capitanus Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 The fact that folk are having a go at Partick over a bit of multicolored piping on an away strip speaks volumes. I don't remember Hearts getting this level of stick for their Save the Children logos. Whenever Rangers have made a nod to similar issues (rainbow laces) the seethe on their Twitter feed has been unbelievable. That tells you all you need to know about taking that "no need" side of the argument. The best way to hound out the knuckle dragging nonsense amplified by the old firm is for the smaller clubs to keep plugging away at a more inclusive approach (although, Partick maybe aren't the best example to use here given their record with sectarian issues). *edit - missing a word Don't get me wrong, I'm not against it one wee bit. In fact, I'm all for it. I find it amusing though. *insert signature here* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitanus Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Palestine and other countries politics are their things atm. Maybe one day Maybe one day they'll admit to their own wrongdoings first. Small steps and all that. *insert signature here* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONofmemories Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 We live in hope. TIME FOR CHANGE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiGi Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Morton would kill for the publicity Partick have been able to generate for themselves the past few years. Yeah not wrong but it justifies cynicism IMO. The below is a more extreme but ultimately correct assessment. Minus the overt homophobia. If there was one club that you would expect to do this kind of publicity-seeking stunt in Scotland, it was bound to be Partick Thistle. Let's face it, they are the club that due to their location in Glasgow's supposedly 'Trendy' West End and their Media-Luvvies/Students/Cosmopolitan status, have always had that stigma about them of being a club for gay males. They won't be ever considered a proper club like the Lanarkshire/Renfrewshire/Fife/Ayrshire clubs or, dare I say it, even the Old Firm, and it's down to the type of people they seem to attract as supporters. They attract all the wierdo's under the sun, whether it's oddball schoolteachers, young guys who are more camp than Simon from Eastenders, Pot noodle munching studenty types with the physical attributes of Junkies and the manky T shirts to match, wankers with Kelvinside accents, or all of the above. Peter Weatherson is the greatest player since Ritchie, and should be assigned 'chairman for life' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitanus Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Yeah not wrong but it justifies cynicism IMO. The below is a more extreme but ultimately correct assessment. Minus the overt homophobia. They have always had a 'stigma' about them being a 'gay' club though. *insert signature here* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_the_builder Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 The fact that folk are having a go at Partick over a bit of multicolored piping on an away strip speaks volumes. I don't remember Hearts getting this level of stick for their Save the Children logos. Whenever Rangers have made a nod to similar issues (rainbow laces) the seethe on their Twitter feed has been unbelievable. That tells you all you need to know about taking that "no need" side of the argument. The best way to hound out the knuckle dragging nonsense amplified by the old firm is for the smaller clubs to keep plugging away at a more inclusive approach (although, Partick maybe aren't the best example to use here given their record with sectarian issues). *edit - missing a word Save the Children is a registered charity so there's no way Hearts could have used their logo without having to make some contribution. What monetary contribution are Partick making to the LGBT community for using their (i'm guessing unregistered) logo? I'm going to put my neck out and hazard a guess at F all! here today, gone to hell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EanieMeany Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 It's a bit opportunistic, but so what? It still makes a point, the only way anything bad can really come of it is if the neanderthals of the country come crawling out from their caves to cause a scene about it. AWMSC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONofmemories Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Ie their own fucking support 😂😂 TIME FOR CHANGE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Von Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 The rainbow is the best bit of the top, it is rotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_M Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 The rainbow is the best bit, the rest of the club is rotten. FTFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alibi Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 If you are gay, are you now expected to wear a rainbow strip/t-shirt/ badge or whatever? I understand why the pride thing has risen to prominence, but this strip looks like a cynical bandwagon-jumping exercise by Thistle. None of the gay people I know are Thistle supporters AFAIK but if they were, I don't think they'd touch this strip with a bargepole. Comes across as a bit patronising - like those M&S LGBT sandwiches containing Lettuce, Guacamole, Bacon and Tomato - cringeworthy marketing at its worst - lucky they thought of guacamole or it would probably have had some guava shoehorned in there. I thought we had reached the stage where gay people were just people, but clearly not - they are now people who can be targeted by cynical marketing campaigns to they to sell them stuff they didn't actually know they wanted. "Any nation given the opportunity to regain its national sovereignty and which then rejects it is so far beneath contempt that it is hard to put words to it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONofmemories Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Well said Alibi. IMO, booting the arse right out it will do more harm than good. Let them be and let them be happy without parading them like the FA cup. TIME FOR CHANGE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
