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What are you so afraid of? I dont get it.

 

He's afraid of losing his self-appointed standing in the support. Save the Ton was almost two decades ago, the Trust is gone and his mate's incompetence got found out when he was tasked with running the club. It's a long way down when you're placed yourself on a pedestal as the morale compass of the whole Morton support.   


You address me by my proper title, you little bollocks! 


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Last time I checked, the kitty is up to £21,000!

I keep the money in a bucket in the boot of the Lexus.

If a Lexus is the Japanese Mercedes, what is a Honda? A Honda Jazz to be specific.


You know I hate every pop star that I ever met.

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My nearest senior club is Queen’s Park, don’t think I’d go to watch them. Nearest non league clubs are Rutherglen Glencairn and Castlemilk Amateurs. Strangely enough I’d probably watch either of those before Queen’s Park, although if Morton went down I’m not sure any of those clubs would survive.

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If a Lexus is the Japanese Mercedes, what is a Honda? A Honda Jazz to be specific.

Excellent question.

 

I would have to say... it’s the Japanese Vauxhall Insignia!

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Excellent question.

I would have to say... it’s the Japanese Vauxhall Insignia!

It's like a cheese grater with wheels. It's nothing like a Vauxhall Insignia, which is like an English Mazda 626.


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It's like a cheese grater with wheels. It's nothing like a Vauxhall Insignia, which is like an English Mazda 626.

Cheese grater with wheels. Yes. I like that.

 

Does anyone else want to join in?

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The principle of both bodies however is to work on behalf of the fans as a whole though and to give us a united voice in the running of the club, unless I missed something over the last 20 years.

Surely it’s in the best interests of the support as a whole to hand on those shares to the body that has inherited that principle and responsibility in order to strengthen their position in acting on our behalf?

I certainly don’t recall when I joined the Trust, before they stopped accepting my membership fees that individuals getting a shareholding would be part of the deal.

If the Trust were to donate the shareholding to MCT, then that would give MCT a stronger hand in the running of the club and hasten any chances they have of getting a majority shareholding, instead of providing folk with share certificates that don't actually mean an awful lot beyond getting a copy of the accounts and getting to put their hand up to speak once a year, assuming a meeting isn’t conveniently scheduled to clash with a major sporting event.

I have no idea what the trust’s constitution says, but I suspect that the trust doesn’t actually own the shares, but just holds them on behalf of the trust members and loan note holders. That is why they are being distributed to the people concerned. Whether or not people then wanted to donate them to the MCT is a separate matter. I for one will be keeping my shares although will probably novate my voting rights to MCT unless they start screwing things up.


"Any nation given the opportunity to regain its national sovereignty and which then rejects it is so far beneath contempt that it is hard to put words to it."

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Even if all the Trust, MCT and other minor shareholders put their shares together it's not enough to have any influence legallly.

 

All it does is put some weight behind their argument.

 

I'm not sure if it actually happened but MCT were being given 15% and the shares the Trust paid for ended up being around 3% after being diluted over the years.

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I have no idea what the trust’s constitution says, but I suspect that the trust doesn’t actually own the shares, but just holds them on behalf of the trust members and loan note holders. That is why they are being distributed to the people concerned. Whether or not people then wanted to donate them to the MCT is a separate matter. I for one will be keeping my shares although will probably novate my voting rights to MCT unless they start screwing things up.

The Trust and members is pretty much the same thing. Some members didn't support MCT so shares went to individuals who can choose to donate or lend to MCT.

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He's afraid of losing his self-appointed standing in the support. Save the Ton was almost two decades ago, the Trust is gone and his mate's incompetence got found out when he was tasked with running the club. It's a long way down when you're placed yourself on a pedestal as the morale compass of the whole Morton support.   

Firstly I'd like to thank you for elevating me to a position I've never held. That has made me feel good about myself this morning. You shall bow down at my alter instead of me at yours your Highness. :angel:

 

None of my mates ,as far as I'm aware, have ever been "tasked with running the club." I'm sure they would all find that slightly amusing as do I.

 

Now that I've been elevated, by you, I'm away to check Amazon to see if they sell moral compass pedestals. I quite fancy one of those. :thumbup2:

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The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.

