Davie McArthur Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 According to the Greater Manchester Police they will arrest anyone in the stadium who shouts racist or sectarian abuse (apparently the Russians are a bit racist and Rangers are a bit sectarian). Be interesting to see how many are left in the stadium come full time. MARTY OUT!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Dublin End Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 Rangers are a bit sectarian). They are indeed. Being a Scotsman I cringe anytime I hear their fans sing. FTOF. I hope they get hammered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GibbyTON Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 Im sure the Airdrie fans will blend in with both sides Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAFKAC Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 According to the Greater Manchester Police they will arrest anyone in the stadium who shouts racist or sectarian abuse (apparently the Russians are a bit racist and Rangers are a bit sectarian). Be interesting to see how many are left in the stadium come full time. Has anybody read the quote from Advocaat about his signing policy. Something along the lines of he won't sign a black player because the fans wouldn't accept him. Difficult to fathom which is the greater of two evils. Racism or pandering to it? Another question - Do Rangers have any songs without sectarian content? "I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it." George Bernard Shaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossco Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 When is the Uefa cup final trying to find the details of when it is in the papers but is no mention of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on_the_piss Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 When is the Uefa cup final trying to find the details of when it is in the papers but is no mention of it. Just asked on yahoo answers for you there, there is suggestions it is tonight but don't quote me on it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cet Homme Charmant Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 6:30am this morning Scotland's Shame were giving it 'Billy Boys' full pelt, live from Albert Square in Manchester. I don't think I'll be watching it tonight. I can think of better things to do on a Wednesday evening than watching a turgid 0-0 draw played out in front of 50,000 hate filled racists and bigots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest David Edwards Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 Has anybody read the quote from Advocaat about his signing policy. Something along the lines of he won't sign a black player because the fans wouldn't accept him. Difficult to fathom which is the greater of two evils. Racism or pandering to it? Another question - Do Rangers have any songs without sectarian content? I suppose they have one or two, like 'Bluebells are Blue' and 'Follow Follow' (although the version played over the tannoy at Ibrox has a flute band backing). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest midTONs Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 I suppose they have one or two, like 'Bluebells are Blue' and 'Follow Follow' (although the version played over the tannoy at Ibrox has a flute band backing). only if they leave out the bit they add saying f*** the pope and the Vatican Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom_McB Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 apparently the Russians are a bit racist and Rangers are a bit sectarian Apparently bears defecate in sylvan surroundings and the Pope has some inclination towards Roman Catholicisim. I suppose they have one or two, like 'Bluebells are Blue' and 'Follow Follow' (although the version played over the tannoy at Ibrox has a flute band backing). Does "Follow Follow" not have a whistled accompaniment? Though the whistling does sound strangely like a flute band. Funny that. <_> "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their consciences."The goal of Socialism is Communism- Lenin Je ne suis pas Marxiste : K Marx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cet Homme Charmant Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 Has anybody read the quote from Advocaat about his signing policy. Something along the lines of he won't sign a black player because the fans wouldn't accept him. Difficult to fathom which is the greater of two evils. Racism or pandering to it? I didn't quite believe that could be true, but apparently it is.... http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/t...ers/7398400.stm Manager Dick Advocaat has even admitted that the fans' attitude has affected his transfer policy. "The problem is our fans," he says. "I would be happy to sign anyone but the fans don't like black players. "I don't understand how they could pay so much attention to skin colour. For me, there's no difference between white, black or red. "But the fans are the most important thing Zenit have. That's why, in future, I have to ask them outright how they'll react if we sign a dark-skinned player. "If the fans don't agree with me, I won't do it. I won't buy a player who won't be accepted by the fans." Truly shocking for a man of his experience to come out with something like that. It's like something you'd expect to read from the 1970's. Yet another reason for giving this game a body swerve methinks. It would be like watching a boxing match between Ian Paisley and Nick Griffin, I wouldn't know who to support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy boag delivers Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 When is the Uefa cup final trying to find the details of when it is in the papers but is no mention of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest midTONs Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 I didn't quite believe that could be true, but apparently it is.... http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/t...ers/7398400.stm Manager Dick Advocaat has even admitted that the fans' attitude has affected his transfer policy. "The problem is our fans," he says. "I would be happy to sign anyone but the fans don't like black players. "I don't understand how they could pay so much attention to skin colour. For me, there's no difference between white, black or red. "But the fans are the most important thing Zenit have. That's why, in future, I have to ask them outright how they'll react if we sign a dark-skinned player. "If the fans don't agree with me, I won't do it. I won't buy a player who won't be accepted by the fans." Truly shocking for a man of his experience to come out with something like that. It's like something you'd expect to read from the 1970's. Yet another reason for giving this game a body swerve methinks. It would be like watching a boxing match between Ian Paisley and Nick Griffin, I wouldn't know who to support. Just a thought, I wonder given LeyTONs stance on morals if he will watch this game tonight and if so who will get his support, racism or sectarianism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAFKAC Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 only if they leave out the bit they add saying f*** the pope and the Vatican Exactly. They feel compelled to add a wee bit to everything. I didn't quite believe that could be true, but apparently it is.... http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/t...ers/7398400.stm Manager Dick Advocaat has even admitted that the fans' attitude has affected his transfer policy. "The problem is our fans," he says. "I would be happy to sign anyone but the fans don't like black players. "I don't understand how they could pay so much attention to skin colour. For me, there's no difference between white, black or red. "But the fans are the most important thing Zenit have. That's why, in future, I have to ask them outright how they'll react if we sign a dark-skinned player. "If the fans don't agree with me, I won't do it. I won't buy a player who won't be accepted by the fans." Truly shocking for a man of his experience to come out with something like that. It's like something you'd expect to read from the 1970's. Yet another reason for giving this game a body swerve methinks. It would be like watching a boxing match between Ian Paisley and Nick Griffin, I wouldn't know who to support. You don't trust me? Shame. That's the bit I had read this morning. Pretty poor stuff. "I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it." George Bernard Shaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest David Edwards Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 only if they leave out the bit they add saying f*** the pope and the Vatican Do Rangers fans sing that? I'm shocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davie McArthur Posted May 14, 2008 Author Share Posted May 14, 2008 In other news, Scotch eggs contain eggs. The point of the thread was to ask the question will the Manchester police do what they say and arrest those singing sectarian or racist songs? MARTY OUT!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cet Homme Charmant Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 You don't trust me? Shame. I promise I'll never doubt your word ever again. I've learned my lesson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cet Homme Charmant Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 In other news, Scotch eggs contain eggs. The point of the thread was to ask the question will the Manchester police do what they say and arrest those singing sectarian or racist songs? Unless every policeman in Manchester has his very own Russian translator how will they know if the Zenit fans are singing racist songs or not? And of course there's a grey area in defining what is and what isn't sectarian. Some would argue that The Sash for example isn't sectarian because it doesn't contain any overtly anti-Catholic lyrics. It's as hollow an excuse as the one Celtic fans use for defending the singing of pro-IRA songs by saying they're not sectarian but political. There's little doubt in my mind that both The Sash and pro-IRA songs are sung with sectarian intent behind them. I hate the OF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest David Edwards Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 I hate the OF. And the OF hate each other. And hate the likes of you and me maybe. All this hatred- man, it's bad vibes - bad karma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cet Homme Charmant Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 And the OF hate each other. And hate the likes of you and me maybe. All this hatred- man, it's bad vibes - bad karma. Hey David, I'm just an old hippy like you man. The only thing I hate is hatred itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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