port-ton Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 It's about raising awareness and trying to help normalise and support gay culture in a prodominantly unforgiving environment of football, not about trying to get floods of gay people to suddenly start attending games at firhill every second Saturday with their new Partick Thistle strip. Of course they've probably done this with the main idea being they will receive free press in the mainstream media, but they're hardly trying to exploit gay people out of their hard earned cash. Good people will do good things, bad people will do bad things, but only with religion do good people do bad things! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_M Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 If you are gay, are you now expected to wear a rainbow strip/t-shirt/ badge or whatever? I understand why the pride thing has risen to prominence, but this strip looks like a cynical bandwagon-jumping exercise by Thistle. None of the gay people I know are Thistle supporters AFAIK but if they were, I don't think they'd touch this strip with a bargepole. Comes across as a bit patronising - like those M&S LGBT sandwiches containing Lettuce, Guacamole, Bacon and Tomato - cringeworthy marketing at its worst - lucky they thought of guacamole or it would probably have had some guava shoehorned in there. I thought we had reached the stage where gay people were just people, but clearly not - they are now people who can be targeted by cynical marketing campaigns to they to sell them stuff they didn't actually know they wanted. Get some GMFC sandwiches on the go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoon Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 The reaction to it is evidence enough of why things like it need to happen. Until it’s met with a shrug of the shoulders by most people, and not uproar, it’s needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EanieMeany Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 The reaction to it is evidence enough of why things like it need to happen. Until it’s met with a shrug of the shoulders by most people, and not uproar, it’s needed. Yep, exactly. AWMSC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_the_builder Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 It's about raising awareness and trying to help normalise and support gay culture in a prodominantly unforgiving environment of football, not about trying to get floods of gay people to suddenly start attending games at firhill every second Saturday with their new Partick Thistle strip. Of course they've probably done this with the main idea being they will receive free press in the mainstream media, but they're hardly trying to exploit gay people out of their hard earned cash. I agree with you that raising awareness is absolutely needed but many of you are missing the point. Thistle could easily have done this in other ways eg by flying an LGBT flag above the stadium, or by freeing up some advertising boards around the ground and donating them to LGBT charities. Sticking the rainbow on a strip that they expect people to shell out £40-£50 a pop at is shameless profiteering of an important cause. If Thistle came out with a statement to the effect that a % of shirt sales will be donated to LGBT charities then fair play I'd commend them for that, but they haven't here today, gone to hell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONofmemories Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Which of course they probably would have if they had any real intentions of doing so. Instead, they've created a small media storm which has done some sort of job for them whilst profiting from it without actually doing much. Horrible club. TIME FOR CHANGE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irnbru Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 If you are gay, are you now expected to wear a rainbow strip/t-shirt/ badge or whatever? I understand why the pride thing has risen to prominence, but this strip looks like a cynical bandwagon-jumping exercise by Thistle. None of the gay people I know are Thistle supporters AFAIK but if they were, I don't think they'd touch this strip with a bargepole. Comes across as a bit patronising - like those M&S LGBT sandwiches containing Lettuce, Guacamole, Bacon and Tomato - cringeworthy marketing at its worst - lucky they thought of guacamole or it would probably have had some guava shoehorned in there. I thought we had reached the stage where gay people were just people, but clearly not - they are now people who can be targeted by cynical marketing campaigns to they to sell them stuff they didn't actually know they wanted. We've definitely not reached that stage. The lack of openly gay footballers and the reaction to this proves that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 It's a bit opportunistic, but so what? It still makes a point, the only way anything bad can really come of it is if the neanderthals of the country come crawling out from their caves to cause a scene about it. It’s because their support is riddled with prejudice regarding faith yet they’ve continued to ignore it (publicly at least) and are now jumping onto a hot topic in order to make themselves look progressive, forward thinking and open to all, when in actual fact that couldn’t be further from the truth. Absolutely rotten to the core. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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