Colkitto Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 Is this what they are reduced to ? Sending in the Orangemen ! http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=453432007 THE largest Orange Lodge parade ever seen in Edinburgh is expected to see 10,000 people march through the city centre tomorrow. The event has been organised to celebrate the 300th anniversary of the Act of Union, and the huge expected turnout is believed to be in part due to the prospect of an SNP election victory. Don't blame me I voted Yes!!!! - We tried to tell you !!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfever Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 I wondered what the signs were for...shall be staying well clear methinks What Carew can do with a ball, I can do with an orange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
le_chien_manquee Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 I wondered what the signs were for...shall be staying well clear methinks good move. pity you won't be able to avoid the stench, though. the guy below loves the boaby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sick Mick Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 I wondered what the signs were for...shall be staying well clear methinks Well that's no good - if you stand too far away you won't be able to pelt them with eggs. Some fúcking hippie robbed all my ale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortonjag Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 Well that's no good - if you stand too far away you won't be able to pelt them with eggs. Eggsactly-hope I beat him !!! First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then they pretend to befriend you, then you win! YER BARD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhubarb Mess Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 Between them and that furckin Connolly march it’s no wonder our country is furcked up. IF Scotland ever became independent do you think it possible to banish the orange cants to Engerland and the Oirish wannabees to Oirland? Coming to think about it, this march will probably do more for the nationalist cause than any propaganda from the unionists. Own goal. We are a MEAN diddy team!!! SITTING ON THE FENCE!!! m1874 Blog<<<..V..>>>Ernies Blog GMST make your own mind up. "Hey!!! That tea leaf half-inched me wallet" Yours Roobs, AKA, Harry's Orville Duck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sick Mick Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 Between them and that furckin Connolly march it’s no wonder our country is furcked up. IF Scotland ever became independent do you think it possible to banish the orange cants to Engerland and the Oirish wannabees to Oirland? Coming to think about it, this march will probably do more for the nationalist cause than any propaganda from the unionists. Own goal. What exactly is wrong with the Connolly march, politically? Why is celebrating a great socialist leader seen in any way as sectarian? Some fúcking hippie robbed all my ale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
good guy Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 What exactly is wrong with the Connolly march, politically? Why is celebrating a great socialist leader seen in any way as sectarian? Because this is not f***ing ireland. Its f***ing easy to understand. While this stuff goes on in Scotland this country will never move foward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest argyllsTon Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 What exactly is wrong with the Connolly march, politically? Why is celebrating a great socialist leader seen in any way as sectarian? Well they dont exactly march for him just because he came from Edinburgh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sick Mick Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 Because this is not f***ing ireland. Its f***ing easy to understand. While this stuff goes on in Scotland this country will never move foward. I never said it was Ireland, did I? Why shouldn't the socialists in Edinburgh march in proud support of one of the men who lead the first socialist revolution in Europe? Oh right, because he fought for the common cause of an Irish Republic and Ireland is an evil and smelly country. Sorry. my bad. Some fúcking hippie robbed all my ale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortonjag Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 The cost to the public purse for policing this exercise is enormous-and to what end-the perpetuation of bigotry (from one side of the divide). I guess the only consolation is the payback in terms of tobacco and alcohol taxation-come to think of it, they might end up in pocket. First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then they pretend to befriend you, then you win! YER BARD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRVMP Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 The cost to the public purse for policing this exercise is enormous-and to what end-the perpetuation of bigotry (from one side of the divide). Freedom of demonstration is a right in all free countries worthy of the name, including this one. Sadly it means having to put up with crap like this. On the plus side, the kind of flotsam and jetsam that follow these things are going to surely give the event a bad name. The OO marches are the OO's own worst enemy in many ways, which is quite hilarious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest midTONs Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 Freedom of demonstration is a right in all free countries worthy of the name, including this one. I thought these types of marches were celebrations, ie the one tomorrow a celebration of the Union and the Connolly one a celebration of his life and what he achieved, now if I'm correct it should be easy enough to ban the marches are they are not demonstration marches (well not meant to be anyway). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRVMP Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 I thought these types of marches were celebrations, ie the one tomorrow a celebration of the Union and the Connolly one a celebration of his life and what he achieved, now if I'm correct it should be easy enough to ban the marches are they are not demonstration marches (well not meant to be anyway). I dunno, I think it's a blurred line. In any case I'd rather not see them banned as intolerance breeds intolerance. I'd rather just let the OO make an arse of itself by having tracksuited, England-topped neds follow them around all afternoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest midTONs Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 Totally disagree, I would have them all banned, I mean come on, tomorrow 10,000 orange men mostly from Scotland but who really want to be English and then there is Connolly another Scot who wanted to be Irish, FFS it's about the people of Scotland got a grip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortonjag Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 Freedom of demonstration is a right in all free countries worthy of the name, including this one. Sadly it means having to put up with crap like this. On the plus side, the kind of flotsam and jetsam that follow these things are going to surely give the event a bad name. The OO marches are the OO's own worst enemy in many ways, which is quite hilarious Freedom of demonstration that you're a drunken bigot make be legal nacho, but let me tell you a true story. A G.P. friend of mine was attending an emergency call (a child with apparent breathing difficulty), when he had to stop at the junction with a main road, where a huge 'orange' parade had just started to pass. He pled with the police on duty to let him through, and produced evidence of his identity, but was told that 'under NO circumstances' were they allowed to 'break the ranks'. He was held back for more than eight minutes. In a twisted way, I suppose you'd want to hear that the child came to serious harm. That, in fact, did not happen-'by the grace of God' I guess. So who decides on the rules determining 'free demonstration'? Why cant they all assemble safely in the National Stadium, or something like that, instead of adulterating the day to day activities of ordinary folk, and compromising their health and safety? First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then they pretend to befriend you, then you win! YER BARD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRVMP Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 Totally disagree, I would have them all banned, I mean come on, tomorrow 10,000 orange men mostly from Scotland but who really want to be English and then there is Connolly another Scot who wanted to be Irish, FFS it's about the people of Scotland got a grip. Well, I guess my vision of Scotland allows people to be what they want to be, even if they want to be a bit of a knob Freedom of demonstration that you're a drunken bigot make be legal nacho, but let me tell you a true story. A G.P. friend of mine was attending an emergency call (a child with apparent breathing difficulty), when he had to stop at the junction with a main road, where a huge 'orange' parade had just started to pass. He pled with the police on duty to let him through, and produced evidence of his identity, but was told that 'under NO circumstances' were they allowed to 'break the ranks'. He was held back for more than eight minutes. In a twisted way, I suppose you'd want to hear that the child came to serious harm. That, in fact, did not happen-'by the grace of God' I guess. So who decides on the rules determining 'free demonstration'? Why cant they all assemble safely in the National Stadium, or something like that, instead of adulterating the day to day activities of ordinary folk, and compromising their health and safety? Surely in that instance the police could (or at the very least should) intervene, though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sick Mick Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 Totally disagree, I would have them all banned, I mean come on, tomorrow 10,000 orange men mostly from Scotland but who really want to be English and then there is Connolly another Scot who wanted to be Irish, FFS it's about the people of Scotland got a grip. Right...time for a history lesson midTONs. Connolly was not another Scot who "wanted to be Irish" - he was an advocate of internationalism and a prominent Marxist theorist at the time. He was involved with Trade Union Movements in Scotland and then when he deserted the Brit Army in Ireland he decided to fight for worker's rights there too. Perhaps the fact that both Connolly's parents were from Ireland and the fact that he fell for an Irish girl in the end would show that he felt a degree of Romanticism for the place - but would you feel the same way if it was Scotland rather than Ireland? Connolly saw what he was doing as progressive nationalism, and a step-forward for his socialist beliefs in Europe. If you believe James Connolly was any sort of sectarian Irish Volunteer, then you're going to have to open up a f***ing history book. There was nothing "Say your prayers and fight for God and Ireland" about the Irish Citizen Army, they fought for a Worker's Republic. Some fúcking hippie robbed all my ale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortonjag Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 Well, I guess my vision of Scotland allows people to be what they want to be, even if they want to be a bit of a kn** Surely in that instance the police could (or at the very least should) intervene, though? But in doing so they would be obstructing a statutory 'free demonstration'. I doubt if they would have tried to stop 'Trumpton' going 'hell for leather' with 'Blues and twos', and the drunken rabble would probably have been bright enough to concede, but had they allowed what appeared to be an ordinary car through, that would have been perceived as an outrage, if not a defiant **** 'two fingers'. First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then they pretend to befriend you, then you win! YER BARD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaunTon Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 Whatever the rights and wrongs of Connolly (and there are far more rights imo) his 'celebration' has been hijacked by the usual f*nn**s who simply use it as a vehicle to spout their bile. I'm sure Connolly would be proud of them. As for the OO, the fact that we have drunken retards with their comedy uniforms marching up and down the streets of Scotland proclaiming their loyalty, just shows how far we have to go before we get into the 20th century never mind the 21st. edited to add that is F ANN IES not Fenians for those who have trouble spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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