2024/25 Squad and Transfers

[Guest capitanus]

11 hours ago, Jamie_M said:

Ah yes.

Morton academy graduate Alan Lithgow who was freed and went on to bigger things.

I thought you just meant a decision that the club would come to regret:

On 1/17/2025 at 4:21 PM, Jamie_M said:

last such player where the decision actually haunted the club?

 

[TRVMP]

2 hours ago, capitanus said:

I thought you just meant a decision that the club would come to regret:

 

It's time to let it go.

[dunning1874]

9 hours ago, capitanus said:

I thought you just meant a decision that the club would come to regret:

 

What was the actual negative consequence to the club in the long term? While he was here there were some casual fans who wouldn't attend, and as an aside he was also a rubbish footballer prior to Imrie taking over, but anyone who was staying away because of him is now attending games again. It seems the only person actually bothered by it in 2025 is you, who was already averaging about one game every three seasons anyway, so there's no actual impact on the club to give them cause to regret it.

[Jamie_M]

11 hours ago, capitanus said:

I thought you just meant a decision that the club would come to regret:

 

 

11 hours ago, capitanus said:

I thought you just meant a decision that the club would come to regret:

 

So ignoring the context of the conversation.

[Guest capitanus]

On 1/19/2025 at 12:32 PM, Jamie_M said:

 

So ignoring the context of the conversation.

Pretty much, aye.

 

Next.

[Guest capitanus]

On 1/19/2025 at 10:18 AM, dunning1874 said:

What was the actual negative consequence to the club in the long term? While he was here there were some casual fans who wouldn't attend, and as an aside he was also a rubbish footballer prior to Imrie taking over, but anyone who was staying away because of him is now attending games again. It seems the only person actually bothered by it in 2025 is you, who was already averaging about one game every three seasons anyway, so there's no actual impact on the club to give them cause to regret it.

What was the actual consequence of knowingly signing a convicted sex offender?  Morton had become a nonce club through choice.  That was a fucking disgraceful thing for our custodians to inflict upon the support.  What is more disturbing than that was the amount of people amongst the Morton support who were quite comfortable about it too.  What kind of message does that send out to the rest of Scottish Football, or Scotland as a whole, about our club?   What kind of precident does it set?  Does it lower the bar for standards that we should expect from a player or club official - which in Morton's case wasn't exactly the highest to begin with.  Also, the lack of actual impact was a result of apathy amongst the supporters, coupled with the fact that it happened during the COVID era and fans were locked out and there was another higher profile beast playing football at the time, and there was no celebrity supporter to voice opposition; but to say there was no actual impact was wide of the mark.  It was a disgraceful episode for our club.

ETA: regarding your comments about me only attending once every three seasons - I didn't realise I was there so often. It was nice of you to notice though.  

 

Edited January 20 by capitanus

[Ashman]

Is there any transfer rumours? I’d like to see at least one new addition to the squad 

[TONofmemories]

1 hour ago, capitanus said:

What was the actual consequence of knowingly signing a convicted sex offender?  Morton had become a nonce club through choice.  That was a fucking disgraceful thing for our custodians to inflict upon the support.  What is more disturbing than that was the amount of people amongst the Morton support who were quite comfortable about it too.  What kind of message does that send out to the rest of Scottish Football, or Scotland as a whole, about our club?   What kind of precident does it set?  Does it lower the bar for standards that we should expect from a player or club official - which in Morton's case wasn't exactly the highest to begin with.  Also, the lack of actual impact was a result of apathy amongst the supporters, coupled with the fact that it happened during the COVID era and fans were locked out and there was another higher profile beast playing football at the time, and there was no celebrity supporter to voice opposition; but to say there was no actual impact was wide of the mark.  It was a disgraceful episode for our club.

ETA: regarding your comments about me only attending once every three seasons - I didn't realise I was there so often. It was nice of you to notice though.  

 

I've no idea here, tbh, but what is your position on Morton? I've known you quite some time and always found you to be a great laugh. Lately, you seem to just be getting to boot in? 

 

I thought you wanted your account banished? 

Edited January 20 by TONofmemories

[ConTon74]

26 minutes ago, Ashman said:

Is there any transfer rumours? I’d like to see at least one new addition to the squad 

No new incomings from what I’ve heard which is a bit concerning 

[Guest capitanus]

39 minutes ago, TONofmemories said:

I've no idea here, tbh, but what is your position on Morton? I've known you quite some time and always found you to be a great laugh. Lately, you seem to just be getting to boot in? 

