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I know our game against them at Cappielow’s been moved for the telly anyway, but I’d happily see us playing those fuckers at 7am on a Thursday morning as long as it got right under the skin of that jug-eared little prick Billy Dodds.

You said that we have "seriously regressed" as a club since fan ownership. You can only regress from the previous situation. Compare our situation now (pish) to December 2020 or so (completely alarming, existential crisis and rank rotten on the park as well) and that's simply not true. One arguable backward step would be scrapping the development squad. But in the bigger picture, GMFC is in better hands and with a wider set of partners (see the Dalrada deal) than anything on offer in the late Rae era. That doesn't mean all current board decisions are correct by any means and there should always be critical scrutiny, but to say we've gone significantly backwards only underlines how quickly people seem to have forgotten the absolutely fucking dire state we were in less than two years ago. It's quite possible that we'll tumble down a division. Frankly, it seems merited given our turgid performances for years and our failure to bite the bullet and end this pointless insistence on full-time jobber football. But what really matters is that a setback on the park is unlikely to literally kill the club in the way that it would have done had £2 million of debt been on the table or we had the stadium taken away from under us.

Kabia shouldn't play another minute for the club. A total impostor.

AGM is currently taking place. I took notes for the part I could attend. I arrived five minutes late on the Zoom call and had to drop off at 7:45pm UK time as I have a meeting starting in 15 minutes that I need to print some things for. So these notes are unedited and messy. Highlights are: Four of the five candidates for MCT Board were elected, namely Brian Gillan, Jon Keen, David McCluskey, and Graham McLennan. The unlucky candidate who did not make it was Jim McEleny. All nine of the items proposed for adjusting the MCT Articles of Association passed with huge majorities. There are director introductions and a Q&A still to follow; hopefully someone else is taking notes for those. Here follow my unedited notes. Where things are written in the first person, that is the person named talking, not me.

What an embarrassment. The first touch of every single player is appalling. This is Imrie's team and he's made a rip-roaring cunt of it. Defence and Schwake can't cope with any sort of ball into the box. I suddenly realise why Gillespie has been dithering around in the bottom divisions for years - he's garbage. Blues is a non event. Just doesn't do anything. Grimshaw is arguably worse. Kabia I thought did well in the first 30 minutes running the channels but did fuck all after that. Muirhead was Muirhead. League is split into two already which was to be expected but I didn't expect we would be this bad. 3 outfield players on the bench in October FFS! 5 months to find a striker and he hasn't. Not buying this line that there's nothing out there. That's the whole fucking point of a manager - to go and find someone. We're just not very good.

In what ways exactly? Were you living under a rock back in December 2020, when the club was both circling the drain as a viable business and a total fucking nick on the park at the same time? Today's result is absolutely abject and unacceptable. Heads should start rolling in the dressing room and if that doesn't work then things will naturally progress further. But this gaslighting of the 'good old days' of Golden Casket running the club into the ground through sheer indifference is equally risible.

Its gross negligence that we are sitting here on the 30th of Sept with no real striking options, regardless if he brings in a ringer or two today( looking less likely as the clock ticks by) Should have been sorted weeks, if not months ago.

Don't really get the people saying he's a liability etc. He's never had a red card in his career before this season and two of the three he's had this season have been undeserved. Not sure if it's just a Quitongo thing with some fans, as if some other players had been wrongfully sent off two games in a row you'd think they'd be raging at the officials rather than the player.

I'm not president of the Jai Quitongo fan club, but it clearly wasn't his decisions that cost us today. If he was part of a genuine set of forwards rather than the jokers we fielded today then we'd do well from his contribution. The degree to which we're relying on him to do something in order to create chances is alarming. But that's a Kabia and Muirhead problem - and a petulant red card doesn't change that.

Blaw eh whissul ref

If we fuck this up you better be mailing your severed head to Sinclair street.

What's disappointed me the most this season is how the team have totally changed their approach and style under Dougie. When he came in we were horrible to play against. Pressing all over the pitch, in your face and there was an intensity and drive. It seemed to tail off once we secured our league status and unfortunately it's carried forward into this season. With the personnel we have ( once all available) perhaps its worth considering returning to a 5-3-2. Make us hard to beat again and difficult to play against. That could look like: Schwake Pignatello lithgow O'connor baird strapp Gillespie Crawford grimshaw Quitongo Muirhead The obvious weakness again is the lack of creativity and goals.

No I agree with you. I meant get them back and set us up with the back five again to make us hard to beat. These tactics aren't working with the players we have and no matter what squad members are chosen to play still nothing is going to change in terms of performance. Back five with two guys winning every header and try and shitfest and bully our way to safety seems like the best option at this point, at least until January.

Arbroath went into the summer with more money available to offer players than ever before in their club's history and a manager who is both highly experienced in the transfer window and has snaked hotshot forwards from Livingston on a regular basis in recent years. Go to their thread on P and B and check out their thoughts on not getting a striker this summer. Their tantrums could be copy and pasted with yours right now. If the same issue is affecting (at least) two totally different club/management structures at the same level, then the problem is with the market and not the individual.

