gmfc23 Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 40 minutes ago, WhowouldbeaMortonfan said: And then what, more bluster and allegations. For fear of repeating masel again......we're past all that and none of the above is going to make an ounce of difference. I No more anything let Crawford and GC drown in the shit they've created. Withdraw all funding with immediate effect I'm sure him n his fkn GC board might start playing ball. If not let the more lucrative third party if they even existed step in n take the shit deal he's offering. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irnbru Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 4 hours ago, cmdc said: Wasn’t the March 2021 deadline about an agreement that MCT were financially viable owners (at which point, if not, there was a delay mechanism) rather than the point at which ownership changed hands? That’s how I read the original announcement. He said he wasn't taking to you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LargsTON Posted February 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 19, 2021 (edited) 37 minutes ago, gmfc23 said: No more anything let Crawford and GC drown in the shit they've created. Withdraw all funding with immediate effect I'm sure him n his fkn GC board might start playing ball. If not let the more lucrative third party if they even existed step in n take the shit deal he's offering. Agreed. I'll be honest, I'd rather kiss goodbye to the club I love than watch it being raped by the Rae family and suffering either a pitiful existence or a slow agonising death. Edited February 19, 2021 by LargsTON 3 "CORNBEEF IS A BELLEND" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRVMP Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 51 minutes ago, gmfc23 said: No more anything let Crawford and GC drown in the shit they've created. Withdraw all funding with immediate effect I'm sure him n his fkn GC board might start playing ball. If not let the more lucrative third party if they even existed step in n take the shit deal he's offering. MCT said they were involved in that third party chat, which to me lends a bit more credence to it. 22 minutes ago, irnbru said: He said he wasn't taking to you. Life's too short not to extend the possibility of redemption. I will go back on my word and engage on points of substance. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cet Homme Charmant Posted February 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 20, 2021 11 hours ago, WhowouldbeaMortonfan said: If none of the options presented are satisfactory, given all of the time that has passed, you must have another option. Why else would anyone suggest that there is something better coming up Sinclair Street and is going save the day....It's just not going to happen. Why must you have another option? If MCT tell Crawford, sorry, after consulting the fanbase neither option is acceptable, the ball is then firmly in GC's court. They're the ones desperate to get out remember. It's like when you buy a car and you know the seller is desperate to get rid of it, you're going to use that to your advantage when negotiating. Same here. MCT are in a far stronger negotiating position than GC, but I'm not sure they realise that. And why do you assume nothing better will come along? We were informed a financially better offer was rejected last summer. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Partridge_Ton Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 I was the one who made an offer to buy Morton last year, and it was rejected. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRVMP Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 3 hours ago, Alan_Partridge_Ton said: I was the one who made an offer to buy Morton last year, and it was rejected. A return to your sporting roots. Thtriker! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Partridge_Ton Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 55 minutes ago, TRVMP said: A return to your sporting roots. Thtriker! Abso-bloody-exactly. I drove to Cappielow in my bare feet. I presented Crawford with a bucketful of money that has been in my possession since 2009. I found it in the back of a taxi after a night out on the ladyboys. He didn’t take it well, he looked rather pail! In the end he decided to go with the MCT guy ‘cos he’d been a lifelong Morton fan since 2019. Shit happens! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TONofmemories Posted February 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 20, 2021 On 2/19/2021 at 2:36 AM, WhowouldbeaMortonfan said: So the fans have spoken and according to the Administrator, 80 odd percent prefer the 3rd option which is...what. Consider this option It would not be unreasonable to assume, maybe CR will simply say F*CKIT, I'm losing money hand over fist and no end in sight. Best thing for me is to shut the doors and let whoever wants to deal with it deal with it. As far as everything else goes after that, well its on them not me. If he does decide to do that, well we would be well and truly F'd. Lets be honest, end of this season, no-one on the payroll and no-one to lookout for or consider, just how hard would it be to close the place down? A lot easier than CR is getting it now. I really don't think anyone who is shouting for the 3rd option, really knows what to expect after the "deal" is done. How would you propose funding the season? How about all of the up front payments just to get the club prepared for next season...........Where is the money coming from? The club is on life-support and we really need to rely on MCT to get us the best deal possible. Now before I start getting sh*te from the usual folks, I'm simply stating an option that is available to CR. If the club was in any other business, the shutters would have been pulled down a long time ago. Ponder this though, no fans, no commercial activity, no TV, sponsorship threatened, no income....who in their right mind would want to own a football club. We're all scunnered with the situation. IMO the bottom line is we either agree to either of the options presented or walk permanently away. You're simply talking shite. Again. 1 3 TIME FOR CHANGE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONofmemories Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 I note the Easdales have a portfolio worth 750mil, according to latest press reports. Wouldn't it be nice for them to buy the stadium, gift it to MCT and hail themselves as heroes forever more. Gives us a chance at starting a fresh, debt free. Fantasy stuff i know 1 TIME FOR CHANGE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LargsTON Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 So what will be MCTs next move? Inform GC what the views of the fans are and that the two deals aren't in any way acceptable or plough on irrespective? 