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  1. NOPE! just not having that and disappointed that no one else has flagged this up. Maybe in your Texas hick town, but not here. I have been in and out of various hospitals in Larbert and Glasgow over the last few months and i can assure you that the nurses and indeed any hospital staff I have encountered have been absolutely superb and the treatment from the NHS in general has been outstanding.
    16 points
  2. Fuck them. In the first instance an asset stripper set out to kill us. Second time around, I don’t think it’s fair to suggest we hadn’t been asking questions about the continued losses, but critically, we took corrective action as a fanbase by forming MCT, making the club self sufficient and reaching an agreement with the previous owners over the debt and assets. Had the Raes demanded the debt back, Morton would still be around through the fans’ hard work, though probably without the same sympathetic publicity Inverness have received recently. And let’s not forget, Morton had debt in the region of £2 million after 20 years of Golden Casket. Inverness were losing close to a million a year for God knows how long, and lapping up the success it brought them. All I’ve seen from the Inverness fans is demands for resignations now the shit’s hit the fan, and very little by way of a plan B. They were happy enough to lap up the good times that were funded on tick, they can now accept the consequences.
    11 points
  3. Not really relevant to Championship anymore since relegation, but i wasn't passing up the opportunity to remind folk of that, Kelty apparently dont even own the pitch earmarked for ICT to train on and now Fife council want to weigh up their options since they own it. Not only have they managed to alienate the local bumpkin natives, their plans aren't even water tight. Wonderful.
    11 points
  4. Well given that the ITK crowd originally claimed that Strapp re-signing for the club was, err, Strapp's agent/chairman going over Dougie's head*, I think we can file this nonsense in the bin where it belongs. Unless Kelly has a functioning, 4D chess explanation of how those two entirely contradictory claims about politics at work within the club tie together. We will never have a functioning and successful football club while everyone from former employees, player's maws to taxi drivers in the street think that they have licence to stick their oar in at every opportunity. I don't know *how* that issue is resolved, but it is absolutely toxic to fan ownership and far more infuriating to me than whether any player does or does not re-sign a new contract. We can't even replace a goalkeeper coach without it being treated like the next Horizon-Post Office scandal by these tiresome attention-seekers. * That was naturally going to lead to a bust-up and the manager's resignation.
    10 points
  5. Livingston have the parachute payment and Martindale has openly said they'll have a "top four budget" (whether that budget survives their impending court cases is another matter). Hamilton again have a private owner willing to subsidise losses. None of us are ever going to know exact figures of budgets at each club, but there's a point where you can take all the information in the public domain and make realistic educated guesses, and doing so allows you to see that the only possible candidates for having a smaller budget are Airdrie and at a significant push Hamilton, with any other conclusion being delusion. It's been stated publicly by Falkirk that they're going to budget 400K losses in perpetuity as long as they're outside the top flight despite being partly fan owned and having an average attendance over 4K. It's also been stated publicly by board members of The Jags Foundation (Partick's MCT equivalent) that despite reducing their budget from 22/23, they still budgeted a six-figure loss this season, despite being fan owned and having an average attendance of 3.5K. Every other club has a private owner who are, for however long, willing to support six figure losses. Dunfermline are another club with more than double our average attendance, whose owners supported a seven figure loss in 22/23 to get out of League One. Raith have had a huge influx of 'conservatory' money from the same 'businesspeople' who bankrolled Kelty to League One before deciding they'd reached their ceiling, and that was reflected in their recruitment last summer with the winning team on the park then seeing their attendances surge. Then you come to the clubs whose attendances are around the same level or smaller than ours. Livingston as mentioned have the parachute payment, and are clearly outspending us for players as proven by Muirhead going there. Ayr's private owner is wiling to plough money in and they're clearly outspending us for players as proven by Oakley going there, with journalists willing to state as fact that their offer was a 50% increase on ours. They have been outspending us for several years as per McAdams, McGinty, Fjortoft and Salkeld making that move as well. That their private owner actually has a modicum of sense unlike the Raes and is also spending on infrastructure around the stadium that could generate revenue is to his credit and could see them move ahead of us in commercial income in future, but it's clear that they were already comfortably outspending us on the first team budget regardless. Queen's Park are rolling in Lord