Well he wasn't "recently released by Clyde" at all, which rather undermines 'GreenockPics' impressive ITK status within Scottish football.

Quitongo is too often a petulant man-child unwilling or unable to wise up in how he plays, reacts and inter-acts with officials. His disciplinary record this season is dreadful and to blame it all on big bad referees is bordering on OF hysteria. Yes some of his cards have been harsh but Quitongo constantly puts himself in a position unlikely to garner any sympathy with the officials.

Jai hadn’t had a red card until this season and then like buses…

Wonder who's getting sent off in the penalty shoot out.

Quitongo needs to be smarter and stop getting involved in these type of situation where he's being sent off. Getting a reputation now and officials will be watching for him

Schwake's looked much better this half. Quietly confident.

Aye you're tight, he should have told the 5 year old to fuck off.. .

Lol wut He was actually playing right side of the world's most shan attacking trident, as usual. Which is supposedly his most effective position. At no point has he been played as a lone forward this season. And he was a garbage waste of a jersey as usual. I am sick to fucking death of all these pathetic excuses being pulled out for players who are simply not good enough for this level. Muirhead is a no. 9 who has scored 4 Championship goals in four fucking seasons. Giving him a new contract in the summer- and all the justifications for doing so - is precisely why we can't have a proper football team right now. Blues should also have been binned. We deserve everything we get for not being ruthless when it was required.

Embarrassing from start to finish. The invisible man Blues getting 89 minutes to be replaced by a guy who touched the ball more and scored in about 4 minutes he was on the pitch. Get him benched. Muirhead shite. King's worst game of the season. Gillespie was rubbish. Baird was shite. Grimshaw was shite although I'll let him off this time as seems he's not kicked a ball in months. Imrie's got a lot of work to do and he's not short of criticism either. Wrong team selection in the first place, his love for Blues, his baffling decision to let Lyon and Garrity go on loan when you can't even fill a bench. He's got his retained players all wrong giving 2 year deals to Blues and Muirhead, he's signed some guff and he has been unable to get a half decent centre forward in the door for the last 4 months. Next week I'd genuinely get Lithgow up top. Wins every header and at least causes some bother. Better than anything else we've got.

Very happy with that signing. Central midfield is his best position and King was our only cover there but is also currently first choice left back, with Jacobs & Lyon out on loan. McGrattan can obviously play as the most advanced of a three but we had no cover for playing any deeper, so he's surely here to play in midfield. A first choice three of Gillespie, Grimshaw and Crawford is a significant upgrade on where we were a few weeks ago, then we've King, Blues and McGrattan as cover for them. Maybe he will play right back at times but there's no way Pignatiello should be getting dropped.

Welcome aboard Liam, do you have any mates who play up front?

Counterpoint: Dick 'dick' Campbell has just got yet another bee in his bunnet about The Famous and thinks that it's 2004 and we're signing Chris Templeman from his outfit. The last 48 hours couldn't have happened to a more deserving, Sash-singing fud of a 'character' in Scottish football.

Thank fuck for that. That is a massive, massive win. I'd have happily taken a draw before kick off tonight just to stop the rot of the losing run, but that's a terrific result.

The most serious misstep the club made this summer was awarding two year deals to senior players like Baird. Not because of who it is (although I've never rated Baird highly) but because unless there's an elaborate out, we're committing ourselves to the same model next season as well. If one famous definition of insanity is doing the same failed thing over and over again, what is the club doing right now? It is baffling that we either haven't had a serious cost/benefit analysis of our squad structure yet - or if the board has, that we decided to lollop along with the old one for another two years during an economic shitstorm. Punting a development squad is tinkering around the edges when the first team model is not fit for purpose anymore.

What a shitshow. Like probably everyone else on here, I've spent decades getting excited and optimistic about our chances at the beginning of a season (especially given Dougie's track record at the tail-end of last one) - but yet again I'm sat here absolutely scunnered. I really don't know where we go from here. A ritual drowning of Blues and Kabia would be a start. There HAS to be a reason why Imrie keeps playing them. I wonder what it is - because it's certainly not because they're footballers.

I don’t disagree with you, but unfortunately we are going to have to accept it. Referees aren’t going to behave their behaviours no matter how much we complain about it, we’re not Rangers or Celtic. Reputations carry in all walks of life, and you’ve nailed it by saying he’s made a rod for his own back. But only he can change that and turn around his reputation. If it means holding back from going into the net after we’ve got a late goal back, then so be it, and there’ll have to be other ways of adapting his game. You made the point that some players need to play a bit closer to the edge for their team to get the best out of them- I’m afraid Quitongo isn’t playing close to the edge, he’s gone over it, in terms of the parameters referees are setting him, and it’s up to him to change his game so that he is playing closer to the edge, as he’ll get no sympathy from officials. Until he does that, he’ll fast become an expensive bystander rather than the pivotal player that he should be for us this season. I’m also dreading watching us without him but if this carries on, I’d be dead against extending his contract beyond this season as we’l simply not be getting the value out him we should with his ability.

From what I saw, yes.

