vikingTON Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 Waters is a downgrade on Strapp IMO and is not the answer if we have serious ambition to compete in the promotion play-offs. The site is supposed to be a place for the extended 'family' of Morton supporters - having an affinity with people that you don't know, because you share a love of your local football club. It's not supposed to be about point scoring and showing how 'clever' or 'funny' you are, or just being downright rude and offensive to people you don't know, because you can get away with it. Unfortunately, it seems the classic case of people who have little standing/presence in real life, use this forum as a way of making themselves feel as if they are something. It's sad, and I've said that before.. So, having been on Morton forums for about 15 years I guess, I've had enough... well done t*ssers, another Morton supporter driven away. You can all feel happy at how 'clever' you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
so72 Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 If Hamilton was available, I'd want him back before Schwake or signing Fulton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alibi Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 1 hour ago, vikingTON said: Waters is a downgrade on Strapp IMO and is not the answer if we have serious ambition to compete in the promotion play-offs. Unless it's a matter of cost control, or Strapp himself is desperate to leave (which impression I don't get from the statements made), why would we want to downgrade? Based on Strapp's performances over the last few seasons, I think we would find it hard to upgrade. I don't have any problem with Waters as he seems to have done OK for us, but Strapp is a big loss to us and I am astonished at Dougie's attitude. I think if Lewis can get a gig that pays significantly more, then yes, he would be daft not to take it, but to just tell him he's not wanted at Morton for footballing reasons seems ridiculous. Someone mentioned Tumilty further up this thread - I notice he was at left back on Tuesday. I wouldn't be averse to having him back if he can play LB and he certainly seemed to like pushing forward. I know many don't have any time for him due IIRC to remarks he made when he left, but it's a different Morton now with proper management. worth considering IMHO if Strapp doesn't end up staying. "Any nation given the opportunity to regain its national sovereignty and which then rejects it is so far beneath contempt that it is hard to put words to it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 26 minutes ago, Alibi said: Unless it's a matter of cost control, or Strapp himself is desperate to leave (which impression I don't get from the statements made), why would we want to downgrade? Based on Strapp's performances over the last few seasons, I think we would find it hard to upgrade. I don't have any problem with Waters as he seems to have done OK for us, but Strapp is a big loss to us and I am astonished at Dougie's attitude. I think if Lewis can get a gig that pays significantly more, then yes, he would be daft not to take it, but to just tell him he's not wanted at Morton for footballing reasons seems ridiculous. Someone mentioned Tumilty further up this thread - I notice he was at left back on Tuesday. I wouldn't be averse to having him back if he can play LB and he certainly seemed to like pushing forward. I know many don't have any time for him due IIRC to remarks he made when he left, but it's a different Morton now with proper management. worth considering IMHO if Strapp doesn't end up staying. Tumilty is a weapon of a boy and his comments about the club after leaving shouldn't be forgotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hej Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 Tumiilty is A) shite, B ) a fud, and C) looked like am overweight puffing mess the othernight 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamOakTree Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 I find it a bit stomach churning that Dougie would tell our captain and possibly best player that he’s got no future at Morton, while he’s trying to recover from a long term injury. Imrie has a very good ratio in improving players who were unpopular with the fans, plus his new signings. I wonder if he has something against popular home grown players such as Strapp, McGrattan, McGregor, Lyon etc. If so I’m not sure why this would be the case. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irnbru Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 29 minutes ago, DreamOakTree said: I find it a bit stomach churning that Dougie would tell our captain and possibly best player that he’s got no future at Morton, while he’s trying to recover from a long term injury. Imrie has a very good ratio in improving players who were unpopular with the fans, plus his new signings. I wonder if he has something against popular home grown players such as Strapp, McGrattan, McGregor, Lyon etc. If so I’m not sure why this would be the case. Don't think Strapp was the captain, McGregor probably isn't good enough and more than one manager hasn't fancied Lyon in the team which suggests he's not doing what's asked of him. McGratten is a strange one but I think it's safe to say that's in isolation as Strapp mostly got a game when fit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamOakTree Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 Despite all that, it looks a good squad for next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Busby's Moustache Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 On 4/13/2023 at 10:27 AM, Alibi said: Someone mentioned Tumilty further up this thread - I notice he was at left back on Tuesday. I wouldn't be averse to having him back if he can play LB and he certainly seemed to like pushing forward. I know many don't have any time for him due IIRC to remarks he made when he left, but it's a different Morton now with proper management. worth considering IMHO if Strapp doesn't end up staying. Be careful what you wish for. I mentioned this a good while back and got my nuts shot off for having the temerity to even suggest such a thing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Toby Posted April 15, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 15, 2023 5 hours ago, Drew Busby's Moustache said: Be careful what you wish for. I mentioned this a good while back and got my nuts shot off for having the temerity to even suggest such a thing. If my memory serves me correctly, you suggested bringing him in in January-a point when we had the best right back in the division. Grimshaw’s unlikely to be here next season, and at the point you suggested bringing in Tumilty, had already extended his stay until the end of this season, so the circumstances of your suggestion and Alibi’s vary greatly. Don’t let silly things like that get in the way of your whining about being rightly shut down for a foolish suggestion, though. