AyrshireTon Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 May 29th - 1943 - Clyde 1-1 Morton Summer Cup - 1st leg. McGhee needs some support, there's no-one backing him up. Hayes playing it forward, Bell being forced to do it all alone, now forward from Marr, here's Ritchie, still Andy Ritchie, look at the control... That is a marvellous goal from Andy Ritchie. Twenty minutes on the clock and Morton's supporters come alive. A goal which epitomises the control, the arrogance, the cheek of Andy Ritchie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRVMP Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 Interesting that 'centre-half' and 'back' are being used as the descriptors. Halfback and fullback were already well in vogue by then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alibi Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Centre half (I assume short for centre half back) was being used up until fairly recently. I don't know when back became full back, but presumably to distinguish them from the half backs. Always puzzled me why the centre half was so called (maybe the weather, boom boom) when generally he played at the back - often referred to colloquially as the stopper - rather than in between the two half backs. Maybe that's why the name changed to centre back. "Any nation given the opportunity to regain its national sovereignty and which then rejects it is so far beneath contempt that it is hard to put words to it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONofmemories Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Had an debate with Dunning and GiGi about this coming home from Brechin a few years back. I have always called a central defender a "Centre Half" TIME FOR CHANGE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunning1874 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Had an debate with Dunning and GiGi about this coming home from Brechin a few years back. I have always called a central defender a "Centre Half" FAKE NEWS The debate was because you were using 'centre half' as a term for central midfielders rather than centre backs. Brian Wake my Lord, Brian Wake Brian Wake my Lord, Brian Wake Brian Wake my Lord, Brian Wake Oh Lord, Brian Wake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONofmemories Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 FAKE NEWS The debate was because you were using 'centre half' as a term for central midfielders rather than centre backs. Other way around. TIME FOR CHANGE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SramTon Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 My understanding (which could be wrong - it's way before my time) is that teams traditionally lined up with 2 full-backs (left and right: the defence), 3 halves (left, right and centre) and five forwards (outside-left/right, inside-left/right and centre-forward). When the offside rule was changed in the early twenties (from needing three defenders between the attacker and the goal down to two defenders), there was a push for the centre-half to drop back from midfield and play more as a defender; this suited some of the older centre-halves (most famously a guy at Arsenal, whose name I can't remember). The two inside forwards then dropped back a bit to fill the gap in midfield and this became the W:M formation which had three defenders (2 full-backs and centre-half). When line-ups then evolved in the mid-60's into the flat back four, you still had more traditional centre-half-type players (like Franz Beckenbauer), who would forage out of defence and almost play as midfielders, which kept the term going throughout the 70s. By the 80's the more classy central-defenders were now playing more as sweepers, with (in my experience) "centre-half" tending to be used to describe the more no-nonsense type central-defender. But there was (and is) a lot of central-defenders who are neither one or the other (Stewart Greacen was a centre-half in my book, but wtf was Ryan Harding?); which of Gavin Gunning, Thomas O'Ware, Rickie Lamie and Lee Kilday are centre-halves and which aren't? Easier just to call them all central defenders. Look at her riding pillions on Davy’s sea-bike, carrying an apoplectic macaw in a silver hoop. Oh, Morton, let’s go there this winter! Or learning the Japanese chinchona from that Kobe group, in a dress that looks like a blowtorch rising from one knee, and which should sell big in Texas. Morton, is that real fire? Happy, happy little girl! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyrshireTon Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 May 30th - 1942 - Falkirk 3-2 Morton Summer cup - 1st leg. McGhee needs some support, there's no-one backing him up. Hayes playing it forward, Bell being forced to do it all alone, now forward from Marr, here's Ritchie, still Andy Ritchie, look at the control... That is a marvellous goal from Andy Ritchie. Twenty minutes on the clock and Morton's supporters come alive. A goal which epitomises the control, the arrogance, the cheek of Andy Ritchie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoTon Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 No details but I have a result for: Sat June 3 1944 - ​Scottish Summer Cup 1st Round 1st Leg Raith Rovers 1 - 2 Greenock Morton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoTon Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 A possibly historic game was played on this day at Cappielow: Scottish Summer cup 1st round 2nd legSat June 10 1944 Morton 3-3 Raith Rovers aet (1-2 at 90 mins) Morton won 5-4 on aggregate. Morton Scorers: Gallacher (first goal in normal time), Crum, Garth (first 2 goals in extra time). Team: Cowan, Maley, Higgins, Strain, Aird, Campbell, Adams, Gallacher, Crum, Garth, Kelly. Morton wearing red shirts and Raith blue shirts. Star man – Aird. I say that this match was possibly historic as it might well have been Jimmy Cowan's first-team Cappielow debut(?) According to the "Morton Greats" book, Cowan was signed on a free transfer in May 1944, and enlisted in the Army later in June 1944 as soon as he turned 18. He of course didn't make a full League debut until 1947. But a wartime fixture such as this would have been just the sort of game new talent would have been fielded in. Other than the first leg of this fixture away at Raith (above) there don't seem to be any obvious other games he might have played in May 1944 or earlier in June. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoTon Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Scottish Summer Cup 2nd round, 1st leg(?), at CappielowSat Jun 17 1944 Morton 1-1 Hibernian Scorer: KellyDiary entry: "Unexpectedly good result due to improved team – fear the return result. Foulsome and tough game. Even play throughout with good Morton outfield play and poor finishing. Kelly raced in for first goal which zoomed in low at the left-hand post under the crouching Hibs goalie Downie. Hibs pressure in the 2nd half ended with Smith scoring from a practically untouchable rising shot past an unsighted Cowan. Cowan had played exceptionally well and had luck on his side. Best of each side were Cowan and Gray for Morton and Baxter and Milne for Hibs." