Megrahi........ A Curious Case...............................

[Tom_McB]

If this confused state of affairs has demonstrated anything at all, it's how little Scottish government and jurisprudence matters. Salmond and McCaskill are belittling both by showing how hopelessly prone they are to external influences.

That's already clear.

 

They want Indie- pence-dance. Yet will sell out to the Eu.

 

Parcel o' Rogues.

 

I don't care about that, it won't happen. I care that the pair of pricks make our justice system look to be bought and sold for libyan gold <_>

 

Such a parcel o' rogues in a nation. <_>

[cmdc]

A debate would serve little purpose. The decision is Kenny McCaskill's, acting on the advice he has given. I don't think the likes of Duncan McNeill would add anything worthwhile to the discussions frankly. It's not a party political decision, it's a government decision. He can answer their questions after the event, whatever he decides. Another benefit of that would be emphasizing to Labour and to Tavish Scott (is he the son of Hugh?) how little they actually matter nowadays.

 

I understand where you are coming from, but I'm not asking for debte, I'm asking for scrutiny, be it from the parliament chamber, or from one of the parliament committees. What the parliament adds to the process is publicity (in the sense of shedding light on the decision making process, and the factors which influence it). I don't necessarily think that parliament should decide the matter, but they should have the power to ask serious questions of the minister responsible for making that or any decision.

[Colkitto]

I understand where you are coming from, but I'm not asking for debte, I'm asking for scrutiny, be it from the parliament chamber, or from one of the parliament committees. What the parliament adds to the process is publicity (in the sense of shedding light on the decision making process, and the factors which influence it). I don't necessarily think that parliament should decide the matter, but they should have the power to ask serious questions of the minister responsible for making that or any decision.

 

 

He has to make the decision first before MSP's can ask questions.

[Colkitto]

That's already clear.

 

They want Indie- pence-dance. Yet will sell out to the Eu.

 

Parcel o' Rogues.

 

I don't care about that, it won't happen. I care that the pair of pricks make our justice system look to be bought and sold for libyan gold <_>

 

Such a parcel o' rogues in a nation. <_>

 

Parcel o' Rogues

 

Fareweel to all our Scottish fame

Fareweel our ancient glory

Fareweel even to our Scottish Cname

Saefamed in martial story

Now Sark rins to the Solway sands

And Tweed rins to the Ocean.

To mark where Englands province stands

Sic a parcel of rogues in a nation

 

What force or guile could not subdue

Through many warlike ages

Is wrought now by a coward few

For hireling traitors wages

The English steel we could disdain

Secure in valours station.

But English gold has been our bane

Sic a parcel of rogues in a nation.

 

I would, ere I had seen the day

When treason thus could sell us

My auld grey head had lain in clay

Wi’ Bruce and loyal Wallace

But pith and power ‘till my last hour

I’ll make this declaration.

We were bought and sold for English gold

Sic a parcel of rogues in a nation

[Davie McArthur]

Parcel o' Rogues

 

Fareweel to all our Scottish fame

Fareweel our ancient glory

Fareweel even to our Scottish Cname

Saefamed in martial story

Now Sark rins to the Solway sands

And Tweed rins to the Ocean.

To mark where Englands province stands

Sic a parcel of rogues in a nation

 

What force or guile could not subdue

Through many warlike ages

Is wrought now by a coward few

For hireling traitors wages

The English steel we could disdain

Secure in valours station.

But English gold has been our bane

Sic a parcel of rogues in a nation.

 

I would, ere I had seen the day

When treason thus could sell us

My auld grey head had lain in clay

Wi’ Bruce and loyal Wallace

But pith and power ‘till my last hour

I’ll make this declaration.

We were bought and sold for English gold

Sic a parcel of rogues in a nation

 

Could you translate and repost that in English please?

 

[Colkitto]

Could you translate and repost that in English please?

 

 

Ask Tom McB. He likes to Anglisize all things..................

[mortonjag]

Gordon Newall? I don't know him personally, but I recognise the name from some work I did a while back for the Centre for the Study of Terrorism and Political Violence.

I have a son of that name!

[Tom_McB]

Ask Tom McB. He likes to Anglisize all things..................

 

Whereas you seem to prefer to Americanize things.

