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4 hours ago, Cet Homme Charmant said:

The reason for saying 'if true' is because of course you need to hear all sides of the argument before you can make a balanced judgement.

It's not clear from the video if Newcastle and the Premier League had been asked to comment and give their side of the story as to why this lady has been banned. If they hadn't been asked, then of course that's an obvious omission and leaves the open question as to why they didn't do so. If, on the other hand, they had been asked and they refused to give an explanation, then that casts even more doubt and suspicion on them. 

Obviously, the Premier League cannot be monitoring the social media output of every fan who attends the games. Even if they wanted to, the resources required to do that would be enormous. If we can assume that they're not, then it's also logical to assume this lady was specifically investigated for a reason. Of course that doesn't mean she's done anything wrong, it could easily have been a malicious or vacuous complaint that led to her being investigated. But, unfortunately, they did not show us the social media posts that led to her ban. If they're as innocuous as they claim, then of course it's outrageous that she has been banned. But the fact they they did show them could perhaps suggest there was a bit more to them then they're letting on. And Toby Young does have a bit of form when it comes to spreading misinformation.

But, like I said, if what's claimed in the video is true, then this lady has undoubtedly been treated abysmally, and almost certainly illegally, in which case, she'd probably have a very strong case if she decided to take Newcastle and the Premier League to court for damages. I'm sure there would be plenty of lawyers out there willing to take it on in a pro bono no-win, no-fee basis.

 

It has been covered in multiple media outlets in the UK, and the woman in question made a subject access request and received a copy of the 11-page dossier.  Here is probably one of the better news reports of the whole episode, which also shows the tweet in question and the EPL report cover:  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13046385/Thousands-football-fans-secretly-investigated-Premier-Leagues-Stasi-spy-agency-political-views-Newcastle-United-supporter-banned-matches-gender-critical-posts.html

Any journalist worth his salt would know there is more than one side to every story, and would seek all sides for balance and clarity, but thats not to say that all parties will comment especially if it doesnt show their side in the best possible light.  This is something which the SNP do regularly with all their recent scandals.  I'm pretty sure no journalist needs to be told how to do their job by yourself.

 

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1 hour ago, HamCam said:

The Daily Mail is one of the better news reports 😂.

Well Nigel if you compare all of the news reports on the case, and you'll probably find that you'll get more information from their report than any of the others.

Still, don't let that get in the way of your prejudices.   :rolleyes:

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7 hours ago, HamCam said:

I will stick to the Beano thank you very much and allow you more time to read your fishing magazines 

Thank you for your contribution.

 

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