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Very sad news indeed. When we almost won back to back promotions in 94-96, at the time his coaching was given a lot of the credit for our success in those seasons he was here as Mcgraws assistant. When he returned as manager a few years later it was a popular appointment, with many (myself included) hoping he would be able to recapture some of that form. Sadly it didn't work out - albeit this was during some of the darkest days of the club and probably nobody could have done any better under the circumstances. He had a brilliant career as a player and will rightly be remembered as a Liverpool legend. Apparently he had been suffering from dementia which is a horrible way to lose someone - thoughts are with his family & friends Former Hibs, Liverpool & Scotland midfielder Peter Cormack dies - BBC Sport

I assumed he was younger when I saw the announcement and was a bit surprised that he is 24 as I've never heard of him. Looking at his career stats & bio on the Motherwell site seems to tell a story of "highly rated youngster who hasn't fulfilled their early career potential" which would explain why he ended up at Motherwell and subsequently on loan at us. It also fits fit the profile of a Dougie type project. For him to have made that many appearances as a teenager and then win a move to the Premier League there surely must be a player in there? Could be a really good move for both clubs if it works out, with us getting a season with a player whose ability would usually see them playing above our level, & Motherwell getting back a player who has found a bit of form. Dougies reputation of helping turn around the careers of guys like Crawford, Muirhead & Oakley (and to a lesser extent Miller) can only be a good thing for the club if it helps us get deals like this over the line. Overall I am feeling cautiously optimistic about this one

Been saying for weeks that Gozie is the sort of player that could transform us into a pretty decent team, but from his wiki it looks like he has signed for another team in Saudi. Looking through our of contract players it looks like the following are available and could possibly fit the bill Tomi Adeloye - good scoring record in the championship from his time at partick. Not sure how realistic it would be but probably the best option out of the ones I’ve named here Cillian Sheridan - seemed to do well at qp last season but his age would be a concern Alex Jakubiak - always looked a handful when I’ve seen him play, but his scoring record isn’t exactly prolific and it seems like he has always struggled for consistency and never really fulfilled his potential. Could potentially be an Imrie style project (albeit we really need someone who can hit the ground running to get us out of our current predicament) Gabby Mcgill - haven’t seen much of him play but he had a great scoring record in league 1 with airdrie. Not so much in the championship and he ended up getting released so not sure about how viable this would be. Beyond that I guess the best we can hope for is a loan deal (which would likely mean we would be getting a young & unproven player)

Club Statement | 19/09/24 - Greenock Morton FC (gmfc.net) you got 3 out of 4

Agreed. At a bare minimum we need a statement acknowledging/ addressing what's happened & announcing we have suspended the player pending investigation etc. This needs to happen asap as now that the cat is out the bag, very hour that passes without an official statement from the club is damaging to us. We cannot change what has happened, but we can at least do everything in our power to manage it in a way that limits damage to the club

yeah you are right - "is the player involved in any organised crime activities such as drug smuggling?" should be one of the basic vetting questions. Had we bothered to ask, I am sure one of his former employers would have informed us "yeah he (allegedly )does a bit of muling on the side but its cool as he has never been caught"

I’m not sure what you mean. I wasn’t for a second suggesting it would be as a player, and with him working at a car dealership a coaching role would seem unlikely too. But as a former captain who has played over 200 times for the club and is moving back down to the area, I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see him involved at the club in some capacity. It’s not uncommon for ex players take on ambassadorial roles or hosting on match days etc

He is a bit of a legend down there so I wouldn’t be surprised if he combines it with the some sort of role at Lincoln city. Even if that’s not the case I’m sure he has enough goodwill in the bank to make a few sales off fans who are in the market for a fancy motor

I am not generally a big fan of this guys videos, but thought this one was worth sharing here as he has a pretty interesting take on this exact subject. TLDR/TLDW = at a big club which can outspend their rivals (or in Englands case have an embarrasment of riches to call up), being a great tactician etc might be seen as less important than being a good fit for the culture/structure etc.

