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Nice try, but Strapp and Morton failed to agree terms when he left the first time. Lyon was released like countless other players deemed surplus to requirements by the end of their spell here. It is absolutely not spiting anything to base your transfer policy on proven evidence of performance at this football club over conjecture and bluster. Luke Donnelly 'performed' at a lower level and indeed later returned to Championship football: we shouldn't and thankfully didn't move to re-sign him at any point. What braying Arbroath fans said about his breathtaking talent for their club was irrelevant. Any move to re-sign Sean McGinty - who has played far more games at this level - would result in you having an aneurysm. So two issues: 1) The reason why people are placing Lyon in a different category is not down to objective achievement: it is subjective bias because he's a 'Morton product' and 'local boy'. This is double standards, but more importantly would be a piss-poor influence on the rational judgment of a professional football club. 2) The constant revisionism about how and why such starlets get cruelly jettisoned by the club is also one of the 527 reasons why we can Never Have Nice Things. That Imrie was having to field regular complaints about this two years ago in Q and As was not a good look; that the proposed investors had to handle similar old men yelling at clouds nonsense about guid youth products in the Cappielow meeting a few months ago was fucking wild.

Didn't see much of that experience showing, when the squad spent the last 6 weeks of the season shitting the bed in spectacular fashion though. He did have an impact against Airdrie, but we wouldn't have been in that situation had more effective leadership been in place - in the dugout, and in the squad too. A purge should have started nearly two full weeks ago and there should have been no such discussions with the vast majority of that squad.

You failed to comprehend the point. None of the above 4 players had blotted their copy book at this club, only to return because a bunch of seaside league diddy fans reckon that they're God's gift to football. On the other hand, we would not touch Gregor Buchanan with a bargepole again - whether he was 26 or 36 years old. Sean McGinty falls into the same category too. Your list precisely demonstrates the difference. To make this fully straightforward, let's use the 'professional football is a job' analogy - used every summer to justify utter mercenaries signing up for East Kilbride etc. If you were punted from an employer for piss-poor performance, then while you may find an alternative employer in the same field, you are not going to be brought back to do the same job again by the same organisation. That door has closed permanently.

Not really given the claim was: "even though it's league one, if the fans that watch you all season rate you then you must be doing something right?" And we've also signed older players at a lower ebb in their career in just that position in recent times too (Kirk Broadfoot) - but shouldn't be signing Buchanan or anyone else who has already blotted their copy book at this level. Move On Please.

Stenhousemuir fans would say that Gregor Buchanan has had an excellent season for them, en route to conceding a very small number of goals, finishing a country mile ahead of Queen of the South in the league campaign, and knocking them out of the play-offs too. Oh and they horsed us in the cup as well. So how many people would be happy if we re-signed that braying carthorse, off the back of recommendations by seaside league diddy fandom? The key difference between that scenario and our Prince in the Borders is guid local roots for the latter, rather than any objectively greater merit as a player. Which is not a sound basis for transfer policy.

Lyon was dropped and frozen out by multiple Morton managers - his big promise was already gone before Imrie came in the door. And if he didn't want to waste time on that project - that was his prerogative as manager. The only person responsible for that outcome was Lyon, R. Strapp has been a free agent multiple times too, yet no large offer came in. He is categorically not an upgrade on Delaney, which is why he had to play within the worst squad in the division in the first place (where were the serious offers in free agency, again?). None of the other players you list have done anything other than slide inexorably downwards - Alex King FFS. This thread is reason enough why there should be no such offers or discussion of offers frankly. The judgment made on such Braeside La Masia products by the fanbase is ludicrously rose-tinted: a clean break was and remains necessary for everyone to Move On Please.

Commiserations also to Dom 'Dom' Thomas for adding a humiliating relegation to his truly laughable CV, for a £2k per week show pony. Money well spent as ever!

Hearing malicious rumours that he signed a PCA with Alloa.

Lyon reliably failed to make the most of his ability through a lack of application - see every Morton manager who quickly punted him into touch - so floundering indefinitely in the seaside leagues is appropriate. High time that their silly little experiment with being a full-time club was brought to an end too.

Efe Ambrose won.

I'm not talking about the ones already under contract - nobody should be getting a new contract offer on the grounds that Dalrada will support their contract. If they haven't contributed enough on the park, they shouldn't be in next season's squad.

If they've been utter shite - which many have - then they should leave the club. Your transition strategy would have been perfectly reasonable, had said players performed to anywhere near an acceptable level over the past 8 weeks. They didn't though. Stuffing next season's squad with the same dross because Dalrada is paying for it sends the worst possible signals about lowering standards - yet further - than they've already been. This squad needs purged.

So, err, why didn't he resolve those issues prior to putting out the same garbage game plan and getting gubbed 4-0 by a rancid, League One bound Ross County side last week? And why didn't he resolve this issues between that disgrace and last night's game - with the sole exception of Delaney (whose absence was a mystery in the first place)? Are the players added to the squad in January and punted to the fringes by April not part of Murray's grand plan - if so, then how will GMFC navigate a full season of signing and then casually ditching players, to fit square pegs into round holes instead? Actions speak louder than words. The idea that Murray is either playing 3D chess with us all - or was hopelessly hamstrung by the existing squad - is belied by the evidence. A horrendous nosedive in performances and results since early March - and a complete failure to take any sort of serious corrective measures. Previous managers like Grady were rightly not given the opportunity to bullshit any further in the face of reality.

Just because some jobber can be underwritten by Dalrada doesn't mean that they should be at the club next season.

Shaw was an abysmal, gutless chancer tonight, and the fact that this is earning a pass is why we cannot ever have nice things at this once-proud football club. I don't disagree about your other points but this is precisely the problem - the standards at this club plummet so low that being the least bad of several dogshit performers gets viewed as being within the acceptable range. It shouldn't - and unless we are finally ruthless enough to purge this club of such low expectations, then next season is already bounded between 7th and 10th. So Murray will be fielding them at centre back alongside Wilson next season then. An utterly rancid shout btw, given that Stevie Wonder could have picked a more logical team tonight than the 'proper fitba man' in the dugout. Unless you think that there was some stunning tactical masterplan at work tonight - and last Saturday, and the one before that - that only an innate experience of the game can possibly comprehend.