Haughey's money and have been spending astronomical sums since they were in League Two. Even before our move to fan ownership, Bob McHugh and Peter Grant left us to drop two divisions to them because they got enough of a wage increase to make it worth their while. In the time since their budget has only grown, with them regularly beating other Championship clubs to players who are being chased by half the division like Paton and Savoury. Hamilton were taken over last summer and have spent to get out of League One, there's little reason to doubt they'll continue to do so but we at least don't have the same obvious evidence of their budget dwarfing ours that we have with everyone else. That only leaves Airdrie, which considering they were 4th and we were 5th is enough proof that the budget doesn't guarantee a relegation battle, but it's clearly the reality that we're a long way off other clubs financially and we need excellent recruitment to compete. The squads that have delivered two consecutive 5th placed finishes have contained Baird (Ayr reject), Oakley (Inverness reject), Gillespie & Quitongo (Queen's Park rejects), Crawford (Partick reject who was clubless in August), Wilson & Ambrose (Dunfermline rejects). We just need to trust Imrie to find bargains of that calibre again among players not wanted by other Championship clubs rather than the Steven Boyd level of reject.
    10 points
  6. https://www.fitbastats.com/morton/club_records_league_attendance.php Our attendance last season was easily the highest since COVID and not a kick in the baws away from our 2nd placed finish in 12/13. Given that we had no Saturday game against Dundee United and had no derby to speak of either, the idea that we're failing to draw crowds is utter, utter bullshit by any objective measurement. Here's the dirty secret that half the fanbase refuses to accept: Greenock Morton's core support has never been particularly large since the modern league setup was put in place in the 1970s. It was also - until very recently - a largely walk-up and pay culture, which worked well for the customer but explains why season ticket comparisons with other clubs are not relevant. No gesture of 'ambishun' is necessary here. We need to grow the fanbase over time with initiatives like Team Ton for weans (also stop the moron, guardianship nonsense turning away under 16s on matchday at the gate). We did IMO miss a trick with the final dead rubber game last season to voucher weans and New Scots in the area to stop both slithering towards the ugly sisters. More can be done to grow the fanbase but the focus has to be on that - attracting new customers - rather than indulging the 30 year old myth that if only the team was slightly better then we'd be packing Cappielow out on a regular basis. That bullshit needs to die before we can actually have nice things.
    9 points
  7. Interested in the workings behind this. Who are these people and what makes you think that if we can’t get them during a prolonged run of form like we had last season, they’ll all of a sudden come out the woodwork and start following the club on a regular enough basis for the increase in crowds to be significantly noticeable? Is that all we need, a shot at promotion? Or should the club be more pro-active in attracting fans (like the kids’ supporters group formed this summer)? Why weren’t they bothering last season, or the season before, when we were in a strong position to make the play-offs at certain points in each season? How many people are you talking about that are sitting waiting to return as regular supporters? Has nothing changed since those days that we could command a bigger crowd? Cost of living? Depopulation? Increased influence of foreign leagues? The fallout from the death of Rangers? Increase in alternative leisure options? Changes in working patterns? A sweeping statement such as this, with nothing to back it up, doesn’t really stand up to any serious scrutiny.
    8 points
  8. Given we offered better deals to those 'best players' then there's no reason to suggest that we won't. Not that it'll be guaranteed or easy to do, but that's the job of Imrie and the board every single summer. if we were in the same tentative financial position as 12 months ago and losing these players then the knicker-wetting hysteria would be justified. We aren't though and so it's not.
    8 points
  9. That's it exactly. It's disappointing but realistic. We are where we are: the cavalry isn't coming, there's nobody with a fat checkbook allowing us to run up losses. MCT has done very well to get Dalrada and other sponsors on board but that's what they are: sponsors. They're not a license to outspend clubs that just objectively have greater income and in many cases wealthy benefactors. Whether or not offering Strapp less was the right decision remains to be seen. He could play 36 flawless games and lead Dunfermline to the title or he could get injured in August. But in my opinion Imrie has earned the right to build his own squad without people losing their minds over it. Whether our General Manager's negotiations, too, turn out to work is an open question, but I think the club hierarchy has also earned a level of trust here. People need to remember: the Rae regime spent big and had very little to show for it at the end. Those years with genuinely impressive attendances and "a buzz about the place" were the exception, and didn't result in lasting success.
