EanieMeany Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 From Partick's website:"Purchases from the main office or the portable ticket office can be made by cash or card – all other purchases are cash only." "Away fans should check with their club around seating arrangements for each fixture and whether there are tickets available to purchase in advance or whether the game is cash at the turnstile." The turnstile operators may well accept card payments (despite what the official club website says), but they don't have automated turnstiles accepting contactless. No stadium does, nor is it a problem to anybody that they don't. AWMSC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irnbru Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 That's Partick and Dundee Utd manage to sort out finance options for season tickets. Only way I'll consider buying one is if morton do the same. Get a credit card? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 From Partick's website: "Purchases from the main office or the portable ticket office can be made by cash or card – all other purchases are cash only." "Away fans should check with their club around seating arrangements for each fixture and whether there are tickets available to purchase in advance or whether the game is cash at the turnstile." The turnstile operators may well accept card payments (despite what the official club website says), but they don't have automated turnstiles accepting contactless. No stadium does, nor is it a problem to anybody that they don't. So what you're in fact saying is that Partick Thistle and their crumbling dump of a main stand in particular have found a more convenient solution for paying and entering a football ground in 2019 than our shan, white elephant turnstiles, ticket booth and fan card 'system' combined. The site is supposed to be a place for the extended 'family' of Morton supporters - having an affinity with people that you don't know, because you share a love of your local football club. It's not supposed to be about point scoring and showing how 'clever' or 'funny' you are, or just being downright rude and offensive to people you don't know, because you can get away with it. Unfortunately, it seems the classic case of people who have little standing/presence in real life, use this forum as a way of making themselves feel as if they are something. It's sad, and I've said that before.. So, having been on Morton forums for about 15 years I guess, I've had enough... well done t*ssers, another Morton supporter driven away. You can all feel happy at how 'clever' you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 'Pay us £300 in advance or else 'Hoppy' will give it the puppy eyes about his terrible budget and oh btw if you want to finance it then take out a card yourself' is easily up there with the best commercial strategies of the club in the past 20 years. The site is supposed to be a place for the extended 'family' of Morton supporters - having an affinity with people that you don't know, because you share a love of your local football club. It's not supposed to be about point scoring and showing how 'clever' or 'funny' you are, or just being downright rude and offensive to people you don't know, because you can get away with it. Unfortunately, it seems the classic case of people who have little standing/presence in real life, use this forum as a way of making themselves feel as if they are something. It's sad, and I've said that before.. So, having been on Morton forums for about 15 years I guess, I've had enough... well done t*ssers, another Morton supporter driven away. You can all feel happy at how 'clever' you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRVMP Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 Get a credit card? You're asking him if he wants to pay compound interest on his season ticket? His issue is he doesn't want to (or can't) make a lump sum payment in summer, but wants to spread it out. Now you're telling him he should use a credit card for this, even though that would increase the cost significantly. Why not just go the whole hog and ask him to get a payday loan? Your knee-jerk rush to defend everything the club does is getting nauseating. Why didn't they tell people to put it on a credit card last year? Answer: because a cheap financing option is much more attractive to customers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EanieMeany Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 So what you're in fact saying is that Partick Thistle and their crumbling dump of a main stand in particular have found a more convenient solution for paying and entering a football ground in 2019 than our shan, white elephant turnstiles, ticket booth and fan card 'system'. What I'm saying is that there's very, very few stadiums in the world that accept contactless payments at the gate. Plenty of stadiums these days, for good or ill (I'd say the latter), have automated turnstiles, and probably none of them accept contactless payments in lieu of a ticket or card. AWMSC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irnbru Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 You're asking him if he wants to pay compound interest on his season ticket? His issue is he doesn't want to (or can't) make a lump sum payment in summer, but wants to spread it out. Now you're telling him he should use a credit card for this, even though that would increase the cost significantly. Why not just go the whole hog and ask him to get a payday loan? Your knee-jerk rush to defend everything the club does is getting nauseating. Why didn't they tell people to put it on a credit card last year? Answer: because a cheap financing option is much more attractive to customers. I'm pretty sure a loan from the bank or a credot card is around the same or less than what the Morton offer was and he can pay whatever he wants when he wants. I'm not defending the club - there's just an obvious solution there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
