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[LargsTON]

I may be wrong but wasn't Imrie's budget curtailed because some of the gate receipts from the cup were earmarked for the proposed development behind the cowshed?  If this has been put on the backburner then I'd expect Dougie to be given further funds for players then.

[Mr.Blue]

1 hour ago, LargsTON said:

I may be wrong but wasn't Imrie's budget curtailed because some of the gate receipts from the cup were earmarked for the proposed development behind the cowshed?  If this has been put on the backburner then I'd expect Dougie to be given further funds for players then.

I've heard that we really struggled to get the safety certificate for Cappielow dor the coming season. Wouldn't be at all surprised if some of that cash has been used to get the safety certificate 

[capitanus]

1 hour ago, Mr.Blue said:

I've heard that we really struggled to get the safety certificate for Cappielow dor the coming season. Wouldn't be at all surprised if some of that cash has been used to get the safety certificate 

Couldnt they just photocopy last years and tippex out the date?

[Mr.Blue]

11 hours ago, capitanus said:

Couldnt they just photocopy last years and tippex out the date?

Capitanus for CEO

[Hands of Cowan]

19 hours ago, capitanus said:

Couldnt they just photocopy last years and tippex out the date?

Warren Hawke, is that you ????? 

[capitanus]

16 minutes ago, Hands of Cowan said:

Warren Hawke, is that you ????? 

Twenty Five Grand for a feasibility study!?!  Well, ta very much.  There's nothing to see here.

 

 

[TRVMP]

Apparently we are hosting the Rangers B - Bo'ness game on Tuesday the 30th of July.

The pitch is already looking a bit parched. Does it really need another 90 minutes of play?

[The Bewilderedbeast]

On 7/4/2024 at 8:50 PM, Mr.Blue said:

I've heard that we really struggled to get the safety certificate for Cappielow dor the coming season. Wouldn't be at all surprised if some of that cash has been used to get the safety certificate. 

Dale said that at one of meetings (MCT or Club AGM) can't remember which

[Jamie_M]

14 minutes ago, TRVMP said:

Apparently we are hosting the Rangers B - Bo'ness game on Tuesday the 30th of July.

The pitch is already looking a bit parched. Does it really need another 90 minutes of play?

They played their games here last season. Agreement obviously just continuing.

[vikingTON]

2 hours ago, The Bewilderedbeast said:

Dale said that at one of meetings (MCT or Club AGM) can't remember which

Would this be the same 'Dale' who said that we'd be signing players this summer based on their ironclad fitness record (Corr!) as well as 'minerals' (not yet forthcoming)? And who said that we needed to play a parade of turgid snorefest home friendlies to fully integrate our new talent before the League Cup began? 

It's probably best to start filing Dale's pronouncements in the same bin previously reserved for his Iron Man predecessor. 

[Chicken_Soup]

18 hours ago, vikingTON said:

Would this be the same 'Dale' who said that we'd be signing players this summer based on their ironclad fitness record (Corr!) as well as 'minerals' (not yet forthcoming)? And who said that we needed to play a parade of turgid snorefest home friendlies to fully integrate our new talent before the League Cup began? 

It's probably best to start filing Dale's pronouncements in the same bin previously reserved for his Iron Man predecessor. 

Would you rather we adopted a policy of signing players with a record of frequent injury? And are you implying we shouldn’t have signed Corr on the basis of injuries that occurred after we signed him? 

My understanding was that, in the context of the statement, “minerals” = the durability to play a high number of games over the course of the season. As the league campaign has yet to even begin, the success of this is obviously yet to be determined.

 

[Cet Homme Charmant]

Buying the land behind the cowshed, apparently to only realise afterwards that developing it will actually cost money we don't have, seems like an avoidable waste of money along the same lines as the electronic turnstiles and roof for the WDE.

