A Swing In The General Consensus?

[NorgieTon]

Carl Bertelson and Piehut are right

Get a grip , you Tossers trying to get a man the sack.

We are mid table, every team wants to do well.

 

Of course you could do better Ha Ha , and you would have the confidence and respect of the dressingroom,

Kick a ball, most of you would get beaten by a one legged man in a arse kicking contest.

 

But then again you know better than a man who has played the game at the top level," My Arse"

 

JM is doing ok in a difficult job, we got promotion, give the man a chance.

 

NorgieTon

 

 

[TRVMP]

It's like the European constitution referenda, people will just keep making different polls at different times until they get the "right" result.

 

If we pull off even a lucky win against Livi then I bet the numbers would change, whereas if we play an organised game and lose they'd go the other way.

[vikingTON]

Carl Bertelson and Piehut are right

Get a grip , you Tossers trying to get a man the sack.

We are mid table, every team wants to do well.

 

Of course you could do better Ha Ha , and you would have the confidence and respect of the dressingroom,

Kick a ball, most of you would get beaten by a one legged man in a arse kicking contest.

 

But then again you know better than a man who has played the game at the top level," My Arse"

 

JM is doing ok in a difficult job, we got promotion, give the man a chance.

 

NorgieTon

 

That auld chestnut.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but McInally has played at a far higher level of football than Jose Mourinho, Arsene Wenger or Rafa Benitez.

It appears therefore that playing ability does not equate to managerial ability.

The man has had more than enough chances.

[jpmil]

i havent been to a game this season as i am in nz. so i cannot comment on the football that is being played. if i judge the management team on the results so far then they obviously hava to stay. if the team, management and supporters had set goals before the season game, they would have been happy with the start.

there is always going to be a swing in support and attendance with the results. we get 4/5 wins on the trot then everything is rosey again. imo the only supporters who are never happy with not winning all the time are the old scum. yes some of our supporters sound the same, we should win every game because we are mfc!! how ridiculous, it is sport with variables!!

when it comes to tactics and the criticism of the tactics. yes you are entitled to your opinion. however i hope you dont mind me laughing at your 'tactical expertise' how many uefa licences have you got/what level ahve you caoched? as craig broon once said to me - you watch television, do you understand how it works. i have been a pro (read - paid coach) in another football code. as i, and as i am sure mcnally will do, laugh about your comments. however there will be others advice he will listen to. not many on this forum thats for sure(too many kids). thats why we aint in his shoes - we know very little about the game.

 

I don't have to be a good singer to know when someone is singing badly!

 

[TAFKAC]

That auld chestnut.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but McInally has played at a far higher level of football than Jose Mourinho, Arsene Wenger or Rafa Benitez.

It appears therefore that playing ability does not equate to managerial ability.

The man has had more than enough chances.

All 4 played professionally. What level do you think you'll play at when you leave school?

 

The polls are completely unscientific. McInally needs to be given a season in this league to see what happens. The real problem at this club is slightly higher up the food chain. People talk about players coming to the club with good reputations and not quite providing the same goods on a weekly basis. The same could be said of a couple of our managers in recent times.

 

Reassess if we are struggling in January and unable to sign anyone. But to do something now would be catastrophic, although completely in line with previous behaviour under the current regime.

[Tooth & Nail]

Get a fcking grip. These are not in the least bit scientific and there is ZERO chance of us changing our manager.

 

Just what planet are these people on!!

 

We have just won the league, and are settling midtable into the 1st division with 7 new players. Fcking get off the guy's back instead of floating stupid pie in the sky polls which mean nothing.

 

We've never won an important match? What about ALL the matches we won last season which allowed us to win the league. What about holding off Stirling's 10 game winning run to STAY top of the league. Beating Stirling at Cappielow? Beating KILMARNOCK in the cup! Beating ST JOHNSTONE in the Cup. Beating DUNFERMLINE in the league!!

 

What a total pile of drivel that post is. Embarrasingly biased with thoughtless comments throughout!

