DreamOakTree Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 You'll notice, if you read for comprehension, that I didn't dispute any of his picks. Yes but respond by giving YOUR best eleven! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRVMP Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Yes but respond by giving YOUR best eleven! Oh, like you did? Wind your neck in. You're getting awful uppity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiGi Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Yes but respond by giving YOUR best eleven!CarouxFitzpatrick Page Peciar Taggart Bachirou Habai Imrie Hands O'Brien Cham Honourable mentions to Campbell, Wallace and McLaughlin. Peter Weatherson is the greatest player since Ritchie, and should be assigned 'chairman for life' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamOakTree Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Caroux Fitzpatrick Page Peciar Taggart Bachirou Habai Imrie Hands O'Brien Cham Honourable mentions to Campbell, Wallace and McLaughlin. That’s more like it! A Ton Fan with the courage of his convictions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpoonTon Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 CM is the one area we’ve had decent players in for most of the time. The trio of Tidser Fred and Hardie were a joy to watch. Lindsay and Murdoch were excellent as a pair as well. Ross Forbes was also superb in 2016/17. Wand of a left foot. Does Jenkins count even though he was only here until mid 2011? Jenkins made over 50 appearances for us this decade, which is more than Lindsay or Hardie, so why wouldn't he count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealTonKid Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Bring him home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunning1874 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 I was planning to start a thread on this for best and worst, agreed that polls are a good idea to get a definitive list once a few people have posted XIs. Here’s the list of everyone who played in a competitive game for us this decade. I’ve noted anyone who made less than 10 appearances who isn’t still at the club, as some players didn’t really play enough. Some positions are up for debate with guys like Michael Miller who moved about and I’ve generally just considered wingers as forwards unless they were obviously a more defensive minded wide player like Finlayson, but I’ve probably misremembered some. Goalkeepers Colin Stewart Kevin Cuthbert Dominic Cervi (7 appearances) Alan Combe (10 apps) Alistair Deans (1 app) Matt McGinley (2 apps) Derek Gaston David Hutton (4 apps) Nicolas Caraux Grant Adam Jamie McGowan (5 apps) Andy McNeil Bryn Halliwell (1 app) Conor Brennan (5 apps) Ryan Scully Robby McCrorie Sam Ramsbottom Danny Rogers Defenders Stewart Greacen David MacGregor Ryan McGuffie Kevin McKinlay Alan Reid Dominic Shimmin David Van Zanten (only 1 app this decade) Grant Evans Eddie Malone (1 app as trialist) Stuart McCaffrey Nathan Shepherd (2 apps) Marc Smyth Ross Forsyth Andy Graham Creag Little (3 apps) Kevin McCann Thomas O’Ware Willie Dyer Jordan Halsman Mark McLaughlin Simon Mensing (1 app as trialist) Jason Naismith (7 apps) Craig Reid Kevin Rutkiewicz Scott Taggart Jordan Cairnie (3 apps) Darren Cole Stuart Findlay Marc Fitzpatrick Michal Habai Craig Knight (3 apps) Jamie McCormack Jonathan Page Tomas Peciar Mark Russell Ben Sampayo (2 apps) Jordan Allan (8 apps) Sean Crighton Lee Kilday Ricki Lamie Stefan Milojevic Luca Gasparotto Frank McKeown (1 app) John Tennant (1 app) Michael Doyle Gavin Gunning Jamie McDonagh Lewis Strapp Darren Barr (5 apps) Darren Hynes (3 apps) Jack Iredale Gregor Buchanan Rory McKeown Reghan Tumilty Kerr Waddell Jack Baird Peter Grant Adam Livingstone Brian McLean Henk Van Schaik Stephen Welsh Midfielders Kevin Finlayson Allan Jenkins Ryan Kane (only 1 app this decade) Neil MacFarlane Stevie Masterton Jim McAlister Carlo Monti Erik Paartalu Michael Tidser Fouad Bachirou Paddy Cregg (1 app as trialist) Iain Flannigan Graeme Holmes David O’Brien Darren Young Alan Frizzell (1 app) Darren McGeough Conor Ramsay (1 app) Derek Young Martin Hardie Ewan McLean (1 app) Stephen Stirling Tony Wallace Kyle Wilkie Reece Hands Dougie Imrie Joe McKee Jake Nicholson (5 apps) David Robertson Robbie Crawford Ross Forbes Jamie McCluskey Michael Miller Cameron O’Neil (2 apps) Conor Pepper Dylan Stevenson (8 apps) Jamie Lindsay Caolan McAleer Andy Murdoch Ben Eardley (2 apps) Gary Fraser (7 apps) Gary Harkins Ruairidh Langan (7 apps) Conor McManus (8 apps) Jack Purdue (2 apps) Dylan Dykes (8 apps) Reece Lyon Lewis McGrattan (4 apps) Keelan O’Connell (6 apps) Charlie Telfer Kyle Thomson Cameron Blues Luca Colville Kyle Jacobs Forwards Iain Russell (only 4 apps this decade) Donovan Simmonds Brian Wake (only 2 apps this decade) Peter Weatherson David Witteveen Sean Fitzharris Brian Graham Stewart Kean Kevin Kelbie Derek Lyle Jonathan Toto (4 apps) Archie Campbell Paul Di Giacomo Lewis Hawke (9 apps) Andy Jackson Joel Kasubandi (2 apps) Peter MacDonald Aiden Fulton Liam Gormley (1 app) David Graham Declan McDaid (1 app) Dylan McLaughlin (2 apps) Colin McMenamin Kabba-Modou Cham Aidan Ferris (4 apps) Barrie McKay David McNeil Nacho Novo (10 apps) Garry O’Connor Jack Smith (2 apps) Rowan Vine Andy Barrowman Ross Caldwell Stefan McCluskey Declan McManus Thomas Orr Jon Scullion Bobby Barr Denny Johnstone Paul McMullan Jai Quitongo Romario Sabajo (9 apps) Alex Samuel Ben Armour Luke Donnelly (7 apps) Aidan Nesbitt Gary Oliver Kudus Oyenuga Lawrence Shankland Scott Tiffoney