Jamie_M Posted March 21 Author Share Posted March 21 (edited) 12 minutes ago, The Bewilderedbeast said: Something similar was suggested, Dale pointed out that if the club offers discounts then the same deal HAS (by law) to be offered to all supporters, home and away throughout the season. As he said, if they do that then the club would be basically giving money away. Obviously there's a balance to be drawn between an offer that just discounts current customers vs the benefit of attracting new ones and obviously it would have to apply to home and away. The rest of that point didn't make much sense though like saying you can't run one-off promotions or offer a deal to a specific group. Happens everywhere (student, NHS, people dressed as pirates etc). Edited March 21 by Jamie_M 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bewilderedbeast Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Apparently that's the rule (law). Whether is SPFL, SFA rules or Legislation wasn't made clear. But that's what was said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cet Homme Charmant Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 150th anniversary merchandise collection https://www.smithsofgreenock.co.uk/product-category/greenock-morton-fc/greenock-morton-fc-greenock-morton-150th-anniversary/?fbclid=IwAR1anY84MSOCkT4lpwnsmVUrOxmmAP-OERXbUkOTEhKRfqAg3A8MKwr9OH4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_M Posted March 21 Author Share Posted March 21 1 hour ago, The Bewilderedbeast said: Apparently that's the rule (law). Whether is SPFL, SFA rules or Legislation wasn't made clear. But that's what was said. Has to be some crossed wires somewhere otherwise there would be no concessions, no free tickets etc. Rule definitely in place that you can charge away fans more for equivalent tickets but discounts for specific groups seems fair game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_M Posted March 21 Author Share Posted March 21 Somebody's reading the commentary. Merch tweet out of nowhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRVMP Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Just ordered a sack full of tat. International shipping is a flat rate of 20 quid so I loaded in more stuff to make it 'worth it'. Had I not seen this I wouldn't have done it. I have personally funded the George Oakley extension. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deego Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 1 hour ago, Jamie_M said: Somebody's reading the commentary. Merch tweet out of nowhere. There was a question last night about merch so maybe a follow up to that. (The question was about the arrangement with Smiths, which’ll be reviewed. Dale said something along the lines of expecting a club our size to be generating more from merch than we are. Seemed to be a real frustration point for him so be interesting to see how that develops). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_M Posted March 21 Author Share Posted March 21 1 hour ago, Deego said: There was a question last night about merch so maybe a follow up to that. (The question was about the arrangement with Smiths, which’ll be reviewed. Dale said something along the lines of expecting a club our size to be generating more from merch than we are. Seemed to be a real frustration point for him so be interesting to see how that develops). Know they have said that in the past so good to see it's still on the agenda. Catering should also be looked at if we still just get a flat fee for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Toby Posted March 21 Popular Post Share Posted March 21 6 hours ago, The Bewilderedbeast said: Something similar was suggested, Dale pointed out that if the club offers discounts then the same deal HAS (by law) to be offered to all supporters, home and away throughout the season. As he said, if they do that then the club would be basically giving money away. The question of stewarding also came up. Dale said that he and the head of the stewarding company had, what he described as a "tense" meeting on Tuesday and several issues had been raised. He confirmed that things, which had previously gone on, would no longer be going on. He didn't elaborate on what these things are or were. Though, I'd imagine that the issue of people being denied entry if they turned up late would be one of them. He also acknowledged that if someone was approached aggressively then they themselves would become aggressive in return. The club have purchased a 2 bedroom flat in Dunlop St for the use of players on the basis that a new signing can be offered accommodation as part of their contract (Jordan Davis springs to mind). This means the flat is a club owned asset and there are no outgoing such as rent etc. All in all I thought it was a fairly positive meeting, and to boot I learned a new word.....Organigram. Can’t say I’m not disappointed with the club’s lack of a response to my complaint about this. I’ve not spoken to my mate since the weekend, but to my knowledge he’s not heard anything from the club beyond his refund, which I assume he received. And given that the complaint came from myself, neither have I since the admin boy, Alistair told me he had passed on my complaint to the General Manager. I don’t think that just giving a refund with no explanation or apology to my pal, or reassurance to me that an investigation is taking place is enough, to be honest. I was prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt for not replying immediately because everyone inside the club would have been busy in the lead up to the Hearts game, but hearing nothing two weeks after making a valid complaint, and a week and a half after the big event that consumed their focus is poor. