mortonjag 2008-01-13 16:14:39
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 13 2008, 04:07 PM) [snapback]381854[/snapback]
Was it because they knew they had underestimated the strength of the league and overestimated the quality of the summer signings . Cue some ackward questions , and vague answers .

Don't be a silly Billy-Mr Rae knows what he's doing-just have faith-the Jag's been very busy of late but will definitely be at the rally this year to kiss Shoogly's hallowed arse! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-16 13:14:28 Thanks to all who expressed concern at my absence-I've enjoyed the wee break, and my Mum's now home from hospital and enjoying her new kitchen. Also thanks to Tontastic and the others who recommended Howdens-the units all came from the Cappielow depot, and the quality and price are excellent.

Now to serious matters---


Is this new director about to bankroll a thrust for the SPL? Is Shoogly going soft in the head? Something doesn't quite fit here-I'm bemused.

What's the script folks? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-16 13:14:55 Thanks to all who expressed concern at my absence-I've enjoyed the wee break, and my Mum's now home from hospital and enjoying her new kitchen. Also thanks to Tontastic and the others who recommended Howdens-the units all came from the Cappielow depot, and the quality and price are excellent.

Now to serious matters---


Is this new director about to bankroll a thrust for the SPL? Is Shoogly going soft in the head? Something doesn't quite fit here-I'm bemused.

What's the script folks? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-16 13:24:57
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 16 2008, 01:18 PM) [snapback]383340[/snapback]
glad to hear about your mum smile.gif

dont know much about the new director but for me the serious matter is your mums new kitchen! been on the edge of my seat for weeks waiting to find out how good it is.

TY-I'm scared folk will laugh at me but I'll be back down next week and I'll try to post a wee fotie! wink.gif

mortonjag 2008-01-16 14:46:43
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 16 2008, 01:53 PM) [snapback]383370[/snapback]
General Nonsense with this shoite! tongue.gif

Stick yer chanter up yer kilt ya cheeky wee brat!
mortonjag 2008-01-16 15:37:26
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jan 16 2008, 06:42 AM) [snapback]383207[/snapback]
Been saying that for months.

McInally's handling of the player has been baffling, considering his comments in the past regarding his confidence and how highly he rates him.

I can't think of one player who has come to us and fulfilled his potential with a previous club. Jamie Stevenson was dynamite at Alloa. It's taken Kevin Finlayson two seasons to get back to the kind of player he was with Stranraer. Even McGuffie has come straight from the SPL and not set the heather alight. I keep asking myself why Chris Millar's f***ed off to a decent manager, and I imagine Jimbo won't be far behind. Spoonsy's a cracking player, but deserves a huge managerial kick up the arse, and he'll only get that when JM goes IMO.
mortonjag 2008-01-16 15:46:48
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jan 16 2008, 03:38 PM) [snapback]383414[/snapback]
Seriously unhappy about this, in the ten minutes or so he got at the end of games he's looked as if he would do well if he got a proper chance, yet he was forced to warm the bench while some waster gets a full 90 minutes week in week out regardless of how little work he does.

Templeman was never given a fair chance at Cappielow, McInally's treatment of him was disgraceful.

A fool and his money are easily parted Mr Rae-thankfully for Sanny he's still young enough to make something of his career with a manager who knows how to capitalise on the assets in a squad. Millar and Templeman are the tip of an iceberg of discontent, and it's JM who should be on the P45 bus IMO.
mortonjag 2008-01-16 15:50:29
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jan 16 2008, 03:46 PM) [snapback]383426[/snapback]
Derek McInnes is the most rookie manager in Britain.

How you thinking he's decent?

He was 'managing' the Ton on the pitch from an early age Donga-he's got what it takes-guaranteed.
mortonjag 2008-01-16 15:54:01
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jan 16 2008, 03:51 PM) [snapback]383433[/snapback]
Your time away on the Tarot Card and Crystal Ball Beginners courses is yielding excellent results already, Mr Jag. smile.gif

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Time will tell, but knowing McInnes as I do I'd have him at Scapa in place of JM tomorrow, and remember the St. Johnstone board ain't mugs!
mortonjag 2008-01-16 16:07:20
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Jan 16 2008, 03:56 PM) [snapback]383440[/snapback]
Yep. I'd give it to McAlister as he seems to be one of the most influential players.

I don't see anything in Jimbo that big Greacen hasn't got-both 100% guys who can lead by example,and that's about it. Give Barry Smith a few weeks to settle, and he'll walk into the job.
mortonjag 2008-01-16 16:24:18
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 16 2008, 04:20 PM) [snapback]383463[/snapback]
I have to admit i was not a big fan of Chris when he first came to Scappa, but after he returned from Brechin and put in a good pre season, he looked a lot better. He was looking a better player this season despite the fact that most of his appearances came from the bench. JM should have been playing him instead of Weatherston in the last few weeks.
Anyway all the best big man. Hope it works out for him. Maybe he will forge a good partnership with Bobby Linn now.

Aye it's kinda scary to think those two could be knocking them in against us next season Weegie! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-16 16:27:56
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 16 2008, 04:22 PM) [snapback]383469[/snapback]
footballing ability?

it would be pointless giving the captains armband so someone who is only here til april, thats not even the end of the season is it?

Disagree-every match is vital right now-Livingston was a debacle which no decent captain would have allowed-a total cop out, and we're NEVER going to get any motivation from JM on match days.
mortonjag 2008-01-17 09:18:09 We shouldn't be too critical 'til January 31st-it's never too late to learn, and McGuffie and Smith coming at least indicates a willingness at long last to bring in experience.

On the down side I have a horrible feeling that the current exodus of players confirms that all is not well in the dressing room.
mortonjag 2008-01-17 09:24:14 Sanny--- all the best-you were one of the most entertaining and undervalued players at Scapa, but let's face it, JM couldn't manage a piss up in a brewery so what chance did you have with him and the Sugar Daddy! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-17 09:39:52 It's far too easy to highlight Sanny's bad points and he has plenty, but the fact is that he's a superb link player with an instinctive ability to hold the ball up and release it at the right time. That was NEVER used properly by JM-I believe Ian Russell and Chris could have become a potent partnership, but an unfit and off form Spoonsy (whom I rate highly as a player) has been flavour of the month with our managerial genius.
mortonjag 2008-01-17 09:51:21 Many happy returns of the day young man-you're now only twenty years away from the decade of wisdom! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-17 13:32:53 It seems that Shoogly and his lapdog have finally decided to bring in some experience. Their blatant failure to address the issue previously has only cost us two or three seasons of progress, and since they are basically good chaps I suppose we must forgive their little peccadillos.

That said, I wish you lot would stop the 'Well Done' stuff. If doing the obvious too late and in too little measure turns you on so much, that's a sad reflection on the lack of excitement at Scapa of late! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-17 13:44:41
QUOTE(suda @ Jan 17 2008, 01:36 PM) [snapback]384095[/snapback]
I agree I'm most upset that Rae has been cutting his cloth to fit the situation. I think we should of had these higher paid players in from the start so we could be struggling and have to get rid of them now

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Mince- my good chap-haven't you noticed our crowds are DOWN and you claim we're bringing in higher paid players to suit the situation.

No Sir, the truth is that having steadfastly and stubbornly refused to bring in experience which needn't have cost that much and could have seen us in the SPL by now, it's finally dawned on our hallowed chairman that JM ain't Matt Busby.
mortonjag 2008-01-17 13:57:57
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jan 17 2008, 01:51 PM) [snapback]384103[/snapback]
We are now signing experienced players with SPL quality, guys who WILL take us on to the next level.

Are you saying we should have just signed whatever experienced players were available 2/3 years ago just to appease the fans?
How do you know that we haven't been making efforts to sign players like these but only now are they becoming available?

Any excuse for a moan with you! Feck off back to your DIY and give us all piece.

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I'm not moaning-I'm pleased that the penny has finally dropped-maybe we'll get an experienced manager next-then we could really start motoring.
mortonjag 2008-01-17 14:34:53
QUOTE(irvineTON @ Jan 17 2008, 02:12 PM) [snapback]384115[/snapback]
No one mentioned anything about Greacen, Harding, Linn etc. blink.gif But slaughtering them on a regular basis really helps matters eh?!! mad.gif

The fact is, that Templeman is a far better footballer than any of the others mentioned!! Yet got the same (if not more) abuse as the players mentioned above. For anyone to state that the abuse doesn't affect players (and I include the others in your post) is ludicrous!! Of course it does.

I remember speaking to Paul Walker when he was with us & he stated a large chunk of the Morton support were c***s and affected the younger players on a regular basis, as they were s*** scared to make a mistake for the thought of getting an almighty slating. That cannot be right?

Correct-it can't be easy to be doing your job to the best of your ability only to be regularly slagged off by eejits who couldn't hit a barn door from two yards with a beachball.

Anybody with half a brain can see that Sanny's assets outweigh his deficiencies, and our loss is East Fife's gain.
mortonjag 2008-01-17 14:38:19
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jan 17 2008, 02:29 PM) [snapback]384116[/snapback]
I wish you would never have came back to the board - Things were actually positive for a day or 2 laugh.gif

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I AM being positive-positively delighted that reality has dawned. I'm surely allowed to be positively disgusted that it took so long! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-17 14:42:39
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jan 17 2008, 02:38 PM) [snapback]384119[/snapback]
OR
[codebox]Look at me everyone , I'm back on-line and want some attention"[/codebox]

Hello my little angel-sorry to have upset you so early in the year. Are you still taking the pills?
mortonjag 2008-01-17 16:14:06
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jan 17 2008, 03:22 PM) [snapback]384153[/snapback]
So, when will it dawn on you that DR is not Abramovich?

I've known that for ages RH if you're talking money, but he still behaves like a tinpot dictator-n'est ce pas?
mortonjag 2008-01-17 16:24:17 What pleases me more than anything is that (I hope) we now have more competition for places. I'm not that worried about formations as long as the guys are giving 100% for 90 minutes every week. It's time Jim started to think more in terms of a squad-we were winning most of the time last year so he got off with not changing things around even when some players' form dropped badly, but this season's very different. Kevin Finlayson, for example, should definitely start on current form, despite being out in the cold for most of last term, whereas Spoonsy looks like he needs a wee rest.
mortonjag 2008-01-17 16:38:13
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Jan 17 2008, 04:08 PM) [snapback]384176[/snapback]
MortonJag??? Who cares wacko.gif

The Monkey cares, and it's Mortonjag if you please.

Any more questions? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-17 20:32:43
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Jan 17 2008, 04:55 PM) [snapback]384192[/snapback]
Are we on to a win on Saturday?

Spirits are high-the Monkey predicts a comfortable win with goals from Huffy and Leafy. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-17 20:55:07 Craig Thomson's up to more mischief??? mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-17 21:32:28
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jan 17 2008, 09:05 PM) [snapback]384320[/snapback]
Is he Alan Jenkins' agent?

Probably, though he claims to be a qualified liar lawyer.
mortonjag 2008-01-17 21:46:13
QUOTE(Toby @ Jan 17 2008, 09:38 PM) [snapback]384362[/snapback]
As a team progresses up the divisions it evolves. Certain players that did a decent job at one level aren't necessarily good enough for the next and are booted. unfortunately it's the way of the world and football's a cut throat business. the same thing happened at Gretna and Livingston as they progressed up the leagues. hopefully, as our progress is taking longer than Gretna's did and looking like it will take longer than Livingston's did we'll be in better shape to compete in the Spl if the club evolves slower.

In short, he wasn't good enough to cut it in the First Division, get over it.

Statements like that have a habit of coming back to haunt-IMO Sanny's talents were wasted by a club which on the Livvi showing wasn't good enough to cut it in the first division. Hopefully things are about to improve.
mortonjag 2008-01-17 21:54:38
QUOTE(The Bewilderedbeast @ Jan 17 2008, 09:49 PM) [snapback]384374[/snapback]
Are they not the same thing?

Of the Pishley variety-undoubtedly! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-17 22:07:02
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 17 2008, 09:56 PM) [snapback]384383[/snapback]
i like the post match patter upto about 10 pm. i also obviously like the signings and rumours carry on. but really - does anyone log in and read all the " i think this and u think that" keech day after day? it's as much use as getting a patronising reply from tom mcb. some people think this i think that blah blah fukn blah.

boring

there's some funny f***ers on here mind smile.gif

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Poor wee soul-you could always watch Eastenders or play yourself at noughts and crosses if you're so bored-did you just happen to log on by mistake?

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mortonjag 2008-01-17 22:11:57
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 17 2008, 10:03 PM) [snapback]384391[/snapback]
He might have signed the contract tonight like you said but he agreed to it this morning, the delay was because Dougie's suit was in the Dry Cleaners and would not be ready for collection until after 6pm.
You know DDF always got to look his best for the snappers. laugh.gif

Are we finally consigning him to the crocodiles?
mortonjag 2008-01-17 22:18:31
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 17 2008, 10:14 PM) [snapback]384407[/snapback]
Shouldn't we have made moves to strengthen this time last season , picking up pre contract agreements for the summer .
The influx of Gretna players would seem to be us taking advantage of someones misfortune . I don't have a problem with that .
I still believe we wasted money on some of those we brought in and some we kept on .
Now we have a team that picks itself s lets see if the manager is up to the task .

Don't you mean 'getting it right up that muddle headed eejit Mileson who f*cked our promotion chances two seasons ago. He saw himself as a budding local worthy and has proved to be the Village Idiot.
mortonjag 2008-01-17 22:31:42
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 17 2008, 10:23 PM) [snapback]384423[/snapback]
DDFR was busy dusting down his microphone .

when one of the May Hughes dancers crept up behind him.....
mortonjag 2008-01-17 22:45:53
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 17 2008, 10:31 PM) [snapback]384435[/snapback]
??? really pish reply there morton jag. i was just saying that there is so much flaps posted on here. your the guy with 12,000 posts on here ffs! all the best to u but i suspect u use posts as a proxy as to how many women u have screwed.
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I don't screw poxy women, I'll have you know-but you're correct of course-there are far too many small minds polluting our little rag those days-thank goodness for folks like you and me! wink.gif

Monkey and I are just off to bed, so we'll bid you goodnight and pleasant dreams. sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-18 07:40:14
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Jan 18 2008, 06:40 AM) [snapback]384548[/snapback]
Pot, Kettle, Black ?

GTF Cretin rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-18 07:42:43
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 18 2008, 06:50 AM) [snapback]384549[/snapback]
so true! and he's been taking me with him lately sad.gif tongue.gif

Weegie is a funny man-too many serious folk on here! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-18 07:50:13
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jan 17 2008, 10:55 PM) [snapback]384455[/snapback]
Will The Darroch be graced with the Monkey and his master's presence on Saturday Night unsure.gif

Sadly no, though he sends best wishes to all. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-18 07:52:45
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 18 2008, 07:46 AM) [snapback]384557[/snapback]
funniest guy on here, despite him being confused with his sexuality tongue.gif

Really- he told me only yesterday that he'd finally found sexual peace under a tree in his back garden. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-18 09:48:22 I've been off the forum for a couple of months, and I now find the pages are taking far longer to load-nothing to do with my browser-any explanation?
mortonjag 2008-01-18 09:53:34 Thanks gents-no it's nothing to do with my senility I assure you-I thought it might be my pishing filter but I switched that off and no difference.I've also tried firefox and explorer and still the same-is this an evil conspiracy?
mortonjag 2008-01-18 10:18:27
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 18 2008, 10:07 AM) [snapback]384608[/snapback]
Is that a new name for a colostomy bag? tongue.gif

No Weegie it's just a wee seive!
mortonjag 2008-01-18 10:47:50
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jan 18 2008, 10:33 AM) [snapback]384619[/snapback]
you will be really lucky to get a denist now if you arent registered with one, my daughter who is 6 and petrified of the dentist wasnt registered last year and the butcher at orangefield (galt) charged me 30 quid for an appointment for her, she sat in the chair for about 21 seconds then absolutely shiat herself and ran out the door! asked him for the 30 quid back and he told me no.

your best bet would be to call the health centre 724477 and they will more than likely see you today or send you out to a place at burns road, failing that the dental hospital in glasgow will see you 0141 211 9600.

good luck

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Just shows you shouldn't go to any old butcher-it's taken me ages to find one who makes a decent haggis, and you don't need an appointment. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-18 10:56:07 Everybody seems so wrapped up in transfer speculation that we seem to have forgotten!


We played well at Palmerston-the Monkey predicts a 2-0 victory with goals from Leafy and Huffy.
mortonjag 2008-01-18 11:10:02
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 18 2008, 11:01 AM) [snapback]384631[/snapback]
I'm hoping for a victory and that we have at least one debut player with Chris Miller filling the wide right slot for the suspended Finlayson.

If I knew who Huffy was, I could comment on whether he might score. If its Weatherson, you could be right given its his old club.

Those accountants and their lack of poetic empathy! wink.gif

HUFFY MCGUFFIE!
mortonjag 2008-01-18 11:12:12
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 18 2008, 11:05 AM) [snapback]384638[/snapback]
We Have A Game Tomorrow!

Excellent what is it? British bulldog, rounders. Tell me. Can i get a game?

Shove halfpenny, but Shoogly says he's skint.
mortonjag 2008-01-18 11:17:40
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jan 18 2008, 11:13 AM) [snapback]384646[/snapback]
i swear that guy galt gets a kick out of other peoples suffering! mad.gif

Is he a friend of Mr Rae?
mortonjag 2008-01-18 11:25:40
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 18 2008, 11:19 AM) [snapback]384650[/snapback]
Dear Doctor

I thought you meant Weatherson because you think he's in a huff over recent critcism.

I think I was happier when you were fitting kitchens!!

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I'm sure everybody was!
mortonjag 2008-01-18 13:32:50
QUOTE(centralTON @ Jan 18 2008, 12:13 PM) [snapback]384680[/snapback]
Yeh, but its written on papyrus. wink.gif

...by Shoogly's Mummy?
mortonjag 2008-01-18 13:37:35
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 18 2008, 12:54 PM) [snapback]384701[/snapback]
3-0 Russell, McGuffie and Stevenson.
DDFR comes onto the park before the game to make one of his legendary speeches and a gust of wind blows him away to Oz, where he sets up a sweetie factory and the munchkins all have terrible tooth decay.

......and nasty Newton, the Sydney butcher doubles his life's income in six months.
mortonjag 2008-01-18 13:44:12 So Jenkins wants to come-great-but wait-Gretna want MUNNY-well Mr Rae the ball's in your court it would seem-any chance you've learned a lesson from your previous blunders, or are we about to be gazumped by Hamilton? mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-18 13:47:40
QUOTE(El Duderino @ Jan 18 2008, 01:38 PM) [snapback]384717[/snapback]
I sphinx so...

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mortonjag 2008-01-18 15:16:57 Stu always gets mugged by the barging bullying centre forwards of which Doctor Deuchar is a classical example. Don't know why-he's no weakling-maybe just too clean a player! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-18 15:23:44
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jan 18 2008, 01:55 PM) [snapback]384730[/snapback]
If you read the Telegraph report, it's more likely that Jenkins wants money from Gretna you negative t***. mad.gif

Munny is wanted-correct? Over to Shoogly to seal the bargain-after all he's an astute businessman! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-18 15:26:44
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jan 18 2008, 03:01 PM) [snapback]384761[/snapback]
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Can you do me a favour Suda? Please dont quote the negative tool in your posts as the forum is so much better with this (below):-

You have chosen to ignore all posts from: mortonjag.

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Cheers mate! tongue.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif Real Hoops-the guy who pops all his bills in the bin,and still believes in Santa Claus! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-18 15:29:39
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jan 18 2008, 03:24 PM) [snapback]384771[/snapback]
That game was in October. We beat St. Johnstone 1-0 towards the end of the season with Dougie Johnstone getting the goal. I'm pretty sure I remember that being considered the day we ended St. Johnstone's chances.

If I re-call that was an absolute nail biter of a game with both sides giving 110% for ninety minutes and we came out tops-I remember the great feeling of joy and relief when the final whistle went.
mortonjag 2008-01-18 15:49:26
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jan 18 2008, 03:42 PM) [snapback]384785[/snapback]
if the appointment itself was for me i wouldn't have had a grievance paying the 30 quid, but a 6 year old child, thats bang out of order! maybe he should set up a chair in Mr Binnie the butchers back shop, they could half the rent/rates etc - close to all public transport links as well - then he wouldn't need to charge kids 30 quid and people could also see that he truly is a butcher.....................

As if he wouldn't get enough off the nhs for treating the kid anyway! and obviously he had a spare appointment anyway if he could fit my daughter in that day - just total greed!

anyone biting???........................... laugh.gif

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Most dentists are greedy b*****ds, but blame years of NHS piecework-GP's have rapidly caught up since Kenneth Clarke f***ed up the system in 1990. I've been an advocate of a salaried service for years, but it's more than ever a case of money for items of service-do you imagine all those friendly wee reminder letters for check ups are meant to make you healthier? mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-18 16:10:50
QUOTE(Loveless @ Jan 18 2008, 04:08 PM) [snapback]384803[/snapback]
You'll only need this type of surgical removal in certain situations, usually the tooth will come out in one piece...

...frequently an outsider spread thickly with peanut butter?
mortonjag 2008-01-19 11:40:22
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Jan 18 2008, 07:38 PM) [snapback]384983[/snapback]
Forgive me MJ, but the monkey seems to have over-indulged over the festive period..? unsure.gif

Either that or you have new piccy and it hasn't updated yet tongue.gif

Aha-this is a picture of my simian sidekick and his wee pal 'Fing' about to set off to the football! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-19 11:43:55
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 18 2008, 08:14 PM) [snapback]385014[/snapback]
Has the monkey got an understudy

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His friend and partner in crime 'Fing'-we don't know what he/it is-somebody abandoned him/it at our doorstep and the Monkey took pity. He/it's been a Godsend though, as he/it goes out at night and burgles for us. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-19 11:46:52
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jan 18 2008, 08:25 PM) [snapback]385019[/snapback]
It's an age thing tongue.gif

Glad you understand! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-19 11:55:22
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jan 19 2008, 01:33 AM) [snapback]385248[/snapback]
Despite what I was told yesterday I now think this deal could be in serious doubt.

Jenkins has 18months of a contract to either fulfil, buyout or have bought out by a 3rd party.

This appears to be a major stumbliing block.

Didn't McLaren have a similar problem ??

But I was told Shoogly could have no influence in the deal! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-19 12:01:26
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jan 19 2008, 11:31 AM) [snapback]385376[/snapback]
Because Morton are under strict financial guidelines regarding recruitment.

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Euphemism of the season!!!


Shoogly's skint. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-19 12:03:55
QUOTE(Tooth & Nail @ Jan 19 2008, 11:58 AM) [snapback]385397[/snapback]
Just been listening to Jim McInally on the radio and the deal seems to be tied up, with both Morton and Alan Jenkins having shaken hands, Alan Jenkins just has to tie a few things up with Gretna now.

Jani Sturm and hope spring to mind.
mortonjag 2008-01-19 12:09:02
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jan 18 2008, 07:23 PM) [snapback]384977[/snapback]
If you're ever down, try McAsksie's in Wemyss Bay. Won several awards for their meat! ohmy.gif

TY-might just do that for Mr Burns' birthday next week.
mortonjag 2008-01-19 12:11:57 Fourteen already-how time flies! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-19 12:15:39 21 on the day Morton humped Q. of S. 2-0 and Weegie admitted he lied about those keys! Congratulations! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-19 12:20:01
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 19 2008, 12:18 PM) [snapback]385412[/snapback]
What's your fascination with the keys MJ unsure.gif

I'm just miffed that you're making me out to be a liar-you definitely said 'sexual peace' and I had both hearing aids in!
mortonjag 2008-01-19 12:23:33 Jimbo's a favourite of mine but until recently he went through a patch when he was pretty useless. Form comes and goes for all players. Managers, on the other hand, tend to be good or otherwise from one week to the next! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-19 13:16:53
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 19 2008, 12:33 PM) [snapback]385426[/snapback]
No, no, no MJ, not a liar. ohmy.gif Fabricator of the truth maybe tongue.gif Anyway have you checked the batteries wink.gif

Profuse apologies Weegie, the Monkey has confessed he stole them for his electric toothbrush.
mortonjag 2008-01-19 13:25:17
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jan 19 2008, 12:57 PM) [snapback]385439[/snapback]
The finances in all of this are easily sorted but require an upfront signing on fee from Morton to get over the hurdle.

My understanding is that Gretna do NOT want substantial money for Jenkins, they are on the brink of a world of hurt financially and just want their wage bill cleared - that is not the stumbling block.

The player does not want to take a cut in wages, and Morton have a wage structure to think about. Moving the deal forward requires either a basic wage of £500 over two years, and a signing on fee of £25,000, or £600 per week and a £15,000 signing on fee. This keeps the player whole to his current money for the remainder of his current contract, plus six months extra. It also means Morton can remain working within their wage constraints. I'm confident a deal will be struck but it looks like it might mean Dougie dipping into his coffers again.

The utilisation of Bosmans mean that Morton need to get used to inflated signing on fees, but this one is a no brainer to me. A player of Jenkins calibre will start be worth £10-£15k in two years time. We effectively get him for Cappielow wages, but with an upfront payment which we later recoup.

TonInDublin

Confirming what I've already been slated for suggesting-if Shoogly wants him enough, he should go out and get him. Jenkins is the sort of influence we desperately need right now (and have needed for several seasons), but Rae still gives the impression that he deals in players as if he were looking for discounted sugar for his boilers. sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-20 13:40:33 I've been saying for three seasons we should punt the manager, and it's no comfort that the 80% who had total confidence in his ability have finally opened their eyes to his ineptitude, but there's only one man to blame for the current fiasco at Cappielow IMO and he's blissfully unaware that he's now destroying the club he claims to love as he churns out his stilted weekly prattle of 'Chairman's Notes', undoubtedly believing we hang on his every word.

'Don't you think those boys deserve the chance to take us forward', he asked, but he wasn't asking! He was, as usual, telling.

Rae has proved to be a clueless buffoon when it comes to running a football club, but nobody appears to have the balls to stand up to him. He released big Sanny, Midge, and others with the usual 'Nice Mr Rae' comments, when the truth is that he gives ne'er a f*ck. Stop pleasing the Shooglemeister and it's the kiss of death.

JM's getting all the flak right now, while Rae sits on his aged arse, comfortable in the knowledge that he can punt the manager at will, and deflect attention from himself, but he's the stubborn old goat who wouldn't let JM sign players in the summer during his protracted love affair with Paul McGowan. A club just promoted after struggling over the line, and we merely got Iain Russell and young Gardyne at the eleventh hour!!!

Who's the self satisfied clot who happily excludes the fans from information and news, but lectures to them in his 'Shoogly Peg' notes about not supporting the team vocally enough?

Well Mr Rae, you can flash those cheesy silent assassin wallies at us 'til you're blue in the face, and make all the excuses you like, but your crowds are relentlessly dwindling, and that Sir, is ultimately down to one man.

One final thought-where else are you going to get a manager who will have the patience of JM when you finally and inevitably punt him?

So here's my message to you. It's NEVER too late to admit you've been wrong-get to f*ck out of the dressing room, and let somebody else run the bloody club properly for you. For that you would receive genuine respect.
mortonjag 2008-01-20 13:56:47
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 19 2008, 01:28 PM) [snapback]385450[/snapback]
Just because it uses batteries and buzzes does not make it an electric toothbrush tongue.gif

Shame on you Sir-the Monkey is pure in heart!
mortonjag 2008-01-20 14:02:43 I have an itchy Willie.
mortonjag 2008-01-20 15:00:28 I don't have any expectations other than that we'll survive this season, with dwindling crowds. That's a sad reflection of the current structure of a potentially fine football club, which has evolved into the plaything of an ageing autocrat. If anything, I expect that the majority may finally take that on board when it's too late.
mortonjag 2008-01-20 15:09:23 One thing's for sure, the Scottish Cup's Rae's last chance to get any real cash this season. If we win on Wednesday (and especially if we get a decent draw thereafter) Jim will probably be around for the time being. If we go out with a performance like yesterday's or that at Livvi, the Shooglemeister may well bin him.
mortonjag 2008-01-20 15:29:45 It's always the same when we play badly-single out a scapegoat, so this week's rogue is Leafy.

Players' player of the year with an unfashionable club, but still not good enough for some myopes on the terraces-give the boy a f*ckin' break, and come to think of it, give him the f*ckin' ball where he CAN use it. We still have talent in the squad-maybe some day somebody will learn how to utilise it.
mortonjag 2008-01-20 15:32:56
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jan 20 2008, 03:13 PM) [snapback]386474[/snapback]
Are we not at home to QoS? unsure.gif

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Indeed we are ---oh dear! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-20 15:42:40
QUOTE(Caltonfan @ Jan 20 2008, 03:33 PM) [snapback]386498[/snapback]
peter was better in defence than harding and greacen but at this level thats still not good enough, he should be dropped to the bench but unfortunately we dont have any other options up front after allowing templeman and linn to leave.

We still haven't tried big Stu as a striker-let's face it he can get onto a ball and has scored several good headers, not to mention two or three well taken goals including a screamer at Brechin.

Am I kiddin'?

Well kind of!!! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-20 16:02:17
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Jan 20 2008, 03:58 PM) [snapback]386513[/snapback]
The way we are playing it isn't going to happen on Wednesday either.

Jantorno (if thats how you spell it can't be bothered checking, way too hungover) is going to run amock and probably run so many circles round Smith he will hit the deck gasping for air.....but don't worry as the Big Doc is stroking the ball into the net for his 2nd and Gretna's 4th he will stop onroute (cause lets face it, our defence is still s***e and he would have time) to resucitate Smith.

Not sure whether to add a mad.gif or a laugh.gif to that

Football's a funny old game they say-if history's anything to go on, we'll probably play out of our skins, tan the Village Bumpkins 3-0, and all will be well with the world until Saturday! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-20 16:03:45
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 20 2008, 04:01 PM) [snapback]386515[/snapback]
I don't think it's the problem of players playing in different roles within the team. ALL teams play players in different roles. Just look at McGuffie's comments when he joined saying he was played in various roles but prefers CM for instance.
Where McInally seems to get it wrong is the balance of the team. Sometimes the balance looks completely wrong, and that's when mistakes are made.

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mortonjag 2008-01-20 16:05:54
QUOTE(tolmie perms r bak @ Jan 20 2008, 03:03 PM) [snapback]386458[/snapback]
MCINALLY = PINNOCHIO

Correct-ask Geppetto Rae.
mortonjag 2008-01-20 16:13:50
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Jan 20 2008, 04:10 PM) [snapback]386522[/snapback]
Yeh and the 4 Horsemen of the Apocalypse are providing the transport to the game too tongue.gif

That was supposed to be a secret!
mortonjag 2008-01-20 18:08:01
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jan 20 2008, 05:48 PM) [snapback]386641[/snapback]
Hail Hail, the Celts are Here!!

Is that any better Scapa? Mibbes if the players actually showed they knew how to play football, then we'd have something to shout about. People who go on about the fans making the team lose are obviously so caught up in Doogie's every word. If you believe that pish, did you know the moon's made of cheese? It really is, honest. I bet you'd believe it if Doogie wrote it in his programme notes though!!

Spot on-WE are the ones who are paying the money-we are entitled to expect something in return, and every time the boys have really turned it on, we've got right behind them. It's a sad reflection of Rae's ego and delusions that he blames the fans for his own wee glory trip going off course.
mortonjag 2008-01-20 21:00:52
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jan 20 2008, 08:41 PM) [snapback]386799[/snapback]
I got an abcess in my tooth and it's killing me MortonJag. Should Dougie Rae be held accountable for making sweeties?

What's your real reason for hating him? Did he knick yer boyfriend off you in high school or something?

Do you know what an abscess is RSBH? Well I'll tell you. It's an encapsulated concentration of pus, and the only truly successful treatment is lancing or incision with removal of the putrefying mess.

Now if I could just find such a simple cure for the putrefying mess at GMFC, I'd sure apply it right now.

As for my hating the Shooglemeister-sure-I hate what he's doing to OUR club, but I don't hate the man. The monkey and I are loving creatures. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-20 21:08:38
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 20 2008, 07:05 PM) [snapback]386709[/snapback]
Agree with all that's said on this thread. Just one question though, and it's not a dig at anyone, will you all be there at the fans rally to say the same things to his face?? I certainly hope so because it's about time DDFR and JM got the message.

I will most certainly be there-missed last year's because of the premature arrival of a grandchild, and I fully intend to ask polite but probing questions, not that I expect anything back except 'Fudgy Wudgys'. The Monkey wants to come too, but he goes to bed early, and anyway, Shoogly's picture scares him to death. He calls him 'That bad man', though I've no idea where he got that from. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-20 21:17:17
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jan 20 2008, 08:47 PM) [snapback]386808[/snapback]
Even tho's he's been playing poorly I thought McLaughlin was still looking to get involved in the game. He wasn't hiding away and he covered infront of the defence well even if his distrobution was at it's recent level (fairly gash).

I wonder why guys like Scotty, McAllister or Finlayson don't leather guys like Weatherson, Stevenson or McGuffie at times. Why should they have to do twice the work because their team mates are hiding away from games?

Scott McLaughlin seems to have had his football coached OUT of him at Cappielow. When he came at first, I really rated the boy, but he's turned into a boring sideways or backwards passing machine of late. Yesterday was different-the boy got pissed off with the rest of them, and made a couple of really incisive runs-just a pity he didn't finish one off with a cracking goal. Credit where due.
mortonjag 2008-01-20 21:22:09
QUOTE(Deego @ Jan 20 2008, 09:16 PM) [snapback]386846[/snapback]
I don't think the reason for no rally in December was anything to do with poor results, s***e transfers or whatever. I'd imagine it will go ahead as long as no-one makes an arse of it again.
If you are there I demand you introduce yourself. Every week I'm looking about wondering who you are. How sad. blink.gif

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Do you think I'm going to arrive with a wee name badge sporting 'Mortonjag'? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-20 21:25:19 I have been alone with a Spice Girl in her bedroom!
mortonjag 2008-01-20 21:35:24
QUOTE(davidh1874 @ Jan 20 2008, 07:37 PM) [snapback]386744[/snapback]
From Inverclyde Now:-

POLICE Pursuit -- NUMEROUS police units, including a helicopter, were involved in the pursuit of a vehicle in the East End of Greenock this evening. Police confirmed an arrest had been made but could provide no further information on the nature of the incident.

Seems they apprehended a very tall man driving a very small car, and confiscated a Kalashnikov and table tennis bat.
mortonjag 2008-01-20 21:46:31
QUOTE(SkinTON @ Jan 20 2008, 09:41 PM) [snapback]386870[/snapback]
You should have a doctor to take at look at that. tongue.gif

TY, but it's disappeared! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-20 22:13:48
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 20 2008, 10:02 PM) [snapback]386884[/snapback]
The Doctor will tell him the same thing he told Sean the other day, it always itches on the run up, then falls off on your 40th birthday. wink.gif

'How are the mighty fallen'!


There again I've always had good reason to believe in the resurrection of the dead! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-20 22:22:24
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Jan 20 2008, 10:17 PM) [snapback]386896[/snapback]
No a dog collar tongue.gif

Ha-now there's an idea-I could come dressed up as Rev I.M. Jolly-Shoogly would be raging that somebody else got a wee shot at the preaching, but he surely wouldn't dare to chuck out a man of the cloth, especially when he saw him with a poke of Buchanans' toffees sticking out his back pocket!
mortonjag 2008-01-21 07:13:06 Last season I said several times that JM would have been as well pulling names out of a hat and little seems to have changed. What matters on Wednesday more than the selection is that the players are up for this one. How do we achieve that?

Fraid I haven't a f*cking clue! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-21 07:34:52
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jan 21 2008, 02:59 AM) [snapback]386978[/snapback]
Indeed. If we set the player that were at our disposal at the start of the season out in the right positions and formations, we would be comfortably in midtable. If we had added a guy like...erm, McFarlane...as well as a full back or two, we would be capable of pushing for top four, at least. I have no problem with any of our usual eleven, apart from one. All of those 10 have the ability to compete in this league with the right guidance.

I agree entirely, and re. your McFarlane comments it breaks my heart that many fans have been screaming for two or three experienced motivating players for THREE SEASONS, yet the powers that unfortunately be, have stubbornly indulged their own little fantasy football fads

The villain of the piece was willing to shell out 100k on wee Gowsa!!!!!

I'm not saying Gowsa is a bad player, but I ask you-100k on another wean when our lack of experience had already cost us two seasons-THAT WAS CRIMINAL BEHAVIOUR IMO.

So here we are, yet again with the transfer deadline looming-yet again with rumours, and rumours of rumours, and yet again with very little cheer. Sure we've got an unfit Smith short term, and I've high hopes he'll prove a longer term asset, and McGuffie's here, but he's a quiet lad. You might say we've strengthened the squad, but Linn and Sanny have gone, and Deano's out on loan, and--FFS--- we STILL only have one registered goalkeeper.

Time and patience are rapidly running out for Mr Rae-he CAN'T have it both ways-either he runs the club successfully by himself or he has to hand over the reins, and if that also means inward investment he MUST take that on board. After all a club without fans is dead.

Ask Mr Mileson! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-21 07:44:51
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Jan 21 2008, 06:24 AM) [snapback]386988[/snapback]
What chance does the man have when Harding is punting 70 yard passes to him everytime he gets the ball, the guy's a terrible footballer.

Harding and Russell are, IMHO, both good footballers!
mortonjag 2008-01-21 08:59:09 So David McGregor's to be the next whipping boy!!!

That's very unfair-he's played for us through thick and thin, struggling back after nasty injuries, and so far as I'm concerned he's one of the true professionals in our squad.

I DON'T think he's a natural left back or central defender, and obviously with the competition, he struggles to get a midfield position. Whether he's first division standard or not has yet to be proven, but he's just another victim of JM's 'mix and match' charade, and in no way does he alone deserve the blame for our poor defensive record.
mortonjag 2008-01-21 09:02:42
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Jan 21 2008, 12:17 AM) [snapback]386950[/snapback]
I have just returned from a snowboarding holiday in Italy where I took a bad fall and broke my Coccyx!

Commiserations my old friend. By the way, we just say 'c*ck' up here!
mortonjag 2008-01-21 09:20:40 'International spicy food day'.


No kiddin'!!!


What will they think of next? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-21 09:50:39
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 21 2008, 09:42 AM) [snapback]387019[/snapback]
International Toilet Roll in the Fridge Day would be the obvious one!

Used or otherwise?
mortonjag 2008-01-21 09:56:03
QUOTE(franco @ Jan 21 2008, 09:46 AM) [snapback]387021[/snapback]

...unconfirmed reports suggest that the driver was a thirteen year old joyrider from Paisley.

The cost to the taxpayer has yet to be computed, but is estimated to run into many thousands of pounds. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-21 10:00:40
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jan 21 2008, 09:47 AM) [snapback]387022[/snapback]
Yes and then he makes further mistakes by letting go one of the few players that can cope well with the first division and has arguably been our player of the season so far - Chris Millar. All this pish about sending his agent a note is ludicrous - what next? Maybe he sends his young orphan servant he took in to deliver the next note and he never comes back as he's kidnapped en route by the local gangmaster. Ever heard of the phone or emails Dougie?

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What is it they say about total power and corruption? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-21 10:14:16 I just had a wee glance at our squad listing on the 'Official' web site. As always, it's way out of date, but even allowing for changes in personnel, we apparently have TWO forwards in the whole squad, and one of them doesn't even get a regular game.

The line up of Adamson, Stevenson, Caven, McGraw and Wilson comes to mind.

Why do I want to cry? sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-21 10:19:11
QUOTE(El gofer @ Jan 21 2008, 10:07 AM) [snapback]387029[/snapback]
From a reliable source. Jenkins aint coming. Money involved and Gretna. Something about an 18 month contract.

Hey ho! 10 days to go.....

Maybe the lad just wants to be certain of playing in the first division next season.
mortonjag 2008-01-21 10:41:12
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 21 2008, 10:25 AM) [snapback]387036[/snapback]
Wrong. Benny Boy's disliked McGregor as a defender for as long as I remember. I only know this as I completely agree with him - McGregor is an absolutely useless centre half. He get's turned inside out by absolutely everyone. I think he's potentially a decent midfielder although we'll probably never know.

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So he can't get a place in midfield, he's a 'useless' centre half, he's not the quickest, and he's right footed.

Mr McInally, or should that be McInrae, however, has had him as an 'ever present' since he returned from injury!

For what it's worth I agree with your sentiments about the boy's ability, but blaming him for an 'implosion' in our defence is laughable, and in any case it might be better pointing fingers at others who are NOT apparently pulling their weight at the moment.
mortonjag 2008-01-21 10:46:02
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jan 21 2008, 10:42 AM) [snapback]387047[/snapback]
I've had sex with more girls than most of my close friends have put together.

Try using underarm deodorant!
mortonjag 2008-01-21 11:00:41
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jan 21 2008, 10:45 AM) [snapback]387049[/snapback]
You have no friends and feel lonely?
Yer cutting onions?
Someone's playing "Gloomy Sunday" by Billie Holliday?
You can't remember if Dick van Dyke was in Chitty Chitty Bang Bang or Merry Poppins and it's really annoying you?

Don't worry. He's in both.

Hmm-I wonder if that expression's PC those days, not that it's something I really fancy doing.
mortonjag 2008-01-21 11:13:02
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jan 21 2008, 11:02 AM) [snapback]387069[/snapback]
Dr Deuchar owns Stewart Greacen, look at the number of goals he's scored against him for both EF and Gretna!
Gilbride is on loan at Stenhousemuir, Shields is apparently been released.

Well that makes good sense-why did we ever sign a full back in the first place-let's face it-like wingers, they don't exist in the JM book of football! mad.gif wacko.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-21 11:16:34 I am right handed but left eyed.
mortonjag 2008-01-21 11:19:48
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 21 2008, 11:15 AM) [snapback]387071[/snapback]
Here to please Mr Jag wink.gif

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Please come back!

In those days we had more crosses into the box in one match than we've had all season and I'm NOT joking.
mortonjag 2008-01-21 11:27:35
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 21 2008, 11:24 AM) [snapback]387078[/snapback]
Before my time I'm afraid but I did have the pleasure of Joe Cavens company on a pre season tour up North a few years ago, I think the Morton fans who met Joe in the Keith Social Club after the game will remember that night for ever.

Joe was one of the most underrated and best target men we ever had-without him McGraw would not have been nearly so prolific, and he knocked in a fair few himself.
mortonjag 2008-01-21 11:30:09
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 21 2008, 11:25 AM) [snapback]387079[/snapback]
I play bowls and have been to two county finals in the last four years.
Well it's interesting to me.

You're biased.
mortonjag 2008-01-21 11:33:45
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jan 21 2008, 11:29 AM) [snapback]387083[/snapback]
Def not Brockville, it does remind me of Firs Park, but when did E Stirling come in to existence as the photo was taken 64, 65.

If I'm not mistaken, that was the very season when they were merged with Clydebank.
mortonjag 2008-01-21 11:53:37 I have been cross questioned by Joe Beltrami. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-21 11:57:44
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Jan 21 2008, 11:52 AM) [snapback]387094[/snapback]
He (JM) has just signed his Granny on a 2 year deal. Apparently she zimmers down the left wing like no other winger. Apparently JM is quoted as saying "I told the fans I was going to sign some experience and believe me, my 92 year old Granny has nothing but experience under her belt" And the bonus is that he got her on a Bosman freebie and she only wants a couple of digestive biscuits and brew at half time as her appearance fee each week.

Not a bad signing by all accounts?

That's what JM claims, but the truth is that Shoogly has always had a thing for older women.
mortonjag 2008-01-21 12:09:48
QUOTE(craigeton @ Jan 21 2008, 11:19 AM) [snapback]387075[/snapback]
The point made on the players is absolute crap. The players we have here are as good if not better than any in this division. The management and coaching (or lack of) is the real issue here.
As an example , when we played Q.O.S. at Palmerston we went 1 down early on but we played football on the deck and passed the ball around, we not only won the game but it was enjoyable to watch.
On Saturday Mcinally had the players hoofing the ball up the park to nobody. The result being a doing and crap to watch into the bargain.
Unfortunately as Mcinally is Raes yes man I think he is here for as long as he wants to be.

I'd agree that most of our squad is technically up to first division standard. What we do lack seems to be an instinctive will to win-especially when the chips are now. JM's tactics and selections often border on the bizarre, but surely you can't blame, for example, the fiasco at Livingston, entirely on him. Even last season when we were winning most matches we repeatedly contrived to make things difficult for ourselves. The problem, IMO, lies as much in the players heads as their feet.
mortonjag 2008-01-21 13:25:23 At this stage we’re not talking about me putting money into the club.
mortonjag 2008-01-21 13:43:43
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jan 21 2008, 12:50 PM) [snapback]387141[/snapback]
We have, we've agreed terms but it's his release from Gretna that's the sticking point. If he doesn't come to Morton it won't be down to problems at our side.

It depends how you look at it. On the one hand you could say he's become too expensive-on the other we have a new director who apparently 'loves the Ton', and is worth some £70 million, but won't be injecting any cash at this stage.

I'm totally mystified as to the agenda-he's more Crawford than Papa's age, 'has known the Raes for many years', and is personally worth some ten times Golden Casket's annual turnover, yet he's only going to play 'Devil's advocate' with Shoogly.

FFS the old bod only has to log on here and he'll find 'Devil's advocates' aplenty!!! As I said before this doesn't add up at all.


MYSTIFIED!!! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-21 13:52:04
QUOTE(El gofer @ Jan 21 2008, 12:29 PM) [snapback]387118[/snapback]
I dont actually think he is Rae's yes man.
I think he is the one picking the team and is also the one organising training. The vast majority of players are his. The formation he puts out is his. The motivation side is his.

I obviously can see some criticisms of Rae's running of the club but at least he is looking to remedy this by bringing in Alisdair Donald to oversee the running of the club.
To say Rae is the real villain of the piece is taking a personal vendetta a bit too far though Mr Jag.

Rae is patently the villain of the piece, if for nothing else, for hanging on to his tame manager, and please (since you seem to know more than everybody else) explain exactly what 'overseeing' will mean.


Personal vendetta!!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-21 14:00:01 I'd bring Ian McColl back tomorrow, but he's only one of many. Even Gordon Chisholm showed on Saturday that he was able to get the best out of his players and make sensible tactical changes. Gus McPherson's a good manager, but he's with that HUGE club up the road! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-21 14:08:40
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 21 2008, 02:04 PM) [snapback]387194[/snapback]
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Kat Kit is a smelly sock? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-21 14:14:03
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jan 21 2008, 02:11 PM) [snapback]387200[/snapback]
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I actually think our support deserve a degree of credit here. We're on the back of a horrendous run and still the crowds are relatively constant.

I also guarantee we'll be the 12th man at Fir Park.

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Aye but will we outshout the fifty or so home fans? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-21 14:21:09 I once saw a fox running across the pitch at Cappielow, and have seen many dogs do the same-no Shoogly, not your wee dancing girls.
mortonjag 2008-01-21 14:33:08
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 21 2008, 02:26 PM) [snapback]387211[/snapback]
was talkin about this last night. provincial clubs like our should always have a mix of young and old.

Agreed-look at St Johnstone last season, and I reckon they'd have given the SPL a better shot than the now played out Villagers.
mortonjag 2008-01-21 14:38:17
QUOTE(franco @ Jan 21 2008, 02:32 PM) [snapback]387216[/snapback]
I am right handed but left footed. That's useful if, just on the off chance, you want to kick someone while shaking their hand.

That's an interesting combination franco-which is your dominant eye, (and I apologise in advance if you're registered blind, wear a prosthesis, or are Cyclopean) ?
mortonjag 2008-01-21 14:40:55
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 21 2008, 02:34 PM) [snapback]387218[/snapback]
what is this carry on about janne and marko? what would they now about the current state of play in the scottish first division? we dont HAVE to have ex players! dick campbell would do better than jim m - don't care what anyone says.

i'd like to see duffy or wee robertson but sure there's more if i could be arsed thinking at the mo

Bryan will be on with his laughing Smiley, but I have to agree with you!
mortonjag 2008-01-21 14:51:36
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 21 2008, 02:49 PM) [snapback]387226[/snapback]
he knows how to win a play - off for a start. that might come in handy

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mortonjag 2008-01-21 15:43:35
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Jan 21 2008, 03:19 PM) [snapback]387243[/snapback]
Anybody that suggests Dick Campbell is off their head. Why not check out what every single Partick fan has to say about his last spell at the club and the damage he did behind the scenes as well as being s*** on the park. Just ludicrous.

He has a record of at least some success with limited resources-oh and BTW just check out what 'every single' Ton fan is currently saying about JM. The point is not that Campbell would be the choice manager-simply that he could do better than JM!
mortonjag 2008-01-21 15:48:45
QUOTE(hoodless @ Jan 21 2008, 03:44 PM) [snapback]387250[/snapback]
as a "supporter" i'm afraid i'm not going to stand and watch that pish without voicing my opinion. I wasn't booing him like others when he tried to score from about 35 yards out, but when he started mouthing back i certainly let him know what i thought about him.

He has a wee tool and hopefully i won't need to watch him much longer.

I don't think the size of players' appendages should upset fans.
mortonjag 2008-01-21 15:55:19
QUOTE(franco @ Jan 21 2008, 03:08 PM) [snapback]387237[/snapback]
No it's ok, i'm from the Port.

I've got a dominant left eye, although due to shortsightedness 'dominant' sounds like a gross exagerration. Am i special, or is it just my kids that think that?

I've got 2 brothers, one of whom is right handed and right footed, the other is left handed and left footed although he plays golf (and possibly all racket sports) right handed. I guess these things ain't hereditary? or does the post man have a lot to answer for?



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They are hereditary, but not in a dominant way, so the Postie gets off the hook! I'm right handed and left eye dominant. I was right footed until at the age of nineteen I had orthopaedic surgery to both legs, resulting in them being in 'Stookie' for three months. I had to 're-learn' how to walk, kick, etc., and discovered I was equally good with my left and right foot, though my standard of football was still pretty average!
mortonjag 2008-01-21 16:07:56
QUOTE(El gofer @ Jan 21 2008, 03:52 PM) [snapback]387252[/snapback]
At what point have I even nearly suggested that i know more than anyone else?
I got the information about Donald from another thread on this site. Check it yourself.
I was merely pointing out that it is a positive move and surely since a number of people have been questioning Rae's hands on approach, you among them rather vehemently, he should at least be credited for this. By the way, I am not looking at this through rose tinted specs as I have been among those who are not too pleased with the way on which the club has been run previously. I am also starting to think that McInally has taken us as far as he can.

As regards the personal vendetta remark, I dont think its the first time something like that he been suggested. You must realise that by making reference to the teams owner in a negative way in the vast majority of your posts, so people are going to think along these lines.

If this is not the case then I stand corrected and henceforth offer my sincerest apologies.

I can't see an ounce of logic in that statement. For a start I don't even mention Mr Rae 'in the vast majority of my posts', though I consistently criticise him where relevant, in the same way as, for example, Colkitto criticises Wendy Alexander. Does that mean that HE has a personal vendetta against her?

Implicit in your comment is the notion that Shoogly does not deserve my criticism, or at least that my criticism is excessive, yet it seems that the majority of posters are coming around to my way of thinking. Maybe in another couple of months they too will have developed personal vendettas! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-21 16:11:26
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jan 21 2008, 04:00 PM) [snapback]387258[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-01-21 16:19:13
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Jan 21 2008, 04:05 PM) [snapback]387265[/snapback]
I'm right-handed and mostly right-footed, but I play snooker and pool left-handed smile.gif

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Guess we mustn't then ask what you use your right hand for!
mortonjag 2008-01-21 16:33:21
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jan 21 2008, 04:21 PM) [snapback]387281[/snapback]
That's exactly how I see it Scott, wonder if Dougie knows this, or maybe if he just wants to reduce the financial burden on himself and Golden Casket. I would be very surprised if he wasn't a substantial shareholder within a year.

....and therein lies a possible problem-his assets hugely exceed Mr Rae's, but will the latter ever allow him to become the majority shareholder within his lifetime?

There's no guarantee that he would be good for the club of course-caution is always the watchword in those situations, but he undoubtedly has the potential of a Mileson, and unlike Gretna, we are a viable proposition.
mortonjag 2008-01-21 16:38:19
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jan 21 2008, 04:24 PM) [snapback]387283[/snapback]
On Saturday while you lot were at Scappa I built a Fort in the living room using chairs, cushions, blankets and duvets.

It was a cracker.

Broke my heart when the kids wrecked it tongue.gif

Send them to Aunt Matilda's for a holiday!
mortonjag 2008-01-21 20:20:38
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 21 2008, 05:34 PM) [snapback]387322[/snapback]
pretty poor sad.gif

scottish football is a funny one cos there aint a lot of money to be made but there is no way we don't have the potential of ANY team outwith the main 4 cities in the land. hopefully we can move on with some help from this guy - financially or otherwise.

20 years outwith the top flight is way too long for a team from the 6th biggest conurbation in scotland

Absolutely, and something I've stated repeatedly, only to be shouted down by cries of derision from clowns with little ambition and no vision. Properly structured and managed we could have a nice little earner down at the Tail O' the Bank. In fact, had my good friend of the pony tail and brown fingers taken over here when Shoogly did, we'd probably be sitting above the Midden in the SPL right now. sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-21 20:27:27
QUOTE(El gofer @ Jan 21 2008, 04:36 PM) [snapback]387291[/snapback]
Again I think there is a difference between criticising and putting your bit in in all posts.
If you are going to have wee digs at my posts in a rather patronising way then I will do the same. Read the post again. I said that I have been critical of the way that Rae has run the club. I will acknowledge when he has done something positive and I think this is.

The last line of the highlighted part should have read "some people" not "so people". What do you not understand about it since you said it makes no sense?

...do you think I'm a bloody mind reader-that makes all the difference in the world-'SO people' suggests the perceived general response, while 'SOME people' means something entirely different, and BTW I didn't mean to sound patronising. huh.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-21 20:41:17
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jan 21 2008, 05:31 PM) [snapback]387320[/snapback]
Must be a sub-conscious thing then cause as El Gofer says it's rare that any of your posts escape without making some reference to Raemanov, Toothrotter, Sugar daddy, Fudgy Wudgies or Shoogly Woogly. rolleyes.gif

An example of your obsession is your joke about the May Hughes dancers as Dougies Dogs. I know you were making a joke but it's still a pretty despicable comment.

[Oh no, I've criticised the Jag, tin hat on]

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...and if you're going to criticise the Jag, get your facts right-of all your little nicknames listed above, the only one I claim as mine is 'Fudgy Wudgys'- (spelled correctly a la Golden Casket)!

Now I challenge you to back up your statement with a proper scientific analysis of a statistically significant random sample of my posts on both forums.

It so happens that at the moment, as during the closed season, Rae deserves to be the focal point of criticism. I will give credit when due and was one of the few who praised and backed his complaint about Craig Thomson-a matter about which I am still in communication with the SFA.

If you find my puerile little joke about the dancers so despicable, I'm surprised you don't permanently go about in your tin hat AND body armour! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-21 21:00:17
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jan 21 2008, 07:44 PM) [snapback]387444[/snapback]
Yuk! You're Back! rolleyes.gif

Correct madam-would you like my recipe for Keech Lorraine?
mortonjag 2008-01-21 21:03:58
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jan 21 2008, 07:09 PM) [snapback]387414[/snapback]
i've been told that i am a descendant of william kidd, but i am sceptical.

then again, he was a totally s***e pirate, so maybe it's possible.

any relation to an arse bandit?
mortonjag 2008-01-21 21:10:38 I 'lost' my car after the cup tie at Dundee this season-trudged around for ages, and was getting pretty desperate as my mobile and cards were in the glove compartment and I had about two quid on me! It was getting dark, and in desperation I went back to the Charlie Cooke lounge at Dens. Not only did they give me a free drink to warm me up, but a nice gentlemen then drove me around the area in his car until we found mine.

I was so bloody relieved that (most uncharacteristically) I shook his hand saying 'I could kiss you' at which he disappeared like snow off a dyke. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-21 21:16:45
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jan 21 2008, 08:54 PM) [snapback]387474[/snapback]
Why do I feel like I've escaped lightly? You're clearly mellowing cool.gif

A proper scientific analysis of your posts would most likely see you commited, I don't need that on my conscience tongue.gif

Reminds me of the old Woody Allen joke...

this guy goes to a psychiatrist and says, "Doc, uh, my brother's crazy; he thinks he's a chicken." And, uh, the doctor says, "Well, why don't you turn him in?" The guy says, "I would, but I need the eggs."

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Patient--'Doctor I keep dreaming my Willy's covered in crumbs'.

Psychiatrist--'You're f*cking crackers'.
mortonjag 2008-01-21 21:22:23
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jan 21 2008, 09:19 PM) [snapback]387508[/snapback]
That how it appears to me, and doubtless many others on this Board. mad.gif

A man sees what he wants to see and disregards the rest.
mortonjag 2008-01-21 21:36:18
QUOTE(tondaft @ Jan 21 2008, 09:21 PM) [snapback]387511[/snapback]
Totally agree mcgregor was amazing at firhill and is excellent every week

Don't get carried away-what Davie does well he does well, but at left back he's been skinned time after time leaving us vulnerable-just as Spoonsy was last season. The best performance I've seen at left back in recent times came from Dean Keenan, with Alex Walker putting in a couple of fair shifts. The problem seems to be that JM thinks he can build success from utility players-we don't have full backs or wingers at Cappielow it seems, and I'm told young Shields has been allowed to leave!!!


MADNESS.
mortonjag 2008-01-21 21:39:49
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jan 21 2008, 06:10 PM) [snapback]387358[/snapback]
The biggest criticism Jags fans had of Dick Campbell was that he never played players in their correct position.

He's just McInally with a bunnet and big teeth.

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I could swear I once saw Campbell jumping about like a flea with a bunnet and big teeth-JM hasn't quite reached that level yet!
mortonjag 2008-01-21 21:42:34
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jan 21 2008, 09:21 PM) [snapback]387514[/snapback]
I think I have some sort of Dr Dolittle type powers. In my house I have a dog, a hamster, fish, a wild mouse which I found trapped in a crisp packet (I plan to release him when the weather changes), two deer who regularly visit the back garden, a squirrel who raids the nutballs in the front garden, moles in the back garden and a few birds nesting in the eaves.

...gagged and bound I assume.
mortonjag 2008-01-21 21:45:39
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jan 21 2008, 09:19 PM) [snapback]387509[/snapback]
You should have sent the Monkey out to look for it tongue.gif

That was the problem Willow-he was at a Resident's Committee meeting that night. sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-21 22:03:15
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jan 21 2008, 09:46 PM) [snapback]387538[/snapback]
My boycott is not because the results are bad.

It's because Dougie will do feck all to remove that clown of a manager we have and even today he still shat out of sacking him mad.gif

Crowds falling is maybe the only way he'll do something about it.

I noticed the folk that have said they're going are Season Ticket holders and see no point in not going as they've already paid for the games.

I wonder if them same folk would still be going if they had to pay in for the rest of the season blink.gif

Most of us have watched the Ton through bad patches, but what's so bloody frustrating this time around is that we COULD be doing so much better, and aye Willow, it's getting a tad wearying.

My brother is even more intense about the Ton than me, but when I said to him after Saturday's game-'Still going to Motherwell then'?-he shrugged his shoulders and said in a very resigned way- 'I guess so'

It's got to the stage where half the time you feel as though you're going out of duty and loyalty rather than because you expect to be entertained, and if guys decide they've had enough, I fully understand.

For a man of his apparent commercial experience, the Chairman demonstrates inordinate naivety when it comes to putting/keeping bums on seats!!!
mortonjag 2008-01-21 22:07:43
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jan 21 2008, 09:59 PM) [snapback]387562[/snapback]
john robertson is a good shout. seems like the kinds that would tell dougie to get to f*** out of the dressing room, and kick under performing players arses

Aye Blue-but for that very reason he probably wouldn't even be interviewed-that's my biggest worry re JM's ultimate departure-where are we going to get the genius who can make the Chairman THINK he's in charge, but still run the ship to his own plan?
mortonjag 2008-01-21 22:11:49
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jan 21 2008, 09:52 PM) [snapback]387549[/snapback]
Was that held in The Monkey House tongue.gif

That had been pre booked for a Council meeting so they just had it down the pub.
mortonjag 2008-01-21 22:19:31
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jan 21 2008, 10:13 PM) [snapback]387588[/snapback]
I can't believe you'd encourage drinking on a School Night tongue.gif

I didn't exactly encourage it-when I left for Dundee he was sitting doing his homework with that little angelic smile on his face-I should have known something was afoot!
mortonjag 2008-01-21 22:36:19
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Jan 21 2008, 10:24 PM) [snapback]387605[/snapback]
Incidentally, the area is riddled with sectarianism. Absolutely rife with it dry.gif
At the cup game there last season I twice overheard conversations (one between women!) saying they didn't know who Morton were, "probably just some *potential ethnic slur removed* team" and such like. The mouthfuls they received for it nearly sparked some fisticuffs, the women involved again unsure.gif

Edit - unsaid word begins with F and is derrogatory to Catholics dry.gif

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Of course it is just like the rest of the West Central belt of Scotland, but Motherwell itself is, in my experience, no better or worse than Greenock.

Larkhall-a few miles south east-now THAT'S a different story!
mortonjag 2008-01-21 22:38:04 My ex wife taught Derek McInnes!
mortonjag 2008-01-21 22:54:55 Depends what you mean by famous-I've met several international footballers (Willie Henderson's family were patients, as was Jinky's sister, and I knew Jim Baxter, and sadly had the task of issuing his death certificate. Also met Andy Roxburgh in a professional capacity when he was Scotland manager.

I've also treated Neil Sedaka and Melanie Brown.

Used to be in a group who drank in the Salmon Leap in Drymen when Billy Connolly lived there and many a time he had us in stitches, though he could be a dour big c*nt too!

I frequently see Miss Piggy since she retired from the Muppets-she goes under the alias of Bernadette Murphy, and lives right across the landing from us. I don't think she has a clue that we know who she really is.
mortonjag 2008-01-21 23:01:46
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jan 13 2008, 10:22 PM) [snapback]382135[/snapback]
Don't know who you are but indeed my brother was a BB officer, so sounds like you know who I am.

You need to intro yourself the next time you see me.

Funny how BB officer is quite respectable where SS officer ain't!
mortonjag 2008-01-21 23:09:34
QUOTE(Iamdiscostu @ Jan 21 2008, 11:06 PM) [snapback]387657[/snapback]
My sister went to school with him, Castlehead High School in Pishley, apparently he was a posing c#nt even then.

As for something else about myself, I work on a boat but I can't swim and 5 months ago the boat sank, but it was on my time off, thank fk.

Can't comment on that-all she said was that he was good at football and rubbish at English!
mortonjag 2008-01-21 23:15:23
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Jan 21 2008, 11:09 PM) [snapback]387661[/snapback]
I have now spent the past three nights without sleep due to a fracture in my back ............... Yes, it is foo**ng painful!

As I am wide awake and appear to be having little chance of sleep again I just wondered what other injuries etc people had suffered - bad enough to cause them severe pain and discomfort?

Mine was caused by a snowboarding accident and required admission to an Italian hospital in Livigno for numerous tests, scans and Xrays. Followed by a 5 hour coach transfer from resort to airport, 2 hour flight to Manchester and then a 4 hour car drive back home. Sh1t that was an experience I never want to repeat.

Won't stop me boarding though just as soon as I am fit again.

Not good enough-what have they got you on-bloody paracetamol? I take it you're off work, and I'd strongly recommend alcohol in sufficiency if the NHS is letting you down so badly. By all means call a doctor out MT-you wouldn't believe the crap I used to be called to! If you're genuinely in so much pain, you've a right to some relief.
mortonjag 2008-01-21 23:22:21
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Jan 21 2008, 10:37 PM) [snapback]387623[/snapback]
From my experience, short as it was, it is indeed worse.

I think you were very unfortunate-don't let those brief encounters colour your judgement!
mortonjag 2008-01-21 23:28:43
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Jan 21 2008, 11:22 PM) [snapback]387673[/snapback]
Cheers mate, I am on Co-codamol 30/500mg and Ibuprofen 400mg. Spoke to Dr today as I could only get a telephone consultation and he has given me more of the same pain killers. They do keep the pain at bay but only for about 1 and a half hours at best of times and as you will know can only take these every 8 hours!!!!!!!

The problem is I can't sit down. I can only stand or lie down and even then I only have to turn awkward while trying to sleep and BANG - frigging painful as sin.

You can take two of those every six hours, and though I'm being naughty, I gather you're a big chap so popping an extra couple at bedtime shouldn't do much harm. Pity you were not prescribed a muscle relaxant like diazepam short term. Anyway I wasn't joking about the alcohol, but take no responsibility for advice given on our little rag!

Good luck.
mortonjag 2008-01-21 23:38:34
QUOTE(KATKIT @ Jan 21 2008, 11:31 PM) [snapback]387684[/snapback]
If youre a Doctor you may have worked with my dad in the 60s he was a Doctor in Greenock.

Not Dr Katkit!!!


laugh.gif Only joking-I didn't graduate 'til the early seventies, and only once worked briefly as a locum in Greenock for a Dr Henderson who was also Police Surgeon. He had a pokey wee surgery up near the Ravenscraig stadium, and always played a radio in the waiting room so the patients couldn't hear his consultations next door!!!
mortonjag 2008-01-21 23:46:31
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 21 2008, 11:42 PM) [snapback]387699[/snapback]
But - I am just a poor boy and my story's seldom told!

Don't let them score Mr Robinson, Shoogly needs that more than you can know!
mortonjag 2008-01-21 23:50:41
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Jan 21 2008, 11:47 PM) [snapback]387707[/snapback]
So Doc, just how many bad Dr Dr jokes did you come across in your practicing years ? You have 2 minutes to list them starting now. laugh.gif

Was it Lee Even's who once said "Why do they what a Doctor does practicing? I don't want them practicing I want them to know what the **** they are doing"

Best I ever heard-and it's true-a chap once came in, and when I asked how I could help, he exclaimed-'It's ma heid Doctor-it's been oan an aff fur weeks'!
mortonjag 2008-01-21 23:54:29
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jan 21 2008, 11:51 PM) [snapback]387714[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-01-21 23:56:22
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jan 21 2008, 11:52 PM) [snapback]387715[/snapback]
dislocated my shoulder when i was 13, pops out at least 5 times a year now!

dislocated thumbs

torn ligaments in both my ankles

one broken arm at the elbow - courtesy of my brother - do you remember?????? (hoping he reads this thread now)

my hand got jammed in a door when i was 4, scarred for life - lucky to still have the hand apparently - could give jeremy beadle a run for his dosh!

not quite sure which was the worst, these are the ones that stick out!

What a coincidence-I suffered an identical problem with my penis.
mortonjag 2008-01-21 23:59:45
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Jan 21 2008, 11:58 PM) [snapback]387722[/snapback]
and he manages to dribble more these days wink.gif

Sir Stanley mortonjag!
mortonjag 2008-01-22 00:01:57
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jan 21 2008, 11:58 PM) [snapback]387723[/snapback]
w**k Stains ohmy.gif

not if you wipe it up quickly.
mortonjag 2008-01-22 00:05:18
QUOTE(davidh1874 @ Jan 22 2008, 12:02 AM) [snapback]387728[/snapback]
I stubbed my wee toe on the leg of the coffee table when going for a glass of water during the night.

f***in painful I tell you!

Somebody once toed my wee stub at football-that was very sore.
mortonjag 2008-01-22 00:11:54
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Jan 22 2008, 12:10 AM) [snapback]387739[/snapback]
Groupie tongue.gif

The Monkey wants to know the Chimp's name.
mortonjag 2008-01-22 07:20:35
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Jan 22 2008, 12:21 AM) [snapback]387747[/snapback]
laugh.gif Name depends on whether or not the Monkey still gets spanked laugh.gif

Have I just lowered the tone of this conversation unsure.gif

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PDT-the Monkey and I have an agreement about corporal punishment-if he's been naughty he can either miss the next Ton match, or get a good spanking.

He's been a holy terror recently-can't think why! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-22 07:23:31 Ha- I just realised I once met a star from River City-an Indian girl who was also a medical student-her nickname was 'Pinky' but I haven't a clue what part she played as I detest soaps. Anyway she was nice, and complimented me on my guitar playing!
mortonjag 2008-01-22 07:34:13
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jan 22 2008, 12:40 AM) [snapback]387756[/snapback]
Indeed!!! I wish he would sign for St. Mirren, I really do.

As for managers with no experience, other clubs seem to do fine - Mowbray at Hibs (athough I think he was a coach before), John Hughes, Owen Coyle etc., just because McInally has been a disaster doesn't mean all inexperiencced guys will be.

And one thing is for sure - Rae should not be the man to make the appointment, he clearly doesn't have a clue how to deal with managers.

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Could be wrong but I expect big things from McInnes to cite one example, and don't forget our own Hal Stewart had never even been a footballer-he was a salesman and a bit of a Del Boy at that- but he sure knew how to motivate people.
mortonjag 2008-01-22 07:44:08
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jan 22 2008, 12:22 AM) [snapback]387748[/snapback]
That's how I feel.

I'll be at Fir Park on Wednesday but I'm not looking forward to it as much as I should. We're going into a replay against an SPL team with a good shout of going through to a last 16 tie with QOS. We should ALL be straining at the leash for a match like this.

Sadly, I'm more concerned with what McInally does with the team before I can relax and look forward to the game.

You just know he's going to f*** up before a ball's kicked and severely hamper our chances.

My prediciton for this game is Brian Graham to start ahead of Russell. dry.gif

It's an open secret that Brian is one of Rae's 'golden boys'. He's still young and raw, yet he's repeatedly been brought on a a sub when the going got tough, and in those circumstances has never been much use. In fairness to the lad, he's also scored a couple of nice goals for us-I'm not having a go at him-just at the usual managerial stupidity.
mortonjag 2008-01-22 07:47:35
QUOTE(The Shuffler @ Jan 22 2008, 06:35 AM) [snapback]387801[/snapback]
Just for the record mate, i raised my concerns to Dougie at hospitality on Sat regarding the wisdom/reasoning of letting Temps go when we dont have strength in depth striker wise, his reply was "that a striker will be signed before the window closes". Rumours & name dropping will always happen, but im (tentativley!) consoling myself that we are definatley going to sign a striker soon..................... according to Dougie !

Did he happen to mention which window?
mortonjag 2008-01-22 07:49:54
QUOTE(The Shuffler @ Jan 22 2008, 07:39 AM) [snapback]387806[/snapback]
Has he finally uncrossed his arms & found his ba**s ?

Told the players "it's time to shape up or ship out ", better late than never i suppose, lets see if he's true to his word though, also mentions "strengthing the team" .

Is his patience finally wavering or is it that P45 in Rae's hippy which has sparked this latest protestation?
mortonjag 2008-01-22 09:09:35
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 22 2008, 08:43 AM) [snapback]387819[/snapback]
I worked with le_chien_manquee, beat that ya bunch of sad sacks.

Didn't know you were a qualified therapist!
mortonjag 2008-01-22 09:34:48
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 22 2008, 09:12 AM) [snapback]387826[/snapback]
I'm not, he was. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Goodness gracious-so he used to work in IRH, I guess. Now I can put out the feelers to discover his identity, as I'm desperate to meet his neighbours! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-22 09:44:49
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 22 2008, 09:37 AM) [snapback]387833[/snapback]
Why didn't you say, he stays downstairs from me. laugh.gif

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A man of your age should be capable of shagging without rocking the foundations of the building! Nah-I reckon it's more likely he lives next door to Corky who gives it laldy every time the Jags 'score'!
mortonjag 2008-01-22 09:58:24
QUOTE(jpmil @ Jan 22 2008, 09:52 AM) [snapback]387838[/snapback]
Use the "Block List" function selectively and all of a sudden the site will become more enjoyable...honest!!!!!

Vive le bouton de pique! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-22 10:09:45
QUOTE(jpmil @ Jan 22 2008, 10:02 AM) [snapback]387841[/snapback]
It takes one to know one!!!!! Although in your case I'd add arrogant!!

Comment?

Le bouton de pique est une chose! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-22 10:28:37 cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(C B @ Jan 22 2008, 10:09 AM) [snapback]387842[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Lie-la-lie...Lie-la-lie-lie-lie-La-lie.....Lie-la-lie...
Hey we have inadvertently discovered our new anthem!!!!!!

Who needs Live is Life ? PAH laugh.gif[/quote]
JM was a poor boy, but that story's seldom told
He's squandered his existence for a pocketful of mumbles, such are promises
All lies and jest, still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest, hmmmm

And he's laying out his winter clothes, wishing he was gone, goin home
Where the Parkhead sh*tty punters won't be bleedin him, leadin him to go home

In the clear he stands- his socks are green and white and nicely made
Yet he carries the reminders of every time they let him down and cut him
til he cried out in his anger and his shame
I am leaving, I am leaving, but those sh*tes are still the same
Yes still the same


Li la li unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-22 11:17:11
QUOTE(psycho @ Jan 22 2008, 11:05 AM) [snapback]387869[/snapback]
Game off !!

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mortonjag 2008-01-22 12:43:53
QUOTE(Bobbyton @ Jan 22 2008, 12:35 PM) [snapback]387897[/snapback]
Does nobody else rate Allan Moore? He is the only man for the job in my eyes. Think he'd jump at the chance as well to step up and manage full time.

Could be wrong, but I think Moore has a full time contract at Stirling-he could do the job-no doubt about it, but he would clash with Rae for sure, and probably last a couple of months IMO.
mortonjag 2008-01-22 14:29:32
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jan 22 2008, 01:01 PM) [snapback]387913[/snapback]
part time.

Was that the case last season Bryan-I'm certain Mif told me he was full time then.
mortonjag 2008-01-22 14:31:01
QUOTE(Bobbyton @ Jan 22 2008, 01:22 PM) [snapback]387925[/snapback]
How would he clash with Rae? McCormack was a strong minded person who would have stood up to the so called dictatorship you talk about except he lasted a fair time at the club. Why wouldn't Moore if his results were good?

Cowboy was that bit older and possibly less volatile, albeit he knew his own mind-could be wrong of course, and would love to try it.
mortonjag 2008-01-22 14:33:37
QUOTE(KATKIT @ Jan 22 2008, 02:27 PM) [snapback]387944[/snapback]
Real supporters support a team through thick and thin.

Not so-if they're pissed off they go to the bullfighting!
mortonjag 2008-01-22 14:36:34
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Jan 22 2008, 01:22 PM) [snapback]387924[/snapback]
Woman jailed for testicle attack

A woman who ripped off her ex-boyfriend's testicle with her bare hands has been sent to prison.

An argument ensued and Mr Jones said there was a struggle between them. In his statement, Mr Jones said she grabbed his genitals and "pulled hard".

The court heard that a friend saw Monti put Mr Jones's testicle into her mouth and try to swallow it. She choked and spat it back into her hand before the friend grabbed it and gave it back to Mr Jones. Doctors were unable to re-attach the organ.

Poor girl though, got the sack and sent to jail.

Poor, poor chap-it wouldn't be quite so tragic if he'd had two in the first place.
mortonjag 2008-01-22 14:39:30
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 22 2008, 02:04 PM) [snapback]387940[/snapback]
To do what may I ask tongue.gif

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Have you been talking to him? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-22 14:43:50
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 22 2008, 02:29 PM) [snapback]387946[/snapback]
Blink 182 - Freak scene

Isn't google wonderful?....
NEXT:

I gave a letter to the mailman,
He put it in his sack

Elvis-return to sender...




I wonder if one day that you'll say that you care
mortonjag 2008-01-22 14:46:26
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 22 2008, 02:33 PM) [snapback]387952[/snapback]
I wish more players would interact with fans in that manner, real old fashioned football fans and players are a dying breed.

True-- Chic Charnley would have given two fingers as well-one from each hand-and a big cheesy grin to go with them!
mortonjag 2008-01-22 14:55:32
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jan 22 2008, 02:53 PM) [snapback]387960[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif She got the sack ok.....

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mortonjag 2008-01-22 15:09:04 Just wondering-my sister in law's just acquired one and they've called it


MAGGIE!!!


I think that name's more suited to a bird, or maybe a mole! huh.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-22 15:22:43
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Jan 22 2008, 03:20 PM) [snapback]387972[/snapback]
strange as it may sound i actually had this conversation with my mum about a month ago. She and my dad bet on the horses and they asked if i had a racehorse what would i call it.
I decided eventually on "The Horsee"
*commentator*

"the horsee is comin up the left.....the horsee goes two lengths in front....the horsee wins the grand national"
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Horsee the horse-yeah that sounds fine, but Maggie the horse? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-22 15:37:02
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 22 2008, 03:22 PM) [snapback]387973[/snapback]
Pedigree Chum laugh.gif

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You are a bad man-do they still mince up horse in Barrhead and can it for the pooches BTW?
mortonjag 2008-01-22 15:41:40
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 22 2008, 03:24 PM) [snapback]387975[/snapback]
laugh.gif Not recently but I am due to visit Perth in March. Will ask him then biggrin.gif

He'll definitely remember her-she always wore a necklace bearing the legend 'I married a loser'.



Oh...and I forgot about the baseball bat in her big handbag.
mortonjag 2008-01-22 15:43:45
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 22 2008, 03:39 PM) [snapback]387984[/snapback]
Sorry to disappoint mate. The factory closed a while back.

Used to be a fiendish smell when I drove past-that was before my best friend whispered in my ear.
mortonjag 2008-01-22 15:45:05
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jan 22 2008, 03:35 PM) [snapback]387981[/snapback]
Aye, but will we notice the difference laugh.gif

He can finnish a move.
mortonjag 2008-01-22 15:46:51
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 22 2008, 03:44 PM) [snapback]387989[/snapback]
Two back feet
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mortonjag 2008-01-22 16:16:43 It's strange that nobody seems to have met the Queen!

The nearest I ever got to her was a surprise-we were driving from Linwood to Bridge of Weir and were stopped at the junction just outside Brookfield by the police. There was a small group of folks who had been carefully marshalled into a wee huddle at the roadside, and I wondered what the hell was going on. Just as my wife mumbled something about a royal visit, the motorcade trundled past-all the folk in the group were waving and clapping like mad, but Betty never even looked the road they were on-his nibs gave a half hearted gesture of the hand, and that was it! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-22 16:19:33
QUOTE(Iamdiscostu @ Jan 22 2008, 04:15 PM) [snapback]387999[/snapback]
That was "The Anchor" wasn't it? I used to drink in there when her and her husband owned the place, it was always know that you could get a gobble from her if her old man could tape it. She wasn't too bad looking either, poledancer from Glasgow if my memory serves me right.

Lovely hair, parted right down the middle.

pair?
mortonjag 2008-01-22 18:15:20
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Jan 22 2008, 05:56 PM) [snapback]388029[/snapback]
I think GibbyTon mentioned that he had met the Queen or it may have been A Queen???? tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-01-22 18:37:16
QUOTE(binnie @ Jan 22 2008, 06:18 PM) [snapback]388038[/snapback]
theres only one kenny deucher his wife is a hooker u give her to bob she'll suck your n*b walkin in a hooker wonderland

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I wonder if you can just write NOB without the wee star!

Good gracious-let's try KNOB

Aah-things are looking up!
mortonjag 2008-01-22 18:44:20
QUOTE(binnie @ Jan 22 2008, 06:39 PM) [snapback]388047[/snapback]
well a got kiked of a forum for it

eh? just for writing 'knob'? What forum was that-the baptist church prayer link or something?!!!
mortonjag 2008-01-22 18:52:58 It's beginning to look like Jim's now caught between the Devil and the deep blue sea-seems very much like he's been passing the pressure from on high onto the players and they haven't responded. I've got to say I feel a tad sorry for him, but ultimately this is of his own making, and I'm wondering how he can possibly turn things around before the Master finally loses patience.
mortonjag 2008-01-22 18:56:30
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 22 2008, 06:46 PM) [snapback]388054[/snapback]
Thorton will love this guy laugh.gif

Thornton is a n*b!
mortonjag 2008-01-22 19:04:04
QUOTE(axeman @ Jan 22 2008, 06:57 PM) [snapback]388065[/snapback]
They've just announced he's out for the season.

I'm sorry for the lad, but not for Gre£na-the chickens are coming home to roost-just goes to show what can happen when a rich man indulges his fantasies. God could not save poor Gretna from the Mileson round its neck.
mortonjag 2008-01-22 19:07:22
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jan 22 2008, 07:05 PM) [snapback]388074[/snapback]
if it is people that i have met and spoken to, as opposed to someone i have just seen, then it would be

the queen, prince charles, diana, princesses anne and margret, prince philip, john major, malcolm rifkind, alex salmond, rev. ian paisley, dowza, stiff little fingers (even managed a wee kick about with them wink.gif ) spicy mchaggis, gary lineker, most of the cast of emerdale (twats) and god. To name but a few. Friend of the stars me wink.gif

any particular god, or just god?
mortonjag 2008-01-23 06:30:06
QUOTE(centralTON @ Jan 22 2008, 08:29 PM) [snapback]388166[/snapback]
This is almost certainly the team which will start the game as we have very few options. I looked at the bench on Saturday when we were 2-0 down and thought " we have no one we can bring on to try to change the game". We have left ourselves woefully short up front by allowing players to be released without replacements being brought in. If Harding and McGregor are just gonnae hoof the ball up the park then we might as well stick big Greacen up beside Russell, at least he'll make an attempt to win it in the air, which is more than our top striker has done for a wee while.

Said exactly the same when they went two up!
mortonjag 2008-01-23 06:34:44
QUOTE(lemmington @ Jan 22 2008, 08:49 PM) [snapback]388202[/snapback]
Whats the best route to take????

Over the first cliff perhaps? wink.gif

Where does your journey start-Motherwell's off the main Scotland England motorway which you'll find in all good atlases. Take the exit for Hamilton/Motherwell and head up the hill to Motherwell-soon you will see floodlights-park as near as possible, and don't carry bagpipes.
mortonjag 2008-01-23 06:44:29 I too attempted to contact the club via GMFC.net (if you wish to discuss this topic etc.) at the time of the Craig Thomson incident at Hamilton. I praised Mr Rae's stance, and mentioned that I, along with others had also written to the SFA. I received no acknowledgement of any kind, not that I was surprised!
mortonjag 2008-01-23 06:51:06
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Jan 23 2008, 06:43 AM) [snapback]388596[/snapback]
Dont be so f***in stupid, it works like this........ When we lose it's jim McInally's (and DDRs) fault, when we win, the players did it in spite of the managers tactics.
Well, thats what the keyboard experts on here keep pointing out anyway,

For once you are correct.
mortonjag 2008-01-23 07:04:39
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 23 2008, 12:04 AM) [snapback]388508[/snapback]
Looks like its more the story of Sutton and Mensing than Coakley and Gardyne , Dougie must be some angler as every big one seems to get away . I wonder if we'll get an explaination Dougie style . I go for
I got out my Merc , proceeded to the ground ,where I was to meet our big winter signing as recommended by our excellent young manager , who I have a great working relationship .
Suddenly !!! I was set upon by Mortonjag and a group of the Toby Boo Boys . In the scuffle I lost my dentures !!!!!!! . So , while I fended them off with the aid of a Fudgy Wudgy !!! and a bag of Quarter pounders ! from THE GOLDEN CASKET . Dundee manager Gavin Rae , had dug a tunnel into my office and Kidnapped our player !!!!! Telling him lies that they were challenging for promotion and we were languishing near the bottom ??? we are at least midtable on the official website !! He then told him the story of the Cappielow boo Boys this would strike fear into any footballer of calibre ,, as they like having nothing more than a good moan
We know Dundee United have stole players in the past this season .An untrustworthy goblin is how I'd describe Alex Rae ,
I have looked out my stationary box and have written to the SFA in protest but have not had a reply from Ernie Walker yet !!!!! but all Morton fans can rest assured that their chairman and manager , The Gaffur , will be doing our upmost to strengthening the team ,
All , I can say , is the fans can trust us to get it right .
Aye ,
Dougie

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P.ESH.

If anyone should find my denturesh, I shall be eternally indebted to that pershon if that pershon, be he or she whomshoever he or she may be, could bring him or hershelf, (asshuming he or she ish able) to enshure their shafe and timeous transhmisshion to my Chief Exshecutive, Ms. Gillian Donaldshon, who can shometimes be found at Cappielow Park, Shinclair Street, Greenock, ash she alwaysh washes them for me before my shpeeches.


Yoursh Aye

Douglish
mortonjag 2008-01-23 07:23:10
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jan 22 2008, 10:20 PM) [snapback]388382[/snapback]
The team that won the third division got off to a flying start in the second division in 2003/4 season, but something went dreadfully wrong at Cappielow starting from the 1-0 new year defeat at Dumbarton. We were playing well until then, we were around 14-15 points ahead of Airdrie and looked dead certs to win the league that year, but we threw it away and ended up being fourth place amid allegations of players throwing the league to win bets etc. There are countless versions of events and plenty of folk are privvy to versions which shouldnt be told etc. but the crux of the matter is whatever really happened back then was the work of evil. Morton were flying up the leagues back then, John McCormack got it right, the team were playing well, the supporters adored them and then everything came to a shuddering halt in such a cruel and premature manner.

Morton havent recovered since then. Fine, we may have won the second division (after four seasons of trying), players have come and gone but the undercurrent of suspicion towards the playing staff is still there, supporters who dare to speak out about how unhappy they are about certain things are treated with disdain and derision by the club and its inner sanctum, the culture of transparency which we were promised at the beginning of the Rae regime's tenure doesnt read quite true. His time in charge is littered with instances of inaccuracies and sometimes dubious information peddled to the supporters which lead you to question whether the man can be trusted. But och aye, hes a Morton Man thru n' thru, cut his vein he'd bleed blue hoops blah. etc. pish.

Its tiresome. Its depressing. Its not what Morton should be.

Look at Gretna, it was only a couple of years ago we played them in their first game in the SFL. They steamed past us on the way up to the SPL. They may be bottom, but they are getting a fortune in TV rights and sponsorship. They may have had a lot of money thrown at them, but we've not exactly been paupers over the same period of time but we've squandered a fortune on bad decisions.

Look at Hamilton, they werent even given a second thought back in 2003/4 season, but they managed to leapfrog us when we threw the league away that year, and earn themselves promotion to the first division where they've stayed since. They attract brilliant young players, and even still they manage to hold on to them, and this season they look like a safe bet to go up to the SPL.

Look at Morton. Perennial under-achievers. A club with more leaks than a Cardiff Sainsbury's. Everyone we try and sign ends up going to Tayside, we sign guys like Coakley who only gets a chance because his dad is loaded. We squander cash and plead poverty then berate our supporters for not being as good as Celtics. A club with a manager of dubious integrity who is doing a Malpas to a chairman not big enough to sack him. A club who have players who hate the fans, and the feeling is mutual, believe me.

It is repulsive. It is heartbreaking. Is it a place worth giving up a day off work for?

That's the only bit I disagree with-the Maister will sack anybody if he decides that suits him-it's obvious to me that up 'til now JM has managed to stay in the good books because he wouldn't say boo to a goose, but recent happenings suggest the worm may have turned, and disenchanted both the Chairman AND his players simultaneously.

For him (JM) that's bad, bad news, and the P45 undoubtedly looms.
mortonjag 2008-01-23 08:05:17 Rae has become a total liability-why did he bother saving OUR club in the first place when it was simply to make it his little plaything?

He's reputedly a wealthy and successful businessman, yet his headstrong self indulgence, catalysed by an entourage of sycophantic 'hingers on' has made us the laughing stock of Scottish Football.

Why can't we sign players? DON'T blame the manager for that one-football is a tight knit community, and everybody knows what's been going on at Cappielow.

I have so little faith in that man that I wouldn't in the slightest be surprised if this Alastair Donald appointment falls flat on its face before it even gets off the ground! sleep.gif How can a man of Donald's experience and bullish success EVER work with someone who can't even delegate the buying of toilet paper for the Scapa bogs?

Arthur Montford and Ian Brown are now Honorary Vice Presidents, but who is THE President? Ach well, I guess Latin was never the Shooglemeister's best subject at school!

That leaves a nominal Director in Jim McColl, and little boy Crawford. What does HE think of this shambles? Is he in total awe of his father, or just patiently waiting to step into his shoes-either way, he certainly comes over more as mouse than man.

So the Shoogly show rumbles on, and his behaviour gets MORE dictatorial by the minute. No greater fool than an old one, they say!

His monopolistic programme notes are self opinionated, stilted, and frequently offensive to the playing staff and the intelligence. He slates off 'boo' and 'negativity' boys', grumbles about lack of vocal support and dwindling crowds, prattles on about his love affair with the May Hughes Dancers, and still can't see that he's made even the tiniest mistake.

Hitler, Mussolini, Amin, and Hussein spring to mind.

I have been praying so hard for the only thing which I believe can sort this problem out.

Tell me that's evil, and I'll call you a Shooglyphile.
mortonjag 2008-01-23 09:02:31
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jan 23 2008, 08:24 AM) [snapback]388609[/snapback]
MJ I've no problem with your general premise that DDFR is part of the problem at Morton but seriously get a grip of yourself. Comparing Morton's chairman to the likes of Hitler etc only make you look like a daft old fanny and undermine the sensible stuff you have to say.

Stirring up controversy on a messageboard with stuff like that isn't new and can be easily interpreted as a desperate need for attention.

Comparing and contrasting are perfectly legitimate-Rae may well be described as a 'benign' dictator, but a dictator he undoubtedly is, and we are all suffering as a result.

Perhaps I am in desperate need of attention-if so, I guess I'm doing something to sort out the problem.

Over to you Shoogly!
mortonjag 2008-01-23 09:09:57
QUOTE(pgmsc @ Jan 23 2008, 08:26 AM) [snapback]388610[/snapback]
And your are?

You disappear for weeks and come back with a vengeance in your criticism of the Club I agree there is a lot wrong However don't see what benefit it is to anyone with your rants on here.

Are you a trust member ? if so direct your questions towards Jim McColl as I believe that it was time that the trust started asking question however Jim seems happy to sit in the directors box without taking on the responsibility of representing the the trust share holders .

I have been at meetings regarding the Youth set up which comes under Jims remit however he was unable to answer most questions asked has never spoken to the youth coaches and never been to a youth match however was happy to tell everyone that he was a director forgetting if it was not for the trust he would not be a director.

I'm not entirely sure what your point is-I've already told you why Jim gets nothing done-RAE!

Is this not the correct place for genuine Morton fans to openly vent their feelings without fear of retribution?

I'm only saying what many, many others are at last realising is true-the club is in a disorganised mess from top to bottom, but unlike those others I've been saying the same thing for over three years-NOT just in response to recent events.

All power is said to corrupt, and apparently total power corrupts totally.
mortonjag 2008-01-23 09:11:51
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 23 2008, 08:33 AM) [snapback]388612[/snapback]
Will you be saying these things face to face to Mr Rae in February ? unsure.gif

I am capable of making a point diplomatically! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-23 09:18:59
QUOTE(pgmsc @ Jan 23 2008, 09:14 AM) [snapback]388628[/snapback]
So Rae stops him from talking to the Coaches stops him from going to youth matches

Don't start on about the youth policy-Rae has already proved himself to be devious when it comes to that issue-ask Chrissiboi. What on earth makes you think Jim McColl has free rein to do what he pleases when everything at Cappielow has to be countersigned? That is the very point of my post-the place is totally bereft of true delegation, and Rae is universally feared (not respected).
mortonjag 2008-01-23 09:26:23
QUOTE(ayrstorm @ Jan 23 2008, 09:19 AM) [snapback]388631[/snapback]
in football, nothing wrong with a 'dictator' who recognises what has to be done and gets it sorted, but is also big enough to acknowledge his mistakes in public and sort them. Just look up the road at David Murray!

as to all the other guff in the rambling, regular repeating it on here in the way it is done does look like a personal vendetta eg
stick to the facts - the team is not performing, the manager is not inspiring the fans, the crowds are not healthy, the buck stops at the owner.

this toilet roll pish, unsubstantiated rumour you spread, is what makes it look like a vendetta

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The toilet roll story came straight from Cappielow-it IS as laughable as that-why don't you establish your facts before criticising mine!
mortonjag 2008-01-23 09:29:05
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jan 23 2008, 08:42 AM) [snapback]388616[/snapback]
Surely the pitch inspection could be left till say 5 o'clock to allow the groundsmen to get the pitch ready?

The tractors take a long time to get up the M74.
mortonjag 2008-01-23 09:33:41
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jan 23 2008, 09:27 AM) [snapback]388636[/snapback]
You are no doubt capable of making these points on the messageboard. But we have a fans rally in February, and you are one of Rae's biggest critics to the point of comparing him to Hitler, Mussolini, Amin, and Hussein.

Will you be making these points to him face to face ?

I will most certainly be asking pointed questions Col, but as you very well know, the rally is a charade. If things keep going the way they are, it will almost certainly be 'postponed'!

The contents of this 'rag' are freely available to all who are interested, and my points are made on that understanding. Wouldn't it be refreshing for somebody from the inner sanctum to grace us with some opinion! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-23 09:37:06
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Jan 23 2008, 09:32 AM) [snapback]388638[/snapback]
Certain comments there remind me of someone

Old hat SH-is that REALLY the best you can do? dry.gif

The truth is that it's folk like you with your 'clever' little 'one liners' who are the attention seekers.
'
What is YOUR opinion of the current set up, if you actually have one?
mortonjag 2008-01-23 09:41:48
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jan 23 2008, 09:37 AM) [snapback]388646[/snapback]
isnt it the majority of the people from this 'rag' that goto the rally anyway?
anyway you cant hold dougie ENTIRELY responsible for whats going on. JM seems to have a severe gap in his knowledge of his tactics and formation at cappielow. But from the rumours floating around dougie intereferes so maybe it is all his fault.
either way something needs to be done, someone needs to go and unfortunately theres not alot we can do unless the entire forum all chips in together and buys the club.

He's the man who persisted with JM after his failures two seasons in a row.
mortonjag 2008-01-23 09:50:38 In response to Ryan H's question-'Who should I pass to'?
mortonjag 2008-01-23 09:54:22
QUOTE(The Shuffler @ Jan 23 2008, 06:19 AM) [snapback]388590[/snapback]
ohmy.gif That was my Doc, he passed away a few years ago. Im still registered to that "pokey wee surgery" & let me tell you its 10 times better than that sh*thole we call a health centre.

...But surely not still in the same building? It didn't even have a toilet if I re-call correctly!
mortonjag 2008-01-23 10:11:03
QUOTE(Russells Muscles @ Jan 23 2008, 09:55 AM) [snapback]388661[/snapback]
You sit just a few rows behind him on match days Mr Newall, why don't you repeat all this garbage to his face instead of spouting your bile on a public forum. Perhaps you're just all mouth like a few others on here? If you don't like what's on offer at Cappielow, p*ss off. mad.gif

No Sir, why should I have to 'piss off' because I dislike what's happening to a club I've supported for almost 50 years?

'Garbage'-is that the best you can do? What have I stated that is inaccurate?

You clearly know who I am (though it's DR Newall to you)-care to reveal your identity so that the posters can put a face to you-or are YOU just all mouth? dry.gif

I got the same sort of abuse from about 90% of posters when I was making identical points long, long ago. Now the automatic 'rubbishing' of those who dare to criticise the great man has diminished to a cringeworthy bleat.
mortonjag 2008-01-23 10:23:50
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jan 23 2008, 10:14 AM) [snapback]388669[/snapback]
can I ask a fair question MJ?
ok we both agree that dougie is a problem and JM hasnt got a clue half the time BUT what if dougie did give up and sell the club and we ended up wither another t*** like Scott with an even stupider manager? is it worth taking that risk or jsut let dougie go on till he realises what he's doing?

Damned if we do, and damned if we don't. It's a risk-I acknowledge that, and it's a risk posed to almost any football club because of the nature of the game. I don't think Rae is capable of changing-he's elderly, and set in his ways, and I've NEVER said he doesn't mean well. Haven't a clue what it would take to have him see the error of his ways.
mortonjag 2008-01-23 10:28:25
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jan 23 2008, 10:25 AM) [snapback]388675[/snapback]
probably nothing short of the ghost of christmas past at this rate.

Sadly that's extremely appropriate.
mortonjag 2008-01-23 10:37:13
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 23 2008, 10:27 AM) [snapback]388676[/snapback]
So I take it we're not signing anyone at all? The whole thing was just a ruse to try to pacify us. Pathetic.

One thing's for sure-he's said he'll not be 'bullied' into signing players-how in God's name can you 'bully' the guy with all the power at his fingertips.

As I've said elsewhere Rae seems to think you can deal in players like you're bartering for cut price sugar. I'm utterly, utterly sick of his ego getting in the way of reason, and we're the ones who suffer. I didn't know whether to laugh or cry at his explanation of the Jani Sturm affair, and no doubt we'll be getting more of the same.

I can't believe that some fans still have patience with this man-some still seem almost to worship him as a God, but let's face it, his two current functions seem only to be making sweeties and f*cking Greenock Morton! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-23 10:52:21
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Jan 23 2008, 10:48 AM) [snapback]388687[/snapback]
I've said all along that before Rae is hounded out the door people should be looking around for the alternative and I haven't seen any evidence of a clear option apart from the regular 'I know of some stinking rich Morton minded people that want to throw loads of cash at the club but Dougie Rae won't let them' posts that never name any names.

Not much more needs to be added to the McInally debate, though I'm sure another few hundred threads will be. If we don't beat Clyde that should be the end of the matter (although who can be sure) but I have real concerns over who might show up to replace him. As I've said before, McInally is not the only manager in the league who plays players out of position, makes poor signings etc etc etc even though a lot of Ton fans seem to think he has the monopoly on it.

We're well aware you've been saying this stuff for three years. Along with a lot of other stuff such as Spoonsy being a striker. You're the Nostradamus of this message board and some people love you for it. And some people find it tedious.

Fair enough.
mortonjag 2008-01-23 12:57:22
QUOTE(cmdc @ Jan 23 2008, 11:16 AM) [snapback]388698[/snapback]
Are you wishing death on the guy? blink.gif

My wish is that in some way (I've know idea what) circumstances change,and a competent regime is instituted.
mortonjag 2008-01-23 12:58:18
QUOTE(ayrstorm @ Jan 23 2008, 11:29 AM) [snapback]388704[/snapback]
so we need to agree to disagree on that one - maybe the story came straight from Cappielow, but so did a lot of supposed signing stories and the facts in them are few and far between. If its not in an agm minutes or some official club release ........

I think where we have some agreement must be this:

the team is not performing, the manager is not inspiring the fans, the crowds are not healthy, the buck stops at the owner.

He put the manager in place, he will approve/disapprove signings and releases, he has influenced (or maybe its controlled) the board membership and he has to take ultimate blame if it continues to go wrong and fans turn away again. He also has the chance to sort it from within or find someone outwith who can.

Correct.
mortonjag 2008-01-23 13:00:20
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 23 2008, 11:37 AM) [snapback]388709[/snapback]
Psycho.

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Seems you too have jumped to conclusions, though I'd suggest that Mr. Rae is not himself a stranger to Machiavellian philosophy. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-23 13:47:25
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jan 23 2008, 01:17 PM) [snapback]388774[/snapback]
theres a lot of big long words in there MJ, but unfortunately nothing that we havent all read 13,160 (13,160!!!) times before.

we all know how clever you are and are highly impressed that you DO have an excellent grasp of latin. Well done, yourself a pat on the back. most of us are also disillusioned with whats going on at the club at the moment and lay a significant share of the blame at the door to the office of the chairman.

what else do you want from us? please stop pontificating and making such long, boring posts as they are only adding to all of our misery.

p.s. please feel free to highlight any errors i may have made in my spelling or grammar rather than replying to what i have actually said here.

edit to add - i would rather be supporting a rich mans "plaything" playing 1st division football than be watching us in the juniors or whatever, so questioning why he bothered saving the club is way out of line. we all know that Rae isnt the ideal chairman and we are all frequently frustrated by his actions or lack thereof, but regardless of all this I will never forget that HE was the man who stepped in at the 11th hour, and for that we will all be forever indebted to him. this DOESNT make him exempt from criticism though, before you accuse me of being a shooglyphile or whatever

How many of you are there in this multiple personality of yours Greacen-if you disagree with my opinions, say so, but don't tell me what to do and what not to do, and don't talk for others who are perfectly capable of voicing their own feelings.

Aye it's a cleft stick indeed-without Rae there would be no Morton, but if the current fiasco goes on and we freefall to the bottom of the third division, will you still be 'forever indebted to him'? Where does common sense step in? If I save a young woman's life, does she then become my chattel-someone who will never complain no matter how many times I beat and rape her-just because she's forever indebted to me?

Rae has clearly demonstrated (so far as I can see) that he saved GMFC because he wanted to-not because he gave a toss about the thoughts and feelings of his fellow fans, and he's been happy to bask in the limelight ever since, riding roughshod over all and sundry in the process. That, IMHO, is NOT the behaviour of a true fan who cares for the club in its entirety, and as I've said before, a club without fans is dead. For that reason I believe it's correct that those who are unhappy should make their feelings heard as vociferously as possible.

mortonjag 2008-01-23 13:49:09
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jan 23 2008, 01:38 PM) [snapback]388789[/snapback]
what does pontificating mean?

this ones for you MJ

Being a Mr Rae-I guess!
mortonjag 2008-01-23 13:53:14
QUOTE(Patg @ Jan 23 2008, 01:46 PM) [snapback]388795[/snapback]
Doubtfull , The last rally there was a distinct silence from the boo boys
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Comeon MJ , By reading your post it looks like you commented you are praying for him to kick the bucket ? For all of Dougies failings the one thing you or anyone else can never accuse him of is NOT BEING A MORTON MAN

He is a Morton supporter and did save the club , I think its time for him to step down but think some of your postings towards him are pretty poor

Scott Gillan (PS Ive never hid behind my user name unlike yourself )

Crap Scott-my identity's been common knowledge for ages-FFS even my address was given in the copy of my letter from the SFA re Craig Thomson, after I had backed Douglas Rae's stance to the hilt! ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-23 14:05:06
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Jan 23 2008, 01:08 PM) [snapback]388766[/snapback]
Leaving Kilmacolm, take 2nd right, follow road down over the Gryffe and into Quarriers.
Take a right at the T junction and it's on the left.
Don't know how welcome visitors are though...

Is that on the site of the old 'Epileptic Colony'?
mortonjag 2008-01-23 14:08:32
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jan 23 2008, 02:02 PM) [snapback]388808[/snapback]
did u get fan mail or hate mail after that one lol

j/k man.
does everyone think the rally will def go ahead?

I've had my share of unpleasant p.m.'s but so far nothing in the post! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-23 16:08:59 I'm going, and taking the Monkey, Fing, and Mairi-I think she now regrets that decision, but she was at the Killie victory last year so maybe a lucky mascot!
mortonjag 2008-01-23 16:11:24 Probably well known but Borj Thorup works on Western Ferries-usually the Sound of Scarba.
mortonjag 2008-01-23 16:18:15
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 23 2008, 03:59 PM) [snapback]388867[/snapback]
Sitting on the chairman's lap on Saturday tongue.gif
I tend not to have a go at the players( sorry , I lost the plot at Harding for letting Deuchar steal the ball and only McGurn's save revented a goal) and I haven't booed towards anyone and I have hardly been an outspoken supporter . I think if you saw any sign of recovery , entertainment , foward planning then frustration wouldn't be so high .
JM has had 4 years which is a long time to get your feet under the table at a football club at the present .This is the first season where we face teams of a similar size and standard ie fulltime training . It is also the first time difficult games are on a regular basis .
What we have saw is a side incapable of matching the standard and a manager who constantly bewilders with selection , tactics and substitutions.
Look at McInally's reign overall , despite the advantage of being full time it took 3 attempts before promotion was won . We were told that this young squad would come good and we would find things easier in a higher division , this isin't the case .
There are other issues that have brought this so called negativity . The summer transfer debacle , now we have a January sale , the squad numbers have dropped to a size that forgive me for saying this but looks as if we are preparing for 2nd division football. Guys like Templeman going and our target replacement away to Dundee . Millar ? according to the chairman he just jumped the gun in signing a precontract agreement for another of our league rivals . Will we keep him until the season end will we sort out the problems that prevented the signing of Jenkins will that be enough to instill much needed confidence in the team and therefore the support.

Snap Chris-I never let off steam at individual players, and the only time I ever will is likely to be if I have proof somebody's deliberately been shirking.

Those are young boys-they need guidance and support, especially if things are not going too well, and that's one reason why we should have signed two or three seasoned 'pros' ages ago.
mortonjag 2008-01-23 16:29:27
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jan 23 2008, 04:24 PM) [snapback]388902[/snapback]
Does Rowan Alexander still think he's the Gretna manager?

If recent comments from some posters are anything to go on he probably thinks he's Dougie Rae, the Pope, God, and a local Big Issue seller at one and the same time, and keeps his pills in an old Smartie tube.
mortonjag 2008-01-23 16:32:09
QUOTE(Deego @ Jan 23 2008, 04:24 PM) [snapback]388903[/snapback]
My thread not good enough? sad.gif

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What does the girlfriend think? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-23 17:12:07
QUOTE(Russells Muscles @ Jan 23 2008, 09:55 AM) [snapback]388661[/snapback]
You sit just a few rows behind him on match days Mr Newall, why don't you repeat all this garbage to his face instead of spouting your bile on a public forum. Perhaps you're just all mouth like a few others on here? If you don't like what's on offer at Cappielow, p*ss off. mad.gif

I see you still haven't revealed your identity RM-nor for that matter acknowledged my p.m. I must confess I'm astonished that you know where I sit on match days-you haven't been a naughty boy and given away classified club information on an unofficial fans' forum perchance!!!

Dearie, dearie me-Data protection Act and all that-next thing you'll be revealing that the Monkey is on the list of sex offenders! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-23 17:33:05 Hopefully the boys wil raise their game tonight-I'm honestly not expecting a victory but a decent effort will send me home with some peace of mind, and I'll be backing them throughout the game as always.
mortonjag 2008-01-23 17:38:19
QUOTE(The Shuffler @ Jan 23 2008, 04:13 PM) [snapback]388895[/snapback]
Yes, the same building.

The toilet was always there, at the back on the right hanside of the wall as you came in the door. The waiting room has been halved now by a reception area !

Wow, I can hardly believe that-I'm sure it was 1983 when I worked there-I was on call for 24/7 throughout the whole nine days, though I didn't get too many calls out during the night. Is there still just one Doctor in the practice?
mortonjag 2008-01-23 17:46:21 An expression we used at Hallowe'en was 'going your goloshons'-I've no idea how it's spelled and can't find any derivation, though the nearest would be 'goloshing' I suppose. I've never heard the term outside Inverclyde-anybody familiar with it?
mortonjag 2008-01-23 17:49:36
QUOTE(stubaws @ Jan 23 2008, 05:44 PM) [snapback]388959[/snapback]
jesus christ MJ for a while i was missing u on this board but not now! ur vendetta against dougie is even more embarassing than dougies pre-match microphone efforts. he has his faults of that there is no doubt but ur kicking the arse right out of it now. away and have a lie down

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You said that all so sweetly-not a nasty word in it, and I apologise for embarrassing such a nice person.
mortonjag 2008-01-23 18:02:52
QUOTE(floydpink26 @ Jan 23 2008, 05:49 PM) [snapback]388967[/snapback]
So why dont you say anything to Dougie Rae MJ,If your seat is so close to his,You have a perfect opportunity to get answers,and you come on here asking the questions that you could be asking him to his face....why dont you?

You seem to be a bit upset that some 1 has pointed this out.

You're totally missing the point-NOBODY knows where I sit, except my brother, and only two forum users have met me in person-both are entirely trustworthy and don't use the stand.

I've not pushed this issue-in fact I've tried to lighten it up a bit, but classified information appears to have been released on to a public forum by somebody with privileged access.

IF I was really pursuing a vendetta against Mr Rae, I could have this issue investigated under the Data Protection Act. Many an employee has been sacked for less.


Why don't I say anything directly to Mr Rae? For one simple reason-there is a time and place for everything. Irrespective of my feelings, on a Saturday he is there to (hopefully) enjoy the football, as am I. Furthermore, I have little doubt that the comments of one solitary fan on a match day would have little effect, even if he was polite enough to listen.

As I've said before, this is the place to air views, or as a last resort, in the newspapers.
mortonjag 2008-01-24 06:58:45
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jan 23 2008, 08:21 PM) [snapback]389120[/snapback]
AND if Newton is to be believed we missed out on Scott McDonald in the Summer sad.gif

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Not quite Scott McDonald, but that whole issue became a farce and we definitely scorned a 'no catches' opportunity.
mortonjag 2008-01-24 07:11:50
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 24 2008, 12:18 AM) [snapback]389295[/snapback]
There was a wee shot of the pitch inspection on Scotsport tonight. Kenny Clark stood over a muddy patch and dropped the ball from about shoulder height. It just buried itself about half the diameter of the ball in mud and stuck there. No way that pitch was playable an hour earlier.

I was at my son's place at Gartcosh and there was a downpour but it did'nt last that long. The damage was done to that pitch earlier than 6:40pm

We arrived at five past seven, only to be told by a steward that the game was 'off' because the 'ball wasn't bouncing properly'-he was pissed off too because he then had to go to the car park and inform those arriving.

Given recent events and publicity and the agreement to introduce a four hour rule, this is a huge c*ck up by the S.F.A., as you suggest. Nobody else can be blamed. Will anybody get his botty smacked for this?

Naw-it was only Gretna v Morton. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-24 07:23:14
QUOTE(floydpink26 @ Jan 23 2008, 06:18 PM) [snapback]388982[/snapback]
Really...Im always of the thinking no time like the present.Well u more or less said you sit within talking distance of Dougie.Im sure if you were to introduce yourself to him and explaine that you are mortonjag,He would gladly make time for you having probs read your comments about him over the last few seasons.And now you question if he actualy supports morton..are you for real?

Im sure he could persue you for slander for questioning his loyalty to morton over the years.

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mortonjag 2008-01-24 07:24:28
QUOTE(wee mo @ Jan 23 2008, 07:40 PM) [snapback]389058[/snapback]
I don't come on to this messageboard very often although I do read it when I'm fed up sticking pins in my eyes.

I have never heard such vitriol coming from a so called professional person. Your remarks about Douglas Rae are extremely personal, and you a doctor!!!!!! How would you like to be compared to Dr Mengele or Dr Shipman?
You call yourself a supporter? What exactly is it you are supporting - certainly not Morton, more like your own ego.

I think you are forgetting that there would in all probability be no football club if it wasn't for Douglas Rae. I didn't see anyone else rushing to save the club. Give the guy a break - at least he has shown that he IS a true supporter.

Away and wachle DOCTOR Newall - thank God I'm not on your panel. You probably also believe in Euthanasia for the hard of hearing, the short sighted and women.

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mortonjag 2008-01-24 07:32:28
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jan 23 2008, 07:44 PM) [snapback]389067[/snapback]
I may have missed something MJ but what classified information appears to have been released?

GMFC have a list of the personal details of season book holders. IMO that was Russell's Muscles' source when he openly published my name and seating position.

I have lightheatedly given him the opportunity to correct me, or offer an explanation here, and have sent a polite but pointed personal message, but Russell's Muscles, who described me as 'just a mouth' has disappeared like snow of a dyke.

OK, you can argue that this is no big deal, but it seems typical of the amateurish shambles that is G.M.F.C., and I can assure you that in the real world, many an employee has been fired for a similar offence.

I imagine Mr Muscles has made his last post on our 'rag'.

Mortonjag the Spycatcher. dry.gif

mortonjag 2008-01-24 07:36:11
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jan 23 2008, 07:49 PM) [snapback]389074[/snapback]
don't you just love bluster biggrin.gif

mortonjag may be anonymous but perhaps someone recognised his high-flying brother rolleyes.gif

I doubt it-he is more anonymous than me-no dear trumpet , it's not bluster, it's about another smart arsed shooglyphile who hasn't been as smart as he imagined, and now hasn't even got the balls to stand up for himself. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-24 07:40:56
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jan 23 2008, 08:05 PM) [snapback]389095[/snapback]
surely no-one can really be this much of a p***k. i would count how many times mentaljag has lauded himself in the course of this thread but i don't have a couple of hours to spare.

maybe he should get a virtual gold star - the very, very first wee boy in the whole wide world who thought the morton manager was pish.

Just listen to Mortonjag sonny boy-you'll not go wrong! He predicted what would happen with JM, Rae, and Mileson.

I'll take your wee gold star for the monkey-he likes those things, and in return the 90% of muppets who tore me to shreds relentlessly on all three issues for two and more seasons can sook on a big widden spoon. sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-24 07:50:23
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jan 24 2008, 07:43 AM) [snapback]389362[/snapback]
I think the fact that you have sub-labeled your thread 'absolute bollocks', just about sums up this content.

Fair enough criticising his ability, but no way can you criticise his passion for the club or desire to see Morton succeed.

If Hitler, Mussolini et al spring to mind then I'd suggest you check out this site... All Knowledge in the World.

Hmmm sytematic ethnic cleansing v poor running of a football club? Yeah, suppose there really isn't much of a difference.

Rae is a benign dictator in my book-that was quite clearly the nature of the slightly tongue in cheek comparison, as I'm sure most posters with half a brain have already surmised.

I have stated nowhere that Mr Rae does not have passion for the club, and if he doesn't desire to see it succeed, he should be shot.

What I have tried to highlight is that the man's ego and personality have now made him a liability-in that respect I am questioning his ability, so we are in agreement on this issue.
mortonjag 2008-01-24 07:57:35 IMHO Jay Shields could have done a competent job at right back, AND he gave 100% effort throughout a game.

Can it be that guys with baws don't fit in at this club-but keep in with the powers that be and you're on easy street it seems! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-24 08:00:44 No doubt Alibi can enlighten us-I expect the safety certificate refers to the S.P.L., so maybe there is a loophole.
mortonjag 2008-01-24 08:06:10
QUOTE(McCauley87 @ Jan 23 2008, 08:07 PM) [snapback]389098[/snapback]
I could be completely wrong here but do they not call it something like "dogging" up somewhere in or around Paisley?

Correct-in Pishley one 'dogs' school.
mortonjag 2008-01-24 08:07:41 Having a square meal?
mortonjag 2008-01-24 08:09:33 So long ago I'd forgotten, but Sheena Easton used to baby sit for us!
mortonjag 2008-01-24 08:11:52 The Beatles success speaks for itself-they had that something extra that only comes around once in a while. Mind you I'd rather listen to the Stones (well most of the time).
mortonjag 2008-01-24 10:01:26
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 24 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]389388[/snapback]
What pissed me off last night was listening to the so called pundits on the radio going on about how the postponement was going to cause havoc with the old firm fixtures, these people live in a football bubble and don't give a toss about the fans of teams like Morton and Gretna who spent a lot of money for nothing last night.
If this was a Rangers v Celtic game that was cancelled an hour before kick/off then we would still be hearing and reading about this time next year.

Indeed-when we got back to the car and tuned into Rado Scotland (from Ibrox), you'd have thought the first thing they'd have done on the programme was to warn fans that our game was off, but NO-they had to rabbit on about Rangers v E Stirling first. Mind you it was interesting to hear 'Cowboy' on the wireless-he sounds as if he knows the business.
mortonjag 2008-01-24 11:00:16
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jan 24 2008, 10:37 AM) [snapback]389409[/snapback]
I'm think you sit directly behind me, as I heard an old guy refer to Iain Russell as "leafy" once I'm sure.

If you're serious, p.m. me with your stand seat number, and I'll happily let you shake the hand of this deranged old fool! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-24 13:28:38
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Jan 24 2008, 01:24 PM) [snapback]389442[/snapback]
Used to be dogging the school in bourtreehill, but that was nearly 25 years ago.

I've heard plugging, plunking, skidging, skiving, and dogging, and those have all been in what used to be Renfrewshire and Lanarkshire-must be dozens more throughout the country.
mortonjag 2008-01-24 13:32:12
QUOTE(Tooth & Nail @ Jan 24 2008, 01:26 PM) [snapback]389444[/snapback]
EXCLUSIVE NEWS:

Our Scottish Cup fourth-round replay against Gretna will now go ahead at Palmerston Park, home of Queen of the South, on Monday 28th January, at 7.45pm.

If we lose, and we won't, Gretna will give up home advantage and play their fifth-round tie against Queen of the South at Palmerston Park on Saturday, 2nd February.

The Motherwell v Dundee fifth-round tie will take place at Fir Park, Motherwell, on Saturday 2nd February.

They should just play the bloody thing at Cappielow for all the difference it will make-now 27 poor bumpkins have to traipse to Dumfries from Gretna when they've only just mastered the road to Motherwell.
mortonjag 2008-01-24 14:13:05
QUOTE(aimlesswanderer @ Jan 24 2008, 02:09 PM) [snapback]389481[/snapback]
In the first ten minutes of Sportsound they spoke to Murdo McLeod and Bill Leckie (their commentary team from Fir Park) as well as Davie Irons and Jim McInally. Though it was ridiculous that the one-sided gubbing at Ibrox would have been their main commentary game even if our game had gone ahead.

That's right but the point I'm making is that many hundred Ton fans were still in cars/buses when the programme started-I feel an immediate announcement should have been made, but they dallied about with the Ibrox lot for two or three minutes first!
mortonjag 2008-01-24 14:17:13 Ask the f*ckin' SFA-they're sure to have an answer reason excuse lie waiting for you.

Maybe Mr Mileson's been buying Gordon Smith free fish suppers!
mortonjag 2008-01-24 17:41:56 Mr Muscles-you haven't replied to my posts or p.m. I'm fascinated to know who you are, and exactly what your position is in the pecking order at Cappielow.

C'mon now-don't be shy-after all you weren't coy about revealing MY personal details to all and sundry.

There again, if you're a chip off the Maister's block, you probably think you can do exactly what you please to the scummy fans, and walk away unscathed.

Well-WHO ARE YOU-and more to the point, if you're revealing the fans' personal details on here, what else are you doing with them? mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-24 20:29:54
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jan 24 2008, 08:07 PM) [snapback]389803[/snapback]
cheers for clearing that one up for me, always wondered where it derived from!

My uncle was from Tiree and Gaelic was his first language, but he always used expressions like 'Come ben', or 'He's ben the room'.
mortonjag 2008-01-24 20:54:31 You'd think the SFA would be doing there damdest to make it difficult for the biggest joke in Scottish football in all history. Instead, they seem to be pandering to a shower of short sighted fools at Gretna.

The bumpkins' home ground is currently Fir Park-if they can't have their ground ready for the tie, the advantage should be ours.

F*cking outrageous, and I've told them so in no uncertain terms.
mortonjag 2008-01-24 21:13:24
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Jan 24 2008, 09:02 PM) [snapback]389841[/snapback]
Takes one to know one!

Anyway, your little article is far to0 inflammatory to be taken seriously, I mean for a start I've heard that Hitler didn't even like sweeties, so that comparison falls down there and then.

I honestly believes that DDFR is in this venture purely for the love of the club and has been since the start and no doubt for a little ego massaging from time to time, but that's fair enough and I am not one to get so riled up as to post a topic about the witterings of an old chap in a programme every other week. Let him have his 15 minutes.

I think the vast, vast majority of people concerned with the club realise that it could be run better than it is at the moment and this messageboard has highlighted numerous deficiencies and failings of the club over the past 5 or 6 years. But a lot of good things have also happened to the club during that period:
-Pitch relayed and excellent ground-staff employed
-Pitch covers bought so that every game can be played (unlike last night!)
-Both stands re-roofed with new floodlights
-Cowshed partially seated and new toilets and snack bar at the back
-About £2-300,000 in transfer fees spent (albeit not on ideal targets, but spent nonetheless)
-Excellent training facility (our own)
-And most importantly for the fans, 2 Championships.

Alright it has taken time for the promotion back to the First Division, but DDFR has certainly not taken us backwards and in no way has any intention of selling us down the river.

He has his flaws in terms of communication and delegating and generally just being a little old (no offence MJ! wink.gif ) perhaps to run a football club successfully. It would be nice if in the next year or so somebody was appointed to take over the day to day running of the club, and I for one would not mind if DDFR was still chairman but in title only.

I like the spin!

I've no intention of spoiling it by pointlessly arguing with the positives, but nothing alters the fact that we currently appear to be going backwards, that play offs seem to be looming, that signing targets are never hit, that crowds are down, that previously patient fans are baying for the manager's head, and that Mr Rae appears to chunter on blissfully unaware that he's now undoing all his previous good work.
mortonjag 2008-01-24 21:24:09
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Jan 24 2008, 09:06 PM) [snapback]389843[/snapback]
Absolutely agree, I was making the point though that the couple of hundred pounds a week that Jay would have made could probably run a youth set-up from week to week, or certainly employ somebody, or even a couple part-time!

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FFS, you've just been extolling Shoogly's virtues in another post. If he'd instituted a proper youth set up from the word go, (at relatively minimal cost), similar to what Hamilton have done so successfully, the first team would probably be sorting itself out by now AND we might just have landed one or two decent transfer fees!
mortonjag 2008-01-24 21:30:44 Some Ton fans may be, but I like to think that the real reason for supporting Morton in favour of the OF is intelligence.

What do you imagine is the average IQ on a Parkhead or Ibrox bound bus leaving Inverclyde-probably 20 points lower than that of a Ton crowd!

BTW, for once, I'm not being provocative-I genuinely think that most of that lot are thicker than treacle.
mortonjag 2008-01-24 22:07:47
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 24 2008, 09:55 PM) [snapback]389878[/snapback]
i know the club is wrong, and the game shouldnt be played there. but you cant blame their fans for it, which is the point im making. and that me as a morton fan isnt more important than a gretna fan as a gretna fan, just because together there is more of us. even if theres only 30 gretna fans, they dont pay to see them using monopoly money....they work hard all week to be able to follow their team.

Sorry, but I can't agree-Mileson sold them down the Solway by being unprepared for the SPL. They were happy enough to gloat when they 'cheated' us out of promotion with his filthy lucre, so as far as I'm concerned they have to take the bad with the good.
mortonjag 2008-01-24 22:12:51
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jan 24 2008, 07:40 PM) [snapback]389782[/snapback]
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Aye DE but it's amazing how many bodies can be crammed into a transit van! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-24 22:17:14
QUOTE(dmc @ Jan 24 2008, 09:42 PM) [snapback]389867[/snapback]
Do you have any idea how sad that is? laugh.gif

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It's a damned sight more intelligent than traipsing half way around the town, surely!
mortonjag 2008-01-24 22:57:31
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 24 2008, 10:34 PM) [snapback]389907[/snapback]
they did not cheat us out of promotion, we had our chance to be promoted and blew it against peterhead.

gretna's money won them the league that year, just as our money won us the league last year. celtics money won them the league last year, man utds money won them the league last year, real madrids money won them the league last year, inter milans money won them the league last year, portos money won them the league last year.

the list goes on and on, its the way football works.

Aye they did! The differential between Mileson's spending and ours that year was unprecedented in any other Scottish season I can remember, and the bonuses the players were receiving were enormous. I did use the term 'cheat'-I didn't say they broke any rules, and , sure, money talks, but they've had their 'day in the sun', and as far as I'm concerned they can string Pony Tail up, or feed him to the nearest combine harvester. He's ultimately offered nothing to Scottish football, let alone the Gretna fans.
mortonjag 2008-01-24 23:04:42
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 24 2008, 10:57 PM) [snapback]389928[/snapback]
Have always said tatties blink.gif

We used to sing this in primary school in the Port

Doh re me, when ah wis wee ah used to peel the tatties
but noo ahm big, an ah can dig an ah can kiss the lassies.
mortonjag 2008-01-24 23:09:53
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jan 24 2008, 11:03 PM) [snapback]389932[/snapback]
I'm sorry, you're right.

I think Rae should gas the lot of them (see MortonJag's post)


Recent 15% hike in gas prices-nae chance-Shoogly's more likely to drown them in a vat of boiling sugar, and produce yet another variety of his world famous toffees.
mortonjag 2008-01-24 23:22:12
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 24 2008, 11:12 PM) [snapback]389939[/snapback]
Can the monkey go in too? wink.gif

The monkey's allergic to sugar-it would bring him out in a rash.
mortonjag 2008-01-24 23:33:21
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 24 2008, 11:06 PM) [snapback]389935[/snapback]
so someone actually put money into scottish football, how dare he. it wasnt just gretna he gave money too, he paid for berwicks supporters club to stay open and donated to lots of other clubs.

apart from getting the whole world interested in the scottish cup when gretna got to the final. yeah their bubble may be bursting now but im sure it was fun for them while it lasted.

miles brookson and gretna have offered more to scottish football in the last few years than dougie rae and morton have.

the moment i start to feel annoyed when someone has the audacity to put money into scottish football is the moment i decide to stop watching scottish football.

Mileson's glory trip makes Dougie Rae look like Carnegie, and to describe his ludicrously ill thought out shennanigans as 'Putting money into Scottish football' is generous to a fault.

Sure, some have benefitted briefly, but the whole Gretna FC farce has become transparent, and there will be much weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth when he finally and inevitably pulls the plug!
mortonjag 2008-01-24 23:36:39
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 24 2008, 11:26 PM) [snapback]389945[/snapback]
Would you be supporting the rash about a week later? blink.gif ohmy.gif

That's puzzled me-the point is the monkey's not going in-FFS he can't even swim.
mortonjag 2008-01-24 23:37:49
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jan 24 2008, 11:34 PM) [snapback]389949[/snapback]
Not before they gub us

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mortonjag 2008-01-24 23:51:25
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jan 24 2008, 11:32 PM) [snapback]389947[/snapback]
Yep Totties it is

Always remember my mum telling me years ago when loads of Greenock women left on buses for Ayrs***e to pick the Totties. They made a few bob doing that years back. She took my older bro down for the day and he lasted 2 hours then went a walk lol

Chambers' dictionary has 'tattie' as a'potato,and 'tottie' as 'a very small child'-mind you we did talk about 'tottie howkers'-maybe an early form of paedophile.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 00:04:26
QUOTE(dmc @ Jan 24 2008, 11:59 PM) [snapback]389960[/snapback]
f***in' hell am I dead???? ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

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Nope-you read correctly, and I'll always give credit where I believe it's due! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-25 00:06:09 unsure.gif wacko.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-25 00:22:19 Quote---'Wuld you be Anyone who makes 13,000 posts in just over two years is bound to make the odd valid point. This said, the vast majority of his posts were pursuing an anti-DDF agenda that most people found boring. Given that he accidentally outed himself in late November, I doubt we'll see another post from him - unless he adopts a new alias to pursue his personal vendetta against the Chairman. Good riddance I say' (Smithston)


Quote--- 'Well said that man'! smile.gif (Russell's Muscles)


laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif Accidentally 'outed' myself!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


Well Mr Muscles-yer mate was a wee bit premature I guess-do you think we'll ever see YOU again-I bet Shoogly will ram a giant Fudgy Wudgy up yer arse if he hears you've been publicising confidential club information.

Would you be at all offended if I described you as a sycophantic snake? wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-25 00:38:32
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 25 2008, 12:32 AM) [snapback]389968[/snapback]
donga broon and puggsy broon

doesn't matter a f*** what chamber's dictionary says! do they have an inverclyde dialect section?

Of course it matters-Chambers has always been a Scottish dictionary and incorporates the most commonly used dialect words (which you won't get in the Oxford for example).

All I'm pointing out is that 'tattie' is recognised AS a Scottish dialect word, whereas 'tottie'is not.

I've agreed with your point-we used both terms in Inverclyde.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 00:40:35
QUOTE(ian clinging @ Jan 25 2008, 12:12 AM) [snapback]389965[/snapback]
Morton shouldn't have agreed to switch of tie. Agreed even with mortonjag!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

laugh.gif It's becoming far too common, my old friend-I'm obviously losing my touch!
mortonjag 2008-01-25 00:43:26
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jan 25 2008, 12:40 AM) [snapback]389971[/snapback]
Whooooaaaaaa there MJ, we bit below the belt my friend

It wasn't meant to offend-howking simply means 'picking up', and I believe that's what those unsavoury characters attempt to do.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 07:21:36 Scary stuff this is becoming-if we play as against Gretna-fine-if we repeat our last two league performances, not only will it be the final straw for many, but I guess JM must leave. It's entirely in the players hands IMO, and I don't care what anybody says otherwise, the stories of a united squad, right behind the Manager are wearing VERY thin.

The monkey has tossed a coin-the verdict-we secure an honourable 1-1 draw, with the much maligned Leafy finally scoring a true striker's goal! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-25 07:22:46
QUOTE(CraigoTON @ Jan 25 2008, 02:01 AM) [snapback]389991[/snapback]
keep the faith...

I did in August!!! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-25 07:27:58
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jan 25 2008, 03:19 AM) [snapback]389999[/snapback]
As mentioned earlier - "Slice" is strictly an Inverclyde term, and I really can't understand why. It just seems far more fitting than "square sausage" or "lorne sausage".

And "skidging" - a fine word.
And..."at the end of the day". Really, what on earth does the end of the day have to do with anything???

Aye 'slice' has produced the basis for many a square meal!!!

'Square' meal is derived from the square tables with raised edges used on the old sailing ships to prevent the plates slipping off in stormy weather, BTW.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 07:32:50
QUOTE(mortonxno1 @ Jan 24 2008, 10:23 PM) [snapback]389896[/snapback]
I take serious offence to that, as i am a Rangers supporter but also a Morton Supporter. Last season my seasopn ticket was valid for Ibrox, but I attended most Morton Home and Away Matches, compared with Rangers.



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One of my sons is in the same sad predicament-I haven't a clue why he went over to the dark side, and my daughter supports the Tims, but she's inherited her mother's genes.

Anyway, they both agree when pushed, that the common 5/8ths at both clubs are nothing to boast about!
mortonjag 2008-01-25 07:37:58 249 today and still going strong!


I love this verse from Holy Willie's prayer...


O Lord, Thou kens what zeal I bear,
When drinkers drink, an' swearers swear,
An' sining here, an' dancin there,
Wi great and sma';
For I am keepit by Thy fear
Free frae them a'
mortonjag 2008-01-25 08:43:32
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Jan 25 2008, 08:39 AM) [snapback]390016[/snapback]
Terry Butcher

The Herald

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He's not exactly a McLeish or Smith and of course (whisper) he's one of them, but he certainly has a good record as a bullish motivator-remember what Jack Charlton did for Ireland!

I guess it could be worse.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 09:34:44 Jimbo's potential has not been fulfilled, albeit he's still a young lad. I've always believed a decent manager could turn it around for him, but a valuation of £250,000 based on this season's form in Division 1 is totally outrageous IMHO.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 09:43:01
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jan 25 2008, 09:19 AM) [snapback]390027[/snapback]
Some people just don't get it do they? Your analogy to Hyde Park is ridiculous. The same stadium the night before hosts a game of football in the same competition with arguably a higher standard on show for £3 a head less. Work it out if you have the brains. It's three quid on top of what we paid for the first game, what many paid to travel to Motherwell on Wednesday and will also be paying to go to Dunfermline on Saturday. As the other posters have said, every penny counts for some as we don't all have the luxury of tapping our parents because we spent too much of our pocket money on Shoot Magazine.

Gretna currently play at Fir Park. They failed to have the ground in a suitable condition for the match, and now thanks to the SFA's incredible pomposity and lack of vision, Morton fans are being heavily penalised. It's got nothing to do with the cost of a one off trip to Palmerston as in a league match. I really feel the club have been very lily livered over this.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 10:44:15
QUOTE(craigeton @ Jan 25 2008, 10:30 AM) [snapback]390066[/snapback]
Totally wrong, despite what you think the players have to play to the managers instructions or tactics (or lack of them).
Which ,going on the past few games, will be to kick it hard and long, which in my opinion will be playing into Dunfermlines' hands. Unless the players can get it together themselves on the park and try to play football despite the manager shouting from the side to punt it, then hiding when we go 1 or 2 down. we are in for a rough ride.
As to stories of a united squad being behind the maneger, I haven't heard any, exactly the opposite in fact.

That is EXACTLY the point I was making, so how am I 'totally wrong'?

I may have missed something as I was off site for two months,, but I was saying in the Autumn that I felt there was unease in the dressing room, and as always was told I was spouting pish!!!
mortonjag 2008-01-25 10:49:51
QUOTE(craigeton @ Jan 25 2008, 10:36 AM) [snapback]390071[/snapback]
You guys are completely on the wrong track. Do you really think Jenkins or anyone else for that matter will make a difference? As long as we have the present management team we could sign Rooney and Ronaldo and it still wouldn't make any difference.
I've said before, any half way competent manager could have this squad of players finish in the top 5.
It would be too much to ask for a competent one.

What you seem to be saying in your last couple of posts is that, as I always suggested, we won last year in spite of the manager.

This season, as you suggest, we're not a mile away from doing 'no bad', and many posters have agreed that signing two or three seasoned professionals CAN make up for managerial incompetence, though I agree that JM should go.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 11:02:40 laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Everybody seems to see this valuation in a different light! It's funny how Jimbo can get ripped to shreds regularly (and his form hasn't been that great for quite a while) on the forum, yet as soon as a third party shows interest he's worth his weight in gold. If he's not for sale, the club simply have to say so. The figure of 1/4 million seen as a REAL valuation, is frankly a joke, but for the boy's sake, he'd be better out of here right now, as he definitely has potential.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 11:09:08
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jan 25 2008, 11:02 AM) [snapback]390092[/snapback]
It is worth pointing out that Rabbie was a monarchist-a jacobite monarchist.

At Stirling castle

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This man describes Mortonjag as a


TROLL


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mortonjag 2008-01-25 11:15:58
QUOTE(craigeton @ Jan 25 2008, 11:05 AM) [snapback]390096[/snapback]
I think we are agreeing on the same principle here, in that Macinally hasn't a clue, but it's very hard for the players to try and get it together on the park themselves with no help or instruction from the side(apart from hoof it).
I f you are at the game tomorrow just watch the dugout and you will see the only tactics he shouts are to Ryan to 'get it up the park' Whether there is a player to pass it to or not. Pathetic.

I'm at every game, and I've previously described JM as an Egyptian Mummy-what I DID notice was that at our last very low point (the away match with Dundee) he was blethering to God on the touchline for ten minutes before the kick-off, and during that match (the one when the other Rae was sent to the stand) JM was jumping about all over the place and bellowing instructions to the players.

It's extremely incongruous to say the least, but I'm convinced Shoogly spelled it out that day, and tomorrow's going to be a similar scenario, NOT that I think it will make much difference either way.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 11:19:35
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jan 25 2008, 11:11 AM) [snapback]390100[/snapback]
what would you say is a fair valuation of him?

That's the problem Greacen-on current form (barring a couple of decent recent matches) I'd not put him over £75,000.

That said, a club with vision, who have watched the boy over the last few years might reasonably offer twice that, and if I were Rae, I'd take it.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 11:22:20
QUOTE(craigeton @ Jan 25 2008, 11:18 AM) [snapback]390107[/snapback]
On your first point, no I'm not saying that, he and the players won the league and I give them the credit for that.

On the second point I disagree as I have said before we have a good enough playing staff for a top 5 finish.
I am not saying we couldn't use some more good players.
Take the signing of McGuffie, personally I don't think he was any better than what we had, but since he came into the team he hasn't been allowed to play because of the route one football we are trying to play. Jenkins would be the same, what is the point in having a team loaded with midfield players, then bypass them with hoof it tactics.
I could understand him playing this long ball crap if we were getting results but someone should tell him we aren't.

Macinallys' time at Morton is finished, I don't think he can do anymore unfortunately he doesn't seem to think so and neither does Rae. Unless Macinally goes of his own accord I think he's here for as long as he wants to be.

No way-Rae will inevitably punt him to 'save face' if matters don't improve.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 11:37:53
QUOTE(centralTON @ Jan 25 2008, 11:35 AM) [snapback]390113[/snapback]
MJ, like craigeton, i hope you are right, but, will this be too late to salvage anything from the season? If Dundee hadn't scored in the 90th min on Saturday we'd already be second bottom having played a game more than Clyde.

The fortunate thing is that we're not adrift of the pack. I've not been getting enough abuse recently, so I'll suggest that if we brought in a decent manager and three experienced players right now we could finish in the first three!
mortonjag 2008-01-25 11:42:13
QUOTE(craigeton @ Jan 25 2008, 11:23 AM) [snapback]390110[/snapback]
I wasn't at that game, personally I thought our last low point was the Livi game but I'm nitpicking here as there has been so many lately.
I'm not sure I know what you mean by 'Shoogly spelled it out that day'.

Just what I said-we had come off a very poor run, and prior to the game JM and Shoogly were deep in conversation-I remember saying to my brother-'That's a piece of nonsense-the manager should be with his players'-then-as I described, JM came out and jumped about like a bloody Jack in the Box-totally out of character.

I thought at the time that Rae may well have issued some kind of ultimatum.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 11:54:23
QUOTE(El gofer @ Jan 25 2008, 11:25 AM) [snapback]390112[/snapback]
So you think the club should undersell one of the only player assets we have?
As Rodder said, this guy is not even an agent. A provocateur maybe but not an agent.

I would have been raging if Rae had come out with a figure lower than £150000. Ross McCormack for £3M? Obviously Motherwell wont get that but their starting position is aimed to make sure that they get the best deal.

We are under no pressure to sell Jim. Does this guy Callaghan speak for him? If so then it sounds like he wants to go. If not then the guy is a charlatan who is chasing the money and unsettling our player.

Def do not want him to go just now. If he wants to go then we wait til the summer.

TBH I think Jimbo was showing himself as a much better asset one and a half seasons ago when Warnock was sniffing around. Of course I don't want to lose him, but I sense that the boy 's ready to move on, and maybe the best thing for all would be for the club to cut its losses and accept a reasonable figure. To be frank, I DON'T see him improving much under the current regime.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 11:58:44
QUOTE(hartleyhare @ Jan 25 2008, 11:35 AM) [snapback]390114[/snapback]
So you advocate selling on a quality first team player at a time of difficulty but are critical (on other threads) because we are not bringing in quality?

I am critical because we are not bringing in EXPERIENCED professionals who can motivate the others.

McAlister has many admirable qualities, but like Harding, Russell, and a couple of others, he frequently looks totally devoid of ideas, and the final product is often a huge disappointment. Those young boys all need guidance on the pitch-guidance they're definitely not getting from the dugout.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 12:09:13
QUOTE(stu_1874 @ Jan 25 2008, 12:02 PM) [snapback]390130[/snapback]
so did anyone email them? and if so, any replies yet?

Aye---and


NO!!!
mortonjag 2008-01-25 12:11:33
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Jan 25 2008, 12:06 PM) [snapback]390131[/snapback]
When he was playing against lesser players - this is his (and the other players) 1st season in a higher division, I for one think he will continue to improve and we should be trying to keep our best players (and strengthen) not get shot of them.

As I've said, I don't hold out much hope for real improvement under the present regime-in another scenario I'd totally agree.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 12:15:35
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 25 2008, 11:58 AM) [snapback]390126[/snapback]
I'm away to pipe at an old folks home.

I'm getting paid but I still class it as a good deed as the place is totally miserable!!!!

So I'm getting into heaven if I get hit by a truck within the next month (as long as I don't cancel it out). smile.gif

That's not PC any more young man! wink.gif

Anyhow, why do you describe those bustling and vibrant edifices, crammed as they are with the cream of the country's wisdom and experience, as 'miserable'? ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-25 12:19:00
QUOTE(tontric @ Jan 25 2008, 12:17 PM) [snapback]390141[/snapback]
Noticed that Roy Carroll is trying to secure his release from Rangers but Mr Smith is preventing this until he can sort out backup for McGregor.

I don't know how Robinson's loan deal has been structured but could this mean he is recalled? If so this leaves us without a sub keeper.

Young Robinson's miles away from SPL football at the moment IMO.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 12:38:25
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jan 25 2008, 12:31 PM) [snapback]390155[/snapback]
Yip, Rae's over 50 so maybe he can get a discount on a holiday.

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On the Titanic?
mortonjag 2008-01-25 12:40:32
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 25 2008, 12:38 PM) [snapback]390160[/snapback]
i stopped reading after " Daily Star "

jim's representative is probably the coffee boy at the newspaper.

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Coffee boy at the 'STAR'

Something not quite right there! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-25 12:59:54
QUOTE(Davy B Ton @ Jan 25 2008, 12:57 PM) [snapback]390175[/snapback]
Aye it's proper pelting it down here in Edinburgh and all. If it stays like this tomorrow I'd imagine the game would be off.

Does East End Park flood easily-I remember well the last game we played there-it was pissing down but the pitch wasn't too bad. There's no risk of overnight frost anyway, according to the forecast.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 13:17:01
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jan 25 2008, 01:09 PM) [snapback]390184[/snapback]
id say he's the only player who doesnt get ott abuse.

He get's off pretty lightly most of the time because of his work rate and attitude, but there was a spell not so long ago when he was the victim of quite a few nasty remarks, and the truth is that despite all his good points, Jimbo has had several longish spells when he's been completely 'off the boil'.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 13:29:15
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 25 2008, 01:12 PM) [snapback]390185[/snapback]
I agree.

All things being equal I'd say his valuation's maybe a quarter of that on present form, but we're in a position where we need to hold onto our assets unless we get a huge offer.

On a quite unrelated note, I'd love to see the agent find a Premiership regular for £250,000.

I've been musing for some time about the economics of splashing some cash on a real entertainer, and before everybody starts asking 'Who and for how much?', I can't really provide an answer.

I do, however, know that the current crowds are WELL short of expectation-even boosting the average by 500 per game would net us some £150-200,000 over the course of a season. Let's face it people come to get some excitement, and a 'name' will always pull in the floaters.

Russell Latapy springs to mind-surely Falkirk wouldn't bust our bank for a guy who has probably run his course at SPL level but is still great to watch, and there must be others in the same mould.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 13:48:00
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 25 2008, 01:32 PM) [snapback]390198[/snapback]
Davie Hopkin and Alan Mahood? biggrin.gif

Aye-linked together inside a pantomime horse-that would give us a laugh-no I was thinking more of somebody in the Andy Ritchie category-I'm sure you must know what I'm driving at-how many of the current squad 'entertain'? I'd suggest that since Cowboy hung up his chaps, the standard of football-as a spectacle-produced for us has got worse and worse.

Are there no entertainers left in the game, barring the comedians with whistles?
mortonjag 2008-01-25 13:52:25
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 25 2008, 01:16 PM) [snapback]390187[/snapback]
And the rest of what I said was? tongue.gif

Head chef was going off his nut because the 2 big haggis' for the addressing he had got from his butcher were aboslutely rancid. Smell was awful, and this was coming fom 3 guys who really enjoy haggis. The smell when the guy sliced into it was dire!

He was lucky he had bought tinned stuff incase of any emergencies so the residents will get their supper. And one butcher will be getting a sever bollocking!



I can but sympathise with their culinary angst!

I should suggest as punishment for the blundering butcher that he be forced to stand naked before the big open fire, where the residents may applaud while his Rabbie burns.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 14:30:25
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jan 25 2008, 02:14 PM) [snapback]390213[/snapback]
Your point is, caller? wink.gif.....

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mortonjag 2008-01-25 14:34:33
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Jan 25 2008, 02:04 PM) [snapback]390207[/snapback]
whoo hoo reply and safe to say not much cop.

Good morning Stevie

Thank you for your email the contents of which have been noted.

The move to change match venue was taken with full co-operation of the
clubs involved and with the best of intentions with the supporters,
players and match officials safety paramount . I do appreciate your
frustrations however.

Thanks again for taking the trouble to write.

Best wishes
Anne Arthur
Matches Department
0141 616 6039
anne.arthur@scottishfa.co.uk

Coming from the 'matches department' it's not too inflammatory-I've had no reply to mine-maybe I should have been more discreet, but I didn't imagine a lady would be reading it-maybe the SFA IS starting to move out of the ice age!
mortonjag 2008-01-25 14:44:59
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jan 25 2008, 02:32 PM) [snapback]390218[/snapback]
Aside from him being an absolute failure as a manager everywhere he has been.

Burns should always be our assistant manager, he is the best coach that Scotland has ever had.

*note* I said coach.

How do you define 'absolute failure'-McLeish wasn't perceived as an 'absolute success' at Ibrox, but still got the top job, and Butcher's only second fiddle.

Quite honestly, if the guy was identical in every way, but also Scottish, I bet most fans would be creaming their pants with pleasure.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 15:06:09
QUOTE(centralTON @ Jan 25 2008, 02:51 PM) [snapback]390226[/snapback]
I've posted this elsewhere, but, i looked at the bench on Saturday at 2-0 down and there was no one we could bring on to change things up front for us.

Weatherson - lack of interest
Russell - lack of quality
Graham - lack of experience

There are no other strikers at the club.

As I too posted elsewhere, we have only TWO forwards listed now in the official squad. Surely that's a record for a first division club!
mortonjag 2008-01-25 15:18:53
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 25 2008, 03:06 PM) [snapback]390233[/snapback]
Nah, I see what you're saying - in a way Andy McLaren was one of those, and for a while it worked out.

That's true-it doesn't take too much to get the 'feel good' factor back. I've often said that if Andy had arrived two or three games earlier, we'd have gone up that season. You're too young to remember but any of the older fans will confirm that in the Hal Stewart era, there was nearly always one, and sometimes two players in a side whom the punters were literally going to watch-Ritchie is the prime example, and McGraw was a huge crowd puller too. I remember when individual odds on scoring were rare, the bookies were offering a price against him netting the first goal against Celtic at Cappielow. Derek McInnes, in his own way, became something of a local hero.

My personal favourite as a youngster was Erik Sorensen-how often do folks go to matches those days to watch the goalie? He was just so different from anything I'd ever seen, and even in the days of a much heavier match ball, he could throw it to a colleague almost on the half way line with power and accuracy.He also saved the first six or seven consecutive penalties against us, and in those days the goalie could not move until the ball was struck.

Aye-entertainment brings in the money!
mortonjag 2008-01-25 15:30:54
QUOTE(smitz @ Jan 25 2008, 03:26 PM) [snapback]390240[/snapback]
well if someone is big enough to try attack you they are big enough to have a few volts fired through them.

It wont kill them anyway, not unless they are prone to major organ failure.

Ill buy it off you if you dont want it! ;-)

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mortonjag 2008-01-25 15:35:17
QUOTE(centralTON @ Jan 25 2008, 03:28 PM) [snapback]390241[/snapback]
Also, as we both posted elsewhere, we could do a lot worse than stick big Greacen up front. He would at least make an effort to win the ball in the air and would be less of a liability than he can be defensively.
My son is adamant that Greacen started out as a center forward, apologies if wrong.

I'm pretty sure I've heard that before too. Stu's greatest asset is that he rarely loses a header where he's been able to time his run-he could be a bloody menace as a sub against a tiring defence-provided that is, that anybody had the guile to play the correct balls in for him.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 16:03:52
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jan 25 2008, 03:46 PM) [snapback]390255[/snapback]
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He must be because every time a Jim McAlister to Motherwell story appears it's in the Daily Star.
I watched him play in the reserves regularly in the season we signed him and I've rated him highly since.

I've been to every game this season - the vast majority depressing - and almost every match I've thought thank god for Jim McAlister (as well as Chris Millar since he came back into the team). He has talent but like any winger can be inconsistent. He is hungry, determined and always gives 100% which can't be said for some of the players who are thought to be more talented than Jim. For me he is Morton's best player and the one we could make most money from. �250,000 seems a bit much but we aren't in any need to sell and I hope we don't so we can watch Jim progress at Cappielow.

It's not just his inconsistency that's been frustrating me recently, it's his desperation to lay the ball off when he'd be better having a go himself-that and the fact that when he does he 'snatches' at shots and often miscues. That said, he's a tremendous asset to the side--- but whatever gave you the notion he's a winger-you're nearly as bad as the OFFICIAL web site which lists him as a midfielder but in my book---


JIMBO WAS, IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE A





























farmer's boy.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 16:05:14
QUOTE(Jim @ Jan 25 2008, 03:52 PM) [snapback]390259[/snapback]
the man in black. first game third lanark away, didnt he save a penalty that day. not often i agree with u, but those were the days....

my friend-we thought they'd never end!!! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-25 16:13:54
QUOTE(dmc @ Jan 25 2008, 03:54 PM) [snapback]390260[/snapback]
Be very careful as weegieton says they are in fact illegal (as is pepper spray)!
You could be charged with carrying an offensive weapon!

My advice would be to get a personal alarm instead!

Can you still be charged with having an offensive person on your weapon? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-25 17:50:15
QUOTE(Kaney @ Jan 25 2008, 05:35 PM) [snapback]390307[/snapback]
Thats a bit harshly put. unsure.gif
Maybe, 'Morton fan first who has a tendency towards one of the OF because of family support/upbringing'

...or Morton fan who has a tendency towards one of the OF because he's never thought things through!
mortonjag 2008-01-25 17:54:52
QUOTE(Jim @ Jan 25 2008, 04:13 PM) [snapback]390274[/snapback]
morton3 celtic3. carl bertelson hat trick . left the game that day , had to wait till i got home to see results on tv. ref blew before ball hit the net.it should have been morton4 celtic3

That was CRIMINAL-I'll NEVER forget that 'til the day I die-he blew for full time (or so he claimed) when the ball was in mid flight, but not a single player had taken any heed-it was a perfectly good goal and should have stood.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 17:57:38
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jan 25 2008, 04:17 PM) [snapback]390280[/snapback]
I agree that his shooting is a weakness he will have to work on.

Maybe we should get more farmer's boys in. That's probably where he got his work ethic.

I'm sure it is-he just doesn't know when to stop, and for that he deserves tremendous admiration-often you see him out there, ploughing a lone furrow, while the others appear to be under the haystack fast asleep.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 18:02:39
QUOTE(gmsc-doco-1874 @ Jan 25 2008, 04:30 PM) [snapback]390285[/snapback]
rangers paid around 250k for mcinnes when we just go promoted back to the 1st divison in when he was an unproven player
with no experience at that level

though the financial state at rangers is a whole lot better

i think mcalister is capable to make the step up to the premier league

and at this present time it would be a massive loss to lose him at this point of the season when we need every at the club to help us stay up and prepare them for next season

That's not quite the story-McInnes had demonstrated precocious maturity and leadership for several years before, and had, for example, impressed players like Gascoigne. If Jimbo had Derek's leadership qualities, and a wee bit of his arrogance, he'd be twice the player he is.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 18:10:41
QUOTE(tontastic @ Jan 25 2008, 05:50 PM) [snapback]390311[/snapback]
What do you call the thing you get when you are inoculated (sp?) or given an injection? Its a leading question ... someone told me that south of the border they are given a jab...

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Someone's finally blown my cover-eh-Morton------JAG! tongue.gif

Mind you there was a lovely lady anaesthetist in the old Pishley RAI who used to say to her patients-'Don't worry, you'll just feel a little pr*ck'!
mortonjag 2008-01-25 18:45:03
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Jan 25 2008, 06:25 PM) [snapback]390331[/snapback]
You're a w**kbag.

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C'mon sonny boy that's tres pauvre from a man of your intelligence-I've not been accused of spouting pish, incontinence, dementia, homosexuality, or paedophilia for ages, nor has my sexual potency been called in question.It seems that the only thing I'm doing wrong at the moment is berating Shoogly-little does anyone realise he put me up to it just to make sure we don't forget he's still around.

It seems everybody's now agreeing with me on the major issues,and it's becoming very unsettling not having to cry myself to sleep at night.

BTW why does nobody ever mention Martin Clark-does he actually have a function at Scapa, except for picking up his monthly pay cheque? ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-25 19:08:26
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 25 2008, 07:03 PM) [snapback]390344[/snapback]
No you didn't, you were a moany old fanny then as well. rolleyes.gif

Who are you calling 'a moany old fanny' ya pays bassa?
mortonjag 2008-01-25 19:10:25
QUOTE(calton @ Jan 25 2008, 06:41 PM) [snapback]390338[/snapback]
Am I the only one who is concerned at our manager saying that we are trying a new formation at the back, as a reason for letting Jay Shields go?

It's not the letting Shields go bit, it's the new formation bit, after all since the new formation has started we have lost 11 goals in 3 games and look terrible at the back.

I would actually prefer Greacen back in defence as none of the present incumbents, attack the ball !! sad.gif

Precisely!!!!!!!!! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-25 19:14:54
QUOTE(HamCam @ Jan 25 2008, 07:07 PM) [snapback]390345[/snapback]
Right someone tell me whit the boy did to get punted huh.gif

Number of Hibbee mates asking the question.

As said when we signed him the view was he had more chance at being a jockey than a footballer. Aside from a willingness to get stuck in all the basics of the game were missing. Sad days indeed when some folk seem willing to accept this standard of player in a Morton jersey.

That's pure mince-were you once taken unexpectedly from behind by a dwarf? Shields was the best right back we've seen since Derek Collins went, and he could play a wee bit of football too-like others he was not given a proper chance to establish himself.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 19:26:28
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 25 2008, 07:11 PM) [snapback]390348[/snapback]
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Nowt wrong with being a moany old fanny BTW, it was a backhanded compliment. tongue.gif

Seriously, though, I honestly did believe we'd at least sign SOMEBODY with experience before the season started, and it's looking ominous at the moment.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 19:31:14
QUOTE(Mick @ Jan 25 2008, 06:37 PM) [snapback]390337[/snapback]
Folk from Ayrshire ARE weird.....seriously, I think I have a slight phobia about them......

Agayraphobia?
mortonjag 2008-01-25 19:38:19
QUOTE(HamCam @ Jan 25 2008, 07:26 PM) [snapback]390354[/snapback]
Not unexpectedly.

While you no doubt take pride in being the village idiot for this messageboard there is no need to continually demonstrate ignorance of all matters involving football. Perhaps next time you are watching a game you might think to open your eyes. Shields is a very limited footballer - not just my opinion but most folks who have seen him in recent years since coming through the ranks at Hibs.

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So was f*cking Johnny Boyd, but he still stuck to his task and made it very difficult for a winger. BTW Hibs play a division above us at a significantly higher level. Maybe if we had a few more 'limited footballers' who will play for the jersey and less 'hasn't fulfilled promise' shysters, we wouldn't be in the current predicament. sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-25 19:43:18
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 25 2008, 07:30 PM) [snapback]390357[/snapback]
January isn't up yet ya moany old fanny.

I cannot argue with fact!


February has not arrived either you perceptive peasant.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 20:01:38
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jan 25 2008, 07:56 PM) [snapback]390369[/snapback]
Promising double act developing here

He can be Eric.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 20:06:06
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 25 2008, 07:59 PM) [snapback]390370[/snapback]
I know where you're coming from, but this is where you can go down a very dangerous route because where do you draw the line? If it were made legal for women to carry these things and they were therefore freely available then you would immediately have the following problems.

1. The women who have them have absolutely no training in their use.
2. How do you ensure they are only used by women?
3. How do you ensure that they are only for defensive purposes? What's to stop someone getting their hands on one and using it to mug someone?

Personally I think legalising yet another potentially lethal weapon would be counter-productive. If that wasn't the case wouldn't the US states that have legal gun ownership be the safest places on the planet? All evidence suggest that the greater the availability of weapons, the higher the probability that they will be use aggressively and illegally.

Would do much more harm than good, in my opinion.

True-if women are allowed to use them, what about frail old men in mobility scooters?
mortonjag 2008-01-25 20:14:57
QUOTE(HamCam @ Jan 25 2008, 08:02 PM) [snapback]390372[/snapback]
The only way Shields made it difficult for a winger was if they tripped over him en-route to the byeline.

We can and must expect better on the park than an oompah loompah playing for the jersey.

I couldn't agree more-we must expect ambition from the Chairman and Board for a start, and please don't imagine I was touting young Shields as a potential world beater-I'm just totally pissed off with players constantly out of position because some muddle headed clown thinks you can build success from a hotch potch of inexperienced utility players.

I DON'T agree that he was nearly as bad as you suggest though. I'm not one for criticising individual players, but Weatherson was repeatedly made to look extremely sheepish when he came up against a tricky winger-aye wee Shields might have tripped or baulked him, but he was far less likely to fully commit himself to a mistimed tackle and allow him a straight run in on goal. The same scenario is prevalent on the left, where (at least in the full back position) I'd far rather see Deano than David McGregor.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 20:43:08
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 25 2008, 08:09 PM) [snapback]390377[/snapback]
I shudder to think of the consequences of an old fanny like you getting their hands on one of these things. rolleyes.gif

Your shuddering is totally justified-I'd wreak havoc on the community here-I already have 27 targets listed in my wee book.
mortonjag 2008-01-25 21:01:31
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Jan 25 2008, 08:51 PM) [snapback]390396[/snapback]
Jay Shields was let go for reasons that we will not go into on here.....he was a naughty boy (allegedly sad.gif )..enough said. McInally is only doing what any good manager would do and let the boy leave with his dignity intact and the opportunity to get another job.

You talk with authority-would it not have been better just to announce it on GMFC?
mortonjag 2008-01-25 21:12:02
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 25 2008, 08:55 PM) [snapback]390398[/snapback]
The points in January are as vital as those in February . We should have ensured that our targets ( presuming we have targets ) had arrived earlier . We need some inputise in the team to provide leadership and belief .
The thing is no single player will provide this we have problems everywhere on the park and manager I wouldn't trust to get the best out of any group of players .
I have said several times about Clark and the other coach if we have reduced the playing staff what need is there for so many coaches . If players are leaving to lessen the wage bill then it would seem economical sense to reduce the coaching staff .

Exactly Chris-as soon as a transfer window opens, there's the opportunity to start fixing things, and here we are with well nigh only six days left and nothing fixed. What have we achieved in the league during this period-zilch. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-25 21:22:44
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Jan 25 2008, 09:06 PM) [snapback]390400[/snapback]
A good hearty f*** off regards the bolded bit. Football has f*** all to do with religion to anyone who is not a complete and utter arsehole. I know what you are getting at - but people follow the OF for reason other than religion. If you put religion/gloryhunting then it would have been far more acceptable tbh.

I think everybody in this area knows what he's getting at-would it be simpler to say I follow the OF because I'm a Proddy/Tim, and I hate Tims/Proddies, or I think I do, but to be honest I've never really thought about it, though let's face it, it's f*cking good fun releasing all the tensions of modern life by hating somebody, though when it comes to individual Proddies/Tims like that wee woman next door-aye but that's different, 'cos she's awful nice.


Doh. blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-25 21:31:21
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jan 25 2008, 09:19 PM) [snapback]390404[/snapback]
What a load of complete and utter s***e.

Now, now, it depends on the individual butcher.
mortonjag 2008-01-26 06:36:20
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Jan 25 2008, 11:07 PM) [snapback]390443[/snapback]
I'm sure that may be correct but they are after all more than likely taking a cut of whatever the transfer fee/signing on fee ? If so they are basically double glazing sales man in posh frocks tongue.gif

They are usually greedy parasitic basturds.
mortonjag 2008-01-26 06:41:03
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Jan 25 2008, 11:38 PM) [snapback]390449[/snapback]
And a love-me-jacket for someone in Newlands Glesca tongue.gif

A 'love-me' jacket for Red Admiral Rae of Inverclyde, you mean.
mortonjag 2008-01-26 06:50:54
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jan 25 2008, 11:21 PM) [snapback]390444[/snapback]
I think you may find its the other way round - All of a Sudden we are trying to sign Premier league players , Dougie has been withholding the cash thats why we aint signed anyone pre season

Scott-I realise what's probably been happening recently-I always make the point that Jim hasn't got the players he needs and Rae's the stumbling block.

I'm talking about a game we played at the end of September when we'd only taken two points from the previous five matches and the natives were getting restless. Were you there-if so you know exactly what went on, and no way at that stage had the Manager 'spat the dummy'.
mortonjag 2008-01-26 06:59:03 I agree with you all, except where you say that this is what most fans want and believe is possible. Every time this topic's been raised since Rae took the reins, we've had excuse after excuse for him. I was told repeatedly last season and earlier this season that his strategy was 'consolidation' this year, whatever the f*ck that's supposed to mean.

Consolidation!

Retreat would be more appropriate-it looks like Shoogly doesn't have the balls to put real money where his mouth is.
mortonjag 2008-01-26 07:06:52
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jan 26 2008, 01:34 AM) [snapback]390474[/snapback]
That's not saying much. The only others I can think of were Bryan Slavin and David Murie and for me Murie was far better than Shields.

I was meaning since Collins went to llama land! Aye Murie was a great servant, and is still popular with the fans.
mortonjag 2008-01-26 07:12:16
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jan 25 2008, 10:38 PM) [snapback]390433[/snapback]
briiiiing me sunshine

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over to Eric!
mortonjag 2008-01-26 07:16:02
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jan 26 2008, 04:28 AM) [snapback]390493[/snapback]
If you don't him in because you think he's crap at his job then fair enough but I fail to see how being English comes into it. I don't care if we bring in an Englishman, Scotsman or Martian if they give 100% to the job and give their all for our national team.

Anyway Butcher's a decent appointment I think. Perhaps not the most tactically sound manager in the world but he'll be a good guy to have round the place I reckon. Knows how to get players playing for him.

Could Morton not sign Butcher to sort out the mince that's been served up recently?
mortonjag 2008-01-26 07:20:40
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Jan 25 2008, 09:38 PM) [snapback]390417[/snapback]
I know fine well what he was getting at. I was simply pointing out that what he states is incorrect. Yes, a lot of people follow the OF because of religious reasons but a lot of others don't. I know people that fit into both categories and inevitably the ones who follow the team for religious reason are the first ones to stop going to games when the team starts to lose and are total tools.

How do you define 'religious reasons' Bishy? That's my whole point-sure it's about bigotry and hatred, and arrogance, and ignorance, but how many of those morons are 'religious' in the true sense of the word.

IMHO all they do is choose a historical religious platform as a foundation for their clannish warmongering.
mortonjag 2008-01-26 07:26:08
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Jan 26 2008, 12:43 AM) [snapback]390464[/snapback]
It's just like Bill Gates with his 'look, I give all this money to help heal aids in Africa', when it is his, rather large, contribution to a perpetuation of a global financial system which, in great part, creates the disparities in wealth and health they try to patch up. Even if they are unaware they are doing this, and they act with the most honest of intentions, it is still their systemic violence which causes the suffering in this first place.

Rangers and Celtic could give Morton alot more then they (allegedly - this 'fact' is neither here nor there) have, but it still wouldn't erase the fact that it is the disparity that they have created which means Morton needed help with cheap material, equipment etc

Obviously on a subjective level it's not quite so simple. Mismanagement of smaller clubs, say under the Scott years, or Hearts right now, create huge problems that are to the detriment of Scottish football as a whole. But the problem is not these situations, the problem is why these situations are allowed to get so bad, and that is because of the system that Scottish football is trapped in because of the Old Firm.

We could endlessly point out reasons why the OF are a scar on Scottish football - the bigotry amongst the fans, the gloryhunters, the patronising tone towards fans of other clubs etc. But these are merely the scar, and parts of the reasons why the system Scottish football finds itself in exists.

The real problem for Scottish football is not any of the reasons usually given. The problem is that a system exists where there is a vacuum created by the Old Firm, fans and money and players are all attracted there to the detriment of all other clubs. This disparity is the reason that clubs need to spend more than they have, bring in too many foreign players, cut corners at all levels of the club, from youth development to the stadium. When all fans and money are attracted to one end (perpetuated probably mainly by certain parts of Scottish culture and those who hold sway over this) then other clubs cannot cope.

And when, at this point of being crippled by the system created by the OF, one of these clubs tries to act all nice and giving and suchlike then it is the true definition of a pointless act; an act which is negated by the very people making this act.

Nice to read a well thought out and constructed post. I think what you're driving at is that the respective OF Boards have historically been greedy 'man mind thyself c*nts', but let's be honest, they're in it to make money.
mortonjag 2008-01-26 07:57:36
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 26 2008, 07:16 AM) [snapback]390515[/snapback]
u don't think most fans want this and think it's possible? unsure.gif i think you're at it and just want to see your avatar 40 times on another 10 pager!
a long time ago sad.gif still could/should happen tho



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No forza-I agree absolutely with your sentiments, but look at what RSBH has just posted. We got the momentum going under Hal Stewart, and if we'd had proper investment at the time could easily have been in the top flight ever since, but Hal was a wheeler dealer with no personal wealth, and sadly things went pear shaped. Since then we've had a whole generation of Ton fans who've grown up in the belief and acceptance that we're a relatively 'wee' club.

Maybe I was a bit silly saying most fans don't 'want' it, but I'm sick of hearing excuses like 'We have to consolidate', 'You have to crawl before you walk', 'If we go up , we'll come straight down', 'We have to build a proper infrastructure first' etc., etc., etc. I could accept some of that if I could see us progressing even slowly, but currently we're in reverse.

Furthermore, I DO believe that a large proportion of Tonsters, if they're honest, DON'T think we can cut it in the S.P.L.

It's a well known fact that in any business start up, you're going to be in the red for quite a while, and a large proportion of new businesses fail not because they are bad ideas, but because the profits are too slow to come in, and the financial institutions lose patience.

In Morton's case Rae has put up the money himself. How does he ever imagine he'll recoup that by languishing in the lower divisions for five and more years. IF he has enough, I believe he should have gone for broke, and targeted the S.P.L from day one. That must always have been his only hope of getting a return on his investment, and it's what he used to claim was his plan, but it's gone awfully quiet on that front.

We now have a Director whose personal wealth makes Shoogly look like a church mouse-a man who could undoubtedly oversee a successful thrust for the S.P.L., but we're told he won't be putting any money in 'at this stage'. That totally mystifies me, when in the remaining six days of the transfer window, he has the opportunity to buy us within striking distance of promotion this year, and create a springboard for S.P.L status in 2009, but apparently he IS only there to 'oversee' matters.


The fact is forza, that under Rae, the fans have been treated very shabbily by a daft old man who's simply been indulging his own selfish interests. Is he incapable of seeing what's really happening to all the initial investment-a better stadium, with new floodlights, and a decent playing surface is f*ck all use in the third division!

If the old bod's train has just hit the buffers financially, I do have a certain sympathy-is Mr Donald about to save his face, and put big cheesy smiles on ours?

Who knows? The 'in word' at Scapa those days is OMERTA.
mortonjag 2008-01-26 08:40:37
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jan 26 2008, 06:54 AM) [snapback]390507[/snapback]
This season is the first season I can honestly say I've been looking towards a game with no hope in hell of us winning.

Dunfermline by two goals at least and I doubt we'll score

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Just picked this off the Pars Website:


After two consecutive defeats Jim McIntyre and his team will be desperate to get their recovery back on track. Morton are the visitors and although they won on their last trip to West Fife they have only won once since the beginning of December. That solitary win was against foot of the table Stirling at New Year but those who made the trip to Cappielow on Boxing Day will recall how hard they made it for Macca's men to win 1-0 that day sad.gif

If I re-call, both sides were absolute crap that day!!!
mortonjag 2008-01-26 08:47:09
QUOTE(se65an @ Jan 26 2008, 08:37 AM) [snapback]390525[/snapback]
http://www.pieandbovril.com/forum/index.ph...t&p=2172173

Who is this? Found this on P&B
Morton Fans go to the High Court.

A group of Morton fans have made contact with a Glasgow advocate today in the hope that they can get Monday’s cup clash with Gretna stopped. The fans plan to ask a High Court judge for an injunction to stop the game going ahead as the SFA have broken their own rules.
13. Grounds for Ties

Notwithstanding anything which is contained in Rule 11 if a club notifies the Association that it is unable to play a Cup match at its registered ground as detailed in the Official Return
(Rule 6 refers) for whatever reason and the Board is satisfied of the validity of such reason, the match shall be played at the nearest registered ground of equivalent capacity which in the opinion of the Board is most suitable for the occasion. If a replay should be necessary, it will take place at the ground of its opponents.
Gretna's registered ground is Fir Park Stadium, Motherwell.

Raydale does not, in the eyes of the regulations, exist at all.
To clarify therefore:

- Palmerston Park does not have 13,000 seats

- Gretna, under SPL regulations, are not permitted to use standing

accommodation at all

- Palmerston Park is not the nearest ground to Fir Park Stadium, Motherwell
They are incensed at the attitude shown to the fans both for the postponed Fir Park clash and the fact that the SFA are disregarding their own rule book.

A highly regarded maverick advocate is willing to represent them free of charge and will make representation to the High Court on Monday
A number of fans recently contacted the local Greenock Telegraph to voice their disgust at the actions of the SFA and are willing to take them on at the High Court.

Many of the fans wasted money travelling to the game and travel clubs with pre booked buses had to pay for the privilege of turning around in Glasgow and going back to Inverclyde after the game was cancelled with only an hour

to go before kick off.
With the fixture backlog already a problem Monday’s day in court will not be readily anticipated by the administrators at Hampden.

Granting of the fans injunction could throw the Scottish Cup fixtures into complete disarray .



Posted by 'Big Tam 59' of Spammers United Sean-I'd take it with a pinch of salt!
mortonjag 2008-01-26 08:49:32
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jan 26 2008, 08:37 AM) [snapback]390524[/snapback]
McKenzie's the Butchers could get that lot playing better than McInally

Aye but only Rae can give him the chop.
mortonjag 2008-01-26 08:59:03 Weather forecast for Dunfermline is light rain, 7degrees C, and 22 m.p.h. winds, with no news of a planned pitch inspection. Can we therefore safely assume that the game will not be called off 'til five minutes before kick off? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-26 09:20:30 Gilmour and St Mirren ready to take final steps
GRAEME MACPHERSON January 26 2008

It is a good time to be a St Mirren fan and an even better one to be their chairman. Little wonder then that Stewart Gilmour, who falls into both categories, wears the look of a satisfied man as he surveys the position the Paisley club find themselves in at the start of a transitional year.

On the pitch, Gus MacPherson's side lie in ninth position in the Clydesdale Bank Premier League and, barring a horrific collapse or a Gretna revival to rival Lazarus, seem set to ensure top-flight football for the third season in succession. Off the pitch, the club has cleared its debt of around £2m and is preparing to move to a new 8000-seater stadium less than a mile from their Love Street ground. Stability and then prosperity, however, have not been achieved overnight.

When Gilmour became chairman in 1998 he inherited a financial mess. An earlier regime had spent excessively to try in vain to maintain Premier League status in the early 1990s - paying players like Steve Archibald and Victor exorbitant wages for little return - and the club has spent the best part of the following two decades trying to regain a financial even keel. Gilmour makes it clear the boom and bust mentally has been consigned to the past.


"The club is probably in the best state financially since about 1990 when they were throwing their Scottish Cup money about after the success in 1987 and the Ian Ferguson transfer to Rangers in 1988," he said. "We are now on a much sounder financial footing. Getting rid of the debt and moving to a new stadium is a fresh start.

"What we must ensure is that the club is never allowed to get sucked into that error again of gambling, where you spent a lot of money with no guarantee. The amount of money they the previous board gambled on players in the 1990s was ridiculous and everyone had to pay for it. We're working from a far more solid foundation now. If you look back to where we were at the start of 2007 then the squad is better, the whole financial side of the club has improved, we've no debt and we've got a general manager who is running the club on a day-to-day basis. We're moving forward but at a pace that is controllable. If you try to go big quickly it can all go horribly wrong. That's not going to happen again."

The fallout from that financial mismanagement came to a head in 2005 when, in a desperate bid to clear their lingering debt, St Mirren applied for permission to sell the Love Street stadium, their home since 1894, to a supermarket and build a stadium in the neighbouring Greenhill Road area of Paisley. Renfrewshire Council initially rejected the first part of the plan before local councillors overturned that verdict, safeguarding the club's future. Gilmour reveals he feared the worst had the club's proposals been rejected, with staying at Love Street an impossible alternative.

"If that plan hadn't been successful it could have potentially meant moving out of Paisley and groundsharing, which would have been a slow death for the club. We just couldn't get it to financially add up to redevelop Love Street and we did try hard. It would have been financial suicide and the club might not have survived had we tried to stay. This is the only way forward and, as it happens, we're moving back to our ancestral home. Westmarch was where it all started for St Mirren and our new pitch will only be yards away from that. It's a new era for St Mirren Football Club."

Work on the new stadium began earlier this month and is due to be completed by November. Assuming they can avoid relegation, St Mirren will welcome each of their 11 Clydesdale Bank Premier League opponents for one last time next season then move to their new home in January 2009 for the third round of fixtures. Most of the specifications for the new stadium, to be completed by Tesco before they can take ownership of Love Street, have been decided although the contentious subject of whether to sell the naming rights remains up for debate.

"If somebody comes up with a big cheque then we'll see," said Gilmour. "We're looking at these options although there is a reticence. We're talking to our commercial department and outside advertising companies about what can be generated. Should we just call it St Mirren Park? That is a decision we will need to take at some point."

Gilmour's own future is another thing needing addressed in the not-too-distant future. After 10 years at the helm, he hints he and the board may step down having achieved the goals set in 1998.

"I think we've got a limited time at St Mirren as a board. We are very close to achieving what we set out to do and it will possibly come to a stage, in the next few years, where someone else will try to take it on to the next level. You have a lifespan as a chairman. A lot of people doubted that we could do what we have attained and I think the guys on the board are rightly quite proud of what's been achieved. There have been some pretty hard roads gone down with a lot of tears, grief and heated discussions. But we've come an incredibly long way in that time."


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mortonjag 2008-01-26 09:33:44
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jan 26 2008, 09:31 AM) [snapback]390546[/snapback]
Looks like Clyde will replace Hendry with another former Hun, in John Brown.

Beeb

Is this bad news for us?

I personally feel that with Clyde's budget and lack of experience Hendry was doing not too bad to keep their heads just about above water.

However, John Brown certainly comes across as a 'no nonsence' coach, which could be just the thing their youngsters need.

Also - we have yet to play them twice, so these certainly look our biggest games now.

John Brown is a decent bloke-and pretty committed-football management's a dodgy game for anybody, but I suspect he'll be one of those who can get the best from limited resources.
mortonjag 2008-01-26 09:45:41 PREMIER LEAGUE PLAYER FOR CAPPIELOW
Would you like a little good news? Allow me to tell you that I have reached agreement with a tall, strong, goal scoring mid-fielder to join us come 1st January, 2008, to join us on a permanent contract.

It would not be right for me to divulge the player’s name while he is still registered and playing for a Premier League Club. Hopefully the new player will be seen in Morton colours when we play Stirling Albion at Stirling on 2nd January, 2008.

I am absolutely delighted that we are gaining the services for such an outstanding and committed player.

Onward and upward!!



Onward and upward!!!

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mortonjag 2008-01-26 09:48:57
QUOTE(ianton @ Jan 26 2008, 09:41 AM) [snapback]390549[/snapback]
he's heart lazy and kidney be bothered

But the manager's been serving up pure tripe-it's been truly offal.
mortonjag 2008-01-26 09:50:49
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Jan 26 2008, 09:45 AM) [snapback]390550[/snapback]
Had it been played at Fir Park on Monday, it would almost certainly have been called off again - the Motherwell v ICT game today is off.

Fingers crossed that their game with the green huns is called off too, and the SPL is in further fixture chaos.

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Thank you Mr Mileson!!!
mortonjag 2008-01-26 10:00:44
QUOTE(monyou @ Jan 26 2008, 09:56 AM) [snapback]390557[/snapback]
All he needs is a slice of luck, especially with so much at steak........

Rae should re-think the managerial position. He needs to fillet with a man who has decent links in football.
mortonjag 2008-01-26 10:34:40
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jan 26 2008, 09:52 AM) [snapback]390554[/snapback]
1st of January? rolleyes.gif Are you telling us something new, or re hashing old news?

Neither-I was just browsing G.M.F.C. and happened to notice how ironic his utterance has proved to be. If his 'goalscoring' midfielder had not scored his ONLY goal for us against the part time Binos, we'd currently be second bottom on goal difference, and Clyde have a game in hand over us.

Surely we're entitled to expect more exciting news within the next five days! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-26 10:45:30
QUOTE(Green_oak_tree @ Jan 26 2008, 10:20 AM) [snapback]390565[/snapback]
I sincerely hope this is the case, the SFA have obviously broken there own rule to suit, as for the guy who said it's not an SPL competition, that doesn't matter, the rules of the SFA cup state that SPL clubs cannot use terracing at their home ties, any switch of venue must be like for like and be the nearest stadium to their registered home ground.

Those who hope this is a wind up again are bowing down to the clubs and the SFA.

I say go for it.
I'm also all for an organised boycott of a home game in order to get back at the club for turning their back on their fans.
Hit our Chairman were it hurts, his pocket! He gave no consideration to the fans when he agreed to breaking the rules.

I don't get it either-we have a match today as do Gretna-they are stronger by far in depth of squad, and unless we win this cup tie, we're redundant next weekend. Does Rae not WANT to win it-the man becomes a bigger liability by the day as he constantly shoots himself in the foot. That, BTW, is looking at it commercially.

As to the fans-what fans?-Oh that lot-the ones who won't shout encouragement when the players are pure crap, and don't come to matches, let alone bring a friend as I told them to, and boo, and are never happier than when they're having a good old moan on that rag thing Crawford mentioned-THEM-they don't deserve any consideration-in fact we'd probably be better off without them.
mortonjag 2008-01-26 10:57:49
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jan 26 2008, 10:47 AM) [snapback]390579[/snapback]
Anything in today's papers about this or is it just a wind up right enough ??

A highly regarded maverick advocate is willing to represent them free of charge and will make representation to the High Court on Monday
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mortonjag 2008-01-26 11:24:15
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Jan 26 2008, 11:18 AM) [snapback]390589[/snapback]
Teams are spending far less money than us and doing fine. Look at Partick, they're skint.

Shouldn't that be 'were'? We're NOT spending money at all right now in real terms-savings on Linn, Sanny, Gardyne, Shields, and some lesser players we've shed, and a couple out on loan, and we've only brought in Smith (short term loan) and McGuffie.

Rae has five days left to claw back some credibility.

Will he? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-26 11:28:44
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jan 26 2008, 11:22 AM) [snapback]390593[/snapback]
Is that Donald by any chance tongue.gif

Aye, his father was apparently a Morton man in the good old days of yore.
mortonjag 2008-01-26 11:38:30
QUOTE(gunn84 @ Jan 26 2008, 11:32 AM) [snapback]390601[/snapback]
Well fan here! Was reading through your post as we look like were going to be singing McAlister off you. McCormack wont be leaving for free in any way. The club who takes him in the summer if any will have to pay compensation as hes still only 21. Plus, i've never heard off anyone talk about McCormack being worth 3million. Would love it if that was true though.

Anyway, is this McAlister lad going to be a good player for us if we end up landing him? He seems to have a good record!!

Cheers!!!

McAlister is half way to becoming a decent S.P.L. player, but IMO he's hardly progressed for two seasons. Many at Cappielow, including myself, believe that that's down to poor coaching, poor man management, and poor tactical decisions. I'm not sure HOW good he can be, but he's only 22, and I certainly see him as an S.P.L. player of the future.
mortonjag 2008-01-26 11:55:45
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jan 26 2008, 11:48 AM) [snapback]390612[/snapback]
the word Shipman springs to mind............................. ohmy.gif

...a mere amateur!
mortonjag 2008-01-26 11:59:52
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Jan 26 2008, 11:45 AM) [snapback]390609[/snapback]
Sounds like a nice gesture tongue.gif

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Sounds like Gordon Smith's been getting fish suppers for free from Mr Mileson who's been buying them.

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mortonjag 2008-01-26 12:15:07
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jan 26 2008, 12:10 PM) [snapback]390618[/snapback]
It wouldn't surprise me if Mileson was stupid enough to pay for free fish suppers. This man's business acumen goes as far as giving Super Ro a five year rolling deal and trying to get rid of him eight months later

Rich successful businessmen don't apparently take care of their toys!
mortonjag 2008-01-26 12:17:07
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jan 26 2008, 11:57 AM) [snapback]390616[/snapback]
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you worry me!

I'd never target a fellow Ton supporter!
mortonjag 2008-01-26 12:18:30
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Jan 26 2008, 12:15 PM) [snapback]390619[/snapback]
when I go out to cut up a few wee gangstas, I always make sure I have a 12 foot by ten foot carpet on my shoulder, usually this keeps the police sweet but its a pain in the arrse carrying it up the chooky hen stairs after a night out.

As for a stun gun I'm sure they could be a good laugh on a drunken night out, but what happens if the junkie robbing bassa has on wellies?

You need a flair for it! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-26 12:34:11
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jan 26 2008, 12:31 PM) [snapback]390625[/snapback]
Thank f for that, where do you practice anyway, incase i ever decide to move!!!!!! laugh.gif

I don't need to practice any more-every one's a winner!

Anyway-toodlepip-off to Dunfermline for that 15-0 victory to the Ton!
mortonjag 2008-01-27 09:13:53
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jan 26 2008, 10:34 PM) [snapback]391215[/snapback]
Credit to you Paddy for your stance in the face of the anti -Mac mob on here. I don't think there's a massive groundswell of opinion against Jim in the general support, contrary to the opinion of a certain poster who wasn't at the game today and who's thrown in the towel (and his season ticket) before a punch has been thrown. AFAIC his views, like his 'scoops' can be largely disregarded laugh.gif

I have wondered previously, how representative this board is of the fanbase. I think it attracts some real 'fanatics' , some of them bordering on obsessive behaviour (I give you exhibit 'A' ............... Mortonjag) I don't mean this in a bad way as I view this board every day (and so a bit obsessive myself)

However, I believe that Jim doesn't have much time to turn things round. The calls of the mob will get increasingly louder and Dougy (and Jim )will only be able to stand so much pressure.

So , good luck to Jim - if he survives this he'll be a much stronger manager at the end of it, but time isn't on his side i'm afraid.

I can refer you to an excellent psychiatrist Cloth Ears.
mortonjag 2008-01-27 09:21:19
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Jan 26 2008, 08:34 PM) [snapback]391104[/snapback]
What evidence is there that the Morton fans want rid of Mc Inally?
A few comments on a message board which is populated by less than half the support doesnt substantiate a majority of fans.
(I'm sure a moderator can let us know how many subscribers we have on here)

You too are welcome to the telephone number of my psychiatrist friend!
mortonjag 2008-01-27 09:29:11
QUOTE(Tinton @ Jan 27 2008, 07:51 AM) [snapback]391303[/snapback]
I don’t believe that this forum qualifies as an accurate sounding board to the opinion of the majority of Morton fans. The vast majority on here share a similar view of the way forward for Morton and there is an endless number of threads calling for the sacking of JM, however if you read them you’ll see it is the same people agreeing with each other over and over again. Indeed there have been loads of polls on the subject that never seem to support the sacking call even when there are many like me who post infrequently and don’t bother to vote in them.

There has been a really good suggestion about getting a petition to hand into Cappielow calling for JM removal, can I suggest that all signatories mark beside their name how much they will be donating towards the cost of terminating JM’s contract.

A third candidate for the psychiatrist's chair!


You guys are more blinkered than JM and Shoogly put together. Has it not penetrated your thick skulls that not very long ago 80% of posters were steadfastly behind JM, and had 'full confidence in his managerial ability'.

That hardly suggests that the board is populated by a shower of JM haters. The simple truth is that reality has dawned for Morton supporters in general, and those who are really enthusiastic about the club they love tend to find their way to our forums---that, gentlemen, is the way it works, whether you like it or not.
mortonjag 2008-01-27 09:42:24 Mr Rae, I'm jist a wee munky, but mye daddy kepes rantyng awn abowt ewe nedyng ah nu manigur.

Eye am kwite gude at ah lot oph fings an wood bee hapie two doo thi taske phor peenutz

Mye wee frend fing (his pikshurz awn thi lepht beesyde mee) wood olso bee hapie too bee ure ah cystunt manigur phor nuffing.

Wee kant prawmis offal mutch, butte wee promis too bee gude an doo ixaktlie whot ewe tel uz

Dadsez phat putes uz inn wipha grate tchance.

Pee ess Mr Rae-wee fink ure wundirfool-fank ewe sew mutch phor ivryfing uve ivur dun


(sined Munx) xxxxx wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-27 10:05:21 Excuses, excuses, and more excuses-listen guys, what you're saying looks O.K. on paper, but REALLY-get a life. I predicted we'd end up in 7th spot, but it wasn't a 'Happy' prediction.

Greenock Morton are potentially a far bigger club than most on your statistics sheet, and Mr Rae promised us he was aiming for the top. Many people have been happy to let him off that hook, but he did-as I've said before-ask Andy Bryan.

Not only has Rae been wantonly squandering some of the resources we had (like or hate Sanny, for example, he WAS an asset in the squad, as were Midge, and even Linn and Gardyne, but we've made an abysmal shambles of signings leaving behind a trail of lies, half truths, and broken promises.

'Don't you think those boys deserve the chance to take us forward' he proclaimed!!! mad.gif

No harm to Iain Russell-he's got ability and works his baws off, but at the end of the day, he was a Division 2 player, just as was Bobby Linn. Ryan McGuffie has had long enough to make an impact-I've no idea why-but he hasn't --despite an excellent history with Gretna. Barry Smith HAS made a difference, but appears unfit, and leaves again in the spring.

Somebody else-Alibi perhaps-has described us as in 'freefall'. That seems a bit dramatic, but it's also got a scarily realistic ring to it.

Rae has FOUR days left to convince us he hasn't totally lost the plot.

Will he? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-27 10:12:48 I've been wondering for a wee while if Jim would secretly be happy to leave. Irrespective of his ability or otherwise, I think he's been sold down the river by a Chairman who knows the buck will stop at his Managers feet.

Maybe elsewhere with a supportive and perceptive Board he will yet prove he can 'cut the mustard'.

Time to go Jim-for your own sake perhaps?
mortonjag 2008-01-27 10:21:52
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jan 26 2008, 10:52 PM) [snapback]391229[/snapback]
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I know those two work for K----norr, but SURELY it's still spelled Caroline!
mortonjag 2008-01-27 10:29:53
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jan 26 2008, 08:24 PM) [snapback]391099[/snapback]
January has got be the worst month. My favourite month I think is May- weather is pleasant, lots of sunlight and even better less “tax dodgers” in the pubs.

Ditto HT-the sunniest (but not warmest month of the year), and my favourite-still time to look forward to a good summer too.

I detest the dark months-seasonal affective disorder is not a pleasant condition, even in mild doses!

Once took the family up to Tain on Holiday in May, and remember driving up the A9 in gloriously warm sunshine through snow capped hills-utterly beautiful it was.
mortonjag 2008-01-27 11:02:50 Seems that big Sanny rose above the Arbroath defence yesterday to pick his spot in the net-as everybody knows, his head and shoulder are indistinguishable to some referees, but this time the big man got the benefit of the doubt!!! wink.gif

Well done that man, and good luck in a happier place.
mortonjag 2008-01-27 11:09:59
QUOTE(Tooth & Nail @ Jan 26 2008, 10:13 PM) [snapback]391179[/snapback]
Melville (SNR)

Bryan McGregor midTONs irvineTON

se65an ThornTON Zutons mortonjag laugh.gif

McAllister Melville (me tongue.gif)

Subs: WeegieTon (sub goalie), HardingsHamstring, GibbyTon, port-ton and Alibi

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That's ever so sweet, but really I'd have to decline-apart from being a tad over the hill, I'm only tall enough to kiss Shoogly's arse, and would, in any event, be sacked for failing that standard initiation ceremony.
mortonjag 2008-01-27 11:12:55
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 27 2008, 11:06 AM) [snapback]391347[/snapback]
He's probably just trying to save his own reputation at this point...

Probably-quoted in today's Sunday Mail as claiming yesterday was a good platform for tomorrow's match, with lots of positives, while the Dunfermline JM said 'We've played better and lost!!!!! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-27 11:51:09
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Jan 27 2008, 11:47 AM) [snapback]391367[/snapback]
This is one thing that was glaringly obvious to me more than ever. As we were housed above the dugout yesterday we couldn't see in, but even when Dunfermline were winning the assistant (or McIntyre when he subbed himself) could always be seen right over on the touchline clapping and giving encouragement to the players.

I didn't see McInally once yesterday.

I didn't see JM or Shoogly-is he really abroad?
mortonjag 2008-01-27 12:08:07 JM's almost certainly going to be off in the near future, but it's been incredibly hard to get any real truths from behind the scenes at Cappielow, and I believe that's because there is widespread fear (NOT respect) of the Chairman.

Nobody in his right mind can really see many positives from the present situation-it's a veritable shambles and JM's taking most of the stick, but who is the real culprit? Have his hands been tied? Has he really been allowed to bring in the players he wanted? Has Rae meddled too much in team selection and tactics? Why can't we seem to sign anybody of quality despite rumours 'til we're sick of them?

I can already hear the official announcement that 'We have mutually agreed that Jim has taken the club as far as he can, and parted on amicable terms!!! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-27 12:12:25
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 27 2008, 12:09 PM) [snapback]391374[/snapback]
Well Dougie is a football sage , well according to his programme notes . If he took a look at this rag months ago he would have picked that pearl of wisdom from anyone of fair number of posters .
Long my he reign over us rolleyes.gif

.....God save the King!
mortonjag 2008-01-27 12:15:53
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jan 27 2008, 12:13 PM) [snapback]391376[/snapback]
Chairman Orifice is well known for sounding off like this. In one of Cowboy's final games he went off on a rant to a couple of supporters about his tactics in the middle of Edinburgh Waverley station, so this doesn't come as a surprise.

Regarding "Watch your back Jim!" The writing has been on the wall for him since Peterhead two seasons ago, he is just biding his time for a payoff, and pissing everyone off in the process. It isn't like he is going to get unfairly dismissed, he has proven he isn't up to the job so he shouldnt need to watch his back.

Football doesn't owe anyone a living, a lot of people involved would do well to realise this.

Well capitANUS-if anyone should know-you're the man! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-27 13:13:01
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jan 26 2008, 02:56 PM) [snapback]390695[/snapback]
Ye urny kidneying

Maybe he's about to reveal a new manager who won't listen to his mince or sign doughballs.
mortonjag 2008-01-27 13:21:23
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 27 2008, 01:08 PM) [snapback]391387[/snapback]
Ernie there are 2 levels of incompetance at Cappielow . Certainly the tactical shambles and lack of organisation , fight and belief from the players is due to McInally . You know I've questioned his suitablity and commitment to this club in getting the best from all avenues . Sorry to raise this point again his unwillingness to get involved in sorting the youth set up said to me that he had no intention of being force in the long term.
However the off field disappointments from the summer when the club after so many seasons of underachieving should have gained a momentum . A higher level of football , new kit , these things should have been a positive for the finances and profile of the club . They appear to be a hinderance .
The total failure to capture any experienced players to help our eternal young team were negligent in the extreme . The remarks about loyalty to the players from last season ran hollow as Rae had already boasted about targets with 1st division experience . He must have recieved an award for his error strewn programme notes and the praising of Celtic supporters as being the best in Scotland when we are subjected to the if you were real fans you'd kidnap someone and drag them along to see the suffering of another couple of thousand souls who blindly pay in while expecting very little in return .
The Millar saga , he was portrayed as a snake who had went behind the clubs back then we get the other side of the arguement but Chris wouldn't play again according the manager .
His inclusion now is not in doubt as he continually outshines others who are in questionable physical condition .

In JM's favour, you've got to remember that his hands have to some degree been tied, and he's been unable to say what he really thinks. Rae, on the other hand can spin it whichever way he pleases, knowing that nobody has the balls to stand up to the paymaster. That is why I ultimately lay the blame 100% at the Chairman's desk, and let's face it, he could have punted JM after the play offs and did not.
mortonjag 2008-01-27 13:32:48
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Jan 26 2008, 08:07 PM) [snapback]391083[/snapback]
Just thought I would start a new thread.
From reading all the threads on here, I am beginning to think I am the only one who thinks our manager is up to the job. Maybe its because Im not as young as I was, or because I know I couldnt do the job, but I see no constructive reason for "fans" shouting abuse at their own team or management. I have said on here before, if any layman tried to tell me I was incompetent at my job, I would be less than happy.
Comments most welcome


Paddy

edited cause ma fingers arent spelling correctly...

Paddy -that's really very, very sad when you think about it seriously. What I mean is that most guys with a grain of intelligence would realise if they weren't up to a job, but you not only slag off those who criticise JM, you claim that he IS competent. Well, quite simply, he's NOT, and although I don't personally hurl abuse, it's not against the law!

It's not, mind you, that I expect somebody to willingly walk out of a paid job, but in most professions there are systems in place to protect third parties from the effects of incompetence. If JM was a surgeon, for example, he'd have been prevented from wreaking further havoc ages ago.
mortonjag 2008-01-27 13:46:45
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jan 27 2008, 01:36 PM) [snapback]391398[/snapback]
In reality he is.

Afterall he's cut the heart and soul out most of the supporters tongue.gif

That is actually SO true Willow-right back to the start of last season when he said we were going to 'have to grind out results'-I NEVER quite understood why-and long before that, he's persistently served up a brand of unadventurous and unattractive football-and it just got worse Sure we raised our game, for example, against Killie, but the very fact that everybody harks back to that match so often is a sad indictment of what's normally been on offer.

Our crowds are now below the level in our 3rd division winning year, when under Cowboy, we actually got a wee bit of excitement. Maybe Shoogly's bank manager will have more success than the fans in forcing the old dodder to wake up and smell the coffee.
mortonjag 2008-01-27 13:49:02
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jan 27 2008, 01:46 PM) [snapback]391405[/snapback]
Don't be a stickler he's at a Sweetie Convention.

On his return JM will be given the heave ho.

Sweetie Wives' convention?
mortonjag 2008-01-27 13:57:28
QUOTE(Toby @ Jan 27 2008, 01:51 PM) [snapback]391411[/snapback]
Think you're contradicting yourself there tbh. If Jim doesn't have the balls to stand up to his boss then he has to take some responsibility when things go wrong. If Rae is responsible for the likes of team selection, bringing in players, tactics etc. and Jim was to come out and say this, hence put his job on the line then it would exonerate him from blame. However, if this is the case and he's just sitting acepting it then he's got noone to blame but himself.

I've gone for both, but mainly Rae. You cannot blame Rae completely though, McInally has made plenty of mistakes and not standing up for himself may well be his biggest.

I don't disagree with your comments about JM, but what I'm highlighting is that Rae DELIBERATELY chose a man whom he suspected would be putty in his hands-I believe that having total control is still FAR more important to him than the general well being of the club, and for that he must ultimately carry the can IMO.
mortonjag 2008-01-27 14:04:42
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jan 27 2008, 01:53 PM) [snapback]391412[/snapback]
no they are higher tongue.gif

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Is that after they are adjusted for away support Bryan?

Let me rephrase--

The crowds are rapidly dropping to the level we had in the third division, and if the trend continues we will soon be struggling to get 1500 through the gates of a Saturday.
mortonjag 2008-01-27 14:11:34
QUOTE(Toby @ Jan 27 2008, 02:04 PM) [snapback]391421[/snapback]
Possibly so, my argument however is that for being such a weak character, McInally has to carry the can for some aspects of what's going wrong. I do see where you're coming from, let's be honest, we've agreed on most things in relation to this But Jim has to take some blame.

I'm sure very few folk will vote for Rae on his own, and I can't argue with what you say about JM, but I'm basing my vote for him STRICTLY on the title of my thread-who ULTIMATELY is the villain of the piece?

To put it differently, under another Chairman, it's possible, if not probable, that the Manager could have had much more success.
mortonjag 2008-01-27 14:16:28
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jan 27 2008, 02:07 PM) [snapback]391423[/snapback]
Considering the away support was tiny that year they will be higher

02/03 2333
03/04 2895 we had airdrie, accies and dumbarton
04/05 2267 we had dumbarton
05/06 2760 we had thistle and dumbarton and a playoff
06/07 2651 won the title
07/08 2828

At our last game Queens seemed to have a couple of hundred fans-certainly by the vocal support they gave-and we only just cleared the 2000. It's the trend that's very worrying-folk are definitely voting with their feet, and Mr Rae still doesn't seem to understand this inordinate ungratefulness!!!
mortonjag 2008-01-27 14:19:03
QUOTE(Toby @ Jan 27 2008, 02:15 PM) [snapback]391427[/snapback]
Think we can argue about this one til the cows come home tbh, while agreeing with each other on all but the finest points.

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Aye-well we're agreed it's TTG!
mortonjag 2008-01-27 14:45:26
QUOTE(ianton @ Jan 27 2008, 02:33 PM) [snapback]391431[/snapback]
very interesting points all round.the thing that worries me is that rae will pick another puppet to replace the present one.that will be a step to far imho.we are freefalling so fast we will smash into oblivion when we land.now that is scarey.

Where do you imagine our new 'overseer'-Mr Donald will figure in the negotiations for a new manager?
mortonjag 2008-01-27 14:51:10
QUOTE(HamCam @ Jan 27 2008, 01:47 PM) [snapback]391407[/snapback]
Excuse my ignorance but I am old and constantly struggle with all this modern gadgetry.

Finally giving in and letting the kids have mobile phones. Aside from feeling happier that they will be able to keep in touch at their various activities I confess I am all too aware of peer pressure. Astonished at how many youngsters have mobiles and the snobbery about the makes.

Where I am struggling is that I do not want to splash out on the latest costliest phone but would rather buy a reasonably priced pay as you go deal or alternatively I can get old Nokias from work and then (I think) sort out a Sim card. Problem is I know next to nothing about the mobile market.

Any advice on the following:

- Best deal out there at the moment if I choose to buy.
- Is option to use an old phone realistic and if so do you just get the Sim card with call time from somewhere like Tesco ?

Realistically the kids will not use them that much and have concerns they will loose them like everything else after a while.

Any help much appreciated.

I have an excellent wee Nokia which I bought on the Tesco PAYG network for £20. My mate got an older model for a tenner. If it's just a basic but quality mobile you want, they are hard to beat, AND you get clubcard points etc., on the purchase along with free call time on some, and of course on all top-ups.
mortonjag 2008-01-27 14:56:42
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 27 2008, 02:09 PM) [snapback]391424[/snapback]
of course it was tattie howking if you lived in ayrshire huh.gif that's what i said - ayrshire weirdos say tatties. and they hump sheep.

Don't be so daft-Ayrshire is coo country!
mortonjag 2008-01-27 15:04:31 Nobody seems to give a f*ck about this important Scottish Cup Tie-the soul seems to have been ripped from the support, and I wonder how many will make the trip. My brother has a work engagement, so I have to choose whether or not to go all on my lonesome, as the Monkey's frantically reading up football in the hope of landing the new Manager's post.

Haven't yet decided-is it worth it folks-it'll cost about £40 including petrol, pie, and bovril. What do you recommend?
mortonjag 2008-01-27 15:09:58
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 27 2008, 03:05 PM) [snapback]391446[/snapback]
Where did you get a hold of McInally's application from ??

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mortonjag 2008-01-27 15:30:12
QUOTE(HamCam @ Jan 27 2008, 03:03 PM) [snapback]391444[/snapback]
I cannot see how you can comment with any authority on how the relationship between the two works or otherwise. I know folk who have dealings with both DDFR and JM and would confirm that they are both strong personalities.

Its like a game of cluedo without all the facts. Your problem or maybe my issue with your constant rants is that you seem to have some form of personal agenda with DDFR. I take it you both went to school together and he stole your sweets at playtime or did he get the girl and left you holding the monkey.

In my view the success and failure of the club are generally down to three main factors, the Board, the Management and the Players. Only folk who I do not accept are culpable or otherwise are the supporters.

....and your problem, or maybe my issue with your constant irritation at my posts, is that I have repeatedly stated I have no personal issue with Shoogly, have only met the old codger once, and most certainly did not go to school with a man 15 years my senior.

Frankly it's utterly laughable to suggest that I, or any other perceptive poster for that matter, 'cannot comment with any authority on how the relationship between the Chairman and manager works'.

Unless I'm very much mistaken it's clearer than day that Rae has, and indeed must have the final say in everything. You are, of course, correct when you state we're not privy to the ACTUAL interactions, but to follow your Cluedo analogy, there have been many successful prosecutions based purely on circumstantial evidence.

Now to your original comments about 'strong' personality-what on earth is that supposed to mean?

Have you studied psychology? If so you will acknowledge that any individual can exhibit very strong traits in one type of interaction, whilst being utterly ineffectual in others. What I think you mean is that they can both be a bit pig headed, and to me it's blatantly obvious who gets to the trough first every time.
mortonjag 2008-01-27 15:35:22
QUOTE(HamCam @ Jan 27 2008, 03:14 PM) [snapback]391451[/snapback]
Save the £40 and get yourself a hooker.

As Robin Williams once said on film "You know, you're in more dire need of a blow job than any white man in history."

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Listen Sonny boy-I've possibly had more blow jobs than you've had hot dinners, and not one of them cost me a penny! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-27 15:47:50
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Jan 27 2008, 03:44 PM) [snapback]391467[/snapback]
when guessing quantities or something I often hear a "ballpark figure".. or "ballpart figure"?

I have no idea what these mean

any ideas?

In Reply to: Re: Wanna know the meaning of the phrase posted by Vivek on January 24, 2002

: : Wanna know the maning of the phrase " ballpark figure"

At first, people described rough numerical estimates as "in the ballpark." An estimate that's in the ballpark is somewhere in the vicinity of the real value, as a baseball that a batter hits too far, but not beyond the bleachers, is still in the ballpark. More recently such approximations became known as ballpark figures.
mortonjag 2008-01-27 15:51:28
QUOTE(HamCam @ Jan 27 2008, 03:45 PM) [snapback]391468[/snapback]
Dear Perceptive Poster,

Thank you kindly for your further comments.

Of course you do not have a personal issue with Shoogly. Most folk looking to make a constructive point without being accused of having a personal agenda might not stoop to personal insults and name calling.

How nice of you also to advice me of what I intended in my earlier rambling post. I stand corrected a strong personality is of course the same as being pig headed.

I am not worthy.

Please accept my humble apologies.

Accepted.
mortonjag 2008-01-27 15:57:22
QUOTE(jpmil @ Jan 27 2008, 03:48 PM) [snapback]391473[/snapback]
It is not often nowadays that I bother to read Mortonjag's inane rants but as I forgot to sign in to the site I unfortunately read his latest quote and thought how can it be "clearer than day" does the old duffer mean "as clear as day?"

Just a thought and as I've now signed in the "BLOCKER" will be in force again..thank God!!!

So glad this Philistine has me on 'ignore'. Some folk have no appreciation of the use of our own language.

It's 'as clear as day', that he's totally missed my adaptation of the term in hyperbolic function-oh well-they can't compete and press their little huff buttons with a self satisfied plonk.

Plonk-eh-that must make them plonkers. That's as clear as day to me.
mortonjag 2008-01-27 15:59:45
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 27 2008, 03:14 PM) [snapback]391450[/snapback]
Download paltalk , arrange a donation for the webcast anything from a £1 , buy yourself a good bottle of whisky Langavulin is a lovely smoky half you'll be a tenner up on the deal .

Listen to the game while indulging in your refreshment , make sure you finish the bottle .
Wake up in the morning feeling abit seedy , we are out of the cup you have a sore head but at least you didn't put all that mileage on your car or had to sit in the elements while watching another performance from the walking dead and the Mummy.

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mortonjag 2008-01-27 16:00:28
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Jan 27 2008, 03:45 PM) [snapback]391469[/snapback]
Listen Sonny boy-I've possibly had more blow jobs than you've had hot dinners, and not one of them cost me a penny! wink.gif
thats understandable as im sure thai ladyboys prefer to be paid in baht rolleyes.gif

You b*****d-you've been spying on me.
mortonjag 2008-01-27 16:04:29
QUOTE(jpmil @ Jan 27 2008, 04:01 PM) [snapback]391485[/snapback]
If, and I say if, the dismantling of the reserves, fringe players and youth structure is all down to the edicts of DDFR and JM is being over ruled on all fronts on team matters by DDFR then there is only one thing that anyone with a set of balls can and should do and that is to walk away and then spill the beans to the press and supporters. If the foregoing is not the case then only JM is to blame for the spectre of 2nd Division staring us in the face.
On a seperate note his record of "good" signings is seriously in doubt.

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Apologies to ThornTON, but couldn't resist-it's clear as day he means separate!
mortonjag 2008-01-27 16:07:59
QUOTE(jpmil @ Jan 27 2008, 04:05 PM) [snapback]391489[/snapback]
My adaption of your hyberbolic function does not hide the fact that you are an !"asshole" I will not be viewing you next hyberbolic adaption

Good.
mortonjag 2008-01-27 16:10:00
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jan 27 2008, 04:06 PM) [snapback]391490[/snapback]
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Oh dear Bryan-I can't seem to get anything right today-I'll re-phrase...


...failed to hit 2500! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-27 16:14:47
QUOTE(irvineTON @ Jan 27 2008, 04:10 PM) [snapback]391493[/snapback]
There was more than 10 people singing "Time to go", I can assure u of that!! wink.gif
If the singing couldn't be heard then why was someone over the other side of the stand whinging about backing the team? I find it hard to back a team that gives me nothing back in return.
The guy that got lifted was drinking from a 2 litre bottle of Irn Bru and wouldn't sit down, he was blitzed and being rude to the stewards. He was nothing to do with the singers!!!

It depends where you were seated-we were about four or five rows down from them and maybe twenty yards to the left, and they definitely appeared to be in good voice, and as you say, the other bloke who was getting upset was about the same distance again to our left and below us.

The only thing I found a wee bit unfair, was that up until the Pars scored (when they immediately started to chant) we had actually been doing not too badly.
mortonjag 2008-01-27 16:18:18
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jan 27 2008, 04:12 PM) [snapback]391495[/snapback]
if you count the wheelchair bit it did tongue.gif

'The wheelchair bit' laugh.gif

Bryan, you should know better-it's the disabled fans' section surely? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-27 16:23:17
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jan 27 2008, 04:19 PM) [snapback]391502[/snapback]
laugh.gif pc gone mad no it should be the wheelchair using fans' section

Is there a separate section for disabled fans in wheelchairs as distinct from those who still have some use of their legs?

Serious question BTW?
mortonjag 2008-01-27 16:24:43
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Jan 27 2008, 04:20 PM) [snapback]391503[/snapback]
It's McInally as he is, a complete and utter tit!

God i hate him.

You hate manpower and you hate tits too-are you a hermaphrodite perchance?
mortonjag 2008-01-27 16:27:31
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 27 2008, 04:20 PM) [snapback]391505[/snapback]
but i say tottie with a glottal stop and therefore sound dead working class

Do you also say glottal with a glottal stop? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-27 16:31:19
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jan 27 2008, 04:28 PM) [snapback]391513[/snapback]
not currently....but they can use the stand too

TY!
mortonjag 2008-01-27 17:04:10 Normally the monkey does the predictions, but he's deep in chapter three of 'How to become a football manager without really trying'-it's entitled-'How to keep in with the Chairman and Board without losing control'-so here goes--

Stuffy game with little attractive football until Gretna score their first-we then have a real go at them which doesn't pay off and they score a second on the break, after which they dig in and we offer little more.

Sound familiar? sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-27 20:32:08
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jan 27 2008, 07:36 PM) [snapback]391581[/snapback]
so whit's yer point, caller?

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Can you not read?
mortonjag 2008-01-27 20:46:06
QUOTE(BishopTon @ Jan 27 2008, 05:04 PM) [snapback]391534[/snapback]
Bottom line, if you have no contol of what happens then your a puppet.

therefore i blame Mcinally as he has no back bone, unlike people like Collins who walked away with morals intact.

I have not been back since when sitting in hospitality, Douglas Rae told me that he had sat down with Jim on the Friday and picked the team, i was so stunned i just shook my head, Rae got the jist and just sneaked away.

Dougie Rae wont learn....

That's the kind of fact that the Shooglyphiles consistently deny-even today some bloody goat from the back of beyond was suggesting we don't have any proof of the interactions between them, and the last poster has also stated quite openly that he KNOWS Rae sits in on pre and post match confabs. Add to that his patronising 'Shoogly Peg' comments every week about one player or another. The man is now a liability-it's quite as simple as that.
mortonjag 2008-01-27 20:54:22
QUOTE(Deego @ Jan 27 2008, 07:12 PM) [snapback]391568[/snapback]
Is it possible to chase a pavement? blink.gif

Aye-why do you ask-chasing is a masonry term for trimming an edge with a hammer and bolster chisel-any DIY questions-ask the Monkey!
mortonjag 2008-01-27 21:01:10
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Jan 27 2008, 08:56 PM) [snapback]391615[/snapback]
How dare you accuse me of such a thing. Anyone who knows me knows that I am a man of utmost integrity and morals.

And I havent fished in years. Might have to get a new rod though...

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Your present rod seems to be very effective you naughty boy! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-27 21:10:23
QUOTE(HamCam @ Jan 27 2008, 09:00 PM) [snapback]391617[/snapback]
Strangely enough many comments that refer to our esteemed leader equally apply to man who has a strange relationship with a monkey. You really need to get over your animal fetish.

I'd suggest that a healthy homo-simian bond is a damned sight more natural than a clandestine homo-caprine shag of convenience once in a while. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-27 21:25:27
QUOTE(HamCam @ Jan 27 2008, 09:13 PM) [snapback]391621[/snapback]
Each to their own.

To each his own, you've found your own
one and only ewe?
mortonjag 2008-01-27 21:58:22
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Jan 27 2008, 09:49 PM) [snapback]391636[/snapback]
McAlister certainly does, so does Millar, although we now know he'll be off at the season's end.
Anyone else spring to mind?

Very possibly Harding, looks a bit more assured next to Smith.

These players apart, which players still have 'potential' to fulfil (besides an unfit Spoonsy)?

Stevenson is the archetypal example of why NOT to come to Cappielow if you want to develop.
mortonjag 2008-01-27 22:04:01
QUOTE(HardingsHamstring @ Jan 27 2008, 09:59 PM) [snapback]391640[/snapback]
*Looks toward boo-boys in the shed, directing this at them*

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDGracious me-Mr Rae has aged since that was taken at the 'sit in' at Golden Casket!
mortonjag 2008-01-27 22:15:53
QUOTE(capello @ Jan 27 2008, 10:08 PM) [snapback]391644[/snapback]
The guy is a fud!

Did he not say something like the FBI would be hard pushed to find any investment at cappielow after Rae
came in and fixed the shed etc,Rae supposedly invited him down to see the investments but he had other commitents!

guy is a fandan!!!

It sounds as though Mr Rae may have done something to upset him!
mortonjag 2008-01-27 22:20:03
QUOTE(18-deano-ehm-74 @ Jan 27 2008, 10:09 PM) [snapback]391645[/snapback]
He is like most on here, he has reliable sources, they are 'ton fans in the know' rolleyes.gif

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It's not exactly as though the players have to sign the 'Official Secrets Act' form. Quite frankly I'm surprised that we don't hear much more of the goings on behind the scenes.

How anybody can still try to make a case for Rae NOT interfering in everything beggars belief. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-27 22:44:14
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jan 27 2008, 10:33 PM) [snapback]391654[/snapback]
i personally think mcinally should be banned from signing anyone. every player hes brought to the clubs career has been ruined by him.

Strong and forceful comment there Princess-I'm not entirely sure I'd lay ALL the blame at JM's door, but I agree-not one single player has come under the present regime and fulfilled potential.

Huffy McGuffie is the latest victim of this strange phenomenon-is it a virus lurking in the vaults at Scapa?

Perhaps the free fudgy wudgys dished out after morning devotions are infected with a rare form of sleeping sickness.

I have a different theory and it's not exactly revolutionary-too much stick and too little carrot produces a quiet revolution in even the most willing donkey!
mortonjag 2008-01-27 22:54:18 mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-27 23:07:28 That I'm going to wake up tomorrow morning, log on to GMFC.net and discover Shoogly's had a brain transplant under local anaesthetic, signed five non-cup-tied former SPL players, sacked JM, appointed Mark McGhee as manager, and left on a year long round the world trip.

Goodnight and God bless!
mortonjag 2008-01-28 07:35:58
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jan 27 2008, 11:28 PM) [snapback]391688[/snapback]
A striker is a priority. Would have a striker rather than Jenkins.

However my guessing is we will def get Jenkins, but not got a clue about anyone else. Wonder if the name Paul McGowan is still floating about at Scappa.

Hey you-I thought you'd been relatively sensible recently and we're back to this crap-Weatherson, Russell, and Graham are all strikers. The fact that they are not striking doesn't mean they've lost the ability. This needs to be a 'get it sorted campaign-ideally, another goalie, at least two decent defenders, and a midfield dynamo who will kick ass and take no prisoners for 90 minutes. That and a new manager-I'd take Alan Moore tomorrow, but he's only one of many who are miles ahead of JM.

Now none of this is actually impossible if we have enough money, and it's NOT exactly like trying to sign a top premiership name.

The fact that it won't happen is down to Mr Rae. I can't understand why folks get so upset when I have a go at a man who has single handedly generated so much misery in the last eight months. He is no longer worthy of respect IMO- a man whose selfish glory seeking has blinded him to the general good of the club and fans is respected only by dolts, yet I'm still accused of having a 'personal vendetta'.

I'm totally pissed off with hearing scare stories about another HS coming in if Rae went-we don't need him to go, but SOMEBODY must shove him into that big chair between Arthur and Iain Brown NOW. That's what's planned for his 80th I guess, with Crawford and Ian Donald finally taking over, but by that time gentlemen we'll be back in division 3.

It's time to go Jim, and it's past time to go Shoogly. Vive la revolution.
mortonjag 2008-01-28 07:48:14
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 28 2008, 07:37 AM) [snapback]391724[/snapback]
I don't think we'll sign anyone... and I still think we'll stay up, but it'll be a long and miserable road to doing so.

MJ I think Weatherson has lost the ability in that he's in no fit state to play 90 minutes of First Division football, which is why he is so often looking like a passenger.

nacho it's very obvious that Spoonsy has some personal issues to sort before he returns to form, but IMO he's SPL class at his best. The boy doesn't appear to have the wit to get this fixed without some proper input-possibly even a referral for advice/counselling, by the club. Instead he's wearing the armband one week and dropped the next. Man management at its amateurish worst.

I sense that the obvious dispiritment at Scapa is only going to get worse if, as you suggest, we fail to sign anyone, though I agree it's on the cards. For that reason, I would not now be in the slightest surprised to see us relegated. If that's what it's going to take for the truth to finally dawn behind the scenes, it's a sad, sad day indeed.
mortonjag 2008-01-28 07:52:06
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jan 28 2008, 01:21 AM) [snapback]391704[/snapback]
I was sitting at the end of the section of the Morton support closest to the dugouts and could hear singing but barely make out the words (although I could make out one chorus of 'are you watching Dougie Rae') so I;m certain the manager couldn't.

However I do agree with the sentiments of those singing. I'm finding it hard to get behind the team at the moment partly because some of them look as if they have downed tools and want McInally out and partly because I think the need to sack Jim McInally is now bigger than one match away at Dunfermline.

I wasn't singing either but in my opinion there were probably lots of people who, like me, agreed with what they were singing but for whatever reason never joined in. I certainly don't think the silence indicated that people disagreed with them.

A variation of a worker's right to withhold his labour, and becoming more palpable with every passing game.
mortonjag 2008-01-28 07:53:49
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jan 28 2008, 02:28 AM) [snapback]391713[/snapback]
Both.

It is becoming increasingly more evident that Rae has no idea how to make progress of any sort at the helm of a football club, and unless something dramatic happens by way of reformation behind the scenes then the future for GMFC is very bleak indeed. We were set back countless years by the Scott regime, and the way Rae is heading we're never going to make up any ground. He either steps down from any active role within the club, or sells up. Ramble on about caring about the club if you will, and I'm sure he does, but that doesn't mean he isn't running it into a brick wall.

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mortonjag 2008-01-28 07:55:17
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Jan 28 2008, 06:45 AM) [snapback]391718[/snapback]
Let's hope not eh ! dry.gif

Rise and shine buddy! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-28 07:59:46
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Jan 28 2008, 06:54 AM) [snapback]391720[/snapback]
Stay.
But in all honesty, the Clyde game will be the acid test.

It seems like the fans are pretty well united on this now Paddy-forget the cup tie tonight, I don't think we'll win, but may well see the boys individual pride giving us a cracking game.

Clyde-that's different-if the players have also got to breaking point, they can do more to oust JM than the rest of us put together.
mortonjag 2008-01-28 08:50:16
QUOTE(giz @ Jan 28 2008, 08:15 AM) [snapback]391732[/snapback]
So Im a P**k for voicing my opinion whilst you lot can shout abuse at employees of Morton...some good logic there NOT.My main gripe was that not one song was sung in support of the team by the small number at the back and I can ASSURE YOU ME AND MY MATES DID SING 2 SONGS for the team before the anti McInally songs began.

Giz-I was halfway between the two lots, and aye there was a really decent effort to get behind the boys earlier in the match-that plus the fact that the TTG chants started immediately after the Pars first goal, when we had been playing pretty well. It was clearly pre-rehearsed, and it would have surely been better coming-say-in the last five minutes, but don't forget those guys have just as much right to express their feelings as anybody else.
mortonjag 2008-01-28 08:55:21
QUOTE(dazza @ Jan 28 2008, 08:53 AM) [snapback]391735[/snapback]
As soon as one of the members of the group came in he shouted TTG straight away . We dont need people like this at the games. Douglas Rae knows what position we are in, if Clyde beat us Jim will be off.

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Mr Rae's been divulging his plans to a FAN! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-28 10:00:49
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jan 28 2008, 09:25 AM) [snapback]391740[/snapback]

PETER WEATHERSON IS NOT A STRIKER


sorry. he's not. the more I watch him the more I realise how uncomfortable he really is playing with his back to goal. Behind the strikers.. yes. Let him collect knock downs or drive forward with the ball so he has space to shoot. With his back to goal it takes him too long to collect the ball and turn and only slows down attacks.

The boy is unfit, and disinterested. JM finally admitted he's a striker, and I can't be bothered arguing this again. Based on current performances you are correct.
mortonjag 2008-01-28 10:08:47 In the Herald the reporter of Saturday's game described Morton as 'abject'. He says JM told him-'We need three or four players to stay in this division and I'm confident we will'! wink.gif There was no preview of tonight's cup tie.

In the Sun there's a wee report on Saturday and it doesn't even mention Morton-all Pars. There's also a big cup-tie preview in which the Ton get far less coverage than big Sanny's performance for E.Fife.

Sad times at Scapa indeed.
mortonjag 2008-01-28 10:20:52
QUOTE(stubaws @ Jan 28 2008, 10:12 AM) [snapback]391754[/snapback]
im pretty sure we're all just bored of u having a go at him, its getting ridiculous now. its ironic how u say he's no longer worthy of respect - pot...kettle...black???

If you're bored I don't really mind-you could always push the huff button!

This is an unofficial forum where we're expected to air our views stubaws. One of the reasons I'VE SEEMED to be constantly on about Rae, is that in the past every time I've criticised him, I've had a flurry of abuse, and I obviously have responded to that.

Now it's becoming clear that the penny is finally dropping-more and more fans are agreeing with points I've been making for three and more seasons, and I find your 'pot, kettle, black' analogy mystifying.

Why should Rae get respect, and why should I deserve disrespect for having the balls to stand up for my beliefs in the face of constant criticism AND abuse, including some nasty p.m.'s? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-28 12:27:52
QUOTE(big B @ Jan 28 2008, 11:30 AM) [snapback]391767[/snapback]
You say McInally got rid of the players how do you know it was'nt Rae that ordered it as we are losing money hand over fist as the crowds are lower than expected.

Precisely.
mortonjag 2008-01-28 12:52:18
QUOTE(stubaws @ Jan 28 2008, 10:32 AM) [snapback]391758[/snapback]
so is it rae's fault that ur getting abuse for abusing him? believe it or not iv actually never been a fan of dougies either, going back to the first time i met him probably about 5 years ago. i do agree with some of your points as well mj, its the personal attacks and (although u say otherwise) constant abuse aimed at him from yourself and possibly a few others that i don't agree with. there are so many threads started by yourself about the same topic, thats whats boring. u dont deserve personal abuse either, but having a go at someone on an unofficial messageboard every day is a hardly "having the balls to stand up to him" is it?

Firstly-in what way have I 'abused' him? Have I ever lied about him? How have I 'personally' attacked a man I've only met once? I have deliberately poked fun at, and caricatured him-something which I believe he thoroughly deserves in return for his pompous disregard of fans, and patronising comments towards players. That was also an attempt to counterbalance the 'Dougie the Saviour' stuff-ad f*cking nauseam-and you've the cheek to call ME boring.

He's a big boy with all the clout at Morton, and has a total monopoly of the local press, the official programme, and the GMFC web site-- where he can and does say exactly what he pleases-often making statements which have subsequently proved to be misleading, if not blatant lies. He has regularly 'had a go' at the fans, and at this forum specifically, because we have DARED to question his authority and judgement,-indeed even for not turning up to games as he demanded!

We have little opportunity in contrast, to make ourselves heard except right here, and so far as I see it stubaws, that's the closest to 'standing up to him' any of us will get, unless you fancy a trip to Golden Casket to 'punch his lights out'.

Now that some others are taking up the cudgels, I won't, hopefully, have to 'bore' you so much in the future, but I make absolutely NO apology for being correct all along-rather I am the one who deserves an apology for a fair amount of genuine abuse and the culprits know who they are! mad.gif





mortonjag 2008-01-28 12:54:13
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Jan 28 2008, 12:05 PM) [snapback]391778[/snapback]
Well said stubaws - I have raised the same point a few times myself - everyone has a right to air trheir views but the constant abuse is completely uncalled for.

As I already asked the gentleman-in what way have I 'abused' him? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-28 12:57:33
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jan 28 2008, 12:12 PM) [snapback]391780[/snapback]
Another winger, just what we need.

We have no wingers.
mortonjag 2008-01-28 13:08:59 Those questions are always hypothetical, but I'd have Alan Moore tomorrow. With a part time squad, he may be sitting bottom of the table but our goal difference is literally only one better, they have scored two more than us, and they have a game in hand.

That is the product of a man who can get the best from limited resources in contrast to JM who seems to have got the worst from a squad who, on paper, started miles ahead of the Binos.
mortonjag 2008-01-28 13:21:18
QUOTE(Scapaflow @ Jan 28 2008, 01:02 PM) [snapback]391797[/snapback]
Was just reading the Gretna Website and read this which made me laugh. Do they have enough support to have three sections of the ground ??? laugh.gif

Latest Ticket News
Tickets for the Scottish Cup Fourth Round Replay against Morton on Monday 28th January are available on the gate at Palmerston Park.

Home fans are allocated the Main Stand, Portland Drive terrace and a section of the Galloway News (East) Stand - through turnstiles 1 and 2, with admission prices as follows:


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http://www.gretnafootballclub.co.uk/tickets/news/

It is laughable, but what makes me want to cry is that spirits are so low up here. This is a game where on another day you'd safely assume we'd vastly outnumber, and outshout the bumpkins, giving us that definite 12th man advantage. It looks as though we're going to struggle to muster three or four hundred, and I haven't a clue if the TTG lads will lay off tonight and get behind the PLAYERS-well at least until we can see if they're doing their best.

I've decided to go-God knows why-but I imagine it's just what you do when you're a supporter, and I'll certainly be shouting for the Ton.
mortonjag 2008-01-28 13:32:31
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 28 2008, 01:25 PM) [snapback]391815[/snapback]
After all the fuss about Sanny's goal, has this just been swept under the carpet? I know the result isn't going to be altered, but that point stolen from us could be vital at the end of the season.

I wrote a further letter to Drew Herbertson last week Alibi, in response to his of some two months ago in which he said the matter was being investigated. I have specifically asked if he will now reveal the evidence which led the S.F.A. to believe the correct decision had been reached, and also the outcome of the investigation into what occurred between the initial award and subsequent disallowing of the goal.

While on this topic, I'd like to repeat that at the time of my initial letter to Gordon Smith, I wrote to the club, praising Mr Rae's stance on the matter. Needless to say, I received no reply to that.
mortonjag 2008-01-28 14:03:31
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jan 28 2008, 01:54 PM) [snapback]391823[/snapback]
It's no so much the general gist of the "abuse" that annoys me, with which I totally agree frankly, but the way certain people go about it. We could be playing some tremendous football but having shots of the line, off the post etc, just generally being unlucky, yet if the opposition scored the most ridiculously flukey goal of all time then some people would still start with the abuse and heckling.

As has been said, as dire as Saturday's game, and a good number of others have been, when the team aren't neccessarily playing too badly then I don't see what it achieves to hurl abuse for 90 minutes. Save it for the end of the game, and at least be willing to give the odd clap and cheer when our players do something good instead of just ignoring it and calling them a "wee p***k" or whatever the next mis-hit pass they make even if it is only one in the whole game. Even if you can't be arsed with 90 minutes of singing and so on, and let's be honest, who can considering how boring we are to watch these days, at least give the guys a wee bit of credit on the pitch when they make good passes, tackles or put together a good move. The vast majority of our players are good, hard-working professionals giving their best for the team and being let down badly by their manager, it seems quite obvious that they have become as disillusioned and disheartened as the rest of us and it isn't their fault.

That's how I've been reading it too Chris-it's only in the last two or three weeks that I've felt the players in general, and some in particular have lost heart. Whether you love or detest Douglas Rae or Jim McInally, if you're a true Ton supporter, you surely don't want relegation this year. It's got to the stage where 'one match at a time' is more meaningful than ever. Hopefully everybody WILL get behind the boys tonight, and we might just get something in return. If we see a repeat of the recent debacles, there's no harm in those who feel they must, letting off steam when it's become obvious the game's beyond redemption.
mortonjag 2008-01-28 14:10:46
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jan 28 2008, 02:08 PM) [snapback]391833[/snapback]
Who's Chris? mellow.gif

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OOPS---You are now Chris-MJ has decreed it! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-28 15:27:05
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jan 28 2008, 03:04 PM) [snapback]391855[/snapback]
A sh*t-stirrer, no doubt. No thanks.

I think Greacen's Genitals is a bit posh HH - O.K., I approve of you continuing with alliteration, but if it must be anatomical, why not Greacen's goolies?
mortonjag 2008-01-28 15:35:47
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Jan 28 2008, 03:33 PM) [snapback]391873[/snapback]
Mortonjag on the Webcast??? Noooooooooooooooooo! wink.gif laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-01-28 15:46:21
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jan 28 2008, 03:39 PM) [snapback]391876[/snapback]
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Gracious-my goolies were NEVER that big-mandarins would do nicely thanks!
mortonjag 2008-01-28 15:54:12
QUOTE(centralTON @ Jan 28 2008, 03:44 PM) [snapback]391877[/snapback]
As Brian Graham was running on to the park, someone could clearly be heard shouting " you're sh**e Graham ". FFS, the poor boy wisnae even on the park. I'm all for criticism, as the club is more important than any individuals, but at least he put in a bit of effort when he came on.

That sort of personal abuse is utterly pointless-as is abusing the team in general if you WANT them to win. The question here seems to be whether or not the TTG chants (which were clearly audible to us as we sat some twenty five yards away) were justifiable. Those guys were NOT having a go at the players-they were voicing an opinion as paying customers. I thought the timing could have been better, but in no way does it make them any less fervent than those whose passion for the club occasionally smacks of self righteousness.
mortonjag 2008-01-28 17:43:20 No doubt Mr Rae will be speaking to 'Gretna' tonight. It's an open secret that we want him-some even suggest the deal is all but done! Maybe something like this...........

'Well played Brookes old chap-I thought those boys of yours were magnificent tonight-good luck against Queen of the South on Saturday'.


Mileson-wiping a greasy bit of batter off his cowboy boot-'cough, cough, yes, they were magnificent weren't they-I can still get SO excited when we play nearer our real home--so what's your point Donald'?

Rae-looking slightly dumped-'We previously talked briefly about the Jenkins lad'.

Mileson-'Alan-yes he's a grand laddie-did well tonight I thought-didn't you-you could do with a player like that you know'.



Rae-puzzled 'But I thought you............................

..........

Brookes, I hadn't finished.....



BROOKES'....


'Blast, drat, and dammit I could swear he promised us a deal if we let them win tonight' sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-29 06:43:31 Should Jim now get a reprieve? We really must lay off him 'til Saturday evening at the earliest!
mortonjag 2008-01-29 06:49:12
QUOTE(stubaws @ Jan 28 2008, 08:19 PM) [snapback]392127[/snapback]
god you've got such a hard life taking abuse on an internet messageboard. although not a fan of dougie, i have no urge to go and punch his lights out as you say, i'll leave that to you but let me know if you do coz my money would be on dougie if it came to a fight. the irony is that, from reading your posts on this thread and a few others, you are probably a very similar character to dougie, your demand for apologies and credit for saying all along that dougie should go sounds exactly like dougie demanding credit for going for spl players and always releasing funds for transfers!!

oh, and i have never started a debate proclaiming dougie to be some sort of saviour. come to mention it, nobody has recently! on the other hand, quite a large amount of threads started by yourself on dougie (or something else that ends up having a go at dougie and co) have appeared recently, hence the boredom of the topic
in exactly the same way as you've "had the balls to stand up to him" apparently

You have merely repeated your last blab-nothing new!

I did not DEMAND an apology-FFS man you can't even read. Why, anyway, do you have a personal vendetta against this poor old man?
mortonjag 2008-01-29 06:50:18
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jan 28 2008, 09:25 AM) [snapback]391740[/snapback]

PETER WEATHERSON IS NOT A STRIKER


sorry. he's not. the more I watch him the more I realise how uncomfortable he really is playing with his back to goal. Behind the strikers.. yes. Let him collect knock downs or drive forward with the ball so he has space to shoot. With his back to goal it takes him too long to collect the ball and turn and only slows down attacks.

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mortonjag 2008-01-29 06:57:01 Just one of those things-last night Stu got to everything first-deserves great credit. Barry Smith has instilled a new confidence-he doesn't get a lot of praise but is worth his weight in gold.

Maybe he shouldn't bother training, come to think of it!!
mortonjag 2008-01-29 07:12:56
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jan 29 2008, 01:44 AM) [snapback]392372[/snapback]
To me that only confirms they both should've been dropped ages ago and that they had become complacent about their place in the team and only decided to respond after they were dropped. Although I'd say that's more true of Peter than Greacen.

I don't think the guys were giving a toss about their places last night. They were well fired up, and after surviving a couple of scares grew in confidence. McGuffie was far more influential than we've ever seen him and linked beautifully with Spoonsy for one of the goals. Young Graham who's come on as a sub and looked lost more than once was well worth his place in the first half-gave the Gretna defence plenty to think about. Kev and Jimbo both made several incisive runs-at one point Kev beat about five men in a row before pushing the ball infield to a mate!

Midge started as a wing back at Cellic-he had a superb game, and Scotty covered every blade of grass. Smith just calmly sat behind the so called 'calamity brothers' but there was no calamity last night and Doctor Deuchar would have been better occupied seeing a few patients.

Davie McGurn looked a wee bit nervy at first, but after that was pretty steady, though Gretna had few real chances in the second half.

To Spoonsy-well what is there to say-the guy hasn't suddenly become fit overnight, but against an S.P.L. defence he proved beyond a shadow of doubt that he will always be a striker! wink.gif

Last but not least, it looks like Kenny Clark's wife is getting a regular shagging from Leafy-another player who covered every blade of grass. sleep.gif

Two legitimate penalties denied in the same cup tie is outrageous!!! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-29 07:21:41 I was late and ended up in the home stand (which was quite a laugh as it was more than half full of Queens fans and the Bumpkins behaved like mice). I didn't spot a TV crew there anywhere.
mortonjag 2008-01-29 07:25:08
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jan 29 2008, 01:10 AM) [snapback]392347[/snapback]
Alot of fans will stick by their guns on their original thoughts, some wont. But lets not take the shine of an excellent, outstanding, fantastic win tonight. wink.gif

Exactly-until 4.45 p.m.on Saturday there's no point in spoiling anyone's pleasure after an outstanding performance on the park.
mortonjag 2008-01-29 07:34:08 I was in the home stand and watched as he came off. JM gave him a big pat on the back and he turned round looking a bit disappointed and sort of half smiled and returned the gesture. He had an outstanding game and was disappointed to be subbed but he was hirpling as he came off.

What can anyone say about Peter? That boy could and should be playing in the S.P.L. I know many fans are raging and have lost patience with him recently, but did he DELIBERATELY choose to have personal issues. Does he, for that matter, even acknowledge that there is anything wrong. If only this could be addressed in a more professional manner all round.
mortonjag 2008-01-29 07:39:52 I was sitting behind Arthur, Crawford etc., last night but there was no sign of Our Father.

Where art he?

Not in heaven-well only after the final whistle I guess.

Somebody suggested he's abroad at the moment-is this true?

Also-- does anyone have a picture of the new director-I have a reason for asking which I'll only be able to explain if I can see his mugshot.
mortonjag 2008-01-29 07:47:41
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jan 29 2008, 12:44 AM) [snapback]392314[/snapback]
Greacen and Harding ARE good defenders on their day, and by finally adding the experience of Smith alongside them I think we're beginning to see that. We've been crying out for someone like Smith to slot in to the defence for god knows how long, and the benefits to Greacen and Harding are blatantly obvious. Give them a break, for starters get a grip with stupid thread titles like this.

C'mon-the commentator was claiming that the two central defenders in the side with the second worst record of goals against were 'The best in the league' EM!

I think manchesterton was laughing more at the utter ignorance and stupidity of the comment than at the players. I don't think the said 'mouth' could have taken in the Livvi game.

Last night it went well for Stu-he got to the ball first every time and made Deuchar look stupid (which pleased me no end, as he's a big headed tw*t IMO), and with Barry Smith behind them the pair had an excellent game. That's NOT what we've been getting all season, but pray it continues.
mortonjag 2008-01-29 07:53:52
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jan 29 2008, 07:50 AM) [snapback]392408[/snapback]
As above. Unusual to see the lad on from the start and I'm pleased that he got a pretty good review on radio for his contribution. Has he earned a starting place?

I only got in after 20 minutes TT. I've been disappointed with young Graham when he's been coming on as a late sub-always felt he had talent but looked raw and a bit 'lost'.

Last night he was all over the place, winning the ball, holding it up, and laying off decent passes. He also had at least one excellent crack at goal. I was impressed.
mortonjag 2008-01-29 07:56:34 Many happy returns Weegie-BTW I hope you don't get a pencil sharpener as a present-look what happened at Scapa!
mortonjag 2008-01-29 09:07:00
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jan 29 2008, 08:24 AM) [snapback]392422[/snapback]
Russell's Rectum, Smith's Spine, Graham's Gonads, Finlayson's Foot, Weatherson's Walloper.

For future reference

I have some worries about Peter's Pancreas. Have you noticed Stiffler's sternum. Kevin's coccyx sticks out like Jimbo's jugulars. Harding's hypothalamus takes a fair battering in every game, and of course Russell's Muscles has already been hi-jacked by the club spy (where ARE you?)!



The problem is we've too many 'M's in the side., though I prefer McGuffie's macula to McInally's mole.
mortonjag 2008-01-29 09:10:01
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jan 29 2008, 08:22 AM) [snapback]392421[/snapback]
A goal from a one/two thirty yards out sounds like someone who'd do well playing off the strikers to me MortonJag smile.gif

You weren't at the game!

Thirty yards my arse! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-29 09:10:43
QUOTE(gorkir @ Jan 29 2008, 08:58 AM) [snapback]392437[/snapback]
That's how we won tonight, we didn't use dougies tactics

McInally must stay!

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mortonjag 2008-01-29 09:13:19
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 29 2008, 08:32 AM) [snapback]392426[/snapback]
The players will always get full backing from the fans when they look like they're giving 100%, last night was proof of that.

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mortonjag 2008-01-29 09:18:44
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 29 2008, 09:02 AM) [snapback]392445[/snapback]
Jesus, talk about over thinking on a subject.

Can you imagine back in the day; 'Did you see Bobby Thomson's reaction when he was subbed? What do you think he was feeling?' 'Oh, he probably hates us all what with all the abuse he's been getting. Oh and his dip in form is obviously the fault of the fans for getting on his back.'

Weatherson is a professional footballer and as such probably doesn't give a fiddlers fart what the fans think (except of course when he's doing well) and like all professional footballers he would do well to remember who pays his wages.

Weatherson gets his dough for entertaining paying customers DM. If he doesn't give a fiddler's fart what they think, he must be as daft as your post.
mortonjag 2008-01-29 09:24:06 Contracts, 'pre-contracts' and all verbal arrangements made under Scottish Law are binding.

Binding, that is, if either party insists.

If both parties are happy, they can be scrapped by mutual arrangement, with or without compensation either way.

That's my take, but check with a lawyer!
mortonjag 2008-01-29 09:30:20
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 29 2008, 08:58 AM) [snapback]392438[/snapback]
of course "cult" may be a typo....

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mortonjag 2008-01-29 09:35:54
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 29 2008, 09:29 AM) [snapback]392461[/snapback]
This might not be what Chris wants to hear but wither or not he has signed a pre-contract with St Johnstone I would not allow him to leave Cappielow until the end of the season, he is in my opinion worth more between now and the end of the season than the 10k (and the freed up wages) Morton seem to be willing to accept.
A few people said Chris could have been the difference in the games he was left out of, I believe Chris could be the difference between us playing 1st Division or 2nd division football next season.

His current form is good, but form comes and goes. The same could hopefully be said of Barry Smith, Spoonsy, Ryan McGuffie, Jamie Stevenson, and Jimbo, I believe-but I'd hate Midge to leave. He's another player who has been regularly targetted by fans as a scapegoat when things haven't worked out. In those days of wing backs versus the old full back 'cluggers', Midge might well end up as a classy S.P.L. right back. Shades of Haji there?
mortonjag 2008-01-29 09:41:29
QUOTE(tontastic @ Jan 29 2008, 09:29 AM) [snapback]392459[/snapback]
Missed the kick off after latching onto some diddery old fart in a rusty old wheelbarrow (saab with 2 exhausts) who I thought knew where he/she/it was going. When we arrived at a 5 a side pitch complex in Dumfries I realised that even cantankerous old gits make mistakes, and I resorted to TomTom and the other set of glowing floodlights in town to guide me in.

Completely unacceptable. Get it sorted! Anyone else get lost?

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Funny tontastic-I got lost last night too-some eejit was sitting two yards off my back bumper going into Dumfries and I was so blinded I ended up at a bloody 5-aside pitch! wink.gif


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mortonjag 2008-01-29 09:50:34
QUOTE(monyou @ Jan 29 2008, 09:45 AM) [snapback]392472[/snapback]
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Next time, let the monkey drive.....

It was the bloody monkey's fault- I got to the big Tesco which I know is only a stones throw from the ground, and while I was trying to work out which turn to take he shouted 'There's the floodlights'. Like a moth to a candle I drove straight into that sports complex-which BTW has bloody bright floodlights-very misleading, but the monkey should really know better, especially when he was supposed to be doing some reading for those exams.
mortonjag 2008-01-29 10:13:57
QUOTE(LuTON @ Jan 29 2008, 09:55 AM) [snapback]392478[/snapback]
Don't think the bbc had much faith in us getting through This was obviously drawn up a while ago
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/s...fix/default.stm

Gretna v Queen of South, R5, 15:00
Hibernian v Rangers/ East Stirling, R5, 15:00
Kilmarnock v Celtic, R5, 15:00
Livingston v Partick, R5, 15:00
Motherwell v Dundee, R5, 15:00
Ross County v St Johnstone, R5, 15:00
St Mirren v Dundee Utd, R5, 15:00


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mortonjag 2008-01-29 10:19:08
QUOTE(giz @ Jan 29 2008, 09:52 AM) [snapback]392477[/snapback]
IMO he was most definitely showing a lack of respect to us fans who travelled last night.He loves the adulation but cant take criticism and I guess that just makes him human BUT he needs to realise hes better off with the fans being behind him.He was also the only Morton player/official who didnt acknowledge the fans at the final whistle.
All in all though he had a great game and hopefully there's more to come?

Give the boy a break Giz-he didn't exactly give the fans a two fingered salute, and this is only your interpretation of what happened. He was hauled in for a radio interview right after the match by the way.

I guess Spoonsy may always be an enigma-his performances for the last wee while have been way below expectation, but the abuse to which he's been subjected on the forum has at times been well out of order, and certainly not demanding of respect.
mortonjag 2008-01-29 10:21:53
QUOTE(gorkir @ Jan 29 2008, 10:06 AM) [snapback]392487[/snapback]
It was siaid on the radio last night if Gretna had won they had sfa permission to change the venue of the tie.
They were given permission to play at Palmerston again.
I thought this was against the sfa rules.
So it looks like one rule for some and another rule for a SPL club

Could also be interpreted as 'Keep those bloody Bumpkins away from Fir Park as often as possible so that decent sides don't have to postpone fixtures'. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-29 10:50:06 Aye, the moany b*****ds are at it again-they can't take a fair beating, and that bloody Struthers will be trying to use his SFA contacts just like he did in the Craig Thomson debacle. Good luck Brechin!
mortonjag 2008-01-29 11:00:29
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 29 2008, 10:32 AM) [snapback]392501[/snapback]
The point I'm making as you know all too well is

a) footballers play for whoever pays them. Very few have an 'emotional bond' with club/fans. If you think they do you're mental.

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Edited to say; why is there a stupid smiley thing where I have typed b.

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Do you think Morecambe and Wise had an 'emotional bond' with their audiences?

The point I'm making, and YOU very well know it, is that performers naturally get upset if the audience goes against them, and respond to applause etc.

mortonjag 2008-01-29 11:12:00
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jan 29 2008, 10:39 AM) [snapback]392504[/snapback]
Theres critisism and then there is Abuse - Im sorry but I think he has taken a lot of personal abuse recently . When players are in a rut they need our support more than ever and how did the fans respond recently Abuse and Negativity .

I also hope this spurs him on to play better and get himself fit

I also hope we can all get behind the fans and help lift opurselfs out of the bottom the table

How true Scott-how true, and I wish some eejits who constantly accuse me of ABUSING the Chairman realised this.

You are so correct in Peter's case-he's been called a 'waster', and 'an alcoholic' for example. Anybody with knowledge will explain that those two things are entirely different. Most of the wasters I've known were not alcoholics, and vice versa, but both terms are, IMO, out of order, EVEN IF there may be some truth in either or both.

Peter may well be an 'alcoholic'-it's not exactly an uncommon illness, and an illness it is. Don't we have a club doctor, and trained physios at the club? Surely they would be doing something to get him help if indeed this is the case.

A 'waster'-well that's down to your own definition-if Spoonsy's deliberately not making an effort when he could-sure-he deserves criticism-but 'waster's a pretty emotive term for a guy who can still make a living from professional football.

Truth seems to be that the posters who are the most vicious and vehement in unfair criticism of players often seem to have issues of their own.
mortonjag 2008-01-29 11:15:26
QUOTE(stubaws @ Jan 29 2008, 11:09 AM) [snapback]392515[/snapback]
he wasnt there on saturday either

Two days left 'til the window closes-guess he's probably enjoying a holiday abroad.
mortonjag 2008-01-29 11:23:12
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 29 2008, 11:14 AM) [snapback]392520[/snapback]
LET THE GOOD TIMES ROLL!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bloody hell, they really see us coming, don't they?

The panic buy to end all panic buys.

It goes from bad to worse-what does Rae take us for-not one of his panic 'freebies' is still with us, AND he'll have to be paid a salary.

He's clearly unwilling or unable to splash the cash on what we need-that means we won't progress until something changes.I'm still tingling from last night's victory, but in the longer term it may be the worst thing that could have happened.

'After the magnificent victory over SPL club, Gretna F.C. in the Scottish Cup-it has become obvious to us that the squad we have is more than up to the task of taking us forward'.

Yours Aye

mortonjag 2008-01-29 11:28:38
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jan 29 2008, 11:22 AM) [snapback]392528[/snapback]
I doubt Spoonsy is either to be honest - We dont know the full story of twhy he is seemingly unfit/unintrested . Id like to see Mcinally send him away for a week or 4 to get fit . Surely he could arrange some fitness training at Septics new training ground for him ?

Not the Septic Tank, where all the s***e players get sent to sort them out?
mortonjag 2008-01-29 11:37:20
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 29 2008, 11:29 AM) [snapback]392537[/snapback]
He is in Germany I believe on business, not footballing business though before the stoners start

Hope he's not been sweet talking that famous German Confectioner Helmut Shoen!

Anyway, is he not supposed to be back here signing players, or has he left JM in charge with a blank cheque book, each cheque bearing the following 'Please pay to the bearer the following sum-not to exceed £2000 sterling.
mortonjag 2008-01-29 11:41:21 I'm pretty confident that will happen and the usual armchair fans, and glory hunters will swell the crowd too. We must now be strong bookies favourites despite the recent defeat by Queens, but don't forget Gretna are no great shakes.

Here's hopin'.
mortonjag 2008-01-29 12:04:11
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 29 2008, 11:54 AM) [snapback]392545[/snapback]
So if he makes the signings he gets bollocked by you, if he leaes during the transfer window - making it seem like he doesn't do the signings - he gets bollocked by you.

....your alzhiemers taking over now aye?

IF we make the signings we need and were promised it really doesn't matter who makes them. I was, as so often, only poking fun. That doesn't change in the slightest my overall opinion of DDFR.

Do you think we're about to bring in those players Puggs?
mortonjag 2008-01-29 12:05:33
QUOTE(Muz @ Jan 29 2008, 11:56 AM) [snapback]392546[/snapback]
I'd forgotten how much I hate MortonJag's posts. Had them on ignore but they seem to be back visible. Time to ignore!

No offence- you just say the same stuff on nearly every thread- in fact make that EVERY thread.

Really-you normally have me on ignore but still read every thread-WOW!!! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-29 12:27:54
QUOTE(stubaws @ Jan 29 2008, 11:08 AM) [snapback]392514[/snapback]
yawn, the world is just against you isn't it?

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Standard type of response from someone who can't answer the question!

Listen stewed baws-here it is again. I'm getting slightly brassed off with posters who keep beating the big drum about my 'having a personal vendetta' with Mr Rae. I recently spelled out exactly what I think about him, and stated categorically that I have no personal truck with the Chairman.

If you disagree with ANYTHING I say about him, by all means take me up on it, but stop behaving like a child, and I don't mean that in an abusive sense. All you are doing is repeating a false allegation because my posts irritate you. Now that DOES sound personal to me.
mortonjag 2008-01-29 12:34:21
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jan 29 2008, 12:25 PM) [snapback]392560[/snapback]
Well, f*** 'em then. I want men to play for my team not a bunch of pansies that get upset if they are criticised.

That would be the ideal world DM!

Big boys don't cry though-do they?

That is one of the craziest myths ever propagated, and footballers, perforce, simply represent a cross section of personalities.
mortonjag 2008-01-29 12:36:44
QUOTE(pgmsc @ Jan 29 2008, 12:31 PM) [snapback]392562[/snapback]
So tell us how often have you seen him play nachO

How often have YOU seen him play?

He's a bloody FREE transfer from our own division. That is NOT the sort of player we were promised-or should I say-believed we were promised.
mortonjag 2008-01-29 12:40:36
QUOTE(Muz @ Jan 29 2008, 12:34 PM) [snapback]392564[/snapback]
Ach gies peace ya fanny.

Peace be with you my son-press your own little huff button if you don't like fanny.
mortonjag 2008-01-29 12:44:45
QUOTE(pgmsc @ Jan 29 2008, 12:41 PM) [snapback]392567[/snapback]
Have not thats why I can't and wouldn't comment on how good or bad he is

Well here's hoping he's really really awfully good, and Hamilton have only released him because he's been frightening the children.
mortonjag 2008-01-29 12:48:56
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jan 29 2008, 12:15 PM) [snapback]392559[/snapback]
Agreed, but I don't think he has an injury record anywhere near as bad as McGregor, and injuries that have occurred to Jenkins I believe have been through football-related tackles, as opposed to just breaking down constantly.

I honestly believe Jenkins would benefit Morton greatly. I'd actually play Davie in midfield too, instead of McLaughlin.

I'm not a great fan of Scotty in terms of attacking football, but the power of work he got through last night just isn't in Davie's legs I'm afraid, and I do admire the latter's attitude and application. For me McGregor's one of those guys who flatters to deceive. He does everything pretty well, but at the end of the day does very little well enough.
mortonjag 2008-01-29 15:02:22
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 29 2008, 01:41 PM) [snapback]392620[/snapback]
That would be the King George Vth you went into - used to play there when we had a football team called Omerta (which stood for Old Men Embracing Recreation, Taking Alcohol). A lot of people make that mistake.

Well it's head out turning left, right at first roundabout ,straight through second roundabout, left at next and you're there-as I learned after I ended up at the same spot second time around!!!
mortonjag 2008-01-29 15:05:41
QUOTE(Tooth & Nail @ Jan 29 2008, 02:56 PM) [snapback]392652[/snapback]
Charlie Richmond.

Who's neither a lawyer nor comes from Pishley!
mortonjag 2008-01-29 15:10:40
QUOTE(stubaws @ Jan 29 2008, 02:01 PM) [snapback]392629[/snapback]
agreed it was a childish post, i regret stooping to your level (the stewed baws bit was particularly good i thought mellow.gif ). as i dont know who you are, have never met you and won't be upset if i never meet you, it cant be a personal thing i have against you. im fed up answering your questions - all i pulled you up about was the [b]visciousness[/b] of your attacks on dougie rae and his personality. the fact that these appear on an almost daily basis leads me to believe that you do have something personal against him. if so then fine, thats your call. if you believe that you do not then again thats your call but i'd recommend you take a step back and read your posts, imagining it was about someone else (who you liked) other than dougie. i, and im guessing most other people on this board, happen to think that you do have a bit of a personal vendetta against him and that your comments on the man are, at times, way out of order

If it wasn't for your atrocious spelling, I could believe you were a Lecturer. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-29 15:12:46
QUOTE(j-robot @ Jan 29 2008, 02:26 PM) [snapback]392639[/snapback]
You're wasting your time Stu, this guy is a walloper who loves the attention. Best to just follow the rest of the board and ignore him.

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mortonjag 2008-01-29 15:22:05 I wouldn't give a flying f*ck if the whole bloody squad was composed of frees and rejects and was near the top of the league. The club openly admitted it needed three or four players with experience, and has repeatedly claimed it was about to bring in ex SPL talent. We have McGuffie-not a leader by nature, and Smith on loan.

This has got little to do with how good or bad the lad proves to be-we seem to know enough to accept it's a gamble on a last minute signing who must clearly be well down the pecking order of choices.

Where is the 100k Mr Rae was willing to spend on Paul McGowan when we clearly NEED it?
mortonjag 2008-01-29 15:45:17 So the players are paid to do a job, and it seems that part of that is to pander to the whims of the fans. Scoring two cracking goals is no less than we should expect-a mere bagatelle in fact, but upsetting those gentle souls on the terracing is worthy of public execution.

This is only a suggestion, but could we not ask the club to write a code of pitch behaviour into each players contract. Then for example, instances of gross professional misconduct such as was witnessed from Weatherson last night could be appropriately punished by deduction of wages or worse.

Would the SFA allow the club to make wee badges for each player to pin on his chest (not hiding the millions logo of course) displaying, 'I am ..... and I love you all'?

Let's face it, it's outrageous to travel all the way home from Dumfries crying your eyes out because you feel snubbed by somebody you've been praising to the high heavens for months.
mortonjag 2008-01-29 15:50:35
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 29 2008, 03:46 PM) [snapback]392682[/snapback]
Peter can stick his fingers up at me, spit in my pie and kill my unborn children when he scores a goal, as long as he scores a goal.

Congratulations-have you told the 'Sun' yet?
mortonjag 2008-01-29 15:57:47
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jan 29 2008, 03:34 PM) [snapback]392674[/snapback]
It's very easy to slate the signing of Brian Wake, but during this month we've shipped out the duds and we've brought in players with experience at this level, something the squad was badly lacking. For that both Jim and rae should be praised, not slated.

I for one will refrain from judgement till I've seen him a Morton shirt a few times.

edit to add

I do still believe the squad is 1 or 2 short. I would like to see a central midfielder and a left back brought in before midnight on Thursday, but would be surprised to see it.

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You sure have a way with words-great to know this new guy's going to be FAR better than that useless c*nt Templesomething-FFS I've forgotten his name already. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-29 16:02:48
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 29 2008, 03:54 PM) [snapback]392688[/snapback]
yup im front page exclusive tomorrow, should be a riveting read smile.gif

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mortonjag 2008-01-29 16:30:33
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jan 29 2008, 04:25 PM) [snapback]392721[/snapback]
Well maybe dud was a bit strong. Should I have maybe used 'deadwood'? The point is valid though, the players we have got rid of this month were not going to be playing, so it's right to free up places in the squad.

Will have been ultimately unsuccessful unless we bring in another 2 players though.

I just wish we'd sign a bit more experience before it's too late. Last night showed what the current squad can do when they're motivated, but by God, when the opposite applies, they sometimes collapse like a pack of cards.
mortonjag 2008-01-29 17:25:57
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jan 29 2008, 04:41 PM) [snapback]392733[/snapback]
MortonJag, I think you've taken sarcasm to another level there. sad.gif

I feel I'm having a healthy debate with the guys here with my tuppenceworth and a few wee jokes. You're just takin the p1ss outta them!

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I'd willingly do that with a ragged catheter to a very small few Donga-but really, I'm only joining in the fun-let's face it, it's hardly the end of the world if Spoonsy's a bit huffy after all the name calling!
mortonjag 2008-01-29 17:36:24
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jan 29 2008, 04:42 PM) [snapback]392735[/snapback]
Maybe they do, but to ridicule the commentators for prasing our players on the evidence of what they have seen just is by extension slagging the players imo. Credit where it's due to Greacen and Harding, both were outstanding last night, at least acknowledge that if your going to slag people who praise them.
Also, just because the team has a poor record doesn't neccessarily mean that both central defenders can't individually be as good as anyone else in the league. Not saying they are or aren't mind, but we lose goals as a team, not just because of the guys at the back.

Don't be obtuse-stating that any defensive pairing is 'probably the best in the league' on the basis of one showing is preposterous-and that is all I was ridiculing. Let's face it those guys do that sort of thing constantly-some couldn't even get Weatherson's name right last night.

I HAVE praised them in another thread today BTW. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-29 17:40:49
QUOTE(Cosmos @ Jan 29 2008, 01:18 AM) [snapback]392355[/snapback]
Jim McInally has tried to play football on the deck since he took over at Morton. His weakness has been signing players from lower leagues who he thinks are 1st division standard
He now realises what he has to do to keep the team in the division
I've been disgusted at the abuse directed towards him
Morton will finish in 5/6 place in division 1
All fans that expect more than that should go and support the Old Firm
*careful, or I'll close down the Internet* was involved not too long ago

How dare you come on here and criticise our manager in your first post.

Frankly I find that-erm...




Disgusting---aye that'll be the word.
mortonjag 2008-01-29 17:55:09
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jan 29 2008, 05:51 PM) [snapback]392785[/snapback]
Though I can see Russell back in team for Sat? Depends if he starts Wake

Hey you-lay off!!!


Leafy was denied a perfectly good penalty last night AND set up Midge's goal. Not bad for 45 minutes against an SPL side.
mortonjag 2008-01-29 19:31:34
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jan 29 2008, 07:04 PM) [snapback]392838[/snapback]
Yep

Nope-the goalie clipped his ankle-he tried to stay up but had been impeded and was already off balance-sure-he finally let himself go down, but it was NOT a dive. I saw it from the home side, and another poster I've spoken to saw it from the away side. The question is quite simple-did the goalie impede him or not?

Very poor decision by Clark IMO.
mortonjag 2008-01-29 19:44:04
QUOTE(Deego @ Jan 29 2008, 07:41 PM) [snapback]392872[/snapback]
'Keeper never touched him. Russell has admitted he dives a lot.

Aye, and is also good at the breast stroke. Show me the video evidence Deego!
mortonjag 2008-01-29 19:46:49 Anybody know the result of the SFA emergency meeting today. Are Brechin still through?
mortonjag 2008-01-29 19:51:13 The squad's been updated to include our new defender!

David McGurn
David McGurn
Goalkeeper
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Lee Robinson
Lee Robinson
Goalkeeper
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Alan Gilbride
Alan Gilbride
Centre Back
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Alex Walker
Alex Walker
Midfield
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Barry Smith
Barry Smith
Defender
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Brian Graham
Brian Graham
Forward
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Chris Millar
Chris Millar
Midfield
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Craig Black
Craig Black
Defender
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Darren McGeough
Darren McGeough
Midfield
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David McGregor
David McGregor
Defender
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Dean Keenan
Dean Keenan
Defender
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Iain Russell
Iain Russell
Forward
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Jamie Stevenson
Jamie Stevenson
Midfield
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Jim McAlister
Jim McAlister
Midfield
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Kevin Finlayson
Kevin Finlayson
Midfield
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Kieran McAnespie
Kieran McAnespie
Midfield
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Lee Mitchell
Lee Mitchell
Midfield
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Liam Kerrigan
Liam Kerrigan
Midfield
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Peter Weatherson
Peter Weatherson
Defender
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Ryan Harding
Ryan Harding
Defender
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Ryan McGuffie
Ryan McGuffie
Midfield
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Scott McKellar
Scott McKellar
Centre Midfield
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Scott McLaughlin
Scott McLaughlin
Centre Midfield
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Stewart Greacen
Stewart Greacen
Centre Half
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Jim McInally
Jim McInally
Manager
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Martin Clark
Martin Clark
Assistant Manager
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Andrew Bryan
Andrew Bryan
Kit Manager
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mortonjag 2008-01-29 19:53:22
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jan 29 2008, 07:46 PM) [snapback]392879[/snapback]
that's the medical profession for you rolleyes.gif

Never a truer word spoken trumpet! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-29 20:01:49
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jan 29 2008, 07:58 PM) [snapback]392895[/snapback]
desperate stuff

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What are you blabbering about-it's on GMFC-the new updated profiles-nae Sanny etc!!!
mortonjag 2008-01-29 20:09:21
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 29 2008, 08:01 PM) [snapback]392903[/snapback]
that was a lot of scrolling for absolutely nothing sad.gif
if anyone else had started a thread called " great news on gmfc " id have been excited, but i saw it was MJ which saved me from being annoyed right now tongue.gif

Ok PT-but WHY is Spoonsy listed as a defender on the latest update, when JM's describing him as 'the best finisher at the club', and 'a striker'?

Mortonjag's always fair game for a slagging but somebody at the club with the responsibility for updating those profiles still thinks he's a defender,and I just felt you'd all like to know that! sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-29 20:11:59
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jan 29 2008, 08:04 PM) [snapback]392908[/snapback]
Let's all try and persuade Chris to stay, we can even promise to spell his name correctly. biggrin.gif Seriously, I agree, Millar has been excellent of late and on present form, will be a big miss.

Like the chief executive?
mortonjag 2008-01-30 07:49:43
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jan 29 2008, 09:27 PM) [snapback]393005[/snapback]
laugh.gif i had him on ignore for about a week when i first joined but everyone kept quoting him so was pointless, then as time went on i started to agree with the things he'd been saying for months and then he was away for a while which brought out my sentimental side tongue.gif

now i love him laugh.gif

The cheque is in the post my boy!


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mortonjag 2008-01-30 07:52:23
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 29 2008, 08:16 PM) [snapback]392919[/snapback]
mortonjag are you EVER off this f***ing thing? you know as well as everyone else that this was a pish thing to start a thread with. different if u came up with something funny now and again but it seems you're talents might be better used at the sunday post

Hey you-I was off for two months building my mummy's new kitchen-have you got a kitchen needing re-done-my fees will be very reasonable and a free medical check up is thrown in! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-30 08:02:39
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jan 30 2008, 01:33 AM) [snapback]393097[/snapback]
I thought Russell dived.

As I said earlier I've discussed this in a p.m.with another poster. We saw the incident from opposite sides of the stadium,which gives us the advantage over a single view, and we both thought there was contact from the goalie which unbalanced him as he was sprinting through for the ball.

He seemed to go off balance and momentarily try to keep on his feet before going down in a heap-I agree he ultimately went to ground, but surely the crucial issue is whether or not the goalie impeded him in the first place-if so-PENALTY.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 08:08:57
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jan 30 2008, 03:55 AM) [snapback]393108[/snapback]
Agreed
It was the chairman who said that bout Chris not JM

Are you implying then, that the Chairman is a proven liar?
mortonjag 2008-01-30 08:13:43 It's Old English as in

Oh come all ye faithful.

Probably has survived as a Northern English dialect form 'til footy became popular and has gone the rounds since.


Only a theory mind.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 08:50:14
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jan 30 2008, 03:50 AM) [snapback]393107[/snapback]
Did I f***. He's also close to the reason we never went up the years Airdrie, Brechin and Gretna did, so like I said, f*** him. A half decent season at full back in a team that spent every game attacking for the majority of the time ain't. He remained and remains as much a chancer as he did the years before and the Cappielow exits ain't moved... At least if McInally f***s off he'll try and take his clown prince out of the same exit. I'd far rather a team that gives 100% every week than one that gives 10% once every six months, if we're lucky.

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Harsh words but in fairness it is the manager's job to sort out issues with the playing staff.

This Weatherson debate will probably rumble on until Peter either gets himself sorted out (and I wouldn't be surprised if he needs PROPER professional help) or just goes from bad to worse.

This is purely an opinion, but it's possible that he's in denial of having any real problem, and as is usually the case in those situations, is VERY defensive when criticised. That would explain why he's upset so many of our more fragile fans.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 08:54:33
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jan 30 2008, 08:02 AM) [snapback]393135[/snapback]
Quick everyone - TO MFI!!!! smile.gif

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mortonjag 2008-01-30 09:01:32 Nobody knows what's going on in the Chairman's mind. If we beat Queens, and lose to Clyde, he may still feel it's worthwhile hanging on to JM in the hope of a money spinning cup run, and if we win both I reckon JM's on a definite reprieve

Lose both, and if he doesn't go we will finally have proof positive that Rae has indeed lost his marbles.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 09:04:51
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jan 30 2008, 07:50 AM) [snapback]393133[/snapback]
There's guys on here who have never liked Jim and our recent league form is all the ammo they need.

They will no doubt be gutted as a defeat on Monday would have pretty much meant it was win or bust for Jim v Clyde. Now I'd imagine he will have till the end of the season, especially with the transfer window being closed tomorrow.

I don't see Dougie spending much money to replace Jim. He's already shown he will not act with haste in this decision, keeping McPherson on (as a cheap option), not sacking Cowboy till 10 games into the next season etc.

I'm still of the opinion that the players are more to do with this than the manager. We can come back from 2 goals down v an SPL side, then hump them 3-0, but as soon as we go a goal down in the league it's game over!

Hopefully Monday has given us a bit of belief. I know Greetna aint up to much, but they are still comparable to what we are facing each week in the league and the players have shown they have enough to get results... just need to fcking do it in a league game!



Don't be a daftie-every true Ton fan was surely delighted with Monday's performance.

Are you suggesting, for example, that the players WANTED to blow the away game at Peterhead which lost us promotion?

I agree that they often look totally fazed when things go against them, but JM must ultimately carry the can for failing to sign the relatively small number of experienced players who could have consistently brought out the potential in the squad.

I'm assuming that it's not the case that he's wanted this all along and been baulked by the Chairman.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 09:12:24
QUOTE(ianton @ Jan 30 2008, 08:38 AM) [snapback]393146[/snapback]
he just tells untruths!!!.

Deliberate ones?
mortonjag 2008-01-30 09:15:25
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jan 30 2008, 03:56 AM) [snapback]393109[/snapback]
A fair assesment, imo. Graham seems one of these guys that could turn into a good player, but is far too rough to realise his potential. Hopefully, we can aquire a few players even on short-term deals that will allow Brian to go and gain his experience at a lower placed team, as I don;t think sub appearences for us will help his progress too much. He always seems to give his all, and for that alone I wish him all the best for us.

Every time I see Graham he reminds me of the young Joe Jordan when he played for us.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 09:19:39
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Jan 29 2008, 07:49 PM) [snapback]392885[/snapback]
Kenny Clark looking like he is going to puke at the sight of Greacen's bloodied head!

Caption


'Have those f*ckin' Paisley b*stards not discovered Tampax'? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-30 09:25:54
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jan 30 2008, 08:37 AM) [snapback]393144[/snapback]
There's that poetic hare and hounds comment again, seems to be a favourite of yours. I'm honestly not familiar with it, can you explain it please?

Just means folk who have no real opinions of their own and go with the flow.


Like most of the 80% who had full confidence in JM and have now shifted to the dark side. It's the same with opinions about the Chairman Donga.

Manchesterton is spot on. It's easy to pick out the guys who really think for themselves.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 09:39:43
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jan 30 2008, 09:32 AM) [snapback]393166[/snapback]
Wow, we have our very own arbiter of human behaviour on this messageboard!

I think people are perfectly entitled to change their mind about McInally after recent results. People are allowed to change their mind about anything.

The 2 results versus Livi and Queens were unacceptable to me and I'd have had no problem with McInally jumping or being pushed then, but I'm still behind the guy while he's here.

Not sure if thatputs me in the group that ManchesterTon refers to, but I feel I clash with people a lot on here due to my differing views on things.

I did not say people shouldn't change their minds. I didn't put the point very well Donga.

Do you remember the 'Taxi' thread. Until the away game at Stirling which we blew, criticising JM was not on, and those who did got dogs' abuse. Suddenly there was a switch of opinion-many posters totally turned coat overnight, only to resume their initial position when we finally scraped promotion.

It's one thing changing your mind and being able to explain the decision. It's another letting your heart rule your head, or worse still, having to go with the flow 'cos you're too thick to form an opinion of your own.

mortonjag 2008-01-30 09:42:03
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jan 30 2008, 09:39 AM) [snapback]393169[/snapback]
That IS sad! smile.gif

Here's what you missed:

60% - MortonJag, MortonJag, more MortonJag
20% - McInally must go, McInally must stay
10% - The Albert guys all talking to each other
5% - Great performance v Gretna
5% - DongaTon being an annoying smartarse

Just take the money and be happy mate. smile.gif

Pop up here oh hairy one , and the monkey will certainly make your arse smart!
mortonjag 2008-01-30 09:43:12 January is almost over.

Praise be to all Gods.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 10:02:42
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jan 30 2008, 09:51 AM) [snapback]393180[/snapback]
Far too many people are eating into this s*** just because we beat gretna in the Cup, 1 game and lots of folk think things are ok, i am still in the same frame of mind before the cup tie win. And there is a lot more shenanigans to contend with than McInally at Cappielow.

I came up the road from Gretna feeling on top of the world-it seemed ages since we'd won so convincingly-great goals, and against an S.P.L. side too.


Now I've climbed off cloud nine, and it's back where we were. Gretna, at the moment, are no better than the top three in division one-indeed they may not be as good. Queens mugged us not so long ago and MUST think they can do it again.

Nothing's really changed, except that the players may have got their confidence back, but look what happened last time when we convincingly beat Killie-a far better side than Gretna, then went back to the old shilly shallying ways.

I think JM has proved that he's not a particularly astute man when it comes to football management, and one cup tie doesn't change that.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 10:06:41
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jan 30 2008, 10:02 AM) [snapback]393186[/snapback]
Paris was last weekend, smile.gif

i just work 3 on,3 off that's all. No fancy breaks this week. smile.gif

with 'Dopey' standing looking puzzled until he tried Seven Up.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 10:12:10
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jan 30 2008, 10:04 AM) [snapback]393188[/snapback]
Aye, but the weather is still lurking in Inverclyde. First thing this morning my car was frozen, get to Cappielow and its pissing down, get to Town centre sun comes out only to start pissing down again. The weird and wonderful weather of Inverclyde smile.gif

The sun's away now and it's chuckin' it down. My mood goes up and down like a yo-yo on days like this. Anybody else the same or does the weather not affect you?
mortonjag 2008-01-30 10:56:41 Who's the guy to the left of Crawford Rae in pictures 1 and 4?
mortonjag 2008-01-30 11:00:08
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jan 30 2008, 10:45 AM) [snapback]393205[/snapback]
Was just reading that there, hopefully not until after the game mellow.gif

Can the covers not cope with the light snowfalls we tend to get those days especially at sea level?
mortonjag 2008-01-30 11:34:31
QUOTE(dj-ton @ Jan 30 2008, 11:15 AM) [snapback]393218[/snapback]
no idea mortonjag... ..

but the guy at the top of the picture (with the big scarf on) is the big defender that plays for QOS.
edit to correct spelling

I was sitting behind them in the second half-just curious to know if he could be Mr Donald, though he looks too young.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 11:36:36
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jan 30 2008, 09:39 AM) [snapback]393169[/snapback]
That IS sad! smile.gif

Here's what you missed:

60% - MortonJag, MortonJag, more MortonJag
20% - McInally must go, McInally must stay
10% - The Albert guys all talking to each other
5% - Great performance v Gretna
5% - DongaTon being an annoying smartarse

Just take the money and be happy mate. smile.gif

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shaddypeekey 26-July 05 309 8 1.18%
Deego 27-May 05 6,885 8 1.18%
tontastic 16-July 05 879 8 1.18%


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mortonjag 2008-01-30 11:39:57
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 30 2008, 11:21 AM) [snapback]393220[/snapback]
I think the local rag may be a little biased towards the St Johnstone point of view just as the Telegraph does for Morton.

Even if the events did happen in the sequence described, I have no problem in the club making it difficult for Miller to leave at this point as

1) He is worth more than £10k to us to stay if only until the end of the season - he could be one of the players who makes the difference between staying up and relegation
2) At present we don't have a replacement signed and there is a risk we won't for whatever reason
3) There is always an outside chance he could be persuaded to stay anyway between now and the end of the season or if not, we would have the summer window to secure a replacement.

I think the club are perfectly entitled to try to retain him, albeit, I think we should not have been in this position to start with.

“As I have explained to the player the £5000 difference between what they are offering and we are looking for would allow us to bring someone else in.’


That's the bit that worries me.

Penny wise pound foolish?
mortonjag 2008-01-30 11:41:21
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jan 30 2008, 11:38 AM) [snapback]393223[/snapback]
and someone usualy argues with mortonjag

'Inevitably', you mean! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-30 11:43:31
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jan 30 2008, 11:05 AM) [snapback]393216[/snapback]
I'd agree with you there, but report I read said something about quite a bit of snow even at low-level.

Oh well-if it comes to it the weans will enjoy it. We hardly get any snow nowadays-FFS my kids are only in late twenties/early thirties, and we took them sledging every year.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 11:46:40
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jan 30 2008, 11:42 AM) [snapback]393226[/snapback]
yes but im a student in james watt college and left greenock high school, we havent learned that word yet tongue.gif lol

Argue please!
mortonjag 2008-01-30 11:47:28
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jan 30 2008, 11:44 AM) [snapback]393228[/snapback]
Heh, that's just for today. I've been up longer than you. smile.gif

What's the longest you've been up then?
mortonjag 2008-01-30 11:48:45
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Jan 30 2008, 11:45 AM) [snapback]393232[/snapback]
f*** the weather....tomorrow is payday and i get my annual bonus to boot

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Radix malorum est cupiditas!
mortonjag 2008-01-30 11:52:52
36 HOURS LEFT
mortonjag 2008-01-30 11:57:41
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jan 30 2008, 11:53 AM) [snapback]393240[/snapback]
Indeed. smile.gif

Soon to be known as Wake's Willy?
mortonjag 2008-01-30 12:29:14
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jan 30 2008, 12:00 PM) [snapback]393243[/snapback]
Poor substitute, considering I was going to go for SannysSack. FFS JM!!! mad.gif

You missed McMenamin's meninges too!
mortonjag 2008-01-30 12:33:15
QUOTE(BorderReiver @ Jan 30 2008, 12:01 PM) [snapback]393244[/snapback]
Interesting poll results so far. Way over half the votes for Clyde loss/lose Jim.

If this board is generally representative of the Morton fanbase, and Jim loses to Clyde, he's going to get a real barracking from the terraces.

Beleive it or not, the Clyde game will be my girlfriend's first ever football match (her Dad was a St Johnstone fan and never took her, he was probably ashamed wink.gif).

I just hope I don't have to end up explaining to her that a lynch mob for the manager isn't a usual occurance . . .

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I wouldn't worry too much BR-if history is anything to go on we'll win the Clyde game and Macca the Moggie will still have three or four of his nine lives left.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 12:35:30
QUOTE(CJTon @ Jan 30 2008, 12:29 PM) [snapback]393253[/snapback]
Crawford's son!

I thought they looked alike-he's not studying business management by any chance? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-30 12:45:12 'Well folks a minute left and I guess we've heard the last of this seasons big signings, but...wait there's hot news coming in from Cappielow....what's that... oh a bit of a red herring I'm afraid folks-seems Morton have failed in a last minute bid for the entire Hamilton squad in a direct swop for their playing staff.

Apparently Douglas Rae felt that his boys deserved a chance to be taken forward, and claimed it was 'a more than generous offer'.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 12:47:35
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Jan 30 2008, 12:05 PM) [snapback]393248[/snapback]
blink.gif huh.gif me scuse?
no worries....wikipedia has worked its magic
"the love of money is the root of all evil"
if thats the case....call me ted bundy

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Whit's yer number mate-ah need a sub!
mortonjag 2008-01-30 13:03:36
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jan 30 2008, 12:58 PM) [snapback]393260[/snapback]
To be fair, the boy did set up the equalising goal, so his influence on the game was a big one. It would have been of no consolation to Hamilton if Brechin had been fined.

Someone somewhere has f***ed up royally at Brechin unsure.gif

True, but the SFA yet again show how detached they are from reality. Replay-aye I suppose but £10,000 to a club like Brechin is like a couple of million to the OF.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 13:06:16
QUOTE(pgmsc @ Jan 30 2008, 12:59 PM) [snapback]393261[/snapback]
So Chris is 100% truthful in all this? it's great when a player who was criticised constantly on here and and at games is all of a sudden a fans favorite. Chris pointed out last night that he felt at the start of the season it was time to move on i think that tells you all he wanted to move no matter what

Is there something you know and are not telling-you appear to imply that Millar is telling 'porkies'.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 13:07:21
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Jan 30 2008, 01:06 PM) [snapback]393268[/snapback]
Should be told to play it at Peterheid... mad.gif

in the snow! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-30 13:08:24
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Jan 30 2008, 01:02 PM) [snapback]393263[/snapback]
Does if your a pubecent young lad with memeories of the lass from the farm that you accidentally wondered upon...never to see again..... ohmy.gif

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Naughty boy!
mortonjag 2008-01-30 13:11:17
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Jan 30 2008, 01:02 PM) [snapback]393264[/snapback]
What a s*** rule anyway.

Although Hamilton have someone on the commitee anyway so it was expected to fall in their favour.

Scott Struthers the Club secretary is, I believe, on the Referees Committee-remember the guy who was behind the famous disappearing video of Sanny's goal?

I'm still following that up at the S.F.A. by the way. sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-30 13:13:27 Vasectomy for the Ginger one?
mortonjag 2008-01-30 13:16:30 Vasectomy looming for the big ginger one?
mortonjag 2008-01-30 13:20:17
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 30 2008, 01:13 PM) [snapback]393277[/snapback]
This guy might just be what we need - a big bruiser who bullies the opposition centre half. I'm looking forwartd to seeing him up against Jim Thomson on Saturday - that should be quite a battle.

He's big and strong, he scores goals occasionally, he's not a midget. I'd say this might prove to be an excellent signing, along the lines of the way our 63-64 squad was made up of rejects from other clubs.

Given that this, and NOT last season is the time when we're going to have to 'grind out' results, he may give us the physical presence we lack, and more space for leafy to play off.

I just hope we wish we had signed the experience we need in the boilerhouse.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 13:46:58
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jan 30 2008, 01:40 PM) [snapback]393290[/snapback]
I think he could be exactly what we need .

He looks the tipe of hard tackling rough CF you love to hate

Too often its us playing against this type of player and getting bullied

Good Luck Big Man

oh and if you read this MortonJag called you a P00F !

Just shows you can't divulge the names of the members of your wee association to any old Tom, Dick, and Harry!
mortonjag 2008-01-30 13:48:30
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jan 30 2008, 01:45 PM) [snapback]393291[/snapback]
Good point well made rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2008-01-30 14:13:00
QUOTE(Scapaflow @ Jan 30 2008, 02:06 PM) [snapback]393300[/snapback]
Keep it up mortonjag you will hit 20,000 post soon
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Hmm-I might have popped my clogs first-mind you I'm probably good for another couple of months! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-30 14:42:15
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 30 2008, 02:33 PM) [snapback]393306[/snapback]
We won the game so no advantage to Gretna, but was there not a suspicion that they had fielded an ineligible player as well?

We could keep it quiet if they give us Jenkins on a 'free'!
mortonjag 2008-01-30 14:57:35
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jan 30 2008, 02:49 PM) [snapback]393314[/snapback]
Christ...I've got the same patter as MortonJag!!!!!! sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif

Great minds think alike Donga


cue -Puggs....................
mortonjag 2008-01-30 15:01:11
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 30 2008, 02:57 PM) [snapback]393316[/snapback]
here's Spoonsy's own comments courtesy of the Telegraph

http://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/article...=2&id=19196

“We definitely need bodies in. The gaffer will have things in the pipeline. We need players to come in and help us along.”


What we've ALL been saying Spoonsy, but none so deaf etc.!
mortonjag 2008-01-30 15:22:39 Nothing on GMFC.net


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mortonjag 2008-01-30 15:26:34
QUOTE(northseaton @ Jan 30 2008, 03:22 PM) [snapback]393334[/snapback]
AS Bryan says I`m more of an avid reader of the site than poster although you`ll find this is no wind up. Anyway the fishul site will be updated on Monday tongue.gif

Smith as sweeper, and Jenkins in the boilerhouse--relegation looks less likely already-now if we'd just got McMenamin, and, and!!! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-30 15:32:56
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 30 2008, 03:28 PM) [snapback]393341[/snapback]
Take your pick

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDJK 12 has lovely grain-I think I'd choose that one if I was any good at snooker, but every time I've tried my balls just ended up all over the place.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 15:35:54
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jan 30 2008, 03:30 PM) [snapback]393342[/snapback]
My apologies if already posted, but noted this on the Tele website, book launching at the Spinnaker Hotel:

http://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/article...=1&id=19133

A must for all Ton fans, and perhaps an eye opener for the youngsters who never saw him play.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 17:24:01
QUOTE(C B @ Jan 30 2008, 05:10 PM) [snapback]393375[/snapback]
I'm sure the monkey will be nattering on looooong after you've gone rolleyes.gif

Let's hope so-he gets my Ton scarf and the singed picture of Mr Rae in the will. wink.gif wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-30 18:44:15
QUOTE(C B @ Jan 30 2008, 06:07 PM) [snapback]393390[/snapback]
Singed ? hahahaha I DON'T think thats a typo. Stop letting the monkey play with matches laugh.gif

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So glad you spotted that before some smart arse spoilt it, and my little garcon keeps telling son pere he's 'Le Singe de Scapa' !!
mortonjag 2008-01-30 18:49:03
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jan 30 2008, 06:15 PM) [snapback]393392[/snapback]
I think it is quite correct that Hamilton appealed, and if it is true about the Gretna also fielding an illegible player, and we'd lost - then I hope we'd have done the same thing.

However - a fine and a replay! Nonsence.

Hamilton should get through to the next round - which makes the punishment fit the crime.
The way it's turned out Brechin could still get through, play Aberdeen and make much more than �10,000 whereas Hamilton get nothing.

Fine's are nonsence these days anyways. What if Rangers had done it? £10,000 would have been covered by a couple of food stalls at their next home match, where as Brechin will be lucky to turn over £10,000 for a home game!

No doubt we'll sign whatever striker they have at the moment for a stupid fee and bail them out. Charlie King to sign tomorrow... £14,599.99 fee.

....presumably with mud all over the sponsors logo Piecrust! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-30 18:51:19
QUOTE(kilbrideton @ Jan 30 2008, 06:48 PM) [snapback]393403[/snapback]
What were the two old guys who sat on the balcony in the muppets called? Is it them on this SFA commitee?

Arthur and Douglas.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 18:55:36
QUOTE(C B @ Jan 30 2008, 06:04 PM) [snapback]393389[/snapback]
NOW I'm worried !!!!!!!!!!! blink.gif unsure.gif

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mortonjag 2008-01-30 19:11:53
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Jan 30 2008, 06:38 PM) [snapback]393398[/snapback]
I'd just like to quote myself from an earlier post ( 14th January ) when there were calls for him to be shown the door
Have to say it, told you so tongue.gif

We really do have some of the most fickle fans in football in my opinion and after reading Peter's comments in the Tele tonight I am very surprised he didn't wave the 2 fingers at the crowd. Some of the stuff written on here can be down right nasty at times.

I agree-in fact you could almost persuade yourself that some folk have a personal vendetta against Peter!!! huh.gif

O.K. then-a couple of questions for those who seem to have it in for him.

Do you think Spoonsy's first and foremost a total 'waster'?

Do you think he's deliberately been shirking?

Would you still be dishing out the same stuff if we were top of Division 1 right now?

Finally-and this is specifically to Eany Meany-in view of your comments about pub teams, free drinks, and crates of Newcastle Brown, do you believe Peter is a problem drinker?

mortonjag 2008-01-30 19:27:21 This has to be the biggest and longest running joke in Scottish football, and ultimately one man is to blame-the idiot Mileson.

Whoever dreamed he could wreak such havoc just as his bumpkin 'has beens' are slipping back down the leagues and into the oblivion from which he spirited them on that crazy whim.

Who let it happen mind you?

The SFA.

Gordon Smith's on £160,000 per. annum-ten times the salary of many posters, and I had high hopes that he'd make rapid improvements to justify his 'funny money', but it's become evident that it's a case of 'plus ca change' within those hallowed Hampden walls.

When will the powers that be in Scottish football, and I include Club Directors and Chairmen ever waken up to the fact that it's the fans who are keeping them in their cosy little pads?

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mortonjag 2008-01-30 19:31:26
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Jan 30 2008, 07:02 PM) [snapback]393432[/snapback]
People posting the ignore thing f***ing irritates me.

Ignore them and don't let everyone else hear about it, okay ?

If you're talking about Real Hoops, go easy on the poor chap or he'll have you on 'ignore' as well! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-30 19:36:39
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jan 30 2008, 07:22 PM) [snapback]393455[/snapback]
i've never been a great fan of sponsy.

i dont tend to say much bad about him unless he does play pitiful even then its not nasty. he can be a total waster at times. i have no idea what shirking means.
and if we 'WERE' top of SD1 would YOU or any of us be calling for mcinally to be shown the door or be nasty about players?

thats a blatant no, cause if we were top then they would be playing well.

I said at the beginning of, and throughout last season that we'd win in spite of JM. My opinion of him has not changed, but I tend to avoid making 'nasty' comments about individual players.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 19:44:15
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jan 30 2008, 07:30 PM) [snapback]393462[/snapback]
eh hows it there fault unsure.gif

They could have foreseen a problem with groundsharing Bryan. It was ultimately Gretna's responsibility to have a stadium fit for the S.P.L., and that was not done. Motherwell gleefully accepted Mileson's offer of, I believe £250,000 while the S.F.A. sat back and nodded benignly.

CLOWNS the lot of them.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 19:50:04
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 30 2008, 07:40 PM) [snapback]393475[/snapback]
Without reading the posts made by others or looking at the poll . Win , lose or draw JM will still be our manager come May nevermind the beginning of January .

If Dougie has kept him through the transfer window and allowed to sign players it would appear that Dougies faith is undented .

I have never thought the guy was up to the job so my colours are already tied to the mast no humming and hawing from me .

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Mr Rae will look a wee bit silly if we lose the Clyde and subsequent couple of games. Much havoc has already been wreaked over JM's ability, but as soon as the fans start questioning the master, Jim will be out before he has time to pack his comics.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 19:54:03
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jan 30 2008, 07:46 PM) [snapback]393484[/snapback]
thats the spls fault not the sfa

The SFA are the governing body of Scottish Football, and have the final say in everything. Even the SPL must do what they're told.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 19:57:45
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Jan 30 2008, 07:47 PM) [snapback]393485[/snapback]
MJ, there are some unfortunate circumstances surrounding the issue too though.

Remember why there was quite a few games cancelled there recently.

I'm well aware of the tragic death of Phil O'Donnell. I do not believe that cancelling matches in his memory was anything more than whimsical. Suitable and genuine tribute could and WOULD have been made at those matches.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 20:00:54
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jan 30 2008, 07:52 PM) [snapback]393493[/snapback]
Does that stand for....
Monkey Fur Inside ohmy.gif

Money for injections!
mortonjag 2008-01-30 20:09:47
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Jan 30 2008, 08:03 PM) [snapback]393506[/snapback]
I would agree with that if he had passed away in his sleep however for someone to go the way he did must have been a shock for all those involved in the club. In my opinion the Dundee Utd game should also have been off.

I'm not saying that the SFA haven't c***ed up with the ground share this season but I don't think they can be held to task for all of the called off matches resulting in the the need to play so many games a week on the same pitch.

Agree to disagree on this one ? unsure.gif

What am I saying...... laugh.gif laugh.gif Black is white and Michael Fish called the weather correctly that night tongue.gif

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If we all just blame God, there will be nobody to argue with us...



OOPS....on second thoughts....sorry Big Man.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 20:11:25
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 30 2008, 08:09 PM) [snapback]393516[/snapback]
Mortonjag formerly ignored laugh.gif

McInally feels insecure.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 20:14:30
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Jan 30 2008, 08:08 PM) [snapback]393514[/snapback]
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Lets hope its not a lump of coal and an orange in one of Dougie's old socks tongue.gif

A lump of coal in one of Dougie's old orange socks? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-30 20:17:48
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Jan 30 2008, 08:13 PM) [snapback]393519[/snapback]
You can't climb down from cloud nine. Its called a come-doon, happens when you take illegal substances. Has monkey been spiking your tea again ? tongue.gif

Not sure what it is about the cup games but JM does seem to get those right for some reason. Luck ? Coincidence ?

PS : Quoted the whole post just to annoy the bloke on a rant about not quoting you tongue.gif

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The monkey knows better than to spike my tea-he is forced to check everything before I eat or drink, such is my fear of the Scapa mafia.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 20:19:56
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Jan 30 2008, 08:15 PM) [snapback]393522[/snapback]
May you be struck down by a bolt of lightening and a plague of locusts come out of your arse laugh.gif

Thats revolting!
mortonjag 2008-01-30 20:21:54
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jan 30 2008, 07:15 PM) [snapback]393452[/snapback]
A bigger shame for the Inverclyde contingent who lost money tonight. laugh.gif

They'll probably already be too pished to give a toss.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 20:23:35
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Jan 30 2008, 07:06 PM) [snapback]393439[/snapback]
wonder if its been caught on camera....

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mortonjag 2008-01-30 20:28:36
QUOTE(mortonjag @ Jan 30 2008, 08:23 PM) [snapback]393528[/snapback]
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There's always a funny side to life's inevitabilities.

I remember Eric Morecambe's story about the time he had a heart attack in his car near the local hospital, and in tremendous pain managed to drive to A & E.

He staggered through the doors desperately clutching his chest and pleading for help, as the porters, to a man, looked at him and started creasing themselves with laughter. Fortunately he DID get treatment in time on that occasion.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 20:31:19
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jan 30 2008, 08:21 PM) [snapback]393525[/snapback]
To put The Monkey down ohmy.gif

Don't be a silly Willow-the Monkey's immortal.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 20:32:20
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jan 30 2008, 08:25 PM) [snapback]393531[/snapback]
like hell they do, the SPL alone are to blame.

let's call it quits and blame Mileson then! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-30 20:34:08
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Jan 30 2008, 08:23 PM) [snapback]393527[/snapback]
not a game id bet on!

Thats what the bookies seem to be saying! It goes against the grain, but the only real winner goes for the draw!
mortonjag 2008-01-30 20:37:32
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jan 30 2008, 08:29 PM) [snapback]393539[/snapback]
Knew 3. Although cat gut is made from plastic now.

Only in plastic pussies!
mortonjag 2008-01-30 20:39:07
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jan 30 2008, 08:37 PM) [snapback]393551[/snapback]
These are the normal admission prices - it's been £4 for kids all season. laugh.gif laugh.gif

Still kinda heavy on your pocket money son.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 20:45:30
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jan 29 2008, 06:10 PM) [snapback]392798[/snapback]
Hello,

My fiancee and I have provisionally booked Greenock Registry Office for our wedding ceremony on Saturday 31st May.

I am contemplating having a small wedding party after the ceremony for family and friends ; not a big hulla-balloo,just a small celebration, after-all, my fiancee has no family here.

My question is, has anyone hired anywhere locally recently for a small function ? I'd be interested in advice upon numbers venues can hold and prices.

Good man-nothing like keeping your options open.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 21:17:32
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jan 30 2008, 09:01 PM) [snapback]393585[/snapback]
i beg to differ, m'lud. it's not so much about having no opinion as knowingly trying to have it both ways.

not so much being on the fence as being down on either side whenever it suits. appearing to support both sides of a dispute rather than going with the flow.

although it's Manchesterton who should elaborate biggrin.gif

Apologies your Honour, you are of course correct with 'knowingly'.

Notwithstanding, many who 'run with the hare and hunt with the hounds' are incapable of forming an independent opinion, in consequence knowingly proffering both sides in an attempt to save face.

I hope that's correct, though manchesterton will no doubt elaborate at some juncture.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 21:20:46
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jan 30 2008, 09:04 PM) [snapback]393587[/snapback]
maybe you should give him some more then, dad tongue.gif

That might make you jealous son.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 21:27:09
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jan 30 2008, 09:22 PM) [snapback]393602[/snapback]
I like women who play pull the sausage.

Tirer le saucisson sounds slightly more sophisticated.

'Veux tu jouer a tirer le saucisson Madame'?


'Quoi?

WALLOP!!! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-30 21:29:08
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jan 30 2008, 09:20 PM) [snapback]393601[/snapback]
Was our last quarter final against Celtic at Cappielow quite a few years ago?

Probably.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 21:31:32
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Jan 30 2008, 09:20 PM) [snapback]393598[/snapback]
***BREAKING NEWS***

Talks with Jenkins have stalled over bonuses. Jenkins and his agent had previously negotiated a bag of "Half-Pounders" for a win, but it would seem that Morton are only offering two tubes of Millons.

The saga continues...
Any word on the signing?!

Aye-the half pounders production line are on overtime as we speak.
mortonjag 2008-01-30 21:35:30
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jan 30 2008, 09:33 PM) [snapback]393610[/snapback]
i'll ask mummy then - she's obviously incapable of saying no

YOU CHEEKY WEE b*****d! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-30 21:36:40 Welcome back!!! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-30 21:39:41
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jan 30 2008, 09:38 PM) [snapback]393615[/snapback]
The length of time this Jenkins signing has taken I think everyone at Scapa could've passed a diploma by now.

Diplomacy at Scapa Willow? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-30 21:41:25
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jan 30 2008, 09:40 PM) [snapback]393617[/snapback]
was there a game on,

Fraid I couldn't miss it Bryan-I'm a mile from Hampden! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-31 06:40:08
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jan 30 2008, 10:20 PM) [snapback]393637[/snapback]
Thing is though, I'm sure you wrote a letter into the paper a few seasons ago the week after a home win vs Partick Thistle saying the same thing.

Now, you would sack him even if we won successive Scottish Cup ties.

You could count on the fingers of one hand the number of Managers who've been sacked the week after winning a game.

It's this kind of irrational and constant abuse that really does my tits in about the whole thing. I mean the guys with TTG etc in their signature really shouldn't bother turning up.

Probably my defence of McInally has been more vociferous than I really believe in - simply because of the guys on here who would quite happilly have seen Jim sacked the day after the end of last season.

These guys obviously aint judging someone on their merits, but just on the fact they don't like Jim. They gloss over his successes as irrelevent,
and seem to believe ANYONE is better than him. That is their biggest error, ANYONE is not better than him. Yes, some people will be, but some people will def not be.

they also seem to think replacing the manager will fix everything and we'll do what...? - go back to winning every game? We've never been able to do that, but even when we won almost every game in the 2nd they still weren't happy. We'll still be stuck with the same chairman who has almost no ability in dealing with contracts or new signings.

I don't think Dougie will pay the cash to bring a new manager in. Certainly with our league form, a chairman would have been justified in sacking him, if he had any confidence he could bring someone in who was any good. I don't believe Dougie would necesarilly be able to do that. He would take the cheap option like he has done in the past, arguably with what he did when Jim was brought in.

And I do feel that there is a case that any cash would be better spent on the team, rather than a new manager.

Don't know if I'm included in the hit list Piehole!


I've had the unfortunate dilemma of thinking JM was rather poor from about the fourth or fifth time we played under him. I've constantly hoped he'd improve, and on several occasions when we've gone on a good wee run, I've thought-'maybe I'm wrong',- but EVERY SINGLE TIME it's then been back to more of the same.

Wanting him out has nothing to do with dislike, or personal vendetta-simply the feelings of a logical Ton fan who loves the club more than any personality within it.

You do many a disservice in your post-we're not all blinkered fools you know.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 06:43:03
QUOTE(Kekkoman @ Jan 31 2008, 12:50 AM) [snapback]393683[/snapback]
That link doesnt work btw

He must have gone to beddy baws.



West Brom closing in on Dorrans
Livingston's Graham Dorrans
Dorrans has come through the Livingston youth ranks
West Bromwich Albion are close to beating Inverness to the signature of Livingston winger Graham Dorrans for a fee of about 250,000.

The Scotland Under-21 international has been tracked by a host of clubs, including Rangers, Hearts, Inverness, Dundee United and Middlesbrough.

But he impressed West Brom manager Tony Mowbray during a recent trial spell.

And Inverness boss Craig Brewster has admitted that West Brom are in pole position to sign Dorrans.

Dorrans has 18 months of his contract still to run with First Division outfit Livingston.

He started his career as a youth player with Livi and has scored 10 goals in 26 appearances this season.


I am happy with the squad, so it is unlikely we will make any other additions before the window shuts

Inverness Caledonian Thistle player-manager Craig Brewster

Livingston manager Mark Proctor has said he would not stand in the player's way if a suitable offer was made.

"Livingston have been telling us that they are waiting to find out what West Brom are doing regarding the player, so all we can do is wait at the moment," Brewster told Caley Thistle's website.

"Dorrans is a player I rate and I would love to bring him to the club, but we are stuck in the middle at the moment.

"As I have stated on many occasions, I am happy with the squad, so it is unlikely we will make any other additions before the window shuts."

Brewster, meanwhile, said that talks were continuing with Ross Tokely, Dennis Wyness and Russell Duncan about extended contracts.

mortonjag 2008-01-31 06:44:54
18 HOURS
mortonjag 2008-01-31 06:52:23
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 30 2008, 11:21 PM) [snapback]393658[/snapback]
Is it for her ability to Bangkok?
Like I'm sure you havn't heard that one about a thousand times laugh.gif

Maybe just loves the lady and wants to Thai the knot asap!
mortonjag 2008-01-31 06:55:50
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 31 2008, 12:41 AM) [snapback]393682[/snapback]
i hear the song to be played at the funeral is

"i wanna hold your (wee) hand"

by the beadles

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mortonjag 2008-01-31 07:11:12 Who would true valour see,
Let him come hither;
One here will constant be,
Come wind, come weather
There's no discouragement
Shall make him once relent
His first avowed intent
To be a Ton fan.

Whoso beset him round
With dismal stories
Do but themselves confound;
His strength the more is.
No lion can him fright,
He'll with a giant fight,
He will have a right
To be a Ton fan

Hobgoblin nor foul fiend
Can daunt his spirit
He hopes he at the end
Fame shall inherit
Then fancies fly away
He'll fear not what men say,
He'll labour night and day
To be a Ton fan.



Original version written by John Bunyan while imprisoned for refusing to go with the flow.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 07:34:03
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jan 31 2008, 07:12 AM) [snapback]393696[/snapback]
It's like waiting for the new stocks of Wii's to come out

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They WILL though.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 07:47:35 As we knew would happen, this is the talk of Scottish football today, even though it was called off earlier than our match with Gretna, and the opposing side was from Glasgow.

Varying shades of opinion-mostly predictable, but I love this quote--


McGhee also said the groundshare with Gretna was not to blame, because the flooding only affected one area of the pitch, which needs to be upgraded.

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Something not quite logical there Mark!
mortonjag 2008-01-31 07:58:53
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jan 31 2008, 07:42 AM) [snapback]393698[/snapback]
Alright. Let's list 5 players who will either leave or join Morton tomorrow. 1 point for each one you get right. Winner owes me a pint.

1 - Allan Jenkins
2 - Ryan Conroy
3 - Chris Aitken
4 - Kieran McAnespie
5 - Jim McAllister



1/ Jenkins deal vetoed by the SFA after it was discovered he signed with an ineligible pen


2/ Conroy dissuaded by scare stories from Gowsa, who secretly believed Mr Rae was going to offer two million for him at five to twelve.


3/ Chris Aitken signs along with our new Manager-Alan Moore.


4/ McAnespie stays because nobody else wants him


5/ Jimbo knocks back a last ditch bid from Motherwell, saying 'I was ploughing fields when I was twelve years old, but that place is too, too much'.

mortonjag 2008-01-31 08:05:51
QUOTE(theton1 @ Jan 31 2008, 07:59 AM) [snapback]393701[/snapback]
It looks like empty promises again, every time the transfer window opens we are told of the superstars that the club are intersted in, we never sign them. dont get me wrong we just signed Wake 24 games 3 goals (he must be good) I never heard of the guy until now.
Maybe if we stop giving our players away, we could aford a bit of quality not just token buys, I hate to say it but for the first time this season I worry about relegation, its took us so long to get back were we belong to just throw it away, I dont know who the blame rests at, either JM does not know what he is doing or Dougie is holding him back. OR IT COULD BE BOTH.
There must be a reason why the targets wont come to cappielow, and sign for the likes of clyde hamilton and dundee.
Also the handling of Chris Millars contract was abismal, how can we sell players on when they leave it to late, we lost out on that deal. And Big sanny we paid 100K and gave him away,or did we?

Have patience -that's what I was saying at this exact juncture last time, and sure enough, we made two signings late in the day. Don't be too hard on Mr Rae-he'll be emphasising in his programme notes that we've already got Barry Smith, Ryan McGuffie, and Brian Wake. If only Jenkins comes, we've maybe not had our hopes and expectations fulfilled, but it could have been a lot worse-another experienced player on top of that and we'll comfortably end up mid-table.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 09:07:06
15 HOURS
mortonjag 2008-01-31 09:09:23 We have today completed the signing of striker Brian Wake.

24 year old Wake has been with Hamilton Accies for the last two seasons. He will be eligible for selection for the squad for Saturdays Scottish Cup tie against Queen of the South.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 09:14:42
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 31 2008, 09:06 AM) [snapback]393713[/snapback]
Are you even surprised it is more of a big deal?

Motherwell are a bigger club than both Morton and Gretna...and Celtic might be too! This fixture had a lot more interest from a lot more people. It was to be expected it would be talked about more!

Morton are potentially a bigger club than Motherwell-of course I'm unsurprised Puggs-what angers me is that if more attention had been paid to the problem after our postponement, last night's fiasco may never have happened in the first place.


Those who do not learn from history are condemned to re-live it.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 09:24:39
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jan 31 2008, 09:22 AM) [snapback]393723[/snapback]
Shut the f*** up ya w*nker, was having a laugh as most know what im like on here, away and watch the birds

A big seagull just shat on my neighbur's new car!

That WAS funny. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-31 09:27:48
QUOTE(kilbrideton @ Jan 31 2008, 09:22 AM) [snapback]393724[/snapback]
Tend to agree mate. I do feel a bit for Brechin though as this seems to be happening more and more and this in an age where we can find rules and signing details on the internet at ease. The SFA seem to be allowing the one of the oldest cup tournements to develop into farce. When a team enters it`s team sheets they should be checked by the ref aginst a list of eligible players for that tie. It`s the SFA that register players so it aint hard surely?

I wonder how often this has happened previously and gone unnoticed. It doesn't alter the fact that Hamilton are bad losers, girnin' faced c*nts, and have a presence on an SFA committee.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 09:33:44
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 31 2008, 09:30 AM) [snapback]393731[/snapback]
I understand that Gretna had an ineligible player listed (Kissock). However someone said that after the warm up he got changed and sat in the stand as they had realised that he was ineligible. Had he even sat on the bench, they could have been fined, as Queens were last season (£25k FFS!) for fielding Jamie Adams who had been an (unused) substitute in Killie's humping at Cappielow in the previous round.

Seems a rather obscure rule about having to sign before the original tie date. Typical SFA, and ridiculous to fine clubs like Brechin and Queens such large sums when they are struggling to keep their heads above water. No doubtthe money raised from the fines will be passed on to the OF in some shape or form.

Securicor van perhaps.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 09:38:51
QUOTE(theton1 @ Jan 31 2008, 09:28 AM) [snapback]393729[/snapback]
I agree to a certain extent, however we need a quality striker to get the feel good factor back at the club. Also with sanny gone we dont reallyhave much in the way of cover,we cant expect weatherson and russell to stay fit all season,I hope im wrong but I dont think wake is the answer. has wake signed yet??? and is there any news of another signing before todays deadline??

Wake's signing's been confirmed on GMFC.net.

Don't mean to be patronising, but many of us have been saying the same as you for ages and are weary of waiting. I believe the exercise right now has to be damage limitation. Hopefully the Club has learned from its mistakes in time to prepare for a better season next year.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 09:51:49
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jan 31 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]393737[/snapback]
ahahahahah Theres a first laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-01-31 10:18:02
QUOTE(bettybo @ Jan 31 2008, 09:59 AM) [snapback]393742[/snapback]
tongue.gif so did big Greacen not beat Decucher to every ball,on monday!!!,thank god McInally read the daily record blink.gif blink.gif

He did indeed-well the Quack actually got a header onto a post but we'll not count that. He, like the rest of his bumpkin buddies looked poor (or were they made to look poor)?

Anyway-onwards and upwards for the big ginger one??
mortonjag 2008-01-31 10:20:57
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jan 31 2008, 10:12 AM) [snapback]393744[/snapback]
I've had exactly the same discussion with other folk who swear blind something would be cheap at half the price - of course it is!!

You need to do something about those buffoons you keep company with Ratarse-in the context of MidTON's post Alibi is spot on.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 10:25:31
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jan 31 2008, 10:23 AM) [snapback]393749[/snapback]
Oh dear, one wee set of supporters have wasted travelling money to get to Motherwell, whatever shall they do? sad.gif

Travel to f*cking Dumfries and spend more, shall they? mad.gif

There are some excellent pitches in county Cork I'm told!
mortonjag 2008-01-31 11:46:56
QUOTE(dmc @ Jan 31 2008, 11:09 AM) [snapback]393759[/snapback]
According to todays Sun he should be signed before the end of the transfer window! unsure.gif

Which one?
mortonjag 2008-01-31 11:49:45
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Jan 31 2008, 11:46 AM) [snapback]393777[/snapback]
We have had a fairly successful window so far and if we can add Jenkins then I think we will have done reasonably well:

IN
Smith
McGuffie
Wake
(Jenkins)

OUT
Linn
Templeman
Shields
Gardyne
Keenan (loan)
(Millar)

I think that we have definately improved the squad with those signings and the players coming in are better than the players going out with the possible exception of Temps and maybe Linn. Shields and Gardyne were no use and they have been effectively replaced by Smith and McGuffie who definately add more to the squad. Not seen an awful lot of Wake, so judgement is reserved for now. Sanny wanted to leave for personal reasons as he was not getting a game and East Fife are likely to be in the 2nd division next season and Sanny has a job over on the East coast to go back to.

If we can add Jenkins to the squad and hold onto Millar, we should be alright. Our signings have been reasonably well spread out over the transfer window.

Shields was definitely NOT 'no use', and Gardyne didn't get a chance to establish himself. Both would still have been useful squad members IMO.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 11:52:55
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jan 31 2008, 11:18 AM) [snapback]393763[/snapback]
Just seen on the news, Brechin have been thrown out of the cup.

Slimy snake Scott Struthers with his forked tongue up important arses at Hampden.

Hamilton were gubbed by a side in a lower division, and they can't take their beating. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-31 11:54:30
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 31 2008, 11:43 AM) [snapback]393775[/snapback]
Hope it was Beemer cool.gif

Red Audi TT!!! laugh.gif

Now has a Hamilton strip!!
mortonjag 2008-01-31 11:57:07
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jan 31 2008, 11:26 AM) [snapback]393766[/snapback]
Or....You've been flamed.
Taxi!

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Cremation Peking style.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 12:02:43 He looks pretty broad-

I'd call him Widey.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 12:11:36
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 31 2008, 12:07 PM) [snapback]393802[/snapback]
Obviously from our response I need to go on the same diplomacy coarse as your good self . laugh.gif

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It wasn't JUST diplomacy Chris-wee Gardyne looked to me to have potential, and Shields would have been just the boy to handle certain opposition players, but of course we've been weakening the squad, at least in terms of numbers.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 12:13:41
QUOTE(Jamie_M @ Jan 31 2008, 12:08 PM) [snapback]393804[/snapback]
Widey wake?

Terrible!

laugh.gif

You have a better suggestion?

Finnegan's perhaps?
mortonjag 2008-01-31 12:16:35
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 31 2008, 11:49 AM) [snapback]393781[/snapback]
The Sun? Or is that a typo and you actually mean "son", i.e. Crawford Rae....

Which is more reliable? mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-31 12:19:09
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 31 2008, 12:13 PM) [snapback]393806[/snapback]
Don't know if we know have enough dwarves in the team now unsure.gif

Point of correction-dwarves are deformed-midgets, however, are little people, but perfectly formed!!!

If Brian lives up to his bustling reputation, he might be called the General.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 12:20:52
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Jan 31 2008, 12:05 PM) [snapback]393799[/snapback]
i amybe wrong, but did Chris Aitken not play for us before?

Yes.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 12:37:40 The Telegraph also believes Morton will sign one more player before the transfer window closes at midnight tonight.

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mortonjag 2008-01-31 12:43:08
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jan 31 2008, 12:40 PM) [snapback]393818[/snapback]
Works now, for some reason the link and the name that I typed in were round the wrong way huh.gif

Duplication young man! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-31 12:44:37
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jan 31 2008, 12:42 PM) [snapback]393821[/snapback]
It's Khali (or murderer, I suppose), simple as! rolleyes.gif

Hope it doesn't end up being Wally.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 14:31:08
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 31 2008, 01:19 PM) [snapback]393846[/snapback]
Is this you or the monkey talking? It's hard to tell these days!!!! In my lifetime we have never been bigger than Motherwell!

Give it time!
mortonjag 2008-01-31 14:32:39
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jan 31 2008, 01:16 PM) [snapback]393844[/snapback]
Yes, but what happens if we are playing at Inverness? A chant of "Khali, Khali" would be a bit confusing...

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mortonjag 2008-01-31 14:42:54 May the Dons humiliate the whinging creeps, breaking several legs in the process, before officially complaining that their club secretary was discovered altering players names on the Dons team sheet whilst all were engrossed in the game.

Hamilton subsequently fined £5 and Struthers suspended from the Referees committee pending a bribe.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 14:46:40
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Jan 31 2008, 02:32 PM) [snapback]393875[/snapback]
If the tele story is accurate and we could be signing 1 more in addition to Jenkins (fingers still crossed on that one)....what position would you want the new guy to be? Don't need names just position.

I would like him to be a striker if we are persistinmg with 3 at the back.

Similar to Smith (assuming he's going).
mortonjag 2008-01-31 14:49:04
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 31 2008, 01:18 PM) [snapback]393845[/snapback]
By "we" you mean her...or have you not gotten your hole ever? blink.gif
You may, I may not answer

Did you think you held the World record?
mortonjag 2008-01-31 14:55:47
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jan 31 2008, 02:50 PM) [snapback]393890[/snapback]
I'd rather wait and sign a replacement for Smith in the summer. More bosman's around, clubs ask for less, etc. Smith will do until then.

True-well Jenkins has signed and we've


STILL NINE HOURS LEFT
mortonjag 2008-01-31 15:00:12
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 31 2008, 02:56 PM) [snapback]393897[/snapback]
*predicts the "why is it we can get this from the Gretna website and not ours" which I'm sure Mortonjag is slevering over the now to post!*

I'd rather ask if you are proud of that abysmal adulteration of your native tongue. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-31 15:46:03
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 31 2008, 03:18 PM) [snapback]393921[/snapback]
Isn't that your monkey? wink.gif

My Monkey does not believe in sex before marriage either.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 15:50:29
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 31 2008, 03:20 PM) [snapback]393925[/snapback]
I'd love to be proven wrong, but I don't even think these days we have the potential!

We do-give it time!
mortonjag 2008-01-31 15:56:01
NO



Far too little, far too late.


Oh-well, I suppose it could be worse.

Credit where due!


ONLY EIGHT HOURS NOW



Get the bloody finger oot Shoogly.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 16:01:26
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 31 2008, 03:17 PM) [snapback]393917[/snapback]
What have indians got to do with it? blink.gif

Did I mention injuns? Your grammar and syntax left much to be desired, and you have been held to account!
mortonjag 2008-01-31 16:04:06
QUOTE(BluebirdTon @ Jan 31 2008, 03:57 PM) [snapback]393963[/snapback]
I'm not willing to judge this signing,"until i see him in hoops". smile.gif

Everytime we get excited,they turn out to be pish.

I think that's a wee bit harsh given Jenkins' record, but I agree in general. Far too little far too late, and the fans are drooling all over Rae already-no wonder the Old Duffer is so irrepressible.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 16:09:34
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jan 31 2008, 03:58 PM) [snapback]393965[/snapback]
What do you mean too little too late? Released players who have never really cut it at Cappielow and brought in three guys with Division 1 or higher experience in posistions we needed strengthened plus one more to come. Stop greetin' for a minute MortonJag

Jesus-here we go again-every single time the club does something slightly positive the past is forgotten.

What do I mean sonny boy?--------------------I mean it's


FAR TOO LITTLE FAR TOO LATE


I did not say it's a bad signing-credit to the club for hopefully beginning to waken to reality.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 16:12:11
QUOTE(big B @ Jan 31 2008, 04:08 PM) [snapback]393978[/snapback]
With all the negativity recently Dougie and Jim should take a pat on the back with these signings it will be intresting to see if we do in fact get the othe player in they are hoping to sign.

They deserve a little credit for finally doing what half the division's been at for weeks!
mortonjag 2008-01-31 16:13:28
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jan 31 2008, 04:08 PM) [snapback]393977[/snapback]
khali gets my vote wink.gif

Makin Ali signs Manik Khali.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 16:18:59
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 31 2008, 03:57 PM) [snapback]393961[/snapback]
Your first night as man and monk must have been a bit nerve racking then. Was the monkey able to perform?

You've got this so wrong young man-the Monkey is a person in his own right-why don't you pop him a p.m. and he'll send you a reply when he's finished studying for the prelims.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 16:29:47
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jan 31 2008, 04:16 PM) [snapback]393983[/snapback]
Where has anyone said the past is forgotten? It's a good signing and, overall, we've done well this transfer window. But, omnipotent one, what would have sufficed in your eyes?


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I was a bit tongue in cheek-of course I'm happy with Smith, McGuffie, and Jenkins. The jury's still out on Manik Khali mind you.

I still DO believe that in terms of the time Rae's been in charge, with us sitting potentially second bottom of the Division- it's taken an eternity for some eyes to open to reality.

Assuming we DO start to pull away now, I'd like the Chairman to come out with an open statement of intent for the future.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 17:32:49
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jan 31 2008, 04:37 PM) [snapback]393998[/snapback]
And as for the nickname, I suppose Khali would do smile.gif

Jaws' Baws beats Greacen's Genitals!
mortonjag 2008-01-31 17:36:49
QUOTE(tondaft @ Jan 31 2008, 04:48 PM) [snapback]394009[/snapback]
1.Ryan Balldichino of Gretna(sorry if spellings wrong)
2.Kenny Deuchar

Thought i'd put down two gretna players seen as weve already signed two of there 1st team players laugh.gif

Deuchar wouldn't come here but wee Baldy would be an asset for certain.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 17:59:10 [quote name='Scott_Gillan' post='394005' date='Jan 31 2008, 04:45 PM']I bet you cant wait to one of them make a mistake or Dougie does something wrong (In Your Eyes)

You are the biggest tosser on this board and are really starting to become annoying again

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Scotty boy-it's your blinkered affiliation to the powers that be, which prevents you from seeing the truth behind the 'hyped' criticism I'm constantly making.

Why is it acceptable for you to call me a 'tosser', and why am I not allowed to make legitimate points about a regime whose hallmark has been 'Too little too late'.

I was right about Mileson, right about McInally, and I'm right about Rae-almost everybody who slaughtered me in the past for my outspoken opinions has acknowledged that to a greater or lesser degree, but your tongue still seems wedged half a mile up the Chairman's arse.

You expect me to pay homage to a man whose only claim to fame is making sweeties and almost ruining his own ego trip!!! That's daft in the extreme. I WILL give credit where I see it's due-things at the moment are better, and let's hope they continue to improve.

Now to your 'biggest tosser' comment.

Would you be at all offended if I described you as a jumped up and arrogant little brat whose self satisfaction has blinded him to any respect for his elders and betters? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-31 18:03:16
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 31 2008, 05:09 PM) [snapback]394023[/snapback]
You mentioned natives tongues wink.gif

And I know my grammar is generally awful! tongue.gif

It was singular boy!
mortonjag 2008-01-31 18:04:45
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jan 31 2008, 05:48 PM) [snapback]394051[/snapback]
Happy with the signing of Jenkins I can only hope that McGuffie has been pinning for him to come on board .
Not seen or heard of Wake and we'll have to wait and see how good /bad he is before praising /slaughtering the guy.
I'd still go with ThornTon about a defender but if thats our lot it is an improvement on the gash we got in during the summer . The season should never have been such a struggle if we had a plan b .

I do think because of our situation in the league that we have realised we need to strengthen rather than a desire to build for the future .

Obviously I await the bludgeoning of posts declaring me a negative b4$t4rd over the last comment .

The rose tints were always lying handy Chris!
mortonjag 2008-01-31 18:10:50
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jan 31 2008, 05:36 PM) [snapback]394044[/snapback]
Now, now Mortonjag, that's not alliteration, is it?

Jaws' jejunum then.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 18:16:12 [quote name='pgmsc' date='Jan 31 2008, 06:03 PM' post='394059']
Respect is gained not by age and not with arrogant comments like betters


In MR Rae's case, it seems to be gained easily from daft wee boys who aren't fit to lace Mortonjag's boots.

Now go away nasty man.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 18:17:12
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 31 2008, 06:04 PM) [snapback]394062[/snapback]
What was just the one boy?

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Now you're being obtuse! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-31 18:19:48
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 31 2008, 04:36 PM) [snapback]393995[/snapback]
No, you have it all wrong.

I know the monkey is a person in his own right. I just think you forced him into...unpeeling your banana as it were smile.gif

Ah-you think we're lovers Puggs-well there's no shame in loving my wee Munx surely?
mortonjag 2008-01-31 18:23:39
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 31 2008, 06:18 PM) [snapback]394071[/snapback]
Codename: I win.

Accounts student 1 - 0 Retired boring old docter!

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mortonjag 2008-01-31 18:25:46 This is the sort of thing we have to acknowledge when we enthuse over current happenings at GMFC.

That's not a criticism-just a reminder of where we really are at the moment.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 18:32:00
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 31 2008, 06:26 PM) [snapback]394081[/snapback]
Higher B though biggrin.gif
That's because I'm in uni the now and don't have my own mozilla with the built in spell check. sad.gif

...and to think I'm going to graduate in the summer ph34r.gif

Care to diagnose me with a mild case of dyslexia please jaggy?

It's perfectly possible Puggs-spelling doesn't ultimately matter much in the modern world-except to old fuddy duddies who were educated just after the Ark hit dry land.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 18:34:03
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jan 31 2008, 06:26 PM) [snapback]394083[/snapback]
Khali it is!!!! biggrin.gif

Look at those eyes-definitely Manik Khali for me!
mortonjag 2008-01-31 18:45:38
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jan 31 2008, 06:41 PM) [snapback]394099[/snapback]
Baldacchino's a sand dancer, I wouldn't have him in my fives team.*
*obviously I would but you understand my meaning

He's a tricky wee bugger who would at least be an asset on the wings. If Khali/Jaws is going to be any use to us, we could do with somebody who can sling decent crosses over-something Jimbo and Kev do only once in a while.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 18:47:32
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jan 31 2008, 06:44 PM) [snapback]394101[/snapback]
would be a great addition but he'll prolly end up at dundee or hamilton dry.gif

cant get my head round whats happening at gretna. they spend a s*** load of money over the past 2/3 years, get into the premier league then release most of the squad and replace them with young loan signings from england. I won't be surprised if they go to the wall soon

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mortonjag 2008-01-31 18:49:02
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jan 31 2008, 06:44 PM) [snapback]394102[/snapback]
In all serioussness, I think this will give McGuffie a boost too ,having his mucker back.

People have been expecting a lot of McGuffie and this signing will take a weight of his shoulders and hopefully enable him to express himself more.

Please tell me I'm talking sense

Huffy looked a lot better on Monday and linked with Spoonsy for one of his goals. He'll come good-Jenkins will hopefully have a stabilising and motivating effect on the whole squad.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 18:52:25
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Jan 31 2008, 06:46 PM) [snapback]394106[/snapback]
MJ, a positive comment from you. People will think your going soft tongue.gif

We should be in the SPL Gash-I've never doubted our potential from day one.

A large part of my anger/frustration at our current situation stems from the fact that the Chairman seems to have lost his initial ambition.

I'm praying that Mr Donald is a good egg and will splash the cash in the near future.
mortonjag 2008-01-31 19:02:10
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jan 31 2008, 06:54 PM) [snapback]394116[/snapback]
agreed, and don't think we ever will

Well in my lifetime we have, and our potential fanbase can easily compete with Motherwell's (especially when Hamilton are doing so well).

We are also potentially bigger than every other provincial club currently in the SPL, including Killie, Falkirk, and the Midden.

The negativity boys are never happier than when they're having a good old moan-eh! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-01-31 19:07:46
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jan 31 2008, 06:49 PM) [snapback]394112[/snapback]
something your not telling me brooks unsure.gif

Yes, my mother and father have both been terribly ill. I'm just out of hospital myself for the tenth time this year, and I've lost my cowboy boots in the Chippy. One of the llama's is dying of AIDS., and that f*ckin' tax man's been sniffing around again.

For those reasons I've had to leave the running of the club to others.

Please don't blame me for all this-it was done with the best of intentions.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 06:57:48
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jan 31 2008, 07:32 PM) [snapback]394135[/snapback]
My lifetime's about the same length as yours and I agree with much of your post but we've never been bigger than Killie in my span. I remember them winning the league in the sixties (having said that, we beat them 5-0 at Cappielow that season) and I remember them playing Real Madrid in a competitive match. The always had a bigger and better stadium than Cappielow.

Falkirk undoubtedly have overtaken us as they were always a smaller club and St Mirren generally were about the same.

We've never quite matched the success of Killie for very long, but I'm absolutely certain our fan base potential is significantly larger-both in terms of size of population and also in its concentration.

Irrespective of that, there's absolutely no reason why Geenock Morton should not be a name on the same level as those other clubs we've mentioned.

Has the nadir now been touched-I'm hoing and praying.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 07:03:44
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jan 29 2008, 02:15 AM) [snapback]392385[/snapback]
I think you will find they were not all JM signings and there lies our problem !!!!!

Hmm!
mortonjag 2008-02-01 07:06:56
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jan 31 2008, 08:24 PM) [snapback]394166[/snapback]
And before the subject goes back to what it's supposed to be, I got 2 unconditional offers from the University of Glasgow today for Maths courses smile.gif

I thought you wanted to study anatomy! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-01 07:09:13
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jan 31 2008, 09:09 PM) [snapback]394198[/snapback]
If it makes money, who gies a feck! tongue.gif

That's the rocky road down which many a bright young man has stumbled GG.

Let me assure you it's frequently a huge mistake.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 07:23:11
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 1 2008, 12:14 AM) [snapback]394437[/snapback]
No offence, but you know the old saying.

"Arguing on the internet is like racing in the special olympics"

"Even if you win you're still retarded"

Neither of you two have helped disprove that this evening wink.gif

This boy has some way with words, -eh Bryan?
mortonjag 2008-02-01 07:37:43
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jan 31 2008, 08:25 PM) [snapback]394169[/snapback]
we had just been relegated and were bottom at christmas. the new year saw us go on an 11 game unbeaten run and we finished comfortably mid table. the next year (with the backing of jimmy greaves on saint and greavsie!)we won the 1st. biggrin.gif
be great to think we can now consolidate whilst giving us something to cheer and have a real crack next season.

i seem to remember the team in 85/86 being awarded a holiday in spain for their efforts only to lose their next game biggrin.gif

Football always has its ups and downs and I've a strong feeling we've finally bottomed out this season. I sense that JM's had much more input throughout this signing window, and that there may be less meddling from on high in future.

Leopards don't change their spots, but they can still learn new tricks.

We may now have enough impetus on the pitch to make the wishy washy stuff a thing of the past. With Barry Smith in defence, and Jenkins in the boilerhouse, we've definitely added experience we sadly lacked, and if Khali lives up to his name we'll get less of the powder puff stuff at the front. McGuffie looked much better against Gretna, and Midge is on form. Jamie will hopefully re-kindle his, and if Spoonsy could just sort himself! Jimbo and Kev seem to be on fire at the moment too.

FFS Forza-I think you're spot on. We will now finish fourth.

The Monkey said it first! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-01 07:46:43
QUOTE(Mr.Kennedy @ Feb 1 2008, 02:25 AM) [snapback]394456[/snapback]
This is all getting a little out of hand...

So is that bloody beadle beetle on your signature-get it to f*ck! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-01 07:48:19 Beadle's stuff was FAR more cosmopolitan.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 07:49:35
QUOTE(tondaft @ Feb 1 2008, 07:47 AM) [snapback]394475[/snapback]
just wondering if we signed anyone else apart from jenkins before the window closed huh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-02-01 08:55:56
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 1 2008, 08:51 AM) [snapback]394497[/snapback]
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Just when I thought that this board was doomed to the darkest boredom, along comes a glimmer of hope. Cheers T.I.D.

The theory of evolution and natural selection is backed by a huge amount of evidence. Who brewed up the primitive soup from which all seems to have emerged?

For me 'Nothing comes from nothing-nothing ever could', and somebody has still to come up with definitive proof of the non-existence of a higher power.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 09:03:26
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 1 2008, 08:35 AM) [snapback]394488[/snapback]
hey, i never made a prediction - just a wish

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What's going on BTW-no c*nts argued with me! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-01 09:04:38
QUOTE(princessTON @ Feb 1 2008, 08:57 AM) [snapback]394501[/snapback]
just spotted douglas raes car outside mcleans museum when i was walking up to college. maybe that him in fixing up an old dinosaur for the rest of the season??? tongue.gif

Can he not put on the make-up at home Princess?
mortonjag 2008-02-01 09:06:15
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 1 2008, 08:18 AM) [snapback]394484[/snapback]
What you going on about today?

Connotations.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 09:07:22
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 1 2008, 08:40 AM) [snapback]394490[/snapback]
Don't let anyone say that standards are slipping in Higher English... smile.gif

Good to hear your news WDE - I hope you and the soon-to-be Mrs End (or is she going to go for the hyphenated Mrs Dublin-End which sounds quite aristocratic?) will be very happy.

Wee Mrs Dublin-End?
mortonjag 2008-02-01 09:09:51
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 1 2008, 08:17 AM) [snapback]394483[/snapback]
he might for example be happier as a lumberjack

....and put on ladies clothing just like his dear Mama?
mortonjag 2008-02-01 09:12:01
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 1 2008, 09:08 AM) [snapback]394510[/snapback]
I fail to see it!

Clue-'retarded'!
mortonjag 2008-02-01 09:13:47
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 1 2008, 09:04 AM) [snapback]394505[/snapback]
That'll be the day when someone can come up with 'definitive proof' that something or someone doesn't exist. Maybe there is or maybe there isn't an invisible bogeyman lurking in your cupboard. biggrin.gif

Shouldn't that be my 'invisible' cupboard DE?
mortonjag 2008-02-01 09:20:42
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 1 2008, 09:09 AM) [snapback]394512[/snapback]
That was harsh of you Mentaljag, harsh.

Couldn't resist the lead from the lady in the Ton tutu.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 09:23:43
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 1 2008, 09:17 AM) [snapback]394518[/snapback]
You can't fool me Mentaljag, I can see through your transparency. You're the invisible man, aren't you?

I must be DE. When I look in the mirror I can see right through to some decrepit old dosser standing behind me.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 09:24:42
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 1 2008, 08:54 AM) [snapback]394499[/snapback]
Aye, Country Joe MacDonald. Just as he said, f*** the War.

Poppy myxomatosis would sort all those c*nts out!
mortonjag 2008-02-01 09:49:00
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 1 2008, 09:39 AM) [snapback]394523[/snapback]
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Sounds (or looks) strangely familiar.

Divisible invisibility!
mortonjag 2008-02-01 09:58:41
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 1 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]394527[/snapback]
If they play him and we lose, we can complain. Got to be a positive thing, surely? biggrin.gif

They won't and we will win!
mortonjag 2008-02-01 10:00:40
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 1 2008, 09:52 AM) [snapback]394528[/snapback]
There's a contradiction in there surely. Pascal's wager is founded on self interest whereas Jesus Christ, so they tell me, was all about selflessness. And I'm not a betting man.

Haud on-are we talking about a creator being here or just Christian philosophy?
mortonjag 2008-02-01 10:09:45 The club has, this afternoon, completed the signing of midfielder Allan Jenkins.

The player reached agreement with Gretna today regarding his release, and this allowed the signing to finally be completed.

Jenkins will not, however, be eligible for Saturdays Scottish Cup match, having played for Gretna against Morton in the 4th Round.


Nothing like a big welcome to 'Jenkins'-eh? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-01 10:11:36
QUOTE(northseaton @ Feb 1 2008, 10:09 AM) [snapback]394538[/snapback]
Dorrans is staying put until the end of the season so I would doubt that would be the stumbling block to Snodgrass being sold, over the piece i`m happy with our acquisitions

I'm happy too as an interim measure.

What do you envisage for next season?
mortonjag 2008-02-01 10:13:50
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 1 2008, 10:12 AM) [snapback]394542[/snapback]
Only you could turn a positive into a negative wink.gif

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Well it definitely wasn't written in Shooglyesque-that'll come later in the programme no doubt! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-01 10:15:29
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Feb 1 2008, 10:12 AM) [snapback]394541[/snapback]
Im kind of happy but another PROVEN striker wouldnt have gone a miss imo. Still, best of luck to Mr Wake and Jenkins.
also
http://www.cpfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Profi...3~40093,00.html

Is Moses coming to lead us to the promised land Gibby?
mortonjag 2008-02-01 10:22:00
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 1 2008, 10:17 AM) [snapback]394547[/snapback]
Maybe you could get some tablets from him rolleyes.gif

I'd probably find his rod more useful!
mortonjag 2008-02-01 10:26:17 The 'feel good' factor's back. I can't honestly see us blowing this one. They will make it very difficult-that's for sure, but I predict an ultimately handsome victory, with goals from Spoonsy and Leafy.

Consolation goal to them near the end, but too late!!! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-01 10:29:18
QUOTE(northseaton @ Feb 1 2008, 10:22 AM) [snapback]394550[/snapback]
Overall the team set up will look good for a mid-table finish come May. The whole spine of the team is populated with guys all well over 6 feet tall and will hopefully enable us to impose ourselves on the opposition. My one and only criticism of Morton teams in the past is that they were too lightweight.

I think the penny has dropped down Cappielow way and whilst I can understand the sentiment in giving the players who got us promoted the opportunity to compete against better players it has to some degree backfired. The latest signings will rectify this IMHO.

As for summer signings I would like to think we could attract a proven goal scorer , another centre half and recognised full backs. With recognised full backs this allows the manager to alter the formation to nulify a team with wingers as an example , putting a big lumbering centre half up against a decent winger only ever results in the defender being ripped apart.

Exactly, and I'd love to see one traditional winger in the squad-that would be an extra string to the bow.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 10:41:27
QUOTE(northseaton @ Feb 1 2008, 10:34 AM) [snapback]394558[/snapback]
I honestly think we will beat them this time , the same mistakes will not happen as last time when we stood of their sub and let him have 2 clear shots at goal , effectively game over.

The crowd can play a big part on saturday , there was next to no negativity from the travelling support at Palmerston and it certainly helps the players. I hope that with the significant investment by the board that the fans recognise what they are trying to achieve both on and off the park and give them the team there full backing for 90 mins.

The whole shed signing on Saturday will make one hell of a difference on Saturday and will only spur the players on. Keep the booing on saturday to when they read out the scores of the teams we don`t like rolleyes.gif

Queens will bring a good support and that hopefully will be the catalyst the Shed needs.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 10:43:36
QUOTE(Malt @ Feb 1 2008, 10:33 AM) [snapback]394555[/snapback]

'Morton have all players available for tomorrow's fifth round Scottish Cup match against St Johnstone at Cappielow'

Aye right-Jenkins included! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-01 10:45:41
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 1 2008, 10:43 AM) [snapback]394566[/snapback]
He doesn't do miracles laugh.gif

Certainly knew all about the burning bush!
mortonjag 2008-02-01 10:46:51
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Feb 1 2008, 10:42 AM) [snapback]394565[/snapback]
He signed for QoS last night.

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mortonjag 2008-02-01 10:50:57
QUOTE(northseaton @ Feb 1 2008, 10:47 AM) [snapback]394571[/snapback]
Agreed and with their backing we can win this tie. If people only realise the revenue that the next round could bring , gate receipts , tv money potentially live televised game etc etc. This could then provide the funds for the players we would like to see arriving pre-season become a distinct possibility due to the revenue this cup run can generate.

Negativity does not help the players to perform...wake up (not the new signing) and smell the roses

Coffee will do me, but aye-an away tie against one of the OF-with the inevitable replay at Cappielow is a mouth watering prospect!
mortonjag 2008-02-01 10:54:31
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 1 2008, 10:36 AM) [snapback]394559[/snapback]
I'm talking about Pascal's wager about belief or non-belief in the Christian God. Whatever, I think it's pointless arguing about whether God exists or doesn't. Faith is above and beyond reason (and wagers) I reckon. My atheism is just as much a belief as another's theism. There are great stories, prose and poetry in the Bible though, at least in the Authorised Version that I was familiar with. I haven't yet found any similar joy in an atheist treatise. Dawkins latest is dull in the extreme.

Fairy Nuff.

I'm very fond of the 23rd psalm myself David!
mortonjag 2008-02-01 10:56:16
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Feb 1 2008, 10:41 AM) [snapback]394562[/snapback]
TiD, Ihad the mornng off today, so i had a quick look at your sums. and have realised that x to the power of n plus y to the power n equals
crocodiles

Remember the man from Bengal who had the hexagonal ball?

The molecular weight of his Willy-times eight
was half the square root of


f*** ALL.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 11:09:58
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Feb 1 2008, 11:04 AM) [snapback]394576[/snapback]
Cant really say tbh wink.gif

You and your black secrets!
mortonjag 2008-02-01 11:27:37
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 1 2008, 11:07 AM) [snapback]394577[/snapback]
......And the man from Madras
whose bollocks were made out of brass
when they clanged together
they played 'stormy weather'
and lightning shot out of his ass.

Another variety of Indian balls.

And the sweet little angel from Thrace who could no longer fasten her stays, and whose Mother said 'Nelly , there's more in that belly than ever got in through your face'.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 11:40:06
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 1 2008, 11:36 AM) [snapback]394595[/snapback]
My dear departed Mammy was a member of the East Kirk, just down the road in Regent Street, until they knocked it down to build sheltered housing. When places of quiet contemplation like that unfortunately become surplus to society's requirements, they are better knocked down I think, rather than converted into carpet warehouses or even worse, nightclubs.

Or converted into flats in Pollokshaws Road? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-01 11:41:56
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 1 2008, 11:40 AM) [snapback]394597[/snapback]
He's alive and well and still doing the Lord's work Geordie ! He is now a published author - if you google for his name and "keep it cheery" you'll get there - his son Scott is now a minister in the Navy, and his two daughters are doing swimmingly. Keep It Cheery is at times a laugh out loud book - he has another published and just got word before Christmas that his new novel had also been accepted for publication.

His no-pressure approach to Christianity, his innate sense of humour, his energy to the Church and his joie de vivre had a marked impact on my life - along with a certain Auntie Maureen (well she was my girlfriends Auntie but I'm claiming her for my own) who taught me far more about being a good person than she will ever know.

TonInDublin

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mortonjag 2008-02-01 11:46:48
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 1 2008, 11:45 AM) [snapback]394602[/snapback]
Only you MJ, only you !!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Didn't even notice that. For the record, keel-hauling has been illegal for hundreds of years so trust me they are doing very well for themselves !

TonInDublin

Wasn't quite sure if it was intentional or not! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-01 11:49:15
QUOTE(El gofer @ Feb 1 2008, 11:43 AM) [snapback]394599[/snapback]
We have mellowed and you seem less cantankerous!!

Things can change though.........!

I remember Jimmy Simpson's testimonial. It was a league select playing in morton strips against Rangers with Butcher Woods McCoist etc. Jim Leighton was in goal for the Ton. Robertson nearly broke the Sinclair Street cross bar with a volley from about 35 yards.

Different era I spose. You would not get the top players turning out for a friendly on a sunday now.

Too busy poncing around the fashionable shopping malls with their WAGS!! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-01 13:42:15 laugh.gif
It never fails to amuse me when folks start those debates and then resort to spewing back what they've read in books.

No harm in reading if you can be arsed, but I prefer to think for myself.

You said,

'There is no "debate" between evolution and God because one is a matter of reason and observation and the other is of faith and metaphysics.'

That surely depends ultimately on your definition of 'God', and your perception of the finite versus the infinite.

When 'reason and observation' can explain to me what came before the 'beginning of everything' I'll call that unreasonable, or perhaps 'God'.

Reason and observation are limited by available information. Maybe it requires a broader, and not a narrower intellect to embrace the possibilityof a power higher than anything so far defined in our little universe.

For the time being I remain an uninformed agnostic! wink.gif

mortonjag 2008-02-01 13:56:49
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Feb 1 2008, 12:42 PM) [snapback]394623[/snapback]
Better than being written in Jagesque (s***e)

That's where you are wrong my child. The Jag has a University degree in English. Mind you, it comes as no surprise that YOU prefer the stilted offerings of the Shooglemeister.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 14:02:05
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 1 2008, 01:14 PM) [snapback]394635[/snapback]
The thought of us having a chance at the semi's (mortonjag especially, wonder when the last time he saw a semi was laugh.gif) is enough for everyone to get behind the team. If we don't do it, so be it...league duty ressumes the following week.

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Now that WAS funnny Puggs.

Nice to see you manage it once in a while too! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-01 14:07:23
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 1 2008, 12:04 PM) [snapback]394607[/snapback]
Common sense is a social construct, though, otherwise it would just be "sense." Common is supposed to indicate that it is widespread or universal but instead it just displays popular sanction.

I'm not really a relativist but common sense is a dodgy concept.

Possibly no two people have an identical perception of the definition of 'common sense', but the term is used meaningfully throughout the English speaking world. That's enough for me.

Common sense, in fact.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 14:09:36
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 1 2008, 01:17 PM) [snapback]394637[/snapback]
I still fail to see it.

I get the feeling your attempting to make something out of nothing due to a word I used, one which I have still heard recently in American news reports.

I will not raise it it, have to do better wink.gif

Generation gap perhaps-maybe the connotation I have for 'retarded' has become effete.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 14:10:13
QUOTE(irvineTON @ Feb 1 2008, 01:14 PM) [snapback]394633[/snapback]
What's the weather like down Greenock way?
I've had some blizzards up here in Lossiemouth and have heard that the A9 has been closed! ohmy.gif sad.gif
Will the game defo be on??????

Noticed Motherwell game has been postponed again!!

Thanks Brookes!
mortonjag 2008-02-01 14:11:23 Not forecast to go below freezing overnight. We should be OK with the covers.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 14:13:14 The great thing is that he now has options up front. I'd put Khali on from the start to soften them up, and play it by ear after that.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 14:15:07
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Feb 1 2008, 01:44 PM) [snapback]394654[/snapback]
Why not go for it , It can all add to the atmosphere

I had 3 Beachballs at Firpark last year no-one said anything to me

That had f*ck all to do with the beachballs.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 14:16:58
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Feb 1 2008, 01:47 PM) [snapback]394655[/snapback]
Im sure when Dougie offered Jim the job he didnt say "OK Jim now I am going to give your team talks , sign your players , and not let you have any say on signings "

Thats why he didnt stay in his previous job

What was Shoogly's last paid employment?
mortonjag 2008-02-01 14:22:35
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 1 2008, 02:04 PM) [snapback]394663[/snapback]
... but even if that's true, doesn't it also therefore leave the door open to the possibility that a 'greater power' created the conditions that would allow life to then evolve independently.

Maybe we're just part of some weird experiment. smile.gif

...FFS of course we are, but I think Mr Rae is learning!
mortonjag 2008-02-01 14:28:50
QUOTE(Cowshed Chris @ Feb 1 2008, 02:01 PM) [snapback]394659[/snapback]
If I'm McInally, I'm telling my defenders to put Dobbie up in the air sharpish. It's times like this that a Scott Bannerman/Dean Keenan comes in handy...

Aye-every good side needs its clugger.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 14:33:15
QUOTE(GMC @ Feb 1 2008, 02:27 PM) [snapback]394680[/snapback]
Point being that if a balloon can affect a game so much, then so can a beachball. huh.gif

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I must learn to behave-sorry Mr Rae.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 14:37:51
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 1 2008, 02:29 PM) [snapback]394682[/snapback]
So says his apostate in chief.

I agree I renounced Shooglyism a long time ago DE, but the old codger f*cked off to some sweetie wives' convention for the last few days of the signing window remaining open.

For me that's a step in the right direction.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 14:41:27
QUOTE(Malt @ Feb 1 2008, 02:37 PM) [snapback]394687[/snapback]
Jim would have been a fool if he didn't research the position. He could have spoken to Millar and former players which he knew and gained some insight.

We can't say it is all Rae's fault, yet I do believe he does make some poor decisions but McInally has made some terrible signings and made some poor decisions which question his capabilities as a manager.

Are you saying that he DID research the position?
mortonjag 2008-02-01 15:14:11
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 1 2008, 02:59 PM) [snapback]394692[/snapback]
Yes, damn those book-learnins! mad.gif
I think that all depends on what your definition of "is" is.

Many aspects of reason aren't limited by the available information.

I'm not willing to get into a discussion about who is intellectually superior, fish somewhere else.

I wasn't fishing -wasn't even looking for a debate nacho-just putting my point. ohmy.gif

Which aspects of 'reason' do you feel are not confined to available fact?
mortonjag 2008-02-01 15:18:06
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Feb 1 2008, 02:53 PM) [snapback]394691[/snapback]
Care to explain ?

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mortonjag 2008-02-01 15:22:54
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 1 2008, 03:10 PM) [snapback]394702[/snapback]
Yes, but it's how it's meaningfully used that counts. I'm not disputing that it's not a concept that exists and has a meaningful use. I'm debating whether or not it is used to denote things that are sensible, if not common.

I just see it quite simply as an identical or very similar sensory perception by the majority.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 15:26:53
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 1 2008, 03:18 PM) [snapback]394709[/snapback]
tongue.gif It's OK, I've left a box propped up by a stick with a Snickers under it... I'll find out tonight if that pink elephant's real.
Maths? Although I suppose if you want to be absolutely anal about it you need to know what two is before you can add 2+2 tongue.gif

'Fraid you've confused me-and I'm useless at maths-I really don't understand what you mean. sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-01 15:30:32
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 1 2008, 03:26 PM) [snapback]394718[/snapback]
It can be sensory in a very loose sense, though. It was once common sense that the sun orbited the earth, which may have appeared true, but *serious* empirical investigation showed that the opposite was the case.

In that sense, it's a social construct and not always a reliable one.

That's not to say that if 100 people came up to me and told me that I smelled bad - hypothetically, of course! - I wouldn't go for a quick shower.

It was NEVER common sense that the sun orbited the earth-surely they thought it stopped at one side and reappeared at the other twelve hours later! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-01 15:31:18
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 1 2008, 03:17 PM) [snapback]394707[/snapback]
Keep the covers on Crawford.

What's the son done wrong?
mortonjag 2008-02-01 15:33:01 The BBC Weather centre still has the minimum overnight temperature in Greenock at +4.

The game will be on.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 15:38:17
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 1 2008, 03:31 PM) [snapback]394722[/snapback]
laugh.gif Yeah, true, and some dude was pulling it on a wee chariot.

That would be the Greek sun god I imagine-Asbestos.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 15:39:57
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Feb 1 2008, 03:21 PM) [snapback]394715[/snapback]
I really feel that Monday night was the start of something, McAlister and Spoons were fantastic and big Greacen and Harding were immense at the back! Beating Queens would also make up for our last home game two weeks back in the league against them. We can do it, and convincingly!

One of the top Premier clubs at home in the quarters would be fantastic. Really feel that these new signings are going to see us moving up to the mid-table finish many of us wanted at the start of the season too!

Tuesday morning?
mortonjag 2008-02-01 15:41:52
QUOTE(centralTON @ Feb 1 2008, 03:21 PM) [snapback]394713[/snapback]
That sounds like a Morrisey lyric. wink.gif

When she is gone I'm feelin' blue
The lady in the Ton tutu...


next... laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-01 15:44:35
QUOTE(cmdc @ Feb 1 2008, 03:03 PM) [snapback]394696[/snapback]
He definately spoke to Cowboy before taking the job, who gave him a glowing report on the club and chairman!

That was ultimately more effective than fillin' him full of lead!
mortonjag 2008-02-01 15:46:50
QUOTE(Kekkoman @ Feb 1 2008, 03:11 PM) [snapback]394703[/snapback]
At least he realised they were not going to be good enough. Would you have preferred that he kept them? He robably got rid of them to free up wages for the likes of Mcguffie and Jenkins. Lets see how the rest of the season pans out then see what your opinion is.

If at the end of the season we are still in a poor position i will hold my hands up and admit i was wrong. I dont think you will ever give JM the chance and even when he proves you wrong you wont be big enough to admit it.

Morton will go on from now and turn our season around. a couple of wins and we're right back up the table. Clyde have def been weakened and we have been vastly strengthened. Think about what your sayin before you dig yourself into a hole.

I ask again will yoo come out and say your were wrong if JM turns it round?

What JM has done to date is on record. If he 'turns it round' he will surely get full credit. I believe he's had much more personal input in the last wee while, and time will tell.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 15:49:53
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 1 2008, 03:47 PM) [snapback]394731[/snapback]
2+2 will always be 4 regardless of any sensory input. It's something that a brain in a jar could come up with.

Aye but will two big boys and two wee boys be four medium sized ones-see I told you I just don't get maths!
mortonjag 2008-02-01 15:57:16 I once met Noel Edmonds at the old Ingliston race course-he used to race saloon cars-and he came over as a very 'off beat' chap, but quite pleasant.

I don't know if Jeremy Beadle ever raced saloon cars.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 16:03:08
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 1 2008, 03:59 PM) [snapback]394739[/snapback]
All boys, regardless of their size, deserve a chance at this level.

..but not at basketball.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 16:04:23
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Feb 1 2008, 04:02 PM) [snapback]394740[/snapback]
It was nice to pump Gretna, but they're gonnae bloody beat us again dry.gif

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You are breaking today's rules.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 16:10:29
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Feb 1 2008, 04:06 PM) [snapback]394747[/snapback]
Is that punishable by a fine, or shall I be booted oot the thread?

Neither!

Just be happy-tomorow is our day-the feel good factor's back-the Shed will be in fine form.

This the Monkey has decreed, so let's enjoy it while we can!
mortonjag 2008-02-01 16:23:29
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Feb 1 2008, 04:17 PM) [snapback]394751[/snapback]
I can see the mood being deflated very early on - and more noticable silence from the 'noisy ones'.
How do I know this, you ask?

I'm going tomorrow, and we always get stuffed when I go. I haven't seen us win since Partick or Buckie (whichever was the more recent). I was unlucky enough to miss the Gretna game at Palmerston after enduring more pish at Dunfermline, and lo and behold, we give them a nice big shafting smile.gif

So, I predict that my presence will influence the game tomorrow and, ultimately, this much anticipated fixture will fall flat on its face. Much to the delight of QoS.

What goes round comes round my boy-ask any ice cream man. Tomorrow is your lucky day.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 16:29:08
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Feb 1 2008, 04:24 PM) [snapback]394757[/snapback]
Good idea!

Although I have the wee fud on ignore, people still quote his posts so I have no option but to read his inane self absorbed drivel and his condescending, playground style insults and name calling.

The little creep of man is a walking inferiority complex and with 40 posts a day he single-handedly ruins this message board for me.
So, if you could somehow allow the ignored users to remain” ignored” even when in the quote box that would great thanks.

Any further request your Majesty? wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-01 17:27:12
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 1 2008, 04:36 PM) [snapback]394760[/snapback]
So do any of our homosexual fans find him attractive ?

I'd imagine so-he's quite a hunk, wouldn't you say!
mortonjag 2008-02-01 17:35:23 I wasn't hugely unhappy with the squad before the window opened-only with the fact that they were consistently underperforming on the pitch, and I believe the new signings (particularly Jenkins and Smith) will have a beneficial effect. I'm talking in terms of remaining comfortably in Division 1. SPL challenge-that's different.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 17:41:11
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 1 2008, 05:36 PM) [snapback]394813[/snapback]
Don't you think that if you're going to have an opinion on something it's better to have an informed one?

Of course-where's the contradiction-I didn't say folk shouldn't read books, and then form their OWN 'informed' opinions.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 17:52:49
QUOTE(Kaney @ Feb 1 2008, 05:42 PM) [snapback]394816[/snapback]
Why are you using this forum? Are you a Morton supporter?

?

All you seem to do is bitch and moan about everything you possibly can.
I mean seriously...

The Morton website is updated with latest signings, and all you can think to do is to start a new topic, and have a moan about how it wasnt a big enough of a welcome...?
You're f*cking shocking mate. You need to get a grip.

'Out of the mouths of babes and sucklings' eh!


Do you know the expression 'tongue in cheek' son?

Have you read the posts I've made today?

Seems to me that guys who haven't an original idea in their heads can always jump on the 'bash the Jag' wagon.

Anyway, it's rewarding to know I'm providing some relief therapy for the angst stricken.
mortonjag 2008-02-01 17:57:29
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 1 2008, 05:48 PM) [snapback]394818[/snapback]
I concur.

My own personal view is that it's not entirely implausible that some kind of higher intelligence may have created 'life' or the conditions for life to evolve by itself. I think it's highly unlikely though.

But even if that is the case then I don't think it's the 'God' in the way He's portrayed by all major religions. For example, I believe Heaven and Hell were made up by well intentioned humans who just wanted us to be nice to each other.

Having said all that, I'm fairly sure I'll be begging for forgiveness on my deathbed... just in case, like. smile.gif

No deathbeds for those whom God knocks down in the big red bus!
mortonjag 2008-02-01 18:14:22
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 1 2008, 06:11 PM) [snapback]394827[/snapback]
the thinking that you are a tosser cuts across all divides, matey. original thinkers, sheep, goths, metalheads, old farts, terrace dandies, ravers, english eccentrics, neds, wise old men, working class heroes, f***tards, daft wee girls, s***kickers, dweebs, jews, australian aboriginals, astronauts, athenian philosophers. just a few examples of people who think you're a dick, or no doubt would if they had the misfortune to listen to your tedious drivel dripping with self-regard.

if you got any further up your own arse you'd be a mathematical puzzle.

Well thank you kind Sir!



Feel better now? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-01 18:18:22
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 1 2008, 06:15 PM) [snapback]394829[/snapback]
That was quite a trick with the red sea though, better than Paul Daniels.......but not a lot.

C
mortonjag 2008-02-02 07:35:08
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 1 2008, 10:19 PM) [snapback]394988[/snapback]
back on to the common sense thread then, amongst the flurry of tail feathers, would some one like to define what is meant by common sense, just so we're talking about the same thing?

you know what i mean - instinct vs social construct vs urban myth?

oh, and isn't that wakey chap cute?

Apparently not Trumpet! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-02 07:38:38
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 1 2008, 06:49 PM) [snapback]394861[/snapback]
speak for yourself tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-02-02 07:46:36
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 1 2008, 10:28 PM) [snapback]394997[/snapback]
That's a quality put down.

Also, MortonJag, it's an internet forum. No-one gives a flying fanny fart about grammar, punctuation and spelling on here. Yer English degree means heehaw.

Most degrees mean 'hee haw', as you put it, oh learned one. People with degrees occasionally find them advantageous though-in the job market for example.

I'd like to humbly make the observation that several educated gentlemen (I'd not dream of including myself), have highlighted Mr Rae's penchant for torturing his native tongue and readers in one fell swoop.
mortonjag 2008-02-02 07:51:54
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Feb 1 2008, 07:28 PM) [snapback]394889[/snapback]
Peeling the tatties for lunch ? tongue.gif

Shouldn't that be 'Peelin' the totties for dinner'? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-02 07:55:25 About 3 cms of snow lying here. Traffic's flowing fine and pedestrians are walking about in normal footwear. Not exactly a blizzard. How's the 'Tail o' the bank?
mortonjag 2008-02-02 07:58:21
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 1 2008, 08:55 PM) [snapback]394933[/snapback]
but i always thought you were a dolt

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You'll surely tire of repeating that sooner or later Trumpet!
mortonjag 2008-02-02 08:03:06
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 1 2008, 09:52 PM) [snapback]394968[/snapback]
She's a girl.

Edit to add: CivictypeR that is, not Arthur Boric.

...and Artur's a big pole. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-02 08:04:39
QUOTE(CivicTypeR @ Feb 1 2008, 09:54 PM) [snapback]394971[/snapback]
love the way u corrected yourself there!! maybe i should put a post up in the general section to let ppl know im a girl LOL! stop any further confusion blink.gif

Just update your personal profile!!

BTW-Civic type R-dream or reality? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-02 08:06:32
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Feb 1 2008, 11:54 PM) [snapback]395055[/snapback]
The penalty that never was against gretna has cost us dear!

Euphemism for Pishley b*****d f***s us yet again!
mortonjag 2008-02-02 08:13:01
QUOTE(McMenamie @ Feb 2 2008, 04:58 AM) [snapback]395150[/snapback]
My opinion on Morton just now.

1. In the cup the team fight for every ball ,we as fans get behind the team.

2.In the cup we have nuthing to loose so the team express their football.

3.In the cup there is no bad posts on here and we think last 8 is possible.

4.God support in the cup.

Thats the good.

1. In the league we get on players and managers case.

2..In the league the team dont want the ball and seem affraid to make mistakes as we as fans are all frustrated and on their backs.

3.In the league just now we dont look like we can survive the 1st div.

4.Poor support in the league

My point is if we get behind the team just now in all games not just the cup we can survive this div.
We can pay and have the right to an opinion but try keeping it till end of season or our team might go down.

We should all be having a word with God!
mortonjag 2008-02-02 08:14:31
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Feb 1 2008, 10:06 PM) [snapback]394983[/snapback]
Russell isn't suspended, but I still don't think he'll start. Don't think McGregor will start either TBH.

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mortonjag 2008-02-02 08:21:15
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Feb 1 2008, 10:04 PM) [snapback]394979[/snapback]
Eh?? He's gash! I don't think we'll be seeing much more of Kieran, or Jamie for that matter.

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mortonjag 2008-02-02 08:22:37
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 2 2008, 03:48 AM) [snapback]395145[/snapback]
Red sea, I see. Let's see how you do a burning bush.

Fireball the White House.
mortonjag 2008-02-02 08:27:27
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 1 2008, 06:22 PM) [snapback]394834[/snapback]
degree in English eh?

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mortonjag 2008-02-02 08:31:01
QUOTE(leyTON @ Feb 1 2008, 11:56 PM) [snapback]395059[/snapback]
did i not outline before my reasons for saying this?
calling me a c*** wow thats you got the argument wrapped up there
your right im a real glass half empty idior amnt i?
3rd bottom with clyde closing in and an inept manager - what am i thinking?

I think you're correct about JM, but what he's been unable to do may now come in the form of motivation on the pitch from his new signings.
mortonjag 2008-02-02 08:36:42
QUOTE(CivicTypeR @ Feb 1 2008, 10:04 PM) [snapback]394978[/snapback]
awwwwwwwwwww wee hurt feeling in ther?

hope this games on tomorrow - its freezing out tae

....and we can't even say 'Well pit it back in ya daftie'!
mortonjag 2008-02-02 08:41:15
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 1 2008, 07:17 PM) [snapback]394880[/snapback]
Phew, that's all right then.

Buses here are yellow. unsure.gif

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Then you may have a wee chance of spotting that big red one in time!
mortonjag 2008-02-02 08:48:07
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 1 2008, 10:19 PM) [snapback]394989[/snapback]
Jesus Christ mate who shat on your cornflakes? Debate finished? How can a debate ever be finished when reason is up against blind faith? Where did I say god didn't exist? And, for my money, yes everyone who isn't an evolutionist is wrong. But if you think otherwise then you sit happy in yer wee world. Please, also, point out the statistic I made up.
Do me a favour. Stop talking absolute pish and bringing up nonsense like this which has hee-haw to do with the thread at hand in order to make yourself look all intelligent.
How far do you wanna take it? To the first mammals, reptiles, amphibians, fish, worms, bacteria? The theorised line of evolution is pretty easy to find.

Any half educated tw*t can regurgitate stuff he's read, and you have the impertinence to accuse TiD of 'trying to make himself look intelligent'.

For what it's worth son, I guess I was much the same as you before I discovered the refreshing vistas which open for those who take nothing at face value, and always think for themselves.
mortonjag 2008-02-02 08:59:15
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 1 2008, 11:10 PM) [snapback]395017[/snapback]
sometimes the ceaseless chatter of people gets me down but i am aware that social chatter spreads knowledge and partly explains our success as a species.

to tid and others who have given their faith a thought i would say that i was lost a while ago and found science. i know that my finding science could easily be compared with someone else finding religion, although i am aware of the difference in thought processes. the reason i could never accept religion, despite trying very hard for a long time, was that my sense of reason refused to accept it. after some study i now have some idea of the scale of the universe and it has given me an intense sense of awe that the stories i have read in religious texts could never come close to engendering. when i look up i see things that i know my mind cannot fully grasp, but at the same time i am content that i am an integral part of this infinite beauty and complexity, and when my mind ends my constituent parts will continue until the end of time. maybe if i am lucky it will turn out that my mind will live on in some form and i will continue to learn more. i doubt this, but i don't feel diminished by my doubt.

i respect anyone who makes an effort to understand, even if i personally believe their beliefs to be misguided. i think that the effort to understand in itself improves the individual and makes them worth sharing a beer with.

phew. that's the serious post over with for another year

I'd prefer that beer bacteriologically checked first.
mortonjag 2008-02-02 09:03:23
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 1 2008, 11:35 PM) [snapback]395037[/snapback]
not yet. i only mentioned the nappies because i bought them early. the foetus is due to become a person in may.

hard to concentrate when the neighbours are having a good ole-fashioned mano a mujer wrestling match. what are we talking about?

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif cue 45 page thread!!!
mortonjag 2008-02-02 09:17:47
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 2 2008, 08:59 AM) [snapback]395195[/snapback]
It means heehaw on here. A misspelled word or bad piece of punctuation will not diminish someone's post in any way. It merely gives you more fodder to annoy us.



For those who are educated, posts are most certainly diminished by poor construction-that is not to say that the poster is diminished.

Who, by the way, are 'yous'?
mortonjag 2008-02-02 09:20:50
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Feb 2 2008, 09:13 AM) [snapback]395202[/snapback]
i think people are concentrating too much on whether the game might be on or off due to the state of the pitch. Although its called a pitch inspection there are several other factors taken into account, the safety of fans travelling to and from the game is also a major factor in the descision. personally i think the state of the roads between greenock and dumfries for the qos fans travelling home will be the deciding factor.

Are you serious?

We have the home advantage, and if the pitch is playable it should be game on.
mortonjag 2008-02-02 09:21:55
QUOTE(Mr.Kennedy @ Feb 2 2008, 09:21 AM) [snapback]395212[/snapback]
Will that only be a factor once they arrive in Greenock? rolleyes.gif

Please squash that beast!
mortonjag 2008-02-02 09:25:36
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 2 2008, 09:21 AM) [snapback]395213[/snapback]
The people who get annoyed by your pedantry and constant ability to switch anything that happens, anywhere, into a dig at Dougie Rae.

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The Shooglyphiles!
mortonjag 2008-02-02 09:32:45
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 2 2008, 09:18 AM) [snapback]395206[/snapback]
Crocodiles are thin on the ground in Greenock mate. If I see one I'll be sure to ask.

Although if I remember correctly The Bible's the only place I've read about talking serpents. Generally because they don't exist and that things just chock-full of fairy stories.

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The Bible may be interpreted to ones taste-many folk worldwide seem to derive strength and courage from its contents-even if it's also full of 'fairy stories' as you describe them.

Now back to your crocs and snakes in Greenock-why do you claim they are 'thin on the ground' just because YOU haven't seen many?

Plenty of reptiles around Sinclair St. over the years.
mortonjag 2008-02-02 09:35:10
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Feb 2 2008, 09:32 AM) [snapback]395220[/snapback]
with the covers been on dont you think using an orange ball is a bit ott

Maybe a green and white one would suffice.
mortonjag 2008-02-02 09:38:19
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 2 2008, 09:28 AM) [snapback]395218[/snapback]
Add in the fact that anyone who disagrees with any point you make instantly has their tongue right up Dougie Rae's arsehole according to you. We all know the guy makes mistakes but, despite having all the answers, you are not blessed with foresight into the future. Dougie might be making mistakes but you cannot claim that whoever comes in will not make the same ones or worse.

And constantly calling him Shoogly is particularly annoying.

I know-that's why I do it!


BTW the wee highlighted bit is an example of something which annoys me.


mortonjag 2008-02-02 09:39:46
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Feb 2 2008, 09:38 AM) [snapback]395224[/snapback]
OFF.....red card for that one....
Oh aye...never eat yellow snow!!!!

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mortonjag 2008-02-02 09:45:36 The signing of Allan Jenkins yesterday was the last of four new faces to join the Club during the window, the others being Ryan McGuffie, Barry Smith and Brian Wake.

Manager Jim McInally said "We are delighted that we have finally got Allan joining us. It has been common knowledge that we have been looking to strengthen up the middle of the park and Allan and Ryan (McGuffie) will be a big presence for us there. With Barry Smith at the back and Brian Wake up front, it gives us a decent squad."

Chris Millar will be staying at Cappielow until the end of the season. McInally explained "I had spoken to the players' agent last week and he told me that St Johnstone would not be paying the fee we had asked for. With this in mind, I had to make our signing plans with Chris in the squad. On Wednesday afternoon, St Johnstone made the offer we had asked for, but after speaking to Martin Clark, we agreed that we were not in a position to replace him before the window closed - it was too short notice. We have spoken to Chris, and he has pledged to continue to give 100% while he is still a Morton player."

The window has seen some departures from the Club as well - Michael Gardyne (to Ross County), Chris Templeman and Bobby Linn (East Fife) and Jay Shields (Cowdenbeath). Dean Keenan and Alan Gilbride are on loan to Ayr United and Stenhousemuir respectively until the end of the season.


Full credit for an informative and up to date report.
mortonjag 2008-02-02 09:48:39
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Feb 2 2008, 09:47 AM) [snapback]395234[/snapback]
well done MJ, you can use copy and paste tongue.gif

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I'm good at hanging wallpaper too.
mortonjag 2008-02-02 09:51:49
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Feb 2 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]395240[/snapback]
i had a pal called wallpaper....

always hanging about and stripping when drunk....ie wallpaper

Was he not Sledge's mate-yon guy who was always getting pulled by dogs?
mortonjag 2008-02-02 10:02:45
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Feb 2 2008, 09:59 AM) [snapback]395258[/snapback]
about 20 mins......they check weather condition predictions and also road conditions for fans...then the pitch!!

I don't get it-do they check road conditions for fans travelling from, say, Aberdeen to Glasgow for an OF tie when the pitches are clearly not in danger but it's snowy up north? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-02 10:04:25
QUOTE(tondaft @ Feb 2 2008, 09:59 AM) [snapback]395256[/snapback]
thankyou, someone who agrees. dont agree about stevenson though

Why?
mortonjag 2008-02-02 10:05:37
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Feb 2 2008, 10:04 AM) [snapback]395262[/snapback]
it depends...local road conditions are a major factor as well......

also the terrecing underfoot is checked as well in case it is dangerously icy

The snow's all but gone up here and trafffic's flowing freely.
mortonjag 2008-02-02 10:14:59
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Feb 2 2008, 10:12 AM) [snapback]395278[/snapback]
Just noticed this on the board...

there is a lot to be said for numbers!!!!!
mortonjag 666 Today, 09:38 AM
Last post by: mortonjag

666 predicts ---game on!
mortonjag 2008-02-02 10:19:30
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 2 2008, 10:18 AM) [snapback]395285[/snapback]
Live from Cappielow Park....
Ref says pitch is playable BUT he is woried abut away fans travelling to the game

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mortonjag 2008-02-02 10:21:40
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Feb 2 2008, 10:19 AM) [snapback]395292[/snapback]
Its our home game. people setting out from Dumfries know what the weather is like!

Home advantage-used to be called luck of the draw-if this is called off to accommodate Queens I'll be f*cking fuming after driving to Palmerston in torrential rain on Monday when the game should have been at Motherwell.
mortonjag 2008-02-02 10:25:58
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Feb 2 2008, 10:24 AM) [snapback]395299[/snapback]
The game is ON

Care to expand?
mortonjag 2008-02-02 10:27:36
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Feb 2 2008, 10:26 AM) [snapback]395304[/snapback]
Whats to expand? QoS site says pitch inspection ok 3pm Kick off

FFS how do they know first?
mortonjag 2008-02-02 10:29:49
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Feb 2 2008, 10:27 AM) [snapback]395305[/snapback]
Game is defo on!!!!!

ref arrived at cappielow with the intention of calling the game off.
Arrived with no gear and now has to drive 45 mins back home to get his stuff.
park is like a bowling green.

A big well done to mark farrell for his efforts and also a big thanks to all the guys who went down to take the covers off the park at short notice

I THANK YOU!!!

'I did my best Gordon, but you'll have to try different ploys to get your summer football up and running'. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-02 10:48:47 So what's the score with the Ref? It's Charlie Richmond, I believe. Where does he live, and WHY did he arrive unprepared and expecting to call the game off. Every time there's been a cry for summer football, the SFA have said 'f*ck off'.

Now when Mark Farell and his team have worked wonders to have a pitch in good playable condition at the very worst time of the year, he comes EXPECTING to call the game off. mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-02 11:00:25
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 2 2008, 10:34 AM) [snapback]395318[/snapback]
Why the f*** are you so obsessed with the crocodiles?

I put my faith in reason and evidence. Of which there is, to put it in Layman's terms, lots.

You seem to have no idea of the evidence for all of this. Now seeing as you told me to school up on my bible why don't you do the same on your science. Whereas you appear to only have one reference for your delusions, the King James Bible, I've used my short life to read up on a number of scientific texts. Seeing you seem to want the answers for the creation of the universe, the creation of life and evolution, amongst others, A Short History Of Nearly Everything (ISBN: 0-7679-0817-1) covers all that in easy to understand language. However when I tried to explain a tiny part of the evolutionary theory in a short handed way rather than go into depth on gene mutations and fossil records you jumped down my throat I'd assume you'll explode with rage at Bryson's clever little similes and metaphors.

As for the big bang and how something can come from "nothing" then the most obvious place to start would be Hawkin's (ISBN-10: 0553804367) A Briefer History of Time.

For evolution you can pretty much ignore Darwin's Origin of Species as the whole theory has been improved on and added to many times since then. The Blind Watchmaker (ISBN 0-393-31570-3), although slightly dated, is still my favourite book on the theory and the documentary, also by Dawkins, is available on Google Video.

So I aint gonna sit here and explain these three enormous scientific theories for your benefit so you can sit there in the hope my summing up will have glaring omissions or schoolboy errors just so you can pick up on them and then make another comment about me wanking into a sock. If it really interests you then you can post back in a week or so when you've read those texts. If it doesn't then I await another hilarious aside about some friction between my hand and c***.

That's all they are son-THEORIES-but your puerile mind has gobbled them up as though they were proven fact.


1st corinthians 13:12

King James Bible
For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. wink.gif



mortonjag 2008-02-02 11:02:21
QUOTE(ayrstorm @ Feb 2 2008, 10:55 AM) [snapback]395330[/snapback]
he'll be working the system
a payment plus petrol money to do the inspection
home for 1hr in front of the telly
then more petrol money and a match fee for doing the game wink.gif
so two sets of petrol money for him today

That sounds entirely plausible.
mortonjag 2008-02-02 11:03:34
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 2 2008, 10:59 AM) [snapback]395332[/snapback]
If he's came over wanting to call it off for a day off he's a p***k

If he's just trying to get a few extra bob petrol money.... well done. Petrol is expensive smile.gif

Aye-and it's the fans who ultimately pay for it! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-02 11:05:03
QUOTE(Mr.Kennedy @ Feb 2 2008, 10:48 AM) [snapback]395328[/snapback]
If the team can make it to the game unscathed, I don't see why the fans can't. Shouldn't be any concern about that.

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I can't f*ckin' win Kennedy-now the Monkey's girning about 'wanting that wee beast back'!
mortonjag 2008-02-02 11:07:59
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 2 2008, 11:01 AM) [snapback]395334[/snapback]
Gravity is just a theory as well MJ. But, like gravity, evolution has been proven beyond all reasonable doubt.

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Sorry!
mortonjag 2008-02-02 11:12:36 Chinook!


Now raining lightly in the big smoke and snow's gone.
mortonjag 2008-02-02 11:16:34
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 2 2008, 11:11 AM) [snapback]395342[/snapback]
You know. Newton's theory of gravity. Gravitational theory.

Although gravitational theory is different from "gravity" it is still a theory.

I could swear you said 'Gravity is a theory'.

Perhaps you can now see how proper use of your native tongue can avoid confusion.

Why does the fact that Newton's theory has been proven make the proof of those evolutionary theories you mention any more likely?
mortonjag 2008-02-02 11:19:32
QUOTE(piehutt @ Feb 2 2008, 11:13 AM) [snapback]395344[/snapback]
What's with the '10 QoS fans' nonsence.

Qos will have more than 500 fans there, and closer to 1000!

Correct-the Doonhamers have a robust support at the moment-seems Gretna haven't done them any favours either!

I was in the home stand on Monday, and there were more curious Queens fans there than Bumpkins.
mortonjag 2008-02-02 11:22:00
QUOTE(kilbrideton @ Feb 2 2008, 11:17 AM) [snapback]395348[/snapback]
Heavy snow in Largs but not lying. Amazed this game is on! Well done Morton! Wifes just asked me not to come home drunk!

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Asked!!!!!
mortonjag 2008-02-02 11:29:49
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Feb 2 2008, 11:24 AM) [snapback]395356[/snapback]
on bible quotations: -

"The Queen of the South shall rise up in judgement of the men of this generation, and condemn them" Luke 13:11

Just hope it's not today that she rises...

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Aye but she was well shafted by Solomon McInally!
mortonjag 2008-02-03 08:54:38
QUOTE(stubaws @ Feb 2 2008, 12:37 PM) [snapback]395431[/snapback]
whats that? hitting s***ty set pieces and letting his head go down at the slightest thing?!?! talented player but unbelievably fragile confidence!

i think that mcanespie always looked better in the middle of the park, he was the only midfielder who demanded the ball from the defenders and always looked for a pass rather than a hopeful punt. in saying that he was pish in his last few games before getting dropped. still think he's a player who could be good for us though

NOT at Alloa-quite the opposite, so explain why this has happened.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 09:15:55
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 2 2008, 05:51 PM) [snapback]395542[/snapback]
It's very unusual for me to suggest that a player isn't trying, but if that's Ryan McGuffie at full pelt I'd hate to see him when he isn't. He is a hider and a chancer, based on what I've seen so far, and if this is his attitude when playing for a relegation-threatened side he should get to f**k because it's not enough.

He's emblematic of the midfield as a whole, though - none of them look for the ball. (Many say that McLaughlin does, which may be true, but he's not good enough to do anything with it.

Wake had a hard time off that baldy defender who the referee let away with a lot - other than that the ref had a decent game, I thought - and he might do well against smaller CBs. I still don't see how he was a suitable signing, though - another panic acquisition from the people who brought us Gardyne and Coakley. One thing I will say in Wake's defence is that he did come and look for the ball quite a bit, hold it up and bring one of our (hitherto hiding) midfielders into play, but by the time he'd re-arrived in a striking position someone would have already hoofed a cross to the vacant far post.

Queens aren't a great side but they're better than us and deserved their win. While they're prone to errors almost to the same extent as we are, they seem much more able to recover, and to capitalise on those of the oppositions. That Morton are unable to do so is so deeply frustrating.

And piehutt McGurn was in no way to blame for the second goal, he was put in a near-impossible position by the clear and apparent failure of Greacen to send in the tackle. Greacen is bereft of confidence and won't stick the boot in, and it takes around 30 minutes before the opposition notice it. McInally should cotton on by 2014 or so.

GG: I think Smith was carrying a knock ,at least that's what it looked like as he jogged off.

Agree about Stevenson. Generally I think it's the case that what happens in the dressing room should stay in the dressing room but I think the fans are owed an explanation about the sketch with him. One of the few players in the side who can run at a packed defence remains on the bench when we're chasing a game when there are several ideal candidates to come off - it's jaw-dropping stuff. What is Jamie's deal? Why is he not involved more? And before anyone says "he was off form" - so's half the bloody team! Is there something else going on?

He was carrying a knock from Monday-if we had any strength in the squad defensive wise Barry would have been rested for this one. Instead we binned Sanny and signed somebody the Hamilton fans were happy to see go.

The signing window now looks like this


Smith-only on loan

McGuffie-hasn't kicked a ball except on Monday against his old buddies

'Super' Khali---even though the sight of him is something quite atrocious.

Jenkins, who if the past is anything to go on, will rapidly develop the footballing form of ME endemic at Cappielow.,

Who is the carrier of this rare and puzzling condition whose symptoms include confusion, lethargy, lack of animation, paranoia, and a striking lack of ability to make decisions?
mortonjag 2008-02-03 09:20:17 Gentlemen-stop being naughty-you will upset the Shooglyphiles.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 09:28:32
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 2 2008, 10:05 PM) [snapback]395804[/snapback]
I'll take charge of the team for next Saturday. I couldn't do any worse. In fact I'll play in place of Harding - I know when to hoof and when to pass and I don't give away unnecessary corners.

i've always been in favour of giving Jim NcInally time to get things sorted but it is apparent he hasn't a clue how to set out a team and what tactics to adopt. hoof it up the park doesn't work, but we always end up resorting to that, even when we have played a successful passing game for part of a match.

Clueless doesn't begin to describe him. FFS, why can't we get someone like Chisholm who has done a terrific job at Queens - although he was roundly hated by many Queens fans for the first half of this season and criticised for the same things as McInally.

Sorry Jim but I have lost patience. You just haven't got it.

Even if JM DID have it-was Sir Alex bloody Ferguson for that matter, he should be judged on his current ability to get the team performing. Those boys played OK on Monday, even if Gretna are no great shakes, yet EVERY SINGLE TIME the pressures on our lot-Play offs and away game to Raith when we won the title are only two examples-they collapse like a pile of cards.

That is ultimately down to the manager.

Yesterday was our last chance this season to claw back some credibility, and more importantly make some money.

Surely Rae must now also see it's TTG.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 09:29:54
QUOTE(Jack Bauer @ Feb 2 2008, 10:32 PM) [snapback]395833[/snapback]
Prob the most talented player we have..

Mis-used and then ruined by the master tactician.

Another in a very long line to have the world at his feet and see it turn to a big ball of s*** the once we sign them.

JB.

