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Of course we'll never know the details, but most job offers have an acceptance deadline, so rather than chucking his toys out the pram it's also quite possible that he had no other option

I don't think that the issue with McAvoy is lack of communication, but the fact that it was suggested that he ran out of patience waiting on an offer from us to be approved. If we had made an offer and he went to Carlisle anyway because their offer was better, I don't think there would be any complaints. But if we have lost out because of the dithering of those who had to rubber stamp the offer, then that's not OK.

If true, you'd like to think that's the final straw for the clowns in the boardroom. But more likely, they'll just brass-neck it out like every other fuck up.

Aye, that's pish poor right enough. Mark and Andy both contributed far more to the club that Dale did, and deserve far more respect, thanks and acknowledgement than him. It would seem that absolutely nothing has been learned from the fiasco of the last couple of months, and that's not just disappointing, it's downright frustrating. Sad to say, but I have zero respect or trust for our chairman and board.

For some inexplicable reason, he wasn't popular with a section of our support. One of my earliest memories of being taken to Cappielow by my big brother (Tiger, RIP) when I'd be about 10, was him getting booed by some when his name was announced over the tannoy. I have no idea why, because even at that very tender age, I could see he was a class above most players on the pitch.

Fuck Scott Burns, it's only confirmed when John369 says it is

I stand corrected! Not too old to admit when I'm wrong, although it's an extremely rare event

Normally Tuesday night fixtures are only postponed games. I don't think they're ever scheduled?

Yeah I know, and I'm sure there must be a reason for that, but I just can't think what it can be. Especially when I assume it will come out eventually when the annual accounts are filed.

Good luck to the lad. Would be very interesting to know how much we got for him, I don't quite know why they need to keep that a secret.

Depends where it is in the Middle East. The chances that a team from one of the (relatively) major leagues in the region will be scouting an injury prone mid-table Scottish Championship keeper after one moderately successful season is pretty low, IMO.

The lack of information and communication on the above suggests absolutely nothing has been learned from the fiasco of the last couple of months. It's really pish poor and quite worrying.

MODS!!!!!

They'd better get cracking on then, if it's going to be completed before the start of the new season

I have to be honest and say that recent events have made me have serious doubts about the long-term viability of fan ownership for a club of our size, as IMO the recent clusterfuck has shown that many if not all of the members of both boards are quite simply not up to the job. I hope after we get past this mess that those fitting that description have the self-awareness and humility to admit that to themselves and step aside. But unless there are more able people ready and willing to step in to replace them, that in itself wouldn't necessarily make things any better. I'm certainly not writing off MCT and the concept of fan-ownership completely, it's also possible that we'll come through this with lessons learned all round and stronger as a result of it. Let's hope so.

I can understand kids being interested in it, but if a grown adult really gives a fuck about what the strips look like then then they really need to have a word with themselves

Haha, belter!

It must surely be 100% clear now to everyone that the current members of both the MCT and GMFC boards are not fit for purpose and both need to be completely purged. The bitterness, personal vendettas, and downright incompetence is dragging us down. It may well be that some board members are genuine well-meaning fans who're trying their best, but if there are any they're clearly outnumbered and/or way out of their depth. For the first time since MCT took over I have serious doubts about the viability of fan-ownership for a club of our size. I'm no longer convinced we have the depth of expertise, experience and knowledge to make it work.

Genuinely shocked to hear that dreadful news. He was for sure one of the good guys on here. My condolences to all his family and friends.

I think it would be naive to believe the sponsor's intentions as as entirely altruistic as they're claiming in the statements. Personally, I take these claims with a pinch of salt. So I do think there is a real possibility that they'll walk away if there is a no vote. Of course it's equally possible they won't, but it's a certainly risk. Everyone has to make their own minds up if it's a risk worth taking to get rid of the current incumbents once and for all. It may set us back in the short term, but in reality it would just put is back to the same situation we were when MCT first took over, albeit with confidence in them somewhat dented. Full disclosure, I'm not a MCT member, but I don't envy those having to make the choice.

A no vote would in effect be a vote of no confidence in both boards, and the positions of the board members and club chairman would surely therefore be completely untenable. That's a real dilemma for those who've lost all confidence in the competency of the boards and the chairman because of the ongoing farce, but who at the same don't want to risk losing the major financial support of our main sponsor. It's a real Hobson's choice.

Indeed, he has shown a lot of resilience and overcame several adversities in the past 3-and-a-half years. But I think the current shitestorm and losing Andy to boot will be his biggest challenge to date. If he can get us through this and keep us in the Championship, it'll be yet another impressive accomplishment. All assuming he stays of course.

No one can grudge Dougie's chance at moving on to another team with a bigger budget, even if it is plucky wee Partick. And if he does go I'm sure he'll do so with the gratitude and best wishes from the vast majority of Ton fans for everything he's done in the last 3-and-a-half years. I'm just a bit worried if he doesn't get it that might negatively impact his enthusiasm and motivation in carrying on with us, also taking account Andy's abrupt departure and the current uncertainties caused by the ongoing bin-fire. Hopefully his professionalism will not let any of that have a negative influence on him, but you'd have to be concerned.

Fair points, and in the main I agree with all of them. But even getting these basic structural changes in place will require people with the willingness and wherewithal to step up. I really hope there are such people standing in the wings, because if there aren't, I really can't see where any sort of meaningful change will come from.

That's obvious, but unless there are more willing and able replacements ready to step-in, it'll just be like rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic