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He should be welcomed into this country with open arms, along with his supporters, the Proud Boys etc. This is, incidentally, just the beginning. The Right have had enough with being persecuted.

That's an excellent post. What a shan world it has become. Bling ignorance of the sheep willing to follow the media and twitter. 

The violent and evil left MUST be behind this latest violence. 

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So for those keeping score at home, we've gone from:

Trump is commanding his "Proud Boys" Sturmabteilung to violently take to the streets 

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The Left hasn't killed anyone yet this month and plus a lot of them are peaceful and joyful anyway

In other words, we've gone to the exact status quo, exactly as I said we would. 

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5 hours ago, cmdc said:

These legal challenges are...interesting. About as close to an abuse of process as you can get, which was Trump’s MO in Scotland. And the lawyers!

I agree. If hypothetically all of these cases were being filed by the same person in the same jurisdiction, they wouldn't be far off vexatious litigant status.

Some people are saying that these lawsuits, being mainly filed by unconnected groups without standing and not by the administration or the campaign itself, are merely a tactic to buy time before the Double Secret Probation lawsuits are launched. This strikes me as absurdly optimistic.

I also note that 99% (no exaggeration) of people who are losing their shit over this were either cheering on the worst excesses of the Russiagate "investigation" or thought it was a perfectly normal course of enquiry.

This is how it works from now on. I applaud any and all attempts from the Trump campaign to fight dirty (within the law, naturally), since they were given absolutely no quarter when the tables were turned.

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Ahhhh.....so much to discuss about Donald "he's picking on me, so I will disgrace him" Trump, and the damage he's done to our country and its reputation (not to say it was the best to begin with), as well as our alliances and friendships with other countries.

When this all kicked off in 2016, I predicted that Trump would be impeached, which I was right, but I was wrong in that he would be removed. I never thought that the entire right would fall in lock-step behind him. I also predicted that he would put federal forces in the streets, and that he would challenge a loss in the 2020 election (again I was right), and that he will do everything he can to stay in power, including instilling martial law (which remains to be seen...thankfully, though, the military has stated that they will not respond to martial law by following those orders).

So, here's my prediction for Trump for after noon on 20 Jan 2021.....he may give himself a pardon (which is illegal, but which the republicans won't do anything about), and he'll pardon his kids, other family members, and those closest to him at the last minute. Even if those pardons stick, they're only for federal charges. Those pardons will have NO effect on state-level charges. Thus, look for Trump, his family members, and those he pardoned to be indicted on charges in (at least) the state of New York (if not also New Jersey, Connecticut and Pennsylvania....at least). Also, him being in Mar-a-Lago in Florida (which he went to before Christmas, and which he'll never return to DC from) will have no bearing on the indictments since Trump and his ilk can be extradited from Florida to New York.

I cannot wait until Biden is sworn in. I'm an independent that has voted for both sides and independents, and I like and dislike positions from both sides (although I don't see much from the right at the moment that I can support, but I believe that once Senator McConnel is gone, that will change.

Just my two cent's worth.

 

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"Throw me to the wolves, and I'll return leading the pack." ---Unknown

"May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't." ---General George S. Patton, Jr.

 

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2 minutes ago, Hej said:

The violent and evil left MUST be behind this latest violence. 

You - collectively - spent the entire summer saying that the armed invasion of federal buildings in Portland was not only alright, but actually a moral necessity. What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. I'd have advocated shooting everyone involved in all of these incidents, but when you suspend the rule of law, you can't act surprised when people take it as permission to do whatever they want.

Perhaps now people will start taking paramilitary activity seriously, but instead it'll be selectively applied justice as usual and nothing will change.

edit: And to the decently high percentage of Congress who cheered this stuff on when it was happening in faraway cities away from their districts and states, perhaps they will start to understand that they've been playing with fire.

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4 minutes ago, Cet Homme Charmant said:

Yup, BLM and ANTIFA have a lot to answer for, cunningly disguising themselves as white trash racist rednecks :)

In real life, rednecks are terrified of being called racist.

BLM and ANTIFA are also overwhelmingly white, and Antifa is overwhelmingly lower-middle class.

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17 minutes ago, TRVMP said:

You - collectively - spent the entire summer saying that the armed invasion of federal buildings in Portland was not only alright, but actually a moral necessity. What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. I'd have advocated shooting everyone involved in all of these incidents, but when you suspend the rule of law, you can't act surprised when people take it as permission to do whatever they want.

Perhaps now people will start taking paramilitary activity seriously, but instead it'll be selectively applied justice as usual and nothing will change.

edit: And to the decently high percentage of Congress who cheered this stuff on when it was happening in faraway cities away from their districts and states, perhaps they will start to understand that they've been playing with fire.

 

Did I, aye? 

 

You - singularly - spent the entire election campaign saying stuff like this:

",I'll go on record right now is saying that any organized, large-scale unrest in this country will be originated and perpetrated by the left" 

 

Looks like you were wrong lol. 

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Yes, you were 100% all-in on the protests and destruction. Don't try to rewrite history. It was a beautiful display of solidarity against injustice. This was the party line throughout the culture and you were right in amongst it, hence your continued lionization of Antifa.

Do you think this is organized? Do you think this is large scale? This isn't nothing, I'd never be so dishonest as to say that. But am I particularly bothered that the self-same Congress that sat by and did nothing this summer is seeing the chickens come home to roost by some guys walking around in their building (one of whom appears to be dressed as a character from Skyrim)? Not in the least bit. They completely and totally brought it on themselves.