It's clear that Cappielow is going to need some significant investment sooner rather than later, as the annual lick of paint and 'action days' to get fans to clean seagull shite off the seats is not going to cut the mustard much longer when it comes to getting safety certificates. So for me securing the finances for that should be Dale's No-1 priority over 'minerals' and suchlike. I would hope and assume that actions are ongoing behind the scenes to secure the required funds, but if it has been publicised I obviously missed it.

The jury's obviously still out on Dale and I certainly haven't written him off yet, but he's going to have to turn his rhetoric into tangible results pretty soon, or confidence in him will surely start to drain.

[port-ton]

51 minutes ago, Chicken_Soup said:

Would you rather we adopted a policy of signing players with a record of frequent injury? And are you implying we shouldn’t have signed Corr on the basis of injuries that occurred after we signed him? 

My understanding was that, in the context of the statement, “minerals” = the durability to play a high number of games over the course of the season. As the league campaign has yet to even begin, the success of this is obviously yet to be determined.

Corr dislocated his shoulder at Raith a few months ago and has done it again twice since signing for Morton. You can’t legislate for every injury but you shouldn’t be coming out with nonsense like that in interviews because it will always come back to bite you. The fact he’s the general manager and spending far too much time speaking about football matters rather than almost everything else off the pitch that seems to be at a standstill makes it even worse. 
 

The only actual thing that I can think of that he’s implemented in his time so far is integrating the women’s team in to the club, which although admirable is not something I’ve seen discussed about the cost of that and if it’s sustainable for a fan owned club at our level to cover that cost? I genuinely don’t know the answer to that but I can’t imagine it’s cheap and if it’s self sustainable at this level or the level the women play at or ever will be. 

so much of the things he does from his middle management speak, five pillars, getting involved in football matters and almost being the front face of talking about them plastered all over internal and external media outlets as well as being the saviour of Greenock Morton Women’s team screams of someone trying to pad their CV for his next employer rather than someone who’s actually implementing any real change or progress at the club. 

[Chicken_Soup]

1 hour ago, port-ton said:

Corr dislocated his shoulder at Raith a few months ago and has done it again twice since signing for Morton. You can’t legislate for every injury but you shouldn’t be coming out with nonsense like that in interviews because it will always come back to bite you. The fact he’s the general manager and spending far too much time speaking about football matters rather than almost everything else off the pitch that seems to be at a standstill makes it even worse. 
 

To be clear, my comment was purely in relation to VT’s lazy and inconsistent criticism of our transfer policy. We can’t afford to suffer through injury crises like those of last season, and our transfer dealings should reflect that. As you say, you can’t legislate for situations like Corr’s, and I don’t recall anyone criticising the signing at the time. So why are we even discussing it?

[vikingTON]

1 hour ago, Chicken_Soup said:

To be clear, my comment was purely in relation to VT’s lazy and inconsistent criticism of our transfer policy. We can’t afford to suffer through injury crises like those of last season, and our transfer dealings should reflect that. As you say, you can’t legislate for situations like Corr’s, and I don’t recall anyone criticising the signing at the time. So why are we even discussing it?

The only inconsistency apparent here is your and 'Dale''s 'our transfer policy will account for injuries and fitness - except when it doesn't but that's not out fault honest'.

Just like the pre-season matches that would prove excellent preparation until they didn't.

And the land purchased that would generate matchday revenue for the club until it couldn't. 

So it's being discussed among the growing set of tells that the GM as a prime bullshit merchant. You may empathise with that character trait but I agree with the above poster - this looks so far like a CV-padding exercise without credibility. 

[Chicken_Soup]

40 minutes ago, vikingTON said:

The only inconsistency apparent here is your and 'Dale''s 'our transfer policy will account for injuries and fitness - except when it doesn't but that's not out fault honest'.

Just like the pre-season matches that would prove excellent preparation until they didn't.

And the land purchased that would generate matchday revenue for the club until it couldn't. 