 

Got to agree, why would we want to even change our manager? We are playing some very nice football and we will come good.

[Dougie]

All 4 played professionally. What level do you think you'll play at when you leave school?

 

The polls are completely unscientific. McInally needs to be given a season in this league to see what happens. The real problem at this club is slightly higher up the food chain. People talk about players coming to the club with good reputations and not quite providing the same goods on a weekly basis. The same could be said of a couple of our managers in recent times.

 

Reassess if we are struggling in January and unable to sign anyone. But to do something now would be catastrophic, although completely in line with previous behaviour under the current regime.

 

"Mourinho's playing career consisted of a few generally unsuccessful spells at small clubs. His clear aptitude was his impressive managing and organisational ability and from an early age he prepared match reports and dossiers for his father's teams. He also has a degree in Physical Education, specialising in sports methodology and worked as a high school coach.

 

After low-key backroom jobs at Estrela da Amadora and his hometown club Vitória de Setúbal in the early 1990s, Mourinho soon earned the nickname Tradutor (translator), when he worked with Sir Bobby Robson as his translator (technically his interpreter) at both Sporting Lisbon and then F.C. Porto.

 

He then followed Robson to FC Barcelona in 1996 where he learned Catalan. When Robson left for PSV, Mourinho stayed at Barcelona and worked with Robson's replacement, Dutch coach Louis van Gaal. Mourinho's undoubted confidence and personality helped him get beyond his original role, as he began to participate actively in coaching sessions and management meetings. Eventually, Mourinho coached FC Barcelona B."

 

Once again you are right as the above expedia extract shows. Mourinho only played football on youth and amatuer forms never as a proffessional.

 

TIME TO GO JIM.

 

 

[LargsTON]

i wish he'd bugger off. i'd like to see how these players could perform under a competent manager who had the ability to mould them into a proper team with a fighting attitude.

 

Totally agree.

 

My patience snapped a couple of weeks ago after it became transparent to anyone with half a brain cell that he's learned nothing in his 3 years in charge. The same mistakes (and worse) are being made on a regular basis.

 

My feelings have now been compounded by the Jamie Stevenson rumours.

 

I'm now ready to join the campaign to get him out before further damage is done to the club.

 

How anyone can defend him when his incompetence is so clear bemuses me.

 

TAXI!

[Mojito55]

My views on JM are I believe well known but it is surely madness to replace JM at such an early point in the season.

 

Whatever I feel about performances last season we did win promotion and the management team deserve the opportunity to prove they can hack it at this level.

 

Weekly threads on the subject are not going to change things. Results and performances on the park are what count.

 

WEEKLY? More like Frigging hourly!

 

 

 

[Rasta Ton]

I'm undecided but losing patience. I said at the time that the type of performance shown in the Dunfermline games was a one off "cup tie" type performance that could not be repeated successfully every week. Unfortunately Jimbo seems to disagree with me. The league table after five games looks not to bad for us but a home defeat to QoS is not acceptable and the tactics and performance has been awful. Out of the 7 games played this season, I was entertained against Clyde and Dunfermline, the rest have been painful to watch.

 

His dealings in the transfer market have been awful but how much of the blame for that lies with the Chairman? I've said all along that the entire spine of the team needs replaced. Russell looks a good addition but we're still crying out for a good centre half and midfielder. Instead Jim turns to his chief scout Tommy Burns for another Celtic youngster. Very, very disappointing.

 

One poster says that we're not Barcelona. Yes that's correct but I would expect us to know how to beat QoS at home. If we're not performing better by the end of November he may go under pressure with a new manager apponted in time to ship out a few players in January and bring some new experienced faces in. Chris Millar is for me one who's had his time at Cappielow and should be on his merry way. Harding is another. I hope the rumours re Stevenson are rubbish, he's by far and away the best player we have and any manager with any sense would build a team around him. In short two back to back home defeats is not good but it's early days in the campaign and we've no realisitc chance of promotion this year so as long as we're not rooted to the bottom then he should be given the chance to improve.