That's the truth.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 09:36:16 JM's on borrowed time only because Rae is so f***in' full of himself he can't yet admit the mistake. Either that or he's too skint to pay him off. Either way the writing's on the wall now. No money from the Scottish Cup-that must be the last straw-SURELY?
mortonjag 2008-02-03 09:38:12
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Feb 2 2008, 07:10 PM) [snapback]395655[/snapback]
Queens were the better team today. Their defence never really looked troubled and they caused problems for us regularly. They are, on current form, the best team in the league so maybe we should not read too much into losing to them.

We now need to concentrate on a minimum of 8th place and Clyde losing to Stirling helped a fair bit. We must win next week against Clyde and if we do maybe we can relax a bit and try and play some football. We will have Jenkins but if he is to be effective we have to learn to play the ball through midfield and not over the top of them.

We should be able to take points from Stirling and Clyde plus a few other teams n this league and thats what we have to do.

Lose next week and McInally has to go

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You've been a patient man!

Is that a promise?
mortonjag 2008-02-03 09:40:22
QUOTE(BluebirdTon @ Feb 2 2008, 07:22 PM) [snapback]395667[/snapback]
They were willing to fight for their place in the draw,we weren't.

Jim won't go until the summer,when its too late.Rae obviously hasn't acknowledged how long it took us to get back here and how frustrating it was.I presume he isn't bothered about relegation,the w*nker.



That's a very interesting question-and of course God never tells the scum fans what his plans really are.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 09:52:26 It wasn't Wake's performance which was that poor-I believe the boy probably showed us what he's capable of, so he shouldn't be faulted-may become a good squad player, but WTF was he the choice when we've been REDUCING the squad.

Truth is, as others have said, he was a last minute panic buy.


JM is quoted as saying he's 'wanted him for a while'.

Aye right.

I'll never forget his radio interview after we signed Gardyne, when he claimed he rated the boy highly, and had been raving about him to the Chairman who was 'delighted with the signing'. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-03 10:08:07
QUOTE(The Shuffler @ Feb 2 2008, 06:42 PM) [snapback]395614[/snapback]
In all my days of going to Cappielow im struggling to recall "a back four" ( & i use that term loosely), as bad as we have just now. No natural full backs, two centre halves who, in all honesty really are being found out in games, these two just aren't good enough. Devoid of leadership, organisation, & positional awareness, no consistency in their weekly performances, yet still they keep their places, granted Greacen was dropped for Smith for a whole two games but when he goes back to his employers in a few weeks we're back to square one.

The fact that McInally thinks the defence is "good enough" baffles me, the very fact that we didnt pursue any defenders during the window really concerns me, we are losing on average two goals a game, relegation material if this trend continues.

That was CRIMINAL dereliction of duty-JM appears to have learned nothing from previous mistakes, and constantly has seemed willing to 'make do' with players out of position all over the park.

Let's get something else straight once and for all-we DON'T use the wings. Neither McAlister nor Finlayson ever was, or ever will be a winger in the true sense of the word-good wingers put crosses over with the skill of an ace snooker player potting the black-but those two-it's a total hit or miss affair. On one occasion yesterday Jimbo made a good run to the bye line-for once everybody WAS up for the ball, and as I waited in anticipation he sent it nowhere. At least he's right footed, but Kev has less excuse-he's improved lately, but his crossing's still a lottery.

Before the usual culprits rush to their defence just because MJ has criticised, I rate both players VERY highy, but they are typical examples of JM's crass stupidity in not signing men for WHERE they play, but because he likes how they play.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 10:12:09
QUOTE(stuart @ Feb 2 2008, 06:13 PM) [snapback]395582[/snapback]
He played pretty well down in Dumfries v Gretna.

Thought he had turned a corner there.

Me too Stuart, and NOBODY please say McGuffie is not a good footballer, because, just like Jamie Stevenson, he is-but just like Jamie he's come to Cappielow, and caught that strange affliction which nobody can quite explain.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 10:15:22
QUOTE(tigerh @ Feb 2 2008, 06:58 PM) [snapback]395631[/snapback]
The problem with this guy is that he's been used to playing for managers who had an idea what they wanted him to do. The guy is completely lost - the game is going on around him. He hasn't a clue about what his role is -the same as the rest. Believe me we could have Pele , Best, Maradona at their best and they would be ineffective. What forward can play when the ball is launched at them in the air for 50 or 60 yards. We have no tactics not wrong ones ! WE lose shape and have everybody running around like headless chickens. The problem is not with the players its from the touch line with the manager. He is clueless and clearly has lost it. (How we managed to beat Gretna remains a mystery) Today we were back to the usual dross. There is no direction -no passion - no tactics -its not about the players efforts , its about their direction. They are not going out to deliberately play badly. The fact is they are confused and lost. This is the first time I've said this....but it is definitely time to go Jim. Your probably a nice guy who's been a smashing player and a good coach to kids but your found wanting with the big boys. Sadly your judgement ,motivational skills and tactical ineptitude is there for all sensible people to see.

Thanks and goodbye.

When the players are 'up for it' and take the game by the scruff of the neck as underdogs we get something from them. As you say, that motivation does NOT come from off pitch.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 10:21:20
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 2 2008, 07:45 PM) [snapback]395691[/snapback]
Started Queueing about quarter to three got in through the turnstile att the kick off . It was pretty badly organised today , I thought they should have held the kick off for at least 10 minutes . Heard all the shouts to get more gates open . Not exactly the way to get people to comeback .

I can't believe folk had to queue--FFS we only had 3500-this club seems a shambles in EVERY department apart from the ground staff.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 10:23:11
QUOTE(tondaft @ Feb 2 2008, 08:14 PM) [snapback]395714[/snapback]
totally agree he is a waste of space. a few times today one of the centre mids were making a break through the middle and any normal winger would run up the line and give the option to play the ball through but he didnt

That's the whole point-he is NOT a winger.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 10:37:20
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 2 2008, 11:32 AM) [snapback]395361[/snapback]
I would say that evolutionary theory has been proven too. How can it not? Where are the holes in this theory?

Evolution is a fact-there are countless examples of 'natural selection' in biology for example. Evolution is part of what's happening-it does not explain 'how it all started' if indeed it had to 'start' at all.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 11:07:53 I'm posing a serious question-the Chairman IS a very successful businessman in his own small field, yet we're losing money hand over fist. Surely he must secretly have been praying for a victory yesterday, and an away tie with one of the OF-that would have gone quite a way to balancing the books for the season, and we MIGHT rolleyes.gif just have pulled off a miracle and gone even further-stranger things have happened.

It's the morning after the night before, and Greenock Morton F C are not in pretty shape-the fans are baying like hounds for the departure of the manager, having seen his 'lucky bag' selection of misfits and panic buys easily muscled out of the cup by a team of competent and effective journeymen.

Surely on this 'Lord's Day' Mr Rae must be praying more earnestly than on many a previous for a saving miracle!

Surely reality must finally have dawned for a man who undoubtedly went into this starry eyed and with good intention.

The possibility of impending fiscal disaster must SURELY have crossed his mind.

There again, it may be that he has indeed lost that precious commodity-his marbles.

I certainly hope not, and my message to the Chairman is quite simple. The club's credibility is at a peep, and your failed manager is being allowed to take the flak as your human shield. Can you not see the conundrum there?

Act now-do whatever is required to turn things around and the fans will slowly start making their way back, and PLEASE be honest with us-we ARE supposed to be in this together.

mortonjag 2008-02-03 11:21:00
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Feb 3 2008, 10:59 AM) [snapback]396023[/snapback]
Our best player by a f***ing mile and our ONLY attacking outlet in the second half.

Attitude was second to none.

I could single out several players yesterday but Kev certainly wasn't one of them.

Truth is that the stuff we've been playing for ages has been a tactical shambles. It seems that JM has an unsurpassed ability to ruin players confidence by using them like pieces on a chess board. I'd rarely have wanted Kev out of a starting eleven-IMHO if he was playing alongside a proper right winger he'd be twice as effective, but he's left to plough a lone furrow up the right-rarely gets support when he needs it, and virtually never sees anybody overlap when he tries to turn inside-the result is that he often ends up running out of options and wasting the final ball.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 11:23:23
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 3 2008, 11:18 AM) [snapback]396034[/snapback]
Just like every other chairman who had a club in the Scottish Cup this year outwith the SPL? Are they all losing their marbles too?

I haven't a clue, and don't give a f*ck.I'm a Morton supporter.

What are you BTW?
mortonjag 2008-02-03 11:38:49
QUOTE(neilly @ Feb 3 2008, 11:35 AM) [snapback]396052[/snapback]
well my dad was oin front of me in the queue...didnt give me the right to jump in front of everyone!!!

your apology is pathetic and im less annoyed about there being as many turnstiles being open as 1 arrogant person who thought they were better than easily 100 folk waiting to get in!!!!

Some folk might suggest that not being able to accept a GENUINE apology is immature.

The club ultimately caused the shambles.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 11:41:25
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 3 2008, 11:38 AM) [snapback]396056[/snapback]
f***ing amazing

Listen you puerile little apology for a gangrenous scrotum-I've started a serious thread-for once I'm NOT poking fun at the Chairman-you clearly haven't the wit to see that. Crawl back under the stone.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 11:43:19
QUOTE(neilly @ Feb 3 2008, 11:40 AM) [snapback]396058[/snapback]
no offence but im sure you would change your judgement had you been waiting in the rain and watch someone mock you as he swaggered in selfishly (prob having just come out the norseman aswell:P)

I'd have been f*ckin' ragin and probably set the Monkey on him, but he's apologised.

He didn't exactly murder DDFR! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-03 11:46:47
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 3 2008, 11:43 AM) [snapback]396061[/snapback]
Your thread title is "Has DDFR lost his marbles?"

Definately not poking fun at the chairman.. just questioning his sanity?

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Read the thread you clown. It's not a crime to ask serious questions about bizarre behaviour.

What's your opinion on the issue, or can you only regurgitate stuff you've read in big books? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-03 11:48:29
QUOTE(neilly @ Feb 3 2008, 11:45 AM) [snapback]396067[/snapback]
sorry can be a very easy and empty word!!!!

So you think he's not?
mortonjag 2008-02-03 11:59:04
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 3 2008, 11:49 AM) [snapback]396073[/snapback]
My opinion is Dougie Rae is giving McInally time to turn it round. Wrongly in my opinion but, as you're so keen to point out, we're all allowed one and unlike, you or I, it's Dougie Rae's money. The few bob we splash out on season books or paying in every week is miniscule compared to the money he's put in.

Precis-don't question the Chairman's authority! sad.gif

If I put all my money into a business I have to be accountable to various agencies, and risk being closed down if I don't conform.

Why do you imply that the Chairman has the right to do just as he pleases while saying you disagree with his behaviour?

He should be accountable to the fans. The highlighted comment is substantially inaccurate and demeaning of folk who yesterday shelled out their hard earned pennies after queuing needlessly at ancient turnstyles.

It's quite simple scrotum-no fans-no club-a kind of evolutionary process if you will.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 12:40:53
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 3 2008, 12:05 PM) [snapback]396084[/snapback]
When did I say we shouldn't question the chairman's decisions? If he feels McInally is the right man to take the club forward then that's his agenda. I think he's wrong, the majority on here think that as well, but he's quite within his rights to soldier on through.

I'll put it differently-if a man has such power, and if it is 'HIS AGENDA' to single handedly ruin the club he re-built, at what point, and how do the fans show they've had enough?
mortonjag 2008-02-03 12:45:13
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 3 2008, 11:31 AM) [snapback]396048[/snapback]
Yesterday I woulda slapped my own maw to have McAnespie or Stevenson on. Christ knows how many free kicks and corners were floated in by McLaughlin when someone with a decent delivery woulda really put Queens under pressure. Five big guys to aim at and every one hung up for Jim Thompson to deal with.

McAnespie was another 'fudge' during the previous transfer window. IMO he hasn't played a decent game for us. Agreed he can hit a good 'dead ball', but Scott's work rate (and he's far from my favourite player) puts him ahead by a country mile.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 12:48:03 It's back to the old story!

Harding is a good footballer. Yesterday he was poor. Greacen can be a huge asset, AND a huge liability. The two rarely play well together, though I though Barry Smith had got them better organised for a while.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 12:50:11
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 3 2008, 11:35 AM) [snapback]396053[/snapback]
We were playing fairly well yesterday. Not creating much but looking fairly solid apart from bad marking at the corner. Our only attacking outlet was down the wings. So what does McInally do? Change to a formation with no width. While Finlayson and McAllister were at least getting some joy down the flanks at times he moved Finlayson 30 yards back the way and McAllister into the middle. McGuffie was invisible yesterday and Millar, for all his huffing and puffing, couldn't get into the game at all. Only McLaughlin in the midfield looked like he could take the ball from the defence and play a pass along the ground... the answer?? throw him in at left back.

Russell came on and looked lively and brought Wake into life a bit as he had someone to aim his flick ons to. Although the right player came on the wrong player went off.

Brian Graham must be wondering what he did wrong. He had a great first half at Gretna, yet still didn't kick a ball yesterday in favour of Wake who may have contributed some 'dig' up front, but wasn't doing much else.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 12:52:07
QUOTE(Jack Bauer @ Feb 3 2008, 12:07 PM) [snapback]396086[/snapback]
Apparently Alan Jenkins is our top earner. He is a good player, lets hope he stays a good player! i also like the lad Skelton at Gretna, maybe we should have enquired about him?

JB.

It's a hell of a responsibility now being placed on Jenkins. Will he fulfil promise?

If so, that will be a first for any signing since JM took over.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 12:58:41
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Feb 3 2008, 12:19 PM) [snapback]396095[/snapback]
I stood over at the WDE of the shed yesterday and when Russell came on most of those around me cringed. The guys a joke. Plenty of running but achieves nothing, first touch is is rubbish, took a fresh air effort while comming in from the right flank. Like some of the others in this team he aint got what it takes.

In yesterdays conditions when we elected to play with the wind in the 2nd half we needed a big man up there to deal with the route 1 tactics JM was obviously planning. How we got rid of Templeman inlieu of a couple has been midfielders is above me. What strikers we do have left Peter is the only one that you'd put a fiver on before each game to get a goal. We need goals and Russell isnae the answer.

We need to do what QOS have done, settled defence that will stay rigid, build from the back.

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It's all about opinions-I agree about Sanny, but how dare you call LEAFY 'a joke'. He NEEDS somebody like Sanny to hold the ball up and release it at the right time and he WILL score.

If there's 'a joke' at cappielow, he doesn't don a strip.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 13:00:48
QUOTE(Edinton @ Feb 3 2008, 12:22 PM) [snapback]396097[/snapback]
Aye I'm sure it's McInally that's at fault here, and not Stevenson. rolleyes.gif

Maybe the best man to answer that question would be Alan Maitland.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 13:03:01
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Feb 3 2008, 12:23 PM) [snapback]396098[/snapback]
I know the reason also. So Dougie doesnt have to answer questions when folk are talking about the truth then try to defend himself and defer the question to a player as an excuse.

NEVER? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-03 13:06:16
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Feb 3 2008, 12:48 PM) [snapback]396119[/snapback]
Russell in the 3-1 loss to Hamilton on 29 December
Last league victory at Cappielow 4-2 v Thistle Saturday 6 October

Four months since a home win and the Manager's still here!
mortonjag 2008-02-03 13:08:38 Unlucky laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-03 13:13:38
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 3 2008, 12:21 PM) [snapback]396096[/snapback]
it wasn't me at all who started with the crocodiles. I also find this whole argument of yours that I was the one who was being arrogant amusing. If you read back you'll see I give my own beliefs and why I think creationists are wrong. It was then you, rather than accept my opinion or try and rebuff them, decided to go in a tirade in which you constantly tried to insult me. How very Christian of you.

ps. you're a ref and I have a referee question: if an attacker knocks the ball by a goalkeeper at the by-line and has an open goal infront of him but has to run past the by-line (with the ball in play) and the keeper pulls him back with both the goalkeeper and the attacker outside the line of play what is the correct course of action? My mate said penalty but I said sending off of the goalkeeper but no penalty.

Where the players are is of no consequence. If the ball's still in play and the goalie is the last man-penalty and red card.

I await the referee's decision!
mortonjag 2008-02-03 13:19:31
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Feb 3 2008, 01:15 PM) [snapback]396147[/snapback]
The guy was a f***ing c*ck. He skipped the queue with not a care in the world and pretty much mocked everyone else as he went in. The policewoman on the gate should have done something about it - but what a surprise the police in being useless shocker!!

Mind you I wasn't even going to mention this as I am far more pissed off about the terrible performance our players put in today. But then I noticed this thread and thought I would put my tuppence in.

Just a thought. Is queue jumping illegal. If not, what can the cops do? The stewards are there to carry out the wishes of the club, who have the right to refuse entry.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 13:20:35
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 3 2008, 01:12 PM) [snapback]396143[/snapback]
Oh dear, oh deary deary me.

Treason carries a charge of hanging if found guilty.

Maybe we should hold it at Scapa.

Ask to get the bag put over your head before being taken outside to the baying crowds.
I'll then arrange to prang you and replace you with a hooded JM
How does that sound, you up for it tongue.gif
What's the time, It's Time To Go !!!

What for-he never sees anything anyway.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 15:04:10
QUOTE(centralTON @ Feb 3 2008, 02:48 PM) [snapback]396218[/snapback]
Unless, of course, it's Craig Thomson.

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mortonjag 2008-02-03 15:08:32
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 3 2008, 12:42 PM) [snapback]396108[/snapback]
I very much doubt his agenda is to ruin the club he re-built. If the fans decide that is the case I'm sure they would club together to wrestle control of the club back to them in the way they had previously.

Fair enough.

You've stated that it IS his agenda. Do YOU think he's ruining the club?
mortonjag 2008-02-03 15:22:24
QUOTE(Jersey Ton @ Feb 3 2008, 01:34 PM) [snapback]396166[/snapback]
The simple answer is that the chairman can do exactly as he pleases BECAUSE HE OWNS THE BUSINESS. As you say he is accountable to various agencies, HMRC, local authority etc. but NOT the fans (except that they are customers of his business and have the right to withold their custom at any time). A football "club" is a misnomer, it is not a clubwhere there is equality with 1 member 1vote, there is no elected commitee, no office bearers chosen by the members. Greenock Morton Football Club is a company in which by direct ownership of shares and through his companies, DDFR has a "CONTROLLING INTEREST". It should be obvious to anyone with a modicum of intelligence and knowledge that this means he is in control and, unless he chooses to cede control to someone else, he can continue to do exactly as he chooses and to employ whoever he chooses, as manager or in any other capacity.
The fans can take action anytime that they choose to! Morton FC fans are in the privilidged position of having representation, through the trust, on the board of directors of GMFC. If you are unhappy about how the club is being run, join the trust, write to the trust board or raise the issue at the trust AGM. Alternatively you could write to the club, write to the Greenock Telegraph, write to your MSP, have questions raised in the Scottish parliament, organise a march, organise a rally, start a fundraising campaign, organise a boycott, protest outside the ground, form a consortium, find a backer and buy the club. That seemed to work last time but I think you might find fewer people willing to support you this time around!!!

J.T.

Thanks for the elaboration JT. You've not told me anything I didn't know already, but you have highlighted the fact that the fans have the ultimate power.

They are already voting with their feet, and the concept of this omnipotent being who can do exactly what he pleases in the running of an enterprise which ultimately depends on putting bums on seats is self contradictory.

He's stretching the loyalty of even the most die-hard Ton fans to the limit, and I imagine yesterday's result will see a fair few more drifting away, yet to date, he's seemed incapable of taking any of the blame himself.

Behaviour of this kind from a man successful elsewhere in business matters does raise serious questions-for me at least-about his state of mind.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 15:31:03
QUOTE(gmfc_stinny_gmfc @ Feb 3 2008, 01:34 PM) [snapback]396165[/snapback]
I just dont know why McInally didnt get rid of Harding and bring in a few defenders capable of defending in this division... he is not first division material... nor even 2nd division material thats what i think anyway. Okay he has had a FEW good games but the BAD games out number the good games by some margin... he really must go in the summer .... anyone agree ?

Nope-when Harding has played without Greacen he's looked comfortable. They don't complement each other. People have very short memories, but I well recall the game where we trounced Killie, after which Ryan was described by one newspaper reporter as 'outstanding'.

All players go through bad patches, and most fans look for scapegoats after results like yesterday's.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 15:34:43
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Feb 3 2008, 02:23 PM) [snapback]396201[/snapback]
Clyde really are awful, we should beat them so that's a start.

Could be win-win though, JM's time has to be up if we lose to them unsure.gif

So were Dunfermline. John Brown's just settling into the job. We can't take anything for granted.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 15:42:09 It's been a long time since Jimbo wasn't even mentioned in a MOTM poll. He was very good at Gretna-can't help wondering if the non-move to Well with the surrounding speculation has rattled him a bit.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 15:45:07
QUOTE(centralTON @ Feb 3 2008, 02:45 PM) [snapback]396216[/snapback]
The question is; would Dougie rather see us at the top of div2 and looking to win the league( adding an extra 400-500 on the gate ) or scratching around the play-off place in div1, therefore losing revenue for the club as only the hardliners will go? It may be something which has crossed his mind.

I'd imagine so.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 15:50:34
QUOTE(Deego @ Feb 3 2008, 03:22 PM) [snapback]396241[/snapback]
Both Kev and Jim are right footed.

That's what I meant-TY I have edited it!
mortonjag 2008-02-03 15:56:59
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 3 2008, 01:55 PM) [snapback]396177[/snapback]
the crowd was s***e. from the stand side the shed crowd looked poor. i was amazed that there were more than 3000 in the official attendance. embarrassing support for a cup tie but then we're f***ing s***e

Agreed-ten minutes before kick off it looked very disappointing, and although it did fill up fairly quickly, I never at any point saw a crowd of over 4,000.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 16:01:43
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Feb 3 2008, 03:34 PM) [snapback]396249[/snapback]
We know Harding CAN play well but there is no point keeping him in the team in hope that he can have one of his 3 or 4 good games he has in a season, when he is generally very good.

The rest of the time though he is a complete liability and has cost more goals than any other player in that team, and must at the very least be dropped for a few games to try and stem the flow of goals we are leaking.

As has been said, the bad games outnumber the good by about 10 to 1, so I'd drop him now.
EDIT: Is he just being used as a scapegoat even though he was at fault for [b]both goals?[/b]

If we'd given them a really decent game, and knocked in three, we would not have needed a scapegoat.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 16:03:35
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 3 2008, 04:01 PM) [snapback]396274[/snapback]
if they can't improve on that diarrhea yesterday they will go down via the play offs

If Stirling go on a run, we could go straight down!
mortonjag 2008-02-03 16:07:18
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 3 2008, 03:04 PM) [snapback]396222[/snapback]
sure?

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mortonjag 2008-02-03 16:14:18
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 3 2008, 04:08 PM) [snapback]396287[/snapback]
dougie rae? tongue.gif

i hardly know anyone that wants him to stay but then again i dont know every morton fan, but if every single morton fan wanted him gone then the crowds would be even lower, it would be shouted at games constantly followed by maybe even something like a boycott.

theres still too many people not that bothered if he stays for him to be sacked yet.

I guess the fans who are still trekking along are the more die hard among us. It wouldn't surprise me if those who have already stopped coming actually cared LESS about the issue.

I'm in absolutely no doubt whatsoever that the majority who left yesterday's miserable showing were in favour of a new manager-in fact if some of the comments I heard were to be believed, quite a few would have willingly strung JM up single handedly!
mortonjag 2008-02-03 16:17:14
QUOTE(mentalton @ Feb 3 2008, 04:11 PM) [snapback]396290[/snapback]
I like the steak pies at Cappielow, theyre yummy, its the only reason I go to the games now cos the teams shi@t.

Killie have the best steak pies, and they're s*** at the moment too. Pop down there instead.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 16:21:58
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 3 2008, 04:19 PM) [snapback]396297[/snapback]
Couldn't agree more. Nobody told us they were placing the cameras there, right where we usually stand. Ended up paying full price for a restricted view. In retrospect, maybe it's just as well the view was restricted.

I presume the club got some pennies from the TV coffers.

More than they'd have got from putting the fans first? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-03 16:27:57
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Feb 3 2008, 04:22 PM) [snapback]396301[/snapback]
Save your how dare you patter for the kids. I appreciate your opinions on this board without being rude to you.

Lets deal in fact, Leafys produced nothing since he came to us. What half chances that have fallen to him he's made a mess of it, that fresh air effort he had within 5 minutes of him comming on yesterday is like every other game he gets, so near yet so far.

Spoonsy was better playing of Temps as he at least has a better 1st touch than Russell. Your leafy won't be there to long if he doesnt get the finger out!

The ships sinking!

LEAFY may not be playing particularly well-he is NOT 'a joke', and how dare you suggest he is?

He's a professional footballer, who's moved up a division, and who works his bloody balls off in every game. It's hardly his fault if the jokes in the dugout can't play others to his strengths. The best sharpshooter in the world will never hit the target without ammunition.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 16:32:26
QUOTE(mentalton @ Feb 3 2008, 04:25 PM) [snapback]396302[/snapback]
Really, if they are better than the ones at Cappielow they must be really quite something. I usually have 2 coz one never seems to be enough, always buy one fully intending to stop at that but once I get the taste Mmmmmmmmm.
Have to eat them both before the game starts cos what Ive been watching on the park turns my stomache.

Killie pies are world famous. My partner's workmate lives in Kilmarnock, and she gets a few for us every now and again. I believe Brownings are the name on the match day pies, but they are bought locally from a retailer called 'Wales'.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 17:09:12
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 3 2008, 05:02 PM) [snapback]396326[/snapback]
No. I stated that I don't think it IS his agenda and no I don't think he is ruining the club.

Do you think the club's in good shape financially?
mortonjag 2008-02-03 17:12:14
QUOTE(mentalton @ Feb 3 2008, 04:05 PM) [snapback]396280[/snapback]
Are any of the hate McInally brigade hoping we get beat next week to seal his fate or are 3 points more important.

I certainly hate what he's doing, and I'd hate relegation.

IF losing next week would lead to changes which would guarantee safety, I'd accept that.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 17:18:22
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Feb 3 2008, 05:10 PM) [snapback]396330[/snapback]
What sh1te you talk , I think its you that is losing your marbles

You come over repeatedly as a self satisfied, and not very bright little upstart, whose nose is variably well crammed up JM's and Shoogly's arse.

'One liners' like that are the best you ever seem to produce. I take it you believe the Chairman is doing a sterling job! It would be nice to hear your reasoning, if it's not beyond your mental capabilities.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 17:21:47
QUOTE(mentalton @ Feb 3 2008, 04:37 PM) [snapback]396315[/snapback]
Do you mean your partner as in partner or tne munky.

The monkey's Mummy!
mortonjag 2008-02-03 17:23:43
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Feb 3 2008, 05:14 PM) [snapback]396333[/snapback]
WTF has killie pies got to do with us staying up, I asked a serious question on current form can we survive this season and beat the drop? I know that the chairmans aim for this season was to consolidate and remain in this league but on current form I would think he is quite worried and may have to make the decision on the manager sooner rather than later.

Well he's getting one more admission fee just because of the club's steak pies. If only he bought in Killie pies-SPL here we come.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 17:32:33
QUOTE(standman @ Feb 3 2008, 05:22 PM) [snapback]396337[/snapback]
They've gone way down in my estimation after they've both been caught playing away from home. They always portray themselves as sincere guys, indeed it makes their latest single @I want to spend my liffe with you' pretty laughable.

Have the members of a band been caught shagging?
mortonjag 2008-02-03 17:34:46 What's the big deal? All politicians are corrupt-seems the crime's getting caught. I'd love to see her sent to jail mind you-with the rest of them.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 17:36:54 puzzling?
mortonjag 2008-02-03 17:39:43 I'd settle for any eleven guys who really want to win-we don't have any rank awful players IMO.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 17:43:18
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Feb 3 2008, 05:40 PM) [snapback]396353[/snapback]
You come accross as a boring old man wth nothing else to do with his life but post on this forum , you constantly post utter drivvle and to be honest have really started to bore me to tears .

As for how I come across to you

1. I dont care what you think
2 I dont like you
3 You bore me to Death with your constant negativity

Get a life and stop spaming us with your bulls*** "I hate Dougie" campaign

Oh I could swear we've never met your majesty.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 18:15:30
QUOTE(stubaws @ Feb 3 2008, 06:04 PM) [snapback]396367[/snapback]
scott and redsox - both are wasting your time here, this guy will not stop picking at everything you say. before you know it he'll be telling us it was actually dougie (and not osama bin laden) who was responsible for the 9/11 attacks. let him have his rants if it makes hime feel better

Hold on a minute stewed baws-redsox has at least tried to put forward some opinions to counter mine-as to that other cretin-he's obviously stretching his one neurone to breaking point to post a pointless insult.

What do YOU think of the current situation at Cappielow? I did start what I intended to be a serious thread, and apart from the usual 'I don't like nasty Mortonjag' stuff, nobody seems to be disagreeing with the general points I made.
mortonjag 2008-02-03 18:19:46
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 3 2008, 06:05 PM) [snapback]396368[/snapback]
A small one I leave in for about 15 minutes on full bung. Then leave it a minute or two and check it. Usually that's enough but sometimes needs another 2/3 minutes. That's an 850w microwave mind.

A small one-it'll end up like a bloody cinder!!! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-04 07:07:09
QUOTE(stubaws @ Feb 3 2008, 06:41 PM) [snapback]396383[/snapback]
redsox has put his arguments forward and all you've done is insult him and ask if he's actually a morton supporter and started a bit of name calling - very big of you.

i can't be arsed getting into another argument with you, its pointless due to your narrow mind. again to re-iterate what i said in our last argument, i do agree with some of your points regarding the way the club is ran. however, dougie has his money and can do what he likes with it. the main problem at cappielow just now is on the field, of that there can be no doubt

The ship is running aground-I agree. The master appears to be using a faulty compass. Mr Rae IS Greenock Morton-that's about the only thing everybody agrees on, and it's time he opened his eyes before S.S. Shoogly finally goes to a watery grave.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 07:26:37
QUOTE(Jersey Ton @ Feb 3 2008, 07:42 PM) [snapback]396423[/snapback]
M.J.
I may have told you nothing you didn't already know but I certainly didn't say that the fans have the ultimate power. On the contrary, I highlighted why DDFR can do as he pleases regarding who he employs. Your assertion that the enterprise "ultimately depends on putting bums on seats" is a fallacy. That would only be true if, and only if, the continued existence of the football club was dependent on attendances. If that were the case, the club would have folded some time ago. The club continues because it is financially subsidised by Golden Casket (DDFR) and will continue for as long as it continues to be supported by Golden Casket. As I stated previously, the fans can choose to attend or not, that is our perogative and the owner can choose his staff, that is his perogative. Remember, it is possible to run a fairly succesful football club with very few fans, Just ask Brooks Mileson!
For the record, I don't think the manager has done an adequate job, I don't agree with the chairman's decision to keep him in post but I recognise his absolute right to make that decision.

J.T.

I have copies of the latest club accounts for G.M.F.C., and for Golden Casket JT.

Contrary to common opinion here, I DON'T make sweeping statements to discredit Mr Rae. He is a small businessman, who in the great scheme of things is underwriting a struggling Scottish 1st division club. His love for the club is as genuine as is his relative lack of money-a fact which is glaringly obvious to anyone with half a brain.

If Rae was 'splashing the cash' in original Mileson form (and contrary to your statement, the chickens came home to roost there) we'd be in the S.P.L. right now.

Goodness, Mr Rae is himself regularly bleating about the fans not bringing their money through the turnstyles!!!

You'll notice I'm not substantially disagreeing with the logic in your argument, merely questioning Rae's ability to sustain even first division status on the strength of his own assets.

THAT IS WHY HE CANNOT IGNORE HIS PAYING CUSTOMERS.

I notice your very witty 'haunle' JT, and it appears you have a grasp of things financial.

Maybe you are Alistair Donald firing a wee shot across the jag's bows, or who knows, you may be a GENUINELY wealthy Jersey tax exile who still loves the Ton.

If the latter is the case, you are undoubtedly the loveliest, loveliest man on God's whole earth, and I promise I will outdo the most ardent Shooglyphile in the perpetual bussing of your blessed buttocks, should you buy him out!!! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-04 07:30:04
QUOTE(Jim @ Feb 3 2008, 07:47 PM) [snapback]396432[/snapback]
d.rae should come clean. first he should tell us that all gate moneyhas been used to pay for inprovments to the ground to get a safety cert. then we will be going part time and if we stay in this division next year, we will spend what we generate at cappielow only.and if thier is someone out there who is prepared to lose money and take the s*** that goes with it ,then put it to the fans i am sure they will pat u on the back untill you have a bad spell then watch out for the knifes in the back from the very same people.

It's true Jim-a bit of honesty regarding how he sees the future would do absolutely nothing but good in the long run.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 07:31:44
QUOTE(Jersey Ton @ Feb 3 2008, 07:54 PM) [snapback]396444[/snapback]
M.J.
I disagree fundamentally with the point you made regarding DDFR losing his marbles. If the criterion you apply for insanity is disagreeing with mortonjag then there are a lot of people on this board in need of psychiatric care. As I have said earlier, the decision on the managers position is one for the owner and he must take that knowing the targets set at the start of the season as well as the financial and other implications of dismissing the incumbent.
I don't think JM is doing very well but I don't know what he has been given to work with or against what criteria his sucess or otherwise is being judged. It is feasible that 8th place and survival could have been the target and that remains within reach (for now)

J.T.

How can you possibly disagree with a question? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-04 07:33:56
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Feb 4 2008, 06:50 AM) [snapback]396731[/snapback]
Well said that man, though the moron is far too stupid to realise he bores a lot of people & he's not very bright either (he just knows a lot of big words).

He goes OTT when we lose a match, like this one, He goes OTT when we win, Just like he did after hte gretna match.

I believe it's Dr moron that's losing (or probably already lost) his marbles, But he's just too dumb to notice.
Bless him !!

DOH laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-04 07:41:38 I'd say 'I told you so' and cut my bloody throat after making a will in favour of the Monkey.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 07:44:32
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 3 2008, 09:28 PM) [snapback]396535[/snapback]
What difference does a daft wee armband make on the park really? I'd expect Jenkins to be shouting and bawling and trying to motivate his team mates whether he's captain or not and that goes for all the players.

It depends who is wearing it.

That is the WHOLE point.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 07:45:33
QUOTE(gorkir @ Feb 3 2008, 09:35 PM) [snapback]396555[/snapback]
Are you saying Lilley was good - your having a laugh he was a waste of space

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mortonjag 2008-02-04 07:50:57
QUOTE(davidh1874 @ Feb 4 2008, 12:26 AM) [snapback]396658[/snapback]
Official attendance that day was 12,000 exactly. I was one of the aforementioned season ticket holder locked out. Started queueing at 1345 and didn't even get onto Sinclair Street. Bloody glory hunters!

We arrived about 2.05 and eventually got squashed into the far away corner between the WDE and Shed.

Are those lemming creatures really Ton supporters?
mortonjag 2008-02-04 07:54:55
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Feb 3 2008, 08:44 PM) [snapback]396496[/snapback]
The guy cant cut it at this level, he's out of his depth, his skill levels for this division ARE a joke. Sure he gives 100% and runs himself into the ground, i've seen people like this all my working life, busy fools running mad but achieve nothing.......

He's had more than enough time to blend in to this team and get to know the method of play. What we paid for some of the others who aint been cutting it we could have got Dobbie who's rattled in nearly 20 goals this season against the same defenders Russells up against each week.

Much more time are you wanting to give this joke? He just is not Cappielow class.

Bloody hell-you didn't tell us you're a football manager-fancy a job?
mortonjag 2008-02-04 08:00:51
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Feb 3 2008, 08:19 PM) [snapback]396480[/snapback]
Och away get your incontinence pants on instead of stewing in your own pish

EDIT: If that is indeed true, MJ must be right all the time too tongue.gif

Ah, I love fishing in the evening

My carer had me safely tucked in bed by the time you posted, and you are correct about the incontinence pants-the greatest invention since the woman (or did they evolve?).


For a relatively young man you have a fine way with words, as highlighted!

It's also a little bit more delicate than casseroling in your own keech.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 08:05:51 I was sittting beside a BBC reporter from Dumfries who said he was there partly as a Queens fan and partly to do some post match interviews-I don't know his name-it was the bloke next to me who recognised him.


Anyway he said very little about our fans-didn't say much at all actually, but when they went two up-he gave me a sympathetic smile and said 'The difference between that side and the one which beat Gretna is a mystery'.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 08:11:48
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 3 2008, 08:45 PM) [snapback]396499[/snapback]
Either indirect free-kick going out or an indirect free-kick going in AND a yellow card depending who left the field of play first. Assuming that one or both of them left the field of play deliberately to gain an advantage. In this case probably the attacker.
TonInDublin

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Just shows how people should stick to their own jobs-eh! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-04 08:12:45
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Feb 4 2008, 01:30 AM) [snapback]396678[/snapback]
I'm obviously psychotic on a massive scale.

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mortonjag 2008-02-04 08:50:24
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 4 2008, 08:40 AM) [snapback]396759[/snapback]
Agreed, not only have I jumped the queue I have also invited ppl to join me in the queue, if anyone had said anything I would not have argued I would have went to the back of the queue without a whimper.

I do remember the last Scotland game at Celtic Park, when I arrived at the ground there was a massive queue and I was bursting for a pee, I looked around and the was absolutely no were I could do out of sight of others so in a moment of desperation I ask explained my situation to everyone right down the queue and asked if the minded, no one did and almost everyone laughed, even the polis woman at the gate thought it was funny, once in I had to sprint up about 6 flights of stairs to get to the toilet but I'm happy to say I made it. laugh.gif

The British are inveterate queuers-the very opposite of the Germans.

I remember coming back on a ferry from Denmark when the Duty Free shop had just opened, and two long and orderly queues had formed.

Out of the blue a big Kraut appeared and marched right to the front-everybody was too scared to confront him until this massive bloke in a kilt who looked like he ate cabers for breakfast tapped him on the shoulder pointing to the door simply spitting out the word 'QUEUE'!

Whether or not he spoke English, he certainly got the message, and there was a fair wee bit of jollity among the rest us.

The point being, however, that Gerry didn't think he'd done anything wrong.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 08:53:34
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 4 2008, 08:02 AM) [snapback]396753[/snapback]
nice to see u never called it a "tattie". we don't say that round these parts

OK spud.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 09:42:02
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 4 2008, 08:59 AM) [snapback]396762[/snapback]
Might have been Willie Johnston, reports for the BBC down here and is on Reporting Scotland a lot.

He told me he had been sharing breakfast with a Ton fan in Dumfries, as they waited news of the pitch inspection-guy probably late thirties, early forties, polite, and well spoken with a slight borders twang
mortonjag 2008-02-04 09:50:53
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Feb 4 2008, 09:09 AM) [snapback]396764[/snapback]
Things have to turn around if we are to stay up. Have a look at the last 8 games on soccerstats and you will find that we are, by some distance, the worst team in the league based on those games. Queen of the South on the other hand, top the league. So in terms of form, Saturday was top against bottom so maybe its not that surprising that we lost!

We have the players to turn this as I think to a large extent its a confidence thing with the players. We can play and beat teams in this league and that was proved in the early part of the season. We're stronger now in terms of squad and so we should beat at least half the teams in this league but what is missing is someone to pull it together and lift the team both on and off the park. Maybe Jenkins will help on the park. Unfortunately I don't think McInally can do the off the park bit!

I think we'll survive, but only just!

Confidence and maturity I think. When the boys get lost they look to JM for guidance and motivation-nothing is forthcoming so they're left to get on with it. Sometimes it works-mostly they just collapse in a heap.

There is not (possibly excluding Smith) a natural leader among them. It's a HELL of a burden for Alan Jenkins, but just maybe he'll be able to get some momentum going.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 09:54:17
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 4 2008, 09:07 AM) [snapback]396763[/snapback]
Stick a metal skewer through it - or a stainless steel knife. That way the heat gets conducted to the middle and it cooks more evenly, so you don't get a bit in the middle that is only half cooked. Also shortens the cooking time overall. Don't use a skewer or knife if you put it in the microwave though or you'll see an interesting lightning display and your microwave may stop working....

BPs shouldn't be cooked in microwaves - ruins the texture.

Although that's true, microwaved potatoes are far more nutritious!

You win some and lose some.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 10:27:33
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 4 2008, 10:11 AM) [snapback]396776[/snapback]
The idea that the current team being rubbish is the fans' fault is yet another excuse the decision-makers at the club will use to keep them from examining their own role in it.

There are quite a few idiots at Cappielow who let loose with totally unwarranted abuse but a lot of what is shouted really isn't that bad.

I'd suggest that any first team regular - who is picking up a decent wage for this level of football, remember - who finds themself unable to deal with the atmosphere at Cappielow should submit a transfer request, as they're never going to be able to hack it if they can't hack it now.

Correct nach0 and it's incredible just how blinkered people can be.

I remember an insolvency practitioner (not our resident bugler) telling me that in his experience the last man to see a business is going down is often the bloke who started it up.

It's quite sad to read the Chairman's programme notes-I know I give him a hard time, but it's so obvious he still thinks the fans hang on his every word, when in fact he has repeatedly alienated them with silly throw away comments.

One thing I've noticed about the latest breed of Ton fans is that they DO expect to be entertained-we rarely hear any substantial support until we're clearly putting on a decent show-so often the boys never get started on the park, and in return they get nothing from the Shed.

You are correct about the players too-many an old music hall performer wouldn't 'do Glasgow' because of the dourness of the audiences, but by God, if you could win them over, you were set up for life.

I don't care what anybody says about money-the viability of a football club lies entirely with its fans, and the sooner Mr Rae (if things are not already beyond redemption) starts giving us the entertainment and success we crave, the sooner the gates will begin to swell.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 10:30:40
QUOTE(craigeton @ Feb 4 2008, 10:06 AM) [snapback]396775[/snapback]
I can't believe the amount of posters on here that seem to think that Jenkins is some kind of messiah and is going to turn things around for us. You guys are in for one hell of a shock.

Do you know something we don't? mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-04 10:33:27
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Feb 4 2008, 10:26 AM) [snapback]396780[/snapback]
I dislike McInally, i dont hate him. Saturdays substitution and changing formation was as said on other threads a suicidal mistake but they did have a good win on monday night and at the end of the day it was the cup. The League is all we have now even though it would have been nice to see us in the next round of the cup. We need these 3 points and personally i couldnt give a flying feck what happens to McInally now. I just wish DDR and the other cronies up in the Muppet box would see sense though. I looked across to DDR when the 2nd goal went in and what a picture of a face. Surely he must be pissed off to f*** seeing the same tactical mistakes. The fans im sure will dwindle away more if we dont get the points on saturday.
3 points YES more important

McInally ?, do what ye want, cant be arsed criticising him anymore.

Mon The Ton

I coudn't see the faces Gibby, but there was a hell of a grunt from Miss Piggy.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 11:09:39
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 4 2008, 11:00 AM) [snapback]396790[/snapback]
We recently acquired a second-hand microwave that also has convection heating, and you can set it up to do both at the same time. So you can do baked spuds in it without transferring it from microwave to oven.

(If this is old hat and everyone else has had one for years then I apologise, I'd only ever seen them in America before this.)

It's old hat nach0-we had one back in the early nineties, but found they were too footery and ultimately only used the microwave function. Maybe they went out of fashion after then.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 11:20:17 I have a wee notion that the universe as we know it evoved from a packet of Cuppa Soup, discarded milions and billions and trillions of light years ago by an overfed brat on Planet Enigma.

mortonjag 2008-02-04 11:21:58
QUOTE(craigeton @ Feb 4 2008, 11:20 AM) [snapback]396800[/snapback]
Looks like it.

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Don't tell us he's a double agent for Clyde!
mortonjag 2008-02-04 11:31:41
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 4 2008, 11:21 AM) [snapback]396801[/snapback]
Sources?

It's just my own theory.

I also have a theory that Planet Enigma evolved from a horse's jobby on planet Equinus.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 11:46:39
QUOTE(theton1 @ Feb 4 2008, 11:31 AM) [snapback]396807[/snapback]
I think with the exception of grecean and harding, we have a strong enough team to stay up.
but we cannot afford to gift goals evey game, surely JM can see that our defence is substandard in this division.
JM must go , Dougie is not blind but does he have the balls to get rid of him before its to late, we might get a few good results in the coming weeks but that will only hide the truth, JM cannot motivate and has no tactical awareness.

I'm a wee bit sick of the constant flurry of criticism of Greacen and Harding. FFS only SEVEN days ago a radio commentator was describing them as probably the best defensive pairing in the division, and Gretna got no change out of them.

Because they're the last line of defence their mistakes are always exposed while others often get off with bloody murder. Why-for example is there NEVER a midfielder who's willing to accept a forward pass and take the initiative of building up moves-that's the sort of thing Stevenson used to do at Alloa-it's the sort of thing I'd have expected of Mcguffie too. Why do we have no proper full backs to give more width to the defence?

Barry Smith, IMHO, has actually been a good signing, because he has a steadying influence at the back, but he'll be away shortly.

What is sticking out a mile is that Stu and hardy have NEVER worked well together as a pairing-neither is brilliant, nor is either duff. It's up to the coaching staff to sort out problems like that, but as we know, they appear to be a dead loss.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 11:52:15
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Feb 4 2008, 11:32 AM) [snapback]396809[/snapback]
to cook a baked potato - insert 3 wooden c***tail sticks in to the potato to make a kind of tripod, stand this in the microwave blast on full power and when the sticks have went through the potato then it is ready. just make sure u remove the c***tail sticks after its cooked

might seem a bit stupid but it works!

Interesting-how far do you put the sticks in?
mortonjag 2008-02-04 11:58:31
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Feb 4 2008, 11:55 AM) [snapback]396830[/snapback]
just enough to support it, unfortunately i cant remember how long to cook it for though!

I thought you meant the tattie would collapse when it was ready so timing it is less important. I will give it a wee try and report later on the experiment! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-04 12:21:08
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Feb 4 2008, 12:01 PM) [snapback]396842[/snapback]
naw the c***tail sticks go through the tottie when it is ready!
Since when was c o c k t a i l a profane word????? laugh.gif

...and c***aleekie soup I'd guess!
mortonjag 2008-02-04 12:27:39
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 4 2008, 11:56 AM) [snapback]396833[/snapback]
No room in the shed on Saturday was my excuse tongue.gif

Was there a bright shining star in the east as well?
mortonjag 2008-02-04 13:14:33
QUOTE(theton1 @ Feb 4 2008, 12:45 PM) [snapback]396860[/snapback]
before the game on saturday we were all getting behind the team no matter what, but as soon as the first goal went in all the heads were down, its hard not to critical when you see some of the amaturest errors, but they need to know we are behind them and hear us cheer them on, If JM cannot restore the confidence then we the support should.

Oh and by the way the best football played on saturday was the kids at half time, we should see them on a regular basis, as it keeps the crowd entertained for the interval.

Even when we were winning the champinship last year the vocal support was rarely that great, because the football we played was generally JM crap. Ever since he came he's had an unfailing ability to make the most simple things difficult with his ultra cautious approach, and 'grind it out' mentality.

The present breed of Ton fans is never going to 'get right behind the boys' if the boys are not producing, and I do not blame them.

There is just SO much wrong at Cappielow right now-we DESPERATELY need fresh faces and fresh ideas if Douglas Rae is going to come out the other end of this season with any credibility left.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 13:18:16
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Feb 4 2008, 01:02 PM) [snapback]396867[/snapback]
I think I know.

Ha ha-of course you do-it was your birthday recently-am I on the right track?
mortonjag 2008-02-04 13:20:55
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Feb 4 2008, 01:03 PM) [snapback]396868[/snapback]
ohmy.gif unsure.gif

You're a year older now my little moppet-don't demean yourself.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 14:00:50
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Feb 4 2008, 01:36 PM) [snapback]396884[/snapback]
was it Jeremy beadle????? was it was it???? laugh.gif

....Singing 'My tiny hand is frozen'?
mortonjag 2008-02-04 14:03:14
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 4 2008, 01:59 PM) [snapback]396895[/snapback]
IMHO her days were numbered when she was photographed wearing at St Mirren strip. She should have resigned at that point. I sent her this email at that time, although she didn't reply (presumably due to an "administrative error"):

Dear Ms Alexander,

I note that you were recently reported in the newspapers to have worn a St Mirren strip in public. I realise that in your position you are perhaps asked to pose in various embarrassing positions and situations, but as a Morton supporter of many years standing, I feel that allowing yourself to be photographed wearing black and white stripes is a severe lapse that puts into perspective all this trivial nonsense about breaking the law and accepting illegal donations. Clearly by donning the garb of the Love Street unwashed, you have shown yourself to be totally lacking in judgement, and unfit for high office (which fortunately you have never achieved and are now never likely to achieve). It is not sufficient excuse for you to try to claim that you put on the shirt unintentionally - everyone knows what that strip stands for - and I would call on you to resign immediately for bringing the Scottish Parliament into disrepute. I realise that these strips are cheap, well under the £1000 threshold that would require them to be declared to the electoral commission, but nevertheless nobody, not even a Labour MSP, can be above the laws of fashion sense. You would never catch Alex Salmond wearing a St Mirren strip, of that I am quite sure!

Wishing you all the best in your (rapidly) impending retirement,

tongue.gif

Mind you all politicians are just skunks in fancy dress.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 15:33:33
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Feb 4 2008, 02:22 PM) [snapback]396901[/snapback]
is it still in the microwave????? plug the fecker in! laugh.gif

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I'm busy painting but promise to try it this evening and will report back! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-04 15:35:33
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Feb 4 2008, 02:55 PM) [snapback]396911[/snapback]
Well yes, if you were reading this forum on the 2nd February you'd know that. Not that I'm making light of your detective skills.

So they were sitting beside YOU-and somebody else too???
mortonjag 2008-02-04 16:37:12
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 4 2008, 04:06 PM) [snapback]396937[/snapback]
I always thought it was "duking", like a duke might just stride past the commoners all the way to the front.

"Ya f***in' duke!"

Chambers has it as jook or jouk-Scots for to duck out of something.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 22:08:19
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Feb 4 2008, 02:22 PM) [snapback]396901[/snapback]
is it still in the microwave????? plug the fecker in! laugh.gif

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Just tried it-made a nice tripod-it looked like a wee fat pig in the microwave-and left on full power-after about three minutes I heard a thump, and the bloody thing was lying on its back with its legs in the air!!! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-04 22:10:20
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 4 2008, 09:01 PM) [snapback]397083[/snapback]
I thought it was avocadoes, just like the plural of potato. But there you go, you're the teacher.

It's more of a piano than a potato DE!
mortonjag 2008-02-04 22:11:45
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 4 2008, 09:28 PM) [snapback]397103[/snapback]
He's 67 now, I feel really old! laugh.gif

Is Gordon Burns a Greenockian?
mortonjag 2008-02-04 22:14:05
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Feb 4 2008, 05:17 PM) [snapback]396962[/snapback]
David has all the components required to be a good player, but I think it's about time we were thinking about moving him on. A good player with no expertise in any position is no good to anybody.

Good at everything and not great at anything IMO.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 22:22:04
QUOTE(floydpink26 @ Feb 4 2008, 08:31 PM) [snapback]397059[/snapback]
I think what Jim is saying is tougne in cheek MJ,Yes by all means tell the fans his plans for the future of Morton.But what i think that Jim is saying is that would u prefer it if DDFR was to come out and say,He was going to run the club on profit based income as in Morton Running on the Gate Reciepts and Hospitality and Sponsorship only and go Part-Time.Until such a time as when some 1 else will come in with an offer for the club. Morton do well for the honeymoon period and things look rosey,Just to get stabbed in the back when Morton hit another bad spell by the very same ppl who wanted the new person in the first place.....and theres no finer example of that happening than our very own Chairman DDFR.

But hey im not Jim......But if u read what he posted its sarcasim.

I guess I'm not used to sarcasm laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-04 22:23:16
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Feb 4 2008, 09:17 PM) [snapback]397093[/snapback]
Whoooosh!! Not so smart after all. Tosser. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Staines!!!


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mortonjag 2008-02-04 22:24:56
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 4 2008, 07:36 PM) [snapback]397028[/snapback]
...is Craig Charleston.

Potentially the biggest game of our season and they give it to a guy who has never reffed a game above Division 2 level.

Okay he did the 2-1 win over Peterhead at Cappielow, but seems a bit of a high profile game to give him for his first taste of Division 1!

Maybe it was originally scheduled for Craig Thomson. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-04 22:29:14
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Feb 4 2008, 08:05 PM) [snapback]397040[/snapback]
Hate to point it out but you cannot catch a cold from being wet, cold etc.

It is an old wives tale wink.gif

Same as "stop playing with that it will fall off"

True, but you can catch crabs in your own wee bed.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 22:34:13
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Feb 4 2008, 07:10 PM) [snapback]397014[/snapback]
Nah, dont fancy it all, you'd only blame Shoogly for serving cold pies when I won us promotion or any other cause that you bitch about.

Could always fit you in along with Mark on the groundstaff, he'd love to have you with the amount of s***e you spout out, save Shoogly a few quid on fertiliser for the grass.

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I see we're back to Mortonjag 'spouting sh*te'.

I'm beginning to feel more at home.

So LEAFY's a 'joke'.

Then may your next keech be a hedgehog backwards.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 22:36:52
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Feb 4 2008, 07:32 PM) [snapback]397024[/snapback]
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Mj, got to give this guy his dues, he has your number laugh.gif laugh.gif

I suspect he's the Loch Lomond monster Gash-Gus from Luss.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 22:40:16
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Feb 4 2008, 09:36 PM) [snapback]397113[/snapback]
Good post mate, I thought that partnership showed some positive signs, if they can get themselves about a bit on Saturday and start to lean on some defenders as whats been happening to us this season I think we could get a few goals from them.

Peter can play and with the right person up with him to throw his weight about Wake might open up more chances. Sanny fell to the ground to easy and Russells to light as well. Id love Russell to make me eat my words, hope he does.........
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Indeed-they did a fair bit of running about getting nowhere-in fact together they almost achieved what LEAFY does himself in 90 minutes.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 22:47:54
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 4 2008, 06:25 PM) [snapback]396993[/snapback]
i wanted him before he went to the SFA but i dont want a part time manager, ill settle for John Robertson now.

How many hours a week does JM spend in Inverclyde?
mortonjag 2008-02-04 22:53:12
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 4 2008, 10:34 PM) [snapback]397178[/snapback]
By inference then I assume you've played a potato? huh.gif

Is that not JM's remit?
mortonjag 2008-02-04 22:55:14
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Feb 4 2008, 10:39 PM) [snapback]397182[/snapback]
OMFG i think i have just literally pi*hed maself!

try 4 c***tail sticks then - iv never seen a 3 legged pig! could it fly? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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You said TRIPOD!!!

Tomorrow my little piggy shall be a quadruped, and I'll report back. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-04 22:56:45
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Feb 4 2008, 10:25 PM) [snapback]397170[/snapback]
Was it hard??? biggrin.gif

Once upon a time.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 22:57:49
QUOTE(Deego @ Feb 4 2008, 10:49 PM) [snapback]397190[/snapback]
Your opinions on this highly annoying band?

Never heard of them! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-04 22:59:54
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Feb 4 2008, 10:57 PM) [snapback]397197[/snapback]
I hope you're not doing this in yer maw's new kitchen MJ.

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Nope Donga-but my partner was pissing herself laughing when that bloody tottie/tattie fell over, and called me an 'Eejit'! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-04 23:02:22
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 4 2008, 10:13 PM) [snapback]397158[/snapback]
Aye, Burns Square is named in his honour.

It was a serious question!

I once knew a Gordon Burns who lived upstairs from my Auntie Kate in 24 Trafalgar St.

She had a budgie called Joey and made fantastic tablet.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 23:05:13
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Feb 4 2008, 11:03 PM) [snapback]397203[/snapback]
I think Puggsy and his mates were sitting next to MortonJag's Auntie Kate.

In Greenock cemetery? blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-04 23:08:10
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 4 2008, 11:03 PM) [snapback]397204[/snapback]
The Pope's Wife tongue.gif

Don't tell me the old bod has finally done the honourable thing! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-04 23:11:19
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 4 2008, 11:05 PM) [snapback]397206[/snapback]
Was 24 by any chance the close that got knocked down next to the The New Roxburgh ??

As I recall it was on the corner of Holmscroft St. My Auntie Kate was the telephonist in the original Royal Beatson Memorial Hospital in Glasgow. She wasn't really my Auntie-just a good family friend, and an extremely good soul too. She used to cook us cod roe for breakfast and always burned the toast.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 23:14:10
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 4 2008, 11:08 PM) [snapback]397209[/snapback]
tongue.gif

By any chance was that meant to be The Monkey's Tea blink.gif

He refuses to eat potatoes-scared I'll call him a tattie muncher, but is partial to barbecued banana covered in coconut and drenched with honey.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 23:15:26
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 4 2008, 11:08 PM) [snapback]397208[/snapback]
No, I've never played a potato, not even under the inference. You're just being silly now.

Have you ever played a tomato?
mortonjag 2008-02-04 23:18:15
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 4 2008, 11:10 PM) [snapback]397212[/snapback]
you seem to confuse me with someone who wants JM as manager aswell.

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Not at all-I was asking a serious question-he lives in Monifeith. I gather training amounts to some six hours a week, and we play half our games away from home!
mortonjag 2008-02-04 23:19:14
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 4 2008, 11:12 PM) [snapback]397214[/snapback]
you still going on about that? tongue.gif

that decision has been the least of our worries this season.

Yes-I'm waiting for a reply from Drew Herbertson.
mortonjag 2008-02-04 23:28:01
QUOTE(Stuart Duncan @ Feb 4 2008, 11:23 PM) [snapback]397221[/snapback]
Can I just say that Danny and I don't profess to know everything about the club far from it.

We do try and make the tour as interesting as possible and we don't always get it right either. We also try, where possible, to make the tour as interesting to non Morton supporters also, who we often get at Cappielow. And we do bend the truth sometimes, but don't tell everyone ohmy.gif (it makes it a wee bit more interesting)

We do look for interesting facts that may not be well known to the average Morton supporter the stand history being one example.

As for the question about the origins of the stand(man) at Cappielow. The story about the Leith Athletic stand being reconstructed at Cappielow came from a older gentleman who had connections with the club going back many years.
How it got to Cappielow? It never crossed my mind to ask as it didn't occur to me that it would be the topic of such discussion. But I'll ask him the next time I see him..

The same source was able to tell me all about the Morton team of the mid forties and could quote it off by heart.

McFeat, Maley and Fyfe, Campbell, Aird and Whyte, Mathews, Garth, Lawton, Steel and Kelly.

Now with a memory like that I'm not going to question the validity of the gentleman's stand story.
Can I also just add that we have a very limited time to complete the tour and sometimes it is a bit rushed and we are stuck for space. We would like to organise things differently but we would probably end up with a tour that would take around over an hour to complete. Although I have to say it would be a far better experience all round.

But, we do our best and it's good to see people taking an interest in the clubs long history.

Probably well known SD, but in the Hal Stewart days, and I imagine long before that, you almost always got an encouraging blast from at least one of the trains passing behind the stand during a game..
mortonjag 2008-02-05 05:40:33
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 4 2008, 11:30 PM) [snapback]397227[/snapback]
No, no, no. Not even a tuber.

I'm pretty sure you may have guzzled the odd cornet.
mortonjag 2008-02-05 05:41:19
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 4 2008, 11:48 PM) [snapback]397234[/snapback]
he plays tom-ay-toes and you play tom-ah-toes?

Lets call the whole thing off.
mortonjag 2008-02-05 05:58:35
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 4 2008, 10:56 PM) [snapback]397195[/snapback]
I realise that Livingston and Gretna over spent and went a bit mental (and I said Ross County to an extent, who incidentally look all set to come straight back up) but I'm not using them as a model for us to copy exactly. I used them to illustrate that any club who has climbed from Division 3 to the SPL have had to be a bit ruthless and get rid of those who weren't good enough and strengthen the team each season they got promoted. Not, give the boys who got us promotion their chance - as Douglas Rae suggested.

If Morton strengthened adequately without going nuts I'd think that we have enough of a fan base to maintain a position in the SPL - much like ICT - rather than follow Gretna and Livingston.


In my opinion we aren't culpable for results at all. We are not paid to support the team. We might not help by booing or shouting abuse but the manager and players are paid to do a job and fans shouting abuse shouldn't be used as an excuse for them not achieving them.

At the end of the day, if the team was playing well and the manager was doing a good job the fans wouldn't get on their backs.

Rae is heading up what should be a successful marketing venture-he started with everything in his favour-a local man, loyal to the club, and a successful businessman with a die hard core of faithful supporters and a potential fanbase as big as any other Scottish club outside the cities.

Despite several blunders along the way, it's not very long ago at Starks Park, that he was gleefully being thrown in the air by the players, to the delight af a large following of happy fans.

FFS we had been pretty abysmal that day, and had only won the Championship by default, yet I could swear I didn't hear one fan complaining, even if I personally had a feeling of bitter sweetness about the whole affair.

Those of you who have stubbornly refused to see that that man has now totally lost the way-please at least give your fellow fans credit for a bit of intelligence.

Anybody remember the story of The Emperor's New Clothes?

That, of course, was a fairy story, but what's currently happening down Scapa way is a sorry in vivo re-enaction for the persistent thickheads who can't see the second division staring them in the face if we don't make changes pronto, and sacking JM will NOT be enough IMO.
mortonjag 2008-02-05 06:26:30
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 4 2008, 11:44 PM) [snapback]397232[/snapback]
do you really think youre going to get a reply from someone with a name like that? he's probably too busy getting bullied.

Keep up to date young man-I already had a reply about ten weeks ago which I posted on this site. I've written again to give him a gentle prod! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-05 06:28:08
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Feb 5 2008, 12:12 AM) [snapback]397237[/snapback]
I already have his lunch money tongue.gif

Is he still around ? Haven't heard his name mentioned in quite a while. Once you've heard it you never forget it.

Kind of like the ones we stumbled across in work and I kid you not :-

Yu Fanny & Anel Blower (Mrs) Yes, she really must've had the first name Anel and decided to marry someone with the surname Blower. It beggers believe.

laugh.gif Wrong bowel vowel there Gash?
mortonjag 2008-02-05 06:30:49 It's just an exaggerated manifestation of the masochism which currently affects all fans of Greenock Morton.
mortonjag 2008-02-05 06:37:56
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Feb 5 2008, 02:42 AM) [snapback]397243[/snapback]
What difference does that make? A good player doesn't always make a good manager, and that is certainly true in Butchers case.

Personally, I'd much rather have someone with a semi-respectable track record in management who was a piss player than a guy who was a good player but has been a failure pretty much everywhere he's been the boss.

Like Hal Stewart? wink.gif

I see football management as a bit of a lottery-horses for courses if you like. Paul le Guen, for example had good credentials but failed at Ibrox. Bertie 'my boyse' Vogts is another good example. Then you get a man like Derek McInnes who's stepped straight into management and seems to be faring quite well.

I believe it's about the whole formula being right at a club, and that emanates from the Chairman and Board.

I guess we will never know how good or bad JM might have been in different circumstances.
mortonjag 2008-02-05 07:19:51
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Feb 5 2008, 07:06 AM) [snapback]397251[/snapback]
Exsqeeze me? Baking powder??

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mortonjag 2008-02-05 07:46:25 Thousands of patients will be surveyed about their experiences in hospitals and health centres in the largest scheme of its kind ever launched in Scotland. Details of a new centre to co-ordinate the polls and feed back the findings to the NHS were announced yesterday by Health Secretary Nicola Sturgeon.

The initiative should help address some of the issues that matter to people but are difficult to tackle through political targets.

The standard of hospital food, cleanliness of wards and the bedside manner of staff are among subjects which will be covered by the survey. Patients will also be asked if they were involved in decisions about their care and if their preferences were respected.
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During the next few years three key patient groups will be targeted by the questionnaires: people who have stayed in hospital as inpatients, people who have visited their GPs and people with long-term illnesses.

A minimum of 7000 patients will be surveyed as part of the inpatient section alone.

Charities have welcomed the programme, called Better Together, which is expected to cost £1.3m to run each year.

Ms Sturgeon, speaking during a visit to Stirling Royal Infirmary, said: "I am confident that this new national programme will lead to real improvements in the quality of local healthcare and patients' experiences."

The minister also unveiled a leaflet called "It's OK to Ask", which contains a series of prompts to help patients prepare for an appointment with a doctor or nurse.

It gives tips, such as writing down details of symptoms and any current medication in advance. It also suggests questions patients might want to pose during the appointment, such as: "How will I find out the results of the tests?"; "Does the treatment have any side effects?"; "And are there other ways to treat my condition?".

The leaflets will be available in hospitals and GP surgeries.

Ms Sturgeon said: "The patient-friendly leaflets and information I am also unveiling today are further demonstrations of our commitment to creating a mutual NHS in which patients and members of the public fully participate. It's OK to Ask is the kind of innovative development we will see more of thanks to the patient experience programme."

A spokeswoman for Age Concern in Scotland said most people were apprehensive about going into hospital and it was important to make the experience as comfortable as possible. She welcomed the surveys and said giving patients more information ahead of any treatment was important.

However, she added: "Clearly the most important message is there must be a mechanism within a hospital where older people know from the outset who to speak to if there is a problem."

Maddy Halliday, Scotland director of the Stroke Association, said: "We warmly welcome the Scottish Government's new research initiative into patient experience of the NHS as experience internationally shows that regular research into patients' views and experiences helps to inform and improve care for all patients.

"The Stroke Association hopes that the programme will regularly seek the views of people at risk of stroke or who have survived a stroke as it is the third-greatest cause of death in Scotland and one of the most significant causes of disability."

The centre co-ordinating the patient experience surveys and findings will be run by PricewaterhouseCoopers. It will work in conjunction with NHS boards (from today's 'Herald')





Does this stupid woman have no vision and no conscience? The grass roots in the N.H.S know bloody well when patients are happy or otherwise. A vastly expensive and self perpetuating beaurocracy of managers, administrators and committees regularly baulks the most rudimentary improvements, insisting on conformity and accountability.

Much time and effort are already spent producing reams of paperwork to justify their existence, the actual delivery of care suffering substantially in consequence, yet we now get this toothless bulldog at huge expense to the taxpayer.


'We asked 100 patients what they thought about their vasectomies under local anaesthetic................................Our survey said...............



OUCH


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mortonjag 2008-02-05 08:42:45
QUOTE(jimmy boag delivers @ Feb 5 2008, 08:26 AM) [snapback]397256[/snapback]
I'm still not convinced about Jimmy Cowan's boot.
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Yeah-I'm puzzled too-firstly I'd like to know why he only had one boot-was it for his right or left foot, or was it tailor-or rather-cobbler made to fit both, and what did he wear on the bootless tootsies during a match.
I always believed there were two of them, cos' my dad used to say of modern goalies-'He's not fit to lace Jimmy Cowan's boots', and my dad was seldom wrong.
mortonjag 2008-02-05 08:53:01
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 5 2008, 08:45 AM) [snapback]397261[/snapback]
Sorry mate, but has to be in the running for Most Ironic Post Of The Year given your signature !!!!

For me, The Feeling are just another bland example of the commercial pish we've been subjected to in the last few years. The Feeling, The Killers, The Kooks, The Klaxons, The Arctic Bástard Monkeys, The Whatever Your Having Yourself - same music genre, different name.

Last time I was impressed by a band (and it wasn't yesterday) was when I first heard Kasabian. Although I grudgingly admire The Pigeon Detectives as well.

TonInDublin



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What will they think of next I wonder?


What's wrong with nice meaningful names like The Dave Clark Five?


'Pigeon Detectives'-I ask you!!!

Oh well I'm just going to form my own wee band-I think I'll call it the 'C*ckatiel Counterspies'.
mortonjag 2008-02-05 09:03:14
QUOTE(irvineTON @ Feb 5 2008, 08:58 AM) [snapback]397265[/snapback]
Wot a load of s***e.

So ur saying if any Morton fans leave early than they are like Old Firm fans? Some of ur posts are truly baffling and idiotic!!

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Anyway, I never used to leave before the end of a match. That's the honest truth, but this season I've done so on three separate occasions. I've seen the Ton come back from being three nil down to the Tims at Scapa, and being denied a winning goal by the final whistle. I always used to keep the faith 'til the bitter end, but on Saturday when Queens got the second goal I just KNEW it was curtains.

That's what it's come to, I'm afraid. sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-05 09:06:23
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 5 2008, 09:00 AM) [snapback]397266[/snapback]
Aye, that would be Willie Johnston - he was in the Doonhamer, which is a local cafe/bistro, on Saturday morning as usual, always meet him in there when I'm having my breakfast while my son is at his school football practice.

I like the thirties/forties bit!! Although a borders twang I don't have, still got my Greenock accent after all these years.

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Trust you to rectify my English composition!
mortonjag 2008-02-05 10:04:52
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Feb 5 2008, 09:20 AM) [snapback]397273[/snapback]
I'm thinking about getting one of them, wonder what my response will be?? ohmy.gif

As an aside, she really is an ugly boot.

Unfit to lace Jimmy Cowan's even! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-05 10:07:44
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 5 2008, 09:44 AM) [snapback]397276[/snapback]
Talented budgie tongue.gif

Twas the tweetest tablet I ever tasted Weegie, and he could render the 'Hallelujah Chorus' in ragtime while perching on one of his balls!
mortonjag 2008-02-05 10:11:04
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Feb 5 2008, 09:14 AM) [snapback]397270[/snapback]
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Wakes got a Roddy Hutchinson look about him, doesnt get pushed off the ball as easily as Sanny or Leafy, stands his ground and gets in amongst it. Thats what we've lacked this season, a bit of DIG. Since our first league game against Clyde it was apparent this league was more physical. Silky fitba doesnt exist in this league. Your mate Shoogly and JM have taken to long to realise that.

I agree with that-we DO need more muscle up front, and that wold take attention off players like LEAFY! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-05 10:16:23
QUOTE(Mr.Kennedy @ Feb 5 2008, 09:59 AM) [snapback]397279[/snapback]
I know this, but I'm just saying, I didn't have a cold before the game...now I do. I'm guessing I caught it at the game (maybe someone coughed at me, I dunno) tongue.gif

Gentlemen-allow me to mediate-the common cold is caused by a virus with the winsome name of Coryza. There is a school of thought which claims that prolonged chilling or soaking can lower resistance to infection. In that sense you may be more susceptible to a cold in the circumstances described.
mortonjag 2008-02-05 10:19:20
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 5 2008, 10:10 AM) [snapback]397287[/snapback]
Ouch!!

FFS-have you just had that vasectomy too?
mortonjag 2008-02-05 10:37:17
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 5 2008, 10:23 AM) [snapback]397296[/snapback]
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Anyway are we ever going to find out? Was it a Ton player?

Douglas Rae in drag perchance?
mortonjag 2008-02-05 10:48:43
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 5 2008, 10:44 AM) [snapback]397307[/snapback]
Can't honestly remember leaving a game early even if we are playing crap. There's always the possibility of seeing a goal/penalty/contentious, incident before full time.

Oh the benefits of youth!!

Just wait 'til your prostate's the size of a cricket ball and you've forgotten the incontinence knickers-getting to that wee lavvy before the queue of Willy Watchers can sometimes be a joy beyond belief!
mortonjag 2008-02-05 10:51:56
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 5 2008, 10:47 AM) [snapback]397308[/snapback]
[attachment=3693:mrs.doubtfire.jpg]

One of the very few films I ever have watched more than once Weegie-give me a good old comedy any time, and Aye there is a certain resemblance to the Shooglemeister in there. maybe he missed his calling! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-05 10:56:07
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Feb 5 2008, 10:50 AM) [snapback]397310[/snapback]
We can make fun of Fundamentalist Christians all we want (and I admit it's fun sometimes), but you have to hand it to them....they don't call for a "Holy War" or the deaths of people when we do it.

That said, I recently received a link from a friend that rehashes the Mohammed pictures from a couple of years ago.

You decide....

I have a weak stomach Trick, and I won't look at the pictures.

Do you think that any form of fundamental religion deserves marks for performance?

Frankly I'd take every one of them and torture them within an inch of their lives, before offering them the choice of renunciation or a trip to the dog meat factory. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-05 10:59:01
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 5 2008, 10:56 AM) [snapback]397313[/snapback]
Maybe they go to the same hairdressers? laugh.gif

I don't think so- I'm sure Mrs Doubtfire has a coiffeur, while Mr Rae has often been seen coming out of the two bob Barber with a baldy and big cheeser!
mortonjag 2008-02-05 12:08:54
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Feb 5 2008, 11:51 AM) [snapback]397324[/snapback]
Thats whi i support the elderly on their quest to get ALL public toilets opened around the town. wink.gif

Indeed Gibby-it's an absolute disgrace-FFS they've even got baby changing facilities in Tesco-I'd have swapped one of mine thirty years ago if that had been on the go, but we elderly dribblers have to either buy expensive incontinence knickers, or confine our shopping sorties to a maximum of fifteen minutes.

I've been told they can even arrest you for quietly relieving yourself in the midddle of the Oak Mall! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-05 12:15:10
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 5 2008, 11:39 AM) [snapback]397320[/snapback]
I'm not criticising eehbah - just pointing out that one band would have sufficed rather than the five or ten we got !
It fills a gap in the market place and there's obviously demand for it - my young lad is mad into the Arctic Monkeys, but bands like The Teardrop Explodes, Echo and the Bunnymen and The Icicle Works (to name but three) were all doing it so much better twenty years ago.

I can listen to all of the bands quoted with no pain - I just choose not to.

This is where MJ comes in and tells us the Dave Clark 5, The Who, The Kinks et al did exactly the same 20 years before the bands I quoted !

And he's probably not far wrong.

TonInDublin

Ray Davies was brilliant-this is my all time Kinks favourite!!! The highlighted verse still makes me giggle!


I met her in a club down in old soho
Where you drink champagne and it tastes just like cherry-cola

C-o-l-a cola
She walked up to me and she asked me to dance
I asked her her name and in a dark brown voice she said lola
L-o-l-a lola lo-lo-lo-lo lola

Well Im not the worlds most physical guy
But when she squeezed me tight she nearly broke my spine
Oh my lola lo-lo-lo-lo lola
Well Im not dumb but I cant understand
Why she walked like a woman and talked like a man
Oh my lola lo-lo-lo-lo lola lo-lo-lo-lo lola

Well we drank champagne and danced all night
Under electric candlelight
She picked me up and sat me on her knee
And said dear boy wont you come home with me
Well Im not the worlds most passionate guy
But when I looked in her eyes well I almost fell for my lola
Lo-lo-lo-lo lola lo-lo-lo-lo lola
Lola lo-lo-lo-lo lola lo-lo-lo-lo lola

I pushed her away
I walked to the door
I fell to the floor
I got down on my knees
Then I looked at her and she at me

Well thats the way that I want it to stay
And I always want it to be that way for my lola
Lo-lo-lo-lo lola
Girls will be boys and boys will be girls
Its a mixed up muddled up shook up world except for lola
Lo-lo-lo-lo lola

Well I left home just a week before
And Id never ever kissed a woman before
But lola smiled and took me by the hand
And said dear boy Im gonna make you a man

Well Im not the worlds most masculine man
But I know what I am and Im glad Im a man
And so is lola
Lo-lo-lo-lo lola lo-lo-lo-lo lola
Lola lo-lo-lo-lo lola lo-lo-lo-lo lola
mortonjag 2008-02-05 12:18:03
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 5 2008, 12:16 PM) [snapback]397336[/snapback]
Ghosty's got an echo, echo.

I think it was Captain Catastrophe.

The ghost of Jimmy Cowan complete with one boot?
mortonjag 2008-02-05 12:22:13
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 5 2008, 12:14 PM) [snapback]397334[/snapback]
I think my neighbours are shagging again.

Very well might be up the chocolate starfish as I just heard her shout "Ow.. too far"

Hmm-do you know LCM's neighbours-starfish come in various hues!
mortonjag 2008-02-05 12:23:43
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 5 2008, 12:21 PM) [snapback]397339[/snapback]
Jimmy Cowan, the legendary one legged footballer. Todays equivalent is Kevin Finlayson laugh.gif

Amazing how he spins round opponents.
mortonjag 2008-02-05 13:10:09 Adam Coakley?
mortonjag 2008-02-05 13:18:50
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Feb 5 2008, 01:15 PM) [snapback]397365[/snapback]
Does he?

I thought he was a central midfielder, he played there with Stranraer and any when he made his Gretna debut against us.

Maybe Jack was hoping JM would spot his post!!!!! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-05 13:19:50
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 5 2008, 01:18 PM) [snapback]397368[/snapback]
Phil Cannie, Scott Bannerman, Alex Williams.

Andy McLaren anyone?

Stefan Gonet?
mortonjag 2008-02-05 15:30:24
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 5 2008, 01:42 PM) [snapback]397381[/snapback]
Posting something twice will only help that wink.gif

Btw I'm guesing it is quiet hard but it seems very obvious when you know who it is.

A wee clue....[b]they do have some sort of connection to Morton[/b] wink.gif

Is that 'they' singular or plural?

Ex player now in different field of endeavour?
mortonjag 2008-02-05 16:10:22
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 5 2008, 04:05 PM) [snapback]397440[/snapback]
Got to agree there mate. If we went down to the 2nd division we would be struggling to get 1500 let alone 2000 regardless of whether the team was full time or part time.

I agree-the larger crowds in the lower divisions were based on novelty, success, and the prospect of promotion. If we do nothing to sort out the current mess and end up relegated, any credibility Mr Rae has left will vanish like snow off a dyke.
mortonjag 2008-02-05 16:13:43
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Feb 5 2008, 04:05 PM) [snapback]397441[/snapback]
Surely if Jim has lost the dressing room he has to go?
I mean, if he cant find the dressng room what hope does he have? He'll have to go to DDF and say "Excuse me Mr Rae, but I could swear I had that dressing room here 5 minutes ago,maybe it in my other coat"
Think he should see a doctor...

...and Mr Rae will reply-Jim I know you spend most of your time elsewhere-I agreed to that- but you MUST remember the dressing room-you know-the place where I give you and my boys the team talks, and hand out the sweeties to my favourites!
mortonjag 2008-02-05 16:15:50 Hal Stewart's hat?
mortonjag 2008-02-05 16:17:24 Apparently they'll soon be building a new housing development on the site of the old Morton football park at Cappielow.
mortonjag 2008-02-05 16:32:53 The manager of a band?
mortonjag 2008-02-05 19:56:05
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Feb 5 2008, 04:43 PM) [snapback]397482[/snapback]
Oxymoronic is such a good word - and the above is such a good example of it. It appears to be a sweeping generalisation that DDF Rae has a "relative lack of money" - relative to who - Bill Gates, Donald Trump or even Mortonjag. Please define your terms Mortonjag.

Equally, in relative terms to most supporters and the trust, DDF is a relatively wealthy individual who has decided to "invest" well over £2 million of his company's money in a footbal club. That alone could get him the lost marbles accolade but only by those who neither understand or care about the passions involved in supporting a club like Greenock Morton.

So Shoogly is passionate about SUPPORTING Greenock Morton with his 'undefined' relative wealth! rolleyes.gif

If he's so impassioned I'd suggest very strongly that he's now skint, and that's definitive enough for me.

Those who very well 'understand and care about the passions involved in supporting the 'Ton', are frankly sick of his blinkered and self indulgent ego trip, which seems to have firmly hit the buffers.

Wealth, passion and looming relegation-a syndrome highly suggestive of a loss of those marbles, Neddy.
mortonjag 2008-02-05 20:04:41
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 5 2008, 06:36 PM) [snapback]397524[/snapback]
sorry MJ, i only read about half of your posts and gave up on your craig thomson (who is the only scottish referee to be invited to a european refereeing course in cyprus it said in the paper today) complaints after about the 2nd day tongue.gif

Probably though Omonia would be an alternative to a bag of glue.
mortonjag 2008-02-05 20:08:28
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Feb 5 2008, 06:05 PM) [snapback]397515[/snapback]
I may be wrong but for a full time club that is bollocks, although perhaps our performances would suggest this to be true.

I'm only repeating what's been quoted more than once-four 90 minute sessions per week.
mortonjag 2008-02-05 20:16:57
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 5 2008, 08:13 PM) [snapback]397588[/snapback]
you cant fault him for effort.

I know-all that driving must be a hell of a strain-in fact the Chairman was only recently suggesting that a similar burden was his reason for turfing big Sanny! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-05 20:20:55
QUOTE(Loveless @ Feb 5 2008, 07:09 PM) [snapback]397544[/snapback]
The west end is the only place worth living in. Outside of that try anywhere between Gourock and Largs, or Kilmacolm, and avoid Port Glasgow.

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One man's meat is another's poisson!
mortonjag 2008-02-05 20:27:18 It's half way between Coatbridge and Bellshill Willow-taxi from Bellshill station would take about three or four minutes.
mortonjag 2008-02-05 20:30:37 So what were the great man's thoughts on the current state of Greenock Morton?
mortonjag 2008-02-05 20:35:56
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Feb 5 2008, 08:21 PM) [snapback]397599[/snapback]
What's wrong with the West End? ohmy.gif

I didn't say there was ANYTHING wrong with it, but commenting that it's the only place worth living in is rather odd.

I've lived in the poshest parts of Renfrewshire and Glasgow, and also in several less fashionable areas, and in my experience those who think they inhabit 'the only place worth living in' are often a pain in the butt.
mortonjag 2008-02-05 20:42:12
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 5 2008, 08:39 PM) [snapback]397619[/snapback]
MJ has just upset several posters on this board, just for a change tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-02-05 20:51:17
QUOTE(Deego @ Feb 5 2008, 08:50 PM) [snapback]397621[/snapback]
Avoid Inverkip.

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mortonjag 2008-02-05 20:55:00
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 5 2008, 08:53 PM) [snapback]397623[/snapback]
Scottish First Minister Alex Salmond has threatened to resign if MSPs do not back his government's first budget.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/7229224.stm

I say bring an election on !!

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mortonjag 2008-02-05 21:06:38
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 5 2008, 09:02 PM) [snapback]397628[/snapback]
Probably the thought of one useless election threatening to call another useless election.

TonInDublin

ps this chicken is rubbery.

Are you suggesting the First minister's a big dick TiD?
mortonjag 2008-02-05 21:10:25
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 5 2008, 08:58 PM) [snapback]397627[/snapback]
Wit you laffin at ow fella ?

Well let's put it this way-you're welcoming an election while you have chosen to totally ignore my earlier post about wee knickerless.

Her record is a classical example of the 'spend now-tax the mugs later' people-pleasing spin which has become the hallmark of this shower of nappy rashers.
mortonjag 2008-02-05 21:13:54
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 5 2008, 08:55 PM) [snapback]397625[/snapback]
In other words Deego's Kip tongue.gif

I always thought of Inverkip as a quaint little hamlet at the mouth of the Kip. Now I'm led to believe that any old Keegan or Deegan can abide therein.

What has become of us all? ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-05 21:34:14 'Let him who is without sin throw the first stone'! laugh.gif

FFS the way you lot are talking I think I'll just go out and botch up a bank job. It's ages since I had a decent holiday.
mortonjag 2008-02-05 21:35:52
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 5 2008, 09:32 PM) [snapback]397633[/snapback]
Oh ye of little faith....your a rather negative, pessimistic person aren't you laugh.gif

Standard translation of 'Mortonjag is correct again' tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-05 21:42:43
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 5 2008, 09:37 PM) [snapback]397636[/snapback]
Baws.. more like mortonjag talks bollox again

I know very little about politics Haggis Heid, and I don't vote any more, but I can spot a spendthrift shower of greenhorns a mile away.

I was actually quite pleased when the 'Nats' got in-a change from years of Labour mismanagement, nepotism, and incest, I thought, but I'm now bitterly disappointed, and that wee knickerless one just 'does my tits in' with her crass ignorance of the real issues within the N.H.S
mortonjag 2008-02-05 22:19:00
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Feb 5 2008, 09:51 PM) [snapback]397641[/snapback]
Jag, one of the things that I have noticed about you is your ability to try to squash those who do not answer your direct questions - those who have the temerity to question the jag are ruthlessly hounded by the organ grinder and the monkey until they admit defeat or put you on ignore, or indeed just lose the will to live.

Up until now I was prepared to give you the benefit of the doubt - a sad bugger who constantly posts on this site with no social life but argues rationally for the things he believes to be wrong at Fortress Shoogly. However the above post shows that it may be your good self who has lost his small balls.

Perhaps I was wrong to assume that just because you had the GC accounts you would be able to understand them. Might I suggest that you look under the heading called bank - the figure in there would seem to indicate that he is far from skint.

As for looming relegation - I wonder who will be more right at the end of the season....

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Aha-so he's just a niggardly old miser then-a Golden Casket Lorelei, wooing those sad and impecunious Inverclyde fools with promises of wondrous prizes, while cackling evily in the vaults at Fort Matilda as he contemplates his vast wealth and their pathetic misery.

Is that it then Neddy? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-05 22:26:16
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 5 2008, 09:47 PM) [snapback]397640[/snapback]
You can only spend the pocket money that you are given. If your gonae be angry at anybody, then Maggie Broon is the wan that dishes out the pocket money.

And where, pray, does Ms Broon's money come from in the first place?

Anyhow, have you not heard of the 'Never never'-spend now and pay later-oh and if you can't just go bust! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-05 22:31:19
QUOTE(Dr Zhivago @ Feb 5 2008, 10:16 PM) [snapback]397652[/snapback]
Have finally lost patience with the shocking broadband service I've had from Virgin Media - it rarely works!

I had heard good things about Tiscali, but when I went to their website it said you needed a BT line to move to them. It seems that if you're with Virgin Media it's not so easy to switch to other broadband providers??

Has anyone moved from Virgin to another provider? Any recommendations? Best value and most reliable? Not going to be dowloading loads, so don't need huge download capacity.

I've been delighted with Plus Net, and unless you're using cable or satellite, all broadband services require a BT line anyway. It has to be enabled for your new service provider. Virgin are obliged to release your MAC code to allow migration to another ISP. If you still have time left on your contract they can demand payment for that, but they cannot refuse to let you 'migrate'.
mortonjag 2008-02-05 22:46:33
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Feb 5 2008, 10:20 PM) [snapback]397655[/snapback]
Sounds more like a description of yourself. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Stopped laughing yet?

You're just a sad bugger from Staines-
The one with the seventeen weans
Yer Doc said-'Hey Jock
Put a lock on your c*ck'
But you poor c*nt -you hadn't the brains. sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-05 22:53:02
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 5 2008, 10:49 PM) [snapback]397668[/snapback]
It comes from us, but Maggie would rather spend oor money on Trident, illegal wars and ID cards to name but a few.

Maggie is an evil man Claymore c**k-I'll grant you that-probably much more evil than our innocent little spendthrifts at Holyrood.

That in no way excuses their profligacy, and the chickens will inevitably come home to roost.
mortonjag 2008-02-06 06:33:31
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 6 2008, 12:43 AM) [snapback]397717[/snapback]
You probably didn't hear one fan complaining that day because we'd finally made it back to the 1st division after years out of it. After experiencing the huge lows of the failures at Airdrie, Stranraer and Peterhead I wanted to enjoy a championship win as I'm sure most others did. That didn't mean people didn't have reservations about how we achieved promotion or the way the club is being run.
What will be enough?

You should know better than to ask me that!!!

What point is there in sacking a manager who's probably done his best in very difficult circumstances?

Douglas Rae must appoint a manager who has total control of the playing side of things. If, as I suspect, he is incapable of doing that, we have to gamble on getting somebody who can beat him at his own game.

Such a man, if he exists, would undoubtedly move things forward quickly. Otherwise it will be more of the same.
mortonjag 2008-02-06 06:46:06
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Feb 5 2008, 11:03 PM) [snapback]397674[/snapback]
In this context most of us can claim to be able to throw that stone!
I know I have never committed a crime that would result in jail time, and I am in the same boat as most of the population when I say that.
Fancy a hand on that bank job?

laugh.gif laugh.gif

Paddy I actually agree that many a bad b*****d gets a relatively easy life in jail.

You also must remember miscarriages of justice, incarceration pending court appearances, and the all too frequent situation where imprisonment is a mere 'cop out' because our justice system is so Victorian.


His object all sublime
He will achieve in time —
To let the punishment fit the crime
The punishment fit the crime;
And make each prisoner pent
Unwillingly represent
A source of innocent merriment!
Of innocent merriment!


One of the few sources of consolation for prisoners wrongly jailed or inappropriately bunged up, is being able to talk-getting things off the chest and sharing woes is often very effective therapy, even when it's not official counselling.

Bugging prisoners in their cells is a backward step IMO.


mortonjag 2008-02-06 06:50:58
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 5 2008, 11:12 PM) [snapback]397681[/snapback]
Maybe it would be better if we didn't send any of our money down to Maggie at all ?

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If we could keep it and use it for the general good that would be truly wonderful.
mortonjag 2008-02-06 06:59:18
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 6 2008, 12:08 AM) [snapback]397703[/snapback]
Purchasing Consultant or something similar.

SP are investing £3BN in the next 3 years in the UK and are now starting to recruit in order to handle this investment.

Apparently they're being extremely selective for my role so I don't know if that's the norm.

Are they good to work for ??

My partner's been with them for over ten years Willow. I'm sure you'll know they are now owned by the Spanish energy company Iberdrola.

Her take is that there's currently a snowballing rationalisation to try to make them more competitive. She thinks they are probably no better than most major employers-some good employee benefits etc., but a dreadful line management structure with the right hand and left hand often on a different body!!!

By the way-forget all those panic stories about Strathclyde Business Park. I know that area very well and can assure you it's only a mile or so from Bellshill town centre, or three minutes drive off the A8 Shawhead interchange (Coatbridge/Bellshill)
mortonjag 2008-02-06 07:10:24 So it's that time again Mr E
Keep smiling and soon you will C
It's not all cups of T
And problemsome P
Just busy yourself like a B

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mortonjag 2008-02-06 07:14:45
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Feb 5 2008, 11:00 PM) [snapback]397673[/snapback]
i have never had any probs with virgin(chose em coz im a cheapskate), but it might have something to do with where you stay because i have heard a lot of people complain about virgins service, but the most i have ever had to do is reboot my modem and i usually get pretty decent speeds with them.

regards to other providers, folk i know who are into doing a lot of downloading/online gaming etc (eg stuff that really requires a great connection) recommend pipex

I'm led to believe that the speed is ultimately a function of the efficiency of individual exchange lines.

BTW does anybody use a programme called Onspeed?
mortonjag 2008-02-06 08:35:59
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Feb 6 2008, 08:12 AM) [snapback]397743[/snapback]
we weren't actually that excited...ive met far more famous people than that... such as orville the duck and trojan out of gladiators laugh.gif

we just thought it would make for an interesting 6 page thread which would get a few grumpy c***s backs up tongue.gif seems like we were right...makes a change from the usual "what are you listening to?" "whats your favourite film?" "whats your favourite chocolate bar?" threads

laugh.gif I think the said c*nts were grumpy because the clues were rather unimaginitive Thrax! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-06 09:07:48
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Feb 6 2008, 09:03 AM) [snapback]397746[/snapback]
Since Eck has got into political bed wie Annabel and the tories to cut a deal on the budget there's no worries is there?

Eck's tartan tories, I'm really warming to the fella.

Dream team anyone?

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDAuditioning for the back row of the Muppets.
mortonjag 2008-02-06 09:21:00
QUOTE(tontastic @ Feb 6 2008, 09:15 AM) [snapback]397749[/snapback]
Looks like any advice i could have offered on transport has already been provided ... only thing i would add is that even by car the journey can be a nightmare ... you have the Kingston Bridge to take care of ... then the hassles of EuroCentral which can become snarled up. Obviously this all depends if it is a 9-5 job or shifts or flexi-time, as the journey could be easy enough if you could do it off-peak. Another assumption here is that you stay in Inverclyde and would not be moving that way if this is a permanent role.

Possible to leave at St. James' and use the old A 726 in through the periphery of E Kilbride-it's bound to be busy too, but probably not log jammed like the Kingston bridge.
As you say it depends entirely on start and finish times.That can also be accomplished without Tom Tom!
mortonjag 2008-02-06 09:58:06 A marmite is a French stock pot or cooking pot—like the one pictured on the front of the jar and shaped somewhat like the jar itself. The name of the French pot is pronounced "mar-MEET." The product name may have been derived from a famous French soup, petite marmite.


That stuff tastes nothing like soup, but it is nourishing.

Lovely on oatcakes with a thin sliver of mature cheddar on top.
mortonjag 2008-02-06 10:00:40
QUOTE(tontastic @ Feb 6 2008, 09:54 AM) [snapback]397755[/snapback]
So ... at this point in the season there are a range of views as far as how Morton are performing. There are calls for the manager's head ... a change of Chairman, for the team to show more dedication/guts etc. Others are pointing to the first time in this league for some time, and we should be more realistic etc.

All of that aside .... two part poll. If we could end the season tomorrow and you could choose the *lowest* position that you would be truly happy/contented/acceptive of, what would it be? I am suggesting that this is the lowest position that you would be able to look a player or the manager in the eye and say "Well Done".

And of course ... to measure where people then think we will end up ... the second question is where you think we will end up.

What's the point of the poll? i'd be interested to know how many folk would be happy to end the season in 3rd place, safe from relegation. I'd be interested to know how many people think we can climb the league to mid table or above. I'd be interested to know how many people think we are doomed to relegation.

Looks like great mind think alike-I predicted seventh at the start of the season, but will settle for third bottom.
mortonjag 2008-02-06 10:49:23
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 6 2008, 03:04 AM) [snapback]397729[/snapback]
The novelty of playing Cowdenbeath, Alloa, Peterhead, Forfar, Stirling and so forth wore off very quickly unless you've forgotten.

How could I-but success and the prospect of getting out of that mess persisted-SURELY we don't want to go back to THAT? sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-06 10:49:52
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 6 2008, 10:07 AM) [snapback]397759[/snapback]
Aye, for Neilston.

His home town.
mortonjag 2008-02-06 10:52:03 I'm presuming you mean the Clyde game.

I don't think JM will go of his own accord while his contract is still running.

As always, the future of GMFC will lie in the hands of one man.
mortonjag 2008-02-06 11:03:55
QUOTE(dazed @ Feb 6 2008, 10:38 AM) [snapback]397764[/snapback]
I hope the budget gets through as if it is not, then it would be an act of pettyness by the oposition,
however if it does not then I do not fear an election as I believe the SNP will be returned in far greater numbers.
I hope the people of Scotland are spared that as I think they are scunnered with the frequency of elections these days.

To take THE 1979 scenario when the SNP were blamed for bringing down the labour government (in fact it was also due to other parties refusing to back the Labourites , a fact that has been conveniently masked in the mists of time to suit Labour propaganda purposes) altough I still think they were wrong to do this, I remember Callaghan saying "its like the Turkeys voting for an early christmas" this would equally apply to Labour and the rest of their unionist cronies in the present day.

Also the little pic of Alex Salmond and Annabel Goldie inferring they would be political soulmates, I would merely draw to your attention the fact that Wendy Alexander,and Nicol Stephen got into bed with her first by forming their wee unionist clique and meeting in London to discuss ways of attacking the SNP!

If ever there was a case of if I dont get my way (loosing a democratic election)then Im not playing, then that was it!

The SNP tartan tories dont make me laugh! That mantle firmly belongs to Wendy and her cohorts!

Wendy is a tool of the highest order, but at least she's an experienced tool!

This is the latest offering from wee Knickerless!!!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


Sturgeon makes £270m pledge to cut NHS waiting times by 50%

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA f***IN' HA

Throwing money at the NHS has NEVER really improved anything, If she wants to make a name for herself she should be addressing the wedge of bureaucracy between government and service delivery.

She won't of course, as they are all in the same big incestuous wheel.

Just a wee girl playing at wee hooses. mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-06 11:08:50
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 6 2008, 11:00 AM) [snapback]397773[/snapback]
Once again Mr Jag you are indeed a font of all knowledge. I feel as though i have learned something today and it's not even lunch yet. Thank you biggrin.gif

Pleasure Weegie, and for all those nasty posters who think I sit all day dribbling into a hanky and catheter bag, I'm busy re-decorating the bathroom. Anybody got new ideas for cleaning old grout-I can't be arsed hacking it all out and re-grouting!
mortonjag 2008-02-06 11:11:12
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 6 2008, 11:01 AM) [snapback]397774[/snapback]
Happy bithday sir. Remember to find an appropriate place on the mantlepiece for the telegram.

May I congratulate you and wish you and Greenock Morton Football Club many happy returns of this day.


Betty.
mortonjag 2008-02-06 11:13:23
QUOTE(foxy @ Feb 6 2008, 11:06 AM) [snapback]397777[/snapback]
Dont go to Tiscali, apart from them having non UK call centre their service is awful.
I signed up for broadband & evening/weekend call package - which i never got as stated.
The broadband was perfect - unlimited downloads but all by calls got charged through BT even though i continuosly contacted tiscali to tell them, after my year was up i cancelled which was June 07.
they have now sent me letters saying i owe them money & have passed my details to a debt agency
Bloody cheek of them

Plus Net have a dedicated service team based down south. Their feedback is fast and helpful. I rarely enthuse about any service, but theirs takes some beating, AND they are very cheap to use.
mortonjag 2008-02-06 12:03:47
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Feb 6 2008, 11:59 AM) [snapback]397800[/snapback]
grouting pens work well! sell them in homebase for a couple of quid, then MJ can get back on the board with all his useful knowledge! laugh.gif

I wondered about those-the grout's not really that old-the flat's only four, and only a few bits are unacceptably stained-I might try some of those home made cleaners first. Have you actually used the pen, and does it work as well as your three legged pigs? wink.gif

BTW I haven't forgotten to try a quadruped next time I'm hungry.
mortonjag 2008-02-06 12:23:07
QUOTE(Yoda @ Feb 6 2008, 12:18 PM) [snapback]397810[/snapback]
Tried one of those once - spent two days drawing wee lines all the way round the bathroom, still wasn't happy with the results. After consulting with the other half at the time decided to re tile. He found a munro to bag urgently that weekend so was unavailable for the destruction! Any hoo got out the bolster and mallet and started to remove the tiles - to discover they were actually sheets of those pretend plastic tiles you know nine wee square tiles on a sheet. The previous owners had put them up instead!

And the thick award goes to????? ME laugh.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

I was once bricking up an old fireplace, and after I finished I sat down, for a wee refreshment --all chuffed with the result.

It was only the next day when I started the plastering that I realised I'd left three or four good quality tools behind those bloody bricks! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-06 12:26:09 I don't like the Bendy one D & C-and I know a wee bit about her private life too!

Does wee knickerless know what she's doing or will the promised halving of waiting times become known sarcastically as Sturgeon's Row?

Mind you those Holyrood wannabes know all about caviare and canapes I'll bet! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-06 12:29:18
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 6 2008, 12:01 PM) [snapback]397802[/snapback]
always trying to excuse themselves because they know they are glory hunting bigots. some common and not so common ones i've heard include

i support who my family supports

it's in my blood

i like to watch good football

i used to support morton but they sold all their best players

i come from the "port of glasgow" so support a glasgow side

my family are irish

i want to watch a team that wins things

all my mates are celtic/rangers fans

you wouldn't understand the atmosphere as you support a wee team
we're "the best fans in the world"

i'm a catholic

i'm a protestant

any more weird and wonderful excuses out there?

p.s. i'm just particularly annoyed having read a thread on p and b - how annoying is it when o.f. firms try to take some personal kudos for their team doing well. mad.gif

I support one of the old firm because....................






























































I hate those .......c*nts! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-06 13:01:06
QUOTE(Yoda @ Feb 6 2008, 12:51 PM) [snapback]397823[/snapback]
Continuing on the thick theme - but more marmite related -

Years ago my Mum, Dad and Aunt and Uncle were out for a night out at the dog racing. On their return to oor hoose, my Mum decided to make everyone a hot chocolate.

Now it should be pointed out that she'd had a couple of whiskys and didn't and still doesn't take a drink very well or very often.

So milk pan on and hot chocolate and sugar in the cups she hands everyone a cup of steaming hot cocoa, just the thing after a cold night at the dog track you'd think? Not when it's made with bisto!!! She'd got the cartons mixed up - we had an outside loo at the time there was a mad scramble for the loo key and the front door...... Funnily enough it put everyone right off marmite and bovril.....

Ah Bisto! So called, apparently, because it Browns It, Seasons, and Thickens in One. I remember my dad who would now be 88, telling me how he and his sister went out at Halloween dressed as 'The Bisto Kids'!

Anyway-I've got work to do! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-06 13:49:20
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 6 2008, 01:07 PM) [snapback]397826[/snapback]
RACIST! I call shenanigans!

You're worse! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-06 13:55:36
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 6 2008, 01:34 PM) [snapback]397836[/snapback]
I do think if we went down there would be a fair bit of resentment towards DDFR . Whether you feel he should have replaced the manager , kept his nose out of the dressing room or ensured we had a better squad from the summer .
I don't know how fans would feel at the prospect of competing with the likes of East Fife again . I do think as a club we have always looked as though we were going in the right direction ( even though progress to the 1st was stalled) so with that dented maybe we would lose a sense of belief with Dougie nd his decisions .

Correct Chris-we've been told ad nauseam that it's HIS money, HIS stadium, and HIS squad, and that we've no business asking questions as he can do exactly what he pleases.

Well, that being the case, it's now HIS f*ck up. He signed JM, and who knows whom else into the bargain! HE's made all the decisions and only one man is ultimately answerable for our current predicament. HIM.
mortonjag 2008-02-06 14:00:28
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Feb 6 2008, 01:12 PM) [snapback]397831[/snapback]
hey hawd on a minute i never said it was a pig - it was a baked tottie! you turned it into a pig!

and it worked for me! anyway back to he grouting pens, it worked for me, but then im female and i read the instructions correctly - something a man never does! tongue.gif

You are so wrong my dear-I always read the instructions if all else fails!
mortonjag 2008-02-06 14:04:27
QUOTE(El gofer @ Feb 6 2008, 01:49 PM) [snapback]397841[/snapback]
Re. the post earlier saying the West end is "the only place to live".

I left there last year having lived there for 21 years. It has many of the same problems as other areas.

I have just moved to the Port and I think its a great place to live.

West end is somewhere that is over rated IMHO.

Signed, A former resident.

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I agree with you-the most welcoming place I've ever inhabited was Partick-not very fashionable but much more cosmopolitan than you'd imagine, and beats the Mearns, and Hyndland (where I've also lived) hands down IMO.
mortonjag 2008-02-06 14:06:32
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Feb 6 2008, 02:05 PM) [snapback]397850[/snapback]
:-P what are all the good catholic boys on here giving up for lent.

Ill go wi the old faithful "sweeties" smile.gif

hee hee! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-06 14:09:18
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Feb 6 2008, 02:04 PM) [snapback]397848[/snapback]
i like celtic cause im a glory hunting bigot! rolleyes.gif there....howd you like them apples :-P

I like Rangers 'cos I'm British! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-06 14:14:04
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Feb 6 2008, 02:09 PM) [snapback]397853[/snapback]
ohmy.gif BIGOTRY!!!! STONE THE HEATHEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Tell you a story Thrax-my old Mum was maybe just a wee bit bigoted-well she was certainly a 'dyed in the wool' Proddy, and when we were weans, she was always going on about Catholics not being quite the business!

Then, when I was about twelve, she became 'bosom buddies' with the lady across the road, whom we all knew was a Catholic.

I couldn't understand, and when I asked her to explain, she replied--'There are SOME good Catholics, you know! wacko.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-06 15:42:16
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 6 2008, 03:24 PM) [snapback]397880[/snapback]
At least Tonsilitis is big enough to own up to his mistakes and not just keep quiet until things improve .
Quite a few have changed opinions it isin't illegal . I am far more worried about those who still do not acknowledge the plight we are in .

I always knew you were really Saint Christopher!

WORRIED!!! laugh.gif

Let them drown slowly in Golden Casket faeces.
mortonjag 2008-02-06 15:44:09
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Feb 6 2008, 02:58 PM) [snapback]397877[/snapback]
hahaha thats a belter of a story. Im a good catholic smile.gif

You must be one of my Mummy's SOME!!!
mortonjag 2008-02-06 16:12:59
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 6 2008, 03:55 PM) [snapback]397889[/snapback]
Intend not to have any white carbs if I can avoid it - potatoes, white bread, pasta, rice etc.

Breakfast today was soda bread and a boiled egg, lunch was poached salmon and runner beans.
I'm fúcking Hank and starting to see people as walking Sliced Whites I swear to jaysus.

Bollocks of a racket altogether.

TonInDublin

No need to bin the tatties TiD-they don't come into the bad CHO league like pappy bread. Make yourself a huge big Baked Tattie a la 'On the Piss'! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-06 20:52:12
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 6 2008, 07:18 PM) [snapback]397987[/snapback]
I remember praying before bed when I was wee. Was more like making a list to Santa "I pray I get a new bike and hunners o' sweeties!"

Perhaps it was the lack of bike and curly wurlys that destroyed my faith smile.gif

Was your faith restored when you developed curly wurlys and met the local bike?
mortonjag 2008-02-06 20:54:11
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 6 2008, 08:00 PM) [snapback]398012[/snapback]
Since Damien's murder last July the place has been cleaned up massively and is now as good as Ned free rolleyes.gif
I did however hear that a girl was attacked at the w/end whilst using the phone box at the cemetery gates, anyone hear any more about this 'Alleged Incident' ??

Black humour in there somewhere Willow!
mortonjag 2008-02-06 21:18:56
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 6 2008, 06:06 PM) [snapback]397950[/snapback]
The reason I asked is because I'm unsure what you think the solution is?

Do you think Douglas Rae should sell up (are there concrete offers from reputable businessman with the clubs interests at heart)? Do you think he should stand down and let Crawford take over? Do you think he should appoint a managing director or director of football to take over the football side of things outside the managers remit. Or would appointing a no nonsense manager be enough.

I disagree that someone working under Douglas Rae is 'very difficult circumstances'. Working under Hugh - Scott is working under very difficult circumstances, working under Vladimir Romanov is very difficult circumstances. Working at Clyde or at part-time teams lower down where there is no money for wages never mind transfer fees is very difficult circumstances.

I think most managers would kill for a chairman willing to pay: �100,000 plus for McGowan; �80,000 for Templeman; �50,000 for Williams; �40,000 for Russell; �30,000 for Weatherson; �15,000 for Linn and �11,000 for McAnespie - even if the chairman has to have a bit of a say on who the money is spent on.

Don't get me wrong, the club is not being run the way I'd like to see it run. The commercial side is a bit of a joke with potential revenue failing to be maximised. The youth set up is a total joke. I don't like the way the Chairman is rumoured to enter the dressing room and undermine his manager. I don't like the way he makes comments criticising the players publicly. I don't like the way he compares Celtic fans favourably with Morton fans. I don't like labels like the 'negativity boys' or the 'rag of a website'. I don't like the way he has to be in control or involved in all things coming out of Morton.

There's a lot I don't like about the way the chairman is running the club but I don't think McInally has had to work under 'very difficult' circumstances. Annoying circumstances maybe but not enough to take away the blame for our poor season.

All of the points you've made are valid.

I've previously made it clear that ideally I'd like Rae to take a sidestep and enjoy the rest of his time at Cappielow in an Honorary capacity, by devolving full control to a salaried director of football.

I've no idea how competent Crawford would be-given FULL control, and nobody seems to know much about the mysterious Mr Donald, and where he fits the big picture.

Now back to your main point of issue with my post.

Jonaton-have you ever worked under a boss like Rae-have you any clue as to the psychological trauma suffered by folks who feel trapped in a job-perhaps too weak to walk away, and constantly convincing themselves that 'it's better the devil you know'?

What must it feel like to be the 'gaffer', when you ultimately have to justify every tiny decision to a man with not a clue about how to do your job?

There's a hell of a lot more to being a happy football manager than just getting a few pennies to spend on players whom the Chairman has given the nod to, if not actually picked himself.

I think the nearest JM ever got to going public on that was when Rae was determined to spend EVEN MORE on Gowsa, when we could have had two or three others for his £100k.

For most people, job satisfaction has a hell of a lot to do with fulfilling personal interactions in the workplace.

That is why I can say with complete confidence that he has been working 'under very difficult circumstances'.

Before I get the backlash from the usual myopic fools who can't see that supporting Rae is now HAMPERING Morton, it would be extremely interesting to hear of one single poster who works with, or has worked with the Shooglemeister, and disagrees with those comments.
mortonjag 2008-02-06 21:35:35
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 6 2008, 06:37 PM) [snapback]397969[/snapback]
I think it's getting to a breaking point now and defeat against Clyde will make the pressure on him unbearable.

Douglas Rae hasn't even hinted at sacking him or made comments putting him under pressure (e.g. we need to start picking up points etc) and has recently allowed him to make a few signings in the transfer window. For that reason I don't think he will sack him before the end of the season.

The only way out would be to resign. For me it will be that or he'll be here until the end of the season.

Rightly or wrongly it appears to me that Rae has lost the plot. IF he had an untarnished view of reality, I believe JM would be gone long ago. He probably sits pondering our lack of success, falling gates, and discontent among the fans, and is totally incapable of taking any of the blame himself. Perhaps he secretly prays that we are just about to turn the corner, and anyway, where else would he get another manager so compliant as the ineffectual JM, who will ultimately do as the 'whipping boy' if all else fails.

Rest assured, the minute Shoogly actually sees his credibility is slipping-McInally will be gone faster than a poke of quarter pounders.
mortonjag 2008-02-06 21:38:03
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 6 2008, 09:34 PM) [snapback]398047[/snapback]
I believe McInally has turned to a new tactic , he has converted the whole squad into Roman Catholics.

During lent all the players have abstained from losing rolleyes.gif

Pardon my ignorace, but how long does Lent last? blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-06 21:41:41
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Feb 6 2008, 09:22 PM) [snapback]398041[/snapback]
This is getting ridiculous MJ. How could you possibly know this if you are only watching from the stands like the rest of us?

I did not claim to know anything-I asked a legitimate question, and I await an answer from hundreds of Rae's adoring employees past and present! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-06 22:16:46
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 6 2008, 09:57 PM) [snapback]398055[/snapback]
Until easter tongue.gif

Do you think the Ton are about to rise again?
mortonjag 2008-02-06 22:21:33
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Feb 6 2008, 10:13 PM) [snapback]398062[/snapback]
I agree that the Gibby, Branchton, Larkfield, Bow Road etc; are all becoming nicer places to live. Unfortunately a wad of their former tenants now reside in the "West End" and it's turning into a Ghetto sad.gif

Tell them to ghetto f*ck!
mortonjag 2008-02-06 22:23:18
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 6 2008, 10:16 PM) [snapback]398064[/snapback]
A vegan who eats fish once a week is not a vegan ?? Thats a cop out

A good Catholic vegan perchance? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-06 22:43:02 I just had to find that wee ditty Greacen! wink.gif

Today I arose at 5.45 a.m.

Shower and shave.

Printed off Herald crossword and completed in 11 minutes

Made breakfast for the Monkey and his mummy (porridge today made properly with oatmeal soaked overnight).

Ran the Monkey's mummy to work.

Played some happy tunes on my guitar cos' the sun was shining-'here comes the sun' etc.

Spent most of the day re-decorating the bathroom

Filled up the car with petrol and checked tyre pressures.

Picked up the Monkey's mummy from work.

Now I appreciate that that's not a lot, but FFS I am retired, and I worked my baws off doing 60 and 70 hour weeks for years on end.

Oh, and I forgot, I spent a wee bit of time on this forum.

Gracious Greacen-that's 14.000 posts.


Well I never-time for another ditty from your goodself? wink.gif

mortonjag 2008-02-06 22:49:02
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 6 2008, 10:30 PM) [snapback]398070[/snapback]
Given the prospect of putting cushy job and all its accompliments it ws a sure fire beat that MSP's like Dunky the monkey wouldn't put his gravy train at risk .


PLEASE!

Don't you mean McNeill the eel?
mortonjag 2008-02-06 22:52:30
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Feb 6 2008, 10:50 PM) [snapback]398083[/snapback]
Match days only I guess, but then the Training Ground is in Renfrewshire. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

The training ground is not - oh wise one of many w**k Staines.
mortonjag 2008-02-06 22:55:20
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Feb 6 2008, 10:53 PM) [snapback]398086[/snapback]
Good answer, and i bet a few of them are from out of town

In our wee ghetto up here a large number are from 'out of country'! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-06 23:06:42
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 6 2008, 11:01 PM) [snapback]398089[/snapback]
The SNP / Tory alliance was sickening enough but the gutless, disingenuous abstentions from the so called opposition was too much to stomach. This was not a good day for Scottish democracy.

Has something happened to spoil your day Mr Edwards? huh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-07 06:33:56
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Feb 7 2008, 01:16 AM) [snapback]398114[/snapback]
This is very interesting. I'd happily contribute £100 to some sort of 'The Jag Plays ...' charity event. Upstairs at The Darroch would be a good venue I would have thought.

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If I had the confidence SH I'd happily ententain you, but it's the old story of a shy old c*nt hiding behind a keyboard.

That's in musical terms of course. Otherwise I'm well nigh perfect I guess. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-07 06:36:34
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 7 2008, 12:18 AM) [snapback]398106[/snapback]
I've always thought that Morton fans were world leaders.

lead welders.
mortonjag 2008-02-07 06:41:02
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 6 2008, 11:12 PM) [snapback]398091[/snapback]
Vegans don't eat fish (well, you know that anyway). And vegans or vegetarians don't need any pills to supplement their diets in order to stay healthy. A big fat healthy vegetarian like myself can testify to that. tongue.gif

Not true DE-veggies are very healthy people in general but fundamentalist vegans ultimately become very ill, lacking vitamins D, and B12, and omega 3 fatty acids.
mortonjag 2008-02-07 06:44:30 Many happy returns to another 'out of towner'!

BTW my first home when we got married was in Larbert.
mortonjag 2008-02-07 06:49:18
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 6 2008, 11:43 PM) [snapback]398101[/snapback]
Well what the feck do you expect from a player under McInally's management? Has any player, apart from the goalie, been granted a settled position in the side? The poor feckers don't know where they'll be told to play, (will they be full back, half back or left back on the fecking bench) come every fecking Saturday. And just what comes of all these 'ever changing' game plans? Feck all but the same old same old, i.e. lump it up the park to the target man.

Was that harsh, Mentaljag, harsh, would you say? biggrin.gif

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Not in any way Mr Edwards, and in any case you are more than twice his age and perfectly entitled to say anything you please-like all intelligent posters over the age of sixty.
mortonjag 2008-02-07 06:51:40
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Feb 7 2008, 01:05 AM) [snapback]398113[/snapback]
You must be about my age then as that's the gaffer's that have been in charge since I began watching the club.

I rate McInally bottom of the pile. dry.gif

I rate Shoogly as a pile on Morton's bottom.
mortonjag 2008-02-07 06:57:17
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Feb 7 2008, 12:26 AM) [snapback]398108[/snapback]
That's not really a question though, is it? If it is it's a rhetorical one and it seems to me you're stating that McInally has to justify every decision to Rae, which is very bold of you.

Been in the dressing room and witnessed this first-hand, have you?

I'm not saying you're right or wrong either, but that's a wild suggestion even by your own (very eccentric) standards!

Listen Sonny boy-I have spent my whole life as a diagnostician-I've studied psychology,and am extremely interested in personal interactions and body language. Nothing I've ever said about Rae or JM has been entirely guesswork, and so far everything I've said seems to be coming true.

Furthermore I receive regular p.m.'s from other board members who for one reason or another want me to know that I'm on the right track, and I have evidence to support my statements-evidence which is confidential.

Oh and I've spent my whole life practising confidentiality too! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-07 07:02:35
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 7 2008, 01:19 AM) [snapback]398115[/snapback]
I must've missed your post(s) on the director of football. Do you have anyone in mind? This is a topic that came up on our bus to an away game this season and Warren Hawke's name was mentioned.

I doubt I've ever worked under a boss like Rae but then again I don't know what kind of boss he really is.

I honestly don't think the relationship between Douglas Rae and Jim McInally is like you think. I don't think he has to justify everything to Rae, although maybe Rae wants to know everything - a little bit different.

I don't think McInally is suffering any psychological trauma or too weak to walk away from his job. I think McInally is probably, at worst, frustrated with the chairman.

He's a man in his mid forties with a mortgage, a family to support, and little prospect of a better salary elsewhere.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if the poor bugger wishes he was a million miles away from Rae and the sinking S.S. Shoogly, but let's face it, we all strive desperately to maintain our acquired social status, often at huge personal cost.
mortonjag 2008-02-07 07:05:04
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 7 2008, 06:59 AM) [snapback]398127[/snapback]
By that measure you're not entitled (D.O.B. 25/12/2006), unless of course you are the messiah come again.
Messiah, eh? Come again?

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The programme would not accept 25/12/0000 DE-you are the first to have clocked my mischief!
mortonjag 2008-02-07 07:09:59
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 7 2008, 01:25 AM) [snapback]398116[/snapback]
After seeing most of the teams in the first quarter of the season and how poor the standard of this division is I thought we'd finish in the top half.

I still think a decent manager would be able to achieve that with the squad of players we have.

I was enjoying the first couple of months of the season FAR better than last year's painful grind-even games where we didn't get full points but acquitted ourselves well.

I know there's not been disruption on the scale of the alleged betting scam, but there's 'something rotten in the State of Denmark' down Scapa way. A new manager might be just enough short term, but it's vital surgery that's needed soon if we are to move forward.
mortonjag 2008-02-07 07:48:02
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 7 2008, 07:12 AM) [snapback]398131[/snapback]
And I am 57. The truth is so dull, don't you think.

At that age you should be full of beans of a certain variety!
mortonjag 2008-02-07 07:55:48 This is a real thought provoking thread, if ever there was one-why do folk enjoy foisting their tastes on others?

That's something I couldn't bring myself to do for all the chi in Tina.

When I was a youngster and music was music, I used to listen to Harry Lauder on the wind up gramophone.

Right now I'm listening to Radio Scotland-it's quite good sometimes.
mortonjag 2008-02-07 09:33:46
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 7 2008, 09:15 AM) [snapback]398140[/snapback]
You really have to wonder how these clowns governed for 8 years, especially after yesterday's debacle ?

Plus ca change Thistle thumbs! wink.gif


Don't you love farce? My fault I fear.

I thought that you'd want what I want - sorry my dear.

But where are the clowns? Quick, send in the clowns.

Don't bother, they're here. sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-07 10:30:05
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 7 2008, 09:45 AM) [snapback]398143[/snapback]
Very nice, where you singing that whilst typing ? laugh.gif

It's haunting wee choon which I first heard at a concert in Bellshill Academy-the singer-a seventeen year old called Sheena Orr!

No bloody Nat though-went to the States and ended up spoiling herself! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-07 10:32:23
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Feb 7 2008, 09:52 AM) [snapback]398145[/snapback]
well since you asked nicely, heres one just for you MJ... based on the classic "how soon is now?" by the smiths

I am the son
and the air
Of a penchant for the criminally boring
I am the son and air
Of nothing in particular

You shut your mouth
How can you say
such awful things about Mcinally?
He is Human and he needs to be loved
Just like everybody else does

I am the son
and the air
Of 14000 posts that are criminally predictable
I am the son and air
Of nothing in particular

You shut your mouth
How can you say
such awful things about D.D.F. Rae?
He is Human and he needs to be loved
Just like everybody else does

There's a football club, if you'd like to go
You could maybe see the team really play well for you
So you go, and you stand in the terrace
And Morton get embarrased
And you go home
And you cry
And you want to die

When you say it's gonna happen now,
Well, when exactly do you mean?
See I've already waited too long
And all my hope is gone

I am Human And I need to be loved
Just like everybody else does

Well done!

I'll remind you again at 20,000! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-07 10:35:00
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 7 2008, 10:13 AM) [snapback]398147[/snapback]
Ha!

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Well if we're playing games---


1 rat Shoogly.
mortonjag 2008-02-07 10:36:15
QUOTE(franco @ Feb 7 2008, 10:33 AM) [snapback]398152[/snapback]
I think Salmond is just as worried. Otherwise he would have threatened to resign when he didn't get backing to implement his election pledge on holding a referendum. It appears at the moment that governing a devolved Scotland is more important to him than offering the Scottish people the chance to decide on independence.

All power corrupts.
mortonjag 2008-02-07 10:57:05 Money
And
Rae
Morton
In
Trouble
EH?
mortonjag 2008-02-07 11:32:50
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 7 2008, 11:20 AM) [snapback]398161[/snapback]
I dare you to get a modem router and try and follow the instructions without throwing them out the window and just doing it yourself.

In fact I double dare you.

Awaits response from Ravenscraig after trying to do so.

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I agree entirely-many's the time I've tried to understand those modern instructions with their 'idiot proof' diagrams, and ended up working it out for myself.

Tried building any Ikea self assembly furniture recently? mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-07 11:53:16
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Feb 7 2008, 11:33 AM) [snapback]398163[/snapback]
nice one. at your current rate, that should give me a good 2 weeks to think of some ideas

I think the Beatles' 'Yesterday' is a good one to parody. huh.gif

Yesterday, Morton's troubles seemed so far away-
Now it looks as though they're here to stay
Oh, I believe in yesterday

Suddenly, there's not half the men there used to be
They're all going elsewhere on a 'free'
Oh, yesterday came suddenly

Why Rae has to go, we all know, but some won't say
He's done something wrong, now I long for yesterday

Yesterday football was an easy game to play
Now the squad all want to hide away
Oh I believe in yesterday

Why Rae has to go, we all know, but some won't say
He's done something wrong, now I long for yesterday

Yesterday, love was easy won by Dougie Rae
Now I wish that man would go away
Oh I believe in yesterday. Mm.





mortonjag 2008-02-07 11:57:02
QUOTE(tondaft @ Feb 7 2008, 11:48 AM) [snapback]398164[/snapback]
totally agree. why the hell is j.m playing mclaughlin at a left back slot at times when he could easily have mcgregor there. i'd rather have mcgregor than harding or greacen any day
GET YIR FINGER OOT DDF
TTGJ

Disagree entirely-Davie needs time on the ball, and he's NOT that great in the air. He's a good competent all round footballer but IMHO hasn't the pace for the first division.
mortonjag 2008-02-07 12:45:47
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Feb 7 2008, 12:02 PM) [snapback]398168[/snapback]
simply beautiful. made me think of another pretty good Beatles one...

Can't buy me love, love
Can't buy me love

I'll buy you Alan Jenkins my friend if it makes you feel alright
I'll borrow Barry Smith my friend if it makes you feel alright
'Cause I don't care too much for money, money can't buy me love

I'll give you all I got to give if you buy my sweeties too
I may not have a lot to give but what I got I'll give to you
I don't care too much for money, money can't buy me love

Can't buy me love, everybody tells me so
Can't buy me love, no no no, no

Say you don't need no McMenemin's and I'll be satisfied
Tell me that you want the kind of players that money just can't buy
I don't care too much for money, money can't buy me love

Superb-that red line's a cracker!

This one doesn't need much changing!


Try to see it our way,
Do we have to keep on talking till we can't go on?
While you see it your way,
Run the risk of knowing that the Ton may soon be gone

We can work it out
We can work it out.

Think of what you're doing
You can get it wrong and still you think that it's alright.
Think of what we're saying
We can work it out and get it straight, or say goodnight.

We can work it out
We can work it out.

Life is very short and there's no time---
For bossing and griping my friend.
I have always thought that it's a crime---
So I will ask you once again

Try to see it our way,
Only time will tell if we are right or we are wrong
While you see it your way,
There's a chance that we might fall apart before too long.

We can work it out
We can work it out. sad.gif

mortonjag 2008-02-07 13:15:56 I once met a friend during Lent who was rather upset-he always wore his wee black spot-good Catholic that he was. Unfortunately he'd given up smoking that morning, and ended up having to borrow mascara from a colleague!
mortonjag 2008-02-07 14:24:30
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Feb 7 2008, 02:04 PM) [snapback]398199[/snapback]
as a matter of fact i did - built a computer desk for my daughter 3 weeks ago and its still standing!

And as far as the modem router goes, i dont need to do that sort of thing, my brother does it for me!

That's a good start-try a chest of drawers next and you'll see what I mean! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-07 14:26:19
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 7 2008, 01:24 PM) [snapback]398189[/snapback]
Yahtzee!

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mortonjag 2008-02-07 14:34:42
QUOTE(centralTON @ Feb 7 2008, 02:25 PM) [snapback]398206[/snapback]
Thank you.
MJ, I was working in larbert this morning, it's become very expensive for property now, doubt you would recognise it, even the foundry has been knocked down and turned into a housing estate.
Missing my first home league game of the season on Saturday, tho', this isn't such a hardship as i will be in Prague, but, will be doing my best to keep updated with the score.

Our first home was a brand new 'Bell', subsequently 'Bellway', semi detached villa-two bedrooms, bathroom, lounge, kitchen, and single garage en suite-double glazed and centrally heated.

It cost us the princely sum of £7125.00!!!

I'm sure you can still spot it at 67 Doune Crescent.
mortonjag 2008-02-07 14:59:51
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 7 2008, 02:39 PM) [snapback]398210[/snapback]
Rejoice and hope that she goes on to lead Scottish New Labour for many, many years to come. smile.gif

http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/news/displ..._Commission.php

'However, the commission ruled that Ms Alexander had failed to take "all reasonable steps" to make sure all donations to her campaign were legal. However, they said she did take "significant steps"'

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mortonjag 2008-02-07 16:13:35
QUOTE(Edinton @ Feb 7 2008, 03:44 PM) [snapback]398219[/snapback]
Thank cod for that, I thought you were starting to flounder. Bring back the puns!

Is this the plaice for them?
mortonjag 2008-02-07 16:14:07
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 7 2008, 03:13 PM) [snapback]398213[/snapback]
Next time you're stopped for speeding then, just say....

'I'm sorry Officer but I think you'll find that although I may not have taken all reasonable steps to ensure I wasn't speeding I did however take significant steps, therefore I'll bid you a good day and be on my way.'

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mortonjag 2008-02-07 17:29:09
QUOTE(Edinton @ Feb 7 2008, 04:33 PM) [snapback]398242[/snapback]
Why not, even just for the halibut.

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We can have a whale of a time, but we'll soon be herring complaints.
mortonjag 2008-02-07 17:33:59 I'm fed up being optimistic-after the away cup tie at Palmerston I truly believed we'd turned the corner, AND was criticised for being positive!!!!! rolleyes.gif

With this lot-nae chance of consistency. John Brown will be just as desperate as JM. If we get a draw, I'll count us lucky.
mortonjag 2008-02-07 17:35:37
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Feb 7 2008, 04:28 PM) [snapback]398241[/snapback]
Interesting Chris - so you agree that things will get better ? That's my feeling too.

but you're worried about those that don't join in the daily witch hunt on manager/ players/chairman ? Personally I'd rather keep quiet until things improve. I just feel that constant criticism doesn't help anyone.

I'm (obviously) not happy with our barren spell but I'm not prepared to join any 'campaign' against the manager.

Your muteness may be protracted Cloth Ears! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-07 17:45:08
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 7 2008, 05:27 PM) [snapback]398258[/snapback]
There is a big difference between those who do not wish to openly call for the managers head ,afterall that decision lays with one man .

I do think some of the blind faith shown by some posters is worrying , given they don't back up their arguement with anything but " I'm a loyal supporter ..... call yourself fans ".

I have often stated my reservations about McInally not just when we are going through a bad spell . What has surprised me is how much a novice he now looks compared to other managers in the league .

You must be startled at our lack of organisation considering the players we have at our disposal.
I do hope we survive this season , I would love to see what some of our players could achieve with a stable defence behind them .

Would you be happy if we do avoid relegation and McInally is given even more time .

They have NOTHING left with which to back their misplaced optimism Chris.

Most of them just can't cope with those who dare to question the sanctity of their heroes, and that is truly the behaviour of immature brats.

Rae has well and truly f*cked up-he's obviously drawn in the purse strings recently at a time when we desperately needed to strengthen the squad, and he's hung on to JM to avoid paying compensation.

How pathetic is that, coming as it does from this inexorably wealthy and successful businessman who is PASSIONATE about Morton?

Seems to me he cares more about protecting his personal stash, while still desperately clinging to a self perception of saviour and fans' hero.
mortonjag 2008-02-07 20:14:24
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Feb 7 2008, 05:56 PM) [snapback]398269[/snapback]
They let you stay in the mearns? ohmy.gif

I like it for lots of reasons, cosmopolitan is a word that would have to apply here. Large jewish and muslim communities as well as taigs and proddies rubbing along very nicely.
Very little crime, good shops takeaways etc.
The only pain is the lack of decent alehouses.

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There is no lack of such establishments in Partick-I've lived in the Mearns Mr Bam-Crookfur for seven years, and then in Ryelands for four, and my kids were educated there. It's a jolly fine place in many ways, but there are too many folk there who think 'they've arrived' just because of the G77 postcode.

Oh and those taigs-I don't know why they ever let them in! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-07 20:18:45
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 7 2008, 07:08 PM) [snapback]398285[/snapback]
Sshe really is a class act right enough. Watching FMQ's, Salmond had just replied to her question. She came back with razor wit and said "Defence is the best form of attack !" A bemused Salmond stood up and said " I believe the phrase is Attack is the best form of defence" EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED
mortonjag 2008-02-07 20:25:38
QUOTE(cmdc @ Feb 7 2008, 05:52 PM) [snapback]398268[/snapback]
Thats a bit harsh, given that we've just signed McGuffie, Jenkins and Wake. I understand some players have been let go in the process, but of those only really Templeman was a big loss. I don't imagine the Gretna boys came cheap!

I don't imagine they came all that dear-their director of football's been trying to slash the wage bill, and all of those players were 'surplus to requirements'. We've got rid of Linn, Templeman, Gardyne, and Shields, and Keenan's out on loan. OK still a net outlay by the club, but remember Smith will go soon, and Wake's a Hamilton reject.

Not happy times.
mortonjag 2008-02-07 20:29:52
QUOTE(SramTon @ Feb 7 2008, 08:26 PM) [snapback]398310[/snapback]
That's what I was thinking. There are players who make things happen and there are players who are cogs.

put the latter in a rolex and they seem great. unfortunately we're currently a broken timex digital.

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Hopefully Jenkins will be our mainspring!
mortonjag 2008-02-07 20:31:47 One prediction I will make-the crowd will struggle to reach 2000 The Bookies have us as odds on favourites and the Bookies are apparently rarely wrong, but the Monkey reckons 5-2 will do him for the draw.
mortonjag 2008-02-07 20:40:39
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 7 2008, 08:35 PM) [snapback]398316[/snapback]
pish. have some respect for the dead and keep your pathetic voyeuristic gossip to yourself.



Voyeur...


1. A person who derives sexual gratification from observing the naked bodies or sexual acts of others, especially from a secret vantage point.
2. An obsessive observer of sordid or sensational subjects.

I'm sure there is a poster who recently said 'My neighbours are shagging again' laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-07 20:45:40
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 7 2008, 08:41 PM) [snapback]398321[/snapback]
I roughed it for a few years not far from Crookfur, before moving to the 'good' side of the Ayr Road. wink.gif

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Illustrates my point exactly CHC-we'd never lived in the South side before, and when we said we lived in Newton Mearns, were regularly told that Crookfur was not part of it.

Did you live in the 'Broom', or should that be 'Broomy'? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-07 20:48:46
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Feb 7 2008, 08:38 PM) [snapback]398319[/snapback]
Hoping for a win of any sorts. Praying McInally will go. Talk about rock and f**king hard place. dry.gif

Not sure about crowd. If same weather as QOS game could very well fail to reach 2000. mad.gif

Thing is, if we do lose I reckon most of the fans will at least see the end of a game for the first time in ages tongue.gif



The Road and the Miles to Dundee

Cauld winter was howlin' o'er moor and o'er mountain,
And wild was the surge of the dark rolling sea,
When I met about daybreak a bonnie young lassie,
Wha asked me the road and the miles to Dundee.

Says I, "My young lassie, I canna' weel tell ye
The road and the distance I canna' weel gie.
But if you'll permit me tae gang a wee bittie,
I'll show ye the road and the miles to Dundee".

At once she consented and gave me her arm,
Ne'er a word did I speir wha the lassie micht be,
She appeared like an angel in feature and form,
As she walked by my side on the road to Dundee.

At length wi' the Howe o' Strathmartine behind us,
The spires o' the toon in full view we could see,
She said "Gentle Sir, I can never forget ye
For showing me far on the road to Dundee".

I took the gowd pin from the scarf on my bosom -
And said "Keep ye this in remembrance o' me
Then bravely I kissed the sweet lips o' the lassie,
E'er I parted wi' her on the road to Dundee.

So here's to the lassie, I ne'er can forget her,
And lika young laddie that's list'rling to me,
O never be sweer to convoy a young lassie
Though it's only to show her the road to Dundee

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mortonjag 2008-02-07 20:51:15
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 7 2008, 08:47 PM) [snapback]398326[/snapback]
Aye, I lived in the Broomy, 1992-1996.

Mr Bam will be very impressed! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-07 20:54:39
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 7 2008, 08:44 PM) [snapback]398322[/snapback]
'The wit of Wendy Alexander'.... that in itself is quite funny. smile.gif

I was thinking more in terms of instinctive cunning-I do have to say that Bawheid doesn't exactly strike me as Mensa material either.

Peter Pan and Wendy-knocking lumps out of each other in Never Never land!
mortonjag 2008-02-07 21:19:59
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 7 2008, 09:09 PM) [snapback]398349[/snapback]
Do you mean Tam the tedious Tory taig teacher? huh.gif

He'll be on asking if that's the tedious teacher, or the tedious Tory taigs. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-07 21:26:10
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Feb 7 2008, 09:05 PM) [snapback]398346[/snapback]
Are you grooming me tongue.gif

Sounds like some sort of s*** chat up line MJ wink.gif How you pulled your wife I will never know. Must be your looks !

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Naw Gash-I was merely alluding to JM and the road to Dundee.

My wife actually pulled me-she was young and impressionable, and I had good career prospects-she discovered her mistake after about seven years, but by then we had three weans, so I didn't get turfed for quite a while.

My new partner is young too-I think she just has a soft spot for lost old men!
mortonjag 2008-02-07 21:32:04
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 7 2008, 09:25 PM) [snapback]398361[/snapback]
But excessive furry cup drinking can leave you like this

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mortonjag 2008-02-07 22:01:36
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Feb 7 2008, 09:43 PM) [snapback]398370[/snapback]
MJ has a perfectly good Mickey Mouse watch wink.gif



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mortonjag 2008-02-07 22:05:18
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Feb 7 2008, 09:44 PM) [snapback]398372[/snapback]
She doesn't have to go far to find you laugh.gif Your always here

...and she's usually in front of the telly-it's a marriage of convenience!
mortonjag 2008-02-07 22:08:58
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Feb 7 2008, 09:54 PM) [snapback]398375[/snapback]
JM's arm-folding technique has led you to the conclusion that he is on a very short leash and has to justify all his decisions to big bad Shoogly laugh.gif

You're nothing but a conspirator and a rumour-monger, Mortonjag! tongue.gif

Who are my fellow conspirators?!!

I don't spread rumours-I merely make observations and suggestions. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-07 22:11:25
QUOTE(SramTon @ Feb 7 2008, 10:06 PM) [snapback]398381[/snapback]
hmm, i did say timex digital in my orig post smile.gif

i should probably have said casio to stress the point

You simply asked if I'd ever owned a Timex-I used to love pulling old watches to pieces-now in this digital age all I've left is old confectioners! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-07 23:06:53
QUOTE(CivicTypeR @ Feb 7 2008, 11:01 PM) [snapback]398397[/snapback]
Right and the radio today when i was in a taxi speculated a hell of alot more than me, and all i did was stated a fact, then retracted the statement because I was wrong as the FACT actually had nothing to do with said murder. Whats going to possibly piss the family off about that? Not as if it was actually anything to do WITH the murder it was something completely different. So dont sit their n twist things n say i was speaking about some dead guy because i said eff all about him. What i said id say again anyway their was nothing bad in it i ment nothing bad AT ALL. So deal with it. The radio were speculating a hell of alot more than me sayin anything i wouldnt even repeat what the radio said because at this stage its mallicious rumours and i had heard them when i wrote that post last night, but i said nothing because thats all it is, RUMOURS. So if yev got a problem with anyone speculating go fone the f***ing radio n start a barmy with them.

other than that

leave 18 year old girls alone

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AGAIN!!!!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-08 05:40:51
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Feb 7 2008, 11:51 PM) [snapback]398408[/snapback]
I don't necessarily agree that Dougie is skint but what I do think is that the club is losing money hand over fist and that there has been a change in strategy so that we have a smaller squad of better players starting with those signed in the window. Whether they are better time will tell but if you have a limited budget its the way to go imho as long as you don't get ridiculously thin. If you are fulltime, you cannot make money outside the SPL unless you get a decent cup run ideally including a game against one of the old firm. I think Dougie is just trying to make the club come as close to living within its means as possible. If we had been challenging for promotion, more money might have been spent but in the situation we are in, do enough to keep us up and keep your powder dry for the next campaign.

I think we have had a net improvement to the first team over the window and we have decent players some of whom are not playing to their potential. Thats why I have come to the conclusion that we need a new manager. Compare our squad to Stirling and Clyde at least and we have better players. Whether we can make them play as a team is the issue.


And therein lies our problem I believe.

If Mr Rae had taken advice from the outset, there is absolutely no reason why we could not be playing in the S.P.L. now, but he did not, or would not.

The club slowly staggered to the first division, and Rae's bungling and amateurish self indulgences saw him (or Golden Casket) incur disproportionate outgoings with full time wages, plummeting crowds, and successive cup failures.

I refuse to accept the concept of 'consolidation' this year. Consolidation represents a planned reinforcement of assets and casting off of waste. The current situation smacks more of desperation from the man who steadfastly assured us repeatedly we were headed for the S.P.L.

One thing is certain-the purse strings have been drawn tight.

Is it possible that the Golden Casket shareholders have been able to do what the fans never could and have forced the Shooglemeister to take a long hard look at reality?
mortonjag 2008-02-08 06:57:53
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 8 2008, 06:04 AM) [snapback]398427[/snapback]
I know a few vegans that bounce. biggrin.gif I've tried cutting out dairy products numerous times but sadly, hypocrite that I am, fall back on the wayside after a month or so. Soya alternatives to milk and cheese are minging I'm afraid. I'm for giving veganism a go again though, the thought of dairy herd calves being slaughtered at birth in their thousands to be processsed as pet food, well that's just too much for a jessie like me to take. And what about poor old Mammy Coo ? We kill its children and then milk it for the rest of its miserable life. That's no way to treat a sentient being I think. So here I go, I'm a vegan again this morning. One day at a time.

Don't forget the supplements!
mortonjag 2008-02-08 07:03:02
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 8 2008, 06:33 AM) [snapback]398428[/snapback]
Fair points Franco. Salmond seems content to accept his 'Queen of Scots'. In time there's a danger he might be content to accept 'extended' devolution rather than full independence. I hope not, maybe I'm a wee bit paranoid, but I'm naturally suspicious of people who wear permanent grins. Shagger Sheridan and his permanent tan always looked ridiculous whereas Smirking Salmond and his permanent grin can look a shade sinister sometimes. A bit like Jack Nicholson as the Joker. laugh.gif

Back to my pet theory on politicians.

Why does anyone enter politics (irrespective of beliefs) in the first place.

Because he, she, or IT thinks it can make the world a better place-forget the perceived motivation-that's about power, and power corrupts.

Simple

Smiling Bawheid the silent Assassin.
mortonjag 2008-02-08 07:06:27
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Feb 8 2008, 06:45 AM) [snapback]398430[/snapback]
Why would you even care? who gives a f*** if he posts all the time, people talk about this old grandad all the time on this board, pathetic to say the least.

I couldn't agree more-I'd put the sad old c*nt on ignore but I can't.

There-he's made another dismal and pathetic addition to his post count by parroting your wise and insightful comment.

mortonjag 2008-02-08 07:08:41
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 8 2008, 07:06 AM) [snapback]398434[/snapback]
It's when the boat comes IN ya dobber. tongue.gif

'DOBBER'


When did it aspire to that dizzy height? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-08 07:10:49
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Feb 8 2008, 06:36 AM) [snapback]398429[/snapback]
Hahaha f*** sake who cares....

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Have you stopped taking those pills?
mortonjag 2008-02-08 07:20:40 post not found
mortonjag 2008-02-08 07:24:59
QUOTE(lemmington @ Feb 8 2008, 07:21 AM) [snapback]398441[/snapback]
Do you never sleep???

I get about six hours every night.

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mortonjag 2008-02-08 07:29:23
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 8 2008, 07:22 AM) [snapback]398442[/snapback]
No, I'll take some tonight. How many vitamins are there in a pint of Tennents Lager?


All alcohol-related social problems are caused by beer. You could be forgiven for believing this after recent media coverage on the topic.

Wine is never blamed for fatalities on the road, domestic violence or poverty. We have of course the lager louts who are responsible for the violence in your hospitals A&E departments. Anyone who ventures out into the ‘hostelry’s’ that serve our younger end of the population will see that it is the likes of the WDK’s and the ‘shots’ of alcohol and flavourings that are consumed in binge drinking.



It is time to set the record straight for beer.

Marianne Thysen, member of the European Parliament, stated in opening speech, moderate consumption of beer has a positive effect on health. Dr. Pilar of the university of Valancia has reported on the anti-oxidative properties of beer in vivo and in vitrio. We know free radicals are constantly produced in our bodies. They change the cell structure, denature proteins and may provoke carcinogenic changes of the nucleic acids. To prevent these reactions antioxidants function as a buffer. In beer these are phenolic compounds such as phenol carbon acids,flavonoids,and tannoids.The Spanish scientists examined the antioxidants found in beer and compared them to well known antioxidants such as vitamin C and vitamin E. The results appeared to independent of the type of beer. The most significant compounds were the proanthocyanadines which showed eight times more potential than vitamin C and fifty five times more than vitamin E. In the in-vivo tests the polyphenolic compounds isolated from beer prolonged the vitality of cells. They had an all over protective effect. Most of all they suppressed the lipid oxidation, increased the ATP contents and decreased the formation of carbonylic compounds in the cell.



Professor Dr. Dennis de Keukeleire has examined the polyphenols found in beer,mainly the flavonoids quercetin and campherol. These do have powerful anti-oxidant properties. According to the prof. , their content makes beer equivalent at to wine as regard ant-oxidative capacity. Two of the most exciting compounds are derived from hops. Xanthohumol is the most important one of the 20 compounds known up to now. However, 8_prenylnaringenin (8PN)

Seems to be a very interesting candidate too, since it able to develop a lot of possible activities in the body. The beneficial action of these compounds is most distinct against hormone caused cancers such as mammary cancer, uterine cancer, and prostate cancer. Research from Ghent shows that 8PN is very effective in preventing the aggregation of mammary cancer cells. This is a hint that it might prevent the development of metastases.

Further results show that it inhibits the activation of the cytochrome-P450 enzyme. This enzyme assists the metabolic transformation of pre-carcinogenic to carcinogenic compounds.

Work done at the German Cancer Research Station Heidelberg, showed that out of 2000 compounds examined Xanthohumol proved the most interesting compound. It was found to have a preventative effect during all stages of cancer development, from the state of emergence to proliferation. They confirmed these findings in vivo where they found that in very low concentrations Xanthohumol suppressed the development of cancer in the mammary glands of mice. Compared to reveratrol found in red wine Xanthohumol is 200 times more active.



The amount found in beer is from 0- 21 mg/l. depending on the hopping regime in the brewery.

The later the hops are added the higher the levels in the final beer. Estimates have been made of the amount of beer that must be consumed in order for a significant amount of these protective compounds to pass in the blood stream. Currently these range from 1.5 litres per day to 60 litres!! The final truth will probably be some where between these two extremes.



Work in the UK on the vitamin content of beer has shown that it contains a number of important vitamins, notably folic acid

(vitamin B9). Folic acid can protect not only from coronary heart diseases and cancer but it is also recommended for pregnant women to prevent congenital defects. About 40% of the western population die from coronary heart disease. Heath politics now tries to counteract this by recommending that people increase their intake of folic acid.



In the UK beer contributes about 10% of the daily folic acid assimilation. Work carried out on the Czech population showed that the consumption of 1l of beer per day had a very positive effect on the homocystine level in the blood. (high levels of homocystine are associated with an increased risk of coronary heart disease, folic acid reduces it to methionine).



Finally, Dr Jonathan Powell, St Thomas Hospital, London has shown that beer contains a great amount of dietetically valuable silicon in the form of its biologically available variant, ortho-silicate. New studies have shown that ortho-silicate promotes the growth of the bones. Foe adults the daily supply should be 20-50 mg depending on age and sex. Beer contains 10-40 mg/l of which 50% is assimilated into the body. Therefore beer must be considered one of the most important sources of dietary silicon.



It obvious when viewed impartially, the moderate use of beer should be promoted at a national level for the good heath of the nation.

It is not helpful to concentrate only on the cost of alcohol abuse to the NHS and not take into count the savings that beer drinking contributes.



Happy to help!
mortonjag 2008-02-08 07:38:34
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 8 2008, 07:34 AM) [snapback]398446[/snapback]
Thank you. Beer, in moderation of course, is essential for profound thinking.

Has profound thinking ever defined moderation? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-08 07:41:59
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 8 2008, 07:40 AM) [snapback]398448[/snapback]
Good question Mentaljag. I'll give that some profound consideration tonight.

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mortonjag 2008-02-08 09:22:54
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Feb 8 2008, 09:17 AM) [snapback]398455[/snapback]
I posted on this site early this morning cause im in work bored oot my nut but you are actually up at 7:10am in the morning posting on this site.

What on god's earth are you?

Sad little man

Sad little man indeed-sitting 'bored oot yer nut', and you've the impertinence to ask what I am-well I'll treat that as a serious question.

I am a retired professional gentleman-I was never 'bored' at work, and I rarely allow myself to become bored in my retirement.

I presume you just haven't the wit or intelligence to get yourself a fulfilling job.

Sad little man.
mortonjag 2008-02-08 09:41:28
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Feb 8 2008, 09:18 AM) [snapback]398456[/snapback]
It could be he is under pressure from his shareholders but bear in mind he is the majority shareholder in GC and most of the other shares are family so its not that likely in my opinion. I think though he does have a problem funding Morton's losses not so much from an inability to afford them as just the fact that they are there no matter what he does.

I think there are many things that could be done to alleviate the losses but outside the SPL I don't think they can be eliminated unless, as I say, you get the good fortune of a cup run/old firm tie - like St Johnstone a couple of years ago. Thats where their reported £350k profit came from - they had two good cup runs that year in both the Scottish and CIS cups and imet the old firm in both runs I think. That though is the luck of the draw and a business can't depend on luck!

Indeed, and it's just conceivable that those family member shareholders might have got a little upset that the Godfather's been underwriting his ego trip at their expense. Perhaps they have become thoroughly pissed off with abuse of a facility which they initially approved in good faith, only to see their own investments eroded by his rampaging and single minded stupidity.

I've been claiming lately that Shoogly is skint. Some smart ass suggested I look at the 'Bank' figure on the GC accounts, but like it or not, that's not just his money.

I have no idea what his personal wealth is, but if he wants to perpetuate his image as passionate fan, saviour, and benefactor, maybe he should start dipping into his own pocket.

Is that likely?

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mortonjag 2008-02-08 10:06:15
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Feb 8 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]398463[/snapback]
" I was never bored at work " - Aye ok then mate!

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You REALLY ARE a sad creature-no Sir I was NEVER bored in all my years in Medicine-frustrated, disappointed, angry, elated, content, tired, optimistic, pessimistic, satisfied, dissatisfied-I could go on-but NEVER bored.

For a start, I never had time to be bored-never in my whole career would I have been able to log on to a fans' website, if such diversions had existed.

Furthermore I'd suggest that there are plenty of interesting jobs out there if you're so unhappy-interesting and rewarding, if not necessarily in a pecunious way-so here's my advice to you-genine advice-take a good hard look at your circumstances-see what you can do to better your lot-life's far too short to stay stuck in a rut.

I guess you'll reply that you're trapped because you need the money.

I find that-well-



BORING.
mortonjag 2008-02-08 10:09:52
QUOTE(princessTON @ Feb 8 2008, 09:49 AM) [snapback]398462[/snapback]
just seen on inverclyde now, theres been an attempted murder in neil street just after midnight. whats happenin to this place???????????

Aye know-it's f*ckin' murder.
mortonjag 2008-02-08 10:14:14
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 8 2008, 09:26 AM) [snapback]398459[/snapback]
Because everyone know that there is currently an inbuilt majority against having a referendum - therefore if he forced the issue and resigned, and gained a few seats in any subsequent election, he would be back to square one (unless SNP support rose beyond 50% which should mean an overall majority). Being realistic, he realises he can't currently get a referendum through Parliament - it's a step function, have a referendum or don't have one, no way you could compromise and have half a referendum of 75% of one. In the budget, there is room for modification and compromise and having compromised he basically said back me or sack me. Totally different from a single issue matter like a referendum.

I can't see Alex Salmond backing off from independence - that is the raison d'etre of the SNP. The current set up is just a first step along the road.

Those two statements may not be mutually inclusive.
mortonjag 2008-02-08 11:02:20
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Feb 8 2008, 10:26 AM) [snapback]398474[/snapback]
" BORING " Now there's a word you are very familiar with.

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I knew you had stopped those pills-everything bores you and you call other people 'sad'! laugh.gif

Get a life or a proper job!
mortonjag 2008-02-08 11:07:36
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Feb 8 2008, 10:31 AM) [snapback]398476[/snapback]
As an outsider that doesn’t take any grate interest in this you think becomes it was under £1,000 she got off with it cose in the bigger picture that’s not much £ if you get me

The only thing that is stopping me voting SNP at the next election is Alex “I will run the contrary by getting my coppen on every t.v program” Samoand as soon as he buggers off to trump towers and lets we Nicola in then Scotland will go forward

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Pedro you were talking sense until that last sentence!!!!

That wee knickerless one hasn't a scooby-believe me-her new NHS is about as well planned and more profligate than the Shoogly empire at Cappielow.

Trump towers for the lot of them-Bawheid, Bendy, Tinkerbell-the whole bloody lot I say! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-08 11:39:43
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Feb 8 2008, 11:28 AM) [snapback]398484[/snapback]
Hahaha ok then

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mortonjag 2008-02-08 11:43:31
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Feb 7 2008, 03:07 PM) [snapback]398212[/snapback]
far too complex for me! bout a mfi flatpack wardrobe, 6 drawer chst an three drawer chst 2 year ago, built the 6 drawer and wardrobe myself, friends husband built the three drawer chest - only thing that doesnt sway when you open it!

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My partner's out tonight so I'll get peace to construct the quadrupig without being called an 'eejit'.

I shall report back! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-08 11:55:54 Story by Nach0king

Thursday, 21st October 2004
Former Celt, Arab Aims To Lead The Young Revolution At Cappielow
Following the ironing-out of contractual details this afternoon, the Morton board, led by Chairman DDF Rae, unanimously backed Jim McInally's bid to take the reins at Greenock Morton FC. The former player-manager at Sligo Rovers in the Irish Premier League has spent the last two years nurturing young talent at Celtic, before landing the Cappielow job under a six-point banner of his qualities as perceived by Rae following consultation with those McInally has served under previously.

From GMFC.net:

1) Ability to spot players strengths and build on same dry.gif
2) A great encourager of players unsure.gif
3) Above average ability in 'reading' a game during a match and the ability to spot and attack opponents' weaknesses. laugh.gif
4) Calm and patient under pressure sad.gif
5) Great strength of character unsure.gif
6) A players' Manager wacko.gif

It is the third, fourth and sixth points that seem to speak volumes. Many felt McCormack's tactical nous was somewhat lacking; his angry reaction to a fan's vitriolic shouts at Dumbarton late last season certainly showed him to be someone who did not react to the sometimes extreme pressure lavished upon all involved at the Greenock club. If Jim can do exactly what it says on the tin, and use the undoubted qualities of a minority of our players to guide the rest through a game tactically and strategically, he will earn the respect of all those who have resigned themselves to the grim reality that much of this squad is simply not good enough to challenge at the top.

But not all think this way. There is a small band of supporters who believe that the players simply could not perform under the increasing authoritarian auspices of Cowboy. There may be a grain of truth in it - after all, it was these same no-hopers who were at one stage 13 points clear at the top of the division. Whether or not McInally can reintroduce the spark that had Morton dominating the Division last year remains to be seen.

He may not even want to. Wary of the media stories of excess and ill-discipline in the Morton camp over the last few years, he may opt to bring in his own players if he cannot gain the cooperation of the current crop.The sixth point in Rae's list, as well as a telling announcement yesterday stating that the new manager would have to be understanding of "real life" issues regarding the players, already has lead some to fear that he may be a soft touch who the prima donnas can take for a ride.Certainly a manager these days must kow-tow to his players in a way unimaginable in the past, but it is hoped that McInally can find the middle ground between spineless compliance, and the alleged shouting matches that dogged McCormack's last weeks at the club. A true players' manager will do precisely that - act as mentor and guide to the players, but also manage the team so that spirit and discipline are not compromised.

At this stage, Jim's managerial record is not a lengthy document, comprising just one season at Sligo Rovers. But, as Craig Levein showed, it's not impossible for a young manager with only one club's worth of experience to surprise everyone by achieving quick success. We at Morton-Mad wish McInally the best of luck in this endeavour, and will be right behind him this Saturday against Berwick



HMM! I'm just bemused-where did GMFC.net get their information from-Shooglyspin.org?
mortonjag 2008-02-08 12:11:55
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 8 2008, 12:07 PM) [snapback]398497[/snapback]
Who is your alternative MJ ? Labour ? Lib-Dems ? Tories ?

I did not claim to have an alternative Bannock Baws-I'm a breaker, not a builder! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-08 12:44:59
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Feb 8 2008, 12:14 PM) [snapback]398503[/snapback]
Ploughing through old documentation looking for flaws in our current predicament is not exactly difficult at this present moment. It could be done with anything. Many fans lavished praise on Williams saying he would be a future Scotland star the way he was going, banging in 15-20 goals in the first half of the 2002/03 season. You can easily pick flaws on hindsight, it does not require any great mind to do so.

Also, of the 6 points:



1) Not convinced about this ability as for every good signing he has made, there has been at least one that has not turned out as we might have hoped
2) It may not be apparent on matchdays, but who is to say that he doesn't do that in the dressing room or in training.
3) This is the one I most strongly disagree with as too often it seems clear where the opposition weakness (or strength) is and we don't respond accordingly e.g. McAlister not taking on the full back often enough or punting high balls up to our strikers who are being marked out the game by big centre-halves
4) I would agree wholeheartedly with this
5) I would agree again
6) I would agree again
The reason I gave my thoughts on each of the points is that all you did was highlight certain points in pretty colours and write "HMM!" at the bottom of your post. What are your educated thoughts on the matter?!
I hope we win tomorrow.

Firstly I wasn't 'ploughing through old documents looking for flaws'- I was browsing something completely different and spotted this link!

Now you've asked for my 'educated' thoughts on the six points. I'm afraid that's impossible, as I am not privy to information from the dressing room, but I'll give you my observations.


1) Ability to spot players strengths and build on same--he seems to have destroyed every player who's come, Stevenson being the prime example.
2) A great encourager of players--Aye right-that's showed every time the 'chips have been down' when he's sat arms folded showing little interest.
3) Above average ability in 'reading' a game during a match and the ability to spot and attack opponents' weaknesses.---Plainly a JOKE.
4) Calm and patient under pressure--laid back and blinkered, I'd suggest
5) Great strength of character--what the f*ck is that meant to mean-how can people make ridiculous 'throw away' comments without giving examples?---maybe I'm misjudging him but I'd suggest 'can have a very stubborn streak' would be more apt.
6) A players' Manager--by definition only, again it's a loose term, but if it means he relates to the players and gains their respect and co-operation-NEVER.

Finally Dino, I think the thread provides a slightly different angle in present TTG times. Did Rae really BELIEVE all that guff, did he just want to believe it, or was it just Shooglyspin as he donned the garb of Puppeteer in Chief?
mortonjag 2008-02-08 12:55:49
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Feb 8 2008, 12:43 PM) [snapback]398515[/snapback]
I honsestly hope it works tomorrow, cause the players hwo are meant to be playing in defence are AWOL just now, well big Greasy and Hard-on......geezuz what are they playin at cause it it defending!!! You can dislike a manager all you like but at the end of the day,if 11 guys dont perform perform on the park ?the culprits need a kick up the bahooki...but we dont have the luxury of selection or squad size....

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I take it that's the new multi-cultural name for yer Gary G!
mortonjag 2008-02-08 12:58:14
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Feb 8 2008, 12:13 PM) [snapback]398502[/snapback]
Well im out tonight as well with every intention of getting rat assed - since my alcoholism has been somewhat ruined by the taking of antibiotics!

what time is it?????

It's VINO time! tongue.gif

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Nothing like honesty! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-08 13:04:59
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 8 2008, 12:23 PM) [snapback]398508[/snapback]
Well stop fukin moanin then ohmy.gif

You have got the best there is at the moment. The SNP are only in power about 8 months so at least give them a chance !



I've given them a chance FFS-they walked in the door as complete greenhorns and started behaving like a shower of pubescent teenagers at their first 'no adults' party!

They had the mandate already, but instead of maturely making small changes at first while 'sussing' the joint, they've gone totally overboard with self congratulatory people pleasing measures many of which are both impractical and prohibitively expensive.

I was pleased when they got in Tartan Testicles-they have disappointed me.
mortonjag 2008-02-08 13:07:47
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Feb 8 2008, 12:20 PM) [snapback]398506[/snapback]
He teaches chemistry to taigs, muslims, hindus, and sikhs to the best of his knowledge. unsure.gif

Whit Mr Bam-nae Proddies-that must be a selective school of some kind!!!
mortonjag 2008-02-08 13:47:14
QUOTE(Lindberg6 @ Feb 8 2008, 01:29 PM) [snapback]398532[/snapback]
is McInally now just throwing the names in the air and seeing who comes down where!?!? I seem to recall a lot of people on the board saying in the summer that a central defence pairing of Harding and Greacen would not be good enough for the first division.....unfortunately it has taken McInally until February to realise that after a series of Keystone Cops displays at the back.

He has dropped every member of the defence, McGurn, Harding, Greacen, McGregor and he now seems to be clutching at straws to try and stop the flow of goals.

The guy is a walking contradiction;

'Miller will never play for this club again' - he then plays
'mcguffie and Jenkins will now give us a great presence in midfield' - then plays him in defence
'Peter Weatherson's best position is central defence' - then plays him up front

I'm all for him trying to correct problems but it just seems to me that he doesn't really have an insight in how to do it....it seems to be trial and error....with emphasis on the error!

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mortonjag 2008-02-08 14:00:31
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Feb 8 2008, 01:52 PM) [snapback]398537[/snapback]
Close to an obsession, nay, a compulsion with regards to detailing DDFR's deficiencies and what you perceive as spin. What do you expect Rae to say in a statement regarding a new manager?! Of course he will build him up to the fans! I know that Dougie is not perfect, but to constantly bring his role up suggests that he irks you for a greater reason than simply football; I am not interested in knowing why.

I agree with you re points 1 and 2, though while Stevenson has not flourished, surely the player's attitude comes into consideration. Also, I think everyone will agree that Sanny left an improved player (in terms of heading ability and general greedyness on the ball) than when he arrived. By the same token it is not all down to the player, but the manager must take some credit also.

I agree that the "great strength of character" remark is throw away and cliched and therefore does not deserve analysis.

With regards to general calm, I think that is fair, whether you perceive it to be a laid back approach or not, the only time I can think of off the top of my head where he has lost the rag was when Mr Thomson gave us a goal and then decided against it.

The players all get on really well with JM, whether you think he is too easy on them or whatever, he still gets on with the players very well from what I hear/read.

You ask if Dougie really believed all that he wrote? Dougie is no more an expert (probably less!) on football than you or I, but it is his club and his appointment: he is fully entitled to generate a bit of optimism surrounding JM.

There are mature ways of welcoming a new manager without bullet pointing details of six characteristics-details which have largely proved to be complete pash!

Just another example of the cloud nine the Chairman was on at the time.

Do you think he's still entitled to 'do what he likes'? Do you believe he's doing a sterling job?
mortonjag 2008-02-08 14:05:21
QUOTE(franco @ Feb 8 2008, 01:42 PM) [snapback]398534[/snapback]
I still can't see the difference in the scenarios. The compromises in the budget were a convenient get out for Margo Mac and the Tories - total cost £30M, not worth the effort for John Swinney to stop and pick it up if he dropped it. He had a great laugh on the news last night explaining just how cheap a deal it was. Labour and the LibDems got nothing and abstained. None of them are brave enough to fight an election now. Even if Salmond lost a vote on having a referendum, he could resign and use a forthcoming election purely as an independence issue, a straight yes/no decision - I think the Scottish people would understand that and vote accordingly, and it may actually be Salmonds best chance of winning again as the sense of injustice at being prevented from having a referendum could work in his favour.

And when you think about it, there's no reason he couldn't work a deal with the tories to support a referendum. Offers of cabinet posts, shared power, future budget guarantees etc[b]. They seem half way there already, why not formalise it?[/b]

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mortonjag 2008-02-08 14:18:51
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Feb 8 2008, 02:12 PM) [snapback]398546[/snapback]
He's been very disappointing, and I have to admit i was shouting and balling at him a few times on SAt, but we've got to give any new player a chance to settle, something we are criminal for not doing at Cappielow...

Let's remember, the guy was at his previous club a LONG time. He'll definitely improve.

He played pretty well at Palmerston-they ALL did-we live in strange times!
mortonjag 2008-02-08 14:20:19
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Feb 8 2008, 02:05 PM) [snapback]398542[/snapback]
Is that not what gossip is?

I've heard that too-may just be idle tittle tattle though!
mortonjag 2008-02-08 14:22:50
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 8 2008, 02:13 PM) [snapback]398547[/snapback]
I doubt anyone on Gods green Earth could please you ya grumpy bassa dry.gif

The SNP are doing a fine job under the restrictive circumstances

Same could be said of Jim McInally! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-08 15:15:28
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 8 2008, 02:38 PM) [snapback]398553[/snapback]
Betting on Dustin now stopped by BoyleSports. Odds went from 33/1 to 5/2 ON when news that he was going to be one of the six finalists, and it was a public vote, became common knowledge.

The Irish aren't as daft as you think lads !

Love Dustin - he got Ray D'Arcy banned form kids TV just after the start of December one year ........ kinda went like this .....

Daddy Ray daddy Ray, I can do farmyard impressions, what'd ya loik to hear ? Ask me what the animals say ...

Ok what does a cow say ......

Mooooooo, gimme a hard one though

What does a sheep say .......

Baaaa, make it harder though

Alright, what does a pig say ?

"can you blow into this bag sir?"

Superb - a one week ban for the most inoffensive tv presenter ever.

His first album is outstanding, the highlight for me being his cover version of that Diva classic "I've been to Palmerstown but I've never been to Meath"

TonInDublin

Who is this Dustin chap-is he a youngster or an oldie-the only guy I ever knew with a name like that was Dustin A. Dyson.
mortonjag 2008-02-08 16:30:50
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 8 2008, 03:28 PM) [snapback]398558[/snapback]
MJ, we gather you don't like Nicola Sturgeon. I assume when you told her you were 69, she misheard you and thought you were asking her for a bit of horizontal action, and that's why she kneed you in the goolies.
Pedro, the reason it was just under £1000 was because that is the cut off level above which she had to reveal the names of the donors. she didn't want to do that because she knew perfectly well that some of the donors were illegal; and also knew that one of her donors was on the electoral commission. In legal terms, the amount is irrelevant; it's a bit like saying you can get off with stabbing someone if you stab them less than three times, but above that you will get convicted. she broke the law, end of story.

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Nothing personal against the wee soul-I'm sure she does her very, very best Alibi-it's just that she has the most scatterbrained proposals for her new NHS.

I'd just love to see somebody come in and tackle the real problems, but that just won't happen-it's not just the SNP who can't cope with the ill conceived monstrosity mind you.
mortonjag 2008-02-08 16:33:58
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Feb 8 2008, 04:17 PM) [snapback]398567[/snapback]
Och admin do us all a favour and just delete this whole thread.

Will save CivictypeR prematurely aging and being set upon by the terriers on here

I know how she feels-she made a wee mistake and has been pilloried by the pure in heart.
mortonjag 2008-02-08 16:40:04
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Feb 8 2008, 04:21 PM) [snapback]398568[/snapback]
I can't honestly say that anytime I have had to take antibiotics I haven't drank on top of them.

MJ, what damage would that do or does it just mean the antibiotics wouldn't have worked and I still have my STD laugh.gif laugh.gif

Most antibiotics could be safely taken with alcohol. It's not recommended because of the risk of unusual interactions with liver enzymes.

Some are strictly forbidden with booze-anti fungals for example like Flagyl.

Whatever made you think antibiotics would enlarge your size ten dick?

mortonjag 2008-02-08 17:21:46
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Feb 8 2008, 04:47 PM) [snapback]398578[/snapback]
For those of us not aware what are her plans MJ ?

As a retired Doc you should have a pretty good arguement lined up (as always ;) )

My opinion of the NHS is it has been in crisis for a number of years now and with the constant migration for Europe into this country will continue to get worse. I appreciate it was set-up to provide good healthcare to all without prejudice but there has to be an arguement for a type of health insurance system to be introduced. Having said that, with quotes of around 47 million Americans kicking around without insurance there is also the arguement against.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Where do I start gash-if I do I'll never finish. Suffice to say that immediately after the new government was sworn in she announced that her brand spanking new Scottish NHS would meet demand, without further involvement of the private sector.

That was all I needed to hear, and your own comments indicate that a man in the street has more common sense than our Health Minister.

The NHS has NEVER EVER met 'demand' and never could. With a limited slice of the budget each year, only so much is possible, yet she'sgone on to announce further scatterbrained ideas-the latest to spend £270 million of OUR money, finding out what WE think-f***ING magic-and then what? <_<

The problem is Gash that the NHS has always been a political 'hot potato'-if you're not seen to be 'making it better' you lose votes-it's just as simple as that,and that's why successive governments have never done any
mortonjag 2008-02-08 17:31:59
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Feb 8 2008, 04:47 PM) [snapback]398577[/snapback]
I think the "Saint" bit in the school's name acts as a deterrent.

Well at least it's not St Mirren's! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-08 17:37:11
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Feb 8 2008, 05:03 PM) [snapback]398587[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif You obviously never met my wife. Going by the look on her coupen sometimes I swear I must be hung like a mouse.

I have a small penis, there you happy, I said it. The antibiotics were due to this ill fortune. I bought a penis pump which just wasn't powerful enough so I hooked it up to a stripped out hoover, reconditioned of course to provide maximum suction. Added some go faster stripes, big spoiler and some big ass speakers/sub woofer setup. Forgetting to put a protective cover back over the motor I kicked back to await my magic beans providing me a beanstalk, alas, all I ended up with was almost a completely severed golden goose which I harped about for months due to a taller than average doctor threatening to cut it off with an axe.

Gracious-so have I-though I've no idea how about sixty posters seem to know too!

Don't let it worry you Gash-yer Dick's for pissing with, and you should see all those big knobs trying to relieve themselves into a glass Irn Bru bottle!
mortonjag 2008-02-08 18:54:46
QUOTE(marxist_ton @ Feb 8 2008, 06:35 PM) [snapback]398611[/snapback]
Is there not a fans forum due where you could put your queries forward?

The annual Shoogly Show is hardly a fans' forum. I believe the 'Rally' is scheduled for this month. I also believe it will be postponed.

Barbarossa suggests that Mr Rae is made aware of our feelings-I've no reason to doubt that.

I, for one, arguably the Chairman's biggest critic, would be very grateful and indeeed give him credit for some honesty at this juncture.

I've never suggested he is an evil man-only that he's been the victim of his own driving personality, and which of us can honestly say we haven't made mistakes?

It's all very well clamouring for JM's head on a platter, and I believe he must go, for his own good as much as anything, but that will probably make little difference if changes are not made at Board level.

Mr Rae is 76/77 years of age. Surely he can relax a bit and devolve control to somebody with the ability to take us forward.
mortonjag 2008-02-08 18:57:51
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Feb 8 2008, 06:41 PM) [snapback]398613[/snapback]
Give up ya boring old pain in the arse !!!!

You never let me down darling-keep highlighting my posts-I AM grateful! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-08 19:08:24
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 8 2008, 06:05 PM) [snapback]398602[/snapback]
Scotland's population has been in decline for decades due to low birth-rates and emigration, and it has only just started to stabilise very recently. Since study after study have shown that despite what the tabloids would have us believe immigration actually boosts the economy (i.e. increases the GDP) this means that they themselves will pay for any extra burden placed on the NHS.

I don't think immigration is the cause of the NHS woes... if fact, if it wasn't for the huge numbers of doctors immigrating to Scotland the NHS would be in a much worse state than it's in today.

I wish that were true-I'm not saying that immigration does not 'boost the economy', but the NHS cake slice is not necessarily increased pro rata.

Furthermore I can tell you categorically that the influx of asylum seekers and poorly paid Eastern European workers has disproportionately increased the demand on inner city G.P.
mortonjag 2008-02-08 19:13:18
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 8 2008, 06:10 PM) [snapback]398606[/snapback]
Bottom line is, you get the Health Service you pay for. If you want low taxes, which compared almost every other Western European country the UK has, then you get s***e services. It's not rocket science.

The only way the NHS will improve is if you pay for it, either through increased direct taxation or indirect taxation through a private/public health insurance scheme.

Simple. smile.gif

Holland in France are two countries where I've got first hand experience if their health systems. Both have similar GDPs to the UK, but have infinitely superior health systems, so there's no reason why Scotland couldn't have the same.

There is a problem though.... advocating raising taxes in the UK is tantamount committing to political suicide, and God help any politician who would dare suggest that those who can afford it should be compelled to pay for private health insurance. So until that changes, the NHS will forever remain a 2nd class health system.

Again your general point is correct, but the NHS is an archetypal example of colossal wastage between funding and actual service delivery-riddled as it is with multi layer beaurocracy, which sucks clinicians and nurses away from patient care to 'administrative posts' and cossets a self propagating cancer of pen pushers.
mortonjag 2008-02-08 19:33:33
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 8 2008, 07:21 PM) [snapback]398629[/snapback]
Well of course my general premise is based on the assumption that any increase in fiscal income generated by immigrants will be proportionally distributed to the NHS.

Sorry I didn't make that clear. rolleyes.gif

The cake is sliced differently from year to year-I suspect you very well know that, and as I have stated no account is taken for the increased burden on the NHS relative to income generated for the economy by immigration policy.

One final point-would you like to say WHY we are employing so many immigrant doctors who often have little understanding of our culture. In certain specialties like surgery or anaesthetics that is probably of little import, but in person to person communication I ASSURE you the patient receives an inferior service over the piece.
mortonjag 2008-02-08 19:49:28
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Feb 8 2008, 07:44 PM) [snapback]398643[/snapback]
OK, Give it up ya boring old poofter.

How very dare you sweeetie-none of my boyfriends has ever complained that I'm boring-why don't you pop up chez moi, and I'll bore you to your hearts content! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-08 20:02:25
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 8 2008, 07:38 PM) [snapback]398641[/snapback]
I've got no idea why we have to employ so many immigrant doctors... I assume either we don't train enough or a large proportion of those we do emigrate. Either way both are indicative of under-investment in which case I refer you to my earlier points.

Re your final point.. my problem with employing immigrant doctors is somewhat different from yours, given that they're mostly recruited from the 3rd world where they are crying out for doctors.

But I'm sure in the vast majority of cases the language and cultural issues you seem so concerned about will quickly improve with exposure to patients and general experience.

We have not planned ahead-we do not train enough doctors in this country-and that includes budding kids from those very countries you mention who after five or six years of close integration with fellow students, and exposure to our culture do a fine job.

Instead we've had to resort to cheap-and that's exactly what it is-labour which increasingly comes from the new European countries. It's not that they are paid less than the going rate-it's because our home trained Medics regard the going rate for many of those posts unacceptable when the nature of the job, unsociable hours and so on are taken into the equation.

Finally it's been my experience that doctors who come here to work, and who have only the basic understanding of English reqired for admission, and no knowledge of our culture rarely 'improve quickly' Such is human nature.
mortonjag 2008-02-08 20:07:47
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Feb 8 2008, 07:59 PM) [snapback]398647[/snapback]
I think we may be stumbling on to the reason you hate dougie rae so much, Turn you down did he ?

You seem to know more about Mr Rae than I do. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-08 20:18:57
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Feb 8 2008, 08:10 PM) [snapback]398651[/snapback]
Indeed, though the school's name was St Mirin if I remember correctly.

Correct-named after the original Irish monk, who clearly has a lot to answer for! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-08 20:31:10
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 8 2008, 08:12 PM) [snapback]398654[/snapback]
So we're agreed then that lack of investment is the problem. rolleyes.gif

Re your 'finally', in every country that I've lived in my grasp of the language and its culture has improved immeasurably in a relatively short time by simply being immersed in it. I'm frankly amazed that that's not the case for immigrant doctors in Scotland.

I don't recall ever suggesting that we had adequate investment in medical education!

Your analysis of 'your grasp of language and culture' is subjective. Obviously one's ability to speak the lingo gets better, and more insight is gained into 'how things are done'-that does not necessarily mean that, as a doctor, your ability to have a meaningful and effective interaction with-say a poorly educated local peasant-would equate to that of a locally trained man.

It cuts both ways CHC-I already have a working knowledge of French, and wide experience in General Practice. I could get a job over there tomorrow-where I can assure you I'd be totally lost, and I don't imagine I could EVER relate to patients as well as a local practitioner. It's nothing to do with xenophobia or racism-just a fact of human interaction.
mortonjag 2008-02-08 20:47:38
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 8 2008, 08:42 PM) [snapback]398672[/snapback]
My own involved extensive practical research into the sharp rise in quality of online pornography and the resultant effect this has had on the top shelf of ethnically owned confectionary emporiums.
The results make for fascinating reading.

The mention of confectionery has put me off porn-well for tonight anyway-'Two fudgy wudgys, and wink.gif wink.gif wink.gif


Thank you!
mortonjag 2008-02-08 20:51:13
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Feb 8 2008, 08:13 PM) [snapback]398655[/snapback]
Really ??

I'm not the one who's made 14000+ posts about the guy, telling the world how much you dislike him without any good reason.
It's becoming clear now though.

BTW, Were you one of the guys that was in that OAP gay threesome picture posted on here a while back ?

I don't know-we have those little meetings of congress fairly often-not always with the same participants-can you give me a link?
mortonjag 2008-02-08 20:54:51
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 8 2008, 08:47 PM) [snapback]398683[/snapback]
One should join the real world wink.gif

I believe you misunderstood him Willow-those figures indicate his mental age, and the number of times he's had surgery to remove a foreign object from his sigmoid colon.
mortonjag 2008-02-08 20:58:21
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 8 2008, 08:56 PM) [snapback]398698[/snapback]
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Look it up man but don't look up it!
mortonjag 2008-02-08 21:02:41
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 8 2008, 08:51 PM) [snapback]398687[/snapback]
Why thank you.

As for you Dr Jag, two fudgy wudgys and a copy of Fiesta is a great night in. Don't pretend you're not nodding in agreement.
Puggsy: Good luck microphone man. With the amount of posts you have on here I'm sure a measly dissertation will be no problem. wink.gif

Fudgy wudgys make me sick BH-his black striped balls are great though-you can suck on them all night.
mortonjag 2008-02-08 21:07:12
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 8 2008, 08:59 PM) [snapback]398702[/snapback]
I did before I posted ohmy.gif

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Surely you weren't shocked-it's not that uncommon you know. We once had a guy in casualty with a bottle stuck up his arse. he said 'he fell on it'!!!
mortonjag 2008-02-08 21:12:17
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 8 2008, 09:08 PM) [snapback]398709[/snapback]
What did the half naked burd say that he arrived with ohmy.gif

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mortonjag 2008-02-08 21:36:09 The role of the monkey in human negotiatons.
mortonjag 2008-02-08 21:46:17
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 8 2008, 08:48 PM) [snapback]398684[/snapback]
Just incase anyone was interested but hadn't seen it there's a job going in the Tele tonight. No experience necessary just good English and knowledge of football.

That's Dougie Rae ruled out on one count and Jim McInally on another

Both ruled out on both!
mortonjag 2008-02-08 21:59:23
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Feb 8 2008, 09:51 PM) [snapback]398724[/snapback]
My old band, Basically Jazz, has broken up. I have a new band - same drummer and singer plus me on various saxes + clarinet + a new keyboard guy and a girl bass player. Looking for a name for the band which does not too heavy jazz and standards. Any suggestions?

Shoogly and the Muppettes?

Seriously you'll need to give us a few more clues-what message do you want to get over to the punters-what's their average age -do they come FOR the music,or is it just a pleasant background etc.,etc.

I always liked the 'Four skint Jews'but you have five!

HA-Nick and the Four Skint Jews.
mortonjag 2008-02-08 22:12:23
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 8 2008, 10:09 PM) [snapback]398734[/snapback]
Failed aye? wink.gif

No he's still preparing it-the deadline's next Friday,and he's hoping for a one to one with Mr Rae before then.
mortonjag 2008-02-08 22:20:19
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 8 2008, 10:17 PM) [snapback]398744[/snapback]
Or just ask him in person, the worst he can do is not answer the question, then you know he's hiding something.

His hearing aid.
mortonjag 2008-02-08 22:23:39 Banana Hand.
mortonjag 2008-02-08 22:27:24 Quintessence
mortonjag 2008-02-08 22:33:59 Dick C Land.

Jeely Piece Morton
mortonjag 2008-02-08 22:51:02
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 8 2008, 10:33 PM) [snapback]398755[/snapback]
There you go again digging me up for my notorious non-specificity. rolleyes.gif

In my earlier references to the general underfunding of the NHS I should have made it clear that that included the training of future doctors and nursing staff.

Apologies for the oversight.

Ignorance!!!

Doctors are NOT trained by the NHS. The various medical faculties of our Universities are funded entirely separately.
mortonjag 2008-02-08 23:07:05
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 8 2008, 11:00 PM) [snapback]398762[/snapback]
And I didn't say they were. rolleyes.gif

I meant that the general underfunding of the Health System included the training of doctors and nurses. I accept your point however that they come from separate budgets.

As I said in my previous posting, apologies for my non specificity.

The Universities are totally independent of any 'Health System'!!!

You are just f*cking wrong!

Further education budgeting is global and not targeted at any faculty.

Furthermore, a medical degree obliges NOBODY to work within the NHS, or for that matter, to even practice medicine in Thailand or Timbucktoo, or EVER.

Most nurses are trained within the NHS.

Degree course nurses are not.
mortonjag 2008-02-09 07:27:32
QUOTE(marx @ Feb 9 2008, 01:30 AM) [snapback]398790[/snapback]
The Beatles

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mortonjag 2008-02-09 07:28:43 Fundamentally jazz!

Discombobulation

DDFART
mortonjag 2008-02-09 07:45:37
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 9 2008, 06:14 AM) [snapback]398805[/snapback]
we seemed to have an understanding going up until now, why would you break it for something like this.

don't refer to my posts again and keep away from me in general.

How will I recognise you? ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-09 07:47:57
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 9 2008, 06:19 AM) [snapback]398806[/snapback]
jesus h. christ.

....hates Marmite? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-09 07:50:50
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Feb 9 2008, 12:31 AM) [snapback]398785[/snapback]
Can't remember the title exactly but mine was something to do with the Coen brothers films and theology. I had glandular fever when I wrote it last year, I enjoyed it when I wasn't falling asleep with exhaustion laugh.gif sad.gif

I've got another to write this summer, I'm actually quite looking forward to writing it. Not that I know what I'll be writing about yet, I've got 5 essays to get out the way first.

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Most people find infectious mononucleosis unpleasant.

Mind you dissertations DO knock the stuffing out of one!
mortonjag 2008-02-09 07:57:08
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 9 2008, 12:51 AM) [snapback]398786[/snapback]
If you wanted to teach a bunch of impressionable youngsters how to play cricket and Ian Botham was offering his services, you'd probably give him the job.*

A guy who won the UEFA Cup with Ipswich Town and was runner-up in the old Division One two seasons on the trot (1981 & 1982, no mean feat for a relatvely small club); captained England to a World Cup Semi-Final as well as captaining Rangers to three league titles in four seasons after such a barren spell for the Ibrox club is a guy that has achieved something in the game.

As a manager, his appointments at both Coventry and Sunderland were both premature to say the least. He was younger than David Beckham or Robbie Fowler is today when he took the Coventry job amidst the euphoria of World Cup 1990 success, and the Sunderland job back in the early 1990s was a poisoned chalice, he got the job for the same wrong reasons that got him the Coventry job and was doomed to failure from the start.
We all know the story of him taking over Motherwell when the obscene Johnny Boyle/Nevin/Davies/Black roadshow pissed away a fortune leaving them potless and in administration, he regrouped a squad of young players and got them to very respectable positions in the SPL, and left the club in a more sound financial state having sold players which he'd nurtured like McFadden and Pearson, as well as getting them to a league cup final en route. i dont know too much about his achievements (or lack of them) at Sydney FC or Brentford, therefore I cant really comment on them.
He is respected throughout the game by players, managers, supporters and the media alike by hunners of folk that know the game better than myself or any stattos out there who'd like to pick flaws in his achievements, but it is safe to say that for a club of our level, which in the great scheme of things is barely on a par with a Blue Square Premier League outfit, when you have a vacancy and a guy of his standing is available and within your means, then he is a decent shout. Maybe not everyones preferred choice, but a decent shout nontheless.
*edit to add: Not the best analogy i suppose, but you know what i mean. smile.gif



Haud on mate-yer losin thae marbles-the guys f*ckin' ENGLISH FFS

'Oh flower of Scotland.... ph34r.gif wacko.gif wacko.gif wacko.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-09 08:08:15
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 8 2008, 11:29 PM) [snapback]398772[/snapback]
every single morton fan would have took Ryan Mcguffie in a hearbeat when the transfer window opened, he has to come good.....surely.

It's a mystery-the guy's record speaks for itself-he's been playing against SPL sides and it seems he wanted to come to us.I've been bitterly disappointed with him-it's just the Jamie Stevenson scenario being repeated, and I DON'T believe either of those guys have deliberately been shirking.

Somebody else commented that Ryan's looked 'lost' and I agree-surely it's GOT to be down to the coaching staff.

Today we face what may well be a watershed against Clyde I know John Brown will have his guys fired up-I can almost hear his words-'Stop them playing and hit them on the break'-not exactly rocket science!

Meanwhile JM will be frantically reading his Horoscope and praying that Shoogly will pick the side again today.
mortonjag 2008-02-09 08:17:38 Here's an interesting point to debate gentlemen.

Every time we have a long running thread, or a poll which criticises the Chairman or the Manager, the usual eejits claim that our forum is not representative of the opinion of Morton fans in general.

Every time we have a 'crunch' game like today's-guys like yourselves correctly point out that we should be getting behind the lads from the start-and the rest of the forum agrees.

Does it happen?

Does it F*CK! mad.gif

If ever proof was needed that greenockmorton.org IS the home of the true Morton fans, I reckon that's it.
mortonjag 2008-02-09 08:20:50
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Feb 9 2008, 07:54 AM) [snapback]398816[/snapback]
we will win today..............................3-0 I reckon, very low crowd though

Aye right-but you also reckon Mr Somers is a PYUF unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-09 08:44:22
QUOTE(lemmington @ Feb 9 2008, 08:33 AM) [snapback]398824[/snapback]
greenockmorton.org is the only HOME for mortonjag

How right you are, and don't believe a word I've written before. If you are at Cappielow today, look across to the car park and you may just spot a ramshackle shed in the faraway corner-and BTW it's f*ckin' freezin' in here. All I posses is a monkey, and an old laptop-how are the mighty fallen. sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-09 09:06:19
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Feb 9 2008, 08:21 AM) [snapback]398823[/snapback]
I told her not to eat cheese before bedtime!!! smile.gif

Hmm, Boozehound suspiciously quiet. I reckon he's got the jackpot and f***ed off to Thailand to bum ladyboys.

unsure.gif

Is Boozie a pufe? ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-09 09:14:17 by Roger Graham



MORTON boss Jim McInally will make changes in his side for tomorrow��‚��„�s key First Division match against Clyde at Cappielow.

And the Greenock manager said: ��‚��“To win would be brilliant. We��‚��„�ve had too many hard luck stories. We have to start scoring goals and play better final balls.��‚��

One of the changes will involve moving Ryan McGuffie into a defence which has been leaking goals this season. The Ton boss said: ��‚��“We are putting him back, especially for this game. He��‚��„�s played there a lot for Gretna.��‚��

One of the motivating factors in the player coming to Cappielow was that he was assured he would be playing in centre midfield, but the Morton manager explained: ��‚��“It��‚��„�s a stop-gap measure, and the player is professional enough to accept it.��‚��

Definitely in the team will be Barry Smith, who had to leave the field last week after a knee ballooned up. ��‚��“He has responded well to treatment,��‚�� said McInally.

The Cappielow boss, only too well aware of the importance of the match, continued: Allan Jenkins will make his debut in the centre of midfield.

It sometimes takes three or four weeks for new players to gel with the rest, so a win of any kind tomorrow would be great, and would put us back in the pack in the middle of the league.��‚��

There was respect, though, for Clyde, two points adrift of Morton in second bottom spot. ��‚��“They��‚��„�ve been written off many times over the last couple of seasons but have shown resilience. They are hard to beat, and that��‚��„�s what we��‚��„�ve got to be.

��‚��“It��‚��„�s consistency of performance and results we need.

��‚��“I��‚��„�ve said to the players this week that with us it seems to be either black or white. We need a grey area. We need to learn to grind out results.��‚��

Three points tomorrow would be the perfect starting point.




We need a f*ckin'purple patch more like, and what's this crap about 'grinding out results', Mr McInally-where have we heard that before-wake up man-it's no longer the second division where your stubborn 'grinding' gave us some of the least entertaining football for years.

Did we 'grind out' the victory at Palmerston recently-no-we had our tails up,played attractive football, and scored three goals.

Is that not what football's supposed to be about-is that not WHAT THE FANS PAY TO SEE? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-09 09:33:15
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Feb 9 2008, 09:20 AM) [snapback]398834[/snapback]
Hi Boys some we **** slashed my tiers in the east end last night anyone know anywhere that do home calls.

Need 6 tiers between 3 cars

McOnickys cant do it till Monday

Pedro-e-tyres have a mobile service based in Paisley-I can't find one in Inverclyde-if you go on line you can check availability and when they can do it for you, though they might not be willing to come that far.
mortonjag 2008-02-09 09:43:14
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 9 2008, 09:23 AM) [snapback]398835[/snapback]
Newton rides again. Did you type that in all by yourself?

Edit to add:
http://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/article...=2&id=19651

No you cheeky c*nt-the monkey did, and I think it's a bloody good effort for a wee monkey.

Anyhow, what's so clever about 'clickies'?

You still have to use the link and then come back to our forum.

The monkey says you're a dick! laugh.gif

mortonjag 2008-02-09 09:44:52
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Feb 9 2008, 09:42 AM) [snapback]398841[/snapback]
It's been done.

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED
mortonjag 2008-02-09 10:02:45
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 9 2008, 09:55 AM) [snapback]398850[/snapback]
But aspiring to be a Trumpet tongue.gif

Aye Willow-I've heard about this guy Dick Trumpet-apparently he's a poosy who thinks the streets of London are paved with gold.
mortonjag 2008-02-09 10:09:18
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Feb 9 2008, 09:59 AM) [snapback]398852[/snapback]
Andy Goram as goalkeeping coach

Herald story

Altogether now - "There's only two..."

You don't seem very impressed my asinine friend. You may not rate Goram, or Brown, or Clyde, but it at least looks as though their manager is being allowed to do SOMETHING to sort out the mess they're in. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-09 10:12:17
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Feb 9 2008, 10:09 AM) [snapback]398860[/snapback]
motorcare have it.

the police are hopeless reported it and got an inceden number after complning we got a direct line to the port police station. (that thay gave us the last time)

we are playing tetres withe tierys all day.

8 cars at lesst done last nite

Terrible what some guys will do when they're desperate for a slash!
mortonjag 2008-02-09 10:13:39 Who says he's guilty?
mortonjag 2008-02-09 10:27:40
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 9 2008, 10:21 AM) [snapback]398878[/snapback]
You mean they're not tongue.gif

Most are not!
mortonjag 2008-02-09 10:32:44
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Feb 9 2008, 10:22 AM) [snapback]398879[/snapback]
Willowman says it was Jim McInally wink.gif

Aye he said he'd be going for bust this weekend.
mortonjag 2008-02-09 10:35:30 organic sweetcorn
mortonjag 2008-02-09 10:39:13
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Feb 9 2008, 10:21 AM) [snapback]398877[/snapback]
sure, i wasn't being cheeky!

Sorry oh mighty Donkey...it's just, you're usually good for exclusives!!! smile.gif

Possibly gets them straight from the horse's mouth. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-09 10:57:22
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 9 2008, 10:52 AM) [snapback]398892[/snapback]
I never said they weren't. laugh.gif

My word you're an argumentative auld bugger right enough. wink.gif

I'll try and keep this simple....... when I referred to underfunding of health in the UK I meant that as the being in the provision of health in general, including the NHS and in the training of doctors which, as you have pointed out, is performed outside the NHS by universtities.

I thought I'd made that clear in the last two posts. Hope that's cleared up that little confusion once and for all. rolleyes.gif

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You did a hell of a lot of wriggling and squirming before you told me what 'you meant'.

It's hardly an earth shattering revelation that the provision of every public service in this great land of ours is underfunded.

After all-we're skint!
mortonjag 2008-02-09 11:04:39 laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
This stuff always amuses me. I met a girl on a course once and she asked where I lived. At that time our house was in the leafy Mearns, so I replied 'in the South Side'.

'Oh', she remarked-'that's a coincidence-so do I'.

'Really', I rejoined, 'whereabouts exactly'?

She looked a wee bit uncomfortable, but burst into a wicked grin as she replied 'Govan'!

She was, of course, correct.
mortonjag 2008-02-09 11:21:00
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 9 2008, 11:01 AM) [snapback]398897[/snapback]
There is more than enough wealth in the UK to provide a world class health service.

It's just that the people don't want to pay for it.

Perhaps you'll explain what 'YOU MEAN'.

I'd be happy with a proper two tier service-a private sector totally separate from the NHS where your wealthy buggers could get first class treatment, and a state funded service for the poor c*nts who haven't got the dough.

That's life!
mortonjag 2008-02-09 11:24:16
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 9 2008, 11:07 AM) [snapback]398899[/snapback]
Crookfur is not 'leafy Mearns', its a scheme of roughcast Lawrence boxes. rolleyes.gif

Stop showing off. wink.gif

10 Easdale place Ryelands my friend-cost me an arm and a leg in 1990 and now worth well over half a million. Still just a Wimpey box mind you!
mortonjag 2008-02-09 11:26:00
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 9 2008, 11:12 AM) [snapback]398902[/snapback]
Surely if this is the case it's a clear sign that he can't be 'rehabilitated', so he should just be exterminated?

Is this man guilty?
mortonjag 2008-02-09 12:16:12
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 9 2008, 11:39 AM) [snapback]398919[/snapback]
That's not the system I was meaning.

In Holland for example everyone gets the same (excellent) level of health care irrespective of their income.

Up to a certain income you subscribe to the public 'ziekenfonds' which is a subsidised fund where the costs for the individual and his or her family is relatively modest. The unemployed, elderly and those who are for whatever reason unable to work are also covered automatically by 'ziekenfonds'.

Above that income you are however compelled to take out private health insurance which although much more expensive than the 'ziekenfonds' is subsidised by the employer. It's still quite expensive though - from memory I think I was paying about €300 per month for the whole family before I left there in 2002. I didn't grudge a cent of that though, because I new that if any of us needed it we would have one of the best healthcare systems in the world at our disposal. You can't put a price on life and peace of mind.

Private insurance does not give you preferential treatment so it's not the 'two-tier' public-private system you're used to in the UK. The only extra benefits that private insurance may entitle you to are things like a private room in Hospital if you choose to pay more for that, but the level of health care is universal and available to all.

That's the kind of system I was meaning.

A means tested NHS in other words-fine by me-we're agreed on something!
mortonjag 2008-02-09 12:17:39
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 9 2008, 11:28 AM) [snapback]398913[/snapback]
Stop showing off. tongue.gif

Wood eye?
mortonjag 2008-02-09 12:24:49
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Feb 9 2008, 11:56 AM) [snapback]398927[/snapback]
I pretty much agree with this. If we needed defenders (which most of us think we do) then why did we not sign one in the window? If Martin Canning is still a free agent we should sign him till the end of the season to see how he holds up injury wise. If he's any good he can get signed up longer term in the summer.

I just think its crass to sign someone as a midfielder and within a month start using him as a defender
.

...but nothing new-a further demonstration that JM appears rather dim.
mortonjag 2008-02-09 13:06:48
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Feb 9 2008, 12:56 PM) [snapback]398969[/snapback]
Got this on a text a few days ago.

Paddy wakes up in hospital a few days after a car accident
doctor says i've some good news & some bad news for you paddy, the bad news is we've had to give you 10 pints of african blood & 5 pints of polish blood during your transfusion.

f***in hell says paddy, what's the good news ?
Well says the doctor, your dick's 3 inches longer & your now top of the housing list.

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mortonjag 2008-02-09 13:10:23 Money!

I'd just buy Morton, become the new Shoogly, and leave the forum to find its successor to mortonjag!
mortonjag 2008-02-09 13:17:43
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 9 2008, 10:52 AM) [snapback]398891[/snapback]
It's you that's losing his marbles he was born on 28th December 1958 in SINGAPORE !!!
Yep that's right slanty eyed country. He had plastic surgery to correct his tongue.gif

So why is he called Butcher and not Wan Hung Lo?
mortonjag 2008-02-09 13:21:58
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Feb 9 2008, 12:52 PM) [snapback]398965[/snapback]
The goal floodgates will be opened.

Brown and Goram will be too busy singing the sash and giving each other funny handshakes to notice as Brian Wake swiftly scores 10 minutes in with a header, a spoonsy rocket before halftime and RUssell comes on to get a much needed confidence boosting poachers effort.

3 nil Morton.....

...but JM is too busy counting bloody beads and speaking to some female to notice, and they score four in the last five minutes! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-09 18:27:23 I thught Wake was pretty useless-this is the man JM claimed he'd 'wanted for a while'. Leafy should have come on at half time.

I also can't understand why Harding wasn't at least on the bench-was he injured? Clyde were dire and still got at least two free headers which they squandered.

We have NEVER learned to kill a game off-even with Jenkins who seemed to fade a bit but was a huge influence,we couldn't get the impetus to finish them off. JM was girning his face off at Spoonsy in the last ten minutes-why did he not sub him with the fresh legs of Brian Graham?

I felt a bit sorry for the players today-we were always on top, but we're going nowhere with McInally. The only reason Rae won't sack him is to avoid paying compensation,and for that reason he'll probably still be here next week. sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-09 18:37:56
QUOTE(Capuan @ Feb 9 2008, 06:16 PM) [snapback]399241[/snapback]
Was speaking to a season ticket holder at Hamilton last week and he thanked profusely for taking Brian Wake off them. In his opinion Wake was the worst player in their side who can't pass, can't header, can't control the ball and certainly can't score.

This fiasco of replacing Templeman with Wake is an absolute joke. Another shocker from McInally.

Couldn't agree more-Rae pulled in the purse strings, so they happily let Sanny go,and brought in this Hamilton reject whom JM claimed he's 'wanted for a while'. Maybe now those who were never off Sanny's back will realise the power of work he did do,and I've always believed he and Leafy could have formed a partnership.
mortonjag 2008-02-09 21:40:44
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Feb 9 2008, 06:12 PM) [snapback]399230[/snapback]
I actually thought Wake has brought a bit to the team imo mate, his first touch and control seem better than what Sannys and Russells are. He's not scared to get in amongst it and pushes his way about a bit. He showed plenty of dig for the most part then tired before he went off. I think he'll do ok.

That is about the cruellest piece of crap I've heard all season. Wake doesn't appear to have a f*cking first touch- Brian Graham was TWICE as effective as him at Palmerston and he didn't even get a start.

It's rare for me to slate individual players-I'm not really angry at the boy himself just the clowns who panic bought him and are trying to justify their crass stupidity.
mortonjag 2008-02-09 21:53:37
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Feb 9 2008, 08:16 PM) [snapback]399505[/snapback]
The Inverclydenow site states that the Chairman and the Manager will be meeting again on Monday. The Chairman and perhaps the manager, I don't know cos I am not there either, are both at the annual Golden Casket soiree in the Tontine Hotel tonight - seems unlikely that anything was decided this afternoon.

After a run of dismal results like we have had there will always be a clamouring for the managers head. Speculation in the media or on here will not affect the mind of the man who makes the decisions, namely DDF.

It should all be made clear on Monday.

I doubt if a Donkey sized dose of antipsychotics could cure 'the man who makes the decisions', and remember, tail bearer, HE is ultimately responsible for our current plight.
mortonjag 2008-02-09 22:01:26
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Feb 9 2008, 07:37 PM) [snapback]399401[/snapback]
I would actually like to see that - I ike Jim Duffy . A True Morton Great !

Rat deserts sinking ship.

You are a despicable little turd Gillan. For an eternity you've been rubbishing JM critics-accusing them of 'vendettas' and reassuring us all that Macca just needed time.

Where's your optimism and positivity now you little scumbag?
mortonjag 2008-02-09 22:15:18
QUOTE(grnklad2006ton @ Feb 9 2008, 06:03 PM) [snapback]399189[/snapback]
I agree mate and to tell you the truth i think everyone at cappielow today will agree with you. However no matter how much we want jim out the door on this site and how we all wish he would just piss aff, theres not a soul on here who can do anything about it. Its up to Mr Rae and i can't see him doing anything about it im sad to say, he s done nothing up till this point so whats gonna change now, for me JM's time was up weeks ago. Got a feeling Rae will leave it too late to kick his ass out the door, infact maybe when we are in division 2 next year he will realise he should have sacked jim. Hope your reading this site Rae ya toffie making poofter mad.gif mad.gif .

ohmy.gif

Come, come, he may be an elderly fudge packer, but that's just naughty. Do you have a personal vendetta against the clubs most ardent and passionate fan?

Don't forget this is all JM's fault-nothing to do with the man who can walk from Fort Matilda to Kilkreggan as the crow flies! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-09 22:19:15 Happy Harry hits the Huff Button! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-09 22:34:28
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Feb 9 2008, 06:27 PM) [snapback]399275[/snapback]
i voted no, the reason is that this is just a daft wee poll on an internet forum, what are you trying to achieve ? do you think dougie is going to sack mcinally with the reason of "well jim i'm going to have to let you go because i seen this poll on the internet from people with made up names and they all said you should go" if you believe that then you are deluded. I have said on a few occasions that to get him to take notice direct action must be taken, whether it be a boycott of games, late entry to games, chanting from the terraces right through to sending dougie an e-mail with your real name on it, letting him know how you feel. If i'm wrong and he does get sacked because of this poll then i shall come back and eat this post. Happy polling kids tongue.gif

Did he not obey the instructions in your e-mail Daddy? wacko.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-09 22:55:44 I know-it's going to cost a lot of money-maybe you could sneak in in the wee small hours and raid that Golden Casket, and kid on there was a burglary.

There again you could open that big wooden box under the bed when the Mrs is giving it big ZZZ's, and stop your fellow shareholders from going loopy.

Either way your puppet is now stringing you along and it's past time for him to go.

Don't fret about what others think-it's your club, and you can do exactly what you please.

The fans will be eternally grateful for everything you did and continue to do at immense personal expense all because you love yourself them so much.

Persevere with Jim the Dim and save the pennies if you must.

There again you could always wait and sack him after next Saturday's defeat-perhaps that would be kinder when he'll be closer to his friends and family.

Sweet dreams.
mortonjag 2008-02-09 23:03:17
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Feb 9 2008, 10:35 PM) [snapback]399709[/snapback]
BTT
What say you, mortonjag?

The monkey came up with a bright idea-he reckons a £500 per man win bonus and empty dugout till May would guarantee a top five spot. Somehow he's worked out that that would cost half the price of a Gowsa!
mortonjag 2008-02-09 23:15:01
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Feb 9 2008, 06:40 PM) [snapback]399298[/snapback]
This is very annoying. Just because Wake is poor that does not mean that Sanny is suddenly a better player than he was when he left.

I think it was definately the correct decision to let him go as he just couldn't cut it in this division, as he has found out himself on several occasions.

Wake isn't the ideal replacement but Sanny was by no means our savior for this predicament.

That is extremely unfair-week after week Templeman was left up front as target man, and put in a power of work, displaying close control and holding up ability light years ahead of Wake's. The fact is that he was never used to advantage because of JM's bizarre tactics and team selections.

In my opinion, only a fool can possibly think he was not at least worthy of a place in the squad. He was released to save cash-plain and simple.
mortonjag 2008-02-09 23:20:17
QUOTE(kingtiffin @ Feb 9 2008, 10:48 PM) [snapback]399711[/snapback]
stevenson does not want to be here and since he quit running the under 17s he has been black ball by
the general or what ever he is mr everything .

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If he 'doesn't want to be here, would you care to explain why?
mortonjag 2008-02-09 23:22:59 Why is Rae in a poll for a NEW manager? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-10 00:02:03
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 9 2008, 10:10 PM) [snapback]399678[/snapback]
Quote:

"Being brutally honest, we took too long to realise we needed a few more experienced players..."

Than is an unforgivable statement, given that they should have known the capibilities of the team after the past three seasons of managing them
.

Messing around with guys like f***ing Bangle McClung was Jim McInallys way of begging for a pay-off, the tragic thing is that it has taken so long for it to happen and it has been another wasted season for Morton.

Is is sickening, it really is.

If Mr Rae and those two clowns of his had listened to many of the posters on this 'rag' two and more years ago, they'd have heard us PLEADING time, after time, after time, to bring in two or three 'old heads'.

'Don't you think those boys deserve the chance to take us forward' Rae asked-not asking but telling.

Now Clark admits it wasn't just the old dodder's fault-he's been 'brutally honest' about himself and his buffoon buddy and in so doing has damned them.

Does he really mean what he says-I'm honestly gobsmacked-they COULDN'T SEE IT!!!!!

If ever we needed an indictment of a pair of failed wannabe football managers, we now have it in black and white.
mortonjag 2008-02-10 00:12:36
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 10 2008, 12:03 AM) [snapback]399760[/snapback]
I've never been so proud, as to be put on ignore by a Gillan. biggrin.gif

Go me!

Not just A Gillan, but super slimy snake Gillan of the forked brown tongue.

One prong has secretly slithered out of JM's arse with a sickening slurp, and will no doubt join its fellow half way up Rae's sigmoid colon quicker than a sh*t hits the water..
mortonjag 2008-02-10 00:16:36
QUOTE(dmc @ Feb 10 2008, 12:13 AM) [snapback]399766[/snapback]
You two are like a f***ing double act!!
Quit sucking each other off, we know what has to be done and we don't need you two twats telling us constantly!!!



Excellent your majesty-when will you be performing the deed?
mortonjag 2008-02-10 00:19:52
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Feb 10 2008, 12:18 AM) [snapback]399771[/snapback]
You mean - someone was doing tactics today!?

Aye JM was distracting Shoogly while Clark changed the dates on the P45s.
mortonjag 2008-02-10 00:21:15
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Dec 28 2007, 11:19 AM) [snapback]371760[/snapback]
But we are only 4 points away from 3rd, it's a tight league as i would have expected it to be so im not surprised.

Willowman where did you expect us to be at this point in the season? Flying high in 4th place miles away from the play off's bare in mind we have just been promoted.

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mortonjag 2008-02-10 00:23:03
QUOTE(dmc @ Feb 10 2008, 12:20 AM) [snapback]399773[/snapback]
And don't you f***ing forget it !! tongue.gif

Wood eye? huh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-10 00:25:53
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 9 2008, 05:59 PM) [snapback]399184[/snapback]
I thought Jim was quite good today... if memory serves he could have done more for the first goal, but then again he maybe shouldn't have been played in that position in any case.

I thought Smith was dreadful. I think he flatters to deceive - to his credit he gets in the right place at the right time for some balls, but for a so-called veteran he has very little composure. Neither he nor Greacen is willing to put in a tackle until it's far too late, either.

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Guess it's all about opinions Nach0-I still don't think he's match fit, but he's easily the most composed defender in the whole squad.
mortonjag 2008-02-10 00:28:53
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 9 2008, 06:41 PM) [snapback]399299[/snapback]
The last player Morton signed to immediately appoint as captain was Stuart McCluskey.

I think the club won't do that again, and will instead wait until the end of the season.

Disagree-Jenkins was out there running things today in his first match. McCluskey was a lazy big shyster.
mortonjag 2008-02-10 00:32:26
QUOTE(dmc @ Feb 10 2008, 12:29 AM) [snapback]399783[/snapback]
Which one?? unsure.gif

Manky's been mirror gazing again.
mortonjag 2008-02-10 00:36:03
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 10 2008, 12:29 AM) [snapback]399782[/snapback]
I think I know what it is that grates me about MortonJag. It's not that he's constantly on about Dougie Rae but instead of just mentioning it one of the other threads he feels the need to create his big thread to get everyone attention complete with witty comic asides.

unsure.gif

I haven't read a comic in years.
mortonjag 2008-02-10 00:39:18 Today's fall guy is McGurn!



NEXT! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-10 00:43:38
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 10 2008, 12:34 AM) [snapback]399792[/snapback]
sorry 14 000 and the rest. no doubt the original guess will be accurate before the night is out.

p***k.

Voyeur and narcissist, or just the full fish supper on your shoulders son?

Time to grow up. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-10 00:45:43
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Feb 10 2008, 12:33 AM) [snapback]399789[/snapback]
People make their own minds up at their own speed. No reason to have a pop at Scott for seeing the light.

I'd never 'have a pop at someone' just because he was a myopic fool, but myopic fools who have pops at the perfectly sighted deserve both barrels.
mortonjag 2008-02-10 07:16:14
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 10 2008, 12:50 AM) [snapback]399805[/snapback]
f*** off, you tedious, arrogant, arrogant f***.


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Simultaneously bored and agitated-yet another manky conundrum from another wannabe medic! dry.gif

Life would be a little bowl of cherries chez le Chien Manquee if all posters hailed the supremacy of his wisdom and penetrative wit.

....talking of which, I wonder if his neighbours have been shagging again?
mortonjag 2008-02-10 07:28:07
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 10 2008, 12:58 AM) [snapback]399808[/snapback]
I can see where you are going with this , young Scott hs shown a huge amount of faith in a guy who hs delivered little , however the end of the day as much as I like reading your rebukes against uppity youffs we are all still well in the smelly stuff .

There are far bigger idiots who have alot more power than SG who will decide the next move , if any at all should be taken . It is getting others to realise that you get poor employees because higher up the chain there are problems .

Whoever comes in will have to be their own man which won't sit well with Shoogily .

Very true, and in fairness to young Gillan, I think he was at least sincerely upset because he DID have faith, but that is not an excuse for repeatedly abusing somebody who knew better.

If you've a spare five minutes this morning and check every post I've ever made, you'll find that I NEVER personally attack another poster just for his opinions.

Let's be brutally honest though Chris-this is an internet message board-not a convention of cultured gentlefolk-and if others see fit to unfairly attack the monkey, he can hardly be blamed for going ape at times.
mortonjag 2008-02-10 07:40:51
QUOTE(El Duderino @ Feb 9 2008, 08:25 PM) [snapback]399523[/snapback]
I don't think there were any "bad" performances.

Graecen had a few hairy moments but did his duties when called on...

I just feel somethings wrong when you play 5 midfielders and struggle to string 3 passes together... blink.gif

QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Feb 9 2008, 08:17 PM) *
Although he didn't deserve it, being a total f*cking bear doesn't exclude him from criticism. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-10 07:52:24
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 10 2008, 05:23 AM) [snapback]399877[/snapback]
It was clearly staged to look like there was passion in the ranks. If it was real then McGurn would have lamped Millar into next week.

Besides, as Manky said, Millar is no great shakes. Being on a calendar, hitting form for a few games and having the worlds greatest hairstylist does not make you a good player

I like Pepperamis, especially the flaming hot ones. They make yer arse sting the next day right enough.

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They burn my mouth.
mortonjag 2008-02-10 07:55:47
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Feb 10 2008, 02:26 AM) [snapback]399853[/snapback]
Garbage! Wake has started two games, after half a dozen games and he's still not producing anything lets hang him out to dry then. We've gave Sanny a run, done nothing, Russells had his shot, produced nothing, Peter produced more goals at right back than Sanny and Russell did collectively. Russells had more than enough time to prove himself this season, he runs about and moans all the time, goes to ground to easily and any opportunity he gets to finish is more than likely to fail to convert it. Other than running about like a busy fool what does he bring?

You need a striker thats willing to get in amongst defenders and mix it up a bit, thats what other teams have done to us this season. Look at the mess Harding got into at the QOS cup game, they leaned on him and he made the mistake that led to their first goal.

What tempo? We canny keep a ball longer than 2 or 3 passes to build up any tempo!

We're 2nd bottom of the league with the 2nd best discipline record??? What does that show you? No guts and no fight! Guys like Bobby Thompson and Roddy Hutchinson mixed it up and it didnt do us any harm, give the guy another few games and if he's still not bringing anything new to the table then roast him.

Correct and the club which had the wisdom to release Khali is top! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-10 08:00:49
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 10 2008, 05:26 AM) [snapback]399878[/snapback]
not sure but all i know is that since smith was signed (not as a replacement in the defense but to add to it) we've dropped our other three defenders. i still cant get my head around that if JM knew they werent good enough then why didnt he bring in another defender in the transfer window?.

Walker's back in training.
mortonjag 2008-02-10 08:04:38
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 10 2008, 05:33 AM) [snapback]399884[/snapback]
Doc, gonna chuck it with the Leafy thing. It's s***e.

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Boozie-most of my posts are s***e, but I do like LEAFY

Once the new manager comes LEAFY will start knocking in the goals and nobody will even bat an eyelid if I call him a ridiculous name like ostrich or beany.
mortonjag 2008-02-10 08:14:11
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 10 2008, 01:31 AM) [snapback]399835[/snapback]
Ahem, Where were you outside Forthbank?

If you remember, at that time JM had almost 80% of the fans behind him, and Chrissiboi, myself and a few others others were taking abuse right left and centre for daring to call the manager in question.

Suddenly-almost overnight-there was an about turn, and the manager's popularity plummeted, but it only lasted briefly, and by the end of the season it was pats on the back all round and Rae being tossed in the air at Kirkcaldy after we blew that match.

There is only a small number who appear to have seen right through Rae and JM from early on.
mortonjag 2008-02-10 08:37:17
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Feb 9 2008, 01:52 PM) [snapback]399004[/snapback]
Well put....I have lived in the West End for 22 years and had to pay through the nose for it.I came from Larkfield, Devon Road and it was a great place to grow up. I just wanted to live in a nice safe and central area and as I said before, had to pay to do so as I didn't want to live in a Housing scheme, now they are building one around us and we have had no say in the matter. Suddenly it has become a very unsafe place to live. Something changed unsure.gif

It's not exactly new LL.

When I was six my parents who were pretty skint (with four weans to feed and clothe on a teacher's salary) moved from the rented top flat room and kitchen in the Port to a brand new semi detached Council house in Bardrainney.

They were 'over the moon'-kitchen, lounge, three bedrooms and a bathroom, with a garden back and front-it seemed like paradise when compared to those dingy tenements down opposite Lithgows.

What they did not know was that the Cooncil had adopted a deliberate policy for this scheme-a policy of mixing respectable families with those who had a record of anti social behaviour. So it was that we ended up stuck between the Lynches who were degenerate if not deliberately offensive tinkers, and the McPhees who were a shower of psychopaths.

My folks were devastated- they stayed for under two years till they scraped together enough to put down a deposit on a flat in Kilmacolm.

I'm sure you feel a sense of powerlessness-almost of being raped-when the area you love is devalued by outside forces. The only answer seems to be to buy your own country mansion complete with armed guards and roaming rotweilers.
mortonjag 2008-02-10 08:46:14
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Feb 9 2008, 01:11 PM) [snapback]398986[/snapback]
You'd probably still come on here ranting at yourself, you mad old cnt! smile.gif

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Truth is Donga I'm quite happy with what I've got and I don't do lotteries. I guess if I did have that kind of money I WOULD buy the Ton, but no way would I try to run it myself, and you're right, I'd probably still post on here!

Do you think everybody would love me as much as Shoogly? wub.gif sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-10 09:07:53
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 10 2008, 09:03 AM) [snapback]399898[/snapback]
Due to this vacancy arising Jim McInally has now left Scapa to join The Tele rolleyes.gif

His first two page illustrated spread is to be entitled.

Why Rae must go!
mortonjag 2008-02-10 09:51:10
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Feb 10 2008, 09:24 AM) [snapback]399901[/snapback]
I think OFFSIDE would be a more appropriate name for Russell.

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That's so true but so cruel-his team mates also have to learn when to release the ball!
mortonjag 2008-02-10 09:58:22
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Feb 10 2008, 09:32 AM) [snapback]399902[/snapback]
They have tried that over the last 50 years and it has been proven time and time again, they drag the areas down.

My mum(84) has lived in town centre for 10 years, bought her flat had wonderful neighbours then people started selling their flats to Buy to Let. It has turned into a slum in just 2 years. It is sad to watch.

Indeed, I've witnessed two or three areas in Glasgow devastated over a relatively short space of time. When scum move in the decent folks eventually move out, if and when they can. There's something inherently unfair in that.
mortonjag 2008-02-10 12:44:32
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Feb 10 2008, 10:33 AM) [snapback]399943[/snapback]
Stop trying to remake yourself into a horny handed son of toil you bourgeois rentier you. I'm looking out of my window into crookfur. It may not have been arboreal when you were there, it certainly is now.

My neighbour among those stripling trees was none other than 'Bomber' Brown. Saw him yesterday for the first time in about fifteen years, and was saddened by the deforestation!
mortonjag 2008-02-10 12:50:58
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Feb 10 2008, 10:15 AM) [snapback]399920[/snapback]
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I knew the moronjag was like that but chrissiboi as well ? unsure.gif laugh.gif

I have asked you repeatedly not to mention that liaison. sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-10 12:55:44
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Feb 10 2008, 10:09 AM) [snapback]399916[/snapback]
You really are a tosser aren't you ?

If & when a new manager comes in i'm gonna start a thread saying how crap he is & how he'll f*** it up (cos he will eventually), 99% of managers do.

You're not a genious for pointing this out, so get your head out your arse ya senile out fool.

Whatever made you think I claimed to be a genius for stating the obvious?
mortonjag 2008-02-10 12:57:32
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 10 2008, 10:14 AM) [snapback]399919[/snapback]
blah blah blah.

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mortonjag 2008-02-10 12:58:58
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Feb 10 2008, 10:18 AM) [snapback]399925[/snapback]
that was harsh mj. if you don't personally attack someone just for their opinion then what was that about

Revenge! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-10 12:59:58
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Feb 10 2008, 10:36 AM) [snapback]399948[/snapback]
MJ runs by his own rules, don't you know? rolleyes.gif dry.gif

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Correct I have the Mods in my pocket! wacko.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-10 13:05:01
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Feb 10 2008, 11:42 AM) [snapback]399990[/snapback]
Jenkins looks a good box to box player who has great strength on the ball and a fair amount of skill to boot. He interacted well with the crowd, geeing up the cowshed a couple of times which will hopefully renew the link between the players and fans which has been lacking for a little while now.

He has only played one game for us, but I was impressed yesterday and to be honest, if the game had only lasted 89 minutes, there would have been so many positives to take. However, the disgraceful way that we lost the game overshaddows so much of the good things we did yesterday. Hopefully a new manager will come in and turn things around, because we showed what we are capable of in patches yesterday.

I was impressed too-you'd have thought he'd been here all season-leading by example and giving vocal advice and encouragement, AND looking as though he WANTED to win!
mortonjag 2008-02-10 13:07:43
QUOTE(ianton @ Feb 10 2008, 10:13 AM) [snapback]399918[/snapback]
Russell is just another mediocre second division player that we have purchased.he is absolute s***e.all he does is run about like a headless chicken.we have a knack of bringing in so called good players from divisions below us.now they have all been shipped out again.Russell will be next

Time will tell!
mortonjag 2008-02-10 13:10:40
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Feb 10 2008, 11:53 AM) [snapback]399996[/snapback]
We'll have to agree to disagree on that, what about this "winning the league by defualt" nonsense then ? didn't we win it becuase we were the best team over the season ?

We won it because we ended up with most points.
mortonjag 2008-02-10 13:13:40
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Feb 10 2008, 10:18 AM) [snapback]399923[/snapback]
It's spelt McInally . rolleyes.gif tongue.gif

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Beermonkey's spelling masterclass!

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mortonjag 2008-02-10 13:19:28
QUOTE(Last Boat Home @ Feb 10 2008, 10:17 AM) [snapback]399922[/snapback]
You really are a self centred arrogant little p***k - any one that disagrees with your opinion is a “fool” while anyone who agrees with your petty niggles is “intelligent.”

I could argue that I am worthy of a place in the current squad but the simple fact is that Temps couldn’t make a significant difference. Some nice touches but no strength (fell down if you looked at him the wrong way,) terrible in the air for a man of his size and a scoring record which was mediocre at best. He wasn’t even first choice at Brechin when we signed him and for all those people who now think he is some sort of superstar where did he go when freed by Morton - East Fife, says it all really!

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Bet you enjoyed that!

May I just point out that only a fool claims that his opinion is 'a simple fact'?
mortonjag 2008-02-10 13:26:30
QUOTE(steve-ton @ Feb 10 2008, 12:19 PM) [snapback]400015[/snapback]
Didn't think McGuffie was any worse than the rest of them yesterday, but on the whole he has been a poor signing so far. McInally seems to sign players for the sake of it then struggles to fit them into the team. What he should be doing is identifying an area of the team need strengthened and then signing a player that fits into that role.

Well Martin Clark has finally admitted that in a roundabout way. I suspect JM will be off soon, and his legacy will be a useful squad which a half decent manager should start to move up the league.
mortonjag 2008-02-10 13:32:55
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 10 2008, 01:25 PM) [snapback]400073[/snapback]
I'm not enjoying the football at the moment and I doubt many if any are, I boycotted the home games during the Scott era because I didn't want to line the guys pockets but I think this situation is completely different, nobody at the club has set out to delibratly steal from the fans like Scott but although I will continue to go (mainly out of habit) I would not criticize anyone for what ever decision they make, we are all individuals and are entitled to show our support or dissatisfaction in what ever way we wish.
I think its wrong for people here to take the moral high ground and think they are a better fan because they do one thing as opposed to the other, we all have our own reasons for doing it and they are right for us, at the end of the day that's what matters.
The bad days have been around before and I'm sure they will be back again after this particular bout disappears, I'm not sure if there is a long term fix available to us right now but what I'm sure about is something needs to be done as at present things are not working.
It also looks like the fans rally has been scrapped, maybe thats a good thing considering the discontent among fans but I personally think a rally would have given everyone a chance to put their cards on the table although at saying that there seems to be a few guys at the club who see themselves as decent poker players.

It probably is a good thing-I don't think even Douglas Rae could spin things to his advantage right now, and it may well have ended up quite unpleasantly.
mortonjag 2008-02-10 13:55:58 I've just read Blue's account.

In terms of law enforcement, of course, the police officer was correctly performing his duty.

If, however, Blue had just happened to be the Chief Inspector off duty, and had been approached in the manner described, Plod would have had his arse well and truly felt-firstly for using the siren in a non-emergency situation, and secondly for his abrasive manner when dealing with a member of the public.

We can do without clots like that-they just give the rest of the force a bad name.
mortonjag 2008-02-10 15:31:08
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Feb 10 2008, 01:41 PM) [snapback]400094[/snapback]
That's actually your arse you talk from... I thought you were a doctor?

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mortonjag 2008-02-10 15:39:43
QUOTE(Toby @ Feb 10 2008, 01:06 PM) [snapback]400051[/snapback]
That's totally out of order. Fair enough I don't see eye to eye with Scott and I'm usually on your side of the fence but it's a despicible way to speak to someone.

I think what upsets me most though is that you appear to be taking pleasue out of this, as if your foresight has been correct and you want to rub everyone elses' noses in it. I can guarantee you MJ, from a fellow prophet of doom, this is no fun at all.

Toby-if that's how you see it, it's fine by me.

I've no intention of individually highlighting the frequently offensive and gratuitous comments young Gillan has made about me, and he knows very well I'm speaking the truth.

You are also spot on when you say I'm taking pleasure-NOT in Morton's plight-that's silly, simply in giving back IN VERY SMALL MEASURE some of the stick I've had to take for being correct.

Is that unfair?
mortonjag 2008-02-10 15:42:20
QUOTE(piehutt @ Feb 10 2008, 02:49 PM) [snapback]400123[/snapback]
Deservedly so - he's a total arse.

Glad he is one of only two people on my ignore list, or I'd have been well sucked into this by now.

You've STILL not released that huff button Piehole-are you waiting till you grow up before you challenge me again? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-10 15:49:57
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 10 2008, 03:35 PM) [snapback]400136[/snapback]
For several weeks now I've thought that Scott Brown of Sceptic looks like a slimmer facial version of JM.

Is it just me ??

If someone could post the pics that'd be great.

Wait Willow-I sense you're about to start some rumour about the Tims and illegal use of clones.
mortonjag 2008-02-10 15:54:57
QUOTE(Mastodon @ Feb 10 2008, 03:37 PM) [snapback]400139[/snapback]
I'd keep Stevenson, but McAnespie has been appalling.

The story was that McAnespie asked to train with us.

It was then given the usual spin-an 'ex premiership player'-or something to that effect, by the powers that be-if you recall that was exactly at the time when Rae was obsessed with getting McGowan back at almost any price.

I believe McAnespie was no more than a gamble and a good sweetener for those irritating fans.
mortonjag 2008-02-10 16:11:27
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Feb 10 2008, 03:50 PM) [snapback]400151[/snapback]
The eejit was at it again yesterday. Harding got it in the neck for a couple of paragraphs. dry.gif



Mr Rae said-and I quote verbatim.........


.....from an apparent position of little danger near the corner flag, with our defender in possession the latter player totally mis-hit his attempted clearance, in fact in golfing parlance it could be said that he shanked it!! A corner kick was the outcome, it was a good one and 'old friend' Sean O'Connor met it square on and bulletted the ball into our net. Unfortunately the culprit who gave away the needless corner and whose job was to guard Sean throughout the match, failed to get properly off the ground making it easy for Sean to get a good connection.


It looks like the 'culprit' was suitably dealt with by Mr Rae yesterday!!

Meanwhile of Brian Wake who played almost the whole match he stated 'Brian will soon get match fit and then I am sure he will make a good impression on all supporters...'

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mortonjag 2008-02-10 16:15:32
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Feb 10 2008, 03:51 PM) [snapback]400154[/snapback]
To be honest, before Millar picked up his injury earlier in the season I would happily have seen him leave as I don't really think he had ever been anything out of the ordinary, except perhaps the second half of the "Airdrie" season. Since his return though, he has looked a different and far more committed player and Morton should have at least made an attempt to sign him up on a longer contract, he deserved far better treatment even if only for how long he's been with us. In all honesty though, I'm not overly fussed either way about him going.
As for players having a wee barney, I'm all for it, at least they're interested. I would much prefer my players to show a wee bit of passion and aggression at losing goals than merely slouching away with not a care in the world.

I always rated Midge, but over the past two seasons his form has been a bit of a roller coaster. The impending move seems to have helped him no end-he looks far more confident and composed-I guess he's one of the few players who HAS matured in the last three years.
mortonjag 2008-02-10 16:28:27
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Feb 10 2008, 04:17 PM) [snapback]400172[/snapback]
What does everyone see in Rowan Alexander?

He did an absolutely atrocious job at QOS, and Gretna could have marched through the leagues with no manager when you look at the squad they had in comparison to others. Big no for me.

Allan Moore has got the best out of his players and got two promotions despite limited resources at Stirling. He's the man for me.

It's a funny old world-last season when I repeatedly criticised JM I was told 'FFS we're top of the league'.


That despite the fact that in real terms Moore was light years ahead of McInally, as are most of the managers in the present first division.

Billy Reid at Hamilton, and Gordon Chisholm of Queens are examples of unfashionable names doing a sterling job.

I've frequently wondered what would have happened if JM had not been an ex international of some standing-a 'known name' if you like.
mortonjag 2008-02-10 16:34:00 Well? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-10 17:30:22
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Feb 10 2008, 04:38 PM) [snapback]400186[/snapback]
Quoted just for piehut laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-02-10 17:38:18
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Feb 10 2008, 04:37 PM) [snapback]400184[/snapback]
"I do (a wee bit)"

Why?

I feel the guy's been trapped between a rock and a hard place for some time.

Who in his right mind can afford to walk away from a job when he's got family commitments and no guarantee of anything better in the pipeline?

Who in his right mind can have been happy working under Rae for three years, especially of late when the finances have been cut back?

I don't regret a word I've ever said about his managerial ability, but I can still feel sorry for JM the man.
mortonjag 2008-02-10 17:45:20
QUOTE(Mastodon @ Feb 10 2008, 03:57 PM) [snapback]400159[/snapback]
If you're being 100% honest here Jag, do you think a new manager will turn things around or is the interference from Raemanov too much for any manager? We never heard the truth from John McCormack and I doubt when/if that joker McInally leaves we'll hear anything substantial from him.

I think a hell of a lot will depend on what's going on behind the scenes. There's clearly been a change in the way money is being spent/saved, and Alistair Donald is hovering in the wings.

Maybe Rae's utter control has been faltering-maybe others will have a say in the selection of a new manager-one who WILL be allowed to manage.

As you suggest, it's been almost impossible to know the truth about what goes on behind the scenes.

Maybe even that will change.
mortonjag 2008-02-10 17:54:03 I just wish it worked like that, but it obviously doesn't Sean. I always get behind the team, but it seems that as long as JM's still in charge the 'feel good factor' is gone for the bulk of the fans

I'll guarantee one thing though. If JM's sacked before next Saturday, we'll probably beat Dundee, irrespective of who's in charge-temporary or otherwise. drastic changes are needed now-it's NOT too late.
mortonjag 2008-02-11 06:29:23
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Feb 10 2008, 07:40 PM) [snapback]400336[/snapback]
Erm, wouldn't say 'hot' or 'chick' but I'm pretty sure I've seen a 'micro thong' as HE gets changed in the Tannoy Bothy... laugh.gif

Not that I look or anything, although I do need to zip him up the back on occassion... ohmy.gif wub.gif ph34r.gif

Good gracious-YOU too-that's Gash, Tannoy Man, and Mortonjag all with wee willies-if we don't watch the mindless muppets will be jumping on the bandwagon and 'wallopers' will become passe on this board! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-11 06:31:57 Too mr r beivur

phuk oph-eye hav olreddie ah plyde

(sined Munx) xxx pee ess thi wun awn thi lepht
mortonjag 2008-02-11 06:41:14
QUOTE(HamCam @ Feb 10 2008, 05:59 PM) [snapback]400243[/snapback]
You sound like a spoilt wain.

Your comments are well out of order. I do not agree with many of SG's posts and at times he does my nut in with his seemingly blinkered views in defending the current regime but he like everyone else on here is entitled to his view on life.

You seem unable to accept anyone who does not agree with your vilification of DDFR.

Hang on a minute I think in one of the kids cupboards there is a medal for being Mr Right, you can hang it around your neck with your Mr Smug and Mr Sanctimonious bling.

Good morning my capricious clown prince-I'm not attacking 'brown tongue' for his opinions-I'm highlighting his despicable chameleon behaviour which I have described as 'a rat deserting a sinking ship'.

Right to the end he was courting kudos by portaying himself as the last bastion of JM support, while giving me vile abuse into the bargain.

Anyway, what gives you the right to decide what is and is not 'out of order'

Mr Smugimonious? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-11 06:50:10
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 10 2008, 06:39 PM) [snapback]400289[/snapback]
why are you trying to make out you were the first guy wanting jm out the door? all this "i was correct" pish. you really are like a big f***ing wean

Forza, you're normally quite a reasonable guy,and that comment is not. I've NEVER suggested 'I was 'first to'want rid of JM'-in fact I'm absolutely certain I was not, because I think long and hard before reaching conclusions.

I was, however, one of the first with the courage of my convictions. A fair few of the current rash of 'JM haters' would have slightly red faces if I copied and pasted comments they made about me in those days-and they know who they are.

So let's have less of the big wean stuff, unless you want me to show you who the real weans are.

Folk like Toby, and Arkleston, Chrissiboi, and Largston, and Willowman and a few others probably understand how I feel right now-other guys who have at least had the balls to stand up for their beliefs.

Fair is fair.
mortonjag 2008-02-11 06:56:33
QUOTE(SramTon @ Feb 10 2008, 08:29 PM) [snapback]400359[/snapback]
In the past month or so I've read three posts that nearly had my jaw dropping through the floor.

The most recent was Scott's. The second was by someone who only a fortnight ago called someone a ****ing **ss** on P&B for criticising McInally, yet within the last 30 hours has "done a Scott". The third related to a "change of heart" after several years of defending a certain centre-half.

The thing that astonished me with all 3 posts (by separate posters) was that they were written as if the individuals concerned had held that view, and been correct, all along.

No-one (except it seems MJ) is seeking apologies or public humiliations. Personally I don't have a problem with either of the 3 having changed their mind. In fact, in a sense their views are of more significance insofar as it would be interesting to know what put them over the edge.

But if they're not going to provide some rationale for their respective volte-faces they should at least cut out the bare-faced hypocrisy of acting like they've held the same unwavering conviction all their life.

I'm not seeking apology Scram-I've never felt the need for folk to apologise to this old trouble maker, and if they give me better than I get, that's all in the spirit of the jousting.

Public humiliations have been self engendered by the clots who deliberately and gratuitously hurled abuse at those whose views they now apparently share.
mortonjag 2008-02-11 06:59:47
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Feb 10 2008, 10:08 PM) [snapback]400398[/snapback]
That'll be why, when the high ball cam in and he was six yards out (second half) he balooned it over the bar!!

A striker? I think the closest he came to a striker was sleeping with one

Oh dear!
mortonjag 2008-02-11 07:10:08 If it suits both clubs and the player fine by me, but I'm not going to slag him off. It's similar to the Sanny situation IMO, and IF we were strengthening our squad, I'd have kept both in the competitive pool.
mortonjag 2008-02-11 07:23:39
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 10 2008, 06:28 PM) [snapback]400279[/snapback]
You get were am coming from here though?

as I said we are Morton, not Jim, Dougie, Players etc.

I fully agree with TTG, but at he end of the day, I do not want to see us in a relgation battle and if it takes me as a fan to stand and sing my heart out so be it! We can all predict doom and glome, it so easy to do, but only we as fans can change it!(cos our manager can't)

I know exactly where you're coming from-it's been the same scenario at Scapa for months on end. The team comes on to reasonable if not particularly vocal encouragement. They kick off and everything goes quiet. It takes some ridiculous refereeing decision, or a nasty foul by an opponent to elicit a whimper of complaint from the cowshed. Sometimes we score a goal, and the crowd goes berserk-for two minutes-then back to the hush.

The only time we ever 'get behind the boys' seems to be when they're playing well and comfortably ahead-that's a bit topsy turvy if you ask me.

It's all to do with the general atmosphere down Scapa way-there's been no sense of unity and purpose for ages-a Chairman detached from the fans and reality-a manager who 'jets in' for games and then f*cks off home again, players who seem alienated from the fans and are willing to comment about it.

We are NOT a community-and we SHOULD be.

Much though I abhor the ultimate idiocy of the Mileson campaign, he at least knew how to generate a feeling of togetherness at his club.

So you're right Sean-we SHOULD be getting behind the players, but nothing will change this week unless JM goes. If he does, everybody can go to Dundee feeling we have a fresh start. Jenkins and Smith will do for the boys what JM has never done, and together we can get a victory.
mortonjag 2008-02-11 07:33:50 If the Chairman AND board really want a manager who will be given full responsibility and adequate funding, there is no reason to be pessimistic. Previous records do not guarantee success,but at least there is less of a gamble in signing somebody with a good track record.

I'd have Moore if he was available.
mortonjag 2008-02-11 07:49:33 I'm extremely worried by the 'Rae is desperate' part.

If EVER proof positive was needed that the Chairman is now a total liability, this is it.

He is clearly more obsessed with saving the 'pay off' dosh, than saving the club from relegation, and I still get abuse for highlighting the damage this man's now doing!!!

What's worse is that he may spin it as though he's the benign father figure, giving his prodigal son yet another chance, when in fact he's hoping all the while that JM will walk away without compensation. I can just see it-----


'The club is sorry to announce the departure of Manager Jim McInally. After lengthy discussion, a mutual agreement has been reached whereby Jim has been released from his contract.

The Chairman was keen to retain his services, but Jim insisted that he 'had taken the club as far as he could, and that it was time to move on'. We thank him for his services and wish him well for the future'.

Yours aye

Raemanov
mortonjag 2008-02-11 07:57:10
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Feb 10 2008, 06:21 PM) [snapback]400272[/snapback]
Incredibly, I too had parked roughly in the same place as you, at the top of King Street I was about to get out of my car to use the ATM, this was at 7am in the morning and I near jobbied myself when I heard the siren suddenly blared out from the polis motor which sneaked up behind me ; this was about 15 years ago but uncanny the similarities with your situation.

I remember thinking at the time that surely they could have asked me to shift without waking up the neighbourhood at the crack of dawn.



They say coincidences come in threes. I double parked outside-I'm CERTAIN it was Haddows-in Greenock road Pishley many many years ago. We had just beaten the 'Midden' and I wanted a wee 'Judas' to celebrate. A big paddy wagon rolled up full of Pishley Polis who were extremely discourteous to me. They'd obviously just come from duty at the game.

I forgot to mention-my Ton scarf was draped across the parcel shelf! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-11 08:01:08
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 10 2008, 09:08 PM) [snapback]400382[/snapback]
I already have everything I need so I'd give it all away to cancer research... you can't buy inner contentment, so might as well do some good with it.

I feel a bit like that-though I'd probably hang on to-say-10%.You never know what's just around the corner CHC!
mortonjag 2008-02-11 08:17:45 The U.S. National Library of Medicine says the following factors can contribute to nightmares:

* Eating just before bed, which can increase brain activity.
* Any anxiety or stress.
* Any major life event, including the death of a loved one.
* Illness, including fever.
* An adverse reaction, side effect or withdrawal from a drug.
* Alcohol withdrawal, or excessive alcohol consumption.
* Breathing disorders, including sleep apnea.
* Sleep disorders, including narcolepsy

My personal experience is that cheese can cause bad dreams-Stilton being the worst!
mortonjag 2008-02-11 08:35:49
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Feb 10 2008, 10:44 PM) [snapback]400408[/snapback]


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The British Cheese Board, you mean! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-11 08:37:42
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Feb 10 2008, 10:49 PM) [snapback]400413[/snapback]
Bloody stilton, I knew it.
I had a massive bowl of broccoli and stilton soup sad.gif

Oh well you can self propel yourself to the toilet with that, AND have the house to yourself all day!
mortonjag 2008-02-11 08:39:55
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 11 2008, 08:10 AM) [snapback]400508[/snapback]
Yeah OK, I didn't go into as much detail as others on here... I'd put a few million into trust funds for each of the weins to get on their 25th birthday, keep a couple of million for a rainy day and ensure I'm finantially comfortable for the rest of my life, and donate the remaining 85m or so to worthy causes.

This would give me infinitely more inner contentment than spending it on material things for myself.

It'll never happen anyway, I have never bought a lottery ticket in my life and don't intend to at any time in the future. smile.gif

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mortonjag 2008-02-11 08:41:25 laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-11 08:45:37 'Personality-Nature or Nurture'?


I really enjoyed researching that one, though I had already concluded that it's a combination of both-varying in proportion from person to person.
mortonjag 2008-02-11 08:47:57
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Feb 11 2008, 08:20 AM) [snapback]400511[/snapback]
Can't hear you. wink.gif

I sympathise with any manager who has been getting the treatment that JM has.

God help the new manager - anything less than a 20 game unbeaten run and the fickle arseholes in the Cowshed will be spouting their usual guff.

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mortonjag 2008-02-11 08:59:45
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Feb 11 2008, 08:53 AM) [snapback]400527[/snapback]
Think this is basically all PR work so as no-one comes out of it looking to bad.

Dougie looks like a great guy to work for by trying to keep his staff through a terrible run showing loyalty and making the ton job more attractive.

Jim showing that he's a man of integrity by tendering his resignation and doing whats right for the club making him an attractive proposition as a future manager of another club

All in all I reckon a pay off will be thrashed out the day and hopefully a new man (duffy) waiting in the wings

I think it's got far more to do with that aspect than any PR on JM's part.

Rae clearly doesn't want to be seen to have sacked him, but surely Jim will be sticking out for as much 'hush money' as possible.
mortonjag 2008-02-11 09:03:06
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Feb 11 2008, 01:16 AM) [snapback]400473[/snapback]
i used to see it going by about 5 times a day when i stayed in Albert rd down the front of Gourock

By jupiter!
mortonjag 2008-02-11 09:53:07
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Feb 11 2008, 09:21 AM) [snapback]400541[/snapback]
I also expect our support to be down on Saturday if JM leaves, as around 50 Ton fans will have had their only pleasure in life taken from them.

They could, of course, go and watch JM shopping in Dundee and continue to yell at him (at least until the next manager become superfluous in their eyes).

It will be a pleasure to see you discredited!
mortonjag 2008-02-11 09:59:48
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 11 2008, 09:14 AM) [snapback]400537[/snapback]
slight contradiction there.

we don't of course know the terms of the contract, nor of any ex-gratia possibility, but on the face of it (rolling contract), i'd expect the 'pay off' dosh following resignation to be less than the 'pay off' dosh following termination.

so if resignation equals no automatic year's compensation, and rae wanted him gone, why would he persuade him to stay?

You're missing the point entirely- I DON'T think Rae wants him to stay-I simply believe that at ALL COSTS he wants to avoid having to sack him. It's been suggested that JM had already offered to go after the 6-1 debacle at Livingston.

Rae is just playing his cards close to his chest-he may be a useless football club Chairman, but I'm certain he's an old hand at wheeling and dealing.
mortonjag 2008-02-11 10:04:13
QUOTE(princessTON @ Feb 11 2008, 10:01 AM) [snapback]400555[/snapback]
they should both leave imo.

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mortonjag 2008-02-11 10:08:25
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Feb 11 2008, 10:05 AM) [snapback]400559[/snapback]
well Mortonjag already called him hitler, so who ever took over from hitler originally should do it lol

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I didn't actually CALL him Hitler-I simply compared his personality to those of Hitler, Mussolini, and Saddam!
mortonjag 2008-02-11 11:26:09
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Feb 11 2008, 11:19 AM) [snapback]400594[/snapback]
Good post, Sean.

We're faves for relegation now so the fans must start doing their bit. Gutted I can't go on Saturday, a new manager will give us a huge lift and I actually expect us to get 3 points. Elaine's treating me to a night in Troon so who am I to argue. smile.gif mad.gif

That's exactly what I expect-the sense of relief and a fresh start will be huge. Jenkins was already imposing his authority on the others on Saturday, and Smith has definitely calmed the defence-even if we have still had a few gaffes. The players will realise there's nobody in the dugout to expect guidance from-it'll be up to them, and I reckon they'll 'go for it'.

I also fully expect a fresh energy from the fans-we'll now have something to aim for and something to prove. We COULD still end up in the top five.
mortonjag 2008-02-11 11:37:23
QUOTE(Earnton @ Feb 11 2008, 11:11 AM) [snapback]400591[/snapback]
I'm not convinced that changing the manager with 12 games to go will make 1st Division football more likely next season.

The transfer window is closed - a new manager has to work with the players we have. There is no guarantee a new manager could do any better because I suspect we would stuggle to attract top quality candidates.

Certainly things need to be changed and now - particularly on the pitch. The players need to be motivated to win every game. There are other ways to motivate than changing the manager that may have the opposite effect on some players.

Its only 2 weeks since the fantastic result in Dumfries and on Sat we were 2 mins away from putting a 5 point gap beteween ourselves and Clyde. There must be something there !!

An example of expectancy and actual delivery is what has happened at Newcastle. Everyone , including myself expected the new managers appointment(fans favourite) to give the club a boost, even just short term - but it hasnt happened and I think Newcastle are in a worse position now than they were with Big Sam.

Better the devil we know then?

It's absolutely crystal clear to me that the players are in disarray. Some have even suggested that they are 'deliberately not trying'. I agree that there's no guarantee that a new broom will sweep clean, but it surely has to be the gamble we take. Either that or we could be in freefall to relegation.

mortonjag 2008-02-11 11:41:17
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Feb 11 2008, 11:24 AM) [snapback]400599[/snapback]
Although i like Chris Miller as a player, I think some people on here are blowing his contribution of late slightly out of proportion... remember Miller has the advantage of knowing he isnt stuck in this crap team .. he is leaving hence the pressure is off and he can relax in games which obviously brings out the best in him, the other guys are still under pressure , just because Miller signs a contract with another team and turns in a few " no pressure" performances (remeber, he still needs to impress his new employers to gaurentee a game) doesnt make him the player that people think... he was always suspect to chuck it in games when things werent going his way.

I agree about the pressure/no pressure aspect.

That's why we must change the manager now. When you're in a rut, it's sometimes impossible to see the way out. The minute somebody facilitates an escape-most folk grab the chance.
mortonjag 2008-02-11 11:47:32
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Feb 11 2008, 11:43 AM) [snapback]400630[/snapback]
Not at all.
Future managers will get the same treatment as JM when it all goes sour - it's the way at Scapa (just remember Cowboy).

It is time for a change, but I did not feel the need for personal abuse of a manager either on here or at the games.
Besides, I had enough of doing that under McGraw.

What exactly is your agenda-if the team start thrilling us with good performances, the cowshed will take care of those very few inveterate 'boo boys'.

Any thoughts on the bigger picture?
mortonjag 2008-02-11 12:02:07 It's damned obvious that nobody's been playing well. McGurn is not brilliant, but IMO he's a competent keeper, and sometimes turns on a fine display. When Mathers came at first he DID appear to steady the defence, but his form slipped (possibly that niggling back problem) and maybe Davie should have got in again sooner.

If you really want to make a goalkeeping issue-tell me why the club has only one keeper in McGurn. Robinson was offered to every Ist division club-we took him, and he's clearly still very inexperienced.

The farcical situation of Keenan listed as No 2 goalie passed without too much criticism of the club.

All attention's now on JM's probable departure, and of course it's great to have got Jenkins, but our signing policy's been a total shambles.

For that, I DON'T entirely blame the manager.
mortonjag 2008-02-11 12:07:48
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Feb 11 2008, 11:53 AM) [snapback]400638[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif but still sick laugh.gif

Would Wake's walloper fit that?
mortonjag 2008-02-11 12:13:39
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 11 2008, 12:05 PM) [snapback]400643[/snapback]
Don't see why that's so farcical really. Every club in the division only has the two keepers do they not?

I've no idea. All I know about the situation is that we played at least one match with Keenan as the stand in goalkeeper. I believe most other clubs would have had a youth or reserve keeper availabe, and furthermore, we appeared to make no attempt to tie up an emergency loan.
mortonjag 2008-02-11 12:19:09
QUOTE(Lovedaddy @ Feb 11 2008, 12:10 PM) [snapback]400646[/snapback]
Scott ' Kick the ball the way i'm facing' Mclaughlin is shocking.

McLaughlin frustrates me no end, but to say that is daft. He reads the game well, tracks back very effectively, and gives 100% in every match. He's also quick to spot a chance for a shot from the edge of the box.

In terms of a holding or creative player, he's not good, but a squad is composed of players with different qualities, and it's up to the manager to utilise them.
mortonjag 2008-02-11 13:30:51
QUOTE(Deficon @ Feb 11 2008, 01:20 PM) [snapback]400699[/snapback]
This is no the jeremy kyle show, he's not getting results he goes, just as if i kept stacking badly in tesco i would be sacked. nothing personal smile.gif


Would nobody feel even a tinsy winsy wee bit sorry for you? sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-11 13:35:43
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 11 2008, 01:00 PM) [snapback]400688[/snapback]
Polar bears are generally regarded as the worlds finest land based killer. The lion would get bawhumped by both of them but even a Siberian tiger would have no chance against the Coke drinking, early years Tyson of the animal world.
As for investing in Morton, if I had £95m I'd happily sling in £5m not expecting any monetary return on it. No way would I invest four out of ten million though. What a fanny!

I'm led to believe than when a bi-polar bear's down, you can finish him off simply by blessing yourself.
mortonjag 2008-02-11 14:25:29
QUOTE(Cawston @ Feb 11 2008, 01:49 PM) [snapback]400718[/snapback]
Rog's view..

Todays Tele

Jim will not put self interest before the general good of the club apparently. That's all very easy stuff for a Tilly story, but Jim DOES have his family to think about, and I'd put that before any job.

Rae wants good spin, and Jim clearly needs a satisfactory 'pay out'.

Simple Mr Rae, and 'left by mutual consent' will do just nicely thank you!
mortonjag 2008-02-11 14:32:54
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Feb 11 2008, 02:07 PM) [snapback]400725[/snapback]
Definitely agree with you here. Unfortunately you're wasting yer breath I'm afraid. I haven't got the time or inclination to check, but virtually every player we have has been called sh1t (or worse) by 'fans' on here on a regular basis (and also subject to the same verbals at matches - although the 'fans' often deny being the ones who shout abuse ) You mention two of the most common victims of the keyboard assasins Harding/Finlayson/Millar/McGuffie /Mcanespie/Robinson are some of the other contenders. Peter Weatherson - our 'hero to zero in 60 seconds' may be in a class of his own as far as the abuse goes.We''ve had regular accusations of players not being interested which, in my opinion is really sh1t.
Don't get me started on the stuff that McInally has been subject to............... He may be failing as a manager but he has nothing to be ashamed of. Some of the people on here are too thick to be shamed but they are the ones who should be checking the mirror. Oh, and how quick they are to squeal if anyone dares to 'blame the fans' laugh.gif
Who can blame Millar for making a bee line for Perth or Greacan to Livi .......it's no coincidence that they have been two of the most 'dissed' players on this wonderful organ of free speech.

(oh and to rip the arce out of it, I do feel sorry for McInally , but I feel just as sorry for his successor having to face the one handed typists on here.

Thank f*ck I don't criticise individual players!!!

Hey Cloth Ears-what MORE can I do to get Shoogly to go-am I being too kind? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-11 14:39:50
QUOTE(cha-mcc @ Feb 11 2008, 02:33 PM) [snapback]400742[/snapback]
Ian Dowie has been sacked as manager of Coventry.

What?? Did yous think that Jim had been given the boot? tongue.gif

Yes-I've just trashed the house in delight! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-11 14:44:15
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 11 2008, 02:01 PM) [snapback]400722[/snapback]
see the reek of smugness off of you... it's sickening.

Don't let people upset you so much.

Have you thought about consulting a doctor?
mortonjag 2008-02-11 16:21:47
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 11 2008, 02:44 PM) [snapback]400768[/snapback]
blah blah blah

That's twice in twenty four hours you haven't answered a question!

Maybe if I sent you a nice wee p.m. you'd post it for all to see!

As I suggested-why don't you get some professional help? smile.gif

Ooops-no more p.m.'s

You are becoming more withdrawn by the minute-next you'll not even bother to log on.

Sad really-you're a good laugh!
mortonjag 2008-02-11 16:27:15 Scott was an evil b*****d. Shoogly's just misguided.
mortonjag 2008-02-11 17:41:28
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Feb 11 2008, 04:03 PM) [snapback]400870[/snapback]
did you know any of these guys personally? do you know Rae personally? if the answer to either of these questions is "no", than you are not in the best position to make such assesments of their presonalities. furthermore, to the best of my knowledge, Douglas Rae has never been responsible for any kind of genocide or ethnic cleansing, and has never made any attempts to annex neighbouring countries, sweetie factories or football clubs.

What a load of utter bollocks, and you either know that or you haven't a clue!!!

Are you trying to suggest that there hasn't been a mountain of literature about all three except Mr Rae.

Rae is a 'benign dictator'-that is as plain as a pikestaff-ask any employee of his past or present, and before you claim I don't have detailed information-don't bother.

Furthermore I explained at the time of the original post that my comparison was purely in terms of absolute control. The mess that is GMFC is a good example of that.
mortonjag 2008-02-11 17:45:16 Still fighting about money I guess.
mortonjag 2008-02-11 22:44:07 What could and should have been a fresh start has been turned into a public farce!

Rae-the 'successful businessman'

Rae-the 'most passionate fan the Ton ever had'

Rae-'the Saviour'

Today Mr Rae had a gilt edged opportunity to stage manage a revival in the club's fortunes-I cannot believe that his fellow Board members would not have wanted that!

Today Mr Rae has demonstrated beyond a shadow of doubt that his sanity is in question.

No successful businessman in history has deliberately alienated his source of income.

It is time NOW for his son and fellow directors to do something about this doddering old fool before he takes them down with him.

TIME TO GO SHOOGLY

mortonjag 2008-02-11 23:03:20 What Rae is actually saying is-'I appointed JM-a fine man and excellent manager whose talents were destroyed by the fans'.

Nowhere does he admit that JM couldn't cut the mustard-and he has, as always attempted to remain above reproach himself.

To whom does he imagine his official announcement is directed? Certainly there will always be bigger fools than himself-Piehutt, Real Hoops, and Smithston spring to mind-but even Rae must realise that the huge majority of GMFC.net readers are Morton fans.

Does he expect us to meekly apologise now?

After all it's apparent he believes that we are to blame for this nadir in fortunes.

He hasn't given us what we've been paying to see, and only HE is responsible.

No sympathy is deserved by this ageing clown. Pray that his fellow directors get rid of him A.S.A.P.
mortonjag 2008-02-11 23:19:05
QUOTE(dmc @ Feb 11 2008, 11:05 PM) [snapback]401642[/snapback]
Why is it a public farce?

I think he has a point!
If you were constantly bombarded with negativity from your patients wouldn't you begin to doubt your own ability?
If not doubt ability then at least a huge dent in your confidence!

Just for the record did Dougie ever shag your wife in front of you??


Edited for spelling mistake, which I just know you would have picked up on!!

I'm not in the mood for arguing or picking on anybody tonight. The analogy with a doctor and his patients only holds in the sense that patients have the power to vote with their feet, and that's exactly what's been happening at Cappielow.

It's entertaining and healthy that we have conflicting views on this forum, but it's my considered opinion that no true fan will take today's statement on the chin.

One final comment-if Rae's shagging ability equates to his PR nous, I'll happily invite him to shag my partner on the centre spot at Scapa before a paying audience.

Laughter, they say, is good medicine.
mortonjag 2008-02-11 23:26:48
QUOTE(stubaws @ Feb 11 2008, 11:08 PM) [snapback]401647[/snapback]
did you honestly expect him to come out and slate the guy on the clubs official site? does he need to admit it coz we all know he couldn't cut it in this division.

He did not need to 'slate' the ex manager-the results have spoken for themselves.

Instead of simply praising JM's qualities as a fellow being, he has painted him as some footballing icon wantonly smashed by fans' thuggery.

That is quite simply because Rae still cannot admit that HE F*CKED UP.

He's a liability now, and better he should step aside before more damage is done.
mortonjag 2008-02-11 23:32:07
QUOTE(stubaws @ Feb 11 2008, 11:26 PM) [snapback]401679[/snapback]
fair enough mj, i agree he could've worded it better but couldn't it also be said that its dougie's considered opinion that no true fan would dish out the abuse heard at cappielow these past few years?

Ill considered opinion.
mortonjag 2008-02-11 23:34:15
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Feb 11 2008, 10:14 PM) [snapback]401512[/snapback]
You go ahead and write your letter but please dont dare say that you speak for Morton fans as I for one congratulate Rae for his comments.

I presume you still have me under your little huff button, so some kind soul may possibly quote me when I say your sycophancy is thoroughly sickening.
mortonjag 2008-02-11 23:40:31
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Feb 11 2008, 11:35 PM) [snapback]401695[/snapback]
Give it a rest for one day plz

Give it a REST-that old fool's brought it to a bloody head today-don't blame me.
mortonjag 2008-02-11 23:46:58
QUOTE(stubaws @ Feb 11 2008, 11:34 PM) [snapback]401688[/snapback]
maybe read a bit much into that there, i think he has been fair to jim and has noted his strengths and parted on good terms. if he had not given him some praise then people would've been quick to say its bad PR by the club or somehting like that so he couldnt really win. u rarely hear anything different from a club when a manager leaves. he also mentions that support is better at away games than home, cant argue with that. never even comes close to calling the fans thugs or anything like it

Let's get something straight.I'm not willing to accept that 'they parted on good terms' until I hear JM confirm that.

Today's statement was all about a hurt Shoogly who has publicly lost face by having to part company with his pet puppet.

Who appointed Jim, and who persevered with him through thick and thin?

Rae's self interest has always preceded everything and always will.
mortonjag 2008-02-11 23:49:08
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 11 2008, 11:47 PM) [snapback]401705[/snapback]
There's a profound irony in the Chairman's statement. Some of McInally's most vociferous critics haven't missed a Morton away game, including foreign friendlies, in years.

True-and the most vociferous TTG outbursts have always come at away matches.
mortonjag 2008-02-11 23:50:03
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Feb 11 2008, 11:34 PM) [snapback]401691[/snapback]
Done laugh.gif tongue.gif

TY!
mortonjag 2008-02-11 23:52:03
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Feb 11 2008, 11:43 PM) [snapback]401703[/snapback]
Everyone is over reacting to this statement and reading words that aren't there FFS.

That is your opinion.

I'll bet Crawford and the others are actually cringing right now. sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-11 23:56:19 Since it's apparent that nothing has been learned by that ageing buffoon, and that the rest of the Board have the hearts of field mice, it's pretty obvious that the first task for the new 'manager' will be to swear allegiance to the Shooglemeister and acquaint his tongue with the inner secrets of the latter's rectum.
mortonjag 2008-02-11 23:59:18
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Feb 11 2008, 11:53 PM) [snapback]401715[/snapback]
I'd agree with that Scott. MJ, give that one a rest. I read your posts so know a great deal about your thoughts/feelings for Dougie but rein it in a little for the time being. Lets see how things pan out now, maybe he will surprise us wink.gif

The results of the poll are as follows at the moment. So its obvious that a lot of fans agree with Dougie to a point.

yes [ 23 ] [41.82%]
no [ 32 ] [58.18%]

McInally is gone and that should be enough news for fans for one day without now calling for the Shoogle-miester to 'do one' also. Ok the man can be is a PR disaster at times but what he has posted is nothing compared to what gets posted about him, the club, the players. Think the only one who hasn't been criticised is the groundsman (who does do a sterling job)

For heavens sake people lets get a grip here and put our focus on getting behind the team now home and away.

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No probs Gash-I'll give it a rest for today-Monday! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-12 00:02:44
QUOTE(dmc @ Feb 11 2008, 11:59 PM) [snapback]401723[/snapback]
He did didn't he?? He had your wife over a table while you watched!!!

GIVE IT A f***ING REST YOU p***k!!!!

OK I'll confess under pressure-he did attempt to shag my wife-failed to get an erection, and blamed it on the weather.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 00:04:22
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Feb 12 2008, 12:00 AM) [snapback]401724[/snapback]
I bloody knew that was coming laugh.gif

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The monkey says I've to leave Mr Rae alone till the morning, and the monkey must be obeyed. Goodnight and God bless.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 07:32:02 Yesterday...Rae-speaking about JM...'very professional, honest, trustworthy, and honourable'.

Saturday...JM..in programme...'Once again I have to commend the fans on the atmosphere created last week against Queen of the South. You have never let us down this season and today we especially need your support and backing as we attempt to pull away from the wrong end of the table'.

Yesterday... Rae... speaking about JM...Jim indicated that the only way that the players were going to find favour once again with the supporters would be if a new manager was brought in.

No matter what way you look at it something just doesn't add up.

One thing's for sure though-somebody thinks he can say whatever happens to be most convenient, and imagines the fans are daft enough to believe him.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 07:40:01
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 11 2008, 11:05 PM) [snapback]401643[/snapback]
In the whole the chairman has written a fairly decent statement. But he just can't help himself and always forgets to take his foor out his mouth. Blaming the players performances on those nasty home fans who are so much worse that our away fans. What utter pish Mr Rae. I have just lost whatever small scattering of respect I had for you. Time for you to go as well.

What also worries me is this is the guy who ultimately gets to decide who gets the job. I am very worried on that score.

As an afterthought I would just like to say goodbye to Jim McInally and Martin Clark. You are two gentlemen and I hope you get another job soon. You will have learned many lessons from your time at Cappielow which I am sure you will not forget.

Correct Weegie-it worries me sick. If Rae did indeed have the backing of the Board in making that statement, it's clear that he's still very much the main man.

In other words a self centred old buffoon whose sanity is in question gets to determine our fate once again.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 07:46:08
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 12 2008, 02:09 AM) [snapback]401760[/snapback]
the stats dont lie, i dont have a problem with what dougie said.

if we're allowed to criticise him then he's allowed to criticise us, same with the players that the fans start crying about when they dont do cartwheels and show off a t-shirt saying " i love you all " when they get substituted etc.

Hey you-when did you join the Shooglyphiles? wink.gif

Rae is perfectly entitled to criticise the fans if he so desires. What is so gallingly ironic is that he's criticising them for being correct, and moreover for being correct about the mess HE'S brought us to.

People are entitled to their opinions but will also judged by them.

Rae is a wittering old buffoon, and getting worse by the month. I reckon Ravenscraig may not be too far around the corner.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 07:50:17
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Feb 12 2008, 04:01 AM) [snapback]401774[/snapback]
i.e. nothing to do with personality.

what a load of utter bollocks
oh and by the way, if rae has absolute control, why isnt mcinally still boss? oh yeah, thats right... its because of the fans.

what a load of utter bollocks.

Stick to writing wee ditties son-you clearly know f*ck all about personality.

Rae's personality is the reason why JM was chosen-Rae's personality is the reason why JM has left.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 07:58:02
QUOTE(Toby @ Feb 12 2008, 03:30 AM) [snapback]401771[/snapback]
To use just myself and my mates as an example, I go to every game home and away, they go to most games, and I'm inclined to think we have been by far the most vocal in our criticisms towards McInally at the games, whilst others have posted their concerns on here.

Bearing in mind how much of a pain in the arse many of you have decided we are, we've been far louder in our protests away from home, obviously with drink being the influential factor there.

Let's be honest, it's guys like myself that are getting it in the neck from Rae. To be quite honest I couldn't give a fvck. I wish Jim no harm in his future employment. I feel confident that by saying that he'll never adversely affect Morton because clearly he isn't up to the job as manager of a professional football club. But lets look at the facts;

Did the fans fail to hold onto a lead at Stranraer in 2005 in that vital penultimate game?
Did the fans capitualate to a piss-poor Ayr United team and then say that they would no longer be at Cappielow the following season if the club failed to go up in the play-offs?
Did the fans put in possibly the most insipid 180 minutes of football your ever likely to see at the time when a performance was needed more than ever in the play-offs in 2006?
Did the fans lose three Challenge Cup semi finals in a row?
Did the fans not see that Greacen and Harding quite clearly weren't good enough to take the step up once success was finally achieved?
Did the fans do the work on the park that has led to the club sitting in the position it is, staring relegation in the face after taking so long to get back to our "natural level"?

Quite clearly the answer to all these questions is no. I've already expressed my regret over one particular incident, and I'm sure other fans have their regrets about things, but the bottom line is that Morton haven't been good enough, and as a result someone has to take responsibility. That someone is Jim McInally, who has now belatedly done so.

So, what of Mr. Rae's role? Nobody is always right, where have we ever seen him take responsibility for his own failings? The minute things start going tits up at the club, Rae either turns it on the fans or runs a mile. Any wonder why we've not had this rally yet? He'd get hounded and doesn't want to face us.

He really needs to have a good long look at himself here. Two of his pearls of wisdom spring immediately to mind that really infuriate me. First of all the "I'll be in charge of Morton until I draw my last breath" one. Just because he is currently in charge and is better than HS, doesn't mean nobody else can do a better job than him. He has a duty of care towards the club and supporters' for the well being of Morton and isn't fulfilling that duty by refusing to even consider other offers. Then, the Celtic fans thing obviously. Imagine the Chairman of Tesco telling his customers that Sainsburys' customers are better than his own?

To be honest, if I'm one of the people responsible for Jim leaving Cappielow, I'll take that on my conciense. I've been campaigning for him to go for long enough so I've got exactly what I want.

Wonder who the next campaign will be about.



That's something I agree with very strongly Toby, but we still have a hard core on the forum who believe he's entitled to do just as he pleases.

His behaviour seems to be growing more erratic with time, and it's surely a measure of the power this man still wields within his little empire that nobody seems able to stand up to him.

I have upset some folks by comparing him to famous dictators, but Rae is undoubtedly a homespun Hitler in Inverclyde.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 08:02:16 Jim Duffy is capable of doing better than the ex manager IMO.

Jim's got contacts throughout Scottish football, and knows all about Rae.

I just can't see him being tempted-he's far too sensible.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 08:04:44
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 12 2008, 04:11 AM) [snapback]401776[/snapback]
you're not very bright are you?

Brightness is relative.

Can't say I'm overly impressed by your childish behaviour to a new poster, and a young lass at that.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 08:56:53
QUOTE(jimmy boag delivers @ Feb 12 2008, 08:30 AM) [snapback]401800[/snapback]
I don't think Rae has fully thought out his statement and what the repercussions of it will be. If he’s read this messageboard over the past 12 hours then he will be in no doubt now! I think it’s fair to say the feel good factor Rae helped generate since his arrival has now disappeared and he if he is looking to drive a wedge between himself and the fans then he has made good in-roads here.

It seems Chairmen are slaughtered by the press these days for making hasty decisions regarding the security of the manager’s job. Rae himself took some flak in the press for sacking Cowboy when he did (when Cowboy should have walked amid the betting scandal). But here we are with Rae creaming his pants over JM while giving us fans the evils!

I DO NOT agree at all with the tone or the accusation that the fans are to blame in Rae’s statement. However, there is some merit in the fact that a small minority of fans do berate and personally abuse players which is unacceptable. But I do not think the performance of the manager and the berating of players should be viewed as two sides of the same coin. They are not. First, JM never had a settled side in 3 years (!), he showed no tactical nous, he had a terrible record in the transfer market and – for all the comments of being a decent bloke – he didn’t try and strike a relationship with the fans. For example, of the 7 times I have taken hospitality at Cappielow since JM arrived, not once did he (or MC) make an appearance. Not a single “hello”, a “thanks for coming” or “your support is welcome” type of thing. JM liked to keep himself detached and whether or not he wanted it or not, I believe that he failed to create a rapport with the fans. And if you do that you dig your own grave.

Second, the berating of the players I can not fathom. As supporters we all get fed up and frustrated when a tackle that should have been made isn’t, or when a slack pass puts the defence under pressure or when an open goal is missed. But why some ‘fans’ find it within themselves to berate and personally abuse a player I do not know. I’m not sure how this mentality has strengthened within the Morton support in particular but how a new manager is going to fix it. Good luck to the new boss anyway.

Finally, let’s hope Rae makes a decent decision regarding the next manager and we get a settled side fighting their way back up the table. If the antipathy towards continues and a new manager doesn’t get the results then Rae is going to be in stormy water with the fans – probably to the extent that his position as chairman could be untenable.

I think that expression already applies JBD!

Even posters who have continued to give the chairman the benefit of the doubt have been scunnered by this latest outburst.

I agree entirely with what you say about personal abuse of the players-almost every week somebody is selected as the whipping boy-not that the Chairman himself is excused blame as the most prominent perpetrator of the crime.

Isn't it slightly bizarre that one week he sees fit to leave Ryan Harding 'without a name' in his programme notes and the next he blithely transfer the blame for his shocking tenure at Morton onto the very fans who used to happily chant 'Dougie, Dougie' when he WAS bringing some measure of success.

He's put the cart before the horse as usual-fans pay for a product-they are entitled-indeed they SHOULD demonstrate their dissatisfaction if it does not come up to reasonable standards.

It's clear Rae is utterly blind to any kind of reality or reason when it comes to the Club-he still is Daddy-all others are his children who should be seen and not heard.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 09:00:18
QUOTE(cmdc @ Feb 12 2008, 08:56 AM) [snapback]401802[/snapback]
If he wants back into football management I can't really see too many better avenues opening up for him. It must be a pretty tempting vacancy for any ambitious manager from down the leagues or for any more experienced manager looking to get back in the game.

What's done in haste may be regretted at leisure. I'd love to see Duffy given full control at Cappielow. That won't happen. If he does yield to the temptation, I imagine he'll not stay too long.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 09:09:46
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 12 2008, 08:42 AM) [snapback]401801[/snapback]
how the f*** is anyone meant to know the sex of another poster from a name like that? and what the f*** does it matter? blatant sexism mortonjag. shame on you. as for behaviour towards younger posters - u want to have a wee word with yourself.

Civic type R stated early on in the thread that she is an eighteen year old girl and several others confirmed that.

What matters is that she made a youthful mistake as a new poster, and promptly acknowledged the gaffe, but was still pursued by the self righteous. She attempted to defend herself and also made a perfectly valid point in her PERSONAL message to Narcissus, who glanced briefly from his mirror to copy and paste it in characteristically haughty derision.

The poster happened to be female-had he been a lad I'd have mentioned an eighteen year old 'boy'.

Now to your final comment. Let me state yet again Forza, I NEVER attack first-simple as that, but the young bucks who deliberately try to put one over on Mortonjag know EXACTLY what they are doing! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-12 09:17:16
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 12 2008, 09:03 AM) [snapback]401805[/snapback]
sieg heil sieg heil sieg heil

is dougie any good at painting then? you could ask him to help you with your kitchen tongue.gif

The kitchen is my Mother's- sweet Trumpet- and has been finished to a very high specification. I have now completed the redecoration of or bathroom and am half way to completion of the en-suite.

I'd be unhappy to have help from anyone-I can't abide folk looking over my shoulder or criticising anything I do. Everything I start is completed to perfection, and if anyone dares to cast a sideways glance at my wondrous creations, he is never seen or heard of again.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 09:20:25
QUOTE(ianton @ Feb 12 2008, 09:18 AM) [snapback]401812[/snapback]
the only problem would he let rae have as much influence in the dressing room?.we need a manager who is going o have to tell rae where his limits are.sadly i can never see this happening while rae is there.life would just become impossible and he would leave sooner rather than later.rae is just as big a problem as our manager was.imho of course.

Morton's problem in a nutshell.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 09:33:41 Mr Rae has had great and deserved credit for historically saving the club from extinction. I now believe he is a liability, who in his late seventies ought to be occupying a non executive role at Cappielow.

What do others think?
mortonjag 2008-02-12 09:39:57
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 12 2008, 09:32 AM) [snapback]401822[/snapback]
laugh.gif im not a "shooglyphile " but i dont have a problem with a chairman or players having a go at us if theyre not happy with something. we give it out to them every single day on here and every saturday at the game.

everyones entitled to their opinions and id rather they shared their opinions. Dougie thinking we were partly to blame for our home results isnt going to alienate me or make me love morton any less.

if you give it out you should be able to take it, our fans are far from perfect and its far from inconvievable that people inside the club dislike us. im not naive enough to think we're all loved, just as dougie and the players arent naive enough to think that they are loved.

i think a lot of our fans think theyre the perfect fan and are always in the right when its them against the club because they helped save the club from extinction but that cant last forever, already we've seen that the honeymoon period for dougie saving us is well and truelly over so the same should apply to the fans.

Fair enough-just one point where I disagree-you say that if you 'give it out, you should be able to take it'. That surely only applies to 'like for like'. The fans have justifiably criticised failure, whereas Rae has blamed them for his failure.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 09:50:40
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 12 2008, 09:38 AM) [snapback]401831[/snapback]
yet you complain about his honesty and that he should have shut his mouth when blaming the fans for the home performances this season?

you cant have it both ways, either the club lies to us to make us feel loved and that everything is rosey or theyre honest and tell it how it is. the club cant win.

the fans expect dougie to see that theres a lot wrong at the club when 99% of the fans think theres nothing wrong with the fans. its a lot easier to see how badly something is looking from the outside in than the inside out.

JM was good enough to take a step outside the box and see that the only thing that could help the club was for him to leave, maybe dougie will be next to do it (take a look from the outside, not leave the club) and then who knows.....maybe the fans might even do it aswell ohmy.gif

There was absolutely no need to mention the fans at all-absolutely none.

Rae has been unable to se that JM is HIS mistake-he clearly had no idea that we muddled through last season and it's come as a shock to him that those boys haven't grasped the chance to take us forward.

He doesn't need to look far for an excuse-the FANS-not him, not JM , not the players, not the fragmented infrastructure at Cappielow with repeated blunders over strips, season tickets, and signings, lies about youth policy and trialists, failure to respond to communication, and an official web site that's never up to date.

NO-the fans are the root of all evil at Cappielow.

He claims that his statement yesterday has the backing of the Board. If that is true, Alistair Donald might as well pack his bags right now!

Frankly I don't believe that for one minute-I'm sure the others are squirming this morning, but at the end of the day it's up to them. They HAVE some say with Rae. The fans have none.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 11:12:05
QUOTE(cmdc @ Feb 12 2008, 09:34 AM) [snapback]401825[/snapback]
People really need to calm down about this 'Rae out' thing unless they can put forward a viable alternative. Managers are 10 a penny - wealthy men willing to throw their hard earned cash at provincial football clubs are not.

Is Rae really a 'wealthy man throwing HIS cash at Morton'?

Morton are indebted to Golden Casket which is comprised of shareholders of which Rae is only one, albeit with the major stake. To the best of my knowledge Rae has not spent a farthing of his own money on the club, and it's also been obvious of late that there has been a rationalisation of spending/lending Golden Casket money.

The viable alternative is for Crawford Rae and Alistair Donald to take over and for father to become Honorary President. Whether they would be excellent, good, or poor, I don't believe they'd ever be worse than what we have at present.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 11:14:38
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 11 2008, 11:53 PM) [snapback]401716[/snapback]
Did you manage to teach the monkey TTG ??

He only sings TTGR!
mortonjag 2008-02-12 11:21:16
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Feb 12 2008, 12:22 AM) [snapback]401732[/snapback]
Can anyone really deny that the players have taken too much abuse from the crowd this season? It's not the biggest factor in our poor home form but it certainly hasn't helped.

Whatever you think about the players being paid professionals who should be able to deal with criticism, it will bring down the level of their performance if they're getting abuse shouted at them from the crowd.

I believe Dougie's wrong about McInally's contribution as manager, he made far too many mistakes. But he's right about the effect abuse from the crowd has on the players.

Yes- but he's highlighting one reaction in a chain and blaming it for the end product.

In the beginning was Rae-he had PLENTY of patience from the fans as he bungled his way out of division three, and stumbled blindly up to the first division with the assistance of a manager who produced some of the most unattractive football and bizarre tactical decisions many have ever seen.

It's only this season that SOME fans have had enough of that, and I agree that abuse of the players does not go unnoticed by them, but it's perfectly clear that blaming his paying customers is behaviour typical of a man whose sanity is in question.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 11:24:17
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 12 2008, 09:26 AM) [snapback]401820[/snapback]
you'd get on with that nice mr stalin as well then biggrin.gif

Uncle Joe-RIP.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 11:33:50
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 12 2008, 09:40 AM) [snapback]401834[/snapback]
OK, I'm not a veteran rae watcher, and to an extent i'm playing devil's advocate here. whilst what you say may be true, it's also clear that rae doesn't want to be in 9th place : the situation isn't one-dimensional.

Seems he's done his best to maintain our abysmal performance if we are to believe all the Shoogly spin.

'It's a shame we're in a results business', he states, as if he had suddenly stumbled on that reality yesterday, but goes on to say he was desperate not to let JM go.

I don't believe a word the man says, and we have had several instances of contradiction from him before. I am still convinced he wanted JM to leave without compensation, but would be very surprised if the 'resignation' was not softened just a little bit with a financial adjustment.

He wasn't exactly going to admit that, when his trump card was to blame the fans, and I incidentally found it absolutely ridiculous that he was wittering on about fantastic training facilities with 'state of the art' heart monitors in the light of successive humpings by presumably less well endowed clubs.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 11:43:20
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 12 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]401851[/snapback]
he blamed us for contributing to his failure, i dont for a second think he thinks we're solely responsible for our home performances. i think he thinks we didnt do anything to help them....which is effectively our role as supporters.

i know i know we were watching pish so why should we support them but some times someone else has to make the first move. we've seen how good those players can play when their adrenaline is pumping and the fans are singing away, apart from clyde on the first day and gretna they never got the slightest bit of support all season.

even in our best performance at home this season against partick we gave them nothing, complete silence. sorry if im not a huge fan of if you play well then we wont boo you and shout abuse but thats all youre getting. its not good enough on our part.

the club is far from perfect from the bottom upwards, the chairman is far from perfect, the players are far from perfect but what some people have to realise is that the fans are far from perfect also.

the only perfect thing we have is our groundsman smile.gif

There are fans and fans port-ton. I've been very disappointed in the dropping attendances and lack of vocal support, but I don't believe any paying fan has a 'duty' to do anything other than act spontaneously, and I still have faith in human nature-if we are given something to enthuse about we WILL enthuse.

Instead of blaming the fans, a wise Chairman would be trying to find out why they were unhappy and doing something about it, but Mr Rae is incapable of ever admitting he's wrong-even to himself, I believe.

mortonjag 2008-02-12 11:46:21 I wouldn't be in the slightest surprised if Rae plans to keep Martin Clark on till the end of the season, knowing that if results still don't improve, he can change his mind at will.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 11:47:51
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 12 2008, 09:40 AM) [snapback]401835[/snapback]
you basically start the same thread over and over again with a different thread title laugh.gif
have a cookie.

I'm on a diet but thanks anyway!
mortonjag 2008-02-12 11:48:41
QUOTE(Scapaflow @ Feb 12 2008, 09:40 AM) [snapback]401837[/snapback]
I think it should be taxi for Mortonjag.

This forum has went downhill again since your return. Thing were peaceful during your time inside tongue.gif

How many threads is that you have now started regarding Rae
Give it a rest

I don't mind your opinion about Rae but it is on every F---ing thread on this forum just about.

Can you limit your opinions about him to one thread so we can read other topics uninterupted.
Mon the Ton

So good you said it twice! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-12 11:59:33
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Feb 12 2008, 10:20 AM) [snapback]401872[/snapback]
Self praise is no praise at all MJ.

As you very well know my asinine friend and tail bearer I was referring to Mr Rae-Chairman of Greenock Morton Football Club, and majority shareholder in Golden Casket from which he has borrowed money to underwrite the presently unprofitable venture.

Perhaps I can also ask you-since you appear to have a particular interest in those matters, to spell out for us the fact that Rae has NOT SPENT A SINGLE PENNY of his own on Morton, and that Golden Casket can call in the loan as and when they please.

I always like my information straight from the horses mouth. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-12 12:04:15
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Feb 12 2008, 10:45 AM) [snapback]401892[/snapback]
Yes he issued new shares but you cannot create wealth by simply issuing shares. If you own one share worth £5 and the company issue 4 new shares you then have 5 shares worth £1 each. The point of the share issue was to reduce the average value per share and to make new shares available for new shareholders.

Why do people always assume that financial restructuring means someone (Dougie?) has their hand in the biscuit sweetie tin. Usually financial restructuring is about sorting a company out - which it was in this case. By converting his loans to shares, Douglas Rae effectively removed from Morton the need ever to repay the loans so converted.

On the statement about fans, maybe it was a bit ill considered but its an emotional time for him. He had a decent relationship with McInally and was losing a friend. He is'nt deaf. He sits in the stand and hears the abuse some people think that they are entitled to dish out because they've paid (usually a concessionary price) to get in. If they get a bit in return, pots, kettles and black spring to mind. Do people really think that their entry money entitles them to throw the vilest abuse at people who for the most part are doing their best? Whatever happened to decency? It is possible to voice your displeasure without questioning peoples parentage or their mother's occupation

I agree and so does DDFR that it was time for McInally to go but that does not mean its not a sad time - a decent guy has lost his job because, having tried his best, he was'nt up to it. That's not a time for celebration, its just a time for moving on!

Forgetting the shares, Tonsilitis, how much is still owed to Golden Casket?
mortonjag 2008-02-12 12:09:53 Rather than speculating about the new manager's identity, I'm far more concerned about the selection process. If it's a free vote by the Board, that'll be a step forward IMO.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 12:17:24
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Feb 12 2008, 12:13 PM) [snapback]401976[/snapback]
Could you enlighten us further about your concerns?

I could!
mortonjag 2008-02-12 12:20:13
QUOTE(nani @ Feb 12 2008, 12:12 PM) [snapback]401974[/snapback]
Having read this forum over the past few days I assume that you are a happy crew now that we are managerless with 12 games to go. With the exception of emergency loans there is little a new manager can do in terms of personnel yet you seem to think that someone new will arrive and that everything will be fine....a somewhat immature blinkered attitude. Some seem to think that Jim Duffy will be the new manager yet some half wit has started a campaign "say no to Duffy".....what are you all about?
You have also been miffed by the fact that the Chairman is having a pop at the fans for their lack of support at home games.....maybe the truth hurts.....our home form is very poor....our away form not so bad. What does that tell you? Coincidence? Or maybe the fact that McInally has been pilloried ever since the play-off defeat to Peterhead. I guess it was only a matter of time before mob rule dictated he would lose his job. Unfortunately a spin off to that may well be that we find ourselves back in the 2nd division...with a chairman less likely to dip into his pocket as he has been to date. Sure mcInally has made mistakes...dont we all....but he did his best despite the vitriolic abuse he and his family have been subjected to both currently and in the past. Yeah he takes responsibility for his mistakes and full credit to him for resigning and not having his mind changed by Mr Rae. Clearly Rae sees the work that McInally has put in on the training field etc....mebbe if he had stayed and kept us up then next season would have seen a big improvement as I am sure he has learnt much about his players and his abilities this season.
However we are now in a very perilous position....it will be a minor miracle if we stay up. There is no doubt in my mind that McInally is the best manager we have had since Rae`s resurrection.....McPherson, Cormack and Cowboy all proved duds.....whose to say that he`ll get it right this time? No doubt it will be all Rae`s fault if we go down....in fact I see threads that it is time for hime to go....so do you know anyone else who would like to incur a debt of £1million and lose £250k per year?
Personally I think we should have been giving 100% support at every home game this season...and supported McInally and the team vociferously. If at the end of the season the team had failed then that would have been the time to change...instead we have had rancour and criticism all season....now find ourselves in the s**t with no leader......but as long as you lot of pri**ks are happy....

You're just in the huff because JM's now at home looking after the weans and Nani's been sacked handed in 'her' resignation.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 12:24:30
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Feb 12 2008, 12:00 PM) [snapback]401964[/snapback]
If you look at the balance sheet of Golden Casket you will see that DDF has "invested" over £2 million in shares of Greenock Morton. You might not say it but it does not alter the truth...

I'm sure most of the fans don't have access to the Golden Casket Accounts tail bearer. Fancy a wee 'cut and paste'?
mortonjag 2008-02-12 12:29:28
QUOTE(Embraton @ Feb 12 2008, 12:17 PM) [snapback]401981[/snapback]
You're forgetting the fans task in all this. There has been no 12th man at Cappielow this season, the atmosphere in the main has been shocking, and all we get from this forum is whingers. The negative attitude is bound to have rubbed off on the manager and the team. DR's points are valid. JM was honourable in leaving to allow a fresh start and take some of the criticism away from the players. It's time for the fans to be honourable and get behind the team instead of feeling like scolded children because DR has hurt their feelings. Get a life and get behind the team or we will go down and then it will be the fans fault!

The fans' task eh!!

'If any of our products fails to satisfy please return it and we will refund the cost in full'

Consumers don't have 'a task' to accept crap for their hard earned cash. It's perfectly clear that the fans have been literally worn out by frustration and disappointment-it won't take much to win them back and that IS the task for Mr Rae.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 12:33:37 wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-12 13:32:16
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 12 2008, 01:21 PM) [snapback]402072[/snapback]
That's what they've been paid to say

OK Ill meet you at 3p.m. outside Cappielow-you'll know me 'cos Il'll be in my Jag with the personalised RAE plate-just a word of warning-I may have to leave sharpish if my father appears.

Now here's the deal-you get £10 up front, a Golden Casket Christmas Selection box, and a signed picture of Nacho Novo.

All you do in return is confirm you've met this Ernie guy who calls himself me-I mean Mortonjag.

By the way, I'm sorry my father made a complete arse of himself yesterday-we were all f*cking fuming, but there's a will to be considered-we pray a lot you know-damn-I'm digressing again-OK three o'clock it is-see ya.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 14:34:15
QUOTE(Waverley @ Feb 12 2008, 01:45 PM) [snapback]402088[/snapback]
Dougie has reportedly gone on a week-long business trip. Not sure if it's sweetie or footie business. Maybe he is doing a world tour, holding interviews for the vacant position. lol. What a time to be away.

Last time he was away on a business trip we humped Gretna in the cup.This MUST augur well for Saturday-no JM AND no Rae-the boys will think they've won the lottery.

C'mon lads!
mortonjag 2008-02-12 14:45:17
QUOTE(princessTON @ Feb 11 2008, 10:25 PM) [snapback]401552[/snapback]
cappie the cat is 5000-1 and mortonjags monkey is 10000/1 tongue.gif

Got to be worth a 5p bet princess! For a start he's already applied in writing (of sorts). Secondly he has all the necessary attributes-obedience, flexibility, an eagerness to please, and the ability to hear no evil, see no evil, and speak no evil.

What I believe will swing it for him, mind you is the salary-he only wants peanuts! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-12 14:53:01
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Feb 12 2008, 02:46 PM) [snapback]402140[/snapback]
This bit is bulls***. He hasn't turned on us, people should f*cking read what the statement says.
He isn't alienating his source of income. The people who are interpriting the statement all wrong, such as yourself, mortonjag and nach0king, and are taking it most to heart, are you really going to stop going to matches?

GG you're being stubborn and flying in the face of fact.

Talking of performances (and remember Jim ultimately went because of poor results) Rae said-''our players seem to have suffered more from the criticism level at home games'.

If ever there was a direct 'cause and result' comment that is it. As I suggested earlier he had a gilt edged opportunity to welcome a new horizon. He did not have to bum Jim up in the ridiculous way he did while blaming the fans for the poor man's departure. I'm fed up hearing excuses for the old clown.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 14:55:40
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Feb 12 2008, 02:46 PM) [snapback]402141[/snapback]
It has. sad.gif and if you are not hearing it in the stand jpmil then be thankful.
The WDE of the Cowshed is slightly better but I might try the stand next season.

Please NO.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 16:10:15
QUOTE(ianton @ Feb 12 2008, 03:33 PM) [snapback]402168[/snapback]
Dougie only deals in sweets so he's f***ed

Oh he'd settle for a foam banana and a sook of one of Shoogly's black striped balls once a week I'm sure.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 16:29:54 I remember '88 well. I was working in Airdrie and there was a spell of smashing car windows and nicking the radios which lasted for months. The local police introduced CCTV to the town centre and the problem went away. Airdrie was the first Scottish town to adopt 'Big Brother' techniques. Oh and about that time I got rid of my Escort RS turbo for a Porsche 944. You hardly see them now and they look utterly dated.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 21:46:17
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 12 2008, 05:43 PM) [snapback]402280[/snapback]
there's just no talking to u is there? your post was nonsense and even though i know you know this i'm aware that you would argue black is white until the death. the poster didn't mention she was a young female (as if that matters) until well after lcm's initial post. so you're talking pish about something which shouldn't be an issue anyway.

jesus christ

I didn't realise you and Narcissus were such close friends forza-that puts you down in my estimation!
mortonjag 2008-02-12 21:48:02
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 12 2008, 07:43 PM) [snapback]402438[/snapback]
no thanks on the hug front.

i've been saying for ages that pms are a bad idea. this one is pretty mild, but i'm sick of getting them from anonymous wanks, male or female.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Obviously that mirror's kiddin' you on Narcissus!
mortonjag 2008-02-12 21:49:57
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 12 2008, 07:44 PM) [snapback]402440[/snapback]
away and shove your rolleyes.gifsnidey patter up your arse, you loathsome reptile.

Not something you'd be acquainted with my son! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-12 21:52:00
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 12 2008, 04:47 PM) [snapback]402221[/snapback]
im sure an alcoholic would give peter weatherson the right attitude to stop enjoying the pints tongue.gif

if these are the candidates that are about like paterson and campbell then please please please get Jim Duffy in now!

Is he not a recovering alcoholic PT?
mortonjag 2008-02-12 21:56:57
QUOTE(floydpink26 @ Feb 12 2008, 05:49 PM) [snapback]402288[/snapback]
Couldnt agree more m8...Im a true fan and i'll take Dougies comments on the chin,Ya give it out plenty to DDFR MJ...So put yer toys back in yer pram

You sound more like a wimp than a true fan.

I'm sure Rae adores myopic fools who still give him credit for reason.

Please try to see the big picture-the man has become a liability and the sooner all TRUE fans are united on the issue, the sooner he's likely to step aside or be pushed aside.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 22:00:48
QUOTE(floydpink26 @ Feb 12 2008, 06:19 PM) [snapback]402331[/snapback]
I really wouldnt mind Super Ro as Manager But i'd prefer Jim Duffy(The Experience with working with various top clubs and his Management skills would be the winning factor for me over Alexander).It ok saying that "Oh Gretna bought there way to the success they had" But at the time when Alexander was in charge he was the 1 that essentialy pick the players to buy and therefore built the squad that gained Gretna success...Now its only common sense that this couldnt have been achived with out the financial backing he got,But he was still the 1 that had to identify and bring the players he did to Gretna and look where he took them.Ill be very disappointed if it isnt 1 of these two who get the Morton job

Also to add...I hope Rowan what ever he does, all the best and that he gets what he is due from Gretna...I've herd that Mileson has said that he'll close the club rather than pay Rowan what he's owed...Interesting times on the Horizon for Gretna,As i feel once they go down they will sink like a stone to the level of a club like.. no disrespect... East Stirling.

Something I predicted three seasons ago. At the time I was attacked and laughed at in exactly the same way as you've just attacked me about Rae.

Mortonjag doesn't do 'Toys and prams'! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-12 22:04:09
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 12 2008, 06:27 PM) [snapback]402350[/snapback]
thats because none of them have our fans.

he had a good relationship with JM and wanted him to stay so obviously he was going to say nice stuff about him.

what it comes down to was JM left and Dougie let him leave purely because of the fans, which i see as a positive rather than a negative. he gave us what we wanted despite not wanting it himself.

That's just where you and most of the others disagree PT-it's because none of them have for Chairman a man who appears to be teetering on the verge of insanity.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 22:05:24
QUOTE(ianton @ Feb 12 2008, 06:11 PM) [snapback]402320[/snapback]
just supply him with a drip feed to the Norseman and he'll be fine.

unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-12 22:09:36
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Feb 12 2008, 07:44 PM) [snapback]402439[/snapback]
Excellent show of dignity by both men.
Get Dougie in the hot seat, now that would be entertainment worth the entrance fee.

Would they allow him to use the microphone?
mortonjag 2008-02-12 22:11:48
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 12 2008, 08:19 PM) [snapback]402461[/snapback]
He's not all he's quacked up to be tongue.gif
Coat !!!!!

laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-12 22:13:23
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 12 2008, 08:20 PM) [snapback]402462[/snapback]
where did you get that idea?
oh yeah. he told us about 395 times. since december.

rolleyes.gif

Can't quite work out if it's jealousy or resentment Narcissus.

Did somebody chop off the wrong goolie? mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-12 22:15:29
QUOTE(nani @ Feb 12 2008, 05:59 PM) [snapback]402302[/snapback]
John Davies? Warren Hawke? Paul Fenwick? Steve Paterson? Quality suggestions from the intelligencia that post on here. Much better than McInally eh? Maybe I was dreaming but I think someone suggested Billy Davies on an interim basis. What planet do you inhabit pal? Same as the buffoons that suggested Neil Warnock awhile ago. Stephen Pressley? Equally ludicrous. Jim Duffy is probably as good as it gets although maybe Shoogly is so irritated with the lot of you that he may inflict Dick Campbell on us....before putting us up for sale in the Summer....any of you got any dough?

Hey nanny-you're not obliged to use big words which you can't spell!
mortonjag 2008-02-12 22:18:02
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Feb 12 2008, 06:42 PM) [snapback]402372[/snapback]
To be fair, Mortonjag hasn't contributed to this thread (yet)! laugh.gif laugh.gif

There, there darling! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-12 22:18:58
QUOTE(nani @ Feb 12 2008, 06:49 PM) [snapback]402378[/snapback]
Sorry Marshy you did come up with Steve Paterson.....alcoholic with two recent disasters behind him. Good shout.

Recovering alcoholic I believe.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 22:21:42
QUOTE(gorkir @ Feb 12 2008, 07:13 PM) [snapback]402422[/snapback]
nobody is saying he's not intelligent
but he's not got the experience of football that Pressley has

My own opinion is that the people that tout Hawke only think he's a hero/legend because he stood up to Scott, (which was great) but he cant be considered a legend for his football ability because other than his first 6 months at Morton he was very much an average player so he cant be considered a legend for that

Jim McInally had tons of experience in football Nanny-Hal Stewart had none.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 22:22:49
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Feb 12 2008, 08:32 PM) [snapback]402474[/snapback]
He's sane for starters.

Won't relate very well to the Chairman then.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 22:27:06
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Feb 12 2008, 05:03 PM) [snapback]402235[/snapback]
This is what this thread is all about:

"It is interesting to note, when examining our performances, that we have won 15 points from away fixtures, the third highest in the league, while at home we have gained the fewest points, only 9 out of a possible 36, this suggests our players appear to have suffered more from the criticism level at home games than when playing in front of our more supportive travelling fan base"

There is very little that is directly offensive in that paragraph (except for the fact that it is an offendingly long sentence!); it is simply stating fact.

As my above post says, I believe that this paragraph could have been left out of the statement, but Dougie (along with an awful lot of supporters) appreciates that the players do seem more nervous at home that when we are away from home. And how many times have folk on here commented on how the atmosphere seems negative at Cappielow unless we are winning?

I don't take it personally at all and I realise that it is just an old chap who is hurting over the fact that an employee with whom he has worked well has resigned under such disappointing circumstances. If the statement upsets you then perhaps you have a guilty conscience.

It was an ill-advised statement that has been over-scrutinized by folk with too much time on their hands. That said, I think it would be wise if Dougie clarified his statement and underlined the fact that the fans have a massive role to play from now until May and that the players need our support. A rallying cry if you will. Also, a bit more interaction from the players (following Jenkins' example on Saturday) would not go amiss.

You should apply to become Gordon Brown's new spin doctor!!!
mortonjag 2008-02-12 22:28:00
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Feb 12 2008, 05:06 PM) [snapback]402238[/snapback]
Great post !

Intelligent and informative comment! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-12 22:29:40
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Feb 12 2008, 05:45 PM) [snapback]402283[/snapback]
I don't think anyone (including Rae) is saying that though.

That is abundantly clear.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 22:32:43
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Feb 12 2008, 07:12 PM) [snapback]402420[/snapback]
Well said Nacho, although that eejit Mortonjag and his clique won't agree with you. laugh.gif laugh.gif

Correct-he doesn't give a toss about JM-the old fool was still just trying to justify his appointment, who would clearly have had us in the SPL and Europe by now if there had been none of those pesky fans to spoil match days.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 22:41:02
QUOTE(cappielow riot @ Feb 12 2008, 09:13 PM) [snapback]402507[/snapback]
Not a poll just a thought. Is dougie being clever? After all, he can call the fans what he likes but the majority will still turn up (give or take a Few hundred) but he still looks like Jims best mate. Result - jimbo leaves of his own accord thus no compensation (is that right?). Alternatively he's completely nuts and needs to get to feck. Successful businessman, being devious, playing politics.....surely not.

Wonder how much its costing for Jim to go

Just an (addled) thought though

laugh.gif

You have a way with words-I like you!
mortonjag 2008-02-12 22:46:25
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 12 2008, 05:30 PM) [snapback]402266[/snapback]
Most people here won't have really sat/stood amongst home fans of other teams that much, so I think the point is moot.

I'd be very, very surprised if Morton were a great dael worse than other fans of a team our size.

I'm not surprised, however, that the club is content to use this as a crutch for the other failings. Even if we are awful fans, it doesn't excuse a lot of what goes on, yet apparently many seem to think that it does.

True. It's not so very long ago that we couldn't even cram into the stand at Methil for that 'cruncher' with E Fife. That day we were as good as any fans get.

It's not the fans who have changed-they have reacted in a perfectly normal way to perfectly abnormal stewardship of OUR club.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 22:49:26
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 12 2008, 07:03 PM) [snapback]402410[/snapback]
I edited in the ohmy.gif smiley, I was trying (badly) to take the piss.

I reckon SmithsTON is a skunk, it's the only plausible explanation at this point.

You're not normally so lavish in your praise.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 22:52:28
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 12 2008, 08:49 PM) [snapback]402487[/snapback]
Eh, I think that was exactly the point Dougies was making, while asking the perfectly legitimate question as to why that should be the case.

To all Ton fans the bottom line is this, if you don't dish out abuse to players then his comments weren't aimed at you so why are you bothered?

If you do dish it out, then be man enough to take it back and stop f***ing winging like a daft wee lassie.

laugh.gif

You accused me of being argumentative!!!

It doesn't matter whether the old clown was trying to transfer the blame for his stupidity in appointing JM onto one or one million fans.

THAT is the point.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 23:02:46
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 12 2008, 10:16 PM) [snapback]402574[/snapback]
He was a Proctologist, but was struck off for making an arse of it. Then he turned to Gynaecology.......... well, you know the rest.

C*nt believe you just said that Mr Edwards!
mortonjag 2008-02-12 23:06:43
QUOTE(El gofer @ Feb 12 2008, 10:18 PM) [snapback]402577[/snapback]
HMMMM.....

Getting rid of a chairman is one thing. Celtic replaced their Chairman. Quinn with Reid.

Our Chairman is our Majority Shareholder and , hence our owner. All the best folks!

Another personal attack there MJ. "On the verge of insanity." For a pedant like yourself, do you have concrete proof of this or is it because of the press release, which most, whether they have agreed with it or not, concede that it had some reason behind it.

Why dont you ask for a wee meeting with Rae? You seem to have a number of ideas for the club. Or even a meeting with Shareholders. Or better still, become a shareholder. Other than that you are just a faceless critic who has made 15000 posts about the subject and done not much else.

a man who appears to be teetering on the verge of insanity.

hate to be pedantic, but it would help your cause if you read first, and talked through your arse later.

That, by the way, IS my considered medical opinion about Rae. I may very well be wrong.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 23:09:34
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 12 2008, 10:39 PM) [snapback]402591[/snapback]
I'm sure he's been accused of that many times. Like every time he bails out the Morton balance sheet, mad he might be.

Golden Casket!
mortonjag 2008-02-12 23:13:22
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 12 2008, 10:30 PM) [snapback]402586[/snapback]
Nanny-Hal? Do you know something about his past predilictions?

At least he goat us somewhere.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 23:15:13
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 12 2008, 09:59 PM) [snapback]402550[/snapback]
I think that Clark will pick the team, insofar as it doesn't pick itself.

unless it contracts chickenpox.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 23:16:45
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Feb 12 2008, 11:04 PM) [snapback]402618[/snapback]
Clark will pick the team. Rae has NEVER picked a Morton team.

hey Dino-you shouldn't make statements like that unless you can substantiate them.

Has he ever 'helped' to pick a team? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-12 23:18:47
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 12 2008, 11:04 PM) [snapback]402616[/snapback]
IYNSHO

Yes!
mortonjag 2008-02-12 23:21:24
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 12 2008, 10:03 PM) [snapback]402553[/snapback]
when you're as ugly as i am, you tend to avoid mirrors. maybe someone as unpleasant as yourself should avoid public forums.

I'm bitterly disappointed-I had this image of you-well I won't go into detail-but let's just say I'm disappointed.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 23:23:37
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 12 2008, 10:58 PM) [snapback]402611[/snapback]
i knew the guy to see many moons ago. that's not the point. you're a freak and i don't care what you think of me.

I don't know you-you are merely a keyboard persona.

Clearly you must have met me at some point-I am truly freakish-not an ex-patient I hope.
mortonjag 2008-02-12 23:27:06
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 12 2008, 11:21 PM) [snapback]402629[/snapback]
and this considered medical opinion is based on how many face to face interviews, mr weasel?

Ever heard of telephone diagnosis you clown. What do you know about the interpretation of signs and symptoms Mr Stoat?
mortonjag 2008-02-13 05:52:26
QUOTE(El gofer @ Feb 13 2008, 12:59 AM) [snapback]402669[/snapback]
huh.gif unsure.gif *shivvers* unsure.gif

I've commented before that Shipman was an amateur.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 05:56:57
QUOTE(CivicTypeR @ Feb 13 2008, 01:54 AM) [snapback]402680[/snapback]
Maybe you should stop being so abusive to people then and they wouldnt send you shoddy pms. Ever thought of that?

Don't be too hard on the Manky Dog- Honda- he's just a bit spoilt and self indulgent. I think when he was a pup Mummy Manky Dog followed him around everywhere with a poop scoop, and he's never quite got over the notion that he can crap on anything he likes.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 06:19:20
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Feb 12 2008, 11:39 PM) [snapback]402642[/snapback]
Can you substatiate that?

I don't doubt that Rae has had a say in some of our signings, but I don't think it was the final say. Take John Maisano for example: Dougie was desperate for John to stay apparently, but McInally did not rate him.

Substantiate a question-obviously not! unsure.gif

In answer to BrIDo though, somebody stated quite clearly recently that Rae had unashamedly told him at Hospitality that he and JM had 'sat down together the previous day and picked the team'.

I can't be bothered doing a search, but recall it was one of our fairly regular (and reliable) posters.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 06:25:03
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 12 2008, 11:48 PM) [snapback]402646[/snapback]
do we actually need a manager?

after all, a few posters have opined that we won promotion in spite of mcinally.

won't our performances now improve by default? rolleyes.gif

Yes-at least on Saturday when I fully expect a victory.

It's a fresh start for the squad, and I understand Rae is 'away on a business trip'.

I hope he finds it therapeutic.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 06:28:18
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 12 2008, 11:29 PM) [snapback]402636[/snapback]
The Rae family is Golden Casket.

laugh.gif

Aha Mr Edwards, of that I'm aware-does the extended Rae family approve of the Godfather's frittering of their hard earned pennies?
mortonjag 2008-02-13 06:29:03
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 12 2008, 11:29 PM) [snapback]402637[/snapback]
yes - have you interviewed mr rae?

Yes!
mortonjag 2008-02-13 06:35:50
QUOTE(El gofer @ Feb 12 2008, 11:44 PM) [snapback]402645[/snapback]
Ok you have dealt with that point, by way of a vague personal slight on me.

What is your response to the other points though? Will you be looking to do something proactive to help our club then? Is it your considered medical opinion that he appears to be on the verge of insanity, or is on the verge of insanity? Surely if this is your considered opinion and you are after all a professional, then this would be benefitting our club to divulge this in person.

You have divulge your perceived opinion on the ailments of our club......... got any realistic suggestion of a cure rather than simply switch of the machine?

I've already stated frequently that Rae should accept an Honorary role and devolve control to his son and Alistair Donald.

Are you honestly going to tell me you didn't know that?

I doubt it.

You come over as another poster who resents my making valid points and asking pertinent questions, and the stock response to someone who has no active clout in GMFC is 'What are you going to do about it'?

I'm doing everything I bloody well can Gofer, and it's my belief that those who cling on to the notion that Rae is still good for the club are actually doing their fellow fans a disservice.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 06:37:57
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 12 2008, 11:49 PM) [snapback]402647[/snapback]
It doesn't need to be that way. Its 'Bad Pub syndrome', where a landlord has no manners, smells of BO, sells crap beers and cleans the glasses with his groggers, and has the cheek to complain that his business is doing poorly.

Not passing comment on our esteemed chairmans personal hygiene here, but the lesson is get the product that people want right and they'll be back for more.

I like your style, and there is a 'cheapskate' element about the Rae dynasty-of that I'm in no doubt.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 06:39:47
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 13 2008, 12:00 AM) [snapback]402651[/snapback]
You may be missing my point. Being more customer friendly in the lower divisions won't stem the losses. Morton will continue to make losses until such time it gains promotion to the SPL. Until such time, we'll need a sugar daddy to sustain us. And I'm sure a lot of folk might think he's mad to be doing this.

That's a circular argument DE. If it hadn't been for his megalomanic illness we'd have been in the SPL some time ago.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 06:41:37
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Feb 13 2008, 12:36 AM) [snapback]402666[/snapback]
I don't think it is reasonable to comment on whether or not we need a "sugar daddy" or not until the club is ran like a proper business with regards to merchandising, marketing and public relations to name but a few aspects- that's without even getting into the footballing side of things. That GMFC isn't running at anywhere near it's maximum potential in terms of generating revenue should be blatantly obvious to anyone, hopefully Mr Donald will make moves very quickly to address that in his role of "overview".

Agreed and if Mr Donald has any real power Rae will be wheeled into the conservatory to enjoy the sun.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 06:44:22 A new manager can be appointed on a performance basis-contract till the season's end and renewable by mutual consent. I'd certainly give Duffy a shot on that basis.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 06:48:14
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 13 2008, 12:05 AM) [snapback]402656[/snapback]
Can't believe how some on this thread slated and berated Alexander and are now saying he's a nice guy and is just what we need.

FFS if you're going to make statements about Managers at least be consistent !!!

Consistency would spoil the mischief for 75% of or posters Willow! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-13 07:40:57 CONFIDENTIAL medical records are being revealed by some Inverclyde GPs, it was claimed today.

Patients�€™ histories, stretching back up to 15 years, are sent to other health professionals who don�€™t need to see them, the Tele has been told.

GPs referring patients to physiotherapists, for example, are sending out full computerised records containing details about abortions, attempted suicides and drug problems.

These comprehensive details are also sent to occupational therapists, podiatrists, dieticians and orthoptists, who fit surgical shoes.

One of the health professionals said: �€œGiving out all this sensitive information is totally unnecessary and could be very embarrassing for patients.

�€œThere is no way you need to know all this if you�€™re treating someone�€™s sore leg.

�€œOnly certain GPs are doing it. This has only started since computerisation came in. Some GPs can�€™t be bothered sifting through the information and taking out the stuff that has absolutely no relevance to the treatment we are being asked to give.

�€œThis information is also being seen by non-medical people, such as health centre receptionists. I think the public would be appalled if they knew what was going on.

�€œWith the best will in the world, it is difficult not to let this influence your opinion of the person you are treating.�€�

Greenock and Inverclyde MSP Duncan McNeil said he was �€˜very concerned�€™ to hear the allegations.

He said: �€œWe must get assurances that such information is being given for appropriate medical consultations.

�€œThe health board needs to make a clear statement about how, when and for what reason medical records are passed on. People will have less confidence in the system where they believe such sensitive information is being passed on totally unnecessarily.�€�

A spokeswoman for NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde said: �€œAll professionals working within the NHS adhere strictly to the highest standards of patient confidentiality.

�€œThis is not only a legal requirement but also a matter of professional ethics, strongly supported by regulatory systems.

�€œFurthermore, our staff, whether clinical or administrative, always deliver the highest standards of care and any social judgments others might make are completely irrelevant in these circumstances.

�€œTo suggest otherwise is not only offensive to these hard-working professionals, but also to those patients for whom they care.

�€œHealth records are routinely shared among staff from different disciplines within the NHS and this has always been the case.

�€œAdministrative staff have always been responsible for transferring and sharing medical records.

�€œThis process has been made safer and even more robustly protected through medical records now being stored electronically.

�€œIt is disappointing that the health professional who outlined their concerns to you did not raise them with local managers in the first instance.


Earth shattering news in the 'tilly'.

Imagine medical receptionists being able to see patients notes! Well bless my soul!

The truth is that those other 'Health Professionals' have clamoured for more information and more say in patient care for years.

Now , when they are sent confidential information on a confidential basis, their wee lips are tripping them because they haven't the wit to tease out the relevant stuff. G.P's are FAR too busy to do that for them.

Take it or leave it, and more importantly, if you can't handle sensitive clinical information discreetly, stop conning people with the term 'Health Professional'.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 07:55:36
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Feb 13 2008, 07:50 AM) [snapback]402703[/snapback]
The Chairman's statements have become a thing of legend in a car crash sort of way. If he needs to find a reason for our miserable season then he needs look no further than the following:

'I was disappointed to note from the unofficial message board that the Club was being criticised for lack of effort and lack of ambition because we have not yet made any close season signings. Isn’t it disappointing to note that the ‘negativity boys’ are at it again? They are never happier than when they have a good old moan. Thankfully the majority of our support has greater trust and confidence in the management of our Club than some of the correspondents of the unofficial message board’!.........we believe that we have an excellent pool of players at Cappielow and, having led the league last year from day one until promotion was achieved, we also believe that the guys who took us up have thus earned the chance to play in Division One. ......Do you not think that these same lads deserve to lead us into the 1st Division?'

The Chairman was talking bollox then as even a blind man could see that our championship winning side had glaring defficiencies both in playing and managerial staff. There were a number of our lads who were never going to make the grade at Div 1 and most of us knew this (apart from those that mattered). The chairman can point the finger at fans as much as he likes but ultimately he and his management team are entirely responsible for the current predicament we are in and the atmosphere at Cappielow.

For what it's worth I have no confidence or trust in the Chairman, and his comic opera martinet outburst is just another feeble attempt to shift responsibility from where it really belongs.

Seems he's been upsetting others too!!!


By Roger Graham

IT would have been easier to break out of Colditz than to get any comment from Morton yesterday regarding the future of manager Jim McInally.

When the news did finally break, it came via an emailed statement to the Telegraph mirroring that which later appeared on the club website, giving no opportunity for any points to be raised.

It leaves unanswered questions, most pressingly who will take charge of the team at Dundee on Saturday.

The Ton boss had been in talks yesterday with chairman Douglas Rae following the weekend home defeat by Clyde which plummetted the club down into second bottom place in the table.

Repeated calls were not returned and at 3.15pm the Telegraph was finally told that Mr Rae was off on a week’s business trip with no comment to make.

Nor was anyone else contactable. Finally, a call was received informing the paper that a statement would appear on the club’s official website. At the same time an email was sent to the Telegraph with a copy of that statement.




More superb PR Shoogly-biting off the hand that feeds you?
mortonjag 2008-02-13 08:02:01
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 13 2008, 07:52 AM) [snapback]402704[/snapback]
oh the ironic banter biggrin.gif

laugh.gif

There is no irony at all Darling Trumpet-I do crap frequently (careful with my diet) but my targets are selected.

Certain posters are supremely keechotropic. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-13 08:06:34
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 13 2008, 07:45 AM) [snapback]402701[/snapback]
An Owl outside your window all night is bad enough, twiting and woo'ing all night but when the local one has a fecking stutter, it drives you mad all night.
Tw'Tw'Tw'Tw'Tw'Twit, to woooooo

All night long hardly got a wink of sleep.
Boss expect me doing nothing today, and be a grumpy as a woman with PMT

Sean, don't get yourself in a flutter
Your boss may suspect you're a nutter
He'll think it's pure sh1te
That you've been up all night
Because of an owl with a ssssssstutter.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 08:12:06
QUOTE(piehutt @ Feb 13 2008, 07:46 AM) [snapback]402702[/snapback]
I think Paterson is a decent manager, albeit he's never spent much time out of the highlands, but again far too many questionmarks over his personal issues.

Therefore, can't see it happening.

Paterson will need to join a club as a coach and prove he is over his problems before he could get a managers job again.

His problems will always be there. That doesn't mean he won't stay sober for the rest of his life.

I imagine though, that even a Quaker would be driven to drink if he joined the cast of the Shoogly Show.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 08:14:45
QUOTE(cappielow riot @ Feb 13 2008, 08:11 AM) [snapback]402711[/snapback]
You should see me when I'm drunk.

on reflection I'll go for the latter. When you have 'Turmoil at Cappielow' headlines the finger can only be pointed in one direction...the top.

And I know what position my finger is held in too! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-13 08:52:08
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 13 2008, 08:41 AM) [snapback]402717[/snapback]
what did he make of your thesis, and what do you think he made of you?

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I was merely one of several interviewers Trumpet-I only had the opportunity to ask one question, the answer to which he completely evaded by changing the subject!

Seriously though, are you aware that there are several extremely sophisticated computer programmes aimed at establishing the causes of illness?

Particularly in the field of psychiatry, they can be incredibly accurate.

Thus a collection of observations of behaviour made and reported by third parties with no medical expertise, can be used to provide a probable diagnosis.

I'm sure that even you will agree when I say we have a plethora of clues and information about Mr Rae!
mortonjag 2008-02-13 08:57:48
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 13 2008, 08:49 AM) [snapback]402724[/snapback]
The Escort looks very dated (it was pretty dated even in 88!) but the 944 still looks pretty good. and isn't the idea of Porsches looking dated a bit ironic when you consider that their top of the range ones are descended from the 1963 911 and up till recently looked very similar to that model?

I actually prefer the look of a ten to fifteen year old 911-the models with the flared rear arches look very mean and purposeful.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 08:59:28
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 13 2008, 08:57 AM) [snapback]402726[/snapback]
Ach well, it takes one to know one. wink.gif

You'd know then.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 09:09:13
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 13 2008, 09:03 AM) [snapback]402730[/snapback]
yes, makes you wonder whether this is a tribute to the field of artificial intelligence or a side-swipe at the medical profession wink.gif

and you do know that one of the challenges of AI is to create a prgram whose responses are indistinguishable from those of a human being rolleyes.gif

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We should sign a computer as manager-mind you Shoogly won't even pay for a defibrillator, so perhaps not!
mortonjag 2008-02-13 10:38:00
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 13 2008, 10:33 AM) [snapback]402756[/snapback]
The Escort RS Turbo, in particular the Series 1, is considered a classic now. A good one can sell for up to £7k.

Porsches are just gay.

I'd agree that boxters are common and effeminate-I'd not describe them as 'Gay'.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 10:41:27
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 13 2008, 09:29 AM) [snapback]402734[/snapback]
i dont care enough about the situation to waste my time doing that, this has been a complete non-event blown completely out of proportion by some fans reading between the lines and coming up with " dougie blames fans for us being s*** " just because they dont like him.

i dont like him as a chairman and think he has made a lot more mistakes than he's done good things and i have plenty more things to attack him on than having to put a spin on his words in a statement thanking JM for his work.



But that's the WHOLE point PT-he spun it as though JM was a brilliant man AND manager who would have succeeded but for the evil fans. If you can't see that, fair enough, but even the tabloids took that connotation from his statement.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 10:46:04
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 13 2008, 09:45 AM) [snapback]402739[/snapback]
alex williams was a p***k but a decent footballer, i bet your opinion of him changed due to his personal problem of being a p***k.

i wouldnt hire a manic depressive, mentally ill serial killer to babysit my children (when i have them), but of course thats descrimatory because it doesnt change how good a babysitter they are.

People with bi-polar illness rarely become serial killes PT! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-13 10:47:42
QUOTE(cmdc @ Feb 13 2008, 09:48 AM) [snapback]402740[/snapback]
To discuss team selection could mean a lot of things, not necessarily active meddling. I'd be surprised if McInally, or any Morton manager for that matter, was ever forced to play a player against his will, or in a position at Rae's choosing. Which is what Romanov insists upon Hearts coaches.

I wouldn't.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 10:48:57
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 13 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]402742[/snapback]
even if he is, spending the next three years at least in greenock is going to put a stop to that!

Spending three days with Rae-more like!
mortonjag 2008-02-13 10:53:34
QUOTE(El gofer @ Feb 13 2008, 10:14 AM) [snapback]402749[/snapback]
MJ, you obviously have me down as some sort of Rae apologist. Far from it. I will say that I wont look at every single minute detail of his steardship though. If you have said previously, and sorry I havent read all your posts so forgive me for missing your campaign to have DDFR put in an honorary role, then fair enough.
Its just not the angle I thought you would take.
Also I am not privvy to the sterling work you are doing behind the scenes for Morton Football Club, so again forgive me for not knowing you were trying your best.

Thanks for that-it's perhaps slightly excessive to describe my 'behind the scenes' work as 'sterling'-surely you weren't attempting to be sarcastic-but you are correct in believing that I have the best interests of the Club at heart.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 10:58:15
QUOTE(jpmil @ Feb 13 2008, 10:17 AM) [snapback]402751[/snapback]
I've never Boo'd Morton but this season has seen me, through total frustration, walk out of Cappielow before the final whistle. The standard of play has been shocking and not helped in any way by JM's continual footering with "tactics" and wierd and incomprehensible substitutions.
Under the "new man" whoever he turns out to be things can hardly get any worse than under JM.
If, and I say if, we go down then let's go down with the "correct" Manager for a quick return to Div.1

I'm utterly confident we won't go down now. We have a fresh start and that should generate enough impetus within the squad and fans to at least keep us afloat.

It IS, however, extremely ironic that Rae claimed publicly he wanted JM to stay.

I have a feeling it was not nearly so simple.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 11:02:34
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 13 2008, 10:56 AM) [snapback]402774[/snapback]
his words were misguided, or rather the way he worded it but it left it open to mis-interpratation. it would probably have been best if he'd said nothing at all since he knows how fragile our fans are when it comes to everything going onat the club the last couple of years but i dont have a problem with what he actually said.

it may be more noticable but it doesnt matter really how many people do it, if the players cant hear it at away games before theyre further from the pitch or something then its not an issue, theres no difference between shouting it and them not hearing it than me turning to my mate and saying it.

the fact is at home they can hear everything shouted at them from the cowshed because the whole ground is ghostly silent with the exception of some away fans.
you make me tingle in a way i havent felt since before my Uncle John who used to babysit me died.

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you were abooooosed?
mortonjag 2008-02-13 11:08:10
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 13 2008, 10:50 AM) [snapback]402770[/snapback]
well it was a tribute to JM for his hard work so its hardly going to be scathing. he also said that we hadnt picked up many points lately home or away , and he didnt blame that on the fans...which meant he must have blamed it on the manager and the players.

the tabloids took it as an attack after seeing fans reactions on this site, football phone in's etc.

do you really think that if no fan had made a big deal about this then theyd have the headline " chairman has a blast at fans? "

you give tabloid newspapers far too much credit, they get 80% of their info from fans, 10% from clubs and 10% from " sources " .

and all he said was that JM felt the only way the fans would start to support the players again was if he left....WHICH IS TRUE!.

So in summation of your multiple posts, you think Rae did not mean to insult or upset the fans, and you do not believe he was blaming them for poor form.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 11:17:47
QUOTE(Kekkoman @ Feb 13 2008, 11:07 AM) [snapback]402782[/snapback]
As in Gordon Ramsay? Dont see how he would be better than dougie Rae. Apart from the obvious, his money, he would not improve anything. He would no doubt meddle just as much, probably more, and he doesnt have anywhere near the love for the club that Mr Rae has

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Ramsay's success is down to effective delegation. He keeps his finger on the pulse, and kicks ass where required, but he knows how to let folks get on with their jobs.

Mr Rae's 'love for the club' is one of those throw away phrases which people buy into mindlessly.

Define the 'Club'-is it the stadium, the squad , the fans, or perhaps a combination of all three?

I accept that Rae is a lifelong Morton supporter with a wee bit more cash than most of us. That put him in a position to save the 'Club' from extinction. Many of us may have done the same had we been equally well endowed.

If Rae 'loves the club', he certainly appears to hold its lifeblood-the fans- in scant regard.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 11:21:30
QUOTE(bonzo @ Feb 13 2008, 10:45 AM) [snapback]402763[/snapback]
I remember prior to the brick phones when kn*b ends used to walk round with a phone and battery about the size of a car battery. Doon in London for Scotland game, in the pub and this bozzo walks in we one of these monstrosities giving it the buy, buy buy, byebye crap.

I says to him i bet you canna ring my grannie on that phone, to which he replys i can ring anywhere in the world, do business any where in the world. Tell me her number and you can talk to her, and you tell her you are using a mobile phone, to which he gets the reply f*ck aff she's deed.

To which this plonkers mooth draps, an he buggers aff.

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mortonjag 2008-02-13 12:29:42
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 13 2008, 11:04 AM) [snapback]402781[/snapback]
its only abuse if you dont enjoy it.

That's highly debatable!!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-13 12:33:57
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 13 2008, 11:21 AM) [snapback]402798[/snapback]
He didn't spin it that way at all Mortonjag, it's just your hyper sensitive and/or paranoid auld napper that choses to interpret it that way.

My interpretation is very different. I think he genuinely likes and respects Jim, and was giving him a 'reference' to help him find something else as soon as possible. I actually think that was a pretty decent of Dougie to do that, given that for all his failings as a manager Jim is still a fellow human being with a family to feed and bills and a mortgage to pay the same as most folk on here.

And he makes a wee comment that maybe, just maybe, some fans didn't help him or the team by the way they verbally abuse the players, and all of the sudden these same people turn from being passionate football fans into delicate wee souls who weep and wail on here like pathetic wee school lassies.

Some folk on here really need to grow some baws have a word with themselves.

Eh-because they disagree with YOUR opinion-FFS man you're just Shoogly in disguise! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-13 12:36:25
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 13 2008, 11:33 AM) [snapback]402803[/snapback]
i know he didnt mean to insult or upset the fans, and i believe he said we contributed to our poorer home form than away form.

i believe the words he used werent put too wisely because they can be spun to look like an attack on the fans by people who already dislike him and as we've seen on here when it comes to chairman, manager or players if someone has a dislike for someone then no matter if they ever do anything good they will never get any credit for it and are always looking for an excuse to have a go at them.

Good God-YOU'RE the mole Port Ton-I'd never have believed that. Does he wear pyjamas or a nightgown?

I KNOW he doesn't go to bed naked!
mortonjag 2008-02-13 12:50:54
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 13 2008, 12:43 PM) [snapback]402827[/snapback]
i'll see you in court then tongue.gif

SSSHHHH please! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-13 12:55:25 Nobody seems toknow what to make of Rowan. Forgetting his great playing days, he's courted controversy ever since he entered management. Irrespective of 'personal problems' he may or may not have, he certainly comes over as a volatile character who upset several players at Gretna-maybe they deserved that-I don't know.One thing's for sure-he and Mileson ended up 'hating each others guts'.

I just can't see Rae appointing him.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 14:29:59
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 13 2008, 01:01 PM) [snapback]402841[/snapback]
Nope, wrong again mortonjag, it's because if you're big enough to shout abuse at players then you should be big enough to take a gentle wee dig from an elderly gentleman on the chin without starting polls and winging like a greetin' faced wein.

Firstly Sir-I categorically NEVER shout abuse at players, but I respect the right of paying customers to express displeasure if they wish. Mr Rae pays stewards and Policemen /women to deal with it if it's unreasonable.

Secondly, your interpretation of his outburst as a 'wee dig' might fairly be described as one side of the argument, and my take that Rae is an improvident old clown getting his own back on those whom in his paranoid state he believes have brought us down (rather than his inept manager), is the other.

We are both equally entitled to our opinions.

Even the results of an (in my opinion) poorly worded poll indicate that the majority believes Shoogly was wrong,and the question was simply of whether or not he was correct to berate the fans.

What concerns me is that he has, in my utterly humble opinion, betrayed his true feelings towards us-and he clearly sees an 'us and them'.

This is far from the first time he has opened his mouth and let his belly rumble. Frankly I doubt if the man has the wit to know what a 'gentle dig' is.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 14:36:04 'Fraid I don't really have any strong opinion either way-first time I've not been able to vote in a poll! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-13 15:34:34
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 13 2008, 02:47 PM) [snapback]402880[/snapback]
you've portrayed your true feelings towards him though, and you clearly see an ' us and them '

thats like the kettle calling the pot racist.

I'm not sure that I understand where you're coming from PT. I've never attempted to disguise my 'true feelings' about Mr Rae's behaviour. In what way does that justify his behaviour?
mortonjag 2008-02-13 15:36:10
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Feb 13 2008, 03:03 PM) [snapback]402883[/snapback]
New Manager - How Will He Be Decided?
By dictatorship. rolleyes.gif (remember he must meet the five point plan)

My worry too.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 15:39:12
QUOTE(Jackie @ Feb 13 2008, 03:37 PM) [snapback]402905[/snapback]
Names down on a bit of paper, tossed into a hat and one shall be pulled out randomly.

Name!
mortonjag 2008-02-13 22:03:25
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Feb 13 2008, 04:23 PM) [snapback]402935[/snapback]
Manky, you have a PM mate.

TonInDublin

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mortonjag 2008-02-13 22:06:21
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 13 2008, 05:34 PM) [snapback]402966[/snapback]
Jesus, 14,404 posts of complete nonsense. I suppose it's possible if you have the time.

Thank you kind Sir-it's merely a matter of apportioning ones time-this forum is for general nonsense-the other is for private concerns.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 22:16:06
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Feb 13 2008, 03:10 PM) [snapback]402886[/snapback]
Informative comment! thanks rolleyes.gif *sighs*

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Blind as ever you clot-your poll is fatally flawed and you can't see it! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-13 22:17:29
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Feb 13 2008, 03:59 PM) [snapback]402919[/snapback]
Who is a great manager? mellow.gif Alex Mcleish? Walter Smith? Capello? Murhino? Ferguson?

Are there any "great managers" available to anyone outside the elite?

The best manager I remember at Morton was Benny Rooney but I dont know if he was good because the team was or vice versa.

Hal Stewart WAS a great manager-pity the children don't remember him.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 22:25:24
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 13 2008, 03:46 PM) [snapback]402912[/snapback]
so he should attempt to disguise his true feelings for the fans?

if the fans have the right to dislike him and shout about it from the rooftops then he has the right to dislike us.

if someone disliked me i would have no problem telling them i disliked them back.

where im coming from is that he's said about you (collective you) exactly the same thing as you said about him, but you expect him not to get offended by it but its okay for you to be.

STOP IT!

I don't give a f*ck if Rae is daft enough to grump at the fans-that's NOT the point.

What I resent is that he's tried to transfer BLAME.

HE is to blame-nobody else-if he'd got us to the SPL and we were doing OK I'd imagine complaining fans would deserve everything they got.

This is ENTIRELY different.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 22:28:20
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Feb 13 2008, 03:57 PM) [snapback]402916[/snapback]
I eagerly await the cloud of smoke drifting out of Cappielow to signify the appointment of the next lamb for slaughter.

(not to be confused with the pall of smoke coming from a burnt oot motor in Carwood Street)

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mortonjag 2008-02-13 22:36:54 There is not the remotest chance that Rae will appoint a character like Rowan Alexander.

Say what you like about the guy-he is not a mouse.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 22:38:08
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 13 2008, 09:07 PM) [snapback]403088[/snapback]
Oh FFS give the guy a break. sad.gif

WHY-he's not given us one for several years!
mortonjag 2008-02-13 22:39:11
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 13 2008, 09:13 PM) [snapback]403092[/snapback]
it wouldn't surprise me if he's in the huff. i remember hearing years ago that he had never sacked any workers from golden casket, so it's probably a big deal to the guy that a favoured employee - i know - had to go.

i'm sort of fascinated to know how long dougie can take this level of criticism. i'm not worried that he'll sell us down the river because he is a mortonian through and through, but i am a wee bit worried about what this must be doing to his health. i hope crawford isn't taking on his dad's seige mentality, because he's likely the next in charge, and i wouldn't like him to blame us for dougie's loss of innocence and whatever might follow, etc.

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mortonjag 2008-02-13 22:41:40
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Feb 13 2008, 09:21 PM) [snapback]403103[/snapback]
So what if he's abroad, i believe modern technology allows you to keep in touch with people in different countries these days. dry.gif

Rae and modern technology are somewhat contradictory-ask the First Aiders at Cappielow, and pray it's not you next for that 'hearty'.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 22:49:06
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Feb 13 2008, 08:28 PM) [snapback]403064[/snapback]
Exactly what JM was/is,a decent young coach, not yet a manager.
The more I think about it, the more I think he was hung out to dry, which is the real shame. sad.gif

JM may yet succeed-a nice, but too nice guy whom Rae saw coming a mile off.

I already feel very sorry for his successor.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 22:53:37
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Feb 13 2008, 08:19 PM) [snapback]403057[/snapback]
Hmmm !!!

Not real fans ? No great loss IMO.



C dry.gif learly demonstrating the worth of your opinion!
mortonjag 2008-02-13 22:59:08
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Feb 13 2008, 09:10 PM) [snapback]403089[/snapback]
Dougy has only expressed a view which has been raised many times on here over the years - that the atmosphere is better at away games , than at home. And surprise surprise, the players are aware of this too.

Dougy wouldn't be my first choice guest at a dinner party but he's surely entitled to express an opinion ? If he has deeply offended any of yer mates Barbarossa , I'm sorry , but they should get over themselves and continue to support the team.

PersonallyI don't care if Dougy re coups every penny that he put into Morton ( and then some) because I will Never forget that he was the one to step in with his dosh in the first place , at a time when there wasn't exactly a long queue of millionaires fighting to save us.

Rae has blamed the home fans for poor form and praised JM in the same breath-he will NEVER admit he's wrong, he will NEVER change, and IMO he's made an utter fool of himself again.

Why people keep making excuses for this well nigh octogenarian buffoon defeats logic.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 23:03:47
QUOTE(BishopTon @ Feb 13 2008, 06:18 PM) [snapback]402985[/snapback]
As i have already stated on this forum before, I was in Hospitality at the QOS game at the beginning of the season. When speaking to me Douglas Rae openly stated that he sat down with Jim on the Friday and picked the team, he said things like we decided to drop Templeman and play Russell. There was in no way any ambiguity.

Sorry but Rae always has the last word...open your eyes people.....Morton is his Championship Manager(he's too old for PC games and has too much money)

TY-I was sure somebody had provided that information before.

Be prepared to be called a liar! laugh.gif

Sorry I hadn't read Smiffy's post-seems you already have!
mortonjag 2008-02-13 23:09:14
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Feb 13 2008, 10:02 PM) [snapback]403151[/snapback]
I hope you're correct, mj.

If we had a manager in place before the opening of the last transfer window I'd have been more confident. As it stands we have to soldier on with what we've got - that includes a squad with no full-backs, no cover at centre half and an attack that can't buy a goal.

I genuinely fear we could finish in the automatic relegation spot so this appointment is possibly the most crucial in Morton's recent hsitory.

I think with JM gone and a 'newcomer' in the dugout (I won't be at all surprised if Clark is kept on for quite a while though), players like Smith and Jenkins will be able to take more initiative. Jenkins was already showing signs of true leadershipn Saturday.

Dundee will be knackered after last night. I fully expect a point at least.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 23:25:01
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 13 2008, 09:47 PM) [snapback]403126[/snapback]
I really don't think we have covered ourselves in glory this week, have we?

Firstly the joyous reaction when Jim resigned was disappointing to say the least. I don't think many folk would argue that it wasn't time for Jim to go, but he did the honourable thing. Easy for folk to say he should have done it long ago, but he's got a family to support and this wasn't just some kind of hobby for him, it was his livelihood. He may have had many shortcomings as a manager, but I've absolutely no doubt he always done his best.

It would have been nice if a few more of us could at least have had the humility to recognise that a decent bloke had lost his livelihood, and taken a bit of time to wish him well in the future before popping the champagne corks.

Then came the completely over-the-top reaction to Dougie's comments. I mean, come on to f***, just how sensitive do you have to be to be upset by that? Couldn't you just have accepted that he was probably upset that someone he really liked and admired as a person had resigned. I'm sure Dougie knew Jim's time was up as much as anybody - he admitted as much in the statement - but it still couldn't have been easy for the old boy. Grow up people.

No doubt I'll get a pasting for this but I think it had to be said.

Oh the pain-how many matches have you been at this season? I assure you WE have suffered.

Analogy

A terribly, terribly, terribly nice and decent surgeon has just managed to kill off half of his operating list in the last year. Because he's so terribly, terribly nice, and has a wife and family to support, and always does as he is bid, despite offering to go, he is persuaded by the head Consultant to stay on.

In the next three months he ends up killing 75% of all who arrive at his table-bereaved relatives are baying for his head on a plate, but still the Chief Consultant wants to hang onto this lovely, lovely man.

Eventually he does the honourable thing and resigns. The relatives are mightily relieved-some are even happy.

The Chief consultant makes a public statement to the effect that only when those bloody relatives started making so much fuss did his performance suffer, and that he had had state of the art operating facilities, and was a wonderful and honourable man.

Wake up and smell le cafe, CHC.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 23:28:04
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Feb 13 2008, 10:07 PM) [snapback]403165[/snapback]
Can't really argue with the paragraphs relating to JM, but in reality thats life. People lose their jobs everyday and they sink or swim. Sales folk dont meet targets and get punted if they aint performing. Im JM's case he is well thought on in the coaching community so i dont think he'll be signing on to long.

Dougie wears his heart on his sleeve like a lot of the supporters on here. He's said his bit and we've said ours. Thats what makes life exciting, all the different opinions.

But he needs to realise we the paying punters are as important to our club as he is to it. We've all been in this picture before, many times. Things will settle when the new guy comes onboard, as long as its no Duffy!

Candidate for amusing quote of the year.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 23:30:23
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 13 2008, 10:46 PM) [snapback]403222[/snapback]
Frankly nach0, I'd be absolutely astounded if even one single person stayed away because of what he said.

I think anyone who has claimed that they would will have calmed down by now and realised they were just being a tit.

I just can't imagine an grown adult being so sensitive.

Especially one in his late seventies with a position to uphold.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 23:38:24
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 13 2008, 11:15 PM) [snapback]403251[/snapback]
you can't really believe that, surely?

aren't you a psycho or something? or read a book about it perhaps?

Trumpet-despite everything I've learned, I still never cease to be amazed at human gullibility.

Having said that, when I started to criticise Rae, only about 5% of posters agreed wiith me, so I guess there may be hope!
mortonjag 2008-02-13 23:40:08
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 13 2008, 11:32 PM) [snapback]403265[/snapback]
why, is one them deid then, mr pot? biggrin.gif

Are you drunk,or just tired Mr Kettle-perhaps both! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-13 23:43:49
QUOTE(cmdc @ Feb 13 2008, 10:43 PM) [snapback]403218[/snapback]
I thought there was a defib at Cappielow, no? That the club doctor carried it with him?

According to the last report from the First Aiders Rae has steadfastly refused to purchase a defib despite recommendations from the SFA.

The 'club doctor' is effectively just a GP enjoying the junketry of a match day. I recall quite clearly when Alex Walker was injured recently he ambled on with his little bag-no evidence of a defib there.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 23:45:27
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 13 2008, 11:43 PM) [snapback]403270[/snapback]
I haven't been at any matches this season, and I'm absolutely sure you have 'suffered' (subjectively of course, I'm sure there are millions of people living in 3rd world shanty towns who would consider your suffering to be rather insignificant, but I digress).

That was a terrible analogy, BTW.

In what respect was it a terrible analogy-you're not usually so brief-care to expand?
mortonjag 2008-02-13 23:46:57
QUOTE(leyTON @ Feb 13 2008, 10:35 PM) [snapback]403198[/snapback]
i was going to read that story in the tele
but then i realised there was a duncan mcniel connection so i didnt

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mortonjag 2008-02-13 23:49:00
QUOTE(standman @ Feb 13 2008, 11:23 PM) [snapback]403256[/snapback]
Knock Knock

Who's there ?

Too witta

Too witta who ?

I didn't know you were an owl !!

Knock knock


Who's there?



Lydia



Lydia who



Lydia Kettle
mortonjag 2008-02-13 23:53:24
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 13 2008, 11:46 PM) [snapback]403274[/snapback]
Since 2001 perhaps? But then that was a break and a half.

Won't you come into my parlour said the spider to the fly!
mortonjag 2008-02-13 23:55:07
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 13 2008, 11:50 PM) [snapback]403278[/snapback]
first logic, now gullibility, cassandra.

BTW - is your partner on nights
?

Take it yours is.
mortonjag 2008-02-13 23:58:21
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 13 2008, 11:50 PM) [snapback]403279[/snapback]
It's just that comparing a football manager to a surgeon is just, well, daft really.

You wanted Jim to go, he's gone.

You want Dougie to go, well he's no spring chicken now is he, so you shouldn't have to wait too long I shouldn't think before he either croaks it or hands over the reins to someone else. Let's all hope when you get your wish we get someone better, eh.

I believe the analogy holds good, and you have not explained why it's 'daft'.

I assume from your other sentence that you want to retain the status quo.

mortonjag 2008-02-13 23:59:47
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 13 2008, 11:54 PM) [snapback]403286[/snapback]
that's some chat-up line wub.gif

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mortonjag 2008-02-14 00:16:57
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 14 2008, 12:03 AM) [snapback]403295[/snapback]
FOR SALE

One golden straw, slightly soiled. Several owners since new.

Apply within.

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mortonjag 2008-02-14 00:20:08
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 14 2008, 12:05 AM) [snapback]403296[/snapback]
It's 1am here so my explanation as to why your analogy is daft will have to wait till another day.
In the absence of a credible alternative, yes.

If however you know of a philanthropic Morton supporting millionaire who'd be willing to do a better job, please tell him to come forward and make Dougie an offer.

Ha ha-'I'm no playin'-off to beddy baws then. God bless.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 00:22:02
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 14 2008, 12:11 AM) [snapback]403298[/snapback]
It's 1:10am here, I don't know what I mean any more.

Night all.

Mon the Ton
.

Will somene tell the poor c*nt it's only Thursday!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 00:29:49
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Feb 14 2008, 12:19 AM) [snapback]403303[/snapback]
Again, if you look at the last couple of summers, we were told that there would be no transfer news due to Dougue being abroad, so why should this time be any different?
Not having a manager in place by Saturday is a waste of a game as pointed out by the Tele and it seems certain that that is what will be the case, and to run the risk of wasting a second game is just lunacy. We're not even going to get the benefit of the manager leaves, players prove a point thing with part of the old regime still being in charge.

I'm not nearly so pessimistic EM. I know Saturday ended in tears, but we didn't play as badly as we have been doing in the league, and I believe we have a motivator in Jenkins.

Martin Clark always seems to have stuck to the training and coaching side of things. I don't think his presence will necessarily have a detrimental effect.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 00:33:02
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Feb 14 2008, 12:28 AM) [snapback]403307[/snapback]
Anyone with a bit of common sense could frankly make positive adjustments to the running of the club - one such example being that you get your strips out BEFORE people go on holiday, and as soon as possible after, or even before the last match of a title-winning season.
Such things all make a difference, yet they are so obvious to anyone who isn't Douglas Rae.

I can't see the big problem. Surely a combo of Crawford Rae and Alastair Donald wouldn't be worse than Daddy Rae!

I'm not suggesting that's the ideal-it could go pear shaped, but with Shoogly at the helm, we're going nowhere fast.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 00:36:00
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Feb 13 2008, 11:56 PM) [snapback]403289[/snapback]
i was going to read that story on here
but then i realised it was posted by mj so i didnt

I fully understand Greacen.

You've never been able to get up to my intellectual level...


...but you ARE good at wee poems! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-14 00:37:34
QUOTE(Cowshed Chris @ Feb 13 2008, 07:08 PM) [snapback]403011[/snapback]
Lookin to head to a comedy club in Glasgow on Friday night, anybody have any suggestions??

Ibrox?
mortonjag 2008-02-14 00:40:07
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 13 2008, 11:53 PM) [snapback]403284[/snapback]
That joke was 'Owling' tongue.gif

I thought it was a hoot-anyway too late to have a barny about it.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 00:51:43
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Feb 14 2008, 12:37 AM) [snapback]403312[/snapback]
If someone can actually tell us what exactly Mr Donald's role at Cappielow is I might agree, but frankly no-one seems to know. Apparently he's to be in a role that consists mainly of "over-view", but god (no, Douglas, not you...) knows what that really means. We'd be as well suggesting Richard Branson takes over for all we know about this guys involvement.
And a correction - with Dougie at the helm, we're going nowhere.

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I'll always think of him affectionately as Shoogly. If Alastair Donald had just been co-opted to the board as a 'name', for publicity purposes I'd have at least expected the name to be used-if you follow me.

When interviewed, he said, significantly 'I won't be investing AT THIS STAGE'.

He has purportedly been friendly with the Raes for many years but is much much nearer Crawford's age than Douglas'.

It's well known that Donald is a Rangers man at heart with a Ton allegiance, and Crawford is the exact opposite, so they might very well complement each other.

Purely surmise, but with a personal fortune of 60 or 70 million, he is a Rae ray of light perhaps.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 00:54:30
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Feb 14 2008, 12:49 AM) [snapback]403319[/snapback]
You not away to your scratcher yet?

You're usually up in about 3 hrs. tongue.gif

True, but I can nap during the day if required!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 07:00:00
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 14 2008, 12:58 AM) [snapback]403324[/snapback]
What's well known and what's purely surmise?

The subject of the sentence Mr Edwards-did they not teach you grammar at skool?
mortonjag 2008-02-14 07:11:30
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 14 2008, 01:23 AM) [snapback]403328[/snapback]
You were doing quite well until the last. This club would not have survived until now unless it had a strong community base. Hospitaliity facilities are hired out to businesses for conference / publicity purposes (the riverclyde homes launch being a recent example). Encourage the fans to make a noise you say, well do you want Dougie to come out with a microphone and do his 'are you up for it' routine again? Bring a friend you say, hasn't Dougie been asking that 'ad nauseum'? Nope, I reckon the only way to increase support is by playing attractive, entertaining and, most important of all, winning football. Nothing complicated about it, success on the park is everything, it's that simple. Trouble is, any damn fool can be complicated, but it takes a genius to be simple.
Who and where is the genius?

I don't entirely agree with either of you, and mostly agree with both. 'Success on the park' is inextricably moderated by other factors as Mr Mileson will sadly tell you-in fact Gretna is a great example of active attention to the commercial side which failed to compensate for a negligible fanbase.

It might even be argued that an Andy Ritchie would bring in over the season more dosh, despite a mid league finish, than the type of 'success' we endured last season.

I think EM's right about the marketing-it's a Steptoe and Son affair, and there's NO excuse.

The Shoogly Show always stinks of niggardly tight fistedness-penny wise and pound foolish.

We have considerable potential, and, Mr Edwards, I propose that we only require someone with a modicum of foresight to turn matters around-foresight and half a brain.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 07:20:32
QUOTE(Toby @ Feb 14 2008, 02:07 AM) [snapback]403334[/snapback]
Well if that was the case he should have held his hand up, taken the responsibility and financial hit and sacked McInally.

Most of the boo boys would admit that there's been things that they've done that haven't been very becoming of them, Jim has now also belatedly taken responsibility for his failings and only ONE MAN in this whole sorry affair has totally wiped his hands of any blame and that is Douglas Rae.

Just like when things went wrong on the park we called for McInally to take responsibility, now that it's clear things have gone wrong with the appointment of Jim in the first place Rae is nowhere to be seen.

His attitude has been juvinille, cowardly and pathetic.

Juvenile- 'honest Sir' it wasn't me'-it was them!

Cowardly-refused interviews with local press whom he uses when it suits him, and f*cked off for a week.

Pathetc-totally unbecoming for a man of his apparent standing and position of authority.

Toby, I'd go even further and describe his behaviour as irrational. I believe the old bod's losing his marbles.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 07:31:10 I think Douglas Rae started well, but seven years down the line we've hit a low. Hopefully the signing of a new manager will ease the pain a little, but to me at least, it's eminently clear that Mr Rae's behaviour of late has left unanswered questions.

I'm not attacking the Chairman on this occasion-my views are well known-and I'm hoping that posters will treat the poll seriously.

I'm just curious to know what percentage are GENUINELY happy with the status quo at Cappielow.


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That was NOT deliberate-BRYAN -HELP!!!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 07:38:15 Four sunny days out of the next five forecast folks-bikinis oot-pubs hose down the beer gardens-sun is shining-weather is bright-enjoy it while you can!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 08:38:21 I think Douglas Rae started well, but seven years down the line we've hit a low. Hopefully the signing of a new manager will ease the pain a little, but to me at least, it's eminently clear that Mr Rae's behaviour of late has left unanswered questions.

I'm not attacking the Chairman on this occasion-my views are well known-and I'm hoping that posters will treat the poll seriously.

I'm just curious to know what percentage are GENUINELY happy with the status quo at Cappielow


Oh F*ck those poles-I'll do this sometime later-the dog needs out.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 08:40:42
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 14 2008, 08:37 AM) [snapback]403354[/snapback]
yes im happy with douglas rae as chairman. now f*** off.

No-YOU F*CK OFF, and also stop telling lies. It doesn't become you!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 08:45:03
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 14 2008, 08:04 AM) [snapback]403348[/snapback]
well i do hope prospective candidates do their homework and read this board from cover to cover so they know what they are letting themselves in for tongue.gif

None so blind Trumpet-I don't think any candidate will be unaware of Rae's reputation, but some folk never listen!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 08:47:03
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 14 2008, 08:44 AM) [snapback]403357[/snapback]
laugh.gif A fine example of concision and clarity, wouldn't you agree Mentaljag?

Indeed and an even finer example of idiocy Mr Edwards!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 08:49:25
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 14 2008, 08:12 AM) [snapback]403350[/snapback]
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Yes. And I'm sure you understand irony, even though perhaps you don't always recognise it. I'd contend that your comments regarding Messrs Rae and Donald consist entirely of surmise. Oft repeated surmise maybe, but surmise nonetheless.

Contend you may, and you MAY be correct in your contention.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 08:50:57
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 14 2008, 08:22 AM) [snapback]403351[/snapback]
Ah Ha! Are these extracts from your CV? Recently forwarded to Dougie? biggrin.gif

You are half correct-it's an open secret that the monkey has applied!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 08:58:16
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 14 2008, 08:10 AM) [snapback]403349[/snapback]
OK MJ it's another day, so as promised here's my explanation as to why your analogy was stupid.

Comapring a football manager to a surgeon and a football chairman to a head consultant is stupid because, well, football and medicine are completely different professions where the consequences of failure and incompetence and somewhat different. Personally I'd say losing a life through someone's incompetence is significantly more tragic and important that losing 3 points in a football match. Jim was arguably a poor football manager and Dougie is arguably a poor football chairman, but nobody is dead as a result of Jim making a bad substitution or Dougie signing a sub-standard player.

So therefore, in my opinion, your analogy was stupid and therefore failed to contribute anything substantial to the debate.

Actually, that was pretty simple really, I probably could have said that last night after all. tongue.gif




Greek philosophers such as Plato and Aristotle actually used a wider notion of analogy. They saw analogy as a shared abstraction (Shelley 2003). Analogous objects did not share necessarily a relation, but also an idea, a pattern, a regularity, an attribute, an effect or a function. These authors also accepted that comparisons, metaphors and "images" (allegories) could be used as valid arguments, and sometimes they called them analogies.

I await your usual convoluted response!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 09:02:05
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 14 2008, 08:49 AM) [snapback]403361[/snapback]
Aye, I'm happy with Mr Rae.

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AND Bawheid-oh dear wink.gif Shortbread Shins!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 09:15:26
QUOTE(irnbru @ Feb 14 2008, 09:10 AM) [snapback]403369[/snapback]
Your point is that a supporter can't pick the next manager?

He's saying that the club should have made efforts to appoint a boss - just because he himself doesn't know who is available/ interested doesnt mean that the club dont!

Correct Irn Bru-it's unbecoming of Mr Edwards to respond to a valid criticism with 'f*ckin' sort it well'!
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mortonjag 2008-02-14 09:17:23
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 14 2008, 09:14 AM) [snapback]403370[/snapback]
Racist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Poles, polls, or poles Puggs-I'm sure it's a popular expression or is that f*ck the polis?
mortonjag 2008-02-14 09:21:35
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 14 2008, 09:16 AM) [snapback]403373[/snapback]
Plato and Aristotle were obviously talking s***e.

There you go, that wasn't convoluted at all. tongue.gif

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That's the first post of yours I've fully understood for about a week! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-14 09:23:18
QUOTE(jimmy boag delivers @ Feb 14 2008, 09:20 AM) [snapback]403377[/snapback]
There have been ups and downs with Rae - but plenty more ups IMO. Yes there are also concerns over his style but just two words dispel any worries over his handling of the club - H... S...

At the end of the day Rae is a Morton fan just like us and I have no doubt that the club is perfectly safe in his hands.

Just because he's a Morton fan? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-14 09:24:27
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 14 2008, 09:15 AM) [snapback]403372[/snapback]
Walked the cut yesterday, was beautiful!

Not so much today

It's taking its time-maybe appear late morning.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 09:38:40
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 14 2008, 09:32 AM) [snapback]403383[/snapback]
It's extremely cloudy here compared to yesterday.

I hope it clears, got my exam results in and done well so decided to have a good weekend and ignore the dissertation so want to go out a walk.

Same here and milder too. The BBC weather centre has been correct for the last three days, and forecasts sun for today and tomorrow.

Maybe getting it right four days in a row is too much to expect!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 09:43:06
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 14 2008, 09:29 AM) [snapback]403381[/snapback]
laugh.gif I beg your pardon.

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DE, seriously now.

I get a wee bit pissed off with that regular response.

You don't have to be a mechanic to know when your car's broken down, nor do you have the knowledge to fix it.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 09:45:34
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 14 2008, 09:33 AM) [snapback]403384[/snapback]
DISCRIMINATOR!!!!!!

Fu*k the polish then-I hate ostentation.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 09:47:00
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 14 2008, 09:45 AM) [snapback]403390[/snapback]
Is he not just playing right wing for Bromley?

Think he's the 'hatchet man'.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 09:50:29
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 14 2008, 09:46 AM) [snapback]403391[/snapback]
the guy owns a business, a business that makes him a profit that he's able to put into morton (which doesnt make him a profit).

his business trip was probably planned weeks ago and i doubt he was expecting to be looking for a new manager this week. you cant just go about cancelling business trips for the company that owns us because we dont have a manager.

Very true PT, but you've got to admit that it also coincided with an unprecedented reluctance to talk to his friendly local newspaper. I'd prefer to believe that Rae has actually acknowledged the need to lie low for a wee while. That's a step forward surely!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 09:52:47
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 14 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]403394[/snapback]
no one could stop me going to morton games. i dont go to games thinking " i wonder what the chairman thinks of me? ".

i go to watch a game of football played by the team ive grown up loving, nothing anyone has to say about me is ever going to change that.

That's why most 'die hard' fans go, but for me it's been more out of a sense of loyalty and duty lately.

I'd much prefer to get some pleasure out of it.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 09:53:48
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 14 2008, 09:51 AM) [snapback]403396[/snapback]
First you suggest a surgeon, then a monkey and now it's a mechanic. Make your mind up man, who do you want to run Morton? laugh.gif

Hal Stewart's skeleton.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 09:55:11
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 14 2008, 09:49 AM) [snapback]403393[/snapback]
Is it because they are coming over here stealing jobs?

That's not nice! sad.gif

No-you misunderstand-not Polish-polish.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 10:15:34
QUOTE(jag-ton @ Feb 14 2008, 09:56 AM) [snapback]403403[/snapback]
Greetings human Morton Fans!

I am Jag-Ton. I am a new robot Morton fan, designed with the very latest form of artificial intelligence encased in my metal skull. For the last few years, scientists have been secretly creating me in a lab in an abandoned ship-building site on the Clyde. Now I am ready. And I’d like to introduce myself.

What makes me unique is that, unlike other forms of AI, I am programmed to only occasionally adhere to logic and reasoning. That’s what makes me more like your average, human, Ton fan. I also have the ability to completely by-pass my logic circuits in certain circumstances when I deem necessary. This is my secret weapon. I will use it liberally. Some have called it artificial UNintelligence, but I don’t like this. It hurts my feeling-circuits.

Hopefully, my existence will bring peace, harmony and prosperity to Morton Football Club. How I will do this is by first creating as much disharmony as is (in)humanly possible. Please don’t try to understand how this will work…..your brain is far too small and it will explode if you even attempt to work out my strategy.

I will dedicate my every moment to the task at hand. Harmony can only be created from disharmony. Order can only come from chaos. I will provide the chaos. Disharmony is my ally. I do this for you - human Morton fans. You can thank me when we win the Super-European Champions of the Universe League with Jose Ferguson (the first manager grown from stem-cells) at the helm.

That is in the future, however. My quest must start simply. I will endeavour to make sure every sorry rotten scoundrel who is conspiring against Morton achieving its true destiny is hunted down and placed on spikes in the Cowshed. Don’t worry, every fan will get a chance to burn someone. No one will be left out! There will be enough to go round. Goodness knows, there’s plenty who need burning!

Anyway, that’s enough for me for now. I need daily oiling, you see. You’ll be hearing quite a lot from me. I suspect it’ll take approximately 15,000 posts to even begin to create the instability that is required for the next part of my plan.

Peace, love and rusty-bolts.

Jag-Ton the Robot Ton Fan.

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Aye very good-stop blowing that trumpet!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 10:19:52
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 14 2008, 09:56 AM) [snapback]403402[/snapback]
how could he have got us to the SPL? we cant jump two leagues at once. so now he's only going to be a good chairman if he gets us to the SPL? some fans on here have real dillusions of grandeur.

he did what we all wanted, he let the manager we all wanted rid of go.

if you want to have a go at him about our lack of youth system, managerial appointments, players signed etc then go right ahead, but you cant have a go at him for what he said in his statement or that we're not in the SPL. no one wants us in the SPL more than Douglas Rae trust me.

He took over seven years ago and has never stated anything other than that he wanted us in the SPL.

That was his ambition, and it has not come to fruition PT.

You might say in his defence that he was the one with delusions of grandeur, but I believe it could and should have been achieved by now.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 10:21:34
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 14 2008, 10:01 AM) [snapback]403406[/snapback]
Maybe you should write to 'just Joan' for some advice. laugh.gif

No point in writing to myself!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 10:23:02
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Feb 14 2008, 10:14 AM) [snapback]403412[/snapback]
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try to keep it real! blink.gif

We have to get back to the bare bones OTP!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 10:25:29
QUOTE(jag-ton @ Feb 14 2008, 10:23 AM) [snapback]403428[/snapback]
I have spectral-analysed the grass at Cappielow with my robot eyes and the results show that it is the wrong type of green.

My question is - are you happy with the colour of the grass at Cappielow? Or should we sack the groundsman?

You have just been infected with a virus for which there is no known cure, and the man's about to cut off the lecky.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 10:29:12
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Feb 14 2008, 10:05 AM) [snapback]403408[/snapback]
Jeezo - if they, and by they I mean those who were trying to organise the doon the watter event, cannot organise a pishy concert with the HOTHOUSE FLOWERS headlining, how on earth are they going to get STATUS QUO to play. I for one, and Standman for 2, would be more than happy with the QUO at Cappielow... wink.gif rolleyes.gif laugh.gif

Donkeys don't appreciate 'Rock' tailbearer, though they are very faithful to their masters.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 10:32:45
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 14 2008, 10:20 AM) [snapback]403421[/snapback]
From the stand? I'm shocked, I thought you were all gentlefolk.

Not at all-I've regularly heard cries of 'Away with you Mcinally you wee rascal'.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 10:35:30
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Feb 14 2008, 10:25 AM) [snapback]403432[/snapback]
It is every chairman in the Scottish league's ambition to get to the SPL. Just because it has not been achieved yet does not make Mr Rae a failure.

That is substantially inaccurate-dream perhaps-not ambition.

Some Chairmen are quite realistic.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 10:36:48
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Feb 14 2008, 10:29 AM) [snapback]403434[/snapback]
I would say that the current groundsman is the best signing Morton have pulled off in years wink.gif

Mr Farrell is an excellent groundsman.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 10:48:18
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 14 2008, 10:25 AM) [snapback]403430[/snapback]
Dougie could kick off his team talk with 'Alas poor Hal'.

Skull in one hand, microphone in the other.

Friends, morons, and cowshedmen-I come to....

crackle crackle


Erm...Alas poor Macca-I knew him---well I thought I....


pause, pulling out a wee bit of paper...

This is the skull of Hal Stewart-a man who sold cigarettes - not sweeties-Rocky Mount if I recall-an inspirational man, who like me brought Morton Football Club out of the doldrums...

Damn it...they're very quiet...


Are you up for it?
mortonjag 2008-02-14 10:50:30
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 14 2008, 10:39 AM) [snapback]403442[/snapback]
That's what you call yours then eh? I'll say again, write to the agony aunt. laugh.gif

I am the agony aunt DE.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 10:52:35
QUOTE(jag-ton @ Feb 14 2008, 10:38 AM) [snapback]403441[/snapback]
I have asked Stewart Greacen whether he thought a move to the liberal left after the US elections would give global terrorism a more stable foothold in the west. He said he didn't know. Should this man continue as captain of Morton Football Club?

3 down 14,997 to go.

Short circuiting already raw bot-you won't last a week.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 10:55:07
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 14 2008, 10:50 AM) [snapback]403450[/snapback]
Man Utd have been trying to win the champions league desperately for almost a decade, after which ferguson would probably retire. it doesnt make him a failure as a manager if he doesnt win it again.

there are 11 bigger teams than us in the SPL, 7 or 8 teams bigger or just as big as us in the first division, a couple just as big as us in the 2nd division.

all these teams think are fighting for a place in the 12 man SPL, its perfectly plausable that we could get there, but it doesnt make Rae a failure because he hasnt.

i personally think Rae has been a failure, but not for that reason.

This has been debated repeatedly PT. We are potentially as big as every SPL club outside the cities.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 10:56:38
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 14 2008, 10:54 AM) [snapback]403453[/snapback]
okay ladies and gentleman its time to play ' Guess the Alias ' with me bruce forsyth.

NICE TO SEE YOU TO SEE YOU.......

I think it's my dear friend Trumpet-perhaps he will confirm or deny!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 10:58:43
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Feb 14 2008, 10:56 AM) [snapback]403455[/snapback]
And your point is?

Whose point-if you mean mine, I'm surprised you can't work it out.

I believe Mr Rae could, and should have been able to achieve SPL status in seven years.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 11:02:29
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 14 2008, 11:00 AM) [snapback]403458[/snapback]
Now you're just being daft. Only the Co op sold Rocky Mount.

....and Hal was one of the Coop's most successful purveyors of Rocky Mount Mr Edwards-I kid you not.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 11:08:18
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Feb 14 2008, 11:02 AM) [snapback]403460[/snapback]
I dreamt we would be in the SPL by now. We are in the 1st which is a step in the right direction from 7years ago.

I guess I'm just realistic!

I reckon I'm realistic too. I just find it sad that Douglas Rae had a certain amount of money apparently available for Morton-that money, I sincerely believe, is no longer freely available to the club.

I believe that, had the sum already squandered been used more providently, we COULD currently be a profitable SPL club.

No doubt one of our shooglyphile money men will produce figures in an attempt to disprove me.

In fact I'd say that's a certainty! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-14 11:11:36
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Feb 14 2008, 11:07 AM) [snapback]403464[/snapback]
your poll is fatally flawed and you can't see it!
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What a pathetic wee man you are.

Did it take you all night to think that up bright spark?

I'm not the only poster who commented on the lack of a third option.

Your poll, like yourself, is keech.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 11:13:09
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 14 2008, 11:10 AM) [snapback]403466[/snapback]
Attention all shooglyphile bean counters! Mentaljag awaits.

TY, DE-nothing like reinforcement!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 11:14:38
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 14 2008, 11:05 AM) [snapback]403462[/snapback]
Now I remember. Hal would give you divi on every sesaon ticket sold. laugh.gif

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and would have sold his Granny for two bob.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 11:21:47
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Feb 14 2008, 11:16 AM) [snapback]403470[/snapback]
Your poll, like yourself, is keech.

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My God, could you actually be any more immature.

Of course I could-I always try to keep my replies on a level the original poster can understand.

I can also be quite mature when it suits me-I'm not the sort of chap who, like you, REALLY believes Millions is a 'household name', hangs up his stocking at Christmas, and prays to the Tooth Fairy..

Your poll, good Sir is a joke-if you don't think that, it confirms what I've already said.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 11:36:32
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Feb 14 2008, 11:18 AM) [snapback]403471[/snapback]
I agree 100% and I am just as frustrated with our predicament, however I am yet to meet anyone with a BA honours in hindsight. I am not belittling you here, but no one could predict Templeman etc would be failures and Gretna would steamroll up the leagues at our expense.

We were very unfortunate with the Gretna situation. I took great pains to point out on the forum that Mileson was 'cheating' us by buying his way up the leagues, and predicted his ultimate demise. That was greeted with the same mindless abuse which I subsequently endured as one of the early JM doubters.

The Chairman has made several blunders which cannot, however, be blamed on Gretna, and despite the incredible level of loyalty he still retains, the handling of JM's departure was a fiasco, and probably an embarrassment to his co-directors.

I have wondered for some time about his state of mind-his programme notes hardly bespeak an intelligent and rational man who strives to keep the ship 'on course, and we've had blunder after blunder with season tickets, strips, lack of expected signings with last minute 'sweeteners', and a history of absolutely shocking PR.

Some may well be praying that he would just 'disappear'. I don't want that. I believe he deserves several years as Honorary President. I don't even see him as a 'bad' guy. Everybody has good points. Even Hitler liked dogs.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 12:01:50 Dundee will be on a 'high' after beating Motherwell, and this is a 'must win' if they are to stay anywhere near the Lanarkshire cry babies.

We have a poor record against them this season, and I'm sure they'll think we're 'easy meat'.

Football's a funny game though. I do believe our boys will have a feeling of a fresh start after recent events, and we're not the total duffers that our league position suggests. I fully expect a point out of this one, while the Monkey confidently predicts a 1-0 victory---for us!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 12:11:19
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Feb 14 2008, 12:01 PM) [snapback]403486[/snapback]
Oh dear it seems you really can be. blink.gif

You've surpassed yourself there. Well done.

Thank you-you are so kind.

I must have been mistaken-I was sure we had a long running argument about 'Millions', and the size of Shoogly's empire, after which you maturely pushed the little huff button, or was that after I legitimately mentioned your father in the context of the Stan Webster saga.

I really can't understand why I upset you so much-I have no personal issue with you so far as I know. Why are you so cruel? In reality I'm a very pleasant and extremely popular person.

Moreover, I'd have thought that gophers like yourself would be proud to have on the forum a gentleman of such high repute and education.

The ungratefulness of some people is puzzling in the extreme.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 12:17:12
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 14 2008, 12:03 PM) [snapback]403490[/snapback]
potential cant compete with tangeable solidarity. we may have potential to be as big as them but we're not. they are in the SPL and we arent because they realised their potential while we are still in the proccess of attempting to reach ours. the way Dougie has gone about this has been far from perfect but he wants us in the SPL as much as anyone.

we've made many mistakes along the way but unless you have gretna money you cant buy your way through the leagues, i mean look at us.....it took us years to get out of the 2nd division and we still werent ready for it.

i believe one day we'll get to the SPL with or without Dougie, we were never going to be ready for it this early after coming back from literally nothing, it was a pipe dream by anyone, including dougie who thought we would.

Have you actually thought that through? I'm a wee bit tired of hearing 'we weren't ready for it'

Is it not just conceivable that with a different Board and manager but the same initial assets we could have progressed to the SPL over seven years and now be profitable. I'm not saying it is, but I would like to hear a detailed breakdown of 'why we were not ready'.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 12:20:08 F*CK the BBC Weather Centre. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-14 12:37:25
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 14 2008, 12:30 PM) [snapback]403506[/snapback]
its also concievable that any other club in the SPL could get relegated and be stuck in the first division for years, thats football.

by having to start from scratch and to get to the SPL it would mean we'd have to -

buy players that were good enough to win the 3rd division
buy players that were good enough to win the 2nd division
buy players that were good enough to win the 1st division
fix the cowshed from it being closed
fix the floodlights to play in the 1st division
Rebuild the whole stadium to comply with SPL rules

and lots lots more.

thats almost impossible to do in 7 years just considering the money, nevermind the practicality of it all being achievable in that space of time.

we're now into our third division which averages out at almost 2 years in each division which is acceptable, if we stay up this year then i think we're well on the way to progress and achieving our potential.

I agree that re-building would require a big investment. I think that Mr Rae simply bit off more than he could chew, but prudent stewardship could have dealt with all of those other problems, and at least seen us now as an established 1st Division side-perhaps having to wait for someone with real money before moving on.

I'm just praying that Mr Donald may prove to be that man.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 12:54:01
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Feb 14 2008, 12:43 PM) [snapback]403517[/snapback]
Another topic from MortonJag = Another rant about Mr Rae.

Mate we all know you don't like the guy, you rant about our chairman almost every few posts.

Give it a rest ya f***ing creep.

The last bastion of the intellectually deprived! laugh.gif

If you had the wit to read, You'd see it was far from a rant about the chairman.

What do you think, or are your opinions confined to believing that all who seem better endowed than you are f*cking creeps?
mortonjag 2008-02-14 12:57:34
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Feb 11 2008, 10:10 PM) [snapback]401502[/snapback]
Well Said Douglas Rae

While Im glad to see JM gone the abuse the players have had to put up with from 90 minutte hard men is disgusting.

Why don't you name and shame those aggressive dwarves?
mortonjag 2008-02-14 13:04:45
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Feb 14 2008, 12:57 PM) [snapback]403523[/snapback]
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You really are the most ridiculous little man I have ever encountered. You should stop, take a look at your 14,000 posts and think for a moment - is this what my life has become.
Now stop bothering me you silly old fool. Is it not about time you started another thread about what a bad man Douglas Rae is so you can name call and insult those of us with the audacity to disagree with you.
Don’t bother replying to this as, unlike you, I’m busy for the rest of the day but you’re welcome to leave me a PM so I can laugh at you later.

You have never met me son, and you haven't a clue what I'll be doing for the rest of the day.

I was extremely busy when in my worthwhile occupation, and am entitled to spend my retirement doing just as I please.

I can well understand your resentment of someone who has clearly achieved vastly more than you can even aspire to.

Just a word of advice from an old professional, knock that fish supper off your shoulder-it doesn't smell wub.gif pleasant!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 13:06:36
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Feb 14 2008, 01:00 PM) [snapback]403525[/snapback]
Are you suggesting that they don't exist ?

I don't know any of 'em by name, but I sure as hell hear them.

Aye but how do you know how many and what size they are?
mortonjag 2008-02-14 13:07:51
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Feb 14 2008, 01:05 PM) [snapback]403529[/snapback]
Hahaha oh indeed i do in some case's but with you it's all the time as you come across as a borring old man with nothing better to do than go on about Mr Rae.

It's annoying and pathetic.

I think from now on i'll just not read your topics, a wise move i feel.

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That makes very good sense.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 13:12:43
QUOTE(Jim @ Feb 14 2008, 01:05 PM) [snapback]403530[/snapback]
Ok Jagordamius,What do u predict will happen in regaurds of the Rae's family involvment at cappielow?,Who will our new manager be? and will we stay up this year?,Where will Morton be in 5-10 years time and what are this weeks lotto numbers?

Don't be naive Jimbo-for that kind of information I require remuneration.

In truth, through my sources, I can confidently answer the first three questions, but confidentiality prevents that.

Morton may be in the SPL in 5-10 years time-I'm reasonably confident they will.

This weeks lotto numbers are the stumbling block-I don't always get them correct two weeks in a row.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 13:14:35
QUOTE(Waverley @ Feb 14 2008, 01:12 PM) [snapback]403536[/snapback]
If I recall correctly, when Hal was the manager, the club was owned, I think, by a man called Peter Taylor, who was a top executive at the Co-op.

That's right, and I think Hal was an area sales exec for Rocky Mount cigarettes.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 13:16:01
QUOTE(Bryan @ Feb 14 2008, 01:13 PM) [snapback]403538[/snapback]
We were 4-0 against the sons and someone shouted "this is f**kin shockin McInally" blink.gif

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A sane and sober somebody?
mortonjag 2008-02-14 13:18:13
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Feb 14 2008, 01:15 PM) [snapback]403540[/snapback]
What ? huh.gif

The 90 minutte hard men!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 13:22:02
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Feb 14 2008, 01:18 PM) [snapback]403545[/snapback]
Yes, but you lost me at ..

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Dom dom - my old friend Real Hoops talked aboute '90 minutte hard men'.

I'm sure he meant 'minute' but that's neither here nor there.


90 of them, and each was minute!

Not exactly a force to be reckoned with!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 13:25:53
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Feb 14 2008, 01:21 PM) [snapback]403546[/snapback]
I can well understand your resentment of someone who has clearly achieved vastly more than you can even aspire to.
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You obviously have some kind of self worth problem going on there so you just keep thinking (wishing) that and have a nice day wee man. wink.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

You're about as reliable as Shoogly.


'I won't be replying because I'm far too busy' you claimed.

You probably wouldn't know a proper job even if it was advertised in bold letters in one of your comics.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 13:29:51
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 14 2008, 01:25 PM) [snapback]403552[/snapback]
he may have thought our record wasnt good because of Mcinally but that didnt mean he wanted him to leave, he may have thought he could turn it around given a little bit more time.

Fans complain when their club dont listen to them but ours has by bringing in new players and letting our manager leave. they cant win, you'd be complaining if we didnt bring in new players and let the manager go when we asked and youre complaining that we did.

I think Rae did want JM to leave, and didn't want to pay compensation. Well that's what I'd have expected of an astute businessman.

On the other hand it may be that Mr Rae was desperate to keep the manager, but if you go down that road PT you DO have to question his sanity.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 13:32:48
QUOTE(Bryan @ Feb 14 2008, 01:25 PM) [snapback]403551[/snapback]

It’s just unfortunate that this coincided with Gillian [Chief Executive Gillian Donaldson] being on holiday and me being on a business trip.”


That about sums up the organisation at Cappielow!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 13:33:45
QUOTE(Bryan @ Feb 14 2008, 01:18 PM) [snapback]403542[/snapback]
yes he posts on here tongue.gif

Hmm-that WAS a bit unfair I'd say!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 13:34:48
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Feb 14 2008, 01:29 PM) [snapback]403555[/snapback]
Maybe both of you could meet up, have a blether, then go for a walk holding hands

Not after what happened last time. sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-14 13:36:07
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 14 2008, 01:07 PM) [snapback]403532[/snapback]
I was a bit bored at work this morning...

Physics was my favourite subject at school. I suppose you either love it or hate it.

Do you remember Maxwell's demon-can't remember whom he played for mind?
mortonjag 2008-02-14 13:52:59
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Feb 14 2008, 01:39 PM) [snapback]403563[/snapback]
How very clever of you to point out what is obviously not a spelling mistake but is clearly a typo. Have a gold star!
However, I'm sure you'll find that I talked about and not " talked aboute "

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You are not the grammatical expert you think you are. There are countless mistakes riddled throughout your 14,000 posts of self indulgent drivel. Some of us are not so petty to highlight them though. Although I must admit that I was very tempted when you recently displayed an embarrassing disregard for the difference between infer and imply.

Now get yourself back on topic. Douglas Rae,..what a bad man.!!

Don't tempt me you ignorant fool-I don't double and treble check my posts, as I would if I was producing a paper.

I wasn't even attempting to ridicule your 'typo'-of course we all make them-I just noticed the amusing way the sentence could have two entirely different meanings.

Having said that, I challenge you to prove that my posts are 'riddled with countless mistakes'

To put it quite simply you are one of the very few posters to who I happily say-you can't hold a candle to my achievements and qualifications.

That usually evokes anger and insult.

Please be sure to keep your spell checker on.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 13:55:33
QUOTE(big B @ Feb 14 2008, 01:41 PM) [snapback]403565[/snapback]
Why would we want Jose Quitongo as manager laugh.gif

Cos he's cheery-would make a change!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 13:57:51
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 14 2008, 01:39 PM) [snapback]403564[/snapback]
he wouldnt be the first chairman thats wanted to keep a terrible manager on, its a lot harder to see problems from the inside after all they dont say the first step to recovery is realising you have a problem for nothing. normally its the people around you that notice a long time before you do.

but if we're calling dougie rae insane then we'd have to call a lot more chairmen insane, although they may actually be considering they want to buy a football club in scotland.

Its not just this one issue PT-it's the catalogue of bizarre behaviour that's puzzling me.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 13:59:53
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Feb 14 2008, 01:46 PM) [snapback]403570[/snapback]
Don’t bother replying to this as, unlike you, I’m busy for the rest of the day but you’re welcome to leave me a PM so I can laugh at you later.
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laugh.gif You just keep setting them up !

That doesnt say I wont reply. It says PLEASE DONT YOU REPLY.

So, wrong again. rolleyes.gif

Too busy to read but not too busy to write-very good Professor!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 14:00:58
QUOTE(Muz @ Feb 14 2008, 01:45 PM) [snapback]403569[/snapback]
Says in the Tele that he wouldnt be advertising for it!!

Penny pinching and lying too by the sound of it.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 14:03:53
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Feb 14 2008, 01:50 PM) [snapback]403572[/snapback]
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Although maybe the Professor would as well, if you remember him.

My asinine friend has answered your question-most educated people are well acquainted with the term 'leet' in connection with job interviews.

By the way,I'm wondering if you are a male model. You manage to be 'very busy' and do a fair wee bit of posting at the same time.

Adonis with laptop.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 14:06:11
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 14 2008, 01:58 PM) [snapback]403577[/snapback]
No doubt including one from Doctor Mentaljag aka the skeletal shakespearian surgeon aka the monkey mechanic. I'd love to read that one. Even better to be there at the interview. laugh.gif

There is a good chance the job will go to a monkey DE.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 14:12:22 Jeez-oh-normally by Thursday this type of thread is buzzing, but we're still all fighting like cat and dog over the bizarre utterances of our Chairman!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 14:16:08
QUOTE(Muz @ Feb 14 2008, 01:43 PM) [snapback]403566[/snapback]
Everything about the Hawke screams "legend" to me.

Says he's not ready at the moment, but some of the quotes he's gave just ooze class and quality.

"There is no doubt i'd be very flattered to be linked with this position. Whether on a Short Term or Long Term basis, the role would always be very appealing."

The position should never be taken lightly. The need for a manager who understands the club, the players and the fantastic support is paramount. I believe in this area I would be the best candidate"

He goes on to say

"To take on this prestigious role requires someone with extensive knowledge of all the divisions, and I feel that I am still a couple of years away from this. That, linked with my current business commitments means I wouldnt be able to give the managers role it deserves."

I think the guy is class- and will definetely be a manager here one day. Intelligent, good relations with the fans.

In other words- legend.

A wise man indeed-I bet he'd have jumped at the job if he didn't know so much about the aspects of the club he carefully omits.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 14:23:37
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 14 2008, 02:21 PM) [snapback]403591[/snapback]
he may just be getting old, time catches up on everyone. again im sure its a lot easier for people to say notice he's old but its a lot harder for someone to realise theyre getting too old to do the job they love.

i doubt Dougie will be here all that much longer. ( at morton i mean not dead. )

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Love it!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 14:45:19
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Feb 14 2008, 02:37 PM) [snapback]403598[/snapback]
Nothing I could say about your self-importance and pomposity could ever say more than your own words above just have.

I'll always be happy in the knowledge that you know nothing about me.

Run along now fool.

I might just know a lot more about you than you think, and you shouldn't have to rack your tiny brain too hard too work out why.

Self importance and pomposity may not be desirable qualities, but when evinced by ignorant nobodies like yourself Mr C they become inexorably ludicrous-now why don't you run along, and stop wasting your employers time and money. There are surely more important types of entertainment for your attention. cool.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-14 14:52:05
QUOTE(Newsboy @ Feb 14 2008, 02:38 PM) [snapback]403599[/snapback]
My thoughts are that there'll be a lot less flak coming the way of you, and the likes of you, come Saturday night if we win or draw.