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post vikingTON Posted March 22 Popular Post Share Posted March 22 On 3/20/2024 at 9:49 PM, Mr.Blue said: MITC engage with over 500 kids through their football teams, community sessions and holiday camps. Seems like the club and the community could be missing a trick there. First team players are regularly involved in those engagement activities though, as a browse through MITC content would demonstrate. Leaving aside the fact that it's not actually a footballer's contractual obligation to grow the fanbase - that's commercial/marketing behind the scenes - the idea that they're not doing their bit is nonsense. 3 The site is supposed to be a place for the extended 'family' of Morton supporters - having an affinity with people that you don't know, because you share a love of your local football club. It's not supposed to be about point scoring and showing how 'clever' or 'funny' you are, or just being downright rude and offensive to people you don't know, because you can get away with it. Unfortunately, it seems the classic case of people who have little standing/presence in real life, use this forum as a way of making themselves feel as if they are something. It's sad, and I've said that before.. So, having been on Morton forums for about 15 years I guess, I've had enough... well done t*ssers, another Morton supporter driven away. You can all feel happy at how 'clever' you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 (edited) On 3/21/2024 at 11:38 AM, The Bewilderedbeast said: Something similar was suggested, Dale pointed out that if the club offers discounts then the same deal HAS (by law) to be offered to all supporters, home and away throughout the season. As he said, if they do that then the club would be basically giving money away. Perhaps Dale has misunderstood the question posed, as providing a concession on certain grounds should apply all season and should apply to both home/away fans. That's not money wasted, so long as the club does eligibility checks at a ticket booth. There's no magic law compelling SPFL clubs to offer their existing discounts based on age or economic activity either - although if a club did something buckshee like giving a tenner off after a pint in Chaplin's or whichever wine bar/bistro Partick fans frequent before their home matches, then you'd still expect the SPFL to knock heads together. Regardless, given our track record, I wouldn't be taking any Morton club official's insistence that something can't be done for Very Important Reasons seriously until Warren 'Iron Man's Hawke's tenure is a fairy tale used to frighten weans into eating their broccoli. Edited March 22 by vikingTON The site is supposed to be a place for the extended 'family' of Morton supporters - having an affinity with people that you don't know, because you share a love of your local football club. It's not supposed to be about point scoring and showing how 'clever' or 'funny' you are, or just being downright rude and offensive to people you don't know, because you can get away with it. Unfortunately, it seems the classic case of people who have little standing/presence in real life, use this forum as a way of making themselves feel as if they are something. It's sad, and I've said that before.. So, having been on Morton forums for about 15 years I guess, I've had enough... well done t*ssers, another Morton supporter driven away. You can all feel happy at how 'clever' you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 While you do in theory have to provide the same discount for away fans, that’s where multi-game offers are the way forward, and to be fair to the club, they did offer this for the four games from Airdrie until next week’s game against Queen’s Park. My only criticism of that would be that the Airdrie game came just before the end of the month, when many folk are typically paid, so shelling out £70-odd for a modest discount just before your wages come in isn’t always ideal. Doing a monthly deal might be an idea- if there are two home games in a month, offer a £40 ticket and if there are three do one for £60. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Blue Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 3 hours ago, vikingTON said: First team players are regularly involved in those engagement activities though, as a browse through MITC content would demonstrate. Leaving aside the fact that it's not actually a footballer's contractual obligation to grow the fanbase - that's commercial/marketing behind the scenes - the idea that they're not doing their bit is nonsense. I didn't say anything about players not doing their bit? I do think with the 500 odd kids involved with MitC through football the club could be more proactive with that partnership. If the kids sign up for a team or a community session then could we have them as part of a 'Young Ton' group or something similar where they get a newsletter, tickets to games, vouchers for merch on their birthdays etc. Just a suggestion. There's a storm on the horizon And for that I can't see the sun For I'll keep a waiting on the pavement For the ice cream van to come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Just now, Mr.Blue said: I didn't say anything about players not doing their bit? I do think with the 500 odd kids involved with MitC through football the club could be more proactive with that partnership. If the kids sign up for a team or a community session then could we have them as part of a 'Young Ton' group or something similar where they get a newsletter, tickets to games, vouchers for merch on their birthdays etc. Just a suggestion. That was the entire premise of the post you responded to, with a 'missing a trick' claim. I'm hardly chief cheerleader for Community based engagement, but I'm really not seeing how we're missing out on some obvious sure-fire way to build the fanbase, on top