    7 points
  10. We need to get that Fat Matt character to shout at people from a passing motor. That's what Morton have been doing wrong all those years.
    7 points
  11. Knicker wetting about a goalie coach might be a new low for this forum.
    7 points
  12. Footballers are on fixed contracts who have an established mechanism to bargain for their wages called free agency. Binmen and indeed any other permanent employees do not. So yes, quite a critical difference there.
    7 points
  13. Livi have had a similar clearout to us, Airdrie have had their promotion bounce, Hamilton are unlikely to be brilliant, Ayr are Ayr, Queens Park appear locked in a permashambles behind the scenes. Partick and Raith will likely lose players to the bottom 6. We've still got about 10 players to sign and its only May. The players we've lost weren't irreplaceable superstars at this level, and I include Strapp and Oakley in that.
    7 points
  14. https://x.com/partickthistle/status/1793688541345542396?s=46&t=mPi-CBP2m1lKxRNMQCkJuA That’s Crawford signed for Partick, then. Pre-contract, which I assume means he’s contracted until the end of May or June. If that’s the case, get him painting the crush barriers in the Cowshed and deep cleaning the bogs until it expires.
    7 points
  15. Just for future reference, board etiquette dictates that henceforth 'Raith' must always be prefixed with 'Big-Spending'.
    6 points
  16. Ridiculous to demonise an entire profession on the basis of a few perceived situations that were almost certainly done on instructions from above. These people were risking their lives dealing with a virus that, at least in the early days, was an unknown quantity with no known cure - all they could do was try to treat the symptoms and the effects of the virus. I was told by the doctor in the ICU ward that I was in that they had no information to inform them of what to do, so it was really trial and error. At the time, PPE was in short supply and staff were taking huge risks to help their patients, and isolation was one of the ways of trying to reduce the spead. maybe your experience is based on the uSA which seems to be a fairly vicious society where life is cheap if you're not hugely wealthy, but certainly in Scotland, the nursing profession worked like trojans to help their patients, with some of the staff dying themselves from infections caught in the course of their work. Your take on this is frankly ludicrous. Maybe aim your ire at your eponymous presidential pal Donald who didn't exactly cover himself in glory with his rantings during the pandemic.
    6 points
  17. Was it the nurses themselves who unilaterally decided to stop folk from seeing their dying relatives, or were they instructed to do so by their hospital management and/or health authorities? If it's the latter, should they not be the target of your hatred? And I would suspect the incident where a nurse allegedly called the cops when an unconscious person's mask fell off was specific to that one nurse, and not the whole profession?
    6 points
  18. https://x.com/Morton_FC/status/1801555183618453937?t=AY_GmBo-YaHoJnsAXIFRDA&s=19
    5 points
  19. Turns out via the local rag (yet strangely unreported on for a change here) that the club, err, offered David Scott a contract which he chose to turn down. So the highlighted claim above was in fact completely unfounded nonsense - par for the course since the Inverness game on here.
    5 points
  20. Not even editing that in the hope that I get lucky.
    5 points
  21. Shimmin’s probably the one whose behaviour was closest to Bachirou’s if the rumours were to be believed. Nowhere to be seen because of mysterious injuries before declaring himself fit and raring to go as we were pulled out the hat with Celtic in the Scottish Cup. That said, nobody’s looking back too fondly on the “part time ‘baller, full time rocker’s” Morton career or in any mood to welcome him back with open arms, so his legacy with the majority of the support is very much in line with Bachirou’s is with the more learned among us.
    5 points
  22. He was under contract. It was his fucking job to play for us.
    5 points
  23. Fantastic news regarding Blues. Compliments Wilson well in midfield, barely misses a game and covers multiple positions. Thankfully those who seem unwilling to appreciate how much he’s improved in his years with us appear to be in an ever decreasing minority.
