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[RealTonKid]

I think one of the factors is due to Inverclyde being a deprived area. We used to offer concessions for people who are unemployed, or on disability allowance. The way I see it, the more people we encourage - the more money in the club’s pocket.

[Cet Homme Charmant]

2 hours ago, RealTonKid said:

I think one of the factors is due to Inverclyde being a deprived area.  

So is Kirkcaldy though, and it's obviously not having a huge impact on Raith.

Inverclyde has been relatively deprived as long as I can remember, even when we were pulling in decent crowds in the late 70s/early80s and early 2000s. I think a bigger factor is depopulation. The current population of Inverclyde is around 75000, whereas 30 years ago it was over 100000. That's a huge reduction in the potential fanbase..

[GiGi]

6 minutes ago, Cet Homme Charmant said:

So is Kirkcaldy though, and it's obviously not having a huge impact on Raith.

Inverclyde has been relatively deprived as long as I can remember, even when we were pulling in decent crowds in the late 70s/early80s and early 2000s. I think a bigger factor is depopulation. The current population of Inverclyde is around 75000, whereas 30 years ago it was over 100000. That's a huge reduction in the potential fanbase..

Combination of lower local population to work from, less disposable income in the pockets of that population and change in work patterns over the years. Plus being largely shite for the majority of that, hardly getting a sniff of top tier football in all that time.

[Madton]

4 hours ago, RealTonKid said:

I think one of the factors is due to Inverclyde being a deprived area. We used to offer concessions for people who are unemployed, or on disability allowance. The way I see it, the more people we encourage - the more money in the club’s pocket.

I think even if we made every adult a tenner and every kid free on Sat like Raith did last night,  we'd still struggle to get more than a few hundred extra.

When I think of 3500 home fans against Motherwell and then around 1800 against Airdire,   I struggle to think of a reason why 1700 never came on Saturday.

 

[TONofmemories]

The reality probably Is that the interest just isn't there every second Saturday. No doubt that this team deserve more right enough.

[HamCam]

3 hours ago, Cet Homme Charmant said:

So is Kirkcaldy though, and it's obviously not having a huge impact on Raith.

Inverclyde has been relatively deprived as long as I can remember, even when we were pulling in decent crowds in the late 70s/early80s and early 2000s. I think a bigger factor is depopulation. The current population of Inverclyde is around 75000, whereas 30 years ago it was over 100000. That's a huge reduction in the potential fanbase..

Kirkcaldy has had a lot of new housing and benefits from being within commuting territory for Edinburgh.  It is still a pigsty but one where the local football team have had success in increasing their fanbase.

[Ray Von]

3 hours ago, Madton said:

I think even if we made every adult a tenner and every kid free on Sat like Raith did last night,  we'd still struggle to get more than a few hundred extra.

When I think of 3500 home fans against Motherwell and then around 1800 against Airdire,   I struggle to think of a reason why 1700 never came on Saturday.

 

I was working, that accounts for one of them.

[vikingTON]

13 hours ago, Madton said:

I think even if we made every adult a tenner and every kid free on Sat like Raith did last night,  we'd still struggle to get more than a few hundred extra.

Don't make adult tickets cheap - just hand out free child ticket vouchers like sweeties at every school in the area and get them to guilt-trip their guardians to take them along at full price. 

We should be making greater allowances for low income/unemployed/concessions given both economic reality and the community ownership aspect. We could also make a pitch to 'new Scots' being settled in the area in droves, instead of having them latch on to that piggery in the East end of Glasgow which seems to be the default option. That should be reflected in season ticket options though (discount and installment packages) rather than a walk-up price IMO. That won't suit every person's situation of course, but we're still running a business here and not a charity. 

The best way to secure a growing and sustainable fanbase is to incentivise the habit of getting a season ticket. We've made good progress on that since the takeover but are still years behind most other clubs at this level. 