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Even if all the Trust, MCT and other minor shareholders put their shares together it's not enough to have any influence legallly.

 

All it does is put some weight behind their argument.

 

I'm not sure if it actually happened but MCT were being given 15% and the shares the Trust paid for ended up being around 3% after being diluted over the years.

Every journey starts with one step. A missed opportunity, imo.

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Every journey starts with one step. A missed opportunity, imo.

Aye, it's a first step for sure and the 15% isn't to be sniffed at so hopefully some of the other shareholders contribute.

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I only know one person on this board and I'm happy to keep it that way. I'm not interested in who's who and I'm happy to keep my identity private.

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^^^ Davie McArthur found.

:lol:  :lol:  :lol:

 

Nah, Morton are my team (with I must admit waning enthusiasm in recent years) and they will remain so until I or they die.

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:lol:  :lol:  :lol:

 

Nah, Morton are my team (with I must admit waning enthusiasm in recent years) and they will remain so until I or they die.

I thought you would be doing the Flemish equivalent of "Punk Rock Football" or "Football for Punks" that he was salivating about a few years back.

 

Funnily enough, we don't really hear anything of FCUM nowadays nowadays, I suppose the ascendency of Salford City as the 'great Manchester alternative' has consigned them to their inevitable fate of pub team insignificance.

 

Shame really. Not.


You know I hate every pop star that I ever met.

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I thought you would be doing the Flemish equivalent of "Punk Rock Football" or "Football for Punks" that he was salivating about a few years back.

Well I do go to watch my local team occasionally and they do have a predominantly left-wing fan base, if that's what you mean. :)

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How can you expect MCT to get answers to questions that the government don’t even know the answer to?

 

Regardless of what happens, MCT are offering financial backing to the club. Given that we already have something like 10 players under contract for next season, that will be crucial once furlough ends.

 

Long term, they are continuing their feasibility study into the possibility of community ownership, which will no doubt be asking a lot of the important questions.

An important point. Can the club afford to pay these players if furlough ends and the season has not started as I suspect that is what will happen. Playing behind closed doors wont be an option as so much of our revenue comes from fans.

Will the club offer a season ticket deal to help with finances, like Aberdeen have, or do they have other income via their insurance policy that covers this epidemic.

I think the club are being very quiet on the future. There really is nothing to stop them giving the fans an outlook of what the future holds given the possible scenarios that may develop. Last thing we need is a last minute panic if the club find itself in dire straits.

Time Dave McKinnon or Crawford Rae told the fans what the future may hold.

 

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Again though, they can’t really give the fans an insight as they’re not actually sure themselves. Yes, they can try and cobble together the bones of a strategy for some scenarios that may arise, but we’re at least months away from anything concrete - and that’s without even considering a second wave of the virus.

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Furlough scheme extended until October and will still give employees 80%, but from August some employers will be required to contribute to that 80% in some way. It's unclear how much or what the variations from industry to industry will be, but hopefully this will be enough to allow clubs to keep paying contracted employees in the likely event the 20/21 season hasn't started by then.


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Oh Lord, Brian Wake

 

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See Hamilton Accies have scrapped Season Tickets for next season and are all PATG. Cant see how that'll work better for them.

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See Hamilton Accies have scrapped Season Tickets for next season and are all PATG. Cant see how that'll work better for them.

 

I can see a few people being loathe to buy a season ticket. The savings are fairly small and if you miss a couple of games, non-existent.  With the shambes of an end to this season just past, and nobody actually knowing when football will restart, it probably makes sense.


"Any nation given the opportunity to regain its national sovereignty and which then rejects it is so far beneath contempt that it is hard to put words to it."

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Sounds like common sense not to sell something when they have no idea when fans will be able to attend. It'll make their budgeting more difficult but they'll have taken that into account.

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Sounds like common sense not to sell something when they have no idea when fans will be able to attend. It'll make their budgeting more difficult but they'll have taken that into account.

Their chief exec (i think) was on Clyde 1 and said they don't have enough fans for it to make a huge difference anyway.

 

Fwiw, morally its the right thing to do since there will likely be no fans before a vaccine. Clubs who are selling tickets are basically doing so as they need the money to survive.

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