So it's being discussed among the growing set of tells that the GM as a prime bullshit merchant. You may empathise with that character trait but I agree with the above poster - this looks so far like a CV-padding exercise without credibility. 

Just makes it clearer that you’re projecting your somewhat understandable dissatisfaction with other elements of the GM’s performance onto the issue of recruitment. A topic on which you’ve used the signing of Corr as the prime example without coherently explaining what it is about this signing you’re unhappy with, or who is to blame for it. 

 

[LargsTON]

I'm starting to agree on the assessment of Dale tbh.   It riles me that the budget was specifically curtailed as money was earmarked for developing of the area behind the cowshed.  However as far as I'm aware no details were ever provided of what said development actually was and the associated costs?  It does feel very much like more fanciful ideas with no real blueprint.  As I said a couple of weeks ago if these works aren't now going ahead for whatever reason more funds should be released to Imrie as a matter of urgency.  If not I believe this club could be about to unravel in catastrophic fashion.

Edited July 26 by LargsTON

[dunning1874]

15 hours ago, Chicken_Soup said:

Just makes it clearer that you’re projecting your somewhat understandable dissatisfaction with other elements of the GM’s performance onto the issue of recruitment. A topic on which you’ve used the signing of Corr as the prime example without coherently explaining what it is about this signing you’re unhappy with, or who is to blame for it. 

 

It was Pryde-MacDonald who chose to pipe up about how the club wouldn't be signing injury prone players because they didn't have "the minerals required to be a Greenock Morton FC player", and it would be "irresponsible" of him personally to allow such players to be offered contracts, but that wouldn't happen because he'd do his "due diligence" to avoid seeing the club "hand out strong financial contracts to players who are unable to meet the demands of playing for the Greenock Morton badge." He chose to come out with this rant which was obviously a thinly veiled dig at a departed player when he could have kept quiet and not made a rod for his own back, but instead he decided to go off on one about how "we can’t have players floating about the building for the sake of it.”

This was already a risky road for him to go down when we had Iain Wilson and Ryan Mullen under contract and had offered new contracts to Grant Gillespie and George Oakley. It's even riskier when you then sign a 19 year old - on a two year deal - who has already had a broken metatarsal and dislocated the same shoulder twice in one season of first team football. When that player then dislocates the same shoulder another two times before the end of July and now needs surgery before the league season even starts which will see him miss "a large part of the season", it makes Pryde-MacDonald look like an idiot who was babbling utter nonsense.

Injuries happen and can't always be legislated for, but you wouldn't file that in the unpredictable category. If he had said nothing about injury prone players earlier in the summer everyone would be feeling that the situation with Corr is unfortunate, and obviously everyone should still have nothing but sympathy for Corr.

Instead though he had that rant above in response to the story about Strapp leaving saying that players who get injured don't have the minerals, can't be floating around the club for the sake of it and it would be irresponsible of him to let that happen, and now that's painted a massive target on his own back and regrettably on Imrie's too whenever someone gets a long term injury. As General Manager of the club he couldn't help having a massive tantrum in response to criticism and now, entirely predictably, that criticism is going to be even worse when an injury prone player gets injured. He's created this backlash himself.

[TopCat]

I don't think the rambling nature of the update videos are helping with this impression. I'd much rather see a concise 5 minute segment on what's happened in the last couple of months, plus a summary of what the plan is going forward. If the fan zone idea is dead in the water, he should openly say that and give reasons why. Footballing discussion should be left entirely to Imrie as well.

[vikingTON]

14 hours ago, Chicken_Soup said:

Just makes it clearer that you’re projecting your somewhat understandable dissatisfaction with other elements of the GM’s performance onto the issue of recruitment. A topic on which you’ve used the signing of Corr as the prime example without coherently explaining what it is about this signing you’re unhappy with, or who is to blame for it. 

 

Given the only person struggling to grasp the point is yourself, that's not really my problem to solve.