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCat Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 It's all guesswork but I think there's a more straightforward scenario at play for Strapp. i.e. he's initially refused to sign a deal in the hope of weighing up offers over the summer, Imrie hasn't been keen on playing that game and has taken the deal off the table. Also, McGrattan has made about 30 appearances for us this season (noted he probably should have had more starts) and Reghan Tumilty is a bombscare. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_M Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 10 hours ago, Drew Busby's Moustache said: Be careful what you wish for. I mentioned this a good while back and got my nuts shot off for having the temerity to even suggest such a thing. You moronically insinuated we should have waited and signed Tumilty - a right back - instead of Waters - a left back - to replace Strapp - a left back. Any shooting down was completely justified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Toby Posted April 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2023 9 hours ago, TopCat said: It's all guesswork but I think there's a more straightforward scenario at play for Strapp. i.e. he's initially refused to sign a deal in the hope of weighing up offers over the summer, Imrie hasn't been keen on playing that game and has taken the deal off the table. Also, McGrattan has made about 30 appearances for us this season (noted he probably should have had more starts) and Reghan Tumilty is a bombscare. Fair enough to say McGrattan has played a lot of games, but yesterday was the first full ninety I remember him playing in a long time, perhaps since the League Cup group stages when we were at the bare bones, without checking. It might be more reflective of how he’s been used to see the minutes he’s played compared to others. I don’t accept that Tumilty is a “bombscare” at all, though. He’s not as good as Grimshaw, but we’re not going to get an upgrade on him. Tumilty’s time at Morton was made difficult by the club being an absolute shit-show at the time. He had three managers in two years- one of whom fucked off when those tramps waved 30 pieces of silver under his nose and two of them were abysmal. Hopkin refusing to utilise him and send him out on loan to Dumbarton can hardly be considered a failing on Tumilty’s part. He went on to have what appeared a relatively successful spell at Raith, and whilst his comments about Scottish football in general were ill-judged, they shouldn’t define him as a player. As was demonstrated at Cappielow the other night though, he certainly isn’t a left back! On another note, in light of his Open Goal interview and Kelty’s money-man apparently pulling the plug, I can see Tam O’Ware back here next season. It sounded like he was trying to soften the ill-feeling amongst the support in that interview, and having just turned 30, Morton might be his last go at full-time football. Not terribly keen on that idea, I feel we’ve got two better centre backs anyway. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Blue Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 Totally agree about Tumilty. He's a good player at this level and u wouldn't be surprised if Dougie is interested. O'Ware I'd be surprised at though. Haven't really heard much about him over the past few years but I'm happy to back Dougie and his judgement. There's a storm on the horizon And for that I can't see the sun For I'll keep a waiting on the pavement For the ice cream van to come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irnbru Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Mr.Blue said: Totally agree about Tumilty. He's a good player at this level and u wouldn't be surprised if Dougie is interested. O'Ware I'd be surprised at though. Haven't really heard much about him over the past few years but I'm happy to back Dougie and his judgement. Aye, Tumilty is good going forward and decent enough defending so wouldn't be against him. O'Ware is an interesting one. Always thought he was really good if there was someone next to him talking him through the game but maybe with experience he's a bit better in that respect. Would take Baird and O'Connor over him but wouldn't be against him as a squad player. Maybe Broadfoot might be considered again to give a bit of experience and cover at CB and RB (wouldn't be my choice but he was OK in this league the last couple of years and would be within our budget so assume he'd be on the radar). Edited April 16, 2023 by irnbru Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Busby's Moustache Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 15 hours ago, Toby said: If my memory serves me correctly, you suggested bringing him in in January-a point when we had the best right back in the division. Grimshaw’s unlikely to be here next season, and at the point you suggested bringing in Tumilty, had already extended his stay until the end of this season, so the circumstances of your suggestion and Alibi’s vary greatly. Don’t let silly things like that get in the way of your whining about being rightly shut down for a foolish suggestion, though. ... and dont let the fact you're a pedantic prick get in the way of you whining like a pedantic prick. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Busby's Moustache Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 11 hours ago, Jamie_M said: You moronically insinuated we should have waited and signed Tumilty - a right back - instead of Waters - a left back - to replace Strapp - a left back. Any shooting down was completely justified. Another pedant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 36 minutes ago, Drew Busby's Moustache said: ... and dont let the fact you're a pedantic prick get in the way of you whining like a pedantic prick. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
so72 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 I wonder if the St Johnstone job would tempt Dougie. If they have any sense, they'd be looking at him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamOakTree Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 3 hours ago, so72 said: I wonder if the St Johnstone job would tempt Dougie. If they have any sense, they'd be looking at him. That doesn’t seem a good fit to me, the Saintee’s always seemed too sensible and non-controversial but have maybe moved away from that by sacking a manager who won 3 trophies in two seasons. If they want the opposite of Callum then Dougie’s as close to that as anyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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