Given that your main beef was/is with Douglas Rae, who in your opinion is 'the puppet master' who picks the team, there is no logical reason, if your conspiracy theory is to be believed, why we should do any better without JM.

I never suggested that Rae 'picked' the team, but he clearly had a large influence on JM.

I AM disappointed that Rae will be back from his 'business trip' on Saturday.The last time we played well was at Palmerston when he was in Germany.

I still think, however, that the absence of the manager in the dugout will give the boys free rein, and I expect a good performance, masterminded by Smith and Jenkins.

Incidentally, I'd be obliged if you would explain what you mean by 'conspiracy theory'.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 15:01:56
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Feb 14 2008, 02:53 PM) [snapback]403602[/snapback]
blink.gif What Question is that? I laughed with ThornTon and agreed that the use of leet was very "Dougie". Can you show me where I say that I don't know what "leet" means?

Are you wrong again little man? smile.gif Awww!! Looks like it.

Oh and you "wonder if I'm a male model"? Keep that sort of thought to yourself old man- you couldn't afford me. rolleyes.gif

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How much do you charge?
mortonjag 2008-02-14 15:04:22
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Feb 14 2008, 02:55 PM) [snapback]403604[/snapback]
Partly because somebody keeps creating thread after thread to discuss the Chairman.

I fully expect us to get beat but you never know. It's hard to see where the goals will come from and you've got to expect us to concede at least once.

....and presumably bribes everybody to participate!

Who started this thread?
mortonjag 2008-02-14 15:08:11
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Feb 14 2008, 03:04 PM) [snapback]403615[/snapback]
You are way out of order there and you know it.

Aha-back to this old chestnut you clot-'way out of order about what'-please explain Mr H-it will surely be nice to make me face the music!

If you can't stand the heat your huff button is at your disposal, you haughty, over sensitive, and offensive little creep.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 17:26:55
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Feb 14 2008, 03:12 PM) [snapback]403620[/snapback]
I think of him looking a little like this

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I never wear blue hats!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 17:30:13
QUOTE(Torro @ Feb 14 2008, 03:31 PM) [snapback]403627[/snapback]
more like this to be honest

I truly find that offensive Torro-in fact in the inimitable words of somebody else that's bang out of order.


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mortonjag 2008-02-14 17:38:05
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Feb 14 2008, 03:41 PM) [snapback]403634[/snapback]
That's 'appalling' by the way!! Why is it bad to advertise the appointment on the web? Where do you go to get information about Morton? The web is a great way to advertise jobs cheaply. Where do you want it? In quality journals like the Sun or the Daily Ranger?? Maybe the Sunday Times?

It's a good point Tonsilitis-I think what's odd, though, is that they claimed they 'were not advertising the position'.

Seems they know how to use GMFC.net when it suits them, but rarely for the benefit of the fans.

Incidentally, where have the CV's to be sent to in the second instance-the monkey spent days on that first one and it's driving him bananas.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 17:39:28
QUOTE(jpmil @ Feb 14 2008, 05:08 PM) [snapback]403678[/snapback]
I also would use that word!

As would I!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 17:51:00
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Feb 14 2008, 03:08 PM) [snapback]403618[/snapback]
The Norseman does it's job and I use it before most home games.

What's the worst drink anyone's ever had in there? I made the mistake once of buying the house whisky (which isn't there anymore) and it could have burnt the bars off a prison. I've drunk alot of cheap whisky in my life but this stuff was probably developed as a weapon in the Cold War. In an incredible twist of fate, about 4 or 5 weeks later, a visiting mate of mine bought me a house whisky again and it was just as rank which ruled out the possibility that the first one was simply a glass of turps that Maximillian had pissed in for a joke.

Nice epitaph Sir!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 17:56:42
QUOTE(Doc @ Feb 14 2008, 05:47 PM) [snapback]403698[/snapback]
It's pretty standard to list jobs on your own company website these days. Where I work, we can't even post a position somewhere else (monster etc) unless is has been on our own site for longer than 5 days.

Maybe this info can help Mortonjag find something to occupy his time better?? wink.gif ...averaging sixteen posts a day sounds unemployed to me, mate!! tongue.gif

I am unemployed Doc-it's quite amusing how so many people seem to think I sit all day at the computer-FFS I make tea, shower and shave once a week, say my prayers, and chat to the Monkey for hours about serious matters. This is just a little diversion-oh and I urinate very frequently-moustache! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-14 18:00:13
QUOTE(paddi @ Feb 14 2008, 05:14 PM) [snapback]403683[/snapback]
did everyone suddenly forget the the W*nker slated us publicly !!!!!!!!

i say no to ro !!!!!

give us jim duffy ... he's a people man and a good motivator ... thats really what we need at this time

i do think we have the talent but just not playing to our strengths...




Sure thing Jim Paddi! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-14 18:02:30
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Feb 14 2008, 12:36 PM) [snapback]403510[/snapback]
From your trade experience Scott what could he make on a busy match day ?

Obviously he has to make up for weekdays when it'll be inhabited by 2 tramps and a scabby dug.

...sitting writing the Ton programme draft.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 18:04:11
QUOTE(davidh1874 @ Feb 14 2008, 06:01 PM) [snapback]403706[/snapback]

He's an ex footballer?
mortonjag 2008-02-14 18:06:37
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 14 2008, 06:02 PM) [snapback]403708[/snapback]
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Absolute quality.

It has to be either LCM, CHC or DongaTon. Best laugh on this messageboard since Bawheid's Bicycle park around 2002/3 season.

A stoater.

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It hasn't spoken for a while-clearly not programmed properly for those 15.000 posts!


BTW when are you going to change your siggy? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-14 18:12:57 I think the phanos are slightly larger than McGeady's.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 18:14:28
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 14 2008, 06:09 PM) [snapback]403714[/snapback]
What makes you think i'll change it?

Another Duffy hater? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-14 18:18:57
QUOTE(MacKTon @ Feb 14 2008, 05:07 PM) [snapback]403677[/snapback]
But Marshall, dont you think it was a valid point about the fans at home? The abuse was over the top - sometimes our young team look scared to play at home. I appeaciate that it was not the best time to make such a comment, but I dont think it was far from the truth. The Chairman has also brought in a new board member - perhaps this appointment can help push the club forward?

But not scared to pick up their wages!

They did look a bit timorous in the 6-1 defeat by Livingston at Scapa, mind you.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 18:23:02
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 14 2008, 06:17 PM) [snapback]403719[/snapback]
Erm, no.

Jim Duffy is one orf our more sensible candidates considering half the board are salivating about Alan Moore and Flavour-of-the-Month teuchters like David Baikie.

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Surely the proof of the pudding's in the eating. I admire Jim Duffy-I believe he is a straight down the middle guy, and more importantly, I believe he would walk away, if he wasn't allowed to manage, but you are being a tad hard on the other two-particularly Moore, who has shown an unusual ability to get a lot from very little.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 18:39:43
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 14 2008, 06:32 PM) [snapback]403723[/snapback]
Moore - He proved he could outwit Jim McInally and done so to our expense a couple of times last season, but he is a long way from being the experienced manager that i would like to see at Cappielow.

Baikie - Maybe i'm a tad unfair to him, he may have proven that he is worthy for a big step up to a bigger club, but why does it have to be Morton? if it all goes terribly wrong its yet just another Angus mob thats cashed our cheque and laughed up their sleeves at us.

Are you sure about that bit?
mortonjag 2008-02-14 18:40:16
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Feb 14 2008, 06:31 PM) [snapback]403722[/snapback]
It is Mortonjag himself. Surely only his ego is large enough to maintain something like this! wink.gif

unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-14 18:42:41
QUOTE(CowshedBarmyArmy @ Feb 14 2008, 03:52 PM) [snapback]403637[/snapback]
Personally I think We Shoud, As I am a great fan of ultras. If so we need ones who are goin to be dedicated to singing week in week out. tongue.gif

Its Just a Topic to discuss as I think Morton Fans Are Loud Where We are together and willing to sing rolleyes.gif

some one who stands at the front of the cowshed with a Microphone and gets the crowd goin.
If this does happen then I can see teams been terrified of The atmosphere that morton fans can culger up when at full voice laugh.gif
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZK0fGnxjCg .. Anno you Cant Understand it .. but its a great video smile.gif

We had enough trouble with Nike and Umbro IMO.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 18:45:29 I've just been told that George Bowie is a big Morton fan-I was ashamed to show my ignorance, but who the hell is George Bowie? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-14 18:49:31
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 14 2008, 06:44 PM) [snapback]403728[/snapback]
Ach, okay he's at East Fife this weather. Its the same difference to me, they marry their own cousins in those parts.
Since folk like spreading the dirt about Rowan Alexander and Jim Duffy, lets look at David Baikie.

'The assault followed a contractual dispute'


Nae chance of Shoogly appointing him then!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 18:53:07
QUOTE(princessTON @ Feb 14 2008, 06:47 PM) [snapback]403731[/snapback]
He is a Radio Clyde DJ. He is a Rangers fan, but is quite fond of Morton.

Thanks Princess-I've now challenged my source-she claims that although Bowie does his DJ thing at Ibrox he actually prefers the Ton-came from somebody who apparently knows him very well!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 18:56:18
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 14 2008, 06:52 PM) [snapback]403734[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDjeezo Puggs-my auntie Jessie's been posing again.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 18:59:08 Why is it so called?
mortonjag 2008-02-14 19:02:49
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 14 2008, 07:00 PM) [snapback]403741[/snapback]
that's a pile of s***e mate sad.gif

Warren was a great player in his early days with us, but in his last spell he didn't get much change out of defences.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 19:05:48
QUOTE(jag-ton @ Feb 14 2008, 09:56 AM) [snapback]403403[/snapback]
Greetings human Morton Fans!

I am Jag-Ton. I am a new robot Morton fan, designed with the very latest form of artificial intelligence encased in my metal skull. For the last few years, scientists have been secretly creating me in a lab in an abandoned ship-building site on the Clyde. Now I am ready. And I’d like to introduce myself.

What makes me unique is that, unlike other forms of AI, I am programmed to only occasionally adhere to logic and reasoning. That’s what makes me more like your average, human, Ton fan. I also have the ability to completely by-pass my logic circuits in certain circumstances when I deem necessary. This is my secret weapon. I will use it liberally. Some have called it artificial UNintelligence, but I don’t like this. It hurts my feeling-circuits.

Hopefully, my existence will bring peace, harmony and prosperity to Morton Football Club. How I will do this is by first creating as much disharmony as is (in)humanly possible. Please don’t try to understand how this will work…..your brain is far too small and it will explode if you even attempt to work out my strategy.

I will dedicate my every moment to the task at hand. Harmony can only be created from disharmony. Order can only come from chaos. I will provide the chaos. Disharmony is my ally. I do this for you - human Morton fans. You can thank me when we win the Super-European Champions of the Universe League with Jose Ferguson (the first manager grown from stem-cells) at the helm.

That is in the future, however. My quest must start simply. I will endeavour to make sure every sorry rotten scoundrel who is conspiring against Morton achieving its true destiny is hunted down and placed on spikes in the Cowshed. Don’t worry, every fan will get a chance to burn someone. No one will be left out! There will be enough to go round. Goodness knows, there’s plenty who need burning!

Anyway, that’s enough for me for now. I need daily oiling, you see. You’ll be hearing quite a lot from me. I suspect it’ll take approximately 15,000 posts to even begin to create the instability that is required for the next part of my plan.

Peace, love and rusty-bolts.

Jag-Ton the Robot Ton Fan.

Somebody run out of Three in One then? ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-14 19:07:52
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 14 2008, 07:03 PM) [snapback]403744[/snapback]
the chairman's message is also informative, giving those who might be interested (fans?) details of process and timescale:

"a short leet will be drawn up on Friday of this week" etc

gosh, that's tomorrow unsure.gif

Five hours to go!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 19:13:01
QUOTE(kingtiffin @ Feb 14 2008, 07:09 PM) [snapback]403748[/snapback]
this is the same scenario but when the s*** is going to hit the fan they all bolt on holiday when mr raemanov scrapped the u/17s youth team last season they called all the boys and parents in to tell them thanks but cheerio
but were was dougie on holiday were was gillian on holiday so i laugh when i read it has not got any balls .
would love to hear jim mcinallys side of the story ie remeber chris millar scenario??????
this man spews out vomit as a hobby one down one to go mr raemanov see u times up..

Always thought he looked a bit anorexic.
mortonjag 2008-02-14 19:16:34
QUOTE(jag-ton @ Feb 14 2008, 07:13 PM) [snapback]403751[/snapback]
Jag-ton has been busy. In my quest to bring maximum chaos (and thus save Morton and turn the club into a global super-power) I have gone undercover.

In a move I learned from Moonraker, I formed a “special” relationship with one of the heart-monitors that was so widely used by Jim McInally and Martin Clark. Anticipating hard times ahead now her masters have departed, she quickly succumbed to Jag-Ton’s illogical charms.

After exchanging currents (she was AC/DC Jag-Ton was delighted to discover) she revealed that there is a conspiracy afoot. Yes! A conspiracy!

Apparently, DDFR is planning to give Barry Smith as many free Half-Pounders sweeties as the poor lad can eat at training every day. This will be sold as part of a new “back to basics” training regime that doesn’t involve any new-fangled technology.

Eventually, Smith’s belly will block the entire cowshed’s view of the dugout. That way, the whole Rae family can take happily take up their rightful place and continue their evil schemes.

Boo! They must be stopped!

I will continue to work for the best of the Ton.

Jag-Ton

Is the new organ functioning well?
mortonjag 2008-02-14 19:18:59
QUOTE(Deego @ Feb 14 2008, 07:17 PM) [snapback]403754[/snapback]
Other clubs do it as well.

Better-even!
mortonjag 2008-02-14 19:30:36
QUOTE(foobs the elder @ Feb 14 2008, 07:22 PM) [snapback]403757[/snapback]
Yes ,
of course you would know of potentia chairmen, bags of cash to throw at the club,
the probably all live on the same housing scheme as you and drink in the yard.

reality check needed you MORON

foobsl

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Foobs seems to like Mr Rae and dislike folk who live in housing schemes.

Isn't that a surprise! sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-14 19:32:01
QUOTE(jag-ton @ Feb 14 2008, 07:22 PM) [snapback]403758[/snapback]
Everything seems to be in working order! The first time's always a trauma (I was led to believe), but she said I was better than a sweaty (and thus hyper-conductive) Chris Miller.

I think you're a motherboard f*cker jaggy bott!
mortonjag 2008-02-15 06:37:24
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 14 2008, 12:23 PM) [snapback]403504[/snapback]
I concur! Will still take a wee walk at somepoint, but it wont be as enjoyable!

Mr Sun's definitely coming today Puggs-I've 'phoned the BBC and complained and they're fixing it for us.
mortonjag 2008-02-15 06:38:47
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 14 2008, 07:59 PM) [snapback]403767[/snapback]
that's a hard one



It was meant to be a serious question!
mortonjag 2008-02-15 06:45:13
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 14 2008, 08:01 PM) [snapback]403769[/snapback]
why is mortonjag talking to himself?



Hey jaggy bott-hope you're well oiled-forza wants you to speak at the same time as me-jaggy bott-do you need me to boot you up the mainframe? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-15 06:49:29
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Feb 14 2008, 08:48 PM) [snapback]403786[/snapback]
Retire gracefully, sail into the sunset and leave the club in the capable hands of someone younger with a new vision of direction. (ohh my, was that ageism smile.gif )

Decidedly not wise one.
Either that or he could transmogrify into a plooky teenager overnight, and come on here spouting pisssshh at the new Chairman.
mortonjag 2008-02-15 06:51:19
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 14 2008, 09:44 PM) [snapback]403816[/snapback]
Both sets of fans are being blamed for the dismissal of the manager at their clubs, but it's not what you say its the way you say it.

That needs no further comment! wink.gif


laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-15 06:55:46
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Feb 13 2008, 10:05 PM) [snapback]403161[/snapback]
Sadly too many "know-it-alls" in the morton support.

McInally was hated by some folk from the minute he walked through the door (i suspect because of his connections with one half of the OF) and therefor never stood a chance.

Duffy ? pesonally i wouldn't want him in charge simply because he's got more failures than succeses.

Is that why Alistair Donald will never last as a director then you sozzled ape?
mortonjag 2008-02-15 07:02:40 You really are an irresponsible shower-we have the best kit man in Scotland-nay in the world-he has state of the art ironing facilities with super sensitive mico thermo switching technology, and his hampers are constructed from the finest hand crafted wicker-he is a fine fine man, and I'm certain the Chairman will do his utmost to talk him out of his impending resignation.

Shame on you.
mortonjag 2008-02-15 07:03:46
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 14 2008, 09:14 PM) [snapback]403794[/snapback]
I can just see Paul Hughes latest article in tomorrow's Sun:

"John Connolly is the latest name to be linked with the vacant Morton manager's job."

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mortonjag 2008-02-15 07:04:42
QUOTE(davidh1874 @ Feb 14 2008, 11:01 PM) [snapback]403851[/snapback]
It's a distict possibility.

I was only trying to educate people on his willingness to take the position...........don't shoot the messenger!!

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mortonjag 2008-02-15 07:09:09 I liked Hawk a lot-my fondest memory will always be the way he used to challenge a goalie-running in on him with his arms flapping wildly.

Quite the opposite of a hawk at work come to think of it.
mortonjag 2008-02-15 07:13:34
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Feb 14 2008, 09:20 PM) [snapback]403798[/snapback]
Hit a nerve did I. But since your opinion matters not a jot as you admit yourself you have not had to suffer like us fools I won't read too much into it.

I was not talking about anyone boycotting games, I was talking about others telling people to grow up and not to take the comments seriously despite the fact this is man in his 70's who papped the toys out the pram. But maybe because his baws are probably redundant now he is exempt from criticism from the 'adults' on this forum.

That could explain the angst!
mortonjag 2008-02-15 07:17:16
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 15 2008, 12:25 AM) [snapback]403893[/snapback]
I'll give two reasons to be cautious (but not necessarily distrusting) of the new director.
1. He's a management consultant (a breed known to speak in tongues whilst promising to perform miracles)
2. He has worshipped (probably still does) at the Temple of Beelzebub.

KIndred spirit for the Chairman then!
mortonjag 2008-02-15 07:24:13
QUOTE(Exiled Scot @ Feb 15 2008, 06:29 AM) [snapback]403898[/snapback]
I don’t think any prospective manager who is worth talking to will be unaware of the vacancy as JM’s departure has made National News. I don’t think any prospective employee worth talking to will not check out the website of the company they wish to work for. Having it advertised on the official simply gives the details of where and to whom to apply.

This is a feeble attempt to highlight the shortcoming and lack of professionalism of Morton and Douglas Rae in an ongoing (and frankly boring) slur campaign. It is becoming worryingly close to an obsession with some (one) contributors on here.

Mea culpa! I've always been obsessive-it's the least of my sins.

Bored-read a good book or something-maybe one that will enable you to understand the meaning of the word 'professionalism'.

Unfortunately, no amount of reading will give you the perception you clearly lack. wink.gif



mortonjag 2008-02-15 07:34:39 The sun has got his hat on
Hip hip hip hooray
The sun has got his hat on
And he'll shine on Dougie Rae

Welcome back auld Shoogly
Why were you away
The sun has got his hat on
And he'll shine on you all day

The sun has got his hat on
Everyone is gay
In boozers in the Broomy
and those posh pads in Wemyss Bay

The sun has got his hat on
Tomorrow's Saturday
Someones due a humping
As we drive across the Tay

Welcome back auld Shoogly
Why were you away
Lets put he past behind us
Well at least for one more day wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-15 08:47:58
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Feb 15 2008, 08:30 AM) [snapback]403925[/snapback]
Poetically good but technically incorrect - DDF came back yesterday afternoon... tongue.gif rolleyes.gif laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-02-15 08:51:53
QUOTE(jag-ton @ Feb 15 2008, 07:43 AM) [snapback]403914[/snapback]
Sorry forza - I am not MortonJag.

Anyway, last night I went out on the town with my new friend R2D2. That guy has all the gossip (apparently C3PO is gay - who'd have guessed that?). After overindulging a bit on the old battery-acid, we took a trip to the home of DDFR to see if my x-ray vision could uncover any scandal that would further prove his incompetence in running our club. Frankly, I was shocked. DDFR and his wife were in bed together. Fast asleep. Fully clothed. Not only that, but they had a cat in the room with them. I'll leave you to draw your own conclusions, but to me this proves that he has finally lost the plot and must be removed from office poste-haste (to use a phrase that he might use in his program notes).

My database of evidence is starting to take shape.

Jag-Ton

Scandal-Cappie and Mrs Rae! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-15 08:55:02
QUOTE(jimmy boag delivers @ Feb 15 2008, 08:20 AM) [snapback]403919[/snapback]
I thought it was only the Yanks that called it a "stiff whiskey"

Don't know why though...just like I don't know why they call a toilet a bathroom. And their trousers "pants" and a bum-bag is a "fannypack".

???

....and lunatics-President.
mortonjag 2008-02-15 08:56:25
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 15 2008, 08:18 AM) [snapback]403917[/snapback]
stiff = strong, potent

stiff=transient, infrequent, but NOT in frequently.
mortonjag 2008-02-15 08:57:24
QUOTE(The Guv @ Feb 15 2008, 08:43 AM) [snapback]403931[/snapback]
To hide his allegiences to Rangers.

Simple as that.

A Rangers fan with a soft spot for his local side.

Do you know him Guv?
mortonjag 2008-02-15 09:18:32
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Feb 15 2008, 09:15 AM) [snapback]403938[/snapback]
Just wondering if Gazza will be interested in the job this time around.

He has had managerial experiance since the last time when he phoned up Mr Rae enquiring about it during a match

I think he may-he used to live in Kilbarchan.
mortonjag 2008-02-15 09:47:17
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 15 2008, 09:38 AM) [snapback]403947[/snapback]
this has went completely over my head, and ive never been gladder of anything in my life.

Like the proverbial giraffe's baws PT!
mortonjag 2008-02-15 10:16:42
QUOTE(aimlesswanderer @ Feb 15 2008, 09:44 AM) [snapback]403951[/snapback]
I remember the Gazza thing last time round - very surreal. And Chick Young's hot tip was for a dream team of Gerry Collins and Andy Ritchie. I don't think JM's name was mentioned until just before his appointment.

I can also remember Ian Durrant being tipped to become player manager (think it was after McGraw left).

Was he not a drummer for the Blockhead Bears?
mortonjag 2008-02-15 10:19:41
QUOTE(princessTON @ Feb 15 2008, 10:16 AM) [snapback]403964[/snapback]
im confident the players will be up for this game and i think we will win 2-1

C'MON YE TON
mortonjag 2008-02-15 10:58:57
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Feb 15 2008, 10:43 AM) [snapback]403975[/snapback]
Absolutely shocking. You'd think the junkie postman would have had time to open all the cards looking for money and have nicked all the presents. Standards are clearly slipping.

Whether or not he was a 'junkie postman' they were clearly for delivery by van-too wide an area for a local postie.
mortonjag 2008-02-15 11:05:19
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 15 2008, 10:45 AM) [snapback]403977[/snapback]
2-1 Dundee, McInally may have gone, but his assistant is still in charge. Why would that make any difference to the fact we've been playing s***e?

C'mon man- it is a fresh start for the players-do you know what the relationship is between the players and MC? Maybe it's OK, and even if it's not they know he's only a figurehead.

I can't see why they won't be up for this game. I believe we have turned the corner. Tomorrow Jenkins will be the real manager.

mortonjag 2008-02-15 11:07:18
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 15 2008, 10:38 AM) [snapback]403973[/snapback]
But if he does well, Robert Cochrane will call him 'the Duffster', the opposite end of the spectrum. sad.gif

I was thinking of 'Plum'.
mortonjag 2008-02-15 11:09:55
QUOTE(Torro @ Feb 15 2008, 11:06 AM) [snapback]403981[/snapback]
Loved the description of the lad who found the mail - local rabbit hunter ! laugh.gif

Elmer Fudd of Bogston braes.


Hey-you can say fudd.
mortonjag 2008-02-15 11:38:46
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 15 2008, 11:14 AM) [snapback]403984[/snapback]
Good.

You're a fudd. tongue.gif

An old fudd, don't you mean?
mortonjag 2008-02-15 11:47:16
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Feb 15 2008, 11:25 AM) [snapback]403986[/snapback]
No matter who comes in there will be folk on here that will still moan even if the team do well. They will wait for things to go wrong wont have been on here for long enough and then boom they will come on and say told you so. I belive the next manager will need time and the fans need to get behind the team.

The only task the new manager has at the start is to finish clear of relegation. It should be pretty clear after his first two or three games if things have improved-and I honestly don't think there's much chance they won't-no matter who comes in.

IMO the players had got into a rut with JM in charge. He's gone and they have a fresh start. I don't think they'll disappoint us.
mortonjag 2008-02-15 11:57:17 Hmm-don't know what to think now. My source meets him regularly and she believes he's a Ton fan, but Stu claims to have inside knowledge which makes sense-looks like Geordie boy is a closet Hun, and using his genuine Ton sympathies to promote his career.

Is that fair?
mortonjag 2008-02-15 12:20:43
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Feb 15 2008, 12:07 PM) [snapback]404003[/snapback]
Yep, a few fudd's around tongue.gif

Belgian chocolate fudd


Yummy!
mortonjag 2008-02-15 12:37:28
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 15 2008, 12:23 PM) [snapback]404005[/snapback]
You can say fud too tongue.gif

laugh.gif

Must say I always been impressed by a double D.

Can you also say Diddy?
mortonjag 2008-02-15 12:40:02
QUOTE(tommydoc @ Feb 15 2008, 12:27 PM) [snapback]404007[/snapback]
Robert's choice of nicknames usually has no link whatsoever to the person that the nickname has been attributed to. So for Jim Duffy expect something like 'Hedgehog' or some other totally random word.

True-Jim's never a p***k.

or a fudd!
mortonjag 2008-02-15 12:58:03
QUOTE(The Shuffler @ Feb 15 2008, 12:51 PM) [snapback]404016[/snapback]
This has happened a few times in Greenock too.

I used to work in a place beside St Laurences school & one of my colleagues desk looked out onto the school, whilst having her coffee one morning she noticed a postman on the wasteground next to the school,thinking he was taking a shortcut, when he stopped, gave a quick glance around ,then proceeded to dump the contacts of his mailbag into the wee burn which runs down there !

A quick phonecall to GPO from my colleague quickly identified the culprit, seemed it wasn't just the once he done it either. The reason (given in the press later ), was that "he couldn't be bothered finishing his rounds !"

Generally pissed off?
mortonjag 2008-02-15 13:01:00
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Feb 15 2008, 12:45 PM) [snapback]404013[/snapback]
What happens if they don't?

Do the TTG campaigns start up again? rolleyes.gif

They WILL-we must remain positive-one game at a time. I'm not even prepared to contemplate anything else.
mortonjag 2008-02-15 13:04:35
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Feb 15 2008, 12:46 PM) [snapback]404014[/snapback]
What are you slavering about now? blink.gif

Anyway, I really hope that he doesn't start dishing out nicknames again. His are even worse than your 'Leafy' creation MJ.

FUDDS
mortonjag 2008-02-15 13:06:21
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 15 2008, 12:54 PM) [snapback]404018[/snapback]
Maybe cos he's the only one who asked to do it? Why don't you apply, if it concerns you?

He's much too busy at his chosen occupation!
mortonjag 2008-02-15 13:13:52
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 15 2008, 01:03 PM) [snapback]404022[/snapback]
Let's not go that far. laugh.gif Awaits another PM from Phil Cannie rolleyes.gif

I always remember the fans singing

Posh Spice is a slapper
She's got a mingin' fanny
And when she's shagging David
She thinks of Philip Cannie

Hey-we did sing in those days.

Let's sing again tomorrow

Posh Spice is a slapper
It takes two c***s to fill 'er
And when she's shagging David
She thinks of wee Midge Millar

unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-15 13:22:41
QUOTE(eehbahton @ Feb 15 2008, 01:11 PM) [snapback]404028[/snapback]
Not optimistic of any kind of result. Dundee to win 2-0 without breaking sweat.
Hope I'm wrong but I think we are in freefall to the 2nd division.

BLOODY HELL-do you not read the news?

Are you sitting comfortably-then I'll begin-

Once upon a time there was a football side who were playing badly. Sometimes they played very well, but most times they played badly. The story goes that the wicked wizard of Monifieth had cast an evil spell on them, and try as they might they were unable to escape the all pervading power of his expressionless face.

One fine day the wicked wizard came to his senses-'enough of this wickedness', he thought-'I will go somewhere else and try to be good'.

And so it was that the football side who mostly played badly started to mostly play well. And everyone was happy ever after.
mortonjag 2008-02-15 13:29:12
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Feb 15 2008, 01:20 PM) [snapback]404032[/snapback]
YES INDEED - cos I am in fact the poet laureate...

Neddy-those things you get at Lunderston Bay are called rosettes-not laurel wreaths!
mortonjag 2008-02-15 13:37:13
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 15 2008, 01:08 PM) [snapback]404025[/snapback]
ohmy.gif ohmy.gif Shockerooney. Heard of a guy in Barrhead who was getting charged a while back for doing something similar, although I think he was hording the mail in his house. It affected some mail that i had sent.

It would NEVER have happened in Postman Pat's day. What's happening?
mortonjag 2008-02-15 13:39:59
QUOTE(cmdc @ Feb 15 2008, 01:16 PM) [snapback]404030[/snapback]
My favourite was

Posh spice is a slapper
Not like her mate Geri
and when she's shagging Beckham,
she screams Bottiglieri!

Can it be that it was all so simple then? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-15 13:41:50
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Feb 15 2008, 01:38 PM) [snapback]404038[/snapback]
If he does come then we can have the "skull and crossbone" Morton supporters club...well I think there is a likeness.

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDBonehead!
mortonjag 2008-02-15 13:59:37
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 15 2008, 01:43 PM) [snapback]404041[/snapback]
I like that. We should call him Hedgehog

Tilly headline


HEDGEHOG HAILS HERO HARDING! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-15 14:07:18
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 15 2008, 01:48 PM) [snapback]404043[/snapback]
Mind you Jess always looked a bit fishy biggrin.gif

True-but those were principled people-people who always delivered the giros on time and kept the bills till the next day-people who didn't leave little bits of rubber all over the place after they'd been on the job-people who served Queen and Country no less.

Whatever has become of us?
mortonjag 2008-02-15 14:09:38
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 15 2008, 01:51 PM) [snapback]404047[/snapback]
TBH I haven't been in the Norseman for years, due to the fact that i drive to most home games now. But on the occassions that i did frequent it, it was always a bit of a hole, but the atmosphere was always good. Typical mans pub I always thought. Nowt wrong with that.

unsure.gif

laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-15 14:44:43
QUOTE(jimmy boag delivers @ Feb 15 2008, 02:36 PM) [snapback]404054[/snapback]
From memory he just played sh1t.

Every week.

Moving off the point a bit, I remember the week Millen was in the Daily Record spouting his "family man" credentials - only to get a red card in his next for us for using foul and abusive language! Aye, he was setting a good example to the kids in the crowd that day.

Millen is not the answer. We need an experienced head with a proven track record.

Schumacher's old helmet may be available.
mortonjag 2008-02-15 14:56:01
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Feb 15 2008, 11:38 AM) [snapback]403990[/snapback]
Your days as a Dr must have been wasted my good friend! wink.gif

Do you do requests?

Maybe ............

One about "McInally on the Swally"

I am sure you could come up with some even better ones blink.gif tongue.gif

Just spoke to a bloke who's quite pally
With ex 'Ton' boss Jim McInally
When asked, came the answer
They're b*****ds, thae fans are
It really wiz too much tae swally
mortonjag 2008-02-15 15:44:02
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 15 2008, 03:16 PM) [snapback]404066[/snapback]
Not going to any more on the matter.

Peter Weatherson has the same number of league goals this season as Chris Aitken.

Tomorrow is a new day! 'Mon ye TON!!!
mortonjag 2008-02-15 15:53:49
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 15 2008, 03:03 PM) [snapback]404060[/snapback]
Have you got it in a pickle jar?

Are you Schumacher's doctor ?


Gentlemen-I believe he's still alive, and despite your macabre interest I don't pickle severed heads-formaldehyde is getting far too expensive.

I've discovered it's best to freeze dry them. They don't take up too much space, though 'she' insists they are kept at least two millimetres away from the custard.
mortonjag 2008-02-15 15:58:35
QUOTE(foobs the elder @ Feb 15 2008, 03:52 PM) [snapback]404077[/snapback]
Enjoyable post good Dr

however I don't think Pam Ayres will lose any sleep

Foobs biggrin.gif

Pam Ayres and poetry should never be mentioned in the same sentence Foobs-I guess you must have been charmed by that wee wicked smile she always used in apology.

How to make money from mince without being a butcher! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-15 16:04:32
QUOTE(Bryan @ Feb 15 2008, 03:38 PM) [snapback]404070[/snapback]
For a country with 42 teams we have had 13 managers leave the jobs they had, anyone think thats a lot.

John Collins: Hibs - Resigned
Jim McInally: Morton - Resigned
Dick Campbell: Ross County - Sacked
John Coughlin: Berwick - Stenny
Campbell Money: Stenny - Sacked
Gerry McCabe: Dumbarton - Sacked
Stephen Kenny: Dunfermline - Sacked
Gerry Britton: Stran - Thistle assitant
Colin Hendry: Clyde - Sacked
Owen Coyle: St Johnstone - Burnely
Neil Watt: Ayr - Resigned
Billy Stark: Queens Park - Scotland u21s
Anotoly Korobochka: Hearts - moved back upstairs

Because he couldn't do his job?
mortonjag 2008-02-15 16:26:25
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 15 2008, 04:08 PM) [snapback]404081[/snapback]
Head? I thought you were talking about his helmet.

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I missed that completely Mr Edwards-indeed I do pickle the helmets in virgin balsamic vinegar.

Very good on the chips!
mortonjag 2008-02-15 16:28:47 It just needs somebody with a big bugle to start us off!
mortonjag 2008-02-15 20:35:15
QUOTE(Edinton @ Feb 15 2008, 04:45 PM) [snapback]404095[/snapback]
"it's not what you say it's the way that you say it...and that's what life's about..."

OH-who signed AdamCoakley? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-15 20:40:05
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 15 2008, 07:08 PM) [snapback]404127[/snapback]
Gidday Donga,

was that meant to be an oxymoron ?

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Alliterative oxymoron I suspect Newt-nice to see you have risen again!
mortonjag 2008-02-15 20:58:09
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 15 2008, 08:20 PM) [snapback]404168[/snapback]
People in glass houses. Rab gets slated on here all the time and all he does is write a lot of nonsense in the Record once a week. At least the rubbish he writes has gone through some sort of thought process before going in. It's mainly nonsense but it's Foucault compared to the dross on here.
I've not been on here for a while due to work and this board reads like a messageboard for the mentally ill.

Really Mr McArthur, and where's the wondrous virtue in a 'thought process'?

I'm sure a scabby dug goes through some 'thought process' before it decides where to do the s*** which you slip on and break your supercilious neck.

Oh, and BTW, many mentally ill people are highly intelligent and creative-myself included!
mortonjag 2008-02-15 21:09:02
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 15 2008, 08:55 PM) [snapback]404187[/snapback]
Sorry to be a pedant but those songs were classics and need to be preserved in their original forms. tongue.gif

Oh Dear JonaTon-when you're half deaf and sit in the stand you sometimes miss the finer points!

Posh Spice is a slapper
Wi' plastic tits and wallies
And when she's sookin' Beckam's
She lies and dreams o' Khali's.
mortonjag 2008-02-15 21:13:41
QUOTE(craigeton @ Feb 15 2008, 09:02 PM) [snapback]404192[/snapback]
I think this is Rae's best chance to pick a team himself and I think he will. He has obviously had an influence in past teams and I think that before a new manager comes in and (hopefully) tells him to keep his nose out of team affairs, he will not be able to stop himself. I think we might just see a few surprises tomorrow.

I expect us to do well.
mortonjag 2008-02-15 21:17:40
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 15 2008, 09:02 PM) [snapback]404191[/snapback]
You're not mentally ill, you're just dull.

Spoken with authority by the scintillating Mr McArthur.

I AM mentally ill, by the way-how dare you question my diagnosis?
mortonjag 2008-02-15 22:01:12
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 15 2008, 09:21 PM) [snapback]404209[/snapback]
laugh.gif

It's folk like you that give metal illness a bad name.

Oh I do my best for the cause!
mortonjag 2008-02-15 22:04:58
QUOTE(Flyerton @ Feb 15 2008, 09:22 PM) [snapback]404210[/snapback]
Hey Doc. I hear you have retired.

As a general medical question though, can you think of anything that can help moderate cervical spondylosis? Occasionally noises from the vertabrae in question can be heard with a rotation starting with the occipital.

There are dozens of different treatments, but ultimately it's a degenerative process. I'd be daft to even make a suggestion unless I knew more about your individual circumstances.
mortonjag 2008-02-15 22:06:14
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 15 2008, 09:26 PM) [snapback]404215[/snapback]
Physiotherapy or manipumative therapy would probably be the best bet.

Also known as 'big cat' therapy!
mortonjag 2008-02-15 22:12:49
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 15 2008, 09:55 AM) [snapback]403959[/snapback]
laugh.gif Starting to go that way for me to mate.

I think jaggy bott may have crashed Weegie! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-15 22:17:07
QUOTE(888 @ Feb 15 2008, 09:56 PM) [snapback]404232[/snapback]
toby is most likely the only orgasm his father has regretted two faced turd gives me earache
for giving his numpty wee mate a dig [a guy he ignored for quite a while not too long ago]
and now he starts to berate a wee guy who has been about The Ton since he was a ball boy aged 8. So nob just you get you wee girlie fingers tapping and post an apology See you at Dundee.

Do you dislike Toby?
mortonjag 2008-02-15 22:18:41 We have a game tomorrow, and nobody seems interested!


C'mon ye TON!
mortonjag 2008-02-15 22:23:50
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 15 2008, 10:21 PM) [snapback]404242[/snapback]
I'm in Dundee, and let me tell you that excitement among the Greenockian contingent here has reached fever pitch already.

Sort of.

How many of you are there?
mortonjag 2008-02-15 22:27:53
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Feb 15 2008, 09:55 PM) [snapback]404231[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(big B @ Feb 15 2008, 08:04 AM) [snapback]404061[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I may get shot down for this why not ask John Mccormack to come back all the back stabbers have left the club.
I always thought McCormack done well at cappielow, obviously we blew it that season during the player revolt and betting scandal and this had the after effects from it. He did get us playing well during his time, the only problem is that our players are fragile enough after the terrible run(s) this year that a shouty in yer face hairdryer manager(remember him slating stewart mcdonald for a bad throw in at ross county in the cup) may not be right. We need someone who has got respect as a footballer(for me thats JD) and hopefully a diplomatic persona when dealing with us and the board.
Whoever it is including some of the cabbages mentioned as a support we have got to give him 100% support as this is more important than a petty point scoring mission.

It's only reasonable to give any new manager enough time to prove himself one way or the other. Unfair criticism in the early stages is just as bad as blind allegiance in the latter.
mortonjag 2008-02-15 22:31:38
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 15 2008, 10:24 PM) [snapback]404244[/snapback]
Five, two of whom are going to the match. laugh.gif

Two more will join us tomorrow.

Wish I was there-the atmosphere here is dead-can't understand it. After the misery of last Saturday and the strange goings on during the week, we have a fresh start. I thought our fans would grasp the opportunity to prove the doubters wrong, but it's been the worst build up to an away game all season.

Most peculiar! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-15 23:02:40
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Feb 15 2008, 10:46 PM) [snapback]404254[/snapback]
Jag..... please could you start replying to posts all in the one post? Please? sad.gif

Just hit the wee QUOTE button on the post you want to quote, could be one, could be several. Then simply click ADD REPLY, and voila...

laugh.gif

I always forget how to do that-anyway-what's wrong with individual replies?
mortonjag 2008-02-15 23:04:38
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Feb 15 2008, 10:50 PM) [snapback]404257[/snapback]
Ach, Andy Bryan is harmless. I mind he was attempting to fire into the missus and asked for her phone number in the Spinnaker at a players' do and my brother offered to write it on his forehead with a ballpoint pen. Brilliant.

Is that the same as 'a joke'? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-15 23:07:42
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Feb 15 2008, 10:48 PM) [snapback]404256[/snapback]
It's simply mission accomplished for many on here, now McInally has quit. not much for them to talk about! smile.gif

I was wondering about that myself. I could, of course, have a pop at Mr Rae, and all hell would break loose, but there's an amnesty at present, and I hope our victory tomorrow will keep that in place.
mortonjag 2008-02-15 23:11:09
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 15 2008, 11:01 PM) [snapback]404265[/snapback]
Have youse two got a web cam link? laugh.gif

We do NOT share each others sausages Mr Edwards!
mortonjag 2008-02-15 23:13:20
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Feb 15 2008, 11:10 PM) [snapback]404273[/snapback]
I hope your right.........about the victory that is!

Guaranteed-all the signs are right-Dundee just off a great cup victory-Morton just shed a manager.

Classic coupon buster!
mortonjag 2008-02-15 23:17:01
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Feb 15 2008, 11:12 PM) [snapback]404275[/snapback]
Fab and even merits a significant and very seldom used smiley from me - biggrin.gif

TY Santa-I am embarrassed-not often I get praise from a Saint! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-15 23:18:14
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Feb 15 2008, 11:16 PM) [snapback]404280[/snapback]
That would be individual replies, just in one post....

It would indeed save money on the stamps! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-15 23:21:41 I haven't a clue who our worst manager was, but given how far the squad and facilities were ahead of the pack, Jim McInally certainly rates in my book as the least experienced, and slowest to progress.
mortonjag 2008-02-15 23:23:52
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Feb 15 2008, 11:20 PM) [snapback]404283[/snapback]
Indeed MJ - consider oneself very fortunate!

Are you on the Glasgow run this Christmas BTW?

It's just that my present bike's getting a wee bit rusty, and I'd love a decent ride.
mortonjag 2008-02-15 23:25:35
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 15 2008, 11:22 PM) [snapback]404285[/snapback]
I remember a while back going into Dens park with HS in front of me at the gate. He turned round and said 'This is going to be a coupon buster'. That's exactly how it turned out, Craig McPherson played a blinder that day. If I knew then what I came to know later, I would've burst HS's coupon as well.

HS will get his come uppance DE-God is on our side!

Anyway it's past the monkey's bedtime. Tomorrow at this hour the board will still be buzzing with pleasure. Once again we will be Morton-super Morton! sleep.gif

Goodnight and sweet dreams.
mortonjag 2008-02-16 07:49:16
QUOTE(888 @ Feb 15 2008, 11:28 PM) [snapback]404289[/snapback]
knew him as a young lad who visited his gran in millport and until recently found him to be a
fine young lad and have now seen an other side of him with mostly vicious bile being spouted
at all and sundry every time i see him at a match, then watch as he gets chucked out i find it a wee bit distressing as i know what he could be an articulate and knowlegable critic who with more decorum could put his case forward in a less agressive manner.

I sense you may feel he needs psychological help.
mortonjag 2008-02-16 08:02:38
QUOTE(Lifelongfan @ Feb 16 2008, 03:14 AM) [snapback]404335[/snapback]
As you can see I don't 'do' many posts, however I've got to say that the moron, that is MJ, needs to have a good look in the mirror and give a good talking to the reflection he sees, maybe he'll then find the captive audience he so obviously seeks with all his arrogant postings overe the years?? Is it really years he's been using this forum to spout his waffle?



laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

I'm not sure I like the 'ignorant' bit, mind you.

Just a wee question. Has Mortonjag done something to offend you personally, or are you just another of the board's wannabe censors?

I've recently been accused of 'attacking other posters' and have pointed out that I NEVER attack without provocation.

I'm giving you the chance to let me know if I have caused PERSONAL offence.

If not, you are clearly just another sad fool drawn to MJ's keyboard persona like a moth to a candle flame.
Keeps the pot boiling-that does!
mortonjag 2008-02-16 08:07:34
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 16 2008, 04:57 AM) [snapback]404336[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

that is rather poor grammar for a former pupil of PGS.

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True Newt-since you've been gone I have got sloppy about many things!
mortonjag 2008-02-16 08:17:41 In all the time I've been posting, I can't remember so little interest in an important game. Is everybody 'burned out' after the week's comings and goings?

Anyway, what do you think of this wee commercial idea?

The club is saving a fair bit right now on a manager's salary. That would easily fund an additional £100 per player win bonus today.

I reckon it's a win, win situation-no payout without three points, and a victory today will put an extra two or three hundred bums on seats next week. That income could again fund an identical bonus AND leave us in pocket.


C'MON YE TON
mortonjag 2008-02-16 08:23:47
QUOTE(mfc_millar_mfc @ Feb 16 2008, 08:00 AM) [snapback]404346[/snapback]
Fire has destroyed the Ramada Jarvis

Is that the Hotel at McInroy's Point?
mortonjag 2008-02-16 08:43:37
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 16 2008, 08:21 AM) [snapback]404351[/snapback]
I suggest you come to your senses.

You have a BIG day ahead of you.

Do you think McInally will be at Dens Park ?

huh.gif huh.gif huh.gif

I imagine that's the last place on earth he'd want to be today. I'll guarantee he'll be high tailing it out of Dundee mid morning to take in the game at Parkhead (if he's not gone off on holiday).
mortonjag 2008-02-16 08:45:35
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 16 2008, 08:27 AM) [snapback]404355[/snapback]
I'll pass the message on to him, when I see him at 10.

Brave '888' built up the courage to post on the unofficial board. He'll be upset. sad.gif

At least post your name if you're gonna do that.
PS I love that you chose to call someone articulate, and then misspell "knowledgeable" and "aggressive". laugh.gif

I think 'brave' 888 did identify himself in one of his earlier posts-could be wrong mind!
mortonjag 2008-02-16 08:47:11
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Feb 16 2008, 08:24 AM) [snapback]404353[/snapback]
Collective exhaustion has set in after the last few months furious wankfest.

Incentives are often good but a few good players would be better smile.gif

It won't improve their ability TT, but could fire them up!
mortonjag 2008-02-16 08:50:55
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 16 2008, 08:47 AM) [snapback]404366[/snapback]
You're missing the point Greg, that's how you get to be the author of 14,000 posts. He gets four posts for the price of one. But he is mentally ill I suppose.

Jeezo-this McArthur man has the perception and wisdom of Solomon.

Maybe his friend on the 'Ranger' should call him 'Plankton'.
mortonjag 2008-02-16 08:53:23
QUOTE(mfc_millar_mfc @ Feb 16 2008, 08:43 AM) [snapback]404361[/snapback]
thats what one of the guys was saying and that now they have no excuse not to build the flats.

Wonder what started it ?

Who? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-16 08:59:19
QUOTE(Danger_Mouse @ Feb 16 2008, 08:56 AM) [snapback]404369[/snapback]
Jewish Lightning?

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mortonjag 2008-02-16 09:02:41
QUOTE(mfc_millar_mfc @ Feb 16 2008, 08:59 AM) [snapback]404372[/snapback]
Ok wonder who started it?

It could be any of a number of interested parties-perhaps a disenchanted employee of their insurance company? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-16 09:16:01
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 16 2008, 09:09 AM) [snapback]404375[/snapback]
Surely 'Plankster' would be more his style?

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Haven't a clue Mr McArthur-I've never read his column.

Is he a regular contributor, or do his pieces appear without warning?
mortonjag 2008-02-16 09:18:19
QUOTE(Danger_Mouse @ Feb 16 2008, 09:16 AM) [snapback]404377[/snapback]
funnily enough the building is owned by Norwich Union - or it was when it was open!

AHA-the c*nts who wouldn't pay out on Shergar!

Insurance companies are among my top five 'hates'!
mortonjag 2008-02-16 10:12:56
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Feb 16 2008, 09:30 AM) [snapback]404380[/snapback]
They act as bookies? unsure.gif

Guess they DO in a sense Mr Bam.

I watched a documentary about yon' cuddy a while back. Shergar's ex trainer left the Norwich Union without a name.

I also has a long running fight with them after we had a burglary in the Mearns, which I 'kinda' won! I don't suppose they are any better or worse than the rest.
mortonjag 2008-02-16 10:17:28
QUOTE(jag-ton @ Feb 16 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]404383[/snapback]
Haven't crashed, my human friend. My learning circuits have taught me only to post when there's something worth saying. It's a very simple rule. It's a pity I can't download it onto some human brains, isn't it?

Jag-Ton

Ha-the deviousness of human programmes Jaggy Bott-you said we'd be hearing a lot from you and that you were on course for 15,000 posts.

Will you be in your usual position at Dens? wink.gif

Do more to keep us in the picture!
mortonjag 2008-02-16 10:20:10
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Feb 16 2008, 10:02 AM) [snapback]404384[/snapback]
I don't think we have saved any money. I am sure that DDFR will see McInally/Clark alright and we will start employing a new management team shortly I assume on about the same money.

As he resigned I would not think he would get his year's salary pay off but suppose he got 3 months salary just as an illustration. If we have a new manager in place by next week then the two week period without a manager will have cost us 3 months salary so we are approx two and a half months salary down.

I do however, think that incentivising the players may be a good move and we might just catch Dundee on the rebound after their cup victory.

Back to my original speculation that it wasn't as simple as JM 'walking away'.

Allan Jenkins states in today's 'Sun' that he thinks it had been on the cards for a couple of weeks before he signed.
mortonjag 2008-02-16 10:21:25
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 16 2008, 10:16 AM) [snapback]404387[/snapback]
if an extra £100 is the difference between our players winning and losing then they shouldnt be playing for us in the first place.

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In that case we may as well ask them to forego their salaries for the good of the club! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-17 09:58:56
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 16 2008, 10:54 AM) [snapback]404405[/snapback]
our metal friend has a superior sense of irony, grasshopper smile.gif

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mortonjag 2008-02-17 10:05:42
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 16 2008, 10:51 AM) [snapback]404403[/snapback]
Have to agree with my auld pal Dongo here, over the past year or so this has went from being a Morton website to a MortonJag website.

I like you, and occasionally agree with you, but not fecking 14,000 times. You posted something pretty uncontroversial the other day, and my first thought was heres another six pages of self-satisfaction coming up. And i was right.

You're a nutter.

Can't argue with that! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-17 10:15:30
QUOTE(The Bewilderedbeast @ Feb 17 2008, 01:50 AM) [snapback]405080[/snapback]
I was in the Directors Box today as a guest of the Dundee CEO, after the game everyone connected with Dundee agreed it was one of the worst decisions they'd seen and that Chris clearlywon the ball.

Agreed but Mr Muir might just have been huffy because he argued back after already booked.
mortonjag 2008-02-17 10:21:04 I was surprised to hear Davie Irons mentioned as a candidate-did Gretna know he wanted away prior to that?
mortonjag 2008-02-17 10:28:31
QUOTE(McInally`s Monkey @ Feb 16 2008, 10:45 PM) [snapback]404953[/snapback]
Allegedly, Stevenson had told McInally on several occasions since his injury that he wasn't fit enough yet. Despite this, McInally (again, allegedly) refused to believe him and was still included in most squads, playing some games whilst unfit.

Maybe Martin Clark believes him and is allowing him to get fit. Believe me if you like but I believe that he believes him

What happened to the state of the art training facilities and regular fitness check ups at Dundee University?

Surely all that wondrous stuff should have made the decision rather than JM or the player!

Fact is Jamie was dynamite with Alloa-and his attitude there was bang on.
mortonjag 2008-02-17 10:39:07
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 17 2008, 12:17 AM) [snapback]405005[/snapback]
I was at the same game as you. We were inept, a clueless shambles in fact. We can't defend and we can't score. The new manager will have a lot of work to do within a very short space of time if we are to survive in this division.

Clueless-yes

Shambles-no

The thing that pleased me most yesterday was the fans' attitude-behind the boys from beginning to end, outshouted the Dees (not that that was hard), supported Midge when he was red carded, and made a fair bit of noise for two or three hundred.

I also enjoyed the sunny weather, even if it was chilly.

Morton played a good deal of attractive passing football, and never stopped trying. I was puzzled by some of the selections, mind you, and what was really wrong yesterday was a total lack of shape and game plan.

We surely have to take positives-the BBC commentator felt that we have the bones of a good side. Get the right manager in and we'll start to improve.


Just a wee post script for Mr Rae.

Did you think the home support were any good yesterday? Why were they so quiet until they heard that Hamilton were losing?

I was wondering if it was because they weren't being entertained, but then again I might be wrong.
mortonjag 2008-02-17 10:50:03 Alcohol loosens up social inhibitions-some become jolly and 'soul of the party' others behave like arseholes.

Quite simple really.
mortonjag 2008-02-17 10:55:11 Maybe if he got some plastic surgery, high heeled fitba bits, and a 'baldy', and started scoring three goals a game for us as our new foreigner Macho Nono, some folk would quite like him.
mortonjag 2008-02-17 10:56:22
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 17 2008, 10:13 AM) [snapback]405129[/snapback]
MJ do you really have mental health problems or are you joking?

Look up my personal details!

Some people have been unkind.
mortonjag 2008-02-17 10:58:57
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 17 2008, 10:00 AM) [snapback]405126[/snapback]
At the end they all one by one clapped the fans. Great gesture. Maybe they see what we see, and its time to build back relationships between us all.

Cheer guys!! Hopefullly we have all turned that corner, fans and players alike.

The atmosphere was good yesterday Sean, and hopefully it will carry over to next Saturday with a new manager in place.

Mind you those were the AWAY supporters-I believe Mr Rae thinks they don't attend home games.


MON YE TON.
mortonjag 2008-02-17 11:02:46 It will amuse me no end if Davie McGurn plays a 'blinder' against St Johnstone.

He will then become an international class goalie, with the blind fools who are currently slagging him off. Well for a wee while anyway! dry.gif

Guys-have you not noticed something has changed at Cappielow?

This is NOT the time to be undermining the players' confidence.
mortonjag 2008-02-17 11:10:02
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 17 2008, 11:01 AM) [snapback]405164[/snapback]
I'm liking all the "oh he has calmed down" stuff in the thread with people using it as a reason he should come back!

Bollocks, even if he has calmed down that has simply put him at a level of competence he should have been at when he first came to Morton.

If one thing I hate it is people who have the ability and squander it! He deserves to be playing in the second division with Ayr in my opinion!

Puggs-that's a very damning generalisation.

In my experience most people who squander their talents do not deliberately go out to do so.

Talking of pet hates, I find people who don't know their limitations quite irritating-we have several of those on our little forum-your good self not included of course!
mortonjag 2008-02-17 11:54:51
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 17 2008, 11:33 AM) [snapback]405195[/snapback]
Aye but for something like a professional footballer they know they have the talent. With Williams case we signed him on a decent fee and brought him full time at the age of what? 19? And then he was banging in goals for fun and being heralded left, right and centre. Then - almost like flicking a switch in his head - it all ended.

There will always be people who have an ability and choose not to use it but when that ability seems to be something you love and gives you a livlihood, well to throw that away is just an awful thing to see!

Pop stars are perhaps the most common example. It IS tragic-whether they all 'choose' to throw their careers away is a moot point.
mortonjag 2008-02-17 11:57:22
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 17 2008, 11:50 AM) [snapback]405216[/snapback]
i take it youre not an accountant? laugh.gif

Naughty! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-17 12:02:05
QUOTE(jag-ton @ Feb 17 2008, 11:58 AM) [snapback]405225[/snapback]
My pun-detectors are overloading (but that _was_ a good one wink.gif )

Incidentally, interesting to see that my campaign for irrationality is catching on in other threads.......apparently fans fighting each other is a good thing.......maybe we should encourage more "demonstrations of passion" like this. I will endeavour to provide every fan with a taser-gun. If he sees anything he doesn't like at Cappielow (from the chariman to the players to other fans) then <zap> - 50,000volts later the problem is solved.

Jag-Ton

What's wrong with a Kalashnikov jaggy bott? You and your bloody new fangled technology.

BTW-had yer nookie recently?
mortonjag 2008-02-17 12:04:54
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 17 2008, 12:02 PM) [snapback]405229[/snapback]
I voted No.

As much as i like the guy, he hasn't been actively involved in Football for a long time now and if we brought him back and it didn't work out, it could spoil a lot of folks happy memories of the guy from a previous era.

He is now a successful businessman, i doubt if he'd have the time to dedicate to a £30k a year tracksuit job, his boozer would probably have that kind of turnover each week, and healthy profits each year.

Surely that is a GOOD thing-Rooney may be 64, but he's still got the same brain and attitude to life.

Alex Ferguson's much older AND a successful businessman too.
mortonjag 2008-02-17 12:10:30
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Feb 17 2008, 11:28 AM) [snapback]405191[/snapback]
I fully agree. There were only about 4/5 of them but they had a disproportionate effect compared to the rest of us who were right behind the team.

We were sitting pretty far left and I think further down, and didn't hear any dissent at all. Well done to the singers-I joined in and my brother was 'takin the piss' at my new found career as a Pavarotti!
mortonjag 2008-02-17 12:15:11
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 17 2008, 12:11 PM) [snapback]405241[/snapback]
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Eh?

I'm gobsmacked, i really am.

Its okay for the players to be careless, thoughtless, heartless and spineless reptiles who dont give a f*** for those who are paying their wages or paying their good hard earned cash to see them, because its only a job?

If they want a job where they dont need to care, just turn up for a wage then they should all f*** off and work for the DHSS or the Councils or something like that, NOT play for football for Morton.

Playing football is more than a job, playing football for MORTON is not a job, it is an honour and a privilege and this shower of s***e would do well to try and understand that.

Of course it is-they are mercenaries-just like all professional footballers. They should do their jobs well for the reward they get, and hopefully get enjoyment and fulfillment too, but fanciful notions of 'honour and privilege' in this day and age are just daft IMO.
mortonjag 2008-02-17 12:17:31
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 17 2008, 11:03 AM) [snapback]405167[/snapback]
Is that a 'yes' or a 'no'? You might be joking in your personal profile as well. tongue.gif

It's just that, if you do, then fair play to you for being open about it and joking about it.

But if you don't, then it's a strange thing to pretend.

Most people who mention 'their psychiatrist' have mental health problems-n'est ce pas?
mortonjag 2008-02-17 12:21:30
QUOTE(Deego @ Feb 17 2008, 01:09 AM) [snapback]405065[/snapback]
Well it was Martin Clark's idea to play Weatherson up front, so it would seem strange for him to move him to centre half. Maybe he did pick the team, although I doubt it.

Russell was left to plough a lone furrow while Greacen AND Harding were dropped in favour of one of Mr Rae's all time favourites Davie McGregor. The Chairman was on the pitch before the game started, in deep conversation with the 'backroom boys'.
mortonjag 2008-02-17 12:36:14
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 17 2008, 12:25 PM) [snapback]405262[/snapback]
Yeah, but my question was do you really have one or are you joking.

If you do have one and really have mental health problems then, as I said, I respect your openness about it. It's usually an illness than men in particular would be ashamed to admit even to themselves, never mind to complete strangers.

I wish you all the best.

Indeed CHC-mental illness has always been put on a different level from 'normal' illness, but let's face it, illness is illness.

One of my best friends is a lovely young woman who suffers from bi-polar depression-she is, if you like, a 'Manic Depressive'. She is highly intelligent, and an extremely talented musician. Both of her parents were anaesthetists, and she was accepted for entry to medical school just as he illness began to demonstrate itself.

Today she can't hold down a job, though she works voluntarily in the Oxfam music store in the West End of Glasgow.

Like myself I guess she's just a 'nutter'.
mortonjag 2008-02-17 12:39:24
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 17 2008, 12:16 PM) [snapback]405247[/snapback]
Sir Alex Ferguson earns several million pounds per year out of managing the largest football club in the UK, Benny Rooney would do well to get the equivalent of a school-teachers wage if he entered back into football management.

Ferguson is a businessman in his own right.

I fail to see your point.

Rooney could undoubtedly help us in some capacity. Goodness, he might even do it for nothing!
mortonjag 2008-02-17 12:47:01
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 17 2008, 12:40 PM) [snapback]405273[/snapback]
Same here.

One of the most common mental health problems is depression, a lot of folk suffer from it and dont realise it, and it can affect people from all walks of life regardless of age, sex, background etc. It is a serious illness which can affect other parts of your life, however not everyone is understanding, sympathetic or at least considerate to a mental illness as they would be to a physical impairment for example.

If you are for real, then please accept my profuse apologies for calling you 'A Nutter'.

As i said before, i like you.

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I don't need any apologies. I've often stated myself that I'm a complete 'nutter', but you're right in highlighting the fact that 'mental illness' encompasses a wide spectrum of psychological problems.

In the sense that some degree of depression probably affects forty odd percent of the population, there must be quite a few 'nutters' on the board.

Is addiction to gambling, drugs, or alcohol also a mental illness-I suggest that it is, and that's a fairly common problem too.

Folk with mental illness need understanding-not pity, and most certainly not ridicule.
mortonjag 2008-02-17 12:54:06
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 17 2008, 12:22 PM) [snapback]405257[/snapback]
Theres nothing wrong with being a good journeyman pro who gives 100% wherever he goes or whoever he plays for, guys like Kenny Milne, Neil McFarlane etc. i respect guys like that. However, to suggest that it is okay for a player to give less than 100% because it is only a job for them is infuriating.

Should we just give these guys a wage and tell them not to turn up for the bus on a saturday?

Agreed.
mortonjag 2008-02-17 12:58:29
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 17 2008, 12:20 PM) [snapback]405252[/snapback]
Was the monkey doing Monkey Chants as I doubt he'd be that great at singing along in a choir tongue.gif

The monkey and Fing are a model of decorum at matches Willow. Others could learn a few lessons from those little bundles of fur!
mortonjag 2008-02-17 15:49:34
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 17 2008, 11:21 AM) [snapback]405183[/snapback]
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Anyone out there studying psychiatry? Add this board to your reading list.

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mortonjag 2008-02-17 15:53:37
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 17 2008, 01:20 PM) [snapback]405314[/snapback]
Of course mental health problems are an illness, the brain is just another organ in the body after all, but one which many people still think of as having a bit of a 'taboo' presumably because of the fear of ridicule you mentioned above.

Most people would go to the doctor with physical ailments without a problem but many would feel embarassed or even ashamed to go for mental issues.

Peoples perceptions of mental health will only change through understanding, and that in turn will only be achieved through openness. So for that reason I admire you for speaking about it in 'public'.

TYCHC

My illness is reasonably well under control, and has been for a while. I use the word 'reasonably' as a 'get out'! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-17 15:57:17
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Feb 17 2008, 02:38 PM) [snapback]405354[/snapback]
Fixed it for you MJ

That snort fair Gash-it was happening long before Coke became the popular suicide it now is.
mortonjag 2008-02-17 16:03:42
QUOTE(jag-ton @ Feb 17 2008, 02:50 PM) [snapback]405361[/snapback]
Even the Greenock polis would recognise a Kalashnikov. I reckon they'd be dumbfounded by a taser.

And after my lovely encounter with Jim Mcinally's now redundant heart monitor (see above), I attempted to strike up a relationship with a semi-retired defibrillator (as I heard a rumour Morton needed one and thought I could help out). It wasn't pleasant. In fact, the whole experience has left me rather shocked (this is my first attempt at a "joke" so be kind)

I've got a "hot-date" tonight with Chris Millar's sunbed, so hopefully I should have more destabilising gossip that will bring down the regime soon...

Jag-Ton

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Jaggy bott-get real it was havin' you on. Those contraptions either work or they don't!
mortonjag 2008-02-17 16:08:34
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 17 2008, 01:10 PM) [snapback]405305[/snapback]
Can anyone explain to me what the role of 'Director of Football' actually is?

To score when he shoots.
mortonjag 2008-02-17 16:12:28
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 17 2008, 03:31 PM) [snapback]405404[/snapback]
I doubt it will.

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It's a shame really-it would have been a great opportunity for Mr Rae to get us all united again.
mortonjag 2008-02-17 16:15:06 I couldn't really care provided somebody's signed till the end of the season only, with the option to renew the contract if both parties are satisfied.
mortonjag 2008-02-17 16:17:59
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Feb 17 2008, 02:57 PM) [snapback]405368[/snapback]
I don't want Moore. If he's done well with a tight budget, good for him.
This doesn't mean he should be trusted with the management of a much bigger, full-time club with a much bigger budget than he is used to.

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Seems the TON have a wonderful ability to be as big or as wee as suits folks arguments.

I'd take Moore-but I wouldn't take anybody on a long term contract until it's seen what happens.
mortonjag 2008-02-17 16:34:05
QUOTE(Toby @ Feb 17 2008, 01:28 PM) [snapback]405319[/snapback]
Won't go too much into this, it's ground that has been covered plenty of times in the past and will probably go into in the future the next time we decide to let the team know what we think of them.

However, However, 888's attempt to attack me should have resulted in and assault charge. Had the roles been reversed and I'd went for him, I'd be sitting in a cell in Dundee now awaiting trial, yet it's okay for an older guy to behave like that. He claims he's had worse from his granddaughter, not disputing that, but the reason it didn't go any further is because my mates all rallied on him and he scarpered.

I've known Dennis most of my life and resisted any angry exchanges with him in the past as he's a friend of the family, but he seems to strike me as a guy who likes to air his dirty washing in public. The argument he had over me and Gerry at a game he wasn't even at in December is the perfect example of publicly having his go before his backtracking was done in private. Needless to say I declined his offer of a pint when he came down off his high horse.

Again, he's decided that he'll say his piece on a messageboard for all to see when he feels he's in the right.

TBH I didn't think we were as bad as usual yesterday but this little set too I'd imagine was over the laundry maid, who's Dennis's pal. You can't accept that I don't like one of your pals? I'm pretty sure I pointed out that I wasn't emamoured with your views on Gerry, but I didn't resort to try and fighting over it. Myself and Gerry have always divided the support. Some like us, others can't stand us, and we can live with that, but one guy made himself ook like a proper old fool yesterday, and I don't believe it was me. wink.gif

Toby-you've got me puzzled.

I remember somebody pointed you out to me at Kirkcaldy. That was the day Marvin Andrews first played against us, and two or three eejits were shouting racial abuse. You (unless I'm very much mistaken) were the guy who had a go at them.

Now 888 (I think anyway) is suggesting that you were not terribly inviting to Brian McPhee.

I always admired you for sticking to your guns, but if those details are correct, I'm wondering if it's just that you enjoy being yobbish.
mortonjag 2008-02-17 16:38:51
QUOTE(jag-ton @ Feb 17 2008, 04:20 PM) [snapback]405444[/snapback]
No, you don't understand. This one alleged (note "ALLEGED") that she had to retire due to the emotional distress caused by being repeatedly used by Alex Williams' GP whenever he received his latest bill from the bookies (allegedly)

Jag-Ton

Just goes to show then Jaggy Bott-never trust a man made contraption!
mortonjag 2008-02-17 16:45:01
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 17 2008, 04:32 PM) [snapback]405458[/snapback]
On the same subject, there was no offer like this during an even more turbulent time when we were in administration and Ally Maxwell was given the responsibility of managing the team merely because he was the most senior player.

That was a real time when his experience could have been used to our advantage.

Perhaps Benny was too busy at the time-you come over as though you're calling his offer in question!

Maybe he has more free time now. If you look at really big clubs, they always seem to have quite a few ex players and staff all doing their wee bit to help. It seems that's all Benny has suggested.
mortonjag 2008-02-17 16:49:55
QUOTE(mentalton @ Feb 17 2008, 04:19 PM) [snapback]405441[/snapback]
I can sook ma own boaby.

Wait till you have to son. sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-17 16:51:42 laugh.gif

mortonjag 2008-02-17 17:11:54 Am I mistaken, or are the jobs those Polish people do not available to the community at large.

The reason I ask is that some people have been suggesting they are stealing the jobs of local people.
mortonjag 2008-02-17 17:15:45
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Feb 17 2008, 05:11 PM) [snapback]405490[/snapback]
Me, I have better candidates than Duffy.

Currently out of work manager : Rowan Alexander. Before the he had money argument kicks in the guy only employed winners. He found the likes of the Deuchars and McMenamins of this world and enticed them down to Raydale. Aye so what if he shouts and bawls, he gets the best out of his players. As for winding us up in years gone by, so what, he had a job to do and its win at any cost. We need a winner just now! Give Rowan the money JM has had over the past few seasons im sure he would have enticed more quality to Cappielow. Duffy aint a winner, he's been found wanting at every level. And before the hard luck stories come out about Dundee being skint and Hibs at that time toiling others have been in that position and got the job done, Ian McCall has had more hard luck stories in management thru clubs being in a bad way and look what he's done with them. He's still working and his lot are above us in the league! DUFFY IS NOT THE ANSWER.

Currently in work manager : Gordon Chisholm down at QOS. The guy went in there, shored up a ropey defence and built from the back. The past two months his guys have knuckled down and pulled themselves out of relegation danger. We could nick him. The guy has found his level and its working for him as is Allan Moore at Albion.

Fact or opinion?
mortonjag 2008-02-17 17:17:28
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Feb 17 2008, 05:14 PM) [snapback]405494[/snapback]
Mine

You use a lot of shortcuts!
mortonjag 2008-02-17 17:19:58 I used to like Dickson of Dock Green, Z Cars, 'Cool for Cats', and the Six Five Special.
mortonjag 2008-02-17 17:32:55
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Feb 17 2008, 05:18 PM) [snapback]405498[/snapback]
Both, in my opinion its factual! tongue.gif

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I don't quite get the anti-Duff stuff.

Picking a successful manager is not JUST a matter of previous record surely.

It seems to me that everybody has his favourite but nobody can REALLY guarantee anything.

Bear in mind the 'behind the scenes' interactions at Cappielow. If we're going to have success on the field, AND a happy Chairman, we need a man with the ability to persuade Mr Rae to let the former run the ship.

I believe that for the remainder of the season that's crucial, and I'd suggest a short term contract.

I don't know why Rowan Alexander gets so much support-he may very well be a good motivator/manager, but I don't believe he and the Chairman would last very long together.

For what it's worth, I believe Duffy has enough intelligence and diplomacy to hold things together, and would gain the respect of the players.

Whether or not he's a long term answer I couldn't say.
mortonjag 2008-02-17 17:39:19
QUOTE(Cawston @ Feb 17 2008, 05:30 PM) [snapback]405506[/snapback]
Maybe the time wasn't right for him then, as you suggested in your earlier posts his business interests might have not allowed him the time to get involved.

It's more likely that any offer of help would be along the lines of giving some much needed guidance to the search for the new manager.

Would be exciting to see Benny involved but realistically he's been out the game for some time.

Great to know that we're still in his thoughts.

Will you still need me -when I'm sixty four? Benny could also bridge the generation gap at Cappielow! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-17 17:43:27
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 17 2008, 05:38 PM) [snapback]405514[/snapback]
Thats not what the thread is asking, I would take Alexander, Irons and Alan Moore all before I took Duffy. I have said that many times before I didn't think I needed to repeat it in this thread as well.

Jim-you're at this like a dog with two bones-would it be legitimate to ask if Duffy shagged your missus?

Well that's what they keep asking me about Mr Rae! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-17 17:45:30
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 17 2008, 05:41 PM) [snapback]405518[/snapback]
wow! where is that mate?

Is it not a spent match sideways?
mortonjag 2008-02-17 17:52:34
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 17 2008, 05:50 PM) [snapback]405535[/snapback]
I will answer that honestly as I can.

Not that I know of wink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-02-17 18:03:36
QUOTE(Jackie @ Feb 17 2008, 06:00 PM) [snapback]405558[/snapback]
Why not? Sure the results will dampen a players spirit but abuse which is directed at them for every little thing they do will grind them down alot quicker than actual results will.

This isn't linked to yesterdays farce either tbh, I wasn't there so I am not able to comment. This is a general statement for what has been happening for months now.

Rest assured Jackie-yesterday was no farce-the crowd were united behind the lads and they took that on board. I didn't even hear what was being apparently shouted, though I did notice the stewards/police going up towards the back of the stand at one point.
mortonjag 2008-02-17 18:10:38
QUOTE(Deego @ Feb 17 2008, 05:56 PM) [snapback]405550[/snapback]
He didn't, but I did.

Karamba-it was YOU-that was some transmogrification young Deegan-I did wonder at the youthful energy mind you, but I could swear that the bit when she took out your wallies was REAL.
mortonjag 2008-02-17 18:21:54
QUOTE(foobs the elder @ Feb 17 2008, 06:15 PM) [snapback]405576[/snapback]
Stop winging and bleating about who you want or don't want.

You're not getting to choose !!!!!

The man who pays the piper calls the tune.

Douglas Rae will pick whoever.

All we can do is turn up and give our support to whoever,

or will the usual suspects start trying to get rid of whoever it is before he gets his foot in the door.
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If your assertion about the selection process is correct Foobs, your previous terms are a tad unfair.

Do you think Crawford Rae and Alistair Donald will have absolutely no input?
mortonjag 2008-02-17 18:24:40
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 17 2008, 06:21 PM) [snapback]405580[/snapback]
oh crap, now he's got us feeling sorry for him....he has us exactly where he wants us!

next stop, WORLD DOMINATION!!! tongue.gif

The monkey is my master! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-17 18:27:34
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 17 2008, 06:10 PM) [snapback]405570[/snapback]
vid won't play for me. help?

Free download apple quicktime.
mortonjag 2008-02-17 18:29:29
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 17 2008, 06:26 PM) [snapback]405587[/snapback]
you must be the only person i know who's monkey spanks them and not the other way around.

Which takes us full circle-I'm not entirely sane at all times!
mortonjag 2008-02-18 06:36:12
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Feb 17 2008, 11:21 PM) [snapback]405814[/snapback]
If you butter both sides, and THEN drop it, does it cause a rip in the space-time contiuum?

Surely must depend on the type of bread-Scottish Plain outsider-mibbes aye!
mortonjag 2008-02-18 06:39:18
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 18 2008, 12:10 AM) [snapback]405846[/snapback]
If you told them to stick their useless, intelligence-insulting tests up their arses, would they reckon you had leadership potential?

No they'd just look puzzled and e-mail the line manager for help.
mortonjag 2008-02-18 06:51:48
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 18 2008, 01:08 AM) [snapback]405860[/snapback]
Calling The Jag, can you help out the poetic Sir David unsure.gif

DE's in deep remorse man
For days his heid's been swimmin'
In stupor and the Norseman
He shagged two mingin' wimmin
'Apocalyptic horseman'
He pled,'I've been a dim 'un'
The rider roared 'Of course man,
And soon you'll meet that grim 'un'. sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-18 07:08:53
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 17 2008, 08:06 PM) [snapback]405665[/snapback]
Does that mean you're going to stop with the 'narcissist' patter?

You'll need to explain that good Sir. I have never consciously ridiculed anyone who has a clinically proven severe personality disorder.

I seem to recall, moreover, that my allusion was to to Narcissus, and NOT to 'a Narcissist'.

If my intuitive perception of a certain poster produced an accurate diagnosis, I proffer my profuse apologies. Indeed I will gladly recommend a superb Clinical Psychologist with a special interest in that condition. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-18 07:16:54
QUOTE(Bryan @ Feb 17 2008, 08:12 PM) [snapback]405672[/snapback]
i thought that too.

The commentator stated that Mr Rae had 'informed him' that three candidates were Duffy, Alexander, and Irons. Absolutely sure, as my brother immediately said, 'I hope Gretna know he's applied, or Dougie's made another gaffe'.
mortonjag 2008-02-18 07:22:31
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Feb 17 2008, 07:05 PM) [snapback]405618[/snapback]
Well the 50 who have voted so far have no problem with the question. Structure, structure, structure. In some capacity means within some sort of new structure as people have been debating.

But then again you are piehutt after all. mellow.gif

...and even pie huts have to have a structure-of sorts!
mortonjag 2008-02-18 07:28:14
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 17 2008, 11:25 PM) [snapback]405817[/snapback]
MJ disagrees with my use of the term 'shambles' yet concedes that there was 'a total lack of shape and a game plan'.
In my understanding, 'lack of shape and a game plan' in a football team equals a 'shambles.' No doubt the Doctor will argue otherwise. biggrin.gif

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I've seen many a victory from teams with no shape or game plan Mr Edwards. I thought your term was just a tad emotive!
mortonjag 2008-02-18 07:31:41
QUOTE(.:BrIDo:. @ Feb 18 2008, 12:00 AM) [snapback]405832[/snapback]
2nd in particular.

The last Ton player I saw chip a goalie so coolly was............



Alex Williams, to complete a hat trick on a muddy day at Scapa if I recall.
mortonjag 2008-02-18 07:35:36
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 17 2008, 10:29 PM) [snapback]405795[/snapback]
I agree with the part highlighted but I don't know enough about behind the scenes to say why that is.

Personally, I'd like to think that Stevenson would be professional enough to play wide on the right to the best of his ability if that's where his manager wants to play him but I don't think he has. I'd prefer to see him in the centre but he is paid to play football where his manager sees fit (plus I don't think playing wide right instead of centre mid is that much of an ordeal) so I don't really have much sympathy for him.
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Would you believe I disagree
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Jimbo's really going to have to learn to 'screw the nut' with his final shots, mind you. He goes on those mazy runs, gets himself into great position, and then hits the ball like a rookie golfer half the time.
mortonjag 2008-02-18 07:42:04
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 17 2008, 10:12 PM) [snapback]405783[/snapback]
Until it's mentioned in the match programme I refuse to accept that it's an issue ph34r.gif tongue.gif

Agreed, and by Arthur Montford.
mortonjag 2008-02-18 07:44:34
QUOTE(Toby @ Feb 18 2008, 02:03 AM) [snapback]405876[/snapback]
Mortonjag, 888 has made no reference to me having any racist views or tendancies on here. I have my political beliefs but they're kept between myself and those I'm comfortable sharing them with. He suggested my mate wasn't terribly inviting to Brian McPhee. My mate knows my views on that and it is kept "in-house".
I don't think it does get to the players, but that's an argument we could debate til doomsday. The main reson was drink and resentment as I said. That doesn't excuse it, but it does go a long way to explaining it.

I could go on and make apologies or just stick to my guns in the cold light of day, but I don't like the majority of the Morton squad. I feel they are work shy and seriously short changing the guys that pay good money to watch them.

I also feel that there are too many happy clappers amongst the support that think that regardless of how badly we're doing these guys can do no wrong.

What I will accept is wrong is the language infront of children and families and for those whose kids heard that, I am genuinely sorry.

However, Jim leaving was never going to make everything in the garden rosy. He was the tip of the iceberg, now we're looking at who else is at fault for the mess of a season we're having.

Fair enough-I thought he had been lumping you together in 'bad mouthing' McPhee.
mortonjag 2008-02-18 08:37:52 I'm very good at killing wasps. I hate those beasties, and have since I was stung as a youngster.

I relentlessly hunt them down-often to the amusement of others.
mortonjag 2008-02-18 08:40:45
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 18 2008, 08:37 AM) [snapback]405904[/snapback]
Did Friar Tuck run like f*** to fetch the merry men? laugh.gif

More like Friar Tuck waddled up to f*ck the Merry Men.
mortonjag 2008-02-18 08:43:05
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 17 2008, 11:59 PM) [snapback]405831[/snapback]
Going by what I've seen so far I'd rather have Templeman than Wake as well.

Sanny was used as a lone target man for ages-then when we got a striker who could have fed off him, they were not paired-bizarre!
mortonjag 2008-02-18 08:45:59
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 18 2008, 08:33 AM) [snapback]405902[/snapback]
There are one or two people I've had 'disagreements' with in the past. I would like to send them a 'wee message' just to leave them in no doubt about my feelings towards them. I've heard that you guys have a sale on and was wondering if you could fix me up with a box of grenades. If you're sold out of those, a tommy gun would do nicely.
I look forward to hearing from you. laugh.gif

Showing your age!
mortonjag 2008-02-18 08:47:09
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 18 2008, 08:42 AM) [snapback]405911[/snapback]
You mean the merry men were gay? I'm shocked.

Not necessarily-they may have been enchained, and ex-'Merry'!
mortonjag 2008-02-18 08:49:23
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 18 2008, 08:47 AM) [snapback]405916[/snapback]
Enough of your cheek or I'll add you to my 'wee message' list. tongue.gif

I have a sten gun in superb condition!

PS wait for the children rushing to correct my 'typo'!!! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-18 08:54:21
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 18 2008, 08:52 AM) [snapback]405919[/snapback]
Not if it landed on its edge....

Which edge?
mortonjag 2008-02-18 08:55:10
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 18 2008, 08:51 AM) [snapback]405918[/snapback]
i think you mean typpo rolleyes.gif

You are not a child!
mortonjag 2008-02-18 08:59:39
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Feb 18 2008, 08:42 AM) [snapback]405910[/snapback]
What I call a f***ing joke are those that think they are bigger fans than others because they go to every game. There may be perfectly good reasons as to why travelling numbers are dwindling, not least because it costs the best part of £40 to go and watch the rubbish that is being served up. Some would say those that go are dedicated, others would say they're mugs, I say it's their choice but it doesn't make them any better or wors a fan than those that decided or had no choice but to stay at home.

That surely depends on somebody producing a universally acceptable definition of 'The football fan'.

Taking your argument to a conclusion, you could say that the 'armchair Morton fan' who hasn't actually watched the team in years, is just as big a fan as those who travel faithfully-week in, week out.
mortonjag 2008-02-18 09:01:52
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Feb 18 2008, 08:58 AM) [snapback]405922[/snapback]
I dont have clue what the score is tbh.
However
I do have 2 tickets left for the Comedy night on the 1st march if anyone is interested.
Jim, Jester took 2 and paddy took 2. Told him ref the deposit for Holland also, i managed to get Andy as well although he lost his fone on the way back from Dundee.
Anyone want to buy a Battleship wink.gif

How many owners-has it been regularly serviced-any rust to look out for.

Oh and can it negotiate up the Cart?
mortonjag 2008-02-18 09:07:05
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 18 2008, 09:02 AM) [snapback]405926[/snapback]
Clearly some of these questions, apart from being utterly irrelevant, have been poorly worded. For example, how many people in the UK own their own house? Are you supposed to give a number? A percentage? What happens if someone buys a house and thus the number changes? How many people could answer the equivalnt questions about their own country of birth?

Clearly WDE intends to support his fiancee and there is no valid reason why he should not be allowed to bring her into the country. The test for entry should be "is this person going to make a positive contribution to society and support themselves, or be supported by someone already resident here?" and if that can be answered "yes" then entry should be allowed. It seems crazy to allow spongers from some parts of the EU whose only reason for being here is to get benefits not available in their home countries. As for the Poles, I haven't met a single one who wan't extremely pleasant and very very hard working - to say they shouldn't be here is just xenophobia pure and simple.

The Poles are operating in a free labour market-like it or not.

I entirely agree with the rest of that comment. I previously tried to highlight that problem and was immediately accused of racism. Our current immigration rules are wishy washy and frequently disadvantage British people of ALL ethnicities.
mortonjag 2008-02-18 09:10:00
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 18 2008, 09:08 AM) [snapback]405928[/snapback]
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age is just a number wheras immaturity is a way of life!

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mortonjag 2008-02-18 09:12:02
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 18 2008, 09:09 AM) [snapback]405929[/snapback]
I honestly couldn't care less how he played for Alloa. I'm only interested in how he plays for us, and so far, the majority of the time he has looked disinterested and below par.
I also don't care what position he is playing in, he should be giving his "all" for Morton. No excuses !

No excuses-agreed-but maybe there are REASONS.
mortonjag 2008-02-18 09:14:22
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 17 2008, 06:10 PM) [snapback]405571[/snapback]
All that proves is that there's at least 231,000 gullible people in the world with a computer.

There must be a HELLUVA queue for that keyboard.
mortonjag 2008-02-18 09:15:39
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 17 2008, 06:17 PM) [snapback]405577[/snapback]
The 'Nicholas Parson's dad delivered Margaret Thatcher' urban myth might be true as his dad was indeed a GP in Grantham when she was born.

I'm still skeptical though, I mean, you would have thought he would have remembered the night he delivered a horned, cloven hoofed child from red man holding a fork, wouldn't you?

It's an urban myth. Thatcher was delivered by the vet.
mortonjag 2008-02-18 09:21:56
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 18 2008, 09:17 AM) [snapback]405937[/snapback]
What like spitting the dummy out because he can't play where he wants ? Or being asked to track back and help the defence out ? Or not putting enough effort in at trainng ? Or under-minding the management because he doesn't get his own way ?

Do you know him personally?

What's been clear is that his confidence has been at an all time low. I believe there have been legitimate reasons for that. I also believe he now has an opportunity to prove he's the best footballer in the squad.
mortonjag 2008-02-18 09:34:48
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 18 2008, 09:20 AM) [snapback]405938[/snapback]


You trawled all the way back to this I imagine---
Voyeur and narcissist, or just the full fish supper on your shoulders son?

Time to grow up.

Should that have been


?


As I already stated, I have never consciously ridiculed anyone with a proven diagnosis of a severe personality disorder.

If you continue to 'flog a dead horse' on this Nacho, I might say something like....Afflicted by OCD, or just an argumentative wee boy?

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mortonjag 2008-02-18 09:49:24
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 18 2008, 09:37 AM) [snapback]405950[/snapback]
I typed "narcissist" into the search box and it was the second result... it didn't really take much trawling.

You can weasel around all you want, but the fact is you've been making light of mental health issues for months now. I don't really have a problem with it, but te fact that you're now coming across all high and mighty on this thread goes against the grain.

"I have never consciously ridiculed anyone with a proven diagnosis of a severe personality disorder." aye, well done, that's quite an achievement.

But I imagine anyone with a narcissistic disorder - any takers? - feels fantastic when they read your slagging it off rolleyes.gif

May I suggest then, that you type 'mental health issues' into your wee search box, and produce evidence to prove that assertion.

I find it slightly incongruous that I would 'make light' of something so close to my heart, and an area in which I still give assistance on a voluntary basis.

GENERAL NONSENSE Nacho-an 'anything goes' forum where fun may be poked at almost anything or anybody within the limits of common decency.

...and NO, I was not acting 'high and mighty'. I believe this thread developed an interesting twist, and we had some serious input on Mental Health Issues.

Finally to suggest I was 'slagging off' Narcissism' is a pathetic sleight.

If you think I'm just at the 'wind up' on those matters, by all means p.m. me, and I'll put you straight.
mortonjag 2008-02-18 10:50:43
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 18 2008, 09:59 AM) [snapback]405957[/snapback]
So... by bringing up narcissism to use to slag off someone who doesn't have it (given that you've apparently not ridiculed anyone with a personality disorder) you're not in any way disparaging narcissism?

Aye, whatever rolleyes.gif

And you can forget about the PM as well, I've said my piece.





Thank you for conceding so graciously! Your Procrustean interpretation of what I DID say is puzzling, given that you are clearly an intelligent guy.


I may have many faults, but I am NOT a liar, and I frankly resent your inaccurate assertion

You got it WRONG-I'm not expecting an apology Nacho, but the offer to respond to a p.m. is still open. I have passionate views about Mental Illness and Mental Health Issues, as anybody who knows the real Mortonjag will readily affirm.

In those forums I've also steadfastly promoted the concept of addiction as an illness, and have been supportive of disability in general, citing the fact that my ex-wife suffered for many many years from Multiple Sclerosis.

.
mortonjag 2008-02-18 10:59:26
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 18 2008, 09:56 AM) [snapback]405955[/snapback]
I would think there will be an interim appointment early this week which will be to the end of the season, I would think depending on what happens between now and then whether or not another contract is offered or we search out another manager.

I think that would be the sensible thing to do.

That's my hope too.
mortonjag 2008-02-18 11:01:43
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 18 2008, 10:37 AM) [snapback]405966[/snapback]
Feck me!! I got a half pizza supper out of the Orangefield Chippy for the same price last week.

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Do you have a tummy?
mortonjag 2008-02-18 11:03:30
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Feb 18 2008, 09:46 AM) [snapback]405951[/snapback]
The outside wan.

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'ootside'?
mortonjag 2008-02-18 11:04:56
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 18 2008, 10:23 AM) [snapback]405962[/snapback]
laugh.gif Love those. Cinamon balls are good to.

You MUST have a tummy.
mortonjag 2008-02-18 11:24:50
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 18 2008, 11:16 AM) [snapback]405975[/snapback]
Which way up does a buttered roll fall? And does it make a difference if you butter the top part or the bottom part before you close it up?

Hmm-so many variables there-frankly I'd just pick it up and eat it-the floor's usually quite clean.
mortonjag 2008-02-18 12:06:48
QUOTE(ton1 @ Feb 18 2008, 12:01 PM) [snapback]405992[/snapback]
That is fair points you make re mortgage etc but as I recall he wasnt really upfront with the club and moved at last minute not giving the ton chance to keep him,thoughwe probably couldnt match his pay.Even on the experience side of things I dont think he is what we need at this time.

It was pretty obvious Collins was well past his best when he left-and Gretna made no secret of him going in a coaching capacity. I don't believe he 'left the club in the lurch' any more than I believe he wouldn't give 100% if he returned.

Anyhow I'd rather have somebody who's cutting the mustard right now-Moore is only one example.

I'd also be happy to settle for Duffy till May, and see how it goes.
mortonjag 2008-02-18 12:41:11
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 18 2008, 12:37 PM) [snapback]406017[/snapback]
On that list of names (dated Feb 15) is Ryan McGuffie.

Whether or not it's to do with drunk driving - and whether or not he's guilty of whatever it is he's up for - is another matter entirely, so I don't think it's right to hang the guy just yet.

So when should we hang him?

You're spot on-innocent until proven guilty.

Only after the court case-if indeed one of our players is facing any charge-will full details be available.

Then the hawks and doves can do their separate business.
mortonjag 2008-02-18 12:43:44
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Feb 18 2008, 12:31 PM) [snapback]406010[/snapback]
Weatherson at East End Park?

Similar -both had vision, but if you recall, Williams played almost a sand wedge chip from just outside the box, on a wet and slippy pitch, leaving the goalie stranded..
mortonjag 2008-02-18 12:48:32
QUOTE(cmdc @ Feb 18 2008, 12:28 PM) [snapback]406007[/snapback]
Wouldn't there be a case though for saying, if we are to appoint the strong and experienced manager that people seem pretty united in believing we need, then giving him until the end of the season would send out the wrong message, maybe undermine his authority a little? I'd much rather we appoint a strong manager, with a track record, and give him the full confidence of say a 2/3 year deal to do his thing. I understand there's an obvious gamble involved, but I think the top managers seem to operate at their best when they have complete authority.

For example, take the difference in Man Utd a few years back when Ferguson announced he was leaving at the end of the season...

Yes- but after the probationary period. I can't see the problem-it cuts both ways-if he feels comfortable, he'll work his balls off for a longer contract-if not he can leave at the end of the season. Similarly it's in the interests of the Board to get the best out of him-if they can't they can ditch him.
mortonjag 2008-02-18 12:49:50 tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-18 12:54:24
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 18 2008, 12:33 PM) [snapback]406014[/snapback]
Haven't we all??

Nope weegie-we all-well all except those who have had a gastrectomy, have a 'stomach'. A tummy is something different in my book. People who enjoy deep fried pizza, chips, and sweeties frequently, but not always. have a 'tummy'

I do hope I have not caused offence to anyone with anorexia/bulimia BTW! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-18 12:56:38
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Feb 18 2008, 12:42 PM) [snapback]406021[/snapback]
You might be right I cant remember

I think its the employers who are bringing in cheap labour thats the problem not the polish , At the end of the day they are just earning a living . I pay my polish staff the same as everyone else (I would actually pay them more as they are that good) Hope they dont read this lol

There are too many dodgy companies paying them cash in hand and below the minimum wage or charging them a fortune for Room and board and taking it from there wages .

I think the real problem is Romanians as they are flocking to this country just now - All you see up here selling Big Issue Roses and glow sticks etc on the street begging etc . Immigration should be limited to people who offer a skill or trade and will add to the country not just rip the piss out of benifits

I agree with that in general.
mortonjag 2008-02-18 12:57:39
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 18 2008, 12:46 PM) [snapback]406025[/snapback]
Morton should sign a polish player to bring some of these new Greenockians to the club. Capitalise on the situation smile.gif

I'd be quite happy with a couple of polished players.
mortonjag 2008-02-18 13:37:26
QUOTE(cmdc @ Feb 18 2008, 12:58 PM) [snapback]406031[/snapback]
There was an interview a while back with Paul Jewell, who had a tough time laying down the law in his early days at Wigan, and when his patience was near an end, and he became more strict, Derek Stillie (ex-Dundee Utd) told him that he can do what he likes, but that they (the players) would outlive Jewell's tenure anyway. I think a problem like that perhaps emerged at the tail end of McCormack's reign. Now, it is probably the case that the squad at present are much more professional than that, but I think it's an example that without complete authority, the manager might work his balls off but be undermined elsewhere.

It's a gamble whatever way really. I'm hoping that most of the current squad see themselves as first division players with Morton next season.
mortonjag 2008-02-18 14:12:52
QUOTE(RankinBorn75 @ Feb 18 2008, 02:06 PM) [snapback]406054[/snapback]
I wonder if the Gretna fan was so keen to see our Club in Crisis ?

Doubt it-they have nothing to begrudge.
mortonjag 2008-02-18 14:14:50
QUOTE(HamCam @ Feb 18 2008, 02:02 PM) [snapback]406053[/snapback]
Agree with you on the much quoted top 3 but have reservations over JR. Met him on a number of occasions and a very nice man he is but has some well publised personal issues that have previously impacted on his ability to focus on the job in hand.
Please not Moore how can you have faith in a guy who looks like Gollum and believes the height of fashion is tucking your jumper inside your trousers.

As for who it should be I do not have a scooby but have absolute faith that DDFR will pull a rabbit from the hat and we will all be singing his praises come Saturday.

Again?
mortonjag 2008-02-18 14:53:19
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 18 2008, 02:41 PM) [snapback]406076[/snapback]
Good point MJ. I bow to your superior knowledge yet again. Anyway to answer your earlier question, yes i do have a bit of a tummy, but i am eating more sensibly again and trying to start a fitness regime after a few lax years.

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The old battle of the bulge eh!
mortonjag 2008-02-18 15:59:48
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 18 2008, 02:57 PM) [snapback]406081[/snapback]
a doctor who can't spell Bulimia? ohmy.gif

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HIIIIII EVERYBODY!

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It wasn't a deliberate mistake anyway!

...and I've edited to save further embarrassment. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-18 16:10:14
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Feb 18 2008, 02:59 PM) [snapback]406084[/snapback]
that is in fact a rather poor example MJ. The difference being that many musicians, or "pop stars" as you call them, come out with some of their finest work while harbouring drink and drug problems. I am not saying that its the drugs that make them good, more just that their choices of recreational substances do not have as adverse an effect on their work as they would in say, a professional athlete.

Puggs was talking about people throwing away talent. I cited the example of POP STARS. Nowhere did I comment on the heightening or dampening of artistic ability by recreational drugs.

I was merely indicating that historically numerous pop stars have either died prematurely, committed suicide, or ruined promising careers, and I was talking in the context in which Puggs introduced the subject.
mortonjag 2008-02-18 16:16:36
QUOTE(aimlesswanderer @ Feb 18 2008, 04:01 PM) [snapback]406124[/snapback]
I think it was just to prove it could be done - it was always about the journey to the SPL, as once they got there Mileson's money alone was not going to be enough to make an impression and the lack of stadium and fans was going to be a problem. I think most people thought it was always likely to end in tears.

Most people eventually came to that realisation at different stages. Initially, on this forum at least, those who pointed out the stupidity of Mileson's ploy were ridiculed.
mortonjag 2008-02-19 06:00:12
QUOTE(C B @ Feb 18 2008, 06:01 PM) [snapback]406226[/snapback]
I dunno, at least a half eaten frog is bigger than Robinson and has more presence between the sticks !?

I think the important use of the word "uself" is the ELF, clearly a reference to Robinsons vertically challenged condition! biggrin.gif

Yo negativity boys are never happy!

Why don't you talk about a half uneaten frog? sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-19 06:06:01
QUOTE(C B @ Feb 18 2008, 05:52 PM) [snapback]406215[/snapback]
I was talking to a guy who works for me today, he doesnt really know anything about Morton, cept that I support them, he asked me who the guy with Senile Dementia was representing us on the radio on Saturday ???? blink.gif

Are you being serious CB?
mortonjag 2008-02-19 06:21:48
QUOTE(18-deano-ehm-74 @ Feb 18 2008, 10:14 PM) [snapback]406418[/snapback]
I thought so too but didn't a few 'in the know' (using that very openly) people say that this one was legally binding?

As far as I understand, all contracts or agreements-even made verbally, are legally binding under Scottish law.

In other words, there is no way we can keep Midge unless St. Johnstone agree.
The main difference from a full contract is that there is much more scope for further negotiation IF both parties agree.

If Midge had actually signed , say, a two year contract, and was scoring goals etc., etc., St Johnstone would want compensation built on losing two years of his services and so on.

At the moment They might agree to release him from his obligation for a relatively small consideration.
mortonjag 2008-02-19 06:29:13
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Feb 18 2008, 10:54 PM) [snapback]406451[/snapback]
Craig Brown was aparently down at the Golden casket this evening

Craig's always had a reputation for picking up wee sweeties.
mortonjag 2008-02-19 06:34:25
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Feb 18 2008, 08:52 PM) [snapback]406348[/snapback]
McGuffie is innocent until proven guilty whereas Jay Shields was sacked with the backing of most on here for being charged for arguably a lesser offence.

Indeed, and both are presumed innocent until proven guilty.

Dual morality is not, of course, a stranger to the inner sanctum at Cappielow.

IMHO Shields' departure coincided very conveniently with the 'casting off' process.
mortonjag 2008-02-19 06:47:12
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Feb 18 2008, 10:55 PM) [snapback]406452[/snapback]
Tonight i spoke to Dougie at the airport.He was on the Exeter flight tonight with his wife and i asked him straight out if we had a manager in place yet.

His answer was (and i quote)

"The new manager has been appointed but will not be announced till Wednesday as he has some personal matters to attend"

On being asked if it was david irons or jim Duffy his reply was...

"if thats what you think then fine but you will be pleasantly surprised on the choice.He has good expeirence and will be an asset for years to come to Morton"

Didnt want to push it any further but even Andy Bryan doesnt know as he asked Dougie on the phone while we were chatting and dougie said he will be told on Wednesday not before.

This is just to hush hush for a Duffy or Irons. Something tells me it could be Lubo Moravcik!



Full credit to Mr Rae for consistency. He's already decided we have to be pleasantly surprised, and after JM whom, you recall, he heralded with trumpets blaring, it's reassuring to know that we will now have an asset for years to come-nay, an experienced asset.

Ha ha-it's rumour time-he's signed Allan Moore!
mortonjag 2008-02-19 06:49:38
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Feb 18 2008, 04:39 PM) [snapback]406151[/snapback]
What is a contiuum? A yummy p***y? blink.gif

I like your flower.
mortonjag 2008-02-19 06:54:02
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Feb 18 2008, 10:38 PM) [snapback]406440[/snapback]
Why is orange Jam called Marmalade?

According to the Oxford English Dictionary, "marmalade" appeared in English in 1480, borrowed from French marmelade which, in turn, came from the Portuguese marmelada. Originally, according to the root of the word, which is marmelo or quince, a preserve made from quinces was intended. Marmelada is a compound of the word marmelo (quince), that derives from Latin melimelum, “honey apple” (Klein’s Comprehensive Etymological Dictionary of the English Language).[1] According to José Pedro Machado’s “Dicionário Etimológico da Língua Portuguesa” (Etymological Dictionary of the Portuguese Language), the oldest known document where this word is to be found is Gil Vicente’s play Comédia de Rubena, written in 1521
mortonjag 2008-02-19 07:09:37
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Feb 18 2008, 05:26 PM) [snapback]406192[/snapback]
Whats so s**t about it?

That I object to the amount of asylum seekers and false claimants that have got a grip on our economy? Its got so bad the government finally capped Romania and Bulgarians comming in after the influx of other Eastern Europeans.

Asylum seekers are queuing up in France to come in here due to our lax policies and get your money easy regieme. I do not object to the people or their race, i'll live and drink with any creed or race if they are here legit, but yes, i do object to the abuse of our economy.

Do you not object to the amount of money thats being claimed for family allowance thats being sent to other countries when the kids dont live here? Over £5m last year alone.

Do you not object that our health service is being used by others when it suits them then they head back across the channel. Figures released for mothers from other shores have drained our NHS by a further £7m.
There are plenty of other examples of this abuse.

Yet our local authorities get capped on spending and our council taxes rise year on year. Try and get the local lampost fixed when the bulb blows, try and get your street fixed when its covered in pot holes. Our schools being merged because councils can no longer afford to keep them open and they have to go cap in hand via the PPP route.

If im classed a racist by saying yes I object to the system, then yes, i must be. Maybe im just a realist who's fed up with PC and paying the higher rate of PAYE to supplement bums!

It's not new either, and let me say firstly that you can't blame those folk for coming here. Hopefully that will prevent me from being called a racist again.

It has now reached epidemic proportions Scotsguy, and nobody is to blame but the pond life which runs our country on the back of a spineless PC indoctrinated public.

It's only when it really hits you that you fully realise the magnitude of what's happening. I sometimes wonder if the only element of our economy which has benefited deals in prams and baby foods.

The Poles-entirely different in my experience-good work ethic-something we used to be proud of in this country.
mortonjag 2008-02-19 07:11:36
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Feb 18 2008, 06:05 PM) [snapback]406229[/snapback]
Give us a genuine source to back this s***e up. And not rumours from the daily mail.

The NHS has suffered a HUGE extra burden on account of recent immigration policy-FACT.
mortonjag 2008-02-19 07:19:55
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 18 2008, 11:41 PM) [snapback]406498[/snapback]
I see far more Scottish beggars than foreign beggars.

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Try walking for a mile down Kilmarnock road from Shawlands Cross then!

Even the original big issue sellers have been ousted by families of Romanians who take turns at the same pitch.

Meanwhile, half a mile away in Lidl's there are four Poles, working their baws off and possibly not taking home any more.
mortonjag 2008-02-19 07:24:31
QUOTE(The Shuffler @ Feb 19 2008, 07:19 AM) [snapback]406563[/snapback]
Smarta**e tongue.gif

Not really-I just wish others would do the work, but I've always had a thirst for knowledge, and a willingness to educate those who are wise enough to listen! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-19 07:26:29
QUOTE(mentalton @ Feb 18 2008, 09:49 PM) [snapback]406389[/snapback]
How do you get Dougie Rae out of a dressing room on a Saturday afternoon.

Tell him the May Hughes girls are dancing to 'Life is life'.
mortonjag 2008-02-19 08:01:14
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 19 2008, 07:45 AM) [snapback]406568[/snapback]
Ha ha-it's rumour time-he's signed Allan Moore!
Would you believe Roger Moore ??

VERY experienced

He and DDFR may be the same vintage.

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We would NEVER sign a saint!
mortonjag 2008-02-19 08:13:15 "if thats what you think then fine but you will be pleasantly surprised on the choice. He has good expeirence and will be an asset for years to come to Morton"

As stated to Flight Ton by Mr Rae.

Oh well, it looks like we're going to have to wait for another 24 hours at least before the unveiling of our new manager. Firstly, it looks like he's given somebody a long term contract. The Board must be heavily impressed by their catch.

He has good experience-well that could mean anything, but SHOULD mean he's been in the managerial business for a fair few years.

He WILL be an asset for years to come. Fantastic-SPL here we come!

Most of all, WE will be pleasantly surprised-that would suggest it's not one of the rumoured candidates!

Ladies and gentlemen-I give you






































Sir Alf Ramsey--wait-is he no deid?



mortonjag 2008-02-19 08:37:39
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 18 2008, 01:00 PM) [snapback]406034[/snapback]
They should turn it into a gentleman's club. Not the sort that has floozies stripping off in a vulgar fashion but one where a gentleman can go and relax with a G&T whilst reading the quality press.
A strict dress code would apply obviously and anyone wearing gym kit would be banned. Women would also be welcomed however a strict 'no trouser' policy would apply.
In reality they'll build identikit flats that will attract tossers who earn too much.

Alternatively Mr McArthur, they could just fill the space with big cardboard boxes instead, and the DSS would happily fill them with dossers who earn f*ck all.
mortonjag 2008-02-19 08:41:05
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 19 2008, 08:25 AM) [snapback]406575[/snapback]
Who ever was in charge of Gretna this season was on to a hiding to nothing, Alex Ferguson wouldn't have kept them in the SPL.
I'm more than happy with Davie Irons, I just hope the rest of the fans can back him and Collins (if they are indeed appointed) give them time and most of all start getting right behind the team.

So you reckon the 'pleasantly surprised' bit refers to Collins coming back home?
mortonjag 2008-02-19 08:46:00
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 19 2008, 08:43 AM) [snapback]406583[/snapback]
Looks as though we're picking at the bones of the nearly departed Gretna.

If so it's a welcome pay back time DE, though I'd be cautious about any Sun exclusive, and Rae did talk about the new Manager-singular.
mortonjag 2008-02-19 08:59:03
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 19 2008, 08:45 AM) [snapback]406585[/snapback]
if people started an all straight team that gays werent allowed in then there would be outrage! i want equal rights as the gays!!!! mad.gif

I don't think they couldn't stop a straight player from asking for a trial, but he might find it difficult to fit in.
mortonjag 2008-02-19 09:00:40
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 19 2008, 08:54 AM) [snapback]406591[/snapback]
I don't have a clue how DDF perceives things but I'm not unhappy at Collins coming back, in fact I would take Frank McGarvie & Jim Dick if I thought they would do a job for us.

I'd take Dick Campbell if I KNEW he would do a good job for us! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-19 09:01:51
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Feb 19 2008, 08:59 AM) [snapback]406595[/snapback]
I could not care less who comes in right now provided it is someone who has the will and ability to take us forward. There is one thing for sure irons is a passionate guy who wants to win, he is animated and has tried his hardest to save gretna but quite clearly is not happy with the current situation and is prepared to take on a more realistic challenge rather than a manufactured x factor winner of a play toy, i think he can do well and i for 1 would be happy with irons and collins as they are young and are wanting success i just hope we can provide that so at the end of the day i will be fully behind who ever comes in

The new age Rooney and Jackson!
mortonjag 2008-02-19 09:03:57
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Feb 19 2008, 08:59 AM) [snapback]406596[/snapback]
i bet its crawford rae lol

I don't think so, but what does worry me is all the speculation about Irons and Collins.

The actual wording of Dougie's comment still makes me wonder if he's about to produce a wild card.
mortonjag 2008-02-19 09:15:56
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Feb 19 2008, 09:08 AM) [snapback]406603[/snapback]
It is definately Davie Irons!

Just heard this morning.

And no, I won't name my source!

Alas poor Gretna! GIRUM

Well that's it settled then.

Bring on St Johnstone-boo boys GTF.


WE HAVE LIFT OFF! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-19 09:17:35
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 19 2008, 09:07 AM) [snapback]406602[/snapback]
mortonjag dissnae luv me any more.

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He thinks I made this up.

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GRETNA have confirmed they have been unable to pay players and staff due to club owner Brooks Mileson's continued hospitalisation.

The 59-year-old has bankrolled the tiny Dumfriesshire outfit's progress to the Clydesdale Bank Premier League from the Third Division. However, Mileson collapsed last week and is still undergoing tests at a Newcastle hospital to establish the cause of the problem.

"We can confirm that players and staff were issued with a notice from our human resources department to tell them that due to Brooks Mileson being in hospital, normal procedures had not been taken and they could not be paid on time," said a club spokesman.

You misunderstood my comment-it was directed at them-not you! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-19 10:21:54
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Feb 19 2008, 10:18 AM) [snapback]406633[/snapback]
Think you need to have words with Dougie, knowing him since you were 4 and he bulls***s you like that. tongue.gif

Now if only it had been cabin crew! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-19 10:23:04
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 19 2008, 10:07 AM) [snapback]406624[/snapback]
That sounds like a bad toilet cleaner laugh.gif

Buffy ludo-tremendous fun!
mortonjag 2008-02-19 10:26:44 `I will personally be grateful if we can all now close ranks and give Dave and Derek a wonderful welcome on Saturday coupled with a typical Morton support for the team.


So will we Shoogly-I take it that's a veiled apology to the home fans.

I suppose anything's better than nothing.

C'MON YE TON.
mortonjag 2008-02-19 10:30:14
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Feb 19 2008, 09:23 AM) [snapback]406609[/snapback]
Andf a huge influx of foregn medical staff to help deal with it. Both are facts and I accept both. Do you?

Yes-to 'help'.
mortonjag 2008-02-19 10:31:13
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 19 2008, 09:53 AM) [snapback]406617[/snapback]
ohmy.gif ohmy.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif ohmy.gif Cunny funt. tongue.gif

He thinks you're a pufe Weegie! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-19 10:33:05
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Feb 19 2008, 10:17 AM) [snapback]406630[/snapback]
would it then not be a c***inum

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mortonjag 2008-02-19 10:34:12 Maybe JM and MC will now take the Gretna vacancy and surprise us all!
mortonjag 2008-02-19 12:23:04
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 19 2008, 12:04 PM) [snapback]406744[/snapback]
And you think that's funny?? Muz better watch out tongue.gif

It's what I KNOW that makes it funny! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-19 12:26:56 I'd forget any 'parachute payment' until we see what happens. The wages were not paid-excuses about Mileson being in hospital etc., are excuses.They could end up in administration very soon.
mortonjag 2008-02-19 12:28:44
QUOTE(Torro @ Feb 19 2008, 10:38 AM) [snapback]406661[/snapback]
Let it go , you,ll be boiling bunnies next rolleyes.gif

Let what go bully boy?

Nothing wrong with rabbit stew.
mortonjag 2008-02-19 12:32:30
QUOTE(Dougie @ Feb 19 2008, 11:59 AM) [snapback]406743[/snapback]
I aint been to a game since boxing day as I was sick of standing arguing with happy clappers every week who insisted I should not shout at Jim and co. On Saturday I will be back and I will be their to encourage the team and the new managerial regime.

Toby and me are good mates and I will leave him to defend his own corner cause he is a big enough boy to do it. Knowing Gerry I know that he could not give a f£$% what you write on this board in fact you are probably encouraging him by calling him a bam!

What I will say on the matter though is that a certain chairman of a certain first division football club should take a long hard look at himself over this whole situation. There needs to be a bit of give and old Raemanov is partly to blame for developing a siege mentality between the club and the fans. Yes the players are getting caught in the cross fire and this may not be fair, however perhaps its time for their employer to stick his head above the parapit as I beleive he is a major cause of the tensions amongst Morton supporters. Him and the demon drink of course!!!!

He has suggested we all 'pull together now'.

I think that's as close as you'll ever get to an apology from the Chairman. Hopefully this new appointment signals a genuine improvement in matters down Scapa way.
mortonjag 2008-02-19 12:34:07
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Feb 19 2008, 12:28 PM) [snapback]406761[/snapback]
Thing is to remember the difference between Administration and going out of business. Gretna could continue to run as a business in administration although it would probably die a death as I can't see it being attractive as a going concern. Anyone fancy a new flat at Raydale Gardens?

You conniving B Ratarse-I bet you had this planned for months.

When do the founds go down BTW? tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-19 12:40:15 Morton 2-St Johnstone 1

Scorers Jenkins and LEAFY! smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-19 13:16:07
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Feb 19 2008, 12:56 PM) [snapback]406781[/snapback]
It wisnae me Mr, honest. It was that Alibi, he's got to recoup his cash owed somehow!! He's Mr Landlord afterall. laugh.gif

True, but I thought Alibi likes Mr Mileson! Maybe he'll forego the creditors' meeting. laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-19 13:21:28 I think fortune has smiled on the club-well in a sort of way. Our nadir coincided with Gretna's and we've jumped in there.

Credit is still due to the Board, and to Mr Rae in particular. I sense he has been relatively prudent on this occasion.

I can't think of any reason not to be positive at the moment. A top five place is STILL possible.
mortonjag 2008-02-19 13:23:59
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Feb 19 2008, 12:41 PM) [snapback]406772[/snapback]
ohmy.gif huh.gif huh.gif WTF you on about?

I'm on about what I KNOW about you, you daftie! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-19 13:27:01
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Feb 19 2008, 01:23 PM) [snapback]406811[/snapback]
A message to all the negativity boys "From your leader"

I agree with the credit is due bit tho

You are a cheeky boy-I was never one of the negativity boys-I always tried to be optimistic about forthcoming games, and I've always given the players my full support.

I have been an arch critic of JM and of The Chairman. My criticism was positive.
mortonjag 2008-02-19 13:28:40
QUOTE(centralTON @ Feb 19 2008, 01:27 PM) [snapback]406821[/snapback]
Is that with reference to the hen night video. wink.gif

Don't be vulgar-Mr Rae gave that up weeks ago.
mortonjag 2008-02-19 13:33:27
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 19 2008, 12:39 PM) [snapback]406767[/snapback]
A veiled apology for a veiled dig?

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mortonjag 2008-02-19 14:40:24
QUOTE(suda @ Feb 19 2008, 01:37 PM) [snapback]406835[/snapback]
and relentless and over the top but it's nice to hear you've changed your tune for 5 minutes anyway

You are entitled to your opinion, and your cynicism.
mortonjag 2008-02-19 14:41:50
QUOTE(tontric @ Feb 19 2008, 02:22 PM) [snapback]406861[/snapback]
Glad to hear you giving Mr Rae a break. Others on here should take your lead and get off peoples back. Now is the time for us all to unite and move forward.

I'd be interested to know the views on the appointment from the guys that have been getting stick on here over the last week, e.g Toby. I really hope they will view this as a fresh start.

I always said I'd give credit where due. I believe the appointment will be much more successful than the last.
mortonjag 2008-02-19 14:42:30
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Feb 19 2008, 02:23 PM) [snapback]406862[/snapback]
Perhaps the most critical question is this, whatever will become of McInally's Mole?

Irons informer.
mortonjag 2008-02-19 15:54:21
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Feb 19 2008, 03:37 PM) [snapback]406973[/snapback]
I didn't think Duechar would come here anyway as he is a GP and wants to be part time?

Having just typed that I wondered how he gets away with it at Gretna - maybe I is talking s***e?

He's still a junior doctor I believe, MT, and works sessions at Wishaw Hospital. He will have signed a six monrh contrat from 1st February to do a fixed number-he can't change that. As he already manages to play for Gretna, I guess he could come here IF he wanted to.
mortonjag 2008-02-19 15:57:34 I's a wee bit daft to get upset over the management selection. Only time will tell how well ANYBODY fits into a given situation. Irons may not have been my first choice, but he certainly wasn't my last, and with potential relegation looming, this IS a time to get behind the management and players.
mortonjag 2008-02-19 16:00:18 Either Smith or Jenkins.
mortonjag 2008-02-19 16:08:38
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 19 2008, 04:00 PM) [snapback]406996[/snapback]
IT WAS BROOK'S MONEY THAT LEAD GRETNA TO THE SPL.

personally i dont believe it was Brook's money that lead them to the SPL but people cant stop and use that argument when they want and then discard it when theyre trying to make a different point.

either gretna went through the leagues fair and square and for the benifit of mortonjag didnt ' cheat ' us into winning the 2nd division.

ive had arguments with plenty of people on here about how much money a team spent to win the league being nothing new just because its in the lower leagues.

Gretna got through the leagues because of the people in charge, i just have a different view on who the main persons influence on them winning was.

You're having a bad hair day!

Anyway let's get this straight once and for all-it was primarily Mileson's money which saw the rapid rise of his 'folly'.

He put so much between Gretna and everybody else in terms of player quality, wages, and bonuses, that a Muppet could have managed them to success

That's not to say that Irons and Alexander didn't have a little input!

It's also pretty well accepted that Ro was the front man who dealt with Pony Tail and signed the squad, while Davie Irons was working away behind the scenes.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 06:39:53
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 19 2008, 04:23 PM) [snapback]407025[/snapback]
That wasn't poetry. That's 'Kansas City' with word changes. Jeezo, I thought you were a cultured fellow.

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Probaby Mr Edwards, but the younger posters keep telling me Pop Stars are musicians!

I was rather proud of my use of zeugma in the third and fourth lines.

Anyway, the Limerick is my 'stock in trade'.

Are you going to Saturday's 'fair'?
The Norseman at three will be bare.
There'll be Collins and Irons
and Shoogly and sirens
His speech will be fine I declare.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 06:44:28
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 19 2008, 04:10 PM) [snapback]407006[/snapback]
The MOBO's do not discriminate at all. Joss Stone won one last year. She's white.

The idea of this is to get gay men interested in playing football. It's obviously something that a gay guy might shy away from and if he feels more comfortable playing in a team where he's not gonna have to take constant abuse then fair play to them.

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mortonjag 2008-02-20 06:49:47
QUOTE(leyTON @ Feb 19 2008, 10:20 PM) [snapback]407287[/snapback]
yes you are a racist in my view
some of the words you are using are echoes of garbage being sputed from editorials all over the country
drained by mothers? what are we supposed to do let them have their baby in their house?
false claimants? there are plenty homegrown false claimants but yet you dont seem to mind them? should they get booted out?
total double standards - id wager you either read the sun or the mail. if its the sun then its owned by a foreigner not paying taxes, so not contributing to the economy
you hear celtic fans moaning about a ban on polish workers, and people who cant speak english, yet they dont mind boruc and nakamura

Well he's not a racist in mine-nothing he's stated is substantially untrue, and one of the easiest and cruellest counter attacks when you don't like hearing the truth is to pull out the 'racist' card.

Frankly you should be ashamed of yourself. You clearly haven't a clue about the real issues, yet feel at liberty to accuse Scotsguy of stealing his information from the press. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-20 06:55:16 I take Toby's line-there are plenty of people dying every day through no fault of their own-goodness it's perfectly possible that there may have been a few Gretna fans on the verge of suicide recently. People ARE responsible for their actions.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 07:02:48
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 19 2008, 04:36 PM) [snapback]407047[/snapback]
Firstly, I suspect you are all being a bit previous with all this talk about administration. I am well aware that financially Gretna are not exactly well organised to put it mildly, but I tend to think that the business of players not getting paid is likely to be for the reasons claimed. They may be doing badly on the pitch but that hasn't really affected their finances to any great extent as they knew their crowds would be low. I have a suspicion that some of their apparent cash flow problems stem from money owed to them by other clubs - you guess which ones, but I have been told at least 4 names of clubs who owe them money.

Secondly yes, I do like Brookes. He comes across as a decent bloke and whilst it is possible I am misjudging him, I have dealt with a few crooked types in my time, people who tried to rip you off at every turn, and I don't think he's one of them. Hugh_Scott he is not. I for one wish him a speedy recovery and the willpower to give up smoking.

I my experience the true 'con men' are always likeable.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 07:05:52
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 19 2008, 09:50 PM) [snapback]407269[/snapback]
Not looking good for any long term survival of the club at the present level . With not exactly a huge support to rely on financially .

So much for living the dream , problem is we all have to live in the real world . Even if they stave off going belly up they will be favourites to get relegated next season .

Nothing like hedging your bets Chris-they're well and truly f*cked, and F*ck them!
mortonjag 2008-02-20 07:12:19 I think it's a 'good and safe appointment' in terms of staying in Division 1, and that's all that matters right now.

Longer term, I haven't a clue. Only time will tell.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 07:16:02
QUOTE(JANTON1 @ Feb 19 2008, 05:11 PM) [snapback]407077[/snapback]
reading through some of this garbage makes me wonder why anyone in their right mind would want to take this job anyway. Davie Irons better watch out for the vultures circulating over Cappielow just willing him to fail.

Lets try something new on this board.......ENCOURAGEMENT !!

I think this is a good appointment. Lets give the guy a bit of help to avoid relegation by actually being on his side !!

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Don't be silly-they're just miffed because their favourites didn't get the job!
mortonjag 2008-02-20 07:22:19
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 19 2008, 06:27 PM) [snapback]407140[/snapback]
Not the experienced manager we were hoping for or expected, unless you count six months of witnessing your team getting pumped every week in the SPL as experience; and Derek Collins, Mr Morton for the G-Star RAW generation, his leadership qualities and skills never exactly came to the fore in 2003/4 season when the players conspired to throw away a 16 point lead at christmas time, or the time when McCormack supposedly lost the Dressing Room. dry.gif

However, it is a total masterstroke by our esteemed chairman. He has managed to demonstrate a complete lack of foresight and ambition AND pacify the majority of the supporters at the same time. Utter Genius, no wonder he has a few million in the bank.


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You can fool SOME of the people ALL of the time, You can fool ALL the people SOME of the time....

BUT YOU CANNOT FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL OF THE TIME.

The only foresight and ambition I have right now is to stay in this f*cking first division. We'll have a good idea by May how things are panning out.

I WILL say, however, that if Irons has been given a long term contract, I'd regard that as crass stupidity.

Something else that strikes me about Irons as distinct from JM is that he's quite a bright bloke, and certainly capable of out thinking the Chairman. Maybe he is the man we need after all. Somebody who can make Mr Rae THINK he's in charge! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-20 07:29:04 RUSTY Irons, and Joan.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 09:00:23
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 20 2008, 08:31 AM) [snapback]407378[/snapback]
I'd second that. I've not been at many games this season due to work and ice hockey but survival has to be the only priority for the rest of this season. If that is achieved then we can take it from there.
It struck me yesterday that Rae has a poor history of appointing managers, let's hope he's got it right this time. That's all I'm saying on the appointment but would add that the Gretna 'experiment' was one of the most shocking things ever allowed to happen by the football authorities (a child could have told you that balance sheets are what matters in any business) and the possibility of becoming a Gretna B team holds nothing for me.

Totally agree with that. I had no objection to 'wee' Gretna being in the third division and seeing what they could achieve on their own. I cannot believe the authorities had the stupidity to allow ground sharing. Everybody with any commercial sense wanted St Johnstone in the SPL-FFS they missed it by ONE minute, yet too many fools seemed to have bought into 'living the dream'.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 10:15:59 Anything which adds to the strength of the squad and competition for places is welcome IMO.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 10:18:54
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Feb 20 2008, 08:57 AM) [snapback]407382[/snapback]
He works in my building, probably walked past him a hundred times. I'll track him down and grill him tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-02-20 10:27:49 The curiosity element always hauls out the armchair fans, and the OF are not playing either. St Johnstone just beat Hamilton-they will bring a fair few.

Hopefully the 'feel good' factor is back. I'm predicting a crowd just over 4000!

C'MON YE TON
mortonjag 2008-02-20 10:35:45
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 20 2008, 10:27 AM) [snapback]407399[/snapback]
Did he not only start chain smoking when he found out he had MS?

Haven't a clue Boozy, and he doesn't have MS, but ME which is very different. Furthermore he makes no secret of the fact that he deliberately neglects a decent diet and exercise.

I believe old Brooksy is an archetypal chancer. I remember a bit in one of the English broadsheets about his early days, when he acted as a 'heavy' for a money lending crowd.

After that we had stuff about being a 'Born Again Christian', etc., etc., etc.!!!

Not much charity in your staff going home without their wages! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-20 10:38:54
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 20 2008, 10:37 AM) [snapback]407406[/snapback]
I doubt we will break the 3000 mark.

Never happier than when you're havin' a good old moan eh? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

BTW do you think Mr Rae will be doing his speech?
mortonjag 2008-02-20 10:41:08
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Feb 19 2008, 10:07 PM) [snapback]407281[/snapback]
Bollocks, they were at it for ages in the 1st 20 mins of the game, still, good result all the same and another wonder goal from Gerard, wish we had his stature at Scappa rolleyes.gif

Not sure about a statue Gibby, but you could buy a brick for the wall!
mortonjag 2008-02-20 10:51:15
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 20 2008, 10:41 AM) [snapback]407409[/snapback]
Certainly not moaning, I'm delighted with the management appointment, I think we will get a result on Saturday I just don't think many of my fellow Morton fans are as optimistic as me.

Onwards and upwards

edit to add - any speech will be short and sweet, as in ''a big welcome to Davie and Derek, I hope you all get right behind them''.
I'll also be happy with that. tongue.gif

Onward and upward indeed then! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-20 14:57:09
QUOTE(leyTON @ Feb 20 2008, 12:27 PM) [snapback]407446[/snapback]
no, beacuse we are qall part of the same country, thus they are not people from another country as such.
how are his views biased, he is clearly anit immigration
people like yourself cannot and will not be persuaded by common sense, nor will i be swept up into this hysteria about immigration as i dont belive it has a negative impact on the economy. i take your point on people not working, but to me workshy people who live in this country and blame immigrants are just as bad

He is clearly in favour of immigration control LeyTON-that is NOT anti immigration, and certainly not racist.

It's also unfair to lump 'the workshy people who live in this country' along with those who have just arrived. Many who are using our benefits syystem currently, have previously made contributions, or have friends and family who are still making contributions.

The fact is that we have allowed ourselves to become a dumping ground in many cases. The Poles are an obvious exception. My son employs Polish labour, some of whom I kow personally, and I can assure you that those very Poles can see the vast difference between their way of life and work ethic, and those of more recent entrants to this country.

Furthermore I know several second and third generation Asian Scots who are disgusted by the present situation and who are crying out for some kind of immigration control.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 15:02:45
QUOTE(Capuan @ Feb 20 2008, 12:58 PM) [snapback]407460[/snapback]
Agreed, it was never ever going to be sustainable in the long term. However there financial position has much worsened since they reached the SPL. Had they been in the 1st division the financial strain would have been significantly less and they would not be staring at the same mass exodus. Eventaully it still may have happened but the SPL has significantly hastened their impending disaster.

Seems the SPL DO get something right then! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-20 15:06:22 There's nothing in that report you couldn't have predicted. Survival is the priority. Interestingly contracts have still to be signed, and I hope they are short term in the first instance.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 15:14:13
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 20 2008, 02:54 PM) [snapback]407510[/snapback]
I think Gr£tna have enough problems without a costly legal battle for compensation .

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It would be amusing to see them looking for compensation in terms of a 'five year rolling contract'. If they're still here in five months, I doubt if Mileson will still be involved!
mortonjag 2008-02-20 15:16:51
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Feb 20 2008, 03:14 PM) [snapback]407518[/snapback]
David Bowie
Frank Zappa
Bob Dylan

Caruso
Pavarotti
Celine Dion
mortonjag 2008-02-20 15:22:06
QUOTE(Bryan @ Feb 20 2008, 03:17 PM) [snapback]407525[/snapback]
emergency loans are at the discretion of the SFL board

Are there no upper or lower limits-can we get as many as we want-what consitutes an 'emergency'-does the SFL Board do 'sweeteners'-will Hamilton object-etc., etc.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 16:22:27
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 20 2008, 04:05 PM) [snapback]407542[/snapback]
Super Ro won't find it so funny if Gretna goes to the wall . It is obvious Mileson is keeping them going how long can he remain incharge while being so ill.

It would seem to the outside viewer that Brooks does not trust anyone else to keep up with throwing money away on his dream .

Well, even at this stage in the game, he's apparently personally bankrolling the wages bill to the tune of about 1.5 million per annum. That's enough to make anybody ill, especially when the other bills are apparently just mounting up, and he's lost his management team. 'Livin' the nightmare'!! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-20 16:34:41
QUOTE(gmsc-doco-1874 @ Feb 20 2008, 04:29 PM) [snapback]407546[/snapback]
couple of seasons ago... ian dowie resigned as manager of crystal palace to take over at charlton a couple of days later

the palace chairman sued dowie for breach of contract...

can't anything happening with us because the cannot ask for money off us if they fail themselves to pay collins & irons contracts up to date before departure.

and by reading the paper today
its looking like brooks doesn't have long left
as the game between rangers & gretna on sunday may be called off incase brooks dies before then and probably
wages for the second week running will not be paid.

I don't understand. They're planning to call off an SPL fixture 'in case he dies'!!!

FFS I hope he doesn't remain on the critical list till the end of the season! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-20 17:09:15
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 20 2008, 04:43 PM) [snapback]407557[/snapback]
Ah, but the UK has sufficient sums to pump £100 billion into Northern Rock, the banking equivalent of Gretna, not forgetting the multiple billions spent on Iraq the computerising of the NHS, the ID card scheme...
We can afford any cost of immigration - which is irrelevent as immigrants are contributing a net surplus to the economy and filling vital skilled and unskilled vacancies.
Immigration control cannot be successful - there are far too many ways to avoid the system.
All it would lead to would be the new migrants entering illegally and contributing nothing to the tax system.
Let the new Volkswanderung happen in a economically beneficial way.

You speak from books my child. Time to open your eyes.

Why, in any case, should the 'economy' be the yardstick-not that I believe for one minute that global immigration generates a net surplus.

Radix malorum est cupiditas.

And while I'm on quotations-'Lies, damned lies, and statistics'.

'We can afford any cost of immigration' you claim. No we cannot-neither fiscally, nor socially.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 17:12:34
QUOTE(gmsc-doco-1874 @ Feb 20 2008, 04:36 PM) [snapback]407552[/snapback]
think it was back page of record unsure.gif

I'm not disputing what you've said. It just seems crazy to do anything 'in case someone dies'. Knowing good old Brooksy, he'll bounce back!
mortonjag 2008-02-20 17:13:49
QUOTE(18-deano-ehm-74 @ Feb 20 2008, 04:58 PM) [snapback]407566[/snapback]
I understand that, I thought it was because of the (12) fans and stuff.

Feeling bad for Brooks I can understand.

Down to ten apparently.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 17:16:19 Don't worry, the lazy hacks will be boosting this game-bear in mind the OF don't play till Sunday, so we'll have a few more inches of column available.

I'm confident of high 3000's and hopefully over 4000.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 17:18:08
QUOTE(Patg @ Feb 20 2008, 05:14 PM) [snapback]407578[/snapback]
Irons is quoted in Teletext on ITV as saying if club goes into adminastration he will go back for some of there players ...

Pat G

Clearly he considers administration a possibility, if not a likelihood.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 17:25:26
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 20 2008, 05:21 PM) [snapback]407586[/snapback]
Were Davie and Derek considered fans? wink.gif

NO-Bill and Ben have become Queens supporters, though little weed is still faithful to the cause.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 17:28:40
QUOTE(gmsc-doco-1874 @ Feb 20 2008, 05:26 PM) [snapback]407595[/snapback]
give him a wee bottle a lucozade
that will make him bounce back laugh.gif

FFS don't give him a big bottle or he might buy Greenock Juniors!
mortonjag 2008-02-20 17:38:55
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 20 2008, 05:32 PM) [snapback]407600[/snapback]
Firstly, the vast majority of immigrants are of working age, many students and young adults, helping to offset the serious pensioner problem that will cripple the current state system within the forseeable future.
On the social aspect, if people find it disturbing to see foreign faces, cultures and languages, then surely that's more of an indication of their own prejudices than that of immigrants?
The simple fact is, if you are an unskilled worker, complaining about the increased competition from abroad, ask yourself - after years of comprehensive education, a generally reasonable standard of living and opportunities closed to members of the decayed Eastern bloc - why do you have the same skill level as these people?
In reality, there is a far bigger "problem" as such faced by workshy citizens and underacheivers than faced by immigrants.
Migration is historical and constant, so there is actually no point in complaining about people's freedom to move - a freedom which was so easily portrayed as a bonus in order to undermine the Soviets in the Cold War.
Or mebbe we should create another Iron Curtain to keep them out?

Our current immigration policy is a 'cop out'. No amount of theorising and producing statistics will alter that.

You claim that the majority of immigrants are of working age. Possibly, but within three years they have two weans being maintained by the taxpayer-they have every reason to breed like rabbits, and I assure you they do.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 20:57:00
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 20 2008, 07:48 PM) [snapback]407651[/snapback]
Which in turn would help alleviate the ageing population and the future pension problem.
Population is perhaps of greater concern to England, but Scotland has a far lower poulation density and needs immigration to at very least maintain the current population.
I genuinely cannot understand why you get your knickers in such a twist over a group of people simply wanting to improve their lives.

Possibly because you don't have it on your doorstep, and they are 'improving their lives' at my expense.

I get weary of kids regurgitating stuff they've learned in Social Studies classes and so on. Read Willowman's last post, and that is NOTHING compared to some city areas. It's OK for you Inverclyde people to talk. Come and see.

Immigration I welcome, if it GENUINELY improves the quality of our country. What I am talking about is a blight on our society, and a bloody expensive one at that.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 21:05:00
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 20 2008, 06:31 PM) [snapback]407618[/snapback]
Aye but she is a slapper...always hanging about with that Bill and Ben and flobbing their dobbers ohmy.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Apparently Wurzel Gummidge is now officially a Stranraer supporter.

Not many left!
mortonjag 2008-02-20 21:11:50
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Feb 20 2008, 08:21 PM) [snapback]407664[/snapback]
That's just carrot-dangling pish - spill the beans or may your next s*** be a hedgehog! tongue.gif

Mixed metaphors!

I do like the carrot dangling pish

Turnip dangling tadger! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-20 21:16:55
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 20 2008, 09:03 PM) [snapback]407681[/snapback]
So how are they directly improving at your expense?
And I don't doubt the green and white tink situation will be far more severe in about an hours time. tongue.gif

Well let's just put it like this VT-the ancestors of those green and white tinks came over here to do an honest day's work-a bit like today's Polish invasion. I'm talking about something entirely different. If you don't know what I'm talking about, there's no point in your arguing with me.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 21:25:52
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 20 2008, 08:48 PM) [snapback]407676[/snapback]
the bold wendy ??

I think we saw her on an Australian documentary just before the Scots elections.

She was not overly articulate when she was being interviewed in Linwood.

Seemed at bit of a waste land.

Wendy blended in very well.

You wouldn't say she was pretty.

and you wouldn't say she was ugly.

Just pretty ugly.

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Cruel Newt-very cruel. The truth is hurtful! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-20 21:30:48
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 20 2008, 09:26 PM) [snapback]407690[/snapback]
there's no point in your arguing with me

debating please, chaps.

Debating.

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How dare you debate with me!
mortonjag 2008-02-20 21:39:05
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 20 2008, 09:33 PM) [snapback]407699[/snapback]
huh.gif what was the purpose of that post?

Education, I'd imagine forza

Kimacolm-church or cell of Columba

Kilbarchan
Kilwinning
Kilbirnie

etc.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 21:41:49
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 20 2008, 09:26 PM) [snapback]407691[/snapback]
perish the thought that anyone might consider this messageboard a 'rag' sad.gif

Perish anyone who considered this messageboard a 'rag'. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-20 21:44:02
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 20 2008, 09:42 PM) [snapback]407704[/snapback]
yes but i knew that anyway unsure.gif i think it was just wikipedia tom trying to show off. for a change.

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Surely Mr Bam doesn't need to show off, forza.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 21:51:43
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Feb 20 2008, 09:45 PM) [snapback]407708[/snapback]
I know for a fact that when the Tesco boys came up against planning difficulties, they called Wendy Alexander directly to make sure it was sorted.

I'm sure I remember something about that.

Tesco are extremely ruthless in the property business. They are currently developing a huge site in the Yorkhill/Partick area, and one of my relatives has been involved in negotiations with them.

From what he says, I think Bendy Wendy's clubcard statement might have made interesting reading at that time.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 21:57:24
QUOTE(Cosmos @ Feb 20 2008, 09:51 PM) [snapback]407711[/snapback]
PLEASE get behind the team on Sat. Davie Irons and Derek deserve a great reception. CMON the Ton. With a fighting spirit we'll stay up. We're a 1st division team NO QUESTION unsure.gif

I just checked-you are correct. Last season we were a second division team. Once we were a Premier League team.



C'MON YE TON!
mortonjag 2008-02-20 22:13:51
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 20 2008, 10:06 PM) [snapback]407722[/snapback]
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Glad she didn't make a c*nt of it.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 22:23:26
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 20 2008, 10:15 PM) [snapback]407727[/snapback]
That's shocking Newton biggrin.gif

Ah the old Chronic Rigidity Yearning syndrome-speak to Gash-he's into penis pumps in a BIG way!
mortonjag 2008-02-20 22:33:54
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 20 2008, 10:24 PM) [snapback]407731[/snapback]
Firstly, immigration is at the highest recorded level, not of all time.
Unless of course, the mass hordes of Goths, Huns, Vandals, Suebi and Alans that laid waste to the Western empire in the 5th century were actually just a couple of peasants and a cart.
Secondly, claiming the Conservatives as a basis on immigration policy doesn't really cut it - they're irrelevant and backward.

Now, as for the alkies remark, Eastern europeans were not responsible for the two world wars, or the Holocaust and were opowerless to stop the imposition of communism (indeed, many fought against it with the lure of "freedom" in the West). They are not, as you make out, theiving and pillaging the country - they are settling down with their families to make a new life for themselves.

In my opinion, it is clear that the world develops according to a cycle of development - countries like China and India took over Europe as the heart of heavy industry due to the very principle of free market economics: they are more competitive.
That is a fact - the decline of heavy industry was inevitable and natural - had a government effectively prepared for the transition then perhaps people wouldn't get quite so emotive about this issue.
Now as for depriving services: a basically free health service, comprehensive education, a transport system that, although needing work is still basically intact - the UK is a very prosperous and successful country at the moment.
There are things that can be improved, but in comparison to places like Poland there is a clear, human attraction to move - one that will not be stopped by legal restrictions.

The reason why immigration is in the headlines is primarily because demented slevvering psychopaths writing in the Daily Mail and Daily Express wield a considerable amount of power with the government despite their irrational views.
That is the vote the two main parties are chasing - hence the publicity, leaked memos, statements.

Its really irritating to see people blaming immigrants for the current problems within the country when incompetent politicians such as Brown can get away with squandering tens of billions by pandering to the lowest common denominator, such as "British jobs for British workers" - a tone almost unheard of since the Fuhrer himself declared the Volksgemeinschaft. dry.gif

VT, do you have ANY first hand experience of the effects of unbridled immigration. I suspect not.

If, as NewTON suggests, you're only on here for a debate, it's quite probable that you are the very type who will end up as one of those politicians you so despise.

Incidentally, I don't BLAME immigrants for anything. I blame the bloody politicians for the current mess. I do, however, blame PC befuddled clowns for confusing the issue, and for preaching at those who can use their eyes and ears.

mortonjag 2008-02-20 22:38:44
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 20 2008, 10:35 PM) [snapback]407740[/snapback]
You and a couple of others on here appear to have an answer for everything so do you have an answer / justification for my statement on my previous post wink.gif

He's checking his books!
mortonjag 2008-02-20 22:42:22
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 20 2008, 10:32 PM) [snapback]407737[/snapback]
Unlike the immigrants who are given fully furnished housing / clothing / etc.

Little known fact Willow. GP's in inner city areas are paid a bonus to take immigrants onto their lists!
mortonjag 2008-02-20 22:51:52
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 20 2008, 10:44 PM) [snapback]407750[/snapback]
Merely improving the standard of living of the local GP and totally justified.

Open the borders and send more of them in tongue.gif

If only!

The truth is they DON'T want them-they would bleed the NHS dry overnight given half a chance, and are followed around by f*cking interpreters, social workers, welfare rights officers, etc., -ALL paid for by US.

Now little VT can argue-sorry debate- till he's blue in the face, but I'm talking from EXPERIENCE.

Do I blame those people-not at all-they cannot help the culture from which they come, and let's face it, nobody knocks back a free lunch ticket. That does NOT make it acceptable.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 22:58:40
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 20 2008, 10:46 PM) [snapback]407753[/snapback]
Good thing - it helps to prevent the spread of any infectious diseases and generally helps to improve the welfare of our newest residents.

And that's page 7. smile.gif

Ha-but they are not OBLIGED to take them-thus it's the greedy b*****ds who inflate their lists, knowing full well they can never cope with the demand.

Result-a HUGE increase in unnecessary prescriptions, and 'freebies', often without, or with only the most basic sham of a consultation-huge waste of public money.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 23:00:45
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Feb 20 2008, 10:46 PM) [snapback]407754[/snapback]
The rise in people feeling resentful is alarming but not surprising.

LL I'm astonished it's taken so long. This has been going on for almost ten years, though it's now reaching epidemic proportions.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 23:02:48
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 20 2008, 10:48 PM) [snapback]407756[/snapback]
Well, well, well.

So it's justifiable that a block of flats that a council claimed weren't fit to be inhabited and REFUSED to house local homeless folk in were suddenly refurbished at the cost of hundreds of thousands of pounds to house immigrants ??

The child is young and innocent Willow-he will learn!
mortonjag 2008-02-20 23:04:29
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 20 2008, 10:50 PM) [snapback]407758[/snapback]
No that's not justifiable, but that's the fault of incompetent local officials rather than that of immigrants.
Now bviously the situation differs from area to area, but certainly Inverclyde has more than enough spare housing capacity to take in all the homeless and a substantial amount of immigrants from other countries.

HOW RIGHT YOU ARE SONNY.


Fancy five or six train loads right now?
mortonjag 2008-02-20 23:06:42
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 20 2008, 10:53 PM) [snapback]407762[/snapback]
But it isn't immigration that is causing increasing prices - its the increase in demand from China and India for the commodities the West used to have a majority hold over.
The USA economy is boosted by an estimated $20 billion net a year from immigration - California relies on Hispanics in order to collect the harvests and perform the functionary work that makes California such a detestable place to live.
IMO of course.

Bloody hell VT-we can ALL read.

OPEN YOUR F*CKING EYES, and stop arguing (debating) with folk who are talking from personal experience.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 23:08:13
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 20 2008, 11:06 PM) [snapback]407778[/snapback]
Anymore pish like that and VT will be calling you a RACIST tongue.gif biggrin.gif tongue.gif

I can feel it coming Willow! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-20 23:14:40
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Feb 20 2008, 10:55 PM) [snapback]407765[/snapback]
Sorry I have to disagree there, I am working and have worked in almost every service you have mentioned above. We have citizens here and now living in abject poverty and squalor like you will never imagine. We have to be able to afford these basics and habitable accommodation for our own before we start giving handouts to strangers. We have pensioners living in cold and dire conditions. Charity begins at home.

Very true and very sad. The single state pensioner receives only a fraction of the support foisted on immigrants and asylum seekers, Not only that, but by the nature of OUR culture, our home grown elderly are very slow to ask for help. Compare that to the yabbering 'ME ME ME' culture of many of those immigrants.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 23:17:34
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 20 2008, 11:10 PM) [snapback]407784[/snapback]
I would never do such a thing.
A conservative, possibly a bit paranoid auld duffer, but never racist. tongue.gif

Not a TORY though.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 23:19:38
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 20 2008, 11:15 PM) [snapback]407795[/snapback]
The majority of those flats have been closed due to water ingress which has proved almost impossible to stop as they weren't built correctly in the first place.

I'm here to help.

The irony Boozie!
mortonjag 2008-02-20 23:26:12
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 20 2008, 11:17 PM) [snapback]407798[/snapback]
What about the old exiles more than happy to claim winter fuel allowance despite living in Spain?
Its more of an issue about education rather than a reluctance to claim - many simply don't know what they're entitled to.

NO IT'S NOT son-and I'm TELLING you. If you don't listen to your teachers you don't learn. Stop plagiarising whichever piece of political crap you've most recently been coming all over, and give some of the older posters credit for a bit of intelligence and life experience.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 23:29:36
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 20 2008, 11:18 PM) [snapback]407801[/snapback]
Of course not.
I was careful not to mention the big 'C'.

Wendy?
mortonjag 2008-02-20 23:32:38
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 20 2008, 11:19 PM) [snapback]407802[/snapback]
On my way to wok tomorrow I'm going to ignore the blind lady who in the past I've helped across the road on her way to work, and instead buy cups of tea for all the foreign beggars and give them all the money out of my bank account, afterall they're more deserving ohmy.gif

They're going to cannibalise you?
mortonjag 2008-02-20 23:33:13
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 20 2008, 11:27 PM) [snapback]407809[/snapback]
Using caps still won't shake me out of my wooly liberal globalistic world view. smile.gif

An immigrant nicking the bread out of your mouth might! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-20 23:38:37
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 20 2008, 11:34 PM) [snapback]407816[/snapback]
Nobody would struggle as much under a more efficient government.
Obviously there'd be relative poverty, but actual poverty could and must be eradicated,, if only New "Labour" couls stop chasing the immigrants with a flaming torch and actually get on with their task of creating the "social justice" of their taglines.

I thought they were welcoming them in! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-20 23:46:04
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 20 2008, 11:42 PM) [snapback]407825[/snapback]
Why can't you do both? smile.gif

Let's face it every generation has had their "bloody foreigners" pish. From the Irish, Indians, West Indians to today's Poles and Slavs. This stuff passes as the older generation do smile.gif

Willow was not talking about immigrants who are self supporting.

That is the whole point of this debate. Most of the 'Polish invasion' are in remunerative employment, and not on State benefit.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 23:48:17
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 20 2008, 11:44 PM) [snapback]407829[/snapback]
jim what is it with you and immigration? i think you're a good guy but you've been going on about this for EVER! i never seem to read you talking about other political concerns. don't you think the post i made about the billionaires taking us all for a ride is worth debating? they cost us more.

did a big gypsy steal your wig? tongue.gif

Then they have a lot to answer for!
mortonjag 2008-02-20 23:50:40
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 20 2008, 11:49 PM) [snapback]407834[/snapback]
How many pages Gordon Brown then? laugh.gif

Gordon Brown is an immigrant.
mortonjag 2008-02-20 23:51:37
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 20 2008, 11:46 PM) [snapback]407832[/snapback]
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Truly horrific.

Is he a rapper?
mortonjag 2008-02-21 00:09:44
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Feb 20 2008, 11:58 PM) [snapback]407838[/snapback]
VT you can quote history going back 2000 years ago when the nations biggest worry was keeping a mudhut over its head or if some bugger was doing a bit of sheep rustling.

The issue of it all is that Uncontrolled Immigration is costing the UK a fortune. You have yet to produce figures to prove otherwise and any other documented proof saying how it is actually helping the UK.

Cards on the table facing up the way! A few of us have shown our hands, so show us the proof.

It's a new day, and he's still working on it!

Off to bed and to think. wink.gif

FFS he's found some more crap.

Will we ever get his opinion?

Does he have an informed opinion.

He is a mischief maker. blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-21 06:28:37
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 21 2008, 12:59 AM) [snapback]407851[/snapback]
As said previously what about people from the UK who are not self supporting?

Is he referring to immigrants who come here illegally and get no benefits? Surely the majority of them are supporting themselves with buckshee work? If not, and they are begging, how is that a drain on the economy? The problem with arguing over illegal immigrants is there have no evidence at all to support any estimate on their numbers.

If he is referring to asylum seekers does he propose not allowing them into the country despite our legal obligation to do so on the grounds other countries aren't? Willowman pointed out he was noble enough to help a blind woman cross the street. Surely he saw other people ignoring her. By this reasoning he should have ignored her as well as it caused a drain on him in some way as he had to take time out from going to work to do so. He done it as it was the right thing to do. As is giving asylum seekers a free chance to a new life in this country to flee from oppression in others.

Finally if he is referring to immigrants from within the EU does he not realise that it's a two way system and people from the UK are able to go in the opposite direction? I know of a couple of guys who have spent the summer in Spain/France/Portugal/Germany with no intention of working over there whereas I've yet to meet an immigrant to this country with no intention of working. There are a large amount of workers moving across the EU to and from lots of different countries and Britain is no different.

I think you'll find that Willowman is simply referring to unbridled immigration in general. Any clown can look up the rules for the three groups you've defined, but it's much more difficult to argue meaningfully when you have no hands-on experience of what's been happening.

That's the problem with the PC brigade, a huge infrastructure with a vested interest in the Status Quo, and two or three of our cosy rosy posters.

I wish you children would confine your intelligent debating to principles.

In practice you clearly haven't a clue.
mortonjag 2008-02-21 06:31:57
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 21 2008, 03:29 AM) [snapback]407854[/snapback]
Call yersel a doctor ? ! ? !

Every one knows that CRY syndrome is...

can't remember yesterday.

In serious cases, it can lead to Craft disease.

ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

You are a wicked man-I really really hope the good Nacho doesn't spot that!


You CRAFTY old cobber! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-21 06:35:45
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Feb 21 2008, 05:38 AM) [snapback]407855[/snapback]
I've had to go to Thailand at short notice. Will be thinking of the rain in greenock.

Another Morton match missed sad.gif

That beats 'naw it's the wife's birthday' hands down.

Very COOL! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-21 06:39:54 Many happy returns-I like the wee choon on your personal web site BTW! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-21 07:14:46
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 21 2008, 12:52 AM) [snapback]407849[/snapback]
Them bloody poles and their coming over here!

Expect this in a couple of years

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDThe monkey likes your skeleton-what is its name he's asking?
mortonjag 2008-02-21 07:41:55
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Feb 21 2008, 07:31 AM) [snapback]407861[/snapback]
An interesting couple of pages.

Of course Willowman is aware that it is a two way street. He worked in Hungary. That's why most of what he says should be ignored as he is being hypocritical. FMOW is fine when he's taking advantage of it, but not when others are.

The control on immigration has slipped recently mainly to allow people like WDE to bring their foreign wives in. In the past the application could be refused if it was thought that the primary purpose of the marriage was to gain entry to the UK. When that was dropped in 1997 the numbers entering increased dramatically.

Also, there needs to be a grown up debate about the differences between FMOW and illegal immigration. The right wing press like to lump the two together as it plays to the lowest common denominator that they serve. FMOW is a benefit to the economy - the birth rate has risen for the first time in years, which bodes well for those of who'll be looking for state pensions in the future. Illegal Immigration feeds the black market the same way that people who don't declare their full incomes do. It is a drain on the exchequer and costs all of us who declare our earnings money. Neither should be tolerated but you don't see the right wing press doing a number on the more difficult target.

Finally, for me on this thread and possibly the board, who was it said "To each according to their needs, from each according to their abilities"? There is too much greed and as a result we are undertaxed and borrowing to the max. It is unsustainable and that is the real cause of many of society's problems. Despite the nasty woman's assertion that society didn't exist. So don't blame it on the nasty foreigners. The Irish and Blacks have been the scapegoats in the past. Time for people to look at themselves for solutions.

Oh, Puggsy. Loved the Countdown thing but Y counts a avowel in Polish so the thing might be a little bit bigger.

What is FMOW?


Is it different from FMONW?


I agree with a good deal of what you've said, and I'm all for a free labour market within mutually agreed rules. The Poles are a good example of how that appears to be working pretty well.

Immigration issues are complex-they need simplification IMHO, but the fact remains that we are currently awash with jobless Europeans who beg, borrow, steal, work in the 'black economy' ANYTHING in an attempt to improve their lot. That includes depriving the taxpayer of vast sums of money paid in all sorts of benefits.

I have already said I don't blame those people, but I DO NOT welcome their presence on my doorstep. Nor, for that matter do my multi-cultural neighbours. We ARE a dumping ground-like it or not.

mortonjag 2008-02-21 08:51:23
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 21 2008, 08:31 AM) [snapback]407868[/snapback]
yeah but it's suits a lot of people to disregard how we came to be a wealthy country
pc brigade? who are these mythical people? the term politically correct is a misnomer. surely you think your politics are correct? our beliefs are correct to us all individually. do you mean people of a liberal persuasion? most people i know don't stick to one side of any spectrum but have their own views on individual issues. "the pc brigade" is a lazy , exhausted term used by reactionaries.

and why do you keep refering to people as children? patronising and boring mate.
here's mj trying to get aff his couch to post more s***e

That's the problem with the PC brigade.I wish you children would confine your intelligent debating to principles.


That is downright dishonesty-and you know it.That is not a quote from me-it's two pieces cobbled together to suit your ends forza-poor show!

I know EXACTLY what I mean by the PC brigade, and the term seems generally accepted. I would comment, however, that many of those people are not in truth 'politically correct', but choose to be for varying reasons-often in the furtherance of a career for example.

Finally, I only refer to posters as children when it's abundantly clear they have little life experience but are still happy to argue the toss with those who have.
mortonjag 2008-02-21 08:59:06
QUOTE(Green_oak_tree @ Feb 21 2008, 08:28 AM) [snapback]407867[/snapback]
It certainly took a lot longer than I anticipated but it was obvious someone would feel the need to spill the beans, I bet about 80% of the forum readers and posters knew the reasons but didn't post them, not to protect the player but the club. sad.gif

Does anyone have full details-did he call an opponent a nasty word in the heat of the moment? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-21 09:02:59
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 21 2008, 08:57 AM) [snapback]407873[/snapback]
All this talk of administration could end up becoming a self fulfilling prophecy - given that Gretna have never traded under normal rules of profit and loss (and that applies to most football clubs actually as few actually show a profit) it is clear that they are funded principally by Brookes Mileson. That has been the scenario for several years, and the only thing that has changed is that Brookes is ill in hospital. It's not as if their income streams, such as they are, have dried up, and I'd bet their wage bill has been slashed on the field at least. I can't see any good reason why their financial position should have deteriorated from its position one or two years ago - although it has to be said that they owe a lot of money to a lot of people, including me, and that isn't a very good way to run a business - a lot of people will be wanting current debts settled and financial guarantees before they will do any future work for Gretna. That's just common sense and normal good business practice.

I don't think anyone directly connected with Gretna FC is trying to rip anyone off here - I think it's more poor organisation than anything else, and in particular poor financial management, possibly coupled with some individuals elsewhere in the Mileson organisation, not within Gretna FC, maybe trying to line their own pockets. Some of the things I have been told point to that being at least part of the problem.

If they're not directly connected with Gretna F.C.,and Brooksy pays everything from his own bank account to whom nobody else is a signatory, I find that a puzzling statement.
mortonjag 2008-02-21 11:17:05
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 21 2008, 10:42 AM) [snapback]407897[/snapback]
Awash? Define awash? 1,000 jobless Europeans? 10,000? 1,000,000? Or do you go by percentages? 1% of Europeans who come here? 10%? Or do mean it as a percentage of the countries population? 6% of people in Britain are jobless Europeans? Point out these masses of jobless Europeans when I sign on today. I'll be looking for them behind the piles of neds trying to get crisis loan "for a new cooker" and the half dozen teenage single mums all born and raised in Greenock and then, tonight, when I go out for my birthday. I'll spend some of my time drinking with hard working Poles and Slovaks who contribute more taxes to this economy in a month than some people from here do in a year.

You may confuse our youthful endeavor with naiveity but that's what old people do. We may confuse your experience with being out of touch. That's what young people do. Now wrap yer blanket round yer legs and get ready for Diagnosis Murder smile.gif

It's well seen you mention Greenock! That DOES demonstrate your naivety. I invite you to spend a day with me during which I will take you on a guided tour of this great city. I assure you I have kept a finger firmly on the pulse, and that the term 'awash' is MORE than appropriate in certain areas.
mortonjag 2008-02-21 11:18:50
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 21 2008, 10:22 AM) [snapback]407889[/snapback]
Well, being a medico, you will know that it is hardly brain surgery.

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Has anyone tested DDFR ?

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Now now! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-21 11:31:13
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Feb 21 2008, 11:21 AM) [snapback]407909[/snapback]
Which is why he'll be dealt with the courts and the club in the appropriate manner.
It's not for us to judge or get on our high moral ground about.

I think Pedro was illustrating the fact that McGuffie has been found guilty of being in charge of a motor vehicle while he was incapable of driving safely, and that he might have wreaked personal havoc on others, while comparing that to Shields' arguably lesser alleged offence, which appeared to result in him leaving Cappielow.
mortonjag 2008-02-21 11:50:13
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 21 2008, 11:32 AM) [snapback]407912[/snapback]
Greenock isn't the only place I've spent time in y'know. I still don't see the streets of Glasgow awash with these bloody foreigners.

Glasgow has many many streets young man-I agree you will see relatively few foreign faces on the main drag between Bearsden and Milngavie.

I did not argue with your perception of the situation in Greenock.

Incidentally we have a co-poster who goes under the name of Whiteman in Govanhill, not that the good Asians of Govanhill have suffered any more than many of their close neighbours from the recent influx, which tends to have been decanted into areas with suitable high rise blocks.

As I said, you're welcome to a guided tour any time! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-21 11:55:15
QUOTE(Green_oak_tree @ Feb 21 2008, 11:44 AM) [snapback]407916[/snapback]
The only people getting worked up are those who didn't get to find out, jimmy boag delivers and pedro.mcghee ought to get over themselves.
Like InverAlly says it's a matter for the police and the club to decide how they deal with them.

How can you say that with confidence. Just suppose I were to tell you that I have confidentially been given information about both cases, and still think Pedro has a valid point. What would you say to that?
mortonjag 2008-02-21 12:00:44
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Feb 21 2008, 11:56 AM) [snapback]407921[/snapback]
That it's none of your business... wink.gif

Really-I think it IS my business, and the business of every paying customer at Cappielow to take an active interest in how the club deals with the peccadillos of its employees.

Maybe once full details come to light we can have a poll on the matter!
mortonjag 2008-02-21 12:03:37
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 21 2008, 11:58 AM) [snapback]407922[/snapback]
His name is Achmed, he is a dead terrorist!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-sSmX8pCYo...feature=related

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That's ever so sweet-did you kill him personally-my simian friend enquires?
mortonjag 2008-02-21 12:10:22
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 21 2008, 12:08 PM) [snapback]407929[/snapback]
I'm horrified you think I spend anytime in Bearsden or Milngavie when I visit the mean streets of Glasgow ohmy.gif

I didn't suggest you do! wink.gif

Are you coming on that guided tour or not? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-21 12:17:48
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 21 2008, 12:15 PM) [snapback]407933[/snapback]
He's nothing to do with me, honest Guv...methinks the monkley knows more than he is letter on! wink.gif

The monkey is a true pacifist Puggs-he wouldn't harm a fly unless it got too near his banana.
mortonjag 2008-02-21 12:29:19
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Feb 21 2008, 12:18 PM) [snapback]407935[/snapback]
Good damn bloody foriegners ruining our nation! Damn them all to hell I say.

I'm pretty sure that's what locals in Spain, France, Italy and more recently Romania, Bulgaria, etc say about the invasion of Brits moving in and buying up property forcing them out of their homes and onto the streets so that they have to move to the UK to make enough money to keep pace with house prices in the own country!

Sounds about as logical as some of the arguments on here.

The NHS has been a crumbling monolith for years - creaking under the strain. But it's 'easier' to blame someone else (this season it just happens to be Eastern Europeans who are the targets - racism disguised by the fact they are white Christians) All I can say is thank god I live in Belgium where although I pay significantly more tax than in the UK I can see a specialist within a week and not 6 months - but hey that's just me.

As for state-spongers, since Maggie we grown accustomed to people living on benefits. I don't have any numbers but I would guess that the total number of foriegn spongers is a small percentage compared to british spongers. State benefits should only be a safety net that let's people bounce back into work. But the argument is they are obviously stealing all the jobs as well. Yeah right, like you'd be happy to work as a fruit picker for sod all an hour and live with 20 other people in a two-up two-down.

I tried not to respond to this thread, but unfortunatley my rant finally broke through.

ScotinBelgie - an economic migrant

I don't recall anyone BLAMING Eastern Europeans for the historical inadequacy of the NHS, but they have put a significant extra burden on its resources. If stating that makes me a latent racist-so be it. I live here Robert, and I know all about the NHS.

Like several posters before you, you have (? deliberately) chosen to confuse a free labour market as evinced by the behaviour of most of the Poles in our country, with a mass offloading of other Europeans-effectively onto our benefits system.

I don't blame those people-I blame the clowns in government, but please don't imagine that the majority of Scots are happy with the situation, and I include in that Scots of all ethnic origins.
mortonjag 2008-02-21 12:31:05
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 21 2008, 12:23 PM) [snapback]407937[/snapback]
Only if you sing "Streets of London" with London switched for Glasgow the whole way along it.

It's kinda hard to drive and play my guitar at the same time! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-21 12:32:57
QUOTE(cmdc @ Feb 21 2008, 12:24 PM) [snapback]407938[/snapback]
On the 'we're a soft touch' subjject, a report by the OECD has placed Britain in the middle of the OECD countries accepting immigrants, with Luxembourg, Australia and Switzerland taking by far the highest proportion. In contrast, Britain is top ONLY in the table of Brits LEAVING for other countries...

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Oz is swimming with Romanians-I F*CKIN' like that! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Lies, damned lies and statistics.


....and your point was?
mortonjag 2008-02-21 12:35:27
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 21 2008, 12:31 PM) [snapback]407943[/snapback]
Could you explain that one to me? If the majority are coming here and working and paying NI and taxes how is it a burden?

Who suggested that? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-21 12:39:12
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Feb 21 2008, 12:35 PM) [snapback]407947[/snapback]
It will be refreshing walking to the ground without thinking I wonder what stupid idea that moron will have this week .
At least Dougie will still be making outrageous comments in his progrmme notes , so at least some normality will prevail.

I'm wondering what he will have made of the support at Dundee, which was outstanding. Will he state he's glad the fans paid attention to him-even if his diatribe was only directed at the 'home' fans?
mortonjag 2008-02-21 12:47:56
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 21 2008, 12:35 PM) [snapback]407948[/snapback]
I'd say you can. Get three or four like minded folks and stand at the back of the shed a good bit apart. Once you get there put one in charge and he decides the tunes. He'll shout to his deputy's what it's gonna be. They pass the message on to others in the shed. Head ultra counts down with his hand and everyone bursts into song at once.

I'd very surprised if this happened on Saturday coming or any Saturday for this matter.

I think the bugler should come back-if he can get past the stewards.

'Can I have a look in your bag Sir'?

'Sorry Sir, but you can't take that into the stadium'.

'But it's my bugle-can't you see that-I'm the Cappielow bugler, and I've come back to raise the spirits of the crowd'.

'That's what I mean Sir-we're here to do the opposite-now are you going to hand it over'?

Bugler sounds the 'Reveille' and Mr Rae appears ultra quick from a secret vantage point.

'Steward-let my bugler enter immediately'.

'Yes Mr Rae, and will there be anything else your Lord...I mean Sir'? rolleyes.gif

mortonjag 2008-02-21 13:07:48
QUOTE(cmdc @ Feb 21 2008, 01:05 PM) [snapback]407965[/snapback]
Not all immigrants are Romanian!

My point was simply that Britain is not necessarily the 'soft touch' compared to its international counterparts that it is often made out to be.

I know!

You went about it in a strange way though, by simply quoting global figures for immigration.
mortonjag 2008-02-21 13:08:38
QUOTE(cmdc @ Feb 21 2008, 01:05 PM) [snapback]407966[/snapback]
HMRC!

If HM stands for what I think it stands for-it's a guaranteed lie!
mortonjag 2008-02-21 13:11:02
QUOTE(Marc @ Feb 21 2008, 01:07 PM) [snapback]407968[/snapback]
Also in other news.. Jim McInally has left Morton rolleyes.gif

....and Douglas Rae has been spotted in Aulds again.
mortonjag 2008-02-21 13:14:28
QUOTE(Doddie @ Feb 21 2008, 01:07 PM) [snapback]407967[/snapback]
I'm sure he said he wouldn't be prepared to drop a level again, his contract is up at the summer and he is looking forward to getting out of there, is he their top goalscorer this season despite being on loan for the first half of the season?

I remember Deuchar was nominated as MOTM by radio Scotland after an SPL game a couple of months back. He was pure crap against us at Palmerston, and I've yet to be hugely impressed by him, though he does 'get about' defenders.
mortonjag 2008-02-21 13:15:52
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 21 2008, 01:14 PM) [snapback]407975[/snapback]
Well, DDFR is an auld timer.

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With an auld ticker?
mortonjag 2008-02-21 13:22:50
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Feb 21 2008, 01:18 PM) [snapback]407979[/snapback]
I think it is very much a matter concerning the paying fans. I wouldn't want any child of mine to go along on Saturday and look up to someone who drives drunk or is charged with race hate crimes. I suspect that McGuffie will get off with a rap on the knuckles as it's far easier to take the moral high ground with someone who's contract is about to expire.

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mortonjag 2008-02-21 15:24:38
QUOTE(ianton @ Feb 21 2008, 01:50 PM) [snapback]407990[/snapback]
i have had nothing but problems with tiscali over the last while.although cheap they are certainly rubbish when it comes to trying to create a service.for example some nights the speed drops dramatacly.its a waste of time phoning them as the call centre is in India,so trying to have a conversation is pretty poor.has anybody got any good service providers in the area?. the internet has been down for the last 12 hours.is it only tiscali?,or has anybody outwith tiscali had their internet cut off?.

PlusNet-tremendous service and good value for money.
mortonjag 2008-02-21 15:35:08
QUOTE(Jackie @ Feb 21 2008, 02:37 PM) [snapback]408012[/snapback]
http://www.sportinglife.co.uk/football/new...ual_125110.html

I was having a conversation with my Dad about him only a couple of dats ago, saying how he used to be in the papers all the time and that he hadn't grabbed any headlines of late. What does sectioning entail and what does this spell for Paul?

It simply means he has been admitted to hospital under a SECTION of the Mental Health Act for his own safety, and/or that of others. In Scotland the initial period of detention is 24 hours, and has to be renewed in hospital if they feel it necessary.

It doesn't really mean very much one way or the other-certainly not that Gazza has suddenly developed some bizarre mental illness-it's much more likely to be the result of the long term effect of alcohol abuse on his brain. Hopefully he will be in hospital for long enough to really get himself sorted out this time.
mortonjag 2008-02-21 15:42:24
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Feb 21 2008, 01:58 PM) [snapback]407999[/snapback]
Indeed, as posted on another thread:

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mortonjag 2008-02-21 15:44:48
QUOTE(CraigoTON @ Feb 21 2008, 02:07 PM) [snapback]408001[/snapback]
would love if that was possible.. however i dont think so sad.gif

Maybe we could get him on an emergency loan! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-21 15:45:46
QUOTE(ianton @ Feb 21 2008, 02:37 PM) [snapback]408011[/snapback]
0-3
2,200

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mortonjag 2008-02-21 16:01:43
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 21 2008, 03:32 PM) [snapback]408029[/snapback]
i guess we havent to judge murderers, rapists, peadophiles and serial killers then because the courts dealt with them?

all it took was one wrong turn and we'd have another Lee Hughes Situation, except this time with our Team's name dragged through the mud.

so forgive me for thinking this is my business.

SPOT ON

He wasn't just over the limit either. He's a relatively well known young man who took a decision which could have had fatal consequences for himself and others. If, in the privacy of his own home, he had chosen to get himself totally paralytic before shagging the budgie thinking it was his Auntie Jenny, that would be none of our business I guess, but as Rasta said, he's a professional footballer, and in the public eye.

So the boy made a mistake. The publicity and ban are probably punishment enough, and I certainly won't be holding this against him, but to suggest that it's 'none of our business' is arrant nonsense.
mortonjag 2008-02-21 16:07:14
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 21 2008, 03:39 PM) [snapback]408032[/snapback]
There are a few on here that are looking to be sectioned soon then rolleyes.gif

I've often thought that Sean, but I won't name names!
mortonjag 2008-02-22 06:33:25 ...and supreme Bawheid.


Speaking of public alarm at transfer of Carstairs patients to lower security units.



Mr Salmond told MSPs: "Any transfer of a restricted prisoner and resident at Carstairs requires ministerial approval. That is the guarantee of public safety that we have."

Very good Bawheid, and no doubt you will personally carry the can for the first gaffe! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-22 06:43:21
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 21 2008, 05:24 PM) [snapback]408095[/snapback]
f***ing paranoid or what?! i highlighted two parts of your post that i was taking umbrage with. it was not my intention for anyone to take it as a continuous f***ing narrative. anyway what's the problem with the 2 sentences being together? unlike you i wouldn't spam the board by quoting ALL of your s***e.

as for life experiences i have plenty. how do you know what another posters experiences are? when you're proven wrong on here you either ignore it or go off on a smokescreen tangent to hide the flaps that you talk. poor show.

Knickers in a twist again forza.

The highlighted part DID look like a continuous quote.

How do I know what others experiences are-I don't and have never claimed I do.

Oh and BTW you know f*** ALL about MY life experiences either! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-22 06:45:12
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Feb 21 2008, 05:27 PM) [snapback]408096[/snapback]
Achh you know me MJ never one to miss a step! I know people aren't specifically blaming immigration for the historical underfunding of the NHS and that you probablly better than most know the state it is really in. However, while you can argue that this influx may be the straw that will break the camal's back I do disagree that it is a significant reason for the shambles that is currently the NHS and therefore the impact it has on the level of care that is offered to the rest of the community.

Don't get me wrong - I know that significant economic migration as well as immigration does bring it's own problems. I didn't realize how many Flemish folk were Kosovan independance supporters until the weekend rolleyes.gif . And yes I did deliberately confuse the difference between positive and negative economic migration of Eastern Europeans. But that is a major part of the problem, we effectively see 'them' as dole-scrounging wastrels and a drain on our resources - just another part of the blame game - so the percieved impact is significantly greater than the actual impact.

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Interesting point-may well prove correct.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 06:51:08
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 21 2008, 10:28 PM) [snapback]408188[/snapback]
Well the way some posters on here go on you'd think they'd want a Pole / Romanian etc as part of their own family.

One would have thought you'd want to make them welcome and at least know how to say some basics like Good Day etc.

A lot of Brits expect folk abroad to speak English so why not make the effort and reverse the trend.

That's one of the things that irritates me-the dual morality. Nasty people like mortonjag who have a duble whammy of 'new immigrants' on their doorstep are labelled as racist when they complain.

Inverclyde hasn't yet been touched by the phenomenon! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-22 06:56:22
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 21 2008, 11:22 PM) [snapback]408216[/snapback]
Fine, lets just pull out of the EU then, seeing as we can't physically control EU migration, pull out of the common market, stand back and admire the dole queue lengthening and lengthening.
There is a point in what mortonjag says, in that really migration should be targeted to certain areas were the local system can cope, rather than areas which cannot.
Inverclyde, for example, desperately needs immigration to at least uphold its current poulation, whereas in certain parts of Glasgow immmigration may not be a good thing locally.
On a national scale however, I firmly believe immigration brings a net positive economic benefit to the country.

MY HERO

I've been in touch with British Rail, and they're organising 20 train loads for Monday morning-just enough time to clear out the West End.

Welcome to your new neighbours and thank you-thank you so much.

PS.....and please remember THEY are not to blame.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 07:08:17
QUOTE(CivicTypeR @ Feb 22 2008, 01:55 AM) [snapback]408239[/snapback]
Cant feel sorry for an overweight idiot who used to beat up his wife.

good riddance

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mortonjag 2008-02-22 07:10:53 Happy birthday children-- from Grandpa!


Enjoy! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-22 07:14:14
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 21 2008, 08:29 PM) [snapback]408142[/snapback]
The s***e that gets shouted is from Barbarossa who is just to the left of you, but you don't hear hear any shouts from pies from our lot, we're sick of looking at pies by the time we leave the Darroch, it's normally chips we want. tongue.gif

Shouting sh*te--I like that-change from spouting pish! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-22 07:18:41
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 21 2008, 10:32 PM) [snapback]408190[/snapback]
he's not a proffessional footballer, he's only there because the left side of the celtic bench is wonky and they use him as a kind of Paper-weight, but for benches.

Only when the manager rests his ego on the right side.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 07:22:22
QUOTE(Jackie @ Feb 21 2008, 05:59 PM) [snapback]408106[/snapback]
Madness that we had him on trial/training, and to the best of my knowledge, didn't do anything about him. Now the lads at Dundee and will probably get signed up.

I mean, it's not as if were overflowing with good goalkeepers. Leveins got a good eye for cheap players.

Let's hope we've turned the corner on 'trialist' fiasco with our new management. In recent times it has sometimes looked like the club thought the world owed it a living.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 07:24:28
QUOTE(stuart @ Feb 21 2008, 04:55 PM) [snapback]408078[/snapback]
Everyone makes mistakes and deserves a second chance. Hopefully he will use his influential position to warn others about the dangers of drink driving. I know it's no defence but someone I know who knows him was really shocked about this story as apparently he barely ever takes a drink.

Anyway, he done wrong, I am sure he realises this as by all accounts he is a decent enough person and I would like to see him do some anti drink-driving work in Inverclyde, maybe around Christmas or something.

Many murders have been committed by 'decent' people.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 07:31:56
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Feb 21 2008, 11:00 PM) [snapback]408210[/snapback]
There is a good point in there about people being hypocritical.
I bet some of the people who have 'condemned' him have at some point or another driven a car over the limit, whether caught or not.

That said, it doesn't make it any better and he should learn his lesson.

Not guilty-I've done many a crazy thing, but have never driven 'under the influence of alcohol'.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 07:34:22
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 22 2008, 02:27 AM) [snapback]408241[/snapback]
What's that all about? Calling Irons his bitch when he's just in the door. Fair enough if you don't agree with the appointment but to make claims like that without any actual knowledge of the situation (in fact, nothing has even happened yet to have any knowledge of) is out of order if you ask me.

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I think all Toby meant was that the little puppies have a new 'Mummy'!
mortonjag 2008-02-22 07:37:06 I think most of the disappointment is not with Khali himself-more that he was yet again the last minute 'window' signing, whom JM claimed he'd been after for ages.

I imagine he'll be a useful squad player.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 07:39:03
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Feb 22 2008, 07:33 AM) [snapback]408262[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-02-22 08:55:44
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 22 2008, 08:30 AM) [snapback]408270[/snapback]
Aye, very good. I'm sure ministers don't make these decisions without seeking expert advice. They don't persoanlly decide to let everyone out of Carstairs.

I know that-I just don't like his style. Any clown can use a rubber stamp after all!
mortonjag 2008-02-22 09:08:56
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Feb 22 2008, 08:41 AM) [snapback]408271[/snapback]
He did a stupid thing, was caught, and has already been judged and punished.

NEXT!

Not entirely-he's being punished for a year if you like.

The law really is an ass at times-somebody gets jailed for three years for knocking down a cyclist who deliberately BROKE the law and came through red lights, but there's still a dual morality about drink driving.

I won't personally be holding anything against Ryan McGuffie, but dictating to others that they have no right to 'have a go' at his anti-social behaviour is undemocratic.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 09:20:52
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Feb 22 2008, 09:15 AM) [snapback]408288[/snapback]
I like his style when he's placing bendy Wendy over his knee and giving her a damn good spanking, as he did yesterday, again.

What hope is there for Scottish Labour while they have this screeching mouth with legs for a leader?

On the point of the proposed Carstairs transfers, recipe for disaster, but apparently being done to avert some crazy European law which would allow patients/prisoners the opportunity to sue the Government for being locked up in a unit which is too secure, breaching their human rights. blink.gif

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Very apt use of the adjective there, and I agree.

BTW- I believe that 'screeching mouth with legs' should read 'screeching mouth with legs and big purse'.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 09:40:46
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Feb 22 2008, 07:51 AM) [snapback]408267[/snapback]
Not going off the topic here but see the wee wummin who sells the big issue ootside Iceland in the Port is she romanian????? and the man ootside Lidl? laugh.gif

I'm reliably informed that the expression 'wee wummin' is not PC. If you are referring to the female person of less than average height who looks a bit like a grumpy old man-aye she's almost certainly Romanian-they've virtually got a monopoly on the 'Big issue' for some reason, which is odd, 'cos they all seem to have homes as well!
mortonjag 2008-02-22 09:51:35
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Feb 22 2008, 09:40 AM) [snapback]408292[/snapback]
*sigh*

I guess McGuffie is a new boo boy target then ? Or do we just bitch on here ?

The guy was drinking and driving. A damn stupid thing to do. He was caught and he was dealt with. You'd think that this would be the end of the matter but noooooooo. What we REALLY need to do is go on about ifs and buts. Supporting our player now that it's over isn't an option.

What is it with the 'SIGH' oh righteous one. Are you preaching tolerance-if so tolerate the legitimate concerns of your fellow posters.

You talk of drinking and driving as 'a damn stupid thing to do'-it's not just that-it's potentially preconceived carnage of innocent road users.

If people are stupid enough, or arrogant enough to flout the law and risk the lives of their fellows (to say nothing of their own), it's very convenient just to be 'caught and dealt with' as you put it.

Others have correctly pointed out that it could just as easily have ended in tragedy, and our player might currently be awaiting a lengthy jail sentence and lifetime ban.

People who condone drink driving in however small measure are just as guilty as those who indulge.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 09:55:45
QUOTE(KingsTON @ Feb 22 2008, 09:40 AM) [snapback]408294[/snapback]
They're seemingly on again today at 10.30 - 12 , Battery again...

Have they all got the JM heart monitors fitted in case they go too fast?



, Jim McInally has been good for our Club. I have watched his training methods, and his support for the sports sciences which I found impressive; for example, the team train with heart monitors on from which the management can monitor the players performances while ensuring that no player over exerts himself.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 09:58:10
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 22 2008, 09:49 AM) [snapback]408295[/snapback]
I watched Wendy make her weekly gaff yesterday. She stood to question Salmond with the opening line about the SNP lead council in Aberdeen. Salmond suggested she should maybe ask Nicol Steven the question as it's a Lib-Dem lead council ! laugh.gif
How can she get fundemental questions wrong on a weekly basis ? It's even worse than amateurish. blink.gif

As for Salmond, a superb politician on top of his game. No surprise none of the opposition leaders can't even lay a glove on him tongue.gif

I wonder if he's ever been touched by the Sturgeon's gloves.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 10:13:02
QUOTE(Dom_Dom @ Feb 22 2008, 10:06 AM) [snapback]408301[/snapback]
Look, I know what can happen, but here's the thing. Nothing happened. So we can bitch and moan on here all we want and nothing will change, and that's my point.

I'm not condoning it. I'm only saying that now that he's been punished by a court of law, we should be getting behind the player now that he's been convicted. It IS up to the courts after all.

Fair enough, and I've already said it won't affect how I regard him as a footballer.

It's just that I understand the potential seriousness of the offence (which I'm sure you do too) and feel others are entitled to say their say, especially if their lives have been affected by drink driving.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 10:14:50
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 22 2008, 10:09 AM) [snapback]408302[/snapback]
That's your fantasy old boy laugh.gif

Frankly I'd rather fumble in Bendy's purse! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-22 10:24:32
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 22 2008, 10:18 AM) [snapback]408305[/snapback]
Naw ye wind'ny laugh.gif

Isn't that where she stuffs the 'munny'?
mortonjag 2008-02-22 11:09:36
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 22 2008, 10:49 AM) [snapback]408316[/snapback]
I wouldn't defend his views on faith schools for a start. He and I disagree fundamentally on that one.

To get back to the main subject, seems daft to me to be releasing nutters, including killers, just because some eejit in Brussels says they should get compensation if they are too securely held. Too secure? So what? Nevertheless, was the ministerial statement not to the effect that they would have a veto on the worst offenders? Sounds like a useful safety net to me.

It will be poetic justice if one of those 'nutters' escapes from a less secure unit, and kills one of those 'eejits'.

I would quite like that, though I suspect that makes me bad.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 11:12:58
QUOTE(KingsTON @ Feb 22 2008, 11:06 AM) [snapback]408322[/snapback]
Its on the Astroturf aye , no idea about heart monitors though haha.

Think Davie Irons wants them to show they've got heart without needing a monitor to do it

Is Mr Rae keeking oot his windae?
mortonjag 2008-02-22 11:23:23
QUOTE(dmc @ Feb 21 2008, 10:51 PM) [snapback]408202[/snapback]
By the way do any of you lot want any messages passed on to Davie or Deeks?? unsure.gif mellow.gif wink.gif

The monkey says to tell Mr Rae to stuff the job. At least he got a reply from E.Stirling.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 11:25:15
QUOTE(foxy @ Feb 22 2008, 11:07 AM) [snapback]408323[/snapback]
Scotrail kindly stopped the trains again today, no idea if it was for the full journey. Gourock to Glasgow but had to get the Mcgills bus which was packed. didnt help when 1 old lady didnt bother giving someone her spare seat until i asked her to move.
If it was any of us taking up 2 seats im sure she would be first to moan

What if it was a very, very, very fat old lady? tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-22 11:29:05
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 22 2008, 11:19 AM) [snapback]408327[/snapback]
It's a long way to the shop if you wanna sausage roll...

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Even longer if the shop's an ironmonger's.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 11:30:22
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Feb 22 2008, 11:26 AM) [snapback]408331[/snapback]
shoued have to pay twice bring in the fat tax lol

That's discrimination against greedy pigs obese people pedro. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-22 11:34:28
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 22 2008, 11:32 AM) [snapback]408338[/snapback]
It's a long way to the top if you play at Cappielow ??

the wrong?
mortonjag 2008-02-22 11:37:02
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Feb 22 2008, 11:32 AM) [snapback]408337[/snapback]
Would need to have some view, considering he lives about 3/4 miles away blink.gif

I meant the windae in the sweatshop sweet factory!
mortonjag 2008-02-22 11:40:06
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Feb 22 2008, 11:36 AM) [snapback]408343[/snapback]
Take up 2 seats pay 2 fairs whers the discrimination in that

Do anorexic people get for half price if they only fill half a seat?
mortonjag 2008-02-22 11:44:57
QUOTE(ianton @ Feb 22 2008, 11:39 AM) [snapback]408347[/snapback]
if not mentioned before on here,this is probably the reason he has been s***e for us up to now.maybe he can now get on with concentrating on playing with the form that made us sign him.what's done is done,now lets please move on.should be no more to be said on this thread.

Unless I'm mistaken, the offence occurred only a week or so back.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 12:46:42
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 22 2008, 11:59 AM) [snapback]408353[/snapback]
Well, mortonjag, one thing is for sure ...

It's a long way to the top if you manage at Cappielow !!!

Aye the toilet wall must be almost three metres high!
mortonjag 2008-02-22 12:48:54
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Feb 22 2008, 12:21 PM) [snapback]408358[/snapback]
it was a video shop up untll the early 90's
the Video shop on the corrner it is now flats

Aye but video shops did not exist before 1980
mortonjag 2008-02-22 12:56:12
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 22 2008, 11:52 AM) [snapback]408350[/snapback]
actually yes. mortonjag.

Some airlines are planning to weigh their passengers as well as their baggage.

Just using high oil prices to rip off more for fares - sorry, surcharges.

sad.gif sad.gif

That's interesting-will there be all sorts of exemptions for all sorts of people with all sorts of conditions excuses, and will they expect their G.P.s to provide wee letters free of charge as usual in their 24/7 surgeries?
mortonjag 2008-02-22 13:00:09
QUOTE(Capuan @ Feb 22 2008, 12:26 PM) [snapback]408361[/snapback]
There was an overhead line dewirement between Bishopton and St.James this morning due to high winds.

It is unlikely the trains will be running again today. Although there is a replacement bus service from Gourock/Wemyss Bay - Paisley.

Our cat once had to get that done-you have to give them pills.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 13:13:09
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 22 2008, 01:04 PM) [snapback]408377[/snapback]

Can just imagine our good Flight Ton having to 'weigh' the breasts of the lady passengers of ample proportions.


With big cheesy grin

'Now if you could just slip out of your bra, madam--and here we go........



Wey, wey wey wey'. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-22 13:17:35
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 22 2008, 01:06 PM) [snapback]408378[/snapback]
it only happened on the 10th of february, now if he can tell the future and knew it was going to happen and it was on his mind and thats why he was playing s***e then i can forgive him tongue.gif

Which was the day after the Clyde game. Perhaps the players felt they had something to celebrate in the impending resignation of JM, but still no reason to drive at the same time!
mortonjag 2008-02-22 13:20:34
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Feb 21 2008, 03:45 PM) [snapback]408035[/snapback]
Anyone on here play online?

What's your name on it?

Aye, ah canny resist thae weans games.

Ma name's Ebenezer Fudgemaker.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 14:39:25
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Feb 22 2008, 01:53 PM) [snapback]408396[/snapback]
Some people are never happy unless they are moaning about something.

They are known by some people as negativity boys!
mortonjag 2008-02-22 14:46:20
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Feb 22 2008, 02:03 PM) [snapback]408399[/snapback]
OK Mr Pedant. My point was that the court has imposed a punishment - it's not really for us to criticise McGuffie because we feel that hanging would be more appropriate - any criticism, as you suggest, should be of the legal system itself.

I'm sure the guy knows he's been a stupid arse, and I hope he learns his lesson.

To be clear, I have not attempted to "dictate" anything to anyone - I have suggested that the courts have already dealt with it and that, as far as the legal side of it goes, is that.

If you really want to continue to crucify the guy, after he has been punished by the law, please feel free! :unsure:

I don't want to crucify him, but so long as clowns keep pushing the 'so the guy made a wee mistake' stuff, I guess this thread will trundle on. The guy made a MONSTROUS mistake-some might even say a deliberately MONSTROUS mistake, and could easily have killed.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 14:50:43
QUOTE(Toby @ Feb 22 2008, 02:12 PM) [snapback]408408[/snapback]
Well why do you think Irons has been appointed? To look at the three main candidates, Irons certainly strikes me as the weakest personality amongst the three, I don't think there's any doubt about that.

Using the word bitch could perhaps be considered harsh, although I'd prefer to use the term exagerated, but in making this appointment, my reading of it is that Raemanov will be sitting back thinking he's pulled off a masterstroke because he'll still have significant influence in signings, team selection (or "advice for his manager" on team selection) and will still have access to the dressing room before games as Irons has proved himself already to be a yes man to a higher power in his previous role.

Feel free to correct me further down the line, but that's my prediction of how things'll turn out and i don't expect to be proven wrong.

Oh well Toby if he's a successful 'yes' man we'll all be happy.

What is it exactly you mean about his previous role?
mortonjag 2008-02-22 15:05:11
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Feb 22 2008, 02:11 PM) [snapback]408407[/snapback]
I have already seen this in action Newton.
Last year at Stanstead airport they made a gentleman (I will term him a big lump of a boy) go on the baggage scales in front of several hundred people and then promptly attempted to charge him double.
Argument ensued which I did not see the conclusion of but by the looks of his mother she would more than likely have been subject to the same conditions.

As long as they where used as ballast I have no problems.

What-one hanging down under each wing?
mortonjag 2008-02-22 15:18:36
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Feb 22 2008, 03:05 PM) [snapback]408434[/snapback]
1. I'm not suggesting that what he did was ok. Clearly it was not.
2. I agree you have the right to hold whatever point of view you currently have.
3. You state it was a mistake (which I'm not sure it was - I think it was an act of stupidity) - there are very few of us exempt from them.
4. What, exactly, do you want done about it - or are you just belly-aching?

What I want is for posters who are calling others 'sanctimonious' and words to that effect to have a think.

We all make mistakes, but there is an insidious suggestion from some that we also all include drink driving among them, and have no right to criticise just because we ain't been caught.


THAT is what I object to. Some of us are more responsible.

This messageboard is notorious for its fickleness, and I guess the very clowns who are belittling an extremely serious sin of COMMISSION, would be the ones campaigning hardest for a public execution if a drunk driver ran over their unattended carry outs.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 15:49:07
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 22 2008, 03:41 PM) [snapback]408451[/snapback]
that is drag - not ballast

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I thought drag was something different Newt-I suppose it depends on the relative weight of the aircraft and the bodies! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-22 15:52:51
QUOTE(pgmsc @ Feb 22 2008, 03:22 PM) [snapback]408443[/snapback]
With you Midton comes across as point scoring now

Question for Toby and the rest was Cowboy known as a yes man before he came

Do you men a 'yeth' man?
mortonjag 2008-02-22 15:57:25
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 22 2008, 03:32 PM) [snapback]408446[/snapback]
Being t-total is the way forward, I've not touched a drop for more than 5 months now. ohmy.gif
I've been to 3 hospitality days this season and not touched a drop of alcohol at any of them, it's an extremely cheap drinks bill with prices at 50p fer can of soft drink. wink.gif

50p for a can of juice-total rip off!
mortonjag 2008-02-22 15:59:36
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Feb 22 2008, 03:45 PM) [snapback]408454[/snapback]
Unattended carry-outs! What a suggestion.

I certainly didn't intend to imply he'd made a mistake - it was stupidity. But we all suffer from that sometimes, even if not that particular form.

On the rest of your post we can agree.

Although, I would think that those who feel themselves to be labelled "sanctimonious" should be well enough able to defend themselves, given the fickleness of this forum.

We all make mistakes!
mortonjag 2008-02-22 16:02:09 I couldn't give a f*ck to be honest, and I won't dream of commenting on anything the new management has done until 4.45 p.m. tomorrow.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 16:05:53 Whatever happened to the 'Skite' boys. They used to form a wee group at the Sinclair St end and shout 'SKITE' when the goalie was hitting the ball.

What was so funny was that they could never time it right, and the ball was always well away before the shout came out. They were still a rare laugh mind!
mortonjag 2008-02-22 16:08:27
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 22 2008, 04:02 PM) [snapback]408467[/snapback]
You would be hard pushed to buy a single can of juice from from any small store for under 60p never mind from a licenced bar.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


I buy in bulk from whoever's doing the best deals.

Anyway, will Shoogly not let you take in your own drink? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-22 16:15:02 Try disconnecting the router from the mains for at least a minute to make sure it resets properly.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 16:16:56
QUOTE(midTONs @ Feb 22 2008, 04:15 PM) [snapback]408481[/snapback]
Like wise but you cannot bring a bag of cans to the hospitality with you, Morrisons were doing 24 cans of Irn Bru for £3.50 last week.

FFS Jim-I hope it was DIET Irn Bru!!!!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-22 16:19:46
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 22 2008, 03:32 PM) [snapback]408445[/snapback]
Naw, who is the current "naked" table tennis champion

You sound excited!
mortonjag 2008-02-22 16:59:15
QUOTE(foobs the elder @ Feb 22 2008, 04:33 PM) [snapback]408486[/snapback]
Ye Gods the holier than thou Brigade
out in Force again

GET A LIFE

foobs cool.gif

SORRY?

This thread will keep running until the 'holier than holier than thou' brigade get a f*ckin' life foobs.

Wake up and smell the coffee.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 19:48:32 a big issue seller does not require to be homeless. maybe you should buy one sometime


I see smart arse-and are those poor souls 'at risk' of homelessness because the nasty indigenous Scots are about to drive them out? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Vendors

Becoming a Vendor

In order to sell the Big Issue, you must be homeless or at risk of homelessness.

When a prospective vendor comes to The Big Issue, they are asked to provide proof that they are homeless (e.g. receipts from any hostels that they have been staying in) or a letter of referral.



Oh and I have bought a copy now and again, and ended up wondering why the f*ck I bothered. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-22 19:50:43
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 22 2008, 05:41 PM) [snapback]408515[/snapback]
Overhead line problems - they'll have to use McGills. tongue.gif

They will not be fighting over empty seats-thats for sure.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 19:59:59
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 22 2008, 05:48 PM) [snapback]408521[/snapback]
yeah it's interesting that the church allows u to screw your missus when u have no intention of conceiving as long as you use the rhythm method. johnnies, they say, are a "barrier" method and therefore are bad. go figure.

Is that the same as playing Vatican Roulette?
mortonjag 2008-02-22 20:14:46 I have been in hospitality once, and though I enjoyed it, I felt it was overrated.

May have been partly to do with the fact that I was driving!
mortonjag 2008-02-22 20:29:03
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 22 2008, 07:43 PM) [snapback]408564[/snapback]
it's difficult these days, but congratulations! you've made it into the top ten most stupid things i've ever seen on this messageboard, and you've only been around for a few months. i'll keep an eye out for you; you have potential.

two of my friends have been done for drink-driving. if only i'd known they were equivalent to murderers i could've had a right good shunning at their expense.

Never to late to learn then. Only fate prevented the mishaps.

Drink driving is arguably a far more serious offence than carrying a knife.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 20:34:05
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Feb 22 2008, 08:29 PM) [snapback]408582[/snapback]
A percentage of them yes. biggrin.gif

But DDF may be wise not to do one of his cringe worthy speeches tomorrow or I will be the first to tell him where to go.

We are after all not worthy. wink.gif

Will he be able to resist the temptation, I wonder?

He was out on the pitch before the Dundee game-mind you those were the away fans whom he seems to imagine don't go to Cappielow.

I'd give odds of 2-5 on him making a public announcement.....and 500-1 against the Cowshed givin' it 'Dougie...Dougie'!

mortonjag 2008-02-22 20:37:06
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 22 2008, 08:20 PM) [snapback]408577[/snapback]
Ah..... but the rhythm method still leaves open the possibility of impregnation, should God so wish. laugh.gif

Daft I know, but that's the 'logic'. I'm sure if He was so determined God could quite easily burst a johnny. Piece of pish compared to a lot of other stuff He did in the bible.

Wouldn't be the first time either! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-22 20:44:45
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 22 2008, 08:38 PM) [snapback]408588[/snapback]
Ach can you just not indulge auld Dougie FFS. rolleyes.gif

Life's too short, and if an old man talking s***e on a football pitch angers you so much then maybe you should take a look at yourself. wink.gif

I think you may have a point CHC-what's wrong with old men talking sh*te on football pitches-it can be thoroughly entertaining if you're into farce in a big way.


Let's have more old men talking sh*te on football pitches I say, wondering which child poster will first attempt to turn that into an insult on my person! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-22 20:47:55
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 22 2008, 08:39 PM) [snapback]408589[/snapback]
.... as is God's will laugh.gif

I always had this vision of some religious fanatic roaming the Durex factory with a pin.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 20:49:59
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 22 2008, 08:46 PM) [snapback]408591[/snapback]
laugh.gif

Aye, you and Dougie have a lot more in common than you think. tongue.gif

I'm well aware of that-or is that a contradiction? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-22 21:32:54
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 22 2008, 08:52 PM) [snapback]408595[/snapback]
Not going to get involved in this debate, as i will undoubtedly get called a racist.

But here is a wee link to a story that was first published in the Sunday Herald a few months ago, it is bloody sickening and terrifying to say the very least:

http://fighthumantraffickingnews.blogspot....streets-of.html

Police are concerned that allegations could ramp up racial tensions in an area already under inter-ethnic strain. Many locals in Govanhill from the Pakistani and white communities are openly racist about Roma people.

That is exactly what I have been pointing out-ALL established Scottish communities in Glasgow, at least, resent what's going on, but the authorities don't want to know, and it's no comfort to read the uninformed and wishy washy bleatings of the forum's 'do gooders'.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 21:37:56 Gentlemen, there is little credit due to Bawheid-bendy Wendy, like most Labour politicians in Scottish history has the wit of a mensa mouse.

Come to think of it Salmond is just a big leering poosy.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 21:39:35
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 22 2008, 09:38 PM) [snapback]408610[/snapback]
I've not opened it yet cos I'm in a really good mood these days, and I'm worried this thread will just contain the usual xenophobic and borderline racist nonsense taken straight from the tabloids as 'fact' which will undoubtedly make me angry and generally put me in a downer.

Is it safe to open or am I right?

My advice is that you stay safely cocooned in your ivory tower.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 21:53:28
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 22 2008, 09:41 PM) [snapback]408614[/snapback]
Not an Ivory Tower at all Mortonjag, as I think you know I love the cut and thrust of a lively debate. tongue.gif

I just prefer it when those involved don't get their points of reference from The Sun or The Daily Mail, that's all.

Well forgetting Mr Bam who is just pushing his own ideology, many are I guess.

It so happens that mortonjag speaks from first hand experience-the natives here are restless-the whole multicultural mix, the virtues of which Mr Bam extols, is up in arms. Scots of all ethnic origins who see this unbridled immigration at first hand are pretty brassed off-none more than the Asian communities of Govanhill and surrounding areas.

Multicultural racism, multilingual xenophobia-call it what you will-it exists.

As I said in the other thread, if you admire the dumping process, and wish to promote it, please ask for delivery to your home address.

As I also said-I don't BLAME those immigrants-nobody turns down a free lunch ticket.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 21:56:28
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 22 2008, 09:45 PM) [snapback]408616[/snapback]
Frankly Colkitto, that's irrelevant sexist nonsense.

I couldn't give a f*** if she had a humphy back and one eye, that's not the issue, and you cheapen yourself and your argument by bringing her appearance into it.

...even if she is some ugly bitch.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 22:06:53
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 22 2008, 09:59 PM) [snapback]408629[/snapback]
picking fights with the new posters already eh? you jealous you're no longer considered a new poster? tongue.gif

He's just heard a rumour that Tontaster's been told by Tontastic to change his name to Wake's Walloper.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 22:16:49
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 22 2008, 10:03 PM) [snapback]408630[/snapback]
You see that's my whole point. You're suggesting that immigration is on the whole a drain on society, which has been proven by study after study to be untrue. Immigration boosts the economy, that's a fact. Sorry if it's an inconvenient fact, but it's one nevertheless.

Unqualified assertions like those ARE the stuff of the tabloids.

Let me tell you this young man laugh.gif the selective and concentrated immigration which has so many Glaswegians 'up in arms' is indisputably a negative economic factor.

...so I agree with your generalisation, and ask you to have the grace to accept the wisdom of the grass roots!

As for fresh faced youths in their Inverclyde towers of tusk-well put quite simply


THEY HAVEN'T A F*CKIN CLUE.

..and as to capricious copulators out East somewhere-NUFF SAID.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 22:21:35
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 22 2008, 10:18 PM) [snapback]408639[/snapback]
I forgive you all that s***e simply because you called me 'young man'. tongue.gif

Cheers auld yin. wink.gif



Oh I imagine I'm old enough to be your father



...oh my GOD... surely NOT!!!!! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-22 22:31:15
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 22 2008, 10:07 PM) [snapback]408634[/snapback]
Only able to do one job in the entire country?
Jeezo that's not's very flexible.
Now the Romanian has the exact same level, impresses at both application and interview after arriving a week earlier, and is willing to work his erse off for a far lower wage?
Then he/she/he-she is clearly the best suited person for the job.
Looks like these hard-working parents will have to find some other job somewhere in the country, mebbe fighting it out to the death in a kind of "Employment Deathmatch".
Actually, it is a hypothetical as, well, there aren't any further education fees for them to be paying, no?
And if they're unemployed, the graduate endowment is means-tested, no?
If you wish to have a free-market economy and wish to allow people freedom of movement (which the West only campaigned for for the last 60 years) then you're going to have to face the consequences of migration.
Build a bridge and get over it.

Well sonny, I've done my stint, and that included looking after folk of all ethnicities without prejudice.

I'm lucky-I've earned my wee pension, and I don't have to compete with cheap foreign labour, but Willow makes a valid point, and your like for like analogy is a joke. They get the jobs because they are willing to work for less-they are breaking no rules-agreed-but that doesn't mean our locals are wrong to be upset. That's talking about free movement of labour.

Indiscriminate dumping is different. You don't seem to have any views on that, or do you imagine it's not happening? Just wait till those twenty train loads arrive on Monday.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 22:37:55
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 22 2008, 10:25 PM) [snapback]408642[/snapback]
mortonjag, you're old enough to be my grandfather, if not in age then in outlook. tongue.gif

Indeed your views are frequently puerile, but time is on your side!
mortonjag 2008-02-22 22:45:06
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 22 2008, 10:41 PM) [snapback]408655[/snapback]
Thank God I'm going to Glasgow on Monday tongue.gif

How's the evacuation of the West End progressing Willow-has Shoogly been moved into the temporary caravan yet?
mortonjag 2008-02-22 22:47:44
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 22 2008, 10:34 PM) [snapback]408650[/snapback]
Someone once stole my imaginary friend's identity.

...and you fell in love and lived happily ever after?
mortonjag 2008-02-22 22:49:45
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 22 2008, 10:46 PM) [snapback]408658[/snapback]
Indeed, I'll still be talking pish long after you're pushing up the daisies. tongue.gif

...no need to lower the tone-and we call them pansies over here.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 22:51:13
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Feb 22 2008, 10:48 PM) [snapback]408660[/snapback]
Were people not having the same debate 40+ years ago about Pakistani and Indian migrants?
They'll be pleased they have finally moved off the bottom of the foodchain and are seen as decent hard working scottish citizens....

in 1960 my post would have probably read:

Were people not having the same debate 140+ (190 years from 2008) years ago about Irish catholic migrants?
They'll be pleased they have finally moved off the bottom of the foodchain and are seen as decent hard working scottish citizens....

NO
mortonjag 2008-02-22 22:52:35
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 22 2008, 10:51 PM) [snapback]408666[/snapback]
Homophobe! mad.gif

You misunderstand-I think pansies are beautiful.
mortonjag 2008-02-22 22:56:35
QUOTE(Oozie @ Feb 22 2008, 10:50 PM) [snapback]408664[/snapback]
I've been told through a good source that a celeb will be in Morton Hospitality tomorrow.
I don't wanna spoil your surprise - you'll find out tomorrow, not sure what lounge he's in.

He's there every time Oozie-wearing the same suit, tie, and smile!
mortonjag 2008-02-22 22:58:32
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 22 2008, 10:54 PM) [snapback]408670[/snapback]
Gaylord! mad.gif

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Anyway I'm off to bed with the Monkey-and YES-he is male.

Goodnight and God bless.
mortonjag 2008-02-23 07:40:52
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 22 2008, 11:55 PM) [snapback]408703[/snapback]
jesus, this thread's almost as predictable as the original. not quite as disturbing but i suppose that's only a matter of time.

Life's archetypal pragmatist claims to be 'disturbed'! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-23 07:44:39
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 22 2008, 11:04 PM) [snapback]408677[/snapback]
Well Loyal lass nipped out for a celebratory drink with PrincessTON and unknown to her I took advantage and moved her out her house there and then.

PrincessTon will be spending her 18th and last Birthday in her current dwellings as she's next to go.

That Edwards character is causing some problems but when he's in hospitality tomorrow I plan on sending the Sheriff Officers to take his place as well.

Forza was hooked out tongue.gif
Shoogly was no problem but I discovered some JM material in the house he evacuated.
Very disturbing stuff about the plan to keep Irons & Collins till the summer of 2009 and then bring in someone with the initials JM biggrin.gif
All in all it's going well but the residents of No.1 South Street are having a Lay Down Protest ohmy.gif

Seems to be going quite well then. They're all rather excited up here-never been to the seaside except when it's been 'Baltic'.
mortonjag 2008-02-23 07:49:47
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 23 2008, 12:55 AM) [snapback]408742[/snapback]
u call me smart arse purely cos i'm smarter than you. i take that as a compliment. thankyou.

once again you are completely wrong. there are many big issue sellers who have a house and the editor of the publication is aware of this and encourages it.

would you be happier if big issue sellers crawled out of a gutter to sell the mag then crawled back into the ditch?

talking of burdens to society, your lot are vastly over paid. but u can fanny about on a fat tax- payer paid pension and attempt to take the c*** out of other posters on here.

I see-so it IS as corrupt as I always suspected, and YOU condone it!

I'm not sure what you mean by 'my lot' and 'my fat tax payer paid pension'.

That sort of comment doesn't even annoy me forza-I just pity your total ignorance of the subject in general, and my circumstances in particular.

I didn't think you had a chip on your shoulder-now I.m beginning to wonder.
mortonjag 2008-02-23 07:51:28
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 23 2008, 01:46 AM) [snapback]408800[/snapback]
he'll give you a pish poor comeback mathie. you'd be as well not reading it.

s***! i was supposed to keep away from this thread but it's hard to ignore the diarrhea that's been splattered over the walls of the forum

Then try some codeine phosphate.
mortonjag 2008-02-23 08:06:10
QUOTE(capitanus @ Feb 23 2008, 02:30 AM) [snapback]408850[/snapback]
CrawfordJag, I'll have a quid on that, it'll see my overdraft sorted for this month.

You just know that it will happen.

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That would not surprise me, but the odds stand!
mortonjag 2008-02-23 08:14:35
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 23 2008, 12:44 AM) [snapback]408732[/snapback]
i take it circumstances don't count?

my parents live on a street in greenock where no children can play outside because people of all backgrounds, incomes and taste roar up it at 50+ miles an hour as there are no give way signs to slow them down*. is that comparable to someone who drives 300 metres down the road in a highland village at 3am after having 3 glasses of wine?

*or else because they're utter ignorant arseholes.

i know who is the bigger danger, but don't let me burst your stupid wee bubble of sanctimonious, yes sanctimous, comfort.

t***.

...and totally against the odds knocks down and kills an old crofter who sleep walked out of his Butt and Ben. Maybe it was three large glasses of 14% ABV, he had previously been teetotal, and aye, he was well under the influence.

In this day and age anybody who condones drinking and driving (in whatever measure and circumstances) is a dangerous anti-social fool.

Same applies to those who condone driving under the influence of drugs.
mortonjag 2008-02-23 08:23:19
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Feb 23 2008, 02:02 AM) [snapback]408821[/snapback]
The guy did wrong there is no doubt of that. No one here is condoning what he has done and rightly so he has been punished in a court of law.

He now has to face living with the knowledge that he could have seriously injured if not killed not only himself but someone else. The guy wasn't and still isn't walking about with thoughts in his head of intentionally killing someone. It has been said that he doesn't normally drink and apparently he had only a couple of drinks so before anyone says it, yes, if drinking it is better not to drive no matter how much you intend to or have consumed.

MJ, with you being a doctor you will be more than aware of the effects of alcohol differ from person to person dependent on many factors such as male/female, weight, metabolism, when they last ate.

So take into account : -
  • He doesn't normally drink (not really an excuse)
  • He only had a couple (again, still too many)
  • We don't know what he drank. For all we know it was 2 1/2 pints of shandy.


So, yes, I think we can say it was a mistake albiet a massive mistake of judgement on his part. If the law stated you should not drink and drive at all I by all means we should sacrifice him to the gods in the WDE after all, we are out of sacrificial goats and as we live in Greenock there most certainly are not any virgins.

3000-3500 people a year are killed by drink driving which is apparently 1 out of every 7 fatal accidents involving a car which means that the other 6 are being caused by : -

People driving when using a mobile phone/eating/smoking etc anything that distracts them from the task in hand. How many of you have done one of those ?

Speeding. How many of you drivers out there have points on your license for this ?
Driving while tired. How many of you have done this ?

Accidents. How many of you have been involved in an accindent you were responsible for ?

General stupidity. Anyone suffer from this ?

If you fall into anyone of those categories you are also in real danger of killing someone so should we be handing out bans and jail sentences to people who are caught doing any of the above also ?

I think what I am getting at here is that yes the boy has done wrong but as a driver myself I know I am willing to hold my hands up to doing a few of those things so I will not judge him simply based on this matter. I think most people will have a relation, friend, friend of a friend who we all know to be decent people but who have been caught drink driving whether it be not long after they have consumed the alcohol or the following day thinking they were fine.

PS : How many of my mg of alchohol per 100ml of breath should we restrict users of this forum to before allowing them access to be in control of a keyboard ?

PPS: How many units of alcohol in a home measure ?

It's very clear that some people are more able to control a motor vehicle after-say- four pints of lager- than others may be after only one, and that is the VERY REASON why it has to be zero tolerance IMO. Otherwise peope ARE tempted to gamble on 'not being over the limit'.

I believe my analogy with carrying a knife holds-do it and you'll end up in jail, even if you were only going to peel yer Grannies tatties.

As in Sweden, and other more civilised countries, people found in charge of a motor vehicle with alcohol in the bloodstream should be banned.

Draconian-YES-and it might just save the life of one of your loved ones.
mortonjag 2008-02-23 08:28:00
QUOTE(Toby @ Feb 23 2008, 03:18 AM) [snapback]408886[/snapback]
He has already been proven as Wadsworth's yes man in his previous role.
Jim, you're the guy that started a thread to start a "Say No To Duffy" campaign. I've never said I won't give Irons a chance, he'll get my full support from the start, just like McInally did. However, if and when things go wrong, I will criticise. I've expressed reservations about the appointment, obviously Jona's not happy about me referring to Irons as Raemanov's "bitch", but in my opinion that is exactly what he wants him to be. He's a control freak by nature and by appointing weak personalities he has been allowed to exercise more control than he should, to the detriment of the

team. And while I'll say I'll be quick to criticise, if Irons turns out to be a success, I'll also be quick to step down and from my soap box and congratulate him. As I did with McInally incidently.
Cowboy was actually my choice at the time, and back then I was more "happy clapper" than "boo boy", so whoever was appointed I'd look at things with rose tinted glasses the way your PieHutt's and Scott Gillans do now. And no, I wouldn't consider him to be a yes man, but I would never expect to see somone of his ilk ever appointed by Raemanov again.
A couple of things here. You, probably more than most know most of my opinions on McInally with the TTG campaign. One of my major problems with him was that he allowed Raemanov to dictate things to him. It would appear to me (and the vast majority of onlookers at the Gretna situation) that Irons did the exact same thing. A manager (a "gaffer", a "boss") that allows himself to be dictated to by those above him loses a great deal of credibility if he's not prepared to stand up for himself. McInally wasn't prepared to do that, what evidence is there that Irons would? Very little in my eyes going by the formbook.

I note also your caricature reference? Really don't know what you expect me to say. "Yes, everything's great, I think this will be a brilliant appointment", when clearly I don't? I might come across as someone looking to stir up trouble in the nice cosy little tea party but I'm not going to stand back and say what folk want to hear just because it fits in with the party line.

So, now onto the brightside. Irons is reputed to be an excellent coach, so was McInally, doesn't make him a good manager; training has been a vast improvement, this always happens when a new manager comes in, as folk start to concern themselves with starting places, contracts etc.; he was the man behind Gretna's rise up the leagues, if memory serves me correct, while things were shakey when Alexander went on the panel, once he took the top job at Gretna, things really went tits up and they nearly blew it.

In my first post (Yes, the one I described Irons as Raemanov's bitch), I stated that I will give Irons my full support initailly. However, not to consider the points I've made would be to bury your head in the sand.

We don't have to agree on everything, but every point I have made about this appointment is relevant, whether you think it is nit-picking, s***-stirring, attention-seeking or whatever.




In the sense that Wadsworth was his boss, and is notoriously a ruthless tyrant, I suspect Irons may have had no choice but to accept certain things. That doesn't make him a 'Yes Man' in my book, though you maybe can give more detail to illustrate your point.

One of the reasons you're getting a hard time Toby, is that you've chosen to pass judgement before the fact. You clearly have sincere and serious reservations about Irons' ability to take full charge, and I sincerely hope you are wrong.

One thing IS for sure, Mr Rae WILL still be expecting to get his own way.

An interesting couple of months lie ahead.
mortonjag 2008-02-23 08:59:07 It depends what you want from a place. Dunoon has just about everything you could want, albeit in small measure, and has the additional beauty of the surrounding Cowal Peninsula. Property prices have caught up in the last two or three years but are still quite competitive. The cost of commuting has to be taken on board-it ain't cheap, and is time consuming, and sometimes psychologically draining. Local education standards are above the national average, and crime is relatively uncommon, though there is a 'hard core' of neddery as in every Scottish provincial town. The pace of life is far from rural, but not nearly as frenetic as in the 'big smoke'.

Oh and the local traffic warden is a c*nt from Hell!
mortonjag 2008-02-23 10:10:29
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Feb 23 2008, 09:20 AM) [snapback]408958[/snapback]
I can't believe we didn't go for Duffy. He's the outstanding candidate. I wouldn't have minded a Duffy/Collins team. Irons was a weird one, without the Ton connection with Collins, it woudn't have happened?

Apparently Jim Duffy was miffed and stated that at his interview he felt that Rae had already made up his mind he wanted Irons/Deeks, and was annoyed.

I don't see Irons as being any more experienced than McINally, indeed probably less experienced!!!

And I am worried about their lack of loyalty...Collins left us for the money when the going got tough, to our rivals! Him and Irons undermine Alexander and take over his team. Then when the broon stuff inevitably hits the fan at Gretna, they are out of their like a shot.

They are a bit mercenary, if you ask me. I'm also worried about the ethics of taking Brooks Mileson's management team while he's dying in his sickbed!?!?!??

Mad decision, but i hope they do well.



I can assure you that it's not Irons and Collins who are guilty of unethical behaviour. So far as I can gather Mr Mileson has been very ill, but at no time has there been an official announcement that he's dying.

Collins, for example, had no contract at Gretna, and ended up not even being paid wages he was owed. I don't regard that as a very 'ethical' way to run a business.
mortonjag 2008-02-23 10:15:47
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Feb 23 2008, 09:19 AM) [snapback]408957[/snapback]
"That (McInally's resignation] vexed me," explained Rae, a businessman who has made his personal fortune in confectionery after starting out as an agent in 1959. "We had a great relationship for three-and-a-half years here, never had a disagreement or an argument and Jim was perfect to work with.
thats one of the reason why he was never going to succeed at the club

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The story of the last three years in one sentence.


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mortonjag 2008-02-23 10:21:07
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Feb 23 2008, 09:28 AM) [snapback]408963[/snapback]

Talk about putting the boot in!
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mortonjag 2008-02-23 10:25:47 Happy birthday Standman!






































Forza, son, I just realised I was already making contributions towards that pension before you were born!

Anyway-have a good one! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-23 10:26:55
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Feb 23 2008, 10:21 AM) [snapback]408988[/snapback]
Putting the boot into the boot. Get it up her! smile.gif

After you!
mortonjag 2008-02-23 10:38:45
QUOTE(stuart @ Feb 23 2008, 09:04 AM) [snapback]408952[/snapback]
Harsh words about the traffic warden, I think he is an ok guy but sometimes the way he speaks to you isn't too nice. The local paper did "a day with the traffic warden" type feature to try and get people onside with him actually.

The commute to and from Glasgow isn't that bad. Getting on the ferry at 10 to the hour sees you in Glasgow at o clock in the next hour (1 hour 10 mins journey) and it's about £15 a week for passenger travel on the boat. Lovely way to start the day in the summer months, reading the papers on the ferry, nightmare in Winter.

Nope!

If you've been in the town recently, you'll know that as you come along the one way system from the pier, there is parking on the right hand side just after Ferry Brae. I parked just outside the autoteller, and had hardly got my card in when I saw that arsehole about to 'pounce'.

I asked him what I was doing wrong, and he said 'You're parked in a disabled bay'. There had indeed been lines and writing (which I had not been aware of) but they had been rubbed off by traffic, and were so faint he had to point them out to me-but he wouldn't let go.

I tried to be polite, but he was lovin' it-so I pulled out my digital camera-took a photo of the virtually non existent lines, and said, 'Book me if you like, and I'll see you in court'. He then backed off, but not at all graciously. My brother, who lives in Dunoon, told me that there has been some newspaper feature in which he was described as the 'most hated traffic warden in Scotland'.
mortonjag 2008-02-23 10:46:45
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 23 2008, 10:37 AM) [snapback]408998[/snapback]
The jag loves the sloppy seconds ohmy.gif

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Actually I wonder if entry would be possible-I've heard on some kind of authority that Ms Sheridan and Bendy Wendy describe their private parts as 'safe deposit boxes'.
mortonjag 2008-02-23 10:50:12
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 23 2008, 10:44 AM) [snapback]409003[/snapback]
Whereabouts in Innellan, btw, down the front or up the back?

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If you're asking where Inellan is- it's a separate village situated further down the peninsula in the direction of Toward Point.
mortonjag 2008-02-23 10:55:04
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 23 2008, 10:52 AM) [snapback]409009[/snapback]
I'm asking the question that I asked, read it again.

I have read it again-and I did suspect you were NOT asking of its whereabouts, but I don't understand your question in isolation! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-23 10:57:11
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 23 2008, 10:53 AM) [snapback]409010[/snapback]
What authority would that be? The monkey been doing the rounds? wink.gif

One of the Monkey's uncles works at the Scottish Office! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-23 10:59:28
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 23 2008, 10:56 AM) [snapback]409013[/snapback]
Unlucky.

Hmm-


Whereabouts in Sandbank btw, down the front or up the back?
mortonjag 2008-02-23 11:32:10
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 23 2008, 11:20 AM) [snapback]409020[/snapback]
Ooops. laugh.gif

Excuse my ignorance, I didn't have the benefit of a good bead-rattling education like yourself. tongue.gif

I'm sure He could part the Sea of Galilee though, if He wanted to.

That was the one he walked on-before they put holes in his feet mind you!
mortonjag 2008-02-23 11:34:09
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 23 2008, 11:30 AM) [snapback]409026[/snapback]
Could you two do your homo-erotic flirting elsewhere, you're putting me off my Corn Flakes.

Try oat bran flakes-they're much better for your heart!
mortonjag 2008-02-23 11:41:22
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Feb 23 2008, 10:59 AM) [snapback]409015[/snapback]
I don't condone drink driving and no one should. It is not, however, for us to punish the guy further. The courts have dealt out justice in this case and he will suffer for the consequences of his actions in major inconvenience through not having the use of a car for a year, �500 down the drain and then having enormous insurance premiums when he does get his licence back. In addition he has to live with the shame of it. Look at the condemnation on this thread!

As I say, the guy did wrong and has been punished for it so there is no need to be hounding him further for this.

If he doesn't up his game a bit though, that could be different!

I agree-he has been, and is being punished for a very serious offence. Those who have by comment suggested that he 'just made a wee mistake' need a bit of education.
mortonjag 2008-02-23 13:15:46
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 23 2008, 12:09 PM) [snapback]409048[/snapback]
good article that. nice one dougie smile.gif

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mortonjag 2008-02-23 13:18:02
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Feb 23 2008, 12:25 PM) [snapback]409054[/snapback]
its brooks mileson ohmy.gif

...signing copies of his new book 'Only Kiddin'. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-23 13:26:56
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Feb 23 2008, 12:12 PM) [snapback]409050[/snapback]
My Ideology? Fcuk help us all if dislike of racists is only to be found in my ideology.
Plenty of the descendants of immigrants on my street, including the inhabitants of my ain hoose. I also teach the children of immigrants.
Germans, I always find them unfailingly polite and pleasant people.
Nope, I have a healthy distate for racists and crypto fascists, whether they read Der Sturmer, the Daily Mail or Daily Express.

I wasn't talking about racism Mr Bam-merely that you were ignoring the tabloids, but lumping the current influx along with all the previous lots, when IMVHO there are salient differences.

Moreover I pointed out that the multiculturalism which you commend seems UNITED--at least where I live- if not two or three miles south, in its condemnation of current immigration policy.
mortonjag 2008-02-23 13:34:09
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 23 2008, 12:05 PM) [snapback]409047[/snapback]
yes , that's right , the big issue is corrupt.

Your observations just proved it-I've always known that selling 'The Issue' was a paradise for chancers, though there are always the decent and genuinely homeless too.

Will you still be hanging up your stocking this Christmas?
mortonjag 2008-02-23 13:43:51
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 23 2008, 01:21 PM) [snapback]409061[/snapback]
i thought you said driving under the influence of dogs. which IMO is an even worse crime.

...of which professional footballers are often guilty too! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-24 09:48:45
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Feb 23 2008, 07:25 PM) [snapback]409268[/snapback]
PLease tell me where I have stood up for multiculturalism. unsure.gif blink.gif

Anti-racism is not the same as multiculturalism.

Of course its not but you always seem to be mentioning in glowing terms the rich ethnic mix in which you live and move and have your being.

Mind you most Glaswegians acknowledge its inherent plasticity-the Mearns is Glasgow's capital of moneyculturalism.

Goodness, my neo yiddish ex taig daughter in law and hun son have moved digs just to get wee Eck onto the springboard for decent schooling. I suspect Mr Bam may have retired mind you, or will you be soldiering on for more than six years yet good Sir?
mortonjag 2008-02-24 09:57:40
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 23 2008, 01:47 PM) [snapback]409074[/snapback]
i actually find that post pretty offensive. i've known people who sold the big issue in the past. it has nothing to do with chancers. if you don't know the facts don't post s***e.

There are 'hunners' of chancers selling the Big Issue-it's a well known fact. It's a pity that some folk are so squeamish that they are offended every time they are told some home truths-and the same phenomenon applies to the substance of this thread.

Now before you embark on one of your usual-'it's OK for you- you overpaid b*****d' stuff, let me YET AGAIN tell you that you know f*ck all about my circumstances-only what you want to believe.

For starters-I know what it's like to be homeless, jobless, and skint. If you've been there too you have my sympathy.
mortonjag 2008-02-24 10:03:27
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Feb 23 2008, 08:36 PM) [snapback]409377[/snapback]
Not even with Se65an's

I'm disappointed gash-it would be a good chance to 'road test' the new argon boosted turbo pump!
mortonjag 2008-02-24 10:05:01
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 23 2008, 09:43 PM) [snapback]409472[/snapback]
Not defending Alexander here but she accepted a donation of 900 odd quid and even Jim Sillars says she should receive an apology over the allegations. Mr. Salmond, the 'best ever', on the other hand completely ignores local democracy to further the financial interests of a billionaire US businessman. People in glass houses.

Jim Sillars-is he some sort of divine arbiter or just another old politician?
mortonjag 2008-02-24 10:06:18
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Feb 23 2008, 10:34 PM) [snapback]409522[/snapback]
If they pursued,murderers,paedophiles and rapists as tenaciously as they have the Sheridans,this country would be a safer place to live. Talk about witch hunt. Why are they so afraid of Tommy Sheridan

Because he's vermin LL-simple as that.
mortonjag 2008-02-24 10:11:16
QUOTE(nach0king @ Feb 23 2008, 02:00 PM) [snapback]409081[/snapback]
The back is not huge - a couple of streets (one of them quite long) near the golf course.

My grandparents on my dad's side lived in Innellan in their dotage, down on the waterfront, so I was over there quite a lot for what I can only term as holidays.

A safe place to bring up kids if you're that way inclined, and being but a road and a metal railing away from rockpools and so on (at low tide) was pretty cool as a sprog, but deathly, deathly boring when you're a few years older, and if you don't drive you're kinda f***ed.

All the obvious stuff from a fairly isolated village, really. Friendly people, though, at least back then.

Did you ever come across a Frances Mary Cameron who lived in the big house 'Cluniter' at Bullwood?
mortonjag 2008-02-24 10:16:43 Many happy returns to the two little boys, and also to our Canadian member who's a wee bit older!
mortonjag 2008-02-24 10:27:59 I don't know if Jenkins was struggling, but if he was, he shouldn't have been risked. Irons and Collins seem to be pleasing most folk so far, and I don't suppose they can be blamed for trusting FIT 'old boys' during the settling in process, but St Johnstone won the midfield yesterday-and won the game.
mortonjag 2008-02-24 10:36:21
QUOTE(Davy B Ton @ Feb 24 2008, 12:07 AM) [snapback]409574[/snapback]
McGregor was mince when he came on today. No chance would he get a game if I was in charge after that display.

Thought Morton were decent in the first half. Was also impressed with our set pieces. For once we actually threatened to score at corners and free kicks!!!

Second half was back to the old ways and I don't have any problems with the score.

We got beat, but at least we got our moneys worth.

I thought donkeys got in free!
mortonjag 2008-02-24 10:40:33 Onward and upward after this surely. The Saints beat Dundee last week, and they've just humped Stirling. Clyde succumbed to Dunfermline at home. We've not lost any ground. With a wee bit of luck we could even have snatched a point yesterday.

Heavens-we may even go on an undefeated run till the end of the season. Stranger things have happened.
mortonjag 2008-02-24 10:42:01 Transmogrification
mortonjag 2008-02-24 10:46:11
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 23 2008, 09:23 PM) [snapback]409433[/snapback]
He is the perfect example of the failure of McInally in the transfer market. A sub-standard panic signing.

Please don't tell me he has a year's contract with us blink.gif

Because Mr Rae and JM never had a disagreement in three and a half years apparently-or so the old clown was splurging in yesterday's papers.

Everybody knows that's a lie, so either the Chairman is a bare faced liar, or he IS losing it.

There again, it may be both. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-24 11:35:40
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Feb 24 2008, 10:49 AM) [snapback]409673[/snapback]
Truly puzzled. Bombscare keeper, inadequate defenders and strikers who can't buy a goal. Glad we have nothing to worry about.

Stop girnin'-IF Rae is to be believed-he'd have still had us with JM in charge. We do have things to worry about, but I no longer fear relegation.
mortonjag 2008-02-24 11:49:50
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Feb 24 2008, 10:45 AM) [snapback]409671[/snapback]
The mearns, moneyculturalism. laugh.gif Very true, the McBs are the poor of the parish up here.
Aye it's the place for good schools.

Deo Volente, I should have another 7 years to serve.

Then God be with you! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-24 12:03:21
QUOTE(Putonmatea @ Feb 24 2008, 11:47 AM) [snapback]409689[/snapback]
This is the first time I have posted so sorry if I make a mess of it.
In reply to your question my understanding is as follows.
Pre-Contract agreements are intended to iron out the more important details to be included within the Contract. ie the details like start date, length of Contract, Wages etc will be summarised within the pre-contract. This Pre-Contract agreement will then be incorporated within the Contract and will threrefore form part of the Contract. It is intended to get the initial discussions / agreements sorted out quickly and to save time when the Contract is to be signed. A willingness from both parties obviously exists to sit down and talk and get this Pre-Contract produced but it is NOT a Contract. It is my opinion (Without actually knowing the complete details) that Chris Millar could stay with Morton if he wished.

It is an agreement between two parties and under Scottish Law is, I believe, binding, if either party insists.

As I stated previously it does not carry the weight of a full contract, but that by no means allows Midge just to 'walk away'.
mortonjag 2008-02-24 12:19:20
QUOTE(Putonmatea @ Feb 24 2008, 12:11 PM) [snapback]409703[/snapback]
That is why I said "Without knowing the full details". I agree with your point but by it`s nature it is and agreement before Contract. I think it might possible on the basis that he has agreed what the Contact Conditions are to be but has not yet concluded the Contract.

The way I see it is quite simple-there is an agreement that Millar will play for St Johnstone-even if the SPECIFIC terms have not been thrashed out. Thus, Millar cannot just 'walk away' without the other party claiming some kind of recompense. OK-they cannot start arguing that they have 'lost three years of his services' if there's no specific contract to that effect. A court would have to decide what compensation was fair if the clubs could not reach an agreement.
mortonjag 2008-02-24 16:52:08
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 24 2008, 01:29 PM) [snapback]409743[/snapback]
FYI MJ this is the address of The Greenock Cemetery.

It's the last place to clear-out before tomorrow but I just cannae move them, any ideas ??
Forza I noticed you nicked my sleeping place in the bus stop last night on Nelson St.

You're allocated Bus Stop is the one beside the College not Old Joe's Cafe tongue.gif

I know Willow, those corpses can be extremely difficult to move-I've another job on tonight and I'm so weary I might just postpone it-anyway-back to the point -1 South Street-the dead centre of Greenock-I'd just leave it as it is-will it work out-'remains to be seen'.
mortonjag 2008-02-24 17:05:17
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Feb 24 2008, 01:40 PM) [snapback]409750[/snapback]
My friend is half polish, her dad came here during the war. It's certainly not Polish that people are against or any Eastern European it's the situation, they are heading here en masse and we cannot absorb them. This has never happened before, it's just not working :(

And that is EXACTLY what the do gooders, fools, and those with a vested interest don't want to hear, LL.

Sometimes I wonder if it would take a Sheriff's Officer, an eviction order, and a taxi full of immigrants to shake some of those clowns out of smug and complacent ideology.

Oh and WHY should I have to repeat in every post that I don't blame the immigrants themselves?

I have yet to hear one poster comment positively on experiences living day in, day out, in one of the worst afflicted areas.

Inverclyde is virtually untouched. I regularly drive the whole way through to 'McInroys', and occasionally pop into the Oak Mall on the way, and see less foreign faces between the Port and Dunoon, than I see in the last minute of my drive home.
mortonjag 2008-02-24 17:07:29
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 24 2008, 01:56 PM) [snapback]409762[/snapback]
Aye, i'm surprised and shocked that a country the size of Scotland can handle all 5 million people that currently inhabit it.
Mebbe we should create a 1 child scheme like China's to limit our vast overfowing population - especially in towns like Greenock that are just full to the brim at the moment.
Rationale, no?

Son should you not be out doing National Service?

Shagging for yer country!
mortonjag 2008-02-24 17:09:16
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 24 2008, 02:10 PM) [snapback]409773[/snapback]
Or we could just build houses in areas like Greenock and other peripheral parts of the Central Belt, such as East Lothian.
And we could also develop parts of Fife - what tourist in their right mind wants to visit Kirkcaldy or Glenrothes?
Seen as there's so many of these immigrants then surely the economic stimulus of house building, combined with the added economic worth of all these new people would more than compensate for tourism revenue (which of course we can still get as we would never ned to pave every single part of the country).
Now, as for these immigrants coming "en masse" - is there any evidence to show the extent of migration at all?
Can a significant quantifiable figure be produced to support this?
Or are we just repeating the tired cliches of the Daily Mail and Daily Express? smile.gif

You've already been invited to a guided tour, or was that another of the children?
mortonjag 2008-02-24 17:10:42
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 24 2008, 02:48 PM) [snapback]409799[/snapback]
Care to expand on that rather pointless expression?
Is there any statistics that show the hordes of migrants or not?
Is there really no chance that they could not assimilate in the same way that so many other waves of immigration have, or would we rather keep them in their own area, thank you very much?

AYE son


GHETTO F*CK
mortonjag 2008-02-24 17:16:49
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Feb 24 2008, 04:05 PM) [snapback]409837[/snapback]
Both Aitken and Archer were pursued as a result of civil cases if my memory is correct. Sheridan is simply getting what Archer and Aitken got.

....in the same nightclub?
mortonjag 2008-02-24 17:22:01
QUOTE(se65an @ Feb 24 2008, 12:27 PM) [snapback]409714[/snapback]
I for one fully back this new proposed law.

2 year minimal for carrying a knife regardless if it s used or not.

I hope we go one better and add:

5 years for using a knife and life as in life for killing anyone with a knife.

It time Inverclyde and Scotland stamped out this culture once and for all, before yet another life is wasted.
Who else agree's!

I endorse that totally Sean, and guarantee to expose the dual morality of many of our posters when I suggest that EXACTLY the same rules should apply to those who take to the streets in a ton or two of steel while under the influence of alcohol.
mortonjag 2008-02-24 17:29:57
QUOTE(Putonmatea @ Feb 24 2008, 12:32 PM) [snapback]409718[/snapback]
Law is not usually quite simple but consider this. St Johnstone present a Contract for signing and Millars lawers note a clause in it that they are not happy with and was not discussed during Pre-Contract talks. Millars lawers request it is deleted and St Johnstone insist it stays. The Contract is then not agreed and therefore not signed or concluded.

Lets face it Millar is going anyway so we`ll never know.

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It isn't quite as you outline-the final 'to-ings and fro-ings' between lawyers go on in every type of contract the length and breadth of the country. That does NOT preclude agreement by both parties to enter a bargain.

As I have said, Midge couldn't just 'walk away' if St Johnstone still wanted him. It would be their option to exude generosity or try to squeeze Shoogly for his last bent halfpenny.
mortonjag 2008-02-24 17:34:24
QUOTE(Davy B Ton @ Feb 24 2008, 12:36 PM) [snapback]409722[/snapback]
If only you'd told me that before the game!

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OOps-sorry Davy-I mistook your avatar for that of another ass-my good friend Neddy Tailbearer!
mortonjag 2008-02-24 17:41:19
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Feb 24 2008, 01:50 PM) [snapback]409757[/snapback]
Looking for a smiley that along the lines of:

'totally embarrassed, feels like a total p***k, has no excuses and is due a right ribbing on here'

Anyone got one handy?

Didn't even realise until Andy pointed at me with a look of total disbelief on his coupon!
Actually surprised this hasn't turned into a 5 pager with a TTG type theme.

I'll be appologising to DEREK next time I see him.

Yes the David Wylie announcement is true, was reading off the official team sheet too, must have been stuck in a wee time warp...

Ach, we're not all perfect...

Let the public flogging begin... sad.gif

You see-it SHOULD have been left up to Shoogly after all.

He could have called him 'Far Cuillins' and everybody would just have smiled benignly.

Power without responsibility-surrender yer mike to ThonTON-you KNOW you want to! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-25 06:29:14
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 24 2008, 11:48 PM) [snapback]410127[/snapback]
Scurvy

Scabby
mortonjag 2008-02-25 07:00:54
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Feb 25 2008, 06:28 AM) [snapback]410144[/snapback]
I wasn't comparing the two. Loyal Lass was, when she described the concept of ghettos for immigrants. Or did I make the mistake of reading literally what she had written. The ghetto was where the Jews were put by citizens of town who didn't want to mix with them. Then they were deported to the camps. I can't call her juvenile as I think she might be around the same age as me. But it was the crassest analogy used on this thread. And what competition it is had from both sides.

You have made many unsubstantiated comments about poles (an airline magazine, wtf). therefore I was just asking who you hated before you started making the poles your scapegoat. I didn't say you hated Poles. Just that they were your scapegoat.

I've spent the last 20 years living and working between the UK and various other countries, including working at the sharp end of immigration. We have controlled immigration in the UK. Read the 1979 Act, the 1981 Nationality Act and take a visit to a visa section in any British Embassy. Read the Appellate Authorities annual report. All of which will back this up.

We're never going to agree on this. So I'll you get back to your delusions of mass immigration.



Aye right TAFKAK-make up your bloody mind-you approve of a free labour market-that's fine by me-some may not like it-but there's an inherent fairness in it even if it's far from perfect, and it naturally ensures a dissemination of labour across fairly wide parts of the country.

Now to your 'we have controlled immigration'-yes we do, and IMHO it's controlled in a wantonly haphazard fashion. Controlled, concentrated dumping-that's EXACTLY what it is.

You object to LL's proper use of the term 'Ghetto', but you entirely miss the point-the neo ghettos of Scotland are evolving overnight from relatively settled pockets of multiculturalism, and the natives of all ethnic origins are getting extremely restless. They didn't want it, they don't like what they see, and many are getting out while the going's good. That is a fact AND an indictment of any pathetic attempt at use of the word 'integration', by those who don't want to know the truth.

Maybe if some care was taken in the dispersal of those people into places like Inverclyde and dozens of other provincial conurbations-maybe if some genuine effort was made to find them employment of some kind-somewhere- we might see a dilution of the current phenomenon and some hope of faster integration.

Better still, why not just insist that they are dumped (for dumped they are) only in the areas with the highest band Council Tax? dry.gif

For Ghetto you could instantly substitute the term 'Bloody Revolution'.
mortonjag 2008-02-25 07:09:40 I must be doing something wrong. I've never been physically assaulted in my life.

I think that's quite an achievement for someone of my self absorption and arrogance.
mortonjag 2008-02-25 07:16:20
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 25 2008, 02:11 AM) [snapback]410143[/snapback]
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They probably have their spies on this messageboard too!!!


Time to pay your way forza!
mortonjag 2008-02-25 07:21:01
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Feb 24 2008, 07:06 PM) [snapback]409900[/snapback]
Apology:

Derek 'John' Collins‏
From: Inver Ally (inverally@hotmail.com)
Sent: 24 February 2008 19:02:55
To: chiefexec@gmfc.net

Gillian, please pass on the note below to Derek please.

Derek,

Just a short note to apologise unreservedly for my announcement prior to the match on Saturday, yes I'm the Tannoy guy.
I can assure you it was a genuine mistake and a total mind block which was inexcusable.
I know how much this move means to you (and Davie) and hope that it didn't dampen your spirits for what must have been an excitable and emotional day.
Having followed Morton for over 30 years I still cannot believe that I made such an error, and a very public one at that.
In all those years I have always regarded you as one of the most dedicated and professional of players and have been a great servant to our club, hopefully in this term for many years to come.
Finally I wish you and Davie every success at Cappielow and hope to see the glory days again in the very near future.

Best Regards and Sorry again,

Alasdair McGregor

'Having followed Morton for over 30 years, I'm sure you can understand why I made such a simple slip'? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-25 07:22:09
QUOTE(Marc @ Feb 23 2008, 08:57 PM) [snapback]409409[/snapback]
I think Irons would get the best out of McAnespie tongue.gif

He plays TT as well?
mortonjag 2008-02-25 07:23:52
QUOTE(piehutt @ Feb 24 2008, 04:07 PM) [snapback]409839[/snapback]
Would def like to see McAnespie on the left with McAlister on the right.

McAnespie's deliveries are exceptional and would def like to see him in the side for that alone. Given that we would need to drop Finlayson to accomodate this, I don't think it's much of a gamble.

Aye right PIEHOLE-if you're going down that line of argument, we'd be better off bringing back Andy Ritchie.
mortonjag 2008-02-25 07:25:30
QUOTE(piehutt @ Feb 24 2008, 05:00 PM) [snapback]409847[/snapback]
They are by far the best of any player we have.
They are driven in with pace and good height. The hardest to defend.

McLaughlin's generally find the right area, but hang in the air far too long and so are easier to defend.

Tell him to whip aff his jock strap at the last minute.
mortonjag 2008-02-25 07:34:27
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 24 2008, 11:25 PM) [snapback]410123[/snapback]
Peter Weatherson and the way he plays is the last thing that needs to be addressed at Morton.

fair enough when he was low on confidence he got stick but since the QOS game he's been better and scoring when he gets the chance to, which is hardly ever because we either bypass the midfield completely punting the ball upto his head or cross the ball into the box maybe 5 times at most a game with only maybe one being decent enough for a capable striker to do anything with.

Plenty of guys at Scapa right now can and will score goals if Irons sorts out the supply system.
mortonjag 2008-02-25 08:52:00
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Feb 25 2008, 08:29 AM) [snapback]410155[/snapback]
Today is the happiest day of my life, and my fiancee's, as she has just been granted a fiancee visa to come to Scotland to marry me !!! We'll be home within 4 days !!!! It's been a lot of hard work, we never slept last night as I had her focus on remembering everyone in my family's name, words like ''Darroch Bar'' ,''Greenock'' & ''Dempster Street''.

They ended up not interviewing her after us waiting 4 hours....but me instead....and the interviewer was a bloke from Largs !!!. Unbelieveble. Much Relief.

To anyone racist on this thread who thinks my fiancee should not be able to work after she marries me, today, today I say, GET IT RIGHT UP YE. My fiancee deserves and is entitled to work in Scotland as much as you are.

VICTORY TO THE GOOD PEOPLE.

Congratulations on your happy news-and lang may baith o' yer lums reek! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-25 08:54:45 I'm pretty certain we'll win this one-anything else is surely unthinkable at this stage.
mortonjag 2008-02-25 09:01:14 I'm not really bothered about the witterings of 77 year olds, though I'm told Sir Sean has been a fan of Scotland since he was very young.

Actors, like politicians, get paid lots of money for living in a world of make believe.
mortonjag 2008-02-25 09:06:53
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 25 2008, 08:56 AM) [snapback]410166[/snapback]
The £950 donation is just the tip of the iceberg with Wendy - and as one journalist asked a member of the electoral commission, "you have an independently corroborated confession, what more do you need?". Wendy admitted breaking the law; Charles Gordon admitted breaking the law. Other than a whitewash by a Labour-influenced commission, what explanation can you come up with for NOT reporting this matter to the Procurator Fiscal? She's also in deep doo-doo over this fraud involving fund raising dinners where the destination of the funds was misrepresented. No doubt she will try to disassociate herself from that one too; and from the paid advocacy charges (praising Braehead shopping centre in a parliamentary motion without revealing that they gave her a donation); and also some other dodgy business revealed in the Sunday Times this week.

Salmond didn't ignore local democracy - he helped Aberdeen council out of a proceduaral cul-de-sac, possibly saving a development that will create jobs, and which appears to be wanted not only by the majority of the people in the area bar a few, such as the councillor who singlehandedly tried to scupper it. Even Nicol Stephen is on record as saying he wants that development. Your point however is to try to imply that Salmond is benefitting personally from the development - I doubt very much that he would risk his political career for something like that; he has bigger fish to fry. If he lets down the independence movement, he would not be forgiven and I'm sure he is well aware of that.

On the Sheridan business, they do seem to be trying hard to nab him for something. I think they may have a case in the perjury matter, but the miniatures business seems to be a bit vindictive - maybe she will claim the bottles were planted.... Nevertheless if she did nick them, it is theft - just because you're stealing from your employer doesn't make it OK.

Sheridan's relative success has always been on the back of iconoclasm, and anything and everything have been fair game for his scurrilous diatribes-not least those who are trying to uphold law and order. The man is the personification of inverted snobbery.They WILL get him, and I'm looking forward to that with some relish.

Nobody is bigger than the law of the land.
mortonjag 2008-02-26 06:32:45
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Feb 25 2008, 01:16 PM) [snapback]410225[/snapback]
Because he's a common man's hero, a freedom fighter and an inspiration to the people? Or maybe he's just a lawbreaking, fame seeking dick who's finally gonna be removed from my tv screen?

Who truly knows?

It could be argued that he fits all of those descriptions BH.

One thing's for sure the amount of tax payers' money those three could save by pleading guilty would feed a few hungry mouths.

Come to think of it-knowing that they'll probably do the decent thing.
mortonjag 2008-02-26 06:39:54 It's sad, and don't imagine it's not the tip of an iceberg. The policy of 'inclusion' in our schools has inevitably left vulnerable children open to this sort of abuse.
mortonjag 2008-02-26 06:43:25
QUOTE(davidh1874 @ Feb 26 2008, 12:19 AM) [snapback]410508[/snapback]
Weather

vane
mortonjag 2008-02-26 06:58:33
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 25 2008, 07:26 PM) [snapback]410356[/snapback]
MJ, what happened to VikingTON's visitors ??

Seems it's a long story Willow. Apparently all twenty train loads were thrilled at the prospect of moving to the seaside until somebody asked if they had a choice in the matter. Don't ask me how, but he had got word of this thread, and began disseminating scare stories about living in this huge graveyard in Greenock.

I think they all got a bit confused and decided 'better the devil they know'.

They are setting up a shrine to St Vikington as I type.
mortonjag 2008-02-26 07:06:51
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Feb 23 2008, 11:11 PM) [snapback]409532[/snapback]
We play in the next few Games:

Stirling (h)
Hamilton (a)
Clyde (a)
Partick (h)
Livvy (h)

We need imho 10 points from that lot and I think we can get them. After that its

Queens (a)
Dundee (h)
St Johnstone (a)
Dunfermline (h)
Partick (a)

If we get back on track on the first five games, we will take points from these, maybe 6/7. If we don't we will take nothing from them due to low confidence. So, the next five weeks, maybe the next three, make or break Morton.

An emergency loan defender would be good meantime plus McGurn back in goals

It's always a healthy sign when Tonsilitis gets back to his statistics. We are on the way up, and that will start with a comfortable victory over Stirling.
mortonjag 2008-02-26 07:14:51 If anyone is genuinely worried about what others may think of our programme, they need look no further than the Chairman's notes.

Cappie is at least doing his best to get down to the children's level, while Shoogly struggles to get up to it.
mortonjag 2008-02-26 07:19:53
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Feb 26 2008, 02:32 AM) [snapback]410526[/snapback]
Our goal on Saturday came from a McAlister cross. Meanwhile Finlayson put in some of the worst crosses I have seen from a professional footballer.

From the sides they play on, both Jimbo and Kev are relatively poor at crossing-and very erratic at that.

Neither is the finished article. We have been desperately crying out for a genuine winger for more than two seasons
mortonjag 2008-02-26 07:24:13 Of course it does-being a true football fan is part of life.

Most clubs have unofficial forums where that can be demonstrated to a greater or lesser degree.
mortonjag 2008-02-26 08:34:47 You are all SO young!

Many happy returns.
mortonjag 2008-02-26 08:44:50
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Feb 26 2008, 08:24 AM) [snapback]410551[/snapback]
And that is at the heart of the issue Trick, but unfortunately the one blurs the perception of the other and causes the friction that is obvious in many parts of the Europe - not just the UK.

ScotinBelgie

Correct Robert, and it's a well recognised fact that what is 'Legal' does not 'de facto' represent the true wishes of the populace.

A referendum on bringing back the death penalty has been avoided at all costs by our political representatives masters for nigh on fifty years, (to cite one instance of that).

This is just another example of why being in 'Europe' is BAD for the United Kingdom-not that all of it is bad-I mean we've got rid of you and CHC for starters! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-26 08:54:01 I hate when folk have a go at players when their form goes off-nobody is or has been immune and today's saint is tomorrow's sinner.

The trouble with Brian is that he was brought here as a 'WANTED' player-the long awaited striker at the end of another painful transfer window, and I've yet to see him convince me that Hamilton got it wrong. Hopefully he will.
mortonjag 2008-02-26 08:56:34 Mediocre goalies can look competent behind a good defence and vice versa.
mortonjag 2008-02-26 09:22:51
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 26 2008, 09:19 AM) [snapback]410564[/snapback]
Cheap gag....

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mortonjag 2008-02-26 09:25:09 In view of recent threads on Damien etc.
mortonjag 2008-02-26 13:26:30
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Feb 26 2008, 11:41 AM) [snapback]410603[/snapback]
Jane

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mortonjag 2008-02-26 13:44:19
QUOTE(RSC @ Feb 26 2008, 12:01 PM) [snapback]410612[/snapback]
I live in Peterborough. Cambridgeshire. - We have a large number of immigrants, (Approx No.s) 7,000 Pakistani's (many 2nd generation), 1500 Indians, 10,000 Italians (many 2nd generation) a variety of Lithuainians, Latvians, African, Iranians, Serbs, Afghanies, and many Mediteranian nationalities plus recently around 1500 Poles.
We often have inter racial problems between many of the above, but the nationality known for their integration, hard work ethic and friendliness to all are the Poles. If all immigrants could only work similarly we wouldn't have so many lazy, dole grabbing layabouts living on state handouts demanding services and housing they could only dream of in their own country.
Poles seem much like us in attitude and ethics - our chapple population has doubled recently and the old half time plate has seen a rise in income particularly in old zloty loose change!
They seem good people, and certainly better to live amongst than many of the others mentioned above.

That sounds not too dissimilar to how things were in the area of Glasgow I inhabit -BEFORE the current influx RSC-sure there were always petty tensions but people generally pulled together, AND almost all of the 'second generation-on' minorities saw themselves as Scots.

Now there is a palpable sense of unity against the latest influx from eastern Europe. I cannot comment on the truth behind figures, but to suggest that those people are arriving here and walking into jobs is an outrage. What I'll also tell you without fear of contradiction is that they are literally 'all over the place' here. It IS causing discontent, and particularly in one area a mile north, it will only take a minor incident to ignite a major racial battle between the local Pakistani/Scots community, and those incomers. That is acknowedged by the local Police, who have had to step up vigilance. It is NOT healthy, and is not in the spirit of integration.


DUMPING must stop, even if that simply means a controlled dispersal throughout the country.
mortonjag 2008-02-26 13:48:20
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Feb 26 2008, 12:24 PM) [snapback]410616[/snapback]
who's going to be doing the birching? prison officers, teachers, policemen or what? i'd be a bit worried that the birchers might be getting some serious kicks out of spanking a child's arse. and some of those kids might be into it as well. institutionalised beating leads to a nation of ponces - just look at the english upper classes.

anyway the problems in our society are too serious to be solved by some spanking. we have to do something about the fact that there are now people out there with three generations of unemployment behind them.

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mortonjag 2008-02-26 13:49:07
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 26 2008, 10:40 AM) [snapback]410582[/snapback]
I forgot people were never stabbed before they got rid of capital punishment.

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mortonjag 2008-02-26 13:53:03
QUOTE(princessTON @ Feb 26 2008, 01:06 PM) [snapback]410638[/snapback]
well my niece likes the cappie the cat page smile.gif
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I don't think children's opinions count on a big boys' (and girls') forum Princess! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-26 13:56:30 Erik Sorensen-miles ahead and that's acknowledged by Bainsy himself in the second 'Ton Greats' book.

Mind you I didn't see Jimmy Cowan.
mortonjag 2008-02-26 13:57:56 Mary
mortonjag 2008-02-26 14:29:42
QUOTE(davidh1874 @ Feb 26 2008, 02:25 PM) [snapback]410700[/snapback]
billabong tongue.gif

matilda
mortonjag 2008-02-26 14:36:04
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 26 2008, 02:00 PM) [snapback]410685[/snapback]
Liar, wasn't he in your class at school? laugh.gif wink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-02-26 14:41:18
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Feb 26 2008, 02:36 PM) [snapback]410712[/snapback]
I agree, sadly.

There's absolutely no logic behind any prediction that we'll win on Saturday.

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You've got VERY pessimistic surely!

We looked better against Dundee, and were not too bad on Saturday. The new management will have had another full week to chew things over. We are at home again. Stirling just flopped 6-1.

Most of all -- the Monkey says we'll win GUARANTEED! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-26 14:43:42 knox
mortonjag 2008-02-26 14:49:08 Big-endian and little-endian derive from Jonathan Swift's Gulliver's Travels in which the Big Endians were a political faction that broke their eggs at the large end ("the primitive way") and rebelled against the Lilliputian King who required his subjects (the Little Endians) to break their eggs at the small end.

I prefer to remove the shells before boiling, as I despise controversy.
mortonjag 2008-02-26 14:49:57 wooga
mortonjag 2008-02-26 15:00:29
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 26 2008, 02:56 PM) [snapback]410734[/snapback]
Do you mean break as in cut or break the shell in order to gain access to the contents.

If you do, we are at cross purposes, mate.

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I believe this habit/tradition to be exclusively Scots.

Perhaps it has died out ?

Serving

Soft boiled eggs are commonly served in egg cups, where the top of the egg is cut off with a knife or egg scissors, using a teaspoon to scoop the egg out. Other methods include breaking the eggshell by tapping gently around the top of the shell with a spoon,[3] and even cutting the egg lengthwise as to produce two halves making it easier to scoop the egg from its shell[citation needed]. This method requires a horizontal egg cup to keep the egg from rolling around on the plate. Soft-boiled eggs can be eaten with buttered toast cut into strips, which are then dipped into the runny yolk. In Great Britain, these strips of toast are known as soldiers.
mortonjag 2008-02-26 15:07:35
QUOTE(Muz @ Feb 26 2008, 03:02 PM) [snapback]410738[/snapback]
Christ. New levels of boredom where you didnt think it was possible.

Damn this Internet Browser for signing me out and removing the ignore function for these two!!

If you're not enjoying the yolk, you don't need to play!
mortonjag 2008-02-26 15:08:32 aga
mortonjag 2008-02-26 15:10:34
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Feb 26 2008, 03:05 PM) [snapback]410740[/snapback]
i second that...

also...pump daphne for me....saucy wee minx tongue.gif

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The mind boggles! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-26 15:11:23 egg spoon
mortonjag 2008-02-26 15:17:09
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 26 2008, 03:13 PM) [snapback]410752[/snapback]
mortonjag, are you playing dumb ?

Or despite your passing years, have you never heard of the practice ?

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The terms Big-Endian and Little-Endian are from the Lilliput episode of Gulliver's Travels, where they are satires on the Protestant and Roman Catholic religions, and their effect as factions in the politics of the two rival and warring empires of Lilliput and Blefuscu, representing respectively Great Britain and France.

They refer to which end of the egg you crack open to eat. Reldresal, principal secretary to the Lilliputian emperor, explained it to Gulliver thus.

It began upon the following occasion. It is allowed on all hands, that the primitive way of breaking eggs, before we eat them, was upon the larger end; but his present majesty's grandfather, while he was a boy, going to eat an egg, and breaking it according to the ancient practice, happened to cut one of his fingers. Whereupon the emperor his father published an edict, commanding all his subjects, upon great penalties, to break the smaller end of their eggs. The people so highly resented this law, that our histories tell us, there have been six rebellions raised on that account; wherein one emperor lost his life, and another his crown. These civil commotions were constantly fomented by the monarchs of Blefuscu; and when they were quelled, the exiles always fled for refuge to that empire. It is computed that eleven thousand persons have at several times suffered death, rather than submit to break their eggs at the smaller end. Many hundred large volumes have been published upon this controversy: but the books of the Big-endians have been long forbidden, and the whole party rendered incapable by law of holding employments. During the course of these troubles, the emperors of Blefuscu did frequently expostulate by their ambassadors, accusing us of making a schism in religion, by offending against a fundamental doctrine of our great prophet Lustrog, in the fifty-fourth chapter of the Blundecral (which is their Alcoran). This, however, is thought to be a mere strain upon the text; for the words are these: 'that all true believers break their eggs at the convenient end.'

By the time Gulliver arrives there are so many Big-endian exiles in the court of Blefuscu that that nation is launching a major assault on Lilliput, where Gulliver is now a free person. In gratitude for his freedom, he destroys the Blefuscudian fleet.


I've never heard of the practice of breaking the shell after the egg has been eaten, although we used to throw them to the dog, much in the same way as the old midwives threw a fresh placenta.
mortonjag 2008-02-26 15:19:51 whisker
mortonjag 2008-02-26 15:23:15
QUOTE(princessTON @ Feb 26 2008, 03:22 PM) [snapback]410761[/snapback]
cat

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mortonjag 2008-02-26 15:26:04 When Cappie first arrived I didn't like his lethargic ways-in fact I even started a thread asking if he was 'ON something'.

Now I see him for what he is-just a laid back, friendly big poosy, whom the kids seem to adore.

I think Cappie's OK.
mortonjag 2008-02-26 15:27:59 finger
mortonjag 2008-02-26 15:32:27 hammer
mortonjag 2008-02-26 15:36:55 face
mortonjag 2008-02-26 15:40:01
QUOTE(port-ton @ Feb 26 2008, 03:37 PM) [snapback]410789[/snapback]
the only thing you've ever been remotely positive about on here and its the one thing you should be 100% negative about tongue.gif

That is extremely cruel, and untrue to boot! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-26 15:41:39
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 26 2008, 03:37 PM) [snapback]410791[/snapback]
Pace, skill, touch, aerial prowess, awareness? We've had loads of players through the years who have also lacked these attributes....

Seriously though, it's alarming how many inadequate players were signed under McInally. I'll give Wake every chance to succeed, but from what everyone is saying, it's not looking good. East Fife will be sniffing around soon.

....and Rae.

Remember they NEVER had a disagreement in three and a half years! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-26 15:43:00 peepers
mortonjag 2008-02-26 15:44:31
QUOTE(Yoda @ Feb 26 2008, 03:43 PM) [snapback]410801[/snapback]
My superstitious granny used to tell me to break the bottom of the shell that it would stop the devil using it as a boat!

Yet another nightmare perpetrated on youngsters by an older generation who should bloody know better!

don't even get me started on bread crusts, pogies and crying on your birthday!

....AND the 'Bogeyman'-surely?
mortonjag 2008-02-26 15:55:05
QUOTE(Yoda @ Feb 26 2008, 03:49 PM) [snapback]410807[/snapback]
Never the bogey man - I could never be convinced of that one, but my bags were packed for the ragged school on more than one occasion - usually when I was protesting too loudly about the pogies!! blink.gif

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We were warned that the devil would toast our toes on the fire if we were bad-the bogeyman would take us away and never bring us back-and aye-the ragged school was a favourite threat!
mortonjag 2008-02-26 15:56:18 shrieks
mortonjag 2008-02-26 16:02:30
QUOTE(BlueTube @ Feb 26 2008, 03:58 PM) [snapback]410823[/snapback]
ice

frigid
mortonjag 2008-02-26 16:05:11
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 26 2008, 03:57 PM) [snapback]410820[/snapback]
the ragged school was a favourite threat!
Is that where you learnt ...

around around the rugged rock the ragged rascal ran ???

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No-no


Round and round the rugged rock the ragged rascal ran!
mortonjag 2008-02-26 16:05:55 bust
mortonjag 2008-02-26 16:08:56 pawn
mortonjag 2008-02-26 16:10:35
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 26 2008, 04:05 PM) [snapback]410828[/snapback]
i was on ready steady cook. i made a pot noodle and a piece n crisps

Plain bread with cheese 'n' onion?
mortonjag 2008-02-26 16:12:03
QUOTE(forza ton @ Feb 26 2008, 04:09 PM) [snapback]410837[/snapback]
amen to that.

Very true, and we could start by recruiting birchers.
mortonjag 2008-02-26 16:14:38
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 26 2008, 04:09 PM) [snapback]410834[/snapback]

I always found 'Red leather, yellow leather' very difficult.
mortonjag 2008-02-26 16:16:31 lolly
mortonjag 2008-02-26 16:18:31
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Feb 26 2008, 04:16 PM) [snapback]410851[/snapback]
beaten up in a cup with loads of butter and some toast all washed down with a cuppa tea!

The egg must be soft boiled for that one.
mortonjag 2008-02-26 16:19:14 meal
mortonjag 2008-02-26 16:25:02
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Feb 26 2008, 10:49 AM) [snapback]410586[/snapback]
Ummm....move over, Will Ferrell.....

As they say in New York....'nuf said...!

That is one scrawny creature.
mortonjag 2008-02-27 06:19:55 snow
mortonjag 2008-02-27 06:29:23
QUOTE(simple_ton @ Feb 26 2008, 08:49 PM) [snapback]411128[/snapback]
I do "The Herald" cryptic crossword every day - you can always tell what days it's going to be difficult 'cos they put a wee "doodle-face" in the business column right next to it!

I print it off so I don't see those 'doodle-faces'. You get used to the compilers and clues after a while and the challenge is to see how quickly you can complete it.

Here are two from today.

'He may play a drunken Croat'-the clue is 'drunken' indicating an anagram of Croat = actor (he may play).

'Giant bird on a pole'= Titan (tit on 'a'and 'N' for north.
mortonjag 2008-02-27 06:39:05
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 27 2008, 12:14 AM) [snapback]411249[/snapback]
From Godwin's Law to Newton's Law. Makes no sense at all. laugh.gif

If you paint a wee moustache on a Granny Smith somebody will take the pip.
mortonjag 2008-02-27 06:43:19
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 26 2008, 06:58 PM) [snapback]410990[/snapback]
One of the most pointless thread ever... corporal punishment is banned under EU law. rolleyes.gif

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That sounds like a DAMNED GOOD reason for debating it.
mortonjag 2008-02-27 06:57:10
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 26 2008, 08:18 PM) [snapback]411081[/snapback]
I'm surprised that no-one seems to have touched on the moral argument.

How can you expect to teach children that violence is wrong when violence is inflicted upon them as a method of disciplining them?

The belt certainly didn't reduce the violent tendencies of the neds in my day, and I'm sure it wouldn't now either.

Anyway, back to my original point, it'll never happen anyway as it's against EU law.

The moral argument as you put it is quite simple. Society either lives by generally accepted rules or in anarchy.

Those who CHOOSE to disobey the rules have no 'moral' right to put themselves above the general good.

It is evident in current Scottish society that there is a sub culture of thuggery, and I frankly don't give a f*ck about all the usual reasons, lies, and excuses.

MidTONs is correct about Draconian measures decimating the Glasgow razor gangs.

Organised criminals were very selective about weaponry before the death penalty was abolished.

The message---Carry a knife and society will beat f*ck out of you-I LIKE THAT-and if any of my loved ones was stabbed to death I can assure you I'd want to do more than birch the evil b*****d who CHOSE to go out armed.

Moral issue CHC-it's immoral to condone violence and murder IMHO, and that includes laughing off measures which would be effective in preventing such evils.
mortonjag 2008-02-27 07:10:25
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Feb 26 2008, 11:46 PM) [snapback]411239[/snapback]
Try being a teacher for a day... huh.gif

I teach in a rough school, there is a general lack of respect for teachers, but when you scratch the surface of the bravado and treat them properly there are plenty of nice kids, they're not all bad.
Belting them won't change a thing in my opinion, respect works 2 ways, you can earn respect by being respectful.

Of course they're not ALL bad, and of course you can win over the vast majority by treating them as adults and respectfully.

M4RKO-you know very well that many of those young thugs who are willing to tote weapons are already out of mainstream education in their early teens.

Respect and discipline should be learned in the home. A child entering primary one deserves a basic understanding of 'right and wrong', AND of reward and punishment. If things are awry in the family no amount of 'treating them properly' can be guaranteed results.

The truth is that there is a hard core of antisocial behaviour which only plays by its own rules. For that small minority, it has to be 'an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth'.
mortonjag 2008-02-27 07:15:58 Good gracious-over twelve hours and none of the usual suspects has jumped to the defence of G.M.F.C.net, Greenock's answer to The Dead Sea Scrolls.
mortonjag 2008-02-27 07:21:03
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 26 2008, 08:03 PM) [snapback]411060[/snapback]
Spewing peach schnapps and listening to Avril Lavigne are bound under law.

It's blue Bols you two deserve.
mortonjag 2008-02-27 07:24:22
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 26 2008, 09:15 PM) [snapback]411152[/snapback]
Queen of the South have also won more games at Scapa this season than we have in the league.
Despite all these things some posters on here thought JM was doing a decent job wink.gif

Almost 80% this time last year Willow-some of them were even a tad nasty to the less faithful! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-27 07:28:27 Deuchar has taken full advantage of his medical education in this country, and is now deserting the NHS the minute his training is complete.

Good riddance to a greedy b*****d.
mortonjag 2008-02-27 07:30:30 Who is this Billy McNeill? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-27 07:33:25
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Feb 26 2008, 08:13 PM) [snapback]411071[/snapback]
Daily intake:

Bendrofluazide
Coracten
Lopace
Simvador

I think 45 years of Ton watching has had some effect.

Aye but is he prescribing the right stuff?
mortonjag 2008-02-27 08:40:37
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 27 2008, 08:14 AM) [snapback]411288[/snapback]
Isn't the legalised beating of children condoning violence? rolleyes.gif

No it is not-what happened to the concept of accepting your just deserts.

I take it somebody once spanked your wee pink botty, and you've never forgiven him!
mortonjag 2008-02-27 08:42:07
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 27 2008, 08:15 AM) [snapback]411289[/snapback]
Then start another thread about pulling out of the EU then. tongue.gif

If I was forty years younger I'd be pulling out of IT!

Shower of namby pamby overpaid pen pushing ponces.
mortonjag 2008-02-27 08:43:24
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 27 2008, 08:17 AM) [snapback]411290[/snapback]
Goes back to the point I made earlier, corporal punishment was used as many as a cover and justification for child abuse.

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I KNEW it-you DID get your wee botty skelped! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-27 08:50:19
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 27 2008, 08:30 AM) [snapback]411298[/snapback]
Never heard of this eggshell breaking thing. I'm a little-endian myself, break the shell by hitting it with a teaspoon. Although years since I had a boiled egg in an eggcup.

I find when shelling a boiled egg (for making kedgeree for example) running it under the cold tap for a few seconds makes the shell peel off more easily. Today's top tip...

I run it under the cold tap-then bounce it gently off the sink till the shell's completely crazed-then peel from the natural air pocket at the wee end.

I love kedgeree-first tasted it in my Granny's in Holmscroft St. when I was a toddler. If you want it really healthy use wholegrain rice.
mortonjag 2008-02-27 08:51:49
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 27 2008, 08:49 AM) [snapback]411306[/snapback]
laugh.gif Do you write for the porno mags?

No-their authors write for me.
mortonjag 2008-02-27 08:54:21
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 27 2008, 08:22 AM) [snapback]411293[/snapback]
Deuchar has taken full advantage of his medical education in this country, and is now deserting the NHS the minute his training is complete.

Gidday mortonjag,

How is your application at Australia House coming along, digger ??

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They said I was too old.

Deuchar is a greedy b*****d!
mortonjag 2008-02-27 08:58:21
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 27 2008, 08:43 AM) [snapback]411304[/snapback]
Billy McNeil was apparently a centre half. He was playing for Scotland against England in 1961 when we lost 9-3. After that his career went downhill.

Oh that one-and he had the cheek to blame poor Mr Haffey. What would that anonymity know about our Andy Ritchie?
mortonjag 2008-02-27 09:01:21
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 27 2008, 08:51 AM) [snapback]411308[/snapback]
Or are you the leader writer for the Daily Mail? laugh.gif

I've never read the Daily Mail since I stopped delivering newspapers in the days when the word 'discipline' was understood, and people thought they knew all about national pride.
mortonjag 2008-02-27 09:25:56
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 27 2008, 08:26 AM) [snapback]411295[/snapback]
Regarding the term "Brit" - something on the radio this morning prompted the thought: Is calling someone a "Brit" not exactly the same as calling someone a "*potential ethnic slur removed*"? Both are simple abbreviations of a longer description, and both can be taken as offensive by the person so described.

Like describing a Canadian as a 'can' or somebody from Germany a 'germ'.
mortonjag 2008-02-27 09:39:09
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 27 2008, 09:31 AM) [snapback]411322[/snapback]
In other news, Scotch eggs have got eggs in them.

AHA-back to the Kit Kat conundrums!

How can an 'egg' have an egg in it.

A Scotch egg is similar to a motor car-it looks all body but it's what's inside that gives it the name.
mortonjag 2008-02-27 09:43:27
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 27 2008, 09:37 AM) [snapback]411325[/snapback]
And ex-pats abroad often refer to themselves as 'Brits'.

I think the term is rarely if ever used as an insult nowadays, is it? Therefore comparing it to the term Alibi uses above to describe people from the Asian sub-continent is, frankly, ridiculous.

Did he call them a bad name?
mortonjag 2008-02-27 09:45:08
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 27 2008, 09:40 AM) [snapback]411327[/snapback]
and use fresh eggs.

I can recommend seagull eggs from the Greater Cumbrae.

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How long have you had them?
mortonjag 2008-02-27 09:46:51
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 27 2008, 09:44 AM) [snapback]411331[/snapback]
I don't have to deny supporting the Israel bombing of Lebanon, because I have NEVER said I supported it ! And I don't have to lie about that either !

As for the swastika and butchers apron. Both flags represent two brutal imperialist regimes who committed crimes of genocide,murder,brutality and rape. Not really a million miles away from each other are they ?

And as for the term brit. Double standards again from unionists. They can quite happily call us nats, but get uptight about the word brit in reference to them.

Is a Brit/nat just a BRAT then?
mortonjag 2008-02-27 09:52:48
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 27 2008, 09:30 AM) [snapback]411319[/snapback]
Your obsession about the spanking of my botty is really quite disturbing. unsure.gif

I could talk about smacking you over the wrist, but it's accepted that the proper and natural place to be spanked upon is ones little pink botty.

If that offends I could go for one of those new fangled Europeanisms-how about der arskiten, or frapper la porte derriere-here I like kackenkrackenschmaken.
mortonjag 2008-02-27 09:54:36
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 27 2008, 09:33 AM) [snapback]411323[/snapback]
Who said there shouldn't be consequences? rolleyes.gif

I'll really starting to get a bit worried about you MJ. I hope you're OK.

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No it's OK CHC-if it goes wonky you'll know ALL about it I assure you! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-27 09:56:15 jack that thread
mortonjag 2008-02-27 10:00:25
QUOTE(ton1 @ Feb 27 2008, 09:53 AM) [snapback]411340[/snapback]
Iagree, they could update it daily ,would just give some on here more to moan about,get a life.If there is anything worthwhile we need to know the club put it on there.

OK Shoogly


I take it you ARE Shoogly-he's TON number 1

Have you taken your daily supplements yet?
mortonjag 2008-02-27 10:02:06
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 27 2008, 09:59 AM) [snapback]411344[/snapback]
last time was the Greenock Fair weekend in 2006, whilst Alibi was on his honeymoon.

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Sadly, the Ton were not playing that weekend.

Was probably a blessing in disguise.

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Have you tried duck and or goose eggs?
mortonjag 2008-02-27 10:12:20
QUOTE(Yoda @ Feb 27 2008, 10:02 AM) [snapback]411347[/snapback]
To a degree I would agree with you, however abuse takes many forms and can happen just as easily in the home as at the hands of over zealous "responsible adults" even at the hands of school bullies as mentioned on another thread.

Care has to be taken that in giving society back the option of dishing out corporal punishment, you do not go back to the way some of our teachers dealt with things, using it as the only way they could control a class. There were others who the threat of it was just enough hard man or not, yes I was in the Cowdie too and I remember the rockets being sent to other teachers to be belted, I also remember some of those teachers refusing to belt when they heard what the "offence" was. (in one case a guy was threatened with the belt for persistently farting in class, hardly crime of the century. unsure.gif )

That said, I do believe that there comes a point when the only thing that will get the point across in some cases is physical punishment (or violence if that is how you want to class it!) Now although I don't think kids should be hung up by the ankles and have their feet beaten for just misbehaving - when it gets to a point where punishment excersises, exclusion and the threat of expulsion are having no effect, then after consultation with all guidance and department heads, parents and if need be the school board I would condone a good leathering. Especially in cases where other children have been severely affected by the actions of one or two who cannot be controlled.

Society is degenerating into a state where good people will be forced to do bad things to protect themselves and their own - is this how we want to live?

I sincerely believe that those who argue most vehemently against corporal punishment have issues of their own Yoda-but don't EVER expect them to admit it.

Have you ever sat in a crowded public place-a restaurant for example- and witnessed a brat taking one of those parental types to the cleaners-that's what it's come to.

I like your term 'good leathering'.

For what it's worth I have three grown up children-all in responsible occupations. One was never punished physically, and each of the other two received a good clattering across the backside ON ONE OCCASION.

Physical punishment shoud be seen as a last resort-an ultimate deterrent if you like, but the minute children are allowed to take over, their upbringing is destroyed.
mortonjag 2008-02-27 10:16:39
QUOTE(ton1 @ Feb 27 2008, 10:08 AM) [snapback]411350[/snapback]
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

I said supplements you eejit-not your 'sleepers'.
mortonjag 2008-02-27 10:26:00
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 27 2008, 10:21 AM) [snapback]411357[/snapback]
And I sincerely believe that you're a blithering old fool - doesn't necessarily mean that either of us are right.

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Well you only have the evidence of the bizarre postings of an anonymous Morton fan.

I have based my conclusion on a lifetime spent observing human behaviour and interraction, and the longer you keep 'banging your big drum' about this, the more convinced I become that you are a wee vulnerable soul at heart. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-27 10:28:20
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Feb 27 2008, 10:24 AM) [snapback]411359[/snapback]
im doing an HNC in web design, i'd gladly do it tongue.gif, gives me something on my CV lol

Fudgy Wudgy smudges.
mortonjag 2008-02-27 10:45:29
QUOTE(Yoda @ Feb 27 2008, 10:22 AM) [snapback]411358[/snapback]
Another poster mentioned that the belt did not stop the hardened neds, however I am willing to bet it prevented a few others from turning out that way. Obviously prison doesn't work as a deterrent for some, does that mean that we don't bother sending anybody because it won't work for the ones who "really need to be locked up"?

Our modern brainwashed society doesn't seem to acknowledge deterrence.

The Gorbals razor gangs were smashed when the authorities hardened up. Prior to the abolishment of hanging-experienced 'cons' were extremely careful not to carry lethal weapons (my father in law was Barlinnie Chaplain for ten years).

I'm convinced that most of the vehement 'antis' have a vested interest in propagating their views-often in the furtherance of career, or simply in justification of a job. That, in my opinion, is despicable, and it's a damned sight more common than is popularly imagined.

What do the Police think about corporal punishment? Oh but wait-we're not allowed to ask that sort of question because they're 'biased'.

Aye right-not nearly so biased as the sleekit anonymous beaurocrats, the self propagating waste of space that is social work, and the career bent law makers and politicians.
mortonjag 2008-02-27 10:53:47 The common cold, or Coryza, is a pretty harmless self limiting viral infection. There is no 'cure', though various proprietary medicines can ameliorate the symptoms.

It's quite true that lying down to it is of no great benefit. Equally true is the fact that if you work in close contact with others, you can share your misery with them by turning up at work. Oh and DON'T 'phone your doctor-he's not interested! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-27 10:57:19
QUOTE(big B @ Feb 27 2008, 10:45 AM) [snapback]411367[/snapback]
I work with a St Midden spporter he has also heard we have supposed to have purchased one of their stands I would imagine for the Wee Dublin End.

I hope you are a butcher to trade.
mortonjag 2008-02-27 11:06:46
QUOTE(cmdc @ Feb 27 2008, 10:59 AM) [snapback]411375[/snapback]
I don't think football is a particularly popular sport in Pakistan, not least of all because of the rival popularity of cricket.

Plenty of second and third generation Glaswegian 'Pakis', as they are happy to be called in most cases, attend Ibrox or Parkhead. Inverclyde is different.
mortonjag 2008-02-27 11:11:28
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Feb 27 2008, 11:07 AM) [snapback]411381[/snapback]
what?

Fudgy Wudgy smudges on yer CV
mortonjag 2008-02-27 11:14:54
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 27 2008, 11:12 AM) [snapback]411386[/snapback]
Lived on duck eggs on our first land in Australia 1966 to 1970.

We gave our neighbours our biggest drake for Christmas 1968.

They didn't have the heart to kill him.

They had a 5 acre dam - somewhat bigger than Walker's dam I imagine.

So, on Boxing Day, they bought him 6 ducks.

He had a great life.

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My Dad used to love goose eggs-well only one at a time. The yolk was much stronger than that of a hen's egg.
mortonjag 2008-02-27 11:19:03
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Feb 27 2008, 11:13 AM) [snapback]411387[/snapback]
whats a fudgy wudgy smudge?

Fudgy Wudgys are made by Mr Rae in his factory, and lovingly distributed for sale by his devoted band of fudge packers. I imagine if you offer your services you might get the odd 'freebie'.
mortonjag 2008-02-27 11:30:26
QUOTE(ton1 @ Feb 27 2008, 11:24 AM) [snapback]411397[/snapback]
I agree whats your problem with the club and chairman

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I take it you're a new reader as well as a new poster. I have NO problem with Mr Rae's Fudgy Wudgys. I don't normally indulge in cheap confectionery, but I once bought some from my local Asian friend. They are tasty, and IMHO good value for money. They might very well cause smudges if they came too close to ones CV.

Mr Rae makes exceedingly good Fudgy Wudgys.

Is that ok?
mortonjag 2008-02-28 06:33:41
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 27 2008, 07:33 PM) [snapback]411554[/snapback]
a p***k and a deranged moron take tea at cappielow every other week? (9)

TY-you are so kind-though the good Herald readers might need to be clued in to your obscure asterisks.

Salad of spring mutton minus topping. (8-3)
mortonjag 2008-02-28 06:35:38
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 27 2008, 09:32 PM) [snapback]411624[/snapback]
I do not. sad.gif
As I don't even believe in the term "racist" I would never use it for any serious purpose.

Do you have one?
mortonjag 2008-02-28 06:45:19
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 27 2008, 06:29 PM) [snapback]411513[/snapback]
What has been proven, and is a fact, is that most violent crime is perpetrated by those under the influence of alcohol.

Alcohol is, in real terms, far cheaper now that it's ever been. I was talking to my faither-in-law, who loves a wee dram of an evening, and he said when he was in a 20s he saved up all year for his ne'erday bottle of whisky. And a wee nip in the boozer was a once-a-month treat.

Maybe therefore a better way of reducing violent crime would be to look at reducing its availability and making it more expensive? Would anyone on here be prepared to pay more for their swally if it meant safer streets?

No, thought not. smile.gif

So instead of looking at dealing with the causes of the problem you're looking instead at dealing with the consequences of the problem. A wee bit arse for elbow, if you ask me.

...and would undoubtedly have personally birched any wee ned who stole it. It's well seen you're safe on the other side of the Channel-the most common catalyst to violent YOUNG neddery in this country is now drug abuse.
mortonjag 2008-02-28 06:50:09
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 27 2008, 08:04 PM) [snapback]411580[/snapback]
Christ Donga, fair play to you, that was a quality rant! wink.gif

It was NOT a rant-it was a personal account of behaviour which occurs regularly.

It also highlighted the assailant v. victim profile.

Only after justice is done for the victim, should any attempt be made to pander to the party who DELIBERATELY embarked on thuggery.
mortonjag 2008-02-28 06:56:14
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 27 2008, 08:42 PM) [snapback]411601[/snapback]
I agree completely, it's part of the British, Irish and Scandinavian culture to binge drink, especially at the weekends. Whereas in most other European countries the culture is to drink smaller quantities but more frequently.

However I honestly don't think you can change a culture. You can promote sensible and moderate drinking as much as you want, but it won't fundamentally change peoples drinking habits. And they in turn will pass that habit in to their children.

It's in our genes. :)

Addictive behaviour is genetic.

General social behaviour is a variable mix of nature and nurture, and can be changed. In 1970 more than 50% of doctors in Great Britain were smokers. The figure is now negligible.
mortonjag 2008-02-28 07:06:41
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 27 2008, 11:51 PM) [snapback]411749[/snapback]
As a self confessed user of illegal drugs I've yet to see any drug that brings out a violent reaction in the way alcohol can. People can become a lot of annoying things, arrogant, foolish, horny or whatever and everyone reacts to every drug (alcohol included) differently but it's the "Begbie" syndrome with a lot of a boozers. Wont go near anything illegal but are quite happy to get s***faced and violent. It's a very British system of values.

The most common cause of aggressive paranoia in this country is now UNQUESTIONABLY cannabis. A fairly large proportion of neds are on a mix of drugs and booze at any given time.

I don't dispute the right of individual posters to air views, but it's pretty clear that many 'haven't a clue' when it comes to reality.

The common good must come before the gratuitous urges of any member of society, and current laws are failing us.

Are the neds to win?

Birch them.
mortonjag 2008-02-28 07:21:13
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 27 2008, 09:46 PM) [snapback]411631[/snapback]
I'm not advocating community sentencing for knife crime at all, it can be as harsh or as lenient as people decide: but I don't see a harsh sentence acting as a deterrent though.
People who carry a knife must already be aware of the risks, and regardless or not of anyone else's view, many do carry a knife in self-protection.
I can't see them leaving something that makes them safe in a perverse sort of way - defensive measures like this are seen as more important than any potential punishment.
If the idea is to take irresponsible people off the streets for committing the crime then it can be set to correspond to this, according to personal feelings and legal opinion.
It shouldn't be seen though as a sure-fire way of reducing knife crime, apart from those who may reoffend upon release.

Tell me something son-as you always TALK a good game.

Do you have any intention of exposing yourself to life's realities in the near future, or will you tread the lily laden and sweetly scented path of politicians, law makers, and general do-gooders?

Just suppose a wee crazy gang started kniving our M.S.P's for kicks. Would the immediate attempts to change the laws be regarded as 'moral' behaviour?
mortonjag 2008-02-28 07:28:42
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 27 2008, 11:43 PM) [snapback]411745[/snapback]
So you have no problems with someone getting two years for not commiting a violent crime in any way? You think two years for just being stupid or trying to act the hard man is fair?

If twenty people who would never go on to commit a serious crime are put away for 2 years each that amounts to 40 years. Is saving one life worth taking away forty of other people's and ruining a good number of them for just being a numpty? There's no answer to that.

To throw a blanket over every single offence like that is dangerous and sets precedents. This is why we have Judges. You know the difference between an arsehole who's more than willing to carry a knife with the intention of using it or someone who's just trying to prove to his mate's that he's not a ****.

Look at the state of the prisons within American states that have the three strikes and you're out nonsense. People are facing life sentences for shop lifting and graffiti. If life imprisonment can't stop people from lifting a loaf of bread how is a two year sentence gonna stop people from carrying knives?

It's a nonsense.

Makes a good soundbite tho' and that's the main thing aint it?

The sentencing system in this country is still a lottery. Judges, by the very nature of their jobs, become very detached from the 'personalities' in cases. The law does its best but remains an ass.
mortonjag 2008-02-28 07:32:15
QUOTE(leyTON @ Feb 27 2008, 10:06 PM) [snapback]411643[/snapback]
after recent talk in the press, and the two other threads on caning youngsters and bringing a new law in, jsut thought id wonder what people thoguht about this
i for one am against

Was that the thread about birching brutal b*****ds?

The death penalty-as an ultimate deterrent AND an efficient way of removing recalcitrant scum is an excellent idea. Nobody will force you to watch the humane execution, though you may be granted permission to applaud quietly, if it was one of your loved ones life which was snuffed out by the beast on the scaffold.
mortonjag 2008-02-28 07:45:47
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 28 2008, 05:59 AM) [snapback]411767[/snapback]
Well, to carry on the secret signs and/or superstitions ...

I was 4 years old, walking up Newton Street with my granny McGregor to go to Galbraith's in Kelly Street, when without warning she dragged me across to the Academy side of Newton Street.

And then just as violently back again.

Any ideas ?

a clue - 1692

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Glencoe and King Billy spring to mind, though not in any particular order.
mortonjag 2008-02-28 08:48:53
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Feb 27 2008, 11:32 AM) [snapback]411404[/snapback]
im assuming their just fudge sweets then?

YES-what did you think they were-he also has lovely black striped balls which are a pure pleasure to sook.
mortonjag 2008-02-28 08:53:43
QUOTE(El gofer @ Feb 27 2008, 01:24 PM) [snapback]411439[/snapback]
So MJ, Deuchar's career choice limits him to working in Uk til when??

He is fortunate enough to be able to have two career options, I should imagine that he will not spend the rest of his life over there and will be back paying the humble tax payer before you know it!!

Aye right-wake up and smell the coffee.

He's doing nothing wrong-just choosing to practice in the States on the strength of a British medical education.

He IS a greedy b*****d, and he WON'T be back.
mortonjag 2008-02-28 09:01:30 it's pathetic by definition.
mortonjag 2008-02-28 09:11:16
QUOTE(NewTon @ Feb 28 2008, 09:09 AM) [snapback]411812[/snapback]
I will give that answer 8 out of 10.

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Massacres by culpable McGregors?
mortonjag 2008-02-28 12:21:08
QUOTE(edd @ Feb 28 2008, 11:57 AM) [snapback]411853[/snapback]
"spring mutton" minus "topping" (ie. first letter) = pring mutton

rearrange the letters to get ... trumpington

hurray! smile.gif

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mortonjag 2008-02-28 12:30:41
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Feb 28 2008, 11:38 AM) [snapback]411848[/snapback]
Listening to the spokesman for GP’s on BBC Breakfast News this morning I was interested to hear his reasoning for the £100K+ salaries (with less hours). Apparently, over the last three years GP’s have had to work harder than their predecessors and also in that time needed to become more knowledgeable. Looks like they must have got rid of the “charlie-tans” tongue.gif . Just a pity we couldn’t have got Fidel here in the 50’s.

I have often listened to this 'old chestnut' my good friend. GP's shouldn't be bothering trying to justify their existences to fools who haven't a clue about the realities of practice. wink.gif

mortonjag 2008-02-28 12:43:05
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Feb 28 2008, 12:34 PM) [snapback]411865[/snapback]
Says the man with a monkey as a best friend!!!!!!

The monkey is a retired air traffic controller.
mortonjag 2008-02-28 13:21:07
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 28 2008, 12:48 PM) [snapback]411869[/snapback]
does he know flight_ton?

I doubt it-he was head of ATC at Heathrow, but only paid peanuts!
mortonjag 2008-02-28 13:24:49
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 28 2008, 12:53 PM) [snapback]411870[/snapback]
....whit?!?!?! blink.gif

Whit the man said Puggs.

Try this to get started


Bond formed by beheaded bunion
mortonjag 2008-02-28 13:32:19 Jim has stagnated under the previous manager, and the fee we'd get would reflect that.

If he starts scoring and winning MOTM awards week after week, the price will soon be hiked.
mortonjag 2008-02-28 13:36:22
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Feb 28 2008, 01:28 PM) [snapback]411880[/snapback]
Darwinian man, though well behaved, is no more than a monkey shaved.

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Excellent-back to the jungle and natural justice folks-where will we start-who hurts us most-I'll go for the politicians.We shall cook them all in a large pot and feed the hungry.
mortonjag 2008-02-28 13:57:16
QUOTE(edd @ Feb 28 2008, 01:42 PM) [snapback]411885[/snapback]
too easy ...

i'm just getting started with cryptic crosswords, just trying the mirror one online: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/crosswords/20...89520-20333730/

it's really simple, but i can't get these ones:

6 down: "Cook pie to heal an advocate of luxury (9)" - _e_t_o_e_
7 down: "He ruined the ship (9)" - ___c_r_a_
8 across: "looks to quietly seep out (5)" - __eps (the answer better not be "seeps", cos that would just be rubbish)

edit: i think 8 across might be "peeps", any thoughts? that would make 7 down _p_c_r_a_ ...

epicurean and peeps

still puzzled by the 'ship' one!

Got it---destroyer
mortonjag 2008-02-28 14:18:55
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 28 2008, 02:03 PM) [snapback]411893[/snapback]
When I read the thread title I thought this was about sat navs...

Sometimes the apostrophe IS useful!
mortonjag 2008-02-28 16:29:28
QUOTE(edd @ Feb 28 2008, 03:47 PM) [snapback]411911[/snapback]
oh yeah - i got the letters for 6 and 7 down the wrong way round: "_e_t_o_e_" went with 7 down, "_p_c_r_a_" went with 6 down ...

cheers mortonjag smile.gif
so "Cook pie to heal an advocate of luxury" means:
1. "cook pie" - rearrange the letters of pie to get "epi"
2. "to heal" - find a word that means "heal", ie. "cure"
3. "an" - add "an" to the end of it, hence "epicurean", and an epicurean is an advocate of luxury.

that about right?

the destroyer one is just a double-meaning clue, think of a word that means "someone who ruins something" and is also a type of ship ... while "p" is the musical abbreviation meaning "quietly", so add that to "seep", rearrange the letters to find a word that means "to look", hence "peeps" ... is that how those ones work?

while i was doing the crossword often i'd see a word that fitted and then notice that it fitted in with the clue, is that how these things often pan out?

You've worked them out Edd.

I guess crosswords are a matter of taste. I hate the ones where you see the correct answer first, and then have to work out why the clue fits.

The most enjoyable ones are those which leave you with a wee smile at the compiler's wit, even if you've wanted to strangle him for the previous half hour!
mortonjag 2008-02-28 16:32:07
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 28 2008, 03:43 PM) [snapback]411910[/snapback]
..but incorrect. I think the correct way to write it is GPs. An apostrophe indicates an omitted letter or a possessive noun.

I was thinking of G.Ps.' salaries! Too many crosswords.
mortonjag 2008-02-28 16:37:18
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Feb 28 2008, 04:09 PM) [snapback]411915[/snapback]
First of all let me state that I'm completely against state-sponsored murder or sorry the 'death penalty'. While I understand the need for lethal force in certain circumstances (war, stopping someone in the act of perpetrating a terrorist action) and on a case by case basis I can condone euthanasia, I cannot accept that is morally correct nor understand how (other than the short term eurphoria of vengence) it can aliviate suffering. I really enjoyed watching Michael Portillo's Horizon documentary - How to Kill a Human Being - and the many issues that surround the death penalty. And while at the end of the day hypoxia appears to be possibly the most humane form of execution, for advocates of the death penalty it appears it's just not brutal enough!

And before anyone says but you're a lily-livered PC liberal, I do believe life imprisonment should mean life, and not just sitting about watching TV and playing cards. Put them to work (sorting recyclable material for example also benefits society) even if there is no purpose to what they are doing (moving piles of rock from one location to another). Sure look after their basic necessities, but even luxuries like TVs should not be in prison - no wonder there are so many reoffenders - life's better on the inside.

ScotinBelgie

What a load of unadulterated s***e Robert. The only difference between a humane execution and going under a general anaesthetic is waking up from the latter-well usually.

You're too bloody squeamish to humanely put a sick animal 'to sleep', but you'll happily incarcerate it in misery for forty or fifty years at public expense.

That's plain bonkers.
mortonjag 2008-02-28 17:06:25
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Feb 28 2008, 04:50 PM) [snapback]411926[/snapback]
I agree with all of that.

I see-you're quite happy to kill another human being just because you disagree with his behaviour (war/terrorism) on the basis that YOU THINK you are correct, but you'd spare the life of somebody whom you WITNESSED brutally murdering your daughter in cold blood?????

Some very ambivalent morality floating about Europe those days.

Crazy mixed up kids!
mortonjag 2008-02-28 18:05:03
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Feb 28 2008, 05:31 PM) [snapback]411944[/snapback]
MJ the semiotic trickster. It certainly isn't apathetic.

No-just pathetic! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-28 18:07:16
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 28 2008, 05:15 PM) [snapback]411931[/snapback]
Seriously auld yin, I'm getting really worried about you.

Are you sure you're OK?

Don't you worry yourself-more qualified folk than you are keeping a watchful eye on this 'auld yin'!
mortonjag 2008-02-28 18:12:42
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Feb 28 2008, 05:35 PM) [snapback]411947[/snapback]
certain circumstances, where force is the last resort. I think that's pretty simple. Doesn't always work out, see afghanistan et al.

Whereas you are quite happy to top someone, whether they did or not. Just because you think they might have done it.

Some very ambivalent morality floating about Europe those days.

Crazy mixed up pensioners!

I did not say or suggest that.

It seems quite simple to me-you see killing a fellow human as justified under your set of rules, but you object to the humane termination of the life of a PROVEN murderer.

mortonjag 2008-02-28 18:18:04
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 28 2008, 05:38 PM) [snapback]411950[/snapback]
As I said and Mortonjag has clearly ignored, there have been far too many cases when "criminals" on death row have had their convictions quashed, due to mistakes or new evidence.
The week's research just strengthens the case that at least 99% of the Sun's online voters are c*nts.
The big question of course is: Has Mortonjag actually been replaced by Trevor Kavanagh? unsure.gif tongue.gif

The burden of proof is always on the prosecution.If a case has been materially weakened by 'new evidence' that does not suddenly define innocence. You're just shooting yourself in the foot there. Clearly huge steps are taken NOT to execute without conclusive proof.

...and will you be the first namby pamby to admit he IS for the death penalty if somebody slays his dearly beloved in cold blood, or will you be rushing to find him a counsellor and social worker?
mortonjag 2008-02-28 18:32:53
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 28 2008, 06:23 PM) [snapback]411969[/snapback]
Life for a life is not the way to go about justice in my opinion.

It is too risky to have someone be killed then later proven to be innocent, even if there is a shred of doubt that someone may have not done the crime surely the death sentence cannot be carried out!

In this day and age of technology you would think it would be easier than ever to prove someone carried out a crime but if anything it is just adding more doubts.

Keep them in for life on the minimals to survive is a far better option in my mind.

And regardless, short of a dictator coming in, the death penalty will never return!

I agree with the principle but not the practicality Puggs. I am in favour of exterminating proven menaces to society. How often has true doubt existed in the convictions of serial mass murderers. Most homicides in this country are committed in a domestic situation by first offenders. Often, but not always they plead guilty to a diminished charge.

I'm STILL waiting for the first piece of honesty from the lily livered. I'll ask the question again. If there was overwhelming proof-including that of your own eyes-that somebody had brutally and gratuitously murdered your most dear friend, and you were offered the option to sanction his humane execution-what would the response be?
mortonjag 2008-02-28 18:34:51
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Feb 28 2008, 05:47 PM) [snapback]411952[/snapback]
Does Campbell St go all the way up to Newton Street?

Or were you avoided Mr Campbell who, if memory serves, was the rector of the Academy?

He hadn't even started teaching in Paisley Grammar when Newt was a nipper Mr Bam!
mortonjag 2008-02-28 18:38:34 That sounds like a cat fight well worth missing-will George be putting on his poosy suit BTW?
mortonjag 2008-02-28 18:50:47
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 28 2008, 05:42 PM) [snapback]411951[/snapback]
I think its you who's in cloud cuckoo land.
I have lived on a sink estate and I have been threatened with a knife, so its fair to say I have a reasonable amount of persoanl experience on the matter.
Of course, its all fine and well for you to make up fictitious scenarios when in reality you do not have a clue about the situation.

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Aye right son-I've seen more stabbings than you've had hot dinners-AND had to give professional evidence in the High Court in a couple of cases.

The first one I saw, by strange coincidence, was in the old Greenock Royal Infirmary, where I was working my holidays from Medical School. I still remember thinking it was strange that it had happened at a 'Party'.

I'm not sure what you mean by a 'sink estate', but I doubt if you've ever experienced the sort of living conditions we had-that was BEFORE we moved to the Council house in Bardrainney. I know Easterhouse, Drumchapel, Castlemilk, Pollok, Possil, Barrowfield etc., extremely well, having fearlessly climbed up dingy and dark closes at all hours of night to tend the sick and less sick.

I have done my stint as prison Medical officer at Glenochil.

Say what you like about me son-but don't call my experience in question. If necessary I can PROVE mine-and aye-birch the little b*****ds within an inch of their lives if necessary.
mortonjag 2008-02-28 18:58:14
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 28 2008, 06:41 PM) [snapback]411986[/snapback]
No, I oppose the death penalty no matter who the victim is.
Life imprisonment is sufficient punishment.
Just because you're an auld right-wing demented c*nt who wants to return the world back to the good old days of the 1940s (see, there were NO bad people back then) doesn't mean we all are.

You appear to be an intelligent young fool. You will learn through experience I imagine. Clearly you have absolutely no grasp of the cataclysmic volte face often demonstrated when theorists like yourself are faced with stark reality.

If somebody murdered yer Mammy in cold blood Son-you'd be right in there-believe me.
mortonjag 2008-02-28 18:59:39
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 28 2008, 06:44 PM) [snapback]411988[/snapback]
I'm delighted to hear it auld yin.

It's just that your postings are becoming more bizarre and erratic by the day and I was worried about your wellbeing, that's all.

Stay happy. smile.gif

It could of course be the interpretation which has gone somewhat awry!
mortonjag 2008-02-28 19:01:46
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Feb 28 2008, 06:47 PM) [snapback]411989[/snapback]
Personally I doubt I would. I hope hope he rots for the rest of his life. I just don't think I could wish death on any other human...but that's just me.

Puggs I respect that-you've said what you 'think' you would do, unlike Vikington who'd make the murderer a cup of tea before helping him to mop up and conceal the body.
mortonjag 2008-02-28 19:05:06
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 28 2008, 06:58 PM) [snapback]411992[/snapback]
I called your sanity into question, not your experience. tongue.gif

Really!!!

You said this:

Of course, its all fine and well for you to make up fictitious scenarios when in reality you do not have a clue about the situation.

And YOU called MY sanity in question. Away and read more books son-you'll always find somebody to hang on your last word. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-28 19:06:57
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 28 2008, 06:59 PM) [snapback]411994[/snapback]
I think I'll pass on listening to people who wish death on other human beings. smile.gif

I accept your concession of defeat.
mortonjag 2008-02-28 19:10:54
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 28 2008, 07:07 PM) [snapback]412001[/snapback]
I was referring to my own situation, that i had mentioned specifically in the context to your quote. blink.gif
Of which you had absolutely no idea about, but took the opportunity to make the most ridiculously incorrect presumptions anyway.
Really!!!
I think I was right for a change. unsure.gif

Does your written English always deteriorate so badly when you get upset Son?
mortonjag 2008-02-28 19:20:06
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 28 2008, 07:14 PM) [snapback]412008[/snapback]
Care to answer the point rather than skip around it?
For the record, three exclamation marks (which you started and I copied in jest) would make any good English teacher's eyes bleed.
Let the language emphasise the point, not silly wee signs. smile.gif

If I choose to ejaculate thrice in emphasis young man, that's just what I'll do.

You didn't make a point so far as I could see-just stated that somebody had threatened you with a knife on an estate somewhere. What happened next-DON'T TELL ME-you sat down and talked him gently out of it over the course of forty five minutes. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif More likely you can run even faster than you post puerile nonsense.
mortonjag 2008-02-28 19:25:04
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Feb 28 2008, 07:23 PM) [snapback]412013[/snapback]
I can assure you that's not the case. tongue.gif
Let's see, I guess that'll be one of "life's realities" that I guess I've missed due to my very protective upbringing - aye, that rings a bell.
Section for Mortonjag. huh.gif

unsure.gif

Ah Vikington's NOT a pacifist at all-he's a closet hard man! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-02-28 19:29:34
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 28 2008, 07:24 PM) [snapback]412016[/snapback]
I don't know, you show a bit of friendly concern for a fellow Ton fan's health and all you get is nippy and sarcastic replies. rolleyes.gif

No but, all joking aside, take it easy eh.

Maybe I'm taking it too easy CHC-guess I could go back out to work for all that filthy lucre that isn't deserved, but I'm more than contented with my wee family, my sanity, and my daily conversations with the Monkey.
mortonjag 2008-02-29 08:37:56
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 28 2008, 08:33 PM) [snapback]412087[/snapback]
That includes 1min 29secs for the post coital ciggy though.

I expect. It's got to.

Are YOU feeling all right-I worry about your unhealthy obsession with sexual connotation?
mortonjag 2008-02-29 08:40:20 Blu tack is one of the most disgustingly over rated products I've never used.
mortonjag 2008-02-29 08:42:23
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Feb 28 2008, 10:29 PM) [snapback]412147[/snapback]
Aye right! tongue.gif

I like your flower.
mortonjag 2008-02-29 08:47:17
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 28 2008, 07:53 PM) [snapback]412033[/snapback]
The SNP government scrapped the endowment charge currently paid by Scottish students after they graduate.

Labour MSPs and the Conservatives voted against abolition mad.gif

"Access to university should be based on ability to learn, not ability to pay"

Fiona Hyslop
Education Secretary

Well done that woman-the tax payer may make up the deficit of course-I don't have a problem with that-more than likely, though, they'll just let underfunding of further education go from bad to worse.
mortonjag 2008-02-29 08:54:21
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 29 2008, 02:31 AM) [snapback]412185[/snapback]
The long term effects of cannabis use are still being debated. I'm not a user myself but I agree paranoia is clearly one of the major side effects going on personal and anecdotal experience.

However I've yet to see someone stoned act aggressive. It's almost impossible.

Paranoia can persist for lengthy periods after the drug has been stopped or withdrawn. In many cases it has been so severe that an initial diagnosis of primary paranoid schizophrenia has been made.

Primary paranoid schizophrenia is historically the commonest disorder resulting in admission to State Mental Hospitals.
mortonjag 2008-02-29 08:58:42
QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Feb 28 2008, 11:14 PM) [snapback]412160[/snapback]
Why is it too long redsox? I really think anyone carrying a knife without good reason (or some kind of permit) i.e. chef, carpet fitter etc. should be locked up for 2 years at least. You may get the odd case of some bam carrying a knife about at silly'o'clock in the morning, steaming, because they use it for their day job. Cases like this can go to a judge, sense will prevail and these people would be jailed an all,
Once again you use the word 'son' when you get upset, as your last resort to patronise someone.

Don't be silly Dad-that child is literally young enough to be my grandson, and he should think himself damned lucky to have my patronage and wisdom at his disposal. Is that OK with you Uncle Fester?
mortonjag 2008-02-29 09:06:25
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 29 2008, 02:34 AM) [snapback]412186[/snapback]
I want to know why MortonJag goes on about his own life experiences as proof of his own theories as he's "clearly" older and wiser. He's saw more stabbings/fights/clam bakes than the rest of us and that's all the proof he needs

Whereas when his anecdotal evidence is betrayed by a common experience as shown in statistic and facts based on a wider population, rather than is own miniscule experiences, it's a pile of s***e.

Of course I don't expect MJ to answer this in a straightforward manner but look forward to his dodging of the question and his reply being the literary equivalent of rubbing my head and calling me a "whippersnapper"

That is the usual pathetically puerile and squirming response of a brat who thinks he knows more than somebody three times his age and with a wealth of life experience.

Ye canny teach yer Granny tae suck eggs SON-and sooner or later that truth may dawn.


mortonjag 2008-02-29 09:10:00
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 28 2008, 06:27 PM) [snapback]411974[/snapback]
We've had this discussion before MJ.

The justice system simply doesn't work like that. It's very black and white, If you're found guilty, then by definition you're 100% guilty and if you're found not guilty then by definition you're 100% innocent.

There are no measurable levels of 'probability of guilt' that you can use to determine if the death penalty should be applied or not.

It is absolutely certain that if the death penalty was re-introduced for murder then some innocent people would be hung, as happened in the past.

No it is NOT absolutely certain, though I concur that it's highly probable.

It is ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN that if the death penalty were re-introduced some innocent people would not be murdered.
mortonjag 2008-02-29 09:14:12
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Feb 28 2008, 07:28 PM) [snapback]412020[/snapback]
You did in an earlier post.

Enough of the sophistry. Certain circumstances can include self-defence. But enough people "proven" of crimes later turn out to be innocent.

I disapprove of state sanctioned cold blooded killing. Is that clear enough for you. And for criminals, life should mean life. And I say that having lived in at least two countries that had the death penalty. And equally corrupt coppers.

Clear as mud Sir.

War IS state sanctioned cold blooded killing-hadn't you noticed?
mortonjag 2008-02-29 09:21:19
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Feb 28 2008, 07:56 PM) [snapback]412034[/snapback]
Sorry MJ but I can't accept your thoughts on this one. I said lethal force was acceptable under certain circumstances and that would include trying to stop^someone brutally murder my dearest friend in front of me - whether I would survive to tell the tale would be extremely doubtful and under under your kangeroo court I'd recieve the death penalty anyway.

Am I saying that in those specific circumstances would I ask for the death penalty, in all honesty I probably would. But as I also said apart from the fleeting joy from sating my vengence what suffering have I aliviated, none!

Thankfully that is why our law making decisions needs to be deliberated in the cold light of day and made as impassionately as possible. Otherwise you might as well throw the rule book out the window.

ScotinBelgie

Or put more succinctly-f*ck the victim-he's dead anyway and we can't bring him back-it's this poor tortured soul who needs consideration.

If somebody murdered my best friend in cold blood in front of my eyes and I had the privilege of legally exterminating him, I'm sure the memory of the thrill and pleasure would last for the rest of my life.

For me at least it arouses stronger emotions than being beaten by 'The Midden'.

Then again I'm just an uncomplicated old soul who was brought up in the days when accountability meant telling the truth.
mortonjag 2008-02-29 09:29:15
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Feb 29 2008, 02:38 AM) [snapback]412187[/snapback]
My response would be "f*** the humane execution. Let me kick them in the balls until they die" and I would feel my response was reasoned. However no-one who sees their friend brutally and gratuitously murdered is in any fit state to dish out law. f*** it. Let's get rid of the polis and bring in vigalante justice? You're a f***ing idiot.

There are reasons we have laws, courts, judges, juries, etc. If you're honestly gonna act so f***ing pig ignorant then you deserce the ridicule you receive on this forum.

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Would they be similar reasons to those for wanting zero tolerance for all knife carrying?

Laws are NOT made in a vacuum by robots-they are supposed to uphold the general good-to protect generally held value systems, and to improve the quality and safety of life.

Unfortunately lawmaking is frequently tainted by input from clowns with warped political agenda.

If a referendum on capital punishment was held today I believe the true feelings of the people would emerge.

Finally SON, I am NOT an idiot-nor at this moment am I f*cking.
mortonjag 2008-02-29 09:35:27
QUOTE(forzaton @ Feb 29 2008, 08:34 AM) [snapback]412197[/snapback]
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probs another 8 pager
the reactionary brigade are sharpening their rapier wits as we speak by reading the daily mail this morning whilst frothing about the state of good old blighty

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Whilst our more enlightened posters are trying to get rid of their passports on e-Bay.
mortonjag 2008-02-29 09:37:58
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 29 2008, 08:43 AM) [snapback]412201[/snapback]
Nah, surely that must be Prozac. tongue.gif

Don't be daft-I have prescribed fluoxetine for many of my patients-an excellent preparation if used with discrimination.
mortonjag 2008-02-29 09:42:22
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 29 2008, 09:10 AM) [snapback]412217[/snapback]
MJ it can't be good for the old ticker being so angry all the time.

Take a Prozac and have a wee lie down. smile.gif

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ANGRY-I'LL F*CKIN' ANGRY YOU-I'M VERY VERY CALM mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif

GET IT?


PS-You are correct-I should know much better than to let those ignorant young whippersnappers get under my skin.

I've taken three Prozac and the Monkey is giving me a big cuddle. Normal service will be resumed as soon as possible.
mortonjag 2008-02-29 09:43:43
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 29 2008, 08:47 AM) [snapback]412207[/snapback]
I thought QT was pretty bland last night - largely because the questions, which are vetted by the BBC, were so tired and predictable. Coming from Scotland, it would have sparked things off a bit if there had been some interesting and heated debate, but no, the predictable stuff about "Should Harry be sent home" etc, could have been Surrey. I enjoy George Galloway as entertainment, but he doesn't half like the sounnd of his own voice, and he seemed to be asked to speak first at nearly every question.

Nicola Sturgeon talks sense about most things, Annabel Goldie surprisingly does too and obviously isn't one to toe the party line too closely, Nicol Stephen is surely a new brand of sleeping pill, and Cathy Jamieson is pointless - like Wendy but blonder.

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mortonjag 2008-02-29 09:45:09
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Feb 29 2008, 09:04 AM) [snapback]412214[/snapback]
QT has been absolute cack for ages. I thought too coming from Scotland the questions could have diversified from the normal UK blandness.
But David Dumblebore would have none of it. Galloway was good, Sturgeon kept her answers sensible, Goldie got into a wee bit of a panic with one particular question. Steven was boring, and Jaimieson was completely out of touch, just like her party.

Nice to hear she's learning.
mortonjag 2008-02-29 09:47:06
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 29 2008, 08:50 AM) [snapback]412208[/snapback]
Has the funding of further education not just increased by more than in any recent previous year? Despite what the (well-known Labour supporter) Dundee Uni principal was thrying to imply.

Alibi-I have a personal interest in this-at the last count that was certainly not the case, but I will check with my source tomorrow and let you know.
mortonjag 2008-02-29 09:50:36
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Feb 29 2008, 08:45 AM) [snapback]412205[/snapback]
I'm with Alibi on this one - on both counts tongue.gif

Where's your avatar, dear Trumpet?
mortonjag 2008-02-29 09:52:44
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Feb 29 2008, 08:45 AM) [snapback]412204[/snapback]
Ach, take another Prozac and have a wee lie down auld yin. rolleyes.gif

Don't be daft-if I keep pumping Prozac in at the rate you've been suggesting I'll soon be upside your sexual fantasies.
mortonjag 2008-02-29 09:56:29
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Feb 29 2008, 06:45 AM) [snapback]412191[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-03-04 09:14:37
QUOTE(Alibi @ Feb 29 2008, 11:59 AM) [snapback]412269[/snapback]
I'm sure figures were quoted and it was a tiny percentage more this year than last - something like 3.18% vs 3.15% - but an increase nevertheless.

Latest funding due to be announced in the middle of this month is likely to be up by a mere 1.5 %. That is a shortfall.

In addition, English Universities still reap an unfair advantage with tuition fees , while the Scots have to compete for staff at Nationally determined pay levels.

The message is loud and clear from those in the know. Our Universities are worse off than before. I find that singularly sad-a Scottish Further Education was once envied worldwide, yet it seems the SNP don't give a f*ck.

All politics is scum.
mortonjag 2008-03-04 13:05:48
QUOTE(big B @ Mar 3 2008, 12:09 PM) [snapback]413612[/snapback]
Well Dougie never fails I have just read his comments in Saturday's programme only he could give an apology to the fans and then have a cheap jibe at them in the same article. He states that it was only a minority of home fans that he was having a go at that were getting on the players and Jim McInally's back.

Well why I may agree about the players getting abuse by the minority of fans it was the MAJORITY that wanted rid of McInally maybe if Dougie had acted before Christmas and sacked McInally we would not be in the postion we are in at the moment as most fans had lost confidence in the manager.

I haven't seen Saturday's programme.

What I DO seem to recall very clearly is that Mr Rae was wheeling out statistics in a previous edition of 'Shoogly Peg' to PROVE that the bad nasty wicked and misguided home support was MAKING the team lose at Cappielow, as distinct from the angels who travel to away games (and presumably visit the sick on home match days).

So the old fart has given a back handed apology has he-well WHOOPY f***IN' DOO-and to the VERY SMALL MINORITY wink.gif wink.gif to whom it's apparently directed-lap it up-the next one will be a long time comin'!
mortonjag 2008-03-04 16:07:39 Interestingly, the accounts to December 31, 2005 for Heartshape Ltd, whose group activities include insurance broking, credit management, property development and building services, show a loss of £1.883 million and a balance sheet deficiency of £1.617 million. This raises serious questions over Heartshape�€™s solvency, particularly when they are due so much money from Gretna. The accounts to December 31, 2006 for Heartshape should have been lodged by October but were not. The auditors resigned in January 2008.

Mileson was, is, and always will be a chancer.
mortonjag 2008-03-04 16:10:29
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 4 2008, 02:25 PM) [snapback]414176[/snapback]
I bet you creamed your pants when you saw a thread called " Dougie Rae " that wasnt started by you tongue.gif

Not at all!

Mortonjag has been somewhat indisposed for a while, but his little helpers will always be on hand when needed.
mortonjag 2008-03-04 16:19:31
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 4 2008, 04:06 PM) [snapback]414220[/snapback]
The very good work continues with this SNP government.

Child cancer care units retained

Cancer services for children will be "retained and enhanced" in Aberdeen, Edinburgh, Glasgow and Dundee, Health Secretary Nicola Sturgeon has said

Ms Sturgeon said: "I realise there has been a great deal of uncertainty over children's cancer services in Scotland and I can now remove any doubts."

"Fighting cancer is a traumatic enough experience for any child, without having to travel hundreds of miles for treatment Said Mike Rumbles

Sometimes you really DO come over as a CLOWN bannock baws.

You started a thread about your wonderful SNP and our once proud Scottish Universities- which are currently being UNFERFUNDED by them-sold down the river if you like.

Have you no shame? Instead of arguing your point on that issue-if indeed you really have one, you highlight another piece of that pathetic little creep's spin. What did you expect her to say-they woud be scrapped? dry.gif dry.gif dry.gif dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-04 16:36:03
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 4 2008, 04:25 PM) [snapback]414225[/snapback]
Don't see why Raydale was good enough for our "big" support in the 2nd and 3rd or why Partick's away support were well accomodated in the 2nd as well but it's not big enough for our support in the 1st.

It's quite simple-Pony Tail has been well exposed for the charlatan he always was.

It was easy for lazy hacks to promote 'Living the Dream' when it suited them.

Now that the 'Born again Christian's financial habits are looking somewhat heathen, patience has rapidly worn thin.
mortonjag 2008-03-05 08:53:40
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 4 2008, 04:58 PM) [snapback]414257[/snapback]
Well when the Labour/Lib-Dem administration was in government hospitals and units were going to get closed. So she may have well closed these units like the previous administration. But she didn't !

Why is your venom directed at the SNP ? They can only spend a certain part of a budget on hospitals and Uni's. A budget they get from Westminster. Perhaps your venomous posts are directed at the wrong people.

My 'venom' as you describe it is directed at ALL politicians-it just so happens that we have your clown party in at the moment.

Clearly you believe the Scottish universities are doing 'just dandy' Spurtle, -in fact you appear to believe everything is 'just dandy' under this bunch of female nappy rashers paying lip service to a 'Big Jessie'.
mortonjag 2008-03-05 08:56:38
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 4 2008, 05:24 PM) [snapback]414294[/snapback]
I agree universities are underfunded, but you can hardly put the blame for that at the door of a government that's only been in power for 9 months and who have no control over revenue.

Just out of interest, from which other budget would you take the money from to increase the funding for universities?

Utter nonsense, and you know it'
mortonjag 2008-03-05 09:06:08
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 5 2008, 08:15 AM) [snapback]414493[/snapback]
I can't even begin to image the horrors that the family of a murder victim must go through.

But that horror must be even worse for the family of an innocent person that's been executed for a crime (s)he didn't commit.

You blew your case the minute you attempted to justify killing in self defence (as in war).

How many innocent people have died in the last five minutes worldwide as a result of 'justifiable'action?

If human life is sacrosanct then fine, but stop making up the rules to suit yourself.

Just as in war-where the general good is perceived to come above all else- so should it be in dealing with 'beyond reasonable doubt' killers in my book.

You will still get miscarriages of justice. Humanity is imperfect in case you hadn't noticed.
mortonjag 2008-03-05 09:08:06
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 5 2008, 09:04 AM) [snapback]414502[/snapback]
How is it utter nonsense? Westminster decides how much pocket money to give to Holyrood. Holyrood just decides how to allocate it. What further finance can the SNP raise? We need full fiscal autonomy to allow things to improve from that controlled situation. In fact, we need independence.

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mortonjag 2008-03-05 09:17:18
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Mar 4 2008, 04:54 PM) [snapback]414252[/snapback]
You brought up Connery's opinion as part of your agenda. You clearly don't care what Sean Connery believes outside of his view on independence and you don't think it's important. Others see things differently and question why you would quote a self confessed supporter of domestic abuse as though he was some sort of asset to nationalism.

Do you have a problem with balance or are we to assume that you would happily quote Adolf Hitler, Joe Stalin, Harold Shipman (or any other odious p***k) so long as they supported independence?

Perhaps you should consider widening your agenda to take account of morality.

Indeed he evinced a most evil form of pricking, though was very kind to his wife.
mortonjag 2008-03-05 09:19:30
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Mar 5 2008, 09:16 AM) [snapback]414508[/snapback]
Moi! rolleyes.gif

I doubt that the SNP would welcome the Holy Father into their camp due to his views on the sinfulness of homosexual relationships, somehow they accomodate Soutar. ohmy.gif
Couldn't be anything to do with the money could it? ohmy.gif

After all Eck don't bend over for the money does he? Nobody would TRUMP the type of allegation. ohmy.gif

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All pigs in the same trough Mr Bam.
mortonjag 2008-03-05 09:28:42
QUOTE(Loveless @ Mar 4 2008, 07:11 PM) [snapback]414357[/snapback]
He came from a single parent family.

No surprise he turned out bad then.

Just what I was thinking-thae single parent families are mair bother than they're worth if you ask me.


Now children-are you sitting comfortably-then I'll begin.

I believe this case to be probably the most monstrous miscarriage of justice of all time. A clever, intelligent and devoted professional man with his whole life ahead of him chooses to kill a few old crumbles with insulin just because they don't smell too nice.

Get real-life's not like that-he's been stitched up for sure-and PLEASE, PLEASE let him out soon-his talents will be wasted in prison.


There again we could just top this evil piece of depravity and save ourselves a few bob.

Over to CHC! laugh.gif


Good gracious-has he just discovered that one of the victims was his long lost Granny? ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-05 09:58:36
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Mar 5 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]414518[/snapback]
So that's why I can't understand you arguing in favour of the death penalty. If we are imperfect then we shouldn't have systems in place to mitigate against that imperfection. Having a death penalty loses that course of mitigation.

And before you go off on one about PC liberalism - I think that life should mean life, that people carrying knifes need to have a bloody good reason for it or face incarceration, and that jail should not include access to things like TV unless it is for rehabilitation (i.e. education) or punishment (i.e. big brother or jeremy kyle).

I don't have too much difficulty with the concept of 'beyond reasonable doubt'.

Every now and again somebody may slip through the net (not necessarily a Saint, or even a particularly good man), but it's bound to happen on occasion, and I can entirely understand why many are too lily livered to go down that road-though I still contend that they'd be wanting to hack some b*****d's head off with their peace pipes if he'd just killed their loved ones in cold blood.
mortonjag 2008-03-05 10:01:33
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 5 2008, 08:55 AM) [snapback]414499[/snapback]
Quite agree, it's time we stopped being 'fiscally moronic' and wasting good money caring for old people. If they haven't got the dosh, let them rot, well maybe that's a bit harsh....... give them the jaggy needle to go big sleepy bye byes.
Vikington, you're not a nurse by any chance? :P

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mortonjag 2008-03-05 10:04:34
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 5 2008, 09:44 AM) [snapback]414515[/snapback]
Yup. Connery is an arse and does our nation a disservice. Eck is a chump if he doesn't realise this.

...and a bigger chump because he does but can't say no.
mortonjag 2008-03-05 10:09:21
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 5 2008, 09:48 AM) [snapback]414517[/snapback]
I don't really think Raydale is the main issue with Gretna being bad for Scottish football. Its the whole artificial nature of the club that I don't like and the fact that they paid inflated wages to hire football mercenaries (what else do you call someone prepared to drop from the SPL to the 2nd/3rd divisions?) who shafted clubs big time. Morton were one of the worst affected as they effectively postponed our promotion by a year through their unfair competition.

You have to add to that the fact that a lot of the money spent was not Brooks Mileson's. They have used creditors money and have huge unpaid bills all over the place especially in the South of Scotland.

And then there's the broken promises over development of the stadium but thats just a part of an overall nasty picture.

A few of us saw Mileson coming from afar.

The sycophantic fools who 'rubbished' us appear to have disappeared like snow off a dyke-BTW is that last comparison PC?
mortonjag 2008-03-05 10:20:22
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 5 2008, 10:13 AM) [snapback]414530[/snapback]
Aye, Scott is in the same category as Trump, albeit on a smaller scale. Just as crooked though.

I have believed for some time that more accountability should be available from those who 'buy over' football clubs.

I'm afraid I do not accept the theory that Abramovic, or Romanov, or Mileson, or even Rae for that matter can 'DO WHAT THEY LIKE' with the interests of thousands of loyal fans.
mortonjag 2008-03-05 10:25:03
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 5 2008, 09:53 AM) [snapback]414520[/snapback]
If you watch the video clips, it was'nt that bad a penalty. Yes the shot was a little weak but it was placed just inside the post and it was a great save by Hogarth. Any penalty that does'nt go in is a bad one but I've seen worse.

I do though agree with a policy thats says one miss and you are out as confidence with the next penalty must be affected.

Correct-if Hogarth had dived the other way, it would have read

Russell sent the goalie the wrong way before calmly stroking the ball just inside the opposite post.
mortonjag 2008-03-05 10:26:50
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 5 2008, 10:11 AM) [snapback]414529[/snapback]
If they slip through the knot, will you call it quits? tongue.gif

It's still a long drop DE!!
mortonjag 2008-03-05 10:32:58
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 5 2008, 10:23 AM) [snapback]414534[/snapback]
So what you're saying is that you're willing to accept that some innocent people will be executed, and that is a price worth paying.

Anyone else agree with him?

Unless I'm mistaken, you said you can get your head round murder provided it's in the context of 'self defence' as in war.

Please don't tell me it was TAFKAK or somebody else.

If the execution of one innocent person saves the lives of 1000 others of equal innocence-so be it-in fact I'd like to be one of those thousand, and you can be my saviour-if that's OK- or would you rather save your own skin and let the thousand innocents die? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-05 10:36:05
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 5 2008, 10:33 AM) [snapback]414545[/snapback]
Only on the general nonsense forum can you have 'fascist', the Pope and a 'gay ant' compared in one sentence. laugh.gif

Those of the homosexual workers alliance?
mortonjag 2008-03-05 10:53:55
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 5 2008, 10:44 AM) [snapback]414550[/snapback]
You are mistaken. I don't have a clue what you're wittering on about.
How does that work then? How would the execution of an innocent person save the life of even one other innocent person, let alone 1000.

Sorry MJ, I like having a lively debate as much as the next guy, but when you start come up with ridiculous unsubstantiated statements as 'facts' then it loses its point. Reasoned debate can only be conducted between rational people, and you're most certainly anything but a rational person, so for that reason I'll just let you witter on to your heart's content on this one and leave you to it.

What you mean is that 'reasoned debates' have to be played by your rules.

That is ENTIRELY different, as any rational person will agree.

Do I have to trawl through the mass of posts you've made to discover that one in which you said you accepted killing in self defence-as in war?

Oh-and in answer to your obtuse question, Mr Edwards has already cited a well known example.
mortonjag 2008-03-05 11:00:44
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 5 2008, 10:55 AM) [snapback]414552[/snapback]
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Come off it CHC. What's wrong with some unreasonable wittering now and again? It would be a dull old world if we were all as 'rational' as you. tongue.gif

But you miss the point Mr Edwards-the gentleman has taken it upon himself to believe that Mortonjag is mentally ill.

He may, of course, be correct, but I have told him more than once that my treatment is very effective.
mortonjag 2008-03-05 11:09:48
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 5 2008, 11:01 AM) [snapback]414556[/snapback]
Aye, you do just that.

It'll keep you busy for a while. rolleyes.gif

You are becoming irritable my friend-I may well have confused you with one of your fellow posters-may I be excused for that-after all, you DO all sing from the same hymn sheet!

So it's CHC the pacifist then-all killing is wrong-oh-or could it not just be-CHC the pragmatic and unprincipled clown who will say whatever he pleases for the sake of an argument?

If somebody kills your beloved, I assure you you'll be scurrying to the gallows as chief executioner faster those little Europins can carry you!
mortonjag 2008-03-05 15:53:50
QUOTE(simple_ton @ Mar 5 2008, 02:55 PM) [snapback]414627[/snapback]
I don't really think anyone's arguing with your point there, MJ - but the point is that if that happened to you, you would not be the correct person to be deciding what is or isn't just - if crimes were all to be dealt with based on the victim's emotions what is the point in having a justice system at all?

I agree entirely with that, while adding that if all crimes were dealt with on the basis of 'man's humanity to man' there would equally be no point in a justice system.

What really annoys me ST is the palpably 'holier than thou' doctrinaire which oozes from the mindless mouths of CHC et al.

That is why I believe it's legitimate to point out that if somebody killed his Mammy in cold blood, he'd happily go to the gallows to spare the life of a fellow man-and more importantly, to win a debating point! Such is the depth of his principle. dry.gif

mortonjag 2008-03-05 15:57:07
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 5 2008, 02:48 PM) [snapback]414621[/snapback]
No. tongue.gif
I haven't seen any vast improvement since the scheme was introduced that means it can't be reversed.
And the cost of it will continue to soar over successive generations, for not much of a return IMO.

Would you like some English tuition?

The Monkey's free at present. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-05 16:00:50
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 5 2008, 03:54 PM) [snapback]414639[/snapback]
You clearly don't seem to understand how the Scottish government is funded.

I believe the SNP minority government has done extremely well distributing the "pocket money" they receive from the Westminster government for the benefit of the people of Scotland.

Scrapping tolls, scrapping student fees, keeping hospitals marked for closure open etc. Things that were not going happen under the previous administration

But you can only stretch the "pocket money" so far.

The real shame of it all, is we send the money down to London that can be used to fund Universities and build the NHS into something to be proud of.
But those in London would rather use our money to fund illegal wars and build weapons of mass destruction costing literally £Billions.

So perhaps you should look at the BIG picture MJ before you accuse !

Oh I can see the big picture just fine Haggis Heid, and spending pocket money you haven't even got is indeed the behaviour of VERY immature children.

Back to the original point-our Universities are WORSE off under the SNP.

INCONTROVERTIBLE FACT.
mortonjag 2008-03-05 16:04:40
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Mar 5 2008, 01:50 PM) [snapback]414601[/snapback]
My point is that many in the SNP (apart from alibi) would regard the holy father's stance as homophobic.
The holy father's views on man lurve would be anathema to many in the SNP, they tolerate Soutar because of his dosh.

What are your views on cozying up to Soutar? unsure.gif

BTW I don't mean cozying up in a man lurve sorta way. smile.gif

He must still be working on the thesis.
mortonjag 2008-03-05 16:07:30
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Mar 5 2008, 12:42 PM) [snapback]414579[/snapback]
never mind body parts of executed criminals...i think body parts of all inmates who die in prison should be used for donor use!

What-even those who die innocent of any crime Thrax? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-05 16:08:31
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Mar 5 2008, 12:47 PM) [snapback]414581[/snapback]
I actually believe in the opt out Donor Scheme

Everyone should considered as a donor unless they feel strongly enough to opt out !

I don't.
mortonjag 2008-03-05 16:18:30
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Mar 5 2008, 04:10 PM) [snapback]414652[/snapback]
laugh.gif i was only kidden on tbh....but since u put it like that...YES

everyone who dies in prison get their giblets pulled out of them....prison guards included

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If only I had as much faith in those career minded transplant doctors as the rest of you.

What's this crap about having to 'opt out' of THEM owning my body?

ABSOLUTE TOSH.

I DO have principles you know, though I guess the chat up line-'Have you ever felt a serial rapist's Willy' might raise a few eyebrows.
mortonjag 2008-03-05 16:26:51
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 5 2008, 02:55 PM) [snapback]414626[/snapback]
That was ludicrous.

I successfully predicted all but one of the penalties last night based on who was taking them, and to a lesser extent the run-ups, and I usually get penalty predictions totally wrong.

Jimenez and his men want taken out and shot for that whole sorry debacle.

(I'm not a Sevilla fan but I like to see them do well as a strong Sevilla is good for Spanish football, so it pisses me off when they lose such a preventable game.)

Anyway, on topic... if Jamie Stevenson wasn't injured or whatever ,we wouldn't be having this conversation, as he's immense at penalties.

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Is this a spillover from the current debate on capital punishment?
mortonjag 2008-03-05 19:04:24
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 5 2008, 06:33 PM) [snapback]414700[/snapback]
He's too busy slevvering about executing anyone and everyone even remotely involved with crime.
And writing reading the Daily Mail. unsure.gif

I apologise 'UNRESERVEDLY'- followed in the very next sentence by-'I don't think my comments were out of place', and somewhat further on by a promise to choose his comments more carefully in future.

Now isn't that just oor AULD SHOOGLY!!!


G'on yersel ya old dreamer-ye'll NEVER change. laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-05 19:07:12
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 5 2008, 07:03 PM) [snapback]414711[/snapback]
I was on 'Songs of Praise' when I was 5.

That explains much.
mortonjag 2008-03-05 19:16:07
QUOTE(Yoda @ Mar 5 2008, 04:48 PM) [snapback]414665[/snapback]
I know the type of doctor you are speaking of, who would transplant a questionable organ or a good organ into a recipient for it to either be of no use or worse than the person had in the first place. There are so many factors and dangers in transplants not just rejection. I unfortunately have had dealings with one such surgeon an eminant "specialist" who's ego was writing cheques his knowledge and ability could not cash.

Yes it is not quite as cut and dried as opt out, there are other morals to be considered, such as would there be some career surgeons a bit too knife happy to wait to even ask the relatives or would they perhaps not try to locate them as quickly.
The current system we have does not bring forth enough organs to meet demand, what other alternative is there, at least with an opt out scheme those who need actually recieve and those who object strongly will opt out. The whole subject is a huge maze of opinion and I don't think a solution will ever come forward that everyone will be completely comfortable with.

It is indeed laughable that we have today got so worked up about the humane extermination of proven killers, yet are perfectly happy to place our lives in the hands of those wonderful transplant doctors with ne'er a doubting thought!!!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-05 19:17:34
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 5 2008, 05:06 PM) [snapback]414671[/snapback]
I think that the opt-out scheme is a basic infringement of rights - organs should be seen as yours until you choose to donate: it should be a gift, not an expectation.

Young man-you sometimes get it just right! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-05 19:18:49
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Mar 5 2008, 05:55 PM) [snapback]414682[/snapback]
Quite- though I would add that if anyone who had not opted in to the organ donation scheme suddenly needed a transplant they should be told to get tae f'ck. blink.gif
That is only fair.

If utterly illegal!
mortonjag 2008-03-05 19:24:50
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 5 2008, 07:16 PM) [snapback]414724[/snapback]
MJ mate, I suggest that you call your doctor first thing in the morning and tell him that the medication he's given you ain't working. rolleyes.gif

CHC 'mate' he'll need a note of your medical qualifications before he'll listen to a word you say.

Now-would you WANT to exterminate somebody for killing your best friend in cold blood? I would.

I hope that question can be taken to be perfectly unbiased and reasonable.
mortonjag 2008-03-05 19:29:21
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 5 2008, 07:13 PM) [snapback]414722[/snapback]
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Aye, it explains that my maw dragged me along to church when I was 5. rolleyes.gif

HA-but 'Songs of Praise' is NOT 'church' --it's a well known pig fest where you flout your good Christianity, cherubic five year old, and best bunnet on the telly.

As I said-much has been explained.
mortonjag 2008-03-05 19:35:40
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 5 2008, 04:39 PM) [snapback]414660[/snapback]
Alright Dr Doom. Who's at fault and what's the solution ?

I don't do politics Bannock Baws-that doesn't stop me from seeing when things are wrong.

mortonjag 2008-03-05 19:41:56
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 5 2008, 07:35 PM) [snapback]414736[/snapback]
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MJ you're as mad as a sack of ferrets but this board would be a much duller place without you. laugh.gif

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Shh-don't let the good Mr taig Bam hear this, but I almost literally wet myself watching the procession of tomfoolery making its way into Mearns Parish Church for 'Songs of Praise'.

CHRISTIANS-that lot-well thank f*ck I'm going elsewhere.
mortonjag 2008-03-05 19:45:37
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 5 2008, 07:35 PM) [snapback]414734[/snapback]
PM tried to arrange deal with Lib Dems to keep Salmond out

http://www.stv.tv/content/news/headline ... _t_2008030

Gordon Brown was so desperate to keep Alex Salmond from being First Minister he tried to cut a deal to keep him out of power. Sir Menzies Campbell, the former UK Lib Dem leader, reveals in his autobiography that the Prime Minister asked for two secret meetings with him to talk about forming a coalition, even if the SNP won the election.

Described as cloak and dagger, these meetings between the soon-to-be Prime Minister and Lib Dem leader to stop Alex Salmond becoming First Minister even if the SNP won the election are remarkable. During the campaign Gordon Brown had made it clear he would not work with Mr Salmond if he was elected.

But until now it was not known the lengths he would go to prevent the SNP taking power. In his autobiography Sir Menzies Campbell says Gordon Brown invited him to two secret meetings to discuss a third Labour-Lib Dem coalition Government to keep the SNP out of office even if the Nationalists won the election.

Menzies Campbell took the first call from Mr Brown here at his Edinburgh home on Easter Sunday. After the first meeting was cancelled Mr Campbell's wife Elspeth then arranged another one commenting to Gordon Brown that it was cloak and dagger stuff. The then Chancellor replied "Not too many daggers I hope". But evidently he had the knives out for the SNP.

The former Scottish Labour leader Jack McConnell says he did not know about these secret meeting but he always maintained the largest party after the election should be allowed to get first go at forming a government. A senior Labour source has also said that so desperate was Mr Brown to prevent Alex Salmond becoming First Minister, he proposed that Labour MSPs voted for Scottish Lib Dem leader Nicol Stephen to do the job.

The Prime Minister would not comment on today's revelations

Is it really worth your while constantly reminding us of the devious amorality of ALL POLITICIANS, Spurtle?

You don't REALLY believe in Mr Salmond any more than Santa Claus-DO YOU? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-05 19:49:55
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 5 2008, 07:38 PM) [snapback]414737[/snapback]
I'm up for it.

Provided there is no sex involved, I will happily meet with Mr Rae.
mortonjag 2008-03-05 20:37:01
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 5 2008, 07:52 PM) [snapback]414745[/snapback]
but thats what we're all waiting for. we might aswell just all give up now.

no point in supporting Morton anymore, we're not gonna get what we came for.

So you want to see Auld Shoogly shafted-is that it?
mortonjag 2008-03-05 20:39:20
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 5 2008, 07:54 PM) [snapback]414746[/snapback]
Here's one Dr Midtons made earlier.
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Bit of the Jimbo/Spoonsy/Kev in that face!
mortonjag 2008-03-05 20:41:25
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Mar 5 2008, 08:05 PM) [snapback]414756[/snapback]
St Kilda is the place for them, just keep filling up ships and coup them in the watter 100 yds from the shores of St Kilda, if they make it then they would be more than welcome to see oot their days on that lovely island!

Ach-toss them all in a big mincer and make meatballs for the world's starving.
mortonjag 2008-03-05 20:46:07
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Mar 5 2008, 08:40 PM) [snapback]414767[/snapback]
What does that mean. Salmond is a pragmatist who would ahve got into bed with the libdems if he had to do so. It's what grown up politicians do to protect power. In what way is it crooked?

Bawheid is indeed a pragmatist-his marriage may even have been a tad pragmatic, though who am I to judge!

Show me an honest politician and I'll show you my Willy.
mortonjag 2008-03-05 20:48:28
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 5 2008, 08:36 PM) [snapback]414762[/snapback]
Of course you do. If you have an opinion on anything you 'do politics'.

Nonsense McArthur-don't start befuddling us with your opinions of definitions.
mortonjag 2008-03-05 20:53:50
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 5 2008, 08:42 PM) [snapback]414770[/snapback]
What he said.

TO SAVE US FROM OURSELVES!!!!!

You misunderstood my friends-it was that other murdering b*****d I intended to massacre-before he kills again-and again-and again.

How do we save ourselves from ourselves when we only have ourselves to do the saving?

Are we going to introduce the'Big man' into the argument at some point-aye I sense that a comin'---God said-thou shalt not kill, and if you do I'll f*ckin' murder you. laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-05 20:56:09
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 5 2008, 08:53 PM) [snapback]414779[/snapback]
And don't you add to the fuddle with your definition of opinions.

As the man with the peg leg said DE, it's a matter of a pinion.
mortonjag 2008-03-05 20:56:59
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Mar 5 2008, 08:48 PM) [snapback]414777[/snapback]
Promises, promises. But I think your genitalia are safe.

....and my Willy?
mortonjag 2008-03-05 21:00:15 You really are dirty young boys-I imagine you'll be wanting it done with full symbolism in the shape of a giant Fudgy Wudgy.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 08:36:03
QUOTE(dmc @ Mar 5 2008, 10:29 PM) [snapback]414819[/snapback]
You could be on to something there!!!! unsure.gif (as long as you don't tell the starving wink.gif )

Conned beef?
mortonjag 2008-03-06 08:40:20
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Mar 5 2008, 09:05 PM) [snapback]414790[/snapback]
Which law would be broken?

Mortonjag's law which states that the sudden need for a transplant is JUST that-why should you Mr Bam, or anybody else for that matter have the advantage over some poor woman, just 'cos you pledged yer Willy and she didn't have one?
mortonjag 2008-03-06 08:46:10
QUOTE(leyTON @ Mar 5 2008, 11:18 PM) [snapback]414839[/snapback]
well the organ donation from dead criminals isnt the issue
the people who are opposed to the death penalty as awhole, not the individual aspects of it
im notsure about the opt out scheme, people are reluctant to chose to donate as they dont want to think about their death

Oh I'm more than happy to donate so long as I'm definitely dead, but you see the only person I'd truly trust with that diagnosis is myself.

I've dreamed many times of bequeathing my brain to Shoogly should I predecease him-my heart can go to Spurtle to make up for the current deficit, and my Willy's already spoken for.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 08:51:48
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 5 2008, 11:26 PM) [snapback]414846[/snapback]
Don't get nationalism mixed up with monarchism. You can be both, although I would want a republic.

Right now we can't really do anything to oust the Royals. After independence I believe we could.

And you could be King Col of the neo monarchist republic of Bawheidia where all subjects are cool and calm and worship Salmond.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 08:54:14
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 5 2008, 09:25 PM) [snapback]414797[/snapback]
MJ, you are as nutty as a fruitcake.

Your postings have gone from being slightly eccentric but mildly amusing to downright bizarre.

One day you will understand!
mortonjag 2008-03-06 08:56:50
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Mar 6 2008, 12:34 AM) [snapback]414864[/snapback]
http://www.damianslaw.com/

nuff said

why should we continue to pay for guys who have committed murder, we could lock them up for life, they then have nothing to lose and then they may want to murder a warder who is there to feed his family and make a living, as I said before if there is a murder committed where there is no doubt then why waste the money keeping them alive.

The justice system is an ass, the innocent are the victims. I would say that regarding people like the murderer, rapist from ipswich, hey you know what, we'll give you a key to your cell, a job, family visits, tv, video, dvd and the oppertunity to exist at the tax payers expense.

I can see both sides of the for and against argument but its a complete joke that these guys who can carry out such crimes are allowed to survive in a manner that they do not deserve. I know people who get and have less than these guys who are more deserving and dont complain. These guys will complain if a visit is late, thier papers are not there on time, they dont get pt, they dont feel like going to work.................................the victims cant.

Would you also top Mr Somers for being a pyuf?


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mortonjag 2008-03-06 09:02:43
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 6 2008, 12:40 AM) [snapback]414865[/snapback]
Unless you are god you have absolutely no right to say whether someone deserves to live or die. Killing someone, for any reason, is just as bad as cold blooded murder at the end of the day. You are taking away a living person's life. That sits easy with you?

Really GOD-thank you so much for that helpful piece of information oh hallowed lawmaker.

BTW while you were pontificating somebody just raped your partner before chopping her up into little pieces. He's currently chewing on her left nipple which he slightly undercooked in that big pot.

I am not God, almightly lawmaker, but how could you let that happen to your beloved, and more importantly will you let him do it again? ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-06 09:07:43
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 5 2008, 11:27 PM) [snapback]414847[/snapback]
Brown a son of the Manse too rolleyes.gif

It's well known that in hell you can't get near the fire for f*ckin' ministers.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 09:10:47
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 6 2008, 08:07 AM) [snapback]414879[/snapback]
No. God forbid Labour or indeed any other Party were to be voted the biggest Party after the next election, then they have the moral right to try and form a government.
To try an undermine not only the democratic will of the people, and go behind even the elected leaders of your own Party in Scotland, is a sleekit inderhand and morally corrupt thing to do.

The SNP, I take it, is above all sleekitness, underhandedness, and moral corruption Spurtle.

Can you please confirm for posterity that that is indeed your allegation?
mortonjag 2008-03-06 09:13:23
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Mar 6 2008, 07:49 AM) [snapback]414875[/snapback]
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Who is he?
mortonjag 2008-03-06 09:16:29
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 5 2008, 11:29 PM) [snapback]414852[/snapback]
One thinks that one has too much time to 'think'! - maybe one needs to 'get a life'

I will happily teach one if one cares to p.m. me!

Life is life na na,na na na.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 09:19:51 Happy days are back again-we are debating penalty takers instead of sacking managers.

I'd let Ryan Harding take the penalties, because he's dead cool.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 09:22:35
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Mar 6 2008, 09:16 AM) [snapback]414906[/snapback]
But the SNP are a minority government who spent a lot of time trying to set up a coalition, but couldn't. When you have a situation like that all parties have the right to form a government. It's called democracy. Nobody wanted to form a coalition so the SNP get to rule, but they don't have the mandate as a majority party. You need over 50% of the seats to do that.
On your last point I disagree. The SNP were trying to form a coalition to gain power from a minority position. Labour were trying to form a coalition to hold onto power from a minority position. I'm not sure what the difference is. And surely you are happy with the outcome.

Is it true that Bawheid is a professional gambler, or was that his faither?
mortonjag 2008-03-06 09:23:54
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Mar 6 2008, 09:21 AM) [snapback]414908[/snapback]
He is the gorgeous guy from Dirty Dancing Mr Jag, surprise you have never heard of him. What's wrong with him anyway? unsure.gif

TY-I'm afraid I don't know anything about dirty dancing either though the Monkey says it sounds like good fun.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 09:32:11
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 6 2008, 09:30 AM) [snapback]414912[/snapback]
Wiki doesn't say tongue.gif

Is the skettleon on strike again.

Make it move for the Monkey!
mortonjag 2008-03-06 09:37:51
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 6 2008, 09:32 AM) [snapback]414915[/snapback]
I think this thread would have developed differently had it been started by anyone other than Colkitto....

The point here is that Gordon Brown tried to do a deal behind the backs of his own colleagues who are supposed to be in charge of Labour in Scotland. He was in effect trying to subvert democracy. Incidentally it was said at the time that part of the reason that the LibDems wouldn't go into a coalition with the SNP was that Ming had been offered a ministerial position in a future Labour-LibDem coalition in Westminster, a scenario that seemed, and may still seem, quite likely if as expected the Labour vote slumps at the next Westminster election. Ming leaned on his Scottish leaders heavily and of course they did what they were told. Ming eventually turned down the offer although at the time it seems he was going to accept - he denied that, but that may be one of the reasons he was forced out of the leadership.

It's no secret that the unionist parties are doing their best to wreck anything the SNP government tries to do, by overt or covert means. They would rather see Scotland do badly than see it do well under an SNP government. That's what is meant when it is said that people like Des Browne, Gordon Brown, David Cairns, and their like are anti-Scottish.

Given that there appears to be no moral code in politics I cannot but applauud their Machiavellian stance.

Now if only our sweet and innocent little virgin first minister could lower himself to PIG level----but that just wouldn't be Scottish-would it?

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mortonjag 2008-03-06 12:17:39
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 6 2008, 11:36 AM) [snapback]414966[/snapback]
I still feel Finlayson is in the running for Player of the Year. He puts in an amazing amount of effort.
He has come on leaps and bounds from last year, working on the technical aspects of his game, and it's paying off.

The wing back role is his for the rest of the season. Nobody at present in the squad can play better in that role. Not even Stevenson who the thread was originally about.

Can we afford a player like Stevenson ? A very talented player who seems only able to play in one position. Too few times has he shown his true ability. And one of his faults is he isn't versatile. for me that's no good to a Morton team in this division.

As suggested by Mortonjag a long, long time ago!

Problem with Jimbo AND Kev is quite simple-neither is, or ever will be a winger. JM, it would seem, did not believe in wingers, and his legacy will be with us for a while yet.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 12:23:51
QUOTE(Yoda @ Mar 6 2008, 10:34 AM) [snapback]414931[/snapback]
I fully understand your reticence, but given what will happen to your body next ie burny fire or big box with six feet of earth on top, how do you plan to make sure? Have you instructed Munx to throttle you just to to be certain?

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He's too squeamish for that sort of thing-unlike his little friend 'Fing', who fully understands his remit and can often be spotted practising in the kitchen with a turnip and nail gun.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 12:28:23
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Mar 6 2008, 11:15 AM) [snapback]414956[/snapback]
I disagree with the first point. Everyone has a moral right, when elected to parliament, to try and form a government. The SNP, with the most seats, were in the best position to do so, but they no had no more moral right than any of the others to have a crack.
The 2nd point I agree with and they also probably thought that it would give them the chance to say how crap the SNP were at ruling. An opportunity they haven't had yet despite some flirtation with strange people.
The 3rd point I disagree with completely. PR basically stops any party having the chance to rule unfettered. The first government was coalition, the 2nd a minority. So, it could be argued by paranoid labour supporters that the system is set up to stop labour having a full majority. All parties want to rule and power corrupts. I expect this from politicians. It's why they get into the job.

Never were truer words spoken, and IMVVVHO only a complete and utter moron could ever believe otherwise.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 12:31:00 Your chips are swell Mr Mc...Carthy? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-06 12:33:02
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 6 2008, 10:24 AM) [snapback]414928[/snapback]
You would be the first bannished from my Kingdom.

I would venture not into that land flowing with mink and bunnies.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 12:34:20
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 6 2008, 10:44 AM) [snapback]414939[/snapback]
Is the Communist Party not a republican unionist party ? Or George Galloway's RESPECT ?

Galloway's RESPECT-he lost that long before he became a professional poosy.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 12:42:58
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 6 2008, 11:27 AM) [snapback]414959[/snapback]
What about miscarriages of justice? Are you happy to accept the fact the innocent people will be hanged if we had capital punishment, that is a cast iron certainty. Here are just a few people out of many in the last couple of years alone who have had their murder convictions overturned.

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/12/...l?from=storyrhs

http://space.newscientist.com/article/dn33...onths-late.html

http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/worl...erturned/163845

http://www.4ni.co.uk/news.asp?id=53386

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime...ned-663516.html

http://netk.net.au/Reports/Summaries1987-ToDate.asp

And perhaps most worrying of all.... http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime...wed-757325.html

If you had your way they'd all be executed.

There are somewhere around 1000 murder convictions in the UK every year. Let's be extremely generous to the criminal justice system and say 99% of these convictions are correct. That still means 10 innocent people would be hanged every year if you had your way. And I think that is a very conservative estimate.

Sorry, but I can't agree that that is a price worth paying
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Yes, I'm beginning to get your drift-we must not risk humanely executing a living soul in error-not even if it were to save the lives of millions of equally innocent souls.

You Sir, are clearly keeping company with an apian friend below that baseball cap.

You have such a winsome sense of justice for the individual-I almost want to weep.

Now when you see the incontrovertible evidence captured on CCTV will you still spare the depraved c*nt who massacred your children?
mortonjag 2008-03-06 12:44:49
QUOTE(cmdc @ Mar 6 2008, 11:35 AM) [snapback]414963[/snapback]
I don't think you'll find the justification for capital punishment in deterrence. Thats not to say I'm against it in principle. When I think about crimes such as the Kris Donald murder, the nature of the crime and the murderers sheer disregard for human life makes me think that the most severe punishment would be deserved. But I don't think the availability of the death sentence would have prevented it from happening. To take Steve Wright or Colin Norris as other high profile examples, their crimes seemed to have a pathological nature to them that I thing the death sentence would have done little to deter.

It was a well accepted fact among the criminal fraternity prior to abolition.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 12:47:29
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Mar 6 2008, 11:35 AM) [snapback]414964[/snapback]
I agree with your second point. The level of hypocrisy from some posters is astounding.

On your first point how do you kill someone humanely? Isn't that a contradiction in terms?

I'll let CHC fight the good fight on miscarriages of justice.

Not if the law has offered the criminal a choice and he has elected to suffer that fate. No point on making it any harder on him-just a little p***k on the back of the hand.

Not a big deal in return for his donation to society.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 12:48:30
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Mar 6 2008, 12:11 PM) [snapback]414973[/snapback]
thats easy..................................more humanely and with more consideration than the victim got wither it be hanging, lethal injection or firing squad, as long as it was over quickly and with minimum fuss. if you had ever seen the brutallity, and conviction that people put into murder we would not be having this debate, and it aint like tv, believe me.

as for CHC I respect his and others point of view but until they have had to deal with a thing like that or the concequences then they can try and change my point of view, which I am affraid to say will never happen.

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mortonjag 2008-03-06 12:52:57
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 6 2008, 12:33 PM) [snapback]414984[/snapback]
Once again, MortonJag, you constantly make the same point and when people pull you up on it you ignore their questions and statements and make the same point again. Please feel free to look back on any of the times you've used this ludicrous scenario and been pulled up on it and answer that.

Or else ask what I'd do if an immigrant raped, killed and ate my wife again. Seventh time's the charm and all that.
Although, clearly to you are I, they are MORE guilty: in the eyes of lady justice (who's blind. does she have eyes? there's a weird yin for ye) they are no more guilty than someone who's jury deliberates for days and still can't come to a majority verdict. At what point, within the criminal justice system, do we decide some people are more guilty than others?
Don't get me wrong. I can see why people want the death penalty back and just because I'm dead against it (no pun intended) doesn't mean I don't feel the same outrage as the lynch mobbers amongst us. Surely, however, the only moral argument for it is as a deterrent which it plainly isn't and never will be. There is no moral standpoint in saying it's deserved as surely murder, whether state sanctioned or not, still ends a human being's life. Now these guy's who go round killing kids, raping women, etc. are still human's whether they act it or whether we see them that way.

The argument that it costs so many pounds a year to keep them in prison is even more ludicrous as you're then putting a price on someone's life.

The only pro-death penalty argument that I can even sympathise with is "they deserve it". As said before, who amongst us has the right to deserve who lives and dies?

You come over as a completely misguided clown at times.

It would be refreshing if you'd STOP telling us why you're correct, and start answering some of the pertinent questions which you REPEATEDLY evade.


Killing's nasty son-and if killing one c*nt stops him killing 100 innocents-I'LL do it-thank you very much-grow up or curl up.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 12:54:49
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 6 2008, 12:49 PM) [snapback]414993[/snapback]
Thought you didn't do politics ?

The onlooker sees the whole of the game Bannock Baws.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 13:02:16
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Mar 6 2008, 12:45 PM) [snapback]414990[/snapback]
I wouldn't try to change your point of view. The death penalty will always be an emotive subject. Experience will also have an impact on how you deal with the issues related to it. The death penalty wasn't a deterrent when we had it. Given the level of neddishness on display nowadays, what makes you think it will act as a deterrent if it is reintroduced?

I don't believe it will, but that is only a secondary consideration. I believe the current justice system is flawed. Bringing back the death penalty would leave it fatally flawed.

It was.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 13:10:21
QUOTE(simple_ton @ Mar 6 2008, 01:00 PM) [snapback]414998[/snapback]
Who exactly are we referring to here - apart from Shipman (and I'm not even sure his victims were in the hundreds?) where are you getting this figure of 100 innocents?

And btw, I'm all for the death penalty for the scrote that's scraped & bumped my car door! Which is I guess an argument against emotive calls for justice
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No it's merely further evidence of the current erosion of value systems in this once fine land of ours!


I was, of course, speaking figuratively-I find it almost incredible that posters who are clearly 'wet behind the ears' presume to pontificate on the concept of 'the general good'.

Forget all the red herrings from the dyspeptic ex pats. Every single time a child receives an immunisation there is a risk of a FATAL reaction. C'est la vie.

s*** happens and no individual is greater than the general good.

Make the laws, and top the b*****ds if they disobey.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 13:12:40
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 6 2008, 09:40 AM) [snapback]414920[/snapback]
He has pancreatic cancer. Mortonjag will be able to confirm, but I believe that doesn't do much for your chances of being at the 2010 World Cup. Or even going to spain this summer.

Normally associated with a very poor prognosis.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 13:17:53
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 5 2008, 10:08 PM) [snapback]414809[/snapback]
After watching Wylie for years the idea of him teaching kicking seems like MortonJag teaching us all about peace, love and understanding.

Amusing but worthless smile.gif

However this board is full of experts on things in which they themselves have no ability so hopefully Wylie's the same smile.gif

Admittedly you are a lost cause.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 13:28:01
QUOTE(Yoda @ Mar 6 2008, 01:19 PM) [snapback]415004[/snapback]
Given the various moral debates raging on other threads at the moment, I wondered what moral dilemas other posters would find they wrestled with.

For example - if you found a large sum of money that you knew could not be traced would you keep it or hand it in to the police? Or if you knew a member of your family to be guilty of a heinous crime, would your love for them encourage you to protect them or would you still be able to hand them in. You see a friend get in a car and drive away, you know them to have had a drink - do you call the police?

What is your nightmare - what is the decision you hope you never have to make? I think mine would be hoping I never have to choose between loved ones.

Maybe I'm a 'one off' but I don't usually have much of a problem with such issues. Rather than acting on any instilled moral code I treat every case on its merits.

If I was utterly skint, I'd never hand back that big stash, but comfortably off, I'd probably see someone else as more needy than me.

Would I shop a loved one-clearly that would depend on circumstances-but in some-DEFINITELY.

My biggest personal worry has always been that somebody may some day ask me to assist in his euthanasia. I imagine that in certain circumstances I could perform that task with humility.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 13:44:15
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Mar 6 2008, 01:24 PM) [snapback]415006[/snapback]
That's a bit of a blanket statement considering we were still hanging people in the 50s. Obviously it worked for some but not for others. I think the same would apply today, but given the level of bellendedness on show these days, why do you think it would work as a greater deterrrent than it used to. If it did?

It was a deliberately blanket statement. My father in law is still alive at the age of 91, and was Barlinnie Chaplain for ten years, during which he befriended umpteen hardened lags. The chaplaincy was much more a sort of 'social work' function, rather than to do with Godly things, and 'Jimmy' used to run many an errand between the 'Bar L' and prisoners' homes.

I used to be walking along a street in the town with him when some scary looking character would approach with 'How's it goin' Boss?'.

There was a very clear message throughout the criminal fraternity in those days, and that was that you avoided getting 'topped' at all costs.

Maverick psychopaths like Manuel were not deterred of course, and The Rev Hutcheson was present at his execution, which he assured me was over before he had time to take it in. 'He never stopped walking' were his exact words.

The truth is that in the last 50 years we have allowed ourselves to become a nation of wimps.

Bring back National Service for starters-belt unruly brats in schools-re-instil a healthy fear of justified punishment-and make it once again safe for old ladies to walk out of a summer's evening.

mortonjag 2008-03-06 13:50:29
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Mar 6 2008, 12:30 PM) [snapback]414980[/snapback]
I agree.
I shouldn't be included in something which I may or may not agree with without my express permission beforehand

I should point out that in principle I may or may not decide to donate my organs, but it is my decision in the end, not the governments.

...and if your medical advisor declares that you need a transplant nobody should have the right to prevent a willing and compatible donation.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 13:58:15
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 6 2008, 01:54 PM) [snapback]415015[/snapback]
Proof in bold - if it was needed - that you are indeed Dougie Rae wink.gif

Just evidence of the correct usage of parenthesis, Puggs.

Is the sketelon ded agen Munx asks.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 14:41:57 Hamilton 1 Morton 2


Followed by an official protest to the SFA that they had wanted JM to be the Manager and it wasn't in the spirit of the game to change things without the consent of Scott Struthers and similar pufey gentlefolks.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 14:51:36
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Mar 6 2008, 02:42 PM) [snapback]415023[/snapback]
It is a difficult one. I've always carried a donor card, much to the annoyance of my old man. His religious beliefs precluded it as he needed everything intact for the great rapture.

The thing I like about the opt-out scheme that runs in a few European countries is that the individual has to make a conscious decision to opt out, rather than the unconscious decision not to opt in that often happens in the UK.

In an ideal world I reckon I'd agree with that.

We live in a far from ideal world-a world full of ambitious and zealous transplant surgeons who often seem more interested in seeing their names in the papers than in the niceties of establishing true non viability of a human body, rushed in from a road accident.

Anyway-the whole donor - recipient business is over glamorised, and prevention has always been better than cure.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 15:57:25
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Mar 6 2008, 03:06 PM) [snapback]415028[/snapback]
Why not MJ. Quite happy to kill, but a bit sqeamish about organ donation? ohmy.gif tongue.gif I completely agee with you, your organs should be yours while you live and you can donate them as you wish. Except it's a little hard for you to offer a gift once you're dead. For the opt-out option you have that choice while you are still alive.

As long as they leave enough to make me look peaceful, they can have anything else that is still worthwhile (although that might not be alot!)

ScotinBelgie

Not in the slightest squeamish about transplant surgery, but Yoda's post is worthy of note.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 15:59:01
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 6 2008, 03:06 PM) [snapback]415027[/snapback]
You must be watching a different game from me then Doc Doom. wink.gif

I do not have your fatal fascination for naked table tennis Spurtle! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-06 16:15:35
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 6 2008, 04:10 PM) [snapback]415039[/snapback]
In which case you'd be a murderer and should hang. tongue.gif

If euthanasia is murder then I'd be a murderer, and if all murderers should hang (something I've never suggested) then I should hang.

Have you taken YOUR pills today my friend in pathology?
mortonjag 2008-03-06 16:23:25
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 6 2008, 04:19 PM) [snapback]415041[/snapback]
Not what I heard......... wink.gif

Well, as always seems to be the case, you heard wrong.

I do enjoy watching tadpoles in a jam jar-always makes me think of Bawheid and his cronies aspiring to be frogs.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 16:25:24
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Mar 6 2008, 04:23 PM) [snapback]415042[/snapback]
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2 Harold Shipmans?

Harold Shipman was a killer, not a facilitator.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 19:18:54
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 6 2008, 04:53 PM) [snapback]415051[/snapback]
Are you sure you're the Doc and not the mental patient ? blink.gif

Isn't it possible to be both at one and the same time-you know-like being first minister and professional loser gambler?
mortonjag 2008-03-06 19:27:52
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 6 2008, 05:27 PM) [snapback]415061[/snapback]
No its not. blink.gif

For someone who is hardly capable of constructing a sentence of English, you've become very fussy my lad.

Shall we use the term 'inverted commas' instead? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-06 19:40:29
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 6 2008, 04:29 PM) [snapback]415045[/snapback]
Sorry MortonJag I thought this was a debate where you gave your opinion and then backed it up. Please point out these pertinent questions I REPEATEDLY evade and I will be happy to point out where I have answered them.

I have repeatedly asked you and your ilk what you would do in a situation where one of your loved ones had been brutally murdered in circumstances where no doubt of proof existed.

I suspect you'll churn out the usual tripe about not being in a fit state of mind to make decisions where personally involved, but you'll STILL have views. Will they be the same as those you THINK you currently hold?

Others have pointed out more forcefully than I, that we now live in a perpetrator friendly society where the victim is frequently ignored and ultimately forgotten.

One of the reasons for that is a superabundance of wishy washy bureaucrats who have cut their teeth on being 'PC' and toeing the party line.

As far as I am concerned, when lawmakers fail to protect the general good of society they become defunct.

Capital punishment should be re-introduced for certain crimes, and the sooner the better

The least of those may be disputing the wisdom of Mortonjag..
mortonjag 2008-03-06 19:41:33
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 6 2008, 07:31 PM) [snapback]415098[/snapback]
Yes, we shall try the correct term today.
Parenthesis - such as the use of two dashes to seperate additional information - is contained in this sentence.
You learn something new every day. smile.gif

You really ARE takin' the piss Son-admit it! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-06 19:44:50
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Mar 6 2008, 04:50 PM) [snapback]415050[/snapback]
Was tongue in check but maybe a little out of order. Apologies if it was taken the wrong way.

From what you say though, do you think there is a place for euthanasia, and could you have carried out such an act when you were still practising, considering that everything you've trained for is to make people better. Does that not make you a bit of a hypocrite?

From my point of view, had I spent a lot of my time on helping someone over many years for example, I don't think I could personally "assist" that person to end their life, such would be my connection to that person, be that relative or patient. I do, however, see where such an act would be in the best interests of the people involved.

I have absolutely not a shred of doubt that in certain circumstances I would help a loved one to 'slip away'.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 19:47:37
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 6 2008, 05:35 PM) [snapback]415063[/snapback]
It is.

Really-then your perception of 'euthanasia' and mine must differ.

I prefer the medical definition of assisted suicide.

BTW I'm here to help! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-06 19:51:00
QUOTE(standman @ Mar 6 2008, 06:45 PM) [snapback]415075[/snapback]
It's on BBC1 Scotland at eight o'clock

So this forum will die a death for two hours-always happens and then the 'we hate the OF' brigade re-appear as if they'd just been a bit constipated and had to queue at the lavvy.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 19:53:33
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 6 2008, 07:47 PM) [snapback]415121[/snapback]
Then in the eyes of the law you would be a murderer, who you yourself think should be executed. laugh.gif

Sometimes your simplicity concerns me,or do I misjudge, and you are indeed admitting that the law is frequently an ass?
mortonjag 2008-03-06 20:04:44
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 6 2008, 07:50 PM) [snapback]415126[/snapback]
It's not my or even your perception that counts MJ, it's the law of that land! laugh.gif

If you deliberately end someone's life, even at their request, then you're a murderer.

Then I will tell you without fear of contradiction that murder is being committed day and daily in our homes and hospital wards by well meaning professionals to whose judgement the final and peaceful passage from life to death is entrusted by this ubiquitous 'LAW of the LAND', the very mention of which seems to whip you into a frenzy.

Fortunately, in real life, we still have practical ways of circumventing tomes of useless medico-legal faeces.

And Monsieur CHC, rest assured that if you are on your death bed, have had more than you can take, and simply want to say 'goodbye' as you slip from agony into eternity, as a dedicated clinician, I will fight off that 'Law of the Land' and rely on MY BETTER JUDGEMENT.

Thank you.

Amen.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 20:08:22
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 6 2008, 07:54 PM) [snapback]415133[/snapback]
Superb book BTW.

If you manage to make it to the end you'll be suprised see what his opinions on capital punishment were after he retired. wink.gif

Sold plenty of books didn't it the fly old bugger!
mortonjag 2008-03-06 20:12:11 People who witter on about the Novels they are reading, upset me.

Life is out there-go and find out-then write an interesting autobiography.

Mine comes out next week-it's entitled Loser's Winner. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-06 20:20:48
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 6 2008, 08:12 PM) [snapback]415153[/snapback]
Murderer! mad.gif

The interpretation of the Hippocratic Oath-and specifically that part where we swear 'not to strive officiously to keep alive' is clearly open to interpretation.

I can see that your mind is possibly too restricted to encompass the inherent complexities of pain relief versus prolonged agony.

Call me a murderer if you wish-I am only one of thousands of dedicated health professionals who always put the patients desires and comfort in his final hours miles ahead of any red tape. GOD FORBID that clowns like you should ever have to make such decisions. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-06 20:22:48
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 6 2008, 08:12 PM) [snapback]415153[/snapback]
Murderer! mad.gif

And in any case, when I'm on my deathbed you'll be long deid. tongue.gif

I do hope for your sake you are correct my friend-I have seen healthy young men dead in a matter of months-succumbing to rampant neoplasia. Do say your prayers tonight.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 20:28:52
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 6 2008, 08:14 PM) [snapback]415158[/snapback]
i would never trust a man who doesn't read. vindicated again

I have read the Holy Bible many times

I spend much time also engrossed in 'non fiction' and can, for example, do useful things like building kitchens, lighting barbecues first time, and sound proofing the wall between my bedroom and the neighbours.

Live, and let live though-I once struggled through Fanny Hill, and daffs have been off menu ever since.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 20:36:27
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 6 2008, 08:25 PM) [snapback]415162[/snapback]
MJ, I don't make the laws, I only observe them. rolleyes.gif

It is the lawmakers of the land who have decided that if you kill someone to relieve their suffering you're a murderer, not me.

You are a silly old goat, aren't you. tongue.gif

So you disagree with them!

Indeed they are often silly old goats, and as is common knowledge ill conceived and unworkable laws are inevitably broken regularly and with impunity.

It is, nevertheless, somewhat emotive to describe euthanasia as MURDER-indeed the implicit concurrence of the 'victim' undoubtedly raises serious questions as to the accuracy of the term, given that suicide is no longer a 'crime'.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 20:41:33
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 6 2008, 08:12 PM) [snapback]415154[/snapback]
So what you're saying is you asked the question, got an answer, the answer disagrees with your own views and therefore and holds no water?

Welcome to the world of MortonJag.

I don't know if those views would be the same and, touch wood, I aint gonna find out. I'd like to think I'd be above wanting someone killed however.

I totally empathise with that comment-and indeed welcome to the world of Mortonjag-when I was your age I guess I lived in a kind of idealistic bubble too. I don't in any way disrespect you for it. You have the advantages of youth and a life ahead of you. I have my experiences to pass on-nobody is obliged to listen!
mortonjag 2008-03-06 20:52:32
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 6 2008, 08:41 PM) [snapback]415167[/snapback]
How is pointing out the law of the land 'emotive'? laugh.gif

You silly old sausage.

Sorry for the delay-I was doing a jobby.

You were not 'pointing out the law of the land'-you were describing euthanasia as 'MURDER'.

That's a bit like calling that pathetic little fellow I just saw off to the seaside a HUMUNGOUS KEECH.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 20:57:51
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 6 2008, 08:43 PM) [snapback]415170[/snapback]
Oh don't you worry about that MJ, I can assure you that nobody does. tongue.gif

Something strangely incongruous there my friend-or have I just been fooling myself that you hang on my every word.

You just stick with old Mortonjag and you'll not go far wrong.

Today I discovered how to make tomato sauce from apples-would you like the recipe?
mortonjag 2008-03-06 21:11:16
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 6 2008, 08:58 PM) [snapback]415177[/snapback]
Once again MJ, it's not me that's categorised euthanasia as murder, it's the lawmakers. rolleyes.gif

I'll try and make this as simple as possible as you're clearly having difficulties here.....

If you deliberately end someone's life - even with their consent and agreement - then that is murder.

Clear cut - no ifs, no buts. End of. That's not CHC's definition, it's the law.

OK auld yin, you got that now? rolleyes.gif

Ha-and that's exactly where you and the law are asses. If my loved one has only access to his final fatal dose via me, but that is the only part I play in his suicide-the ultimate decision ALWAYS having rested with him, have I been party to an act of euthanasia, or MURDER, as you prefer to describe assisted suicide?
What if we did the pills-eeny meeny manny mo-and he popped the 'fatal' one? Murder or suicide?

The problem with any 'tramcar diagnosis wallah' like yourself is that you haven't a clue about the complexities of pharmacology-of the fine balance that is frequently maintained between death and a miserable but endurable existence through the skills of oncology practitioners.

When one of those devoted people agrees with his patient that enough is enough, the law's definition of their mutual decision is thoroughly worthy of contempt.

mortonjag 2008-03-06 21:13:48
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 6 2008, 09:00 PM) [snapback]415179[/snapback]
Aw, I'm MJ's friend.

Shucks.

Like diarrhoea, it was a very loose term.
mortonjag 2008-03-06 21:18:48
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 6 2008, 08:42 PM) [snapback]415169[/snapback]
One's concerned about ones fuddgy wuddgy shaped fudge packer!

Nothing to cause concern-fudge packers come in an unbelievable variety of shapes and sizes-the secret's in the packing, not in the package!
mortonjag 2008-03-06 21:26:40
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 6 2008, 09:14 PM) [snapback]415186[/snapback]
That may or may not be true MJ, but that's immaterial.

As I said at the beginning if we all obeyed the laws we liked and ignored the ones we don't, then we'd have anarchy.

In which case we appear to have anarchy as I type, or have I missed something.

Laws are made to be broken, and daft laws are invariably broken.

When I was in my teens a dog licence cost 'seven and six', and revenue from that tax I'm led to believe amounted to fifteen bob annually!

Cut me a slice of this anarchy stuff if it means we can rid ourselves of the scum who parasite our once proud nation.

BIRCH-aye

DAMIEN'S LAW-aye

HANGING-aye.

What's wrong with anarchy-it MUST be better than what we've got!
mortonjag 2008-03-07 08:57:12 mortonjag 2008-03-07 09:05:29
QUOTE(franco @ Mar 6 2008, 10:40 PM) [snapback]415228[/snapback]
I really think that's nonsense, pure paranoia. At the risk of repeating myself, why would the party who consistently won the largest share of seats and the vote in Scotland give all that up? Why would they fear the snp 10 years ago? Labour won a majority of the constituency seats at last year's Scottish election (37/73). the snp are only in power BECAUSE of PR, not despite it! And i'm not sure just how long the snp have been supporters' of PR, but they certainly were back in 2002, so they pretty well got what they wanted.

.....and are doing their best to chuck it away before it's even established!
mortonjag 2008-03-07 09:07:54
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 7 2008, 12:31 AM) [snapback]415262[/snapback]
Questions for Mentaljag:
Why do you want to kill people who have killed other people? To stop people who have killed other people from killing more people? Do you think more people would think twice about killing other people if we killed people who killed other people, or do you think that we should kill people who have killed other people because it's wrong to kill other people?
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I'm confused. Should we let the people decide who to kill or not to kill?

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Well you COULD leave the decision to GOD Mr. Edwards, but in my experience he tends to work in mysterious ways his wonders to perform!
mortonjag 2008-03-07 09:08:49
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 7 2008, 12:42 AM) [snapback]415265[/snapback]
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Please ignore my last post your Omnipotent Lordship. I was only kidding, honest.

I normally ignore them all!
mortonjag 2008-03-07 09:11:47
QUOTE(CivicTypeR @ Mar 7 2008, 01:51 AM) [snapback]415278[/snapback]
I agree with this.......to a certain extent.

Did anyone see the daily record today with that " crazy " guy who was sentenced for racially agrivated murder of that wee boy kris donald? Going mad coz they took away his dvd player and play station 2? Sending someone to prison for life for something theyv done wrong is correct, why should they be allowed to hang around society living free for taking someone elses life. But at the same time wots the point in making prison like a 5star hotel all because of " human rights" Same with suicide bombers........get rid of them all.

This comment will probably cause major argument but - I know its wrong to murder people...obviously, but its something that happens sadly almost every week because the worlds a severely screwed up place, and UNFORTUNATELY their are worse things that you can do. So no for murdering someone i dont see why you should get the death penalty. But, ont eh other hand though when you hear of people like ian huntley and that rose west in the world ud give them electric chair for what theyv done.

Its a tough one to call and in all fairness as long as you yourself dont end up in the situation it its something you ought not to be too bothered about.

You're not suggesting it would be safe to exterminate that pair of angels are you. As sure as fate they are innocent as the day is long and have just been 'stitched up' because the cops were too lazy to investigate matters properly.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 09:17:03
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 7 2008, 08:34 AM) [snapback]415289[/snapback]
Not everybody, surely. A lot of people do, obviously, otherwise we wouldn't need police and courts. rolleyes.gif

But I think that the majority of people are decent and law-abiding.

The problems with MJs justifcation for ignoring laws he doesn't agree with is that if we all thought and acted like that then there would be chaos. Because what he thinks is a ridiculous law (illegalisation of Euthanasia) may not be a ridiculous law to someone else (e.g. a vulnerable elderly person). Similarly his neighbour may choose to ignore a law he thinks is perfectly sensible and right. And no doubt he's be on here like a shot bumping his gums about it. smile.gif

So if you deliberately ignore a law simply because you don't agree with it, then you lose any right to complain about anyone else breaking any other law.
I dunno mate, you'd have to ask your elected representative who actually makes the laws. I suspect he or she would say it's for you and me.

Would you like that to be your epitaph -it seems the ideal resume of a clueless life, and can be fitted quite neatly on that piece of cardboard over the pauper's grave? tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-07 09:20:29
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 7 2008, 09:05 AM) [snapback]415305[/snapback]
No, I work alone...... wink.gif

I always fancied becoming a professional 'hit man' too.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 09:22:46
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 7 2008, 09:01 AM) [snapback]415301[/snapback]
f*** up smile.gif

Indeed Forza-A F*CK UP of massive proportions by a little woman with a tiny brain and a thistle up her erse.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 09:30:17
QUOTE(tontric @ Mar 7 2008, 09:21 AM) [snapback]415312[/snapback]
Never mind skipping through the leagues...... It's looking increasingly likely that Gretna will not be playing in any league next year.

One can surely be excused for asking why the farce was ever allowed to happen. Who should ultimately be carrying the can for the damage MIleson's self indulgent idiocy has wreaked on Scottish football, and on the village of Gretna in particular.

Where are the faceless fat cats who rubber stamped applications without due consideration-or worse still felt the need for a little sweetener once in a while.

It is not only Mileson who should be brought to account.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 09:32:25
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Mar 6 2008, 10:55 PM) [snapback]415235[/snapback]
I do not condone this at all, however were Gretna to go into administration does this not leave the door open for another club (Partick for example) to buy them and therefore but their SPL status? Similar to Airdrie Utd buying over Clydebank

I believe Forfar have submitted a bid! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-07 09:34:02
QUOTE(thedonn @ Mar 6 2008, 11:09 PM) [snapback]415242[/snapback]
agree 100% shame on any ton fans wishing them to go bust...is just soor grapes on our part because they stuffed us for promotion. mellow.gif

Don't even say that in jest any more.

Gretna were ALWAYS a farce-it just took the majority of fools a bit longer to see through the sham.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 09:51:14
QUOTE(Yoda @ Mar 7 2008, 09:42 AM) [snapback]415319[/snapback]
following the disturbing revelations yesterday by Mortonjag that he has trained Fing to dispatch him in the event of being unable to conduct the act himself, I was awoken by a horrible ghastly nightmare around 2 o'clock this morning.

Johnny Vegas was indeed nail gunned to the table by his little knitted friend whilst enjoying a cup of PG tips.

Vader was also woken by my shouts of "No don't do it!" whilst my mind played tricks on me as the monkey smiled and ended Mr Vegas career.

I now feel out of sorts, through trauma and lack of sleep.

IT'S ALL MORTONJAGS FAULT!!!!! ohmy.gif

There, there Yoda---it was only a dream-Fing has bigger fish to fry than wadlling beer barrels-he's currently taping a long piece of hair to his turnip-a bit like a pony tail and muttering something about a bloody cushioning effect.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 10:28:02
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 7 2008, 10:18 AM) [snapback]415323[/snapback]
bollox ! If that's the case why are they riding high in the polls then ?

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What's your favourite fairy story Spurtle?

Have you heard the one about Little Nickerless, the girl who thought she could rule the world for ever, -and then that one about Bawheid and the magic Penny machine-those are just two of the current offerings from the Grimm reapers.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 10:41:28
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 7 2008, 10:23 AM) [snapback]415324[/snapback]
Gordon Brown is doing the same thing in England. Why no criticism there ?

Nearly everyone I know works shifts. You lot don't want to work an extra 2 and a half hours a week !

And may I say, those practicise's in Scotland will get an extra £19k for doing it. Those in England won't !

So fcuk up !

Lazy BASSA's !!

Time you went out and met some REAL people Spurtle. This issue doesn't affect me directly as I'm happily retired. You are welcome to attempt to discredit the Medical Profession, but you'll NEVER do it as well as I can AND DO.

There's a hell of a lot wrong with the current service provided by G.P.s. Much, but not all of that is a direct result of political meddling. A once genuinely caring profession is caring less and less as it is increasingly told how to do its job by faceless bureaucrats-THAT IS A FACT, as is the total MYTH of 'lazy' G.P.s

Sturgeon's made a complete arse of herself on this one, but it's becoming rapidly obvious that this new party of power cares not a jot about Scotland and true Scottish issues-a shower of sickeningly self righteous pragmatists who simply jumped on the bandwagon of years of labour incompetence, and are rapidly proving EVEN MORE INEPT!!


