Tonsilitis Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 The trouble with most countries with a "stan" at the end of their name is that in lots of them, large swathes of the population still live in essentially medieval times with medieval outlooks on life. They interpret their religion literally and if their perverted view of Islam means an 11 year old girl needs to be shot because she wants an education, thats OK. I would like to think that if the perpetrators go to their heaven, Allah will cut the balls off them and send them straight to the Islamic equivalent of hell. I wonder where it says in the Koran that the shooting of a wee lassie is anything less than a disgusting and sickening criminal act? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAFKAC Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 She was 14 and it was a despicable act. But don't let your bigotry and intolerance get in the way of constructing a logical argument. Taliban are a scum minority. But they are a scum minority with big guns. The big guns allow them to keep poor uneducated people in a position of servitude. If only the large swathes of the population could rid themselves of the taliban. Remind me when we introduced universal suffrage? I'm sure it was post-medieval. "I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it." George Bernard Shaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasta Ton Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 BBC News Report She was not shot because she was "too western" she was shot because she stood up to an oppressive millitant regime. Hopefully all of Pakistan will take to her and her cause and rid their country of these power hungry nutters who use their twisted concept of Islam as a front to terrorise people. FIRST DIVISION RUNNERS UP 2012/13 Hey Man - Enough of your Stupidness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spot Ton Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 The trouble with most countries with a "stan" at the end of their name is that in lots of them, large swathes of the population still live in essentially medieval times with medieval outlooks on life. They interpret their religion literally and if their perverted view of Islam means an 11 year old girl needs to be shot because she wants an education, thats OK. I would like to think that if the perpetrators go to their heaven, Allah will cut the balls off them and send them straight to the Islamic equivalent of hell. I wonder where it says in the Koran that the shooting of a wee lassie is anything less than a disgusting and sickening criminal act? Too true.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puggsy_ton Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Too true.. Gay marriage here springs to mind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott_Gillan Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 One brave girl standing up to them , I just hope this doesnt deter other brave individuals from standing up for there beliefs and I hope this may have the opposite effect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 The trouble with most countries with a "stan" at the end of their name is that in lots of them, large swathes of the population still live in essentially medieval times with medieval outlooks on life. Ah bless: casual racism because you can get away with it. What a nasty piece of work you are. The site is supposed to be a place for the extended 'family' of Morton supporters - having an affinity with people that you don't know, because you share a love of your local football club. It's not supposed to be about point scoring and showing how 'clever' or 'funny' you are, or just being downright rude and offensive to people you don't know, because you can get away with it. Unfortunately, it seems the classic case of people who have little standing/presence in real life, use this forum as a way of making themselves feel as if they are something. It's sad, and I've said that before.. So, having been on Morton forums for about 15 years I guess, I've had enough... well done t*ssers, another Morton supporter driven away. You can all feel happy at how 'clever' you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonsilitis Posted October 10, 2012 Author Share Posted October 10, 2012 Ah bless: casual racism because you can get away with it. What a nasty piece of work you are. Where do you get racist from that comment? And as for nasty individuals, pots and kettles and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonsilitis Posted October 10, 2012 Author Share Posted October 10, 2012 She was 14 and it was a despicable act. But don't let your bigotry and intolerance get in the way of constructing a logical argument. Taliban are a scum minority. But they are a scum minority with big guns. The big guns allow them to keep poor uneducated people in a position of servitude. If only the large swathes of the population could rid themselves of the taliban. Remind me when we introduced universal suffrage? I'm sure it was post-medieval. Firstly re the age of the girl, I got that wrong. She was apparently 11 when she started her blog. I am not quite sure why getting her age wrong matters in the context of what I was saying or why stating facts amounts to bigotry or intolerance? Nowhere did I criticise Islam as such. Look, I will bow to your first hand knowledge of what goes on on the ground in these countries and I don't doubt that many/most of the ordinary folk detest the Taliban but when you look at how country people live in the places I refer to, many of them live in what I would call medieval conditions. That just seems to be a fact to me. the Taliban did not just happen. They are a product of conditions existing in the country and thats where they have picked up their religious beliefs which in terms of intolerance to any deviation therefrom, is right up there with the inquisition. And there seems to be plenty of them! Universal suffrage in this country did indeed come late in the sense of women getting the vote. I would like to think though that we have no history of killing wee girls because they wanted an education. Not for hundreds of years anyway. I have no more feeling against Islam than any other mainstream religion and for me, one religious fanatic is much like another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Where do you get racist from that comment? Your sweeping description of hundreds of millions of people as being 'medieval' for a start. What evidence did you have to support this accusation? Do the Taliban have a hundred million members? So: casual racism it