Morton Club Together Updates

[Guest capitanus]

7 hours ago, Jamie_M said:

 

I had included some real damning comments over the signing of a certain player and how it should never have happened, however no excerpts were included within the fan comments in the survey results.  Funny that, isn't it?

[TRVMP]

This is good work from MCT. The results document is excellent and it's clear that they're paying attention.

One interesting part, to me at least, is the "What's important to supporters" table. Financial stability and on-pitch success come first, developing youth players next, then everything else is pretty far behind.

I'm very pleased that there are concrete points to move forward with at the end of this, and I'm also pretty pleased that they've not shied away from putting some of the negative feedback in the presentation.

Of course it will all depend on the execution but this is promising.

[TheGoon]

Agreed, it’s a really well put together bit of work. Interesting that just 6% of the support is 20 or under (though you’d assume much of that’s down to fewer of them taking the time to fill out the survey) 

Probably isn’t too far off the actual %, we’ve got an ageing fanbase and converting young people into supporters over the last 20 years has been a real issue.

[TONofmemories]

31 minutes ago, capitanus said:

I had included some real damning comments over the signing of a certain player and how it should never have happened, however no excerpts were included within the fan comments in the survey results.  Funny that, isn't it?

Not really tbh

[TRVMP]

7 minutes ago, TheGoon said:

Agreed, it’s a really well put together bit of work. Interesting that just 6% of the support is 20 or under (though you’d assume much of that’s down to fewer of them taking the time to fill out the survey) 

Probably isn’t too far off the actual %, we’ve got an ageing fanbase and converting young people into supporters over the last 20 years has been a real issue.

With the exception of some of the Youtube-friendly clubs, I think this is happening to every club in the UK. Older fans are dying out and new ones aren't coming to take their place. This is also happening at the playing level, where a lot of non-league, amateur, welfare etc. teams and even leagues are falling by the wayside.

I don't know the answer. If we tried to be Hashtag United or SE Dons or something it'd come across as forced and tryhard and wouldn't land.

Perhaps we just wait for the little scrotes to grow up and be less interested in chasing girls and drinking minimum-priced alcopops and settle into middle-aged boringness (such as watching provincial football clubs.)

[Toby]

8 minutes ago, TheGoon said:

Agreed, it’s a really well put together bit of work. Interesting that just 6% of the support is 20 or under (though you’d assume much of that’s down to fewer of them taking the time to fill out the survey) 

Probably isn’t too far off the actual %, we’ve got an ageing fanbase and converting young people into supporters over the last 20 years has been a real issue.

It’s certainly not going to get any easier if our stewards are treating the weans like absolute shite, as appears to be the case at a lot of the home matches this season.

I regrettably didn’t get round to filling it in, but I hope someone brought that up.

[Guest capitanus]

This wee gem was included within the survey report:

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Over 1,000 supporters fed their thoughts and opinions into the survey, giving a lot of valuable insights and data to analyse.

● 93% of supporters responding were male. 6% of supporters responding are 20-years-old or younger. There’s a suggested action to increase the diversity of the fanbase, and attract younger age groups to interact with the club and ultimately attend matches.

Are they for real?  They recruited a convicted sex offender and yet they are acting all surprised that only 7% of respondents to their supporters survey are female.  Perhaps its because female Morton supporters don't feel that their thoughts and feelings are welcomed or valued by the MCT.  There doesn't appear to be any female supporters on the club board, why is that?  There doesnt appear to be any female MCT office bearers, why is that?  There hasn't been any acknowledgement of supporters concerns about the signing of Alan Lithgow, they have done their best to skirt around that subject in the most calamitous manner, but they are acting all surprised that not many women are participating in their charade of a survey.  Can I suggest they look inward for the reason there.

If their is a 'suggested action to increase the diversity of the fanbase' then making Morton a friendly and welcoming place for females is a good place to start, and its one of the lower hanging fruits as ideas go, they should try doing that before they start plastering the place with rainbow flags and booking Aswad to play at half time.

[HamCam]

A positive and something to work on. One surprise for me was the majority being indifferent about the merchandise on offer. 

As for your comments getting ignored Cap my attempts at constructive criticism are also to be found on the floor of the editing suite.

[Guest capitanus]

15 minutes ago, HamCam said:

A positive and something to work on. One surprise for me was the majority being indifferent about the merchandise on offer. 

As for your comments getting ignored Cap my attempts at constructive criticism are also to be found on the floor of the editing suite.

My comments were about the signing of a certain player who shouldn't have been allowed anywhere near the club, so there is no surprise they were excluded.  It is immoral that a fan-owned football club wont face up to supporters concerns on the matter, despite being given many opportunities to do so, however here we are.

It may not be the biggest talking point amongst supporters now that we've got a new manager and had a few favourable results, but this issue wont go away as long as hes at the club, and for as long as those who sanctioned the transfer are still in the boardroom.

[TaunTon]

Useful exercise in gauging who the fanbase is and what are the issues that require attention. Particularly pleased with the level of participation.

I'll be interested to see what kind of action plan follows and how we will measure success.