This is indeed a sad day for Scotland.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 10:44:30
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 7 2008, 10:28 AM) [snapback]415326[/snapback]
Why is it doctors are considered different from everyone else when it comes to working weekends and nights? Surely that is a time were more people would consider going to the docters due to work, sure some would argue if you are ill you shouldn't be at work anyway but that is not always possible, especially for those on lower earning/less skilled jobs who could be easily replaced.

It is common knowledge that when my mates are doing the Amazon work at Christmas they always seem to come down with some sort of illness as it just spreads in the building as everyone's afraid to take time off and risk losing their job/not being kept on. The availability of a docters surgery outwith normal working hours should surely be considered a good thing for everybody!

They are being extra pay to carry out this service, so I ask you jag...what is so bad about it? Are doctors too good to work into the evenings or work on a Saturday or Sunday. Don't doctors go on call anyway? Surely this could be considered better than being on call?

The NHS provides a 24/7 service Puggs, and determination of priority is thankfully delegated to folk with a little more perception of life's realities than you.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 10:47:09
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 7 2008, 10:41 AM) [snapback]415330[/snapback]
Why don't you answer the question Doc Doom ? Salmond is the most popular leader by a large margin in Scotland, by various polls.
And the SNP are riding high also. If the opposition parties feel as if the could oust the SNP why didn't they call Salmond's bluff when he offered to resign ?
Would the opposition Parties lose more seats if an election was called right now ? I wonder....... ???

It's not difficult to answer your silly wee question by reminding you that Labour topped the polls in Scotland for decades on end.

Such is the value of polls!
mortonjag 2008-03-07 11:08:54
QUOTE(franco @ Mar 7 2008, 10:41 AM) [snapback]415329[/snapback]
MJ, can you spell out what the problem is here? Why would safety be compromised, and why will the public not get access to evening and weekend appointments, why will it not deliver comprehensive care to patients during the day? None of the statements here are supported (in the article) so it would be interesting to know why extra hours won't improve care.

It's simply a matter of common sense franco-there is a capped budget and a limited skill base. That inevitably means that resources have to be prioritised-not expanded!!!

One of the biggest problems is the public perception of 'need', and more specifically of 'urgency'. It seems that folk will camp outside a store for days in freezing weather just to get to that 'Freebie' suite first, but expect to be able to toddle into the lazy G.P.s surgery at one in the morning for a repeat of the BP check which was normal the week before!!!

Sturgeon has missed one of the most crucial aspects of all labour disputes-the right to withdraw services. It's not common knowledge, but we were SO near that when Clarke imposed his new 'contract' in 1990.

She is an extremely foolish and ill advised young woman, and clearly not suited for the post of Health Minister-not even in a Mickey Mouse government.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 11:10:55
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 7 2008, 10:52 AM) [snapback]415334[/snapback]
Aye but come on. It is easy for you to say this from your side of the fence. If someone has the sniffles you honestly think they will go to a hospital? Or phone NHS 24, who I wouldn't trust to help me setting the VCR? A doctors surgery provides a great service to a community, and should be available to all.

If your lot cannot be ersed working an extra 2 and a half hours a week then your priorities are very much in the wrong place.

Someone with 'the sniffles' who can't deal with such trivia by himself is surely symptomatic of EXACTLY the problem in today's NHS.

WAKE UP PUGGS! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-07 11:20:32
QUOTE(otter @ Mar 7 2008, 11:00 AM) [snapback]415336[/snapback]
GPs said working outside office hours would jeopardise patient and GP safety and limit the service available because support services would be closed.

That’s a bit of misdirection there as I can count on the one hand the number of "same day" appointments I've had when I've been referred to "support services". Normally I have to wait on an appointment card coming from the hospital.

The safety to doctors and patients bit I would agree with.

Phil.

The future's bright.....

Phil-you've highlighted the real problem. Everybody sees the picture from his individual take on the NHS.

The fact is that it's far from ideal, but IS still staffed by well trained individuals who genuinely care for patients. The ability to deliver that care APPROPRIATELY has been progressively eroded by meddling politicians, and Sturgeon's latest gaffe is a further example of a 'Nobody'-for in NHS terms that's EXACTLY WHAT SHE IS-telling the nation what's best for it.

Hell mend her-I REALLY mean this when I say I'd love her to suffer as a result of her own stupidity, and I can think of several true to life scenarios where that might happen as doctors now have to adjust working practices yet again just to gain Bawheid's party four or five imaginary extra votes.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 11:25:46
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 7 2008, 12:49 AM) [snapback]415267[/snapback]
Nowt at all, as long as your not one of the OF. tongue.gif

Which one Mr Edwards?
mortonjag 2008-03-07 14:53:51
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Mar 7 2008, 11:13 AM) [snapback]415340[/snapback]
One interesting part of this debate is the amount of private work GP's carry out. I know for a fact the amounts some make and it is startling.

GPs contract to the health service HT-provided they fulfil their obligations they are free to do private work also.

I'd be most interested to see you produce your figures mind you. I've never been in the slightest impressed by G.P.s private earnings, especially when compared with-for example- those of Hospital Consultants!

I'd suggest that this debate will remain healthier if we confine ourselves to fact rather than arguing the relative worth of G.P.s

The fact being that Sturgeon has IMPOSED a financially and socially unattractive package on an overworked and undervalued profession, for no other reason than what SHE sees as political expediency.

I would welcome honesty from any political party on the NHS. I have for many years pointed out glaring deficiencies in Primary Care services, and lobbied for a Salaried G.P. service. I wondered briefly if our all new NHS could be dealt some overdue surgery by the new faces.

All I have is BITTER disappointment in a mere child in politics who clearly hasn't an earthly clue about basic housekeeping, let alone running a Health Service. The chickens will come home to roost-mark my words.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 14:56:46
QUOTE(franco @ Mar 7 2008, 11:20 AM) [snapback]415343[/snapback]
Common sense surely says that working extra hours creates extra resources, extra appointments etc? Is the issue that there is no extra budget to administor more prescriptions or hospital places generated from the extra appointments? Or are you saying that really the money should be getting spent on education of the public so that GP's time is not being wasted on trivial matters (which i have no doubt happens). Why is there a safety issue, is it because there are no funds to provide reception staff or something along these lines?

franco-you sound genuinely interested in this issue, and at least have the honesty to admit that there's much you don't understand. I can't answer your questions in a couple of sentences, but will be delighted to give a full understanding of what's going on if you care to p.m. me.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 15:07:02
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 7 2008, 01:21 PM) [snapback]415363[/snapback]
All I know is that my doctor's practice has about four GPs, two of them (the senior ones) work about two days a week and the place is always full of locums. I can't get an appointment for love or money and I cannot believe that given they are receiving extra cash and the rest of the world has woken up to flexible working and service provision, perhaps it's about time GPs did the same. NHS 24 was brought in in part because GPs didn't want to serve the out of hours appointments. Home visits get rarer and rarer.

Just to pick up on that old chestnut Ratarse-is that a BAD thing? It's well accepted that you can see five or six patients in surgery in the average time taken to complete a home visit. It is also widely accepted that the majority of home visits are completely unjustified. This issue is all about lazy and greedy people still wanting their arses wiped by a skint but all providing NHS, and about a stupid young wannabe politician selling her credibility for a few imaginary votes.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 15:09:04
QUOTE(ayrstorm @ Mar 7 2008, 01:47 PM) [snapback]415366[/snapback]
my dentist can provide an NHS appointment at 8am
also one day in the week he can provide an NHS appointment after 6pm

so why is it so hard for a doctor's surgery to provide the same level of service as a minimum ans such a fuss being made about it?

You are an extremely foolish man to even introduce the concept of dentistry and the NHS in one sentence.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 15:11:07
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Mar 7 2008, 01:53 PM) [snapback]415367[/snapback]
I must agree MJ that the situation could have been handled better. And you're right, there is always the final straw that Doctors can withdraw their services. For me though that is also at the core of the argument. Services.

The NHS is a service industry and does need to react to it's clients requirements. And as with the rest of us this needs to be more in tune with a 24/7 mindset - I'm not saying that every doc should be available 24/7, but evening and weekend practises should be provided (even if that means you have to cancel a few rounds of golf every year! tongue.gif ). Under the agreement Scottish GP surgeries will get an extra allowance to provide limited 'out of hours' services, now that seems perfectly fair especially when you consider other GPs are getting diddly squat out of effectively the same agreement. So in many respects I don't see the problem, you just have to intelligently plan resources.

Take my GP or even my cardiologist, they both spread their 'opening' hours through the week including a couple of evening sessions. Perfectively acceptable to me, as it gives me the opportunity to attend an open surgery twice a week or during the more regular day surgeries if I really feel bad. And if it is urgent I can always attend A&E or call an ambulance. It also gives then a more 'normal' working week.

However all this needs to done as part of an intelligent review of NHS service levels to try and bring this crumbling monolith into the 21st century. That should include the role of all doctors, who should be deferred to when it comes to any medical related issue, but not necessarily any organisational issues.

ScotinBelgie

Some sensible points there Robert-the only way ahead is to include the service providers at all stages of negotiation.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 15:37:34
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 7 2008, 01:56 PM) [snapback]415368[/snapback]
This thread is more about MJ's pathological hatred of the SNP than anything else.

My father was a GP in Greenock from 1949 until he retired. He worked nights and weekends, evening surgeries most nights, no deputising services then.

When the new contracts were negotiated, doctors income increased a lot (and they were hardly ill-paid) and they basically went to a 9-5 job. Now they are getting paid even more to provide a decent service - and despite the attitude of many doctors that they are god-like figures, a cut above everyone else, they are simply providing a service for which they get paid. Everyone else works at times to suit their clients, so why not doctors? If you dn't like the heat, get out of the kitchen.

Sorry Ernie, I (unusually on this board I have to say!) often agree with you but not on this one. Some adjustments needed maybe but doctors should never have nbeen allowed to get the deal that meant as an example people in Dumfries having to take sick children on buses up to the hospital to see an out of hours doctor. That is simply a poor service, although in line with the destruction of service levels that has happened over the last 20 or 30 years.

Firstly Sir Alastair, I'd like to comment on your father's working situation. In terms of having to 'be available' the Doctors Cameron of Scottish history indeed could argue that they put in very long hours. It's interesting to note, however, that even your father had no experience of General Practice OUTSIDE the NHS, during a time where there was mutual respect between doctor and patient, and practitioners had yet to become the state funded Sugar Daddies we've all come to resent the minute the candy supply is restricted.

Now to some facts which you clearly fail to understand.

Commercial deputising services were not available in Scotland until the early to mid seventies-and even then, only in the large conurbations. It is a sure measure of your unadulterated ignorance of this issue on a national scale, that you can talk of 'G.P's basically doing a 9-5 job'. Tell that to any single handed G.P. in the outer Isles-you being such a 'Nat'-I'd have imagined you'd know more of those things. rolleyes.gif

You also propagate this myth that everybody works 24/7 to provide a service-shame on you. How much did you pay last time you called a plumber out at three in the morning on 31st December? When did you last wearily flog your donkey and cartload of engineering equipment over to wee Mrs McClumpha's house at 5 a.m., only to discover the problem had fixed itself? laugh.gif Oh-and you wouldn't have dreamed of billing her-would you?

As I've commented to franco I'm more than happy to exchange p.m.s on this topic, as it's far too complex to summarise in a couple of posts. Most G.P.s for example were totally against the inception of NHS 24 at a time when they had a reasonably effective rota system in place. You quite correctly indicate that the idea was a total disaster-A POLITICAL ONE-Alibi. NOT what G.Ps wanted.

I agree with many of the criticisms of the system, but am not prepared to see blame laid anywhere other than appropriately.

Finally-for 'pathological hatred'of the SNP please substitute 'bitter disappointment in'. Unlike yourself I have no political axe to grind-I had genuinely hoped for MUCH better-and I STILL DO, but Rome was not built in a day.

Time for Bawheid et Al to get over the toddling stage right now instead of running marathons.

mortonjag 2008-03-07 16:00:01
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 7 2008, 03:50 PM) [snapback]415390[/snapback]
Waffle..waffle..waffle...JUST WORK THE EXTRA 2/12 HOURS !!!

Not waffle Spurtle-just a tiny few grains of truth. I know the full story, Alibi has limited personal perception, and you just haven't 'a scooby'.

Now away and get your free cod liver oil and orange juice, and you'll grow up into a big strong boy who won't have to pester the NHS.

Lloyd George's vision of State health was that of a misguided fool. Sturgeon has yet to aspire to that status, it would appear.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 16:07:57
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 7 2008, 11:53 AM) [snapback]415352[/snapback]
They didn't on the lead up to the election. and they lost !

So you seem to be in the minority. The SNP are doing well and Salmond is as popular as ever laugh.gif

Salmond will very rapidly be off menu when the truth dawns-you can fool most of the people some of the time etc!

I would dearly love to see an effective independent Scotland-I genuinely mean that-I just sense that this shower of power by default are already doing more damage than good.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 16:11:14
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 7 2008, 04:01 PM) [snapback]415394[/snapback]
The dives like a plane bit was the reference to being Japanese (Kamikaze rolleyes.gif ). The Chow Mein was in with the original line being sung by the Celtic fans which I agree is a tad more Chinese than Nippon. Anyway eats raw fish doesn't really go with much other than "and his haircut's pish".

He eats sushi and Boruc causes stooshie
mortonjag 2008-03-07 16:14:23
QUOTE(Loveless @ Mar 7 2008, 04:10 PM) [snapback]415399[/snapback]
Me.

Eh-yer not doin' the tooth fairy stuff already are you-just wait 'til wee Nickerless discovers all the dark secrets of the dentist chair and you'll be workin' a ninety hour week before overtime! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-07 16:16:40
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 7 2008, 04:09 PM) [snapback]415398[/snapback]
Did you there is a World Porridge Cooking Contest known as "The Golden Spurtle" ?

Yes- I have won it for the last three years in succession.

Did you know that 'atheroma' means porridge?

I christened you 'Spurtle' because of your inveterate capacity for mindless stirring.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 16:19:18
QUOTE(Loveless @ Mar 7 2008, 04:17 PM) [snapback]415404[/snapback]
Tell me about it.

Thankfully dentists have a much bigger private sector than doctors to work in at the moment.

Honesty will get you everywhere!! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-07 16:23:40
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 7 2008, 04:15 PM) [snapback]415402[/snapback]
After what the last lot done, and the other shower in Westminster both past and present. I have to say...you really are having a laff ??? ! blink.gif

Nope- I though it would be easy as well Spurtle, but they've marched in far too big for their size two bootees-a shower of bloody women led by a power crazed buffoon who gets his daily briefings from the Sporting Life.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 16:28:05
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 7 2008, 03:55 PM) [snapback]415391[/snapback]
As resident of said local, the simple answer is yes. Take the turn off for Kilmarnock / A77 (go past the Govan turnoff and double back at the new purpose built slip road on the Tradeston exit) Go up by the Mearns and take the South Orbital from Newton mearns over to EK. At the first roundabout at the old EK Hilton, go straight on through Stewartfield, right past my house and on to the expressway where Hamilton is but 5 minutes doon the road. Motorway and free flowing traffic all the way!!

That being the ten bedroom neo Victorian mansion with the Roller, Aston, and cayenne parked in the drive, and a huge sign on the wrought iron gates bearing the legend


CHEZ RATARSE! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-07 17:55:26
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 7 2008, 04:56 PM) [snapback]415428[/snapback]
Yes MJ, single handed GPs don't have deputising services in remote areas, agreed. However the main problem is that NHS24 is a disaster and the length of time you need to wait for an appointment now is shocking. And in engineering, while I personally try to avoid unsociable hours, it is common for site engineers in particular to work dawn till dusk to achieve project target dates. I've done overnighters which I didn't like one bit but it's part of the job.

The lasr renegotiation seems to have increased doctors' pay while at the same time letting them reduce their hours. Maybe time to claw that back a bit.

Bet you're glad you;re retired, Ernie!!

I am glad to be retired. I loved my job Alastair-I always gave 100% to my patients, and for the last portion of my working life I was actively involved in the provision of out of hours services for Greater Glasgow-and I MEAN actively-I worked four consecutive thirteen hour shifts every week, Friday to Monday inclusive, and still had time for other interests.

G.P.s are an easy target for all sorts of folk with gripes-indeed they are well paid professionals who often think over highly of themselves, but as a breed I assure you they are still a dedicated bunch, and it's a sad fact that people like Ms Sturgeon see fit to walk roughshod over their sensitivities.

Kenneth Clarke, who was vastly more experienced, almost 'blew it' for the Tories when he imposed the new contract in 1990. Industrial action in the shape of refusal to sign certificates for benefits was avoided by a whisker, and could have totally disrupted the economy.

As I've suggested to Robert, the only way ahead is by negotiation with the 'grass roots'. Much of the current unrest could have been avoided if reality had been faced. I sincerely believe that Ms Sturgeon has done a disservice to the electorate-I predict that in REAL TERMS the service being provided will be no better, and possibly worse than before. G.P.s are clever c*nts you know, and those politicians just adore their little pieces of paper with all the correct boxes ticked.

I am of the opinion that General Practice-in terms of a vital service to patients from doctors is in a worse state today than it was almost twenty years ago. It's easy to make a big show of service provision-just look at any glossy TV advert from a major clearing bank-but G.P.s have been forced away from direct patient contact more and more as they've had to jump through endless bureaucratic hoops-in order that successive governments can produce paperwork to PROVE a failing system is working.

It's sickening Alastair, and I just wish people had more perception of reality instead of being led by the nose.

One final point-NHS 24 was simply cheap labour-trying to get nurses to do a job they were not trained for. It backfired as it was always going to. I don't hate the SNP -just politicians in general-they make me Shipmanesque---



NEXT!
mortonjag 2008-03-07 18:07:00
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 7 2008, 05:37 PM) [snapback]415451[/snapback]
I've got the best by far I'll bet. I design and project manage social housing for poor unwitting souls in Glasgow. My latest project is a care facility for the visually impaired. Today I cunningly placed a column in the middle of the common room. It'll be good entertainment value for the staff don't you think?
(before anyone calls social work, I actually told the Structural Engineer where to stick his column)

Really Mr Edwards- including the anatomical blueprint?
mortonjag 2008-03-07 18:08:06
QUOTE(Tooth & Nail @ Mar 7 2008, 05:59 PM) [snapback]415460[/snapback]
Its such a stressful job tho. I really enjoy it, didn't ever imagine I would end up working in the dentist but there u go biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

bet it must sometimes be like pullin' teeth!



BOOM F*CKIN' BOOM
mortonjag 2008-03-07 18:13:08
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 7 2008, 05:16 PM) [snapback]415445[/snapback]
Take the M8 to Kinning Park, double back on yourself on the M77, M77 to EK turn-off then straight through the s***hole that is Stewartfield and follow the signs for Hamilton. It'll take you an hour at the very most unless you drive like an old woman.

unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-07 18:19:13
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 7 2008, 05:58 PM) [snapback]415458[/snapback]
How do Gretna owe Alibi money?

And was he on a rolling 5-year contract?

He provided his services in good faith-he has been cheated and I'm led to believe, lied to also.

Alibi will not be the only soul in the borders currently chasing Pony Tail for money. I can't help feeling the poor hard done to soul will be back in the safety of his tame hospital again very soon. This time he'll probably die for twenty minutes before producing another miraculous flush of life.


CREEP
mortonjag 2008-03-07 18:24:52
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 7 2008, 04:46 PM) [snapback]415421[/snapback]
mortonjag are you going

I really can hardly see the point Bryan. The Chairman is not daft when it suits him-he's currently trying to weld relations with the fans, and JM has gone. Most people have very short memories, and at the moment I'm only interested in avoiding relegation.

Now if he proposes a meeting in May-where he'll freely and openly discuss the clubs plans for next season, I'll be there.


HE WON'T.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 18:40:45
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 7 2008, 06:39 PM) [snapback]415488[/snapback]
Apart from at the Tesco fish department.
Beggars and choosers comes to mind. tongue.gif
I get paid £30 a week to go to school and get another £35 weekly for delivering 24 Teles per day.
It'll do for the moment.

I got 50p a week for my paper round-well ten bob to be precise.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 18:42:43
QUOTE(capitanus @ Mar 7 2008, 06:33 PM) [snapback]415484[/snapback]
A wee solution to this, why not get enthusiastic junior doctors to man the out-of-hours clinics and gain some valuable experience, and allow all the old b*****d GPs who think that its beneath their dignity to work after 5pm can f*** off back to the Mearns in their Saabs to watch Reporting Scotland.

Quacks the lot of them.

That sounds just perfect to me.

Have you 'phoned the nickerless one yet?
mortonjag 2008-03-07 18:45:11
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 7 2008, 06:42 PM) [snapback]415493[/snapback]
Welcome to socialism. smile.gif
Was that decent back in the day?

It was the going rate and didn't change for years. Bear in mind that when the new Mini was manufactured it only cost about five hundred quid.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 18:50:17
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 7 2008, 06:40 PM) [snapback]415489[/snapback]
Here's a chance to direct your opinions face to face and you're knocking it back.....whatever happened to having courage in your convictions? rolleyes.gif

Would you care to specify exactly where you feel I have lost 'the courage of my convictions'?

I have stated why I feel this early meeting is not the time to cause unrest,but steps HAVE been taken to remedy the most glaring problem.

I will be extremely interested to hear the club's plans after we secure our first division status.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 18:51:34
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 7 2008, 06:43 PM) [snapback]415494[/snapback]
s***ebag

With posters like you my bag will always be overflowing.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 18:53:21
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Mar 7 2008, 06:24 PM) [snapback]415478[/snapback]
Wow, it's just out of order to wish harm upon the guy.

DID I ???
mortonjag 2008-03-07 18:55:43
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 7 2008, 06:43 PM) [snapback]415495[/snapback]
Getting a bit personal there, MJ.

Nothing more personal than being unable to feed your weans because some rich b*****d won't pay bills.

My attitude to that man has been constant from day one-he has much to answer for.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 19:10:29
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 7 2008, 06:52 PM) [snapback]415503[/snapback]
Not having the nuts to translate the endless diatribe you spout on here to Dougie Rae's face smacks of lacking courage in your convictions.

What do I know though, eh? rolleyes.gif

Don't be a clown-Shoogly has messengers and knows pretty well what's being said on this rag.

I have the sense and experience not to disrupt any good that's currently being done at the club-as I stated avoiding relegation is a priority.

Why is it that when I lay off Mr Rae in acknowledgement of his change in position I'm accused of 'lacking courage'. Choosing the wrong time and place to make a fuss is stupidity, not bravery.

Somehow I can't help feeling that the real truth is that some of our more deviant posters are missing my anti Shoogly diatribes-lacking, as they do the courage of their own convictions.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 19:16:45
QUOTE(capitanus @ Mar 7 2008, 06:56 PM) [snapback]415508[/snapback]
Who? This one:

Click Here
laugh.gif

No no-- you misunderstood me-I was referring to a Ms. Nickerless Surgeon of Holyrood or thereabouts-more likely thereabouts at this time of night I'd imagine-possibly checking that her state funded B.U.P.A. subscription's well up to date before her weekly visit to the private facial depilatory clinic.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 19:21:41
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 7 2008, 07:16 PM) [snapback]415513[/snapback]
Yet you constantly whinge about him not facing these issues to the fans. When the chance arises you suddenly think there are more important issues at hand

I fail to see how questioning Dougie on his need to splash cash on Paul McGowan, the lack of youth set up, the crap commercial side of the club or the dozens of other things you have against Dougie will, in any way, affect Davie Irons or the Morton players.

Because laying off Dougie Rae will only be temporary. You'll remain quiet until after this event and, as soon as it's over, you'll pick at certain answers, or lack of answers, Dougie gives at the event. You'll continue to bitch and moan and whine for another year until the next Q & A turns up and I look forward to your excuse for not attending that one.

Do you think it's advisable and in the club's best interest that I go to this meeting and rake up mud at a time when we appear to be pulling together?

I don't-I won't be there, and if you feel the job is worth doing at this juncture, be my guest.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 19:43:31
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 7 2008, 07:35 PM) [snapback]415518[/snapback]
I've not read this thread but I'm thinking it's probably chock-a-block full of self-indulgent s***e from MJ. Am I right? huh.gif

YES



Now f*ck off and give us NHS users peace, you slimy ship jumper.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 19:46:39
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 7 2008, 07:29 PM) [snapback]415516[/snapback]
I wont be in the country. So can't attend.

However the points you constantly bring up are surely more important than the current short term aims are they not? If they are is important as your post count suggests do you think it's advisable not to bring them up?

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

..and folk like you lecture me about courage of convictions!

Not good enough my friend-not good enough by a long chalk. Where are your priorities? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-07 19:48:22
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Mar 7 2008, 07:43 PM) [snapback]415520[/snapback]
I agree with everything said here. I certainly won't be shedding any tears if they get thrown out of Scottish football. Some people think I'm mad when I say this, but I hate Gretna more than I hate St. Mirren.

Snap-the midden can't help being scum.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 19:54:53 They've had their day in the sun-I never imagined for a minute I could feel an ounce of pity for them but I strangely do.

Mind you I'd predict that there must still be at least three who believe the sun shines out of Mr Mileson's arse.

Sorry days for the bumpkins-you have my commiserations.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 19:59:51
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 7 2008, 07:52 PM) [snapback]415526[/snapback]
I do apologise if my being hundres of miles away stops me from attending. My priority is starting a new job in a new country. What's your excuse? Will you be sitting at home with the super glue mending that bottle that crashed?

However, unlike you, I haven't spent years going on and on about all these "problems" and wanting my chance to deliver these grumblings to Dougie. I'm out of the country and will be for eight months. What's your excuse for not attending?


laugh.gif laugh.gif
Enjoy the 'Big Hoose' and learn to behave yourself next time.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 20:04:29
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 7 2008, 08:00 PM) [snapback]415534[/snapback]
I see Prescriptions up to £7.10 mad.gif Naw hawd on....relax...phew ! it's only in England laugh.gif

That's right, the nasty SNP government are scrapping Prescription charges in Scotland tongue.gif

Simply because they haven't the wit to implement them fairly and properly. Prescription charges were always a widespread 'cheats' charter', with numerous inherent anomalies. I'm not sorry to see them go, but as with everything Spurtle, the loss of revenue will have to be made up from elsewhere.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 20:09:02
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 7 2008, 08:03 PM) [snapback]415537[/snapback]
you are a f***ing penis. dougie rae would kick your c*** in.

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mortonjag 2008-03-07 20:09:46
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 7 2008, 08:03 PM) [snapback]415538[/snapback]
I'm going to Jersey. The "big hoose" has been shut down. Not been watching the news? tongue.gif

Aye-right!
mortonjag 2008-03-07 20:16:40
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 7 2008, 08:06 PM) [snapback]415543[/snapback]
MJ it's been mere weeks since you last posted that DDF should step down for the good of the club, how can your priorities have changed that much that quickly?

My priority for several months has been to avoid relegation. We latterly seemed hell bent in that direction. Things have changed and I believe a period of relative stability is in the best interest of all who love the club.

My opinions on Mr Rae have not substantially changed.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 20:23:58
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 7 2008, 08:12 PM) [snapback]415549[/snapback]
How's the weather in Cloud Cuckoo Land?

Look at your thermometer you clot.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 20:25:36
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 7 2008, 08:13 PM) [snapback]415550[/snapback]
I've won a watch.

Is it a big hand and wee hand one-we don't want you getting confused with numbers.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 20:29:11
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 7 2008, 08:25 PM) [snapback]415557[/snapback]
Sorry DE, I beg to differ. If you support one of the bigot brothers then you're a bigot. End of.

Those who claim differently are like those who voted for apartheid and claimed not to be a racist.

Fraid I'm with Mr Edwards on this one-of course we're probably just a pair of old fuddy duddies who believe erroneously that things are not always either black or white.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 20:37:20
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 7 2008, 08:32 PM) [snapback]415564[/snapback]
If you support bigotry, you're a bigot. It's not rocket science auld yin, I'm sure even you can get yer auld heid round that. wink.gif

Put plainly and simply you believe that every OF supporter is a bigot.

That does not surprise me-you clearly have lived a very sheltered life where two and two always make four and doughnuts with holes are dough rings.

Ever thought about growing up, or is that a too daunting challenge?
mortonjag 2008-03-07 20:39:38
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 7 2008, 08:37 PM) [snapback]415572[/snapback]
Me

My bags are packed and I'm ready to go!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-07 20:44:45
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 7 2008, 08:33 PM) [snapback]415565[/snapback]
Correct, we don't control the revenue we raise in Taxes. We only get pocket money from Westminster.

Think about it Ernie -boy wink.gif

That is frankly a pathetic whine Spurtle-poor wee Bawheid on the overnight coach to Westminster to fill up his wee string bag with more pennies.

Please don't make an even bigger laughing stock of yourself by telling ME to think.

Little boy-here is your well earned pocket money-it is now yours and you may spend it exactly as you choose.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 20:46:36
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 7 2008, 08:39 PM) [snapback]415573[/snapback]
Is ageism the last resort of the witless?

Is disparagement of learning difficulty the last resort of the aged? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-07 20:56:04
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 7 2008, 08:43 PM) [snapback]415577[/snapback]
Yes.
If that means being like you, no.

It strikes me that anybody who baldly states that every OF fan is a 'bigot' displays an unhealthy level of intolerance, not to say ignorance.

I do not believe for one minute that my Hun son is any more of a bigot than my Tim daughter-both were born and bred in Glasgow-neither had a religious upbringing of any kind, and for different reasons they have chosen to support different Glasgow teams. I am not ashamed of either of them-much though I'd have preferred them to support Morton.

I'd not describe you as a bigot-more a PIGOT-don't ask me why-it just suits you to a tee.

There again---pig...ignorant.....idiot-aha!!!
mortonjag 2008-03-07 20:59:47
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Mar 7 2008, 08:33 PM) [snapback]415566[/snapback]
Indeed they do, you included. mad.gif

Would you care to expand Smiffy or is that beyond your wit?
mortonjag 2008-03-07 21:04:13
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 7 2008, 09:00 PM) [snapback]415584[/snapback]
MJ...... news just in.... OF fans are bigots.

Get over it.

Repeating yourself endlessly doesn't really add any weight to an initially stupid proposition.

Frankly it's no big deal what you think on the matter-many OF fans are not bigots-FACT.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 21:12:57
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Mar 7 2008, 09:08 PM) [snapback]415587[/snapback]
In general, OF fans are bigots.

On average, OF fans are less intelligent than those that support other teams.

True on both counts.

Equally it might be argued that most Scottish ex-pats living in Belgium would be incapable of causing a row in an empty house.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 21:20:05
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 7 2008, 09:13 PM) [snapback]415590[/snapback]
Where's the customer/patient in all this?

Who actually (and really) looks at care from the customer/patient point of view?

Why on earth do GP's not seek or ask their customers/patients what levels of service they actually want???

Name one other service industry where services are so atrociously managed that you cannot get access to the service when you need it and service is so bad that priorities are given to those 'who only want to pull a sickie'? i.e. you get 8 minutes

It's time for change - I suggest:

1. P&L accountability be removed from GP's
2. The service is completely overhauled to prevent the current 'can't see the wood for the trees!' approach to patient care and the patient placed at the centre of the new 'patient care' model
3. If you are an NHS funded GP in charge of an NHS funded practise - that's what you should be doing all the time - full stop
4. Drug users/Under 16 mother of 3's/ persistant 'two holidays a year and a car' back problems/monday morning 'sick notes' - should be sent to a new centralised health service
5. Doctors adopt a new we are here when you need us methodology - remember the laws of demand and supply
6. Encourage and train new Doctors in their droves and target children in their early teens on this
6. Doctors be measured on success and rewarded appropriately - with success being things like:-

Lowering the average level of patient cholesterol
Reducing the number of smokers in the practise
Pro actively targeting patients on the 'issues of the year/decade' e.g. testicular cancer

and so on and so on and so on

Let's face it - it's time for change and it's well known that people don't like change (at any level) - maybe the politicians aren't so wrong here - at least they are taking a 'working person's view on a solution' - unlike our GP's, let's not forget that GP's are providing a service here!

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You REALLY haven't a clue-have you? If I start on you I guess I'd never stop, but as I've said to others, feel free to p.m. if you want some 'coal face' information.

It gets bloody wearing listening to all you self appointed specialists-I'd just love to see you standing outside a field shouting instructions to an experienced ploughman! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-07 21:26:30
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 7 2008, 09:20 PM) [snapback]415602[/snapback]
Indeed they are - and like every other working person they should operate within the same framework as other working people - one which is dictated based on who they are 'providing a service too'

When was the last time there was significant change to GP patient care??

Jesus suffering Christ-they haven't stopped shifting the bloody goalposts for almost twenty years-no matter how hard genuine and caring doctors have tried to deliver the service FAIRLY and relative to true priority, they have been baulked by outside meddling.

What exactly is your agenda-if you are just ignorant of fact I can excuse you, but trouble making liars are despicable scum.
mortonjag 2008-03-07 21:30:06
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 7 2008, 09:14 PM) [snapback]415592[/snapback]
At least none of my kids are thick bigots.

Personally, I blame the parents.

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mortonjag 2008-03-07 21:36:29
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 7 2008, 09:29 PM) [snapback]415607[/snapback]
I'm afraid I have no agenda - I only speak from bitter experience.

I'm looking inside from the outside - not pissing out from the inside

Would you care to share the bitter experience-comments like that are very emotive, and I've had one or two bitter experiences in the NHS too. Most people with 'bitter experiences' end up having an agenda, but you may be one of life's exceptional people.

I think what you're really saying is that you are indiscriminately pissing on the inside. If you wish I can assist you in directing your penis towards the appropriate recipients of your excrement.
mortonjag 2008-03-08 09:27:25
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 7 2008, 09:44 PM) [snapback]415618[/snapback]
analogy?

No thanks on the offer and looks like I must be one of lifes exceptional people.

Thank you-yet another who hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest. The offer remains open, along with personal medical advice from a vastly experienced, knowledgeable, and caring practitioner, should you find your current service provider unable to come up to your requisite standards.
mortonjag 2008-03-08 09:31:54
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Mar 7 2008, 10:14 PM) [snapback]415632[/snapback]
Yeah, your probably right. I suppose the lure of the filthy lucre is probably too much..."I will follow that system of regimen which, according to my ability and judgment, I consider for the benefit of my patients, and abstain from whatever is deleterious and mischievous. "

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You STILL haven't produced the evidence HT-honestly I'm on tenterhooks.

Last time I checked, private General Practice was virtually non-existent in Scotland.

Perhaps you've been slightly confused, though I'm certain an informed chappie like you must know that G.P.s are self employed people.

Goodness gracious-self employed people making some money for THEMSELVES.
That surely must be the incarnation of evil! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-08 09:45:38
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 8 2008, 12:03 AM) [snapback]415674[/snapback]
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Touché wink.gif

Mr Edwards has achieved what Mortonjag cannot-a 'touche' from Herpes Coirot-Belgium's entry to this years' Mr. Mussel.

Can the little mollusc do it this time-g'on yershell.

Sonny boy! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-08 09:50:37
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 7 2008, 09:31 PM) [snapback]415610[/snapback]
Yes indeed MJ, and I'm proud they they are neither thick nor bigoted.

More than you can say, eh. wink.gif

That does not surprise me-even thickness and bigotry require elemental neuronal tissue.
mortonjag 2008-03-08 09:53:51
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 7 2008, 11:54 PM) [snapback]415666[/snapback]
No apologies required CHC. I fully understand the condition you suffer from. I hope you get better soon. laugh.gif

Don't be silly Mr Edwards-the poor lad ENJOYS his ill health-probably one of Ms. Sturgeon's disciples as he pushes the frailer aside in his orgasmic leap for the freebie 'big bottle' of pills! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-08 09:57:17
QUOTE(Loveless @ Mar 8 2008, 12:22 AM) [snapback]415686[/snapback]
Nothing wrong with being a bigot, as long as you're a Catholic bigot.

Nothing wrong with apartheid either, actually.

I must confess I'm more partial to the Proddy bigots-they have that certain-je ne sais quoi.


Apartheid-aye I've always advocated surgery for Siamese twins.
mortonjag 2008-03-08 10:02:36 Once worked in Shieldhall sewage plant-well it wasn't really work-just went through the motions.
mortonjag 2008-03-08 10:23:55
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Mar 7 2008, 10:29 PM) [snapback]415642[/snapback]
I have to agree with Naitch here, mj.

No matter how you dress it up you've the perfect chance to speak to Mr Rae face to face and air your concerns. That IS what these events are for, points being raised and questions asked, whether positive or negative.

My personal take is you're a bit embarassed at certain comments you've made ie. the continual reference to "Shoogly" and would rather remain out of the public eye.

I suppose I could be wrong.

I'm not in any way embarrassed by anything I've ever said about that old clown-and he's not changed and never will. He's well aware who I am, and equally well aware of the writings on this little rag.

I simply believe that avoiding relegation matters far more to me than any individual personality. At the moment the wittering old buffoon is playing it 'low key'-he's 'apologised' laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif to those who cannot see through waffle, and is taking full credit for Irons/Collins despite claiming he was devastated to lose JM.

It's perfectly simple Bob-if I'm going to put the boot into the old fud, I'll do it when he's down-it should have been done in February, and I'm damned sure I wouldn't have been the only one.

There is absolutely no point in turning up at the all new happy clappy Shoogly roadshow with a big frown on the coupon-the time is not right-there again if we ship fifteen goals in the next two matches-WHO KNOWS? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-08 10:39:49
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Mar 8 2008, 02:31 AM) [snapback]415723[/snapback]
I assume the questions you wanted to ask on January the 20th are still relevant today. I don't think polite and probing questions will cause much unrest with the new management team or players, although they may fluster Douglas Rae.

I think everyone has gripes with the way Douglas Rae is running Morton but you have been on a one man mission to highlight them and continually go on about them on numerous posts on here. Referring to 'shoogly' and 'fudgy wudgys' on a regular basis - something it's very easy to do behind a keyboard.

As someone who's not inclined to ask a question at something like this myself I would never usually suggest that someone else should but the way you have championed the cause against Douglas Rae I think you lose all legitimacy if you don't ask the questions you have deemed so pertinent over the last year or so, especially for reasons such as: you are only focused on avoiding relegation or you dont want to cause unrest. Fair enough if you cant actually make it or that you are too shy.

It has nothing to do with being shy or running scared-as I've already stated Rae knows about the groundswell of opinion at any given time, and is well aware of the 'troublemakers'.

He deliberately and calculatedly postponed the scheduled Shoogly Show-the old fudd bottled it-he knows it, and you know it. The fans' patience had been stretched to breaking point and he knew he'd be in deep s***.

HE is the one who's changed the rules of the game-waited until the unthinking masses have calmed down before announcing his new 'I speak-you listen' spectacle.

Rae is the man who has NO respect for anybody except himself. Mortonjag is not daft enough to flutter into the spiders web of a stage managed ego trip.

I'm right behind the new management-they may prove useless, but they have my full support-I have no intention of rocking the boat for them in any way, until we've had time to make fair assessment.
mortonjag 2008-03-08 10:40:42
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 8 2008, 10:31 AM) [snapback]415758[/snapback]
Somebody's shat it laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-08 10:43:46
QUOTE(Lifelongfan @ Mar 8 2008, 03:00 AM) [snapback]415725[/snapback]
Wow you never cease to surprise me with your sarcasism!

Anyway. for what it's worth, I;ve still got to respond

You really are have to be one of the most conceited, attention seeking, witless (Yup you'te really not very funny at all, despite what you may think) and insulting persons that I've ever come across in my entire life - not to mention IGNORANT oh dear I've mentioned it again!

....and although I realise that you thrive and love it whem we, meagre mortals, rise to your bait and respond to your jibes and general nasty comments - I still couldn't rseist the temptation to do so and well, it makes me feel better just to let you know what I think of you, maybe I'm not alone with my thoughts!

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mortonjag 2008-03-08 10:51:29
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Mar 8 2008, 08:54 AM) [snapback]415735[/snapback]
I've never been to one but for those that have, is there a point to these gatherings. Do we actually get to hear things that either we don't already know, or an honest assessment of where we're doing things right or wrong?

Do folk actually question the top table, press for answers and get them, or is it a just lip service to the idea of genuine communication.

You've hit the nail right on the head. The only time the fans could ever make an impression at one of Shoogly's soirees is when they've had just about enough and are in 'lynch mob' mood.

That is why the scheduled show was postponed.

Rae has NO interest in what the true fan wants, and he always believes he knows best. It's a measure of the man's crass insensitivity that after a pathetic excuse for an apology, and the accumulation of a mere three point from six by the new management team he apparently never wanted in the first place, he now sees everything as back to 'fine and dandy'.
mortonjag 2008-03-08 10:59:19
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 8 2008, 10:46 AM) [snapback]415764[/snapback]
You made a name for yourself on here by ostensibly being one of the enlightened few who could see all the problems at the club, but now you're only willing to go if you have a mob at your back?

That's poor.

Really Nach0-'poor' or just plain 'sensible'.

I'd be more than happy to sit down with Mr Rae-just the two of us. I'd treat him with utmost courtesy, and have little doubt he'd return the compliment. I would not, however, expect him to 'hear' a single word I uttered.

Shoogly is a bully by nature-he's used to being the boss and getting his own way. Only when the horrific reality of our impending doom under JM suddenly dawned was he willing to concede an inch, but was still 'DEVASTATED' to let his puppet off the strings.

My message to you and my other detractors on this thread is perfectly simple. I have no respect for Douglas Rae except in that we are fellow humans.

He does not impress me, nor does he frighten me. I have always seen his meddlings with our club as those of a dyslexic little boy playing with a complicated computer game.

He probably means well.

In fact I believe he does.
mortonjag 2008-03-08 11:09:25
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 8 2008, 10:43 AM) [snapback]415763[/snapback]
Well, this is your opportunity to prove him wrong. To make it not an "I speak-you listen spectacle".

You moan on here constantly about 'Shoogly' then are presented with the oppotunity to publicly put your views to him and decide to not.

From here on in any argument you give on here aimed at Dougie is pointless, as you clearly are a keyboard assassin who runs scared when the real life opportunity comes up! dry.gif

Grow up Puggs-there is no more public a way of airing my views than on this forum-FFS EVERYBODY seems to know what they are.

You and the other clowns just want a wee bit of drama-I'm more than happy to meet Rae on anything resembling a level playing field, and I am sincere when I suggest that a period of calm is in order while the new management beds in.

Seems to me there are a few sad c*nts on here suffering withdrawal symptoms from MJ not firing the cannonballs for them.
mortonjag 2008-03-08 11:10:47
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 8 2008, 10:58 AM) [snapback]415775[/snapback]
what a f***ing loser.



Rich
mortonjag 2008-03-08 11:12:00
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 8 2008, 11:02 AM) [snapback]415778[/snapback]
That's a bit of a personal attack there, so unlike you MJ.

Nothing of the sort-merely observations. I have been wrong on occasion.
mortonjag 2008-03-08 11:16:31
QUOTE(Toby @ Mar 8 2008, 10:48 AM) [snapback]415765[/snapback]
Mortonjag,

Come on, this is ridiculous. I decided a while ago that I'll not attend anything organised by Morton except a game whilst Raemanov's in charge, but now this has been announced I feel I have to attend. I, like yourself am one of his biggest critics, and by not attending, I'd be giving him the easy ride he's expecting. So, you might be unpopular if you pose a few questions that the happy clappers feel is rocking the boat, so what? It's never bothered you on the board.

I think I'd struggle to sit in the same room as him but it's the sacrafice you have to make if you want things sorted. It's the first real opportunity you have to put him on the spot. He may very well have his minions (AB?) going back reading this "rag", but whilst questions aren't being directly put to him he has no need to answer them.

Show the courage to stand by what you say on the board, you're looking like the epitomy of a keyboard hard man.

Toby-I guess you are correct in principle. Do you honestly believe that I, you, or anybody else will get a genuine hearing? It's a long round trip on a bitter winter's evening just to be ignored or talked down. OK for the punters who can slope off early to the local if they end up bored to tears after half an hour. Anyway-convince me! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-08 11:19:37
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 8 2008, 11:16 AM) [snapback]415791[/snapback]
So we are all clowns now?

I don't go to the Q and As, they are not my cup of tea so thinking I want some sick kick out of two old men getting into a heated argument is quite mistaken.

And I think airing your views in a public meeting, and not behind a message board sock-puppet, straight to the person the majority of your views are about would do a lot more than sitting on here, day after day, typing away like a maniac repeating the same bile over and over again.

At the end of the day, we have all saw you for what you are. All words and no action, a keyboard hard man. If you had DDFR's mobile number you would be the kind of person who would phone him up shouting while withholding your own number! It's pathetic really!

If myself, and the rest of the 'clowns' on this 'rag' (you sound like him more and more wink.gif) are wrong and you are right then I would rather be wrong, but somehow I don't think the majority of people reading this thread would think we are wrong.

At least out of this, Dougie get's the smug satisfaction of knowing he has beat you while you continue to type your wee heartfelt messages on here.

Good for you, now go find the nurse for your medicine smile.gif

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I wasn't even aware there was a contest in progress Puggs!
mortonjag 2008-03-08 11:27:09
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Mar 8 2008, 11:17 AM) [snapback]415793[/snapback]
I'm not trying to hit nails MJ I'm just genuinely interested in what fans think about these nights and whether they are worthwhile. So far nobody has answered that but I'm a patient/hopeful sorta guy smile.gif

The message from previous shows has been that that's exactly what they are-stage managed 'Rallies' by the Maestro with the mike-the man who will NEVER have the balls to let the show go on when things are not just as he wants them.

I fully accept that the way things are I'd be on 'a hiding to nothing' by attending. I DID want to go to the meeting scheduled for February-I felt that might have been fiery enough to initiate some change. it was, of course, abandoned!

I'm also getting slightly pissed off with the puerile macho stuff-accusing folk of not having the courage of their convictions when they openly express them on the forum is a bit daft, but I must remember that the mentality of the average fan always seems to incorporate that crumb of physical aggro!

The pen is mightier than the sword.
mortonjag 2008-03-08 11:28:20
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 8 2008, 11:26 AM) [snapback]415798[/snapback]
Exactly, that was the kind of answer he's getting so upset that Dougie would answer like.

i think there is a personality clash between them because they are both so alike its unbelievable.

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If only you really knew me!!
mortonjag 2008-03-08 11:33:52
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Mar 8 2008, 11:10 AM) [snapback]415785[/snapback]
It is bollox, good luck to the lad for getting a job, but for slating someone for not attending when he is not going to attend either is bollox.

Thats like me slagging him for not being at the game last week if I didnt attend myself. Sheep culture, just following onto what everyone else is doing.

Erm Scotsguy40-I have a prior engagement for that evening which will involve my being in London overnight.


That is in fact the honest truth, but I knew nobody would believe a word of it, and frankly am ashamed that I didn't just confess in the first place. wink.gif

Sorry Mr Rae-it would have been lovely to re-acquaint myself with your hallowed personage, but you know what it's like with those International Conferences.

Enjoy your wee ego trip.
mortonjag 2008-03-08 11:35:21
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 8 2008, 11:30 AM) [snapback]415802[/snapback]
if only i did sad.gif

you dont tell me how you're feeling anymore, why dont you talk to me?

you've changed.

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Mortonjag is one of the good guys PT that's why so many hate him! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-08 11:39:03
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Mar 8 2008, 10:16 AM) [snapback]415751[/snapback]
Im a wringerer ooter for a 1 armed windae cleaner.

I've never been a fan of one armed windaes-they're a f*ckin pane TBH.
mortonjag 2008-03-08 11:41:34
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Mar 8 2008, 10:37 AM) [snapback]415759[/snapback]
Why work for a company like that? Thats whats wrong with this country, workforces accepting crap conditions like that.

Im with the Docs on this one. Why should they have to work extra hours? Doctors have familys too and interests outside of work as well.

Its one job I dont envy, body mechanics that if they make an error some wee eejit is away running to the papers and claiming compensation and wanting to cost some person their career. Id much rather have the knowledge that if I have to go and see my Doc he's awake and making proper decisions than one who's just done two late nights a sunday and a nightshift.

Careful Scotsguy-if you don't watch you'll be suggesting that doctors WANT to be able to help their patients.
mortonjag 2008-03-08 11:44:00
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Mar 8 2008, 11:39 AM) [snapback]415808[/snapback]
These nights could very well be worthwhile, if DDF has an honest open debate regarding the long (and his families) term commitment to Morton and what if any progress we may see under this.
If their commitment is short term the path to the future could be mapped out for us all to scrutinise.

I truely believe DDF is a genuine Morton fan, and as one surely now is the time to answer those more testing questions, but I fear we will be fed the usual claptrap of what HE wants us to hear.
That is the main problem with these gatherings, they are on his terms, and as long as they remain on his terms probing questions will not be given a straight answer.

But you never know, he may change the habit of a lifetime
and be open to all in attendance. rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-08 11:46:04
QUOTE(midTONs @ Mar 8 2008, 10:11 AM) [snapback]415750[/snapback]
You just sweep the water off that surface but I believe there is a burn that runs down the side of NDP that can over flow and can flood the pitch.

But there is no danger of the game today being called off.

Have they got the trick camera rigged up and ready for action?
mortonjag 2008-03-08 12:17:07
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Mar 8 2008, 12:04 PM) [snapback]415823[/snapback]
Right "auld yin" tongue.gif . What has a direct cost of ~£40 and is charged to the "customers" for ~ £600? Give me a nod and maybe we can go into business together? laugh.gif

That sounds to me like profiteering-I'd hate to think it was also profiteering in the area of necessary treatment.

A meal for three at one of Effin'Gordon's little Bistros perhaps? ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-08 12:22:03
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 8 2008, 11:23 AM) [snapback]415795[/snapback]
it's funny for me watching you wriggle like f*** on this hook, but i bet you're nearly crying. you've been shown up as a hypocrite and a coward.

ha ha ha.

You appear to have a somewhat pathologically unhealthy interest in my undoing, but keep your eyes open for that big fishy-he's HUNGRY.
mortonjag 2008-03-08 12:25:14
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Mar 8 2008, 11:52 AM) [snapback]415817[/snapback]
Erm MJ,
I was merely pointing out that REDSOX, was giving you some banter about you not attending when he in fact was not attending also, last time I back you up rolleyes.gif laugh.gif

I understood and TY-but redsox is going to Jail, whereas I have to attend an international conference on 'Micropenis-latest developments in surgery'.
mortonjag 2008-03-08 12:32:00
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Mar 8 2008, 11:57 AM) [snapback]415819[/snapback]
Not been a bad boy in my eyes, but I won't disagree he needs punished (but MJ may just enjoy that, especially if old DDF was wielding a cricket bat at his bare arse. tongue.gif )

'...and I'll give you Fudgy Wudgys son-WALLOP..WALLOP..WALLOP..I'll AULD SHOOGLY you..WALLOP..WALLOP..WALLOP..I'll wipe that leer off your face..WALLOP..WALLOP..WALLOP..AND THIS HURTS ME MORE THAN IT HURTS YOU..PANT..PANT.......THUD...


'Ms Donaldson-Mr Rae appears to be unwell-does the club have a defibrillator to hand please'?

mortonjag 2008-03-08 12:35:06 Has anyone noticed the striking resemblances between the Iron Lady and Auld Shoogly-the fans' favourite.
mortonjag 2008-03-08 12:53:11
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 8 2008, 12:48 PM) [snapback]415854[/snapback]
Because I never spent the last year aiming digs and critiques at the way Morton was run constantly greetin' for a chance to air my views to Dougie Rae personally. MortonJag did and it's as simple as that. Also, not being in the country is a pretty good excuse I reckon. If I had, however, spent a good year bitching and whining in the way MortonJag has, however, I would be thinking of taking the day of work and flying back up for it such is the importance it seems to have in his life.

To be honest MentalJag has a sorta Holmes/Moriarty thing going on here and he knows if he faced Dougie and got answers from him he'd have no point left in his life.
It's got very little to do with the "reason" but more to do with Mental's stance on Dougie. We all know it, hell, even Dougie knows it surely. And for all his posturing he doesn't have the cojones to back it up. For all his talk about Dougie getting an easy ride at these events perhaps it's no wonder if the people who have "valid" points like MentalJag are too busy thinking up excuses.
Well if I never went to the game because I was working or out the country you'd have no right to slag me. If I didn't go to the game because I was scared I'd be shown up for a s***ebag you may be onto something wink.gif
Toby aint sure he'll get a genuine hearing. Maybe it'll be like a New Labour conference and any dissenters will be ejected from the premises. Infact Toby will probably be barred from entering. However Toby is man enough to find out. He'll go and ask the questions you're to chicken-s*** to ask in real life. If he gets ignored so Dougie's rosey little new world continues unabated then so be it: he has more fuel for his fire and for all the times people disagree with Toby on this forum he clearly has convictions he stands by.
The MentalJag way: ignore 90% of the post and pick up one part that he can make a wee joke about. Only to be used when an argument is lost of course.
Pugs does look a bit like the guy outta Pop-Up Pirate to be fair.

So you won't be there then?
mortonjag 2008-03-08 12:56:34
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 8 2008, 12:42 PM) [snapback]415851[/snapback]
Don't know if you can....you run scared of Dougie if he is in public wink.gif

He terrifies the s*** out of me Puggs if the truth be told-reminds me a bit of that ex-wife they haven't found yet.
mortonjag 2008-03-08 12:58:21
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 8 2008, 12:53 PM) [snapback]415859[/snapback]
You're a fud

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When does your period of incarceration commence BTW?
mortonjag 2008-03-08 13:02:23
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 8 2008, 12:59 PM) [snapback]415866[/snapback]
I'll be gutted if she dies when I'm Jersey. Please let it be on the weekend of my going away party.

You seem rather keen to have us all know of your scheduled eight months in an undisclosed area of Jersey.

Is this your first time in the Bar L?

I can put in a good word if you like!
mortonjag 2008-03-08 13:06:16
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 8 2008, 12:57 PM) [snapback]415863[/snapback]
Summed up perfectly.

You are another who has no belief in the power of the rag-ex Mod?

Ach well have a good boot when you think I'm down. There is more than one way of skinning a cat. Direct confrontation has a place-but only very occasionally in my experience.
mortonjag 2008-03-08 13:09:54
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 8 2008, 01:00 PM) [snapback]415867[/snapback]
About eight months after you piss me off so much I end up throttling you.

(who am I kidding? there aint a court in the land that would convict me... maybe some community service)

It's quite amusing to hear you assume that you could 'throttle' me. Is this something you have already practised to perfection? Your violent outbursts worry me. Learn to calm down son, but failing that I'll be happy to arrange a meeting with you. I will, of course, bring along the Monkey, and a couple of big Polis! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-08 13:15:49
QUOTE(El gofer @ Mar 8 2008, 01:07 PM) [snapback]415871[/snapback]
Ha! Nice one puggs!!!

LCM great point. Brilliant how the hang them flog them brigade on Question Time also advocate Thatcher in a way that revisionists see Hitler as "having a few good ideas".

The tories messed up our society soemthing rotten and people need to remember that when thinking about Cameron. Thatcher was more unpopular than Blair around Iraq 2003, in the early 80s. She was only saved by a Labour Party in meltdown and tabloid support around the Falklands.

Can you think of anything good that she did?

The reason I ask is that she remained in power for a long time and folk seemed to keep voting her back in.
mortonjag 2008-03-08 13:23:42
QUOTE(tom @ Mar 8 2008, 01:04 PM) [snapback]415869[/snapback]
I have more sympathy with the Clydebank fans. IMO, the whole Gretna thing has been a joke. The last straw for me was when they barred us from their social club. After having to q for a pee in lopsided portable bogs as well...........Arrogant bass's ! I was sick of hearing their sugar daddy talking about the problems with Scottish football on tv & radio as well.

I was even more sick of the media hype and unquestioning public acceptance Tom.

Gretna is smaller than bloody Kilmacolm, and Gretna FC as portrayed by 'Living the Dream' was always a huge joke.

It never fails to amaze me how gullible the public can be!
mortonjag 2008-03-08 13:33:08
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 8 2008, 01:24 PM) [snapback]415880[/snapback]
St. Saviours if yer interested.

Are you going for the tomato picking?
mortonjag 2008-03-08 13:39:32
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 8 2008, 01:26 PM) [snapback]415881[/snapback]
You're too scared to arrange a meeting with another old man in a large hall with hundreds of other people. I very much doubt you'd meet me smile.gif

Hundreds of people EH-the old fart will be lucky if he drags in twenty.

Enough of your ageism my child-it's most 'un PC' and you wouldn't catch me behaving like that.

Don't be fooled by the 'old mentaljag' image-the semi professional wrestling still brings in a few bucks.

Welcome to the world of the MIGHTY SHOOGLEMASHER.
mortonjag 2008-03-08 13:43:26
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 8 2008, 01:27 PM) [snapback]415882[/snapback]
Wooohooo!

You were mentioned on a scabby wee radio show-NO REALLY-SHOCKEROONEY-well that's you set up for life. Well done, and I'd shake your hand if I wasn't afraid of your throttling apparatus!
mortonjag 2008-03-08 13:47:51
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Mar 8 2008, 01:41 PM) [snapback]415892[/snapback]
about the best prime minister in my lifetime. At least she had the balls to stand up to people unlike recent p.m.s . I am of the mindset that it wasn,t thatcher who ruined our country but the onset of weak minded liberals who have turned this place into a land of victims and given the minorities power over the majority of citizens.

I agree with some of that, and I was delighted when she humped that evil c*nt Scargill.

I do, however, believe that she left our society more polarised than ever before-greed became the in word, and money the God.
mortonjag 2008-03-08 13:51:02
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 8 2008, 01:43 PM) [snapback]415893[/snapback]
I'm sure the message board has its uses and I'm quite certain that it played a part in last week's programme column, but the Q&A is to a great extent an open forum. You may not get answers as detailed as you'd like or feel that they any questions were answered correctly, but the questions aren't pre-scripted.

You've spun that very sweetly-I still find myself tempted! Is body armour allowed under the dress code?
mortonjag 2008-03-09 07:25:29
QUOTE(Kaney @ Mar 8 2008, 03:38 PM) [snapback]415928[/snapback]
You're disgraceful MJ.

If you're not going to go and air your issues or concerns with the one man that CAN change things at the club, the please, oh please, stop moaning about it to us. We've had enough, the majority dont agree with you, and most importantly, we cant do f*ck all about it.

You truly are a greetin' faced loser.

Would you like to identify YOURSELVES?

I've published my identity on the forum more than once. Name-address-the lot!

Unlike Cornbeef who has the temerity to call me a keyboard assassin, and LCM, (a.k.a. 'I'm scared of p.m.s from other wee girls I've offended'), I DON'T hide behind a 'nom de plume'.

Goodness, one of Mr. Rae's little spies outed himself recently by publishing my personal details on this very forum. Isn't that correct Russell's Muscles-and where are you now-you little squid?

It's well known that the old Shooglemeister likes to be kept 'in the know' by his little band of helpers and tailbearers, and like it or not KANEY, comments made on our unofficial forum DO have an effect.

Now it pains me to have to do this, but it's perfectly plain that I sometimes have to repeat myself many times before what's being said penetrates bone.

I have made a considered decision not to attend the March Shoogly Show. I believe there is relative calm at the club at the moment, and the evening incorporates a welcome to our new management team-to whom I have already given my support. This is a 'Rally'- a time when folks are supposed to pull together. The meeting Rae cancelled in February would have been SO different.

Meanwhile I shall continue to post my opinions and ask pertinent questions on this message board.

Mr Rae knows who I am, but it seems he hasn't the courage of his convictions-I'm here to answer any questions he may care to ask-but then Mr Rae doesn't do personal stuff with the common 5/8ths, does he?

I hope the wee ego trip goes well, and I pray we don't lose both matches to be played in the interim.

GOD FORBID-he'd have to bottle out AGAIN!!!!! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-09 07:44:47
QUOTE(gmsc-doco-1874 @ Mar 9 2008, 02:59 AM) [snapback]416177[/snapback]
heard that
even john macdonald agreed with you
and he played in that game

Correct-John was my personal driver on overnight deputising-a nice guy who was very honest about the Jardine incident.
mortonjag 2008-03-09 08:03:51 We played pretty well against St. Johnstone, comfortably extinguished the Binos, and yesterday lost to the runaway league leaders in poor playing conditions on their daft plastic play pen.

We were NOT disgraced yesterday-a few players were very disappointing-they know that themselves-but we still have the usual victimisation from the weans.

The glaring weaknesses are a LEGACY from JM, and from Rae's crazed stubborness in not binning him after we blew the play offs. How can Irons/Collins be expected to turn around seasons of stupidity in three or four games?

We will win on Tuesday, and we will win again on Saturday.

I predict that by Saturday evening about 80% of our regular posters will be tipping Davie Irons to succeed Sir Alex Ferguson! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-09 08:09:50
QUOTE(Danger_Mouse @ Mar 8 2008, 03:27 PM) [snapback]415921[/snapback]
I work for a transport org - and its s***e - I deal with junkies who travel for free and old women who travel for free.

I dont know who I hate more - junkies or old women - probably old women.

Also I have to work saturdays so dont get golf in the morn and cappielow in the afternoon so all in all its total s***

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mortonjag 2008-03-09 08:25:31
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 8 2008, 08:20 PM) [snapback]416079[/snapback]
Ton Ton, you must live a terribly, terribly mundane life if something as trivial as this got you so angry you felt driven to start a whole thread on it. laugh.gif

Chill out man, or if you must get all worked up at least get angry about something important like climate change or the threat of relegation.

FFS you really DO think you're going to live for ever!

Ton Ton-you are spot on-when I was a boy we had Christmas, Easter, and Summer holidays-just as it should be in this good Christian country of ours.

I have no objection whatsoever to minorities celebrating ramitin, big 'eid, yon kipper, and going to maths-indeed they may eat fish on every day of the week if they so desire-fish is good for the brain apparently.

Now-where was I?

Oh yes-LIVE AND LET LIVE-that's what I'm supposed to say. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-09 08:35:27
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Mar 8 2008, 08:00 PM) [snapback]416052[/snapback]
no-one forced your parents into buying a house, they were just given the choice to do so. I know of plenty of people who have made quite a bit of cash through buying their council house, so there are winners as well as losers in these things. As for sink estates, i dont think that is thatchers fault, most of the dodgy estates i know of are populated by the workshy, immigrants and those dependant on drugs/alcohol. New labours policies of making it more than feesible to earn a living off the state through the benefit culture has caused these places to become what they are today. In my day a young un-married mother was basically shunned by society but now its a ticket to a free home and a multitude of benefits.

Pretty well my perception of how it is in Glasgow.
mortonjag 2008-03-09 08:48:38
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 8 2008, 10:43 PM) [snapback]416140[/snapback]
I have no gripe against Thatcher at all. She was elected democratically (as democratically as the flawed British parliamentary system allowed) and she implemented policies that she promised in her party's manifesto. She did what I expected an arch Tory would do. Her reign ended in 1990 however and opposition parties have had since then plenty of opportunities to provide an alternative. Most have failed miserably.
The Labour Party in particular has played one of the biggest con tricks in political history by capitalising on a consensus for change in 1997 only to carry on with the same, squalid politics of greed. The one saving grace of the wasted years of Blair is the re-establishment of the Scottish Parliament. Self determination for our people is now a realistic prospect, it offers a beacon of hope for all those who strive for an equitable and just society in Scotland.

Not so much a 'con trick' as a bare faced imposition of policy Mr Edwards-socialism is dead in this country, and our values are eroded to rock bottom.

Forget all the sh*t about living in a free and liberalised society-it's not even a meritocracy any more-Britain has a plasticised, veneered facade of morality thinly covering a core of 'ME. ME' greed, and a willingness to tread down anybody who stands in the way of perceived progress.

Thatcher's values may well have been skewed, but she did have some.
mortonjag 2008-03-09 08:58:23
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 9 2008, 08:11 AM) [snapback]416194[/snapback]
Agreed MJ, it will take far longer than 3 games to right the wrongs of McInally as the team try to learn how to play football again. That said, I've posted elsewhere I'm disappointed with Irons' continuation of the tinkering of personnel and formation. McGuffie (a player Irons knows well) has played in three games in three different positions. The sooner we get a settled side and formation the better.

We desperately need a settled side, but you can't make a silk purse from sows' ears.

We really are SO short in some departments yet Rae STILL wanted to hang on to JM.

We have ONE goalie.

We have NO established full backs

We have only TWO central defenders

We have NO wingers

We have MANY, MANY utility midfielders, and only a couple of goalscorers.

Can you really BLAME Irons for having to 'tinker' in an attempt to get some sort of shape?
mortonjag 2008-03-09 09:00:37 St Andrews.
mortonjag 2008-03-09 09:06:22
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Mar 9 2008, 09:03 AM) [snapback]416205[/snapback]
Tenerife on Wednesday morning for a week! biggrin.gif

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May the sun shine on your drinks tray! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-09 09:17:16
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 9 2008, 09:02 AM) [snapback]416204[/snapback]
Aye but that was because you forgot to cover your address in a letter you scanned laugh.gif

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Indeed it was because I didn't bother covering the address Puggs- it's no big secret


Dr (to all you commoners) tongue.gif Ernie Newall, M.A., M.B.,Ch.B.,

1/1, 4 Pleasance Way,

GLASGOW

G43 1SA

I'm also available to answer any queries via p.m.s and have helped several posters with health matters in the last few months.

I have a certificate in counselling skills and give of those services to a local Charity helping youngsters with addictive illness.

The Monkey and Fing live here too-they have permitted me to release that information

mortonjag 2008-03-09 09:22:39
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 9 2008, 09:03 AM) [snapback]416206[/snapback]
I think the better question is is he new to the board?

No offence mate, but this has been doen to death on here, if you look back through the morton chatter pages you'll find umpteen of these threads. I don't think one more will add anything.

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...and to think they call Mortonjag PATRONISING!


I heard Ryan Harding getting abused from the very start of the game yesterday-it wasn't pleasant, nor justified. By all means shout at players when they're making an arse of themselves. Wanton abuse says everything about the abuser.


mortonjag 2008-03-09 09:27:32
QUOTE(se65an @ Mar 9 2008, 09:07 AM) [snapback]416209[/snapback]
What a cow she was and open with it. She had a dislike for Scotland and all things Scottish and she couldn't care less who knew about it as it grew more support in the South of engerland.

She was voted in by south of engerland and they loved it, but when I think back it was Scotlands own undoing as 90% were voting labour which was run by a bunch of profiteers.

If Thatcher(cow) did one thing for me, it would be that she it that she rammed home how Scottish Indepenance is a must, and I think most of age would think the same

We certainly need independence from creed driven parties like the old Tories and Labour, who had their respective electorates mindlessly crossing the correct box for countless decades Sean.
mortonjag 2008-03-09 10:32:30
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Mar 9 2008, 09:35 AM) [snapback]416224[/snapback]
Was it just me, or did several other people also just set up subscriptions for gay scud mags and double glazing appointments to a certain Glasgow residence ? laugh.gif laugh.gif

TonInDublin

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mortonjag 2008-03-09 10:38:13
QUOTE(capitanus @ Mar 9 2008, 10:02 AM) [snapback]416238[/snapback]
Thats rich coming from you.

Cue a 6-Page Ego-trip from MortonJug.

You clearly fail to understand the term, caputupanus.
mortonjag 2008-03-09 10:56:46
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Mar 9 2008, 09:37 AM) [snapback]416226[/snapback]
I was in Tesco's the other night with my buddhist fiancee who has only just arrived int eh country. When noticing an aisle full of Easter egss she said ''what's that'' ?

I started explaining that after Jesus was crucified he was kept in a cave and then rose from the dead and pushed an egg shape boulder away from the entrance of the cave, and now people eat chocolate eggs to remember that...she just gave me one of those ''what the fook are you on about'' looks, so I gave up.

I'd nip that in the bud if I were you! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-09 10:59:29
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 9 2008, 09:47 AM) [snapback]416231[/snapback]
Ah see mistake one...linking religion to commercialism. I reckon to someone from Thailand that may take a while to make sense. Wait until Christmas roles around then she will understand!

Oh and that is the first time I have heard that reason for Easter Eggs...and I'm catholic (maybe it's because I'm catholic I have never heard of it). I'm not doubting your reasons Ian but wonder if anyone else has heard that version?

I knew from an early age that the custom of rolling a hard boied egg down a hill at Easter was symbolic of the Biblical 'rolling away of the stone' from Christ's grave.

I believed it to be common knowledge.
mortonjag 2008-03-09 11:00:42
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 9 2008, 10:00 AM) [snapback]416237[/snapback]
You miss the point, MJ. (Something that is happening with increasing regularity these days rolleyes.gif ).

Easter break and Spring break are seperate, as others have already pointed out.

I NEVER miss the point.

Bring back Easter Holidays!
mortonjag 2008-03-09 11:08:33
QUOTE(18-deano-ehm-74 @ Mar 9 2008, 10:51 AM) [snapback]416261[/snapback]
I only agreed with the 'Time Tae Go' quote because they were showing a valid point. I never agreed with the personal abuse they threw at McInally, and I never will as he is a great guy. I never joined in with any personal abuse they shouted. Just because I am younger than you doesn't mean my opinion isn't valid.

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Older is not always wiser-often-but not always! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-09 11:22:45 I think it's a wee bit early to be using the term 'tactically inept'. We were the better side for most of the first half-f*ck knows why our defence was paralysed by that long clearance which allowed Graham a free swipe past McGurn, but we were matching them in the midfield and had two shots on target-one of which their goalie almost spilled.

I'd suggest that rather than tactical ineptness, what ultimately let us down yesterday was certain players under performing-and I'm NOT saying they weren't trying.

Irons has to make do with what's been left by JM, and one aspect which saddens me is the lack of true wingers. If you're interested read Gordon Waddell-page 76 in today's Sunday Mail. Neither Jimbo nor Kev is, or ever will be a winger-we just don't have any, and that takes a whole dimension out of possible tactics.Yesterday David McGregor was given the right back role-he looked uncomfortable-under JM David NEVER had an established slot in the side-maybe he's just not good enough- he's certainly NOT a full back.

One thing that does puzzle me slightly is the omission of young Graham in favour of Wake-the former played a stormer in the first half against Gretna at Palmerston-what's the score there?
mortonjag 2008-03-09 12:18:49
QUOTE(nani @ Mar 9 2008, 11:52 AM) [snapback]416275[/snapback]
Mr Edwards, You are entitled to your opinion although I think it would have been extremely unfair to dismiss a manager who has just delivered a championship. I think the reality is that players are more important than managers and losing McGowan from last season was the biggest blow. Poor signings in the summer cost us. Was that Mcinallys fault or Raes or just unfortunate? If we had signed some of those we were chasing we wouldnt be where we are. Dont tell me that Irons is a tactical genius or are you one of those who likes someone jumping up and down on the touchline? Irons very nearly blew an unassailable lead last season which would be my biggest worry about him. McInally did ok. You just dont like him. When will you start the Irons must go chants? I have already seen a thread saying Irons is tactically inept. Seems to me there must be an awful lot of posters on here who have the UEFA coaching badge. Everyone is a tactical genius. Interested also to see all the Jenkins is crap comments. Far as I remember the majority on here have wanted us to sign him for a long time. Another Dougie signing?

Nani-I'm not exactly sure what to make of your most recent offering-I'll bet it all makes perfect sense to you, but it reads to me as a bit of a jumble.

It looks like what you mean is that if Shoogly had managed to sign Gowsa we'd currently be running away with the first division and everybody would be just lovin' JM.

Everybody that is, except Mr Edwards who is well known for his unjustified and pathological hatred for all sorts of good people.
mortonjag 2008-03-09 12:28:56
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 9 2008, 11:40 AM) [snapback]416273[/snapback]
Reply to McB (apologies that I fecked up the quote tags)
I would argue that self interest was always there- see my sig.

Sure there was, but there was also sense of social responsibility, that there was an obligation to contibute to society in return for a decent wage. Thatcher did for that and replaced it with the 'I'll do anything for a quick buck, feck you Jack I'm alright' society we have today.

Those are indeed present, first time buyer unaffordability was there when the McB's bought their first house under Jim C's labour government, sink estates were certainly present in greenock pre Thatcher, exploitative landlords ditto.

First time buyers today have had to borrow up to 5 times the value of their salaries to secure a that first step on the property ladder. Of course they have to find a few grand for the deposit first, maybe not so easy when you're already up to the neck in debt acrued as a student. (That one was down to her disciple's fault) The lucky ones have have middle classs parents who can mibbe dip into their equity and help out. Those of working class parentage aren't so lucky. Sink estates pre-Thatcher? There were some less than desirable areas yes, but never to the same extent as post-Thatcher. The 'less than desirable areas' then also housed a reasonable proportion of decent hard working families. With the advent of Thatcher's two tier society, social housing ( bloody hell I hate that term, it's a pc euphemism for 'housing for poor people') became the dumping ground for every social problem you can imagine. Exploitative landlords? Come to Govanhill, where Rachman has returned to house '14-to-a-room' migrant worker families in slums not seen since the 1930s.

I would argue that the publicly owned industries served the public poorly, remember waiting over a year before the state owned telecom monopoly decided you could mibbies get a telephone line?
Fair enough pedagogue if you don't mind paying utility bills that have gone up by umpteen thousand per cent to foreign corporations that make multi-million profits.

Admit it McB, Your hero and her disciple have sold off the family silver and put us all in hock. tongue.gif

Everybody was a loser DE-can that be so?

Anyway-on a lighter note, my brother turned on his radio yesterday morning to hear breaking news that a 'baby badger' had been admitted to hospital-mind you he was still half asleep!
mortonjag 2008-03-09 12:31:22
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 9 2008, 12:24 PM) [snapback]416279[/snapback]
I would think that's highly unlikely but I have kids who may one day have kids who may in turn one day have kids and so on and so on.

So for that reason I'm concerned about how the planet will fare long after I've left this mortal coil.

That is INDEED a cause for global concern.
mortonjag 2008-03-09 12:35:38
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Mar 9 2008, 12:30 PM) [snapback]416285[/snapback]
The only thing that annoyed me yesterday was the guy that was having a go at Chris Miller and basically telling him to f*** off to St Johnstone (can't remember the exact words - but it was something along those lines). Miller has given his all for this club and should be treated with a bit of respect. The main reason he is going to St Johnstone is because Rae and McInally f***ed him around - i really believe that had we not taken him for granted then he would have signed an extension.

Is that legal in this day and age?
mortonjag 2008-03-09 12:44:04
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 9 2008, 12:35 PM) [snapback]416287[/snapback]
Yes, in as much as the country's fundamental assets and resources are no longer in public ownership.

Distributionism is almost more crazy than totally free enterprise.

Join Mortonjag's pragmatic socialist party!


Some hae meat and canna eat,

And some wad eat that want it;

But we hae meat, and we can eat,

And sae the Lord be thankit.


Robert Burns
mortonjag 2008-03-09 12:47:02
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 9 2008, 12:42 PM) [snapback]416292[/snapback]
I think I'll take a trip to Belgium, just to see how boring it is. And I can shake my walking stick at CHC.

Does he not hibernate all summer-he worries so much about his balls overheating and things.
mortonjag 2008-03-09 12:52:51
QUOTE(tontric @ Mar 9 2008, 12:46 PM) [snapback]416295[/snapback]
I know yesterday didn't go very well but overall I've been quite happy with what I've seen from Irons and Collins so far. I have got one criticism though.....

Now that they have been in for a few weeks I'm a bit disappointed that there appears to be no loan signings coming to cappielow. I would have thought that they would have been looking for a few fresh faces to help push us on in the tail end of the season, as other clubs in the division have.

It may well be that they are waiting to see what happens at Gretna to snap up a few of those players but realistically we need them now. I'm not saying that if we lose on Tuesday night that we will be in the playoffs but it isn't far away from that.

I've been a bit puzzled by that one too. Almost every successful Div 1 club seems to have a couple of players on loan right now, and it's the only way we can fill the gaps left by JM.
mortonjag 2008-03-09 12:55:02
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 9 2008, 12:50 PM) [snapback]416298[/snapback]
Oh aye, almost forgot, I'm off to Honolulu in October as well. smile.gif

But that's work not pleasure, one whole week there to do a 30 minute presentation. cool.gif

Porn laws too strict in Brussels then?
mortonjag 2008-03-09 12:58:03
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 9 2008, 12:51 PM) [snapback]416299[/snapback]
thatcher's policies are indefensible. i find it quite sad that someone i have some respect for can say that her policies were anything other than repulsive. we had neds in the 50s indeed. what a stupid thing to say. from your leafy house in the mearns it might seem so. shame on you.

Go-spank his naughty botty Almighty Creator.
mortonjag 2008-03-09 13:11:55
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 9 2008, 01:05 PM) [snapback]416316[/snapback]
I'm beginning to wonder about your apparent interest in 'spanking naughty botties'. blink.gif

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I take it you disapprove!
mortonjag 2008-03-09 13:15:09
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Mar 9 2008, 01:00 PM) [snapback]416312[/snapback]
I have managed to persuade the family to try a UK summer holiday. Travelling to Devon & Cornwall. Fingers crossed the weather does not let us down.

Memories of 1987-the best family holiday of all time in Cornwall-get the weather and you will enjoy it!
mortonjag 2008-03-09 13:18:41
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 9 2008, 01:15 PM) [snapback]416329[/snapback]
Another Rachman eh? laugh.gif

....depends how many you can shove in a doo cote up Kilmacolm Road!
mortonjag 2008-03-09 13:20:14
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 9 2008, 01:17 PM) [snapback]416330[/snapback]
Whatever floats your boat Mentaljag, as long as it's between consenting adults. laugh.gif

Don't worry DE they always consent-I make damned sure of that!
mortonjag 2008-03-09 14:21:23
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Mar 9 2008, 02:01 PM) [snapback]416345[/snapback]
Where ?

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Well the perceived wisdom would suggest Russell and Weatherson!
mortonjag 2008-03-09 14:29:12
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Mar 9 2008, 01:11 PM) [snapback]416324[/snapback]
The Port toon is good for the wee shops that are still there and im sure the pensioners prefer that than trooping down to Greenock rolleyes.gif. Tesco Extra in the Port is far better and Greenock imo is utter s***e for shopping considering the size of the toon.The Oak Mall is a joke.

Greenock is just s***e full stop wink.gif

When I was a kid, Greenockians described Port Glasgow as 'The Dirty Wee Port', but bear in mind that almost the whole of the main road from Inchgreen right through to Newark Castle had the yards on one side and the tall tenements on the other. It's a much changed place nowadays though some scars persit-WTF is happening with that Gourock Ropeworks building-is it bloody Mileson's or something?

Oh-and apart from the wee dumpy ones opposite the Coronation Park, the Port never self mutilated with high rise blocks either.
mortonjag 2008-03-09 14:32:14
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 9 2008, 01:52 PM) [snapback]416342[/snapback]
The Easter holidays will be on the 21st and 24th March.
Yes, you have missed the point.

As already stated I NEVER miss the point. Bring back the Easter Holidays.
mortonjag 2008-03-09 14:54:05
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Mar 9 2008, 02:02 PM) [snapback]416347[/snapback]
Neds in the 50s? I lived in Corlic St in the 50s and saw few if any neds so you may well be correct, I mentioned the 70s, there sure as hell were plenty of the wee swine about Greenock then.
I'm quite particular about who spanks my botty. laugh.gif

Normally it's Madame Defarge who charges a very reasonable 50 euros. I shall p.m. you with her mobile number MJ. tongue.gif

No need Mr Bam, and she's ripping you off-only 35 euros down here in the smoke.

Now let me see-the 'Drum', the 'Mulk', Pollok and 'Easterhoose' were all into second generation by the mid seventies, and before Mrs T had entered office were notorious locally for gangs, widespread Neddery, and 'no go' areas.

I'm sure you will remember Frankie Vaughan made himself a wee bit of a cult hero up here in the SIXTIES, by trying to talk some sense into the Easterhouse gangs.

Ask anybody who grew up in one of the big city schemes-it had f*ck all to do with Thatcher, and plenty to do with human beings not getting their wee pink botties skelped.
mortonjag 2008-03-09 14:59:39
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 9 2008, 02:32 PM) [snapback]416365[/snapback]
The Port doesn't even count as a town in its own right - knock the hovel down and build a new multi-purpose stadium for the Ton. tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-09 15:00:59
QUOTE(Jack Bauer @ Mar 9 2008, 02:35 PM) [snapback]416367[/snapback]
1-1 Celtic level with the last kick of the ball....

JB.

The Tims have a habit of doing that of late-poor sheep shaggers!
mortonjag 2008-03-09 15:02:47 The NEW Oak Mall?
mortonjag 2008-03-09 15:05:13
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 9 2008, 02:51 PM) [snapback]416373[/snapback]
Oddly I can never remember being taught a link to the Jesus dying and eggs. I have always just assumed it was something to do with spring.
Still never heard of it huh.gif

Easter Eggs and Easter Stories
Deep Cove Crier March, 1989

The first thing that comes to mind as soon as you say Easter, is eggs. One of the customs most popular with children is hunting Easter eggs. I'll never forget the fun I had as a school-age boy running around my back yard collecting hidden Easter eggs. My sisters loved to eat their chocolate eggs. I loved to hoard mine. Sometimes I sold my left over eggs to them in exchange for money or comics.

International Eggs
In Denmark, children have contests with dyed Easter eggs, which they roll down hills. The boy or girl whose egg rolls the longest distance without breaking wins his opponent's egg and keeps his own. In Italy, many children receive a loaf of rich bread shaped like a crown and studded with coloured Easter egg candies. ...In some parts of Germany, it is customary for village girls to present their suitors with red eggs at Easter. In Northwestern Europe, peasants have formal egg devouring contests. Others have egg stabbing contests in which they try to smash each other's Easter egg

Why Eggs?
Why this obsession with eggs at Easter? The reason is because eggs hold the germ of new life. Easter represents new life through Jesus' resurrection. So naturally eggs became the perfect symbol of new life and resurrection for the Christian world. The bright colours painted on the eggs became symbolic of the joy and happiness over Jesus' return from the grave.

Easter Joy!!
Easter became known as the "Sunday of Joy" (Dominica Gaudii). People were so exuberantly joyful over Jesus' resurrection that they celebrated with dancing, sports, and even joke telling from the pulpit. All labour ceased, all trades were suspended. The Law Courts were closed. Money was given to the poor, slaves were freed. People exchanged the Easter kiss and everyone would greet each other with the phrase "Christ is risen" and the response, "He is risen indeed!" Easter in the old days was a joyful, happy, unforgettable party that changed people's lives.

Easter Stones
One final symbolism of Easter eggs is based on their resemblance to a small stone. Eggs came to represent in a miniaturized way the stone rolled away from Jesus' tomb. Easter eggs therefore became a powerful reminder that Jesus burst forth from the tomb on Easter morning. Easter eggs remind us that Christ is risen ... He is risen indeed!


Have a happy Easter!
The Reverend Ed Hird
St. Simon's Anglican Church
mortonjag 2008-03-09 15:07:43
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 9 2008, 03:04 PM) [snapback]416383[/snapback]
The Pensioners Playpark.
That dive doesn't even merit the word "Mall" anymore.

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mortonjag 2008-03-09 15:17:43
QUOTE(ThornwoodTon @ Mar 9 2008, 02:59 PM) [snapback]416375[/snapback]
Someone did tell them to shut it and got a mouthful of abuse for doing so. I personally thought that some of the shouts were absolutely ridiculous, especially the one directed at Miller and the tirade of abuse towards McCarthy for 'wanting to be Irish' or whatever. I bet a large number of us were cringing listening to that - its the kind of pish you would only expect at old firm matches.

And whats all this about slagging folk off for being new to the board? Do we measure how much of a fan we are by the number of posts we have on this message board? If so then I'm a fairweather-fan even though I've been going to Cappielow since I was 8. Absolutely ridiculous.

Of course we don't but I'm very suspicious of anybody who calls himself Thornwood Ton, and claims to come from Broomhill.

Then again that could refer to Greenock-but why the Thornwood?

Is there still a SPAR in the wee shopping centre on Broomhill Drive? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-09 15:28:58
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 9 2008, 03:10 PM) [snapback]416388[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-03-09 15:31:02
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 9 2008, 03:18 PM) [snapback]416403[/snapback]
Did you sing Flower of Scotland with heart filled passion ?

Fart killed passion Spurtle?
mortonjag 2008-03-09 15:32:54
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 9 2008, 03:19 PM) [snapback]416405[/snapback]
As much as I despise Thatcher I'd have to agree that neddism and gang culture was very much alive and well in the 70s. In fact I'm sure that in one year alone in the late 70s (1979?) there were 8 or 9 murders in Greenock alone, most of them gang related in a gang-feud between two families from the Strone and Gibshill areas. And there were certainly plenty of neds and violence in the Cowdenknowes High School when I was there in the mid 70s.

One thing that I think that was different then was that most of the violence was restricted to between the gangs and was less indiscriminate, so if you weren't part of a gang you were probably less likely to be a victim of unprovoked violence.

That is correct.
mortonjag 2008-03-09 15:35:57
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 9 2008, 03:25 PM) [snapback]416411[/snapback]
It seems that Liam Fox was a leading light in the anti-homo wing of Glasgow University Union. Wonder if he's a pal of Soapy Souter's as well as your's? laugh.gif It always struck me as odd that their infamous Beer-But-No-Queers Bar was also off limits to females. As I recall it was badly infected with obnoxious reactionaries, many of them ex-Aloysius law students, who were more than likely a bunch of rugger buggers partial to a bit of jobby jabbing anyway. They certainly didn't like riff raff students from the Mack that's for sure. What the Feck, there was much more fun to be had in The Vic Cafe, or The 'get yersel into a' State Bar.

Are you saying that Mr Fox dislikes pufes?
mortonjag 2008-03-09 15:38:13 I hate nobody, and love very few.

I don't think we've been introduced yet.

Would you like me to smack your little pink botty for being a naughty tottie?
mortonjag 2008-03-09 15:41:25
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 9 2008, 03:26 PM) [snapback]416413[/snapback]
I bumped into Davie Irons in Tesco in Dumfries on Friday night and offered him my best wishes in his new job. I also made a few suggestions to him, which included: bring Jamie Stevenson in and play him in the middle, not as a pseudo-winger. Either drop, or alternatively coach, the central defence, and maybe thing about using McGuffie at centre back in place of one of them; keep the ball down; and one other piece of advice relating to the social life habits of one of our forwards. I also suggested that the Value mince was quite high in fat content and he should maybe consider the Tesco Finest beef mince which is dearer but a lot healthier. Actually that could be a metaphor for our team...

I see from Hamilton that he appears not to have realised I was being serious. Oh well, maybe on Tuesday night... if he has time for mince and tatties before setting off for Broadwood.

You clearly have much experience in talking mince!
mortonjag 2008-03-09 16:54:48
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 9 2008, 04:51 PM) [snapback]416457[/snapback]
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I can just image Davie looking at his watch and smiling politely while Alibi's telling him how to do his job. laugh.gif

If it's as easy as that Alibi, why didn't you apply for the Ton manager's job? rolleyes.gif

You always make those sweeping assumptions.
mortonjag 2008-03-09 16:58:19
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 9 2008, 04:56 PM) [snapback]416460[/snapback]
And you always make those stupid and boring postings. rolleyes.gif

...and you can't resist replying-no matter how stupid or boring they are! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-09 17:00:54
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 9 2008, 04:59 PM) [snapback]416462[/snapback]
Ach, did I upset you auld yin? tongue.gif

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Told you so!!! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-09 17:04:40
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Mar 9 2008, 04:59 PM) [snapback]416463[/snapback]
If Irons wasn't such a gentleman I'm sure he would have been doing a mime of a man tying a ligature round his neck followed by pouring accelerant over his entire body and lighting it................. and who would have blamed him sad.gif

Hee Hee ----I just love the dual standards-everybody but everybody on the forum thinks he knows better than the manager-at least sometimes--- but when Alibi has a light hearted blether with Mr Irons, he suddenly becomes a laughing stock!!!
mortonjag 2008-03-09 17:06:38
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Mar 9 2008, 05:02 PM) [snapback]416465[/snapback]
Ah the keyoard gansta's in............... time for the old ligature sketch.

Identity please Cloth Ears-at the moment you are just Cloth Ears/Shooglyphile/s*** stirrer! sleep.gif wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-09 17:08:13
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 9 2008, 05:06 PM) [snapback]416470[/snapback]
Oh don't you worry about that MJ, you're still very much the board laughing stock. tongue.gif

...and don't you forget it Son!
mortonjag 2008-03-10 07:00:09 I plan to write again today to Drew Herbertson at the SFA.

If you re-call he responded to my initial letter to Gordon Smith stating that Thomson's behaviour in the previous Hamilton v Morton match was still under investigation, but despite a prompt some three weeks ago I've not been updated.

I find the comments below interesting. Smith seems to feel that Thomson is a target for bullying players/officials.




Smith, who said later he had no complaints about the striker's sending-off, was angered by what he claimed were continual efforts by the Hibs bench to influence the referee.


"I felt that the reaction by the Hibs' bench was poor," said Smith. "Throughout the match they were calling for yellow cards and ordering-offs, etcetera. I have no argument with the ordering-off. The tackle was a poor one and I thought the referee made the correct decision.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 07:04:09
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Mar 9 2008, 05:17 PM) [snapback]416474[/snapback]
The burds were in the extension bar. Or did that not exist when you were at the varsity? tongue.gif
Alibi in "chasing his nat king cole shockerrrr! wink.gif
Does Liam chase his nat king?
Nope, they're very cumfy

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDPufe leathering Mr Bam?
mortonjag 2008-03-10 07:05:59
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Mar 9 2008, 05:19 PM) [snapback]416477[/snapback]
To be serious. I remember when DE abjured the use of such terms as "jobby jabbing". I have pm'd Edinton, peace and blessings upon him, asking the Edwards be given a fortnight's ban for lowering the moral tone of this forum.

I concur Mr Bam-I suggest we neologise euphemistically to coprocopulation.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 07:14:07
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 9 2008, 05:52 PM) [snapback]416486[/snapback]
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I've been to Brussels and loved it. Each to his own and all, but I've never fancied going to to a gay bar. I'll leave that for Soapy Souter, Liam Fox and his pal Tom McB. tongue.gif



Does Mr Bam leather his pufe's in gay bars too?

I'd heard the tanning was usually done at the arse end of his back garden.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 07:17:06
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 9 2008, 10:30 PM) [snapback]416582[/snapback]
i keep thinking people are saying " i hate port ton " when they say port town or port toon, its not doing much for my already shattered self confidence sad.gif

I LOVE PORT TOON


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mortonjag 2008-03-10 07:19:27
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 9 2008, 10:52 PM) [snapback]416596[/snapback]
Don't tell me, you shove them up your arse in an attempt to lose the Greenock accent and speak in 'received english'. tongue.gif Or do you do that with marbles? Whatever, no need to adopt airs and graces with me, I'm proudly plebeian.

The man is neither anglo nor homo phobic apparently.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 07:23:37
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 9 2008, 08:24 PM) [snapback]416524[/snapback]
The point I was making re: home ownership was that as a result of her policies the culture in the UK was completely changed and I for one am happier for it. I am aware that home ownership is not for everyone and that council or public housing should be there as a last resort. I'm not really that sure as to why the government should provide people with a house, other than as a safety net, as it breeds a culture of dependency.
I agree with Tom regarding the middle class not liking the working class living next to them. When I hear "left wing" academics spout so much nonsense about council housing it makes my blood boil. Why shouldn't the working class own their homes?

When I still hear the nonsense term 'Working Class' bandied about, it makes my blood boil Mr McArthur.


Nowadays it's as big a myth as half the crap Maggie's been blamed for.

BTW is she deid yet?
mortonjag 2008-03-10 07:30:30 I find this wanton disparagement of one of Inverclyde's local amenities disturbing-if you really want depression go to the Piazza in Pishley toon centre.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 07:41:17
QUOTE(capitanus @ Mar 9 2008, 04:32 PM) [snapback]416453[/snapback]
And the moral of the story is:

"If you swim with Sharks, you're gonna get bitten."
Who was Brooks Milesons best friend on this messageboard a few years ago?

HA Caputupanus-you're suggesting is was Sir Alistair, but you're wrong-Mileson was merely a client, and one does not go out of ones way to upset clients.


The majority of posters on this forum were right behind Gretna and a few of us were subjected to the usual nasty stuff (as with JM and Rae).

The moral of the story is

Ignore Mortonjag at your peril. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-10 07:48:32
QUOTE(ThornwoodTon @ Mar 9 2008, 11:31 PM) [snapback]416602[/snapback]
Its true I live in Broomhill but I spend most of my time in the Thornwood pub. There is indeed a spar at the Broomhill shops. smile.gif

The Thornwood is not such a nice pub on a very hot summers day when the Shieldhall jobby factory is going full steam-next stop after the s***e laden air passes over Thornwood and Broomhill is Bendy Wendy's hoose at Hughenden where it is sooked in and processed for distribution at Holyrood.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 07:53:41
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 9 2008, 08:34 PM) [snapback]416538[/snapback]
he will not reply on here and he should never but i'm sure he would reply to email, a letter or if you met him, or questions at this event.

Bryan, I know that. I've written to GMFC on two or three occasions lending my support-specifically with regard to the Craig Thomson debacle, and have yet to receive a response.

The minute I believe Rae is willing to answer any question honestly, he'll be hearing plenty from Mortonjag.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 07:56:45
QUOTE(Toby @ Mar 10 2008, 01:12 AM) [snapback]416612[/snapback]
Paul, I'd be extremely disapppointed if you weren't to turn up at this. The football's been grim and I accept you not going because you want to be entertained which wasn't happening, but you're one of the guys that will kick up a stink if you're not happy with something. This is your chance to ask a few difficult questions. i'd actually try and meet up with you a couple of days earlier if you want to draft some questions.

Don't fall into the Mortonjag trap and look like a s***ebag. I'm absolutely determined to go to this and state my case, and I'll be doing it stone cold sober too. For a change.

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Toby-I can get you an excellent criminal defence lawyer!!!

Best of luck mate-they DID climb Everest eventually!
mortonjag 2008-03-10 07:59:56
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Mar 9 2008, 05:19 PM) [snapback]416476[/snapback]
No need for the paranoia - I'm not out to get you (or am I ? ) I believe you had to chuck playing rugby as you thought they were all talking about you in the scrum.......

No MJ , I possibly have the advantage of never having met DDFR - apart from the occasional 'brush' in hospitality but I do feel you go on like a burst pipe about our Chairman and then you have the cheek to pass up the opportunity to speak to him face to face-ish. You are entitled to ask questions and challenge the running of your club - My thoughts are that he may be far from perfect but 90 % of clubs would love to have a DDFR (I believe)- and I know that 40% of statistics are made up rolleyes.gif

My thoughts are that they are welcome to him! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-10 08:04:34 [quote name='Lifelongfan' post='416617' date='Mar 10 2008, 02:25 AM']Once again another pathetic attempt at humour (tinged with the usual sarcastic comment) still if it does it for you, which it obviously does, then why should we care![/quote]
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Erm --Sir Alistair and I probably understand my comment perfectly well.

I'm sorry I can't cater for every sense of humour-I'm still working on the I.Q. > 40 group. Please be patient! ALL of youse wacko.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-10 08:12:42
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 10 2008, 07:56 AM) [snapback]416636[/snapback]
I think we should smile.gif

Pardon my higgorance young chanter chomper, but is 'PUGGS' actually your name?

If so, I may construct a Limerick in your honour!
mortonjag 2008-03-10 09:32:56 Jim-I just wonder if you may have sleep apnoea syndrome. It's quite a common cause of 'insomnia', and can be treated.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 09:43:53 Many happy returns-I just happened to notice you work for Iberdrola.

Where are you based?
mortonjag 2008-03-10 09:48:22
QUOTE(midTONs @ Mar 10 2008, 09:44 AM) [snapback]416652[/snapback]
I think we discussed that before, would I be right in saying that is when you stop breathing in your sleep?

Correct Jim-maybe we did chat about it-I just wondered when you mentioned the weight problem-it's most common in overweight middle aged men.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 09:50:56
QUOTE(midTONs @ Mar 10 2008, 09:48 AM) [snapback]416656[/snapback]
middle age? I'm just a boy laugh.gif

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Aye middle age is a funny thing-you don't reach it until you're about 55 and it lasts for thirty years!
mortonjag 2008-03-10 09:58:58
QUOTE(midTONs @ Mar 10 2008, 09:57 AM) [snapback]416660[/snapback]
Well in that case If I out live middle age I'll be one happy chappy. laugh.gif

....and your peers will have spent three times as long as you giving it ZZZZZZ's!!
mortonjag 2008-03-10 10:02:45
QUOTE(midTONs @ Mar 10 2008, 10:00 AM) [snapback]416662[/snapback]
laugh.gif but in all seriousness insomnia is a curse.

Don't lose sleep over it!


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mortonjag 2008-03-10 10:04:28 Saw Doctors-can hardly make out a word but still make me laugh!
mortonjag 2008-03-10 10:12:32
QUOTE(midTONs @ Mar 10 2008, 10:05 AM) [snapback]416667[/snapback]
Not yet to be honest, I will look into it later when the kids are at nursery and see what I can find.

Well-whatever you do-remember G.P.s are overpaid underskilled fudds who try to get your arse off the chair before it's actually hit it-so here's the technique.

'Doctor-I'm worried about my insomnia-I've researched it myself, and nothing works. I suspect I may have sleep apnoea syndrome and would like a referral to a specialist, please'.

Doc (thinking-'Thank f*ck-this one's easy-I can pass the buck as usual')--'I shall send off a referral letter today'.

'Thank you Doctor'.


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mortonjag 2008-03-10 10:23:36
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 10 2008, 10:21 AM) [snapback]416672[/snapback]
Queen of the South's second goal against Dundee, which many of you will have seen on Sportscene. I was at the game and it was the most amazingly audacious goal I have ever seen. It wasn't a punt up the park to waste time - he actually looked up and aimed for the goal. Right up there with some of the Ritchmeister's long range efforts.

Aye but big Andy would just have played keepy uppy till the final whistle! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-10 10:32:28
QUOTE(Capuan @ Mar 10 2008, 10:26 AM) [snapback]416675[/snapback]
As much as I feel sorry for the Gretna fans etc. this day had been coming for a long time. Gretna simply do not belong in the SPL and their relegation is the only way which may allow them to survive long-term by finding their playing level.

As all their players are up for transfer I can see Davie Irons making a few more swoops. Would I be right in saying that we can now sign their players despite the transfer window being closed?

As I understand matters, the first task of the Administrator will be to pay off any outstanding wages.

I believe that Gretna will no longer be able to honour their contract with players, who will effectively become unemployed, and presumably able to look for work elsewhere.

Having said that, this is Scottish football-not real life!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-10 12:33:26
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Mar 10 2008, 10:40 AM) [snapback]416679[/snapback]
Ah very good. Any particular recommendations? We have arranged our accomodation for Devon in the first week and still trying to decide where we should go in Cornwall for the second week.

We were based near Polperro, HT. That coast is romantic, and almost caught in a time warp. The kids loved the Smugglers Museum.

You could browse this crowd, though it's NOT a recommendation-just happened to spot the AD!

Southwest Holiday Cottages TEL NO: (01752) 260711 YEAR 2008
mortonjag 2008-03-10 12:40:24
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 10 2008, 12:30 PM) [snapback]416704[/snapback]
It is not, and you don't chomp the chanter, would be bad for it wink.gif

Thank goodness for that, and before accepting your word on the chomping of chanters I intend to consult some beaver.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 12:51:57
QUOTE(Toby @ Mar 10 2008, 10:54 AM) [snapback]416688[/snapback]
Mortonjag,

I really can't understand you. For all the slggings we both take onthis board, we're both pretty subborn with our beliefs and convictions yet you aren't prepared to stand up and do something about it. Being resigned to failure without even trying is not something I'd ever have expected from you, for all we don't know each other personally.

I might be a drunk, ned, boo-boy etc. but at least I'm willing to stand up for what I think is right. To be honest, any boo-boy who isn't prepeared to say his piece at this is worse than every happy clapper put together by not taking this opportunity.

You are 100% correct Toby, and if I were just a 'boo boy' I'd probably be right up there with you.

I'd prefer to describe myself as an 'old campaigner' who has learned through previous experience that some 'battles' are best avoided.

I do respect your decision, and I support your democratic right to 'boo'. Perhaps you will now accord me the same kind of courtesy.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 13:01:35
QUOTE(cmdc @ Mar 10 2008, 12:14 PM) [snapback]416701[/snapback]
I didn't think McLaughlin had a particularly bad game. In fact, for the first 45 I thought he was pretty good!

I think Saturday will have been useful, because I think it will give Irons a clear indication of just how much work he has on his hands to push on up the league. I'm certain he has come here believing he can challenge for the title sooner rather than later, so it might be a good yardstick for him.

Scott is a player who was part of the backbone of our successful promotion winning side-he puts in a helluva lot of effort, much of which goes unnoticed.

What angers me a bit about recent criticisms is that he'd never claim to be an attacking or creative midfielder, unlike some of our more recent and fashionable acquirements who undoubtedly would, and don't.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 13:06:43
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 10 2008, 12:42 PM) [snapback]416711[/snapback]
Whats the rules regarding players in clubs in administration? Aren't they still under contract to the club?

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Can ye no read son?

Are you at the wind up?
mortonjag 2008-03-10 13:09:25
QUOTE(cmdc @ Mar 10 2008, 01:06 PM) [snapback]416714[/snapback]
Noticed in the Tele, Irons saying that there was poor decision making for the first two goals...and continuing that decision making is the difference between good and average players... Quite strong stuff!

Well, I suppose all he's really saying is that second division quality players can't be expected to read the game like a Beckenbauer!
mortonjag 2008-03-10 13:11:39
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 10 2008, 12:41 PM) [snapback]416710[/snapback]
Beavers know nothing about blowing wood!

Precisely-they are chompers.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 13:27:26
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 10 2008, 12:33 PM) [snapback]416707[/snapback]
Aye but remember he was aiming at an empty net with no real threat around him.

Good goal but not special.



I couldn't agree more-don't know what all the fuss is about!!!


I can still hit the bull with a 20ml syringe full of insulin from fifteen yards with both eyes closed, a rash on my Willy, and the Monkey playing 'God save King Shoogly' on his keyboards.

AND I've retired.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 13:36:22 is at Broadwood-k.o. 7.45 p.m.


I hate that miserable piece of exposed waste ground, and it will probably be effin Baltic, but there's NO WAY we'll come home without three points.


Anybody else going BTW?
mortonjag 2008-03-10 13:40:12
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 10 2008, 01:31 PM) [snapback]416724[/snapback]
was it directly to him tho?

No, of course not Bryan it was e-mailed to the club on the link they provide for further discussion of any topic. I read that in good faith.

Mind you I DO know of a FAR more important e-mail which was sent to him last summer, and which he apparently did not receive-but that's a different story! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-10 13:43:58
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Mar 10 2008, 01:42 PM) [snapback]416728[/snapback]
Apparently it's just you.

Free pies for the monkey then!
mortonjag 2008-03-10 13:56:46
QUOTE(se65an @ Mar 10 2008, 01:37 PM) [snapback]416726[/snapback]
My Dad away back in the 70's found a coin in a burn down by Ayr when he was working.

It's a BawBee from 1800's. It was minted for the 100th anniversay of Robert Burns.

Not looking to sell it, just interested in its history

Anyone got idea how to find out

E-mail the Hunterian Museum at Glasgow University Sean-they have a huge collection of Scottish coinage from the Romans right through.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 14:00:13
QUOTE(franco @ Mar 10 2008, 01:49 PM) [snapback]416734[/snapback]
Right, you and puggsy get down to parklea with a ball and see if you can even kick it 75 yards never mind get it in the goal. Wonderfull goal!

Don't be silly franco-it was such an obvious mistake-----he just thought-'I'm going to punt this ball as far out of here as possible'-truth is he was trying to put it over the stand and miscued.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 14:05:00
QUOTE(tontric @ Mar 10 2008, 01:47 PM) [snapback]416733[/snapback]
I realise midweek games can be difficult for some people to get to but I'd hope that anyone that can go will do. If ever the club needed our support it's for this game.

My prediction is that it will be a score draw. Hope I'm wrong and we come away with all three points but I can't see it.

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Don't be so pessimistic-we even beat them last time at scapa-just before the players gave JM his going away present at full time.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 14:11:55
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 10 2008, 02:06 PM) [snapback]416741[/snapback]
slough of despond

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That's a cruel over statement-you Inverclyde wallahs don't know you're living-I could take you through some Malls up here which would open your eyes.

Top recommendation at the moment is Parkhead Forge where wheelchairs and mobility scooters compete in the daily dodgem derby, forcing disabled folk to look sharpish.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 14:18:08
QUOTE(ton5saints1 @ Mar 10 2008, 02:13 PM) [snapback]416746[/snapback]
Livingston FC owner Flynn faces fury as call centres close down
John Bynorth Home Affairs Editor

Comment
THE OWNER of Livingston Football Club has sparked outrage after shutting three call centres with the loss of 108 jobs created with around £2.2 million of Irish government subsidies.

Pearse Flynn's Contact4 financial services sales firm last month ordered staff to leave their desks with only 10 minutes' notice and made a further 24 workers redundant at a centre in Campbeltown, Argyll. Sacked former staff met yesterday to discuss how to get around £2500 on average in wages that are owed to each individual after the company failed to put the money into their accounts as promised on Friday.

And Flynn's Glasgow-based organisation is facing demands to repay the huge outlay used to fund the businesses which were open for less than four years.

Manager Imelda McGrattan, who was sacked with 39 other employees from her centre in Dingle, County Kerry, told the Sunday Herald: "We were called to a conference call from the headquarters at 3pm, at which we thought we would discuss our sales targets.

"Instead we were read a statement asking us to brief the staff to leave the building immediately and post the keys back. There's a lot of anger."

Other jobs were lost on the island of Achill in County Mayo and Gweedore, County Dongegal.

The firms exploited legislation which prevents sales organisations from cold calling in the UK to sell products by being based in Ireland. It offered potential customers the chance to clear their debts by offering a range of financial products under the names of Credit Fix and Contact4.

Councillor Michael Holmes said the closure of Achill had "a terrible effect on the community". Cork-born Flynn, 44, a former Celtic shareholder, led the Lionheart consortium that bought Livingston, then a Premier League club, in 2005. But the club was relegated and speculation last week suggested he is preparing to sell it for £600,000.
He could not be reached for comment.

It's well known that Flynn's been trying to offload Livvy.

Just another of footballs genuine guys!!!!!!!!!
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mortonjag 2008-03-10 14:27:50
QUOTE(ton5saints1 @ Mar 10 2008, 02:19 PM) [snapback]416749[/snapback]
Thursday, 31 May, 2001, 18:59 GMT 19:59 UK
Morton players shown the door
Morton has sacked their entire playing staff as the beleaguered club plummet to new depths of financial desperation.
The drastic move was confirmed by administrator for the Greenock outfit, Graham Martin, of Kroll, Buchler, Phillips.

The cash-strapped club has been in administration since December and donations from the fans' fighting fund have helped keep it alive in the intervening months.

Morton's miserable season ended with a drop to Division Two and, with match schedules for next season due to be sent out to clubs on 21 June, there must now be a major doubt over the club's continued existence.

Caretaker manager Ally Maxwell has also been made redundant and he fears the worst for the club.

Morton Football Club has a great tradition in Scottish history and I don't want them to be the next since Third Lanark to go under," said the former Rangers goalkeeper.

He added: "Obviously I feel sorry for supporters, I feel sorry for the players and everyone at the club because their efforts to save this club have been fantastic.

"But it's not just the players who it affects -- it's the families as well and it's very, very sad.

Earlier this month a group of local businessmen, in association with Morton Supporters' Trust, offered £300,000 for the club and the ramshackle Cappielow stadium, a bid which has since been increased.




Is this a 'Compare and contrast' exercise?

Possibly a good thread in there somewhere.

The current viability of GMFC is down to one man's passion-for that I thank Douglas Rae.

Mileson has always been a 'freak' in my eyes-I've never trusted guys in their late fifties with long hair, cowboy boots, and tales of 'Born Again' Christianity.

Not even when they've only been looking for a 'sick note'.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 14:40:32 QUOTE
A statement from the club read: "In 2003, Brooks Mileson became the owner of Gretna Football Club.

"His financing has enabled the club to achieve unprecedented success in Scottish football.

"However, due to ill heath, he is currently not in a position to facilitate further funding.

"Following a board meeting on 7 March, the directors passed a resolution to place the club into administration and a formal notice of intention was filed in the Court of Session in Edinburgh this morning.

"We anticipate that administrators will be appointed in the next few days."



cough, cough,

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Gangrene has finally f*cked his signing fingers! mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-10 14:50:17
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Mar 10 2008, 02:36 PM) [snapback]416756[/snapback]
Get in touch with a ship chartering or broking agent. Most will only deal with commercial shipping rather than cruising but you never know.

Watch though, Pan T Liners in Newcastle have just gone down. Apparently that's who Gretna FC had used to pre-book their world cruise after winning this years SPL.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 14:52:24
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Mar 10 2008, 02:42 PM) [snapback]416759[/snapback]
Thanks, appreciated. I'll get the wife on to it!

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I can see you're the sort of chap who knows how to enjoy his leisure time!
mortonjag 2008-03-10 14:56:04
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Mar 10 2008, 02:44 PM) [snapback]416760[/snapback]
Do they get an unfair advantage in having an artificial pitch? Or do you think they are the best team you have seen in the league?

They undoubtedly have an advantage on that plastic play pen, but Reid deserves credit too. He seems to have the ability to get his side working as a unit almost 100% of the time, and they are ruthless to the point of being cynical cluggers at times.

Maybe we could learn from their cynical cluggery!
mortonjag 2008-03-10 15:31:53
QUOTE(se65an @ Mar 10 2008, 03:09 PM) [snapback]416768[/snapback]
They go down everynight rolleyes.gif well if your lucky

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mortonjag 2008-03-10 15:45:24 they can sure as hell turn your 5 year old blond daughter into a 67 year old grey haired serial killer!

Indeed Yoda, and I have perfected the opposite-tonight I'll be skipping off to the Brownies as Griselda.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 15:47:39
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 10 2008, 03:42 PM) [snapback]416773[/snapback]
I wouldn't even bother contacting B.I.N. Liners, they're rubbish.

...and I gather I. Liners have been blacked.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 15:50:40
QUOTE(dj-ton @ Mar 10 2008, 10:48 AM) [snapback]416683[/snapback]
if you wanna top it up for him(if u feeling flush) its 0845 412 5000

work for them unfortunatly!!! sad.gif

WORKED!

Yer fired! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-10 16:04:01
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Mar 10 2008, 03:57 PM) [snapback]416777[/snapback]
the Hunterian Museum still sell Coulter's Candy aswell....

apparently not M4RKO!



Coulters Candy, also known as "Alie Balie" is a Scottish folk song originating from Glasgow.

It was written by Robert Coltard (died 1890) as kind of advertising jingle. The aniseed-flavoured candy was manufactured in Melrose. Unfortunately the recipe for this children's delight died with him, but the song lived on. In 1958 a letter in "The Weekly Scotsman" reported that a man remebered hearing it from his grandmother, who in turn had learned the song about 1845. It was collected in a children's playground in 1964 by James T. Ritche's. He published it in a book called "The Singing Street". Presumably the original version would have been "Coltard's Candy". It was recorded by Donovan on "HMS Donovan" (1971). Hamish Imlach recorded a parody version, where a buyer complains about the poor quality of the candy. Ray Fisher notes that it has become a lullaby. The word Bawbee is old currency - a silver sixpence. Alexander Orrok of Sillebawby was a 16th-century head of the Scottish Mint. The coin went out of circulation in 1707 but the word lived on, used to refer to a bronze halfpenny.


Ally, bally, ally bally bee,
Sittin' on yer mammy's knee
Greetin' for anither bawbee,
Tae buy mair Coulter's candy.

Ally. bally, ally, bally bee,
When you grow up you'll go to sea,
Makin' pennies for your daddy and me,
Tae buy mair Coulter's Candy.

Mammy gie me ma thrifty doon
Here's auld Coulter comin' roon
Wi' a basket on his croon
Selling Coulter's Candy.

Little Annie's greetin' tae
Sae whit can puir wee Mammy dae
But gie them a penny atween them twae
Tae buy mair Coulter's Candy.

Poor wee Jeannie's lookin' affa thin,
A rickle o' banes covered ower wi' skin,
Noo she's gettin' a double chin
Wi' sookin' Coulter's Candy
mortonjag 2008-03-10 16:12:19
QUOTE(jimmy boag delivers @ Mar 10 2008, 04:03 PM) [snapback]416781[/snapback]
I find it quite ridiculous that some people wish another human being dead. And disrespectful comments of "dancing on her grave" etc I find really repulsive. Isn't it ironic that a lot of the posts on this topic blame Thatcher for some sort of breakdown of society yet we have vociferous calls for her demise?! Some people need to take a good look at themselves.

I couldn't give two hoots about Thatcher, Blair, Salmond or any other self serving and self interested politician but I would never take glee in their ill health or death.

You miserable b@st@rds.

Could this be a subtle re-introduction of the 'Capital Punishment' thread?

I wish everybody could live happily ever after-nobody should be allowed to die-it's very cruel-in fact I'd go as far as to suggest it's UNNATURAL!
mortonjag 2008-03-10 16:16:29
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 10 2008, 04:06 PM) [snapback]416783[/snapback]
I like the wee Govan shopping centre biggrin.gif

I (very) briefly worked in Drumchapel as well, more closed down shops than open ones.

Clydebank is another choice spot, where for some reason half the tables in the Asda Restaurant hold unfinished plates of chips smothered in tomato sauce.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 16:18:40
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Mar 10 2008, 04:14 PM) [snapback]416786[/snapback]
Nothing to do with insomnia but i have started the whole pishing a few times a night routine. The regularity of the said pishes are worryingly monotonous.

Trying to convince myself it's because I'm drinking too much tea and juice - in the vain hope I can postpone the inevitable finger up the cadbury canal from some doctor who's got an index finger like a baby elephants back leg.

TonInDublin

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Try tying a knot in yer tadger!
mortonjag 2008-03-10 16:26:56
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Mar 10 2008, 04:22 PM) [snapback]416796[/snapback]
Been there, tried that MJ.

Even tried to convince myself one night that I didn't really need a wazz at all, held on for what felt like hours - probably causing major kidney damage before sprinting to the jacks and unleashing a high pressure flow that wouldn't have been stopped with a jubilee clip.

I'd be too scared to get the old bangle tampered with in case the f***er does find something wrong. Strange logic I know.

TonInDublin

You could always ask for a PSA blood test-they're notoriously fickle but if your prostate's doing anything nasty it would certainly not be normal.

Are you unduly thirsty perchance?
mortonjag 2008-03-10 16:28:35
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 10 2008, 04:27 PM) [snapback]416801[/snapback]
I always aim for the 8 hours. Don't drink coffee or tea anyway but at night will only drink caffeine free soft drinks. Also started taking sleeping pills as was having to go in to uni like a "hawf shut knife" sometimes due to sleeping normally at the weekend then suddenly needing to get up at 6.15am.

Basically at the end of the day I find if I don't alter my sleep pattern much I generally have no problem getting my 8 hours.

WHAT?
mortonjag 2008-03-10 16:35:28
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Mar 10 2008, 04:32 PM) [snapback]416807[/snapback]
Not thirsty persay MJ. In an average day I would drink about two cups of coffee at work and one 500ml bottle of Diet Coke. I'd have a cup of tea at night time and I'm a wh*re for drinking Pepsi Max - easily a litre of that at night - but it's more habit than thirst !

TonInDublin

Thirst and much pissing together often indicate diabetes. You seem a bit young for a prostatic problem, but if you're worried don't ignore your symptoms. You could always ask for a lady doctor with delicate fingers! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-10 17:32:17
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Mar 10 2008, 04:38 PM) [snapback]416815[/snapback]
And that's where it gets overly complicated - whilst I have no desire for some ape of a male doctor to finger my flake flume, I have even less desire to display my hairy hole to some good looking young one and invite her to guess what I had for breakfast.

TonInDublin

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There's just a possibility you might be able to con them into the Practice Nurse taking a blood sample for PSA first.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 17:35:42
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 10 2008, 04:40 PM) [snapback]416817[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDYou have given birth to a boy Mrs Young!
mortonjag 2008-03-10 17:47:55
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 10 2008, 05:44 PM) [snapback]416851[/snapback]
Feel sorry for those who lost their jobs and especially those who are owed money .

Flynn is a spiv . Another white collar shyster .

Another non Scot f*cking up a Scottish team too!
mortonjag 2008-03-10 21:41:33
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Mar 10 2008, 07:15 PM) [snapback]416897[/snapback]
Didn't say that. Rather I wondered about going back to the pre '71 state where junkies were given heroin rather than methadone. If there's one thing that's certain it's that the current regime ain't working. Mibbies regular state controlled heroin was the correct route.
Honest tae gawd Edwards first homophobia and now laise Faire capitalism.
You'll be down the Wanderers next. ohmy.gif
Excellent
She's to be buried at sea. laugh.gif

The Viking thinks he can walk on water.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 21:47:15 Gentlemen-on the specific issue of 'junkies', it may have escaped your notice that the problem cuts right across society, and has no respect for social standing or political allegiance.

Mind you, the rich junkies can usually still afford their own houses-well for a fairly lengthy period anyway.

One other point-I have found from experience that rehabilitation is singularly ineffective in the huge majority of cases for the simple reason that the the addict ultimately goes back to exactly whence he came, and the whole process is inevitably re-kindled.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 21:50:35
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 10 2008, 09:47 PM) [snapback]416953[/snapback]
Got a bit bored and done an online onet: here

Let's see how I fare compared against you lot


Dear Mick McMenemie,

Thank you for your interest in the test at IQTest.com.

Your general IQ score is: 127

If ever proof was required that I.Q. and education do not inevitably co-relate.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 21:57:42
QUOTE(tom @ Mar 10 2008, 06:41 PM) [snapback]416881[/snapback]
Pearse has lived in Scotland for around 25 years. He has a Scottish wife and kids. Spiv he's not. I don't know the business issues relating to the call centre closures, but it's a shame for the folk who lose their jobs as a result. I've never understood why he bothered with Livingston in the first place.

Well I guess that's entirely down to how you define 'spiv'.

I'd probably describe a friend of Pearce's ilk as 'entrepreneurial'!
mortonjag 2008-03-10 22:05:00
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 10 2008, 09:03 PM) [snapback]416932[/snapback]
Two things:

1) Graeme Muir said that Gretna would have got to the SPL without Brookson's cash. Surely this was his chance to prove it?

2) If Skelton, Innes and Fleming are as mince as Jenkins and McGuffie then no thanks.

Neither Jenkins nor McGuffie is 'mince'.

Give them a little time-FFS JM's just 'oot the door' and the infection still lingers.

mortonjag 2008-03-10 22:12:32
QUOTE(capitanus @ Mar 10 2008, 09:18 PM) [snapback]416940[/snapback]
Toby, thats just it, i wouldn't kick up a stink if there was something i wasn't happy with. I've had my time of being considered a 'Boo Boy' and its tiresome feeling like a pariah at some happy-clappy glee club. There are things about Morton which i dont like, but it will never change, Morton and Progress are two words that dont go together, and one of the things that hold Morton back is the supporters willingness to accept and defend failure.
First point, as i stated before DDFR is a smoothy, dont be fooled by the dottery old man act, he is sharper than a swiss army knife. He is a showman, a salesman and a wide-o who knows how to bodyswerve the tough questions and he can quip a soundbite which will rouse the moron cry of "Dwoogie! Dwoogie!" drowning out any valid point you may wish to make, and there will be plenty of sycophants only to willing to heckle you if you were to get the better of him.

If there is nothing else happening in my life that night, I may pop along. Only as a mere observer, mind. rolleyes.gif

Correct!

Very perceptive, and EXACTLY the reason why the February show was cancelled.

...and his minions DO bear the little messages from OUR forum, and the old dodder fly old bugger is raging because he can't do a bloody thing about us except whine in the Shoogly Peg notes!
mortonjag 2008-03-10 22:18:21
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Mar 10 2008, 10:16 PM) [snapback]416965[/snapback]
You know for a fact that's exactly why the February show was cancelled? Are you in contact with Mr Rae please tell us more....

Probably not in as close contact as you-I don't fancy trying the taste of Shooglesh*t
mortonjag 2008-03-10 22:30:16
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Mar 10 2008, 10:19 PM) [snapback]416968[/snapback]
so we'll take that as a resounding no then...

Good for youse-are youse very many-an arse can surely only accept a couple of tongues at once.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 22:31:47
QUOTE(capitanus @ Mar 10 2008, 10:19 PM) [snapback]416969[/snapback]
Maybe the star of the show didn't want to go to that event either. Which makes me think your non-appearance next wednesday may throw this event into jeopardy.

Nobody is really going there to see DDFR, Davie Irons or Derek Collins, they are there to see MortonJag.

Why dont you just attend, your audience awaits you.....

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Mortonjag has much to answer for.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 22:35:04
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 10 2008, 09:54 PM) [snapback]416957[/snapback]
Or proof no-one cares about grammar when they're just fannying about online

Indeed!
mortonjag 2008-03-10 22:40:42
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 10 2008, 10:21 PM) [snapback]416971[/snapback]
In reply to your first I'd say that usually the Toffs can afford to buy their own junk without having to mug Grannies. And they can also afford to check in to the Betty Ford clinic when they tire of their habit. Your second concerns me more. Perhaps the success rate would improve if the recovering addicts were put to work rather than left to fester on state handouts.

That would certainly be a step in the right direction DE, but is pretty well impracticable as things stand. Truth is that 'rehab' is largely a man made myth, and as I stated addicts simply return to the environment where they 'belong'.

I'm afraid we have to be thinking in terms of prevention rather than cure, and haven't a clue how to go about that.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 22:45:58
QUOTE(capitanus @ Mar 10 2008, 10:33 PM) [snapback]416979[/snapback]
in all fairness to Mortonjag, i dont think he's a s***ebag. Lets face it, its not as though DDFR would get decked out in Burberry and bushwhack him at the train station is it?

However, Mortonjag doesnt want to give DDFR the right to reply,
but he'll want to continue to indulge in his relentless criticism of him. 16,000 times over.

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He has the f*cking monopoly of a tame Tilly, his matchday programme, and that bloody microphone.

Are you there Shoogly?

Shoogly-speak to me

Shoogly-are you in the huff again?

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mortonjag 2008-03-10 22:48:36
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Mar 10 2008, 10:09 PM) [snapback]416962[/snapback]
1) We all know he's talking rubbush, but he's there to put a positive spin on things. Let him play his games.....he'll be out of a job soon enough

2) Not the kind of comments we need you fool

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How many of you does it take to spot one of your fellows? mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-10 22:51:07
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Mar 10 2008, 10:22 PM) [snapback]416972[/snapback]
I am sure that Tonsilitis will give a more definitive and authoritative view but as I understand it HMRCE are ranked equally with all other creditors and are not afforded preferential treatment. Given that the majority of debt is owed to Milesons insurance company it would be unlikely that other creditors would get very much from administration and/or liquidation.

Over and above the usual administration laws, the SFA/SPL/SFL will insist on the "football debt" being met if the club is to continue as a going concern. This means that monies owed for players contracts etc will have to be met in full. I am unclear as to the legality of such a move but the holy triumverate seem to be above the laws in these matters.

Alibi - having seen the table with the skunks at the bottom if gretna's contribution is eliminated I would have to urge you to go for it as well - I feel wrong and dirty for suggesting such a thing but somehow paradoxically it seems so right and almost poetical...

Self perception-eh! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-10 22:52:57
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 10 2008, 10:38 PM) [snapback]416981[/snapback]
Well if you're right they must have changed the law. I was owed money by an insolvent company back in 1993, the Tax and Vat men were preferential creditors and took all that was left. That was a sore one.

Outstanding wages come first and foremost-the revenue and excise get in next-after that it's a free for all!
mortonjag 2008-03-10 22:56:25
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 10 2008, 10:50 PM) [snapback]416989[/snapback]
Dear forza ton,

Thank you for your interest in the test at IQTest.com.

Your general IQ score is: 135

hmm. the highest i ever got was 151 the lowest 110. i think all this shows is how good you are at the particular test.

clinically i think they can be useful in determining a learning disability but other than that i think they're pretty useless.
and i get all uptight doing them cos i hate going against the clock *lights another cig*

They do prove something forza-only those who score highly ever seem to admit to having done them!


I was apparently very good at them in my schooldays, but I don't trust those new fangled ones.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 22:58:45
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 10 2008, 10:46 PM) [snapback]416985[/snapback]
Aw, feck it then. Top the lot of them. laugh.gif

By humane INJECTION! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-10 23:12:18
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 10 2008, 11:00 PM) [snapback]416999[/snapback]
I read a very interesting article in New Scientist with some guy saying Beckham was smarter than Einstein. Went through a whole heap of mumbo-jumbo but it boiled down to Beckham can look at a ball and look at a goal and the five defenders standing infront of him but has the ability to know instantly where to kick the ball, with what part of the foot and how hard for it to go in the goal whereas a scientist would take weeks to come up with the formula.

Obviously he was taking it to extremes to prove a point. The point being IQ tests are rubbish smile.gif

I don't agree they are 'rubbish', but they are only useful if designed properly and with a specific end-as your example demonstrates.

They certainly don't guarantee success or failure on life's journey.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 23:16:02
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Mar 10 2008, 10:53 PM) [snapback]416993[/snapback]
Nope - outstanding wages are preferential creditors these days, but the revenue is not (for any debts incurred after 2003 or 04). It's not my area of expertise though tbh - i deal with personal insolvency, not corporate.

I'm always out of date!
mortonjag 2008-03-10 23:18:08
QUOTE(capitanus @ Mar 10 2008, 11:00 PM) [snapback]417000[/snapback]
You really are self-important, arent you?

I'll bet Morrissey is waiting for the announcement that MortonJag will be going to the Port Town Hall.

He's gonna buy a job lot of tickets and flog them for a profit on Ebay.
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YES




Who the f*ck is this Morrissey character?
mortonjag 2008-03-10 23:19:19
QUOTE(capitanus @ Mar 10 2008, 11:16 PM) [snapback]417017[/snapback]
which he will reply with 6 pages of self gratification.

Correct-and will love every minute of it CAPUTUPANUS!
mortonjag 2008-03-10 23:23:54 Dear Mortonjag,

Thank you for your interest in the test at IQtest.com

Unfortunately our software is not programmed to report results in excess of 195
mortonjag 2008-03-10 23:28:52
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Mar 10 2008, 11:24 PM) [snapback]417027[/snapback]
Mmmm.

That's just a picture of some bloke with a mike-is it the young Shoogly?
mortonjag 2008-03-10 23:33:23
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 10 2008, 11:26 PM) [snapback]417030[/snapback]
that was nice of them to tell you, so what score did they give you?

They didn't but they've offered me $500,000 p.a. to redesign the software.
mortonjag 2008-03-10 23:35:20
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 10 2008, 11:32 PM) [snapback]417037[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-03-10 23:37:43
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 10 2008, 11:34 PM) [snapback]417039[/snapback]
Are you gonna do it or crow on about it online until the chance arises in real life and s***e out?

It's already done my friend-and the cash donated to charity.

Oh and my IQ is 265
mortonjag 2008-03-10 23:43:48
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 10 2008, 11:36 PM) [snapback]417043[/snapback]
i hear its Golden Casket that own that website, are you willing to work for your arch nemisis?

Golden Casket have no interest in folks IQ's as long as they're daft enough to buy sweeties.
mortonjag 2008-03-11 07:50:45
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 10 2008, 11:59 PM) [snapback]417077[/snapback]
Mortonjag.

More accurately about how Mortonjag and Toby have hatched this evil plot in which the Jag goes to Q & A dressed up as Toby, while Toby, Crawford, and Alistair Donald finalise the coup, which includes torching Fort Matilda and building a state of the art Neo Cappielow over its charred carcase, courtesy of funding from the insurance company, and that huge chest nicked from under the Shooglemeister's bed.
mortonjag 2008-03-11 07:56:44
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 11 2008, 12:13 AM) [snapback]417093[/snapback]
Pearse Flynn was a high flyer at Compaq in Erskine and then went off to work in telecomms in the US/Canada where he made his millions.

A close family member of mine worked for him in Compaq and was enticed to to leave a solid pensionable job to join him when he returned and set up in Glasgow. Within a few months she was out with imho a pittance of a pay off, no where near compensation her for her lost years service at Compaq. I personally think he is a sh1t of the smelliest kind.

Further as a businessman, he's a typical salesman - all about the sales figure without worrying about how much is sticking on the bottom line!

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Turdissimus Flynn eh!

Radix malorum est cupiditas.

For Flynn read Mileson, Romanov, and YES Rae.

So long as Shoogly's interests coincide with ours we'll be OK mind you-long may that continue.
mortonjag 2008-03-11 08:03:57
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 11 2008, 07:45 AM) [snapback]417115[/snapback]
What has their inability to play at this level have to do with JM? Surely they were coached by Irons and Collins and wouldn't instantly lose skill levels overnight.
Why not? It's my opinion as an adult and don't call me a fool. Are you worried that they might read this "it might affect their confidence" (copyrite Morton forum 2008). Neither of them have deserved their wages since they joined.

I don't regard you as a fool Mr McArthur-well for most of the time anyway! wink.gif

Mind you I think it's a tad foolish to describe Jenkins and McGuffie as you have, and time will prove me correct as it inevitably does on every occasion. sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-11 08:09:53
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 11 2008, 08:02 AM) [snapback]417121[/snapback]
Great plan - let's hope it's not insured by one of Mileson's companies. They may be waiting a while on the cheque.

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Don't worry Ratarse-we'd never be so improvident-this Donald guys provin' to be a real cool dude BTW-I hope he comes up Trumps.
mortonjag 2008-03-11 08:30:54
QUOTE(cappielow-doc @ Mar 11 2008, 01:01 AM) [snapback]417100[/snapback]
Cheers guys

Its actually Scottish Power i work for,Ibedrola is the mother company.My base is at Newarthill,about a mile or so behind the Honeywell plant on the M8,but im only there once or twice a month,i work in Clydebank,Dumbarton,Alexandria and Helensburgh.

Just wondered-my partner works at Cathcart! I've noticed an increasing number of Mediterranean faces coming and going in the last few months as I pick her up after a hard day's graft!
mortonjag 2008-03-11 08:32:19 Indeed-many happy returns-though you are now over half way through your Biblically allotted span!!! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-11 08:36:20
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 10 2008, 11:49 PM) [snapback]417059[/snapback]
so only daft people buy sweeties?

im telling my mum that you called her stupid!!

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There are sweeties and sweeties! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-11 08:41:21 "I think the major point is that priests who are hearing confessions are not sufficiently attuned to some of the real evils in our world,


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mortonjag 2008-03-11 08:44:43
QUOTE(midTONs @ Mar 11 2008, 08:29 AM) [snapback]417124[/snapback]
Sanityclause - I doubt very much whether my condition is cause through anxiety, If I'm honest not a lot of things particularly bother me in such ways that I find myself worrying about them for hours on end or lying in bed awake worrying about them.
I spoke yesterday with a pharmacists who seemed to know what she was talking about, she asked me loads of questions to which I gave honest answers, I've to go back in tomorrow and get a few tests done just to rule out stuff like diabetes (which I think could be a distinct possibility). She reckons she knows the problem and I will be sleeping right through in no time.
I will though do like you said, when I awake during the night get up and do things like Ironing and washing up and let you know if it does indeed help.

Well done Jim-when do you repay the £10,000 loan? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif



Naw-seriously-good luck!
mortonjag 2008-03-11 08:46:19
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 11 2008, 08:42 AM) [snapback]417132[/snapback]
drug consumption? what about altar wine?
anyway these are subject to change. they took wanking off the list about 10 year ago.

Wanking of all varieties?
mortonjag 2008-03-11 08:52:28
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 11 2008, 08:44 AM) [snapback]417133[/snapback]
A question (actually many questions) here for Tonsilitis and any others who work in the accountancy/insolvency fields

Gretna are currently unable to trade their way out of their current overdrawn position - their income stream is gate money from Fir Park, plus maybe any money paid to them by the SPL as an advance on their end-of-season payout.

Where there is no prospect of them turning it round (and that seems obvious unless they can increase their gates a lot) they are simply increasing their debts by continuing - in that situation are they not "wrongly trading" as my accountant called it, trading insolvently as I thought it was called? Also, if there is income coming in (gate money, SPL money), can I stop that getting to them and insist that it is directed to the creditors? I think the SPL are hoping to sweep this under the carpet by assisting them to limp through until May when it becomes an SFL problem. The SPL would be very embarrassed by an SPL club folding mid-season. Personally I would like to see that as it would bring a lot into the open and would get far more media coverage than after Gretna are relegated, when the media will cease to care.

How do I go about liquidating them now, given that the administrators will probably be appointed tomorrow? And in the event of liquidation, I assume the current assets go to creditors? In which case it seems a better deal than administration where they will reduce their assets by the time they are liquidated. Do administrators have a duty of care to the creditors? Are they required to stop any reduction in net assets over the period of administration? Do they have to look at the books and say "nae chance" if that is the way it looks, and pull the plug there and then, or are they allowed to run the business into the ground even though that worsens the position of creditors?

Alibi-I know very little about insolvency but I do recognise the widespread ramifications of Mileson's impeachable and criminal behaviour. I suggest that you report even the slightest irregularity in any financial dealings directly to the Revenue/Excise-he may think he can just walk away from the Gretna mess, but IMHO that's the tip of an iceberg.
mortonjag 2008-03-11 08:53:44
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 11 2008, 08:51 AM) [snapback]417141[/snapback]
This illustrates the wonderful madness of this forum. Irons is the guy who has been coaching Jenkins and McGuffie with the exception of about 5 weeks and now he needs time to sort it out. Fantastic, you couldn't make some of this stuff up!!

Don't be a silly Billy-never heard of 'horses for courses'-give them time to adjust to the new environment!
mortonjag 2008-03-11 08:59:10
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 11 2008, 08:49 AM) [snapback]417139[/snapback]
Brooks Mileson claims to be a born again Christian. I think that says much that needs to be said about religion.

Matthew 25:29

"For to everyone who has, more shall be given, and he will have an abundance; but from the one who does not have, even what he does have shall be taken away.

I don't think he bothered reading past that!!!

GO GET THE C*NT!
mortonjag 2008-03-11 09:04:12
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 11 2008, 08:59 AM) [snapback]417146[/snapback]
163.

The average or possibly median is supposed to be 100 - the tests are designed that way so that 50% of the poulation are higher and 50% lower than 100 (apart from the percentage who are spot on 100 but you know what I mean). I used to do these tests quite a lot and I concluded that if you practise, your score can increase, which suggests the tests are imperfect in function.

We all have different abilities. For example on Countdown I can usually do the numbers but I'm hopeless at getting big words. I assume it's because I have a mathematical-biased brain but not so good with juggling letters in my head. Although I did once get a 7 letter word at the start of a Scrabble game.

I refuse to do the test Alibi, cos I'd be really really upset if somebody beat me!

I'm equally good at the numbers and words on Countdown, but I can't draw a poosy cat for the life of me, and every attempt to play golf has been an abject disaster.
mortonjag 2008-03-11 09:06:58
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 11 2008, 09:03 AM) [snapback]417149[/snapback]
Davie, I know they have played under Irons - my point is that they are in a different team now, and it's the rest of the team that has to be coached in playing passing football instead of panicking and hoofing it up the park.

Both Jenkins and McGuffie got MoTM awards in their final games atGretna, and against the OF. That suggests they can do it. If coming to Morton automatically makes decent players cr4p, then we have a problem...

Hmm, I think we may have a problem.

Indeed we do-the sleeping sickness which infected the squad under JM is taking a while to wear off.
mortonjag 2008-03-11 09:08:46
QUOTE(stubaws @ Mar 11 2008, 09:01 AM) [snapback]417148[/snapback]
according to bbc there's a group of italians wanting to buy the club - fingers crossed its the bonetti's tongue.gif

Are not all mafioso the same?
mortonjag 2008-03-11 09:10:36
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 11 2008, 09:08 AM) [snapback]417152[/snapback]
An Italian footballing priest has been reportedly sent off in a church tournament for throwing his shirt at the referee.

The incident, reminiscent of Antonio Cassano's red card for Sampdoria last weekend, happened in the Clericus Cup with the actions of the Burkina Faso priest leading to Paul the Apostle's College being eliminated.

In a memorable day for Italian amateur football, the president of minor league club Doria has decided to pull his side out of the championship, the division below Serie C, because of anger at refereeing decisions.

"We are retiring the team," Franco De Rose told Italy's ANSA news service. "We are tired of having to submit to injustices every Sunday."
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HOLY s***!
mortonjag 2008-03-11 09:44:52
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 11 2008, 09:16 AM) [snapback]417157[/snapback]
I'm s*** hot at the numbers game on countdown. I even got one right when Carol couldn't get it.

s***e at the letters round apart from the conundrum which I'm good at.

Which is strange as I was a lot better at English than maths at school. I know there's a big difference between Countdown and algorithms and the like but still perplexes me.

It's just a learned technique-there was a spell when I watched Countdown for a couple of months and by the end I was beating her quite often, but I've tuned in a couple of times recently and I've got 'rusty'.

There does seem to be a specific mental orientation which helps some folks to see conundrums (anagrams actually) quicker than others-it's more of a perceptive skill than the constructive one which is required for forming words from 'random' letters.
mortonjag 2008-03-11 09:51:47 laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


I like the bit about changing the laws so that anybody can shag Plinth Chas's boyfriend with impunity.

We need some scandal about Brown very soon-he is a sanctimonious serpent of the devil.

I bet HE shags wee boys up the arse and a dark close.
mortonjag 2008-03-11 10:53:36
QUOTE(tontastic @ Mar 11 2008, 10:18 AM) [snapback]417167[/snapback]
138 ... with a few guesses cos i've no idea what congruent means ...

Anagram of

GRENUC TON
mortonjag 2008-03-11 10:59:51 I think you need to make as much noise as possible right now, including a personal letter to Gordon Smith.

The SFA is still supposed to be the governing body in Scottish Football, and this is one issue where I believe he should be seen to justify his £160,000 p.a. salary, rather than passing matters back down the line.
mortonjag 2008-03-11 11:31:49
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 11 2008, 11:29 AM) [snapback]417189[/snapback]
What happens if the kids refuse ?

They will get their little pink botties skelped.
mortonjag 2008-03-11 11:33:55
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Mar 11 2008, 11:30 AM) [snapback]417190[/snapback]
exactly. I don't think its even got to white paper level yet. Hopefully it will die a quick death, although it would give eck an intersting quandry given his pro-royal tendencies. How will he want to support his favourite member of the royal family?

Bawheid is a ROYALIST?


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mortonjag 2008-03-11 11:43:24
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 11 2008, 11:41 AM) [snapback]417195[/snapback]
Good idea MJ. I will do that. Is he based at Hampden now or is it Park Gardens?

Anyone know who the contact point is at the SFL? Chief Executive, that sort of thing?

SFA, Hampden Park, Glasgow.
mortonjag 2008-03-11 11:50:47
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 11 2008, 11:38 AM) [snapback]417194[/snapback]
This ridiculous suggestion will die a quick death.

Incidentally my first wife claims she once snogged Gordon Brown at a rugby club disco in about 1972. Does that count as scandal? I always though GB was more orientated the other way. You know, sheep.


Well sheepskin jackets were all the fashion in 1972, and he'd have been using his right side for the drinking bit-easy mistake I'd guess!


He was accepted by the University of Edinburgh to study history at the age of only 16. He suffered a retinal detachment after being kicked in the head during an end-of-term rugby union match at his old school. He was left blind in his left eye,


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mortonjag 2008-03-11 15:03:36
QUOTE(Edinton @ Mar 11 2008, 01:30 PM) [snapback]417244[/snapback]
Aye. So, anyone going? I can't make it, would someone care to take notes and stick a post up that details the events?

OUTF*CKIN'RAGEOUS DERELICTION OF DUTY


How DARE you -- the 'embodiment' of this rag deign to blank the most important decision making event in the Morton fans' year? Rae will be laughing Fudgy Wudgy up both sleeves.

You'd better have a damned good excuse I can tell you. Mortonjag is very, very disappointed in you.
mortonjag 2008-03-11 15:10:57
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 11 2008, 02:27 PM) [snapback]417262[/snapback]
And in the accounting students terms.
...I think you might be f***ed Alibi! mellow.gif

....and in normal terms, where's the justice in that.

Mileson may be a charlatan whose maker's about to call him in, though I'd not be surprised to see him kicking around for a fair while yet.

Should he be allowed to pass away unscathed?
mortonjag 2008-03-11 15:17:50 You really believe all that Jersey stuff!
mortonjag 2008-03-11 15:25:44
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Mar 11 2008, 03:00 PM) [snapback]417269[/snapback]
Beacause I'm a True Brit I despise all this furrin flummery- that's for lesser breeds without that law, not the stout hearted Briton in his island fastness.
With Viagra? unsure.gif

Are you implying that Bawheid's a stand up comedian?
mortonjag 2008-03-11 15:36:15
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 11 2008, 01:06 PM) [snapback]417234[/snapback]
think it went really well smile.gif

there might still be time yet for me to become posh and up myself. biggrin.gif

wish me luck peasants.

Good luck!


BTW which particular job in which particular Hilton. The inside of the Paris version is a real mess I'm told.
mortonjag 2008-03-11 15:44:10
QUOTE(se65an @ Mar 11 2008, 03:37 PM) [snapback]417285[/snapback]
I agree, we should all swear at her.

I know a guy that was a cleaner in a hotel she was staying at, and after she visited the bog he had to check to make sure it was clean. And there right on the pan, was a pube. Its got to have been the queens pube as he cleaned it before she went in. So he popped it in a bag took it home and framed it.

Do you think it is against the law to keep it?

No it's not-finders keepers, but the clown should have it on E-Bay right now. Some crazy Yank will pay millions for a genuine ER 11 pube.
mortonjag 2008-03-11 15:46:48
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GreacensGenitals'[/color] date='Mar 11 2008, 03:44 PM' post='417289']
HardingsHamstring

Will give you the money on Saturday. Cheers.

Aye-right Wake's Walloper.
mortonjag 2008-03-11 15:49:07
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 11 2008, 03:46 PM) [snapback]417290[/snapback]
I was expelled for not believing in God ... so you can never guess what some over zealous so called educated people will do .

That's why I'm blanking the forthcoming Shoogly Show!
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mortonjag 2008-03-11 16:03:24
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Mar 11 2008, 04:00 PM) [snapback]417295[/snapback]
Off to the game tonight but sitting looking out of my work window in Glasgow and it's honking with rain, hope to good it's not another call off 10mins from the stadium sad.gif

You's think it will be ok?

That seems to be the story of your life-get on with yer bloody work and let the game take care of itself.

It's ON and we're going to win!
mortonjag 2008-03-11 16:06:01
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 11 2008, 04:01 PM) [snapback]417296[/snapback]
Aye well I'm going to press for immediate winding up before all the assets are gone - including the £350k that is reportedly on its way from those nice people at the SPL. This weekend could be their last ever game.

Someone suggested sending in the Sheriff Officers to seize their strips. 30 minutes before kick off...... I like that idea. Strips might have historical value in a year or two.

Hmm...asset stripping, or stripping assets?
mortonjag 2008-03-11 16:09:11
QUOTE(aimlesswanderer @ Mar 11 2008, 04:06 PM) [snapback]417303[/snapback]
I always thought Mileson was a good guy but I'm starting to have my doubts - he must have known that things were going pear-shaped before his illness so why were there no plans put in place? And I don't really understand how his resting from a serious illness means that he can't put money into the club any more - if he's out of hospital then surely he can approve of financial transactions? I would have also thought he would have direct debits set up to pay the players and staff wages every week?

It looks as though the whole Gretna adventure was to prove that he could take a club through the leagues but now that Gretna are no longer "sexy" and have gone as far as they can he seems to have lost interest. Very dissappointing.

Life is enriched greatly by genuine souls like yourself, even if the Milesons of this world are fatally attracted to them.
mortonjag 2008-03-11 16:12:25
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Mar 11 2008, 04:08 PM) [snapback]417305[/snapback]
If anyone's to blame it's them, sticking a window in my office! what a nerve eh! blink.gif

What was there before the window?
mortonjag 2008-03-11 16:15:19
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 11 2008, 04:03 PM) [snapback]417298[/snapback]
As long as he doesn't sniff it I'm sdure he will be fine
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mortonjag 2008-03-11 16:16:49
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Mar 11 2008, 04:12 PM) [snapback]417311[/snapback]
the Hilton just off the m8 looks ok but it has a rodent problem - seen 3 rats last time i was there, probably posh rats though! place is extortionate as well, bought 2 double vodkas and coke, charged me £18 for the privelege!

What were the rats drinking?
mortonjag 2008-03-11 16:25:06
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 8 2008, 04:41 PM) [snapback]415958[/snapback]
I read a report last year saying inner city estates in London, Manchester and Birmingham have outrageous levels of inbreeding. Because of lack of money, drug and alcohol abuse and the threat of violence if they venture outwith their own estate and the rise in single mothers/absent fathers people are sleeping with their cousins, half cousins, half-siblings and s*** without even realising they're related.

Cue the good people of Norfolk slagging off Londoners for being inbred..

They are afraid of violence if they venture outwith their own estate-hence the indiscriminate shag fest?


Could they not ask for police protection? I really feel for those souls-it's not right that they should have to shag any old Tom Dick or Hairy-is it?
mortonjag 2008-03-11 16:27:05
QUOTE(Lindberg6 @ Mar 11 2008, 04:23 PM) [snapback]417318[/snapback]
bouncing in Glasgow at the moment....and I see the Jags game at firhill has been called off.

I phoned Clyde about 15 mins ago and when I asked if the game was in any doubt I was told 'no, pitch is perfect'........by a woman who had obviously not completed her 'Telephone Manner' course...!

That would be the groundswummin.
mortonjag 2008-03-11 16:28:06
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 11 2008, 04:22 PM) [snapback]417316[/snapback]
Thistle game v Stirling has been called off though

Cos it doubles as a rugby pitch and gets mashed to f*ck Puggs.
mortonjag 2008-03-11 17:44:54
QUOTE(aimlesswanderer @ Mar 11 2008, 04:31 PM) [snapback]417326[/snapback]
I'm not a remotely naive and gullible person - I'm very skeptical most of the time. I always thought that what Mileson was doing was misguided and pretty pointless but I didn't think he'd bail out like this when the going got tough.

Well I guess we'll never really know what motivated Mileson. He's been described in today's papers by one of the Gretna execs as an 'experienced accountant'. Now I don't know if he's suggesting that Pony Tail has formal accountancy qualifications, but if he has the whole charade is more criminal than ever.

How could an apparently sane person with assets reportedly to the tune of some £70 million believe that a village with a population of 2,700 could maintain a viable SFL, let alone SPL club?

More importantly, how long did he imagine his 70 million was going to last, if he indeed intended to bankroll them 'for ever'.

At my most generous, I can excuse him for a crazy error of judgement, but he's had plenty of time to bring Gretna back down to earth gently. Instead he's just let them go to the dogs.

For that he deserves everything that's being flung at him.
mortonjag 2008-03-11 17:51:09
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 11 2008, 04:27 PM) [snapback]417321[/snapback]
Well it's been all over the news so aye

That's a shame-are you embarrassed?
mortonjag 2008-03-11 17:52:43
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 11 2008, 04:20 PM) [snapback]417315[/snapback]
I think if I saw her muff I would be offended!

Then you have done well to avoid gynaecology, young man!
mortonjag 2008-03-11 17:53:53
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 11 2008, 04:27 PM) [snapback]417322[/snapback]
With the long line of kiss and tells about Diana , is that why there is so much prison overcrowding ??

Guess thats why she was called the peoples princess cool.gif
Seriously a democratic country trying to force children to pay homage to an unelected , archaic sovereign .

Wouldn't it be more apt to show allegiance to the Stars and Strips of the US . We are afterall the 51st state.

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mortonjag 2008-03-11 17:56:30
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Mar 11 2008, 05:30 PM) [snapback]417346[/snapback]
Tourists interested in Scottish Power tongue.gif

No doubt having been mailed the brochure by Bannock Baws!
mortonjag 2008-03-11 17:59:02
QUOTE(capitanus @ Mar 11 2008, 05:40 PM) [snapback]417351[/snapback]
I worked in the Glasgow Hilton back in 1998 for around 6 weeks, what was your interview for?

The kitchens were immaculate, and they were a decent bunch to work with.

Good Luck.

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How much did kitchen porters get paid in those days Caputupanus? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-11 18:15:09
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 11 2008, 06:04 PM) [snapback]417361[/snapback]
It was a no brainer!

Have you always been better at COUNTING?
mortonjag 2008-03-11 18:56:21
QUOTE(capitanus @ Mar 11 2008, 06:45 PM) [snapback]417371[/snapback]
More than many Commis Chefs, which if i remember right was around £8k/a back then. sad.gif

Kitchen Porters are grafters, a lot of those guys are worth their weight in gold. The same could probably be said about Hospital Porters, who get all the dirty jobs and heavy lifting to do.

No shame to them, i'm not a career snob. smile.gif

No shame to them indeed-one of my most enjoyable memories was working as a theatre porter in the old Pishley RAI. Great guys, and great laughs. My friend Rab works as a kitchen porter-wasn't his career choice-but it's what life has landed him with-and he really enjoys the work. Mind you he does get treated like s*** by the aspirant Gordon effin' Ramsays.

Anyway-must rush off to this game!!
mortonjag 2008-03-11 22:35:27 ...or time to be patient?


Bitterly disappointed not to have taken three points tonight. IMO this was THE game which could have made the rest of the season more comfortable, and we've come home with 'nothing changed'.

When JM left, Rae was quick to regret that this is a results driven business. In that respect nothing has changed. Every excuse under the sun can be wheeled out, but tonight Irons failed us.

Sure, those are early days, and I still give my support to the new management, but facts are chiels that winna ding, and the fact is we have four points from a possible twelve.

Hardly inspiring stuff.
mortonjag 2008-03-11 22:54:45
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Mar 11 2008, 09:43 PM) [snapback]417574[/snapback]
Melatonin 3mg for a few nights until you get back into a sleep routine. It doesn't make you drowsy either when you take it or throughout the day. It induces a natural sleep and you wake when light appears, refreshed. I found this when my friends' child who has Aspergers and wouldn't sleep was prescribed it at 3yrs old. It is also being introduced to Old folks homes here so that the patients aren't groggy during the day. You can only get it here on special prescription but is freely available in the USA both in drugstores and health food stores. You can also get it from Worldwide Labs .com.

It is really handy to have if like me you suffer from bouts of insomnia. smile.gif

Hit me with it MortonJag

I don't know that much about the stuff-it certainly seems a more sensible approach than traditional hypnotics but I've picked up on this.....


Melatonin can cause somnolence, and therefore caution should be shown when driving, operating machinery, etc.
mortonjag 2008-03-11 22:56:06
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 11 2008, 09:44 PM) [snapback]417575[/snapback]
with a nice wee mask wink.gif

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A small price to pay for a decent night's sleep Bryan!
mortonjag 2008-03-11 23:02:32
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 11 2008, 11:00 PM) [snapback]417624[/snapback]
For a start every time any goalkeeper loses a goal they go nuts. I've never once saw Robinson go through his defenders and, if any defenders deserved it, it's our lot this season. When he's warming up at half time if he's a sub, or before the game if he starts, he doesn't bother warming up properly. He wanders about trying overhead kicks or, worst of all, nothing and has an air of arrogance about him as tho' he thinks he's better than the club.

And he's s***.

So you don't like him then?
mortonjag 2008-03-11 23:04:57
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 11 2008, 10:57 PM) [snapback]417623[/snapback]
I shave round my beard rather than let it become an undefined mess, so I do shave smile.gif

I must be the only person who likes the single bic razors, minus my dad. That and shaving gel. I have tried the fancy 3 blade efforts but maybe my facial hair is just too coarse as all I do is block the things up and can never get the hair out!

You don't shave your pubic hair Puggs-I'm told you're scared to look at it!
mortonjag 2008-03-12 06:24:59
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 11 2008, 09:59 PM) [snapback]417599[/snapback]
when did i say he should f*** off? the only time i remember saying that was as a joke after something happened (cant remember exactly what)

but ill tell him at the Q&A laugh.gif

If we ship three points this weekend 'Q & A' will be off again! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-12 06:27:11
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 12:05 AM) [snapback]417710[/snapback]
its hard for players to come into a new club and play with people theyve never played with in normal circumstances nevermind come in and be expected to single handedly keep the team up.

Jenkin's was seen as some sort of saviour which he was never going to be, but he adds to our midfield and will only get better in time.

That sounds like common sense, but 'time' is running short!
mortonjag 2008-03-12 06:39:57
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 12 2008, 12:02 AM) [snapback]417702[/snapback]
We really have had more than our fair share of bad luck. Here's a selection of matches where with a little luck we could have taken something

1st September Morton 0 Queens 1
29 September Dundee 2 Morton 1
27 October Hamilton 1 Morton 0
26 December Morton 0 Dunfermline 1
9 February Morton 1 Clyde 2

All the above matches were games where we dominated play for most of the game and still lost. OK there's a recurring theme that we can't score, but one more point from each of the above which, on the day no one would have argued was unfair, would see us just about safe now.

When its not going your way, you don't get many breaks either. Even tonight I would not argue that a draw was not a fair result but the goal we conceded was a freak caused 60% by the weather and 40% by Robinson.

Numbers man, you scare the s*** out of me.

Every single time you start trawling through your reams of stats to put a positive spin on things, we seem to go from bad to worse!

Here's my very unscientific assessment of our current position.

Rae + JM + current squad = failure


Rae - JM + current squad = failure

Rae - JM + DI + current squad = failure


Now I'm far from a mathematician, let alone a statistician, but as far as I can see, the only way this equation can now be altered to avoid relegation is by changing 'current squad'.

Desperate times Shoogly-last chance saloon today at the Gretna bankruptcy sale. You've assured us that Mr Irons will bring home the bacon.

Pit yer money where yer mooth is and gie him a wee haun please.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 06:45:21
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 11 2008, 10:48 PM) [snapback]417619[/snapback]
we have shown improvement, Stirling was a must win game, thats already one more must win game than we won the whole time JM was in charge.

like it or not we have a few players in our squad who are really bad players at this level, no new manager can change that.

you cant judge a manager until it is his team, and this is most definetely still JM's team.

do you think any manager that was comfortable with what he's got would keep rotating the goalkeeper around? no. its because he's obviously not happy with either of them, but can do nothing about it.

our defense will keep making mistakes no matter who the manager is.

although i wasnt happy at his appointment to begin with, i feel if we get relegated it will be because of JM and Iron's is the man to take us forward again.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


You're yon' guy who stocks up his lobby with toilet rolls just in case he gets diarrhoea next year and there's a paper strike.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 06:53:01
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 12 2008, 12:24 AM) [snapback]417737[/snapback]
Strongly disagree.
McGurn is the best of a bad double act - Robinson was ditched by the new management team for being terrible previously.
Our midfield was completely non-existent tonight: this is a relegation dogfight - we can't continue with mediocrity simpley bacause of adverse weather or a lack of confidence in their replacements.
Stevenson showed enough on Saturday to at least merit a sub appearance - particularly when there was an abundance of underperforming midfielders tonight to hook.
I have to say I'm not convinced.

This pains me young mooth, but today I agree with you.

Indeed DI has a mountain to climb, and it's all too easy to blame EVERYTHING on JM.

JM HAS GONE R.I.P.


Now let's have some f*cking honesty. I said at the start of last season we'd win it in spite of JM.

I'm getting a bit scared we may be relegated in spite of DI, as it seems he does NOT have that extra magic which we require at present.


I will not judge him finally until the fate's been decided, but I'm not going to start looking for excuses for a piss awful result in last night's cruncher.

On that result, he's a failure in my book.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 06:57:37 As said elsewhere the persistence with this chappie can no longer be blamed on JM. Indeed the only person party to his signing apart from JM was Shoogly.

Don't say that old fudd's still 'helping' to pick the team!!! unsure.gif unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-12 07:00:04
QUOTE(BluebirdTon @ Mar 11 2008, 11:41 PM) [snapback]417664[/snapback]
A goalkeeper is a must.Lee Robinson is a complete and utter disgrace,and an embarassment to the club.

Release the useless reptile at once !

"Mistakes" seem to be a common feature in this guys game.Exactly what we could do without at this stage,in this mess.

Don't youmean 'simian'?
mortonjag 2008-03-12 07:01:08 Plenty of Gretna players going on sale soon.

Money please Shoogly.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 07:03:54
QUOTE(Mags @ Mar 12 2008, 12:38 AM) [snapback]417752[/snapback]
How many chances does Brian Graham need ???
Mags.

When a guy can turn in a performance like young Brian did in the first half at Palmerston AGAINST DI, it defeats logic that he's been by-passed so much by the shiny new Shoogly machine.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 07:06:19
QUOTE(Andy M @ Mar 12 2008, 01:37 AM) [snapback]417770[/snapback]
Last nights game at Clyde saw you good people break through a terrific milestone.

The money raised from this season's webcasts has now reached over £500.

So far, we have handed over £120 to the disabled ramp fund.

We have also raised just over £380 for the Greenock Morton Supporters Trust.

Thanks to everyone who has contributed and especially to those who have sponsored indivdiual webcasts.

There's still a couple more games to go and anyone can sponsor the remaining games.

The final game at Firhill will be a FREE webcast. Donations can still be made, but are not essential. So, for anyone who has not yet tried the webcast and cant get to the game, here's your chance to give it a go. Always good for the real-time banter during the match if nothing else.

Well done Andy.

BTW can anybody join? sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-12 07:08:05
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 11 2008, 11:12 PM) [snapback]417636[/snapback]
I think I prefer you blink.gif

You're losing your marbles!
mortonjag 2008-03-12 07:09:35
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 12 2008, 12:15 AM) [snapback]417720[/snapback]
Three factors that led to the goal were:
1. The weather
2. A sclaffed clearance from Harding
3. A young keeper who lacks confidence
The sum resulted in another embarrassment for the Ton.

HA HA Mr Edwards-so it was actually HARDING'S fault.

Personally I blame DI.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 07:11:11
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 12 2008, 12:21 AM) [snapback]417731[/snapback]
Agreed, apart from giving Harding the sole blame (well I sponsor his kit after all). Both goals were freakish.

The dark secrets of Mr Edwards' wash house! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-12 07:16:23
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Mar 12 2008, 03:59 AM) [snapback]417771[/snapback]
Harding played a part taking far too long to clear but Robinson's attempt to judge the situation was shocking. I'd lay the majority of the blame firmly with him.

I'd go as far as to say I hope he doesn't play for the club again, he's a liabilty. There's no point in playing okay for most of the match and then conceding an absolute howler. I'm not a big McGurn fan either but I'd much rather have him in goal.

Roninson hasn't the maturity we desperately need in our current plight, so WTF was he playing, and WTF was Stevenson NOT after Saturday's shift. Brian Graham's another who's not even had a wee shot yet.

I'm already beginning to think that Mr Irons fails to demonstrate that wee extra bit I'd so much been hoping for.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 07:18:51 The Ref was nearer than me. I thought it was a penalty.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 07:26:27 It's a pretty daft poll IMO-only because the result is inevitable.

I'm banging the big drum again, but the fact that we are three quarters through this season with only ONE registered goalkeeper and an OF 'palm off' is an indictment of the Club's organisation.

This is but one example of the f*cking shambles that is SS Shoogly.

'Don't you think those boys deserve the chance to take us forward'?


The chance has been well blown Mr Rae, and time is rapidly running out.

Sign some Gretna players now-it's your last chance.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 07:33:03
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Mar 11 2008, 09:52 PM) [snapback]417593[/snapback]
I saw a victory as what I would have settled for tonight. Clyde and Livi still have those games in hand and as Irons says we are now in a mini league- we need to win those games or we can be back in 9th again.

Nothing short of three points was acceptable. This was THE BIGGIE which could have eased the pressure, and we failed. We have been used to the players failing, but Rae assured us things were now going to improve. I'm still waiting.

Nothing personal against the DI/DC team-it's extremely difficult to pick up the pieces, but that 'wee bit extra' would have seen us with more than four points from twelve.

It just isn't there.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 07:37:03
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 11 2008, 11:33 PM) [snapback]417654[/snapback]
me too, i dont think there are two " celebrities " i dislike more tongue.gif

Aye two celebrity lumps of plastic accompanied by two tits.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 07:41:05
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 12 2008, 12:03 AM) [snapback]417703[/snapback]
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Don't just gawk-explain yourself-you hate pubes-you seem to sense an inherent guff in every last curly DNA strand and spend half the time wearing a skirt to ventilate yer gusset.

Learn to like yourself boy-you are all you've got.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 07:44:50
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 12 2008, 12:21 AM) [snapback]417732[/snapback]
Augustus would have been my personal choice. sad.gif tongue.gif

The Story of Augustus who not have any Soup

Augustus was a chubby lad;
Fat ruddy cheeks Augustus had;
And everybody saw with joy
The plump and hearty healthy boy.
He ate and drank as he was told,
And never let his soup get cold.
But one day, one cold winter's day,
He threw away the spoon and screamed:
"O take the nasty soup away!
I won't have any soup to-day:
I will not, will not eat my soup!
I will not eat it, no!"


Next day! now look, the picture shows
How lank and lean Augustus grows!
Yet, though he feels so weak and ill,
The naughty fellow cries out still
"Not any soup for me, I say!
O take the nasty soup away!
I will not, will not eat my soup!
I will not eat it, no!"


The third day comes. O what a sin!
To make himself so pale and thin.
Yet, when the-soup is put on table,
He screams, as loud as he is able
"Not any soup for me, I say!
O take the nasty soup away!
I won't have any soup to-day!"


Look at him, now the fourth day's come!
He scarce outweighs a sugar-plum;


He's like a little bit of thread;
And on the fifth day he was-dead.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 07:57:23
QUOTE(chris_mceleny @ Mar 11 2008, 11:43 PM) [snapback]417666[/snapback]
You've really missed the point there! Did you read ''The Parable of the Talents ''? I'm sure you'll understand the point if you read over it again. Matthew 25:14-30

I never miss the point Chris.

In the parable of the talents the f*ckin' chancer is portrayed as the 'goodie' while the cautious lad who lacked confidence in his own ability gets slagged off. I always found something inherently un-Christian in that one.

Mileson and Christ have many similarities, not least in that the former is now being crucified for his sins.

And he didn't even need to pretend he walked across the Solway to con the bumpkins.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 08:52:03
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 12 2008, 08:40 AM) [snapback]417806[/snapback]
I don't once mention my pubes in my first comment blink.gif

Betty's pubes, your pubes-any old pubes Puggs

You are a chronic curlyphobic!
mortonjag 2008-03-12 08:53:24
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 12 2008, 08:18 AM) [snapback]417801[/snapback]
Why don't you ask him at the Q&A?

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mortonjag 2008-03-12 08:55:44
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 08:14 AM) [snapback]417800[/snapback]
you say that like its a bad thing, whos door will you come to when incontinence kicks in and all the paper has went on strike?

I have a garage full of toilet rolls young man, but they only appeared AFTER the incontinence kicked in.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 08:57:35
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 08:19 AM) [snapback]417802[/snapback]
its f***ing hard to do magic when Greacen and Harding are your beautiful assistants, Robinson is the rabbit in the hat practicing overhead kicks and you're trying to do card tricks with all the Jokers still in the pack.

we've played 5 teams under DI, we've lost to the top three teams and got a home win and an away draw against the teams around us.

you werent looking for magic....you were looking for a miracle.

Not really,--just the magical ability to get something quite good out of something quite bad-it's not a miracle as Alan Moore will tell you.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 09:05:07
QUOTE(aimlesswanderer @ Mar 12 2008, 08:48 AM) [snapback]417808[/snapback]
I have read and heard plenty about Gretna. I read about Gretna and Mileson's financial problems in the Sunday Mail on Sunday but I've read other people saying that this has all been exagerrated and that Brooks isn't in financial trouble, so I'm not sure what to believe.

The bottom line is I don't believe that Brooks ill health is the reason that he has withdrawn his support for Gretna - it's either down to lack of money or he's become fed up with the whole thing because he's realised that it will eventually lead to his ruin. And it really annoys me that because Mileson has health problems and was popular with the media he's getting off very lightly for his irresponsible behaviour.

The closest you're likely to get to the truth is by listening to Alibi.

He was pretty supportive of Mileson even when shadows were falling over Raydale.

He has now been thoroughly sickened by a man whom he found 'personable'.

Mileson is NOT bust-far from it-he could repay Alibi from his 'hippie' and hardly notice the difference.

Limited liability companies and shysters have always been mutually attracted. I understand that over 30 companies of Pony Tails have already been folded.

I believe the in term to be 'doing a Phoenix'.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 09:09:34
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 08:24 AM) [snapback]417803[/snapback]
we werent ready to get promoted to the first anyway, we obviously should have been given the 3 years JM had to get us ready but he f***ed about overloading our midfield with mediocre players and leaving everywhere else thin.

as much as id love to stay up i dont think us going down would be the disaster everyone thinks it would be. I fully believe Iron's and Collin's will build a squad capable of competing in the first division next season, wether we have to spend a year in the 2nd to get that right is almost irrelevant to me. we spent so long in the lower leagues that one more year to get it right wouldnt bother me all that much.

That is frankly pathetic.

Be thoroughly ashamed of yourself!!!


If I end up having to travel to s***holes like Stranraer and Forfar again it'll just about break my heart. What's so bloody daunting about a club with Morton's potential managing to cope with the first division?

It's all very well for you young bucks! mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-12 09:21:42
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 12 2008, 08:53 AM) [snapback]417812[/snapback]
If you know me you'd find it quite ironic that there is no way I could be a curlyphobe. If I was I would have hung myself years ago wink.gif

A chronic shortancurlyphobic I should have said.

I'm well aware you don't need to wear Sou' Westers!
mortonjag 2008-03-12 09:26:59
QUOTE(tontric @ Mar 12 2008, 09:14 AM) [snapback]417827[/snapback]
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I'm not blaming Jenkins (or Irons). I'm just pointing out that his performance levels haven't been any better than what we could have got from existing (lower paid) players.
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He's had one good game. He hasn't even got close to being great.
As I said earlier. I'm not blaming Irons or Jenkins for anything. In fact I started a thread recently stating that I had been quite impressed with what Irons had done at the club so far.

I also really hope that Jenkins is going to show us how good a player he really is. Sooner rather than later would be good......

I'll second all that. We can't judge DI/DC fairly in terms of having had a full season with their own players.

It's perfectly legitimate, however, to comment on how well they are doing with limited resources, and I'd propose that last night's result suggest they ain't doing too well.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 09:36:14
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 12 2008, 09:31 AM) [snapback]417833[/snapback]
I'll allow the manager the benefit of the doubt until we know why McGurn was not playing last night. He might be carrying a knock which they did not want to risk by playing him the full game or some such similar reason. If not, I too question the judgement that plays Robinson ahead of McGurn, even if he was poor on Saturday.

Agreed-I'm already beginning to sense a 'hit and hope' aspect to DI's approach, and it's too much like deja vu if you ask me.

Jamie Stevenson played his best game in a Ton shirt for ages on Saturday, and others were still favoured, so the argument that it was based on Saturday's form looks a bit weak.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 09:38:33
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 09:31 AM) [snapback]417834[/snapback]
it shouldnt be daunting, but most clubs with our potential dont have Jim Mcinally in charge for nearly 4 years.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

...or a clown for a Chairman??? ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-12 09:39:54
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 09:36 AM) [snapback]417838[/snapback]
he was good on his debut against St Johnstone and against stirling, thats two good games.

Alan Jenkins will be more of an asset to this club over the next few years than Alex Walker will ever be. Form is temporary but class is permanent as they say, and Jenkin's has proven he's good enough to play in the SPL, 1st division and 2nd division.

its hard for someone to show how good a player they are when they come into a team with no confidence with players who make little or no movement and space for themselves.

his driving runs have been an asset in 2 games since he arrived, infact he's the first morton midfielder ive seen inside the 6 yard box in about 4 years.

he will get better and better the longer he's here and he's one of only one or two match winners we have in the squad.

Jenkins has already proven his ability.

Why has he been so crap for us? Blaming others is a 'cop out'.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 09:46:19
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 09:41 AM) [snapback]417844[/snapback]
stirling had an excellent squad last season, one well capable of competing at 1st division level. like ours, their squad was weakened in the summer but they still managed to play decent football and give teams a real good game in most of their games.

Alan Moore would not have got us any more points than we have under Iron's already.

just about any Morton fan, although hoping for full points would have settled for 4 points when they saw a home game against Stirling and an away game against Clyde.

if we stay up this season then it will be down to our results in these two games, although i doubt many people will look back and congratulate Iron's on that.

That is pure conjecture, and in my opinion is also mince.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 09:52:36
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 09:44 AM) [snapback]417845[/snapback]
im not blaming others, he hasnt played to his full potential yet, but he's definetely added something to our team.

it may be a cop out but overlooking the fact that the players behind him and infront of him arent good enough, making it harder for him to have any real impact would be ignorant at best.

is it a coincidence that the two games we've played well in and provided an attacking threat against St Johnstone and Stirling are the two games that Jenkins has played well? i think not.

It's a fact that our two BIG signings Jenkins and McGuffie-guys whose past records speak for themselves, have both failed abysmally to come here and make an immediate impact.

For some reason that's what happens at Cappielow. I used to blame JM, but he's gone and the disease lingers.

We haven't time to wait for a gradual adjustment to the huge pressures of a lower division!!!!!
mortonjag 2008-03-12 09:56:07
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 12 2008, 09:53 AM) [snapback]417854[/snapback]
I was always going to be open to ridicule in posting this topic but I personally believe it. W've had a lot more lucky breaks go against us than for us this season and two of the best examples were the loss to Dunfermline at Cappielow and Clyde's 2 goals in the last minute the other week.

It does'nt alter the fact that the squad are not good enough and I am not trying to say that.

Well they say that what goes round comes round-time will tell!
mortonjag 2008-03-12 09:59:59 I'm puzzled by the enthusiasm for threads like this-is there something terribly 'Macho' about having to pull the fuzz off your face (or not bothering for that matter).

I'd be much more interested to know what proportion of our good folks chew their snotters.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 10:07:42
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 09:57 AM) [snapback]417856[/snapback]
so are you saying we should get rid of them then?

you expect too much. you expect people to come in and fix 4 years of bad work in the space of a Month. Things wont be the way we hoped it would be at the start of this season for at least another year.

we dont have time for Gradual Adjustment, but sacking our manager are the end of January means it was all we were ever going to get. for that im going to let you off your leash so you can have a go at your shoogly.

He's NOT MY Shoogly-if he was I'd have him sorted out and all would be well.

It's funny how you think you can get off with throw away comments like 'four years of bad work', now that JM has gone-even though I agree with you. The general disenchantment with JM is only months old.

You are deliberately dodging the issue. Irons has been brought here primarily to keep us in division 1.

I believe things are better than they were, but he failed last night to get three points against a side who are NOT better than us, and that had f*ck all to do with JM.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 10:11:51
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 10:01 AM) [snapback]417858[/snapback]
fixed it for you tongue.gif

we haven't came close to beating the top 3 teams this season, a couple of draws and thats it. Allan Moore would not have made us capable of beating these teams within a month of arriving.

this season against clyde we've won a game where they had a legitimate goal disallowed in the last minute, won 1-0 away from home and lost 2-1 at home.

we are both pretty even teams so a 1-1 result away from home in a game in swirling winds where even if both teams knew how to play good football it wouldnt have been possible is not a bad result.

It is a disgusting result, and mainly because we didn't turn up. That, IMHO, is ultimately down to the manager.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 10:22:42
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Mar 12 2008, 10:15 AM) [snapback]417863[/snapback]

“This is not the age of reason, this is the age of flummery, and the day of the devious approach. Reason’s gone into the backrooms where it works to devise means by which people can be induced to emote in the desired direction.”
mortonjag 2008-03-12 10:27:45
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 10:19 AM) [snapback]417864[/snapback]
im afraid, seeing as he is no one elses shoogy...that makes him yours.

Hindsight is a funny thing, us playing below our level was very misleading which we are paying for now, and ive given you credit in the past for being right before us all, although i still believe the people who supported JM when we were top of the league were correct to do so as if they weren't then there would be no point being a football supporter of a club like Morton if you dont appreciate success when it comes along.

were we not 9th when Iron's took over, now we are 8th.
we hadnt won a must win game in 4 years when Iron's took over, we have now.
we had just lost 2-1 at home to clyde when Iron's took over, we drew 1-1 with them away under him.

Iron's is doing his part of the bargain in keeping us in division one. he was brought in to make us progress and we've progressed more in a month than we did in the 5 months JM had in charge of us in this division.

they aren't better than us, but results this season show they arent worse than us either. while he is playing with JM's players this season a huge part of the blame for not winning games like last night will always fall on JM's door in my eyes.

So you reckon our performance under Irons last night was an improvement?

It's easy to cite individual games-don't forget JM HUMPED Irons with our 'crap' squad down at Palmerston.

There is still time, but three points last night would have made things SO much easier, and quite simply he FAILED.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 10:31:50
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 10:25 AM) [snapback]417868[/snapback]
why is it Managers arent praised for good results, like our good performance against Stirling, but a poor performance is greeted with insults and questioning ability?

an away point against any team in this division is a good result for us, even more so that we didnt play well. if we'd played them off the park and still drew then you'd be even more upset now.

Insults?

You are simply playing devil's advocate on this, and you ain't getting much support.

It's very simple PT-based on the task in hand, Irons was a failure last night.

FACT-not insult.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 10:36:50
QUOTE(nani @ Mar 12 2008, 10:33 AM) [snapback]417872[/snapback]
I have seen Jenkins a no of times over the years though last night was first time I have seen him for us. Honestly I always thought he was mediocre and last night he was anonymous as has McGuffie been though I thought last night he was slightly better.
Jenkins always seemed to me overweight, slow and cumbersome and perhaps he has never properly recovered from the lenghty absence he had due to injury. He was certainly more influential as a Stranraer player. I have to say though that many posters on this board have ranted on and on about signing Jenkins....I could never see why.
Our best players consistently are Miller and McAllister and the only other player we have who has genuine class and the ability to do something a bit different is Stevenson. McLaughlin, Mcguffie and Jenkins are merely water carriers and two of them would be plenty. So I would give Jamie a chance. I realise that he has had a poor season but has been played in a no of positions and has looked disinterested on occasion. But if he`s fit I would play him in the next few games and drop any 1 of the other 3.
The one thing that we can do nothing about is the goalie (both are poor) and the defence until Smith is fit and can bring a wee bit of experience albeit he`s no long term answer. The one thing you can guarantee is that we will continue to lose goals with the players we have at the back. Our strength, or should be , is in the middle of the park and if we could create chances for Weatherson he would score a few....but I can hardly remember the last time Weatherson had a chance to score bar free kicks.
Obviously if we could benefit from Gretna`s plight then all well and good though I a would assume their better players would be coveted by better teams than us...why exactly would Innes or Skelton come to Morton?

Money?

But then Shoogly's skint!
mortonjag 2008-03-12 10:43:09
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 10:34 AM) [snapback]417873[/snapback]
i reckon last night was a game that under JM we would have lost after losing the equaliser yes, i see that as improvement.

Gretna dont count when it comes to humpings. tongue.gif

it would have made it easier, obviously. but if making things easy is what you want then every single manager Morton has ever had has been a failure.

we were in the play-off spot when he took over and livingston weren't even on our minds. now we're in 8th place and livingston have been dragged into the relegation mix due to the points we have picked up since he came.

if thats failure for you then you must have had a VERY successful life.

I guess I've had a reasonably successful life-well I'm damned sure I'd award myself slightly more than four points out of twelve, and in situations where success was absolutely vital, I can't remember ever losing, so aye, maybe I do expect too much.

I suppose it's down to mentality, and if you're a 'loser' by nature, you could argue that last night's fiasco result was acceptable!
mortonjag 2008-03-12 10:48:34
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 10:39 AM) [snapback]417877[/snapback]
if Iron's was a failure last night then that would make John Brown a success, yet they were at home and are still below us in the league. Go Figure.

you said to me not to judge people on induvidual results, yet you've already described Iron's as a failure because of last nights result.

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That is incorrect. I have stated that with reference purely to last night's result, relative to the task in hand, he is a failure. I have not suggested that he was a failure against St Johnstone, or even Hamilton, and we dealt with Stirling fairly well, but last night was a crunch game, and you can argue till you are blue in the face-he f*cked up!
mortonjag 2008-03-12 10:51:31
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 12 2008, 10:49 AM) [snapback]417880[/snapback]
The wars in Afganistan and Iraq are set to hit £3.25bns per annum this year.This is just a waste of good taxpayers money that could be better spent elsewhere.

"The Commons defence committee said operational costs for this financial year were now forecast to reach £3.297bn - a 94% increase on last year.

WAR ! What is it good for ?

It gives you something to post about Spurtle.

BTW were you at Broadwood last night-there wasn't much fighting there!
mortonjag 2008-03-12 11:14:24
QUOTE(tontric @ Mar 12 2008, 10:53 AM) [snapback]417883[/snapback]
Not as sh*te as Robinson is ever time he plays which you would think would make him our first choice keeper.

We'll have a new keeper next season as I don't think either of them are good enough however until that point McGurn should be first choice.

Have to agree. I've been making excuses for the wee ginger one all season, but the bottom line is that he does not COMMAND the goal area. That would be bad enough with an experienced defence in front of him, but I just can't understand him being preferred over McGurn, especially for such a crucial match.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 11:16:53
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 10:55 AM) [snapback]417885[/snapback]
we didnt lose!!! we gained no ground and lost no ground. we are ahead of them in the league.

the fact is, if he hadnt f***ed up before last nights game, then there is no way he has f***ed up after last nights game because NOTHING HAS CHANGED.

Something has very much changed-we have one less game left in which to pick up three points, and Clyde still have a game in hand.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 11:21:46
QUOTE(nani @ Mar 12 2008, 10:57 AM) [snapback]417887[/snapback]
Dont think either of you are correct here. McInally was never as bad as Port ton stated and we had many good results and performances under him.....we were very consistent by finishing in the top 2 in both of his 2 full seasons while only missing out by a point in his first season having been 10 or 12 points behind when he got the job and had the task of overhauling the team and getting rid of a few pissheads (Maisanos, williams etc). Plus he took us to a couple of semi finals in the Diddy Cup (losing to the Skunks on penalties...very unluckily) and we beat a couple of SPL teams in the Cup so to call it 4 years of bad work is nonsense. The big mistake was in the Summer with poor signings. Primarily due to not securing McGowan and ending up with Russell left us with a poorer team than last season. Not getting Sutton and Mensing instead getting McAnespie and Gardyne tells its own story. Was that his fault or Shooglys? However he recognised that he could do no more, was tired of the personal abuse and the abuse of players and figured the honourable thing to do was go....which he did.
Morton Jag I feel you`re a bit quick to slag off Irons but recognise your concerns. Should he have got the job in the 1st place given his track record. Probably not. But he did therefore he`ll at least need to get the time to sign his own players then judgement can be made. Whether or not that is in the 1st or 2nd Div remains to be seen but I have a terrible fear after last night that it will be the play offs for us and none of us would be too confident playing Airdrie or Raith with the current team. Last night was a great opportunity, we were marginally the better of the 2 teams but our defence is shocking and only we could have conceded a goal like their equaliser. It could have ended up even worse without Robinsons terrific save and the woodwork....I think too many people on this board make managers the scapegoat for everything. Morton Jag we just have to hope we finish 8th and get another chance in the Summer to rectify the mistakes made last Summer.

I'd like to state categorically that I'm not 'having a go' at Davie Irons, if he was brought here on the basis of accepting relegation.

My understanding is that he's here to guarantee first division status initially. In that respect last night's result is an IMMENSE set back.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 11:24:19
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 11:06 AM) [snapback]417889[/snapback]
name one must win game we won under JM?

Stranraer away
Peterhead in the playoffs
Stirling at all last season
Raith the day we won the league
arguably two challenge cup semi finals

we lost them all.

wins against Kilmarnock and and St Johnstone that we werent expected to win in cups masked this slightly.

beating the likes of Forfar 9-1 is all well and good but if you do not win one game that makes or breaks your season then you're a failure in my book.

I agree that JM's success rate in crunch games was very poor. I'd have hoped for better from DI. Things will hopefully improve.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 11:31:19
QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Mar 12 2008, 11:20 AM) [snapback]417896[/snapback]
Agree with this. DI has inherited a team with too many passengers. IMO we will stay up by the skin of our teeth and when that happens, i expect to see DI get his own (and much better) squad together in the summer.
TOSH - not fact. DI maybe didn't get a couple of selections/substitutions right last night, but what were the other options? A point away from home with our current squad is a success IMO, key last night was not getting beat.
Il take 5 of whatever your on please.

What were the other options you ask?

Clearly you are suggesting there were none, and that last night's performance is the best we are to expect from our new knight in shining armour!

This is already smacking odiously of the pathetic bleating excuses of the 80% who had 'full confidence' in JM.

Irons has been appointed to save us from relegation. Today he, and we, should all be wearing big cheesy grins instead of knocking lumps out of each other.

That says everything so far as I'm concerned.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 11:37:19
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 10:53 AM) [snapback]417882[/snapback]
its 4 points out of 15 actually, but realistically 4 points out of 6. we could compete with any other team inthis division apart from the top 3, and so far we have competed with the teams outwith the top 3 we've played under Iron's.

i beg to differ, i think if youre a realist then last nights result was acceptable.

I kinda got that point about 100 posts ago!

I believe that the only realistically acceptable result last night was a victory. If Irons had told me prior to the match that he'd be happy with a draw I'd have been f*cking furious, as I imagine would have been 90% of our fans.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 11:41:24
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 12 2008, 10:55 AM) [snapback]417884[/snapback]
Correct me if I am wrong but is'nt it two decent results out of 4? Martin Clark was in charge at Dundee. In my book that makes the new management's record better than you say. The first three games they had in charge I think we all saw a bit of an improvement but last night was really poor, although much of that has to be down to the conditions.

I think Jenkins will come good and I even thought that McGuffie was one of our less bad performers last night.

Agree entirely, and then when it comes to the one that really matters we flop. I'm bitterly disappointed. If Clyde had outplayed us in a great game of football, I could have accepted that. I thought we did quite well against Hamilton, particularly in the first half, and 3-0 ultimately flattered them.

Last night we were up against pure crap and all we could do was match it. sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-12 11:44:09
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Mar 12 2008, 11:08 AM) [snapback]417890[/snapback]
Why is this allowed to be an excuse for Stevenson's poor form but not for McGuffie's? He's played what, 10 games for us now, and he's played in 3 different positions in a team that he's trying to familiarise himself with, and with players that he doesn't know all that well.

It's asking way too much of these 2 guys to single-handedly turn around our performances almost immediately. I personally feel that they have both brought something to the table, but we are most likely not going to see the best of them until they have a had a pre-season with the squad.

Stevenson came up a division. McGuffie dropped a division.

There IS a slight difference.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 11:51:20
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 11:23 AM) [snapback]417899[/snapback]
if you're basing us staying up on one result a month after he came in that we didnt even lose then maybe youre the one that is accepting relegation.

You are beginning to sound daft!

I'm basing nothing on 'ONE RESULT', and a great deal on THE RESULT against our direct competitor for the playoffs.

That is what made last night SO important AND different. If you can't accept that you're stubborn, and if you can't see it you're a clown.

mortonjag 2008-03-12 11:54:01
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 11:36 AM) [snapback]417906[/snapback]
you're comparing excuses for someone who had 3 years in the job over someone who's had less than two months. people had time to judge and base their opinions fully on JM by that time, no one knows how good Iron's will do in the long run, but he's done no worse or better than can be expected.

the fact you've already judged him as a failure and are comparing people sticking up for him to people having confidence in JM after 3 years says everything about you so far as im concerned.

..that I can honestly assess his performance last night-for that is all I have done, and last night DI was a failure, and those who disagree with that are simply making excuses!
mortonjag 2008-03-12 11:59:33 Lies, damned lies, and statistics.

If we're going to be playing those kiddies games, can I wind back to this time yesterday?

How many of us HONESTLY thought we'd fail to get three points last night?
mortonjag 2008-03-12 12:02:40
QUOTE(suda @ Mar 12 2008, 11:50 AM) [snapback]417920[/snapback]
I would rather have Clyde's keeper David Hutton, to me he's the best keeper in the league and he can't be on great terms at Clyde.

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But that's against the rules of this game--I mean I'd rather have Alex Rae, or Billy Reid, or Gordon Chisholm, or Derek McInnes, or Alan Moore!!
mortonjag 2008-03-12 12:09:16
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 12 2008, 10:34 AM) [snapback]417874[/snapback]
How could an apparently sane person with assets reportedly to the tune of some £70 million believe that a village with a population of 2,700 could maintain a viable SFL, let alone SPL club?

Gidday mortonjag,

Is there no truth to the story that he planned to move them to Carlisle before their promotion run ???

The population of Carlisle is about 100,000.

Correct ?

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I understand that Mileson was out of favour with Carlisle quite some time before he took Gretna on board, having twice snubbed the opportunity to get financially involved with them.

I posted that information on the forum during their first runaway season with Pony Tail's money, asking whom he could possibly amalgamate with, as that was clearly his only chance of long term financial stability.

Most people questioned my sanity and accused me of jealousy.

Most people were daft! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-12 12:13:01
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 11:40 AM) [snapback]417910[/snapback]
theres a difference between acceptable and being pleased.

i dont think Iron's will be happy with a draw, a lot less content than i and a lot of fans are.

the fact you seem to have based our whole battle to stay in this division around this one game scares me,
espescially since we didnt even lose it.

Ever heard of a 'six pointer'?

That was the crucial difference last night. I thought it was so bloody obvious that even a child could have understood the implications. Seemingly I was wrong.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 12:16:44
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 11:49 AM) [snapback]417918[/snapback]
Stevenson has had time to settle in, Mcguffie hasnt.

that said they have both been poor and need to offer more, there is still a chance Mcguffie might but i doubt Stevenson ever will, which is incredibly frustrating.

Stevenson was excellent against Hamilton-were you there-and then dropped!
mortonjag 2008-03-12 12:18:24
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 11:52 AM) [snapback]417922[/snapback]
you find that a lot with teams that win the league, they start well because theyre used to winning but as soon as they lose they crumble.

the one thing i feel this team havent learned yet is that they havent learned to lose yet. when we lose the players lose all confidence, even if we'd won the week before, and then it spirals out of control.

if a team like partick or QOS were to lose one week they'd put it behind them and could easily come out and win the next week.

i hope we'll get like that over time, but the only way to do that is to continue playing in the 1st division and getting used to it.

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They've had plenty of f*ckin' practice PT!!!
mortonjag 2008-03-12 12:26:55
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 11:56 AM) [snapback]417927[/snapback]
if you dont have the confidence in our players to pick up the points needed to survive in the rest of our league games then why do you expect Iron's to work miracles with them?

last night was not THE result. it was A result. nothing lost and nothing gained.

we have home games coming up against partick and livingston, those are THE results.

i must be a clown then, along with the other people who have agreed with me compared to the not one person who has agreed with you. the best you've had is someone disagreeing with both of us laugh.gif

PT I don't expect folk to agree with me-it usually takes about 75% a lot longer to grasp what's going on!
Please don't blame me for THAT too!
I'm not even sure what you've tried to say other than that last night's result was no more important than say, last Saturdays.

Well it WAS-FAR, FAR more important.

I have always believed we have enough ability in this squad to finish at least mid table, and my opinion has never changed. It is up to the manager to get the best out of EVERYBODY, and in as many games as possible. That was the area where JM failed us so badly.

mortonjag 2008-03-12 12:33:19
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 11:58 AM) [snapback]417929[/snapback]
if you were only assessing his performance of last night then you wouldnt have made the comment about it already starting to sound like the people who had ' full confidence " in JM.

you've already made up your mind on Iron's after less than 2 months in the job wether you're ready to admit it or not.

AHA-you are now doing my thinking for me as well!!!

The excuses which are being made for DI after last night's failure are pathetic and pointless-just like those that were made by the blind fools who could only bleat mindlessly-'FFS we're top of the league'.

Had the latter day JM done last night what Irons did, he would have been ridiculed.

Irons failed last night. That does not mean he will fail on Saturday. It's one game at a time in case you hadn't realised, and every failure makes the next game even more crucial.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 12:36:24 Funny old game eh. Seems not that long ago that Midge was a target for the disgruntled, and was benched by JM.

I don't think he'll stay and I wish him well at a club with a forward looking structure.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 12:40:45
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 12:19 PM) [snapback]417947[/snapback]
you must have got so far with your incredibly successful life by being so patronising.

a six pointer is only a six pointer if one team wins, i thought it so bloody obvious that someone as distinguished and successful and inspiring as you would have understood. seemingly i was wrong.

FFS have I done that again-sorry-it's those bloody argumentative weans-they upset me PT!

Next, some clown will come out with something ridiculously obvious like 'a six pointer is only a six pointer if one team wins' while arguing in the same breath that winning 'six pointers' is no more important than others. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-12 12:43:33
QUOTE(tontric @ Mar 12 2008, 12:28 PM) [snapback]417953[/snapback]
Me. I predicted a score draw and you told me to stop being so pessimistic.

That is correct-I remember very well shuddering at the prospect, and full credit to you for your perception. It seems that my faith in DI was misplaced on this occasion!
mortonjag 2008-03-12 12:46:46
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 12:31 PM) [snapback]417955[/snapback]
it was a joke, not about the appointment but about sticking up for him over his statement. i would never use something something done to change my opinion about something else.

i believe he was correct in his statement and i used my anger at that to light heartedly suggest that his appointment of Iron's had made me change my mind about that. i would never call someone a p***k seriously, certainly not for something like appointing a manager of a football club.

to be fair my anger had gone within half an hour and i was kind of happy that Iron's was here, and now im really happy he's here tongue.gif

You're really quite a sweet person at heart.

You'd LOVE the real Mortonjag too!
mortonjag 2008-03-12 12:54:57
QUOTE(para @ Mar 12 2008, 12:39 PM) [snapback]417958[/snapback]
and your point is

o yes smartarse
please quote the post mj

I beg your pardon?

I'm not sure if you're calling me a liar or not, and if you are you're just a clown. I have no need to lie about anything I've ever posted. I don't know how far back we are archived, but I'll find the post if necessary, though the onus is on the prosecution.

It would be highly amusing to quote many of the abusive comments I've had about my opinions on Mileson, JM, and Rae, but up until now I've never really felt the need.

Anyway what you've just said is rather 'Mumbo jumbo'.

Maybe you just farted on the keyboard, in which case you're excused.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 13:05:25
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 12:40 PM) [snapback]417959[/snapback]
Wow, Patronising me was excusable because i dont take any notice to what people say about me but patronising 75% of the posters on here, probably not a good move. although you'll probably tell every single one of them that theyre part of the 25% of the forum who are with you, since you have been proven as a grand master in the martial art of s***ebag tongue.gif

it was far more important than saturdays result, but only if we won or lost. the fact neither of these happened means the game might not have been played at all, leaving us still ahead of them.

we do not have enough ability to finish at least mid-table in this league. we have 2nd division goalkeepers, defenders and one striker capable of scoring goals, but only when he's in the mood.

the Squad we have is capable at surviving relegation at best, for me JM should have left for Building that squad and not purely on results in the 1st division this season.

no manager can make bad players good players, epescially with no pre-season under his belt with the players or a transfer window to make his own mark on the team.

Don't be a clot-I've pointed out their sheep headed stupidity many many times before. Stating correctly that they made complete fools of themselves is hardly patronising-indeed some of the cleverer sheep may even have been prompted to think next time before trotting closely behind their dag stained woollen leaders.


As to the second highlighted portion, I find it somewhat presumtious that you fail to state that it is merely your youthful opinion.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 13:09:52
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 12:44 PM) [snapback]417963[/snapback]
well youre getting on a bit, someone is going to need to help you with your thinking.

or maybe your past experience with JM and his supporters are confusing your logic with DI this time. both situations dont need to be the same you know. you have no proof that DI wont be an excellent manager so you cant say that excuses for last night are pathetic and pointless, you had the experience of JM for years to be able to at least have credibility with your opinions on him and his supporters.

JM would not have been ridiculed for drawing away to clyde last night, to say so is stupid.

or you could look at it as its one game at a time and another game we didnt lose, which brings us closer to safety.

Sorry PT-if you won't play by the rules, folk will spot that. Nowhere have I suggested that I'm judging DI on anything other than last night's result.

If folk like you would just have the honesty to admit he f*cked up, instead of pathologically fighting a losing battle, I could have been out for my incontinence pads by now.

I will get back to you after the Partick game. I sincerely hope he does better. Everybody makes mistakes.

WELL-ALMOST everybody! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-12 13:15:48
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 01:08 PM) [snapback]417977[/snapback]
it is patronising to suggest people showing support for a manager that none of us can have a reasonable opinion on yet is wrong.

of course its my opinion, the fact this is a public messageboard for this very use and the fact that one person already, in you has already disagreed with me shows that it is purely an opinion.

I did not suggest you were wrong to give your support to DI, as indeed I do-merely that you ARE wrong in suggesting that last night's performance is acceptable against our closest rivals for the playoffs.

Furthermore I have NEVER denied folk the right to their opinions, but bear in mind, the minute you make a statement, you leave yourself open to contradiction, and 75% of the posters who used the poll 'had total confidence in JM'. Very few of them showed much patience for those who thought otherwise, and only a handful had the decency ever to admit they'd been wrong.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 13:17:48
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 01:08 PM) [snapback]417977[/snapback]
it is patronising to suggest people showing support for a manager that none of us can have a reasonable opinion on yet is wrong.

of course its my opinion, the fact this is a public messageboard for this very use and the fact that one person already, in you has already disagreed with me shows that it is purely an opinion.

EDIT TO ADD : youth are the future of this country, you're getting to that stage of life where our opinion is more important than yours, im sorry to have to tell you sad.gif bow out gracefully old timer tongue.gif (i dont mean die, please dont die).

...God preserve us!
mortonjag 2008-03-12 13:20:15
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 12:47 PM) [snapback]417966[/snapback]
winning 6 pointers is more important than others, losing 6 pointers is more important than others.

drawing 6 pointers makes them Null and Void.

would you like to fit in my tiny car? it may look tiny and although there is lots of us in here there is plenty space for you, just watch out for that custard pie.

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mortonjag 2008-03-12 13:22:45
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 12:49 PM) [snapback]417967[/snapback]
laugh.gif i hold no grudges. i could argue for hours on one subject and then back you to the hilt on another.

im actually rather fond of you in a crazy old uncle kind of way, although the more we talk the more its getting like the crazy old uncle who makes you think its okay to touch them in places that your pee pee comes from. tongue.gif

It's perfectly OK for you to touch your mouth PT. wink.gif

Trust yer uncle Ernie.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 13:24:47
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Mar 12 2008, 12:57 PM) [snapback]417970[/snapback]
There's still the very outside chance that Partick could be drawn into it. It's unlikely and wishful thinking on my part but never say never.

I think that in McColl and the squad they have, they've got a wee start on us.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 13:29:07
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 12:53 PM) [snapback]417968[/snapback]
yet you havent judged DI yet? tongue.gif

Correct-I hope he does OK by us, but he was managing a dire SPL side, and those guys are managing good Ist division sides with the exception of Moore whom I'd have liked at Cappielow anyway.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 13:30:19
QUOTE(suda @ Mar 12 2008, 01:18 PM) [snapback]417984[/snapback]
Ah but DI was a shoogly appointment so is destined to fail.

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Shouldn't that read-so is destined to be here for four years come hell or high water?
mortonjag 2008-03-12 13:36:01
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 01:19 PM) [snapback]417985[/snapback]
you listed a list of just about every manager in the league you'd rather have than him on another thread 5 mins ago, i'd say thatd judging him on more than just last nights result.

last nights result wasnt great, but it wasnt the disaster you have made it out to be. how exactly am i fighting a losing battle? youre the only person im fighting and i havent even broken a sweat yet tongue.gif

after the partick and livingston games if we lose them you can come to me and say he f***ed up and 90% of me will agree with you, although i wont fully judge him until next season.

I'm sure you'll accuse me yet again of being patronising when I ask where you learned to count.


Davie Irons failed last night-something I expect he would admit in his heart of hearts if not openly, yet you single handedly contrive to confound that fact.

That is fighting a losing battle
mortonjag 2008-03-12 13:37:46
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 01:26 PM) [snapback]417996[/snapback]
that was possibly the creepiest thing anyone has ever said to me laugh.gif

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Actualy the kids up here love it! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-12 13:39:06
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 01:28 PM) [snapback]417999[/snapback]
i think he was impying that you are a clown along with him. by he i mean me. by me i mean I.

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mortonjag 2008-03-12 13:43:55
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 01:38 PM) [snapback]418011[/snapback]
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he said in todays tele that he was happy that we didnt lose, because we couldnt lose. which is exactly what i said, long before i saw the tele.

so thats me and Davie vs you. we could easily take you, so it is you that is fighting the losing battle.

why dont you start a poll to see who thinks last night was an absolute disaster, and we'll see who's on who's side since you seem so convinced that you are correct.

On the contrary young man, your uncle Ernie knows when to avoid silly confrontation, as in the Q & A debate.

I invite you, however, to start a poll to see who thinks last night was a resounding success!


Oh and one of Uncle Ernie's brothers taught in Port High, while another was a pupil-that was before he graduated with a 'First' from Oxford!!
mortonjag 2008-03-12 13:49:41
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Mar 12 2008, 01:08 PM) [snapback]417976[/snapback]
I'm sure I posted this on here before but a mate of mine Immac'd his downstairs area. The most memorable quote he made afterwards was "Ma burds fanny juice stung that much I had to chuck her aff"

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That would never sound correct any other way!!
mortonjag 2008-03-12 13:53:16
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Mar 12 2008, 11:58 AM) [snapback]417928[/snapback]
You don't fly with Continental! A bloody health hazard! How a plane that size is allowed to go on a transatlantic route is beyond me. At least with Iceland Air you can stretch your legs at Reykjavik.

Once I was able to take temazepam on a flight to Brazil. Best 8 hours sleep I have ever had on a plane! That was indeed the muts nuts.

Plenty of effective 'one off' hypnotics HT, but side effects and habituation prohibit use for chronic insomnia.

As you suggest, a stiff drink and a couple of jellies works a treat as a 'one off'!
mortonjag 2008-03-12 13:54:41
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 12 2008, 11:30 AM) [snapback]417902[/snapback]
I actually prefer Claymore c*** laugh.gif

OK Osprey Oxters!
mortonjag 2008-03-12 13:58:40
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Mar 12 2008, 01:31 PM) [snapback]418003[/snapback]
How exactly did the catholic church come up with these new sins? Did Jesus drop in for a natter? Was it an official order from Heaven?

I'm being serious, how can an ordinary man create and define new sins? Surely in the eyes of God that's punishable by a term in Old Nick's gaffe?

Is not the Holy Father in direct contact with God day and daily-he is surely God's messenger on earth, and I don't imagine he'd be wanting to upstage the old c*nt.

I'd imagine God's still in charge BH.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 14:03:25
QUOTE(princessTON @ Mar 12 2008, 01:51 PM) [snapback]418020[/snapback]
It says in the paper he will still live in Germany, fly over on the Friday, play on the Saturday, then fly home. unsure.gif

Sounds an ideal recipe for bonding with his team mates!
mortonjag 2008-03-12 14:09:54
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 12 2008, 02:02 PM) [snapback]418025[/snapback]
Should be n interesting evening , to see how deluded Dougie is to the realities of the position we are in due to his stubborness sad.gif

...'and following recent suggestions by Gordon.... erm.... Blair, regarding...erm... important people, I propose that all Morton fans should swear allegiance to...erm.... I propose a toast to ME...erm ...Cappie the Cat..erm........ Crawford-give me back my notes'... dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-12 14:46:39
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 02:21 PM) [snapback]418029[/snapback]
i think the technical term is s***ebag tongue.gif

i have no idea how to start a poll, and i think if i ever did learn then i would die a little inside.

how long ago did he teach in the port high?

closest i ever got to that was being offered a job to drive First buses is Oxford City Centre.

About twenty years but left there quite a while back.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 14:47:39
QUOTE(nani @ Mar 12 2008, 02:31 PM) [snapback]418033[/snapback]
What a pair of sweetie wives....

Two sweetie wives and a Nanny = three old ladies!
mortonjag 2008-03-12 14:57:59
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 02:48 PM) [snapback]418039[/snapback]
what are you talking about? its all very well getting a lift but expecting to beat two of the top three teams is never going to happen no matter if a new manager comes in or not.

we played well against St Johnstone and Lost, played well for the first half an hour against Hamilton and lost, Won against Stirling and drew away to clyde.

if thats not a lift from 7 defeats in a row, and 6 home defeats in a row then i dont know what is.

We played well against St Johnstone and might have snatched a draw

We played well against Stirling and took our chances

We played well against Hamilton, though we faded in the second half

Last night we played Clyde in a game that should have been ours for the taking- a game we desperately needed to win-and we played extremely uninspired stuff.

I think Spot Ton's a bit harsh over the piece but last night DI was a failure.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 15:16:31
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 01:38 PM) [snapback]418011[/snapback]
port high sad.gif

he said in todays tele that he was happy that we didnt lose, because we couldnt lose. which is exactly what i said, long before i saw the tele.

so thats me and Davie vs you. we could easily take you, so it is you that is fighting the losing battle.

why dont you start a poll to see who thinks last night was an absolute disaster, and we'll see who's on who's side since you seem so convinced that you are correct.

Well he would-wouldn't he!

Here's what he said in YESTERDAY'S Tilly.....


And Irons said: “We know we need to win, and we’re quietly confident.

“The players need to be brave on the ball, not hide and let the pressure pot situation get to them. They need to feel they can express themselves.



'We know we need to win' and he didn't-he failed in his task, and is naturally relieved it wasn't even worse.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 15:19:23
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 12 2008, 03:16 PM) [snapback]418045[/snapback]
Better than both of our diddies.

That is unkind.

Better than either mind you.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 15:22:40
QUOTE(giz @ Mar 12 2008, 03:20 PM) [snapback]418050[/snapback]
McGurn was told he was being dropped as he caused the penalty last week and in effect the game....this came from his family last night

Oh well-he'll be back in on Saturday since Irons has openly blamed Robinson for last night's defeat!
mortonjag 2008-03-12 15:24:40
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 12 2008, 03:22 PM) [snapback]418054[/snapback]
Robinson certainly takes a share of the blame however he was not the sole culprit in what was a calamitous sequence of events from failing to deal with the through ball, cannoning a clearance off their player then making an arse of saving the shot. I think the whole McGurn v Robinson debate is tiresome - in my mind they are both as culpable as each other and both have cost us points this season. However this pales into insignificance when compared with the number of errors and subsequent games lost by the two clowns playing in front of them at centre half.

Our goalscoring record is equally abysmal if not worse!
mortonjag 2008-03-12 15:33:14
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Mar 12 2008, 03:22 PM) [snapback]418052[/snapback]
Barfly in Glasgow after they supported The Twang last October. I would post it on here but then Mortonjag would know what I look like and hunt me down for sport.

I'd never imagined you as a naked seven year old boy BH.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 15:37:48
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 12 2008, 03:31 PM) [snapback]418060[/snapback]

Interesting comment re. Motherwell. If they can't play there, what happens?

Basically they are F*CKED.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 15:56:53
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Mar 12 2008, 03:50 PM) [snapback]418064[/snapback]
Yup! if he concentrated more on actually looking and acting like a goal keeper and not showing off and acting like a D*** in front o fans wi his c***y wee atitude he might start to get somewhere...personally cannae stand him... liability of a guy.....

The poor little ginger one seems to have few friends!
mortonjag 2008-03-12 16:11:12
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Mar 12 2008, 04:07 PM) [snapback]418068[/snapback]
Face facts he's off. Think he is probably playing so well due to him being under no pressure and buzzing about a fresh challenge as he is guaranteed first div football with a club that are far better than us at the min. The good thing is that he is giving 100% every game like a pro should and he will be one of the last to get any blame for the buffoonery this season, and Mr Chairman should hang his head for messing the lad about and offering Davie sick note a 100 year deal.

WTF is Davie sick note?
mortonjag 2008-03-12 16:12:48
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 12 2008, 04:07 PM) [snapback]418069[/snapback]
Draw. Only felt like a defeat

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oops
mortonjag 2008-03-12 16:21:50
QUOTE(aimlesswanderer @ Mar 12 2008, 04:08 PM) [snapback]418070[/snapback]
Chick Young is the latest in the long line of sycophant's to claim that Brooks has done nothing wrong:

Chick's A Tit

I haven't had the chance to ask him, but I suspect that Brooks would do it all over again.


That Pishley c*nt is more transparent than the pond he inhabits-what a repulsive little turd.

If you're that keen to ask him-go and do it you wannabe weasel-hopefully he'll tell you to go and f*ck yourself.

You don't give a toss about Gretna, let alone Mileson, but when everybody else is correctly putting the boot in, you'll happily spout utter pish just for the publicity.

Inbred Hunskunk mutant creep.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 16:27:44
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 12 2008, 04:23 PM) [snapback]418082[/snapback]
Millionaire Gretna owner Brooks Mileson has been released from Newcastle General Hospital.

Club officials expect him to make a full recovery from an illness which has been confirmed as a brain infection.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/south_...and/7258453.stm

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Perhaps Mileson sees Gretna in a different light now that he is free of his brain infection.

No mention of missing hands or even fingers.

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I just have this horrible feeling that the 'brain infection' may be complicated by selective amnesia.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 16:30:39
QUOTE(aimlesswanderer @ Mar 12 2008, 04:27 PM) [snapback]418086[/snapback]
However much pleasure Brooks gave Gretna he is ultimately responsible for their ruin. Unsurprisingly Chick neglects to mention that at any stage.

Not nearly as much as the llamas gave Chick.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 16:36:25
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 12 2008, 04:33 PM) [snapback]418091[/snapback]
would the "brain infection" have caused permanent damage ?

Could the village have a new idiot ?

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It would need to have been some brain infection to render him as neuronally impoverished as Charles Hunskunk Young!
mortonjag 2008-03-12 17:27:13
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 12 2008, 05:21 PM) [snapback]418112[/snapback]
Do you mean last Saturday? Against Hamilton? That was one of his best performances for ages? Are you on drugs? Was I on drugs?

Well Mr McArthur, I am certainly not, and in the short time Jamie played -YES-against Hamilton he looked better, keener, and hungrier than he has for ages. Maybe you are on drugs, maybe you're blind, maybe you're an inveterate cynic.

Possibly you're all three.
mortonjag 2008-03-12 17:35:03
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Feb 26 2008, 09:25 PM) [snapback]411159[/snapback]
I'm selling my body by the hour, £30 and I'm all yours tongue.gif

When will you be dead?
mortonjag 2008-03-13 06:34:32
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 10 2008, 09:12 PM) [snapback]416937[/snapback]
You have a PM

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mortonjag 2008-03-13 06:48:02
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 12 2008, 06:57 PM) [snapback]418152[/snapback]
Cider went up 3p. Whisky went up by a whopping 55p ! ohmy.gif

Must be targeting the binge drinking neds who are stoating about town centre's on 15 year old malt whisky blink.gif

Will England keep a disproportionate amount of this Scottish generated income Spurtle?
mortonjag 2008-03-13 06:50:37
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 12 2008, 06:59 PM) [snapback]418156[/snapback]
I remember Strongbow being 45p a can...was 66p last time. Furking shambles this
*burps and falls over*

Glasgow University Union in mid sixties-Cider 9d a pint.

That's about 4p.

Can it be that it was all so simple then?
mortonjag 2008-03-13 06:52:29
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 12 2008, 10:05 PM) [snapback]418282[/snapback]
Go to Stockholm, Oslo or Toronto on a Friday night and I'll bet you won't see so many scenes like you do in Glasgow or Newcastle. Here it seems that the whole fecking city is steaming and looking for a square go, after a puke and a piss in a doorway that is. Booze is too cheap and too freely available, ask the polis, ambulance and casualty staff who have to clean up the mess every weekend.

More spanking of little pink botties reqired DE.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 06:57:04
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 12 2008, 08:55 PM) [snapback]418214[/snapback]
now there is a debate..... its lunchtime but some call that dinnertime tongue.gif

Greenock in mid forties.

Breakfast


Dinner


Tea


But in other areas of the country it was different. My uncle worked as a ploughman, and always came in for his 'dinner' after a hard day's graft.

I never heard the term 'lunch' used until I went to secondary school-guess where-PISHLEY-where they had ever so la de dah School 'Lunches', for which you were supposed to buy 'dinner tickets' but instead spent the money in the bookies at lunchtime.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 06:58:32
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 12 2008, 09:02 PM) [snapback]418226[/snapback]
The phrase is "breakfast, lunch and dinner" not "breakfast, dinner, tea".

There's no discussion here. huh.gif

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Things have changed then!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 07:00:19
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Mar 12 2008, 09:10 PM) [snapback]418235[/snapback]
If ever a sentence was ambiguous it's that one.

Not really WDE-they just forgot to add 'by those who eat lunch at dinner time'!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 07:02:12
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 12 2008, 09:47 PM) [snapback]418261[/snapback]
Have you? I've not.

Presumably because they are reasonable.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 07:07:25 Life means absolutely F*CK ALL

What is the meaning of a brick?
mortonjag 2008-03-13 07:09:56
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 13 2008, 01:21 AM) [snapback]418391[/snapback]
At the request of a ladyfriend of mine I used that mad immac that you then just rinse off with the showerhead on my c*** and balls. Never hurt too much but, once the bush was gone, I realised how f***ing ugly it is down there. Itched like a b*****d growing back in too.

Never again. (Although it does make it look bigger)

It says on the tube to avoid getting it in your eyes.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 07:15:05 It used to be a fairly straightforward DIY job, and replacements for the more common motors are readily available at any decent 'scrappy'.

As suggested, accessibility may be the biggest deterrent to DIY.

Electric motors are subject to natural wear and tear, and the warranties are often invalid-check small print!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 07:21:23
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Mar 12 2008, 11:52 PM) [snapback]418346[/snapback]

It would be easy to make sarcastic comments.

Nice to see them back in football, and I hope they do well.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 07:26:37
QUOTE(ton1901 @ Mar 12 2008, 06:47 PM) [snapback]418141[/snapback]
jamie was awful when he came on, seen him play much better games. his set pieces were pish, barely made a pass and he couldn't keep the ball for 2 secs.

That is either a matter of opinion or pure sh*te.

I'll go for the latter.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 07:28:27
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Mar 12 2008, 09:24 PM) [snapback]418253[/snapback]
I was shocked Jamie never started last night. He played more accurate passes in the short time he had on the field than the rest of his team mates combined against Accies.
I was screaming for that change last night. Seems the obvious one for Saturday as I can't stomach watching another half-arsed "performance" from McGuffie. dry.gif

Who'd be a football manager eh. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-13 07:30:28
QUOTE(Reggio_Emilia_Ton_Army @ Mar 12 2008, 10:10 PM) [snapback]418291[/snapback]
just a shame I couldn't see the match.
1 point is better than lose!
1 bottle of lambrusco is better than water

Three bottles of Lambrusco are MUCH better than water!

One bottle of Brasso is better than three bottles of Lambrusco!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 07:36:34
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 12 2008, 11:11 PM) [snapback]418331[/snapback]
You missed out a full stop.

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He lives by different rules from the rest!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 07:48:58 Unless some utterly misguided fool makes a personal donation (where are you ya baldy skunk), Gretna will be oot the game just after midday.


Everybody knows what's coming-and no comfort to guys like Alibi.

I can't believe that failed abortion Young was coming out with 'I bet Brooks would do it all over again'.

Mileson and Young-two of a kind.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 07:55:07
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Mar 13 2008, 02:54 AM) [snapback]418401[/snapback]
I DID think that when we signed Jenkins and McGuffie.

However, what I've witnessed since is a midfield devoid of any invention, lacking bite and without any obvious cohesion or understanding.

Looks good on paper but has looked s***e on the park, thus far.

What should have happened has failed to materialise.

Very puzzling when Irons knows Jenkins/McGuffie so well. It will probably need more time, but we ain't got much left.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 07:57:10
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Mar 13 2008, 04:31 AM) [snapback]418406[/snapback]
I know you won't agree but I think we already have that man in Iain Russell.

Stevenson could be the man to create the chances for him if only McInallyIrons would give him 90 mins.

McInally/Irons/ our new manager for the promotion campaign!!!!!

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mortonjag 2008-03-13 07:59:35
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Mar 13 2008, 05:37 AM) [snapback]418409[/snapback]
Hmm. I want Iain to do well, but he's awfully lightweight and I'm concerned about his heart for the battle to stay up. To use technical parlance, he seems to sh1te out of 50/50s constantly, perhaps even challenges where he has a better chance than the defender.

We need a brave striker, we need everyone to be brave.

precisely the accusation whch was levelled at Midge time after time after time, a season or so back.

FFS Donga-I can't remember big Andy venturing near a tackle in his whole time at cappielow! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-13 08:08:32
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 13 2008, 06:40 AM) [snapback]418411[/snapback]
He was an incredibly wealthy man when he came to Gretna," said chairman Ron MacGregor yesterday. "I think that has diminished a bit, but we are not privy to the details. I think there may have been a dip there.

"This is perhaps the question we can only guess at at this moment," he continued. "Whether he will come through this illness and say, 'hey, wait a moment. I don't want to finish on this note with Gretna'. All I can say is Brooks' passion for Gretna has been amazing over the years. I can't think he won't be interested in what we are doing in the future, but at the moment his recovery is the priority.

"Not long ago he celebrated his 60th birthday," added MacGregor. "There was every expectation he would continue steering the club. He is an experienced financier and accountant by profession. We trusted his judgment regarding the financial affairs of the club."
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http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/sport/Drea...r-as.3862972.jp

I await Alibi's opinion on the above.

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Hopefully he is the only Mr MacGregor who can make such ludicrously contradictory statements!


One thing he has definitely got spot on-NOBODY is privy to Mileson's personal stash except Pony Tail and the Daily Llama.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 08:37:04
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 13 2008, 08:25 AM) [snapback]418444[/snapback]
i understand the rules. f*** along now, you dullard.

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Well you would, wouldn't you!


HIPPIE.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 08:38:23
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 13 2008, 07:40 AM) [snapback]418432[/snapback]
Ask Michel Faucault, he'll provide you with 500 pages of an answer.

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mortonjag 2008-03-13 08:40:31
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 13 2008, 07:45 AM) [snapback]418433[/snapback]
Absolutely. I hate reasonable people.

In direct contradiction to the laws of magnetism.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 08:42:06
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 13 2008, 07:34 AM) [snapback]418430[/snapback]
75% of what you pay for a bottle of Scotch Whisky goes on Tax. I don't think Scotland see's anything near 75% of it back.

So they're stealing our MUNNY?
mortonjag 2008-03-13 08:44:13
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 13 2008, 08:21 AM) [snapback]418443[/snapback]
No, as per usual certain posters go to extreme lengths to try and win an argument.

I was trying to point out spending hit £3.25bns per annum this year is just a waste of taxpayers money that could be better spent elsewhere like the NHS for instance.

That's an 94% increase on last year spent on fighting a war with a country that really was no threat to us.

Trying to compare the illegal war in Iraq with WWII is ludicrous.

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mortonjag 2008-03-13 08:46:25
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 13 2008, 08:39 AM) [snapback]418448[/snapback]
Luckily it didn't go in ANY of my three eyes wink.gif

I was puzzled-did it actually grow, or did it just look bigger.

There again, was it both?
mortonjag 2008-03-13 08:52:45
QUOTE(C B @ Mar 13 2008, 08:34 AM) [snapback]418445[/snapback]
It was Nelson at Brechin but he's part time and older than Mortonjag !

I'd take Hutton in a heartbeat and if Clyde get relegated it just may happen !

If only!!!


Craig was only three when I joined a practice in his home town. We had Nelsons on our list-goodness I may have stuck a needle in his little pink bottie once upon a time!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 08:56:25
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Mar 13 2008, 08:53 AM) [snapback]418457[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(C B @ Mar 13 2008, 08:34 AM) [snapback]418445[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->It was Nelson at Brechin but he's part time and older than Mortonjag !

I'd take Hutton in a heartbeat and if Clyde get relegated it just may happen !
NO!!!!!!!!

What is it with this club signing small keepers? I want a big guy, at least 6 foot 3, who will come and take crosses and command his area. Bryn Halliwell would be ideal.

Cheat and liar.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 08:59:59
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 13 2008, 08:53 AM) [snapback]418458[/snapback]
Pay no attention to him, or yon other Foucault and his pendulum. Too bloody complicated by half. Shakespeare probably put it better, like ' All the world's a stage...... and we are just actors...... in a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing'

I prefer Shoogly's typically simple take


LIFE IS LIFE NA NA....NA NA NA
mortonjag 2008-03-13 09:03:18
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Mar 13 2008, 08:53 AM) [snapback]418459[/snapback]
Well to be honest the old chest hairs just looked bad. When shaved, looks clean and tidy and no mess.
Keeping the others in check just seems fair to me. We expect our good ladies (well most of them unless you have a fetish for hirsute fuds) to keep themselves tidy - underarms, legs, front bottom etc - so stinks of double standards that they would somehow prefer us to be like a privet hedge whilst we're asking them to say their prayers to the bald lad.

Again, it's all personal choice I suppose. Some girls prefer to remain au naturale and others go for the shaved look. Each to their own. But expecting it to be clean and half ways tidy seems fair - so fair play is good sport - needs to work both ways.

TonInDublin

ps although the first time I saw a girl with a full on Ferdinand (bald cúnt with wavy lips) it was kinda off putting.
Truth be told I've never enjoyed a clabby doo the same way since.

Are not fuds, by definition, hirsute?
mortonjag 2008-03-13 09:11:15
QUOTE(aimlesswanderer @ Mar 13 2008, 08:59 AM) [snapback]418461[/snapback]
Why does everyone in the media accept the fact that Brooks seems to have severed all ties with Gretna because he's recovering from an illness? He is solely responsible for the position they find themselves in, and it doesn't look as though he's going to bail them out of the the situation he created when they are hours from extincition, but I don't recall reading a critical word against him.

They're probably thinking the same as us but cautious about publishing potential libel.

I've taken a fairly active interest in the Gretna saga, and am astonished that it's only now emerging that Mileson's a qualified accountant.

That blows any theories about a poor muddle headed and misguided philanthropist right out of the water.

He could easily have taken steps to decline the SPL place, instead of passing around the 'begging bowl' for a pitch to play on. He could have let them down gently while retaining some respect.

Mileson's no fool, but he made an incredibly foolish blunder, and it seems he's just walked away from Gretna in the hope that it will become a bad dream.

For many-that's exactly what's happened.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 09:18:00
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Mar 13 2008, 09:09 AM) [snapback]418467[/snapback]
Not necessarily MJ, see my PS regarding the "rio".

TonInDublin

I understood that, but a bald c*nt is a bald c*nt, be it shaven, or naturally alopecic.

A fud, on the other hand is a big hairy c*nt!

I think!

mortonjag 2008-03-13 09:21:02
He's five foot two and he's six foot four
He fights with missiles and with spears
He's all of 31 and he's only 17
He's been a soldier for a thousand years

He's a Catholic, a Hindu, an atheist and a Jane
A Buddhist, a Baptist and a Jew
And he knows he shouldn't kill and he knows he always will
Kill you for me, my friends, and me for you

He's fighting for Canada, he's fighting for France
He's fighting for the USA
and he's fighting for the Russians and he's fighting for Japan
And he thinks he'll put an end to war this way

He's fighting for democracy, he's fighting for the Reds
He's fighting for the good of all
He's the one who must decide who's to live and who's to die
And he never reads the writing on the wall

He's the universal soldier and he is really is to blame
His orders come from far away no more
They come from him and you and me and brothers, can't you see
This is not the way to put an end to war
mortonjag 2008-03-13 09:23:45
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 13 2008, 09:20 AM) [snapback]418470[/snapback]
Right, this might sound weird, but my pubes are straight and they cover up the base of my c***. So when they're all gone you get a good couple of inches there that aren't present when covered in long black hairs.

I disbelieve you-they must be slightly kinky to be pubes!

That's an anatomical/genetic fact.

Show me a straight pube and I'll show you an honest politician.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 09:26:16
QUOTE(Torro @ Mar 13 2008, 09:24 AM) [snapback]418475[/snapback]
very good mortonjag !! - tea over the keyboard

Cocoa to be precise! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-13 09:27:53
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 13 2008, 09:25 AM) [snapback]418476[/snapback]
They're slightly wavy at best. Long and straight(ish).

Just like David Walliams.

laugh.gif

Long and curlies are still pubes!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 09:31:02
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 13 2008, 09:28 AM) [snapback]418479[/snapback]
The only curly hairs I get are on my arse and face.

(make your own jokes about the lack of difference on those two features)

Even my chest hair is straight.

How long is it?
mortonjag 2008-03-13 09:32:53
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 13 2008, 09:30 AM) [snapback]418481[/snapback]
MJ remembers Buffy Sainte-Marie singing about a universal truth.

Preferred Donovan TBH!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 09:38:29
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 13 2008, 09:33 AM) [snapback]418484[/snapback]
between an inch and two inches

(once again.. we're talking about chest hair here before the jokes come in happy.gif )

Have you ever met a woman with chest hair?
mortonjag 2008-03-13 09:40:13
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 13 2008, 09:38 AM) [snapback]418488[/snapback]
Aye, but Donovan didn't write it, Buffy did.

...and Donovan droned it! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-13 09:41:31
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 13 2008, 09:39 AM) [snapback]418490[/snapback]
A fascist is a fascist whether their skin is white or brown.
I read in The Independent yesterday that Steve Fullerton (last surviving Scot from the British Battalion of The International Brigades) died recently. He was extrememly brave man and I doubt whether he would have come away with anything so nonsensical as 'fighting Franco? Complete waste of money.' You would probably call him an imperialist!!
People these days are so privileged and safe that they have a completely skewed relativist take on what is right and wrong.

Which are immutable and absolute?
mortonjag 2008-03-13 09:42:54
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 13 2008, 09:39 AM) [snapback]418489[/snapback]
Nope. One of my grans pals had about a dozen long grey hairs on her chin tho'.

Indeed, old ladies are prone to developing facial hair and deep voices.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 10:13:24
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 13 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]418497[/snapback]
Wikipedia saving me a trip to the doctor there as MortonJag was freaking me out.

Wikipedia is wrong and not for the first time. It is possible to have almost straight pubes, but they are never completely straight throughout the whole length of the hair shaft.

I picked up this wee snippet to save me delving through my medical tomes.


Straight hair is genetically caused by the shape of hair follicles. Round follicles produce straight hair. Oval or ovoid follicles grow curly hair.
Unless the individual uses straightener or very powerful bug killers on his or her privates, pubic hair is never straight. All pubic hair is curly. It must be curly to perform its survival function for naked humans.

Obviously, we no longer need pubic hair the way we did 12 thousand years ago, but it is still there as a vestigial remnant of our recent evolution.

If a person has straight pubic hair, I would be suspicious that he or she recently had an infection of some type and used poweful chemicals to treat it. Use caution.


wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-13 10:18:56
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Mar 13 2008, 10:17 AM) [snapback]418507[/snapback]
I want to apologise for being racist towards people who live in the westend and to people whoo have their dinner late afternoon, and also for threatening to blow everyone up. I just think I am a wee hardman after a few strongbow supers. Apologies

No more liquid lunches dinners for you my boy!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 10:22:33
QUOTE(axeman @ Mar 13 2008, 09:49 AM) [snapback]418496[/snapback]
Where do you think his son came from ? He's a weird looking boy that one, definitely a hint of llama there. laugh.gif

camel to be precise, and he'll take the hump at your comments.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 10:27:36
QUOTE(MrX @ Mar 13 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]418498[/snapback]
I don't want to state the obvious or be a complete doom monger, but think the two points dropped at Clyde on Tuesday was an extremely massive blow to our survival hopes.

I think we have a considerably harder run in than either Livi or Clyde, and actually think we have a better chance of catching Livi than finishing above Clyde. The fact that Clyde have Stirling twice to play and Livi have Stirling once makes me mucho worried. Especially, with Clyde at home to them last game of the season and us strugglin to score goals/points.

For me the two big games for us are Morton v Livi and Clyde v Livi, anyone else agree or am I just talking baws! Obviously, every Ton game is a biggie, but I really think Livi are the team to catch as Clyde's run in looks far easier than ours.

It must surely have been obvious to all that nothing short of three points was satisfactory.

I support DI/DC, but will continue to mark their score card a game at a time.

Tuesday night was a poor, poor offering from the guys Shoogly assured us are going to be around for a long time to come.

If we don't beat Partick on Saturday, they'd possibly be as well packing their bags.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 10:29:37
QUOTE(axeman @ Mar 13 2008, 10:25 AM) [snapback]418515[/snapback]
He'll get his just deserts as well then wink.gif

..probably just go running back to his Mummy.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 10:32:21
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Mar 13 2008, 10:29 AM) [snapback]418519[/snapback]
a further article on Poles going home is on the BBC this morning

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7282923.stm

Soaring pay lures Poles back home


or

POLISH OFF!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 10:33:50
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Mar 13 2008, 10:26 AM) [snapback]418516[/snapback]
What if I eat breakfast at tea time? Is it then tea or is it still breakfast?

You'll be f*ckin' Hank all day!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 10:36:55
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 13 2008, 10:25 AM) [snapback]418514[/snapback]
Haha... looks like I am going to the docs after all smile.gif

laugh.gif

To qualify as straight, the unplucked pube must lie in a perfectly straight line of its own accord-even the tinsiest hint of a little kink disqualifies it.

Entirely straight pubes are a genetic impossibility.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 10:39:05
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Mar 13 2008, 10:20 AM) [snapback]418510[/snapback]
Very deep Capuan. I see things slightly differently though. To me, the meaning of life is to attempt to get yer hole as much as possible before ye get so old ye cannae hit a stiffy.

Freud would have agreed, but I've always felt that food comes before fud.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 10:41:15
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 13 2008, 10:38 AM) [snapback]418528[/snapback]
Well they don't look like they've been GHD'd. They're KINDA wavy. I'd classify them as straight before wavy tho'.

I'm gonna need to pluck one and scan it now.

Exactly!!

A miss is as good as a Mrs! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-13 10:43:48 I'm back to thinking we should chuck on any 11 who'll give 100% for 90 minutes.

I thought we'd got better-hopefully Tuesday was just a wee hiccup!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 11:00:09
QUOTE(Ar1tch1e @ Mar 13 2008, 10:55 AM) [snapback]418535[/snapback]
good luck to them both but sad really about the bitterness.

a majority of the fans who "chased them out of Cappielow" stuck up for them in the early days.
up at peterhead springs to mind.down at stranraer as well.
had enough time,was time to go.so move on.

thought he left with dignity,now he comes out with this rubbish......

What did he ACTUALLY say?
mortonjag 2008-03-13 11:02:52
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 13 2008, 10:57 AM) [snapback]418536[/snapback]
One of those ones where you remember exactly where you were when you first heard.

Still can't comprehend it even after all these years.

Mental illness is impossible to comprehend, as is unadulterated evil.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 11:04:42
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 13 2008, 11:01 AM) [snapback]418538[/snapback]
Who gives a f***. He's gone now biggrin.gif

I DO!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 11:23:12
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Mar 13 2008, 11:17 AM) [snapback]418541[/snapback]
Daily Record site

He didn't say anything, the person that wrote the article said that he left due to a fall out with the club's supporters. McInally isn't even quoted in the article, it's Martin Clark.

Just a last chance for some people to get their petty digs in dry.gif

Indeed-it's only fair that he's not misquoted.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 15:09:43
QUOTE(midTONs @ Mar 13 2008, 01:22 PM) [snapback]418581[/snapback]
A local business has stepped in at the 11th hour and handed them a life line.

Breaking News - Gretna's Saviours.

YOU
JOBBY



I just woke out of a lovely wee snooze, and took that hook, line,and sinker!!!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 15:11:40
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Mar 13 2008, 01:48 PM) [snapback]418599[/snapback]
superb...brightened an otherwise crap day..........

Think ive got a broken leg.....doctors unsure...wait to friday they said on tuesday...if not better and swelling not gone then come back

EH!!!

Can they not x-ray it at the airport? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-13 15:15:33
QUOTE(McCauley87 @ Mar 13 2008, 12:15 PM) [snapback]418561[/snapback]
You're a bit early, according to Sky Sports News there is a potential investor looking at the finances today sad.gif

Aye, he drives an Aston Martin too! mad.gif mad.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-13 15:19:29
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Mar 13 2008, 12:17 PM) [snapback]418563[/snapback]
A lot of peole seem to forget we were in a similar position not long ago , A community is about to lose a football club , ot something to be celebrated

Hopefully they can get put back to Div 3 and start from Scratch or back to unibond maybe ? They had no place above the 2nd division

Don't worry-they'll be fine!



God sees the little sparrow fall,
It meets His tender view;
If God so loves the little birds,
I know He loves me, too.

Refrain

He loves me, too, He loves me, too,
I know He loves me, too;
Because He loves the little things,
I know He loves me, too.

He paints the lily of the field,
Perfumes each lily bell;
If He so loves the little flow’rs,
I know He loves me well.

Refrain

God made the little birds and flow’rs,
And all things large and small;
He’ll not forget his little ones,
I know He loves them all.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 15:21:13
QUOTE(aimlesswanderer @ Mar 13 2008, 01:20 PM) [snapback]418580[/snapback]
Were their fag-ends and llama hairs found at the scene of the crime?

The llamas are strictly non smoking.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 15:29:07
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 13 2008, 01:22 PM) [snapback]418582[/snapback]
Before MortonJag screams "I KNEW IT" I got a tribunal against my old work coming up. Date's got switched about constantly and, tied in with getting stuff sorted for the move to Jersey, I left it too late to get a solicitor to represent me. So I'm gonna be all Perry Mason and s***. I intend, if possible, to say "J'accuse!" and "The truth? You can't handle the truth!"

Beyond that I aint got a scooby what to do. I've been told to refer to the head honcho as Mr/Madam Chairman/woman as it's the correct terminology for this kinda case and, in general, just be polite, dress well and don't do stupid things like shout "The truth? You can't handle the truth!"

Anyone in here got a history in law type shenangins gimme any tips?

Just go to jail and be done with it!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 15:33:06
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 13 2008, 01:35 PM) [snapback]418593[/snapback]
Mick pm me your house number and I'll get my dad to phone you tonight. He is a welfare rights officer and deals with tribunals all the time. He will be able to fill you in on what you need to know.

laugh.gif

I'm sure your old man's excellent at screwing the last penny off the state for his sometimes deserving clients Puggs, but Soxy boy's at it.

All this crap about Jersey, and now he's takin' his ex employer to a tribunal, all on his lonesome! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

They're just about to bang him up.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 15:34:41
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Mar 13 2008, 03:07 PM) [snapback]418651[/snapback]
Just seen the funniest "choke on tv moment" ever......

Had to cut the news off after she claimed she couldnt continue....30 seconds of painful coughing and shuffling thne blanked out......

Funny as feck.!

Is she dead?
mortonjag 2008-03-13 15:36:40
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 13 2008, 01:04 PM) [snapback]418573[/snapback]
Are we the only one's in the universe ? Or are there beings on other planets ?

Aye Spurtle-have ye no heard-Bawheid's jist invaded Inglind.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 15:41:17
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 13 2008, 03:35 PM) [snapback]418678[/snapback]
Against the limited company maybe not - however there appears to be a lot of evidence that the club has been trading while insolvent. The bounced cheque that I was given in November is evidence to back that up. Under those circumstances I understand that the directors of the club (who include Brookes Mileson, Ron McGregor adn, I think, Ron McGregor's wife) become personally liable for debts. Maybe one of you accountants will clarify that. I have spoken to the administrators and made them aware of my concerns, pointed them in the direction of certain other firms they should have a look at, and suggested to them that writing a cheque without funds is fraud 9which they agreed was the case).

The rules on administration and bankruptcy etc are crazy - an invitation to people to run up debts with no intention of paying them. Gretna should have gone amateur as soon as the money tree was cut down, not struggled on burning money that wasn't even theirs to burn.

If they can't fulfil Saturday's game, the SPL should expel them forthwith. Oh, and any income from the Celtic game if it went ahead should be frozen.

I just have this dreadful premonition that old Brooksy's about to have a relapse! tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-13 15:44:57
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 13 2008, 03:23 PM) [snapback]418671[/snapback]
Ernie as a long time critic off the previous management team , not just tactically but in terms of quality of players and the glut of midfield players .

We should know that there is too many weak links in that squad and not enough or any options at the weakest points .

Irons can get them moving the ball about quicker which will help longterm as a team but individually some make too many basic errors to play at this level .

At this stage of the league everyone is fighting for something we have no divine right to think we are the only ones in that situation .

I admit we are a better side than Clyde , and they took full advantage of the mistake and weather conditions .
It could have been far worse if Clyde had taken full points .

Considering we were in freefall , confidence and belief must have been rock bottom there won't be a quick fix .

As I said Chris-one game at a time-if we avoid the drop, they have the chance to build.

If they don't they are a failure.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 15:48:28
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Mar 13 2008, 03:08 PM) [snapback]418652[/snapback]
Is mortonjag still spouting?
All I can see is this...

Will some kind soul explain to that clown that he's hit his little huff button?
mortonjag 2008-03-13 15:51:28
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Mar 13 2008, 03:04 PM) [snapback]418648[/snapback]
With Gretna about to go down the swannee, I doubt the SFL will want to end up having to entice two clubs to join at the end of this season.

Best of luck to both - guess our crowd will be down on Saturday owing to the fanny contingent of our support going to watch the Shire and indulge in their favourite pastime of yelling at McInally. tongue.gif

Do enjoy!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 15:56:56
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Mar 13 2008, 11:35 AM) [snapback]418549[/snapback]
Shows how people see things differently wink.gif

He never hides, always looks for the ball and can at times drive well with the ball from deep, one such run led to the Jenkins shot that was headed off the line in the first half. As I said in the MotM thread, his quality isn't always great but he never hides. Guff needs dropped as well, he's not doing enough in games and needs a boot up the arse, so hopefully a short spell on the bench will do this.

Scotty is a 'grinding out results' man. It looks like we're going to need as many as possible for the next week or few.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 16:01:35
QUOTE(Edinton @ Mar 13 2008, 03:48 PM) [snapback]418685[/snapback]

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


Obviously a botched attempt at burning evidence.

How are the mighty fallen-I'm just waiting to see Deuchar's boots on E-Bay for 50p
mortonjag 2008-03-13 16:06:07 Well!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 16:09:08
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 13 2008, 04:05 PM) [snapback]418697[/snapback]
Ah wish you were on another planet..............or maybe you are ohmy.gif

Nope-I'm on what bawheid woud pronounce 'URF'.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 16:11:00
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Mar 13 2008, 04:09 PM) [snapback]418705[/snapback]
Or the laws of electrostatics.

Which governs BH's behaviour with Hank.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 16:14:24
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Mar 13 2008, 04:12 PM) [snapback]418709[/snapback]
Surely that's sexually charged rather than electrically charged?

I was merely alluding to the battery element.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 17:25:54 Not good news-every little helps.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 17:32:27
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Mar 13 2008, 05:00 PM) [snapback]418720[/snapback]
Small article from today's Tele

Roger Graham has got it spot on here. Now compare this article to the some of the idiotic nonsense written by Jim Traynor or Hugh Keevins.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Looks like somebody was listening to old 'Jag' all along.

Never saw it in the Tilly-mind!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 17:37:01
QUOTE(Marc @ Mar 13 2008, 04:11 PM) [snapback]418708[/snapback]
Where is the option for Absolutely ?

I hope you're not suggesting that the result of this poll will be inaccurate! mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-13 17:54:14
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 13 2008, 05:44 PM) [snapback]418728[/snapback]
Odds for East Stirling to finish bottom: 1-2
Odds for a "can't fault the effort from the lads" quote in Sunday's paper: 1-5 tongue.gif
East stirling have a wee (wee) bit of money to spend, so it'll be interesting to see how they change the squad without the influence of Rae.
I'd expect a wee short term boost but nothing much long term.

I think JM will do quite well at E Stirling, though it's obviously just a 'pocket money' job. He claimed he 'thrived on pressure' but I don't really believe he did. Should make interesting reading over the coming weeks.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 17:58:01
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 13 2008, 05:41 PM) [snapback]418727[/snapback]
Aw, I like Jackie, I hope she's OK. sad.gif

Take it you've never met her then!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 18:00:25
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Mar 13 2008, 05:44 PM) [snapback]418729[/snapback]
It will be in the Eagle Building on Bothwell Street, Glasgow (near a Weatherspoons pub).

Went to an employment tribunal a few years ago with Uni (was doing a module in Employment Law at the time) and the case we heard the guy represented himself. He lost. All the little technical things he failed to do and despite him having a decent chance of winning with a lawyer he failed on his own. He failed to ask certain questions, focused too much on particular aspects of his case.

Good luck!

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mortonjag 2008-03-13 18:02:37 Ferguslie Park Avenue has many tales to tell.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 18:04:00
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 13 2008, 06:02 PM) [snapback]418738[/snapback]
I'm sure Alonso will make Hamilton's life difficult when being lapped.
Raikkonen to win - Ferrari dominant.
As it should be. cool.gif

Hamilton's a one off. His talent is ahead of his years and he'll win hands down this time.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 18:14:30 In the greater scheme of things we are but a grain of sand in the Sahara desert.

Does that not tend to quantify us?

SAHARA PIPELINE laid by 2000 men in 28 days.

What a woman!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 18:16:59
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 13 2008, 06:07 PM) [snapback]418743[/snapback]
I have met her, many times.

Really, and she was nice to you.

You are clearly well named to charm that one.

Female newsreaders are infamous for getting to the top by treading on anything and everything!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 18:18:36
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 13 2008, 06:16 PM) [snapback]418750[/snapback]
it's ironic that auchendodgy street, where i used to buy truly crap gear, is now where i park my car for the game.

if only the residents would tone down the horrendous xmas displays, it would be a nice wee street. but they really are unforgivable.

Noted my friend! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-13 18:27:59
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 13 2008, 06:20 PM) [snapback]418754[/snapback]
Indeed she was. I tend to find that if you're nice to someone they'll reciprocate.

You should try it one day. wink.gif

I tend to find that when I'm nice to someone, he, or she, does indeed reciprocate.

Now back to yer Bird-well of course she's capable of being 'nice'. I can assure you she's also capable of being a 'nasty piece of goods'.


FACT!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 18:30:34
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Mar 13 2008, 06:21 PM) [snapback]418756[/snapback]
I actually got tested twice int he last 5 years, and both times they were at or above 136 (136 and 139).
136 and above is considered "genious." No, I'm nto saying anything about my scores because it all depends ont he testing, the environment, and the like.

By the way, the second test that I did (the 139) was a day after having Demerol in my system because of a liver biopsy.
*COUGH* *COUGH* BULLSH1T *COUGH* *COUGH* tongue.gif

You seem to disbelieve me Trick.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 18:33:09
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 13 2008, 06:21 PM) [snapback]418757[/snapback]
there is no point. in fact it's a bit of a daft question.

we're just noisy, stupid monkeys blabbering on, f***ing, killing, posturing, posing etc and taking ourselves very seriously.

i like mr edwards' shakespeare quotation and i think it's the most accurate philosophy i've heard.

I'd imagine philosophical monkeys would describe themselves as noisy, stupid reptiles.

What is the meaning of a snowflake?
mortonjag 2008-03-13 18:35:54
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 13 2008, 06:23 PM) [snapback]418758[/snapback]
mind you don't slever on your notepad, bawjaws. i would hate to miss out on the introduction, vandalism or whatever it is you're hinting at.

I wasn't hinting at anything-I just wanted to catch a glimpse of the self proclaimed ugliest man in the world. I already know your car-it's on the signature.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 18:37:47
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 13 2008, 06:29 PM) [snapback]418763[/snapback]
Bit like yersel then ya bitter auld fart. laugh.gif

You have not denied it!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 18:40:03
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 13 2008, 06:33 PM) [snapback]418766[/snapback]
Following your description of Brian Souter as a 'homophobic fascist', I assume this guy also fits that description?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotlan...est/7294193.stm

If not, why not?

Closet pufe more like.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 18:43:24
QUOTE(tontric @ Mar 13 2008, 03:54 PM) [snapback]418689[/snapback]
I think its a bit harsh to suggest a management team should pack their bags when they haven't had a single transfer window to adjust the team. Even if we were relegated I'd expect Irons and Collins to be at the helm at the start of next season and rightly so.

I still think they could have done more by getting a few loan signings in but they need a transfer window before we can properly judge them.

Have they been appointed to keep us up?

I believe they have-Shoogly has not stated otherwise, and if indeed he secretly wants relegation, he'd surely have been better hanging on to JM.

Then again, that's what he CLAIMED he wanted to do!!!!! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-13 18:46:07
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Mar 13 2008, 06:02 PM) [snapback]418740[/snapback]
Ficked, screwed, doon the swanney, wheres ma paddle, bear grylls withoot piss watter, sinking ship, look out for that mountain, is that a suicide bomber..................boom, watch you dont hit that car...........smash, fick I've left ma parachute. in a nutshell they will be gone by monday and I for one cant wait for this joke of scottish football to disappear. they have as i have said brought nothing to the bigger table of scottish football and i blame the beeks. I remember years ago when falkirk were not allowed into the spl, what changed for them hee haw and thier stadium was a 1,000,000 times worse. it just makes a mockery of our game.

I must admit though I admire guys like Skelton for turning up for training and when asked why he says "its my job". we should go for him no doubt.........................commited even when he is not getting paid.

Skelton was there before the Pony Tailed charlatan.You really have to admire the boy's attitude.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 18:51:25
QUOTE(stuart @ Mar 13 2008, 06:47 PM) [snapback]418774[/snapback]
I don't like the original poster's lack of concern for the plight of Miss Bird who I like too.

I do hope she is ok.

Do Birds still make custard?
mortonjag 2008-03-13 19:00:13 Over the years there have been Glasgow city streets which became 'no go' areas even for the 'Polis'.

At one point in the eighties Blackhill had about three separate streets in that category, and the local cop shop had bars on the outside of the windows.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 19:02:03
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 13 2008, 07:00 PM) [snapback]418782[/snapback]
could one of you knee-jerks provide a link to the full text of the lecture, then we can make our own minds up smile.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


You will decide on the good Bishop's true feelings on the basis of a lecture? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-13 19:04:23
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 13 2008, 06:57 PM) [snapback]418779[/snapback]
the original question referred to the point of life, not the meaning, which i would suggest is a different question. i'm amused by the way that the question contained the word 'hell' rolleyes.gif

of course, to the simple atheist, the answer to both questions is no point / no meaning, so boozehound's answer might seem as reasonable as any.

i do think it's a bit of a cop out to say 'nothing' and leave it at that though. you really do need to have something to get you to turn up for more, day after day.

if nothing else, i've got a lifelong challenge to master that fiendish instrument, the guitar sad.gif

A bad workman blames his tools Trumpet, and talking of tools, the POINT of life is the penis.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 19:08:50
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 13 2008, 07:03 PM) [snapback]418784[/snapback]
How many standard deviations from the mean would be indicated by an IQ of 200 and what would that mean in probability terms?

hint: only high IQ performers need attempt this question

I believe the answer to be a barrel of Christmas Cards.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 19:10:39
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 13 2008, 07:05 PM) [snapback]418786[/snapback]
so you've not read the text?

No need Trumpet-when it comes to the Catholic clergy I just expect the standard deviation.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 19:11:41
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 13 2008, 07:06 PM) [snapback]418787[/snapback]
you misunderstand, grasshopper (again)

I misunderstand nothing Trumpet.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 19:13:21
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 13 2008, 07:12 PM) [snapback]418795[/snapback]
i think you'll find belief is in another thread, sir

The answer is a barrel of Christmas cards.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 19:18:03
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 13 2008, 07:09 PM) [snapback]418791[/snapback]
although he plays a mean pinball sad.gif



Ever since I was a young boy I played the silver ball
From Soho down to Brighton I must have played them all
But I ain't seen nothing like him in any amusement hall
That deaf, dumb and blind kid sure plays a mean pinball

He stands like a statue, becomes part of the machine
Feeling all the bumpers, always playing clean
He plays by intuition, the digit counters fall
That deaf, dumb and blind kid sure plays a mean pinball

He's a pinball wizard, there has to be a twist
A pinball wizard's got such a supple wrist
How do you think he does it - I don't know
What makes him so good

He ain't got no distractions, can't hear no buzzes and bells
Don't see lights a-flashing, he plays by sense of smell
Always has a replay, never tilts at all
That deaf, dumb and blind kid sure plays a mean pinball

He can't beat me now I've always been the champ
I know every trick, no freak's gonna beat my hand

Even on my usual table, he can beat the best
His disciples lean him in and he just does the rest
He's got crazy flipper fingers, I've never seen him fall
That deaf, dumb and blind kid sure plays a mean pinball

He's a pinball wizard, there has to be a twist
A pinball wizard's got such a supple wrist

He's a pinball wizard, he's scored a trillion more
A pinball wizard, the world's new pinball lord
He's scoring more, he's scoring more

I thought I was the Bally table king
But I just handed my pinball crown to him, to him, to him
mortonjag 2008-03-13 19:23:01
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 13 2008, 07:14 PM) [snapback]418797[/snapback]


sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif

Riddle me this ... the BBC claims that the Pony Tailed charlatan poured 8,000,000 pounds into Gretna FC

I don't think that the Pony Tailed charlatan had a brain infection.

But can medical science prove that he had a brain
?

huh.gif huh.gif huh.gif

Pouring money into a loss making venture does not necessarily indicate anencephaly-I'm sure Mr Rae would agree with that.

Microcephaly may be the more accurate term.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 19:24:02
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 13 2008, 07:22 PM) [snapback]418803[/snapback]
.. in case the allusion was lost on younger readers

Nice lyrics and nice choon!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 19:27:25
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 13 2008, 07:23 PM) [snapback]418806[/snapback]
isn't he handsome wub.gif


Isn't she lovely
Isn't she wonderfull
Isn't she precious
Less than one minute old
I never thought through love we'd be
Making one as lovely as she
But isn't she lovely made from love

Isn't she pretty
Truly the angel's best
Man, i'm so happy
We have been heaven blessed
I can't believe what god has done
through us he's given life to one
But isn't she lovely made from love


Londie, it could have not been done
Without you who conceived the one
That's so very lovely made from love

Isn't she lovely
Isn't she wonderfull
Isn't she precious
Less than one minute old
I never thought through love we'd be
Making one as lovely as she
So very lovely made from love
mortonjag 2008-03-13 19:29:25
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 13 2008, 06:50 PM) [snapback]418775[/snapback]
She's presenting Reporting Scotland as I type and I'm happy to report that she appears to have suffered no ill effects. smile.gif

Will you be shagging her later?
mortonjag 2008-03-13 19:30:25
QUOTE(princessTON @ Mar 13 2008, 07:22 PM) [snapback]418804[/snapback]
Only if i can be arsed. rolleyes.gif

I bet you can't cook tongue!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 19:32:47
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 13 2008, 07:20 PM) [snapback]418802[/snapback]
fate should ensure that we finish 9th and stay up due to the demise of gretna

rolleyes.gif

Take nothing for granted in Scottish football Trumpet.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 19:34:34
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 13 2008, 07:31 PM) [snapback]418811[/snapback]
Easy tiger. rolleyes.gif

In my dreams perhaps.

ohmy.gif

I'm just SO disappointed-I expected MUCH better!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 20:06:27
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 13 2008, 07:45 PM) [snapback]418815[/snapback]
Microcephaly may be the more accurate term.

So, in that case, he would have required microsurgery during his hospital stay ??

And now he is cured and therefore pulled the pin ??

blink.gif blink.gif

No, he pulled the 'plug'. I'm told that Alibi is creeping about the grounds of 'Llama leap' at this very moment, looking for a vantage point from which to lob his grenade!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 20:11:04
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 13 2008, 08:04 PM) [snapback]418823[/snapback]

Very few lines to read between-he's got to be seen to play it by the book.

Gretna are no more!!!


Long live Gretna FC. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-13 20:17:29
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 13 2008, 07:48 PM) [snapback]418817[/snapback]
Hmm.... bugger.

What sorta things did he bugger up?

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Sounds like the biggest mistake he made was thinking they'd believe his honest face.

Those tribunals are supposed to be informal, but they still resemble law courts, and those acting for employers know ALL the tricks.

For that reason alone it's CRAZY to go in without a prepared case and representation.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 20:24:11
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 13 2008, 07:57 PM) [snapback]418820[/snapback]
and understand nothing, i hope?

I've always had great difficulty with the concept of 'nothing'.





Perhaps I had a wicked childhood
Perhaps I had a miserable youth
But somwhere in my wicked, miserable past
There must have been a moment of truth

For here you are, standing there, loving me
Whether or not you should
So somewhere in my youth or childhood
I must have done something good

Nothing comes from nothing
Nothing ever could

So somewhere in my youth or childhood
I must have done something good


For here you are, standing there, loving me
Whether or not you should


So somewhere in my youth or childhood
I must have done something good


Nothing comes from nothing
Nothing ever could


So somewhere in my youth

Or childhood

I must have done something . . .

Something good
mortonjag 2008-03-13 20:25:41
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 13 2008, 08:20 PM) [snapback]418831[/snapback]
so do you sit on the setee or the sofa while eating your tv dinners?

I sit on my arse for my tea.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 20:27:49
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 13 2008, 08:23 PM) [snapback]418832[/snapback]
Sorry McB but I think the bish is talking pish. A wee bit Christian charity wouldn't go amiss. 'Secularism is worse than sectarianism' eh? I don't think so. blink.gif

Does this Bishop chap dislike pufes?
mortonjag 2008-03-13 20:29:01
QUOTE(thedonn @ Mar 13 2008, 08:24 PM) [snapback]418836[/snapback]
what a chippalata

link?
mortonjag 2008-03-13 20:33:48
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 13 2008, 08:29 PM) [snapback]418841[/snapback]
And I'm sure the Bishop's boss would wholeheartedly agree with everything he said.

I find it extremely difficult to understand how Tom can on the one hand call Souter a 'homophobic fascist' while the leaders of his very own religious faith have exactly the same views. dry.gif

I can't imagine Mr Bam seeing his religious leaders as fascists.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 22:00:51
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 13 2008, 08:32 PM) [snapback]418844[/snapback]
I've still got all the correspondance between both parties and I'm going over it all with a fine tooth comb. Making notes and the like and I'm gonna prep my witnesses. I'm quietly confident.

Especially as I just get a letter through informing me that my former employer's lawyer is no longer representing them in this case. If I couldn't get a lawyer a fortnight ago I wonder how they can manage with a week to go.

Have ACAS not been involved?
mortonjag 2008-03-13 22:03:47
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 13 2008, 08:40 PM) [snapback]418850[/snapback]
the penis mightier than the sward - not according to bill shankly

The penis often mighter than this horde Trumpet
mortonjag 2008-03-13 22:06:59
QUOTE(El gofer @ Mar 13 2008, 09:12 PM) [snapback]418857[/snapback]
Bishop Devine is reknowned for his conservative rhetoric. He came out with soon me line that he sympathised with the Conservatives on moral issues.

Not surprising. Catholic doctrine does not agree with homosexuality. No real news here.
There are clergy that I know well as friends who woulld not be as reactionary as Old Joe.

The Fascists analogy reminds me of the Father Ted episode when Ted says "No NO! I am not a fascist, i am a priest!! There is a clear difference. Fascists dress in black and go around telling people what to do, whereas priests............"

Aye but is he a fascist homophobe?
mortonjag 2008-03-13 22:12:23
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Mar 13 2008, 09:13 PM) [snapback]418858[/snapback]
its cold!!!!!!!!

A hand in Bird's bush is worth two in Bush's bird
mortonjag 2008-03-13 22:17:40
QUOTE(capitanus @ Mar 13 2008, 09:46 PM) [snapback]418870[/snapback]
Blackhill even in its heyday had nothing on the Wine Alley in Govan, it was Rottweiller country at its most grim.

When was wine alley in its heyday?


I'm talking about streets in my living memory (or working memory).

Nothing in the Govan area post 1980 come close to the worst of Blackhill, or Barrowfield for that matter.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 22:23:33
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 13 2008, 10:14 PM) [snapback]418888[/snapback]
Whether or not Christianity is a homophobic faith is open for debate. I suppose Christians can regard homosexual practice as a sin without being homophobic, in the same way that they see heterosexual sex outside marriage as sinful without being 'heterophobic'. (is that a word?) If you're saying that all practising Catholics are either homophobic or hypocritical about the issue then I think you're wrong.

All have sinned and come short of the glory of God-born in sin and shapen in iniquity, so why do they dislike the poor pufes so much?
mortonjag 2008-03-13 22:28:43
QUOTE(Kaney @ Mar 13 2008, 10:04 PM) [snapback]418884[/snapback]
That wouldnt work though.

If striling were to lose the playoff, 2 teams would be coming up, with only 1 going down...
I do apologise if you're already saying thats with Gretna dropping to division 2 aswell, but I think it looks more like they'll close down completley?

Gretna are well and truly f*cked. It's all over bar the shouting.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 22:35:13
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Mar 13 2008, 10:24 PM) [snapback]418891[/snapback]
Sorry Marx, i meant the Tenement era tongue.gif
Correct, Mum and her sisters lived in Ladyburn St when they were young and she mentioned Chalmers st quite a few times
I would agree with that, brother lives in Provanmill and ive wandered through Blackhill a few times wondering when i was getting jumped.

Indeed Gibby-I worked for Air Call (overnight emergency service) in Greater Glasgow from 1982-85. We covered the whole city, and all the big schemes had bad streets, but there were only two in the whole City where you automatically went in with a Police escort, and both were in Blackhill-one was Acrehill St., and the other slips my mind at present.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 22:41:46
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Mar 13 2008, 10:36 PM) [snapback]418900[/snapback]
It is a pity that a lot of hard working, good people are tarnished by a minority of bam-pots.

The sad fact is HT that in the streets I'm talking about all the hard working and good people had gone, but more generally it's sad to hear folk describe a whole area-Drumchapel is a good example on the basis of the worst of its residents.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 22:43:56
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Mar 13 2008, 10:37 PM) [snapback]418901[/snapback]
Does the Pope have a wooden dick? blink.gif

All twelve inches, but doesn't use it as a rule.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 22:46:06
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Mar 13 2008, 10:31 PM) [snapback]418898[/snapback]
Are you a six sigma black belt? Now that would be impressive.

He wears a sequinned suspender belt-more like.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 22:50:40
QUOTE(Clydebuilt @ Mar 13 2008, 10:46 PM) [snapback]418908[/snapback]
It amuses me the way these administrator guys look so earnest & have perfected the art of sincerity and looking about to greet with the massive weight they now have on their shoulders.

2 days ago he was probably closing down a chippy in Hull due to depleted cod stocks and today it's "we this, we that, if I can put a team" out etc etc.

I reckon they must have a prize in the office Christmas party - "next football club to go tits up, you can go manager sorry I mean administrator"!

Well I suppose they are a bit like undertakers-it wouldn't do to look too jolly on the job, even if you're laughing all the way to the bank.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 22:55:00
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Mar 13 2008, 10:52 PM) [snapback]418914[/snapback]
There's someone missing! Where's the Willowman blink.gif

Indeed he's been conspicuous by his absence-maybe he's launching a last ditch attempt to save Gretna.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 23:01:10
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 13 2008, 10:53 PM) [snapback]418916[/snapback]
Drove a bus for Arriva up the Drum , superb !! At night anymore than two folk a a bus stop you didn't stop . A load a wanes would camp at the top of wee hill and fire golf balls at the bus at regular intervals .
.

The one good thing was the bin men took everything I was amazed at the household stuff that was uplifted , then I was told well if they don't lift it it gets thrown at them next week .

Not all areas of the Drum are/were bad though. Mind you one of my fondest memories is of mobile grocers vans doing business at three and four in the morning-I guess it was mainly bootleg videos, hash etc. The new video age had dawned by 1983 and half of the Drum was awake throughout most of any given night!

Another bizarre memory from those days. When Dallas was on telly, the call rate dropped to a trickle, and the minute it ended the Calpol delivery service was up to speed again.
mortonjag 2008-03-13 23:02:48
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 13 2008, 10:53 PM) [snapback]418915[/snapback]
Barbara or Laura?

Yes!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 23:04:15
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 13 2008, 10:51 PM) [snapback]418912[/snapback]
All I can say is
The sooner they start the backshift - the better!

wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-13 23:10:53
QUOTE(Marc @ Mar 13 2008, 11:00 PM) [snapback]418924[/snapback]
I think it will be rolleyes.gif

I would have voted for absolutely if the option was there mad.gif

That was an absolute blunder-I apologise. I shall check with my friend Trumpet to see if the statistical validity of the result has been jeopardised!
mortonjag 2008-03-13 23:14:41 My darling politicians-true SCUM. They really bring out the worst in me-Guy Fawkes was a goody.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 06:32:39 CAVALIER


Showing arrogant or offhand disregard; dismissive: a cavalier attitude toward the suffering of others.





'CAVALIER IN HIS ACTIONS': Alex Salmond
Scotland's First Minister Alex Salmond was "cavalier" in his actions over a controversial planning application by US tycoon Donald Trump, according to a damning Holyrood report.

Mr Salmond showed "exceptionally poor judgment" at best and "a worrying lack of awareness about the consequences of his actions" , a committee of MSPs said.

Last night, however, the inquiry into the way ministers handled Mr Trump's application for a £1bn golf resort in Aberdeenshire had broken down into a ruthlessly partisan exercise.

The 55-page report produced by the parliament's local government committee was unusual in Holyrood terms in the way it carried dissenting positions on almost every paragraph. The three SNP MSPs on the committee dissented from the most critical findings.
The report came up with the key verdict: "The committee believes that far from taking a precautionary approach, the First Minister was cavalier in his actions and displayed, at best, exceptionally poor judgment and a worrying lack of awareness about the consequences of his actions."

The committee said it did not accept the Trump development was of "national importance," nor that it was of such significance as to merit "one in a million" treatment. The report suggested that the purpose of the Trump meeting with Mr Salmond and the chief planner on December 3 and 4 was not to seek advice on legal processes but to emphasise the Trump Organisation's concern at the November 29 refusal of planning permission and to ask if Mr Salmond could set up a meeting with chief planner Jim MacKinnon.

The majority of MSPs on the committee said they were "very concerned" that John Swinney did not obtain legal or official advice in writing before deciding to call in the application. They said it was clear that the application was called in because it had been refused, adding: "It is the view of the committee that the Cabinet Secretary acted inappropriately and potentially opened his decision to legal challenge."

In their criticism of Mr Salmond, the MSPs said that as a constituency MSP for Gordon he was not obliged to meet Trump's representatives, had no particular planning expertise, and could have declined to meet them.

He had never acted in this way on any other development, had no detailed knowledge of the planning process, and acknowledged he was constrained in what he could discuss.

Given all this, said the report, it was "astonishing" that Mr Salmond did not perceive there was a risk his actions might be open to question and that there could be a legal action.




Chickens coming home to roost already Spurtle-what a shower of arrogant little nappy rashers led by a nobody disguised as a tumshie headed scarecrow.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 06:47:44
QUOTE(bigstu22 @ Mar 14 2008, 12:25 AM) [snapback]418950[/snapback]
All Greenock streets are for lightweights. I was born and brought up in the backstreets of Kilmacolm-where you'd get a silver spoon in your back as soon as you turned it tongue.gif

I was born in the Rankin, and brought up in Greenock, the Port, and Kilmacolm.

Kilmacolm was by far the worst-huge risk of being killed on any of its streets by old ladies in Ford Prefects, or Morris Oxfords.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 06:54:10
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Mar 14 2008, 12:36 AM) [snapback]418954[/snapback]
Hey, enough of that old fella. I can still whip up a stiffy on demand, so ye can keep the batteries for your Stanna stairlift.

Jesus, there is no end to jealousy on this rag.

You can have a wee shot any time you like-it takes two quite comfortably once you've got the position correct.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 06:56:52
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 14 2008, 06:22 AM) [snapback]418967[/snapback]
I think I know enough about Devine and Souter to conclude that the pair of them would like to change laws in order to discriminate against homosexuals. What's really unforgiveable about Devine is that he's apparently fond of Mad Mel Gibson. laugh.gif

....and secretly wants somebody to blaze his saddle. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-14 07:02:01
QUOTE(Marc @ Mar 13 2008, 11:55 PM) [snapback]418942[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif ermmm... Ok

He's usually quite prompt-I suspect the equation for this one is a bit complicated-he's perhaps mixing up standard deviations with llama shagging.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 07:03:34
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Mar 13 2008, 11:22 PM) [snapback]418938[/snapback]
The Buckie keeper had an excellent game against us, could be worth scouting out guys like that as well as what is available in the SFL.
I don't think McGurn is all that bad though, will benefit immensely for Wylie imo.

...and he still finds time to run his off sales.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 07:08:33
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Mar 13 2008, 11:13 PM) [snapback]418935[/snapback]
Bit early to use words like "inept", but I will say that he doesn't seem to have much of an eye for making a good change, something I think we also witnessed over the two cup games against Gretna too.

That said though, I think it would be a wee bit unfair to judge too harshly on that front considering the limitations of the squad he inherited- e.g., a no proper full-backs, and no real strikers to compete for the places available. Still though, zero marks for imagination so far.

That's what's concerning me. Forget August, and concentrate on one game at a time. I'm convinced Rae wants us to stay up, and I'm equally convinced that the DI/DC signing was made without much time for thought or planning.

They should be judged on what they can achieve RIGHT NOW with what's available to them. That's what they took on board.

Perfectly simple, and no place for excuses.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 07:13:15
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 14 2008, 07:06 AM) [snapback]418974[/snapback]
Cavalier ?? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Labour politicians like Duncan McNeil pontificating about so called wrong doings is an absolute affront. The man and his party have no shame !

The committee (made up of mostly of opposition MSP's) could not find a shred of evidence of any wrong doing at all !

And it it's amazing how the gullable like you Doc are taken in by the unionist press very biased slant on things.

Salmond is "slated" for not breaking the ministerial code and Wendy is "vindicated" for breaking the law." blink.gif

This committee was nothing more than a group of opposition MSP's trying to taint Salmond's reputation and couldn't lay a glove on him.

Why don't they go after the man who tried and failed to, in parliament, tar Salmond with the brush of sleeze. Nichol Stephen and his 3 houses !

huh.gif



FFS-I'm so sorry-I seem to have misjudged poor Bawheid yet again. Have you got his shirt ironed yet BTW?
mortonjag 2008-03-14 07:45:32
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 14 2008, 07:35 AM) [snapback]418978[/snapback]
I'm finalising things before I move on Thursday and so far behind getting my new place ready I need some help - any plumbers on the board loking for some work - probably a couple of days worth (new bathroom needs fitted)

PM me if you can actually help before Thursday

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

I've fitted a couple of bathrooms in the last year or so, but I'm ponderously slow, and a perfectionist who drives everybody else crazy.

Modern flexy fittings have turned all but the most complicated plumbing jobs into 'lego' stuff, especially if you're just hauling out and replacing.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 07:48:08
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 14 2008, 07:14 AM) [snapback]418977[/snapback]
I'll iron them, you lift them rolleyes.gif

ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-14 07:55:05 Brooks Mileson: 'This club is in my soul. I would have ended up croaking if I had not come to Gretna'

Tycoon behind Gretna, who face Clyde in the Scottish Cup today, tells Nick Harris about his grand design


Saturday, 4 February 2006


Brooks Mileson is one of Britain's wealthiest businessmen but he could easily pass for a roadie. His fortune could have bought access to many glamorous boardrooms. Instead, he has been a philanthropist to 70 non-league clubs, and owns the Scottish minnows, Gretna.


His medical record suggests he should be on his last legs, if not expired. He broke his back at 11 and was told he would never walk again. His hips were damaged and he subsequently lost a kidney. Now 58, he's had two heart attacks, suffers from the debilitating condition ME and his daily diet consists of 100 cigarettes and Lucozade.

"And coffee," he adds, pouring his third mug in an hour. "And if I'm away from the wife, I do like a bag of chips. I run on adrenaline."

He evidently comes from hardy Wearside stock, raised with four younger siblings on the Pennywell council estate in Sunderland. His parents are still alive, now living in Spain.

Mileson's perseverance speaks for itself. In 1982 he was "potless" after redundancy. He set up a construction company, then branched out into insurance. He later sold one company for £17m and another for £46.8m, but retains a wide portfolio, including property, insurance and software. He will not confirm his worth - widely put at £36m-plus - but concedes "I do all right."

Football is his passion, hence his donations to the likes of Whitby Town, the Northern League (which he sponsors), and Carlisle United - his first love. He once tried to buy them, but was thwarted by Michael Knighton. Mileson also loves animals, and has a menagerie on his estate comprising ostriches, emus, rheas, wallabies ("they breed like buggery"), monkeys, capibara, 130 horses, Highland cattle, pigs, goats and a herd of deer. "People know I can't turn them away," he says. "A football fan from Dundee recently asked me to take in some African spurred tortoises. What can you do?"

Even for a rags-to-riches tycoon of some eccentricity - he hires jugglers for pre-match entertainment, stands on the terraces, and has been known to let everyone in for nothing - his gusto is still exceptional as he spends two hours debunking myths about his tenure at Gretna.

They were admitted to the Scottish League in 2002. With Mileson's backing from 2003, they romped to the Third Division title last season, winning it with a record tally of points (98) and goals (130). They top the Second Division and promotion is expected. A third successive step up next season - a tougher assignment but feasible - would represent a leap from nowhere to the SPL in three years.

Of immediate concern is today's Scottish Cup fourth-round match at First Division Clyde, the shock third-round conquerors of Celtic. Clyde are at home, yet Gretna are the favourites. "We've never got this far before," Mileson says. "But we're ambitious to get into the First Division ourselves, so this will be another measure of how far we've come."

A common misconception is that Mileson is blowing the bank at Gretna. It has been claimed that the transfer budget and wages are sky high, that a planned 6,000-seat stadium is a monument to folly (average gates are 1,200), and that the whole venture is an unsustainable dash up the league.

"People say we're buying the league," Mileson says. "Rubbish. We've got a good manager [Rowan Alexander, whose enthusiasm lured Mileson in the first place] who finds good players. Our record signing cost £60,000. We've spent a couple of hundred thousand in my whole time here. As for wages, the lower leagues in England and the Conference pay more. Nobody here is even on a four-figure weekly wage.

"And it's not us who want 6,000 seats. We're a small club, we'll always be a small club. But if we have SPL ambitions, we need 6,000 seats. It's the rule."

Mileson does not put a figure on his total outlay, but it is "a few million, not many millions". The cash has also paid for a club academy, based in Penrith, and tie-ups with 150 schools, providing free coaching far beyond the town, and coaching and fitness expertise in David Holdsworth, once of Birmingham, and Viv Busby, a one-time FA Cup finalist with Fulham. They and others have been attracted not by money but by a dream of a thriving, community-based club, run professionally and punching way above its weight.

"I think its the moral responsibility of a club to become involved in the community," Mileson says. He says he is at Gretna for good, and that his son Craig, 29, already on board full-time, "will be here after me." What has always driven Mileson is the accident, aged 11, when he broke his back after being crushed by sandstone while larking in a quarry.

"That was probably the main determining point in my life. I thought 'I'm not going to lie on my back for the rest of my life'. I started to drag myself round the furniture. Eventually I walked, and then ran."

Incredibly, he became a cross-country runner, finishing third in the 1966 national junior championships. "I did it because they said I couldn't. The word 'can't' doesn't sit very well with me.

"This club is in my soul now. My specialist [who treats his ME] says this has put years on my life. I'd probably have ended up croaking if I hadn't come to Gretna."




Looks like this may now be a suicide pact! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-14 08:40:18
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 14 2008, 08:16 AM) [snapback]418983[/snapback]
OK, I'll try.

Mathewson, I don't know this gut at all, so can't comment.

Souter, well his contribution was legal so there's no problem with that. Whether or not it was morally right to accept it though, is a different question. I've already said I think it's possible to believe homosexuality is wrong while not being homophobic as such. I've absolutely no idea if Souter falls into that categorty or not. If however he does, then I personally have no problem with that.

Trump, well that not such an easy one. To turn away a one billion pound investment I'd suggest you'd have to have a pretty damn good and solid reasons. I'm not saying for one minute we should welcome anyone who comes to Scotland 'dangling jobs like a donkey's carrot' (copyright Paul Weller 1982) and let them do what they want. But is disliking Trump as a man or as a Capitlalist a good enough reason to reject his investment? Well that's for each person to make up their own mind on. Then of course there's the envirnmental argument to consider, again that's down to each persons individual beliefs as to whether the environment comes before jobs and the enconomy.

To be honest I can see very strong arguments on both sides and I'm undecided. That's why I think calling the planning application in was probably the right thing to do, to allow the final decision to be made in a measured and considered way.

Amazing how we get those long threads which are often just a different interpretation of a term.

A phobia is normally defined as an irrational hatred, disapproval, or fear. of something.

It follows that anyone who disapproves of -for example-homosexual love, is either homophobic, or can demonstrate a logical reason for his opinion.

'Jesus loves me-this I know for the Bible tells me so'. Incontrovertibly logical?

Oh well perhaps old Devine still believes in the tooth fairy person too.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 09:28:13
QUOTE(tontric @ Mar 14 2008, 09:18 AM) [snapback]418990[/snapback]
Yes they have been signed to try and keep us up. If they don't manage it then it's a bit harsh to blame them when they haven't really had a chance to bring in their own players. Mr McInally didn't leave them with the best squad to work with.

The goalposts always get shifted to suit the argument!

When JM was here it was at least 90% his fault that we were 'underperforming'.

Now he's gone it's still his fault that we can't perform any better!!!

That is frankly daft. If DI/DC don't keep us in division 1, they will quite simply have failed the test.

I'm not for a minute suggesting that it's easy, nor that they are incompetent.

Merely stating fact.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 09:31:09
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Mar 14 2008, 09:29 AM) [snapback]418992[/snapback]
Col in Soapy Soutaresque comment shocker!

Sometimes very difficult to divine Spurtle's logic.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 09:33:29
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 14 2008, 09:31 AM) [snapback]418994[/snapback]
I heard the Bishop being interviewed on Radio Scotland's Drive Time (or whatever it's called) and he was very frank in his views.
His main beef seemed to be homosexuals attending Holocaust Memorial services saying 'they should get their own day, this is a day of rememberance for Jews'. He would do well to read the poem 'First They Came...' by Pastor Martin Niemoller before speaking out. I suppose that could count as a form of Holocaust denial, after all we have a Nazi Pope.

The pope's a Nazi!

He's not a pufe too, perchance?
mortonjag 2008-03-14 09:52:38
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 14 2008, 09:32 AM) [snapback]418995[/snapback]
I've told you before, an administrator is more akin to a surgeon performing emergency surgery on a severely injured patient - a high proportion of them die and in Gretna's case they might still be breathing but they are already brain dead.

The liquidator is the undertaker!

Do try and pay attention!

I always pay attention!

I said they are 'a bit' like undertakers, and given the huge operative mortality in administrative proceedings, I believe that is the correct way to appear.


'What's the chance of him pulling through Doc'?


Doc-with big cheesy grin-'He's definitely got a chance'.

'A good chance Doc?'

Doc-bursts into uncontrollable laughter-'Well the last ten have died, so I guess that must boost his chance'.

'It's not really a laughing matter Doc'.


Doc-choking back tears of jollity-'If I didn't laugh, I'd cry'.


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mortonjag 2008-03-14 09:55:09
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 14 2008, 09:45 AM) [snapback]419001[/snapback]
Word for word. I'm sure you could get a transcript from the BBC. Kept refering to 'they' and 'them' with regards to homosexuals.

...while thinking 'I and us'.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 09:57:39
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 14 2008, 09:37 AM) [snapback]418998[/snapback]
There are a few comments on pie and bovril about Chris Innes which can be suimmed up as

1) Morton have made him the best offer, not far away from what he is presently earning but he is not keen to come. No reason given but I would speculate he wants a bigger club

2) According to Gretna mad forum, he is in talks with Dundee to join them until the end of the season.

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OK, he's a pro who wants the best from his career, and who can blame him.

Doesn't look like our current management are a big pull mind!
mortonjag 2008-03-14 09:58:59
QUOTE(Kekkoman @ Mar 14 2008, 09:56 AM) [snapback]419007[/snapback]
I dont think so. Think of the saves Robinson makes that Mcgurn simply cant. This would more than make up for the points he throws away because Mcgurn makes a lot of stupid mistakes as well.

Do you believe that either keeper is up to first division standard?
mortonjag 2008-03-14 10:06:41
QUOTE(Kekkoman @ Mar 14 2008, 10:03 AM) [snapback]419011[/snapback]
As i said earlier in the thread neither should be playing for morton. i.e. not good enough for the 1st division.

But that is not the quesiton. I think that Robinson is better. Not by much though, but id pick him over Mcgurn.

If we had the option to keep him i would also do that as i feel with some guidance from an experienced head, like nelson, Robinson wil improve far beyond Mcgurn.

I'm not convinced by Robinson-he produces some fine reflex saves (as did Craig Coyle), but there's much more to playing in a team than doing beat the goalie at the Church Fair.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 10:38:26
QUOTE(Kekkoman @ Mar 14 2008, 10:23 AM) [snapback]419016[/snapback]
Thats why i think if we signed someone like Nelson he would benefit greatly. It would help other aspects of his game. Its plain to see hes got far better reflexes than mcgurn.

That's the point though-the world champion at keepy uppy has fantastic reflexes but doesn't play for Barca!
mortonjag 2008-03-14 10:54:39
QUOTE(Kekkoman @ Mar 14 2008, 10:46 AM) [snapback]419021[/snapback]
I gather thats the point you are making....but i dont just think its about his reflexes, i think the main thing that lets him down is his silly mistakes (which our whole defence is guilty of, including mcgurn) and that the rest of the defence dont seem to be confident in him.

Apart from that i think he is a better shot stopper, he has better reflexes and better distribution than mcgurn imo.

He is still far far away from anyh finished article, but bk to the original question i would prefer him to Mcgurn, and if we fail to sign another keeper would like to see him stay.

Well I would prefer McGurn. He has gone through a shaky patch as all goalies do, but at his best he's a solid and dependable stopper who inspires far more confidence than Robinson.

As I said before a competent goalie can look mediocre behind a crap defence and vice versa.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 10:59:26
QUOTE(centralTON @ Mar 14 2008, 10:50 AM) [snapback]419023[/snapback]
Aye right, auld yin, if it was that easy, you'd all be makin' a fortune. wink.gif
There's a bit more to plumbing than that, however, I do agree with you about the flexi's, best thing since sliced bread.
Would love to help you out Sanity, but, like most tradesmen I'm fully booked for weeks.
Good luck tho'.

No problem, we'll just get wee Nickerless to sort you out-whatever happened to service? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-14 11:03:58
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 14 2008, 10:57 AM) [snapback]419029[/snapback]
I think that if you're suggesting Scotland and the North East in particular won't benefit from this investment, then sorry, I disagree. Of course it will benefit the economy. Most people in the North East wanted it and were outraged when their council rejected it.

The real questions that should be considered are....

Does the costs to the environment outweight the benefits to the economy? I remain undecided.

Is Trump the sort of man we should allow to invest in our country? Well, I can't say that I like the man or approve of his business methods. But should you allow personal beliefs cloud your judgement if the investment is for the greater good of the country? I would suggest you shouldn't. I certainly don't think Trump should get preferrential treatment, and I don't think there's any hard evidence to say he is, but similarly I don't think he should be disciminated again just because of who he is.

I think his application should be considered solely on its merits and demerits, not on personalities.

Au contraire, I think it should be chucked out without undue consideration because he's a keech.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 11:08:28 Prediction time again-I notice the enthusiasm seems to wane with every passing week. I'm normally an optimist-I was quite pleased with our first three matches under DI, but Tuesday night has set me thinking all over again. If he couldn't get a result against Clyde, I'm afraid we may be facing the stark reality that he's not as good as expected.

Anyway, one game at a time. I'm scared to predict at all,but the Monkey says it's a 1-1draw.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 11:13:12
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Mar 14 2008, 11:06 AM) [snapback]419037[/snapback]
I was wondering whether it was better to burn brightly for a short while, and all the glory that goes with it (successive promotions, unbelievable goal scoring feats, SFA Cup Final, UEFA Cup!!) and quickly wither and die; or best to toddle on in the First Division for ever with nothing ever really happening.
We may well enjoy a few seasons of glory, but once again like Gretna it’s a story of how one person controlling the finances and bank rolling the club can leave you in the sh*t when things go wrong. We really do need a back up plan for when something happens to DDFR.

Would you rather have a bloody good ten years and die or go on forever no matter what?

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I would simply like us to achieve the achievable and puzzle at why it seems so bloody hard when we have clubs like Falkirk, Killie, Motherwell etc. sailing along in the SPL.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 11:21:28
QUOTE(Capuan @ Mar 14 2008, 11:18 AM) [snapback]419044[/snapback]
Last time Partick visited we we're in a pessamistic mood - 4 goals in the first 50 mins soon quelled that!
Think we'll still win but it wont be so clear cut,

Morton 2-1 Partick

McGurn to be back in goal

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True, but for some reason Partick just didn't turn up last time-they were utterly clueless and McColl was raging. Won't be like that tomorrow.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 11:41:02
QUOTE(Capuan @ Mar 14 2008, 11:24 AM) [snapback]419049[/snapback]
Thats an interesting, if not slightly morbid point.

Surely it doesn't make sense for morton to be so dependant on one individual? How many 'soft loans' does the club owe Mr. Rae's parent company Golden Casket? And while he has stated previously that these loans are not deemed to need repayed in the short term, what happens when he is no longer in a position to give us those assurances?

Apparently the actual money owed to GC is about £350,000 now that the new share issue's been sorted out, and bear in mind that when Shoogly shakes off the mortal coil, his son will presumably be a major beneficiary.

We also have Mr Donald hovering in the wings-his intentions are far from clear at the moment, but he is vastly wealthier than Golden Casket, and if he's only on the Board for fun the Monkey just laid a golden egg.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 11:57:07 I don't understand it. If Gretna are unable to profit from playing this tie, why should the inevitable be postponed and the agony prolonged?

I guess it's all about too many people watching their backs and playing things by the book.

Now if only Mileson had done that in the first place!
mortonjag 2008-03-14 12:26:49
QUOTE(suda @ Mar 14 2008, 12:15 PM) [snapback]419065[/snapback]
are you sure it's not Shoogly's fault!?

NO!
mortonjag 2008-03-14 12:30:45
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Mar 14 2008, 12:19 PM) [snapback]419067[/snapback]
I agree. Personal beliefs are what fuel all of your decision making. Otherwise you're not acting on your own behalf.

I'm sure Mr Rae would agree.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 13:46:45
QUOTE(Reggio_Emilia_Ton_Army @ Mar 14 2008, 01:34 PM) [snapback]419110[/snapback]
three bottles of lambrusco are the best in life.
what's brasso?

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sorry amigo-brasso is polish for metals like brass, and it used to be drunk in desperation by alcoholics who needed a 'buzz'.

The trouble with lambrusco is that it's too strong to drink like water and too weak to treat like a genuine alcoholic beverage!
mortonjag 2008-03-14 13:49:42
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 14 2008, 01:35 PM) [snapback]419111[/snapback]
So all the ones who are being paid by their parent clubs are gonna play! laugh.gif

It's their last chance on the catwalk-can't blame the poor c*nts.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 13:54:17
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 14 2008, 12:47 PM) [snapback]419087[/snapback]
Even if your personal beliefs denied the possibility of employment for others?

Of course it's very easy to be principled when you're not the victim of the consequences. wink.gif

I'm afraid that sometimes you have to put your own personal beliefs to one side if it is for the greater good.

What you're effectively saying is that Trump's proposal should be rejected for no reason other than who he is. I'm sorry, I can't agree with that.

Exactly and why don't we start with birching, and capital punishment?
mortonjag 2008-03-14 13:56:01
QUOTE(centralTON @ Mar 14 2008, 01:45 PM) [snapback]419117[/snapback]
Always with a smile. wink.gif

Of course!
mortonjag 2008-03-14 14:00:53
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 14 2008, 01:56 PM) [snapback]419127[/snapback]
Because I don't believe that is for the greater good.

Then I'll LEARN you------bend over----now this hurts me more than it hurts you-WALLOP....WALLOP...WALLOP...WALLOP...WALLOP...WALLOP, and next time I'll be SERIOUS-is that understood?

Now run off and be a good boy. Thinking's clearly not meant for you.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 14:04:31
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Mar 14 2008, 12:49 PM) [snapback]419089[/snapback]
Alderwood Road in Port Glasgow is mental - someone lifted my window wipers off my windscreen last night.

Mental!

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In Barrowfield your motor would have disappeared in five minutes.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 14:20:24
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 14 2008, 02:15 PM) [snapback]419137[/snapback]
I thought this was going to be a thread on art!!! How's about some Titian.

More Tumian I'd say Mr McArthur.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 14:24:55
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 14 2008, 02:12 PM) [snapback]419135[/snapback]
Forgive me for saying this MJ but you seem to have a real obsession with bottoms and spanking. Not that I'm judging you, each to their own.

Why do you beg forgiveness-yes I'm slightly obsessed with botties-particularly little pink ones, and if they're naughty little pink botties, they shall be skelped with an almighy skelping.

What other function do little pink botties serve-pray?
mortonjag 2008-03-14 14:28:48
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 14 2008, 02:18 PM) [snapback]419141[/snapback]
Yeah. ACAS have been involved and been trying to settle out of court and helping me out. I was actually claiming against two parties and one was settled a couple weeks back. This other lot seem determined not to pay out.

AHA-more to this than meets the eye!

Have ACAS advised you to 'take them to the cleaners'?
mortonjag 2008-03-14 14:41:30
QUOTE(Mr Toon @ Mar 14 2008, 02:34 PM) [snapback]419156[/snapback]
The only driver in recent years who could win more because of his driving than his car was Michael Schumacher. It's stating the obvious to say it will be between Maclaren and Ferrari again, but the better more reliable car will win!

Not sure about Hamilton; in motorsport terms he's had every possible advantage being Maclaren's blue-eyed boy for a number of year's now, although he certainly did well in his first F1 season albeit in the best car. Even then Kimi still beat him and that might have been his best chance for a while if the reports regarding the improvements at Ferrari this year are true.

More 'one season wonders' in F1 than in most other sports?

Time will tell-Hamilton did achieve a huge amount given his relative inexperience. I believe he's got that wee bit extra and expect it to show.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 14:44:37
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Mar 14 2008, 02:20 PM) [snapback]419145[/snapback]
I'm not so sure they'll go to the wall now, this game going ahead tomorrow buys the administrator a further week. At least one of the potential investors, after looking at the books which there is time to do now, will take over IMO. Loss making or not, I just have a feeling somebody is going to come in and give this shower a second chance!

This time next season I wouldn't be surprised if they are playing in Division Two.

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This is the calm before the storm. Gretna are goosed-plain and simple.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 14:51:06
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 14 2008, 02:45 PM) [snapback]419166[/snapback]
Yes. The woman asked what I would be looking for, I had no idea what to go for, so she explained how much I would generally get if it went to trial and, don't wanna mention numbers here, but it was a LOT more than I was expecting. So she went back to their lawyer with what I'd accept as a settlement. She was really surprised they never went for it as well.

On paper then you seem to have a good case but bear in mind those figures are still based on you winning. Clearly they DON'T feel it's cut and dried, or they'd have settled. Is it just in limbo now, or has your lady made another offer?
mortonjag 2008-03-14 14:55:28
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 14 2008, 02:48 PM) [snapback]419170[/snapback]
Is a pre-contract not just like a gentleman's agreement ? I don't think it's legally binding. So there would be no compensation to pay if he doesn't fulfill the agreement.

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A gentlemans' agreement Spurtle.

All agreements between two parties are binding in Scottish law.

I'd have expected YOU to know that.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 14:59:35
QUOTE(Mr Toon @ Mar 14 2008, 02:53 PM) [snapback]419175[/snapback]
Having read many of MJ's posts I was really worried when he offered an anagram for 'incongruent'............................................GRENUC TON.............what a relief!

No-no that was CONGRUENT


INCONGRUENT offers many more exciting possibilities!
mortonjag 2008-03-14 15:02:38
QUOTE(ian clinging @ Mar 14 2008, 02:56 PM) [snapback]419177[/snapback]
A pre-contract is precisely that! It isn't legally binding. Kenny Deuchar signed a pre-contract with us when he was at East Fife but Gretna came and signed him.

A contract is a contract. Pre contract is merely a term used to denote a less binding agreement-it does NOT imply that either party can just 'walk away'.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 15:07:33
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 14 2008, 03:00 PM) [snapback]419182[/snapback]
Nah. Going to court. Although all correspondance has to go to all parties so when their representatives send a letter to ACAS I also get sent it. So have just found out that their lawyer is no longer representing them.

Curiouser and curiouser.

You shouldn't be left with doubt-I'm puzzled by the expression 'their lawyer is no longer representing them'-what exactly does that mean. I'm beginning to wonder if you're fighting a pokey wee one man outfit!!!
mortonjag 2008-03-14 20:02:43
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 14 2008, 03:08 PM) [snapback]419189[/snapback]
Well I can't exactly say who it's against... but yer right smile.gif

OK-your chances have increased quite a bit I'd imagine. You have to hang your hat on the fact that ACAS have been involved, and put forward a suggestion which they've rejected. They're hoping you'll bottle it. Don't be surprised if you get an offer before the Tribunal date.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 20:23:15
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 14 2008, 03:17 PM) [snapback]419195[/snapback]
I'd agree with that. However, until he answers a lot of rather searching questions, whether or not he actually is a nice guy is up for debate. I am keeping an open mind on that until the full facts are revealed.

I'd agree with the last four words, as it will ensure we can sue him personally if need be.



It struck me from day one that Pony Tail was a contradiction. There are plenty of 'one off' millionaire benefactors doing the global rounds, but it was the HUGE personal agenda with a non viable proposition which set the alarm bells ringing for me. Mileson and Gretna FC became inseparable from cradle to grave. Now he's jumped ship, and the inevitable has happened.

It was totally CRAZY from the start, and the piece of s*** I've just cut and pasted typifies the bandwagon jumping of 'Living the Dream'. Irresponsible journalism? Maybe just 'media hype'!

The other distasteful aspect of Mileson's psyche is his palpable Del boy manipulative skill. His trotting out of stories of childhood poverty, injury, and chronic illness against which he valiantly battled are at total variance with his flouting of his third world diet plus 100 fags a day!

OK I've not met the man-that should probably put me at a disadvantage, but events seem to suggest the opposite.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 20:36:31
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 14 2008, 04:54 PM) [snapback]419225[/snapback]
Hamilton didn't impress me that much last season.
For all Alonso had the advantage of experience he too was starting at a new team - alonso's driving style is peculiar and the McLaren didn't understeer to suit his preferences.
The McLaren was both very competitive and reliable - hamilton should have won the championship from his strong position with two races left.
Raikkonene was also entering a new team, and once the Ferrari was developed to suit him, he was clearly the fastest driver and deservedly won the championship.
Hamilton and Kovaleinen don't have the experience to develop the car in testing - Schumacher became the dominant force because he delivered superb feedback during testing.

Admit it-you're Sir Jackie Stewart! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-14 20:39:01
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 14 2008, 07:02 PM) [snapback]419257[/snapback]
Not me. Maybe it was Bishop Devine. laugh.gif

Do all pufe haters wear fancy dress?
mortonjag 2008-03-14 20:40:47
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 14 2008, 07:55 PM) [snapback]419281[/snapback]
Getting scary now. blink.gif

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Have you been a naughty boy again?
mortonjag 2008-03-14 20:41:59
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 14 2008, 03:18 PM) [snapback]419198[/snapback]
indeed it is....

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mortonjag 2008-03-14 20:43:56
QUOTE(capitanus @ Mar 14 2008, 07:16 PM) [snapback]419263[/snapback]
Well i dont drink anymore. Last time i had a pint was at the Scotland vs. Italy game; the last alcohol i had was a glass of champagne at New Year. I dont eat fast foods etc. and have a good healthy breakfast, lunch, dinner and supper every day. Lots of vegetables, plenty of herbs and spices, grill or boil foods where possible, and if frying food use olive oil instead of cooking fat.

Its not exactly a health kick, just being sensible for a change. smile.gif

Have you stopped beating your partner? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-14 20:47:07
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 14 2008, 08:26 PM) [snapback]419299[/snapback]
No, but well done for getting the right answer biggrin.gif
In yer dreams, pal tongue.gif

You're not a sequins man then!
mortonjag 2008-03-14 20:48:21
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 14 2008, 05:55 PM) [snapback]419232[/snapback]
It's not your fault Jackie, she wasn't cute, blonde-haired, blue eyed, or from a middle-class family, so she only had limited media interest.

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mortonjag 2008-03-14 20:49:41
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 14 2008, 08:01 PM) [snapback]419282[/snapback]
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I'm not a class warrior, but I do think everyone deserves the same treatment irrespective of their background. tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-14 20:53:06
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 14 2008, 03:16 PM) [snapback]419194[/snapback]
Because their next game is at home to Celtic and they are hoping for a big gate.

To what end-it's only prolonging the agony and racking up the administration fees! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-14 20:54:29
QUOTE(Capuan @ Mar 14 2008, 04:26 PM) [snapback]419215[/snapback]
You should have included a "Mr Mileson will make a remarkable recovery which will baffle all known medical advice and will re-invest his recently won euro-millions jackpot win into the club" option.

Would have got my vote.
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Is he ill?
mortonjag 2008-03-14 20:58:27
QUOTE(Scapaflow @ Mar 14 2008, 04:13 PM) [snapback]419213[/snapback]
Going to hospitality with a few of us from work(some non Morton fans attending) so hopefully we can put on a show and a comfortable 3-1 would be nice. rolleyes.gif

Ask Shoogly if he still helps to pick the team!
mortonjag 2008-03-14 21:01:27
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Mar 14 2008, 08:18 PM) [snapback]419292[/snapback]
Christ Fleming hasn't played a game for us yet and people are slagging him. sad.gif

Is Christ Fleming our latest signing?
mortonjag 2008-03-14 21:03:45
QUOTE(SramTon @ Mar 14 2008, 08:35 PM) [snapback]419302[/snapback]
All agreements are binding??

So if I agree with my mate to go to the pub tomorrow night then change my mind, he can take me to court and get a judgment to make me go?

Mo Johnston agreed to sign for Celtic then signed instead for Rangers.
If "contract is a contract", then what's an "agreement"?

How can one type of "binding agreement" be less binding than another type of "binding agreement". If it's not binding then, erm, it's not a binding agreement.

In theory that is correct. The court would need to hear satisfactory evidence that the agreement had been made.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 21:07:06
QUOTE(Putonmatea @ Mar 14 2008, 08:59 PM) [snapback]419321[/snapback]
Mortonjag - Are you still blabbering on about pre-contracts being contracts? I thought we had sorted that one out and you were getting all tied up in sort ofs, maybes and wells... A PRE-CONTRACT is a PRE-CONTRACT agreement. Before Contract!!!!! It summarises the terms to be included in a CONTRACT when the CONTRACT is signed.

And in so doing rubber stamps the fact that an arrangement, agreement, understanding, contract, pact, or whatever else you care to call it exists IN LAW.

Run off now.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 21:11:16
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Mar 14 2008, 09:05 PM) [snapback]419324[/snapback]
Caravaggio - Hopefully enough flesh for Sean

Not a Botticelli?
mortonjag 2008-03-14 21:12:33
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 14 2008, 09:06 PM) [snapback]419325[/snapback]
No Tom, we have in fact established that you're a delusional auld fanny. rolleyes.gif

Is that worse than a demented old fud?
mortonjag 2008-03-14 21:14:39
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Mar 14 2008, 08:50 PM) [snapback]419315[/snapback]
Don't tell soapy Soutar.

Sapphism- no doubt even worse that the sin of Sodom. unsure.gif

I thought Spurtle disliked pufes!
mortonjag 2008-03-14 21:40:30 Mortonjag has just purchased a 'large' bag of chips from the traditional 'Tally' chip shop down the road.

It's a good wee shop, and is always busy . The problem is 'Mr Chips' looked me straight in the eye and asked for £1.90.

What with folk grumbling about the price of bus fares, bad service from GPs etc., is that a lot to pay for a couple of deep fried tatties?
mortonjag 2008-03-14 21:42:52
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 14 2008, 09:40 PM) [snapback]419342[/snapback]
Thanks for the 'near' offer - I think!

I would appreciate it if you could answer me one question on the old plumbing side - how do I know what shower I can buy for my house?

The hot water comes from an immerser in the bathroom (large bathroom), cold water mains into the bathroom.

Shower would probably be above the height of the immerser!

No brainer-thermostatic onto the incoming cold mains-easiest and most effective!
mortonjag 2008-03-14 21:45:40
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 14 2008, 09:17 PM) [snapback]419331[/snapback]
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I'd say that a delusional auld fanny is worse than a demented old fud, but that's just my opinion. tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-14 21:52:36
QUOTE(tontric @ Mar 14 2008, 09:17 PM) [snapback]419330[/snapback]
I can see you what you are saying... You would hope the new management team would get more out of the players than the previous manager, however if your previous manager left you with a squad lacking key elements then there is very little the new management team can do. If the players ain't good enough then a few months of coaching/direction ain't going to change much.

A few of our posters have consistently asserted that the current squad isn't up to this division.

The majority seemed to agree that we only needed three or four EXPERIENCED players to allow us to compete. Shoogly thought 'his boys' could do the trick.

I still believe the truth lies somewhere in the middle. We now have Jenkins, McGuffie, and Smith when fit. I DO believe we have MORE than enough to avoid the drop. If we don't I will certainly be blaming the management.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 21:54:44
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 14 2008, 09:21 PM) [snapback]419333[/snapback]
Aye cos you don't have the knackers to do it yourself wink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-14 21:59:06
QUOTE(SramTon @ Mar 14 2008, 09:33 PM) [snapback]419336[/snapback]
You're completely wrong MJ. sad.gif

The first thing the Court (Scottish or English) assess with regard to whether a "contract" exists is whether there was intention to enter into a contractual relationship. If there's no intent, there's no contract.

There's no such thing as a legal "agreement". It's the Law of Contract.

I am simply stating that an agreement between two parties is binding under Scottish law.

So far as I can see, 'agreement' per se indicates intention.

Indeed, if there's no 'intention', there's no agreement.

A pre-contract is an agreement. Neither party can just 'walk away'.

It is as simple as that.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 22:00:43
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 14 2008, 09:43 PM) [snapback]419344[/snapback]
Yes a pre contract represents some sort of agreement but the question is how binding is it? It merely sets out a promise from a player that he will join another club in exchange for a set of terms. Generally in contract law the wounded party has to show loss. If Chris Miller does not go to St Johnstone for say, £40k per annum and instead they sign say Gavin Skelton for similar money, for St Johnstone to claim a loss against Chris they would have to prove what they had lost out. Millar v Skelton? How can they do that? What measure is there to

1) Prove Millar a better player that Skelton?
2) Prove that he would have played so well for St J to cause them loss if he ain't there?

Thats virtually impossible. So yes, you have point about any kind of agreement in Scotland being theoretically enforceable but its more than just the existence of such an agreement, its proving that not fulfilling its terms caused loss and until he is a contracted St Johnstone player, thats almost impossible.

Its rather like the situation where an employee agrees to go to a new employer (possibly in writing) but then is persuaded to stay by his existing company. Theres nothing the potential new employer can do about it and it happens all the time!

Pay Chris more money I say!

As I've said, neither party can just walk away. There's MUCH more scope for negotiation, however, than with a full contract.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 22:04:02
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 14 2008, 10:00 PM) [snapback]419354[/snapback]
Is that the same as an electric shower? i.e. not a mixer or power shower?

It's not a 'mixer' as there's nothing to mix. If your cold water pressure's adequate a simple thermostatic
electric shower will probably suffice. I believe 'power' showers have a built in pump to increase the water pressure, and they will certainly give you a much more satisfactory flow.

Please check with a plumber though! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-14 22:08:16
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 14 2008, 10:06 PM) [snapback]419358[/snapback]
They will want to ensure Gretna keep going until next week as it will ensure both OF clubs have played them nd won't then interfere with the title race. After the split it won't make any difference to the outcome .

That makes a HUGE amount of sense-I'd imagine the SPL would have been willing to bribe ensure that happened.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 22:10:35
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 14 2008, 09:44 PM) [snapback]419345[/snapback]
You want to be watching your diet auld yin, you shouldn't be taking any chances at your age.

If you're feeling a bit peckish have an apple or a banana instead.

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Precisely the reason I didn't know the price. I rarely eat chips-my partner just had a sudden urge, and I know not to ignore her urges.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 22:13:15
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 14 2008, 09:54 PM) [snapback]419349[/snapback]
either you're a freak or you're not funny and i know u aint funny.

anyway, devine's comments were a disgrace and unfortunately very few within his organisation will take him to task.

cliche alert - but dress wearing virgins in their 60's who harp on about the evils of being gay, to my mind, are pretty insecure about certain aspects of their sexuality. i bet he really wants to dance about in an arseless leather smock to the wizard of oz.

Of course I'm a freak my child, and any more of your cheek and you'll be getting a good spanking on both.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 22:14:11
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Mar 14 2008, 10:06 PM) [snapback]419357[/snapback]
You seem to know a great deal about this. ohmy.gif

Each to their own.

Indeed-it sounds quite freakish TBH!
mortonjag 2008-03-14 22:16:54
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 14 2008, 10:13 PM) [snapback]419366[/snapback]
Eh.... how is pointing out the class bias of the media going to end up with me getting egg on my face? Irrespective of her background or the circumstances behind this wee lassie's abduction she deserved at least as much media attention as other abducted kids, and she didn't get it.

You really can be a total fanny at times Tom. rolleyes.gif

Is that what you'd have called her if she was the daughter of a multi millionaire?

Just wondering?
mortonjag 2008-03-14 22:18:53
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 14 2008, 10:13 PM) [snapback]419365[/snapback]
Aye cheers ya plamf!! I wiz trying

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Well DON'T try to get one out at 4 a.m. on Hogmanay unless you've been to the auto teller twice!
mortonjag 2008-03-14 22:20:43
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 14 2008, 09:39 PM) [snapback]419339[/snapback]
slightly off topic but my auntie margaret was a wren during ww2 and met that w*nker churchill at bagatelle in the west end. at one point during that conflict greenock was the busiest port in the world. where's our heritage centre?

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mortonjag 2008-03-14 22:22:04
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 14 2008, 10:19 PM) [snapback]419371[/snapback]
Aye, how? unsure.gif

I told you-can ye no' read?
mortonjag 2008-03-14 22:25:31
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 14 2008, 10:22 PM) [snapback]419375[/snapback]
whit?

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Just confused by your desire for 'heritage' and the use of a derogatory term for part of it.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 22:40:10
QUOTE(SramTon @ Mar 14 2008, 10:11 PM) [snapback]419363[/snapback]
MJ, whilst I appreciate your innate desire to hold the one true opinion on every subject under the sun, the simple fact here is that you are wrong.

An "agreement" is not a legally-binding contract unless certain conditions are met. Ergo, not all agreements are legally binding.

I gave the example of Mo Johnston earlier. You may recall that he publically agreed to join Celtic. I'm not suggesting that Millar is in the same boat - merely illustrating an agreement which had no legal effect.

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An 'agreement' is by definition a 'contract', and there's no need to be rude either.

The fact is that YOU are mistaken. There is no such thing as 'an agreement which has no legal effect'.

I suggest you do a wee bit of research before you 'knee jerk' back. I don't hold an opinion on this my child-I'm stating fact.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 22:52:23
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 14 2008, 10:27 PM) [snapback]419378[/snapback]
I can have the hot water at the shower as well as the cold - hence I could have a power shower - however not sure what the pressures need to be and how one actually measures the pressure!!!!!!!

Now you're confusing me. Are you replacing an existing and satisfactory shower? If so you just disconnect and re-connect the pipes to a more modern unit of the same type.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 22:55:07
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 14 2008, 10:33 PM) [snapback]419384[/snapback]
not clever, not funny. for more info see every thread you have ruined in the past year.

On this occasion smartarse you have failed to be clever or funny-which is nothing new.

I wish I could say I'm sorry that I ruin threads for you, but one sin I avoid is lying.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 22:58:13
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 14 2008, 10:27 PM) [snapback]419380[/snapback]
have you ever had a funny post?
not been in much mate. going to see w2 in connellys' 2moro

no-one thinks you're funny either. any more of your pish and my old man will crack you a dull yin....and he's 73

Don't be a silly boy-my monkey could probably knock your old man over with a feather.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 22:59:55
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 14 2008, 10:33 PM) [snapback]419385[/snapback]
That's out of order, they're not twats.

For future reference, Tom is a delusional auld fanny and MJ is a demented auld fud. tongue.gif

I hope this helps.

...and forza is the epitomy of incisive wit! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-14 23:11:31
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 14 2008, 11:05 PM) [snapback]419413[/snapback]
House doesn't have a shower - replacing the art deco 4 piece bathroom suite with a 3 piece modern bathroom suite along with a walk in shower.

First shower in 108 years! for the house that is!

In that case it's back to my original suggestion-by far the simplest way is just to 'tee' off the cold water mains.

You did describe the incoming cold water as 'mains', though in old properties bathrooms are frequently supplied from a header tank in the attic.

That's where a power shower can be used if the pressure's not adequate.
mortonjag 2008-03-14 23:16:17
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 14 2008, 11:08 PM) [snapback]419418[/snapback]
if it's nothing new why say "on this occasion"? halfwit.

you ruin threads for most on here. and that's the honest truth sad.gif

You are not quite as clever as you'd like to believe, nor for that matter have you any justification in speaking for the majority.

'It is nothing new'-it has occurred in the past, and AGAIN on this occasion.

I'm here to help! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-14 23:19:30
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 14 2008, 11:02 PM) [snapback]419411[/snapback]
funnier and smarter than you mate and i don't need 13,000 posts to prove it

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...and ever so modest with it.

Truth is son you simply ain't. Now off you pop.
mortonjag 2008-03-15 09:36:35
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 14 2008, 11:42 PM) [snapback]419437[/snapback]
once again you backtrack to cover up your crap and once again you spam a reasonable thread with pish.

stupid p***k

That's scintillating repartee from Inverclyde's answer to---well just about everything I guess. You have been awarded this week's coveted 'pink botty spank' in acknowledgement of your contribution to the world of arseholes. wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-15 09:40:09
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 15 2008, 01:12 AM) [snapback]419489[/snapback]
i take it all back. another masterpiece, bravo, mr banks. what an ending!

Even beats the neighbours shagging Mr Banks-BTW do yours?
mortonjag 2008-03-15 09:42:12
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 15 2008, 12:36 AM) [snapback]419460[/snapback]
Depends on the quality i'd say.
For £1.90 they'd either have to be city centre prices or not as greasy as the cheaper shops.

Good quality, and plenty of them.
mortonjag 2008-03-15 09:43:22
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 15 2008, 12:56 AM) [snapback]419479[/snapback]
someone puts up with you? ohmy.gif

although to be fair i think youre on here more than you're with her so really its us that have to put up with you tongue.gif

Oh indeed young man, and she's not old enough to be yer Mammy!
mortonjag 2008-03-15 09:44:54
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Mar 15 2008, 01:18 AM) [snapback]419492[/snapback]
Hmmm more whinging rolleyes.gif

Nope Gibby-I wasn't whinging-merely asking, which is different. I can still remember when you could get a wee poke of chips for 3d!
mortonjag 2008-03-15 09:48:06
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 15 2008, 08:25 AM) [snapback]419572[/snapback]
Where were they from MJ? Dellos in Burnside is arguably the best chipper on the sooside but ye'll get no change out of a tenner for two suppers. Just about everything's made fresh and the chips are never greasy.

Guido's in Coustonholm Road--traditional chippy with the wee sit in part for fish teas etc.

BTW I WASN'T moaning about the price-I haven't bought chips for donkeys' years, and was genuinely surprised.

£2 still seems a lot for chopping two spuds and flinging them in oil for 5 minutes!
mortonjag 2008-03-15 09:51:47
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 14 2008, 11:39 PM) [snapback]419435[/snapback]
it's hardly being conceited to say i'm funnier than you c***o. now away up the stairs and see if yer missus will let you jag her. you have a long day of posting ahead

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Jealousy will get you nowhere, and I didn't even have to climb stairs.

BTW you're not funny, except in a funny way-I was going to use the word 'queer' but I have to cater for all minority sensitivities-n'est ce pas Hercules.
mortonjag 2008-03-15 09:53:21
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 15 2008, 01:31 AM) [snapback]419503[/snapback]
blah blah blah. i don't answer the home phone, i'm trying to cut down the amount of time i spend on public transport, hopefully one day i'll be of independent means and not have to deal with people face to face. and i have to stop reading this stupid board.

talk about depressing. i am coming to terms with the fact that i really hate people. i really hate all of you. you make me feel sick.

and here's a pre-emptive f*** you for the most loathsome t*** i've ever come across online - f*** you, mentaljag.

you are more of a w*nker than i could ever tell you. f***ing tolstoy would have had to have spent 2 years of his life telling you why, so i won't bother.

what a f***ing dick.

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Good gracious!
mortonjag 2008-03-15 09:54:37
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 15 2008, 08:29 AM) [snapback]419573[/snapback]

And I'm sure it wasn't Trumpet but well spotted!
mortonjag 2008-03-15 09:58:10
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 15 2008, 08:29 AM) [snapback]419574[/snapback]
There's a long tradition of dispising the poor in the UK from the Cambridge Footlights to Little Britain. Any time the poor or 'working class' as they were called in my day attempt to 'own' a culture; football, music, fashion, cars, etc they have absolute derision poured on them from the metropolitan elites.

...who are now called the nouveau riche working class? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-15 09:59:46
QUOTE(Danger_Mouse @ Mar 15 2008, 08:45 AM) [snapback]419577[/snapback]
Hamilton got pole for tomorrows aussie GP. Kobica was 2nd fastest for BMW.

I hope Hamilton does well this season.

Looking forward to the night Grand Prix also the Bahrain Grand Prix. Went 2 years ago and loved every min of it and managed to stay sober for most of it although the apartments I was staying in sold stella at 80p a pint!

Talent will out!
mortonjag 2008-03-15 10:06:37 I expect LEAFY to score today.
mortonjag 2008-03-15 10:10:03
QUOTE(Lifelongfan @ Mar 15 2008, 02:22 AM) [snapback]419544[/snapback]
What an absoloutely ridiculous thing to say after 3 or 4 games (Your last sentence) Why do you talk such pi-h? Give the guys a chance with their own players next season - even if that is in the second division - it's not their fault that we may go down -Is it?

If they were signed TO KEEP US UP-it will most certainly be their fault-it's quite as simple as that.

That wouldn't necessarily make them bad managers, but would certainly indicate that they had overestimated their own ability.

Oh, and while I'm on, I NEVER 'talk pi-h'!
mortonjag 2008-03-15 10:20:43
QUOTE(SramTon @ Mar 15 2008, 12:20 AM) [snapback]419451[/snapback]
Oh, FFS.

I think I've worked out the problem, its the bit where you suggest I do a "wee bit of research".

I seem to have overdone it: Law at Uni, Post-grad/professional exams in law, working in the legal profession for seven years (which, incidentally, an emphasis on the Law of Contract), instructed and met a few top QC's iro contract law issues, read a few of their reports on contract law, etc etc.

But I'll defer to your superior knowledge of the apparent Law of Agreements, which must've been an integral part of your medical training.

Now will you stop arguing with me on this point and accept (just privately to yourself) that maybe, just maybe, even if only for the first time in your 16,000+ postings, you might be incorrect. smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif
(Edit: to change your no of posts - I had underestimated by 5,000!)

Oh dear, I suppose when I was a young medic I thought I knew it all as well. Your head is right up your arse on this for the simple reason that you are confusing the principle with a waffle of superfluous supposition.

The fact is that the VERY EXISTENCE of an agreement is 'a contract', and the fact, as I've stated repeatedly, is that neither party can just 'walk away' from a 'pre-contract agreement'.

That has always been my understanding, and has been confirmed by one of my sons who has a first class Honours Law degree from a proper University.

Now why don't you remove your head from your arse, and just admit that Mortonjag, as always, is correct? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-15 10:23:40
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 15 2008, 12:32 AM) [snapback]419455[/snapback]
I always found that about Doctor clients. Six years to qualify as a Chartered Accountant was always rendered as nothing by the Doctors superior knowledge of accountancy brought about by a week's training in the commercial aspects of running a medical practice!!

Still they were useful when I had an ingrown toenail rolleyes.gif!

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I guess the ones who end up pulling out toenails for a living probably do tend to go bust! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-15 10:24:45
QUOTE(ton1901 @ Mar 15 2008, 01:44 AM) [snapback]419516[/snapback]
have u even done law? a contract is only binding wen it has been signed on paper, ye there is a gentlemans agreement but prove it happened! he can get out it

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mortonjag 2008-03-15 10:27:52
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 15 2008, 07:34 AM) [snapback]419564[/snapback]
Similarly with surveyors where because they've had the gutters cleaned and the roof repaitred on their surgery, they are experts in construction.

MJ seems to be an expert on just about everything fronm medicine to law to accountancy to running a business to running a football team. I wish I was so talented and gifted.

MJ has indeed many talents Ratarse-aren't you proud to have such a well educated and informed fellow poster?

Interestingly, it seems extremely unusual for Mortonjag to be proven wrong, though I've no doubt that you and your satellites will manage to dredge a few gaffes from my small accumulation of postings! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-15 11:19:45
QUOTE(Putonmatea @ Mar 15 2008, 07:40 AM) [snapback]419566[/snapback]
MJ - Either party can effectively walk away. As I said before a pre-contract is a summary of the agreements to be entered into THE CONTRACT when it is presented for execution. There may be clauses inserted into THE CONTRACT which do not form part of the pre-contract agreement and at that stage the legal team representing either party will either agree or disagree with these clauses with further negotions being required to reach final agreement.
Pre-contract agreements are intended to iron out the main points early on after the initial discussions to allow the contract to be signed much faster at a later date. (Because the main details to be included in the Contract have already been agreed). The Pre-Contract would then be incorporated into the Contract as a numbered document. (IE part of the Contract Agreement).

Although not a lawer I have significant dealings with Contracts and Pre-Contracts and from experience Pre-Contracts are pretty much a waste of paper without the Contract being in place. I`ve seen numerous people walk away from Pre-Contracts but not from a Contract.

Pre-Contracts are (Like the Clyde on a particularly overcast and rainy day) a sea of gray!

Precisely and that is where you and your fellow 'lawyers' either can't see the wood for trees, or are just being deliberately obtuse.

It is the VERY EXISTENCE of the interaction which makes it potentially sub judice. In the Millar situation, for example, both parties could mutually agree to 'forget it'. Alternatively they could thrash out an amicable settlement without the need for third party intervention. Neither party could just 'WALK AWAY'-that is ALL I've ever stated or implied, and THAT IS THE FACT OF THE MATTER.



mortonjag 2008-03-15 11:29:07
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 15 2008, 10:37 AM) [snapback]419607[/snapback]
the only posts of yours that are never wrong are your poems. tongue.gif

its a shame that you're the one thats good at poems and not someone else, because s***ebag rhymes perfectly with Mortonjag. sad.gif

Nonsense one is bi-syllabic, and the other tri-syllabic.

A petulant poster called port-ton
Whose dick had a horrible wart on
Went down to the Doc
For some work on his c*ck
And now he's tattooed it with 'Morton'.
mortonjag 2008-03-15 11:43:07
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 15 2008, 10:38 AM) [snapback]419608[/snapback]
Do you mean instead of being ruled by one imperialist nation, we could have been ruled by another ? rolleyes.gif

Spurtle, if I'm not very much mistaken, Bawheid and Hitler have many distinct similarities.

It's typical of your generation to lower the huge significance of beating the Reich to the level of daft wee boys parading around Holyrood in tartan skirts and cloud cuckoo land.
mortonjag 2008-03-15 11:46:20
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 15 2008, 10:40 AM) [snapback]419609[/snapback]
Don't get too exited MJ or you could give yourself a Subdural hematoma laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-15 11:48:09
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 15 2008, 11:10 AM) [snapback]419616[/snapback]
Out with fuel pressure problems?

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mortonjag 2008-03-15 11:49:48
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 15 2008, 10:16 AM) [snapback]419595[/snapback]
ohmy.gif how did Fergusons survive selling Ships for such a small price?

They didn't-that was ultimately the problem! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-15 11:50:29
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 15 2008, 10:21 AM) [snapback]419600[/snapback]
Grandmother? tongue.gif

Mammy-that was the term I used!
mortonjag 2008-03-15 11:54:13
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Mar 15 2008, 11:35 AM) [snapback]419625[/snapback]
Glad that she's turned up alive.

It's an interesting idea about the lack of coverage this has had. I would tend to agree that a lot of it was class based - the mother didn't make good tv in the way that Mrs McCann did.

But I was talking to a journalist mate, who felt that his profession had been burnt quite badly by the McCann shenanigans. He also said that the early signs in this case suggested that the family may have been involved, and journalists didn't want to take the risk of being turned over again. Out of interest, is the guy who's been arrested the same bloke who was taken in for questioning when Shannon first went missing?

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mortonjag 2008-03-15 12:10:17
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 15 2008, 11:58 AM) [snapback]419638[/snapback]
Spot on LL. I agree 100%, great post.

'You get the media you deserve' is an old cliché but it's probably true nevertheless. It's easy to blame the media, but at the end of the day they would argue that they simply publish and broadcast what the general public want to read and watch.

So do the media dictate the level of interest or do they simply reflect it? I don't know, probably a bit of both, but as well as criticising the media we should also take a look at ourselves as a society and ask as to why these underclasses exist in the first place, and why we allow them to be discriminated against in this way.

Of course some people pretend that this doesn't happen and everything is just fine and dandy. rolleyes.gif

The McCann case was orchestrated by the influential parents who had a vested interest-exactly what is still unclear.

I'm not sure that undue publicity ever helps in those situations.That being the case, it can be argued that the press discriminate against higher profile families.


mortonjag 2008-03-15 12:12:40
QUOTE(capitanus @ Mar 15 2008, 12:06 PM) [snapback]419643[/snapback]
About £1.90 seems a fair price. An ordinary portion would cost around £1.20-£1.30, a Roll'n'Chips would be around £1.00.

Never grudge paying good money for good food, after all it is the fuel for the body.

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TY, I'd hate to feel I'd been ripped off, especially as they do seem to provide a good service and are popular locally.
mortonjag 2008-03-15 12:17:08
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 15 2008, 12:09 PM) [snapback]419645[/snapback]
The 2nd division would work the same way. Division Three winners would still go up.... 9th place would be spared the play offs, so 10th place would play off against 2nd/3rd/4th. It would leave 9 teams in Division Three, which opens up invitations to any team wanting in.

I think that's how it work anyway unsure.gif

In our case it could be argued it's simply a case of 'what goes round comes round' but in general I agree that it seems very unfair.

Gretna's penchant for well and truly f*cking Scottish football continues.
mortonjag 2008-03-15 12:19:06
QUOTE(capitanus @ Mar 15 2008, 12:16 PM) [snapback]419648[/snapback]
In the greater scheme of things, £1.90 is mere bawbees to you and your super-duper quacks pension.

Running a chippy is a brilliant business, you've always got a queue of people giving you no less than a fiver for something that costs relatively little to make.

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If only!
mortonjag 2008-03-15 12:25:11
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 15 2008, 12:22 PM) [snapback]419651[/snapback]
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i see you had to include yourself on doing the work on my c*ck. mellow.gif

The wart has been added to my collection of oddities, severed heads and limbs, and the picture of Aunt Matilda with the brown moustache.
mortonjag 2008-03-15 12:28:06
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 15 2008, 12:24 PM) [snapback]419653[/snapback]
you said she wasnt old enough to be my mammy, meaning most likely her eggs had turned to dust by the time i was born sad.gif

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...just meaning what I said! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-15 12:51:06
QUOTE(SramTon @ Mar 15 2008, 12:24 PM) [snapback]419652[/snapback]
So you thought you knew it all when you were a young medic? What happened in your later life to bring about such a change in personality? rolleyes.gif

Some quotes from the first law book to hand:

"A contract is an agreement which the law will enforce [...] Thus a contract is a legally binging agreement [...] All contracts are agreements but not all agreements are contracts."

The last five words are the important ones.

Five words stating a simple fact/principle and a distinct lack of "superfluous supposition". smile.gif

Which of us is up our own arse? Fancy a poll? smile.gif

Firstly, would you like to reveal your legal qualifications. Not that I doubt your honesty, but my son would like to know.

No amount of dredging through tomes of legal theory will ever alter the fact that an agreement between two parties in Scotland is legally enforceable, and a pre contract agreement is by definition an agreement.

I have never said that the terms 'agreement' and 'contract' are mutually interchangeable-I've merely set out the principle which applies in general, and that principle is immutable.

Two parties cannot form an agreement, only for one to walk away with impunity. That contravenes natural justice AND Scottish law.
mortonjag 2008-03-15 12:52:04
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 15 2008, 12:38 PM) [snapback]419660[/snapback]
speaking of going off topic, where's Weegieton dissapeared to lately?

I've missed him too. I think he normally posted from work-maybe he's not got computer access at the moment.
mortonjag 2008-03-15 12:56:15
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Mar 15 2008, 12:54 PM) [snapback]419668[/snapback]
Of course they can, it happens every day of the week. No doubt Gretna thought they had an agreement with Brooks Mileson. Did them a lot of good though didn't it? tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-15 13:05:06
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 15 2008, 12:55 PM) [snapback]419669[/snapback]
The Celtic Game is probably one where they can reasonably expect more or less a capacity crowd - say at least 12000. Assuming that the average gate take (bearing in my they are all paying as season tickets are negligible) is around £12 allowing for concessions and VAT, thats £144,000 in the pot plus income from catering etc. say £150k overall. Thats more than enough to cover this weeks £30k. Next week's wages will be greatly reduced = probably not much more than £10-12k so there's every reason for the administrator to go for it! It also means that there is a pot of money to pay the administrator's fees out of trading leaving such assets as the club may have for creditors.

That's the point.

I can understand that from the financial aspect. Gretna are to be kept going till after the Celtic game and will then be liquidated.

The palpable artificiality of the whole situation raises other questions, not least about the fairness of points awarded to Aberdeen and Celtic-who must inevitably win.

If Gretna's staff depletion was caused by illness, they would legitimately be requesting postponements.

The whole thing's become a farce. I believe they should have been closed down this week.
mortonjag 2008-03-15 13:07:47
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 15 2008, 12:58 PM) [snapback]419672[/snapback]
We should all chip in to buy him a computer, i feel naked without him. Unforunately i normally wake up drugged and naked with him looking over me breathing heavily though.

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I'll pm him later and hopefully we'll discover he's still alive and kicking!
mortonjag 2008-03-15 13:09:23
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 15 2008, 12:36 PM) [snapback]419658[/snapback]
I would say you are mistaken blink.gif

All I said was we could be ruled from Berlin rather than London. Either way we are still ruled by another country.

Since when did London become a country?
mortonjag 2008-03-15 13:16:03
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 15 2008, 01:13 PM) [snapback]419680[/snapback]
Can't disagree with the sentiments at all. Artificiality has been my major issue with Gretna since day one and, like you, I got told I was just jealous!

The administrator though has no room for sentiment, only hard figures and it makes absolute financial sense for him to get to the Celtic game, even if its a total nonsense in football terms and will make an even bigger joke of the Scottish game.

What goes around comes around though and if we do (as seems increasingly likely) end up second bottom as a club who suffered more than most from Gretna's SPL based second division team, there is poetic justice that we end up being saved from the playoffs either by their demise or relegation straight to the second or third division.

Tinged with a modicum of irony, if you'll pardon the dreadful pun! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-15 13:23:09
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 15 2008, 12:57 PM) [snapback]419671[/snapback]
If only midton was the vet , he would have perscribed a long soak in salt water to ease our pain .

I was slightly confused by the reason given-surely if it's so easy to catch his tail in a door at Cappielow, Shoogly's nose would have been amputated long ago.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 10:51:57
QUOTE(SramTon @ Mar 15 2008, 08:43 PM) [snapback]419912[/snapback]
For there to be a legally enforceable contract there must be: consensus in idem, consent to contract, capacity to contract, and the contract must not be prohibited by law.

If I agree to go to the pub with my mates then later decide to go elsewhere I cannot be sued. We had an agreement, but clearly no consent that it should be legally binding.

If a 5 year old agrees to sell his X-box to his teacher for a packet of crisps, then again this agreement is not legally binding.

If I agree to rob a bank then change my mind, that agreement cannot be legally enforced.

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As I suspected you have no legal qualifications.Thank you for deliberately attempting to steal an advantage.

My son- you know- the one who supports Morton after Rangers (and is therefore clearly mad), but just happens to have a FIRST CLASS HONOURS DEGREE in Law from a proper university confirms that you are talking complete nonsense.

The term 'agreement' incorporates the understanding that both parties are CAPABLE of making the said arrangement. If, for example, one 'consenting' party was not of sound mind, that would not only be seen in Law, but also by the 'average' person, as a 'non' agreement.

To get back to my original point-agreements are enforceable under Scottish law.

I don't intend to sue you for attempting to deceiptfuly discredit me, and I, incidentally, also 'studied law' at university-also a proper one.

If I happen to see that celebrated QC-Mr Findlay around the Hampden area today, I shall certainly be instructing him-




TO F*CK OFF! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-16 10:55:51
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 16 2008, 12:11 AM) [snapback]420007[/snapback]
why bother arguing with him? he might only be a retired quack with an ego inversely proportional to the size of his tadger, but his close family members cover all known and some probably unknown fields of expertise, many more ethnic and religious backgrounds than you could find on earth and even *gasp* homosexuality. mentaljag comes from a deprived working class background (his old man was a ragged-trousered teacher, back in the days when they were paid in flour and butter and accepted the sneers of homeless navvies as their rightful due) and his son - not the gay pakistani lawyer, the celibate hindu guru dude i'm talking about now - is a multi-gazillionaire who employs bill gates as his gardener, which, incidentally, is where mj gets his encyclopaedic knowledge of botany and geology.

so just you be quiet, sonny. next he'll be accusing you of getting your degree from some shoddy institution like glasgow or edinburgh, and that'll be you crushed.

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mortonjag 2008-03-16 10:59:13
QUOTE(barry lavety is a fat junkie @ Mar 16 2008, 03:19 AM) [snapback]420047[/snapback]
Oh really?
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mortonjag 2008-03-16 11:11:41
QUOTE(SramTon @ Mar 16 2008, 01:21 AM) [snapback]420042[/snapback]
Close:
No mention yet of the irovy tower. I wait with baited breath. smile.gif

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Normally spelled 'ivory', and 'bated'.

I wouldn't pull up the average poster for a 'typo', but from such a distinguished law man as yourself, it's a tad poor, don't you think?

No mention yet of your actual legal qualifications either you impostor. rolleyes.gif

The whole thread has been 'hi-jacked' by clowns who are happy to have their jealous dig at the poor old 'jag', and have deliberately tried to confuse principle with semantics.

In (Scottish) law, either party can seek remedy for a broken 'agreement'-even if that was simply to deliver goods at a pre-arranged time. It's common sense, and it's just, and the Law is about justice.

Are you willing to concede that, or will you just dig yourself in deeper along with your pathetic associates on this thread? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-16 11:17:28
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 15 2008, 07:40 PM) [snapback]419859[/snapback]
Hot and cold water are now isolated to the bathroom and the art deco 4 piece bathroom suite has now been removed - bring on tomorrow!

Good luck!
mortonjag 2008-03-16 11:19:15
QUOTE(leyTON @ Mar 16 2008, 11:17 AM) [snapback]420134[/snapback]

As said-talent will out!
mortonjag 2008-03-16 11:22:06
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 15 2008, 12:36 PM) [snapback]419659[/snapback]
ach, i was only joking. anyway, i think all my friends are assholes too so try to take the above post in the spirit it was meant.

i am going through a bit of a misanthropic phase at the minute, right enough. i think i should get the f*** out of glasgow before it turns permanent.

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Well you can't really guarantee that until it passes off. You clearly do have some issues. Why not consult your doctor? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-16 11:24:57
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 15 2008, 07:58 PM) [snapback]419879[/snapback]
my mate was complaining the other day about how little he earned and everybody was earning much more than him and it wisnae fair etc. he cheered up a fair bit when i told him what i earned. in fact he was sounding fairly f***ing chipper by the end of the phone call.

How EXTREMELY interesting, if slightly confusing.

Surely a man of your IMMENSE intellect should be earning a decent income. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-16 11:29:21
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 16 2008, 08:54 AM) [snapback]420073[/snapback]
a figurehead that's all.

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ps hitler could have taken britain in 1941

? ? ? ?

forza ton, are you able to read ??

or are you just not numerate ?

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Forza is actually quite good at letters and numbers.He just likes being a naughty boy. I'm sure Mr Churchill would have known exactly how to deal with him.

Newt-have you ever had a red hot cigar rammed up your arse?
mortonjag 2008-03-16 11:33:37
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Mar 16 2008, 11:26 AM) [snapback]420150[/snapback]
i wouldn't prefer anyone behind me on a battlefield, i would prefer them to be in front of me wink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-16 11:36:09
QUOTE(se65an @ Mar 15 2008, 08:13 PM) [snapback]419891[/snapback]
Watch what you post on this board from now till the end of the season as you never know who is reading it.
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OK Standman, Donga, LaS.. you have been warned

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I have been duly warned!
mortonjag 2008-03-16 11:39:50
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Mar 16 2008, 11:14 AM) [snapback]420132[/snapback]
why don't you two take this to pm's instead of all ths public knob-jousting, ruining threads for everyone else, as per.

Why is informing my fellow posters of fact 'public knob-jousting, and ruining threads' Donga?

Many posters wanted to know the implications of the Chris Millar issue, and the implications are quite simple.

An agreement has been made, and neither party can just walk away.That is all I have ever stated, and that is CORRECT!
mortonjag 2008-03-16 11:49:02
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 15 2008, 06:49 PM) [snapback]419802[/snapback]
even by the tele's dire standards that is one real non-story

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Were they lying?
mortonjag 2008-03-16 12:03:24
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 15 2008, 10:18 PM) [snapback]419957[/snapback]
I have said before that the calamity brothers have had their chance but what can Irons really do until he has a chance to change personnel .

I've stated that DI/DC will have failed if we don't avoid the drop, and I stand by that, but one incident in the first half yesterday highlighted the problems they have inherited.

Jenkins picked up a ball in midfield, before pushing an absolutely immaculately weighted pass forward for Finlayson, who totally squandered a gilt edged opportunity to cut the ball across goal. Not Finlayson's fault, but a competent right winger would have done much better.

I'm also surprised to hear David McGregor as somebody's MOTM. He 's not a full back and never will be at this level.

JM's legacy lives on.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 12:06:36
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 15 2008, 07:52 PM) [snapback]419870[/snapback]
Home support has been getting poorer game by game - - - is it any wonder?

Well I suppose some of us thought that the signing of our all new management team who are going to be here 'for a long time to come' might have sparked a wee bit more enthusiasm.

Maybe folk aren't that daft Shoogly.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 12:09:16
QUOTE(Muz @ Mar 15 2008, 05:17 PM) [snapback]419739[/snapback]
Mortonjag is a helmet.

DI/DC have nothing to work with. Obvious from that today.

I cannot stand helmets. Mortonjag is a helmet.

So you agree that they have misjudged their capabilities?
mortonjag 2008-03-16 12:12:18
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 15 2008, 06:15 PM) [snapback]419764[/snapback]
Thistle should have scored when one of their players missed an open goal from 8 yards with no one near him. It was almost a tap in. But he managed to miss the ball blink.gif

Morton were absolute rank rotten in the first half. Really terrible.

In the second half McGuffie, Wake and Russell and came on we started to play. We rattled Thistle an became the most dominant team.
Thistle seemed happy with the draw. but we should have taken 3 points with the penalty.
Keeper made a decent save when he guessed right. McGuffie hit it well enough.

Thistle were well ahead in the first. I was behind McColl and watching his body language and interactions. He wanted to kill the game off early, cos they have a big cup tie midweek. It was obvious he had settled for a draw by midway through the second half.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 12:23:46
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 15 2008, 10:59 PM) [snapback]419988[/snapback]
Irons is a decent coach but he isin't a magician . For those (myself incuded ) who openly criticised almost every aspect of JM reign how are you going to turn that round within 4 weeks .

Irons will have limited influence with that squad , we simply don't have the quality in the correct areas .

Obviously we are all disappointed not to have won , missing another penalty shows the pressure of the situation . We were pretty gash 1st half , only Millar had 2 decent crosses but Thistle were far better .
We could all see we improved in the second . A clean sheet is a consolation if not a welcomed suprise .

Clyde had a big chance to get ahead of us and failed so the pressure is on all 3 teams vying to avoid the play off spot .

As Shoogly said Chris-sadly this is a results driven business.

I've been conscious of a better and healthier attitude all round since DI arrived, and his passion is undoubted (you might almost say OTT at times) but we still aint getting the results. No amount of good coaching GUARANTEES anything on match days.

I DON'T understand Robinson in goal-especially when Smith's steadying influence is missing-I DON'T understand Davie McGregor played at full back ahead of Alex Walker, I DON'T understand Jamie yet again played out of position, and I DON'T understand Wake favoured ahead of Graham.

I'm beginning to form the distinct impression that DI is at best average in the tactics and awareness departments, and no amount of jumping up and down, gesticulating, and shouting can make up for that.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 12:28:03
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 16 2008, 08:20 AM) [snapback]420067[/snapback]
Disagree completely. Yes they dominated the first half and should've scored but their play was as rotten as ours, only we didn't have the confidence and self belief required to get out our own half. It was 45 minutes of head tennis. The shed could've been renamed Murray Mound. Strawberries & cream anyone?

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Agreed Ratarse-Thistle were just better organised sh*te. You'd have to pity any neutral who paid to be entertained yesterday.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 12:35:07 Penalties are lotteries-I don't know why.

I'd tend to trust Jamie Stevenson most if my life depended on it.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 12:41:19
QUOTE(centralTON @ Mar 16 2008, 12:48 AM) [snapback]420022[/snapback]
Scram, I think, we give Jamie more credit than he deserves, he was at best, less than ordinary today. I am starting to think that the chairman would prefer us to be playing in the 2nd div next season.

I wondered that from the minute he tried to hang on to JM.

Worrying times.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 12:44:02
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 16 2008, 11:11 AM) [snapback]420126[/snapback]
i thought the fans although getting on the players backs yesterday, were different to how they were under JM.

under JM the fans would abuse and boo the players because of the general feeling of apathy and that disenchantment at the club.

yesterday i felt the boos etc were out of passion and wanting the team to do better, the fans wanted to support the players but they gave us absolutely nothing in the first half, which lead to frustration.

there were a lot more shouts of things like " C'mon Morton " when things were going bad yesterday rather than " Morton you're s***e, get to f*** Mcinally! "

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mortonjag 2008-03-16 12:46:26
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Mar 16 2008, 11:25 AM) [snapback]420145[/snapback]
"Impotent"

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mortonjag 2008-03-16 12:53:27 LEAFY will come good.

I can't understand the fickleness of some posters-against Clyde Robinson took dogs' abuse because he was deceived by the wind and fellow defenders. Yesterday he chose to punch clear on three separate occasions when he should have collected the ball comfortably. On at least one a Partick attacker should have picked up and rattled the ball past him-simple basic errors-and NO excuse IMO.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 12:56:55
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Mar 16 2008, 11:06 AM) [snapback]420121[/snapback]
jag, gonnae reply to the posts in one reply, please?

Hey you- I've told you before I can't get the hang of it. Sometimes I can be VERY thick.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 13:01:12
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 16 2008, 11:25 AM) [snapback]420146[/snapback]
Guy came with me yesterday to his first ever Morton game. Was at work that morning and felt like doing something and knew I was going. Got a scarf outside and in we went.

First half he felt was poor but by the end of the game he was really getting into it and admitted he had had a lot more fun than he expected and will probably return when he can make it.

He did point out that Harding isn't that good and we punt the ball far too much. He also predicted the penalty being missed simply by the run up.

Was that just his opinion?
mortonjag 2008-03-16 13:03:34
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 16 2008, 11:30 AM) [snapback]420154[/snapback]
i agree about that penalty, ive never seen anyone score a penalty where they walk backwards and then just turn, run and shoot.

it is one of my pet hates in football. what ever happened to pick a corner, give the keeper the eyes and send the keeper the wrong way? sad.gif

Agreed. I thought McGuffie looked nervous as the keeper fannied about wasting time (not helped by that clot Finnie), and the minute he swivelled to shoot I just knew he'd miss. A total 'hit and hope' if ever I saw one.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 13:06:20
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 16 2008, 10:28 AM) [snapback]420095[/snapback]
They rarely seem to play well at the same time. One game it'll be Greacen that's carrying the defence and playing out of his skin, then the next game it'll be roles reversed and Harding producing the heroics.

We'll be fine IF they can start turning in consistent performances.

Big Stu was OK yesterday and Hardy was poor-I've often seen the opposite and agree with your take-they just can't play together.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 13:10:59
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 16 2008, 12:26 PM) [snapback]420190[/snapback]
we've had 5 points from what? 6 games. that is much improved results than before.

we won our first game in god knows how long.

we kept our first clean sheet since october and our first home clean sheet of the season.

we're making steady progress, which is all that can be expected when your players aren't good enough.

Well we're NOT going backwards, though nobody appears to have mentioned that Alan Moore did us a huge favour yesterday.Stirling could still overtake us in theory, and I'm NOT impressed by two points out of six in the last two fixtures. I'd have settled for four-BARE MINIMUM.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 13:17:12 Jamie seems a complicated character. At Alloa he was given the responsibility of running the show from midfield, and he was often stunning, even if it WAS just the 'second'.

JM never got the best out of him, and what confidence he had seemed to drain away.

Now we have our super new management team, who haven't even felt he's good enough for a guaranteed slot, and the boy continues to be 'messed about' IMHO.

I'm not saying it's entirely one sided, but if DI can't get the best out of Jamie either, somebody else will. His ability is unquestionable.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 13:26:24
QUOTE(ton1901 @ Mar 16 2008, 12:30 PM) [snapback]420194[/snapback]
He had a great game yesterday and right now prob our first choice defender, on form anyway, the now so stop moaning bout him. He puts in 100% and is alot better on the ball than the other 2.

I'm NOT moaning about Davie. I've been one of his staunchest supporters for several seasons, and have always admired his attitude and professionalism.

The fact is emerging, however, that Davie is a good all rounder and is not particularly great at anything. He doesn't have the pace to play against tricky wingers, and he hasn't the height required of a central defender.

I suspect he might just find a slot in midfield at first division level, but I'm not convinced-given that JM's squad is almost ALL bloody midfielders, what chance has he right now?

A final point-one of David's strengths AND weaknesses is his tackling-when he times it properly (as he did on several occasions yesterday) he can be 'a rock'. Unfortunately he is guilty of frequent unforced errors, and those have proved costly in the past.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 13:31:48
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Mar 16 2008, 01:11 PM) [snapback]420215[/snapback]
As long as they both don't get time to think what to do I think they tend to do ok. Yesterday I don't think either of them lost a ball in the air, and I counted 3 great tackles or blocks from Greacen. Harding frustrates me in that 1 minute he'll play a long pass into the shed, next minute he'll play a raking 70 yarder right into feet. What's that all about?

I would happily see both leave in the summer, but the fact is that yesterday was our first clean sheet at home in the league this season and it was as much down to those 2, and of course David MacGregor, than anything else

Confidence.

He can drop the ball on a sixpence from 70 yards as you say. Hardy was more confident when he arrived from Livvy than he is now. Something not right there-eh?
mortonjag 2008-03-16 13:33:47
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 16 2008, 01:17 PM) [snapback]420218[/snapback]
Both our stats and Livvy's are influenced heavily by the games between us at Almondvale where over both games the aggregate score was 10-1. If you knock those figures out of both teams stats you get

Morton F 29 A 42 GD -13

Livvy F 35 A 52 GD -17

Which I think goes to prove that Livvy have been just as Sh1t against the rest of the league as we have.

The worrying thing is that Livvy have been the only team to really crush us this season and they come to Cappielow next week knowing they can do that to us! We will need to get a grip of that game and score first to equalise the confidence thing.

....or that our defence can't cope with their style?
mortonjag 2008-03-16 13:37:18
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Mar 16 2008, 01:24 PM) [snapback]420222[/snapback]
When he can be bothered

Correct-Mr Maitland seemed to be able to get him 'bothered'.

Pity others can't do the same.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 13:39:32
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 16 2008, 01:32 PM) [snapback]420230[/snapback]
QoS away.

Livvy away too



LEAFY
mortonjag 2008-03-16 13:42:14
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Mar 16 2008, 11:40 AM) [snapback]420161[/snapback]
094788 it was indeed.

£424.50

Was a Cowshed/Sinclair St ticket as my mate had the number before it. sad.gif

I always read it out 3-4 times at half time in case someone was in for a jobby and didn't hear it!

Jobby Scotia? wink.gif

I've noticed that the prize money usually reflects the crowd pretty well, but yesterday it was disproportionately high.

Jags fans appear to be bigger chancers than average.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 13:45:19
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 16 2008, 01:40 PM) [snapback]420240[/snapback]
we managed to get him bothered against the likes of Alloa and Forfar aswell, the same as we did.

he single handedly kept Alloa up, but by beating the teams around them.....basically pish.

he could have gone on to great things but my guess is that he's just going to be another one of football's wasters.

I can honestly say I've NEVER seen Jamie take control of any game for us as he used to do regularly at Alloa.

The boy's still in his early twenties, and my guess is that he'll prove you quite wrong!
mortonjag 2008-03-16 13:51:55
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Mar 16 2008, 01:48 PM) [snapback]420250[/snapback]
Weatherson is better than them all, and Templeman has proved time and again that he is

NOT FIRST DIVISION STANDARD

Statisticians as a breed are sad, anally retentive b*stards.

I make no apology for that comment, given the current unwarranted abuse of my own profession by some folk who should know better, and by others who don't.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 14:18:16
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 16 2008, 01:56 PM) [snapback]420255[/snapback]
Big fish in a small pond and all that. He cant handle expectations, either because he's not able to or because he doesnt want to.

people say that some players dont fit into teams because they're luxury players, but im a firm believer that its the bad players that are the luxury players, but Stevenson is the only exception to the rule that i know of.

And do you include in 'isn't able to' the effects of other variables?
mortonjag 2008-03-16 14:20:29
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 16 2008, 02:03 PM) [snapback]420258[/snapback]
weatherson either has days where the ball sticks to his feet and everythin comes of and all his lay offs are perfect. then he has days like yesterday where he has a touch of an elephant and he passes the ball to the other team just about every time.

its no crime to have a bad game, everyone has them but that doesnt mean he shouldnt be replaced if he is, even if the only option is Brian Wake.

Khali did score five or six for Hamilton-he hasn't showed any real skill yet, but he's clearly not useless.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 14:26:20
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 15 2008, 11:49 PM) [snapback]419999[/snapback]
only in america my arse. some wee lassie got four years the other week for running over and killing a cyclist after phone records showed she was texting at the time of the accident. not much fuss was caused by the fact that the guy on the bike had sailed through a red light in front of her car, right enough.

I inherently sense a trap, but I agree wholeheartedly with those sentiments, even if the cyclist was dyslexic and colour blind.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 14:28:55
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 16 2008, 12:09 PM) [snapback]420178[/snapback]
i never know what you're on about. are you a real person or just some virus?

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He is indeed a real person. I understand him perfectly. Perhaps you are the infection?
mortonjag 2008-03-16 14:29:50
QUOTE(Edinton @ Mar 16 2008, 12:50 PM) [snapback]420204[/snapback]
I'll tell you this for free, Churchill's new advert's are certainly pish

Royal Bank of Scotland IS pish.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 14:36:11
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 16 2008, 01:44 PM) [snapback]420246[/snapback]
I don't know if he's a fraud but he's always seemed like a bit of an arse to me. I thought his 'don't mess with the weegies or we'll give you a doing' routine was a bit embarrassing.

It was an emotive time DE-a few of us were branded racist in the aftermath.

It seems that the airport lot had the 'courage of their convictions' which I've been repeatedly reminded is an admirable thing. Would that they had been sh*tebags like me!

mortonjag 2008-03-16 14:42:22
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 16 2008, 11:37 AM) [snapback]420158[/snapback]
How shallow and dare I say naive of you auld yin to assume income equates to intelligence. I have met many highly intelligent people on modest salaries, and similarly many high earners who reached that level not through intellect but more their ability to 'talk a good game'. Bulls***ters in other words.

I would suggest that intelligence plays only a relatively small part in determining someone's salary.

And in any case, if your theory held any water surely you'd be penniless. tongue.gif

How dare you assume that you know what I assume?


I didn't sense that the terribly ugly one who blocks p.m.s from other wee girls had CHOSEN his penury. If he has, I indeed applaud his scorning of filthy lucre.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 14:43:56
QUOTE(ian clinging @ Mar 16 2008, 12:37 PM) [snapback]420197[/snapback]
Any excuse for another bit of catholic bashing eh lads? As a catholic I find some of the comments regarding the Pope deeply offensive and blatantly sectarian.

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mortonjag 2008-03-16 14:46:16
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 16 2008, 02:44 PM) [snapback]420287[/snapback]
The firemen were the real brave ones. They must have known that the car could have exploded at any minute yet they stood there hosing it down.

True-I also have great admiration for bomb disposal experts-even the dead ones.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 14:50:16
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Mar 16 2008, 12:25 PM) [snapback]420188[/snapback]
Christ - Wendy has got to be terrible if we're taking to granny-banger over her.

Granny banger?



Ageing sausage?



Don't kid yourself sick one-Bawheid and Souter are clearlybu bosom buddies.

Both protesting all the way to the closet.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 14:51:29
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 16 2008, 02:22 PM) [snapback]420265[/snapback]
Salmond popular ? We can't have that, Doc Doom and co say he isn't popular. How could they have got it so wrong ? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
And the SNP riding high in the polls as well....... wink.gif Uncomfortable reading for a few on here I bet ohmy.gif

I've never accused Bawheid of unpopularity Spurtle-I can't help the fact that 90% of the population are clowns.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 14:56:19
QUOTE(chris_mceleny @ Mar 16 2008, 01:40 PM) [snapback]420239[/snapback]
Do you not spot the obvious pun in talents? The man who uses and betters his is the rewarded and the one who does nothing with his talent is punished.



The pun has been incorporated by those who wish so to interpret. The original 'talent' as of 'King James' version, was a measurement which could be related to monetary value.

I have been well aware of both those facts for many, many years!
mortonjag 2008-03-16 14:57:31
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 16 2008, 01:56 PM) [snapback]420254[/snapback]
Aye, but Donald Trump makes no such claim. laugh.gif

He's keeping it as a trump card.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 15:01:50
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 16 2008, 02:03 PM) [snapback]420257[/snapback]
Pity that comedians don't post on it any more. Bloody hell but it's dull.

Did you hear the one about the guy who fell off the railway bridge Mr Edwards?

NO!





























HARD LINES!
mortonjag 2008-03-16 15:10:08
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Mar 16 2008, 03:03 PM) [snapback]420310[/snapback]
On the bench. Unfortunately, Jamie is a bottler. Not willing to 'mix it' and 'throws his dummy oot the pram' when things don't go his way (on or off the park). Second Division player at best. Shame though.

That is untrue.

Mind you I don't think you get much right. Did you see him play for Alloa, Smiffy?
mortonjag 2008-03-16 15:16:43
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 16 2008, 03:12 PM) [snapback]420317[/snapback]
And I rest my case.

I take it it's a heavy one.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 15:19:56
QUOTE(se65an @ Mar 16 2008, 03:18 PM) [snapback]420320[/snapback]
I knew a girl that had a tattoo of a shell on her inside thigh, and when you put your ear on it, I swear you could smell the sea. tongue.gif

What do you give an elephant with diarrhoea?























Plenty of room.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 15:50:29
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 16 2008, 03:34 PM) [snapback]420329[/snapback]
I read an article on line in the Village Voice by David Mamet entitled 'Why I am no longer a brain-dead liberal'. In it he compares JFK (loved by liberals) to Bush (hated by them). I've always thought Kennedy was a power hungry fraud who brought the world to the brink of nuclear destruction on an entirely false premise. He also took credit for civil rights progress when in reality he kept MLK at arms length and it was his successor LBJ (again hated by liberals) that pushed the legislation through congress. Mamet's comparison goes further though: Bush got the US into Iraq, Kennedy got them into Vietnam. Bush stole an election in Florida, Kennedy and his Mafia pals bought one in Chicago.
I suppose one can excuse Bush because he's a cretin and 'his strings' were pulled by others more sinister. No such excuse for JFK though.

The Kennedys were a crowd of gangsters. Well known fact.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 15:53:07
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 16 2008, 03:43 PM) [snapback]420333[/snapback]
Getting a bit lighter.
Man went to the Doctor and said 'Doctor I've got a cricket ball stuck up my arse' and the Doctor said 'Hows that?' and the man said 'Don't you start!'

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'Ahm havin' the dug pit doon thi day'

'Is it mad'?

'It's no very pleased'.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 16:00:53
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Mar 16 2008, 03:53 PM) [snapback]420340[/snapback]
Many a time. Without doubt a good player in the Second Division playing for a 'wee team' with no pressure on him. wink.gif

Now you're talking 'skill'.

Was he a 'bottler' at Alloa?
mortonjag 2008-03-16 16:02:23
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Mar 16 2008, 03:55 PM) [snapback]420344[/snapback]
No doubt he'll be loaned out to East Stirling later this week. wink.gif

Clearly you think he was a JM signing then!
mortonjag 2008-03-16 16:05:05
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Mar 16 2008, 04:00 PM) [snapback]420345[/snapback]
Woman's in the vets and the vet is examining her beloved labrador.
Vet says, "I'm going to have to put your dog down, madam"
"Oh my god!" she wails, "Is it terminal?!?!"

"No, he's just dead heavy."

wink.gif


'Waiter, what's this fly doing in my soup'?

'Looks like the breast stroke Sir'.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 16:08:18
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 16 2008, 04:03 PM) [snapback]420348[/snapback]
i never know what you're on about

? ? ? ?

Are you suggesting that ignorance is bliss ?

How could Hitler invade Britain in 1941 ?

Are you close to finishing school ?

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That's naughty Newt-you know forza would eschew such establishments
mortonjag 2008-03-16 16:28:37
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Mar 16 2008, 04:25 PM) [snapback]420356[/snapback]
Took the words right out my mouth

he loved being the superstar in Alloa , Not as much here and he doesnt like it .

Id love to see him knuckle down and prove me wrong but I doubt it will happen

You seem to know something about him!

I take it he was this 'superstar' at Alloa because of his nice smile. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-16 17:44:39 Hmm-I got quite caught up in that. Moral victory to the Arabs IMHO.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 17:51:01
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Mar 16 2008, 05:07 PM) [snapback]420366[/snapback]
I'm not really a fan of player who wins the penalty hitting it, has a high miss rate attached to it.

Has it?
mortonjag 2008-03-16 17:52:17
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Mar 16 2008, 04:31 PM) [snapback]420359[/snapback]
I've never seen Stevenson smile. He's the most dour-faced player I've ever seen, even when he scores!

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mortonjag 2008-03-16 17:58:23
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Mar 16 2008, 05:47 PM) [snapback]420383[/snapback]
Yeah. blink.gif
Oh right, like when youse helped Thatcher get in? Did you vote for Maggie pal?
I voted for them for the local council, yes. Doesn't mean I've ever been a member of the Labour Party, does it?

You're forgetting that the SNP were key in Thatcher getting in to begin with, Brown may be giving her a fake smile to appease Middle England - but your party is responsible for her government.

I've a feeling that may be denied.
mortonjag 2008-03-16 18:02:19
QUOTE(aimlesswanderer @ Mar 16 2008, 05:56 PM) [snapback]420387[/snapback]
Great viewing but really heart-breaking at the end - United were by far the better team today - they played some really good football and their midfield was excellent, especially Flood and Gomis. Rangers were shocking but a crazy, Morton-esque defensive blunder gifted them their first goal and they were helped by Kenny Clark who made two terrible decisions at the start of the second half. He denied United a blatant penalty and then should have sent the circus freak Broadfoot off for a shocking high challenge. There is just no justice in football.

And what a p***y Barry Ferguson is - the captain and former penalty taker, who had a s***e match, was not one of the five who stepped up to take a penalty in the shootout.

I'm not sure what p***y means in this context. If Rangers had lost on penalties, I think you could reasonably have described him as a poosy! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-16 18:05:43
QUOTE(barry lavety is a fat junkie @ Mar 16 2008, 06:02 PM) [snapback]420400[/snapback]
That's not all you have ever stated, you tedious old man. Take a look through your posts and you'll find a number of daft, incorrect and contradictory statements on your wealth of knowledge of "Scots Law" and "contracts". Grade-A walloper.

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Yet another!
mortonjag 2008-03-16 18:19:10
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Mar 16 2008, 05:57 PM) [snapback]420391[/snapback]
As far as penalties go, I would say so.

I rarely see the penalty winner dispatch the penalty himself.

You may be correct-I just wondered if you could produce those all important statistics! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-16 18:22:46
QUOTE(chris_mceleny @ Mar 16 2008, 06:06 PM) [snapback]420404[/snapback]
And? Any ten year old could tell you a talent is money - hence the pun.
''In the parable of the talents the f*ckin' chancer is portrayed as the 'goodie' while the cautious lad who lacked confidence in his own ability gets slagged off. I always found something inherently un-Christian in that one.''

This probably the ''Un-christian'' way to interpret it.

Are you OK-that outburst makes absolutely no sense at all!
mortonjag 2008-03-17 08:42:35
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 16 2008, 08:37 PM) [snapback]420499[/snapback]
if thats a sin to cure illness i am all for it...

Not so much of a sin as 'Holy' manipulation Bryan.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 09:15:55
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 16 2008, 06:36 PM) [snapback]420431[/snapback]
For me , we were in a hole and staring relegation in the face . Do you think we would hace fared any better had JM not been replaced .
We had a few decent moves but as you said not enough players who can deliver the ball to the strikers. It is evident we don't have the quality no point in weighing DI/DC with our expecttions until the new season .

Honestly MJ if we are going to aportion blame then that has to be as a whole season . The biggest mistakes have been made july/August they were compounded in January.

Chris-I'll spell it out-not for you, but for everybody who will try to pick holes just because I'M saying this.

David Irons and Derek Collins-like JM, are relatively INEXPERIENCED managers. DI was IMHO well beaten by Owen Coyle last season, but the Mileson Millions legacy and a last minute goal pulled him through to the SPL where Gretna were abysmal.

JM left Morton in disarray. The heads were down, and the writing was on the wall for relegation. Matters were not helped by our meddlesome Chairman who was firing pot shots at the home fans en masse while claiming he desperately wanted to keep his pet puppet.

JM left/was pushed/took the sweetener---who knows, but he went.


Now HERE is the nub of the matter.

Was DI appointed to save us from relegation or not?

If the answer is YES, and we go down (or stay up by default), I'm sure Davie will admit he's failed in the task which was set him.

Could it be, however, that the Shooglemeister has already accepted the possibility of second division football again.

After all, that's where they all shout 'Dougie-gie's a wave', and toss you up in the air after defeats at Kirkcaldy, and where you're the 'Biggie' among minnows and the crowds are better.

If his wee soiree's still on, some brave soul MAY dare to ask that question. I have long since accepted that Rae will never answer a question honestly unless it suits his purpose.

David Irons is already coming over to me as an extremely pleasant man----that gives me an uncomfortable sense of Deja Vu.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 09:21:26
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Mar 16 2008, 09:05 PM) [snapback]420522[/snapback]
Well that was an interesting day out. For all of you that have been less than positive this season I apologize. To be frank that was the worst display I've seen in the last few seasons. The first half, in fact the first 70 minutes, was pathetic to the point of being painful to watch. And it wasn't just the pointless hoofs up the park, it was the fact that not one player would take control of the ball and prefered to play head tennis to anyone, but on most occasions prefeably to anyone not wearing blue and white. Saying that while Partick were more composed on the ball luckily they were toothless in attack. The last 20 minutes we did appear to understand that possesion plays a major role in winning a football match and actually started to threaten a little. I can only think McAlister got the MotM for his shot in the second half as he was pretty much annonynous for the rest of the game. As for the penalty, to be honest we would have stolen the three points if it had gone in.

We all know these guys can play football when they stay composed and play the ball on the deck. They just have to get themselves in the right frame of mind and we will get the points needed to stay up. Hopefully then we can get a few players in to actually make this team play football.

ScotinBelgie

Indeed Robert, and whose job is it to get them playing properly-can NOBODY do it-does it just happen now and again by pure accident?

SURELY a good manager can get the best from his team, and if the best isn't good enough neither can be blamed.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 09:35:21
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 16 2008, 10:43 PM) [snapback]420590[/snapback]
Hmm, not like you to change the direction of a topic or thread to something you want to discuss or feel warrants greater discussion.

This is not stats, this is KPI's (key performance indicators) and they tell a significant story - a bit like yourself!

'anally retentive' - I'm sure you could give them something for that!?

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

I prefer KP nuts, though they're pretty well in the same league Santa!



I'd find it relatively easy to define a KPI for a hooker, and in football we have those net things that the sides try to kick the ball into.


When it comes to complex organisations, KPI's are used as often as not as a JUSTIFICATION rather than a measurement, and often deflect attention from work in hand to ensuring that the KPIs look good.

I have extensive knowledge of General Practice (and practices) in Glasgow. Many months ago the league tables were published-league tabes which were supposed to give the service user an accurate guide to quality. They were generally inaccurate, and in at least 20% of cases at both ends of the scale were SO obviously misleading that I nearly pished myself laughing.


Call them numbers, statistics, KPI's or whatever.

Facts are chiels that winna ding!

Oh and numbers people DO tend to be anally retentive bores! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-17 09:38:45
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 16 2008, 11:05 PM) [snapback]420604[/snapback]
To save our season.

If all the teams around us win their games in hand - Stirling are 3 points behind us and Clyde are 2 points ahead.

We are not in a particularly good spot - and need a win against Livingstone on Saturday to start the recovery

MON THE TON

I believe the failure at Broadwood to have been KPI of the season!
mortonjag 2008-03-17 09:40:26
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Mar 16 2008, 06:31 PM) [snapback]420424[/snapback]
We kept a clean sheet yesterday. Credit where credit is due is surely not too much to ask. Greacen was particularly good yesterday.

What really irritates me is the fans who scream at our players for not finding feet when making a clearing header. Just so these guys know, Cannavaro doesn't often manage it, what makes you think it is possible for Morton players to manage it?! It has been mentioned earlier in the thread that some fans are far too quick to get on the backs of our players when they make a mistake; or sometimes even when they don't! There were plenty times when a long pass was made yesterday and as soon as it left the players boot folk were moaning. They didn't acknowledge the accuracy of the pass if it found feet.

We will need patience and encouragement if we are to win our remaining fixtures.

Agreed.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 09:44:19
QUOTE(Rodder @ Mar 17 2008, 08:47 AM) [snapback]420662[/snapback]
I am led to believe that Chris Innes has the choice of us or Dundee.
Greg Fleming will be on trial at Oldham from this morning.

Even though Gretna are in breach of contract, the administrators would need to sack the players in question
before they could sign for another team. Im sure they would have no problem in sacking them seen as they
are refusing to play.

Do you mean 'release them from their contracts'?
mortonjag 2008-03-17 09:48:46
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Mar 16 2008, 06:30 PM) [snapback]420421[/snapback]
Jamie was never under enough pressure at Alloa to be tested. Not a player to be relied upon when you're battling relegation IMO. sad.gif

Alloa (and Jamie) were under HUGE pressure to avoid the drop in his last season there. Week, after week, after week the newspapers were reporting that Stevenson had orchestrated unexpected results, and scored cracking solo goals.

I watched Jamie against us several times, and when he picked up the ball deep in midfield and started one of those runs, I was 's***tin' it.

mortonjag 2008-03-17 10:05:16 Many happy returns of the day.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 10:08:00 There is a simple remedy today, which I fully intend to apply to my 'better half'.

Buy her a St Patrick's day card!
mortonjag 2008-03-17 10:16:00
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Mar 16 2008, 08:06 PM) [snapback]420484[/snapback]
In not all States, but in a lot of them it's a crime to "aid and abet" someone in committing suicide. In short, either giving someone a loaded gun, given them a "loaded" syringe (i.e. Dr Kervorkian), and the like makes one an "accessory before and during the fact" of someone taking their life. In essence, you aided them in killing themselves, and although you didn't do it yourself, you gave them the tools to do it. Thus, you can be convicted of that crime....ESPECIALLY if the person continuously threatens to take their life (the law would assume that you, as an adult, would at least consider a little bit that they could be serious about doing it, thus it would be your job to stop them).

There's no difference between that and giving someone a loaded gun and "daring" them to rob a bank with it.

The guy in this case got what he deserved, along with the (I would believe) life-long guilt that he could've done something to save the girl (or even that he "killed" her by giving her the loaded gun to do it, whereas she didn't have one before-hand).

It's also a well accepted caveat in medicine that no matter how unlikely a suicide threat may seem it can never be totally dismissed.

Mind you I can still laugh when I recall the true story of Dr Berrie, and the guy who had police, ambulance, fire brigade, and press on tenterhooks as he threatened to jump from the high flats at Sighthill.

Anne was not known for patience, and was the unfortunate duty doctor called to the scene. She marched into the flat and right out to the balcony.

'I'm Dr Berrie', she told him, 'and I'm bloody busy tonight-are you going to jump or not?'

Apparently he took one look at that face of hers, and meekly walked back indoors.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 10:19:38
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 16 2008, 06:11 PM) [snapback]420406[/snapback]
I called every penalty minus United's last one based on the players face alone. Some of them looked like they were shietting themselves!

You have clearly missed your vocation!
mortonjag 2008-03-17 10:26:12
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 16 2008, 10:33 PM) [snapback]420587[/snapback]
All imperial plumbing now being jointed to metric, all floorboards up and 1930s tiles walls now have batons to suppport the new tongue and groove walls

another 12 hour shift today

..Bring on tomorrow

Watch yer heid wi' thae sticks Santa!

What T & G are you doing? I hope it's natural wid.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 10:28:37
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Mar 16 2008, 10:50 PM) [snapback]420596[/snapback]
128. Which isn't too bad for this time of night and and after a weekend of much excess after being suspended from work last week.

Abseiling for charity?
mortonjag 2008-03-17 10:32:06
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Mar 17 2008, 07:18 AM) [snapback]420642[/snapback]
kd lang is gay?!?!?!?!?!? ohmy.gif

She claims to be one of those les bean people.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 10:33:15
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 14 2008, 08:45 PM) [snapback]419311[/snapback]
Fek !! The Chieftains are on BBC4 at 9pm ! Whit a night for music. Where's ma bodhran ?

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Under yer kilt bodhran bum.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 10:36:56
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 17 2008, 08:24 AM) [snapback]420652[/snapback]
I know, what's Tom like, eh? Daft auld fud. rolleyes.gif

Forza seems like a pretty good guy though so I don't mind being compared to him. smile.gif

....and I prefer Mr Bam's assessment!
mortonjag 2008-03-17 10:41:08
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Mar 16 2008, 07:20 PM) [snapback]420458[/snapback]
The guy comes across as a "gallus" chancer.

In Glasgow I have noticed that for a number of people their view on Smeaton seems to be defined by which one of the ugly sisters they support. Quite pathetic.

Brown, Slamon et al have all been happy to share the "limelight". The lengths politicians will go to...

The wrath of bannock baws awaits you.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 10:43:20 One of the smartest ways of guaranteeing Smeato's continued success was to 'discredit' him.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 10:46:27
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 17 2008, 09:16 AM) [snapback]420670[/snapback]
Will they have to rename Gypsy Creams? In fact do they still make them?

Just googled and they don't, but apparently in Oz they have renamed them Romany Creams. FFS....

I think it may be slightly more sinister-most of the Roma around here indeed look like traditional gypsies.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 10:50:12
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 16 2008, 06:18 PM) [snapback]420411[/snapback]
Perhaps the 90% are right and your the clown rolleyes.gif

History would tend to suggest that the masses usually get it wrong.

Hitler is only one example of grossly misplaced trust in a cult hero Spurtle.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 10:53:44
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Mar 16 2008, 08:47 PM) [snapback]420509[/snapback]
Interesting. You prefered Margaret Thatcher's government to Gordon Brown's? Are you a policeman?



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Well-ARE YOU Spurtle Officer? wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-17 11:00:51
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 17 2008, 10:26 AM) [snapback]420698[/snapback]
Did you look at my face and predict I missed my vocation? wink.gif

No-I just thought that anybody who really BELIEVES he can predict nine out of ten penalties by the looks on the players faces should be competing with Bawheid in the personal unawareness stakes!
mortonjag 2008-03-17 11:02:16
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 17 2008, 10:29 AM) [snapback]420701[/snapback]
Lee Robinson is probably the most confident at half time with his over head kicks and sticking the finger up at the fans, let him take it and handle the wrath if he were to miss.

You have a good point Robinson IS actually very accomplished at kicking-why NOT?
mortonjag 2008-03-17 11:03:53
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 17 2008, 11:00 AM) [snapback]420719[/snapback]
Sorry to dissapoint. No I'm naw in the polis laugh.gif

Not even a Traffic Warden bannock baws?
mortonjag 2008-03-17 11:05:05
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Mar 17 2008, 11:02 AM) [snapback]420725[/snapback]
No way!!!!

Fraid so.

Are those les beans bad or sumfin'?
mortonjag 2008-03-17 11:15:30
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Mar 17 2008, 10:28 AM) [snapback]420700[/snapback]
Slang ?

Two descriptive analogies - arse like a fighting dogs ear and arse like an Aberdeen rosette - simple stuff.

Donald Trump - dump.

John The Baptist Fart - a prophetic fart - one which tells of greater things to come, usually solid.

I'm here to help.

Anyway, I digress - why do we do it. It clearly can't be good for the insides, I'm sure MJ will be able to put some medical angle on it - but it just can't be good for you - and yet when you fall out the pub you just have to do it.

Why ?

TonInDublin

True story TiD.


When the Koh-i-noor first opened in 1964, it was the first Indian restaurant in Gibson Street, and only the second or third in Glasgow. In response to its growing popularity, an extension was added in 1974. It continues to be run as a family business-by the present owner, Rasul (or Russell) and his son Waseem, the grandson of the founder.

A prominent public figure was visiting Glasgow in the mid sixties and was taken to the Koh-i-noor as a treat as he'd never tasted Indian food.

The original Mr Rasul was fussing about being hospitable (they always have been so) and the distinguished guest started asking about the menu. Rasul was doing his best in his pretty broken Glasgow accent, when the good fellow asked 'This vindaloo one-is it REALLY hot'

'Really hot' Rasul blurted 'Sir it will blow your f***in' heid aff'.











mortonjag 2008-03-17 11:20:32
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 17 2008, 08:56 AM) [snapback]420665[/snapback]
Tautology, I believe?

Tautological tautology?
mortonjag 2008-03-17 11:21:42
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 17 2008, 10:03 AM) [snapback]420683[/snapback]
you forget Iron's has never seen Jamie play as a striker before, our strikers are struggling to score goals so why not give it a go?

im positive he will never start up front ever again.

Has Jamie taken the huff over training too! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-17 11:23:02
QUOTE(Malt @ Mar 17 2008, 10:23 AM) [snapback]420695[/snapback]
We are also intersested in Skelton, However he has also been offered a deal by Darlington.

Looks like we will miss out on the three :-(

Plus ca change!
mortonjag 2008-03-17 11:24:34
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 17 2008, 10:35 AM) [snapback]420709[/snapback]
On Saturday for the first time I can remember in a long time the half time team talk turned things around for us. We were shocking in the first but whatever Irons and Collins said, worked. For Greacen and McGregor it turned potentially awful performances in to pretty good performances – esp McGreggor.
Had the penalty gone in, I think we'd all be feeling reasonably wink.gif confident about the season being 5 clear of Clyde and 2 ahead of Livi.

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What did he say-can you share please?
mortonjag 2008-03-17 11:27:24
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 17 2008, 11:21 AM) [snapback]420740[/snapback]
Can't blame them for s***ing it if even they clear it to f*** they'll get some idiot behind me going nuts at them for not releasing Jim McAllister down the left with an overhead kick because that's what Paul Fenwick woulda done and how much we need a guy like him or John Anderson back in the team.. blah f***ing blah.

See thae blah blah wans-they know f*ck a'! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-17 11:32:44
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Mar 17 2008, 11:24 AM) [snapback]420745[/snapback]
Wasn't the Rogan Josh invented in a Glasgow curry house, or similar tomato based dish?

I heard that one once - guy wanted tomato puree, perhaps even ketchup in his normal curry, they obliged, realised it was popular, and spread from there?

Rogan josh is an aromatic curry dish. Rogan means clarified butter in Persian, while Josh means hot or passionate. Rogan Josh thus means meat cooked in clarified butter at intense heat.

According to Lizzie Collingham's book Curry: A tale of cooks & conquerors,[1] Rogan Josh was brought to India by the Moghuls. The unrelenting heat of the Indian plains took the Moghuls frequently to Kashmir, which is where the first Indian adoption of Rogan Josh occurred.

Evidence of this is the typical absence of onion and garlic in the Kashmiri versions of the recipe as made by Kashmiri Brahmins, who had no qualms about eating meat, but were averse to using these spices in the kitchen.

See from others it was Tikka masala.


mortonjag 2008-03-17 11:36:43
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 17 2008, 11:33 AM) [snapback]420753[/snapback]
I'm naw even a gynacologist. But I'll have a look at it if you want ?

Dr Spurtle at my cervix-mm-can I think about it first?
mortonjag 2008-03-17 11:38:28
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Mar 17 2008, 11:22 AM) [snapback]420743[/snapback]
No, it's just she's such a looker I'm gutted she's not heterosexual.
MJ, I think she's probably the most famous lazer beam in music wink.gif

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I do understand your disappointment.

Many of those les beans dress up like men I'm informed.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 11:42:15
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 17 2008, 11:33 AM) [snapback]420754[/snapback]
That is so petty.

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You've un huff buttoned I see-welcome to loads of informed and informative postings from super Jag.

I was actually posing a serious question-now I'm wondering if you just assumed that the improvement was down to Irons.

I reckoned McColl settled for the draw early in the second half 'cos he's got a big cup tie this week and doesn't fear relegation.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 11:45:21
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 17 2008, 11:38 AM) [snapback]420757[/snapback]
Nah. They know f***ing everything. That's how you can tell they're a f***ing numpty.

What to one man is 'blah, blah, blah' may be music to another's ears though-they are surely allowed to have opinions!
mortonjag 2008-03-17 11:48:10
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 17 2008, 11:12 AM) [snapback]420731[/snapback]
I've never thought it was right for white people to decide what is/isn't racist against other races. Whether it be claiming something is or isn't.

You really HAVE to be at the 'wind up'! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-17 11:52:07
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Mar 17 2008, 11:49 AM) [snapback]420769[/snapback]
The party you love so dearly [probably more than independence] played a part in imposing her on us.

No amount of names you can call me can change history.

Not even thatcherspawn? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-17 11:54:38
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Mar 17 2008, 11:47 AM) [snapback]420766[/snapback]
SPeaking of which - did you think Weatherson threw a strop? He seemed to chuck the armband at Jenkins.

A strap, sometimes also called strop, is an elongated flap or ribbon, usually of fabric or leather.

Guess he did!
mortonjag 2008-03-17 11:56:39
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 17 2008, 11:55 AM) [snapback]420775[/snapback]
No chance, his throw was just weak and girly....kinda like his performance actually.

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mortonjag 2008-03-17 11:58:50
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Mar 17 2008, 11:54 AM) [snapback]420773[/snapback]
Not even p***k-nipples.

That's not a nickname-it's a serious genetic disorder.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 12:09:44
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 17 2008, 12:02 PM) [snapback]420780[/snapback]
Disagree? His performance was poor. And I felt it was good that Irons had the baws to sub him. Russle was far more effective.

Nice to see you coming round about LEAFY, though it's rustle!
mortonjag 2008-03-17 12:13:40
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 17 2008, 12:11 PM) [snapback]420783[/snapback]
You know what I mean. Pisses me off when some guy from middle England is doing his best to stick up for the minorities when he's not got a f***ing clue. Almost as much as another guy going "PC brigade" and all that s***e when he's got no right to tell someone else what should and shouldn't offend them.

Don't just quote the "white" part and take it literally.

I think what you're trying to say is that most folk with an anti racist agenda have bigger issues than those they accuse.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 12:15:03
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 17 2008, 12:13 PM) [snapback]420785[/snapback]
I'm not even going this year. Too busy packing for Jersey (or the big hoose if you live in MortonJag's fantasy land)

Don't forget the bum padlock!
mortonjag 2008-03-17 12:38:25
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Mar 17 2008, 12:17 PM) [snapback]420788[/snapback]
Did she exhibit any signs of hunnery before the wedding? If not then you should divorce her and then sue her for abusing your human rights.

1000

ten hunner to be precise.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 12:40:41
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Mar 17 2008, 12:26 PM) [snapback]420792[/snapback]
Well I mean, how gypsy was she? Did she have a crystal ball or anything?

Sexism as well Mick-did HE have two, and if so he could probably see himself coming.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 13:16:47
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 17 2008, 12:50 PM) [snapback]420811[/snapback]
I don't think that is the case. It is at times but not what I was getting at. An example from my own humble experience, would be the other week my mate called my other mate a poofter. Without realising he WAS gay. I apologised on his behalf, which I still reckon was the right thing to do, but he laughed it off and telt me not worry. It's not my place to tell this guy what he can and can't be called or what can and can't offend him. That's a minor thing but you put it on a bigger scale and it's just as patronising. People can fight and speak up for themselves and don't need others to tell them what they should and shouldn't accept. Moral guardians, whether liberal or conservative, are as sickening as each other.

You're friends with a real live pufe? I applaud that, and I even more applaud your bravery in coming out.

I'm led to believe that many men don't like pufes at all.

I'm also led to believe that many men SAY they don't like pufes when they haven't even met any.

I think that's a bit daft, but I'm not quite so sure about the les beans.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 13:21:45
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 17 2008, 01:05 PM) [snapback]420819[/snapback]
Is it PUGGS?

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mortonjag 2008-03-17 13:25:58
QUOTE(suda @ Mar 17 2008, 01:12 PM) [snapback]420824[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(C B @ Mar 17 2008, 08:38 AM) [snapback]420658[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I think Stevenson showed why he's potentially better than Millar on Saturday. Partick and Morton both filled up the middle of the park and there was no room for movement, Stevenson adapted with his one touch play and close control, whereas Millar looked lost.

For me Stevenson should stay in that role at the expense of Millar and Russell should be on the park as a second striker.

..............Taking Freekicks and corners too !!!!!!!!! mad.gif

tell me your taking the piss please!? Millar was out fought by Rowson on Saturday I'll admit but Stevenson's contribution was non existent. If by one touch play you mean he never got a 2nd touch then fair enough, he may of been out of position but he missed several headers when unchallenged never once got the ball down and turned towards the opposition goal and seemed generally lacking in confidence and heart. I'd leave him on the bench at this crucial stage of the season, if he needs wrapped up in cotton wool until his form improves then so be it hopefully he can perform better for 15 mins coming off the bench.

