Captain Sensible Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 This table shows the all time number of points won in Scotland's top flight: Team...........................Points 1. Rangers....................7524 2. Celtic.......................7199 3. Hearts......................5399 4. Aberdeen..................4929 5. Hibs..........................4590 6. Dundee.....................4199 7. Motherwell................4166 8. Partick......................3574 9. St. Mirren.................3562 10. Kilmarnock..............3477 11. Falkirk....................2807 12. Airdrie....................2717 13. Clyde.....................2532 14. Dundee Utd.............2379 15. Third Lanark...........2352 16. Morton...................2216 17. St. Johnstone..........1681 18. Hamilton.................1587 19. Queens Park...........1562 20. Ayr Utd...................1545 21. Raith......................1456 22. Dunfermline............1381 23. QoS.........................781 Note that Morton are below Third Lanark - who went out of business nearly 40 years ago. This is the Scottish Cup table of success since 1900: Team...................Winners...........Runners Up.......Semi Finalists 1. Celtic..................29......................16......................15 2. Rangers..............28.....................15.......................9 3. Aberdeen............7........................8........................16 4. Hearts.................3........................6........................16 5. Kilmarnock...........3.......................4.........................6 6. St. Mirren............3........................3.........................9 7. Clyde..................3........................3.........................8 8. Motherwell..........2........................4........................11 9. Falkirk................2........................1.........................5 10. Dunfermline......2........................1.........................2 11. Hibs..................1........................8.........................16 12. Dundee Utd......1.......................6..........................8 13. Dundee............1.......................4.........................10 14. Airdrie..............1.......................3..........................5 15. Third Lanark.....1.......................2.........................7 16. Morton.............1......................1..........................6 16. Partick..............1......................1.........................6 18. East Fife............1.......................2.........................1 19. Hamilton............0.......................2.........................3 20. Raith.................0........................1.........................4 Again, you'll note that Morton are below Third Lanark. Here is a table showing number of apearances in each division since reconstruction in 1975 of selected Scottish clubs. A few clubs have been excluded (eg Clydebank). Club............. Premier........ First............. Second......... Third Rangers........ 29................ 0.................. 0.................. 0 Celtic........... 29................ 0.................. 0.................. 0 Aberdeen...... 29................ 0.................. 0.................. 0 Dundee Utd... 28................ 1.................. 0.................. 0 Hibernian...... 27................ 2.................. 0.................. 0 Motherwell.... 25................ 4.................. 0.................. 0 Hearts.......... 25................ 4.................. 0.................. 0 Dundee........ 19................ 10................ 0.................. 0 St. Mirren..... 16................ 13................ 0.................. 0 Kilmarnock... 15................ 12................ 1.................. 0 Partick Th..... 12................ 14................ 3.................. 0 St Johnstone. 11................ 16................ 3........ ......... 0 Dunfermline.. 11................ 12................ 6.................. 0 Morton...........7.................. 18................ 3.................. 1.. Falkirk.......... 6................. 20................ 3......... ........ 0 Raith Rovers. 3.................. 20................ 6.................. 0 QoS............. 0.................. 10................ 19................ 0 Clyde........... 0.................. 17................ 12................ 0 Here is the all-time league table post reconstruction (1975). Its based on average league positions. 1.............. Rangers....................2.0 2.............. Celtic....................... 2.1 3.............. Aberdeen................. 4.3 4.............. Dundee Utd.............. 5.5 5.............. Hearts...................... 5.9 6.............. Hibernian.................. 6.9 7.............. Motherwell................ 8.3 8.............. Dundee.................... 9.4 9.............. St. Mirren................. 11.1 10............ Kilmarnock............... 11.9 11............ Partick...................... 13.9 12............ St.Johnstone............. 14.2 13............ Falkirk...................... 15.2 14............ Airdrie...................... 15.4 15............ Dunfermline.............. 15.5 16............ Morton...................... 16.3 17............ Clydebank................ 16.9 18............ Ayr Utd..................... 17.9 19............ Hamilton................... 18.6 20............ Raith Rovers............. 18.8 21............ Clyde....................... 22.4 22............ ICT.......................... 22.6 23............ Dumbarton............... 23.4 24............ Livingston................. 23.8 25............ Ross Co................... 25.9 26............ QoS......................... 26.4 And a couple of other facts. During these past 29 seasons since reconstruction, St. Mirren have finished above Morton 27 times with Morton finishing above St. Mirren only twice. And since 1905 (when reliable attendance records are available for), St. Mirren have had a bigger average home gate than Morton in 74 seasons with Morton having a higher gate than St. Mirren only 19 times. And lastly, here is a table that Morton do well in. Its the all time table of relegations in Scottish football. As you can see, Morton have been relegated more often than any other club in Scottish history. Morton...............11 Falkirk.................10 Raith..................9 Clyde…................9 Dunfermline........9 Stirling................9 Ayr.....................8 Hamilton.............8 Alloa...................7 East Fife..............7 St. Johnstone………6 Kilmarnock...........6 Queens Park.........6 Morton FC - Scotland's Most Relegated Club St. Mirren FC - Scotland's 6th Biggest Club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazTon Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 I see the Captain's found his way over to the new board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no soap in greenock Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 F*ck the old firm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubbaTON Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 that he has, can't wait for him to spout more of his pish in League points St Mirren are 9th. I thought you said they are Scotland's 6TH biggest club that Paisley education for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfever Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 http://www.mortonunofficial.com/features/s...statsmedals.php or you could follow this link, which shows you're talking bollocks What Carew can do with a ball, I can do with an orange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Sensible Posted July 15, 2005 Author Share Posted July 15, 2005 I see the Captain's found his way over to the new board. 1996[/snapback] I thought you'd appreciate the benefit of my statistical expertise. Also gives me the opportunity to expand my fan base. Morton FC - Scotland's Most Relegated Club St. Mirren FC - Scotland's 6th Biggest Club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazTon Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 that he has, can't wait for him to spout more of his pish in League points St Mirren are 9th. I thought you said they are Scotland's 6TH biggest club that Paisley education for you. 2001[/snapback] And I see people are already chewing away at the bait he put in the water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Sensible Posted July 15, 2005 Author Share Posted July 15, 2005 that he has, can't wait for him to spout more of his pish in League points St Mirren are 9th. I thought you said they are Scotland's 6TH biggest club that Paisley education for you. 2001[/snapback] The point is that after The Old Scum, Hearts, Hibs & Aberdeen, there a are a group of similar sized clubs, eg St. Mirren, Motherwell, Dundee, Kilmarnock, Partick, etc. Morton are not in that group - Morton are in the diddy group below. Morton FC - Scotland's Most Relegated Club St. Mirren FC - Scotland's 6th Biggest Club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfever Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 And I see people are already chewing away at the bait he put in the water. 2008[/snapback] What Carew can do with a ball, I can do with an orange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubbaTON Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 overall it doesn't make reading. BUT YOU STILL CAN'T COUNT going by those results the skunks are Scotland's 8th Biggest team - not 6th historically however we are the 15th historically but that is only going by those stats, plus you are from Paisley. So i will take off 8 places. Making you 16th statictically below us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubbaTON Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 i ain't biting, i know he likes to lay out the bait, so i will not bite. just stating a point that he speaks alot of pish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Robert the Bruce Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 Capitain welcome aboard, friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snudge Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 morton also acheived the record for fewest goal scored/most goals conceded in the top flight in one season the last two times you've been in the top flight you've conceded 100+ goals. can anyone confirm this? good luck with your shiny new board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubbaTON Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 should be some good banter now that Captain has signed up, along with the Bruce. i foresee a few bannings taking place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harko_Rajamaki Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 not sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Sensible Posted July 15, 2005 Author Share Posted July 15, 2005 should be some good banter now that Captain has signed up, along with the Bruce. i foresee a few bannings taking place. 2050[/snapback] There will be no bannings. Its only a bit of banter. Anyway, I stop for 2 weeks holiday today and won;t be back online for a fortnight. I'm missing the Renfrewshire Cup Final and everything. Never mind, I'll be back in time to see us start our campaign which will see us back in the SPL come the end of the season. PS - I actually quite fancy Morton to win the Second this season and will be putting £20 on a St. Mirren / Morton double at odds of 14/1............. Morton FC - Scotland's Most Relegated Club St. Mirren FC - Scotland's 6th Biggest Club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harko_Rajamaki Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 Ton will be promoted this season. I also don't think that St.Mirren are good enough to win promotion to the Premier. So we'll see them in the league next season and leapfrog them into the Premier lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boutros Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 Snudge, take it you're the same snudge from AltNaion? Don't think I like you if memory serves! BoutrosBoutros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubbaTON Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 the double for us and the skunks does look like a good option. You definately have a chance of promotion. Though Dundee are looking stronger everyday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Sensible Posted July 15, 2005 Author Share Posted July 15, 2005 the double for us and the skunks does look like a good option. You definately have a chance of promotion. Though Dundee are looking stronger everyday 2066[/snapback] They're looking weaker every day. They've just sold Steve Lovell. Morton FC - Scotland's Most Relegated Club St. Mirren FC - Scotland's 6th Biggest Club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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