Flyerton Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 It's been 1988 since we last played Rangers regularly in the league. What's the chances of them getting shifted to div 1? Slim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cet Homme Charmant Posted January 31, 2012 Author Share Posted January 31, 2012 It's been 1988 since we last played Rangers regularly in the league. What's the chances of them getting shifted to div 1? Slim? As I said above, normally any new club introduced into the Scottish League structure has to start in the 3rd division, like Livi, Ross Co, Annan, Gretna and Inverness Cally all had to do. Can't remember if Airdrie Utd started in the 3rd division or not but they may be a different case because they took over the membership of another club so in some sense they weren't 'new' members. So if the newco take up the membership of Rangers as a new an seperate company/club then they should start in the 3rd division. Won't happen though, for the reasons also mentioned above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alibi Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 WDE full again with 'Gers fans? .....not quite as many as on the vid below though from Dec 1948 (estimated crowd of 25,000) O5xysJUlyMM&hd=1 What, the 1948 game that has a wee caption saying "1953" at the top? Regarding a new club, if a new club took over the old RFC and bought them from administrators they could stay in the SPL as I think I'm correct in saying that the SPL penalty for administration is not demotion to the 3rd division of the SFL (it being a different league) but is a simple deduction of points. Probably the case that that would see them avoid relegation as they're probably sufficiently far above last place already. I'm not sure what happens when a club folds mid-season but no doubt the administrators would try to keep them trading until the end of the season, no doubt with the connivance of the SPL a la Gretna. "Any nation given the opportunity to regain its national sovereignty and which then rejects it is so far beneath contempt that it is hard to put words to it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro.mcghee Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Yes Airdrie Utd took on Clydebank’s membership in the 1st and I think Gretna came in to replace Airdrie the membership of the SFA/ SPL is an asset and as such it is up to the administrators what they want to do with it think you are right that the SPL only give 10 points if they go in to administration Personally I would like to see the new co having to apply with every other team that would want to take on membership and have to work their way up the system. But if the spl/sfa membership is up for grabs perhaps Mr ray could put in a bid I am dyslexic and I am getting tired of your shirt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irnbru Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Would love to see the newco being forced to start again from the 3rd division, as they should. But I'm 100% certain that the SPL chairman will bend/change the rules and let them straight back into the SPL. They're far more worried about the loss of TV revenue and gate money than natural justice, I'm afraid. I was thinking about that the other day. What would happen if they did reapply and someone else did as well or they didn't have an open application to allow others the chance? Surely there would be a legal case against the league then?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro.mcghee Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 I was thinking about that the other day. What would happen if they did reapply and someone else did as well or they didn't have an open application to allow others the chance? Surely there would be a legal case against the league then?? No becomes it is not an open and transparent way of working anyway each SFL member club get a vote of who to take and we all know it’s not going to be Spartans is it So it’s legal and democratic It sucks lol I am dyslexic and I am getting tired of your shirt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 .....not quite as many as on the vid below though from Dec 1948 (estimated crowd of 25,000) O5xysJUlyMM&hd=1 What, the 1948 game that has a wee caption saying "1953" at the top? And with Morton's record attendance being recorded as 22,500 against Celtic in 1922? Thank you FlyerTon, fountain of knowledge . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alibi Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 And with Morton's record attendance being recorded as 22,500 against Celtic in 1922? Thank you FlyerTon, fountain of knowledge . Did we not have 23,000 against Motherwell for the 1963 League Cup quarter final second leg? Won 2-0. "Any nation given the opportunity to regain its national sovereignty and which then rejects it is so far beneath contempt that it is hard to put words to it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Did we not have 23,000 against Motherwell for the 1963 League Cup quarter final second leg? Won 2-0. According to Wiki, 23,500 actually in 1922. The day of the Cappielow riot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest David Edwards Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Would love to see the newco being forced to start again from the 3rd division, as they should. But I'm 100% certain that the SPL chairman will bend/change the rules and let them straight back into the SPL. They're far more worried about the loss of TV revenue and gate money than natural justice, I'm afraid. That's the way I see it too, in fact I could even see Celtic doing a whip round for Rangers. They know that having the Battle of The Boyne re-fought at least 4 times a season is big box office that would be too sore to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyerton Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 What, the 1948 game that has a wee caption saying "1953" at the top? Indeed, it was 1953 I was looking at the 1948 Scottish Cup Final between Rangers and Morton (in front of a crowd in the region of 130,000 at Hampden - possibly 'Tons last best chance of winning this cup to date - ended in a draw) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cet Homme Charmant Posted January 31, 2012 Author Share Posted January 31, 2012 Possibly 'Tons last best chance of winning this cup to date - ended in a draw Eh....... we won it in 1922. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe1874 Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Rumours going about twitter that McCoist has resigned. Taken with a pinch of salt of course, but possible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyerton Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Eh....... we won it in 1922. Yep, I should have said possibly best chance of winning again since 1922. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 No becomes it is not an open and transparent way of working anyway each SFL member club get a vote of who to take and we all know it’s not going to be Spartans is it So it’s legal and democratic It sucks lol Spot on. The SPL is completely seperate to the SFL, it has no obligation to admit an SFL club to fill the gap. Also, the SKY deal for 120 million was dependant on 4 Glasgow derbies a season. SO anyone htinking Rangers Athletic or somehting similar wont be in the SPL next season is mad. Turkeys dont vote for christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 I would be finished with football if a newly reformed Rangers were allowed back into the SPL straight off - sickening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Rangers have signed two Czechs - Blank and Provi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonInDublin Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Apparently Kanu was at Ibrox till late last night as part of an attempted transfer. Ally McCoist released a statement saying the club and the team were up s*** creek without a paddle, so a Kanu seemed an obvious buy. Two Uniteds but the soul is one, as the Busby Babes carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrissiboi Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Lets face it , they are fecked. We should be able to smell a wrong 'un after the time of Mr Scott. Whyte's tenure just mirrors that only on a bigger scale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Spot on. The SPL is completely seperate to the SFL, it has no obligation to admit an SFL club to fill the gap. Also, the SKY deal for 120 million was dependant on 4 Glasgow derbies a season. SO anyone htinking Rangers Athletic or somehting similar wont be in the SPL next season is mad. Turkeys dont vote for christmas. However, with Michel Platini being a big advocate of this financial fair play, I wonder what UEFA's view of the SPL allowing a new club to rise from the ashes of Rangers and automatically take their place in the SPL. Wishful thinking perhaps, but the SPL's hands may well be tied on the matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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