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That's all he said, and I agree. On form Stevenson is twice as direct as Millar who frequently runs about in circles with no end product.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 13:30:30
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 17 2008, 01:21 PM) [snapback]420829[/snapback]
I'm pals with a LOT more lesbians than queers. Wonder why that is.... unsure.gif

Seems a bit queer to me too-are you selectively homophobic perhaps or is that impossible?
mortonjag 2008-03-17 13:34:05
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 16 2008, 10:23 PM) [snapback]420584[/snapback]
I was about to post something like "If Ron Atkinson was speaking in my back garden I wouldn't go and listen to him," but that's a huge lie... I probably would listen to him as I was booting him senseless around the whirlygig for trespassing.

Your violence is so gentle-why not go the whole hog and boot his whirlygig to f*ck as well.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 13:39:55
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 17 2008, 01:32 PM) [snapback]420842[/snapback]
nothing is impossible.

i just prefer watching the lesbians pull than the gays smile.gif

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Pluck or pull-whiitever turns you on!
mortonjag 2008-03-17 13:43:20
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Mar 17 2008, 01:36 PM) [snapback]420846[/snapback]
I have a very good friend who is gay. But I tell you what, I fcking hate gypsies.




I wish I lived in a caravan,
With a horse to drive, like the pedlar man!
Where he comes from nobody knows,
Or where he goes to, but on he goes!

His caravan has windows, two,
And a chimney of tin, that the smoke comes through;
He has a wife, with a baby brown,
And they go riding from town to town!

"Chairs to mend and delf to sell!"
He clashes the basins like a bell;
Tea-trays, baskets, ranged in order,
Plates with the alphabet round the border!

The roads are brown and the sea is green,
But his house is just like a bathing machine;
The world is round and he can ride,
Rumble and splash to the other side!

With the pedlar-man I should like to roam,
And write a book when I came home;
All the people would read my book,
Just like the Travels of Captain Cook!



I remember being fascinated by that wee poem as a child.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 13:47:47
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 17 2008, 01:34 PM) [snapback]420844[/snapback]
And still you miss the point. You seem to be of the view that the SNP should have supported a Labour government that was doing nothing for Scotland, that was actively deceiving the Scottish people. In withdrawing their support, all they did was facilitate an election. The electorate of the UK, or to be more accurate the electorate of England, then chose to elect the Tories.

Maybe you should instead have been lobbying for independence - that way Scotland would have been spared Thatcher.

If the SNP had continued to prop up Labour in 1979, Labour would have continued in power doing all the things they had been doing. You're surely not claiming that would have been a good thing? Do you remember the 1970s? Were you actually there? What David Edwards said is spot on - the country was a disaster area. And much as I dislike Thatcher, Hitler she wasn't by a long way.

I want independence. As long as the SNP support that aim, and as long as they don't wander too far to left or right, and as long as they prove themselves to be the best party to govern Scotland as they are proving at the moment, they will have my support, even though I have one of two fundamental disagreements with party policy (faith schools being the main one).

I well remember what I still regard as the most accurate election slogan of all time.




LABOUR ISN'T WORKING
mortonjag 2008-03-17 13:56:45
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 17 2008, 01:47 PM) [snapback]420865[/snapback]
Used to have lunch at the Koh i Noor in Gibson Street every Friday when I worked at Park Circus in the 70s. 50p I think it was for 3 courses. Or 35p plus 1 luncheon voucheras we knew it.....

Was the first curry house in that area not in Bank St just across from the side of the Men's Union? Maybe that was the site of the original Koh i Noor when it first opened - when I was at uni, the restaurant on that site was called the Green Gate and was regarded as unsafe to eat in for reasons of hygiene.

If we wanted to go upmarket, we went to the Shish Mahal, also very good food but a bit pricier.

Jewel in the Crown in Dumfries is a great Indian restaurant.

I'm pretty certain that was never a curry house. The Koh-i-noor started in Gibson St., just up from the corner of Park Rd where Arnold Clark opened his first car showroom. It was supported at the back by 'stilts' as part overhung the Kelvin, and I believe safety was the main reason for moving from there to North St at Charing cross.

The original 'Shish' was on Gibson St-further up on the other side, and almost at Bank St. They used to let you BYOB as they had no licence. They were 'done' for VAT evasion-BIG style!!!
mortonjag 2008-03-17 13:58:03
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Mar 17 2008, 01:51 PM) [snapback]420869[/snapback]
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Harrrumph, thankfully they weren't there on Saturday.
Who actually benefits from them being there eh?
I know they're not doing any harm but half dressed wee lassies dancing about to euro-pop trash in front of a couple of thousand footy fans...???

Sorry veering off topic into rant territory...

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SH**G**
mortonjag 2008-03-17 14:04:20
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 17 2008, 01:57 PM) [snapback]420875[/snapback]
has she changed her name to Eileen ?

She apparently sloped off sharpish with the dough.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 14:06:54
QUOTE(rex manning @ Mar 17 2008, 01:41 PM) [snapback]420854[/snapback]
Apparently McGuffie was the penalty taker at his previous club and never missed one.

Scotty has asked to hit them from now on.

Could be wrong, but Scotty would hit EVERY dead ball if they let him!
mortonjag 2008-03-17 14:13:10
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 17 2008, 01:39 PM) [snapback]420851[/snapback]
we're forever hearing about Mcinally, Templeman, Greacen, Harding etc not being good enough at this level. Why is Stevenson different?

All you've ever done is see Stevenson play against diddy teams that even Mcinally, Templeman, Greacen and Harding could beat easily.

Millar has proven this season he's a good 1st division midfielder, proven by his move to one of the leagues top teams.

you have never seen Stevenson be on form, none of us has. we've seen him play a good game and then be anonymous the next game.

much like Templeman on his day he could probably play at the top level of scottish football but they dont have enough of these days. That's why Templeman is playing 2nd division football next season and whatever happens with us Stevenson should be aswell.

I saw him on form several times at Alloa and he was streets ahead of anything we had in midfield then. I agree that Millar is a very useful player who has looked twice as good SINCE he knew he was leaving, but he will never be able to run through defences AND finish the way Jamie can. Don't forget Midge has gone through patches when he wasn't exactly cutting it, and was the boo boys favourite.

What goes round tends to come round if the talent's there and with Stevenson it undoubtedly is.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 14:16:27
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 17 2008, 02:10 PM) [snapback]420882[/snapback]
they are better here than last year rolleyes.gif tongue.gif

A little perhaps, but not in terms of the ones who are likely to shout 'Dougie-gie's a wave'! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-17 14:19:49
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 17 2008, 02:11 PM) [snapback]420883[/snapback]
Owa! Ya wee cow
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mortonjag 2008-03-17 14:26:32
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Mar 17 2008, 02:13 PM) [snapback]420884[/snapback]
Not doing any harm but not beneficial, so why bother?

I guess folk assume you know everything because you're tannoy man.

Mr Rae is besotted with the May Hughes Dancers. One of his most valued possessions is a framed photograph of them with him in beside them.

He believes they raise the crowds spirits, and even made a naughty wee comment in the 'Shoogly Peg' about them doing MORE than that for him! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-17 14:28:19
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 17 2008, 02:24 PM) [snapback]420892[/snapback]
How'd you come up with that one?

Reminded me of 'tiny tasty chewy sweets'!
mortonjag 2008-03-17 14:42:31
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 17 2008, 02:21 PM) [snapback]420890[/snapback]
how could you possibly see Stevenson on form at Alloa unless you were at all their games? You saw him have a good game at Alloa....against Morton. He's had quite a few good games sprinkled here and there for us, but never a prolonged run of form.

Chris was young then and with that came inconsistency, he seems to be over that stage now and is a top 1st divison midfielder who will only get better.

Sadly i think Stevenson has came as far as he is going to, which is a shame.

The difference in the two being attitude. Chris has taken a lot of knocks since he's been here and every time fights back and becomes an even better player because of it. Even at Alloa facing relegation everything was going well for him, the first sign of something not going his way and he becomes invisable for over a year.

Hold on sonny boy-how do you know what matches I do and don't attend? I saw Stevenson several times against Morton, and a couple more at Alloa-my Daughter in Law is a Wasps supporter and they live in Menstrie. Several times he was f*ckin dynamite-END OF!

I've always rated Millar since he first played for us against Queens Park at Hampden, but the suggestion that his maturing process has been quicker than Jamies is daft, particularly as he's a year and a half older (a long time in a young footballer's career).

I'm willing to see the good and bad in every player-Jamie may well have an 'attitude problem', but so have many world class footballers throughout history. It's up to the management to sort that out or let him go. Just DON'T tell me the boy can't play football-oh and don't tell Alan Maitland either.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 15:09:31
QUOTE(carlito @ Mar 17 2008, 02:46 PM) [snapback]420901[/snapback]
Montrose at Links Park... you're thinking of John Adam! ph34r.gif

As far as I was aware Millar and Adam both played their first games that day at Hampden, when Adam scored with an excellent strike. What were the dates of the two matches?
mortonjag 2008-03-17 15:19:37
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 17 2008, 03:00 PM) [snapback]420911[/snapback]
they play on the same day as us, so unless you missed 3+ Morton games in a row to attend Alloa matches (using 3 games as the basis of being on form and not just playing well) then thats exactly what you've done....seen him play well. Which is something every single Morton fan has seen him do, just not nearly enough.

i said the difference between the two was Attitude, nothing to do with maturing process. Millar had came back from knock after knock, criticism after criticism by the time he was Jamie's age. He'd get left out the team for a period of games at least twice a season but always come back and be a very important part of the team. Stevenson has went missing for at least a year and shows no sign of ever coming back, or even having the desire to come back.

the difference being they are world class. Stevenson is nowhere near good enough to have an attitude problem, he needs to put in hard work on and off the pitch if he's ever going to make it at a decent level of football, something he doesnt seem willing to do.

i didnt say he couldnt play football, i said the difference between him and Millar is attitude and that all Stevenson has ever done is prove himself against 2nd division opposition that players that have been slated by Morton fans were good enough to play against and beat comfortably.

Jamie Stevenson is not the messiah, he's not our savior, he's not going to save us. He isn't good enough to start games for us, which is saying something and he should be on the bench til the end of the season and then released back to the 2nd division where he belongs, so he can keep a team up by scoring against Cowdenbeath and Alan Maitland and you can have a crywank over him because he's not at your respective clubs anymore.

I DON'T lie-simple-there's no point. There was a glut of fixtures at the end of that season, and I took in two evening matches at Alloa, and one Saturday match-can't remember why-so aye, I did see him play at least six times, and that was enough to convince me of his ability.

OK so you're ONLY criticising his attitude-or so you claim while making it crystal clear that as with many of your generation you have an irrational dislike (or love) for given players.

I won't go back on what I've stated. Based on the potential I saw at Alloa Stevenson is streets ahead of Midge in terms of pure football. Get that sorted and we're talking SPL fees.

I may be wrong so don't bother repeating yourself-time will tell! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-17 15:21:04
QUOTE(carlito @ Mar 17 2008, 03:13 PM) [snapback]420918[/snapback]
Heh, no idea what dates they were. I just remember the Montrose game well, as it was midweek and I didn't get home until about 2am!

Are you REALLY sure that that was Millar's first match?
mortonjag 2008-03-17 15:24:43
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 17 2008, 02:48 PM) [snapback]420903[/snapback]
My apologies, it was Davie McArthur I was precising, not David Edwards. I blame post-traumatic stress for my error....

You've been paid?!!!!! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-17 15:27:51
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 17 2008, 02:51 PM) [snapback]420904[/snapback]
Actually it might have been the Shish that started where the Green Gate was.....

I think that's ringing bells-the shop on the Bank St. corner-opposite the Union was some kind of eatery, but never Indian.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 15:32:30
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Mar 17 2008, 03:11 PM) [snapback]420916[/snapback]
Aye, I always do really high quality jobbies after a heavy session.

MJ, explain please.

I believe the spices act as a 'stimulant' laxative-they cause minor irritation in the large bowel which in turn results in increased mucus production, water retention, and activity of the bowel muscles.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 15:38:24
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 17 2008, 03:29 PM) [snapback]420926[/snapback]
i dont have an irrational dislike for any player at Morton, if anyone has a good game or even does something well i will acknowledge it and want every player at Morton to do well.

Jamie has the ability to be a good 1st division midfielder if he worked hard, nothing more or nothing less. ive been one of Stevenson's biggest fans since he came and could never understand why he wasn't in the team, everyone including myself were making excuses for him time and again that he wasnt playing well (or playing at all) with every excuse under the sun, wether it be Mcinally, being played on the wings, People on Parachutes interrupting his warm ups, the grass being too green, the temperature being 1o too cold.

its time for Jamie to take responsibility for once, as you say he has ability....so if he really wanted to he could be in our team every week helping to control the midfield, but he's not and i've finally came to the realisation that its not everyone elses fault...its no-ones but his own.

That's much clearer.

Now explain this.

IF DI is allowed the luxury of being judged at the end of the season for the mess JM's left for him, why is Jamie miraculously expected to recover from a similar problem overnight?

He looked good at Hamilton, but was not picked at Clyde. Then he was played out of position AGAIN on Saturday. FFS-is it REALLY all his fault?
mortonjag 2008-03-17 15:42:16
QUOTE(se65an @ Mar 17 2008, 01:54 PM) [snapback]420872[/snapback]
InverclydeNow
A 46-YEAR-old man was robbed in his home in the west end of Greenock.

He allowed two men into his flat in Kelly Street around 3.20pm yesterday.

They demanded money from him and left with a small sum of cash and some cigarettes.

Both robbers were about 25-years-old old. One was 5ft 7in tall, with blond hair and wearing a green wax jacket and denims.

The other was about 5ft 5in tall, of medium build, with brown hair, and wearing a black hooded top and denims.

Anyone who saw them is urged to call police on 01475 492500.

Will I start it off Sean? wink.gif



Our thoughts are with the family.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 15:44:10
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 17 2008, 03:41 PM) [snapback]420932[/snapback]
Think he was talking about the booze?

Not quite so sure about that-partly stimulant, and partly osmotic I'd guess.
mortonjag 2008-03-17 20:55:17 cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(C B @ Mar 17 2008, 07:26 PM) [snapback]421059[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->(under McInally) Millar was given dozens more chances to play in his favoured role than Stevenson or Templeman EVER were and some weeks he stunk the place out and never got dropped ! INCLUDING EARLY ON THIS SEASON

If you could give a fair assessment of Stevenson and Millars abilitys I think you will find Stevenson on any given Saturday has more to offer. You certainly can't compare the two in a Morton jersey because they have not had an equal share of the pie.

I know Stevenson has a huffy attitude but coaches should be able to deal with all personalities for the good of his team !


McInally and his pets dry.gif[/quote]
Indeed CB-McInally WAS a pest.

Folk are bloody good at twisting the picture to fit. When we were nearly top of the old second it was common acceptance here that there was little between that and the average in the first. That was the VERY time when Jamie gave us a couple of roastings at Alloa-a time when other managers were singing his praises too.

I believe that had he gone to almost any other club he'd have come on in leaps and bounds. It's FAR too much of a coincidence that NOT ONE SOLITARY PLAYER at Cappielow since Rae took over has moved on to greater things, unless you count Midge to St Johnstone. That makes sad reading, as it's hardly a quantum leap. The boy's obviously seen the sense in getting out, and get out he will.

We have sprachled along from day one with Rae's so called wealth and patronage-ALWAYS flattering to deceive, and ALWAYS failing when the chips have been down. That appears to be the hallmark of the Shooglemeister, and may also become his legacy.

Nobody ever gets everything completely right or wrong, and it's frankly laughable in the extreme that Irons is being excused scrutiny by many on the basis that it's ALL JM's fault. JM is no longer at Morton FC.

Irons is still a relatively untried manager. We still don't know how independent he will be of Rae's clutches.

When players like Alex Walker, and Jamie, and LEAFY and young Graham start to blossom and display their undoubted skills, I'll begin to believe that for the first time under the 'Maister', we have a true manager.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 06:38:31
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 17 2008, 09:12 PM) [snapback]421105[/snapback]
MJ, if Jamie really does have the talent you profess he has then playing centre mid, wide right or up front shouldn't really matter to such a gifted youngster. Perhaps one of the reasons he asked to do various jobs in the team is because Irons too can see what he can offer and is asking him to step up to the plate in areas where we may be deficient. It speaks volumes for Jamie that he is unwilling or unable to do that. A real shame.

He was able at Alloa-if he's unwilling the management need to sort it or let him go.

Maybe it speaks bigger volumes that inexperienced management appears unable to re-kindle his undoubted skill.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 06:40:38
QUOTE(C B @ Mar 17 2008, 10:11 PM) [snapback]421132[/snapback]
I think the only coincidence is McInally, I know Rae is the common denominator but it will take a few fresh months without relegation looming for Irons to really show his metal.

If truth be told, Morton in the playoffs would have been relegation under McInally, with Irons, I'm quite hopeful we would win through and maintain our place in the league.

Time will tell wink.gif

Indeed and I can see Jamie playing in the SPL in three seasons but NOT for Morton.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 06:44:04
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Mar 16 2008, 06:41 PM) [snapback]420435[/snapback]
I was in there last Saturday afternoon and my mate got a pint that came with free lipstick on the rim of the glass. Bargain.

He must be a mean b*****d.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 06:46:14
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Mar 17 2008, 05:54 PM) [snapback]421002[/snapback]
I think you have mis-interpreted that but it I can see the ambiguity.

It says they left with some cigarettes, well if the victim had, say, 14 left in a 20 deck, and the robbers made off with all 14, then they would indeed have left with some cigarettes.

I am not trying to make light of what must have a traumatic incident for the victim.


Though it may have been an insurance job.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 06:49:02
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 17 2008, 08:45 PM) [snapback]421090[/snapback]
How could I indeed. The man that ran away from the circus to become an accountant.
Edit to add: And thought Edwina Currie was attractive.

Made me think of Mileson, the accountant who ran away from a circus to become a life support machine test pilot..
mortonjag 2008-03-18 06:51:34
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 17 2008, 07:34 PM) [snapback]421068[/snapback]
and a major part of the british media. i feel sorry for the guy - he's just some regular joe who gave an interview when he was still hopped up on adrenaline, was created a national hero by our press and political class and is now going to have his life destroyed by jealousy and pettiness.

what a s*** country this is
.

Feel free to jump ship.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 06:53:57
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 17 2008, 08:58 PM) [snapback]421099[/snapback]
no matter what he did/didnt do i think he's quite a likeable guy. he does seem like someone who would have been funny in school. pure chancer!

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You do have a soft spot for life's chancers!

Funny thing is forza you also appear to have no time for those who have made something of themselves.

Any issues there?
mortonjag 2008-03-18 06:57:25
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Mar 17 2008, 09:13 PM) [snapback]421106[/snapback]
Aye. The tragic part is that the same folk who we're lauding the bloke the most at the time will be the first ones to jump on the torches and pitchfork bandwagon. No wonder marketing men make an easy living with the amount of simple minded planks that inhabit this country.

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I think Smeaton has been used as a safety valve for a huge quantity of pent up steam.

It's not quite PC, and may be construed as racist to want to boot f*ck out of Muslim terrorists.

Enter Mr Smeaton.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 07:01:58
QUOTE(franco @ Mar 17 2008, 04:58 PM) [snapback]420976[/snapback]
Think it was called Joe's Garage in the early 80's MJ. Might have been Italian, although i could be mixing it up with Spaghetti Junction (or similar named place) in the lane off Byres Rd (possibly Ruthven).

That's all so ridiculously vague it is unlikely to help, i realise, but hopefully will jog a memory or two.


That also rings a bell. The corner shop has changed hands many many times over the years I believe. It's not very big. I definitely have a memory from the sixties of seeing folk sitting inside at tables-some kind of cafe then as I recall.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 07:04:18
QUOTE(lemmington @ Mar 17 2008, 08:55 PM) [snapback]421096[/snapback]
Cant explain why but I just love hot curries even sitting there with my forehead swetting,my nose running like a burn and not to mention the next day's visits to the lavvy.As the Johnny Cash song goes "ring of fire".

Well you are after all a Morton supporter-masochism comes easily to us.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 07:07:21
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 17 2008, 10:32 PM) [snapback]421141[/snapback]
10.5KW gents - which is wired back to the main distribution board

The shower will be mains fed - the waste is now in place and the wid T&G is now on two walls, another marathon day and once more, bring on tomorrow

The carpet fitters are coming, the large skip is arriving (kin 160 quid!!!) and the fireplace and gas fire is fitted tomorrow.

Plastering should finish tomorrow as well

Bring it on

Sanity (and ironically, slowly losing the plot!)

You are a master of understatement Santa! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-18 07:08:18
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Mar 17 2008, 07:08 PM) [snapback]421046[/snapback]
So you know a LOT of girls who tell you they're lesbians? Ok stud.

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mortonjag 2008-03-18 07:15:43
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Mar 17 2008, 10:54 PM) [snapback]421158[/snapback]
Nope, improper use of the internal email policy. I had emailed a colleague commenting that if the bullying and harrassment did not stop from our line manager I would be going off sick. Duly 2 days later I picked up a bug from our 4yr old and was off sick for 3 days. It has been alleged that constitutes gross misconduct as I followed through with my threat off going off sick and their is now unretrivable trust between me and my employer.

In other words me n the boss don't get on and she wants me out!! I can only hope my employment lawyer earns his £150 an hour!

Bullying and harrassment from line managers is a frequent cause of people 'going off sick'. It won't be difficult for a decent lawyer to point out that you just worded the e-mail rather unwisely, which was unsurprising as you were clearly at the end of your tether. The employer IMHO is already two steps towards 'constructive dismissal'.

There again you may be a lazy layabout who deserves the lot! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-18 07:17:54 Wouldn't dream of using a laptop except on the move.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 07:19:46
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 18 2008, 12:56 AM) [snapback]421185[/snapback]
A British brain surgeon has used a backyard drill to successfully remove a brain tumour from a fully conscious patient.

Henry Marsh used the $65 Bosch cordless drill during a visit to Ukraine — a far cry from the $65,000 compressed air medical drill he would normally use, the UK broadsheet Daily Telegraph reports.

His patient was only given a local anaesthetic because he could not find a fully trained anaesthetist.

Mr Marsh said this was beneficial because he could talk to his patient to ensure he was not causing brain damage.

He attached normal surgical bits to the end of the 9.6 volt drill but admitted the procedure wouldn't have been comfortable. He said Ukrainians could handle it because they were "tough".

ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

Wee Nickerless has just put in an order with Bosch as I type.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 07:23:20
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 18 2008, 07:05 AM) [snapback]421203[/snapback]
i'm planning on it, dullard.

Good
mortonjag 2008-03-18 07:27:12
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Mar 18 2008, 07:11 AM) [snapback]421206[/snapback]
The thing is, guys, Smeaton IS making something of himself.

Yes, he wanted to shun the limelight at first. He did, I remember it well. Check out the Smeaton website, they couldn't find the guy for weeks. Then, he came out of hiding. Embraced it.

So, he's got a a 'column" in a newspaper. If you had the chance of having a laugh and changing your life, stuck in a dead end job, wouldn't you take it?

MortonJag, you're a snob.

You missed my point entirely Donga, though I'm undoubtedly a snob.

I think Smeaton is entitled to take what he's being willingly given, and good luck to him-I DON'T see him as a chancer.

I've just happened to observe that forza has a strange take on life. Everything is simplified into the 'haves', and the 'have nots'. The latter are the goodies with whom forza associates himself!
mortonjag 2008-03-18 07:30:17
QUOTE(mentalton @ Mar 17 2008, 07:10 PM) [snapback]421047[/snapback]
Stupid old bas@ard deserves everything he gets, what did he think she saw in him but pound signs, if these guys are stupid enough to think one legged tarts fancy them then they deserve all they get, guys a p***k anyway. Its that poor wee wean i feel for, 4 years old and only getting 35 grand a year, how will she survive on that. Im 52 and have to get by with the same, but i dont need to buy diapers etc etc.

By the way, anyone ever shag a one legged burd, quite fancy it myself.

Put an ad in the Tilly.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 07:34:10
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Mar 18 2008, 12:20 AM) [snapback]421183[/snapback]
Good luck to the lassie. She was married to a guy who thinks his name will buy him anything.

Having had first hand experience of working with them both your all falling into the McCartney press machine. The guy is a complete toss pot. His lassie that got married over at Mount Stuart House is as arrogant as he is.
I mind seeing her take a tantrum because she asked a member of staff to take her dog a walk, the guy was busy and she threw a mega tantrum and reminded that member of staff she paid the wages and ordered the guy off the premises. Just like her dad would do.

Mills always took time to come out and speak to the workers and spend time asking how they where and always went out of her way to thank people who helped her.

Her ex is one of the most arrogant people around, a face for the media and another face for those who work with or for him.

Money and fame has went to his head, good on her for putting up with his s***e.

I'm always interested to hear first hand experiences in such situations, but don't expect folk to believe you.

I've met Mr Rae BTW! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-18 07:36:28
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Mar 18 2008, 07:28 AM) [snapback]421220[/snapback]
I don't know him well, but know him well enough to know he's as good as gold, MJ - a good guy. Might be looking after you someday! smile.gif

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Not if I get the chance to look after him first. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Oh I'm sure forza's a lovely man, and I just misjudge him almost as much as he misunderstands the Jag!
mortonjag 2008-03-18 07:37:48
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 18 2008, 07:36 AM) [snapback]421225[/snapback]
Hmmm - you think?

Off to work now-QUICK! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-18 07:39:28
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 18 2008, 07:25 AM) [snapback]421217[/snapback]
care to place a wager on that? tongue.gif

No
mortonjag 2008-03-18 07:39:57
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Mar 18 2008, 07:29 AM) [snapback]421221[/snapback]
Oh mammy daddy, get the white coat men!!! smile.gif

Time will tell!
mortonjag 2008-03-18 07:44:39
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Mar 17 2008, 04:23 PM) [snapback]420948[/snapback]
If Millar was up front he would be piss as well. I also distinctly remember Millar pulling out of every tackle that came his way right up until his injury earlier this season and yet he was still praised endlessly, yet Stevenson gets lambasted for not having an impact in a position alien to him, so I find it strange that Chris is held up as the epitomy of the eternal hard-worker. I really can't blame Jamie for being sick and tired of how he's been treated here when he's had to sit and watch chancers like McGuffie, for example, doing absolutely nothing whatsoever and still doesn't get a chance.

We're so uncreative in the middle of the park and have nothing at all to link the midfield with the attack which results in the constant stream of long balls, yet we consistently refuse to use the one player we have who is capable of filling that void in that role, instead wasting him on the right wing or at centre-forward. Also, the issue of McAlister being used on the left really needs to be addressed as we aren't seeing anything like his full ability out there. Whether that involves trying Graham for a few games on the left to allow Jim to move to the right, using MacAnespie there, or making a proper left-sided player the priority in the summer, we need to do something to get the best out of a player with Jims potential.
As has been said, I seen nothing yesterday to suggest that we've moved on from McInally's inadequacy - the players available to us are not that bad. A decent manager should be able to create a decent, coherent unit that can deal with a team as hopelessy mediocre as Thistle from the resources available.



A bit harsh E, but only in that the boys HAVE seemed more 'up for it'. Mind you that may have come from the Manager in Chief rather than DI.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 07:45:22
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 17 2008, 04:31 PM) [snapback]420956[/snapback]
is 0-0 draw and missing a penalty to win not dealing with a team like thistle? a draw was a fair result against a team who btw are rightly ahead of us in the league.

Thistle were abysmal.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 07:49:06
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Mar 17 2008, 07:00 PM) [snapback]421036[/snapback]
To address your points:
1) That was a pathetic opening point.
2) We have only seen them in a handful of games and while neither has set the heather alight, they have both performed well at a higher level, so hopefully it is just a case of them finding their feet. (I hope they do it quickly right enough!) Jenkins and McGuffie have not performed badly, they just have not been the saviours that some folk on here were misguidedly expecting.
3) Millar was subbed first because he was injured.
4) McAllister was playing left wing back, not left back. He is excellent with the ball at his feet, but to say he is creative and the best midfielder in the division is lying. His crossing needs improving and in general his passing could be improved as well. That is not to say he isn't a good player with a cracking work rate and commitment. If every Morton player had his work rate we would not be in the position we currently find ourselves in. Jim is not the best midfielder in the division at the moment, but I have no doubt that he will be a success if he moves onto Motherwell in the Summer. I don't know why he is not given the ball more often as he can beat a man which is something few (if any) other Morton players can do. Also, what makes you think he was unhappy with his role?

To address your points


1/ You think everything is just 'hunky dory'!
mortonjag 2008-03-18 07:52:47
QUOTE(The Bewilderedbeast @ Mar 17 2008, 07:58 PM) [snapback]421076[/snapback]
Just hope the "Thomsongate" game at Hamilton doesn't have a bearing on the final position
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Still awaiting an explanation.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 07:58:43
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 17 2008, 10:16 PM) [snapback]421135[/snapback]
As self promoted heid bummer and chief poster - you must be right!

Again - 'pished yourself laughing' - should you not be using tenna ladies?

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I will as soon as that Nickerless one puts them on prescription-NOT GOOD ENOUGH that poor old incontinent souls have to pad their perineums with yesterday's paper while neurotic, rich, and arrogant young smuts march into surgeries at 9 p.m. for check ups on their non existent lumps! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-18 08:39:31
QUOTE(SramTon @ Mar 18 2008, 12:39 AM) [snapback]421184[/snapback]
I would've replied earlier but my wife has worked back-shifts yesterday and this evening and I "agreed" to do some housework whilst she was away. As we know:
So I thought I better get on with the cleaning rather than waste time on here and risk getting my ass sued off me!

With regard to "legal qualifications", I've posted my profession several times on this board and its predecessors over the years. I'm not a qualified solicitor but I do work in the legal field, and I am professionally qualified with all but one of my professional exams relating to law.

I don't pretend to have any legal expertise outside a very narrow field, but within that field I know more than many qualified solicitors (and less than many others).

Anyway, returning to the (sub-sub-)topic:
Generally speaking, I am happy to concede the above statement. However, what you said at the outset, and what I do not concede is:
If you cannot think of a single example of an agreement that two parties could make that would not be legally bindingon either party, then I'm afraid we are going to have to agree to differ in our views smile.gif
Btw, my breath really is baited - you should try smelling it! Recommend a good mouthwash, doc?

Well that's settled a few issues then. We've been knocking lumps out of each other when you actually agree with me.

Once we can also agree on the definition of an 'agreement' we'll truly be in agreement I'd imagine.

An 'agreement' which subsequently was proven to be a 'non agreement' in Law, was surely never an 'agreement' in the first place.

Don't you agree?
mortonjag 2008-03-18 08:41:20
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 18 2008, 01:10 AM) [snapback]421187[/snapback]
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What are you frowning at Trumpet-away and do some work.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 08:43:04
QUOTE(midTONs @ Mar 17 2008, 10:17 PM) [snapback]421136[/snapback]
Willowman did indeed win it.

Where is he?
mortonjag 2008-03-18 08:45:30
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Mar 17 2008, 05:02 PM) [snapback]420977[/snapback]
Not sure exactly who, but what we need most is an Alex Williams type striker. Not saying we should get him personally, but he's certainly the type of striker we're crying out for.

We also need a big, powerful guy who'll win headers and put himself about - someone like, dare I say it, Brian Wake, although whether he is the answer or not is questionable.
And cover for those two. Punt Weatherson and we'll have a wee bit of money to use on replacements smile.gif

LEAFY is in that mould. No striker can strike unless he is supplied properly.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 08:49:41
QUOTE(piehutt @ Mar 17 2008, 06:35 PM) [snapback]421025[/snapback]
I really don't know who we are going to get, but we def need someone.

Weatherson is not consistent enough and Russell doesn't have enough to his game.
Wake is def not going to be the answer.

I think Brian Graham deserves more games, but I wouldn't say for sure that he's going to develop into a goal scorer at this level.

I am dissapointed that Russell hasn't worked out better, he scored barrell loads at Brechin. I don't think he's a lost cause and would prob get 15 goals a season for us - but he's too light weight and some games pass him by without him influencing it at all.

Considering Liam Buchannan came from a similar background at Cowden, he seems to have been a much better addition to the 1st division with Thistle.

Height 5' 11" weight 11 stones!

What to you want-a f*cking elephant in fitba' bits?
mortonjag 2008-03-18 08:51:01
QUOTE(Marc @ Mar 17 2008, 10:47 PM) [snapback]421155[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(C B @ Mar 17 2008, 07:33 PM) [snapback]421067[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Whoever we go for he will end up at Dundee anyway so its pretty pointless talking about it tongue.gif

laugh.gif That could be a good thing, again. Sturm unsure.gif

Poor old Shoogly was devastated when Sturm reneged! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-18 08:52:46
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 17 2008, 05:12 PM) [snapback]420983[/snapback]
Keenan will be back at Morton after next Saturday's game.

Good
mortonjag 2008-03-18 08:54:40
QUOTE(C B @ Mar 17 2008, 07:30 PM) [snapback]421062[/snapback]
s h i t t i n g m y s e l f blink.gif

Try some codeine phosphate CB!

Deano's not all bad-just much misunderstood.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 08:55:46
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Mar 17 2008, 09:19 PM) [snapback]421112[/snapback]
Certainly not the most gifted player we're likely to see but given the seasons about attitude and bottle now I'd give him a run out.

Never thought I'd say that but my standards are clearly dropping sad.gif

Saves making a mess.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 08:57:16
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 17 2008, 10:34 PM) [snapback]421144[/snapback]
Keenan's also a decent full back. Would give us a chance to switch to four at the back if needs be.

Correct-the best left back in the squad IMO.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 09:01:50
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Mar 18 2008, 08:56 AM) [snapback]421264[/snapback]
Did Keenan not try and stick the nut on McInally once as he was walking towards the tunnel when he was subbed?

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There was a minor altercation at Forthbank-a game in which JM's ineptitude was largely covered by blaming Deano for giving away a free kick, after which McInally subbed him when he'd hardly been on for ten minutes.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 09:04:43
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 18 2008, 08:22 AM) [snapback]421238[/snapback]
There was a blabbering old fool
his name was Mortonjag
16,000 posts all that has been proven is
he's nothing but a great big s***ebag.
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Are you OK Wordsworth?
mortonjag 2008-03-18 09:07:46
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Mar 18 2008, 08:33 AM) [snapback]421242[/snapback]
It's sickening when you look at what we could and should have taken from the two Clyde matches and the Jags game. Fexake!

Well you cant blame DI for one of those.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 09:09:51
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Mar 18 2008, 08:46 AM) [snapback]421255[/snapback]
Don't be silly ............ at Old Trafford they have personal servants that arrive at the toilet to wipe your arse then they personally read the number to you before handing you your delectable prawn sandwich.

Did you not know that? I thought it was common knowledge! ohmy.gif

With the same hand I presume.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 09:12:13
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 18 2008, 09:07 AM) [snapback]421270[/snapback]
Indeed. Jamie Stevenson is running the show that day. Templeman's height and ability to hold up the ball is giving the Stirling defence problems and we're 1-0 up. Twenty minutes to go McInally decides to go a bit more defensive, not really a bad thing, but taking off Jamie Stevenson, our most creative player, when perhaps taking off Millar was the thing to do, and then taking off Chris Templeman for Bobbly Linn, giving us two midgets upfront and losing any chance to give our defence an easy "out ball" when under pressure, completely handed the onus onto Stirling. Dean Keenan tries to make a tackle thirty yards from goal and draws a foul and Stirling go onto win 2-1. Easier to blame the young guy bursting a gut to make a tackle than the guy on the side who should have known better.

And what was even more unfair was the subsequent abuse Keenan got. He should have decked JM.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 09:13:49
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 18 2008, 09:07 AM) [snapback]421269[/snapback]
jealousy will get you nowhere, i can see you're sweating at the fact theres a new kid on the block ready to take your master of poetry position on this board.

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When does his first post arrive?
mortonjag 2008-03-18 09:23:11
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 18 2008, 08:37 AM) [snapback]421245[/snapback]
f***ing hell man 6.53 am!!! do you set your alarm so you can see what i'm upto?
btw cheques in the post donga wink.gif

Early to bed, and early to rise makes a man healthy, wealthy, and wise!
mortonjag 2008-03-18 09:25:06
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 18 2008, 08:15 AM) [snapback]421236[/snapback]
Is she planning DYI ??

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Dae yersel in!


I sincerely hope so Newt!
mortonjag 2008-03-18 09:28:58
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 18 2008, 08:36 AM) [snapback]421244[/snapback]
Heather Mills' rant came across as bitter and vindictive - the bit about having "only" £35k a year for her daughter was, um, priceless. And the bit about how it cost £17k for a first class return flight somewhere. Well, Heather, welcome to the real world. Why should you expect to sponge of someone else for the rest of your life? Even if it's true that he is also a nasty piece of work as someone has suggested.

With £25 million in the bank, the interest alone will be about £1.5 million a year at least and probably a good bit more than that. Enought to live in comfort. Get some dignity, you bloodsucking bitch.

I don't care too much for money

Money can't buy me love! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-18 09:34:19
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 18 2008, 09:18 AM) [snapback]421279[/snapback]
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soon....very soon.
watch your back, thats all im saying. tongue.gif

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Don't worry PT, I permanently wear body armour and a catheter bag.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 09:37:58
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 18 2008, 09:31 AM) [snapback]421287[/snapback]
I use a desktop when I am at my desk but when I am out I use my laptop to capture data directly which would otherwise go on paper and then have to be entered on the computer when I get back to the office. So its horses for courses.

One thing I do hate are these stupid finger pad point devices. Give me a good old mouse any day, particularly since optical ones will work on almost any surface where the old roller based ones needed a flat/mousemat suface.

I use an optical mouse on the laptop-much easier.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 09:39:54
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 18 2008, 09:33 AM) [snapback]421288[/snapback]
Rugby at Murrayfield - Scotland v England
CAN YE HEAR THEM SING?!
Ye come up here tae paradise, tae beat us at your game,
Aw'wind and piss and full o' s***, Yer aw the bloody same,
Ye caw yersels the champions, the nations most elite,
Scotland are the champions, Yuv just been f------ beat.

A game that wis invented, fur English gentlemen,
No Highland Jocks we tartan frocks, well bliddy think again,
A baw that's shapit like an egg, it's jist a stupit farse,
A suppose it maks it easier, tae ram right up yer arse.

So git back hame an lick yer wounds, yer a bunch o stupit fools,
It's time fur you tae cheat again, change the f------ rules,
Rugby, fitba, cricket tae, yer jist a shower o chancers,
Stick tae whit ye dae the best, you morris f------ dancers

Nothing wrong with Morris Dancing....




if you like that kind of thing.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 10:28:09
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Mar 18 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]421292[/snapback]
Christ! reading through this pash has been like watching Rumpole of the Bailey meets murder she wrote....ma brains numb noo......Simple question was, Chris Innes, could we get him, will he come? WE ONLY WANT AN ANSWER ON THIS DAMNED QUESTION NO CIVIL BLOODY PRE AGREEMENTS....geezuz bloody wept... blink.gif

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Aye if Shoogly offers enough munny and he AGREES, although it would have to be a proper agreement-you understand, not one of those agreements which isn't really an agreement because some quasi lawyer's heid's up his arse! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-18 10:31:50
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Mar 18 2008, 10:13 AM) [snapback]421295[/snapback]
Unfortunately not! In fact, I can't see beyond us finishing 9th this season as we have looked inconsistent at the back and toothless up front. And by missing out the midfield with long balls, we are missing out some of our best players. Also, bad luck (or unfortunate and unforseen events), allied to poor performances, seems to have typified our season. The last two games have been prime examples of that: the goal conceded against Clyde and the penalty being saved on Saturday in the last minute.

That said, the opening point in the opening post was a waste of time, throw-away remark.

A victory against Livi on Saturday would lift my spirits, but at the moment, I cannot see beyond us having an extended season.

Aye, but is it all Cappie's fault?
mortonjag 2008-03-18 10:36:23
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Mar 18 2008, 10:10 AM) [snapback]421293[/snapback]
Feck all to do with Rugby but was emailed this wee ditty the other day...

JIM O SHACHTER

Intae the wids amongst the trees
Jim bared his erse, his cheeks tae ease
Nae sooner had his breeks gan doon
Than s***ty flees were swarmin roon

Intae the wind he bared his baws
And frae his erse a big keech faws
The reek it curled amongst the trees
Twis enough tae mak the birdies sneeze
An a the beasts in burn and ditch
Got a whiff o something awfy rich

Big Jim he wis in awfy pain
It came out his erse like a nine pun wean
There wis a tear faw fae his ee
Fur a bigger s***e yould never see

Big Jims erse wis raw and sair
Says Big Jim ah wull s***e nae mair
Yonder it lay among the grit
A steemin, stinkin muckle s***

There it lay sae soft sae fresh
Nae hair, nae teeth, nae brains, nae flesh
Tae wipe his erse Jim yaised a docken
While a aroon the birds were boacken


Jim happed it ower wi stanes and stoor
Then sauntered off across the moor
A wee bit quicker wi bein sae light
Efter riddin himself o that muckle s***e

Noo ave telt ye this tale for a wee bit laughter
A tale ye can tell for ever after
A tell ye noo, a swear it€™s true
The tale o Jim o Shachter's poo.

Some of the expressions are as witty as the rhyming is crap.

I particularly like the couplet highlighted, though I guess it should be 'boakin'.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 10:40:33
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Mar 18 2008, 10:28 AM) [snapback]421301[/snapback]
no...it just makes my missus a happy womanbefore she goes to work in the morning tongue.gif

Does she shower thereafter or just walk funny all day?
mortonjag 2008-03-18 12:11:14
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Mar 18 2008, 11:29 AM) [snapback]421311[/snapback]
thats so the wrong question to ask.......

Just wondered-did I say something wrong?
mortonjag 2008-03-18 12:12:37
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 18 2008, 10:46 AM) [snapback]421306[/snapback]
i thought you were still talking about MJ there and your missus and being happy about it. ohmy.gif laugh.gif

Oh I'd imagine my missus is younger than Flights! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-18 12:15:00
QUOTE(centralTON @ Mar 18 2008, 11:35 AM) [snapback]421315[/snapback]
Was Joe's Garage not in Otago St, just off Great Western Rd. Have certainly been in it in the early-mid 80's, diner style food, very similar menu to the Filling Station / Littlejohns.

South Indian garlic chilli chicken takes a bit of beating, not as harsh on the ring next day. wink.gif

Coincidence-had one from Turban in Giffnock last Saturday-very hot on the palate but gentle on the arse.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 12:21:41
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Mar 18 2008, 12:11 PM) [snapback]421333[/snapback]
Joe's Garage was definitely on Border Street. It was owned by the guy who also owned the newsagent on Gibson Street. I new the girl he married. I am sure she competed at international level in the 400 m's. I realise both bits of information are of no interest. tongue.gif Just trying to provide credibility to my story. wink.gif

I've never heard of a 'Border St.' in Glasgow HT, though I'm sure I've heard of the 400m!


Where is/was it?
mortonjag 2008-03-18 12:24:25
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Mar 18 2008, 07:23 AM) [snapback]421216[/snapback]
Heather Mills only has one leg.

Hitler has only got one ball.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 12:30:08
QUOTE(Mr Toon @ Mar 18 2008, 11:20 AM) [snapback]421310[/snapback]
and if you want proof that this is not an unusual occurrence Craig Thomson is a lawyer!

As is his buddy pal Clark!

Thomson claims to be a specialist in construction law and is damned good at constructing stories.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 12:33:41
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 18 2008, 12:14 PM) [snapback]421335[/snapback]
I don't think he has legal experience

That's an awful shame.

It would have been nice if he'd understood the meaning of 'agreement'! ph34r.gif wacko.gif wub.gif dry.gif sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-18 12:37:01
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 18 2008, 11:55 AM) [snapback]421326[/snapback]
LoL I know it's strange.

BTW who said it was a guy in the suit? cool.gif

Of course it's not-it's your friend Santa Claus keeping fit for Christmas.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 12:38:03
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 18 2008, 12:31 PM) [snapback]421353[/snapback]
Erm...no.....we have taken their management and 2 players and may get more.

Who have we given them? wink.gif

Alibi, who may possibly prove to be worth more.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 12:39:55
QUOTE(Torro @ Mar 18 2008, 12:24 PM) [snapback]421348[/snapback]
were are you going to live ?

thing i always missed when living away was being able to get a nice big drink of good tasting water from the tap !

JAIL!
mortonjag 2008-03-18 12:45:13
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Mar 18 2008, 12:26 PM) [snapback]421350[/snapback]
Aye quite right. I meant to say Bank Street. Goodness knows what I was thinking.

Just as well I had my facts to back me up wink.gif

Don't worry HT, it happens to clever people too! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-18 12:49:01
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Mar 18 2008, 12:34 PM) [snapback]421355[/snapback]
Unashamedly stolen-

Hitler stood on the burning deck
His pocket full o' Haws
Wan fell down his trouser leg
And...paralysed his Baw......

We lay upon the grassy bank
My hands where all a quiver
I undid your suspender belt
And your leg fell in the river


(Sir Paul to Heather 2004)

We lay upon the grassy bank
I couldn't stop myself
I ran my fingers up your thigh
And cut them on a skelf.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 12:57:38
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 18 2008, 12:54 PM) [snapback]421365[/snapback]
But surely a feeder would be the one given the players? As in if someone fed lions meet they would be the feeder.

...ach who cares really?

The feeder feeds the one who is fed surely.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 12:59:23
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 18 2008, 12:54 PM) [snapback]421366[/snapback]
Probably because theirs looks like a team mascot tongue.gif

No it doesn't - it looks quite ridiculous.

Cappie looks like a nice stripey poosy.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 13:06:03 Much easier to think of what I wouldn't miss, which I can't put in writing.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 13:12:22
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Mar 18 2008, 12:58 PM) [snapback]421370[/snapback]
Chris Innes - f*** knows.
Agreements in Scots law?
Only dealing with this was a friend who had 'agreed' to buy a hotel several years ago which was concluded by handshake.
While in the process of dragging through some money grabbing b*****d of a lawyer the owner decided he did not want to sell his hotel after all.

Result - Court case which my pal won, secured compensation, although the sale of the hotel did not conclude they all lived happily ever after.

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I suspect, Barbarossa, that that 'agreement' may have been a 'real' agreement, and not of the SramTon type, the definition of which is still awaited.

When is an agreement not an agreement-when sram says so!

Agreements between two parties are binding under Scottish Law! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-18 13:14:32
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 18 2008, 01:10 PM) [snapback]421375[/snapback]
...ach who cares really?

The fed if the feeder stops feeding?
mortonjag 2008-03-18 13:17:08
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 18 2008, 01:09 PM) [snapback]421374[/snapback]
Whatever gets your EKG going wink.gif

EKG Puggs?


ECG or something more obscure?
mortonjag 2008-03-18 13:20:00
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 18 2008, 01:16 PM) [snapback]421378[/snapback]
yeah but id imagine his Grandchildren are younger than yours tongue.gif

If flight has grandchildren my missus is definitely younger than his.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 13:21:48
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 18 2008, 01:17 PM) [snapback]421379[/snapback]
Off to Jersey.

The tap water's another one actually. Notice that whenever I'm down south.

Full marks for perseverance.

Did you pack the bum padlock or just opt for the big vaseline tub?
mortonjag 2008-03-18 13:29:05
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 18 2008, 01:24 PM) [snapback]421389[/snapback]
An electrocardiogram (ECG or EKG, abbreviated from the German Elektrokardiogramm)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EKG wink.gif

I had to look up Wikipedia to get ECG from EKG, a term no self respecting Scottish physician would ever use.


History

Alexander Muirhead attached wires to a feverish patient's wrist to obtain a record of the patient's heartbeat while studying for his DSc (in electricity) in 1872 at St Bartholomew's Hospital.[4] This activity was directly recorded and visualized using a Lippmann capillary electrometer by the British physiologist John Burdon Sanderson.[5] The first to systematically approach the heart from an electrical point-of-view was Augustus Waller, working in St Mary's Hospital in Paddington, London.[6] His electrocardiograph machine consisted of a Lippmann capillary electrometer fixed to a projector. The trace from the heartbeat was projected onto a photographic plate which was itself fixed to a toy train. This allowed a heartbeat to be recorded in real time. In 1911 he still saw little clinical application for his work.

The breakthrough came when Willem Einthoven, working in Leiden, The Netherlands, used the string galvanometer invented by him in 1901, which was much more sensitive than the capillary electrometer that Waller used.[7]

Einthoven assigned the letters P, Q, R, S and T to the various deflections, and described the electrocardiographic features of a number of cardiovascular disorders. In 1924, he was awarded the Nobel Prize in Medicine for his discovery.[8]

Though the basic principles of that era are still in use today, there have been many advances in electrocardiography over the years. The instrumentation, for example, has evolved from a cumbersome laboratory apparatus to compact electronic systems that often include computerized interpretation of the electrocardiogram.[9]
mortonjag 2008-03-18 13:31:01
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 18 2008, 01:28 PM) [snapback]421392[/snapback]
I'm too old to need them in Jersey.

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OK then-you've convinced me!

Will you be giving us peace, or still spouting?
mortonjag 2008-03-18 13:36:38
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Mar 18 2008, 01:27 PM) [snapback]421391[/snapback]
It's all about the music, puggs, it's all about the music.

Academy = sh1t acoustics. Soul-less.

You DARE criticise the downstairs bar of the Barras?!?!? WITH THE 12 INCH TRANSVISION VAMP RECORD WITH WENDY JAMES LOOKING AS SHAGGABLE AS SHE EVER DID EVER!?!?!?

Away with you! smile.gif


shaggable



means f***able, but not as rude as. to describe someone who looks sexy, and you only want to have a sexual relationship and nothing more i.e one night stand



I just wanted to check Donga!

Is she also one of those les bean people?
mortonjag 2008-03-18 13:38:05 Our thoughts are with the shoal.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 13:39:48
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 18 2008, 01:34 PM) [snapback]421397[/snapback]
Aye but not only am I not a physician I am not very self respecting biggrin.gif

Don't believe all that stuff Fr. Murphy taught you Puggs-it's perfectly natural.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 13:43:29
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 18 2008, 01:41 PM) [snapback]421404[/snapback]
No I mean it might be a girl.
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she?
mortonjag 2008-03-18 13:44:38
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 18 2008, 01:40 PM) [snapback]421402[/snapback]
Gone to his final resting plaice

...and may Cod rest his sole.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 13:49:59
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 18 2008, 01:45 PM) [snapback]421408[/snapback]
The latest polls show that if there were a Westminster election tomorrow, the SNP would return about 27 MP's.

Wonder if they would topple Labour if it were a hung parliament ? rolleyes.gif

My latest poll shows that if Shipman was still alive he'd be coming to get you Spurtle, but don't believe a thing those polls tell you!
mortonjag 2008-03-18 13:54:09
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 18 2008, 01:51 PM) [snapback]421415[/snapback]
Dunno yet. Perhaps spouting but at less frequent intervals.

Just give the Ton a good press-I believe they're all French down there so they probably don't read the Tilly.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 13:56:39
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Mar 18 2008, 01:52 PM) [snapback]421420[/snapback]
I'm not sure, but I'm going to have a right good think about it.

I was thinking that it wouldn't really matter if she was a les bean as long as she let you shag her, but maybe that's too simple.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 14:01:54
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 18 2008, 01:48 PM) [snapback]421410[/snapback]

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F*CK THE SPL


F*CK THE OF
mortonjag 2008-03-18 14:03:35
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 18 2008, 01:52 PM) [snapback]421419[/snapback]
How sad.

Indeed-I hope you don't find it patronising when I try to make it less so for you darling. wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-18 14:06:26
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Mar 18 2008, 01:56 PM) [snapback]421423[/snapback]
Holy carp, I can't believe he is dead.

I actually found those adverts quite disturbing-all those innocent little cherubs following that old perv below decks to see what he could do with those big fishy fingers.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 14:32:34
QUOTE(centralTON @ Mar 18 2008, 02:30 PM) [snapback]421435[/snapback]
Are you and he not lookalikes?

No longer apparently. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-18 14:37:28
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 18 2008, 02:16 PM) [snapback]421430[/snapback]
God you're boring. Was that seriously meant to be amusing in any way?
The sadness to which I was referring, as well you know, was your dull, unfulfilled, dismal and tiresome existence.

Less of the irreverence mortal, and please stop taking the Jag seriously, even if you can't apply the same principle to yourself.

Life's too short-have a laugh-your face muscles may hurt initially but with practice you'll get to enjoy it!
mortonjag 2008-03-18 14:39:26
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Mar 18 2008, 02:30 PM) [snapback]421436[/snapback]
Whatever floats your boat. unsure.gif

Or in Shoogly's case, raises his mast!
mortonjag 2008-03-18 14:41:01
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Mar 18 2008, 02:35 PM) [snapback]421439[/snapback]
"When he eventually did retire from the role, actor Thomas Pescod took over. "

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Never quite scaled the original heights.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 14:46:23
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 17 2008, 09:17 PM) [snapback]421111[/snapback]
I think many would say a penalty is down to luck also blink.gif

Common misconception. Goalies nowadays usually decide which way to go, and you may have noticed during your crystal ball gaze last Sunday that De Vries sent McGregor the wrong way-or at least waited for him to move before coolly stroking the ball into the other corner. Penalty taking is an art.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 14:54:43
QUOTE(centralTON @ Mar 18 2008, 02:46 PM) [snapback]421447[/snapback]
Was not doubting your credibility, Honor, just getting my bearings wrong, Bank St is not far from Otago St. Spent a lot of time in the West End early-mid 80's and have been in many eateries in, and around the Hillhead / Woodlands area, but, with that being nearly 25 years ago, combined with the amount of bars we used to frequent, it's all gone a bit fuzzy.

Otago St is one street East of, and parallel to Bank St. Both run between Gt. W. Rd. and Gibson St.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 15:02:11
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 18 2008, 02:51 PM) [snapback]421450[/snapback]
He doesn't finish the chances he gets.

Really-tell that to a Brechin fan young Deegan.

All strikers miss chances-that Hun Boyd has been getting pelters all season-still won them the game on Sunday, and he'll be GOD for a week.

Only as good as your last game and if LEAFY gets the proper supply on Saturday he'll score. There again Wake may be on instead of him. After all he won us a penalty last week!!!!!

mortonjag 2008-03-18 15:13:31
QUOTE(cmdc @ Mar 18 2008, 02:57 PM) [snapback]421456[/snapback]
So long as the parties to the agreement intend to create legal obligations. If, for example, I come to an agreement with my dad to build him a wall in his garden (I have no building skills so this is highly unlikely) this may or may not be legally enforceable depending on the circumstances, one of which being the intention between me and my dad for the agreement to have legal consequences.

Ignorance of the law is no excuse. I'm afraid you're just falling into the same trap as others have done.

If you can actually explain what you mean I'll try to understand.

The law IS the law and nobody is exempt from it. Thus agreements, promises, pacts, contracts, arrangements-call them what you will-made between two parties are binding in Scottish law irrespective of knowledge by the parties of the current legislation.

You can't drive through red lights with 'the intention of that not having legal consequences'!
mortonjag 2008-03-18 15:16:07
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 18 2008, 03:11 PM) [snapback]421470[/snapback]

Shortest strike in history-nothing seems to last down Gretna way.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 15:22:27
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 18 2008, 03:03 PM) [snapback]421464[/snapback]
CODE
Sorry, you're right I'm not funny and really quite boring.

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Are you not even going to try?




Bring me sunshine in your smile, bring me laughter all a while
In this world where we live there should be more happiness
So much joy you can give to each brand new bright tomorrow
Make me happy through the years never bring me any tears
Let your arms be as warm as the sun from up above
Bring me fun bring me sunshine and bring me love

Bring me sunshine in your eyes, bring me rainbows from the clear blue skies
Life's too short to be spent having anything but fun
We can be so content if we gather little sunbeams

Be light hearted darlin' all day long keep me singing a happy song
Let your arms be as warm as the sun from up above
Bring me fun bring me sunshine and bring me love

Bring me sunshine in your smile, bring me laughter all a while
In this world where we live there should be more happiness
So much joy you can give to each brand new bright tomorrow
Make me happy through the years never bring me any tears
Let your arms be as warm as the sun from up above
Bring me fun bring me sunshine.... bring me love

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mortonjag 2008-03-18 15:24:19
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 18 2008, 02:44 PM) [snapback]421446[/snapback]
I guess he is sleeping with the fishes.
took me hours to come up with that one rolleyes.gif

You're better at the odes.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 15:27:18
QUOTE(princessTON @ Mar 18 2008, 03:21 PM) [snapback]421476[/snapback]
i prefer laptops because thats what i use biggrin.gif

...and Morton because that's who you support!
mortonjag 2008-03-18 15:31:33
QUOTE(princessTON @ Mar 18 2008, 03:25 PM) [snapback]421482[/snapback]
i just seen how many posts you've done today ohmy.gif 105!!! your a sad man tongue.gif

Stop stalking me child-now where was I-oh yes



Bring me sunshine in your smile, bring me laughter all a while
In this world where we live there should be more happiness
So much joy you can give to each brand new bright tomorrow
Make me happy through the years never bring me any tears
Let your arms be as warm as the sun from up above
Bring me fun bring me sunshine and bring me love

Bring me sunshine in your eyes, bring me rainbows from the clear blue skies
Life's too short to be spent having anything but fun
We can be so content if we gather little sunbeams
Be light hearted darlin' all day long keep me singing a happy song
Let your arms be as warm as the sun from up above
Bring me fun bring me sunshine and bring me love

Bring me sunshine in your smile, bring me laughter all a while
In this world where we live there should be more happiness
So much joy you can give to each brand new bright tomorrow
Make me happy through the years never bring me any tears
Let your arms be as warm as the sun from up above
Bring me fun bring me sunshine.... bring me love



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mortonjag 2008-03-18 16:18:48
QUOTE(cmdc @ Mar 18 2008, 03:40 PM) [snapback]421485[/snapback]
What I am saying is not to do with legislation, but with the agreement between the parties themselves.

If two parties come to an agreement, then that agreement will only be legally enforceable where the parties intend for their agreement to be legally enforceable. This is an objective test applied by the court. In some cases, such as business agreements, it will be presumed that agreements are legally enforceable. In other situations, for example between family members (like building a wall for my dad) it will be presumed that there was NO intention to create legal obligations (in other words, to enforce the agreement, upon breach, in the courts). In both cases the presumption can be overturned by giving evidence to the contrary.

This is about two parties creating obligations between themselves, not criminal law, which the road traffic offence would be.

Firstly I'd like to thank you for answering in a civilised manner.

I'm still confused-I've no doubt that you are quoting the principle, but I still cannot quite get my head round the concept of 'evidence' overturning the presumption in business arrangements that they are legally enforceable (as in the Chris Millar situation).

I stated at the outset that all agreements under Scottish Law are legally binding.

Perhaps I should have said 'All agreements under Scottish Law are legally binding except those in which there was no intention by either party to enforce on breach, in the courts'.

Mind you that is still puzzling-if there was 'no intention to sue upon breach' how could the matter ever come to court?

If it was because one party changed his mind he'd be in breach of the original understanding (not to sue), and bringing the case to court would be frivolous.

Furthermore, in the sense that the agreement in its totality incorporated the understanding 'not to sue', in throwing the case out, the court would be UPHOLDING the original agreement.


No?
mortonjag 2008-03-18 17:44:05
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 18 2008, 04:33 PM) [snapback]421502[/snapback]
Dear Doctor Jag,

My wife said she intended to let me have sex with her on Saturday night. When Saturday night came she had a headache and in any event regarded 'Dancing on Ice' as a better offer.

Please let me have your guidance on how to sue for compensation or alternatively settle for doing it twice next Saturday

If your agreement incorporated the understanding that you could sue in the event of breach, simply 'phone your nearest friendly lawyer. I'm sure you'll find his fees are similar to your own. Compensation will of course depend on an estimate of your physical/psychological loss in material terms, and you may not be able to expect very much. (I've not met your good lady, and haven't a clue how long it is since you last got your hole).

If your agreement incorporated the understanding that you could not sue in the event of breach and you attempt to sue, I suspect the court will find that you are in breach of the original agreement (which incorporated the clause regarding non litigation).

If neither of you gave a thought to circumstances in which legal action might have been applicable, you could perhaps attempt to sue her, but might be better settling for two shots next Saturday-though I'd suggest you get it in writing this time.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 18:00:15
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 18 2008, 04:15 PM) [snapback]421494[/snapback]
He's not attention seeking at all is he rolleyes.gif

Correct sweetheart-just an old soul who prefers sharing his vast knowledge and wisdom-and the odd bit of friendly banter with his fellow Ton supporters-most of whom DO have a sense of humour- to vegetating in front of the telly, or spending the day and much money in the pub.

You've never quite got over the couple of pastings I gave you-I do understand that-but please try.

We could have such a lovely friendship-really we could-we have a lot in common you know-what with me having been brought up in Kilmacolm where I was Dux of the local primary, (how did you fare at school my angel), and our mutual knowledge of the Shawlands area.

Good gracious, I could even have you up for a cuppa one day. I'm sure the Monkey and Fing would make you very welcome, and as the good lady would be out at work, we could become really friendly.

You're very welcome. wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-18 18:08:41 You'll notice that it's our football afficionados and snobs who dislike the Deano- the empty Harrods bag carriers of Cappielow!

In terms of EFFECTIVENESS he's actually done pretty well relative to the number of hours he's got on the pitch.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 18:11:59
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 18 2008, 06:07 PM) [snapback]421560[/snapback]
Cute.

Would you like to join us young man. One lump or two, or shall I check in person?
mortonjag 2008-03-18 18:14:07
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 18 2008, 05:50 PM) [snapback]421548[/snapback]
i find it hard to comprehend how you can get any kicks out of being such a total fud. you put such effort into it and the mask never slips.

i conclude that you really are a total fud.

You DO have a fatal fascination for my posts which is immensely gratifying.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 18:18:20
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 18 2008, 04:12 PM) [snapback]421492[/snapback]
I don't believe in these polls in general, all they do is give an indication of how people will vote. I know it's all down to those who bother to vote on election day.
So keep yer blood pressure pills in the bottle. I'm just speculating that's all ! wink.gif

I notice how you back off immediately I mention Dr Shipman! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-18 18:22:10
QUOTE(Mick @ Mar 18 2008, 04:31 PM) [snapback]421501[/snapback]
For me, the best curry houses in Glasgow are as follows:

Kebabish (Victoria Rd)
The Village (Tradeston)

Both of these are v good, informal places to get great grub. I would recommend the Lamb Achari in both. They're also relatively inexpensive (The Village is v cheap).

For something a little bit more upmarket, you can't go wrong with Mother India (Westminster Terrace, I think). It's a little bit cramped, but the food is superb. The Turban in Giffnock gets an excellent reputation but I've never been.

Closer to home, the Taj in Gourock is good but I personally prefer Priya Palace.

That's my local-I recommend a try. it's quite hard to find a BAD curry house in Glasgow. I've only been in the 'Taj' once and was not impressed that much TBH-not bad, but nothing special.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 18:30:42
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Mar 18 2008, 06:09 PM) [snapback]421563[/snapback]
I met him to, that oak desk in the office highly polished lol. Its like an alladins den in there! Wouldnt part with any sweeties tho!

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mortonjag 2008-03-18 18:35:09
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 18 2008, 06:24 PM) [snapback]421581[/snapback]
Of course I would like to join you, although please stay away from my bollocks this time.

Then I shall-we'll have to await confirmation from Mr Morecambe that he'll be coming too!
mortonjag 2008-03-18 18:42:33
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 18 2008, 06:19 PM) [snapback]421575[/snapback]
considering you've polluted this board with your repellent, pompous pish well over a hundred times in the last 24 hours - almost 20% of the total number of posts - it would be pretty f***ing hard to miss you.

and i'll take that as an admission that you get your kicks from ruining this board.

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Still running scared of pms from other wee lassies you've offended?

Neighbours stopped shagging yet?

Try to ignore my posts if they upset you-you're obviously far too sensitive.

I find your posts singularly self gratifying and dismissive Narcissus, but I'd never dream of suggesting that you 'ruin the board'.

Live and let live, and when all else fails, go and read one of those novels you keep boring me bumming on about. Escapism is good for those who find life turbulent. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-18 18:43:29
QUOTE(Putonmatea @ Mar 18 2008, 06:36 PM) [snapback]421610[/snapback]
Le Chien Manquee,

For what its worth I totally and wholeheartedly agree. Well said indeed! The guy (MJ) is clearly a complete and utter fud.
I can`t actually believe he is as big a walluper as he quite clearly is.
He seems to have to get the last word in all the time no matter what.
Totally ridiculous and a waste of space and everyones time.

MJ PLEASE SHUT UP AND ACT YOUR OWN AGE.

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mortonjag 2008-03-18 18:47:01
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Mar 18 2008, 06:44 PM) [snapback]421626[/snapback]
(bread) crumbs...hes r(eel)ay dead...ah well his (fish) tea was oot for a long time...hes had his chips

Hope he wasn't battered to death
mortonjag 2008-03-18 18:52:44
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 18 2008, 06:48 PM) [snapback]421634[/snapback]
Maybe he finds it more polite to answer everyone individualy! smile.gif Either that or it's to increase his sperm count! smile.gif

What would I want to do that for Mr Deegan?

I've asked the Dong to spell out how to reply to multiple posts, and he's not come back yet. FFS many a man of my age can't even use a computer.

I do think that on many occasions it IS more polite to reply individually, mind you.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 18:55:44
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 18 2008, 06:49 PM) [snapback]421635[/snapback]
Did the Flintstones cartoon programme from years ago not have the words "lets have a gay old time" in it's theme tune ? unsure.gif






Flintstones, meet the Flintstones
They're the modern stone-age family
From the town of Bedrock
They're a page right out of history

Let's ride with the family down the street
Through the courtesy of Fred's two feet
When you're with the Flintstones
Have a yabbadabbadoo time, a dabbadoo time
We'll have a gay old time

Someday, maybe Fred will win the fight
Then that cat will stay out for the night
When you're with the Flintstones
Have a yabbadabbadoo time, a dabbadoo time
We'll have a gay old time

We'll have a gay old time
mortonjag 2008-03-18 18:57:54
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 18 2008, 06:55 PM) [snapback]421650[/snapback]
what a total arse. for years now every single thread on this board has had your pish splattered all over it. if you think it's just me who thinks you are a tedious old c***, you're mistaken. this board has become a showpiece for your ego, and even though you claim regularly that it's an alter ego, it's still just amounts to a pile of irritating pish. and it's not even funny - ever. although i suspect you know that.

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mortonjag 2008-03-18 19:00:07
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 18 2008, 06:57 PM) [snapback]421652[/snapback]
Cheers Doc, you beat me to it tongue.gif

Nae bother Spurtle-I'm just sadder, older, and better at spoiling threads for self indulgent little prats with no respect for their elders and betters! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-18 19:05:52
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 18 2008, 07:01 PM) [snapback]421660[/snapback]
Don't read it then. blink.gif

It takes a while for things to dawn on him-not that he's daft-far from it-just that he's so far up his own arse that he can't bear the thought of anyone being better than him at anything.

Someone who's clearly better than him at everything, and immensely modest with it, makes him a confused little boy. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-18 19:08:40
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 18 2008, 06:55 PM) [snapback]421646[/snapback]
Obviously, I meant to say post count, not sperm count.

mortonjag, to reply to multiple posts:

Click 'quote', not 'reply' under every post you want to quote. Then click 'reply' down at the bottom of the page. wink.gif

So I click 'quote' for every post I want to reply to BEFORE I do anything else.

I then scroll down to the very bottom of the page and click reply.

Will each quote then come up separately, allowing me to reply individually?
mortonjag 2008-03-18 19:18:19
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Mar 18 2008, 07:05 PM) [snapback]421667[/snapback]
Dean Keenan is a poor footballer and no amount of pathetic jibes about empty Harrods bag carriers is going to change that. He runs about like a headless chicken flying into tackles. As SALC said you could pick someone out from the Cowshed and they would run about flying into tackles.

We have failings in midfield but, for me, Dean Keenan is certainly not the answer.

I'm not sure that poking fun is necessarily indulging in 'pathetic jibes'-it does seem to have hit a raw nerve mind you!

The fact is Jonaton that in terms of effectiveness our so called 'better' footballers have GROSSLY flattered to deceive over the past two or three seasons, and the standard of football we play is pretty poor anyway.

I don't think Deano is Serie A material, but he's put in several decent shifts for the Ton, and anybody who simply dismisses him as useless is IMHO concentrating totally on his bad points.

Perhaps the fact that he DOESN'T hide makes them more obvious, but if many of the other squad members demonstrated half the commitment he does, we'd not be in our current sorry predicament.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 19:20:29
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 18 2008, 07:10 PM) [snapback]421674[/snapback]
i was just admiring your new petard, grasshopper - you clearly haven't got the hang of it yet biggrin.gif

Then why didn't you say so?
mortonjag 2008-03-18 19:21:03
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 18 2008, 07:11 PM) [snapback]421677[/snapback]
They will come up in one post, you type between the quotes!

Here to help! wink.gif

TY!
mortonjag 2008-03-18 19:22:00 Does he think I am Vikington?
mortonjag 2008-03-18 19:25:08
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 18 2008, 07:19 PM) [snapback]421693[/snapback]
now that raised a smile. i don't believe it was deliberate, though.

anyway, i won't be replying to this thread again, it's just three pages of crap and deserves to pass off the front page asap. i'm sure you'll do your best to keep it here, but i won't be helping you.

the board was split in two because the pure football guys didn't like the off-topic stuff, i'm sure if any of them are still around they must be dying for a mentaljag board.

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Excellent.

mortonjag 2008-03-18 19:28:06
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 18 2008, 07:23 PM) [snapback]421701[/snapback]
Hey, come on! Remember what I taught you?

Aye Deego, but give me a chance-I was replying to one before I saw the next there. I promise to do better!
mortonjag 2008-03-18 19:30:16
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Mar 18 2008, 07:17 PM) [snapback]421688[/snapback]
I think that's an excellent assessment of the situation with Iain Russell.

Pat Clarke has made the same jump and looks like he may be making an impact similar to the one Buchanan has made.

Do you think LEAFY is too lightweight?
mortonjag 2008-03-18 19:33:44
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 18 2008, 07:29 PM) [snapback]421716[/snapback]
Come on man!

I take a while to learn. I will try this new fangled technique in the morning. Usually there are about four or five abusive posts on at least one thread! People are just SO jealous, and it's extremely hurtful. sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-18 19:41:40
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Mar 18 2008, 07:32 PM) [snapback]421722[/snapback]
As a striker, there are games where things just click for you and the game goes your way, in a half decent side you might get a game like that 1 in every 4. Its the ability to knuckle down and do your best to influence a game where things aren't going your way that marks you out as an above average striker. Russell hasn't really shown so far that he can do that, when the balls breaking for him he can look fairly decent, but a lot of the time so far games have passed him by, as someone said, without him really influencing it in anyway.

Agreed M4RKO, but I really can't see what you expect him to do if his fellow players are totally devoid of a clue as to how to play to his strengths.

The boy gets caught offside FAR too much, and it's NOT always his fault, and how often has he had the luxury of playing a twin striker role for 90 minutes.

It's always easy to home in on scapegoats when a squad is just not performing.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 19:42:57
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 18 2008, 07:36 PM) [snapback]421726[/snapback]
Your so funny, Russell is 5 foot 11 and according to GMFC - Chris Millar is 5 Foot 9 inches tall!!

Someones standing on the measuring tape!!!!!!

5 ft 11 - ha



...and 11 stones Santa!
mortonjag 2008-03-18 19:47:08
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 18 2008, 07:33 PM) [snapback]421723[/snapback]
i did, it just went over your head rolleyes.gif

I read what you said and am well aware of the definition and connotations of the word petard.

Nothing goes over my head Trumpet, be it petard, bunnet, or giraffes baws.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 19:50:13
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Mar 18 2008, 07:46 PM) [snapback]421738[/snapback]
Yes.

If he is actually 5' 11" (5' 10" from what I can see) and 11 stones then he is even more guilty as he allows himself to be bullied off the ball too easily and doesn't put himself about enough considering his height and weight.

That does not make him any less heavy!
mortonjag 2008-03-18 19:51:43
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 18 2008, 07:47 PM) [snapback]421742[/snapback]
an eleven stone santa! defo a lightweight

Weatherstone must be about 6 foot 11 and 18 stone if Russel is 5ft 11

Well I suppose not everything on GMFC.net is accurate, but people are happy to quote anything in writing to suit their purposes!
mortonjag 2008-03-18 19:59:20
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Mar 18 2008, 07:37 PM) [snapback]421727[/snapback]
The jibe in itself didn't hit a raw nerve, the obnoxious manner in which you deliver them does though.

I can see why people do like him as he puts in herculean amounts of effort but I don't think that's enough to merit a starting place.

I definitely wouldn't have Dean in ahead of Millar or Jenkins. I'm not a big McLaughlin fan but I still think he does a better job in there than Keenan would. I'd even think about putting Alex Walker in there ahead of him.

Hmm-don't you think that's slightly contradictory. I can assure you I neither intended my comment as a 'jibe' nor to be obnoxious.

I DO believe many people discredit Deano purely on his very evident bad points, while totally ignoring his UNDOUBTED value.

I suspect that those people are what I think of as football 'snobs'. I'm not even certain that football snobs are any less entitled to their opinions than the common 5/8ths, but in terms of the Morton of recent years, I'd suggest that snobbery is inappropriate.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 20:07:22
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Mar 18 2008, 08:00 PM) [snapback]421753[/snapback]
Ah f**k Sram.

That is like inviting an addict to a coke party. laugh.gif tongue.gif

You realise what you have done here, MJ will be at at 17000 posts by lunchtime tomorrow.

MJ, your turn now. laugh.gif

laugh.gif

Well it seems that the 'lawyer' has now climbed out of his irovy ivory tower, and is hiding round the corner with baited bated breath hoping that I'll fall for one of the most ridiculous propositions of all time.

'Anyway, I've had enough of this now' says all I need to hear.

mortonjag 2008-03-18 20:09:33
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Mar 18 2008, 08:03 PM) [snapback]421755[/snapback]
Someone found 50p for the meter ?

Pearce just re-discovered the switch when he heard the SPL's proposed fee.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 20:12:30
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 18 2008, 08:02 PM) [snapback]421754[/snapback]
Why is this even being discussed? It's blatantly obvious that he's not in the top 3 central midfielders at the club...

In fact Jenkins, Millar, Stevenson, McGuffie, McGregor, Walker, McLaughlin and you can include McAlister as he has played there a few times, are all far better options than Dean.

And I say that as someone who cringes every time I hear "Number 3 - Scott McLaughlin" read out.

On paper!


He's arguably a better left back than the lot of them.
mortonjag 2008-03-18 20:22:38
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 18 2008, 07:41 PM) [snapback]421730[/snapback]
You must love being bored

Depends who's doing the boring!

Do you think I gained my knowledge of DIY from being bored Santa. Remember I slipped off for a couple of months, and Mummy now has a lovely new kitchen-EVERYTHING-done by myself-which saved lots and lots of MUNNY!

I normally get an hour or so on my guitar during the day, and of course I complete the Herald cryptic crossword which sometimes uses up half an hour.

Please don't fall into the trap of imagining I'm weary-I'm retired remember-with lots of lovely time on my hands. I could do a daily diary for a week but I'm not sure that would go down too well!

Anyway-how's the project going? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-19 06:34:27
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 18 2008, 08:20 PM) [snapback]421777[/snapback]
Rubbish, mortonjag, Queen of the South signed Alibi first.

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Mr Chishom has an important cup tie soon-he and Mr Rae are doing extremely well with limited resources it seems.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 06:35:46
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 18 2008, 09:28 PM) [snapback]421831[/snapback]
I think you will find that it was you who quoted the figures! does that make you a sado statistician???

I don't believe weight to be a KPI for a striker!
mortonjag 2008-03-19 06:57:46
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Mar 18 2008, 10:53 PM) [snapback]421875[/snapback]
Fair enough.

I think Dean's bad points far outweigh his good points. I'd be interested to know what you think Keenan's strengths are?

Using your description of those who don't like Keenan type players as snobs I've always thought Morton fans were inverted football snobs. Valuing hard work and graft over players with actual ability who try that little bit less when not in possession (Andy Ritchie being the exception rather than the rule). I thought Kevin Twaddle was brilliant but all I ever heard was older men moaning about how lazy he was.

I'd rather have a player who can actually play than a clogger who just runs about kicking people. What I do concede is that you have to have someone like that, particularly in a relegation battle. But I don't think Keenan is that guy. I think his tackles are rash and stupid rather than hard and well timed. The prime example was the free kick he gave away against Stirling Albion.

Let me draw an analogy JonaTon.

The much maligned Russian Lada, and the grossy overrated Italian Ferrari. If you're a car enthusiast you'll know exactly what I mean.

In purist terms the Ferrari leaves the Lada without a name-it is the epitome of engineering excellence with stunning design and unsurpassed performance. On song it is just breathtaking in every way. Unfortunately the Ferrari has a dark side. It's notoriously fussy and unreliable-just when you need it most-when the chips are down and you have to make that deadline, it's liable to 'stop playing' without warning.

The Lada is an ugly beast albeit sharing some of its genetics with the Ferrari-it doesn't look the part, it's noisy and unpretentious-frankly cheap and nasty-something any self respecting motorist wouldn't be seen dead in, but it generally keeps going, demands little, and will get you to your journey's end safely, if unspectacularly.

If you want to enjoy Ferrari, you go to the Grand Prix, but it's f*ck all use at the Stock Car racing.

The footballing Grand Prix is the World Cup. We're struggling at the bottom of the Scottish second division.

mortonjag 2008-03-19 07:03:03
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Mar 18 2008, 09:55 PM) [snapback]421847[/snapback]
Just to think, we could have been playing Aberdeen in the Semi's....



Sadly it doesn't work that way Iain, and sadly applying the same principle we could win automatic relegation! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-19 07:06:59
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 18 2008, 10:55 PM) [snapback]421876[/snapback]
My strife and familiars.

You get used to it after a while DE!
mortonjag 2008-03-19 07:23:58
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 18 2008, 09:59 PM) [snapback]421850[/snapback]
In the toilet - Walls are all cladded - original flooring is now complete, all drains and plumbing are in place for the sink, loo, shower and bath - we have an issue with the bath taps (it's a roll top and I would rather they were presented on the walll above the bath than on top of the bath)

Chimney was swept, how ever the lumb failed the smoke bomb test - needs copex and chimney pointed (!!! - one step forward and three back) - so fireplace not fitted today!

3 carpets fitted today in the upstairs bedrooms

Tomorrow I will be:

1. Laying the laminate in the bathroom
2. Fitting the loo
3. Fitting the sink

Along with an army of folks decending to deep clean the house and prepare for the move on Thursday

Within one hour of the skip arriving, it was full! and needs to be picked up tomorrow

If I knew how to post pictures on this site - I would share some with you!

Another day - another couple of grey hairs (and general stress levels reducing - this is more fun than working!)

Thanks for the interest



I'm getting all excited just reading this. I hope you're laying ceramic effect laminate and not wid --if the walls are all wid -or it will end up looking like a sauna!!!

If the bath is already pre-drilled for taps just buy blanks and run the pipes up behind a wee false panel made with your T & G offcuts.


QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 18 2008, 10:52 PM) [snapback]421873[/snapback]
I need a kitchen fitted as well!!!!!!!!

Hmm-now I'm salivating!!!

QUOTE(M4RKO @ Mar 18 2008, 11:09 PM) [snapback]421885[/snapback]
A couple of months to fit a kitchen??? Were you doing it in the dark?


I wasn't fitting a kitchen M4RKO. I took a large kitchen back to bare floor, walls and ceiling-stuck in new windows and doors, re-wired, and re-plumbed the lot (recessed spotlights etc) ceramic tiled the walls and floor, and then fitted the fully integrated kitchen (supplied by Howdens at Cappielow).

The whole job was done for less than £6000, and I reckon the value of the property has now increased by at least £20,000 which makes my work worth £140,000 p.a.

That's not bad for a sad slevering old c*nt who spends all day spouting into a footie forum and catheter bag-eh! sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-19 07:27:10
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Mar 18 2008, 11:21 PM) [snapback]421892[/snapback]
The dull ache in my lower gut is starting already - f*** me that was hot.

Delhi belly strikes again!
mortonjag 2008-03-19 07:29:54
QUOTE(capitanus @ Mar 19 2008, 12:13 AM) [snapback]421908[/snapback]
The Poll Tax on Wheels.

This will be the straw which will break the camels back as far as New Labour is concerned.

In terms of the private motorist I very much doubt it-it IS really just a secondary income tax.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 07:31:42
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 19 2008, 12:14 AM) [snapback]421909[/snapback]
Not that there is anything wrong with that.

smile.gif

You think it's OK for real live pufes to use our forum?

What about the les beans?
mortonjag 2008-03-19 07:36:41 Music appreciation should be, like all forms of art appreciation, in the senses of the recipient.

We are all, to a greater or lesser degree pre-conditioned by the media and peer pressure.

In absolute terms I think the quality of modern 'pop' music is extremely poor when compared to the 60's and 70's.

That is my considered and unbiased opinion FACT.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 07:45:13 mortonjag 2008-03-19 08:39:58
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 19 2008, 08:06 AM) [snapback]421934[/snapback]
The only way Salmond would have a limited future is if someone takes him out in a JFK type of way.

And let's face it, I wouldn't put that past the brits either ohmy.gif

There again Spurtle-you must remember that vaulting ambition that o'er leaps itself-time for you to acknowledge the large number of SNP sympathisers including myself who are becoming increasingly disappointed by Bawheid's self indulgent ego trip.

Yet another report in today's Herald exposes the depths of complicity plumbed by our First Minister in the Trump affair.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 08:43:51
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 19 2008, 08:02 AM) [snapback]421933[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Not often I get a laugh this time of the morning !

Scottish nationalism, I'll give you that one. Homo's ?? I didn't start the thread.I don't have a problem with them, although I don't think it's quite natural for same sex relationship's. Cliff Richard.......well you have all his album's not me tongue.gif

Rampant homophobia!
mortonjag 2008-03-19 08:46:55
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Mar 19 2008, 08:15 AM) [snapback]421935[/snapback]
Not yet.... smile.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

TY and I won't even bother to edit it-I guess that just about sums up how I feel right now!
mortonjag 2008-03-19 08:48:44
QUOTE(The Shuffler @ Mar 19 2008, 08:15 AM) [snapback]421936[/snapback]
Who's all going & what questions (if any ) will you be asking, or would like to hear asked .

I believe everybody's going except me!
mortonjag 2008-03-19 09:03:42
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 19 2008, 08:58 AM) [snapback]421946[/snapback]
Why would they be a fridges favourite? They don't go in the fridge huh.gif

What don't go in a fridge?
mortonjag 2008-03-19 09:34:10
QUOTE(midTONs @ Mar 19 2008, 09:25 AM) [snapback]421959[/snapback]
Washing my hair? unsure.gif

Missus is not home from work untill 8.10pm, then is a 15 -20 minute drive from Gourock to Port Glasgow. Unless I get a baby sitter It wouldn't be worth the bother.

s***EBAG
mortonjag 2008-03-19 09:44:34
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 19 2008, 09:22 AM) [snapback]421957[/snapback]
Sugerpuffs!

Go on....make in into a gay thing, I'm sure that's what you have planned rolleyes.gif

Why am I consistently accused of hidden agendas?

I asked a simple question, and get abuse as usual.

Sugar puffs could go into my fridge no bother-singly-in a bowl with or without milk, or in the packet-but I avoid tooth rotting pap in favour of home made porridge.

Half a mug of oatmeal (not porridge oats) soaked overnight in two and a half mugs of (preferably filtered) water, and heated in the microwave on full power, whisking vigorously every so often till it boils, makes you a big hearty bowl, and costs pennies.

It will also make you grow up into a big strong boy.

Sugar puffs are for fairies.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 09:47:27
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 19 2008, 09:38 AM) [snapback]421964[/snapback]
Get Mortonjag to do it, i hear he's free tonight.

Mortonjag is not allowed near children.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 09:48:31
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 19 2008, 09:41 AM) [snapback]421969[/snapback]
to be fair that other thread wasnt about questions that were going to be asked, it was about why MJ wasn't going? i'd still like to know what people are thinking of asking.

One thing i want to know about is if we're stil interested in Paul Mcgowan and if not, why not?

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mortonjag 2008-03-19 09:52:05
QUOTE(Yoda @ Mar 19 2008, 09:48 AM) [snapback]421973[/snapback]
Last night I was struggling to think what to have for "the tea" so on the way home I went into the corner shop thinking I would pick up some chicken or something, and there it was, sitting on a shelf, the wee can glistening in the reflected flourecent lighting.

Plumrose Bacon Grill, oh, fried egg, potato scone, beans, fried tomato, mushrooms and onion......mmmmmm

Then I looked at the can ... 28% fat but it is only once in a while and I did grill it. But it got me to wondering apart from waking up the morning after the night before knowing that you were drunk enough to have eaten a donner - what other food gets your tastebuds going when you know it shouldn't?

My most disgusting fad is raw black pudding. When I was a kid, if I got a puddin' supper as a treat I used to keep half the puddin' overnight and eat it cold. I know it's full of blood and grease and muck but I love it uncooked and cold.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 09:57:57
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 19 2008, 09:53 AM) [snapback]421977[/snapback]
A large number of sympathisers who are becoming increasingly disapointed ?? blink.gif

Where is the evidence of this ? Salmond is recording the highest personal poll ratings ever. And the SNP have increased their popularity ratings amongst the voters for both Westminster and Holyrood elections !

Perhaps you are getting mixed up. Wendy (the one who wears the dress) is the one accepting illegal donations,fiddling the expences and is unpopular even within her own party. ohmy.gif

I don't do 'mixed up' Spurtle-I'm very well aware that Bendy wears the dress, just as Moira wears the troosers.

I'm not interested in spurious polls-I listen to people myself, and it's evident that many people who would quite like an independent Scotland are becoming disenchanted-most of my friends and associates are thinking people mind you, so it's perfectly possible I'm not getting the feelings of the great unwashed.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 10:08:21
QUOTE(midTONs @ Mar 19 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]421975[/snapback]
Correct. tongue.gif

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How many do you predict will attend-will Rae do a Mileson Hampden act, and bus in fifty or sixty tame Shooglyphiles for Toby to assault?


Port ton---'Mr Rae, can you tell me if you're still interested in young Paul, and if not why not?'

Rae-scratching head and peering down through spectacles in a disapproving manner--'Young man, this is a Greenock Morton Football Club Rally-not a Papal convention-anyway-was he not the last one---next please'
mortonjag 2008-03-19 10:11:41
QUOTE(Yoda @ Mar 19 2008, 10:06 AM) [snapback]421979[/snapback]
ordinary black pudding is brilliant in a salad. I discovered this one Bank Holiday weekend when I was skint. There was pudding left over from the Sunday breakie (I used to be quite a party animal and would regularly have about 10 pals staying over all demanding fed on the Sunday morning) the only thing left from the help yersel breakfast was pudding, the pancakes, bacon, sausages and dumpling had all been scoffed and there was nothing else in the house to eat except salad and black pudding. Quite tasty, but I was probably just starving!

Oh for the days when the weekend started on a Thursday and ended on a Tuesday. The only night in was a Wednesday. Christ that was about 20 years ago sad.gif i feel old and even more skint than the black pudding salad days....

Never mind Yoda-we still have the Ton to cheer us up!
mortonjag 2008-03-19 10:17:35
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Mar 19 2008, 10:15 AM) [snapback]421982[/snapback]
To even include the name of Willie McRae in the same breath as Alex The Salmon is unforgiveable.

Willie McRae was what the SNP used to stand for - clear political strategy, high morales, high ethics and a desire to
pull the lions tail at every turn. A man of courage, a man of honour, a man of principle - principles and honours he would never change nor sell nor deny.

Would that the SNP had a few like him today. Willie's murder was one of the lowest points in the history of the Thatcher governent and demonstrated the lengths the secret service would go to - as poor old Hilda found out also.

Willie McRae deserves his name to be mentioned with the better Scottish politicians, and indeed patriots of recent times. Please don't tarnish it by ever inlcuding it with the likes of the current incumbent leader of the SNP - a shallow, self serving and spineless excuse of a man. No doubt he will be very successful - and more power to him - but never confuse good timing with a good man.

In time the truth will out about Willie, and when it does his "suicide" will be seen for what we all know it was - a state sponsored execution. Then again, they were afraid of Willie. Whereas they don't care less about the other lad. He's no threat to anything they need to get done - indeed he has aligned his policies on the right of the centre line. Thatcher's Tories - new Labour - New SNP - The creatures outside looked from pig to man,
and from man to pig, and from pig to man again - but already it was impossible to say which was which.

Codlamh Samh Willie.

TonInDublin

Did he jump or was he pushed?

Or did he just tumble off the bandwagon? mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-19 10:32:57
KORO

Shrinking penis disease
The mysteries of koro puzzle doctors, but dukun come to the rescue


Modern psychiatric texts list koro as the name of a condition in which the patient believes his penis is shrinking and that when it disappears he will die. The first cases were described in Indonesia between 1895 and 1935 but no new reports have appeared since then. If we relied on the Indonesian newspapers and medical journals we would think that the shrinking penis disease has disappeared. A trip to a dukun proves otherwise.


Koro’ is a Makassarese and Buginese word meaning wrinkled or shrunk (kerut in Indonesian). The word was adopted as a euphemism by the colonial doctors who first documented it. Today, however, even native speakers of those languages do not know what it refers to. It is necessary to specify koro’ laso (shrunken penis) so that people will understand what is intended.

Once you know the correct terminology, it is still possible to find cases of the shrinking penis disease in several places in Indonesia. It occurs in South Sulawesi and in Flores, where it is known in the Ende language as mbaze. On the island of Sumba it is known as hidu tama (‘going inside’ disease) or hei lulu (‘everything pulled up’). In Chinese communities it is known as suo yang in Mandarin, or suk yeong in Cantonese.


I recently paid a visit to Hina Panjarra, a traditional healer or dukun, who has a successful penis-rescue practice on the outskirts of Waingapu in East Sumba. His patients come from all walks of life, and either send a car to pick him up or arrive with great urgency at his house. It is always an emergency and patients present in a panicky state the shrunken penis either tied with a string, or grasped firmly by the patient or one of his friends, so as to prevent it from disappearing into the body, and thus causing his death.

Hina stocks a special massage oil prepared from roots and barks he collects from the forest according to a recipe passed down from his ancestors. He vigorously rubs the oil into the legs and the abdomen of his patient, takes a swig of the oil himself to show that it is innocuous, and gives him a small bottle to take home. His treatment is always effective and the penis returns to its normal state within 15 minutes to half an hour. If the condition occurs again the patient may apply the oil themselves directly to the afflicted part. The dukun himself avoids massaging the penis but the patient is encouraged to do so.


The oil is not a general tonic, Hina explains, and should not be used for ordinary fevers and sicknesses, but it is quite good as a kebal (immunity) medicine to strengthen the body against blows and bullets. A number of the local hoods and policemen can be found among Hina’s customers. Although it is basically a massage oil, small amounts can be taken orally as well. It also contains a clove of garlic and other kitchen herbs which make it more palatable. When the oil runs low ordinary coconut oil may be added and the bottle put aside for the ingredients to leach into the oil. Customers may also drop by and pick up a new bottle any time. Hina accepts whatever the customer chooses to pay. Like many traditional healers, he presents himself as a simple man and claims no credit for himself. He cannot explain either the cause of the illness or how the medicine works. Any potency the oil may have is due to the gods, he says.


While medical opinion is that the penis does not shrink and koro is a psychiatric disorder, traditional healers like Hina Panjarra report that they find the penis in a shrunken condition and restore it to normal. Villagers have observed that the penises of men who collapse and die suddenly are often found on closer examination to be in a shrunken state. ‘Definitely smaller than normal’, they say. Not surprisingly patients who fear this might be happening to them prefer to go directly to the dukun with the potent time-honoured cure rather than waste time with the sceptical doctor — who usually has fixed hours of practice and a crowded waiting room.

The two healing traditions are at cross-purposes here. While doctors are still puzzling about this strange condition, dukun continue to administer vital first aid. The explanation for the condition, whether it be physiological or psychological, is not important for the patient. For him, only the cure matter
mortonjag 2008-03-19 10:35:44
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 19 2008, 10:28 AM) [snapback]421985[/snapback]
So in other words you don't have any evidence to back your feeble claims whatsoever ?

Polls are not an exact science that's for sure, but they do give an indication of how the people think.

Salmond is not just ahead in the polls. He is miles ahead !

Wrong again ? Earnie boy laugh.gif

As I said before Spurtle, Hitler was a popular chappie with the unthinking too!
mortonjag 2008-03-19 10:40:58
QUOTE(BlueTube @ Mar 19 2008, 10:37 AM) [snapback]421991[/snapback]
I want to know what the correct story is with Chris Millar. Also why the feck was the chairman in the dressing room waving about a newspaper report when the manager was in the middle of his team talk.

That's a very serious allegation which I believe he may deny.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 10:42:29
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 19 2008, 10:40 AM) [snapback]421993[/snapback]
Bringing Nazi's and Hitler into the argument ?? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif We had a thread about that !

I didn't mention Nazis.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 10:43:28
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 19 2008, 10:41 AM) [snapback]421996[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-03-19 11:41:05
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 19 2008, 11:05 AM) [snapback]422007[/snapback]
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Good grief man have some dignity. You sound about 13 years old.

Come on - still bathing in self adulation over primary 7 achievements!! laugh.gif

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That's a little better-soon I'll have you singing the song!
mortonjag 2008-03-19 11:49:56
QUOTE(centralTON @ Mar 19 2008, 10:53 AM) [snapback]422002[/snapback]
Mother India is fab as is Mother India Cafe across the road from Kelvingrove Art Gallery. Indian style tapas.
The Ashoka, Ashton Lane does a great lunch for £ 4.95 during the week and £ 6.95 at weekends. Had lunch there before the Partick game in December.

Glasgow thoroughly deserves its title of 'curry Capital of Europe'. The competition in the city is so fierce that second rate establishments can't make it.

I sometimes eat out in Dundee, and it's damned hard to find an 'Indian' let alone a good one, though I've been advised to try Broughty Ferry next time. Maybe I should 'phone JM for advice!
mortonjag 2008-03-19 11:53:28
QUOTE(Mr H Palms @ Mar 19 2008, 11:11 AM) [snapback]422008[/snapback]
The seafaring paedophile has gone to Davy Jone's locker

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I could NEVER watch the ads without thinking he was a 'stoat the ba' !!
mortonjag 2008-03-19 11:54:52
QUOTE(Mr H Palms @ Mar 19 2008, 11:21 AM) [snapback]422009[/snapback]
aye it was him. "even if i have to chain myself to the front of the carpark they wont be building there" laugh.gif

Oh aye that will defo stop them. Need to come up with something better than that, try super glue ya helmet

What's with the avatar, and shouldn't it be H E Palms? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-19 11:57:59
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Mar 19 2008, 10:55 AM) [snapback]422005[/snapback]
This started off as a thread where MJ quite rightly points out that Salmond, yet again, has dialled the wrong number. If you want to fix poverty or bring people into more stable environments, throwing money at the problem has proven (time and time again) to make a bad situation worse.

You then made the quite "adventurous" statement that Salmond's future could only be stopped by a JFK like intervention, and you wouldn't put that past "the Brits".

Alibi then stated that was similar to the way that Willie was killed.

I agree. But lets never mix the two up or even compare them in the same thread. The British government and powers at be have nothing to worry about from the Salmon - like Wendy if they really want something pushed through then they'll buy his principles - Trump being a good example of how little he cares about doing the right thing. Alexander is useless, Salmond is less useless. Truly the evil of two lessers.

So my caution is not to even consider a comparison between Willie and The Fish.
An opportunity to attack Salmon ? Well, it wasn't really but I'll take it when I get it.

More an opportunity to remember a truly great Scots man and politician.

TonInDublin

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mortonjag 2008-03-19 11:59:11
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 19 2008, 11:25 AM) [snapback]422010[/snapback]
Sorry for bringing the Nazi's into equation when you mentioned Hitler....silly me blink.gif

Apology accepted-I was merely alluding to the ease with which the great unwashed can be conned.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 12:01:42
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Mar 19 2008, 11:54 AM) [snapback]422015[/snapback]
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Big strong boys do nothing for me Thrax-you should know that you wimp! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-19 12:08:53
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 19 2008, 11:28 AM) [snapback]422011[/snapback]
To change the subject, I see Syphilis is on the rise again. That's a nasty one that !

I'm sure our resident Doc could give you the nasty details on that one.

AHA-Spurtle-diseases of the Willie. Syphilis was traditionally the nastiest of all, and in its tertiary stages was to blame for the dementia of many Kings of England.

That will no doubt make you a happy boy.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 12:11:06
QUOTE(Mr H Palms @ Mar 19 2008, 12:04 PM) [snapback]422021[/snapback]
c,mon jag its kylies famous hotpants.

Why should it be H E Palms??

I thought they were hot pants, but didn't recognise the owner!

Itchy palms = H E Palms. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-19 12:14:10
QUOTE(Lancashire Hot Pot @ Mar 19 2008, 12:11 PM) [snapback]422023[/snapback]

Time is not on our side though!
mortonjag 2008-03-19 12:15:38
QUOTE(Mr H Palms @ Mar 19 2008, 12:13 PM) [snapback]422026[/snapback]
The H is for Hairy......

Ah-the monkey is highly impressed!
mortonjag 2008-03-19 12:21:10
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 19 2008, 12:03 PM) [snapback]422020[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-03-19 13:00:39
QUOTE(Malt @ Mar 19 2008, 12:29 PM) [snapback]422036[/snapback]
I would like to know how the Chairman rates this Season and if he is of the opinion he took to long to sack Jim McInally when we could have appointed Davie Irons during the transfer window. This would have given Davie the oportunity to sign players.

Aslo, how would the Chairman assess his 6/7 years in charge. If we are relegated this season that will be the third time we have been relegated under Douglas Rae Leadership.

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mortonjag 2008-03-19 13:02:36
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Mar 19 2008, 12:33 PM) [snapback]422038[/snapback]
wink.gif uch mortonjag, yer a wee sweetheart...

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Puggs is STILL jealous! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-19 13:04:40
QUOTE(BlueTube @ Mar 19 2008, 12:34 PM) [snapback]422039[/snapback]
That's because Weegie is missing.

Weegie's funny but Spurtle's hilarious.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 13:07:19
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Mar 19 2008, 12:56 PM) [snapback]422041[/snapback]
For those in favour of traction control etc., surely you can see that F1 had become a boring procession of fancy cars that was won or lost on tactics? That isn't racing, that's a technology showcase.

I watched the race on Sunday purely because there was nothing else on and was surprised to find that I actually enjoyed it. I'll be tuning in to the next race.

Hamilton is good.

BTW has your Delhi belly developed into Madras ass?
mortonjag 2008-03-19 16:23:57
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 19 2008, 01:37 PM) [snapback]422060[/snapback]
you do know dux at primary school means f*** all? laugh.gif

did you go to Kilmacolm Primary or St Columbus? i spent most of my childhood in Kilmacolm Primary befriending such people as Bianca and Mason Gascgoine tongue.gif thats my claim to fame.
Edit to add : i got a star pupil award at boglestone in primary 7 for always smiling.......get it roon ye!

When I was a child In Kilmacolm 'Dux' of the local Primary (NOT St Columba's which was for rich men's daft daughters-or its little boy equivalent Dardenne)-was worthwhile.

Also note that such worthy personages as Jim Mather and Annabel Goldie were there of my vintage, but weren't that bright TBH.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 16:28:27
QUOTE(Toby @ Mar 19 2008, 03:06 PM) [snapback]422077[/snapback]
Just typed up a couple of questions to ask tonight although I don't expect to be allowed entry tbh.

Is it DEFINITELY on Toby.

I'm frankly amazed at the number of folk who have desperately important questions to ask yet seem to have desperately unimportant previous engagements.

I just decided that it's a waste of time but then I'm just a s***ebag!
mortonjag 2008-03-19 17:03:26
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Mar 19 2008, 05:00 PM) [snapback]422116[/snapback]
Playing 5 a sides tonight otherwise I would have been in attendance.

As above, if anyone would be as kind as to take some quick minutes down for us non-attenders it would be much appreciated.

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mortonjag 2008-03-19 17:06:56
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Mar 19 2008, 04:43 PM) [snapback]422115[/snapback]
Interesting analogy. Where we differ then, is that I don't even think Keenan's good enough for the Stock Car racing.

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I know, and a seasoned old banger I disagree with you!
mortonjag 2008-03-19 17:08:19
QUOTE(Clydebuilt @ Mar 19 2008, 01:56 PM) [snapback]422063[/snapback]
"Last month wasn't too good for blow jobs either Ryan......"

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mortonjag 2008-03-19 17:26:11
QUOTE(Mr H Palms @ Mar 19 2008, 03:29 PM) [snapback]422087[/snapback]
There seems to be a lot of adverts on these dyas for "super absorbant" towels for women with "sensitive bladders".
We have Tena-Lady, whose name annoys me. Listen up, women, if you have piss dribbling down your thighs, you are no lady.
And now I see Always have gotten in on the act.

My question is this - have women always been designed so poorly or is this a recent phenomenon?
I did read a thing in the paper a while back that said that a great many silly bints do that "hover" thing when using a public toilet. Basically they have misplaced notions about the cleanliness of their own fat arses, and think that they are above polluting them by actually resting them on the seat. However, hovering is bad for the Fanny Muscles, as not all the piss is evacuated, and over time the minge brackets loosen, and they suffer periodical pee dribblidge.

The other main cause of the problem is being too damn lazy to do mary excercises after squeezing out a bawling wean.

What really annoys me about these adverts is that they are seeking to legitimise adults pissing themselves! It's bad enough that we put up with them dribbling out iron-rich devil's treacle 5 days a month, but piss?
If I ever bed someone that I discover to be wearing a sodden piss-rag, I shall shove it in their mouth and hold their nose till they swallow.
And that's being kind.
Any women out there care to comment.

Your imagination is admirable young man, even if your accuracy is in question. The truth is that far and away the most common cause of female incontinence is uterine prolapse, and the uterus resides in a higher place than the minge or even the Fanny.

It's also a fact that incontinence is more common in multiparous women-a cruel punishment for doing work which men gladly shun.

Anyway- urine is a pure clear sterile substance when freshly passed, and may be drunk with impunity.

I'm not quite so sure about eating keech mind you.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 17:30:57
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 19 2008, 05:13 PM) [snapback]422127[/snapback]
So that's why you never followed my into bed after the Ceilidh! I left the opportunity open for you but you preferred the couch with Mick sad.gif

Has thrax been cheating on me?
mortonjag 2008-03-19 17:37:44
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 19 2008, 05:22 PM) [snapback]422133[/snapback]
Aye Ok. I was only at the kidding, apart from Cliff Richard that is.

Cliff was a good singer though I'm told he's a pufe.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 17:40:03
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Mar 19 2008, 05:32 PM) [snapback]422138[/snapback]
Why? A billion flies can't be wrong!

You've been reading Spurtle's polls.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 17:43:01
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 19 2008, 05:11 PM) [snapback]422125[/snapback]
Wont be there simply as these things don't entertain me in the slightest, never have.

Never seen the point, I think it's more just to keep fans happy, I don't see them acting much on anything that will be said.

s***ebag
mortonjag 2008-03-19 17:43:32
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 19 2008, 05:14 PM) [snapback]422130[/snapback]
turns out i cant find anyone to go with after my mates pulling out so i wont be going either. if the one man and his dog who do go could take notes and ask every decent question then i'd be eternally grateful. smile.gif

s***ebag
mortonjag 2008-03-19 17:48:04
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 19 2008, 05:14 PM) [snapback]422129[/snapback]
I will be going , will try to take some notes , so no big words , or I'll simply edit them from my notes biggrin.gif





At the toon hall door stands a lonely steward.


Chris-this is Toby



Toby-this is Chris


Gentlemen, thank you SO much for making the effort-as you know Mr Rae had to cancel at the VERY LAST MINUTE on information from his spies for family reasons, but he has asked me to give a free Fudgy Wudgy to you all both.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 17:53:29
QUOTE(Mr H Palms @ Mar 19 2008, 05:41 PM) [snapback]422142[/snapback]
Yes i let my imagination run wild a bit al give you that, but its the thought that counts, i knew most of it was pure bulls*** I just got carried away, i should have known the resident doc would have put me right.
Anyway the real reason for my rant was, i was handed a shopping list this afternoon from the missus and while wandering round tescos in a daze i noticed the words TENA LADY on the shopping list and after a slagging match with her i came on here and typed a lot of pish.......

TENA LADY...shopping list!!!

ANDY LATE she writes her diary in code son-yer being two timed!
mortonjag 2008-03-19 17:57:12
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 19 2008, 05:42 PM) [snapback]422143[/snapback]
so did we. sad.gif to games like Queens Park etc, now we take 600 to the league leaders in the first.

crowds are falling all around scotland, i blame the extortionate prices these days. ( he says as he pays £4 into cappielow every 2nd week)

Don't worry I'm sure Shoogly has a master plan which will see Cappielow bursting at the seams next season-or wait was it somebody else who wanted to blow it up and redevelop?
mortonjag 2008-03-19 17:58:38
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 19 2008, 05:46 PM) [snapback]422148[/snapback]
Totally, as I have sat on this board for the past year moaning about one specific aspect of the club I am not happy about and have decided not to go.
....oh wait rolleyes.gif

s***ebag
mortonjag 2008-03-19 18:04:40 Rae and entourage to outnumber fans--2-1


Toby to get frustrated as Shoogly loses his hearing


Andy Bryan to smile all night


One faded strip to be sold to a blind old lady who's been saving up all season for her grandson's birthday present.

A Tilly junior reporters wee brother's mate to be taking notes

Atmosphere to be almost as dead as the Cowshed at 4-30 on a Saturday


etc.



mortonjag 2008-03-19 18:09:41
QUOTE(ton5saints1 @ Mar 19 2008, 06:03 PM) [snapback]422161[/snapback]
Also, this guy Roddy Collins was mentioned at the height of the Carlisle United fiasco years ago when Michael Knighton was in charge, as was Brookes Mileson.

There was also a link with Clydebank and if I remember correctly a proposed move to Dublin (City).

Nothing seems to change.

Is he no deid, or was that Miles Brookson?
mortonjag 2008-03-19 18:11:17
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 19 2008, 06:08 PM) [snapback]422166[/snapback]
it wont be Gretna players, they wouldnt need to go on trial as our managers know exactly how good they are.

were!
mortonjag 2008-03-19 18:14:00 Fort M Fudge Packers.....Blew Saturday.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 18:15:07
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 19 2008, 06:12 PM) [snapback]422170[/snapback]
they're not dead.

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mortonjag 2008-03-19 18:19:08
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 19 2008, 06:15 PM) [snapback]422175[/snapback]
Mortonjag not to turn up wink.gif


Wouldn't you be surprised if he DID!

Just when it's least expected, and Toby's been kidnapped on the way from the station, and Rae thinks he's mastered the season's coup, this wee old lady pops up from nowhere and-well you can script the rest.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 18:20:46
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 19 2008, 06:17 PM) [snapback]422177[/snapback]
you changed it to past tense as if they were dead. He left the club 2 months ago, the players arent going to have got any worse or better in that time.

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sez who?
mortonjag 2008-03-19 18:25:15
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 19 2008, 06:16 PM) [snapback]422176[/snapback]
You say that as if there's something wrong with it. blink.gif

We could have a pufe list but people would just spoil it by telling lies I'd guess

We could even have an SNP pufe list
mortonjag 2008-03-19 18:29:49
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 19 2008, 06:28 PM) [snapback]422189[/snapback]
My, how the spelling has gone downhill amongst the youth these days. rolleyes.gif tongue.gif

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ahl yoof ye
mortonjag 2008-03-19 18:32:11
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 19 2008, 06:30 PM) [snapback]422191[/snapback]
I'll let someone else do that, theirs would be much funnier.

I just realised that your skettleon is Shoogly at tonight's fiasco.


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mortonjag 2008-03-19 18:35:01
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 19 2008, 06:33 PM) [snapback]422195[/snapback]
Too much gin, methinks.

Switch to soft drinks-they're cheaper and better for you.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 18:37:01
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 19 2008, 06:32 PM) [snapback]422192[/snapback]
Why do we need such a list?

I'm not sure that we do-it was merely a suggestion to please Spurtle! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-19 18:40:30
QUOTE(Patg @ Mar 19 2008, 06:33 PM) [snapback]422196[/snapback]
All mouth on your keyboard and an opportunity to speak your mind to "Shoogly" and you dont bother your arse .
Scott G

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Better late than never.


Will you be going?

On Wednesday 19th March, we have arranged an evening in the Port Glasgow Town Hall to allow supporters to meet the new management team of David Irons and Derek Collins.

Doors open at 6.30pm, and there will be a "Q & A" session at 7.30pm, when a panel including David, Derek and the Chairman will be available to answer your questions.

A selection of Morton merchandise will also be on sale on the night, and our thanks go to Re/Max Homefinders Greenock for sponsoring the evening.

Guess that'll be a 'NO'.


Shame on you-you spend the whole year up the man's arse, and when the golden opportunity arises for you to show your support in person you're attacking innocent old men.


s***ebag!
mortonjag 2008-03-19 18:41:52
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 19 2008, 06:38 PM) [snapback]422201[/snapback]
I'll bear that in mind.

Just DO it!
mortonjag 2008-03-19 18:45:13
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 19 2008, 06:43 PM) [snapback]422206[/snapback]
Not very wise advise from Doc: surely water would be better than the fizzed syrup?
Strike him off!

Water is THE soft drink par excellence!
mortonjag 2008-03-19 18:50:02
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 19 2008, 06:46 PM) [snapback]422210[/snapback]
Methinks you should still bear this in mind. unsure.gif

Methinks youthinks funny.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 18:51:57
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Mar 19 2008, 06:42 PM) [snapback]422205[/snapback]
nothing happened sad.gif i promise...

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I don't know what to believe-I mean MICK!!!
mortonjag 2008-03-19 18:53:39
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 19 2008, 06:52 PM) [snapback]422217[/snapback]
I'm not saying anyone who is gay should come onto the forum and say that they are. It's their private business.

I'm just saying there are gay's on here but they probably won't openly admit that they are.

How confident are you in that statement bannock baws?
mortonjag 2008-03-19 18:59:52
QUOTE(Patg @ Mar 19 2008, 06:50 PM) [snapback]422214[/snapback]
Im actually just leaving now after travelling down from Edinburgh today

Oh you look a bit silly now then

Scott

You've travelled all the way from Edinburgh just to listen to that egocentric buffoon. That has to be VERY, VERY sad.

You'd be better off attending church on a Sunday. We all need to pray.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 19:00:55
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 19 2008, 06:53 PM) [snapback]422219[/snapback]
Methinks someone's in a cream puff. tongue.gif

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Don't be a silly Billy-I take nothing to do with pufes.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 19:05:49
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 19 2008, 06:54 PM) [snapback]422220[/snapback]
Naw very rolleyes.gif

Surely you're a man for polls and statistics. What percentage of the male population is Gay?

I'm not sure myself, but I'd imagine we have quite a few real live pufes on this forum, and I don't see why they should have to expose their criminal behaviour sexual preferences, any more than I should disclose the number of warts on my Willie.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 19:08:49
QUOTE(Mr H Palms @ Mar 19 2008, 07:06 PM) [snapback]422227[/snapback]
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you could be on to something there doc. mibee thats why the minge bracket is so loose, its getting double dunted.....

What do you think of her doc, would you be right in there, shes s bit young for you but hey ho. wink.gif [attachment=3818:tena_lady.jpg]

Pole dancers never did much for me TBH but I do like her taste in baffies.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 19:12:11
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 19 2008, 07:08 PM) [snapback]422229[/snapback]
except when it comes to Mortonjag, although its more about him being a s***ebag than a bad supporter. tongue.gif
Edit to add : i just checked top posters today and im miles in 2nd place, but not even close to posting half as many times as Mortonjag, 101 posts ohmy.gif

im ashamed of myself for posting so much, god knows what i feel for him. laugh.gif

Mortonjag has many little helpers
mortonjag 2008-03-19 19:15:52
QUOTE(Jack Bauer @ Mar 19 2008, 07:04 PM) [snapback]422224[/snapback]
The Port toon Hall is 2mins away from me, but i havent decided whether i can be bothered.

Had this have been 4 years or so ago , it would have been standing room only.

I fear it will be another sideshow of dancing around the real issues, but i may just go along anyway.

I do not however think it makes anyone a better supporter than another if they choose to go [or not].

Will make my mind up in 15mins. dry.gif

JB.

I believe Mr Rae will have his eyes well and truly opened tonight. He can come up with all sorts of excuses for dwindling crowds at Cappielow, but I'm sure he hasn't seen this coming!

Correct SHOOGLES? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-19 19:18:04
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 19 2008, 07:15 PM) [snapback]422237[/snapback]
ooooooh there is nothing like a little bit of a code to keep everyone on their toes smile.gif

clout on de erse?
mortonjag 2008-03-19 19:22:19
QUOTE(Jack Bauer @ Mar 19 2008, 07:17 PM) [snapback]422238[/snapback]
One More

JB.

Site of tonight's Shoogly Show?
mortonjag 2008-03-19 19:24:23
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 19 2008, 07:20 PM) [snapback]422240[/snapback]
i've noticed the difference being when i dont get your jokes (a lot of the time) i just ignore them but when you dont get mine (a lot of the time) you do this face blink.gif

see i respect my elders smile.gif just like back in your day. tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-19 19:27:01 The rally opening has been delayed because of the large crowd queuing outside the town hall. Extra police have been drafted in, and the helicopter is on standby.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 19:33:20
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 19 2008, 07:25 PM) [snapback]422244[/snapback]
Naw , you are right. No one should have to do that at all.

But I would like to know the statistics about what percentage of males are indeed gay. Bet it's quite a low number ??

I guess it just depends whom you choose to believe!


Just one in 100 tells researchers: I'm gay

By Ben Leapman, Home Affairs Correspondent
Last Updated: 2:09am GMT 28/01/2008

Only one in 100 Britons would describe themselves as gay, according to the first government research into the nation's sexuality.

A further one in 100 would call themselves bisexual - but both groups are outnumbered by those who say they are unwilling to discuss their private life with Whitehall researchers.

In the survey, some people failed to understand the question and gave answers including "female", "normal", "not active" and "I am OK with my sexuality".

Some interviewers declined to ask the question for fear of giving offence.

The Office for National Statistics, which carried out the poll of 4,000 people, admitted that its results were "not a reliable estimate" of the homosexual population.

It said it would use the findings to develop a more accurate way of measuring.

Ministers intend to introduce an annual count once the survey method has been improved. They say they need the information to plan public service provision more accurately.

However, the question will not be asked in the next census in 2011, for fear that it might deter some people from returning their forms.

Statisticians spent two years considering the precise wording of the sexuality question, which was asked as part of a larger survey about lifestyle. In the end, they asked it in two different ways, each bringing different results.

Overall, 94.4 per cent of people surveyed described themselves as heterosexual or "straight"; one per cent said they were gay or lesbian; 0.9 per cent said they were bisexual; 0.6 per cent selected "other"; and three per cent ticked the box for "prefer not to say".

No one objected to being asked, although interviewers reported that some sniggered or giggled out of amusement or embarrassment.

However, in 15 per cent of cases the interviewer failed to put the question, making the results difficult to interpret.

Homosexual campaigners have claimed previously that as many as one in 10 of the population is gay. Ben Summerskill, the chief executive of the gay rights group Stonewall, believes the true figure to be about six per cent.

He backed the decision to carry out the survey, but said: "There are sensible reasons for putting this question, but if you don't explain the reasons on the doorstep then people will get anxious and wonder why the man from the ministry is asking about their private life."

In constructing the survey, statisticians grappled with the definition of homosexuality. Amanda Wilmot of the ONS said: "Human beings do not always conform to a common standard.

"Those who are abstaining, or ignoring desires, or indeed those who are undecided or not yet 'out', may not be able to classify themselves at all. One's desire, behaviour and self-identification might not always match.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 19:38:13
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 19 2008, 07:33 PM) [snapback]422247[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-03-19 19:45:08
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 19 2008, 07:39 PM) [snapback]422252[/snapback]
That's pretty low... ohmy.gif

As I say, it depends whom you choose to believe. It's still not a topic about which people feel very comfortable.

From my own professional experience I'd definitely say the figure is far higher than 1%, and I'd honestly be surprised if more than 90% of the population is totally 'straight'.

The bottom line unsure.gif is that is doesn't and shouldn't matter, but for the majority it still does.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 20:36:09
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 19 2008, 07:55 PM) [snapback]422263[/snapback]
Strange the amount of media power gay's hold for such a short percentage of people huh.gif

A wee bit like political polls and spin-eh?
mortonjag 2008-03-19 20:38:11 And it's goodnight from me

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mortonjag 2008-03-19 20:49:31
QUOTE(MrX @ Mar 19 2008, 08:07 PM) [snapback]422266[/snapback]
Gives his best/100% all the time.

No football brain, no creativity, no vision, little technique. Runs about like a headless chicken chopping people down and giving away fouls. Looked out of his depth in the 2nd division, not what we need if we have any ambition for stayingin the 1st.

Dean Keenan is rubbish. Dean Keenan isn't a footballer.

That is EXACTLY the type of dismissive rubbish which makes me talk about football afficionados and snobs.

WHO exactly do you think WE are right now-we are f*cking abysmal-it's taken me a long time to be able/willing to admit it but we are 1st division bargain basement trash right now, and folk like you still have the temerity to slag of a guy who was MOTM more than once last season, and scored the winner away at Peterhead.

The fact is quite simple-some folk just can't face reality, and wouldn't be seen dead in that Lada.
mortonjag 2008-03-19 20:51:48
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 19 2008, 08:49 PM) [snapback]422279[/snapback]
and it's a good night from him. smile.gif

Goodnight wub.gif sleep.gif sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-19 21:00:16
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 19 2008, 08:45 PM) [snapback]422276[/snapback]
Naw not really. In fact, nothing like it at all blink.gif

Aye it is-maybe not to quite the same degree, but the principle holds good.

'He had suffered brain damage in childhood, and believed everything he read in the newspapers'!
mortonjag 2008-03-19 21:02:17
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 19 2008, 08:54 PM) [snapback]422283[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDI'm just NOT playing-I've seen pictures of Bawheid's glaicet leer till I'm sick!
mortonjag 2008-03-19 21:04:26
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 19 2008, 08:57 PM) [snapback]422285[/snapback]
Night baby. x

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mortonjag 2008-03-19 21:06:36
QUOTE(C B @ Mar 19 2008, 08:01 PM) [snapback]422265[/snapback]
Skank has already started spending her money !

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When did she visit the Ton's dressing room?
mortonjag 2008-03-19 21:16:00 Rangers 1- Partick1
mortonjag 2008-03-20 06:35:17
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 19 2008, 11:35 PM) [snapback]422351[/snapback]
Some of us work for a living, Doc biggrin.gif

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s***ebag
mortonjag 2008-03-20 06:36:30
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 20 2008, 01:09 AM) [snapback]422373[/snapback]
I asked why we can't get outside sponsorship for the youth teams . As far as the club is concerned the local area is a wasteland to look at potential sponsorship .

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mortonjag 2008-03-20 06:41:59
QUOTE(Patg @ Mar 19 2008, 09:46 PM) [snapback]422305[/snapback]
Variety of names ? Im on my dads PC in greenock and cant be arsed logging out then on again

Its ok to pester him once in a while as he pesters us all of the time

Point of order to you my little chocolate brownie-I don't PESTER you any more than I PESTER any other.

What Mortonjag does is defends his corner and his reputation. Don't bother the Jag and he won't bother you.

I'm pleased you've found a replacement receptacle for your sepia stained lingual apparatus RUSTY TONGUE.
mortonjag 2008-03-20 06:48:54
QUOTE(Patg @ Mar 20 2008, 12:17 AM) [snapback]422359[/snapback]
Does that make you more of a supporter than me ?

I dont goto as many games as I used too these days as I run a business and Saturdays make up over 50% of me weeks takings so its more important to stay in Edinburgh

Did I say not going made you any less of a supporter ? I think you have a wee chip on your shoulder m8

I said I went because I was a supporter and I wanted to hear what the management team had to say . im sure you had your reasons for not going

PS - Id like to work out how you goto many more games than me as my work has only caused me to miss a couple this year

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Did you not say before that you're manager of a nightclub RT?
mortonjag 2008-03-20 07:22:30 Thanks to Chrissiboi, Toby, Jonaton, and the others who had the courage and fortitude to suffer yet another embarrassing performance from liar in chief.

What have we learned that we didn't know yesterday?

There was no animosity between Midge and the club-LIAR.

Inverclyde is a wasteland for sponsorship-LIAR

More rumblings and fumblings about our non existent youth policy-LIAR

Have we had any encouragement from this rallying call to the fans-I don't sense it.

Crawford is making vague noises about an SPL stadium in 'three or four years' but can't afford the gargantuan cost of some decent turnstyles-AYE RIGHT.

Oh and a wee bit of Deja Vu--David Irons 'came over well'. That was quoted ad nauseam about JM after similar Shoogly Shows.

Mind you full credit to DI/DC for identifying the squad weaknesses-obviously they've been studying ancient copies of this rag!!! tongue.gif

One final point folks-ALISTAIR DONALD.


Is he deid?
mortonjag 2008-03-20 07:28:05
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 19 2008, 09:54 PM) [snapback]422308[/snapback]
MJ, you can't seriously with a straight face and no tongue in cheek suggest that Dean Keenan is of suficient quality to consistently perform in Scotland's second tier of football? Ayr Utd or East Fife or Arbroath are much more of his level. I remember the ginger whinger Stuart MacDonald who after the *careful, or I'll close down the Internet* fiasco spent many seasons at Arbroath (is he still there?) Stuart when he first broke into the team was twice the player Dean has ever been for us, playing in much the same roles yet seems to have found his level. I'm not deluded enough to expect perfection and I'm fully aware that the current footballing environment in the first division is not blessed with sublime or even half decent talent at the moment but I do not expect us to play the role of the pauper, turn up every week to watch s***e and ask for more please.

I can!

QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Mar 20 2008, 12:00 AM) [snapback]422356[/snapback]
Screw the analogies. Keenan has been consistently average or worse under Cormack Snr, McPherson, Cowboy and the recently departed McInally.

He has been consistently a great laugh in the dressing room since he came to the club, we've all heard about it. He is, by all accounts, the life and soul of the dressing room. Ripping a t-shirt off when he returns from training frequently. He is the Gazza, the clown!

He is not, aside from five or six good performances in the first team,
three of which came at the start of this season, a football player we should be keeping. No way is he better than Templeman, Linn, Gardyne and Shield - all of whom were released! I'd honestly be shocked if that many folk really thought this guy was an asset we should stop Ayr from signing in the summer...........

That must put him in the top 25%

QUOTE(MrX @ Mar 20 2008, 06:00 AM) [snapback]422380[/snapback]
Keenan is at best a good Boys Brigade/Ravenscraig 5-a-side player. Wouldn't ever question his commitment or a good laugh in the dressing room, but at this level we need a little bit more than that. There were loads of lads with 'plenty of commitment' and 'dig' in my Gourock YAC team, as far as I'm aware most of them are either mechanics, IBM workers, office workers, ect ect ect One ex-team mate was the Tory representatitve for Greenock a few years back.... maybe thats more Deano's calling than 1st division football.

Multiply by 11 !!
mortonjag 2008-03-20 07:34:59 Well done to the Jags, and to the other 1st division clubs who grasped the money spinning nettle-lucrative replay in the offing.


And to the Ton fans whose excuse was 'we need to concentrate on the league'-

It was an excuse.
mortonjag 2008-03-20 07:37:21
QUOTE(capitanus @ Mar 20 2008, 12:50 AM) [snapback]422370[/snapback]
In the same area that you guys are talking about, how do you guys rate the Shish Mahal on Park Road?

I believe it's quite well patronised locally. As I said, 'bad' curry houses in Glasgow (and particularly in the West End) don't exist.
mortonjag 2008-03-20 07:42:03
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 20 2008, 07:14 AM) [snapback]422386[/snapback]
Liquid nitrogen time Jagmeister.

Not on his willie, Teacher Tom.

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Indeed Newt, and I do take exception to Mr Bam's assumption that all wart virus infections are identical to his.
mortonjag 2008-03-20 07:44:28
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 20 2008, 07:41 AM) [snapback]422391[/snapback]
yawn

Not in bed yet Trumpet?
mortonjag 2008-03-20 08:41:01
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Mar 20 2008, 08:01 AM) [snapback]422395[/snapback]
Can't see what's funny about that.

Perception is indeed variable!
mortonjag 2008-03-20 08:43:02
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 20 2008, 08:04 AM) [snapback]422396[/snapback]
He's 35, not exactly Millenesque for Christ's sake. I wouldn't mind having an experienced player like Nicholls as back-up.

Indeed if Nichols is a dinosaur it's reasonable to describe our Chairman as a fossil.
mortonjag 2008-03-20 08:45:54
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Mar 20 2008, 07:55 AM) [snapback]422394[/snapback]
Jesus and the disciples are having the last supper. A discussion is taking place and then Jesus stands up and breaks the bread, he then takes wine and shared it round.

Jesus then goes on to talk about his favourite mircale, turning the water into wine and how great it would be if he could do that again, at that point Peter stands up and shout "Jesus for f*** sake, put your £20 in the kitty like every other c***"

He probably ended up raiding Judas's carry oot.
mortonjag 2008-03-20 09:04:17
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 20 2008, 08:50 AM) [snapback]422400[/snapback]
And if you had went you could have stood up and made these claims of lies to those who apparently say them.

Then again, you didn't...so erm....your view on it is pretty much void.

Puggs, I'm getting a wee bit weary of this. I understand the HUGE disappointment for many, who wanted a glimpse of Mortonjag in the flesh-perhaps even the opportunity to see him make a complete fool of himself.

I've thanked Toby, Chris, and JonaTon for being brave enough to suffer Rae's indifference and isolation from reality, but it's perfectly simple son. All my professional life I've been used to dealing with people on the basis of mutual self respect. I've been accountable to patients and colleagues, and in return have expected and received accountability.

I just regard it as a tad infra dignitatem to trek from Glasgow to the Port on a bleak March night on the off chance that I'll get a question in, only for a decrepit toffee maker to wriggle, lie, bluster, and dismiss.

Chrissiboi has described him as 'a cactus', and he certainly thinks the fans are pricks.

To suggest that 'my view is void' is just puerile, provocative, and pointless.

mortonjag 2008-03-20 09:06:20
QUOTE(Muz @ Mar 20 2008, 08:53 AM) [snapback]422401[/snapback]
Mortonjag- dont take this the wrong way like, but get to f***.

TY
mortonjag 2008-03-20 09:07:54
QUOTE(hartleyhare @ Mar 20 2008, 08:58 AM) [snapback]422404[/snapback]
I commented before that I could not understand this boards preoccupation with you and your posts (which by the way detract from some decent discussion) but I hope others will see how pathetic and pointless you are given your failure to take the opportunity to present your concerns to the club. Coward.

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Hare brained comments are usually ignored clown.
mortonjag 2008-03-20 09:09:16
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Mar 20 2008, 09:08 AM) [snapback]422409[/snapback]
Seriously, what sort of c*** quotes latin on a football messageboard!

Are football message boards only for uneducated children?
mortonjag 2008-03-20 09:19:03
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 20 2008, 09:12 AM) [snapback]422411[/snapback]
s***ebag

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mortonjag 2008-03-20 09:19:29
QUOTE(Muz @ Mar 20 2008, 09:14 AM) [snapback]422412[/snapback]
You've completely ruined this board. Get to f***.

Is that your opinion?
mortonjag 2008-03-20 09:21:07
QUOTE(jimmy boag delivers @ Mar 20 2008, 08:57 AM) [snapback]422403[/snapback]
After the match on Saturday I wouldn't have put any money at all on Thistle getting a result (of any kind). So fair play to them on getting a draw at Ibrox - a fantastic result and I hope they do them at Firhill.

I was convinced McColl took them off the gas in the second half with last night in mind.
mortonjag 2008-03-20 09:41:47
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 20 2008, 09:27 AM) [snapback]422417[/snapback]
thats the third different reason you've given for not going, at least youre consistently inconsistent....s***ebag. tongue.gif

to be fair, I and everyone else seems to be reasonably happy with the answers given so you can go in a wee huff all you want but, im afraid your opinion on this is even more pointless than usual. tongue.gif

So you went after all-well done!


Are you really sure that 'everybody else is reasonably happy with the answers given'.

In particular I'd like your specific definition of 'everybody else'.

Why would I be in a 'wee huff' even if I did 'wee huffs'?

Summary of the show.


Rae pishes on questioners.

Irons makes pleasant noises.

Totally and utterly utterly predictable-EXACTLY what I expected.

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mortonjag 2008-03-20 09:42:44
QUOTE(Muz @ Mar 20 2008, 09:40 AM) [snapback]422424[/snapback]
Yes. I wish they would "fix" it so that the ignore function removed the posts completely instead of how it displays at the moment.

Sanctimonius arsehole.

Holy sh*t!
mortonjag 2008-03-20 09:48:12
QUOTE(pgmsc @ Mar 20 2008, 09:43 AM) [snapback]422427[/snapback]
Agree nothing worse than having someone on ignore for them to be quoted and keep appearing on the board

Seems some people feel some posts are worth quoting-are you quoted often my friend?
mortonjag 2008-03-20 10:06:10
QUOTE(.:BrIDo:. @ Mar 20 2008, 09:51 AM) [snapback]422430[/snapback]
You can moan on here constantly, but if you're not willing to go to the meetings and voice your opinions, don't complain when nothing changes.
It's like when people don't vote then complain about X, Y and Z.

Wrong on both counts-nobody is obliged to participate in an electoral system of which he disapproves.


More specifically, I'm a Morton supporter, and season ticket holder who goes to all games home and away at considerable expense.

That entitles me to opinions on how the club is run and it's perfectly obvious that opinions on this message board ARE READ. Opinions at the Shoogly Show remain unheard.

I understand that only eighty or so Morton supporters are now entitled to complain-is that what you're suggesting?

Did you enjoy the 'bash' by the way?
mortonjag 2008-03-20 10:09:49
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 20 2008, 09:59 AM) [snapback]422432[/snapback]
What happened to the whole "pulling together to avoid relegation" thing? Shat out of that as well?

I was slightly surprised that not one single player was present at the 'Rally'.
mortonjag 2008-03-20 10:14:27
QUOTE(cmdc @ Mar 20 2008, 10:10 AM) [snapback]422436[/snapback]
One thing I'd add about the Q&A, which I think often gets overlooked - especially when there were concerns that it had been postponed because the club feared taking a pasting...

...this is an evening, and a forum, established voluntarily by the club, not some requirement in their articles of association. That is at least the past three years (I cant remember beyond that) that fans of the club have been afforded the opportunity to question the chairman, manager, chief exec. directly - and no one can say that these three years have been a glorious period in the clubs history, so there have been plenty tough questions available to ask, even though we have eventually worked our way back to the First Division. I can't be sure, but I don't imagine fans at all clubs are afforded such an opportunity at all. The club is often criticised for being lacking in communication, but this is something I think they should receive a little bit of praise for.

If indeed those meetings were just as you describe them, I'd have to agree. The concensus from those who asked questions appears to be that they remained unanswered by Mr Rae. That is a measure of the man's self awareness. I'm sure he went home last night with a warm glow!
mortonjag 2008-03-20 10:17:43
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 20 2008, 10:08 AM) [snapback]422434[/snapback]
so by me not going im not allowed to be happy with the answers? then i guess that means by you not going you're not entitled to be unhappy in the answers, in which case we should both shut up. tongue.gif

they answered the questions that were asked with mostly answers that people wanted, or at least explained why when giving an answer people didn't want. Last night was hardly going to be life changing for Morton fans.

Iron's didnt just make pleasant noises, he identified the squad had no real full-backs without it being addressed to him in the question, thats already noticing where our previous management f***ed up.....so for that alone you could argue the night was worthwhile.

s***EBAG!!!


How the hell do you think you know that others are satisfied-that's plain daft.

I don't want to sound disparaging about DI, but he was rather stating the obvious.


mortonjag 2008-03-20 10:26:27
QUOTE(Toby @ Mar 20 2008, 10:21 AM) [snapback]422443[/snapback]
I've said I'd respect your stance mortonjag, it is up to you after all, and inspite of the way many questions were tip-toed around, I've got to admit I'm alot happier this morning than I have been in a long time on the basis that I've managed to get a few things off my chest. We may not have got the answers we wanted off him, but at least he's got a better idea now of our concerns.

Full credit to you and the others who made points Toby. I'm sure you know the old saying about listening but not hearing, although hopefully Crawford and others will have taken comments on board.

I'd hoped Alistair Donald was about to figure somewhere in plans, but my take from last night's show is that nothing's really changed.

Back to the drawing board in our attempt to avoid the drop, and HOPEFULLY we'll see some encouraging changes in the closed season.
mortonjag 2008-03-20 10:32:18
QUOTE(cmdc @ Mar 20 2008, 10:26 AM) [snapback]422446[/snapback]
Football is every bit as infected by spin culture as politics these days. I remember Tony Blair suggested that politicians should listen to football managers and learn how to avoid answering tough questions, and he's right. I didn't attend, but if I did I think I would go with the assumption that I'll be fed a few lines. I particularly wouldn't expect a straight answer to the Chris Millar question. In saying that, the managers answers seem to have been quite pointed, rather than mere spin, and that is encouraging.

I'm actually inclined to agree with the Chairman on one of his most contentious points - that Inverclyde is a difficult place to attract sponsorship. I would say however that a more professional commercial department would go some way to at least making the club a more attractive proposition for sponsors. The paradox is that arguably the best person for that job (I think the commercial department has really gone down hill since Sandra Fisher left at the dawn of the HS era) seems to be doing a successful job at Golden Casket, and thus helping keep the club afloat!

Interesting points. Inverclyde may not be a vibrant buzz of industry those days, but it's perfectly clear to me that Golden Casket has a vested interest in remaining the club's major sponsor.

I also note your BLIAR comments, but there's something inherently wrong about lies and spin to your OWN fellow fans at a Club Rally. Folk are not daft, and you can ultimately only fool some of the people all of the time.
mortonjag 2008-03-20 10:34:39
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 20 2008, 10:29 AM) [snapback]422448[/snapback]
i was judging by everyone who went who had contributed to threads on here afterwords, which is what i meant by everybody else.

stating the obvious is a far cry from what we used to have.

What have you been reading?!!

David Irons said nothing surprising or informative-that's what I expected.

My take is that nobody who questioned Rae was SATISFIED with his 'answers', though Toby felt heartened that he'd got his message over.
mortonjag 2008-03-20 10:35:58
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 20 2008, 10:31 AM) [snapback]422450[/snapback]
Also its good to see that Iron's looks like he knows exactly how he wants the club to go forward and exactly what he needs for that to happen which is promising.

As I said before, JM was extremely well received at earlier rallies.
mortonjag 2008-03-20 10:38:46
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Mar 20 2008, 10:28 AM) [snapback]422447[/snapback]
Did an absolute belter of a jobby after the Madras the other night. All out in one go, with the turtles heid practically sipping the bog water before the whole load snapped off with a mighty plop. Water on the back of the legs and everything. The only downside was afterwards when it felt like someone had blowtorched my back door.

Did it close with a bang?
mortonjag 2008-03-20 11:02:25
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 20 2008, 10:56 AM) [snapback]422462[/snapback]
Okay then we're all doomed and going to die horrible lonely deaths, Morton are going to go bust and St Mirren fans buy Cappielow and turn it into a soap factory and someone is going to steal your last Blueberry muffin.

we might aswell all think like you seeing as nothing good can ever happen at Morton. What happened to get behind the team and a fresh new start, everyone else seems to be doing it....even Toby and the likes but already you're Judging Iron's on what JM has done or said in the past.

is it really impossible for someone to come accross well in your experience and actually mean what they say? if so then i feel really sorry for you.

I'm not conscious of having said or even suggested that David Irons meant anything other than what he said. I'm simply pointing out that JM was received in a similar fashion.

I don't eat blueberry muffins.
mortonjag 2008-03-20 11:08:32
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 20 2008, 11:01 AM) [snapback]422465[/snapback]
There was a study in the USA that came up with a figure of 2.6% which seems more like it. I can't remember if that meant that the remaining 97.4% were heterosexual or if the 97.4% also included bisexuals, but the conclusion that could be drawn was that the percentage of the general population who were homosexual was a lot lower than the 10% figure often quoted. As Colkitto says, the influence of the "homosexual lobby", if such a homogeneous body exists, is far greater in the media than the raw numbers would merit - maybe a consequence of the tendency for many homosexual males to be drawn towards more artistic pursuits, for example the theatre and other performing arts where they tend to excel.

One of the problems with this matter is that you can't discuss it or analyse the science behind it without being accused of "homophobia" which as I have said before is entirely the wrong word to use for persecution of homosexuals as a group. There was some research under way into "curing" homosexuality using hormonal therapy, with some success, but the research was condemned by the homosexual lobbyists, including Martina Navratilova in particular, as homophobic - a case of not liking the results and so trying to suppress them.

Being homosexual is not a matter of choice, so why persecute people because of it? You wouldn't persecute someone for being black or for having a physical disability, or at least most decent people wouldn't. School children are a pretty cruel group - they will single out anyone who shows any sign of differing from the norm in any way - but once we become adults, we should have learnt to be a bit more understanding and tolerant.

Far better to mock someone for supporting the OF - now that IS worth mocking.

Being heterosexual is not a matter of choice either, but heterosexuals in general assume that it is the 'correct' expression of sexuality simply because it appears to conform with reproductive function.
mortonjag 2008-03-20 11:12:32
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Mar 20 2008, 11:01 AM) [snapback]422466[/snapback]
That was my question smile.gif

I think Rae was talking about signing three players on contracts rather than emergency loans (which my question was about).

Did he misunderstand?
mortonjag 2008-03-20 11:22:21
QUOTE(Toby @ Mar 20 2008, 11:17 AM) [snapback]422472[/snapback]
No, he used his usual spin that signing three players would cost £100k, in the hope that we'd just accept this is alot of money. I tried to point out that this would not be the cost for a mere 6 weeks but didn't get the opportunity. To be fair, I didn't want it turning into the Toby & Dougie so didn't try too hard to ask the question before we moved on.

TY
mortonjag 2008-03-20 11:43:23
QUOTE(Yoda @ Mar 20 2008, 11:38 AM) [snapback]422475[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-03-20 11:45:40
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 20 2008, 11:42 AM) [snapback]422476[/snapback]
yip. mortonjag seems oblivious to the fact that he has alienated himself from a lot of decent posters on this board.

That's not your opinion. You're just plagiarising my signature.
mortonjag 2008-03-20 12:02:41
QUOTE(Marc @ Mar 20 2008, 11:48 AM) [snapback]422480[/snapback]
It was also said about the youth set up in comparison to Hamilton, which then got compared to Rangers paying £12 Million for Murray Park and not seeing a lot of the money back, which Toby replied with the best answer... "Alan Hutton" rolleyes.gif

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Is Hamilton good enough for the Premier League? Doubtful. I would say, I think that if they win promotion that they will have to strengthen their team with some premier league type signings.

Hamilton has a good defence though, as they have proven in home matches, which has seen them lose only three goals in nine or ten home matches. Hamilton, though, currently have a secret weapon, their artificial playing surface. On Saturday it was very slippy, a distinct advantage over other teams who play on their artificial surface only a couple of times a season while Hamilton has some 18 or more home matches in which to hone their own style for playing on an artificial surface.



As stated by Mr Rae.

I just wish we had some 'secret weapons' Shoogly!
mortonjag 2008-03-20 12:14:11
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Mar 20 2008, 11:59 AM) [snapback]422483[/snapback]
16000 plus posts later..

im sure that keyboard will go up in smoke one day, fookin hell, it is a little repetitive on these boards nowadays.



mortonjag

Posts: 16,469
Views: 1,703

puggsy_ton

Posts: 11,341
Views: 571

ThornTON

Posts: 11,286
Views: 793

GibbyTON

Posts: 9,133
Views: 977
DongaTon


Posts 8.500


Mortonjag is a retired gentleman. All of those others are reportedly in some kind of occupation or full time course. Never once have I heard criticism of the number of posts from them.

Hmm!
mortonjag 2008-03-20 14:27:48
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 20 2008, 12:30 PM) [snapback]422494[/snapback]
That is unbelievable, even by your standards of conceit! You have paraphrased the man then smugly call him a liar for the words YOU put down!! And you accuse Douglas Rae of spin!
How can you have the audacity to call someone a liar when you didn’t have the strength of your own convictions to go and listen to what the man actually said? No one else that went to the meeting, to my knowledge anyway is accusing him of lying. Only you, and you weren’t even there!
It would seem that your pomposity knows no bounds.
Do you know Chris Millar? Do you actually know the truth here ? Do you really know the details of the conversations that went on between Club, Agent and Player? Or are you just passing off your negative speculation as gospel again?
Folks? unsure.gif Why are you asking us? Surely if you wanted to know that you could have gone along last night and asked for yourself. Or was that just another example of your outstanding wit that you insist we should all appreciate as much as you do?

You'd be better off not making assumptions about whom and what I know and don't know.

Every sycophantic Shooglyphile is having a little field day because yet again some folk dare to call his behaviour in question.

My signature remains UNCHANGED.
mortonjag 2008-03-20 14:29:59
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 20 2008, 02:26 PM) [snapback]422522[/snapback]
laugh.gif it's amazing how many people one old man at a computer can upset.

i hardly agree with anything he says and spend most of my time arguing with him but i take what he says with a pinch of salt. let the guy spend his retirement how he likes, its actually rather sweet that we all mean so much to him that this is how he chooses to spend his leisure years, i think he'd be lost without us.

you're welcome to annoy me any time old timer. tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-20 14:30:42
QUOTE(Muz @ Mar 20 2008, 02:29 PM) [snapback]422524[/snapback]
f*** OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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mortonjag 2008-03-20 14:32:49
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 20 2008, 12:45 PM) [snapback]422498[/snapback]
There is fallacy about recouping money from the youth set up . Rangers did not open Murray Park to produce players for sale . They did so as they realised how much money can be saved from producing your own players .
Rangers under 19s last season swept the boards last season , those are thee next potential 1st team players of the near future .

A good youth set up provides you with your own players the by product is that bigger clubs or those with more money can purchase those players .

Whatever money we spent on guys like Templeman that money would have been better spent on producing more players for our future .

Indeed-seven years and not a penny for a home grown talent.
mortonjag 2008-03-20 15:11:50
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 20 2008, 12:53 PM) [snapback]422501[/snapback]
It would certainly appear that heterosexuality is the way nature or evolution intended it to work, and no doubt in a world where everything and everyone developed perfectly it would be the case for everyone. And undoubtedly heterosexuality is normal in that it is the norm (or is the correct term "mode"?). Anyway, the situation that occurs most frequently, in statistical terms.

As was voting Labour in Scotland for countless ages, and sending little boys down big chimney stacks!

I avoided the adjective in favour of 'correct' as I believe the concept of 'right and wrong' is inherent in homophobia.

I don't understand a homosexual drive any more than a gay person understands mine. I don't understand how anybody can derive pleasure from watching 'Swan Lake' either, but I'm pretty certain I'm not a balletphobe.
mortonjag 2008-03-20 15:16:26
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 20 2008, 02:49 PM) [snapback]422530[/snapback]
The MRUK Cello poll

The SNP's lead over Labour has soared to 8% on the constituency vote and 10 points on the regional list vote

The SNP are projected to win 57 seats - 13 more than Labour

Alex Salmond's ratings are +53

Wendy Alexander's ratings are -22

Among Labour voters, 66% say Alex Salmond is doing a good job, compared with 39% who believe Wendy Alexander is doing well.

Three times as many Scots trust Salmond over Alexander to deal with all the main areas of devolved government.

40% of Scots are less likely to vote Labour as a result of Wendy Alexander's illegal donation problems.

A quarter believe they are serious enough to warrant her resignation, while a further 15% think she should quit for other reasons.

Two-thirds of Scots say that they would vote for independence in certain circumstances.

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That is not in the slightest funny Spurtle-include me in those 2/3rds the minute I sense we have a party with the experience and maturity to do the job for the general good.

What's currently happening is quite pathetic.
mortonjag 2008-03-20 15:20:23
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 20 2008, 02:53 PM) [snapback]422532[/snapback]
Is that first sentence meant to be some kind of a threat or warning to me? blink.gif

Your signature should read " Don't they hate us when we spin the truth "

Now be a good boy and do as Muz says.

Just read what you posted over again!!!!!



Facts are chiels that winna ding!
mortonjag 2008-03-20 15:22:54
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 20 2008, 03:11 PM) [snapback]422540[/snapback]
Our posts are better? wink.gif

No win situation for the Jag then-try as I will to match your excellence, I inevitably fail, and am pilloried for humble effort!
mortonjag 2008-03-20 15:26:30
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 20 2008, 03:22 PM) [snapback]422545[/snapback]
You seem to be one of the few that thinks Doc tongue.gif

Very true Spurtle, very true!
mortonjag 2008-03-20 16:19:48
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 20 2008, 03:35 PM) [snapback]422549[/snapback]
Halifax is the best place I've had a curry.

Do they do home deliveries?
mortonjag 2008-03-20 16:35:19
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 20 2008, 04:20 PM) [snapback]422560[/snapback]
Come on MJ. Your vendetta against Douglas Rae does become a bit wearing, even for those who sympthise with your views. DFR is a Morton fan and if the club is his plaything, well thats the situation and there's not much any of us can do about it. I will say, however, its an expensive toy!!

As for your signature, it might be better expressed as:

Don't they just hate it when I speculate on the truth

No Tonsilitis-that's the whole point-I'm extremely careful not to make allegations I can't substantiate.

It's pretty obvious that most-possibly yourself included- buy into this old geezer sitting isolated at a computer somewhere in Glasgow.

I am in frequent communication with several other posters by pm, and can assure you I'm kept up to date with goings on behind the scenes.

Mr Rae has been caught out on lies many times in the past-it is NOT a new phenomenon, and the specific instances I mentioned-Millar, sponsorship, and the youth set up, are merely three areas where he's been less than honest.

Don't forget some of us still have a full record of correspondence last summer during the Stan Webster debacle. That is just another example of the strange goings on down Cappielow way.

Fair enough-I DO go on a bit, though frequently only in defence against the usual accusations and aggression from those who don't like the truth, but please don't call ME a liar. It's something I don't do-SIMPLE.

mortonjag 2008-03-20 17:18:20
QUOTE(.:BrIDo:. @ Mar 20 2008, 04:31 PM) [snapback]422563[/snapback]
So, you're buying your opinion? There's a simple solution to that. If you don't like this club the way it is.. go and find another one.

What a preposterous suggestion. I was asked what right I have to state my opinion and I told you. If you think the reasons given are unfair I suggest you ask others who pay to watch.

Your second comment is worthy of scorn-goodness-those words could have come straight from Mr Rae's mouth.

Maybe you are Mr Rae.
mortonjag 2008-03-20 17:26:44
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Mar 20 2008, 04:35 PM) [snapback]422566[/snapback]
Very true...

I don't agree with what our chairman comments on or the way some of his running of the club is done but i don't go on a rant about it every day, your post's are getting pathetic and annoying. I come on this website every other day and almost every time i am not suprised to see a topic from MortonJag going on a rant about our chairman, the players, the manager or the mascot!! Do you think when you do these post's that people are going to jump on board with you???

Well...

Maby they would have the first time you done the topic but when you continue to rant about the same thing over and over again you become annoying and hated.

You seem like a wise old man, shame you don't act like one.... cool.gif



QUOTE(tolmie perms r bak @ Mar 20 2008, 04:39 PM) [snapback]422569[/snapback]
guys shouldnt we all be pulling in the one direction thats why these rallys should be at the end of the season so we can discuss where we went right and wrong, NOT before our cup-final on sat prob our biggest game of the season
yes there is things dougie rae / crawford rae do or have done, that i dont agree with,but surely they have morton at heart, there is prob things we all do in work / life that somebody wont agree with but its your choice, ok there maybe be mistakes along the way but we all have the best interests at heart.
if any of you were a manager or chairman you would prob go and sign players that i wouldnt like or agree with but it doesnt make you wrong so stop the BITCHING and get behind the TON, then critise at the end of the season
CMON THE TON



QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 20 2008, 04:40 PM) [snapback]422571[/snapback]
f*** off you!!!



QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 20 2008, 04:51 PM) [snapback]422578[/snapback]
Yet the fruits of all this investigative journalism have so far comprised a small battery of unfunny nicknames for various club/messageboard figures, and your unwillingness to confront the club about them due to wanting to pull together for promotion... er, a trip to London... um, not thinking it'll do any good.



QUOTE(Mr H Palms @ Mar 20 2008, 04:55 PM) [snapback]422581[/snapback]
jag, the bottom line is that you had your chance last night to go toe to toe with doogie and you shat yourself, end of story. It dosent matter that you had people there telling you what when on. You are by far the biggest critic of doogie on here and you soiled your pants at the thought of standing up in front of people and taking him on. Most people on here, if they felt so strongly as you do would have went along and aired their views but not you, your coming up with excuses like the weather for not going to the town hall. You had your chance jag and blew big time



QUOTE(Kaney @ Mar 20 2008, 04:57 PM) [snapback]422584[/snapback]
MJ you're a f*cking fanny. Making a topic to draw attention to yourself, what an ars*hole.

Your constant critisism of Rae is just so much ridiculous as just plain f*cking stupid..

Rae purchased and saved this club in its 11th hour, and is constantly pumping cash into it to try and bring us a good team and something worth supporting.
What the f*ck have YOU ever done for Morton?
Sat behind your pc, moaning about how all these folk at Morton aren't/cant do their job properly. What is that bringing to the club? Why are you here?

Seriously. The majority of us are here to support our club through thick and thin. Call yourself a fan of Morton all you want, but you really dont act like it. You're just a fandan. A total fandan.
Tell you what, gawn support East Stirling. I bet you'll find more to moan about there than with us.

Ya w*nk.



QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Mar 20 2008, 05:03 PM) [snapback]422586[/snapback]
Agreed , All Mouth (Keyboard) ..

TTG MJ

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Goodness gentlemen-Mortonjag DOES upset you a little. I can't understand why you're all so touchy when the Ton is progressing in leaps and bounds, just as all TRUE supporters want. unsure.gif


Perhaps you should be targeting the real villain of the piece.
mortonjag 2008-03-20 17:30:28
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 20 2008, 05:10 PM) [snapback]422592[/snapback]
i just realised, although everyone else probably did ages ago that, by taking this Job if JM f***s it up then that will be him done in management forever probably as there isnt anywhere lower to go.

bit of a risk, and not a promising start for him with two 3-0 defeats but he'll have to pull it round for the sake of his career.

And I just realised my friend that I took the same kind of abuse for criticising JM two and more seasons ago, as I'm taking today for calling the Chairman in question!

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mortonjag 2008-03-20 17:33:05
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 20 2008, 05:28 PM) [snapback]422599[/snapback]
Yeah, by going to a rally and asking the tough questions... oh, wait.

I explained why I did not go. You are flogging a dead horse and demeaning yourself in so doing.
mortonjag 2008-03-20 17:35:23
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 20 2008, 04:55 PM) [snapback]422583[/snapback]
Cheers to those who asked questions on the youth situation in particular. smile.gif

Why were you not there to ask questions for yourself-no excuses mind! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-20 17:36:24
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 20 2008, 05:35 PM) [snapback]422607[/snapback]
to be fair you explained about 5 excuses reasons. How was London btw? tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-20 17:40:48
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 20 2008, 05:35 PM) [snapback]422608[/snapback]
A bit of advice for you wee man dry.gif ................. When you're in a hole- Stop Digging!

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mortonjag 2008-03-20 17:43:04
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 20 2008, 05:40 PM) [snapback]422616[/snapback]
Nach0king doesnt have to justify being there or not as he hasn't used 16,000 + postings to bleat on to us all about what he feels is wrong with the club.

You just dont get it do you? blink.gif

Do you also wipe his arse for him?
mortonjag 2008-03-20 17:51:59
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 20 2008, 05:42 PM) [snapback]422619[/snapback]
You didn't go because you shat out of it, yet you're still on here berating everyone else for not being privy to your insider information and not thinking that "Shoogly" is the spawn of satan.

There aren't half as many "Shooglyphiles" as you think there are, yet that's the stock accusation thrown at anyone foolish enough to get involved in one of your poisonous threads.

Change the f***ing record. You had the chance to do something about all the evils that apparently permeate the club at every level, and you shat out of it.

So good you had to say it twice and you've the cheek to talk about poisonous threads.

How would you know how many 'Shooglyphiles' there are any more than I do?

Nobody 'had the chance to do something about it' you clot-THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT.

I've thanked those who did ask questions, and their feedback is that, as expected, Rae evaded those directed to him. You chose to stay away.

As I've said elsewhere, nobody is defending the Chairman any more. We are perhaps progressing slowly in the awareness stakes.
mortonjag 2008-03-20 17:59:07
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Mar 20 2008, 05:44 PM) [snapback]422622[/snapback]
perhaps sometimes its nice to come on to a forum to read everyones views and this is what pisses people off. but fair enough you have the time to kill.

we should change this address to mortonjag.org.

Its not your views that annoy, many of them are probably shared with a lot of the board users, its the spamming manner of putting them across that becomes tedious. its not about reading different views on morton anymore, its about opening this forum and just reading the same view point over and over and over and over etc. its very dull getting.

Fair enough-that's how it appears WIG.

Why don't you analyse what actually happens?

Without comment and controversy the forum would die. Every comment, and every controversial post I make on certain topics results in a flurry of abuse-personal attacks are most common, followed by posing of questions, which of course I attempt to answer.

Even though I say this, I'll be surprised if some jumped up clown doesn't rise to the bait and reply to this post.
mortonjag 2008-03-20 18:01:00
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 20 2008, 05:58 PM) [snapback]422628[/snapback]
At least one of the guys you quoted earlier has criticised the chairman in the past at least once - in fact I'd say almost everyone on the board has - but apparently when they post in response to you they somehow morph into unquestioning lickspittles.

Are you seriously saying that if you showed up at the rally with all this secret correspondence you were talking about earlier and stood up and read it out, there wouldn't be at least some repercussion from it?

I chose to work last night. Iprobably could have asked for the night off, but I'd prefer to save my holidays for other things, and the one question I wanted asked was indeed covered by various people... I suppose that's analogous with spending three years of leisure years posting this and that about the chairman and then fumbling around trying to find an excuse for my bricking it when the chance comes to say my piece to him.

So the shooglyphiles aren't defending the chairman? What makes them shoogyphiles, then, other than your addiction to pish nicknames?

I don't understand a word of that. Do you?
mortonjag 2008-03-20 18:02:15
QUOTE(Kaney @ Mar 20 2008, 05:51 PM) [snapback]422626[/snapback]
TTG!

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mortonjag 2008-03-20 18:04:45
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 20 2008, 05:43 PM) [snapback]422621[/snapback]
Because I was working last night until around 11pm.

Your work was clearly more important to you than attending what you knew would be a waste of time.
mortonjag 2008-03-20 18:07:25
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 20 2008, 05:49 PM) [snapback]422624[/snapback]
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Now who is demeaning themselves?

Don't be daft-Nach0's a big boy-he doesn't need (or necessarily want) you jumping to his defence when all you're really doing is TRYING to score cheap points.

BTW what do you think of Mr Rae's stewardship of the club so far?
mortonjag 2008-03-20 18:08:41
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 20 2008, 05:49 PM) [snapback]422625[/snapback]
i just typed Mortonjag into google and this came up

http://www.specialistauctions.com/valuatio...mp;topic_id=826
i espescially like the bit where the guy asks you for close up pictures of your ring. had a feeling you'd be going onto those kind of sites when you retired you dirty old man. laugh.gif

You are a naughty boy. The fatal fascination with mortonjag continues. Would you like to see my ring?
mortonjag 2008-03-20 18:16:10
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 20 2008, 06:03 PM) [snapback]422632[/snapback]
After skipping over the bit about poisonous threads in your last reply to me, I addressed your other four points in turn.

p.s. a whole two minutes elapsed before you climbed up onto your cross to say that you deigned to "try to answer" questions set to you and the pithy one-liner that you provided just now. f***ing incredible.

I'm sorry sonny boy, but you really are irritating me, and it's not often I admit that.

The reason is simple-you ARE an intelligent man-yet you've bought into the 'personal attacks when all else fails' stuff of the common 5/8ths. Don't bother accusing me of personal attacks-they are ALWAYS in defence.

Admit it-this has very little to do with Douglas Rae-you just can't cope with Mortonjag.

BTW-what do you think of Mr Rae's stewardship of the club to date?
mortonjag 2008-03-20 18:18:00
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 20 2008, 06:04 PM) [snapback]422633[/snapback]
giving him another thread all to himself is exactly the right thing to do. tongue.gif

Shh-I won't have anything to do!
mortonjag 2008-03-21 06:38:42
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 20 2008, 06:22 PM) [snapback]422648[/snapback]
Is this your idea of trying to answer questions? Because you're doing a pish job of it.

I think if you total up DDF's achievements as Morton "steward" from the day of his takeover to date, and allot points to them, things are around 60:40 in a good:bad ratio. I think the upgrades made to the stadium, the fact that (after a winding road) we are in division 1, the improved (but still not perfect - not by a long stretch) financial situation of the club, and other such "facts on the ground" are positives. I think a questionable attitude towards the fans, a micromanaging approach, the youth system, some of our transfers, and his reluctance to strengthen the squad last summer are among his failings.

Fair enough, and I respect people's opinions even when I strongly disagree with them.

Furthermore I've learned how to cope reasonably well with harassment of most kinds Nach0,and that includes personal abuse from those who don't know better. Sometimes they're best ignored, and sometimes they're best put in their place. I'm talking in a general sense-not specifically about Morton fans.

I'm happy to draw a veil over this thread by pasting this from today's Herald. You will remember that Partick Thistle were the team who beat us in the play offs as Mr Rae chose to retain Jim McInally's services.




Thistle’s gambles starting to pay off
MARTIN GREIG March 21 2008

Partick Thistle could earn as much as £300,000 from their quarter-final tie with Rangers and in so doing completely wipe out their predicted annual losses.


The Firhill club drew 1-1 with Rangers at Ibrox on Wednesday night to set up a potentially lucrative replay at home. The replay compounds Rangers' already hectic fixture schedule, but Thistle are hopeful that the tie will be staged on Sunday, April 13, the proposed date for the semi-final tie, and that it will also be televised.

Thistle already stand to profit to the tune of around £120,000 from their 40% share of the 36,000 Ibrox attendance. A Firhill capacity crowd for the replay could net them a further £100,000, while TV money would add on another £82,500. "The financial implications of Wednesday night's result and the forthcoming replay are huge for us," said Tom Hughes, the club's finance director.


"This year, we expected to lose between £300,000 to £350,000, but last night's game would have halved that. Depending on TV coverage, we could reduce that even more. We are hoping that the game will take place on Sunday April 13 and it will be live on TV. If that happens we would be looking at almost eliminating our predicted losses for the year.

"There was some talk about playing it next week, but that is impossible because it is the Easter weekend and we could not get the ticketing organised in time. Rangers are in Europe during the next two midweeks following next week's Scotland game. They moved our game so that they could play the Hibs game on the quarter-final day, so we are hoping that they decide to play it on the semi-final day. We are hoping it will be a sellout at Firhill for the replay."

Thistle's impressive cup run, under the shrewd guidance of manager Ian McCall, has vindicated the club's policy of investing more in the team. It was a bold step with the medium to long-term aim of restoring the club to the Premier League.

"We are still recovering from building the stand and dropping out of the SPL. We decided to change our policy last year," explained Hughes. "In the past we had always reacted by cutting costs but when you do that you go into freefall.

"We had a big discussion on whether we should turn part-time, but we made the decision to stay full-time. This year, with the management changes, we decided to support Ian and stay full-time. At the beginning of last year we budgeted for a loss and gave him a budget to sign players on longer-term contracts.

"We have a plan for the next three to five years - 90% of last night's team are signed for at least another year and a good proportion are signed for even longer. Liam Buchanan, Alan Archibald, David Rowson and Jonny Tuffey are all signed until 2010. For the first time in years and years we are very optimistic about the future on the park."

Thistle are currently mid-table in the first division, but next season McCall hopes to challenge for promotion.

"One of the big things is hanging on to the manager," added Hughes. "He has been a breath of fresh air and is very tactically astute. I think there are a lot of similarities with John Lambie in the way he uses and deals with players.

"We are really lucky to have him. The team have done their job this season and the fans have started to come back. It takes a long time to win them, but we are hopeful that it will be a sellout for the replay."
mortonjag 2008-03-21 06:48:12
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 20 2008, 07:24 PM) [snapback]422682[/snapback]
Its not your views that are the problem. Its

1) Their repetition ad naseum
2) The lack of any acceptance that anyone else may have a valid and supportable point of view.

I'm sure that you have the same basic affinity to Morton that we all have and only want the best for the club but you need to seriously think about how you get those views across.

I'm sorry good friend-I always acknowledge the right of others to have opinions, and mine to debate their validity.

Some folks appear huffy at times! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-21 06:56:38
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Mar 20 2008, 07:42 PM) [snapback]422694[/snapback]
Our resident retired doctor with only time on his hands and his pedestal for company reckoned I was talking rubbish when I said they might manage to survive beyond the season.

I said I wouldn't be surprised if they were here this time next season and I'm becoming even more convinced by the week.


I don't seem to re call making ANY comments on this thread so far, but thanks for the opportunity when all around are attempting to gag me.

I would not be in the slightest surprised if Gretna fail to fulfil their league obligations-only time will tell-not selfish SPL manipulation.


QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 20 2008, 07:57 PM) [snapback]422702[/snapback]
yes but you're just a child wink.gif

How old is he Trumpet?
mortonjag 2008-03-21 07:01:33
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 20 2008, 06:18 PM) [snapback]422646[/snapback]
(nach0king)
Because I was working last night until around 11pm.
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(Mortonjag)
Your work was clearly more important to you than attending what you knew would be a waste of time.
Don't they hate us when we tell the truth

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Is this you telling the truth or a classic example of you spinning again .

Time to call it day I think. You know you've lost this and you've been left looking like a complete tool.

More personal insults from our resident Kilmacomic.

Would it be naughty if I suggested that you seem to owe Nach0 a favour?
mortonjag 2008-03-21 07:04:17
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 20 2008, 06:32 PM) [snapback]422654[/snapback]
It must have been a different Dean Keenan that I saw playing well when McLaughlin was out injured and who got player of the month on JonaTon's blog and who everyone was on here saying how much he'd improved than the one that's absolutely useless.

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mortonjag 2008-03-21 07:06:01
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Mar 20 2008, 11:24 PM) [snapback]422809[/snapback]
A rising tide raises all ships.

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Titanic's taking a while.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 07:07:26
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 20 2008, 06:04 PM) [snapback]422634[/snapback]
I will be phoning the administrators in the morning to say that I assume they will be using the money from the Celtic game to pay their creditors in full. Anything else, such as using the money to run the club until May, would be theft IMHO. Particularly as after this weekend, any remaining games will be run at a loss.

This whole business is getting fishier and fishier. Where have the funds come from to allow them to continue?

SPL greed and complicity Alibi-simple as that.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 07:12:16 It's not a new system at all. It's called attack,and was used to great advantage by famous Ton sides of former years.

Most fans will go home happy with two scored against, if the boys knock in five.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 07:15:53
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 21 2008, 07:08 AM) [snapback]422850[/snapback]
It's a great way to be a smart arse. Come up with a point of view, stick with it regardless and when it eventually happens you say you were right all along. Take McInally for instance, football managers generally all get the bullet eventually so when he arrives you say he's rubbish and stick by that despite anything that happens in between. The Celtic fans are doing the same to Strachan where from day 1 he's never been "Celtic class" and despite winning back to back championships and taking Celtic further in the Champs League than they've ever been, a couple of struggling performances sees the I told you so brigade out in full force.

You appear to be suggesting that I was wrong in my assessment of Jim McInally!

May I humbly and with due deference to your immutable right of opinion, suggest that you may be slightly mistaken?
mortonjag 2008-03-21 07:18:53
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 20 2008, 06:51 PM) [snapback]422661[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

come to Sydney, mate and I will give you the pleasure of seeing Swan Lake at the SOH.

What else would you like to come for ?

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ballet's for pufes.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 07:25:31
QUOTE(capitanus @ Mar 20 2008, 08:44 PM) [snapback]422727[/snapback]
Well i've been down Allison Street many times before, and its kinda similar, i think.

Before you ask, Allison Street did exist in 1963/4 season.

...When Govanhill was a respectable working class/lower middle class residential area, with only a smattering of first generation Asians.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 07:32:36
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Mar 20 2008, 10:18 PM) [snapback]422776[/snapback]
Nope Newt.

WWII was within our fathers' memories, and hence we got it direct.

For other weans now it was their great grandfathers who might have fought.
Oh Tempora, Oh mores. sad.gif

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WW11 is still within many living memories Mr Bam-I have a vivid recollection of my Mum's Ration Book, and can remember, for example reconstituted egg (known as 'powdered egg'), which was sold in brown paper pokes.


I was conceived during WW11-some folks would argue that I lived through it.

Churchill certainly gave a toss about our national identity.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 07:35:03
QUOTE(Dr Zhivago @ Mar 20 2008, 10:55 PM) [snapback]422791[/snapback]
A new addition to the Morton family this morning... son number two for 'Dr Zhivago'! biggrin.gif

Will never sit well that the place of birth for both was Paisley!! tongue.gif

Congratulations to you both.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 07:40:56
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Mar 21 2008, 01:53 AM) [snapback]422836[/snapback]
Mon the f***ing Jag. Aye, I hated you at first but I've grown to love ye. Jag must stay!!

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BTW you never answered my last question-did yer bum shut with a bang?

Not all jobbies are tapered.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 08:10:50
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 21 2008, 07:21 AM) [snapback]422856[/snapback]
Far from it, what I am saying if you care to take the time to read what I've rotten is that predicting a football manager will get the sack or walk as McInally did is mere child's play as it will most likely hapen eventually, be it in six months or six years. I can only hope that you paid more attention to your patient's notes than you do to simple, uncomplicated rag posts.

I always read posts before replying AND before posting Ratarse! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Of course managers come and go-sometimes to better things. They do NOT inevitably get the sack or 'walk' as you appear to suggest. Some move on to greater things.

I did not rate JM from the word 'go', and I consistently explained why-UNLIKE 75% of posters who I believe, behaved like sheep.

Think carefully before you reply. It's utterly possible that I could have been wrong, and that JM could now be managing in the Premiership.

I'd also like to point out that I predicted a successful management career for Derek McInnes, the minute he took over at St Johnstone. I may prove to be wrong. Indeed in sticking my neck out positively, I appear to have somewhat weakened your argument.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 08:21:23 This is just a game which the optimists always seem to lose those days.

Can it get any worse-can the Livvy forwards mug us for a fourth time?

Can't see why not-nothing seems to have changed that much.

Hope springs eternal-Morton 3 Livvy 1

LEAFY, Jamie, Spoonsy.

mortonjag 2008-03-21 08:24:09
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 21 2008, 08:17 AM) [snapback]422868[/snapback]
I think you may have missed the joke, Josie. Or was it Francie that was good at rotten songs? biggrin.gif

Can't remember DE but they were a funny pair.


Gonnygeezapunnaburrafurramurra
mortonjag 2008-03-21 08:29:10
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 21 2008, 03:37 AM) [snapback]422837[/snapback]
"Nappy- headed hos," the phrase that cost US radio shock jock Don Imus his job and triggered a debate on how far free speech can go, was named as the most egregious politically incorrect turn of phrase in 2007.

Trailing behind that phrase in the annual survey by Global Language Monitor (www.LanguageMonitor.com), a word usage group, were "Ho-Ho-Ho" and "Carbon Footprint Stomping," said the group's president Paul JJ Payack.

"Ho-Ho-Ho" made the list after a staffing company in Sydney, Australia suggested to prospective Santas they drop their traditional greeting in favor of "Ha-Ha-Ha" so as not to invoke images of the derogatory US slang term for women.
"Carbon Footprint Stomping" is a phrase used to describe flaunting environmentally "green" activities by doing things like driving gas-guzzling Hummers and flying private jets, which in these energy-conscious times might be considered the height of political incorrectness.

New York-based Imus was fired from his popular morning radio program by CBS in April 2007 after a national controversy erupted over his use of the "Nappy-headed" phrase to describe the Rutgers University women's basketball team. Imus later apologised and met with the team to ask for forgiveness.

Last November, he was hired by a different network.

"It is no surprise that 'Nappy-headed hos' was selected as the top politically incorrect word or phrase for 2007," said Mr Payack.

"A year later that phrase is still ricocheting about the Internet, even affecting Christmas-season Santas in Australia "

Among other examples on the list are:

"Fire-breathing Dragon" - Children's book author Lindsey Gardiner was asked to eliminate a fire-breathing dragon from her new book because publishers feared they could be sued under health and safety regulations.

"Wucha dun did now?" - The subtitle of a "Ghetto Handbook" distributed by a Houston school district police officer to enable readers to speak "as if you just came out of the 'hood."

"Gypsy skirt" - The colorful layered skirt was given a new name, "Traveller Skirt," since police in Cornwall, a county in southwest England, believed the term "Gypsy Skirt" might be considered offensive to Gypsies.

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And the term West Country Pasty has been introduced to avoid offence to the anaemic geriatrics of St Ives.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 08:38:02
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 21 2008, 08:31 AM) [snapback]422872[/snapback]
I'm currently 'out to tender' with a specialised residential care facility for people with a diagnosis of dementia. Site start is programmed for August with completion one year thereafter. Do you want me to book you a place? There are twelve left. McB and CHC are sharing a double room. I've got the penthouse suite of course. laugh.gif

Is Newt coming?
mortonjag 2008-03-21 08:44:08
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 21 2008, 08:33 AM) [snapback]422873[/snapback]
I fail to see how without knowing each of the individuals personally that you can assess that McInally would fail and McInnes will succeed before their teams have even kicked a ball. Like I say it's nothing more than a gamble. Have St Johnstone been successful? Yes a couple of good cup runs and a chace of Hampden glory but they are further off the pace in the league than they were last season when they ran a bankrolled Gretna close to the wire. Not exactly a resounding success. and not exactly the best example you've used. Agreed not all managers get the sack or walk from a disapointment but they do far outnumber the relative few that get promoted up the chain as it were. It's also just as easy to predict success as it is failure. It's just as easy to put positive spin on something as it to give something a negative spin.

Rather than behaving like sheep I am of the opinion that most of the support were prepared to give the guy a chance and started with a neutral opinion of McInally. It's perhaps ironic (perhaps deliberately ironic?) that you criticise auld shoogly for patronising the fans and the whole shoogly show yet you call 75% (a significant majority) of posters on here sheep for not agreeing with your every word. Your posts are degenerating with each one into a series of inane ramblings that surpass anything rotten in the Chairman's Notes.

I understand what you say, and I don't imagine I'd be much good at your job either, though I did discover the obvious lead piping missed during the 'walk through' survey of my son's house, much to the annoyance of a well established Southside firm who grudgingly settled out of court.

As to 'inane ramblings'-that's becoming the stock insult phrase-do try to be more inventive.

mortonjag 2008-03-21 08:47:49
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Mar 21 2008, 08:44 AM) [snapback]422877[/snapback]
I read in the paper a couple of weeks ago that Whistlers were looking for staff, re-opening as Tokyo Joe's, ahh, memories. rolleyes.gif

I'm free!
mortonjag 2008-03-21 08:49:49
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 21 2008, 08:47 AM) [snapback]422880[/snapback]
That is because is he actually a tw@t. smile.gif

Tw@t = extremely wealthy and successful man? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-21 09:30:51
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 21 2008, 09:05 AM) [snapback]422890[/snapback]
I could have sworn it was Peterhead that beat us in the play-offs. rolleyes.gif

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Peterhead were promoted ahead of us that season?

Another typical example of the smartarse kind of post the Jag has to reply to Naitch, and YOU can carry the can for that one! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-21 09:32:53
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 21 2008, 08:39 AM) [snapback]422875[/snapback]
Is he still alive?

Is he newt?
mortonjag 2008-03-21 09:34:41
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 21 2008, 08:50 AM) [snapback]422882[/snapback]
That's got to be the worst insult I've seen on this board. I didn't know that calling somebody an estate agent would be allowed. Shame on you.

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It was MUCH worse DE-a halluvalot worse to be precise! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-21 09:43:24
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 21 2008, 08:55 AM) [snapback]422884[/snapback]
Because they are in administration - protects them from any action, including the court action I took, which probably cost a few thousand and is now pretty well a waste of time.

I reckon the system is set up to let people rip people off - I must go out today and buy a Ferrari and then file for administration at tea time.


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Our fellow poster with big pharyngeal lymph nodes will no doubt correct me, but Administrators appear disinterested in personalities.

So long as their fee has been paid and the figures look right, real live people apparently play little part in their miserable professional trudge through life.

I make no apology for comparing them to undertakers.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 09:51:15
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 21 2008, 09:00 AM) [snapback]422887[/snapback]
And you can't get Gypsy Creams any more. Except in Oz, where they have been renamed Romany Creams. FFS....

...and *potential ethnic slur removed* brown polish was once entirely PC.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 09:55:11
QUOTE(Mr H Palms @ Mar 20 2008, 09:23 PM) [snapback]422747[/snapback]
aye, euthanasia4U and necrophilia R us




I indeed have a large tranche of shares in the Tata group, though my other company 'In Dead Ernest' is of the limited liability variety.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 09:56:42
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 21 2008, 09:30 AM) [snapback]422897[/snapback]
oui, mon ami

etes vous un pufe celebre newt?
mortonjag 2008-03-21 09:58:39
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 21 2008, 09:00 AM) [snapback]422886[/snapback]
Regardless of how wealthy or successful someone is, they can still be a tw@t of a person smile.gif

A wealthy and successful tw*t? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-21 10:02:03
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 20 2008, 10:35 PM) [snapback]422780[/snapback]
A great actor died today. He refused to take royalty's patronage (a knighthood) on two occasions. Unlike that much lesser talent (and pretend Scotsman) Shir Shawn.

What was his most famous hour DE? I know little about the arts.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 10:18:02
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 21 2008, 10:04 AM) [snapback]422912[/snapback]
Probably 'A Man for All Seasons'.

Bloody hell DE-I knew that rung a bell-saw it in the Cinema in Hastings in 1967 if I'm not mistaken. I was dragged there by a sweet girl I met while on holiday-Hilary White from Petts Wood, Orpington.

Have you met her?
mortonjag 2008-03-21 10:20:02
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 21 2008, 10:06 AM) [snapback]422913[/snapback]
I'm sure we can think of someone you would surely put under that banner! rolleyes.gif

Shoorly not!
mortonjag 2008-03-21 10:29:36
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 21 2008, 10:13 AM) [snapback]422915[/snapback]
well done to nacho for being bothered to write what we all know. it's quite pathetic watching mentaljag claim to have any credibility left after his craven refusal to let dougie know in person what you think of him.

how was london by the way, mj? i always make time for a visit to the british museum. i hope you managed to stop by - there's an exhibition about the atlantic slave trade on just now. you should read up on it. maybe get away from the computer for an hour or so a day.

You lot are a bit late, but better late than never-neighbours been shagging again?

Trying Polyfilla on the shoulder?

Self gratifying in the knowledge that you are so important and charge society SO little?

Oh-and London-that's the second time some clot has failed to read what I wrote. Plenty of old fossils down Inverclyde way, and Spurtle would disapprove of a visit to the British Museum anyway.

I do try to keep my fellow posters contented.


mortonjag 2008-03-21 10:38:53
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Mar 21 2008, 10:23 AM) [snapback]422920[/snapback]
A nurse told The Sun Newspaper how she nearly died from an allergic reaction to her knickers.

Kim (37 of Edinburgh) claimed a fibre used to absorb moisture in her £4 control pants could have sparked the dangerous reaction, most commonly linked to nut allergies, she further commented "I whipped the knickers off and tried to control the reaction"

Kim I have the same problem when a lady takes her knickers off in front of me and dont even start me on moistness and nuts

While no picture can be legally copyrighted, I am led to believe the knickers are similar to these.

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDI'll be interested to find out if they've subsequently established the true cause of the anaphylactic reaction.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 10:40:58
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 21 2008, 10:28 AM) [snapback]422923[/snapback]
Never mind that, you haven't answered my earlier question. Do you want to reserve a place or not?

Will I get to bring my computer, the monkey, and fing, my guitar, and a change of catheter bag?
mortonjag 2008-03-21 10:42:05
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 21 2008, 10:31 AM) [snapback]422927[/snapback]
Scratch that. They sell the glass bottles in the bowling alley in St. Helier.

Are you in?
mortonjag 2008-03-21 10:47:37
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 21 2008, 10:40 AM) [snapback]422934[/snapback]
one at a time, i suppose.

i do other things with my time.
are you talking about the proverbial chip? who fills chips? and anyway, what chip have i got exactly?
i don't know where you get the idea that i am self-important. it's a bit hypocritical of you to throw that insult around. and a wee throwaway, self-mocking story i told on here the other day seems to have struck a note with you, and you alone. why don't you tell us why?


Who ARE youse?
mortonjag 2008-03-21 10:52:11
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Mar 21 2008, 10:36 AM) [snapback]422931[/snapback]
ive had my son there 4 times now and he is just over 2.

tbh its a pain in the erse! it was good the first time just as a photo opportunity and to get him initiated through the gates... but then you get the games where theres a limited interest in fitba. ie 2 minutes, i didnt even know there was two imitation birds hanging from the main stand roof until he started shouting "quack quack" and pointing at the roof...
another time he joined in the cheering and clapping with away fans.. (amazin..).

anyway, i ended up leaving just before halftime twice to nip down to ma maws at the bottom of the port, papping him and then driving back to watch the game myself. get them down get them in there and that, but there is little interest in the game.. ill give it til next season before i even thought of trying again. til he can run aboot a bit at the front of the sinclair st end or something and let me see some of the game!

living in glesga im just trying to get a "hook" on morton early, before any auldfirm influence at all. aye once as a baby just for the photies.. after that, get to enjoy yer last games of peace for a season or two.. as it will all end soon!

and congrats on the family addition!

Good luck!
mortonjag 2008-03-21 10:55:27
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 21 2008, 10:49 AM) [snapback]422943[/snapback]
Unless you're writing in code son, you're post said that 'Partick beat us in the play-offs'....we didn't even play the Harry Wraggs in the play-offs. rolleyes.gif

I'm well aware of what I wrote Grandad, and make no apology.

Four teams competed, and three were beaten to the SPL by Partick.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 10:57:27
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 21 2008, 10:49 AM) [snapback]422944[/snapback]
you'd think out of 16000 and counting posts there would be the odd unpredictable one.

LES-CHIENS_MANQUEE?

You are legion-or just a two headed dug?
mortonjag 2008-03-21 11:00:08
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 21 2008, 10:59 AM) [snapback]422953[/snapback]
Will you remember where you've put them? laugh.gif

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Why do you think I NEED them to come?
mortonjag 2008-03-21 11:02:53 First tasted alcohol in 'The Locker' in Gourock when I was seventeen. I was in Ravenscraig at the time.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 11:04:33
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 21 2008, 11:01 AM) [snapback]422955[/snapback]
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Giraffe's baws Puggs?
mortonjag 2008-03-21 11:08:13
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 21 2008, 11:02 AM) [snapback]422956[/snapback]
by us i meant the people on this messageboard, although you knew that fine well. another post you largely ignore, picking up on an inconsequential bit thus allowing yourself to believe that you answer everything and never lose an argument.

f*** this. wallpapering the kitchen is finally looking like good fun.

Of course I did-it never fails to amaze me how many folk think they speak with tongues! wink.gif


I'd suggest you don't wallpaper the kitchen-many more suitable coverings are available. I'm good at tiling if you'd like a hand.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 11:12:54
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 21 2008, 11:10 AM) [snapback]422962[/snapback]
do you have asberger's syndrome?

Would I know?
mortonjag 2008-03-21 11:18:34
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 21 2008, 11:12 AM) [snapback]422965[/snapback]
i told you you were just like Dougie and that is why you disliked him so much!

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I don't dislike Shoogly.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 11:21:45
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 21 2008, 11:14 AM) [snapback]422968[/snapback]
do you know if you have asberger's syndrome?

Cognitive function is impaired to a variable degree in Asperger's syndrome.

I'm not an expert on the condition. You could always 'Google' and see what comes up.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 11:32:50
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 21 2008, 11:14 AM) [snapback]422967[/snapback]
the only problem he has with his computer is that he's never feeeking aff the thing! laugh.gif

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It may seem like that to you young man, but it's just that I accomplish most other tasks quickly and efficiently.

For example, I NEVER let myself become constipated-goodness knows how much time that saves over the course of a year.

How much time would you allow yourself to complete the Herald crossword- I normally polish it off in less than twenty minutes.

I can also let you have my recipe for five minute fairy cakes, if you like fairy cakes or baking.

Oh..and of course I'm three quarters way through writing my autobiography 'From Rags to the Crematorium'.

I compose my own songs and entertain myself on the guitar.

Sometimes I write wee poems.

etc., etc.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 11:41:38
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 21 2008, 11:32 AM) [snapback]422975[/snapback]
you've basically called him a compulsive liar who is ruining the club you like, do you like a lot of people like that?

Have I?

I voluntarily counsel youngsters with addictive problems PT-many-indeed most of them have learned the art of compulsive lying-it goes with the problem.

As a bunch, I find them no different from society as a whole-except that they appear to have vulnerable personalities more often than not.

One or two have proved to be little sh*ts, but I'm fond of the majority.


Having said that, if their addictive behaviour was hurting me, I might feel very differently.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 12:00:05
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 21 2008, 11:46 AM) [snapback]422983[/snapback]
How's this one?

There was an old man called MJ,
Who was grumpy, obnoxious, and gay,
He'd get Ton fans mad,
But he was just glad,
To post here all night and all day.

Boom boom. smile.gif

Mundane and unimaginitive-scans poorly-4/10-you must try harder.

A celibate sicko from Ghent
Prayed hard for a willie unbent
Poor misguided sod
There isn't a 'God'
And instead of him coming, he went.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 12:04:40
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 21 2008, 12:02 PM) [snapback]422992[/snapback]
You mean his ramblings have resulted in you throwing your old computer out the window allowing for the purchase of a shiny new one? wink.gif

Shouldn't you be busy with your studies young man?
mortonjag 2008-03-21 12:07:50
QUOTE(Ar1tch1e @ Mar 21 2008, 12:01 PM) [snapback]422991[/snapback]
That should keep us up

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mortonjag 2008-03-21 12:14:51
QUOTE(El gofer @ Mar 21 2008, 11:48 AM) [snapback]422984[/snapback]
I must hear the songs!!! Are they quaint madrigals, or quirky little rolf harris numbers or just plain thrash metal??

They are horrific-gofer-truly horrific-the lyrics are fine and the choons are fine-I just can't sing!
mortonjag 2008-03-21 12:25:38
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Mar 21 2008, 12:23 PM) [snapback]422999[/snapback]
I wish you'd hurry up and finish it lol

Do you REALLY want me to die after all the things I've done for you.

People are SO ungrateful.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 12:29:17
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 21 2008, 12:26 PM) [snapback]423001[/snapback]
Ha ha, I don't live in Ghent. tongue.gif

Rather worryingly though, the rest of it was spot on. unsure.gif

That's the last time I PM you for medical advice MJ, so much for the Hypicritical Oath. mad.gif

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Brussels is more difficult-I started with Bruges-but I can only think of huge, and rouge-have a go if you like! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-21 12:34:17
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 21 2008, 12:27 PM) [snapback]423002[/snapback]
gotta agree with muz here. he does ruin the board. has to post on every f***ing thread.

piss off mortonjag and take newton and thom with you. you could all get in an old bath and skite down a hill into the distance a la last of the summer wine.

Ageism is not permitted on this board.

Are you aware of that?

Do you support the concept of non discrimination against minority groups?

Now f*ck off you young whippersnapper before I tan your little pink bottie to within an inch of your life.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 14:19:09
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 21 2008, 12:39 PM) [snapback]423007[/snapback]
i'm not an ageist in the slightest. i just hate boring c***s

Then stop.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 14:20:24
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 21 2008, 12:40 PM) [snapback]423008[/snapback]
1200 words towards the dissertation written today. All I need, going out in Glasgow tonight so don't want to overdo it wink.gif

Why is it called a dissertation and not a dissertion?
mortonjag 2008-03-21 14:29:00
QUOTE(capitanus @ Mar 20 2008, 09:31 PM) [snapback]422753[/snapback]
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After thousands upon thousands of monotonous postings by NewTon, he has finally made me laugh.

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newt is a funny man.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 14:33:38
QUOTE(BriTONS @ Mar 21 2008, 01:15 PM) [snapback]423015[/snapback]
Something we would all love to do!

Fraid not-some folk just don't 'dig' motors. I takes all kinds.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 14:34:52
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 21 2008, 01:11 PM) [snapback]423013[/snapback]
God rest her soul. Thanks for that trip down memory lane MJ.

Is she deid?
mortonjag 2008-03-21 14:39:17
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 21 2008, 02:07 PM) [snapback]423029[/snapback]
I think you are missing the point - if they continue to play their games, their net assets, assuming they have any, will decrease further. If they are paying out wages and police costs, ground hire etc, and their income from crowds of a few hundred is less than their outgoings, they are trading insolvently. Also, the longer this goes on, the higher are the administrator's fees (and they always get first call on any assets). I can see why the administrators want to keep going as their meter is running all the time, but it is not in the interests of the creditors to continue after Sunday.

Liquidation (I think) means they stop trading and close down. If there are any assets, they are divvied up. If there are fewer assets, we get less. Ergo, the sooner they stop, the better (except for the administrators).

Is this current action by the SPL going to put one more penny in the creditors' pockets. If not, they should be wound up now. No sane person is going to take them over as a going concern.

Greed, graft, and Gretna FC.

RIP
mortonjag 2008-03-21 14:41:14
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Mar 21 2008, 02:37 PM) [snapback]423040[/snapback]
No wonder she was struggling to breath in those f***ers! I think anyone would!

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Most folk breathe through the nose/mouth! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-21 14:47:46
QUOTE(Sammario @ Mar 21 2008, 02:44 PM) [snapback]423044[/snapback]
Nae offence to Alibi who has more than a vested interest so his standpoint is natural but I dont like the fact so many want Gretna to go to the wall. I sincerely hope a buyer does come forward, even if they drop to the third division. I don't want to see any team go out of business.

Taking any joy from Gretna's situation is in very poor taste IMO.

It's natural to feel sorry for the handful of bumpkins who preceded Mileson. It's equally natural IMO to want the arses of the rest reamed to f*ck.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 14:49:51
QUOTE(GreatKingRat @ Mar 21 2008, 02:46 PM) [snapback]423046[/snapback]
You can't control it, baby, all the women are wild for me.

Choking to death she 'whipped' those things off. She must be some performer when fully fit!
mortonjag 2008-03-21 14:57:34
QUOTE(GreatKingRat @ Mar 21 2008, 02:52 PM) [snapback]423050[/snapback]
She wore those pants, couldn't breathe and then whipped then off?

Sounds more like erotic asphyxiation gone wrong than anything else.

Stephen Milligan rides again!
mortonjag 2008-03-21 14:59:19
QUOTE(BriTONS @ Mar 21 2008, 02:55 PM) [snapback]423052[/snapback]
ok maybe not all off us but getting paid good money to drive cars about and muck around seems great.

Indeed, but some folk miss the point that those guys are very skilled.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 15:14:00
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 21 2008, 03:07 PM) [snapback]423057[/snapback]
Not if by being in administration they are making matters worse. Say at the moment their assets (the ground possibly) are enough to pay creditors 10p in the £. By the end of the season that could be 1p in the £. They could (probably will) be liquidated at the end of the season, so why not just cut their losses and do it now? Not that that would suit the SPL of course but that shouldn't be a factor.

Precisely.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 18:09:21
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 21 2008, 04:06 PM) [snapback]423067[/snapback]
She sadly is I'm afraid. sad.gif

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Hilary White from Petts Wood Orpington Kent with the yellow bikini is really dead Spurtle. Are you sure?
mortonjag 2008-03-21 18:18:10
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Mar 21 2008, 04:06 PM) [snapback]423066[/snapback]
I think the board would be a poorer place without the jag. We've not always seen eye to eye, and God knows there's times when I think he must be the most stubborn man in the entire universe, then I remember who's just about to type a response and tell him he's wrong !!!!

Nope, love him or loathe him, the board would be a duller place without him. BTW, putting him on ignore makes things worse, cos then you secretly peek to see what he's written anyway - I tried ignore for less than one day, despite telling him otherwise - cos some of his posts are comic gold and some of them are just common sense, and some are just inflamatory and thought provoking andsome of them are complete gawk - whats not to like. Like every other person on the board, not every single post of his has me making a mess of my knickers, but so what. I'm sure only 75% of mine make you all cream yourself laugh.gif laugh.gif

BTW MJ, went to the quack (see threads passim) and he feels not a lot to worry about - huge weight off my mind ! Need a PSA test whatever the feck that is - more worryingly was his request to go for a colonscopy because of my mother (not because of me) - although he assures me its purely proactive thing to do. And by the way, a finger up the hole is torture, despite the fact he assured me everything was in good shape. Easy for him to say when he's just established base camp in my farter - athough it was his push for the summit which took the wax out of my ears. Seems to think the fact I was drinking about two litres of diet juice was a big part of the problem - I thought it was helping me - he tells me that it's the fastest route to Diabetes - which made no sense cos I thought they had no sugars in them - go figure.

Anyway, last four days been on flavoured water only - guess what - only one pish stop one night !!

See, just like MJ, I managed to flip from TTG MJ to night time pish stops seamlessly.

TTG TID - what a cúnt !

TonInDublin

Well done! I don't know about the diet drinks and diabetes either but I'm out of date. PSA-a blood test to measure the level of prostate specific antigen. It's not a great help in isolation but once he's established your baseline value, any significant future rise could be a warning of early prostate problems.

A yardstick, if you will, like Spurtle's dick.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 18:21:02
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Mar 21 2008, 04:18 PM) [snapback]423070[/snapback]
TBH No Id not wish that on anyone (Well Maybe Hu** Sc***) but I am curious to what you have done for me lol

Encouraged you to widen the circle of your friends rather than concentrate on Mr Raes! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-21 18:23:27
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 21 2008, 04:47 PM) [snapback]423083[/snapback]
I had to endure that once in France for no particular reason. It was just a routine check-up for a life insurance policy so I was expecting the usual urine sample, blood pressure and reflexes malarkey. But before I knew it I was lying on my side in the faetal position wondering if I was going to be on the next epsode of 'You've Been Framed'.

What made it slightly less unpleasant was the fact our doctor was female and not unattractive. However she also lived in the same village and her daughter was in the same school class as my daughter.

Try indulging in polite chit-chat at the school gates with someone who just a couple of hours earlier had their finger up your poop shute. If you've never experienced that, and I don't suppose many of you have, then let me tell you it's most disconcerting.

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You SURE that was a finger and a female?
mortonjag 2008-03-21 18:24:57
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 21 2008, 05:46 PM) [snapback]423098[/snapback]
I can also let you have my recipe for five minute fairy cakes, if you like fairy cakes or baking.
Perhaps he likes 5 minute fairies ?

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More of a seven dwarves man I'd say Newt.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 18:39:21
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 21 2008, 04:20 PM) [snapback]423071[/snapback]
In theory it might as

1) If the administrator can secure a sale of the club which realises extra money, they might. Unlikely, I agree.

2) The administrator cannot act in way which is prejudicial to creditors and so if Alibi really wants to force the issue he could consider an application to court asserting that in using the SPL money to fund ongoing costs and wages, he is denying creditors the benefit of those funds. For that to stick , it would have to be established that the TV money etc., would be due to Gretna whether they complete their fixtures or not. I suspect they would probably be in breach of contract and the SPL could withhold payment on that basis



The administrator obviously has a difficult task trying to 'keep everybody happy'. I wouldn't suggest for a minute that he would dream of deliberately acting unprofessionally, but there are ways and means of exerting unfair pressure on people of integrity, and the SPL is a powerful lobby.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 18:50:20
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 21 2008, 05:28 PM) [snapback]423094[/snapback]
I suspect that you are Douglas Rae's arch nemesis. Differing points of view yet so alike. Just as Dougie does is good at it, you are a master at ignoring the crux of people's posts and instead deflecting attention on to small, trivial points. As for comparing me to an estate agent, well that is somewhat beneath my years of study and a ratherpathetic attempt at an insult.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH-touchy tonight-aren't we-go get a wee drink-then READ what I wrote over again-NICE AND SLOWLY.

You'll also find a wee clue in a comment made to DE! wink.gif

I'm used to my profession being slagged off on this board indiscriminately Ratarse, and I wouldn't do that to you.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 19:05:50
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Mar 21 2008, 06:58 PM) [snapback]423133[/snapback]
Colkitto - that actually made me laugh out loud. Please desist from being humorous and likeable instantly sir.

MJ - you really DID walk into that one.

TonInDublin

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Bannock baws has indeed a sense of humour when apolitical.

The said Hilary White had ambitions to become an actress (hence my being dragged to the cinema).

Many, many years later, I discovered purely by chance that she was personal secretary to an eminent London Forensic Pathologist.

Then again-all the world's a stage-I'm sure somebody famous said that quite recently! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-21 19:08:36
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 21 2008, 07:03 PM) [snapback]423135[/snapback]
And I'm not allowed meat cos she won't let me,

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Gidday TID and Teacher Tom,

So, is it down from 52 Fridays per annum to just one ?

IMHO, an amazing superstition.

The locals of Mediterranean extraction buy tonnes of seafood this weekend.

They tell me that it is something to do with the moon being full.

My grandfather told me in 1963 that it was a commercial deal done between some bloke in Rome and Macfisheries.

The deal must have fallen through in later years, as I couldn't find Macfisheries in 2006.

They were near West Blackhall Street ??

That was where my Auntie Kate and Auntie Jenny became friends, though my Auntie Kate wasn't really my Auntie.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 19:11:41
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Mar 21 2008, 06:29 PM) [snapback]423119[/snapback]
Cheers MJ - yeah he reckoned that given I'm only 41, then the chances of anything other than drinking habits at night time and the large consumption of what he termed "complete s***e soft drinks" is absolutely minimal. Confirmed that to a large extent by lodging his ring finger up my bakie, pressing and testing the stomach/abdomen and generally rummaging around where my breakfast was meant to exit. He seemed happy enough.

Which was more than could be said for me. I felt violated.

His take on the diet/low cal drinks was that although they are "sugar free" they are loaded with all manner of other s***e which is equally bad for you - indeed he was saying some of them interchange the word "sugar" with "sucrose" - but they may be loaded with fructose/glucose etc. More importantly he reckoned the artificial sweeteners/preservatives/flavourings etc are of no use to man nor beast, especailly when I'm doing about 14-20 litres of it a week. So flavoured water it is then ! Glad I went though. No idea what a colonoscopy is and I'm pretty f***ing certain I don't want to ! Cheers again.

TonInDublin

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mortonjag 2008-03-21 19:17:26
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 21 2008, 07:13 PM) [snapback]423142[/snapback]
OK, mortonjag, we want the truth.

Did Auntie Kate do a Hilary White and take you to the Gaumont to lead you astray in the back stalls.

Or was it at the Odean ?

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Nothing so grand I'm afraid though she knew all about pelvic floor mussels and her fish cakes were beautifully formed - and firm with it.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 19:20:44
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 21 2008, 06:20 PM) [snapback]423112[/snapback]
Actress Winona Ryder has once again been caught leaving a store with goods she hadn't paid for, according to a report.

The 36-year-old star left a Hollywood store with a bag of make-up that she had bought, but set off a security alarm on the way out, the National Enquirer reported.

But when a security guard at the Hollywood CVC Pharmacy checked her bag, he reportedly found other make-up items she had not paid for.

"I don't know how that happened" Ryder reportedly said.

The magazine quoted a store employee, who said Ryder gave the unpaid-for items back before leaving the store.

Ryder was caught stealing $6000 of clothes from a boutique in Beverly Hills six years ago and was sentenced to 480 hours of community services.

She claimed at the time she was preparing for a film role

She needs your help, mate.



I wonna rider-tonight's bananasgram
mortonjag 2008-03-21 19:25:19
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 21 2008, 07:08 PM) [snapback]423138[/snapback]
I don't know this man and can make no comment against him. With regard to your comment in general though, you've obviously never been in the insolvency profession, especially in England. Having work both North and South of the border, though, the Scottish profession is a lot cleaner than South of the border.

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There are naughty boys in every profession then?
mortonjag 2008-03-21 19:45:44
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Mar 21 2008, 07:36 PM) [snapback]423154[/snapback]
Yeah I won't miss it Iain - short term pain and all that. In fairness to him the only reason he wants me to get one is because my mother died of cancer. She had cancer in her liver/bowel/stomach and pretty much went through the rest of her body, God rest her. However, she was smoking between 40-60 a day since she was14 till she died aged 64. My dad died at 80 of pneumonia, with his body weakened by shingles - and the doc said he had the heart and lungs of an ox. He was also a very heavy smoker - 40 capstain full strength (throwback to his navy days) - and he wanted them stronger so he "cured" them at the fire before smoking them !

I've had lots of bad habits, but fortunatley I've never smoked - I bought ten regal king size on my first night out drinking with the lads - I was seventeen. Smoked all ten in about forty five minutes then spent the rest of the night cradling the toilet bowl. Ill for days ! Never forget they were 50p for ten. Best 50p I ever spent. Didn't touch them since - not even the wacky variety - the thought of smoking makes me puke.

Anyhoos - after his finger the thought of a wee mechanical beastie is nearly sexually arousing in comparison !

Don't know if I mentioned or not about my doctor, but he studied in Glasgow for a long period of time, and his team of choice was Partick Thistle, although he had another mate who was a Clyde fanatic so he spent part of the season at Shawfield as well. Reckons that following Morton is a worse disease than anything he could diagnose ! Cheeky cnut ! Actually, he's a sound lad.

TonInDublin

For some the word 'nearly' may be omitted TiD.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 19:52:39
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 21 2008, 07:23 PM) [snapback]423150[/snapback]
Did she take you back to her plaice ?

Indeed she often did-ground right, 24 Trafalgar St., if I recall correctly, where we'd dine upon tablet while Joey recited 'A Gordon for Me', and then she'd tuck me up cosily before sending me off to join the fairies with a tap of her magic rubber hammer.

She frequently lost her keys too.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 19:57:31
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Mar 21 2008, 07:47 PM) [snapback]423162[/snapback]
This is my old car. This car means a lot to me as it was the last car my Dad had, I inherited it from him when he passed away in 1998.

If you click on it it comes up real good.

The tax disc is out of date.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 19:59:24
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Mar 21 2008, 07:51 PM) [snapback]423164[/snapback]
this is another of my old cars, this time waiting to go on the Gourock - Dunoon ferry

I like the Ton scarf.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 20:08:01
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 21 2008, 07:57 PM) [snapback]423168[/snapback]
She frequently lost her keys too.

Whit ?

to her chasity belt ?

We've all heard that old excuse over the years.

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No no-the door keys-she was extremely absent minded. She had a list stuck to the inside of her door-something like...

Gas off

Cover on Joey's cage

Lights off

Spyhole to McClumphas closed

Shopping bag

etc

and always the last item in big bold letters was


REMEMBER KEYS..


....and she'd still forget them and handsome Mr McClumpha from next door would have to shoulder in her door again.

She always took him in for a cup of tea after that.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 20:57:40
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 21 2008, 08:08 PM) [snapback]423174[/snapback]
Yeah I won't miss it Iain - short term pain and all that. In fairness to him the only reason he wants me to get one is because my mother died of cancer.
Therefore, TiD, to cover his arse he has to uncover yours.

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Correct Newt-prevention is better than cure, and that's assuming cure will be possible!
mortonjag 2008-03-21 21:05:51
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Mar 21 2008, 08:18 PM) [snapback]423175[/snapback]
here's another of my old cars , this is outside the marine bar..this was my first car''The Blue Bomber''

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mortonjag 2008-03-21 21:11:47
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Mar 21 2008, 08:22 PM) [snapback]423176[/snapback]
This is outside Marks n Spencer in Greenock Town Centre in 1975. I'm the one my Dad is holding. Do you think I turned out to be as handsoe as my Dad ?
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDDoes this happen to ALL generations?
mortonjag 2008-03-21 21:16:49
QUOTE(Marc @ Mar 21 2008, 08:31 PM) [snapback]423178[/snapback]
A few days ago I was having some work done at my local garage. A blonde came in and asked for a seven-hundred-ten.
We all looked at each other and another customer asked, 'What is a seven-hundred-ten?'
She replied, 'You know, the little piece in the middle of the engine, I have lost it and need a new one..' She went on to say that she did not know exactly what it was, but this piece had always been there.
The mechanic gave her a piece of paper and a pen and asked her to draw what the piece looked like. She drew a circle and in the middle of it wrote 710. He then took her over to another car which had its hood up and asked 'Is there a 710 on this car?'
She pointed and said, 'Of course, its right there.'

If you're not sure what a 710 is Click Here
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Superb!

The real ones are always the funniest!
mortonjag 2008-03-21 21:21:12
QUOTE(Marc @ Mar 21 2008, 09:18 PM) [snapback]423199[/snapback]
It's not real laugh.gif I stole it from elsewhere rolleyes.gif

Still find it funny though

Well I kinda guessed that but it's BOUND to have happened! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-21 21:23:49
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 21 2008, 09:14 PM) [snapback]423195[/snapback]
Always nice to get one over on the Doc laugh.gif

....and this sexually deprived gentleman is eternally grateful for those infrequent scraps of consolation.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 21:27:56
QUOTE(McInally`s Monkey @ Mar 21 2008, 09:00 PM) [snapback]423185[/snapback]
Well tell us then

Is he deid?
mortonjag 2008-03-21 21:29:54
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Mar 21 2008, 08:58 PM) [snapback]423182[/snapback]
In the Daily Record today he has written his usual piece about Morton as he normally does only this time he has spouted some pish about Davie Irons not getting the team to do their 5 minute pre-second half warm up anymore after last weeks game.

He is quoted as saying "It may be Okay for a wee diddy side like Gretna, Davie, but it had everyone who supports Morton pulling their hair out"

Message to Mr Cochrane, the font of all Morton knowledge far and wide ............. I am one of those who follow Morton and I for one see this five minute warm up as one of the many positive things Davie and Derek are trying to impart on the team. Along with the honest and up front tactics Davie has shown sice coming to Morton, he gets my vote and I know many others see this as a positive from the new management. So in future pal when you have to write your drivel in the rag then please check with "everyone who supports Morton" before you choose to question them.

Mr McArthur will be along shortly, you Mancunian troublemaker. He'll sort you out for criticising him his 'friend'!
mortonjag 2008-03-21 21:48:54
QUOTE(Marc @ Mar 21 2008, 09:23 PM) [snapback]423202[/snapback]
Yeah, I'd imagine it has happened tongue.gif rolleyes.gif

Blonde at swimming lessons.

'I'm doing well'.

Instructor----puzzled---

'Why do you say that'?

Blonde----


'The last chap said I'd sink if he took his finger out'.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 21:51:34
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 21 2008, 09:42 PM) [snapback]423210[/snapback]
Don't try and play pedant games with me. wink.gif At least until you can get your wee were/where problem sorted out! tongue.gif

They are two players who've never played in the first division, that answers it enough for now... nothing to get excited about anyway!



QUOTE(Marc @ Mar 21 2008, 09:46 PM) [snapback]423211[/snapback]
Yes sir, I won't be late for my next lesson.

CHILDREN


Pink bottie time again!
mortonjag 2008-03-21 21:54:07
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 21 2008, 09:30 PM) [snapback]423208[/snapback]
He was killed by the Wemyss Bay mafia on a drive-through of Inverkip, and all you can do is f***ing joke about it. mad.gif

Shame on you.

Oh, and you'll never know McInally's Monkey as a result of mortonjag's insensitivity.

The Monkey's thoughts are with the family.


Frankly I don't give a f*ck.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 21:58:31
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Mar 21 2008, 09:48 PM) [snapback]423212[/snapback]
TV

Any Thought on this TV ? Is it worth the money ?

The speakers in the TV are crap so I also plan to buy myself a Home Cinema System to go with it

Scott, do you really imagine anybody who spent that kind of money on a 'box' is going to admit it's pure crap?


I merely pose the question!
mortonjag 2008-03-21 22:07:49
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Mar 21 2008, 09:53 PM) [snapback]423218[/snapback]
It's a Vauxhall Astra formerly known as Opel Kadett.

Sadly I no longer have the photo of me standing on its roof with a Ton Scarf outside the turnstiles at Cappielow the day I bought it when I was 17.

Anyway, goodnight Mortonjag darling x

Diddums-are you absolutely CERTAIN about that-it may just be the angle of the 'foties', but I need to be convinced, and incidentally the Astra was marketed in Britain simultaneously with GM's European Kadett, a limited number of which were sold in Britain as 'upmarket' models.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 22:10:14
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 21 2008, 10:03 PM) [snapback]423223[/snapback]
I taught him.

Be fair young man-the hairy one got in first.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 22:11:24
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 21 2008, 09:59 PM) [snapback]423221[/snapback]
Gees a tenner.
I survived.

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mortonjag 2008-03-21 22:13:02 Oh-f*** THIS


Let princess take it!
mortonjag 2008-03-21 22:19:13
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 21 2008, 10:17 PM) [snapback]423233[/snapback]
Naw, I'll take it.

How often have you scored young man?
mortonjag 2008-03-21 22:20:58
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 21 2008, 10:15 PM) [snapback]423231[/snapback]
Whit?

Is it REALLY you-the Monkey is heavily impressed by your fortitude!
mortonjag 2008-03-21 22:24:10
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 21 2008, 10:21 PM) [snapback]423238[/snapback]
Another one - sunset off Wemyss Bay

Bloody hell Sir-do you reside anywhere near Cliff Terrace Road?
mortonjag 2008-03-21 22:27:10
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Mar 21 2008, 10:01 PM) [snapback]423222[/snapback]
Gee Thanks Very Much

You're very welcome and welcome to be my friend too!
mortonjag 2008-03-21 22:34:00
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Mar 21 2008, 10:17 PM) [snapback]423234[/snapback]
Jesus MJ you're a ray of sunshine ! Now I think of it, it's TTG !

To re-iterate - I am not on my way out - nor am I sick. My prostate (based on him playing me like a glove puppet) is in good shape. All well up the chocolate speedway and no symptoms to suggest otherwise.

The colonoscopy (according to him) is a standard check in Ireland for anyone who has history of cancer in their family, but he did stress that given the lack of cancer in my father and the fact my mum smoked like a bloody beagle meant there is little or nowt to worry about.

And I'm not pishing like a horse any more. Well I am, but during daylight hours. The old John Thomas doesn't know what's happened to it - it's nearly got a suntan these last few days.

TonInDublin

My dear friend, I think this Irish charlatan is takin' you for a ride. Forget the tests-as my dearly departed Auntie Jessie (who fell under the wheels of a hearse at the tender age of five and a half) used to say----

'Whit's fur ye'll no go bye ye'!
mortonjag 2008-03-21 22:38:23
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 21 2008, 10:36 PM) [snapback]423251[/snapback]
My advice is don't bother with the new technology, in fact I reckon you're better off chucking the old crt set out the fecking window before you start. There's so much cack on the four cooncil channels never mind the umpteen choices of shoite you get with murdoch, branson or fecking whatever. There are alternatives you know, like music, reading, masturbation or, when all else fails, you can maybe try talking about something to someone.

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mortonjag 2008-03-21 22:42:15
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Mar 21 2008, 10:27 PM) [snapback]423244[/snapback]
i always felt every time they were only allowed a quarter segment of orange and sent out to stand about for 5 mins we got caught cold. I remember a couple o games the opposition scoring within 5 mins of the break due to our teams being over ready or bored stupid? for the second half, but scoring against us at scappa seems to be an 90 minute thing this year. At least a half time bollocking seemed to work last week so maybe if an under fire gaffer sends them out early in dribs and drabs its a sure fire way to dodge the boos and keep him sweet with the powers that be.

I can't help feeling that's very profound, and I haven't a clue why.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 22:44:06
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 21 2008, 10:41 PM) [snapback]423255[/snapback]
The beauty of living on the continent is that you're not restricted to UK Cooncil channels. Here you can watch pish from many different countries.

Hey-f*ck off you-I'm in love!
mortonjag 2008-03-21 22:47:00
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 21 2008, 10:35 PM) [snapback]423250[/snapback]
TTG everyc***.

Universal suicide pact-eh deego-can I have a wee think first?
mortonjag 2008-03-21 22:53:35
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 21 2008, 10:24 PM) [snapback]423240[/snapback]
I think so.

s***ebag!
mortonjag 2008-03-21 22:54:54
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 21 2008, 10:28 PM) [snapback]423245[/snapback]
Naw, it was me.

It was the Dong!
mortonjag 2008-03-21 22:57:37
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 21 2008, 10:25 PM) [snapback]423241[/snapback]
Haven't missed one, put it that way.

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Take your time son. What you do in haste you may regret at leisure!
mortonjag 2008-03-21 22:58:48
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 21 2008, 10:57 PM) [snapback]423268[/snapback]
Fud! smile.gif

Jobby
mortonjag 2008-03-21 23:00:48
QUOTE(piehutt @ Mar 21 2008, 10:56 PM) [snapback]423267[/snapback]
I'm sorry, but I really can't believe there are still people buying the Daily Retard!

Don't even take the free one's at the station.

Piehole-I find myself in rare agreement!
mortonjag 2008-03-21 23:03:33
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 21 2008, 11:00 PM) [snapback]423271[/snapback]
pish.

C'mon man-don't let the side down-we must maintain a minimal standard.


May I suggest keechenfahrt?
mortonjag 2008-03-21 23:06:21
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 21 2008, 10:46 PM) [snapback]423260[/snapback]
With yourself? Someone famous once said that it could be the beginning of a lifelong romance.

La folie a deux?
mortonjag 2008-03-21 23:07:27
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 21 2008, 10:50 PM) [snapback]423263[/snapback]
No I won't do that. That would put you out of your misery, too cruel a punishment for a Morrissey fan like yourself.

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mortonjag 2008-03-21 23:08:57
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 21 2008, 11:06 PM) [snapback]423281[/snapback]
Ach David, unlike yourself I'm a man of simple pleasures.

It doesn't make me a bad person. smile.gif

You are an evil c*nt.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 23:12:24
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Mar 21 2008, 11:03 PM) [snapback]423275[/snapback]
Please elaborate before I throw myself under the self same fecking hearse !

TonInDublin

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Don't be morose TiD-as Shoogly would say-'Life is life-na na na na na- and Shoogly KNOWS!
mortonjag 2008-03-21 23:23:32
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Mar 21 2008, 11:10 PM) [snapback]423286[/snapback]
Agreed partner. Hence my need to highlight the shortcomings of the Salmon and all of his ilk who feel free to trade our heritage for a few jobs or a few dollars. What's left when our freedom's been sold ?

TonInDublin

Claymore c*** irretrievably rammed up Bawheid's arse!
mortonjag 2008-03-21 23:26:33
QUOTE(capitanus @ Mar 21 2008, 11:22 PM) [snapback]423295[/snapback]
Piehutt must think he is superior to you because he doesnt buy one. But you know that isnt the case because his life isnt enrichened by Joan Burnie. wink.gif

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The mind boggles!
mortonjag 2008-03-21 23:28:53
QUOTE(capitanus @ Mar 21 2008, 11:05 PM) [snapback]423278[/snapback]
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Was that when the Provvy Man lived there instead of a bunch of Amrits sub-letting to all the Roma that Bucharest didnt want?



QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Mar 21 2008, 11:13 PM) [snapback]423289[/snapback]
The big difference being that the Amrits and the Roma charge lower interest than the Provvy man ever did !

TonInDublin

Gentlemen-it was actually before both!
mortonjag 2008-03-21 23:36:57
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Mar 21 2008, 11:18 PM) [snapback]423293[/snapback]
Although at €60 a visit, €80 next visit for blood test and the visit and >€350 for the wee machine up the bahookie I'm beginning to understand why most irish men have something wrong with their arses - seems they're being rode by the health service. Wouldn't mind but I still pay ~8% PRSI (National Health) - f*** knows why ! Prescription drugs are cost price - a course of antibiotics roughly €40. Gotta love it.

TonInDublin

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Sorry TiD, but,

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Maybe if you and Santa can put your heads together you can sort out the mess!


Radix malorum cupiditas est.


Not least when politicians get involved!
mortonjag 2008-03-21 23:44:58
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 21 2008, 11:37 PM) [snapback]423313[/snapback]
just get wrecked tid.

alcohol - the cause of and the solution to all life's problems wink.gif

For the alcoholic!
mortonjag 2008-03-21 23:50:17
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Mar 21 2008, 11:46 PM) [snapback]423325[/snapback]
I sure hope that's what it is MJ !

For anyone else not au fait with the Latin, it roughly translates (I hope) to "greed is the root of all evil" or as I suspect MJ more succinctly means here "the love of money is the root of all evil".

Although if my Latin has started to go it'll be another €60 to find out why.

MJ's proposal quot erat demonstrandum I believe.

TonInDublin

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That's about the size of it TiD!

Mind you, I've always felt undertakers were a dead cert in the money stakes.
mortonjag 2008-03-21 23:52:05
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 21 2008, 11:47 PM) [snapback]423326[/snapback]
and is if by magic that c*** appears. stop following me. please.

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mortonjag 2008-03-21 23:59:09
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Mar 21 2008, 11:52 PM) [snapback]423332[/snapback]
Ah f*** it, I'll play for a while.

Easy listening entry - meant a lot to me a few weeks ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKxnJ5iyC-w

TonInDublin

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mortonjag 2008-03-22 10:14:32
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 22 2008, 12:54 AM) [snapback]423401[/snapback]
that was the best joke i heard in 1997.

You had a superb sense of humour for a two year old.
mortonjag 2008-03-22 10:18:50
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 22 2008, 10:11 AM) [snapback]423531[/snapback]
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EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDSurely you meant 'catheter bag'.
mortonjag 2008-03-22 10:22:01
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 22 2008, 05:10 AM) [snapback]423500[/snapback]
A 79-year-old Polish man has been arrested for using a catapult to damage more than a dozen cars parked in front of his apartment block, judicial authorities said.

The man, who lives in the central Polish city of Kalisz, shot at the vehicles for more than a year until investigators were called in, said Janusz Walczak, a spokesman for the local prosecutor's office.

Walczak did not identify the man by name.

The elderly shooter reportedly told investigators that he had opted for the weapon long favoured by cheeky youngsters because he had been sick of the noise and pollution caused by the comings and goings of the cars.

His one-man campaign was brought to a halt after he was caught red-handed shooting at an Audi 80 and a Fiat Punto, thanks to a security camera installed by fellow residents.

Police who searched his home found two catapults and a bag of stones.

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Kalashnikov is my favoured weapon and I've never been caught.
mortonjag 2008-03-22 10:23:20
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 21 2008, 11:06 PM) [snapback]423281[/snapback]
Ach David, unlike yourself I'm a man of simple pleasures.

It doesn't make me a bad person. smile.gif

That's genetic.
mortonjag 2008-03-22 10:31:41
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Mar 22 2008, 06:35 AM) [snapback]423507[/snapback]
Ha Ha, looking forward to it.

Maybe Cochrane, Mr McArthur or Mr McArthur's mate would much rather we go back to McInally's playground attempts to allow players to exercise their right to play "hit the cross bar" during the warm ups?

I gave Mr Cochrane the board name of plankton, but he hasn't registered yet I see.
mortonjag 2008-03-22 10:35:42
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Mar 22 2008, 07:13 AM) [snapback]423516[/snapback]
Good day to you too NewTon,

I still have the Killie match recorded on Sky+ Best invention yet that thing I tell ya.

Jeezo I hate these early mornings, I am only up 'cos the little 'un (7 month old Daughter) decided she wanted to wake at 3.30am and stay awake for the last few hours. She has now gone off to sleep and I am wide awake - happy days.

Mybe JM had a 'little 'un who kept him awake all night-hence the lethargy.

Mind you 3+ years?
mortonjag 2008-03-22 10:44:15
QUOTE(BlueTube @ Mar 22 2008, 10:11 AM) [snapback]423530[/snapback]
2-1 Ton. McGuffie and Spoonsy. Wake comes on and knocks out a ballboy with a wayward drive at goal. Cappie finds his tail in one of the hot dogs and has a fight with the girl at the till as she wants full money for the hot dog before he gets his tail back. It's a terrible cat fight.
The mobile shop takes flight in the wind and ends up on a glacier in Greenland. The natives see the wooly hats and scarfs and think it's a miracle.

And dine on cold dogs for ever and ever.
mortonjag 2008-03-23 08:41:18
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Mar 22 2008, 10:40 AM) [snapback]423542[/snapback]
Moronjag

Looks more like a dick in a polo neck.
mortonjag 2008-03-23 08:43:37
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 22 2008, 12:02 PM) [snapback]423590[/snapback]
sad.gif i can't tell when people are being sarcastic anymore.

...and it hurts.
mortonjag 2008-03-23 08:44:39
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Mar 22 2008, 12:54 PM) [snapback]423604[/snapback]
Would you like a straw, sir?

Whose arse is it up at the moment?
mortonjag 2008-03-23 08:46:34
QUOTE(capitanus @ Mar 22 2008, 02:52 PM) [snapback]423640[/snapback]
Does anyone else find it Ironic that NewTon is trying to portray MortonJag as some kind of crackpot?

Excellent crackshot caputupanus.
mortonjag 2008-03-23 08:49:58
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Mar 22 2008, 05:16 PM) [snapback]423711[/snapback]
That's the abstaining from meat bit.
Y' know. meat is murder but fish is only culpable homicide. wink.gif

There's a decent take on Fast and abstinence Her.

What about fish roe?
mortonjag 2008-03-23 08:54:14
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 22 2008, 05:47 PM) [snapback]423726[/snapback]
Indeed I do - a couple of minutes walk away!

AHA-my armchair Ton fan brother is one of your neighbours! He's a dick, though, nothing like me at all.
mortonjag 2008-03-23 08:58:12
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Mar 22 2008, 07:20 PM) [snapback]423854[/snapback]
Absolutely, you think I dont know the make and model of my first car ?

It's a Vauxhall Astra, it was the year it became an Astra as it was previously known as an Opel Kadett.

It was a 1.2S. the S stood for ''Standard'' , but I always led may mates to believe it meant ''Sports''

I do recognise it now-they were around in the seventies. It may have been known as the 'Kadett' in Europe, but was ALWAYS the 'Astra' here, though, some 'up market' Kaddets were sold in Britain.

The Astra GTE of the early eighties was the closest anybody got to matching the VW Golf Gti in the early 'hot hatch' stakes.
mortonjag 2008-03-23 09:05:32
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 22 2008, 11:36 AM) [snapback]423574[/snapback]
I hope that you are not a resident nor citizen of the United States

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Chocolat camouflage.
mortonjag 2008-03-23 09:06:17
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 22 2008, 11:38 AM) [snapback]423577[/snapback]
I'm not miserable my friend and in fact had quite a bloody good grin on my face to be honest when I read it but just think there is a time and a place like down the pub not on a public forum. wink.gif
not on a public forum
Wot about in a public bar ?

a public convenience ?

a public conveyance ?

A pubic convention.
mortonjag 2008-03-23 09:08:08
QUOTE(capitanus @ Mar 22 2008, 02:47 PM) [snapback]423637[/snapback]
Ach, get over yourself ManchesterTon. It was a wee light hearted wisecrack that most of us thought was funny.

Little Fanny becomes Mensa member.



For all budding anatomists you cannot type va g i n a

That is CRASS in the extreme.
mortonjag 2008-03-23 09:18:21
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Mar 22 2008, 11:56 AM) [snapback]423582[/snapback]
While trawling these boards for a couple of hours since early hours this morning, I have stumbled upon a two occasions MJ where you have made reference to spanking bottoms .............

Is there something you feel the need to share with us my friend? wink.gif

I'm a firm believer in the spanking of little pink botties MT-I had my little pink bottie spanked a few times-it wasn't very pleasant-but my Mummy and Daddy thought it was good for me.

I believe the infrequent spanking of little pink botties to be socially beneficial, and would also willingly flog neds for charity.
mortonjag 2008-03-23 09:25:47
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 22 2008, 06:28 PM) [snapback]423757[/snapback]
... is much bigger than i thought it would be. our players aren't having a bad spell - they just aint good enough to compete at this level. i'll hold my hands up and say that i thought we would finish top half maybe top 4 but there really is a significant difference between 2nd division and 1st. quicker, more rough and tumble and a much better touch required. i think the standard in the first is grim regarding any entertainment value but we've been found out.

here's hoping we stagger over the line and rebuild in the summer


Seems like it.


QUOTE(Muz @ Mar 22 2008, 06:57 PM) [snapback]423805[/snapback]
I would hope that some of the players realise that maybe a few sessions on the weights in the next few weeks might help them- Stevenson and a few others get pushed off the ball FAR too easily.

Every week I see it- probs a good example is Chris Millar, myself and my mate are always saying he uses his upper body strength well- I wish more of them did and we may see a difference. Jenkins and McGuffie are big lads and get pushed off the ball far too easily.

Thoughts?


Neither Ryan nor Alan looked like SPL players yesterday-in a game where I thought their experience could have see us comfortably over the line.


QUOTE(C B @ Mar 22 2008, 07:18 PM) [snapback]423852[/snapback]
PLEASE DON'T START GETTING OUT PICS OF WAKE WITH HIS SHIRT OFF !!!


Young Deegan won't cope!


QUOTE(C B @ Mar 22 2008, 07:38 PM) [snapback]423891[/snapback]
Yes, he loves his pies, burger king, pizza hut, McyDs, Kentucky Fried Monkey, all the good healthy eating stuff !!!

Jamie is now off the Chrissie Card list.
mortonjag 2008-03-23 09:30:48
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 22 2008, 07:49 PM) [snapback]423897[/snapback]
The defence were excellent to a man today, OK there was the odd lapse but this is the Scottish first division. It was the guys upfront that let us down today. Greacan, Harding and MacGregor dealt with pretty much everything. Apart from his one dither where he gave the ball away, even McLaughlin played well and covered a lot of ground from left back right across the front of the centre halves and put in some important tackles. Weatherson was a waste of space and it's unfortunate given his undoubted talent and ability.

That'll be your opinion, I take it Ratarse?
mortonjag 2008-03-23 09:34:59
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Mar 22 2008, 09:46 PM) [snapback]423945[/snapback]
300 quid! Is that for the season?

Annual salary for a delivery boy.
mortonjag 2008-03-23 09:52:14
QUOTE(HousTON @ Mar 22 2008, 06:27 PM) [snapback]423756[/snapback]
What are these two all about? Mcguffie contributes very little and Jenkins doen't seem to give a toss. I can't see how these two came from the spl they are shocking. I would drop Mcguffie for Keenan next week and drop Jenkins for Millar assuming he is not injured. I am really dissapointed as i had hoped both of these players could have turned our season round.


Indeed
QUOTE(Lindberg6 @ Mar 22 2008, 06:38 PM) [snapback]423776[/snapback]
McGuffie and Jenkins have been major disappontments, for two guys that were playing in the premier league....no wonder gretna were getting humped every week!



If you were one of the other players seeing these guys come into the club on long contracts and mega money I think you would be entitled to feel a little aggrieved....

....i thought Jenkins performance was a disgrace today.




Don't know what's happened, but it was Irons who LET THEM GO.



QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 22 2008, 08:11 PM) [snapback]423911[/snapback]
Jenkins was excellent in the build up to Jim's goal. Other than that he was posted missing in the game.
McGuffie for some reason just has not settled at Cappielow. I thought he showed signs of the player we thought we had when he came on against Thistle.
Today he was just simply rank rotten. And I find it amazing he played in the SPL on his performances so far.

Walker must be due a run in the centre of midfield. And Miller will walk back into the team(thankfully).


We were well on top yesterday, and could still have blown it in the last ten minutes.

Are we EVER going to sign an 'experienced' player who can influence the game positively?
mortonjag 2008-03-23 09:59:41 Jimbo is a conundrum-not a striker by a long chalk, and NEVER a winger in a million years.

I'd describe him as an energetic and thrustful workhorse.
mortonjag 2008-03-23 10:01:14
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 23 2008, 09:44 AM) [snapback]424081[/snapback]
Er yes. As opposed to who else's opinion?

Good.

Just happened to glance at today's 'Mail' and it rates Spponsy 9, Jimbo 8, and the rest mainly 7's.

...and before you reply-those ratings are normally keech-but just thought I'd mention anyway!
mortonjag 2008-03-23 11:14:22
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 23 2008, 08:46 AM) [snapback]424057[/snapback]
What did I miss?

Somebody threw a hammer at David McGregor.
mortonjag 2008-03-23 11:20:07
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 23 2008, 10:13 AM) [snapback]424090[/snapback]
I think that's the point. wink.gif

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Mortonjag NEVER wears polo necks.
mortonjag 2008-03-23 11:21:11
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Mar 23 2008, 10:58 AM) [snapback]424101[/snapback]
Jesus didn't exist.

Neither does beermonkey.
mortonjag 2008-03-23 14:08:23
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 23 2008, 10:23 AM) [snapback]424092[/snapback]
You can still text me. It costs me an arm and a leg to text back tho'

Is the cell cold?
mortonjag 2008-03-23 14:15:59
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Mar 23 2008, 01:18 PM) [snapback]424129[/snapback]
It's getting a bit more difficult for Irons to pick his team IMO, so that's an improvement at the least.

Although one of the only changes I would make is to bring Millar in for McGuffie.

McGuffie was back helping the defence-his height DID help there yesterday.
mortonjag 2008-03-23 14:23:26 Made me want to kick f*ck out of him.
mortonjag 2008-03-23 14:26:28
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 23 2008, 11:25 AM) [snapback]424108[/snapback]
Normal service resumed. cool.gif
Forza Kimi!
Massa really is a terrible driver: I expect Alonso to replace him next season.
8 tenths of a second quicker - not even James Allen's promotion of Hamilton from 6th to 5th and 5th to 4th can't hide total domination.
Barring unreliability, Kimi will walk this title.

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..but quite a wealthy young man!
mortonjag 2008-03-23 14:29:28 Many happy returns.
mortonjag 2008-03-23 14:38:10 Hmm-I thought the criticism he was taking before was way OTT, just as is this praise. He did nothing yesterday that McGurn coudn't have done-well apart from the stunningly pointless acrobatics.
mortonjag 2008-03-23 14:40:38
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 23 2008, 02:19 PM) [snapback]424167[/snapback]
it's been baltic since I got to Jersey. b*****ds told me it was sunny down here

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mortonjag 2008-03-23 14:42:02
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Mar 23 2008, 02:23 PM) [snapback]424169[/snapback]
I didn't say otherwise.

But Millar offers a lot more than he does. The only player McGuffie could shift in that team is McLaughlin.

Midge is lighter.
mortonjag 2008-03-23 14:45:26 It's a results driven business. I thought DI/DC looked like a couple of windmills on speed yesterday!
mortonjag 2008-03-23 15:13:38
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 23 2008, 02:54 PM) [snapback]424183[/snapback]
Just heard on the radio Rangers have bought all the tickets for the next away game in the UEFA cup and will give them away free to fans who are considered entitled to them from travelling abroad previously.

Will cost about £51,000 to the club but what a fantastic gesture!

Could this set a precedent for the future?

Aye the Ton could copy them in the near future.
mortonjag 2008-03-23 15:19:08
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Mar 23 2008, 03:08 PM) [snapback]424185[/snapback]
Any relation to Erica Roe?

Standing room only at the Willow!
mortonjag 2008-03-23 15:22:52
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 23 2008, 02:50 PM) [snapback]424181[/snapback]
McInally sat with his hands in his pockets, now the new guys look like "windmills on speed".

Can anyone ever win?!

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mortonjag 2008-03-23 15:25:53
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Mar 23 2008, 02:49 PM) [snapback]424179[/snapback]
Far from his best and can do better and hope he does improve but i think he is carrying an injury at the moment yesterday was a big chance for him and he showed nothing

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Our all new management team is fielding crocks knowingly?
mortonjag 2008-03-23 15:28:13
QUOTE(standman @ Mar 23 2008, 03:12 PM) [snapback]424188[/snapback]
I've been critical of Lee however yesterday was an accomplished performance.

His handling of cross balls was very secure, his distribution much improved and some great saves.

I'd have no complaints if he maintained this sort of form until the end of the season.

I'm not disputing that, but how many saves did he have to make yesterday?
mortonjag 2008-03-23 15:32:29
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 23 2008, 03:25 PM) [snapback]424194[/snapback]
Hmmm, that's a lot of anger you have there MJ.



QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 23 2008, 03:29 PM) [snapback]424197[/snapback]
At least the boy has a sense of humour , he was taking stick from the Sinclair Street when he turned round and blew us a kiss . Shut the heckler right up

Pufe in (orange) boots.
mortonjag 2008-03-23 15:35:00
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 22 2008, 07:28 PM) [snapback]423872[/snapback]
to see you, to see you f***ing nice?

-LCM to shagging neighbours laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-23 16:03:35
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 21 2008, 05:07 PM) [snapback]423086[/snapback]
The question was conveniently side stepped with JM taking the blame . Considering his decisions have got us ino this mess the guy had a serious point at how the board ( Dougie ) could have backed him up for so long .

Again Dougie split he season into four proclaiming he 1st half of the season a success ???? Should have reminded him its where we end the season that matters .
Once eams like QOTS and Dunfermline got a few results we'd be slipping down the table .

Indeed, honest Mr Rae, Greenock's answer to George Washington-remember the man who pled on bended knee with JM to stay, and described him in glowing hyperbole, as he left? The same man who DIDN'T have a go at the home fans-well only three of them.

Here's his take on Wednesday's 'forum'. (from yesterday's Shoogly Peg)

'Altogether it was a worthwhile get-together although there were a few gripes which dealt with past failings. Efforts were made by the panel to keep things positive and to look ahead rather than dwell on matters from the past which could no longer be influenced.'



'Matters from the past which could no longer be influenced indeed, Shoogly'

JM is dead-long live JM!!!
mortonjag 2008-03-23 16:12:13
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 23 2008, 03:59 PM) [snapback]424207[/snapback]
What's that got to do with anything? blink.gif

Football panto
mortonjag 2008-03-23 16:14:30
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 23 2008, 03:45 PM) [snapback]424203[/snapback]
We have taken the lead against the opposition in four of the last six games (St Johnstone, Clyde, Stirling and Livvy) and only won one of them. We just don't seem to be able to kill teams when we are on top.

I thought yesterday, Livvy looked fitter than us in the last 20 minutes. Anyone else think that?

On a positive note, I think that we are getting harder to beat under Irons and Collins and a few of the teams we have still to play may find us a bit different from earlier in the season.

I think we're fit-don't confuse lack of desire with lack of fitness.
mortonjag 2008-03-23 16:16:42
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 23 2008, 04:14 PM) [snapback]424221[/snapback]
Oh no it isn't....
...I'll get ma coat! tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-23 16:22:31
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 23 2008, 04:15 PM) [snapback]424224[/snapback]
We seemed fitter than Thistle last week though.
I blame the table tennis.

Aye right-crafty old Corky-eh!
mortonjag 2008-03-23 16:24:34
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 23 2008, 04:13 PM) [snapback]424220[/snapback]
Still doesn't make it right, mind.

Rangers aren't doing this out the kindness of their hearts, they're a business. That money will be made back somehow....not that I'm cynical or anything dry.gif tongue.gif

But if it happened at Cappielow-- laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-23 16:28:44
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 23 2008, 04:23 PM) [snapback]424229[/snapback]
I see neddism transcends all ages. rolleyes.gif

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDHow DARE you superimpose such a ugly piece of headgear on my handsome frame?
mortonjag 2008-03-23 16:42:09
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Mar 22 2008, 08:31 PM) [snapback]423922[/snapback]
vibrators and inflateable sheep.

I like the Old Bank Bar, I still like the Jimmy Watt too though.

I know an old goat I'd love to blow up.

QUOTE(stuart @ Mar 22 2008, 09:22 PM) [snapback]423932[/snapback]
Did your fiance enjoy the game today?

fiancee?


...or was the inflatable sheep bit a clue?
mortonjag 2008-03-23 16:44:23
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 23 2008, 12:33 PM) [snapback]424119[/snapback]
it's abject mate. effects aint all that good and the plot and dialogue are embarrassing sad.gif

Have you ever watched 'Carry on up the Khyber'?
mortonjag 2008-03-23 16:46:06
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 23 2008, 04:40 PM) [snapback]424235[/snapback]
Me too, might have went OTT with the abuse I was giving him as the steward was going to chuck me out if I shouted anything else. laugh.gif

You're clearly into the more hunky ones young Deegan!
mortonjag 2008-03-23 17:04:42
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 23 2008, 04:57 PM) [snapback]424245[/snapback]
This is indeed a Gaberlunzie song.

LION ON THE GOLD
(Gordon Menzies)

For most of my life I have wandered the world
Through manys a nation with flags all unfurled
But in all of my travels no prouder flag I've found
Than the red rampant lion of the golden ground
It's the red rampant lion of Scotland

North by the Shetlands and South by the Tweed
It's honored forever in story and deed
First into battle it always could be found
The red rampant lion of the golden ground
It's the red rampant lion of Scotland

We've lost men at Floodin, at Flanders and Spain
More Culloden and El Alimain
But we've never been conquered and still we rally round
The red rampant lion of the golden ground
It's the red rampant lion of Scotland

The thistle is bonny when flowering alone
But whaur dare to meddle, she'll cut to the bone
And to Scotland my darling, me heart is ever bound
By the red rampant lion of the golden ground
It's the red rampant lion, the lion of Scotland
A Scotland united and free

Truth is Spurtle that the thistle is an ugly purple headed weed, but that's poetic licence, I guess!
mortonjag 2008-03-23 17:05:53
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 23 2008, 04:58 PM) [snapback]424247[/snapback]
MMMM.

...altesers
mortonjag 2008-03-23 17:08:25
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Mar 23 2008, 04:59 PM) [snapback]424248[/snapback]
Final nail in the coffin? rolleyes.gif

f*** THE SPL
mortonjag 2008-03-23 17:09:56
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Mar 23 2008, 04:56 PM) [snapback]424244[/snapback]
What about all the people who forked out £45 on that washed out rag for this season? Will they be getting a discount, don't see anyone else floffing their current top for £15. mad.gif

Were they not supposed to have been Nike until somebody f*cked up yet again?
mortonjag 2008-03-23 17:11:30
QUOTE(piehutt @ Mar 23 2008, 05:08 PM) [snapback]424260[/snapback]
I would assume SPL rules ensure that matches must be all ticket? Correct me if I'm wrong.

Certainly a laugh out loud moment.

Wonder how much Pearcy boy made after he paid the lecky?
mortonjag 2008-03-23 17:13:32
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 23 2008, 05:07 PM) [snapback]424256[/snapback]
He did make an arse of his first save and we would have been 1-0 down if not for Scott McLaughlin heading clear on the line.

....and they hit the woodwork twice!
mortonjag 2008-03-23 17:14:58
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Mar 23 2008, 05:12 PM) [snapback]424266[/snapback]
Yes, ended up with Buhkta, crap quality.

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Thorntons don't market Fudgy Wudgys!
mortonjag 2008-03-23 17:16:34
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Mar 23 2008, 05:12 PM) [snapback]424264[/snapback]
They must be desperate to get at least even a feeble notion of a travelling support.

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35.000 at Almondvale today Micky boy!
mortonjag 2008-03-23 17:18:37 [quote name='puggsy_ton' post='424269' date='Mar 23 2008, 05:15 PM']Very poor turnout from the Celtic fans. Week before an Old Firm game and still in the hunt for the league you really would have expected more of them to turnout!
Greatest fans on earth my erse!



Only a demented fool could think that.
mortonjag 2008-03-23 17:21:19
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Mar 23 2008, 05:19 PM) [snapback]424274[/snapback]
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Did i spell it wrong? unsure.gif

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No!
mortonjag 2008-03-23 18:11:16
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 23 2008, 05:23 PM) [snapback]424277[/snapback]
Don't agree Doc, I like the thistle, think it looks fab

And it's a flowering plant wink.gif

Undesirable flowering plant-a.k.a. weed, thistle thighs.
mortonjag 2008-03-23 18:15:21
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 23 2008, 05:45 PM) [snapback]424291[/snapback]
The administrator cannot act in way which is prejudicial to creditors and so if Alibi really wants to force the issue he could consider an application to court asserting that in using the SPL money to fund ongoing costs and wages, he is denying creditors the benefit of those funds.
Well, the pathetic crowd of 3,561 against Celtic must surely make it easier for Alibi to prove the financial absurdity of continuing to trade.

wot can they expect against Inverness Caley on 5 April ?

2 men and a dog ?

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The OF have now played an equal number of fixtures against the bumpkins-the Administrator's task has been accomplished I'd guess! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-23 18:21:21
QUOTE(18-deano-ehm-74 @ Mar 23 2008, 06:05 PM) [snapback]424298[/snapback]
Apparently the Smeltic fans started waving money at the Gretna keeper in the second half laugh.gif

Punts or Euros?
mortonjag 2008-03-23 18:28:10
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Mar 23 2008, 06:24 PM) [snapback]424317[/snapback]
We have now changed our wedding reception the the Dockers Club.

I didn't realise but my dad was a founder member of the Dockers Club.

Fortunately there was a cancellation and we managed to snap it up. We have had to bring our wedding forward by a week though. It will now be on Friday 23rd May.

Congratulations-that is my daughter's 28th birthday!
mortonjag 2008-03-23 18:29:44
QUOTE(18-deano-ehm-74 @ Mar 23 2008, 06:26 PM) [snapback]424319[/snapback]
Voted once he settles he will be good, but I don't know. I think he has a severe attitude problem TBH.

Surely something Mr Irons would have fixed by now? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-23 18:32:27
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 23 2008, 06:28 PM) [snapback]424323[/snapback]
Is this likely to be true ?

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LONDON — At one point, Alexis Hall had more than 50 pairs of designer shoes and handbags.

It never occurred to the 39-year-old media relations executive from Glasgow that her £31,500 debt would be a problem.

“It was so easy to get the loans and the credit that you almost think the goods are a gift from the shop,” she said. “You don’t fully realize that it’s real money you are spending until you actually sit down and consolidate your bills and then it’s a shock.”

As the United States economy weakens, many Americans are being overwhelmed by personal debt, but Britons are even more profligate. For most of the last decade, consumers here went on a debt-financed spending spree that made them the most indebted rich nation in the world, racking up a record £1.4 trillion in debt — more than the country’s gross domestic product.

By comparison, personal debt in the United States is $13.8 trillion, including mortgage debt, slightly less than the country’s $14 trillion G.D.P.

And while the Federal Reserve in Washington has cut interest rates, in an effort to loosen lenders’ grip on credit, the Bank of England’s interest rate increases last year are trickling through to mortgages at the very time home values are dropping and banks are becoming more reluctant to lend.

Sounds almost like the one time Raydale dressing room.
mortonjag 2008-03-23 18:34:58
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 23 2008, 06:31 PM) [snapback]424326[/snapback]
no punts in Dublin in July 2006 - only Euros, mate

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Once a *unt always a *unt!
mortonjag 2008-03-23 18:36:53
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 23 2008, 06:33 PM) [snapback]424328[/snapback]
you are a bad bad man.

too much time at Pishley Grammar ?

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Watch this space newt- Gre£na have been up and down faster than a wh*re's breeks this last week!
mortonjag 2008-03-23 18:40:36
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 23 2008, 06:35 PM) [snapback]424330[/snapback]
Based purely on yesterday's game McLaughlin would not be dropped to accommodate McGuffie. Bar one dithering moment McLaughlin played well.

He gets through a power of work, and reads the game early. He can also get himself to within shooting distance of goal when he tries-then usually spoils it all. I think the boy will still improve with coaching.
mortonjag 2008-03-23 19:34:42
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 23 2008, 07:21 PM) [snapback]424365[/snapback]
Attending a fancy dress party? unsure.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-23 19:37:25
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Mar 23 2008, 06:56 PM) [snapback]424344[/snapback]
Agree. I felt when the big defender Tinkler was beginning to struggle we should have started to run at him with pace. I knew as soon as Tinkler went off that was the last chance we could have scored.

Piss awful?
mortonjag 2008-03-23 19:39:45
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 23 2008, 06:57 PM) [snapback]424346[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-03-23 19:42:33
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 23 2008, 06:46 PM) [snapback]424335[/snapback]
you're blaming robinson for them hitting the woodwork? blink.gif

Well he didn't stop it happening-has he got a built in micrometer gauge?
mortonjag 2008-03-23 19:44:48
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 23 2008, 06:52 PM) [snapback]424341[/snapback]
you really need to find a new way to show that you have no reasonable answer to someones question.

the blink.gif while pretending not to understand is getting tiresome.

at least pick a new smilie. tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-23 19:48:07 We're not getting relegated-END OF!
mortonjag 2008-03-24 06:32:07
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 23 2008, 08:12 PM) [snapback]424389[/snapback]
they were both unstoppable shots, although Robinson does seem to go down in slow motion when a shot is along the ground.

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mortonjag 2008-03-24 06:34:43
QUOTE(Tontaster @ Mar 23 2008, 09:48 PM) [snapback]424408[/snapback]
I think wake is getting better along with the other players like greacen and robinson i think all wake needs now is a goal hopefully that will get his confidece up and he will start banging them in. smile.gif

Wakey Wakey
mortonjag 2008-03-24 06:36:33
QUOTE(craigeton @ Mar 23 2008, 10:47 PM) [snapback]424425[/snapback]
Mcguffie is very poor but Jenkins is a disgrace. He won't even go for 60 / 40 tackles in his favour never mind 50 / 50.
Was absolutely useless yesterday in the second half. The position Morton are in just now we need everyone working for the team to get us out of the mire. Jenkins is a passenger and shouldn't be near the team next week.

Not according to the Livvy fans!
mortonjag 2008-03-24 06:44:00
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 23 2008, 07:56 PM) [snapback]424386[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

I suggest you try to practice the the Law of Allowing

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You will probably live longer.

But, you already know that.

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http://law-of-attraction-info.com/allow.html



When you understand these principles and put them to use consciously and deliberately, you put yourself in a place of non-resistance. How do you know if you're allowing? By noticing how you feel . Your emotions are always your guide. Whenever you are in a place of feeling good, you are in a place of allowing. Nothing is more important than that you feel good!


I'd feel good if I booted f*ck out of......


QUOTE(scott_lithgows @ Mar 23 2008, 08:28 PM) [snapback]424393[/snapback]
With the black strip on,he reminded me of
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.....That f*ckin' duck


QUOTE(cappielowking @ Mar 23 2008, 11:30 PM) [snapback]424439[/snapback]
Those orange boots are the current nike ones theyre meant to be tough above the toe to offer some protection against metaursal breakage so I'd rather that than our players breaking metaursals



....and what about the peroxide?

Is it for his plooky heid?
mortonjag 2008-03-24 06:48:32
QUOTE(John_1959 @ Mar 23 2008, 09:24 PM) [snapback]424405[/snapback]
From the interview with the Gretna administrator after the Celtic game, he seems to think that Gretna will survive to be relegated, and play in div 1 next season. His comments to "chico" were..... " They played in that division last season, at Raydale, so why not again ?"

No matter what, my season ticket will be bought again....... no matter where

The administrator is now a liability for the creditors-he's merely pandering to SPL pressure and the whim that some bigger clown than Mileson may spash cash. He doesn't really expect Gretna to survive any more tham I do.

Into the big liquidiser NOW I demand.
mortonjag 2008-03-24 06:50:11
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 23 2008, 08:54 PM) [snapback]424399[/snapback]
25% think that mortonjag is a realist whose views should be respected.

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75% are fools!
mortonjag 2008-03-24 06:52:34
QUOTE(Lifelongfan @ Mar 24 2008, 03:18 AM) [snapback]424511[/snapback]
What a dobber you are

Thanks for endorsing my comment.
mortonjag 2008-03-24 06:54:46
QUOTE(Lifelongfan @ Mar 24 2008, 03:28 AM) [snapback]424513[/snapback]
Why don't you just shut the f-ck up for once in your misreable life

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The witty ones are always the best!
mortonjag 2008-03-24 07:04:54
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 23 2008, 11:57 PM) [snapback]424448[/snapback]
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I suppose I did invite that one. tongue.gif

You waffle along in Walloon
Yer waffle's no worth half a croon
Opinion frae Brussels
Affside more than Russell's
Yer only a big widden spoon.
mortonjag 2008-03-24 07:06:48
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 24 2008, 12:22 AM) [snapback]424470[/snapback]
If the sprinter tripped on his untied lace after 50m each race then he would be. wink.gif
Massa can't drive consistently without traction control - he's a liability.

Anther quote from 'Sir Jackie'?
mortonjag 2008-03-24 07:09:00
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 23 2008, 06:41 PM) [snapback]424333[/snapback]
Dragged out a bowling club kicking and screaming by a bunch of OAPs, I can picture it now. laugh.gif laugh.gif

Inaccurate ageism.

Wait till Weegie gets back.
mortonjag 2008-03-24 07:18:31
QUOTE(simple_ton @ Mar 23 2008, 09:16 PM) [snapback]424404[/snapback]
What I don't understand is the point being made by the churches about asking/telling MPs to vote guided by their conscience - they're not in parliament to represent their church, they're there to represent the views of constituents. The MPs own views shouldn't be of any relevance, unless of course it was stated in their manifesto that they would be voting on issues as dictated by religious beliefs.


Exactly-telling Catholic MP's to do what they've been told by the Church.

PLAIN AND SIMPLE
mortonjag 2008-03-24 07:23:39 Alexander attacks LibDems as she sets out vision for her party


Wendy Alexander is setting out her own vision for the way forward for Labour in Scotland, as the party prepares to gather for its annual conference later this week.

But in appealing to her own membership, she has felt it necessary to make a sideswipe at Labour's partners in the Scottish Constitutional Commission, the Liberal Democrats, accusing them of "woolly thinking" for not accepting that any change in the devolution settlement should involve some powers being handed back to Westminster.

She also appears to have abandoned any possibility of the commission coming up with a final set of proposals which all three pro-Union parties can sign up to, saying: "It will be for the parties to decide what parts of the commission's recommendations they wish to accept and put before the Scottish people."


Ms Alexander's 24-page pamphlet, "Change is what we do," calls for greater patient choice in healthcare, better basics in education and a more personalised approach there too, and continuing a tough stance on antisocial behaviour.

As such, it differs little from her predecessors, nor does it mark any clear policy divide with the party at Westminster, which will put her at odds with her party's left at Aviemore who will be demanding Labour recapture traditional policy ground now occupied by the nationalists.

Ms Alexander's vision statement speaks of "the three most gifted politicians of the centre-left - Bill Clinton, Tony Blair and Gordon Brown" who proved that "centre-left parties can run the economy not just well, but better than right-wing parties, while healing rifts right-wing politics worsen."

She admits the SNP slogan last year, "It's time for change," captured the public mood, which is why she wants to get her message across that the real party of change is Labour.

But she insists that to look at reviewing devolution only in terms of more powers for Holyrood would be "an exercise driven by Nationalist ideology" when it should be evidence-based.

"It is a pity that the Liberal Democrats seem to have set their face against the principle of looking at movement in both directions," she writes. "Clearly in a fast changing world it is no more than woolly thinking to assume that within devolved or federal arrangements movement will only be in one direction."

A LibDem spokesman last night said: "Nobody can present a coherent argument naming specific powers that they would like to see returned to Westminster.

"The Scottish people want to see an enhanced parliament with greater powers, particularly fiscal powers, and those are the proposals which the LibDems will be presenting to the commission."

For the SNP, Ochil MSP Keith Brown said: "Her commission and her credibility are now in tatters. The commission started off seeking more powers for Scotland but has now been downgraded by Brown to a working party which would take powers back to London."

He also said she had gaffed by praising John Wheatley's expansion of council house building, given her own party's behaviour in parliament last week. "This is another example of why there are serious questions and divisions about Wendy Alexander's leadership. She attacks the Tories for opposing council house building John Wheatley initiated.

"Yet only last Thursday Wendy and her Labour MSPs conspired with the Tories to try and prevent authorities from building new houses."




I particularly liked the highlighted paragraph.

mortonjag 2008-03-24 08:37:14
QUOTE(jimmy boag delivers @ Mar 24 2008, 08:31 AM) [snapback]424535[/snapback]
“Mentaljag” is a probably a more meaningful name for the old narcissistic keyboard assassin.

It’s the posts where he references himself in the 3rd person is what scares me – he’s clearly suffering a personality disorder. The continued baiting and goading of others in his posts are fuelling an ego that has a vast overestimation of itself. The old fruitcake gets his kicks out of every person that decides to take the bait and respond to his posts.

So it’s best not to stoke the fire. For an easier life reading the Morton board, turn on the ignore button and you won’t find the need to reply to any of his posts. In turn, old Mortonjag can get his kicks and whet his appetite for talking sh1te somewhere else. It’s that easy.

Clearly suffering from a personality disorder in your opinion Professor, and please don't dare to suggest that I overestimate myself.

That is simply impossible.

Now run off and read more psychology books. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-24 09:03:40
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 24 2008, 08:48 AM) [snapback]424539[/snapback]
The guy's a fud.

But god damnit he's an entertaining old fool.

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Slopped out yet?
mortonjag 2008-03-24 09:25:19
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 24 2008, 09:07 AM) [snapback]424542[/snapback]
Totally 100% correct. Davie McArthur thinks it is wrong to refer to oneself in the third person. tongue.gif

They would, wouldn't she? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-24 09:26:49
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 24 2008, 09:09 AM) [snapback]424543[/snapback]
but would you feed good 24 hours later ?

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Not if it was still alive!
mortonjag 2008-03-24 09:31:05
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 24 2008, 09:25 AM) [snapback]424549[/snapback]
I always thought the concept of 'full time' football was a weird one. If I worked two hours a day I would work 'part time' surely?

It's all to do with your concept of the concept Mr McArthur.

I believe that in footballing terms 'full time' is simply meant to indicate 'no other source of earned income'.

mortonjag 2008-03-24 09:34:37
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 24 2008, 09:32 AM) [snapback]424553[/snapback]
Really? blink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-24 09:39:45
QUOTE(BlueTube @ Mar 24 2008, 09:36 AM) [snapback]424556[/snapback]
Willowman is fine. Just keeping a low profile just now.

I'll let the polis know.
mortonjag 2008-03-24 09:42:47
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 24 2008, 09:37 AM) [snapback]424557[/snapback]
Davie McArthur would need clarification before posting anything further.

Clarification Mr McArthur-essential for a good wine or consomme.
mortonjag 2008-03-24 09:44:45
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 24 2008, 09:39 AM) [snapback]424558[/snapback]
Who said it was annual?

Dandy, Wizard, Beano, and Oor Wullie-minimum 500 deliveries.
mortonjag 2008-03-24 10:16:47
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 24 2008, 10:02 AM) [snapback]424570[/snapback]
Nah. My room mate might need to tho as he pissed the bed my first night here! Haha.. dirty English b*****d smile.gif

Jesus-I didn't REALLY think you were in jail-now you've got my imagination into overdrive!
mortonjag 2008-03-24 10:22:18
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 24 2008, 10:14 AM) [snapback]424575[/snapback]
Dowza I might be able to pipe the new date, but honestly wont know until nearer the time. I have a band practice that night and the Scottish Championship on the Saturday.

I'll do my best to make the service though if your still wanting the pipes.

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And they girn at GPs who can't give appointments in 24 hours-that's TWO F*CKIN' MONTHS NOTICE tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-24 10:30:11
QUOTE(BlueTube @ Mar 24 2008, 10:25 AM) [snapback]424578[/snapback]
Was coming out of the game on Saturday and noticed the Police booking people as they were returning to there vehicles. The vehicles were parked on the pavement in front of the wee car park at Carwood Street. Now I know they shouldn't be parked there but every home game for as long as my arse has pointed south there has always been cars parked there. In fact a friend of mine, who incidentally is a regular contributer to the matchday programme, was one of the people getting a stern warning from the plods.
Why have they suddenly decided to get heavy with these people after all this time? Is it possibly that they were drafted in from another area and just don't know what goes on or is someone in the Darymple St Hotel getting super officious. Got me angry to see it.

P.S. Before anyone asks, no i wasn't one of the ones caught. I alway park at Bawhirley Road.

There was some kind of announcement during the game-not on the normal tannoy, about cars they wanted moved. The female announcer's voice was very muffled, and I certainly couldn't make out the details.

Maybe a wee 'get out' there folks! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-24 10:34:01
QUOTE(Clydebuilt @ Mar 24 2008, 10:32 AM) [snapback]424580[/snapback]
You could set British Summertime or Wintertime by the seasonal witch-hunts against Rab Cochrane.

Sure it's pish, but it's his pish and he's honest enough & big enough to do it in a public forum using his own name. Far better he were to jack his column in and revert to snidey wee anonymous attacks on this esteemed forum eh.................

.....and your name is? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-24 10:46:52
QUOTE(Clydebuilt @ Mar 24 2008, 10:44 AM) [snapback]424586[/snapback]
Clydebuilt, what's your's....earnest know f***-all?

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Very good smart arse-so you'll NOT be telling then! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-24 10:50:54
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 24 2008, 10:45 AM) [snapback]424587[/snapback]
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That was actually quite good auld yin, well done. tongue.gif

Fing did that one-he's really the poet in the family!
mortonjag 2008-03-24 10:54:11
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 24 2008, 10:45 AM) [snapback]424588[/snapback]
Pissed his own bed. Musta been some flow too as it woke me up. I was too/drunk tired to wake him up and let him know. He noticed when he woke up in the morning tho'.

AHA-he didn't REALLY piss the bed at all.His bladder function simply went into autopilot while he was temporarily brain dead! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-24 10:56:12
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 24 2008, 10:54 AM) [snapback]424593[/snapback]
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What are you rolleyes.gif ing about?

What kind of service do you call that?
mortonjag 2008-03-24 10:58:12
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 24 2008, 10:56 AM) [snapback]424595[/snapback]
Phew, I don't wear a sash and I don't wear a suit either. tongue.gif

M. Leotard est arrive!
mortonjag 2008-03-24 11:00:30
QUOTE(Clydebuilt @ Mar 24 2008, 10:51 AM) [snapback]424591[/snapback]
It's not too difficult to find out if you really want to

Really-I know fine who you are!


































...and yer soup's crap.
mortonjag 2008-03-24 11:05:16
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 24 2008, 10:59 AM) [snapback]424598[/snapback]
Actually I wasn't being entirely honest there and I should come clean.

I do occasionally go here for a couple of drinks after work..... but only because it's handy, honest. tongue.gif

http://www.lodge-hotels.be/lodge/home.jsp

Nthing to do with beaver then?


Romantiek in stijlRomantiek op en top in deze gerestaureerde hoeve.
mortonjag 2008-03-24 11:07:36
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 24 2008, 11:04 AM) [snapback]424600[/snapback]
The "I'm currently a student and might not be come then" kind of service wink.gif

SorryPuggs-I thought you offered a piping service-I do have it in for plumbers right now!
mortonjag 2008-03-24 11:29:45
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Mar 24 2008, 11:18 AM) [snapback]424604[/snapback]
So you are accusing RCs of Ultramontanism!

BTW, you seem to be indicating that only RC m.p.s will vote according to their conscience.

Which is of course drivel.

Complete and utter drivel Mr Bam.

A politician has no conscience-do clergymen not understand?
mortonjag 2008-03-24 11:33:48
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 24 2008, 11:29 AM) [snapback]424608[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-03-24 11:47:10
QUOTE(Yoda @ Mar 24 2008, 11:31 AM) [snapback]424610[/snapback]
Did someone not once say of Oppenhiemer and his team, just because they could - no one questioned if they should. ?

It's tricky territory. On the face of it, of course it will be tightly regulated and I know at least two of my family would benefit from some of the treatments that are bound to come out of it. It could be an incredible thing for man - but would it be such an incredible thing for mankind if the technology got into the wrong hands?

Ego and self rightousness will always be a concern, as I believe there are hardly any truly altruistic acts how can we be certain that a monster is not created - a Pandora's box that may not be again closed. Then again in Greek tragedy hope was the one thing that was considered good, the Roman story looked at it differently, hope was perhaps the most dangerous and the one to be feared most.

As inappropriate as it may seem, politics and religion have always been inextricably linked, the law of this land is based on the ten commandments. Is it so unacceptable to think that our politicians would let their beliefs be guided by their religion whatever religion that may be?

Yes the man is using his position to influence, but as only 9 of the 59 MSP lettered have replied - can we really tell exactly what effect he is having?

I agree with much of that but from a religious, or quasi religious viewpoint, 'God' has given man those skills-skills which can be used to alleviate suffering and misery. Surely if 'God' did not want that, 'he'd not allow it.

Simplistic I know Yoda.

The best example of religion and medicine at loggerheads is the Jehova's Witesses refusal to use blood or blood by products.

Parents can refuse to allow a transfusion to an 'under consent age' child, whereby it dies. The parents will be quite satisfied with the murder because they have obeyed conscience.
mortonjag 2008-03-24 11:57:02
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 24 2008, 11:54 AM) [snapback]424620[/snapback]
it's is easy to see how you have ammassed so many posts. tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-24 12:02:44
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 24 2008, 11:57 AM) [snapback]424623[/snapback]
I don't see what the big deal is here. Surely the Catholic church as with any other religious order or even a pressure group or big business is allowed to lobby our elected officials in the interests of its members or shareholders. The Cardinal is only saying that his church is wholly against the principles at least they're not trying to buy the government with seven figure donations in order to keep tobacco advertising in F1 (well not that we know of anyway!!).

Is he representing the wishes of Roman Catholics in general-if so fair enough.

If, however, he is simply trying to enforce 'perceived wisdom', I believe that to be entirely different.
mortonjag 2008-03-24 12:05:01
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 24 2008, 11:59 AM) [snapback]424624[/snapback]
is it bad that i know the threads you start purely from the name of the thread and without even looking at who the thread starter is? we're spending far too much time together MJ.

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mortonjag 2008-03-24 12:17:36
QUOTE(capitanus @ Mar 24 2008, 12:09 PM) [snapback]424628[/snapback]
Isnt that what you try and do on this messageboard, hunners of times each day.

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WOOD EYE? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-24 12:21:19
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Mar 24 2008, 12:09 PM) [snapback]424629[/snapback]
When i seen the title I thought get in there a half decent erotic performer in the vein o sticky vicky hits the liberal club, instead o giving her a sultry moniker please stick with "stupid boot show" to avoid further confusion.

'Pig in knickers'?
mortonjag 2008-03-24 12:34:40
QUOTE(capitanus @ Mar 24 2008, 12:08 PM) [snapback]424627[/snapback]
The big deal is that it was a catholic saying it, and many people in West Central Scotland have a sheer bitter dislike towards catholics. Many folk reading this thread will be disagreeing with Cardinal O'Brien because of who he is rather than what he saying, sadly it will never change. Too many people around these parts with a 'No Surrender/FTP' mentality. sad.gif

You are right in what you say, if big business can lobby the government then why shouldn't religious groups.

It's unpleasant to have folk disliking you sheerly and bitterly-it hurts me to the core about fifty times a day, and if I complain, it just seems to get worse.
mortonjag 2008-03-24 12:42:04
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Mar 24 2008, 11:08 AM) [snapback]424603[/snapback]

Good quality video. That last shot of theirs which hit the woodwork coud have dumped us!! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-24 14:50:40
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 24 2008, 12:55 PM) [snapback]424640[/snapback]
Absolutely correct George. He's not hiding behind anything unlike most on here.
This has been going on for years and I'm surprised folk still bother to be honest. I suppose ManchesterTon is just playing catch up and he's in a long line of those who slag Rab off. It's comments from the Genitals boy that are the worst though, no constructive nature or humour to them and resorting to just abuse is just sad really.
I've said it a million times, Rab's column is pish but it's Shakespeare in comparison to the drivel posted on here by the borderline mentally ill

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mortonjag 2008-03-24 14:57:30
QUOTE(BlueTube @ Mar 24 2008, 01:08 PM) [snapback]424647[/snapback]
I must say that he had a better game today and did make a couple of good saves. Personally he still does not install any confidence and I still think he is pish.

He was nowhere near the two woodwork shots and in the second half made one of his super duper somersaulting dives to pick up a harmless ball to his left, fumbled, and was lucky to recover.

Goalies get little mercy-if the two shots had gone in, he'd again be villain of the week.
mortonjag 2008-03-24 15:01:42
QUOTE(Yoda @ Mar 24 2008, 01:37 PM) [snapback]424661[/snapback]
Expecting representatives to disclose their religious proclivities is I believe naive. Some of them can't be trusted to catalogue expenses and donations, it seems a bit fanciful to expect them to disclose something as personal as which church they attend, how deep their religious beliefs are or if they are members of other organisations attached to a particular belief or following.

Differing circumstances have a bearing on peoples beliefs and church attendance. Should we have a yearly audit on religious saturation? I think it would be impossible to police.

Religion should be a personal thing between the believer and their god, however it is not always played out that way. I don't think it is something we will ever get away from, there will always be a divide over whether or not religion should play a part in decision making for the country as a whole or over who's way of worship is better and whether or not is is better to quietly have faith or shout from the roof tops and indeed whether no faith is the best alternative.

Religion does a lot for man but nothing for mankind!

If you vote someone in on the basis of their manifesto then I think you should trust that they have consulted their beliefs when constructing it, there for is there a need for them to disclose which church they worship in - if indeed they worship at any?

Precis-politics = amorality.
mortonjag 2008-03-24 15:09:14 I'm afraid the polis have no alternative. Obstructing a public footpath is an offence, and if somebody has complained their hands are tied.

Mind you I DO like the wheelchair story-OK it might be perfectly true, and if so I hope the guy is less adventurous in future and wasn't injured, but it sounds more like a pathetic attempt to excuse their unpopularity, and when you think SERIOUSLY about it, could be construed as discriminatory AGAINST disabled people. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-24 15:21:11
QUOTE(BlueTube @ Mar 24 2008, 03:16 PM) [snapback]424687[/snapback]
Was it a police wumin?

Could it have been Gillian Donaldson?
mortonjag 2008-03-24 15:52:53
QUOTE(ton1901 @ Mar 24 2008, 03:30 PM) [snapback]424693[/snapback]
any player can make a mistake and have nothing said yet keeper has a good game and the points your making didnt even go in and he is still getting moaned about.

Is somebody moaning?
mortonjag 2008-03-24 15:54:58
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Mar 24 2008, 03:34 PM) [snapback]424695[/snapback]
One of the cars mentioned in the police announcement was my mates car. He had parked in front of the garages at the flats. The garage he parked in front of was the one boarded up with wood. Unless BA was about to smash out of it in the A-Team van, i can't see he who was obstructing.

Absolute criminals the pair of us!

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mortonjag 2008-03-24 15:59:48
QUOTE(simple_ton @ Mar 24 2008, 03:54 PM) [snapback]424699[/snapback]
To change tack slightly - the one point we're all missing here is regardless of any vot taken in parliament, the stem cell research genie is already out of the bottle, and it will continue, so surely the actual issue up for vote is how is it going to be regulated. I don't belive for a minute that th research will stop now that it's started.

There were a couple of people on Radio Scotland debating this issue this morning, they raised the issue of the false info being propogated, and the use of emotive language linking the issue to "frankenstein"

Unfettered inbreeding has accounted for many real life 'Frankensteins'.

People are naturally wary about any far reaching advance in science-and rightly so, but if all alarmists had been heeded in the past we'd still be in 'the dark ages'.
mortonjag 2008-03-24 16:01:50 Well all I can say is that David Irons put his arm round the boy in sympathy as he came off-I think that says enough.
mortonjag 2008-03-24 16:04:24
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 24 2008, 03:56 PM) [snapback]424701[/snapback]
Here if you really wanna continue on this "me being in the big house" joke MortonJag did I mention that I arranged a date on my first night here?

*dangles line*

Jersey!


More like a date wi' a woolly jumper.
mortonjag 2008-03-24 16:21:52
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Mar 24 2008, 04:11 PM) [snapback]424710[/snapback]
does that count for you as well Mr. s***ebag ? its more than obvious that you are still "stuck in the dark ages". Maybe you should volunteer your services for medical research in to euthenasia. I really wish you would f*** off and leave this forum.

Hmm-would you care to elaborate?

Oh and the modern way of spelling the word is EUTHANASIA.

Here to help!
mortonjag 2008-03-24 16:24:35
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 24 2008, 04:05 PM) [snapback]424708[/snapback]
That was s***e MJ.

I'd expected more.

Eh-what's wrong with woolly jumpers?
mortonjag 2008-03-24 16:27:00
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 24 2008, 04:19 PM) [snapback]424715[/snapback]
Aye and if yer auntie had baws she'd be yer uncle. What's your point here exactly?

Don't be obtuse.
mortonjag 2008-03-24 19:13:39
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 24 2008, 06:41 PM) [snapback]424773[/snapback]
didnt know that tom
i am for this as long as its done right, and gets cures for many things that are needed.

I couldn't agree more Bryan.

I can't blame the Cardinal for doing what he thinks is morally correct.

In 1974, in the most Catholic town in Scotland, good little Catholic girls were coming to me in their droves for the pill, DESPITE every contrary direction from 'on high'.

Seems common sense will out.
mortonjag 2008-03-24 19:17:11
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 24 2008, 06:19 PM) [snapback]424760[/snapback]
ahem, that's the third person sad.gif

Tom, Dick, and Ahem, Trumpet?
mortonjag 2008-03-24 19:41:21
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 24 2008, 04:50 PM) [snapback]424728[/snapback]
Just looking for some input on a part of my dissertation.

It focuses on the PFI in schools, for which the bottom line of determining a project is a success is whether or not it delivers value for money for the taxpayer.

My theory is for schools a lot more should be looked at rather than simply being able to balance the books and make the government look like they have done something right for a change.

So what other ways would you board members consider a school to be a success?

The obvious one I have are exam results. The other is looking at the schools location in terms of its success (ie if it is in a bad area but still able to give the pupils a chance at something when leaving school rather than becoming another waster).

I have other ideas kicking around too but these two have been put to paper and just wondering what others would consider before I put anything else down.

I'm afraid the term 'success' could be kicked about all night Puggs. Ultimately the best indicators must be exam results, though that's far from an ideal measurement of 'education'.

In any event who, or what, is this ubiquitous 'taxpayer' for whom it is to deliver value for money. Taxpayers are surely a diverse bunch, with different perceptions of the purpose of education.


Oh and PPP STINKS!
mortonjag 2008-03-24 19:45:37
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 24 2008, 04:33 PM) [snapback]424720[/snapback]
Far from it. Your post is full of ifs buts and maybes. Perhaps if you understood the wider context of the game of football rather than micro-analysing every move of every player you may be able to chill out and enjoy the game a bit more. Even the best teams in the world concede goals, just as the best players in the world make mistakes too. Robinson dealt with everything he had and was able to very well. He could not be held responsible for the goal given the deflection. The fact that two shots hit the woodwork is not a reflection on Robinson. Also, the one cleared off the line was first tipped along in front of the line by a stretched Robinson in a reflex save.

I merely commented that, had they gone in-which you appear to agree was a possibility-he'd currently be getting dogs' abuse. blink.gif blink.gif blink.gif

mortonjag 2008-03-24 19:49:36
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Mar 24 2008, 05:59 PM) [snapback]424756[/snapback]
A very reliable source told me you have a bee in your Easter bonnet because the boots clashed with your nail polish tongue.gif wink.gif

SO WHAT? mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-24 19:50:50
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 24 2008, 06:24 PM) [snapback]424764[/snapback]
surge to 28.3%

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QUOTE(C B @ Mar 24 2008, 06:30 PM) [snapback]424769[/snapback]
29.51%

Monkey rules !

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mortonjag 2008-03-24 19:54:07
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 24 2008, 06:48 PM) [snapback]424775[/snapback]
here's an example:

Was it a tongue in cheek example or not Trumpet?


....or would you know the difference? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-24 19:56:51
QUOTE(leyTON @ Mar 24 2008, 07:28 PM) [snapback]424805[/snapback]
i find it hard to critisice rab as i know him well
hes expressing an opinion on morton, as do others on this board regularly, but they dont agree with it so they get angry as if he has no right to do so - its the same with mortonjag
the only thing i take issue with is rab commenting on away games when he isnt there

TBH I've never yet had the pleasure or otherwise of reading one of his pieces, but, as you suggest, he does seem to get a reaction. That's not a bad thing for a hack. I bet he has a wee smile!
mortonjag 2008-03-24 19:59:58
QUOTE(morton_forever @ Mar 24 2008, 07:03 PM) [snapback]424783[/snapback]
Just heard from a source inside Cappielow (no he shall no be named), the Chris Innes shall sign for the Ton tomorrow pending Fifa allowing him to leave his contract at Gretna.

Trust me on this one wink.gif

SK smile.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-24 20:04:30
QUOTE(leyTON @ Mar 24 2008, 08:01 PM) [snapback]424822[/snapback]
a hacks a bit extreme
hes not exactly a reporter

How would you describe him-a post match commentator?

As I say, I've never seen one of his bits! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-24 20:07:18
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 24 2008, 08:02 PM) [snapback]424823[/snapback]
wondered when you'd arrive to give us another one of your interesting posts. you're getting lazy. you at least used to give your opinions on things, now you just do smilies. tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-24 20:09:05
QUOTE(CraigoTON @ Mar 24 2008, 08:04 PM) [snapback]424826[/snapback]
not true, he also quotes AND highlights the text, usuallly in a vibrant fuschia.

This is



VIBRANT FUSCHIA



for those who imagined it was some kind of sexual deviation.
mortonjag 2008-03-24 20:10:52
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 24 2008, 07:59 PM) [snapback]424820[/snapback]
the key with exam results is value-add, which involves comparing predicted performance at age 11, say, with actual performance at age 16, rather than looking at absolute performance on exit.

Teacher Trumpet! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-24 20:14:28
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 24 2008, 08:04 PM) [snapback]424828[/snapback]
A'hem...... see below a post a made earlier today.
Tom, either you're completely senile or you just like to make things up as you go along to suit your argument. Either way you just end up making yourself out to be daft old t***. rolleyes.gif

Is he wrong about you being a ginger dwarf as well?


It's been said of you so often that I'm really begining to wonder. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-24 20:20:00
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Mar 24 2008, 08:10 PM) [snapback]424831[/snapback]
I have it on good authority that this transformation was purely down to Wylie's coaching techniques during last week:

DW: "So Lee, you're not too bad a keeper at the moment: decent kicking, good shot stopper and not bad at commanding your area; but instead of punching the ball at a cross, have you ever thought about catching it?"

LR: "That's not a bad idea actually..."

And so it was that Lee Robinson caught every cross on Saturday!

....and this week


DW: Lee if you just dive to left or right and don't birl round five times in the process, you won't be so dizzy when you take the goal kick!
mortonjag 2008-03-24 20:24:08
QUOTE(The Shuffler @ Mar 24 2008, 08:17 PM) [snapback]424835[/snapback]
Got a weekend to spend in Glasgow with the other half in a few months, not really too clued up on where to go for a decent meal or the "in" pubs, also looking for any opinions on a decent hotel. Been to Ashton Lane a few times found it pretty good but expensive & been down Byres road too. Only ever been in a few eateries, two Chinese buffet type places, I Dragon & an Indian ( which i cant remember the name of ! ).

Ive checked out the Hotels on line but ended up wacko.gif with the choices ! Just looking for somewhere within walking distance of pubs clubs etc.

All thoughts/experiences welcomed ! smile.gif

It's 'horses for courses' Shuffler-depends EXACTLY what you want-Glasgow is a bustling cosmopolitan area nowadays which caters for just about everybody.
mortonjag 2008-03-24 21:00:52
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 24 2008, 08:50 PM) [snapback]424850[/snapback]
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Tom's the only person in the world who thinks I'm ginger. laugh.gif There are plenty of people who know me on here (SimpleTon, DongaTon to name but two) who'll confirm that I'm not. So quite why he thinks that calling someone something that they're patently not is a clever wind up beats me. rolleyes.gif Like I said, I think he's getting a bit senile.

I do concede however that I am a dwarf. tongue.gif

Not a real live dwarf though-like in Snowhite-just a little chap?

A Brussels smout peut etre?
mortonjag 2008-03-24 21:02:25
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 24 2008, 08:54 PM) [snapback]424854[/snapback]
Why must you come stamen into this thread so often?

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mortonjag 2008-03-24 21:05:54
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 24 2008, 08:55 PM) [snapback]424855[/snapback]
probably from the same ' source '. or else someone on here told someone about his post and he told someone and then that someone told you. tongue.gif

Hey PT-nod, nod, wink, wink---I have it on extremely good authority that we could sign Paul McGowan within the next five years.
mortonjag 2008-03-24 21:07:40
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 24 2008, 09:03 PM) [snapback]424859[/snapback]
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Apollen!
mortonjag 2008-03-24 21:10:26
QUOTE(morton_forever @ Mar 24 2008, 09:08 PM) [snapback]424864[/snapback]
What happened to my topic?

Did I say something wrong? blink.gif

It was here a minute ago!
mortonjag 2008-03-24 21:12:19
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Mar 24 2008, 09:10 PM) [snapback]424866[/snapback]
Lucky enough to have had a great view of the River Clyde in a few of my homes.

We live in one of the most beautiful places in the world, don't laugh.

WORK!


What's it called? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-24 21:14:26
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Mar 24 2008, 09:11 PM) [snapback]424867[/snapback]
I don’t think the Cardinal is necessarily reflecting the views of all Christians or for that matter all RC’s or even for that matter all priests? Well I think that is the case given that it is a “broad church”. Whilst, sitting having Easter Dinner yesterday my MIL started to discuss the subject and saying how the Cardinal was quite right in his views. Luckily (for me) her son asked her to explain more. To which she replied “the Cardinal is a very intelligent man so he understands the issue very well. That is good enough for me.”

Anyway, if disagreeing with the Cardinal now makes me a “pape-basher” then so be it. FTP, No Surrender, 1690, etc. etc. blink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-24 21:17:13
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 24 2008, 09:14 PM) [snapback]424876[/snapback]
Cet homme petit, pas ginger, mais avec trois maisons.



Comment? mad.gif


Trois grandes maisons pour un smout de Brussels, and the people have no bread Mr Edwards.
mortonjag 2008-03-24 21:23:05
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 24 2008, 09:11 PM) [snapback]424868[/snapback]
Big enough?
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDI think we'd need a big, big mincer first!
mortonjag 2008-03-24 21:28:54
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Mar 24 2008, 09:25 PM) [snapback]424889[/snapback]
MortonJag, I have replied to you, on more than one occasion, with an easy to follow explanation just like Deego did to reply to all posts in one post.

Click QUOTE on all you want to reply to.
Click ADD REPLY when done.
Now add your replies in between the quotes.
Click NOT FCKING ROCKET SCIENCE>

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Welcome back-I've been doing it for days! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-24 21:34:10
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 24 2008, 09:25 PM) [snapback]424890[/snapback]
For llama burgers?

The administrator will be getting ideas, and Alibi will be salivating.


World famous Raydale Llamaburgers-new factory on old fitba ground-bumpkin unemployment slashed overnight.

MMM
mortonjag 2008-03-24 21:35:05
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 24 2008, 09:32 PM) [snapback]424896[/snapback]
what did I miss?

A rumour.
mortonjag 2008-03-24 21:38:14
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 24 2008, 09:33 PM) [snapback]424899[/snapback]
missing tottie scones

That'll teach you to be a bad boy!
mortonjag 2008-03-24 21:39:20
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 24 2008, 09:37 PM) [snapback]424912[/snapback]
We can't tell you, you weren't here wink.gif

Cos he's been a bad boy!
mortonjag 2008-03-24 21:42:07
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Mar 24 2008, 09:37 PM) [snapback]424911[/snapback]
Robinson's always been a decent keeper. It's our arsehole fans who jump on every little mistake that were incorrect.

Oh I'm sure he has Donga


As to our arsehole fans.

Well I guess there's no accounting for taste.
mortonjag 2008-03-24 21:45:58
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Mar 24 2008, 09:44 PM) [snapback]424925[/snapback]
Sure, I was just countering your accusation that i'd never helped you!

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I wasn't blaming YOU-just myself!
mortonjag 2008-03-24 21:50:43
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 24 2008, 09:38 PM) [snapback]424914[/snapback]
Sounds like Double Dutch to me. I think you're accusing me of having something small. My version of word doesn't translate, so I'll have to surmise. Ach well, ask the troll, he'll tell you size doesn't matter. According to him, it's all down to one's age, religion, politics and most importantly, how many houses you have. biggrin.gif

In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you
mortonjag 2008-03-24 21:54:33
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 24 2008, 09:51 PM) [snapback]424930[/snapback]
so good you said it twice wink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-24 22:18:28
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 24 2008, 10:02 PM) [snapback]424948[/snapback]
Mais non, Cet Homme Petit. I just enjoy winding folk up who think that anyone younger than them is there to be patronised, anyone older than them is there to be mocked, anyone who has religious faith is naive, anyone with a different political view is a numpty, and, last but not least, anyone with less than three houses is a loser. laugh.gif
Most of all, I do like a laugh, and lately, you've been providing plenty. tongue.gif

But you are only a dwarf?
mortonjag 2008-03-24 22:21:02
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Mar 24 2008, 10:05 PM) [snapback]424953[/snapback]
Martin Lews who runs the moneysavingexpert.com website has some really good advice here when it comes to car insurance. He suggests using the following website IN THE FOLLOWING order when looking for car insurance:

moneysupermarket.com (48% of total market)
confused.com (16% of total market)
comparethemarket (16% of total market)
tescocompare (8% of the total market)
uswitch (8% of the total market)
gocompare (4% of the total market)

A friend of mine tried this for his renewal and saved a good bit of money- worth a try.

Martin's money tips are well worthwhile
mortonjag 2008-03-24 22:24:20
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 24 2008, 10:19 PM) [snapback]424965[/snapback]
Don't think you come back that way from Peterhead do ye?

*racks brain*

the one I'm thinking of is when you come up through Lanarkshire

EH-a roundabout?
mortonjag 2008-03-24 22:27:20
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 24 2008, 10:26 PM) [snapback]424969[/snapback]
The pyramid one is on the A80, between the M8 and Moodiesburn.
So that's used for anywhere north. smile.gif

And it's got two pyramids known locally as Madonna's tits.
mortonjag 2008-03-24 22:29:23
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Mar 24 2008, 10:21 PM) [snapback]424967[/snapback]
Never read this thread as it looks boring but I have one question to ask about religion.

Science has pretty much disproved every serious religion so why do people still believe?

What goes round comes round?
mortonjag 2008-03-24 22:45:02
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Mar 24 2008, 10:36 PM) [snapback]424978[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-03-24 22:48:09
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 24 2008, 10:37 PM) [snapback]424979[/snapback]
Me? I don't think so. 5' 11" I stand, used to be 6' 0" until I bust my back 12 years ago. Anyway, it's not nice to call people dwarves. Troll is ok though. laugh.gif

I was, of course, referring to the Brussels Smout, who on his own confession is a dwarf.

If a dwarf wishes to be called a dwarf, I'd suggest it's unkind to call him a troll.
mortonjag 2008-03-24 22:51:37
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Mar 24 2008, 10:47 PM) [snapback]424993[/snapback]
Schools should be judged on what their pupils acheive after leaving. The majority of school subjects, especially at Higher level, do not teach pupils things that will be useful to them in the real world, so exam results are not the way to judge. Gourock High has had the best exam results in Inverclyde almost every year in the last ten, yet it has had the highest number of Uni and College dropouts from any school in Inverclyde. Therefore, you can't really call it the best school in Inverclyde, as although it has had the best exam results, it's pupils have not been successful in the real world, therefore the school has been unsuccessful in its' education. Proof that exam results should not be used to judge IMO.

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mortonjag 2008-03-24 22:54:04
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 24 2008, 10:51 PM) [snapback]424997[/snapback]
Excuses excuses. 46 year old's can and do suffer from dementia you know. Sitting at the computer thinking you're watching TV could be symptomatic.

Even 46 year old dwarves?
mortonjag 2008-03-24 22:57:12
QUOTE(capitanus @ Mar 24 2008, 10:52 PM) [snapback]425000[/snapback]
Whats the difference between a dwarf and a midget?

Dwarves are deformed-midgets are diminutive but of normal shape.
mortonjag 2008-03-24 22:59:18
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Mar 24 2008, 10:57 PM) [snapback]425005[/snapback]
You know what I mean. laugh.gif

I do and I don't. Given the relative value of any old Uni degree those days, we may have confirmation that the Gourockians remain the brightest and quickest learners!
mortonjag 2008-03-25 07:06:10
NHS admits it is failing thousands suffering chronic pain


Thousands of patients living with incurable pain are being let down by the Scottish NHS, according to a hard-hitting report by the health service's own watchdog.

Despite four official investigations in the past 14 years highlighting worrying gaps in care, the research reveals there has been very little improvement.

Specialist support for people who suffer chronic pain is patchy and inadequate, patients are confused and clinicians are frustrated, say the authors.


They are demanding action from the Scottish Government and health boards to ensure patients, who can wait years for the treatment they need, get faster access to the right medical help.

It is estimated that 18% of the population, 900,000 people, suffer some form of chronic pain. This is discomfort from injury or disease which persists beyond the typical healing process.

One-quarter of people diagnosed are unable to continue working because of the condition, yet just 3% of sufferers are sent to the specialist clinics.

NHS Quality Improvement Scotland, which monitors standards in the health service, has published the latest report.

It notes the Scottish Office first described services as patchy in 1994 and further documents published by very experienced people in 2000, 2002 and 2004 raised the same issues.

"Despite all of this, very little progress has been made. Access to specialist services is poor."

NHS QIS found not one health board could accurately describe the services they did offer.

Dr Pete Mackenzie, who worked on the report, said: "There are major blackspots around the country where there is almost a complete lack of service. The chances of (being told there is no hope) are much greater if you live in an area like that."

Dr Mackenzie said, there was frustration about the pace of progress, adding: "It is fair to say many of us, and particularly the patients with chronic pain, feel reports come and go and nothing much happens."

A Scottish Government spokeswoman said: "We are considering the recommendations relating to the Scottish Government, and the Health Secretary will use her address to the national conference organised by the Pain Association Scotland on May 20 to set out her response.

"We have for a number of years been encouraging the development of a managed clinical network approach to chronic pain."




You're lying in bed bound agony listening to wee Nickerless Surgeon and her amoral fibbing about an NHS that meets patient demand.

You wish you didn't have to call out Dr Moneybags yet again-but at least he understands you can't get to the surgery, and unfailingly attends when you ask, even though he still makes his regular weekly visit, and always has a cheery smile and words of consolation and encouragement.

It's no consolation though, when he explains that those 'courtesy' visits are having to stop. Apparently more deserving patients have to be seen at surgery in increasing numbers during longer hours. He says the government claim that's what the important people want, and apparently he can see half a dozen of them in the time it takes to visit me.

Oh and he says he gets paid a nice wee extra fee for freezing off warts, and so on, but nothing for visiting me.

Mind you those warty ones, and the ones who need their pill prescriptions at 7.45 p.m. are apparently too busy to attend 'normal' surgery hours.

Too busy out working and making money I'm told.

I wish I could still go out to work.

I wish I could still be here at the next election too.


mortonjag 2008-03-25 07:16:54
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 25 2008, 12:52 AM) [snapback]425048[/snapback]
Doesn't make him bad person though, or does it? laugh.gif

Nope just a 46 year old ex-ginger baldy headed dwarf, with three houses, who waffles in Walloon.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 07:19:57
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 24 2008, 11:51 PM) [snapback]425027[/snapback]
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Llamaburgers are the answer.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 07:23:06 Many happy returns. I'd love to say that in Gaelic but I'd need to brush up my Erse first!
mortonjag 2008-03-25 07:30:40
QUOTE(ThornwoodTon @ Mar 25 2008, 02:46 AM) [snapback]425054[/snapback]
It will happen one day. We wont get relegated this season (pauese for deep positive breath...), and I would say give us 3-5 years under Irons and Collins and we'll be challenging for spl promotion.

This is all fine and well for the youngsters!

Mr Rae will be in his eighties (or elsewhere) very soon.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 07:32:09
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 25 2008, 06:09 AM) [snapback]425063[/snapback]
Don't remember seeing him play for Livi the last time we played them.
The difference a pair of boots can make ? ! ? !

Sir Joshua Belisha would have blushed in embarrassment.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 07:38:08 Mainly I miss seeing goals-remember them- but I also sadly regret the passing of the smell of the old Stand Lavvy.

OK I admit that the mix of thick black pipe tobacco smoke and alcohol laced urine was an 'acquired taste', but it was inimitably Cappielow.

Oh-and I miss Andy Ritchie.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 08:45:08
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 25 2008, 08:36 AM) [snapback]425080[/snapback]
If what you say is true then I apologise sincerely for any part that I've played in 'taunting' you. If it is not, then congratulations, you've got us all squirming with shame (well me, anyway). Next time you're home I'll be happy to buy you a pint. biggrin.gif

Don't believe a word of it-he doesn't suffer from 'dwarfism' (I use the word correctly) at all, and he knows it, but he chose to describe himself as a 'dwarf'-his word-not mine. Genuine dwarves may feel a bit grumpy about this.

Mind you if he cares to post a personal picture-preferably naked- in support of his claim, I shall make a dispassionate diagnosis.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 08:54:58
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 25 2008, 08:50 AM) [snapback]425083[/snapback]
Do the English love us or hate us? Do they even know we're here? Has devolution and talk of independence changed the way they view Scotland? Hardeep Singh Kohli investigates the fond yet increasingly fractious relationship between the Scots and our southern neighbours with help from Jeremy Paxman, Yorkshire poet Ian McMillan and First Minister Alex Salmond.

I'm almost tempted Spurtle-maybe a couple of Maxolon at 10 p.m. could make viewing possible.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 09:01:20
QUOTE(ian clinging @ Mar 25 2008, 09:00 AM) [snapback]425087[/snapback]
Off to East Stirlingshire

On holiday?
mortonjag 2008-03-25 09:08:52
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 25 2008, 08:55 AM) [snapback]425085[/snapback]
Whatever, as I said, if he doesn't, it's been a good wind up.

He's an intelligent (well sort of) chap DE. If he really suffered from clinical 'dwarfism' he would not have used the word inappropriately as a neologism.

There are two types of dwarf-achondroplastic-in which the torso is of normal size but the limbs are short, (achondroplastic dwarves were often employed in circuses) and pituitary dwarfism-Tom Thumb type dwarves who are perfectly proportioned.

The Brussels smout is just that!
mortonjag 2008-03-25 09:18:32
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 25 2008, 09:11 AM) [snapback]425091[/snapback]
Take 10cc tongue.gif

We tend to use mls. rather than c.c.'s bracken bum.

10mls of metoclopramide syrup would equate to two tablets!


Here to help wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-25 09:22:27
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 25 2008, 09:17 AM) [snapback]425093[/snapback]
One of the advantages of being a bit older - my fully comp car insurance with a protected NCD is just under £200 for a 2.5 litre Audi, and not much more for my MX5.

I have insurance from Tesco, although I suspect they won't touch anyone under 25. Confused.com and suchlike are good for comparing prices, and BTW if you go through a broker you'll probbaly pay a good bit more to cover commission.

I used Confused.com two years ago and got a great quote from More>than

My renewal premium was still competitive but I thought I could beat it, so I shopped around again.

Lo and behold the best quote was with-----More>than.

I 'phoned them, and they happily dropped the price.

Haggle! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-25 09:24:19
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 25 2008, 09:16 AM) [snapback]425092[/snapback]
Did it help that the bloke is worth reportedly worth A$1.2 billion ???

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Australian model Kristy Hinze says she was instantly attracted to her 63-year-old boyfriend, Texan billionaire Jim Clark, by his intelligence.

The 27-year-old granddaughter of the late Queensland politician Russ Hinze has been dating Clark, the founder of Netscape, for two-and-a-half years.

The pair were tight-lipped about their relationship until now, but Hinze has told Australian Women's Weekly she was instantly attracted to the thrice-married entrepreneur.
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=417215

This phenomenon is not as rare as you may imagine! wink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-25 09:35:51
QUOTE(midTONs @ Mar 25 2008, 09:20 AM) [snapback]425096[/snapback]
General Nonsense with this p!sh.

Agreed-it's just not cricket.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 10:40:09
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 25 2008, 09:58 AM) [snapback]425101[/snapback]
I was actually responding to your question. You asked if I really was a 'ginger dwarf' which is Tom's preferred personal insult when referring to me, which he uses frequently. Dwarfism is however not the term I personally would use to descibe my particular condition, which I'd rather not discuss in detail on a public forum, but I'm sure you already know that 'dwarfism' encompasses many types of growth disorders.

Tom's met me (he still owes me a pint I seem to remember) and he is the one who likes to descibes me as a 'dwarf'. You must have been a really special doctor if you could make a diagnosis on someone you've never even met, it was surely a great loss to the Medical Profession when you retired.

I may well have used the term 'dwarfism' to refer to those who have an irrational hatred for dwarfs and not the medical condition, and for that I apologise.

I'm still not ginger though. smile.gif

Well-was I correct or not- you're a wriggly little chap-slithery with it!

ARE you a dwarf or are you not?

You don't have to discuss anything in detail on a public forum.

Don't forget you asked a similar question about my mental health! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-25 10:41:24
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 25 2008, 10:16 AM) [snapback]425105[/snapback]
that kohli guy's a tosser, so i won't be watching.

It's Bawheid who makes me Sikh.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 11:03:33
QUOTE(BlueTube @ Mar 25 2008, 10:50 AM) [snapback]425111[/snapback]
Well what do you make of this??

[attachment=3868:Bush_and...er_Bunny.jpg]

Big ears meets Noddy.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 11:06:21
QUOTE(BlueTube @ Mar 25 2008, 10:48 AM) [snapback]425110[/snapback]
I am glad this is more clear in my mind. I wasn't aware why they were checking the cars and drivers. If it was because of the lack of access for a disabled person then well done the plods. I was basically annoyed that they were doing it after all these years. I wasn't arguing with the fact that they were doing it just annoyed that there didn't seem to be any reason for suddenly picking on the drivers. Many thanks for the info.

Next home game they've scheduled spot checks on wheelchair tyres and brakes, as a pedestrian was apparently knocked over on Saturday! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-25 11:36:05
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 25 2008, 11:12 AM) [snapback]425118[/snapback]
It depends what doctor you speak to. As you know 'dwarfism' is a general term that encompasses many different types and severity of growth disorder, so there's not a simple 'yes' or 'no' answer to that. I'd say that I'm not a dwarf, but there are some doctors who would disagree.

Indeed I did, and I seem to remember that far from than ridiculing you I in fact congratulated you in your openness and honesty and I offered you my best wishes in your fight to control the illness, both of which still stand.

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You were, as always, very courteous, and I extend the same to you. If you are indeed shorter than 4' 10", we may agree to describe you as a 'dwarf' if you wish, though I prefer the term 'little person' for such people who have no specific genetic disorder.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 11:38:01
QUOTE(BlueTube @ Mar 25 2008, 11:18 AM) [snapback]425120[/snapback]
laugh.gif ohmy.gif Sick mate.

Not really-have you seen yon' Irn Bru advert?
mortonjag 2008-03-25 11:40:55
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 25 2008, 11:35 AM) [snapback]425123[/snapback]
So has he signed or whit ?

whit
mortonjag 2008-03-25 11:41:47
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 25 2008, 11:41 AM) [snapback]425129[/snapback]
You can call me whatever you want MJ, it's water off a duck's back.

OK Daffy.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 11:44:41
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Mar 25 2008, 11:42 AM) [snapback]425131[/snapback]
KFC on the corner of Renfield Street is quite good, even has tomotao ketchup, unlike the Greenock one.

Sounds finger lickin' exotic!
mortonjag 2008-03-25 13:48:58
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 25 2008, 12:35 PM) [snapback]425143[/snapback]
I was going to be a tree surgeon, but I couldn't stand the sight of sap ! tongue.gif

C'mon someone had to say it !

..even if you're obsessed with your roots.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 13:52:24
QUOTE(.:BrIDo:. @ Mar 25 2008, 01:40 PM) [snapback]425160[/snapback]
Heard they had dead dogs in the freezer and that's why they had to shut down. tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-25 13:59:35 dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-25 14:09:18
QUOTE(dazed @ Mar 25 2008, 02:01 PM) [snapback]425168[/snapback]
Hmmmmm, Four reports in fourteen years, 10 of which had a labour Government in the UK and since its arrival, in power in the Scottish Government until May last year, all highlighting a total lack of progress,yet you choose to attack the SNP government for its 10 months in office? If anybody has been fibbing about the NHS its the Labour party, with their manipulated targets!

While I would agree with a lot of what you have to say your blinkered critiscism does your argument no favours.
I too hope Im around for the next election and also hope the Labour party gets a bloody good hiding this time, they deserve it!

IMHO little Nickerless has taken a step BACKWARDS with her attention seeking pandering to so called 'service users'.

Never ever have I praised the Labour Government's handling of the NHS, nor the Tory's for that matter.

I had simply hoped for some honesty and improvement from our home grow lot, and am frankly disgusted.

Would you like to comment on the points made in my original post?
mortonjag 2008-03-25 14:18:57
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Mar 25 2008, 02:12 PM) [snapback]425173[/snapback]
None of them, to be honest. He hasn't done anything whatsoever to suggest he is either a good player or a bad player, his attitude is disgraceful and he should be benched for a few weeks until he realises that he is actually going to have to make a bit of effort. When he does that, then we'll be able to decide what he has to offer, but until then, f*** him.

Jenkins though, shows in spells what he is capabable of, and does actually seem to look a wee bit unfit at times. I think he has so much more to offer, but I definitely wouldn't drop him as he still influences the game even when he isn't at his best imo. He does, however, need to buckle down and graft for the full 90 minutes instead of just wee spells in the game.

I've heard this suggested a few times now. If indeed this is the case, why is Irons playing him?
mortonjag 2008-03-25 14:28:17
QUOTE(simple_ton @ Mar 25 2008, 02:16 PM) [snapback]425176[/snapback]
Think you'll find there was more than one Tory involved in previous administrations! Sorrry MJ, the apostrophe fascist in me couldn't help myself - still, I'd expect better from a man of your brilliance laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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Oh I spotted that the minute I typed it and knew some smart arse would pick me up on it!


Never ever have I praised the Labour Government's handling of the NHS, nor the Tory's for that matter.


Still confused?


Anyway, that's the second post having the usual wee dig at me when I highlight the crass inefficiency and blundering naivety of that upstart politician.

That, despite the simple presentation of hard fact.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 14:35:47
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Mar 25 2008, 02:25 PM) [snapback]425184[/snapback]
I don't really think it has been suggested, all you have to do is watch him every time he plays for us. Arrogant, lazy, disinterested, useless.

I agree he's been a big disappointment to me, but why is Irons playing him if his attitude's wrong?
mortonjag 2008-03-25 14:40:34
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Mar 25 2008, 02:33 PM) [snapback]425188[/snapback]
Just wondering if anyone has an answer?

Jesus' father was 'God'.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 15:08:27
QUOTE(simple_ton @ Mar 25 2008, 02:47 PM) [snapback]425196[/snapback]
What would you recommend we do then? Who should we vote for to get the improvements you're seeking? Which party specifically commits itself to addressing the issues that you've mentioned? Give us a positive suggestion rather than just go off one one. Your points are very valid, but IMHO you do your argument no favours by letting it deteriorate int a personal attack on Nicola Sturgeon - as a previous poster has already pointed out, SNP have only had power for a very small portion of the time covered by these report's. (Have left a rogue apostrophe for you to get me back on wink.gif )

That depends on exactly whom you define as 'we'.

I recommend that 'service users' listen to grass roots NHS workers for a start, instead of 'rubbishing' them every time they tell the truth about successive government bungling.

Many posters had a 'field day' when I raised the topic of yet another unilaterally enforced 'G.P. contract', (Sturgeon simulating Tory Kenneth Clarke in 1990)-by putting the boot into 'lazy and greedy' G.P.s.

When, however, I give a real life example of how those in genuine need are suffering as a result of expedient political meddling, there is a deafening silence.

It would certainly be refreshing to hear at least one or two decent folk supporting the notion that General Practitioners know better than rookie M.P.s what is best for patients.

mortonjag 2008-03-25 15:16:11
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Mar 25 2008, 02:49 PM) [snapback]425197[/snapback]
So was Joseph just Marys Bidey In then?
And if this God guy was the faither, how can it be a virgin birth?
Methinks Mary was at it!

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God was the father, but he didn't use his Holy Willie, so she was a virgin.

Joseph was only too happy that they moved up the housing list to bother that much.

God works in a mysterious way, his wonders to perform Paddy-I'm sure the Cardinal could give a more detailed explanation.

mortonjag 2008-03-25 15:17:20
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 25 2008, 03:11 PM) [snapback]425204[/snapback]
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Right ya bunch of bawbags, as soon as I get home I'm uploading a photie to settle this ginger thing once and for all.

You have been warned. tongue.gif

Will it say 'reduced by 50%'?
mortonjag 2008-03-25 15:23:24
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 25 2008, 03:21 PM) [snapback]425214[/snapback]
Absolutely nothing, some of my best friends are ginger.

Sad is the man who lists his pubes among his friends.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 15:24:58
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 25 2008, 03:19 PM) [snapback]425212[/snapback]
Anyone know where I can get my Camcorder fixed locally ? Or if not locally, where else ?

It's a Sony Handycam DVD92E

Colkitto-location unknown-and you'll not get it fixed on Colonsay-that's for sure! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-25 15:27:46
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 25 2008, 03:22 PM) [snapback]425216[/snapback]
You just won't let it lie will you. rolleyes.gif

Cot, petal..whack! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-25 15:29:14
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 25 2008, 03:27 PM) [snapback]425221[/snapback]
Greenock ya daft bassa ! blink.gif

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Try a camera shop then!
mortonjag 2008-03-25 15:43:22
QUOTE(Yoda @ Mar 25 2008, 03:34 PM) [snapback]425226[/snapback]
If Paxman's on you'll need to go straight for the Zolphran cool.gif

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I rarely watch telly those days-just thought this might be a bit of fun, though I agree that his emetic qualities may persist well into Wednesday!
mortonjag 2008-03-25 16:07:05
QUOTE(simple_ton @ Mar 25 2008, 03:48 PM) [snapback]425232[/snapback]
I'm certainly not arguing that MPs know any better than GPs or any other NHS employees for that matter. My ex has been working in NHS for over 25 years so I do have some idea of the issues faced by all NHS staff, not just GPs. But my question remains unanswered - what exactly do you propose that I, or anybody else, does to remedy the situation. I would have thought voting out a government that dedcates untold billions to illegal wars & weapons of mass destruction would be a step in the right direction, but you would seem to disagree?

You've not been reading my posts then-I despised the Labour stranglehold in Scotland-I was happy to see the SNP in power, but unlike many, I have no strong political allegiance-indeed I despise all politics and politicians-though I accept some form of government as a 'necessary evil'. I'm bitterly disappointed in this new lot, and particularly in their abuse of the NHS.

The first step that any thinking person can take is to accept the fact that the NHS never could, and never will meet 'demand'. Sturgeon is saying exactly the opposite. What does she take us for?

Lloyd George got it wrong, and it's been an embarrassment to successive governments ever since.

People are far too quick to claim that 'they know their rights' without actually thinking of the implications.

There's no easy solution, and no quick one either-I firmly believe that folk will gradually be forced more and more into private health schemes as the NHS continues to fail to meet REAL need.

Sturgeon should be thoroughly ashamed of herself, but politicians don't do 'ashamed'-do they? dry.gif

mortonjag 2008-03-25 16:12:51
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Mar 25 2008, 04:06 PM) [snapback]425236[/snapback]
thers a pount do motibility scooters need rd tax








There are 250,000 mobility scooters believed to currently be used in Britain

Loading the weekly shop as they glide up and down the supermarket aisle, Britain's 250,000 mobility scooter owners make unlikely law breakers.

But while they have little in common with teenage joyriders - the scooters, after all, have a top speed of just 8mph - most of the mainly middle-aged, respectable owners are in fact riding their electric-powered carts illegally.

Users are inadvertently breaking the law by failing to register the scooters with the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (DVLA).

The Mail on Sunday has discovered that many of the machines, which have caused a spate of accidents involving pedestrians and shoppers, are required by law to have either a tax disc or exemption certificate. Nor are most of them insured.

But local authorities and the police are failing to enforce the law - allowing ever-larger and increasingly sophisticated scooters to cause mayhem on pavements and shopping centres, where scooters are allowed up the aisles of shops.

MPs and safety campaigners have now called for the industry to be brought under control and for the DVLA to stop turning a blind eye to what amounts to a mass evasion of the road tax and safety regulations.

Originally intended as aids for the severely disabled, mobility scooters are now used by people with a much wider variety of ailments, including breathing problems, rheumatism and obesity.

Some suggest that a few are used by those who simply do not want to walk.


However, there is no requirement for the vehicles, many of which are second-hand and poorly maintained, to undergo any form of safety check. And users are free to start riding on the pavement or the road without any training, health assessment or eyesight check. Insurance is voluntary, which means anyone hurt in an accident has little chance of winning financial compensation.

There is no need to be registered disabled or to even be an OAP. The only qualification is that the user must be over 14 years old. Amid concern that some illegally-imported 'souped-up' scooters, capable of higher speeds, are in circulation, manufacturers ape the motor industry in an attempt to shed the 'disabled' tag and present their products, which sell for up to £6,000, as attractive leisure accessories. One top-of-the-range model is advertised as a 'long-range luxury' machine that 'delivers a superb performance and ease of use with sleek styling for an overall package that impresses with elegance and simplicity'.

But with a 26st scooter capable of carrying a weight of up to 39st - plus the weekly shopping in a specially-fitted basket - critics say the vehicles pose a potentially lethal threat to pedestrians.

A shopper was taken to hospital earlier this year after being knocked down by a mobility scooter in a Sainsbury's store in Exeter. And in 2004, the most recent year for which figures are available, there were a reported 1,134 incidents involving scooters, including the deaths of eight riders who were hit by cars or lorries on the open road.

Last night Ray Hodgkinson, director general of the industry body the British Healthcare Trades Association, said: 'They should be licensed just like any other vehicle under the Road Traffic Act. If they're on the road, they should have lights and indicators.

'We have a responsibility as an industry to make sure users are properly instructed. After all, these things can be lethal.'

Liberal Democrat MP Bob Russell, who has campaigned on the issue, said: 'The law in this area is extremely muddled.

'I welcome the mobility these machines give to the elderly and disabled but with freedom must come responsibility.

'We need some form of regulation - not to create another level of bureaucracy - but for the safety of users and the general public.'

A spokesman for the Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents said: 'We have received a number of complaints about these scooters.

'We feel there should be a minimum requirement for third-party insurance and some training.'

The Department for Transport said: 'We are currently reviewing the rules that govern the use of these vehicles. We believe that the vast majority of users operate their vehicles safely and legally.'

Asked why the law was not being applied to scooter users, the spokesman said: 'That is a matter for local authorities and the police.'


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mortonjag 2008-03-25 16:17:16
QUOTE(midTONs @ Mar 25 2008, 04:08 PM) [snapback]425238[/snapback]
I thought DDF was away this week so any signing whilst still possible would be unlikely in my opinion, but maybe I'm wrong.

Where is he off to?
mortonjag 2008-03-25 16:27:40
QUOTE(midTONs @ Mar 25 2008, 04:19 PM) [snapback]425246[/snapback]
I never asked.

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s***ebag
mortonjag 2008-03-25 16:30:31
QUOTE(midTONs @ Mar 25 2008, 04:28 PM) [snapback]425253[/snapback]
You want his mobile number? laugh.gif

Can he use a mobile?

...apart from the one suspended within his four poster!
mortonjag 2008-03-25 16:34:26
QUOTE(irvineTON @ Mar 25 2008, 04:31 PM) [snapback]425256[/snapback]
Might be down to the fact that we aren't too good defensively!! wink.gif

I suspect that might be a definite possibility.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 17:23:16
QUOTE(simple_ton @ Mar 25 2008, 04:50 PM) [snapback]425264[/snapback]
Think you're hitting the nail right on the head with that statement - too many people placing needless demands on the service. The resources are always going to be finite, so they should be more effectively targetted to those who genuinely require them.

Not sure that all the blame can be laid at politicians' door for that one - regardless of party.

I agree entirely that politicians 'have their hands tied' with the NHS-no government craves unpopularity-but Ms Sturgeon seems to have gone out of her way to deliberately ignore the opinions and advice of experience in announcing her 'all new Scottish NHS which would meet demand without further involvement of the private sector'.

If ever there was a contradiction in terms that is it.

People who genuinely want a successful independent Scotland would IMHO be well advised to come down off cloud nine and scrutinise the long term damage this foolish young woman is causing.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 17:27:54
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 25 2008, 04:42 PM) [snapback]425260[/snapback]
Another question nicely avoided

*queue one smilie reply* wink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-25 17:38:04
QUOTE(Greacenonmyass @ Mar 25 2008, 04:49 PM) [snapback]425263[/snapback]
The pair of them use the same username ending in Jag ph34r.gif [attachment=3871:dsc_0060__4_.jpg]

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Not as smart as you think-CREEP!

Good try mind.

Russell's Muscles, Mortonfag, and now this clown. dry.gif

Mortonjag is extremely handsome and looks less than half his age.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 17:54:15
QUOTE(C B @ Mar 25 2008, 05:49 PM) [snapback]425283[/snapback]
You think these clowns would realise theres a monkey sat next to you every week ! rolleyes.gif

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True!
mortonjag 2008-03-25 18:00:15
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 25 2008, 05:55 PM) [snapback]425290[/snapback]
Maybe he is away for the pies!!!

He brings his own nuts.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 18:04:51
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 25 2008, 06:01 PM) [snapback]425298[/snapback]
pretty snide posting pics of people on the messageboard without their permission imo

I agree forza, to say nothing of exposing those poor people to the risk of unwarranted personal assault!
mortonjag 2008-03-25 18:08:19
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 25 2008, 05:51 PM) [snapback]425286[/snapback]
I seem to remember he was pulled up by the cooncil for being a dodgy landlord. That wouldn't prejudice my thinking of course. He's a tosser alright. laugh.gif

When I was a child the only collie I'd heard of was 'Black Bob'.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 18:24:33
QUOTE(simple_ton @ Mar 25 2008, 04:50 PM) [snapback]425264[/snapback]
Think you're hitting the nail right on the head with that statement - too many people placing needless demands on the service. The resources are always going to be finite, so they should be more effectively targetted to those who genuinely require them.

Not sure that all the blame can be laid at politicians' door for that one - regardless of party.

edit: Just curious - who are the selfish people you're refering to in your sub-heading?

They come in all shapes and sizes, colours, and denominations ST.

I have frequently estimated over the years that some 20% of a G.P.s patients occupy some 80% of his time. Within that 20% there is invariably a core of genuinely needy souls with chronic or recurrent illness.

The rest I describe as 'selfish'. I already mentioned the term-'I know my rights'-used more often than not by people totally ignorant of them.

Undemanding people have every right to be upset and disappointed when the service falls short of their expectation. They are not, however, entitled to apportion blame without access to the truth.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 18:28:16
QUOTE(midTONs @ Mar 25 2008, 06:12 PM) [snapback]425302[/snapback]
You were reading to many comic books.

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I loved 'Black Bob', though I've discovered over the years that collies tend to be a bit sleekit. You can't beat a black lab bitch, nor will ever need to.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 18:32:10
QUOTE(The Bewilderedbeast @ Mar 25 2008, 06:27 PM) [snapback]425311[/snapback]
and I think that most of them have clipped my ankles at one time or another......................

I can confirm that there was NO mince talked on Saturday regarding the disabled person falling off his scooter

I love the signature-makes me think of your favourite political party's roadshow!
mortonjag 2008-03-25 18:33:10
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 25 2008, 06:26 PM) [snapback]425310[/snapback]
You guys, what are you like? rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-25 18:35:46
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 25 2008, 06:12 PM) [snapback]425303[/snapback]
is it being suggested that DDFR has a cell phone ??

reminds me of the lonely prisoner.

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or the naughty nucleus.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 18:40:40
QUOTE(The Bewilderedbeast @ Mar 25 2008, 06:36 PM) [snapback]425319[/snapback]
I picked up a kids top for my nephew at the van on Saturday for £10, and was given the choice of a free gift....a callender or a stationary set, plumped for the stationary set as it was for a wee boy anyway.

Said stationary set contains a metal pencil case, two pens, two pencils, a rubber amd a pencil sharpener, all with the Morton crest on them, not bad I thought it must sell for around £3/£4.

Not a bit of it, it carried a price tag of £10 on the rear, no wonder they weren't selling at that price!!!

Still a home top and said stationary set both for a tenner wasn't bad

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mortonjag 2008-03-25 18:47:55
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 25 2008, 06:45 PM) [snapback]425323[/snapback]
stop it now, its getting tedious.

My religion may be making me do bad things.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 18:54:48
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 25 2008, 06:51 PM) [snapback]425326[/snapback]
I actually thought Kholi was good in this

Question Time

Sorry Spurtle I did see the bloke in a pink bunnet but after ten seconds of Bawheid I was forced to switch it off.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 19:03:58
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 25 2008, 06:51 PM) [snapback]425327[/snapback]
Don't you hate me when i tell the truth?
edit : edited for better comeback (although not all that much better) tongue.gif

I hate nobody-life's too short for hatred.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 19:05:08
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 25 2008, 07:03 PM) [snapback]425334[/snapback]
well the thread starter has 5 hours before he gets a boot in the goolies by over 1000 people. laugh.gif

...in twenty seconds.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 19:08:31
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 25 2008, 06:56 PM) [snapback]425332[/snapback]
i think ultimately the players we have are so afraid of losing games that they get so nervous that they can't play their usual game.

when we go a goal up they are scared of losing a goal and they get nervous, usually meaning we'll end up conceding.

when we go a goal down, they're so nervous of losing the game that they panic, usually meaning we end up losing.

our players need to learn how to control the game after we've taken the lead and how to not panic when we're a goal behind.

We still lack a 'driving force' in the side-somebody that will keep us going for 90 minutes-irrespective of the score. Popularly known as 'an old head in the boilerhouse'.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 19:15:16
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 25 2008, 07:12 PM) [snapback]425341[/snapback]
20 seconds per 1000 people.

That's gonna be quite a long baw-booting! Hope I'm not near the back of the queue!

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mortonjag 2008-03-25 19:16:33
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 25 2008, 07:13 PM) [snapback]425343[/snapback]
You just fck wee boys? blink.gif

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Be well warned son!
mortonjag 2008-03-25 19:19:18
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 25 2008, 07:16 PM) [snapback]425347[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-03-25 19:22:02
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 25 2008, 07:20 PM) [snapback]425352[/snapback]
Quite fun twisting posts to make people say what you want them to say eh smile.gif

Whatever you say!
mortonjag 2008-03-25 19:23:22
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 25 2008, 07:21 PM) [snapback]425353[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-03-25 19:25:14
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 25 2008, 07:21 PM) [snapback]425354[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-03-25 19:54:41
QUOTE(standman @ Mar 25 2008, 07:50 PM) [snapback]425372[/snapback]
Going to the match doesn't have the same feel anymore...maybe it's partly to do with all the points raised in the first posters message.

It's different now...but not better.

Maybe it's when all of a sudden you realise you've spent the last twenty years hoping for Premier League Football and come to the conclusion that it probably will never happen.

Especially when you've maybe got less than twenty left! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-25 20:02:22
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 25 2008, 08:00 PM) [snapback]425380[/snapback]
Aitken is having yet another great season. I believe he has scored more goals than our forwards so far. That is some achivement for a midfielder.
Pity we don't go for part time players as he has not looked out of place in this league. In fact has looked a very good player indeed at this level. That's more than can be said for some ex SPL prima donna players !

The driving force we need?
mortonjag 2008-03-25 20:03:11
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Mar 25 2008, 08:01 PM) [snapback]425381[/snapback]
I see McInally's men are 1 up v Sons

Sons to win then! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-25 20:06:48
QUOTE(scott_lithgows @ Mar 25 2008, 08:02 PM) [snapback]425384[/snapback]
The half time score,s being put up at the Sinclair st end where the cal-mac advert is now,with the code letters being in the match programme.

Indeed-watching the guy on the ladder, and the barracking he ocasionally took from the crowd when he made a mistake and had to change the numbers!
mortonjag 2008-03-25 20:18:38
QUOTE(Marc @ Mar 25 2008, 08:17 PM) [snapback]425389[/snapback]
0-1 Clyde sad.gif Bradley (30)

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mortonjag 2008-03-25 20:20:36
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 25 2008, 08:18 PM) [snapback]425391[/snapback]
Come on St Johnstone!!

Clyde ARE pish mind!
mortonjag 2008-03-25 20:21:46
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Mar 25 2008, 08:20 PM) [snapback]425394[/snapback]
If things don't change then you may as well re-arrange the following sentance

up creek s*** paddel a without

Clyde will be defeated though Stirling may get the draw.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 20:24:40
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Mar 25 2008, 08:23 PM) [snapback]425399[/snapback]
Worse case scenario is Stirling to pick up more points as we lose our games, hopefully not unsure.gif

Moore the magician?
mortonjag 2008-03-25 20:27:16
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Mar 25 2008, 08:25 PM) [snapback]425402[/snapback]
Stirling seem to pick up points in certain games where as we are buckling at times

Moore certainly gets much from little.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 20:33:56
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 25 2008, 08:30 PM) [snapback]425408[/snapback]
True.

Clyde obviously struggling-only a matter of time.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 21:04:28
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Mar 25 2008, 09:02 PM) [snapback]425462[/snapback]
Not a case of thanking any of the other teams, we are where we are because we deserve to be. We need to win our OWN games but thats a BIG ask when it comes to Morton

We needed to win at Broadwood-many were happy with the draw!


St Johnstone are either at it or just leaving it late mind you!!!
mortonjag 2008-03-25 21:06:28
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 25 2008, 09:03 PM) [snapback]425467[/snapback]
2-1 biggrin.gif

Plenty time--f*ck Clyde!
mortonjag 2008-03-25 21:08:12
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 25 2008, 09:06 PM) [snapback]425476[/snapback]
we needed to win against partick and livingston, and we didnt. a draw was a decent result against clyde but lets not get into that tongue.gif

Was it f*ck but let's not go into that-Cyde are s***-the Saints will win!
mortonjag 2008-03-25 21:11:30 Still 25 mins left at Perth!
mortonjag 2008-03-25 21:14:25
QUOTE(simple_ton @ Mar 25 2008, 09:10 PM) [snapback]425482[/snapback]
Hey guys - just found a pic I took of CHC last time he was ovr!

Lee O'Sayer Robinson!
mortonjag 2008-03-25 21:17:42
QUOTE(standman @ Mar 25 2008, 08:42 PM) [snapback]425416[/snapback]
Hey dude, I'm not that old !!!

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mortonjag 2008-03-25 21:18:50
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Mar 25 2008, 09:09 PM) [snapback]425480[/snapback]
Hey, I'm only human.

He's lovable BH!
mortonjag 2008-03-25 21:20:43
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Mar 25 2008, 09:17 PM) [snapback]425495[/snapback]
Stirling now losing 3-2 to the Pars, Kevin Harper with a hat-trick

It's coming together!
mortonjag 2008-03-25 21:23:42 Plenty of time-c'mon McInnes-get the subs on!
mortonjag 2008-03-25 21:25:25
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 25 2008, 09:24 PM) [snapback]425510[/snapback]
FT Stirling 2-3 Dunfermline
Surely all but resigns Stirling to relegation.

C'MON THE SAINTS!!!
mortonjag 2008-03-25 21:27:36 JM still winning! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-25 21:29:05
QUOTE(Marc @ Mar 25 2008, 09:28 PM) [snapback]425514[/snapback]
Nope..

1-1

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NOTHING changes for the man with the folded arms!
mortonjag 2008-03-25 21:31:17
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 25 2008, 09:30 PM) [snapback]425520[/snapback]
2-2 at McDiarmid Park. smile.gif

Mortonjag COMMANDS you to win, DM-just dae it!
mortonjag 2008-03-25 21:34:02 [b]
EFFIN SCORE
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mortonjag 2008-03-25 21:36:45
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Mar 25 2008, 09:34 PM) [snapback]425528[/snapback]
c'mon mcinnes! do one for your old pals!! rolleyes.gif

Aye his golfin' buddy too by the sound of things! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-25 21:40:30
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 25 2008, 09:38 PM) [snapback]425545[/snapback]
WE ARE STAYING UP!

Mibbees aye-Mr Rae was saying in his programme notes last Saturday that he doesn't want Gretna to go to the wall!
mortonjag 2008-03-25 21:47:48
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 25 2008, 09:43 PM) [snapback]425561[/snapback]
Clyde have 1 point more and -19 GD We can still pick up points on them! and there's not much in the GD. Livvy's GD is out of sight at -8 but their record against the rest of the league is very poor.

We can still do it!

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Very true.

Expensive outing that one to Broadwood. Far too many excuses for an inexcusable result.

Chickens coming home to roost for Auld Shoogly, or is this what he wants?

Can DI pull one out of the hat at Palmerston

Is there any reason to be cheerful?

Is there any reason to be glum?

Will that bloody administrator please switch on the liquidiser?
mortonjag 2008-03-25 21:50:48
QUOTE(mentalton @ Mar 25 2008, 09:47 PM) [snapback]425570[/snapback]
We will NOT win if in a playoff situation, how many "must win" games have we fu@ked up so far, every one.

Satan is in our camp I tell you.

NEVER a truer word spoken and I know his identity.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 21:55:41
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Mar 25 2008, 09:53 PM) [snapback]425585[/snapback]
laugh.gifKnowing you he is someone who own a company that makes crap sweets.

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mortonjag 2008-03-25 21:56:50
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Mar 25 2008, 09:55 PM) [snapback]425588[/snapback]
Mainly McInally. I don't see how Rae can be blamed for this mess.

GROW UP
mortonjag 2008-03-25 22:00:09
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Mar 25 2008, 08:32 PM) [snapback]425409[/snapback]
"Midfielder Fabian Yantorno was released on Monday as the club could not afford the treatment required for a knee injury picked up in January."

sad news indeed to hear a player getting in that predicament.

just for mj sad.gif

A young lad who came over here all starry eyed. Just shows what happens when buffoons are allowed full control of fitba' clubs. mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-25 22:03:59
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 25 2008, 10:00 PM) [snapback]425597[/snapback]
If it weren't for McInally resigning that fool would still be giving him full support.
His hands-on approach regarding transfers is known, so the inactivity during much of the summer can be criticised also.

Rae wanted JM to stay-Rae wants Gretna to remain in business-Rae again signs two 'awful nice' relative rookies-Rae is difficult to understand.

I'm past trying.

Are you up for it? wacko.gif wacko.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-25 22:08:19
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Mar 25 2008, 10:03 PM) [snapback]425601[/snapback]
I doubt Irons will be told who to bring in, or that any 'Dougie transfers' will be made from under him.
It was JM's failing that he had no authority at Morton.

GROW UP
mortonjag 2008-03-25 22:12:52
QUOTE(ianton @ Mar 25 2008, 10:05 PM) [snapback]425607[/snapback]
mj would blame rae if he farted.he's best on ignore.he's got to hide behind a keyboard to slate him.he had his chance to say what he wanted last week and bottled it.so why listen to the ramblings of an old fool.

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If only you knew the full story.


IF F*CKING ONLY

Today I received a copy of an e-mail which would wipe that daft leer of your face. And NO I won't be breaching confidentiality, so I'll call myself a liar to save all the children the bother, but two or three folk know EXACTLY what I'm talking about.

RAE HAS BECOME A LIABILITY. Plain and simple.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 22:15:45
QUOTE(div @ Mar 25 2008, 10:07 PM) [snapback]425610[/snapback]
McGuffie, Jenkins, Irons, Collins, Innes.

I see a pattern developing here.

Morton, living the (second hand) dream tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-25 22:21:16
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 25 2008, 10:15 PM) [snapback]425622[/snapback]
you got an email offering you viagra at a competative price didnt you?

its just Junk mail MJ, dont waste your hard earned money please. sad.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

It was actually a copy of some official correspondence concerning GMFC young man.

I do not describe Mr Rae as 'a liability' for nothing. It is my considered opinion, and takes into account the amusingly remote possibility of civil action. Mortonjag does not lie.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 22:24:41
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Mar 25 2008, 10:17 PM) [snapback]425624[/snapback]
Grow up.

You disbelieve me as predicted.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 22:26:18
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 25 2008, 10:21 PM) [snapback]425632[/snapback]
unsure.gif I'm glad he didn't.

Very true-they are after all, only impressionable young boys.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 22:26:52
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Mar 25 2008, 10:21 PM) [snapback]425633[/snapback]
...And fork out how much of his own money, exactly?

Whose money?
mortonjag 2008-03-25 22:28:14
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 25 2008, 10:23 PM) [snapback]425635[/snapback]
Shouldn't that be 'extremely remote' ?

No DE-I'm sure the Tilly report would give rise to a great deal of amusement! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-25 22:42:43
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 25 2008, 10:29 PM) [snapback]425642[/snapback]
Rae chooses the management.
Rae has considerable influence of player signing policy.
Rae came out with neutralising garbage like this during the close season:
http://www.gmfc.net/chairman/news-view.asp?page=14&

Rae felt we only needed a few to make the step-up.
The "negativity boys" had concerns with this.
"There are none so blind as those who will not see".

He is now a liabiity-plain and simple-what's the score with Alistair Donald-apparently ZILCH-what clout does Crawford have-ZILCH-Arthur and Iain Brown off the Board-Jim McColl a figurehead-and the good ship Shoogly is heading steadily for the rocks.

Does he actually WANT relegation-it's not an unreasonable question to ask. I don't think he really does-he's just so far up his own arse he can't see anything straight when it comes to Morton.


Bring on the usual abuse by all means. Just don't say this demented old s***ebag didn't warn you-three bloody seasons ago.

mortonjag 2008-03-25 22:46:49
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 25 2008, 10:13 PM) [snapback]425618[/snapback]
So you think pink turbans are funny?
Racist. laugh.gif

Queer I'd suggest.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 22:49:53
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 25 2008, 10:45 PM) [snapback]425655[/snapback]
VT as much as I agree with what you have said and DDFR has shown limitations in his leadership , now is not the time for the public lynching .

We can still survive and a new management team who deserve our backing .

After the last ball is kicked and we know our fate then we can argue the pros and cons of DDFR and the McInally debacle .

Clyde got a great result tonight and it shows what we have to do to avoid a play off spot .

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So if we're relegated Chris-are you up for it? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-25 22:54:33
QUOTE(.:BrIDo:. @ Mar 25 2008, 10:50 PM) [snapback]425663[/snapback]
It's the confidence this could instill in clyde and help them go on and win a few more.
Can't see the same confidence in our side at the minute. And if we got to a play offspot. . we'll go down, I reckon.

That worries me too-Irons and Collins appear to have been the last throw of the dice for us.

We'll soon run out of the 'one game at a time ' excuses. Backs to the wall time now and nothing short of three points is enough on Saturday. Clyde managed it tonight.

Will we? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-25 22:57:42
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Mar 25 2008, 10:55 PM) [snapback]425666[/snapback]
so where is the creedance in this rumour, would love to see innes at scappa but i just cant see it. He has now been released so what is the prospect of him lining up for the ton.....................time is running out and I want to book a space in the queue for the baw bootin

There's no queue-it's a scramble.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 23:12:02
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 25 2008, 11:04 PM) [snapback]425677[/snapback]
Ernie , as I posted above . We need to get behind the players and coaches for the remainder of the season . The last thing we want is to convay to the players we have given up the fight .

By no means am I saying that there should not be recriminations for this seasons obvious shortcomings .

I had said before tht he damage had been done and Irons and Collins would need longer . From being at he Q+A last week it ws apparent that Dougie is still holding onto the statement that is was only in the third round of games did we come unstuck . If he fails to see where he is going wrong then the feeling I have is that things will never radically improve as they should .

One thing hat did annoy me from last week was Jim McColl , defending the youth set up when the man never goes anywhere near it to comment on . What is the point of having a fans representative on the board when he happily goes along with things when they clearly are not .

I don't honestly think the players give a flying f*ck any more Chris-I'm sorry-I know you're impressed by the new set up, and I'm not saying DI/DC are necessarily duffers, but Rae's comment when he wept crocodie tears over JM was 'sadly it's a results driven business', and results ain't improving much.

I'll be at Palmerston on Saturday, and I'll be getting right behind the boys as always. Hopefully, for once, they will do something for us.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 23:13:22
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 25 2008, 11:06 PM) [snapback]425680[/snapback]
I've ordered my pitchfork online laugh.gif

That would be most uncivilised surely. I was thinking more in terms of some scaffolding near the top of the Victoria Tower.
mortonjag 2008-03-25 23:17:16
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 25 2008, 10:32 PM) [snapback]425644[/snapback]
been flung aff it a couple of times. humourless twats

I went to school in Paisley-do you think I'd be welcome?
mortonjag 2008-03-26 06:50:44
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 26 2008, 06:46 AM) [snapback]425739[/snapback]
only if you use Paisley grammer

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the "e" was deliberate.

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Or is that Kelsey not Paisley ?

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I'd just call myself Kibbleton!
mortonjag 2008-03-26 06:52:24
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 25 2008, 11:40 PM) [snapback]425708[/snapback]
Probably, but he set it up tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-26 06:57:43
QUOTE(El gofer @ Mar 25 2008, 11:20 PM) [snapback]425693[/snapback]
Eh..... Jim McColl is not a fans rep on the board. He is the rep of the Supporters Trust who are shareholders.

How can you ask whats the score with Alister Donald?.... eff all???!!... The guy has been involved for under 2 months. What exactly are you wanting him to do? What has the club done wrong since he joined the board??
Are you now blaiming Arthur as well?? Do you speak from a position of authority or, as usual are you just pontificating from you ivory tower??

We are going to stay up on the park. With the new management team.
Nothing is going to change behind the scenes before the end of the season.
We need to stay up.
We must get behind the players we have because its in their hands. Scary I know.

Now even though you like saying I told you so and pointing out occasions when this has been the case, can you think of the greater good at this point, please.

CMON THE F4KN TON!!!!

Why does thinking of the GREATER GOOD-your words-prohibit valid questions at any point in a given season?

CMON THE F4KN TON is not the same as CMON AULD F4KKER

That's the whole point!

C'MON YE TON
mortonjag 2008-03-26 07:00:53
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Mar 25 2008, 11:59 PM) [snapback]425720[/snapback]
Ahh, but didnt someone at Morton not that long ago say we are treating every game left like a cup final. So far we have drawn with Clyde, drawn with Livi, lost to Hamilton, drawn with Partick. Doesn't look good i any way whatsoever imo.

Correct Gibby-IF DI/DC were appointed to save us from relegation with the current squad, they're not setting the heather alight.
mortonjag 2008-03-26 07:03:08
QUOTE(El gofer @ Mar 26 2008, 12:16 AM) [snapback]425725[/snapback]
Chrissiboi, with regard to the youth set up I am in total agreement with you. I know you have a vested interest (family??) apart from it just being the ton. I speak to boys and parents involved and know its a joke. I also know the guy involved in the previous winning team ( I work with him,....the other big Joe!)

I just wouldnt put the blame at Jim McColl's door.

Mr Rae has yet to accept the wisdom of a youth set up, or so I'm led to believe.

This may perhaps be a factor of his age. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-26 07:08:48
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 26 2008, 12:37 AM) [snapback]425727[/snapback]
I agree. I had rather hoped that Jenkins might be a driving force in the middle but its not worked out that way - so far. I'm hopeful he'll come good. Our team are no longer a young team but they have all missed having a few experienced hands in the team to bring them on when they were younger and that's why they look a bit naieve, or did do.

The sort of guys I have in mind are the likes of Tosh or McFarlane at QoS, the baldy midfielder at Hamilton who's name escapes me, Rowson at Thistle etc. Innes would be good if we could get him but the sort of man I'm thinking of is usually a midfield general rather than a forward or defender.

Total agreement in that Tonsilitis, and it's only what many have been saying for OVER THREE SEASONS.

Look at Clyde-I've not seen them since Albertz arrived but in the game where they beat us 2-1 they showed the guts required, and now they've the experience of a 38 year od Hun in the armoury too.

I'm praying we stay up, and I'm praying DI/DC come good and are given the freedom they need.

I'm already sensing, however, that things may not have improved as much as we'd hoped.
mortonjag 2008-03-26 07:15:36
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 25 2008, 11:22 PM) [snapback]425694[/snapback]
I feel that Irons and Collins have impoved things ( feck I couldv'e improved things ) but the limitations within our squad must be very frustratiing to work with .

I wonder if Irons thought he players were ripping the pish when he asked all he central midfielders to step foward .



....and LEAFY, Lee, and Davie McGurn were left looking like spare pr*cks at a wh*re's wedding.


QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 25 2008, 11:41 PM) [snapback]425709[/snapback]
The overall team performance has improved since the new management team have come in.
But we still struggle to score, we still give away daft goals, and we still can't compete with most teams in midfield.

It's between us and Clyde now. Livi are a better team than Clyde (and probably us too) so they will pick up the points required.
It's not all over, but going by past team performances in games we have to win. This squad of players just doesn't fill me with confidence that they have the bottle to win vital games.
Sorry if that sounds negative, but we have been let down so many times over the last few seasons by this bunch of bottle-merchants.

My only hope is the new management team are better at motivating them for these types of games.


Wise words Sir-just stay away from Bawheid's lot and you may go far!


QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 26 2008, 12:39 AM) [snapback]425728[/snapback]
this will never happen, its time people stepped out from their little fantasy land and realised that there is absolutely 0% chance of our fans helping the team in the way you have just said, no matter how many of us wants it to happen.

i think with our fans there used to be a few leaders and a lot of followers when it came to singing, as in people would start and everyone else would join in. But we dont seem to have any leaders anymore and the whole cowshed is just a big group of people waiting for everyone else to start singing so they can aswell....so the result is we wont ever sing and get behind the team.

There's no harm in dreaming PT-don't knock those who can see happiness on the grayest of days-it takes all kinds.
mortonjag 2008-03-26 07:21:27 I take it Innes may still be coming!
He's been released by the Administrator because he's perceived as marketable, and our record of late in gaining 'marketable' players has been deplorable.

I can see him going to one of the first division sides with plans in place for next season. dry.gif

mortonjag 2008-03-26 07:25:16
QUOTE(grnklad2006ton @ Mar 25 2008, 11:54 PM) [snapback]425718[/snapback]
I truly think we are in for the play offs for sure this year, after Clyde winning up in Perth they will be buzzing after that, can see them only getting stronger. Its now up to Morton to go and get a few big results away from home. However with queens away and partick and co can anyone see that happening.

I think the penalty miss at home to partick, then that draw on sat with livi will come back to haunt us. Then there’s the small matter of Dunfermline coming to town, I cant honestly say that that’s a guaranteed 3 points. When you really look at it, then I think we are in trouble but I hope the boys get a great unexpected result away from home just like Clyde did tonight, I mean seriously did anyone expect that.

Worrying times ahead folks, please not the playoffs we know how much bottle we have when it comes to things like that. C’mon Morton time to fight for your right to stay in this division sad.gif . This could be interesting ......

The Broadwood game was THE one we had to win. David Irons stated that quite categorically before the match, but even HE couldn't get a result in a cruncher.


I'd hate us to go down, and still believe Gretna will be our salvation, if all else fails.
mortonjag 2008-03-26 08:03:15
QUOTE(jimmy boag delivers @ Mar 26 2008, 07:51 AM) [snapback]425752[/snapback]
There's a bit in The Sun today (pg 53) saying he is signing for us on a 3 year deal worth £1k a week.

If that's true, it's a hugely positive statement of intent.

mortonjag 2008-03-26 08:05:08
QUOTE(jimmy boag delivers @ Mar 26 2008, 07:53 AM) [snapback]425754[/snapback]
One good result for Clyde and it's doom and gloom again. For fuxsake one result doesn't make a season. We may be ninth today but could easily be 7th by Saturday at 4.45.

So sadly true-what could have been-eh!
mortonjag 2008-03-26 08:05:53
QUOTE(jimmy boag delivers @ Mar 26 2008, 07:52 AM) [snapback]425753[/snapback]
A typical anal comment from the Record as usual.

Anal crap?
mortonjag 2008-03-26 08:12:53
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 26 2008, 08:01 AM) [snapback]425755[/snapback]
Why you pesky solado you. mad.gif

Just you wait simple_ton, the next time I'm over at your place for a swim I'm going to pee in your goldfish bowl.
Ha ha.




Carp by nature!
mortonjag 2008-03-26 09:12:28
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 26 2008, 08:36 AM) [snapback]425764[/snapback]
ah cassandra - would you say it was your policies or your presentation that let's you down? biggrin.gif

Neither quite so much as that apostrophe does you, Trumpet.


3/10 Must try MUCH harder. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-26 09:19:25
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 26 2008, 08:28 AM) [snapback]425761[/snapback]
It would help us if Gretna were to go belly up before the end of the season. I understand that if they last until the end of the season, the rules for relegation are different, but if they fold priot to the end of the season, ninth in division 1 will not be involved in the playoffs - that honour going to tenth which might be Stirling with any luck.

Tonsilitis can maybe advise, but as a creditor of Gretna, can I insist on the club being wound up as it is obvious that they have no visible means of support? - income from matches is unlikely to get anywhere near the running costs, and the longer it goes on the larger the fee taken by the administrator. Is there a process whereby I can insist on immediate winding up (without expensive legal processes)?

I would love to have as my signature "The man who saved the Ton from relegation"...



'Frankly, I hope that Gretna do survive; one never likes to see any team having to close.......


There are reports that an Irish Consortium may takeover Gretna; hopefully something good will come out of the talks currently taking place between the Consortium and the Administrator.'


Hmm! wink.gif



You probably know all this stuff Alibi, but may find this useful-it's not a link-just Google it!


Dealing with Debt - How to Wind up a Company that owes you Money
mortonjag 2008-03-26 10:02:56
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 26 2008, 08:48 AM) [snapback]425769[/snapback]
A four page thread based on a rumour posted by someone with 60 posts sort of proves my point of this being a forum for the mentally ill. Innes may or may not sign but as of now there's no evidence to say he will.

As to Div's point above. I'm very uncomfortable with the influx of Gretna players and staff into my club. Gretna was arguably the worst thing to happen to Scottish football in my lifetime (it's early in the day and my brain is not working yet but I'm struggling to think of anything worse). The arrogance shown by the players and staff as they were promoted through the leagues sickened me and now we're getting saddled with them.
We may as well go the whole hog and get the lot of them, after all they 'lived the dream'. Oh and I know of a fantastic former Chief Executive, one who 'would have done it anyway without Mileson's money, who is looking for a job at the moment.


To which we both contribute Mr McArthur!


QUOTE(midTONs @ Mar 26 2008, 08:58 AM) [snapback]425774[/snapback]
Davie you cannot blame the players for the Gretna fiasco, they did what most professionals footballers would do to support their families and that is play football for decent wages, in my opinion players proved that they were good enough to do the job in hand, although I agree the Gretna thing was no good for Scottish football, surely you cannot put any of the blame on the players for doing the job they were being paid to do.
There is only one person to blame in this whole affair and thats Brooks Mileson (ill or not).

mentally?
mortonjag 2008-03-26 10:04:39
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Mar 26 2008, 10:00 AM) [snapback]425799[/snapback]
He's 31 tongue.gif

Which is YOUNG!
mortonjag 2008-03-26 10:17:24
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 26 2008, 10:10 AM) [snapback]425804[/snapback]
It's also quite amusing that so many on this forum were calling Gretna players 'mercenaries' a couple of seasons back are now wanting to sign them all.

Professional footballers are by definition mercenary.
mortonjag 2008-03-26 10:19:22
QUOTE(Carl Bertelson @ Mar 26 2008, 10:10 AM) [snapback]425805[/snapback]
Court order to wind them up will do the trick.....the only reason creditors don't do it is because they have this false hope that they will get their money back and they don't want to be labeled as the person who put the team out of business.

Imagine that.....saving Morton from relegation and not even scoring a goal laugh.gif
As for the people waiting in the wings to buy the team.......the consortium...if I had a pound for every time I heard that when Morton were in administration I could have bailed them out myself.

You never know tho' Mileson may make a miraculous recovery and do John Boyle.....but you wont get your money.... Court order it is Alibi.

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mortonjag 2008-03-26 10:20:36
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 26 2008, 09:09 AM) [snapback]425778[/snapback]
But will the Brisbane Street shop remain?

If not... mad.gif

...you may shed a few pounds? tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-26 10:24:51
QUOTE(dazed @ Mar 26 2008, 09:47 AM) [snapback]425794[/snapback]
While I would agree with a lot of what you have to say
unsure.gif I thought I had?

Nope-you tried to defend the SNP by stating-possibly correctly- that Labour have been worse-that's called scoring political points.

I don't do politics.

Do you think Sturgeon's doing a good job for those in real need?
mortonjag 2008-03-26 10:28:48
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 26 2008, 08:22 AM) [snapback]425760[/snapback]
IMHO the problem is we are suffering from some lamentably poor signings by the previous management team. We don't have a decent striker, Spoonsy apart when he chooses to turn up. We have some willing strikers who try hard, but they just don't seem to be good enough. Or big enough.

Deego says WAKEY'S a big lad.
mortonjag 2008-03-26 10:31:04
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 26 2008, 10:26 AM) [snapback]425813[/snapback]
McGuffie's been there since day one, near enough; Jenkins joined when Gretna were in Division 1 from a no-hope team on the slide (and one to which he'd previously been very loyal); Innes... OK, I'll give you Innes tongue.gif

I don't see why guys who have given good service to a club but now need to move on should be regarded as damaged goods. It's really not their fault.

bankrupt stock?
mortonjag 2008-03-26 10:35:42
QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Mar 26 2008, 10:33 AM) [snapback]425818[/snapback]
Rotten banter?

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mortonjag 2008-03-26 10:54:06
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Mar 26 2008, 10:45 AM) [snapback]425826[/snapback]
It is on the BBC's "gossip column" that we are ready to sign him (though I think their source was The Sun....whose source was probably this thread!)

Still, you never know!

1k per week over THREE years?
mortonjag 2008-03-26 10:58:14
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Mar 26 2008, 10:54 AM) [snapback]425829[/snapback]
What is the significance of the above?!

Signifies you don't read!


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There's a bit in The Sun today (pg 53) saying he is signing for us on a 3 year deal worth £1k a week.
mortonjag 2008-03-26 11:24:01
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 26 2008, 11:03 AM) [snapback]425833[/snapback]
You can't get a court order while they are in administration - I have a solicitor's bill in this morning for various legal processes which I had commenced and they have all been a waste of time and money as the administration stops them proceeding.

Stop press: Just phoned the administrator to ask if they could save Morton and they told me that Gretna FC are being funded by the SPL until the end of the season. She said that this is being done in such a way that creditors positions will not be worsened. That raises some serious questions about the SPL interfering in financial matters that affect others. I'm not convinced that it will leave creditors unaffected.

I'm going to try another route - I'm writing to the administrators to complain about trading while insolvent - they say they will investigate if this has been occurring - in which case I can sue the directors personally.



Sorry guys - looks like we'll have to rely on the players to save us.

Well she would-wouldn't she.

Alibi it f*cking stinks-the SPL have no interest in the well being of Gretna, let alone its creditors. Furthermore the creditors position is potentially worsened every day this runs on. Cash flow is a consideration in all businesses-some other poor wee soul could go to the wall as bloody SPL Nero fiddles.

There MUST be a way of legally questioning the competence of the Administrator-SURELY?
mortonjag 2008-03-26 13:45:15
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 26 2008, 11:41 AM) [snapback]425844[/snapback]
Really??? blink.gif
I'm so glad you post on here MJ, I don't know how I'd manage otherwise. wink.gif

No probs Mr McArthur.
mortonjag 2008-03-26 13:52:14
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 26 2008, 01:17 PM) [snapback]425896[/snapback]
im not criticising the fans for it, infact i stated that most of fans were standing waiting to sing when everyone else does.

im just a realist to know that we wont be signing in our last games, everyone has seen first hand what morton fans are like when they are nervous, silent but deadly like many of my farts.

and yes, i am a follower. always have been and always will be. without followers there would be no leaders. tongue.gif

Without explosions there would be no bombs! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-26 14:05:29
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Mar 26 2008, 12:49 PM) [snapback]425877[/snapback]
Aye, looks like they made the Tele look a tad stupid with Del's comments today.



Published: Wednesday, 26th March, 2008 12:00
Innes bid unlikely to succeed

By Roger Graham
Printer Print Article

MORTON assistant manager Derek Collins today revealed that Gretna centre back Chris Innes is unlikely to be joining the Cappielow club.

He said: “It looks as if it may not happen. The player has other options and he may possibly take his chances down south.”

Morton had made an ambitious bid to bring the player to Greenock and Collins said: “We tried to push the boat out to get one of the best centre backs in Scotland, but it’s not set in stone.

“I don’t think it’s a definite goer.”

Innes has also been linked with Dundee.



Whom to believe-the local paper and club assistant manager who has close links with Gretna, or others?
mortonjag 2008-03-26 14:10:37
QUOTE(Muz @ Mar 26 2008, 02:07 PM) [snapback]425917[/snapback]
It's true.

WHAT's true-apples are green if they're not red? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-26 14:14:55
QUOTE(Muz @ Mar 26 2008, 02:11 PM) [snapback]425920[/snapback]
If that's a reply at what I said I cant see it as the boring p***k's on ignore.

was it as boring as I suspect?

Paranoia will get you everywhere ya daft c*nt! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-26 14:19:02
QUOTE(Mick @ Mar 26 2008, 02:15 PM) [snapback]425922[/snapback]
Confirmed.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


Aye very good smartarse-you've been girnin' yer face off all morning.

That clown posts 'It's true'.


How bloody intelligent and informative. We were already told it was true by another eejit over 36 hours ago.

Some folk are genuinely interested in finding the truth. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-26 14:22:36
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 26 2008, 02:17 PM) [snapback]425924[/snapback]
without the internet there would be no Mortonjag. Come back *careful, or I'll close down the Internet*, all is forgiven! tongue.gif

.....and undoubtedly poor innocent old c*nts would be getting beaten up in the streets of Greenock by the mindless morons who use Jag therapy every day!
mortonjag 2008-03-26 14:23:50
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 26 2008, 02:22 PM) [snapback]425928[/snapback]
this may be true, but unfortunatly a lot of the players we have at the club are at the same level as Templeman and Linn. We could have used both of them in the 2nd half of the season, espescially Templeman who is far better than Graham and Wake to bring on if Weatherson is having a bad game, and also Linn to bring on if Russell is having a bad game.

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mortonjag 2008-03-26 14:27:45
QUOTE(dazed @ Mar 26 2008, 02:19 PM) [snapback]425927[/snapback]
I don't do politics you Constantly attack Nicola Sturgeon, if thats not doing politics then I dont know what is? unsure.gif

I would agree that it is unlikely that the NHS will ever meet demand , you are also right when you say some people practically have a season ticket for their doctors and run to them at the drop of a hat for the most trivial of things and deny some people who really need access to a doctor because of their actions, but how do you stop this , I mean who will decide who really needs to see a doctor and who doesnt?

I would also agree that it would be foolish not to consult with those who work at the sharp end of the NHS , I have worked in it, have three qualified sisters who still work in it and have a brother in law who is a consultant, anyone who did not at least take on board these sort of peoples advice and others like them( I exclude myself from that list as I am not qualified but as a member of the public do have an opinion) before they make decisions on the future of the NHS is silly to think they can sort it all themselves,however well intentioned they are.

All I would say is she has only had a very short period of time to act , less than a year , at least give her a chance before putting her to sword and save your scathing attacks for those who had decades to act but did little or nothing, it is they who deserve your scorn more.

Finally I wasnt scoring political points I was telling the truth thats all.

You seem in a rather back handed way to be acknowledging her inadequacy.
mortonjag 2008-03-26 14:29:52
QUOTE(Muz @ Mar 26 2008, 02:24 PM) [snapback]425932[/snapback]
I had to unclick this to see what the fanny had said this time.

I am neither a clown or another eejit- maybe I did find the truth, eh, ya old f***in trumpet?

f*** off.

Your comments indicate otherwise-CLOWN.
mortonjag 2008-03-26 14:31:26
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 26 2008, 02:27 PM) [snapback]425935[/snapback]
is this going to be another thread taken over by MJ and people arguing? if so tell me now in advance so i can go paint something and watch it dry.

Don't paint yer dick then or you'll catch the Jag's next post.
mortonjag 2008-03-26 14:39:19
QUOTE(Muz @ Mar 26 2008, 02:28 PM) [snapback]425937[/snapback]
I agree mate, and I am sorry in advance if that happens. My last post on it.

Apologies folks. sleep.gif

TY
mortonjag 2008-03-26 14:40:17
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 26 2008, 02:34 PM) [snapback]425940[/snapback]
i've found that very useful in the past when ive woken up and found you sitting over me breathing heavily.

talk about being caught red handed. mellow.gif
right enough.
Back over to Chris Innes in the studio!

In yer dreams son! cool.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-26 14:42:34
QUOTE(Jackie @ Mar 26 2008, 02:40 PM) [snapback]425944[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED
mortonjag 2008-03-26 14:49:31 For the third time this season, the judging panel consisting of representitives of the Scottish Media have voted Jim McInally the SFL 2nd Division Manager of the Month.

Jim was nominated following the "excellent form shown by the Cappielow club during the course of last month."
mortonjag 2008-03-26 14:51:34
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 26 2008, 02:49 PM) [snapback]425948[/snapback]
On Saturday a few of us are taking the train down to Dumfries. 3 Ton fans and a part-time Doonhamer.

As part of this deal the Doonhamer came in the Morton end in the cup game so I am repaying this by going in their end on Saturday. This was meant to be done at the first away game there of the season but I couldn't make it at the last minute.

So basically I'm wondering what I should wear.

I just got the home top so want to wear that and reckon a jacket over it alone with a blue and white hooped scarf would be fine. I really don't see there being any bother if - on the off chance - someone sees my true colours.

...or should I just go neutral?

Or even go buy a Queens top? laugh.gif

Wear Gretna colours-that's where the fifteen of them go anyway those days.
mortonjag 2008-03-26 14:55:44
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Mar 26 2008, 01:07 PM) [snapback]425892[/snapback]
A guy on his own, in Funworld, on the internet.... that's a bit Gary Glitter, no?

laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-26 14:57:13
QUOTE(Muz @ Mar 26 2008, 02:55 PM) [snapback]425955[/snapback]
The Jug.

Wouldnt lie about the other thing.

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mortonjag 2008-03-26 15:18:14
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Mar 26 2008, 03:08 PM) [snapback]425964[/snapback]
Does anyone else rate him this Highly ?

Whats the defence line up gonna be now ?

Graecen -- Innes -- Harding

Is there actually a topic on this board that MJ doesnt try to take over ?

You must be psychic-the Monkey and I were just commenting that it only seems to be the forum weans who are interested in wrestling, PS3 games, what are you listening to/drinking/ who would you like to shag at the moment.


Trouble is, they also hi-jack the adult threads and get upset when they can't cope. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-26 15:22:07
QUOTE(midTONs @ Mar 26 2008, 03:13 PM) [snapback]425965[/snapback]
Muz how sure are you? I've just been told he defo aint signed yet.

unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-26 15:31:43
QUOTE(midTONs @ Mar 26 2008, 03:27 PM) [snapback]425968[/snapback]
Thats the way I was told it. unsure.gif

nothing more nothing less.



QUOTE(Mr H Palms @ Mar 26 2008, 03:29 PM) [snapback]425970[/snapback]
ive just been told the same

It doesn't really mean very much-does it?
mortonjag 2008-03-26 15:37:54
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 26 2008, 03:35 PM) [snapback]425972[/snapback]
Innes has to take his p45 and his new contract to the Scottish FA who then need to send that to Fifa to confirm it, it may take a day or two find out where he is going.

Are you just spelling out the legislation Bryan, or are you suggesting he's done a deal at Cappielow which is still to be ratified?
mortonjag 2008-03-26 15:43:56
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 26 2008, 03:38 PM) [snapback]425974[/snapback]
the first.... its on Weds Sports Report here discussing the rules http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/scotland/default.stm



Thanks-I'm still puzzled by the notion of Innes coming here on a three year contract, when we're not even guaranteed first division football next year.

QUOTE(midTONs @ Mar 26 2008, 03:38 PM) [snapback]425975[/snapback]
Not unless you're the guy or lassie telling it. tongue.gif Which I'm not. sad.gif

Well all she's saying wink.gif is, 'we're still hoping'!
mortonjag 2008-03-26 15:47:16
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 26 2008, 03:41 PM) [snapback]425978[/snapback]
we will be fine biggrin.gif

tongue.gif


If you mean we'll be playing in the first division next season-aye-I have a gut feeling we'll scrape it!
mortonjag 2008-03-26 16:08:51
QUOTE(suda @ Mar 26 2008, 03:58 PM) [snapback]425984[/snapback]
yeah because he's not likely to drop down a level just for more money now is he tongue.gif


I wasn't so much thinking from the players angle-lets face it Rae could be forced to pay him £50,000 for a season in the Third Division! wink.gif


QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Mar 26 2008, 04:01 PM) [snapback]425986[/snapback]
Just been told that a certain mr Stevenson and Williams spotted at scappa this afternoon

....and on it goes! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-26 16:09:37
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 26 2008, 04:07 PM) [snapback]425988[/snapback]
they probably heard the home shirts are being sold for £15 now.

anyone else think there should be a rumours sub-forum or they should just be banned!

its plainly obvious that there is not one reliable source in greenock and that we are all c*nts! tongue.gif

Very true.
mortonjag 2008-03-26 16:13:06
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Mar 26 2008, 04:11 PM) [snapback]425993[/snapback]
Well with the amount of s*** floating around on this thread i thjought i'd just throw more s*** on top wink.gif

So Innes is NOT coming! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-26 16:16:55
QUOTE(big B @ Mar 26 2008, 04:13 PM) [snapback]425996[/snapback]
Innes is live on Sky Sports NEWS at 1630 hrs.

source?
mortonjag 2008-03-26 16:20:12
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Mar 26 2008, 04:17 PM) [snapback]425999[/snapback]
not a rumour but sky sports news are going to interview Chris Innes at around 1630 thats half past four in case anyone does not work by 24 hour clock. Have said on here before that half the lies folk tell on here are not true but I hope we do get this guy. it is becoming another jenkins saga but that turned out ok.

Sounds like the smart chappie and his agent are orchestrating this quite well.


Deja f*ckin' vu.
mortonjag 2008-03-26 16:22:30
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Mar 26 2008, 04:20 PM) [snapback]426001[/snapback]
sky sports news wink.gif

RLY! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-26 17:14:58
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 26 2008, 04:48 PM) [snapback]426028[/snapback]
Not true I'm afraid. sad.gif

The Chief Exec of the SFL was on Radio Scotland last night and stated that even if Gretna go bust the play offs will happen at the end of the season in the format that was put in place at the start of the season -

I reckon they'll allow the play offs to go ahead and if Gretna die and they need to re adjust the leagues they will promote the losing play-off finalist.

So we may only need to beat Alloa over two games.

But then again it might be Peterhead ,. ohmy.gif

Do you mean the final would still be played even though both teams were guaranteed to be in Division 1?
mortonjag 2008-03-26 17:24:08 Time will tell. I tend to accept what Derek Collins has said. Our club has naturally been interested.


Leaked story about Morton offering 1k per week over three years is like the opening bid at an auction-possibly just a marketing ploy.
mortonjag 2008-03-26 17:31:38
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 26 2008, 04:41 PM) [snapback]426014[/snapback]
Aint been shopping for food yet. Don't have a kitchen. I asked a couple of Scottish chaps I met and they never had a clue. Even if I found them I'd need to hand them into the kitchen and ask them to fry them up for me.

You sound downright miserable son-I wish I could give you a big 'there there' cuddle. sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-26 17:51:34 So Innes is probaby not coming and we have a game on Saturday. We've done quite well at Palmerston this season-maybe there's indeed something in this 'luck' thing.

Will it be a handsome victory, a convincing draw, or just more of the same?

I'm always optimistic before games-well ALMOST always, but I just can't see us beating the Doonhamers again in their own backyard.

If we can take a draw from this I guess we have to be content, though in terms of survival, nothing short of three points will really do.
mortonjag 2008-03-26 17:54:02
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 26 2008, 05:49 PM) [snapback]426064[/snapback]
blink.gif Only if the Gretna situation is not resolved at the time of the final.

The play-offs start before the SPL finishes so it is not that unlikely that the final will have been played before the Administrators eventually throw the towel in as I'm sure they will use the Summer to find a buyer.

But hey, thanks for making me clear that up for all the other small minded pedants here.
- oh? just you is it?

Oh well wink.gif

laugh.gif

Believe it or not I asked you a sincere question, and look what I got in return.

Oh well. sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-26 17:59:30
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Mar 26 2008, 05:58 PM) [snapback]426072[/snapback]
Fair enough. I apologise. smile.gif

wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-26 18:09:05
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Mar 26 2008, 06:06 PM) [snapback]426080[/snapback]
I reckon Innes will try his luck finding a club in England and if he cannot find one by Thursday midnight, he may then come back and entertain our offer; but I wouldn't hold my breath.

Sounds about right.
mortonjag 2008-03-26 18:23:16 Is it not bad enough as it stands?

We've struggled all season, and are in danger of relegation.

Gretna are totally f*cked, but it suits the SPL to keep them playing till AFTER our season's finished.

It seems we could have to wait on tenterhooks pending their final demise (or survival in division 1-HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA) mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif


As always, money talks and the smaller clubs suffer. The whole thing's a shambes, and it's being worsened by pure greed on the part of the SPL.

They are paying to keep Gretna afloat meantime.

HOW MUCH are they paying that bloody administrator to ignore the true priorities?


CRIMINAL BEHAVIOUR
mortonjag 2008-03-26 18:26:54
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 26 2008, 06:25 PM) [snapback]426093[/snapback]
HOW MUCH are they paying that bloody administrator to ignore the true priorities?

simple question

simple answer - enough.

How do you think Alibi feels ?

mad.gif

Homicidal I'd imagine Newt!
mortonjag 2008-03-26 18:29:53
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 26 2008, 06:23 PM) [snapback]426090[/snapback]
Come on you two.

Just because you both come from Kilmacolm there is no need to get all lovey dovey.

smile.gif

sad.gif


My Auntie Jenny, and my cousin, and my sister and brother in law live in that fine village.

I am but a poor boy though my story's seldom told.
mortonjag 2008-03-26 18:32:44
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 26 2008, 06:14 PM) [snapback]426087[/snapback]
Condolences to Davie and the family.
As for Innes, I still think he'll sign.

Aye-for the highest bidder!
mortonjag 2008-03-26 18:53:17
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 26 2008, 06:44 PM) [snapback]426104[/snapback]
do you remember April 1 2007 ?

Alibi should have got some dosh then.

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The Administrator is not patently acting in the true interests of the creditors-I'd imagine many others have been owed since before that date too.

How would he feel if he had to wait two years for 'a penny in the pound' instead of pocketing a fistful of readies from the SPL?
mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-26 18:58:48
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 26 2008, 06:42 PM) [snapback]426101[/snapback]
He was close to suicide whilst playing for Morton.

Is that not the norm? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-26 19:01:01
QUOTE(stuart @ Mar 26 2008, 06:54 PM) [snapback]426118[/snapback]
Big article about Keenan on the back of the Ayrshire Post today. Headline "LOOK WHO THAT IS" and just basically says he was playing against Ayr in a bounce game on Monday (Andy McLaren also played 20 minutes). Reid very keen on signing him. Reid says "Dean has been a great addition to the squad, in many cases doing the dirty jobs, making the challenges, taking the knocks, working hard for the team all over the pitch and when the opportunity has arisen, making some telling passes. His attitude and workrate makes him the exact type of player I want to bring to the club"

Sounds like Deano-Brian Reid rates him more highly than do certain football afficionados and snobs, it would appear! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-26 19:06:41
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 26 2008, 06:58 PM) [snapback]426126[/snapback]
Gidday SmithsTon,

naw, mate, I'm just a lover.

But, if I was leaving Gretna ...

Asking only workman's wages
I come looking for a job
But I get no offers.

sad.gif sad.gif

Just a come-on from the whores on Seventh Avenue
I do declare, there were times when I was so lonesome
I took some comfort there ???? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-26 19:11:35 It clearly depends on our situation and plans-how can anybody possibly make sensible suggestions until we know if we're still in the first division.

They're all good second division players IMO.
mortonjag 2008-03-26 19:15:10
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 26 2008, 07:11 PM) [snapback]426139[/snapback]
not the behaviour that I would expect of a Kilmacolm lad, educated at Paisley Grammar.

sad.gif


Then Im laying out my winter clothes and wishing I was gone,
Going home, where the new york city winters arent bleedin me.
Leadin me, to Kilmacolm.
mortonjag 2008-03-26 19:22:42
QUOTE(edd @ Mar 26 2008, 07:14 PM) [snapback]426145[/snapback]
delictual behaviour, possibly, but not criminal i don't think ...

Edd -you're the law man-not me!


I believe that if the SPL is knowingly infuencing the Administrator to the detriment of the creditors, it should be liable to criminal prosecution! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-26 19:24:10
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 26 2008, 07:18 PM) [snapback]426149[/snapback]
oh no, not another incipient legal wrangle wink.gif

libel, anyone?

F*CK OFF YOU


Edd is studying proper law at a proper university.

He is a good chap.
mortonjag 2008-03-26 19:24:57
QUOTE(Waverley @ Mar 26 2008, 07:21 PM) [snapback]426153[/snapback]
The SPL will keep them afloat until the season is over. They'll be relegated to the SFL and the SPL will be happy to wash their hands off them.

CRIMINALS mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-26 19:27:25
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 26 2008, 07:16 PM) [snapback]426147[/snapback]
for once it is not just your opinion, they have proven that they are good second division players.

In your opinion.
mortonjag 2008-03-26 19:29:36
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 26 2008, 07:23 PM) [snapback]426156[/snapback]
man bites dog smile.gif

He is a good Kilmacomic-he apologised graciously, as I often do too.
mortonjag 2008-03-26 19:31:50
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 26 2008, 07:30 PM) [snapback]426165[/snapback]
he doesn't think it's criminal then? laugh.gif

He has indeed proffered his opinion!
mortonjag 2008-03-26 19:33:40
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 26 2008, 07:12 PM) [snapback]426143[/snapback]
guilty as charged laugh.gif and I'd ask for a trailing 's' to be taken into consideration m'lud

you can, however, see what i was thinking rolleyes.gif

Aye-you were thinking, 'I'll noise up that poor old c*nt because I'm bored'! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-26 19:37:19
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 26 2008, 07:33 PM) [snapback]426167[/snapback]
rocking horse sh1t is rare on this board, as i'm sure you'll agree smile.gif

Do rocking horses require to defaecate?
mortonjag 2008-03-26 20:13:28
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 26 2008, 07:43 PM) [snapback]426176[/snapback]
a rare laugh.gif to that smile.gif

although what i was referring to was the grammatical quandary betrayed by the b*****d apostrophe

Stop using big words.
mortonjag 2008-03-26 20:15:12
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 26 2008, 07:46 PM) [snapback]426181[/snapback]
rarely dear, rarely huh.gif

Sometimes? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-26 20:17:22
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 26 2008, 07:43 PM) [snapback]426178[/snapback]
The job description sounds like that already performed by Scott McLaughlin. I cannot believe that at a time when we already acknowledge that the squad of which Keenan was a part of is deemed below par for survival and growth in the 1st division people seem to have left their rose tinted specs on too long and see Keenan as a good player. Playing for a mid table 2nd division team is about right for him.

Is that your opinion?
mortonjag 2008-03-26 20:23:26
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 26 2008, 07:28 PM) [snapback]426162[/snapback]
winning the league not good enough to prove it anymore? didnt realise it was so hard to be considered a good 2nd division player. tongue.gif

unsure.gif

QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Mar 26 2008, 07:34 PM) [snapback]426170[/snapback]
Harding possibly, the rest are not good enough for this level hence the reason we're in the sh*t now. mad.gif

Nice to see somebody else recognises ability.

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 26 2008, 07:44 PM) [snapback]426179[/snapback]
Finlayson has been one of our better players THIS season. He has showed he can make the step up. Most, if not all, of the others have failed.

Blows hot and cold-THE most frustrating player at Cappieow-bar none-very useful 1st division utility player IMO. NEVER EVER a winger.

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 26 2008, 07:53 PM) [snapback]426188[/snapback]
He has been one of our most consistant players, gives 100% effort, makes goals, scores goals,track back and defends.

Who else is better in his position ?

General right sided dogsbody!
mortonjag 2008-03-26 20:26:46
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 26 2008, 08:21 PM) [snapback]426211[/snapback]
hens' teeth

apostrophe alert!




To digress Trumpet, I popped out there to M & S garage/store.

Apparently their produce staff have 'over 1000 years of experience between them'.

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mortonjag 2008-03-26 20:31:29
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 26 2008, 08:27 PM) [snapback]426216[/snapback]
so what do you think sandra - policies or presentation?

Oh-if you insist Trumpet-I'd say the presentation has put the Jag just about where he wants to be at this stage in the campaign! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-26 20:32:35
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 26 2008, 07:51 PM) [snapback]426186[/snapback]
You can phone me. smile.gif

xx



QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 26 2008, 08:08 PM) [snapback]426197[/snapback]
thanks babe wub.gif x

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mortonjag 2008-03-26 20:37:41
QUOTE(axeman @ Mar 26 2008, 08:35 PM) [snapback]426223[/snapback]
What should happen is that if Gretna fail to win on Saturday, as is probably certain now, they are relegated. This should allow ample time for the Scottish League to remind them that they were warned a year ago that their ground wasn't up to 1st Division standard & as it has got worse they are not eligible to play in the 1st.

Regardless of their financial situation this would mean they would drop automatically into the 2nd. Brown McMaster, Partick's man at the Scottish League, has already made rumblings about them dropping 2 divisions, although he mentioned footballing debts not being settled as the reason so far.

They are well and truly f*cked-let them die now.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 06:28:51
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 26 2008, 10:57 PM) [snapback]426272[/snapback]
Nah. I'm really enjoying it. My room mate's from Bognor Regis and he's brand new. He went to the shops today and brought me back IRN BRU and Tennents to make me feel at home smile.gif

smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-27 06:33:08
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 26 2008, 10:15 PM) [snapback]426254[/snapback]
Should the new management team rename the players ???

Anything to avoid relegation.

laugh.gif laugh.gif
People called James or Elizabeth are perceived as likely to be the most successful, while Ryan and Sophie are seen as the most attractive, according to a new poll.

Jack and Lucy are seen as the luckiest, according to a poll based on asking more than 6,000 people for their perceptions of different names and the kind of people likely to have them.

At the other end of the scale, Lisa and Brian were seen as the least successful, Helen and John as the least lucky, and Ann and George as the most unattractive, according to the poll commissioned by a British academic.

“Past research has shown that such perceptions can become self-fulfilling prophecies, with teachers giving higher marks to children with attractive names and employers being more likely to promote those who sound successful," said the authors of the poll.

As well as mainstream names, psychologist Richard Wiseman of the University of Hertfordshire also found that unusual names people give their children could also have a big influence on how they are perceived.

"Attractive female names tended to be soft-sounding and end with the 'ee' sound, whereas the sexiest male names are short and much harder sounding," he said, adding that names with royal links are seen as successful or clever.

Here are key findings from the poll, based on asking nearly 6,700 people to rank 20 male and 20 female names in terms of successfulness, intelligence, and luck (girls name first, then boys):

1. SUCCESS

Top five:

Elizabeth — James
Caroline — Richard
Helen — Michael
Olivia — William
Amanda — Andrew

Bottom five:

Julie — Ian
Emily — Lewis
Katie — Stephen
Lucy — Ryan
Lisa — Brian

2. LUCK

Top five:

Lucy — Jack
Katie — Chris
Lisa — Ryan
Sophie — Peter
Emma — James

Bottom five:

Caroline — George
Karen — William
Ann — Richard
Elizabeth — Thomas
Helen — John

3. ATTRACTIVENESS

Top five:

Sophie — Ryan
Rachel — James
Olivia — Jack
Karen — Chris
Katie — Michael

Bottom five:

Caroline — Richard
Elizabeth — John
Helen — Peter
Jane — Thomas
Ann — George

Poor John Thomas-born unlucky and it just got harder.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 06:42:09

Bacillus cereus is an endemic, soil-dwelling, Gram-positive, rod-shaped, beta hemolytic bacteria that causes foodborne illness.[1] It is the cause of "Fried Rice Syndrome". B. cereus bacteria are facultative aerobes, and like other members of the genus Bacillus can produce protective endospores.


B. cereus is responsible for a minority of foodborne illnesses (2–5%). It is known to create heavy nausea, vomiting, and abdominal periods. [2] Generally speaking, Bacillus foodborne illnesses occur due to survival of the bacterial spores when food is improperly cooked.[3] This problem is compounded when food is then improperly refrigerated, allowing the spores to germinate.[4] Bacterial growth results in production of enterotoxin, and ingestion leads to two types of illness, diarrheal and emetic syndrome.[5]

* The diarrheal type is associated with a wide-range of foods, has an 8–16.5 hour incubation time and is associated with diarrhea and gastrointestinal pain. Also known as the long-incubation form of B. cereus food poisoning, it might be difficult to differentiate from poisoning caused by Clostridium perfringens.[6]
* In the emetic form, rice that is cooked then improperly refrigerated is common cause, leading to nausea and vomiting 1–5 hours after consumption. This form can be difficult to distinguish from other short-term bacterial foodborne pathogens (e.g. Staphylococcus aureus).[6]

It was previously thought that the timing of the toxin production might be responsible for the two different types, but in fact the emetic syndrome is caused by a toxin called cereulide that is found only in emetic strains and is not part of the 'standard toolbox' of B. cereus. Cereulide a dodecadepsipeptide produced by non-ribosomal peptide synthesis (NRPS), which is somewhat unusual in itself. It was shown independently by two research groups to be encoded on a plasmid, which is called pCERE01 [7] or pBCE4810.[8] Interestingly, this plasmid shares a common backbone with the virulence plasmid pXO1, which encodes the anthrax toxin genes in B. anthracis, but with a different pathogenicity island. Periodontal isolates of B. cereus also possess distinct pXO1-like plasmids. B. cereus is also known to cause skin infections that can be quite lengthy, difficult to eradicate, and damaging, though less aggressive than the more notorious Necrotizing fasciitis





The very old and the very young are generally more liable to succumb to serious (or cereus) infection, Newt.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 06:46:33
QUOTE(blindton @ Mar 26 2008, 11:36 PM) [snapback]426286[/snapback]
Did you get a better deal in the end Davie? Or was it as bad as expected?

I went with Margaret Nicol, really good. Passed first time last year.

Good luck with your lessons Ian wink.gif

Surprised the eyesight test's so lax those days!
mortonjag 2008-03-27 06:49:32
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 27 2008, 12:44 AM) [snapback]426351[/snapback]
http://www.firstfoot.u-net.com/its%20naugh...tyframemain.htm
This page has been specially constructed for those of you out there looking for something a bit risque.

So, if you fancy "a little bit of something you can't get at home" ........ look no further.

However, if you are under the age of 8, or believe passionately in Peter Pan, please leave now.

But, above all, have fun.

smile.gif

Most Scots who passionately believe in Wendy have a mental age of 6.79 Newt.


'Bendy Wendy' the plastic princess of Never Never land!
mortonjag 2008-03-27 06:53:38
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 27 2008, 06:48 AM) [snapback]426365[/snapback]
Becuse an Independent Scotland will put a big shield over the country to stop evil imperialist television waves being beamed down from outer space.

... and will the big shield be made of Scottish steel ?

or will aluminium foil suffice ?

maybe Teacher Tom will know ?

It will be made of the First Minister's suit of clothes.


'Bawheid is in the altogether, the altogether, the altogether.....
mortonjag 2008-03-27 06:54:41
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 27 2008, 06:50 AM) [snapback]426367[/snapback]
I feel better now.

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Give it time!
mortonjag 2008-03-27 07:01:43
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 26 2008, 08:47 PM) [snapback]426231[/snapback]
the policies see morton in 9th place though unsure.gif

You're confusing me Trumpet-I'm easily confused-are you blaming Morton's miserable form on Mortonjag, or on my big bro Auld Shoogly?
mortonjag 2008-03-27 07:06:35
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 26 2008, 09:13 PM) [snapback]426236[/snapback]
do they have an army of staff ?

or is their average age greater than that of even mortonjag ?

Is mortonjag officially an OAP ?

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Mortonjag is simply a 'P'!

He is entitled to a bus P which he does not use, but has yet to receive a P from the state.


QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 26 2008, 09:15 PM) [snapback]426238[/snapback]
They WOOD if they could.

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and it's good night from me.

And it's goodnight from him!
mortonjag 2008-03-27 07:13:08
QUOTE(stuart @ Mar 26 2008, 11:43 PM) [snapback]426293[/snapback]
I think I drove through the new speed limit on the A77 at 60 on the way to the Clyde match. I thought the limit was still 70 so went through at 60 but they had changed it to 50 the day before. It was average speed cameras and am just waiting for the thing to come through the door. Although they are a little slow, in the meantime I have applied for a replacement license and got it ok. Wish they would hurry up and get it over with.

Thanks for the warning-I use the A77 a lot but haven't been down in the last few weeks. Did they give any prior warning?

They normally won't book unless you're >10% over the limit. I'd argue the case if you're 'done'.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 07:15:48
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 26 2008, 10:42 PM) [snapback]426258[/snapback]
mortonjag, I've seen you mention numerous times that neither McAlister or Finlayson are wingers... where would you play them?

Haven't a clue-that seems to be the problem managers have too.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 07:17:50
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 26 2008, 09:33 AM) [snapback]425790[/snapback]
I don't think the current Morton side can win must-win games so I don't think we'd do well in any of them.

Despite the new management team?
mortonjag 2008-03-27 07:24:01
QUOTE(Rossco @ Mar 27 2008, 12:12 AM) [snapback]426330[/snapback]
Think the key thing is that Keenan has been playing well in the 2nd division.

I'm sorry if this upsets the Keenan fans but think that is his level.

I don't rate McLaughlin either but if the only 2 people going for that position are him & Keenan then its Scott who gets my vote.

This kind of argument confuses me-I'm told Jenkins and McGuffie played quite well in the SPL.

Keenan and McLaughlin are chalk and cheese-Scott's a great guy to have when you've got 15 minutes left and are two up.

Deano's the man to add a bit of much needed fire when you're two down.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 07:27:39
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Mar 27 2008, 12:27 AM) [snapback]426340[/snapback]
I pray those who make the decisions aren't following this train of thought as this is the view that has got us in this position in the first place.

It was clear to most on here that major surgery was required last summer but Doogie insisted "these boys deserve a chance." Well, we're now reaping the "rewards" of giving them that chance.

This team better be gutted in the close season, irrespective of what league we're in.

If we go down Mr Rae will have to shoulder the brunt of it after the shambles of the summer. mad.gif dry.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-27 07:30:27
QUOTE(axeman @ Mar 26 2008, 08:42 PM) [snapback]426230[/snapback]
Personally I think they going to let them limp through to the split & then it doesn't affect Euro places or the top 6. Having done this the SPL will wash their hands of them & they'll go bust.