I know that some on here aren’t keen on the various Morton related Facebook groups but it’s worth checking out Chris Mcnultys post about Martin Doak on the Greenock Morton Old Photos group - lots of lovely comments from a who’s who of Morton legends of the 80s & 90s https://www.facebook.com/1395730088/videos/488643577449277/

Yeah I am (just) old enough to remember the ‘87 one but not ‘84. Definitely one of the most iconic Morton players of my years following us as his time with the club spans me being a primary school kid going with my uncle right up to being a teenager going into the cowshed with my mates. Aye I was shocked when I heard as I don’t reckon he could be much older than 60

Wow that’s big money for any club at this level - definitely worth us taking it seriously. I thought the prize money was peanuts and was wondering if you had got the decimal in the wrong place but I looked it up and stand corrected!

Very sad to hear that Martin Doak passed away. He was a great servant to the club and an ever present during my first few seasons going along to Cappielow as a lad

Where exactly did anyone claim that Dale was the best possible candidate out of all the applicants?

Perhaps, but even with that being the case we will still be towards the bottom end of the salary football clubs offer for these types of role.

It’s horses for courses I’m afraid. Just as we currently operate close to the bottom of the market for what we pay full time professional footballers, I expect the same to be the case for management/executive positions. As such any local candidates with more talent/ qualifications/ experience are likely already employed in roles that pay more than we can offer

What stark reality is that? Feel free to highlight which of the points you feel it wouldn’t be possible for us to make progress on

Dales comments from 15:50 onwards in this video would suggest otherwise (and it’s not the first time that the strategy has been discussed in these interviews). I don’t really think that so-called “evidence” from what other clubs are doing (or what we have done under the previous regime) is terribly relevant to our current situation. Until there is good reason to do otherwise, I will take these updates from the club at face value rather than indulging in speculation and hyperbole.

You mentioned 1 out of 18 goals which the document contains. The buck will stop with Dale for many if not all of these. We are less than 6 months into this 3 year strategy, so no I don’t expect Dale to get emptied if we fail to make the top 4 this season. I do fully expect that every one of the items contained therein will be reviewed on a regular basis, with the expectation that progress is being made towards them.

I think Dales statement after the game mentioned him supporting the decision of the safety advisors or something like that. I’m not sure whether that means from the police or from within the club (I suspect the latter as it didn’t explicitly mention the police). Either way it turned out to be the wrong call but at least there was a statement made to address it and provide a bit of transparency I am not for 1 minute trying to defend Dale here and saying he is doing a great job etc. All I’m saying is that a clear set of success measures have been laid out, and it’s upon them which his performance will be measured and to which he will be held accountable

what other gaffes? I’m not doubting you - I must have missed them all

That’s absolutely shocking. I’ve been to previous open days and spent a lot of cash on merchandise, a sponsored step in the main stand, and the previous seasons training gear. I can’t believe that the club have done nothing at the open day to try and make a bit of cash. Wow

He made a gaffe, nobody is denying that. All I’m saying is that ultimately his performance will be judged on things other than this single utterance.

The goals have been published by the club in a document that’s been discussed at length both on here and in several of Dales updates. The main 2 of which are financial sustainability and establishing ourselves as regular top 4 playoff contenders. Yes the 5,000 average gate thing was demonstrably incorrect, but I don’t get why people are queuing up to pounce on the guy over this. A lot of progress has been made to the running of the club but Dale is the first guy to admit that more must be done and that he himself too has room for improvement and a lot to learn.

wee guy (looks about 10) in the WDE threw a drink and it hit a steward. If you want to see it then its only 2 or 3 clicks away from the twitter link Jamie posted above but I won't post a direct link to it as (unacceptable as the behaviour was), I don't think its cool to share videos of a child who is probably already going to learn a very hard lesson as a result of this.