Greacen2000 Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 13 minutes ago, DreamOakTree said: I’m not sure we’re being patient and playing a waiting game if we’re signing the likes of Broadfoot and Boyd now, which must in some way restrict who we could afford later. All I’m saying is that if we had blown our full budget before the start of last season, we wouldn’t have been able to bring in guys like Crawford, Grimshaw & eventually Oakley - all of whom undoubtedly strengthened us. That being said, clearly we need to at least have enough of a squad signed to field a team & subs at the start of the season so at this stage I’m ok with him bringing in guys who will are good enough to be squad players but keeping some budget aside so that if/when the opportunity arises we can make a couple of quality additions (for example last season we started with Pignatello as first choice RB) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamOakTree Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 20 minutes ago, Greacen2000 said: All I’m saying is that if we had blown our full budget before the start of last season, we wouldn’t have been able to bring in guys like Crawford, Grimshaw & eventually Oakley - all of whom undoubtedly strengthened us. That being said, clearly we need to at least have enough of a squad signed to field a team & subs at the start of the season so at this stage I’m ok with him bringing in guys who will are good enough to be squad players but keeping some budget aside so that if/when the opportunity arises we can make a couple of quality additions (for example last season we started with Pignatello as first choice RB) Okay fair comment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HamCam Posted July 11, 2023 Author Share Posted July 11, 2023 (edited) Not seen much of the lad but cannot help but feel disappointed as he offered the one bit of class on Saturday to follow up his Alloa cameo. When you think of the players we already have in midfield Deane appeared to offer something different and no way would he have been an expensive signing. Last season we were never that creative hence struggled to break down teams so you just have to hope Dougie has an upgrade in mind. Edited July 11, 2023 by HamCam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
so72 Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, Boogs49 said: Going to forgo the almost mandatory 'in Dougie we trust' and say that I think this is a poor decision. Hopefully there are better options to come in but he is a great age and looked really talented whilst being different to what we have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Blue Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 1 minute ago, HamCam said: Not seen much of the lad but cannot help but feel disappointed as he offered the one bit of class on Saturday to follow up his Alloa cameo. When you think of the players we already have in midfield Deane appeared to offer something different and no way would he have been an expensive signing. Last season we were never that creative hence struggled to break down teams so you just have to hope Dougie has an upgrade in mind. Wondering if the 2 trialists Dougie has in this week has influenced this decision? The boy is a player but would he challenge blues, Gillespie and Crawford for a starting slot? I'm not sure. There's a storm on the horizon And for that I can't see the sun For I'll keep a waiting on the pavement For the ice cream van to come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossMcC1874 Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 Quite surprised we wouldn't even give him a short term deal until January or something to see how he gets on. There is clearly talent there and I can't imagine he would be on a massive wage being so young there is good competition in midfield but felt he could have added somrthing different. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cet Homme Charmant Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 I thought he'd done enough on Saturday to merit an offer, but Dougie obviously saw him every day in training and thinks we can do better. Hope he gets another offer soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamCam Posted July 11, 2023 Author Share Posted July 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Mr.Blue said: Wondering if the 2 trialists Dougie has in this week has influenced this decision? The boy is a player but would he challenge blues, Gillespie and Crawford for a starting slot? I'm not sure. I just thought he was more of a passing footballer/baller than what we currently have. If we are looking to break down a team or chase a game Deane looked like a good option while Blues, Gillespie and Crawford are grafters. Appears size and the boys lack of Championship experience counted against him. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Blue Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, HamCam said: I just thought he was more of a passing footballer/baller than what we currently have. If we are looking to break down a team or chase a game Deane looked like a good option while Blues, Gillespie and Crawford are grafters. Appears size and the boys lack of Championship experience counted against him. He does offer something different. Very much in the tidser mould. Perhaps Dougie wants another hardworking midfielder in rather than a ball playing midfielder although I do think Deane would have been a good alternative to Gillespie who he's very similar to but more mobile. There's a storm on the horizon And for that I can't see the sun For I'll keep a waiting on the pavement For the ice cream van to come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greacen2000 Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 I was impressed in the games that I watched him play in. Assuming he would have been available on development squad level wages then this seems like a strange