port-ton Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 Get a credit card? I've just paid off my credit cards after years and I'm sure as hell not getting another one to watch Bob McHugh strut his stuff. Good people will do good things, bad people will do bad things, but only with religion do good people do bad things! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRVMP Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 I'm pretty sure a loan from the bank or a credot card is around the same or less than what the Morton offer was and he can pay whatever he wants when he wants. I'm not defending the club - there's just an obvious solution there. A credit card and a financed loan work completely differently. On a CC, you put on your 300 quid and then the entire amount is due at the end of the next billing cycle, which is monthly. The worst case scenario, then, is you have 31 days to pay. The best case, 59. If you don't, there's then interest, which compounds month on month. A financed loan can have any kind of terms attached to it. The Zebra one was very favorable *if* clients met the payment each month - they wouldn't accrue any extra interest against the principle. It's not even the club's fault that Zebra went tuts-up, but if the new strategy is "get American Express, peasant" then hell mend them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRVMP Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 I've just paid off my credit cards after years and I'm sure as hell not getting another one to watch Bob McHugh strut his stuff. I did this a couple of years back and it's absolutely liberating. And saves an absolute ton on interest. For someone close to the club to be advocating interest-based debt without knowing your circumstances is shameful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 What I'm saying is that there's very, very few stadiums in the world that accept contactless payments at the gate. Can't be that few anymore given that an absolute tinpot outfit like Partick fucking Thistle in the second tier of Scottish football have managed to implement it. Where do you think they got the idea from? 'Buy a few card readers' is really not an unrealistic solution for a business operating in 2019 - not least compared to the absolutely fucking ridiculous sum of money that GMFC spunked on a bunch of shan turnstiles that make the process less rather than more accessible for walk-up customers instead. Plenty of stadiums these days, for good or ill (I'd say the latter), have automated turnstiles, and probably none of them accept contactless payments in lieu of a ticket or card. Which is not actually relevant at all to irnbru's original claim that you can't use contactless payments at the gate in the world of football anywhere. That's demonstrably false - you can walk up and enter a game using contactless payment at a ground in the same division less than thirty miles up the road. How clubs who previously invested in Betamax-type, dung technology choose to respond to this revelation is no concern of mine. The site is supposed to be a place for the extended 'family' of Morton supporters - having an affinity with people that you don't know, because you share a love of your local football club. It's not supposed to be about point scoring and showing how 'clever' or 'funny' you are, or just being downright rude and offensive to people you don't know, because you can get away with it. Unfortunately, it seems the classic case of people who have little standing/presence in real life, use this forum as a way of making themselves feel as if they are something. It's sad, and I've said that before.. So, having been on Morton forums for about 15 years I guess, I've had enough... well done t*ssers, another Morton supporter driven away. You can all feel happy at how 'clever' you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EanieMeany Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 "Entry is pay at the gate with ticket issued on entry. Admission prices are: Adults: £20 Concession (Over 65, Student, 16 to 18)^: £15 Under-16s: £5" Paying a turnstile operator is not the same thing as an automated machine. AWMSC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irnbru Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 You could pay by card at Firhill at the gate last December and I'm pretty sure it was contactless as well. It's really not the sort of great technological struggle that you seem to think it is. We've got an automated system and not people taking money. Having a card reader at automated gates isn't something that's done as it's open to abuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 "Entry is pay at the gate with ticket issued on entry. Admission prices are: Adults: £20 Concession (Over 65, Student, 16 to 18)^: £15 Under-16s: £5" Paying a turnstile operator is not the same thing as an automated machine. And your point here is what, exactly? Here is the claim made by irnbru, that you're bizarrely white knighting and for which you're charging headlong off a cliff edge instead: I've not been to any stadium in the world that allows contactless at the gate never mind a Scottish Championship one. Which is wrong. You can in fact use contactless payment, at the gate, at Firhill. Whether there is some shan machine or some gormless member of staff carrying out the transaction is totally irrelevant - in the same way that nobody cares whether you use a machine or a staffed checkout to pay for your shopping at Tesco. The payment options are identical and most convenient for the customer. The site is supposed to be a place for the extended 'family' of Morton supporters - having an affinity with people that you don't know, because you share a love of your local football club. It's not supposed to be