The SPL seem to be running the Administration-the Administrator is IMHO guilty of serious professional misconduct-possibly of worse.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 07:32:20
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 26 2008, 10:48 PM) [snapback]426263[/snapback]
Hey, he didnae phone me, you have my number mortonjag! smile.gif



QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 27 2008, 01:04 AM) [snapback]426353[/snapback]
im playing hard to get.

Ma two wee boys! wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-27 07:44:11
QUOTE(dazed @ Mar 27 2008, 07:13 AM) [snapback]426373[/snapback]
Im not trying to be backhanded, just my honest opinion, she hasnt got it right......yet, all Im saying is others have had a lot longer and still stuffed it up ...give the SNP government a chance, if they dont get it sorted then by all means attack them.

That seems reasonable except for one thing.

It's widely accepted that in any 'takeover'-whether it just be stepping into somebody else's job (e.g. new headmaster), or taking over a going concern, it's prudent to change very little for the first six months to one year. That allows time for careful consideration of what's needed, and for 'acceptance' of the new face.

The SNP in general, and Ms Sturgeon in particular seem to have done the opposite. For a rookie party in power, they appear to have gone on an ego polishing glory trip. I comment on the NHS because I understand the NHS.

If I sincerely believed for ONE MINUTE that Sturgeon gave a toss about genuine need I'd give her some credit.

She plainly doesn't, but then she's a politician, not a real person
mortonjag 2008-03-27 07:47:43

Independent MSP Margo MacDonald last night called for the law to be changed to allow her to end her life if her Parkinson's disease becomes unbearably painful.

In a moving contribution to a Holyrood debate on assisted suicide, she said she did not want to be a burden.

The Lothian MSP told the Scottish Parliament: "As you know I have a degenerative condition, and I would like to have the right to determine by how much my capacity to fulfil my social function, my familial functions, my personal functions is going to be truncated.

"And I would like to have the ability to take that decision. I don't want to burden any doctor. I don't want to burden any friend or family member.
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"I want to find a way in which I can take the decision to end my life in case I'm unlucky enough to have the worst form of Parkinson's near the end of life."

She said that palliative care, providing pain relief and a range of support for those with terminal conditions, was not always effective: "I am mindful of that, and I may be unlucky." Urging MSPs to change the law, she said: "There are many, many people who have a lot less time than I have."

Ms MacDonald said: "We're just accepting now that it its possible to make that decision when you are in sound mind and it can be taken in a measured capacity."

The outspoken politician first discovered she had Parkinson's disease 13 years ago.

In an interview last year, she said one side of her body was affected more than the other which caused her to walk "in a lumbering way".

Speaking last May when she had put her hat into the ring to be appointed as Holyrood's new Presiding Officer, she said she didn't see her condition as a stumbling block. "I wouldn't have made the offer if I didn't think I could do it and once I'm back into my routine of regular exercise, I'll be a lot better."

The debate yesterday was part of a campaign to change the law being led by Jeremy Purvis, LibDem MSP for Tweeddale, Ettrick and Lauderdale. In the first Holyrood debate on the issue since 2004, he called for a parliamentary committee inquiry into the case for a new law.

The strongest resistance came from Catholic MSPs. The SNP's Roseanna Cunningham warned of Dutch precedent that showed the intent to use the law in exceptional circumstances has become routine, saying the proposal was "profoundly mistaken and leads us down a very dangerous road".

mortonjag 2008-03-27 08:40:44
QUOTE(stuart @ Mar 27 2008, 07:53 AM) [snapback]426386[/snapback]
There are 50 mph signs just before you get to the three average speed cameras. Apparently it was discussed a lot on the radio and Ayrshire Post but I don't buy it or listen to it.

Just at Monkton roundabout.

Are they permanent or just for road works or something?

Incidentally-and I can't verify this-I've heard it said that if you enter and leave a speed camera controlled section in different lanes-you are not clocked.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 08:45:36
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 27 2008, 08:10 AM) [snapback]426388[/snapback]
surely his primary fiduciary duty is to the creditors ?

not to the SPL.

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If he is knowingly disadvantaging the creditors he is guilty of serious professional conduct. If he has been induced to do so, he is guilty of criminal behaviour.

It's a sad state of affairs-folk can see exactly what's going on, yet seem powerless to stop it.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 08:49:20
QUOTE(irvineTON @ Mar 27 2008, 08:28 AM) [snapback]426393[/snapback]
I fully agree, most switched-on Ton fan could see with that squad of players we were gonna struggle badly. The powers within our club for some reason chose to ignore this or actually thought we could compete! unsure.gif

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He thought we could compete and was 'up for it'!


mortonjag 2008-03-27 08:53:05
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 27 2008, 08:45 AM) [snapback]426396[/snapback]
Yes, despite the new management team. There are simply too many bottlers in the squad.

Hopefully the management team can identify them over the summer.

We didn't bottle the away cup tie against Gretna-we were very good for ninety minutes, and neutrals were pretty impressed.

An effective new management should surely be able to get the best from the squad, and the best seems 'no too bad'.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 08:56:23
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 27 2008, 08:50 AM) [snapback]426399[/snapback]
So you are now suggesting Keenan is the difference between winning and losing? I can't think of one single time that Keenan has influenced a game to turn it in our favour, quite the opposite infact.

That's quite simply because you don't want to see it!

Not all is always black or white.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 08:57:44
QUOTE(jimmy boag delivers @ Mar 27 2008, 08:56 AM) [snapback]426406[/snapback]
In an article on Gretna today, The Sun has re-iterated that Innes is likely to sign a three year deal with Morton.

Innes has NOT!
mortonjag 2008-03-27 09:13:52
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 27 2008, 08:20 AM) [snapback]426390[/snapback]
After my great-uncle went a bit daft just before he died my uncle made me promise I'd end it for him if he went the same way. I don't see a problem with euthanasia but I can understand a doctor's reluctance to perform it as it would go against their hippocratic oath would it not? (another one for MJ there)

I can also understand the church's view's against it but church, state, clear distinction.



The Hippocratic Oath is an oath traditionally taken by physicians pertaining to the ethical practice of medicine. It is widely believed that the oath was written by Hippocrates, the father of medicine, in the 4th century BC, or by one of his students. It is thus usually included in the Hippocratic Corpus. Classical scholar Ludwig Edelstein proposed that the oath was written by Pythagoreans, a theory that has been questioned due to the lack of evidence for a school of Pythagorean medicine. Although mostly of historical and traditional value, the oath is considered a rite of passage for practitioners of medicine, although it is not obligatory and no longer taken up by all physicians.


Even when I graduated in the early seventies, the 'Oath' was just read out to us, and we were asked to raise our hands if we accepted it.


Medical practice in this country is controlled by the General Medical Council, who have the powers to strike doctors off the list.


Even if a doctor had been found guilty of a 'criminal' act in an assisted suicide, the GMC would have powers to keep him ON the list, if it was convinced he'd acted with the consent of, and in the best interests of his patients.

We had a similar debate recently. My ex wife has suffered from MS for some twenty years now and is severely disabled. We are still on good terms, and I would have no hesitation in assisting her, if she felt she could no longer go on.

It's fine for Holy Willies to pontificate, and medicophobes to get their wee digs in. Ultimately dedicated doctors will ALWAYS act in their patients best interests-NO MATTER WHAT POLITICIANS DO.




mortonjag 2008-03-27 09:15:41
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Mar 27 2008, 08:21 AM) [snapback]426391[/snapback]
Then he asked me who I really support and what school I went to laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-27 09:21:11
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 27 2008, 09:02 AM) [snapback]426412[/snapback]
Interesting point. Incidentally, I emailed the SPL a coup,e of weeks ago but they still haven't replied. Nor have the SFL.

Speak to your local MP Alibi-this matter is of huge concern to many people down there-many many 'little people' are suffering financial duress because of this bullying behaviour.

A communication from your MP will soon get them off their complacent arses.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 09:30:15
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 27 2008, 08:59 AM) [snapback]426409[/snapback]
Wilson Field, the administrators, are from Sheffield, and I read on another forum that they have been involved with other Mileson companies. It is the company that appoints its own administrators. Is there anything dodgy in the fact that the administrators seem to have a cosy wee relationship with Mileson?

(2) The administrator will vacate office if-

(a) he ceases to be qualified to act as an insolvency practitioner in relation to the company, or



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mortonjag 2008-03-27 09:58:57
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 27 2008, 08:59 AM) [snapback]426409[/snapback]
Wilson Field, the administrators, are from Sheffield, and I read on another forum that they have been involved with other Mileson companies. It is the company that appoints its own administrators. Is there anything dodgy in the fact that the administrators seem to have a cosy wee relationship with Mileson?

290.4 Audit work previously undertaken for a company or individual to which an
appointment is being considered
Where the Insolvency Practitioner or a practice has previously carried out audit
work within the previous 3 years for a company or individual to which the
appointment is being considered, the Insolvency Practitioner should not accept an
appointment.


From the Institute of Chartered Accountants (England and Wales).
mortonjag 2008-03-27 10:09:16
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 27 2008, 09:46 AM) [snapback]426428[/snapback]
As far as I am aware non one on here is in a position to say whether the administrator is acting to the detriment of creditors with the possible exception of Alibi but he is, being brutal, just another creditor and probably not privy to much more info than anyone else.

If the SPL money would have been due at the end of the season anyway (TV money etc) whether the club ceased playing or not, then there might be an argument that the administrator is prejudicing creditors rights by using money to keep going. Its more likely that there would have been no money if they fold due to breach of contract.

The administrator can't keep everyone happy and he walks a tightrope. Fortunately for him, the law recognises that and is pretty understanding towards them. A creditor goign against him would have an uphill struggle.

As an experienced funambulist, what is your GUT FEELING?

The integrity of your profession surely depends on fairness being SEEN to be applied, yet you talk as though the thing is effectively a 'closed shop'.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 10:19:18
QUOTE(C B @ Mar 27 2008, 10:11 AM) [snapback]426436[/snapback]
but "to be honest" all the other teams had "a couple of good players"

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mortonjag 2008-03-27 10:46:30 Anyway-happy birthday young man, and many happy returns of the day from a demented old fud! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-27 10:58:54
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Mar 27 2008, 10:49 AM) [snapback]426443[/snapback]
I'm not saying Finlayson is any worse than the rest of them, and I'm not even saying he shouldn't be in the current starting line-up. What i am saying is that we need a far higher quality of player to properly compete at this level. And that doesn't just go for Finlayson.

Furthermore we're top heavy with midfielders and if we're going to make room for others we'll have to shed some of them. Has Stuart Greacen not indicated already that he's 'off' anyway?
mortonjag 2008-03-27 11:03:42
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Mar 27 2008, 10:44 AM) [snapback]426441[/snapback]
Seriously though, that's not the point. Sky is a commercial organisation that can broadcast wherever it's satellite footprint goes. Folk pick it up in Poland.

The only way to stop Sky broadcasting its insipid pish is to block the satellite pictures coming into Scotland. No government in the current environment of de-regulation is going to allow that to happen.

The key thing is that WDE has a choice which he is exercising, and paying for it as well. Does he listen to considered news and comment on either Radio Scotland or Radio 4, or does he watch sky news? Or are you suggesting that Independence will put an end to that freedom of choice. If its that much of a problem for him he can cancel the subscription.

Independence may cure many ills but it won't stop people paying shedloads of cash to keep an Australian pensioner in incontinence pants.

.....although all Scottish pensioners will have an unlimited supply on demand.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 11:07:46
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 27 2008, 11:04 AM) [snapback]426446[/snapback]
Is Craig Charleston, guy who did the injury time defeat at Cappielow against Clyde.





Craig Charleston

Date of Birth: 8 May 1970

Height: 5' 10"

Weight: 12 stone

Profession: Traffic Operator

First ever match: 4th Division of the South London Sunday League at Hackney Marshes between a team fro a Turkish restaurant and a team of Nigerians. Hardly anyone could speak English, including me !!!!

First international match: n/a

What does being a football referee mean to you? It does take over your life at times, matches, training, meetings etc but you make a lot of friends and keeps you fit.

Why did you become a referee? I was in the police in London at the time and couldn't commit to a team because of shift work but still wanted an involvement in football so took a referees course, never dreaming I would get to this level.

Would you have wished to become a full-time referee? Yes, in heartbeat.

Any pet hates in football? John Motson, Jimmy Hill, 1966 and all that!!!

What Law of the Game would you change? The player leaving the field of play after an injury, it can sometimes leave the Referee looking a bit pedantic.

The most difficult Law to apply? You can play a great advantage then the player makes a hash of it leaving you looking stupid.

Your best memory in football? Being at France 1998, fantastic. In refereeing it would be officiating at grounds I went to as a spectator i.e. Hampden et, and refereeing an old firm reserve game.

Other sports or hobbies? Football, Football - and Football !!!!

Your main strength? Being able to communicate well with players.

And main weaknesses? Being too laid back at times.

What's in your car CD player? Take That and Bros !!!

Beer or wine? Lager

Favourite film? All the American Pie movies

Tastiest food? Chinese

Favourite holiday destination? Tenerife (with my mates in the early 90's - (oh the memories)

Luck or judgement? Lucky Judgement

Dress up or dress down? Y cardigans and grey stay press trousers, bring back the 80's

Whom would you most like to meet? Abi Titmuss drunk on a Saturday night !

Ambitions? To do as well as I can to justify the faith shown in me by getting to this level

Any advice for young referees? Enjoy it, be strong and if you're good enough you'll get there.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 11:35:59
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 27 2008, 11:17 AM) [snapback]426449[/snapback]
Purely from a technical point of view I don't think that's feasible as it's impossible to limit a satellite's footprint to within national borders.

Legally you can only receive Sky broadcasts from the AstraII satellite from within in the UK and Ireland as that is the limit of their broadcasting license. Their way of enforcing this is to only send decoder cards to UK and Irish adresses.

However if you have a decorder and card can you can receive Sky in most of western Europe without a problem as the AstraII footprint is much larger than the UK and Ireland. Some channels like the BBC ones have a weaker signal to try to minimise the footprint but it's still very easy to pick up. Worst case is that you might lose the weaker channels in a heavy thunderstorm, for example. Apparently there are some ex-pats living in Europe who register with friends and relatives in the UK and have their decoder cards mailed to them in the post. ohmy.gif

That is rather naughty.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 11:42:52
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Mar 27 2008, 11:24 AM) [snapback]426451[/snapback]
The administrator is not acting in a criminal way at all - however it can certainly be argued that he is not acting in the benefit of the creditors. I have advised Alibi before that he should consider reporting the administator to his Institute. Also Gretna are paying the administator nothing, however the longer things go on the bigger the fee he can take. That is essentially what this is all about imo - he is trying to get as big a fee as possible out of the clubs assets.

Edited to add - just noticed Tonsilitis' post above - he is obviously correct in what he says, it is very hard for him to please everyone. It would undoubtably be very difficult to go against the administrator, but if Alibi feels like he is being prejudiced in anyway then he should consult with the administrators Institute to try to ascertain if he is acting improperly.

Can you say that with complete confidence? Are you party to the goings on between the SPL and Administrator?

It's maybe a wee bit naive to believe that the SPL would be 'above' an inducement to the Administrator.

Things like that DO happen in real life.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 11:45:38
QUOTE(BishopTon @ Mar 27 2008, 11:41 AM) [snapback]426456[/snapback]
This is true MortonJag, if you change lanes then your speed will not be obeserved over a set measured disatnce and as such it wont register, always too scared to try it though !

However they are in the process of upgrading the system at the moment so that this will not work anymore.

DRAT!!!


BTW will your wee avatar ever get there? I love his resolve.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 11:50:46
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Mar 27 2008, 11:49 AM) [snapback]426461[/snapback]
I agree. Fortunately I have cable.

Have you tied up a deal?
mortonjag 2008-03-27 12:19:51
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Mar 27 2008, 11:35 AM) [snapback]426453[/snapback]
At the end of the day I would prefer this decision to be taken by those most affected ie the person with the illness. I cannot think of anything more hypocritcal than a member of parliament condemning others to suffer the indignity and pain that a long term degenerative illness involves in order to salve their personal religious views. The church does not own my body and should have absolutely no right to determine what I choose to do with it.


Roseanna Cunningham is a lawyer by profession, and Deputy Convener of the Cross-Party Group in the Scottish Parliament on Palliative Care.

In opposing Margot's motion I'd suggest she is clearly unfit to serve on such a committee.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 12:56:03
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 27 2008, 12:47 PM) [snapback]426481[/snapback]
Another day, another attack on the SNP.

EH-Margot WAS bloody SNP in the good old days.

Her heartfelt motion is being opposed by a woman on account of her religious persuasion-nothing more and nothing less.

When indoctrination prevails over compassion Spurtle, the indoctrinee has no place on a committee dealing with the terminally ill-irrespective of political leaning.

As I've said before-all politics is scum.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 13:05:19 It's a sudden shock apparently-difficult to cope with, but hopefully Mr Irons senior had no suffering.

People who really want to show support to Davie have the opportunity to do so on Saturday-and I say 'Well done' to him for his application to the task in hand.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 13:20:27
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 27 2008, 01:13 PM) [snapback]426492[/snapback]
He is now an American pensioner.

Purely for the money.

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An incontinent American pensioner, apparently.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 13:31:23
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Mar 27 2008, 01:28 PM) [snapback]426502[/snapback]
They've retained a playing staff of 16!

It is indeed a farce, and a shameful farce at that.


f*** THE SPL.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 16:10:18
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 27 2008, 03:00 PM) [snapback]426524[/snapback]
Can I take it then that we have NOT signed Innes? Can I take it also that in line with virtually every transfer story over the last 2 years, we will not be signing him? No jokes or wind ups please, what is the actual situation? Does anyone actually know?

That's my take. If Rae signs anybody right now on a three year contract and 1k a week, and Crawford can't afford to fix the rusty turnstyles, there's something far wrong.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 16:14:23
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 27 2008, 01:36 PM) [snapback]426504[/snapback]
I understood that he is trans-continent or inter-continent.

One could make a tastless pun about Mrs Murdoch.

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Don't know how she can bear Rupert?
mortonjag 2008-03-27 17:23:59
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Mar 27 2008, 04:35 PM) [snapback]426551[/snapback]
This is the latest take on the Innes situation. Basically, it's out of the Club's hands at the moment. sad.gif

http://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/articles/2/21739

1k per week over three years indeed! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-27 17:24:49
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 27 2008, 04:29 PM) [snapback]426544[/snapback]
Or you know...priorities in certain places like staying in the division wink.gif

A three year contract for four weeks work-aye right! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-27 17:27:49
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 27 2008, 04:33 PM) [snapback]426550[/snapback]
By f*** your a funny guy eh ?

I don't pay 10 times less in my licience fee than those in England, yet I get an inferior service.

So you answer is rather being able to watch programes of relevance to me on TV, I have to listen to the radio ? Aye, brill !

Ya fukin weapon !!!

Aye and folk in Skelmorlie pay the same for the Tilly as Greenockians-don't see much about that wee toon in the paper.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 17:39:05
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 27 2008, 05:08 PM) [snapback]426558[/snapback]
There's no pressure in the cup.

Really?

Well maybe there SHOULD BE, given that Thistle are going to wipe out their £300,000 debt on the strength of their run, while we just don't seem able to spend anything those days.


I fail to see the point you're trying to make-I merely suggested that if the new management team can instil the frame of mind present against Gretna at Palmerston, we'd do much better.

Surely that is what they were expected to do.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 17:43:13
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 27 2008, 05:39 PM) [snapback]426571[/snapback]
Let me give you a clue - Heather Mills.

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Is about to marry Rupert the Bear because she's just discovered true love, and big honeypots.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 17:54:59
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 27 2008, 05:47 PM) [snapback]426576[/snapback]
Heather would not even get through a Dirty Digger pre-nup.

After 5 or 6 pages, she'd be legless.

AGAIN-she'd end up just having to bum around I guess.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 17:56:59
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 27 2008, 05:49 PM) [snapback]426581[/snapback]
Gidday Edinton,

It wissnae deuce, it was sauce.

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What's sauce for the deuce.....
mortonjag 2008-03-27 17:59:04
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 27 2008, 05:30 PM) [snapback]426564[/snapback]
if he helped keep us up then he'd need to do it again next year.

And if he didn't he'd be the wealthiest player in Division 2-bar none!
mortonjag 2008-03-27 18:07:21
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 27 2008, 06:03 PM) [snapback]426589[/snapback]
5 am - time for me bike.

bye

Beware of saucy snappers!
mortonjag 2008-03-27 18:10:43
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 27 2008, 06:05 PM) [snapback]426591[/snapback]
if we're relegated i'd hope we had the wealthiest players in the 2nd division. He'd also be the best defender in the 2nd division bar none!

Our wealthy second division players took a long time to become not so wealthy first division players.


Perhaps the money could have been spent more prudently!
mortonjag 2008-03-27 18:14:04
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Mar 27 2008, 12:53 PM) [snapback]426483[/snapback]
I also recieved a lovely text from my brother this morning reminding me that most of the current Morton Squad are younger than me .. Thanks a million hahahaha

Indeed-they are but babies in Bukta.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 18:18:31
QUOTE(axeman @ Mar 27 2008, 06:15 PM) [snapback]426598[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(C B @ Mar 27 2008, 10:05 AM) [snapback]426433[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->HE'S DEED !!!
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Naw, I think he's still knocking about in Portugal at the age of 88. smile.gif



Clive Robert Dunn OBE (born 9 January 1920) is a retired English actor, singer and entertainer best known for his role as Lance-Corporal Jack Jones in the BBC sitcom Dad's Army, and Sam Cobbett in the Yorkshire Television sitcom My Old Man.

Born in London, a cousin of actress Gretchen Franklin, Dunn played small film roles from the 1930s onwards. After a break for service in the army in World War II, in the course of which he spent four years in prisoner-of-war camps and labour camps in Austria, he worked for many years in music halls and theatres. In 1956 and 1957, Dunn appeared in The Tony Hanc*** Show. In the 1960s he made many appearances with Tony Hanc***, Michael Bentine, Dora Bryan and Dick Emery, among others, before winning the role of Jones in Dad's Army in 1968.

From an early time his trademark character was that of a doddering old man. This first made an impression in the show Bootsie and Snudge, a spinoff from The Army Game. Dunn played the old dogsbody at a slightly seedy gentlemen's club where the characters Pvt. "Bootsie" Bisley (Alfie Bass) and Sgt. Claude Snudge (Bill Fraser) found work after leaving the Army.

In 1967 he made a guest appearance in an episode of The Avengers, playing the proprietor of a toy shop in "Something Nasty in the Nursery".

Dunn was actually one of the younger members of the cast, at 48, when he took on the role of the elderly butcher whose military service in earlier wars made him the most experienced member of the Walmington-on-Sea Home Guard, as well as being one of the most decrepit.

Dunn's strong Socialist beliefs often caused him to fall out with Arthur Lowe, who was a committed Conservative and played Captain George Mainwaring. In fact, when the series ended and Dunn finally accepted an OBE, after many offers, it was reported that Lowe would only accept a higher-rated honour from the Queen.[3] It is reported that Tom Stoppard is currently writing a play about this clash of ideas and politics in the early 1970s.[citation needed]

After Dad's Army ended, Dunn capitalised on the role by playing the title character in the children's TV series Grandad, from 1979 to 1984. He had previously had a number one hit single with the song "Grandad" in 1971, accompanied by a children's choir. He performed the song four times on Top of the Pops. The B-side of "Grandad", "I Play The Spoons", also received considerable airplay. After the cancellation of Grandad in 1984, he effectively disappeared from the screen, retiring to Portugal.[
mortonjag 2008-03-27 18:47:30
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 27 2008, 06:23 PM) [snapback]426605[/snapback]
in the last two years our wealthy second division players finished above everyone else with lesser budgets than us.

Money talks. I'd rather we spent more on wages than any other team in the 2nd division.

A fool and his money are easily parted!
mortonjag 2008-03-27 18:54:27 Doesn't seem to be much enthusiasm for the Ton those days, yet less than a year ago we were flying high.

Nobody seems to even want to talk about our forthcoming match at Palmerston, yet the vague possibility of a decent signing produces threads that run to pages.


I believe we've been sold down the river.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 18:58:36
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 27 2008, 06:52 PM) [snapback]426620[/snapback]
i told you that you should never have bought that dodgy viagra online from that junk email you were sent, but did you listen??? noooooooo.

I have free access to viagra, should it ever become necessary young man. If I can stand for 90 minutes at places like Station and Stairs parks in the freezing cold, I reckon I'm doing OK!
mortonjag 2008-03-27 19:02:01
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Mar 27 2008, 06:58 PM) [snapback]426626[/snapback]
Have I missed something? blink.gif

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I just found the term 'the brunt' to be a slight understatement!
mortonjag 2008-03-27 19:05:48
QUOTE(cmdc @ Mar 27 2008, 07:00 PM) [snapback]426628[/snapback]
Don't know what you mena by 'sold down the river', but in my case its just a case of waiting for a disappointing season to finally end, looking forward to the summer, and hoping the new management team can kick on from there.

The Innes rumour doesn't seem to have come from the club, who have been playing it down...more likely an agent wary that he has to give bigger clubs notice that time is running out to sign him!

I agree about the Innes rumour-in fact I agree very strongly-money is not being spent-we have spent no REAL money since we won promotion.

We were promised that the existing squad would 'take us forward' and it has not.

I call that having been 'sold down the river'.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 19:09:07
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 27 2008, 07:02 PM) [snapback]426631[/snapback]
i feel espescially bad for you MJ. even when everyone else was extremely happy last year you were still on here moaning about absolutely everything. must have been a while since you've been happy. sad.gif

come here and give me a hug.

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Well that's not entirely true though I was consistent in my criticism of JM and Shoogly-oh and Mileson.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 19:10:59
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 27 2008, 07:05 PM) [snapback]426633[/snapback]
Of course you do.

I believe the fans have expected far too much personally. Most seemed to have expected us to come in and hold our own when really were were going to be underdogs about 8/9 games we played.

You apparently don't.

Congratulations Puggs-you are very easily satisfied!
mortonjag 2008-03-27 19:12:28
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 27 2008, 07:06 PM) [snapback]426636[/snapback]
Enthusiasm ?? blink.gif Err..I think you'll find we are a midge's widgie of heading for the playoff's ! Why be enthusiastic about that ? dry.gif

EXACTLY!

Shoogly has done his best though.

I am quite convinced that it true.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 19:13:54
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 27 2008, 07:12 PM) [snapback]426642[/snapback]
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the most interesting part about that post was that you edited it. i want to know what mistake you made! SPILL.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 19:22:42
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Mar 27 2008, 07:16 PM) [snapback]426645[/snapback]
I agree on ditching Stevenson, McAnespie and Wake, but I was talking about the players whose contracts are running out.

Greacen and Harding, while not brilliant, have shown a clear improvement since Irons took over; it's incredible what a manager with a brain can get out of a player. If we find ourselves in the 2nd Division, it's not likely we'll be able to find anyone better, so keep them.

McGurn isn't a bad goalkeeper, but has had a crisis of confidence this season - understandable given the amount of times he's been fucked about by the club. He was one of the better keepers in the 2nd Division, and is capable of doing a job for us in the First. Not great, but we should hang onto him.

Finlayson has adapted to the First Division excellently, and we should definitely keep him. Proved he can do a job, and I'm surprised he's not been given a new contract already.

I agree on punting McLaughlin - average 2nd Division player.

I'd keep Keenan, he did well when he was in the team the season, and he's a superior player to McLaughlin. If we play 5 in midfield next season, I wouldn't be surprised to see Keenan getting a game.

They play entirely different games. McLaughlin escapes criticism AND praise because he can go through a match so anonymously while still putting in a fair shift. Folk are always going to be turned off by Deano's 'gung ho' style with its inevitable blunders, but in so doing they turn a blind eye to the fact that he can be very direct and effective-something you could never say of Scott.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 19:25:42
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Mar 27 2008, 07:19 PM) [snapback]426647[/snapback]
Reminds me of a story a Celtic supporting mate of mine told me a few years back, well maybe 20.

Celtic were playing Rangers in the cup final and the Celtic fans were singing ''I'd rather wear a turban than a sash''

And there was a big muslim Glasgow Bus driver with his green bus drivers jaiket and badge and green turban belting out the words and giving it laldy enjoying being the centre of attention.



Is that a Sikh joke?
mortonjag 2008-03-27 20:51:25
QUOTE(leyTON @ Mar 27 2008, 08:40 PM) [snapback]426672[/snapback]
im with you davie
i dont like that people are saying it isnt a big deal the monarchy - for me it is and condmening the whole nationalist sector of scotland to a half baked notion of theier, beliefs, based on the opinions of one man salmond, who likes the queen
dont try and dodge it alibi etc, your man can make mistakes sometimes



Do you really believe he 'likes' the monarchy. That's surely a conundrum-or maybe not. I'm sure he'd LOVE to be crowned King Bawheid the first at Scone.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 21:16:13
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 27 2008, 09:11 PM) [snapback]426684[/snapback]
I think we were due a bit of humble pie from Dougie last week . He was as bullish this year as he was at Kirkaldy months before .

We saw the limitations of McInally and the false interpretations of a squad who struggled to win promotion from a part time league .

I don't think the new management team have enough time and they must have been surprised at the task in hand with an inbalanced squad who haven't been allowed to learn their trade with enough experience around them .

More chance of hell freezing over Chris!
mortonjag 2008-03-27 21:49:18
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 27 2008, 09:19 PM) [snapback]426690[/snapback]
The monarchy and independence are two separate issues entirely.

What we have to achieve is first and end to the union of parliaments. In other words independence.
Then we can work on an end of the union of crowns.

Trying to end the two in the one go is a step too far.There are nationalist monarchists, and quite simply,we need their votes in a referendum.

Bawheid needs the Queen!
mortonjag 2008-03-27 22:04:38
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 27 2008, 09:33 PM) [snapback]426700[/snapback]
Please do not allow a little learning fron the web to make you an authority.

Firstly there is a regulation preventing any insolveny practitioner taking an appointment from someone he has had a non insolvency relationship with said company or group in the last three years. That applies to anyone with an insolvency ticket including either the 'F' ers i.e the FCA's from England or proper Chartered Accountants from Scotland (CA's). I think that Wilson Field have been involved in insolvency matters with other Mileson companies and nothing else. They are not therefore prevented from taking the Gretna appointment.

Ceasing as an IP means losing your ticket normally and that is not going to apply anytime soon to Wilson Field.

Facts are that the administrator is trying to save Gretna. If he uses a bit of creditors money to do that, he will get away with it. Sorry but them's the rules!

I'm not conscious of having suggested I'm 'an authority'! rolleyes.gif Have I been a naughty boy in attempting to enter the closed shop?

Fact is Tonsilitis that it's entirely natural to defend your own profession. That does NOT mean that the defence is always justified.

As a humble lay observer I am puzzled by the purported motives. It's easy for the Administrator to claim he's 'trying to save Gretna' when it suits the SPL to dish out enough cash to satisfy THEIR needs. I don't for one minute believe he realistically sees salvation as an option-do you?

mortonjag 2008-03-27 22:12:49
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Mar 27 2008, 10:02 PM) [snapback]426715[/snapback]
In a nutshell. 2 managers now don't seem to rate him in the position, I certainly don't, and he can't get in the side currently in any position. He's a prime candidate for the chop in the summer - how he got a new contract after only playing in about 7 games last season I'll never know.

Walker has just been another victim of JM's millions of midfielders policy. You've got a short memory. Before his injury he had played his way back into the team and was doing fine thanks. Potentially better than Keenan, McLaughlin, and McGregor in a midfield role.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 22:18:23
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Mar 27 2008, 10:13 PM) [snapback]426721[/snapback]
This could actually be our saving grace. Being involved in 6 pointers in the closing fixtures could be the kiss of death.
Clyde are a better side than us. They've been established in the 1st Div for years whilst we've been pissing about he lower leagues so to suggest we're a better team than them is arrogant and false. Up until our recent aquisitions in the transfer market we had virtually an entire squad untried above 2nd Div level yet some halfwits on here tipped us for a top 4 finish. We were always going to finish bottom two and the recent transfer activity has most probably came too late to save us from relegation via the play-offs.

Well done Mr Rae, your boys got their chance. dry.gif
Biggest problem imo is some of the more vocal supporters have moved to the old away end, dividing the support. If we all bunched together in the home end things would improve drastically.

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We haven't-YET!!!!! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-27 22:26:48
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 27 2008, 10:17 PM) [snapback]426724[/snapback]

Douglas McShoogle?
mortonjag 2008-03-27 22:33:13
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 27 2008, 10:30 PM) [snapback]426736[/snapback]
should ban you for that awful joke laugh.gif tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-27 22:44:16
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 27 2008, 10:36 PM) [snapback]426740[/snapback]
Ladies and Gentlemen of this message board.

The definition of irony!

Now lets not talk about the NHS or Doctors! ph34r.gif

What are you yabbering about child?

When have I EVER blindly defended any individual doctor on his management of a case?

Grow up!

mortonjag 2008-03-27 22:51:30
QUOTE(Magic Mathie @ Mar 27 2008, 10:30 PM) [snapback]426735[/snapback]
I love Morton but never so much that I have a tent in my trousers...does that 'come' with wisdom and age?

It's hard on us aged souls, having to stand for 90 minutes, but we always believe the Ton will come good in the end.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 22:53:36
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 27 2008, 10:50 PM) [snapback]426745[/snapback]
I'm the same.

There's more to following the Ton than seeing good football.


Have I just said something obvious?
mortonjag 2008-03-27 22:55:53
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 27 2008, 10:48 PM) [snapback]426743[/snapback]
He got a new contract because McInally couldn't find a defender, so he turned Alex Walker into one. dry.gif

....thereby hindering his development as a midfielder. I've often wondered how many careers have been set back three years by JM's incompetence.
mortonjag 2008-03-27 22:58:01
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Mar 27 2008, 10:46 PM) [snapback]426742[/snapback]
Thanks Again Everyone , Been trying to avoid this Birthday as Pugs says Im an old Fogey now lol .. 27 may not be old but Im only 3years away from 30 and thats scary !!
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Only as old as the women you feel Scotty boy! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-27 23:13:38
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 27 2008, 11:01 PM) [snapback]426757[/snapback]
You honestly think an administrator in such a high profile case as this would carry out his work in an in-proper way and risk their job?

The guy will be doing everything by the book. Regardless of what it looks like to you!

Think you need to grow up.

You DARE to use the term irony, and come out with that!


There are crooks in every profession young man-including my own, and they inevitably think they will never get caught.


As Tonsilitis says, the Adminstrator has been appointed to attempt to keep Gretna afloat. That is his ultimate 'get out'.

It is not only myself who is asking serious questions about the handling of the matter, and I'll repeat the question I put earlier.

Do you think the Administrator seriously believes he's going to keep them afloat?
mortonjag 2008-03-28 06:30:19 AND NOTHING BUT A PACK OF LIES??


Former Scottish Socialist Party MSP Tommy Sheridan and his wife Gail appeared in court yesterday charged with perjury.

The couple, both aged 44, were greeted by a throng of supporters as they arrived at Edinburgh Sheriff Court, where they appeared separately and in private.

Neither made any plea or declaration and they were released on bail.

The Crown now must bring a prosecution within a year. Sources close to the case said this is unlikely to happen before the end of this year.


In line with what The Herald revealed last Saturday, charges against Mrs Sheridan of allegedly stealing a quantity of alcohol miniatures from her employer, British Airways, did not feature during her court appearance yesterday.

Mr Sheridan, a former MSP for Glasgow and leader of the SSP, was arrested in December after an investigation into allegations of lying under oath during his successful £200,000 defamation action against the News of the World.

His wife was charged with perjury by police last month.

The Sheridans arrived at court at about 11.45am yesterday. Supporters gave a huge cheer and applauded as they came out of the court building.

About 30 members of Mr Sheridan's Solidarity party staged a protest outside the court, holding aloft banners declaring: "Tommy and Gail Your Friends Are With You."


In a statement outside the court, the couple's lawyer, Aamar Anwar, said: "Both Mr and Mrs Sheridan appeared on petition in private at Edinburgh Sheriff Court. They were charged with perjury and made no plea or declaration.

"I would like to emphasise that there was no charge of theft on the petition.

"The Sheridans would like to thank all of those who have sent hundreds of cards. They are humbled and honoured to receive such generosity."

Mr Sheridan, who left the Scottish Socialist Party to form Solidarity, won his defamation case against the Rupert Murdoch-owned Sunday tabloid in August 2006.

The paper had branded him an adulterer and claimed he visited Cupids swingers' club in Manchester and had taken part in group sex sessions. Mr Sheridan denied the claims.

The trial judge, Lord Turnbull, voiced his concerns about the contradictory nature of the evidence given during the trial and, a month later, the Crown Office ordered Lothian and Borders Police to launch a perjury investigation.

As well as Mr and Mrs Sheridan, five others have been charged with perjury, including Mrs Sheridan's father, Gus Healey, 71, and former Solidarity MSP Rosemary Byrne.

Mrs Sheridan remains suspended from her BA cabin crew job pending an internal inquiry by the airline which is at an early stage



Establishment victimises cult hero?

Chancer gets come uppance?


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mortonjag 2008-03-28 06:36:34
QUOTE(Kaney @ Mar 28 2008, 12:45 AM) [snapback]426795[/snapback]
Whats the capacity of their new studium going to be? Do ye know?

200 megalitres of raw sewage, with a 50 megalitre overspill capacity.


Which, BTW is a load of sh*t.
mortonjag 2008-03-28 06:37:32
QUOTE(carlito @ Mar 28 2008, 12:56 AM) [snapback]426799[/snapback]
It may be modern, but it looks sh*te. I hate all these Lego stadia, they all look the same. It's going to suck having to go to there instead of Love Street. It won't be the same. sad.gif

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Te amo!
mortonjag 2008-03-28 06:38:57
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Mar 28 2008, 01:04 AM) [snapback]426801[/snapback]
Me and you dancing wee bools?

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mortonjag 2008-03-28 06:46:57
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 28 2008, 12:36 AM) [snapback]426793[/snapback]
Usually when I post my prediction on page numbers its my way of syaing "I'm not getting involved in this one".
...this will be no different laugh.gif

Mugsy Puggsy met a pieman, going to the Fair.
Said Mugsy Puggsy to the pieman-what have you got there?
Said the pieman to Mugsy Puggsy, show me first your penny
Said Puggsy, Sir, like thoughts and wit, I fear I have not any.
mortonjag 2008-03-28 06:49:29
QUOTE(Magic Mathie @ Mar 28 2008, 03:53 AM) [snapback]426817[/snapback]
I'd say yeah but you'd be better ask yor GP to be on the safe side.

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mortonjag 2008-03-28 06:58:33
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 27 2008, 11:58 PM) [snapback]426784[/snapback]
If you are not an authority, you should not quote little bits of legislation without knowing how it fits in the big picture. I'm not defending my own profession per se, only the man currently charged with sorting out Gretna. He's got a difficult job and has to balance the interests of any number of stakeholders including:

Secured creditors
Employees and their Wages
Other creditors such as Alibi
The public interest including the SPL and others
The DTI
The tax authorities
the shareholders
etc., etc.

Its a no win job. The SPL are paying money when no one else is. Its probably money which would not be there if they fold and it offers the chance of salvaging the club. That's what administration is supposed to do. Its what it did for us and the administrator will not be considering much the interest's of whoever finishes in the bottom two of the first division which appears to be your primary motivation for the stance you are taking! I have every sympathy for Alibi and the other creditors but the administrator only comes to clear up mess after it has been made!

...and that's exactly the trap you have fallen into.

In assuming he is acting ethically (as I'm sure the vast majority of your profession does), you take discussion out of the equation.


I have perfectly legitimately suggested that he may not be so doing.


Oh and the 'no win job'.


Aye right, my heart bleeds for the wee soul!

The 'Insolvency Stakes' is invariably won by a walkover. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-28 07:06:41
QUOTE(capitanus @ Mar 28 2008, 12:54 AM) [snapback]426798[/snapback]
Okay then, I submit. I give in, my post should have read:
Och Aye, gimme Morton any time.

I dont care how dire and tediously boring it seems as long as theres 10 blue and white hooped shirts hoofing a ba' about a half empty stadium in the arse end of nowhere.

I'm a real 'Ton supporter, so i um, by ra way. Shove yer entertaining and skillful fitba' up yer arse.

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You'd have to remove your head first



CAPUT UP ANUS. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-28 07:08:59
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Mar 28 2008, 02:58 AM) [snapback]426816[/snapback]
Possibly, but you can't blame Rae entirely.

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mortonjag 2008-03-28 07:11:18
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Mar 28 2008, 06:54 AM) [snapback]426825[/snapback]
Agree completely. Giving Beijing the olympics was meant to be carrot and stick and has failed totally. As Tom McB says they tried it before with Berlin in 1936. "Here, have the olympics and maybe you'll start behaving yourself". Didn't work that time and I'm not sure why these organisations can't learn from their mistakes.

To answer El Gofer's point - If you've ever been to China you'll see that all of these companies don't need the Olympics to sell their products. They are doing very well as it is.

Only good bit of news this week is that the Chinese have stopped blocking the BBC news website.

The fresh face of propaganda! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-28 08:49:00
QUOTE(Mr Toon @ Mar 28 2008, 08:44 AM) [snapback]426832[/snapback]
Quite possibly both.

Quite definitely possibly both! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-28 09:02:13
QUOTE(irvineTON @ Mar 28 2008, 08:45 AM) [snapback]426833[/snapback]
I actually thought long & hard about adding Walker to my list.
The sole reason I put him in there, was due to the fact that when we were playing so badly he still wasn't gettin his game. I realise he has had some injury problems but he simply hasn't done enough (imho) to warrant a stay of execution. Bear in mind, I'm saying who I would dump if we were to improve and ultimately be challenging. smile.gif

The reason Stevenson was added is purely down to his attitude and lack of fight. We need players who will dig in when the going gets tough and he just doesn't do it. His head drops far too easily & he will ultimately drift out of the game. He's angered me when given a run out lately, as he should be grasping the opportunity with both hands, yet doesn't seem to show enough desire. Just my opinion, cue LargsTon gettin a hard on at me for slagging "Wonder Boy" tongue.gif

p.s Deego, this Finlayson bashing is becoming Tedious. wink.gif Just admit u fancy the guy & the only way u can deal with these intense feelings is to ridicule him on the Internet. Love/hate - Thin line!! wub.gif tongue.gif

It's nice when folk give their reasons for opinions. wink.gif

Calling players 'crap', sh*te', 'never a footballer' etc., says more about the poster than the player.


I've had huge patience with Jamie, and don't doubt his skill. Recently he's shown a wee bit more sparkle. Too early to bin him I'd say.

Alex Walker got a really rough deal from JM.

Repeatedly when more favoured midfielders went off form-(Millar, McLaughlin, Stevenson, and of course Gowsa, the so called 'striker'), they were still trotted out week after week by the man with no vision.

When Alex did get a chance he'd be tried here, there, and everywhere, and despite good performances in the main, would be dropped again when others became available.

He's also been very unlucky with injury this season.

Alex is a more accomplished footballer than Deano, Kev, and Scott. I still think he can make something of his career- if not here, elsewhere.


Oh-and edit to add-if young Deegan's been cheatin' on me with that Deano, he's for the high jump.
mortonjag 2008-03-28 09:10:17
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 28 2008, 08:51 AM) [snapback]426837[/snapback]
What am I making up? I would love to see the monarchy abolished, but to me that's not nearly as important as getting independence. Independence is a separate issue from abolition of the monarchy. When Scotland becomes independent, it could retain the queen as head of state, or become a republic, or maybe there is some other democratic option available. It is pretty obvious though that abolishing the monarchy will not be achieved without a referendum at some stage - the pro-monarchy people wouldn't stand for that. As far as political independence goes, there are people who favour retaining a monarchy but who also support independence, and to link the two issues would mean that such people would probably vote against independence if removal of the monarchy was a certain consequence of independence.

As far as the EU is concerned, I am ambivalent. I am not entirely sure that we couldn't do better not being in the EU but being in EFTA, which it seems to me gives all the benefits of the EU without the downside of over-regulation and interference in every aspect of our lives. I do like the ides of mobility within Europe though. Scotland is actually in a very strong negotiating position as far as the EU is concerned because we are resource rich (oil, marine resources, renewables potential, hydro, water supply etc etc) and they wouldn't want to lose us.

I hardly think the Scottish people (apart from a very few such as cardinals) would have any truck with Rome rule.

The monarchy is anachronistic.

That per se, would not be so bad if our 'Royals' were seen to set standards of morality and decency.


Even without 'independence' they should be scrapped IMO.
mortonjag 2008-03-28 09:13:19
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 28 2008, 08:52 AM) [snapback]426838[/snapback]
Heaven forbid...that is the administrators job.

If administrators didn't do that we might not currently have a football club of our own dry.gif

This does not mean I'm arguing his case, I think Gretna should be wound up as they will be eventually, but you cannot say he is breaking rules by not closing the club down now!

I have SUGGESTED that his behaviour is questionable.
mortonjag 2008-03-28 09:15:34
QUOTE(irvineTON @ Mar 28 2008, 09:10 AM) [snapback]426847[/snapback]
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Deano? Does he fancy him too? ohmy.gif

I can see where your comin from in the defence of these 2 players, maybe I'm being a little harsh. I'm just playing devils advocate here and highlighting reasons why they will possibly be shown the door. smile.gif

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Welcome-we need more 'Devil's advocates', and less blinkered fools! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-28 09:29:41
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 28 2008, 09:19 AM) [snapback]426851[/snapback]
Tommy is a real decent bloke. I like him..

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Is that an opinion Spurtle?

Is he a personal friend of yours?
mortonjag 2008-03-28 09:35:12
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 28 2008, 09:28 AM) [snapback]426853[/snapback]
Well your suggestion is most likely wrong wink.gif

That is an utterly ludicrous comment which highlights your poor understanding of the English language.


THINK before replying this time. You MAY find that helpful!
mortonjag 2008-03-28 09:42:55
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 28 2008, 09:40 AM) [snapback]426858[/snapback]
I have met Tommy a few times.

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So have I and I think he's a f*ckin' chancer of the scummiest order, who easily cons the intellectually challenged! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-28 09:46:04
QUOTE(nach0king @ Mar 28 2008, 09:43 AM) [snapback]426861[/snapback]
Depending on who else is available I'd get rid of all of them, but it'll ultimately come down to who else is able to sign, and in our price range.

Surely the overriding consideration will be which division we end up playing in.
mortonjag 2008-03-28 09:48:01 I'm fed up being optimistic-I've been wrong so often that I'll predict 2-0 to Queens in the hope that my form continues!
mortonjag 2008-03-28 09:51:45
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 28 2008, 09:44 AM) [snapback]426862[/snapback]
I don't... laugh.gif

I'm unsurprised. You think Bawheid is a Saint too.

Our Blessed Bawheid of the Perpetual Confabulation.
mortonjag 2008-03-28 10:26:30
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 28 2008, 10:12 AM) [snapback]426872[/snapback]
And I'm sure the whole board have the same sentiments regarding your good self.

Gracious in defeat as always young man! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

That assertion is about as scientific as your previous one.

Now run off and study. You're clearly not ready to joust with the Jag! sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-28 10:31:55
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 28 2008, 10:11 AM) [snapback]426871[/snapback]
1-0 Morton with a dodgy last minute goal into the home fans enclosure end smile.gif
...I'll be the wee one going off my hied if you're looking wink.gif

Nothing new then? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-28 13:58:22
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 28 2008, 11:53 AM) [snapback]426903[/snapback]
If we don't stay up I'm sure players will get contracts here

New employer

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Ah---the simplicity of the average footie fan. First it was JM-now it's because they're all bottlers.


If it WAS just down to lack of ability, the players could hardly be blamed.

I don't buy into this 'bottling out' sh*te-it's just ANOTHER excuse for so much that's wrong behind the scenes IMO.

DI/DC still have time to turn things around-starting with Palmerston.

Fingers crossed.
mortonjag 2008-03-28 14:01:24
QUOTE(princessTON @ Mar 28 2008, 11:17 AM) [snapback]426896[/snapback]
Look, i am not on here saying things like this all the time. I have reason to believe that this person is not lying. Thought i would share it with you guys. rolleyes.gif We will just have to wait and see on this one.

1k per week over three years Princess, or IOU's and free Fudgy Wudgys till the end of the season?
mortonjag 2008-03-28 14:06:24
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 28 2008, 01:01 PM) [snapback]426925[/snapback]
Couldn't be further from the truth. Far from being blinkered and certainly not blind. I want everyone in a Ton jersey to do well but that doesn't escape the reality that some of those that have had that honour have simply not been good enough. I remember Keenan's debut at Palmerston where he was sent off for a crunching tackle in the infamous Sean "I cried when I saw him lying there" O'Connor match and thought great he was a tough tackling no nonesense player, just the sort we need. A handful of games aside, he's looked to me to be very poor ever since.



'I can't think of one single time that Keenan has influenced a game to turn it in our favour'


That's what you said. I suggested it was because you were biased, and you deny that.
My conclusion is that you were not at the games where he impressed, and was MOTM.

Are you a part timer? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-28 14:08:03
QUOTE(BlueTube @ Mar 28 2008, 10:50 AM) [snapback]426886[/snapback]
2-1 for the Ton. Russell breaks the offside trap, at last, and slots home. Wake penalty for the second smile.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-28 14:10:56
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 28 2008, 02:00 PM) [snapback]426947[/snapback]
I hope we don't resort to long high balls - Jim Thomson will lap these up all afternoon. If there is any question mark over the Queens' central defence then it might be a slight lack of pace - I hope Davie Irons knows that.

Stevie Tosh is suspended - that could make a big difference. Only Neil Macfarlane to contend with then, although I understand he hasn't trained this week and so might well be rested, especially with the looming cup semi. O'Connor also said to be doubtful.

C'mon boys, let's win this one - saves me a lot of ribbing next week.

Jags definitely came of the pedal in the second half against us with midweek cup tie pending.

You may just have something there. The Doonhamers know they won't be promoted-for them the cup is now THE biggie. Fngers and toes crossed.
mortonjag 2008-03-28 14:13:21
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 28 2008, 01:55 PM) [snapback]426945[/snapback]
Can I say I'm dyslexic and get in for free cos I thought it said under 61?

I'd suggest 'decksillic'.
mortonjag 2008-03-28 14:15:33
QUOTE(princessTON @ Mar 28 2008, 02:07 PM) [snapback]426950[/snapback]
I go for free Fudgy Wudgys, i used to love them, not seen them in any shop for ages. smile.gif

You're kiddin'!!

I can get them in the wee shop round the corner up here. Is Greenock being victimised by the Shooglemeister?

He is INDEED a bad man.
mortonjag 2008-03-28 14:22:41
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Mar 28 2008, 12:16 PM) [snapback]426915[/snapback]
I'm asking.

So it's no jist the wey yer staunin'?
mortonjag 2008-03-28 14:26:55
QUOTE(Rossco @ Mar 28 2008, 01:12 PM) [snapback]426928[/snapback]
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/7317115.stm
This is the woman who is only still in job by skin of her teeth yet rates herself as a perfect 10.

Next reshuffle of Labour & she is out of there serves the stuttering cow right perfect 10 my arse.

Why do people constantly feel the need to praise that verminous cretin?
mortonjag 2008-03-28 14:32:35
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Mar 28 2008, 02:08 PM) [snapback]426951[/snapback]
The bassas don't like her Maj!

Aff wie their heids. mad.gif

'Her Royal Majesty, Queen Elizabeth the Second of Great Britain and Northern Ireland' to you Mr Bam taig.


Wee sweaty Betty, if you'd prefer! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-28 14:37:43 Clearly I've missed some fun. Spurtle is failing in his duties.


Don't tell me Bawheid was poncing about Hampden on a free ticket the other night. I'm surprised they didn't decapitate the pompous pr*ck and save the match ball for a serious competition.
mortonjag 2008-03-28 14:40:19
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Mar 28 2008, 01:48 PM) [snapback]426943[/snapback]
Agree laugh.gif , then again there has been a couple of Actors come go at cappielow over the years unsure.gif

Is Mr Rae a member of Equity?
mortonjag 2008-03-28 14:44:10
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Mar 28 2008, 02:24 PM) [snapback]426959[/snapback]
Maybe... what I should have really said is that to our knowledge he has not acted in a criminal way. And until we have evidence of this we must assume that he has not. Innocent until proven guilty and all that!

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You are commendably discreet!

I do take issue just with the one word, which should of course, be 'may'.


mortonjag 2008-03-28 14:49:00 The Monkey and Fing have been on the blower all morning-apparently Innes wants to sign for the Ton, but there's been a legal hitch over the blood test for Llama flu.
mortonjag 2008-03-28 14:56:07
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Mar 28 2008, 02:42 PM) [snapback]426969[/snapback]
What's so funny?

I didn't check the blog, but if indeed that is true, I find it highly amusing that Keenan can be dismissed so readily.

I make no apology for using the term ' football afficionados and snobs' , JonaTon'

I'm referring to people who take a dislike to a player for reasons other than genuine ability or effectiveness. The cap need only be worn by those it fits.
mortonjag 2008-03-28 14:58:06
QUOTE(aimlesswanderer @ Mar 28 2008, 02:56 PM) [snapback]426979[/snapback]
I hope Keenan can add something but I think people are clutching at straws when they talk about the difference he could make. He was never a regular starter for us in Division Two and having had little first team action at the start of the season he has been playing back in Division Two this season. I'm not sure what gives people the belief that he is going to give us a lift by coming back in. Desperation?

Reading some of the posts on here you'd think that Keenan was our answer to Vinnie Jones or Julian Dicks but while he is prone to committing reckless challenges occassionally, he's not the sort of player that is going to scare the opposition. Most of the games in which I've seen Keenan he's made mistakes or been pretty anonymous.

However much we've been struggling I would still put Keenan pretty low in the pecking order - I'd rather Walker or McAnespie were given a chance.

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mortonjag 2008-03-28 15:00:13
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 28 2008, 02:45 PM) [snapback]426973[/snapback]
i really wish i got one of your jokes....just once. sad.gif

go on MJ, lower yourself to my level of humour so we can regail in jovial witty banter.

...and I really wish folk would stop assuming I'm making jokes when I ask questions! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-28 15:02:54
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 28 2008, 02:48 PM) [snapback]426975[/snapback]
Another day, another attack on the SNP. Very predictable Doc Doom

Glasgow has a big unionist following, so no surprise there.

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Anabel's is distinctly misshapen Spurtle-and it would frighten the children.
mortonjag 2008-03-28 15:06:25
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 28 2008, 03:05 PM) [snapback]426985[/snapback]
laugh.gif good one! its the way you tell 'em.

....and it's Goodnight from me.....
mortonjag 2008-03-28 15:17:30
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 28 2008, 03:16 PM) [snapback]426989[/snapback]
and it's a goodnight from him.
gosh we're geat. have i ever told you that i think we're great? dont ever lose that.

Goodnight! sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-28 16:04:18
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 28 2008, 03:26 PM) [snapback]426993[/snapback]
I know standards are dropping but is giving her 10 out of 10 not a misprint? Surely she meant 10 out of 100?

"Move on" is the phrase that is used repeatedly by Labour politicians when they want to avoid the question. Tony Blair did it constantly. Cash for Peerages? Move on. Iraq War? Move on....

As for Gordon Brown claiming that the SNP is threatening Scotland's prosperity: what prosperity would that be then? Brown is all spin and no substance - built up over a decade as some great intellect and said to be a superb chancellor, within weeks the whole charade falls apart and he is seen for what he is, a stuttering stammering idiot who can't cope with the simplest decision, his so-called prudence being revealed as based on excessive borrowing. The man is a fraud and a failure. Now widely hated throughout Scotland due to his anti-Scottish rhetoric, he may well be the first Prime Minister in living memory to lose his seat at the next election.

To get back to Wendy - ten pints and a paper bag over the head wouldn't be enough but I digress - she is a talentless wee nobody and if she is the best that Labour can come up with (and I'll concede that she is) then thank goodness she is never likely to be in power.



QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 28 2008, 03:57 PM) [snapback]426996[/snapback]
Gordon Brown has just predicted at their Labour conference, that she will one day be First Minister blink.gif

Mr Brown detailed, before the Aviemore gathering on Friday, Ms Alexander's "passion and brilliance". EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED
mortonjag 2008-03-28 16:06:50
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 28 2008, 04:00 PM) [snapback]426999[/snapback]
So not my fault RBS make safes that a JCB can crack open if I chose to rob a bank? blink.gif

Sometimes I worry about your logic young man. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-28 16:09:17
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Mar 28 2008, 04:03 PM) [snapback]427000[/snapback]
Don't even need to give away names, just the position they play would do me wink.gif

Hopefully a goalkeeper.
mortonjag 2008-03-28 16:15:07
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 28 2008, 04:11 PM) [snapback]427010[/snapback]
if its a pre-contract then its not as if a club can come inand steal them so might aswell spill who it is tongue.gif

.....because....
mortonjag 2008-03-28 16:25:34
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 28 2008, 04:20 PM) [snapback]427016[/snapback]
don't start this pish again laugh.gif

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Thats a PEE contract.
mortonjag 2008-03-28 16:27:57
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Mar 28 2008, 04:20 PM) [snapback]427015[/snapback]
God bless her!

BTW, capital T for Taig wink.gif

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Sorry Mr Bam-Taig! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-28 16:31:28
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 28 2008, 04:27 PM) [snapback]427023[/snapback]
laugh.gif

finally lowering the tone of your jokes to my level. I actually got that one and laughed. biggrin.gif laugh.gif

Urine for more laughs.
mortonjag 2008-03-28 16:37:25
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Mar 28 2008, 04:31 PM) [snapback]427028[/snapback]
Gretna to go under after the SPL split I would imagine

No-no you don't understand-the Administrator is going to save them-HONEST.

He sees them as an utterly viable proposition, fully expecting them to make handsome profits from the first division championship winning run next season, which will see them bounce straight back into the SPL, by which time the new super stadium will be fully constructed, thanks to Alibi having been paid in full, and having agreed to continue with the work. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-28 17:25:25
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Mar 28 2008, 04:43 PM) [snapback]427032[/snapback]
You must have been on a half day today and striaght on to the tonic wine sir!

Not really- Gretna are well and truly F*CKED-the SPL are keeping them afloat for totally selfish reasons, thanks to the co-operation of a 'tame' administrator, and certain resident 'specialists' are willing to fly in the face of reality, to his defence. For whatever reason I'm not entirely sure! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-28 17:29:25 Everybody knows Shire need a goalscorer!
mortonjag 2008-03-28 17:36:18
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 28 2008, 05:31 PM) [snapback]427053[/snapback]
Your "diagnosis" is somewhat wide of the mark. Perhaps it's a simple case of him never doing much to impress in the games I have seen him play. I think he is extremely limited in his ability and what he offers the team. Simply because some pissed up guest or his mum has been at hospitality does not necessarily mean I always agree with the MotMs dished out at Cappielow. Infact it is often the case that most of the shed are left flummoxed by the choice.

peterhead away last season scored the winner !!
started the move that led to goal against dunfermline away this season


...as somebody else pointed out. Was also MOTM against Beath playing left back in what was then a table top clash.


Oh and BTW I made an observation, NOT a diagnosis! wink.gif


Ratarse sees what he wants to see and disregards the rest.
mortonjag 2008-03-28 17:41:01 Does Mr Rae have a 'master plan'?
mortonjag 2008-03-28 17:55:19
QUOTE(Toby @ Mar 28 2008, 05:52 PM) [snapback]427063[/snapback]
You certainly were too scared to ask him anything.

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....and he openly, honestly, and directly answered those who questioned him!

You were not s***ebags Toby-just punch bags for the Shooglemeister! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-29 06:30:15
QUOTE(Savo @ Mar 28 2008, 11:51 PM) [snapback]427204[/snapback]
Was near the front of the West Stand, where it meets the North, talking to JonaTon at the time and we both heard it loud and clear from all around.

Any politician walking on to a football pitch should be realistic enough to expect it.

I know that McConnell certainly did at Cappielow. He told Rae repeatedly that it was an extremely bad idea but DDF was adamant and hauled him out regardless rolleyes.gif

And they call Mortonjag a s***ebag!!!!!


Aye right.


Rae's skin is as thick as his skull.
mortonjag 2008-03-29 06:33:00
QUOTE(Toby @ Mar 28 2008, 06:12 PM) [snapback]427070[/snapback]
No, he didn't openly and honestly answer them.

It was however a hit worth taking from him laugh.gif in order that he knew exactly what many think of him.

And it certainly didn't make me look like a s***ebag. Can you say the same for everyone's perception of yourself in light of the Q & A?

NO-and do you think I care-but well done to you anyway! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-29 06:44:33
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 28 2008, 10:27 PM) [snapback]427182[/snapback]
Cos for a certain amount of time in the womb your sex is not determined, however nipples begin their growth at this time. So when it was decided you were to have a wee dingaling the nips were already there. smile.gif

You've been reading the wrong books again boy-stick with the numbers.

If God hadn't wanted men to have nipples, they wouldn't have them.

HIV and Hepatitis would also be less prevalent.
mortonjag 2008-03-29 06:47:41
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Mar 28 2008, 10:08 PM) [snapback]427172[/snapback]
Talk in Dunfermline that the parent group of the Tele, the Dunfy Press and a few other local newspapers is heading for administration. An word in Greenock? Maybe Lancashire Hotpot knows.

Don't worry, the SPL will bail them out-it has a soft spot for lost causes. ph34r.gif wacko.gif wacko.gif wacko.gif wacko.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-29 06:55:27
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 28 2008, 08:19 PM) [snapback]427129[/snapback]
Your right Bob DDFR is the guilty party for this years shambles .

McInally was given his full backing and even criticised supporters for airing their fears . He was still persevering with the myth that everything was going well for the first 18 games despite our atrocious home record .

......and JM is off the hook! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-29 06:58:58
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Mar 28 2008, 08:32 PM) [snapback]427137[/snapback]
Of course the SPL are keeping them alive to save their own skin.....and to the detriment of creditors. The SPL are a faceless, spineless bunch of w*nkers only interested in self preservation. The SPL change the rules to suit theirself at all times...... therefore of course they don't want the embarrasement of having to rejig the league table. They do it because they can...simple as that!

You may remember that Falkirk were denied entry to the SPL because they were not allowed to groundshare.....Gretna were!
You may remember St Mirren applied to play at 2 grounds in one season (Love St then the new stadium). This was denied meaning St Mirren had to incur the costly expense of installing undersoil heating. Gretna have been allowed to play home games at different grounds this term.

The right arm doesn;t know what the left arm is doing at the SPL. Run my incompetent morons out for there own greed AND NOT the good of the Scottish game!!!



The Administrator COULD have politely declined! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-29 07:04:45
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Mar 28 2008, 10:37 PM) [snapback]427188[/snapback]
Tell fing to grab the nail gun and pony tail and to apply significant pressure until the target submits. Failure to agree will result in termination.

Fing will give you a bell when he's shrieking for mercy and a last fag Vader.


Then it's up to you!



HSSSSSS-AAAAAAAAAAAH krrrrrrrrowk--hee, hee. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-29 07:09:49
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Mar 28 2008, 09:20 PM) [snapback]427157[/snapback]
Looks as if O'Connor and McFarlane are unlikely to make it either. Hope so!!

http://www.qosfc.com/07news.htm

Maybe the astute Mr Rae is looking to some money from the cup. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-29 07:12:26
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Mar 29 2008, 12:03 AM) [snapback]427208[/snapback]
Having been to several Spurs games with one of my mates (who is a massive Spurs fan for some reason), I can safely say that I would rather be at Palmerston. The quality of football may be better - but the atmosphere is s***e, the prices are outrageous and it is crap watching a game as a neutral.

Compulsive eater?
mortonjag 2008-03-29 07:22:09 >According to the Sun Allan Moore states he could have done without losing Eric Paartalu to Morton looks as if we signed him from Gretna.[/quote]




Extremely interesting BB.

We COULD, of course, have tapped into Aussie talent before now-POST Maisano era. Craig Elvin played trials for us, scored two against Dundee in a friendly, and was sent back home.

Stan Webster rates him more highly than Simon Storey (whom he also coached) and who was a stand out last week against Rangers (for the Jags). mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-29 08:11:18
QUOTE(dazed @ Mar 29 2008, 08:02 AM) [snapback]427262[/snapback]
Ive seen that woman in the shops in Bishopton and she's a haunted hoose alright.! bloody scary! laugh.gif

But she's a lovely person (for a politician) and genuinely cultured, having gone to the same school as Mortonjag!
mortonjag 2008-03-29 08:14:14
QUOTE(dazed @ Mar 29 2008, 08:09 AM) [snapback]427265[/snapback]
JEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHH! how lucky she is to be so perfect! not! more like pathetic! mad.gif

She clearly lives on planet Wendy, unfortunately for her no one else does! laugh.gif

Peter Pan-the Professor house husband looks after the family in Glasgow's leafy Hyndland while Wendy scares kids on the streets of the Capital.
mortonjag 2008-03-29 08:19:40
QUOTE(dazed @ Mar 29 2008, 08:14 AM) [snapback]427268[/snapback]
There seems a good reason for a school demoloition, so no more emerge! lol! laugh.gif and she is most certainly not lovely either!!! laugh.gif

Poor Anabel-she always wanted to marry, or so she claims, 'but the right man just never came along'!
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Quoted straight from the horse's mouth BTW. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-29 08:22:38
QUOTE(dazed @ Mar 29 2008, 07:59 AM) [snapback]427261[/snapback]
The same story is in the Scotsman this morning, seems like he has signed for Morton.

Didn't realise you got broadsheets in the port! blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-29 08:37:29
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Mar 29 2008, 08:21 AM) [snapback]427271[/snapback]
will be glad to see the ened of the innes saga which lasted longer than a bad episode of dallas, paartalu will be a good signing

Aye, thrustful attacking 21 year old midfielder who will be called a 'striker' after his first goal!

Nothing on GMFC.net mind! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-29 08:45:54
QUOTE(dazed @ Mar 29 2008, 08:15 AM) [snapback]427269[/snapback]
LMAO laugh.gif Couldn't have put it better! laugh.gif

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Hopefully Spurtle will notice that I've done Wendy, Anabel, and Bawheid in 24 hours.

He claims I'm anti SNP and Unionist!!!

Mind you Salmond does look strangely inbred-that bonce is reminiscent of one of those Halloween lanterns waved by the children to assist Anabel and Wendy's safe landing.


mortonjag 2008-03-29 08:58:52
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 29 2008, 08:50 AM) [snapback]427277[/snapback]
Britain is the minor league of mass murder compared to Maoist China, Stalinist Russia or Nazi Germany. Even counting the ravages of colonialism, its part in the slave trade and the history of oppression in Scotland and Ireland, Britain is surpassed by those three. Having said all that, aye, cancel London as well, if only for the illegal war in Iraq. Scottish athletes shouldn't be going to China anyway, because they can't represent their own country. Feck it, cancel all the Olympics, just because they are more about political propoganda and less about sport.
Edit to add: Feck the Commonwealth Games as well, there are better uses for Scotland's money. cool.gif

Cancel the Oympic games-simple.

Shamateur and anachronistic flag waving phantasmagoria.
mortonjag 2008-03-29 09:01:38
QUOTE(jpmil @ Mar 29 2008, 08:57 AM) [snapback]427279[/snapback]
I just can't believe this move by JM. The lad played against St. M and did really well and was then promptly overlooked by JM and never had chance (I don't even remember him being on the bench) at the time we were crying out for a full-back. Then JM has the cheek (and I've put it very mildly) to come back and take him on loan (what a tosser).

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JM was not the only person with influence at Cappielow. I agree it seems odd.It would be nice to know the inside story!
mortonjag 2008-03-29 09:04:11
QUOTE(Jack Bauer @ Mar 29 2008, 08:56 AM) [snapback]427278[/snapback]
I think this is the toughest match of the season so far. Especially when you add the fact that we now have real pressure on us to win.

A draw would normally be acceptable but lets not kid ourselves we need to win.

I cant see us winning and reckon it may finish 2-2.

We have to keep their centre backs moving and try and stretch the game, long balls will be food and drink for them.

JB

Will you be having a few today?


Many happy returns! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-29 09:10:32
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 29 2008, 09:03 AM) [snapback]427282[/snapback]
I would suggest that almost everyone on this forum has goods in their home made in China. In fact I would go so far as to say that the majority of goods in homes will be Chinese made. Certainly the musicians on here will all have Chinese made goods, unless you're buying expensive US made gear. The Chinese have made themselves almost beyond reproach as the world economy is entirely reliant on them.
That's not to say that nothing can be done but until we learn to consume less and demand cheap goods the Chinese will see that as a green light to continue murdering their own people.
I assume the comment about England having a history of murder was tongue in cheek.

Indeed Mr McArthur-they've even produced their first car for sale over here-innovatively named the 'Cherry'.

Any self respecting motorist would need to be stoned to be seen driving one.

Just give it ten years though-it's easy to see what's coming. I'm old enough to remember the days when the motorcycling world was dominated by British machines.
mortonjag 2008-03-29 09:13:04
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 29 2008, 09:06 AM) [snapback]427284[/snapback]
The Scotsman is not a broadsheet.

Who said it is?
mortonjag 2008-03-29 09:18:13
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 29 2008, 09:15 AM) [snapback]427289[/snapback]
Aye, it's a tabloid, same as the Sun and the Record (but these two are now more commonly referred to as 'redtops').

McArthur can be pedantic when it suits him DE-did you notice?
mortonjag 2008-03-29 09:21:16
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 29 2008, 09:17 AM) [snapback]427290[/snapback]
It's actually much harder than you think. Even if you buy 'British made' goods the chances are you'll be buying components made in China as almost everything has passed through there at some point. I've noticed that in my game more and more guitars are being marketed as 'US/UK designed' but when you look closer are made in China. Sadly I may have to go out there soon for a factory visit.
I'm not an economist and I don't know what the answer is.

When rape is inevitable Mr McArthur-what to do? sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-29 09:25:54
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 29 2008, 09:19 AM) [snapback]427292[/snapback]
You did Mr MJ. Dazed said he'd read something in The Scotsman and you said you didn't realise they got broadsheets in the Port.



QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 29 2008, 09:20 AM) [snapback]427293[/snapback]
You made the link between 'The Scotsman' and 'broadsheet', and then denied it. biggrin.gif

Mortonjag did NOT state that the Scotsman is a broadsheet gentlemen! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-29 09:28:13
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 29 2008, 09:22 AM) [snapback]427295[/snapback]
Yawn. :rolleyes:
The same Sun article confirms that Innes has knocked back a deal. So that puts an end to that.

Paartalu will be a good addition to the squad, mind. smile.gif

Don't encourage me-you KNOW you shouldn't. Some day the full story may emerge! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-29 10:05:01
QUOTE(dazed @ Mar 29 2008, 09:51 AM) [snapback]427307[/snapback]
There is nothing "deliverence like" about Mr Salmonds noggin! laugh.gif

The good old Scottish expression-'Ye've got a face only a maw could love' springs to mind.


Sorry Moira! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-29 10:09:55
QUOTE(dazed @ Mar 29 2008, 09:56 AM) [snapback]427309[/snapback]
or should that be right bull........ well she is a bit of a heifer! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
is that from Mr Eds mouth????????

I've seen her more than once at the annual Kilmacolm Cattle Show, though I don't recall any blue rosettes.
mortonjag 2008-03-29 10:13:57
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 29 2008, 09:42 AM) [snapback]427303[/snapback]
criminal behaviour laugh.gif

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pink camshafts
mortonjag 2008-03-29 10:17:17
QUOTE(dazed @ Mar 29 2008, 09:48 AM) [snapback]427305[/snapback]
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My dear sir I have been an avid reader of the Scotsman for more years than I care to remember and it has been a compact paper for nearly 2 years now!

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A compact broadsheet! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-29 10:17:52
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 29 2008, 09:49 AM) [snapback]427306[/snapback]
he just capitalised the wrong word tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-29 10:18:42
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Mar 29 2008, 09:57 AM) [snapback]427310[/snapback]
You need very little encouragement MJ wink.gif

She tells me that too.
mortonjag 2008-03-29 10:19:46
QUOTE(The Viking @ Mar 29 2008, 10:03 AM) [snapback]427312[/snapback]
The Daily Record (St.Mirren v Gretna preview) also claims that Irons is looking to sign Gavin Skelton and Greg Fleming.

FFS-we might as well take the bloody llamas on trial too!
mortonjag 2008-03-29 10:21:55
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 29 2008, 10:11 AM) [snapback]427316[/snapback]
Now I know, you're a Spin Doctor. tongue.gif

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Not really DE-just a stubborn and obtuse old c*nt who gets his kicks out of prevarication when he's not in a bad mood.
mortonjag 2008-03-29 10:27:11
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 29 2008, 10:15 AM) [snapback]427319[/snapback]
good post davie but my comment about murder was aimed at the british empire. it certainly wasn't tongue in cheek.

Aye forza but this is the 21st century-even your old w*nker friend Winston would be 134 if God had spared him. ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-29 10:29:40
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Mar 29 2008, 10:25 AM) [snapback]427325[/snapback]
Of course they could have, but why would they when it is in the SPL's interests and the administrators interests to keep this soap going for aslong as they can.

....which is why I've asked questions about professional conduct of the Administrator, who claims he's acting ony in the creditors' interest! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-29 11:11:21
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Mar 29 2008, 11:02 AM) [snapback]427339[/snapback]
Confession ! I knew it. MJ's a golfer.

TonInDublin

Why did it take you so log darling? wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-29 11:19:40
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Mar 29 2008, 10:48 AM) [snapback]427332[/snapback]
Is he a poet??

Nah-just a taig with a inflated opinion of taigery, but if it keeps him happy, Mr Bam-Taig it shall be!


Anyhow Micky Boy-will you beat those evil Huns today-will the ginger cretin gnome get a reprieve or will he be banished to a life of ludgery? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-29 11:23:16
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Mar 29 2008, 11:20 AM) [snapback]427345[/snapback]
So "log" ? You ARE a golfer. Surely a Freudian slip. I think we should be told.

TonInDublin

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Twas indeed a slip-I cannt deny it-twig.
mortonjag 2008-03-29 11:31:02
QUOTE(lemmington @ Mar 29 2008, 10:55 AM) [snapback]427334[/snapback]
Just found out how to ignore certain members and surprise surprise I have put mortonjag on ignore.
I am totally fed up with the crappy one liners(to enhance his posts) and the s***e that he types on a daily(minute)basis.
Get a life.

Dedicated follower of fashion!

or


Lemming.

Did that sad plank really start a thread just to boast that he's discovered the huff button after almost three years?

Jesus Christ-he'll be on next- telling us how he got his first 'hard on' when Shoogly was tying his shoelaces in hospitality.
mortonjag 2008-03-30 08:18:28
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Mar 29 2008, 02:25 PM) [snapback]427369[/snapback]
His answers were unconvincing with regard to substance but cemented what I already thought . We need someone with a knowledge of football (who has played or managed in a professional capacity )on the board .

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mortonjag 2008-03-30 08:27:13
QUOTE(centralTON @ Mar 30 2008, 01:37 AM) [snapback]427744[/snapback]
Is your new bathroom leak free ? wink.gif

I hope he's a good swimmer Central!!!!! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-30 08:31:56
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Mar 29 2008, 02:44 PM) [snapback]427384[/snapback]
My ignore list

Mr MOrton (probably a rouge skunk on the wind up when the site first came up)
mortonjag
William Orange
Lord Haw haw (the Unionist one, not the septic fan from P&B)

I have only ever taken one person off "Ignore", and that was Shakehands Tom on P&B, as I had it on good authority that he had stopped being a fanny and had actually grown up.

mortonjag's habit of contributing every second post on the board (none of it visible to me, but the reaction of others suggests that things have not changed) is the main reason that I rarely bother with this forum.

Mortonjag enjoys helping others.
mortonjag 2008-03-30 08:33:40
QUOTE(SramTon @ Mar 29 2008, 10:10 PM) [snapback]427694[/snapback]
For the first time ever I put someone on ignore this morning.

However the "ignore" message is just as prominent as the original posts.

I want to be able to actually ignore them, I don't want to know that they've posted, I don't want the option of reading anymore of their dross. What I want is, in effect, a hide button.

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Beltrami bites the dust-sad fud.
mortonjag 2008-03-30 08:41:58
QUOTE(forza ton @ Mar 30 2008, 03:30 AM) [snapback]427754[/snapback]
really old house mate. only one isolation point sad.gif

If it's a really old shower too, and you DO have to call a plumber, you'd be as well buying a new one and getting him to chuck it on. As Central says a couple of wee isolation valves cost 'buttons'.
mortonjag 2008-03-30 08:43:32
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 29 2008, 11:54 PM) [snapback]427714[/snapback]
Awwwww leaf the boy alone
Hawwwwwww haaaaaaaaa

Leaf him--my birch is at the ready.
mortonjag 2008-03-30 09:06:56
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Mar 29 2008, 12:50 PM) [snapback]427366[/snapback]
oh change the record ffs you borin cnt



QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 29 2008, 01:31 PM) [snapback]427371[/snapback]
For the record, Craig Elvin was not good enough in the Dundee game, the goals were not enough to make him a worthwhile signing.



QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Mar 29 2008, 01:32 PM) [snapback]427372[/snapback]
Correct. No better than what we had at the time. Yes, he was that bad! laugh.gif

Captain and player of the year with Melbourne Knights last season and rated well ahead of Simon Storey, now of Partick by a guy who also coached Scott McDonald, and currently has proteges at Portsmouth, and Newcastle.

Grow up children. You're still seeing the damage cause by what JM DID think was worthwhile.

Webstergate was indeed a farce! mad.gif



mortonjag 2008-03-30 09:09:52
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Mar 29 2008, 06:52 PM) [snapback]427604[/snapback]
ding! deviation biggrin.gif

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You'd know abut that-wouldn't WE darling!
mortonjag 2008-03-30 09:27:18
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 29 2008, 08:54 PM) [snapback]427669[/snapback]
Indeed he has but he nearly cost us a goal when he decided to run past the ball.

I gave my vote to the wee ginger nut.

He DIDN'T decide to run past the ball-McGregor should have left it as Lee was going to pick up safely-it was almost knocked PAST him.

The boy made no mistakes against one of the most threatening sides in the league, and kept us in the game with a SUPERB dive to his right late in the second half.


He also chose to punch clear on one occasion and got the ball safely out of the danger area.

In addition he had an inspired throw out against the wind-past the bloody half way line, -we would have had a clean break away except for a slightly iffy offside decision.

Finally his kicking was FAR better and effective against the wind than the other Goalie's.

Credit where due folks! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-30 09:35:56
QUOTE(tom @ Mar 30 2008, 08:22 AM) [snapback]427770[/snapback]
Rubbish.


NO-Tom-it's NOT rubbish.


I agree with your opinion about Jenkins. I disagree with Houston's.

Simple and civilised! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-30 09:49:19 That was undoubtedly the most enjoyable Ton performance since the last one at Palmerston-Dumfries has been good to us this season.

I thought our fans were superb throughout-much though I detest Shoogly's pontifications, it IS sad that we can't give nearly so much encouragement at home.

What was that bloody monologue all about-I could hardly hear a word but was still creasing myself!!!!! laugh.gif

Some funny chants too, and sustained support throughout, including 'Only one Davie Irons'.

I thought the boys did us proud-even if we only get to play offs I'm getting more confident-there was FAR more belief today, and Paartalu made an instant impression-he's got that wee bit of arrogance we've been lacking, and McGuffie blossomed beside him.

OK there were a couple of wee things went wrong-and I believe we SHOULD have won it, but I'm not going to start nitpicking-well not about the lads!


Having to walk all the way round the back in pishing rain and Bovril made with sea water-the Monkey was unimpressed.
mortonjag 2008-03-30 09:56:32 Scott McLaughlin-winner of this week's FALL GUY award! laugh.gif

If his 30 yarder had gone in, he'd have probably been MOTM.


Funny old game-eh! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-30 11:43:12
QUOTE(MSC @ Mar 30 2008, 10:06 AM) [snapback]427779[/snapback]
He is a lazy, alcoholic, gambling addict and should be the first out the door come the end of this f*** up of a season. We needed players lik him to shine and lead by example this term and he has done his usual as the season wears on he give up and becomes even more lazy.
Aw you so called fans who think he is the bees knees, need to open your eyes to the attitude he has. He has pulled the wool over Mr Raes eyes on many an occasion.
DC don't like him anyhow and with any luck this will be his last season taking the c*** out of the fans who pay his wages.

And you appear to be a cowardly troublemaking rumour monger with an axe to grind.

It's easy to hide behind anonymity.

Pulled the wool over MR RAE'S eyes has he?

Maybe that was because Shoogly was distracted by your scurrilous tongue half way up his sigmoid colon.
mortonjag 2008-03-30 11:53:21
QUOTE(18-deano-ehm-74 @ Mar 30 2008, 10:20 AM) [snapback]427782[/snapback]
Yesterday a few other players said they would take the free kick, and Scott refused.

He is shocking, he has a few bright sparks, like the goal against Buckie Thistle. But he isn't good enough for this league.

Drop him, and if you can't, make sure he never touches another dead ball.

Trouble is he HAD hit that cracker in the first half. I agree that Scotty is always at the 'Me' stuff. That's for the manager to sort IMO.
mortonjag 2008-03-30 11:55:12
QUOTE(tom @ Mar 30 2008, 11:45 AM) [snapback]427796[/snapback]
Ok, you're probably correct. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, even when it's rubbish. Jenkins will be one of our best players, this season and future seasons. IMHO of course.

Budding politician-Spurtle will be proud of you! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-30 12:02:13
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 30 2008, 11:50 AM) [snapback]427797[/snapback]
that's what i want as well.

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mortonjag 2008-03-30 12:04:14
QUOTE(18-deano-ehm-74 @ Mar 30 2008, 11:58 AM) [snapback]427803[/snapback]
Did he not have Peter (?) lay it off for him?

So it wasn't even a dead ball tongue.gif

Did I say it was a dead ball? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-30 12:10:09
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 30 2008, 12:05 PM) [snapback]427810[/snapback]
for crap such as this.

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You've not even got me on ignore darling-you really are fatally attracted to my every post-just like all the other lying huff buttoners! sleep.gif wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-30 12:12:07
QUOTE(18-deano-ehm-74 @ Mar 30 2008, 12:05 PM) [snapback]427809[/snapback]
No, but you quoted me talking about Scott's dead balls.

AND! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-30 12:16:22
QUOTE(tom @ Mar 30 2008, 12:07 PM) [snapback]427811[/snapback]
Budding never, politician perhaps, but stirrer..... guilty.

Power be to your spoon-there are too many folk on here taking themselves WAY too seriously! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-30 12:19:15
QUOTE(Kaney @ Mar 30 2008, 12:16 PM) [snapback]427816[/snapback]
Sounds brilliant.

Make it happen someone!

Ethnic cleansing comes to greenockmorton.org! wacko.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-30 12:22:50
QUOTE(18-deano-ehm-74 @ Mar 30 2008, 12:14 PM) [snapback]427815[/snapback]
Therefore implying you were talking about Scott's free-kicks.

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All I said was that he HAD hit a scorching shot earlier. I simply introduced the possibility that that was why the others let him take it.

I didn't suggest-or think-that they should have!
mortonjag 2008-03-30 12:42:04
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 30 2008, 12:40 PM) [snapback]427825[/snapback]
like someone else said, the ignore message is as just as obtrusive, although not nearly as irritating.
talk about self-regard.

Be my guest Narcissus! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-30 12:51:14
QUOTE(18-deano-ehm-74 @ Mar 30 2008, 12:45 PM) [snapback]427827[/snapback]
It can't be wink.gif Because even after a whole day of s*** free kicks he still wants to take him.

Maybe they all owe him money!
mortonjag 2008-03-30 12:55:05
QUOTE(dj-ton @ Mar 30 2008, 12:51 PM) [snapback]427828[/snapback]
silly question,
what happens when you put someone on ignore?? does it just stop them from private messageing you?

Haven't a clue-have never done it, and don't see the point. Some of the little souls on the forum are so precious and petty.

It takes all kinds though-even the kind who wish it didn't! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-30 13:55:53
QUOTE(jpmil @ Mar 30 2008, 01:48 PM) [snapback]427848[/snapback]
I was going through this thread and kept reading (for a few moments at least) the inane Mortonjag input and then I thought to myself howcome?... he's on my "blockked list" then I realised I had forgotten to
sign in......silly old me! Now that I've signed in the site is so much better to read.

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mortonjag 2008-03-30 14:02:18
QUOTE(jpmil @ Mar 30 2008, 01:59 PM) [snapback]427852[/snapback]
I had an experience a few years ago in Spain in which 2 british teams were playing but it was being covered by a German channel with commentary in that language. However the bar owner had the TV on mute and the same game was being covered on radio by (probably) the BBC but the two don't really didn't sync and when a goal was scored the radio was 3/4 seconds ahead of the TV coverage....it was really quite amusing the raio commentator said Goal!!!!! and on TV the shot hadn't even been taken

Fascinating.
mortonjag 2008-03-30 14:22:29
QUOTE(jpmil @ Mar 30 2008, 02:12 PM) [snapback]427855[/snapback]
An extermely difficult time for anyone on the loss of a father but DI's desison to attend the game, to me signifies, his commitment to the job in hand. Thank you David the dedication is, from the supporters, recognised and much appreciated.

Does David read our forum?
mortonjag 2008-03-30 18:01:45
QUOTE(jpmil @ Mar 30 2008, 02:45 PM) [snapback]427860[/snapback]
Unfortunately the acts of JM will long outlive his departure from Cappielow. Whether it was due to the financial contraints placed upon him by DDFR (or not) in his tenure we have seen the efforts of Joe McLaughlin destroyed and any effort to bring through the training ranks of youth development teh next generation of Morton players.
With the departure of Craig Black, I see the last thread of hope going out the window.
We will become a "free transfer" club trying to pick up teh discards from other clubs and just hope things work out.
Just before Newton comes on with a quote the: Brown, Boyd and Mallon, Reilly Keirnan Strachan,
Adamson, Stevenson, Caven, McGraw & Wilson will never happen again (cerainly no in my lifetime which is running out quickly).
I've suported Morton since the 1950's and I've never seen any major trophy arrive there and will blunty accept anything before I go to my grave......preferably the Scottish Cup!!!!!!!!!!

You see the departure of young Black as symbolic of 'hope gone'.

It takes a while to dawn on some folk.

Newton knows a damned sight more than you do about the reason for our current situation.

Of course you won't see this post, as you are one of the self confessed clowns who chooses to ignore Mortonjag.
mortonjag 2008-03-30 18:13:15
QUOTE(jpmil @ Mar 30 2008, 03:03 PM) [snapback]427863[/snapback]
I honestly haven't read all the postings on this matter but with McLaughlin (and others) the delivery of set pieces frm Morton is "floated" never at "pace" and if you watch the "better teams" a la Permieship "pace is the name of the game from which defenders are immediately under pressure to clear or do and own goal.

Which makes you look arrogant?/daft as four other posters have/could have said exactly the same.

The set piece late on yesterday was ruined BTW because SM tried to land the ball in Raydale. Not much 'float'about that one as it cannoned off the wall at 100 mph! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-30 18:20:28
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 30 2008, 06:05 PM) [snapback]427903[/snapback]
No its not! There's only 2 goals in it GD (-20 v -22) We are less likely to lose big than Clyde.

For once I agree with you, numbers man-even if it's just to disagree with that clown!

I know you didn't manage yesterday-the self belief is definitely creeping back-the fans were united behind the lads, and there wasn't one passenger.

I'm pretty sure Davie Irons had many things on his mind yesterday-he deserved this, and we could have snatched three points. It's feeling much better.


'GOOFED'


I think not.
mortonjag 2008-03-30 18:23:21
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 30 2008, 06:18 PM) [snapback]427906[/snapback]
Barring poor delivery, the players in the box are hardly making lung-bursting and intelligent runs when the ball comes into the area.
We miss players like Hawke to take advantage of these situations.
Delivery is not the only problem with our set pieces.

Correct-a skilled player can put plenty of bend on the modern ball without 'tanking it'.

No coconut shy without coconuts.
mortonjag 2008-03-30 18:25:16
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Mar 30 2008, 04:46 PM) [snapback]427886[/snapback]
Your barks worse than your bite.

I'm a big sap really.
mortonjag 2008-03-30 18:28:59
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 30 2008, 06:25 PM) [snapback]427910[/snapback]
I'm not much younger than you and my 'first' real Morton team had a forward line of Adamson, Stevenson, Caven. McGraw and Wilson. You have to remember that we are in different times now. In those days Morton were at least on a par with any team outside the top six. Old firm players got paid £100-150 per week and our guys were on £50 (I know because my dad was a bookie and the whole team bet with him in the sixties - I knew there wages because of their credit limits) Does anyone think that Morton players are currently on about a third of old firm wages?

One thing I do agree with you on though is the lack of a proper youth setup. As we are structured we will never see another Joe Harper or George Anderson or Joe McLaughlin come through the ranks because there are no ranks for them to come through.

Mr Rae, if you want to leave Morton a legacy, a decent youth setup should be it. Nothing else you do has the same potential to provide for Morton's future.

Oh and JPMIL, the best you and I can hope for is to see them back in the top league before we die!

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mortonjag 2008-03-30 18:30:36
QUOTE(Deficon @ Mar 30 2008, 06:28 PM) [snapback]427913[/snapback]
who knows if he does? blink.gif
perhaps u have his number so we can all text him instead?,
Or even his email and we'll forward them on mortonjag, how would that be for you?
Thanks for letting us all use the board,
you know - we are thankfull to you for that but also the privilege that we can us it for things other than talking Sh*te.

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mortonjag 2008-03-30 18:34:53
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 30 2008, 06:27 PM) [snapback]427912[/snapback]
I disagree.

You would!


OK Kev was his usual frustrating self and missed a good chance and faded in the second half, but he still worked his baws off had a good shot on goal and almost created one for Spoonsy-PLUS all the usual tracking back to help the defence.

NOT a passenger by any means!
mortonjag 2008-03-30 19:50:06
QUOTE(Deego @ Mar 30 2008, 06:41 PM) [snapback]427920[/snapback]
I wasn't talking about Kevin.

That's a refreshing change-if McGuffie's your target this week-back off-he was vastly improved especially in the first half and blended well with Pantaloons. Queens were outplayed in the midfield yesterday, and what did get through was dealt with pretty well by the defence.

It's just a wee shame we're lacking in options up front, but Rome wasn't built in a day.
mortonjag 2008-03-30 19:54:09 One game at a time. Most would have settled for a draw away at Palmerston, as Queens have been s*** hot of late.

Now our turn to put one over the DEE for the first time this season?


I'm really LOOKING FORWARD to this game-that's a first for quite a while. The Monkey is excited too.
mortonjag 2008-03-30 20:01:32
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Mar 30 2008, 07:58 PM) [snapback]427961[/snapback]
The Wee Dublin End, the guy with the bugle, no segregation, pre season friendlies against teams who were something, the steam coming off the crowd in the cowshed on a wet day, Joe Harper poaching another and Billy Osborne acting like a true mentalist.

Indeed, by far one of the least talented and most effective battering rams of all time. Great excitement.

Bring back SUGAR!!!
mortonjag 2008-03-30 20:02:49
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Mar 30 2008, 04:59 PM) [snapback]427888[/snapback]
Hopefully we can now flush out the s*** in the team, or he could end up being pish and it'll be more money down the pan?

Any other portaloo puns? I think that just about covers it. Close this thread before that mortonjag guy shows up.

I have already mentioned PANTALOONS! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-30 20:08:31 McAnespie apparently approached the club about training facilities in the first instance. He was hailed by our Chairman in the usual 'look at what I've done for you again' manner----ex-premiership player who will.......etc., etc.


I have yet to see him put in a decent shift.
mortonjag 2008-03-30 20:17:44
QUOTE(big B @ Mar 30 2008, 08:06 PM) [snapback]427965[/snapback]
Hopefully the fans turnout in force for this one and we get a decent crowd that also make a decent atmosphere because it does help the team as was shown against Kilmarnock.

Exactly BB-Dundee are desperate for the points and will bring a large crowd. This is our chance to finally prove the power of the Cowshed by turning it into a true cup tie atmosphere. Everything to play for IMO.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 06:38:25
QUOTE(PCP @ Mar 30 2008, 08:58 PM) [snapback]427976[/snapback]
What is the meaning of life?

Gap between nothing and nothing.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 06:41:43
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 30 2008, 10:26 PM) [snapback]428014[/snapback]
I'm probably not as good at the BREAST stroke as you ?!*&

I have never behaved unethically, though! mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-31 06:43:27
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 30 2008, 10:27 PM) [snapback]428017[/snapback]
we know

Are you pining for me?
mortonjag 2008-03-31 06:49:05
QUOTE(leyTON @ Mar 30 2008, 11:34 PM) [snapback]428040[/snapback]
but salmond wants to keep the royaals, so he wouldnt have a referundum, eben after independence to scrap them

No he doesn't-it's just a con. Bawheid only believes in one King-Cole, with his fiddlers, three.......


Swinney, Sturgeon, and Hyslop.

Anyway, let's get this bloody referendum over and done with.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 06:55:26
QUOTE(SramTon @ Mar 30 2008, 09:49 PM) [snapback]427992[/snapback]
Sadly due to the inadequacies of the ignore button, I had the privilege of reading that.

I'm not sure what a "dust-sad" is, but please don't bother to explain.

I'm assuming that request is directed to me Beltrami.

I won't explain.

Anything to keep the almost educated happy. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-31 06:58:47
QUOTE(alexp @ Mar 30 2008, 11:13 PM) [snapback]428030[/snapback]
if you actually want to ignore him, why make a thread about him, just to give him more attention? huh.gif

It's called 'fatal fascination'.

It's a condition all too common in Morton supporters-inability to learn from previous unhappy experiences.

I've got MJ on 'ignore' = 'I'll never be back to Cappielow' laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-31 07:02:22
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 31 2008, 01:57 AM) [snapback]428077[/snapback]
telling us how he got his first 'hard on' when Shoogly was tying his shoelaces in hospitality.
mortonjag, could please clarify the antecedent to eliminate the ambiguity ?

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laugh.gif


Today's children don't wear proper lacing shoes Newt! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-31 07:08:08
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 30 2008, 09:05 PM) [snapback]427977[/snapback]
Why can't I believe her? laugh.gif

Because she's a brain dead mutant worm?

Because 'socialism' is dead?

Because you're a sceptic?

Folk who hate politicians and children are not ALL bad Mr Edwards.

Anarchy is the only hope!
mortonjag 2008-03-31 07:14:13
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 31 2008, 07:07 AM) [snapback]428091[/snapback]
You might never be a merry old soul if you don't get your Old King Cole.



....and why were you UP so early this morning Mr Edwards?
mortonjag 2008-03-31 07:20:13
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 30 2008, 11:27 PM) [snapback]428037[/snapback]
FFS you are a complete moron.
It was going to happen in January "until JM resigned"?
JM resigned in the middle of February, you pillock. blink.gif
Why do we allow Internet access to people in psychiatric units I do not know.

...and thankfully you can do nothing to stop us! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-31 07:21:34 Will you be letting Shoogly into the secrets of your big sack?
mortonjag 2008-03-31 07:23:32 Being able to swear without fear of offending the sprogs of Holy Willies.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 07:26:50
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Mar 30 2008, 08:37 PM) [snapback]427969[/snapback]
Hopefully we will at least have it in our own hands if it goes to the last game. I hate the thought of having to go to the last game relying on others c***ing it up though if it really comes down to it and that is how we survive I will take it.

Will MJ's ticker take all the excitement of a final day showdown ? tongue.gif

Don't worry Gash-the Monkey is experienced in CPR and unlike Shoogly we have our own 'Heartstart' at matches.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 07:30:10
QUOTE(jim4ton @ Mar 31 2008, 12:18 AM) [snapback]428071[/snapback]
I thought Paartalu was ok as a defensive mid with an impressive long throw in. Will he win us games? Don't think so. Will he stop us getting beat? He will help - as he did on Saturday. An early opinion - I hope the boy proves to be more than I thought on first impressions.

He scored several goals at Gretna before Wadsworth took a dislike to him apparently.

Reminiscent of the big guy the Jags had on loan from the Huns a couple of seasons back. If he's utilised to effect he'll get us goals.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 07:34:35
QUOTE(Cowshed Chris @ Mar 31 2008, 12:53 AM) [snapback]428073[/snapback]
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Yeah ok, what's the point in that? Rae has already hinted that the priority is to start upgrading the stadium to SPL standard for when we're back down in the second again. Money should not be wasted on a proper youth system, or providing for the future.

Why should Shoogly bother his aged arse with a youth set-up when he's already 77?

I think that is a perfectly fair question to ask of a man who is a self centred pachyderm.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 07:42:28



Scotland's richest man has urged political leaders to move swiftly to a vote on independence.

After a week of activity by both nationalists and parties arguing for more powers for Holyrood within the UK, property tycoon and philanthropist Sir Tom Hunter said there should be a "yes-no" choice so people can "invest" in whichever they choose.

While not saying which way he would vote, he wrote an article saying there is confusion, disillusionment and a lack of an informed debate, and that people are "fed up with the posturing, positioning and pontification".
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He ridiculed proposals by First Minister Alex Salmond to have a multi-option ballot paper, comparing it with voting in The X Factor.

His call was welcomed by First Minister Alex Salmond, who used it to step up his campaign for other parties to concede there should be a referendum on Scotland's constitutional future.

The SNP's preference is for a straightforward "independence or not" referendum. But, in order to win enough support at Holyrood for such a vote to take place, it has offered the three parties behind the new Scottish Parliament Commission, headed by Sir Kenneth Calman, an opportunity to put an option on the form of a clearly worked-out plan for more devolved powers to the parliament instead.

Labour leader Wendy Alexander also welcomed Sir Tom's comments, for "seeing through the absurdity of the multi-option referendum".

At Labour's Aviemore conference, Scotland Secretary Des Browne argued elections are the appropriate time for people to state their views on constitutional options, and parties supporting the union have always won decisively.

With Mr Salmond saying the case for a referendum is becoming "irresistible", the SNP is pursuing its case with a reminder from 1992 that Gordon Brown, when in opposition, called for a multi-option referendum to show the then Tory Government the level of support for constitutional change in Scotland. Ms Alexander was then research officer at party headquarters.

Speaking at the conference, Harriet Harman, deputy party leader at Westminster, admitted the party had worked more closely before Scottish devolution. "It means we have to work harder to make sure that we continue to work together," she said. "We have to look for new ways to work together."

At the Scottish Socialist Party conference this weekend, leader and former MSP Colin Fox joined the calls for an independence referendum.


When so called philanthropists start dictating in the political arena, questions must be asked.

True Cardinals merely attempt to blackmail MSPs with 'conscience'. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-31 08:50:41
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 31 2008, 08:35 AM) [snapback]428109[/snapback]
you were doing so well with the multiple quoting aswell. sad.giftongue.gif

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Correct my boy, but this is one of my rare 'annoy people' mornings. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-31 08:53:02
QUOTE(Cowshed Chris @ Mar 31 2008, 08:02 AM) [snapback]428102[/snapback]
so long as when Rae departs he has "the Rae Stand" to carry on his legacy, I see no reason to suggest he'd be even semi-interested in a good youth setup.

We already have a shoogly stand Chris.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 08:55:34
QUOTE(irvineTON @ Mar 31 2008, 08:21 AM) [snapback]428106[/snapback]
I agree, pity it was only a small pocket of us that were actually singing tho!! wink.gif
Alot just sat silent as per usual. sad.gif

The singing was excellent, but everybody was vocal and clapping-at least from where we were sitting that's how it was.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 10:19:11
QUOTE(Cowshed Chris @ Mar 31 2008, 10:00 AM) [snapback]428122[/snapback]
I personally think it's about time the media and whoever whoever left Tommy Sheridan alone to live his life - he is clearly being victimised. I've spoken with Tommy enough times to know that if he was doing what is alleged, he's certainly not stupid enough to get caught doing it.

Any new "evidence" that has been found has clearly been manufactured as part of the ongoing conspiracy against him.

I don't always agree with his political views, but one things for sure - he's some guy.

Chris-if he's being victimised, as you suggest, he might NOT realise the lengths to which others will go to expose any weaknesses.

Sheridan has dared to antagonise the establishment-that automatically makes him victim and cult hero simultaneously.

My personal take is that he's one of life's chancers, and an absolute charmer with it. No surprise that many see him as some kind of Messiah.

His luck's just run out.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 11:52:55
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Mar 31 2008, 11:41 AM) [snapback]428132[/snapback]
i miss being able to eat a pie without spilling brown sauce down yerself.

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mortonjag 2008-03-31 12:14:05
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Mar 31 2008, 12:01 PM) [snapback]428137[/snapback]
what? when the caterers had the old sauce it didnt run as bad the sauce that does now.

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Ah-I see -it's dribbly sauce you're complaining about-I was worried in case you'd developed early Parkinson's disease or something! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-31 12:16:38
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 31 2008, 12:12 PM) [snapback]428141[/snapback]
Of course, he's 21 points ahead of Chris Millar, and it's only 5 points for a MOM, with 4 games left.

The play-offs were not considered at the start of the season.

Most of us didn't imagine the current situation. sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-31 12:19:44
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Mar 31 2008, 12:01 PM) [snapback]428138[/snapback]
You need four showers,one for each side of her! She's kinda cute though... blink.gif

Good partner for 44 tonner?
mortonjag 2008-03-31 13:35:14
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Mar 31 2008, 12:49 PM) [snapback]428152[/snapback]
What a cheery outlook.

Ok doc, what causes skipped heartbeats? I know it's an easy one for you but I'd like to know.

Hunners of causes. Quite common in fit young adults and often of no significance.

Two good examples:

Kev Finlayson with a clear run in on goal.

Stu and Ryan within twenty yards of each other, when high ball comes into box.

Should be checked out of course! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-31 13:42:08
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Mar 31 2008, 01:20 PM) [snapback]428162[/snapback]
Don't think I could get her in the cab with me MJ!

She IS a big girl!

I think she should stick to mini skirts-don't you?
mortonjag 2008-03-31 13:43:50
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Mar 31 2008, 12:43 PM) [snapback]428148[/snapback]
huh.gif Started taking your prozac again?

General nonsense for that pish.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 13:47:32
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Mar 31 2008, 01:09 PM) [snapback]428156[/snapback]
We can't think about the Gretna consequences, but I have been informed that the SPL (Shepards) and the SPL (Sheep) have been in discussions again aimed at removing Gretna from the Scottish League for breaching this, that and everything else they can think of. They will not be allowed to groundshare as has been mentioned somewhere else before and their ground will not be brought up to any decent standard any time soon.

I believe this is being done to prevent another Airdrie/Clydebank situation as the powers that be don't want a consortium buying their registration.

A non-league side have already been contacted (this is a definite) and sounded out as to how quickly they could be ready for the move up to the SFL. But a legal process may be launched which will prevent this.

The SPL have only bailed them out as they are terrified what impact this all has on future sponsorship's etc.

If none of these discussions deliver then I'm afraid we may well end up in the play-off, which I for one am dreading. But my opinion on current displays only goes on what my pals have told me, and they are a bit more optimistic, after this Saturdays game I can form my own opinion on our chances.

You are a cynical man.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 13:49:50
QUOTE(Alibi @ Mar 31 2008, 01:13 PM) [snapback]428158[/snapback]
..or he'll sign for Dundee as soon as the transfer window opens as per the normal course of events....

...and Shoogly will be bleating about giving him a desperately needed job, only to be snubbed.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 13:53:31
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 31 2008, 01:25 PM) [snapback]428164[/snapback]
is today will we sign anyone else on loan, or any free agents?

Just heard a rumour from an insider that Deuchar was not free to leave the NHS and could start work in Greenock 'very shortly'.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 13:58:54
QUOTE(ukTON @ Mar 31 2008, 01:52 PM) [snapback]428172[/snapback]
havin been in glasgow few weeks ago, one of my mates wanted to go see a team called Greenock Morton who his dad watched when he worked for IBM ten year ago I thot fuk that, havin then went to game enjoyed it and will be keeping eye on scores, hope the ton stay up!

nice wee ground, not quite the bridge though




GOOD years don't come along very often in Greenock. 1979, however, was a great one. It may have happened during the demise of the shipbuilding industry, a decline which ripped the heart out of the town, but it will long be remembered as the greatest year for the town's football club, Greenock Morton.

In that season, Andy Ritchie was the Scottish Football Writers' Player of the Year, and the club was etched firmly on to the Scottish football map.


Diehard fans may argue that 1968 was of equally great, if not more, importance. That was when Morton met Chelsea in the Fairs' Cities Cup, known today as the UEFA Cup. The 5-0 defeat at Stamford Bridge and 4-3 loss at Cappielow matter little to the fans of that time. They were there. That aside, the team of the late seventies - bossed by Benny Rooney - achieved cult status among the Greenock faithful, in particular Ritchie. It was a memorable period in the club's history, and, during that 1979-80 season, Morton sat proudly at the top of the Premier League for a number of weeks. Of the side who graced the blue and white hoops, or the orange change strip when the Old Firm visited, Ritchie, now chief scout with Celtic - the team he left to join Morton - is the most talked about, and he can be assured of a warm welcome when the Hoops arrive at Cappielow for tomorrow night's Tennents Scottish Cup quarter-final. He joined the club in 1976, when they were languishing at the bottom of the First Division, but in the five years that followed, Morton were a Premier League club and Ritchie was never out of the headlines. Visually, he was never considered a typical, athletic footballer. Frequently, he came in for stick about his waistline, was described as 'clever on his feet for a big man', and, at training, rumour has it, he ran at the back of the pack with a young goalkeeper who made him look quick. Nevertheless, Ritchie was, and still is, a hero at Cappielow. "I wasn't the best player at Morton then," he insists. "Jim Holmes was more talented. He played at Cappielow for 10 years and, while I got the publicity, it was Jim who should have played at a higher level. "I had great days there. I enjoyed them, and I think the Morton fans enjoyed them, too. We were all part-time, and nobody was earning a lot of money. The shipyards were still on the go, so a lot of the boys worked there, then trained at night. "It meant that the guys had to go to work the day after a game, so they didn't want to go not having given the likes of Celtic, Rangers and Aberdeen a good game. "Cappielow was like a fortress in those days and no side liked going there. The team were exciting to watch because they scored a lot of goals, and we were also getting big crowds." Despite his protests on whether or not he deserves to be remembered as the greatest Morton player of all time, a European Silver Boot adds weight to the status he has been afforded by the Cappielow support. Likewise, the fact he was a part-time footballer when he picked up both awards is further evidence of the high regard in which his talent was held. Much has changed in football terms since Ritchie and his team- mates split up. On the park, fortunes have fluctuated, their last worthwhile entry in the record books coming in season 1994/95, when they won promotion to the First Division. One thing which has remained constant, however, is Cappielow. Ritchie said: "I look at the place and I feel as if I've gone back 20 years, because it's not changed at all. Hopefully, the club and the council can get together, because I'd imagine the players, the staff and the fans would dearly like a new stadium." Andy Ritchie's skill takes him past Celtic's Andy Lynch


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mortonjag 2008-03-31 15:21:31
QUOTE(Edinton @ Mar 31 2008, 02:18 PM) [snapback]428177[/snapback]
I'll have a shifty at the admin panel / backend and see if 'hiding' can be done. I don't own the licence for the software at the moment though, so our options may be limited. Always open for donations of course....

I'll be looking for a cut then! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-31 15:22:44
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Mar 31 2008, 02:57 PM) [snapback]428191[/snapback]
No more I promise!

Especially as I keep messing them up!

What have you done? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-31 15:25:39
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Mar 31 2008, 02:32 PM) [snapback]428184[/snapback]
Gretna goalkeeper Greg Fleming is being chased by Motherwell, Morton and Oldham. (The Herald)

According to the BBC's rumour mill machine.

ScotinBelgie

Guess who's not getting him! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-31 15:27:19
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Mar 31 2008, 02:18 PM) [snapback]428178[/snapback]
Quoted chapter and verse from where?

Can't remember-it was for the Chelsea boy's information!

You didn't imagine I'd claim that mundane sporting journalese for my own!!! rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-31 15:30:09
QUOTE(midTONs @ Mar 31 2008, 03:25 PM) [snapback]428199[/snapback]
Morton 2 St Johnstone 2

(Allegedly Kieran scoring from a free kick)

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mortonjag 2008-03-31 15:33:04
QUOTE(Bryan @ Mar 31 2008, 03:31 PM) [snapback]428202[/snapback]
oldham laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-31 16:15:24
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Mar 31 2008, 03:57 PM) [snapback]428206[/snapback]
And who else? Or will he be shared? tongue.gif

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Aye --we get him, but he plays all his games at Fir Park! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-31 20:10:56
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Mar 31 2008, 05:36 PM) [snapback]428225[/snapback]
no doubt he was holding out for a club higher up the league. If the rumours are true rolleyes.gif he was offered a grand a week blink.gif doubt many clubs would match that

Very true-we're hard to beat in the rumours league.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 20:14:32
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 31 2008, 07:43 PM) [snapback]428251[/snapback]
Gidday ThornTON,

Where and when did you see Craig play please ?

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mortonjag 2008-03-31 20:19:12
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Mar 31 2008, 07:16 PM) [snapback]428246[/snapback]
Yeh I think so and a guy with a pony tail, I nearly knocked him of his seat, poor lamb. A belated hello

Bleated?
mortonjag 2008-03-31 20:23:19
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 31 2008, 07:03 PM) [snapback]428244[/snapback]
Christmas day? wink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-31 20:25:22
QUOTE(NewTon @ Mar 31 2008, 07:49 PM) [snapback]428256[/snapback]
If it takes 4 men 6 hours to dig a hole, how long would it take 6 men to dig half a hole ?

A haggis souffle.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 20:26:24
QUOTE(C B @ Mar 31 2008, 08:05 PM) [snapback]428266[/snapback]
Why is it when you're trying to find something you've lost, its always in the last place you look for it !? rolleyes.gif

....only if you find it!
mortonjag 2008-03-31 20:41:59 General nonsense-just checked and I've only contributed on 1/3 of today's threads.

The children seem to be hi-jacking with play station, wrestling, choons and films, jokes, personal messages, and unfunnies from u-tube.

What happened to original thought and intelligent discussion-oh and I forgot -there's always the standard-slag mortonjag thread to save the dog from a good clugging. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-31 20:44:59
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Mar 31 2008, 08:31 PM) [snapback]428287[/snapback]
If Innes has gone to the MLS (see above), then there is no way Morton could have matched that. Deuchar is reportedly on £9K a week with Real Salt Lake! sad.gif

Then the greedy c*nt could easily pay us back for his buckshee medical training. mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-31 20:48:22
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 31 2008, 08:43 PM) [snapback]428290[/snapback]
Ok jag here is your lesson for the day.

For each post you want to quote click the quote button. It will turn red rather than blue. Do this to all the ones you want to quote and then click "add reply".

In the reply box you have simply put your replies under the quotes.

So from now on you don't need to post about 12 replies in a row!

...and here is yours smartarse-bend over...


Wallop-wallop-wallop-wallop-wallop-


Oh and up here in the real world, 24 hour shops actually DO stay open 24/7-well at least the moo slim ones.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 20:50:35
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Mar 31 2008, 08:44 PM) [snapback]428291[/snapback]
How can Alexander promise socialism when she's never been a socialist? She and Douglas Alexander are perfect examples of the new political class, could be either Tories or Labour. How would you ever know?
At least Salmond has nailed his colours to the right-wing, homophobic and corporate mast. We know where he stands.

Naked six inches behind Soapy?
mortonjag 2008-03-31 21:03:57
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 31 2008, 08:54 PM) [snapback]428298[/snapback]
So you do actually take note of how sad you appear on here then? wink.gif

I don't normally bother. I was just getting a bit pissed off with the unwarranted victimisation and lack of appreciation of my hugely valuable input, so I had a check.

Really you lot have a good F*CKING CHEEK-most of you appear to be a shower of mindless little morons, and the saddest thing of all is that some actually try to COMPETE with the Jag in matters of import.

When did he ever argue the toss over Ps3, wrastling, or the best ride on the telly-bar none?

No, little shrunken one-Mr Jag is far from sad-he has his Monkey-the Fing.....hold on please....................................and can still enjoy a good keech in peace. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-31 21:04:47
QUOTE(C B @ Mar 31 2008, 08:56 PM) [snapback]428302[/snapback]
Talk about creating one for yourself blink.gif

DOH tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-31 21:12:26
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 31 2008, 09:05 PM) [snapback]428306[/snapback]
The Jag is here
And he's PISSSSSSSSSEEEEED OOOOOOOOOFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
Can see it in the Record soon "Retired Doctor Batters Monkey"

Don't be a silly Billy-the Monkey shares my opinions.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 21:17:37
QUOTE(SramTon @ Mar 31 2008, 09:04 PM) [snapback]428305[/snapback]
biggrin.gif Now that was a genuine witty remark.

I am under no illusion that you give a toss what I think of your posts but, for what it's worth, I do think you make some good, and on occasion amusing, points.

However, I really don't have the time or inclination to wade through the slurry to get to the gems.

You can't write 17,000 plus worthwhile posts in under 3 years. It's simply not possible.

Jose Morinho doing the football postings and Oscar Wilde doing the witticisms would struggle (have struggled in Oscar's case) to match that output between them. I know the board could have done without many of my 700-odd posting (probably including this one).

So, nothing personal amigo but less is often more and if the only way I can get less is by clicking a much sought after "hide" button then that's as much my perogative as it's yours to continue posting at your present levels.

Unfortunately, I'll miss out on (in my view) your good stuff but the gains outweigh the losses.

Your opinions and prerogative are yours and yours alone.

If I wasn't Mortonjag I'd hate the old c*nt too Beltrami. I think you've been very polite, and very patient. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-31 21:19:54
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 31 2008, 08:53 PM) [snapback]428296[/snapback]
And in Greenock the 24 hour shops close on Friday and Saturdays between about midnight and 4am smile.gif

And kindly stop walloping yourself on a public forum, there must be a male public toilet for that in "Glesca toon" somwhere wink.gif

unsure.gif Are you in denial?
mortonjag 2008-03-31 21:22:02
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 31 2008, 09:14 PM) [snapback]428310[/snapback]
Work. Some of us still have to. tongue.gif

You find it an imposition? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-31 21:22:49
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 31 2008, 09:16 PM) [snapback]428312[/snapback]
Poor Fing then!!!! ohmy.gif

We both fear Fing of the Nail Gun.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 21:25:39
QUOTE(C B @ Mar 31 2008, 08:54 PM) [snapback]428300[/snapback]
Sounds more like delirium blink.gif

The big ginger one used to head home a fair few. I reckon Andy Ritchie could get him a dozen over the course of a season.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 21:30:03
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Mar 31 2008, 09:23 PM) [snapback]428317[/snapback]
That attitude has got us to this stage, when does it change? Unless we start to plan for the future now we'll just go backwards.

If Shoogly wasn't skint, and didn't live in cloud cuckoo land, we could do both simultaneously.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 21:33:46
QUOTE(BluebirdTon @ Mar 31 2008, 09:29 PM) [snapback]428321[/snapback]
Looks like a good signing.

A few dodgy clearances but atleast,unlike some others in our squad,he attempts it ! I'll hand the blame to the weather conditions though.

Good at finding a pass and winning the ball in the air.Will hopefully dislodge that carthorse McGuffie from the team. wink.gif

McGuffie looked much better playing beside him, especially in the first half. I think Morton with PANTALOONS will stay up.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 21:34:59
QUOTE(alexp @ Mar 31 2008, 09:29 PM) [snapback]428320[/snapback]
well, it looks like im 2 for 2 when it comes to rumours about gretna players going to mls cool.gif

btw, duechar was subbed on in the 73rd minute of rsl's season opening 1-1 draw with chicago

Came on or taken off?
mortonjag 2008-03-31 21:35:56
QUOTE(Tontaster @ Mar 31 2008, 09:29 PM) [snapback]428323[/snapback]
Why not start wake russell hasnt scored in ages and it is time that wake got a chance to actual play ninety instead of just being a sub his whole life.

Short memory!
mortonjag 2008-03-31 21:40:00
QUOTE(leyTON @ Mar 31 2008, 09:37 PM) [snapback]428330[/snapback]
ah
i thought you were all, and by all i mean right sied of the cowshed next to the stairs at the back crew, were gourock high cats in 5th year
what school are you in?

Stavanger Special. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-31 21:42:28
QUOTE(SramTon @ Mar 31 2008, 09:40 PM) [snapback]428333[/snapback]
I can't argue with that smile.gif

With regard to spelling, my house got broken into on Wednesday and my laptop nicked. I'm "typing" all my posts on a Wii. One typo in that lot has got to be within tolerance!

Anyway, I'm only encouraging you to post another reply on this thread.

Go on, show us all that you can resist the urge smile.gif

Mye daddie izza wai phorrah nupher jobbie (sined Munx) xxx
mortonjag 2008-03-31 21:44:32
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 31 2008, 09:40 PM) [snapback]428334[/snapback]
Do we know where Eck stands I wonder. What's the rationale behind the 3 option referendum? What happens if it's a 3 way split, won't that amount to a majority against independence? Is Eck hedging his bets, knowing that he'll be content as First Minister of a devolved parliament with extended powers? Whatever, I don't trust him. There should only be one question on the referendum paper: Self Determination Yes or No.

Bawheid is a professional gambler.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 21:48:34
QUOTE(Tontaster @ Mar 31 2008, 09:37 PM) [snapback]428331[/snapback]
Explain blink.gif

Wake got two or three starts as soon as he arrived-NO WAY has he been simply used as a sub-he's earned that place.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 21:50:32
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Mar 31 2008, 09:44 PM) [snapback]428337[/snapback]
Came on as a sub. Chicago scored in the 92nd minute

My kind of town Chicago is... laugh.gif

Get it up you Deuchar-ship jumper.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 21:53:17
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 31 2008, 09:47 PM) [snapback]428340[/snapback]
Feck you McArthur, for being another ageist. tongue.gif I said I'm fine with Cappielow for the moment. Right now we need success on the park. What's the point of building an SPL compliant stadium if you have little prospect of getting there. Build a successful team first, the stadium after.

Known in football parlance as the 'Mileson Model'.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 21:55:15
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Mar 31 2008, 09:47 PM) [snapback]428338[/snapback]
Living with yous I'm not surprised he is attempting mass murder!!!

Oh dear-has he been talking to you?
mortonjag 2008-03-31 21:57:53
QUOTE(Jackie @ Mar 31 2008, 09:49 PM) [snapback]428342[/snapback]
Only? laugh.gif

Edit - Out of interest MJ, how many posts have their been in the General Nonsense section today?

Indeed ONLY!!!

You see I'm repeatedly accused by the puerile hegemony of 'hi-jacking every thread'.


You seem typical of the problem in that you can't even count! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-31 22:04:16
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 31 2008, 09:57 PM) [snapback]428349[/snapback]
Another day, another attack on the SNP. rolleyes.gif

EH!!!!!


Look at his disclosure of personal details and donations Spurtle-Bawheid is interested in more than just the Holyrood cuddies. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-31 22:05:40
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 31 2008, 09:53 PM) [snapback]428345[/snapback]
Getting up early in the mornings, yes. Driving home at night, no. laugh.gif

Why did you move?
mortonjag 2008-03-31 22:07:15
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 31 2008, 10:01 PM) [snapback]428353[/snapback]
Do you trust Eck?

...or do you think he may be cheating on you? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-31 22:08:19
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 31 2008, 10:07 PM) [snapback]428359[/snapback]
To answer your question honestly, I do.

But I know where you are coming from. He has to deliver a referendum one way or another.
If he doesn't, the party could get a bit anxious that he has failed to deliver. If the result in a referendum was NO, he can say I gave you a referendum, what else could I do ?

But, I believe we will win a YES vote anyway rolleyes.gif

Can we now have the dishonest answer please? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-31 22:11:11
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 31 2008, 09:58 PM) [snapback]428350[/snapback]
Cappielow = Raydale? I don't think so. Cappielow could be made SPL compliant. And I said build a successful team, not bust the bank to buy one instantly.

I agree with you in principle DE, but the truth is, Shoogly IS skint in real terms.

With adequate funding and planning we could move both things forward in harmony. Somebody has to get it right sooner or later.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 22:11:41
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Mar 31 2008, 10:01 PM) [snapback]428354[/snapback]
Couldn't agree more, we are light years behind teams of a similar size. And guess what its not the fans fault !!!!

A succession of owners have let this club down badly.

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mortonjag 2008-03-31 22:14:35
QUOTE(Jackie @ Mar 31 2008, 10:09 PM) [snapback]428364[/snapback]
Spelling error. Woops. So, tell me your secrets, how do you find out how many posts have been made in this section of the forum today? Don't tell me to go away and count them all.



General nonsense-just checked and I've only contributed on 1/3 of today's threads.



Guess you can't read either! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-31 22:15:58
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 31 2008, 10:08 PM) [snapback]428363[/snapback]
Homosexual insinuation...?? blink.gif

...popularly described as fudge packing!
mortonjag 2008-03-31 22:17:19
QUOTE(port-ton @ Mar 31 2008, 10:01 PM) [snapback]428355[/snapback]
did he not start Iron's first game against St Johnstone?

Stop being argumentative.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 22:19:18
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 31 2008, 10:08 PM) [snapback]428362[/snapback]
I give you Greacen and Harding! I missed Saturday's game, first one for a long time but have seen all the rest and we are getting a lot tighter defensively which I think is largely down to much improved performances from mostly Greacen but also Harding. There fewer silly mistakes and better covering,

Now if only we could get someone to start scoring goals
!!

PANTALOONS will not let us down.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 22:20:29
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 31 2008, 10:17 PM) [snapback]428371[/snapback]
I'll take you're word for that wink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-03-31 22:24:55
QUOTE(standman @ Mar 31 2008, 10:19 PM) [snapback]428374[/snapback]
Today's comment in the Tele about McGuffie was that he had one of his quieter games !!

All this guy's games are quiet.

For such a big guy I've yet to see him impose himself on a match.

If Jenkins is fit for saturday it leaves the manager with a headache as to who drops out.

Do you shift McGuffie to right back - supposedly a better position for his talents - at the expense of someone in the back four who kept a clean sheet ?

Or do you drop him in the hope then penny drops wih him that he needs to pull his finger out ?

Thoughts ?

The Tilly is talking sh*te. McGuffie was much improved, especially in the first half-our midfield deserve a lot of credit for Saturday's display-Queens hardly got a sniff of goal for 90 minutes-AS CONFIRMED by their own fans. Stu and Hardy had a fairly easy day dealing with speculative long balls.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 22:42:06
QUOTE(Jackie @ Mar 31 2008, 10:22 PM) [snapback]428378[/snapback]
Apparently neither can you, perhaps if I use your usual trick of highlighting everying in fuchsia. I asked how many posts have there been in the general nonsense section today. I can only figure this out once you tell me how many posts you have made.

I'm well aware of your apparently pointless question. I was talking about threads. If you can't count posts, so be it!
mortonjag 2008-03-31 22:43:29
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Mar 31 2008, 10:29 PM) [snapback]428388[/snapback]
Maybe if you ease off a little with the quoting and stuff then maybe people wouldnt get pissed off. Personally I dont mind, no1 annoys me very much. Brian wake the exception.

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mortonjag 2008-03-31 22:44:45
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Mar 31 2008, 10:33 PM) [snapback]428392[/snapback]
"Retired Doctor spanks his monkey" wink.gif

QUACK GOES APE
mortonjag 2008-03-31 22:50:27
QUOTE(standman @ Mar 31 2008, 10:31 PM) [snapback]428391[/snapback]
I can't go along with that. I kept a careful watch on what he was up to - his passing was woeful and his contribution is not great.

Don't get me wrong, guys like Scott mcLaughlin are to blame as well.

It's just that McGuffie should be showing why he was playing at Premier League level...I don't even think he's at First Division level at the moment.

And we're stuck with him next year as well.



He had a quieter second half. My brother and I both thought he was pretty effective in the first-not creative-but effective in cancelling them out.


QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Mar 31 2008, 10:39 PM) [snapback]428395[/snapback]
I thought he actually had a good first half - and I'm one of his biggest critics. However, in the second he reverted to what we're used to seeing from him: absolutely bugger all. He needs to stop hiding and get himself involved in games, as we really can't have any passengers at the moment, and that's exactly what McGuffie is.


Slight contradiction Dunning-he WAS pretty quiet in the second!

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 31 2008, 10:43 PM) [snapback]428399[/snapback]
I don't think you can touch the defence just now. At last they seem to be gelling together and keeping clean sheets.

Nice to see they're keeping the 'gel' all to themselves. Andy Bryan would approve.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 22:53:45
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Mar 31 2008, 10:44 PM) [snapback]428401[/snapback]
Ach well goodnight Doctor, be sure to keep the blood pressure down.



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QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Mar 31 2008, 10:46 PM) [snapback]428404[/snapback]
Right thats it, ignore list for you.

Nah seriously some of your posts have valid points, some dont. Mines are all general pish but everyone posts a pile of pish now and again which no1 agrees with. That is the power of an opinion.

My epic speech is now finished.


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QUOTE(Jackie @ Mar 31 2008, 10:49 PM) [snapback]428409[/snapback]
laugh.gif - © Mortonjag 07-08


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mortonjag 2008-03-31 23:39:57
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 31 2008, 10:47 PM) [snapback]428406[/snapback]
To come home. For all its shortcomings Inverclyde is, for me anyway, the best in the west. I've seen a few sights around the world, but the view from Tower Hill still does it for me. And the real people of Inverclyde (never mind the neds and the scumbags) are among the best I've ever known.

I'd quite like to retire 'doon the watter' somewhere too DE. I have business interests up here, and my partner also works in the South side, so too inconvenient at present..
mortonjag 2008-03-31 23:43:49
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Mar 31 2008, 10:52 PM) [snapback]428414[/snapback]
Why are really warm, silent farts so much smellier than the starfish rippers?

I thought you lived up yer ain erse BH-surely you should know!
mortonjag 2008-03-31 23:48:37
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Mar 31 2008, 10:30 PM) [snapback]428389[/snapback]
The issues of today stem back to our last truly successful team - the Benny Rooney/Andy Ritchie era in the late 70's early 80's. Our board at that time should have taken the decision to go full time and to start the refurb of Cappielow. OK we might have gotten into financial difficulty but we did anyway. At least if we had gone the Motherwell route we would have been an established SPL side with a decent stadium.

The board that really let us down was the one around that time. We had everything we needed to become one of the establishment except a board with any gumption.

Its not easy to see how we can catch up now without a substantial injection of money.

Or a later day Hal Stewart?

mortonjag 2008-03-31 23:51:30
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 31 2008, 10:44 PM) [snapback]428403[/snapback]
Where is you're vote going Doc ?

Same place as it's gone for the last twenty years or so I'd imagine, but I shall wait and see.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 23:53:15
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 31 2008, 11:19 PM) [snapback]428429[/snapback]
He does come across that way....... unsure.gif

FFS Spurtle you have no shame and no secrets.
mortonjag 2008-03-31 23:55:19
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 31 2008, 11:48 PM) [snapback]428441[/snapback]
Move the burger van down here MJ, I'm sure you'll do a roaring trade. biggrin.gif

Lionburgers wouldn't sell in Inverclyde!
mortonjag 2008-03-31 23:57:40
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 31 2008, 11:54 PM) [snapback]428448[/snapback]
So you are a unionist ? laugh.gif

What about the referendum ? How would you vote in that ?

NO-I have deliberately spoiled my paper, as I've lived in either safe Tory or Labour seats! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-03-31 23:59:18
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Mar 31 2008, 11:54 PM) [snapback]428448[/snapback]
So you are a unionist ? laugh.gif

What about the referendum ? How would you vote in that ?

Depends.

Independence under a genuinely representative party-'lib/nat' if you like-YES.

Bawheid's lot are doughballs.
mortonjag 2008-04-01 00:04:46
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Mar 31 2008, 11:59 PM) [snapback]428452[/snapback]
i agree with sramton (campagnolo all the way ya bass, and f*** shimano). mentaljag does have many good points and every now and again puts them across well. it's the volume of sheer pish which is ruining this board for me. i was amazed the other day when someone else outnumbered him for posts. i think that was the first time since he was released back into the community. unlike some other impressionables, whom mj loves to patronise for their youth and naivete, i did not miss him.

cue another post where he selectively quotes "mentaljag does have many good points" +love + shame+ sleepy smilies. predictable and not nearly as smart as he thinks he is. by a long, long way.

Manky's opinion is as ever wide of the mark.

Welcome to April---fool!

Mortonjag is extremely smart-WELL ahead of you and your ilk!

Oh yes-the smilies- smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-01 00:08:14
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 1 2008, 12:06 AM) [snapback]428463[/snapback]
If your not part of the solution your part of the problem wink.gif

One of the biggest myths of all time Spurtle!
mortonjag 2008-04-01 00:10:31
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 1 2008, 12:08 AM) [snapback]428467[/snapback]
haha! i'm on a downslope of the curve and am laughing at that. still think you're an asberger baby, but.

We'd make a lovely couple Narciccus-I have two tickets for the Policeman's Ball if you're interested!
mortonjag 2008-04-01 00:13:56
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 31 2008, 11:59 PM) [snapback]428453[/snapback]
It all depends on the pricing. Monkeyburgers might be a better seller.

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mortonjag 2008-04-01 00:16:32
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 1 2008, 12:14 AM) [snapback]428480[/snapback]
i'm not interested in balls, but you fill yer boots. i'm not judgin.

That'll be a first then!
mortonjag 2008-04-01 00:19:41
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 1 2008, 12:17 AM) [snapback]428488[/snapback]
how dare you. i'm the least judgemental c*** on here.

you're a bawbag by the way.

Scrotum to you sponge.
mortonjag 2008-04-01 00:22:31
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 1 2008, 12:20 AM) [snapback]428493[/snapback]
Watch now, he is very sensitive to homosexual jibes rolleyes.gif

Did you mean Jeeves?
mortonjag 2008-04-01 00:23:40
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 1 2008, 12:21 AM) [snapback]428494[/snapback]
okay.

hurry up edinbaws.

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mortonjag 2008-04-01 00:25:59
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 1 2008, 12:24 AM) [snapback]428500[/snapback]
how dare you. i'm currently wearing nothing at all, bar a pair of three-day old sport socks.

Six bukta bootees and bufty.
mortonjag 2008-04-01 00:27:48
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 1 2008, 12:25 AM) [snapback]428501[/snapback]
aye. you won that one, alright.

Off to bed with the Monkey! He hates you.
mortonjag 2008-04-01 06:45:39
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Mar 31 2008, 11:27 PM) [snapback]428432[/snapback]
Agreed. The improved defence (and its last line) has been the most notable difference. The problem with scoring will remain, I fear, until we sign a real striker.

spoonsy is a striker
mortonjag 2008-04-01 06:47:30
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Mar 31 2008, 11:52 PM) [snapback]428445[/snapback]
If we're going to sign anyone, we'll find out in tomorrow's telegraph. Don't expect the BBC or the official site to have anything up before then.

WE GOT Innes!


































































hee hee.
mortonjag 2008-04-01 06:51:15
QUOTE(Kekkoman @ Apr 1 2008, 03:35 AM) [snapback]428519[/snapback]
I agree here. Mcanespie has not been given a chance. Hopefully hel stay next year and impose himself on this team.

McAnespie has been given a chance IMO, and a chance he's also f*ckin' wasted IMO.
mortonjag 2008-04-01 06:54:30
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Apr 1 2008, 12:28 AM) [snapback]428509[/snapback]
Everyone who wnt to Eton enjoyed the odd prod at the Caramac tunnel.
Argh, that Flake advert with that f***ing annoying Americanised Devonshire bitch was just on. Cow.

You sure keep your options open!
mortonjag 2008-04-01 06:59:04
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 1 2008, 12:29 AM) [snapback]428510[/snapback]
and the ballad of reading hisownpishandlovingit.

Mortonjag has achieved fame without the need for celebrated Fudge Packery.
mortonjag 2008-04-01 07:03:05
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 1 2008, 12:27 AM) [snapback]428506[/snapback]
one pair of specialized socks and otherwise in the buff, matey. your language skills ain't that good.

Fishnet tights by any other name pervo.
mortonjag 2008-04-01 07:08:12
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 1 2008, 01:52 AM) [snapback]428515[/snapback]
I thought he was in Greenock ?

Not Egypt !

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Denial about his sewage canal Newt!


QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 1 2008, 01:59 AM) [snapback]428517[/snapback]
How High is a Chinaman ?

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Five foot flee.
mortonjag 2008-04-01 07:21:01

The Government should cap levels of immigration to Britain, a parliamentary inquiry concluded.

Peers, including two former Chancellors and several other Cabinet ministers, delivered a blow to the Home Office by concluding that record immigration had led to "little or no impact" on economic well-being.

Certain groups in Britain - the low-paid, some ethnic minorities and some young people looking for a foot on the job ladder - may have suffered because of competition from immigrants, the Lords' all-party Economic Affairs Committee said.


Ministers should set an "explicit target range" for immigration and set the rules to keep within that limit, the report said. It raised the prospect of cutting the number of partners and other family members allowed to settle in Britain because a relative is already here.

The peers rejected the Government's claim that immigration is needed to prevent labour shortages as "fundamentally flawed". They also warned that the much-trumpeted new points-based immigration system carried a "clear danger of inconsistencies and overlap".

"We are suggesting that the Government should set a target range for net immigration and then the rules should depend on the target range, rather than the numbers following from the rules as at present," committee member and leading economist Lord Layard said.

"You would have the scope to vary the scale of net immigration by varying the rules, by choosing how tight the rules should be."

Inquiry chairman Lord Wakeham said: "Looking to the future, if you have got that increase in numbers and you haven't got any economic benefit from it, you have got to ask yourself is this a wise thing to do? That is why we want the Government to look at it."

Lord Vallance of Tummel, committee chairman and a former CBI president, said the Government's economic arguments in favour of current immigration levels were "very shaky".

The Government's decision to use GDP as the main measure of immigration's economic contribution was "irrelevant and misleading", added the report. Instead, the yardstick should be income per head of population, or GDP per capita


Interesting, especially as the last paragraph gives the lie to 'the old hat' quoted by our usual laissez faire pro 'dumping' philanthropists.
mortonjag 2008-04-01 08:13:16
QUOTE(piehutt @ Apr 1 2008, 06:47 AM) [snapback]428525[/snapback]
Yes, we are now hard to beat which is key.

Previously we would end up losing a goal and have to chase the game, now we can stay in it and hopefully nick one ourselves.

If we keep it up... we're bound to edge one game, which will just about be enough assuming we get some more draws.

In saying that fancy another draw on Sat.

I fancy a victory Piehole, but it may well end up a draw! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-01 08:14:40
QUOTE(para @ Apr 1 2008, 07:55 AM) [snapback]428532[/snapback]
I understand that following the last post Mortonjag has now left the building and lets hope he doesnt comeback

date 01/04/08

Hello! I'm your new neighbour! laugh.gif tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-01 08:47:32
QUOTE(Greacenonmyass @ Apr 1 2008, 08:18 AM) [snapback]428537[/snapback]
Ignore List

mortonjag rolleyes.gif
newton
midton
princessTon
hardingshamstring

newt, midTONs Princess and the GG are all lovely people.

'Grease up my arse' is putative pond life--erm-no I exaggerate -a wannabe worm.
mortonjag 2008-04-01 08:50:33
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 1 2008, 08:18 AM) [snapback]428536[/snapback]
No - How High is a Chinaman.

So is How High, who's five foot flee.
mortonjag 2008-04-01 08:51:47
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 1 2008, 08:21 AM) [snapback]428538[/snapback]
Why does the animation on tampon television advertising use blue drops ?

Are they for bluebloods ?

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You are colour blind???!
mortonjag 2008-04-01 08:56:14 laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Credit where due-humour (of sorts) is much appreciated in the Dead Sea Scrolls.
mortonjag 2008-04-01 09:27:04
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 1 2008, 08:59 AM) [snapback]428547[/snapback]
Was Roy G Biv colour blind ?

Indeed not Newt though his wife wore black Aussie tampons and a hula hula skirt!
mortonjag 2008-04-01 09:30:02
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 1 2008, 09:01 AM) [snapback]428549[/snapback]
inability to learn from previous unhappy experiences.
Dear Doctor,

is it true that severe cases may last for decades ???

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Indeed Newt, without even a ray of light at the end of the Fort Matilda tunnel..
mortonjag 2008-04-01 09:34:13
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Apr 1 2008, 09:31 AM) [snapback]428556[/snapback]
"I would give my right dick to be normal" blink.gif

Left dicked is abnormal-left dicked condoms are very expensive.
mortonjag 2008-04-01 09:36:15
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 1 2008, 09:07 AM) [snapback]428551[/snapback]
THE Scottish Premier League has called an emergency board meeting for this morning amid genuine fears that Gretna will close down today.

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Despite having made 22 players and several members of the backroom staff redundant last week, the club is continuing to accrue losses, and it is thought that administrator David Elliot of Wilson Field, the Sheffield-based insolvency practitioner, now believes time has run out.

The Scotsman understands he has set a 12pm deadline for the SPL to support an immediate takeover deal with an unnamed interested party, but last night even that last-gasp proposal appeared to be on the brink of collapse.
http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/sport/SPL-...alks.3932587.jp

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mortonjag 2008-04-01 09:38:42 Once upon a time there was a village football team-not a big team, but a happy little team............... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-01 09:40:15
QUOTE(midTONs @ Apr 1 2008, 09:37 AM) [snapback]428563[/snapback]
laugh.gif you have me mixed up with someone else.

Not at all-you ARE a lovely person-vaseline piles is NOT!
mortonjag 2008-04-01 09:41:32
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Apr 1 2008, 09:39 AM) [snapback]428565[/snapback]
if this is an april fool its kinda meen

Especially as it's also the Daily Llama's 98th birthday.
mortonjag 2008-04-01 09:46:55
QUOTE(princessTON @ Apr 1 2008, 09:43 AM) [snapback]428568[/snapback]
Who the f*** are you, to put me on ignore? mad.gif

Careful Princess it'll be taking pictures of you at the Dundee game and posting them here-it is the incarnation of weaselry.
mortonjag 2008-04-01 09:50:07
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Apr 1 2008, 09:02 AM) [snapback]428550[/snapback]
Well, I really am going in for a knee op on Friday and can't do the Tannoy, that much is true.

So ye never know...

My knee is broken
My knee is broken
Sorrow, Sorrow, Sorrow, Sorrow...

If it's under a general anaesthetic, tattoo HERE on the appropriate patella.
mortonjag 2008-04-01 09:51:12
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Apr 1 2008, 08:46 AM) [snapback]428541[/snapback]
It appears i'm quicker than the BBC. rolleyes.gif

Spurtle will be impressed!
mortonjag 2008-04-01 10:15:05
QUOTE(princessTON @ Apr 1 2008, 10:06 AM) [snapback]428582[/snapback]
Your moobs are quite big now you come to mention it. tongue.gif

Udders please!
mortonjag 2008-04-01 10:17:27
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Apr 1 2008, 10:03 AM) [snapback]428578[/snapback]
I've seen it and believe me there's no doubt which knee is to be operated on.

It's the second one on his right leg...

What a wimp-he's taking the day off for treatment of Housemaid's knee! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-01 10:18:51
QUOTE(Edinton @ Apr 1 2008, 10:17 AM) [snapback]428591[/snapback]
Eh? blink.gif

HEE HEE he's seen your truncheon.
mortonjag 2008-04-01 10:19:52
QUOTE(Bunter @ Apr 1 2008, 10:18 AM) [snapback]428592[/snapback]
Awrite Troops, am Bunter, am a reel Greenock Punter.
Cheers troopz!

Sure yer no Billy the real Gourock goat? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-01 10:48:41
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Apr 1 2008, 10:37 AM) [snapback]428601[/snapback]
It's actually for the removal of a ganglian type cyst on the outside of the knee, slightly larger than a golf ball.

Also having an arthroscopy carried out to get to the 'root' of the problem.

I'm thinking of a couple of weeks off work Doc, what d'you reckon??? wink.gif

Ah'm yer man! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-01 10:50:38
QUOTE(Bunter @ Apr 1 2008, 10:21 AM) [snapback]428595[/snapback]
Naw am bunter ya broke fence

OK BIlly-ya fat bassa!
mortonjag 2008-04-01 10:55:11
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Apr 1 2008, 10:47 AM) [snapback]428605[/snapback]
That's great news. What service is being cut to pay for it?

No-you misunderstand-it's a CUNNING ploy. By making free prescriptions look LESS of a 'steal', demand will drop.

Wee Nickerless knows what she's doing! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-01 10:57:55
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Apr 1 2008, 10:49 AM) [snapback]428607[/snapback]

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Bawheid could never pull one like that! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-01 11:02:13
QUOTE(BlueTube @ Apr 1 2008, 10:47 AM) [snapback]428604[/snapback]
How do you put multiple quotes on your post?

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Scan down the thread, clicking 'quote' each time you read something you want to reply to.

Then at the very bottom click on 'add reply'.

All your quotes will be displayed in tabular form.

It's easy-I've been doing it for years!
mortonjag 2008-04-01 12:34:41
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 1 2008, 11:49 AM) [snapback]428639[/snapback]
None that I know of....

I remember the days when Labour were in favour of a free NHS for all. Sadly those days are gone for the self proclaimed socialists.



QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 1 2008, 11:50 AM) [snapback]428640[/snapback]
Another day, another attack on the SNP.

Sadly those days are gone for the deluded young woman who's promised a Scottish health Service which will meet demand, Spurtle.

Spend today!!! wacko.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-01 12:38:18
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 1 2008, 11:03 AM) [snapback]428619[/snapback]
Mr Salmonds head does not resemble a ball at all ! tongue.gif

It most certainly resembles a ball-I wasn't talking about a testicle, which is different.
mortonjag 2008-04-01 12:40:05
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Apr 1 2008, 12:25 PM) [snapback]428645[/snapback]
That's a bit unfair. What about all the weegie and Edinburgh lawyers with second homes in rural areas making the market unaccessable for locals. You can't blame one proportion, probably the smaller proportion, for what is a terrible problem. English rural communities have exactly the same problem.

Fifteen minutes Spurtle-you're losing your touch!
mortonjag 2008-04-01 12:42:42
QUOTE(midTONs @ Apr 1 2008, 11:32 AM) [snapback]428631[/snapback]
The champagne is on Ice, 30 mins and counting. laugh.gif

More ice? blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-01 15:05:32
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 1 2008, 02:31 PM) [snapback]428688[/snapback]
Iwasnt for second suggesting he looked like the last turkey in the shop! His head is not a planatoid nor sphere like ! tongue.gif

It is distinctly ball shaped-don't try to tell me we couldn't have a good kick about with it-I never stated, implied.or suggested that it is a perfect sphere. The original footballs were just pigs' bladders wrapped in cows' hide!

Talking of pigs and cows-where were we-----------oh aye the SNP!
mortonjag 2008-04-01 15:07:46
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Apr 1 2008, 02:50 PM) [snapback]428696[/snapback]
MJ was on my ignore list for a while as was rtb.
I have however grown to love MJ look forward to his daily maniacal rants!

Mr Blue-MJ's psychiatrist! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-01 15:09:57
QUOTE(suda @ Apr 1 2008, 01:33 PM) [snapback]428668[/snapback]
spoonsy can strike a ball but he cant lead the line, can't score with his back to goal and doesn't have the speed to be a goal poacher. How many goals has he scored since moving up front compared to when he was playing further back?

Sponsy was ,is ,and always will be a striker.
mortonjag 2008-04-01 15:12:56
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Apr 1 2008, 03:04 PM) [snapback]428702[/snapback]
That was for the benefit of a certain employee (or ex as the case may be) of the media establishment who once said all my 'sources' where a pile of pish AFTER I had beat his paper to a certain story. rolleyes.gif

I also know what team has been approached to replace them if this goes ahead, but I would have to kill you if i made that information public knowledge. tongue.gif

Silly Billy from the Tilly? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-01 15:16:26
QUOTE(Alibi @ Apr 1 2008, 02:56 PM) [snapback]428699[/snapback]
That's the key question, Mr Blue. In mid-November, Brooks was intending to go ahead with the ecostadium. I know that for a fact because I attended a meeting at Holyrood in connection with the project (not an attempt to get funding from the Government BTW, just to try to get some indirect assistance). Thereafter it went very quiet until the rumours of adminstration started circulating.

I have never heard how Rowan Alexander's tribunal went, but as he is claiming £900,000 I suspect he must have won. My theory is that Mileson doesn't want to fund Gretna because that would mean giving money to Alexander. I don't know why the pair of them fell out, but I have a feeling the rest of us victims of this swindle are just a form of collateral damage.

Hmm-that sort of acrimonious behaviour is reminiscent of a lovers' tiff. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-01 15:22:56
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Apr 1 2008, 03:15 PM) [snapback]428711[/snapback]
I have been outed! unsure.gif

Hey Doc- I've run out of the blue pills-those special ones you get made for me. It's only been two days, but I'm already hearing the voices telling me to make scrambled egg with somebody's brains. It's getting scary and I'm sure they'll be coming to get me soon. Fing is at the ready with the nail gun and Munx is on high alert.

Any advice?
mortonjag 2008-04-01 21:19:15
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Mar 31 2008, 10:26 PM) [snapback]428385[/snapback]
Mr Rae will get a chance to see my millions! especially if the drink is flowing

I'll be celebrating the official opening of one's bathroom!!

Lang may yer bum wink.gif reek!
mortonjag 2008-04-01 21:27:42
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Apr 1 2008, 07:26 PM) [snapback]428812[/snapback]
Dunno Ronnie, might let him bum me for £24m... ohmy.gif laugh.gif

Oh well, if your wee op goes amiss, he'll still know how to handle you.
mortonjag 2008-04-01 21:31:07
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Apr 1 2008, 03:20 PM) [snapback]428717[/snapback]
Mythspelling in this case! laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-04-01 21:36:50
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Apr 1 2008, 03:31 PM) [snapback]428723[/snapback]
Tell them to f*** off, I'm on 2 weeks annual leave wink.gif



OK Doc! Have you packed your Shipman's meat paste sannies?


QUOTE(SramTon @ Apr 1 2008, 08:08 PM) [snapback]428824[/snapback]
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I'd like to be able to say I intentionally tee'd that one up.

But I have to give you full credit instead.

t wasn't THAT funny! dry.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-01 21:41:54
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 1 2008, 09:23 PM) [snapback]428850[/snapback]
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Not even near it mate, not even near it.

Rich-coming from the tax exile with three houses and high heels.
mortonjag 2008-04-01 21:44:11
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Apr 1 2008, 06:39 PM) [snapback]428794[/snapback]
Aye, i'm sure the House of Lords would have had a non-biased view when reviewing immigration policy. blink.gif

Don't be naive-this is the twenty first century-those guys ain't Lord Snooty!
mortonjag 2008-04-01 21:46:33
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 1 2008, 09:16 PM) [snapback]428842[/snapback]
could we not cleanse the indigenous non-professionals while we're at it?

Nothing wrong with cleanliness Trumpet-it's next best to Godliness. sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-01 21:48:07 Welcome back Bawheid-please don't be upset-I've been using your name to describe our First Minister.
mortonjag 2008-04-01 21:49:34
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 1 2008, 09:30 PM) [snapback]428860[/snapback]
Gidday ThornTON,

Where and when did you see Craig play please ?

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mortonjag 2008-04-01 21:52:06
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 1 2008, 09:40 PM) [snapback]428866[/snapback]
ahem, us and alloa rolleyes.gif

Ahem's not a football team Trumpet --it's a turnip.
mortonjag 2008-04-01 22:10:04
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 1 2008, 09:58 PM) [snapback]428881[/snapback]
Independence offers a new beginning, our best chance of rebuilding a worthwhile society that may recover from the devestation left by Blair and Thatcher. Cheer up TAFKAC, we're still a safe distance away from the gate that says 'Abandon all hope, all Ye who enter here'. There's time enough yet to fix things.

'Mon the Lib/Nats!
mortonjag 2008-04-01 22:15:24
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 1 2008, 10:04 PM) [snapback]428887[/snapback]
so, just cleanse the indigenous non-professional religious nutters then?

There's no need to be silly Trumpet-just stem the flow of baggage,and encourage GENUINELY useful immigration.


Religious nutters-tautology. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-01 22:20:29
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 1 2008, 10:18 PM) [snapback]428904[/snapback]
Yes we did and it worked very well IMO.

It was:

Robinson

MacGregor - Greacen - Harding - McLauglin

Finlayson - Millar - Paartalu - McGuffie (apparently) - McAlister

Weatherson

When was McGuffie subbed?
mortonjag 2008-04-01 22:23:39
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 1 2008, 10:17 PM) [snapback]428902[/snapback]
are you sure? tongue.gif

i can remember him starting up front with Weatherson in Iron's first game.

back me up someone, or at least shoot me down in flames laugh.gif

on 1 St Johnstone 2
(H.T. 1 - 2)

MORTON: Robinson, Smith (subbed MacGregor 69 mins), McLaughlin, Harding, Greacen, McGuffie (subbed Stevenson 76 mins), Finlayson, Jenkins, Wetherson (goal 15 mins), Wake (subbed Russell 54 mins), McAlister Subs: MacGregor, Russell, McAnespie, Stevenson, McGurn

ST JOHNSTONE: Main, Irvine, Stanic, McManus, Rutkiewicz (subbed James 67 mins), Craig, Quinn (subbed Moon 85 mins), MacDonald (subbed McBreen 69 mins), Jackson, Milne (goal 29 mins, 39 mins), Sheerin Subs: James, McBreen, Cuthbert, Moon, Weatherston

Referee: John McKendrick

Asst Refs: Iain Craig & John McInally tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-01 22:25:34
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Apr 1 2008, 10:17 PM) [snapback]428901[/snapback]
Na, he's not been good but he's had the occasional half decent game, which is more than he had under McInally, so you couldn't say he's got worse.

I think he just did! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-01 22:27:48
QUOTE(Bawheid @ Apr 1 2008, 10:23 PM) [snapback]428908[/snapback]
Just been busy the past year having moved into a now hoose which required total renovation so just the gergan tae dae then Bobs yer uncle ah'll be back oan regular huh.gif dry.gif mellow.gif blink.gif wink.gif sad.gif ohmy.gif

Is it big?
mortonjag 2008-04-02 06:56:50 Sturgeon: Prescription charges a tax on ill health


Prescription charges were branded a "tax on ill health" by the Health Secretary
yesterday as costs were cut by 25% in the first step towards making them free in Scotland.

The charges, first introduced in 1952, will drop from £6.85 to £5 as part of their phased abolition.

Charges were frozen in Northern Ireland yesterday - but rose to £7.10 in England. Wales axed them last year.

The move in Scotland will also mean that people who suffer chronic or long-term conditions and cancer will receive an immediate cut of more than half in the cost of prescription pre-payment certificates (PPC). The cost goes from £98.70 to £48 for 12 months and from £35.85 to £17 for four months.
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Nicola Sturgeon, joined by Public Health Minister Shona Robison on a trip to a community pharmacy in Glasgow, said: "The National Health Service is based on the principle that health services should be free at the point of use, no matter what the patient's income is. We believe that prescription charges are a tax on ill health and a barrier to good health for too many people."

Estimates suggest nearly two-thirds (63%) of paid-for prescriptions are for cancer and long-term conditions.

"Many people who are not exempt from charges cannot afford the right medication," Ms Robison said.

Shadow Health Secretary Mary Scanlon said that while the Scottish Conservatives had previously supported extending the list of conditions exempt from charges and was "sympathetic" to the PPC cut, there were "many unanswered questions".

"We do have an issue with supporting free prescriptions for people who can afford to pay," she said. "There are many competing priorities for resources in the NHS and we would question the giving of free prescriptions to all."

SSP national convener Colin Fox congratulated the Scottish Government for "making a start on implementing the SSP's policy".

Lorraine Dallas, assistant director of services at Breast Cancer Care Scotland, called the reduction "a step in the right direction", but added: "Patients will still be forced to wait three years before the payment is removed following the SNP's earlier dilution of its promise to immediately abolish charges for people with cancer."

These sentiments were echoed by Eileen Hogg, in remission from breast cancer, who said: "While this is a step in the right direction, I do feel it is a bit of an injustice to people with chronic illness to still currently have to pay for prescriptions."




Another day-another attack on a woman who is rapidly becoming an embarrassment to the SNP.

NO shame, NO morality, NO honesty, NO decency-in short, a politician.


Prescription charges in the main are NOT and never were a tax on ill health. The vast, vast majority of everyday prescriptions are for short term conditions which would have resolved spontaneously in any case.

The really needy have always been treated shabbily in the prescription stakes-those who have chronic and terminal illness will get little comfort from what is just another piece of plastic spin by Bawheid's ugly wee sister.
mortonjag 2008-04-02 07:08:20
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 1 2008, 11:17 PM) [snapback]428928[/snapback]
Mortonjag, please piss off, cobber.

I am asking ThornTON a meaningful question.

Perhaps Stan Webster is a shonk ? ? ?

I respect ThornTON's opinion.

Newt-I'm laughing because he's avoiding the issue. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


'shonk' was not found in the Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary


Stan Webster-the man who coached Scott McDonald a 'SHONK' ---a childlike chancer if my interpretation of Aussie slang is correct?


Then Sir may I give you


SHOOGLESHONK
mortonjag 2008-04-02 07:10:09
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 1 2008, 11:25 PM) [snapback]428930[/snapback]
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don't be daft - that's Alibi looking for Mileson

Has he finally decided on the haircut?
mortonjag 2008-04-02 07:12:17
QUOTE(Tontaster @ Apr 1 2008, 11:41 PM) [snapback]428936[/snapback]
ROBINSON

MCGREGOR GREACEN HARDING
FINLAYSON PAARTALU JENKINS MCALISTER

MILLAR

RUSSELL WEATHERSON

Subs: MCGURN
MCALUGHLIN
MCGUFFIE
WAKE
KEENAN

MORTON 2- 0 DUNDEE

The Defense is playing well So that why i have said they will not score but it will be a big task against Dundee

Hopefully If we get a bit of luck in front of goal or one of the strikers has a good day We can over come the odds and beat the Dundee weavers

COM ON YE TON biggrin.gif

Dundee was also famous for JAM!
mortonjag 2008-04-02 07:14:15
QUOTE(Tontaster @ Apr 1 2008, 11:50 PM) [snapback]428939[/snapback]
Not according to davie irons in the telegraph he says "We have the pace and guile in midfield to create chances. Without any disrespect to the boys up top, we don’t have an out-and-out striker.” unsure.gif

Oh well, if LEAFY'S not 'an out and out striker' it looks like DI is going down the same road as JM! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-02 07:22:29
QUOTE(SPL AND WE @ Apr 2 2008, 01:31 AM) [snapback]428948[/snapback]
i thought ST MIRREN were meant to be relegated while you SOAP DODGERS were going to point and laugh when you passed us on the way by unsure.gif

mmmmmmmmmmmmm .......................... it's not quite worked out that way lads,has it?

Alan Russell to score the winner in the play offs. laugh.gif

There have only ever been eleven teams in the SPL this season-can't see that you lot have much to gloat about-FFS you ARE bloody ambitious- a brand new Lego stadium courtesy of Bendy Wendy benefactress of Skunkdom,--- and it holds less than SCAPA!

Furthermore Gretna are for the offski very soon, and you inbred needle swapping cretins will be propping up the league.

Morton will beat Dundee on Saturday-the turning point is passed. The mighty TON are into top gear and will soon roar past you poor pathetic loser c*nts. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-02 07:29:45
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 2 2008, 02:33 AM) [snapback]428951[/snapback]
Children find severed head on UK beach

Wednesday Apr 2 08:52 AEDT

Two schoolgirls playing on a Scottish beach found a woman's severed head, police said on Tuesday.

The girls found the head wrapped in a plastic bag on a beach outside Arbroath, about 90kms south of Aberdeen. A hand and other body parts were found later.

"They were upset by the discovery and their parents contacted the police," said Detective Chief Inspector Graham McMillan of Tayside Police.

Part of the beach remains cordoned off, as 40 officers comb the area for evidence.

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The headlines never fail to amuse me.

Why is it not

' police hunt woman's severed body'


and for that matter, why is it not just


'a woman's head'.

How-do they know it was 'severed'? There is more than one way of removing a human head.

Smiffy was extremely good at it, if you re-call.
mortonjag 2008-04-02 07:34:24
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 1 2008, 11:40 PM) [snapback]428935[/snapback]
Tautology or oxymoron?

Neither DE-conceptual.

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 1 2008, 11:46 PM) [snapback]428938[/snapback]
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What are you blinking at Spurtle-I'd love an Independent Scotland, run by real people with a liberal and inclusive approach.

That will never happen, but we may hopefully still achieve something light years ahead of the present embarrassment.
mortonjag 2008-04-02 07:44:09
QUOTE(dmc @ Apr 2 2008, 12:01 AM) [snapback]428940[/snapback]
I don't have a car at the minute but the guy next door seems to think it's a green light to park over my drive (usually half way on the pavement)!!

Didn't used to mind but the p***k seems to think it is now his parking space, and tonight is gonna be the final straw as it's bin night and he's done his usual!! (can't get my bin down properly without blocking the pavement, so anyone passing will think it's me blocking everything up)

To cut a long story short, I've put my bin out, rammed his 07 plate motor (as my drive is on a hill, which was kinda slippery tonight wink.gif ) and accidentally slightly scraped up the side a little!!

Am I in the wrong ?? unsure.gif

Yes-unfortunately two wrongs don't make a right dmc.

My ex-wife has MS and has been confined to a wheelchair for many years, but she still has the use of her car and a disabled bay outside her flat.

A few years back she went off on a much needed holiday, and my son was popping in daily to feed the cats, and keep an eye on the place-he often stayed overnight, but the young woman next door had started parking her car in the disabled bay, forcing him to park quite a distance away. He spoke politely to her, I believe, two or three times, and she just laughed at him-'I know your mother's away'-I'm doing nothing wrong'. The Police said they couldn't do anything to help.

One dark morning the young lady came down for work, only to find her lovely little Clio bereft of headlights.

She NEVER parked there again, and no questions were asked. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-02 08:49:38
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 2 2008, 08:12 AM) [snapback]428966[/snapback]
http://www.dbs.id.au/blog/law/shonky.html
Over the years the meaning has widened.

The first edition of the Macquarie Dictionary (1981) defined the adjective “shonky” as something or someone of dubious integrity or honesty.

The Dictionary of Australian Colloquialisms, Wilkes (2nd Edn, 1985), defined the adjective “shonky” as deceptive, unreliable, unsound; it gave as illustrations its use in Australian newspapers in 1978 describing the activities of the disgraced former US President, Richard (“Tricky Dicky”) Nixon, and in 1981 in relation to dealers in real estate.

The Australian National Dictionary, published by the Oxford University Press in 1988, defined the adjective “shonky” as unreliable, unsound, dishonest or out of sorts.

The Macquarie Dictionary of New Words (1990) defined the noun “shonk” as a dishonest person.

The Dinkum Dictionary, Johansen (Revised Edn, 1991), defined the adjective “shonky” as underhand, illegal, illicit, crooked.

The current (2005) edition of the Macquarie Dictionary defines the noun “shonk” as a person of dubious integrity or honesty, a dishonest person.

It is safe, therefore, to assume that the allegation made by Mr McDonald against the plaintiff could well have been understood in 1990 as one of dishonesty. …
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Shoogleshonk seems just about right then!
mortonjag 2008-04-02 08:56:37
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 2 2008, 08:35 AM) [snapback]428967[/snapback]
is that the pilot scheme at terminal 5?

you didn't strike me as particularly religious biggrin.gif

I know EXACTLY what I'd do if I could get off with it, but I wouldn't, and it would just upset people, and I'd be called a racist, and arrogant, and other things offensive to a gentle old soul, so I won't; though I'd still toast all religious fanatics gently over a big barbecue before feeding them to the worlds' starving.



mortonjag 2008-04-02 08:58:42
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 2 2008, 08:40 AM) [snapback]428969[/snapback]
MJ please solve a puzzle for me , you keep referring to Nickerlass sturgeon, is this a fantasy of yours???? tongue.gif

It's actually Nickerless Surgeon-far from being a fantasy, it brings back fond memories of youthful fun!
mortonjag 2008-04-02 09:02:03
QUOTE(midTONs @ Apr 2 2008, 08:54 AM) [snapback]428974[/snapback]
Definitely not, you have been far to patient with him, you should have damaged the car long ago.

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Damian's law!!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-02 09:10:26
QUOTE(midTONs @ Apr 2 2008, 09:08 AM) [snapback]428979[/snapback]
I didn't mention slashing it's tyres or even denting it with his head now did I? tongue.gif

True-

and in my professional experience arsehole neighbours are, by definition, C*NTS.
mortonjag 2008-04-02 10:54:12
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 2 2008, 10:11 AM) [snapback]428993[/snapback]
don't hold back, mortonjag.

thank goodness you went to school there.

Otherwise you may have been rather offensive to our midden mate.

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One cannot offend a skunk-they are beneath offence.
mortonjag 2008-04-02 10:59:53
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Apr 2 2008, 10:19 AM) [snapback]428995[/snapback]
whats the main club names in glasgow?

Queens Park
Rangers
Celtic
Partick Thistle

is there anymore?

not looking for youth or amateur only professional teams.

Hunners of Junior professional teams, starting with Pollok FC in my backyard.
mortonjag 2008-04-02 11:02:12
QUOTE(BlueTube @ Apr 2 2008, 10:27 AM) [snapback]428999[/snapback]
Although they play in Cumbernauld now, Clyde are still considered a Glasgow team. I believe there is still a supporters club in Rutherglen near to the old Shawfield Ground.

Interesting point-although Cumbernauld is actually part of Glasgow anyway-well at least by post code, so Clydebank would still officially have been a Glasgow club were it still alive.
mortonjag 2008-04-02 11:16:48
QUOTE(Alibi @ Apr 2 2008, 09:43 AM) [snapback]428987[/snapback]
It's not a case of "London giving the Scottish Government money". We pay taxes and they hand back some pocket money. They conceal as far as possible the amount of money raised in Scotland from taxes (and I'm not referring solely to the massive revenues from oil) and attempt to give the impression that we are heavily subsidised and that we are too poor/stupid to run our own country.

I have never hears a sensible explanantion as to why if we removed our MPS from Westminster, the economy of Scotland would suddenly collapse. We would continue to work as before, produce as before,and if anything productivity would go up due to the boost in self esteem and the fact that our econimic parameters could be tailored to suit our own needs - interest rates for example which are set to suit SE England, and where we would actually do better under the Eurozone rates let alone setting our own rates.

You don't live here, so maybe you have failed to experience the sea change in attitudes in Scotland - there is without doubt a new self confidence emerging and that is largely, indeed almost solely, due to the election of a government that acts for Scotland and speaks up for Scotland. Many may not like some of the personalities involved, and some may disagree with some of the policies, but I think a huge majority would agree that it's a lot better than what it's been like for the last 50 years and the last 8 in particular.

Possibly-possibly not.


Labour's stranglehold of the Scottish electorate was worrying. I'm glad it's over, but ask myself what kind of mentality allowed it to persist for so long.

As a Nation, we've never found 'Tory' an acceptable vote, yet not ALL conservative policies are bad-nor for that matter are all 'socialist' ideas.

Middle ground-the lib/dems-lots of good ideas-always too wishy washy and HONEST to gain power IMO.

So we've got this lot-Bawheid's Bairns-nappy rash MSPs who are indeed driving by the seat of their pants. Better than the last lot by quite a bit, I'd say, but still 'heady' and unrealistic.

Bawheid is, IMO, a clever politician, but a very poor First Minister.

mortonjag 2008-04-02 11:19:56
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Apr 2 2008, 10:39 AM) [snapback]429005[/snapback]
A mate of a mate does that and reckons he's raking it in. Would this be true or pub bulls***?

It's all about conning old ladies into signing direct debits BH.

I guess if you're a good 'con man' you could do OK!

mortonjag 2008-04-02 11:30:43
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 2 2008, 10:45 AM) [snapback]429007[/snapback]
That's pish MJ. A disabled parking bay is solely for the use of the person with the disability, not for their friends and relatives. Your son had no more right to use the parking bay than your neighbour had (assuming he had no disabilities of course).

Don't try to tell me about rules and regulations from your high chair in Brussels short arse!

Anybody can use a dedicated disabled bay provided he or she is displaying the relevant badge and is 'assisting' the disabled person.

My son only ever used the bay for that explicit reason. My wife left the badge for that explicit purpose.

In any case, that is totally irrelevant to the fact that that young woman's behaviour was provocative, out of order, and dealt with appropriately-just like yours.

Now F*CK OFF! sleep.gif

mortonjag 2008-04-02 11:35:20
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Apr 2 2008, 09:12 AM) [snapback]428981[/snapback]
Was wondering last night while attempting to sleep.

If local fans supported their local team wouldn't scottish football be much more equal? The OF takes alot of fans from their local teams (guilty myself until I went to morton games). The OF have way to much spending power, i.e scott brown 4.5million, Cuellar 2.5-3.0 million. If everyone in Inverclyde that follows football supported Morton then the spending power available to the club would become higher therefore duff signings would be cut out. Would be good for football as a whole in scotland I would say.

Anyone else think this?

Greater Glasgow has a population of one million, and the other cities account for a large proportion of the remaining population.

I understand where you're coming from, but I'd suggest that pro rata it probably evens out.
mortonjag 2008-04-02 11:39:27
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 2 2008, 11:35 AM) [snapback]429023[/snapback]
I hardly think that feeding the cats would reasonably be considered as 'assisting' a disabled person. laugh.gif

The fact is your son was just as wrong as your neighbour was in using the disabled parking bay.

So you're wrong and I'm right - live with it. tongue.gif

If the cats had died, she would have perished of grief. Stuck in the house alone for most of the time with hugely restricted mobility, they are an enormous comfort to her.

The fact is that your are a provocative and evil dwarf with a grudge against normal disabled people and domestic animals.
mortonjag 2008-04-02 11:41:56
QUOTE(forza ton @ Apr 2 2008, 11:39 AM) [snapback]429028[/snapback]
greater glasgow has a population of 1,750,500

wrong again mortonjag cool.gif

When did you finish counting.

Seriously-where are your sources-are you telling me that I was once responsible for nearly a million patients at one time? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-02 11:46:36
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 2 2008, 11:31 AM) [snapback]429022[/snapback]
Not true. In the 1950s the Tories were the most popular party in Scotland in terms of votes cast in General Elections.

I'm talking from experience and study of our culture Grumpy-those figures prove nothing.
mortonjag 2008-04-02 13:50:10
QUOTE(johnston @ Apr 2 2008, 12:00 PM) [snapback]429037[/snapback]
Above should read 'I have been responsible for trying the patience of about one million people over my lifetime'. rolleyes.gif



QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Apr 2 2008, 12:32 PM) [snapback]429044[/snapback]
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QUOTE(Tooth & Nail @ Apr 2 2008, 12:35 PM) [snapback]429045[/snapback]
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I am deeply hurt.
mortonjag 2008-04-02 13:56:25
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 2 2008, 11:53 AM) [snapback]429034[/snapback]
There figures prove that in the 1950s Scots did find voting Tory 'acceptable', which in turn proves that you were talking pish. Again.

Listen Dopey, you were NOT even alive in the 1950's. I WAS.

The Tories were a greater power in Scotland then, than now, but they NEVER EVER had anything like the majority of the popular vote. With PR, even in the 50's they'd have been f*cked.

Now any more of your impertinence and you'll be getting a buckshee PR.
mortonjag 2008-04-02 13:57:51
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 1 2008, 10:12 PM) [snapback]428897[/snapback]
Newton's threads often get ignored.

Newton is misunderstood.
mortonjag 2008-04-02 14:02:23
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Apr 2 2008, 01:15 PM) [snapback]429063[/snapback]
Post at haste........ repent at leisure.

He only said 'it seems'.

Mind you Ratarse often makes silly assumptions.
mortonjag 2008-04-02 14:06:15
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 2 2008, 11:51 AM) [snapback]429033[/snapback]
Quite the opposite MJ, I have a grudge against people like your son who abuse the disabled badge system put in place to help disabled people.

Are you saying that if he hadn't been able to use his mother's disabled parking bay he wouldn't even have bothered to find a legal parking space and walk, thereby resulting in the starvation of his mother's much loved cats. ohmy.gif

What sort of heartless monster have you brought into this world MJ?

Ok-I give in.

BTW my son's on his way over to Brussels as I type. Can't be many dwarves there with ginger minges and a Scottish accent. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-02 14:09:48
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Apr 2 2008, 01:25 PM) [snapback]429066[/snapback]
The disabled person actually has to be in the car for the badge to be legally used. If not all hell would break lose with any bugger who got their hands on a badge someway or another proclaiming to be some sort of saint of the infirm.

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We're talking about PARKING.
mortonjag 2008-04-02 14:10:50
QUOTE(Yoda @ Apr 2 2008, 12:30 PM) [snapback]429043[/snapback]
Tanning headlights, starving cats, parking in disabled bays and views from high chairs aside laugh.gif , - it's never great to fall out with neighbours. You do have to pass them, live beside them and generally get on.

Speak to the guy first, explain that you've had relatives visit with vehicles and they couldn't get access to your drive to park, though you don't have a car you would still like to gain access to it if you needed to and would hate to see his car perhaps get damaged should someone attempt to pass the space he's left.

Failing that let two of his tyres down, one on the off side one on the near side, one front one back. He'll only notice one to start off with, change that, try to drive off, realise he's got another flat ---- great entertainment, you can watch them for hours.............. just don't let him see you laugh! ph34r.gif

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mortonjag 2008-04-02 14:12:20
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Apr 2 2008, 12:25 PM) [snapback]429041[/snapback]
Using the same criteria, so would Dumbarton I think.

Nope-Dumbarton's just outside-I think the boundary's around Dumbuck.
mortonjag 2008-04-02 14:12:58
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Apr 2 2008, 12:47 PM) [snapback]429049[/snapback]
And St.Mirren.
Well Paisley is just another suburb of Glasgow as far as i'm concerned. rolleyes.gif

IS IT f***! mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-02 14:17:53
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Apr 2 2008, 01:27 PM) [snapback]429067[/snapback]
Aye, very good.
Irons is right, no way can Russell be described as an out-and-out striker when he has no grasp whatsoever of the offisde rule, and never actually runs towards goal when he gets the ball, instead preferring to f*** about out at the corner flag instead.

You are wrong, and Irons is wrong.

I have just DONE IT!


.......and he IS! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-02 14:27:06
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Apr 2 2008, 02:14 PM) [snapback]429085[/snapback]
I wish I had noticed rolleyes.gif
I repeat, the badge is for the direct use of the person whose name and picture is on it, not just for anyone to use cause they can't be arsed walking down the street to their maws house.

No you did NOT repeat.

How the f*ck can a severely disabled non driver be picked up at home if somebody else can't use their disabled bay?


PLEASE READ THIS LEAFLET CAREFULLY

If you have a Blue Badge but do not have a car, other people may use their own cars to drive you around. Please ask them to read this leaflet too. They also need to know their rights and responsibilities with the Blue Badge.

Remember that if you are a disabled driver and your disability is such that it is likely or may become likely to affect your ability to drive (even if your car is adapted) the law requires you to inform the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency, Swansea SA99 1TU.
mortonjag 2008-04-02 15:42:39
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Apr 2 2008, 02:56 PM) [snapback]429091[/snapback]
I was just listing the teams that actually in Glasgow, otherwise I would have added the likes of Kirkintilloch RR, Kilsyth, Clydebank, Yoker, EK Thistle etc
Going by postcode, Greenock and Oban are in Paisley...

GREATER Paisley!
mortonjag 2008-04-02 15:52:20
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Apr 2 2008, 02:45 PM) [snapback]429089[/snapback]
Bright letters do not make your right.
If the disabled person is on holiday, the car is not being used to drive them around. Unless of course, it is a helipad, in which case I do apologise.

Whether or not the non-driving disabled person is on holiday- a non disabled person is permitted to park in the disabled bay for the purpose of assisting the disabled person. If the badge is legitimately displayed, it is not for third parties to legislate. A disabled bay is for a vehicle-not a person, and the use of the bay is at the discretion of the disabled person who alone is best able to know his or her needs.
mortonjag 2008-04-02 15:56:18
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Apr 2 2008, 03:48 PM) [snapback]429102[/snapback]
Afraid not son. Dumbarton's postcode is G82.

Who's daft idea was it to onclude postcodes anyway?

The teams are Rangers, Celtic, Partick, Queens Park (although amateur) and perhaps Clyde.

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Well I never-it isn't in Greater Glasgow Health Board District mind!
mortonjag 2008-04-02 16:10:31
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Apr 2 2008, 03:59 PM) [snapback]429107[/snapback]
I know Greater Glasgow health board was expanded after the debt run up by Argyll & Clyde to now include Inverclyde. The A&E hospital for Dumbarton is Paisley therefore I assumed Dumbarton was now part of Greater Glasgow too.

I'm not up to date-Health Boards clearly don't coincide accurately with post codes. When I was deputising for Greater Glasgow we covered Clydebank HC, but not Dumbarton, who of course had an up and running 'Vale of Leven' Hospital.

The catchment areas of GP's are defined and the furthest we went was the Dumbuck area. I seem to remember there was some Dog and Cat home at the actual boundary, but I never was called out to that!
mortonjag 2008-04-02 17:57:23
QUOTE(Alibi @ Apr 2 2008, 04:11 PM) [snapback]429112[/snapback]
I beg to differ. Clearly you just don't like Nicola Sturgeon, or Alex Salmond for that matter, and that's your prerogative, and indeed the apparent point of your posting. What is it you want the government to do? Do you consider that everyone should pay the full cost of their treatment (i.e. abolish the NHS), or perhaps you consider that there should be an income level above which charges cut in, or maybe you want the charges abolished - what is your point here? Is it not the case that a full abolition by the SNP would have met with your criticism, and a partial one ditto, and no reduction ditto? You just want to criticise Nicola Sturgeon basically.

It seems to me that as we have an NHS, it should be available on a needs basis and it might as well be either free (or arguably at nominal cost if you want to discourage spurious use). People don't choose to become ill, so why should they pay taxes to run the NHS and then pay another tax to make use of it?

Maybe the Scottish Government hasn't been able to abolish prescription charges in one go, but ask yourself why that is - the opposition parties diverted £500 million form their funds to pay for a vanity tram project, whereas that money coud have been put to better use. The SNP manifesto was based on getting an overall majority, so obviously it's not possible to implement it all in one go unless the other parties agree. The people you quote may be disappointed that the government hasn't abolished the charges entirely, but they would be a lot more disappointed if they had left them the same as they are in England.

Of course prescription charges are a tax on ill health - you don't pay them if you aren't ill. Yes, prescriptions shouldn't be handed out for minor trivia that are self-curing, but assuming the illnesses are genuine, the charges are indubitably a tax on illness, just as VAT is a tax on things you buy.


And that is YOUR prerogative Alibi, just as I may pontificate till the cows come home about your profession, without having a real clue about 'behind the scenes'.

The fact is that I am not the only person mentioning the anomalies in this latest piece of nonsense-AS I HIGHLIGHTED.

I don't know Sturgeon-I don't dislike people whom I don't know, but I DESPISE the way she's using the NHS as a popularity grabbing chattel.

She stated from the word go that her NHS 'would meet demand without further involvement of the Private Sector'. That claim is ludicrous beyond belief. Far from me disliking Sturgeon, or Salmond, I can state unequivocally, that unlike you, I have NO political axe to grind. I call it as I see it, and I KNOW the NHS.

Simple.


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MJ ...you earn enough from the sick as it is.

Large salary ,and the ability to self prescribe...

Have you ever paid for a prescription?



What are you talking about? I've been retired for some time. I neither have a big salary, nor any advantage over others should I need a prescription.

QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Apr 2 2008, 04:27 PM) [snapback]429123[/snapback]
hmmmm...

Not in my personal experience MJ, i have to get repeat prescriptions for life as im sure many do. In fact the majority of prescriptions that people i know who get them are repeat and they certainly aint cheap (unless you tick the wrong box!)...

when you have to go pick up 4 items at a time it can be a costly business.

like some one (maybe yourself?) said the other day, where would the money be taken from.. take it from the doctors salaries who are over paid moaning greeting face buggers. or just a fraction of this ongoing hunt the terrorist campaign thats going on round the world, or the so called war on drugs, or fecking level the tax system out to one that is based on income.. plenty of ways round it.

Prescriptions should be free.. theres no reason not to make them so.


People who require treatment for chronic and terminal illness suffer under the present system. That is what I said.


QUOTE(franco @ Apr 2 2008, 04:43 PM) [snapback]429133[/snapback]
Who does the prescribing?

People go to GP's with trivial symptoms and GP's prescribe them with drugs you say they don't really need, if i interpret your statement correctly. Seems easy to 'cure' the problem here.

I said, correctly, that the vast majority of prescriptions are for self limiting conditions. In the pre NHS days, when folk had to pay for treatment, they were generally stoical and had an emporium of home remedies. Please don't make me laugh by suggesting that overworked doctors should be attempting to curb demand at the very time when our Health Minister is telling folk they'll get exactly what they want.
mortonjag 2008-04-02 18:03:59
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 2 2008, 05:11 PM) [snapback]429142[/snapback]
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MJ, ya daft old fool.

http://www.alba.org.uk/timeline/1945to1967.html

Scottish results from the 1955 General election: -

MPs elected in Scotland: Conservative 36, Labour 34, Liberals 1. % of vote: Conservatives and allies 50.1 %, Labour 46.7 %, Liberals 1.9 %, Communists 0.5 %, SNP 0.5 %, other 0.3 %.

It's getting boring proving you wrong all the time.

It's getting boring listening to you twisting and turning and NEVER listening to what I say.

Those results had no bearing on proportional representation. Scotland's Tory voters have NEVER exceeded labour voters in numbers-plain and simple.
mortonjag 2008-04-02 18:05:37
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 2 2008, 05:15 PM) [snapback]429144[/snapback]
for the purpose of assisting the disabled person.

... including cat feeding.

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Indeed.
mortonjag 2008-04-02 18:07:00
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Apr 2 2008, 04:39 PM) [snapback]429130[/snapback]
He's not an out and out striker; he's a centre forward, but more of a provider than a goalscorer.

Your opinion or that of the Brechin fans?
mortonjag 2008-04-03 06:36:04
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 2 2008, 08:08 PM) [snapback]429190[/snapback]
We basically have two options here. (A) You either charge for prescriptions or (B)you get them for free.

What is you're preferred choice Doc ? No bulls*** just A or B ?

You really are adorably simplistic at times Spurtle. Well-here's the story, with NO bullsh*t.

At present (highlighted by WDE), SOME prescriptions are already free while others are not. The system is riddled with anomalies and grossly abused by fraudulent exemption claims. I would be in favour of TOTALLY scrapping prescription charges, provided the public were asked to understand that the lost revenue was being generated by cuts elsewhere in the NHS. Nickerless has NOT done that. She has pandered to the vast majority who need prescriptions on a 'one off basis', while ignoring those with chronic and terminal illness. She has blatantly lied about treatment of cancer patients in the process.

QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Apr 2 2008, 08:19 PM) [snapback]429194[/snapback]
I went to the chemist with a prescription the quack gave to my recently arrived in the UK fiancee yesterday. I fully expected to pay for it as she is subject to immigration control. I was delighted when the pharmacist said ''is it for your wife'' ? I said yes and was delighted to be told there was no charge.

Afer they made up the prescription and gave a us a shout I asked them what box the doctor ticked to enable us to get free prescriptions so I could tick it next time too. The pharmacist pointed out that she would indeed need to pay for future prescriptions but would always be prescribed this particular product for free. That had me well confused. It wasn't who she was that she got yesterday's prescription for nothing, it was what it was.


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QUOTE(leyTON @ Apr 2 2008, 10:14 PM) [snapback]429265[/snapback]
you do a lot of maning mj, which is fine
can i ask which party you vote for, if it isnt too personal?


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I'd prefer to describe it as 'warning' leyTON. I thought you were an avid reader of my daily pearls of wisdom. I've stated repeatedly that I am beholden to no political party-indeed that I despise politics with a passion.

I think I've voted in about four general elections in my life, and NEVER for Labour or Tory. I voted SNP in the early seventies, because I believed the candidate could beat Labour, and indeed George Leslie was successful. Other than that I've voted for people and not parties.
mortonjag 2008-04-03 06:40:03
QUOTE(marxist_ton @ Apr 2 2008, 08:59 PM) [snapback]429217[/snapback]
I agree with his political views, but also met him many times and he is a really nice bloke. He was also my tutor for Sociology this year and didn't miss one class despite all this going on.

And surely, if he won the case....shouldn't those who gave evidence against him be the ones being investigated
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mortonjag 2008-04-03 06:43:18
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Apr 2 2008, 08:18 PM) [snapback]429193[/snapback]
No I'm not. They were foolish, there is a definite line between wickedness and foolishness.



QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Apr 2 2008, 09:54 PM) [snapback]429251[/snapback]
Words DE, words. Negligence is a foolishness.

They did pay, and so I fear did their wee lassie. sad.gif

I fear that their life is fooked.

Is this case not still 'sub judice' gentlemen?
mortonjag 2008-04-03 06:52:35
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 2 2008, 06:26 PM) [snapback]429161[/snapback]
Can you not read auld yin, the number of Tory voters exceeded the number of Labour voters in Scotland in the 1955 General Election, and also had the majority of the popular vote (50.1%).

You're wrong, plain and simple, ya daft auld fanny.
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Grow up Rumpelstiltskin and stop spinning on your thimbledick.

Of course I can READ-it's just that unlike you I don't read in isolation, never take anything at face value, and do some research before 'spouting'.

50.1% voted for the Tories AND ALLIES. Labour-on its own got almost 50%. It's well know that there was a huge tactical vote that election year. The Liberal turnout was consequently diminutive.

Scotland has never had a majority of its voting population who were committed Tories.
mortonjag 2008-04-03 06:56:26
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 2 2008, 10:05 PM) [snapback]429256[/snapback]
i remember asking on here years ago for someone to explain to me a physics problem and i had an answer within 2 hours.

there are intelligent people about, they just don't post very often.

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mortonjag 2008-04-03 07:02:28
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Apr 2 2008, 06:22 PM) [snapback]429159[/snapback]
How many hereditary peers remain in Lords?
If you seriously think the House of Lords is anything other than right of centre then you ought to be sectioned.



QUOTE(leyTON @ Apr 2 2008, 11:24 PM) [snapback]429300[/snapback]
i dont not to trust peers, and i fully intend to scrap the ridiculous second house when im elected el presidente!





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Guide to peers and House of Lords
House of Lords

The government is unveiling its plans to reform the House of Lords, with MPs to vote on how many members should be elected and how many appointed. But what is the current situation?

There are 732 peers who have the right to sit in the House of Lords and take part in debates and votes. Of those, about 600 have been appointed for life.

Most hereditary peers - people who inherited their title - were removed from the House of Lords in 1999 in the first stage of reforms. However, 92 hereditary peers were allowed to keep their seats.

The many other hereditary peers are still Lords but are no longer allowed to sit in the House of Lords. (The House of Lords is the upper house of the UK's Parliament. Its role is to scrutinise, revise and, if necessary, delay laws proposed by MPs.)

Up to 12 law lords also sit in the Lords - their main work lies not in debates but judging cases in the highest appeal court in the UK.

There are also 26 Church of England archbishops and bishops who can speak and vote in the Lords.


PEERS IN THE HOUSE OF LORDS
1. Labour: 207 life peers, 4 hereditary peers
2. Conservative: 157 life peers, 47 hereditary peers
3. Lib Dems: 72 life peers, 5 hereditary peers
4. Cross-bench: 169 life peers, 33 hereditary peers
5. Church of England: 26 archbishops and bishops
6. Law Lords: 12
7. Other: 10 life peers, 2 hereditary peers
14 peers are on a leave of absence. A by-election is in hand to add a 92nd hereditary peer.

Life peers are appointed in a variety of ways.

Up until 2000, life peerages were handed out as part of the Queen's New Year's and Birthday Honours.

The creation of the House of Lords Appointments Commission means this now generally happens at other times of the year.

There are two sorts of life peers. The first are non-party political peers who are recommended by the House of Lords Appointments Commission.

They are people "with a record of significant achievement within their chosen way of life that demonstrates a range of experience, skills and competencies... who are able to make an effective and significant contribution to the work of the House of Lords".

The second category are party political peers (often known as working peers). Party leaders are able to nominate a certain number of people each year to join their benches in the Lords.

The actual number of people nominated, and the number per party is decided by the prime minister. The prime minister also decides when new peers are nominated.

The appointments commission vets these candidates for propriety, but not for their general suitability. It can voice concerns to the prime minister, who has the final say on whether they should be ennobled by the Queen.

In contrast to the past - especially the days when the Lords were dominated by hereditary peers - Labour is now the biggest party in the Lords, with 211 peers, but it can suffer defeats if opposition and crossbench peers unite against the government.

The Conservatives have 204 peers and the Lib Dems 77.

There is no limit to the number of peers who can be members of the House of Lords.

In 2003 the government proposed stripping the prime minister of the powers to decide how many peers are created, but the package was put on hold amid opposition to the idea of an all-appointed House of Lords.

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mortonjag 2008-04-03 07:06:32
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 2 2008, 06:30 PM) [snapback]429163[/snapback]
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There's no reasoning with the daft auld fanny. rolleyes.gif

His son is an able-bodied abuser of the Disabled parking badge and that makes him lower than a snake's baws.

My posts always go right over your head.
mortonjag 2008-04-03 07:09:01
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 3 2008, 12:33 AM) [snapback]429306[/snapback]
Jobs a good yin DMC . A few more scraps and he'll get the message . Had the same problem only we could never get out when the wee fella was in his pram . The way I look at it if they don't show any consideration for your access why should you show any for their property.

Emasculation of rapists-a variation of Damian's law and highly effective.

Nothing wrong with natural justice-eh?
mortonjag 2008-04-03 07:11:46
QUOTE(cappielow-doc @ Apr 2 2008, 10:55 PM) [snapback]429289[/snapback]
MJ,I used to think you were alright but ive come to the conclusion,(long after everyone else on this board)that you are indeed a FUD

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Listen to me child-my partner is an executive at Scottish Power. Why does telling the truth make me a 'fud'?
mortonjag 2008-04-03 07:19:36
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 2 2008, 10:16 PM) [snapback]429267[/snapback]
i'd love to know why those ridiculous rows of red bricks were embedded in every fecking road in glasgow over the course of a single night. too wee to make any difference at all to someone in a car but high enough to f*** my bike right up.

b*****ds! i forgot to phone the council today but i will tomorrow. maybe i'll even try a different councillor, see if i have one who actually replies to constituents.

Must have cost an absolute fortune-total waste of money IMO-as you say they're a pest to cyclists, and when motorists feel that wee tiny bump they put the foot down to check if anything's come loose under the car.
mortonjag 2008-04-03 07:29:41 Brian Winter

Date of Birth: 21 January 1968

Height: 5' 10"

Weight: 90 Kg / 14st 2lb

Profession: Firefighter

First ever match: East Stirling v Stiriling Albion – 1997 (Senior)
Eastfield UTD v Brass Button – 1993 – Lanarkshire Amatuer

First international match: Fourth Official – Georgia v Greece U21 - 2005

Career highlights Refereeing 3rd Round Scottish Cup – Arbroath v Aberdeen ( The first opportunity to officiate a Premier side in major competition). My first Premier League appointment 2004/05 (Livingston v Dunfermline). Being Fourth Official (Georgia v Greece U21)

What does being a football referee mean to you? It is very satisfying knowing you are contributing something toward the game we love.

Why did you become a referee? I was asked to attend the classes by a friend, and I thought this would be different!!

Would you have wished to become a full-time referee? No not really, I enjoy my full time job too much!!

Any pet hates in football? Blatant Cheating

What Law of the Game would you change? Law 12
When a Penalty is awarded for a foul inside the Penalty Area where a Direct Scoring Opportunity is prevented, I would scrap the “Red Card”

The most difficult Law to apply? Law 12 – Fouls & Misconduct, the consistency of it. It is the most breeched Law in the game – obviously!

Your best memory in football? Kick Off at my first Premier Match (Livingston v Dunfermline – 2005)

Other sports or hobbies? Cycling, Walking and anything the kids decide.

Your main strength? I would like to think I show calm under pressure.

And main weaknesses? Where do I start. I can sometimes be too judgemental, my administration on the field is in a language only I can understand and I give in to my kids demands too easily – there 3.

What's in your car CD player? 1980’s Re-Mix, Elvis Pressely (Fathers Day Present!!!!)

Beer or wine? Beer - unfortunately

Favourite film? The Wizard of Oz - (The witch still scares me)

Tastiest food? Mexican

Favourite holiday destination? Ibiza

Luck or judgement? Judgement - 100% then you need luck

Dress up or dress down? Down please

Whom would you most like to meet? Hugh Dallas' Bank Manager

Ambitions? To be healthy and happy - No fuss !

Any advice for young referees? Work hard! Listen hard ! and Never say Never
mortonjag 2008-04-03 07:33:44
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 3 2008, 04:32 AM) [snapback]429311[/snapback]
Has ThornTON taken vows of silence ?

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I doubt it Newt. I find folk often disappear when asked pointed questions! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-03 09:27:33
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Apr 3 2008, 09:02 AM) [snapback]429332[/snapback]
We are now going into every game looking to get something from it as a realistic expectation. I quite fancy us to take something from all four remaining games - maybe three draws and a win or two wins two draws.

6 Points might not be enough given Clyde have Stirling on the last day. 8 Points would be I'm sure.

We're going to beat Dundee on Saturday.
mortonjag 2008-04-03 09:53:17
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 3 2008, 09:36 AM) [snapback]429338[/snapback]
Is he a man or a mouse ?

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Yes but not simultaneously.
mortonjag 2008-04-03 09:57:53
QUOTE(Alibi @ Apr 3 2008, 09:33 AM) [snapback]429337[/snapback]
MJ, I think the "allies" referred to were the Unionist Party - I think there was a separate unionist party at that time but it was basically the case that they were Tories standing under a different name. I think I am correct in saying that there weren't Tory and Unionist candidates both standing in any constituency. In effect therefore the Tories did have 50.1% of the vote. Don't ask me why!!

I well remember the Unionist Party-aye. The point I'm making is that the demography of Scotland allied to its industrial history has always dictated a majority Labour vote. In that particular election there was a large 'tactical' vote for Tory/Unionist by non Labour folk who wanted Labour out.

We've NEVER had a majority of 'died in the wool' Tories in the Scottish electorate.
mortonjag 2008-04-03 10:50:06
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Apr 3 2008, 07:44 AM) [snapback]429324[/snapback]
I'm not sure it can be that until charges are laid. But if you mean are the McCanns still suspects and are the Portuguese police in the UK this week reinterviewing the dinner guests, then yes.

Stepfather of Shannon has now been charged wth holding 10 indecent images of kids.

And people wonder why I need cheering up.

Maybe with the amount of luck the Huns have had recently, they'll find Maddie when they're over there.
mortonjag 2008-04-03 12:14:05
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 3 2008, 11:29 AM) [snapback]429358[/snapback]
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Ach I suppose you've got to admire a man who never knows when he well and truly beaten. laugh.gif

The reasons for 50.1% of the Scottish electorate voting Tory in the 1955 General Election are completely irrelevant. The very fact that they did proves that your original statement which was "as a Nation, we've never found 'Tory' an acceptable vote" is patently pish, as in 1955 we obviously did find it acceptable to vote Tory.

Just admit you talk s***e and we'll say no more on the subject.

BTW - The veracity of a statment is not proportional to the amount of personal insults contained within it. tongue.gif

Then stop making them.

..........and stop being a provocative clown-it was an anti Labour non Tory tactical vote which LOST Labour that election by the slimmest of margins.

As I have now stated several times, the electorate of Scotland has NEVER had a clear majority of TORY voters, and despite all your wriggling, and twisting, and playing with semantics, Hercules, facts are chiels that winna ding! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-03 12:29:39
QUOTE(Alibi @ Apr 3 2008, 12:00 PM) [snapback]429366[/snapback]
Ah, I think I see your point MJ - and I'd agree that the chronic prescription thing needs to be sorted, but that will happen when there is enough money if the opposition don't hijack the funds for some other matter like a constitutional commi... sorry, review.

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Everybody's a self appointed specialist on the NHS Alibi, but limited resources will never meet unfettered demand. That is the problem we've had increasingly since 1948, and it's always been the majority-the working well if you like- who have been pandered to when various governments have needed some spin on the NHS.

There's a hell of a difference between need and demand, and it seems to me that Ms Sturgeon has neglected the former in favour of popular measures-most of which she has instituted against the advice of the relevant professions.

That is in essence my biggest gripe.

If you believe that chronic and terminal illness should play second fiddle, for example, to scripts for buckshee contraceptive pills picked up from the GPs offfice after the normal working day is over, there's little I can do do persuade you otherwise.
mortonjag 2008-04-03 12:31:12
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Apr 3 2008, 12:23 PM) [snapback]429371[/snapback]
thats it, you sold me.

i'm switching back to eON

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I DIDN'T say shareholder! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-03 13:40:19
QUOTE(Alibi @ Apr 3 2008, 12:53 PM) [snapback]429378[/snapback]
Personally I would have a nominal fee - say �1 - that wouldn't be a huge burden but would be just enough to stop the increased demand that may well occur from totally free prescriptions; GPs should just say no when asked for prescriptions that aren't necessary but my father, who was a GP in Greenock for many years, always used to say that he didn't have enough time to argue with everyone who claimed to have a sore back and so often prescriptions were written for people who didn't need them. However I think it is quite wrong to have peole paying huge sums, especialy when they have three or four items to get and there is a full charge for each of them.

There is of course the season ticket, which is also being reduced in price a lot (50% reduction?). At the new price, it will make sense for a lot of people just to get one of those until such time as the charges are totally abolished.

I essence, if people didn't demand a prescription when there was no real need for it, the system would be fine, but there has to be a disincentive to discourage frivolous use of the NHS without penalising the genuinely sick.

Spot on, and therein lies the problem-introducing disincentives does not win votes!
mortonjag 2008-04-03 13:47:27
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 3 2008, 01:29 PM) [snapback]429393[/snapback]
It seems that only in that muddled auld heid of yours does 50.1% not consitute a majority. laugh.gif

Give in MJ, you're only succeeding in making yourself look more and more stupid by the minute. rolleyes.gif

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Never heard of 'floating voters', and tactical voting pimpleknob?

Scotland has NEVER been a 'TORY' country in terms of genuine electoral allegiance.

mortonjag 2008-04-03 13:49:40
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 3 2008, 01:47 PM) [snapback]429398[/snapback]
I thought the whole public sector had been moving away from cash accounting. Not the case or is it just a slow process?

The public sector is indeed a VERY slow process.
mortonjag 2008-04-03 13:50:59
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 3 2008, 01:48 PM) [snapback]429399[/snapback]
If he is transgender then surely it used to be a girl and therefore this is no real big shock?!

Men can't have babies.
mortonjag 2008-04-03 15:13:05
QUOTE(Yoda @ Apr 3 2008, 01:57 PM) [snapback]429402[/snapback]
One thing I have always wondered is how the filling of prescriptions is audited.

By that I mean - wee joe doesn't feel well, his doc writes a script for penicillin, wee joe feels better and doesn't go to the chemist to get it filled. Then he starts to feel worse again and goes back to the doctor - another prescription this time he goes to get it.

Surely that is a waste of resources. Two visits when one would have done. How does this affect the practice budget? Is there a limit of what can be written up, is the practice only charged for what is filled? How is it tracked? Is it tracked?

There are bound to be folk out there claiming sore back syndrom, getting prescriptions and never filling them. Would this help weed out people who are claiming benefits, who could clearly go back to work?

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A GP can write a hundred scripts Yoda, and if they are not dispensed, they simply cease to exist.

The Prescription Pricing Bureau keeps a careful track of all GP prescribing and if GPs are going into overspend they receive a warning. Further overspend results in deduction from salary.

For many years now, GPs have been forced to use 'generic' prescribing to save money. For a majority of drugs this makes sense, but debate still rages about the treatment of certain conditions where quality control must meet fine tolerances not always found in 'generics'.

It's far from a case of doctors just 'dishing out prescriptions on demand', and the Profession tries to act responsibly, but as Alibi has pointed out, there are many situations where it's best not to argue. Don't forget-patients can still vote with their feet, and GPs income is ultimately dependent on list size!

mortonjag 2008-04-03 15:15:49
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 3 2008, 02:18 PM) [snapback]429406[/snapback]
Whit?! They can't?!?!?! ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

Up until now, but I'm just waiting for an update from Brussels. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-03 15:21:19
QUOTE(Alibi @ Apr 3 2008, 02:54 PM) [snapback]429415[/snapback]
I'd tend to agree with that MJ, but given that election result, it would seem to suggest that it was, albeit only for a short time, a Tory country. It's a bit like saying "Scotland always votes Labour". Not any more it doesn't....

The huge leaps in technology in two generations have f*cked the working class. A classless society now has finally come to its senses in Scotland. SNP---much better than neo Tory 'lefties'. I just hope the Honeymoon period ends soon. I'm sure that when they come down off cloud nine, they'll start paying more attention to advisers. We can't afford to go backwards.
mortonjag 2008-04-03 15:26:25
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Apr 3 2008, 03:05 PM) [snapback]429416[/snapback]
I hope it wasn't David or Dean would not be happy wink.gif

MJ ask your secreatary if you would like to meet up in the near future ph34r.gif

HT-you have me baffled-David-that could make sense

Dean---Keenan???


The Monkey is my secretary. Please pm him if you wish! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-03 15:34:23
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Apr 3 2008, 02:50 PM) [snapback]429412[/snapback]
As bad as McInally was, I don't think anyone realised the full extent of his incompetence until we seen what happens when we have a manager who is even half-decent. I always believed that we had decent enough players to do ok in this league and we're starting to see that, and I'm quietly confident about our chances next season, presuming we stay up smile.gif

JM was a total rookie, and struggled under the large influence of Rae. I believe it's STILL impossible to say that he will never have some success.

Just because we've done a little better doesn't make the new team accomplished.

One step at a time. They must first keep us up-which I believe they will.

After that, a HUGE amount will depend on Douglas Rae. I don't believe he quite saw this coming when he thought he could penny pinch his way through this season. Hopefully he has taken stock. If he is unable to move the club forward, he should surely be looking for some inward investment.
mortonjag 2008-04-03 15:36:46
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 3 2008, 03:33 PM) [snapback]429426[/snapback]
Ah wish you could have been ma GP...oh what fun... laugh.gif

If it's amusement you seek from your GP Spurtle, I can recommend a few in Glasgow. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-03 15:40:04
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Apr 3 2008, 03:34 PM) [snapback]429427[/snapback]
In certain places Dean can be quite influential and show leadership wink.gif ...obviously though not at Cappielow.

You are stretching my faculties to the limit-David/secretary---Aye

Dean-NEVER I'm highly honoured! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-03 16:13:38
QUOTE(jimmy boag delivers @ Apr 3 2008, 03:46 PM) [snapback]429434[/snapback]
Big Stu has been much better of late. He's clearing his lines well and has stopped trying to head the ball when it's six inches off the ground!

All we need is the big centre backs to keep things simple.

The midfield's been beefed up-it's not always obvious, but that's definitely taken pressure off the central defence.
mortonjag 2008-04-03 16:32:19
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Apr 3 2008, 04:23 PM) [snapback]429447[/snapback]
Is our recent revival down the

SHOOGLESHONK REDEMPTION

Aye-Shoogly got out of jail just in time!
mortonjag 2008-04-03 20:21:54
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Apr 3 2008, 05:48 PM) [snapback]429478[/snapback]
Christ that didn't take much. You need to get yourself enrolled back in the old alma mater. tongue.gif

I still do evening courses, though nothing at present.
mortonjag 2008-04-03 20:24:49
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 3 2008, 07:21 PM) [snapback]429491[/snapback]
this is no real big shock?!
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Waken up, puggsy...
s(he) will make millions.

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Just like the Shooglemeister.
mortonjag 2008-04-03 20:35:00
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Apr 3 2008, 07:53 PM) [snapback]429494[/snapback]
Only because Clyde have now played their game in hand...

....and we leaked goals before JM left.
mortonjag 2008-04-03 21:46:33
QUOTE(nani @ Apr 3 2008, 09:16 PM) [snapback]429504[/snapback]
Have to say I`m disappointed with the replies.....especially you Morton Jag. As for being in 2nd bottom because Clyde have played their game in hand?! Perhaps its because we have won 1 game in 7 and dropped 14 points since Irons made us a "tighter unit" As far as i can see we are still playing one up, hitting aimless long balls and cannae score. Yeah we`ve had a couple of clean sheets but very fortuitously v Thistle when, quite frankly, we were dreadful. Plus the two games we had to win....v Clyde and Livvy we failed to do so. Anyway McInally is in the past and maybe one way or the other we`ll be playing in the 1st Division next season. However that remains to be seen and as far as Irons goes he remains unproven...both at Gretna where he nearly blew a 14 pt lead and with us. The reality is that we have scraped 1 victory and that v the bottom team. And you lot seem happy with that......

Mortonjag likes to disappoint people!

I've been fairly critical of David Irons. I was raging that we didn't get the three points at Broadwood, but anybody with one eye and half a brain can see we're much better organised. I take it you were at Firs Park on Saturday watching your lover boy's team. We could easily have had the three points at Dumfries-they were NEVER in it-AND we're ging to beat Dundee on Saturday.


PS-are you a skunk?
mortonjag 2008-04-03 21:51:03 MORTON 2 DUNDEE 1


LEAFY - 2
mortonjag 2008-04-03 22:08:23
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 3 2008, 10:03 PM) [snapback]429511[/snapback]
courses of brick work ??

you multi-talented man, you.

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Indeed-just a w*nker like Churchill! Is that how it was cement to be?
mortonjag 2008-04-03 22:11:21
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 3 2008, 10:07 PM) [snapback]429515[/snapback]
and even if not, will the child be emotionally scarred by having such parents ???

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Dr mortonjag, your professional opinion, please.

We thank you, professor.

Oh I'd not be in the slightest surprised if he's crucified.

Is that not what happened last time somebody pulled a fast one like this?
mortonjag 2008-04-03 22:14:55
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 3 2008, 10:13 PM) [snapback]429520[/snapback]

Oh I'd not be in the slightest surprised if he's crucified.

he's crucified ?

Who ?

the father ?

the child ?

the other ?

The 'thing' they produce from somewhere at the end of this 'pregnancy'.
mortonjag 2008-04-04 09:28:22
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 3 2008, 11:33 PM) [snapback]429540[/snapback]
Irons is playing with McInally's team , he spoke about the system he has had to adop rather than the one he wants to play because we have a squad of central midfielders .

I admit we have no real quality upfront and that is a huge problem , but hey that will be that guy Irons fault . Perhaps we should have kept guys like Coakley who added so much to the club .

Any idiot can see the transformation in the defence , McInally could not get his own players to perform at this level .
We are in this mess not because of Irons but because of several earlier factors .

The failure to make any signings with significent 1st division experience in the summer.

Tactics and substitutions from McInally went from bizarre to inane .

Our terrible home record( and I don't mean Life is Life )

Losing a game in extra time against our nearest rivals showed how devoid of confidence the players were .

So in steps Irons ... with problems in defence and up top , his priority is to stop us leaking goals (unless you have the Kevin Keegan coaching manual). This should start giving the players some confidence .

I won't pretend to think that Irons is happy with his record but until he has his own players in and given the same budget as McInally then we might see a true comparison .
However if you believe that McInally would have saved us from the play offs I'll have half a pint of whatever your on ( pint would be too much .... I hate hilucangenic drugs



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QUOTE(vikingTON @ Apr 3 2008, 11:47 PM) [snapback]429546[/snapback]
Corect as he didn't have any.
He put out a formation, swapped the players around to half fit the formation and from what it looks, told them: "Win".
Irons is adapting the team to meet each individual sides strengths and weaknesses, like a competent manager would.

...and still managed to con 75% of the fans and Shoogly for three years-some man!

QUOTE(irvineTON @ Apr 4 2008, 08:27 AM) [snapback]429586[/snapback]
Are you on the wind-up?

U surely must be, noone can back McInally after the dreadful performances and shambolic defending this season. U cannot compare the 2 managers records!! Irons can only use the s***e that McInally has left him. If u can't see the improvement under Irons, then u must be off ur rocker!!!! wink.gif ohmy.gif

....or a she goat.

QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 4 2008, 09:03 AM) [snapback]429587[/snapback]
interestingly, both irons and mcinally have averaged exactly one point per game - and that looks to be play-off form as clyde might well get 4 points themselves.

mcinally's goals per game ratio is better than irons'. irons needs 3.6 goals against dundee to catch up, so i predict

4-3 to the ton tongue.gif

mind you, i think we're good for a couple of draws against alloa, so it'll all come down to penalties sad.gif

We will beat Dundee.
mortonjag 2008-04-04 09:37:54
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Apr 3 2008, 11:14 PM) [snapback]429533[/snapback]
The reality is though MJ, that you had a substantial salary from the NHS all your working days and have retired on an inflation proofed NHS pension - n'est ce pas? That makes you a lot better off than the majority of people I see in my working life. You try paying for a repeat prescription whilst on low (but not low enough) earnings to qualify for free charges.

As I happens, I too have a repeat prescription for life but mine was self inflicted due to a predeliction for nice red wine with the consequent impact on big toes!! I can afford it but I see many who can't and maybe means testing would be a better approach that universal free prescriptions.

Quick PS: I did not mean to imply that doctors should not be well rewarded for 1) their academic achievments - being in the top 5% intellectually and using that constructively should be rewarded 2) For the hours they put in - something they have in common with most professionals where the typicla working week is a t least 50 hours.



I'm pretty alive to the realities and support assistance for those with chronic and terminal conditions versus the current free for all scramble.

QUOTE(El Duderino @ Apr 3 2008, 11:36 PM) [snapback]429541[/snapback]
I thought one of the big reasons why prescription charges were re-introduced was that every Tom, Dick and Archie had a medicine cabinet to rival most of the hospital wards.

Same reason as why free spectacles was scrapped. Everyone wanted a couple of spares .... "just in case".

It's a question of resources and the NHS isn't limitless

I think it's a backward step, but meant with good pseudosocialist intentions.

I agree with Mortonjag that perhaps "chronic illness" prescriptions could be subsidised (further than they already are - these drugs are often astronomically expensive), whereas more acute prescriptions (antiobiotics etc) should perhaps cost joe public an appropriate fee (with appropriate exemptions i.e 1 in 5 persons in glasgow "incapable of working" rolleyes.gif )

I also think the NHS should look to recoup some finances form the thousands of wasted GP and hospital appointments that people can't be arsed attending.

My GP had a sign up saying 118 people didn't attend their appointment in the last month!!!

What the f*** is that about!

My dentist would charge me £10 if I didn't go - Why not the GP?

�1180 a month just from one GP practice.....

Maybe if people didn't waste the Doc's time then people could get seen quicker?

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You Sir, clearly have no need for spectacles! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-04 09:56:19
QUOTE(cappielow-doc @ Apr 4 2008, 12:38 AM) [snapback]429558[/snapback]
Because you are saying that everyone that does my job does nothing but con old ladies into changing companies and going to direct debit.You haven't got a clue what you are talking about,therefore painting everyone with the same brush,thus making you a FUD!!!



QUOTE(cappielow-doc @ Apr 4 2008, 12:42 AM) [snapback]429559[/snapback]
P.S. this CHILD is 43 years old,and has been doing this job for the last 6 1/2 years.

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Shall I rephrase then?

It's all about attempting to persuade the public that changing 'energy provider' to Scottish Power will be to its advantage, and obtaining authorisation for that.

It is often the case that consumers are persuaded to change when in fact they gain no advantage, or even incur an overall loss.

It is also the case that vulnerable people (many of whom are elderly and female) are FAR more likely than others, to sign contracts and direct debits for charming and persuasive (43 year old ) young men in smart suits and shiny shoes.

I knew you were a con artist the minute you called yourself a Doc.

Really you're just a fud who preys on vulnerable old ladies! sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-04 10:00:36 Mortonjag has many acquaintances. Close friends are best avoided.
mortonjag 2008-04-04 10:06:18
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 4 2008, 07:37 AM) [snapback]429580[/snapback]
The "world's first pregnant man" and his wife say they may have to go into hiding to avoid a violent conservative reaction to their baby.

Transgender man Thomas Beatie and his wife Nancy appeared on the Oprah Winfrey Show and discussed the pregnancy at length, including the method of conception.

Mr Beatie, 34, was born a woman but switched sexes 10 years go by taking testosterone and undergoing surgery to remove his breasts.

He was legally recognised as a man in his home state of Oregon, although he still has female organs.

"I opted not do anything with my reproductive organs because I wanted to have a child," Mr Beatie told Winfrey.

When asked by the talk show host how they planned to deal with media "hound-dogs outside your door step", Mrs Beatie said they would go into hiding if necessary.

"We just want to have the baby now and we've let people know our story our way … we're not going to obviously be able to keep our business running but it's something that we knew would possibly happen."

Nancy Beatie said she had inseminated her husband, who is now six months pregnant, at home by using a veterinary syringe with donor sperm.

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Amber, Mrs Nancy’s adult daughter from a previous marriage, said she was scared about the couple going public with their news.

"It's a little scary, we're scared for them," she said.

"I don't know that the world is all that prepared but we're just regular born people and a regular family."

Mrs Beatie insisted that the couple's roles would not change after birth and that she would be the mother and Mr Beatie would be the father to the child.

"When I look at him he gets bigger everyday, it doesn't change how I feel about him being my husband."

"It's so wonderful, I bet a lot of women would like to have their husband's pregnant," she said.

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Mr Beatie said he thought "different was normal", when Winfrey asked if the pair thought the world was ready for a man to have a baby.

"Love makes a family, that's all that matters," he said to applause.

The couple's obstetrician Dr Kimberly James, who accepted them after they were turned down by other doctors, said the pregnancy was normal and that Mr Beatie stopped taking testosterone two years ago.
Only in America ???

The truth is that we have here two biological women. The rest is utterly contrived.

I suspect God may sort them out-he has a habit of doing that.
mortonjag 2008-04-04 10:10:03
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Apr 4 2008, 12:55 AM) [snapback]429563[/snapback]
I'm loath to share this website with anyone wink.gif but here ya go.

http://www.g23.com/

some amazing clobber on there, very reasonable. Quick and efficient delivery. Got my blue and gold Puma Clyde from them, fcking gorgeous! smile.gif

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mortonjag 2008-04-04 10:12:05
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Apr 4 2008, 09:18 AM) [snapback]429589[/snapback]
Stylish Sir, damnably stylish.

I favour lacing boots tbh.

Brogans for a more casual day out.

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mortonjag 2008-04-04 14:07:16
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Apr 4 2008, 10:11 AM) [snapback]429604[/snapback]
Hey. MJ learnt how to multi-quote! smile.gif

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mortonjag 2008-04-04 14:22:48 Bawbags CAN be useful.



Function

The function of the scrotum appears to be to keep the testes at a temperature slightly lower than that of the rest of the body. For the human, a temperature around 34.4 degrees Celsius (94 degrees Fahrenheit) seems to be ideal; 36.7 degrees Celsius (98 degree Fahrenheit) may be damaging to sperm count. The temperature is controlled by moving the testicles closer to the abdomen when it is cold, and away when hot. This is done by the contracting and relaxing of the cremaster muscle in the abdomen and the dartos fascia (muscular tissue under the skin) in the scrotum. However, this may not be the main function. The volume of sperm produced by the testes is small, (0.1-0.2ml). It has been suggested that if testes were situated within the abdominal cavity that they would be subjected to the regular changes in abdominal pressure that is exerted by the abdominal muscles. This squeezing and relaxing would result in the more rapid emptying of the testes and epididymes of sperm before the spermatozoa were matured sufficiently for fertilisation. Some mammals--elephants and sea-mammals, for example--do keep their testes within the abdomen and there may be mechanisms to prevent this inadvertent emptying.

In most biological males, the cremaster muscle itself cannot be controlled voluntarily. Contraction of the abdominal muscles, and changes in intraabdominal pressure, often can lift and lower the testicles within the scrotum. Contraction of the muscle fibers of the dartos tunic (or fascia) is completely involuntary and results in the appearance of increased wrinkling and thickening of the scrotal skin. The testicles are not directly attached to the skin of the scrotum, so this dartos contraction results in their sliding toward the abdomen.
The human scrotum, which contains the testicles.
The human scrotum, which contains the testicles.

Although the ideal temperature for sperm growth varies between species, it usually appears, in warm-blooded species, to be a bit cooler than internal body temperature, necessitating the scrotum. Since this leaves the testicles vulnerable in many species, there is some debate on the evolutionary advantage of such a system. One theory is that the impregnation of females who are ill is less likely when sperm is highly sensitive to elevated body temperatures.

An alternative explanation is to protect the testes from jolts and compressions associated with an active lifestyle. Animals that have 'stately' movements - such as elephants, whales, and marsupial moles - have internal testes and no scrotum


If we signed Williams today and he scored three tomorrow in a victory, and another eight before the end of the season, and fifty in next season's championship winning run-he's still be a bawbag.

Bawbags CAN be useful.
mortonjag 2008-04-04 14:32:46
QUOTE(Alibi @ Apr 4 2008, 02:03 PM) [snapback]429733[/snapback]
Enough is enough. If they can't fulfil their fixtures, that should be the end of it. Patently obvious they are trading while insolvent and currently reducing creditor value. If they don't stop, the administrators are being negligent.

It's been patently obvious for some time that the creditors are very far down the pecking order.

CRIMINAL BEHAVIOUR.[center][/center]


As I have stated from the word 'go' dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-04 14:44:00
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Apr 4 2008, 02:30 PM) [snapback]429748[/snapback]
ok, so you are qualified to make this judgement because "your partner is an executive at scottish power". does that mean that the views those expressed are those of your partner? i am sure that the press would be very interested in getting a couple of soundbites from him/her if thats the case.

i smell a Ratner...

Don't be naive-I NEVER express any views except my own, and they are invariably correct.

I have met many old, and not so old ladies and gentlemen, who have expressed regret at having concluded bargains of all sorts, without due consideration of the possible consequences.

Marriage is one well known example.

My partner-to whom I am NOT married, simply confirms that customers are not always advised appropriately when they change energy supplier.

mortonjag 2008-04-04 14:45:57
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Apr 4 2008, 12:38 PM) [snapback]429662[/snapback]
Bollox!

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mortonjag 2008-04-04 14:51:19
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 4 2008, 10:30 AM) [snapback]429614[/snapback]
When we can spend £Billions of pounds on wars, perhaps getting annoyed on spending £57m on abolishing prescription charges seems rather foolish.

It's still a HELLUVA lot of money wee Nickerless can't now spend elsewhere in the NHS Spurtle.

Good idea in principle, and she's still made a total arse of it. Hopefully she will do better in future.
mortonjag 2008-04-04 14:56:00
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 4 2008, 10:39 AM) [snapback]429616[/snapback]
Would-be property magnates take note. biggrin.gif

He also has close connections with several Zurich gnomes.
mortonjag 2008-04-04 15:00:29
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 4 2008, 12:50 PM) [snapback]429677[/snapback]
I hope your next jobby is a small spikey rodent.

Ever the gentleman.
mortonjag 2008-04-04 15:06:16
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Apr 4 2008, 02:51 PM) [snapback]429762[/snapback]
Yet another convenient relation in an I know your job better than you do Mortonjag job post. What is you partner's title? I reckon he's the assistant vice president of beverages whos most stressful time of the day is mid morning and just after lunch.

F*ck off Raterse-Mortonjag NEVER lies. You just haven't forgiven me for the Surveyors having to settle out of court because this old fud spotted a lead mains water pipe which was there for all to see! tongue.gif

.....AND the Lecky's just been switched off at yer scabby wee hoose!
mortonjag 2008-04-04 15:09:51
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Apr 4 2008, 10:48 AM) [snapback]429620[/snapback]
Hush puppies are for louche Terry Thomas types.

So be it.

Better than brogues and a baseball bunnet a la Haig!
mortonjag 2008-04-04 15:17:19
QUOTE(Edinton @ Apr 4 2008, 11:54 AM) [snapback]429651[/snapback]
Can we keep actual names out of it please, especially if we're making allegations or sullying someone's name (deserved or not), cheers

OK Griselda!
mortonjag 2008-04-04 15:30:57
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 4 2008, 02:49 PM) [snapback]429759[/snapback]
Perhaps Doctors have been 'murdering' terminally ill patients for years then. Should they resist giving that extra cc of morphine just to relieve pain, and walk away and leave them to suffer instead? In these cases, I'm sure it's a fine line between a pain relieving dose and a deadly one.

Of course we have-good gracious, little Georges is so precious at times.

I argue that the term 'assisted suicide' is more acceptable, not least because it adds a modicum of dignity, but if pimpleknob wants it his way-so be it.

Maybe if I botch up his 'assisted suicide' he'll be charged with having been an accessory to attempted murder, though he'll no doubt have died in agony long before it gets to court.

DOCTORS ARE MASS MURDERERS
mortonjag 2008-04-04 15:33:13
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 4 2008, 03:04 PM) [snapback]429769[/snapback]
£57m is a lot of money. But it pails in to insignificance when you compare that to the £billions spent on wars.

The NHS and the the wars in Iraq and Afganistan, not forgetting Trident of course, are all funded from Westminster through various channels.

To criticise Strugeon for spending a paltry £57m in the big scheme of things, beggers belief.

If Scotland raised and kept all of it's Taxes you could have an argument. But it doesn't, it realies on funding from Westminster, who's priorities seems to be funding for wars and weapons of mass destruction, before funding the NHS and Scotland.

Misspending Spurtle-it IS different.
mortonjag 2008-04-04 15:37:43
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Apr 4 2008, 02:39 PM) [snapback]429752[/snapback]
If this was a dying person the machine would be switched off enough is enough its a bigger joke than ever now. Its a disgrace sympathies alibi but you can kiss the money bye bye unless you go directly for mileson but would not hold your breath

....which would be 'passive' euthanasia, and not murder! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-04 15:39:24 sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-04 15:41:03
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 4 2008, 03:37 PM) [snapback]429783[/snapback]
"There are none so blind, as those who would not see..."

I can get you a cheap pair of specs, but they ain't exactly free on the NHS now Spurtle.
mortonjag 2008-04-04 15:42:47
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 4 2008, 03:05 PM) [snapback]429770[/snapback]
A sectarian factor applied in those times as well. Protestants tended to vote Conservative/Unionist (except the Edwards) and Catholics voted Labour (except the McBs).

Those would have been the days before cross breeding was legal I imagine.
mortonjag 2008-04-04 15:49:57
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Apr 4 2008, 03:42 PM) [snapback]429788[/snapback]
Couldn't agree more. He didn't give a fúck about us when we needed him, pissed away chance after chance and in his last nine months at the club he was a fúcking disgrace. Hope he takes a walk till his bunnet floats. The last thing we need is another stint with this over rated, up his own arse, prima donna of a fúckwit.

He showed his class the last time he was here in the way he treated his club, his team mates and the fans.

A disgrace of a footballer.

TonInDublin

More sinned against than sinning I'd say. A poor wee tortured soul trying to fight demons, and just in need of some genuine affection.

TBH I'd rather see the arrogant little fud kicking f*ck oot a fitba' than an old lady mind you. blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-04 16:44:36
QUOTE(mortonjag @ Apr 4 2008, 03:39 PM) [snapback]429786[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-04-04 16:47:16
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Apr 4 2008, 04:05 PM) [snapback]429796[/snapback]
Do you drink in the Quaich in Shawlands by any chance? There's an old fella, a regular, in there that tells everyone he owns Morton. He's right scruffy looking too.

Nope! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-04 16:55:59
QUOTE(cappielow-doc @ Apr 4 2008, 04:10 PM) [snapback]429799[/snapback]
I dont go round chapping doors "conning" old and vulnerable people to do anything,quite the opposite,i visit existing customers who have agreed to switch to a different company and show them the benefits of staying with Scottish Power,many of them regret having decided to change in the first place.If they want to stay with S.P. then i arrange for the transfer back to S.P.

Its other companies that employ agencies on a commission only basis that con old ladies and the like to make a fast buck.I never lie to a customer,ive no need to,i make plenty by telling the truth,and the consequences of being found out after a complaint are far too excessive for the sake of a couple of quid.

Im sure you have met many old and not so old ladies and gentlemen who have regreted changing but i bet the majority regretted changing to a company other than Scottish Power.

Incidently,MJ,who supplies your energy,i presume its Scottish Power what with Mrs MJ being an exec!!
if so.....GET AFF MA BACK YA FUD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Aye very good. Why don't Iberdrola just write to those customers with little brochures demonstrating the error of their ways, with a clear cut cost for cost analysis and projections for the next twelve months?

Surely that would be much cheaper than paying folk £30,000- £40,000 per annum to do exactly the same?

Oh, and I'm not 'on your back'. I touched a tender spot and you took umbrage. Door to door salesmen are generally 'con artists'.
mortonjag 2008-04-04 17:21:53
QUOTE(cappielow-doc @ Apr 4 2008, 05:11 PM) [snapback]429817[/snapback]
Maybe they should employ you,save loads of money and put us all on the dole,or maybe your "exec" mrs should put it in the suggestion box.Im sure this cost cutting excercise has been thought of before and decided that it wasn't the way to go.But im still employed by Scottish Power and will continue to do my job,i dont tell lies,if i go to an elderly customer who for instance has changed to Staywarm and can burn as much as they like for around 50 or 60 quid a month i'll walk away,on the other hand if a customer has changed to N/Power or Scottish Gas and i CAN save them money by staying where they are i will do so.......no wee brochure will tell them that.

By the way you did touch a tender spot...i RESENT being called a con artist

I haven't specifically called you a 'con artist'. My first post on this topic was to Boozehound, and was stated in general terms.

How would you describe your job-you clearly don't like to be thought of as a persuasive salesman, which, IMO, is exactly what you are.
mortonjag 2008-04-04 17:24:10
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 4 2008, 05:14 PM) [snapback]429818[/snapback]
What you don't seem to appreciate though is that the 'buy to letters' are providing a service that was sadly lacking after Thatcher's sell-off of the best council housing stock. Without private rental housing sector there would be a shortage of affordable rented accommodation.

I rent out a flat in Greenock, but it's well maintained and looked after and the rental is certainly not exploitative.

You do all this for no profit pimpleknob?
mortonjag 2008-04-04 17:25:27
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 4 2008, 05:18 PM) [snapback]429819[/snapback]
It's a funny old time of year for the weather, isn't it.

It's a lovely warm evening and I'm sitting in the garden typing this while enjoying a nice glass of rosé, and yet the forecast for the beginning of next week is snow.

It's crazy I tell you.

a glass of nice rose?
mortonjag 2008-04-04 17:28:16
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 4 2008, 05:27 PM) [snapback]429828[/snapback]
Panic over, it was a tractor.

What am I like? rolleyes.gif

Petit.
mortonjag 2008-04-04 17:29:07
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 4 2008, 05:25 PM) [snapback]429826[/snapback]
Aye, of course I do. rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2008-04-04 17:31:26
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Apr 4 2008, 05:00 PM) [snapback]429814[/snapback]
Your post was spot on until you got to the Finlayson bit. We have not scored many recently but Finlayson or McAllister have had a hand in most of them. The guys are doing the feeding. Unfortunately we don't have anyone in the middle at the moment accepting the chances.

Cart before horse IMO.
mortonjag 2008-04-04 17:32:28
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 4 2008, 05:30 PM) [snapback]429831[/snapback]
Dwarfs like me would kill to be petit.

Anyway, somebody just drove past and he looked a bit shifty. Should I call the cops just to be on the safe side?

Aye!
mortonjag 2008-04-05 09:03:08
QUOTE(cappielow-doc @ Apr 4 2008, 05:59 PM) [snapback]429846[/snapback]
Of course it could be described as persuasive,but i also present the facts in the form of pricing leaflets from rival compaies to compare with our own.Its then up to the customer to decide what do do with the information in front of them.If i present a brochure which clearly states that Scottish Power is cheaper than a rival company after a salesman from that company told you different,what would you do?If your direct debit was cut by £20 a month and their prices are higher.......you do the math.

Its up to the customer



OK-let's accept for a moment that you're not one of the majority of 'con men' in this game, and let's accept that you are utterly sincere, and never, ever tell lies.

Do you research all the information you are given personally to make sure it is accurate, and presented in a simple, straightforward manner which is not in any way designed to show your employer in a good light?

Secondly, are you acquainted with the concept of INFORMED consent, and its legal implications?


QUOTE(LargsTON @ Apr 4 2008, 07:06 PM) [snapback]429881[/snapback]
So how WAS London? tongue.gif



WTF are you talking about? unsure.gif


QUOTE(DongaTon @ Apr 4 2008, 07:23 PM) [snapback]429907[/snapback]
Another thread fcked over by the narcissistic egomaniac cnt.,


Manky's only made one post!


QUOTE(cappielow-doc @ Apr 5 2008, 02:37 AM) [snapback]430075[/snapback]
dont worry,he'll be back..........doesn't know wwhen he's beay or to shut up


Sooner you learn that, sooner you'll give up! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-05 09:07:47
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 4 2008, 07:11 PM) [snapback]429888[/snapback]
Funny you should say that, cos my back garden is a cemetery. No really, it is. I'm literally a few feet away from a stiff. I've taken pictures of all the headstones and tell everyone they're my neighbours.

If Fred West had lived here he'd have got away with it.

But anyway, it was only a tractor that sounded a bit like a helicopter.

....and will soon be getting beasted into some vintage Belgian chocolate.
mortonjag 2008-04-05 09:18:46
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Apr 4 2008, 11:53 PM) [snapback]430034[/snapback]
Right
and flock
and fok
and sock
and mok
and lock
and?

WOK



This useless old fud of a Doc
Is truly sh*t hot with his wok
Crisp spring pancake rolls
Deep fried chicken balls
And freshly chopped sweet and sour c*ck
mortonjag 2008-04-05 09:28:42
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Apr 5 2008, 12:05 AM) [snapback]430043[/snapback]
.......and so you should.
Let's applaud common sense and non political bias when it comes to peoples health
It's time we removed charges to treat illness - well done I say and f8ck off anyone who harbours or uses things like this for their political gain!

Talisker?



I'm confused-whom are you applauding, and whom are you telling to f*ck off?


...and how do you define the illness for which treatment should be free?
mortonjag 2008-04-05 09:32:58
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Apr 5 2008, 01:55 AM) [snapback]430072[/snapback]
You're no better than Harold Shipman. rolleyes.gif

Nobody is completely evil. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-05 09:42:31
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 4 2008, 06:09 PM) [snapback]429849[/snapback]
The only place you should see braces are in a pizza-faced teenager's gub.



I'd rather take them smartly across his little pink botty.


[quote name='DongaTon' date='Apr 4 2008, 07:21 PM' post='429904']
MortonJag, what's wrong with being gay?

Gaiety in footwear I find disgusting.


mortonjag 2008-04-05 09:55:43
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 5 2008, 09:23 AM) [snapback]430099[/snapback]
Fail...please try again tongue.gif

Fail-WTF are you yabbering about boy-stick to numbers-rolls and balls are perfectly acceptable with only a hint of poetic language! rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 5 2008, 09:25 AM) [snapback]430100[/snapback]
Deep fried chicken balls

are chicken balls bigger than fish balls ?

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How long is a piece of Shooglyesque?
mortonjag 2008-04-05 10:03:00
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Apr 4 2008, 07:47 PM) [snapback]429916[/snapback]
I think it would be a good idea if creamola foam came back into the shops


Originally produced in Glasgow, Creamola Foam was practically unknown south of the Border, but sold all over Scotland. It was also popular in Northern Ireland. A number of Creamola Foam nostalgia websites have sprung up, in which fans have discussed their favourite flavours, disputed the spelling (Creamola, not Cremola, is correct), hailed it as a hangover cure, and even hinted at less family-friendly uses for the drinks, such as mixing with vodka and even snorting the powder laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-05 10:05:20
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 4 2008, 08:50 PM) [snapback]429946[/snapback]
How are the under 17s and under 19s going this season ?

I never see anything in the online Greenock Telegraph or Inverclyde Now.

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Hey Newt, are you a trouble maker? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-05 10:07:45 After today's results we'll feel much more comfortable.
mortonjag 2008-04-05 10:12:58
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 5 2008, 03:15 AM) [snapback]430079[/snapback]
AFTER a frantic week of bluff and counter-bluff, the Scottish Premier League was forced to come up with an 11th-hour rescue package to save Gretna from closure yesterday.

Following yet another threat from the administrator to pull the plug yesterday morning, the SPL board is understood to have guaranteed funding of £340,000 to see Gretna through to the end of the season.

This afternoon's match against Inverness Caledonian Thistle at Fir Park is now expected go ahead.
http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/sport/SPL-...more.3951248.jp
If I was a creditor I would be doing all I could to help all the trade creditors to feeze that £340,000.

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What a waste using it for 6 more matches.

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Tonsilitis may still believe the Administrator is acting wholly in the creditors' interest.
mortonjag 2008-04-05 10:18:10
QUOTE(centralTON @ Apr 4 2008, 06:15 PM) [snapback]429853[/snapback]
Bawbags CAN be useful.

Aye, but, not in this instance, MJ.
Wouldn't touch him with a barge pole.
Why does this thread appear every few weeks.



Presumably because folk believe the answer to our woes lies ON the pitch! wink.gif


QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Apr 5 2008, 05:04 AM) [snapback]430085[/snapback]
Haven't read the whole thread because it appears all the time, but my opinion is that Alex is exactly the type of player that we need. If we could sign Williams the player with a personality transplant, I would be willing to pay a sizeable fee for him (although to be honest, he would be playing well above our level), but his behaviour in the past was all wrong and the door to Cappielow is now firmly shut for him. A player in his mould though, should be our priority - pace, effort and always in the right place at the right time to score goals. Who else fits that bill I don't rightly know, but the chances are DDFR will have to get the cheque book out and pay a sizeable sum on someone who isn't Paul McGowan. We should have kept Linn until we got a direct replacement.
I bear Alex no ill will though, he was my favourite player when he was here, I thought he showed massive potential and I still hope he can fulfil that even if it is unlikely.

Personality transplant in place-couldn't agree more-time we got some entertainment back to Cappielow. 'Grinding out results' has become JM's legacy.
mortonjag 2008-04-05 10:30:35
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Apr 5 2008, 10:17 AM) [snapback]430122[/snapback]
I wonder if any of our fans who remember seeing Bobby Collins play for Morton between 1969 and 1971 could read this: http://greenockmortonfc.blogspot.com/2008/...-wee-barra.html and maybe post any memories of the player below.

My lasting memory of Bobby will always be his tackling-he really was short-I don't know what the stats say but he couldn't have exceeded 5'5", and seemed almost as broad! tongue.gif

I'm not talking about clever slide tackling from either side--Bobby would close down an oncoming player and you just KNEW what would happen-he always took the ball and/or the man, and never ended up the loser. I remember standing behind the goals at Sinclair St. in one particular game, when he 'took' a big attacker about thirty yards out, and I still recall the unbelievable 'crunch' as Bobby ran clear with the ball and played it forward. It was a totally legal tackle, but the poor guy was subsequently stretchered off.
mortonjag 2008-04-05 10:35:22
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 5 2008, 10:10 AM) [snapback]430117[/snapback]
MJ is that your monkey advertising the tea bags on tv?????? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

No, that's his friend 'Sage'-if you look carefully you'll see a distinct difference in colour, and in the shape of the mouth!

The Monkey's hoping to play trials for the Ton once they get a youth set up organised.
mortonjag 2008-04-05 11:08:30
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 5 2008, 10:47 AM) [snapback]430138[/snapback]
Fair do's I thought we had a celebrity in our midst!

Ha---but Sage lives here too-I'm assuming you're talking about the PG tips ad.

I shall get a wee fotie of him beside the Monkey after we beat Dundee.
mortonjag 2008-04-05 11:12:28
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Apr 5 2008, 10:40 AM) [snapback]430134[/snapback]
Cheers Mortonjag.

Throughout the book the author refers to Collins' insistence he was 5' 3 and a half"

I also remember his c*cky smile-not arrogant but just a look that said 'I'm a winner'!
mortonjag 2008-04-05 11:20:32
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 5 2008, 10:06 AM) [snapback]430112[/snapback]
MJ , you are a font of knowledge!

Well I must confess to a bit of plagiarism there, though the Creamola Custard company was once owned by the Hetherington family, and Miss Hetherington was my young sister's Brown Owl in the Kilmacolm Guides! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-05 11:23:23
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Apr 4 2008, 11:48 PM) [snapback]430027[/snapback]
No, but sometimes she has my ashtray on her back!

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I'm surprised that you smoke!
mortonjag 2008-04-05 11:28:14
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Apr 5 2008, 11:21 AM) [snapback]430148[/snapback]
Whether he is or not depends on whether the £340,000 would have been payable anyway. I suspect that if the club folded, they would not get that money and so the administrator is simply using 'found' money to keep it going a bit longer in the hope of concluding negotiations with one of the parties interested in taking over.

If the money would have been payable whether they concluded their playing programme or not, then the administrator is imho playing with fire and seriously prejudicing the creditors' interest.

I think my first scenario is closer to the truth i.e. that the money is only available if they complete their programme.

That would seem to make sense, but if it was so clear cut, and genuinely in the interests of the SPL, AND the creditors, why has it taken so many 'crisis meetings' and apparent jiggery pokery before they splashed out?
mortonjag 2008-04-05 11:35:18
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Apr 5 2008, 11:24 AM) [snapback]430150[/snapback]
I agree something to teach future generations of our heritage is long overdue.
I would love to have seen a fully functioning maritime museum placed next to the Custom House at the East India Harbour area.
A building with all our history documented, piracy, navy, the highland clearances, the slave trade and the many merchant operations that have operated from here.
All this would be shaped on a walk through time, with as much interactive components as possible.
Original or replica boats and ships in the dock areas of a wide rage, cutters, 3 masters, navy and pirate ships etc for the public to board and experience life at sea over the centuries, eating establishments, a pub and shops all as authentic as possible and designed to reflect what used to be here.
If someone with vision, and I for one can't see our council ever looking at this type of scheme, was ever to come up with something like this it could prove a major boost to our local economy.
You mention Liverpool docks, and the work carried out there was excellent, but I was amazed to see the transformation at Salford Quays in Greater Manchester which is a fantastic place to visit, with something for every age group to enjoy. And a lot of this was done with lottery cash, why can't we do it?

Greenock has a huge heritage compared to many provincial Scottish towns, and seems to do nothing to perpetuate the memories.

Even Coatbridge-which in truth is a scabby little place-has a heritage museum commemorating its history as an 'Iron Town'.
mortonjag 2008-04-05 11:37:12
QUOTE(MrX @ Apr 4 2008, 10:50 PM) [snapback]429968[/snapback]
In the games I've watched, Russell has run aboot like a headless chicken and did very little else. Willliams' extra curricula activities aside, what does Russell have to his game that Williams didn't have....... he can't score, works hard, does f*ck all else. Forget about the attitudes, and I'd personally rather have Williams. Never gonna happen though, so I'm a bit pished and don't know why I started this thread.

LEAFY will come good. He will score today against Dundee for starters!
mortonjag 2008-04-05 11:40:35
QUOTE(capitanus @ Apr 5 2008, 11:36 AM) [snapback]430155[/snapback]
MortonJug,

for someone who is dead against Poofery, that was a pretty gay thing for you to say.



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mortonjag 2008-04-05 11:53:03 Fundamentalist and Mr Pointment-both £10 e.w.

I don't back horses for the rest of the year mind! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-05 11:54:28
QUOTE(C B @ Apr 5 2008, 11:47 AM) [snapback]430166[/snapback]
I think in every thread today (exg for effect) you've said we're going to beat Dundee !

If you're right, i'll buy the Monkey a new organ (the grinding type - no a kidney) wink.gif



Relax CB-it's all sorted!
mortonjag 2008-04-06 06:48:02 Back to the usual old hat I see-all we need is a decent striker and we'll be hunky dory.

The delivery yesterday was F*CKING ABYSMAL, and you expect folk to 'strike'!

Sorry folks but in many ways we'd have been better off yesterday with two average first division wingers that the huffing and puffing of Jimbo and Kev. Pantaloon's throw ins caused more danger than any of our deliveries including those from corners and set pieces (listening Scotty?).

OK-we can perhaps blame JM, but a striker is in NO way the priority.

mortonjag 2008-04-06 07:02:27
QUOTE(tontric @ Apr 5 2008, 09:58 PM) [snapback]430512[/snapback]
Correct. Great flick as well. Thought Paartalu looked good. Didn't really do anything flash but did the simple things well. If everyone else did the same we wouldn't be in our current predicament.

Wise words-the big man's almost lethargic composure, simple first touch flicks and passes, and incredible throw ins, offered more than all the huffing and puffing of Jimbo and Kev put together.

Yet again McGuffie had a much better game alongside him, while Midge was quiet by his standards.
mortonjag 2008-04-06 07:07:35
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Apr 5 2008, 09:27 PM) [snapback]430489[/snapback]
big difference. Walter Smith is the MANAGER of Rangers. Douglas Rae is the CHAIRMAN of Morton.

It's a bit like comparing pineapple with cabbage.



Or an orange with a jobby.

QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 5 2008, 09:30 PM) [snapback]430495[/snapback]
In

Feck McInally deserved most of the criticism he got and so does DDFR for his backing of the guy .

Dougie paising Celtic fans for being the best in Scotland , absolute bollocks , the man had a chance to retract his statement when Toby asked the question and refused . It will always be a blight on his tenure as chairman .

The Sons of William have always been like this its nothing new . They can't sing their party tunes at home or away and they don't have any songs to sing now.

Celtic fans will revert to type if Rangers clinch the title at Celtic Park .

His tenure as Chairman will indeed always be a blight.
mortonjag 2008-04-06 07:10:36
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Apr 5 2008, 06:38 PM) [snapback]430354[/snapback]
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QUOTE(Bryan @ Apr 5 2008, 09:05 PM) [snapback]430476[/snapback]
Iain "offside" Russell rolleyes.gif



QUOTE(tontric @ Apr 5 2008, 10:58 PM) [snapback]430561[/snapback]
Think you need to polish that crystal ball of yours !!! wink.gif

Gentlemen, as the last poster commented LEAFY produced a true striker's effort which had Sampson well beaten. The boy was only on for twenty minutes, so averaging things out he DEFINITELY scored yesterday! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-06 07:13:30 Rae was definitely accusing Stu of cheating, and the big man mouthed back at him. Rae was then cautioned by the ref on the Linesman's advice.
mortonjag 2008-04-06 07:20:17
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 5 2008, 11:50 PM) [snapback]430579[/snapback]
Jim Mcalister by an absolute mile, he was a class above anyone on the pitch today. special Mention to Partaluu (sp?) and to Finlayson for being as shocking as deego suggests for once.

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QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 6 2008, 01:35 AM) [snapback]430628[/snapback]
i thought millar was good and was our most composed midfielder on the ball. didnt do anything fantastic but kept the game ticking along nicely for us and dont remember a time he lost possession of the ball.

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You have been on the port again darling. Midge was virtually invisible yesterday, and it's Jimbo's LACK of class that let's down all the good donkey work.

PANTALOONS-downright winner.
mortonjag 2008-04-06 07:26:50 Robinson 6
MacGregor 5
Harding 7
Greacen 7
Partaalu 8
McLaughlin 5
McGuffie 7
Millar 5
Finlayson 4
McAllister 7
Weatherson 4


Wake 1

LEAFY 10
mortonjag 2008-04-06 07:31:05
QUOTE(SPL AND WE @ Apr 6 2008, 03:06 AM) [snapback]430648[/snapback]
GOING DOWN AGAIN. laugh.gif

HOPELESS AND SOAPLESS. laugh.gif

Only if the SPL change the rules at the last minute ya f*ckin loser-and with the SPL anything can happen.

FFS even GRETNA scored yesterday in their HUMPING! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-06 07:48:51
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Apr 5 2008, 06:07 PM) [snapback]430302[/snapback]
Davie Irons has got this team playing with fire in their bellies and with a real passion, which is something that's been missing at the club for far too long.

I came away today feeling better about the club's future than I have for a long time, despite such a sickening result. There wasn't a failure amongst those players today, Weatherson aside who I genuinely believe gave his all but his off field activities are obvioulsy hampering his contributions on the park.

Apart from the unfortunate blunder which led to the first goal our back line was solid with Greacen and Harding being absolute rocks, it was no shame losing to a team like Dundee who have real quality throughout their side. Other than the goals they never gave them a look in until we started pouring men forward in the closing stages.

Scott McLaughlin rarely put a foot wrong yet was subjected to abuse from the usual suspects who seem unable to give credit when it's due. My advice to Scott is to simply ignore it as just about everyone in the area I was standing could see he was having a decent game yet one or two go out their way to heckle him regardless. Free kicks aside - he's got to stop taking them.

Ryan McGuffie and Partalu by and large snuffed out the threat of McDonald. That's the McGuffie I recall from Gretna, a real powerhouse, driving his team on and showing a real desire to win. Another transformed by the obvious influence of Irons. Held the team together in the middle and got through an absolute power of work off the ball. My concern when talking to a few lads today was the more blinkered among us still won't recognise his contribution.

Finlayson and McAlister as usual worked like trojans although as usual they lacked quality in their final ball.

This team's really coming together now. They're organised, fighting for one another and showing renewed belief and that's down to one man - Davie Irons. Not to mention his tactical nous seems to be impeccable.

I've no worries he'll keep us up - be it through the play offs or otherwise - and once has a chance to really stamp his authority on the squad the rest of the league better watch out. wink.gif

Sorry for waffling but it's been a long time since I've felt so optimistic about the future.

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It's comments like those which have a habit of coming back to haunt you Bob. The truth is that DI appears to be doing a pretty good job with the resources he has, but please let's wait a little before hailing our new Mourinho!



QUOTE(cornbeef @ Apr 5 2008, 06:31 PM) [snapback]430346[/snapback]
Irons may be the man - but he was far too slow to replace Peter who wasn't at the races.( I would stop short of blaming 'off field activities' - which is a recurring theme from Largston I believe.) I have a lot of regard for Peter as a player but he was getting nowhere today and Irons gambled by keeping him on and it didn't work.
Agree that we look a more solid outfit and that better things could be ahead.

I was very surprsed last week. On a heavy pitch in foul wind and rain, he didn't bring on 'fresh legs' at all. Today I thought LEAFY should have been on 10 minutes into the second half.
QUOTE(tontric @ Apr 5 2008, 10:23 PM) [snapback]430541[/snapback]
Agree again Chrissiboi. McGuffie doesn't do it for me and definitely didn't do it today. He was poor and has been since he signed.

Not sure what you mean about not understanding Greacen though. Seems to me like its pretty obvious what has happened. Irons and Collins (who were both good defenders) have come in and told him what he has to do. It's what coaches should do and from our recent performances it has become really clear that our previous management team were incapable of doing it.

A man sees what he wants to see. McGuffie and Pantaloons did a helluvalot against Queens, and again yesterday when, if anybody went missing, it was Midge.
mortonjag 2008-04-06 08:00:31 unsure.gif


Drunken eejits of all persuasions should not be associated with football supporters.
mortonjag 2008-04-06 08:04:05
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 5 2008, 09:52 PM) [snapback]430509[/snapback]
Peter did have a poor game today. But he will win more balls in the air than Wake ever will, and score more.

I'll go as far as to say Wake is one of the worst players I have ever seen in a Morton shirt. And that's with over 30 years of watching Morton....

Make that 80 between us Claymore!
mortonjag 2008-04-06 08:12:02
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 6 2008, 07:03 AM) [snapback]430677[/snapback]
You cannot be serious. Compare Weatherson's miss with the way Dundee took their chances. If Weatherson was a striker he would have buried that one and we might just have gone on to win the game.
Spoonsy never was and never will be a striker.

DE- it's quite ridiculous to claim a striker as A PRIORITY, when we've NO full backs, NO wingers, only two central defenders, and STILL NO motivator. No striker can 'strike' without a supply-and Aye-Peter could have done better today.

Oh, and while I remember-


SPOONSY WAS, IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE A STRIKER
mortonjag 2008-04-06 08:13:44
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 6 2008, 07:16 AM) [snapback]430681[/snapback]
I've noticed that Russell always beats the keeper when he shoots wide. Try as they may, keepers just can't reach them. biggrin.gif

unsure.gif Wasn't wide from our perspective! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-06 08:15:00
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 6 2008, 07:30 AM) [snapback]430684[/snapback]
laugh.gif I don't follow your scoring method. In the MotM thread you've stated that 'Pantaloons' is a 'downright winner'.

Perhaps I lied.
mortonjag 2008-04-06 08:17:45
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 6 2008, 08:12 AM) [snapback]430692[/snapback]
The most appreciable difference in the team since the arrival of Irons and Collins is that we are now more difficult to beat. Unfortunately, we still find it well nigh impossible to win games. The team remains in my opinion, one of the worst (bar administration and the periods immediately before and after) I've seen in over 40 years. I fear we've left it too late to escape relegation, but I hope to hell I'm wrong.

Stop it-Tonsilitis will have an acute exacerbation of gout!
mortonjag 2008-04-06 08:19:00
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 6 2008, 08:15 AM) [snapback]430696[/snapback]
laugh.gif Then sue your optician.

Don't imagine everyone is like yourself Sir!
mortonjag 2008-04-06 08:21:35
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Apr 6 2008, 08:07 AM) [snapback]430689[/snapback]
Aye it's easy o blame Robinson but had Weatherson scored his early and dare I say it easy chance to put us two up, the game would've been entirely different. Yes Robinson's throw out was bad but those playing upfront, in particular Weatherson failed to protect the guys at the back by again giving the ball away too easily. Our failure to keep the ball and score goals has been our biggest problem.

If ye look oot yer windae ye'll see snaw! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-06 08:24:35
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 6 2008, 08:21 AM) [snapback]430701[/snapback]
I'm neither litigious nor 'visually impaired'.

....earn £5,000.000p.a. selling the Big Issue, and live in one of Pimpledick's rented bed sits and a hair shirt.
mortonjag 2008-04-06 08:25:54
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Apr 6 2008, 08:22 AM) [snapback]430702[/snapback]
Indeed I do.

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Bet it's no snawin doon the watter;)
mortonjag 2008-04-06 08:27:56
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Apr 6 2008, 08:21 AM) [snapback]430699[/snapback]
The sole reason Livvi and Clyde are pulling away from us is because they can score goals. Whilst we have been able to keep them out of late we have no-one that can stick them away for us. If we had brought in a good forward instead of Wake I have no doubt we would be safe in the first division by now. McAllister is our only hope for goals and should start upfront probably with Russell. It's an absolute disgrace that Weatherson is the Captain of the team.

.....but I thought DI had things sorted!
mortonjag 2008-04-06 08:28:25
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 6 2008, 08:26 AM) [snapback]430706[/snapback]
Sure it's no.

WIMP!
mortonjag 2008-04-06 08:35:00
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Apr 5 2008, 06:57 PM) [snapback]430383[/snapback]
MJ, I suffer from a mild form of Asthma, one which requires a repeat prescription once a month which over the past 20 years has cost me a good few bob.

I for one applaud any move to reduce and finally abolish the charges levied on the public as in most cases the low paid are the worst hit as is the norm.

I do agree that a mandate should be met, but we all know the 'adjustments' that go on in politics, at least unlike the previous Labour/Liberal poodle powered alliance this Government are at least trying to make life easier for the less well off in society. It won't all go smoothly, but they are proving more and more everday that we benefit from not having a political animal based in London making every decision.

You're not saying anything I haven't said Barbarossa. I've applauded the concept of abolishing an anomalous and much abused system, and I've asked why the chronic and terminally ill have not been the first to advantage if it is to be staged.

I think there has been a misunderstanding of the term 'CHRONIC', which simply means an ongoing illness like diabetes, or asthma.
mortonjag 2008-04-06 08:39:28
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Apr 5 2008, 10:24 PM) [snapback]430542[/snapback]
I worked in a Hospice and my Father ,Mother in law,Father in Law and two Aunts died in a prolonged and distressing way. So sorry. Yes I do agree with humane help to end suffering when there is no cure.

Just waiting for the first post rubbishing you 'because you're biased'! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-06 08:44:25
QUOTE(cappielow-doc @ Apr 5 2008, 10:43 PM) [snapback]430555[/snapback]
Yes i do research the information as soon as i know of an increase in prices either from Scottish Power or from one of our competitors,id be stupid not to,you never know who your talking to when you chap a door,after all the customer might have researched before deciding to change in the first place.

On the subject of "informed consent,and its legal implications"let me quote from a letter to all advisors from S.P.via Energysure dated 1st June 2003 which i carry at all times in my presenter,informing us what would happen if we told lies at the door.

you are also advised that,in these cicumstances,your name would be removed from the Energysure database and the case may be referred to the police for investigation.

If this is what you mean,then yes i am acquainted and as i have a mortgage and bills i cant afford to tell lies and be found out and lose my job and the financial benefits it brings.As i have stated in a previous post i dont have to tell lies because the majority of customers i visit have been mis-informed from fly guys from our competitors and are only too willing to stay with S.P.having seen the evidence for themselves.Of about 100 doors i chap every week i earn enough to resort to dis-honesty to earn my living,and a nice living it is too,thank you very much.

From what you say, you are indeed a fastidious chap who takes immense care never to be caught out with mistakes.

I applaud you and all like you.
mortonjag 2008-04-06 08:58:27
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Apr 6 2008, 12:08 AM) [snapback]430583[/snapback]
Or do most think they are a burden..

I suggest it may depend on ones age!

QUOTE(vikingTON @ Apr 6 2008, 12:55 AM) [snapback]430607[/snapback]
The ones who clog up supermarkets by using them as chatroooms are immensely frustrating.
I know you shouldn't, but at times it can be difficult not to get annoyed at some old people.

I couldn't agree more-those who flaunt decrepitude are to be abhorred. I have yet to be beaten by any young brat in a souped up hot hatch-just love when they put themselves off the road and double their insurance in one fell swoop, and that's only one example.

How I pity the 'Wham, bang, thank you Mam' energy of the youthful plooked ones, who usually end up coming before they've left.

Little ones, Mortonjag could go on-you don't know you're not living yet! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-06 09:15:10
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Apr 6 2008, 09:07 AM) [snapback]430714[/snapback]
It was nothing to do with me

Alcohol induced paranoia is a sorry condition!
mortonjag 2008-04-06 09:18:45
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Apr 6 2008, 01:07 AM) [snapback]430611[/snapback]
An old wummin in Motherwell called me a feni@n. F*ck them all.

Which was correct?
mortonjag 2008-04-06 10:07:13
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Apr 6 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]430720[/snapback]
I've absolutely no recollection of writing that last night

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mortonjag 2008-04-06 11:41:45
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Apr 6 2008, 10:11 AM) [snapback]430724[/snapback]
I'm supremely confident they won't. smile.gif

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QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Apr 6 2008, 10:16 AM) [snapback]430726[/snapback]
I was having the same conversation with my son yesterday. We concluded that because we have seen what he can do on his game previously, he is worth another season to let Irons try yto get the best out of him. The worry is that he goes to another side like Thistle or queens and starts banging them in again big time - something most of us think he is capable of. He has just not shown it for a long time.

On the criticism of Finlayson and McLaughlin, I just don't get it. Both make mistakes and both do more right than wrong and yesterday Finalyson was our most dangerous forward over the 90 minutes. Both contribute a lot to the team and some of the critics want to open their eyes to that.

Sounds like a striker!
mortonjag 2008-04-06 11:49:02
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 6 2008, 11:05 AM) [snapback]430736[/snapback]
These are exactly the priorities I, and many others identified at the end of last season. The song remains the same.

All the strikers in the world won't make up for a lack of decent balls into the box. To put it differently, Graham, Spoonsy, and LEAFY, WOULD get goals if the supply was right. Our wing play is non existent, and if we're going to increase our options we need at least one PROPER winger.

I'm not arguing about the rest. We also still DESPERATELY need an experienced motivator, preferably to skipper the side.
mortonjag 2008-04-06 11:55:27
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 6 2008, 11:48 AM) [snapback]430749[/snapback]
Or maybe a lazy, unfit, underachiever who's only tolerated because we haven't got a better option.

David Irons chooses lazy, unfit, underachiever to captain the side! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-06 11:57:26 I thought Chris had a rather poor game yesterday. If he plays next Saturday, I'm sure he'll pull out the stops, but Jenkins should be fit, so who drops out?
mortonjag 2008-04-06 11:59:51
QUOTE(cappielowking @ Apr 6 2008, 11:57 AM) [snapback]430754[/snapback]
Fans having a go at a manager removing one they don't like how much of a suprise is that. Dougie Rae's magical Celtic fans theyre having a go at Strachan wanting him to be removed. Dougie Rae hasnae menetioned that wonder why. The Celtic fans want to remove Strachan and replace him with Tony Mowbray even though he has got them into the Last 16 of the champions league two years running. Old Firm Fans are never happy their too far above their station protentious b*****ds. What was wrong with us having a go at a manager who took 3 years to get out of a division were way to big for not showing any passion just wall leaning. Also in the process putting us in our present f***ed position.

Douglas Rae occasionally speaks sense I'm told.
mortonjag 2008-04-06 12:07:21
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Apr 6 2008, 11:59 AM) [snapback]430755[/snapback]
Can't say much about Graham as he doesn't get enough games to show what he's capable of but neither Weatherson or Offside are likely to be prolific in the 1st irrespective of supply.

That's clearly an opinion, and it depends very much on what you mean by prolific.

Both LEAFY and Spoonsy are capable of scoring a fair few goals at Division 1 level. I think our fans have largely resigned themselves to the ABSOLUTELY ABYSMAL service which is the norm those days at Cappielow.

Answer this honestly-how many DECENT crosses go into the box in an average game?

Furthermore it's reprehensible that we don't seem to have one midfielder with the wit to release a through ball properly.

JM's legacy is with us.
mortonjag 2008-04-06 12:12:14
QUOTE(cappielowking @ Apr 6 2008, 12:01 PM) [snapback]430760[/snapback]
Just one thing I will always be grateful to Dougie for saving us from extinction.

Rae did that because he wanted to. Rae does NOT do things BECAUSE the fans want them done.

It's a bit like saying' 'I will always be grateful to my Mother for bringing me into the world, despite the fact that she's abused me ever since'.
mortonjag 2008-04-06 12:21:25
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Apr 6 2008, 12:13 PM) [snapback]430771[/snapback]
Jenkins in for McGuffie, Mortonjag.

McGuffie has been OK in his last two games. Plenty of good stuff yesterday-he's a player you tend not to notice-quietly effective-just the opposite of Kev who is patently ineffective 75% of the time.
mortonjag 2008-04-06 12:22:44
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 6 2008, 12:14 PM) [snapback]430772[/snapback]
Aye, makes me wonder. Again, maybe only because there isn't a better option.

Greacen wasn't a BAD captain.
mortonjag 2008-04-06 12:25:03
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Apr 6 2008, 12:17 PM) [snapback]430773[/snapback]
ma burd cares aboot me

Are you old?
mortonjag 2008-04-06 17:44:17
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 6 2008, 12:41 PM) [snapback]430786[/snapback]
Well suddenly everything makes sense tongue.gif

My mother is a lovely person. As you very well know I devoted two months to making her a spanking new kitchen.

Fing is on his way to get you.

Pink botty time beckons.
mortonjag 2008-04-06 17:56:47
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Apr 6 2008, 12:27 PM) [snapback]430778[/snapback]
There's no doubt that service could be improved and you would hope that good forwards would benefit from that. However when Russell arrived the consistent comment from Brechin fans was that he didn't know the offside rule and that he'd miss far more good chances than he'll ever put away. Both of those comments are appear to be correct. To get caught offside so often suggests that he he is either lacking in intelligence or pace or both and forwards need to have one of those. To fail to put away chances when they come equally suggests that his skill as a striker is also fairly questionable and I think he's probably gone a division above his ability.

Weatherson is more disappointing as he clearly is a far better finisher but his all round fitness lets him down year after year. I doubt that after 5 seasons of not being able to maintain a decent level of fitness he is likely to change and it's more likely that whatever pace he has will reduce.

I agree that having a good midfileder who can release the right pass is important and sadly Stevenson who had that ability seems to have lost his way. However I doubt that either of our front 2 have the pace to exploit good service often enough to frighten too many defences in the first. If you add to them Templeman (no pace) and Linn (not much pace) then our record of signing forwards in recent times is pretty woeful. Hopefully Irons will do something about that.

It's quite simple-LEAFY both has pace and is intelligent.
Those are facts so you'll have to look elsewhere for reasons. Perhaps you could consider that like so many others whom we've signed in a 'blaze of publicity' he's never been played in a settled role.

Furthermore the Brechin fans were gutted to lose him. What they DID say was that-aye-he got caught offside as often as not but he was still well worth his place for his chance grabbing ability.
mortonjag 2008-04-06 18:00:14
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Apr 6 2008, 05:49 PM) [snapback]430879[/snapback]
Robinson 6- Must take a large share of the blame for the equaliser after a poor goal-kick, but otherwise a pretty solid display.

McGregor 8- Didn't put a foot wrong all game and won everything that required

McLaughlin 7- Solid performance and unlucky not to score for the second week running having hit the woodwork

Millar 7- Like McLaughlin, plenty of endeavour and a strong performance

Greacen 7- Comfortable performance, confidence seems to be returning which will be important in the end of the season (probably in the play-offs)

Harding 8- Very composed performance from Harding.

Finlayson 7- Lots of toil and work, but didn't get an awful lot of joy apart from persevering to set-up Weatherson

McGuffie 7- Quiet first half, but if you watch him on an individual level, his positioning is excellent and he was rarely beaten in the air all game. To be honest I think he is suffering the same way Templeman did when he first arrived because his languid style is mistaken for laziness.

Weatherson 6- Should have scored in the first half and other than that had a pretty quiet game. If we are going to line up with one central striker flanked by Kev and Jim next week, I would seriously consider playing Wake through the middle

Paartalu 8- Set up Jim's opener and worked like a trojan for the 90 minutes. Cracking long-throws are better than our corners and should be used to good effect against teams. Both he and McGuffie definately had the better of the Dundee midfield.

McAllister 8- Took his goal extremely well and looks a much more dangerous proposition when played in the more advanced and central role. The fact that both he and Finlayson are probably the fittest, quickest and most hard-working players in the team means that they are excellent at tracking back when playing in a more advanced role.

Davie had a fair game with his two or three usual gaffes! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-06 18:08:50
QUOTE(nani @ Apr 6 2008, 02:39 PM) [snapback]430832[/snapback]
Agree with Mr Edwards. It was a committed performance but we never looked like winning after they equalised. Weatherson was poor and unable to hold the ball up. However he was on his own and I fail to understand why we are persisting with 1 up when we need to win games.With Clyde to play Stirling at home it seems we will probably need at least 7 pts if not 9 from 9 to avoid the play offs. Given that we seem unable to score with any frequency and are still liable to glaring errors at the back I fail to see where the original posters confidence is emanating from. Oh and MJ....you got it wrong again....unfortunately.

We deserved to win, we could have won, and we SHOULD have won. Yet again, in the face of strong vocal support from the Dee lot, our fans were relatively muted compared to the hearty united voice at Palmerston last week.

They are the ones who got it wrong. Mortonjag is never wrong.
mortonjag 2008-04-06 18:12:39
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 6 2008, 04:12 PM) [snapback]430846[/snapback]
look how much better he's got since he hasn't had the weight of being captain on his shoulders, he can finally just concentrate on being a decent defender who does the basics right, and its working out well for him.

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If you check back darling, you'll find that I made exactly that point (about the Captaincy being too much for him) well over a year ago, and was, as always, 'rubished'.

I have never suggested he's a GOOD captain! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-06 18:19:19 The clock is symbolic of our current position-f*cked inner workings and stuck between one and two.
mortonjag 2008-04-06 18:20:13 Queer.
mortonjag 2008-04-06 18:26:09
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 6 2008, 12:24 PM) [snapback]430776[/snapback]
Is the fact that you're even asking this question not a good argument against euthanasia?

How easy it would be for a family to pressurise a vulnerable old person into ending their life prematurely by telling them they've become a burden.

Even more sinister could be families doing it to get their greedy hands on their inheritance a bit sooner than God or nature intended.

The morality of Pimpledick in a sentence! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-06 18:29:51
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 6 2008, 02:53 PM) [snapback]430835[/snapback]
cappielow-doc, it seems like it's in fact n-power who are guilty of the scams MJ is accusing you and SP of.

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/busi...icle3689797.ece

I think MJ just likes to tar everyone with the same brush to be confrontational. Don't let him wind you up pal, you don't have to justify how you earn a living to him or anyone else on here for that matter.

Pimpledick's morality in a sentence! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-06 18:35:07
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 6 2008, 06:23 PM) [snapback]430897[/snapback]
I await Fing with open arms tongue.gif

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Sometimes jocularity is out of place young man-your signature will soon have a partner. Fing has spoken.
mortonjag 2008-04-06 18:42:36
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Apr 6 2008, 06:24 PM) [snapback]430898[/snapback]
Well its a fact in the sense we all have pace, only to varying degrees. As to how much pace he has and indeed how much pace he needs to succeed at this level is both relative and subjective, not fact. As to whether or not he is intelligent, well I have never met the man nor have I any knowledge as to his academic qualifications or interests away from football and I suspect neither do you therefore it is not "fact" that he is intelligent only your opinion.

Can you never get anything right Ratarse. LEAFY is a bright lad and is currently half way through a college course.

As for pace-who at Cappielow could out sprint him over fifty yards except Shoogly in a scramble?
mortonjag 2008-04-06 20:23:12
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Apr 6 2008, 07:04 PM) [snapback]430917[/snapback]
Jim McAllister for starters.

So that's Shoogly and Jimbo-who else?
mortonjag 2008-04-06 20:26:00
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Apr 6 2008, 07:22 PM) [snapback]430926[/snapback]
By my reckoning, there are eight squad players out of contract this season - McGurn, Greacen, Harding, Finlayson, McLaughlin, Keenan, Gilbride and Walker - and the only ones I would even consider keeping are Harding and Walker. The rest have proven that, over a full season, they are not good enough for this level. I would also say the Club should buy out the contracts of McAnespie, Wake and Stevenson for the same reason.

TBH, my worry is that if we do go down we'll be tempted to offer some or all of these underachievers new contracts in an effort to get us back to the First at the first time of asking. This would be a mistake, as it has to be remembered most of these guys took four attempts to get us into the First and they certainly wouldn't keep us there even if they did succeed at the first time of asking this time. Better to take the hit now I say. I reckon we could see around 10 players leaving for pastures new in the summer. East Stirling anyone? smile.gif

I agree about Walker-strange how he can't seem to get a place when he's a better full back/midfielder than McGregor and McLaughlin!
mortonjag 2008-04-06 20:36:07
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Apr 6 2008, 08:02 PM) [snapback]430938[/snapback]
When? I honestly can't remember any major gaffes yesterday from Davie.

It was a fluffed clearance by McGregor straight to a Dundee player which led to Robinson's equally fluffed clearance which led to their first goal. More than once apart from that, when under no real pressure he just booted the ball upfield straight into the path of an oncoming opponent.
I've said it before-Davie is quite good at everything, and not very good at anything. I believe he gets undue praise and support because he's a good guy with a good attitude, but IMHO he's not division 1 material-FAR too slow for a start.
mortonjag 2008-04-06 20:48:57
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 6 2008, 08:21 PM) [snapback]430954[/snapback]
All it means NewTon is that I'm one of the very few sad bassas who actually read the bollox that you post. tongue.gif

Most people prefer the 'What are you/who are you? type threads, pimpleknob, but you have taste.

Sometimes I quite like you.
mortonjag 2008-04-07 06:36:12
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 6 2008, 10:32 PM) [snapback]431011[/snapback]
i expect he might be quite good at the long jump too huh.gif

and surely it's the opposition he needs to out-sprint?

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QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 6 2008, 10:36 PM) [snapback]431012[/snapback]
See how things change in football , never thought I'd be championing the calamity brothers but there recent displays show that they are better under Irons and if he had been here earlier we may have hd a better return .

Fullbacks are a must , and so are 2 strikers , a goalkeeper , another centre back to give options .

IMHO we need the strikers more than any wide player , from what I've watched recently there is simply not enough workrate from our current options .

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mortonjag 2008-04-07 06:44:31
QUOTE(kingtiffin @ Apr 6 2008, 10:58 PM) [snapback]431016[/snapback]
just heard that we have nock back a local team who are in the semi final of the scottish cup at under 19s and the game needs to be play at a senior ground. the offical statement was that after next weeks game they would be doing work on the ground the game is to be next sunday so the team have lost home advantage and the game goes to rugby park next sunday . this now adds more insults to the local teams when they are have a major day and they cant be help out shame on you all at the high level at cappielow. and when you run your under 19s next year i hope the 7 boys who could play for you tell you were to go, no wonder there is no youth coming our way, hang your heads in shame.

Forget all those clowns who as usual have knee jerked in support of the Club Kingtiffin.

PLEASE attempt to get a copy of Morton's response scanned and posted here. IF what you say is true, and ESPECIALLY if this favour was requested by an ex Morton player, it is is further evidence of the arrogant aloofness I've come to expect from the skint sugar Daddy.

mortonjag 2008-04-07 06:46:59
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 6 2008, 08:44 PM) [snapback]430962[/snapback]
robinson had the ball in his hands, dropped it and then kicked it out straight to their player. didn't he? you make me doubt myself more than any one man should MJ.

Your post is a direct result of your father's orgasm.
mortonjag 2008-04-07 06:50:48
QUOTE(stuart @ Apr 6 2008, 09:34 PM) [snapback]430986[/snapback]
Even our Rae was standing up and shouting by the looks of it, it must have been bad.

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You misunderstand-he was just grabbing the opportunity to pass some instructions to Davie Irons.
mortonjag 2008-04-07 06:55:17
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Apr 6 2008, 09:11 PM) [snapback]430971[/snapback]
wink.gif thanks smile.gif
Another funny thing happened yesterday. Dak, my fiancee returned for a 2nd match (more fool her). I thought she was feeling a bit cold so I went and got her a bovril. I said to her ''this drink, it's name is Bovvrill, you like'' ? and she replied...... ''Buffalo'' ???

Bos-bubalis =buffalo


Bos bovis = Bovril

Both derived from the Latin for 'Coo' WDE.

Do they study Latin in Thai schools? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-07 06:59:07
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 7 2008, 02:08 AM) [snapback]431068[/snapback]
i started at seven

7 am or 7 pm ?

centimetres.
mortonjag 2008-04-07 07:03:35
QUOTE(Muz @ Apr 6 2008, 11:08 PM) [snapback]431025[/snapback]
Was down at the battery this morning, watched the Under 17's against Clyde (massive team- what they feed them up there?)

Not ONE representative from Morton there- Jamie Stevenson was meant to take the team as far as I knew, and didnt turn up for one reason or another. Something to do with he's been told he wont be taking the team next year?

Some really good wee players in the Morton team- centre half number 5 (Jason something?) in particular and also wee Jamie Doc at right back, had great games.

Saddens me that there was NO coaches, compared to the Clyde bench with 3-4 coaches.

Anyone know anymore on this?

Was 1-0 to Clyde at half time when I left.

I'm led to believe there may have been a change in plans.If so WHY was the new system not in evidence.

Is it all just 'wait and see' right now? That sounds like a 'cop out' to me!

Get it sorted SHOOGLY/IRONS-whoever is in charge this time. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-07 07:18:04 Twelve hours on and not another post. I think Loyal Lass can safely assume that the majority of our posting genii have no interest in the elderly. That makes me very sad and VERY angry-do they imagine everybody over the age of sixty to be like Douglas Rae or Moira Salmond?

Oh well ---time for another drug crazed rampage through Shawlands knocking down everything in a baseball cap with one of their sticks.

Off to check Moby's battery.

mortonjag 2008-04-07 07:24:02
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Apr 6 2008, 09:55 PM) [snapback]430998[/snapback]
I put 3 GBP each way on Comply or Die and accepted the odds when the race started - how does that work, is it 3GBP on a win at the odds plus I lose the other 3GBP because it placed first??

What should I get back from the bookies?

£3 x 7 = £21 + £ 3 =£ 24 for the win.

Most bookies pay 1/5th odds for a places 1, 2, 3,and 4 on large field handicaps--so also

£3 x 7/5 = £4.20 + £ 3 = £7.20

Total back should be £31.20.
mortonjag 2008-04-07 07:27:39
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 7 2008, 12:36 AM) [snapback]431049[/snapback]
i love how you keep choosing to forget how you said you were going to London when you blatantly weren't, you even said people had misunderstood until someone found exactly what you said and then you ignored that post funnily enough. tongue.gif
London couldn't have been that good if you cant even remember going sad.giftongue.gif

Listen tootsie, as the prosecution, you're obliged to provide the evidence.


Now run of and find my blatantly 'tongue in cheek' comment, and paste it here. You may go to the toilet first if you wish. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-07 07:29:35
QUOTE(forza ton @ Apr 7 2008, 01:36 AM) [snapback]431062[/snapback]
i always found roger graham to be a nice geezer huh.gif
i feel sorry for c***s who have to sell a company's wares to earn a corn. t mobile tried it with me but as a socialist type i refused.... and took a 2 month sabbatical on full pay at the bequest of my doc. i hope their lawyers are watching. f***ing c***s. viva la quinta brigada

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You've got a tame quack then? tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-07 07:32:36
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Apr 6 2008, 09:52 PM) [snapback]430996[/snapback]
I don't - it was a joke doctor jag

Why didn't you say Ps3 then?
I'm led to believe that over energetic coitus may result in smoking, but have no personal experience of such.
mortonjag 2008-04-07 07:34:40 PUFE IN BOOTS
mortonjag 2008-04-07 07:39:57
QUOTE(SPL AND WE @ Apr 7 2008, 01:59 AM) [snapback]431064[/snapback]
IS HE FROM GREENOCK?

Yes of course he is you AIDS ridden skeleton, and jealousy will get you nowhere.

mortonjag 2008-04-07 08:15:07
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 7 2008, 07:50 AM) [snapback]431099[/snapback]
do they imagine everybody over the age of sixty to be like Douglas Rae or Moira Salmond?
or do they imagine everybody over the age of sixty to be like mortonjag ???

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Or do they have ANY imagination at all? sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-07 08:42:15
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 7 2008, 07:55 AM) [snapback]431103[/snapback]
I believe in the abolition for prescription charges and this is just the first step to achieving that , I fail to see why anyone should be against that.

Well, some folk might perfectly reasonably argue that a properly means tested system of charging for prescription only preparations would bring much needed income to the Health Service.

I believe in the abolition of prescription charges, mainly because the current system is divisive, patently discriminative, and grossly abused. I would, however, like to know whaich area of the Health Service will suffer to pay for the lost revenues, and MORE IMPORTANTLY, I want genuinely needy folk to benefit FIRST, if Sturgeon is having to stage the exercise.

mortonjag 2008-04-07 08:45:03
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 7 2008, 07:49 AM) [snapback]431098[/snapback]
A bear mauled a 50-year-old man to death on Japan's northern island of Hokkaido on the weekend, police said Monday.

Seiichi Horinuki, 50, was picking edible wild plants with one of his colleagues when he was attacked on Sunday afternoon, a police spokesman said.

Bears occasionally attack people gathering plants in rural Japan. This was the first fatal attack in Hokkaido this year, the spokesman said.

Following a request from the local authorities, hunters later shot and killed the brown bear believed to have attacked the man, local media reported.

The number of bears on Hokkaido is estimated to be between 1800 to 3600 and are not threatened there with extinction.

Farmers and other locals sometimes hunt bears in the area where the man was attacked to prevent them from ruining crops and intruding on residential areas.

Why was the bear shot for doing what comes naturally ?

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I have no problem with 'an eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth' Newt. That bear should definitely have been mauled to death by a fifty year old flower picker.
mortonjag 2008-04-07 08:46:08
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 7 2008, 07:52 AM) [snapback]431100[/snapback]
inches ?

millimetres ?

masturbometers?
mortonjag 2008-04-07 08:48:36
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 7 2008, 07:55 AM) [snapback]431102[/snapback]
"I hope we get to the end of the season with a bit of dignity and pride to leave for whoever, we hope, takes over at the club."

Mick Wadsworth
dignity and pride ? ?

I cannot see them in the same sentence as Brooks Mileson.

Pony Tail has been INCREDIBLY successful in avoiding publicity and flak since this joke of an administration was implemented.

Maybe he's DEID! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-07 08:50:04
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 7 2008, 08:01 AM) [snapback]431104[/snapback]
Is not Derek Collins in charge ?

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Derek Collins wasn't there! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-07 08:57:38
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 7 2008, 08:36 AM) [snapback]431107[/snapback]
How you know the groundsman doesn't have long put in place plans for that Sunday for working on the pitch? Have you seen our pitch? It is in excellent condition, so surely must be worked on quite regularly.

But of course...any chance to blame Dougie get's your blood flowing to the wrong places!



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Listen bratlet-it's becoming far too common for you to attack MJ for asking PERTINENT questions. Did Shoogly buy you a set of bagpipes for kissing his arse?

I have blamed NOBODY.

A poster has had 'a go' at the club, and I have asked him to paste a copy of the alleged refusal.

IF what he claims is true and Morton have no reasonable excuse, it IS further evidence that RAE gives ne'er a f*ck about anything or anybody but himself.

mortonjag 2008-04-07 09:25:54
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Apr 7 2008, 09:17 AM) [snapback]431116[/snapback]
Can't believe I was accused earlier of 'going to a fancy dress party' when I'm an adult wearing adult shoes!! Grown men wearing gym kit when not exercising seems odd to me. rolleyes.gif

There's the clue!
mortonjag 2008-04-07 09:31:19
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 7 2008, 09:18 AM) [snapback]431117[/snapback]
And if it isn't true, you still got your wee dig in at Dougie...we're so proud not surprised

'We're so not surprised' are we so not? Well bless my cotton bedsock! And youse studying at a proper University an a'.

QUOTE(cmdc @ Apr 7 2008, 09:21 AM) [snapback]431119[/snapback]
Hasn't the reasonable excuse already been posted? That they are doing work on the ground on the day in question?

I said 'pasted'-NOT 'posted'. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-07 09:33:51
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Apr 7 2008, 09:23 AM) [snapback]431120[/snapback]
Don't you ever get fed up being wrong? tongue.gif

Mortonjag is NEVER wrong. LEAFY was not on for 90 minutes. Mortonjag was cheated.
mortonjag 2008-04-07 09:35:54
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Apr 7 2008, 09:30 AM) [snapback]431123[/snapback]
Clue?
What?
Eh?

Don't be obtuse McArthur-only weans wear trainers as dress shoes.
mortonjag 2008-04-07 16:33:56
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Apr 7 2008, 01:11 PM) [snapback]431200[/snapback]
And sometimes we have arseholes like this.
http://www.inverclydenow.com/news-detail4.asp?ID=1412
Anyone caught doing this should be put in front of vigilante's in a room to themselves and sort the b*****d out.

....and I'll tell you something Gibby-every generation has its 'baddies' but that would NEVER have been tolerated in my day.

Damian's law!

Birch the brats within an inch of their lives, AND any social worker who squeals in protest! mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-13 14:20:18
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 12 2008, 08:15 PM) [snapback]433374[/snapback]
actually, i slipped them a fiver to take the old duffer away tongue.gif

Good afternoon sweet trumpet-you'll be delighted to know that I have slipped them a tenner to let me back out! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-13 14:22:46
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Apr 13 2008, 02:07 AM) [snapback]433521[/snapback]
Too early to ask the question?
We find ourselves here because the head bummer and his manager felt that the team we had were good enough to stay in the first division.

Most of our fans were lulled into a false sense of security during the first quarter of the season, in all subsequent quarters we were in decline.

We changed the management team too late and brought in players who were no better than what we had, in some instances - they were worse.

If we survive in the first division it will be down purely to the effort of David Irons and Derek Collins - Douglas Rae had to change the management team because of McInally's resignation.
In my humble opinion - we need fresh blood at a senior level - that's where true change starts.

The fools should have listened to Mortonjag-will anybody ever learn? Rae is now a liability.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 14:35:59
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 13 2008, 01:31 AM) [snapback]433517[/snapback]
One Davie Irons? That's self evident.
Improvement? Yes.
Massive improvement? You've got to be at the kidding.
I wish Irons and Collins all the best but it's too early to judge (I'm sure the both of them would agree). I wonder if they'll want to stay if we go down. In the meantime, they'll get my support. C'Mon the Ton! We've got to stay in this division, by hook or by crook.

It's less than a year since over 75% has full confidence in JM. Such is the wit of the average Ton fan!

Only time will tell. The target was escaping relegation, and so far the KPI's are poor.

I DO believe DI is motivating the squad better, but the results still ain't coming. Could that indicate that he's no better than JM in other departments? huh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-13 14:50:36
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Apr 13 2008, 02:38 PM) [snapback]433685[/snapback]
Motivated or not, Irons is still stuck with JM's squad and it's their lack of quality that has us at the arse-end of the table.

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Well you may have noticed that Mr Irons played Spoonsy up front alone yesterday for 45 precious minutes-AND against Kevin James.

'Fraid it's not quite as simple as you put it. It's FAR too easy to still blame JM, though the deficiencies are not making it easier for the new boys.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 14:57:34
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 13 2008, 02:00 PM) [snapback]433676[/snapback]
Feck the captains armband , none of them are captian material .
Weather son leads by example ??? is that why we are gash ??
MacGregor decent lad but hardly intimidating .

Give it to McGuffie at least that would give him an excuse for being on the park .

We need to win on Saturday no other result will do . At least that would give us a chance on the last day of the season .

Sorry for the rant but its getting that nothing else is worth talking about

If we had a proper captain of the 'do or die' quality we'd have won yesterday-AND at Palmerston, AND at Broadwood etc., etc.

Even when we ARE motivated, we have an amazing ability to run round in circles. We need a leader on the park. David McGregor, incidentally, is not first division quality-nice lad-great work ethic, but no pace, and 'loses it' under pressure.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 15:02:18
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Apr 13 2008, 12:50 PM) [snapback]433647[/snapback]
The Scottish executive, Scottish government, wasters in Edinburgh seem to be looking after the ned vote.

Clicky

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A fatal stab would disnae need any stitches Mr Bam-would the perpetrator go free?

Effin loonies! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-13 15:05:39
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Apr 13 2008, 09:08 AM) [snapback]433558[/snapback]
Also good to see the SNP cuddling up to Mr Brian Souter. "What was the first thing that attracted you to the millionaire bigot and homophobe Mr Salmond?"

His big shiny ring.

QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Apr 13 2008, 12:19 PM) [snapback]433628[/snapback]
I beg to differ. Can't see independence this side of my 50th birthday.

While there is even a 50/50 split on what the country wants then I can't see the groundswell of change we need. The latest poll taken, with Labour at an all time low in Scotland and the Nationalist cause in the ascendency still shows a half and half interest at best in making change. The only way from here is backwrds me worries.

TonInDublin

Nor I!
mortonjag 2008-04-13 15:15:36
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Apr 13 2008, 03:03 PM) [snapback]433693[/snapback]
Mr Irons took corrective action in the second half to good effect, unfortunately the damage had been done - and by JM's faulty defence if reports are to be believed!

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Up until yesterday everybody seemed to think the defence was 'sorted'. The 'corrective' action resulted in an unspectacular goal from Wakey, and a good penalty from LEAFY after a needless handball. Otherwise Main had f*ck all to do in the second half. Finlayson yet again worked his baws off with no final product as did Jimbo while Walker and Stevenson were virtually unused.

As I've said, time will tell, but I've seen nothing imaginative or tactically innovative since Irons came here. Again yesterday I worried about Robinson's presence in the box-all three St Johnstone goals came from crosses.

IMO what he HAS achieved is a wee bit of self belief, which will hopefully see us through the play offs.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 15:25:19
QUOTE(stubaws @ Apr 12 2008, 05:47 PM) [snapback]433311[/snapback]
yes we were, after the clyde loss we were 9th

davie irons has been a breath of fresh air, was a bit sceptical of the appointment at first but i am delighted we have him and i think if he can get us through the playoffs we could have a right good season next year. within about 5 minutes of being in charge he identified the problems with our squad that jim couldnt over 3 years or however long it was. i am very happy with him in charge, too little too late now though to avoid the playoffs. we need the bottle merchant players to stand up and be counted for if we're to survive them, i aint holding my breath

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QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Apr 12 2008, 06:27 PM) [snapback]433323[/snapback]
mcinally should have left long, long before he did and irons hasn't really done anything fantastic since he has arrived. Yes i know they are not all players of his choosing but its his choice to keep playing players like weatherson who brings nothing to the team. Playing one useless striker up front when we desperately need the points is not good enough and was glaringly obvious today.


Very true.


QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 12 2008, 07:32 PM) [snapback]433349[/snapback]
if i can play devil's advocate for a moment, i'd point out that davie irons' record is actually worse than mcinally's. ohmy.gif

he's won 1 game from 9 and got 7 points. that would extrapolate to 28 points from 36 games. mcinally won 6 games from 24 and got 24 points. that would extrapolate to 36 points from 36 games. play-off form either way of course. (mcinally's last 9 games were however dire: 1 win and 4 points - automatic relegation form).

our problem is that we can't win games. so far neither can irons (stirling excepted).

he'll get his ultimate test in the play-offs though. results-driven business, anyone? tongue.gif


Indeed.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 15:35:02
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Apr 12 2008, 09:26 PM) [snapback]433433[/snapback]
The Douglas Rae Fund of General Incompetence, if you will please. smile.gif


Disrespectful and inaccurate-the old clown is a past master of cleaning his own dentures.



QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 12 2008, 11:20 PM) [snapback]433485[/snapback]
mortonjag could and would if he was not MIA.

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Mr Rae could indeed be described as a 'basket'.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 16:10:01
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Apr 13 2008, 04:01 PM) [snapback]433719[/snapback]
If we shot them would the streets be safe?
I'd be interested to see the drug offences that are being reduced.

It is indeed a 'cop out'. What ever happened to deterrence?

Birch the little pink botties I say-cheap and effective-oh and if it pleases 'oor maisters' ,we could simultaneously brand said erses with a lion rampant. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-13 16:12:04
QUOTE(simple_ton @ Apr 13 2008, 04:09 PM) [snapback]433723[/snapback]
I once had a till attendant refuse to accept a Scottish note inthe London Natural History Museum cafeteria - I took a bite out of what I'd ordered and said that she would just have to take it back as that was the only money I had! Of course, she accepted the note then laugh.gif

Once bitten-twice shy! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-13 16:16:00
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 13 2008, 03:37 PM) [snapback]433703[/snapback]
Davie Irons

played 9
won 1
drew 4
Lost 4

the 4 we lost were to the top three teams in the league. three of them were by one goal.

Mcinally's last 9 league games

Played 9
won 1
drew 1
lost 7

the teams Iron's drew with were Livingston, Clyde, Partick and QOS. In Mcinally's last 9 games we were beaten by three of those teams, 6-1, 3-0 at home and 2-1 at home by the worst side at cappielow this season. Not to mention also being beaten again by QOS in the cup.

Not to mention confidence was at an all time low when Iron's came in and had to try and get their confidence up and also the fact that most of the players just aren't good enough.

anyone who thinks that we are not harder to beat is blind, and even the stats show that we are. There has been much improvement considering he's had no tools at his disposure to improve with.

edited to add : the only thing that stopped us from winning the games we drew under Iron's is induvidual errors and missed penalties, something which Iron's has no control over.

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I'm led to believe the Chairman has frequently offered his assistance.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 16:23:04
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 13 2008, 04:19 PM) [snapback]433737[/snapback]
by doing what? giving him the money to sign one Gretna player? he's hardly going to change out fortunes with that. Dougie will help Iron's out in the summer but with the transfer window being closed there was nothing he could do to help.

and instead of highlighting one sentence from a long post and ignoring the things that prove you wrong like you always do why not give admitting you are wrong a go? wink.gif

people might respect you more.

What the hell are you blabbering about now.For a start I have all the respect I desire from those who matter in my life!

Now-where am I wrong? I wasn't conscious of having made any earth shattering pronouncement. DI has improved things-was that difficult? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-13 16:26:15
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 13 2008, 03:59 PM) [snapback]433717[/snapback]
Donga, I'll put my hand up now and admit I'm not an expert, but I suspect that getting angry while cracking one off to a Kylie video may be indicadive of deep rooted emotional and/or psychological problems. unsure.gif

Very true.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 16:30:26
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 13 2008, 04:26 PM) [snapback]433741[/snapback]
I'm no hun, Three Hooses. I have no truck with bigotry. You know what a bigot is don't you? It's a very small mided person who can categorise 50,000 people as 'vermin' without even knowing them. And the best of luck to you as well, ya Pape basher. tongue.gif

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Gentlemen-enough of this tomfoolery. Why have we all gone anti vermin?

Rodents, like monkeys, vipers, and plankton,have just as much right to existence as humanity-some might argue more.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 16:32:21
QUOTE(Muz @ Apr 11 2008, 03:18 PM) [snapback]432729[/snapback]
Heading up there tomorrow to see the Stones/Scorcese "Shine a Light"

Booked a leather sofa, you can also get a glass of wine/bee etc when the film is on. Never been- anyone on here been?

Was up there last week and the late night Friday/Saturday film was "The Lost Boys"- wasnt allowed to go in!!!

This week the late night film is "Ghostbusters"!!!!!

Might try and stay up for that!!!

Beats that dump in Greenock anyways!!!

Anyone been?

Aye in 1972, when it was known as the 'fleapit' -can't remember what was on or who was with me.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 16:35:48
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 13 2008, 02:58 AM) [snapback]433530[/snapback]
are you psychotic then ?

sorry, psychic ?

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Dead, I think!
mortonjag 2008-04-13 16:40:24
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 13 2008, 04:36 PM) [snapback]433751[/snapback]
considering you spend 90% of your time on here shows that you crave our respect more than anybody tongue.gif

you are Iron's biggest critic on here, infact in your last post you laughed at someone who said Iron's had identified the weaknesses in our team, agreed that he was stupid to play weatherson up front himself yesterday (which incidentely he realised and changed at half time) and agreed that its a results driven business, despite stats proving that his results have been better than Mcinallys.

so yes, you are wrong. and if you spent half as much time realising other people have valid points and that sometimes you are wrong as you do highlighting insignificant parts of posts in fuschia deflecting from the main points of the post then you'd be half as smart a man as you wrongly think you are.

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mortonjag 2008-04-13 16:44:45
QUOTE(mentalton @ Apr 13 2008, 10:52 AM) [snapback]433589[/snapback]
What happens to players when they sign for Morton, I mean the likes of Jenkins, I watched him against Celtic just before he signed for us and he was absolutely outstanding, stick a Morton top on him and he becomes average, guys like him should be sticking out like sore thumbs in our team but they dont. Same goes for McGuffie, great player at Gretna, put him in a Morton top and boom, mr average.

The only player who has come afresh under Mr Irons tutelage is Pantaloons,and he's actually been pretty good IMHO.

I'd hate this to seem like praise for Mr Irons, mind you, as some clot has just claimed I'm his biggest critic, which indeed I am not. Simply one of life's seasoned realists! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-13 16:56:28
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 13 2008, 04:35 PM) [snapback]433747[/snapback]
I don't like the SNP - do support independence - do love Scotland, and unlike you, have a love for the Scottish people (well most of them anyway). tongue.gif

Was Mabon a REAL doctor- I mean a specialist in quackery or just another Labour fud like Dr John Reid?
mortonjag 2008-04-13 17:04:57
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 13 2008, 04:57 PM) [snapback]433765[/snapback]
Agree about Paartalu doing well maybe the anchor man we need , unfortunately we also need better players in nearly every position .

I thought you were Dougies biggest critic or has his performances been so inept you feel too much competition from others on the boards ??? laugh.gif

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I think the hard work's been done on Shoogly Chris. Nobody REALLY believes in him any more. The old fud is played out, and of not much more use to the club now that a used Fudgy Wudgy.

Bring on Alistair Donald and real


MUNNY
mortonjag 2008-04-13 17:08:03
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 13 2008, 05:05 PM) [snapback]433769[/snapback]
You can't be tactically innovative if players can't do the basics .

Putting some self belief must have been hard to do since the players have been under McInally and his retarded coaching and tactics for 3 years .

Then replace the ones who can't with the other ones who can't-worth a try-NO? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-13 18:07:05
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Apr 13 2008, 02:13 PM) [snapback]433681[/snapback]
No, but these boys play week in and week out around Inverclyde, my nephew plays up front for them and was taken to Ibrox last season for a whole week with Rangers youth team!

Makes you wonder eh!? so much local talent and nobody to look at it and drive for a cracking youth policy which will aid our future aspirations!

One day - I just need a significant Euromillions rollover lottery win!

Mr Rae has made it eminently clear that if people want to have the privilege of Morton's patronage, they 'should let the club know'.

Indeed he will welcome youngsters to come for trials, PROVIDED THEY MEET THEIR OWN EXPENSES.

Mr Rae is rapidly approaching octogenarianism.

It shows.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 18:11:14
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Apr 13 2008, 05:44 PM) [snapback]433776[/snapback]
Under Irons/Collins we have improved vastly. Once the next season comes, with the right funding, Irons will no doubt bring in talent that will do a job for us. Hes doing his best with Mcinallys squad, however, no1 tells someone how to kick a ball on the park. The players should be doing the job with or without a new manager.
Anyway, the defence has improved greatly so thats one positive.

Roll on next season tongue.gif

Improved-yes!
mortonjag 2008-04-13 18:28:31
QUOTE(carlito @ Apr 12 2008, 11:35 PM) [snapback]433493[/snapback]
Oh aye, I did actually. But that was just an old song with a new player's name stuck in there, hardly very original! tongue.gif

...but it WAS extremely amusing, considering the fact that poor Wakey's been rubbished since the day he arrived!
mortonjag 2008-04-13 18:30:37
QUOTE(stubaws @ Apr 13 2008, 06:21 PM) [snapback]433793[/snapback]
totally agree, a waste of a wage. let the manager identify who he wants and set a limit on the fee (if any) to be paid. focus on the youth set up and getting coaches for that rather than an unnescessary director of football

Mark Farrell for Stadium Director.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 18:33:16
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Apr 13 2008, 06:23 PM) [snapback]433794[/snapback]
Roseanna Cunningham and Alex Neil would be a waste of bullets.
To think there are yet people jailed for witholding fines and other financial crime shows the madness of the current system.

That's a bit simplistic-some large scale 'financial crimes' have huge knock on effects. Physical violence is only one form of assault.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 18:35:09
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Apr 13 2008, 06:21 PM) [snapback]433792[/snapback]
If "the history of the Marxist-Leninist African Republic of Benin" isn't a good subject title for a New Labour bulldog's doctorate, then I don't know what is.
The irony of his Celtic chairmanship is plain to see.

Dr Dahomey I presume!
mortonjag 2008-04-13 18:36:56
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Apr 13 2008, 06:34 PM) [snapback]433809[/snapback]
Personally I think there are other methods of punishment other than incarceration.
Not your rather disturbing methods, I might add.

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Disturbing!

Punishment's MEANT to be disturbing boy.

Pink botty time for you.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 18:42:52
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Apr 13 2008, 04:59 PM) [snapback]433767[/snapback]
Dunno. Would love to see one. Big dinner once a year admitting three or four ex players/managers/officials and the like.

Lindberg, Ritchie, Hawke and McGraw please smile.gif

and MortonJag's monkey.

Mortonjag's monkey's testimonials are a private matter.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 19:32:53
QUOTE(Alibi @ Apr 13 2008, 06:54 PM) [snapback]433827[/snapback]
No, don't have one of those. I wear my Morton bunnet to Queens games. Also to Hampden yesterday as it seems it may be a lucky bunnet for Queens. I wore it to Cappielow for the second league game and the cup game, and Queens won both. I didn't wear it to Palmerston for either of our league games there and we won one and drew the other. I have worn it to several other Queens games this season at Palmerston and Queens have won the lot. My neighbours, who are Queens fans, insisted that I wear it yesterday and it did the trick. Definitely wearing it to the final...

It would (slightly) make up for our league cup final defeat if the Doonhamers beat the Huns because your Morton bunnet!
mortonjag 2008-04-13 19:36:55
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Apr 13 2008, 06:59 PM) [snapback]433828[/snapback]
I would like to see them tackle the root causes of anti-social behaviour including more emphasis on social responsibility. The wheels were set in motion with Thatcher's "no such thing as society" principles and have been further compounded by New Labour's political correctness policies coupled with their abandonement of true socialist principles. The fact is if we were to jail everyone who deserves it in the eyes of the law, we would have to build a huge number of new prisons every year.

Some would herald that as an excellent idea-creating much needed work, though I still believe that simple spanking of pink botties is much more cost effective.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 19:42:29
QUOTE(midTONs @ Apr 12 2008, 08:05 PM) [snapback]433367[/snapback]
I agree that the play-offs should be abolished but when only one team from a league is being automatically promoted then only one team should be automatically relegated. If there is to be a play-off system it should only be between 2nd bottom and 2nd top.

Too sensible for the powers that be! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-13 19:45:23
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 13 2008, 04:56 PM) [snapback]433763[/snapback]
You're in denial Three Hooses.
The sooner you admit you have a problem, the sooner you can get help.

He hasn't listened-he's off to inspect more title deeds in some smoke filled Belgian brothel.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 19:51:54 McGurn




Walker Harding Greacen Keenan



McAlister Stevenson McGuffie Pantaloons



Weatherson LEAFY


Subs: Millar Wake Finlayson McGregor Wee Ginger Nuts







mortonjag 2008-04-13 19:55:57
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Apr 13 2008, 07:51 PM) [snapback]433845[/snapback]
You can disable avatars. wink.gif

WTF IS it anyway?
mortonjag 2008-04-13 19:57:52
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Apr 13 2008, 07:56 PM) [snapback]433855[/snapback]
And to think you constantly pilloried McInally for his team selections... rolleyes.gif

What is wrong with my team selection?
mortonjag 2008-04-13 19:59:48
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 13 2008, 07:47 PM) [snapback]433841[/snapback]
Don't bother phoning her for that. Perhaps you may want to phone her for backing the application, just like the SNP,Labour and Lib-Dem parties.
That's right ALL of them are in favour of this application going through !

Which must SURELY prove it's a crazy idea! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-13 20:03:12
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Apr 13 2008, 07:59 PM) [snapback]433860[/snapback]
What's annoying about it?

I agree with Deego. Anybody who uses the huff button AND an avatar like that has SERIOUS problems with identity.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 20:04:54
QUOTE(midTONs @ Apr 13 2008, 08:01 PM) [snapback]433864[/snapback]
FFS Alex Ferguson couldn't motivate that team Irons inherited, you moan talk about the Jag moaning, if I didn't know you I would swear you were a woman.

How WELL do you know it?
mortonjag 2008-04-13 20:06:57
QUOTE(leyTON @ Apr 13 2008, 08:02 PM) [snapback]433866[/snapback]
if it helps,i do take that backl

It WON'T help.

Pugglet has been in a troublemaking mood for some time!
mortonjag 2008-04-13 20:09:06
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Apr 13 2008, 08:05 PM) [snapback]433872[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

I am really a sea creature with tentacles for a beard. biggrin.gif
BTW - It's Davy Jones from the Pirates of the Carribean films.

I am really a wee creature with testicles on my beard.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 20:11:43
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Apr 13 2008, 08:00 PM) [snapback]433862[/snapback]
We have a back 4 that has been pretty decent of late, you want to go reshuffling to accomodate two players that have barely featured this season. You want to play Paartalu, a defensive midfielder at left-mid, and have McGuffie in before Millar. You have Weatherson up front instead of Wake, who changed the game for us at St. Johnstone.



QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 13 2008, 08:02 PM) [snapback]433865[/snapback]
Walker hasn't played since December.
Keenan is s***e, basically, and is right footed.
Paartalu is never a left midfielder.
Weatherson has been s***e for months.
You have 'Wee Ginger Nuts' on the bench.
Finlayson is also never a footballer therefore should be nowhere near the bench.
Oh, and WAKEY isn't starting! smile.gif

Sorry gents-I am but an old fud.

I thought this was just a game of 'play the manager'!
mortonjag 2008-04-13 20:16:05
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Apr 13 2008, 07:54 PM) [snapback]433850[/snapback]
Noticed that too, good to see that he's got the confidence to want to take such a crucial penalty. I also noticed that that chancer McGuffie seemed to want to take it was well, he's got a bloody cheek considering his last one was an idiotc playground effort. Actually, wait...McGuffie and effort in the same sentence? Some mistake, surely!
Anyway, play-offs: It's a farce. If there must be some sort of play-off it should be 3rd top vs 3rd bottom, with the standard 2 up, 2 down. 4th place is pretty much a mid-table finish in a league of 10, I fail to see why such averageness should be rewarded with an extra bite at the cherry.

WTF is there not a designated penalty taker. SURELY MR IRONS would have sorted that out!


In fact I believe LEAFY was meant to take it!
mortonjag 2008-04-13 20:17:35
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Apr 13 2008, 08:16 PM) [snapback]433890[/snapback]
Wait ..... didn't Russell miss his last penalty too? Still, don't let the facts get in he way of a good story. laugh.gif laugh.gif

Don't be a pr*ck Smiffy-LEAFY'S was well saved!
mortonjag 2008-04-13 20:19:31
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Apr 13 2008, 08:14 PM) [snapback]433886[/snapback]
Wonder why half of those games were against the huns? dry.gif

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mortonjag 2008-04-13 20:21:40
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 13 2008, 08:09 PM) [snapback]433877[/snapback]
He was a genuine quack MJ, in addition to being another proto-New Labour fud like Reid.

TY Mr Edwards- a primaeval Deuchar, if you will, but no loss to the profession I'd imagine!
mortonjag 2008-04-13 20:24:05
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Apr 13 2008, 08:09 PM) [snapback]433880[/snapback]
Can't believe the thread starter did not include that line.
Harsh nothing (I felt he was being kind) - they and their green brothers across the city really are the lowest form of life.

Dismissive is this gentleman-thoughtlessly dismissive-all Ton fans are presumably God incarnate! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-13 20:26:52
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 13 2008, 08:16 PM) [snapback]433891[/snapback]
I'm thinking there will be no shortage of applicants for that job, and I'm presuming you've got your CV all typed and ready to go.



Not really Mr Edwards-I may well have seen more little pink botties in my time than you've had decent cups of tea.

Mind you-if they OFFERED me the job!!!!!
mortonjag 2008-04-13 20:45:49
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 13 2008, 08:28 PM) [snapback]433908[/snapback]
I'm happy to stick with the tea thanks.

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mortonjag 2008-04-13 20:50:42
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 13 2008, 08:44 PM) [snapback]433923[/snapback]
Jeezo, 'Three Hooses' is on the Freedom Train bound for glory. He'll be singing a duet with Nickerless accompanied by Eck on the tambourine. Will Soapy Souter be blowing horns I wonder. laugh.gif

Soapy will be horny-Nickerless will be 'blowing' and Eck will be looking on in amazement and thoughts of Moira.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 20:53:21
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Apr 13 2008, 08:51 PM) [snapback]433932[/snapback]
answers in order......

Year 2000 (v reg)

Light purple (quite nice colour)

No 2nd remote, but spare key wih seat emblem. the battery was £5 from halfords

I don't know if that lot are just 'takin the piss' Flight! It's perfectly possible that there's nothing wrong with your remote, and that the central unit has packed in.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 20:55:24
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Apr 13 2008, 08:51 PM) [snapback]433933[/snapback]
I think that if they cut the taxation on petrol / diesel, fags, booze, and used the following slogan in their manifesto's "Bigger c**ks for men and shorter periods for wummin!" I think the SNP would have it sewn up for life lol rolleyes.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif ....and new skins for old!
mortonjag 2008-04-13 21:00:18
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Apr 13 2008, 08:58 PM) [snapback]433945[/snapback]
True ...but suicide is not a subject to laugh about IS IT

Nope Flight-it's deadly serious.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 21:02:36
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 13 2008, 08:23 PM) [snapback]433902[/snapback]
It is, but you're not very good! :)
Haha! smile.gif

You can't prove that until my selection is tried!
mortonjag 2008-04-13 21:05:03
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 13 2008, 08:57 PM) [snapback]433942[/snapback]
we do, which is why im hoping we reach the next step next week.

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Stepping, young man is NOT sprinting!
mortonjag 2008-04-13 21:09:36
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 13 2008, 08:25 PM) [snapback]433905[/snapback]
Mentaljag admits to Jainism.

It's hardly an admission Mr Edwards-Homo Sapiens was named by Homo Sapiens.

My soul mates Munx and Fing bring me much solace!
mortonjag 2008-04-13 21:14:41
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Apr 13 2008, 09:08 PM) [snapback]433955[/snapback]
Apart from the 7 points from 9 games that Irons has got, compared with McInally's remarkable haul of 4 from his last 9.
Hence improvement.

Improvement cannot be argued-survival was the target!
mortonjag 2008-04-13 21:16:55
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 13 2008, 09:10 PM) [snapback]433957[/snapback]
sprinting is a series of fast steps tongue.gif

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aye-like the long jump is a series of hobbles!
mortonjag 2008-04-13 21:19:23
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Apr 13 2008, 09:16 PM) [snapback]433961[/snapback]
Irons was given a duff hand by the previous regime and chairman.
We're still on course for survival.

HE F*CKIN' APPLIED FOR THE DUFF HAND YOU EEJIT! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-13 21:26:36
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Apr 13 2008, 09:20 PM) [snapback]433965[/snapback]
Your point is?

rolleyes.gif

My point IS that you are making excuses. Did David Irons know what he was applying for or did he not?

He TOOK a duff hand if you will!
mortonjag 2008-04-13 21:35:28
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Apr 13 2008, 07:00 PM) [snapback]433829[/snapback]
Lee Evans - a poor man's Norman Wisdom, much in the same way Billy Connolly made an entire career out of ripping off Chic Murray.

Edit to add Norman Wisdon wasn't that funny either.



QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 13 2008, 08:36 PM) [snapback]433913[/snapback]
Neither was Norman Wisdom. laugh.gif
Connolly the fraud and friend of the royals ripped off the great Matt McGinn. I doubt if Connolly could deliver a Chic Murray line.

Neither Chic Murray (an extremely witty man) nor Matt McGinn (a rare talent) had Connolly's ability to rapport with a huge audience of Glaswegians in his early days. The Big Yin was a one off and a brilliant entertainer before he followed the money trail.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 21:41:07
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Apr 13 2008, 09:28 PM) [snapback]433972[/snapback]
Still - what's your point?
He took on the challenge and he isn't doing too badly given the squad he inherited.

Correct-he was not 'given it' as you claimed.

QUOTE(vikingTON @ Apr 13 2008, 09:29 PM) [snapback]433973[/snapback]
Yes, most likely with the intention of sorting it in the summer, when he has the option to sign players.
Quite a big tool in shaping a team.
Or are you just being a complete tosser for no obvious reason?

Well he'll look bloody stupid if he doesn't get the chance!

QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 13 2008, 09:30 PM) [snapback]433974[/snapback]
you sir are an idiot, and coming from me that is possibly the biggest insult you will ever recieve.


It is, in fact, a very poor attempt. I have been called much worse by bigger fools than your goodself!
mortonjag 2008-04-13 21:49:43
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Apr 13 2008, 09:47 PM) [snapback]433979[/snapback]
Should have been a question mark, but the point stands. Rowan clearly just pissed someone off.

.....and there has been much weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth ever since!
mortonjag 2008-04-13 22:00:05 The monkey, fing, and I have been discussing death.

How do you good Ton followers feel about this inevitability?

Are you feart of the big fiery furnace?

Do you expect to sit at God's right hand on high?

Are you happy to become the contents of an urn, or would you rather give the worms a wee treat?

Whatever-sleep well!
mortonjag 2008-04-13 22:03:22
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Apr 13 2008, 09:59 PM) [snapback]433984[/snapback]
Doubt it Col, all of the other parties want Eck to answer to the parliament for his plutocratic sycophancy. tongue.gif

Licking the arses of all and sundry for the less well educated!
mortonjag 2008-04-13 22:04:00
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Apr 13 2008, 10:01 PM) [snapback]433986[/snapback]
You're a cheery c*** tonight, aren't you? tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-04-13 22:06:31
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Apr 13 2008, 09:58 PM) [snapback]433983[/snapback]
Wiznae too long ago we wuz part time in the premier league.

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mortonjag 2008-04-13 22:08:16
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Apr 13 2008, 10:05 PM) [snapback]433989[/snapback]
As I have said before, my wishes are that no-one goes to any expense. I just want to be put in the wheelie bin on a Tuesday morning.

The murder investigation will cost an arm and a leg...............


at least!
mortonjag 2008-04-13 22:14:36
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 13 2008, 10:07 PM) [snapback]433991[/snapback]
So that's why you havn't been posting! You three got an excellent bag of hash and got baked over the last week laugh.gif

You and the monkey I am shocked...fing I am not surpirsed!

blink.gif


Hash!

We'd be better off snorting dessicated Fudgy Wudgys!
mortonjag 2008-04-13 22:18:12
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 13 2008, 10:14 PM) [snapback]433993[/snapback]
What ever is the most enviromentally friendly , after my cadaver has been butchered by some spotty wannabe Motonjag the third



Aye Chris-'leaving one's body to medical science' is a euphemism for six nappy rash medics kiddin' on they're studying anatomy, while discussing their latest 'conquests' or the price of a pint of lager.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 22:20:31
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 13 2008, 10:19 PM) [snapback]433997[/snapback]
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Its a f***in' pop song ya daft auld fanny. laugh.gif

It is indeed a true revolutionary anthem pimpledick.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 22:25:24
QUOTE(SramTon @ Apr 13 2008, 10:19 PM) [snapback]433998[/snapback]
I still think the way to go is to have a combination of PT and FT players when/if in Div2.

We currently have many FT players who could easily be replaced by PT equivalents for a div2 campaign, and at a fraction of the cost.

IF we end up in division 2 again, Rae might as well pack his bags and let us get on with things. That, I believe, would inevitably lead to a part time structure. Full time status only made sense if we had a structured plan and ambitions for profitability. It would seem that we have been sold down the river by a doddering old fool with limited resources.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 22:27:54
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 13 2008, 10:25 PM) [snapback]434003[/snapback]
Got all my affairs in order because you just don't know when the Grim Reaper - or 'Mortonjag' as he's called chez CHC - is going to pay a visit.

I'm coming to GET you!
mortonjag 2008-04-13 22:30:06
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 13 2008, 10:28 PM) [snapback]434008[/snapback]
At least I don't think a f***in' pop song is a 'true revolutionary anthem' (sic). laugh.gif

Get over yourselves. rolleyes.gif

It is a true revolutionary anthem micropenis.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 22:31:19
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 13 2008, 10:30 PM) [snapback]434010[/snapback]
If you do you'll be gettin' a boot in the RS McCalls, ya auld fanny.

I shall not be alone smallscrote.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 22:32:32
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 13 2008, 10:31 PM) [snapback]434011[/snapback]
It is a pop song ya daft auld fanny.

Oh well-if you say so microcephalus. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-13 22:35:35
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 13 2008, 10:33 PM) [snapback]434014[/snapback]
What, are you bringing Compo and Clegg along as well?

I am not daft enough to forewarn you minisculissimus.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 22:37:11
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 13 2008, 10:33 PM) [snapback]434015[/snapback]
I say so, ya daft auld fanny.

Fair enough gnome humper.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 22:43:48
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 13 2008, 10:37 PM) [snapback]434018[/snapback]
Predictable ageist witlessness from the 46 year old (soon to be 47) 'youngster'. tongue.gif

...who owns three Belgian brothels and an autograph of Allan McGraw signed on his bended knee.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 22:49:04
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 13 2008, 10:44 PM) [snapback]434021[/snapback]
David, you're obviously a intelligent guy, do you seriously think a pop song could be regarded as a 'true revolutionary anthem'?

It is a good pop song, I'll grant you that, but come on tae f***. rolleyes.gif

If you do think it's deserving of that rare accolade then I'd like to nominate this as a 'true pacifism anthem'. laugh.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6EFyofhXPw

Go to sleep my baby close your pretty eyes.
Angels up above you looking at you dearie from the skies.
Great big moon a shinin come now don't you cry,
Time for little Piccaninnies to go to sleep
mortonjag 2008-04-13 22:57:52
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 13 2008, 10:54 PM) [snapback]434026[/snapback]
The driver doesn't need a ticket mate. wink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-04-13 23:00:20
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 13 2008, 10:53 PM) [snapback]434025[/snapback]
I'm an atheist so I'm not worrying about myself. When I'm deid I reckon I'll stay that way, but..... and it's a big but indeed....... I can't really get to grips with the (fact?) that I'll never get to see my loved ones again. In that aspect, atheism is a bitch.

That used to perturb me too DE-the secret is in learning to HATE everybody.
mortonjag 2008-04-13 23:03:08
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 13 2008, 11:00 PM) [snapback]434032[/snapback]
They couldn't lay a glove on him Tom at the Committee hearings. All they are doing is playing politics and hoping some mud sticks.

All parties are in favour of the Trump application, even auntie Annabel. Trust me wink.gif

Trust in me, just in me
Shut your eyes and trust in me
You can sleep safe and sound
Knowing I am around

Slip into silent slumber
Sail on a silver mist
Slowly and surely your senses
Will cease to resist

Trust in me, just in me
Shut your eyes and trust in me
mortonjag 2008-04-13 23:08:07
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 13 2008, 11:04 PM) [snapback]434038[/snapback]
Hiss off !! tongue.gif

Twas the Monkey's idea! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-13 23:11:03
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 13 2008, 11:08 PM) [snapback]434041[/snapback]
I'm a child of the 60's laugh.gif
Naw a bad article in the Guardian btw.

Unstoppable Alba

http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/mike_s...pable_alba.html

A child of the 'swingin' sixties' you mean? Bet you've been hunting your real parents for ages!

God forbid-they're probably Inglissh
mortonjag 2008-04-13 23:14:32
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 13 2008, 11:02 PM) [snapback]434035[/snapback]
laugh.gif

That was actually quite funny. laugh.gif

Munky hear-eye fink mye dadz ded-heze notte breevyng enny mower-whot shood mee an fing doo befoar chekkyng thi wyl? sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-15 08:16:37
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 14 2008, 12:14 AM) [snapback]434060[/snapback]
True, but I think most people believe that the music from their teens and 20s is better than any other era before or since. It's normal, I think, as these are the years when your most open to influence. Hence that's probably why you don't appreciate Morrissey and I don't appreciate Dylan. No doubt most teenagers nowadays think they're both s***e and believe the Arctic Monkeys write deep, meaningful and soul searching masterpieces. And who are you or I to tell them they're wrong.

I don't quite know where the 'knows the price of everything and the value of nothing' and 'praying for my soul' rant came from, but you couldn't be more wrong David. Nothing I've got has been handed to me on a plate, which makes me appreciate what I do have even more. And it's been done not for self-gratification but with a view to giving my own kids the best start in life I possibly can. That's where I get my happiness from, not from simply owning material things but from the belief that they will give them more opportunities in life than I had. And I hope in turn that they'll do the same for my grandchildren if I'm lucky enough to be blessed with them in the future.

I actually found your assumptions about me a bit offensive given that you don't know me and have never even met me, but I guess that was your intention so well done, mission accomplished.

And I'm still glad that you're still glad that I'm happy. smile.gif

Commendable sentiments Pimpleknob-commendable sentiments.

I just hope that, as so often happens, your wee sprogs don't take everything you're working your tiny baws off for, and then accuse you of 'never having been there for them'. Good luck!
mortonjag 2008-04-15 08:49:12
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 13 2008, 11:46 PM) [snapback]434055[/snapback]
OK, enlighten me.

Name me just one song that's made the world a better place. And I don't mean by simply giving pleasure, I mean that it's made the world better in a tangible and meaningful sense, like saved lives, or overturned a dictatorship, or stopped suffering and injustice.

Or are you suggesting Nelson Mandela would still be in prison and apartheid would still be in place of the Specials aka hadn't released 'Free Nelson Mandela' (a great pop song BTW). tongue.gif

Nanananana
Nanananana (all together now)
Nanananana
Nanananana

Life (nanananana)
Life is life (nanananana)
Labadab dab dab life (nanananana)
Liiiiiiiife (nanananana)

When we all give the power
We all give the best
Every minute of an hour
Don't think about the rest
And you all get the power
You all get the best
When everyone gets everything
And every song everybody sings

And it's life (nanananana)
Life is life (nanananana)
Life is life (nanananana)
Labadab dab dab life (nanananana)

Life is life when we all feel the power
Life is life come on, stand up and dance
Life is life when the feeling of the people
Life is life is the feeling of the band

When we all give the power
We all give the best
Every minute of an hour
Don't think about the rest
Then you all get the power
You all get the best
When everyone gives everything
And every song everybody sings

And it's life (nanananana)
Life is life (nanananana)
Labadab dab dab life (nanananana)
Life is life (nanananana)

Life (nanananana)
(nanananana)
(nanananana)
(nanananana)

Life (nanananana)
Life is life (nanananana)
Labadab dab dab life (nanananana)
Live is life (nanananana)

And you call when it's over
You call it should last
Every minute of the future
Is a memory of the past
Cause we all gave the power
We all gave the best
And everyone gave everything
And every song everybody sang

Life is life
mortonjag 2008-04-15 08:56:19
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Apr 14 2008, 08:11 PM) [snapback]434244[/snapback]
He is now "Priapus of Greenock" blink.gif

..unlike Priapus of the Brussels Bordello who stands full 2.36890 centimetres high.
mortonjag 2008-04-15 08:59:11
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 14 2008, 07:18 PM) [snapback]434227[/snapback]
I heard she tells some incredibly funny rude jokes. But intimate...........NAW THANKS laugh.gif

You heard wrong-Anabel is incapable of that kind of behaviour.

She DOES tell rude jokes mind you,
mortonjag 2008-04-15 09:02:45
QUOTE(SramTon @ Apr 14 2008, 08:51 PM) [snapback]434276[/snapback]
I neved said it was. But it's certainly ironic, whether intentional or not. Hence the wink, rather than a LOL.

Anyway, in a board that has recently slaughtered a dead ex-MP, a dead actor who played Captain Birdseye, and (to a lesser extent) Princess Di, I'm not sure where all the sympathy for Speight is coming from.

None of them were, partly, responsible for killing their partner by supplying her with cocaine. This (and other factors) means, much as a tosser as I may be, he was a bigger one.

I don't even know who the f*ck that geezer was but if he was dabbling in the coke scene he was IMHO a silly boy.
mortonjag 2008-04-15 09:06:42 Plusnet-cheap, reliable, and excellent customer service from folk who can speak English.
mortonjag 2008-04-15 09:10:42
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Apr 15 2008, 01:10 AM) [snapback]434367[/snapback]
As an athiest I assume there's nothing BUT I also imagine the last few minutes before you go (assuming you don't get run over or something and are in crippling agony) can be quite serene and cool.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

...as Mortonjag loads the syringe to the soft strains of Ave Maria and a dug barking doon the close.
mortonjag 2008-04-15 09:16:37
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Apr 8 2008, 07:51 PM) [snapback]431624[/snapback]
yeah, didnt realise he was from glasgow!

He CLAIMS to be from Glasgow-he actually lives in East Renfrewshire, and his recycling plant is half way to Kilmarnock!
mortonjag 2008-04-15 09:17:37
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 15 2008, 09:15 AM) [snapback]434397[/snapback]
NO, NO DONT DO IT, THINK OF THE MONKEY FOR CHRISTS SAKE!!!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-04-15 09:24:34
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 15 2008, 01:09 AM) [snapback]434366[/snapback]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7p4mioawIA
tongue.gif
nah i agree with you, But this wasn't just Mcinally and the players first time in the first division, it was Dougie's aswell. He's tried his hardest and made mistakes but he's well on the way to fixing these mistakes. We have a competent manager and brought in experienced better quality players.
everyone makes mistakes.

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wacko.gif wacko.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-15 09:28:12
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 15 2008, 12:33 AM) [snapback]434363[/snapback]
and is that the only difference?

The difference between a 'typo' and a spelling mistake is that the perpetrator of the former is lazy, while the other is uneducated. Folk can't help being uneducated.

Mind you, most folk who claim they made a 'typo' are uneducated liars.
mortonjag 2008-04-15 09:29:21
QUOTE(foobs the elder @ Apr 15 2008, 09:27 AM) [snapback]434404[/snapback]
Is there any milage in the rumour that Gretna are dropping straight to division 2 thus saving the Ton from play offs.
any info?

foobs mellow.gif

A rumour is by definition, a rumour.
mortonjag 2008-04-15 09:34:03
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Apr 9 2008, 06:35 PM) [snapback]432102[/snapback]
I didn't want to appear pedantic a la Mortonjag et al. Still, chuffed you noticed - never been accused of subtlety before. laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-04-15 09:37:24
QUOTE(HamCam @ Apr 14 2008, 06:46 PM) [snapback]434215[/snapback]
Why would anyone from Cappielow go to a kids football tournament in Blackpool ? At this time of year there are any number of tournaments throughout the UK. Well done to the lads from the Port but gies piece on using it as an excuse to beat DDFR around the bonce.

Until Morton commit to a proper youth structure why would any parent send their kid to the club ? DDFR has made his views clear on the subject and for the moment it is not a priority. I like many others believe this is a mistake but nothing gained by using every tenuous link to criticise everything at Cappielow.

That may well be true.

The club's approach to the Youth Structure DOES, however, deserve all round criticism.
mortonjag 2008-04-15 09:47:22
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Apr 15 2008, 09:44 AM) [snapback]434414[/snapback]
If you wanted to be pedantic you could rip the poor French apart. laugh.gif

wink.gif

Still puzzling over this 'al' guy!
mortonjag 2008-04-15 09:49:17
QUOTE(nani @ Apr 15 2008, 09:43 AM) [snapback]434413[/snapback]
Bit of a pointless thread until we know what division we are playing in and if Dougie wishes to continue to invest in full time football. Having said that if we are still in the 1st Division then a new goalie (or 2), a back four, a winger and two strikers are needed. At least.

'can afford to'. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-15 12:55:09
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 14 2008, 07:37 PM) [snapback]434233[/snapback]
Believe it or not I have Catholic friends and family who refer to their churches as chapels. Agreed about Gourock Primary though.



QUOTE(forza ton @ Apr 14 2008, 08:31 PM) [snapback]434259[/snapback]
most people seem to refer to catholic churches as chapels. when i say most people i say the tiny fraction of the worlds tims who live in scotland and n.i. dry.gif

i doubt if there is a catholic church in greenock which is formally known as a chapel



QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 14 2008, 09:03 PM) [snapback]434279[/snapback]
If Teacher Tom went there, (and good luck to him) how could they be churches any more than they could be synagogues or mosques ?

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BLOODY HELL-WHO GIVES A F*CK! rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif


Little children fighting because they don't like their churches called chapels and they girn about the OF having chips on their shoulders.

My Uncle Jimmy in Belville Street, and My Auntie Jean in Kilmacolm Road, and my numerous relatives in Bawhirley Road ALWAYS talked about St. Lawrence's Chapel, though I have to admit they didn't go there to worship Jesus' Daddy.
mortonjag 2008-04-15 12:57:57
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 15 2008, 10:42 AM) [snapback]434424[/snapback]
a two storey hole ?

when we first arrived in Australia, we lived in cardboard boxes ... they were cheap and plentiful.

ah - the memories.

Sadly, we lost them in a bush fire.


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I think mine's just gone with old age Newt.
mortonjag 2008-04-15 13:04:48
QUOTE(Yoda @ Apr 15 2008, 11:11 AM) [snapback]434432[/snapback]
It's not death that is the problem for me, I'll just cease to exist no one will remember after a while and if they don't bury me for the love of me they will certainly do it for the smell!

The means by which I pass is another story, being a bit of a woose I would really rather that it didn't hurt awfully much if you don't mind. Something nice and quick like a heart attack, and don't be trying to bring me back! I have seen the after effects of that one and no ta!!!! Just leave me to go blue and cold!!!

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They CAN be a wee bit painful Yoda-Angor Animi was a term once used in that regard.My Dad said that when his time came, he hoped he'd just 'curl up and die', and he indeed passed away in his sleep.

In the words of the childrens' prayer-slightly corrupted

If I should die before I wake
Don't wake the wife
For Jesus' sake
Amen.
mortonjag 2008-04-15 13:06:59
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 15 2008, 10:12 AM) [snapback]434419[/snapback]
Hi there. Have a go at this one and see what you can come up with.

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Alan Main never saw it coming!
mortonjag 2008-04-15 13:10:08
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 15 2008, 12:27 PM) [snapback]434455[/snapback]
If you don't mind me asking, what's the monthly charge with them MJ?

Starts at £9.99 p.c.m!
mortonjag 2008-04-15 13:13:13 I thought this was going to be an interesting thread with lots of clever tips!

Here's mine for the uninitiated-you can stop almost any wound from bleeding if you apply firm pressure for long enough, though the patient may occasionally die before the end is achieved.
mortonjag 2008-04-15 13:17:01
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Apr 15 2008, 01:13 PM) [snapback]434478[/snapback]
I'd love to think that you could come back as a ghost and loiter around womens changing rooms. But you probably can't, which is pish.

The Holey ghost of Boozy!
mortonjag 2008-04-15 13:19:00
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Apr 15 2008, 01:14 PM) [snapback]434480[/snapback]
What if the patient is receiving anti-coagulant therapy?
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Anyway, can't you also stop minor bleeds with pepper?

They tend to stop themselves unless you're on anticoalugant therapy! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-15 13:20:21
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Apr 15 2008, 01:17 PM) [snapback]434482[/snapback]
Nah, don't sleep with Paisley burds. I'm clean...

What's with the spots then?
mortonjag 2008-04-15 13:22:59
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Apr 15 2008, 01:17 PM) [snapback]434483[/snapback]
Although I pretty much agree with everything in the first post I still find it hard to be critical of a guy for showing loyalty to an employee. He should have went after the Livvy game but too often nowadays managers aren't given a fair crack of the whip. I believe if Jim had went after the Livvy game we wouldn't be in this situation but the positives under Rae's reign still outweigh the negatives.

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mortonjag 2008-04-15 13:27:15
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 15 2008, 12:58 PM) [snapback]434464[/snapback]
Why ????
[b] We have nothing to celebrate from staying up [/b], just relief and a hope we don't go through the same crap again next season .

The play offs in this formate is only to protect the side from the higher division giving them a chance to rescue their status over 4 games when in truth they failed to do it over the previous 36 .

Save your money and go and watch QOTS in the Scottish Cup , that is an achievement . We will only be in the play offs by default .


You're a hard old sod at times. If Shoogly can be tossed in the air to celebrate a defeat at Kircaldy, the old buffoon should be paraded round the town in an open topped bus if we win the play offs























































and driven off Princes Pier at high speed.
mortonjag 2008-04-15 13:28:26
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 15 2008, 01:06 PM) [snapback]434472[/snapback]
guilty as chargd tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-04-15 13:33:05
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 14 2008, 07:03 PM) [snapback]434223[/snapback]
I can only hope Russell proves me wrong by scoring the winner or even setting up the onrushing Finlayson :rolleyes:
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Have you not clocked the fact that an onrushing Finlayson always fails. The few goals he HAS scored have all been speculative, or downright sclaffs!
mortonjag 2008-04-15 13:36:54
QUOTE(Rossco @ Apr 15 2008, 01:28 PM) [snapback]434490[/snapback]
Maybe dougie is still hanging onto SPL2 where we wont be relegated will be a tv package & dougie & running through fields holding hands with Pearce Flynn with the sound of music soundtrack in background.

How do you solve a problem like Marayah
mortonjag 2008-04-15 13:40:12
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Apr 14 2008, 10:48 PM) [snapback]434326[/snapback]
Awaits someone with Huntingdon's Disease... ohmy.gif

Do today's kids still talk about VD?
mortonjag 2008-04-15 13:43:31
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Apr 15 2008, 01:40 PM) [snapback]434496[/snapback]
The only reason i have left early was with YOU, so GIRFUY. Ye moan like f*** at games, as most around me have witnessed. Hanging about with the wrong folk is rubbing off on you, so get tae f*** rolleyes.gif

As for WeegieTon, ram yer pies right up where the sun dont shine wink.gif

penis?
mortonjag 2008-04-15 14:00:37
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Apr 15 2008, 01:44 PM) [snapback]434498[/snapback]
I don't have access right now to a Collins or Oxford dictionary, however the online dictionary refers to a chapel as a place of worship being smaller than and subordinate to a church. A further definition is given as a place of worship for a non-established religion. Perhaps the Tims are right to have a chip on their shooder? laugh.gif

The Oxford says this....


in Britain-a place of worship for non-conformist religions


Chambers...


a dissenters place of worship, as of Nonconformists in England , Roman Catholics, or Episcopalians in Scotland etc.

and Encarta opines.....


A place of worship used by a nonconformist Protestant denomination such as the Methodists or Baptists.


Bloody hell, those Pishley c*nts have been boasting about their Abbey and Coats Memorial Baptist Church for years and in reality they are both just wee Chapels, even if the C of S. stole the former somewhere down the line.

Christians! dry.gif



mortonjag 2008-04-15 14:05:07
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Apr 15 2008, 01:38 PM) [snapback]434494[/snapback]
Go sit in hyde park with a picnic if you dont want to spend money,

personally i dont think you can go to london without sending a fortune, that place just seems to eat up your money wether you like it or not.

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Beermonkey spends all his holiday money and proceeds to enjoy it in Hyde Park!
mortonjag 2008-04-15 14:11:43
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Apr 15 2008, 02:04 PM) [snapback]434508[/snapback]
Funny how 60 years on we still have the same problems.

Personally I blame the Nationalists!
mortonjag 2008-04-15 14:12:44
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Apr 15 2008, 02:09 PM) [snapback]434512[/snapback]
Yet another post that makes no sense. dry.gif

Try again when you sober up.
mortonjag 2008-04-15 14:14:57
QUOTE(MfcRyan @ Apr 15 2008, 01:59 PM) [snapback]434505[/snapback]
Don't eat yellow snow wink.gif

Leave it for the colour blind.
mortonjag 2008-04-16 08:47:14
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Apr 15 2008, 09:39 PM) [snapback]434686[/snapback]
You're on form today you Belgian butt truffle.

Maybe he's dead now! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-16 08:51:09
QUOTE(SramTon @ Apr 15 2008, 08:17 PM) [snapback]434642[/snapback]
Good old "vag1na disease".

My Oxford pocket dictionary (1988) quaintly defines S.T.D. as: "Subscriber Trunk Dialling".

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...before they rung the changes-and in the good old days it was gonorrhoea if you were unlucky and syphilis if more so, although I see the latter's making a comeback in Britain.

Columbus has much to answer for.
mortonjag 2008-04-16 08:55:05
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 15 2008, 09:56 PM) [snapback]434702[/snapback]
Christ MJ, that boy of yours sounds like a right selfish basturd.

Never mind my selfish basturd sprogs-just listen to a daft old f*nny before it's too late.

Nae pockets in a shroud, trois maisons!
mortonjag 2008-04-16 08:59:25
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Apr 15 2008, 05:39 PM) [snapback]434587[/snapback]
Chapel is very old school.

Anyhoo, architecture is it? most of the decent school buildings were knocked down, Glasgow has a few left serving other purposes that look most fine, Scotland St school is an utter gem.
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDSo is Mr Bam----normally!
mortonjag 2008-04-16 09:04:03
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Apr 15 2008, 02:38 PM) [snapback]434521[/snapback]
Been trying to get in touch with a Tony Cowden at Cappielow (to get a couple tickets for Saturday from a gift voucher) for a while(as in a week huh.gif) and every time I phone I get an answering service so I select an extension number and get an engaged tone for the millionth time, the number I'm dialing is 01475 723571 is there another number or does anyone have Dougies home number?

also Torro, Al's away so you can have the other one if you want for free well when I say free I mean 1 cold pint. wink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-04-16 09:18:30
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Apr 15 2008, 06:05 PM) [snapback]434594[/snapback]
DDF has tried to consolodate Morton's place in the SFL Division 1 on the cheap.
He has no intention of any serious future investments in Morton, on the contrary he has scaled back from what he once invested.
Time to sell up or at least allow Crawford to run things.



Sean DDF does NOT read this board, he has his minion to do that for him. Our resident spy.


Rae is a cheapskate-ask any business connection!


QUOTE(Toby @ Apr 15 2008, 06:31 PM) [snapback]434600[/snapback]
I wonder how this'll be spun at the end of the season by those within Cappielow depending on what scenario actually comes about.

Say we avoid relegation in the end, will it be dressed up as some sort of success story, hence more "onwards and upwards" speil that he usually feeds us, or will there be a bit of humility, accepting things have been crap and back to the drawing board. If this is the case, the new management team will quite rightly take a great deal of credit of course, but I'd be very surprised if Rae doesn't try to take the credit <piss> for helping us escape, i.e. bringing in Irons and Collins being a masterstroke.

If it's the case that we do go down who'll take the blame? Him? The previous management team? The current management team? The players? The fans? Think we all agree the current management team aren't responsible, but I can guarantee it'll be the fans, with a few wee bitchy digs getting directed at players who are on their way out. We may even see a dig at McInally and Clark at this point, after they admitted towards the end of their reign that they made mistakes in not bringing in experienced players in the summer. Who's the one person who won't take any blame? Exactly.

It would appear that the support as a whole's confidence in Rae is at it's all time low, with the majority now seemingly having had enough of him. It's easy to say that it's only a small section of the support that post on here, but I reckon it is an accurate enough representation of the supoort as a whole to cause concern for our resident tooth-rotter.

Someone with have alot of soul-searching and looking in the mirror to do over the summer, and it's not any of the fans this time around.


Not a chance!


QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 15 2008, 06:53 PM) [snapback]434609[/snapback]
Very well put Toby . Was never more convinced after hearing Mr Rae speak at the Q+A night . The resentful tone he answered any criticism is a testament that things will not change .

I think if he did admite to mistakes he would get more respect but that is an unlikely scenario.


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QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Apr 15 2008, 08:31 PM) [snapback]434649[/snapback]
Dougie's reluctance to admit mistakes is a bit annoying. When he did admit one, after the "home fans" comment, people jumped down his throat again anyway.

At the end of the day, for all his faults, I can't help but remember Scott/Peden and be thankful we have someone who owns the club who only wants what's best for the club and who would never let it die. I'm not saying because he saved the club he should be untouchable but for all he f***s up when I read about guys like the idiots running clubs like Macclesfield, Hearts, Cardiff, Leeds, etc. and after what we've went through ourselves I don't think we have it half as bad as some make out.

I remember selling McInnes when, if we'd kept him, we would have won the 1st division. Guys like Mahood, Hopkin, Mathie, Lilley, Anderson, Fenwick, Collins, Thomas, etc. all getting sold on, sometimes without the manager's consent, and how people were annoyed whenever we had a good player we sold them as it showed no ambition.

Now we have a guy who has been willing to dip his hand into his pocket and tries to keep a hold of players he's making different types of mistakes but getting far more abuse for it.

We, as a set of fans, will never be happy with who's in charge. We'll always find fault. Not just with a chairman but managers, players and ourselves. It's, perhaps, the way it should be. We should never be blindly observant, us more than most after what happened a decade ago, but we need to learn we shouldn't be overly critical of every little thing. The people in charge of our club are as human as us and it's not too far a shout to claim they're doing a better job than we would in their posistion*.

Bottom line we should all be forever thankful for Dougie and what he's done. We shouldn't let it cloud our vision of the guy. He was our saviour but he's not god. If Dougie would take this on board, admit his mistakes and try to rectify them, we'd all have a happier Cappielow on our hands.

At least he stopped coming out onto the pitch for his wee speeches. They were dire smile.gif

*Jim McInally this season aside



That, I'm afraid is not the case. In Rae's head, NOTHING comes before Rae.

QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 15 2008, 10:18 PM) [snapback]434725[/snapback]
i agree with Sean that Dougie has let us down badly, but i also am of the opinion that dougie is trying his hardest to rectify the mistakes he's made. I am not a Dougie supporter neither am i a Dougie critic. i see a man who loves Morton who has made lots of mistakes in the way he thinks the club should be run best, but also a man who has realised his mistakes and is trying to fix them.


Rae doesn't MAKE mistakes!


QUOTE(cornbeef @ Apr 16 2008, 02:14 AM) [snapback]434779[/snapback]
He has spent a lot of money and that should never be forgotton. If it was spent unwisely..... it's easy to say this after the event (there are lot's of experts with 20/20 hindsight on here)

and if he hadn't spent any money - where would we be now ? (I'll let you work that one out for yourselves)

The original poster is entitled to his view of course but I feel Dougy Rae (whatever his shortcomings) has tried his best for the team he supports and I'll never criticise him for that.

If I met Dougy I would be happy to shake his hand and thank him for his work over the past few years (I certainly wouldn't be bleating about being 'let down')



Didn't Hitler 'try his best' to achieve what he believed in Cloth Ears? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-16 09:23:41
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Apr 16 2008, 09:17 AM) [snapback]434808[/snapback]
I always thought it was the old St Mungo's, could be wrong, decent looking building though.

Ladyburn Primary on Pottery St. Has a vague resemblance to Scotland St. School.
mortonjag 2008-04-16 09:28:24
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Apr 16 2008, 09:18 AM) [snapback]434810[/snapback]

Where's Sick Mick?

If the Tims win tonight he might ask Daddy for some inside information!
mortonjag 2008-04-16 10:30:20
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 16 2008, 10:09 AM) [snapback]434824[/snapback]
I'm surprised nobody's mentioned the courthouse. With its craw stepped gables and scots baronial turrets it's a right wee stunner. Pity that its prospect is too often marred by the shell suit bobs who gather outside it.

I detest those c*nts in the wigs too DE!
mortonjag 2008-04-16 10:33:01
QUOTE(se65an @ Apr 16 2008, 09:52 AM) [snapback]434817[/snapback]
Eh? You sire have lost the plot.

I do agree and said so in my post that Dougie is Morton through and through, but this season he has failed us all. I have met Dougie many a time and shaked his hand for what he has done for Morton, but next time I meet him, I will hae no issues with also telling him how he messed it up this season and has let most of the fans down(fans that see past the blue and white clouds).

Just like when an employee messes up big time they need told, so does a chairman of a football club.

Cloth ears and Shoogly-two peas in a pod!
mortonjag 2008-04-16 14:45:44
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Apr 16 2008, 11:26 AM) [snapback]434858[/snapback]
hello Doctor,

Yesterday I went jogging, first time in ages, I am trying to get slim and sexy for my weddding in a few weeks.

In work last night I noticed my back was getting stiff and sore. I don't know if it was related to the running or not but then last night I couldnt lie on my back when sleeping, really discomforting.

The pain is over quite a big area, I'd say at the top of my lower back. I dont know what I have done to it. I went in a bath with radox today and also had it massaged which was quite painful but an enjoyable pain.

It's really agonising this morning.

I was wondering what your diagnosis is, have I pulled a wee muscle or something ? Will the pain go away in a few days ?What treatment do you recommend ? Should I stop joggin until it has cleared ?

I work 8 hours a day at a computer, should I try and keep the seat fully upright or at an angle ?


You don't need to be slim to be sexy, WDE, though it often helps.

I doubt if you've done anything serious. Soft tissue injury (a diagnosis which means-not quite certain-but nae broken bones) I imagine! Certainly having to sit bolt upright all day won't do much good-what's normally best is resting in the most comfortable position alternated with gentle exercising movements. You can buy nice hot rubs in the chemist which your beloved can massage in liberally, and if you have no allergies, tummy trouble, asthma etc., (always read the label) the strongest o.t.c pain killer is co-codamol 12.5/500 sold as Solpadeine Max or Panadol Ultra. In addition (not commonly known) anti-inflammatories like ibuprofen can be taken in conjunction with those.

If all else fails you could even try to get an appointment with your quack, though he'll probably be very busy filling forms to justify his performance to wee Nickerless!

Good luck-OH-and Loyal Lass is s*** hot on alternative remedies I'm told!
mortonjag 2008-04-16 14:49:33
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 16 2008, 12:20 PM) [snapback]434879[/snapback]
There's only one way to find out. Are you that desperate to know? laugh.gif

I think we lost that customer Mr Edwards!
mortonjag 2008-04-16 14:52:52
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Apr 16 2008, 12:12 PM) [snapback]434874[/snapback]
Booking hospitality for Saturday rolleyes.gif

Then you may just possibly be the last person in Hospitality to ask the current Chairman a question which he will answer by bemoaning the rising price of sugar.
mortonjag 2008-04-16 15:11:05 It's refreshing that at least the fans have now reached a point where Rae can be criticised.


Talking to him won't help, writing to him won't help, and praying wont help either as HE is GOD.


The only thing the buffoon seems motivated by is money, or the loss of it. Nasty home fans not bringing their friends seems to be his recurrent theme!

Enough of this sycophantic sh*te about 'his heart being in the right place unlike Donald and Ramsay'-all three are businessmen, but only two have had any REAL success with their ventures. Rae has blown it, he's skint in Morton terms, and he hasn't a clue where he's going next.

I know where I'd like that to be. sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-16 15:28:21
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 16 2008, 03:20 PM) [snapback]434974[/snapback]
i agree completely with that.

my point is that now is not the time to raise these concerns as we have 4 weeks at most left of the season where we all need to be together, from top of the club to the very bottom trying to keep us in this division.

Maybe we do need Dougie to leave or someone to start making the football decisions for him, but that is not going to happen between now and the end of the season....and it would be disastrous for us if it did.

its all about timing, if i had a girlfriend who turned out to be a manic depressive who was suicidal because she had never had a good Christmas in her life then i wouldn't dump her on Christmas day......although i get the feeling Sean would. tongue.gif

Manic depressives are normally depressed for no specific reason PT. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-16 15:31:13
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 16 2008, 03:08 PM) [snapback]434962[/snapback]
MJ , you and that monkey are a nasty pair! ohmy.gif

No need to bring the monkey into this.

Anyway here's today's top tip. Don't spill Irn Bru-NOTHING will remove the stains!
mortonjag 2008-04-16 15:33:07
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Apr 16 2008, 02:02 PM) [snapback]434923[/snapback]
Going to Brussels next Friday for the weekend, i will feedback mate.

Is Noel paying?
mortonjag 2008-04-16 15:33:48
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Apr 16 2008, 02:35 PM) [snapback]434941[/snapback]
Agree with that or even Benbecula.

Islay's closer!
mortonjag 2008-04-16 15:41:47
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 16 2008, 03:33 PM) [snapback]434985[/snapback]
How do you know that , are you speaking from personal experience??



QUOTE(mentalton @ Apr 16 2008, 03:38 PM) [snapback]434991[/snapback]
Dont practice the art of sooking your own boaby whilst alone, I did and got cramp and was upside down with my legs over my head till the wife came home from work and unraveled me.

...and the Irn Bru stains hadn't budged.
mortonjag 2008-04-16 15:54:20
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 16 2008, 03:38 PM) [snapback]434990[/snapback]
because the same way as when Irons was hired everyone said now wasn't the time to raise our concerns about the club and everyone was to pull together (which im sure you agreed with) to try and help us stay in the division.

we aren't relegated yet and it is plain for me to see that Dougie is trying his hardest to correct past mistakes (even as far back as trying to convince Millar to stay after he'd decided to leave), The managers have defintely been trying their hardest, infact with Irons he has tried even harder than anyone expected after his appearance out our game against QOS, The players have put in a hell of a lot of effort under Irons and you can see how much staying up means to them (the thing that amazes me is how many of those players love the club that the club doesn't love back), even the fans at games have been a lot better since then, which only leaves the messageboard moaners who aren't pulling their weight.

when everyone agreed when Irons took over that we should all get behind the club and put our off-field problems on the back burner to help get us out of the division did it only count for the first few weeks until he hadn't performed miracles? Because for me it meant until either the end of the season or when we were relegated.

the fact you cant see the points ive made above are what IMO makes you self obsessed when it comes to this. ( Don't really know you so couldn't say if you're self obsessed in your life or if its just when you come on a football messageboard).

you're almost 50 now! ohmy.gif

How is it possible for a man to 'attempt to correct past mistakes' when he has yet to admit to a single one?

Not everybody thought Irons/Collins, was the best selection for the difficult task of saving Shoogly's bacon, and so far they HAVE tried very hard and failed. That is NOT a criticism of THEM, but they are relatively inexperienced, just as JM was, and they are, by all accounts, personable chaps-just like JM was.

Wouldn't it have been nice to get some absolute c*nt short term-somebody who knocked some bloody sense and respect into certain players and dropped them at will, and introduced TRUE competition into the squad, and DIDN'T listen to anything the Chairman said, and saved the old c*nt's skin, before telling him to take a flying f*ck to his new contract! smile.gif

mortonjag 2008-04-16 15:55:43
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Apr 16 2008, 03:45 PM) [snapback]434996[/snapback]
Aha....as a doctor of some repute you should know very well that it is sometimes said that the cure can be worse than the disease.

The process of removing Dougie could in fact replace him with a bigger despot. So I say again, be careful what your wish for, successful business men usually lose all their business acumen the minute they walk through the doors of football clubs. They start to think with their balls, footballs that is, and not their brains.

I'd welcome that as Rae is clearly emasculate.
mortonjag 2008-04-16 15:59:17 Mr Haswell was NOT the villain of the piece. He made it quite clear that he 'did not have a clear view of the incident'.

I'm still waiting for a further reply from Drew Herbertson BTW!
mortonjag 2008-04-16 16:02:39
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 16 2008, 03:49 PM) [snapback]435003[/snapback]
is that a problem ?

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how can a patient die occasionally ?

do patients of mortonjag die more than once ?

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Mortonjag-physician by appointment to J.Christ, carpenter of Nazareth and putative 'Son of God'.
mortonjag 2008-04-16 16:08:02
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 16 2008, 04:02 PM) [snapback]435013[/snapback]
the right time is at the end of the season wether that be if we stay up or not. I agree completely with everything Sean said but i dont see how anything has changed since everyone almost unanimously decided to get behind the team, chairman and club when Irons was appointed. The season hasn't ended yet and we're not relegated yet so im still in the frame of mind where we should all be pulling in the same direction.

of course he has the right to express his opinion at any time, i just don't think him doing it now helps anyone...except maybe himself. tongue.gif
so you choose one of the most crucial times in our clubs history to start moaning about things Morton. If i thought for a second your post would make a difference to Morton in a good way then i'd be all for it, If Dougie read it and went " good idea sean, ill get someone in right now to help with the football side of things, sorry i didnt get you a birthday present btw " then all would be great, But the best thing that can happen with it is no one from the club reads it and passes it onto Dougie, the worst thing is they could and he takes it as an attack and lowers his opinion of some fans even more.

No good thing could come from posts like your opening one at times like this, only bad things so i don't see the point in discussing things like that now. If you'd started this thread at the end of May i'd have been completely on your side and asking you for fashion tips like what cheap jeans go well with cheap trainers.

What a load of crap! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


Don't criticise the old buffoon right now, because it won't do any good-it won't do any HARM-he's more pachydermatous that an elephant with psoriasis, and Sean is entirely entitled to voice his opinion as a paying customer-JUST WHENEVER HE PLEASES!
mortonjag 2008-04-16 16:13:03
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 16 2008, 04:09 PM) [snapback]435019[/snapback]
Just because he doesn't admit in public doesn't mean he doesn't realise he's made mistakes. Dougie is a very proud man and offering himself to the slaughter of baying fans who've wanted blood at every oppertunity is never going to happen. He will never admit mistakes to us, which is fine by me because i dont have a complete dislike for him so im able to notice when he's trying to fix mistakes.

i thought Irons was the worst possible choice for manager, infact the day he was appointed i was on here angry as hell that it had happened and arguing with people, But he has been a complete breath of fresh air.

Just about every single player has been dropped under Irons and he's only been here 9 games. How can you get TRUE competition when you're not able to sign players and the players at his disposal aren't good enough?. Irons has made one signing since he came, and he could possibly be our best signing of the season (although thats not saying a lot).

Nice to know everything's sorted then!
mortonjag 2008-04-16 16:19:16
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Apr 16 2008, 04:13 PM) [snapback]435025[/snapback]
So you don't like him then, its like nothing personal. Your not a product of his loins or anything like that....a forgotten love child...his forgotten b*****d son. You don't have some ulterior motive...like trying to buy the club for nothing when Dougie chucks it.

You just don't like him, whether he's running Morton Football Club, Golden Casket or the ficken marathon. dry.gif

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That's the umpteenth time I've been asked that question, and for the umpteenth time I'll reply that I've only met the old dodder on one occasion-it is NOT a personal issue.

What I WILL say, is that I despise the type of personality he appears to portray.

I can assure you that not only Sean feels let down by a man whose blundering buffoonery has taken us seven years to reach relegation spot in the 1st division.

That is down to megalomania, inability to delegate, and ultimately financial cold feet. Daddy Rae is now a liability-PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
mortonjag 2008-04-16 16:20:19
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 16 2008, 04:11 PM) [snapback]435022[/snapback]
Coming from the Grand Master of self obsessiveness.

The phrase " think they're bigger than the club " was thought up just for you.

Don't become one of MJ's minions Sean! tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-04-16 16:22:20 Discuss ad libitum!
mortonjag 2008-04-16 16:25:13
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 16 2008, 04:18 PM) [snapback]435028[/snapback]
SURGEONS at a Philippines hospital are being probed after they allegedly filmed an operation in which a man had a spray can removed from his backside, then posted the footage on YouTube.

The video, which was taken down from the popular video-sharing website after several weeks, showed dozens of people in the operating theatre laughing and jeering as the surgeons removed the canister from the man's bottom, Deutsche-Presse Agentur reported.

The surgery was carried out at Vicente Sotto Memorial Medical Centre in Cebu City, 585km south of Manila.

Hospital spokesman Emmanuel Gines said the 39-year-old patient would get an apology for the incident on January 3, which was being investigated.

The video was initially thought to be a hoax until the victim went to the media this week.

The man, a florist, said he ended up with the spray can inside him after insulting his partner's penis size.

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A rose by any other name!
mortonjag 2008-04-16 16:28:37
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 16 2008, 04:25 PM) [snapback]435036[/snapback]
Oh god, how predictable.

sorry for taking your name in vain btw.

I actually tried to start a poll and f*cked up-not the stuff of deities-and now I can't delete the bloody thing-anyway it would end up 95% feeling let down with a few weak kneed sycophants on the other side! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-16 16:33:17
QUOTE(nani @ Apr 16 2008, 11:08 AM) [snapback]434848[/snapback]
Andy McLaren is the worst type of player there is??? Are you serious? For the first year or so at Morton he was different class. The one guy who would produce a bit of flair or magic that would excite me as a football fan. Worth the admission money alone. So what if he moaned at refs etc. He was a class act. Apart from him and wee McGowan our team is full of water carriers....lots of effort and commitment but no class. No-one who can do something special. Thats why we are 2nd bottom. If we had both of the above or even one of them we wouldnt be where we are. Yeah its a shame that that his personal problems have hindered his career and I`m sure that in his later years he will have some regrets. However I enjoyed watching him play and I always felt we had a chance of doing something if he was on the ball. If thats the worst type of player there is then I wish we had a few more of them.

Exactly-just when we need somebody to see us through to the end of a game it's always 'pass the buck' time. We've not had a natural leader on the park under Rae.
mortonjag 2008-04-16 16:34:57
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 16 2008, 04:32 PM) [snapback]435042[/snapback]
probably true, and i'd be one of those 95%.

just glad you're actually a mere mortal after all and f*** up like this rest of us.

I always admit my mistakes PT. If you check, my last one was in 2006.
mortonjag 2008-04-16 16:37:36
QUOTE(Yoda @ Apr 16 2008, 04:29 PM) [snapback]435041[/snapback]
We were on holiday in Blackpool, must have been 36 years ago as it was before my brother was born. Anyhoo, we were staying in a guest house and the people in the next room had gone out for the night and left all their weans to their own devices.

My mum and dad could hear really dreadful screaming coming from next door, so my dad went to investigate to find one of the youngest with a dislocated thumb, so he took him to the Victoria Infirmary to get it looked at. The boy was sitting in the waiting room swearing like a trooper and poor Jim (my dad) is trying to explain to the staff that the brat is not his, he is just from the room next door, when in comes a guy on a trolley, bent up on his knees with a rug over him and his friend trotting along beside asking "can someone help me friend?"

They take the guy on the trolley into a cubicle and one of the nurses asks his friend what is the matter - the chap replies very quietly "he has a torch stuck up his anus" pardon says the nurse - the chap repeats the sentence at which point my dad hears (and sees) the doctor behind and through the curtain shout "Jesus Christ it's lit!"

Poor Jim never really got over that trip to hospital. ohmy.gif

Lead kindly light, amid the encircling gloom!
mortonjag 2008-04-16 16:39:08
QUOTE(Yoda @ Apr 16 2008, 04:33 PM) [snapback]435043[/snapback]
Is a tourniquet round the throat not classed as strangulation?

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Firm pressure my dear!
mortonjag 2008-04-16 16:40:49
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 16 2008, 04:36 PM) [snapback]435046[/snapback]
it would take me longer to go through all your posts back to 2006 than it would for me to live every single day again back to that point.

I'm glad you've accepted my statement!
mortonjag 2008-04-17 07:40:46
QUOTE(Yoda @ Apr 16 2008, 10:46 PM) [snapback]435164[/snapback]
Mt apparently. A drill had to be called for. She said he was crying like a baby. Though i suppose you would with a bottle of spars finest hock hanging out yer ers. Why would you? Seriously though why?

The bottle up erse story is a fairly common one in casualty. One of the best excuses I ever heard was-'I fell on it'! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-17 07:46:42
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 17 2008, 06:51 AM) [snapback]435250[/snapback]
I hate Irn Bru mad.gif

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It's supposed to be our other national drink-I go through wee phases when I can enjoy it-mainly with a fish supper.
mortonjag 2008-04-17 07:52:00
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 16 2008, 04:54 PM) [snapback]435054[/snapback]
How many cars will get booked for parking on Carwood street pavements this Saturday then?

Ask Clapton!
mortonjag 2008-04-17 07:56:35
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 16 2008, 05:03 PM) [snapback]435057[/snapback]
I understand your opinion ate, but Sean is only saying what the majority have been saying for a while on here and at the games. DDFR has made some vital errors which have contributed, whether inavertantly or not, to the demise of the team this season. he has to know the fans feelings at all times and a good chairman will listen to his fans at all times, good or bad. DDFR does not seem to have grasped that concept.
i know it is, and believe me im along with the majority in their opinions of Dougie, but maybe its just me thats of the opinion that for the last two league games and the play-offs maybe that the chairman doesn't matter, the managers dont matter, the players dont matter and the fans dont matter.

the only thing that matters is Morton, a collective of all those things.

Rae is Morton-that's exactly what's wrong.
mortonjag 2008-04-17 08:00:16
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 17 2008, 07:54 AM) [snapback]435261[/snapback]
I know, but i have never liked the stuff , too sweet and sickly for me sad.gif

Try the diet stuff mixed half in half with gin.
mortonjag 2008-04-17 08:01:36
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Apr 17 2008, 07:45 AM) [snapback]435258[/snapback]
i just watched the goals there...brilliant goal by nakamura

whats the deal with red cards then?? does the ban kick in straight away or do they have to wait a few games like yellow card/point accumulations?

cos if rangers are without their 2 central defenders for the next few games they could just slip up there after months of what doctors call "c***y b*****dtitus" tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-04-17 08:37:41
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Apr 17 2008, 08:10 AM) [snapback]435266[/snapback]
tongue.gif that doesnt answer my question...haha

I was puzzled by your medical term-you don't suffer from relapsing low grade papalparanoia perchance? tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-17 08:41:30
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 17 2008, 08:02 AM) [snapback]435265[/snapback]
There a lot of dicsussion on here about drugs and junkies and whatnot; the problems they cause to society and how best to deal with them.

Now I'm wanting to minimise in any way the seriousness of drug abuse and what that can lead to both for the individual and society as a whole. But I do think that overall alcohol causes much more violence and social disorder than drugs do. It's already well known that the vast majority of violent crime and murder is carried out when the offender is under the influence of alcohol (I can't remember the exact statistic but I'm sure it's something like 80% of murders). Now there's a study which even suggests that a mother drinking alcohol in pregnancy can lead to violent tendencies in later life: -

http://www.theherald.co.uk/mostpopular.var...n_pregnancy.php

Sometimes I get the feeling that when we worry and pontificate about the best way to deal with junkies we're a bit like doctors dicussing how to cure the cold when the patient is actually dying of cancer.

So what causes more social unrest, violence and mysery, alcohol or drugs? Overall I'd have to say alcohol.

Thoughts?

Aye Pimpleknob-that happens all the time.


Anyway you are correct beyond a shadow of a doubt, but this thread will probably run to forty three and a half pages of crap from self appointed specialists.

QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Apr 17 2008, 08:15 AM) [snapback]435267[/snapback]
i would tend to say drugs cause more social unrest.

people sit in pubs with plenty of alcoholics around them and feel at ease but if a junkie were to sit next to them chances are most ppl would be keeping an eye on their wallet/purse and feel a bit uneasy.

i know thats not really the point your making but more people tend to feel awkward around people on drugs than drink as alcohol is accepted by the majority.

fair enough, i see what your saying about the murders but i bet more theft is done with drugs involved and without knowing exact figures im pretty sure theft is far more common than murder.

jst my opinion though

Widely accepted myth Thrax.
mortonjag 2008-04-17 08:44:57
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Apr 17 2008, 08:19 AM) [snapback]435268[/snapback]
Fopp is owned by HMV.
I was involved with them from '93 in a professional capacity and became their national account manager in '98. Before I left the company I was with I could see that Fopp were in a bad way and they were actually one of the reasons I left because they were spending £3m plus a year with us and I didn't think I'd have a job if they went bust.
They changed over the years from being an excellent 'indie' music shop to a junk shop, mainly because they were run for the last couple of years (when they were still independent) by a former MD of HMV. Really sad.

Terrible what misguided high heid yins can to to a burgeoning enterprise Mr McArthur! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-17 09:41:53
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Apr 17 2008, 09:27 AM) [snapback]435279[/snapback]
huh.gif i dont know...do i???

o crap i think i do...

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mortonjag 2008-04-17 09:47:33 You could very carefully screw a small diameter self tapper into the centre of the plastic 'thing'-just enough to give you the purchase to pull it back out and re-attach the link. Use a bradawl or some sharp point to start with.
mortonjag 2008-04-17 09:57:49
QUOTE(Yoda @ Apr 17 2008, 09:49 AM) [snapback]435289[/snapback]
After the trauma and distress - well we've got to ham it up a bit - of being broken into last week, I was dispatched to our local Argos to purchase a burglarrrr alarm. Came back with what I thought would do the job nicely, opened the box and found 40 meters of cables inside and instructions to drill a hole through the front of the house.

Back to Argos, exchanged it for another burglarrrr alarm, this time wireless with a remote - only one though, so if one of us goes out before the other we both have to be back at the same time for the one without the remote to get back in or we could leave it inside the front door as a handy aid to the next nugget who tries their luck so that they can switch it off nae bother! I caled the manufacturers "oh you can buy a second remote for another £20" aye right!

Back to Argos again, by now I am on first name terms with the girls inside and they are letting me open the boxes to check that there is a key pad inside and it will do what it says on the can. I don't do shopping I hate shopping. But whatever we put in it has to be simple, as I can't even work the timer on the oven.

Now it is over to Vader, to fit the flaming thing - the neighbours have been warned. ph34r.gif

Buy an Alsatian!
mortonjag 2008-04-17 10:31:45
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Apr 17 2008, 10:28 AM) [snapback]435296[/snapback]
I saw on P&B that there was a meeting but having now found this it seems it was just a Gretna residents meeting laugh.gif

I did find this though.

Gretna fans back agent's takeover attempt
By Amanda Little

Last updated 21:01, Wednesday, 16 April 2008

Fans campaigning to save Gretna have thrown their weight behind a takeover attempt by Brooks Mileson football agent Paul Davies.

Davies is preparing to make a bid for the stricken club which is in the hands of the administrators after owner Brooks Mileson withdrew his financial backing.

The Glasgow-based football consultant and agent, whose father Ken is the club’s security chief, is understood to be among four potential new owners, including a mega-rich USA consortium.

Davies has a squad of players on stand-by ( huh.gif ) to join Gretna this summer and wants to rebuild the club in the Scottish First Division after their relegation from the SPL.

The Gretna Supporters’ Society, which has formed an action group to raise funds and campaign to save the Black and Whites, is supporting his bid.

Action group chairman Malcolm Dunn, a Windermere businessman and club sponsor who personally paid for the team coach for the recent trip to Aberdeen, said: “We don’t see that there is another viable bid on the table.

“I’ve had a few meetings with Paul and he wants to bring success back to the club and keep the club going.

“I got involved in Gretna three years ago and it’s been up, up and up. They’re a great little club and the people involved are unbelievable.

“Our priority is that a club exists and is playing in the Scottish First Division next season. We’ve lots of fund-raising ideas and we are supporting any bid made by Paul Davies.

“We’re going to lose nearly every single player in the summer and Paul will be able to bring in 15-20 players in.

“They will be players on reasonable money instead of ridiculous money and we also need to look at ways of the club generating money as nothing comes through the gate.”


Gretna residents are holding a meeting tonight to discuss the future of the club at the Richard Greenhow centre at 7pm. Tonight’s meeting is not linked to the Gretna Supporters’ Society.

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mortonjag 2008-04-17 13:54:20
QUOTE(marxist_ton @ Apr 17 2008, 11:32 AM) [snapback]435306[/snapback]
Rangers are just bad losers. Didn't see these kind of scenes when Celtic got beat at Ibrox.

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mortonjag 2008-04-17 14:06:43 So what causes more social unrest, violence and mysery, alcohol or drugs? Overall I'd have to say alcohol.


That was the question posed by Pimpleknob.

The answer-beyond the tiniest shadow of doubt, and proven by every study carried out, if common sense was not enough, is alcohol.

It never fails to amaze me how a simple question can produce such complicated and confused thinking!

Of course there's a dual morality about booze because it's a 'legal' drug, but addiction to any drug is an illness.

The global damage caused in our society by alcohol abuse makes the 'junkie' problem very small in comparison.
mortonjag 2008-04-17 14:11:39
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 17 2008, 12:49 PM) [snapback]435341[/snapback]
Something occurred today at First Ministers Questions that I have never seen before in my life.
Wendy was questioning First Minister Alex Salmond. As usual Salmond was completely wrong footing her.
When it came to her 3rd and final question to the FM. She simply by this time had run out of idea's. To her complete embarrassment, she stood up and said " I have no further questions to ask" !!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

I have never in any political arena witnessed an opposition leader not being able to ask a question to their opponents.
I do not know the words to describe this utter embarrassment for the Labour Party.

How on earth can they be happy with this complete humiliation ?

Great to watch though tongue.gif

Have you managed to get home safely Claymore C*ck?


I really can't fault your devotion to Bawheid!
mortonjag 2008-04-17 14:19:26
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Apr 17 2008, 02:11 PM) [snapback]435369[/snapback]
With all due respect to both Mick and Barbarossa, I'm sure John Wilson had no intention of selling the club to a fly by night character either. But the fact is he did, he was conned like a great many people and he detested Scott for conning him.
We could easily find ourselves in the hands of some other fly by night, a wolf in sheep's clothing, one who bears gifts who does not have any affiliation to the club other than he has relations in Greenock . As the old adage goes "Trust not their presents, nor admit their horse".

Old shoogly may have his faults but his heart is in the right place and I'll settle for that anytime. I don't think he's the best man to take us forward by any manner of means. But any of the other names mention just fill me with fear and dread.
There has to be another way for our club or else we will continue to under perform to the point where the fans stop going in numbers.
This club has been under performing for years in comparison to clubs of a similar size and the blame for that has to be laid fair and squarely with the board. Which in our case over the years has been the majority shareholder whom ever that may be. It's time for a change and the responsibility for that lies with the only constant at this club and that's the fans. They have to demand change and they can't do that divided. They need a strong voice to speak for them.

Dougie's Dalmation in emotive plea for sympathy.
mortonjag 2008-04-17 14:26:07
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Apr 17 2008, 02:20 PM) [snapback]435374[/snapback]
I agree with the part highlighted. Wake has come in and tried and his approach is refreshing when you compare him with the likes of Weatherson.

I'd keep him in the team for Dunfermline but I still don't think he is the answer long term.

Let's face it, in terms of ability Wakey and Spoonsy are poles apart.

There is, therefore, something far wrong at Cappielow, when most of us would rather have Khali start this Saturday.

Oh-and JM's long gone!
mortonjag 2008-04-17 14:41:53 How can there possibly be any BENEFIT in having to be involved in 'play offs' for our first division survival?


Only a very small number of cynics predicted relegation at the beginning of this season, yet they seem to have been much closer to the mark than the majority.

Forgetting the relative merits or otherwise of David Irons, Rae allowed things to get well out of control before anything changed, and if we are to believe him (not that any sane person ever believes a word he utters) he did not want to see JM go.

Rae will no doubt make more pronouncements in this Saturdays Shoogly Peg notes. For those of you who enjoy comedy, the £2.50's well worth it. dry.gif

mortonjag 2008-04-17 14:45:04
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Apr 17 2008, 02:18 PM) [snapback]435372[/snapback]
It's lurve....

It must be lurve, lurve, lurve! huh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-17 14:57:06
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 17 2008, 02:04 PM) [snapback]435365[/snapback]
i've only been to three megacities, and i'd rate london as my least liked. just don't like the vibe, really.

and by vibe i mean people.

Just as they dislike 'The Scotch'!
mortonjag 2008-04-17 15:01:56
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Apr 17 2008, 02:27 PM) [snapback]435377[/snapback]
Woo Hoo! biggrin.gif

Morton 4-Dunfermline 0

LEAFY 2, Khali 1 Finlayson (PEN)!


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mortonjag 2008-04-17 15:29:56
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 17 2008, 03:22 PM) [snapback]435383[/snapback]
Will he bring his guide dog and stick as well? tongue.gif

Euan Norris

Date of Birth: 29 October 1977

Height: 5' 8"

Weight: 12 st

Profession: Business Analyst

First ever match: Douglasdale v. Stonehouse Cross Keys

First international match: Scotland v. Holland (Schoolboy International)

Career highlights OVD Scottish Junior Cup Semi-Final 2002/03
Linlithgow Rose v Bo’ness United
Referee

OVD Scottish Junior Cup Final 2003/04
Carnoustie v Tayport
Assistant Referee

OVD Scottish Junior Cup Final 2004/05
Tayport v Lochee United
Assistant Referee

What does being a football referee mean to you? A unique hobby that allows me to participate at a level of football that would not otherwise have been achieved as a player.

Why did you become a referee? After playing Junior Football, decided that my playing abilities were limited and saw refereeing as an opportunity to further myself in football.

Would you have wished to become a full-time referee? Being a full-time referee would be a dream come true, just like any professional footballer, you would be employed for doing something that you love.

Any pet hates in football? No, I enjoy every aspect of football and refereeing.

What Law of the Game would you change? None

The most difficult Law to apply? Probably the most mis-understood law is that of a player being sent off or not, for denying what if deemed by the referee to being an obvious goal-scoring opportunity. Time and time again players, coaches & fans refer to the “last man”, a term that does not exist in the laws of the game.

Your best memory in football? Transporting the Champions League Trophy through Glasgow the night before the final between Bayer Leverkusen v Real Madrid in 2002.

Other sports or hobbies? Enjoy walking, golfing and cycling however due to refereeing commitments don’t get to participate as much as I would like.

Your main strength? Love of football.

And main weaknesses? That would be telling!

What's in your car CD player? Coldplay

Beer or wine? Wine

Favourite film? Top Gun

Tastiest food? Anything Italian

Favourite holiday destination? Florida

Luck or judgement? You need a bit of both

Dress up or dress down? Dress down

Whom would you most like to meet? I've never thought about it

Ambitions? To own a holiday home in Florida

Any advice for young referees? Give it your best; the rewards for top referees today are enormous.


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mortonjag 2008-04-17 15:38:18 We've been doing 'no bad' but just can't find that wee bit extra-will it come against the Pars?

Will Spoonsy be dropped and crying in his beer? Will Wakey score a hero's hat trick? Will Alex Walker finally get an overdue game? Will Shoogly appear on pitch, microphone in hand, pleading for calm?


Predictions please!

The Monkey says 2-1

Fing says 1-1

Mortonjag hasn't a clue! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-17 15:52:59
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Apr 17 2008, 03:43 PM) [snapback]435394[/snapback]
Not sympathy MJ just understanding and respect for what he has done at Cappielow. He may not have done the right thing every time but you have to respect what he has done.
He may not be the nicest of characters to deal with but then you either accept that and move on and agree to disagree or just be totally negative about the man and throw your toys out the pram.
I don't like particularly like your condescending attitude but it would be a boring place if we were all the same.

That's where you're wrong-how can I possibly be asked to respect somebody whose stewardship of our Club has progressed to the farcical?

What exactly is meant by that stupid comment 'his heart's in the right place'?

He's only doing what he believes is right-is that it-just like Hitler and every bloody paedo who's prowled our playgrounds?

NO, NO, NO! mad.gif

Oh, and you are a total conundrum if you dislike condescension, while happily sitting and begging to Shooglemeister's command 'Spotty'! tongue.gif

mortonjag 2008-04-17 16:02:25
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 17 2008, 03:58 PM) [snapback]435397[/snapback]
Naw, this was wee Wendy's day laugh.gif

The old adage, better to stay silent and have people think you are a fool, than open your mouth and prove it beyond doubt, was maybe what she was working on .... rolleyes.gif

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Not something that's ever crossed Bawheid's mind! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-17 17:40:15
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Apr 17 2008, 04:18 PM) [snapback]435404[/snapback]
I have never in my 30 odd years visiting my sis's in London heard one Londoner say they do not like us, in fact the polar opposite was true, until recently when my family down there have noticed slight hostility towards the scottish never experienced in their time there..but this is due to neddish behaviour from a tiny minority, misrepresenting us in our need and desire for Independence. Fortunately intelligence has prevailed smile.gif

Exactly my point-you will find the odd Londoner who has funny ideas about 'the Scotch' but in general they're far more accepting of us than we are of them.
mortonjag 2008-04-17 17:49:01
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 17 2008, 04:11 PM) [snapback]435401[/snapback]
Had to get Dougie in there didn't you.

And have you decided Weatherson isn't and never was a striker? wink.gif


I never disappoint him!

My opinion of Spoonsy's ability has not changed.


QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Apr 17 2008, 04:27 PM) [snapback]435409[/snapback]
Most accurate statement you've ever made on here - took you just under 18,000 attempts though. laugh.gif laugh.gif

I just wondered which mug would be first to reply in that vein-hence the wink.gif with the comment!

Well done Smiffy! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-17 17:52:55
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Apr 17 2008, 04:41 PM) [snapback]435414[/snapback]
I must ask, then: What exactly is it that we should do? Just allow the Rae family to stumble along blindly, just in case another chancer comes along? dry.gif If we do that we'll end up totally buggered. What if the next guy turns out to actually be good??

Surely the most viable hope is that Rae senior takes a sidestep, while Alistair Donald and Crawford get on with running the club. Nothing is guaranteed, but I can't believe it would be worse than what we've been served up by Daddy.
mortonjag 2008-04-17 18:14:29
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Apr 17 2008, 06:09 PM) [snapback]435443[/snapback]
and inaccurate. It is Koreans who eat dugs.



Animals Asia Foundation has been concerned with this issue for a long time - their strategy so far has been to raise respect for dogs by promoting Dr Dog and Detective Dog programmes in Hong Kong, Mainland China, Taiwan and Korea. They have also carried out investigations on dog slaughter in China, Korea and Vietnam.
mortonjag 2008-04-18 07:01:03 From today's 'Herald'.




Family’s ‘hell’ over son’s assault charge


The father of a Down's syndrome teenager with a mental age of five said yesterday his family had been through "pure hell" after his son was charged with a racist assault.

Jamie Bauld, 18, was accused of attacking an Asian pupil at his special needs school. The case was eventually dropped more than seven months later.

But his parents, Jim and Fiona Bauld, said the complaint should never have been taken so far in the first place.


They described the allegation as "nonsense" and that Jamie had simply pushed the girl away as she approached him while eating lunch.

The family, from Cumbernauld in Lanarkshire, described the incident as "like two five-year-olds having an argument," and criticised prosecutors over their handling of the incident.

Mr Bauld said: "It was so ridiculous. When we spoke to the procurator-fiscal's office, it was a case of so what?' "They were not interested. It was pure hell. It has dragged on for eight months and we're delighted it's over now."

The incident happened at Motherwell College on September 4 last year. Jamie's mother, his full-time carer, said he had complained earlier about an Asian girl following him and staring at him.

When she approached him one lunchtime he pushed her away with his hand and told her to go away. The college informed Jamie's parents that he and the girl had been reprimanded over the incident.

The Baulds then heard a notice had been placed in a local newspaper appealing for witnesses to a racial assault and two police officers later interviewed Jamie.


Mr Bauld said they assured the family that the case would come to nothing but after the visit they received a letter from the procurator-fiscal saying they had enough evidence to charge his son.

Mr Bauld said: "When the police came to the door I let them in, thinking they just wanted to speak to Jamie. Then they began reading him his rights."

Down's Syndrome Scotland, director Pandora Summerfield said: "We understand there are formal guidelines the police should be following in terms of interviewing vulnerable adults and that these were not followed in this case.

"We will be writing to the justice minister, raising a number of points as a result of this particular case."



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mortonjag 2008-04-18 07:08:31
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 17 2008, 07:30 PM) [snapback]435477[/snapback]
Season tickets are not valid for the play offs I asked the club and got a quick reply

No more than I'd have expected from that Shyster Shoogly. A further failure to win the fans' approval. Does he imagine the stand's going to be packed like a sardine tin? mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-18 07:14:52
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 17 2008, 08:27 PM) [snapback]435503[/snapback]
let's all hold hands and try to contact the living

Aren't you confusing seance with wake?
mortonjag 2008-04-18 07:19:57
QUOTE(diablo ton 1 @ Apr 18 2008, 12:05 AM) [snapback]435649[/snapback]
Great quote by SmithsTON. LOL

Mortonjag, you walked into that one......did you not see it coming?? Obviously not...

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mortonjag 2008-04-18 07:20:46
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Apr 18 2008, 04:27 AM) [snapback]435715[/snapback]
I've backed us and Hamilton for my double this week. Probably a bit of a kiss of death as Morton have bust my coupon just about every week since the turn of the year. unsure.gif

I reckon Hamilton and ourselves will both win 2-0 meaning it's even stevens going into the final game. ohmy.gif

Ideally we'll turn in our performance of the season and rattle 5 past the Pars as Clyde completely implode at NDP. biggrin.gif

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mortonjag 2008-04-18 07:32:47
SHOOGLY KNOWS BEST
mortonjag 2008-04-18 07:36:45
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Apr 17 2008, 09:04 PM) [snapback]435535[/snapback]
I drink far too much, usually in binges, and have yet to rob someone at syringe point. Take from that what you will.

Is that a Greenock pub?
mortonjag 2008-04-18 07:43:53
QUOTE(Mick @ Apr 17 2008, 10:48 PM) [snapback]435591[/snapback]
If you're carrying a little around the waste then you'll feel it in the lower back especially. I talk from experience and tend to find that plenty of stretching does the trick. If it persists then try some non-contact exercise (cycling etc) before going back to the running.

As for the posture at your desk: Really your facilities department should be sorting that out for you. Your chair should be at the right height to ensure knees at right angles, arms able to rest flat on the desk. Top of your monitor shouldn't be higher than the top of your head etc etc....

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mortonjag 2008-04-18 07:48:31 I'd suggest that congenital alopecia afflicting young men IS a disability, just like the baldness caused by chemotherapy.