is. And as for nasty individuals, pots and kettles and all that. *sweep sweep sweep* The site is supposed to be a place for the extended 'family' of Morton supporters - having an affinity with people that you don't know, because you share a love of your local football club. It's not supposed to be about point scoring and showing how 'clever' or 'funny' you are, or just being downright rude and offensive to people you don't know, because you can get away with it. Unfortunately, it seems the classic case of people who have little standing/presence in real life, use this forum as a way of making themselves feel as if they are something. It's sad, and I've said that before.. So, having been on Morton forums for about 15 years I guess, I've had enough... well done t*ssers, another Morton supporter driven away. You can all feel happy at how 'clever' you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonsilitis Posted October 10, 2012 Author Share Posted October 10, 2012 BBC News Report She was not shot because she was "too western" she was shot because she stood up to an oppressive millitant regime. Hopefully all of Pakistan will take to her and her cause and rid their country of these power hungry nutters who use their twisted concept of Islam as a front to terrorise people. There was a quote on the news this morning that she was too pro western ideals and in the same spot they said that the Taliban had said if she survives being shot, they will come back and finish the job. I accept though that everything you have said is correct also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alibi Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Gay marriage here springs to mind! That's a ridiculous analogy. We're talking here about a young girl being shot. "Any nation given the opportunity to regain its national sovereignty and which then rejects it is so far beneath contempt that it is hard to put words to it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonsilitis Posted October 10, 2012 Author Share Posted October 10, 2012 Your sweeping description of hundreds of millions of people as being 'medieval' for a start. What evidence did you have to support this accusation? Do the Taliban have a hundred million members? So: casual racism it is. *sweep sweep sweep* It might have been a categorisation but it was certainly not intended to be a racist categorisation. It is however, a statement of fact that in many of the countries referred to, people live in conditions last seen in the Western world hundreds of years ago. I am not sure how many houses in the Western world are constructed from mud and straw bricks, for example! Taking Afghanistan as an example, try this link Clicky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cet Homme Charmant Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I am not sure how many houses in the Western world are constructed from mud and straw bricks, for example! Eh? What's poverty got to do with religous fundamentalism and extremism? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonsilitis Posted October 10, 2012 Author Share Posted October 10, 2012 Eh? What's poverty got to do with religous fundamentalism and extremism? Absolutely nothing but it has plenty to do with describing people as living in medieval conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest David Edwards Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 The trouble with most countries with a "stan" at the end of their name is that in lots of them, large swathes of the population still live in essentially medieval times with medieval outlooks on life. They interpret their religion literally and if their perverted view of Islam means an 11 year old girl needs to be shot because she wants an education, thats OK. I must admit I didn't expect such ill considered nonsense from you. Too true.. But you didn't surprise me in the least. Ah bless: casual racism because you can get away with it. That's about the size of it, be it conscious or unconscious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cappiecat Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Between this and pie and bovril it's not Tonsilitis' best week online. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cet Homme Charmant Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Absolutely nothing but it has plenty to do with describing people as living in medieval conditions. Ah, but you didn't though, did you. You said they had 'medieval outlooks on life'. The bizarre connection to fundamentalists and 'living in mud huts' came later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spot Ton Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I must admit I didn't expect such ill considered nonsense from you. But you didn't surprise me in the least. That's about the size of it, be it conscious or unconscious. Oh good :lol: I suppose mark two will be along any time soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 It might have been a categorisation but it was certainly not intended to be a racist categorisation. Sweeping generalities based on extremist views and a ludicrous 'ending with 'stan' definition tend to achieve that as a rule. It is however, a statement of fact that in many of the countries referred to, people live in conditions last seen in the Western world hundreds of years ago. Is the term 'medieval' applicable to living conditions? What denotes 'non-medieval' living conditions, and why are they relevant to this case? Taking Afghanistan as an example, try this link Clicky Try this link for what, evidence that Afghanistan is in fact not a medieval society? Presumably you'll be peddling Pakistan next in your 'list of countries that end in 'stan, conveniently ending at two' The site is supposed to be a place for the extended 'family' of Morton supporters - having an affinity with people that you don't know, because you share a love of your local football club. It's not supposed to be about point scoring and showing how 'clever' or 'funny' you are, or just being downright rude and offensive to people you don't know, because you can get away with it. Unfortunately, it seems the classic case of people who have little standing/presence in real life, use this forum as a way of making themselves feel as if they are something. It's sad, and I've said that before.. So, having been on Morton forums for about 15 years I guess, I've had enough... well done t*ssers, another Morton supporter driven away. You can all feel happy at how 'clever' you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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