 

You're in good company, Kenny and Eck seem to do what the yanks tell them.

 

<_>

 

[Colkitto]

Whereas you seem to prefer to Americanize things.

 

You're in good company, Kenny and Eck seem to do what the yanks tell them.

 

<_>

 

 

We shall see tomorrow afternoon......

[Queen of Sheba]

Newsflash, he will be released within the next 12 hours.

[Tom_McB]

Newsflash, he will be released within the next 12 hours.

 

So a man found guilty by a Scottish court of mass murder gets out of Jail.

 

That's OK, Eck and Kenny the Knut are selling Justice out for Money ( oil variety).

 

What a parcel o' rogues indeed.

[Tom_McB]

We shall see tomorrow afternoon......

 

You''ll be happy if a mass murderer walks to further oils deals? <_>

 

[Scotsguy40]

As our Justice Minister will announce his decision on the Libyan tomorrow, if he is released or a prisoner transfer to his homeland then our Government needs to resign. What a slap in the face for Scotland and for the memory of those who lost their lives both in the air and on the ground.

 

We've become the laughing stock of the western world. Watch out for news of a trade deal with Libya and Grangemouth expansion.

[Guest David Edwards]

So a man found guilty by a Scottish court of mass murder gets out of Jail.

 

That's OK, Eck and Kenny the Knut are selling Justice out for Money ( oil variety).

 

What a parcel o' rogues indeed.

 

 

You''ll be happy if a mass murderer walks to further oils deals?

 

 

As our Justice Minister will announce his decision on the Libyan tomorrow, if he is released or a prisoner transfer to his homeland then our Government needs to resign. What a slap in the face for Scotland and for the memory of those who lost their lives both in the air and on the ground.

 

We've become the laughing stock of the western world. Watch out for news of a trade deal with Libya and Grangemouth expansion.

 

Ach well, bang goes Eck's new tomorrow of honesty, integrity and justice. But as T.I.D. said 'Hey, that's politics'.

[Colkitto]

You''ll be happy if a mass murderer walks to further oils deals? <_>

 

 

Are you suggesting the nationalist government in Scotland has done a deal with a unionist government at Westminster ?

All I have heard from unionists is the SNP pick a fight with Westminster at every opportunity since coming to power- you can't have it both ways !

[Colkitto]

As our Justice Minister will announce his decision on the Libyan tomorrow, if he is released or a prisoner transfer to his homeland then our Government needs to resign. What a slap in the face for Scotland and for the memory of those who lost their lives both in the air and on the ground.

 

We've become the laughing stock of the western world. Watch out for news of a trade deal with Libya and Grangemouth expansion.

 

 

Grangemouth expansion ?? How does the SNP government benefit out of that (even if it were true)?

We don't keep our own taxes up here remember.....they go to London !

[Guest David Edwards]

Could you translate and repost that in English please?

 

The Lallans is fine, the poem would lose almost everything in translation. I'm surprised at you Davie, don't you know that? Did you miss Burns lessons at school and in the Young Communists? Missing once is misfortune, twice is carelessness.

[michigan_ton]

Media circus round the corner anyway, so something must be happening soon.

 

I feel sorry for the guy, banged up for something he didn't do. Would've loved his appeal with the 'new evidence' to have gone ahead. Hopefully that evidence can be released to the public at some stage.

[Guest David Edwards]

Are you suggesting the nationalist government in Scotland has done a deal with a unionist government at Westminster ?

All I have heard from unionists is the SNP pick a fight with Westminster at every opportunity since coming to power- you can't have it both ways !

 

 

Grangemouth expansion ?? How does the SNP government benefit out of that (even if it were true)?

We don't keep our own taxes up here remember.....they go to London !

 

Col, surely you must suspect that there is chicanery afoot. Why release a convicted mass murderer who has withdrawn his right to appeal? Compassionate grounds? Sorry, but that doesn't make sense.

[Tom_McB]

Are you suggesting the nationalist government in Scotland has done a deal with a unionist government at Westminster ?

All I have heard from unionists is the SNP pick a fight with Westminster at every opportunity since coming to power- you can't have it both ways !

 

Nope, they are having it both ways, they have done a deal with the devil .