Megrahi........ A Curious Case...............................

[Ghost]

Why is this so called Shop keeper now living in Australia and aparently quite a wealthy person now.

[Colkitto]

Why is this so called Shop keeper now living in Australia and aparently quite a wealthy person now.

 

The shop keeper that was paid $millions by the USA ?

[Colkitto]

Feck I wouldn't like to be going to the US embassy for a visa this week ?

 

 

I take it Tartan Day in New York is cancelled

[Tom_McB]

At least we had the last laugh - Sent the bas.ard home in a shell suit!

Bravo

 

 

 

Best post in this most s***ey of threads by a country mile.

We agree mon rentier.

 

 

 

Why is this so called Shop keeper now living in Australia and aparently quite a wealthy person now.

Witness protection? See if the yanks had bought him off he might be in yankee-land.

 

[Tom_McB]

I take it Tartan Day in New York is cancelled

 

That's Eck's next homecummin or whatever fecked.

 

So anyway, Hindley, did the English do wrong?

 

[Colkitto]

That's Eck's next homecummin or whatever fecked.

 

So anyway, Hindley, did the English do wrong?

 

 

Don't know enough about her case in trying to get out of prison.

And it's none of my business, it's an English matter.

[Guest David Edwards]

McCaskill's press call statement was dreadful and the subsequent interviews were even worse, he appeared like an automaton, constantly repeating his homilies about the innately compassionate values of the Scottish people. It was all bollocks of course, (he obviously hasn't sampled this messageboard) but I genuinely sympathise with his predicament.

Megrahi may have been a patsy, now I fear that McCaskill might be an even bigger one. The British, Americans and Megrahi himself seem to have stitched him up good and proper, he's left in the classic no-win situation. Where is Eck in all this though? Has he left his colleague out on a limb, acting true to his forte as the 'consumate politician'?

[Morton4Me]

"edd Posted Today, 09:13 PM all the ignorant americans who shout "shame on you scotland" should **** off and start facing the facts."

 

And the facts are?

 

Megrahi was found guilty of mass murder, yes/no?

Sentenced to life in prison. yes/no?

Released on compansionate grounds. yes/no?

 

Now answer the following -

 

Out of the 30 convicted prisoners released on compasionate grounds since 2001, how many were murderers 0/30?

I'll give a clue to the answer, it's below 1.

 

I just watched Megrahi's return to Libya with Scottish flags waving, people welcoming him back as a hero.

That is wrong.

 

I can see headlines now - Convicted mass murderer of 270 freed on compasionate grounds. WOW sic.

 

Not a good day to be a Scot in the US. You can't defend the undefendable.

 

 

[Guest David Edwards]

Scotland should be ashamed. It is one of those days in history that make you ashamed to be Scottish. Our whole Criminal Justice system has been undermined by Politicians.

 

Megrahi's dab's were all over the evidence. If it was English law i'd be a sceptic, but in Scots law we rely on corroboration and on our law the man was convicted.

 

The 270 victims in this attack did not have the chance to go home for the last 3 months of their life, there was no compassionate grounds for these people and for the families left to grieve.

 

For MacAskill and the other Politicians to come out with pish about we being decent people and it's the right thing to do? Does he speak on behalf of the people of Scotland? I think not.

 

What next, Damien Muir's murderer to be let free because he has swine flu...

 

This is the day our integrity as a nation died.

 

I agree with a lot of what you say, but your last is unfair I think. Our nationhood is presently denied to us, there'll be time to pass judgement on our integrity (as a nation) once we regain our nationhood. I suspect that McCaskill's been set up to take the flak for the past misdemeanours and clandestine deals of the British and Americans.

[Cet Homme Charmant]

Where is Eck in all this though? Has he left his colleague out on a limb, acting true to his forte as the 'consumate politician'?

You're getting as predictable and boring as Tam.

 

There's no doubt that if Salmon had taken a higher profile in this you'd be on here accusing him of showboating and hogging the limelight, and interfering in the Justice Minister's remit.