    5 points
  24. True. He'll have no means of communication while he's away.
    5 points
  25. I'd forgotten about O'Connor completely and would like to think the club have too. That contract offer should have been either signed or taken away at the start of this month.
    4 points
  26. The importance that some people fixate to 'which clubs a player's maw/aunt/dug follows', on the fetid shithole once known as Twitter, is bizarre.
    4 points
  27. It's very likely going to be cyclical with Raith. Their support and season ticket sales were no better than ours two seasons ago, but they got a positive mood among the support after a takeover then those new owners spent an absolute fortune putting a winning team on the park, with the results and title challenge which followed feeding into growing the fanbase. Maybe this is going to be a permanent shift, but it's far more likely that this growth will last exactly as long as title challenging does - if they go back to midtable obscurity they go back to crowds around the same level as us and Ayr, perhaps retaining 5 or 10% of those who started going regularly when they were good. While you can ask why our own excellent runs of form haven't brought crowds out to the same degree, we've also had poor to dreadful first quarters in the last two seasons; then when fans did start coming out in numbers for the Partick game casual fans were met with missing the first 20 minutes of the game thanks to Warren Hawke, which wasn't going to encourage them to rush back. You're simply not going to capture the imagination of people who came out for the Motherwell and Hearts games to turn them into season ticket holders with "a good run of form around Christmas is giving us a shout of the top four" the same way you can with a good first quarter that allows momentum to build throughout the season, with the message instead being "this good run of form has established us as serious title challengers" then maintaining that through a season. I'm not saying it's realistic for the club to do the latter without the entirely legitimate funding of Raith or gambling the whole club's future on promotion like Partick, but that's the critical difference with Raith.
    4 points
  28. Put the crack pipe down.
    4 points
  29. Maybe ask Jimmy Gourlay to google it for you
    4 points
  30. Well no we don't - they're hardly going to say 'by the way, my current goalkeeping coach is utter shite' in a standard interview are they? I'm not saying that's the case with Scott but plaudits from a player while contracted are as meaningless as plaudits given to 'Hoppy', McInally or any other inspirational presence/total dud. More generally - not aimed at your specific post - I can't really get worked up about one person leaving their job when we have no idea what the plan is yet. The willingness to jump to negative conclusions from some quarters at least every single time news comes out of Cappielow right now is getting tiresome. If this is how we're going to react right now then fan ownership will die on its arse the moment where we actually suffer a serious setback like relegation.
    4 points
  31. The Challenge Cup format always pisses me off. I’ve never been as fussed about the trips to Ireland or Wales as others, possibly because they tend to coincide with internationals, though I understand how many folk do and sympathise with them missing out, and the B Teams’ inclusion was of course expected, but disgraceful nevertheless. It can’t go without comment, as by doing so, we head towards the stage of acceptance, which we should never reach. But if we’re going with this format, the inclusion of Albion Rovers, Cowdenbeath, Berwick and East Stirling, instead of Cumbernauld Colts, Tranent, Civil Service Strollers and Linlithgow Rose, all of whom finished higher in the Lowland League is scandalous. The tournament criteria being based on historical status rather than footballing merit stinks to the high heavens and this policy should be binned immediately. I suspect the FAW and IFA have probably had enough of the competition impinging on their domestic calendars, which wouldn’t normally be terribly affected by international breaks, but if we’re going down the route of organising the tournament properly, either a 32 team straight knock out, with the 30 SPFL clubs, Buckie and EK, or a 64 team straight knock out which would conveniently fit in the 18 Highland League and 16 of the 18 Lowland League clubs. Just bin Celtic B and Hearts B and you’ve got a smashing competition, which I doubt would lose much in prestige given how little coverage even the Rangers and Celtic B teams get in the competition. Everyone’s a winner, but those suggestions would be far too straightforward.
    4 points
  32. Raith Rovers humiliate themselves and the Scottish Championship in general by getting scudded 4-0 in the second leg of the promotion play-off, slumping to a tennis score defeat over the two legs. The most terrible and wee-est of shames.