Last night's game wasn't included in the pass. You had to buy it as a single match. Cost £10. You had to add it to your basket then pay the £10. The code wasn't relevant to last night's game. Might be that the £10 you have been charged was actually for the game but in that case it should have appeared in your "My matches" folder. All assuming you logged on to your account before trying to buy. Maybe best to contact Brendan at the club as he is very good at sorting things out.

From when I was standing it looked like he got brought down and didn't do much. Not sure how he avoids that.

Good win in the circumstances. Decent draw next round please.

Was a straight red. Challenge looked a bit late but unless he put his foot down on the guy, I can't understand it. Very poor refereeing.

Kabia, Blues and Muirhead all dropped.

Apart from the insanity of Blues starting every game, the greatest team selection mystery to me is why Lewis Strapp is being used to keep the bench warm. I thought he was arguably our most solid player last season.

As I've said before, I can't help feeling that the different standards applied to Blues from everybody else is something that' could potentially be a bit of an issue within the squad if things stay as they are. Imrie is always on about mistakes (repeated mistakes in particular), Lyon was ostracised last season after being our key player in the initial run under Imrie, he's been farmed out on loan this season with seemingly little patience or tolerance shown to him, McGrattan has shown more than enough to merit a start but struggles to get on the pitch, Pignatiello gets dropped for a guy who's barely kicked a ball this year, Strapp has been benched for a while now...all of this whilst a player who'd lucky to be a regular in a League 2 side plays almost every single minute of every game regardless of what he does (or doesn't) do, and along the way there's been a few pointed comments at unnamed players. How do you keep demanding high standards from everyone when you're evidently applying different ones to different players? I'm not suggesting this is an issue now, but if results are going against you and the team isn't performing well then there's got to be a danger that players start getting a bit pissed off about it if they're not getting a fair crack of the whip. Same goes up front too, even with limited options we do have King and McGregor to take two of the three positions so there's options to change things and it's obvious changes are needed - if you keep playing players who aren't performing whilst dropping others who are nowhere near as bad at the drop of a hat, you're surely risking making problems for yourself for no reason on top of not getting results.

Regardless of Grimshaw's performance, dropping Pignatiello is an absolutely baffling decision. Despite a poor performance v Ayr he's been one of our best players this season, then gets bombed out for one below par performance while the likes of Kabia, Muirhead and most of all Blues, the latter not having contributed a good 5 minutes all season never mind 90, are undroppable. At least in Kabia and Muirhead's case you can argue about the lack of alternatives, but Blues continuing to get a game while Strapp and Pignatiello sit on the bench with better midfielders than him at full back is completely unjustifiable. Lyon deserved going out on loan for his performances, but the golden boy Blues has been considerably worse than him all season. He should be bottom of the pecking order of the six central midfield options currently available. With the swap of Ayr in the top four and Arbroath having a poor season, you're seeing the likely relegation battlers start to form with the predictable inclusions of us, Hamilton and Cove joining Arbroath. We all know how badly a striker is needed, but Imrie's not getting the best of the players he currently has and needs to stop playing favourites to get us clear of that pack. Get the best defence on the park - it contains Strapp and Pignatiello - and get as many of three impostors named above as possible out of the starting XI. With Quitongo suspended Muirhead is going to have to keep his place, but we can still put out an XI with neither Kabia or Blues.

Totally agree. I was working late but while not booing I certainly wouldn't object to anyone else doing so. Anyway, losing 1-0 I see.

Very good. If people are so fragile that they can’t tolerate opposition to an unelected leach, don’t bother acknowledging it at all.

Thought we had three loanees for some reason.

Hope to use stadium for other events but couldn't go into detail Expects new players this month and 1 very soon apparently( heard that before GR) Emphasised the need for a striker once again. Getting good value on our loan deals, Dumbarton and Annan paying more than average rate. Desire to stay full time. New Operations Manager in place and will take on most tasks a typical CEO undertakes. Decision to patch Dev team was purely down to lack of numbers, wasn't a financial one albeit, we have gained financially from it.

No clue where Kelty Hearts train but using travel as an excuse for not getting to Perth where Arbroath train then rocking up at Kelty 25 mins down the road would be a good laugh. Seems obvious he hoped he’d get a move to ourselves and it’s not gone through as planned, now the dummy’s been spat.

It makes commercial sense. Just because folk can go to both games it doesn’t mean they will. I’d have gone to both if it was on the Saturday, but I won’t pretend that I’m unhappy about the prospect of meeting my mates for a full day pin balling around the pubs before going to what should be a cracking game at Hampden. I suspect many might be in a similar boat but would just can the Morton game, especially with it not being on the season ticket. It’s a great move, and given their locality, I can’t imagine you’ll see too many complaints from the Ayr fans either.

This is your thoughts at 2110 on a Saturday night? I'd be checking your hard drive.

I don't see anything unfortunate in not paying real, actual money - just before an economic firestorm - for an Arbroath player who'll be 31 in January. That would be the height of stupidity (post the GC chucking money at Tony Wallace years). Let Dick 'dick' Campbell try and sort out the mess of their FM-esque transfer window.