 

You hate Salmond, message received and understood David.

 

This whole episode was a classic no-win situation for MacAskill that was not of his or the Scottish Government's making. He was lumbered with a horrible decision to make that no-one would envy. The fact that rival politicians and the usual suspects on here like you are attempting to make political gain from this is frankly a sign of yours and their desperation.

 

FWIW I think MacAskill did make a couple of mistakes in his handling of this for which he could have been reasonably criticised. But sensible discussion on here with your and Tam's tactic of indiscriminate attacks on anything and everything SNP using far fetched conspiracy theories and downright lies makes that all but impossible.

[Guest David Edwards]

You hate Salmond, message received and understood David.

Message not received or deliberately misunderstood, rent collector.

[Cet Homme Charmant]

You're getting as predictable and boring as Tam.

 

 

Message not received or deliberately misunderstood, rent collector.

QED

[Guest David Edwards]

your and Tam's tactic of indiscriminate attacks on anything and everything SNP using far fetched conspiracy theories and downright lies makes that all but impossible.

Quote examples of my 'far fetched conspiracy theories and downright lies' please?

[Cet Homme Charmant]

Quote examples of my 'far fetched conspiracy theories and downright lies' please?

Read the considered thoughts of Tam on this very thread, there's plenty to choose from.

[Guest David Edwards]

Read the considered thoughts of Tam on this very thread, there's plenty to choose from.

You mentioned my 'far fetched conspiracy theories and downright lies'. Quote me please, not McB.

[Guest David Edwards]

I genuinely sympathise with his predicament. Megrahi may have been a patsy, now I fear that McCaskill might be an even bigger one. The British, Americans and Megrahi himself seem to have stitched him up good and proper, he's left in the classic no-win situation.

 

 

This whole episode was a classic no-win situation for MacAskill that was not of his or the Scottish Government's making. He was lumbered with a horrible decision to make that no-one would envy.

 

FWIW I think MacAskill did make a couple of mistakes in his handling of this for which he could have been reasonably criticised.

 

For feck's sake CHC, stop repeating my every word.

[leyTON]

people just love twsiting this to suit themselves.

there is an opinion that the SNP lay down at the behest of the UK Govt, yeah if theres one party that wants to upholf the uk government, its the snp

despite the ranting in the media (its somehow possible to fake cancer) the man has a death sentence on him as sure as morton will still be shoite tomorrow.,

even if we presume he is guilty, to keep him in prison would be to exacerbate his condition, we retain the moral high ground if we show that unlike the yanks (who like to assinate criminals remember) we can rise above the sniping and show that mercy can breeed remorse,

[marx]

The Judges were obviously convinced it was beyond reasonable doubt or they would have found him not proven.

 

Oh and there has never been any miscarriage of justice in trials has there?

 

I feel sorry for families of victims but I have , like many, doubts of the conviction. As for Scotland being ashamed , there is far more to be ashamed of being an American, for a start the said Iran Air Flight 655.

[mortonjag]

Edd's post details the flimsy evidence on which Megrahi was convicted. The SCCRC recommended that the conviction had been unsafe. Megrahi's appeal has been deferred for an inordinate length of time-WHY?

 

A point clearly missed by many posters is that his conviction (even if he WAS guilty) shames the Scottish legal system.

 

It is entirely possible that Megrahi IS innocent-a 57 year old man, father and husband- rotting to death in a Scotish prison from advanced prostatic carcinoma .

 

Given that possibility, his release will please God, Allah, and all fair minded folk.

[Alibi]

We're in agreement there.

 

 

 

I'm saying he should die in Jail because under Scottish Law he is a mass murderer.

 

Should we have let Myra Hindley out? If Ian Brady gets cancer should he be released.

 

I think that if someone has a short time to live and is no longer a danger to society then compassionate release is a reasonable course of action, particularly where they have relatives. Should be for a limited time though to prevent "miracle cures" like Saunders - if they don't die as forecast, wheech them back inside.