Normal male (androgenic) baldness is normal!

mortonjag 2008-04-18 07:51:26
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Apr 17 2008, 11:04 PM) [snapback]435596[/snapback]
I can't quite make my mind up. If he is not he's very damn good! If he is, he's doing a good enough job to make this sax player wonder!!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=h-wdwpeK4ug&...feature=related

He's more jerky than a plooky kid having his first w**k.

Air guitar for that one!
mortonjag 2008-04-18 07:52:58
QUOTE(Dr Zhivago @ Apr 17 2008, 11:32 PM) [snapback]435614[/snapback]
Well done Mortonjag... I took your advice (it was pretty much what I was thinking of doing, but I didn't have a bradawl - borrowed one), flushing as normal - you cured my toilet!

Mortonjag talks expert sh*te! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-18 07:56:12 My brother lives in London where he teaches Art. I've often gone out to his local with him when visiting, and found myself very welcome-even if I always politely refuse to buy those bloody Jellied Eels!
mortonjag 2008-04-18 08:04:16
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 18 2008, 05:19 AM) [snapback]435718[/snapback]
what ?

she is not a gymnast ! ? !

I thought as much.

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If the age of the Willie, young Newton
Is less than the thing that it's Putin
It doesn't feel well
And tends to rebel
Indeed it may give up on shootin.

mortonjag 2008-04-18 08:08:21
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 18 2008, 01:03 AM) [snapback]435699[/snapback]
i always wanted to be average

...but could never quite lower myself! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-18 08:09:47 now is not the time to discuss such matters as ...


I'm aiming for 20,000 before we get through the play offs.
mortonjag 2008-04-18 08:35:06
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 18 2008, 08:29 AM) [snapback]435743[/snapback]
He's playing

Thought you were a bag blower!
mortonjag 2008-04-18 08:38:58
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 18 2008, 08:23 AM) [snapback]435740[/snapback]
mortonjag, you may have chosen the wrong profession back in the 1960s.

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With your ability to write lyrics you would have been Paisley's answer to Bob Dylan.

Donovan Leech has nothing on you.

smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif


I'm just mad about Saffron.
A-Saffron's mad about me.
I'm-a just mad about Saffron.
She's just mad about me.

They call me Mellow Yellow,
Quite rightly.
They call me Mellow Yellow,
Quite rightly.
They call me Mellow Yellow.

I'm just mad about Frontine.
A-Frontine's mad about me.
I'm-a just mad about-a Frontine.
A-She's just mad about me.

They call me Mellow Yellow.
They call me Mellow Yellow,
Quite rightly.
They call me Mellow Yellow.

Born-a high forever to fly.
Wind-a velocity nil.
Born-a high forever to fly.
If you want your cup, I will fill.

They call me Mellow Yellow,
Quite rightly.
They call me Mellow Yellow,
Quite rightly.
They call me Mellow Yellow.

So mellow yellow..

Electrical banana
Is gonna be a sudden craze.
Electrical banana
Is bound to be the very next phase.

They call it Mellow Yellow,
Quite rightly.
They call me Mellow Yellow,
Quite rightly.
They call me Mellow Yellow.

Saffron, yeah.
I'm just-a mad about her.
I'm-a just-a mad about-a Saffron.
She's just mad about me.

They call me Mellow Yellow,
Quite rightly.
They call me Mellow Yellow,
Quite rightly.
They call me Mellow Yellow.

Oh, so yellow..
Oh, so mellow..



Poor old Donovan-spaced out and mellow! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-18 08:45:54 If we can just find a dead ringer for Mr Norris in time-£10 to him and £50 to the real ref, and we'll be on easy street! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-18 08:52:50
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 18 2008, 08:46 AM) [snapback]435752[/snapback]
naw.

Yer wrong wee jag.

Shoogly Knows All (FA)

Has Shoogly offended you, young man?


SHOOGLY'S HEART'S IN THE RIGHT PLACE



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mortonjag 2008-04-18 08:59:24
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 18 2008, 08:54 AM) [snapback]435754[/snapback]
No, he wont.



There were hugs and tears, champagne uncorked, toasts. Nicola Sturgeon, resplendent in a red suit, looked elatedly shell-shocked. Moira Salmond, already thinking about the possibilities of coalition, said she rather have a Nicola than a Nicol as her husband's deputy first minister. Meanwhile, Alex Salmond raised a glass to his hard-working, underpaid, knackered staff. The hour was 5.30pm; the date the fourth of May, 2007. Mark it well.



Nicola, I imagine would Soutar more! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-18 09:00:58
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 18 2008, 08:58 AM) [snapback]435757[/snapback]
Some times I think pc goes too far , in this case it clearly has, in trying to class that as a racially aggrevated attack.
Havent they got better things to do..................like catch criminals.

It's all to do with brown trousers. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-18 09:03:09
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 18 2008, 08:58 AM) [snapback]435756[/snapback]
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Not I, mate ... others !!

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Is Shoogly still a practising Methodist?
mortonjag 2008-04-18 09:06:09
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 18 2008, 09:01 AM) [snapback]435762[/snapback]
You silly old goat ! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Moira is, I'd imagine, one of life's gentle people, who's quite happy to run after her little boy, attending to his (almost) every need! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-18 09:07:20
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 18 2008, 09:04 AM) [snapback]435764[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-04-18 09:15:56
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 18 2008, 09:10 AM) [snapback]435771[/snapback]
How dare you sir! The port is a lovely place and fairly raises the tone of anotherwise deprived district! tongue.gif

Seriously the ammount of weapons being used in this area is scandalous! The neds need dealt with by the justice system , long sentences to served fully.

First offence-birching

Second offence-put in the recycling mincer after being skinned alive. Skins to be used to make new 'birches' and save our trees.
mortonjag 2008-04-18 09:18:12
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 18 2008, 09:14 AM) [snapback]435773[/snapback]
Are you drawing me a stinker??? laugh.gif

The only thing I'm bad at is drawing!

Nah-just mention racial abuse to any authority and the knickers are ritually creamed!
mortonjag 2008-04-18 09:54:11
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 18 2008, 09:13 AM) [snapback]435772[/snapback]
Mrs Salmond is indeed a very nice lady , and unlike Cherie Blair prefers to stay in the background ! and I am sure she caters for ALL our gallant leaders needs!

Bawheid may indeed be asexual.
mortonjag 2008-04-18 09:56:31
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Apr 18 2008, 09:44 AM) [snapback]435779[/snapback]
Seems like an interesting tactic....... huh.gif





"Labour MSPs and officials insisted it was not the case that Ms Alexander did not have a final question, but that it was a prepared ploy not to ask one. as Claymore C*ck needed cheering up.
mortonjag 2008-04-18 10:00:03
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Apr 18 2008, 09:49 AM) [snapback]435784[/snapback]
I'm sure they will all be of a quality Keats would be proud of.



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Give me women, wine, and snuff
Until I cry out "hold, enough!"
You may do so sans objection
Till the day of resurrection:
For, bless my beard, they aye shall be
My beloved Trinity.

-- John Keats

mortonjag 2008-04-18 10:02:20
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Apr 18 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]435785[/snapback]
Would you like pictures of the wounds put up?

Good idea Mr McArthur. BLOODY good idea!
mortonjag 2008-04-18 10:04:27
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 18 2008, 09:56 AM) [snapback]435789[/snapback]
please insert the missing apostrophe ASAP.

Just to ensure that no one gets the wrong impression.

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leaders'.

There!
mortonjag 2008-04-18 10:05:36
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 18 2008, 09:59 AM) [snapback]435792[/snapback]
as distinct from physically insane ? ?

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Every time young Deegan argues, he ties himself in knots.
mortonjag 2008-04-18 10:06:46
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Apr 18 2008, 10:04 AM) [snapback]435800[/snapback]
She's possibly gone for the old 'less is more' tactic. Now who else could benefit from that? Hmmmmmm........ blink.gif

Shoogly? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-18 10:08:32
QUOTE(Rossco @ Apr 18 2008, 10:03 AM) [snapback]435798[/snapback]
With or without Damians law if they catch the guy who done the stabbing its attempted murder.

Whilst I agree in principle with Damians law if people feel need to get tooled up they will & even with a law in place that bangs up people for carrying knives its not going to stop people carrying them.

That is undoubtedly true. We must adopt means of stopping those feelings!
mortonjag 2008-04-18 10:12:25 The only Be Bo I know about is this


Be Baw Babbity

Be Baw Babbity

1.
Be baw babbity,
Babbity, babbity,
Be baw babbity,
Kiss the bonnie wee lassie.

2.
B O Babbity, babbity, babbity,
B O Babbity, babbity, busty barley.

Kneel down, kiss the ground,
Kiss the ground, kiss the ground,
Kneel down, kiss the ground,
Kiss a bonnie lassie.

3.
Be Bo Babbity, Babbity, Babbity,
Be Bo Babbity, Babbity Bouster, Boully.
Kneel down and kiss the ground, kiss the ground, kiss
the ground,
Kneel down and kiss the ground, kiss a bonnie lassie.
Take any one you choose, sir, you choose, sir, you
choose, sir,
Take any one you choose, sir, the fairest in the ring.

4.
Bee, baw, babbity,
Babbity, babbity,
Bee, baw, babbity,
Bab at the bowster brawly.

Kneel down, kiss the ground,
Kiss the ground, kiss the ground,
Kneel down, kiss the ground,
Kiss a bonnie wee lassie.

I wadna hae a laddie O,
A laddie O, a laddie O,
I wadna hae a laddie O,
I'll choose a bonnie wee lassie.

Do our youngsters still delight in those lovely pastimes?
mortonjag 2008-04-18 10:14:31
QUOTE(Edinton @ Apr 18 2008, 10:12 AM) [snapback]435808[/snapback]
One more step out of line from you and I'm resetting your post count!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey you-what's with the Danny McGrain Avatar?
mortonjag 2008-04-18 10:16:59
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Apr 18 2008, 10:14 AM) [snapback]435810[/snapback]
If by 'Shoogly' you mean Mortonjag, then yes.

Don't be silly McArthur-there's only one Auld Shoogly


One Auld Shoogly.
There's only one Auld Shoogly,
One Auld Shoogly.


Are you up for it? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-18 10:18:36
QUOTE(Edinton @ Apr 18 2008, 10:16 AM) [snapback]435813[/snapback]
That's not Danny McGrain, it's me... I got that tee shirt made when I took over as admin

You've got younger then!
mortonjag 2008-04-18 10:20:59
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Apr 18 2008, 08:32 AM) [snapback]435744[/snapback]
Been thinking about if the team are struggling on the park then we fans should try and do something to help the team win. Despite thinking about this for a few days I have only come up with one idea- and it's s***e!

Get a loaf of bread and at some point during the second half, start throwing bread towards Paul Gallagher and let the seagulls do the business- just got this image of Paul Gallagher being attacked by a flock of gulls while the goals start raining in- any other ideas?

There is actually a very serious aspect to this. The seagulls used to perch on the cowshed roof in large numbers during our games. Recently they have been posted missing.
mortonjag 2008-04-18 10:22:53
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 18 2008, 10:21 AM) [snapback]435819[/snapback]
Crawler! tongue.gif

The Newt must be obeyed-sometime's! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-18 10:46:11
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 18 2008, 10:29 AM) [snapback]435822[/snapback]
Well as our resident online doctor you are qualified to know where DDFR's heart is . The problem is that its not his heart thats called into question .







Oh doctor, I'm in trouble.
Well, goodness gracious me. For every time that Shoogly
Is standing next to me.
Mmm?
A flush comes to my face
And my pulse begins to race,
It goes boom boody-boom boody-boom boody-boom
Boody-boom boody-boom boody-boom-boom-boom,
Boom boody-boom boody-boom boody-boom
Well, goodness gracious me.

How often does this happen?
When did the trouble start?
You see, my stethoscope is bobbing
To the throbbing of your heart.
What kind of man is he
To create this allergy?
It goes boom boody-boom boody-boom boody-boom
Boody-boom boody-boom boody-boom-boom-boom,
Oh!
Boom boody-boom boody-boom boody-boom
Well, goodness gracious me.

From New Delhi to Darjeeling
I have done my share of healing,
And I've never yet been beaten or outboxed,
I remember that with one jab
Of my needle in the Punjab
How I cleared up beriberi
And the dreaded dysentery,
But your complaint has got me really foxed.
Oh.

Oh doctor, touch my fingers.
Well, goodness gracious me.
You may be very clever
But however, can't you see,
My heart beats much too much
At a certain tender touch,
It goes boom boody-boom boody-boom boody-boom
Boody-boom boody-boom boody-boom-boom-boom,
I like it!
Boom boody-boom boody-boom boody-boom
Well, goodness gracious me.

Can I see your tongue?
Aaah.
Nothing the matter with it, put it away please.
Maybe it's my back.
Maybe it is.
Shall I lie down?
Yes.
Ahhh...

My initial diagnosis
Rules out measles and thrombosis,
Sleeping sickness and, as far as I can tell,
Influenza, inflammation,
Whooping cough and night starvation,
And you'll be so glad to hear
That both your eyeballs are so clear
That I can positively swear that you are well,
Ja-ja, ja-ja-ja-ja.

Put two and two together,
Four,
If you have eyes to see,
The face that makes my pulses race
Is that of Shoogly
Oh, there is nothing I can do
For my heart is jumping too.
Oh, we go boom boody-boom boody-boom boody-boom
Boody-boom boody-boom boody-boom-boom-boom,
Goodness gracious,
How audacious!
Goodness gracious,
How flirtatious!
Goodness gracious,
It is you?
Ah, I'm sorry, it is him.
Ahhh
mortonjag 2008-04-18 10:49:53
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 18 2008, 10:36 AM) [snapback]435824[/snapback]
Stop hijacking this thread ya old duffer mad.gif

I'd rather be a Shoogly than a quail!
mortonjag 2008-04-18 10:51:46
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Apr 18 2008, 10:38 AM) [snapback]435828[/snapback]
Was watching sky news or news 24 yesterday and it was on the subject of knife crime, it was stating Red Ken was going to get tough on the possession of weapons and introduce mandatory sentences for carrying them, then they pan to some stupid cow in a shoogly studio stating that the perpetrators of knife crimes are often previous victims and that a better understanding of the reasons for carrying weapons needs to be addressed, jeezo I thought she was going to propose state subsidised Rambo knives or even carving classes, wake up and smell the coffee you stupid bint.

...being milked dry by the big man?
mortonjag 2008-04-18 10:53:42
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Apr 18 2008, 10:43 AM) [snapback]435832[/snapback]
Is the final verse of that not a plan made up by Gary Glitter? huh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-04-18 10:55:02
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Apr 18 2008, 10:47 AM) [snapback]435837[/snapback]
Who cares?

They usually sent half decent teams and meant that the players involved got a bigger pay day.

I remember going to Martin Doak's testimonial as a 12 year old. At that time I'd go to the odd Morton game and I know for a fact neither my Mum, my three younger brothers or I would have been there that night if the game wasnt against Rangers with players like Ally McCoist and Duncan Ferguson playing (It would've been the same if it was againt Celtic before anyone accuses me of being a Rangers sympathiser).

It was nights like that one that actually hooked me on Morton games and got me going along regularly.

Totally agree-the Tims would have served the purpose equally well.
mortonjag 2008-04-18 10:56:57
QUOTE(Carl Bertelson @ Apr 18 2008, 10:49 AM) [snapback]435838[/snapback]
This is one of the best threads I've read on here for a long long time, very reminiscent of Eddie's unofficial website.
A lot of very sensible discussion, for a change. As long as certain individuals, you know who you are, don't lower the tone of the discussion.

Indeed-anything about Mr Rae must be dealt with in awe and humility. wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-18 10:59:47
QUOTE(Yoda @ Apr 18 2008, 10:54 AM) [snapback]435844[/snapback]
Yet another do-gooder trying to justify her own existence and employment, "we need a study into the cause" my arse. It never ceases to amaze me what pish they will come out with next. "oh he's not a bad boy - he just fell in with the wrong company" or "he's had a hard life and that's why he turned to heroin" absolute s***e.

Make them suffer the way their victims and victims families suffer. I am not saying that after considerable rehabilitation they should not be given a second chance, but they have to show a willingness and ability to make right what they have done wrong. But what rips my knitting more than anything else is these bloody do gooders trying to justify to themselves and the rest of society why they did it - THEY DO IT BECAUSE THEY ARE BAD WEE BARSTEWARDS WHO HAVE NO CONCEPT OF RIGHT OR WRONG AND NO IDEA OF HOW TO FUNCTION IN SOCIETY WITH THE MAJORITY OF LAW ABIDING PEOPLE.

We are in severe danger of becoming a society where good people do bad things in order to protect themselves and their own.

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mortonjag 2008-04-18 11:08:32
QUOTE(Yoda @ Apr 18 2008, 11:02 AM) [snapback]435851[/snapback]
ok why the perpetrators did it

I shouldn't rant tongue.gif

I wasn't actually picking you up on that double entendre-just thought you put it in a very amusing manner!


IMHO 75% of Social Work expenditure is a total waste.
mortonjag 2008-04-18 11:37:13
QUOTE(18-deano-ehm-74 @ Apr 18 2008, 11:29 AM) [snapback]435863[/snapback]
Get bright orange ones like that wee c*** that plays for Livi laugh.gif

And bleach your hair tongue.gif

...and become an instant wee c*nt! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-18 12:14:06 What I want to know is this-


DID Nukie Mairi eat the dog or not?
mortonjag 2008-04-18 12:20:58 Barbara Streisand

The Way We Were


Memories light the corner of my mind.
Misty water color memories
Of the way we were.

Scattered pictures of the smiles we left behind,
Smiles we gave to one another
For the way we were.

Can it be that it was all so simple then,
Or has time rewritten every line?
If we had the chance to do it all again,
Tell me? would we? could we?



Memories may be beautiful and yet,
What's too painful to remember
We simply choose to forget.

So it's the laughter
We will remember,
Whenever we remember
The way we were;
The way we were.



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mortonjag 2008-04-18 12:26:38
QUOTE(RadolfZitler @ Apr 18 2008, 12:18 PM) [snapback]435879[/snapback]
Spot on!

Ve have vays of making them to stop Mr Zitler-zee Birch vil virk vell--------for zee rest vee have zee shootten dedz.
mortonjag 2008-04-18 12:39:06
QUOTE(RadolfZitler @ Apr 18 2008, 12:32 PM) [snapback]435885[/snapback]
Yip too many binge drink but those who do then cant stop are just junkies they just use a different drug which is all to easily accepted because its legal. A man/woman addicted to alcohol is as likey to mug you to fuel their habit as a man/woman addicted to anything else. Alcohol causes just about every bit of trouble at the weekends in Inverclyde, stabbing, beatings, domestic violence etc etc theres no doubt alcohol is the worst. A recent study suggested that long term use of alcohol was worse than long term use of Ecstasy.

Don't be daft!

The rest of your post makes perfect sense.
mortonjag 2008-04-18 12:49:19
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 18 2008, 12:42 PM) [snapback]435889[/snapback]
ohmy.gif Gibby the erse watcher. I am gonna be standing right at the back of the shed with my erse to the shed wall mate after that revalation laugh.gif

I wouldn't worry too much Weegie-if he'd got close enough he'd have spotted the fact that it's just crayon. Such arse painters are well known for their inimitable ability to shift camp when the chips are down. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-18 12:55:32
QUOTE(RadolfZitler @ Apr 18 2008, 12:49 PM) [snapback]435892[/snapback]
You have the death penalty in some countires but you still have murderers. The police and courts already have the power to lock up people carrying knives its they that have to use them. I have been in a situation several times where some-one has been stabbed its not nice and living in this area its never far from home. The person carrying the knife would not have cared if their was a 2 year mandatory sentence. Something has to be done about the problem thats for sure but its much deeper than just bringing in mandatory sentencing which most of them will find a way to wriggle out of anyway. The birch would probably turn in to the new badge of honour TBH.

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Aye f*ckin' right.

'Fraid your perception of knife carrying 'hard men' is way wide of the mark, and I've seen hundreds of victims of stabbings-many of whom had also been perpetrators.

Little pink botty time would solve the problem-we wouldn't need courts-just witnesses, and WALLOP, WALLOP WALLOP till your cowardly little heroes are screaming for mercy AND THEN SOME.

Badge of honour!


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mortonjag 2008-04-18 15:47:14
QUOTE(nach0king @ Apr 18 2008, 01:31 PM) [snapback]435925[/snapback]
If anyone at the club tries to polish the turd that is the play-off then I for one won't be happy. The fact that ew're in this mess must be regarded only as a negative.

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HE WILL! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-18 15:49:19
QUOTE(suda @ Apr 18 2008, 02:08 PM) [snapback]435938[/snapback]
yeah maybe MJ will be bumping gums at Dougie that should create plenty of atmosphere

Not the time and place! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-18 15:52:54
QUOTE(ianton @ Apr 18 2008, 02:09 PM) [snapback]435940[/snapback]
Davie that's why he's been on my ignore for months now.he's a total dickhead.

Hee hee-another huff button clown boasting-what a shower of weak kneed little helmets! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-18 15:54:00
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 18 2008, 02:27 PM) [snapback]435943[/snapback]
Inside info mate. Can't reveal my sources wink.gif
Have to agree. They didn't look to clever that day.

They were in disarray as Kenny had just left. Things have changed.
mortonjag 2008-04-18 16:02:30
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 18 2008, 03:02 PM) [snapback]435952[/snapback]
That is it in a nutshell . We ae not talking the Russian revolution all we ae asking is that the chairman lets others do their jobs properly and for me a need to accept that things would improve if we had someone with knowledge of football to council DDFR in what are the best decisions to make for the long term .
If these changes put the club in a better position kudos to Mr Rae , we all get what we ultimately want .

Just what Mortonjag's been saying for long and weary Chris.

The old fud should still be at Cappielow, enjoying himself-for Jesus sake, he could have a bloody FOUR page spread in the programme, and I'd personally buy two bags of Buchanan's off him at every home game if he'd just DELEGATE.

Having said that, he'd need to open that big widden box under his bed too! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-18 16:05:31
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Apr 18 2008, 03:57 PM) [snapback]435979[/snapback]
No, the time and place for that would be a GMFC public meeting where opinions were invited and questions NOT answered.

No,..wait wink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-04-18 16:12:07
QUOTE(RadolfZitler @ Apr 18 2008, 01:04 PM) [snapback]435901[/snapback]
Big problem that when your living in certain areas as you already know.
I heard you loved the birch laugh.gif Surely as a Doctor you should be against harming anyone cool.gif

WHY? unsure.gif

QUOTE(.:BrIDo:. @ Apr 18 2008, 01:10 PM) [snapback]435903[/snapback]
I can see that aswell bein honest.

"Many times you had it?"

"5 times."

"f***sake man.. sore?"

"Aye man. Pure. Am hard but."

"See him, he's had it the birch 5 times... legend"

And so forth and so forth. Talk to anyone at the age of 13-16 and most of them will happily tell you about their uncle, cousin, brother or other relative who is or has been in the nick, or how they're some how related to one of the toon's nutcases. To be honest, when people say that the attitudes need changed, I think they're right, but I disagree with all the f***ing cottonwool s***e they're trying to implement. f***in beat the kids into good members of society. Alot of the time the parents don't help much either, and, as has been said, would rather blame society or X, Y and Z than their own failings.

I don't think some folk have quite grasped the concept of birching, with skinning alive and mincing for second offences.

QUOTE(ianton @ Apr 18 2008, 02:20 PM) [snapback]435942[/snapback]
fact 99% of the time it stems from the parents.lets birch them too.

What a clown you are.

FACT more than half of those wee c*nts don't know at least one parent, but by all means birch the parents too if you'd like that. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-18 16:16:19
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 18 2008, 03:14 PM) [snapback]435961[/snapback]
That was a subtle dig on Se65an's thread about
being disappointed in DDFR . For all those who never want to discuss things when they are brought up . laugh.gif

I'm sure if Shoogly got involved in our little rag, Mortonjag would soon be trailing FAR behind. He'd probably have 90% under the huff button, while the remaining sycophantic 'hard core' would polish his ego and p.m. him endlessly!
mortonjag 2008-04-18 16:19:54
QUOTE(Yoda @ Apr 18 2008, 02:04 PM) [snapback]435936[/snapback]

That's very rude.
mortonjag 2008-04-18 16:24:00
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 18 2008, 04:21 PM) [snapback]435997[/snapback]
Bloody work filters won't let me see it. Can you describe it to me please?

Two bunny rabbits indulging in oral sex (though not a la soixante neuf)!

I think one is Shoogly, but I'm not sure which one's doing the 'sookin'.
mortonjag 2008-04-18 17:24:05
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Apr 18 2008, 04:40 PM) [snapback]436015[/snapback]
Give it a rest eh

Alex Williams will NEVER play for Morton again.


End of discussion.

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mortonjag 2008-04-18 21:54:21
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 18 2008, 08:38 PM) [snapback]436131[/snapback]
Quite the contrary. Eeze are good - Ebeneezer Good. biggrin.gif About as true as 'Guinness is good for you' I reckon. Drugs (including alcohol) are only good for getting you out your face. Absolutely fine if you can manage the consequences- if not, you might wind up in trouble. But every fecker who's done drugs and drink should know that anyway. My advice is, if you want to get 'out yer face', take care not to get into anybody else's face. Don't do unto others as you do unto yourself.

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Wise words.

It's funny recalling those old adverts about Guinness being 'good for you', and 'giving you strength'!

The fag ads were even better-'Players please' and 'Let Capstan take the strain' spring to mind.


I was thinking of one for Ecstasy.


'Ees yourself gently into immortality'. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-18 22:00:25
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 18 2008, 06:17 PM) [snapback]436059[/snapback]
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mortonjag, why did you do that ?

It's totally provocative - Colkitto will be shattered.

Do you have any evidence ?

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Oh indeed Newt, Moira's tea parties are the talk of Holyrood.


'One lump or two Mr Soutar'?

'Oh don't worry Moira', pipes up the Nickerless one, everything's in place with our Brian'.

etc.
mortonjag 2008-04-18 22:02:40
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Apr 18 2008, 09:58 PM) [snapback]436164[/snapback]
At least E's don't make ye piss blood after hammering them for a week. Well, I don't think they do. Drugs are for mugs kids.

Haematuria should always be investigated!
mortonjag 2008-04-18 22:05:39
QUOTE(ton1901 @ Apr 18 2008, 05:40 PM) [snapback]436046[/snapback]
Dougie should try and strike a deal swapping dobbie with weatherson...please do so at least cause he is robbing us at the monent

For next season I'd prefer to see all 'deals' done by folk with a grain of knowledge about the running of a football club.
mortonjag 2008-04-19 07:59:01
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Apr 18 2008, 11:09 PM) [snapback]436183[/snapback]
I find Morton fans on here calling the Morton chairman "an old fud" in very bad taste, whether you like the man or not.


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What do you want us to call the old fud?

GOD


He is rapidly losing the respect of all but the total hard liners. Wake up and smell the coffee!
QUOTE(Cawston @ Apr 18 2008, 11:35 PM) [snapback]436190[/snapback]
As Donga said, whatever you think of the man the 'old fud' comment is in poor taste.

PS. 'Personally buy two bags of Buchanans's off him', don't give us your nonesense Jag.

You had the chance to get up close and personal with Ol Doug and despite all you obsessions you shat it for the second year running, don't think for a minute that it hasn't been well noted by happy clapper and boo boy alike laugh.gif laugh.gif

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F*ck you Cawstick. I have just swapped a pm with somebody who DID attend the Q & A and says he endorses my decision not to go.

He was totally disgusted by that old fud's refusal to listen,let alone answer anything unless it suited him.

Mr Rae makes sweeties, tells lies, and can't run a football club to save himself.

'Old fud' may well be a compliment.
mortonjag 2008-04-19 08:03:03
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 18 2008, 09:24 PM) [snapback]436150[/snapback]
The guy is a great advert for British imperialism sad.gif

I'm sure Shoogly would relate well to him.
mortonjag 2008-04-19 08:05:11
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Apr 18 2008, 11:17 PM) [snapback]436187[/snapback]
Are PrincessTon and Tooth and Nail providing the pies at half time?
I am most DEFINITELY getting my coat and of course mean no offence ladies!

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You show little respect for the dignity of the fairer sex hairy one.

I'd describe you as a young fud, in fact.
mortonjag 2008-04-19 08:06:50
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Apr 19 2008, 07:50 AM) [snapback]436256[/snapback]
Mind you as long as the hoops don't go green. Doglas Rae would be in paradise (pardon the pun) to see us all in the shed with blue hoops faded green.

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mortonjag 2008-04-19 08:08:56
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 18 2008, 09:21 PM) [snapback]436149[/snapback]
The Golden Lions drop in to take the flag away and kidnap Jamie Stevenson who is still in the huff since the first game .

Dougie takes to the park and thanks the Celtic supporters for their continued loyalty .

InverAlly admits hes had a crush on Morton assistant manager since she starred in the Stud .

Mark Farrell will usher the players off after 20 minutes to start work on the upgrades to the playing surface .

Cappie the Cat goes missing along with a large bag and some bricks from the stand .

Jim McInally , Adam Coakley return for a lap of honour .

Oh and I win the h-t draw

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mortonjag 2008-04-19 08:14:18
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 18 2008, 07:33 PM) [snapback]436078[/snapback]
does bacon have 4 legs ?

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Our little 'Streaky' did-he could run like the wind until we cut his throat, and chopped him up for the Barbi.

Oh and he could squeal like a pig wean with a bag of Millions.
mortonjag 2008-04-19 08:21:14
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 19 2008, 02:29 AM) [snapback]436237[/snapback]
Yes, but not enough to think you're witty.

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mortonjag 2008-04-19 08:25:27
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Apr 18 2008, 10:05 PM) [snapback]436170[/snapback]
It was. My insides were f***ed after drinking paint stripper-esque vodka with Pink Fish (a s***ey Red Bull rip off) for a week. It stopped soon after thankfully.

PINK PISH! You should have read the label!!!
mortonjag 2008-04-19 08:29:03
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 18 2008, 10:11 PM) [snapback]436172[/snapback]
Or 'Craven A - Good for your throat'. laugh.gif

Indeed that was one of THE worst!

My dad used to smoke a little known Brand called 'Barons', and of course when I flirted with fags in my teenage it was always Barons, or a threepenny single if I was skint.
mortonjag 2008-04-19 08:30:39
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 19 2008, 02:55 AM) [snapback]436243[/snapback]
I like a wee swally but it has never made me feel like attacking someone with a hammer , although that doesn't mean that I ain't had some rather worrying moments ( I was a pucker and nearly bit the dust a few times along with sleeping in some rather curious places )
Never done hash , as smoking is clatty and pill popping wasn't so widly available so I cannot really comment on what is the worst for you . I suppose it all depends on how much and how long you put your body through it .
Its easy to blame the substance rather than the people taking it , if you get the paranoid head on after a few voddies why have them ? Alcohol is in't a problem for everyone just those who make it their excuse for unacceptable behaviour .

...and those who are addicted!
mortonjag 2008-04-19 08:31:48
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 19 2008, 03:26 AM) [snapback]436246[/snapback]
Is it true that after 99,999 posts, the count resets to zero like an odometer ?

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You will find out in October.
mortonjag 2008-04-19 08:33:48
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 19 2008, 08:13 AM) [snapback]436263[/snapback]
I have some experience of working in a morgue and a stiff back is certainly a problem. although I cannot say I ever came across any of the problems highlighted in that article

I think it was more the stiffs' generalised blubber!
mortonjag 2008-04-19 08:36:05
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 19 2008, 07:15 AM) [snapback]436252[/snapback]
sad!

indeed, and that's not half of it! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-19 08:37:23
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 19 2008, 07:18 AM) [snapback]436253[/snapback]
You must be joking! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Perhaps her heart's in the right place! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-19 08:39:36
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 19 2008, 07:23 AM) [snapback]436255[/snapback]
I believe Mr MJ and possibly his monkey are already infatuated with Ms Sturgeon! laugh.gif

I'd rather shag Shoogly's wallies.

The Monkey's away being sick.
mortonjag 2008-04-19 08:42:04
QUOTE(good guy @ Apr 19 2008, 08:18 AM) [snapback]436265[/snapback]
Looks like i'm going to be late for kick off today. Anyone got any idea what time the turnstyles close?

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You're jokin'

Rae will still let you in at 4.44 p.m. if we're losin' 5-0 AND you'll be charged! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-19 08:47:34 It's been a comin' folks-we've been SO close SO often-we should have beaten Dundee, and we COULD have beaten The Saints.

The Pars are safe-they have little to play for. It's in the bag, and Clyde will be shagged rotten by the plastic playpen.

Tonight we will be in eight position. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-19 08:53:41
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 19 2008, 08:50 AM) [snapback]436278[/snapback]
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kentish man or man of kent? we should be told tongue.gif

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I do not divulge the identity of my MANY friends Trumpet!

I have, however, spoken the truth. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-19 08:59:39
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 19 2008, 08:55 AM) [snapback]436280[/snapback]
you might find that after 32767, they turn negative rolleyes.gif

Is that what happened to your w*nk tally Trumpet?
mortonjag 2008-04-19 09:04:37
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 19 2008, 08:59 AM) [snapback]436283[/snapback]
whit's a wally ?

Not a Wall's ice cream, I trust.

whit a mental image

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wallies pl n (Central Scot)
dialect false teeth; dentures
(see wally2)

Collins Eng Def-Thes


QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 19 2008, 09:00 AM) [snapback]436284[/snapback]
are you questioning her humanity ??

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She has a certain anthropoid look!
mortonjag 2008-04-19 09:06:05
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 19 2008, 09:02 AM) [snapback]436285[/snapback]
are you 100% certain ??

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Don't be daft-I was just trying to provoke intelligent discussion.
mortonjag 2008-04-19 09:09:39
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 19 2008, 09:05 AM) [snapback]436288[/snapback]
are Millions similar to Smarties ??

Smarties are manufactured by a humungous Swiss Confectionery conglomerate.

Millions are churned out by Shoogly in person at the old Torpedo Factory, and distributed Nationwide in his one delivery lorry.
mortonjag 2008-04-19 09:11:30
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 19 2008, 09:09 AM) [snapback]436291[/snapback]
well the superior stuff walks on 2, of course

Profound for this time of day Trumpet!
mortonjag 2008-04-19 09:12:44
QUOTE(good guy @ Apr 19 2008, 08:56 AM) [snapback]436281[/snapback]
Thanks thats very helpful.

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You'll get in fine!

I don't know when they stop charging.
mortonjag 2008-04-19 09:14:47
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 19 2008, 09:05 AM) [snapback]436287[/snapback]
but i'm sure all the citizens of tunbridge wells feel similarly aggrieved smile.gif

I couldn't give a f*ck about that shower of Kents.
mortonjag 2008-04-19 09:16:15
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Apr 19 2008, 09:13 AM) [snapback]436294[/snapback]
Actually I have a little bit of sympathy for Wendy. Not only is her brother Douglas more intelligent than she is but he's also better looking.

...and shaves.
mortonjag 2008-04-19 09:19:02
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 19 2008, 09:15 AM) [snapback]436296[/snapback]
See this comedy classic at 10:30am this morning on BBC Parliament. smile.gif

You'd be better off at Chez Maman, Pimpleknob!
mortonjag 2008-04-19 09:20:57
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Apr 19 2008, 09:16 AM) [snapback]436297[/snapback]
I heard there was a helicopter over the cemetery.

Dear, dear-they have absolutely no respect for our dead.
mortonjag 2008-04-19 09:22:45
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 19 2008, 09:19 AM) [snapback]436301[/snapback]
would these young Washington women increase the Cappielow crowd numbers ?

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No-the May Hughes dancers would exit in the huff and Mr Rae might get over excited!
mortonjag 2008-04-19 09:23:47
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 19 2008, 09:22 AM) [snapback]436305[/snapback]
on this forum ??

ROTFL

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Are you scorning effort? mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-19 09:25:27
QUOTE(lemmington @ Apr 19 2008, 09:23 AM) [snapback]436307[/snapback]
I thought this was a quick question?

So did I, and it was just a silly one!
mortonjag 2008-04-19 09:26:45
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Apr 19 2008, 09:24 AM) [snapback]436310[/snapback]
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I suppose it's the thought that counts though, and it's one I agree with wink.gif

BELIEVE
mortonjag 2008-04-19 09:28:46
QUOTE(good guy @ Apr 19 2008, 09:26 AM) [snapback]436314[/snapback]
Yeah, me too:angry: Seriously though might not get there till half time. Does anyone know if i'll still get in?

FFS MAN-of COURSE YOU'LL GET IN-the big gate's open and shut like Shoogly's wallies at half time-you are quite safe!
mortonjag 2008-04-19 09:30:50
QUOTE(good guy @ Apr 19 2008, 09:28 AM) [snapback]436320[/snapback]
You really are an arrogant boring old tosser.

No I'm not GG-you claim to be a season ticket holder and worry in case you'll be prevented from exercising your privilege. That, IMHO, is daft! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-19 09:32:20
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 19 2008, 09:31 AM) [snapback]436327[/snapback]
Morton win at home.

Guaranteed DE-no surprise to those in the know!
mortonjag 2008-04-19 09:39:01
QUOTE(capitanus @ Apr 19 2008, 09:31 AM) [snapback]436326[/snapback]
I havent commented on this thread yet, but i see that it has decended into another ego-trip for MortonJag. How many other threads is that dick going to hijack with his self-indulgent ramblings?

For what its worth, i'm not DDFR's biggest fan by any stretch of the imagination, and the guy has made many errors in his time at Morton, but he doesn't deserve to be compared to a Paedophile, as MortonJag done earlier in this thread. If I was DDFR or a member of his family reading through this thread I would have found that a whole load more offensive than being called a 'Fud'.

One of the things I am not happy about in recent times at Morton was the signing of Adam Coakley, who was freed at Motherwell and freed at Partick Thistle shortly afterwards without kicking a ball for them in anger, but Morton sign him. I am convinced the main reason behind Coakley coming here was for reasons other than football, namely that he has a rich father interested in investing in a football club and as a favour between two rich men, rather than because he was any good at football. As a football supporter i can accept that Hospitality, Sponsorship, Trackside Advertising, Boardroom positions etc. are bought and sold, but i want to see the team consist of players playing on merit, whether good or bad, and not because someones rich daddy is buying a dream for him.

That whole affair just cheapened Morton for me.



Dr Mortonjag to you, you ignorant wee fud-not some jumped up sugar boiler who happened to be in the right place at the right time.


Why, incidentally, is it fine for you to call our Chairman's integrity into question?

For the record (and those who are just about to jump on the bandwagon) I have never 'compared Mr Rae' to a paedophile, though Caputupanus is too dim to interpret even the clearest of English prose. wacko.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-19 09:41:52
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 19 2008, 09:26 AM) [snapback]436315[/snapback]
there is a time and a place for everything.

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I'd love to say something very naughty!
mortonjag 2008-04-19 09:45:28
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 19 2008, 09:42 AM) [snapback]436335[/snapback]
well there goes another theory, although it appears to have gone over moronjag's head rolleyes.gif

laugh.gif Mortonjag is a Medic -Trumpet-not a numbers cruncher-though do have another J Arthur as you explain! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-19 09:49:51
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Apr 19 2008, 09:38 AM) [snapback]436331[/snapback]
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That's done it, where's that Jeff Beck CD... wink.gif

Chrissiboi can be a bitch at times!
mortonjag 2008-04-19 09:50:58
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 19 2008, 09:48 AM) [snapback]436338[/snapback]
that post is rank.

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I agwee.
mortonjag 2008-04-19 09:51:40
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 19 2008, 09:49 AM) [snapback]436339[/snapback]
nothing has stopped you before.

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VERY naughty!
mortonjag 2008-04-19 09:52:57
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 19 2008, 09:47 AM) [snapback]436337[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDDon't be a clown Pimpleknob-there were nae burglar alarms in thae times.
mortonjag 2008-04-19 10:01:14 I'm afraid I can't quite get my head round the concept of the Chairman being above criticism. Week in, week out, honest young professional footballers are ripped to shreds on those forums-often for no better reason than that their face doesn't fit.

Politicians are left without a name day and daily, minority groups are laughing stock, sexism and ageism are rampant, and poor old God is pilloried relentlessly.

Call an old fud an old fud, and suddenly you've broken the 11th commandment! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-19 10:07:36
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 19 2008, 10:01 AM) [snapback]436356[/snapback]
not the clearest of english prose, but clear enough
i'm dim like capitanus, although to be fair to moronjag, the comparison involved 'every bloody paedo'



He's only doing what he believes is right-is that it-just like Hitler and every bloody paedo who's prowled our playgrounds?

What's your problem Trumpet?

'He is only doing what he thinks is right' is trotted out by the Shooglyphiles in justification of his bizarre behaviour.

Hitler, and those paedos thought/think they are right-I was merely alluding to the inaccuracy of the concept AS YOU VERY WELL KNOW-you troublemaking child.

In any case why the hostility to my comment-do you know something I don't? tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-19 10:12:24
QUOTE(capitanus @ Apr 19 2008, 10:02 AM) [snapback]436357[/snapback]
DDFR isn't a bad guy, you may not like him, you may not agree with his actions, many others on here dont and that fine. But he's hardly Jonathan King in Jackboots.

I think that if DDFR were reading your drivel he'd have found that comment pretty hurtful.

Aye, okay then. Dr. Dick Mortonjag. Does that make you feel any better?
Nobody is saying its not okay for you to question DDFRs actions. You are just making it too personal, as you always do.

Sorry Captain Rae-nae offence meant to your family.
mortonjag 2008-04-19 10:15:21
QUOTE(good guy @ Apr 19 2008, 10:04 AM) [snapback]436359[/snapback]
Its because of people like you others dont contribute and just lurk. If you thought it was a daft question you should have just ignored it. If in the future I have another I'll be sure to run it by you first so you can give it your seal of approval.

I don't think the forum was ever intended for humourless stuffed shirts-so be it.
mortonjag 2008-04-19 10:17:07
QUOTE(nach0king @ Apr 19 2008, 10:14 AM) [snapback]436368[/snapback]
Mortonjag's just typing what he thinks is right, just like every nazi and bottler.

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No, on second thoughts rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-19 10:18:11
QUOTE(Capuan @ Apr 19 2008, 10:16 AM) [snapback]436372[/snapback]
Were you out on the razz last nite?

Not at all young man-I just have this ability to see things early! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-19 10:22:12
QUOTE(Sammario @ Apr 19 2008, 10:18 AM) [snapback]436377[/snapback]
I dunno. There's so much wrong with that explanation I'm unsure where to start. The Hitler comparison is just nonsense.

The other point, let my ask for clarification. Are you saying Peadophiles think they do nothing wrong when they abuse children?

I'm saying that 'only doing what one thinks is right' is NOT a justification for any action.

Only doing what one 'knows' is right, is entirely different.

Your final point-sexual 'deviants'- be they common or garden pufes and lesbeans, or the rarer snail shaggers, believe that their urges are normal.
mortonjag 2008-04-19 10:23:15
QUOTE(capitanus @ Apr 19 2008, 10:17 AM) [snapback]436374[/snapback]
Apology accepted. rolleyes.gif

Out of interest, we all know youre a wealthy chap and not one of the wage-slaves like myself an others on here, do you have enough cash to buy into Morton if the opportunity arose?

5th amendment
mortonjag 2008-04-19 10:28:58
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 19 2008, 10:20 AM) [snapback]436378[/snapback]
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i do think you failed to make that clear, darling, don't you? no wonder you're so sorely misunderstood!

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No sweet Trumpet, I'm sorely and frequently misunderstood by clots who are too thick to understand plain English, and erroneously imagine that I personally dislike Mr Rae, when I simply DESPISE his behaviour in respect of OUR club.

Anyway it's all water off a duck's back to me. I warned in plenty of time about Mileson and McInally, and in turn took a huge amount of abuse from many of our posters, who know very well who they are.

Rae is single handedly and stubbornly dragging the club down-there-I put that quite courteously.

I'm sure the old fud will approve.
mortonjag 2008-04-19 10:38:29
QUOTE(Sammario @ Apr 19 2008, 10:33 AM) [snapback]436386[/snapback]
Of course it's not but the Hitler comparison is still ridiculous.

FFS!! You're other point is even worse! What makes a gay person a deviant? That, along with the statement on peadophiles is a sweeping generalisation.

About the peadophile comment, As Nacho has said, and in things i've also read there seems to be a recurring theme that they understand they shouldn't do what they do as it's wrong but do it because they want to. Another sweeping generalisation I know but i wouldn;t even want to start looking into whether there are any sort of stats or figures on whether a peapophole knows they're in the wrong.

Because he 'deviates'-quite simple really.

If the truth were told, there seem to be many aspects of the Chairman's behaviour which are clearly dictatorial, determined, and ruthless.

Finally don't start telling me about 'what you've read' in an attempt to contradict my knowledge of the subject.

....and don't bother with a smart one line rejoinder to that either!
mortonjag 2008-04-20 08:19:14
QUOTE(Capuan @ Apr 20 2008, 03:55 AM) [snapback]436828[/snapback]
Spot on!! I was wrong to doubt!

So what's in mortonjags crystal ball for next saturday?

There is no way we're going to Firhill for less than three points. Thistle have peaked, and McColl's looking towards next season. It's now in our hands.

It's the Clyde Stirling result which is harder to call-will Alan Moore just lie down to them, or will his boys be playing for pride?

Anyway-what the hell-no shower of second division wannabes will ever beat the mighty Ton on current form. We are SAFE and SOUND. Sort some other 'trivial' issues dry.gif and we'll be challenging for the SPL in the near future. sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 08:23:09
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 19 2008, 10:40 PM) [snapback]436716[/snapback]
today was the first time in months where ive felt the breaks went our way and we got the luck of the bounce etc.

i said to my mate just before half time when the dunfermline player missed that sitter that that miss could save our season, and in the pub later he was like " you know how you said that? well you were right ".

good thing that luck may be on our side at the most crucial time of the season.
it also just shows that if you cut out induvidual errors that cost us goals we can be as good as at least half the teams in this league.

PT talks more s***e.

We MADE our luck yesterday, and those c*nts had THREE clearances off the line. It could have been 6-0 laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 08:29:18
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Apr 19 2008, 09:13 PM) [snapback]436669[/snapback]
Just found out, I'm afraid.

Correct

QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 19 2008, 09:59 PM) [snapback]436691[/snapback]
Surely we should be starting a thread on Walker rather than MacGregor ?
Again ,I like MacGregor as a player but last week DI must have thought he was at fault for some of the goals

Another example of the management team gauging what they need from individuals .

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QUOTE(Last Boat Home @ Apr 20 2008, 12:18 AM) [snapback]436765[/snapback]
Your idea of being perceptive is my idea of being a fud and no doubt we will never agree upon this, however surely you can't argue that McGregor has given his best for Morton (limited or otherwise) through thick and thin and deserves respect accordingly!

Correct-DM has been a model professional and excellent servant to the club.

That, however, should not have blinded the powers that be to his deficiencies. Alex Walker was dealt a bum hand by JM and it's taken till now for reality to dawn. Yesterday he looked light years ahead of DM AND McLaughlin when it came to effectiveness.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 08:31:37 Walker's just another player JM ALMOST managed to ruin. Stevenson will probably make it elsewhere.

Those are but two.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 08:32:29
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Apr 19 2008, 10:23 PM) [snapback]436704[/snapback]
Walker hit the ball against McIntyre's gob (a sore one right enough) and McIntyre made a move towards Walker in an aggressive manner. Paartalu shoved him away from Walker and was booked for his efforts. I was glad to see the Assistant Referee calling the Referee's attention to McIntyre's behaviour and he was then rightly booked. Good to see Morton aren't as easily intimidated any more! wink.gif

Smiffy gets it right! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 08:35:26 If we win and the result at Broadwood is favourable, will we be tossing Mr Rae?
mortonjag 2008-04-20 08:42:20
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 19 2008, 07:01 PM) [snapback]436602[/snapback]
aah, that's much better.

now perhaps we can start to work on your attitude, mr mcmurphy smile.gif

There's nothing wrong with my attitude Trumpet, and if I was Chairman of Greenock Morton, I'd sure employ guys who could and then f*ckin' let them.


SIMPLE REALLY.

The old fud is a liability.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 08:45:05
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 19 2008, 02:01 PM) [snapback]436443[/snapback]
Toby asked 3 questions on the night the first was to ask if the chairman knew how offended how some supporters felt after comments made in his programme notes - DDFR was verging on an apology or as close as he would ever have come to one before going off in a tangent . When he returned to planet earth he had changed tracked and said he wouldn't retract anything .

The second was about Golden Caskets continued involvement and would there be any possibility of shareholders saying enough is enough - Dougie retorted with a joke about Toby buying the club and went onto say that GC is a private company .

The 3rd , Toby asked about better and earlier information with regards of preseason tours so supporters could sort out holidays . Yes was the answer but I think the 2 previous questions had irked DDFR somewhat .
I honestlt thought Toby who I have never met or spoke to put sensible questions at the q+a but if the chaiman gets irated by a supporters concerns at a q+a its no wonder he thinks that the coin throwing Celtic supporters are Scotlands Finest . When they are at the San Siro they can't throw that far ....

I went and my opinion of DDFR changed on a positive note I was thoroughly taken with Irons and Collins knowledge and understanding of the problems we have , whether they can fix them is another debate .

You were disappointed that Rae steadfastly avoided answering your questions I believe! Mortonjag made a wise decision, unlike the several hundred of his critics who rampaged over each other in eagerness to hang on the Shooglemeister's every fart. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 08:46:18
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Apr 19 2008, 08:44 PM) [snapback]436658[/snapback]
Just out of curiosity, where were you?
Nope.

However, the jag's £500p/w NHS pension could no doubt pay Blufferson's wages and send him to Celebrity Fit Club. tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-04-20 08:50:56
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Apr 19 2008, 08:53 PM) [snapback]436659[/snapback]
Didn't think his overall play was THAT good but still a dam site better than Weatherson. Got through a power of work which compensated for his heavy first touch and slow speed of thought.

There was a couple of occasions in the first half when if he'd been a bit quicker to spot a simple pass Jim and Kev respectively were both in acres of space.

The chance he hit the bar with was a sitter as well. I hope that comedy of errors doesn't come back to haunt us.

Overall, though, I'm happy with him and hope he starts again with Russell next week who incidentally should NEVER have been dropped from the team in the first place. Our best all round forward by some distance, imo.

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QUOTE(JonaTon @ Apr 19 2008, 09:01 PM) [snapback]436664[/snapback]
I agree with this Bob. In particular the part highlighted - which I think is key.

Wakey gave us everything he's got, and it aint a lot-full credit to the mighty KHALI!

It just goes to show how potent a fit and on form Spoonsy and LEAFY could be together-those who were at the Gretna cup tie at Palmerston might agree!
mortonjag 2008-04-20 08:53:34
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 20 2008, 01:17 AM) [snapback]436789[/snapback]
Could today have hammered the final nail in the coffin of Weatherson's Morton career?

hopefully it will just make him see that even with " rubbish " on the bench, he's not irreplaceable and that the team probably plays better without him.

get the feeling he's on his final chance, im not 100% sure wether i want him to take it or not.

Kicking folk when they're down is for cowards.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 08:55:31
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 19 2008, 10:47 PM) [snapback]436720[/snapback]
Did anyone else see when we were 3-0 up the ball went out for a throw and Irons ran about a quarter of the pitch to get the ball back because he wanted more goals?

along with everything else i have seen from the man this just confirmed to me that he is exactly the kind of person i want in charge of Morton.

Mr Irons is doing a lot better than Mr McInally who was the idol of the fans less than a short year ago.

Fans are odd.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 08:59:12
QUOTE(mccaff @ Apr 20 2008, 12:01 AM) [snapback]436758[/snapback]
generous ratings but lets face it dunfermline were playing a training game

Indeed-that's why they got three bookings! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 09:02:26 I don't know why you lot play this stupid wee game-it's for weans. I give them ALL ten-there was not a failure in yesterday's side.

Quite simple really! sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 09:04:38
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Apr 20 2008, 09:02 AM) [snapback]436853[/snapback]
I do agree that Walker has something to offer the team however I think his performance yesterday only highlighted his recent lack of games.

EH-he was signed from the Huns as an ATTACKING MIDFIELDER and has been used as a general dogsbody ever since. I believe Alex will make it at SPL level in time.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 09:05:40
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Apr 20 2008, 09:04 AM) [snapback]436856[/snapback]
I don't think McIntyre got booked in that incident as I'm sure he'd already got a yellow. Going by his reaction I thought it was Greacan who got booked along with Paartalu.

It was McINtyre.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 09:07:56
QUOTE(Cawston @ Apr 20 2008, 09:05 AM) [snapback]436858[/snapback]
Decision laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

You let the side down Jag, no point in kidding yourself otherwise tongue.gif

One of my friends who attended told me he now totally understands my considered decision Cawstick.

Unlike certain older 'fans' the Jag NEVER lets the side down! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 09:10:51
QUOTE(Scapaflow @ Apr 20 2008, 09:03 AM) [snapback]436855[/snapback]
No way was Walker near a 9 or 10
He was to blame for being caught out of position for the chance they had in first have(the sitter). Lucky for us the player blew the chance. Walker was a 7 at best

Golly gosh-only a SEVEN for a guy who's just come back after being wasted by JM, and who was still playing out of his natural position. His composure and forward thinking put Davie McGregor and Scott McLaughlin (two of JM's wee favourites) to shame.

10 points for him and all the rest!
mortonjag 2008-04-20 09:12:36
QUOTE(Tooth & Nail @ Apr 20 2008, 09:09 AM) [snapback]436861[/snapback]
Shows why he is our manager, he can see when changes need to be made. JM would not have done so. Well done Davie Irons biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

You'll be changing that avatar then? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 09:14:18
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Apr 20 2008, 09:00 AM) [snapback]436852[/snapback]
Given that Weatherson signedx a 3 year deal in November I doubt he'll be going anywhere soon. This may be just the kick in the arse he needs. Wake looked like a totally different player to the one who first arrived at Cappielow. His touch was great and the ball stuck to his feet, he held the ball well. Credit also to Russell who despite his inability to finish, he played really well and worked hard. The one time he was actually onside and clear on goal from the half way line, the shed side linesman raised his flag.

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Brian indeed worked his baws off!
mortonjag 2008-04-20 09:16:29
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 20 2008, 03:42 AM) [snapback]436826[/snapback]
The newspaper that reported Russian President Vladimir Putin was set to marry a gymnast lover has been shut down.

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The Moskovski Korrespondent claimed Putin had secretly divorced his wife and was engaged to former Olympian and nude model Alina Kabayeva earlier this week.

Billionaire owner Alexander Lebedev �” who, like Putin, is a former KGB agent �” closed the newspaper down after the president issued an angry denial.

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However, the publication's editors continue to defy the Kremlin, despite being forced to issue an apology.

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The Korrespondent's editor earlier resigned in protest while the deputy editor declared he stands by the story.

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Will Salmond and Nicola have this much power in an independent Scotland ?

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Only if they get their own way Newt.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 09:18:21
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 19 2008, 08:36 PM) [snapback]436655[/snapback]
Does Inverclyde not have a Neighbourhood Watch scheme ?

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It keeps a close eye on thae Pishley c*nts.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 09:20:02
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 19 2008, 08:26 PM) [snapback]436651[/snapback]
Morgue buys forklift truck for obese

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23568402-29277,00.html
He told The Sun-Herald that putrefaction - the degradation of soft tissue - was speeded up in morbidly obese patients, making handling difficult.

"A fat person will go off more quickly than a skinny person," Dr Orde said.

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Holy mackerel!
mortonjag 2008-04-20 09:21:25
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 19 2008, 08:06 PM) [snapback]436644[/snapback]
Don't be daft ya auld fanny, that was added in the 19th century.

I KNEW it wasn't original.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 09:23:06
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Apr 19 2008, 01:20 PM) [snapback]436431[/snapback]
1800 may well have been MJ himself.

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only 1679 you sicko fud!
mortonjag 2008-04-20 09:24:35
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 19 2008, 02:17 PM) [snapback]436448[/snapback]
Spammers.

Did you mean spanners? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 09:26:02
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 19 2008, 08:34 PM) [snapback]436654[/snapback]
with a name like honor todd, there was me thinking you were a single mum.

job done by the sounds of it.

Definitely sounds like a foxy lady!
mortonjag 2008-04-20 09:28:35
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Apr 19 2008, 11:15 PM) [snapback]436731[/snapback]
I guess it's games like today that make you glad you support a great club like the ton, and maybe its the finishing the first bottle of shiraz that's got me thinking about our current predicament.

But with 44m in the bank - I would quit the day job and seriously consider buying GMFC

I would keep Davy and Derek in place and give them some freedom to bring in some fresh talent - sure we proved today that we can compete - I would also give the fans a greater say on the board and how the club was run.

What, if anything would you do to change the club?

Firstly I'd buy Mr Rae an appropriate going away present, AND a lifetime season ticket for the cowshed which wouldn't cost too much I'd guess.

I'll think about the rest and come back to you.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 09:47:04
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Apr 20 2008, 09:24 AM) [snapback]436874[/snapback]
Did the polis lift him for it? ohmy.gif

Or was he grabbed by the fuzz? laugh.gif

...and charged with wearing a non regulation helmet?
mortonjag 2008-04-20 09:48:49
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 19 2008, 12:30 PM) [snapback]436421[/snapback]
Like Mr McArthur, I am secure in my own sexuality.

McArthur's into bondage too? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 09:51:52
QUOTE(Ray Von @ Apr 20 2008, 01:47 AM) [snapback]436804[/snapback]
Dave Irons is his own man, don't think he'll be bullied into buying players he doesn't want. Hopefully he'll spend the close season building his own team.

Hopefully that is true, but so is Douglas Rae and he pays the wages. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 09:54:13
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Apr 20 2008, 09:25 AM) [snapback]436875[/snapback]
Peter being 'down' is entirely self inflicted. I hope someone at Cappielow kicks him back onto his feet again, or ship him out double quick time.

Whether or not it's self inflicted is possibly up for debate, though I understand where you're coming from. Perhaps 'kicking him back onto his feet' is the wrong approach. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 10:00:58
QUOTE(Scapaflow @ Apr 20 2008, 09:31 AM) [snapback]436880[/snapback]
I don't care what you think, hes still a seven, if the pars had scored then it would have been a different game. Other players have played out of position many times this season and don't merit a 10. I am not doubting the team played well but to give all players a 10 is not right as it doesn't distiguished those who played outstanding yesterday well above others.

While I'm at it Weatherson was, is, and always will be a striker is a joke you have also mentioned on here. Wake did more today than Peter has done all season. Goes to show we can't trust your judgement.
You may as well also reply as you need to keep up your posting ratio for this board laugh.gif

Mortonjag makes provocative statements, but refrains from uttering patent inaccuracies. Only two weeks ago Wakey was being pilloried by the majority of our posters, having showed very little promise or talent. He has worked very hard and got the deserved results, but can never hold a candle to Spoonsy in terms of footballing ability.

Oh- and somebody else has already pointed out that you were talking keech about Alex Walker! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 13:23:01
QUOTE(18-deano-ehm-74 @ Apr 20 2008, 12:02 PM) [snapback]436949[/snapback]
Peter is technically brilliant, but he can be his own worst enemy sometimes

Wakey knows he isn't the most able player, but his effort and workrate can make up for it.

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mortonjag 2008-04-20 13:34:50
Whatever eases the embarrasment oh beloved wordsmith wink.gif
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Don't be daft. I.m not used to having my questions ignored by a sugar boiler.That WOULD have been red face time.

mortonjag 2008-04-20 13:37:53
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Apr 20 2008, 09:22 AM) [snapback]436870[/snapback]
John Wilson, along with DDF Rae where told about Shuggie Scott and his dodgy dealings 6 months before he took over at Cappielow, I should know, it was me who told them. When his interest first came to light I was advised by a Killie shareholder that our ground would be used for development. I shared this with both of our directors after waiting to speak to them after a game.
John Wilson basically ignored me, but DDF to his credit listened to what I had to say but ultimately my worries where ignored.
Now whether DDF tried to tell JW, I will never know, but I believe they do not get on at all now and maybe DDF blames JW for bringing us so close to our demise.

When HS came onto the pitch with a Morton scarf above his head my heart sank and the words of my Killie supporting pal echoed in my head.

The only other time I spoke with JW was the Mathie fiasco and he was ignorant and very arrogant towards the Morton fans who wanted answers. And once again DDF listened to those fans, that is why I think he will be very, very careful if he ever sells up. He is a hard nosed businessman, and I do not agree with the way he runs the club, but I trust him to make sure our future is in good hands.

Listening and hearing are different things. Rae has a history of hearing what he wants to hear. I agree, however, that he'd never deliberately sell the club down the river.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 13:40:46
QUOTE(stubaws @ Apr 20 2008, 12:18 PM) [snapback]436963[/snapback]
i think the ref should've had a quiet word and let it go as it wasn't a dirty game. well done to the linesman though, theres no way the ref could've booked paartalu then let mcintyre get away with nothing, both as 'bad' as each other in this case. would expect more from mcintyre though, guys been around for ages and is the manager, should know better. he could do with having a wee chat with his players though, was that 3 of them booked yesterday for dissent? simmons got boked within about 2 minutes of coming on!

The Pars came out after half time ready to mix it. It could have got nasty.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 13:43:42
QUOTE(piehutt @ Apr 20 2008, 10:53 AM) [snapback]436907[/snapback]
I had been fairly confident we'd have got the win. Missed a few games of late, but was upbeat about the positive reports coming from matches v Dundee an St Johnstone where it seems we were unlucky not to take more from these games.

However, there was plenty flowing, silky football played yesterday and in the end Dunfermline can count themselves fairly fortunate not to have been beaten by more than 3-0.

Also, really pleased how all the guys were aware of the goal difference situation and kept their foot on the pedal to try and get another goal which would have given us a light cushion.

Also - since Iron's has come in there is no doubt we have now become hard to beat. Whether that's just because guys are a bit more focussed or there has been genuine changes made...? Don't know, but we no longer gift goals away or collapse in games and I feel would have been well clear of relegation by now had it not been for sheer bad luck.

We've just not had a break at all! No last minute goals, teams having a big off day against us, flukey goals etc! Just nothing at all so hopefully we just about get the breaks now in the last game and get the job done next week.


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Choke!

We well and truly F*CKED them, mind you! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 13:46:10
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 20 2008, 01:16 PM) [snapback]436989[/snapback]
so is not turning up to Q&A nights to have your say about things youre not pleased with. tongue.gif

Then there are many, many, many, cowards on our forum-not least yourself! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 13:48:44
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 20 2008, 01:22 PM) [snapback]436991[/snapback]
i think youll struggle to find one person who idolised Mcinally a year ago, Just decent human beings give people the benefit of the doubt and let them get on with their job when theyre top of the league from the first day of the season to the last.

All everyone said was give him his chance in the 1st, which we did, and he failed. its over with. Irons is in charge and we're gonna win the 1st division next year!!! tongue.gif.

When over 75% chose the option 'have total confidence in' rather than less gushing approval in the well touted poll, I describe that as idolatry son. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 13:51:53
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 20 2008, 01:28 PM) [snapback]436997[/snapback]
i learn from the best in the talking s***e department, thanks btw smile.gif

so Robinson's s*** clearout going straight to our player, Harding kicking the ball of their player and it going out for a throw in instead of to one of their players putting him through on goal , everytime the ball hits off someone it went to our player is all luck that we made for ourselves yesterday? dont be stupid, old man.

we made some of our luck yesterday, winning every 50/50 ball (apart from finlayson s***ting out an 80/20 ball in his favour laugh.gif), making sure clearouts from the dunfermline defence etc fell to us.

But for once we got the break of the ball, the couple induvidual errors the team had weren't punished, infact due to the fact the ball ended up with us when they were made means they cant even be described as errors.

Jim McIntyre disagrees with you, son!
mortonjag 2008-04-20 13:57:18 I can cycle to Firhill! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 13:59:52
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 20 2008, 12:40 PM) [snapback]436974[/snapback]
no, mortonjag, it's a morgue, not the fish markets.

The fish markets are down Wattle Street from the Sydney Morgue.

Do you need a map ?

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Don't be daft Newt-Holy mackerel were so named because they go off quickly, and a Royal dispensation was issued allowing their sale on a Sunday.

They have a very high fat content relative to other fishy wishies!
mortonjag 2008-04-20 14:00:52
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 20 2008, 12:41 PM) [snapback]436976[/snapback]
Does anyone apart from Wendy stand in their way ?

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Claymore c*ck and God.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 14:03:00
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 20 2008, 01:27 PM) [snapback]436996[/snapback]
Eh...... European diseases killed (millions) more native americans than cowboys ever did. tongue.gif

He just likes being provocative-it's an illness I well understand Mr. Edwards.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 14:06:12
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Apr 20 2008, 02:02 PM) [snapback]437017[/snapback]
Morgue? I do believe you all mean a mortuary.

A morgue or mortuary is a building or room (as in a hospital) used for the storage of human remains.

It is normally described as a mortuary in Scotland.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 14:07:35
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 20 2008, 10:50 AM) [snapback]436906[/snapback]
And you were bound to make a joke like that.

You could change your name to Shackleton!
mortonjag 2008-04-20 14:12:46
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 20 2008, 02:06 PM) [snapback]437021[/snapback]
its pretty obvious that over 1000 of those were to put him on ignore.

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'Fascination' of the fatal kind my child!
mortonjag 2008-04-20 14:16:59
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 20 2008, 02:05 PM) [snapback]437019[/snapback]
that would be true if the many many many cowards on here started every thread linking it to how s*** dougie is, or if not doing that then bringing dougie into and blaming him for something in a thread that has nothing at all to do with him.

But we don't. There are some things people are unhappy about, but not to the extent of talking about it 24/7, we manage to think about other stuff during the day other than " i wonder what Dougie is having for Dinner right now? i bet he f***ing burnt it the old fud "




If you analyse my posts accurately-assuming that is that you are numerate-you will discover that only a very small percentage indeed relates to Mr Rae, though I truly doubt that the old fud has the wit to make his own dinner, let alone burn it! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 14:22:09
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 20 2008, 02:20 PM) [snapback]437026[/snapback]
a small percentage of 30 billion is still a lot of posts. But anyway, you're taking over the thread again, back to Brian Wake.

The thread is about BRIAM WAKE-not that you'd notice that sort of tiny detail.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 14:24:11 Anybody going to watch?
mortonjag 2008-04-20 14:25:48
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 20 2008, 02:23 PM) [snapback]437028[/snapback]
despite a post earlier saying that we should start Briam Wake and Brian Wake up front together but anyway, Dougie has made me lunch and im away to eat it, so this conversation stops now. tongue.gif

I didn't know you were joining us-I'm sure it will be a pleasure to have someone else sit with me in silence.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 14:34:48
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Apr 20 2008, 02:24 PM) [snapback]437031[/snapback]
I ate jellied eels once but I was stoatin' so I can't remember if I enjoyed them or not.... rolleyes.gif

They probably taste great-I can normally eat anything including tripe, brain , heart, and lung, but just can't get my head round jellied eels. Frogs legs are fine.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 14:36:53
QUOTE(piehutt @ Apr 20 2008, 02:24 PM) [snapback]437029[/snapback]
good point, but I think a lot will be diesel, or perhaps use some of both.

Either way, no petrol/diesel will mean our transport system will become fcked!

You can generate electricity from diesel, but it doesn't work the other way around piehole.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 14:39:07
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 20 2008, 04:14 AM) [snapback]436829[/snapback]
A CNN journalist who was arrested in New York was not only carrying drugs, but also had a rope tied around his neck and his genitals.

British reporter Richard Quest was arrested wandering around Central Park at 3.40am on Friday with methamphetamine in his jacket pocket, the New York Post reports.

Quest, 46, was approached by police for loitering, before voluntarily admitting "I've got some meth in my pocket", police claim.

A routine search then found the rope, as well as a sex toy tucked into his boot.

A New York judge ordered Quest to undergo six months of counselling.

A well-known face on CNN International, Quest is renowned for his boisterous and quirky style.

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Bot?


QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Apr 20 2008, 02:31 PM) [snapback]437034[/snapback]
Only a certain type Newt....MPs in the main! laugh.gif


Aye-poor old Spike!
mortonjag 2008-04-20 14:41:45
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 20 2008, 02:34 PM) [snapback]437037[/snapback]
I was reading a report today about a Rowntree Trust survey that concludes 'Society has lost its moral compass'. Apparently the old philanthropist (Rowntree) was confident in the 1900's that the scourges of humanity would be overcome some day. He listed the main scourges as : Poverty, war, slavery, crime, the opium trade, intemperance and gambling. Now, the Trust survey identifies present day scourges as: Decline of community, consumerism, individualism and, as you might have guessed - poverty, violence, crime, drugs, drink etc. I'm surprised they didn't mention the slave trade again - perhaps they haven't heard of gangmasters and the 'traffic' of women and children.
Ach well, I suppose I should cheer up. At least Eck is going to cure all Scotland's ills. tongue.gif

No, no Mr Edwards, that is the job of little Nickerless. Eck will be too busy doing more important things.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 14:45:54
QUOTE(buffy @ Apr 20 2008, 02:34 PM) [snapback]437035[/snapback]
hiya dudes and dudettes

Just wanted to say a big thankyou to the two Morton fans who i was chatting to after the game yesterday - lovely folk smile.gif

I was doing the updates for the Pars Unofficial website - DAFC.net and was 'telling it like it was' and yer two fans who spoke to me were fair chuffed i was an on-the-fence-fan. I always am and was well chuffed you got your three goals yesterday, (should have been nine lol) as well as giving it laldy to our poor team.

Thanks again and good luck for the last game plus next season also. A pleaure to report on such an excellent game yesterday. Plus the sun was shining - brawwww.

Buffy x

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According to some of our best, we were 'lucky' Buffy.

I hope the Pars have a decent season next year-Hamilton in the SPL is a joke! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 18:02:38
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Apr 20 2008, 04:59 PM) [snapback]437118[/snapback]
I disagree. Hamilton will be a team capable of easily staying up in the SPL. Judging by this years standards (St Mirren, Kilmarnock etc etc). Great to see a team make use of its youth system instead of splashing the cash. So on that basis I wish them the best of luck and hopefully they relegate St Mirren.

They have got there on merit, but they don't have the fan base to sustain SPL status-FFS Motherwell play only a mile or so away.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 18:06:22
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 20 2008, 05:10 PM) [snapback]437129[/snapback]
Welcome back missed your footballing wisdom .


We would only have been clear of relegation if we had gotten a capable manager in earlier .

DI is like a conductor of the orchestra his constant prompting kept every player going to the end

Luck !!!! get a grip , it has been sheer hardwork done in training and to their credit the players taking onboard the new regime .

We have had 2 lucky breaks this season JM walking away despite DDFR and his band of believers and Gretna's financial plight which we picked the bones from the corpse .

....despite Rae bleating on about 'not wanting Gretna to disappear'. The man talks a power of sh*te.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 18:10:10 I say F*CK Hamilton-a shower of greetin' faces spoilsports who couldn't take a decent beating, and only won because of their bully boy tactics, plastic playpen, and Cheat Thomson. They will get humped in the SPL regularly to home crowds of a few thousand. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 18:12:38
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Apr 20 2008, 06:07 PM) [snapback]437168[/snapback]
What's that got to do with it? As long as the players perform on the pitch then they will sustain their SPL status... It doesn't matter if there's 50 people watching or 50,000 people watching.

They do not have the fan base to sustain SPL status. If you can't understand that-too f*ckin' bad! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 18:14:21
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Apr 20 2008, 06:01 PM) [snapback]437164[/snapback]
The pitch will NOT be a factor in the game next Saturday.

Why-are we playing it SCUBA style under the Clyde? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 18:19:03 Birch the pink botties.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 18:23:56 A moral victory to the First Division. In some ways I'm almost glad, as it would have been unbearable to hear the press bleatings about this year's Scottish Cup having become a 'Non event'.

Anyhow Queens can still gub them in the final.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 18:27:02
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 20 2008, 06:13 PM) [snapback]437172[/snapback]
but, will yer bike be safe when you get there ?
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'Cycle' was a loose term for 'Moby' Newt. I might even get to drive right into the ground! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 18:28:51
QUOTE(big B @ Apr 20 2008, 06:16 PM) [snapback]437176[/snapback]
Nah the Clyde will be under us tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-04-20 18:32:21
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Apr 20 2008, 06:17 PM) [snapback]437177[/snapback]
What has the fanbase got to do with them sustaining SPL status? Doesnt sustaining SPL status require not being relegated? I think it does. As the chairman of the Accies said their finances are capable of security in the SPL. They are producing their own team so no cash is involved in buying foreign players.

To me that alone is sustaining SPL status.

Their Chairman is stating the financial position at present. Do you imagine their costs will be the same next year, when they will additionally have no income from playpen rental?

Yet again Mortonjag states the obvious and is called in question.

Yet again, Mortonjag will be proved correct! sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 18:36:56 Born just after noon today by Caesarian Section at Glasgow Royal Maternity.

Will probably end up a Hun like its father, but Grand-dad will do his best! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 18:38:52
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 20 2008, 06:35 PM) [snapback]437186[/snapback]
...but of course, only a small percentage of your posts are to do with Rae, and none of them in threads that have nothing to do with him. tongue.gif

I was making a perfectly valid comment in response to Chrissiboi's equally valid comment. Rae is a fud.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 18:40:33
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 20 2008, 06:35 PM) [snapback]437185[/snapback]
Like your Weatherson being a striker argument wink.gif

SPOONSY WAS, IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE A STRIKER
mortonjag 2008-04-20 18:43:06
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Apr 20 2008, 06:37 PM) [snapback]437188[/snapback]
Ach away and rattle yer gums elsewhere. Think about it. SPL = higher admission prices. SPL teams have much more supporters = more money raised through admissions. They are spending very little on their team as I have mentioned they will be using their homegrown talent. I will not be suprised if a few of their youngsters (Mcarthy and Mcarthur) will be snapped up for a reasonable amount.

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They may do reasonably well in the short term and MAY just escape immediate relegation. The indisputable FACT is that Hamilton cannot sustain a viable SPL football club. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 18:46:24
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Apr 20 2008, 06:39 PM) [snapback]437191[/snapback]
Congratulations! I will ask the usual girly things, what weight, have they picked a name and has she got any hair? tongue.gif unsure.gif

Almost four weeks early, and less than five pounds. I'm heading in to see her shortly. To date she is anonymous! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 18:49:11
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Apr 20 2008, 06:46 PM) [snapback]437198[/snapback]
When did you become Mystic Meg? No1 can be certain of any clubs future until it actually happens. Unpredictable things happen all the time. We saw that when clyde nicked 2 goals from us within 2 mins. I bet no1 predicted that at all. They will not be relegated next season. They were already SPL quality as they have been consistent throughout the whole season only losing 3 goals at home. Teams like the skunks, killie, hearts, ICT etc will have a hard time breaking that down as they are, as it is, PISH.

Mystic Meg is a charlatan. I AM MORTONJAG.

I will be proven correct as always! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 18:50:37
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 20 2008, 06:47 PM) [snapback]437199[/snapback]
Make sure you keep Fing away...he may get jealous!

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Fing is very fond of children-though they have to be minced quite small.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 18:53:14
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Apr 20 2008, 06:50 PM) [snapback]437202[/snapback]
You're not STILL going on about that, are you?

OF COURSE I AM.

I'm sending another letter to the SFA tomorrow, as I've not received any reply telling me what the result of the internal investigation was.

Do you have a problem with that?
mortonjag 2008-04-20 18:55:12
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Apr 20 2008, 06:53 PM) [snapback]437210[/snapback]
It is of no relevance to this thread though, so give it a break.

By far the best performance of the season.


WHY?

Because Rae f*cked up! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 18:56:40
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Apr 20 2008, 06:54 PM) [snapback]437214[/snapback]
Nah, you're free do to what you want. Just not sure why you can't let it rest. That one incident alone won't affect how our season ends.

That is very much a matter of opinion. We SHOULD have an extra point right now.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 18:58:15
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Apr 20 2008, 06:51 PM) [snapback]437205[/snapback]
Cant see it happening sorry smile.gif.

No need to apologise for being wrong!
mortonjag 2008-04-20 19:00:27
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 20 2008, 06:58 PM) [snapback]437221[/snapback]
And Accies SHOULD have two less points right now.

..so Craig Pishley B*stard bent lawyer Thomson has cheated them to the Championship! dry.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-20 19:03:32
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Apr 20 2008, 07:00 PM) [snapback]437225[/snapback]
Cue predictable bleating...............

BEATING


Damian's Law NOW!
mortonjag 2008-04-20 19:09:01
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Apr 20 2008, 07:02 PM) [snapback]437229[/snapback]
Maybe Rae f*cked up.
But still - it was NOT the best performance of the season - see post #11. dry.gif

That was your opinion (and mine).

Yesterday's was for me the MOST CONVINCING result of the season and followed fine efforts at Palmerston, McDiarmid Park, and against Thistle. Irons has got belief back into a squad which was squashed by the ineffectual JM and his Shooglemeister.

My greatest fear is that we'll escape relegation (which I'm convinced will happen), and Rae will revert to his old habits.
mortonjag 2008-04-20 19:11:08
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 20 2008, 07:04 PM) [snapback]437232[/snapback]
Mark Farrell , who else at the club puts in a flawless performance week after week.

I don't think I've seen a negative comment about Mark 's efforts .

When you think of all the posponements up and down the country due to the weather . Only one game was in doubt and that was because the ref was an 4rse .

When I looked at the playing surface yesterday it could have easily been mistaken for the start of the season .

I know I can be hard to please and moan alot more than others but I'd also like to think when someone recieves the deserved plaudits I acknowledge it .

Thanks Mark

I couldn't help admiring his style yesterday at half time-mobile to his left ear as he deftly replaced divots-fork in one hand!
mortonjag 2008-04-20 20:16:00
QUOTE(SramTon @ Apr 20 2008, 08:03 PM) [snapback]437271[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-04-21 07:45:10 Many thanks for all the kind wishes and witty comments. I still don't have a name for the wee one.

It's kinda complicated you see-her Mum was a Kafflik who converted to Judaism but no longer goes to the sinny bog, and her Dad thinks he's a Proddy, but has never been in church except when they were married in a Kafflik Church in Barcelona, and worse, he supports the Huns.

I know-it's very sad and very complex. Fortunately their first child is simply Alexander, and he's truly great-a ginger headed wee monster who starts school this summer. Mind you, when he was born the Rangers manager was Alexander McLeish.

I just have this horrible feeling that my wee grand-daughter might be called Wally! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-21 07:47:53
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 20 2008, 07:23 PM) [snapback]437252[/snapback]
No, he's Capitanus or something like that, one of Paul many alter-egos.

You're telling me Caput up anus is an impostor-I knew it! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-21 07:49:49
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 20 2008, 08:27 PM) [snapback]437308[/snapback]
Naw, spammers.

I'd rather be a spammer than a snail.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 07:53:08
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Apr 20 2008, 11:31 PM) [snapback]437491[/snapback]
Been there myself - it's a bit embarassing being helpded into the hospital with your tarzan outfit on!?

It's even worse in a schoolgirl's uniform.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 07:56:52
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Apr 20 2008, 09:11 PM) [snapback]437392[/snapback]
Don't haud yer breath.

Stab someone and the Scottish executive, Scottish government, SNP s***eheids in embra think tou should not go to jail unless there's more than two stitches needed for the wound. sad.gif


.....because Bawheid and Nickerless understand all about medicine and fingz.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 07:58:24
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 21 2008, 06:52 AM) [snapback]437527[/snapback]
These bondage jokes are getting a bit ropey!

Just like stringin' folk along.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 07:59:49
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 21 2008, 06:53 AM) [snapback]437528[/snapback]
would that be dark, milk or white ?

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uhuh
mortonjag 2008-04-21 08:00:38
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 21 2008, 06:53 AM) [snapback]437529[/snapback]
good post!

superb pillar
mortonjag 2008-04-21 08:06:02
QUOTE(leyTON @ Apr 20 2008, 09:59 PM) [snapback]437438[/snapback]
violence is most definetely not the answer which is what ive been saying in the previous death penalty arguments

Don't be a silly wee softy-it will rapidly become the answer the minute one of your loved ones is indiscriminately exterminated for the price of a bag.

Flog the little c*nts within an inch of their lives. Second offenders-MINCER, canned, and distributed to the world's starving.

CORNED THIEF dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-21 08:11:21 I believe Kev is still asking his team mates what happened-but who gives a f***? laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-21 08:12:02
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Apr 20 2008, 11:10 PM) [snapback]437487[/snapback]
Partick are not playing very well. They've only scored 4 goals in their last nine league games, albeit they've only conceded 5. After Saturday thats four on the biounce they've lost and their last victory was 1-0 against Stirling at Firhill. Dunfermline beat them at Firhill! Enough said?

We can win this but even if we don't, we will win the play offs!

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mortonjag 2008-04-21 08:14:20
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 20 2008, 10:49 PM) [snapback]437461[/snapback]
St Mirren. At least one of us will be nice tongue.gif

...because of the black and white stripes


OH and the SMELL!
mortonjag 2008-04-21 08:37:53
QUOTE(18-deano-ehm-74 @ Apr 21 2008, 02:08 AM) [snapback]437522[/snapback]
Their pitch has daiseys on it laugh.gif

better than f*ckin pansies! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-21 08:42:36
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Apr 20 2008, 07:44 PM) [snapback]437262[/snapback]
And a big well done to DDF for giving him the resources? wink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-04-21 08:46:52
QUOTE(midTONs @ Apr 21 2008, 08:09 AM) [snapback]437547[/snapback]
Wrong.

The away stand behind the goal hold 2007. Thistle have said on numerous occasions this season that the Main Stand will not be used, I don't even think it was used against Rangers so I doubt they will open it for us. They have also said in the past that no away fans will be allowed into the JH stand after problems earlier in the season but I think that might change this Saturday.

I reckon we will take over 2500 on Saturday.

Jim I'm praying you're correct, but I can't see it I'm afraid. All the old faithful away supporters will be there, and the fact it's only Glasgow may attract a few hundred more, but it is after all about a game in which even three points guarantee nothing. The main thing is that we can totally outshout the opposition and I'm certain we'll do that easily-AND win!
mortonjag 2008-04-21 08:51:37
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Apr 21 2008, 08:23 AM) [snapback]437554[/snapback]
No they'll just have to make do with the extra £1m or so they get from just being in the SPL. I tend to share your view though, that, in the long term you need a support base to sustain an SPL side no matter how good other aspects of your club are.

Still, I think they have as good a chance as any recently promoted club of getting a couple of season in the SPL if they can hang onto their better players.

...which I suspect is all the other poster really means. I'll be very surprised if they don't struggle next season-they are good-not great, and I also fear that they believe 'those lads deserve the chance to take them forward'! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-21 08:52:57
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Apr 21 2008, 08:48 AM) [snapback]437570[/snapback]
My initial thoughts on our support next week was that we'll take just about our average home support.

Not the quiet crowd! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-21 08:55:36
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 21 2008, 08:24 AM) [snapback]437555[/snapback]
You deserve a cuff round the ear for that.

and your point is-collar?
mortonjag 2008-04-21 09:01:46 Alex Salmond claimed his party can force Westminster "to dance to a Scottish jig" as he set a target of winning 14 more Commons seats and holding the balance of power.

Such a result would give the party 20 seats in the Commons out of the Scottish total of 59. The SNP leader, speaking yesterday on the final day of the party's conference in Edinburgh, believes a close Commons result between Labour and the Conservatives would give smaller parties the power to decide which forms the government, and suggested the SNP could be the power- broker instead of the LibDems.

The party leadership is ruling out formal coalition with either of those UK parties, but Mr Salmond hopes a hung parliament would give him leverage to gain concessions for Scotland. He said this would be one solution to recent "unreasonable behaviour" from the Labour government at Westminster, such as withholding council tax benefit and trying to block local taxation reform.
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"I am charging the party to build a Scottish block of at least 20 MPs in the Westminster Parliament, ready, willing and able to defend our parliament and our people," the First Minister said.

"If we achieve that then all the Westminster noes' will suddenly become yesses'. We can make Westminster dance to a Scottish jig.




Eleven months on cloud nine and still using his mooth for an anus.

Bawheid son-dae ye no ken a' the paranoid ones are already on your side?


Your supposed to be winning over the 'undecideds', like me.


Truly you are an embarrassment to your party. sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-21 09:07:37
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 21 2008, 09:03 AM) [snapback]437579[/snapback]
Flog the little c*nts within an inch of their lives.
Is that not a tad difficult to judge, doctor ?

It probably takes a lot of practice.

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Ok Newt I was a bit enthusiastic-just flog them till they're hauf deid.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 09:09:47
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 21 2008, 09:06 AM) [snapback]437581[/snapback]
"I am charging the party to build a Scottish block of at least 20 MPs in the Westminster Parliament, ready, willing and able to defend our parliament and our people."

will they have heavy weapons or just side arms ?

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Not heavy weapons I'd guess-they're all bloody 'wummin' including Jessie in Chief!
mortonjag 2008-04-21 09:10:43
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 21 2008, 09:07 AM) [snapback]437582[/snapback]
champion stake

Chompy on sausage.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 09:11:27
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 21 2008, 09:00 AM) [snapback]437577[/snapback]
are you speaking from personal experience ?

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Yes!
mortonjag 2008-04-21 09:14:26
QUOTE(midTONs @ Apr 21 2008, 08:32 AM) [snapback]437558[/snapback]
Prior to the Partick Thistle v Morton match

there will be FREE Bacon, Egg or Slice Rolls available to all travelers with the Gourock Morton Supporters' this weekend between 11am and 12pm.
There will also be the usual FREE pies and soup available from 12.30pm until the bus leaves at 1.30pm.


And when their goalie's in front of us we shall anaesthetise him with orchestrated farting.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 09:15:58
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 21 2008, 09:13 AM) [snapback]437588[/snapback]
which hauf ?

Either left or right-not fussy.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 09:16:43
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 21 2008, 09:15 AM) [snapback]437590[/snapback]
ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

French maid as well ducky ?

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Swedish au pair actually.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 09:21:51
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 20 2008, 11:53 PM) [snapback]437496[/snapback]
No, I was thinking more of his role in 'Falling Down', and in particular the scene where he shoots up the burger joint. But I think you knew that anyway.

The rectum is an organ-not a joint.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 09:45:27
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 21 2008, 09:25 AM) [snapback]437594[/snapback]
Another day another attack on the SNP.

Both the SNP and Salmond are riding high in the opinion polls.

A predicted 20+ seats for the Westminster elections laugh.gif

Labour in crisis through out the UK. Brown the lowest poll ratings since Chamberlain (I think Hitler is more popular come to think of it tongue.gif )
Wendy is still making a fool of herself and her party.
The Lib-Dems seem to be in the doldrums since Clegg took over and haven't progressed.
And theTories non existent in Scotland.

Sounds like Salmond is an embarrassment doesn't it ??? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Labour fooled the Scottish public for long and weary-now that baw faced galoot is doing the same, but the chickens will come home to roost.

To somebody like myself who supports the concept of self government, he is indeed a huge embarrassment Spurtle.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 09:47:01
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Apr 21 2008, 09:37 AM) [snapback]437597[/snapback]
so are you

The word you were looking for was oracle.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 09:48:02
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Apr 21 2008, 09:36 AM) [snapback]437595[/snapback]
Yes but if they got it these computer things would be ever so expensive.

...for proper people.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 10:18:41
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 21 2008, 10:08 AM) [snapback]437607[/snapback]
Everyone is entitled to their opinion MJ. I'm just glad you're views on the SNP and Mr Salmond are not echoed by the electorate.

He is head and shoulders above anyone in politics right now. After the next Westminster elections the political map of the UK will change dramatically.

The SNP are riding high just now, let's hope they continue to do so. There is real optimism in the air for nationalists.

The end is nigh for the UK. The sooner the break up the better !



That's exactly the type of comment that I abhor-just like his 'jiggin' one-pathetic, paranoid, and premature.

QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 21 2008, 10:08 AM) [snapback]437609[/snapback]
I dunno Jag, I reckon wee eck is onto something here. It is clear that there is a big support for the SNP in Scotland now and their time in power so far has been used to show up how controlling Westminster appears to be over certain issues.

Can argue til the coos come hame over it but at the end of the day the SNP and seizing on their current popularity so as to get more SNP into Westminster.

And I wont be dancing any jigs...however if someone wants a piper to play said jigs I am willing to listen to offers wink.gif

All that's happened young Puggs is that the mindless thickos who used to vote Labour are now voting SNP. Instead of trying to win over thinking Scots Bawheid's needle's got stuck in the groove. It's a promise everything government full of inexperienced clowns like Nickerless. The chickens will come home to roost!
mortonjag 2008-04-21 10:20:50
QUOTE(Kenni @ Apr 21 2008, 10:08 AM) [snapback]437608[/snapback]
135 mins of football = 5 goals

strikers = Brian Wake and Ian Russell
thank you rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif

Spoonsy and Graham! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-21 10:22:38
QUOTE(jimmy boag delivers @ Apr 21 2008, 10:08 AM) [snapback]437610[/snapback]
A good performance from Wake and hopefully that gives him the confidence to score a few next week. He never hid and was still running his socks off until the final whistle. Credit to Russell as well for equal effort - if only he could stay onside...

Re Wake's shot that hit the bar - I thought it might have been over the line when it came down off the bar. Hopefully get some still shots from the official site video. I suppose from the lack of comment on here no else thought it might have gone over!

It was an extremely powerful shot, and could well have gone just over.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 10:24:09 sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-21 10:25:10
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Apr 21 2008, 10:20 AM) [snapback]437614[/snapback]
Orafice

Orator
mortonjag 2008-04-21 10:53:59
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 21 2008, 10:26 AM) [snapback]437620[/snapback]
They may be inexperienced but are still better than the headless labourite chickens conducted by the head hen Wendy! tongue.gif

Of course they are, so why spoil it all by lowering themselves?

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 21 2008, 10:30 AM) [snapback]437622[/snapback]
Perhaps someone like you would abhor comments like that, as you seem to be more unionist than nationalist in outlook. rolleyes.gif



I'm not a 'Unionist', Thistle Thumbs.

Folk who see that not all is healthy with Eck's cosy wee band of nappy rashers do not automatically become unionists-except in your eyes! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-21 11:06:14
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 21 2008, 10:55 AM) [snapback]437624[/snapback]
I heard he had it to smash round your head wink.gif

It's FAR too wee!
mortonjag 2008-04-21 11:17:05
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 21 2008, 11:13 AM) [snapback]437631[/snapback]
orange

b*stard
mortonjag 2008-04-21 11:36:00
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 21 2008, 11:31 AM) [snapback]437633[/snapback]
Nothing like that in the movie I saw, you must have seen the porno version.

Nope just Gray's Anatomy.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 15:01:16
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 21 2008, 12:04 PM) [snapback]437638[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif Must be talking about someone else mate laugh.gif

I was merely associating the two words Mr Weegie!
mortonjag 2008-04-21 15:07:32
QUOTE(big B @ Apr 21 2008, 01:10 PM) [snapback]437659[/snapback]
Not that I am saying we will take as big a cowd but this is a bigger game than the Motherwell game so hopefully we take at least 2500 or above for another big game in Morton's history.

You know that and I know that, but the glory seekers don't have any interest in relegation dog fights BB.

I'll be astonished and delighted if we take 1500.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 15:10:39
QUOTE(18-deano-ehm-74 @ Apr 21 2008, 12:47 PM) [snapback]437648[/snapback]
They have always done that. They did it when we played them a month or so ago.

Cos they're jumped up brat spoilsport cheats who are coming straight back down and F*CK THEM.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 15:15:04 It's not going to happen-Clyde will falter against the Binos-they may scrape a win by the odd goal, but I fully expect us to win three or four nil. sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-21 15:23:54 McGregor began his career with Kilmarnock, but failed to make the grade with them.

McGregor signed for Clyde in the summer 2005, and scored on his debut in the Scottish Challenge Cup against Brechin City. McGregor has gone from strength to strength since joining Clyde, and was awarded the Man of the Match award during Clyde's 5-2 extra time defeat to Rangers in the Scottish League Cup. He missed virtually the whole of the first half of 2006 with a series of injuries, including strained ankle ligaments and a fractured cheekbone.

McGregor was appointed Clyde captain in January 2007, due to the departure of Paul McHale. However, due to injury, McGregor was sidelined for the rest of the season, allowing Michael McGowan to captain the side. McGowan was officially appointed as team captain in August 2007, whereas McGregor was given the role of club captain.[1]

McGregor was selected in the SPFA First Division Team of 2006-07. In August 2007, Carlisle United were reported to have table an offer of £100,000 for McGregor. However, this offer fell through when Carlisle sacked their manager.[2]

His younger brother Calum also plays for Clyde.[3]
mortonjag 2008-04-21 15:26:15
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 21 2008, 03:24 PM) [snapback]437699[/snapback]
f*** me, i remember like a week ago when you were on 13,000 posts mellow.gif

unsure.gif

How many am I on now?
mortonjag 2008-04-21 15:35:29
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 21 2008, 03:29 PM) [snapback]437701[/snapback]
Yup
Now the big question...do I shave the beard off and gel my hair forward over my awful hairline and chance it?
....nah! laugh.gif

Just learn to pay your way like the adults do.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 15:38:50
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 21 2008, 01:57 PM) [snapback]437672[/snapback]
I know, I kept doing the same. Annoying isn't it?

I kept looking over at that white circle-I had forgotten my watch and my brother was getting pissed off when I kept saying 'How long's gone now'.

It must have been an absolute nightmare for lonely souls of a nervous disposition who can't afford a timepiece. Rae has much to answer for. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-21 15:40:41
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 21 2008, 03:39 PM) [snapback]437705[/snapback]
Not until I have to wink.gif

In your profile you claim to be 21 years old. I take it you've been fibbing again.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 15:43:00
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 21 2008, 03:39 PM) [snapback]437706[/snapback]
I'm guessing so...can only be a good thing.

Maybe Albertz's plane will be cancelled because of the fuel strike! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-21 15:44:18
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 21 2008, 03:42 PM) [snapback]437708[/snapback]
18,077 laugh.gif

No wonder that monkey keeps complaining about sore fingers.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 15:48:49
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 21 2008, 03:44 PM) [snapback]437711[/snapback]
Oh aye, Crawford is the stadium guy anyway...so blame him wink.gif

Well he's just a chip off the old block I'd imagine-if he can't afford new turnstyles, what hope have we of getting an old clock fixed. Next thing the toilets will be flooded out with raw sewage, Cappie will die of typhoid, and Arthur will fracture a hip or two. The Raes have much to answer for.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 15:50:15
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 21 2008, 03:43 PM) [snapback]437710[/snapback]
Erm.....no?

In yours you claim to be a wee boy tongue.gif

No I don't-well not unless that monkey's been messing about again.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 15:53:02
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 21 2008, 03:45 PM) [snapback]437713[/snapback]
If your not part of the solution your part of the problem rolleyes.gif

Such a ludicrous assertion could only come from you Spurtle, and BTW it should be you're-I don't want Newt to get upset again.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 15:54:37
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 21 2008, 03:51 PM) [snapback]437716[/snapback]
we can only hope smile.gif

What has that poor poosy done to offend you?
mortonjag 2008-04-21 15:55:35 Don't be silly-the monkey knows better than to cheat on Mortonjag and Fing.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 15:57:05
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 21 2008, 03:52 PM) [snapback]437717[/snapback]
Aye a week is a long time in football laugh.gif

...when the clock's f*cked.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 15:58:41
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Apr 21 2008, 03:56 PM) [snapback]437725[/snapback]
I definately had an effect on saturday's game tongue.gif , they can keep the clock

True, but I still want to know why he had to pawn it.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 16:04:04
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 21 2008, 04:01 PM) [snapback]437731[/snapback]
...he knows what he did!

I don't-in fact I don't believe Cappie would harm a fly.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 16:20:02
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 04:17 PM) [snapback]437736[/snapback]
Quality, I'm there.

Master Deegan-did your new avatar borrow the wallies from Shoogly just for the fotie shoot?
mortonjag 2008-04-21 16:21:40
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 21 2008, 04:18 PM) [snapback]437737[/snapback]
sothere is no truth in the rumour that there was repeated sightings of an MJ shaped person up a ladder on friday night stealing the clock just so he could start this thread?

Don't be ridiculous-Mortonjag plays bridge on Friday nights.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 16:23:53
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 21 2008, 04:22 PM) [snapback]437742[/snapback]
wish he would play on bridges on a friday night, preferably ones with rush hour traffic. tongue.gif

laugh.gif

Mortonjag is immortal.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 16:25:09
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 04:22 PM) [snapback]437741[/snapback]
laugh.gif

FFS get those wallies oot-they make him look glaicet!
mortonjag 2008-04-21 16:27:18
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 21 2008, 04:21 PM) [snapback]437739[/snapback]
MJ you arent the top poster today mellow.gif

Deego is beating you ohmy.gif you're losing your touch, and you know how much i enjoyed your touch.

I didn't realise it was a competition PT-what's the prize?
mortonjag 2008-04-21 16:31:29
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Apr 21 2008, 04:28 PM) [snapback]437748[/snapback]
Far too clever a game for you!

You misunderstand numbers man-I'm not talking about cards-the boys and I just call it 'bridge', though I imagine 'tunnel' would be more accurate.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 16:33:15
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 04:30 PM) [snapback]437750[/snapback]
I'd rather be a snail than a spammer.

Shoot yershell
mortonjag 2008-04-21 16:35:36
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 04:34 PM) [snapback]437754[/snapback]
Fannyball.

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mortonjag 2008-04-21 16:37:44
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 04:35 PM) [snapback]437756[/snapback]
The loser gets flashed by WillowMan.

I'll stop trying then!
mortonjag 2008-04-21 16:38:59
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 04:37 PM) [snapback]437760[/snapback]
Who are you talking about?

Spiced Ham.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 17:44:11
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 21 2008, 04:58 PM) [snapback]437785[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif

Don't be silly-I've seen worse than a flash of Willow.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 17:45:46
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 21 2008, 05:24 PM) [snapback]437798[/snapback]
NICKEL.

prickle
mortonjag 2008-04-21 17:47:23
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 21 2008, 04:51 PM) [snapback]437779[/snapback]
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mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-21 17:50:14
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 21 2008, 04:45 PM) [snapback]437773[/snapback]
i know, i just wanted to annoy MJ.

but to be fair, Dougie obviously doesn't have a clue how to run a youth system, and neither did JM (strange considering he managed celtic youths).

He's obviously listened to Irons and Collins on this and since people have said all they want is people to help him with the footballing side of things, he deserves credit for letting them do what they want.

Shoogly is a very good listener who never hears a bloody word. He has no interest whatsoever in a youth set up, but not to worry-his heart's in the right place! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-21 17:52:23
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 21 2008, 04:49 PM) [snapback]437777[/snapback]
got a little freaked out with what you meant there. was scared what he was doing with his other hand while on this board , thought only MJ did that.

You are quite disgusting.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 17:57:07
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Apr 21 2008, 03:57 PM) [snapback]437728[/snapback]
Is it naw true that a new digital one is going to be installed for next session but like your dvd player no one will no how to set it and it will just flash at midnight for the rest of time

It's naw true Pedro. Shoogly can only do the big hand, wee hand stuff-his only experience of the digital age was his recent rectal examination.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 17:58:34
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 05:55 PM) [snapback]437816[/snapback]
MORRISSEY.

DANCERY
mortonjag 2008-04-21 17:59:18
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Apr 21 2008, 05:31 PM) [snapback]437801[/snapback]
Aye, was guid Ghosty!

Hopefully the same result on Saturday!!

biggrin.gif

And the same for us (5-1, roon ye McLeish!) against Everton, which would move us into the UEFA spot and confirm your Champions League spot!

Did you speak with wallyman?
mortonjag 2008-04-21 17:59:57
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 05:59 PM) [snapback]437823[/snapback]
Boz.

Cox
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:01:39
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 05:57 PM) [snapback]437819[/snapback]
Deary me, mortonjag.

I wish you'd remove that grinning clown from your avatar and replace it with a proper monkey.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:02:55
QUOTE(18-deano-ehm-74 @ Apr 21 2008, 06:00 PM) [snapback]437828[/snapback]
Most scoreboards do that I think. The one at Hampden does anyway.

We could only get a shiny new one if Peter leaves, seeing as his free kicks hit that rather than the net.

Shiny new ones cost MUNNY. The old one will be back oot the pawn for August.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:04:08
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 06:02 PM) [snapback]437833[/snapback]
How DARE you insult my Kevin! mad.gif

He's not YOUR Kevin, and he's stolen Shoogly's wallies.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:05:19
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Apr 21 2008, 06:01 PM) [snapback]437831[/snapback]
Should we try and sign him???

Or will an SPL club try and get him???

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/t...een/7358687.stm

Why not-it's good fun while it lasts!
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:06:18
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 21 2008, 05:59 PM) [snapback]437821[/snapback]
welcome to the 21st century old timer.

Thank you-but you are still quite disgusting.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:07:06
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 21 2008, 06:00 PM) [snapback]437825[/snapback]
you know criticism of someone isn't valid unless you acknowledge when they do something well.

Bollocks.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:08:22
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 06:06 PM) [snapback]437838[/snapback]
He's MY hero therefore he is MY Kevin.

SUPER KEV

THAT'S MY COLOUR
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:09:02
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 06:07 PM) [snapback]437844[/snapback]
"It is not yet clear whether the 34-year-old will retire and move in to coaching."

Player-coach?

Team bus
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:09:57
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 06:09 PM) [snapback]437847[/snapback]
I thought you were into the disgusting type?

I am-quite disgusting types are failures.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:10:46
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 06:09 PM) [snapback]437849[/snapback]
Oh, wrong thread.

Pan bread
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:11:58
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 06:01 PM) [snapback]437829[/snapback]
Moz.

Mins
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:12:51 Handel-The Messiah
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:16:56
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Apr 21 2008, 06:12 PM) [snapback]437855[/snapback]



Crawford Allan

Date of Birth: 16 May 1967

Height: 1.68m / 5ft 6in

Weight: 9st 12 lb/ 62kg

Profession: Bank Official

First ever match: Musselburgh U/14 v Edina Hibs U/14 in August 1991

First international match: England v Israel (U/17 Ballymena International tournament 2002)

Career highlights Referee Scottish U/21 Cup Final 1995, Referee Scottish Junior Cup Final 2001, being promoted to Grade 1 in Season 2002/ first foreign UEFA match as 4th official in 2004 (Portugal v. Russia u-21 qualifying match) Ukraine v. albania (2005 4th Official U/21 qualifying match)

What does being a football referee mean to you? Being professional in my attitude and enjoying taking part in a game I really enjoy.

Why did you become a referee? I was slightly mad! - and one of my work colleagues (who is now a Referee Observer ) was a referee and talked me into it!!

Would you have wished to become a full-time referee? Yes - I have been lucky enough to go abroad on a couple of occasions for tournaments / matches and "live the life of a referee" for a few days and it was absolutely superb.

Any pet hates in football? Players trying to deceive the referee and opponents (cheating, if I am being absolutely honest) - some are really good at it and make it so difficult to spot, with the result that on occasion we sometimes get it wrong and don't award fouls when maybe they should have been.

What Law of the Game would you change? Number of substitutes in a friendly match. I really can't see the point in making people pay good money to watch what can become little more than a training event for the players when so many players change during the game. If clubs want a training match then arrange it as such and run it on the training fields.

The most difficult Law to apply? Dissent. Should be so easy if the letter of the Law was applied - however referees try to take common sense into account and allow a certain amount of frustration amongst players - but where is the line and when do players cross it? Very difficult to manage 100% properly.

Your best memory in football? Going to watch Scotland in 1998 World Cup in France - fantastic experience. One I hope to repeat at some point in the future.

Other sports or hobbies? Running (3 marathons so far inc. Londond 2006 / 3 half marathons and quite a few 10 k's)
Golf (poor 14 handicap although some of the other referees definitely question that when I take the money!)
The occasional game of badminton

Your main strength? My commitment to learning and developing

And main weaknesses? Malt whisky

What's in your car CD player? Red Hot Chilli Peppers/Stadium Arcadium, Shania Twain / Greatest Hits - what a babe! Snow Patrol / Eyes Open

Beer or wine? Both in moderation - just not at the same time ...... learning from experience !

Favourite film? Cat Ballou - really fuuny and very enjoyable / easy watching.

Tastiest food? Peppered steak

Favourite holiday destination? Lake Garda

Luck or judgement? Luck

Dress up or dress down? Both, I am equally comfortable in a pair of jeans as I am in a dinner suit / kilt for the special occasion.

Whom would you most like to meet? Who ever put these questions together!!

Ambitions? To continue to enjoy life, be the best I can and reach as high a level as I can in everything I do.

Any advice for young referees? The world is out there if you have the commitment, skill and a little bit of luck. Enjoy it!!
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:17:55
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 06:11 PM) [snapback]437853[/snapback]
Elderly Ned.

Drop dead
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:18:57
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 06:13 PM) [snapback]437857[/snapback]
SUITS ME BETTER

PUFE
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:19:37
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 06:18 PM) [snapback]437866[/snapback]
NAW!

AW!
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:20:59
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 06:19 PM) [snapback]437868[/snapback]
wub.gif

Will you please remove those wallies from your avatar and return them to Shoogly-he's f*ckin' starvin' to death.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:23:01
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Apr 21 2008, 06:14 PM) [snapback]437859[/snapback]
I think the Hamilton Accies chairman's comment about sustaining a strong, financially stable club based on their youth products in the future should have served as a wake-up call to Morton. I have no doubt Irons and Collins would have been keen on this before anyway, but maybe Mr Rae seeing one of his peers talking about his success has given him a bit more urgency! Our youth set-up has been so stop-start over the last few years, McGregor is still the only recent YTS product playing is he not? He broke through nearing ten years ago during a different time for the club. Did Jim McAllister sign youth forms at first? Alan Trouten was a good prospect and he's doing well at Queens Park now, maybe we could get him back?

Hamilton's success is built on bringing youth players in to compliment the older guys and surely nobody can deny it worked? People might want to talk about their home form and the synthetic turf, but their away home has been magnificent as well. They were promoted to Division One three years before us and over those three seasons they have progressed each year, as have a number of their young players. McCarthy is something else. I just hope that come season 2011/2012, we'll have managed to equal their success, or even get there a year sooner. With three or four home grown players in the team by then! McAllister could well be gone at that point.

Rae is quite simply not interested in an active youth policy, but apparently his heart's in the right place.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:23:59
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 06:21 PM) [snapback]437873[/snapback]
Kev refuses to do so.

You are happy to see our Chairman die of starvation.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:24:49
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 06:20 PM) [snapback]437870[/snapback]
JACKIE MCNAMARA.

Discuss.

Ex Cellic player
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:28:24 What a load of codswallop-the Mighty Ton can play football on any surface-this ain't JM's ballet dancers any more-Thistle are well f*cked!
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:29:45
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 06:26 PM) [snapback]437886[/snapback]
Give him something that doesn't need to be chewed.

laugh.gif

There is no end to your rudeness young man.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:31:39 Greig-Peer Gynt
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:37:55
QUOTE(leyTON @ Apr 21 2008, 06:27 PM) [snapback]437887[/snapback]
but what is the message
do you believe this shows violence is not the answer
you are saying to people violence isnt the solution to whatever problems the assaulter here had(financial, drugs etc) but while you yourselve advocate the use of violence to solve a problem.
demonsiing youths again also, when discussing damians law it was mostly young people in your sights, not that knife crime isnt a problem among the youth, but with adults aswell
if a 60 odd year old had assualted someone would u advocate the birch?

The message is-

Here is a short video showing what will happen to you if you carry a knife-the choice is entirely


YOURS



It's a wee bit like warning folk not to stick their hands in fires or walk over cliffs-quite simple, and perfectly civilised. Do you think folk would still take a chance on it-remember it's THEIR choice. Would they be vicious enough to force society to meet violence with violence?
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:41:25
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 06:17 PM) [snapback]437862[/snapback]
NORMAN.

HORMONE
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:44:20
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 06:43 PM) [snapback]437912[/snapback]
Uniformed whores.

May Hughes Dancers
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:46:41
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 06:32 PM) [snapback]437898[/snapback]
I'm only trying to impress you. wub.gif

You will impress me when you remove Shoogly's dentures from your avatar-I'm fed up with this 'are yoosh up for it shtuff.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:48:24
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 06:47 PM) [snapback]437918[/snapback]
SUPER KEV shall never be replaced.

SHOOPER KEV HASH SHTOLEN SHOOGLY'S WALLYSH
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:50:05 I really liked the going away tribute to Shoogly on Saturday.

A PENIS.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:51:03
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 06:50 PM) [snapback]437923[/snapback]
He's a good lad!

He's a blinkered greyhound who should not be wearing dentures.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:53:09
QUOTE(18-deano-ehm-74 @ Apr 21 2008, 06:39 PM) [snapback]437905[/snapback]
Hamilton already have one of the best youth set-ups in Scotland and have had for a while. And I think McAlister could be out of here this summer if we get relegated.

mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:54:52
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 06:52 PM) [snapback]437929[/snapback]
Super Kev is the God of all Gods.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


Mortonjag is his mentor.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:56:58
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 06:55 PM) [snapback]437936[/snapback]
Following Kev's orders.

Kev has a habit of doing forty five things wrong before he finds the right button!
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:58:04
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Apr 21 2008, 06:56 PM) [snapback]437941[/snapback]
I have it on good authority that Dougie was seen coming out of Victoria Wine with a bottle of Malt Whiskey this afternoon...I'll do my bit and see if I get tickets to the next Chilli Peppers' gig.

Try posting some news.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:58:55
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 06:56 PM) [snapback]437940[/snapback]
He said "give me the ball"

I said 'Not at all'
mortonjag 2008-04-21 18:59:38 Why change a winning formation?
mortonjag 2008-04-21 19:01:24
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 06:55 PM) [snapback]437938[/snapback]
No, Brian Wake is.

Super Khali
Realistic
Not a peterstocious
mortonjag 2008-04-21 19:03:42
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 06:45 PM) [snapback]437916[/snapback]
Behave.

Beehive
mortonjag 2008-04-21 19:06:31
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Apr 21 2008, 07:02 PM) [snapback]437951[/snapback]
Because McGuffie's still invisible?

Poor McGuffie-he's actually been doing a power of work along with Pantaloons in taking the pressure of our back two, and he's going to score this Saturday!
mortonjag 2008-04-21 19:08:34
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 07:06 PM) [snapback]437957[/snapback]
He said to me, "Listen to Kev and you will go far, son."

Khali does not call the denture thief Kev-he describes him as WALLIES.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 19:12:27
QUOTE(leyTON @ Apr 21 2008, 07:11 PM) [snapback]437968[/snapback]
the plan indeed but i know for a fact that the current u17s have been told about the new 19s team as very much a maybe scenario

That well describes our current position.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 19:14:02
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 07:12 PM) [snapback]437975[/snapback]
Of course.

Good gracious it now looks so naked except for Shooglies wallies.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 19:15:05
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 07:13 PM) [snapback]437976[/snapback]
Kev would go out tonight...

if he could borrow a coat to wear.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 19:16:32
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Apr 21 2008, 07:14 PM) [snapback]437980[/snapback]
That's a matter of opinion and I disagree.
The teams couldn't be separated over the season so an additional game (or two) would be better IMO.

I disagree with both of you. It should be given to Morton because they are our team.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 19:17:55
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 07:16 PM) [snapback]437986[/snapback]
This man said "it's gruesome that Kevin should care"

as he pulled out his teeth with a long haunting stare
mortonjag 2008-04-21 19:19:09
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 07:17 PM) [snapback]437987[/snapback]
Woaw.

May I suggest as you new sig.

Do you like my smile?
mortonjag 2008-04-21 19:21:35
QUOTE(Cawston @ Apr 21 2008, 07:12 PM) [snapback]437972[/snapback]
After her Grandpa? tongue.gif

BLOODY HELL-I am psychic-she's HOLLY!


Not a name I'd have chosen but pretty inoffensive I guess! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-21 19:22:48
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 07:18 PM) [snapback]437990[/snapback]
Simon's jed.

Kev is dead
mortonjag 2008-04-21 19:24:32
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 07:20 PM) [snapback]437994[/snapback]
Naw.

OK-how about

Mr Rae just told me I can keep them.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 19:25:40
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 21 2008, 07:23 PM) [snapback]438000[/snapback]
I hope you are wrong LT , simply because without an under 19s there is no point in having the other 3 teams .

Guys like Craig Black and others deserved to be playing against their own age group especially after winning their league at 17's .

I would be extremely disappointed in Irons and Collins if what they said would happen did not take place .

By his past decisions DDFR hasn't got a clue about the need , importance or even the economical benefits a strong youth set up can bring if you put enough effort in .

TRUE
mortonjag 2008-04-21 19:27:37 [quote name='Deego' date='Apr 21 2008, 07:25 PM' post='438005']
Naw.
GNAW
mortonjag 2008-04-21 19:30:08
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 21 2008, 07:19 PM) [snapback]437992[/snapback]
You're not very good at this mortonjag!

I'm not very good at most things but at least I try.

Maybe tomorrow I'll manage to fly
mortonjag 2008-04-21 19:31:33 What I said!
mortonjag 2008-04-21 19:33:00 Scruffytoothpick-Holy Molar
mortonjag 2008-04-21 20:13:33
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 21 2008, 07:44 PM) [snapback]438018[/snapback]
believe it or not you dont get to choose the name. tongue.gif

Never said I did and if I had I'd have called her Keveen.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 20:15:21
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 21 2008, 08:00 PM) [snapback]438024[/snapback]
to be fair, if anyone ruined this thread it was me and deego and not MJ. Although seeing as the thread was just about dead, thanks to kevs jed and brown bread we didn't really ruin much.

old dutch
mortonjag 2008-04-21 20:16:09 Elkie Brookes -- lilac wine
mortonjag 2008-04-21 20:18:14
QUOTE(SramTon @ Apr 21 2008, 07:58 PM) [snapback]438023[/snapback]
I'd rather we signed him when his dad was still asst manager (still we got Mark McGraw and Peter Cormack Jnr so can't complain blink.gif )

McNamara's had too many injury problems off late and I think he's just about done. Too much of a gamble for us given the amount he'd tie-up in wages.

McNamara's banned!
mortonjag 2008-04-21 20:20:16
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 21 2008, 07:48 PM) [snapback]438020[/snapback]
as i live in the port, i beg to differ.

That's perfectly understandable.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 20:25:16
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 21 2008, 07:25 PM) [snapback]438003[/snapback]

Aye very good Spurtle-don't you think you're floggin' a dead horse-if your bum chum Bawheid had any decent opposition at all he'd not look so f*cking smug-and by the way, Bendy is indeed some coo, but gerry shagger takes the biscuit in the ugly stakes by a country mile! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-21 20:28:42
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Apr 21 2008, 08:22 PM) [snapback]438035[/snapback]
I have mentioned this on a thread a while back about Queens Park and an interview in fourfourtwo a while back. Queens had commented that financial problems had cost them their reputation in the community and had to put plans in place to win back their fan base, they reaslise that they will also come second to the OF so they want to attract as many as possible.

Anyway they began offering free coaching classes to Primary and Secondary school teachers and volunteers so they could pass on advice etc to children in the area. They also tried some other initiatives to entice children to attend their games and children to play for their football teams.

As I mentioned I believe for any senior team to have teams in a community requires cooperation from the wider community and of course the football club.

Finally on Hamilton I was talking with a guy and his next door neighbours son plays for Hamilton. Apparently this boy is seen as the next big thing and now Hamilton have won the league he will get a run out on Saturday the boy is either 15 or 16- even James McCarthy said in the current fourfourtwo about moving to the EPL that he has a better chance of playing football for Hamilton than sitting in the reserve team at another club.

Tell Mr Rae.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 20:29:46
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 21 2008, 08:23 PM) [snapback]438036[/snapback]
The whole play offs involving 9th is a nonsense . So is the suggestion of playing a play off to play in the play offs that the final might need not be played because Gretna may not be allowed to play because of their stadium , thats if they survive administration .
These guys should write some of the comedies for the TV

They probably do Chris!
mortonjag 2008-04-21 20:31:43
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Apr 21 2008, 08:26 PM) [snapback]438039[/snapback]
laugh.gif

Don't-you'll upset the gentle folk.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 20:33:36
QUOTE(stubaws @ Apr 21 2008, 08:30 PM) [snapback]438045[/snapback]
to change the team would be ridiculous if everyone is fully fit! stuff still aint quite coming off for mcguffie but then again jenkins aint exactly set the heather on fire YET and wont be match fit so best stick with the same 11 who did so well on saturday. would imagine that the only change would be macgregor on the bench instead of keenan if he's available, same tactics as saturday as we have to win, no point sitting tight for 70 minutes hoping for stirling to do us a favour only for clyde to score and leave us hitting the panic button with 20 minutes to go!

McGregor was DROPPED
mortonjag 2008-04-21 20:36:34
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 21 2008, 08:22 PM) [snapback]438034[/snapback]
about time you were leavin'

I intend to keep breevin'
mortonjag 2008-04-21 20:37:20 Stones-brown sugar
mortonjag 2008-04-21 20:38:44
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Apr 21 2008, 08:36 PM) [snapback]438051[/snapback]
He fancies Shania Twain......we're doomed!!!!! ohmy.gif

Canadian clubbed.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 20:40:21
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Apr 21 2008, 08:27 PM) [snapback]438040[/snapback]
You really would feel bad if you were a Brummy as three (I think, may have been two) of our goals shouldn't have counted for offside, but Ashley was running them ragged, Gabby could have brought out a sun-lounger and left him and Carew to it, it was that easy!

Liked when Mark Clattenberg just pushed the big defender Jaidi out the way and we got a goal from the counter attack! laugh.gif

Speaking of Petrov, how good is he now he's being played in the holding role of a diamond!??!?!

Bring on the Toffees on Sunday, almost a play-off in itself for the UEFA cup spot!

Did you chat with Shoogly on Saturday?
mortonjag 2008-04-21 21:15:59
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 21 2008, 09:03 PM) [snapback]438068[/snapback]
your patter is heevin'

is deego oot theivin?
mortonjag 2008-04-21 21:18:55
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Apr 21 2008, 08:42 PM) [snapback]438057[/snapback]
Why does he post on threads that have fuck all to do with him? huh.gif

I ain't going to read it you boring old post whore, so go away.

EDIT: I'm not being fucking sensored on my own thread! mad.gif

I asked a legitimate question on a thread about hospitality, and all I get is abuse. That's a poor show-even from you.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 21:21:15
QUOTE(leyTON @ Apr 21 2008, 09:04 PM) [snapback]438070[/snapback]
thought id reseruct this
there seems to be 2 ways of dealing with this one so ill do both
a conventional fact: i have 22 scars
and some crazy way you know someone on the board:LAS once witnessed me break a mans nose:P

I had both legs broken at the one time.
mortonjag 2008-04-21 21:23:08
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Apr 21 2008, 08:41 PM) [snapback]438056[/snapback]
Practise what you preach. rolleyes.gif

I beg your pardon! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-22 06:31:29 The SNP faced claims last night that its energy policy is "in meltdown" after it rejected plans for Europe's largest wind farm to be built on Lewis.

Ministers said they could not approve the proposal because of the impact on the Lewis Peatlands Special Protection Area, protected by European law. Energy Minister Jim Mather stressed it did not mean other wind farms could not proceed in the islands.

Opposition politicians accused the Scottish Government of having an energy policy which was "random in manner". "The SNP's energy policy is in meltdown," said sustainable development spokesman for Labour, Iain Gray. "They are opposed to nuclear power and incapable of agreeing strategic renewable projects to replace it."

LibDem energy spokesman, Liam McArthur, added: "Ministers cannot reject some energy forms and support others in such a random and populist manner."
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The announcement delighted opponents and environmental groups. But it dismayed Western Isles Council, which saw it as key to future economic prosperity, creating 400 jobs and bringing investment.

The developer, Lewis Wind Power, said it was "bitterly disappointed" by the decision.

Bill McAllister, of the Highland Renewable Energy Group, said: "The decision is a social and economic disaster for the Western Isles, but it raises major questions about the Scottish Government's alleged commitment to renewable energy.

"The Scottish administration cannot decide to reject nuclear and opt for renewable energy instead and then reject the large-scale scheme without which the administration has no chance of reaching its own renewable energy supply targets."



laugh.gif laugh.gif

I see Europe is dancing a wee Scottish jig too! huh.gif



mortonjag 2008-04-22 06:36:26
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Apr 21 2008, 09:42 PM) [snapback]438093[/snapback]
Hmm, you truly are the master of spin! rolleyes.gif wink.gif

Don't be a silly billy.

If Chocolate boy and the Spectral one want a cosy little chat they should pm each other.

FAO threads on the open forum are a contradiction and deserve everything they get.

Furthermore I WAS interested to hear another's experience of our much maligned Chairman. It doesn't matter now-the anally retentive little anorak's not worth it. sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-22 06:39:50 It's always the same in those situations. I remember the famous bread strike of the seventies, when an old lady was literally mugged in Coatbridge Asda because she'd got the last loaf of the shelf.


Man's inhumanity to man-eh! mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-22 06:49:02
QUOTE(CivicTypeR @ Apr 21 2008, 10:39 PM) [snapback]438127[/snapback]
Agreed.
just because the celtic fans hang tri colours round the stadium doesnt mean the scottish fans arent scottish? what else would u call them? The team is always going to have irish roots, but if your scottish then that doesnt that mean that you generally are from scotland?

Could the same not be said for rangers fans who call themselves scottish yet sing rule britania at the start of every game?

I know tons of Scots who wear turbans and Saris and stuff!
mortonjag 2008-04-22 06:50:57 I went to the same school as Anabel Goldie, Jim Mather, and Andrew Neil. None of them was particularly bright.
mortonjag 2008-04-22 06:53:57
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 22 2008, 06:19 AM) [snapback]438162[/snapback]
Oh dont you start! one is bad enough! laugh.gif

The point is that Spurtle believes not only that the statement makes sense (which it doesn't), but he uses it frequently when he has no answer!

Best to get it correct! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-22 06:55:45 Latter day Hal Stewarts!
mortonjag 2008-04-22 06:58:59
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 22 2008, 06:33 AM) [snapback]438164[/snapback]
You are up early today MJ!

Indeed- and will be up increasingly earlier until midsummer. My mind is controlled heavily by the weather and phases of the moon.

Anyhow it's nice to see wee Jim doing what Europe told him to. He was always an obedient child in Kilmacolm Primary School, and never the sharpest tool in the box, though he had a smashing flexy flier sledge, and a wee sister called Lorna.
mortonjag 2008-04-22 07:05:51
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Apr 21 2008, 10:04 PM) [snapback]438110[/snapback]
And he told you this when exactly? Don't say the Fans' Forum as we know you bottled out of that one. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif



QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 21 2008, 10:10 PM) [snapback]438115[/snapback]
If you were there , you'd have heard who the manager agreed with dry.gif . Jim McColl , DDFR or I

Thanks Chrissiboi-it seems to go right over the heads of eejits like Smiffy that Mortonjag has contacts.


It's getting a bit wearing listening to the same old 'bottler' stuff. before the said 'Fans Rally', I quoted:

'Won't you come in to my parlour said the spider to the fly'? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-22 07:07:55
QUOTE(ton1901 @ Apr 21 2008, 10:27 PM) [snapback]438121[/snapback]
cause he had a groin injury

NO
mortonjag 2008-04-22 07:09:41
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Apr 21 2008, 10:01 PM) [snapback]438108[/snapback]
Not very original, but Erik was known as 'Skippy' at Gretna. Let's adopt that nickname before MJ comes up with something ludicrous. laugh.gif laugh.gif

PANTALOONS is indeed a very effective player Smiffy.
mortonjag 2008-04-22 07:15:09
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 22 2008, 12:49 AM) [snapback]438153[/snapback]
Spoonsy never was and never will be...............................................fit. tongue.gif

Spoonsy's turning into a bit of an enigma. Everybody seems to believe that he's a lazy, overweight, unfit alcogambloholic.

Be that as it may, problems like those CAN be dealt with. Noel Hunt, for example, is doing 'no too bad' right now.

Peter has undoubted talent. I'm sure that if he indeed has the problems folk imagine, a proper football club would be seeking professional help for him.
mortonjag 2008-04-22 08:44:36
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 22 2008, 08:37 AM) [snapback]438190[/snapback]
a friend of mine works for jim mather and she describes him as 'a lovely man'. mind you, she's got ginormous tits, so maybe he's only being nice to try and cop a feel in the parliamentary office.

Jim was quite a shy lad who took a fair ribbing at school because his Daddy was the local Polisman.
mortonjag 2008-04-22 08:52:58
QUOTE(Alibi @ Apr 22 2008, 08:43 AM) [snapback]438193[/snapback]
What do you want Jim Mather to do? Break the law? You or I may not agree with the rules but if you're in the EU there is a need to at leat seem to be complying with EU laws. The wind farm can be sited somewhere else in the area. FFS MJ, your blind hatred of the SNP does lead you to come out with some nonsense.

With wind farms, you can't win. Nobody wants them in their own back garden.

Would that 'blind hatred' equate to the 'personal vendetta' you claimed I had for Mileson? wink.gif

As I've told you before Alibi, I support the concept of effective self government-NOT a ba' heided buffoon lording it over a toothless opposition, reneging on manifesto pledges, making an arse of the NHS, cow towing to Tories and homophobes, and BOASTING about 'making Westminster dance a Scottish jig'.

I've simply posted an excerpt from today's paper POINTING OUT that he's not as powerful as he'd like to be. I'd prefer to be less dependent on f*cking Europe for starters! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-22 08:54:44
QUOTE(se65an @ Apr 22 2008, 07:41 AM) [snapback]438179[/snapback]
Ok we will have Special K for all you fat b*****ds laugh.gif

Special K's a con Sean!
mortonjag 2008-04-22 09:00:29
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Apr 22 2008, 07:55 AM) [snapback]438181[/snapback]
I'm more of the view that individuals should take a wee bit of responsibility for themselves but nice to see you've joined the dependency culture MJ.

For Peter to appear unfit so often over his time with Morton does suggest he has some problems. It would be nice to think he was actively trying to address them given he's the professsional athlete.

Is it possible that he may indeed be aware of, and trying to address them without success, as is commonly the case with addictive problems?

If you understand anything about the addictive personality, you'll know exactly what I mean.

If he was in mainstream work, he'd probably already have been encouraged to seek help from the Occupational Health Service.

That's assuming he indeed has an addictive problem.
mortonjag 2008-04-22 09:27:46
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 22 2008, 09:10 AM) [snapback]438200[/snapback]
Too far , you would never make it! laugh.gif

It's not really very far-I could walk it in about an hour!
mortonjag 2008-04-22 09:47:29
QUOTE(rex manning @ Apr 22 2008, 09:26 AM) [snapback]438201[/snapback]
Can't he just be on a poor run of form? not an alcoholic gambler? I think Jimmy Boag called it right, he was left in the team for too long when his form dipped. If he had had a couple of weeks on the bench in favour of say Wake it would have helped him no end. I'd be quite confident if he comes on on Saturday that he can do the business.

I don't live in Inverclyde RM, but it seems to be commonly accepted that Spoonsy 'doesn't take care of himself' and he certainly has looked a bit short of pace lately.

Some people have, IMHO, been overly vicious in their criticism IF indeed he has addictive problems, which, after all, are an illness.
mortonjag 2008-04-22 11:00:12
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Apr 22 2008, 10:01 AM) [snapback]438215[/snapback]
Many congratulations. Here's hoping that you may be called upon to perform baby-sitting duties on a daily basis (from 8am-5.30 pm) tongue.gif .

laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-22 11:04:07
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Apr 22 2008, 10:43 AM) [snapback]438227[/snapback]
that would be ideal
that would be acceptable too.

It's my fiancee's wedding ring

Tell them she tried it on once and developed a horrible itchy rash on her ring finger. It is therefore unfit for the purpose for which it was sold and they have to refund under the Sale of Goods Act!
mortonjag 2008-04-22 11:07:42
QUOTE(rex manning @ Apr 22 2008, 09:55 AM) [snapback]438209[/snapback]
I think it's quite sad that people are throwing up this allegation again. Where is the proof? is he propping up the bar at word up every night? I think it's quite a jump from "short of pace" to "Jake bag".

I get annoyed when I hear it too, but the same story is repeated time after time by normally reliable posters, and even JM made guarded remarks about Peter's 'fitness'.
mortonjag 2008-04-22 11:09:36
QUOTE(ton1901 @ Apr 22 2008, 10:02 AM) [snapback]438216[/snapback]
well his brother was the one that told me that. he told the physio it was it was a bit tight and that was him out

I got my story from a reliable source.
mortonjag 2008-04-22 14:37:34
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 22 2008, 12:40 PM) [snapback]438280[/snapback]
What you on about ya dottery auld helmet ? blink.gif

Are you addressing Mortonjag, Bannock Baws? ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-22 14:42:03
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 22 2008, 01:52 PM) [snapback]438302[/snapback]
WDE, have to confess the shop in question is excellent. I got a watch as an engagement present from my wife years ago. It needs serviced and cleaned every 12 to 18 months and I always go back to them to get it done. The staff are very professional and knowledgable.

She. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-22 14:47:55
QUOTE(Alibi @ Apr 22 2008, 01:53 PM) [snapback]438303[/snapback]
I received the administrator's report today and some of the figures are shocking. The administrator was appointed around the 9th March, and up until the 16th April (around 5 weeks) they had accrued fees of £250,000. That's £50,000 a week!! Their charge out rate is over £206 an hour FFS!

Incidentally, the SPL has advanced Gretna £272,000, allegedly to keep the club going, but virtually all of this had already been syponed off by the administrators by this time last week, and they're still syphoning. How is this benefiting the creditors?

This whole business stinks to high heaven, even if Mileson isn't getting a kickback from the administrators (which wouldn't surprise me given some of the stuff I've been told.

It is clear that the compnay has been trading insolvently for months if not years. Oh, and I finally lost patience and phoned Mileson on his mobile. Surprise surprise, he's changed his number. Even Graeme Muir hasn't heard from him (and Graeme says he is owed about £6k for stuff he bought for Gretna on his credit card).

Oh yes, and the administrator's report states that the problems were caused because Mileson was ill. Absolute rubbish.

Why is Mileson getting such an easy ride here? Why are the Press not doorstepping him?

Creditors' meeting on 8th May at 11am. I will be there and I don't intend to sit there quietly - a lot of embarrassing questions to ask.

It's very unpleasant being raped Alibi-especially when the rape is (purportedly) legal.
mortonjag 2008-04-22 14:55:05
QUOTE(BlackIsleTon @ Apr 22 2008, 11:52 AM) [snapback]438250[/snapback]
He is the holding midfield player we have needed for a while, get him signed up. So is McGuffie - alot of people overcriticise him i think he does a brilliant job that goes unoticed.

Harding and Greacen have looked twice the players since Pantaloons and Huffy started mopping up for them. I'm getting a bit fed up with constant criticism of the latter-we've never looked back since they paired up at Palmerston. Folk have got paralysed by the flatter to deceive, headless chicken stuff of JM's midfield midgets!
mortonjag 2008-04-22 14:57:22
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Apr 22 2008, 12:32 PM) [snapback]438274[/snapback]
Ach shoosh you old fool, it was a joke. They know my style.

Quote from Harold Shipman! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-22 15:06:21
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Apr 22 2008, 12:48 PM) [snapback]438284[/snapback]
ps. I think Mortonjag should be banned or reined in by the administrators of this website.

Let me ask you a question you hirsute clown-do you know Douglas Rae personally-and by that I DON'T mean know him to see?


If so, you are biased and your opinion isn't worth a can of Irn Bru.

If not, your opinion is based on a totally random take of what he's 'done for you'.


For what it's worth, I have several pieces of confidential information which lead me to the inevitable conclusion that the Chairman has 'lost the place' so far as our club is concerned. That does NOT lead me to ask for his supporters to be 'banned or reined in'.


Hopefully your newly found status may speed your growing up process. Good luck!
mortonjag 2008-04-22 15:09:23 Steptoe and son move slowly at all times.
mortonjag 2008-04-22 15:18:22
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Apr 22 2008, 03:14 PM) [snapback]438353[/snapback]
This post will be reported, and I urge anyone else insulted directly by MortonJag to do the same. Report button, bottom left corner of each post, so we can rid our formerly good messageboard of him.
My wanting you banned is not just in your referring to the Morton chairman, constantly, as a fud or old fud, but also your homophobic, hair-ophobic, EVERYTHING-phobic posts which are destroying this board and every thread you infest.

This has nothing to do with supporting Mr Rae or not, it has everything to do with your ruining this place for just about everyone.

laugh.gif

Excellent stuff.

Hark at yourself almighty one-no sorry


*bleep* OFF dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-22 15:20:59
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Apr 22 2008, 03:18 PM) [snapback]438359[/snapback]
Calm down. Live and let live. You don't have to read any posts on here that you don't want to. rolleyes.gif

wink.gif


I thought Mr Rae was the arrogant one who wanted to foist his opinions on everybody else-maybe the good Dong has inherited some of his genes! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-22 15:29:10
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 22 2008, 03:23 PM) [snapback]438368[/snapback]
i think you demean the concept of rape by using the word so loosely. i suspect you've been looking for a bite on that one for a while now, so here it is.

Chambers Dictionary

Rape-plunder, seizure


Rapacious- grasping, greedy for gain.



There-I bit.

Alibi is entitled to feel raped. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-22 15:42:11
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Apr 22 2008, 03:30 PM) [snapback]438377[/snapback]
Yeah, sure, has he insulted you yet? Thought not wink.gif
I don't think he should be calling the Morton chairman a fud, and I'd say that even if I despised the man.

It's all about respect and MortonJag's going to have to start learning about that soon, or I'll do my utmost that he regrets he didn't show more.

We're on here to stick up for ourselves, Rae or whoever his next target is isn't. Insults don't bother me, but in MortonJag's case, they will from now on...

Respect is earned. Scott, the ex Morton Chairman was, I presume, highly regarded by your goodself because of his status. Would you not have dreamt of calling him a 'fud' even in a moment of rare weakness?

I really DO think you need to grow up son-now that's not meant as an insult-I actually find your puerile loyalty to a badge of office quite endearing-and indeed I am old enough to be your father.

I am very careful about what I say, and the way I put things-even if it often looks quite the opposite, and many posters with whom I share regular p.m.'s know that I am absolutely meticulous in never betraying confidences or revealing private information I've been passed.

The one thing about your post which I do take exception to is the element of threat. Mortonjag does NOT threaten people, and refuses to be threatened by you or anyone else.

It takes all kinds to make the world go round. Don't let a sad old man get your knickers in a twist!

mortonjag 2008-04-22 16:23:17
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 22 2008, 03:54 PM) [snapback]438389[/snapback]
MJ has insulted me before and i've insulted him on threads but then on another thread at the same time as we're arguing we'll be having a laugh.

If either of us saw it as more than just an internet messageboard and really thought we wished bad things on each other then im sure we'd both report each other.

you just have to look at the thread about MJ's new grandaughter and the well wishes, some probably from people who dont particularly like him to know not to take this all too seriously.

he is an old fud though.

You have been duly reported-feel threatened-your end is nigh! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-22 16:34:50
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 22 2008, 04:26 PM) [snapback]438409[/snapback]
laugh.gif
mad.gif
only 16 years until your Grand-daughter is 16. Can't wait to call you Granpappy. tongue.gif


blink.gif


BTW PT, do you realise that the term 'fud', as used by myself, is a shortened form of 'Fuddy Duddy'-a person who is very old fashioned and pompous according to the Oxford dictionary?

If some of our esteemed posters were more literate they might not find that description of Mr D.D.F. Rae, Chairman of Greenock Morton Football Club, and celebrated international confectioner, to be much off the mark.

I have never suggested that Mr Rae ever does anything but his very, very best, and have it on excellent authority that his heart is in the right place. Those are indeed commendable qualities.
mortonjag 2008-04-22 18:56:47
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Apr 22 2008, 06:36 PM) [snapback]438481[/snapback]
Who do I think I am? I'm a user of this board, just like you, and that's why we've all got that little report button. For reporting, that's what it's for.
Don't have a scoob what the rest of your post is about regarding STT etc, but I don't put myself in that category of supporter.

One of the problems I have with MJ is that HE does! THAT'S who you should be targetting in your post, not me if that is what you are doing! HE says he has "info", knows what Mr Rae is really like, blah blah slever blah. He's the one calling the shots on this thread and every other one he gets his teeth into, and ridiculing and belittling and insulting any who disagree or contest his points, usually with a put down about their sexuality and lack of years.

I'm not trying to silence someone's opinion.
The guy is taking the p1ss out this place, why don't you admit it Russell?

Am I being too sensitive that homosexual Morton fans reading this clowns constant references to poofs and gays, etc, etc are being offended? Am I being too protective of the chairman of Morton by saying he maybe deserves a little more respect than being constantly referred to as a fud?

Toby, I disagree with you. I don't think it is right that someone can go on about poofs and niggers and sluts and so on, no, even in the anarchic world of footy messageboards there has to be some decorum, surely. I am as near the knuckle as any on here with some of my attempts at humour, say, but this guy just rants crap. Sorry.

You most certainly are-that is YOUR problem!

This is NOT about Douglas Rae, or the homosexuals you claim I offend, when every post I ever make about sexuality is tongue in cheek, and when I go to every Morton match with a homosexual, whom I regard as my best pal-it's about Donga's monstrous ego and the fact that he just can't cope with Mortonjag.

Now why don't you just run along sonny and accept you ain't going to start a revolution on here. I don't take you to task for your obsession with wee pop tunes and girls.

One final point-if you have been one of Douglas Rae's greatest critics in the past, what has altered your opinion?
mortonjag 2008-04-22 18:58:49
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Apr 22 2008, 06:51 PM) [snapback]438484[/snapback]
Your an Old Fud

Indeed, young man - I probably am in the eyes of most jumped up brats. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-22 19:07:02
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 22 2008, 07:03 PM) [snapback]438504[/snapback]
This revolution would never have happened in Nacho's day!

I hope that's not a criticism of our Mods-they are good chaps I assure you.
mortonjag 2008-04-22 19:09:29
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Apr 22 2008, 07:07 PM) [snapback]438514[/snapback]
Aw aye, now I remember. Aye, this new regime is gay. Of course, by gay, I mean happy.

You have just been reported for arrant homophobia-be thoroughly ashamed.
mortonjag 2008-04-22 19:10:38
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 22 2008, 07:08 PM) [snapback]438516[/snapback]
our mods are excellent, but nacho was a Super-Mod.

he even had the lycro outfit, with pants over tights with " SM " written on it.

Spank me?
mortonjag 2008-04-22 19:12:43
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 22 2008, 04:14 PM) [snapback]438402[/snapback]
Aye... unsure.gif

You have been duly reported for disrespect-feel ashamed.
mortonjag 2008-04-22 19:14:46 They're probably gone by now, but douse in lemon juice and seasoning, cover in cling film and microwave on medium for four or five minutes.
mortonjag 2008-04-22 19:16:58
QUOTE(Alibi @ Apr 22 2008, 03:35 PM) [snapback]438379[/snapback]
Well, I don't. Ripped off yes, but I agree that raped is not the appropriate word to use.

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mortonjag 2008-04-22 19:18:33
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 22 2008, 07:02 PM) [snapback]438502[/snapback]
what's more, we share the majority of our dna sad.gif

The world is a much better place for Mortonjag's DNA.
mortonjag 2008-04-22 19:21:12
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 22 2008, 03:28 PM) [snapback]438374[/snapback]
Was that you or the cheeky monkey??

Fing.
mortonjag 2008-04-22 19:23:42
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Apr 22 2008, 07:08 PM) [snapback]438515[/snapback]
Did I miss something about Hal? Or were you his GP? I think we should be told...

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Oh I'm sure Hal's balls were perfect in every way.

I was alluding to the fact that (so far as I'm aware) Morton were the first British side to sport fluorescent strips.
mortonjag 2008-04-22 19:25:26
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Apr 22 2008, 07:18 PM) [snapback]438532[/snapback]
I never micro fish as it just explodes on me sad.gif

It's all to do with cooking them slowly enough LL.
mortonjag 2008-04-22 19:29:08 I have had a quarter of a tank since the weekend and haven't needed to use the car. Thankfully we're at Firhill this Saturday.

Mind you, for the first time ever, I've considered getting one of those bus passes to which I believe I may be entitled. I'm a great believer in independence, but maybe I'm shooting myself in the foot.
mortonjag 2008-04-22 19:36:26
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 22 2008, 03:23 PM) [snapback]438370[/snapback]
your contacts are blatantly looking at threads on here. tongue.gif

if you had such damning evidence against Dougie then you would show us it, not only to make everyone know you're right all along, but as fellow Morton fans we'd have the right to know if he was f***ing up our club.

but seeing as you're the master of all smoke and no fire i won't hold my breath, as Dougie probably has more damning evidence against you than you do against him.

What has he been telling you next?
mortonjag 2008-04-22 19:39:19
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 22 2008, 05:43 PM) [snapback]438456[/snapback]
i'm sure if i have i'll be reported by Donga in due course. tongue.gif

Lay off poor Donga you


TROUBLE MAKER
mortonjag 2008-04-22 19:42:41
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 22 2008, 07:41 PM) [snapback]438547[/snapback]
what he has told me is private, i'll never tell. Just know that i have been given information about MJ from Dougie that would show you all what an egomaniac he is and would ruin his life, reputation and change the way this board runs forever!
...but ill never tell.

...which just goes to prove I was right in not trusting the Shooglemeister.
mortonjag 2008-04-22 19:44:02
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 22 2008, 07:42 PM) [snapback]438550[/snapback]
Reported! s***ebag!

How dare you call me a s***ebag-how very, very DARE you!
mortonjag 2008-04-22 19:46:34
QUOTE(C B @ Apr 22 2008, 07:38 PM) [snapback]438544[/snapback]
Hi Pedro,

Most of the shirts were removed from ebay this morning because it is against ebay policy to accept cash apparently blink.gif and I had listed that I accept cash, (bad me) so I had to change it ?!?!????

Anyway, sorry about that everyone, I have relisted all offending shirts.

Ebay bampots !

mad.gif
PS Hi everyone i'm new biggrin.gif

May I be the first to say welcome to the forum. It's not every day you get a chance to be personal with somebody elses wife! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-22 19:52:31
QUOTE(davidh1874 @ Apr 22 2008, 07:47 PM) [snapback]438553[/snapback]
Davie Irons is tonights studio guest on beyond the spl, radio scotland, with Bill Leckie and Des McKeown from 8pm.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/sol/newsid_64...s=1&bbcws=1

Interesting-TY!
mortonjag 2008-04-22 19:55:51
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 22 2008, 07:52 PM) [snapback]438559[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-04-23 06:29:08
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 22 2008, 08:27 PM) [snapback]438576[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

bluff!!



True-Trumpet!


QUOTE(Clydebuilt @ Apr 22 2008, 10:30 PM) [snapback]438667[/snapback]
Aye that's a good one Mortonjag - what about the girl with the bi-polar condition whose brilliant career was halted due to her illness and is now only able to work as a volunteer in Oxfam Music on Byres Rd. Christ, you basically told us everything about her except the colour of her knickers.



Did she give you prior permission to divulge her mental health problems to all and sundry on a public messageboard?



What about her-she's a friend-not a patient. Her knickers are usually white with red polka dots, but when she's really high she wears none, and shaves her pubes in the shape of a raspberry tart.











QUOTE(nach0king @ Apr 22 2008, 11:12 PM) [snapback]438716[/snapback]
It's like the time he claimed he "always" tries to answer any question put to him, before around 30 minutes later proceeding to do, err, the exact opposite.



Goodness, the children are very clever at casting up mistruths.


QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 23 2008, 02:10 AM) [snapback]438814[/snapback]
Now all the rose tinted brigade are offended because you highlight there stupidity , I mean how many are happy to go along with the party line no matter the outcome .

The moderator should and does police the boards . Using a smokescreen about MJ being offensive just to save yourself a summer of I told you so's .

I wonder who is next on the donga witchhunt , so the trumpet will be passing out the pitchforks .

If you make the same job of it as Dougie has of running the club this year I don't think MJ will have anything to worry about , probably won't be able to get the better of the monkey knowing you lot .

If you take offence , good .


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mortonjag 2008-04-23 07:01:51
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 22 2008, 07:57 PM) [snapback]438561[/snapback]

What are you sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif ing at Trumpet? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-23 07:06:13 Our manager's just been the guest on an hour long radio programme. I'm fascinated to read the flood of comments! rolleyes.gif


I was impressed by David Irons-clearly a good deal brighter than his paymaster. Hopefully he'll be able to get his own way while making the former feel he's still in charge! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-23 07:08:00
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 22 2008, 09:53 PM) [snapback]438634[/snapback]
...and we are not right to trust you.

im happy to trust both of you or neither of you, but not just you. you're too alike to think differently. tongue.gif

Do you REALLY think I'm like Mr Rae. If so, why do I come in for so much abuse?
mortonjag 2008-04-23 07:13:24
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 22 2008, 11:00 PM) [snapback]438702[/snapback]
well done moronjag, here's to more of your ..
oh, sorry sad.gif

laugh.gif

Don't worry Trumpet, 'moronjag's long since learned from the mistakes of his younger days. It never ceases to amaze me the fuss that's still made over weddings, when every c*nt lives in sin anyway.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 07:18:06
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 22 2008, 08:05 PM) [snapback]438565[/snapback]
that's not what the banana said laugh.gif

The banana, like many of our younger posters, was jealous and deluded.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 07:20:38
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Apr 22 2008, 07:38 PM) [snapback]438543[/snapback]
I know that's not what you mean, but Colkitto will love that quote. tongue.gif

Spurtle knows I want independence-I just can't abide the politics of Bawheid and his bairns.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 07:24:48
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 22 2008, 09:36 PM) [snapback]438617[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(C B @ Apr 22 2008, 09:34 PM) [snapback]438583[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->So what are the men like on this forum? wink.gif
Can't speak for the rest of them but I'm hung like a dunkey.

Aye pimpleknob you've still got a bit of hope stickin' oot yer erse this morning..
mortonjag 2008-04-23 07:27:04
QUOTE(C B @ Apr 22 2008, 07:59 PM) [snapback]438562[/snapback]
You may, thank you and is it every other day? wink.gif
You look a lot like Kevin Finlayson unsure.gif
tongue.gif

I go for quality, not quantity Mrs CB!
mortonjag 2008-04-23 07:30:40
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 22 2008, 08:44 PM) [snapback]438590[/snapback]
You give it out but can't take it ? rolleyes.gif

You have touched a very tender spot Spurtle-I have been weeping inconsolably all night-important people have been calling for my head on a platter, and I don't know if I can take much more.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 07:39:29
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Apr 22 2008, 10:49 PM) [snapback]438689[/snapback]
I had a situation a few years ago when I tried to do my duty as an upstanding citizen. I reported any anti-social behaviour I saw along with a couple of crimes I witnessed. I made statements to the polis and let them know I was prepared to be a witness. And I never heard another word. And then they stepped on my toes. And I battered the ringleader in front of his mates.They disappeared like snow aff a dyke. Five minutes later I had 3 of the Mets finest,including a Sergeant at my door. I told them what I thought of them and denied any knowledge of the incident. Guess what? I never heard a word about it! And the miscreants never showed their faces round my way again. Your only a youngster, same sort of ages as these toerags were, so I understand you still being idealistic. Please don't think I'm patronising you but when you have been around for another 30 years you might understand why I feel the way i do. My method worked and that's what I'm interested in. wink.gif

Indeed, you cannot put an old head on young shoulders. Our nation is currently in a stranglehold of political correctness, and our justice system is failing us.

I can't but laugh at our youngsters when they claim the birch would be seen as a badge of achievement-that, coming from a generation who've never even seen the taws in school is utterly risible.

Do you recall the well publicised Isle of Man case:

Probably the most notorious case was in July 1965 when four 19-year-old thugs on holiday from Glasgow got 9 strokes each -- more or less equivalent, one supposes, to 36 strokes of the cane across the bare seat. This led to a great clamour (especially in Scotland) to bring back the birch on the mainland, with the famous picture in the Sunday Mirror in which a couple of the youths show (a few of) their weals.

Behaviour can always be controlled by a judicious balance of carrot and stick. Unfortunately some little asses are allergic to carrots.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 07:44:43
QUOTE(Dr Zhivago @ Apr 23 2008, 12:16 AM) [snapback]438785[/snapback]
I played table tennis on the table Boris Yeltsin played on when he was at his purpose built residence in Eastern Russia... wondered about the whole place. Kalashnikov carrying guards raised the barrier to let us in. The vistors book only had a couple of dozen entries, all foreign dignataries... then me! laugh.gif Helmut Kohl had signed a couple of places above. I'm one of 5 brothers. I'm also double jointed!

So am I, and have a wee sister too!
mortonjag 2008-04-23 07:47:15
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 23 2008, 12:00 AM) [snapback]438773[/snapback]
green beans ?

butter beans ?

borlotti beans ?

Roman beans ?

Cranberry beans ?

Saluggia beans ?

Rosecoco beans ?

has beans ?

broad beans ?

baked beans ?

Is another poll required ?

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QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 23 2008, 12:07 AM) [snapback]438778[/snapback]
oops - I forgot ...
red kidney beans

lima beans

Garbanzo beans

great northern beans

any more ?



I suspect the beans our posters refer to are 'baked beans in tomato sauce'!

Peas are better for you and contain more vitamin and fibre in general!
mortonjag 2008-04-23 07:51:02
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 22 2008, 11:40 PM) [snapback]438746[/snapback]
Neither does mortonjag yet he manages!



QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 22 2008, 11:58 PM) [snapback]438772[/snapback]
think there are so many cliques on this board that a lot of people feel intimidated about posting, i know i was when i first came on this board.

Although i used to talk a lot more sense when iwas just saying my opinion to stangers rather than having the confidence to have conversations with them as people i know of and relate to etc.

now i just talk a pile of pish and after ive said it i bang my head of my desk and a little piece of me dies inside.



QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 23 2008, 01:01 AM) [snapback]438804[/snapback]
i'm already gone. I have me an older man, a doctor. Finally a man with social standing to keep me warm at night, and cure my piles.

How does one become a member of one of those cliques. I feel very isolated?
mortonjag 2008-04-23 07:53:35
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Apr 23 2008, 07:18 AM) [snapback]438825[/snapback]
Thanks!
Thanks!
thanks!
thanks paul!
Err, thanks! smile.gif

Well-every c*nt except Donga! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-23 07:58:19
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Apr 23 2008, 07:54 AM) [snapback]438837[/snapback]
? It was brought up to convey that he thinks something of me, and he's wrong,and many think something of him, and they are wrong. Totally valid. No one's stuck up for Toby more than me on threads he's been criticised on.

All that most are pointing out? Have a read through again, take the donga'sadick glasses off for a minute. wink.gif

I love your last line. You are correct. I MAY disagree, we are all entitled to that. Without fear of ridicule, called a clown, accusations of having chairman's faces tattoed on our arses and being told we are trumpets with rose tinted spectacles, on.
I've been accused of trying to stop free speech? I'm shouting out in favour of it cos mine is being stifled. I'm one of the good guys, Jack. wink.gif

I called for a board user to be reined in, asked the moderators. Of course, banning is way over the top. Intentionally so, on my part. This was all a warning shot, a reminder that there's report button and that people can't just rampage through this place, which is for all of us, like it's their own plaything, with us that use it toys to be played with.

I hope he's got the message.

Loud and clear almighty one-loud and clear! rolleyes.gif


Where is the sermon being preached this Sunday-I'd love to come along?
mortonjag 2008-04-23 08:01:40
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Apr 23 2008, 07:58 AM) [snapback]438840[/snapback]
Note the use of the multi reply function there, MJ wink.gif

Yes Dear, I've quite got used to it thanks to your helpful advice. wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-23 08:03:41 Happy birthday Greacen-you are three weeks older than my daughter-have a nice day!
mortonjag 2008-04-23 08:04:59 Other forum for this sh*t! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-23 08:07:05
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Apr 23 2008, 08:02 AM) [snapback]438842[/snapback]
Ah see, you say you'd come and would then sh1t out of it. wink.gif

laugh.gif

I promise to come-honest-it's been a long time since I worshipped, and I'm clearly in need of divine intervention!
mortonjag 2008-04-23 08:08:43
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Apr 23 2008, 08:03 AM) [snapback]438843[/snapback]
I know it's dented the ol' post count, but it makes you just about bearable mate. smile.gif

unsure.gif

Thank f*ck I'm not unbearable then! sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-23 08:10:11
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 23 2008, 08:08 AM) [snapback]438847[/snapback]
If you persist in calling me 'pimpleknob' I will be forced to report you to the Moderators.

Consider this your last warning.

Nae probs micropenis.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 08:17:41
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Apr 23 2008, 08:12 AM) [snapback]438850[/snapback]
You didn't need divine intervention, you just needed a reality check. smile.gif

I'm real-HONEST!

Just about to run my darling to work-toodle pip!
mortonjag 2008-04-23 08:38:35
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 23 2008, 08:31 AM) [snapback]438853[/snapback]
I don't know if I can take much more either blink.gif

Shall we do it then? sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-23 08:40:27
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 23 2008, 08:35 AM) [snapback]438855[/snapback]
Ha ha, that'll do, cheers. smile.gif

You're a sucker for propriety nae vat shoes.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 08:41:48
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Apr 23 2008, 08:13 AM) [snapback]438851[/snapback]
ps. Other forum for this sh1te! smile.gif

Tell your pals-they'll switch it over for you! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-23 08:55:18
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 23 2008, 08:49 AM) [snapback]438859[/snapback]
Rae gets a lot more abuse than you, you're both just misunderstood.

Are you acquainted with Mrs Rae? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-23 08:57:05
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 23 2008, 08:50 AM) [snapback]438860[/snapback]
the grand-master doesn't have a clique, he just watches over his minions.

But Donga's not speaking to me-won't you tell me-PLEASE? sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-23 09:31:09
QUOTE(nach0king @ Apr 23 2008, 09:16 AM) [snapback]438864[/snapback]

I said I attempt to answer questions-NOT rhetorical questions.

You didn't seriously want an answer to that, or if you did, perhaps you can now pose your query in a clear and specific manner.

If, however, it's about my publicising confidential information don't be daft.

The truth is, ex-mod, that you're exposing your vulnerability to Mortonjag's fatal charm, and it doesn't become a man of your intelligence.

Nor, for that matter, does harbouring petty schoolboy grudges! ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-23 09:36:02
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Apr 23 2008, 09:09 AM) [snapback]438863[/snapback]
Now that's what I call irony! smile.gif

laugh.gif

Ironic as it may well be, the minions should know better than to question the Grand Master's authority.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 09:37:39
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 23 2008, 09:28 AM) [snapback]438865[/snapback]
Aye, you first tongue.gif

Nope- pact or nuffin Haggis Heid.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 09:39:26
QUOTE(nach0king @ Apr 23 2008, 09:37 AM) [snapback]438868[/snapback]
If you deem a queston rhetorical then you don't have to answer it, right, I see.

Never considered a career in politics?

Politics is not a career - it's a chronic criminal offence.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 09:52:39 I would like everybody who posts on those forums to be Mortonjag's friend.

He is, in reality, just a lonely and sad old fud, and the constant criticism is disheartening, and weakening his will to live.

The huge effort he makes on a daily basis to stimulate thinking people appears either to fall on barren land, or to provoke unwarranted abuse from perfectly sane people who should know better.

Do you REALLY want Mortonjag to perish? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-23 09:56:55
QUOTE(midTONs @ Apr 23 2008, 09:45 AM) [snapback]438871[/snapback]
Click to read

Surely this club ought to be would up now.

I feel for guys like Alibi as surely the administrators are breaking the law and committing theft by allowing them to continue.

They are being well and truly raped-the knock on effect for small business must be huge. I believe that the Administrator has much to explain.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 10:06:37
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Apr 23 2008, 10:02 AM) [snapback]438875[/snapback]
Has to laugh at the other Guy in the Tele last nite filling up withe £50 to fill his tank "if everyone fills ther tanks ther will be caoes" unsure.gif unsure.gif is it just me

At least his tank was pretty empty Pedro-those who are buying a tenner's worth to fill up are the real problem.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 10:11:37
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Apr 23 2008, 10:06 AM) [snapback]438878[/snapback]
That's just Mother Nature... wink.gif

blink.gif


I never thought of that. Is Mother Nature also to blame for the constant abuse poor Mortonjag has to suffer on a daily basis?

If so Mother Nature is an old FUD.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 10:15:45
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Apr 23 2008, 10:04 AM) [snapback]438877[/snapback]
Aidsridden McGheady the pathetic, plastic paddie, partakes in painful prostate pouvrie to parturition plums. blink.gif

That's an extremely serious allegation.

There again I may be misunderstanding the meaning of your sentence. Allegators should ensure nobody can snap back.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 10:19:01
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Apr 23 2008, 10:14 AM) [snapback]438883[/snapback]
The battle to be the messageboard leader continues......that's right a public messageboard where you can display picures of your pet monkey, your album of the week and any old tosh you like, excatly what a messageboard should be.

Those with any greater agenda's are a little sad in my opinion.



wink.gif


QUOTE(Boozehound @ Apr 23 2008, 10:17 AM) [snapback]438885[/snapback]
Will the talk of banning please stop now as apparently I'm "one of the worst offenders on this board". unsure.gif


Don't be silly BH-many of your posts are little gems.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 10:46:05
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Apr 23 2008, 10:21 AM) [snapback]438888[/snapback]
Sounds as if you are depressed. I would suggest that you call the Samaritans.

Maybe you will got one of the new Samaritan call centres in Pakistan so that when you tell them that you are suicidal, they will ask you if you also want a job as an HGV driver biggrin.gif .

Boom Fecking Boom!



I tried that last time-they told me to take a couple of aspirins and 'phone back in the morning if I felt no better. I said that I might not be there in the morning, and she just laughed and hung up on me.


QUOTE(Boozehound @ Apr 23 2008, 10:25 AM) [snapback]438891[/snapback]
No (more) abuse for you from me Doc. I appreciated the free medical advice you see, so you're off my list. For now.


Anyone is welcome to my home remedies BH-I'm currently working on a treatment for excessive body hair-oh and I've just patented my therapy for brown tongue syndrome.


QUOTE(DongaTon @ Apr 23 2008, 10:38 AM) [snapback]438898[/snapback]
Did it come back positive mate? Unlucky sad.gif



I've always been unlucky.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 10:53:49
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Apr 23 2008, 10:37 AM) [snapback]438897[/snapback]
I don't want to be leader of anything, I want the board to belong to everyone again.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Apr 23 2008, 10:38 AM) [snapback]438899[/snapback]
I'm actually refraining from posting. I'm assuming that if Boozie is one of the worst offenders on here and frequently crosses the line then I'm at least lumped in that same category by that section of board members who feel we cross the line and have too much levity.

Shame really.

This thread, if nothing else, merely heightens my belief that we should have another board (either as part of this board, or if that is not something that the current owners wish to host then have it elsewhere) which would be members only, aimed at like minded people who don't take things to heart too seriously and who are up for a bit of craic.

Now that doesn't meant that forum would be OK for any racist/religious/family attacks etc but a bit like the old night shift forum it would give those of us who sadly have the same sense of humour somewhere to play on a late Friday night without impinging on the sensitivities of the rest. By default it would become a board full of people who've been around for several years on several message boards accusing each other of the same sh�te we always have - just in private. Members only means that anyone who joins can't get a veto on our levity or sense of humour - it would be self policing - as this board has been over the years.

TonInDublin

ps Boozie, I'm disgusted with the direction in which you have taken this board. For shame young man, for shame.


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mortonjag 2008-04-23 10:56:44
QUOTE(princessTON @ Apr 23 2008, 10:55 AM) [snapback]438907[/snapback]
Why can't everyone play nice and stop acting like a bunch of bickering women?? unsure.gif

HE started it! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-23 11:04:09
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Apr 23 2008, 10:57 AM) [snapback]438909[/snapback]
dont worry mate wink.gif ye can be ma buddy


Shucks-thanks Thrax! smile.gif





QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 23 2008, 10:58 AM) [snapback]438910[/snapback]
Don't be so sensitive MJ. I have had more abuse than I care to remember on these forums over the years. sad.gif

You must be very tough Spurtle-I am but a frail soul-how do you cope with it all? blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-23 11:07:19
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 23 2008, 11:02 AM) [snapback]438913[/snapback]
Beans for me. Like the piccy mate? Is your cupboard full of these...? biggrin.gif

[attachment=3948:Beans.jpg]

A million housewives every day, pick up a can of beans and say











































where's the bloody tin opener?
mortonjag 2008-04-23 11:08:58
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 23 2008, 11:07 AM) [snapback]438917[/snapback]
It's not easy MJ. But I have a strong family and friends that support me through the hard times.

You actually sound like quite a nice person Claymore C*ck. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-23 11:11:14 I was amused to hear the Jag's Chairman describe the SPL as a Panzer Division! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-23 11:21:22
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Apr 23 2008, 10:36 AM) [snapback]438896[/snapback]
Many thanks HT, and GT.

It's going to be a great day. smile.gif

Will it be an expensive bash?

When do I get the invitation? mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-23 11:41:21
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Apr 23 2008, 11:33 AM) [snapback]438935[/snapback]
It's expensive enough. smile.gif

I'm afraid we are struggling for space, but you are top of the reserve list, but of course smile.gif

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That's overly generous-I knew you were a good guy all along.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 11:44:38
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Apr 23 2008, 11:33 AM) [snapback]438936[/snapback]
There you are! Feeling better already,it's good to talk! laugh.gif

I do feel a bit better-sometimes I feel the whole world is against me but I now realise I have at least two friends.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 11:49:10
QUOTE(leyTON @ Apr 23 2008, 11:44 AM) [snapback]438950[/snapback]
i see your point about my age but for too long people have thought that young people cant make informed decisions, which i refute and its why i think the voting age should be 16
i also think when you advocate these floggings you have young people in mind, like i asid to midtons; would you advocate the beating of a 70 year old criminal?

If you are talking about automatic punishment for certain offences, age should not be a consideration.

Spanking of wrinkled pink botties for the recalcitrant, I say.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 11:51:43
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 23 2008, 11:49 AM) [snapback]438956[/snapback]
Does anyone else prefer the Branston beans to Hienze or just me?

I always buy the cheapest unbranded-usually Tesco's-ground black pepper and a dash of Worcestershire sauce, and you can't tell the difference.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 12:00:07
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 23 2008, 11:47 AM) [snapback]438952[/snapback]
Invite him to your place! Yous can sit and talk medical things about your leg or something and me and Fing will do a jigsaw biggrin.gif



Fing would probably prefer you to play with his arsenal.


QUOTE(leyTON @ Apr 23 2008, 11:48 AM) [snapback]438953[/snapback]
you know i like you mj
however if you continue your veil of secrecy, how will we know if you do perish? unsure.gif

The Monkey has already been appointed as my executor-he has all the instructions, including my epitaph:

Here lies Mortonjag-thank f*ck.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 14:46:41
QUOTE(Clydebuilt @ Apr 23 2008, 01:47 PM) [snapback]439013[/snapback]
Thought you always answered the question MJ? I'll take it you didn't ask her for permission then?

I supppose I could always pop into the shop before the game on Saturday and see what she thinks about you discussing her mental health issues in public........and her pubes.

You wouldn't know her if you met her in your avatar.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 14:52:42
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 23 2008, 12:43 PM) [snapback]438980[/snapback]
WTF is a dunkey?

A Yale on the lavvy door.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 14:56:43
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Apr 23 2008, 12:14 PM) [snapback]438963[/snapback]
whos mortonjag?

some old fud who upsets weans

QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 23 2008, 12:15 PM) [snapback]438966[/snapback]
Jigsaw first, we'll see how the night progresses!


Fing calls the shots
QUOTE(Yoda @ Apr 23 2008, 01:01 PM) [snapback]438995[/snapback]
I thought it would be "I told you I was ill!!" laugh.gif


'You wouldn't listen'! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-23 14:57:58
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Apr 23 2008, 12:55 PM) [snapback]438986[/snapback]
Anyone know any good sites for cheap flights to Krakow?

How big is your rocket?
mortonjag 2008-04-23 15:03:07
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Apr 23 2008, 02:52 PM) [snapback]439034[/snapback]
Happy Birthday Bill Shakespeare.

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I think you'll find that the Bard will be 444 this Saturday Mr Bam! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-23 15:06:05
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Apr 23 2008, 03:01 PM) [snapback]439042[/snapback]
Shocking

I have a horrible feeling that somebody may find this upsetting, but I wonder if Mr Rae knows how to iron a shirt.

If anybody does find this offensive, it's not meant to be, and I also wonder if he polishes his own shoes.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 15:10:45
QUOTE(ton5saints1 @ Apr 23 2008, 03:00 PM) [snapback]439041[/snapback]
Surely the S.P.L. would have checked this out before giving Gretna their £250,000 pay out before it was due - surely they're not that incompetent !?

Or maybe those who thought that the S.P.L. dished out the money to save the embarrasment of all Gretna's results being declared null and void, making a further farce of the situation, are correct.

Certainly does look good for us if we go to the play-offs, but a real shame for the genuine Gretna fans (club was founded in the mid 1940s) if the club does go bust.

Do you really come from Shawlands?
mortonjag 2008-04-23 15:12:57
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Apr 23 2008, 07:55 AM) [snapback]438838[/snapback]
Creditors include £1.7m loan from Mileson - brass necked cheek in the circumstances.

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mortonjag 2008-04-23 15:15:01
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Apr 23 2008, 02:57 PM) [snapback]439038[/snapback]
Ah the old " Allegations have been made about me, and I know who the alligators are!". wink.gif

In my case attributed first to a certain Charlotte Toal, cooncillor in bonnie Coatbridge by the sea.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 15:23:44
QUOTE(princessTON @ Apr 23 2008, 03:20 PM) [snapback]439057[/snapback]
I just put dirty washing in the basket, and it reappears in my wardrobe washed and ironed, must be the fairies?? wink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-04-23 15:28:55
QUOTE(midTONs @ Apr 23 2008, 03:23 PM) [snapback]439059[/snapback]
I cannot be bothered searching back but if you half half a memory in other discussions on this this board I have always said the birch should be used for youth crime (under 21s) after that substansial prison sentences should be imposed in prison with no play consoles in cell, no tv's in cell, they could have 3-4 hours per night at recreation to watch tv and play games.
If they wanted to relieve boredom let them read a book or listen to a radio.

I take it your theory is that it would stamp out such problems before the offenders ever reached 21.

I'm sure it would, but I don't see the harm in birching wrinked pink botties, even for first offenders in their nineties. sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-23 15:40:24
QUOTE(ton5saints1 @ Apr 23 2008, 03:28 PM) [snapback]439061[/snapback]
Oh, and I disagree with Derek Collins 'overseeing' this new system.

Derek is the Morton assistant manager and that should be a job in itself - surely an experienced youth coach should be put on the payrole with overall control of such affairs (and maybe visit New Douglas Park in the process) !

I can't see any need for that at our current level. I always wondered what Martin Clark got paid for.

Obviously a change in fortunes and income would justify more expenditure on staff wages.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 15:42:43
QUOTE(Toby @ Apr 23 2008, 03:39 PM) [snapback]439067[/snapback]
Donga,

At what particular point have I ever tried to come across as a good guy? Never. I know my behaviour at away games upsets alot of people, I know I've said things on here that have really got to folk and I'm the guy that stood outside Forthbank just over a year ago giving our then manager a volley of abuse that should probably have had me locked up. That is not the actions of a "good guy". Some of my mates have come on here in the past to defend me when others have had their piece to say against me, it's never been encouraged by myself though.

If you want to turn the tables on me and imply that folk have a perception of me as a bit of a w*nker that's fine, I'm comfortable with it, always have been. It doesn't change my perception of you in the slightest.

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mortonjag 2008-04-23 15:57:00
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 23 2008, 03:50 PM) [snapback]439078[/snapback]
I asked about the possibility of sponsoring the youth teams separately they could even raffle the sponsorship . Got an unenthusiastic response from Crawford .

I we gave the youth set up a higher profile at the club , info on games players we right up in the local papers you never know that might promote abit of interest and inturn external funding .

I think the problems go much deeper than simply 'fixing' the youth set up. When almost every forward looking club in the country is getting involved with the local community in numerous ways and encouraging identification with the local team, we appear to be stuck in a time warp.

Is it possible for me to blame Douglas Rae for that without yet again being accused of high treason by those who are privy to his grand plan. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-23 16:04:57
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Apr 23 2008, 04:02 PM) [snapback]439082[/snapback]
I'm not turning the tables on anyone, Toby. And I never suggested you've tried to come across as a good guy.
From the times I've spoken to you, I personally think you're a good guy, I like you and I think you are a diehard Morton fan.
I'm sorry that you don't seem to feel the same way about me, but then again, you don't really know me. And I don't really know you.
All I said was that I feel your perception of me is wrong.
Again, I'm not your friend but I've defended you on here in the past.
I appreciate your honesty in saying you don't like me, but we very very occasionally speak on matchdays and always say hello to each other, which strikes me as odd.

But, I do appreciate such honesty rather than innuendoes on here for years and talking behind the back, as some would do I'm sure. If this thread proves anything it's that I for one say what I think. smile.gif

Cheers.

Namely that others should be disallowed that privilege! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-23 17:19:14
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Apr 23 2008, 04:05 PM) [snapback]439087[/snapback]
If they take things too far and are insulting? Perhaps.

Thank God we have the Mods then- oh Holier than Thou! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-23 17:22:17
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Apr 23 2008, 04:45 PM) [snapback]439123[/snapback]
The fees for 5 weeks are a scandal but not untypical of larger firms of insolvency practitioners. if there is a creditor's committee they should be challenging the level of these which set against the size of company are just wholly disproportionate.

Mr Mileson loan will be a 'postponed creditor'. Because of his connections with the club the other creditors will have to be paid first.

The biggest asset is probably Raydale and almost certainly the bank will have a standard security i.e. first charge on that and so they will walk off with whatever it realises.

All in all, the ordinary creditors should not stake their mortgage on getting anything.

WHY are they still in business then?
mortonjag 2008-04-23 17:30:16
QUOTE(simple_ton @ Apr 23 2008, 04:22 PM) [snapback]439097[/snapback]
I remember the tawse from school - you're mistaken, it was seen as a badge of achievement, there was always a bit of kudos attached to being able to "take" the belt, particularly if it was from one of the experts at wielding it!

I did not state that to some the Lochgelly was not a boasting matter ST-I was merely alluding to the fact that we have a generation who have not even SEEN corporal punishment pontificating about its use.

Furthermore, the belt was used to good effect many a time-even if it WAS just on grubby little hands. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-23 17:32:28
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 23 2008, 04:28 PM) [snapback]439103[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDAre you accusing Fing of being knotty?
mortonjag 2008-04-23 17:38:49
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Apr 23 2008, 05:22 PM) [snapback]439140[/snapback]
I've been asked many times on many Morton messageboards to be a mod, and have always refused. Might not next time, MortonJag wink.gif

I suspect that your current behaviour has made 'next time' unlikely darling!

The term 'self policing' has often been used, and for the vast majority of the time our current chaps seem to know their business.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 17:42:10
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Apr 23 2008, 05:31 PM) [snapback]439145[/snapback]
Usual p*sh from MJ I'm afraid. Greacen's birthday was actually on 31st March. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Smiffy-dunce's cap for you today-go and stand in the corner.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 17:43:26
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Apr 23 2008, 05:33 PM) [snapback]439148[/snapback]
To save the SPL embarrassment I would think. sad.gif

I described it as criminal behaviour from the outset.
mortonjag 2008-04-23 19:41:33
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 23 2008, 07:03 PM) [snapback]439185[/snapback]
i think your problem with him is that you just might be.

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mortonjag 2008-04-23 19:51:23
QUOTE(Clydebuilt @ Apr 23 2008, 06:30 PM) [snapback]439165[/snapback]
Well what a surprise, mortonjag twice failing to answer a direct question.

Your reticence would suggest that you're not as "absolutely meticulous in never betraying confidences or revealing private information" as you think.

What are you babbling about clown? I have betrayed no confidences, and have revealed no private information. Had prior consent been required it would have been obtained. Mortonjag does not make mistakes.

QUOTE(nach0king @ Apr 23 2008, 06:55 PM) [snapback]439177[/snapback]
It was rhetorical confidence.

Still in the huff little one? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-23 19:58:04
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Apr 23 2008, 06:13 PM) [snapback]439160[/snapback]
I don't think I've ever insulted you Mortonjag. I hope that makes you happy. smile.gif



I don't really mind being 'insulted' if there's wit and good humour incorporated GG. It's just a little bit hard sometimes to suffer the inflated egos of jealous little nobodies with a paucity of life experience, moderate intelligence, and large chips on their shoulders. sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-23 20:03:03
QUOTE(port-ton @ Apr 23 2008, 07:51 PM) [snapback]439204[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-04-23 20:04:44
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Apr 23 2008, 08:03 PM) [snapback]439211[/snapback]
I think your pretty cool for a doc, doc

....and you're top of my xmas card list Santa! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-23 20:11:05
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Apr 23 2008, 08:05 PM) [snapback]439214[/snapback]
gretna always have been about as welcome as a bombmaking kit being sold as duty free on american airlines, they have been and always have been a complete joke and the SFL and SPL should have a really good look at themselves, myles said to himself oh dear we really aint that good it must be time to go sick. I personally always have hated Gretna but the utter pash has been ripped out of scottish football by these guys and the english playtoy llama owner. i feel sorry for alibi no doubt esspecially in the current business climate but then they must have been getting away with murder for ages, and on that point if they are digging up Raydale they need to watch they dig up Myles.

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I think it's important to differentiate Gretna pre Mileson from the subsequent farce. They did, however, partake of the poisoned chalice, enjoyed their 'day in the sun', and well and truly f***ed Scottish Football in the process-not least ourselves.

For that reason, I don't share the thoughts of Chairman Rae. They are well and truly dead-let the burial commence with no further ado.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 06:07:16
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Apr 23 2008, 10:28 PM) [snapback]439292[/snapback]
mortonjag is speaking in 3rd person why?

Because Mortonjag does those things

QUOTE(xj2006 @ Apr 23 2008, 10:57 PM) [snapback]439305[/snapback]
ok here is the script

group hug on Saturday

everyone up for it?

good smile.gif

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QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 23 2008, 11:15 PM) [snapback]439319[/snapback]
mentaljag sucks the enjoyment out of every thread on here for me.

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QUOTE(Clydebuilt @ Apr 23 2008, 11:39 PM) [snapback]439339[/snapback]
Well if place of employment, career details & mental health issues aren't private info, then I'm glad you're not one of my confidants.

I also see that as per usual, when flustered, you resort to petty name calling and general rudeness.

Lovely man.

Indeed I am a very lovely man, and I did not resort to anything. I described you as a babbling clown because you attempted to distort fact to suit your purpose.

I mentioned a personal friend of mine, giving a brief summary of how her life has been destroyed by mental illness. I alluded to the fact that (infrequently) she does stints in a charity shop when she has the intellectual capacity for a rewarding career. That is an illustration of the ravages of psychological illness. At no time have I divulged personal details, nor indeed would she have been in the slightest concerned if I had-she is NOT a patient of mine, nor did I meet her through my profession!

Some of you (and I include my good friend nach0 in this) are bright little chaps who'd do better to learn from Mortonjag when he's in serious mode. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 06:09:49
QUOTE(Toby @ Apr 23 2008, 10:47 PM) [snapback]439302[/snapback]
Consider it me crawling to you or trying to dig myself out of a hole here Donga, but I don't dislike you at all. I don't see you anywhere near enough for me to dislike you although I do get extremely annoyed by certain things people say, and demanding people be banned from expressing their opinions is extremely high on my agenda.

I've always found there to be a bit of a "hierarchy" amongst the Morton support too
, Scott and Pat Gillan could tell you about the arguments I've had with them over issues like that, although we get on better now.

That said, I think trying to get mortonjag banned is completely out of order and had you been someone who isn't as predominent or is more controversial, amongst the support you would have been shot down in flames. That I won't retract.

However, I had a right good go at Gibbyton last week who's one of my best mates, don't take it as a personal insult.

I'll take this opportunity to wish you all the best for your wedding and the future, but under no circumstances mistake me for a good guy as I do this.

All the best Donga, although I think you are out of order on this issue.


Toby hits the nail on the head! dry.gif


I don't see why I have to be sooked in mind you!
mortonjag 2008-04-24 06:14:37
QUOTE(Alibi @ Apr 23 2008, 09:18 PM) [snapback]439252[/snapback]
I don't fully understand the financial details but it looks to me as if there has been a trading profit of £11,000 since the administrators moved in - so they will claim they have done their job properly. However that doesn't take into account the £50k a week they are stripping out in the form of inflated fees. The SPL money may be paying the wages of players, but the overall effect is that Gretna have lost about £250k more than they would have had the administrators not moved in. It's theft Jim, but not as we know it.

As I said to the reporter from local radio this afternoon, for £50k a week, I would expect Thierry Henry. With enough left over to pay for Brian Wakes as well....

I have a suspicion that Wilson Field, the administrators, and Mileson are in cahoots on this one. They were his specific choice, and the chief exec who wanted a Scottish firm was over-ruled. I smell tuna.

You are all being raped-why do you reject a term that is absolutely precise-innocent victims of criminal pillage by gratuitous b*****ds. Even Tonsilitis appears to have washed his hands of that lot.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 06:27:00 Aitken seems pretty efficient in the penalty department. This surely has to put Stirling in the mood to finish the season with a wee bit of kudos-like six points from six! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 06:34:34 Clyde would then travel to Cappielow Stadium in Greenock for the second leg on Saturday, 3 May.


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mortonjag 2008-04-24 06:36:03
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Apr 24 2008, 02:47 AM) [snapback]439374[/snapback]
Same as last week.

Only change I'd maybe contemplate would be Jenkins in for Millar.

That makes sense-I don't see this as being a day for 'silky flowing football'! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 07:02:32 I believe we will win on Saturday and Clyde will falter. We must be positive.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 07:04:03
QUOTE(C B @ Apr 23 2008, 08:12 PM) [snapback]439219[/snapback]
Don't think i'll ask what the men are like on this forum ever again tongue.gif

Absolute gentlemen in real life Mrs CB-every one of us! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 07:06:01
QUOTE(C B @ Apr 23 2008, 08:13 PM) [snapback]439221[/snapback]
You've only ever been nice to me Mr Jag unsure.gif

I'm always nice to the gentle people Mrs CB-those ambitious little upstarts who want to hurt a poor defenceless old man-that's different! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 07:14:44
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 24 2008, 03:54 AM) [snapback]439378[/snapback]
I think that the good doctor will confirm that many variety of beans have more fibre than peas.

Peas are just starch balls.

I'm led to believe Newt that weight for weight, garden peas actually have more fibre than the beans in tomato sauce so adored by a million housewives every day! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 07:18:31
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 24 2008, 04:00 AM) [snapback]439379[/snapback]
maybe I'm shooting myself in the foot.
in that case, do you know a good doctor ?

what weapon did you have in mind ?

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I decided to fill up last night!

My wee Saab is a delicate soul who demands the highest octane fuel, and we duly rolled up to the Shell 'V-power' pump. I noticed that the last customer had spent £7.23!


Maybe it was for a motorbike-do they need that sort of fuel? blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 07:20:39
QUOTE(NewTon @ Apr 24 2008, 04:59 AM) [snapback]439380[/snapback]
Hillary Clinton today threatened to “obliterate” Iran if it launched a nuclear attack on Israel, her most aggressive rhetoric yet against Tehran as she seeks to cast doubts on whether Barack Obama would be a strong commander-in-chief.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/worl...icle3793047.ece
Can the world survive if this woman becomes President ?

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I'd actually prefer Douglas Rae as president of the USA. At least his heart's in the right place.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 07:25:32 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you. sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 08:30:15
QUOTE(midTONs @ Apr 24 2008, 08:05 AM) [snapback]439397[/snapback]
I actually wondered a while ago how much time actually goes into to moderating this site these days, the Morton forum has non Morton related stuff in it and there is numerous duplicate threads. rolleyes.gif

any way back on topic, I'm going to head down to my maws today for a plate of home made broth, 2nd to none I've ever tasted. wink.gif

Does she make it with haugh?
mortonjag 2008-04-24 08:36:39
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Apr 24 2008, 08:29 AM) [snapback]439401[/snapback]
The very thought of you being sooked anywhere is enough to gie you the dry boak.

No offence 'oul yin, but if you're upset about it then the report button etc etc etc

TonInDublin

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When did I say I was upset about it?

Anyway-on the sookin' ---don't knock it till you've tried it, and I wouldn't want to know about 'report buttons'!

Clyping's for cowards, spoilsports, and weans. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 08:39:58
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Apr 24 2008, 08:36 AM) [snapback]439405[/snapback]
My mother, god rest her, only used beef haugh when she was making beef and barley broth.
For more traditional scotch broth she used flank mutton for the stock.

Despite watching her and helping her as a kid week in and week out, and despite doing exactly what she did when she made it, my own home made soup is still a pale imitation of my mammy's. As is my fish and milk, stovies and everything else I prepare using the exact same ingredients and cooking the exact same way.

Say what you like, you'll never beat or copy your mammy's cooking. Those of you who still have them treat them with the respect they deserve - oh, and get wired into any grub your lucky enough to have them dish up for you. Enjoy the soup Jim !

TonInDublin

Bet she also made rice puddin' with raisins-browned in the oven!
mortonjag 2008-04-24 08:47:14
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 24 2008, 08:11 AM) [snapback]439398[/snapback]
It would appear that the rumour is indeed false. He did manage to come through the night but he is very ill. He had to have a blood transfusion and is to ill to travel to France just now.
Sorry if I have caused any upset by posting this thread.

I don't see why you should have upset anybody-you made a genuine mistake.

It's amusing how we have posters who are so bloody precious about bagatelles, but when it comes to a decent man who's dying of cancer, they see that as an opportunity to expose their immaturity and lack of life experience, by trivialising the issue.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 08:55:01
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Apr 24 2008, 08:53 AM) [snapback]439410[/snapback]
St Cadoc's

Is that the one on Barrhead Road?
mortonjag 2008-04-24 08:56:18
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Apr 24 2008, 08:46 AM) [snapback]439408[/snapback]
This is becoming very tedious, Mortonjag.

I was being serious.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 09:00:55
QUOTE(Alibi @ Apr 24 2008, 08:56 AM) [snapback]439413[/snapback]
That's the tack I am taking, Iain. The number of creditors and the length of time that some of the debt has been outstanding indicates to me without doubt that the company has been trading insolvently for a long time before Mileson's illness (from which he has recovered - this story about his family trying to take control sounds to me like a load of nonsense frankly. He is in hiding for diplomatic reasons). I intend to pursue the directors personally for the debt, and I have asked, and will be asking agin, from what date the company was trading while insolvent. The twice-bounced cheque last November would certainly seem to point to "before November 2007". The other directors are Ron McGregor and his wife - innocent victims out of their depth I suspect, but if they have assets, they're a valid target too.

Mr Mileson was very happy to court the media during 'living the dream'. How is he managing so successfully to escape their attention in a matter which has turned the whole of Scottish Football upside down? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 09:03:18
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Apr 24 2008, 08:57 AM) [snapback]439414[/snapback]
Well out of date sir, moved from there in 1982 ish. Now on Fruin avenue.

I just wondered-I used to pass the time of day with Tommy when he lived in Meadowhill-a quiet and personable man.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 09:14:47 Who is this Strachan person?
mortonjag 2008-04-24 09:18:15
QUOTE(jimmy boag delivers @ Apr 24 2008, 09:11 AM) [snapback]439417[/snapback]
I think the proposal is overkill. Why not a one off match at a neutral venue with clubs splitting the gate receipts? Say the game took place at Love Street or Firhill, there would be a decent 5k plus attendance and a real cup game atmosphere.

Hopefully none of this will matter though tongue.gif

It won't!

Mind you we could always decide it by a penalty shoot out-if it's good enough for the Huns x 2 it should be good enough for us! wacko.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 09:19:58
QUOTE(pgmsc @ Apr 24 2008, 09:14 AM) [snapback]439419[/snapback]
People on here need a boo boy Ryan is the man at the moment does a power of work game in game out some would rather have Dean Keenan says it all

Deano was quite a popular 'boo boy' too!
mortonjag 2008-04-24 09:26:09
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Apr 24 2008, 09:22 AM) [snapback]439424[/snapback]
You had them converted yesterday! Did something happen overnight/ Maybe a wee miracle is due for the unbelievers! rolleyes.gif

laugh.gif

Seriously though-I get much comfort from the sayings of our Lord. The beatitudes are well worth a read.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 09:37:10
QUOTE(Capuan @ Apr 24 2008, 09:30 AM) [snapback]439426[/snapback]
Is that how dougie got mcinally to stay on after the livi game?

The Gospel of James is one of several surviving Infancy Gospels that give an idea of the miracle literature that was created to satisfy the hunger of early Christians.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 09:44:43
QUOTE(midTONs @ Apr 24 2008, 09:42 AM) [snapback]439433[/snapback]
I aint been near a kitchen in 20 yrs (apart from my own) and wont be going near one to prepare breakfasts for a bunch of drunks.

laugh.gif


The converted are the best preachers! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 09:50:09
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Apr 24 2008, 09:43 AM) [snapback]439434[/snapback]
its all a pile of s***e MJ, the Bible that is.

To you it may well be a pile of sh*te Gibby, but sh*te has its uses. The family Bible, for example is a traditional cure for ganglia, and is still sworn upon in many a courthouse.

It's the interpretation that's helpful to me on occasion-not debating about virgin births and stuff like that.

Sh*te is also good for your rhubarb.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 09:51:27
QUOTE(midTONs @ Apr 24 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]439439[/snapback]
FFS I used to like you but you're sounding to much like that 'jakey' se65an. tongue.gif

I might be speaking from experience! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 09:52:20
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Apr 24 2008, 09:49 AM) [snapback]439438[/snapback]
MJ's brother was my History teacher back in my days at the Port High

Joe 90! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 09:57:05
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 24 2008, 09:54 AM) [snapback]439445[/snapback]
i've got about as little time for either of them, but at least the bible is a good read.

laugh.gif

Clearly brings out the charity in your soul my good friend!
mortonjag 2008-04-24 09:58:44
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 24 2008, 09:52 AM) [snapback]439444[/snapback]
i used to like the lansdowne but i blacklisted it a few years ago for utter pish service and because of the baldy arse of a manager.

where's everybody going afterwards? anybody staying up in the smoke?

It's improved greatly since then.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 10:18:01
QUOTE(Edinton @ Apr 24 2008, 10:16 AM) [snapback]439452[/snapback]
tsk, i'm on here for at least 5 minutes a day for at least 3 days a week dry.gif

...and your avatar proves it.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 10:20:23
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 24 2008, 10:17 AM) [snapback]439453[/snapback]
i'm glad to hear that. decent places ruined by shoddy service are ten a penny in this country.

blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 10:26:31
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 24 2008, 10:23 AM) [snapback]439458[/snapback]
Personally I find MJ to be a good read biggrin.gif

I do my best to give spiritual inspiration Weegie-not that I imagine myself to be God or anything like that.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 10:28:54
QUOTE(mccaff @ Apr 24 2008, 10:26 AM) [snapback]439460[/snapback]
18 pages of absolute gash

laugh.gif


You DIDN'T read them did you? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 10:30:43
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 24 2008, 10:28 AM) [snapback]439461[/snapback]
Heaven forbid! biggrin.gif

Indeed-the boys just away out for some bread and fish BTW!
mortonjag 2008-04-24 10:35:10
QUOTE(leyTON @ Apr 24 2008, 10:32 AM) [snapback]439466[/snapback]
it might, depending on whether mine or midtons approximation is right:P

I think there's more enthusiasm among the regular fans who don't get to every away match, but this game lacks the glory hunting element of Killie/Motherwell/ Dundee United type encounters. I'll be astonished and delighted if we take more than 1500.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 10:40:46 How much money would you knock back in favour of a victory for the Mighty Ton and a draw for Clyde on Saturday?

I suppose some will say they can't be bought at any price, but let's be mature and realistic.

I already have my answer but I asked first! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 11:00:57
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 24 2008, 10:44 AM) [snapback]439472[/snapback]
there's no accounting for taste. have you tried the da vinci code?

I was taught morse code in the Boy Scouts.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 11:06:02
QUOTE(foxy @ Apr 24 2008, 10:46 AM) [snapback]439474[/snapback]
Dont you know tomorrow is friday?

Tomorrow NEVER 'is' but I take your point! wink.gif

QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 24 2008, 10:49 AM) [snapback]439475[/snapback]
You get the days all mixed up when you get to MJ's age.

My maw's 80 and she's the same.

Your Mummy has a big prostate and wee baws! ohmy.gif

QUOTE(enigmaton @ Apr 24 2008, 10:58 AM) [snapback]439482[/snapback]
How much drink did you knock back when you were looking at your calendar. laugh.gif

Trouble is I didn't do either!


Now gentlemen-enough of this shilly shallying and ANSWER THE QUESTION! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 11:09:15
QUOTE(stubaws @ Apr 24 2008, 11:07 AM) [snapback]439488[/snapback]
wheres that then? lookin for a place to watch game beforehand that aint far from firhill



7A Lansdowne Crescent
Kelvinbridge
Glasgow
G20 6NQ
T: 0141 334 4653

Email: lansdownebar@maclay.co.uk

SEO
mortonjag 2008-04-24 11:12:51
QUOTE(peski @ Apr 24 2008, 11:09 AM) [snapback]439490[/snapback]
a would get the biggest syring with about a kilo of smack in it and f***in inject it right into the b*****ds neck if that was ma granny he wid get some dunt then a hate brass monkeys man

Birching would be considerably cheaper!
mortonjag 2008-04-24 11:16:22
QUOTE(marxist_ton @ Apr 24 2008, 11:14 AM) [snapback]439493[/snapback]
Robbie Carlyle and Ian McCall have given me money whilst busking.

I could see Corky as a busker-but CARLYLE! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 11:18:44
QUOTE(midTONs @ Apr 24 2008, 10:19 AM) [snapback]439456[/snapback]
rolleyes.gif

Are you suggesting that he's talking:



Scottish Recipes: Mince and Tatties

Mince and tatties is a common dish in Scottish households.

Recipe Ingredients:

1 tablespoon oil.1
1 large onion, finely chopped.
1 lb beef mince.1
2 medium carrots, sliced.
1 tablespoon toasted pinhead oatmeal.
Water to cover.
1 or 2 beef stock cubes.2
Salt and pepper.
Gravy powder.2
1 lb boiled potatoes, peeled.

Serves 4

Preparation Method:

1. Heat the oil in a pan and sauté the onion until it is brown.
2. Add in the mince and cook until well browned.
3. Add the carrots and oatmeal, mix well and pour in enough water to just cover.
4. Crumble in the stock cubes, season and stir.
5. Cover the pan and simmer the mince for about 20 minutes.
6. Once the mince is cooked thicken the mince with about 3 teaspoons of gravy powder or corn starch mixed with a little cold water.
7. Serve the mince with boiled potatoes. sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 11:26:57
QUOTE(Alibi @ Apr 24 2008, 11:18 AM) [snapback]439496[/snapback]
I think any civil action would be against the directors themselves - however if I can get the adminstrator to agree that there has been trading while insolvent, that would no doubt be a good start. Mind you, I have my doubts about the independence of the administrators...

There's also the slight problem that any legal action costs a fortune.

Those two sentences sadly seem to sum up the situation. It's never failed to astonish me that the level of public accountability varies so vastly from one profession to another.

One silly mistake by a doctor can lead to a hugely expensive negligence action, and possibly even loss of his livelihood. It seems that those insolvency people can virtually do as they please provided they are fly enough to avoid the basic pitfalls.

When I first described the behaviour as criminal, I did so having carefully looked at the situation, and nothing has subsequently altered my opinion.

They should be brought to book along with Mileson,and the arch criminal SPL.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 11:30:40
QUOTE(mccaff @ Apr 24 2008, 10:39 AM) [snapback]439468[/snapback]
actually ur wrong there. im headin up with the glory hunters who i went to motherwell with. because its quite close and u can get the train it means u can get a heavy drinkin session out of it an possibly a wee night out in glasgow.



QUOTE(leyTON @ Apr 24 2008, 10:40 AM) [snapback]439469[/snapback]
well it is probably the closest team to us arent they?
add in the easy access and the guarenteed good night out afterwards
the fact that it is (hopefully!) the last game of the season and a decider
and the kids go free and it should be close to full behind the goal
i am in the same boat as largston lot of non morton fans going
theres usually 2 or 3 of us at the game and theres 10 this week

I just hope you're correct. I hope the non Morton fans remember who they're not supporting too! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 11:33:39
QUOTE(Edinton @ Apr 24 2008, 10:45 AM) [snapback]439473[/snapback]
At least one good thing has come out of this debacle: no more 'Living the Dream' documentaries

Somebody in a pony tail, cowboy boots, a flash Jaguar and cloud of smoke has just been seen pulling up outside Firs Park where JM is rolling the grass!
mortonjag 2008-04-24 11:35:34
QUOTE(stubaws @ Apr 24 2008, 11:10 AM) [snapback]439491[/snapback]
blink.gif address would've been fine but cheers!!! wink.gif right next to underground station then?

You were too quick!
mortonjag 2008-04-24 11:36:11
QUOTE(stubaws @ Apr 24 2008, 11:10 AM) [snapback]439491[/snapback]
blink.gif address would've been fine but cheers!!! wink.gif right next to underground station then?

Across the road!
mortonjag 2008-04-24 11:44:50
QUOTE(rex manning @ Apr 24 2008, 11:25 AM) [snapback]439500[/snapback]
His best position is in defence. He looked a little ring rusty at the weekend but I think I just prefer him to McGregor in the team.

How you can claim he will be playing as a midfielder in the SPL Mr Jag is beyond me.

laugh.gif

Good gracious-he's been used as a bloody dogsbody ever since he arrived because JM had fixed ideas.

The boy is only 24-was signed as an attacking midfielder, and is even listed as a midfielder in the squad profile. He's FAR stronger at his age than, for example, the one footed Craig McPherson was at the same stage. If it had not been for unfortunate injury I believe he would have 'broken through' this season. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 11:48:22
QUOTE(midTONs @ Apr 24 2008, 11:20 AM) [snapback]439497[/snapback]
I have paid out over 3k for therapy, I think it was money well spend and have no regrets as I no longer feel the need to wear a wig.

Comment from alcoholic judge on taking early retirement.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 12:00:15
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 24 2008, 11:59 AM) [snapback]439515[/snapback]
Not into painting by numbers mate tongue.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 12:02:02
QUOTE(stubaws @ Apr 24 2008, 11:56 AM) [snapback]439512[/snapback]
good man, have a pint waiting for me and my mates then tongue.gif

unsure.gif


'Fraid I'll be driving to the game Stubaws-but enjoy! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 12:04:18
QUOTE(rex manning @ Apr 24 2008, 11:58 AM) [snapback]439514[/snapback]
When he arrived he was played in the centre of midfield and was absolute gash. He was then played at left back and did very well and was unfairly, in my opinion ,dropped as soon as McGregor was back fit. He plays on the left hand side centre back extremely well for us. Why move him?

I WOULDN'T move him-Pantaloons and Huffy are doing OK-that doesn't alter the fact that Alex is a natural midfielder.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 12:19:18 When I was four years old my tonsils were removed in the Duncan McPherson Memorial Hospital, as the childrens' ENT ward in Gateside was full. Because of that I didn't get the customary ice crean and jelly after the operation, so my Mum bought me some when we got home to the Port.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 12:22:00 I think the building in its unique position perched out on the quay is very striking. In no way should it be allowed to fall into disrepair like much of Inverclyde's heritage.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 12:24:37 wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 12:48:52
QUOTE(pgmsc @ Apr 24 2008, 12:32 PM) [snapback]439540[/snapback]
Alex's preferred position is central defence

TY Alex.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 12:51:55
QUOTE(Bryan @ Apr 24 2008, 12:38 PM) [snapback]439542[/snapback]

Mileson's son Craig resigned as a director on 26 March this year, but his father remains a director. Mileson senior's withdrawal of financial support came after a sustained period of laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif illness.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 12:54:16
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Apr 24 2008, 12:52 PM) [snapback]439548[/snapback]
All believe in Boozie!! All!! For soon the streets will run red with the blood of the non-believers!

Yup.

Can you tell me which streets so I can stay clear please?

I can't stand the sight of blood.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 13:34:45
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 24 2008, 01:22 PM) [snapback]439561[/snapback]
Can oblige. Any suggestions?

Well I'll start it

When the trumpet of the Lord shall sound and....
mortonjag 2008-04-24 13:36:30
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 24 2008, 01:35 PM) [snapback]439573[/snapback]
all the diciples gather round....

the mighty irons grind....
mortonjag 2008-04-24 13:38:20
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 24 2008, 01:34 PM) [snapback]439571[/snapback]
Bet that tastes lovely tongue.gif

I bet Paddy only drinks HP sauce .
mortonjag 2008-04-24 13:39:43
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 24 2008, 01:37 PM) [snapback]439576[/snapback]
along with collins nashers at the thought of...

the golden cash can...
mortonjag 2008-04-24 13:42:56
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Apr 24 2008, 01:28 PM) [snapback]439566[/snapback]
Honestly? no more than a grand. Come to think about it, if someone could they would probably buy me off with 500 quid.
Whatever you say, it is still only a game of football. We can still go and beat Alloa/Brechin/Airdire/Raith to stay in this league.

An honest man-roll up, roll up-every man has his price-any advance on five hundred quid-what's that I hear from the little ginger chap on the stool...... four Euro and a semi detached tent- a fine offer sir -waiting folks...
mortonjag 2008-04-24 13:44:26
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 24 2008, 01:41 PM) [snapback]439579[/snapback]
which had gone missing from........

Feart Matilda's cupboard..
mortonjag 2008-04-24 13:46:02
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Apr 24 2008, 01:24 PM) [snapback]439563[/snapback]
I am the official leader of all British Gingers. All bow before me.
I once shared a few drinks with Graeme Souness in Lisbon, when he was Benfica manager, and I was over working.

Souness always was a lazy c*nt!
mortonjag 2008-04-24 13:50:54
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 24 2008, 01:20 PM) [snapback]439558[/snapback]
Anytime jaggy is proved quite wrong I like to laugh...it is - after all - the best medicine smile.gif

Jaggy as you describe Mortonjag is NEVER wrong. Alex knows fine well he's a midfielder and is poor at heading a ball. The boy's not exactly daft-in a squad bursting at the seams with f*cking midfielders and crying out for defenders-OF COURSE it's his 'preferred' position! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 13:56:25
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Apr 24 2008, 01:26 PM) [snapback]439565[/snapback]
I've wondered for a while now how "ill" Mileson was, and whether the decision to withdraw from funding Greetina was His decision, his son's decision or the family's....... anyone shed any light?

He was supposed to have been suffering from a 'brain infection'-that in addition to his celebrated ME, one kidney, etc., etc., etc.

'Brain infections' are extremely uncommon in middle aged men, and normally respond fairly rapidly to treatment. Rarely they have fatal consequences, though I have a sneaky feeling that in Mr Mileson's case a late onset complication may be acute amnesia. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 13:58:42
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Apr 24 2008, 01:55 PM) [snapback]439590[/snapback]
I disagree.

The most sensible reply would be the old 'I don't mind where play as long as I'm in the starting eleven / I'll play wherever my manager asks me' etc. You would only commit yourself to a position if you actually did prefer to play there.

unsure.gif

I think you meant that's what you would do!

As I said-Alex is not daft.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 13:59:53
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Apr 24 2008, 01:55 PM) [snapback]439589[/snapback]
hmmm, nearly two days since this appeared and still mortonjag hasn't risen from the depths to take the bait....... maybe he's no' well.......?? blink.gif

I see you now have two hooks dangling!
mortonjag 2008-04-24 14:01:21
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 24 2008, 01:55 PM) [snapback]439588[/snapback]
This caused massive consternation among.....

the sugar plump fairies, who...
mortonjag 2008-04-24 14:03:23
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 24 2008, 01:57 PM) [snapback]439592[/snapback]
Would take a good few grand to tempt me mate. Prob around 10k or so. Enough to pay off my loans, credit card, and have a few pennies left for a family holiday.

Good gracious folks that's more than generous from wee G-it'll take a big chap to better that one-where are you Sir..
mortonjag 2008-04-24 14:04:48
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Apr 24 2008, 02:02 PM) [snapback]439596[/snapback]
I think you mean you think Alex's a midfielder, poor at heading and that he's only saying he prefers to play in defence to stay in the team.

I know!
mortonjag 2008-04-24 14:06:44
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Apr 24 2008, 02:04 PM) [snapback]439599[/snapback]
oh, THIS one's had fatal consequences all right - Gretna's deid!! tongue.gif

Apparently not-it appears to be moribund in perpetuity-or at least until the SPL and Administrator finally go giggling all the way to the bank.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 14:11:18
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Apr 24 2008, 02:09 PM) [snapback]439602[/snapback]
What is it you know?

What do you think-I DID leave a pink clue!
mortonjag 2008-04-24 14:24:38
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 24 2008, 02:20 PM) [snapback]439605[/snapback]
why bother? the man's a pompous know-it-all.

Preferable to being a pompous know f*ck all. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 14:27:20
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Apr 24 2008, 02:24 PM) [snapback]439608[/snapback]
I'd rather they were moribund in perpetuity than moribund in Division One.......

Once the Administrator and SPL have finished having their wicked way at the creditors' expense, I expect them to shrivel up and die.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 14:28:28
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 24 2008, 02:25 PM) [snapback]439610[/snapback]
hilarious.

Glad to have pleased you.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 14:30:28
QUOTE(centralTON @ Apr 24 2008, 02:29 PM) [snapback]439614[/snapback]
His chest? tongue.gif

casket?
mortonjag 2008-04-24 14:35:02
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Apr 24 2008, 02:31 PM) [snapback]439617[/snapback]
Gretna, or the SelfProtectionLeague? Would it be too much too hope for both??

If only all three!
mortonjag 2008-04-24 14:46:26
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Apr 24 2008, 02:43 PM) [snapback]439620[/snapback]
we ain't that lucky....... after World War Three there will only be two forms of life remaining on the Earth: insects, and administrators - and you'll have to look pretty closely to see which is which.......

You talk from experience I sense! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 16:22:01
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 24 2008, 03:14 PM) [snapback]439628[/snapback]
stir the caramel in Fortress Matilda. They thought that....

fud G Wudgee had been in charge, but...
mortonjag 2008-04-24 16:25:28
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Apr 24 2008, 02:48 PM) [snapback]439622[/snapback]
hmmm- hands or mouth?? Actually, PLEASE don't answer - I'm sorry I arsked.......

...he gets his rocks off listening to the neighbours shagging-haven't you been reading? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 16:27:08
QUOTE(stuart @ Apr 24 2008, 12:14 AM) [snapback]439356[/snapback]
McLaren in some sort of coaching capacity? Where he should be setting a good example? And displaying leadership qualities?

I couldn't think of anyone worse over the past few seasons to fill a role like this.

JM
mortonjag 2008-04-24 16:29:15
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Apr 24 2008, 02:54 PM) [snapback]439624[/snapback]
only as a 'Ton fan - Sh*ggie Sc*tt mad.gif was one of the former, and drove us into the hands of the latter.......

I'm disappointed-I was expecting some story about your wife and 5 llamas having been sold to pay the gas bill.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 16:31:16
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Apr 24 2008, 02:57 PM) [snapback]439625[/snapback]
I don't have two hooks - I had a wee touch o' Parkinson's when I hit "send"....... (Parkinson didn't mind a bit, by the way!!)

FFS ANOTHER bloody Shoogly! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 16:33:27
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Apr 24 2008, 04:14 PM) [snapback]439642[/snapback]
nah...just a boaby suck from him...no present

unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 17:23:31
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 24 2008, 04:46 PM) [snapback]439656[/snapback]
Crawford then poked his head out from...

a burst sugar bag, screaming....
mortonjag 2008-04-24 17:27:12
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Apr 24 2008, 04:43 PM) [snapback]439655[/snapback]
aye, that's me - a wee Rae o' sunshine.......

Jesus wants me for a sunbeam!
mortonjag 2008-04-24 17:29:07
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Apr 24 2008, 04:47 PM) [snapback]439657[/snapback]
shame llamas don't have humps - missin' out on using a very obvious joke because of it

And it'll take more than his wife and his llamas for Brooksie boy to pay off Gretna's bills.......

...a lot of folk are going to have to like it or hump it.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 17:29:46
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 24 2008, 04:48 PM) [snapback]439658[/snapback]
laugh.gif

unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 17:31:41
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Apr 24 2008, 04:53 PM) [snapback]439660[/snapback]
durrrty dog right enough then. Draw the line at that meself (apart from happily listening to Street Mirren getting humped!) laugh.gif

Is St Mirren still at it-I thought he died of AIDS years ago.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 17:35:03
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Apr 23 2008, 06:52 PM) [snapback]439176[/snapback]
He's that Jap that plays for Celtic, isn't he?

Is that not Minnehaha?

Kudos is the big Romanian goalie at Stranraer.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 17:36:54
QUOTE(Section C @ Apr 24 2008, 05:05 PM) [snapback]439662[/snapback]
I'm a new poster but have watched this site for a long time. I had lunch with two Thistle directors a few weeks ago and was impressed by their attitude and approach to things at Firhill. A real focus on getting bums on seats and establishing a community club. I take my 2 kids to Morton most weeks and have become a bit hacked off by the lack of interest in promoting the club to youngsters and families. As for the lack of youth playing structure.....even worse.

Good luck to PTFC, they have an even harder time competing with the OF than we do. I am very appreciative of the Raes and all they've done for the Ton but I can't help but feel that its time for a fresh approach behind the scenes from a commercial point of view. We need to grow our fan base and and kids are the only real source.

I couldn't have put is more discreetly in 1000 years! Bravo! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 17:43:07 I won't be shedding any tears if Kevin moves to pastures new. We need to introduce some proper wing play if we're going to increase our options, and at the moment we don't have a single player who can consistently put over a decent cross.

Kevin's value to me was always that he made up for his deficiencies going forward by his superb work rate and 'mopping up', but we've already beefed up our midfield with McGuffie and Jenkins, and hopefully Pantaloons will stay. Probably best for his career if he moves elsewhere now.

mortonjag 2008-04-24 17:44:35
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 24 2008, 05:42 PM) [snapback]439684[/snapback]
I don't think flight_ton knows it is a lassie he made the comment to, hence I found it amusing.

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mortonjag 2008-04-24 17:46:51
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 24 2008, 05:29 PM) [snapback]439671[/snapback]
it wisnae me, it was the oompaloompas that made me....

that's why I don't look like ma faither-anyway...
mortonjag 2008-04-24 17:50:05
QUOTE(Edinton @ Apr 24 2008, 05:32 PM) [snapback]439676[/snapback]
Maybe we should have an end of season/playoffs cyber-swally, everyone can meet up and clear the air in person?

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Mortonjag would find some excuse to bottle out at the last minute! s***ebag.

QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 24 2008, 05:39 PM) [snapback]439683[/snapback]
Damn, I have been knocked off then? sad.gif

You're still top of the local list Weegie! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 18:00:35
QUOTE(johnston @ Apr 24 2008, 05:43 PM) [snapback]439686[/snapback]
Anyways, the mince wiz great. I got that Fiver and aunt Jean's doin' fine.
In AA speak, Midtons is 'recovering'. One day at a time 'n' all that.

In my experience there's nothing worse than a recovering minceoholic-it's 'one day at a time-stay away from butchers' shops and school dinner halls-close your eyes when nancy boys m*nce up to you, and if anybody mentions doughballs just think hard about The Midden'.

All day long they preach to you about their Higher Powers and sponsors and big books and things, and when you're not looking they're popping that bloody minced Quorn, and feeling all self righteous!

Give me a recovering alky any day.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 18:03:50
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Apr 24 2008, 05:49 PM) [snapback]439692[/snapback]
.......and at least it looks like that cameltoe Rowan Alexander will have to like it or hump it, he's no' gettin his £800,000.......

The minute Rowan and Pony Tail had their 'lovers' tiff' Gretna began to fall apart.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 18:04:47
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Apr 24 2008, 05:51 PM) [snapback]439694[/snapback]
take him, Jesus, ffs take him.......

laugh.gif You are very rude.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 18:06:07
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 24 2008, 05:46 PM) [snapback]439689[/snapback]
It's clear you don't like him from this post simply because you never got a nickname for him wink.gif

I was being polite about the 'blinkered greyhound'.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 18:14:02
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Apr 24 2008, 06:11 PM) [snapback]439705[/snapback]
And no doubt a few others wink.gif

McInally's midfield midgets are about to be dispersed and replaced by Irons' impenetrable icemen!
mortonjag 2008-04-24 18:15:50
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Apr 24 2008, 06:01 PM) [snapback]439699[/snapback]
How about a nice hotel?

A hostel-aye that would suit the cooncil fine.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 18:21:35 Jenkins on the bench again?
mortonjag 2008-04-24 18:49:17 I know that Mileson bloke's got you watching the pennies, but you could always get a black hack! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 18:51:49
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Apr 24 2008, 06:48 PM) [snapback]439710[/snapback]
Why change a 'winning' team?

I agree in principle, but if I were to make a single change from last week I'd have Jenkins on from the start if he's fully fit, as I don't believe it's going to be a day for Piehutt's silky flowing football!
mortonjag 2008-04-24 19:04:37
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Apr 24 2008, 03:42 PM) [snapback]439635[/snapback]
The Willowman will still be on a train

Oh, wait a minute, i thought you said flashers tongue.gif

Strip the willow is a country or barn dance. It has variations depending upon whether it is being performed as a movement in a larger dance or a complete dance in itself. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-24 19:12:06
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Apr 24 2008, 07:06 PM) [snapback]439722[/snapback]
There has to be a seperation between Morton and Clyde so surely those are the results that matter most in that instance? huh.gif

I think that's OK in theory but there's something about it makes me uncomfortable-say for example there had been a daft situation like the Forfar one where the SFL had refused to postpone a match when half the squad was unwell, and the other side had beaten them by one goal and went through on that basis!

I guess it's got to be a play off over two games.
mortonjag 2008-04-24 21:54:30
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 24 2008, 09:49 PM) [snapback]439780[/snapback]
"Specialists" wanted me to go into primary school a year early but my parents refused it.

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mortonjag 2008-04-25 06:23:20
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Apr 24 2008, 09:57 PM) [snapback]439792[/snapback]
Laydee

Whatever smile.gif

Lord and Lady Bobby Sucher!
mortonjag 2008-04-25 06:32:07
QUOTE(gmsc-doco-1874 @ Apr 25 2008, 12:04 AM) [snapback]439845[/snapback]
in a paper during the week
i read that the stand were we have been normally situated during the last few games
is that it holds just over the 2000 mark

lost of people will go by train, others by car & bus also
can see us bringing a crowd of around 2500-3000 on saturday

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I just don't understand where all this optimism's coming from-our home crowds recently haven't even been reaching 2500 when three hundred or more away supporters have turned up, and as our Chairman has pointed out correctedly the home support has been poorish.

I'll be absolutely thrilled if we take along 3000-I'm totally convinced we have this result in the bag- but where the f*ck are they coming from, who are they, and why the sudden interest? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 06:34:01
QUOTE(Toby @ Apr 25 2008, 06:25 AM) [snapback]439872[/snapback]
I'm not drinking.

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Good chap-I'll be driving so none for me!
mortonjag 2008-04-25 06:44:07
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Apr 25 2008, 06:14 AM) [snapback]439870[/snapback]
guaranteed chris plays the best game ever for us come saturday its made forhim ad he will more than likely score...............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................awaiting the snipers on that one but trust me wink.gif wink.gif wink.gif wink.gif leaving on a eal high

Fine-as suggested then, let the muckers soften the Jags up for an hour of nae nonsense hard stuff scoring seven in the process including a sizzling forty foot volley from Finlayson, a bicycle kick by Big Stu, and four successful penalties from LEAFY.

After that Midge can have his going away hat trick playing the purest silkiest and most flowing football we've ever seen since we flattered to deceive for 90 minutes this time last year at Kirkcaldy! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 06:49:29
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Apr 24 2008, 10:54 PM) [snapback]439814[/snapback]
a months wage.....£1200....pay off my holiday to egypt

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Maybe you should have taken the free Mileson course in pyramid selling of llama burgers! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 06:51:32
QUOTE(C B @ Apr 24 2008, 10:26 PM) [snapback]439802[/snapback]
Poor defenceless old man with a Krav Maga trained Monkey for a bodyguard !

Fingz the hard man-Munx is actually a bit of a poosy like his dad!

QUOTE(loyal lass @ Apr 24 2008, 11:26 PM) [snapback]439827[/snapback]
Oh My God! Whit a bunch of sapsy willies. Listen to yourselves rolleyes.gif

They sound a bit of a let down LL.
mortonjag 2008-04-25 06:56:36
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Apr 24 2008, 11:28 PM) [snapback]439829[/snapback]
I've eaten a weetabix covered in butter!

....before swimming to Kilcreggan in the nude and November.


Mind you you'd have been healthier on all bran and olive spread.
mortonjag 2008-04-25 06:58:56
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 25 2008, 12:09 AM) [snapback]439849[/snapback]
Nae poll!

Nae Poll is a brunette.
mortonjag 2008-04-25 07:07:23 Ratarse-I'm gobsmacked-in one week you manage to become a father and the son of a gentleman.

You have gone up 119.897% in my opinion.

Now about thae in laws-watch them VERY carefully-my daughter could well have become a Ton lass until she met that slanty eyed forked tongued little snake lovely man Vinny who now has her hanging on Strachans every keech! mad.gif

Hope the wee DJ grows up into a big strong independent minded boy! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 07:12:15

Alex Salmond faced fresh attacks over his handling of Donald Trump's £1bn golf resort plans yesterday, with Labour accusing him of bowing down to wealthy investors.

Labour claimed that Mr Salmond acted at the behest of the billionaire during the controversial handling of the application, MSPs heard.

Labour MSP Duncan McNeil told parliament: "Cynics might say: Trump said jump, the First Minister of Scotland said how high?'."

The debate followed a report by a Holyrood committee, chaired by Mr McNeil, which branded Mr Salmond's involvement in the affair "cavalier".
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A public inquiry has been set up into the application to develop Menie Estate, Aberdeenshire, after the plans were called in by Scottish ministers.

SNP MSP Alex Neil said the committee report was "blown up nonsense" and a "Unionist plot" to undermine the SNP administration.

He claimed that members of the public regarded the report and debate as "spurious" and added: "The Unionist majority in this committee is what needs to be called into question. These are the people that put an inquiry into child poverty in Scotland way behind this spurious inquiry into this affair."

For the Tories, Mary Scanlon said if it was Labour, Liberal or the Conservatives who were allegedly indulging, manipulating and interfering the planning process, the SNP would be first in the queue for at the very least a committee inquiry and a report to parliament.

Meanwhile, Martin Ford, who lost his chairmanship of the infrastructure services committee of Aberdeenshire Council after using his casting vote on November 29 to reject the plan, has lost another round of the battle against the proposal.

On December 12 the council agreed to support the application, and with a public local inquiry now planned for June officials suggested that for clarification the council should reaffirm its position as agreed on that date.

Mr Ford moved an amendment that it should reaffirm its decision of November 29. His motion was defeated by 56 votes to five.




Dumb c*nt McNeill finally hears about the Trump affair! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 07:26:46 And tomorrow we're staying up BECAUSE of the manager. Davie Irons confirmed as guest on 'Beyond the SPL' that his remit was to save Morton from relegation, and if ever a nag heading for the knacker's yard has been transformed into the 'form horse' it's happened at Cappielow in the last couple of months. At first I was apprehensive-the DI/DC combo is inexperienced, and the results weren't coming but we've acquitted ourselves increasingly well against Queens, Dundee, St Johnstone, and Dunfermline, and belief is high. Add to that the fact that Thistle have little to play for and Corky will have an eye on next season-indeed the Thistle directors must SURELY prefer Ton crowds to that pathetic caravan of gypsies from -what's it called?

So it's in the bag folks, and Alan Moore has shown he intends to finish with a flourish too!

This season we're staying up BECAUSE of our manager.


WELL DONE DAVIE IRONS!


Edit: I just checked the on line odds and William Hill currently have us as favourites! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 07:28:34
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 25 2008, 07:22 AM) [snapback]439883[/snapback]
If they are so against the Trump application why don't they oppose it in Parliament ?

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Another day-another attack on politicians Spurtle-you missed that bit! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 08:07:13
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 25 2008, 07:40 AM) [snapback]439887[/snapback]
It's alright, you can attack that w*nker McNeil to you're hearts content ! laugh.gif

He has a knob? unsure.gif

Oh I see what you mean! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 08:09:40
QUOTE(midTONs @ Apr 25 2008, 08:06 AM) [snapback]439890[/snapback]
I should have known not to expect an apology from one of today's youth, I would have had you birched just for being wrong.

I'd birch them all just for arguing in the first place! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 08:38:21
QUOTE(midTONs @ Apr 25 2008, 08:14 AM) [snapback]439893[/snapback]
I know it's never going to be accurate but I tend to gauge our away support on the level of interested we have on our buses and it's normally not far off the mark.
We are taking 4 buses to Firhill which is 4 times our normal numbers, I think there is a possibility the Spinny is taking 3 buses which is 3 times their normal numbers, the MSC have an extra bus and the Norseman have reinstated their bus and I'm not sure about the rest, giving this game is at Firhill and the last game of the season a lot of our fans opt to go by train and make a day of it up the city, giving the importance of this game I think we will have around 2500 at Firhill but won't be surprised if there is considerably more.

Just my opinion

An informed opinion and very interesting indeed, which leads me to ask this question. If the potential support is so near the surface that we can drag-say-three thousand to Firhill for a do or die relegation battle-WHAT could we be pulling into Cappielow in the First Division if we were challenging for promotion and playing attractive attacking football.

I'm not going to be too hard on the Chairman the day before this historic lifeline is given to him, but he must now OPEN HIS EYES to reality, and if he hasn't got what is required, please be honest, and encourage some inward investment. Greenock Morton should ALWAYS have been upsides the Kilmarnocks, Falkirks, St. Johnstones, and Motherwells of Scottish football.
mortonjag 2008-04-25 08:39:27
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Apr 25 2008, 08:28 AM) [snapback]439894[/snapback]
No you wouldn't! unsure.gif

Bend over!


WALLOP-WALLOP- WALLOP.

That'll learn you-or next time it'll be SIX. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 08:40:39
QUOTE(midTONs @ Apr 25 2008, 08:03 AM) [snapback]439888[/snapback]
I don't drink. wink.gif

Dehydration will soon set in!
mortonjag 2008-04-25 08:52:50 Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment? Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they? Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature? And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith? Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?

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mortonjag 2008-04-25 08:54:46
QUOTE(midTONs @ Apr 25 2008, 08:47 AM) [snapback]439900[/snapback]
Congrats to yourself and the missus Rasta, I hope the wee lads Grandpa has taken a course on how to put on these new disposable nappies.

They're actually called incontinence pads Mr midTONs.
mortonjag 2008-04-25 09:19:20
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Apr 25 2008, 09:09 AM) [snapback]439912[/snapback]
I fully agree with the sentiment but you just should not include Kilmarnock in your group as they have always been a bigger club than us with a huge catchment. Kilmarnock itself is no bigger than Greenock but it is surrounded by dozens of wee and not so wee (Irvine?) towns so that their potential catchment is around 250-300,000 compared to Inverclyde's 100,000. They've been league champions. They've won far more than us and been far more consistently in the top league. Substitute Caley Thistle in your list and thats a better and more valid comparison.

As for Dougie and investment, yes it is required in all sorts of ways but prioritising them should see a Hamilton type youth structure at the top of the list. The lack of investment though is not just down to Dougie as the real culprits are the board who would not move with the times in the seventies and particularly in the 80's when we had a team to keep us in the SPL. Dougie has put more than most (or even anyone?) into the club in his time and that's undeniable. The only argument is whether it has gone into the right areas!

I'm afraid we're just going to have to disagree on the Kilmarnock issue. Not only does Ayrshire still have a disproportionate loyalty to Junior football, but Ayr United compete for crowds, and have themselves been relatively big in the past.

I believe you possibly underestimate the pulling power from the Cowal peninsula which has no football club to talk of, and we also draw from well into Ayrshire in all directions,and VERY heavily from parts of Renfrewshire.

I've worked in Kilmarnock and discussed this very topic with one of the local GP's who attends at Rugby Park, and he (grudgingly) accepts that we are potentially a bigger club.

Anyhow-there's only one way to resolve the dispute! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 09:24:47
QUOTE(Yoda @ Apr 25 2008, 09:08 AM) [snapback]439910[/snapback]
I am getting worried about you - amnesia, anorexia, naturalism and a short arse with suicidal tendancies? Is there something you're not telling us Doctor Jag?




Go back to curing ganglians with it laugh.gif



Many many secrets will accompany Mortonjag to his grave! wink.gif


QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Apr 25 2008, 09:08 AM) [snapback]439911[/snapback]
You've got me MJ. I'm sitting in front of this computer until a bacon and egg sarnie appears and a steaming hot mug of tea. I was about to do it myself but there's no need now! wink.gif


'Faith without works is dead' I'm afraid. Ask Paul. wink.gif


QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 25 2008, 09:13 AM) [snapback]439915[/snapback]
Go forth and multiply wink.gif

...and instead he came fifth and she had gone!
mortonjag 2008-04-25 09:41:45
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 25 2008, 09:26 AM) [snapback]439921[/snapback]
Ethical in what way? unsure.gif

Do you mean environmentally? What about the detergents used to wash them? Ha ha.

PS - Many heart felt congratulations to the proud parents and grandparents.


Very true totie toes-that debate rages on


Whether 'tis nobler on behind to suffer
The stings and furrows of outdated cotton,
Or to take
Huggies against a sea of dribbles,
And by disposing end them?
mortonjag 2008-04-25 09:44:28
QUOTE(rex manning @ Apr 25 2008, 09:22 AM) [snapback]439919[/snapback]
I'd still play him. Best player this year, (hopefully) last game for the club, play him.

If you want Jenkins in then drop McGuffie. Although i think in the last few weeks he's found his feet.


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mortonjag 2008-04-25 09:46:58
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Apr 25 2008, 09:44 AM) [snapback]439925[/snapback]
This thread read like an old script from Frasier rolleyes.gif

Much closer to the mark than you think perhaps! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 09:49:11 I'll tell you who's NOT king of the ex-gingers-Starchy McPherson.

How that eejit still gets to head up an outside broadcasting show beggars belief.


Bring back Arfur.
mortonjag 2008-04-25 09:53:44
QUOTE(rex manning @ Apr 25 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]439932[/snapback]
That monkey from the Jungle book.

He's not a REAL monkey-so he doesn't really count!
mortonjag 2008-04-25 09:54:38
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Apr 25 2008, 09:52 AM) [snapback]439933[/snapback]
Aye there it is....the get oot clause! I want ma bacon sarnie and I'm naw leavin' tae I get it! laugh.gif

Sorry mate-that's the Bible for you!
mortonjag 2008-04-25 09:55:59
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Apr 25 2008, 09:49 AM) [snapback]439931[/snapback]
You surprise me gentlemen! Are you telling me I've been given a bum steer?

http://www.ecover.com/gb/en/

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If God had meant babies to wear nappies they'd be born with one on.
mortonjag 2008-04-25 10:07:31
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Apr 25 2008, 10:00 AM) [snapback]439938[/snapback]
Not quite Piaget smile.gif

Talking of which I've been experimenting with monkeys and rows of Millions-the paper won't be out till the summer but there's some really interesting stuff!
mortonjag 2008-04-25 10:09:31
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Apr 25 2008, 10:02 AM) [snapback]439940[/snapback]
Here's one of young Puggsy from a few years ago. I think you'll agree he'll take some beating!

[attachment=3952:hairbaby..._468x526.jpg]

He certainly will if I get hold of the cheeky wee brat! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 10:11:34
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Apr 25 2008, 10:08 AM) [snapback]439948[/snapback]
Oooops unsure.gif

The larger bus companies will train up suitable applicants too!
mortonjag 2008-04-25 10:12:40
QUOTE(princessTON @ Apr 25 2008, 10:11 AM) [snapback]439953[/snapback]
agreed! biggrin.gif

Steven Aitken has to be a good contender!
mortonjag 2008-04-25 10:17:46
Mortonjag is right behind you!




but don't let that distract you lads-stay focussed!
mortonjag 2008-04-25 10:19:41
QUOTE(princessTON @ Apr 25 2008, 10:13 AM) [snapback]439958[/snapback]
aye but hes an ugly ginger tongue.gif

There is ANOTHER sort? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 10:21:05
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Apr 25 2008, 10:17 AM) [snapback]439963[/snapback]
Congratulations.

My wee boys name is also Dylan. Be prepared for everyone asking you whether or not he's named after Bob Dylan.

Sean Dillon?
mortonjag 2008-04-25 10:24:29
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 25 2008, 10:18 AM) [snapback]439965[/snapback]
Thats a lot of responsibility to place on any monkey! I mean is it up to it? I for one would take no pleasure to hear of your demise.

I have supreme faith in my little simian friend-he has seen me through all my piles and dribulations, and will dispose of my effects in a seemly fashion.
mortonjag 2008-04-25 10:26:49
QUOTE(princessTON @ Apr 25 2008, 10:25 AM) [snapback]439972[/snapback]
jason has dashing good looks! ohmy.gif dont diss jason! steven aitken is ugly as sin!

Mortonjag's hair was auburn when he was in his prime-does that count?
mortonjag 2008-04-25 10:28:54
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Apr 25 2008, 10:27 AM) [snapback]439978[/snapback]
Aye all you have to do is get a target tattooed on your fizzog! laugh.gif

Is it THAT bad? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 10:31:42
QUOTE(princessTON @ Apr 25 2008, 10:29 AM) [snapback]439982[/snapback]
no because jason is a nice looking ginger tongue.gif

No you misunderstand-Mortonjag was always an ugly bugger-does auburn count as ginger?

Let's face it, ginger IS an auburn colour unlike that disgusting carroty shade so often inaccurately described as the former!
mortonjag 2008-04-25 10:43:04
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Apr 25 2008, 10:29 AM) [snapback]439983[/snapback]
Yeah I think so. That's usually the follow up question to is he named after Bob Dylan - Dylan Thomas then?

Or after the original Dylan Ail Don of Welsh mythology after whom the poet was named?

mortonjag 2008-04-25 10:46:05
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 25 2008, 10:32 AM) [snapback]439985[/snapback]
You get beaten up enough on this site dont give everybody another stick to club you with! laugh.gif tongue.gif

Ach-the more the merrier!

QUOTE(princessTON @ Apr 25 2008, 10:32 AM) [snapback]439986[/snapback]
well yeah i suppose it does biggrin.gif

I prefer to describe Aitken and Walker type heads as 'carrot tops'!
mortonjag 2008-04-25 10:49:41
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 25 2008, 10:36 AM) [snapback]439988[/snapback]
I have supreme faith in my little simian friend-he has seen me through all my piles and dribulations, and will dispose of my effects in a seemly fashion.
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Well thats one clever little monkey then!

He smiled over from the Financial Times when I told him.
mortonjag 2008-04-25 10:55:57
QUOTE(nach0king @ Apr 25 2008, 10:24 AM) [snapback]439971[/snapback]
Have you seen this list btw? I assume you have:

http://www.news-and-star.co.uk/1.94291

Crime Stoppers Scotland £450.00, which I'd suggest doesn't deserve payment!
mortonjag 2008-04-25 10:58:15
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Apr 25 2008, 10:54 AM) [snapback]439995[/snapback]
A smear of sudocrem at each change works wonders.

laugh.gif

The dark secrets of the en suite chez Bam!
mortonjag 2008-04-25 10:59:41
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 25 2008, 10:42 AM) [snapback]439989[/snapback]
Not another Clinton please , think of the White House interms! laugh.gif

I hope Obama will spare us of Hillary "the Joker" Clinton

Aye thae effin' Clintons couldny run a caird shop.
mortonjag 2008-04-25 12:18:16
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 25 2008, 11:19 AM) [snapback]440004[/snapback]
So he is not a Scotsman reader like me!

PS can he do the crossword?

He helps his Dad with the Herald crossword-but only when the former gets stuck!
mortonjag 2008-04-25 12:21:07
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Apr 25 2008, 11:47 AM) [snapback]440015[/snapback]
Surely this is more of a Puggsy...

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDThat's clearly Lee Robinson!
mortonjag 2008-04-25 12:23:50
QUOTE(edd @ Apr 25 2008, 11:18 AM) [snapback]440002[/snapback]
shouldn't that be "who don't deserve payment"?

It IS now-thank goodness for proper Universities! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 12:29:57
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Apr 25 2008, 12:18 PM) [snapback]440035[/snapback]
A grand will do, in fact probably less, it's only a game.

Very true-and every man indeed has his price. I've already decided that since I regard myself as financially comfortable, it would actually take a great deal of money-bear in mind I'm an oldie, and I want progress in my lifetime, so being the principled chap I am, I've set the figure at £100, 000,000.

I'm sure that with that kind of cash, I could buy the club over and get it to the SPL before I shake off the mortal coil.
mortonjag 2008-04-25 12:32:44
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Apr 24 2008, 08:13 PM) [snapback]439741[/snapback]
'Defence agent Taco Nolf said' - Surely a comedy wind up name laugh.gif

Airline pilot.
mortonjag 2008-04-25 12:35:04
QUOTE(Alibi @ Apr 25 2008, 12:31 PM) [snapback]440041[/snapback]
Shouldn't it be "which" or "that"? Who is a personal pronoun, and Crimestoppers is/are an organisation, business or similar entity.

Thank goodness for VERY proper Universities! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 13:04:59
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 25 2008, 01:00 PM) [snapback]440050[/snapback]
he's got over 20% of all today's posts. i'm not reading them all but i'm willing to bet that 95% of those are vacuous and boring.

What a fulsome and stimulating comment.
mortonjag 2008-04-25 13:05:43
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 25 2008, 12:58 PM) [snapback]440049[/snapback]
this is an internet messageboard - the title of this thread should be 'i could of been a contender'.

i got kicked out of tertiary education. it's no big deal now, although it as pretty bad at the time. nothing wrong with being a loser in a society that worships rapacious greed and vacuous celebs.

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mortonjag 2008-04-25 13:09:07
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 25 2008, 01:07 PM) [snapback]440054[/snapback]
i'd rather be a loser than a p***k like your good self.

Hmm-loser and liar it seems.
mortonjag 2008-04-25 13:11:01
QUOTE(longboat @ Apr 25 2008, 01:07 PM) [snapback]440055[/snapback]
Notice there is only one player listed as a creditor (James Grady). Gretna breached the contracts of around 20 players by failing to pay them and offering them games. The administrator admitted that they had breached their contracts, so I assume there is additional amounts to be totted up on behalf of the players once their claims go in. Our Paartalu would be amongst that lot.

I believe the date for lodging claims has already passed.
mortonjag 2008-04-25 13:20:35
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 25 2008, 01:11 PM) [snapback]440058[/snapback]
Determining of you're a 'loser' or a 'success' is down to the individual. In our society sadly that tends to be determined by how wealthy you are.

Personally I would define success not in terms of wealth but in terms of happiness and contentment. Of course being wealthy may help to make you happy but it shouldn't in itself a pre-requisite and it's certainly not a guarantee.

So the bottom line is, if you're happy within yourself, you're not a loser irrespective of what you've done in the past or what you do now.

Spot on mon petit ami-the sad fact though, is that some folk seem to spend their miserable existences listening to others shagging while half anaesthetised by inhalation of the odours from sweaty trainers and the effects of other unspecified agents.

I'm not sure about sweaty trainers, but paranoia is certainly a side effect of hash.

Mortonjag could have many years ago become a world renowned haematologist but for a quirk of fate-in that respect he may be a 'loser' but he's perfectly content. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 15:48:51
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 25 2008, 01:38 PM) [snapback]440067[/snapback]
[center][/center]Warning to all going to Firhill on Saturday.

[left][/left]Watch out for the one they call WeegieTon, for he will be extremely toxic tomorrow. He is attending a curry night, tonight and will be full of Jalfriezi and Dopiazi (SP). People in the vacinity of him may be overcome by the smell tomorrow. Weegie apologises in advance for this and hopes that it will not spoil your enjoyment of the game. laugh.gif

By their deeds shall ye know them!
mortonjag 2008-04-25 16:04:09
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 25 2008, 01:22 PM) [snapback]440063[/snapback]
i was stoned out y nut for a good portion of the nineties as well. that was f***ing great and all.

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the quirk of fate being that you're an insufferable arsehole with a raging walter mitty complex?


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QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 25 2008, 01:27 PM) [snapback]440064[/snapback]
Wouldn't say I am a loser. There's plenty of things i would have liked to do but was either not talented enough or got the breaks required. Such is life. I always try to look at life positively. I work full time, I am healthy, have a lovely wife and a great son. Have a nice house and a decent car. I have a good family behind me and plenty of decent friends. In many respects I am extremely wealthy.


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QUOTE(rex manning @ Apr 25 2008, 01:34 PM) [snapback]440066[/snapback]
OK, take loser out of the equation. If i hadn't been kicked out I would be doing something completely different to what i'm doing right now. Looking back it was a big event which changed the course of my future immensely. Kinda like Ace Rimmer. I was just thinking how my life would have been right now if i hadn't been escorted off the premises of Aberdeen Uni.

Basically I was looking for a "I was going to be a professional golfer until a giraffe stood on my hand" kinda thread
. Although now you've made me realise how uncontent and unhappy i am i may infact need to kill myself.

Randy Floyd your in need of an serious attitude adjustment young man.

I was about to achieve the pinnacle of perfection when I started to post on a football forum.


QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 25 2008, 01:41 PM) [snapback]440069[/snapback]
smile.gif the older you get, the more rules they gonna try get you to follow. you just gotta keep livin, man. L I V I N.

oh aye, i'd have been an archaeologist if i hadn't started going out with someone in edinburgh who wasn't worth it halfway through my first year at southampton uni. actually, that's probably not true. i'd have got an archaeology degree and spent some time unemployed before doing the same s*** i ended up doing anyway.

it's been a laugh, though. eventually


Kicked our of archeology at Southampton has to rank way high up the list of supreme under achievements! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif



QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Apr 25 2008, 02:59 PM) [snapback]440081[/snapback]
I think the only person in Life tha can judge your success is yourself

Everyone has different markers for success
I dont think wealth or success in your career is a main factor . Having Family & Friends and Happiness is the main thing for me

Im lucky to be doing a job I love that has a gr8 salary & Benifits . If I had to I would do the same Job for less money because I love doing it (Dont tell my bosses that tho Im due a pay rise lol). I have quit several jobs in the past that paid well because I didnt enjoy them .

I still aim to own my own club in the next 3 years and then retire @ 40 (We can Dream)

That's not always true Scott-some people literally kill themselves by setting their sights too high-believe it or not I listen to what others say nowadays infinitely more than when I was in my teens and twenties.

Manky's right about materialism-no harm in it if it GENUINELY makes you happy, but my experience is that worldly goods are rarely enough on their own.
mortonjag 2008-04-25 16:09:32
QUOTE(Yoda @ Apr 25 2008, 02:53 PM) [snapback]440079[/snapback]

Blind date with 'the Big Yin'! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 16:12:27
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 25 2008, 11:18 AM) [snapback]440001[/snapback]
Aye thae effin' Clintons couldny run a caird shop.
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Good grief we have agreed again ! this is serious! laugh.gif



Fret not-it won't last! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 16:13:12
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Apr 25 2008, 04:08 PM) [snapback]440101[/snapback]
God's sake you'll have them all looking over their shoulders all the time!!

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mortonjag 2008-04-25 16:17:30
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Apr 25 2008, 03:57 PM) [snapback]440095[/snapback]
There is no cut off for lodging claims in any insolvency process except where a dividend is announced where you have have your claim in 6 weeks before the distribution. Other than that you can lodge a claim at any time.

I did'nt see anything that looked like Alibi's £90k + in the list nor did I see anything for Messrs Irons and Collins!

Ah I may have been mixing things up-I forgot that Gretna are still trading, and not yet in sequestration!

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Alibi's is listed OK but it only shows as about a third of his £90k
mortonjag 2008-04-25 16:21:29
QUOTE(calton @ Apr 25 2008, 04:06 PM) [snapback]440100[/snapback]
I wonder what the SFL would say if the game was called off tomorrow at Firhill due to excessive rainfall and the game at Forthbank took place?

Given that its chucking it down now and the forecast for tomorrow is the same in the central belt, it's entirely possible, especially with the state of the pitch at Firhill.

Would that be to Morton's advantage because then they would know exactly what they had to do?

If we got enough notice we should all head straight to Broadwood and give the Binos their biggest lift all season! Clyde just wouldn't know what had hit them!

Certainly what I will be doing IF necessary.
mortonjag 2008-04-25 16:27:47
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 25 2008, 04:14 PM) [snapback]440109[/snapback]
i wasn't kicked out of southampton, which, by the way, was and is probably a better university than glasgow.

anyway, i quite like being an underachiever. i try to avoid overachievers, they tend to be crap company.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


Not everybody rates Universities on their Archeology faculties! wink.gif

BTW what is your definition of an 'overachiever'?

Jordan springs to mind-if that's the sort of thing you mean, they do tend to be largely artificial.
mortonjag 2008-04-25 16:33:19
QUOTE(tontastic @ Apr 25 2008, 04:31 PM) [snapback]440123[/snapback]
Why do you do what you do?

Coming from a gentleman with all that surveillance equipment, I feel distinctly uncomfortable! mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 16:36:08
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 25 2008, 04:12 PM) [snapback]440106[/snapback]
Oh glory be to great god that is Shanks. (His cistern is nice to wink.gif )

Barrhead has much to be grateful for!
mortonjag 2008-04-25 17:46:36
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 25 2008, 04:49 PM) [snapback]440135[/snapback]
no, but the tes does, and southampton is top 4 in the uk.

How did I know you were going to say that! laugh.gif



it's a negative term for me. when i hear that word i think of solicitors, doctors, airline pilots and other assorted pompous bores. obviously i would be pleased to have bought someone like richard feynman a pint, but i wouldn't call people like him overachievers. more like fine examples of humanity or something equally catchy.



How did I know you were going to say that! laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-04-25 17:47:47
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Apr 25 2008, 04:42 PM) [snapback]440130[/snapback]
..to me
I wish I knew
If I knew how you did it to me
I'd do it to you.

..but I haven't a clue! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 17:49:57
QUOTE(tontastic @ Apr 25 2008, 04:58 PM) [snapback]440140[/snapback]
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? ... those noble lies work every time ...

Very wise-cave ides martias Caesar an a' that!
mortonjag 2008-04-25 17:54:37 The game is already won-we must celebrate from the kick off! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 17:57:34
QUOTE(edd @ Apr 25 2008, 05:53 PM) [snapback]440164[/snapback]
is the k850i any good? i'm thinking about getting one but have read mixed reviews ...

My little Nokia on the Tesco p.a.y.g network cost me £20 with £10 of free air time chucked in and it never lets me down! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 18:04:06
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Apr 25 2008, 05:58 PM) [snapback]440170[/snapback]
because I'm an alcoholic

That's a very interesting statement WDE.

If you became a recovering alcoholic you would behave differently then!


Seriously--I counsel youngsters with addictive (mainly drugs) problems on a voluntary basis.

WHY?

I kind of drifted into it after I had to retire-I already had counselling qualifications, and mental health issues of all kinds are very close to my heart.

I don't know if I really do much good or not, but I seem to be appreciated at least somewhere! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 18:06:16
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Apr 25 2008, 06:05 PM) [snapback]440175[/snapback]
Thanks, if I get in touch it will be after the wedding.

I'd be delighted to listen.
mortonjag 2008-04-25 18:07:36 Boris Becker?
mortonjag 2008-04-25 18:49:57 No ifs and buts for this one-the game is WON-I'm fed up with a shower of jellyfish for supporters-we NEED a wee bit of arrogance and belief tomorrow. All bloody season the Cowshed has waited and waited and only ever managed to respond AFTER we've done the business.

Tomorrow will be different! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 18:54:09
QUOTE(centralTON @ Apr 25 2008, 06:50 PM) [snapback]440194[/snapback]
Let's not take anything for granted and get right behind the team.
Remember, we could win and, depending on the Clyde v Stirling score, still end up in the play-offs.
This could also mean another 6 games i.e,
2 v Clyde ( if they finish 1 goal better than us )
2 v Alloa / Peterhead / Brechin ( all 3 can still finish 4th )
2 v winners of Raith v Airdrie.

Mon e' 'Ton.

Trust the Jag-I told you last week we'd be in eighth spot after the Pars game-this is no time for JMitis-BELIEVE! wink.gif Ton to win-Clyde to draw.
mortonjag 2008-04-25 21:24:29
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Apr 25 2008, 06:55 PM) [snapback]440197[/snapback]
Mortonjag told us we would beat Dundee too.

It was a moral victory! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 21:26:17
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 25 2008, 07:55 PM) [snapback]440225[/snapback]
i think dougie rae deserves a lot of credit for the turnround - after all, if he's responsible for the downside he's also responsible for the upside laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-04-25 21:29:55
QUOTE(Alibi @ Apr 25 2008, 07:14 PM) [snapback]440202[/snapback]
They have only included my first invoice - it's a mistake by the administrators and has now been drawn to their attention. And if they don't have it included, I will draw their attention to it on May 8th by hitting their representative very hard on the nose with my fist. That should do the trick.

Alternatively sequestration. Yes, that's it. I'll sequestrate him. Wilson Field, Eunuchs. That will cut their hourly rate a wee bit.

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mortonjag 2008-04-25 21:35:09
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 25 2008, 07:12 PM) [snapback]440200[/snapback]
MY OATH TO YOU...
When you are sad....I will dry your tears.
When you are scared....I will comfort your fears.
When you are worried.....I will give you hope.
When you are confused....I will help you cope.
And when you are lost....And can't see the light, I shall be your beacon.....Shining ever so bright.
This is my oath.....I pledge till the end.
Why you may ask?.....Because you're my friend.


What a lovely man you are laugh.gif
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 25 2008, 07:20 PM) [snapback]440205[/snapback]
yes please tongue.gif
(and for the faint-hearted - moronjag is just a persona rolleyes.gif )

When the trumpet of the Lord shall sound-I'll be there!!!!! mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 21:38:48
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Apr 25 2008, 09:03 PM) [snapback]440244[/snapback]
Cheers everyone. Mother and baby are both so well they are now home which just goes to show that the docs really are decent sorts, either that or my backhander to keep them in over the weekend so I could nurse my hangover and make the game tomorrow was a bit short.

Both I'd imagine!
mortonjag 2008-04-25 21:40:27
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Apr 25 2008, 07:51 PM) [snapback]440224[/snapback]
why can't we all be friends? qed laugh.gif

He always says bad things about me Trumpet-I've a mind to report him.
mortonjag 2008-04-25 21:41:54
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Apr 25 2008, 08:19 PM) [snapback]440231[/snapback]
The ORC at Southampton has been very succesful. One of their professors has been shortlisted for the Millennium Technology prize.

http://www.millenniumprize.fi/

I used to visit their labs and stay in Hamble. Now that was very civilised. It is one of the areas in England that I would have relocated to.

Careful HT-Trumpet will be down on you like a ton of bricks!
mortonjag 2008-04-25 21:43:32
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Apr 25 2008, 08:28 PM) [snapback]440233[/snapback]
Like Weegie, I'm happily married but with two little boys. Both of whom are proud of their Morton kits despite being born in Lewisham. I fell into my career through chance and lack of opportunities up the road. I'll never be rich but I'm extremely happy. Only regret is that I never went to university. Trying to fix that now through the OU. But don't get too down about it - Wouldn't have met Mrs TAFKAC if I'd gone to uni at the right time.

laugh.gif

I have heard of black striped balls, mind you!
mortonjag 2008-04-25 21:45:17 Spent the day at Knockhill courtesy of Saab-their test drivers were maniacs!!!
mortonjag 2008-04-25 21:51:23
QUOTE(capitanus @ Apr 25 2008, 09:43 PM) [snapback]440268[/snapback]
I know that Alibi is courting sympathy from all who care to read his plight, but I find it impossible to feel sorry for him.

In fact I almost have more sympathy for those spamming Nigerian Oil Millionaires who were denied their fortunes and want your bank details. I said almost.

Well he WAS warned about Mileson in plenty of time, it has to be said, but you can't seriously fail to feel sorry for any of those small creditors.

Even the bloody local GP practice is owed a few grand! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 22:32:45
QUOTE(enigmaton @ Apr 25 2008, 10:11 PM) [snapback]440281[/snapback]
"The town bike" at the corrie park was brilliant!
Only spoiled by the bloody queues. rolleyes.gif



FIRST EVER ACTUAL RIDE



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mortonjag 2008-04-25 23:20:37
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Apr 25 2008, 11:06 PM) [snapback]440305[/snapback]
Surely not from the best fans in Scotland unsure.gif

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mortonjag 2008-04-25 23:21:51
QUOTE(enigmaton @ Apr 25 2008, 10:45 PM) [snapback]440292[/snapback]
Correct!! How did you know that?
Were you the old guy i was talking to in the queue? unsure.gif

Indeed I was, AND collecting the money! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 23:24:59
QUOTE(18-deano-ehm-74 @ Apr 25 2008, 10:40 PM) [snapback]440290[/snapback]
Moral victories don't get us any points wink.gif

Neither did immoral losses! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 23:26:57
QUOTE(Alibi @ Apr 25 2008, 11:03 PM) [snapback]440304[/snapback]
Emm.... the list is in alphabetical order. And Mileson goes to the back of the queue apparently as a creditor who has a direct connection as a director.


He WILL be at the creditors' meeting of course! wacko.gif wacko.gif wacko.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-25 23:29:23
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Apr 25 2008, 11:16 PM) [snapback]440307[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED
mortonjag 2008-04-25 23:31:23
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 25 2008, 11:23 PM) [snapback]440310[/snapback]
go for it, gaywad. like i give a f***. before you do, note that i have never even considered reporting anyone to whoever runs this thing - in fact i've never clyped in my life - which is the same attitude you have claimed to have yourself until now.

haud on. i have clyped before. it was a health and safety issue, but. it was deserved!

These Chinese have much to answer for.
mortonjag 2008-04-25 23:32:51
QUOTE(Deego @ Apr 25 2008, 11:31 PM) [snapback]440318[/snapback]
I thought this thread was going to be about sex.

It is about rides-I once rode a Shetland Pony.
mortonjag 2008-04-25 23:45:47
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Apr 25 2008, 11:38 PM) [snapback]440322[/snapback]
It was superb and lasted all night

...though I didn't realise her mother was watching from over the hedge.
mortonjag 2008-04-25 23:48:26
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Apr 25 2008, 11:47 PM) [snapback]440327[/snapback]
she would have been very tired then

She was too busy snorting.
mortonjag 2008-04-25 23:50:21
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Apr 25 2008, 11:48 PM) [snapback]440329[/snapback]
Guiness draft from a can! funny how it takes two to fill a pint tumbler!! why is that? is it the gadget/widget thing that takes up a third of the can space!!!

What you drinking just now?

Tea, specially brewed with MRET water. PG tips I believe, or so the monkey says.
mortonjag 2008-04-25 23:52:22
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Apr 25 2008, 11:50 PM) [snapback]440331[/snapback]
You just finished the book 'how to win friends and influence people'

It must have been torcherous being one of your patients!!! jeez you need to lighten up and take a chill pill

I also once rode a pig bareback for a dare
mortonjag 2008-04-25 23:53:41
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 25 2008, 11:52 PM) [snapback]440334[/snapback]
you're impinging on the jake hour, mate. time for bed.

as for me, i'm onto the cheap whisky, since the good stuff is in a cardboard box in my parents' house in greenock. goddam flits.

Do you know what MRET water is?
mortonjag 2008-04-25 23:55:55
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 25 2008, 11:55 PM) [snapback]440338[/snapback]
i rode a bull at a rodeo for a dare. beat that, mr life experience.

Aye right!
mortonjag 2008-04-25 23:57:40
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Apr 25 2008, 11:56 PM) [snapback]440341[/snapback]
Feel good movies like 'love actually' kinda grip me for both and believe it or not, I actually get caught up in those types of movies.

A good comedian (aka early big yin, early young ones, early blackadder etc) generally does the trick or even watching life go by brings a big smile to my face.

nothing better than a good cry or a good greet!!

what does it for you?

Shoogly has successfully done both many times this season-I've laughed out loud many a time reading the programme notes.

The crying has been done in secret.
mortonjag 2008-04-25 23:59:04
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 25 2008, 11:55 PM) [snapback]440339[/snapback]
i don't give a f***. you don't belong here. so f*** off.

I was planning on bed very shortly-I'm now almost determined to stay up all night.
mortonjag 2008-04-26 00:02:11
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 25 2008, 11:59 PM) [snapback]440347[/snapback]
like i give a f*** what you think.

You could have fooled me darling-now it really is the witching hour-I can hear my beloved moaning with pleasurable expectation.

Good night and God Bless. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-26 00:03:47
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Apr 26 2008, 12:01 AM) [snapback]440349[/snapback]
Molecular Resonance Effect Technology
The basic idea of Molecular Resonance Effect Technology is the direct transmission of prerecorded molecular activity signals to biological systems with the help of Activated Water. These messages are imprinted in water during the process of activation. The effect of Activated Water on molecular complexes, such as bacteria, viruses, and abnormal cells, can be explained by the fundamental physical phenomenon of electromagnetism, such as resonance, constructive and destructive interference.

I think!

Correct, and the Jag has the equipment.

Good night! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-26 00:04:40
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Apr 25 2008, 11:59 PM) [snapback]440346[/snapback]
Not at all Monsieur, you deserve the compliment. biggrin.gif

Goodnight and God bless Grand-dad!
mortonjag 2008-04-26 07:30:49
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 26 2008, 07:20 AM) [snapback]440383[/snapback]
Why did you take your shirt off MJ? unsure.gif

Christ almighty-the repartee after seven hours is f*ckin amazin!
mortonjag 2008-04-26 07:36:44
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Apr 26 2008, 12:56 AM) [snapback]440367[/snapback]
sounds like pish to me. 'pre-recorded molecular activity'? bearing in mind that a water molecule has only 2 molecular bonds, there's not much room for memory there. not that memory is a suitable word.

anyway, mentaljag is still a dick, no matter how fast his internet connection to google is.

F*ck all to do with Google-I am acquainted with Dr Smirnov who discovered MRET when he was commissioned to study healing spas in the aftermath of Chernobyl. I use MRET water for a variety of purposes including the treatment of certain skin conditions.

Do not mock the educated you mangy cur!
mortonjag 2008-04-26 07:38:02
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Apr 26 2008, 02:25 AM) [snapback]440374[/snapback]
H²O.

MRET H2O?
mortonjag 2008-04-26 07:39:37
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 26 2008, 07:23 AM) [snapback]440384[/snapback]
Was on pints of stella and jack daniels last night, damn good!

Is Jack Daniels any better than yon' last bloke?
mortonjag 2008-04-26 07:42:07
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 26 2008, 07:26 AM) [snapback]440385[/snapback]
Fawlty towers and all Blackadders' are a real hoot and its a wonderful life for howling.

Believe it or not I get a lotta laffs on this forum-some of our posters are an absolute hoot! laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-26 07:44:24
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 26 2008, 07:32 AM) [snapback]440388[/snapback]
Morning MJ , I wasnt in at the time you posted so sorry for the time delay!

Oh well you are forgiven, but don't let it happen again.


The pig had a bareback-I can't remember if my shirt was on or off, but I had to remove my pants.
mortonjag 2008-04-26 07:45:40
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 26 2008, 07:29 AM) [snapback]440386[/snapback]
Fair doos I cant do the bloody thing either! laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-04-26 07:52:14 O give thanks unto the LORD; for he is good: because his mercy endureth for ever.
I called upon the LORD in distress: the LORD answered me, and set me in a large place.
The LORD is on my side; I will not fear: what can man do unto me?
The LORD taketh my part with them that help me: therefore shall I see my desire upon them that hate me.
It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.
The LORD is my strength and song, and is become my salvation.
The LORD hath chastened me sore: but he hath not given me over unto death.
Open to me the gates of righteousness: I will go into them, and I will praise the LORD
I will praise thee: for thou hast heard me, and art become my salvation.
This is the day which the LORD hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it.
O give thanks unto the LORD; for he is good: for his mercy endureth for ever.




AMEN
mortonjag 2008-04-26 07:56:08 Heavy rain and SW winds gusting up to 20 m.p.h. forecast for glesca, but I've been keeping a close eye on things and there's no evidence of local flooding.

Not a day for silky flowing football at Firhill or Broadwood I'd guess.
mortonjag 2008-04-26 08:03:55
QUOTE(jan65ton @ Apr 25 2008, 11:35 PM) [snapback]440320[/snapback]
to be the big 50 n have a body to die for but then at the 50 age would u be puttin it away so to speak whats u views n that video with young justin.

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I can't speak for anybody else but I'm in my sixties and have a body to die for. 'Puttin; it away'-I'm not sure what that means, but I still enjoy bringing it out.
mortonjag 2008-04-26 08:05:16 Jools Holland-chopsticks
mortonjag 2008-04-26 08:06:20 The ginger cretin gnome of paradox was once a fine carrot top.
mortonjag 2008-04-26 08:08:19
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Apr 25 2008, 07:49 PM) [snapback]440223[/snapback]
FOA WeegieTon, picked up the book for you in the Port. Will see you at the game.

I will be having a read of that!
mortonjag 2008-04-26 08:09:23 They should just exhume Big Jock.
mortonjag 2008-04-26 08:10:19 I only find you tube funny on occasion.
mortonjag 2008-04-26 08:11:18
QUOTE(leyTON @ Apr 25 2008, 07:39 PM) [snapback]440215[/snapback]
brilliant - love knock and dont run and my ball
havent seen much of series 3 - out most friday nights and virgin on demand doesnt seem to record it

Are those games any good for wee monkeys?
mortonjag 2008-04-26 08:12:26
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Apr 25 2008, 06:02 PM) [snapback]440173[/snapback]
Hello Loyal Lass, yes thanks, saw that in the record and sent them an email with my CV. I don't have one years experiance or even my LGV licence but it will do no harm to have emailed them telling them that and asking if they are looking for any 7.5 tonne drivers until I get my LGV licence blah blah blah.

Doubt if they could swing a club.
mortonjag 2008-04-26 08:13:22 Concorde was a graceful bird.
mortonjag 2008-04-26 08:14:00
QUOTE(Yoda @ Apr 25 2008, 09:10 AM) [snapback]439913[/snapback]
They took it down stone by stone, put it on pallets and left it on the site of the old Blacks factory the other side of the bridge at Cappielow. Then it wasn't there anymore. A midnight flit me thinks!

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mortonjag 2008-04-26 08:14:58 Is this pineapple club in Glasgow?
mortonjag 2008-04-26 08:17:10
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 25 2008, 10:05 AM) [snapback]439944[/snapback]
Labour MSP Duncan McNeil told parliament: "Cynics might say: Trump said jump, the First Minister of Scotland said how high?'."

And the public might say how low can this git Mc Neil get and vote him out! mad.gif No one would deserve it more!

His DOES support the Mighty Ton , though! rolleyes.gif wacko.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-26 08:19:28 Is there an upper age limit?
mortonjag 2008-04-26 08:21:04
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Apr 24 2008, 09:44 PM) [snapback]439777[/snapback]
it's the password then - change it again, you've probably mispelled it somewhere (router or Xbox)

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The long lost art of rudimentary diagnosis, Santa! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-26 08:22:03 sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-26 08:28:30
QUOTE(jpmil @ Apr 26 2008, 08:09 AM) [snapback]440402[/snapback]
Just back from the golf course (didn't play) because of the weather and the Greenkeeper told me that up to an inch of rain is forecast for today......now I'm beginning to worry!!!!!!

Up here it's been heavy but in bursts of shower and there's been plenty of time for drainage so far as I can see.
mortonjag 2008-04-26 08:30:43
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 26 2008, 08:26 AM) [snapback]440417[/snapback]
Very deep.

My God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-26 08:32:14
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 26 2008, 08:22 AM) [snapback]440414[/snapback]
I believe his loyalties lie at Ibrox and he only turns up at cappielow to try and get some CHUCK It wont work though!

Hence my 'smileys'!
mortonjag 2008-04-26 08:34:06
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 26 2008, 08:23 AM) [snapback]440415[/snapback]
Yes you are up early and apparently very busy! I would presume your little monkey friend has taken his attention from the Financial times to assist you ! wink.gif

He's actually been helping his Mum to prepare the sandwiches for this evening's victory buffet!
mortonjag 2008-04-26 08:35:31
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 26 2008, 08:25 AM) [snapback]440416[/snapback]
Good grief! ohmy.gif

All that's required is a breadth of mind-I've seen much worse walking down Sauchiehall St.
mortonjag 2008-04-26 08:38:21
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 26 2008, 08:34 AM) [snapback]440426[/snapback]
Hence my 'smileys'!
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You rascal

Mr McNeill epitomises the McGahey type trade unionist, turned lefty MP-as thick as s*** and appealing to a thicker electorate.

A dying breed too, and thank f***.
mortonjag 2008-04-26 08:40:50
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 26 2008, 08:36 AM) [snapback]440428[/snapback]
He's actually been helping his Mum to prepare the sandwiches for this evening's victory buffet!
[/quote What a helpful little monkey! I think thats great! its always best to plan ahead! Are you still toying with the idea of cycling or walking to the match??


Truth be told --- my partner (the hun one) had promised to come to the game with me, but now has to baby sit for her sister in Bishopbriggs, so I'll be dropping her off and driving over the back roads to Maryhill.
mortonjag 2008-04-26 08:44:08
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 26 2008, 08:30 AM) [snapback]440420[/snapback]
very droll! laugh.gif No I was referring to the drink and they are a potent combination!

I'll never forget a night out with my eldest son in the dearly departed 'Wickets' in Partickhill.

It was getting up to closing time and he was already pretty far away, when he had the barmaid in stitches by ordering a triple Dack Janiels and coke!

I wasn't so amused-Daddy, as usual, was paying!

mortonjag 2008-04-26 08:47:04
QUOTE(enigmaton @ Apr 26 2008, 08:40 AM) [snapback]440430[/snapback]
Take it a hangovers on the cards tody then Dazza!!!

FOOLS ENJOY ALCOHOL RECKLESSLY
mortonjag 2008-04-26 09:15:55 Three High Court judges will rule this summer on an appeal case which could overturn speeding convictions dating back a generation and open the floodgates for compensation running into tens of millions of pounds.

At the heart of the appeal is the alleged failure of the Home Office to follow its own procedures by specifying in law the equipment used for speed traps. Each type of camera or device, whether using radar, laser or other technology, was meant to be tested and then specifically prescribed by name in a Parliamentary Order.

The failure of civil servants to do so could render most of the speeding convictions over the past 19 years unsound, and judges at the Court of Appeal will rule on the test case this summer.
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The case is seen as being of sufficient merit that legal aid has been awarded and counsel is being instructed.

A second argument in the case will be that similar bureaucratic sloppiness has left Scotland's motorway network stuck in a grey area in law, with the roads' precise status unclear and therefore the laws applying to them invalid.

This argument does not apply south of the Border, but the arguments about the legality of speed cameras does and that is to be tested in a similar test case in England brought by the same campaigner.

The case in Scotland is logged as Robbie the Pict v Procurator-Fiscal Annan, and relates to the campaigner being convicted of driving at 85mph on the M74. He told The Herald yesterday that his defence was that there was no speed limit on this stretch of road or any other motorway in Scotland because the subordinate legislation was never put in place to confirm in law the road's status.

His second line of defence is that no laser speed measuring device has been declared a prescribed device in the required Parliamentary Order, including the LTI 20-20 Speedscope used to convict him.

He also has a case before the English courts regarding the use of the Gatso camera, the most commonly used on Britain's road, which he argues has also not been properly prescribed.

The campaigner said: "This places under question all speeding convictions on motorways since their opening in Scotland, all speeding convictions based on speed measuring devices or cameras since 1991, and in particular all speeding fines or convictions based upon laser guns and their related cameras since their individual introduction. This is now a multi-million pound issue undermining every fine levied since 1991 and all the compensation which may be due as a result of wrongful prosecutions and convictions.

"The possible political fallout is of a significant order, starts with the Tory Home Secretary of 1991 Kenneth Baker, followed by Kenneth Clarke




I have twice successfully contested a speeding fine/endorsement for my eldest son on the basis that the 'registered keeper' of the vehicle (myself) may quite feasibly be unable to identify a specific driver many weeks or months after an alleged incident.

I'm not condoning excessive speed, but those cameras, IMHO, do little to prevent accidents (especially since the mandatory warning stripes) and are just a form of secondary taxation.

A recent report in the NE of England where they abandoned the cameras and introduced more unmarked patrols demonstrated a significant drop in accidents.
mortonjag 2008-04-26 09:18:22
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Apr 26 2008, 09:15 AM) [snapback]440438[/snapback]
I'm shaking like a s***eing dug already.

Mon the Ton.

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No need to get OVER excited pimpleknob-it's in the bag! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-26 09:19:22
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Apr 26 2008, 09:15 AM) [snapback]440439[/snapback]
Oh I was born under a Greenock tree, A Greenock, Greenock Tree laugh.gif

I was born under a Greenock tree.
mortonjag 2008-04-26 09:22:45
QUOTE(se65an @ Apr 24 2008, 07:17 PM) [snapback]439729[/snapback]
Too old for me MJ.

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You're only as old as you wish to be-I'm told Claymore C*ck's a past master of Strip the Willow.
mortonjag 2008-04-26 09:25:20
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Apr 26 2008, 09:21 AM) [snapback]440443[/snapback]
not conceived mj ................................ tongue.gif

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Ma Da came under a Greenock tree doesn't sound right.
mortonjag 2008-04-26 09:30:24
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 26 2008, 09:27 AM) [snapback]440448[/snapback]
Thats a serious dent in the old wallet there MJ,no wonder you were not amused! sad.gif

It was all worth it mind-he can now buy and sell me! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-26 09:34:34
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Apr 26 2008, 09:28 AM) [snapback]440450[/snapback]
not got quite the same ring to it......................... tongue.gif

Indeed-I do like that song but I can't abide that daft 'Stand up' one when only those who are at least half pissed bother to raise their arses off the seats and block others' views.

Hopefully we'll sort out some decent songs for next season's SPL drive!
mortonjag 2008-04-26 09:36:49
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 26 2008, 09:30 AM) [snapback]440451[/snapback]
I one day hope to see that smug git get his at the ballot box , some of us have long memories! mad.gif

He may die prematurely of obesity! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-26 09:44:21
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 26 2008, 09:31 AM) [snapback]440453[/snapback]
ah well alls well that ends well! does he now treat his ageing father in a similar fashion?

Mortonjag wouldn't be seen dead drinking triple Dack Janiels with coke!

He is very generous mind you-bought me my current car as a 'pay back' for starting him in business! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-26 10:37:12
QUOTE(dazed @ Apr 26 2008, 10:30 AM) [snapback]440471[/snapback]
Well thats pretty good of him! I prefer clear lemonade and ice with my JD's although as the night goes on les and less lemonade goes in and more and more JD!

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Why bother with the lemonade?
mortonjag 2008-04-26 10:40:22
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Apr 26 2008, 10:24 AM) [snapback]440468[/snapback]
Am I wrong in thinking we sing 'I was born under a Green Oak Tree' not 'Greenock Tree?' unsure.gif

You are wrong-AND correct! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-26 10:43:31
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 26 2008, 10:39 AM) [snapback]440477[/snapback]
I have done a bit of strip willowing in my day. rolleyes.gif

Since it's my birthday tomorrow, I'm looking for a wee early birthday present today tongue.gif Just to help with the celebrations tonight laugh.gif

Good God Spurtle you're almost 50.

Wisdom must surely kick in soon! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-26 10:44:51
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Apr 26 2008, 10:39 AM) [snapback]440476[/snapback]
Aw baws! - I've got tickets for his concert in Glasgow in December!!!

An excuse for plenty of Dack Janiels minus lemonade I'd suggest!
mortonjag 2008-04-26 10:47:52
QUOTE(piehutt @ Apr 26 2008, 10:44 AM) [snapback]440484[/snapback]
mortonjag highjacks another promising thread.

c*nt!

What are you bleating about child?

Mortonjag has hi-jacked nothing-the thread is about unspecified rides.

How much silky flowing football do you predict from the mighty Ton this afternoon Piehole?
mortonjag 2008-04-26 10:51:42
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Apr 26 2008, 10:43 AM) [snapback]440481[/snapback]
I didn't get where I am today by not knowing what it is I'm not doing

You should try to get more sleep, it might put you in a better mood for the day! huh.gif

I get more than enough sleep thanks, and am in an extremely good mood.

When somebody asks a question like 'What's wrong with *******-everything was fine until I changed the password'----the obvious conclusion is that that it what has caused the problem. I was actually praising your clarity of mind! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-26 10:53:21
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Apr 26 2008, 10:44 AM) [snapback]440483[/snapback]
Well it hasn't with you laugh.gif

I was born wise and improved hugely!
mortonjag 2008-04-26 18:13:14 The only disappointment for me was Rae having the pure gall to come on to the pitch at the end. I was very interested to hear Davie Irons mention Alistair Donald on his BBC Scotland interview. I pray we've seen the end of that old clown calling the shots.

WELL DONE to everybody else-you were fantastic-as were the fans. Well done to DI/DC and the lads!
mortonjag 2008-04-26 21:57:55
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Apr 26 2008, 08:30 PM) [snapback]440792[/snapback]
Were you playing sudoko at half time today?

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Indeed I was not. I was just delighted that my confidence in David Irons had been justified even if it did go right to the wire, and I stand by my comments about Douglas Rae. The same folk who are raging because I've dared to criticise him today are the ones who were right behind JM this time last year. rolleyes.gif

Memories are indeed very very short for some. Rae did NOT want JM to leave-if anybody deserves praise today for allowing change in time to avoid relegation it's bloody JM himself-oh and eejit Mileson for bailing out just at the opportune moment for us to pick up some players and a half decent Management team.

It would have been SO different if JM had agreed to hang on-yet that's what Rae claimed he wanted.

As I said, he has some f*cking cheek coming onto the pitch at the end-NO WAY was it to do anything other than to bask in glory of somebody else's making.

Is Alistair Donald now about to splash the cash-I honestly believe that's on the cards. Hopefully we've seen the last of our Saviour turned liability, except in an honorary capacity.


Credit to a Chairman who's bacon's been saved by events outwith his control? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-04-27 09:19:15 It's the morning after the night before. The sun is shining brightly; the monkey and and I have happy smiles and are sans hangover.

I wonder how many who attended yesterday's trial can say the same.

The charge-Morton had failed to bring anything to the higher division, and if found guilty, would risk banishment to the lower division wasteland from which they had, only a short season ago, painfully clawed their way.

The charge indeed was of corporate manslaughter by the directors, though all but the Chairman had lodged a defence of 'alibi'.

In the event, the not proven verdict was a monstrous relief to all at Cappielow.

Thanks to sterling work by David Irons QC, and his team, a reprieve was granted.

'Joy' was confused with relief in the hearts of all true Morton men.

The club had yet again been dying a SLOW AND PAINFUL DEATH until fate saw ex manager Jim McInally move to the greater things deserved by a man of such singular character and integrity, qualities which left the Chairman broken hearted on his departure.

100 miles away, another club was dying on its feet. Its management team was desperate for employment. Serendipitously they applied for the job at Greenock Morton

Belief was gradually instilled into a squad who had apparently deserved the chance to take the club forward, but had proceeded to do exactly the opposite, and at yesterday's trial, that belief was just enough to divide the jury.



It's the cold light of day folks.

NEVER again must we be allowed to get into the mess CAUSED directly by Rae. For him, the not proven verdict was enough to see him brass his way onto the park yesterday, though his lip ultimately tripped him as he was ignored by all who really mattered.

If EVER you will see a sign of thick skinned arrogance, that was it-good gracious-you'd have thought we'd just beaten Glasgow Rangers in the Scottish Cup final. We don't do Scottish Cup finals nowadays, though-- fairy tale stuff like that is NOT for provincial clubs headed up by a Mr Rae!

So it's out with the old and in with the new. What is the future for this club whom some claim is smaller than Kilmarnock, yet can attract almost 3000 bodies to a do or die relegation trial?


One thing is as clear as day to me; David Irons and Derek Collins are proud and principled men. If they are baulked by the Chairman's personality in the same way as previous victims, they will walk away.

I DO believe, however, that we are now on the brink of financial viability which will not result from plundering the limited assets of the golden casket.


I also firmly believe that that THIS is what should be uniting us, as true fans. The time for cow towing to a man who's 'heart's in the right place' has long passed.

In his own words, it is unfortunately a results driven business.
mortonjag 2008-04-28 08:13:40 I was treated in EXACTLY the same way over Jim McInally and Brooks Mileson.

You clearly don't have access to information about the financial goings on over the last season-as I do Tonsilitis. There is a small number of posters who know exactly what I'm talking about, and only the lucky coincidence of Gretna's tumble with ours has saved us from division 2.

HAD WE GONE DOWN, RAE WOULD, JUST LIKE JM, HAVE TURNED TO VILLAIN OVERNIGHT!

Sad to see you associating yourself with the mindless rabble.


I thought you had more substance. sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-07 16:35:20 I was on holiday....

How dare you class me as inept as that buffon
mortonjag 2008-05-07 16:36:40 Buffons the lot of you...

On holiday up north with some excellent friends
mortonjag 2008-05-07 16:37:53 how dare you back to the kitchen wench
mortonjag 2008-05-07 16:38:51 I am not Midtons you idiot

mortonjag 2008-05-16 09:50:15 Just popped back briefly to ask why the last of the four fake posts has not been removed. The Mods claim they know nothing about what they describe as possible 'hacking' of the Jag's account.

Funny how they can wield so much 'power' in some departments, but can't control something as simple as this!

Anyway it would be nice to know what clever Dick was responsible! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-17 08:24:29 How terribly convenient for honest Mr Elliot that a 'bid' has arrived at the eleventh hour-that justifies ALL his mischief! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-17 16:49:30
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ May 17 2008, 02:03 PM) [snapback]448492[/snapback]
MJ - if you need a hand to find out who did it, let me know - I've a Unix admin background and know some pretty good IT people wink.gif

Thanks Santa, but I reckon it wasn't meant to be naughty-certainly not the kind of thing to deserve a five day ban without warning.

More on the innocent level of wishing people slow and painful deaths, expressing disappointment that folk were not so, posting other members' personal details on the board, and attempting to show photos of other posters-innocuous stuff if you will! dry.gif

The Mods would never let that sort of thing pass unchallenged I'd imagine.
mortonjag 2008-05-18 09:19:20
QUOTE(Deego @ May 18 2008, 02:57 AM) [snapback]448712[/snapback]
ur a hevy babe btw wub.gif

Careful child-mischief is not tolerated by Presbyterian Moderators.

I know this-my ex wife's daddy was a COS meenister.
mortonjag 2008-05-18 09:22:55
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 17 2008, 10:19 PM) [snapback]448619[/snapback]
The Mods would never let that sort of thing pass unchallenged I'd imagine.
should we campaign for rockers instead ?

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I never had much time for those Vespas-indiscriminate stinging and all that.


Boozie for moderator! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-19 10:23:20
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 18 2008, 02:32 PM) [snapback]448785[/snapback]
What about careless child-mischief? unsure.gif

That is permitted!
mortonjag 2008-05-19 11:04:00 Salmond has supported a state funded all Muslim school for Glasgow.

Sam Galbraith describes this as a retrograde step.

I thoroughly agree-Bawheid is foolishly pandering to a minority group in the hope of gaining more votes, and will wash his hands of responsibility for halting the process of integration when challenged.

This is the same man who sent out directives to all Universities last autumn demanding to know 'how they would be celebrating St. Andrews' day!

Will he now be demanding to know how they'll be celebrating Ramadan? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-20 05:58:05
QUOTE(Alibi @ May 19 2008, 04:24 PM) [snapback]449215[/snapback]
If all the staff have been sacked, what's left to sell? Only the putative SFL place I asume (and possibly the land but that is in dispute). The only reason for this to be dragged out is the administrator wants even more in fees. Tuna.

Criminal behaviour from start to finish.
mortonjag 2008-05-20 06:10:25
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ May 20 2008, 05:41 AM) [snapback]449449[/snapback]
internet messageboards are a great place to learn about philosophy.


Schools are also great places to learn.
Muslim schools are great places to learn about Allah.
mortonjag 2008-05-20 07:30:12
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 20 2008, 06:43 AM) [snapback]449452[/snapback]
As are Roman Catholic schools great places to learn about God.

Why does you anger towards faith based schools seem to be reserved for Islam?

My anger is reserved for fools like Bawheid who should know better.

Religious people naturally want their children to learn the truth in schools.
mortonjag 2008-05-20 07:32:33
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ May 20 2008, 07:15 AM) [snapback]449454[/snapback]
on a bottle of kids tixylix it says - may cause drowsiness, if affected please dont drive or operate machinery!!!!! hide the electronic crane and the yellow and red bubble car quickly wtf!

I'd stick to the Voddy my dear! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-20 18:17:17
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 20 2008, 09:55 AM) [snapback]449477[/snapback]
I've said several times that I disagree with faith based schools of any religion. I'm firmly of the opinion that religion and all government institutions including education should be completely separate, as they are in France.

Therefore I disagree with the concept of Muslim faith schools as I do Catholic faith schools. But the fact is that we've already got faith schools and it would take a very brave politician indeed to alienate 20% of the electorate to change that. I'm all for conviction politics but in reality it has to be mixed with pragmatism. Any politician advocating the abolision of Catholic faith based schools would also certainly render him or herself unelectable and I don't think anyone would be willing to sacrafice their electability on this one single issue. I'm not agreeing with that or saying it's right, but it's reality and to single out Salmond for criticism on this issue when we've had faith based schools for centuries supported by all parties is disingenuous to say the least.

So given that faith based schools are here, and are almost certainly here to stay, to say that Muslims cannot have them while Jews and Roman Catholics can would be wrong, plain and simple. And I question the motives of those who single out Islam when speaking out against faith based schools. While I have come to expect no better from MJ I had thought more of you David.

Mortonjag was speaking out against that pragmatic myope bawheid, micropenis!

QUOTE(simple_ton @ May 20 2008, 12:16 PM) [snapback]449515[/snapback]
To get back to original topic....

If anyone's that desperate to go to a Muslim school, there are plenty of those schools in Pakistan, Indonesia, Saudi Arabia, in fact numerous countries....fill yer boots!

That is indeed a fact.

QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 20 2008, 02:27 PM) [snapback]449573[/snapback]
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Though many of the Muslims in Pollokshields do send their weans to Catholic schools. ohmy.gif

Correct Mr Bam, and proddy -OOPS-state schools too. As you and I know very well, that's where the majority of forward thinking Muslims will continue to send them anyway! rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 20 2008, 04:25 PM) [snapback]449626[/snapback]
Aw, I like it when we're all pals.

Group hug everyone?

F*ck off ya wannabe weasel.
mortonjag 2008-05-21 08:09:44
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 20 2008, 08:20 PM) [snapback]449706[/snapback]
I meant every word of it.


Though I'm certain you never intended to twist my comments with your usual quasi intelligent gratuitous spin to make me look anti Muslim and racist, Trois Maisons.

Oh and you have NEVER personally abused the Jag, let alone poked fun at him.

I've been officially warned by the Mods for personally abusing you. Hopefully that will make you feel like one of the big boys. laugh.gif


QUOTE(steveoath @ May 20 2008, 10:09 PM) [snapback]449753[/snapback]
And Alex Salmond is a tosser. A face like horse's arse and a voice that would cut cheese. He's obv trying to play the media friendly vote getting angle but could see his party losing ground.

However, politics is like trying to talk to monkeys. It doesn't matter which one you try and speak to, in the end they're all gonna through sh1t at you.

Steve

My monkey despises Bawheid-I keep telling him that even politicians must have some good in them.
mortonjag 2008-05-21 09:32:30
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 21 2008, 08:14 AM) [snapback]449851[/snapback]
Doesn't make me feel anything, I just hope you heed the warning. rolleyes.gif

Well I did point out to the Mods that you had openly admitted to being a dwarf. The term 'micropenis' was therefore, anatomically correct-assuming you are proportioned normally, but I apologise profusely if I caused offence. I do understand that some people are very precious about their willies.

As to the 'wannabe weasel'-again I apologise for any offence, though I'd comment that the successful members of the weasel family thrive on killing their intended prey.

Personal abuse my friend, is only abusive if it is intended to hurt. I had believed that Trois Maisons could take as well give! sad.gif

mortonjag 2008-05-21 09:54:25 While Gordon Brown, the Prime Minister, and Nick Clegg, the Liberal Democrat leader, had been expected to vote to keep the 24-week limit, David Cameron, the Conservative leader, and Alex Salmond, the First Minister, indicated beforehand they were due to vote to lower it to 22 weeks.


It's amazing the depths folks will plumb to court the minority vote at public expense. I've never been in favour of abortion except in extreme situations-many of which, by their very nature are not fully manifest in the earlier stages of pregnancy. There's no point in having a dog and barking yourself Bawheid-listen to the medical advice-you are, after all, a mere layman.
mortonjag 2008-05-21 14:23:58
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 21 2008, 10:30 AM) [snapback]449879[/snapback]
My dwarfism is hardly justification for personal abuse MJ and I'm sorry you didn't see fit to heed the warning of the Moderator on this subject by repeating it.

I wouldn't dream of deliberately abusing anybody on the basis of unwanted pathology. In that respect it would be helpful to know if indeed you regard your lack of inches as an illness, or for that matter a disadvantage.

You see, I never believed that you did, but your recent behaviour has me wondering.

If I have said anything in the slightest remotely offensive in this post, I apologise in advance.
mortonjag 2008-05-21 14:39:46
QUOTE(Alibi @ May 21 2008, 12:08 PM) [snapback]449920[/snapback]
Rubbish. You just don't seem to comprehend that in some things he agrees with the Tories, on others with Labour or Lib Dems. He decides on a basis of what is good for Scotland (or to be fair, what he considers to be good for Scotland).

MJ just likes attacking Alex salmond at every opportunity. It's getting a bit predictable
...

So were his attacks on McInally and Mileson, if I recall! So are his attacks on the man 'whose heart's in the right place'! sad.gif

QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 21 2008, 01:21 PM) [snapback]449970[/snapback]
I'd agree with most of that. Salmond does have one thing in common with Paisley - they both profess loyalty to royalty. biggrin.gif

I'd suggest that Bawheid aspires to Royalty. He's probably already done the dummy run at Scone.

Queen Moira the First doesn't ring true- that's also in keeping with the young pretender's blabberings.
mortonjag 2008-05-21 14:40:55
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 21 2008, 02:07 PM) [snapback]449994[/snapback]
I think the SNP was only left of centre for very brief periods in its history. Some of its foundations and roots in the old NPS and SHRA were certainly leftist, notably the likes of 'Hughie' Grieve, Gallacher, Johnston, Muirhead, Maxton and all, but they were mostly put out of the picture when the parties merged with the rightists in the Scottish Party. There was certainly a left of centre shift in the 80's with MacDonald and Sillars but this was shortlived as well. I've always doubted Eck's credentials - I think he was expelled for being a bit of a lefty in the early 80's but joined up again a year later, presumably after some 're-education'. Say what you like about Eck though, he's certainly a highly skilled politician, adept at knowing which way the wind blows, and then following it.

up Soapy's arse.
mortonjag 2008-05-21 14:53:28 I notice that some £2000 was raised at the recent Sportsman's dinner, and I've just read this in the Tilly-


The 5-2 scoreline was a moot point, as a fantastic day was had all round, with over £2,500 being raised for Morton Youth Development. Amidst a pitch invasion at the final whistle, Morton manager Davie Irons said: “It is a great occasion for the support to be able to come and play at Cappielow. The club would benefit from more things like this, it was very well organised and it is great to meet the support, and encourage new fans to come down to the ground.

In view of the recent confusion and controversy about our fragmented Youth Policy, I'm wondering if the huge efforts of so many achieve their intended goal.

What actually happens to those moneys once they are raised-are they simply handed over in good faith to the Club-aka Mr Rae, or are they overseen by the Trust, and specifically disbursed on Youth Development?

mortonjag 2008-05-21 14:57:55 The 'small number of quality players' we were promised must surely be nestling on the back burner.
mortonjag 2008-05-21 15:00:41
QUOTE(maccaboy @ May 21 2008, 02:58 PM) [snapback]450022[/snapback]
here we go - got a helluva feeling of deja vu (or did someone just say that??) dry.gif

That is not an answer to my legitimate question.
mortonjag 2008-05-21 15:10:52
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 21 2008, 02:38 PM) [snapback]450008[/snapback]
MJ I have no absolutely no intention of discussing my medical condition or how it affects me on a public forum with you.

Please drop the subject.

Very well.

Remember the old saying about sauce for the goose, my friend, and don't be asking the Jag any more personal questions about mental illness.

Incidentally Mortonjag stands a full five feet one and a half inches, or did in the days when those things seemed to matter. sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-21 15:14:10
QUOTE(xj2006 @ May 21 2008, 03:05 PM) [snapback]450027[/snapback]
I am happy with the signings so far

what do we expect for a first division club?

So am I.

Just wondering when the small number of quality players will arrive.
mortonjag 2008-05-21 15:16:55
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 21 2008, 03:04 PM) [snapback]450025[/snapback]
Great time indeed. Madame Fifi says to say hello to you et votre grand zizi (whatever that means).
I don't care indeed. People's sexuality is their own affair.

Consenting adults in private?
mortonjag 2008-05-21 15:21:20 Just tried to check those details Mr Edwards, but 'fraid I can't come up with the information.
mortonjag 2008-05-21 15:26:25

Salmond's a tory alriight
if you talk tripe and it looks tripe then it f'cking is tripe

he is no Tory!

[/quote]
That is probably quite fair, and he's CERTAINLY no socialist. I'd hardly describe him as a liberal either-more of an independent if you will, which kind of brings us full circle to the fact that once elected he completely lost the plot.
mortonjag 2008-05-21 15:29:11
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 21 2008, 01:13 PM) [snapback]449962[/snapback]
Ok so why is it crossing the road then??

[attachment=4003:Chicken.jpg]

For some fowl reason.

Oh and BTW that is NOT a chicken-it's a c**k

Size matters!
mortonjag 2008-05-21 15:41:19
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 21 2008, 03:28 PM) [snapback]450045[/snapback]
Watch out Mentaljag, Edinton aka 'Careful or I'll close down this thread' might be after you. tongue.gif

Edinton is a good chap-the thread was locked to protect Mortonjag-anyway I now have the information you require if you'll just bear with me-damn it-will nothing I do stand up to scrutiny? sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-21 15:43:49 sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-21 15:49:45 I can't actually remember my first match. Hal Stewart had just arrived, and we'd been the joke of Scottish football for several seasons. Hal was always a showman-he knew how to pull in the crowds, and my first memory was of the unveiling of the new goalkeeper labelled by the press as 'The man in black'.

Erik Sorensen subsequently inherited that title but the original man in black was an Irish goalie by the name of Finbarr Flood.
mortonjag 2008-05-21 15:54:44
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 21 2008, 03:23 PM) [snapback]450041[/snapback]
Mate, I will be there. I have every confidence that you will make it to wink.gif Me I have been doing some light training over the last month or two and am playing a lot more footy with my son again. I am going to keep it up now so i will def be a lot fitter next year. After all we have to impart all out experience and knowledge to those young whippersnappers on the park laugh.gif

You can't blame the poor whippersnappers for being young-that is NOT PC.
mortonjag 2008-05-21 15:58:06
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 21 2008, 03:56 PM) [snapback]450065[/snapback]
Jeezo, it's bedtime tory time again.

Are you sitting comfortably-then I'll begin! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-21 16:02:18
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 21 2008, 03:51 PM) [snapback]450063[/snapback]
Erm.... I'll pass on that if you don't mind. Maybe CHC can call you megapenis from now on. laugh.gif

Droopy dick might be more appropriate but now he's gone and spoiled it all.

Anyway, when I was in my prime my erect willie was no less than three inches






















































WIDE
mortonjag 2008-05-21 16:04:16
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 21 2008, 04:00 PM) [snapback]450067[/snapback]
I'll pass on that one as well. I'm running oot the door as i tyyyyyypppppe

You could have mopped it up like I do!
mortonjag 2008-05-21 16:07:27
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 21 2008, 04:04 PM) [snapback]450069[/snapback]
Too much information (in every sense).

I didn't mean to offend you-please accept my grovelling apology-anyway I lied!
mortonjag 2008-05-21 16:11:40
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 21 2008, 04:06 PM) [snapback]450076[/snapback]
laugh.gif Who wants to be PC?? Not me anyway. Whippersnappers they are and whippersnappers they will remain tongue.gif

P.S. To the whippersnappers, the term is not meant to be derogotary bye the way wink.gif

I never fancied joining the polis either-I was far too wee for a start. If I had mind you, I'd have tobered up all whippersnappers-but especially those young ones. They'd sure have got a taste of my truncheon.
mortonjag 2008-05-21 18:06:26
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ May 21 2008, 04:45 PM) [snapback]450095[/snapback]
The time to get answers for legitimate questions was at the Port Glasgow Town Hall and you bottled that chance so tell valid as it may be, me who from on here are you expecting to answer your question?

Really-then I'll refer you to Toby and Chrissiboi with that one! laugh.gif

QUOTE(LargsTON @ May 21 2008, 05:01 PM) [snapback]450105[/snapback]
Any need for that. It's a very valid point and one I'd like answered.


One person agrees with me at least! wink.gif


QUOTE(maccaboy @ May 21 2008, 05:36 PM) [snapback]450127[/snapback]
my answer, then, is this - whatever you think of the Raes ( and that has been made painfully obvious), they are professional businessmen who are used to running not just Morton FC but a considerable larger enterprise.

They will be well aware of the due diligences they must adhere to and the accountability that they have with regard to how monies within their companies are allocated and spent, ESPECIALLY monies raised in such a way as this, and we have no reason to doubt that they will adhere to these criteria.

Sitting on the sidelines and making this sort of snide comment - instead of taking the opportunity that you had to make your points face to face with the men themselves, but declined to do - serves no constructive purpose and you should desist for the benefit of all concerned, not least the long-suffering readership of this board.

If you have any concrete evidence of wrongdoing or misappropriation of money by the board of MFC, then come on, let's see it. If not, then give us all peace, man, and get a life.



You have NOT answered my question. You have simply stated what YOU believe the Raes do and don't do, without citing a crumb of supportive evidence other than the usual sycophantic sh*te about Golden Casket being a 'large enterprise' when it's only a wee sweetie factory run by an old sweetie wife.

I resent your twisting of my legitimate question to incorporate 'snide comment', and 'wrongdoing and misappropriation by the board'. Those thoughts came from your fanciful cranium-not mine. I merely posed a very serious question which many are asking but perhaps a bit shy about posting.

Now to the 'long suffering readership of this board'-yes indeed my friend- seven years IS a long time to suffer the megalomanic self indulgences of a man who in my opinion-BACKED BY EVIDENCE which I will not publish here, but which is shared by several other respected posters, is now the one thing which is preventing Greenock Morton FC from moving onwards.

Finally, I've made it clear in the past who I am, and may I assure you that I am well aware of the due diligences, and accountability I have when I make allegations on this forum.

Would you care to do the same, or do you prefer to hide up Mr Rae's arse? ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-21 18:24:26
QUOTE(Alibi @ May 21 2008, 12:14 PM) [snapback]449923[/snapback]
It gets worse. I've had a communication from the administrator, marked private and confidential so I'm not about to reveal the contents here, but I am about to go ballistic when the adminstrator calls to discuss it.

It simply says 'Best wishes from off the Bahamas....... Brooks, David, and the daily llama xxx'.
mortonjag 2008-05-21 18:26:37
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 21 2008, 05:27 PM) [snapback]450122[/snapback]
Well obviously size matters , watched a lady trying to Park her car at Tesco's lets just say she didn't look as if she was with esure insurance ( 3 years no claims I would hardly think so ).

She should have pushed the seat back a bit further!
mortonjag 2008-05-21 18:31:28
QUOTE(maccaboy @ May 21 2008, 05:43 PM) [snapback]450129[/snapback]
we'll be at these albumen night now.......

hatchet man chopped off mitosis
mortonjag 2008-05-21 18:34:02
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 21 2008, 06:29 PM) [snapback]450143[/snapback]
normal service is resumed sad.gif sad.gif

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mortonjag 2008-05-21 18:40:03
QUOTE(maccaboy @ May 21 2008, 06:33 PM) [snapback]450146[/snapback]
1. I stated what I believe - and that's all that YOU did, ain't it??!! And you did so without, to quote you, ' a crumb of supportive evidence'. If you have such evidence, then put up - or shut up.
Thankfully, my opinion is level-headed and even-handed, and far from being sycophantic sh*te. Tho I , WILL say that "that old sweetie wife", as you refer to him, has done a lot better for himself than you or Iand as such is in all likelihood better equipped to run MFC, AND to run it in the right way as far as accountability for funds, etc, is concerned.

2. Read your original post again - it's "snide comment" to a T. And you posted a legitimate question in a cynically biased and slanted way, as is your wont when it comes to the Raes; hence my "deja vu" comment.

3. Read my post again - I made absolutely no refernce to who you are, who you aren't who you might want to someday become. You could be Napoleon for all I care (aye, and like him I bet you often feel a right tit) - but if you're suffering an identity crisis keep it to yourself. I know the comments that have been doing the rounds here about your identity, but don't flatter yourself that I'm interested, I couldn't give a gnat's chuff who you are and it's a rather pompous assumption of yours to think that I do.

4. As for your final point, you seem to assume that all of those who don't agree with you are somehow i thrall to DDFR and kowtow to him at every opportunity. NOT the case; if I think he deserves criticism then I'll give it - but only when there are legitimate grounds, and I won't use a news article to cast aspersions about the man. And, incidentally, what is, quote, "do you prefer to hide up Mr Rae's arse?" if not a snide, uncalled for and personal comment which you have absolutely no grounds for making?

The defence rests. I'm going home now for some peace. Somebody else can take a shot at rattling your cage - there are plenty here that enjoy doing it.

I thought you were being serious. It's nice to know you were only attempting to rattle my cage.

I do, however, take exception to the assumption you make as highlighted. I'm desperately sorry that you can't hold a candle to the great man. Please don't assume all are in the same boat. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-21 18:49:05
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ May 21 2008, 06:39 PM) [snapback]450156[/snapback]
Welcome back mortonjag! laugh.gif

Thank you my little bugger-btw did you get my pm a few days back? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-21 18:56:54
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 21 2008, 05:32 PM) [snapback]450126[/snapback]
As long as we now know that you don't have a problem with Tory party members taking drugs and paying for sex with young women and men.

Thanks for clearing that up Mr McB ohmy.gif



Did he have to pay for the drugs or was he exempt from prescription charges Spurtle. He'd sure have loved wee Nickerless's new broom.

As for the sex, you've got to hand it to those Tories-they don't believe in free handouts.
mortonjag 2008-05-21 19:00:18
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 21 2008, 06:53 PM) [snapback]450165[/snapback]
I wonder if anyone has made a bid for that lucky horseshoe

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FFS that brings back memories of my early comments about Gretna only being fit for runaway weddings!
mortonjag 2008-05-21 19:08:50
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ May 21 2008, 06:59 PM) [snapback]450171[/snapback]
From The Herald

"Turnover climbed 16% to £16.3m in calendar 2006, which Rae attributed to "increasing our business through existing customers rather than acquiring many new ones". Pre-tax profits climbed from £1.23m in 2005 to £1.44m."

Sounds like a wee sweetie factory doesnt it ?? 16.3m Turnover in 2006

Change the record ya old fool


Edit to add

I would actually like to see how the money we raise is spent and would be nice for the club to show us what our money was being invested in


Don't you know my good friend that today we are avoiding personal insults you youthful savant!

In the confectionery world it is indeed a very small enterprise, as I have pointed out repeatedly. That it has taken Mr Rae all his life to reach that pinnacle of success-I believe he is now 77- is indeed remarkable! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-21 19:13:44
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 21 2008, 07:07 PM) [snapback]450174[/snapback]
alas cassandra sad.gif

Alaska Sandra was married in Newfoundland Trumpet.
mortonjag 2008-05-21 19:18:00
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 21 2008, 07:14 PM) [snapback]450181[/snapback]
clearly not completely senile laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif sad.gif

Clearly is 53.
mortonjag 2008-05-21 19:29:38
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 21 2008, 07:23 PM) [snapback]450188[/snapback]
are you drunk or stupid?

Neither my dear, and hadn't you noticed we're avoiding personal abuse today!

Suffer the little children to come unto me, and forbid them not, for of such is the kingdom of heaven.

Jesus said that BTW.
mortonjag 2008-05-21 19:38:51
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ May 21 2008, 07:26 PM) [snapback]450189[/snapback]
Scotland's biggest independent sweet manufacturer - Yeah he is a small enterprise

And why do you belittle the mans life work - I think building a company that turns over 16.3m a year is quite an achievement

I dont mind seeing you pointing out valid faults of the Raes but sometimes you have a go and make fun of them just for the sake of it

You are a boring and predictable sad old man who seems to have a personal grudge against the Rae's

Well MortonHag we have heard it all before , why dont you dissapear for a while again and give us all peace

I appreciate that son, but bear in mind you're the same age as my youngest child, and my oldest who's still only thirty one is heading up three businesses with a turnover of several million. He started off less than four years ago.

I'm not in any way belittling Mr Rae's undoubted achievement-not many folk have the energy in their late seventies to knock their pans in every day God sends, and I do hope he has a long and enjoyable retirement when it comes.

Things must be seen in perspective young man-that is all!
mortonjag 2008-05-21 19:39:46
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 21 2008, 07:28 PM) [snapback]450190[/snapback]
happy birthday, clearly

His birthday was two weeks ago.
mortonjag 2008-05-21 19:43:35
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 21 2008, 07:32 PM) [snapback]450193[/snapback]
Alaska Sandra was indeed married in Newfoundland

That is extremely true.
mortonjag 2008-05-21 19:45:40
QUOTE(LargsTON @ May 21 2008, 07:39 PM) [snapback]450196[/snapback]
That should of course have said "pilates." tongue.gif

pilots? to tug you in?
mortonjag 2008-05-22 06:34:40
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 21 2008, 07:48 PM) [snapback]450201[/snapback]
come on boys, i'm sure your imaginations aren't so 'small'

Guess they were watching the Champions League Final Trumpet-pity about the Terry's All Gold penalty-I thought the pensioners thoroughly deserved it.

Some will simply see this as size matters.
mortonjag 2008-05-22 06:36:30
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 21 2008, 07:45 PM) [snapback]450199[/snapback]
Jesus said it BTW

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Welcome back!

How's the faithers' sweetie factory BTW?
mortonjag 2008-05-22 06:46:36 I sincerely believe that women should be allowed to play if they can demonstrate that they are good enough. I think the same should apply to Rugby League-indeed even to the 'world's Strongest man' contest.

I have absolutely no problem with the Sheila's wheels enterprise-I find their policies are very competitive, and my also named driver, Granny Fanny Aitken has never had an accident in 94 years apart from the seven weans and the chip pan fire.
mortonjag 2008-05-22 06:53:52
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 21 2008, 10:49 PM) [snapback]450256[/snapback]
Aye, to err is human, to make an arse of yourself is Devine.

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QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 21 2008, 11:49 PM) [snapback]450287[/snapback]
I'm sure that piece of s*** and excuse for a human being Laidlaw was enjoying himself whilst plying the young men and women with drink and drugs before sexually abusing them.


I doubt very much if they were enjoying the experience as he undoubtaby did going by the frequent trips he made to Monte Carlo. And I also doubt very much Laidlaw gave them a second thought or cared what they felt for that matter.

You really get very worked up about some things Spurtle!

Your second paragraph probably applies to 75% of sexually active males worldwide!

It's nice to know that Mrs Spurtle comes in a different category. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-22 07:19:51
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 22 2008, 12:57 AM) [snapback]450310[/snapback]
Then why has Jim McColls name been heralded as the man in charge ? According to the club he was incharge if you are saying you can't believe everything the club puts out then that validates this thread even more so .
Look at it from a neutral point of view , he is listed of the head of our pro - youth or was which at best is not on a par with similar clubs our size ( see being really nice without going into my usual rant ) he freely admits to having no prior knowledge of running such a set up , he is also on the board to represent the Trust .

Now do you not think it was a huge error of judgement for the guy to put his name to something when he has little or no knowledge of that organisation .

Do you not think that the representative on the board from the Trust should be asking question on behalf of supporters why this thing occurred nevermind him being apart of it .

Do you not think it puts the Trust in a negative light when the representative is seen at the head of this system .

Jim McColl , who as far as I know has never pretended to be an expert in running the set up , so did he volunteer ? or was he asked ? How did he attain this position .
I would say that no matter how he became involved it does but another question mark for me about the chairmans decision making .

Its all to easy to blame McInally , he had an assistant who could have done a similar role as to what Derek Collins proposes to do .

I have never met Jim McColl and assume he's a thoroughly decent guy who admirably fulfils his figurehead status.

The re-vamped board now consists of Steptoe and Son, the said figurehead, and the ubiquitous Alistair Donald who appears to say even less than the figurehead, but was quoted in Shoogly's mouthpiece, many months back as 'being there in an advisory capacity', and 'I won't be investing at this stage'! wink.gif

Alistair Donald is apparently an EXTREMELY astute businessman, and don't imagine he'd be bothered with petty wheeling and dealing of the Scott genre.

What's the score folks? unsure.gif


mortonjag 2008-05-22 07:40:44 Middle managers could go and savings of £50m found from its budget as Scotland's largest local authority begins its financial planning against a backdrop of economic uncertainty.

For the first time, Glasgow City Council is publishing its financial forecast for the next two years and is seeking the input of all political groups to better explain the economic climate it is operating in.

In all, it will cut £25m, or 2.5%, from its budgets across each of the next two financial years to balance the books, beginning its planning nine months before the budget is published.
mortonjag 2008-05-22 09:17:31
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 22 2008, 08:44 AM) [snapback]450344[/snapback]
75% of the population don't ply young men and women who trade as prostitutes with drink and drugs then defile them.

The Tory Party know all about Laidlaw, but are quite happy to take his donations and quite happy to turn a blind eye to the exploitation of those men and women.

Then you have the complete hypocrisy of Tory Tom going on about Souter..... blink.gif

Spurtle, I don't think we're exactly talking about those poor wee souls down Anderston way-the Christine Keelers and Mandy Rice Davises have always been there and happy to exploit the amorality of high profile politicians of all parties.

Now let me say categorically that I'm making no allegations here, but if I discovered that Mr Salmond regularly paid rent boys a handsome fee, it would surprise me none.

Nor would it surprise me if he has only had one sexual partner throughout his existence.

Which do you suspect is more probable-if either? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-22 09:20:35
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ May 22 2008, 08:54 AM) [snapback]450345[/snapback]
and next your going to explain to us how its all Dougie Rae's fault, whoever you are tongue.gif

Don't be ridiculous-Rae's cowboy outfit is much smaller than the Provost's.
mortonjag 2008-05-22 10:21:39
QUOTE(AyrAndy @ May 22 2008, 10:14 AM) [snapback]450361[/snapback]
Dean has signed on at Somerset Park after a succesful loan period last season.

Joining him at Somerset are new signings, Scott Walker (Brechin), Scott Agnew (Alloa), Bryan Prunty (Airdrie), Ryan Borris (Raith), Chris Aitken (Stirling) and Allan Dempsie (Elgin).

Still on the lookout for a new keeper, thank f*ck it won't be McGurn

Good luck to the Deano-more sinned against than sinning!
mortonjag 2008-05-22 11:17:59
QUOTE(The Bewilderedbeast @ May 21 2008, 06:31 PM) [snapback]450144[/snapback]
Neil?

Yes it is a great shame that the situation has not changed, and I accept your thoughts on who should go to who, however, as you will be aware the situation regarding the unsold tickets for last seasons cup game at Annan was totally whitewashed by the Club. When a junior team can be gracious enough to offer us a third of the money (when it wasn't really their problem) and our own Club dismiss the idea out of hand it leaves a sour taste.
Bascialy, if the Club had agreed to refund £100 this situation would not have arisen, indeed had our letter received a reply, the situation may not have arisen.

There are of course several other "incidents" when the Club did not exactly cover themselves in glory ("incidents" old and new) which have also contributed to the decision to maintain our withdrawal of sponsorship. I do not intend to air these "incidents" on here. but I think that the refund issue is generally widely known.




'The Club' as everyone knows but some refuse to admit = DDFR.

QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ May 21 2008, 09:43 PM) [snapback]450237[/snapback]
Unfortunatley that aint ever gonna happen , Certain people at the club too stubborn to admit they were wrong .

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QUOTE(Patg @ May 21 2008, 11:03 PM) [snapback]450261[/snapback]
This lack of refunding of £100 has now cost the club thousands...
The PR at the club is non -exisentent ...
Maybe appointing a Fans Liason officer to be the go between would be a good idea

But as Ronnie says to many other things have been said and done that have made feelings between a very loyal group of fans and the Morton hierarchy very very raw..
And also as Scott said there are certain people at the club being very stubborn and in my opinion very rude and ignorant ..
I know these people read this website so if they have there version to give please feel free to reply on here or on youre own website ...
A few other members of our club who normally take groups of friends in to hospitality a few times a season have been boycotting as well ...

So you guys can do there sums refusing a £100 refund has cost Morton football club 10 grand+ and counting ...

Pat G
Ton Till I Die

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mortonjag 2008-05-22 11:24:59
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 22 2008, 11:11 AM) [snapback]450395[/snapback]
Transparency is what is called for . As was posted on this site about the total monies raised and expenditure for the supporters match .

I cannot see why the club would not accomadate the Trust or supporters associations like the Gourock who seem to do alot of good fundraising for the benefit of the club .

I honestly can't see where the problem is in doing this , although when it comes to the youth set up the club seems to think its all too much effort .

(Away for a lay down before I go on rant mode yet again rolleyes.gif )

Not very good with those photographic terms-is that the same as exposure?
mortonjag 2008-05-22 11:32:30
QUOTE(Alibi @ May 22 2008, 10:34 AM) [snapback]450369[/snapback]
I have a copy of an offer in front of me but it is confidential at the moment. I do however feel that the administrators may be going to try to bounce the creditors into accepting another rip-off, to put it mildly. This may not be unconnected with the fact that the SPL were paying Wilson Field huge sums of money to keep the ball rolling, but the money tap was turned off on Saturday as the SPL season had finished (apart from the extension for a few teams due to exceptional circumstances). Wilson Field won't want this matter to continue any longer than necessary now because their cash cow is now several pounds of mince, and there is no money to pay any more fees that they may accrue.

I have made my views known to Mr Elliot and suggested to him an alternative course of action that would mean a much bigger payout to creditors - any payout would be bigger than nothing. I believe he is duty bound to consider all the options although any decision is I think a matter for decision at a full meeting of all the creditors, which meeting requires a minimum of 14 days' notice. If apathy rules then they may get away with it, but if a reasonable number of creditors are prepared to make their views known, then it may be to their advantage financially.

As I have said all along, this whole business stinks to high heaven.

Edited to add: I have been told that one of Craig Mileson's friends on facebook is...... Paul Davies. Now there's a coincidence.

I said from the outset you were being 'raped'. It doesn't feel very pleasant, does it, especially when everybody else seems to be standing aside and watching it happen with a glaicet leer!

You know something Alibi-sometimes the only way to deal with c*nts like that is by taking the law into your own hands-they understand those things better I can assure you. Just be careful to cover your tracks. They understand that too.
mortonjag 2008-05-22 11:36:47
QUOTE(jackton @ May 22 2008, 10:51 AM) [snapback]450384[/snapback]
I used to play football for a ladies team (many years ago when it wasn't so readily accepted), and also played 5 a-sides with guys in my work. They quite enjoyed having a couple of young, slim (back then) females run around with them! (Except one guy, nicknamed "Rawmeat" who hated the thought of girlies being able to compete and broke the ankle of the other girl). Thoroughly enjoyed both but entirely different experiences. I'll probably get shot down by all the womens rights people for this but I don't think women should play 11 a-side in the same team as men. There are some very talented women out there and playing amongst men, with their greater body mass/ physical strength could stiffle their ability. Not saying women can't play as well as men, but you need to compare like with like.

Next point... women expecting to be paid the same as men for doing the same job... I worked in a male dominated enviroment and got paid more than most of them because I was better at the job than they were!! Heaven forbid!

Last point.... I would love to stay at home as a homemaker/housewife but I'm not allowed... Him indoors just won't hear of it otherwise I could sit on this forum all day.

Him indoors claims otherwise-the poor sod hardly posts now-up to his eyes in nappies, dishes, shopping, ironing etc., while you gad aboot the work! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-22 11:42:59
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 22 2008, 10:31 AM) [snapback]450366[/snapback]
No prostitute is in that particular game because they enjoy it. Laidlaw totally exlpoited them for his own sexual gratification.
But the Tories don't care about the Laidlaw's of this world. They only see the Laidlaws £millions coming into the party coffers. Then have the effrontery to point the finger at others who are not even in the same gutter league as Laidlaw !

You've clearly been meeting with the unhappy ones Spurtle!

As the guy who ran the Partick Pumping Station used to say 'Some folk think it's just sh*te, but it's my bread and butter'! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-22 11:47:35
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ May 22 2008, 11:20 AM) [snapback]450401[/snapback]
Interesting comment. But if one of the other mob had suggested the same, referring to the good Bishop Devine would it have been as funny to a man of your faith? I have no axe to grind either way, but you cannae have it both ways.

John Knox did not live in those enlightened days, nor did he have a handsome Bishopric to maintain.
mortonjag 2008-05-22 11:50:54 Will you be sporting a green P? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-22 11:54:36
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 22 2008, 11:52 AM) [snapback]450421[/snapback]
No, i have green L plates. And i intend doing the pass plus.

Excellent-I do have to say that young women of your age appear more mature than the male counterpart.
mortonjag 2008-05-22 12:06:19
QUOTE(Greacenonmyass @ May 22 2008, 11:30 AM) [snapback]450406[/snapback]
As you cannnot be fully aware of the circumstances behind this incident, how can you be in full agreement? Just a cheap swipe at 'certain people' at Morton in my view. mad.gif

Just a cheap swipe at Mr Rae don't you mean?

Not the sort of thing he's used to, the poor old soldier.
mortonjag 2008-05-22 12:12:00 Despite his great end to the season, I'd be quite happy to see Kev go to pastures new-particularly if 'the club' is playing silly buggers with him.

Funny how just when Kev decided he was a striker, the Tilly labels him a 'pacey winger' or was that supposed to be whinger?

Good luck to the boy either way.
mortonjag 2008-05-22 12:14:23
QUOTE(Greacenonmyass @ May 22 2008, 12:08 PM) [snapback]450433[/snapback]
Publc knowledge on a messageboard? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif You mean hear say!

You mean 'hearsay' Muz.
mortonjag 2008-05-22 12:22:26
QUOTE(jackton @ May 22 2008, 11:57 AM) [snapback]450428[/snapback]
And another thing... I called Diamond Insurance (for women) many years ago, they were a bit pricey and when I commented on it the bloke said if I could get a man on my policy it would bring it down a bit!! Cheek!

Dear Mortonjag,
Him indoors has an allergy to whatever nappies are made from, washing up liquid, soap powder, ironing boards, hoovers, polish etc (and rubber gloves)... is there anything you could prescibe for him?

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I've discovered that those specific allergies are infinitely more prevalent in the male.I suspect it's in the genes! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-22 12:24:57
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 22 2008, 12:06 PM) [snapback]450432[/snapback]
You don't get it. Soapy has a problem with what consenting adults do in their own chambers, that's really immoral.
Tartan rubber!

Scotland, twinned wie Saudi Arabia.

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mortonjag 2008-05-22 12:49:18
QUOTE(maccaboy @ May 22 2008, 12:19 PM) [snapback]450440[/snapback]
Why? Here's the last line from MJ of the message I was responding to:- "Would you care to do the same, or do you prefer to hide up Mr Rae's arse?"

Would YOU accept that from the old duffer without responding appropriately (and do it without resorting to personal slurs, as I managed to do)?

'Nuff said, end of.

You have not answered my question-I merely asked!

Now to calling respectable posters 'old duffer'-I'd describe that as personal abuse, though I'd never dream of whinging to the Mods about it.

If you have facts and information to contradict any of the statements I have ever made openly and not anonymously about Mr Rae, it would be good to hear them, along with your identity. I have a significant quantity of private information to support every allegation I have ever made. That is kept private to protect confidentiality, though it may interest you to know that I regularly share p.m.'s with over twenty others-many of whom, for one or another reason, cannot be so forthright on this forum.

I think the majority of posters is coming round to the idea that 'the club' is stagnating, and clearly needs substantial inward investment before David Irons loses heart under the present regime.

Mortonjag is happy to see the clingons gradually dig themselves deeper into the sh*t. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-22 12:57:08
QUOTE(Alibi @ May 22 2008, 12:42 PM) [snapback]450454[/snapback]
I wouldn't descend to their level.

I fully understand and respect that, but that is the mentality/morality on which those plankton thrive.

It is their bible Alibi-in a devious way you'd get more respect from them if you paid for a couple of 'hits' and couldn't be impeached.

Rape would never be inevitable if all ladies carried guns!
mortonjag 2008-05-22 13:07:53
QUOTE(InverAlly @ May 22 2008, 01:04 PM) [snapback]450465[/snapback]

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somebody having an identity crisis? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-22 13:10:42
QUOTE(Patg @ May 22 2008, 12:43 PM) [snapback]450456[/snapback]
Just to give some people who dont know what happened I will tell you about what happened regarding what happened regarding tkt refund incident ...

A memember of our travel club returned £300 of tkts from the Annan game and according to people at the club he was to late to return them and refuse to refund us the £300 to us which is a lot of money to a small travel club ...

We then contacted Annan with regarding what had happened they said they would forward us £100 as long as Morton did the same and we took a hit of £100 which reluctently agreed to but Morton refused to give us a £100 and refused to bring it up at board level ...

Annan sent us £100 which we returned and thanked them and told them to donate it to there youth set up which they did sent us a letter of thanks for our kind donation ...

We imformed Morton of what Annan had done and still no refund ...

We have lots of correspondence from Morton which we felt was getting worse and worse so at our AGM after that year the incident was discussed nd the boycott was decided ...

We imformed the club regarding the boycott and they replied by return that as we were boycotting we had therefore cut all our ties with the club ...

We now have hospitallity days in Slanj which anyone is welcome to join and it is a fantastic day for a fraction of the price ..

As I said in my previous post we have few members who normally take up to 10 friends or more to hospitallity on a regular basis they nowvalso stopped going ...

So to conclude the club of now lost roughly 10 grand+ and counting all over £100 ...

If anyone wants anymore detail please pm me and i will ty to answer there question if I can ....

Pat G
Ton Till I Die



I think you've spelled it out very clearly Pat-thanks. Rae has an almost unparalleled ability to shoot himself in the foot while biting off the hand that feeds him.

No apologies to the mixed metaphor polis either.
mortonjag 2008-05-22 14:11:35
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 22 2008, 01:56 PM) [snapback]450490[/snapback]
From the French "Chambre"- a room. rolleyes.gif

Oui Monsieur le Bam je compris!


The rectum, or lowest chamber of the large bowel, is about eight inches long and serves, basically, as a warehouse for jobby. It hooks up with the sigmoid colon to the north and with the anal canal to the south.

The rectum has little shelves in it called transverse folds. These folds help keep stool in place until you're ready to go to the bathroom. When you're ready, stool enters the lower rectum, moves into the anal canal, and then passes through the anus on its way out-after which it's laissez faire! sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-22 14:16:30
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 22 2008, 01:58 PM) [snapback]450492[/snapback]
Happy Birthday all including baldy

You have been duly reported to the big Polis mod for non PC behaviour-I hope you feel the full weight of his truncheon.
mortonjag 2008-05-22 14:30:07
QUOTE(maccaboy @ May 22 2008, 01:12 PM) [snapback]450472[/snapback]
1. That wasn't a question, it was personal abuse.
2. That wasn't personal abuse, it was a statement of fact. tongue.gif
3. Errr, who whinged to the Mods? Not me, so what's your point, caller? Naah, don't bother answering, there isn't one, you're a Jag without a point.
4. Here we go again with the "I have the facts and information but have to keep them confidential" - if you can't disclose your info, then kindly stop alluding to it; anyone can make allegations and slanted comments but, without anything being made available to substantiate them, then as I said yesterday it amounts to little more than piss and wind.
5. hmm, first it was remarks about Dougie Rae's erse, now it's remarks about clingons digging into the sh*t - you're coming across as a potty-mouthed old bore with an anal fixation.
6. Since you are privy (pardon the pun!) to so many of life's secrets, please tell us - who really shot JFK??

DDFR, maybe?? ohmy.gif

Well, trying to joke your way out of the hole you just dug is at least a wee bit more intelligent than the usual clingon response.

The fact is son (does that sound patronising or what?) that I was repeatedly verbally abused by much wittier and more intelligent posters than you in my early days of criticising Mileson, McInally, AND Rae.

Fortunately the sharper tools in the box are now at the master craftsman's disposal!

Just one final point-despite your wee sticky oot tongue-I DID only pose a question.

Calling a man of my qualifications, experience, and incredibly superior intelligence an 'old duffer' I'd suggest is similar to calling Auld Shoogly a Fudgy Wudgy.
mortonjag 2008-05-22 14:34:43
QUOTE(InverAlly @ May 22 2008, 01:11 PM) [snapback]450471[/snapback]
Shut it Jim... laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-05-22 14:40:37
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ May 22 2008, 01:51 PM) [snapback]450487[/snapback]
The post from Pat quite obviously states that the issue was not brought up at boardroom level, so surely Rae would not have had any say in it. I would imagine it would be the Commercial Manager who would be the one making these decisions. Would I be correct in these assumptions?

Happy birthday young man.

Decisions at Cappielow involving more than the most trivial expenditure have to be sanctioned by the Chairman. That is COMMON KNOWLEDGE even to those on the periphery.

I was once informed on this forum by an 'insider' that Rae has to sanction even the purchase of toilet rolls.

mortonjag 2008-05-22 14:42:55
QUOTE(InverAlly @ May 22 2008, 02:03 PM) [snapback]450496[/snapback]
How do you get a fat burd into bed?
Piece of cake!

Poke of the famous black striped balls!
mortonjag 2008-05-22 15:02:14
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 22 2008, 02:54 PM) [snapback]450522[/snapback]
No I get it ! Laidlaw's actions of sexualy exploiting young men and women whilst plying them with drugs is a far more serious action than someone who was simply against the repeal of Section 2A.

You do seem almost obsessed with this Spurtle. It strikes me that most young men happily ply their intended sexual partners with alcohol every weekend.

Are you suggesting that Laidlaw was illegally drugging his 'victims' a la mini Shipman?
mortonjag 2008-05-22 15:06:05
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 22 2008, 02:59 PM) [snapback]450525[/snapback]
He must stay. We couldn't get anyone to fill that position last season. Finlayson was one of our most important players last season. He has proved he can play at this level.

No harm to Kev, but now that we've beefed up the midfield, I'd happily trade him for a proper winger any day.

He's been a superb servant, and never hid when others did-for that he deserves huge credit.
mortonjag 2008-05-22 15:10:09
QUOTE(JonaTon @ May 22 2008, 12:55 AM) [snapback]450309[/snapback]
St. Mirren, Birmingham City, Liverpool, Juventus.

Hugh.Scott, Steven McGarry, Billy McNeil, Archie McPherson, Andy Millen, Owen Coyle (when he played against us), Paul Tait, Colin Hardie, Ian Ferguson (all of them), Aiden McGeady, Davie Provan, Jimmy Greaves, Ian Wright, Graeme Souness, Mark Lawrenson, Hugh Keevins, Gerry McNee, Jim Traynor, Jamie Carragher (mainly for his thick scouse accent).

Obstruction passed off as shielding the ball as it runs out of play.
Cristiano Ronaldo stopping in his penalty run up.
Goalkeepers coming off their line at penalties.
Players suspended for finals because of a booking in a semi-final.
Referees not getting the wall back the full distance.
Players time wasting by either taking the ball to the corner flag or taking ages to take throw ins or goalkicks.

I was going to say I hated nothing about the beautiful game until I spotted that.

Truly an embarrassment to Scottish football.
mortonjag 2008-05-22 15:13:57
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 22 2008, 03:09 PM) [snapback]450530[/snapback]

Is that the bumpkins' version of the Tilly?
mortonjag 2008-05-22 15:46:56
QUOTE(maccaboy @ May 22 2008, 03:31 PM) [snapback]450536[/snapback]
Agreed, re the beer, and I'm bored with this now - I usually just ignore him, and I think I'll return to that strategy. Life's too short, so from now on I'll try to confine MJ and his buffonery [sic] (and he IS sick) to the lowest level of my consciousness, maybe in the pigeonhole next to Jade Goody - serves her right.

My point throughout this nonsense has been simply this: it's exceedingly boring to have someone continually sniping from the sidelines at the running of the club and those who run it. It's easy to disparage people and what they have done/haven't done/are alleged to have done, and that is what MJ does on far too many occasions for my liking - hence my "deja vu" comment near the start of this thread.

Constructive criticism is one thing, and there's no doubt at all that certain things, maybe MANY things, could be done better at Cappielow, but I doubt that there's a club in the country where the supporters are happy with all aspects of their board's performance - this season alone the boards of Hearts, both halves of the OF, Kilmarnock, Motherwell (even though they finished THIRD), Aberdeen, Dundee, Dunfermline, Partick, East Stirling (!) and of course Gretna have been pilloried by their support, and I've no doubt that every club forum like this one has its own wee dose of MortonJag types - but if someone wants to raise an issue than why not do it in a balanced, evenhanded and analytical way - ie, without the sarcasm, the cynicism and the veiled hints of malpractice and misbehavior that MJ harps on about but has never yet shown any evidence of. What's wrong with just asking a civil question in a civil manner??

A meeting with the board, tho? Fat chance of MJ seeking that, based on past behaviour - he needs a messageboard profile (or two??!!) to hide behind, he ain't brave enough to stick his head above the parapet in person.

RIGHT, about that beer.......

You won't be revealing your identity then? laugh.gif

Pray, before you resort to the usual ungracious method of defeat (your post is almost a carbon copy of dozens over the last three years pretending to be 'bored', will you answer a genuine question?

Are you satisfied with Mr Rae's stewardship of the club over the last three seasons?

Oh and don't forget the wee huff button if all else fails! wacko.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-22 15:57:26
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ May 22 2008, 03:41 PM) [snapback]450545[/snapback]
Get yer own stories ya bam.
The home strip has broader hoops than last year with white panels at the sides, with the hoops being a darkish blue, similar to the Vandanel one. It's an absolute cracker imo, as long as it doesn't end up looking more like a faded grey like last years did then it's our best strip in ages.
Third strip is white with a thickish blue strip at a bit of an angle down one side and on to the shirts. Also rather nice smile.gif

Unless I read it wrong, the sign said they were out in July, which is frankly a joke and further proof of Morton's incompetence.



QUOTE(midTONs @ May 22 2008, 03:50 PM) [snapback]450555[/snapback]
Smiths run the commercial side of Morton's affairs and that includes the replica strips, if you mean Morton should be taking control back and getting the strips out earlier then thats a totally different matter but in my opinion it would be strips for Christmas not the summer holidays then.



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mortonjag 2008-05-22 16:00:02
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 22 2008, 03:46 PM) [snapback]450549[/snapback]
Suppose this is a fairly obvious thing to say, but did you not break them in first. I bought new boots as well and was out playing footy with my son and his mates for about a fortnight to break mine in.

Jesus-thae weans nowadays sure have big feet!
mortonjag 2008-05-22 16:12:45 Having a pop at the Midden is surely all in good fun but it's arrant nonsense to suggest that in reality Paisley Buddies are really any different from Greenockians, Kilmarnock folk, or even Airdrieonians.

That, however, is merely the opinion of an arrogant old fud who supported the Ton throughout his schooldays in Paisley, and can state CATEGORICALLY that the current level of rivalry and 'hatred' is part and parcel of the new breed of football fan. Furthermore the majority of my school mates supported the Huns and there was actually a kind of bond among all those who did not.

Nowadays everybody has to be able to sing 'We are the ******* haters'!

Truth is that in the fifties and before, Killie were probably seen by Ton fans as greater rivals than the Skunks.
mortonjag 2008-05-22 16:15:29
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 22 2008, 04:02 PM) [snapback]450567[/snapback]
Its the cemetary actually. rolleyes.gif

The burial ground-even!
mortonjag 2008-05-22 16:27:41
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ May 22 2008, 04:03 PM) [snapback]450568[/snapback]
Put it this way: If Golden Casket had a distribution deal with, say, Woolworths, and came up with a new ice-cream bar, they would want it in the shops for the start of the summer, when people are going to be wanting such things, but Woolworths turned round and said "Nope, sorry, we'll start selling them in October", I can guarantee Dougie would be demanding answers as to why.

That being so, why does he feel it is acceptable that the people running Morton's affairs do the same thing by not having strips out until after the season has started, and a significant number of people have been on holidays and so on?

Whoever is in charge of selling the stuff is besides the point. The bottom line is that it is GMFC who have the ultimate control over club merchandise, and they should be looking to get their stuff out at the earliest opportunity, not just when they can be arsed.
*This is all assuming the sign did say July, btw, and not June. I'm sure it did though!
PS - I could have taken a pic, aye, but was in a rush. I wonder what Morton's excuse is for yet again failing to utilise their website.



QUOTE(midTONs @ May 22 2008, 04:13 PM) [snapback]450575[/snapback]
I totally agree with you mate, it's like you say holding back the new ice-cream and instead of releasing it in the summer releasing it at Christmas.

I've said on here countless times, the new designs for the strips should be decided months before the end of the season and the new replica strips should be on sale at the last home game of the season giving people the maximum time to wear and enjoy the new tops.

but it seems that would be to easy to do, it's like most things at Morton if they don't forget to do it the leave it until the last minute, believe me I've witnessed it first hand.



QUOTE(EanieMeany @ May 22 2008, 04:16 PM) [snapback]450579[/snapback]
Bang on, particularly 2 seasons ago when we had just won the league. If the club had any sense they would have had the strips ready for launch at the Stranraer game, or at least the supporters night in the Sports Centre.

It's a total farce down Cappielow way, the sooner someone is allowed to come in and give the place a good overhaul behind the scenes then we're going to have to put up with this kind of nonsense every year.

Good gracious gentlemen I really hope you can PROVE those scurrilous allegations-I mean we all know that not all is well at Cappielow, but really!

Anyway, I think I'll be missing out on my season ticket book this year after the total farce last time. It's hardly a saving anyhow-the club gets all the money up front, publishes your e-mail address for all to see, has them printed by some other Steptoe and Son sweatshop doon South wi' a leaky roof, and then has the cheek to say they won't be valid for- bloody well ANYTHING except league matches!

Sorry, but it's PAYG from now on and I won't have to tolerate those leering buffoons four rows in front of me in the Directors' box like flies round a keech!

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mortonjag 2008-05-22 16:32:40
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ May 22 2008, 04:27 PM) [snapback]450587[/snapback]
He can beat a man and he can cross a ball, maby not perfect every time but he gives 100% every game and never stops running. To say he's torture is a shocker, im not going on the last 2 games of the seaosn im going on the whole of the season and in my opinion he has been one of the top players all season.

We could agree to disagree on this all day but i just think it's a bit s***e to be on lower wages than most of the first team squad.
He might not get a start next season once Irons brings in his new ideas and players but Kev should be on the bench if anything.

I would agree except that funds are limited and Irons has to put together a 'small squad of quality players'.
mortonjag 2008-05-22 18:18:56
QUOTE(maccaboy @ May 22 2008, 04:37 PM) [snapback]450590[/snapback]
heh heh - "the usual ungracious method of defeat"?? Ahhh, so everyone else is wrong, and MJ is right....... somehow I think not. Some of us have lives away from "general Morton nonsense", and besides I find it tedious to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man.......

In answer to your question, I was happy to see us get promoted back to the division we should be in. The board deserve credit for getting us there, albeit eventually. The fans didn't do it, the players did - and their being here is due to the board.

The club, I believe, is in the black, and is probably one of relatively few in Scottish football in that position. That position is largely due to the financial backing of Golden Casket, a "wee sweetie firm" (according to you) run by people whose name escapes me, and as a Morton fan I appreciate their overall input. Good to see people put their time and effort AND money towards advancing the club, albeit in the ways that THEY see fit - but if you pay the piper you call the tune.

The general condition of the ground, the facilities there and the floodlights have all improved markedly over the last three years, and all at a considerable cost - it's a fact that the visible improvements are disproportionately low in relation to the unseen costs involved, as I'm sure Alibi would agree.

So much for the good side. The bad.......?

Like many others, I cringe when Dougie takes the microphone and addresses the support (ESPECIALLY that time he couldn't get the damn thing to work, and Cappie the bloody Cat had to help him out). It's not big, and it's not clever - STOP IT NOW.

The public relations side still leaves much to be desired - we're all on the same side, for gawd's sake (or MOST of us, at least), and things like the withdrawal of a supporter's club from sponsoring Morton FC because of a dispute over £100 (as described in another current thread) are damaging and regrettable - and avoidable. I don't know if that was originally down to the Raes or not, but I do feel they should've stepped in when the thing escalated and was brought to their attention and done something to maintain the support and goodwill of the supporter's club.

The decision to remove the previous management team should have been taken by the board weeks, if not months, before the acceptance of the resignation of those individuals. Failure to act earlier almost cost our club their place in the First Division, and I'm less than impressed by their performance on that issue - loyalty to individuals can be admirable, but in this case it was allowed to cloud the realities of the situation and almost cost the club - and therefore the Raes - a great deal of money. And to criticise the support for making their feelings known and "hounding the manager out" was a PR disaster on Dougie's part.

So, some good, and some bad. There's yer answers, pal - now, before we bore the rest of the punters into oblivion, let's give it a rest. And in future, when you have questions to ask about the running of the club, try doing it without so much animosity and negativity - maybe you'll get a better reception than you generally do at present.

Now, why do I feel re that last comment that I would've been better advised to cut out the middle man and just go stoat my head directly off the brick wall.......


You make some valid points but clearly feel you have a God given right to decide what is justified and what is not when it comes to criticism of Morton. It's also evident that you don't have the information I have, yet you are happy to call me a liar, and attempt to belittle my genuine reasons for not breaching confidentiality. I have identified myself, but you haven't the balls to do the same. Until you do you remain a complete nobody in my eyes!.

Just one point of correction-the fact that we're still in Division One is NOT down to the players, and it's most certainly not down to the Board, aka Mr Rae, who would now have us back in division 2 if he'd had his way. The only person to thank is JM, and of course the totally serendipitous coincidence of his departure with DI/DC needing a new job pronto. It's also ludicrous to suggest that the fans had no input. They were well worth that twelfth man at Firhill, and without the fans there would be no Morton-simple-even if Mr Rae seems to have tried in every conceivable way to alienate the paying customer.

You accuse me of going on ad nauseam, when the truth is that I start a legitimate thread, making legitimate points, and asking legitimate questions based on observation and information, only to be attacked by a series of Jag assassins. The Jag's still alive and kicking!

Well sonny, you're the new kid on the block, and my advice to you is this-sure-go and knock your pretty little head off that brick wall-it might be good therapy, though you'll have to extract it from your rectum first! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-22 18:26:57 Taken from the Alloa Advertiser regarding Stevenson's availability:

"Because my injury kept me out of the side the boss has made it clear I will be allowed to leave Morton if another club comes in for me, even on loan.

"The thing is, our chairman Douglas Rae has said no to this. I suppose he wants some of the £17,000 they paid Alloa back."


Shock-horror-player claims Rae countermands his manager!

Now had Mortonjag DARED to suggest something like that-eh Maccaboy!

F*cking liability of a Chairman! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-22 18:30:21
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ May 22 2008, 05:38 PM) [snapback]450622[/snapback]
More people than DDFR were at fault here MJ

I've never suggested that Cappielow is staffed by a hive of competent industry Scotty, but you know as well as I do who always has the final say.
mortonjag 2008-05-22 18:36:06
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ May 22 2008, 05:09 PM) [snapback]450602[/snapback]
Don't you mean Buffons? Or is all that nonsense finished with now?

No I DON'T mean 'Buffons'. I sincerely hope that nonsense IS finished, and I understand Tontastic is still trying to establish who was responsible.

Next question! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-22 18:46:46
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ May 22 2008, 06:22 PM) [snapback]450653[/snapback]
Finlayson looking abroad for a contract

Kev canny even cross a ball, never mind the road!
mortonjag 2008-05-22 18:51:11
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 22 2008, 05:04 PM) [snapback]450600[/snapback]
Just young men?

Well I guess you'd have to define 'young' before I could answer. In my experience the more mature variety approach le shagging with a little more subtlety if no less desire.
mortonjag 2008-05-22 18:53:42
QUOTE(midTONs @ May 22 2008, 06:32 PM) [snapback]450664[/snapback]
manchersterton, you must be a helluva wee, the only guy ever to call GibbyTon big man is Puggsy and Ive saw bigger walking sticks than him.

Careful, careful--- you may offend little ones!
mortonjag 2008-05-22 18:58:02
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 22 2008, 06:50 PM) [snapback]450685[/snapback]
As usual he is talkin bollox. He has no interest in nationalism. Never had never will.

And just for the record. I'm NOT a member of the SNP.

That does come as a surprise Spurtle-does Bawheid know this?
mortonjag 2008-05-22 19:11:10
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ May 22 2008, 06:54 PM) [snapback]450691[/snapback]
Thing is, Alex and Ryan are both 24, relatively inexperienced and likely to improve.
Finlayson is 28, has been playing first team football for about 10 years and isn't going to be anything more than he currently is.
Of course the younger guys with potential should get paid more than some journeyman. Kevin is a worker, thats it. Guys that can run up and down a line all day are ten a penny, we need someone with a bit of intelligence who is capable of putting in good crosses consistently and is able to use the ball well instead of just running blindly until he loses the ball or runs out of pitch. Finlayson, frankly, possesses none of those traits.

Correct-Kev has a fantastic work rate, but apart from his wee purple patch at the season's end, he was a dead loss AS AN ATTACKER, and we now have several more capable midfielders. In a larger squad I'd love to see him stay, but if we're going to get a real winger instead, that's forward thinking IMO.

QUOTE(neilly @ May 22 2008, 06:57 PM) [snapback]450695[/snapback]
u have got to be winding me up???

the amount of times he kicks and aimlessly runs is phenominal!!!

mcguffie has pedigree he just hasnt came good yet, this is a guy that cut it in the spl, kev couldnt sell pies there!!

its not about other players its about kev.

the reason he doesnt run at his man is because he cant!!!!!!!!!!

That's maybe a wee bit unfair-he successfully makes a real pest of himself and has some full backs in a tizzy-then when he breaks free he doesn't seem to have a clue what to do next.
mortonjag 2008-05-22 19:19:38
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 22 2008, 07:07 PM) [snapback]450710[/snapback]
rolleyes.gif he wants some money back for a guy we paid for Shock-horror rolleyes.gif

It was his beloved JM who wasted Stevenson-OK the boy has to carry some responsibility too.

Why is Irons-'the gaffer' telling his player one thing, only to find his decision thwarted.

JM may not have been the sharpest tool in the box but a year ago 75% still had complete faith in the guy. He wasn't ALL bad, despite his subsequent crucifiction by those who were previously up his arse-he latterly completely lost heart, and the same will happen to Irons sooner rather than later if he's not given enough scope to be his own man.
mortonjag 2008-05-22 19:30:18
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 22 2008, 07:21 PM) [snapback]450723[/snapback]
Personal experience? ohmy.gif

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No Mr Bam-this quasimodo's modus operandi has never changed since the student days-pick the least attractive burd-get her pished-and Bob's yer uncle!

Don't tell my partner BTW-he'd be utterly horrified.
mortonjag 2008-05-23 06:18:27 Free central heating for all elderly Scots abandoned
Health Secretary Nicola Sturgeon was forced to announce yesterday that universal provision of free central heating for the elderly was being abandoned in favour of a more targeted approach to provision.

Common sense prevails at last-just because you're of a certain age doesn't mean you're too poor, or too demented to know how to keep warm without central heating.

Pity the nickerless one didn't apply the same logic to her vote catching abolition of prescription charges.

Bound to get something right now and again I guess. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-23 06:24:18
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 22 2008, 09:04 PM) [snapback]450759[/snapback]
Without any swipe at the club , I think sometimes you should look at the bigger picture .

I remember someone who owned their own fairly successful retail business told me that sometimes even if he elt the customer was wrong he would take a long term view that it was better to keep them as a customer and be seen as being reasonable than losing a decent customer .

So I do sympathise that the ARTC members have had to take this sort of action .

Henry Ford once said-'You can have any colour as long as it is black'-even that great man had to change his plans to suit customer demand! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-23 06:31:20
QUOTE(LargsTON @ May 22 2008, 10:00 PM) [snapback]450781[/snapback]
That's a pretty outlandish claim. Care to elaborate? blink.gif

As Chrissiboi has said below

QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 22 2008, 10:10 PM) [snapback]450797[/snapback]
I think MJ is refering to the fact that McInally walked and Dougie was still in a huff days later that he lost his friend . If JM had the balls to stay (shiver at the thought ) then the outcome of the season wouldn't have been the same .
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QUOTE(maccaboy @ May 22 2008, 10:26 PM) [snapback]450810[/snapback]
YAWN.......

.......well, at least he got the "pretty little head" bit right....... laugh.gif
Anyway, to business.......

I don't call you a liar, auld yin; I DO think though that you are a shameless, scurillous rumourmonger, who alienates his audience and negates many of the points he makes by dint of a shamefully biased and unpleasant attitude.

And how have you identified yourself, did I miss that?? Actually, don't elaborate; I couldnt care less who/what/where you are.

hmm, so the players didn't keep us up?? JM and the support did?? REALLY??? blink.gif Tell me, what's the weather like on your home planet? Honestly, words fail me - I just wish they'd fail YOU....... I don't belittle the effect of the support; I'm part of it and was as impressed as anyone by the backing we gave them at Firhill, but really....... if it was all down to that, how did Hamilton win the League, how did Livingston and QoS do better than us and why did Dunfermline have such a miserable season? Reality check needed MJ!! The support may indeed be the "12th man" on occasion - but only on occasion - and that leaves 11 on the pitch to do the real work.......

By all means start your "legitimate threads", make your "legitimate points"; after all, I can easily go back to ignoring you if I choose - but for gawd's sake take the chip off your shoulder and you might get more favourable responses. And it's tiresome to continually see this "I'm important enough to have information about the club's owners but you're not important enough to share it" attitude from you. If you aren't going to share it, don't go on about it, because to the rest of us it might as well not exist. And maybe it doesn't. Put up, or shut up - and preferably the latter.......

.......now, go make yourself a cup of Complan and get to bed. Me, I'm going back to the real world, the smell of bulls*** from your posts is getting rather too ripe.

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Hope your mummy tucked you in nice and tight son-do you let her kiss you on the mouth?




QUOTE(SmithsTON @ May 22 2008, 10:55 PM) [snapback]450854[/snapback]
If you bothered your ar*e going to the Q&A session you could have asked DDF. Sniping from the sidelines as usual. Get a life. mad.gif

FFS it's not just the way you tell them Smiffy-the old ones are always the best!
mortonjag 2008-05-23 06:40:45 So the question remains largely unanswered-a few suggest Rae would never behave in an underhand way, while one poster has made so far unsubstantiated allegations about irregularities with a cheque.

The Jag's comments and question have been well publicised by the usual ignorant sniping of plooky weans (many thanks for the publicity children), but, AS ALWAYS, the facts from behind closed doors at Scapa come under the OMERTA banner.

Well Nach0-what's the beef with yon' cheque-that's one wee item the Jag still hasn't added to his bulging dossier-if you don't want to publish it you can always p.m. me and I promise a wee titbit in return! wink.gif

mortonjag 2008-05-23 06:56:15 Maybe the thread should have been entitled Shoogly's Skint-'cos let's face it-that's the real problem.

NOBODY has dared to argue that Kev should not have a rightful place in the squad-it's already becoming clear that Davie Irons is being sold short-FOR F*CK's SAKE folks-please DON'T let Rae treat us the way he did last closed season. Already folk are pointing out that some clubs have their new strip unveiled before the old one's over, the pre-season organisation is the usual shambles, and season ticket sales don't seem to have been mentioned-not that I'll be buying again. I'll not be surprised if sales are yet again down-but bear in mind we're only the second best supporters in the West of Scotland. wacko.gif

Another day-another go at Rae-well I always explain why. This man has become a liability. We have a wealthy potential investor on the board. It is time for change.

Time for unity in the face of a common enemy perhaps?
mortonjag 2008-05-23 06:59:11
QUOTE(rex manning @ May 23 2008, 12:10 AM) [snapback]450926[/snapback]
I forgot to thank Boozehound for calling me a hero. Finally i'm being aknowledged by 1 of the peers i respect. Even though he rates Finlayson.

urinators
mortonjag 2008-05-23 07:17:22
QUOTE(leyTON @ May 22 2008, 10:24 PM) [snapback]450808[/snapback]
both toppers, ruined though by the silly millions as ever, we need a new sponsor!
the 3rd looks too much like the training gear!



QUOTE(LargsTON @ May 23 2008, 01:06 AM) [snapback]450946[/snapback]
My sentiments exactly. That hideous millions logo makes the tops look cheap and tacky. "The tiny tasty chewy sweet?" Gimme a break. Being 30 and a grown man I refuse to wear a shirt with that logo. dry.gif

This close season is beginning to smack of this time last year, the feel-good factor produced by finishing the season on a high is slowly evaporating amidst a pretty poor pre-season fixture card, ongoing and unresolved dispauted between club and fans and uninspiring signings.

Fingers crossed things get better but I'm getting an awful sense of deja-vu which is why for the second year running I won't be buying a season ticket. sad.gif

Gentlemen-STOP IT-you will offend-don't you know that 'Millions' is a 'household name' and is manufactured by the 'biggest independent confectioner in Scotland' in a wee sweatshop at Fort Matilda, by Sir D. Douglas F. Rae, who is also Chairman and owner of Greenock Morton Football Club which he has loyally supported with his heart in the right place since he was seven and a quarter and the milk monitor in the Academy primary.

'Millions' has apparently even been on the telly adverts once or twice, yet LargsTON has the bare faced cheek to call the shirts 'cheap and tacky', while LeyTON attempts to belittle the great man's achievements with the word 'silly'.

I just get this uncomfortable feeling that some of you are jumping on the bandwagon.

Mortonjag is the only certified critic of Auld Shoogly-RIGHT! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-23 07:27:14
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ May 19 2008, 09:08 AM) [snapback]449025[/snapback]
Few mates from uni are Doonhamers and are going along. If I didn't have a pipe band comp that day I would probably went along for the bater too.

Mon the Queens biggrin.gif

that can be done in privacy MASTER Puggs.

QUOTE(plinth @ May 22 2008, 11:57 PM) [snapback]450918[/snapback]
Aye!

C'mon Queens.

Got to say am rather disappointed at the lack of coverage a 1st Division team has achieved in this part of the World.

The good luck thread even on this board has been lacklustre to say the least.

Maybe an indication of the lack of respect for our other 1st division teams or indeed verification of the fans who hold the Old Firm as their chosen 1st team?

Sorry Plinth, but you can't MAKE Ton fans very enthusiastic right now-we don't have a successful Chairman by the name of Mr Rae like you lucky folks.

I was at Hampden in a crowd of 106,000 when the Ton faced a similar daunting prospect-we'd gubbed Well, and Hibs, but the occasion was too big for us.

I'll be rooting for you tomorrow, and will be overjoyed if you can swing it, though I certainly won't be giving any money to the Bookie! smile.gif

PS-your second name wouldn't be Charles?
mortonjag 2008-05-23 07:30:58
QUOTE(TaunTon @ May 23 2008, 07:25 AM) [snapback]450966[/snapback]
Certified or certifiable?

Both my good friend-hence the highlighted text!

Hope you had a good one-you are becoming very aged n'est ce pas?
mortonjag 2008-05-23 07:36:02
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 22 2008, 10:44 PM) [snapback]450839[/snapback]
Don't ya rogue, burds always pick you, FACT.

Those of the vulcher variety I'd imagine!

Digressing completely-do you agree that the first aiders at Scapa look like hovering vulchers the minute a player goes down injured? tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-23 07:42:04
QUOTE(JonaTon @ May 22 2008, 11:02 PM) [snapback]450865[/snapback]
Because they are.

One specific example would be when as a 17 year old I was spat on, hit with coins while grown men screamed in my face as I walked past a queue of St.Mirren fans before the game they won 4-1 at Cappielow in the season they won the league (1999/00). Don't tell me that's a friendly rivalry.

No it's not JonaTon-there are morons in every football crowd-NO club is immune to having local windows tanked in for example.

It IS, however, absolutely ludicrous IMHO, to suggest that the fans of any other provincial club are particularly blameworthy-those things tend to even out over the decades.

The OF-that is a different scenario, but even they have large sections of decent living supporters.
mortonjag 2008-05-23 07:44:29
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ May 22 2008, 11:00 PM) [snapback]450861[/snapback]
2 pounds on the dream number last night - yyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeessssssssssssss

Question is - should I just quit now and live on the interest or what?

What would you do with it?

Send it over Santa and I'll think about it while it's in transit! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-23 07:51:19
QUOTE(Savo @ May 22 2008, 11:29 PM) [snapback]450892[/snapback]
I can understand Airdrie and creditors being impatient, but what would you have said in 2001 if Kroll Buchler Phillips had stuck rigidly to a deadline? What if they had just decided to liquidate Morton when people were still involved in desperate talks behind the scenes to set something up?

Don't get me wrong, I am not convinced about the merits of the Davies bid for Gretna, but you can be sure that our administrators had similar reservations at one stage here - and they kept talking.

The potential of Morton was there for all to see and had historical backing.

Gretna are F*CKED and that t*** Davies is trying to buy over a breeding ground for cheap Eastern European players to be sold on the minute they're worth two bob. Another weasel in the works.
mortonjag 2008-05-23 07:58:00 I used to love Dave Allen's final line


'And may your God go with you'.

The only losers in the religious debate are the ones who think they've got it all worked out! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-23 08:04:27 There is still time! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-23 08:34:10
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ May 23 2008, 08:22 AM) [snapback]450979[/snapback]
Just like to state that is bullsh1te and we will play whatever the fvck we want happy.gif

The monkey salutes your brazen advertising on this and the other forum- he's asking for the girlfriend's sporran BTW.
mortonjag 2008-05-23 08:36:12
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ May 23 2008, 08:24 AM) [snapback]450980[/snapback]
*cough*

And if anyone needs a piper.....

Mr Rae will call the tune? tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-23 08:42:06 I'm surprised this didn't appear yesterday-it's been on P & B for ages.

Shock-horror-Baptist Minister shags Sunday School Teacher-I haven't read any of the stuff, but was fully expecting an exclusive in today's Sun.........

Holy Smoke-Ref's wife in red hot Lesbo Nun romp.
mortonjag 2008-05-23 08:48:20
QUOTE(DongaTon @ May 23 2008, 12:15 AM) [snapback]450929[/snapback]
Well done to Celtic.

A lot has been said about it, but I really have despised Rangers' anti-football in all competitions this season. They were so fortunate against Dundee Utd in the Diddy Cup Final, and hopefully that is the only silverware they will collect this season - it's scarcely all they deserve.

At least Celtic have tried to play football, and never gave up.

Strachan was a great wee player and appears to be a wily manager - he's shut up a lot of people, that's for sure.

Let's hope a few more teams can battle the SS and Celtic next season, make it a bit more competitive. Teams are getting there, but lack of consistency due to smaller squads than the OF will always hinder them.

I have no love for Celtic but I have to say I think the best team won the league. How Rangers must be kicking themselves they pulled out of the deal for Scott McDonald!!!



You say it best when you say nothing at all wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-23 09:02:38
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ May 23 2008, 08:48 AM) [snapback]450996[/snapback]
Only if he can show the funds for paying said piper are coming from an allocated "pipers pit" source in advance that has been agreed at board level in a 75% majority vote and the tune is one that said piper knows. If time will allow, music may be given to the piper for learning this tune but it must be made aware that this wont always be possible.

Oh and that "I've Got Candy" can't be played on the pipes wink.gif

'Look son I don't care what can or can't be played on that tartan covered bagpipe equipment which reminds me of a tin of Buchanan's-Scotland's finest confectionery-you've been promised two and six for an afternoon's work, and if I want the Hallelujah Chorus in ragtime, you'll damned well play it and like it.....................AND


whisssssssssper-erm-could you stretch a point and-erm-- humph-play 'Live is Life'-I appeal to you as a fellow Greenockian-I know two and six isn't much those days, but when I was a boy it was a months' pocket money-and I don't see any harm in sticking with the old standards-Mrs Rae will be so pleased young man. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-23 09:05:46
QUOTE(midTONs @ May 23 2008, 09:03 AM) [snapback]451008[/snapback]
The Strone. laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-05-23 09:10:09
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 23 2008, 09:02 AM) [snapback]451005[/snapback]
I haven't mentioned anything about homophobia. You said and I quote "Soutar wants to legislate on what consenting adults get up to in their own rooms."
Can you provide proof of this ? Or indeed provide a link to prove such a claim ?

Souter tried to block the repeal of Section 2A (Section28 as it is also known mainly in England & Wales), which related to the "intentional promotion" of homosexuality in Schools.

Well if pufes were promoted unintentionally somebody would have made an arse of it!

I'd like to believe that homosexuals have equal opportunities in the job stakes.
mortonjag 2008-05-23 09:20:39
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 23 2008, 09:13 AM) [snapback]451018[/snapback]
His name was either Percy or Perry? I am driving my dads black astra, with i sign saying Princess on board, of course! Will get my own car when i am not a student and can afford to run it. smile.gif

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Take the sign off immediately-it obscures your rearward vision and distracts other motorists-mine says Mortonjag for Pope BTW.

Secondly-how in the name of the wee man (not meaning to offend any dwarves who may be keeking up over the parapet) was PERCY your tester.


Spurtle is finally exposed! blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-23 12:02:56
QUOTE(maccaboy @ May 23 2008, 10:30 AM) [snapback]451061[/snapback]
Can't believe that this thread's been on the go for two days and no-one has yet remarked on the omission of the word "a" from the centre of the title.......

.......but they have now.

Who are 'they'?

Speak to your English teacher if you don't understand that, son.

That is intended to be patronising, but also educational. Listen to the jag instead of mocking! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-23 12:08:40
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 23 2008, 09:27 AM) [snapback]451028[/snapback]
The sign is on a wee side window in the back. rolleyes.gif If by Percy, you mean Colkitto, it wasnt him, i know him. wink.gif

OMG you've been introduced to CLAYMORE C*CK! blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-23 12:14:38
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 23 2008, 11:22 AM) [snapback]451074[/snapback]
They became electable after they abandonded socialism, they would still be electable if Blair had not f'cked up over Iraq and then pissed off.
The tories are now electable because they have grabbed the centre.

There's a message there for those who want to see it.

The funniest thing about the campaign.

A lady called Tamsin calling her opponent a Toff. laugh.gif

Mantis more like!

QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 23 2008, 11:38 AM) [snapback]451077[/snapback]
Well done the Tories !

It's all falling into place for us nationalists. The Tories will introduce English votes on English matters. And already Cameron is talking of doing away with the Barnett Formula Asked if it was time to get rid of the formula, Mr Cameron says: "This cannot last forever"

A referendum with the backdrop of the Tories in power at Westminster, Labour in meltdown with very unpopular leaders, both north and south of the border (and no credible replacements either !) you couldn't ask for better.


Why are you not a member of the S.N.P. Spurtle? ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-23 12:18:28
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 23 2008, 11:49 AM) [snapback]451079[/snapback]
"Indirectly it could be argued it could be argued that he is trying to legislate" That is a big difference to "Soutar wants to legislate on what consenting adults get up to in their own rooms."

In other words, you have absolutely no evidence whatsoever that Souter wants to legislate on anything !

Souter was entitled to have his say on what he believed in as far as Section 2A goes. He employs homosexuals, so can hardly be described as a rabid homophobe.

As for the Cliff Richard thread. I merely asked the question if Cliff was gay ? rolleyes.gif


Names please!
mortonjag 2008-05-23 12:22:19
QUOTE(maccaboy @ May 23 2008, 12:09 PM) [snapback]451088[/snapback]
oh, we understand all right. Glad you informed us it was meant to be patronising; it wasn't clever enough a comment for that to be obvious. But naw, I'll pass on the "listening" part, waste o' time, that.

Hmmm, must stop referring to ourselves in the plurality - must leave that to MJ in future.......

Don't youse mean 'in the plural'?
mortonjag 2008-05-23 12:27:09
QUOTE(maccaboy @ May 23 2008, 10:00 AM) [snapback]451044[/snapback]
aye, fair enough - do you guys play requests? Maybe a wee lament for MJ's missing marbles?? laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-05-23 12:44:00
QUOTE(suda @ May 23 2008, 11:37 AM) [snapback]451076[/snapback]
the 1st rule of workplace politics is don't tell anybody else what your getting paid.

MortonJag your nothing if not predictable I could of guessed it would all be Rae's fault. He seems to be gradually progressing the club, promotion, survival, building a stronger squad - it must be terribly frustrating for one so jealous to see so your arguments are becoming more and more desperate and tedious. By your own admission there are probably better wingers available for the money so why pay more?

That is your opinion-nothing more.

I confess to many emotions when I think about our 'Saviour'. Jealously, I assure you, is not one of them.

I actually feel sorry for him-I'm not an unkind person and fully understand he is the victim of his own personality. I DO believe he means well-that his heart's in the right place, if you like, but I'm also aware of the effect that has on other people-thousands of them.

You can either choose to believe or disbelieve what I state-I DON'T lie, and I DON'T make allegations without being able to substantiate them. Quite frankly I sometimes wonder why I bother keeping it all up my sleeve, but I have professional standards to maintain, and will never betray confidences.

What is as plain as the nose on my face is that Rae was DESPERATE to hang on to JM and distraught when he insisted on going. To me that does not smack of a man with a plan!

I'm sorry suda-if you're only 'Jag baiting' that's fine, but if you really believe what you just wrote, you're now in a dwindling minority.
mortonjag 2008-05-23 12:49:46
QUOTE(BluebirdTon @ May 23 2008, 11:25 AM) [snapback]451075[/snapback]
Morton 2-2 Dundee United in 1995.

Cappielow was so packed i had to make do with the Dundee United end.

Correct-an absolutely farcical mismanagement, and the turnstyles haven't been improved since despite all the massive expenditure on the stadium we're constantly being told about. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-23 12:57:43
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 23 2008, 12:24 PM) [snapback]451096[/snapback]
They wouldnae have him wink.gif

Because of his sexual persuasion? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-23 13:04:40
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 19 2008, 11:03 PM) [snapback]449411[/snapback]
If Brown and the government want to do something for the forces, give them better equipment or decent wages. Rather than have flag waving ceremonies to further his own political agenda.

How much does Bawheid pay the Scottish Army Spurtle?
mortonjag 2008-05-23 13:07:36
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 23 2008, 12:57 PM) [snapback]451111[/snapback]
You know who they are, you "frequent" with them ohmy.gif

None of my homosexual friends is employed by Soutar-unless of course you were alluding to practices of which I remain unaware.
mortonjag 2008-05-23 13:10:55
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ May 23 2008, 01:06 PM) [snapback]451117[/snapback]
That would be interesting if it ever came about. Could an independent Scotland maintain the same wages and conditions as now?
mmm...
Personally, I dont think so.

Full heilan' dress and a claymore for each sojer-they'd save a bloody fortune, and even thae pufes would feel comfy in the gear.
mortonjag 2008-05-23 13:19:38
QUOTE(maccaboy @ May 23 2008, 01:12 PM) [snapback]451120[/snapback]
We argued about that one,and he won.......

Let him do the posting in future.
mortonjag 2008-05-23 13:23:58
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ May 23 2008, 01:14 PM) [snapback]451124[/snapback]
The Roayal Regiment of Scotland already has the heilan dress. I wonder what we would wear? Nice uniforms in a navy coloured tartan? Perhaps a fetching bonnet designed by shortbread tin designers?
Cannot wait!

Nae claymores?
mortonjag 2008-05-23 13:26:26
QUOTE(WillowMan @ May 23 2008, 01:22 PM) [snapback]451128[/snapback]
Are you now Davies's mouthpiece unsure.gif tongue.gif

A mere observer-welcome back Willie Man!
mortonjag 2008-05-23 13:31:14
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 23 2008, 01:26 PM) [snapback]451132[/snapback]
I never said anything about supporting him. He does have an opinion about Section 2A, how many posters on here would disagree with his views I wonder ?. He is not homophobic to the degree that you and many on here would suggest.

I personally never agreed with his stance on Section 2A. But I don't get hung up about it and exaggerate it all out of proportion.

Spurtle-can we clear the air once and for all on this-do you regard practising homosexuals as perfectly normal in every way?
mortonjag 2008-05-23 13:39:46
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ May 23 2008, 01:13 PM) [snapback]451121[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif Now I'm lost blink.gif
The odd request is no problem...as long as I know it wink.gif


Does the girlfriend not have a sporran puggs-in that case, maybe you should borrow the razor!




Just play 'Mulligan's Tired'-he won't know the difference from 'Jaggy-where's yer Marbles'.
mortonjag 2008-05-23 14:34:11
QUOTE(maccaboy @ May 23 2008, 01:52 PM) [snapback]451141[/snapback]
ummm, the two are entirely separate issues. Sniping from the sidelines just for the sake of stirring things up & being a pain in the chuckies deserves to be discouraged; it has nothing to do with attendance at games or other functions, which over this last wee while may well have deserved a thread in its own right.

Doing anything 'just for the sake of stirring things up' is certainly to be discouraged, unless, of course, the stirring is of the 'general nonsense' variety which most posters seem to enjoy without clyping too often to our overworked Mods!

Making valid points, asking valid questions, and trying to open some folks eyes to what's been going on is surely quite different.

Manchesterton is spot on-there's a 'here's tae us-wha's like us' element among some of our fans-they don't like new faces-the board is never as good as in the 'old days'- and petty competition and jealousy appears commonplace.

Good gracious, I'm in my bloody sixties, yet only a few weeks back, one of our well known 'young bucks' was mounting his own campaign to have me banned-WHY- well my opinion for what it's worth is that he must see old Jag as competition, and that is frankly pathetic, especially when he's the same age as my weans!

I don't mind 'abuse' if it's witty and played by the rules. I DO object to false and unsubstantiated allegations about ME-- made just for the sake of stirring things up-though in the longer term they have always spurred me on, rather than discouraged me.

Categorically I am neither 'sniping from the sidelines' (I KNOW exactly what I'm talking about, and my intended targets know I speak the truth), nor am I stirring things up just for the sake of it.

I have supported Morton all my life. Unlike Mr Rae, two thirds of that life have been spent outside Inverclyde, yet I still attend every match-home and away. I have fond memories of the glory days of the sixties-just as Mr Rae has, and I passionately want to see the club I love back in its rightful place in Scottish Football.

I believe we are now at a watershed-I believe substantial financial investment may be available if other criteria are fulfilled-and I believe that the one thing which now hampers progress is the unyielding grip Mr Rae has on the club.

That last statement is based on evidence
, much of it documented, which I have amassed over the last three years, and includes confidential input from several other regular posters. All I have ever asked of Mr Rae is that he move gracefully aside, let those more capable take over the reins, and enjoy the rest of his time at Cappielow in an Honorary capacity.

It is perfectly obvious that the tide is turning-it is only a matter of time before something gives, should the current regime remain. I'd like to see it sooner rather than later.
mortonjag 2008-05-23 15:01:51
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 23 2008, 01:51 PM) [snapback]451139[/snapback]
BECAUSE THEY CAN. laugh.gif

unsure.gif laugh.gif

I always have to ask them to speak up-goes with the age.
mortonjag 2008-05-23 15:03:38
QUOTE(centralTON @ May 23 2008, 01:54 PM) [snapback]451143[/snapback]
Well, he is a Donkey, so, maybe he's hung like one. tongue.gif

...or just fancied a nice ass.
mortonjag 2008-05-23 15:06:26
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 23 2008, 02:07 PM) [snapback]451148[/snapback]
It is un-natural to me, and to be honest I can't understand it. I wouldn't say it was normal either, probably due to the fact that I can't understand it.

But I believe two homosexual males/females can have affections for each other normally attributed to hetrosexuals.
They shouldn't be ostricised or become pariah's because of how they wish to lead their lives.
They should have the same legal rights as hetrosexuals too.

There-that was relatively painless!

Do you think Mr Soutar views homosexuals in a similar fashion?
mortonjag 2008-05-23 15:08:35
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ May 23 2008, 02:15 PM) [snapback]451150[/snapback]
The navy uses cutlasses!

Aye, to open rum bottles. Bawheid could build all his Scottish Navy boats on the Clyde too!
mortonjag 2008-05-23 15:11:32
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 23 2008, 12:55 PM) [snapback]451110[/snapback]
I have not always agreed with SNP policy in the past. Right now they are doing a fine job and I back them. That wasn't always the cae as I say.
At the start I didn't agree going down the referendum route. I believed a majority of votes in the Scottish Parliament should be enough to declare unilateral declaration of independence (UDI) as it would be the democratic WILL of the Parliament and therefore the WILL of the Scottish people.

And I wasn't too keen on being part of Europe or having the present Monarchy as head of State.

But I realise we have to achieve independence first before we can tackle Europe and the Monarchy. And it's no use getting into an argument about the referendum either. Nothing will change that now. And if in the end it get's us to independence then I'll be happy.

When is Bawheid getting the munny?

QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 23 2008, 02:18 PM) [snapback]451151[/snapback]
You're gonnae get a yella card auld Yin. wink.gif

Enough of the ageism or I'll have you banned-or might even call you a dwarf.
mortonjag 2008-05-23 15:22:10
QUOTE(Alibi @ May 23 2008, 02:47 PM) [snapback]451158[/snapback]
I've just realised that the SPL has a rep on the creditors' committee despite not being listed as a creditor in the administrator's report. They did put money in after the club went into admin, but if the report is correct (and it is inaccurate and incomplete in other details too) it would seem to me that the SPL rep shouldn't be on the committee. I also question why the administrator appears able to, if he so chooses, hand pick the CC members as that would enable the result to be fixed.

What's the local MSP/MP saying about all this?
mortonjag 2008-05-23 15:24:31
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 23 2008, 03:14 PM) [snapback]451166[/snapback]
I think Souter just didn't like the fact that homosexuality was being brought into a childs enviroment within schools around the country.

I thought sex education was a modern idea.
mortonjag 2008-05-23 15:56:33
QUOTE(Alibi @ May 23 2008, 03:29 PM) [snapback]451170[/snapback]
Not a cheep from our local MP or constituency MSP (both Labour) but then you wouldn't expect either of them to have their finger on the pulse of the local community. To be fair to Russell Brown, he is a Queens fan and will no doubt be at the game tomorrow - and I suspect he wouldn't be too unhappy to see Gretna flounder.

Wouldn't surprise me if there's an item in the Gretna accounts: Donation to W. Alexander - £999.99. Or would be if they actually bothered to produce accounts.

I had a good wee scan of the listed creditors-the joke of course is that the real biggies who are on that tame committee won't really be hurt much, yet there's a whole trail of debt right across the local community. It is SURELY the responsibility of elected MSP/MP's to look after their constituents. I believe they should be presented with written questions before it is too late-though I still have the distinct feeling that the SFL will tell Davies to go to f*ck.
mortonjag 2008-05-23 16:00:06
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 23 2008, 03:31 PM) [snapback]451172[/snapback]
I did say I didn't agree with his stance. but it's a minor issue to me.

You appear to have been much misjudged Spurtle!
mortonjag 2008-05-23 16:01:24
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 23 2008, 03:32 PM) [snapback]451173[/snapback]
Whit munny ?

Yer bloody subscription to the haggis club!
mortonjag 2008-05-23 16:06:07
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 23 2008, 04:02 PM) [snapback]451182[/snapback]
Whit haggis club ?

Essen Pee
mortonjag 2008-05-23 16:14:04
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 23 2008, 04:09 PM) [snapback]451185[/snapback]
Although I'm not in the same league as Lord Laidlaw on so many levels. I have made donations to the SNP.

So have I!

You're not for joining Bawheid's band then?
mortonjag 2008-05-23 16:46:25
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ May 23 2008, 04:28 PM) [snapback]451189[/snapback]
you knew i played football, remember telling u years ago! i thought all wummin stood up to pee! oops time to get ma coat i think! laugh.gif

Button yer flies first Madam.
mortonjag 2008-05-23 16:48:29
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ May 23 2008, 04:35 PM) [snapback]451194[/snapback]
You've just made the very basic error of admitting to being a women on here. Your profile views will go though the roof in the next few days as the saddoes on here check if there are any photos. I'd have kept it ambiguous if I were you.

Said with a certain air of savoir faire.
mortonjag 2008-05-23 16:51:38
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 23 2008, 04:46 PM) [snapback]451199[/snapback]
31 years in teaching and I missed the courses in homosexuality!

huh.gif

It'll probably be rife in thae proddy schools though.
mortonjag 2008-05-23 17:38:03
QUOTE(manchesterton @ May 23 2008, 05:24 PM) [snapback]451216[/snapback]
I have plenty of spare beers and you are more than welcome to share so long as you bring the sun with you from Sunny Greenock. biggrin.gif

Believe it or not he's just arrived in Glesca-I've been waiting for him all day, and can confirm he has his hat on too.
mortonjag 2008-05-23 17:52:52
QUOTE(RevDave @ May 23 2008, 05:41 PM) [snapback]451220[/snapback]
Finlayson has signed up for another 2 years.

I thought he was on holiday! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-23 18:02:11
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 23 2008, 05:54 PM) [snapback]451226[/snapback]
where to begin..
sniping from the sidelines means to criticise rather than getting involved


it does not refer to being in or out of a particular clique of fans, whether real or imagined

everyone who posts on here criticising the club is in a sense sniping from the sidelines (see threads about the website, the commercial operation, the management, the owner ... )

someone who goes a whole season sitting beside dougie, but brings his criticisms on here is either a sniper or a sleeper



A sniper is an infantry combatant or serviceman (e.g. police officer) who specializes in shooting from a concealed position over longer ranges than regular infantry, often with a specially designed or adapted sniper rifle. A sniper requires skill in marksmanship, camouflage, and field craft. Military snipers are also adept at carrying out methods of infiltration, reconnaissance, and observation techniques cool.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-23 18:07:21
QUOTE(cornbeef @ May 23 2008, 05:59 PM) [snapback]451230[/snapback]
Good ! Glad to see that sorted. NEXT ! Bringing back McGowan would be something else.

Surely nobody wants another 'striker' now that we have super Khali!
mortonjag 2008-05-23 18:12:59
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 23 2008, 06:01 PM) [snapback]451231[/snapback]
laugh.gif

Bryan was not me he was midTONs-tontastic- Dougie Rae-aye that'll do



Bryan is Dougie Rae, and he's off on holiday for a fortnight.

Vive la revolution!
mortonjag 2008-05-23 18:17:29
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 23 2008, 06:09 PM) [snapback]451237[/snapback]
you rascal - i was just about to make the same point biggrin.gif

.... and subsequent posts underlined it laugh.gif

(PS so i think 'they' is now justified tongue.gif)

What's with your obsession with the Jag's willie, Trumpet?

Have you nothing better to do like wiping your arse, peeling the totties, or simply having a nice soothing chug at your own?
mortonjag 2008-05-23 18:20:33
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 23 2008, 06:16 PM) [snapback]451245[/snapback]
prisoner at the bar - do please speak up: we couldn't be sure if you said 'guilty' or 'not guilty' tongue.gif

I plead teetotal yer lordspish
mortonjag 2008-05-23 18:27:46
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 23 2008, 06:20 PM) [snapback]451248[/snapback]
i neither know nor care whether mortonjag has one, but he most clearly is one highly intelligent person whom I'd love to outsmart.



Trumpet-bless your soul-I knew you'd come good in the end! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-23 18:31:56
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 23 2008, 06:27 PM) [snapback]451251[/snapback]
we expect great things of you

St. Francis said, “Blessed is he who expecteth nothing, for he shall enjoy everything.”
mortonjag 2008-05-23 18:34:23
QUOTE(cornbeef @ May 23 2008, 06:28 PM) [snapback]451253[/snapback]
Better with a Cali Super than a super Khali.................... and another thing...............

is superkhalirealistic ???

superhhalisrealistic espee.elsatrocious
mortonjag 2008-05-23 18:36:56
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 23 2008, 06:33 PM) [snapback]451259[/snapback]
and as usual, you're graceful in (albeit rare) defeat tongue.gif

In truth I'm more graceful in de hands.
mortonjag 2008-05-23 18:55:26
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 23 2008, 06:39 PM) [snapback]451266[/snapback]
does st. francis post on here?

and are you two related laugh.gif

I think he just keeks in every now and then-and Aye-he's my wee brother from Wemyss Bay


Trumpet-have you thrown yourself off a cliff or something?
mortonjag 2008-05-23 18:57:57
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 23 2008, 06:42 PM) [snapback]451268[/snapback]
yes, i rather thought you'd need large shoes

I can be gracious in de feet.

Trumpet- speak to me I'm in all by Michelle! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-23 18:59:58 Labour Whipped By Toffs!


COBBLERS
mortonjag 2008-05-23 19:03:31
QUOTE(ThornTON @ May 23 2008, 06:41 PM) [snapback]451267[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED
mortonjag 2008-05-23 19:15:48
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ May 22 2008, 10:31 PM) [snapback]450818[/snapback]
Tennis is a poofs game

The same could be said of all in wrestling.
mortonjag 2008-05-23 19:18:33
QUOTE(Deego @ May 23 2008, 07:14 PM) [snapback]451279[/snapback]
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sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-23 19:39:36 The deed is done-the money can not now be spent elsewhere-whether it's going to be more of the purple patch or more of the right wing blues is now simply a matter of time.
mortonjag 2008-05-23 19:41:48
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 23 2008, 07:37 PM) [snapback]451287[/snapback]
I was at wimbledon 2 years ago. Brilliant day, burnt to a frazzle, sick on the plane on the way back! Tennis is a brilliant game, i play for Ardgowan Ladies, my name has been on Inverclyde Now for the last few weeks, won every match this season so far, never know, might win the league. wink.gif

I thought you were a girl!
mortonjag 2008-05-23 19:48:56
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 23 2008, 07:47 PM) [snapback]451292[/snapback]
Been playing with the Ladies for the last 3 years. rolleyes.gif

so Dowsa WAS right! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-23 19:50:25
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 23 2008, 07:48 PM) [snapback]451293[/snapback]
£3.80.

rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-23 19:52:18
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 23 2008, 07:49 PM) [snapback]451295[/snapback]
Eh??? unsure.gif

sorry princess-the old Jag was just being a knotty boy as usual!
mortonjag 2008-05-23 21:03:46
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ May 23 2008, 08:37 PM) [snapback]451314[/snapback]
eh?

£2 times 190% is £3.80

You can't get 190% of £2...........but you can get 0 to 100% of £2

Sorry -- not like me I know

Couldn't resist

It's not like you to belittle people santa.
mortonjag 2008-05-23 21:10:48
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ May 23 2008, 08:40 PM) [snapback]451319[/snapback]
That's actually pretty bad!

I agree-he'll be kicked oot the Baptist Church too-guaranteed-I didn't actually read the story-did he take cold feet and she went to the press in the huff?

Men and their willies-eh-what God hath joined together, let no man put asunder! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-23 21:15:39
QUOTE(Toby @ May 23 2008, 09:09 PM) [snapback]451332[/snapback]
I'd be more inclined to think that's "Miss Cowdenbeath".

Miss Uranus.
mortonjag 2008-05-23 21:44:16
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 23 2008, 09:36 PM) [snapback]451342[/snapback]
I wonder if she rides a bike with twin saddles. How do you ride a bike if you've got three legs?

I don't think she has Mr Edwards-though she appears to have 1.5 bums.
mortonjag 2008-05-24 07:32:03 Full marks to the club for getting the piccy and news of Kev on GMFC.

NO marks for the daft blue pants which should obviously be white, the 'tacky or what' Millions logo, and the outlandish marketing ploy of paying scarecrow's wages for the model.
mortonjag 2008-05-24 07:38:05
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ May 24 2008, 12:55 AM) [snapback]451462[/snapback]
I'd be delighted if we signed McManus, good experienced player who might be able to pass on something to Greacen and Harding, the sort of experienced guy they could have done with in the squad 2 years ago. Would be a positive move.



QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 24 2008, 12:58 AM) [snapback]451463[/snapback]
Would be a great player for a season, possibly two. Hope it's us that have signed him !

This is the sort of signing we should have been making three and four seasons ago instead of concentrating all our efforts on the unreliable form of inexperienced youngsters. Some common sense (if he arrives) seems to be prevailing at last, and much can be made in the first division from a good mix of youth and experience. Gordon Chisholm would confirm.
mortonjag 2008-05-24 07:43:34
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 23 2008, 10:36 PM) [snapback]451373[/snapback]
yes they are both that tall,i forgot Brian Graham too.

EVERYBODY seems to have forgotten Brian Graham-wouldn't surprise me if he scores more than Wakey this season.
mortonjag 2008-05-24 07:46:02
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ May 24 2008, 12:04 AM) [snapback]451428[/snapback]
FAO Deego and Davie McArthur:

Would you rather we still had Gardyne? blink.gif

Any day-Gardyne will probably break through this season or next-he has a good future IMHO.
mortonjag 2008-05-24 07:49:05
QUOTE(john cena @ May 24 2008, 01:35 AM) [snapback]451471[/snapback]
Sign him great player. Him and McGowan rolleyes.gif

...and while we're at it the Tims could throw in Scott McDonald and that daft big Polish c*nt ! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-24 07:53:38
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ May 23 2008, 11:31 PM) [snapback]451397[/snapback]
No.........your joke

It was pretty bad!

There was a joke Santa! ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-24 07:57:37
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ May 24 2008, 01:53 AM) [snapback]451475[/snapback]
Kin yer maw ride a bike in the middle o the night wi her feet on e handle bars

Wi yir erm in a sling and a finger up her ding and e cheeks of her erse go ding a ling a ling
Well a said tae flow a luv ye so, even in yer nightie

When e moonlight flicks across yer tits o jesus christ almighty
Well a know that hole its a luvely hole an a know were jist tae find it

Its doon yer front and its cald yer c**T

and yer ershole's right behind it
wink.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


Full lyrics and melody please.

Definitely not Morrisey crap-that one!
mortonjag 2008-05-24 08:00:30
FLATUS MAGNUS
mortonjag 2008-05-24 08:03:54
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ May 23 2008, 11:23 PM) [snapback]451386[/snapback]
I'm deeply sorry

Well stop telling me you're Santa, deeply.
mortonjag 2008-05-24 08:06:18
QUOTE(Deego @ May 24 2008, 03:12 AM) [snapback]451503[/snapback]
It's curvy.

There's no need to be accurate.
mortonjag 2008-05-24 08:07:49
QUOTE(Deego @ May 24 2008, 03:38 AM) [snapback]451511[/snapback]
Sex.

Sugarally watter
mortonjag 2008-05-24 08:10:01
QUOTE(Deego @ May 24 2008, 03:48 AM) [snapback]451514[/snapback]
Awright I lied I'm still here.

Hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Well will you kindly remove that avatar and replace it with a human being. The Chairman will do fine. Your signature is grand! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-24 08:14:45
QUOTE(davidh1874 @ May 24 2008, 03:32 AM) [snapback]451507[/snapback]
Mother has taken computer away again due to only having 7 A's on the report card.

