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They can’t surely think it’s acceptable to stream every home game with that camera quality. It’s absolutely woeful and I certainly won’t be paying to watch it. If we don’t have someone capable then there must be loads of film students desperate for a bit of experience. It’s not an ideal scenario but one that would give the paying customer a deservedly better product. 

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18 minutes ago, Scott said:

They can’t surely think it’s acceptable to stream every home game with that camera quality. It’s absolutely woeful and I certainly won’t be paying to watch it. If we don’t have someone capable then there must be loads of film students desperate for a bit of experience. It’s not an ideal scenario but one that would give the paying customer a deservedly better product. 

Wouldn't have had an issue with the quality but the operation of the camera was a farce.

I did wonder why for the live test, they used s smaller area of the pitch either side of the centre circle. Obviously didn't test the could actually see the whole pitch. Moronic.

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We weren't alone in having problems as some of the Pixellot streams didn't work.

Other clubs though...

 

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20 minutes ago, Jamie_M said:

We weren't alone in having problems as some of the Pixellot streams didn't work.

Other clubs though...

 

They'll know who both of them are, and they'll refund them.  :lol:


Life is a series of compromises anyway.

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6 hours ago, Jamie_M said:

Yes, it's split.

Wonder if they are due their split before or after refunds?

Also, I am sure it is a breach of the rules to just bang it on free play on YouTube. Did we get that cleared before doing it?

Nearly 3000 people watching at one point, significantly more than would have paid. Banter if Morton have to treat them all as paying customers and pay out to QOS on that basis (like clubs who are giving a freebie to season ticket holders).

No idea of the impact of youtube on that, but yeah it's the usual cup rules where the away club receives 40% of the income.

At least we'll make money out of the St Mirren and Partick home supports, because no away fan is going to be buying a stream from Morton again after last night until they issue a grovelling apology, a full refund, an explanation of why this happened, how they'll prevent it happening again then successfully demonstrate a working stream with vastly superior camera work to last night. Even if the the website itself had worked without a hitch, fans would be entirely in their rights to be asking the question over refunds with a camera that couldn't see the whole pitch and missed two goals. No Morton fan should be giving them a penny either until all of the above has been done.

If the club genuinely intend to avoid giving out refunds here, they have absolutely no grasp of the reputational damage they've caused themselves.

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A minor point in this bourach: Why does the camera have to be located so far back? Surely it could be more level with the posts so that it could pan right round to the corners without the posts blocking the view. They might even try putting up a temporary platform, especially as there are no spectators and presumably no directors in the directors box. If that camera was manually operated, what was the problem with never panning to the corner at the Sinclair St end? Why could they not get the touch line in? It was as if the camera was a robot camera that got fooled by the posts. How they even missed 2 goals was comical.

Mckinnon seems to find such incompetence acceptable. Maybe helps explain the Ramsbottom signing.

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From today's Tele. 

'We're a football club, we're not technical Internet gurus'

Wow. 

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You address me by my proper title, you little bollocks! 


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I'm more angry now having read those two statements.

It's almost as if there's not intelligent fans within our ranks who don't know anything about this kind of thing...

That's a slap in the face that is.

And if you're reading, Morton (i know you are), i wont be purchasing a season ticket any longer. Petty perhaps? But, this is the final straw.

Cunts. 


TIME FOR CHANGE!

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Just like predicted last night - switching the blame to the cameras as opposed to the fundamental issue of website traffic and its ability to handle it... classic

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TIME FOR CHANGE!

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I have no idea how likely it was, but you'd think the way the club has conducted itself over the last few days has surely ended any prospect of MacKinnon keeping his job once MCT take over. There was maybe an argument to be made for an element of continuity with someone with prior experience of running a football club and wasn't associated with the full gamut of failures of the last 20 years hanging around, rather than having a whole team of people with no experience parachuted in at once, but there's really no denying at this point that the club needs a full clearout of people in senior positions to try to dismantle the culture of incompetence and failure.

I have no doubt that MacKinnon is genuinely trying hard, and we're in unprecedented times for football clubs just now. That makes his job extremely difficult and no one can deny that, but that simply doesn't excuse the mess we've made here. Having issues with a stream is one thing, compounding it by showing utter contempt for the fanbase whose goodwill is the only thing keeping the club afloat is another entirely.

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3 hours ago, dunning1874 said:

At least we'll make money out of the St Mirren and Partick home supports.

Not really St Mirren as it's on TV so not streamed.

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2 minutes ago, Jamie_M said:

Not really St Mirren as it's on TV so not streamed.

Can't clubs stream it despite it also being on TV? Didn't Hearts stream their game last night? 


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57 minutes ago, BishopLenBrennan said:

Scandalous statements. 

Your website failed, because you are incompetent.

The footage was inadequate, because you are incompetent.

People deserve refunds, because you are incompetent.

I know they tested the Pixellot camera internally and decided against it. But to not test the viewing Angles of the replacement camera or siting it in the one place that it was obstructed so much, incompetent.

Add to that not s single reference of the QOS supporters who were extra hard done by as they missed both of their goals.

Goodwill over Morton. Don't expect a penny unless you fight to earn it, which you never do.

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2 minutes ago, BishopLenBrennan said:

Can't clubs stream it despite it also being on TV? Didn't Hearts stream their game last night? 

Don't know about Hearts, but the agreement with Premier Sports is that games can be streamed except those they are showing.

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4 minutes ago, Jamie_M said:

Not really St Mirren as it's on TV so not streamed.

Aye, right enough.

Not to worry, I'm sure Morton will address the entirely justified concerns of both Morton fans and fans of every other club in the Championship about the quality of our streaming and we'll rake it in throughout the season.


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Even taking into account the St. Mirren game being on the telly, it’ll be them and Partick who stream their own home games, with us getting our cut, as per the rules (assuming the same rules apply for streaming as fans turning up to watch the game).

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1 hour ago, BishopLenBrennan said:

From today's Tele. 

'We're a football club, we're not technical Internet gurus'

Wow. 

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Whoever said this to the Tele should be putting their name to it, especially as there's a 100% chance it came from the chief executive. 


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3 hours ago, dunning1874 said:

No idea of the impact of youtube on that, but yeah it's the usual cup rules where the away club receives 40% of the income.

At least we'll make money out of the St Mirren and Partick home supports, because no away fan is going to be buying a stream from Morton again after last night

This match is on Premier TV which is a subscription channel. Not sure if they offer day passes, couldn't see that option when I viewed their terms after they confirmed they would show the game.

Don't  know the contract terms, but are Sky not allowing home supporters, maybe just season ticket holders, to stream. Will at least be professional camera work.

So you pay your money and take you chances, must turn out better than tonight though they might think of getting Andy on their team.

 

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'Several problems'...understatement of the year.

And the second part of that sentence ('we were able to transfer'...'not an ideal option') seems to suggest that they feel they were still able to provide the service, therefore no refunds.

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Those statements are somehow worse than I could’ve imagined. Both were cobbled together pretty much right after kick off, and I’d hoped they’d see sense overnight and realise how both just make things worse. Nope. We have actually made the situation worse and pissed people off even more. Clown car outfit.

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