of what is already taking place along similar lines. The site is supposed to be a place for the extended 'family' of Morton supporters - having an affinity with people that you don't know, because you share a love of your local football club. It's not supposed to be about point scoring and showing how 'clever' or 'funny' you are, or just being downright rude and offensive to people you don't know, because you can get away with it. Unfortunately, it seems the classic case of people who have little standing/presence in real life, use this forum as a way of making themselves feel as if they are something. It's sad, and I've said that before.. So, having been on Morton forums for about 15 years I guess, I've had enough... well done t*ssers, another Morton supporter driven away. You can all feel happy at how 'clever' you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Blue Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 7 hours ago, vikingTON said: That was the entire premise of the post you responded to, with a 'missing a trick' claim. I'm hardly chief cheerleader for Community based engagement, but I'm really not seeing how we're missing out on some obvious sure-fire way to build the fanbase, on top of what is already taking place along similar lines. No it wasn't. There's a storm on the horizon And for that I can't see the sun For I'll keep a waiting on the pavement For the ice cream van to come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiGi Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 15 hours ago, Toby said: While you do in theory have to provide the same discount for away fans, that’s where multi-game offers are the way forward, and to be fair to the club, they did offer this for the four games from Airdrie until next week’s game against Queen’s Park. My only criticism of that would be that the Airdrie game came just before the end of the month, when many folk are typically paid, so shelling out £70-odd for a modest discount just before your wages come in isn’t always ideal. Doing a monthly deal might be an idea- if there are two home games in a month, offer a £40 ticket and if there are three do one for £60. Agree. To split hairs, if I was marketing it I'd say 2 games for £39. Looks better and you can say saving a fiver. And so on. Peter Weatherson is the greatest player since Ritchie, and should be assigned 'chairman for life' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 5 hours ago, Mr.Blue said: No it wasn't. Yes it really was though: "As has been said we need to get more involved in schools. Back in my day even the likes of Martin Doak, John McNeil and Jim Holmes would even turn up to Cubs and Boys brigade events and they weren't even full time!! Reaching out to local boys clubs who obviously have an interest in the game is a no brainer as they would provide coaches to watch the youngsters and it would be highly likely to add some parents through the turnstiles. We have "a good bunch of lads" who were not utilising enough if @ all in the future support. How often is there a first team player or 2 showing up at youngsters prize giving events/sports days nowadays? First team football doesn't end when you walk off the training pitch imho." The site is supposed to be a place for the extended 'family' of Morton supporters - having an affinity with people that you don't know, because you share a love of your local football club. It's not supposed to be about point scoring and showing how 'clever' or 'funny' you are, or just being downright rude and offensive to people you don't know, because you can get away with it. Unfortunately, it seems the classic case of people who have little standing/presence in real life, use this forum as a way of making themselves feel as if they are something. It's sad, and I've said that before.. So, having been on Morton forums for about 15 years I guess, I've had enough... well done t*ssers, another Morton supporter driven away. You can all feel happy at how 'clever' you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greacen2000 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Just seen a tweet from the club saying todays match can be streamed (including in UK) - what happened to the blackout on broadcasting 3 o’clock kick offs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie Aitken's Love Child Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 1 minute ago, Greacen2000 said: Just seen a tweet from the club saying todays match can be streamed (including in UK) - what happened to the blackout on broadcasting 3 o’clock kick offs? International weekends are exempt from that rule I think. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Blue Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 5 hours ago, vikingTON said: Yes it really was though: "As has been said we need to get more involved in schools. Back in my day even the likes of Martin Doak, John McNeil and Jim Holmes would even turn up to Cubs and Boys brigade events and they weren't even full time!! Reaching out to local boys clubs who obviously have an interest in the game is a no brainer as they would provide coaches to watch the youngsters and it would be highly likely to add some parents through the turnstiles. We have "a good bunch of lads" who were not utilising enough if @ all in the future support. How often is there a first team player or 2 showing up at youngsters prize giving events/sports days nowadays? First team football doesn't end when you walk off the training pitch imho." It really wasn't. Regardless of what posts you quote that wasn't the reasoning behind my point. There's a storm on the horizon And for that I can't see the sun For I'll keep a waiting on the pavement For the ice cream van to come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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