BishopBrennan Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 His problem was no attention to detail. At the same time though the whole design out own bespoke one has been our most popular tops ever. I've said it a few times but he's an ideas guy and not a leader. I might have my timings wrong, but was this top not released under Gillian Donaldson's watch, before Hawke took over a few weeks later and immediately pulled it and started the design contest? Blb suggested it was the old old ceo which would infact be the one before iron man if I'm reading it right so no need to jump to his defence quite so quick. Blb!? You address me by my proper title, you little bollocks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRVMP Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 I'd love to be considered an 'ideas man', sounds like a way just to be absolutely crap at your job but have people fawning over you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Doesn't matter. Commercially it's the most successful and that's what matters. Next step is to capitalise on that. What evidence is there that the actual voting process is the cause of this commercial success rather than the fact that we’ve ditched buckshee, out of the catalogue crap? Be extremely specific. There’s a place for voting somewhere in process but I don’t think it’s worth doing every year based on simplistic nonsense like the above. We need to get a classic home top done right for the first time in years instead of having the same person putting daft fades or go faster stripes on it every time round. The site is supposed to be a place for the extended 'family' of Morton supporters - having an affinity with people that you don't know, because you share a love of your local football club. It's not supposed to be about point scoring and showing how 'clever' or 'funny' you are, or just being downright rude and offensive to people you don't know, because you can get away with it. Unfortunately, it seems the classic case of people who have little standing/presence in real life, use this forum as a way of making themselves feel as if they are something. It's sad, and I've said that before.. So, having been on Morton forums for about 15 years I guess, I've had enough... well done t*ssers, another Morton supporter driven away. You can all feel happy at how 'clever' you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K K Kelbie Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 I think the voting system should stay as it gives Gordon the Groomed the chance to get owned in a competition for five year olds every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Partridge_Ton Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 I think the voting system should stay as it gives Gordon the Groomed the chance to get owned in a competition for five year olds every year. Where is Gordon these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irnbru Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 I'd love to be considered an 'ideas man', sounds like a way just to be absolutely crap at your job but have people fawning over you. It's normally called a consultant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRVMP Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 It's normally called a consultant. Fair. Is that what he's doing now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irnbru Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Fair. Is that what he's doing now?Consulting? I actually do think that's what it it come to think of it. I'm sure someone said he was advising Raith on their community stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EanieMeany Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 I've little desire to defend Hawke here, but I do think that at times people's personal dislike of Hawke taints their judgement a wee bit. Again, I don't think he done a good job at all but initially he seemed like he had some good ideas (in some areas anyway), but in practise all we got was fuck up after fuck up. There's room for a bit more nuance in any discussion about him though, rather than just dismissing everything as a disaster. AWMSC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irnbru Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 I've little desire to defend Hawke here, but I do think that at times people's personal dislike of Hawke taints their judgement a wee bit. Again, I don't think he done a good job at all but initially he seemed like he had some good ideas (in some areas anyway), but in practise all we got was fuck up after fuck up. There's room for a bit more nuance in any discussion about him though, rather than just dismissing everything as a disaster. I don't think he really managed things through to completion but things like the community trust, youth academy, online tickets, strip voting, pie stall branding, etc were all things he started with varying degrees of success. Like I keep saying, the problems have mainly been the implementation rather than the ideas which was a lot more than the Gillian Donaldson had. I know he had a lot of other things that were planned and sounded good and never got off the ground for whatever reason which is his biggest problem. The revamp of hospitality is a good example where it got done quickly when he left but he had various different plans over the years without being able to get them done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 I've little desire to defend Hawke here, but I do think that at times people's personal dislike of Hawke taints their judgement a wee bit. Again, I don't think he done a good job at all but initially he seemed like he had some good ideas (in some areas anyway), but in practise all we got was fuck up after fuck up. There's room for a bit more nuance in any discussion about him though, rather than just dismissing everything as a disaster. Judge him by his achievements instead of mealy mouthed platitudes and there’s no need for nuance at all: he was a useless failure. The site is supposed to be a place for the extended 'family' of Morton supporters - having an affinity with people that you don't know, because you share a love of your local football club. It's not supposed to be about point scoring and showing how 'clever' or 'funny' you are, or just being downright rude and offensive to people you don't know, because you can get away with it. Unfortunately, it seems the classic case of people who have little standing/presence in real life, use this forum as a way of making themselves feel as if they are something. It's sad, and I've said that before.. So, having been on Morton forums for about 15 years I guess, I've had enough... well done t*ssers, another Morton supporter driven away. You can all feel happy at how 'clever' you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamCam Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 I've little desire to defend Hawke here, but I do think that at times people's personal dislike of Hawke taints their judgement a wee bit. Again, I don't think he done a good job at all but initially he seemed like he had some good ideas (in some areas anyway), but in practise all we got was fuck up after fuck up. There's room for a bit more nuance in any discussion about him though, rather than just dismissing everything as a disaster. It was all talk. The only aspect he followed through on was his man-servant irnbru. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irnbru Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 It was all talk. The only aspect he followed through on was his man-servant irnbru. It's his bitch actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealTonKid Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Blb!? How's the son Len? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitanus Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 His problem was no attention to detail. At the same time though the whole design out own bespoke one has been our most popular tops ever. I've said it a few times but he's an ideas guy and not a leader. I'm quite sure that was the tail end of Gillian Donaldson's tenure as Chief Executive, and not that of the inept Work-Geordie "Worz me Drone?" that is your hero, Warren Hawke. To try and defend him by saying 'he's an ideas guy and not a leader' is no defence when he had taken several years worth of salary to be the leader of our business. *insert signature here* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 I've little desire to defend Hawke here, but I do think that at times people's personal dislike of Hawke taints their judgement a wee bit. Again, I don't think he done a good job at all but initially he seemed like he had some good ideas (in some areas anyway), but in practise all we got was fuck up after fuck up. There's room for a bit more nuance in any discussion about him though, rather than just dismissing everything as a disaster. There's the odd mouth breather on here, but they're few and far between. I'd like to think that most folks' disdain for Hawke is a direct result of his utter contempt for his paying customers. Let's not kid ourselves, the guy was a wanker who went out his way to antagonise us in order to keep himself in a job, and ultimately that was a contributing factor to him being emptied. Let's be honest here, Hawke was a prick and getting him to fuck ranks alongside swapping Andy Barrowman for Ross Forbes and pumping the beggars in their own rancid bin as great Morton victories of this decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irnbru Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 I'm quite sure that was the tail end of Gillian Donaldson's tenure as Chief Executive, and not that of the inept Work-Geordie "Worz me Drone?" that is your hero, Warren Hawke. To try and defend him by saying 'he's an ideas guy and not a leader' is no defence when he had taken several years worth of salary to be the leader of our business. It's not a defence, it's my opinion of him. I wasn't the one who employed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitanus Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 I might have my timings wrong, but was this top not released under Gillian Donaldson's watch, before Hawke took over a few weeks later and immediately pulled it and started the design contest? Blb!? Apologies, see above. *insert signature here* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitanus Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 It's not a defence, it's my opinion of him. I wasn't the one who employed him. Weren't you the guy who made him the patron of GMST? *insert signature here* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irnbru Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Weren't you the guy who made him the patron of GMST? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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