The General Nonsense Thread

[DreamOakTree]

It’s just suddenly struck me that the guys on here who I always thought were intellectuals with a great insight into what’s going on at Cappielow, are perhaps just good at putting paragraphs together and making sure their spelling and grammar are immaculate.
Perhaps they have degrees in subjects such as philosophy or psychology, where their exam results are based on how they express their opinions, rather than actually having to deliver tangible results, Just a thought……….

[Alibi]

7 hours ago, DreamOakTree said:

It’s just suddenly struck me that the guys on here who I always thought were intellectuals with a great insight into what’s going on at Cappielow, are perhaps just good at putting paragraphs together and making sure their spelling and grammar are immaculate.
Perhaps they have degrees in subjects such as philosophy or psychology, where their exam results are based on how they express their opinions, rather than actually having to deliver tangible results, Just a thought……….

Look, I don’t have a dog in this fight but can you just stop clogging up this forum with self-indulgent psychobabble. You’re entitled to your opinion of course, but frankly it’s getting beyond boring. Stop digging.

For the record, my degree is in civil engineering, although I did do a year of psychology at one point in my first degree course (mainly because it was 95% female students and I was about 19 at the time ).

[TAFKAC]

46 minutes ago, Alibi said:

Look, I don’t have a dog in this fight but can you just stop clogging up this forum with self-indulgent psychobabble. You’re entitled to your opinion of course, but frankly it’s getting beyond boring. Stop digging.

For the record, my degree is in civil engineering, although I did do a year of psychology at one point in my first degree course (mainly because it was 95% female students and I was about 19 at the time ).

I wouldn't worry, Alibi.  I've been reading your comments since the Topica days, and I don't think he's accusing you of being an intellectual.    

Best just to ignore him and accept that he appears to be using this as some form of therapy.

[TopCat]

Can you mute users on here? 

[so72]

11 hours ago, DreamOakTree said:

Give me some time to search back over them then, for the sake of clarity. 
As I said though, Dougie has resolved that (only) missing part of his tick list of managerial attributes. And please don’t be misled that he’s only made that u-turn for the benefit of Morton. He’ll have been aware that he’s been overlooked for several managerial vacancies and will have realised that no club would have touched him with a barge pole if he didn’t have a positive attitude towards youth development, let alone being completely against the idea. Now that he’s added that attribute to his CV, watch his name start to appear on managerial short lists going forward.

I don't want to give oxygen to this discussion but Imrie was pretty sound when I played for Hamilton as a teenager. Weren't many clubs more invested in their youth academy than Hamilton at that point. He knows how to develop young players and thats unsurprising given how he was as a player. 

[Pedrodelawasp]

11 hours ago, DreamOakTree said:

It’s just suddenly struck me that the guys on here who I always thought were intellectuals with a great insight into what’s going on at Cappielow, are perhaps just good at putting paragraphs together and making sure their spelling and grammar are immaculate.
Perhaps they have degrees in subjects such as philosophy or psychology, where their exam results are based on how they express their opinions, rather than actually having to deliver tangible results, Just a thought……….

This is some bizarre, off-topic condescension.

The excessive ellipses following "thought" may also betray the lack of such going in to this post.

[SassenachTon]

16 hours ago, DreamOakTree said:

 he’s been overlooked for several managerial vacancies

Which ones exactly?

[Mr.Blue]

22 hours ago, Toby said:

“No other club would take the wee rancid chino-clad self-obsessed piece of shit, so we need to sack the wee pathetic fucker to rid the club of his development player hater, old pals’ lover mentality, before it’s too late. Although IMO it’s already too late as the wee addictive rat has already royally fucked up our club structure,and from where I’m looking, has taken great relish from doing so. Get to fuck ya wee puny imposter!”

Who's rant was that?

Absolute scum and a vile attack on the best manager we've had in many years.

[Cet Homme Charmant]

45 minutes ago, SassenachTon said:

Which ones exactly?

Don't encourage him FFS

[Cappiecat 1.2]

31 minutes ago, Mr.Blue said:

Who's rant was that?

Absolute scum and a vile attack on the best manager we've had in many years.

The guy who's anecDOTes are nothing more than delusions brought on by his DOTage.

It's rumoured he once nutmegged Johan  Cruyff.

[TRVMP]

7 hours ago, TopCat said:

Can you mute users on here? 

