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58 minutes ago, Mr.Blue said:
MacDonald looks to be a great signing. Still a very good keeper at this level and brings experience too. I thought Mullen had gotten off to a shaky start but recently he's been very good. Will be interesting to see how Dougie manages that situation.
Looking at the squad at the moment we still need a right back and another central midfielder. Heard Doyle is back training with us so he could be an option. Lawson who played for Hamilton last season has been mentioned as he plays midfield and at right back and Jamie Brandon has been banded about too. If Garrity goes out on loan then it would open up a space for a winger. I'm sure Dougie has players in mind. May be a case of playing the waiting game.
If Garrity goes out it's because we have too many wingers.
I'd like to think the last thing Dougie is thinking about is another winger.
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1 hour ago, Brian Skelton said:
According to the Record Imrie interested in bringing in goalie Jamie MacDonald.
Would be an ideal signing. Good experience in this league and I'm sure Mullen would benefit from working with him.
I know Scott is there, but he would probably be perfect for a player/coach role.
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10 hours ago, Jamie_M said:
Tiktok boy's latest video says he wasn't give a contract 'due to lack of funds to take a risk on someone who hasn't played in the league before'.
Anyway, looks like he's heading to Annan. Must have really impressed them in his 60 seconds cameo before Doyle's injury.
Nice way of saying you're not good enough I guess seeing as we are speaking to this Liverpool kid who also hasn't played in this league.
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Think I remember us breaking 1000 under the snake but they were discounted to £200 so was a complete no brainer to have one.
Hopefully a couple of good signings before Ayr game and we can shift a few more.
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12 minutes ago, RossMcC1874 said:Can I ask why we have such a limited budget for players when the club made a significant profit last year and we are debt free.
I keep hearing if the budget allows surely we can't be that skint after a profitable season last year.
Doubt many of us will know what our budget is and how it compares to last season/other clubs. I'd like to think it's at least the same as last season if not slightly improved.
"Budget allows' doesn't necessarily mean limited budget, Dougie could simply be targeting players who are on a significant weekly wage and he wants them to take a reduction to fit into our budget and still be very well paid.
Think Dougie will be playing the waiting game on a few players since we are not in urgent need of bodies like other teams.
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8 minutes ago, Greacen2000 said:
I would be delighted if we could get Brandon back. If fit, he would definitely be the ideal replacement for Grimshaw. Personally I would put Tumilty & Hodson at about the same level as Doyle but yeah they are all decent options and I would be fine with any of the above(including Doyle) if we cannot get Brandon
The fact a piss poor Accies punted him and replaced him with Tumilty should tell us how poor a player he is for this level now.
Tumilty and Hodson are comfortably better players IMO and I'm sure there are better options out there than Doyle.
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23 minutes ago, Greacen2000 said:
Michael Doyle has apparently been spotted training with us. I know the gaffer said in his recent interview not to read too much into any new faces we see in training as he would be allowing some lads to come in to work on their fitness etc, but this one would actually make sense given our need for a RB (and if I’m not mistaken I’m sure he is able to play at CB too?).
We can do much better than Doyle.
Hoping he is just training to keep fit, would be amazed if he was offered a deal.
Tumilty, Hodson, Brandon, if allowed to go out on loan, would be better options
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42 minutes ago, RossMcC1874 said:
Are we linked with anyone else? The squad is still pretty light at the moment and we need some more bodies. Obviously right back is the priority maybe even a couple of loans to just pad out the numbers a bit.
Would love to see Brandon back he was a brilliant player but I don't even know if we have the budget for someone like him.
I suspect Dougie is making us all wait in anticipation for some real gem signings.
Dougie said a few weeks back he hoped to have most of his squad in place for the start of pre-season today but we are clearly 5 or 6 players short. He said he wants a similar squad size to this season but also said 18 and 18-20 on different occasions so hopefully its closer to the 20 mark and we still have room for 5/6 more players.
Lost,
Schwake- replaced by Mullen.
Green
Strapp
Pignatiello
Ambrose- Replaced by Broadfoot.
Grimshaw.
A.Crawford.
Miller.
Roy.
and of course we save a few quid by Lyon going, although it turns out he left in Jan so his wage might have been used up by one of the Jan additions.
9 out the door, only 2 so far so work to do.
Think we ideally need;
Keeper
Right back-
Cover for LB/CB
Def midfielder
Att midfielder
Winger
Striker
That would give us a squad of 21. Probably wishful thinking but feel we got a bit lucky with injuries last season( Only Strapp was out long term) and if we go with a smaller squad and pick up 2 or 3 long term ones, we would really struggle. That 21 also includes Garrity and King who are still young and prob not on too much.( A new contract for King would be welcome)
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23 season tickets off last years total.
Would be disappointed if we don't get at least 1000.
