Morton Club Together Updates

[port-ton]

40 minutes ago, capitanus said:

Suggesting Barry Ferguson is something else too.

We can discuss it at the fan parade when Tony Docherty is appointed. 

[Guest capitanus]

1 minute ago, port-ton said:

We can discuss it at the fan parade when Tony Docherty is appointed. 

We both know that is unlikely to happen, however your suggestion is not far off the complete brain donor suggestion of "Muck Hoist" that gets banded about anytime this job has come up recently.

[port-ton]

1 minute ago, capitanus said:

We both know that is unlikely to happen, however your suggestion is not far off the complete brain donor suggestion of "Muck Hoist" that gets banded about anytime this job has come up recently.

Oh well, it was just an opinion. Not going to lose any sleep over it. Won't be the last time i have a stupid opinion. 

[Guest capitanus]

3 minutes ago, port-ton said:

Oh well, it was just an opinion. Not going to lose any sleep over it. Won't be the last time i have a stupid opinion. 

Good.  Glad you realise this.

 

Next.

[TRVMP]

There's a few Falkirk fans on P&B who seem convinced that Rice is going there, not Cappielow.

[BishopBrennan]

Just now, TRVMP said:

There's a few Falkirk fans on P&B who seem convinced that Rice is going there, not Cappielow.

[port-ton]

Fuck off. If true I can't believe theyve stolen another manager from us. 

 

Teehee. 

[TRVMP]

I'm not anti-Rice on an interim basis but I'm more pro-the board figuring out what the hell they're doing than focusing on who gets the job.

[Toby]

On 10/27/2021 at 5:47 PM, Toby said:

I've got some concerns surrounding last night's match that I think are worth looking into.

First of all, a boy I was speaking to had got a comp from someone at the club before kick off and was refused entry at the Cowshed turnstiles and told he had to sit in the stand, before returning to the ticket kiosk and get it swapped for one that would get him into the shed.

A couple of issues with this- I get that it's the done thing in football, and I've benefitted in the past and will probably benefit at some point in the future from this. But the club's owners are shelling out £245 a season/£20 a game to watch Morton, whilst players/officials' pals are getting in for hee haw, whilst the club pleads poverty. Perhaps limiting this might go some way to improving the bank balance?

And also, if you're going to give out free tickets for a game in a ground which is 20% full, is there any need to be so stringent with segregating fans who support the same club? It only goes to piss off fans and comes across as if the club are deliberately going out their way to make things difficult for folk. There's no need.

I was more concerned however with the stewarding towards the segregation fences in the Cowshed though. It was great to see so many weans at the game, and particularly because so many of them were cutting about in the Joma Morton trackie tops. Possibly a sign of the club's community work bearing fruit. However, at one point in the first half, a young lad, no more than 11 years old, was frog marched past me by a steward, with his pals in tow protesting his innocence or begging for leniency. The pals returned, but not the boy who was the subject of the steward's attention. I don't doubt the kid was probably misbehaving, but what actually happened to him? Was he taken to a quieter part of the ground and supervised by a steward? This would appear to be a pointless waste of resources for a pretty harmless wee kid. Were his parents contacted to collect him? Or, was he ejected from the ground and forced to fend for himself? I certainly hope it wasn't the latter, but suspect it may well be.

Of course I've got no issues with adults being ejected if they can't behave themselves, but if I were the parent of a kid that was flung onto the street alone on a dark, rainy Tuesday night in October, I'd be wanting answers.

Just to re-visit this, as I was entering the ground yesterday, a couple of guys were trying to get into the terrace with stand tickets, and were spoken to like the shit off the steward’s shoe for having the temerity to want to enter the wrong gate.

I get (but don’t agree with) the segregation policy, but regardless of whether these folk are paying or not, there was absolutely no need for the way they were treated. In fairness to the leader of their party, he showed pretty admirable restraint, I thought for a second he was about to knock her block off, and tbh, she couldn’t have complained too much if he had.

I get that stewarding is a frustrating job, and customer service at the moment is grim (most will know I do it myself for a living, so have my sympathies) but there’s absolutely no need to treat fans the way she did.

With the club investigating a fan’s conduct towards Lithgow at Raith the other week, they could also do with looking a bit closer to home in how their employees (direct or indirect) are treating their customers.

[The Bewilderedbeast]

16 minutes ago, Toby said:

Just to re-visit this, as I was entering the ground yesterday, a couple of guys were trying to get into the terrace with stand tickets, and were spoken to like the shit off the steward’s shoe for having the temerity to want to enter the wrong gate.

I get (but don’t agree with) the segregation policy, but regardless of whether these folk are paying or not, there was absolutely no need for the way they were treated. In fairness to the leader of their party, he showed pretty admirable restraint, I thought for a second he was about to knock her block off, and tbh, she couldn’t have complained too much if he had.