1 "CORNBEEF IS A BELLEND" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogs49 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 39 minutes ago, LargsTON said: So what will be MCTs next move? Inform GC what the views of the fans are and that the two deals aren't in any way acceptable or plough on irrespective? It's all spelt out here https://mortonclubtogether.com/2021/02/19/mct-consultation-survey-update/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_M Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 1 hour ago, LargsTON said: So what will be MCTs next move? Inform GC what the views of the fans are and that the two deals aren't in any way acceptable or plough on irrespective? Haven't seen anything to suggest they aren't still under the spell of GC, happy with the 2 options and that they won't proceed with one of the options anyway. Their poll, giving just 2 options, will likely have a preferred choice despite the anecdotal feedback that they will probably run with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Partridge_Ton Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 43 minutes ago, Jamie_M said: Haven't seen anything to suggest they aren't still under the spell of GC, happy with the 2 options and that they won't proceed with one of the options anyway. Their poll, giving just 2 options, will likely have a preferred choice despite the anecdotal feedback that they will probably run with. Correct. They’ll have already decided how they plan to proceed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Partridge_Ton Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 On 2/17/2021 at 11:20 PM, TheGoon said: Side point, but as someone else raised the other day, that MCT statement leaping to the defence of the Raes really irked me. I understand they have to maintain working relationships for the next few months, but the language of the thing and tone towards supporters that weren’t sure if their club was about to go under really were not great. Not a knock on MCT’s overall communication, which has largely been good, but I’m still quite annoyed by the whole “How dare you” feel of that statement. ‘Any comparison with the stewardship of Hugh Scott is both inaccurate and deeply offensive.‘ Not my words, the words of MCT! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cet Homme Charmant Posted February 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 21, 2021 (edited) 19 hours ago, Boogs49 said: It's all spelt out here https://mortonclubtogether.com/2021/02/19/mct-consultation-survey-update/ Here's hoping they see sense and call GC's bluff by ditching both options, otherwise we'll have the sword of Damocles hanging over us until the inevitable day that.... GC sell Cappielow (option 1). This would probably see us moving to Ravenscraig and becoming a Lowland League perma-diddy club. or GC charge a commercial rent on expiry of the initial one-pound-per-week lease (option 1). This would maybe allow us to stumble along in the lower leagues (ref Clyde and Airdrie), until they exercise the first outcome above. or GC call in their outstanding debt (option 2). This would mean certain administration and possible liquidation. Now if MCT can secure watertight legally binding assurances that none of the above can happen in perpetuity, then fair fucks to them, that would be quite an achievement. But without such assurances they need to reject both options out of hand. Edited February 22, 2021 by Cet Homme Charmant 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cet Homme Charmant Posted March 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 6, 2021 Moving forward, if MCT want to retain any sort of credibility and respect in the ongoing negotiations on the transfer of ownership of the club, they must resign their positions on the current board, with immediate effect. Then, and only then, can they enter into negotiations with integrity, and completely independent from the current incumbents of our once proud club. Because at the moment, while they have seats on the board, they're part of the problem, and not the solution. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LargsTON Posted March 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 6, 2021 7 minutes ago, Cet Homme Charmant said: Moving forward, if MCT want to retain any sort of credibility and respect in the ongoing negotiations on the transfer of ownership of the club, they must resign their positions on the current board, with immediate effect. Then, and only then, can they enter into negotiations with integrity, and completely independent from the current incumbents of our once proud club. Because at the moment, while they have seats on the board, they're part of the problem, and not the solution. Correct. As posted by Russell elsewhere, they should be withdrawing their offer immediately and back Rae into a corner. I've zero faith in MCT I'm afraid and as this saga continues to unfold my decision to withhold from converting my pledge seems the correct decision, even moreso when you see the way the budget has been pissed up the wall on dross. 3 "CORNBEEF IS A BELLEND" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cet Homme Charmant Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 1 minute ago, LargsTON said: Correct. As posted by Russell elsewhere, they should be withdrawing their offer immediately and back Rae into a corner. I've zero faith in MCT I'm afraid and as this saga continues to unfold my decision to withhold from converting my pledge seems the correct decision, even moreso when you see the way the budget has been pissed up the wall on dross. I have no doubt that MCT are well intentioned. None whatsoever. But they've went about this whole transfer of ownership negotiation with an astonishing level of naively, IMO. They should have separated themselves completely from the current incumbents until the negotiations were completed and a final legally binding watertight agreement, with the safeguards I described above, was signed and sealed. You don't sit around the same board table with the people you're negotiating with! Jesus wept. They've went from having the upper hand, it's Crawford who's desperate to get out remember, to dolefully accepting whatever scraps he threw at them. And make no mistake, both options Crawford's put on the table are scraps that should be rejected without hesitation, instead of holding a 'fan poll' which is akin to asking the condemned man if he wants to be hung or electrocuted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 (edited) I can understand the logic behind taking seats on the board with a view to taking over: MCT's current directors aren't football administrators, getting a sense of how the club works (and much more importantly, how it quite clearly doesn't) is preferable to being blindsided by the complete bin fire left behind by the Raes on June 1 or whenever. The risk however is that MCT's ability to scrutinise is emasculated and it is no help to them that GC are all but ripping the copper wiring out of the walls around them, in their obsession with cashing in on their daddy's IOUs. I wouldn't go as far to say that they must resign their board posts. I think that MCT does have to make (yet another) statement indicating their disapproval of the state of the club and GC's completely unacceptable options on the table. If they feel that they cannot do this while keeping representation on the board then they must absolutely pull the plug on the latter, because I don't see how the current downward spiral is sustainable until the end of the season without dragging down the current leadership of MCT with it. Edited March 6, 2021 by vikingTON 2 The site is supposed to be a place for the extended 'family' of Morton supporters - having an affinity with people that you don't know, because you share a love of your local football club. It's not supposed to be about point scoring and showing how 'clever' or 'funny' you are, or just being downright rude and offensive to people you don't know, because you can get away with it. Unfortunately, it seems the classic case of people who have little standing/presence in real life, use this forum as a way of making themselves feel as if they are something. It's sad, and I've said that before.. So, having been on Morton forums for about 15 years I guess, I've had enough... well done t*ssers, another Morton supporter driven away. You can all feel happy at how 'clever' you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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