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11 minutes ago, RossMcC1874 said:
Okay he can play at RB and CB but that's not exactly a signing to get excited about let's hope he doesn't play much. Hopefully we are looking at better depth than the likes of a 38 year old who is well past it.
Well past it is harsh IMO. Played every game for ICT as they reached the playoff final the season before last and was offered a deal to stay last season. Did similar for Killie the season before that too in the Premiership.
Seems like the kind of guy who takes care of himself and I'm sure he will do a job if called upon as well as providing experience around the place
As a 3rd choice CB, he's absolutely fine.
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On 5/12/2022 at 10:24 AM, BigHogTon said:
Being told by source close to club few signings for next season to be announced today. I’m being told McLean, Blues, Ugwu and Oliver all to be announced this morning. Ugwu and Blues 2 years. McLean and Oliver for 1
Same source which told you this pish last summer?
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1 hour ago, Mr.Blue said:
100% serious. He's a good player and came onto a game tail end of the season.
Think you'll be on your own with that one. He has done nothing to merit a deal from us. No coincidence that when we finally dropped him, we started winning games. Thankfully he is still contracted to St Johnstone in any case and I doubt he would want a deal with us anyway after how it's went.
Dougie hasn't made many mistakes recruitment wise but Ali Crawford and Ally Roy are 2 which haven't worked out with Kabia not too far behind.
Generally his recruitment has been excellent when you look at Grimshaw,R.Crawford, Efe, O'connor, Schwake, Baird, Oakley, Gillespie, Jai, Miller( eventually), Waters, Wilson and Brandon.
If he gets most of them right again this summer, we should have a very good season.
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47 minutes ago, Mr.Blue said:
Of those leaving I'd have liked to see strapp stay but we've been over that a million times. Also would t be against schwake and Crawford coming back next season.
Carlo leaving is a surprise although I think it's a good move for the club. Better options out there if we are seriously challenge for the league next season. Wonder of he'll look for a part time club as he has something else lined up outside of football. Would love to see big Efe join as a coach.
Not sure if serious...
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13 hours ago, RossMcC1874 said:
Would be happy for everyone to be signed up they have all earned new deals even Miller with his performances towards the end of the season. The only slight one I'm wary of is Quitongo I know he is a good player and has pace and power which no one else has but his injuries and end product are a concern for me.
Don't think we need to have a concern about his fitness.. He played 32 games this season. Probably missed as many games through suspension as he did being injured. He was sent off 3 times with a couple of them being extremely harsh IMO. Think we rightly had concerns when he signed but he's showed he can maintain his fitness for pretty much a full season.
On end product, aye he could definitely add more goals and assists to his game but there are very few players like him in this league who are so quick and direct and I'd much rather have him in our team than against us. We know on his day he can score a screamer out of no where like he did against Cove, just need to see more of it.
Think i said 4 or 5 weeks ago that I'd let Miller go but agree he has done really well the last few weeks so I'd be happy for him to sign on too. Like Grimshaw, think it took him time to get up to speed after being out for months, maybe it just took him longer than expected.
Miller, McGrattan, Jai and maybe one more would be decent options to occupy the wide areas.
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He's not signed yet, offer on table though.
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Just looking at the state of play for next season.
Signed up- Pignatiello, O'Connor, Baird. King, Blues, Gillespie, Lyon, McGrattan, R.Crawford, Garrity, Oakley, Muirhead,
Out of contract- Green, Ambrose, Grimshaw, Strapp, Miller, Quitongo.
Loans ending- Roy, Ali Crawford, Waters, Schwake
Loan returning- Lyon.
I'd be looking to move Garrity on, he needs to start playing regular football and he won't get that with us.
Of the out of contract players, I'd love Grimshaw to stay but highly unlikely. I'd be happy for Jai to get a new deal, think he's deserved it and if Big Efe is happy to be a backup, he can stay too but suspect he will be off. Miller was great last night but hasn't done enough since he got here, think we aim for better. Expect Green will move on and we know Strapp is off.
Of the loans, I'd offer Waters a deal. Think he has done well for us and is a decent replacement for Strapp. Schwake has done well overall but i think Dougie will be looking for a new number 1 and I'd be surprised if we ty and get him back. If Hamilton go down, we should try and get Fulton who I've always been impressed with. No comments required for A.Crawford and Roy.
Lyon- feck knows. Will Dougie give him one last chance, hopefully, we all know there is a player there and maybe the loan deal has given him the kick up the arse he needs.
Probably the best shape we've went into the Summer in years. If we had a keeper signed up, we could put a team out now which could easily compete in the cup group stages. Replace the 7 or 8 who will most likely move on with better and we should go into next season in good shape,
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Dougie not wanting him, wtf.
