bigdoc1874 Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/broadcasting/n...rt-murdoch.html You are in good company Didn't you understand the question, no you didn't did you diddums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianton Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Regardless of his personal life and his political ambition Sheridan has done a more than worthwhile job campaigning for the lot of the disadvantaged in society, against poll tax and nuclear weapons, for the rights of asylum seekers, against loan sharks and for creditable programmes like free meals for schoolchildren. To put him on the same level as a grubby bigot like Murdoch is a slur on yourself, frankly. Well said.Agree 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom_McB Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Oh I dunno, lowering the standards of British media to vapid stories about folk shagging, the illegality of News International on all fronts at the moment, using his media influence to malevolently shape British politics to his designs for the last generation and funding -central 'news channels' like Fox to press forward a vile, right-ring and above all factually incorrect agenda. ] But I guess so long as we get a bit of gossip and Jeff on a Saturday it balances out. Ah, the innocence of youth. I hate to tell you this but the press was full of vapid stories about shagging before Rupe appeared. Lord Rothermere loved to use his influence to push some very dodgy agendas, and the Daily Worker was indeed in receipt of Moscow gold. Rupe is no more of a bawsack than dirty Des. "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their consciences."The goal of Socialism is Communism- Lenin Je ne suis pas Marxiste : K Marx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrissiboi Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 US TV host Jon Stewart's take on this: (Embedded video on link starting 'Jon Stewart') http://gordonsrepublic.brandrepublic.com/2...dal-liveblog-2/ The funniest bit I found was the opinions of the Chinese The BBC reports on comments from Professor Guo Zhenzhi in Beijing’s Renmin Ribao who says “It is hard to believe that such eavesdropping activities were only confined to one media outletâ€. True. While another Chinese professor, Zhi Tingrong, tells Guangzhou’s Nanfang Ribao that hacking is “long-term and widespreadâ€, and reflects government weaknesses Read more: http://gordonsrepublic.brandrepublic.com/2.../#ixzz1SekihyBp Thats must be from the Stalin book of politicial outrage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrissiboi Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Ah, the innocence of youth. I hate to tell you this but the press was full of vapid stories about shagging before Rupe appeared. Lord Rothermere loved to use his influence to push some very dodgy agendas, and the Daily Worker was indeed in receipt of Moscow gold.Rupe is no more of a bawsack than dirty Des. They did give birth to satire and people like Hogarth . Lets face it if it wasn't for all the devious lying politicians and evil meglommaniacs Ian Hislop would be unemployed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom_McB Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 The funniest bit I found was the opinions of the Chinese The BBC reports on comments from Professor Guo Zhenzhi in Beijing’s Renmin Ribao who says “It is hard to believe that such eavesdropping activities were only confined to one media outletâ€. True. While another Chinese professor, Zhi Tingrong, tells Guangzhou’s Nanfang Ribao that hacking is “long-term and widespreadâ€, and reflects government weaknesses Read more: http://gordonsrepublic.brandrepublic.com/2.../#ixzz1SekihyBp Thats must be from the Stalin book of politicial outrage. Hislop has, for months, been pushing the story that all major newspapers are complicit in phone hacking, slinging the old bill bungs in exchange for info etc. "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their consciences."The goal of Socialism is Communism- Lenin Je ne suis pas Marxiste : K Marx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrissiboi Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Hislop has, for months, been pushing the story that all major newspapers are complicit in phone hacking, slinging the old bill bungs in exchange for info etc. That is it Tom, until the public outrage very few gave it any coverage. If your biggest rival was up to no good and got caught you would make it well known. The only reason not to expose this would be if you were up to the same thing but hadn't got caught. The only thing with this broad spectrum of the public inquiry will be the time factor in coming to a conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdoc1874 Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 I still cant see what all the fuss is about, politicians, press, police and heads of large corporations have always been corrupt and they always will be. It is funny though to see the moral minority being called to arms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom_McB Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 I still cant see what all the fuss is about, politicians, press, police and heads of large corporations have always been corrupt and they always will be. It is funny though to see the moral minority being called to arms. I reckon we have a right to expect the cops and politicians to be clean. Bent cops or MPs, immediate dismisal with total loss of pension rights, trial if necessary. "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their consciences."The goal of Socialism is Communism- Lenin Je ne suis pas Marxiste : K Marx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrissiboi Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 I still cant see what all the fuss is about, politicians, press, police and heads of large corporations have always been corrupt and they always will be. It is funny though to see the moral minority being called to arms. Yes that is true. It probably shows where individuals are prepared to do to succeed or to get to where they want to get to. Of course the cops, politicians and Judges etc have to show they uphold the law just as if you drive for a living if you get done for a motoring offence they come down harder on that individual as you are expected to act more responsibily. Having the Murdoch's being the speculation rather than making it up on someone else has a what goes around comes around. The other thing is while the world falls apart economically, US budget crisis, Euro going tits up our politicians can only agree on hacking some dead girls phone deserves some sort of action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest David Edwards Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Ah, the innocence of youth. I hate to tell you this but the press was full of vapid stories about shagging before Rupe appeared. Lord Rothermere loved to use his influence to push some very dodgy agendas, and the Daily Worker was indeed in receipt of Moscow gold. Rupe is no more of a bawsack