about point scoring and showing how 'clever' or 'funny' you are, or just being downright rude and offensive to people you don't know, because you can get away with it. Unfortunately, it seems the classic case of people who have little standing/presence in real life, use this forum as a way of making themselves feel as if they are something. It's sad, and I've said that before.. So, having been on Morton forums for about 15 years I guess, I've had enough... well done t*ssers, another Morton supporter driven away. You can all feel happy at how 'clever' you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 We've got an automated system and not people taking money. Having a card reader at automated gates isn't something that's done as it's open to abuse. See below: How clubs who previously invested in Betamax-type, dung technology choose to respond to this revelation is no concern of mine. The site is supposed to be a place for the extended 'family' of Morton supporters - having an affinity with people that you don't know, because you share a love of your local football club. It's not supposed to be about point scoring and showing how 'clever' or 'funny' you are, or just being downright rude and offensive to people you don't know, because you can get away with it. Unfortunately, it seems the classic case of people who have little standing/presence in real life, use this forum as a way of making themselves feel as if they are something. It's sad, and I've said that before.. So, having been on Morton forums for about 15 years I guess, I've had enough... well done t*ssers, another Morton supporter driven away. You can all feel happy at how 'clever' you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EanieMeany Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 Whether there is some shan machine or some gormless member of staff carrying out the transaction is totally irrelevant - in the same way that nobody cares whether you use a machine or a checkout to pay for your shopping at Tesco. The payment options are identical and most convenient for the customer. Well it's not irrelevant, because every post I've made has been in the context of automated turnstiles: you can't walk up to them anywhere and wave your bank card for entry instead of a fan card or ticket. That doesn't mean I think it's a good idea or a bad one, it's just how it is and it's an entirely different situation to a turnstile which is operated by a person. AWMSC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 'An entirely different situation' being in fact a 'worse situation' for any business that understands the point of making transactions as easy as possible for the customer. The site is supposed to be a place for the extended 'family' of Morton supporters - having an affinity with people that you don't know, because you share a love of your local football club. It's not supposed to be about point scoring and showing how 'clever' or 'funny' you are, or just being downright rude and offensive to people you don't know, because you can get away with it. Unfortunately, it seems the classic case of people who have little standing/presence in real life, use this forum as a way of making themselves feel as if they are something. It's sad, and I've said that before.. So, having been on Morton forums for about 15 years I guess, I've had enough... well done t*ssers, another Morton supporter driven away. You can all feel happy at how 'clever' you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EanieMeany Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 The fact we can't use contactless shows how crap the turnstiles are. Is there a way to buy on your phone then use a QR code? I always just buy from Smiths. I've not been to any stadium in the world that allows contactless at the gate never mind a Scottish Championship one. The only point that was getting made here was about what automated turnstiles do or don't do as standard. AWMSC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
so72 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 There's a big difference between clubs handing out free tickets and a gormless outfit like the Community Trust buying tickets from the club and distributing them through the happy-clappy networks and school contacts that they love to bang on about. In the second scenario it doesn't really matter whether lots of weans turn up or not: the club still gets extra revenue regardless. The club currently gets precisely £0 in gate revenue from all children under 12 because of a ridiculous and now unsustainable commitment to subsidising parents who want to take their sprogs to games as well. When it's £300 a head to watch for an adult it is clearly time to end this nonsense and take a more logical and fact-based approach instead. I don't disagree with you. Personally would have a 'pay what you want' for u12s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmdc Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 There's a big difference between clubs handing out free tickets and a gormless outfit like the Community Trust buying tickets from the club and distributing them through the happy-clappy networks and school contacts that they love to bang on about. In the second scenario it doesn't really matter whether lots of weans turn up or not: the club still gets extra revenue regardless. The club currently gets precisely £0 in gate revenue from all children under 12 because of a ridiculous and now unsustainable commitment to subsidising parents who want to take their sprogs to games as well. When it's £300 a head to watch for an adult it is clearly time to end this nonsense and take a more logical and fact-based approach instead. In defence of the community trust, it has been remarkably successful for a gormless outfit. Gorms are obviously overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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