Scott Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 I thought we were only allowed four loanees? Is that changed? Do we not now have 4? Welsh, Rogers, Blues and Baird? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpoonTon Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Never rated him when he played against us, always looked clumsy and nervous on the ball. Hope he has improved. I have the same impression of him. Always fancied our chances against him. But he seems to be rated more highly than that by St Mirren fans, so maybe he always saved his worst for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deego Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 I want Broadfoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpoonTon Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Do we not now have 4? Welsh, Rogers, Blues and Baird? Livingstone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpoonTon Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 I want Broadfoot. I'm gonna guess he's signing for St Mirren, and that's why we're getting Baird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoon Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 We still don’t have a right back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles_Joe Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 There’s no reason to think that the club have not scrutinised the rules thoroughly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deego Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 I'm gonna guess he's signing for St Mirren, and that's why we're getting Baird. Anno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamCam Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Comes across as a bit of a desperate deal after last Friday. Sadly, defensively we are desperate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRVMP Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 This one is only to January. Don't think that makes a difference. See page 123: https://spfl.co.uk/admin/filemanager/images/shares/pdfs/SPFL%20Rules%20and%20Regulations%2030-May-19%20(MASTER%20COPY).pdf I've quoted it below, emphasis mine. I don't think any of our five loanees count towards item 60, but of course I have no way of knowing that for sure. 57 Subject to Regulations 60, a Club shall not, at any one time, have more than:- (i) one Player League Registered with it on the basis of a Temporary Transfer from any one other Club for the time being eligible to participate in the same Division as itself; (ii) two Players League Registered with it on the basis of Temporary Transfers from any one other Club for the time being eligible to participate in another Division from itself; and (iii) in aggregate, including Players falling within Regulations 57(i) and 57(ii), four Players League Registered with it on the basis of Temporary Transfers from Clubs and Scottish Football clubs. 58 Subject to Regulations 60, in the event that a transferee Club shall have more Players League Registered with it on the basis of Temporary Transfers than is permitted by Regulation 57, then, without prejudice to any action or proceedings as may be brought against such Club for breach of and/or failure to fulfil the relevant Rules and Regulations, the League Registration(s) of the Player(s) most recently League Registered with it on the basis of Temporary Transfers, except for any such Players so Registered in terms of Regulations 60 and/or 61, shall immediately terminate and be cancelled such that there shall be the number of Players from Clubs and other Scottish Football clubs League Registered with the relevant transferee Club on the basis of Temporary Transfers as shall be permitted by each of Regulations 57(i), 57(ii) and 57(iii). 59 It is the individual responsibility of each Club to ensure that it does not exceed the number of Players which may be League Registered with it on the basis of Temporary Transfers at any one time, than is permitted by each of Regulations 57(i), 57(ii) and 57(iii). Any Player whose League Registration with a transferee Club is terminated in accordance with Regulation 58 shall be dealt with in accordance with Regulation 65. Until such a Player’s League Registration shall revert to his transferor Club or his Registration reverts to a Scottish Football club in accordance with Regulation 65 or, if earlier, the Player shall become Registered with another Club or registered with a Football club, the Player shall be entitled to continue to be remunerated on the basis and in the amounts agreed by the Club(s) and/or Football club which agreed to remunerate him in terms of the written agreement(s) entered into and setting out the terms of the terminated and cancelled Temporary Transfer as if he had continued to be the subject of the Temporary Transfer during the period from the date of termination of his Temporary Transfer until the date when his Registration reverts to his transferor Club or he is Registered/registered to a Football club in accordance with Regulation 65. Any dispute as to the amount payable to such a Player during such period and/or by when and by which Club(s) and/or Football club it shall be payable and/or paid shall be determined by the Board as an Adjudication. International Temporary Transfers 60 Nothing in these Regulations shall have the effect of imposing any limit on the number of Players a Club shall be permitted to have Scottish FA Registered and/or League Registered with that Club at any time and/or over any period of time on the basis of a Temporary Transfer(s) where such Temporary Transfer(s) has/have required, in order to take place, the issue of an International Transfer Certificate(s) or its equivalent, in terms of the FIFA Regulations for the Status and Transfer of Players for the time being in force or any amending or replacement Regulations promulgated by FIFA or its successor. All such Players, for whom such certificate(s) were so required in order to be Temporarily Transferred, shall not be counted for the purposes of any of the limits, in particular, but without prejudice to the forgoing generality, the limits specified in Regulation 57, provided for in these Regulations on the numbers of Players who may be Scottish FA Registered and/or League Registered with a Club on the basis of a Temporary Transfer(s) at any time or over any period of time and/or who may not be eligible to Play in an Official Match by reason of the number of Players from time to time Scottish FA Registered and/or League Registered with a Club on the basis of Temporary Transfers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LargsTON Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 We still don’t have a right back. Possibly changing to 3 at the back with wing backs? Fuck knows. "CORNBEEF IS A BELLEND" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoon Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 I’m sorry but I really am not a fan of developing a player for our supposed fiercest rivals. He’s a decent enough player for this level but it reeks of desperation, and this is ignoring the Broadfoot mess. Not impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EanieMeany Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 The MCT money has certainly been well used on our superstar defence. AWMSC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpoonTon Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Don't think that makes a difference. See page 123: https://spfl.co.uk/admin/filemanager/images/shares/pdfs/SPFL%20Rules%20and%20Regulations%2030-May-19%20(MASTER%20COPY).pdf Reading that, it seems like I'm either reading it wrong, we've messed up, or we've managed to punt Blues back to Livi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRVMP Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Reading that, it seems like I'm either reading it wrong, we've messed up, or we've managed to punt Blues back to Livi. That's what I think might have happened. Either that or one of our players is subject to rule 60 (which I highly doubt), or the rules have changed without this document (which I accessed from here: https://spfl.co.uk/pages/rules-and-regulations) is wrong... or we're both understanding it incorrectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpoonTon Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Possibly changing to 3 at the back with wing backs? Fuck knows. Maybe he really does see Welsh as a right back. Or maybe he wanted Caddis and Welsh was all he could get as a back up. I'm not sure who he'd play at right wing back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubes Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Reading that, it seems like I'm either reading it wrong, we've messed up, or we've managed to punt Blues back to Livi. Fair few of us falling over ourselves with offers to drive him back over the road in the morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamCam Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 The MCT money has certainly been well used on our superstar defence. If the defence continues to leak goals at the current rate, I suspect some folk who are chipping in will be thinking the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Reading that, it seems like I'm either reading it wrong, we've messed up, or we've managed to punt Blues back to Livi. Could it be that there’s an exception for goalkeepers? I’ve seen similar exceptions in the past when they’ve been involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madton Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Readng that, it looks like a feck up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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