Mr.Blue Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 Thought id get this started early. It will be interesting to see what line up Grady goes for. Fingers crossed that peter keeps up his terrific goalscoring record at Palmerston. Team Id like to see- Stewart McGuffie Dom Greacen Reid McAlister McFarlane Tidser McKinlay Peter Simmonds Subs- Cuthbert, Jenkins, Paartalu, Graham, Russell 2-1 ton. Peter and Dom There's a storm on the horizon And for that I can't see the sun For I'll keep a waiting on the pavement For the ice cream van to come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 This game will probably be off tbh. The site is supposed to be a place for the extended 'family' of Morton supporters - having an affinity with people that you don't know, because you share a love of your local football club. It's not supposed to be about point scoring and showing how 'clever' or 'funny' you are, or just being downright rude and offensive to people you don't know, because you can get away with it. Unfortunately, it seems the classic case of people who have little standing/presence in real life, use this forum as a way of making themselves feel as if they are something. It's sad, and I've said that before.. So, having been on Morton forums for about 15 years I guess, I've had enough... well done t*ssers, another Morton supporter driven away. You can all feel happy at how 'clever' you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThornTON Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 2-1 ton. Peter and Dom That's a bold prediction, for Shimmin to do something he's never done in his senior career! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centralTON Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 This game will probably be off tbh. You're such an optomist. And feel free to correct any spelling mistakes mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThornTON Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 It's not to go below -1, and it's to be sunny Wednesday, Thursday and Friday... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Naitch Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 Going for a 2-1 win for the 'Ton - Peter to get both. "To be the man, you gotta beat the man" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centralTON Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 Going for a 2-1 win for the 'Ton - Peter to get both. Obviously I'd take any win, but can see a 0-0 draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dream Oak Tree Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 That's a bold prediction, for Shimmin to do something he's never done in his senior career! I think he mean't Don!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Nu Sport Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 Thought id get this started early. It will be interesting to see what line up Grady goes for. Fingers crossed that peter keeps up his terrific goalscoring record at Palmerston. Team Id like to see- Stewart McGuffie Dom Greacen Reid McAlister McFarlane Tidser McKinlay Peter Simmonds Subs- Cuthbert, Jenkins, Paartalu, Graham, Russell 2-1 ton. Peter and Dom Whilst I'd quite like to see the line up you describe, given Grady's comments I'd expect McKinlay to play at LB, Reid to switch to RB, leaving wingers unchanged from the usual (unless McGuffie scrapes in ahead of Finlayson) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alibi Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 We are due a draw. If our recent games at Palmerston are any guide, FT 3-3 with us being 3-0 up at half time. "Any nation given the opportunity to regain its national sovereignty and which then rejects it is so far beneath contempt that it is hard to put words to it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Blue Posted February 8, 2010 Author Share Posted February 8, 2010 That's a bold prediction, for Shimmin to do something he's never done in his senior career! The big man is due a goal. A real Roy of the Rovers effort where he collects the ball in his own half beats 6 players and rattles one into the top corner There's a storm on the horizon And for that I can't see the sun For I'll keep a waiting on the pavement For the ice cream van to come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONofmemories Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 Thought id get this started early. It will be interesting to see what line up Grady goes for. Fingers crossed that peter keeps up his terrific goalscoring record at Palmerston. Team Id like to see- Stewart McGuffie Dom Greacen Reid McAlister McFarlane Tidser McKinlay Peter Simmonds Subs- Cuthbert, Jenkins, Paartalu, Graham, Russell 2-1 ton. Peter and Dom really like the look of that team, however i don't think he will drop kev. and i don't think he will \play mckinlay on the left wing. he will probs play left back. but that to me looks like a pretty decent team. TIME FOR CHANGE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThornTON Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 The big man is due a goal. A real Roy of the Rovers effort where he collects the ball in his own half beats 6 players and rattles one into the top corner A Dave McPherson type effort up at Ochilview? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piehutt Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 Team along these lines... ----------------Stewart--------------------- McGuffie---Greacan--Shimmin--McKinlay Finlayson--Jenkins--McFarlane-McAllister -----------Weatherson-Simmonds--------- Subs. Monti, Reid, Russell, Graham, Paartalu. Twitter... tweet tweet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dream Oak Tree Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 Stewart McGuffie Dom Greacen Reid McAlister McFarlane Tidser McKinlay Peter Simmonds really like the look of that team, however i don't think he will drop kev. and i don't think he will \play mckinlay on the left wing. he will probs play left back. but that to me looks like a pretty decent team. I tend to agree, though it still leaves the question of whether a holding player is needed with a back four. Grady appears to favour Jenkins and Tidser to give more creativity. With Kev and Jimbo out wide and McFarlane holding, we seem to only have one creative midfielder, whether Tidser or Jenkins. I'd say play a holding midfielder only for cover if we play a back three or if we're using overlapping full backs in a 4-3-3. Otherwise I just don't think we can afford to use up a midfield slot with a holding player. I think one possibility is the system we used when Derek McInnes was here, an overlapping full-back (Collins) on one side, and a winger (Rajamaki) on the other. This would allow us to play a holding player yet still have width plus two creative midfielders. The system could be reversed with McKinlay