decision. If he was looking for more then I can understand Dougie wanting to save the money and look elsewhere. Good as he looked, the lads only 18 and realistically wouldn’t be a regular starter so got to value him based on his place in our overall squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChampTon Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 Think we've missed one here. A young guy who you could give a years contract with an option to extend it for another year incase he turns into the next Kevin De Bruyne. A player who may not be physically imposing or do loads of running but offers that creative spark we miss from our current midfield. Personally thought Gillespie was well off the mark on Saturday (and furthermore, since returning to the side mid season). Especially when it seemed Blues maybe had around 10 touches over the 90. With Blues I understand people see something in him, and so do management clearly. What that actually is, I have no idea. One thing I do rate about Blues is his forward movement, getting into the box late. It's a shame his finishing isn't great though. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONofmemories Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 Starts on the bench for East Kibride tonight. TIME FOR CHANGE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Busby's Moustache Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 5 hours ago, HamCam said: Not seen much of the lad but cannot help but feel disappointed as he offered the one bit of class on Saturday to follow up his Alloa cameo. When you think of the players we already have in midfield Deane appeared to offer something different and no way would he have been an expensive signing. Last season we were never that creative hence struggled to break down teams so you just have to hope Dougie has an upgrade in mind. I agree and was looking for news today we had signed him. Dougie has obviously (IMHO) come to the decision he's too lightweight for this league.I dont believe for a second he doesnt see and realise the lads ability...but there we are. I would love to ask Dougie..."Would you sign Billy Gilmour?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChampTon Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 7 minutes ago, Drew Busby's Moustache said: I agree and was looking for news today we had signed him. Dougie has obviously (IMHO) come to the decision he's too lightweight for this league.I dont believe for a second he doesnt see and realise the lads ability...but there we are. I would love to ask Dougie..."Would you sign Billy Gilmour?" Dougie ain't much taller than young Frankie, and he had an alright career. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Busby's Moustache Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 6 hours ago, Mr.Blue said: Wondering if the 2 trialists Dougie has in this week has influenced this decision? The boy is a player but would he challenge blues, Gillespie and Crawford for a starting slot? I'm not sure. Impressed by trialists in this week or not. He saw Deane on Saturday. In my book (okay..I know he's lightweight) he deserves a season here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Busby's Moustache Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 5 hours ago, ChampTon said: Think we've missed one here. A young guy who you could give a years contract with an option to extend it for another year incase he turns into the next Kevin De Bruyne. A player who may not be physically imposing or do loads of running but offers that creative spark we miss from our current midfield. Personally thought Gillespie was well off the mark on Saturday (and furthermore, since returning to the side mid season). Especially when it seemed Blues maybe had around 10 touches over the 90. With Blues I understand people see something in him, and so do management clearly. What that actually is, I have no idea. One thing I do rate about Blues is his forward movement, getting into the box late. It's a shame his finishing isn't great though. I know......its got all the hallmarks of a " Decca knocks back The Beatles" story. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Busby's Moustache Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 5 hours ago, ChampTon said: Think we've missed one here. A young guy who you could give a years contract with an option to extend it for another year incase he turns into the next Kevin De Bruyne. A player who may not be physically imposing or do loads of running but offers that creative spark we miss from our current midfield. Personally thought Gillespie was well off the mark on Saturday (and furthermore, since returning to the side mid season). Especially when it seemed Blues maybe had around 10 touches over the 90. With Blues I understand people see something in him, and so do management clearly. What that actually is, I have no idea. One thing I do rate about Blues is his forward movement, getting into the box late. It's a shame his finishing isn't great though. How long do we have to wait for Blues to perform like Frankie Deane! I'm seriously bothered about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Busby's Moustache Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 6 hours ago, Boogs49 said: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyrshireTon Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 I'll hazard a guess that the Tik-tok-er guy isn't getting signed either. McGhee needs some support, there's no-one backing him up. Hayes playing it forward, Bell being forced to do it all alone, now forward from Marr, here's Ritchie, still Andy Ritchie, look at the control... That is a marvellous goal from Andy Ritchie. Twenty minutes on the clock and Morton's supporters come alive. A goal which epitomises the control, the arrogance, the cheek of Andy Ritchie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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