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[Rossco]

16 hours ago, Jamie_M said:

Yeah, they could have provided a link or something to take you to the full details. Oh wait...

(Actually, don't go to the link. Anyone else getting dodgy redirects when they go to the officials site?)

I did for the anniversary coin. Clicking the link for the 2nd time took me to the correct place.

[irnbru]

19 hours ago, Jamie_M said:

Yeah, they could have provided a link or something to take you to the full details. Oh wait...

(Actually, don't go to the link. Anyone else getting dodgy redirects when they go to the officials site?)

Aye, thought it was my phone but it's the site that's not set up properly. 

[Waverley]

I've just watched Dougie's pre-match interview for the Falkirk game and noticed that the badge on his shirt states "154 years". That batch of shirts should be in the bin. Who does quality control at the club or manufacturers?

[SpoonTon]

12 minutes ago, Waverley said:

I've just watched Dougie's pre-match interview for the Falkirk game and noticed that the badge on his shirt states "154 years". That batch of shirts should be in the bin. Who does quality control at the club or manufacturers?

I do get what you mean, but it definitely says "150 years". On my phone it looks like 154, but on my computer you can clearly see that it's 150. 

[Jamie_M]

43 minutes ago, Waverley said:

I've just watched Dougie's pre-match interview for the Falkirk game and noticed that the badge on his shirt states "154 years". That batch of shirts should be in the bin. Who does quality control at the club or manufacturers?

[StuartTon]

It’s quite clearly 150…

[Pedrodelawasp]

On 4/5/2025 at 4:03 PM, StuartTon said:

It’s quite clearly 150…

[Stevie Aitken's Love Child]

Forgive me if I missed it, but did the club ever announce the winner of the new away kit vote for next season?

Edit - Forgot we voted on a new home kit as well!

Edited May 2 by Stevie Aitken's Love Child

[dunning1874]

Other off-field news overshadowed this, but the queues on Friday.

That's the second time this season we've been giving away free tickets in schools. Great, that's a good idea a couple of times of season and the occasions picked to do so were sensible, with the 150th anniversary game and then an end of season dead rubber on a Friday night. If you get weans in the door who enjoy themselves then even 10% of them and their parents come back regularly, this is an obvious route to gradually growing the support and is commendable.

That is also twice that with a giveaway of free tickets the queues for the Cowshed have been all the way back to the railway bridge (they're lucky it was open again or that could have been a crowd control nightmare) with people waiting over 10 minutes to get in. Not foreseeing this being a problem for the Raith game in October and opening the extra turnstiles was itself stupid - if you'd given out 1000 free tickets and expected a larger crowd by that size, then you're obviously going to need the extra turnstile capacity to get that many people in in a reasonable timeframe. To have had that potential learning experience of the Raith game and still not open the extra turnstiles the next time there's a giveaway of free tickets beggars belief, and greatly decreases the prospect of any of them coming back again.

[SpoonTon]

4 hours ago, dunning1874 said:

Other off-field news overshadowed this, but the queues on Friday.

That's the second time this season we've been giving away free tickets in schools. Great, that's a good idea a couple of times of season and the occasions picked to do so were sensible, with the 150th anniversary game and then an end of season dead rubber on a Friday night. If you get weans in the door who enjoy themselves then even 10% of them and their parents come back regularly, this is an obvious route to gradually growing the support and is commendable.

That is also twice that with a giveaway of free tickets the queues for the Cowshed have been all the way back to the railway bridge (they're lucky it was open again or that could have been a crowd control nightmare) with people waiting over 10 minutes to get in. Not foreseeing this being a problem for the Raith game in October and opening the extra turnstiles was itself stupid - if you'd given out 1000 free tickets and expected a larger crowd by that size, then you're obviously going to need the extra turnstile capacity to get that many people in in a reasonable timeframe. To have had that potential learning experience of the Raith game and still not open the extra turnstiles the next time there's a giveaway of free tickets beggars belief, and greatly decreases the prospect of any of them coming back again.

 

I've said this before and no doubt I'll say it again, but part of the issue is a lack of organisation of queues and a lack of understanding of how to scan tickets (or help for those who don't know). I had to help the kid in front of me scan his ticket - it didn't take long cause I did that but we could have been there all day if I didn't. 

I'll also say that I arrived at the ground just before half past and there was a small queue and it took about a minute to get in. I'm in no way trying to say that there aren't problems with the system, and with instruction and help, but I don't think I'd go to any organised event like that anywhere and expect there to be no issues if I turned up with less than 15 minutes before it started. 

I mean, we do need more turnstiles for nights like that. And we need to actually organise the queues. And we need to make sure that we repeatedly give people instructions on how to use tickets, and have sufficient help for issues at entry. And also communication about when you expect people should turn up. I'm not trying to paper over those cracks. 