than dirty Des. Ah, and with age come delusions of wisdom I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom_McB Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Ah, and with age come delusions of wisdom I suppose. Ipse dixit "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their consciences."The goal of Socialism is Communism- Lenin Je ne suis pas Marxiste : K Marx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest David Edwards Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Ipse dixit Yes I said it alright, about you and your inverted ageism. The stark injustices and inequalities perceived in youth are starker still now. Just because the answers seem more elusive doesn't mean you should stop looking for them. To give up isn't wisdom, it's just despair. And there isn't anything clever about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom_McB Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Yes I said it alright, about you and your inverted ageism. The stark injustices and inequalities perceived in youth are starker still now. Just because the answers seem more elusive doesn't mean you should stop looking for them. To give up isn't wisdom, it's just despair. And there isn't anything clever about that. Not what I said, VT made the assumption that The dirty digger transformed the British press from a fine upstanding body of men and women into a bunch of hacks and liars. BTW, good to see that that bawsack Hari has been exposed as a liar and fantasist. "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their consciences."The goal of Socialism is Communism- Lenin Je ne suis pas Marxiste : K Marx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazed'n'confused Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 As far as I am aware Mr Sheridan was found guilty of perjury by a jury,in a court of law, not bt TNOTW or the Murdochs. They are head of a dispicable media organisation no doubt of that. If home visits are part of his rehabilitation then thats fair enough,he should be treated no differently than anyone else that has been convicted. I have met him a few times as have others and felt it was always more about Tommy than anything or anyone else. SNP - STRONGER FOR SCOTLAND Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest David Edwards Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Not what I said, VT made the assumption that The dirty digger transformed the British press from a fine upstanding body of men and women into a bunch of hacks and liars. BTW, good to see that that bawsack Hari has been exposed as a liar and fantasist. You should know that Murdoch's rap sheet goes way beyond hacking and lying. The corrupt and corrupting megalomaniac has/had Prime Ministers in his pocket. And Hari's sins are mostly limited to incidences of plagiarism, plain and simple, a fairly common practice in journo land. Sheridan may be a liar and a fantasist, but not Hari. Long may he (Hari) continue to rattle your cage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom_McB Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 You should know that Murdoch's rap sheet goes way beyond hacking and lying. The corrupt and corrupting megalomaniac has/had Prime Ministers in his pocket. And Hari's sins are mostly limited to incidences of plagiarism, plain and simple, a fairly common practice in journo land. Sheridan may be a liar and a fantasist, but not Hari. Long may he (Hari) continue to rattle your cage. Murdochs a sleazebag for sure, the Lord Rothermere or Beaverbrook of his time, they were s***es too who had prime ministers in their pockets. As for the Hari boy......... Erm, have you not got the most recent Eye? A very short summary of the longer eye piece is Here There are more accusations of lies and deciet on other occassions, that two Eyes running now. (Is it not noses that run?) He has fabricated quotations, conducted non existent interviews, been sacked from at least two blatts before this for his lies, nope it's all coming home to roost and I'm lurving it. Hari, like Sheridan, is a self righteous ****. ETA what the hell's going on with the filter? S h i t and s h i t e are verboten? "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their consciences."The goal of Socialism is Communism- Lenin Je ne suis pas Marxiste : K Marx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cappiecat Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Ipse dixit You've been telt, ad nauseum, to stop posting in Latin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest David Edwards Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Murdochs a sleazebag for sure, the Lord Rothermere or Beaverbrook of his time, they were s***es too who had prime ministers in their pockets. Never, ever to the same extent and scale as Murdoch. And you should know that. As for the Hari boy......... Erm, have you not got the most recent Eye? A very short summary of the longer eye piece is Here There are more accusations of lies and deciet on other occassions, that two Eyes running now. (Is it not noses that run?) He has fabricated quotations, conducted non existent interviews, been sacked from at least two blatts before this for his lies, nope it's all coming home to roost and I'm lurving it. Hari, like Sheridan, is a self righteous ****. ETA what the hell's going on with the filter? S h i t and s h i t e are verboten? Obviously not. You keep spouting it. BTW Don't believe everything you read in the Murdoch Times or The Torygraph. There's 'something about' Hari that they don't like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forza ton Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 tommy sheridan was responsible for bringing the left to the forefront of scottish politics and also responsible for sending them back to square one. i always really liked the guy (as i've said on here before), and i thought he could have been one of the leading lights in an independent republic scotland.he was a fantastic orator - oh how his mumbling namesake , jim ,could have done with those skills against the murdochs <_ . i firmly believe the notw done a number on him. tommy failure was how he reacted to that. should have commented in passing that it bulls paper for morons no-one believed anyway. could then carried his position.> only idiots give a **** about who's shagging who. it's nowt to do with politics. it's personal not business - in the same way that ryan giggs is still my favourite footballer even though he was cheating on his wife. none of my business. tommy used it as an excuse to take on murdoch. it was too tempting for a guy like him and his ego got the better of him. i recently saw a review of allan mccombes book. i always liked him too. he was a sharp guy but lacked the public skills of sheridan. it was heartbreaking to read how tommy ****ed them over and dismantled the party piece by piece extra marital affairs should be easy for a good politician to deflect from. putting your colleagues in the dock ? no way back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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