 

I would also say Toby that your post on this thread re McInally can't really be taken too seriously given your profound self confessed hatred for the man. The polls on this board are often answered by less than 100 people. That's not even 10% of the attendance at Cappielow. Lets take Saturday's crowd for example as I don't have the season's average figures to hand. On the taxi poll, 65 people have voted. This is a total of 2.25% of the people in attendance at Saturday's game. Of those 65 voters, 37 say they want rid of McInally which reflects roughly 1.3% of those attending Saturday's game. Given that we've had higher figures at our other home games, the percentages would be even less. To say that 1.3% of the Morton support want rid of McInally provides an overwhelming conclusion to your argument is quite frankly ridiculous.

[Tonosaurus]

You folk crack me up.

 

Here we are sitting mid-table after being promoted to the First with not even the first round of games under our belt and you want to sack the manager.

 

It's not the manager that needs the sack it's the small minority of people who use this message board, and you are the small minority, who think they have all the answers that need the bullet.

 

You lot need a reality check, we are Morton in the Scottish First not Barcelona. We have no god given right to win every game. And we have no god given right to find the next Alex Ferguson. Keep sacking managers and you'll be lucky to get anybody to even consider the job.

 

This msg board has got down hill recently; it appears to have been high jacked by a small negative minority, who think they can slag off the manager, the team, individual players and Douglas Rae in the name of freedom of speech.

 

Well folks with freedom of speech comes responsibility and you lot are totally irresponsible. In fact I'm more convinced now that there are people on here with a hidden agenda's or personal agenda's which are not in the best interest of the club.

 

 

This is getting very tiresome. No Jim shouldn’t leave; he’s doing a good job. The problem this board has is that there are a few people who come on here with a single agenda. There are many, like me, who are getting really fed up with the same question being put every day. I have noticed that there are many valued and entertaining posters don’t post anymore and they have been replaced by many negative posters. We are two goals away from being joint third top of this division. Unfortunately I have a life and can’t be on here to debate as much as I’d like to, some have more time to speak on every thread or to create new threads about their feels about Morton’s current management. So my vote goes with our manager.

 

I'm glad you guys posted, saved me wasting my time responding to the same old folk with personal issues against the management. We are joint 3rd (goal difference aside obviously) having beaten Dunfermline, Clyde and Livi this season and losing to the team who at the moment look good for the title and away to Dundee. Saturday was unlucky as we were denied by poor refereeing and last ditch defending. If we go on a six game run of defeats then we can talk about getting shot of the management, but anyone who expects us to finish above mid-table has unfair and unrealistic expectations of this season. Get a grip.

[Mojito55]

My thoughts exactly ............

 

We will miss out on promotion and escape relegation. If we don't and things are looking bleak after the Christmas break then lets open the "McInally up the road" debate then and put it to bed for now?

[Dom_Dom]

My thoughts exactly ............

 

We will miss out on promotion and escape relegation. If we don't and things are looking bleak after the Christmas break then lets open the "McInally up the road" debate then and put it to bed for now?

 

I agree on this.

[aimlesswanderer]

I can't say I'm a huge McInally fan but I wouldn't advocate sacking him just now. I have doubts about McInally but he has never had a sustained period of bad results, he did win us the league last season and until the Hamilton game we had made a strong start to this league campaign, at least results-wise. Despite all the frustrating and bizarre tactical/positional decisions we have consistently achieved decent results, and that is what managers will always be judged on.

 

It would be hard for Dougie to justify sacking a manager who has acheived decent results and it would send out a negative message to any potential successors. It wouldn't quite give him a Romanov-esque reputation but it would make people think twice before applying.

 

And if McInally does go, who are the viable successors?

[arklesTON]

And if McInally does go, who are the viable successors?

 

 

Rowan Alexander.

 

The only man for the job, in fact, as soon as DDFR knew he was available he should have moved Heaven and Earth to get him.