Yep, in your user settings. 

[capitanus]

19 hours ago, DreamOakTree said:

It’s just suddenly struck me that the guys on here who I always thought were intellectuals with a great insight into what’s going on at Cappielow, are perhaps just good at putting paragraphs together and making sure their spelling and grammar are immaculate.
Perhaps they have degrees in subjects such as philosophy or psychology, where their exam results are based on how they express their opinions, rather than actually having to deliver tangible results, Just a thought……….

lol wut

[HamCam]

1 hour ago, capitanus said:

lol wut

Don't worry Cap, I am pretty sure he was not referring to you or me as intellectuals.

[Cet Homme Charmant]

4 hours ago, HamCam said:

Don't worry Cap, I am pretty sure he was not referring to you or me as intellectuals.

Don't be so hard on yourself. In my head I've have mentally assigned a Dad's Army character to all the main contributors of this esteemed forum, and you're Captain Mainwaring. 

[capitanus]

Same time, next week then folks?

[SassenachTon]

10 hours ago, Cet Homme Charmant said:

In my head I've have mentally assigned a Dad's Army character to all the main contributors of this esteemed forum, and you're Captain Mainwaring. 

Can I be the Luftwaffe pilot from the episode where they held a bunch of Warmington-on-Sea townsfolk captive in the church please? I'd like to wait for the next DOT outburst so I can tell him "Your name vill also go on ze list".

Would mean a lot. Thanks in advance

[HamCam]

12 hours ago, Cet Homme Charmant said:

Don't be so hard on yourself. In my head I've have mentally assigned a Dad's Army character to all the main contributors of this esteemed forum, and you're Captain Mainwaring. 

In my best Captain Mainwaring voice - You stupid boy.

[DreamOakTree]

Hi Admin, I see I no longer have the reply facilities on the main Cowshed Chat forum. 

Fair enough if that's what you've decided based on my rants, as I probably brought it on myself. However I was searching through previous threads so that I can respond to Toby's request for evidence that there were several posters with similar concerns to myself regarding youth development at Cappielow. I would need to click on "quote" in order to accurately copy the post with the poster's name. Would it be possible to have my access restored temporarily until I complete my response on this thread, and then block my access again on Cowshed Chat?

[DreamOakTree]

FTAO Toby:

The evidence you requested that several posters apart from myself had similar concerns over Dougie's policy towards our academy graduates:

EanieMeany:  Posted September 4, 2022 

It's a structural issue that isn't going to go away as long as Blues is in the team even if another player can cover sufficient ground to mitigate it, so complaining about another player not following instructions when that exists and impacts on the other player’s decisions is somewhat myopic and at the very least it was surely worth giving Lyon one last shot alongside Gillespie and Crawford to see what he could do with real footballers around him before booting him out. If that didn’t work, so be it, but we’re in no position to write off a player that was very justifiably given an extended contract months before.

Whilst there's not much point dwelling too much on Lyon and there's a risk of getting into the "Griffiths could still be a 20 goal a season striker" Celtic Da territory by spending too much time talking about him - it has to be acknowledged there's a bit of a recurring theme with him, although in doing so there's also other factors there such as previous managers being utterly fuckin shite - I think it just seems pretty jarring to be so completely ostracising the player who was absolutely crucial to the initial run of under Imrie that ultimately proved decisive in the end whilst Blues gets to play every minute of every game no matter how bad he is, and then getting rewarded with a new contract especially when Imrie is always talking about repeated errors. I think that's got to be pretty demoralising for the likes of McGrattan and King, even leaving Lyon aside. 

The overwhelming majority of what Imrie's done and is doing has been and excellent and taking the Lyon situation in isolation, I'd be more than willing to trust his judgement being right even if I think it's a shame it's turned out that that way, but when you put in the context of a far, far worse player playing every minute of every game at the expense of others (again, McGrattan has more than earned a go in his place), getting a new contract and even getting the captaincy for a game, it's not quite so clear that it's being handled correctly. If we see Blues starting again on Saturday ahead of King or McGrattan after the comments about repeated errors, it'll be hard not to see it as a rare example of poor management from Imrie and compounding a far from convincing transfer window, and unlikely to do much for the moral of other options. You can't maintain high standards when you keep allowing one and only one player to get away with failing to meet them.

