Cet Homme Charmant Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 Who on earth thought it was a good idea to appoint a player's agent as club Chairman in the first place? Should have been blindingly obvious there was a huge conflict of interest. Mental. He surely has to resign from one of these roles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BishopBrennan Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 It is a massive conflict of interests. I'd assumed when taking the role of chairman that Laird had stepped away from agency work. Acting as a consultant to the board was an excellent set-up, whereby the club gained footballing expertise and contacts, with no votes being cast by someone who has skin in the game other than the best interests of Greenock Morton. I'm not suggesting that the chairman has, or indeed ever will, act or vote in anything other than the best interests of the club, but this blurring of lines is unacceptable and sets a precedent that could easily be abused in the future. The idea that the person with the deciding vote in the boardroom, and who acts as a figurehead of the club, has the potential to behave as a lobbyist on behalf of certain players and managers is a clear conflict of interests. I know the restrictions surrounding agents are far less restrictive than they are for players and coaches, but the idea of John Laird the chairman negotiating a deal with John Laird the agent for the services of a player such as Lewis Strapp is ludicrous. I know that Laird also represents Michael Tidser, so I can't wait to see him heavily linked with the managerial vacancy once Imrie moves on. I'd like to see this position clarified by MCT or the club immediately. You address me by my proper title, you little bollocks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Blue Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, BishopBrennan said: It is a massive conflict of interests. I'd assumed when taking the role of chairman that Laird had stepped away from agency work. Acting as a consultant to the board was an excellent set-up, whereby the club gained footballing expertise and contacts, with no votes being cast by someone who has skin in the game other than the best interests of Greenock Morton. I'm not suggesting that the chairman has, or indeed ever will, act or vote in anything other than the best interests of the club, but this blurring of lines is unacceptable and sets a precedent that could easily be abused in the future. The idea that the person with the deciding vote in the boardroom, and who acts as a figurehead of the club, has the potential to behave as a lobbyist on behalf of certain players and managers is a clear conflict of interests. I know the restrictions surrounding agents are far less restrictive than they are for players and coaches, but the idea of John Laird the chairman negotiating a deal with John Laird the agent for the services of a player such as Lewis Strapp is ludicrous. I know that Laird also represents Michael Tidser, so I can't wait to see him heavily linked with the managerial vacancy once Imrie moves on. I'd like to see this position clarified by MCT or the club immediately. Dream Oak Tree has a direct line to MCT, the board, Dougie and Cappie. I'm sure he'll be able to enlighten us. There's a storm on the horizon And for that I can't see the sun For I'll keep a waiting on the pavement For the ice cream van to come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BishopBrennan Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 12 minutes ago, Mr.Blue said: Dream Oak Tree has a direct line to MCT, the board, Dougie and Cappie. I'm sure he'll be able to enlighten us. I heard it was Dream Oak Tree that was camped out in mysterious 'blind room' all these years. At night he also turns the centre circle into a landing pad for Ed de Ball's helicopter. You address me by my proper title, you little bollocks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 Since when did the chairman automatically have the 'deciding vote in the board room'? That is (for a change) a genuine question. GMFC is not being run by Douglas Rae any more - we should have a clear sense of how the decision-making procedure works at board room level. Establishing that is key before jumping to any conclusions. If decisions are being recorded and made taken by a simple majority vote then being The Chairman doesn't actually matter too much other than having a fancier title and representing the club at SPFL/SFA business. If there's a conflict of interest involving any board member - which if we want some credible business-minded people in the room then there will be from time to time - then they should declare that conflict of interest and recuse themselves from the decision-making process. We need to clearly establish whether those procedures are in place. If they are, then the onus is on other board members (including the MCT half) to apply them. I see no presumption to alarm without evidence that those procedures are being broken or not being applied at all. The site is supposed to be a place for the extended 'family' of Morton supporters - having an affinity with people that you don't know, because you share a love of your local football club. It's not supposed to be about point scoring and showing how 'clever' or 'funny' you are, or just being downright rude and offensive to people you don't know, because you can get away with it. Unfortunately, it seems the classic case of people who have little standing/presence in real life, use this forum as a way of making themselves feel as if they are something. It's sad, and I've said that before.. So, having been on Morton forums for about 15 years I guess, I've had enough... well done t*ssers, another Morton supporter driven away. You can all feel happy at how 'clever' you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamOakTree Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 20 hours ago, Mr.Blue said: Dream Oak Tree has a direct line to MCT, the board, Dougie and Cappie. I'm sure he'll be able to enlighten us. There’s nothing to enlighten you on. What’s being said is what is happening, so I don’t need to waste MCT’s time on such a trivial matter, compared with the only tree concerns I have contacted them about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cet Homme Charmant Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 7 minutes ago, DreamOakTree said: There’s nothing to enlighten you on. What’s being said is what is happening, so I don’t need to waste MCT’s time on such a trivial matter, compared with the only tree concerns I have contacted them about. Dutch elm disease? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamOakTree Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Cet Homme Charmant said: Dutch elm disease? Good to see you’re taking this seriously! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cet Homme Charmant Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 39 minutes ago, DreamOakTree said: Good to see you’re taking this seriously! I certainly don't take you seriously, ya muppet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamOakTree Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 38 minutes ago, Cet Homme Charmant said: I certainly don't take you seriously, ya muppet Which is why you spellcheck my posts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cappiecat 1.2 Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 1 minute ago, DreamOakTree said: Which is why you spellcheck my posts? What were your tree concerns? 1. Dougie’s policy towards our youth players. 2.? 3.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cet Homme Charmant Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, DreamOakTree said: Which is why you spellcheck my posts? Spell checking deluded muppets is one of the few pleasures I have left in life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONofmemories Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 7 minutes ago, DreamOakTree said: Which is why you spellcheck my posts? Spell check your hard drive, you creep TIME FOR CHANGE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamOakTree Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 31 minutes ago, Cappiecat 1.2 said: What were your tree concerns? 1. Dougie’s policy towards our youth players. 2.? 3.? 1. Q. Is Cappielow going to be owned by the club or by the Rae’s? (At time of considering joining MCT). A. The club. 2. Do the club want promotion? (Following Darragh O’Conner revealing last season that the manager told him as they’d reached their target of 40 points they were just to enjoy their football for the rest of the season, and persisting in playing the on-loan under-performing Hamilton midfielder, plus a source saying the club didn’t want promotion as they wouldn’t have the ground ready on time.) A. It will be difficult but with the extra funds we’ll make sure we’re ready for the start of next season if promoted. 3. Are the club happy with the way our academy graduates, whose careers are on the way up, are being allowed to leave, whilst preferring to sign older players whose careers are on the way down? A. The board have already asked the manager to outline his plans on academy players and recruitment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cet Homme Charmant Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 41 minutes ago, DreamOakTree said: A. The board have already asked the manager to outline his plans on academy players and recruitment. From that how did you conclude that Dougie has changed his approach to playing Academy players, ya deluded muppet? His response could well have been (and probably was) something along the lines of, 'I'll play them when I think they're ready, and not before'. Dougie does not seem the like the sort of guy who would entertain any sort of interference in team selections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Blue Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 55 minutes ago, DreamOakTree said: 1. Q. Is Cappielow going to be owned by the club or by the Rae’s? (At time of considering joining MCT). A. The club. 2. Do the club want promotion? (Following Darragh O’Conner revealing last season that the manager told him as they’d reached their target of 40 points they were just to enjoy their football for the rest of the season, and persisting in playing the on-loan under-performing Hamilton midfielder, plus a source saying the club didn’t want promotion as they wouldn’t have the ground ready on time.) A. It will be difficult but with the extra funds we’ll make sure we’re ready for the start of next season if promoted. 3. Are the club happy with the way our academy graduates, whose careers are on the way up, are being allowed to leave, whilst preferring to sign older players whose careers are on the way down? A. The board have already asked the manager to outline his plans on academy players and recruitment. Who was the under performing Hamilton midfielder? There's a storm on the horizon And for that I can't see the sun For I'll keep a waiting on the pavement For the ice cream van to come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamOakTree Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 31 minutes ago, Mr.Blue said: Who was the under performing Hamilton midfielder? Sorry St. Johnstone, can’t remember his name but I remember his presence on the pitch derailed our portion push. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamOakTree Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 40 minutes ago, Cet Homme Charmant said: From that how did you conclude that Dougie has changed his approach to playing Academy players, ya deluded muppet? His response could well have been (and probably was) something along the lines of, 'I'll play them when I think they're ready, and not before'. Dougie does not seem the like the sort of guy who would entertain any sort of interference in team selections. I don’t think they so much interfered, more asked him to share his thoughts on academy players as the club have invested in that part of the club structure. I find it baffling that no-one else makes the same conclusion, based on Dougie’s completely welcome turnaround based on the board’s concerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cet Homme Charmant Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 18 minutes ago, DreamOakTree said: I don’t think they so much interfered, more asked him to share his thoughts on academy players as the club have invested in that part of the club structure. I find it baffling that no-one else makes the same conclusion, based on Dougie’s completely welcome turnaround based on the board’s concerns. Nice theory, apart from the fact you keep ignoring that there has been no turnaround, except in your deluded head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SassenachTon Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 3 hours ago, DreamOakTree said: Which is why you spellcheck my posts? Most folks spellcheck their own posts. I've always found that it helps me to avoid looking like an illiterate chump. Such as the post above referring to a 'portion push'........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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