 

I thought you wanted your account banished? 

I havent really been on much lately to get the boot in?

For years it was a strained relationship with Morton, as in the club itself, but that was the straw that broke the camel back right there.  I would much sooner the club was relegated than have a cunt like that in the team. I would even have the club face administration or be saddled with the crippling debts owed to the Rae family rather than become a nonce outfit.  The reason being is you can recover from those kind of things, and we would have done too.  However, you only need one nonce in your club to become forever tainted.  And to knowingly do so is much worse again.  For all of the historic sex offenders that have been in Scottish football, and there were many - I genuinely believe that NONE of those clubs would have hired those characters if they knew exactly what they were up to - but Morton were fully cognizant of his background and yet they still signed him.  That is beyond dreadful.  And to make matters worse they refused to address any of the supporters concerns at the time.

It goes to show what the new incumbents on the board actually thought of the Morton support, that we would accept any old shite as a player as long as he wears the blue hoops.  That just doesn't sit right with me.   Its bad enough that we get places in the team raffled off to rich guys to buy their sons a football career; It's bad enough that we sign ex-pro's who can't get their head around they're past it; It's also bad enough we let Jai Quitongo back in the club.  

Anyway, there are still a lot of Morton supporters that I like very much, yourself included - and I will probably look out for their score, and when asked i'd probably say Morton were my team - however I perhaps more of a former supporter than an actual supporter now, and I can live with it.

They can all give me as many red dots as they like now, I'm beyond caring.

[Ferguson]

9 hours ago, ConTon74 said:

No new incomings from what I’ve heard which is a bit concerning 

There’s always a couple of outcasts from lower-Premiership teams that become available in the last week or so of January, Charlie Telfer a likely candidate this year, wouldn’t count a lack of rumours for much at this stage. 

[Toby]

At this stage, while we’re not out the woods yet at the bottom end of the table, rather than short-term re-enforcements, I’d be more keen to see what plan the club have to tie up those out of contract players for next season, notably Wilson and Mullen.

After the disaster of last summer, hopefully moves are being made to prevent anything like that happening again.

[RossMcC1874]

Hopefully some depth up front and maybe even in midfield or full back might be looked at. 

It's been a minging month financially you would imagine with no games even though a few players have left. 

Getting a few players signed up for next season is also not a bad shout particularly Wilson, Mullen as mentioned above. 

[dunning1874]

16 hours ago, capitanus said:

What was the actual consequence of knowingly signing a convicted sex offender?  Morton had become a nonce club through choice.  That was a fucking disgraceful thing for our custodians to inflict upon the support.  What is more disturbing than that was the amount of people amongst the Morton support who were quite comfortable about it too.  What kind of message does that send out to the rest of Scottish Football, or Scotland as a whole, about our club?   What kind of precident does it set?  Does it lower the bar for standards that we should expect from a player or club official - which in Morton's case wasn't exactly the highest to begin with.  Also, the lack of actual impact was a result of apathy amongst the supporters, coupled with the fact that it happened during the COVID era and fans were locked out and there was another higher profile beast playing football at the time, and there was no celebrity supporter to voice opposition; but to say there was no actual impact was wide of the mark.  It was a disgraceful episode for our club.

ETA: regarding your comments about me only attending once every three seasons - I didn't realise I was there so often. It was nice of you to notice though.  

 

Just as no one in Scottish football thinks of Dumbarton, Ayr, Stenhousemuir, Airdrie, Livingston, East Kilbride or St Cadocs as "nonce clubs", all of whom also signed Lithgow after he'd been convicted, no one other than you thinks Morton are as a result of this. I would say the proof of that is that you probably couldn't even have named all of those clubs.

Fans also weren't locked out of grounds, he signed the season after games were closed doors.

[Guest capitanus]

3 hours ago, dunning1874 said:

Just as no one in Scottish football thinks of Dumbarton, Ayr, Stenhousemuir, Airdrie, Livingston, East Kilbride or St Cadocs as "nonce clubs", all of whom also signed Lithgow after he'd been convicted, no one other than you thinks Morton are as a result of this. I would say the proof of that is that you probably couldn't even have named all of those clubs.

Fans also weren't locked out of grounds, he signed the season after games were closed doors.