    4 points
  33. Brian Graham skies a gilt edged chance for a last minute winner for Partick. His side go on to lose the tie on penalties.
    4 points
  34. Just read an article by Liam Grimshaw in the latest Nutmeg magazine. He speaks really highly of Morton as a community club and Scottish football as a whole. It’s brilliantly written, verging on poetic at times. Didn’t know he had that in his locker!
    3 points
  35. He turned up in the only game that mattered, swording Falkirk.
    3 points
  36. Think that it’s time we moved on. He was offered a deal and it was rejected. Time to look foward…..
    3 points
  37. If I was the coach of that kids team I would have dropped her kid from the team indefinitely as a result of her actions.
    3 points
  38. I don't think it's terribly complicated. When new owners/investor comes into a club with the aim of funding a club moving up a level or two, it creates a buzz which attracts additional supporters. It happened with us in the early Rae days. The fact that we paid transfer fees on players like Williams and Weatherson, attracted players from a higher level, and made significant stadium improvements helped to create something that people wanted to be part of. To think that we had over 5000 fans for a January league match against Gretna. It's about the buzz created around the feeling of potential that investment brings.
    3 points
  39. No Science to it but I've been going to games at Cappielow since the late 70's, slightly & left the area in the mid eighties. The area has been on a downward population spiral for several decades (Peak in the 50's?), so catchment is down. The last generation to see top flight football saw it 36 years ago, much further back than most of our 'rivals'. As the hard-core attracted by earlier success get older (I'm hitting 60) & potential new fanbase drops with population, well, really go figure. Morton really needs something to happen.
    3 points
  40. The business development exec is there purely for the purpose of generating incremental revenue for the club. The payment is commission based, so I think it’s fair to say that whoever gets the job will only be staying in it if they generate new income for the club which more than covers the cost of the position. Is it “absolutely neccesary”? No, probably not. But we spent 20 odd years under the Raes ignoring the commercial side of the club and look where it got us. Focusing on this sort of thing will only serve to strengthen our financial position in the future, and reduce the clubs reliance on fan hand-outs & favourable cup draws to turn a profit
    3 points
  41. It's great to see action and movement. In Dougie we trust. Mr. Blue (2 posts above) is so happy that he's kissing anyone.
    3 points
  42. For me the thing is that I've never seen any evidence of the allegations against Fred, or heard anyone at the club at the time say anything bad about him. I don't even know the particularities. So why should I call him names or criticise him based on the hearsay of others. The facts that I know are he left, we got some decent money out of it, and we went on to win promotion that season. From the position of the knowledge I have, I'm not sure what I have to complain about.
    3 points
  43. You'll fit in well. Welcome.
    3 points
  44. I think we need to be realistic. We do have one of the lowest budgets in the league. Dougie has worked wonders in his time here with the resources at his disposal and I trust that he will do so again. Of the players that's left I wouldn't be surprised if Muirhead knew for a while that he was leaving. Largely down to his relationship with sections of the fanbase. Oakley and Crawford are the 2 I'd have loved to have kept but have chosen to move on for more money which is fair enough. The only other one I'm really keen to keep is strapp but looks like he's off as well. We need to remember what Dougie has done in previous transfer windows and how he's brought players in who were out of form, struggling etc and got a tune out of them. We are still in May and we have plenty of time to get players in. No doubt there will be decisions that raa few eyebrows which happens at every club but I'm happy to wait and see how it all pans out. disclaimer....If we are in a similar position come the start of the league Cup then I'll delete this post and ignore all knowledge of it lol
    3 points
  45. None of this good will pish for Oakley. He's spouted for months about how he loves the club and he needed us not the other way around - turned his career around - and he fucks off at the first chance, for a league rival no less. Hopefully leave a few on him next season, along with Crawford and Muirhead. Only right as we are "big bad Morton".
    3 points
  46. Bachirou can get himself to fuck.
    3 points
  47. Blues confirmed for 2 years. https://x.com/Morton_FC/status/1793945198084391389
    3 points
  48. Any well wishes are now gone. Horrible club
    3 points
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