 

I fear that if we do punt JTT we'd get another one of these impressive CV hasbeens that will come along and give a great interview full of anecdotes about 9-in-a-row or "Worked under Wee Jum/Fergie" and he'd get the job, rather than the best man for the job.

 

[Mojito55]

Rowan Alexander.

 

The only man for the job, in fact, as soon as DDFR knew he was available he should have moved Heaven and Earth to get him.

 

I fear that if we do punt JTT we'd get another one of these impressive CV hasbeens that will come along and give a great interview full of anecdotes about 9-in-a-row or "Worked under Wee Jum/Fergie" and he'd get the job, rather than the best man for the job.

 

Rowan Alexander is currently not of sound mind! And did he not once insult the club and supporters which resulted in a supporters club changing their name?

 

[piehutt]

I trust that Rowan Alexander mention is a joke.

 

Carl Bretleson raises a good point. If we did get rid of Jim, to any sane fan or outside observer this would seem like madness, who the hell would touch us with a barge pole?

 

We already find it difficult enough to attract players here, the ole betting scandal rumous may have hurt us there. Therefore anyone we did identify we'd at least pay a premium for, and perhaps compensation not to mention a pay off to Jim and Martin.

 

I know that would cost quite a packet to sack a manager who is doing well and delve into the realms of the unknown, where we may not even attract someone of similar quality. If I was Jim I'd have no hesitation in persuing a wrongful dismissal claim.

 

Look at Thistle fans... moaning bast@rds and got landed with Dick Campbell for 18 months.

 

Also - to the people who want Jim out - football is a game of many many varied opinions and you will never agree with someone 100% on the best formation or tactics. However that doesn't make them wrong, judge the man on the results which you have to say are not bad since Jim took over. Losing a couple of games is not the end of the world.

 

I've never seen eye to eye with McInally about Finlayson - however judging by his performances this season Kev looks to have turned things around.

[Toby]

I trust that Rowan Alexander mention is a joke.

 

Carl Bretleson raises a good point. If we did get rid of Jim, to any sane fan or outside observer this would seem like madness, who the hell would touch us with a barge pole?

 

We already find it difficult enough to attract players here, the ole betting scandal rumous may have hurt us there. Therefore anyone we did identify we'd at least pay a premium for, and perhaps compensation not to mention a pay off to Jim and Martin.

 

I know that would cost quite a packet to sack a manager who is doing well and delve into the realms of the unknown, where we may not even attract someone of similar quality. If I was Jim I'd have no hesitation in persuing a wrongful dismissal claim.

 

Look at Thistle fans... moaning bast@rds and got landed with Dick Campbell for 18 months.

 

Also - to the people who want Jim out - football is a game of many many varied opinions and you will never agree with someone 100% on the best formation or tactics. However that doesn't make them wrong, judge the man on the results which you have to say are not bad since Jim took over. Losing a couple of games is not the end of the world.

 

I've never seen eye to eye with McInally about Finlayson - however judging by his performances this season Kev looks to have turned things around.

 

We have judged him on results before any personal vendettas started. And he failed to win promotion twice incase you forget.

[arklesTON]

Rowan Alexander is currently not of sound mind! And did he not once insult the club and supporters which resulted in a supporters club changing their name?

 

 

I trust that Rowan Alexander mention is a joke.

 

Carl Bretleson raises a good point. If we did get rid of Jim, to any sane fan or outside observer this would seem like madness, who the hell would touch us with a barge pole?

 

 

Oor Rowan would be mad enough to take us on.

[piehutt]

We have judged him on results before any personal vendettas started. And he failed to win promotion twice incase you forget.

 

Not really...

One time he came in after about 3 months of the season. Lost it by a point - wonder how much we'd have lost by if he hadn't come in.

The other time we finished a very good second and got shafted by the playoffs (queue - blah de blah... he knew the rules before the season... bleat, whine, greet etc).

Then we won the league with a few games to spare.

Now we've made a respectable start and brought in at least 5 players who look to have improved the squad.

 

Results, by no means perfect but very competitive and improving every season.

 

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