[TONofmemories]

57 minutes ago, capitanus said:

This wee gem was included within the survey report:

Are they for real?  They recruited a convicted sex offender and yet they are acting all surprised that only 7% of respondents to their supporters survey are female.  Perhaps its because female Morton supporters don't feel that their thoughts and feelings are welcomed or valued by the MCT.  There doesn't appear to be any female supporters on the club board, why is that?  There doesnt appear to be any female MCT office bearers, why is that?  There hasn't been any acknowledgement of supporters concerns about the signing of Alan Lithgow, they have done their best to skirt around that subject in the most calamitous manner, but they are acting all surprised that not many women are participating in their charade of a survey.  Can I suggest they look inward for the reason there.

If their is a 'suggested action to increase the diversity of the fanbase' then making Morton a friendly and welcoming place for females is a good place to start, and its one of the lower hanging fruits as ideas go, they should try doing that before they start plastering the place with rainbow flags and booking Aswad to play at half time.

Seriously clutching at straws. 

[TheGoon]

1 hour ago, TRVMP said:

With the exception of some of the Youtube-friendly clubs, I think this is happening to every club in the UK. Older fans are dying out and new ones aren't coming to take their place. This is also happening at the playing level, where a lot of non-league, amateur, welfare etc. teams and even leagues are falling by the wayside.

I don't know the answer. If we tried to be Hashtag United or SE Dons or something it'd come across as forced and tryhard and wouldn't land.

Perhaps we just wait for the little scrotes to grow up and be less interested in chasing girls and drinking minimum-priced alcopops and settle into middle-aged boringness (such as watching provincial football clubs.)

Aye, agree on that. I wonder how much Inverclyde’s socio-economic state factors in here as well. We’ll face many of the same challenges as other clubs, but probably always slightly worse.   

[Guest capitanus]

23 minutes ago, TONofmemories said:

Seriously clutching at straws. 

 

[ChampTon]

1 hour ago, capitanus said:

My comments were about the signing of a certain player who shouldn't have been allowed anywhere near the club, so there is no surprise they were excluded.  It is immoral that a fan-owned football club wont face up to supporters concerns on the matter, despite being given many opportunities to do so, however here we are.

It may not be the biggest talking point amongst supporters now that we've got a new manager and had a few favourable results, but this issue wont go away as long as hes at the club, and for as long as those who sanctioned the transfer are still in the boardroom.

Good to see you, once again, lambasting Lithgow in order to protect your own insecurities. At least, that's how your constant, 24/7 ranting about him comes across.

Maybe you should speak to a professional about your own, deeply uncomfortable urges? 

[TRVMP]

47 minutes ago, TheGoon said:

Aye, agree on that. I wonder how much Inverclyde’s socio-economic state factors in here as well. We’ll face many of the same challenges as other clubs, but probably always slightly worse.   

Very probably.

Having had longer to think about it, I'd say that, while looking for a younger and more diverse fanbase is a good idea and definitely worth doing, this can't be done at the expense of the core punters, who are older men. There's no reason at all why it would be at their expense: this isn't a zero-sum thing, and reaching out for new fans and making people welcome should, theoretically, benefit everyone. But overall there is a very specific demographic that's shown itself likely to show up and pay in and stand around watching lower-league football, and consequently this should be the primary one appealed to by the club. It's certainly not the case that we've wrung every last tenner out of that group, as there are plenty of lapsed fans in the area, and any come-to-Cappielow outreach needs to keep them top of mind.

[Guest capitanus]

9 minutes ago, ChampTon said:

Good to see you, once again, lambasting Lithgow in order to protect your own insecurities. At least, that's how your constant, 24/7 ranting about him comes across.

Maybe you should speak to a professional about your own, deeply uncomfortable urges? 

Where am I ranting 24/7? Or constant, as you describe?  In fact, I don't think that I have mentioned Lithgow on here for a few weeks now.  In fact, the heat has died down a bit for Lithgow now that we have a new manager and had a few favourable results, but nonetheless he remains a player who shouldn't be at the club.

However I am glad that you think its good to see me, once again, lambasting Lithgow.  Thank you very much for your support.

[so72]

46 minutes ago, ChampTon said:

Good to see you, once again, lambasting Lithgow in order to protect your own insecurities. At least, that's how your constant, 24/7 ranting about him comes across.

Maybe you should speak to a professional about your own, deeply uncomfortable urges? 

Thats a horrible comment and not something you should be implying about anyone. Perhaps fans like you are who make it possible for sex offenders to captain our club. 

Edited January 24, 2022 by so72

[Guest capitanus]

1 minute ago, so72 said:

Thats a horrible comment and not something you should be implying about anyone. Perhaps fans like you are who make it possible for sex offenders to captain our club. 

I dont have a clue as to what he was implying.  Perhaps its just as well I dont.

[irnbru]

Anyone joined the webinars? 

Just saying the page isn't available through the eventbrite link. 

[Cet Homme Charmant]

Anyone know who the best person to contact is for booking Hospitality since Lesley-Anne left? 

Trying to book for 3 for the QoS game on 12 February, and sent the request on Wednesday morning to admin@gmfc.net, which was the contact mail given in the advert. Heard hee-haw from the club since. Is there another email I can try?