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoTon Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Just realized I missed a couple of earlier June 1945 games - so for the record:June 9 1945Scottish Summer Cup 2nd round, 1st leg (at Cappielow)Morton (1)1-0(0) Queen's Park Scorer: SteeleTeam: McFeat, Maley, Fyfe, Garth, Aird, Campbell, Hunter, Cupples, McKillop, Steele, Kelly Referee: W. Brown of Bellshill. Star man: Steele June 16 1945Scottish Summer Cup 2nd round, 2nd leg (at Hampden Park)Queen's Park (0)0-0(0) Morton Team: McFeat, Maley, Fyfe, Campbell, Aird, Whyte, Kelly, Cupples, McKillop, Garth, McInnes Referee: M Dale of Glasgow. Star man: McInnes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoTon Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Semi-final of Scots Summer cup at Hampden Park, Glasgow Sat June 23rd 1945 Morton (0)0 – 1(1) Partick ThistleTeam: McFeat, Maley, Campbell, Aird, Whyte, Kelly, Cupples, McKillop, Garth, McInnes. Referee: Peter Craigmyle. Star man: Maley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoTon Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 Pales into insgnificance given today's terrible news, but at least one good thing happened on this day in Morton history. RIP Mr Rae. Scottish Summer Cup, 2nd round, 2nd leg Jun 24 1944 Hibs 0-2 Morton (Arthur, Crum) Crowd of 8,000 saw an excellent and well-deserved result for the ‘Ton (and an aggregate 3-1 win) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoTon Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Scottish Summer Cup Semi-Final Sat July 1 1944 Clyde 3-3 Morton aet at Hampden ParkScoers: Kelly (2); Garth Limited newspaper report below - some more details from my dad's 1944 diary: "Rain all through 2nd half and extra time. Morton start pressing effectively, with Kelly scoring twice with very fine work before Wallace, the Clyde CF, breaks away and absolutely crashes in a shot past Cowan to the goalie’s right. Steady pressure each way with Clyde defence and attack more coordinated than Morton’s looser play. Second half nearly all Clyde with Morton defence in more than slight difficulty. Clyde score twice but Morton equalize in the last minute with Garth meeting a Steele corner with a solid header over Clyde keeper Sweeney. No goals in extra time but Clyde’s previous goal average sees them through." I guess there were no penalties in those days. Seems bizarre that "previous goal average" saw Clyde through, especially as Morton had beaten Hibs in the 2nd round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyrshireTon Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 July 23rd - 2016 - Kilmarnock 0-2 Morton (Oliver, Quitoingo) League Cup Group stage. A doddle against a top flight outfit whose players looked like they had only just met (and probably had). 2011 - Stranraer 0-8 Morton (Jackson 4, Di Giacomo 4) Challange Cup Fresh from 6-3 and 7-1 wins in recent years, we continue to stroll at Stair Park. McGhee needs some support, there's no-one backing him up. Hayes playing it forward, Bell being forced to do it all alone, now forward from Marr, here's Ritchie, still Andy Ritchie, look at the control... That is a marvellous goal from Andy Ritchie. Twenty minutes on the clock and Morton's supporters come alive. A goal which epitomises the control, the arrogance, the cheek of Andy Ritchie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El gofer Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 July 23rd - 2016 - Kilmarnock 0-2 Morton (Oliver, Quitoingo) League Cup Group stage. A doddle against a top flight outfit whose players looked like they had only just met (and probably had). 2011 - Stranraer 0-8 Morton (Jackson 4, Di Giacomo 4) Challange Cup Fresh from 6-3 and 7-1 wins in recent years, we continue to stroll at Stair Park. This game accounted for half of di giacomos goals for us. He only scored.two in the league and only one after September. He was our third top scorer that season. Jackson only scored another 8. Wonder why we shipped them on!! 20.1.09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Von Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 This game accounted for half of di giacomos goals for us. He only scored.two in the league and only one after September. He was our third top scorer that season. Jackson only scored another 8. Wonder why we shipped them on!! I had high hopes for Andy Jackson when we signed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyrshireTon Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 25th July - 2015 - Morton 2-3 Dumbarton (Kilday, MacDonald pen) League Challenge Cup First game of the season and some comical defending let the Sons take a 3-0 lead. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsZYBx1j0Vw 2011 - Dumbarton 0-0 Morton (Morton won 4-3 on penalties) League Challenge Cup The shootout. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRtXmXvoWDI McGhee needs some support, there's no-one backing him up. Hayes playing it forward, Bell being forced to do it all alone, now forward from Marr, here's Ritchie, still Andy Ritchie, look at the control... That is a marvellous goal from Andy Ritchie. Twenty minutes on the clock and Morton's supporters come alive. A goal which epitomises the control, the arrogance, the cheek of Andy Ritchie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyrshireTon Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 July 26th - 2014 - Morton 1-0 Spartans (O'Neil) Challenge Cup. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru-AxIAJNtw 2009 - Dumbarton 0-1 Morton (Jenkins) Challenge Cup. I remember this because it was my son's first ever game. Being only 3 he enjoyed the minute's applause, applauding the goal and meeting Pele the elephant at half time. 1980 - Morton 4-2 Albion Rovers (Ritchie pen, Thomson 2, Tolmie) Drybrough Cup Quarter Final. This was a preseason tournament open to the eight highest scoring clubs across the leagues, started in the early 70s and brought back in 1979. This season would be its last. McGhee needs some support, there's no-one backing him up. Hayes playing it forward, Bell being forced to do it all alone, now forward from Marr, here's Ritchie, still Andy Ritchie, look at the control... That is a marvellous goal from Andy Ritchie. Twenty minutes on the clock and Morton's supporters come alive. A goal which epitomises the control, the arrogance, the cheek of Andy Ritchie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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