I would say that was conclusive proof that nobody really gives a toss about **checks notes** Dumbarton, Ayr, Stenhousemuir, Airdrie, Livingston, East Kilbride or St Cadocs.

You are right again though, I couldn't have named all of them OR given a toss about them either.  I mean, who the fuck are St. Cadocs, or East Kilbride for that matter?

 

[SassenachTon]

No disrespect intended to anyone on on either side of the fence - but history happens. We can't change it, and pant-wetting, chest-beating looking backwards is pointless - especially when the 'Something-Must-Be-Done-Because-It's-My-Human-Right-To-Be-Offended' indignance gets thrown onto the centre stage of a minor fan forum of a wee team playing on a 19th-century ground in the arse end of Inverclyde.

It's all about perspective. I have a number of very close German friends whose conscience has to deal with the fact that their grandpaws instigated, and were part of a conflict which resulted in 85 million dead people. So a sketchy, 10th-rate fitba player understandably doesn't quite hold the same gravitas for me.

Draw a line in the sand, learn from the mistake, and move on. 

 

[Hej]

23 hours ago, capitanus said:

I havent really been on much lately to get the boot in?

For years it was a strained relationship with Morton, as in the club itself, but that was the straw that broke the camel back right there.  I would much sooner the club was relegated than have a cunt like that in the team. I would even have the club face administration or be saddled with the crippling debts owed to the Rae family rather than become a nonce outfit.  The reason being is you can recover from those kind of things, and we would have done too.  However, you only need one nonce in your club to become forever tainted.  And to knowingly do so is much worse again.  For all of the historic sex offenders that have been in Scottish football, and there were many - I genuinely believe that NONE of those clubs would have hired those characters if they knew exactly what they were up to - but Morton were fully cognizant of his background and yet they still signed him.  That is beyond dreadful.  And to make matters worse they refused to address any of the supporters concerns at the time.

It goes to show what the new incumbents on the board actually thought of the Morton support, that we would accept any old shite as a player as long as he wears the blue hoops.  That just doesn't sit right with me.   Its bad enough that we get places in the team raffled off to rich guys to buy their sons a football career; It's bad enough that we sign ex-pro's who can't get their head around they're past it; It's also bad enough we let Jai Quitongo back in the club.  

Anyway, there are still a lot of Morton supporters that I like very much, yourself included - and I will probably look out for their score, and when asked i'd probably say Morton were my team - however I perhaps more of a former supporter than an actual supporter now, and I can live with it.

They can all give me as many red dots as they like now, I'm beyond caring.

You hate deviants, but love Donald Trump? Can you explain that one? You happy to just wilfully ignore his sexual abuse verdict? 

[Guest capitanus]

4 hours ago, Hej said:

You hate deviants, but love Donald Trump? Can you explain that one? You happy to just wilfully ignore his sexual abuse verdict? 

Trump denied it, and I have no reason to doubt him.  

Thanks again for the red dot, have one yourself dear. 

[Hej]

8 hours ago, capitanus said:

Trump denied it, and I have no reason to doubt him.  

Thanks again for the red dot, have one yourself dear. 

Pathetic.

 

Its almost like you don't give a toss about sexual abuse, unless there's an angle to use it for some campaign of grievance. 

Edited January 22 by Hej

[Guest capitanus]

1 hour ago, Hej said:

Pathetic.

 

Its almost like you don't give a toss about sexual abuse, unless there's an angle to use it for some campaign of grievance. 

With regards to the whole Donald Trump thing, I will be honest in say I dont know too much about it and wasn't following it much either.  What I would say is that the American justice system doesn't appear to be the greatest, and seems to have a lot of external factors influencing its decisions.  American politics and justice also seems like a really murky quagmire too, and there will be a lot of things about Trump which aren't exactly squeaky clean, but he's a survivor thats came through all of the dirt thrown at him and YET still came out on top.  That is a guy who managed to survive one of the toughest business environments in the world - New York City - with all its politics, corruption, sleaze, organised crime, big business interests etc. and come out on top.  As much as you may scoff at that, thats no mean feat.  An allegation of Rape or 'Sexual Abuse' would have sunk a lesser person, but it hasn't really impacted him.  He is still the leader of the United States, and in turn the Free World.  

Anyway, despite all your 'whitabootery' - Donald Trump isn't or wasn't a Morton player.  I genuinely don't see the relevance here.