SassenachTon: Posted September 20, 2022

Apart from the insanity of Blues starting every game, the greatest team selection mystery to me is why Lewis Strapp is being used to keep the bench warm. I thought he was arguably our most solid player last season.

DumfriesTon: Posted September 30, 2022

Assuming Lithgow misses out we're going into tomorrow with 1 fit centre back and 1 fit striker. Lyon and Garrity loaned out. Be about 4 players on the bench  Pretty shambolic recruitment and decision making from Imrie in the market this summer. 

RossMcC1874: Posted January 5, 2023

Surprised at McGregor as he is still young and looked quite decent anytime I saw him but again was barely getting any game time thought a loan would be good idea but obviously Imrie knows what he is looking for. Does leave us quite light in terms of bodies but I would imagine we would have some incomings surely. 

                                                                   EanieMeany  Posted January 5, 2023

As for McGregor, obviously we don't know the full story but on the face of it I feel like he's been a wee bit hard done by this season tbh. It'd be quite hard to argue he's not shown enough any time he's got on the pitch to merit getting off the bench ahead of Kabia more often, at the least. Will be interesting to see where he ends up, if anywhere.

Greacen2000, Posted January 5, 2023

Mcgregor is a bit of a strange one for me - definitely a player who I though had a lot of potential every time I’ve seen him play.  He won’t have been earning a huge amount so isn’t exactly freeing up loads of cash to spend on reinforcements.  On the face of it I would have thought loaning him out to get game time at a lower level might have made more sense.

 

Scott: Posted April 8, 2023

https://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/sport/23442707.lewis-strapp-set-leave-morton-12-year-stay/
I’m a bit surprised Imrie has told him he won’t be here next season. I’d have hoped to hold on to Strapp, but can’t grudge him a move. Hope he does well wherever he goes. 

Madton: Posted April 8, 2023

Dougie not wanting him, wtf. 

Scott: Posted April 8, 2023

He’s been told he’s not in Imrie’s plans. Expected him to move on but thought we’d at least try to keep him 

dunning1874: Posted April 8, 2023

It's not been hard to figure out from some public comments that Imrie and Strapp don't get on well off the pitch, and he was always near certain to have better offers this summer anyway so I didn't expect him to stay. Regardless of having no confidence of keeping him though, not even making him an offer is a baffling decision. There is almost no chance of us getting a replacement of the same calibre, and in the unlikely event he doesn't have top flight or English offers then we'll look extremely daft if he ends up at Ayr or something while we have an inferior player at left back. Get an offer on the table and if he doesn't take it then so be it.

: Posted April 8, 2023

This. A player of his calibre …… what ‘plans’ does he not fit into, exactly? Jeez-o.

 

HamCam: Posted April 8, 2023

While I always assumed Strapp was off at the end of the season it is head scratching to hear the decision was effectively made for him. It was not that long ago we were being told a crucial element in the financial viability of the club was through rearing young talent to sell on. Lyon now Strapp look are not going to make the club money, leaving us with McGrattan and King as the next 'projects'. Concerning then to see both players getting less game time especially as they were an integral part of the squad that performed so well up to the beginning of the year. 

GiGi: Posted April 9, 2023

Think it's clear they just don't get on.

vikingTON: Posted April 13, 2023

Waters is a downgrade on Strapp IMO and is not the answer if we have serious ambition to compete in the promotion play-offs. 

Alibi: Posted April 13, 2023

Unless it's a matter of cost control, or Strapp himself is desperate to leave (which impression I don't get from the statements made), why would we want to downgrade?  Based on Strapp's performances over the last few seasons, I think we would find it hard to upgrade.  I don't have any problem with Waters as he seems to have done OK for us, but Strapp is a big loss to us and I am astonished at Dougie's attitude.  I think if Lewis can get a gig that pays significantly more, then yes, he would be daft not to take it, but to just tell him he's not wanted at Morton for footballing reasons seems ridiculous.

 

 

[Cet Homme Charmant]

4 hours ago, SassenachTon said:

Can I be the Luftwaffe pilot from the episode where they held a bunch of Warmington-on-Sea townsfolk captive in the church please? I'd like to wait for the next DOT outburst so I can tell him "Your name vill also go on ze list".

Would mean a lot. Thanks in advance

Sorry, you're already Pike