overlapping on the left and Jimbo on the right wing. I just think it's a bit unrealistic right now to look for the ideal of two natural overlapping full backs and two natural wingers. We have to get the best out of what's available, and I just don't think our current system allows that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Blue Posted February 8, 2010 Author Share Posted February 8, 2010 A Dave McPherson type effort up at Ochilview? The very same! There's a storm on the horizon And for that I can't see the sun For I'll keep a waiting on the pavement For the ice cream van to come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alibi Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 I tend to agree, though it still leaves the question of whether a holding player is needed with a back four. Grady appears to favour Jenkins and Tidser to give more creativity. With Kev and Jimbo out wide and McFarlane holding, we seem to only have one creative midfielder, whether Tidser or Jenkins. I'd say play a holding midfielder only for cover if we play a back three or if we're using overlapping full backs in a 4-3-3. Otherwise I just don't think we can afford to use up a midfield slot with a holding player. I think one possibility is the system we used when Derek McInnes was here, an overlapping full-back (Collins) on one side, and a winger (Rajamaki) on the other. This would allow us to play a holding player yet still have width plus two creative midfielders. The system could be reversed with McKinlay overlapping on the left and Jimbo on the right wing. I just think it's a bit unrealistic right now to look for the ideal of two natural overlapping full backs and two natural wingers. We have to get the best out of what's available, and I just don't think our current system allows that. That's an interesting point. Most tactical formations tend to be symmetrical left to right - however if you take into account the differences in strengths of the opposition in different positions, logically you would on occasion come to the conclusion that an asymmetric formation would be the best one for a particular game. It might incidentally help to deal with the relative scarcity of naturally left footed players. In nearly 50 years of watching and playing football, I don't think that has ever occurred to me before. "Any nation given the opportunity to regain its national sovereignty and which then rejects it is so far beneath contempt that it is hard to put words to it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dream Oak Tree Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 That's an interesting point. Most tactical formations tend to be symmetrical left to right - however if you take into account the differences in strengths of the opposition in different positions, logically you would on occasion come to the conclusion that an asymmetric formation would be the best one for a particular game. It might incidentally help to deal with the relative scarcity of naturally left footed players. In nearly 50 years of watching and playing football, I don't think that has ever occurred to me before. I think we sometimes assume it's only Morton who can't find natural wingers or left footed players. As you say there's a bit of a general scarcity in the game. The last time I remember Morton having the luxury of two overlapping full-backs and two natural wingers, was around 1979, when we had Hayes, Holmes, Tolmie and McNeil. I think our dearth of any such players over the last few seasons has made us think we need natural players in all four wide positions. If we had the suggested one on each side it wouldn't be so glaringly deficient. This is how I'd attempt to copy Allan McGraw's formation using our current players: 1990's version (if memory serves me): ----------------------------------------Wylie------------------------------------------ --------------------------Boag-------------------------Doak-------------McPherson? Collins--------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------McInnes-----------Mahood------------Lindberg------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------Rajamaki --------------------------Lilley--------------------Alexander-------------------------- Today's version: --------------------------------------Stewart------------------------------------------- McGuffie----------------Greacen-------------------Shimmin------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------McKinlay ------------------Jenkins------------McFarlane------------Tidser--------------------- McAlister-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------Weatherson-------------Simmonds--------------------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortonfc123 Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 i think we should line up like this stewart ried shimmon greacon mckinly kane tisder mcguffie monti weatherson simmonds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Blue Posted February 8, 2010 Author Share Posted February 8, 2010 I think we sometimes assume it's only Morton who can't find natural wingers or left footed players. As you say there's a bit of a general scarcity in the game. The last time I remember Morton having the luxury of two overlapping full-backs and two natural wingers, was around 1979, when we had Hayes, Holmes, Tolmie and McNeil. I think our dearth of any such players over the last few seasons has made us think we need natural players in all four wide positions. If we had the suggested one on each side it wouldn't be so glaringly deficient. This is how I'd attempt to copy Allan McGraw's formation using our current players: 1990's version (if memory serves me): ----------------------------------------Wylie------------------------------------------ --------------------------Boag-------------------------Doak-------------McPherson? Collins--------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------McInnes-----------Mahood------------Lindberg------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------Rajamaki --------------------------Lilley--------------------Alexander-------------------------- Today's version: --------------------------------------Stewart------------------------------------------- McGuffie----------------Greacen-------------------Shimmin------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------McKinlay ------------------Jenkins------------McFarlane------------Tidser--------------------- McAlister-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------Weatherson-------------Simmonds--------------------------- Did Super Scott MacArthur not play at left back during that time? There's a storm on the horizon And for that I can't see the sun For I'll keep a waiting on the pavement For the ice cream van to come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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