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3 hours ago, DreamOakTree said:
I’m basing my argument on consistent historical trends. When my Dad first took me to Cappielow in the early 60’s we were getting crowds of around 1500. When we started looking like genuine promotion contenders in 64 the supporters came flooding back as they’ve always done throughout our history. This was repeated in the late 70’s when Andy Ritchie arrived and led another promotion charge. Again we went from average crowds of 1500 to around 8000 for home games and 13000 overall, albeit in the Premiership. Similarly when McInnes, Lindberg and Rajamaki led us on another promotion push our crowds rose from around the same historic 1500 average when underperforming, to at least 3 times that number. Even in the lowest tier under Cowboy McCormack then the following season, again from around the same 1500 average, we recorded the record crowd Figures at just about every away ground we visited. For me it’s an undeniable outcome whenever we’ve looked like genuine promotion contenders, and a trend that I’ve no doubt will be repeated.
2012-2013 we were top for much of the season and struggled to get 2000 every week, not far off what we are now.
No chance in hell we are going to have fans flooding back in their thousands. We struggled to just over 4k for our biggest game in a generation against Aberdeen at Hampden.
We are right in the promotion hunt this season and we had 1800 on Saturday.
When are you expecting all these extra thousands to show up?
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18 minutes ago, DreamOakTree said:
Morton are still a bigger club than Livvi IMO. As soon as our sleeping fan base believe that we’re seriously going for promotion, they’ll return in their thousands. Livvi struggle to top our attendances even now, when that belief takes some amount of shifting sands. I’m hoping Dougie knows he can be (not just part of but) the catalyst for the return of the real Greenock Morton and what that means to Inverclyde. My main concern is that other club chairmen etc. will be watching our live Friday night games and see Dougie’s stellar organisational and man management skills in plain sight. Then to listen to his pre and post match interviews must tell them so much about his character as well as his abilities. I hope they’re not watching or listening.
We see this argument a lot that we are bigger than Livvy, Ross County, Hamilton etc etc and should be on a par with St Mirren etc but how long can that go on for? How do you measure it? How far back does the history need to go to prove it?
Look at Livvy in the last 25 years- 10 seasons in the top league and counting, 10k seated stadium which includes offices, training pitches etc, won the Challenge cup, won the League cup, got to another league cup final, won the 2nd Tier, played in Europe, been down to the 4rd tier and back up to the Premiership.
Aye their crowds are shit but they've achieved a hell of a lot more than us in the last 25 years. What we got? 1 League cup semi final appearance and came close to promotion once or twice. Our crowds aren't exactly something to be boasting about these days compared to 15-20 years ago.
It's been 34 years since we last played top flight football. Think we need to get away from thinking we are sleeping giant and are a big club compared to others who have achieved a hell of a lot more than we have in recent times. We are a classic Championship level club these days.
With Dougie and Dalrada, we do have a chance to change that though, time will tell.
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A signing to cement top 4.
Very happy if true. Dougie was on record saying Ali was his best mate in football so always thought it was a possibility.
Whilst not had many starts this season, just 4, he has came off the bench 15 times so there should be no concerns about being match fit.
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Time to get Quitongo signed up for next season.
He's been a real threat this season with his pace and works his arse off for the team. Many had doubts, including myself but he's been a breath of fresh air!
Deserves another year and hopefully he gets it.
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He has scored goals in this division before, just needs to find that form again and he will be a good signing. Slight concern that he hasn't really done it in a few years but I'm sure Dougie can get the best out of him. You see it time and time again when a player moves club, new manager ( who isn't Billy Fecking Dodds) new lease of life etc.
Decent competition for Muirhead, which is badly needed.
Hopefully 1 or 2 more to follow.
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2 hours ago, TRVMP said:
Reports from fans of his previous teams suggest this is an optimistic take. With that said, if anyone can get 90 minutes of effort from a player, it's Dougie, so I'm not hugely concerned.
Guessing he won't get many 90 min appearances from us, more than likely replace a nackered Muirhead/New Striker or come on when we are behind to try and salvage something from a game.
Reports not great but he did score more goals (12) for a struggling Queens side than any Morton player last year, and that's with only 18 starts so happy to see what Dougie can do with him.
Hopefully a better forward to follow..
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When Dougie signed Grimshaw, he spoke about trying to bring that kind of quality player to the club. Looks to me like he is getting rid of anyone who doesn't cut it and will then replace with quality additions.
The MCT mission statement about quality of quantity might actually happen now!
All for Dougie being ruthless and excited to see what we do next.
With Garrity back and Miller signing, we still have 18 bodies for Sat so no immediate rush for new players but I think we will add at least 2/3 over the next few weeks.
Squad for next Season
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Once he got up to speed, I thought he was very good for us and was sorry to see him go.
Don't think we need him unless someone is leaving or we are deploying Blues as a permanent RB.