One of the many reasons how the Left won the cultural battle for America is that they never have to apologize or account for anything. Through near-total control of academia and majority control of the media, they have ensured that nobody on the Left will ever have to account for any positions that backfire. Thus the summer of organized insurrection has been retconned as a "summer of love", and nobody who cheered it on will ever have to hear the name Horace Anderson, much less apologize for their complicity in his murder. (Nobody here has heard of him either, despite supporting 100% the circumstances that led to his killing.)

Through skilful judicial appointments and the installation of radical District Attorneys, the Left has also enabled their street-level foot-soldiers to act with near-impunity, just as we saw this summer in Portland, Milwaukee, Seattle, and more. A perfect example is Ed Schinzing, who was part of a large, armed group attempting to burn alive the staff of the Portland Justice Center in May. He got caught - and this is 100% true - by taking his shirt off while having his name tattooed across his back. So they pretty much had to arrest him, and he alone will suffer the consequences for a violent, organized, well-funded attempt at insurrection in the United States. (He'll be sentenced later this month. I think he'll get seven years and be out in five-and-a-bit. Thanks for your "criminal justice reform", Trump!)

We are seeing the same dynamic today. The mainstream Right, terrified as it is of the media complex, will now spend the next decade apologizing for what in a reverse scenario would be called a peaceful demonstration where truth was spoke to power. Yes, of course anyone watching can tell that what's happening today is a complete and utter disgrace. But the people involved aren't going to see it that way, and they can point to the TV screens that all summer told them how *stunning and brave* the protests were, and they will say, in all naivete and innocence... wait, we thought we were the good guys!

One of two things can happen from here. We either go along as we have done, in which case the people today - who missed the memo - will continue to act lawlessly, only they will face massive consequences. Or we can collectively decide that *all* such cases of insurrection and violence* are unacceptable and thus restore the rule of law.

*While what's happening today has been thus far significantly less violent than the orgy of destruction over the course of the summer, it would be dishonest to call this non-violent. Destroying barriers and breaking and entering into a building against the instructions of its guards - causing the guards to disperse - is violence. Hopefully everyone can agree at least on that definition.

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Was I, aye? 🤣 Good luck backing up any of those imaginary viewpoints you have attributed to me with evidence, you utter fantasist. 

The only "collective" to which I belong is the one of laughing at and baiting delusional right-wing lunatics 

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2 minutes ago, Hej said:

Was I, aye? 🤣 Good luck backing up any of those imaginary viewpoints you have attributed to me with evidence, you utter fantasist. 

The only "collective" to which I belong is the one of laughing at and baiting delusional right-wing lunatics 

Anyone honest would look at this very page and see an Antifa fan. But as I outlined, part of the benefit of being on the cultural Left is that you're not expected to be honest. You can fade back into the crowd in the knowledge that you've done the right thing.

The insurrectionists currently storming the Capitol naively believe that they can do the same thing. They will soon learn that they can't.

My desire is that this becomes a universal state of affairs, rather than something purely unidirectional.

Your desire is for the continuation of the status quo.

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10 minutes ago, TRVMP said:

Anyone honest would look at this very page and see an Antifa fan. But as I outlined, part of the benefit of being on the cultural Left is that you're not expected to be honest. You can fade back into the crowd in the knowledge that you've done the right thing.

The insurrectionists currently storming the Capitol naively believe that they can do the same thing. They will soon learn that they can't.

My desire is that this becomes a universal state of affairs, rather than something purely unidirectional.

Your desire is for the continuation of the status quo.

 

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The claim that “the left” has near total control of academia in the US is quite something!

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11 minutes ago, cmdc said:

The claim that “the left” has near total control of academia in the US is quite something!

In what way? The faculty of this country's universities is overwhelmingly liberal - significantly more liberal not only than the population at large, but even the Democratic party. This becomes even more pronounced at some of the Ivies. There are a few unis like Caltech that buck the trend but for the most part, academia is a leftist institution.

And I say this not out of sour grapes, by the way, but with the utmost admiration. Not just the right but the center of American politics spent decades giggling at campus activists and made snide jokes about hippies and basket-weaving and those crazy commies. While they were doing this (and busily looting the country while doing so) the left was organizing. Their control of the academic discourse is completely justified because they saw it was important, they wanted it, and they got it. Hence ideas that were confined to campus newsletters 20 years ago are now utterly mainstream.

Citation for the above: Are Liberal Viewpoints Over-Represented On College Campuses? (forbes.com) (28 to 1 in New England)

Why Are Most College Professors Liberal? New Studies Investigate by Ashley Thorne | NAS 

edit: and while this one is old, I looked for the link that falsified my position the most. This one is significantly more nuanced than 28-to-1, but the trend is still clear and backs up what I said:

Research confirms that professors lean left, but questions assumptions about what this means for conservatives (insidehighered.com)

And the fields in which cultural ideas are most effectively filtered - the liberal arts, media, and especially education - are far more left-tilted than are faculties such as engineering.

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You do have to say “fair play” to anyone watching this nonsense unfold, fucking Batman walking around unchallenged in the grounds of the capitol building and still dying on the Trump hill. 

Fair play!

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You do have to say “fair play” to anyone watching this nonsense unfold, fucking Batman walking around unchallenged in the grounds of the capitol building and still dying on the Trump hill. 

Fair play!

The whole thing is a fucking disgrace and the National Guard should have been deployed the second someone touched the first fence.

The supposed adults in the room in this country, however, declared a permanent Casual Friday this summer. They're going to do nothing to de-escalate. And the media needs something to keep up ratings after Trump goes.

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