John Baird (8 apps) Bob McHugh Frank Ross Robert Thomson Connor Bell (3 apps) Andrew Dallas Greg Kiltie Ross MacLean Nicky Cadden Alexander Easdale Billy King Robbie Muirhead Kalvin Orsi Cameron Salkeld John Sutton Spoilered to avoid clogging up the thread. Brian Wake my Lord, Brian Wake Brian Wake my Lord, Brian Wake Brian Wake my Lord, Brian Wake Oh Lord, Brian Wake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles_Joe Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Horrible looking when you see it all written down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Dunning’s list we’ve had some amount of shite playing for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EanieMeany Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 __________________Gaston Taggart*__Rutkiewicz__McLaughlin__Russell** _______Jenkins___Hardie___Tidser Forbes___________________________Imrie _______________MacDonald *12/13 **14-16 That'd be mine too, with a couple of changes. The first might not be a popular opinion, but I'd be inclided to have Greacen in beside McLaughlin. He's not necessarily the greatest defender we've ever had but over the piece he was a pretty decent servant for the club and we've been quite short on players who've had a bit of longevity, so I'd be tempted to include him for that reason although in purely football terms I'd opt for Gunning. The other change I'd make would be O'Brien for Forbes. The striking thing for me when looking through the list Dunning posted is that there's a lot of players who had brief periods of being pretty good but never managed to sustain it over a full season or so (to the point you'd call their time with us "unremarkable"). There's also not really many at all who have left for substantially bigger and better things, both of which say a lot about the way players are developed (or not) at the club. AWMSC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunning1874 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 No sensible formation can be found for the best due to the dearth of full backs and need to shoehorn an abundance of central players in, so 3-3-3-1 it is. McCrorie McCaffrey - Gunning - Lamie Jenkins - Lindsay - Hardie Imrie - Tidser - Kiltie MacDonald Murdoch, Bachirou and Forbes could all have made it too, the midfield is a tough one. The worst is easier: Ramsbottom McCormack - Cole - Page - Fitzpatrick Robertson - Blues - Wallace Barrowman - Dallas - Simmonds 4-3-3 with three centre forwards is obviously silly but you could probably justify a 4-0-6 with three of O’Connor, Fitzharris, Di Giacomo and Oyenuga going in as well. I’ve not included anyone who played less than 10 so the likes of Sabajo and Dykes miss out. Brian Wake my Lord, Brian Wake Brian Wake my Lord, Brian Wake Brian Wake my Lord, Brian Wake Oh Lord, Brian Wake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EanieMeany Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Greacen barely played for us this decade, though, and it wasn't exactly in a great season for him or the club. Aye, right enough. Wasn't too sure about the dates but his name was on the list. AWMSC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoon Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Romario Sabajo was a thing that happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 __________________Gaston Taggart*__Rutkiewicz__McLaughlin__Russell** lol wut We'd be best shutting the gates of Cappielow for good right now if that defence (other than McLaughlin) was the best that we could possibly muster over the past decade. Luckily that isn't the case though. The correct way to do this is to follow a fantasy football approach by leaving team shape out of it and going purely for the most effective eleven players on the pitch. We should also discard any hand-wringing about how many appearances they had, as this just gives plodding mediocrities a chance to get in through the back door. McCrorie Sir Gavin Gunning McLaughlin Sir Richard Lamie Lindsay Bachirou Murdoch Hardie Tidser Sir Douglas Imrie MacDonald You could make a decent case for swapping out McLaughlin with a similar standard of centre back from that period (and Grant is not far away from that in terms of quality either). I'm sure as hell not including any of our 17 million, utterly shite sand-dancer full backs or wingers in the team though. The presence of two King Snakes in the lineup is regrettable though they would of course be put firmly in their box by no fewer than three knights of the realm. The site is supposed to be a place for the extended 'family' of Morton supporters - having an affinity with people that you don't know, because you share a love of your local football club. It's not supposed to be about point scoring and showing how 'clever' or 'funny' you are, or just being downright rude and offensive to people you don't know, because you can get away with it. Unfortunately, it seems the classic case of people who have little standing/presence in real life, use this forum as a way of making themselves feel as if they are something. It's sad, and I've said that before.. So, having been on Morton forums for about 15 years I guess, I've had enough... well done t*ssers, another Morton supporter driven away. You can all feel happy at how 'clever' you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 The worst is easier: Ramsbottom McCormack - Cole - Page - Fitzpatrick Robertson - Blues - Wallace Barrowman - Dallas - Simmonds Stefan Milojevic was just as bad as Cole while playing at a far lower level and Dallas would barely make the top ten of our worst forwards. The