But also, just turn up slightly earlier if you can. It's been like that all season, so I've been leaving the house 5 or 10 minutes earlier. I know I can easily solve that issue for myself, and other regulars should know by now they can do similar. 

 

[TopCat]

The pie stall had similar issues - i didn't bother going as the queue was all the way back to the top of the entrance stairs both during the game and at half time. 

The turnstiles may theoretically be able to get folk through at a faster rate than what was seen on Friday night, but that doesn't mean anything when the 45° angle on the scanner still seems to cause so many folk bother - that's the main source of delay. If it's possible to get from the concourse to your seat at Hampden in 10 minutes, Morton can certainly achieve that with 1800 folk entering the cowshed.

This is basic stuff and the club should be able to fix it.

[irnbru]

51 minutes ago, SpoonTon said:

 

I've said this before and no doubt I'll say it again, but part of the issue is a lack of organisation of queues and a lack of understanding of how to scan tickets (or help for those who don't know). I had to help the kid in front of me scan his ticket - it didn't take long cause I did that but we could have been there all day if I didn't. 

I'll also say that I arrived at the ground just before half past and there was a small queue and it took about a minute to get in. I'm in no way trying to say that there aren't problems with the system, and with instruction and help, but I don't think I'd go to any organised event like that anywhere and expect there to be no issues if I turned up with less than 15 minutes before it started. 

I mean, we do need more turnstiles for nights like that. And we need to actually organise the queues. And we need to make sure that we repeatedly give people instructions on how to use tickets, and have sufficient help for issues at entry. And also communication about when you expect people should turn up. I'm not trying to paper over those cracks. 

But also, just turn up slightly earlier if you can. It's been like that all season, so I've been leaving the house 5 or 10 minutes earlier. I know I can easily solve that issue for myself, and other regulars should know by now they can do similar. 

 

There was also roadworks heading through Belville Street so with that holding people up and free tickets then there should have been more gates open. Agree on most of the other points - in general they are fine but not every game is the same. 

[SpoonTon]

15 minutes ago, irnbru said:

There was also roadworks heading through Belville Street so with that holding people up and free tickets then there should have been more gates open. Agree on most of the other points - in general they are fine but not every game is the same. 

The other thing I don't know is if it feels different for me cause I'm driving 40-50 minutes to get there in the first place. I'm already in the mindset that I'm looking at what the roads are like and any adjustments I have to make. Leaving 5-10 minutes earlier might feel like less of a big deal to me because it's a smaller percentage of my overall travel time. I don't know. 

We should have either opened up more turnstiles or have staff at the gates belong to scan tickets. Generally, we could certainly make it smoother. 

1 hour ago, TopCat said:

The pie stall had similar issues - i didn't bother going as the queue was all the way back to the top of the entrance stairs both during the game and at half time. 

The turnstiles may theoretically be able to get folk through at a faster rate than what was seen on Friday night, but that doesn't mean anything when the 45° angle on the scanner still seems to cause so many folk bother - that's the main source of delay. If it's possible to get from the concourse to your seat at Hampden in 10 minutes, Morton can certainly achieve that with 1800 folk entering the cowshed.

This is basic stuff and the club should be able to fix it.

The pie stall queue is wild. That needs addressed for next season. 

To be fair, I usually arrive at Hampden well before kickoff time to avoid issues, but I have had issues in occasion. Once when guys in front me spent about 5 minutes trying to get in, and shouting at a steward to fix it, to finally be told that they were at the wrong part of the ground. I think the lesson all round is probably to expect and plan for user error. 

[irnbru]

57 minutes ago, SpoonTon said:

The other thing I don't know is if it feels different for me cause I'm driving 40-50 minutes to get there in the first place. I'm already in the mindset that I'm looking at what the roads are like and any adjustments I have to make. Leaving 5-10 minutes earlier might feel like less of a big deal to me because it's a smaller percentage of my overall travel time. I don't know. 

We should have either opened up more turnstiles or have staff at the gates belong to scan tickets. Generally, we could certainly make it smoother. 

That's the first time I've ever missed kick off and ended up missing two goals. I agree that you can't turn up a few minutes before but I don't think that was the case last night. 

[Rossco]

On 5/4/2025 at 2:03 PM, SpoonTon said:

 

I've said this before and no doubt I'll say it again, but part of the issue is a lack of organisation of queues and a lack of understanding of how to scan tickets (or help for those who don't know). I had to help the kid in front of me scan his ticket - it didn't take long cause I did that but we could have been there all day if I didn't. 

I'll also say that I arrived at the ground just before half past and there was a small queue and it took about a minute to get in. I'm in no way trying to say that there aren't problems with the system, and with instruction and help, but I don't think I'd go to any organised event like that anywhere and expect there to be no issues if I turned up with less than 15 minutes before it started. 