[Scott]

Did anyone on here go to the night with Oakley & Imrie? If so how was it? 

[The Bewilderedbeast]

1 minute ago, Scott said:

Did anyone on here go to the night with Oakley & Imrie? If so how was it? 

See my post A night with...

[Mr.Blue]

20 hours ago, Scott said:

Did anyone on here go to the night with Oakley & Imrie? If so how was it? 

Brilliant night. Really enjoyed it. Dougie his usual candid self. Think big George was in shock a lot of the time with Tam Cowans questions and patter.

 

[TONofmemories]

Anything said of proper note? A wee bone thrown perhaps RE contract?

[vikingTON]

1 hour ago, Mr.Blue said:

 Think big George was in shock a lot of the time with Tam Cowans questions and patter.

 

Hardly surprising given that Oakley was born in 1995, while Tam Cowan lives permanently trapped in 1974. 

[The Bewilderedbeast]

22 hours ago, TONofmemories said:

Anything said of proper note? A wee bone thrown perhaps RE contract?

Only that some discussions are ongoing with various players.

George himself said he'd not be available to play this week,  but would be for next week. 

[Stevie Aitken's Love Child]

Anyone else going to the Q&A tomorrow night at the Morton Club? I have to admit, I find it odd that questions need to be submitted in advance of the evening, and that they wont be opening up for Q&A on the night. The cynic in me sees that as a way to filter questions that they don't want to answer, but alas I've submitted a questions via the link they provided on the email anyway.

[The Bewilderedbeast]

53 minutes ago, Stevie Aitken's Love Child said:

Anyone else going to the Q&A tomorrow night at the Morton Club? I have to admit, I find it odd that questions need to be submitted in advance of the evening, and that they wont be opening up for Q&A on the night. The cynic in me sees that as a way to filter questions that they don't want to answer, but alas I've submitted a questions via the link they provided on the email anyway.

Likewise,  raised the stewarding issues

[TONofmemories]

https://youtu.be/YN2xbbn0LHs?si=HNRIf_B3WGkBSdk3

[Deego]

1 hour ago, Stevie Aitken's Love Child said:

Anyone else going to the Q&A tomorrow night at the Morton Club? I have to admit, I find it odd that questions need to be submitted in advance of the evening, and that they wont be opening up for Q&A on the night. The cynic in me sees that as a way to filter questions that they don't want to answer, but alas I've submitted a questions via the link they provided on the email anyway.

It could be. Might be.

Might also be a way to:

- answer common themes of questions

- keep a nice running order of those themes (rather than bouncing around subjects)

- keep the session timely while getting through all the questions

- allow the panel to construct their answers properly (hopefully not in a politician-type way, but answering questions properly without the pressure of thinking off the top of their head in front of a live crowd)

- avoid the inevitable, awkward scenario of people not being particularly articulate with their questions

There’s pros to opening it up for questions on the night as well but given the above I’m not being totally cynical about their decision.

[Stevie Aitken's Love Child]

1 hour ago, Deego said:

It could be. Might be.

Might also be a way to:

- answer common themes of questions

- keep a nice running order of those themes (rather than bouncing around subjects)

- keep the session timely while getting through all the questions

- allow the panel to construct their answers properly (hopefully not in a politician-type way, but answering questions properly without the pressure of thinking off the top of their head in front of a live crowd)

- avoid the inevitable, awkward scenario of people not being particularly articulate with their questions

There’s pros to opening it up for questions on the night as well but given the above I’m not being totally cynical about their decision.

All very fair points, and I do agree with you. I think asking for questions in advance, and leaving a little time for Q&A at the end, is probably the happy medium for events like this. 

[Guest capitanus]

On 3/14/2024 at 8:21 PM, TONofmemories said:

Anything said of proper note? A wee bone thrown perhaps RE contract?

Is he teaching religion to Catholic weans?

You do realise you've caused a few folk to have veins in their necks explode with that comment.