site is supposed to be a place for the extended 'family' of Morton supporters - having an affinity with people that you don't know, because you share a love of your local football club. It's not supposed to be about point scoring and showing how 'clever' or 'funny' you are, or just being downright rude and offensive to people you don't know, because you can get away with it. Unfortunately, it seems the classic case of people who have little standing/presence in real life, use this forum as a way of making themselves feel as if they are something. It's sad, and I've said that before.. So, having been on Morton forums for about 15 years I guess, I've had enough... well done t*ssers, another Morton supporter driven away. You can all feel happy at how 'clever' you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hej Posted November 20, 2019 Author Share Posted November 20, 2019 Mark McLaughlin and Rutkwiewicz were past-it haddies. How anyone can put them over Lamie and Gunning, and even O'Ware, is laughable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealTonKid Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 I completely forgot Nacho Novo played for us. 2013/14 was a weird season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunning1874 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Dallas was further out of his depth than any other centre forward on that list with the exceptions of Kelbie, who I forgot about when picking the team, and Toto, who I discounted due to only playing four times. I’d replace Barrowman with Kelbie rather than Dallas. He always looked out of his depth, never threatened to score or create anything, never managed a single competent performance. There are other players who are more disliked for various reasons, but none actually worse than him. O’Connor for example is rightly a joke figure, but he did actually score once and set-up goals for others, mustering the occasional competent performance despite putting in 0/10 performances most of the time. Likewise, Kabba-Modou Cham managed one single game where he didn’t look completely lost for the full 90 minutes. Even David McNeil, who went straight to the Juniors after leaving, had enough about him to score a couple of times. Dallas didn’t have a single appearance where he wasn’t useless from start to finish. Brian Wake my Lord, Brian Wake Brian Wake my Lord, Brian Wake Brian Wake my Lord, Brian Wake Oh Lord, Brian Wake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Mark McLaughlin and Rutkwiewicz were past-it haddies. How anyone can put them over Lamie and Gunning, and even O'Ware, is laughable You'd know all about haddies, having picked Mark Russell and Michael Doyle in your clowncar selection. The site is supposed to be a place for the extended 'family' of Morton supporters - having an affinity with people that you don't know, because you share a love of your local football club. It's not supposed to be about point scoring and showing how 'clever' or 'funny' you are, or just being downright rude and offensive to people you don't know, because you can get away with it. Unfortunately, it seems the classic case of people who have little standing/presence in real life, use this forum as a way of making themselves feel as if they are something. It's sad, and I've said that before.. So, having been on Morton forums for about 15 years I guess, I've had enough... well done t*ssers, another Morton supporter driven away. You can all feel happy at how 'clever' you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Dallas was further out of his depth than any other centre forward on that list with the exceptions of Kelbie, who I forgot about when picking the team, and Toto, who I discounted due to only playing four times. And here we are again, using number of games played to hastily shift the goalposts around to suit an agenda - when the objective case for any players who were actually contracted to and played for the club will do just fine instead. Toto, Kelbie and Cham were all worse, Sabajo was also worse playing at a lower level and Luke Donnelly's sole contribution in his gubbins spell at the club was missing an absolute fucking sitter at Ibrox when that rabble were there for the taking. All of them are higher than Dallas on the list and Wallace is also there because we actually paid real money to sign him as a forward. In fact, Dallas wasn't even the worst forward to play for the club last season - step up, one 'Connor Bell' - and Orsi is also quite clearly an all-time dung pick from this season's crop as well. Dallas is down there with Kudus scrapping it out for merely a place in the top ten of haddy forwards to have played for the club this decade. Just let that sink in. The site is supposed to be a place for the extended 'family' of Morton supporters - having an affinity with people that you don't know, because you share a love of your local football club. It's not supposed to be about point scoring and showing how 'clever' or 'funny' you are, or just being downright rude and offensive to people you don't know, because you can get away with it. Unfortunately, it seems the classic case of people who have little standing/presence in real life, use this forum as a way of making themselves feel as if they are something. It's sad, and I've said that before.. So, having been on Morton forums for about 15 years I guess, I've had enough... well done t*ssers, another Morton supporter driven away. You can all feel happy at how 'clever' you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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