I mean, we do need more turnstiles for nights like that. And we need to actually organise the queues. And we need to make sure that we repeatedly give people instructions on how to use tickets, and have sufficient help for issues at entry. And also communication about when you expect people should turn up. I'm not trying to paper over those cracks. 

But also, just turn up slightly earlier if you can. It's been like that all season, so I've been leaving the house 5 or 10 minutes earlier. I know I can easily solve that issue for myself, and other regulars should know by now they can do similar. 

 

Problem is with the queue getting longer closer to kick off there is no urgency from the stewards to get people into the ground in a fast manner. If people are attending the ground for the 1st time & there did ssem to be a lot turning up with tickets from schools they may run into problems that regular attendees don't & I think the stewards should be doing more to assist with this. 

 

The head steward was just standing about looking at the queue & checking bags while the queue was as long as Sinclair street. More Turnstiles & hand scanners like there was in the past would solve this problem. 

[GiGi]

23 minutes ago, Rossco said:

Problem is with the queue getting longer closer to kick off there is no urgency from the stewards to get people into the ground in a fast manner. If people are attending the ground for the 1st time & there did ssem to be a lot turning up with tickets from schools they may run into problems that regular attendees don't & I think the stewards should be doing more to assist with this. 

 

The head steward was just standing about looking at the queue & checking bags while the queue was as long as Sinclair street. More Turnstiles & hand scanners like there was in the past would solve this problem. 

The stewards have their issues but the number of turnstiles open isn't down to them. It's an operational issue the club need to be dealing with. We've unused manual turnstiles sitting there every week that could be getting people into the ground twice as quick. 

[SpoonTon]

34 minutes ago, Rossco said:

Problem is with the queue getting longer closer to kick off there is no urgency from the stewards to get people into the ground in a fast manner. If people are attending the ground for the 1st time & there did ssem to be a lot turning up with tickets from schools they may run into problems that regular attendees don't & I think the stewards should be doing more to assist with this. 

 

The head steward was just standing about looking at the queue & checking bags while the queue was as long as Sinclair street. More Turnstiles & hand scanners like there was in the past would solve this problem. 

I completely agree about the lack of help at the turnstiles. Both in organising queues and also with quickly helping people through the turnstiles. I don't think the club does nearly enough in communicating with people attending games about when it wants them to start arriving or how to scan tickets efficiently. 

Obviously a simple solution to this would be opening more turnstiles, but the lack of efficiency around the current system bugs me. If they don't want to do the necessary organisation to make the current system work, then open more turnstiles. 

Maybe club directors should take turns at helping fans scan their tickets at the turnstiles...

[vikingTON]

4 hours ago, SpoonTon said:

I completely agree about the lack of help at the turnstiles. Both in organising queues and also with quickly helping people through the turnstiles. I don't think the club does nearly enough in communicating with people attending games about when it wants them to start arriving or how to scan tickets efficiently. 

Obviously a simple solution to this would be opening more turnstiles, but the lack of efficiency around the current system bugs me. If they don't want to do the necessary organisation to make the current system work, then open more turnstiles. 

Maybe club directors should take turns at helping fans scan their tickets at the turnstiles...

I really don't see lack of efficiency as the main problem - it's a lack of realism.

Iron Man IIRC claimed that each white elephant turnstile would be whizzing through 4 (possibly 6?) punters per minute. That was always a pig in a poke sold to the club by the Scouse shyster.

1) A football crowd is like herding cats - you just aren't getting 100% attention and preparation for the big scanner test at the end (similar to yapping wifies in a supermarket queue just realising that their purse is in their handbag )

2) The QR code scanners we have installed require a particular size and particular angle to read the code and process entry. But about 3 seconds after we installed them, mobile tickets - with different zoom options, brightness settings etc. rendered this pernicketyness a serious obstacle. I haven't encountered a QR scanner as inefficient as Morton’s turnstiles anywhere. 

Those are two practical issues, but the third is that the sums overall don't stack up. Even at optimal speed and efficiency, 4 turnstiles were never going to process both the Sinclair Street and Cowshed crowd in good time and order, for anything other than the most anaemic, struggling to hit 1,000 crowds. There's a reason why there were so many more manual turnstiles both installed and operational before, and it wasn't just a legacy of the occasional huge crowd. 

[TONofmemories]

9 hours ago, SpoonTon said:

I completely agree about the lack of help at the turnstiles. Both in organising queues and also with quickly helping people through the turnstiles. I don't think the club does nearly enough in communicating with people attending games about when it wants them to start arriving or how to scan tickets efficiently. 

Obviously a simple solution to this would be opening more turnstiles, but the lack of efficiency around the current system bugs me. If they don't want to do the necessary organisation to make the current system work, then open more turnstiles. 

Maybe club directors should take turns at helping fans scan their tickets at the turnstiles...

And miss a free nosh up in the hospitality suites? Cmon, now

[Jamie_M]

 

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