capitanus Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Haw-hee-haw-hee-hawwww http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39686993 Marine Le Pen. *insert signature here* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaunTon Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 I expect she'll do a bit better than her old man before getting convincingly defeated in the run off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdoc1874 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Poor left whingers getting an multinational kicking, keep it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cet Homme Charmant Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 I expect she'll do a bit better than her old man before getting convincingly defeated in the run off. Indeed that's almost certainly what will happen, the polls have Macron between ~60 and 65% in the run-off. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/french-election-emmanuel-macron-beat-marine-le-pen-lose-second-round-president-france-vote-fn-a7698946.html?cmpid=facebook-post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitanus Posted April 24, 2017 Author Share Posted April 24, 2017 Indeed that's almost certainly what will happen, the polls have Macron between ~60 and 65% in the run-off. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/french-election-emmanuel-macron-beat-marine-le-pen-lose-second-round-president-france-vote-fn-a7698946.html?cmpid=facebook-post It's funny how The Independent gets rubbished as a credible news source if/when it says less than sympathetic to the pro-SNP tartan seperatist movement, however it's good enough for things like this. *insert signature here* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitanus Posted April 24, 2017 Author Share Posted April 24, 2017 That's better: *insert signature here* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cet Homme Charmant Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 It's funny how The Independent gets rubbished as a credible news source if/when it says less than sympathetic to the pro-SNP tartan seperatist movement, however it's good enough for things like this. I was actually referring to the BVA, Harris Interactive, Ifop, Ipsos and Opinion Way polls contained within the article, rather than the article itself. Anyway, time will tell, fancy a wee charity wager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRVMP Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 She has stepped down as FN leader, I assume in order to try to win broader appeal. I highly doubt it'll work. But it's a last-ditch effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitanus Posted April 24, 2017 Author Share Posted April 24, 2017 I was actually referring to the BVA, Harris Interactive, Ifop, Ipsos and Opinion Way polls contained within the article, rather than the article itself. Anyway, time will tell, fancy a wee charity wager? Nah, I don't want to have to depend on the French for anything and they will probably vote for a Frenchman anyway, instead of voting the right way. You tried a stunt like that before anyway, and you wanted to give money to the Gays. *insert signature here* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRVMP Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Poor left whingers getting an multinational kicking, keep it up. The dialectic of today in the West is not left versus right, it's nationalist versus globalist. And Macron is the globalist nonpareil. And he's likely to win by a very large margin. If you view either a Le Pen or a Macron win as a victory over 'the left' then you need to ask yourself why beating them matters and why you're more worried about that than the enormous chasm between the policies of Macron and those of Le Pen. To be clear you're not the only person who is still fixated on an 80s view of politics. The National Review, the de facto organ of mainstream Republicans in the US, wants Macron because... Le Pen wants to nationalize predatory banks. That is her cardinal sin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cet Homme Charmant Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 You tried a stunt like that before anyway, and you wanted to give money to the Gays. I did indeed, and you bottled it then as well. You can choose who the money goes to if Le Pen wins, as long as it's a registered charity I'll be happy to pay up. 'Mon Paul, grow a pair and put your money where your mouth is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRVMP Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 I did, and you bottled it then as well. You can choose who the money goes to if Le Pen wins, as longs as it's a registered charity I'll be happy to pay up. 'Mon Paul, grow a pair and put your money where your mouth is. He should only be taking that bet of you're laying odds commensurate with opinion polling, because it was pretty accurate for round one. (The 'shy Tory' and/or monster vote doesn't seem to exist in France.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaunTon Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 She has stepped down as FN leader, I assume in order to try to win broader appeal. I highly doubt it'll work. But it's a last-ditch effort. With her campaign to erase her name and this she really is pulling out the stops. She'll be wearing a burka by next week if she thinks there's a chance of an extra vote or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRVMP Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 With her campaign to erase her name and this she really is pulling out the stops. She'll be wearing a burka by next week if she thinks there's a chance of an extra vote or two. Bit of an exaggeration, that. The FN is analogous to Ukip in that its membership and support doesn't translate into seats, except in the EP (which is the South of Scotland league of politics.) It's a tool for leaders, nothing more. She's within her rights to try for a broader appeal. Now, that said, I am highly skeptical that it'll work. Those who say "I could never vote FN" are not going to change their mind based on this, in my view. But I could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRVMP Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 In any case, the PS aside, major parties in France are transitory. Macron's party was formed for this election. I wouldn't get too hung up in some kind of betrayal of the party here. They're not venerable institutions like in the US or UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitanus Posted April 24, 2017 Author Share Posted April 24, 2017 I did indeed, and you bottled it then as well. You can choose who the money goes to if Le Pen wins, as long as it's a registered charity I'll be happy to pay up. 'Mon Paul, grow a pair and put your money where your mouth is. Ach why not. We'll call it a score for Erskine Hospital ? *insert signature here* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cet Homme Charmant Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Ach why not. We'll call it a score for Erskine Hospital ? Sounds good to me, great choice! How much is a 'score' by the way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitanus Posted April 24, 2017 Author Share Posted April 24, 2017 Sounds good to me, great choice! How much is a 'score' by the way? £20, Edit to add I'll gift aid as well as it will be worth an extra £4 for them. *insert signature here* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdoc1874 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 The dialectic of today in the West is not left versus right, it's nationalist versus globalist. And Macron is the globalist nonpareil. And he's likely to win by a very large margin. If you view either a Le Pen or a Macron win as a victory over 'the left' then you need to ask yourself why beating them matters and why you're more worried about that than the enormous chasm between the policies of Macron and those of Le Pen. To be clear you're not the only person who is still fixated on an 80s view of politics. The National Review, the de facto organ of mainstream Republicans in the US, wants Macron because... Le Pen wants to nationalize predatory banks. That is her cardinal sin. Your wee lefties took a big hit, whether my thinking is is 80's 90's or whatever, you are still losing election after election globally. I must applaud you on your your use of big words, stylish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cet Homme Charmant Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 £20, Edit to add I'll gift aid as well as it will be worth an extra £4 for them. Nice one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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