I get that stewarding is a frustrating job, and customer service at the moment is grim (most will know I do it myself for a living, so have my sympathies) but there’s absolutely no need to treat fans the way she did.

With the club investigating a fan’s conduct towards Lithgow at Raith the other week, they could also do with looking a bit closer to home in how their employees (direct or indirect) are treating their customers.

On a similar note, I've witnessed a female steward at the Cowshed turnstiles speaking to kids in a similar manner.

On Saturday there were two boys about 12/13 trying to pay in at the turnstiles, the female rats rightly pointed them in the direction of the ticket office. As the boys turned to head up the street she called them back and lectured them about behaving themselves or they'd be barred.

Not the way to encourage young supporters back.

[Toby]

4 hours ago, The Bewilderedbeast said:

On a similar note, I've witnessed a female steward at the Cowshed turnstiles speaking to kids in a similar manner.

On Saturday there were two boys about 12/13 trying to pay in at the turnstiles, the female rats rightly pointed them in the direction of the ticket office. As the boys turned to head up the street she called them back and lectured them about behaving themselves or they'd be barred.

Not the way to encourage young supporters back.

If that was yesterday, then the chances are it was the same woman. I’m sure most folk will know the female steward that marches about the Cowshed like a little Hitler every week but this was another that I don’t remember ever seeing before. An absolute battle axe of a woman, who’s simply not suited to a role facing the general public.

Your point about her telling the weans they’ll be barred interests me- it’s simply not her decision to make. Pipe down, do your job and make their day out at the football as enjoyable as it possibly can be by treating them with a bit of respect and giving them professional customer service.

[Madton]

There's clearly an issue here as I've witnessed it recently too. Acting like teachers in detention. They spend half the match chasing wee boys about and moving them away from the front of the cowshed/Sinclair Street. 

Begs the question, why are kids not allowed to stand at the front anymore? It was part of my childhood  growing up, standing right behind the goal at Sinclair Street. As soon as a kid goes anywhere near it, stewards are there shouting at them like a Hitler youth rally. 

Just let them enjoy their day (as long as they are not being disruptive), last thing we need is putting kids off coming to games.

Edited December 6, 2021 by Madton

[The Bewilderedbeast]

4 minutes ago, Madton said:

There's clearly an issue here as I've witnessed it recently too. Acting like teachers in detention. They spend half the match chasing wee boys about and moving them away from the front of the cowshed/Sinclair Street. 

Begs the question, why are kids not aloud to stand at the front anymore? It was part of my childhood  growing up, standing right behind the goal at Sinclair Street. As soon as a kid goes anywhere near it, stewards are there shouting at them like a Hitler youth rally. 

Just let them enjoy their day (as long as they are not being disruptive), last thing we need is putting kids off coming to games.

More than likely a health and safety directive in case they're hit with the ball ( I know you could be similarly hit no matter where you're standing)

In my day, you could stand against the wall as long as you didn't sit on it, or have your legs dangling pitch side of it.

[Mr.Blue]

The steward's are useless and so inconsistent. They pick and choose when to carry out their duties and when asked about this their usual replies are 'am only daein ma job' or 'its health and safety.' Heard it numerous times when asked by myself and others.

[dmcewan16]

Im all for getting as many people into the ground as possible and agree as long as there is no problems being caused then let it be. If under 12’s are turning up without adults them maybe we should create an area for them like the far end of cowshed next to the wee dublin end.

[vikingTON]

11 hi-vis jobsworths currently guarding against the perilous threat to public order of, err, a bunch of wee guys giving the Inverness keeper pelters behind the goal. 

The club's provision for hiring these absolute charlatans should be fucking slashed, now. 

[The Bewilderedbeast]

If the club don't want unaccompanied under 16's in the stadium then why are they selling them tickets and then not allowing them unaccompanied access?

Surely there should be some system where a juvenile ticket(s) can only be sold with the purchase of an adult ticket.

[Toby]

1 hour ago, The Bewilderedbeast said:

If the club don't want unaccompanied under 16's in the stadium then why are they selling them tickets and then not allowing them unaccompanied access?

Surely there should be some system where a juvenile ticket(s) can only be sold with the purchase of an adult ticket.

Either that or the club and security staff suck it up, accept kids will be kids and let them enjoy themselves without being treated like they’re trouble when all they really are is boisterous and excitable, which is exactly what you’d expect kids of that age to be.

[TRVMP]

Most of those kids are there for a laugh with their mates and will drift away as they get older and discover girls and the "PlaysTation" and the fentanyl and whatever else the youth of today are into. A small number of absolute sadacts, though, will carry their love for the 'Ton into young adulthood and well beyond. It is on these young losers' shoulders that we place our hopes for the future, and by God if a single one of them is inconvenienced by some jobsworth with a walkie-talkie then there's going to be hell to pay.

[Jamie_M]