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  1. 1. What do you think should happen to Johansson?

    • Sacked before the end of the season
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    • Sacked at the end of the current season
      23
    • Allowed to see out his contract until the end of next season
      26
    • Given an extended contract beyond his current deal
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  2. 2. What do you think will happen to Johansson?

    • Sacked before the end of the season
      4
    • Sacked at the end of the current season
      17
    • Allowed to see out his contract until the end of next season
      59
    • Given an extended contract beyond his current deal
      3

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EanieMeany

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You're right it's really basic, so basic that if our players need to actually be instructed by the manager to be in a position to support a team mate and look for a pass then surely they have no place on a professional football team!! 

I've only managed to see the recent Ross County game on TV so I'm in no position to say either way if JJ should be binned or not but from what you've just said it sounds like the players are a much bigger problem here!

 

That's definitely not the case. Positional play, movement off the ball etc is at the absolute core of how a team plays, if players could just go out and do it themselves you wouldn't need a manager.

 

Look at the likes of Tata Martino at Barcelona, a manager so far out of his depth that at he managed even some of the best players in the world were dragged down a few levels (and was made to look less bad by Messi scoring about 400 goals in a season): it's a fact of football that if there's a really bad manager, nothing works. You keep hearing the same "it's the players" argument every time there's a bad manager, and it's very, very rarely true. It completely and utterly ignores the entire role of a manager.

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TONofmemories

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Largely avoided this debate and i genuinely wanted it to work out for him. He seems a nice bloke and all, but being a nice bloke doesnt win football matches or the hearts of the supporters. From what i've seen, he's not up to the job at hand. He has failed to stamp the team with any identity of his own and in actual fact we've regressed massively under him. 

 

Punt him before it's too late. 

TIME FOR CHANGE!

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That's definitely not the case. Positional play, movement off the ball etc is at the absolute core of how a team plays, if players could just go out and do it themselves you wouldn't need a manager.

 

Look at the likes of Tata Martino at Barcelona, a manager so far out of his depth that at he managed even some of the best players in the world were dragged down a few levels (and was made to look less bad by Messi scoring about 400 goals in a season): it's a fact of football that if there's a really bad manager, nothing works. You keep hearing the same "it's the players" argument every time there's a bad manager, and it's very, very rarely true. It completely and utterly ignores the entire role of a manager.

 

There is also the point that each off-the-ball movement has an opportunity cost. To give a ludicrously extreme example, a 6'5" center back could storm up the pitch every time a winger is 45 yards from the touchline, so that he's ready to receive a cross and try to head a goal. But if he does this, and the full-back tackles the winger, the center back's team is now extremely vulnerable to a counter-attack. Obviously this is a very unlikely event (outside chasing a goal in the dying minutes) but to a much lesser extent it's true all over the park.

 

Now, imagine a team that's been told they're absolutely rubbish and have to sit back against Alloa. Are you going to see our players - even if they're able - draw someone out of position and forge an attacking run? No, probably not, they'll play to instruction if they want to keep their place in the team.

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There is also the point that each off-the-ball movement has an opportunity cost. To give a ludicrously extreme example, a 6'5" center back could storm up the pitch every time a winger is 45 yards from the touchline, so that he's ready to receive a cross and try to head a goal. But if he does this, and the full-back tackles the winger, the center back's team is now extremely vulnerable to a counter-attack. Obviously this is a very unlikely event (outside chasing a goal in the dying minutes) but to a much lesser extent it's true all over the park.

 

Now, imagine a team that's been told they're absolutely rubbish and have to sit back against Alloa. Are you going to see our players - even if they're able - draw someone out of position and forge an attacking run? No, probably not, they'll play to instruction if they want to keep their place in the team.

 

 

Case in point would be Iredale on Saturday who looked scared to leave his own half at times, and then it transpires from the manager's  interview that JJ thinks Iredale is a wingback and not a fullback, so now you have a player who has shown he's more than capable of being an attacking fullback scared to come forward when he's part of a back four under Johansson, which yet again is clearly another instruction from him based on completely unfounded fear again.

Good people will do good things, bad people will do bad things, but only with religion do good people do bad things!

 

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irnbru

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Case in point would be Iredale on Saturday who looked scared to leave his own half at times, and then it transpires from the manager's interview that JJ thinks Iredale is a wingback and not a fullback, so now you have a player who has shown he's more than capable of being an attacking fullback scared to come forward when he's part of a back four under Johansson, which yet again is clearly another instruction from him based on completely unfounded fear again.

I said the same about Dykes. He looked to get forward a few times then stopped. It was like he hesitated based on instruction rather than being what he wanted to do.

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