...and he's currently rowing back from Shetland with a couple of jumpers for his faither.
mortonjag 2008-05-24 08:24:41
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 24 2008, 12:37 AM) [snapback]451450[/snapback]
You can presume as much as you like, 'but you and I both know' that you haven't any certainty at all that I'll vote SNP George (if that's your name). At this moment I doubt very much that I will because some of those Tartan Tory Pricks have too much history of screwing up the cause of self determination. I talk the SNP down mainly because the SNP tends to talk ordinary Scottish people down. The smirking, near 'ubermensch' mentality of some SNP members and supporters continues to alienate those who might otherwise support the concept of self government.

sad.gif Does Moira know?

QUOTE(TonInDublin @ May 24 2008, 12:41 AM) [snapback]451454[/snapback]
Political post of the year. Unfortunately memories are short and people refuse to see what is right in front of them. Recent exploits clearly show that Salmond is an excuse of a politician, an excuse of a man and an excuse of a Scotsman.



Bendy Wendy is worse and the lib dems aren't worth a w**k. So he'll be successful in spite of himself.

Salmond, by the day, is being exposed for the joke that he is. His ego and his own personal agenda clearly outweighs anything else. Shame - because he started out a decent and honourable man who I once thought highly of.

TonInDublin


And as photogenic as a rotten tumshie in a scarecrows suit.
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ May 24 2008, 12:47 AM) [snapback]451458[/snapback]
I stand corrected. This is the best and most accurate political post of the year.

And he is called George. It's Belgian for small.

Allegedly.

TonInDublin



QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 24 2008, 04:55 AM) [snapback]451519[/snapback]
There's no such language as Belgian. tongue.gif

In Flanders the official language Dutch (often incorrectly referred to as Flemish) and in Wallonia it's French, whereas the capital Brussels is bi-lingual.

So 'Belgian' for small would be 'petit(e)' or 'klein(e)' and not George.

Happy to help. smile.gif

Brussels smout speak with forked tongue?
mortonjag 2008-05-24 08:30:44 I love that scarf, and what a sweet looking girl.
mortonjag 2008-05-24 08:35:57
QUOTE(Deego @ May 23 2008, 11:18 PM) [snapback]451384[/snapback]
What ever happened to TWGP, RTB and the likes?

You're a pure fannybreast mortonjag, show me how to pleasure a man the way you do.

xx

Sorry deeglet mon petit choux choux-I was early to bed last night.

port ton had a heavy day.
mortonjag 2008-05-24 09:26:30 laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

What a shower you lot are-you're on here till the wee sma' oors and can't get oot yer pits for love or money.


Early to bed and early to rise makes a man healthy, wealthy, and wise! sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-24 09:36:35
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ May 24 2008, 09:28 AM) [snapback]451546[/snapback]
....I'm here tongue.gif

laugh.gif

I see Shoogly paid you for 'Live is Life'!
mortonjag 2008-05-24 10:55:31
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 24 2008, 10:15 AM) [snapback]451558[/snapback]
If politics is to have any real meaning then I'd suggest it isn't relative. There is a difference between right, left and centre, problem is nowadays all of the major political parties in Scotland are right wing in reality, whilst claiming to be centrist. Correction : some of them are even bigger liars and claim to be left of centre.

The truth is Mr Edwards that British 'democracy' has always been a misnomer, British politics has always been corrupt, and 'successful' British politicians have always put self before party before people.

With those criteria, Bawheid could sadly be around for some time.
mortonjag 2008-05-24 11:06:28
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 24 2008, 10:27 AM) [snapback]451560[/snapback]
I had a dream last night that upon passing Cappielow the bulldozers where raising the Sinclair St and Wee Dublin End to the ground in anticipation of construction of an away stand that may attract more to Cappielow and a family stand to encourage the next generation of ton fans.

But then I woke up and realised that if this club cannot build a decent infrastructure such as youth development, what chance that the powers that be are at all interested in investing in the clubs future at any level.

We have very limited ambition, and if we where to romp the 1st division in the coming season DDF and Junior would choke on their millions at the thought of having to upgrade Cappielow.

Having said that IF we did romp to the SPL I fully believe the Rae dyNASTY would toddle back to their day jobs and release their shares to a more ambitious individual or group. wink.gif

unsure.gif

'As long as there's breath in my body Greenock Morton is not for sale unless somebody comes in with an offer more ridiculously overpriced than this seasons strips'.
mortonjag 2008-05-24 11:09:54
What do you base this on?

DRUGS TEST !
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Time will tell gentlemen just as it always does! I can't understand the current obsession with Kev-nor with Wakey for that matter, though they are both good squad players.
mortonjag 2008-05-24 11:19:21 cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(C B @ May 24 2008, 11:00 AM) [snapback]451567[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->You talk as if McInally is still our manager - still getting the nightmares? laugh.gif
If he still was he wouldn't be making this sort of signing wink.gif[/quote]
If he still was, Mr Rae's wishes would'nt have been thwarted, we'd be back in the second division, and the fans would be to blame-that-along with the price of sugar, global warming, and Wendy Alexander.
mortonjag 2008-05-24 11:24:47
QUOTE(stuart @ May 24 2008, 09:49 AM) [snapback]451552[/snapback]
Confirmation straight from the board - nice one smile.gif

Very pleased with this signing.

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mortonjag 2008-05-24 11:44:44


cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(C B @ May 24 2008, 11:22 AM) [snapback]451577[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I will forgive the Kev statement as I understand the doubters - although his effort more than makes up for that in my opinion !

.....but Gardyne ! Really.....little ability and absolutely ZERO heart ![/quote]
If you are going to rate players purely on mediocre talent and big hearts you could re-name the ARTC right now.

Gardyne is only 22, has under 17 and 19 international caps, and is twice as direct as the relatively ageing blinkered greyhound that is Finlayson. The former did also manage to score several goals last season.

It is quite frankly a farce that Morton have not had a proper winger for two seasons, and despite DI's commonsense approach, failure to sign at least one decent crosser of a ball will significantly hamper progress next season.
mortonjag 2008-05-24 11:50:40
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ May 24 2008, 09:36 AM) [snapback]451550[/snapback]
Wouldn't surprise me either, but it'll almost definitely be on loan somewhere else.

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mortonjag 2008-05-24 11:53:55
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 24 2008, 11:16 AM) [snapback]451572[/snapback]
I'm all for ambition, just as long as it's tempered by reality. I remember that Scott and Mileson had ambitions. Let's see what this season brings. I'm certainly more hopeful than I was at this time last year.

Scott had ambitions unrelated to the success of Morton, while Mileson backed a non-starter.

If 'better the devil you know' was always true, progress would inevitably be stunted.
mortonjag 2008-05-24 12:00:19
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ May 24 2008, 11:48 AM) [snapback]451588[/snapback]
Of course Wendy Alexander would be to blame - Bendy Wendy's responsible for everything that's gone wrong in the world.

Including the straight banana.
mortonjag 2008-05-24 12:06:12
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 24 2008, 11:57 AM) [snapback]451595[/snapback]
Can't disagree with that, Irons and co seem a more astute team. But we have been punching below our weight for well over a decade, reality for me would be competing at the top of the 1st division EVERY season, with the distinct possibility of joining the 'big' boys.

Why is it many fans seem to think we are not of that level, we are a potentially bigger club (and should be at that level) than the likes of ICT, Falkirk and definitely Hamilton. Indeed in my opinion we should be at the level of the likes of Motherwell.

We have to realise our potential or forever be looking in from the outside, regarded as a very well supported diddy club. There is only one club in our division who should regularly be bigger than us and that is Dundee.
I still challenge the owners of Morton to come out publicly and state what their long term plans are for Morton, have we found what they regard as our level, or are they willing to take this club forward?

Morton are run in a very amateur fashion compared to clubs with obvious ambition, it is almost looked upon as a toy or badge for our esteemed chairman.
It has a siege mentality at times and we as the fans are not allowed to ask pertinent questions regarding the future because we don't own it, but without us there would be no Morton.

Maybe, just maybe, someday someone who understands where Morton should be will take this club forward.
I can only hope.

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So that's how I'm supposed to say it? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-24 12:10:51
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 24 2008, 11:30 AM) [snapback]451582[/snapback]
It's my pedantic scientist brain. Centres are relative to the position of the thing measured. British politics has moved to be more right wing economically and to be more liberal socially over the last 30 years. We would both be happy with one of those moves and would disagree over the felicity of the other.
You are correct about most Scottish parties now being right of centre economically.

Greedy b*****ds rule O.K.!
mortonjag 2008-05-24 12:17:43
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 24 2008, 11:35 AM) [snapback]451583[/snapback]
Weather beginning to look nice, was about to think about getting the shoes on and strolling into the dear green place for a long liquid lunch wie Lady McB(eth) then the mind snapped into gear, cup final day. dry.gif

The place will be hoachin' wie blue bigots spewing their bile.

Buggrit. mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif

Mon e Doonhamers. tongue.gif

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Bigots spewing their blue bile would have been better Mr Bam-if pictorially inaccurate.

I shall indeed be supporting the true blues this afternoon-I'm not expecting them to win, though Mr Hill has been humming the lorelei all morning!
mortonjag 2008-05-24 12:29:13
QUOTE(C B @ May 24 2008, 12:12 PM) [snapback]451602[/snapback]
I am really at a loss as to why you suddenly have Gardyne love blink.gif he was McInally's worst signing and THAT is some achievement !

I guess though you will be rooting him on against Kevin when we meet County next year just so you can say I told you so unsure.gif

Disappointed in you this time MJ

People are SUPPOSED to be disappointed in me CB! wink.gif

I don't have 'loves' or for that matter 'hates' for players, unlike, it would appear, 75% of posters.

If you're basing what you say on his performances for us, I fully understand. Sadly the same could be applied to the undoubtedly talented Stevenson. McInally, it seems, had a kiss of death on players-NOBODY really advanced under his gaze.

His worst signing IMO was possibly Coakley, and despite his latter form, the jury's still out on Wakey IMO.

Rather than me 'loving' Gardyne', you seem to be carried away with Super Kev's work ethic. It sure has to be that, as his talent is strictly limited! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-24 12:41:06
QUOTE(ViolaTon @ May 24 2008, 12:31 PM) [snapback]451609[/snapback]
Quality-concerns aside, I liked this year's home strip a lot, especially the paler blue, the white shorts, the hooped sleeves and the lack of that ridiculous 'millions' logo. When I first heard the description of the new one I was a bit dubious but, now that I see it, it isn't bad - glad we stuck with the hoops, plus the collar is quite nice. Real shame about the sponsor (although I think I'd rather it was on the front instead of sneaked on at the back of the neck) - surely we can find a better sponsor than that?! Only the 'seriously strong cheddar' one comes close to being as naff.

To be honest I could live with 'Randy's Remoulds' if the club was getting a huge input of sponsorship money.

To me 'Millions' on the shirts says absolutely EVERYTHING that's regressive about the current situation.
mortonjag 2008-05-24 12:44:15
QUOTE(InverAlly @ May 24 2008, 12:18 PM) [snapback]451605[/snapback]
Bob, back in The Sheiling 14th June!

Do you do funerals too?
mortonjag 2008-05-24 13:20:37
QUOTE(stuart @ May 24 2008, 01:17 PM) [snapback]451623[/snapback]
That's exactly what I meant Donkey Dave, confirmation from the messageboard.

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mortonjag 2008-05-24 13:30:15
QUOTE(CraigoTON @ May 24 2008, 11:27 AM) [snapback]451581[/snapback]
Cheers mate biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

I'll never forget my 19th Birthday-Queen of the South beat Rangers in the Scottish Cup Final! wink.gif


Enjoy!
mortonjag 2008-05-24 13:37:21
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ May 24 2008, 12:53 PM) [snapback]451614[/snapback]
Nearly right MJ.

Greedy b*****ds rule U.K.

TonInDublin

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QUOTE(TonInDublin @ May 24 2008, 01:11 PM) [snapback]451618[/snapback]
Ach I'll beg his forgiveness later Geordie. He's good that way ! Although scripture would seem to be in my favour.

Romans Ch6 verse 15 clearly states "blessed is he who highlights the shortcomings of the men who rise not above the height of the centurions belts, yea even when they doth wear the sandals of the highly heeled type".

At least I think that's how I remember it.

Have a good weekend Geordie - you know I love you really.

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What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.


That would be wee Grace I'd imagine.
mortonjag 2008-05-24 13:42:18
QUOTE(Cawston @ May 24 2008, 01:23 PM) [snapback]451627[/snapback]
Looks like the work of Snodgrass's agent.

don't know how 'supplier' seems to suit the surname better.
mortonjag 2008-05-24 14:04:06
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 24 2008, 01:55 PM) [snapback]451633[/snapback]
Nope, Amazing Grace wink.gif

’Twas grace that taught my heart to fear,
And grace my fears reliev’d;
How precious did that grace appear,
The hour I first believ’d!

Some effin wummin!
mortonjag 2008-05-24 14:55:55
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ May 24 2008, 02:17 PM) [snapback]451636[/snapback]
Well some of us were on the ran dan all day more or less and into the wee small hours wink.gif

EVERY day!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-24 14:59:48
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ May 24 2008, 02:42 PM) [snapback]451641[/snapback]
I'm sure the Morton physio will be pleased to hear that you've named him as the source on a public massageboard. If true, you'd better hope he doesn't land in soapy bubble over this. Silly boy. mad.gif

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mortonjag 2008-05-24 15:38:56
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ May 24 2008, 03:36 PM) [snapback]451645[/snapback]
Rangers in the lead after a fine strike from Boyd.

NEVER a foul by Tosh-deja vu-effin refs and OF makes me boke! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-24 15:58:08
QUOTE(alexp @ May 24 2008, 03:52 PM) [snapback]451648[/snapback]
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don't want to see rangers win, but if anyone scores, it's gotta be him. cool.gif

WHY-because he's a beastly merry can! laugh.gif

Anyway I've got the flat windows open here and there wasn't a f*ckin' cheep from those hun c*nts till Dougal gave them the first goal. Rangers had had one decent chance up till then-now it's the OLD story.

A long way back for Queens-nothing barring a miracle.

Praying VERY hard.
mortonjag 2008-05-24 17:37:49
QUOTE(The Naitch @ May 24 2008, 04:07 PM) [snapback]451651[/snapback]
It was a foul, and a fine strike as well.

Complaining for the sake of it... that's not like you MJ wink.gif wub.gif

The look on Tosh's face said it all! NO I wasn't complaining for the sake of it-I know how the Queens' fans felt at that moment-I wanted revenge for The League Cup Final-now if the ref has been Sean Donnelly! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-24 17:40:09 Double breasted post darling-glad you got doon the road safely! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-24 17:43:42
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ May 24 2008, 04:51 PM) [snapback]451669[/snapback]
Is it on the astroturf or the grass?

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Looks like the weans may have a pair of big astroturf bits tae soften up next!
mortonjag 2008-05-24 18:03:07
QUOTE(cornbeef @ May 24 2008, 05:59 PM) [snapback]451681[/snapback]
Good attempt at recovery there laugh.gif (It was the physio then............. rolleyes.gif )

Is it still a rumour or can we trust the source who 'cannot be named'?

I actually thought that should have read 'may not be named' but the nature of the actual constraint is unspecified. wink.gif

mortonjag 2008-05-24 18:08:43
QUOTE(Davy B Ton @ May 24 2008, 05:59 PM) [snapback]451680[/snapback]
I'm quite happy about keeping Finlayson. Good squad player and would easily fill in the gap on the right if there was an injury. I don't know where people are getting off on Gardyne though...God I mind him coming on and being totally useless. He may have caps for scotland under 17s and 19s but thats totally useless if he can't produce in the 1st division.

Personally I'd have Finlayson over Gardyne anyday. (to play for morton)(don't get any ideas!)

The debate will rage on about Kevin, but he's had more than long enough to show what's in him. He definitely improved under Irons-just like many other better players in the squad, and aye the boy's worth his weight in gold as a pest to the opposition.

Gardyne-as I said-don't judge a relatively young player on his few wee shots at Cappielow under JM!
mortonjag 2008-05-24 18:11:53
QUOTE(paul_ton @ May 24 2008, 06:09 PM) [snapback]451691[/snapback]
no it is not a rumour the guy spoke to him about it and he siad he was signing we shall just wait and see that i am telling the truth that allan mcmanus has signed for us

But it's not on gmfc and they were super quick about super Kev-maybe talks have STALLED!
mortonjag 2008-05-25 09:08:02
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 25 2008, 12:34 AM) [snapback]451839[/snapback]
Ditto , if my aspirations fall below what you say barbarossa thats because of my faith in the present regime and not where I think our position could be .
As much as some would praise DDFR 's reign you have to ask with such a willing force in terms of support and potential revenue for a well run operation whether the continued poor performance in running of the club hasn't really stifled our growth in the terms you speak .
As always a very good post

Barbarossa is very restrained in his posting-for that he deserves great credit.

The original question remains unanswered-not one person has provided an account of how the money is tracked. I can only assume that nobody knows. I'm now led to believe that between the Sportsman's dinner and the Fans' match we may have raised between £10.000, and £15.000-NOT a fortune but a substantial sum of money.

Before the usual morons start on me I HAVE NOT claimed that the funds have been misappropriated-I simply believe that the huge efforts of ordinary hard working guys to support the club THEY love should be properly acknowledged, rather than them having to accept in good faith that the money will reach its intended goal, as the faithful do at a church offertory.
mortonjag 2008-05-25 09:18:36
QUOTE(cornbeef @ May 24 2008, 08:19 PM) [snapback]451732[/snapback]
Can't you read ? It wasn't the physio !
It was Professor Pickett in the Boardroom.

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QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ May 24 2008, 08:23 PM) [snapback]451735[/snapback]
with the mobile phone dry.gif

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QUOTE(paul_ton @ May 24 2008, 08:52 PM) [snapback]451748[/snapback]
cant any of u read!!! i said tht i assumed it was from the physio but i was wrong
it was from my dads boss's boyfriend who met mcmanus himself at cappielow yesterday early afternoon
there are no leaks in the boardroom or physios i got it wrong!!

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QUOTE(midTONs @ May 24 2008, 09:02 PM) [snapback]451754[/snapback]
I maybe wrong but what would McManus be doing at Cappielow if it was not to get his picture taken by the 'tele (which It wasn't as it would have been on there website now due to Saturdays edition being printed late on a Friday), just about all signing business gets done at Fort Matilda.

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QUOTE(Toby @ May 24 2008, 09:09 PM) [snapback]451761[/snapback]
He wouldn't have heard any rumours Jona, too busy going away for the pies and Mars Bars!

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QUOTE(Bryan @ May 24 2008, 09:42 PM) [snapback]451781[/snapback]
so to clarify his source wasnt the physio, and i heard from someone that he had signed too...

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QUOTE(JonaTon @ May 24 2008, 10:23 PM) [snapback]451799[/snapback]
I remember Martin Compston was sent to the wee hut at Stenhousemuir for pies and Mars Bars by the rest of the players in the stand. Might've been the game Dave McPherson curled one in the top corner.

...when spotted by Ken Loach who was auditioning for Sweet Sixteen.
mortonjag 2008-05-25 09:25:07
QUOTE(piehutt @ May 24 2008, 07:07 PM) [snapback]451700[/snapback]
If there's a fee then I reckon we have a decent chance of signing him. Think the Dungdee coffers are running rather low these days.

...and we've just had a Sportsman's dinner and Fans' footy match!

QUOTE(18-deano-ehm-74 @ May 24 2008, 08:35 PM) [snapback]451742[/snapback]
What would you do if he wore a 'God bless Dougie Rae' t-shirt tongue.gif ?

Accept that the real one was still underneath.
mortonjag 2008-05-25 09:32:41
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 25 2008, 02:42 AM) [snapback]451851[/snapback]
1965 ?

or 26 October 1963 ?

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It all came back yesterday-I know how the Queens fans feel.

We had over 103,000 at that game-not bad for a wee club that can't now even afford to accommodate trialists from overseas.

Then, when we played Hamilton in the (I think) B & Q Cup final a few years back we struggled for a combined crowd of 8,000. Mind you most of those would be Hamiltonians as they are an SPL Club. wacko.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-25 09:37:22
QUOTE(foobs the elder @ May 25 2008, 09:18 AM) [snapback]451867[/snapback]
Its not the size of the dog in the fight that counts,

But the size of the fight in the dog.
Foobs
6'-0"

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True- it's common knowledge that many a Rottweiler has been choked by a chihuahua.
mortonjag 2008-05-25 09:39:47
QUOTE(JonaTon @ May 24 2008, 09:16 PM) [snapback]451765[/snapback]
Good question. At the moment I don't think there's any really outstanding candidates.

Predictably I'd probably go for Cech or Buffon.

I thought Gordon was all set to get himself up there but he hasn't had a great season.

Edit to add: Kieran Westwood is a keeper to keep an eye out for. He was brilliant at the Carlisle game I was down at and is on the bench for the Republic Of Ireland as we speak.

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mortonjag 2008-05-25 09:45:20
QUOTE(port-ton @ May 24 2008, 08:29 PM) [snapback]451739[/snapback]
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The moment you realise youre the messageboard slut is a horrible moment in any mans life. sad.gif

I know you're married, but sluts have feelings too! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-25 09:47:55
QUOTE(port-ton @ May 24 2008, 09:51 PM) [snapback]451787[/snapback]
i also had a heavy gay, but i like to hump an extra bit of rump.

i feel like playing hungry hippos, dont know why your sagging naked body made me think of that.

It must have been that mud.
mortonjag 2008-05-25 09:49:42
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ May 25 2008, 12:20 AM) [snapback]451832[/snapback]
Stuart is a Cardiff fan, but I am not a Cardiff fan.
I am, however, Stuart.

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You used to be Ryan.
mortonjag 2008-05-25 10:01:52
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 25 2008, 09:30 AM) [snapback]451871[/snapback]
Funnily enough a good mate always praised the USSR for left wing economics and Illiberal social policy, though he was a Stalinist.
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDWhat a sweet picture-I can make out the reclining Bawheid and Big Anabel wi thi claes on-not sure if it's Jolomo or Vettriani mind.
mortonjag 2008-05-25 10:14:00
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ May 25 2008, 09:54 AM) [snapback]451881[/snapback]
I daresay that's restricted to on here where a number of our online posters are too young to know of or experienced first hand a Morton team other than the ones of the last five or six years. Certainly not of say a team that could go to Ibrox and win or one that even Sir Alex himself used to dread playing at Cappielow.

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This is one of the areas where opinion and fact are often juggled about indiscriminately. It's easy for some of our older and apparently informed posters to argue that Kilmarnock (for example) are 'bigger' than us, when they have enjoyed a long period of relative success while we've gone to seed.

Every single time the Ton potential is tested-as in the last game at Firhill -it's obvious that there's a big club in there just crying out for proper development, and those of us who remember the heady days of the sixties will NEVER be persuaded otherwise.
mortonjag 2008-05-25 10:19:41 There's a lesson to be learned by some of our younger posters when they write off potential signings as 'over the hill'. Yesterday we had Thomson scoring a cracking goal in the Scottish cup final, and Windass in his fortieth year achieving even greater things.

If you're good enough, you're young enough!
mortonjag 2008-05-25 12:07:25
QUOTE(The Naitch @ May 25 2008, 11:10 AM) [snapback]451890[/snapback]
What's wrong with Gianluigi Buffon?

Did I mention him? ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-25 12:12:58
QUOTE(SvenM @ May 25 2008, 11:16 AM) [snapback]451891[/snapback]
I moved from Hamburg to Gourock in October 2003 to work for IBM and went to my first game I think in November - it was a 5-2 win, forgot the opponent. I was surprised by the style of play as I expected huffing and puffing and kicking and rushing instead of just outplaying the opponent. smile.gif I loved it and came many more times, only to witness the breakdown in the second half of the season. sad.gif

Didn't go much the following season as the football was terrible, then moved away to a better job. Reading are my current local club, but I don't like the plastic athmosphere...

I am not a fan, but keep an eye on how Morton is doing. Hope Morton survives a bit longer and can improve the infrastructure enough to challenge for promotion at some point in the future.

And shame on you all for buying the Morton shirts of the promotional season - they were sold out before I got one. wink.gif

Hi Sven- Cowboy McCormack was a much more experienced manager than Jim McInally and in those third division days we enjoyed some nice attacking football AND goals.
mortonjag 2008-05-25 12:19:53
QUOTE(The Naitch @ May 25 2008, 11:06 AM) [snapback]451889[/snapback]
Have I missed something? unsure.gif

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It would appear so-or are you just trying to be a smart arse?
mortonjag 2008-05-25 12:23:56
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ May 25 2008, 11:52 AM) [snapback]451898[/snapback]
PaddyPower is a complete and utter ride - from start to finish. Like you I got drawn in by the offer of a matched first bet and also bonus tips on nags. Spent weeks trying to get my matched bet. The nags tips are worse than useless. They boast they have a 30% success rate ! Mostly on horses that start first or second favourite. Fúck me, Peters and Lee would beat that. Also, worse still when you hit the casino - your paddypower loyalty bonus for the month is €20 - when you meet all the criteria of the offer. Try hitting that ! I finally got found all all of the implications of it, but you need to play poker, roulette, slots, blackjack and a oile of other s***e to get close to it.

Nope - ignore the joining offers gimmicks and stick to decent websites like Beyfayre or Bluesquare.

I do all of my betting on there now - no gimmicks, no mess, no fuss.

TonInDublin

When I first heard 'Paddy Power' I didn't realise they were Bookies.
mortonjag 2008-05-25 12:26:57
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ May 25 2008, 12:11 PM) [snapback]451902[/snapback]
Had to look twice there. laugh.gif

Bravo.

...though you were never Iain-he proved to be a real wee keech if you recall!
mortonjag 2008-05-25 12:56:25
QUOTE(The Naitch @ May 25 2008, 12:31 PM) [snapback]451912[/snapback]
Yes.

You really are being a total p***k today, and outed yourself on the other forum too!

I highlighted the word 'buffon'-nothing more-nothing less-it was an 'in' joke, though you'd have shared it if you spent less time with your head in other web sites! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-25 13:10:16
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 25 2008, 12:46 PM) [snapback]451915[/snapback]
Handing out free drugs does neither the addict nor society any good in the long term, but it's the cheap 'sweep under the carpet' solution that's no real solution at all. Rehabilitation and the provision of meaningful work would be better, and for those who refuse there's the jail. 'Those who will not work shall not eat'. Lenin said that, and he wasn't writing in the Daily Mail. laugh.gif

The trouble is Mr Edwards that neither the addict nor the politician has the slightest interest in the 'long term'.

THAT is the real problem.

Only when we have a benign dictatorship with Mortonjag in charge shall we see true advances.

Mortonjag's motto is 'do unto others as you'd have them do to you' and there would be many mighty public thrashings of little pink botties.
mortonjag 2008-05-25 13:13:37
QUOTE(simple_ton @ May 25 2008, 12:53 PM) [snapback]451917[/snapback]
I thought "Paddy Power" was something Sellick put in the referee's drink at half time! laugh.gif

I was thinking more along the lines of the Irish Olympics Fencing team.
mortonjag 2008-05-25 13:48:37
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ May 25 2008, 01:29 PM) [snapback]451923[/snapback]
pot, kettle, black are some words that come to mind, t***


Have we met darling? wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-25 13:50:37
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ May 25 2008, 01:30 PM) [snapback]451924[/snapback]
pedo

Back to school child-your spelling is atrocious. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-25 13:58:17
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 25 2008, 01:34 PM) [snapback]451925[/snapback]
Which is my point about the necessary reform of penal policy, Hard labour, slopping out and withdrawal from the ECHR which is a charter for scumbags.

BTW DE the quotation, mibbies auld Ulyanov did use it, but he was stealing again.

2 Thessalonians 3.10


Mar 8:1 In those days the multitude being very great, and having nothing to eat, Jesus called his disciples [unto him], and saith unto them,
Mar 8:2 I have compassion on the multitude, because they have now been with me three days, and have nothing to eat:
Mar 8:3 And if I send them away fasting to their own houses, they will faint by the way: for divers of them came from far.

Mar 8:4 And his disciples answered him, From whence can a man satisfy these [men] with bread here in the wilderness?
Mar 8:5 And he asked them, How many loaves have ye? And they said, Seven.
Mar 8:6 And he commanded the people to sit down on the ground: and he took the seven loaves, and gave thanks, and brake, and gave to his disciples to set before [them]; and they did set [them] before the people.
Mar 8:7 And they had a few small fishes: and he blessed, and commanded to set them also before [them].
Mar 8:8 So they did eat, and were filled: and they took up of the broken [meat] that was left seven baskets.
Mar 8:9 And they that had eaten were about four thousand: and he sent them away
mortonjag 2008-05-25 14:08:24
QUOTE(steveoath @ May 25 2008, 02:06 PM) [snapback]451935[/snapback]

I wondered how long that was going to take Steve-Aye he was frozen out by JM!
mortonjag 2008-05-25 15:24:22
QUOTE(port-ton @ May 25 2008, 02:49 PM) [snapback]451946[/snapback]
the only thing im married to is my incredible hips, and freakishly soft hands.

I can always put up with the softness so long as they're freakish.
mortonjag 2008-05-25 15:27:07
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 25 2008, 03:17 PM) [snapback]451952[/snapback]
It's about time we stopped wasting money on p1sh like this.

For once Col i'm with you, it's a mark of shame to win eurovision.

....and an even bigger mark of shame to drool over that Irish clown of a presenter-forget his bloody name-but he used to do the 'fight on flab' about thirty years ago and it never worked.
mortonjag 2008-05-25 15:32:37
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ May 25 2008, 02:31 PM) [snapback]451943[/snapback]
didn't we meet at the Q& A night, oh no we didn't because you bottled it laugh.gif have you made your mind up who you really are yet? petal-face laugh.gif

As I said to Smiffy the other day-the old ones are always the best-for those who are too witless to think of anything new! tongue.gif

QUOTE(The Naitch @ May 25 2008, 02:58 PM) [snapback]451948[/snapback]
Hmm, not like you to dish out personal insults without provocation. Oh wait, it is.

Get a grip, son.

Oh, and FYI ... where i 'out' myself is none of your business. wink.gif

laugh.gif It's my business if you're close enough for me to get a wee sook-oh and BTW you DID f*ck up on the other forum! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-25 15:40:13
QUOTE(C B @ May 25 2008, 03:04 PM) [snapback]451950[/snapback]
Another Drugs Test !
Where the hell has all this love for Gardyne come from? The guy was a waste of a Morton jersey !

Although Kevin isn't Ronaldo he's a damn sight more valuable than Gaydyne ! mad.gif

unsure.gif


Hmm CB-whit's this all aboot?


There was a young man called Gardyne
Whose facial features were fine
He seemed quite aloof
Some called him a fudge packer
The poor lad loved women and wine.
mortonjag 2008-05-25 15:42:22
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 25 2008, 03:27 PM) [snapback]451958[/snapback]
laugh.gif Or 57 year old unreconstructed Marxists on cups of tea.

or old fuds in their sixties and dotage.
mortonjag 2008-05-25 15:43:55
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 25 2008, 03:24 PM) [snapback]451955[/snapback]
Marxist / Atheist that I am, I will concede that there is far more to be learned from in the Bible than in Das Kapital. Lenin after all, was another of those opportunists that I disrespect so much. cool.gif

Politician.
mortonjag 2008-05-25 15:54:49
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 25 2008, 03:48 PM) [snapback]451964[/snapback]
Aye, but he was even worse than that - an assassin. 'Bawheid' as you call him, hasn't reached that stage yet.

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mortonjag 2008-05-25 16:05:46 Thats not a limerick, aloof does not rhyme with packer blink.gif

There was a young fencer named Bates
Whilst scuffing with some of his mates,
fell over his cutlass
which rendered him nutless
and practically useless on dates

See the difference rolleyes.gif
PS ALSO Gaydyne's haircut leaves a lot to be desired[/quote]




If people are judged by their hair
And not how they look when they're naked
It's sure a sad day
If yer Barnett is navy blue
And yer boiled tatties look like they're roasted. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-25 18:04:01
QUOTE(C B @ May 25 2008, 04:12 PM) [snapback]451969[/snapback]
Right Keats, its just not happening for you - put the monkey on huh.gif

It's me I'm a monkey called Shelley
My Dad's an old fud and he's smelly
The pong from his fart
Broke my stepmother's heart-
She's nice, and she's been on the Telly.
mortonjag 2008-05-25 18:06:20
QUOTE(The Naitch @ May 25 2008, 05:39 PM) [snapback]451972[/snapback]
I don't know whether to laugh or cry... MortonJag is stalking me! ohmy.gif unsure.gif dry.gif wacko.gif

Laugh and the world laughs with you-cry and you cry alone! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-25 20:57:21
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ May 25 2008, 07:47 PM) [snapback]452005[/snapback]
I was lead to believe that's what we were getting, QUALITY over QUANTITY

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QUOTE(Tontaster @ May 25 2008, 07:49 PM) [snapback]452007[/snapback]
I dont Think Gardyne was terrible he just wasnt given enough chances to prove himself mind you nobody got a chance under mcinally

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QUOTE(HamCam @ May 25 2008, 07:51 PM) [snapback]452008[/snapback]
Mediocrity continues to find a home at Cappielow. The human equivalent of a turkey when it loses its head.

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mortonjag 2008-05-25 21:11:23
QUOTE(Cawston @ May 25 2008, 06:51 PM) [snapback]451982[/snapback]
Not trying to be funny (I agree entirely with what you've said) but has the club been asked for this information or is this one of these messageboard situations where they're now taking pelters off the back of a question asked by an anonymous poster who's asking valid questions but to the wrong people?

I'm not trying to be funny either, but I get thoroughly pissed off with folk like yourself flying in the face of common knowledge and reality. Furthermore this poster is NOT anonymous, as anybody who keeps track of the forum -except Rae's well known informants-will tell you! One of the recent posters on this thread asked 'the club' a very pointed question about the youth policy some two weeks back, and not for the first time, 'the club' has seen fit to ignore it. Given the recent discussion of 'the club's' handling of the Annan situation, I'd suggest that 'the club' deserves all the 'pelters' it gets, and some.

QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 25 2008, 07:42 PM) [snapback]452001[/snapback]
indeed

See above, you wearisome one. Sometimes you would do well to acknowledge that Mortonjag SUPPORTS Greenock Morton-if not 'the club'. Sometimes it would be nice to feel that others do the same! rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ May 25 2008, 08:31 PM) [snapback]452015[/snapback]
I think that the crux of the matter is not particularly how the money is spent but that we see evidence of a good sustainable youth policy attracting the best of local talent and in a few seasons delivering results. I'm not fussed how they spend the money particularly as long as the club deliver what they say with regards to the youth setup.

...which is of COURSE the reason for my question.

It IS, however, vital in the interest of good relations between 'the club' and its fans, that 'the club' acknowledges their efforts and demonstrates gratefulness in a gracious manner, instead of the aloof detachment which has come to be the hallmark of 'the club'.
mortonjag 2008-05-25 21:27:58
QUOTE(loyal lass @ May 24 2008, 11:18 PM) [snapback]451819[/snapback]
Wee women hate lofts(attics)that is strictly male territory.

Big women as well in my experience.

QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 25 2008, 09:00 PM) [snapback]452034[/snapback]
I have some old Cliff Richard LP's union jack flags, photo's of the queen Douglas Rae and the royal family, some Charles and Diana mugs, a Princess Ann wedding video and Princess Di's funeral DVD .. unsure.gif

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QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ May 25 2008, 09:09 PM) [snapback]452040[/snapback]
Get them on Ebay......at the very worst someone called Big Bad Eck 69 will snap them up for his collection.

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My 'junk drawer' is my car. She even insists on me cleaning that out every other month! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-25 21:33:19
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ May 25 2008, 09:14 PM) [snapback]452043[/snapback]
Interesting letter in the Sunday Herald about the 'white working class' and attacks on the culture by middle-class and multicultural 'intellectuals'. Concludes that in the opinion of the author the country is being 'softened up' to accept the scraping of benefits to said individuals.
Seemed a bit on the hysterical side but I am in agreement that the only three groups left in Britain that can be attacked with impunity are the US, Jews and the white working class, everyone else is off limits.

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junkies/alkies

gretna supporters (x3)

mortonjag
mortonjag 2008-05-25 21:36:21
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 25 2008, 09:07 PM) [snapback]452039[/snapback]
Fcuk me, the sound of one hand clapping. dry.gif

While the other reciprocates to a picture of Nickerless Urgon.
mortonjag 2008-05-25 22:37:32
QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ May 25 2008, 10:26 PM) [snapback]452068[/snapback]
Would you kindly just fck right off? smile.gif

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mortonjag 2008-05-25 22:41:23
QUOTE(se65an @ May 25 2008, 10:24 PM) [snapback]452064[/snapback]
Feck, I should have said nothing, next I will be accused of trying to take over the world. Cue Donga rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2008-05-25 22:43:30
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 25 2008, 10:26 PM) [snapback]452067[/snapback]
Ohhh Err... rolleyes.gif

Jealousy doesn't become you Spurtle! wink.gif

Aye-it's effin annoying-a wee announcement would be re-assuring-or is it just f*cked?
mortonjag 2008-05-25 22:57:27 In constant pursuit of improvement in the health of my fellow posters I've resurrected this old thread.

Just cast a loving glance over your little friends before they set off on that long journey-anything abnormal should not be ignored. In particular black jobbies, white jobbies, floating jobbies which smell foul, and bloody slimy jobbies should not go without due attention.

Blue jobbies should be auctioned on E-bay, and hedgehog shaped jobbies are, unfortunately, an imaginative figment.

Sometimes it's worth going through the motions, especially if you suspect you've swallowed a foreign body-the easiest way is to place a seive beneath the little chappie as he leaves home, thereafter gently massaging him under running water till he's gone.

I could go on but am afraid I'd be accused of talking a load of rubbish. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-25 23:00:59
QUOTE(manchesterton @ May 25 2008, 10:49 PM) [snapback]452080[/snapback]
I believe there will shortly be an announcement on the official GMFC web site! wink.gif

Source? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-25 23:02:52
QUOTE(se65an @ May 25 2008, 10:45 PM) [snapback]452078[/snapback]
Shh or you will be accused as being part of the Nazi squad wanting to take over all Forums.

Am I right in saying all Polish prossi's were put in consintration camps in WW2

My mum wasn't!
mortonjag 2008-05-25 23:04:33
QUOTE(Deego @ May 25 2008, 11:01 PM) [snapback]452096[/snapback]
I'm the source, as usual.

Please change the avatar-anything else will do-even Mr Rae.
mortonjag 2008-05-25 23:08:26
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ May 25 2008, 11:00 PM) [snapback]452094[/snapback]
Bristol stool chart anyone?

Of very limited value in reality unless you're a coprophagist looking for a menu!
mortonjag 2008-05-25 23:09:51
QUOTE(se65an @ May 25 2008, 11:08 PM) [snapback]452102[/snapback]
Why not? Heard it was good money at the time blink.gif

Indeed, but she worked in the Port.
mortonjag 2008-05-25 23:11:54
QUOTE(Deego @ May 25 2008, 11:07 PM) [snapback]452100[/snapback]
Why?

Because I cannot abide that mug shot, let alone those who glorify his crap lyrics.

Put Willie Shakespeare on immediately.
mortonjag 2008-05-25 23:13:35
QUOTE(Deego @ May 25 2008, 11:11 PM) [snapback]452106[/snapback]
Who is the biggest dick on the board?

MORTONJAG


There-thread closed! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-25 23:15:25 MORTONJAG[center][/center]
mortonjag 2008-05-25 23:17:35
QUOTE(Deego @ May 25 2008, 11:14 PM) [snapback]452112[/snapback]
You're more of a fud.

Now, now-you'll be upsetting people if you start using words like fud or buffoon-we don't want to irritate the big knobs!
mortonjag 2008-05-25 23:19:24
QUOTE(Deego @ May 25 2008, 11:16 PM) [snapback]452115[/snapback]
blink.gif blink.gif blink.gif blink.gif blink.gif

What about Shakespeare's sister? biggrin.gif

http://youtube.com/watch?v=E-9itxGIt_c

Don't be obtuse-Port ton will explain if you've forgotten already.
mortonjag 2008-05-25 23:22:32
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ May 25 2008, 11:18 PM) [snapback]452117[/snapback]
Or looking for an immature giggle.

....*giggles*

I do have to say that the pictures bear little resemblance to the real thing. I've seen a more realistic plastic keech oot a joke shop-BUT this is a serious thread, and if it's very itchy when you're dumping, you've probably got worms.
mortonjag 2008-05-25 23:24:28
QUOTE(port-ton @ May 25 2008, 11:22 PM) [snapback]452123[/snapback]
i will? i love being an important part of this love triangle, so ill be as acute as ever and you two can be obtuse.

F*ck Pythagoras then? sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-25 23:26:09
QUOTE(se65an @ May 25 2008, 11:11 PM) [snapback]452105[/snapback]
Listen my nmae is se65an, accept it or go get yirself a new chef, but I will tell you, am the best. I can cook a brilliant scrabbled egg on toast in 7 mins

Nope-you're the Sioux Chef-only chapatis an fingz.
mortonjag 2008-05-25 23:27:39
QUOTE(Deego @ May 25 2008, 11:21 PM) [snapback]452121[/snapback]
mortonjag is a fud.

Signed Shoogly.
mortonjag 2008-05-25 23:31:39
QUOTE(Deego @ May 25 2008, 11:27 PM) [snapback]452127[/snapback]
i agree
about gardyne
he isnt a winger

you're right, he wasn't he worst signed by JM
finlayson was
i'm sorry you were upset

adam coakley was better
than people made him out to be


The monkey and

I are

Tired so it's goodnight from

Me and it's

Goodnight from

Him goodnight.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 07:28:11
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ May 26 2008, 12:27 AM) [snapback]452138[/snapback]
I used to play in goals for the old Albert team and can thoroughly recommend this game to anyone. I played in teams where we beat Dunoon although the last one I can remember was over there in 1997!!!!!

I'm too old to play now but if you're desperate for a goalkeeper call me.

Do you wear tee shirts?
mortonjag 2008-05-26 07:31:50
QUOTE(Rossco @ May 26 2008, 12:57 AM) [snapback]452145[/snapback]
Not funny at all mocking Peter for being dyslexic.

Would you be doing this if he hadn't slated station you have a slot on?

Thats one thing have noticed about your postings on here you can not take any criticism at all in anything you are involved in.

You got defensive over the stick official site took even though the criticism was aimed mostly at the club.

Now getting defensive over the your radio coverage.

The reason it puts work that hospital radio/inverclyde media do is because it is mostly voluntary work well I know the Hospital radio was & is something Peter has put a lot of time & effort into.

For your Radio to extend licence into this area when not supposed to or aren't paying for the priviledge hampers inverclydemedia from expanding.
Please do not upset the afflicted.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 07:36:15
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ May 25 2008, 11:38 PM) [snapback]452133[/snapback]
For those who like double entry (OOOHHH ERRRRR MISSUSS!)

Money received

Debit Bank
Credit Donations Received

Money spent on youth costs

Debit Youth Costs
Credit Bank.

I would assume
that is how the income will be recorded at Cappielow. This will then be collated, along with other financial transactions, into what are commonly called Management Accounts. These accounts are reviewed by the Board of Directors at their regular meetings. Any Director can ask questions on the accounts that have been presented to their meetings.

Once a year, these accounts are put into the correct format and are submitted for Audit. Bear in mind that the turnover at Cappielow is well below the audit threshhold so strictyly speaking an independent verification of the account, ie an audit, is not a statutory necessity. These accounts are then finalised, an audit opinion is offered by the independant auditor, and the accounts are circulated to shareholders before the annual general meeting. At the AGM any shareholder is entitled to question the accounts that have been produced.

Of course, I acknowledge that the accounts produced do so in an aggregate manner in that individual transactions become relatively hard to break down. I would imagine if money was "donated" for a specific purpose then it would be very simple to produce an analysis that shows where the income and expenditure went. Expenditure on the new disabled ramp would be such a case in point whereby donations could be ring fenced and "mini" accounts produced to highlight where the money went.

it is also worth noting that doing all of these has an administrative overhead - it costs money and time to produce all of theses mini statements. The Board of Directors would need to consider the costs involved against the benefits that could be accrued in this respect.

Hopefull this addresses MJ's question....

It does and thank you.

You merely make assumptions.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 07:41:41
QUOTE(Toby @ May 26 2008, 02:36 AM) [snapback]452161[/snapback]
I'm sure you're aware I'm thinking of a rather comical moment at Dunterlie Park, Barrhead last summer laugh.gif .



'Finally, after a scene with Andy and Teddy playing in their cart and a scene with Looby Loo singing her song, the two male characters return to their basket and wave good-bye and it's.......

Time to go home, time to go home
Andy is waving goodbye, goodbye' happy.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-26 07:50:30
QUOTE(port-ton @ May 25 2008, 11:32 PM) [snapback]452132[/snapback]
you've definetely done a complete 180o on your thoughts about pythagoras.

Are euclidding?
mortonjag 2008-05-26 07:54:19
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ May 26 2008, 12:21 AM) [snapback]452137[/snapback]
One does not 'cook' on a BBQ one 'heats' and in any case a charcoal BBQ is preferred over the gas option as the charcoal flavours the food . I despise the vulgarity of the BBQ. Drinking 'beer' rather than wine when preparing food is simply not on.

Next you'll be claiming that you "cook" with your microwave.

We've had this argument before from those who equate cooking with cremation, though there's nothing wrong with a good bier.

QUOTE(port-ton @ May 26 2008, 12:43 AM) [snapback]452141[/snapback]
what did you think of the chatuex '42 vintage red? it cleansed my palate undeniably but i felt it to be rather exuberant in the shade and texture department. It completely ruined my BBQ if im being honest.

I'd prefer to get into a cheeky wee three year old Californian any day.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 08:00:03
QUOTE(alexp @ May 26 2008, 01:15 AM) [snapback]452151[/snapback]
F1 thread tongue.gif
kind of died with vikington's disappearance wink.gif

while i like kimi, i agree. he should be ashamed for taking out sutil dry.gif

btw, it's montreal, not toronto. wink.gif smile.gif




QUOTE(vikingTON @ Mar 13 2008, 06:02 PM) *
I'm sure Alonso will make Hamilton's life difficult when being lapped.
Raikkonen to win - Ferrari dominant.
As it should be. cool.gif

Hamilton's a one off. His talent is ahead of his years and he'll win hands down this time.

This post has been edited by mortonjag: Mar 13 2008, 07:04 PM tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-26 08:04:11 In those days of mysteriously crashing servers, I have to say that the pictorially excellent official site has NEVER let me down. Time after time after time I've been able to read last month's news at my leisure in the sure certainty that it will still be there next time I log on.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 08:09:08 SEE-gloriously sunny morning-I've been up for hours, Munx and I have had our walk in the park, my beloved has been served breakfast in bed,and Fing's just finishing the Herald crossword for me as I type. It just feels good to be alive.

Inverclyde sleeps! blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-26 08:17:19 As above with a basic Gibson amp. and 'phones. I also have a virtually unused Yamaha keyboard (not one of the big posh ones).

The guitar is a beautiful peac***... blue mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif TURQUOISE THEN mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif and in excellent nick. I don't know its age as I purchased it second hand from a reputable dealer about five years ago (cost ~ £400 then).

I only play my accoustic now as I live in a flat next to Noddy and Big Ears, so I'd be willing to part with that lot for any offer that I did not regard offensive. (the guitar etc.... the neighbours are thrown in for nothing)

pm the Jag if interested.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 08:27:35
QUOTE(Trick37 @ May 26 2008, 08:10 AM) [snapback]452174[/snapback]
So, MJ, is THAT it?

Everyone, we solved the "issues" with MJ..... tongue.gif
Just kidding, mate. smile.gif

laugh.gif

I do believe there's a crumb of truth in that old saying Trick.

There's really no secret to my endless talent, ability, and charm-I was simply born perfect and improved with age.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 08:30:53
QUOTE(midTONs @ May 26 2008, 08:27 AM) [snapback]452177[/snapback]
Come back and tell us all about it when you have a 7061 & 7062. rolleyes.gif

laugh.gif

I know how you feel-some c*nts on this board would tell me in detail how to insert a catheter. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-26 08:35:17
QUOTE(Trick37 @ May 26 2008, 08:31 AM) [snapback]452179[/snapback]
(*Spits coffee all over his laptop*)

Ye jest, of course.

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laugh.gif

mad.gif

Mortonjag's ineffable brilliance is no jesting matter.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 08:37:01
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ May 26 2008, 08:33 AM) [snapback]452180[/snapback]
I'm up, showered, dressed, had my breakfast and coffee and ready to go.

I feel old.

That is indeed the province of the young. Just try feeling yourself! happy.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-26 08:40:48
QUOTE(Trick37 @ May 26 2008, 08:08 AM) [snapback]452172[/snapback]
Today is Memorial Day in the States. It's one of two days that we reflect on those who have served in our military in the past, and those who are serving now. (The other day is Veterans' Day, which is 11 November....your Remembrance Day, I believe.)

Although this is an American holiday, I'd like to take the time to say "thank you" to my military brothers and sisters (past and present) on this board, as well as to their family members that have served, and are serving now. My hat's off to you!

(*Stands up and gives a sharp salute in gratitude.*)

smile.gif

In those days of rampant anti-States fever over here, folk would do well to remember the input of our American brothers in the defeat of Hitler's Reich.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 08:42:44
QUOTE(se65an @ May 26 2008, 08:34 AM) [snapback]452181[/snapback]
Who needs a 7061 or a 7062 when I have a tesco value toaster at £4.99

Ours lasted four months Sean-FACT!
mortonjag 2008-05-26 08:46:38
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ May 26 2008, 08:38 AM) [snapback]452184[/snapback]
Not good, MJ! I still feel old. unsure.gif

How do you wish to feel young man? It's all about your selfish team as the Monkey describes it.

I believe you are young, intelligent, handsome, and witty. Don't let the wee willy hold you back-it's what you do with it that counts-or so the Polis keep telling me.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 08:58:06
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ May 26 2008, 08:52 AM) [snapback]452188[/snapback]
Oh. Old to you must be pre-historic to me.

I meant I feel twice my age. smile.gif

I can give you some therapy-port ton's my agent!

QUOTE(Trick37 @ May 26 2008, 08:53 AM) [snapback]452189[/snapback]
MortonJag and brilliance are an oxymoron in a sentence together......unless, of course, you say "MortonJag has the brilliance of an amoeba." tongue.gif laugh.gif smile.gif

That is the epitome of oxymoron-any amoeba I've ever met has been dazzlingly dull.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 09:03:52
QUOTE(Trick37 @ May 26 2008, 08:54 AM) [snapback]452190[/snapback]
That, sir, was VERY much appreciated. Thank you. smile.gif

'Lest we forget' Trick.

My Dad died two years ago and my Mum's still alive They lived through those years of austerity-my Mum tells of months on end when she didn't even know if my dad (stationed abroad) was alive or dead. The stories are endless and sometimes still bring a tear to the eye.

Today's youngsters really DON'T know they're living.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 09:58:55
QUOTE(Alibi @ May 26 2008, 07:58 AM) [snapback]452169[/snapback]
Over 106,000 at the league cup final. As for the B&Q final, I'm pretty sure we had at least as many as Hamilton - we do have a bigger support than them - and they weren't an SPL club because SPL clubs didn't take part in that competition.

My first game was in April or May 1963 at home to Queens Park. I think we won 4-1.

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I was of course tongue in cheek about Hamilton who currently have an inflated opinion of their value and potential. They have done extremely well-we would do worse than to emulate them, but they don't have the fan base to sustain financial security in the top league.

mortonjag 2008-05-26 10:01:34
QUOTE(The Naitch @ May 26 2008, 09:35 AM) [snapback]452207[/snapback]
What's your point, caller?

My point is that Jim Thomson scored a crackin' goal on Saturday! I thought you would have understood that!
mortonjag 2008-05-26 10:04:12
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 26 2008, 09:14 AM) [snapback]452195[/snapback]
Beer is not needed. I find that a beaker of the warm south is most fitting.

Charcoal is the way to go.

...and you a good Tim! ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-26 10:11:33
QUOTE(Alibi @ May 26 2008, 10:04 AM) [snapback]452213[/snapback]
Mr Mileson appears to have made a remarkable recovery from his vegetative state. Maybe it was a typo and what was meant was that he had become a vegetarian.

http://boards.footymad.net/mboard/fmb.php?...;mid=2129470413
(I can't seem to get that thing where you put in a witty phrase instead of the url as the link to work)

If you google Mileson on Wikipedia he's now stated to be broke with a personal overdraft of half a million!

I suspect his legal and accountancy teams will be able to keep him ahead of the pack-that's the way those pond life survive.

Meanwhile I believe it's Wilson Field's incestuous relationship with the SPL which ought to be exposed, and that's where I believe the local MSP/MP should be getting involved.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 10:14:32
QUOTE(Trick37 @ May 26 2008, 09:27 AM) [snapback]452203[/snapback]
Cousin!

(Wouldn't you just love that!) smile.gif tongue.gif
You really should quit having discussions with yourself, mate. tongue.gif

I can't think of a single soul who's better company!
mortonjag 2008-05-26 10:16:45
QUOTE(Malt @ May 26 2008, 10:10 AM) [snapback]452214[/snapback]
Still no confirmation that he is a Morton Player?

That appears to be the case!
mortonjag 2008-05-26 11:22:12
QUOTE(Alibi @ May 26 2008, 10:28 AM) [snapback]452222[/snapback]
It was a belter!

Q: What's got an IQ of 250 and doesn't make a sound?

A: The entire Rangers support when JT's header hit the back of the net.

The Naitch may feel offended! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-26 11:26:05
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ May 26 2008, 10:24 AM) [snapback]452219[/snapback]
And using a fans forum works wonders? laugh.gif

Do not underestimate the value of fans' forums young man!
mortonjag 2008-05-26 11:29:26
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 26 2008, 10:52 AM) [snapback]452235[/snapback]
Bigotry 3- Fitba 2

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mortonjag 2008-05-26 11:41:59
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 26 2008, 11:11 AM) [snapback]452238[/snapback]
Today's youngsters really DON'T know they're living.

Too right, MJ.

My father was 17 when Greenock was bombed in 1941.

They lived in Brachelston Street and several buildings took direct hits.

My grandmother signed his volunteer papers the next day.

He served in east Africa, India and Burma and was mentioned in despatches.

An incendiary bomb landed in my Grand Dad's back garden in Bawhirley Road-they were very lucky to escape unscathed.

The tenement next to my other Grandparents in Belville St was flattened-many friends perished. A huge bomb crater lay about fifty yards down the hill for many many years after the war.

Greenock escaped lightly compared to Clydebank.

On a funny but sad note, my Grand Dad was charged and taken to court for not turning up for 'blackout duty'. He was admonished when he explained he was a widower with six children to care for-they could not be left alone overnight.

When the air raid warnings went, they all used to huddle under the big wooden kitchen table-as if that would have really made much difference with a direct hit-just think of the terror those poor kids must have experienced.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 12:22:26
QUOTE(The Naitch @ May 26 2008, 11:50 AM) [snapback]452256[/snapback]
You really are getting more cryptic as the days roll by. huh.gif blink.gif












QUOTE(mortonjag @ May 25 2008, 10:19 AM) *
There's a lesson to be learned by some of our younger posters when they write off potential signings as 'over the hill'. Yesterday we had Thomson scoring a cracking goal in the Scottish cup final, and Windass in his fortieth year achieving even greater things.

If you're good enough, you're young enough!


QUOTE (the naitch)


Have I missed something? unsure.gif

mortonjag 2008-05-26 12:32:49 Our fans never cease to amaze me. Time after time when folk pled for experience the reply came-'where are we going to get it'-'there's no money' etc., etc.

It's clear that Davie Irons is on a strictly limited budget, and deserves credit for making what will hopefully be astute signings.

Please don't let's get carried away-we've still no full backs and no wingers. The options are increasing though-that's good to see.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 12:39:29
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 26 2008, 11:47 AM) [snapback]452254[/snapback]
Would that have been next to the old Belville School, between Belville Street and St Lawrence Street?

I was brought up right across the street and can just about remember the school and the waste ground next to it was called the 'Bombees' as it was where a German bomb had landed.

What a great adventure playground that was.

It was just as the hill levels out at the top-probably level with the middle block of high flats. There was an area of waste ground below and the bomb crater was right in the middle-though my memories are from the fifties.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 12:41:53
QUOTE(WillowMan @ May 26 2008, 12:03 PM) [snapback]452262[/snapback]
I have a Junk Room and after reading this thread I went and explored it.

Unfortunately I found Mrs Willowwoman in it, she was dead of course and I've no idea how long she's been lying there amongst the junk.

Cela Vie

Willowlady! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-26 12:43:23
QUOTE(port-ton @ May 26 2008, 12:28 PM) [snapback]452277[/snapback]
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i've seen people arrested for a lot lot less.

That's why I left Inverclyde.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 13:33:19
QUOTE(The Naitch @ May 26 2008, 12:43 PM) [snapback]452287[/snapback]
The only cracking goal I saw on Saturday was Boyd's free kick. wink.gif

Now you are being VERY knotty-bend over boy-WALLOP, WALLOP! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-26 13:53:14
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ May 26 2008, 01:15 PM) [snapback]452302[/snapback]
Whilst it's a worthy and admirable effort, I have disagreed many times with the fundraising for the disabled area and ramp. Why should the fans pay out of their own pockets so that Morton's disabled support can reach and watch the game in safety and comfort. In a bid to reach out to the entire local community and attract the bums on seats Rae craves, surely funding access improvements and making Cappielow an enjoyable place to watch football should come straight from the club? This wrankles with me more than the youth setup to be honest.

I believe you've highlighted a very important point-that of 'divide and rule'.

It enrages me, for example, that Rae flouts all official guidance and common sense by, I'm led to understand, refusing to purchase a defibrillator for use on match days. Some clown claimed recently that the 'club doctor-Dr Speirs carries one in his case'! rolleyes.gif

The tabloids could have a field day on this one if, God forbid, a player succumbed for the want of the equipment.

Many of us have specialist knowledge, but that should not deflect our attention from the bigger picture, namely that the club is run in a very amateurish way with scant regard for the paying customer. Indeed one could be forgiven for feeling that the current Chairman believes the fans have a DUTY to him.

DUTY or not, money which is donated to 'the club' for a specific purpose MUST be seen to reach its intended goal.

Airy fairy assumptions about future accounting for statutary purposes are fatuous in the extreme.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 14:06:43
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 26 2008, 01:43 PM) [snapback]452318[/snapback]
Things are shaping up nicely indeed Col, but I'll be happier still when we sign a good striker.

Away an bile yer heid Edwards-we have four strikers, no wingers, no full backs, and one goalie! laugh.gif

To avoid the inevitable-Spoonsy (who was, is, and always will be a striker), LEAFY, super Khali, and Graham.

Some may wish to append our latest striker signing Kevin Finlayson, and of course we also have Jimbo, Jenkins, and McGuffie-all of whom have in the past been described as 'strikers'.

I'm happy that the squad is stronger and more experienced-it already has a mid table look-next signing should be somebody who knows how to put over a good cross-that's what makes strikers work! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-26 14:15:10 Hee hee-the short memories of the average fan!

Spoonsy's ability is MILES ahead of Khali's.

A decent winger- a fit and motivated Weatherson, and Wakey will be warming the bench or worse.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 14:16:49
QUOTE(Boozehound @ May 26 2008, 01:32 PM) [snapback]452309[/snapback]
Any pics of it Jagermeister?

I'll get one on for tomorrow BH!
mortonjag 2008-05-26 14:19:38
QUOTE(port-ton @ May 26 2008, 12:47 PM) [snapback]452289[/snapback]
i always wondered why you left just as i turned 4 years old.

It was two years ago PT not last year.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 14:26:29
QUOTE(WillowMan @ May 26 2008, 01:20 PM) [snapback]452304[/snapback]
WillowWarmer rolleyes.gif

Depends how long she's been deid.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 14:44:43
QUOTE(The Naitch @ May 26 2008, 02:38 PM) [snapback]452348[/snapback]
Well, he's at that age. rolleyes.gif

Don't be a silly Billy-Boy!
mortonjag 2008-05-26 14:53:30
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 26 2008, 02:28 PM) [snapback]452340[/snapback]
Away and bile yer ain MJ. I said one good striker, I know we've got four of various other kinds. biggrin.gif

I mentioned EIGHT

Now let's be realistic-the past is past-Spoonsy had a stinker of a season like 75% of the squad under JM.

Anybody who can't see his potential is just not trying. To think that half our posters have been coming in their short trousers over a man who spend most of the season running about in circles-I ask you- and Super Khali -well one swallow doth not a summer make though it can get you done for drunk driving-where was I-oh aye strikers...



SPOONSY WAS, IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE A STRIKER


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mortonjag 2008-05-26 14:58:05
QUOTE(forza ton @ May 26 2008, 01:54 PM) [snapback]452323[/snapback]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrtS0dCIJzw an under rated band if ever there was one

that is all

Heard better (and similar) on a Sunday School trip! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-26 15:01:25 Has NOBODY done a jobby today-what are they putting in the Inverclyde water-wait-I think I know who's to blame! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-26 15:15:03
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ May 26 2008, 03:10 PM) [snapback]452357[/snapback]
Hasnt Irons said he is signing a Striker and Goal Keeper and thats all ??

I reckon he is playing 3 at the back Deego so no need for a left back

So no wingers and no full backs-but ANOTHER bloody striker.

Another season of long balls, long thrown ins, and long yarns awaits by the look of it. Never mind-winning is the priority.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 17:09:03
QUOTE(paul_ton @ May 26 2008, 04:39 PM) [snapback]452383[/snapback]
i did say that my source was a reliable one at that but none of you believed me apart from leyTon so trust me next time

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Anybody who believes rumours on those forums is bonkers-anybody who disbelieves them is also bonkers.

Anyone who says- I'll wait and see is bonkers too-well you kinda have to be to support the Ton.

C'mon ye TON!
mortonjag 2008-05-26 17:16:04
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 26 2008, 04:13 PM) [snapback]452372[/snapback]
I'll give you a couple of quotes. who said this ? "One may dislike Hitler's system and yet admire his patriotic achievement. If our country were defeated, I hope we should find a champion as admirable to restore our courage and lead us back to our place among the nations."

and this

"I do not admit... that a great wrong has been done to the Red Indians of America, or the black people of Australia... by the fact that a stronger race, a higher grade race... has come in and taken its place."

and this

"I do not understand the squeamishness about the use of gas. I am strongly in favour of using poisonous gas against uncivilised tribes" rolleyes.gif

I love wee quizzes Spurtle but don't quite see their point on this thread!

Politics and amorality make comfortable bedfellows-who said that?

Well it wasn't Churchill for a start-no it was Mortonjag! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-26 17:18:20
QUOTE(Boozehound @ May 26 2008, 04:13 PM) [snapback]452373[/snapback]
I always drop tremendous jobbies after a heavy night on the swally. Gets the back of the legs wet and everything.

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...and you wonder if it's just water splashing up and put you hand down to check and..... laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-26 17:36:32
QUOTE(nach0king @ May 26 2008, 04:51 PM) [snapback]452390[/snapback]
I'm not trying to disrespect anyone here and I do have respect for those who serve, but I'd say since WW2 the tendency in the USA and the UK both has been for freedoms to be restricted during times of war to quite a severe extent.

Of course that's not an indictment of the soldiers - rather it's one of politicians.

As I say, no disrespect meant by this but I think the above isn't really true.

The thread is about memorial day-first introduced after the 'Civil War'.

The role of the soldier is to obey commands-NOT to question the morality of his masters.

The quoted excerpt is very real for me in terms of the last time our nation came under threat from unwanted forces. I don't believe many people condone war, but in some circumstances it is surely a necessary evil.

My father certainly had no choice-he gave up six years of his young life, and his subsequent career prospects were significantly hampered as he fought for King and Country.

In his case, I'd suggest that the quoted lines are entirely appropriate-indeed, as they suggest, without him and so many like him, posting fanciful notions on unofficial football messageboards would probably be an impossibility.

Memorial days are not a time for scoring cheap political points.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 21:03:52
QUOTE(ThornTON @ May 26 2008, 07:38 PM) [snapback]452429[/snapback]
Looking at league goals. One a legend. One a "total waste of space".

Rowan Alexander 98 in 310 = 0.316 p/game
Peter Weatherson 59 in 166 = 0.355 p/game

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QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ May 26 2008, 08:14 PM) [snapback]452449[/snapback]
I think this is what Masterton has been signed for. His ability to deliver a decent cross is amongst the best in this division. You may recall he came on against us at Cappielow and his crosses were responsible for the two late goals. I also saw him against Alloa and Airdrie in the play off games at Broadwood and his crosses caused mayhem in the penalty area. He has the happy knack of consistently dropping the ball into that area that catches the goallie in will I/won't I come for it territory and that impacts badly on the rest of the defence. Three of Clyde's goals against Alloa came from that.



If you are talking about a 'hit the byeline and cross or cut back' winger, Finlayson has been improving in that area for some time and I think can do a job for us. McAllister is also good at hitting the byeline but needs to work on his end product.



I'm sure Masterton will be an asset in certain situations and he's a good signing.

I wish I could share your optimism about Finlayson and McAlister-frankly their ability to 'get the ball over' be it a high cross, a cut back, or just a speculative belt across the face of the goal, is nothing short of abysmal. Indeed it has improved a little of late - particularly in Kev's case - to the degree where you now expect at least two decent crosses in a game.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 21:06:41 There's no money left. If DI signs another striker given the remaining gaps in the squad, he's lost his bloody marbles.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 21:21:44
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ May 26 2008, 06:27 PM) [snapback]452416[/snapback]
Dear Doctor

When i was a young man, and capable of downing more than four pints of guinness without making a tit of myself, I used to produce tremendous black jobbies after a night on the guinness. I always assumed that this was the iron escaping. Was I correct?

You were correct in assuming that the Guinness was producing dark jobbies, though I don't think it's caused by iron so much as simply by a staining effect-the same can occur in folk addicted to liquorice. Iron supplements cause dark motions too-sometimes they are black, but nothing quite simulates the black 'tarry' jobby (melaena) associated with altered blood in the bowel.

Beetroot can cause alarming 'beeturia' simulating bright red blood in the widdles-but this thread's about jobbies.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 21:30:07
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 26 2008, 05:28 PM) [snapback]452407[/snapback]
I can't quite see the link either, d'ye think he OD'ed on heather ale?

Not Spurtle-he's a peaty punch man!

mortonjag 2008-05-26 21:32:14
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ May 26 2008, 08:47 PM) [snapback]452457[/snapback]
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The only thing he is fast in is when he driving like a maniac in his wee car laugh.gif

Anyway, i'll go for the folk from Cappielow who hide behind id's on here wink.gif

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The infiltrators! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-26 21:37:09
QUOTE(piehutt @ May 26 2008, 06:41 PM) [snapback]452418[/snapback]
Holiday Insurance is for poofs!

Trust Professor Piehole to yet again state the obvious, though straight folk are allowed to purchase too.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 21:40:38
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 26 2008, 09:13 PM) [snapback]452472[/snapback]
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ooooooops-I forgot about the sportsmans' dinner and the fans' footy match! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-26 21:42:58 I was talking to a physio this afternoon.

It seems there may be some truth in this story.

Cappie is also in for the snip I believe.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 21:47:35
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ May 26 2008, 09:42 PM) [snapback]452493[/snapback]
Going by all the latest posts

Deego is trying to catch up with MJ on the post count laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-05-26 21:51:12
QUOTE(Edinton @ May 26 2008, 03:40 PM) [snapback]452362[/snapback]
what size / wattage is the amp?

Just a basic 100 watt-I'll try to show it alongside the guitar.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 21:55:24
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 26 2008, 09:48 PM) [snapback]452498[/snapback]
Hindsight is a wonderful thing......At the end of the day, Germany invading Poland had nothing to do with Scotland, so I could understand where they were coming from on that one.

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mortonjag 2008-05-26 21:56:51
QUOTE(Deego @ May 26 2008, 09:51 PM) [snapback]452500[/snapback]
Naw, his burd is Lorraine, remember?
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mortonjag 2008-05-26 21:59:20 I thank God for giving me a glorious day.

If it wasn't God, I thank whoever was responsible.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 22:04:53
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ May 26 2008, 09:56 PM) [snapback]452506[/snapback]
But oh aye, bring back McGowan! laugh.gif

While acknowledging the high proportion of graduates, qualified tradesmen, and trainee clergymen among the Professional footballing fraternity, it must be accepted that the occasional 'wee ned' has made a successful career out of kicking a ball.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 22:08:04
QUOTE(leyTON @ May 26 2008, 10:03 PM) [snapback]452512[/snapback]
ah thats him

Quiche Lorraine?
mortonjag 2008-05-26 22:11:51
QUOTE(MasterTon @ May 26 2008, 10:07 PM) [snapback]452514[/snapback]
Well spotted Bryan, But would rather see how the first six games pan out before i make judgement of the team. Winning last two games was great but we were playing deadwood who had nothing to play for. And yes, I'm looking forward to the new season but i really think it will end up in tears with those two at the back.

Ian

I suspect you may be correct-without a dwarf in central defence they will struggle.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 22:48:37
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 26 2008, 10:33 PM) [snapback]452520[/snapback]
I thought only dugs in the 60s and early 70s produced white jobbies? unsure.gif

You've been eating too much Belgian chocolate-dogs rarely live beyond 15.

There are many causes of pale stools apart from white paint-the most common being obstructive jaundice-also known to produce orange Tims.

Malabsorption of food produces steatorrhoea-pale and highly smelly jobbies which float on the water-Barium meals produce heavy white unflushable sh*te.

mortonjag 2008-05-26 22:57:13
QUOTE(se65an @ May 26 2008, 10:37 PM) [snapback]452523[/snapback]
You'll get barred for saying that rolleyes.gif

Ah stuff it, he's right, its been as slow as a a bank holiday weekend in Dalrymple Street for months.

David you need to get this sorted mate, been down a few time recently(like today) as well

Thank goodness others are having the same problem-it's been driving me nuts-VERY annoying.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 22:59:08
QUOTE(LargsTON @ May 26 2008, 10:57 PM) [snapback]452531[/snapback]
If you can find yer willy! laugh.gif

...and his bum.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 23:05:58
QUOTE(drobton @ May 26 2008, 10:00 PM) [snapback]452510[/snapback]
But isn't a striker one of the remaining gaps, or are you happy with just Wake, Russell and Graham.

I believe the lack of a striker is one of the biggest myths at Cappielow and Spoonsy's the best of the lot.

The truth is that for over two seasons we've hardly seen a decent cross into the box, and the through ball's become a thing of the past. If you don't believe me-just look at the difference Pantaloons made when he arrived-PURELY because he was able to put bloody throw ins into the box.

We need a goalie, at least one full back, and an effective wide player before the luxury of yet another striker.
mortonjag 2008-05-26 23:08:55
QUOTE(LargsTON @ May 26 2008, 11:00 PM) [snapback]452533[/snapback]
steady! laugh.gif

Just sticking up for the minority! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-26 23:23:06
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ May 26 2008, 11:16 PM) [snapback]452540[/snapback]
It's always an excellent feeling when dropping a jobby after a night out on the booze and a late night kebab. Although there is nothing worse than a jaggy-jobby where yer arse starts to sweat and ye slide off the pan.

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mortonjag 2008-05-26 23:25:13
QUOTE(GeorgeMichaelTon @ May 26 2008, 11:22 PM) [snapback]452544[/snapback]
Dr Sexjag, can you tell an old rocker if jobbies can give any indications of STD's?

That b*****d Ridgley wants to know. Not me, Ridgley. He's such a tart.

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I'm sure there will be some vague symptoms/signs but diseases of the Willie tend to spare its receptacle!
mortonjag 2008-05-26 23:27:20
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 26 2008, 11:20 PM) [snapback]452543[/snapback]
A good pipe leads to a good post.

QED!
mortonjag 2008-05-26 23:40:49
QUOTE(Boozehound @ May 26 2008, 11:28 PM) [snapback]452553[/snapback]
Jagster, while yer dishing out the free medical advice, what's the best way to deal with acid reflux?

It's doing my head in! Or throat to be more precise.

It's such a common condition-where to start?

Are you overweight-do you smoke-do you drink too much? wink.gif

Forgetting that, and of course a sensible diet, there are many preparations which can neutralise acid or prevent its production. Gaviscon is a tried and trusted favourite, and cimetidine or ranitidine are now available over the counter, though the dosages are very small and it's an expensive business.

It's always best, of course, to consult your quack, just in case you're missing a duodenal ulcer, hiatus hernia, or something less common.

Emergency treatment-chilled milk-white bread-ice cream etc.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 07:23:34
QUOTE(Kekkoman @ May 26 2008, 11:52 PM) [snapback]452558[/snapback]
I have to say i agree wi the old todger. Unless we arent planning on using full back next season? but still obviously a keeper and an effective wide player should take priority over another striker

Hey you-less of the 'todger' if you don't mind-it's kindness to old todgers week in Belgium where they're known as 'Les Tetes Vides'.

Fud, fool, freak, phanny or slevering old c*nt are OK.

Your post highlights the problems with Shoogly being skint. The modern game is obsessed with 'formations', but I've always believed in trying to second guess the opposition. Not having full backs or wingers in the squad limits that possibility.


INDISPUTABLE FACT! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-27 07:32:18
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ May 27 2008, 12:23 AM) [snapback]452565[/snapback]
well i was buying zantac for a stomach ulcer, cos i couldnt get a prescription for esomeprazole 40mg quickly enough, the zantac was something like 4 quid a box, discovered tesco sell their own make of ranitidine 75mg for a quid for 12 tablets!
so what is the difference between ranitidine and esomeprazole? answer please doc cos they both seem to do the same thing!


Proton pump inhibitors (or "PPI"s) are a group of drugs whose main action is pronounced and long-lasting reduction of gastric acid production. They are the most potent inhibitors of acid secretion available today. The group followed and has largely superseded another group of pharmaceuticals with similar effects, but different mode-of-action, called H2-receptor antagonists. These drugs are among the most widely-selling drugs in the world as a result of their outstanding efficacy and safety.[1] Structurally, the vast majority of these drugs are benzimidazole derivatives; however, promising new research indicates that imidazopyridine derivatives may be a more effective means of treatment


Omeprazole and its derivatives are proton pump inhibitors, and have been found in many cases to be slightly more effective than H2 antagonists in preventing acid production. For everyday use, the advantage is probably much less than is often claimed.

It's always best to have a proper diagnosis established before self treatment, as those kind of drugs have very occasionally been known to mask early symptoms of stomach cancer.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 07:36:54
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 27 2008, 12:49 AM) [snapback]452573[/snapback]
Churchill was an obnoxious, racist, mysogynistic, imperialistic alcoholic who was drunk for the duration of WW2. You can't blame the era that he was born in for his rotten character - I'm sure that there were many of his generation who didn't share his reactionary views. However, his talent as a war leader emerged and matured just in time (he had failed miserably in WW1 with Gallipoli) and he was simply the right kind of jingoistic b*****d to rally and inspire the people of these islands to stave off the Nazi menace.

Indeed-Machiavelli before folk whose 'hearts are in the right place' if you want a job done properly Mr Edwards. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-27 07:41:41
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ May 27 2008, 07:34 AM) [snapback]452589[/snapback]
Finally a post where I can agree with the old todger laugh.gif

Will you be out selling Pis en Lits today for 'Les tetes vides'?
mortonjag 2008-05-27 13:37:52
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ May 27 2008, 09:31 AM) [snapback]452595[/snapback]
Peter may have his faults, but he's not a ned. I was thinking more along the lines of Gardyne, McLaughlin, Keenan and McAnespie. smile.gif
I know Paul McGowan and you'll never meet a quieter, more professional player. Did you ever hear anything bad about him during his time at Morton? Thought not. Yet another post from someone who doesn't know what they're talking about. tongue.gif

It's refreshing to hear that you DO know something Smiffy. The Jag also knows what he's talking about too, so why do you constantly claim otherwise?

There again, maybe you don't know Gowsa from a bran flake-would you care to PROVE your allegations-I suspect you've just got a personal vendetta against Greacen's Genitals-oh wait- did he shag your girlfriend-the slevering incontinent young fool? laugh.gif

QUOTE(pgmsc @ May 27 2008, 09:52 AM) [snapback]452598[/snapback]
But that is this board ST if you don't know anything make it up then go on to P&B and post the same message. There is not a lot you can do about it but if makes them feel important let them continue

I wish some folk who DO know things would have more courage of their convictions on this board. PLENTY is know about the youth set up for example.


I am correct? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-27 13:44:44
QUOTE(Tontaster @ May 27 2008, 12:34 PM) [snapback]452643[/snapback]
Why the hell do people want to get rid of weatherson okay he is slow but he scored ten goals last season which is the best in the team if he had scored two goals then fine but ten that isnt that bad .

People are entitled to their opinions-Spoonsy's a 'waste of space' except when he's knocking in the goals, when he's a 'waste of space waiting to happen'! wacko.gif

SPOONSY WAS, IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE A WASTE OF SPACE!


That's what they believe-quite simple really! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-27 13:50:55 Aye f*ck Dundee-what right have they spending money on players and decent wages when we're skint-that's not the way it's supposed to work-the niggardly miser types deserve all the success.

Indeed the world owes them a living.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 13:54:23
QUOTE(se65an @ May 27 2008, 07:33 AM) [snapback]452588[/snapback]
I always thought Cappie was a female, as you can't help but notice that there is no wobble bits down there tongue.gif

Females get 'the snip' too Sean-though if you read the match programme, Cappie seems to think it's a Tom!
mortonjag 2008-05-27 14:00:10
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 27 2008, 11:53 AM) [snapback]452630[/snapback]
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=570097

Would something like this happen in Scotland ?

Camden has a VERY small Muslim population ... 90%+ of students would have 30 miles of bus travel daily - each way.

And some bloody daft politicians had the Camden railway line pulled up in the late 1950s and the land sold.

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Tensions reached a climax in November when two pigs heads were rammed on metal stakes with an Australian flag draped between them at the school's proposed site.


I almost cried laughing at the thought of Bawheid and Wee Nickerless gazing vacantly across a saltire!
mortonjag 2008-05-27 14:02:07
QUOTE(Boozehound @ May 27 2008, 12:43 PM) [snapback]452644[/snapback]
*cough* No *cough*

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mortonjag 2008-05-27 14:17:16
QUOTE(tontastic @ May 27 2008, 02:00 PM) [snapback]452668[/snapback]
I rarely have problems with speed, but i do get occasional reports for some folk saying its always slow. My biggest problem is with NTL which randomly loses connection to the entire web for a minute or two every other night. I'm going to try a few tweaks for a couple of weeks to see if its a particular feature that is causing the problem.

I've had no problems with the site for weeks on end, but for the last few days the server's been very slow and unpredictable. There's no cable at this end if that's any help-just a very slow BT exchange line, but the speed's normally acceptable.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 14:23:39
QUOTE(maccaboy @ May 27 2008, 10:49 AM) [snapback]452614[/snapback]
no, he's NOT a fud.
Fuds are useful.



That's absolutely true-thanks for your support.

I didn't know you had a use for old Fuddy Duddies-whatever floats your boat though-enjoy!

Don't let them get too cold mind-old folks become hypothermic quicker than those of the little pink botties.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 14:27:11
QUOTE(Deego @ May 27 2008, 02:21 PM) [snapback]452676[/snapback]
It's always the physio.

Those pubic massage boards are a menace.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 14:29:01
QUOTE(se65an @ May 27 2008, 02:09 PM) [snapback]452673[/snapback]
Sure is one mixed up p***y then tongue.gif

I've often wondered if it isn't a real cat at all.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 14:47:31
QUOTE(se65an @ May 27 2008, 02:39 PM) [snapback]452682[/snapback]
I never knew the word p***y was a blocked word on here.



Yon b*****d from Sc***horpe in the peac*** blue leotard is one poofy p***y!

Wait-maybe he's not a p***y-maybe he's a real live ****.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 16:57:18
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 27 2008, 03:56 PM) [snapback]452721[/snapback]
I see some people want an 'outside' sponsor to display their logo on our strips.

We have had a variety of offers over the past few seasons but the powers that be have decided that we should have their own ridiculous sponsorship emblazoned on the tops.

I for one will not be walking about with that horrible ‘millions’ sticker on my top, Buchanans Toffees is bad enough, but that just takes the piss.

Amateurism at its best.

Indeed.

QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ May 27 2008, 04:19 PM) [snapback]452732[/snapback]
A sponsor is a sponsor FFS! They all look awful if you ask me, but if the club has turned down substantial investement just so that the Rae family can have their company's name on the shirts then I would be very disappointed.

You're getting a bit mixed up surely-an extra £5000 p.a. would do me.

QUOTE(Malt @ May 27 2008, 04:31 PM) [snapback]452740[/snapback]
I wouldn't mind if he put his Millions/Half Punder/Buchanans on the back of the shirt but he is taking the piss now having the Morton top as a promotional tool for his sweets.

Time we looked for the best possible deal for Morton FC and not Dougie Rae.


Correct
QUOTE(cmdc @ May 27 2008, 04:38 PM) [snapback]452745[/snapback]
The thing for me is, I can't imagine there being many bigger local businesses out there looking to sponsor the club than Buchanan's. If they use that to push a product, well so what...did Arsenal not have Dreamcast or something for a bit? If more people buy the product, Buchanan's is in a better position, and Morton will benefit from that. The First Division these days just isn't a hot-bed for potential sponsorship...the league itself struggled to find a sponsor! (And when it did, it was one which pushed a product!)

Would never be the same without the resistant Shooglyphiles-would it? Do you SINCERELY believe that keech? wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-27 17:02:15
QUOTE(leyTON @ May 27 2008, 03:03 PM) [snapback]452688[/snapback]
ill tell her you said that MJ
she wil chib you!!!! tongue.gif

Good I need a chibbing from French tart!
mortonjag 2008-05-27 17:06:55
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 27 2008, 03:55 PM) [snapback]452719[/snapback]
Good grief I do beleive that's Hillend Primary School in the background..... my old school.

Mortonjag's Mummy was Dux of said school.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 17:08:25
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 27 2008, 03:59 PM) [snapback]452723[/snapback]
Aye, that's absolutely hilarious, life must be a neverending barrel of laughs chez MJ.

I love the inbuilt emphasis.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 17:18:02
QUOTE(Lovedaddy @ May 27 2008, 04:40 PM) [snapback]452749[/snapback]
Its sickening that if your a scumbag/Junkie the system goes out its way to help you. Where as the people who work and pay taxes pay for the up keep of these low lifes its a joke.

Being the scum of the earth is a choice not a disease why should they be helped with my tax money?.

mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif

You'll have to be more specific and accurate if you want any support. I agree that what's happening is reprehensible.

I do NOT agree that drug addiction is 'not a disease', and I certainly do not agree that people with inherited addictive personalities are the 'scum of the earth'.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 17:29:29
QUOTE(Ton @ May 27 2008, 04:23 PM) [snapback]452733[/snapback]
All i can say is that at Youth meeting Jim Mc Coll was astounded that the u17's had not recieved kit as he had just handed over £2000 after xmass and that he would need to look into it ? not down to coaches not informing anyone as I know this was not the case as they had been informed by no less than 3 coaches and parents.

Ton-what exactly are you saying?

To whom did Jim McColl 'hand over' £2000, and on what understanding was it 'handed over'?

A Morton Director claims to be 'astounded'. That sounds like he was not party to the ultimate destination of the money!

If he had fully expected the under 17's to be supplied with kits, what was the result of his investigation?
mortonjag 2008-05-27 17:32:41
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 27 2008, 05:20 PM) [snapback]452766[/snapback]
If that is the case about the sponsorship I would not be shocked .

I made a suggestion about trying to get individual sponsorship at youth level but the answer I got was the difficulty in attracting sponsors .

Now that seems at odds with what you have said .

Who to believe in this type of situation ? rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2008-05-27 17:38:42
QUOTE(midTONs @ May 27 2008, 05:28 PM) [snapback]452769[/snapback]
I don't go in for all that inherited addiction stuff, if you don't want to try/start it then you don't, in my opinion there is no excuse, everyone knows the dangers and no more so than those growing up in this area.

That's an opinion to which you are entitled.

The huge weight of evidence supports the concept of inherited addictive personality.

I don't go in for all that inherited footballing skill stuff. If you want to be Ronaldo and don't try hard enough-don't make bloody excuses to midTONs! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-27 17:41:22
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ May 27 2008, 05:32 PM) [snapback]452773[/snapback]
It was Dougie Rae in the boardroom with Cappie the cat.

I was told Cappie had nothing to do with it.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 17:46:12
QUOTE(Jackie @ May 27 2008, 05:36 PM) [snapback]452774[/snapback]
Right. Seriously, have we even said we're going back in for this guy or is it just another fans fantasy?

'The club' would like to go back for him. Mr Rae valued him at £100,000 oot the Golden Casket a year ago, and Celtic have invested a full year since then, so I reckon they'll be looking for-say £150,000 - £200,000.

Peanuts to the Shooglemesister! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-27 17:49:57
QUOTE(BMC @ May 27 2008, 12:13 PM) [snapback]452637[/snapback]
If you can't get a buyer, I got a decent price for an old one in victor morris/the music shop they own a couple of doors down on argyle street.

Thanks-I'm not that desperate to sell, but it's lying doing nothing and that's a shame. For those interested I'm getting its fotie took tomorrow!
mortonjag 2008-05-27 17:52:45
QUOTE(scott_lithgows @ May 27 2008, 05:40 PM) [snapback]452778[/snapback]
If you go to Morrisons in Greenock and use the cash machine on the left,it always issues Bank of England notes.

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Well Uncle William is English, but 'proud to serve Scotland'.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 18:23:45
QUOTE(midTONs @ May 27 2008, 06:06 PM) [snapback]452787[/snapback]
I would agree that alcohol abuse causes more violent crime than drug abuse but drug abuse cause more dishonesty crime than alcohol abuse with more and more of it becoming violent, if alcohol is to remain legal then people need to be educated more and our drinking culture needs to be addressed, if they banned drink tomorrow I wouldn't give a flying feck I can take it or leave it.
It's a cop out a bit like when 'beasts' use the excuse I became a child abuser because I was abused myself, aye f***ing right, they are the ones who should know better than most. Excuse Excuse.

Both my mother and Father smoked and so did their parents, Myself, my sister and my brother don't and have never smoked, so where does that leave the inherited theory now.



It might be described as a 'cop out' when an 'alky' or 'junkie' tries to escape responsibility for the results of his addiction.

That does NOT mean that he chose to become addicted-those-like yourself-who have been able to enjoy alcohol responsibly, and stop without difficulty, are regarded by many experts in the addiction field as 'the fortunate ones'.


The same could be said of those who are able to use other addictive drugs in a similarly responsible way.


As my little Belgian friend points out correctly, people unfortunately don't know they'll get hooked before they start smoking, drinking, taking drugs, or putting two bob on a cuddy.

It's a lottery Jim-think yourself lucky.

Many a man has genuinely DESPERATELY wanted to stop smoking/drinking/gambling/ drug abuse, only to find he is powerless, and in many cases that his life has become unmanageable because of his 'habit'.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 19:16:13
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 27 2008, 06:32 PM) [snapback]452799[/snapback]
Having had the unfortunate experience of living among these human gutter species I would advocate placing them all on a sandbank in the middle of the Clyde and then await the tide coming in. I lived in 2 good council run areas that were both ran into the ground by these scumbags, who care not a jot for anyone bar themselves (and even that is debatable)

And before anyone cries that is a bit harsh, go and live among them for a wee while and then come back with an honest opinion.

Life is very cheap in a raving junkies eyes.

On midTONs point, I like a pint but I would love this country to go down the route of Norway and make alchohol a luxury, not as we have in our society drink so cheap it costs less than water.

The results of addiction are often horrendous, and like yourself, I feel very little sympathy when law abiding folk suffer at the hands of junkies, drunk drivers, etc.

Where I've taken issue is with the popular notion that the 'gutter species' you abhor CHOOSE to end up with what you quite correctly describe as no self respect.

I have been fortunate-sadly not often enough-to see some such 'scumbags' finally address their problems and re-establish themselves as valuable and valued members of society.

I have a specialist interest in the field of addiction, and voluntarily counsel youngsters with addictive illness.

It's too easy to tar them all with the same brush-addictive illness is indiscriminate, affecting rich, and poor alike, and cutting right across the social spectrum.


I'll never forget an old 'down and out' being brought into Glasgow Royal when I was an impressionable young student. I couldn't understand why they were wasting their time on folk like that.

It turned out that he was well known in the unit-a severe alcoholic, and a Professor at the University. They always managed to get him dried out, re-nourished, and discharged full of good intentions, and inevitably he'd end up back where he'd started a few months later.

Mind you I'm talking about forty years ago when there were no re-hab units and most chronic 'alkies' ended up in Ravenscraig type asylums, if they didn't die first. In those days addiction was simply seen as 'lack of moral fibre'.

It's sad that we seem to have hardly moved forward in almost two generations when it comes to health education.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 19:28:03
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 27 2008, 07:08 PM) [snapback]452812[/snapback]
i don't think you flout guidance - you either accept or reject it



flout is a rather loaded word, odd to find such a word here tongue.gif '.

i think the defibrillator issue is a classic red herring - why isn't here a compulsory bp / bmi / vo2 / blood alcohol (?) test etc. at the entry to the turnstiles - that would save more lives surely?


'flout'
–verb (used with object) to correctly describe Rae's reported behaviour---
to treat with disdain, scorn, or contempt; scoff at; mock: -the way you often deserve to be treated!


You clearly have less medical knowledge than common sense, and you're not very richly endowed in the latter department.

Anyway, Trumpet-away and pester the children-you're wearisome and played out.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 19:39:34
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 27 2008, 07:15 PM) [snapback]452813[/snapback]
did you say you had trouble with the neighbours? unsure.gif

No
mortonjag 2008-05-27 19:42:49
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 27 2008, 07:33 PM) [snapback]452823[/snapback]
i say, has someone hacked mj's account again?? wub.gif

No
mortonjag 2008-05-27 19:45:16
QUOTE(MasterTon @ May 27 2008, 06:20 PM) [snapback]452795[/snapback]
Sick topic

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mortonjag 2008-05-27 19:47:06
QUOTE(port-ton @ May 27 2008, 06:56 PM) [snapback]452807[/snapback]
only two years? its feels like a lifetime ago for me. sad.gif

That's because you're so young-when you get to my age the years just fly past!
mortonjag 2008-05-27 19:52:03
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ May 27 2008, 06:23 PM) [snapback]452797[/snapback]

I don't.

I prefer to choose the charities I assist.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 19:55:19
QUOTE(MUZDEE @ May 27 2008, 07:43 PM) [snapback]452828[/snapback]
I can guarantee you Mcmenamin isn't on even half of what has been quoted on this thread. We are being very careful with the funds now as we dont want to even contemplate going into admin again. We have had cash injections from local businesses which may be funding a few of these signings. We don't have an overdraft with the bank so thankfully cant get into trouble that way.

We used to be in that position too-well from one local business.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 20:19:32
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 27 2008, 08:04 PM) [snapback]452839[/snapback]
I know I seem to be having a go at Jim McColl in his role incharge of youth development but this sort of revelation puts the guy in a terrible position .
If he hands over money in good faith and then has to face questions about why the absence of kit .
If the Trust representative on the board is unaware where such donations are being spent then obviously this thread is valid .

I don't know the background to this. I only know Jim McColl to see. He looks a very quiet and inoffensive chap-the sort you wouldn't imagine would say 'boo' to a goose, and he always smiles to the others in the directors box on Saturday afternoons, but I've never seen him talking to them.

I repeatedly hear him described as 'The Trust's representative on the Board' and I see him listed as a Director, the others being Crawford Rae, and Alistair Donald.

Is the Trust entitled to change the Representative if it feels Mr McColl is being left out in the cold, and has been handing money over without knowledge of how it is thereafter disbursed?

It seems to me that poor Mr McColl may feel caught between the devil and the dark blue sea.

As I said, I don't know much about this aspect of Greenock Morton.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 20:22:49
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 27 2008, 07:46 PM) [snapback]452831[/snapback]
are you not being a bit negative right now?

Would you like to buy a guitar?
mortonjag 2008-05-27 20:26:56
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 27 2008, 07:55 PM) [snapback]452835[/snapback]
genuine laugh.gif at the posts in this thread smile.gif

i have a weakness for nearly wasted batteries - you never know when they might come in handy biggrin.gif

not to mention attics - my mum's house (old scalextric, subbuteo, 60's vintage morton programmes with rusty staples), former home (there's a vox ac30 in there somewhere unsure.gif ) etc.

picked up any good cardboard today?
mortonjag 2008-05-27 20:30:06 The Club are pleased to confirm that Kevin Finlayson has, this afternoon, agreed a deal which sees him stay at Cappielow for the next two years.

Finlayson, who scored against Dunfermline and Partick in the final two matches of last season, said "I really wanted to stay at Cappielow, so I'm delighted that an agreement has been reached. "
mortonjag 2008-05-27 20:33:58
QUOTE(MUZDEE @ May 27 2008, 08:28 PM) [snapback]452854[/snapback]
I do find it quite astounding that any local business is putting any money in cause of the way they lost quite a lot when we went into admin. Although it's good to see money being put into the club again.

It sounds like there may be some local confidence in the Dundee Chairman and Board.

Mr Rae has been utterly dynamic in that respect, and I was gutted to see Rangers win on Saturday.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 20:38:09
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 27 2008, 08:28 PM) [snapback]452853[/snapback]
You sound as if you have some experience in these matters. Was it 'chocks away' with fly boy McB ? laugh.gif
I'm not sure about the accuracy either - I suppose it would be easy to imagine that the planes were flying right over the rooftops when you were hiding under the table in a room and kitchen. Bloody frightening it must have been.

I distinctly recall my Mum describing a situation where a plane had strafed civilians and they 'could actually make out the pilots face'. It sounds a wee bit fanciful to me but I'll ask her when she comes back from her week's holiday.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 20:42:08
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 27 2008, 08:29 PM) [snapback]452855[/snapback]
Even the most amiable of people would feel let down by being put in such a position .

Was Mr McColl selected because of his amiability?
mortonjag 2008-05-27 20:44:03
QUOTE(Deego @ May 27 2008, 08:37 PM) [snapback]452858[/snapback]
Aye, cool. Thanks for reminding me.

WELL-have we, or have we not signed McManus-all I have is a Tilly report, and they've once been wrong before.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 20:51:12
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 27 2008, 08:17 PM) [snapback]452843[/snapback]
Are you Serious ??

You must be sharing the same gene pool as Piehutt ....

Would you rather be watching 1st Division football or 2nd Division . Surely its all about ambition to play at the highest level with supposedly a more professional set up .

I think it is a no brainer .

chrissiboi it would be good if you could spell out exactly what this is all about-it's obvious that the previous poster is one of those saddos-fortunately they seem to be gradually disappearing-who tries to defend the indefensible-you know-like not having a defibrillator at the ground despite strong recommendations from those who DO know what they're talking about.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 20:56:35
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 27 2008, 08:46 PM) [snapback]452866[/snapback]
no - i've got 4 already - but i'd urge you to keep yours unless it's really surplus to requirements

i do agree that a good acoustic is the fallback though

edit to add:
sorry to break the commercial thread

I should think so.

My wee grandson has six of those guitars btw
mortonjag 2008-05-27 20:58:44
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 27 2008, 08:53 PM) [snapback]452871[/snapback]
the trolley's full of it smile.gif

Cold East wind tonight! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-27 21:54:01 I didn't realise it had been closed-it WAS supposed to be a wee bit tongue in cheek, but was also making what I thought was a valid point. We DON'T yet have official confirmation of the McManus signing, and I DID praise the club for getting the Finlayson information on smartly.

Will we be getting an explanation?
mortonjag 2008-05-27 21:54:43
QUOTE(port-ton @ May 27 2008, 09:33 PM) [snapback]452894[/snapback]
complaints forum for this pish!

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mortonjag 2008-05-27 22:01:31
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 27 2008, 09:00 PM) [snapback]452875[/snapback]
why don't you take over from mr mccoll?

Would Mr Rae let me?

QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 27 2008, 09:01 PM) [snapback]452876[/snapback]
sorry, didn't read to the end of the thread before posting tongue.gif

Do you ever? dry.gif

QUOTE(Bryan @ May 27 2008, 09:30 PM) [snapback]452893[/snapback]
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Is it really so funny Bryan-do you believe Mr McColl's doing a good job?

As I've said he seems a thoroughly decent chap, but if he's handing over thousands of pounds from the Trust and then is dismayed when it seems not to have reached its intended goal, maybe the poor soul needs a well earned rest.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 22:20:03
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 27 2008, 10:09 PM) [snapback]452912[/snapback]
i dont think the chairman would let you in the board room, Mr McColl is doing a fine job but is not the director in charge of youth dev he just helps on the admin side.

The Chairman doesn't know me-why do you think he'd not let me into the Boardroom. Does the trust not have the final say in whom is appoints as 'its representative'? That was exactly what I meant when I asked if Mr McColl was appointed for his amiability.

According to Chrissiboi and others Mr McColl stated he is in charge of the Youth development.

Is this another case of the right hand not knowing what the left hand's doing? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-27 22:27:31
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 27 2008, 09:05 PM) [snapback]452878[/snapback]
still on the lanliq, not quite brasso

Ha the good old lanny-I thought it was a thing of the past!
mortonjag 2008-05-27 22:30:25
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 27 2008, 09:36 PM) [snapback]452898[/snapback]
well if you've stopped spanking it ...

MidTONs was NEVER the Monkey you buffon.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 22:35:05
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 27 2008, 09:50 PM) [snapback]452901[/snapback]
out of interest, what was the snp's poll rating in the thirties? (honest question: i don't know and neither do you)
not very well put, but otherwise hard to refute

so you guys (who bit) think that germany invaded poland because of absence of censure from the snp? huh.gif

What are you blabbering about Trumpet-time for the cardboard.

BTW if it's not too intrusive a question, where do you and your box reside? I've noticed you don't go to Morton matches.

I have this sneaking feeling you won't be for saying-that would fill me with great suspicion about your bona fides.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 22:42:37
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ May 27 2008, 10:30 PM) [snapback]452930[/snapback]
I see your folks lived on Bawhirley Road. Whereabouts? My wife's family all lived in one of the detached villas at the bottom of Bawhirley road - no 9 I think. They are Service family who were fruiterers in Greenock for many years.

My father in law is Donald Service (now 84) and he was in the RAF during the war and spent most of his time in Aden. He left to go there on a convoy from Greenock and always says that the most terrifying thing he lived through was a few days of U Boat attacks on the convoy, listening to explosions of depth charges plus a ship being hit etc whilst effectively locked in several decks below the waterline. He says that they were packed in like sardines and there was no way of getting out quickly if they needed to.

These years have turned out to be the most important in his life. He was a hostilities only man and so was away for 4 1/2 years with only the odd letter finding its way back and forward from home. As he has gotten older it has become his main topic of conversation when he's not slagging politicians. You can start a conversation on any subject you care to mention and he can turn it to the war! He has also, I might add, very strong views on how the politicians and not the soldiers c*** things up. If you meet him don't mention Iraq or Afghanistan unless you've got a few days free!!

They lived in a semi detached villa on the right hand side at the top of the hill (just before the wee crescent that curves round to Kilmacolm Road)-name of Craigmont which I believe it's still called.

My Mum's maiden name was Macgregor, and her Grandfather (Currie) had the house originally.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 22:45:04 Mine's still slower than usual but much better than this time yesterday.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 22:53:17
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ May 27 2008, 10:26 PM) [snapback]452924[/snapback]
I asked a perfectly reasonable question. Your response says far more about you than it does about me. You do have serious problems old man!! Hopefully you'll come to realise that before they cart you off.
This at least goes some way to answering my original post.

This still doesn't answer my original question of what makes the pro youth so much better. Beating one team no matter how good doesn't explain to me why its better to play Pro Youth than in any other league. It would be interesting to hear the Reggie Scorer's of this world opinion. Would they say Pro Youth is better?

I just asked the question as nobody has explained why it so much better to play Pro Youth. dry.gif

It's funny how your type always appears to lie happily when challenged while accusing ME of having problems.

I was taking your 'innocent' question in conjunction with all your previous 'innocent' questions. I concede, however, that you may indeed be a simple and disingenuous soul. If you have been misjudged I extend a wholehearted apology.
mortonjag 2008-05-27 23:07:58
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ May 27 2008, 11:02 PM) [snapback]452946[/snapback]
And what exactly is "my type"? I did ask a perfectly valid question which up till now nobody has actually answered.

But hey, lets not let the truth get in the way of a good yarn.

It's that sort of ridiculous point scoring comment which makes me doubt your innocence-but if you are indeed wholesome-I've already apologised.

Your type-probably Dalmatian-reknowed for loud barking and premature deafness.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 07:35:12 laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Others were less convinced!


Dr Richard Simpson, Shadow Health Minister, said under this new regime almost 21,000 patients had been "forced back to their GPs to start again at the end of the queue".

He called for research to find out more about their circumstances and what had happened to them. "Who are these patients? Were they consulted before being struck off the waiting list? We need far more detail," he said.

Liberal Democrat public health spokesman Jamie Stone also called for more information. He said: "We need to have evidence that these patients are being treated and not dropping out of the system."

The Scottish Consumer Council expressed concern about the degree to which patients understand the new practice. Liz Macdonald, policy manager for health and social care with the council, said: "It is not easy to understand the difference between the way waiting times were counted before and the way they are counted now.

"I know the government has made some efforts to produce some information for patients. They produced a leaflet, which we commented on, and they have recently revised it, but I am not sure myself that that information is hugely useful." She added that she hoped clearer guidance would be issued.


Bawheid's sidekick continues to pleasure herself at the expense of the truth.

I was visiting the Beatson Cancer unit with a relative yesterday-I'm told that The Royal Bank of Scotland has offered significant financial help to the institution, on the understanding that the bank's employees are given some benefits as a 'payback'.

I guess I could have started a controversial thread on that alone. Suffice to say that the majority of the caring folk in the Beatson welcome ANY funding which will help to tackle the scourge of cancer.

They, of course, know only too well, the REAL truth about waiting list times, when waiting list times really matter. sad.gif

The treatment of cancer is FAR too serious for political soccer.

18 weeks for a tattoo removal Nickerless-now I have to say that's highly impressive, and just consider-- you could have your necessary plastic surgery completed in less than six months.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 07:51:03
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 28 2008, 12:00 AM) [snapback]452967[/snapback]
http://health.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=269659

Polyester boxers
Poly/cotton boxers
Cotton briefs
Cotton/spandex briefs
Sports briefs which are made of a special synthetic fabric designed to keep you cool during exercise.

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In terms of health, fertility, and general comfort, if not street cred., loosely fitting cotton underpants are undoubtedly best.

Ladies are best to go knickerless, as the vulva appreciates a good airing.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 08:03:29
QUOTE(.:BrIDo:. @ May 28 2008, 02:02 AM) [snapback]452996[/snapback]
I think what Mortonjag is trying to say is that there is such a thing as addictive personalities and they can be inherited, leaving some people more prone to addiction than others.

That doesn't mean that you are going to become a smoker, an alcoholic or a drug addict if you have an alcoholic in the family. But if you do have a few alcoholics in the family, then chances are you're (key phrase here) more likely to develop some form of addiction (key phrase here) to something.

Off the top of my head, I can think of someone I know who is a drug addict, and I know for a fact that his Dad is an alcoholic. I can also think of someone who doesn't drink because he has two alcoholic uncles. And I can think of 3 people I know who are alcoholics and have an alcoholic Dad.

But you have to balance that against other factors. Did seeing they're relatives drink make them think it was socially acceptable to do so? Or did they develop the habit through other reasons.. stress or whatever. Or did a combination of these conditions aswell as a socalled 'inherited personality' cause these addictions?

How many people are addicted to other things which are less of a problem, something which you may not even realise you have an addiction for? (The Internet/Videogames, for example).

But aye, I agree with a zero tolerance policy.


What Mortonjag is saying is that-by definition-you don't become an addict unless you already have an addictive personality. Not all people with addictive personalities become addicts.

Every time this topic comes up, I'm astounded by the ignorance which still abounds. No wonder our national alcohol problem has doubled in just a few years.

I'm all for freedom of opinion and open debate, but not for deliberate distortion of fact.

People don't become addicts unless their personalities render them vulnerable to addiction.


FACT.




QUOTE(NewTon @ May 28 2008, 04:17 AM) [snapback]452998[/snapback]
Sydney is full of addictive personalities ... perhaps 5% of the population

With evolution, they will grow a third arm so that they can:


hold a beer

hold a cigarette

and play a slot/poker machine with their third hand

it has become a major social issue because governments are also addicted ... to poker machine taxes

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http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/states...8949899992.html

I'm sure politicians would find a third arm extremely useful.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 08:09:03
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 27 2008, 06:41 PM) [snapback]452802[/snapback]
Take pound notes and 'sell' them to pubs. Quite a few pubs in England have my old notes displayed, normally for the price of a pint, which in my eyes is a decent transaction.

You have to subtly open your wallet to pay for a drink and allow the landlord to spot your £1 note, invariably they will ask in astonishment 'is that a pound note' to which you reply, yes, here you can have it, and you are normally rewarded with the afore mentioned pint. wink.gif

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QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 27 2008, 06:45 PM) [snapback]452803[/snapback]
Don't try and use them on the London Underground !

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mortonjag 2008-05-28 08:14:19
QUOTE(chris_mceleny @ May 28 2008, 12:19 AM) [snapback]452974[/snapback]
In terms of training theres definately not much better at mortons pro youth compared to good boys club teams in regards of time spent ie 2 hours on tuesdays and thursdays nights etc. Obviously pro youth should have better backing therefore they train on better parks have better training equipment, balls etc. Morton probably attract better players than the boys clubs due to the obvious stigma of getting to play for a professional team but in terms of standard at morton compared to the other pro youth teams and their setups mortons is probably one of the lowest.

So the answer to Dalmatian's innocent question is that a properly run pro-youth set up is the way to go?
mortonjag 2008-05-28 08:18:10 Morton's biggest failing for six years has been lack of leadership on the park.

Several posters have been pointing that out to those who are supposed to know better.

When we sign that man the difference will be glaringly obvious to all except Professor Piehole.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 08:21:14 I know for a fact that the Morton Lottery numbers are drawn by a member of the public each Monday and this is always someone who is not connected to the Club.



....though 'the club' is said to be working on it. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-28 08:28:28
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 27 2008, 09:10 PM) [snapback]452881[/snapback]
i'll shut up then - apart from to suggest that you give it to your wee grandson (maybe minus the amp wink.gif )

Hey-that's an idea---------on second thoughts, maybe it's not. Happiness and Pop stardom rarely co-exist.

Anyhow-just to update, I'm getting my wee Canon out today, and hope to have a picture displayed later.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 08:52:54
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 28 2008, 08:32 AM) [snapback]453012[/snapback]
including your favourite lady politician ?

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Maggie managed very well with two Newt! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-28 08:54:48
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 28 2008, 08:30 AM) [snapback]453011[/snapback]
the vulva appreciates a good airing.
would that be an euphemism ?

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QUOTE(Alibi @ May 28 2008, 08:37 AM) [snapback]453015[/snapback]
You make it sound like a coal fire. Goes better when you supply it with air, red hot and appeciates a good poking.

Gentlemen, your vulgarity does not become you. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-28 09:08:14
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ May 28 2008, 08:48 AM) [snapback]453022[/snapback]
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Inspection of the vomit is a more specialised art-best left to your doctor.

Never ignore vomit which is very dark brown-almost black and looks like it contains coffee grounds.

'Green Chartreuse' vomit usually indicates a high bile content-often experienced after a 'binge' on alcohol, as is the above.

Vomiting copious amounts of fresh blood usually indicates impending death, though small quantities should never be ignored.

Vomiting, preceded by constipation-especially if it contains jobby like material, usually indicates a bowel obstruction.

Vomiting, when accompanied by abdominal pain, should never be ignored, especially if you've just been kicked in the nuts.

Healthy babies don't vomit-they regurgitate-babies who can hit the opposite wall with their pewk, require surgery, or have a childish sense of humour.

I'm waiting to be told this is a piss thread.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 09:15:50
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ May 28 2008, 08:49 AM) [snapback]453026[/snapback]
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 26 2008, 09:44 PM)
So you know that the ESSEN PEE didnae want a war wie the NSDAP?

out of interest, what was the snp's poll rating in the thirties? (honest question: i don't know and neither do you)
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 26 2008, 09:48 PM)
Hindsight is a wonderful thing......At the end of the day, Germany invading Poland had nothing to do with Scotland, so I could understand where they were coming from on that one.

not very well put, but otherwise hard to refute

so you guys (who bit) think that germany invaded poland because of absence of censure from the snp?

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Seriously mate - time to grow a brain. No one is suggesting that the SNP caused the invasion of Poland. You're missing the point completely or else you're looking for another bite. Well here goes.

Colkitto's point that Germany invading Poland had nothing to do with Scotland is, in order ;

1) Completely wrong
2) Seriously ill-educated and
3) Hugely disrespectful to the millions of men (countless thousands of Scots included) who gave their lifes fighting an intolerable evil - to provide the very freedom of speech and liberties all of us now enjoy - which, incidentally, would not be the norm, nor was the norm under the Nazi regime. So failure to speak out and take action against the evil of Fascism was an outrageously cowardly thing to do, whether it was the SNP of the day or the Irish Dail as a whole (before anyone gets started !)

Germany invading Poland had EVERYTHING to do with Scotland - too many people choose to forget just how close we came to being invaded and ruled by Fascist powers. Indeed, most war historians will happily argue that had Hitler chose not to invade Russia or invaded Russia at a later date, then the fall of Britain would have been no more than a timing issue. Fighting a war on three fronts stretched his resources beyond the pale. But with Stalin not arsed about Hitler, in the absence of a Russian invasion, the fall of Britain was a very real prospect.

All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.

I genuinely fear a fourth Reich.

TonInDublin


His imperial majesty Bawheid the first!


Neville Chamberlain would have been proud of Spurtle and Trumpet.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 09:19:44
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 28 2008, 09:04 AM) [snapback]453035[/snapback]
Put doon of the year. laugh.gif laugh.gif

He was actually agreeing with Mr McArthur.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 09:37:31
QUOTE(Alibi @ May 28 2008, 08:35 AM) [snapback]453013[/snapback]
MJ, your obsession with Nicola Sturgeon is emerging again. The person quoted as moaning about this is the SHADOW health minister, i.e. a Labour politician, and you would hardly expect him to offer his congratulations. I'm sure Ms Sturgeon will present the situation in the light most favourable to her (I know, you're going to say that would be total darkness....) and all these things must be taken with a pinch of salt, but you really are getting tedious with your constant references to Bawheid, maybe mildly amusing the first time but a joke loses its impact when repeated ad nauseam.

Even if things aren't totally to your liking, even you have to admit that the general state of Scotland has improved since the LabLib lot were sent packing. It's not perfect but a start has been made on undoing the decades of bad government by the numpty party.

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I wanted to call Bawheid 'Halloween Lantern Heid' which is pictorially more accurate, but trips poorly off the tongue.

QUOTE(dazed @ May 28 2008, 08:48 AM) [snapback]453023[/snapback]
Doesnt Bendy need plastic surgery more urgently than Nicola??


Miracles take longer than 18 weeks.

QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 28 2008, 08:48 AM) [snapback]453024[/snapback]
Aye. shame on you Mentaljag.
Tedious references to personalities in a political party? Like 'Bendy Wendy' and the 'Numpty Party' ? biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(dazed @ May 28 2008, 08:48 AM) [snapback]453025[/snapback]
Well said!


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QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 28 2008, 09:08 AM) [snapback]453037[/snapback]
Sauce for the goose, pot, kettle and all that, surely? When there is little or no difference between the parties on domestic issues perhaps it's inevitable that the debate descends to 'slagging' personalities.



It's not really goose and gander stuff Mr Edwards-Mortonjag despises politicians in general.

On a serious note, I WAS highlighting another use of spin, and outright lying about the Health Service.

So long as that stupid young woman continues to abuse her remit for self and party glorification, I shall pursue her with all guns blazing. Yesterday I met an old chap (Andrew-who's 79) who was in for his chemotherapy. He was really witty and had a very stoical attitude to his prostatic carcinoma, especially as his wife died only last November.

He spent all his life in the drinks industry-latterly in a senior management position.

I asked him what he thinks of the Health Service. He couldn't praise the Beatson highly enough-saying-'You don't appreciate things like this until you need them-I just wish they would spend more money in the right areas'.

Quite simple when your well heeled existence doesn't depend on vote catching.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 09:44:05
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ May 28 2008, 09:34 AM) [snapback]453047[/snapback]
In all fairness, like most of these people will have seen a Scottish bank note before!

First time I saw a northern Ireland one I thought it was fake. And some places in Greenock are really iffy about taking these too, my dad once had to go to the bank and change one as the place he was buying his lunch point-blank refused to take it.

It's all swings and roundabouts.

It was nice of your dad to let you take the picture.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 09:59:16
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 28 2008, 09:39 AM) [snapback]453049[/snapback]
Jag I’m not going to get into any sort of medical debate with you, that would just be silly on my part.

Their medical condition is not my concern and yes a very small percentage of these abusers can be saved and live normal lives, but the vast majority will continue to terrorise people in their own neighbourhoods/homes.

No one chooses to end up a junkie/alky, social issues cause most of that to happen, but am I to feel sympathy for those in society who feel the world owes them something? I am sick to death of my hard earned tax giving junkies free bus travel, furnishings etc, which in my eyes is the truly liberal way out of things and rewarding these criminals, and no matter the harrowing story behind it they are just that, criminals.

How would you feel if the council in their wisdom moved the town’s local alkies next door to you who then become your 4am alarm clock as they woke up and started battling with one another until the off license opened?
How would you feel if they move a known housebreaker and raving junkie below you who subsequently lay dead in the house for 2 months?
How would you feel if a well known drug dealer who has a history of chibbing those who get in his way moved in 2 doors away?
How would you feel if the council gave a house to a 17 year old habitual criminal, who spent his time in secure units, being given a house 2 down from you with over 2k spent on it resulting in basically establishing a teenage gang hut?
How would you feel if you wife was scared to come home from work in the evening because the common close was being used as a drinking/toilet/shagging den by the very worst of our youth?
How would you feel if your area had become a no go zone, where venturing outside at night became a life threatening lottery, a place where the Police very rarely ventured outside the confines of their secure wee pandas.
How would you feel when you finally had enough and decided to hit back only for the Police to appear at your door and threaten you with arrest, despite the fact they regularly witnessed crimes but chose to turn a blind eye.
How would you feel if after all that you are forced (with many of your neighbours) to move out of the home you had built up in an area you once loved because the human gutter scum had taken over with the help of the local council and social work.
I'm afraid any sympathy I may have had towards the unfortunate has long since waned and quite frankly I could not give a toss about any of them anymore.

The crux of this thread is that of an area going down the pan and on that subject I am highly qualified and yes the area being mentioned here is going the identical way as what I have descibed above as anytime you are in the area it is the faces of the towns most recognised scumbags who are hanging around.



The area I live in has (only in my opinion mind) gone right downhill in the last few years because of Council policy on housing immigrants. In their own way, those folk (through no fault of their own in many cases) are perceived as 'scumbags' in this previously well integrated multicultural part of the city.

I agree and sympathise wholeheartedly with your sentiments regarding the unwanted effects of Council policy in this lily livered social services infested nation of ours.

If I contract typhoid through no fault of my own, and proceed to deliberately infect others, that does NOT make me responsible for MY illness. It DOES make me liable to justified punishment.

Not all junkies are 'scumbags', and the number of 'scumbags' in this country grossly exceeds its 'abuser' population.

Time those 'scumbags' in Holyrood took the bull by the horns on addiction-starting with the biggest social scourge by far-alcohol.




mortonjag 2008-05-28 10:05:14
QUOTE(rex manning @ May 28 2008, 09:32 AM) [snapback]453046[/snapback]
Finlayson.

Is he buying the club?
mortonjag 2008-05-28 10:17:03
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ May 28 2008, 09:28 AM) [snapback]453045[/snapback]
Who says we don't have accountability for these funds? So, just because nobody from the club has come onto an unofficial website and answered this questions means that the money has somehow not been used for its intended purpose? What a load of bulls*** by a crowd of mischief makers.

As for Jim McColl being out of his depth dealing with astute businessmen, where did that idea come from. Mr McColl spent his working life in IBM dealing with very astute business men.
And how do you know that Jim McColl hasn't asked pertinent questions at board meetings, were you there?

You lot are amazing...

I take it those are more innocent little questions Measles! You come over as a very sad creature if I may say so, and your ilk-those who are now DELIBERATELY flying in the face of common knowledge- are the ones who threaten progress-not the Jag, his Monkey, and a snowballing number of posters who now call it as it is.

As Barbarossa has asked of you-if you KNOW something which will help to unravel the mystery of the disappearing funds-speak up. If not, you can always revert to wee innocent soul status. dry.gif

QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 28 2008, 09:47 AM) [snapback]453053[/snapback]
Where you there? do you have the answers? If they have details of where this cash went to, make it public. I am only commenting on the fact that funds seem to have been handed over and a member of Mortons board stated where these funds went and it now seems this may or may not have been the case.
It is all a little cloudy, clear the mist I say.
The fans of Morton are well within their rights to ask these questions.
Jim McColl would not rock the boat. Fact.

PRECISELY.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 10:52:53
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 28 2008, 10:15 AM) [snapback]453059[/snapback]
BTW, Our resident spy was appointed by DDF to report back what is being discussed on this site. This forum is more official than unofficial as we find out more of what is going on than the official site tells us.

Aplogies for having the cheek to ask questions. blink.gif

I'm not sure who this 'resident spy' is, but there are certainly more asses on the board than Donkey Dave the tail bearer, with his reassuring excerpts from 'Everything you ever wanted to know about accountancy, but were afraid to admit you didn't learn at University'.

The brown nosed twins Meases and Macca must be thanked for keeping the debate hot.

We DO want the answer! mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-28 10:56:41
QUOTE(rex manning @ May 28 2008, 10:27 AM) [snapback]453065[/snapback]
Cant say i'd be too disappointed to see him and Mr Rae swapping roles. Give me Finlayson on the mike and Rae on the wing any day.

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The mind boggles!
mortonjag 2008-05-28 10:59:00 Davie's a good all rounder-maybe not quite first division standard yet, but his injuries have undoubtedly hampered progress.

He needs a fresh start-for his own good,and the best of luck to him.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 11:01:46
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ May 28 2008, 10:50 AM) [snapback]453078[/snapback]
Probably because he's contracted to St Johnstone until 2.6.08 (according to the Telegraph) and won't sign for us until then.

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Ha-so he's signed one of those pre-contracts that can be torn up at will.



Seems reports of McManus coming to Cappielow are premature! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-28 11:16:54
QUOTE(gmfc_ged @ May 28 2008, 11:02 AM) [snapback]453091[/snapback]
Think Jenkins will have a good year after his pre-season training.

I have high hopes of our midfield being one of the most powerful in the league.

I just wish we had more options up front-Kev's a good squad player but not a winger, and he and McAlister could well sit on the bench in some matches if we had genuine wing players-but there you go.

The other option of course would be efficient overlapping full backs-again a neglected area.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 12:10:31
QUOTE(maccaboy @ May 28 2008, 11:41 AM) [snapback]453102[/snapback]
That'll be one of those pre-contract arrangements that are commonplace throughout football these days.......
.......so why scoff? If the Tele report is accurate, it's a normal piece of transfer business - why the inevitable negativity and cynicism? JEEZ it does get wearing after a while!

You really are a tiring child-if you knew as much as you clearly imagine you do, you'd know that Mortonjag was heavily ABUSED for claiming that pre-contracts are binding (ref Chris Millar), and that that post was totally tongue in cheek.

Now run off and pester somebody with your own limited intellect or brush Mr Rae's shoes or whatever.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 13:07:37
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ May 28 2008, 11:24 AM) [snapback]453096[/snapback]
What common knowledge, three people on an unofficial website making unsubstantiated claims, and this is common knowledge of misappropriation of donated money. Bloody hell you've been reading too many conspiracy novels in your spare time. Stick to the facts it's a much better story that this fiction.
Ah I forgot, if you don't have the facts at your disposal then just make them up to suit your own damaging agenda.

What mystery of disappearing funds? Once again you make something up to suit your agenda . Its only a mystery because you don't know the answer.

I do have the answers as a matter of fact, but lets not let the truth get in the way of a good conspiracy yarn. tongue.gif unsure.gif


I merely alluded to 'the mystery of the disappearing funds'-NOT to misappropriation. The money appears NOT to have been spent on its intended target-that comes from Mr McColl's reported behaviour and comments. He went off to 'investigate' and apparently hasn't come back with an answer. It's pathetic to see you lot close ranks at even the merest hint of criticism-AND IT STINKS TOO.




QUOTE(maccaboy @ May 28 2008, 11:30 AM) [snapback]453099[/snapback]
Another great post - but re the highlighted bit, you've done it now - he doesn't like anyone having information and withholding it apart from HIM....... laugh.gif

Measles either knows f*ck all or 'is on Rae's payroll'. dry.gif

QUOTE(pgmsc @ May 28 2008, 11:56 AM) [snapback]453106[/snapback]
Answer these questions then why did the U17's go a full season without training kit and tracksuits Why did the u13's have to wear hand me downs from this seasons u14's who were the only team supplied with new kit which they did not receive untill half way through the season.

He's just about to do a body swerve.

QUOTE(Spot Ton @ May 28 2008, 12:15 PM) [snapback]453111[/snapback]
We are not talking about kit , we are talking about supposed misappropriation of money.

I'm in agreement with you, I think that's ridiculous but that's down to how the club is being run not about the money being siphoned off for something else.


See what I meant? wink.gif

QUOTE(Bryan @ May 28 2008, 12:15 PM) [snapback]453113[/snapback]
currently if your identity was revealed he wouldnt let you in tongue.gif if you were the trusts representative that would be different. the trust does have the final say, and currently Mr McColl is the best man for the task currently and is not there because of him amiability and does ask the hard questions when needed.....

Your opinion or Shoogly's? Certainly not that of midTONs, and certainly not that of many other trust members.

QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 28 2008, 12:22 PM) [snapback]453116[/snapback]
Precisely what I worry about.
I do not for one moment think someone is stealing this dough, but it seems the accounting at Cappielow falls some way short of what is expected at a professional club.

It is a worrying trend and smacks of the amatuerism which seems prevailant at our club.


Correct Barbarossa-the siege mentality always kicks in every time there's the remotest hint of criticism-who do those people think they are, and more importantly, WHERE DID THE MONEY GO?


QUOTE(cornbeef @ May 28 2008, 12:36 PM) [snapback]453121[/snapback]
You would be naive in the extreme if you thought your ongoing 'campaign' ? had gone unnoticed. Barbarossa often refers to a board spy (reporting everything back to HQ laugh.gif ) I can't understand this - even a casual observer would see that you have major issues with ddfr - so no need for a 'spy' as such. There will undoubtedly be those on the this board who have occasional contact with Dougy/Crawford and you might well get a mention.
Given your contempt for Dougy and co - why the feck would he be happy to have you in the boardroom ?

Having said all that - I don't doubt your right to ask questions about the running of the club. BUT - if you had a genuine interest, in a constructive way, you could have become involved with the trust or written to express your concerns. Maybe you have done, I don't know. It seems you enjoy the role of being a subversive.

It seems strange that you see fit to describe me as a 'subversive' while arguing that my identity's well known Cloth Ears!

I'm not sure what you refer to by 'genuine interest'-my interest in the well being of Morton is paramount, and I DO believe Mr Rae is now holding us back-is there something immoral in that?

Having an interest in a 'Trust' whose sole voice appears to be a total figurehead is an entirely different matter.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 13:08:36
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ May 28 2008, 12:54 PM) [snapback]453129[/snapback]
If the accounting falls short of a professional club how come I get a copy of the club accounts every year which are signed off by the accountant, and not under duress as was the case in the Scott years, and the accounts are approved at the club AGM by the shareholders.

Are you saying that the independent accountant at Henderson's is an amateur and doesn't know his job?

Where did the money go Measles-answer the question?
mortonjag 2008-05-28 13:21:05
QUOTE(maccaboy @ May 28 2008, 12:40 PM) [snapback]453122[/snapback]
'scuse me for not having read your entire canon - but you spout so much nonsense it would be hard to keep up, even if I was interested.

But give me some peace re these comments about "brushing Mr rae's shoes or "licking Mr Rae's erse" - insulting, and nonsensical; the personal abuse you fire at people serves only to weaken your occasional valid arguments. And not being as anti-Rae as you does not mean I'm in thrall to the man.

Try and be a bit more level-headed in future - get yourself a chip for the other shoulder too.

No-I won't excuse you son-either get your facts right or shut up, and forget your whimsical-'he makes good points but spoils them'. It's always the same with you jumped up brats-you think you can hurl all manner of personal abuse at the Jag and then complain when your little fingers get burned. You just claimed that your brown nosed twin's stalwart support of the club in the face of legitimate questioning was 'the best post of the thread'. As I suggested, run off and brush Mr Rae's shoes, or whatever.

QUOTE(ianton @ May 28 2008, 12:50 PM) [snapback]453128[/snapback]
unfortunatley he has all 19,000 of them.put him on ignore just like a lot of us on here.

Lots AND lots of folk who don't like the truth press their little huff buttons- five or six at the last count I'm led to believe. laugh.gif

QUOTE(maccaboy @ May 28 2008, 01:03 PM) [snapback]453131[/snapback]
thanx, might end up doing that. Seems a shame to see him waste what seems a reasonable enough intellect on so much piss and wind and bile against "the club", as he calls it.
When they circumcised MortonJag they threw away the wrong bit.

....but I'm not in thrall to Mr Rae'.... wacko.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-28 13:25:31
QUOTE(maccaboy @ May 28 2008, 01:20 PM) [snapback]453138[/snapback]
Typical - if you don't agree with MJ he rubbishes you either for being totally wrong or for being in Dougie's back pocket. Paranoia and conspiracy theories, as usual.

Get some new tactics, ffs! These ones are played out and extremely boring.

It has nothing to do with 'agreeing or disagreeing with Mortonjag'-or Chrissiboi, or MidTONs, or Barbarossa-it's to do with a legitimate question remaining unanswered while the weasels scrabble and squeak in panic that they KNOW all is well! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-28 13:28:07
QUOTE(Cawston @ May 28 2008, 01:24 PM) [snapback]453140[/snapback]
He said you enjoyed the role, not that you were good at it biggrin.gif
Very true.

I'm of the opinion that Morton are comfortable with Jim McColl being the Trust rep and as such there's next to no scope for change.

Last thing that would be welcomed is someone to go in and actually represent the fans***

Only my opinion though.
*** Could be that JM is doing a great job at this, unfortunately as a loan note holder I'll never find out.



Had to look twice at the obvious deja vu-what is it with Shoogly and those 'JM's?
mortonjag 2008-05-28 13:35:10
QUOTE(maccaboy @ May 28 2008, 01:25 PM) [snapback]453142[/snapback]
The basic truth here is this - IT'S NONE OF OUR BUSINESS where the money went. It's the business of those who donated the money, and of Morton FC, and no-one else. It's not even our business to enquire as to whether the donors know where the money went. It's their business - and no-one else's. The old one is simply stirring it for the sake of stirring it.

I think you have now said everything I needed to hear. When you grow up and look back at this I hope you have the baws to be ashamed of yourself.

Please don't associate ME with arrogant little fools like yourself-it's 'NONE OF OUR BUSINESS'-aye f*ckin' right-it's most CERTAINLY the business of every TRUE Morton fan that their club is run honourably and accountably.

This is Britain in the 21st century sonny, and it's long past time 'the club' woke up to that fact.

Rather than my 'stirring' there are too many on here pathetically failing in an attempt to muzzle free speech. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-28 13:37:50
QUOTE(cornbeef @ May 28 2008, 01:28 PM) [snapback]453145[/snapback]
Don't think subversives require anonimity Osama.

If you were active in the trust you could help to make change 'from within' If you didn't feel that McColl was cutting it and was simply a nodding dog - I'm sure that you could make the necessary moves to have him replaced.

You believe in Democracy , don't you ? and don't even think of mentioning Dougy Mugabe tongue.gif

I have NEVER said I'm not in the trust. I have never said my brother is not in the trust. I have never publicised details of donations made to the club by our family.

As always it's an attempt to discredit Mortonjag and deflect from the question.

Where did the money go?
mortonjag 2008-05-28 13:40:58
QUOTE(pgmsc @ May 28 2008, 01:30 PM) [snapback]453146[/snapback]
The fans donated the money played in the fans game paid for the privilege The fans attended the sportsmens Dinner the fans attented the race night then it is our business in particular those who are Trust members

...and it would also be of great public interest if the question remains unanswered and one of those daft tabloids gets hold of it! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-28 13:50:29
QUOTE(Alibi @ May 28 2008, 12:27 PM) [snapback]453118[/snapback]
Here, that's quite a good one! I do see a slight resemblance to a turnip lantern....

You're right about spending the money in the right places, but I don't really see why you have it in for Nicola Sturgeon - leaving aside the usual spin and trumpeting the slightest achievement, common across all politicians, is it not the case that she is overseeing a gradual improvement in the NHS in Scotland? Although still a lot of unnecessary managers to be got rid of.

I can only call it as I see it, and so far all I see is a fatally flawed belief that she's going to 'meet demand' without involving the private sector, that allied to greater expenditure.


As with Mileson, McInally, Rae, and others, I DON'T have a personal vendetta against folk I don't know personally-nor against any that I do for that matter, although the Monkey really gets on my tits with some of his stuff about our Chairman.

I agree that ALL politicians are losers with the NHS-I'd just welcome some honesty, but honesty doesn't get votes.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 13:54:02
QUOTE(LargsTON @ May 28 2008, 12:45 PM) [snapback]453124[/snapback]
Problem? No one else can help? Maybe you should hire The B Team

*music plays*

If it was a problem I'd deal with it myself! It's just a fact of life.


QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 28 2008, 12:49 PM) [snapback]453126[/snapback]
Bloody hell. It seems that eejits like them will always be around.

Airdrieonians are the salt of the earth Mr Edwards.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 14:11:30
QUOTE(cornbeef @ May 28 2008, 01:44 PM) [snapback]453153[/snapback]
I don't want to muzzle you mad dog© , but you could have something to offer in a more mainstream way.

as somebody said before , you tend to tar us all with the same brush - crawlers/spies/weak minded. Doing yerself an injustice with that stuff.

Don't be daft Cloth Ears-I'd never dream of tarring you with the same brush as some of the pond life which has come and inevitably gone in the never ending quest to defend the indefensible!

Of course I could be useful to the club-for a start I appear to be infinitely more intelligent and better qualified than the current incumbent-I've supported Morton all my life, and my heart's in the right place-the latter has been verified by an independent clinician.

I would happily perform medical examinations, and give advice in Hospitality-proceeds to the club, and the Monkey and Fing do a wonderful wee dancing duet routine-they could dress in Morton strips with Millions logos and make a DVD for sale to the members of the 'Cappie the Cat Club'.

I'd willingly edit 'Shoogly Peg' for Mr Rae, if he'd like that.

There must be dozens of other ways I could get involved in the 'mainstream'.

If Mr Rae contacts me and asks for help, you'll be the first to know-I promise.

Oh-and I'd still like to know what happened to that money.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 14:28:17
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ May 28 2008, 12:22 PM) [snapback]453115[/snapback]
Innocent question? Do you have to demean everything anybody says on this website...you really have a self esteem problem or were you the hospital bully?

I asked a perfectly valid question, one that you can't answer because you are NOT QUALIFIED.... so let somebody with greater knowledge than you say something sensible for a change and stop being an ignoramus.

It wasn't meant to demean you-you made a great effort to point out that your question was valid and not loaded, and I gave you the benefit of the doubt-result-you're back on with more personal abuse.

Furthermore I have never claimed to understand this topic and made that perfectly clear. My last comment was merely based on information from someone what does appear to know.

While I'm on, are you going to spill the beans about how yon money was spent-let Mr McColl know at least-I believe he deserves that.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 14:38:42
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ May 28 2008, 01:46 PM) [snapback]453155[/snapback]
Is there any direct investment in to GMFC as a result of having GC's products emblazoned on both sides of all of our tops since the current regime took over? If so, is it anywhere near as much as an outside firm would contribute? Have the club (ahem) bothered to investigate other sources of sponsorship locally? With firms like T-Mobile, IBM, National Semi-Conductor and indeed RBoS having decent sized operations based in Greenock, have the club made enquiries to these groups with regards to a possible shirt sponsorship deal, even if just for the "second" sponsor on the back?
I really don't believe for a minute that Greenock Morton Football Club is getting the best deal possible from the current set-up. Or indeed, are we getting the best on any front, but that's a sotry for another day...

Another extremely valid question EM. It HAS of course been asked before and 'Millions' defended to the hilt as a 'Household Name'.

One of the advantages of living outside Inverclyde is that you rub shoulders with folk who know nothing about Morton or Golden Casket. I have yet to find one non 'Ton' person who doesn't find the 'Millions' logo 'cheap and nasty', but that's not the point-it's about getting the best income for the club.

For what it's worth, and others have suggested this too, there are many organisations in Inverclyde whom I believe could generate income for the Ton. It may be of course that Mr Rae is writing off substantial debts to Golden Casket in the moneys Greenock Morton receives in sponsorship, and that's entirely fair, but only if we can't do better elsewhere.

mortonjag 2008-05-28 14:42:40
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 28 2008, 02:34 PM) [snapback]453173[/snapback]
SiB, if you want to make logical postings using rational and reasoned arguments go elsewhere mate, this is the wrong place for that kind of stuff. tongue.gif

Final confirmation of what I've always believed-all Hercules' posts are tongue in cheek.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 14:48:45
QUOTE(cornbeef @ May 28 2008, 02:16 PM) [snapback]453169[/snapback]
I thought MJ was having a dig at the dead sea scrolls as he calls the O.S. It is indeed more of an 'archive' than a news facility. No surprise that GMFC hasn't updated with McManus. I mean there's a quote from the manager in the Tele so it's surely done and dusted ? also interesting how the site has treated the different signings - big Partypants got a mention in the 'chairmans' notes but not the other signings.( any significance ?)
It'll be a real shocker if we haven't secured McManus though.

It's the apparently random aspect that's puzzling-quite often in the past we've had forewarnings of impending 'fantastic' signings-they updated the Finlayson information commendably, yet despite all the debate and subsequent Tilly splurge there's just ZILCH.

I would imagine that if the responsibility was delegated solely to one person the matter would be sorted.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 15:08:42
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ May 28 2008, 03:06 PM) [snapback]453182[/snapback]
Truly the definition of farting into thunder.

TonInDublin

Hmm-a close contender though I'd still cite attendance at a Morton rally.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 15:11:01
QUOTE(Sammario @ May 28 2008, 02:53 PM) [snapback]453179[/snapback]
Morton did discuss with T-Mobile about increasing their their level of sponsorship but Morton wanted too much money.

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QUOTE(EanieMeany @ May 28 2008, 03:05 PM) [snapback]453181[/snapback]
Probably wanted all future T-Mobile handsets to come with a changeable "Millions" cover rolleyes.gif

laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-28 15:30:24
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 28 2008, 03:18 PM) [snapback]453188[/snapback]
If money is handed over with the expressed intention of supplying new kits then obviously
the failure to do so is a betrayal of trust and the good intentions of those who donated the money .
So to me the club should be informing those concerned that the money was used for a different purpose at the very least .
I am probably being niave but I feel if the club have recieved money for a specific use and they feel there is no need to use the money in this way then surely they are duty bound to inform those or give them the oppurtunity to have their money back .

I seem to remember something about folk wanting their money back before-I think Annan FC was involved in some way.

I may be mistaken, but I believe 'the club' was a wee bit reluctant to return money on that occasion-not Annan FC-'the club'.

I apologise in advance if I've got this all mixed up.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 15:35:02
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 28 2008, 03:30 PM) [snapback]453192[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif

Now .. now ... you must behave .
You are only a medical doctor , doctoring figures requires a different type of skill entirely . wink.gif

Fing is good with the numbers!
mortonjag 2008-05-28 15:37:49
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 28 2008, 03:09 PM) [snapback]453185[/snapback]
Aye, quite right, best not to upset the bead-rattlers. smile.gif

fashion conscious snakes.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 16:05:00 Here's what others said---and I had to delete seven as the multiple quote limit was reached.


QUOTE(LargsTON @ May 21 2008, 05:01 PM) [snapback]450105[/snapback]
Any need for that. It's a very valid point and one I'd like answered.



QUOTE(midTONs @ May 21 2008, 06:07 PM) [snapback]450133[/snapback]
You know it's a question I tried to get answered before but didn't get anywhere with, I will not go over old ground but it would be nice for the club to contact the person/organisation or club who made any donation for the youth set up or any other fund within the club for that matter and tell them exactly how their donation was made use of.





QUOTE(EanieMeany @ May 21 2008, 07:09 PM) [snapback]450178[/snapback]
Dougie could turn GC into the most profitable organisation in the world for all I care, doesn't mean he has the slightest clue about running a football club.

Mortonjag makes a fair point - if the fans are coughing up the cash for something that should be the clubs responsibility, we deserve to be told where that money is going.

And why would anyone want to go to one of Dougie's wee soirees anyway? We all know he's never going to give you a straight answer unless it's making him look good, or he gets a chance to wheeze "bring a friend" for a while.






QUOTE(Sanityclause @ May 21 2008, 08:56 PM) [snapback]450221[/snapback]
Hmmmm - your response seems slightly aggressive on this one, why would that be?

I don't read anything more from MortonJags post other than a valid question
- one maybe that cannot be answered through this thread or forum.

I also agree with other posters on this one - I wasn't at the PG town hall for question night - does that make me any less a fan? or indeed any less inquisitive about my club?








QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 24 2008, 11:57 AM) [snapback]451595[/snapback]
Can't disagree with that, Irons and co seem a more astute team. But we have been punching below our weight for well over a decade, reality for me would be competing at the top of the 1st division EVERY season, with the distinct possibility of joining the 'big' boys.

Why is it many fans seem to think we are not of that level, we are a potentially bigger club (and should be at that level) than the likes of ICT, Falkirk and definitely Hamilton. Indeed in my opinion we should be at the level of the likes of Motherwell.

We have to realise our potential or forever be looking in from the outside, regarded as a very well supported diddy club. There is only one club in our division who should regularly be bigger than us and that is Dundee.
I still challenge the owners of Morton to come out publicly and state what their long term plans are for Morton, have we found what they regard as our level, or are they willing to take this club forward?

Morton are run in a very amateur fashion compared to clubs with obvious ambition, it is almost looked upon as a toy or badge for our esteemed chairman.
It has a siege mentality at times and we as the fans are not allowed to ask pertinent questions regarding the future because we don't own it, but without us there would be no Morto
n.

Maybe, just maybe, someday someone who understands where Morton should be will take this club forward.
I can only hope.





QUOTE(Ton @ May 27 2008, 04:23 PM) [snapback]452733[/snapback]
All i can say is that at Youth meeting Jim Mc Coll was astounded that the u17's had not recieved kit as he had just handed over £2000 after xmass and that he would need to look into it ? not down to coaches not informing anyone as I know this was not the case as they had been informed by no less than 3 coaches and parents.




QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 28 2008, 08:57 AM) [snapback]453033[/snapback]
This thread has now surpassed the tit-for-tat mud slinging, it is now very concerning that we don't seem to have simple accountability for these funds mentioned.

Morton fans have the right to demand that the club produce a record of where and how this money was spent. The issue of trust is now at the forefront.

As for Jim McColl, he is a thouroughly decent man who is Morton to the core but is well out of his depth in dealing with astute businessmen, i'm afraid the fans representative on the board has to ask pertinent and sometimes uncomfortable questions which I am not convinced Jim ever would.



QUOTE(pgmsc @ May 28 2008, 11:56 AM) [snapback]453106[/snapback]
Answer these questions then why did the U17's go a full season without training kit and tracksuits Why did the u13's have to wear hand me downs from this seasons u14's who were the only team supplied with new kit which they did not receive untill half way through the season.



QUOTE(Cawston @ May 28 2008, 01:24 PM) [snapback]453140[/snapback]
He said you enjoyed the role, not that you were good at it biggrin.gif
Very true.

I'm of the opinion that Morton are comfortable with Jim McColl being the Trust rep and as such there's next to no scope for change.

Last thing that would be welcomed is someone to go in and actually represent the fans***

Only my opinion though.
*** Could be that JM is doing a great job at this, unfortunately as a loan note holder I'll never find out.



QUOTE(pgmsc @ May 28 2008, 01:30 PM) [snapback]453146[/snapback]
The fans donated the money played in the fans game paid for the privilege The fans attended the sportsmens Dinner the fans attented the race night then it is our business in particular those who are Trust members



There is surely more than a mandate here from many of our respected posters. A valid question has been asked.

It's perfectly possible that there is a simple and completely innocent answer, but the longer that answer takes to come from those who CLAIM to know, and the longer those who DO KNOW protest that all is well, the more it appears that it is quite the opposite.


When the life blood of Greenock Morton-its true fans-has so obviously being treated with aloofness and disdain for so long, their loyalty is nothing short of amazing. Two years back Mr Rae enjoyed almost total support, and criticism of any kind was met with an often vicious backlash.

Times have changed, and reality has now dawned for the majority. Mr Rae's heart is undoubtedly 'in the right place' and I will always be grateful that he saved our club from extinction, but if he intends to stick with the 'status quo' he really has to look very carefully at public relations and accountability.

Patience is wearing thin and goodwill already appears largely to have evaporated. This unanswered question is the tip of an iceberg of what I regard as bizarre goings on at Cappielow.

It's perfectly plain that the Trust is simply taken 'for granted' as an extra source of income, and majority opinion suggests that Mr McColl is 'a bulldog with no teeth'.

Writing to 'the club' is largely a waste of time-just as at the fans' rally, unwanted questions are deflected or simply ignored.

The unofficial forum seems to be the only effective mouthpiece for the fans-we're told that Mr Rae employs his 'resident spy' specifically charged with reporting back, but it's never been more truly said that 'A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest'.

I'm afraid it looks like it's just going to get worse before it gets better.

mortonjag 2008-05-28 16:48:34
QUOTE(maccaboy @ May 28 2008, 04:12 PM) [snapback]453205[/snapback]
If you:-

buy a lottery ticket
buy a raffle ticket
sponsor someone in a marathon
put money in ANY charity collection tin

you do so of your own free will. You have a right to expect your money will be used in roughly the manner that the organisation has led you to believe, and they have a responsibility to ensure that that is done - but you DON'T have any right to expect that that organisation answers the questions of every single query that comes their way about it. You wouldn't ask such questions of Cancer Research or the RNLI or ChildLine unless you had serious grounds for suspecting that something was amiss, in which case you'd go to their auditors or to the police. You WOULDN'T start asking unanswerable questions on a football fans' forum - we don't have the answers to give; nor do we have the authority to get them.

The only people with any right to expect an answer from Morton about where that money went are the organisers of whatever raffle/dance/other function raised the cash. Whether they've asked the questions or not I don't know, and I don't much care - it's their business and no-one else's.

I'm bored crapless by this now - won't be back on this thread, it'll go on and on with the daft old wombat just rumbling things up every now again with a strategically-placed "Where'd The Money Go......." ....... the game ain't worth the candle as this thread won't ever get the answer.

Adios!! biggrin.gif

unsure.gif


Did you think it was a game? ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-28 17:04:45
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 28 2008, 03:45 PM) [snapback]453197[/snapback]
Wow, that's way too much.

Apart from Tom McB and Sick Mick I've been told some of them are actually OK. tongue.gif

laugh.gif

It's just word association, and both of those gentlemen are fine upstanding examples of......... sad.gif huh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-28 17:06:53
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ May 27 2008, 08:01 PM) [snapback]452838[/snapback]
http://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/euro2008/

At least this keeps an interest in the European games - the vain hope that you guess the correct score and who knows, maybe even win £100

My guesses are now in under Sanityclause - should we start a board competition?

Mortonjag supply a valid e-mail address to the 'Tilly'!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-28 17:10:40
QUOTE(.:BrIDo:. @ May 28 2008, 12:40 AM) [snapback]452984[/snapback]
Are you planning to keep the originals?

The reason I ask is because, despite all the positives of the digital age (piracy!!), I've burned alot of photos to disc over the past 5,6,7 years, alot of which don't work anymore. Apparently it's to do with cheap discs, so if you're wanting something to keep use high quality Sony discs (which you'll need to back up every 10 years anyway). Apparently UV light degrades the integrity of the disc aswell.

Anyway, about you're original question, I can't think of a program that would do all that, but perhaps an alternative would be to download some torrent software and search for the albums that way? Legally you're not breaking any laws if you've already bought the album and it would save you a tonne of time.

Sorry to digress. I want to know the simplest software I can free download for ripping AND burning DVDs.

I've used Nero, DVD shrink, and Roxio, but I'm afraid I'm pretty useless when it comes to this kind of thing-something completely idiot proof please!
mortonjag 2008-05-28 17:23:31
QUOTE(Sammario @ May 28 2008, 05:14 PM) [snapback]453221[/snapback]
I think Nero is the best out ther. I have NTI CD/DVD Maker as well but much prefer Nero.

Cheers-I'll give it another go.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 17:27:55
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ May 28 2008, 03:48 PM) [snapback]453199[/snapback]
According to the Herald he was at Dundee yesterday but nothing was signed as he has other options and wants to take a few days to reach a decision. Could this mean we offered more money than Dundee?

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif wacko.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-28 17:49:46
QUOTE(big B @ May 28 2008, 03:40 PM) [snapback]453195[/snapback]
The draw for the 1st round of the Challenge Cup will be made tomorrow Thoughts.

It'll make things a bit more real, having an actual fixture to look forward to.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 17:51:54
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ May 28 2008, 05:33 PM) [snapback]453228[/snapback]
Doesn't need to be completely valid!

what-something like fing@nailgun.co.uk
mortonjag 2008-05-28 17:53:30
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 28 2008, 05:43 PM) [snapback]453230[/snapback]
We had Brown and Darling in Scotland today meeting the heads of the oil companies asking them to up production.
Westminster is going to try and drain the oil fields dry quicker than ever before, whilst Scotland sits back and allows their country to go through economic uncertainty, poor living standards, crap schools and hospitals........( I could go on)
We are now reaching an incredible $135 a barrrel. You can see this hitting $200 in the not too distant future. And all the money flows to London, an utter disgrace !

Whilst the other countries around the world go to war to protect their oil, we sit back and let them take it, with not a word said ! mad.gif

Get it sorted Bawheid.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 18:29:04
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 28 2008, 05:48 PM) [snapback]453234[/snapback]
This is despite money being donated in good faith that things are run as a professional set up .
Not only do we have to ensure that the new management team improve the training and general running of the set up .

The board will then have to ensure we eventually meet the SFA criteria ( for anyone who has citicised Gretna for not having facilities up to standard it would be double standards if we were not to criticise our own club for failing to do so after the allowed timescale by the SFA )

Question , did we get a grant from the SFA for our development initiative ? If so what was that money spent on ?

Are you saying we did, or just asking-it shouldn't be hard to check.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 18:31:41
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ May 28 2008, 05:31 PM) [snapback]453227[/snapback]
If I remember rightly Nero had two modes. One being called 'simple' or 'easy' mode or something which was extremely straight forward.



QUOTE(Jackie @ May 28 2008, 05:46 PM) [snapback]453232[/snapback]
MJ you could just use Windows Media Player, although I prefer Nero too.

Cheers-I'm just incredibly useless with those programmes-it's strange when I'm so bloody incredible at almost everything else! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-28 18:33:32
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ May 28 2008, 06:16 PM) [snapback]453242[/snapback]
No offence but these petition's get nowhere, still signed it though as i like a wee petition now and again rolleyes.gif

Hmm... mortonjag will keep that in mind!
mortonjag 2008-05-28 18:52:57
QUOTE(Deego @ May 28 2008, 06:30 PM) [snapback]453248[/snapback]
unsure.gif

We are in the 1st Division? unsure.gif

We're in a different first division! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-28 18:55:24
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ May 28 2008, 06:35 PM) [snapback]453252[/snapback]
Still waiting on you to start one MJ, although ive got a fair guess as to what it might be rolleyes.gif




Free Fudgy Wudgys for three legged stools? mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-28 19:10:10
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 28 2008, 07:04 PM) [snapback]453263[/snapback]
I know Davie Irons spoke briefly about there being grants available to clubs who adhere to the criteria . I believe we did recieve the basic grant from the SFA from things that were said when Joe McLaughlin was there .

If we took the money while knowing we did not have the necessary level of training facilities etc then surely this is another example of failure in taking a long term outlook to the whole business of youth development .

I assume certain criteria must be fulfilled before the SFA disburses money. I'm sure that the SFA would not knowingly dish money out if those criteria had not been fulfilled.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 19:14:21
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 28 2008, 06:57 PM) [snapback]453259[/snapback]
Your obsession with jobbies is getting beyend a joke.




HA-I'm talking about milking stools Hercules-milking coos can be hard work especially if the milkmaid milk person has a large bum-that is why I say.......

Free Fudgy Wudgys for three legged stools.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 19:19:16
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 28 2008, 06:57 PM) [snapback]453260[/snapback]
Easy, Scotland could be a very rich country indeed. The price of oil is rising very sharply, that means more revenue to the country that is producing the oil.
Westminster is raking in £billions of Scottish oil because we are in this cursed union. These £billions worth of oil revenue could be going straight into the Scottish economy.

laugh.gif

Mibbes aye Spurtle-anyway I've asked you three times why you're not in the Bawheid club, and three times you've not answered. My partner suggests it's because of your job-are you a big POLIS, cos if so I do apologise for calling you names. He's usually right about things like that BTW!

Also if you are I'd love a pm with a picture of your truncheon.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 19:25:13
QUOTE(Deego @ May 28 2008, 07:16 PM) [snapback]453269[/snapback]
I didn't know what your question was, fanny toes. No I didn't.

Fanny toes? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-28 19:28:21
QUOTE(shagster @ May 28 2008, 07:25 PM) [snapback]453275[/snapback]
More pointless off topic crap.

Would you like me to sign the petition humpy-I will if you promise to sign mine when it comes out-you won't have to really believe it'll do any good.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 19:38:31
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 28 2008, 07:33 PM) [snapback]453279[/snapback]
You never said you were a Cliff fan laugh.gif

YOU never said you were a big POLIS either! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-28 19:43:20
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 28 2008, 07:39 PM) [snapback]453284[/snapback]
Mon the trees, f*** the HGV's.

Using a thick condom I hope

HGV +ve's no fun
mortonjag 2008-05-28 19:49:53
QUOTE(Boozehound @ May 28 2008, 07:46 PM) [snapback]453291[/snapback]
With reference to the first post and the suggestion other countries go to war for "their" oil, are we supposed to go to war with England?

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED
mortonjag 2008-05-28 19:51:46
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 28 2008, 07:48 PM) [snapback]453293[/snapback]
I take it you don't like to put it up the exhaust then ? tongue.gif

Oh I'd like to think of myself as a bit AC/DC sparks-an alternating c*nt if you will.
mortonjag 2008-05-28 19:54:17
QUOTE(midTONs @ May 28 2008, 07:51 PM) [snapback]453296[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDThat's what is accurately described as a *potential ethnic slur removed*!
mortonjag 2008-05-28 19:55:57
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 28 2008, 07:53 PM) [snapback]453297[/snapback]
If you read all of my posts, I said all we have to do is put an X in the right box. But that would have spoiled you're wee unfunny joke ohmy.gif

Very well officer!
mortonjag 2008-05-28 19:58:45
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 28 2008, 07:46 PM) [snapback]453292[/snapback]
If I bought a ticket for the national lottery and was then excluded from knowing the 7 numbers that came out I would be positively livid.

If I bought a raffle ticket I'd damned certainly want to know who won.
mortonjag 2008-05-29 07:01:28
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 28 2008, 08:54 PM) [snapback]453341[/snapback]
biggrin.gif i aim to please

Bryan-thanks-that goes some way towards answering the question, though the 'invoices at Cappielow' and 'if I had known' allied to comments about NOT being able to do it while claiming there was still money in the bank seems to confirm allegations of amateurism at the very least. Giving folk like Gillian and Jim the benefit of the doubt merely confirms the on going 'divide and rule' policy of the Master.

Furthermore you claimed no time ago that 'Jim is doing an excellent job'.
mortonjag 2008-05-29 07:03:44
QUOTE(Boozehound @ May 28 2008, 10:00 PM) [snapback]453374[/snapback]
That's not a good quality in a footballer, true, but it's a f***ing great quality in a woman.

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mortonjag 2008-05-29 07:17:07
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ May 28 2008, 11:55 PM) [snapback]453407[/snapback]
These really should be out pretty much right after the last game, especially when there is a feel good factor like this season's great escape!

Tonsilitis in shock criticism of Steptoe and Son-does he sense business? laugh.gif



On P&B it would appear that we and Thsitle are about the only clubs not having issued renewal notices apart from Airdrie who can't until they know the Gretna situation.


C'mon Thistle help us to win someting even if it's just the Bungle Handicap


QUOTE(JonaTon @ May 28 2008, 11:57 PM) [snapback]453408[/snapback]
Not the first time the club has failed to capitalise on a feel good factor.


Has he EVER?


QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ May 29 2008, 01:12 AM) [snapback]453419[/snapback]
I confidently predict they will be in the post within the week... wink.gif rolleyes.gif


Can you also confidently predict that they will be printed in Scotland in a waterproof bothy, that the e-mails of all applicants won't be publicised, that they will be worth the money this time after last years 'joke', and most importantly that Mortonjag's private information will not be leaked from the Club data this time around.

Can you also confidently predict a cost of living indexed pay rise for Tail Bearers next fiscal year-that's the sort of thing Bawheid admires.


QUOTE(port-ton @ May 29 2008, 01:44 AM) [snapback]453422[/snapback]
never had a season ticket but, does it really matter when you get them? they dont come into use until the start of the season anyway.


Their only use is in knowing you can turn up at 2.55 and still get your seat. Given the diminishing crowds that was never a problem last season. I certainly WON'T be renewing-that's one way of telling Mr Rae his organisation stinks.


QUOTE(TaunTon @ May 29 2008, 06:57 AM) [snapback]453425[/snapback]
Might not matter to you but it should to the club. Getting advanced income is great for any business as you can plan your finances better or even use the money for signings. Most clubs realise this and get their renewals out as soon after the season closes as possible.


Mr Rae is an astute and experienced businessman! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-29 07:22:42
QUOTE(MasterTon @ May 28 2008, 09:19 PM) [snapback]453363[/snapback]
I saw a mouse!
Where?
There on the stair!
Where on the stair?
Right there!
A little mouse with clogs on
Well I declare!
Going clip-clippety-clop on the stair
Oh yeah.
Ian


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QUOTE(port-ton @ May 29 2008, 12:14 AM) [snapback]453412[/snapback]
i met my mate the other day
when he came to my neck of the woods
all of a sudden he proclaimed he was gay
and we proceeded to touch each others manhoods

im not going to say i didnt enjoy it
but it just felt a little weird
its a funny feeling you know when against a wall
having a man go down on you with a beard

im happy to say that after just a day
we were happily in love
and even better news is what im about to say
my arse fits his hand like a glove.




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mortonjag 2008-05-29 07:26:04 MY ARSE FITS HIS HAND LIKE A GLOVE[center][/center]



Port ton.
mortonjag 2008-05-29 07:29:49
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ May 28 2008, 08:51 PM) [snapback]453337[/snapback]
Fingers are for women. A real man needs a fist.

Back to the point. If you're young or an idiot or both and think the earth revolves around you then you probably will have problems with Scottish money down south but then you probably regularly have other men eyeing up your bird or calling your pint a ****.

Can't put an old head on young shoulders!
mortonjag 2008-05-29 07:31:57 Again thanks to all. I think Mr Bam may have the real answer to the problem though.
mortonjag 2008-05-29 07:37:05
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 28 2008, 09:45 PM) [snapback]453370[/snapback]
sorry chaps, i didn't make myself clear:

my first point was that i imagined that the snp's support in the thirties was less than that of today, although i didn't have the figures (implication: the snp was an insignificant entity in european terms)

my second point was that i doubted whether the events of 1939 would have turned out any differently whatever the snp position was at the time. the opprobrium of the snp would not have halted the invasion of poland

also i see now why i found colkitto's post puzzling - i completely misinterpreted it unsure.gif (i thought he was saying that the snp's position wouldn't have affected the outcome), so i didn't mean to imply that i agreed it was nothing to do with scotland

apologies for the confusion, especially if you thought i was suggesting the snp were responsible for the invasion of poland ohmy.gif

Whit was his name Trumpet?
mortonjag 2008-05-29 07:40:30
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 28 2008, 08:23 PM) [snapback]453311[/snapback]
Never mind break ins in
the west end, a police van just pulled up right outside my house, 12 police have jumped out and are all standing at the traffic lights at the top of Patrick St?? unsure.gif


Was Constable Claymore there?
QUOTE(princessTON @ May 28 2008, 08:31 PM) [snapback]453317[/snapback]
No helicopter yet, will keep you posted. They are still all standing, my dad's arse is making buttons. I think he is going to take our imaginery dog out a walk. rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2008-05-29 07:42:34
QUOTE(port-ton @ May 28 2008, 11:58 PM) [snapback]453409[/snapback]
Reported for racism.

The only difference between Blu Tack and gently microwaved keech is the colour.
mortonjag 2008-05-29 08:50:41
QUOTE(Mr.Kennedy @ May 28 2008, 03:20 PM) [snapback]453189[/snapback]
I may be interested in the keyboard...how much you looking to sell that for?

Yamaha PSR 170

Cost about £110 new some five years ago and has been played about a dozen times. As I said, I'm not looking to rip off fellow posters, but I'm not going to let it go for complete buttons either!

Update on the 'foties' -they have been tooken but I can't work out how to put them on this thread-HELP please!
mortonjag 2008-05-29 09:06:34
QUOTE(David Edwards @ May 29 2008, 08:34 AM) [snapback]453440[/snapback]
A few people here seem to be blaming Local Authories or Housing Associations for the 'run down' of public housing. They are wrong - the responsibility lies with national government.
Local Authorities and Registered Social Landlords (i.e Housing Associations) are legally obliged to prioritise housing provision for those deemed to be most in need. For example, if a family is evicted from one house for anti-social behaviour, they will go to the top of the waiting list for another if they present themselves as homeless. It should also be noted that Housing Associations have to borrow money to part finance housing development (construction of new housing or refurbishment of existing). The loans have to be repaid through rental income - the higher the loan, the higher the rent. High rents are only a consideration for the 'economically active' though, the 'economically inactive' will have their rents paid for them by housing benefit.
No surprises then that public housing has become the dumping ground for every social problem that blights society. National government continues to turn a blind eye to these problems I'm afraid. SNP legislation (ironically called 'Building on Firm Foundations') proposes to cut grants to Housing Associations even further, meaning that private loans will increase and rents will rise again accordingly.
Public housing needs to be radically overhauled both in terms of its allocation and finance. Allocation systems should be reviewed to ensure that good tenants are rewarded and bad tenants made to face up their responsibilities. Similarly, housing finance and benefit systems should be geared towards affordability for those who work for a living. Present systems just perpetuate poverty and social degeneration - radical changes are long overdue.



Like it or lump it, those unfortunate dregs of society-I'm CERTAIN they never wanted to end up like that -either have to be exterminated or housed somewhere. Maybe the best idea would be a new Botany Bay near Iraq or some other faraway place that doesn't matter-that would create lots of spaces here for good quality people from Romania and so on.

I'd imagine they could equally well all be incarcerated for life into a huge new prison the size of twenty five Bar L's, but that would cost munny.

Anyway it seems that as long as they are decanted into decent areas those will become indecent overnight. The only solution for the decent folk is to move out leaving wholly indecent ghettos.

I have huge sympathy with the plight of Barbarossa. Sadly there IS no short term solution, nor will there be an answer unless governments take the drugs issue by the scruff of the neck.


mortonjag 2008-05-29 09:31:54
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ May 29 2008, 09:24 AM) [snapback]453453[/snapback]
God, I thought for a minute you were going to say something positive. But as usual that dark cloud once more descended and you lapsed into the old routine. sad.gif

Thanks for that Measles-I shall bear you in mind on the day of judgement.
mortonjag 2008-05-29 09:41:48
QUOTE(midTONs @ May 29 2008, 09:28 AM) [snapback]453458[/snapback]
eh, I think your wrong there tbh, I don't think it's just down to other ('trust') board members but down to all trust members whether or not they are on the board or loan note holders.

It's down to apathy and impotence.

Good folk in the trust are ironically too 'trusting'-either that or they don't bother their arses trying to fix things that are not right.

I stand by my previous view that the 'Trust', the supporters clubs, and the fans in general have been a 'soft touch' for 'the club'-why bother being accountable if nobody's asking questions-even IF you're doing everything by the book.

In that respect, I take my hat off to the Old Shooglemeister-there can't be many septuagenarians who could have outdone Mrs T in her prime.

Now that pertinent questions ARE being asked of the regime, he must be working on his own version of the Argentinian War! wink.gif

mortonjag 2008-05-29 10:06:11
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 29 2008, 09:39 AM) [snapback]453461[/snapback]
I think the point here is there are jobs a plenty at the moment, so much so we have to import foreign workers to fill the voids.

I would reckon at a guess that at least 70% of those registered on incapacity benefit are in fact fit to work.
It is a system which is continually abused and those in most need of help are invariably the ones who get the least from the authorities.

It has always made me scratch my head in wonder that a registered alocoholic for instance receives approx £20 per week more than the guy looking for a job, why exactly does an alcoholic need more money than your average joe?
Does he eat more? does he have extra outgoings? there is no way he/she would spend that extra money on drink is there.

All this does, and also in the case of junkies, is encourage them to bleed the system dry. We are in fact feeding their habits.

We cannot return to the bad old days of workhouses, but this situation financially and economically cannot continue. The amount of fit young adults idle in this country is staggering, if they want to lounge on the brew or the sick make them earn it somehow.



Haud on a minute-what's a 'registered alcoholic'-don't spoil your good points with daft spin.


'Ahm in tae register officially as an alky'-

'I'm sorry Sir but you're not stinking of stale alcohol and cigarette smoke and those, I believe, are 'Gucci' trainers. May I see your medical certificate?

'Haw you-aye you c*nt-ther nae certificate-get us registered or yer motor's tanned'.

'Very well Sir'.................and will there be anything else Sir.

Aye, geezan emergency loan -thae trainers are six months old.

mortonjag 2008-05-29 10:07:01
QUOTE(tigerjock @ May 29 2008, 09:57 AM) [snapback]453466[/snapback]
Was brought up at the poor end of brisbane st......on my last visit it was noticable that the area was infested with work shy scrounging types who are the cash generators of the unscrupulous landlords......was a great area to grow up in but i wouldn't live there now with my youngsters.....like most of society it has changed for the worse......still not worse than inverkip road....eh barbie.....young TJ sends his regards from the cloud he is currently still occupying...........up the tigers

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mortonjag 2008-05-29 10:09:57
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ May 29 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]453465[/snapback]
Crikey, you are starting to sound like Ms Alexander. wink.gif I agree with you, by the way, on that point.

Sir Alastair is a fellow Morton supporter. That was QUITE uncalled for.
mortonjag 2008-05-29 10:13:44
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ May 29 2008, 09:26 AM) [snapback]453457[/snapback]
Healthy babies don't vomit-they regurgitate-babies who can hit the opposite wall with their pewk, require surgery, or have a childish sense of humour.

Yourself on the excellent 'jobby' thread. laugh.gif

smile.gif

The jobby thread seems a bit costive-I'll have a wee keek!
mortonjag 2008-05-29 10:25:09 Jobbies with little white wriggly threads on them indicate a rectum inhabited by wireworms. Those clever little creatures pop out at night to lay their eggs on the crimson aureole.

The resultant intense itching, scratching, and eating without washing the paws (to say nothing of sooking the fingers) ensures propagation of the species.

Who said worms were low life? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-29 11:04:06
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ May 29 2008, 10:19 AM) [snapback]453473[/snapback]
Apparently you should only have to wipe your bottom 3 times before you're completely clean. Well what happens if your on the 6th wipe? Is there something wrong or is it just a hangover?

What is your technique also, do you look to see how clean it is by looking down or do you bring the bog roll full of jobby right out of the pan?

That is quite inaccurate and a carry over from the days of austerity immediately after the 'last war'.

When we were kids we were only allowed two pieces of that horrible 'Medicated with san izal germicide' paper per dump. Guaranteed your underpants were caked in dried keech when they went in the weekly wash. We just accepted that as normal.

We loved Uncle Jimmy's up in Belville Street-he boasted the first coloured bumph in Inverclyde-Evening Times, Sporting Evening Times, and Sporting Evening Citizen, cut neatly into squares and hung on a piece of string in his unlit WC, where the 'bottom biters' lived.

You could use as much as you wanted, and if you were very good, and looked 'feart', he'd let you play with his torch too.

Now in my advancing years I can use as much of that luxuriant soft perfumed tissue as I want.

Whatever happened to the Bidet though-I had a Bidet in a couple of houses-they have hundreds of uses apart from hosing down ones perineum ('undercarriage', for the uneducated).

Anyway------I sit astride the pan-I'm doing it as I type just to get this right-opening my legs almost as far as I can, and leaning over slightly to the left while pushing upwards from my right foot, with TWO pieces folded into one in my right hand, I reach under my right cheek-forward until I almost touch my scrotum ('bawbag' for the uneducated) and slowly and firmly perform a backward wiping action with slight upward pressure. I then carefully reverse the arm movement and after very close scrutiny of the jobby streak, I discard the paper into the beckoning pan. That process is repeated as often as necessary to achieve complete cleanliness.

I have found that while actually performing the act of defaecation ('sh*tting', for the uneducated) I can predict with uncanny accuracy how much paper will be required. I confess to being quite obsessional about this.

I have to say that a thoroughly good crap is one of life's most rewarding and valued pleasures. I dread the thought of my rectum and anus ('arsehole' for the uneducated) ever packing in. sad.gif

mortonjag 2008-05-29 11:13:15
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ May 29 2008, 10:27 AM) [snapback]453477[/snapback]
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It's quite like farting, they all do it, except most men will let rip in ferocious fashion where-as woman squeeze the cheeks until the faces goes red.

Not many of them like speaking about it. Occasionaly over breakfast I've tried to have a decent conversation about said topic which doesnt go down to well. Getting skelped across the face with a cocopop wouldn't be a good start to the day.

This is most definately not a topic for woman.

Passing flatus ('farting' for the uneducated), is a perfectly natural physiological function-indeed the little Valves of Houston-situated deep within the rectum ('jobby house', for the uneducated) are said to separate flatus from faeces (jobbies), so God must have meant even women to fart.


My ex wife claimed she never farted-it was possibly true as I rarely got close enough to check.

My new partner seems more enlightened-her face beams with pleasure when she experiences the onset, and she lets it rip like a true fella.

My new partner's a breath of fresh air compared to the last one.
mortonjag 2008-05-29 11:29:31
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ May 29 2008, 11:10 AM) [snapback]453490[/snapback]
Just aswell 'cos I wipe at least 6 times. Was starting to get worrying.

Where is this 'Uncle Jimmys' you speak of? I live in Barnhill Street which should be nearby to this place you speak of.

Uncle Jimmy lived in a top floor tenement in Belville Street-long since demolished and replaced by those horrible high flats with the daft bunnets.

Jimmy (he was actually my Dad's uncle) was a real character, and the epitome of kindness. He was a coal merchant, and despite being a very wee man thought nothing of lugging hundredweight bags of coal to the top of four storey closes all day long.

He used to count out the money on the kitchen table-as a wee boy I thought he was minted, though in reality, he only scraped a living.

He spoke the Greenock version of 'Broad Scots'-I loved when he talked about the 'dug's bowel' for example, and he used to let me pee in the scullery sink-there was an outstanding view of the harbour and estuary from that window- when my Granny Barbour wasn't looking.

I always remember when his next door neighbour Hannah died. Jimmy never married, and had had a love hate relationship with Hannah for many years. The lady downstairs knocked his door, and said to him-'Jimmy, I've got bad news-Hannah died during the night'. Apparently he screwed up his face before saying ruefully-'funny she's never done THAT before'!

mortonjag 2008-05-29 11:47:40
QUOTE(Trust Member @ May 29 2008, 10:55 AM) [snapback]453483[/snapback]
Just for the sake of being clear about this, Jim McColl is not an employee of Morton. He does not have a job at Morton. He is a director of Morton appointed, like all other directors, by the shareholders at the AGM of the club and he is legally, like all other directors, responsible to all shareholders. Jim has said clearly he is only there to represent the Trust as the second biggest shareholder, just as DDF represents Golden Casket as the biggest shareholder. He has said at Trust AGMs that if he were not representing the Trust there is no way he would have agreed to go on the board.
Any voluntary admin tasks he takes on are purely that, and are to help the club just as many other people do voluntary tasks to help the club whether they agree with the present administration or not.

Ultimately I believe Jim McColl should do what he feels is honourable. If he is already in that position, despite others feeling he is unable to truly represent the Trust, they should take a vote and if necessary request his resignation.

What is the legal position about directors of GMFC. Arthur Montford and Iain Brown departed recently while Alastair Donald-not currently a shareholder I believe- became a Director. Is it laid down that the Trust must have a representative on the Board?
mortonjag 2008-05-29 11:56:44
QUOTE(Alexton @ May 28 2008, 09:01 PM) [snapback]453345[/snapback]
I'm new here.

I've made up a couple of verses of a new song to the tune of an old hit, (Tom Hark by the Piranhas according to my dad). Add your own verses:
I met my mate,
the other day,
he told me he'd seen,
the white Pele,

5 feet 10,
of solid muscle,
he goes by the name
of Ian Russell.

&

I met my mate,
he asked what's new,
I told him I'd seen,
the white Cafu,

his face is tanned,
but the tan is fake,
he goes by the name
of Brian Wake



I met my mate
the other day
he told me
news I couldny swally

It seems DR
has fired DI
and gied the job
tae Super Khali
mortonjag 2008-05-29 12:00:10
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ May 29 2008, 11:59 AM) [snapback]453505[/snapback]
Wouldn't exactly say the air was fresh. tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-05-29 12:01:34
QUOTE(manchesterton @ May 29 2008, 11:55 AM) [snapback]453502[/snapback]
I missed my mate
When she came to call
I was at Firhill
Having a ball!

Are all our mates the same person?? blink.gif

Oops... I've just posted while logged in as Manchesterton.. I'm for it! Love Jackton x

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Is he hanging out the washing?
mortonjag 2008-05-29 12:08:49
QUOTE(nach0king @ May 29 2008, 12:02 PM) [snapback]453510[/snapback]
I met my mate
The other day
He had some news
From the Q&A

Mortonjag
Has inside info
But he bottled out
Of going thereto tongue.gif



I met my mate
the other week
the tale he told
has made me freak

The man who spoke
at Q & A
was Nach0king
not Dougie Rae
mortonjag 2008-05-29 12:11:59
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ May 29 2008, 12:08 PM) [snapback]453512[/snapback]
Why do silent farts always seem to smellworse than loud farts ?

'Seem' is the operative word here. The audible warning allows the sympathetic nervous system to kick into 'fight and flight' mode, and the more delicate senses like taste and smell are inhibited.

I hope that sounds informed-it's probably pure keech.
mortonjag 2008-05-29 12:34:58
QUOTE(nach0king @ May 29 2008, 12:15 PM) [snapback]453518[/snapback]
Your mate was wrong
Therein's the rub
For Dougie Rae
Is surely 'the club'?

He wouldn't let
The Nacho speak
The limelight was
What made his week

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mortonjag 2008-05-29 12:39:58
QUOTE(jackton @ May 29 2008, 12:12 PM) [snapback]453516[/snapback]
He doesn't know where the washer is,
The drier or the hob,
His answer to the chores?
"Get a woman for the job"

He never lifts a finger,
Hoover, brush or cloth
Does this make my mate
A lazy, Idle Sloth??
I'm going to quit now or I won't get my dinner made tonight.. rolleyes.gif


He's but a man
who thinks he's 'King'....
the women -pregnant-
barefoot thing

is hard to beat
I've heard it said.
Just 'shut up shop'
when you're in bed! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-29 20:19:19 It's a funny old world!

The thread was NEVER started to undermine the trust in any way-that seems to have happened as a by product, and maybe good will come of it.

The real point was that between £10,000 and £15,000 has, I believe, recently been handed over to 'the club', and given that questions asked have still not been fully answered, will the trust now ensure it is enabled to keep a precise track of moneys donated for specific purposes?
mortonjag 2008-05-29 20:27:02
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ May 29 2008, 05:34 PM) [snapback]453665[/snapback]
But clearly not as astute as someone who prefers to pay in to each home game rather than buy a season ticket. wink.gif Still, DDF will be gutted when he hears MJ won't be renewing next season. laugh.gif laugh.gif

Smiffy-don't try to second guess the Jag-you will never win. It is a carefully calculated decision and is based on more than just price-that's where the astuteness comes in-not that you'd understand.

DDFR probably will be upset that his season ticket sales are yet again down-as I've suggested before there's been a steep hike in the price of sugar recently-that will probably be as good an excuse as any.

QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 29 2008, 06:42 PM) [snapback]453693[/snapback]
Perhaps the difficulty in replying to my e-mail concerning the youth set up has further delayed correspondance to renew season tickets .
If I am not worthy of a reply to my questions I made several weeks ago I won't be handing over my money upfront .

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mortonjag 2008-05-29 20:30:05 Sorry it didn't work out, but as with Sanny it seems a fool and his money (or Golden Casket's) are easily parted.
mortonjag 2008-05-29 20:31:57 FFS that lot are taking so long to die that Jesus and Lazarus must be worried about their future street cred.
mortonjag 2008-05-29 20:39:24
QUOTE(EBu @ May 29 2008, 03:17 PM) [snapback]453601[/snapback]
I feel as if I now know you WAY too well... blink.gif

I can let you have the demo DVD if you wish.
mortonjag 2008-05-29 20:45:21
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ May 29 2008, 03:22 PM) [snapback]453606[/snapback]
Loud, rapturous farts are to be commended only when accompanied by equally witty one liners .... a few of my favourites over the years including ;

"Evening all" (performed whilst bending knees a la Dixon of Dock Green)

"you'll have to buy that now, you've ripped it"

"you'll have to speak up caller, its a terrible line"

"they're firing sir, they're firing"

"a bit more choke and that would have started".


"keep shouting sir, we'll find you"

"did somebody stand on a duck's heid"

"speak on, sweet lips that never told a lie" or the very simplistic

"well struck sir"

and so on ...........

TonInDublin

Possibly lost on the new generation but absolutely crackin' that one!

Now I know I'll not get off with this, but Dougie Rae-mike in hand-'And here's one I prepared earlier'! sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-29 20:56:52
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 29 2008, 12:28 PM) [snapback]453525[/snapback]
Aye, your old stomping ground is infested with vermin now.
That is unnervingly accurate my dear jag, you haven't been sponging the system have you.

Registered as such with their GP, hence the inability to work to which social security hand over more dough per week than to your average bevvy merchant. My point being that those registered as unable to work through drink or drugs receive more money from the government which is just plain feckin silly in my eyes.
Also I believe when you register as sick but looking for work (for some this does what it is intended to do, get those on the sick who WANT to work into the job market) you automatically have the opportunity to access a fund which is solely for your own use at the discretion of your appointed advisor.
This is much abused as the lazy b*****d Rangers fan from Ayrshire proved a few weeks ago by obtaining enough from the social to partake in the Manchester invasion.

My point is why does an alcoholic or drug addict (registered with the government rolleyes.gif ) receive extra monies?
Rent paid = approx £65pw
Council tax paid = approx £25pw

Incapacity Benefit
Incapacity short-term (lower rate) £63.75 1st 28 weeks
short-term (higher rate) £75.40 28 to 52 weeks
long-term basic rate £84.50 52 weeks +
You also have the addition of loans, grants, free travel. They can earn almost as much as the average working person in Inverclyde

Jobseeker's Allowance
Person aged 16-17: £35.65
Person aged 18-24: £46.85
Person aged 25 or over: £59.15

Can you see the madness of this current situation.

If someone looking for a job can get by on £59.15 why can't an alky or junkie get by on the same?


I was a Medical Examiner for the DHSS/DSS for over twenty years in addition to working as a G.P. in some of the most deprived areas in Scotland, so I've seen it from both sides of that divide if you like.
The system's often very unfair-our good posters will just laugh, but the Jag has had personal experience of the way it discriminates against those seeking work.

That does not alter the fact that GP's are not paid to police the Benefits system, and a large number of addicts are plainly unfit for any form of work because of their illness.
mortonjag 2008-05-29 21:00:17
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 29 2008, 08:30 PM) [snapback]453718[/snapback]
Or drug addicts, and exploiters of vulnerable young men and women for their own sexual gratification

Indeed Constable Claymore!
mortonjag 2008-05-29 21:02:28
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 29 2008, 09:01 PM) [snapback]453737[/snapback]
Let's hope you don't crash it then.......Although statistics say you probably will... tongue.gif

Are black Polos accident prone Constable?
mortonjag 2008-05-29 21:04:50
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 29 2008, 08:33 PM) [snapback]453721[/snapback]
as i said if you want further info contact us direct and we will try and answer your questions. contact us here info@gmst.org.uk

Thanks Bryan-do you also have the direct link for Mr Rae's question answering service?


Cue................. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-29 21:06:21
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 29 2008, 08:50 PM) [snapback]453730[/snapback]
http://www.saintmirren.premiumtv.co.uk/pag...1321139,00.html

if you canny see it, skunks game now sat the 26th
Ha-it's my boy's 32nd birthday. I predict a 3-2 victory- Spoonsy 2, LEAFY 1.
mortonjag 2008-05-29 21:07:58
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 29 2008, 09:05 PM) [snapback]453742[/snapback]
You talkin tae me ? blink.gif

Bloody hell-you're not a sergeant!!!


SERGEANT SPURTLE! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-29 21:10:09
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 29 2008, 09:02 PM) [snapback]453740[/snapback]
I'm always calm..... tongue.gif

I've just noticed the striking resemblance between Bawheid and SIR Cliff Richard.

Please remove that photo from the thread-I'm out of maxolon.
mortonjag 2008-05-29 21:12:52
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ May 29 2008, 09:10 PM) [snapback]453749[/snapback]
Thank you for the reassurance. wink.gif

Well done Joe-when the princess passed all the men had a race to congratulate her-now they'll probably call me and port ton pooves.
mortonjag 2008-05-29 21:17:02
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ May 29 2008, 09:00 PM) [snapback]453736[/snapback]
Is addiction an illness? Discuss.

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The World Health Organisation would say so. Those who disagree may be charged under the Disability Discrimination Act.

Let the discussion commence! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-29 21:20:03 In the first picture I see a handsome man stirring a blue and white pot.

In the second I see an ugly wretch who's been doing the same for two decades.
mortonjag 2008-05-29 21:25:04
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 29 2008, 09:12 PM) [snapback]453751[/snapback]
It's not reassurance ye need. It's insurance tongue.gif

Sergeant Spurtle in rare wit! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-29 21:26:19
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ May 29 2008, 09:22 PM) [snapback]453760[/snapback]
Totally agree. The SNP is gambling on Scotlands fear of a Tory government (and secretly hoping for a Tory win I would argue). I think a debate could be won now so why not bring it on?

Mr McArthur the Monkey has just claimed to love you.
mortonjag 2008-05-29 21:27:40
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ May 29 2008, 02:02 PM) [snapback]453555[/snapback]
Funny you should mention that, as I was just reading that apparently the Fritzl's lived on nothing but sandwiches the whole time. They say it's just as well they were all interbred.

Subway or Undergound?
mortonjag 2008-05-29 21:37:12
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 29 2008, 09:27 PM) [snapback]453763[/snapback]
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Look Sergeant-Cliff was ADORED by young women in the fifties and sixties-if he's now adored by young men......... who gives a f*ck-----he's a handsome man and if I was a pufe I bet I'd love to cuddle him.

Bawheid is one ugly c*nt whom I couldn't bear the thought of shagging for all the s's in Mississippi.
mortonjag 2008-05-29 21:41:08
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 29 2008, 09:37 PM) [snapback]453770[/snapback]
apologies for the cliché, but you see what you want to see sad.gif

Don't you mean 'I see what I want to see' or better still, 'one sees what one wants to see'.

You see, Trumpet- Sergeant Spurtle really wants to see a naked Sir Cliff's identity- if you see it as I want you to see it.
mortonjag 2008-05-29 21:44:24 The McCanns may be as pure as the driven snow, but they were daft enough to upset the Polis.

They deserve all they are now getting.

Nobody beats the Polis.
mortonjag 2008-05-29 21:47:11
QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 29 2008, 08:39 PM) [snapback]453723[/snapback]
WoooHooo !!!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Best news i've read in ages.
f*** off gretna, you wont be missed one bit !

BEER MONKEY-where have you been my old mate-you are WELCOME to slag me to f*ck-the current lot are pure crap! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-29 21:48:42
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 29 2008, 09:45 PM) [snapback]453776[/snapback]
no, i did mean 'you'

You are a trouble making turd-but I like you.
mortonjag 2008-05-29 21:50:21
QUOTE(The Bewilderedbeast @ May 29 2008, 09:38 PM) [snapback]453772[/snapback]
It's my 48th birthday, 3-1 to the 'Ton, Wake (2) and new striker (1) laugh.gif

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8-4 to the Ton

The mighty Khali 7 Millen o.g.
mortonjag 2008-05-29 21:54:07
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 29 2008, 09:06 PM) [snapback]453745[/snapback]
rolleyes.gif if you dont want to directly ask us the question, pm me and ill pass them on to jim..

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You misunderstood-I was wanting to ask Shoogly if he's doing anything this weekend.
mortonjag 2008-05-29 21:56:21
QUOTE(midTONs @ May 29 2008, 08:47 PM) [snapback]453728[/snapback]
laugh.gif

You are kidding ain't you? laugh.gif

edit to add - After doing a wee bit of digging I find out that Ian Brown and Jim McColl were the only directors the only other reps there from the club were the groundsman and the accountant.
I think that shows contempt for not only the fans but the shareholders too, another example of what GMFC think of those ''below them''.

The question that springs to mind is who at Cappielow arranged a EGM the same day as the SFL AGM.

He's not even a director!

Who is this accountant wallah BTW-some claim he knows hee haw!
mortonjag 2008-05-29 22:10:24
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 29 2008, 10:00 PM) [snapback]453782[/snapback]
you ask him tongue.gif

no questions then for the trust or jim rolleyes.gif

I've already said my gripe is not with the trust Bryan-your exaggerated 'openness' is beginning to make me feel suspicious.

Put more simply-'WE HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE'-said five or six times when nobody claimed you have, rings alarm bells.

I'll work on this, and sleep well. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-29 22:15:46
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 29 2008, 10:12 PM) [snapback]453791[/snapback]
laugh.gif nothing exagerated, im just seeing if you would ask anything tongue.gif

Ok then-see thae fake invoices McColl claims are up at Auld Shoogly's bit. The Monkey delivered them tae the fraud squad earlier the day.
mortonjag 2008-05-29 22:38:30
QUOTE(marbellaton @ May 29 2008, 10:09 PM) [snapback]453787[/snapback]
If that is your opinion aswell then hold me back, because I agree with you. He is a complete and utter pillock of a man and has been DDFR's financial lapdog for years.

I don't know who this mysterious 'accountant' is-though he must be a qualified accountant if he's doing the books-OR WAIT-the books are 'certified' by a local CA firm-----------HA------------- dry.gif


I could be wrong but there is a poster on this rag who regularly produces accountant like rumblings-indeed he has posted no earlier than this very day.

Could this be the man of whom we speak simultaneously-I DO hope I'm not making a complete ass of myself here. I'm very guilty of misjudging the 'Shoogly Show'.
mortonjag 2008-05-29 22:51:24
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 29 2008, 10:19 PM) [snapback]453799[/snapback]
that's a 'no', then ohmy.gif

I have carefully observed you Trumpet.

I hope you'll forgive me for opining that you are indeed no supporter of Greenock Morton. You remain anonymous-don't attend matches, and only ever post in an attention seeking manner.

'Pot, kettle, black'-I hear you cry, pathetically attempting to upstage the cliche mad masses.

Correct my friend, but my attention seeking is done with genuine altruism. I love Greenock Morton, and I detest dictatorship.

Why don't you move over to the enlightened side?

There again maybe you ARE Auld Shoogly-if you are, I don't really hate you ya auld fud-just try to grow up-it can't possibly be 'your ba' all the time. wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-29 23:00:27
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 29 2008, 09:43 PM) [snapback]453774[/snapback]
At last a website that gives less info than GMFC .
If they survive it will give the Shire another chance of not finishing bottom .
Bye bye country bumpkins .

I genuinely wonder what the first thing to cross Mileson's mind is when he wakes up of a morning.

I'd imagine he's firmly focussed on the company that's currently under most VAT scrutiny.

'Brooks Dear-it looks like Gretna are finally going under'

'Don't talk rubbish Honey-we're folding them this week, and doing another 'Phoenix'.

'I said GRETNA Angel'

'GRETNA-oh that football club thing in Scotland-I'm glad Rowan and I sorted things out-more toast please my sweetie!
mortonjag 2008-05-29 23:04:20
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ May 29 2008, 11:02 PM) [snapback]453824[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED
mortonjag 2008-05-29 23:09:02
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 29 2008, 10:06 PM) [snapback]453786[/snapback]
I agree , any politician who stood by their convictions is as extinct as the perverbial dodo .


Shooooooooooogly


mortonjag 2008-05-29 23:10:10
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 29 2008, 10:13 PM) [snapback]453794[/snapback]
Marauding Rangers supporters would put your theory to the test . tongue.gif

Nobody beats the POLIS-ask Sergeant Spurtle! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-29 23:13:38
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 29 2008, 09:32 PM) [snapback]453768[/snapback]

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OOOOOOOOH errr Sergeant Spurtle-you are awful-but I like you---WALLOP!
mortonjag 2008-05-29 23:17:15 UPDATE

Click on 'Mortonjag' and you'll see a rather sad fotie of my geetar and amp.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 07:48:49
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ May 30 2008, 12:23 AM) [snapback]453844[/snapback]
This all sound as exciting as the AGM that I was attending in Glasgow tonight - as for making an ass of yourself - shurely shome mistake... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

BTW the GMFC accounts are not certified - they are audited by a firm controlled and regulated by the Institute of Chartered Accountants in Scotland. An audit opinion is most different from "certified" accounts...

What are your qualifications Tail Bearer?

Mine are lengthy, and if posted here I will be abused. Fortunately Shooglyphilia is now more sporadic than endemic and my last antibody titres were high.

Oh'---and my wee brother's annual turnover's about £700,000,000-it's not his money-mind-he's just the accountant in charge. He has a first class Honours Degree from a proper University

My wee brother's a trust member I believe.

My son's a First Class Honours law graduate, also from a decidedly proper University, but not quite as proper as that previously mentioned.

My daughter has a PH.D in psychology. Sometimes she's too proper for her own good.

My other son's businesses are turning over hmm-shall we say a figure approaching 10 million p.a.

I am Company Secretary for one of his endeavours.

The Monkey is a Graduate of many improper Universities-and like his dad is a bit embarrassed to quote his unending list of skills.

Fing is an accomplished nail gun hit man.


Most importantly, I forgot to add, though it's oft been mentioned before.

I've supported Greenock Morton all my life, my heart's in the right place (certified) and as long as there's breath in my botty I will continue anonymously to suffocate the directors box of a Saturday afternoon.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 07:57:02
QUOTE(The Naitch @ May 30 2008, 06:25 AM) [snapback]453865[/snapback]
So now you're welcoming abuse? Have your fishing trips been that bad lately? rolleyes.gif

I have always encouraged decent abuse-beermonkey is just-------well------ abusive-and that's OK by me.

The abusers with (what they think are) hidden agendas waste so much of this great man's precious time.

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mortonjag 2008-05-30 08:10:47
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 29 2008, 09:28 PM) [snapback]453765[/snapback]
The monkey is a homo ohmy.gif


Fing wants to know who's calling his bruvver a pufe.


QUOTE(El gofer @ May 30 2008, 03:22 AM) [snapback]453860[/snapback]
Few drinks down the line but, I am hoping we go with the referendum , as I think it would be yes if the facts came out.

The fact that people think that whisky and oil are the main exports maybe true now, but the figures for other engineering and manufacturing is more significant than is anticipated. We in Scotland are not and will not be a 2nd world country.
The main raw resource is ourselves and the under 25s that folk on here are so ready to call for all the s***e under the sun in the daily mail express and this forum. I will openly own up to being a lily arsed whatever, but until the whole system of giving our young people qualifications and preparation for work is overhalled (sp) then we cant even think properly of moving forward. Weans coming out of school without standard grades in french /modern studies /history/english for example, who get into alsorts of grief in those subjects, but are look for any sort of access into a trade. I am a history and mod stud teacher. I love my subjects and look to make sure all weans who come through my class enjoy studying the subjects. i reckon that for a lot of the guys who left my standard grade class this year, are wondering about their fifth year in school or college or work. They will think about the money they will get for staying in school next year. I hope their fifth is fruitful.....the present system doesnt make it too easy.

I want an independent Scotland that is geared up for our young folk and also set up for our deserving elderly who have worked and paid.
I may sound like tommy sheridan but am by no means him or his people's front of judea.

Signed.

A skiving teacher with a few idealistic ( but realistic..though slightly drink assisted!) thoughts

Mon e ton!



You sound as much like Sherrybum as Bawheid looks like Homo Sapiens.


Salmond becomes more pragmatic, paranoid, and myopic, by the day.


Power without responsibility- the haven of the personality disordered and politician.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 08:19:22
QUOTE(NewTon @ May 30 2008, 02:48 AM) [snapback]453859[/snapback]
Children as young as two are taking Ritalin to treat ADHD, and more than 300 kids aged five and under in NSW depend on the controversial drug.

ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

bring back the 1950s

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=571757

A classical example of the cart pulling the horse!

Unruly brats, most of them with parents on the 'me, me , me' treadmill, who haven't time to bring up their status symbols properly.

How dare anybody suggest that their assertive and attention craving sprogs are little mirrors of their parents.

NO-they must be suffering from a disease, and the disease MUST be treated or else.


I'd suggest 25% might genuinely benefit from Ritalin-the parents of the rest require little pink botty therapy.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 08:28:42
QUOTE(Alibi @ May 30 2008, 08:20 AM) [snapback]453874[/snapback]
I don't think the Tories would dare try to abolish the Scottish Parliament. Anyway, would they not need to get approval for that course of action in a referendum? - and there is no way that Scots would vote for that, even most Scottish Tories would tell him to get tae.



I genuinely believe that Scotland can do well by itself-a once proud nation has undoubtedly had its potency diluted by many factors, including membership of the United Kingdom.

This is how I believe a large number of Scots of varying political leanings think.

What Salmond HAS done-and it was no small achievement, is to show that the dream has become a possibility.

Now he appears to go out of his way to demonstrate how BADLY it can be done. Let's have a referendum sooner rather than later-he's shooting himself in the foot by dallying, and he's denying us the real opportunity to move onward.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 08:35:35
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 30 2008, 08:28 AM) [snapback]453876[/snapback]
good grief sad.gif

So you are Shoogly.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 08:37:19
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 30 2008, 08:25 AM) [snapback]453875[/snapback]
you're in danger of exhausting you tit ration with one post tongue.gif

I wasn't addressing you Trumpet Shoogly-the post was for the Tail Bearer.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 08:44:23 I first heard that in Primary Five. Miss Gallie explained that a 'cloot' is a garment, and that in Scotland the weather was often unsettled through May.


Over the last ten or twenty years, I've rarely had a need to go oot 'clooted' in May, but just when I was getting complacent, the month about to end has been one of the coolest and most unpredictable I can remember.

Get it sorted Bawheid-it's Scotland's sun.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 09:27:13
QUOTE(se65an @ May 30 2008, 09:11 AM) [snapback]453887[/snapback]
But he has nothing to hide. What reason would the Trust have to hide anything.

Unless the trust us being lied to Bryan is 100% right.

I still feel the bigger question is why are we trying to run a youth operation from only donations from the Trust etc, why isn't DDR putting money into making sure it is run correctly, and professionally

Sean-

Jim, Bryan, Stuart et al are good guys-please don't misunderstand me-but they are good guys whose cage has clearly been rattled. I believe they feel vulnerable because they secretly know that Rae has called every shot from day one. Nobody likes his impotence displayed in public.

Rather than cow towing, the Trust should IMO have taken a stout stand over many issues.

Rae has treated the fans like sh*t several times and walked away unscathed. Others have had the balls to criticise openly on this forum and don't imagine for one minute Rae doesn't know all about it-indeed this forum is FAR more potent than attendance at his carefully timed and stage managed 'Shoogly Show' embarrassments.

Wake up and smell the coffee. E-mail the club and 'the club' will respond if it sees fit-only IF!

Attend the Shoogly Show, and 'the club' will answer questions only if it sees fit.


Make donations to the club, and it appears 'the club' will use them as it sees fit.


Mention that on this forum, and all hell breaks loose.

There's never smoke without fire Sean.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 09:38:15
QUOTE(jpmil @ May 30 2008, 09:30 AM) [snapback]453898[/snapback]
I think that the interested party in taking over Gretna will vanish with this decision. Davies said that he hoped they would be allowed to play in Div. 1 as that would give them the bigger gates against Morton, Partick,
St. Johnston adn Dundee. With these gates no langer available I feel the possible deal is a dead duck.

F*CK Davies and F*CK Gretna, and F*CK Elliot, and SUPER F*CK the SPL.

This should all have been over months ago-it has been protracted for one reason only-GREED.

The whole of Scottish football, barring the self protection league, has suffered needlessly.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 09:41:33
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 30 2008, 08:50 AM) [snapback]453882[/snapback]
MJ, you have quite simply been hoodwinked by Wendy Alexander ! (oh the embarrassment rolleyes.gif )

Salmond would not be allowed to call a referendum right now. They (Labour) would squabble over the question right up to the next Holyrood election. Then they couldn't be accused of not supprting a referendum (just the question needing to be sorted)
The referendum will be the main issue of the next Holyrood election. That's why all oppostion parties are not directly ruling one out.
Last week Annabel Goldie had to be asked 4 TIMES in a BBC interview if she would vote against the SNP Bill that would be brought to parliament in 2010. The leader of the Scottish Tories didn't want to be pinned down on an empahtic NO just now because she knows it could spell electoral disaster for her and her party !

Labour know this as well. They know they are unpopular just now, and opposing a referendum in 2011 will make them more unpopular. That's why we had Wendy's bluster with "Bring it on !"
Brown would never in a million years allow them to compromise with the SNP over a referendum question right now.

I'm just surprised how many have been taken in by this blatent bluff, and by Alexander of all people !


I merely opined that a referendum NOW is what would be best for Scotland.

Just a wee point too- poor Bendy would not be human if she got it wrong ALL the time.

Hmm-maybe that was poorly put!
mortonjag 2008-05-30 09:43:36 mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif

Don't you dare question me Spurtle-where I live it's been bloody freezing-those figures are lies churned out by the global warming SPL.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 09:47:12
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 30 2008, 09:27 AM) [snapback]453896[/snapback]
Is this wise, my BNF cautions tthe following re maxolon.
unsure.gif

Stick to your periodic tables you wannabe quack and stop insulting middle aged folk.

Life begins at sixty and only gets better smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-30 09:50:43
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 30 2008, 09:28 AM) [snapback]453897[/snapback]
Watch what you say my friend, the DDF Fan Club will stone you to death with Fudgy Wudgy.

That'll be nine Fudgy Wudgys then.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 09:59:20
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ May 30 2008, 08:55 AM) [snapback]453884[/snapback]
you're in danger of exhausting you tit ration with one post tongue.gif
ps thanks for your geneology lesson but I could not give a flying fig about it tongue.gif rolleyes.gif laugh.gif

A flying fig would not interest a lazy ass. Horses and donkeys are often rewarded with lumps of sugar. wink.gif

Tail Bearer-you sound irritated by my question- I did merely ask what your qualifications are, given that you paste stuff on here from the learners' Book of Numbers.

If you're just a kid on accountant, don't be embarrassed-the forum is full of jokers.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 10:00:54
QUOTE(Cawston @ May 30 2008, 09:16 AM) [snapback]453889[/snapback]
Sounds very positive, would be great to see some real progress with the stadium.
Got to assume Alistair Donald be taking up a fair chunk, can't see the other existing shareholders coughing up £600K.

I wouldn't jump the gun on that. Donald's a sharp cookie who would want control of his money.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 10:17:13
QUOTE(Alibi @ May 30 2008, 10:05 AM) [snapback]453910[/snapback]
What Labour are desperately trying to avoid (apart from having a referendum at all) is having a referendum after another year or two of a broadly popular SNP government. By that time their traditional fear campaign will be useless. They want it sooner rather than later and they want to load the question - "Do you want Scotland to be isolated, ripped out of the UK and separated from the rest of the world" or something like that would be their preferred format.

The SNP government stated in their manifesto what they would do and they are sticking to it. It would be quite wrong, and bad tactics IMHO, to allow Labour to dictate the timetable. Or the wording. Of course the SNP wants to maximise their chances. Why not? The unionists will use every dirty trick possible, so the SNP has to counter that.


I'm just a simple soul who wants to know if the Scots want independence.

Bring it on.

If the result has to be fiddled-forget it.


Do you want Scotland to become a totally independent self governing nation within the next five years.


YES


NO
mortonjag 2008-05-30 10:24:28
QUOTE(se65an @ May 30 2008, 10:17 AM) [snapback]453912[/snapback]
I fully agree that all costs and how people hard earned money that they donate should be made public. And I raised this at the last GMST meeting.

But from a Trust point of view it does have nothing to hide, just a bunch of guys giving up there spare time for what they believe in. Its very easy to point the finger, but the trust needs members and more people on the board to make things work.

I just love all the people on here staying the trust should do this and that, but will they volenteer to help out?

As I said the issue is not with the Trust, though things could be better if more joined up, but with DDR, so if that is your point I agree.

How can any 'profesional' club run a youth setup, with donations alone, and being run by Jim who has no experience(not a critism of Jim at all, more of DDR).

So to me, its not how the money is being spent(though I do know how it is) its why the hell is DDR trying to do it on the cheap(no cost at all to Morton)

I would love to ask DDR a million questions on this and other Morton issues if given the chance. biggrin.gif


Shoogly's skint-how many times do I have to say it-certainly in terms of GMFC-and his dealings, IMO, always carry the 'Cheapskate' trade mark.

A man whose personal wealth makes Rae look like a church mouse is hovering.

He could easily invest heavily-indeed he could easily buy the Rae family out.

The fact that he has not speaks volumes. sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-30 11:09:56
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ May 30 2008, 11:07 AM) [snapback]453932[/snapback]
Seems a bit odd that DI could tell Jamie wasnt good enough in that short period of time (regardless of what happens in training), I dont believe a manager like DI with DC alongside couldnt inspire a player to overcome this "attitude" problem he's supposed to have, there is no doubt he has talent, and that talent could be used, I really belive Irons and Collins could inspire and work with him.. does the decision to let him go come from somewhere else ??? just a thought



The last story was that DI wanted to loan him out but Rae wanted his money back.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 11:14:20
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ May 30 2008, 08:55 AM) [snapback]453884[/snapback]
you're in danger of exhausting you tit ration with one post tongue.gif
ps thanks for your geneology lesson but I could not give a flying fig about it tongue.gif rolleyes.gif laugh.gif


ge·ne·al·o·gy Audio Help /ˌdʒiniˈɒlədʒi, -ˈæl-, ˌdʒɛni-/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[jee-nee-ol-uh-jee, -al-, jen-ee-] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun, plural -gies.
1. a record or account of the ancestry and descent of a person, family, group, etc.
2. the study of family ancestries and histories.
3. descent from an original form or progenitor; lineage; ancestry.

No qualifications in English either I see.


QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ May 30 2008, 10:40 AM) [snapback]453917[/snapback]
Au contrair mon ami, irritation is something that doctors give you a cream for! The thought of a cream coming from you just does not bear thinking about... wink.gif

As for kid on accountant - that is more in the realm of Hamcam and his goat fetish...


That confirms what I thought-all bluff and bluster-no qualifications-you haven't tried politics perchance?
mortonjag 2008-05-30 11:18:53
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ May 30 2008, 11:05 AM) [snapback]453929[/snapback]
From the age of about 4 I used to go out to play with my mates ''all day long'' but I don't hold my parents responsible for abandonement.

I don't think Maddie's accusing her parents of anything.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 11:20:45
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 30 2008, 11:12 AM) [snapback]453938[/snapback]
Urban myth I'm afraid.

Stanley only ever shot inside the box.

I see you've read Lady Matthews' blog.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 11:22:37
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ May 30 2008, 11:11 AM) [snapback]453936[/snapback]
why is that our away strips and now the new 3rd kit have that stupid non-collar on them.. you know the one that sits on your shoulder !! absolutely horrible.. but the new home strip looks great, quality looks great and material feels good.. cant wait to get one.



Don't ask questions on the rag-e-mail 'the club'.

You are guaranteed no answer.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 12:16:36
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ May 30 2008, 11:25 AM) [snapback]453948[/snapback]
So essentially what you are indicating is that only qualified accountants can speak with any authority on financial matters...or is it only people who are called Mortonjag have any knowledge and authority on these matters?

In your list of qualifications - are there any for accountancy?

QED as they used to say in ancient Rome...

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You're really not very bright at all are you? ohmy.gif

I'm sorry-it appears I've misjudged you. No way would that fly old Shooglemeister employ a clown as his accountant and spy.

Please accept my unreserved apology for any offence.

I also apologise for any confusion about my qualifications-like Mr Rae, I have long experience of running my own business/es, but have no accountancy degree.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 12:19:07
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ May 30 2008, 11:52 AM) [snapback]453957[/snapback]
Prestonpans. Wouldn't mind seeing the return of Clydebank. They got their own stadium yet?

How's the jail my old friend-any sign of early parole?
mortonjag 2008-05-30 12:23:04
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ May 30 2008, 11:55 AM) [snapback]453960[/snapback]
That is my point jag, if someone is capable of challenging the world 100m record when fleeing from the town after a rather brazen act of shoplifting, is so good at working out weights and financial costs relating to a 'deal', has the ability to barter like the best in a bazaar, or can enter a house faster than a joiner or locksmith surely that person is fit for some sort of work.

The fact they receive more to feed their habit is the most galling part of our benefits system.

Very true, but the fact that they are also 'oot ther faces' for the rest of the time renders them unemployable.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 12:25:23
QUOTE(Edinton @ May 30 2008, 12:23 PM) [snapback]453968[/snapback]
So we're definitely sure she was kidnapped aye?

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mortonjag 2008-05-30 12:29:09
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ May 30 2008, 12:20 PM) [snapback]453966[/snapback]
Oooooooooh impressive

Thank you-you are one of the kindest posters who clearly gives great thought before pouncing on his keyboard.

I've actually underplayed it quite a bit as we DO have some very bright folk on the Rag, and I don't want them getting upset, or feeling inferior.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 12:33:18
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ May 30 2008, 11:53 AM) [snapback]453958[/snapback]
yes , but i'm not talking about a tranfer fee to buy a player, I'm saying if the chairman is putting pressure on the management team to offload a talented player because he "wants his money back" then what chance have the management team got to influence the footballing side.. limited .. and as we seen with ALL our previous managers if they are not allowed to influence and control the footballing side as they see fit, then we are in trouble.. ..

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Surely Mr Rae would never do that sort of thing!
mortonjag 2008-05-30 12:41:12 TODAY on GMFC



The Draw for the First Round of The Scottish Football League Challenge Cup took place at Hampden Park on Thursday 29th May. The draw saw Morton receive one of the two "byes" available.

The draw is as follows:-

NORTH/EAST DRAW

Ross County -v- St. Johnstone
Alloa Athletic -v- Dundee
Arbroath -v- Forfar Athletic
Brechin City -v- East Fife
Dunfermline Athletic -v- Stirling Albion
Peterhead -v- Montrose
Elgin City -v- Cowdenbeath

BYE: RAITH ROVERS


SOUTH/WEST DRAW

East Stirlingshire -v- Ayr United
Clyde -v- Gretna
Stenhousemuir -v- Albion Rovers
Partick Thistle -v- Queen's Park
Berwick Rangers -v- Queen of the South
Livingston -v- Stranraer
Airdrie United -v- Dumbarton

BYE: MORTON

The above ties will be played on Saturday 26th July 2008


....and still not a whisper about McManus! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-30 13:01:09
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ May 30 2008, 12:42 PM) [snapback]453980[/snapback]
Is this the world record for retracting a statement?

Perhaps you are the one who should consider a political career... laugh.gif laugh.gif rolleyes.gif

I wasn't aware that I had made a statement Neddy. It just occurred to me that others had been talking about Mr Rae having a personal spy on this forum, and for a while I wondered if you might be that person because you seemed to have inside knowedge about the accounts and stuff.

I had a very serious discussion with the Monkey (fing was about do do a nail gun hit on you btw), and we both agreed that although Mr Rae may not be everybody's cup of tea, in NO WAY would such a bright man ever employ such an apparent clown as you.

It was really that simple, but I'm unsurprised that I had to spell it out for you.

So you see-there was no retraction of any kind-just an apology for misjudging your ability.

Oh and unlike you unlike what I had clearly erroneously thought about you, I've never dabbled in politics.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 13:04:35
QUOTE(Muz @ May 30 2008, 12:35 PM) [snapback]453976[/snapback]
Just saw Jonaton's Blog. What a tool Stevenson is for posting that on there, regardless of whether McLaughlin's profile is private or not, some people on there are Ton fans I would imagine so it was obviously going to get out.....for sure on this site anyways!

Try effort Jamie, and not being in the eternal huff all the time, you might get a game......it's nothing to do with your height, more your heart.....

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So there's NO point in Sanny re-applying?
mortonjag 2008-05-30 13:13:10
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 30 2008, 01:08 PM) [snapback]453984[/snapback]
Unfortunately TaunTon the referendum would only be able to pass through parliament with the help of opposition parties.
Labour are the only party at present who "seem" to be in favour of this. As I have mentioned, they will want their own question on the referendum. One that is favourable to the unionist agenda.
You are correct when you say, "potential squabbles over the question is a complete red herring as any prevarication by opposition parties will be correctly identified by the electorate as fear of giving the people a choice. "
But to maximise this, it would be better to bring the Bill to parliament in 2010, just before the elections. Parties opposing the referendum, or messing about with the question, could pay dearly at the election that would follow on the heels of the bill being put to parliament.
That's why the timing if this is so important.


Spurtle-is a referendum not intended to discover the wishes of the PEOPLE?
mortonjag 2008-05-30 13:29:13
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 30 2008, 01:23 PM) [snapback]453988[/snapback]
steady

EH-are you going to start banning obvious jokes Bryan. As I said earlier I don't think the trust has deliberately done anything wrong, so why the apparent paranoia? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-30 13:31:08
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 30 2008, 01:25 PM) [snapback]453989[/snapback]
Aye.... blink.gif

.......why, then, does it matter when they vote on an issue of principle?
mortonjag 2008-05-30 13:36:56
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 30 2008, 01:34 PM) [snapback]453994[/snapback]
what am i banning rolleyes.gif

.......anyway I thought you were meant to be off on holiday! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-30 13:38:59
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 30 2008, 01:32 PM) [snapback]453993[/snapback]
http://www.scottishfootballleague.com/news...amp;newsid=2413 these were run this week, and we did go to it, i wonder if we signed anyone from them for the under 19s.

GMFC.net for this pish
mortonjag 2008-05-30 13:40:23
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 30 2008, 01:39 PM) [snapback]453997[/snapback]
from modding, not posting tongue.gif

hmm-there's a difference then? sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-30 13:42:22
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 30 2008, 01:41 PM) [snapback]453999[/snapback]
i have no powers rolleyes.gif

then I may call you a jobby with no fear of a ban? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-30 13:46:08
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 30 2008, 01:42 PM) [snapback]454001[/snapback]
Because you need to put it before parliament before you can put it to the people.

WTF are you blabbering about-they are there right now-just f*ckin' ask the question NOW.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 14:10:32
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 30 2008, 01:56 PM) [snapback]454007[/snapback]
laugh.gif i could report you tongue.gif

you wouldn't dare you wee jobby!
mortonjag 2008-05-30 14:15:39
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ May 30 2008, 01:50 PM) [snapback]454004[/snapback]
As a fan and shareholder, and one who actually attended the EGM unlike many of the posters, I find most of the contributions to this thread rather depressing TBH. I am actually pleased that the Club is having a share issue to fund a programme of further redevelopment work at Cappielow which is required if we are to realise our aspirations for a return to the SPL. To be frank, who represented the Club at the meeting is, for me at least, irrelevant although it gives anti-Rae posters like MJ an excuse to go off on a rant. For those who salivate on such minutia, the Club representatives were Iain Brown (Honorary VP) and Jim McColl (Director). The auditor, whose role is independent, was not representing the Club per se and the Groundsman was there in his capacity as a shareholder. mad.gif

Frank Smith-depressed fan, shareholder and member of that dying breed-the 'pro Rae poster'!

GIRUY my friend! dry.gif

QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ May 30 2008, 01:53 PM) [snapback]454006[/snapback]
What a plonker! All this smacks of a sad man with a huge inferiority complex. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Oh don't worry itchy baws-it's maybe going right over your head, but it's sure achieving exactly what was planned.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 14:19:12
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 30 2008, 01:48 PM) [snapback]454003[/snapback]
blink.gif
WTF you on about ? Has the Sun go to you ?

I am immune to all types of ray.


ASK THE PEOPLE NOW


Why not? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-30 14:21:24
QUOTE(tigerjock @ May 30 2008, 02:00 PM) [snapback]454009[/snapback]
barbie, i'm afraid our gourock bretheren is of a bleating heart type.......a good old can of unleaded followed by one of the red head skinny sticks out a box of swan vestas would give them something to think about

You plan on setting fire to a church?
mortonjag 2008-05-30 14:23:39
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 30 2008, 01:59 PM) [snapback]454008[/snapback]
Labour poll blow: Party popularity at hits new low

http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/politics/L...rity.4136027.jp

GORDON Brown's popularity among voters is the same as Sir John Major's at his lowest point and worse than Michael Foot, according to a poll today. rolleyes.gif

It just goes to show how an overambitious Scotsman can f*ck any party Spurtle.

Don't be too smug.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 14:33:07
QUOTE(El gofer @ May 30 2008, 02:24 PM) [snapback]454018[/snapback]
WTF has your family's qualifications got to do with anything???

O MY GOD !!!!

That has to be one of the most self obsessed and self important posts I have read!!!

Cue some abusive post.

Its amazing how people can post with authority whe when not in attendance.

But hey!! lets just surmise anyway!!!



I take it you are posting from school Sir. That's the kind of thing I've come to expect of folk the same age as my kids who have issues with others' success.

Mr Bam doesn't seem to mind the Jag and his fishing rod though I'd already made my catch when you posted. Enjoy the rest of the afternoon impressing folk closer to your age than you are to mine! wink.gif wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-30 15:01:22
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 30 2008, 02:51 PM) [snapback]454026[/snapback]
We have to get the question and the timing right. We may only get one chance of this in a generation.
We have suffered this union for 301 years, I'll wait another couple of years to end it for good.

You TOTALLY miss the point Spurtle.

You go on, and on, and on about the virtues of Scotland and being Scottish, and then imply that the very people you praise have to be told what they want at 'a correct time'.

I don't want a f*cking referendum to make sure that clown Bawheid's still on the throne-I want to know if the folk of Scotland wish total independence.

I for one DO, and will vote in a simple 'yes or no' referendum if offered the opportunity. If I feel it's tarted up to suit ANY political party, I'll simply abstain.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 15:07:35
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 30 2008, 02:52 PM) [snapback]454027[/snapback]
I'm not smug. I'm happy laugh.gif





I know a fat ole policeman, hes always on our street
A fat old, jolly red-faced man, he really is a treat
Hes too fine for a policeman, hes never known to frown
And everybody says he is the happiest man in town



He laughs upon his duty, he laughs upon his beat
He laughs at everybody when hes walking in the street
He never can stop laughing, he says he'd never tried
But once he did arrest a man and laughed until he died



Oh, His jolly face had wrinkled, and then he shut his eyes
He opened his great mouth, it was a wonderous size
He said I must arrest you, I didn't know what for
And then he starting laughing, until he cracked his jaw



So if you chance to meet him while walking round the town
Just shake him by his ole fat hand and give him half a crown
His eyes beam and sparkle, he'll gurgle with delight
His name is Sergeant Spurtle-well at least I think that's right.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 15:14:48
QUOTE(se65an @ May 30 2008, 03:07 PM) [snapback]454034[/snapback]
Bryan, report him... rolleyes.gif

I'll do it, where's that button

laugh.gif


Many a finger has hovered over the two buttons Sean-'Report' and 'Huff'.

I think it's usually that way too-when the Mods ignore the girning weans, they press their little huff buttons (always remembering to keek out in case they're missing something).

Anyway, everybody knows Bryan's a jobby!
mortonjag 2008-05-30 15:17:07
QUOTE(maccaboy @ May 30 2008, 03:12 PM) [snapback]454035[/snapback]
jeez, that takes me back.......

.......Wullie McLean, aka "Coco the Cypriot" - worst manager in years (aye, WORSER than JM, by a fair margin!)
Think they took that picture of Pettigrew when the moon was full? unsure.gif



Really? The years haven't been good for your brain.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 15:23:19
QUOTE(Malt @ May 30 2008, 03:02 PM) [snapback]454031[/snapback]
Take the snake pie!!




INGREDIENTS
Rattle Snake
2 Blocks of Butter
Garlic Powder
Salt
Pepper
Cream Cheese
Beer Batter
Tooth Picks
Lots of Deep fryin oil

Directions
Take long pieces of your rattle snake

Take cream cheese and add good size amount on your snake meat.

Add small amounts of garlic, salt and pepper to cream cheese.

Roll snake into long pieces.

Take your butter and melt it then take your snake and cheese and let sit in butter.

Take your favorite beer batter and let the snake sit in the batter for a matter of minutes.

You will need to stick your tooth picks in the snake when you fry or the cream cheese will go all over the place.

Then take your snake rolls and drop in oil . let fry tell golden brown and then enjo
mortonjag 2008-05-30 15:27:18
QUOTE(port-ton @ May 30 2008, 03:18 PM) [snapback]454038[/snapback]
Davie Irons wants rid of Stevenson, if he didn't he wouldnt be leaving. Because Irons wants rid of Stevenson, Rae has decided he wants a fee for him. It happens with every club accross the world, not just the mighty Morton.

i wish people would stop looking for things to blame Dougie for, he has enough faults on his own without people trying to add more all the time over nothing.



I've never found it necessary!

Maybe the best way of pleasing everybody would be for Davie Irons to give Mr Rae some money-I'm not really sure which of them is the wealthier but that's not really the point I guess.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 15:30:48
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ May 30 2008, 03:29 PM) [snapback]454045[/snapback]
My renewal invite arrived today - £260 which is only a tenner more than last year from memory!

Unlike those who wish to make a protest, I will be renewing mine as will ma boy!

MJ where do you sit in the stand - I might prefer your seat to my existing one laugh.gif



If you're serious pm me-you'll be within spitting distance of the Chairman! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-30 15:37:58
QUOTE(El gofer @ May 30 2008, 03:29 PM) [snapback]454047[/snapback]
No sir, Inverclyde Council have their holiday this weekend.

Enjoy yourself then-I'm sure the brats were off last weekend up here!
mortonjag 2008-05-30 15:42:49
QUOTE(port-ton @ May 30 2008, 03:35 PM) [snapback]454051[/snapback]
you have valid reasons about the problems with Dougie, although they or over-used a little too much, but valid none the less. So you or anyone else dont need to make things up that aren't there about him. He's only doing what every chairman in the land does, but because he's Dougie Rae all of a sudden this is a crime.



If I was Dougie Rae, I'd be a bit miffed, and I bet the other GC shareholders ain't too pleased either.

I thought Stevenson was a good signing, and I'm slightly pissed off with the slaggings he's had. A part time second division outfit could get him on fire, yet he withered at Cappielow-and is not the first player in that category.

Maybe the parachutists descending upon Cappielow wasn't such a good idea.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 15:43:54
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ May 30 2008, 03:37 PM) [snapback]454052[/snapback]
But Irons seemed to saying that Stevenson was free to leave if he could find a club, as in no club would have to pay a fee for him if they wanted as we wanted him off the wage bill. Now Rae's saying we want a fee. Surely they would have discussed this at the time and decided then if they wanted a fee or not, rather than not communicating and sending out mixed messages?

Stop being obtuse! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-30 15:47:39
QUOTE(El gofer @ May 30 2008, 03:40 PM) [snapback]454056[/snapback]
I read that again and see it as a bit of a personal attack so I apologise for that.

Still unimpressed though.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

No, no you misunderstand-this is a day for apologies it seems-Mortonjag wasn't trying to impress-that is the wrong verb Sir.

Mortonjag was giving out information which Mortonjag considered relevant to a question Mortonjag was simultaneously asking of a certain poster who likes to remain anonymous! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-30 15:50:19
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 30 2008, 03:29 PM) [snapback]454046[/snapback]
Sorry to disapoint you doc. I'm naw a policeman


FFS Claymore c***-why has it taken you three days to give that simple detail-you're WORSE than thae effin MSP's you get your rocks off listening to.

OK for the umpteenth time-why are you not in the Bawheid Club? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-30 15:55:00
QUOTE(El gofer @ May 30 2008, 03:48 PM) [snapback]454061[/snapback]
Seems clear enough to me.......!

tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-30 15:56:41
QUOTE(port-ton @ May 30 2008, 03:53 PM) [snapback]454064[/snapback]
so maybe its Irons that wrong in this case? at the end of the day if Rae wants a fee for stevenson then Irons shouldnt be telling him he can leave the club for free. Even if Rae changes his mind at the last minute that he wants a fee for Stevenson he's entitled to do so, and even speaking as a Morton fan i'd much rather we made back some money on him than let him go for free.

Maybe they are both right and both wrong.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 15:58:08
QUOTE(Kaney @ May 30 2008, 03:38 PM) [snapback]454054[/snapback]
HAHAHAH, you loser. laugh.gif

Fing heer mait-yer kardz markt
mortonjag 2008-05-30 15:59:27
QUOTE(maccaboy @ May 30 2008, 03:51 PM) [snapback]454063[/snapback]
umm, let's see -

Final 1984/1985 Scottish Premier Table

P HW HD HL HGF HGA AW AD AL AGF AGA Points GD
Aberdeen 36 13 4 1 49 13 14 1 3 40 13 59 +63
Celtic 36 12 3 3 43 12 10 5 3 34 18 52 +47
Dundee Utd 36 13 2 3 47 18 7 5 6 20 15 47 +34
Rangers 36 7 6 5 21 14 6 6 6 26 24 38 +9
St Mirren 36 10 2 6 29 24 7 2 9 22 32 38 -5
Dundee 36 9 3 6 25 19 6 4 8 23 31 37 -2
Hearts 36 6 3 9 21 26 7 2 9 26 38 31 -17
Hibernian 36 5 4 9 23 30 5 3 10 15 31 27 -23
Dumbarton 36 4 4 10 17 29 2 3 13 12 35 19 -35
Morton 36 3 1 14 18 44 2 1 15 11 56 12 -71

Wullie McLean's one and only season saw us win 5 league games, concede 100 goals (a Premier League record for that incarnation of the league), end up with a goal difference of -71 and just 12 points (again, I believe that was the worst ever). AND 7 points behind Dumbarton (!) in second-bottom place.

I rest my case.



I once did that on a water bed.It was quite embarrassing TBH.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 16:00:15
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 30 2008, 03:56 PM) [snapback]454066[/snapback]
And we didn't endure ethnic cleansing, rape, brutality ? blink.gif Culloden aftermath...Highland Clearances...??

Cliff Richard
mortonjag 2008-05-30 16:00:59
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 30 2008, 03:57 PM) [snapback]454068[/snapback]
I work better outside the party wink.gif

doing what?
mortonjag 2008-05-30 17:54:54
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 30 2008, 04:06 PM) [snapback]454076[/snapback]
I don't like the confines of belonging to a political party. wink.gif

Male bloody midwife Spurtle-Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeezo I'd never have guessed




Sister Spurtle at your cervix!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-30 17:56:03
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 30 2008, 04:33 PM) [snapback]454079[/snapback]
Middle aged?

You planning to live to 130? unsure.gif

At the moment 96 will do nicely!
mortonjag 2008-05-30 18:02:05
QUOTE(Edinton @ May 30 2008, 05:03 PM) [snapback]454091[/snapback]
Also, nowt wrong with building a big physical team...certainly as the lack of a physical presence within the team in the last few years has been a common complaint

True, but the thing which let us down even more than that was lack of belief and lack of leadership on the park.

Greggs make plenty of money out of Big Softies! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-30 18:03:22
QUOTE(big B @ May 30 2008, 05:30 PM) [snapback]454096[/snapback]
Change the record, or get another script writer.

unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-30 18:23:04
QUOTE(The Naitch @ May 30 2008, 06:12 PM) [snapback]454111[/snapback]
Got my form through as well. £10 increase isn't too bad either.

CPI inflation figures this month = 3%


£250 x 3% = £7.50

Shoogly wants 4% and you think it's 'not too bad'! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-30 18:24:10
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ May 30 2008, 06:21 PM) [snapback]454116[/snapback]
Interesting comment on the BBC during the Scotland game that Sepp Blatter is to decide whether to limit the number of foreigners in each team to 5 by 2012/2013. I think it's a great idea and one which would benefit the game, in Scotland at least. Bad news for the English Premier League though.

Thoughts?

Can't see it!
mortonjag 2008-05-30 18:36:59
QUOTE(Edinton @ May 30 2008, 04:44 PM) [snapback]454084[/snapback]
Hey, when and how will we be able to buy shares? Is there a minimum number/value required to buy them?

Why were you not at the meeting where you could have asked that question of Shoogly in person-BAWBAG-oh wait-there was nobody from the Board at the meeting-well nobody unless you count JM.

Shoogly may have been on duty at Fort Matilda-holiday weekend-nobody to stir the big Fudgy Wudgy pot I'd guess. Mustn't let pleasure get in the way of business.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 18:42:13 Avtozaz-and a bloody good band name too!
mortonjag 2008-05-30 18:44:09
QUOTE(Bryan @ May 30 2008, 06:42 PM) [snapback]454125[/snapback]
does the sfl agm count as a holiday



Do you have the minutes-did he ask any questions only to be ignored? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-30 18:46:15
QUOTE(leyTON @ May 30 2008, 06:05 PM) [snapback]454107[/snapback]
ill give you a tenner for it

That's what I normally get from port-ton!
mortonjag 2008-05-30 18:53:50
QUOTE(port-ton @ May 29 2008, 05:12 PM) [snapback]453647[/snapback]
Portugal will win it i think, although Croatia are my outside bet, also at 100-1 im thinking of putting a sneaky pound on Niko Krankjar being top scorer.

I just voted for Croatia before I saw your post darling-they have lots of big strong boys in the side.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 18:55:13
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ May 30 2008, 06:52 PM) [snapback]454132[/snapback]
I thought this thread was for older people. I'm only a young guy and I can clearly remember that team. It was only a few years ago. laugh.gif

One Bobby Evans-there's only.........
mortonjag 2008-05-30 19:01:46
QUOTE(Alibi @ May 30 2008, 01:28 PM) [snapback]453990[/snapback]
Name me one Swede who played for Morton. Danes by the shedload and a couple of Finns, but I don't think we have ever had any Swedes in our team, not that I can recall anyway.



We've had several big tumshies.


QUOTE(port-ton @ May 30 2008, 06:58 PM) [snapback]454137[/snapback]
Great minds think alike, and great bodies fit well together.



My arse fits your hand like an oven glove.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 19:17:52
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ May 30 2008, 07:11 PM) [snapback]454142[/snapback]
just ask mentaljag, if he doesn't know then i'm quite sure one of his highly qualified family members will be an expert on the subject.

I was thinking along the lines of Business Gateway, or Inverclyde Enterprise.

Is that O.K. with you pinbrain?

None of the highly qualified members of my family knows anything about business startups in Inverclyde-I just poached that from Marbellaton who obviously does.

There's a lesson in there for you-listen to those who know better instead of mocking them. I doubt if you have the wit to learn much mind you.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 19:27:50
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 30 2008, 07:13 PM) [snapback]454143[/snapback]
trying to have it both ways ohmy.gif

spot the obvious joke laugh.gif

You are becoming more deranged by the day Trumpet, and still never an opinion about Greenock Morton. You remind me of one of my brothers who also claims to be a supporter and uses this web site as his source of information.

Where are we with you and me-I really need to know because port-ton has been biting away about clandestine relationships- I used to quite love you- I hoped one day we could make mad passionate love in a cupboard or the back seat of a Mini Cooper-now all you do is try to hurt me-do you imagine that just because I criticise Dougie Rae I can't be hurt?

mortonjag 2008-05-30 19:30:31
QUOTE(pgmsc @ May 30 2008, 07:14 PM) [snapback]454144[/snapback]
John Collins after Hibs won the CIS cup in 2007

...and before he became assistant manager with Greenock Morton!
mortonjag 2008-05-30 19:38:13
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ May 30 2008, 07:29 PM) [snapback]454151[/snapback]
IMO the most likely explanation is that the McCann's know more than they are letting on.

That's what the Portuguese Police seem to have been working on.
mortonjag 2008-05-30 19:49:18
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ May 30 2008, 07:39 PM) [snapback]454159[/snapback]
Aye, if you use the CPI.

Let's try the RPI

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDI would be more inclined to congratulate Mr Rae if he'd pegged the price to its previous level-that would have shown some commitment to the fans he so disenchanted last season-- if not some sound business sense.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 05:41:34
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 30 2008, 09:02 PM) [snapback]454198[/snapback]
you do realise that if you became a shareholder, you'd have no excuse for not going to shareholder meetings rolleyes.gif

Indeed he'd be a money bawbag-or maybe that should be a baw moneybag.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 05:47:47
QUOTE(suda @ May 30 2008, 09:59 PM) [snapback]454216[/snapback]
Don't you realise there's more people here who think your a t*** than you've persuaded round to your view of Rae (what was it at last count 20 laugh.gif ) just most of them have more of a life than constantly typing nonsense on a keyboard for somebody who has achieved so much in life you certainly have a lot of time to devote to this pish.



You don't happen to own Sudacrem-the nappy rash cream company?
mortonjag 2008-05-31 05:57:08
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ May 30 2008, 07:50 PM) [snapback]454164[/snapback]
You didn't 'merely suggest'. You flat-out put across the increase as a bad deal. You know fine well it is not a bad deal, you just couldn't resist your wee pop-shot at Dougie though couldn't you wink.gif

Did I? I thought I merely quoted some relative figures. People MAY decide for themselves you know! rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ May 30 2008, 08:49 PM) [snapback]454187[/snapback]
Season Ticket sales at Cappielow have been increasing year-on-year at Cappielow since season 2002-03, but don't you let facts get in the way of a good story - you never do. laugh.gif laugh.gif


I'm talking about the sales for this coming season you clown-how do I know they'll be down?

Quite simply because Mortonjag is NEVER wrong.


QUOTE(standman @ May 30 2008, 08:58 PM) [snapback]454193[/snapback]
That's true, I do pay more where I sit.However the fact remains that it's only £40 cheaper than my pal who will enjoy the SPL again next year !


That's correct and the Cappielow stand (much though I love the old lady) must be one of the most cramped and claustrophobic in Britain, and is served by a constantly overqueued pie stall, totally inadequate toilet facilities, and Victorian turnstyles.


QUOTE(LargsTON @ May 30 2008, 10:05 PM) [snapback]454225[/snapback]
Aye, I'd be interested to hear the figures. Could've sworn they were well down last year.


I seem to recall that too.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 06:22:19
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 30 2008, 07:51 PM) [snapback]454166[/snapback]
does he wear a dress too?


I thought you were more of a skirt type.


QUOTE(beermonkey @ May 30 2008, 08:27 PM) [snapback]454180[/snapback]
Claims to be ??

I use this website for info on the club, as well as GMFC website & occasionally the tele website.

living 400 miles from greenock it's difficult to find info on the club from anywhere else so does that mean i can only "claim to be a supporter" as well ?

maybe someone can clear this up, what are the credentials for being a supporter ?


Claims to be my friend, and lives in Wemyss Bay! rolleyes.gif


QUOTE(Stuart Duncan @ May 30 2008, 09:24 PM) [snapback]454206[/snapback]
This reply is not aimed specifically at Midtons, I know Jim well after all I once fired him. dry.gif

But I really believe we have to clear up some misconceptions about the Supporters' Trust. And this is not just for people on this msg board.

We are not the club, a supporters club, travel club or protest group. That is not what we are all about.

If you want learn more about the Greenock Morton Supporters' Society Ltd, to give us our full title there is more than enough reading on our website. One example of that is our input to the Co-Operative Education Trust Scotland (CETS) which we pulled together for distribution to schools. Yes Government organisation come to us and ask for our "assistance".

http://gmst.org.uk/index.php?option=com_co...8&Itemid=80

Yes, we do communicate but the vast majority of our communication is done through our website. We do that for a number of reasons.

1. It cost a packet to post anything these days other than a postcard.

2. With over 500 people registered on our database, apologies to those who like exact figures but believe it or not it does go up as more people are actually joining, it can cost us £140 plus for one mail shot and that's postage alone.

Add in the cost of printing, envelopes, time spent organising this which includes stuffing as many pieces of paper in a single envelope as you can get for 27p and it all adds up. We can easily spend over £200 a time telling our members something they can read on our website. We would rather spend the money elsewhere.
But we still do on occasion write to our members as we a realise not everybody has access to the internet. You might think so, but let me you assure you we have members who do not.

3. The membership fees have stayed static for around 7 years. We have kept it that way on purpose as we know money is not in abundance in Inverclyde.

Any information we have is on our website. We don't keep secrets. We have no secrets. We are a democratic society ,our members control the Trust.
There is only one circumstance in which we do not pass on information and that is when it is given in confidence. We will not break a business confidence, not now not ever. We have the reputation of our organisation to protect.
Therefore don't expect headline news about which player Morton is about to sign rolleyes.gif or how much money they earn. ohmy.gif
If you want that the rumour mill is a better bet than the Supporters' Trust.

There are people on here who spend a lot more money in Tesco's every week than they spend at Cappielow or donate to the Supporters' Trust and are subjected to a lot less loyalty from Sir Terry Leahy. But I suppose there must be a Tescounnofficial.com where they are on every day complaining about Tesco. dry.gif
We have been going now since before 2002 and each year we diligently ask folk to either volunteer or put themselves forward to join the board of the Trust. And each year we get a deafening silence.
We cannot keep this organisation vibrant and forward looking if we don't have a large membership with volunteers willing to give some of their free time to help keep this organisation alive.
We have a Scottish Conference next Saturday in Stirling where the Trust are willing to pay the registration fees and transport for up to three members to the event, no takers.
We can't keep asking the same people year in year out to volunteer. Some of us need a break, we need other people to come forward, people who will uphold the Trust values.

We do not represent Morton fans, we never have.
Jim McColl is not the fans representative on the board at Cappielow. Jim McColl is on the board to represents the second biggest shareholder at Cappielow, The Greenock Morton Supporters' Society Ltd, which in turn is owned by its members who happen to be Morton Supporters. The ones that is who are paid up members of the Supporters' Trust.

We do not p***y foot about with the powers that be at Cappielow. I can assure all our members that our Director at Cappielow looks after the interest of our company . He has a legal obligation to look after our, the Supporters' Trust , interest. We have invested over £120,000 in Greenock Morton Football Club and Jim McColl is there to look after that investment not "p***y foot about".

For all those people who want more of a say in what goes on at Cappielow, the only opportunity your going to get is by making the Supporters' Trust the strongest independent voice at Cappielow. To do that we need to purchase shares, make no mistake that's how you get power. To do that we need a large membership body and as many volunteers as possible.

And to those who say it will never happen and there are many of those also, I know I've spoken to them.
What is the alternative? The singular most stable thing about any football club is it's supporters.
Owners come and go (yes even the benevolent ones), I've seen many good and bad, one in particular, players come and go, again I've seen many good and bad, but with supporters its a lifetime commitment. We don't go anywhere else not to the golf course or the cricket or rugby club

There are those who say that supporters couldn't run a football club, they don't have the skill and knowledge, not so.

Four lower league clubs in England that are owned by their Supporters Trust all got promoted this season.

http://www.supporters-direct.org/news/item...&cat=sd_sco

Not bad for a supporters who can't compete with these smart worldly businessmen.

Rant over sad.gif ...join the Trust , volunteer, and you can make your voice heard and not just on the terracing.





BLOODY HELL-you make Shoogly sound brief!

Correct me if I'm wrong Stuart. For years the Trust has quite happily sailed along in the full knowledge that Jim McColl was perceived as 'the fans' representative on the Board'- a phrase quoted time after time after time.


Now you are saying that he's on the Board in some sort of statutory capacity to represent the second biggest shareholder. The trust is constantly pleading for more investment from fans, but it's blatantly obvious that nobody is currently going to invest in GMFC with a snowballs' chance in hell of making a quick return. It seems perfectly clear to me that the real function of the trust should be to offer some balance of opinion at Boardroom level, and that the raison d'etre of a 'Jim McColl' is to voice 'the opinion' of those fans he represents-it's clearly not to debate the finer points of high finance!

I am confused as to Jim's position-some say the Trust is not entitled to have a representative on the Board-is that correct?

Anyway-back to the main issue-you can go on till you are blue in the face about the Trust being 'a group of investors', but facts are chiels that winna ding, and the fact is that the Trust is SEEN as the fans' voice in the Boardroom.

Not only that, but it is clearly seen as the embodiment of everything that's good and loyal about being a Morton fan, and now you are telling us that its rep on the Board is NOT THERE TO REPRESENT THE FANS.

Talk about shooting yourself in the foot! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-31 06:42:02
QUOTE(stuart @ May 30 2008, 10:16 PM) [snapback]454238[/snapback]
I would be very happy for Mr Rae to shell out the 80 grand or whatever for McGowan, I reckon we could make a profit on him soon enough if we had to.

Best player I've seen at Cappielow since Lindberg, baffled me why some people didn't want Mr Rae to shell out the money for him last close season.



QUOTE(JonaTon @ May 31 2008, 12:54 AM) [snapback]454280[/snapback]
Because it was much more than £80,000 Celtic wanted. I'm sure our highest bid was £150,000 and Celtic wanted more like £250,000. As much as I'd love us to sign him a first division club paying that kind of money for a player in this day and age is lunacy.



I'd like to see the myth that is Gowsa dispersed once and for all. He came to Cappielow on loan because he couldn't cut it at Porkheid. On song he was a thoroughly entertaining lad, but could also be an extremely frustrating player-dubbed as a striker-he more often than not ran about in bonny wee circles, ending up where he started.

Mr Rae appears to have fallen in love with him, and who could blame him-Gowsa could be a breath of fresh air in McInally's 'we have to grind out results' squad of hit and hopers, and that's when all the hype began.

If Gowsa-after another year under the Ginger Cretin Gnome-is still not breaking through, why on earth should we be willing to pay any more than a normal first division fee for an average first division player.

I'd love to see the wee man back at Cappielow. In our beefed up side I believe he could become the great player that's inside him, but only at the right price.

mortonjag 2008-05-31 06:46:05
QUOTE(LargsTON @ May 30 2008, 12:47 AM) [snapback]453850[/snapback]
Couldn't really care less if we win or lose but it does give the opportunity to yell abuse at those rancid cunst for the afternoon.

As a lifetime worshipper of things anatomical, I find that concept disturbing.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 06:53:14
QUOTE(leyTON @ May 30 2008, 08:56 PM) [snapback]454190[/snapback]
this is a serious bid though!

I'm assuming you mean the keyboard-it's certainly making me no money lying in the cupboard. The problem is that I don't live in Inverclyde, so my round trip would cost me a good part of a tenner.

Any suggestions?
mortonjag 2008-05-31 06:56:05
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ May 30 2008, 08:00 PM) [snapback]454169[/snapback]
It happens a lot. It all started when Nacho cracked under pressure and handed his notice in.

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QUOTE(GibbyTON @ May 30 2008, 08:00 PM) [snapback]454170[/snapback]
I concur

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mortonjag 2008-05-31 07:00:33
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 30 2008, 09:24 PM) [snapback]454207[/snapback]
Then I'll dance to your health then, Deo Volente. tongue.gif

Whit's Deo got tae dae wi' it?

Garlic and a good shag every fortnight Mr Bam-ye canny beat it! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-31 07:08:23
QUOTE(TaunTon @ May 30 2008, 08:49 PM) [snapback]454186[/snapback]
No you didn't. The assumption that all Scots were victims of the above is patent nonsense. The gaelic culture is but one small part of Scotland and cannot be seen as representative of the nation as a whole.

Interesting that the name you have chosen was an active participant in ethnic cleansing, murder and brutality directed towards the very highlanders you appear so keen to eulogise.


Claymore c*ck's better and I believe, more accurate.


QUOTE(Tom_McB @ May 30 2008, 09:42 PM) [snapback]454211[/snapback]
Bring it on, one simple question, "Do you wish the formation of an Independent Scotland within 2 years?"


Bawjaws Salmond doesn't want that question. laugh.gif


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QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ May 30 2008, 10:17 PM) [snapback]454239[/snapback]
sorry to be dim, but what was the ethnicity of the people..... left behind?


You made a right arse of that sentence.


QUOTE(Boozehound @ May 31 2008, 01:36 AM) [snapback]454285[/snapback]
f*** all this bickering and idle talk - lets get to war with these c***s. I want my f***ing oil and I want it f***ing cheap!

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mortonjag 2008-05-31 07:18:32
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ May 30 2008, 07:35 PM) [snapback]454154[/snapback]
greenock could use a thai restaurant wink.gif



It could indeed, but I reckon a Thai takeaway is a thoroughly bad idea. At the end of the day it's just another 'Ch*nky carry out'-the competition is already there and folk won't pay 25% extra for what is much nicer cuisine.


Dowsa appears to have all the necessary qualities to make a very successful go of it.

When it comes to catering, nothing beats personal service, and his trump card is his Thai wife.

Just don't call it the 'Knotty Thai'.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 08:28:24
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ May 31 2008, 08:21 AM) [snapback]454305[/snapback]
You chose to quote the figures that would best suite your argument though...I felt I had to correct that tongue.gif

*expects pink botty from fing*

I t wasn't an argument-that's the whole thing-it was just Mortonjag's opinion, and Mortonjag's NEVER wrong.

Fing's the nail gun assassin-he'd never stoop to thrashing little pink botties! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-31 08:30:16
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ May 31 2008, 08:05 AM) [snapback]454303[/snapback]
I would like to see Spartans get it personally.

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I would like Spartans to get in!
mortonjag 2008-05-31 08:35:38
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ May 24 2008, 09:28 AM) [snapback]451546[/snapback]
....I'm here tongue.gif

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QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ May 26 2008, 09:25 AM) [snapback]452201[/snapback]
It is a cracking day, gonna go out a walk methinks.

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Beeen up since five this morning-it's the best time of day in the summer-looks like it's going to be a cracker-might head off to St Andrews.


HEAVENLY SUNSHINE
mortonjag 2008-05-31 08:46:20 What's happening?

It seems ages since we saw a sexy picture with the inevitable variation of 'would you'?

Are the children growing up? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-31 08:48:47
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ May 31 2008, 08:44 AM) [snapback]454309[/snapback]
Ach well, at least I know who to blame when I get shot by a nail!
Oh and picking and choosing figures to get your own idea across....you wouldn't be a politician by any chance? wink.gif

Politics is far too important for politicians young man.

I hope you enjoyed that breakfast-did you count the calories? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-31 08:56:51 ...Prescott-Fat Boy Slim..Terry Waite, and our own Lancashire Piss Pot!

Enjoy.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 08:59:30
QUOTE(The Naitch @ May 31 2008, 08:57 AM) [snapback]454316[/snapback]
If ever a quote had to be bookmarked.... rolleyes.gif laugh.gif



Don't bother wasting your time-and less of your cheek. Your are within (nail) gunshot of my launch pad.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 09:03:07
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ May 31 2008, 08:57 AM) [snapback]454317[/snapback]
Apparently we've offered a good bit more than Dundee...

I actually find that VERY difficult to understand. If true, it just proves that the chairman is-as usual-oot his box.

Davie Irons could get at least two experienced players for that sort of silly money.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 09:05:18
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ May 31 2008, 09:03 AM) [snapback]454321[/snapback]
You need to stop nailing guys 'old man.

It's quite the reverse-young men are fatally attracted to me like moths to a candle flame.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 09:07:14
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ May 31 2008, 09:01 AM) [snapback]454319[/snapback]
I agree with every bit of this. I always stated Jamie Stevenson had the ability to be one of our best players since Lindberg etc. I'm pretty sure Largston mentioned this a few times also. The only thing missing was the attitude to fight it out and make himself the first name on the teamsheet.

I reckon McInally ruined his chance at Morton by constantly playing him out of position and he quite rightly got pissed off. We have a new manager now though. He should have picked himself back up and fought for the chance to become a regular but he stayed in a huff and couldn't be arsed with the effort.

It's a shame, but he wont be missed.


Jamie's still a young man.If DI can't do an Alan Maitland, somebody else will.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 09:52:56
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ May 31 2008, 09:09 AM) [snapback]454325[/snapback]
Yeah yeah.

You see the young boys on here - vulnerable as they are. You realise you have the most posts and try and take them under your wing until they fall for it and yo'ure like a rat up a drainpipe. Shocking behaviour.

Mortonjag , as usual, is misunderstod. Port-ton groomed me for months before I succumbed to his charms-not that I'm complaining, cos he pays me a tenner a shot.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 09:55:18
QUOTE(manchesterton @ May 31 2008, 09:22 AM) [snapback]454332[/snapback]
I have just seen a couple of coppers going into Cappielow!!!! huh.gif

But will the trust be able to keep track of the money?
mortonjag 2008-05-31 10:01:36
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ May 31 2008, 08:54 AM) [snapback]454313[/snapback]
If there's fluff on the muff, they're old enough.


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QUOTE(The Naitch @ May 31 2008, 08:54 AM) [snapback]454314[/snapback]
Why don't you just post one yourself if you're that desperate? rolleyes.gif



I'm not that desperate.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 10:05:14
QUOTE(manchesterton @ May 31 2008, 09:34 AM) [snapback]454335[/snapback]
Puggsy, I remember the trouble at Motherwell the last time we played them (in the cup match) and there was nothing but trouble away from the ground. In fact it took us over an hour to get out of the vicinity and onto the motorway. BUT, my understanding was that the trouble was caused by Hamilton fans coming over and waiting outside until after the game to start the trouble! Unless I was miss-informed. blink.gif

The Craig Thomson casuals are notorious.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 10:15:04
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ May 31 2008, 10:11 AM) [snapback]454346[/snapback]
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Shaven haven.

It depends if there's grass on the wicket, lets play cricket.

If there's no grass, then f*** it, it could have been mowed.

I find the balls don't react the same way.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 10:24:12
QUOTE(manchesterton @ May 31 2008, 10:16 AM) [snapback]454349[/snapback]
Now, now MJ, don't let's start the rumour mill wink.gif

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Well my Mum used to say 'Take care of the coppers, and the pounds will take care of themselves'.

Anyway-two big POLIS seen going into Scapa at this time on a sunny May morning-I reckon somebody's finally done a hit.

CLUB MASCOT FOUND IN POOL OF BLOOD



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mortonjag 2008-05-31 10:27:51
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ May 31 2008, 10:19 AM) [snapback]454350[/snapback]
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...indeed you might as well forget the fancy stuff and settle for a full toss.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 10:49:24
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ May 31 2008, 10:38 AM) [snapback]454356[/snapback]
Mortonjag, behave for christ sake.

Snoopy, tell Mr Patel I said hello. Saturdays in T-Mobile are brutal mate. What time you in to?

I'm being as have as I can-the sun is very bright today.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 10:56:37
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ May 31 2008, 10:47 AM) [snapback]454357[/snapback]
Probably not the best idea to post it on a busy football forum mainly populated by people that live and work in the Inverclyde area.

That's true-Scottish provincial footie fans are into the Thai takeaway business big style.

Mind you I'd still go for the restaurant.

Maybe not the most fashionable situation, but Bow Thai would be nice. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-31 10:59:06
QUOTE(I_run_like_chris_templeman @ May 31 2008, 10:50 AM) [snapback]454360[/snapback]
Mortonjag's got a gammy leg nevermind him.

Yeah Mr Patel was asking for you mate, said to him to come down the pole later when I finish haha !!! Stuck in this pit till 6!!

....and still doesn't run like Chris Templeman.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 11:05:08
QUOTE(I_run_like_chris_templeman @ May 31 2008, 11:01 AM) [snapback]454364[/snapback]
Buying some colegate for Mortonjag, his breath has become increasingly vulgar, and i noticed that over an internet forum IMAGINE what it must be like in person haha !!!

Nahh a dunno mate possibly a few beers or something

Nae use to an edentulate!


Ten bob for a gummy.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 11:14:32
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ May 31 2008, 11:05 AM) [snapback]454368[/snapback]
Watching the skunks playing anyone is better value than gracing the hallowed stadium that is Cappielow Park - NO F'CKING WAY- go and stick your head in a bucket of water young man! laugh.gif laugh.gif



The poster was talking about watching SPL football for a whole season for forty quid more than having to grate your teeth at Rae and his satellites, queuing for life's simple pleasures, and being highly entertained by the May Hughes prancers.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 11:33:08
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ May 31 2008, 11:02 AM) [snapback]454366[/snapback]
I am surprised that an eminently qualified gentleperson such as your good self should buy into the "spy conspiracy". Surely that undermines your constant rants about DDF being an "autocratic hitleresque type dictator". Perhaps you can explain why a man who, in your opinion, does not listen to the fans would employ someone to see what it is he is not listening to? And further, as this is a public messageboard and not a masonic lodge, why not just look yourself? For the record, I am not DDF's spy on this or any other forum. I only state this clearly and unambigiously so that you cannot claim that I did not infact deny this scurrilious accusation. rolleyes.gif


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And as for being an "apparent clown", I am not the guy who talks to a monkey or believes his "fing" is a nail gun hitman. tongue.gif

I'm now more confused than ever. Yesterday I said that 'others' had talked of a 'spy', that the Monkey and I had carefully weighed things up, and that we had decided you would never be bright enough for such a remit. Accordingy, I apologised. mellow.gif

I was happy to discount the notion of 'the resident' spy, until your latest post, in which you protest somewhat vigorously at the very notion, while claiming to know absolutely nothing about it! laugh.gif

I now seriously wonder if indeed Shoogly DOES have a spy, and if perhaps you failed to be short listed for the post. Jealousy is a horrid trait.

You certainly seem very agitated at talk of espionage on the forum.

Or wait-could it be that you ARE still the spy and you are just playing the ass to deflect attention from your wickedly clever subterfuge? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-31 11:47:39 [quote name='Donkey Dave' date='May 31 2008, 11:37 AM' post='454376']
Thank you for you ever informative analysis of what Standman meant. However in my defence I would like to enlist the humour defence in that the Skunks are our bitterest rivals and I think that spending any money on them is wasted. I did include three laughing smiley things to indicate humour but as ever you seemed to have missed that and only pick out the bits that you think you can score cheap points off.


Your English is atrocious-good gracious man, even Shoogly could give you lessons. Have you ever considered night school?


mortonjag 2008-05-31 11:59:07
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ May 31 2008, 11:51 AM) [snapback]454384[/snapback]
You coming out after work?
His grammar can be ignored my old friend, he's belgian.

And he would definately take you up on the offer. laugh.gif

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A Belgian who runs like big Sanny is never a Brussels Smout-anyway-he wouldn't know what ten bob means......

just tell him Mortonjag suq le coq pour un Euro.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 12:02:58
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ May 31 2008, 11:58 AM) [snapback]454386[/snapback]
I am surprised that astonomers have not publicly announced that the earth is losing its orbit - given the amount of spin you put on things that are clearly stated! laugh.gif

Jus wait till shoogly hears this one...... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif



That could be construed as being quite witty.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 12:10:38
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 31 2008, 11:53 AM) [snapback]454385[/snapback]
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nail skewered through his cap , hope Fing has an alibi .





Actually the Monkey and Fing are great admirers of Cappie. Fing's been working very hard recently-there's a big job beckoning and he's trying to stabilise his targets. He'd hate to make an ass of himself.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 12:13:57
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 31 2008, 12:08 PM) [snapback]454391[/snapback]
Aye, you look like a real Scotl laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDI always suspected LCM had an ectopic left nipple.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 12:16:40
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ May 31 2008, 12:07 PM) [snapback]454390[/snapback]
My apologies to the gods of syntax and semantics. rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif tongue.gif

Have you considered night school?
mortonjag 2008-05-31 12:18:28
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ May 31 2008, 12:11 PM) [snapback]454396[/snapback]
Flattery wil get you nowhere...



It wasn't flattery Tail Bearer-I didn't find it witty in the slightest.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 12:31:56
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ May 31 2008, 12:13 PM) [snapback]454398[/snapback]
Knowing young Snoopy as I do, he'd rather spank the monkey. laugh.gif

I can, hand on heart (which is in the right place) tell you I have NEVER spanked the Monkey-I have cut his banana ration, and on one occasion refused to take him to Cappielow, but I stop short at corporal punishment for Munx and Fing.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 12:34:05
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 31 2008, 12:31 PM) [snapback]454404[/snapback]
Hope you are getting your winter coat, gloves and bunnet on. It's 22 degrees out there laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif and it's Scotland's sun tongue.gif

Not the weather for delivering babies then! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-31 12:41:25
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ May 31 2008, 12:27 PM) [snapback]454402[/snapback]
No - have you?


Not really-I'm much too well qualified, though I have tutored some evening class students at the University.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 12:48:16
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ May 31 2008, 12:29 PM) [snapback]454403[/snapback]
I'll be there....fatter than ever!!

Just remembered another victory over Dunoon 3 or so years ago on the grass at the Battery.

Has the astroturf been relayed?



Aye the shuttle's due to land any time.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 12:57:56
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ May 31 2008, 12:39 PM) [snapback]454409[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Probably one of the sickest posts you have ever made, which takes some beating laugh.gif

f***ing quality.

I see Snoopy (I_run_like_chris_templeman) is viewing the thread, should be an interesting reply coming about his homeland soon.

What age is the monkey these days?

He was four on the fourth of this month-Fing isn't quite one and a half but they are both very precocious.

Once in a blue moon their Mum and I go out for the evening, leaving them at home.

She can never relax since the Madeleine McCann business, which is just daft, as Fing's already a dead shot with the nail gun he won at the Church fete last July, and Munx has a very painful bite.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 13:01:11
QUOTE(Colkitto @ May 31 2008, 12:57 PM) [snapback]454416[/snapback]
Wouldn't know how to.... wink.gif

Cliff Richard's just off the 'phone-according to him 'Spurtle's an old Screw'.

Cliff has a way with words.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 13:03:54
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ May 31 2008, 12:45 PM) [snapback]454414[/snapback]
There is still learning needed.

The Royal School of Rossco is a fine establishment within the Inverclyde area.

Is that the one next to the Sheriff Court?
mortonjag 2008-05-31 13:11:55 Sir Merrick Burrell



'Take their clothes off'.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 13:14:22
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ May 31 2008, 01:11 PM) [snapback]454425[/snapback]
I might come along to watch, I've never seen a linen suited, cravat wearing goalkeeper before. smile.gif

He s*** hot with those brown leather brogues.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 13:48:17
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ May 31 2008, 01:42 PM) [snapback]454429[/snapback]
Beside Greenock High.

Is that where Spurtle hangs out?
mortonjag 2008-05-31 14:00:22
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ May 31 2008, 01:30 PM) [snapback]454427[/snapback]
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The sickness continues friend.

Haha, well I have a pet frog, I'm pretty sure Deego had a conversation with him when I was having a jaggy-jobby. He's a sound c***, but his choice of late Dvd infuriates me, what sort of f***ing frog would rather watch Star Wars, than Batman Begins?



It's funny that you should mention frogs. My partner has a soft toy frog called Sybil though he's male.

There's also Tchekey-the wee monkey, Kophee who's also a wee monkey but very placatory, and Sage the green monkey she got with the tea bags. They tend to form a sort of gang in one bedroom, while Animal (the ex Muppet), Flat Eric, Buggs (Bunny), and Ben the giraffe congregate in the other.

I would put a picture of Sybil on for your frog to see, but I can't make it work.

Anyway frogs and their choice of DVD's-I agree they can be a bit outlandish but I believe in letting my children develop at their own pace.

That brings me to toadstools which can vary from tiny specimens to some which are bigger than an actual toad-that is surely gross.

Anyway has your frog been stuffed?
mortonjag 2008-05-31 14:06:02
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ May 30 2008, 10:26 PM) [snapback]454248[/snapback]
i would like to point out that janne lindberg is an ethnic swede.

...as distinct from an organic carrot.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 14:17:17
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ May 31 2008, 02:09 PM) [snapback]454435[/snapback]
Stuffed like a thanksgiving turkey.

Yours?

Sorry for the delay-he's not really mine you see-my partner thinks he's still a virgin, but she's a trusting soul.

I wouldn't be so sure that he hasn't been jumping all over the place-especially with that 'butter wouldn't melt' look!
mortonjag 2008-05-31 16:24:41
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ May 31 2008, 02:47 PM) [snapback]454441[/snapback]
The 'just hopped off a c**k' look on it's face may suggest it's a female frog who has indeed been penetrated. A common factor with a lot of female frogs.


Well please be sure to call one of the tadpoles Shoogly.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 16:27:07
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ May 31 2008, 04:23 PM) [snapback]454453[/snapback]
f*** me, hottest day i can remember for a long time. huh.gif

Mr Pink?
mortonjag 2008-05-31 20:15:50
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ May 31 2008, 06:29 PM) [snapback]454507[/snapback]
Well I wonder how the batches would be made up?

Alphbetical? Well funnily enough we have the same surname!
Section of the stand? Again, we sit together

The only way I can think is that they have invited people in order of good looks and charm and yes, I would be before him in that!!

No sign of a renewal for the Mortonjag seats, and Mortonjag's name comes before Tonsilitis! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-05-31 20:20:27
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ May 31 2008, 05:38 PM) [snapback]454478[/snapback]
..I spotted a couple of porpoises in the Clyde - absolutely fab

Seemed to be enjoying themselves


It's great when you feel there's a porpoise to your life.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 20:42:00
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ May 31 2008, 05:19 PM) [snapback]454473[/snapback]
It's nothing like a chinky. that's like saying Dak is like a chinky too lol. Dak had never seen Chineses food until she arrived here and lets face it, the Chinkies here cater for Scottish people, not Chinese. We'll be making authentic Thai food in a full open plan kitchen where people can see and smell their food being prepared.

The prices for main meals are similar to what would be paid for other types of take-away. Example... Thai special curry which is thinly sliced beef,lamb, chicken, pork and king prawns in rich mild Thai red curry flavoured with coconut milk and lime leaves sells for only £5.50 in my sister-in-laws take-away.
I would be installing a professional Thai chef, Dak will also receive full training in Hartlepool and we have Thai friends in Greenock who would hopefully be able to help.



You completely missed the fact that that's EXACTLY what I meant. Thai restaurants are still thin on the ground even in Glasgow, and they do a roaring trade BECAUSE the food is so different from 'Ch*nky' food. They tend to be a wee bit on the pricey side but folk will always pay for quality and service. The most successful ones employ Thai girls as waitresses, and that in itself is a 'pull' because they add that wee bit of Eastern charm.

I was advising you to avoid the takeaway idea because 'fast food' is hugely competitive and you'll be perceived by a good sector of your potential market as just another 'Ch*nky carry out.

I know it's a bigger outlay, but the first genuine Thai restaurant in Inverclyde is a potential money spinner.

Good luck.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 20:48:56 I still believe that it's highly probable that they came back to find the child dead or dying as a result of some freak accident.

What happened thereafter seems to have been the focus of the Police attention from the word 'go'.

It makes me fume the way the British media have spun the story to portray the Portuguese Police as bumbling fools.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 21:05:43
QUOTE(tolmie perms r bak @ May 31 2008, 08:40 PM) [snapback]454566[/snapback]
i was reading the tele today and see a 16 year old local boy has signed for aberdeen what has happened to the morton scouting system? how many is there in this area that we have missed out on ? ok not every one will be a success,but give them a chance, this boy travels miles every week to play for aberdeen surely if we had a scouting system these players would rather sign for us as they would have a better chance of getting in to the first team , apart from this season as we wont even have a reserve team mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif



Low takes high road

INVERCLYDE football starlet Nicky Low is making his way towards top-flight football, having just signed professional forms with SPL club Aberdeen.

16-year-old Nicky, of Larkfield Road, Gourock, has been turning out for the Pittodrie club’s youth teams for six years, having signed from East End United at the age of 10 when he was spotted at a soccer sevens event.



No further comment required.

I won't even say a bad word about the club and its inexplicably arrogant attitude to those who dare to question its youth policy.
mortonjag 2008-05-31 21:16:02
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ May 31 2008, 09:14 PM) [snapback]454572[/snapback]
Maybe not, I think I read that off Pie and Bovril around the time it happened and like Largston said, he's got the reputation as a big-head.

I could be miles wrong though as it's not exactly the best source.

With a name like that, he's nothing to be big headed about.
mortonjag 2008-06-01 04:12:07
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jun 1 2008, 04:06 AM) [snapback]454675[/snapback]
I was up that way earlier.
Turns out what happens is that the helicopter that is always over the cemetery has decided that the centre circle at Cappielow is the best solution.

Maybe it's those parachutists practising for the unfurling of the Jamie Stevenson Memorial flag.
mortonjag 2008-06-01 04:36:53
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 31 2008, 09:23 PM) [snapback]454574[/snapback]
No they don't Trick, irrespective of their irresponsibility and culpability that's just an evil and vendictive thing to say.


God speaketh.


QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 31 2008, 09:28 PM) [snapback]454580[/snapback]
Yes, nobody is disputing that they were highly irresponsble and must share some of the blame for their daughter's disappearance. I'm sure they're only too aware of that themselves.

I'm not an apologist for the McCanns or what they did that night.

But I'm sorry, to say they deserve the pain and suffering their feeling is just an evil thing to say.


God repeateth himself


QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 31 2008, 09:40 PM) [snapback]454584[/snapback]
FFS Trick do you think we're all 2 years old on here. rolleyes.gif Of course if they were actaully involved in her death that that's a different matter completely. rolleyes.gif

However if, as seems most likely, their daughter was abducted then of course they must bear some responsibility for leaving her unattended, but you'd have to say that in losing their daughter they will have paid an extraordinarily high price for their crime.

So to say they deserve the pain and suffering they must be feeling for the loss of their child makes you either sick, evil or both.


God getteth irritated


QUOTE(Trick37 @ May 31 2008, 09:47 PM) [snapback]454591[/snapback]
Absolutely correct. If she's dead, and if it was because she was abducted, then they're BOTH an accessory before and during the fact.


Man stateth fact


QUOTE(Sanityclause @ May 31 2008, 09:51 PM) [snapback]454597[/snapback]
As a 'responsible' parent - i'm afraid that I have to agree with trick on this one - my sons have been on holiday twoce a year for all their lives with us and we have never ever left them alone in their rooms at night and left the establishment - ever.

What also irks me somewhat is the sad fact that because the McCanns are both professionals that they appear to be above the law - a couple in Glasgow were caught doing the same things the McCanns did i.e. abandon their kids for the night and go and eat, the father was given a 6 month sentence!! - someone explain that to me


Man again stateth fact


QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 31 2008, 10:01 PM) [snapback]454606[/snapback]
I'd like to think I'm also a responsible parent, and we certainly never have left our kids unattended when they were that age. We either ate in or took them with us. But I still find it hard to believe that you think they actually deserve the suffering their going through. They're paying a terrible, terrible price for their irresponsibility, and I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy. In fact, I wouldn't even wish that on Trick. tongue.gif To say they deserve pain and suffering on top of losing their daughter is just evil and vendictive, sorry.

Re your second point, I totally agree. In fact I made the same point months ago and was accused of being a 'class warrier'. rolleyes.gif

The McCanns have certainly been treated differently by the police, media and social services in the UK than an unemployed single parent would have been if they had left their child unattended and a similar fate befell it. But surely that's more a reflection of the country as a whole than the McCanns themselves? Sure they're benefiting from a middle-class bias within the establishment, but they hardly created it, did they?


God appeareth to condescend


QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ May 31 2008, 10:27 PM) [snapback]454625[/snapback]
Actually the question was for Sanityclause.

We've already established you're an evil, vendictive, heidcase. rolleyes.gif


God admitteth defeat
mortonjag 2008-06-01 04:41:06
QUOTE(alexp @ Jun 1 2008, 04:31 AM) [snapback]454680[/snapback]
wouldn't be surprised wink.gif

Trouble is Alex we don't believe in air conditioning in this little country. I'm sitting here-it's 4.40 a.m.on a lovely morning except for the bloody humidity. I think I'll away for a wee run in the car just to cool off.
mortonjag 2008-06-01 04:45:37
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jun 1 2008, 04:17 AM) [snapback]454677[/snapback]
This is a joke.
Snodgrass is a Scotland international at his level, and was a stand out for our team at the u-20 World Cup. That said, Morton fans still think a half-decent wee boy from Celtic is a better player. Get over it folks - Snodgrass is a far superior player to anyone we have or have had for a while, apart from maybe the one guy we are trying to lose to Ayr.

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Very true but McGowan is a MUCH nicer name than SNODGRASS and Shoogly loves his wee Gowsa.

Anyway, Shoogly's skint as everybody knows, and Donkey Dave who's not Shoogly's spy will not confirm.
mortonjag 2008-06-01 04:51:04
QUOTE(alexp @ Jun 1 2008, 04:44 AM) [snapback]454683[/snapback]
good morning. you're up nice and early.

I have a barometer built into my brain-about four a.m. I always seem to sense when it's about to be a glorious day and I just can't lie in bed after that.

It's a good time to log on-most of the others need a beerometer if you ask me! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-01 05:07:43 ALEX SALMOND is bored. Last week he appeared to be going through the motions at first minister's question time, hardly bothering to bat away questions on the Scottish Futures Trust; brushing off Wendy Alexander's questions on class sizes as if it was rather beneath him to be there at all. Gosh, is it that time already? When's lunch?

Labour MSPs have developed an amusing repertoire of facial expressions to register outraged indignation at the first minister's lack of answers. It's like watching a Japanese Kabuki play with 46 characters. And Salmond positively basks in it. He makes a point of speaking directly at the baying mob with a posture that says: Come on, if you think you're hard enough.

Labour have a point, though, that Salmond doesn't answer the questions, (not that any political leader really does). The trouble is - and this may be the SNP's problem, too - that the first minister is very, very good at not answering questions. He is the virtuoso of political evasion.


How much will it cost to cut class sizes and when will it happen? "I refer Wendy Alexander to the clause of the historic concordat signed with Labour local authorities."

How will he pay for the Forth Bridge when he can't issue bonds? "At least this party, unlike the Liberal Democrats, took the decision to build a bridge."

Salmond only really came alive when he was expressing Scotland's "fury" over the cost of fuel when the nation is sitting on North Sea oil. Of course, this is deliberate. Giving downbeat answers to the questions you don't want to answer is one way of discouraging television producers from using them as clips. They will always tend to use the well-crafted and impassioned soundbite, and on the evening bulletins it was Salmond on the fuel crisis that got the airing rather than Salmond saying rather incomprehensible things about the Scottish Futures Trust.

Credit where it is due, though. Thursday was Wendy Alexander's best outing at question time, and she pressed home her point on the government's failure to give any indication about when class sizes will actually fall, how much they will fall by and how much the policy will cost. This won't do. Nor will the vagueness about local authority finance. However, I'm not sure this justifies last week's headlines announcing the SNP's year-long honeymoon with the Scottish voters had finally come to an end on "wobbly Wednesday".

The May opinion polls continue to show growing support for the SNP in UK elections and, according to the Scottish Centre for Social Research, increasing trust in the Scottish government, which is up 20%. The Scottish Parliament has apparently been transformed under Salmond into an institution that commands respect rather than ridicule, with 61% now saying it gives Scotland a stronger voice, compared with 43% in 2006. That should really worry the opposition parties.

Now, I'm not denying for a second there are serious problems with both the SNP's plans to replace public-private partnerships with collective municipal bond issues; or that attempts to raise local income tax centrally may be ultra vires. However, I'm not sure how many voters really care about the alphabet soup of public procurement or the abstruse argument about when a local tax becomes a national tax under the terms of the Scotland Act. Until we actually see schools and hospitals cancelled because the SNP's new Scottish Futures Trust fails to raise the money for them, then the debate about replacing the private finance initiative will be for public finance anoraks.

There may be constitutional problems ahead for local income tax which, under the SNP's current plan, is not local at all. But what the voters are noticing is that their council tax has not gone up this year, that tolls on bridges have gone and that local shops are staying in business because their rates have been reduced.

Of course, they are also noticing that their food and fuel is costing a lot more, but this is not something they seem minded to blame the SNP for. The nationalists believe they can simply hang the blame on Gordon Brown and his fuel duty increases. This ability of the SNP government to turn at will into an SNP opposition is understandably infuriating for the real opposition party in Scotland, Labour. Oppositions are supposed to complain when the economy goes bad, not the government of the day.

If the SNP were the real government of Scotland it would be Alex Salmond having to explain why world food prices are hitting consumers, why petrol is becoming a scarce resource and how the credit crunch is destroying the housing market. And he would have to give answers. But leading a devolved administration means never having to say you're sorry.

Indeed, London provides a get-out-of-jail-free card for the SNP on both the Scottish Futures Trust debacle, and the local income tax bourach.

After all, the essential problem with the SNP's plan to replace PFI with bond issues is that the Scottish executive, unlike local authorities, lacks the constitutional power to issue bonds. In suggesting that local authorities come together to issue collective bonds, Salmond is drawing attention to the Scottish Parliament's deficit in fiscal authority. The finance secretary, John Swinney, has cheekily invited Labour's Calman Commission to look at ways in which the parliament could get the necessary powers to seek an alternative to the discredited PFI.

Similarly with local income tax. There are many problems with the "nat tax", but it seems the least of them is the claim the Scottish executive lacks the powers to introduce it. The Scotland Act clearly assigns responsibility for local authority taxation to Holyrood. True, the Scottish Parliament does not have the power to raise taxes centrally. But this is a detail that can be finessed by adding an element of local discretion. If Westminster appears to be blocking the SNP's plans to scrap the council tax on a constitutional technicality, Alex Salmond will reap the propaganda advantage.

But there is a danger in complacency. Salmond's apparent boredom with these issues, and the casualness with which he dismisses questions, may store up problems for the future. If his ministers begin to take an equally casual attitude to issues of detail then real damage could be done. However, for the moment, and compared to the trouble Gordon Brown is experiencing, it's hard not to conclude that, even in his worst week, Salmond still has a lot to be complacent about.



From today's Sunday Herald.
mortonjag 2008-06-01 05:23:17
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 31 2008, 12:33 PM) [snapback]454406[/snapback]
We are getting side tracked on the real issues and that is the failure of the club to make the strides they should have .

I can take on what SD is saying but like all investors to the club there should be accountability from the club to the Trust in regards to the previous failures in the youth set up .

I know that this may put the Trust at odds with club hierachy but if the club continue to mismanage the potential in vital issues for the future then to simply just handover money in the good faith that they will eventually get things right damages the Trust .

I know I have asked the club questions about when the situation about returning the under 13/14/15 's to full development status . I would have thought it was a reasonable question which the club should have a timescale on future needed improvements . So I don't feel the Trust can be held accountable for the dismissive attitude of the club to its supporters .

I feel the Trust are caught in a rock and a had place asthings like the youth set up much as there probably is frustration about lack of real progress but ultimately would they get the backing from the general support if they decided to implement a protest at whatever level .


The club needs to take more account of supporters but that is not the responsibility of the Trust or MJ's Monkey and Fing Freedom Fighters it is up to every individual to speak out on the issues that concern them and if they don't get satisfaction then they need to look at the possibility of being more proactive to awaken the club that we have more power than just a rep who is or isin't there for supporters .



This appears to be the very nub of the matter Chris, and it's interesting that since Stuart posted his disclaimer, the thread has effectively dried up. Here's what he said-


We do not represent Morton fans, we never have. Jim McColl is not the fans representative on the board at Cappielow. Jim McColl is on the board to represents the second biggest shareholder at Cappielow, The Greenock Morton Supporters' Society Ltd, which in turn is owned by its members who happen to be Morton Supporters. The ones that is who are paid up members of the Supporters' Trust

I'm afraid I don't buy it! I've already said the Trust is full of good guys-in fact I'd not be remotely surprised if every single one of their hearts is in as right a place as Mr Rae's, but HERE is what they claim they want to do.





* To strengthen the bonds between Greenock Morton Football Club and the local community in Inverclyde and the surrounding area and to represent the interests of the local community in the running of Greenock Morton Football Club.



TO REPRESENT THE INTERESTS OF THE LOCAL COMMUNITY IN THE RUNNING OF GREENOCK MORTON FOOTBALL CLUB.


I'm maybe not the sharpest tool in the box, but if that doesn't mean 'to represent the fans at Board level' I'm really losing it.

.......and like it or not, Mr nice guy Jim McColl appears to have dismally failed in that respect.

I fully expect a backlash for daring to make that last comment-GOOD-it'll take the heat off Auld Shoogly for a bit. NOBODY can rightfully accuse that old duffer of not applying himself to the task in hand.
mortonjag 2008-06-01 05:48:26 Ah hoap ye get pished oot yer skull, start banging yer heid aff the wa' tae the rhythm o' yer neebors shaggin', 'n' knock some sense intae yersel.


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Enjoy wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-01 10:33:32 It's great to see such competition for the inevitable third division spot.
mortonjag 2008-06-01 10:40:26
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jun 1 2008, 10:01 AM) [snapback]454714[/snapback]
Having see them both play many times I think McGowan is the better player and I certainly don't think Snodgrass is far superior. If Snodgrass was at Celtic he'd be in the reserves as well. Along with Paul McGowan and guys like Scott Cuthbert who is the Scotland Under-21 captain.

You tell people to 'get over it' with regards to McGowan then hark back to Jamie Stevenson. rolleyes.gif

It boils down to the final product IMO. Snodgrass has scored FAR more goals at first division level that Gowsa could manage lower down. Gowsa of course was not, is not, and never will be a striker. He has a MUCH nicer name than 'Cyril' Snodgrass.

QUOTE(Savo @ Jun 1 2008, 10:24 AM) [snapback]454717[/snapback]
It's been a regular theme since the end of the season.

Livingston's owner 'could not compete' with what Morton offered to Allan McManus.

We offered David Graham more than Hamilton did.

And Derek McInnes could not believe the size of the final offer made to Chris Millar.


And the Scapa turnstyles continue to rust in pieces.
mortonjag 2008-06-01 10:53:47
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jun 1 2008, 08:46 AM) [snapback]454701[/snapback]
chinky is a stupid word. and you're a tool.

Very possibly.


I was giving Dowsa what I believe to be excellent advice based on my experience in the retail market, and on many a discussion with my friend 'James' who runs an extremely successful 'Ch*nky' restaurant in Glasgow's West end.

....so successful, in fact, that his daughter Jenny and her husband have followed in his footsteps with a second 'Manchurian' in Aberdeen.

They are realistic business people, who don't think 'Ch*nky's a stupid word........not for all the tea in China.
mortonjag 2008-06-01 10:58:55
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 1 2008, 09:29 AM) [snapback]454705[/snapback]
Piping in it with kilt, socks, waistcoat and long sleeve shirt on is not recommended.
Nearly fecking passed out!!!

This one's specially for forza, Inverclyde's answer to the pebble.



Piping hot! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-01 11:01:12
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jun 1 2008, 08:55 AM) [snapback]454702[/snapback]
it's fantastic to see porpoises in the river smile.gif

as for basking sharks, i saw a monster about 10 years ago from mcinroy's point. from above u cant see the open mouth so they look like proper badass sharks. the one i seen was f***ing huge!!!! easily 5m long with a massive sinister fin. nothing better than seeing animals in the wild. brings things into a sharp perspective for me



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Try talking to the trees.
mortonjag 2008-06-01 11:04:10 Ah hoap ye get pished oot yer skull, start banging yer heid aff the wa' tae the rhythm o' yer neebors shaggin', 'n' knock some sense intae yersel.


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Enjoy wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-01 11:12:27
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jun 1 2008, 11:07 AM) [snapback]454732[/snapback]
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In 2006/07 McGowan scored 11 league goals and 5 cup goals - 3 of which came against opposition from a higher league (2 v St. Johnstone, 1 v Kilmarnock).

In 2007/08 Snodgrass scored 10 goals. That's the only goals he's scored in the 1st division.

Don't get me wrong here though. I rate Snodgrass, I just prefer McGowan.



I hadn't even checked TBH!

As usual Mortonjag was being a wee bit knotty! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-01 11:14:49
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 1 2008, 11:13 AM) [snapback]454735[/snapback]
would that be your experience buying incontinence pants from the chemist at the end your street? or boring the arse off your local evening times vendor, maybe.



No laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-01 11:17:17
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 1 2008, 11:07 AM) [snapback]454730[/snapback]
my birthday's in november. what are youse on about?

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midTONs was not le chien manque
mortonjag 2008-06-01 11:28:53 There should be nothing whimsical about this decision. Gretna's admission to the SFL was madness and something MUST be learned from that experience.

Potential fan base is ultimately the limiting factor for any football club.
mortonjag 2008-06-01 11:30:50
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 1 2008, 11:28 AM) [snapback]454743[/snapback]
So ? blink.gif

EH? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-01 11:32:41
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 1 2008, 11:18 AM) [snapback]454741[/snapback]
I have always used that word but only as an abbreviation for Chinese food as I would with Chippy instead of chip shop smile.gif

Indeed LL-I think this is forza's 'bad week'!
mortonjag 2008-06-01 11:49:22
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jun 1 2008, 11:37 AM) [snapback]454748[/snapback]
Keeping an eye on things Dave rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2008-06-01 12:03:30
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 1 2008, 11:47 AM) [snapback]454753[/snapback]
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"It frequently happens that applause abates diligence".

Mortonjag.
mortonjag 2008-06-01 12:18:29
QUOTE(cappielow-doc @ Jun 1 2008, 12:03 PM) [snapback]454755[/snapback]
Ghost

Sitting in an office twiddling your thumbs waiting on some wee ned to come in and say"ah want tae join the army cos theyll gie me a gun"does not in my book consist "a full days work" whether in Pishley or not.
Maybe see you on Saturday fella

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mortonjag 2008-06-01 12:20:51
QUOTE(cappielow-doc @ Jun 1 2008, 12:15 PM) [snapback]454760[/snapback]
I'll be 43 on that day,although my birthday is in March!!

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mortonjag 2008-06-01 12:23:42
QUOTE(cappielow-doc @ Jun 1 2008, 12:10 PM) [snapback]454757[/snapback]
If old shooglie could afford £100,000 for Templeman and let him go for hee haw,a couple of quid for Snodgrass shouldnt be outwith the realms of possibility.


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mortonjag 2008-06-01 13:07:03
QUOTE(port-ton @ May 31 2008, 05:15 PM) [snapback]454469[/snapback]
im tempted, but then again ive been tempted before about the promises of hugeness before and been let down badly in the past, i dont think i could suffer the heartache anymore.

His hand fitted my arse like a mitt.
mortonjag 2008-06-01 13:42:29
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 1 2008, 01:39 PM) [snapback]454785[/snapback]
they are fitting them by october so they can be considered rolleyes.gif

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Not like Professor Piehole to spout before checking the facts!
mortonjag 2008-06-01 13:44:47
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 1 2008, 01:33 PM) [snapback]454781[/snapback]
No cause for concern unless helicopters are seen over the cemetery.

Have they been breeding?
mortonjag 2008-06-01 13:52:17
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jun 1 2008, 01:43 PM) [snapback]454789[/snapback]
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Have I missed something here?

Since when did Bawheid become Alex Salmond?

And where is Bawheid nowadays anyway??

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In answer to your last question, he was on briefly a month or so back, but said he was still busy finishing his house and 'large' garden.


'Bawheid' is a name I use for Mr Salmond.

As I explained recently-'Halloween Lantern Heid' is pictorially more accurate, but is rather wordy. In no way is my use of the term meant to be derogatory to our own Bawheid, though I accept there is that distinct danger.

Mr Bam prefers 'Baw Jaws'.


Spurtle the Screw hasn't really commented.
mortonjag 2008-06-01 13:58:10
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 1 2008, 01:52 PM) [snapback]454794[/snapback]
Yes. Yes they have.

Bloody hell-talk about getting an inch and taking a mile. Next they'll be upsides Shoogly in the Rotary Club.
mortonjag 2008-06-01 14:05:32
QUOTE(jpmil @ Jun 1 2008, 01:56 PM) [snapback]454796[/snapback]
There seems to be a never ending deluge of posts from Mortonjag most of which are of a sarcastic, patronising, self promoting, condescending, egotistical in the extreme, spiteful nature but who when questioned will come back with 'you don't recogise my tongue in cheek comments.' I could go on but I think you get my assessment of the the man in question, you know the type more quantity than quality (nearly 20,000 a the last look) but in all honesty it is all your own fault that you have to suffer his constant (and I mean constant) postings.
Set yourselves free, make life and this site a nicer place to visit, put him on your "Block List."
I shall be eternally grateful to Largton for pointing me in the right (no doubt MJ will post that it should be correct) direction.
Viva la libertad!

Correct apart from the 'spiteful' -I'd never be 'spiteful' to a poor dumb creature-the Monkey would never forgive me.

P.S. Fing's just asked for your address, and pointed out you won't be able to read this anyway.

Fing hasn't quite grasped the fact that yourself, the said Donkey, and a few other remaining Shooglyplile creeps wouldn't DARE to publish your identities on this forum. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-01 14:12:32
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jun 1 2008, 01:44 PM) [snapback]454790[/snapback]
Well observed. After all, you are the master at doing that MJ wink.gif laugh.gif

I am the master of everything sonny boy. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-01 14:16:27
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jun 1 2008, 02:02 PM) [snapback]454799[/snapback]
Whenever I see the word 'Bawheid' on this messageboard, I immediately associate it with 'Bawheid' who, along with the his family, are some of the all-time good guys from this messageboard and its predecessors.

Would you prefer me to call Mr Salmond 'Swede Heid'?
mortonjag 2008-06-01 14:18:50
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 1 2008, 02:08 PM) [snapback]454803[/snapback]
I do indeed, I read as much as I can from all political opinions.

Do you think that will eventually broaden your mind?
mortonjag 2008-06-01 14:20:24
QUOTE(se65an @ Jun 1 2008, 01:37 PM) [snapback]454784[/snapback]
MJ, are you on the drink?

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Strong tea! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-01 14:29:08
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 1 2008, 02:21 PM) [snapback]454809[/snapback]
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Aye, and you're certainly a fine example of tolerance and enlightenment. rolleyes.gif

That is true, ----and experience, and wisdom, and bonhomie, and good looks-wish I'd never started-the list of my qualities is endless, and STILL people snipe at me.
mortonjag 2008-06-01 14:40:28
QUOTE(se65an @ Jun 1 2008, 02:31 PM) [snapback]454813[/snapback]
Ah that kinda tea ohmy.gif



I just checked Sean-it's Tetley extra strong and I always put two tea bags in the mug and leave it to infuse for about ten minutes.

I filter my water sleep.gif (Brita filters are arguably the best) and activate it using the (MRET) technique patented by Dr Smirnov.

The Monkey thinks I use PG Tips, and I've no intention of upsetting him.
mortonjag 2008-06-01 14:48:41
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 1 2008, 02:36 PM) [snapback]454815[/snapback]
Self-praise is no recommendation.

Anyway, back on topic. rolleyes.gif

It's ironic that one of the MPs calling for the 'Scots purge' is Kieth Vaz... who if I'm not mistaken is both Asian and an outspoken critic of racism. I wonder how he'd react if Scots MPs were calling for an 'Asian purge'.

Excuse moi-I was merely stating fact!

BTW I can't be bothered reading the article-like almost every other of its ilk it's selling papers on the back of rampant teuchter brain paranoia.

Oh-and see thae Asians.......
mortonjag 2008-06-01 14:52:44
QUOTE(big B @ Jun 1 2008, 02:33 PM) [snapback]454814[/snapback]
I can exclusivley reveal Pat Gillan murdered Cappie The Cat hoping that The Dinosaur would make a comeback next season. He will be appearing at court tomorrow dressed in his said Dinosaur attire.

You've been talking to the physiotherapist-admit it.
mortonjag 2008-06-01 14:56:02
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 1 2008, 02:51 PM) [snapback]454821[/snapback]
Well f*** off then and stop trying to hijack the thread.

Oh dear-you're getting tetchy again-one misplaced word and you'll be accusing me of personal abuse! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-01 14:57:42
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 1 2008, 02:47 PM) [snapback]454819[/snapback]
The unionists are under the misapprehension that this union is one of equals. It's never been a union of equals since it's inception.

Unionists for some reason cannot see this. They seem to think that we are all "british" brothers and sisters, when we all know that's complete bunkum (great word laugh.gif )

I'm going to have the biggest laugh of my life when I see all those unionist MP's coming back over the border after they are told "It's over " laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

I hope you read the article Spurtle! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-01 15:01:09
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 1 2008, 02:51 PM) [snapback]454822[/snapback]
He should be called First Minister or Mr Salmond. Do you have no manners ?

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There's a time and place for manners Spurtle, and it certainly ain't here and now-well not unless you and every other poster addresses me as Your Excellence, Dr Mortonjag. cool.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-01 15:12:10
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ May 31 2008, 09:26 PM) [snapback]454578[/snapback]
Is that the same as just not acknowledging my e-mails
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Good God Chrissiboi-that must be at least a fortnight since you wrote to 'the club'.

I'd double check that it definitely arrived-maybe Donkey Dave could ask. On second thoughts he says he's NOT Shoogly's spy.

It's quite distressing-every time 'the club' has been criticised, the smart arses have come on the forum with 'there's no point in moaning here-WRITE TO 'THE CLUB'.

Seems there's no point in writing to 'the club' though-well NOT if you expect him it to address anything which makes him it uncomfortable.

Maybe you could ask the Trust to pursue it on your behalf.
mortonjag 2008-06-01 15:18:56
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 1 2008, 03:01 PM) [snapback]454828[/snapback]
MJ, if you've got anything to contribute to the thread I'd be genuinely interested to hear it.

But if you're just going to type your usual pish, please f*** off.

I take that as personal abuse my vertically challenged friend-I did not 'type pish'-au contraire, I chose to deliberately ignore the clearly provocative article, while commenting that I believe it is selling papers on the back of nationalist paranoia.


GROW UP! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-01 15:28:51
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 1 2008, 03:02 PM) [snapback]454829[/snapback]
Nope bunkum is merely a so-so word.
Tatterdemallion, now that's a goodie

Misanthrope is Okay Dokay

Latitudinarian is a stonker.

A cornucopia of discombobulation is this forum Mr. Bam.

Do you enjoy this BTW-obviously I can't put the music on here -well I COULD if I was clever with things like that-I find it very restful.




Nymphs and Shepherds

Nymphs and shepherds, come away.
In the groves let's sport and play,
For this is Flora's holiday,
Sacred to ease and happy love,
To dancing, to music and to poetry;
Your flocks may now securely rove
Whilst you express your jollity.
Nymphs and shepherds, come away
mortonjag 2008-06-01 15:48:39
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 1 2008, 03:29 PM) [snapback]454833[/snapback]
The report me to the mods and f*** off.

The article's from the Sunday Times - hardly likely to have been written to pander to 'nationalist paranoia'.

Unless of course you meant English nationalist paranoia.

Oh I don't know-the broadsheets-is it still a broadsheet BTW, are not averse to the odd 'one off' article in an attempt to widen the readership.

Now-to your first comment-I have never, and probably will never report a fellow poster to the Mods.

I was simply using in minute measure, your ad nauseam Modus Operandi ---ACCUSATION.

Lighten up, and stop being so f*cking precious about your precious little thread. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-01 15:58:36
QUOTE(se65an @ Jun 1 2008, 03:35 PM) [snapback]454834[/snapback]
Ah, I thought you meant 'strong tea'.

Had visions of you out picking fresh mushrooms from the fields and boiling them up blink.gif



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The magic mushrooms eh! That brings back some funny memories.

On a more serious note, my Granny used to pick 'sourocks' up the Whin Hill. Thy were tender docken leaves, and were used in salads. She also made nettle soup.

Eating in those days was a necessity!
mortonjag 2008-06-01 16:12:40
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jun 1 2008, 03:55 PM) [snapback]454838[/snapback]
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PMSL @ mortonjag. This guy's a f***ing hoot.

He doesnt want to contribute to the debate, but he wants to get involved in it anyway.

Just confirms my thoughts that this messageboard is no longer about Morton FC, rather than one about a self obsessed retired doctor doing the One-Foot-In-The-Grave routine.

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My contribution to the debate:

Scottish people are predominantly white indigenous Britons therefore it is considered politically correct to discriminate against them. If some of the Scots who were in the cabinet were of Asian origin, then Mr Vaz wouldn't be so keen to discriminate against them for being Scottish.

Keith Vaz is nothing but a Brownfaced Racist, keen to hide behind the CRE when it suits him and keen to decry others as racists when he is capable of dishing out as much himself, as his recent comments have proven.
**quick edit for typo.



That's probably a good summation of 75% of posters at any given time, so you'd be better off with an indwelling catheter young man. You appear to be yet another of the arrogant 'Donga' type young bucks who demands freedom of expression for all except those who upset you!

Perhaps you could join him in another campaign to ban the 'Jag'. Alternatively you could 'live and let live'.

My 'contribution to the debate' was to question the real purpose of the article, while commenting that it was 'pandering to paranoia'.

Nothing stated by others including your goodself-persuades me that I am mistaken.

Sorry to spoil your paranoia party!


mortonjag 2008-06-01 20:04:06
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 1 2008, 07:36 PM) [snapback]454926[/snapback]
Because this is important.

And if your read the article your opinion would not be uninformed.



Because some apparently jumped up little ex pat has DECIDED it's important-an apparenty jumped up little ex pat, who UNLIKE Mortonjag actually believes he is more important than the common 5/8ths.

'Please Miss', you squeak, like a little stuck pig, 'nasty Mortonjag's hi-jacking MY threads again'!

I'll tell you what's important to me-freedom of expression, and freedom of choice.

If I don't like something I attempt to make my point-I certainly never complain about the other person's right to make his-it's to do with mutual respect-that and INDEPENDENCE. If all else fails I may choose to leave the debate.

Sometimes you bore the life out of me with your pig headed determination to keep going when you've long since lost an argument-a pathological obstinacy which often sees you resort ultimately to attempts to ridicule your fellow posters, or simply to bully them into silence with big empty words.

Mortonjag, on the other hand, does not lose arguments.
mortonjag 2008-06-01 20:14:24
QUOTE(se65an @ Jun 1 2008, 04:39 PM) [snapback]454863[/snapback]
Magic mushies, am sure the Council wiped em out in the 90's with some sort of spray.

Never heard of 'sourocks', but I mind my Granny talking about nettle soup.

Even more disgusting was my old man boiling 'clams' down Lunderston Bay.

We went on holiday to Islay when I was about four. We were in a wee rented cottage on Loch Gruinart-no running water, and of course a peat fire. Room and kitchen-Mum Dad, and four weans. I always remember my Dad picking c***les and cooking them over the fire in a bucket. I don't remember enjoying them much, but we definitely ate them!


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mortonjag 2008-06-01 20:19:59
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jun 1 2008, 07:10 PM) [snapback]454906[/snapback]
I think that's the bit you should be highlighting.

Salmond's problem is that it's no fun having a battle of wits with unarmed opponents.

That's what the article said.
mortonjag 2008-06-01 20:26:08
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jun 1 2008, 07:14 PM) [snapback]454910[/snapback]
I'd say I'm argumentative so fair enough. I always try to say something of note, and certainly don't think I could ever be accused of spamming.

But can't see how it can be anyone other than moronjag. This guy just ruins every thread he touches. Had him on ignore for months now but the sheer level of posts and then other people quoting him etc just does my nut in.

Deego contributes a fair amount, but noticed of late the number of non-threads he's started and p1sh that has emminated from his keyboard.

You're a good lad at heart! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-01 20:29:47
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 1 2008, 08:12 PM) [snapback]454950[/snapback]
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You admitted you can't be bothered to even read the article, but yet you decided you knew it was a ploy to pander to the 'nationalist'. Hardly an insightful contribution.

MJ, you are a thoroughly unpleasant individual who's singlehandedly ruined almost every thread on here with your egotistical and inane pish.

Can I ask you one more time, PLEASE f*** OFF.

I could swear we've never met! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-01 20:49:09
QUOTE(Trust Member @ Jun 1 2008, 06:36 PM) [snapback]454895[/snapback]
Since Stuart hasn't yet corrected you yet, let me. The Trust has never claimed that Jim McColl is "[b]the fans representative" on the Board. [/b]This phrase was used by some people (not the Trust) early on when the Trust first had a rep on the board however this led to protests to the Trust by some supporters clubs and other fans that since they were not members of the Trust the Trust should not claim to represent them. The Trust agreed and has avoided ever using this phrase. If you had come to the last Q&A you would have heard him introduced as always as "The Trust's representative on the board" and at Trust meetings as "our representative".
The Trust like most democratic organisations can only ever speak on behalf of its own members.
It does represent Morton fans on the board, but only those who have paid the ten pounds annual membership.

Neither the Trust nor Golden Casket nor any other organisation has a right to have a director on the board. Any shareholder can propose a motion at the AGM to have a person appointed as a director and if it is approved they are appointed for, I think, 3 or 4 years when they must stand down and can be put forward for re-election.
Its up to the Trust as a shareholder who it puts forward.
Its up to the shareholders at the AGM (in effect up to GC as the majority shareholder) whether they are appointed.



QUOTE(Trust Member @ Jun 1 2008, 07:08 PM) [snapback]454904[/snapback]
Memories are short.
The Trust was set up when Morton was in crisis. It took an enormous amount of work from the supporters clubs and others in the Save the Ton group, Stuart Duncan getting the Trust established, and Jim McColl representing the Trust in the negotiations with administrators, lawyers, the Scott family and the businessmen who expressed interest in buying in to Morton (none of whom stayed the course) to save the club.
The community raised massive amounts of money to keep the club going (for which it received not a single share in return) so most of the hard work was done before Douglas Rae put in the money to buy out Scott.
To avoid the supporters and the community being caught cold like they were here, many Trusts including Morton's felt it was essential to get someone in the inside who could watch everything that was happening and be in a position to understand how the club was run, feed this back and if it was ever neccessary blow the whistle if it looked like anything was happening that might endanger the future of the club. This was the start of the push across the UK and now Europe for Trusts and Trust reps on the boards of clubs.
It seems to me that is the key function of the Trust rep.


You may think you have 'corrected me'.

I frankly find it pathetic, but unsurprising, that the minute the Trust comes under the spotlight and legitimate criticisms are made, folk like yourself are knee jerking in defence.

I quoted from the aims of the Trust-NOT paraphrased-cut and pasted, and commented that in my opinion the Trust DOES portray itself as the fans' representative.


TO REPRESENT THE INTERESTS OF THE LOCAL COMMUNITY IN THE RUNNING OF GREENOCK MORTON FOOTBALL CLUB.

I believe it's totally reasonable to suggest that members of the local community who have an interest in Greenock Morton can be described as the 'fans'.

I also believe that the Trust, at this juncture, will gain far more respect by admitting it has failed in the said aims, instead of attempting to bluster its way out of its understandable problems with 'the club'.



mortonjag 2008-06-01 20:54:42
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jun 1 2008, 07:36 PM) [snapback]454925[/snapback]
It's fair to say that Mortonjag is the online poor man's Scotty McClue. He's always right and denies an ything he's said when it's brought back and puts a positive spin on evefything. A total windup mearchant if ever there was one.

Don't you believe in spies Ratarse? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-01 20:57:36
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jun 1 2008, 06:35 PM) [snapback]454894[/snapback]
Nah - very much quality over quantity. Been pretty quiet of late due to the high level of complete sh1te that people shove on here.

Mortonjag has made this board a real struggle to read, but Deego has been creeping up with a good level of total bollocks.



Mortonjag and Deego have a sense of humour Piehole. I guess you know we are lovers.

Jealousy is a horrible trait.
mortonjag 2008-06-01 21:02:07
QUOTE(El gofer @ Jun 1 2008, 08:29 PM) [snapback]454961[/snapback]
Fortunately academic attitude and ability dont come into the equation with the vast majority of footballers.
Nicky has always shown commitment to his football. He also reads a game very well which I know from standing at the side of a park with him during games.


Are you a qualified reader of football Sir? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-01 21:05:47
QUOTE(Trust Member @ Jun 1 2008, 09:02 PM) [snapback]454976[/snapback]
I agree that the Trust could improve in many ways, in particular it could communicate better with its members and potential members about what it is doing. It tends to be reactive waiting for its members to raise things and it should be more proactive, but as Stuart said he and a number of others have been involved for years and need a rest. They need fresh blood and fresh ideas.
None of that detracts from the need to keep their eyes open, eternal vigilance etc. When you have a dictator in charge, no matter how benevolent, with a vast majority of the shares, you are only ever a family crisis, or a business downturn away from disaster. Witness Gretna.
As for the dictators rants, isn't he just a Morton supporter doing what everybody on here does, expressing his opinion, except he has the programme to exercise his freedom of speech in.
I think he made himself and the club look stupid, but as a believer in freedom of speech I think he has the right to express his personal opinion.
He did (almost) apologise which might (almost) be a first.
Wonder why?

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Euphemism of the decade!
mortonjag 2008-06-01 21:17:31
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 1 2008, 09:06 PM) [snapback]454979[/snapback]
Interesting post. I waited for 5 hours to see if any of our Nat friends would spot a racist post.
Shame on them, they did not. mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
Vaz may or may not be a racist, what the fukk does the colour of his skin have to do with anything? sad.gif

See SNP , see racism. dry.gif

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I suspect you are just about to be accused of co hi-jacking the most important thread ever started on this humble rag.

I can't be arsed reading the article, but it does occur to me that those who appear to have made unbearably hurtful and inaccurate comments about the ability of certain Scots, are entitled to voice their opinion.

There again, it may be that they should be told to f*ck off.
mortonjag 2008-06-02 08:10:29
QUOTE(Stuart Duncan @ Jun 2 2008, 12:14 AM) [snapback]455092[/snapback]
BLOODY HELL-you make Shoogly sound brief!

I’m just warming up, but I’ll try and keep my replies as brief as possible.

Correct me if I'm wrong Stuart. For years the Trust has quite happily sailed along in the full knowledge that Jim McColl was perceived as 'the fans' representative on the Board'- a phrase quoted time after time after time.
We have never said we represent all Morton fans. Others have but we have consistently said that we do not. Why would we, there are other fans groups out there who are more than capable of speaking up for themselves

Now you are saying that he's on the Board in some sort of statutory capacity to represent the second biggest shareholder. The trust is constantly pleading for more investment from fans, but it's blatantly obvious that nobody is currently going to invest in GMFC with a snowballs' chance in hell of making a quick return. It seems perfectly clear to me that the real function of the trust should be to offer some balance of opinion at Boardroom level, and that the raison d'etre of a 'Jim McColl' is to voice 'the opinion' of those fans he represents-it's clearly not to debate the finer points of high finance!
The Supporters’ Trust is not out to make a quick return far from we will be the last man standing. They will all come and go but we are here for the duration.


I am confused as to Jim's position-some say the Trust is not entitled to have a representative on the Board-is that correct?
That is correct, technically the same as every other board member.

Anyway-back to the main issue-you can go on till you are blue in the face about the Trust being 'a group of investors', but facts are chiels that winna ding, and the fact is that the Trust is SEEN as the fans' voice in the Boardroom.
The Trust is not a group of investors it is a investor.
All shares the Trust purchases are owned by the Greenock Morton Supporters’
Society Ltd which in turn is owned by its members, not all of whom are Morton fans
One very good reason for us not being the Morton fans representative on the board.


Not only that, but it is clearly seen as the embodiment of everything that's good and loyal about being a Morton fan, and now you are telling us that its rep on the Board is NOT THERE TO REPRESENT THE FANS.
Talk about shooting yourself in the foot!

Wonderful, it may be so but we cannot profess to be something we are not. We have members, shareholders to be precise, in The Greenock Morton Supporters’ Society Ltd. Legally we represent them not every Morton supporter, I wish we did to be honest.

This appears to be the very nub of the matter Chris, and it's interesting that since Stuart posted his disclaimer, the thread has effectively dried up. Here's what he said-
We do not represent Morton fans, we never have. Jim McColl is not the fans representative on the board at Cappielow. Jim McColl is on the board to represents the second biggest shareholder at Cappielow, The Greenock Morton Supporters' Society Ltd, which in turn is owned by its members who happen to be Morton Supporters. The ones that is who are paid up members of the Supporters' Trust

I'm afraid I don't buy it! I've already said the Trust is full of good guys-in fact I'd not be remotely surprised if every single one of their hearts is in as right a place as Mr Rae's, but HERE is what they claim they want to do.

* To strengthen the bonds between Greenock Morton Football Club and the local community in Inverclyde and the surrounding area and to represent the interests of the local community in the running of Greenock Morton Football Club.
TO REPRESENT THE INTERESTS OF THE LOCAL COMMUNITY IN THE RUNNING OF GREENOCK MORTON FOOTBALL CLUB.
I'm maybe not the sharpest tool in the box, but if that doesn't mean 'to represent the fans at Board level' I'm really losing it.

Your losing it! The local community is far bigger than Morton fans. As I said above we have members (shareholders) who are not Morton fans but part of the Inverclyde community. We may not have at present but there is nothing to stop companies joining the Supporters' Trust.
And I know some people don’t like to mention the bad old days but we would much rather be on the inside looking out than on the outside looking in.


.......and like it or not, Mr nice guy Jim McColl appears to have dismally failed in that respect.

That’s a personal opinion I happen to disagree with.

I fully expect a backlash for daring to make that last comment-GOOD-it'll take the heat off Auld Shoogly for a bit. NOBODY can rightfully accuse that old duffer of not applying himself to the task in hand.
Sorry Stuart but surely that's a bit of a contradictory statement. If the Trust is not about the supporters then why call it the supporter's trust? I used to be a member, not a loan note holder - just a member but I feel my reasons not to rejoin have been well vindicated in a number of instances most recently with the lack of protestation at Dougie's "we hate the fans" outbursts. Whether or not the trust represents the fans, its silence as the club's second largest shareholder over the alienation of the club's paying customers was deafening. Perhaps it is ignorance on my part but I can't see any benefits of the trust member on the board. Whilst I cannot disagree that the trust have done a lot of good, there are a lot of areas where I feel they should be challenging the club (merchandising, Rae's rants, etc). And for your information:
No it's not a case of short memories and perhaps exemplifies why I don't bother with the trust when all we hear is about Save the Ton, *careful, or I'll close down the Internet*, etc, etc, etc. Hard times indeed but the club and the support has moved on and there are issues that as the second biggest shareholder I feel the trust should at least be questioning but it appears they don't. It's time to move forward. The benefits I talk of are in recent times. I gave a good example in my post which was conveniently ignored. On a day to day basis, it would be good to know how concerns have been raised at Morton FC board level and how Morton have benefited from having a trust member on the board. This is not a go at the actual member who sits on the board as I think the same could be said regardless and is more of a reflection on the Trust as an organisation. I think some people would wish Save the Ton was still on the go so they had something to do.

If I was a shareholder in an organisation that wasn’t living up to my expectations I would consider three possible actions.

1. I would leave that organisation and forever hold my peace, or;
2. I would continue my membership and turn up at the AGM and question the board of that organisation and ask them why they didn’t do what I expected, or;
3. If I really felt strongly about the organisation I would make an effort to change it so that it reflected my views and concerns properly.


Stuart let me ask you a question as a supporter .

Do you think our youth set up has improved our has been a success when you consider the large donations made by the Trust and others ?

Speaking as a supporter I think the club has lacked a long term strategy for youth since the McGraw days. I believe that part of the reason for that has been the number of managers we have gone through all of whom have had a different idea on what the youth set up should look like. Clear direction and some stability is what’s needed.
It isin't to have a go , just to get an idea of your personal thought

You may think you have 'corrected me'.

I frankly find it pathetic, but unsurprising, that the minute the Trust comes under the spotlight and legitimate criticisms are made, folk like yourself are knee jerking in defence.

I quoted from the aims of the Trust-NOT paraphrased-cut and pasted, and commented that in my opinion the Trust DOES portray itself as the fans' representative.

No it does not and it never has for all the reasons already mentioned. We say it at every opportunity, hopefully this time the message will get across.

TO REPRESENT THE INTERESTS OF THE LOCAL COMMUNITY IN THE RUNNING OF GREENOCK MORTON FOOTBALL CLUB.

I believe it's totally reasonable to suggest that members of the local community who have an interest in Greenock Morton can be described as the 'fans'.

Actually no, we have at least one Rangers fan and many others who are not Morton supporters but are members (shareholders) in the Trust.

I also believe that the Trust, at this juncture, will gain far more respect by admitting it has failed in the said aims, instead of attempting to bluster its way out of its understandable problems with 'the club'.

Not bluster, we have been consistent in our approach since the day we were registered with the FSA. We are a democratic organisation based on one member/shareholder (not one fan) one vote. The Supporters Trust as an organisation have actually been treated the same as any other shareholder. We are just fortunate that we have been allowed, yes allowed, to have a Trust Board member on the Board at Cappielow and I hope that will continue for a long time to come.From small acorns!

Now can I go to my bed


Brevity is indeed the soul of wit! smile.gif


As I stated earlier, it IS utterly pathetic to see the knee jerking defensivenesss of folk who haven't really been attacked!

That sort of reaction always rings alarm bells in my head.

You've gone to uncanny lengths to argue the general from the particular, and your 'get out' is always the same-the Trust doesn't need to/isn't supposed to/ shouldn't have to/ doesn't want to represent the fans at Board level.

The trust has ALWAYS been perceived by the majority of Morton supporters as 'representing the fans, and similary, Jim McColl has always been seen as 'the fans' representative on the Board.

That he and Auld Shoogly share few confidences is evidenced by the former having to ask 'who is Mortonjag'? laugh.gif


Do you think it would be a good idea to close down the Trust in its present form? I ask as a mere fan with no invested interest. After all, the Trust is 'not a group of fans'-indeed it's 'not even a group of shareholders', it is 'A SHAREHOLDER'.

An inanimate shareholder can't possibly identify or empathise with real live fans-I can't argue there.

What about the hundreds of Trust members who disagree with that Stuart?

Did you consider their opinions, and their undying efforts to support 'the club' by raising money to fund projects 'the club' should really be funding himself, before you got wellied into your bed time story?

As I said before, FACTS ARE CHIELS THAT WINNA DING.
mortonjag 2008-06-02 08:27:50
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jun 1 2008, 09:11 PM) [snapback]454981[/snapback]
But MJ says DDF is skint - and he knows things us mere mortals do not. laugh.gif laugh.gif


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QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 1 2008, 11:12 PM) [snapback]455069[/snapback]
Aye? And you know everything, spunk arse?

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mortonjag 2008-06-02 08:38:29
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 1 2008, 10:35 PM) [snapback]455041[/snapback]
I could accept that if they release a statement on what they intend to do in the medium term afterall I bet there is more than myself who would take an interest in whatever the club intend to do in the future .

Since I asked a pertinent qestion on the issue at the Q+A I would have thought I would have got at least a reply saying futures statements would be posted on GMFC.net sad.gif



Maybe you'll still get an answer-I understand they are presently writing individual longhand letters to every season ticket holder except Mortonjag. That takes time even for the deftest of amanuenses.

If somebody offered 'the club' a tremendous deal to take the drudgery out of life's little stationery tasks-which might save-say £10,000 p.a., I imagine 'the club' would grab the opportunity with both hands. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-02 08:41:05
QUOTE(dazed @ Jun 2 2008, 06:51 AM) [snapback]455108[/snapback]
Reported in the rags today that clyde striker Gary Arbuckle is on DI'S radar and may sign for the Ton.
11 goals last season and was top scorer for Clyde. Thoughts?

Winger, full back, and goalie! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-02 08:51:44
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jun 1 2008, 10:08 PM) [snapback]455014[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif

I told you, you're a f***ing hoot.

I'm not going to join any campaign to have you banned, i think youre good amusement value.

Also, this 'young buck' laugh.gif knows you're just on the wind up when you hijack every thread on this messageboard with your self-indulgent waffle, you're just a bit smarter than all other wind-up merchants thats went before you.

I'm not paranoid about anything, apart from New Labour. They're gonna kill us all one day, and you are the assasin in waiting. laugh.gif
laugh.gif laugh.gif

Hilarious.
A cracker becomes a Cracker.

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED
mortonjag 2008-06-02 09:04:55
QUOTE(Morton_T.I.D @ Jun 2 2008, 01:40 AM) [snapback]455105[/snapback]
deego biggrin.gif a reckon hes still gay from when he was in school.

sexuality's usually a lifetime thing!
mortonjag 2008-06-02 09:08:43
QUOTE(The Bewilderedbeast @ Jun 2 2008, 05:12 AM) [snapback]455107[/snapback]
Ah, but what about the guy ejected from the public swimming baths because the capital S had fallen off the logo on his Speedos ohmy.gif

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mortonjag 2008-06-02 09:10:26
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jun 1 2008, 09:46 PM) [snapback]455004[/snapback]
Nice to see that the natives are starting to show tolerance in South Lanarkshire.

Whatever next?

Orangemen giving their children Celtic shirts in deepest Larkhall??

Parents in Carfin sending their weans to 'Flute Practice'??



Croy!
mortonjag 2008-06-02 09:22:02
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jun 2 2008, 09:14 AM) [snapback]455126[/snapback]
Personally I'd make it an offence to wear any OF strip. Anywhere.

It might confuse the refs.
mortonjag 2008-06-02 09:52:05 Right-I think I now have a true grasp of the Trust's function. It's all to do with shares and high finance, and stuff-not, as I had believed, anything remotely connected with the fan in the street.

Fair enough.

Now, gentlemen of the Trust Committee, before you get too immersed in your copies of the FT, here's ONE question you CAN undoubtedly answer.

What's the score with Alistair Donald?

I'd surmise that Jim McColl, (whose sole function on the Board is apparently to oversee the interests of the second biggest shareholder) MUST be privy to Mr Donald's plans (or lack of them).

It's not that I feel the ordinary fans are entitled to know anything. The paying customer is clearly secondary to those anonymous and wealthy investors who are only in it for the dividends, giving not a fig it seems, for the club.

Indeed only Shoogly's benevolence, and naughty old cupiditas appear to be driving Greenock Morton on to such dizzy heights.

So, gentlemen, what's the script?
mortonjag 2008-06-02 09:59:52
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jun 2 2008, 09:53 AM) [snapback]455142[/snapback]
a guy in my class all the way through school called Michael Paton plays for aberdeen. he signed for them when he was about 12/13 i think. hes 19 now and he was on loan at brechin last season, scored a couple of goals with them aswell biggrin.gif

Seems Shoogly's being sold short by sheep shagging shysters.
mortonjag 2008-06-02 10:02:09
QUOTE(Trust Member @ Jun 2 2008, 09:59 AM) [snapback]455145[/snapback]
It does to me.
Didn't expect to see you back just yet.
Not sure what you are doing will work.
Good Luck.



p.m. for this pish! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-02 10:10:17
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jun 2 2008, 09:43 AM) [snapback]455135[/snapback]
A guy went into the army surplus store and said ''do you have any camouflage jackets'' ? and the owner said ''yes but I can't find them''



The trouble with places like that is that there is absolutely no stock organisation.

Many of the Asian cash and Carry Warehouses in Tradeston have a similar problem, though they appear to make quite a lot of money.
mortonjag 2008-06-02 10:14:26
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jun 1 2008, 10:49 PM) [snapback]455056[/snapback]
Doesn't matter if it's the real stone. It's a symbol.

The World Cup is not the real World Cup as the original is missing, believed destroyed, but the World Cup as a tournament does not become devalued.



I think Celtic will probably win the Stone of Destiny next time though many claim they're Irish.
mortonjag 2008-06-02 10:19:46
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jun 2 2008, 10:14 AM) [snapback]455150[/snapback]
I would be horrified if we signed Gary Arbuckle.

Has he been released or would he cost money AND wages.

The 'small squad of quality players' story is beginning to sound reminiscent of previous closed season spins.
mortonjag 2008-06-02 10:39:21
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jun 2 2008, 10:26 AM) [snapback]455156[/snapback]
He was released by a side which finished below us huh.gif

This better just be paper talk.



Digressing, does Allan McManus' contract with St Johnstone end this week?
mortonjag 2008-06-02 10:52:00
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Jun 2 2008, 10:50 AM) [snapback]455164[/snapback]
This has to be a wind-up. Seems very fast but thats all, a truely horrific player.

Clyde fans were delighted when he was released. This would worry me.

What does Kermit think?
mortonjag 2008-06-02 11:04:16
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 2 2008, 11:01 AM) [snapback]455172[/snapback]
Go to the next Q and A and ask wink.gif

Will Alistair Donald be chairing it?
mortonjag 2008-06-02 11:07:04
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 2 2008, 10:56 AM) [snapback]455169[/snapback]
Are you serious? blink.gif
You can't honestly think of this forum as being overly positive, can you?




WAKEY WAKEY
mortonjag 2008-06-02 11:13:51
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 2 2008, 11:00 AM) [snapback]455171[/snapback]
Davie I was delighted when Irons took over and was impressed with the difference he made to the team in the short time he had to save us from the play-offs but I must admit I'm rather worried with his signings so far (bar 1) and those he has us linked with.



I didn't want to be first to come out with that Jim. DI/DC got Rae off the hook, with things coming good just in time. They've obviously got it in the motivational department, and I'm not disappointed that we've got a goalie, and (possibly) an experienced defender. Other than that it's glaringly obvious that Shoogly's skint.

How long will it be before we get a repeat of last years-'The club won't be bullied into signings'.

That was indeed prophetic!!! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-02 11:24:43
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 2 2008, 11:17 AM) [snapback]455178[/snapback]
Only one way to find out tongue.gif

PRECISELY-that was the reason for the question, but I guess they're all far too busy at their computers in the Stock Market right now.

It's a tad puzzling mind-they said lots and lots of stuff about the Trust being the second biggest shareholder, and being f*ck all to to with the fans, and I have to say they REALLY seemed to know what they were talking about when it came to high finance. I expected a quick and informed response.

Do you think maybe they DO know the answer and Shoogly has asked them to keep quiet?
mortonjag 2008-06-02 11:29:21
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 2 2008, 11:23 AM) [snapback]455179[/snapback]
Do you really have the knees for it? :boak

I thought that sort of stuff was below your dignity! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-02 11:36:41
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Jun 2 2008, 11:30 AM) [snapback]455184[/snapback]
Trust Forum for this pish smile.gif

EH-can you not bloody well read?

The trust does not represent the fans!

I don't want to know any more about the Trust today thanks-I merely asked while they were still visiting the fans' rag. Maybe I've missed them already.

mortonjag 2008-06-02 11:41:44
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Jun 2 2008, 11:24 AM) [snapback]455180[/snapback]
You would know.

I take it you think you're straight! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-02 11:43:43
QUOTE(jimmy boag delivers @ Jun 2 2008, 11:35 AM) [snapback]455185[/snapback]
s***e is an anagram of heist.

Just incase you hadn't thought about it.

Not on this bloody board apparently! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-02 11:48:29
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 2 2008, 11:42 AM) [snapback]455188[/snapback]
Where did you get that from?




Sorry nach0-there's no Smiley for a tongue half way through a cheek. FFS If that's all going over your head, I'll maybe have to simplify it.

Did you perchance read all the keech from the Trust Reps? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-02 15:09:26
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 2 2008, 01:40 PM) [snapback]455235[/snapback]
thought you were a member rolleyes.gif


I am not a member at the moment. A close relative is still a member with a significant investment.


QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Jun 2 2008, 01:52 PM) [snapback]455240[/snapback]
And Rae knows who you are? I thought you didn't show up last time you could have made yourself known?



What a stupid and illogical comment!
mortonjag 2008-06-02 15:52:49
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 2 2008, 02:44 PM) [snapback]455273[/snapback]
Bryan this question has caught my attention, as a trust member can I request that our representative on the board enquires to exactly what Mr Donald's intentions are with being on the Morton board, does he plan to invest money or maybe even buy the present owners out.

Thanks for that Jim-I have family members who could have done exactly the same. My thread had about a hundred views and many replies until it was moved to this 'MORE APPROPRIATE' backwater. dry.gif

I've shared p.m.'s with the Mods and a couple of interested posters, and I would like to know why an attempt has apparently been made to keep the question out of the 'public' eye.

It would absolutely astound me to be told that certain members of the Trust have no idea why Alistair Donald's on the Board.

It may surprise some folk Jim, but I regularly share p.m.'s with over twenty posters, quite a few of whom have 'clout' in different walks of life, but who prefer to let me do the talking. I'm getting slightly weary of all the personal abuse every time I rock the boat. I expect closed shop stuff from the Chairman-NOT from the Trust.

mortonjag 2008-06-02 16:12:45
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 2 2008, 11:52 AM) [snapback]455196[/snapback]
Of course I did, which is why I'm disappointed (but not the least bit surprised) that you're misrepresenting them.

In what way am I misrepresenting them, and why are you 'not surprised'.

Thank f*ck you're no longer a Mod Nach0. I'm getting weary of daft wee boys like yourself trying to undermine me when I'm on something I know about, and I resent your regular wee snide digs. If I say something wrong, correct it. Otherwise keep quiet.

Your gripe is with me-it's personal, and it's pointless. I'm only interested in the viability of Greenok Morton.

Stuart Duncan's use of spin was almost unbelievable-I'd go as far as to say unforgivable. I merely followed his line of 'logic' about the Trust being 'a shareholder', and having bugger all to do with the fans.

mortonjag 2008-06-02 16:36:35
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 2 2008, 04:21 PM) [snapback]455321[/snapback]
Please stop the personal attacks sad.gif

Bryan's already corrected what you got wrong: those involved in the trust aren't on the lookout for dividends. For you to state otherwise is incorrect. I don't think my asking where you got that impression from was a "wee snide dig". I assume that sort of well-honed, woe-is-me complex comes with age.
On some level, maybe. You're interested primarily in self-aggrandisement.
If the Trust claimed to represent all fans it would be incorrect to do so, and I imagine that some fans - such as, oh, let's say, you - might take umbrage if they claimed to speak on your behalf.


You'd have been as well saying 'Shut up because I don't like what you're saying'. That's all it amounts to, and in no way was I 'attacking you'-what I said is what I sincerely believe.

You clearly have 'a guid conceit o'yersel'. There's no harm in that per se- just remember 'You can't put an old head on young shoulders'.

You are one of only a small remaining number of intelligent posters who choose to misunderstand me and my motives. As I've already stated I'm in regular contact with many others who initially resented my very existence just as you do. They are now content to let me do much of the spadework.

They will recognise your comment about my being 'primarily interested in self aggrandisement' as a very palpable example of personal abuse, if not so glaring as my daring to tell somebody less than half my age to grow up.
mortonjag 2008-06-02 16:48:46
QUOTE(tontastic @ Jun 2 2008, 04:31 PM) [snapback]455325[/snapback]
To clarify, I moved the thread. Its not as if someone is going to complain when a thread directly relating to the GMST is moved to say the GMST forum.

I am complaining as you very well know. The thread had almost a hundred views until you moved it 'without trace'. Since then it has gone virtually unnoticed. I've asked you to re-instate it to where it was correctly started-a question placed by a FAN-not a Trust member-on the fan's forum for the general interest of the fans. We've been told the Trust doesn't represent the fans. Are you telling me it's composed of non fans? mellow.gif

It is utterly ludicrous to suggest that the Trust Forum is a more appropriate place, given the MONSTROUS input by Trust members to the general forum in the last couple of days.

Bryan had asked me to point out that he had not moved the thread-truth is I never for one minute had any doubt it was you.

I don't know what your real motives were, but one thing's for sure-you DIDN'T WANT IT OUT IN THE OPEN. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-02 16:55:30
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 2 2008, 04:46 PM) [snapback]455338[/snapback]
And the two are mutually exclusive because...?

blah blah blah
The idea that you act as the sole guarantor of all things Morton, and you're the only one willing to see the truth and really care, is a self-aggrandising one. The fact that you constantly trumpet yourself as the voice for the voiceless is a blatant example of self-aggrandisement. Morton comes second: you come first.

For the record, I'd also very much like to know what Alistair Donald's intentions are. But here's the thing: I know there are more effective ways of finding out than the one you're employing right now.

Are you going to answer my question now that we've got the pleasantries out of the way? From where or who did you get the idea that the Trust was in it for dividends?

Something contradictory there. unsure.gif

I answered your question the first time it was put. If you are too thick to understand my comment about the Smiley so be it. Nothing you've said or can say alters the truth nach0, and I regard your comments as personal abuse and ask you to stop now please. sad.gif

mortonjag 2008-06-02 16:58:31
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 2 2008, 04:55 PM) [snapback]455343[/snapback]
I'm sure most people on here use the "view new posts" option rather than trawl through the individual sb-sections. In all honesty I didn't even notice it had been moved, yet I still am here.

The number of views prior to the thread being moved versus that subsequent clearly demonstrates that you are probably mistaken.

Just another anti Jag post Puggs-don't mind the banter, but this is daft.
mortonjag 2008-06-02 17:30:00
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 2 2008, 05:01 PM) [snapback]455348[/snapback]
Namely?
You're going to need to explain to me which parts of your original post were tongue-in-cheek and which weren't.

Because if you want to extend the tongue-in-cheek thing a little bit further it's almost as if the whole thing was written not out of any real curiousity as to the status of Alistair Donald but rather as a showcase for your own posting talents.



Cheap, nasty, inaccurate, and perish the thought that I've lowered myself to the cliche, but the epitome of pot, kettle, and blackness.

It really saddens me that a graduate of my alma mater is apparently unable to interpret my posts objectively.

Too much politics and too little science-eh! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-02 17:32:33
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 2 2008, 05:15 PM) [snapback]455354[/snapback]
Well if people don't use it they should, and I suspect most do.

Not an anti-jag post, could have done that easier...I generally feel most people would not have noticed the switch.

That's the problem when you imagine everybody else thinks in the same way as yourself. We all do it in greater or smaller measure Puggs. The fact is that the thread has died a death, and I believe that was the intention when it was moved without any form of link.
mortonjag 2008-06-02 17:57:41
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 2 2008, 05:53 PM) [snapback]455370[/snapback]
Thanks for answering my question but since you clearly agree that we have failed or should that be the club to make enough progress isin't there a question as to whether the donations made by the Trust and commitment from other areas of fundraising is getting the same level of focus by the club .

I know Derek Collins seems to be genuine in his strive for change and I think he and Davie Irons hinted that the organisation eventually needs some independance so continuity is maintained at all times .

However no one can be certain the leangth of tenure a management team will have so we as a collective must ensure that whatever improvements are made that we build on them .

I don't think it is just due to a high turnover of coaches but that also shows poor decision making and if the chairman cannot find the right man is it any wonder our youth set up is so highly criticised .



Prepare to have your post censored moved to the trust forum without explanation!
mortonjag 2008-06-02 18:18:31
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 2 2008, 06:08 PM) [snapback]455376[/snapback]
Ok it hasn't moved yet so I will give everyone a heads up.

If you use the 'view new posts' option at the top then the thread will still show up even if it has moved rather than giving the appearance of it being completely taken off the board.
smile.gif

That is the operative phrase. In the past posts have shown as 'closed' or 'moved to'. The 'appearance' of having been removed certainly fooled me-NOT that I'm a regular poster or very bright for that matter. laugh.gif

I regard the moving of my question about Alistair Donald as censorship-plain and simple-wouldn't mind at all if the post was re-instated to the point of transfer with the appropriate link.

Anything wrong with that?
mortonjag 2008-06-02 18:32:58 I often rue the absence of the original 'main forum'.

Mortonjag's motives regarding Mr Mileson were being questioned years ago by the same clowns who are calling him a liar today.

Am I saying 'I told you so and you wouldn't listen'?

F*ckin' right I am.

I also correctly called the behaviour of the Administrator from day one-plenty of abuse for that too.

This post, like every post I have ever made is in the interest of self aggrandisement.

I regard self aggrandisement on a wee unofficial fans' messageboard as the pinnacle of my life's achievements.

That must surely make me a very sad old man indeed. sad.gif


Feel free to comment cool.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-02 18:36:00
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 2 2008, 06:24 PM) [snapback]455383[/snapback]
Alistair Donald will soon recieve the same status as *careful, or I'll close down the Internet* laugh.gif

Ah well it will keeps Dougie's spy on his toes

Hooves? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-02 18:38:07
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Jun 2 2008, 02:18 PM) [snapback]455250[/snapback]
Still nothing in...

Mind you im not really too bothered as i'll be popping in and signing up for the direct debit as is done every season, 20 odd bucks per month is not bad, i don't even notice it and that's when Morton actually take money out of my account which they fail to do sometimes haha!

I never thought you'd succeed in making me titter! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-02 18:40:11
QUOTE(Andy M @ Jun 2 2008, 03:51 PM) [snapback]455304[/snapback]
As stated on a previous thread, the information regarding last week's EGM at Cappilow contains some exciting news. Details can be found by clicking HERE

Trust thread for this pish!
mortonjag 2008-06-02 18:47:45
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 2 2008, 12:27 PM) [snapback]455205[/snapback]
Oh absolutely, it's pom-pom city on here. Cheerleaders a-go-go.

There is very little genuine footballing debate, more a serious of statements generally backing what the "management" do. Anyone who disagrees is labelled a "boo-boy". Personally I thought Irons' appointment was a terrible decision and still do but he kept us up when we were almost certainly going down so maybe he's got something. I remain to be convinced and my gut says he'll not last 2 seasons. But hey-ho, opinions are like arseholes- everyone's got one.

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Thank you for bringing tears to my eyes Mr McArthur-like myself you often talk a power of p1sh, but you sometimes hit it right on the button! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-02 18:50:33
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 2 2008, 06:46 PM) [snapback]455393[/snapback]
All the best to yourself and the other creditors.

Our thoughts are with the families at this sad time.
mortonjag 2008-06-02 18:54:27 As the title says! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-02 18:57:52
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jun 2 2008, 06:14 PM) [snapback]455378[/snapback]
Indeed - although I am a bit surprised that moronjag hasn't become a run away leader here but know I am on here as I generally make a few points and look to stir up some debate.

Certainly don't post total spammers of threads or say hi to my mates in a public forum. And any post consisting of only a smilley should be automatically deleted.

As for the ignore facility - I have MJ on it as I hated myself for getting dragged into his innane drivell. Have bawheid on it as well as his level of p1sh being spouted was at one point unberable - fortunately he doesn't seem to be about much now.

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What's really getting on moronjag's tits is the fact that he tries to be annoying and you're almost keeping up with him! mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-02 19:01:15
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 2 2008, 06:56 PM) [snapback]455401[/snapback]
It's South Lanarkshire, the land that the enlightenment forgot. wink.gif
:lol
Croy is North Lanarkshire MJ.

Lanarkshire is a strange place, Ghetto towns, bead rattlers in Croy & Coatbridge, Flute tooters in Airdire and Larkhall. blink.gif

Makes Pishley seem like a reasonable toon.

Well aware of it Mr Bam-I just felt the Carfin thing was to do with the Grotto rather than its penchant for 'bead rattling'.

Croy-now that's a different story! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-02 19:08:05
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 2 2008, 04:49 PM) [snapback]455340[/snapback]
Dear Ms Lee



Thank you for your email.



I wonder if in fact you read what I said rather than what the Sunday Times has said. My quotation in quotation marks calls for the appointment of a Deputy Prime Minister and my suggestion is Jack Straw. I have never called for this to be held by an “English” person. I have never called for the purging of anyone in fact if you read my quote I state quite clearly that I do not see the need for a reshuffle. Indeed I strongly support the Prime Minister and he is Scottish!



With Best wishes



Keith Vaz





Whom to believe Mrs Lee-Mr Vaz or the little chap who started this important thread.

He seems to have disappeared. I sincerely hope he hasn't fallen off his high chair or anything awful like that-the little chap I mean-not the man with the brown face.
mortonjag 2008-06-02 19:12:19
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 2 2008, 11:43 AM) [snapback]455189[/snapback]
Is this the "Pure Dead Brilliant" slogan? The woman who apparently devised the slogan, is now a senior executive in West Dunbartonshire council. She is very proud of it and sees it as one of her crowning achievements (allegedly)... cream does rise to the top! blink.gif


Is this your bad week HT? tongue.gif


QUOTE(piehutt @ Jun 2 2008, 06:25 PM) [snapback]455384[/snapback]
I've always considered myself republican minded, but I think if we had a proper Scottish monarch, who was just the king of Scotland and stayed in Scotland all the time I'd be happy with that.

But if we became independent and retained our status in the commonwealth then i couldn't give two hoots about the Queen.

Constituntially speaking there can be very little differnece that effects the running of the country between a monarchy and a republic these days. In fact many republics feel they need some kind of other figurehead as the president ends up with too much ceremonial work to do.


Why do the posts always sound like a draft of an essay for the O level English re-sit?
mortonjag 2008-06-02 19:18:57
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 2 2008, 04:05 PM) [snapback]455310[/snapback]
I dont disagree that Arbuckle is a poor target for us.

This is the post I disagreed with

Or are you saying I should wake up to the fact that this is actually positive message board? unsure.gif

Not like you to misrepresent someone rolleyes.gif

That's quite true!

I was thinking of Mr McArthur's comments and WAKEY!

QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Jun 2 2008, 05:54 PM) [snapback]455371[/snapback]
Also worried. It's a signing he'd have fully expected McInally to make.

After last season I'm very confident in Davie Irons but I seriously hope there are more players to come in.

The Monkey agrees with Kermit. Fing says it's not Mr Irons fault if he's got no money.
mortonjag 2008-06-02 19:33:03
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 2 2008, 06:49 PM) [snapback]455396[/snapback]
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thanks for your ASSistance .


It was BRAYve of you to mention Shoogly's spy again. Keep a close eye on your post it could disappear with neigh explanation.
mortonjag 2008-06-02 19:37:10
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 2 2008, 07:33 PM) [snapback]455410[/snapback]
I was surprised Mr Vaz replied so quickly. (So un- male like)

Now now do not discriminate against the Vertically challenged, Mr Jag rolleyes.gif

Wood eye?


Talking of males females and the MP in question, there's a VAS deferens!
mortonjag 2008-06-02 19:39:16
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jun 2 2008, 07:37 PM) [snapback]455413[/snapback]
MortonJag is wonderful and if he were chocolate he'd eat himself. wink.gif
Ps. Lets not hijack this thread with your own agenda, theres a good pensioner. tongue.gif
Oh, and i almost forgot....

Alibi laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif




Mortonjag said that first.



Alibi is not a pensioner-bet he wishes he was! laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-02 19:50:13
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 2 2008, 07:42 PM) [snapback]455416[/snapback]
MJ your constant mockery of my disability is become increasingly tedious and offensive.

Please stop.

Not half as tedious as your constantly telling me to f*ck off for daring to call your precious thread in question.

Furthermore it seems that I may JUST have made a valid point.



The truth is that you selectively become offended-many other posters poke fun at you-AS I DO-yet you choose to pull out the disability badge when it suits your devious purposes.

Grow up.
mortonjag 2008-06-02 20:32:35
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jun 2 2008, 07:50 PM) [snapback]455421[/snapback]
Has anyone else noticed how Tom McB isn't getting on his moral high-horse over Mortonjags jibes about your heightist abuse. CHC, i bet you wish you were Asian, as then you could rely on that sanctimonious t*** for hauners against Resident Loonball.

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Discrimination against mental ilness will not be tolerated. wink.gif

QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 2 2008, 07:54 PM) [snapback]455424[/snapback]
Being told to grow up from a pensioner who publicly ridicules someone's disability really does take the biscuit. laugh.gif


Ageism will not be tolerated either, especially from somebody who in the past has publicly mocked my disability, despite my belief that I had answered a sincere question in confidence.

You described me earlier in the thread in 'glowing terms'-those were also offensive and INTENDED TO OFFEND.

I have never publicly ridiculed anybody's disability, nor will I.

If, however, you are deliberately offensive and disrespectful of me, I'd suggest that poking a little jibe back can hardly be construed as publicly mocking you.

Furthermore I DO apologise if you have been offended-I'm not a hurtful person-NOR AM I made of steel.

Did that ever occur to you?
mortonjag 2008-06-02 20:37:58
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 2 2008, 07:53 PM) [snapback]455423[/snapback]
...why is Thornton not on the list actually? ohmy.gif

Because nobody wants him to win anything.
mortonjag 2008-06-02 20:40:43
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jun 2 2008, 07:46 PM) [snapback]455419[/snapback]
Nope, he'll be wishing Annan get elected to the SFL so he can offer them his consulting services to build a dinky wee stand with corrugated iron roof and a few hundred plastic seats, whilst invoicing them £90k for his sycophancy in their hospitality box.

You are awful!
mortonjag 2008-06-02 21:12:47
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jun 2 2008, 08:42 PM) [snapback]455446[/snapback]
Maybe deego didn't want to risk being corrected if the smallest detail in the setting up of his poll was inaccurate.

JEEEEsus-you DO want to win! huh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-02 21:16:49
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 2 2008, 07:51 PM) [snapback]455422[/snapback]
Are you trying to stirrup some trouble ?

misuse of power makes me bridle but we're saddled with the status quo
mortonjag 2008-06-02 22:20:55
QUOTE(Stuart Duncan @ Jun 2 2008, 10:06 PM) [snapback]455481[/snapback]
Brevity is indeed the soul of wit!

As I stated earlier, it IS utterly pathetic to see the knee jerking defensivenesss of folk who haven't really been attacked!
That sort of reaction always rings alarm bells in my head.
You've gone to uncanny lengths to argue the general from the particular, and your 'get out' is always the same-the Trust doesn't need to/isn't supposed to/ shouldn't have to/ doesn't want to represent the fans at Board level.

Correction, we would be more than happy to represent the fans at Board level, all they need to do is become shareholders (members) of the Greenock Morton Supporters' Society Ltd. When the majority do we can claim to represent the majority of Morton fans. We don't have a hidden agenda, if our shareholders/members are unhappy they have every opportunity to express that and unlike some organisation have the ability to do something about it.

The trust has ALWAYS been perceived by the majority of Morton supporters as 'representing the fans, and similary, Jim McColl has always been seen as 'the fans' representative on the Board.

I'm sure its never been perceived that way by the Supporters Clubs, one of which I'm a member, whom I'm sure would take a different attitude and quite rightly so.

That he and Auld Shoogly share few confidences is evidenced by the former having to ask 'who is Mortonjag'?
Do you think it would be a good idea to close down the Trust in its present form? I ask as a mere fan with no invested interest. After all, the Trust is 'not a group of fans'-indeed it's 'not even a group of shareholders', it is 'A SHAREHOLDER'.

The Greenock Morton Supporters' Society Ltd is a registered Industrial and Provident Society, owned by it's members, democratically run on a one member one vote principle. Our members/shareholders own the Society. We have no intention of moving away from our democratic principles and changing our present form.

An inanimate shareholder can't possibly identify or empathise with real live fans-I can't argue there.

Owned by it's members, democratically run on a one member one vote principle. Our members/shareholders own the Society. I think you'll find that it is "real live fans" who turn up at our AGM not cyber folk.

What about the hundreds of Trust members who disagree with that Stuart?
Did you consider their opinions, and their undying efforts to support 'the club' by raising money to fund projects 'the club' should really be funding himself, before you got wellied into your bed time story?

Democratically run on a one member one vote principle. If you are a member and don't agree with what happens today you have the ability to put your case forward to change it. If the majority agree with you then its a done deal, one member, one vote. It's as straight forward and simple as that

As I said before, FACTS ARE CHIELS THAT WINNA DING.

Only when you get them right.


It was, with due respect, a total waste of time reading that. Repeating yourself ad nauseam isn't really answering the questions I put.

The Trust HAS generally been seen to represent the fans, and Jim McColl HAS generally been seen to be their representative on the board.

I have NEVER stated that either of those perceptions has been correct, but perceptions they have been, and the fan base is MUCH bigger than just the supporters clubs or Trust as you very well know.

I have had over a dozen pm's today Stuart, several regarding the Moderator's apparent high handedness, in 'eliminating' my question about Alistair Donald, but four from posters encouraging me to 'keep asking questions'. Posters who, understandably, don't want to lift their heads above the parapet.

Is that in spite of your reassuring noises, or because of them-what do YOU think?
mortonjag 2008-06-02 22:36:43
QUOTE(Andy M @ Jun 2 2008, 08:15 PM) [snapback]455433[/snapback]
Hi Mortonjag.

I’ve been reading your posts and until now I haven’t really commented on them because I never could be sure what your intentions were.

I think in the past you have posted some pretty decent articles and asked some pretty pertinent questions. Unfortunately when you post questions on this messageboard, then you only get the opinions of the people who use the board. You get nothing from the club (not that I would expect that) but you do get a lot of so called people “in the know”. To criticise such “answers” the way you do does you no favours at all and gets you no closer to the correct answer.

I’m now trying to work out whether you just have a dislike for the Trust or not. I am beginning to think that you are really on a crusade to get DDF out of here. Well, i‘ve been in that position before and can tell you that your going about it in the wrong way. Lace into what’s wrong at the club, not what’s right. If the trust had been around prior to the battle that I and others fought, then we would not have ended up in the mess that we did.

I don’t agree with everything that the trust does, but I know that those who run the trust are trustworthy. I know that they will “blow the whistle” if necessary, and I know that until then they will continue to help the club in whatever way they see fit.

There were trust members and shareholders at the EGM. A trust member decided to take notes and post on the trust’s website for the benefit of his fellow trust members. It would appear that none of the other people present saw fit to take notes and post them on here. So you read a post which is in the wrong section of the forum and slam it as being “pish”. Are you angry because you can’t read the content? Or, are you angry at the trust? Or is it something else?

This makes me think that you are not such a bad guy, cos if you were trying to mount a serious crusade against DDF then you wouldn’t do it like that. We put the trust in place to take care of things like that should they be necessary. Maybe you want to consider helping them and giving your questions directly to them? That’s what I do, and they give me answers – it’s a great concept.



Andy-you are just another 'good guy' whose cage has been rattled, and BTW I've already seen those minutes! Mortonjag has many contacts who have come to understand that he has NO HIDDEN AGENDA.

I call it as I see it Andy-I don't like complacency-even from good guys-and the kind of knee jerking we're currently seeing makes me uncomfortable. I'm not trying to 'remove Rae'-he's making a damned good job of discrediting himself-but only a year or so ago I took 'pelters' for even daring to call him 'Shoogly'! IMHO he is an embarrassment to any intelligent fan and the ONE thing which now hampers progress.

You have totally misunderstood my 'Trust forum for this pish' comment. That was in response to our hallowed Mod transferring my legitimate open question to the Trust (re Alistair Donald) to the relative inexposure of the Trust forum. Why was that done do you think?

Far too many folk up their own arses, and far too many folk who have just had their own comfort zones violated.
mortonjag 2008-06-02 22:43:50
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 2 2008, 09:26 PM) [snapback]455461[/snapback]
I didn't call anyone 'brown faced'. Why are you asking me to defend something someone else said?

You have called me a fascist and a racist because I didn't condemn someone else for using that reference.

Does that make everyone else who didn't condemn it a fascist and racist as well, or is it just me?

You DID call me a pensioner.
mortonjag 2008-06-02 22:45:38
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 2 2008, 09:43 PM) [snapback]455468[/snapback]
I think there should be a separate thread for those who constantly refer to themselves in the third person......

Mortonjag concurs.
mortonjag 2008-06-02 22:49:18
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 2 2008, 10:43 PM) [snapback]455501[/snapback]
Yes. Yes she did.

Not you in that wig Davie.
mortonjag 2008-06-02 22:52:25
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jun 2 2008, 10:15 PM) [snapback]455485[/snapback]
bollocks ?? yes it would be if it was going through the books, but it isnt so it has no effect on my income tax ph34r.gif ohmy.gif

so far
mortonjag 2008-06-02 23:01:02
QUOTE(Andy M @ Jun 2 2008, 10:49 PM) [snapback]455506[/snapback]
Point(s) taken. Do you still not fancy joining the trust though? If more people with your enthusiam joined then I think the trust could achieve much much more than it is at present.

I'm not too keen on being regarded as a "good guy". I'd do the same as last time if I thought it necessary, it's just that I don't see the club being in any danger of going under at the moment. Thats not to say that I'm not looking at the situations as they arise. I therefore believe that we need a strong trust - with as many members as possible, if only to serve as a deterrent to any mischief or endangerment by ANY owner.

And, this is a good advert for the trust - so keep the debate going by all means, but try not to get angry.... ya bas wink.gif



Thanks Andy!


I have considered joining many times. Posts like yours encourage me. Why are other folk so nasty? sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-02 23:04:54
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Jun 2 2008, 10:27 PM) [snapback]455494[/snapback]
I have it on good authority that we are looking at a striking target of considerable more prowess than Arbuckle. So rest assured, we are looking at the right kind of player, we will just need to wait and see what unravels over the next couple of weeks. I'm pretty pleased with the signings thus far and I think that if all goes to plan, everyone will be happy with the squad come August.



signed Shoogly

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mortonjag 2008-06-02 23:07:30
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 2 2008, 10:50 PM) [snapback]455508[/snapback]
Yes. Yes it was.

Your modesty knows no bounds!
mortonjag 2008-06-02 23:10:29 Kirsty Young =arrogant dog=well known fact.
mortonjag 2008-06-02 23:15:28
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 2 2008, 05:52 PM) [snapback]455369[/snapback]
I just think long-term posters would have saw this option up there, tried it and realised it is the best way to view all the boards new posts.

Maybe I assume people have too much common sense, or are stuck in their ways.

Almost six hours and not a post Puggs-do you think the Moderator made the correct decision?

The Trust are claiming that the current publicity on the main forum is the best thing since sliced bread! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-03 05:30:19
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 2 2008, 11:27 PM) [snapback]455532[/snapback]
sad.gif

Guess I'm the only one to use it then tongue.gif

I doubt that, but I think my point has been made with poetic justice. The Moderator moved it without warning to a 'more appropriate forum'. If the Moderator wanted to stifle debate he was temporarily successful. I suspect he would claim that that was not his intention. wacko.gif

P.S. For the avoidance of confusion it wasn't the wee Moderator from Inverclyde, the medium Moderator from Embra, or the ex Moderator from Up his ain erse! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-03 06:03:00
QUOTE(Jim McColl @ Jun 3 2008, 12:53 AM) [snapback]455554[/snapback]
Andy, you are upset about being regarded as a "good guy" how the hell do you think I feel being regarded as "Mr nice guy" by people who know virtually nothing about me. You wouldn't believe the things I have to do for the Trust. Well actually you would, but most people on here wouldn't smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif
You also know that if we ever had to take to the streets again this time many of us would be much better prepared than the last time.

I wholeheartedly endorse this point to MJ. The strongest Trusts are those that embrace the widest range of supporters views. We are democrats, if we are in the minority we will move aside. I would love us to be a "broad church" but we can't force people to join, we can only make sure that the cost at less than 3p per day is trivial.
This is a long term thing about protecting clubs as community assets for our children and grandchildren.
Think about it again MJ.

Jim, I DO understand what it feels like to work your baws off as an officer with an autocratic psychopath on the bridge. I've been there myself in Practice, and after almost ten years of managing to change nothing I moved on to pastures new and a significantly lower income.

I have described you as 'Mr Nice Guy' only in response to those who have given you unqualified support. I believe you have singularly failed to 'represent the fans at Board level', but it seems that was never your remit in the first place, and I apologise if I've said anything unfair.


One thing IS clear though-the function of the Trust is still widely misunderstood not just by fans, but by many trust members. I got a p.m.yesterday from a regular poster lending support to my questions and signing himself 'Disgusted Trust member'.

The common thread seems to be a failure on the part of the Trust to communicate adequately with its members. Indeed that may be a very apt description of what started 'Keeping track of the Money'. Hopefully good will come of all this.

We should be pulling together as fans-maybe you need Mortonjag as your PR man-guaranteed I'd have Shoogly splashing his stash and giggling like a tickled child in less time than it takes to unwrap a Fudgy Wudgy. Mortonjag has that effect on folk. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-03 06:11:31
QUOTE(Jim McColl @ Jun 2 2008, 11:34 PM) [snapback]455534[/snapback]
I'm stretching my imagination as far as I can and still finding it hard to think of a situation where in a conversation between me and DDF the word mortonjag would arise. laugh.gif
The question was, as I think you know, rhetorical. I was making a point about some being criticised for using an alias when almost everybody uses an alias.
I really will have to learn to use these wee faces properly.
smile.gif


QUOTE(Stuart Duncan @ Jun 2 2008, 11:50 PM) [snapback]455539[/snapback]
Maybe now people will realise that we don't represent all the fans, we couldn't possibly. But we have said that over and over again. If I'm repeating myself its in the forlorn hope that people will get the message. If they want the Trust to represent them they have to join.

We have received a question from a member regarding Mr Donald and we will take action on behalf of that member.

If people don't want to lift their head above the parapet that's fine. I understand that. But any correspondence we get from a member is dealt with in confidence. What that member choses to do with any answers they may get to questions is entirely up to them.


You can't really let go-can you Stuart! You claim to be relishing publicity while still sounding like a Masonic Grand Master sad.gif

BTW that wee face was for Jim's benefit! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-03 06:28:08 Ubiquitous Chap-Club director posted 'absent' at the recent EGM-says little-supposed to be on Board in ADVISORY capacity smile.gif -quoted as 'I won't be investing at this stage'-worth mega bucks-well known Hun-


What's the score folks?
mortonjag 2008-06-03 06:38:09 If a thread is transferred from one forum to another can we ensure in future that it doesn't just 'disappear'.

This suggestion is particularly relevant to threads which have run for many hours with several inputs and a hundred or so views, as in yesterday's re Alistair Donald.

I believe it would get our Moderators a better press-indeed it might make them look less self indulgent and more interested in un-muffled debate.
mortonjag 2008-06-03 06:43:12
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 2 2008, 11:17 PM) [snapback]455527[/snapback]
If she's an "arrogant dog" ye could just pump her anyway, then tell her she was crap.

She was crap-it was pure arrogance insisting on the money.
mortonjag 2008-06-03 06:46:40
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jun 2 2008, 09:46 PM) [snapback]455472[/snapback]
Hello,

I was wondering if you remember the series that used to come on childrens TV about a young girl called Heidi who lived in the swiss alps with her grandfather ?

There was a boy who looked after goats called Peter and he was her friend.

One day Heidi's rich aunt came and took her away from her grandfather and into a real posh house, they started calling her Adelheid there instead of Heidi...Heidi didnt like it much and dreamt of being back with her grandfather.

Heidi eventually came back and had managed to get a pair of spectacles for Peter's blind grandmother.

It came on nearly every year or so. Do you remember it ?


One of the problems faced by wee pensioners is the fading memory. For some reason I always mix 'Heidi' up with 'Snowwhite and the seven * potential ethnic slur removed*'
mortonjag 2008-06-03 07:00:09
QUOTE(simple_ton @ Jun 3 2008, 12:43 AM) [snapback]455553[/snapback]
What was racist about the post? Keith Vaz has brown skin, therefore he IS brown faced. A statement of fact. If that's racist, why have you not condemed Mortonjag on his numerous use of the "little PINK botties" phrase?


I would happily thrash any little botty which deserved to be thrashed. I was brought up in a Christian country in an age when the thrashing of little pink botties was acceptably normal. I believe I was in my late thirties when I first saw little brown, and little black botties too. I can say from the heart of my bottom that I was not intending to cause racial offence.



QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 3 2008, 02:14 AM) [snapback]455562[/snapback]
So let me get this right..... either I condemn a posting, made by someone else, that you consider to be 'politically incorrect' otherwise I am a fascist and a racist..... laugh.gif

Do you have any idea how much of a fool of yourself you're making? You know, the really sad thing about this is, you almost certainly don't.

There, there-talk about accusing others of hi-jacking your thread when you've made a cracking job of it yourself.

Care to comment on Mr Vaz's e-mail? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-03 07:05:18
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 2 2008, 11:26 PM) [snapback]455531[/snapback]
Why is that Katkit guy not on the list?

Somebody melted him.

QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 3 2008, 02:33 AM) [snapback]455564[/snapback]
i picked piehutt, but only because the other two are my Cyber lovers. Im the meat in their youthful and ageing sandwhich.


Perhaps we could invite piehole along on Saturday-who knows-it might be his first time!
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 3 2008, 02:34 AM) [snapback]455565[/snapback]
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TRUSSSSSSSSSSSST IN ME
mortonjag 2008-06-03 07:16:38 I expect some of our posters have experienced this illness. I've treated it in the past, but now have a family member affected.

How did it make you feel, how long were you off school/studies/ work, did others think you were 'at it'?

In particular I'd like to know how long it was before you were FULLY recovered.
mortonjag 2008-06-03 07:20:36 An update for those who asked for pics. I've managed to put a wee photo on my profile. I can't work out how to put one here! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-03 07:59:39
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 3 2008, 07:49 AM) [snapback]455583[/snapback]
I already did........ 23 hours ago.

See my posting yesterday at 8:47am.

Yes I had seen that-I meant the e-mail to Mrs Lee.
mortonjag 2008-06-03 08:24:02
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jun 3 2008, 07:57 AM) [snapback]455584[/snapback]
count me in, i could do with losing some weight tongue.gif

You'll need to stop consuming leaded fuel my dear.
mortonjag 2008-06-03 08:28:16 Which is worse- a few drunken clowns doing daft wee Hitler salutes and stuff, or a few drunken clowns tanning some old dear's window? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-03 08:33:22
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jun 3 2008, 08:28 AM) [snapback]455590[/snapback]
yeah that would maybe help - but the buzz is awesome!

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I'd also advise Voddy straight from the litre bottle-those crystal glasses are full of lead-worse than sookin' a bullet I'm lead to believe, and it saves you having to refill four times.
mortonjag 2008-06-03 08:36:21
QUOTE(dazed @ Jun 3 2008, 08:31 AM) [snapback]455591[/snapback]
i remember this game also but im afraid your memory is playing tricks on you as he did not play in this game as he was injured . Most of the crowd turned up hoping to see him as he retired soon after .

Correct-Hal Stewart sure knew how to con folk pull in a crowd! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-03 08:40:11
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jun 3 2008, 08:34 AM) [snapback]455593[/snapback]
give it a rest mj.
i'm onboard with 'some' of your points about dougie, but give alistair donald and the trust guys some peace

unsure.gif


It is intended to be a SERIOUS question about an issue which I believe should interest all true fans.

Anyway-you should know better than to ask me to 'give it a rest'.

There again-maybe you did! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-03 08:46:51
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 3 2008, 08:40 AM) [snapback]455599[/snapback]
Stephen Ladysman, a former rides minister who is MP for Lanark South, a marginal constituency, said: “It is important to recognise that the election is won or lost in Scotland.

“We need to have Scottish voices speaking and giving messages that make sense in Scottish communities.”

His views were echoed by H E Boil, the MP for Elgin: “Voters are looking to see a better balance within the cabinet to ensure that all the regions of Scotland are represented.”

ibid

hardly racism, though



Sounds like just what the folk want to hear Trumpet!
mortonjag 2008-06-03 08:51:35
QUOTE(dazed @ Jun 3 2008, 08:46 AM) [snapback]455607[/snapback]
Correct-Hal Stewart sure knew how to con folk pull in a crowd! wink.gif
[/quoteI think im right in saying that Hal was the first director / owner to have a testemonial game! and brought out Celtic and Rangers cigarettes to let the bigots smoke themselves to oblivion! Although this idea never really caught fire and they quickly disappeared!

laugh.gif laugh.gif

That definitely rings a bell!

He was-I believe- a regional sales director for the Coop-'Rocky Mount' was the brand he peddled in them thar days, when real men smoked Capstan full strength to 'take the strain', closet pufes dragged on Craven A-'kind to your throat', and Woodbine was 'A rer wee fag'!.
mortonjag 2008-06-03 08:58:34 unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-03 09:02:09
QUOTE(dazed @ Jun 3 2008, 08:37 AM) [snapback]455595[/snapback]
Thats a fair point we must control our neds better! laugh.gif what does the monkey think?

The Monkey is in favour of thrashing little pink botties.

QUOTE(Alibi @ Jun 3 2008, 08:37 AM) [snapback]455596[/snapback]
MJ, I think that was one drunken yob, not a whole bunch of them. The Nazi stuff is there, and in significant numbers, at every Airdrie game.

I hope they don't change the world!

QUOTE(dazed @ Jun 3 2008, 08:43 AM) [snapback]455604[/snapback]
Joking aside you are right its not just one or two there is plenty of them .

Hunners even?
mortonjag 2008-06-03 09:04:49
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jun 3 2008, 08:43 AM) [snapback]455603[/snapback]
I'm glad you find it all so amusing. Pr1ck.

Hang on, you have a customer waiting. I think he wants fries with that.

Does caputupanus have a bugger burger van?
mortonjag 2008-06-03 12:44:51
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jun 3 2008, 12:03 PM) [snapback]455676[/snapback]
if he has been involved in making the club more profitable, and brining in new ideas, then I ask.. where is the evidence of these... the club is still run like a cub scout bring and buy sale, there has been no "new ideas" or "thinking outside the box" as far as I can see.. quite the opposite in fact, we are continuing to see commercial suicide as far as marketing morton football club as a brand (even though it is a small one)... if you want commercial success you MUST put your customer first (the fans) otherwise everything else wont click into place.. regardless of sponsorship / tv / league monies etc.

In a broader and forward thinking sense, the new share issue can surely be seen as a step forward.

In every other sense I agree with what you say-the Club is an utter shambles of amateurism.

Here's a very simple example-it costs £2.50 for a match day programme, and income from advertising is linked to sales figures-sell more programmes and you can charge more money to wealthier advertisers-that's how it works-quite simple. £2.50's a sort of make or break figure for the average fan-if he's looking forward to reading the programme he'll shell out-otherwise it buys another pint after the match.

So what's the biggest by far article every week-a two page splurge of 'Chairman's Notes' which invariably includes criticism of our players, sometimes of our fans, and which is written in embarrassingly stilted English. O.K. it's Dougie Rae's Club-he's entitled to have his say, but surely this is just one example of how bad the Chairman's business sense is-certainly when it comes to running a football club. Apart from that it's a lucky bag of good and downright crass. Arthur Montford's excellent articles certainly give a lot of credibility to the rag.

Project that scenario to what should be the real money spinner in the advertising stakes-sponsorship-and IMHO you see one of the biggest jokes in Scottish football.

If Alistair Donald had had anything to do with it I believe we'd already have a new sponsor.

I can't see someone with his track record meekly giving advice only to see it knocked back, yet I DON'T believe he's there for fun.

Is he playing a waiting game? Is he hoping Auld Shoogly is about to pop his clogs-if so he may very well go first!! smile.gif

....or could it be that he's already offered money to buy the club only to discover that true to form the asking price is way over the odds?
mortonjag 2008-06-03 12:50:07
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Jun 3 2008, 12:42 PM) [snapback]455698[/snapback]
Then why the 'HUN' remark ?
It's the usual so boring Mj having a go. We all know that when given the opportunity he didn't say a thing.

The question maybe valid but who on this board can give the answer?

Ask the powers that be and get off your trip Mj.

It would appear that Mortonjag's posts continue to be therapeutic for the borderline brain damaged and angst laden.

A point of information for you-Mr Donald is a well known, life time, and avid Rangers fan who reputedly tried to invest some ten million in the club a few years back.

If you object to me calling him a 'hun', I'm sorry to have offended you and would like to know which Scottish football team you support.
mortonjag 2008-06-03 12:54:22 Zilch on GMFC! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-03 12:57:10
QUOTE(dazed @ Jun 3 2008, 11:01 AM) [snapback]455656[/snapback]
Aye an mibby thoosanns! laugh.gif

Lots of lovely little pink botties, each with its endearing little swastika tattoo-WALLOP-WALLOP-WALLOP! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-03 13:01:56
QUOTE(Patg @ Jun 3 2008, 09:25 AM) [snapback]455618[/snapback]
I was told recently that Gretnas chairmen took out a second mortage on his house to garuntee some money at the bank ...

So this poor guy is going lose his house in next few weeks ,,,

Pat G
Ton Till I Die



It happens to folk who make foolish business decisions every day of the week. There are worse things in life than losing your home.

Look at poor Mr Mileson, lying somewhere on his death bed as he battles legion ailments, and never a word of complaint is heard.

Time to get things in perspective.
mortonjag 2008-06-03 13:04:13
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 3 2008, 09:12 AM) [snapback]455614[/snapback]
Same response.... the e-mail to Ms Lee was word-for-word the same as the one he sent me.

Did he know you are both Morton fans?
mortonjag 2008-06-03 13:08:13
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 3 2008, 09:19 AM) [snapback]455616[/snapback]
He was also involved in whisky distribution.

Whit a man.

smile.gif smile.gif

He certainly catered for the man in the street-if he'd been in the sex industry I can imagine the ad...

Hal's Angels-why pay more?
mortonjag 2008-06-03 13:10:16
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 3 2008, 10:30 AM) [snapback]455636[/snapback]
Three of my mates work in the oil industry (all offshore) and I'm sure they won't mind me saying that they are ridiculously overpaid for what they do. They're on 4 or 5 times more than someone doing a comparable job onshore

Fair play to them though, I don't grudge them it - they're hardly going to knock it back and they're all well aware it's not going to last forever.

laugh.gif

Almost all of my patients who worked offshore were very heavy drinkers! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-03 13:12:22
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 3 2008, 10:32 AM) [snapback]455637[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif

You'll notice the 'ageing' bit.

That boy will go far!
mortonjag 2008-06-03 13:23:51 links?
mortonjag 2008-06-03 13:26:40
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jun 3 2008, 12:25 PM) [snapback]455684[/snapback]
I can have a look, but I suspect I/we'll need to own the licence for the software before we can do that...although happy to be proved wrong? Nach0 may know more as I think he purchased a software licence when he was in charge.
I don't always leave a tracer either, especially if a thread is simply in the wrong place. I have played about and left a tracer to your Trust thread. Case closed?

I certainly wouldn't want to look bad in the eyes of the forum members...I wouldn't be able to sleep at night.

tongue.gif Wish others were like you!
mortonjag 2008-06-03 13:37:42
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Jun 3 2008, 01:00 PM) [snapback]455724[/snapback]
The usual abusive reply that I have come to expect from you.
Why do you refer to yourself in the third person?
I support Greenock Morton and have done so for my entire life. Born and bred Morton.
I was born in this town live in this town and support my local side. Unlike you my focus is positive. I don't waste time being negative in as many topics as you seem to haunt.

Come on Doc there are plenty of bad things in this world why don't you be positive and try and use your time and energy in a constructive way.

It's actually your type of random criticism of the Jag which is now becoming boring to the posters. Instead of acknowledging like THE MAJORITY of posters on this thread that I've asked valid questions, you couldn't resist 'having a go'. Nothing positive at all-just bloody well having a go, and you accuse ME of being 'abusive'. mad.gif

QUOTE(morethanagame @ Jun 3 2008, 01:16 PM) [snapback]455742[/snapback]
I understand that. However to keep a balance we all need to be positive to balance Mj negativity.
Check out the threads he is currenty active in "Kirtsy Young" "Allan McManus" etc etc negative , negative negative.

What do I know? Apparently I am borderline brain damaged. rolleyes.gif

Really-that would explain everything-I merely had you as angst laden.

QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jun 3 2008, 01:22 PM) [snapback]455748[/snapback]
maybe if EVERYONE else who uses this bord became negative.. then MortonJag would HAVE to resort to being positive, just to be different (if that is his intentions)....

wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-03 13:40:39
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 3 2008, 01:29 PM) [snapback]455756[/snapback]
laugh.gif That joke was rough tongue.gif

Couldn't resist chipping in.
mortonjag 2008-06-03 18:47:49
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Jun 3 2008, 09:34 AM) [snapback]455620[/snapback]
Of course, if you were to be our PR man you would actually be expected to show up anytime Rae held a public meeting.

What a silly and pointless thing to say.
mortonjag 2008-06-03 18:59:09
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Jun 3 2008, 03:07 PM) [snapback]455795[/snapback]
Whoopedeedoo you've made some valid points. Let a horse blow into a trumpet for a year and it's sure to hit some proper notes occasionally.

Another of the 'positive' brigade I see!

Did that make you feel very important?

Mortonjag ALWAYS makes valid points.


Cretins have difficulty in recognising valid points.

What are your views on Alistair Donald?

I see the Trust is as quiet about this as they were noisy for the past couple of days- maybe they're working on a six page reply!

Stuart, Jim, Trust Member-Mortonjag's giving you more publicity! wink.gif wink.gif wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-03 19:02:17
QUOTE(ianton @ Jun 3 2008, 06:54 PM) [snapback]455862[/snapback]
thats a fair shout.he bottles out of every meeting.he just makes the bullets for everybody else to fire.then spouts his pish on here.

What do you think of Alistair Donald-Einstein? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-03 19:15:54
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 3 2008, 03:19 PM) [snapback]455797[/snapback]
I met my mate his name was Cliff
He was in a huff as we had a tiff
I said "what's wrong, you look out of sorts ?"
He said "Does my bum look big in my wee white tennis shorts ?"

I said " Don't ask me ask Big Dennis"
He said "Don't be silly, he's not into tennis!"
I said "Fcuk knows !"
But he took the huff, and walked away on his tippy toes



I met my mate the other day...
the one who claims Sir Cliff is 'gay'
and sticking knob up bum's a footer---
'cos Moira's always there to put 'er
ageing gob around your shooter
when Bawheid's shagging Soapy Soutar--
he says he likes it best that way
and who am I to disagree...
it stops the c*nt from shagging me.

mortonjag 2008-06-03 19:21:18
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 3 2008, 07:15 PM) [snapback]455872[/snapback]
one of our members has asked us to ask what Alistair Donalds role is, when he gets a reply he can do what he wants with it. currently we know what was in the tele and what was stated in Scottish Cup programme v Gretna dated 12th January which can be read http://greenockmortonfc.blogspot.com/2008/...r-on-board.html on jonatons great blog.

Jonaton has things tattooed on his great blog Bryan.

The world's full of surprises!

I heard it reads 'Asti Dad'. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-03 19:27:07
QUOTE(Mr Toon @ Jun 3 2008, 02:03 PM) [snapback]455773[/snapback]
I've voted for MJ, but just to please him!

Thanks Toon-it looks like the old Jag's now winning.

That's as should be of course.

What are the odds against piehole coming in with a late burst?
mortonjag 2008-06-03 19:29:19
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Jun 3 2008, 03:05 PM) [snapback]455794[/snapback]
.....or someone has stolen his logon details !!

midTONs was not Davie McArthur
mortonjag 2008-06-03 19:31:24
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 3 2008, 04:01 PM) [snapback]455808[/snapback]
He's also got two lugs, brown eyes, dark hair.

Nobody called him a two lugged racist, a brown eyed racist, a dark haired racist.

Why is skin colour so important?

Keeps the melanocytes off the dole.
mortonjag 2008-06-03 19:33:12 I thought this was another thread about Kirsty Young.
mortonjag 2008-06-03 19:37:59
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 3 2008, 02:54 PM) [snapback]455789[/snapback]
Is there any chance that MJ could have his own thread and have his I'D pinned to it so he cant post on every single other thread. Then if folk are interested they will have the option of replying or not wink.gif

I don't think the big Mod would allow that Gibby-though it's an ingenious idea. If it does happen-promise me you'll only post when sober. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-03 19:40:25
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jun 3 2008, 07:24 PM) [snapback]455878[/snapback]
rolleyes.gif

Let's not get carried away just yet wink.gif

Mortonjag never gets carried away Cawstick tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-03 19:45:02 I met my mate the other day
He said-a goalie's signed for Rae
His name I hear is Clayton Ince
He'll be another pun o' mince.
mortonjag 2008-06-04 04:32:43

Geoff Brown, the St Johnstone chairman, last night angrily blamed a Brooks Mileson "ego trip" for Gretna's grief and insisted Scottish football should put measures in place to make sure there is no repeat of this fiasco.

Brown was on the receiving end of flak from Gretna management and players last summer for stating they weren't wanted by the SPL, after the Perth club were pipped to promotion on the final day.

However, Brown said: "They talked about living the dream and some people bought into it while Gretna were promoted, reached the cup final and qualified for Europe. But there was always going to be a day of reckoning.


"When Gretna beat us to the title last year I was painted as the bad guy for saying in public what SPL chairman were saying in private. But why pull the wool over fans' eyes? No-one wanted them in the SPL - and no wonder given what followed. It has been a mess.

"As far as I'm concerned people were misled by an ego-tripper who was looking after No.1. The debts have stacked up and some very good people could be facing financial ruin. How many of Gretna's creditors are ordinary folk who have been taken to the cleaners? That infuriates me. They have been taken for ride.

"There's a credibility issue for Scottish football and I remember Fergus McCann in his time at Celtic saying clubs should have a business plan and financial statements in place to see them through the following season. That way the league could be assured the fixtures would be fulfilled.

"We have had to wait for so-called Gretna rescue plans to run their course, but they were never going to stack up. How could a place no bigger than Brechin operate a full-time football club with a £40,000-a-week wage bill?
"

Mortonjag predicted Gretna's ruin confidently over three years ago.

People should listen to Mortonjag and not mock him.

People who attempt to mock Mortonjag inevitably lose face.

People who attempt to mock Mortonjag sometimes lose lots of LUVLY MUNNY ! cool.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-04 04:40:08
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 3 2008, 10:00 PM) [snapback]455967[/snapback]
laugh.gif busy man me, repling to the jag is a full time job laugh.gif

Oh-the grumbles and grice of today's weans!

When I was your age I had seven paper rounds netting me three pounds ten a week and still had time to write a regular article for the 'Daily Worker' and nothing.
mortonjag 2008-06-04 04:45:07
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jun 3 2008, 12:27 PM) [snapback]455686[/snapback]
Yeah I thought that's what would happen...!

I think it's less of a breeding ground than it used to be.

Junior football's good entertainment. I live in the comfort of knowing that if the unthinkable happened I'd start supporting Pollok to whose ground I can walk in less than five minutes.

Indeed I'd visit their Social Club which is even closer, if I wasn't a recluse and troublemaker.
mortonjag 2008-06-04 04:53:11
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 3 2008, 05:37 PM) [snapback]455831[/snapback]
Or...crisis loans for new beds or cookers could drop a lot in Inverclyde laugh.gif

Somebody once chucked a cooker out of a high flat in Glasgow followed by himself. There was a bit of a kerfuffle for a while. The cooker was damaged beyond redemption.
I believe it was the result of a lovers' tiff and her bad cooking.

Sad when you consider the cost of white goods those days.
mortonjag 2008-06-04 04:57:22
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 3 2008, 08:21 PM) [snapback]455912[/snapback]
That's too brassy MJ. Not subtle enough tongue.gif

I actually like the last couplet Spurtle! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-04 05:01:19
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Jun 3 2008, 06:38 PM) [snapback]455856[/snapback]
Yes, that was a funny little addition.

All I'm saying is that I have been made aware of us going for someone who is definately a better target than Arbuckle. I'm not sure how feasible it would be to bring the player to Cappielow, but while he is not a superstar, he is someone who I would imagine everybody would be impressed with. And my source is not the "Morton physio" or "not the Morton physio, but the physio's dad's brother's pet dog Rex's uncle."

Don't trust a single miaow you hear from that rag tailed feline.
mortonjag 2008-06-04 05:10:52
QUOTE(Jim McColl @ Jun 3 2008, 10:12 PM) [snapback]455975[/snapback]
At least you were getting an income. sad.gif


I take it you don't like sweeties then!


Apology accepted. We could have a whole new debate about the concept and practice of someone being "THE" fan's representative on the board but that might be for another day. Its the close season, we seem to be making some reasonable signings. Time for a bit of a rest.

I wish you could have replaced that with 'many', and 'good'!



The last thing anybody on the Trust board would claim would be that we were good at communicating.



And the last thing this message board needs is for you and Stuart and Trust member et al to disappear again. It's good to talk as that daft burd used to say-talking of which, give my regards to the backroom girls next time you see them! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-04 05:16:32 Nothing yet-I smell a rat! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-04 05:32:37
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Jun 3 2008, 07:48 PM) [snapback]455895[/snapback]
I'm not being facetious, but why don't you email the club, phone them, or write a letter asking. For me, he is just another board member and I have no more knowledge of what he does than what was written in the press at the time of his appointment. However, when I don't know the answer to a question, I ask the person most likely to give the most accurate and correct answer. In this case, Mr Donald.

Send him an email
asking for a quick summary of his role and if he gets back to you then you have done well, if he doesn't, you are no worse off.

May I have his personal e-mail address?
mortonjag 2008-06-04 05:46:24
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 3 2008, 08:27 PM) [snapback]455914[/snapback]
so, you could try the following:
1) ask mr donald
2) become a shareholder and attend a meeting (ooer missus). ask your question as a shareholder
3) bleat on a messageboard

i would start at the top of the list

Mr Donald would surely reply to an eminent Glasgow Physician-Trumpet.Please forward his contact details, and I'll get on to his case without further ado. I'm NOT being facetious.

QUOTE(Cawston @ Jun 3 2008, 08:38 PM) [snapback]455919[/snapback]
Carried out more like tongue.gif
It was interesting that Davie Irons took time out to specifically mention him after the Thistle, he's obviously playing an active role at the club.



The share issue opens some big questions as well. £800K of shares with the Raes taking £200K max, will Donald pick up the rest and cement his position at Cappielow?



It was indeed, and was picked up on by those who ARE genuinely interested in this issue and in the future of the club. Word on the street is that the old Shooglemeister was none too chuffed that some of his thunder had been stolen! tongue.gif


QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 3 2008, 08:58 PM) [snapback]455929[/snapback]
Tried that 3 weeks ago , when the End of Pro youth thread was running . Not a jot , explained that I had asked questions at the Q+A , so I thought the club would at least acknowledge the recieving of my concerns .

It's astonishing that their failure to respond to your questions and MANY OTHERS is totally ignored by folk who are only on this board to stir up trouble Chris! wink.gif

QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jun 3 2008, 10:42 PM) [snapback]455986[/snapback]
£750K of shares - and why do you think that the Raes will only take £200K max?

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

You really can't resist it big ears, and you and the master weren't even at the EGM where the nature and purpose of the new share issue was pretty clearly spelled out. You don't know how many shares Mortonjag's just about to scoop up. Are Mortonjag and Alistair Donald secretly in cahoots. Could Mortonjag and Alistair Donald be the same person?

BTW I've got a mate at Blochairn who does a good line in class c carrots-Shoogly might be interested.
mortonjag 2008-06-04 06:04:38
QUOTE(pgmsc @ Jun 3 2008, 03:25 PM) [snapback]455800[/snapback]
Youth coaches for next season are already known Jamie told 3-4 months ago he would not be taking the youth Team.With all the threads going about the youth set up thought you would have seen who was taking the youth teams

He's only interested in the sound of his own voice.

QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jun 4 2008, 12:37 AM) [snapback]456016[/snapback]
I totally agree when it's players under 30 who are still young boys who haven't had much of a career themselves and are likely to want to move on. I think it's a wee bit different when the guy is over 30, has a wealth of experience to pass on and looking to move into coaching when he retires, possibly at the end of his contract with the club.

As long as McManus takes it serious, which I think he will, I think his appointment to the Under 19s is a positive move.

Precisely-young enough to relate to and be related to by teenagers, but the wearer of many tee shirts. A 'makes sense' signing for DI.
mortonjag 2008-06-04 06:11:14
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jun 3 2008, 08:33 PM) [snapback]455916[/snapback]
Morton could do a lot worse than looking to the Caribbean for talent. They have excellent grass roots and the guys are generally very strong and very fast. The only problem is the winter weather where they'd probably ice up and freeze on the Cappielow pitch. I've been back a year and the winter here was unbearable and I was only away for three years, god knows how a Trini goalie will feel.


Warm and cuddly I guess.


QUOTE(Edinton @ Jun 3 2008, 09:50 PM) [snapback]455960[/snapback]
My mate just told me his missus has gone on holiday to the Caribbean. "Jamaica?" I enquired...



FFS not a Smiley in response-must be the way you tell them! wink.gif

ORRRRRRRRR-wait-could it be that most of our posters are thick humourless dolts?
mortonjag 2008-06-04 06:13:45
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jun 4 2008, 06:02 AM) [snapback]456036[/snapback]
That was a genius idea in theory. Just a shame Claude Anelka was at the head of it.

See you've slopped out already! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-04 06:29:48
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 4 2008, 05:04 AM) [snapback]456031[/snapback]
If only MortonJag had been born in the United States, the world would be about to become a paradise.

Forget JFK's first 100 days.

Just imagine what MortonJag could achieve in 100 days in the White House.

IRAQ - fixed

IRAN - fixed

GLOBAL WARMING - fixed

RECORD OIL PRICES - fixed

If only the early US politicans had the same foresight that MortonJag has.

sad.gif sad.gif



You know that and Mortonjag knows that Newt, but others still mock.

Mortonjag confidently predicted the ultimate demise of St James of the immaculate gameplan too!

The future of the Shoogly Show is a wee bit harder to call. Let's just say that the apparent silence of Alistair Donald allied to success which makes 'Shoogly's Sweeties' microscopic, augurs well for the club in financial terms at least.

Last night Alistair told me that as I climbed up the stair, I saw a man who wasn't there.

He wasn't there again today....I wish that man would go away.
mortonjag 2008-06-04 06:33:01
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 3 2008, 07:41 PM) [snapback]455891[/snapback]
Moray BTW, and thank you for the cream

All teuchters are the same to me Trumpet-is your dick less sick now?
mortonjag 2008-06-04 06:35:25
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 3 2008, 08:09 PM) [snapback]455908[/snapback]
isn't it nice when you can have it both ways unsure.gif

....indeed, and the occasional coo puts the icing on the cake.
mortonjag 2008-06-04 06:57:25
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 3 2008, 09:16 PM) [snapback]455936[/snapback]
Hey...anyone who knows me will tell you I'm an emotional guy. I love my wife and family. I just can't stand modernity, that's all..... ohmy.gif

You sound like a lovely personable and wise man.

I can't stand modernity either-I hate old buffoons in charge of football clubs- middle aged chancers in charge of governments distress me, but my biggest hate of all is folk who are up their own arses.

Many can be spotted on a daily browse of this message board-most are cruel to this poster.

It took Mortonjag years to fully accept and understand his unsurpassed brilliance and scintillating wit.

He used to feign humility, not totally convinced of his immutable perfection, but gradual acceptance of that reality endowed him with a serenity and blissful contentment rarely surpassed in the history of mankind.

Power to your elbow Mr McArthur-stand up for your beliefs-don't let those sh1t covered, shell suited, slevering serpentine slobs who infest Holyrood, County Buildings, and Kelvingrove Park deflect you from the pursuit of Godliness.

Practice makes perfect. Mortonjag is living evidence.

Munx and Fing agree.
mortonjag 2008-06-04 07:01:10
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 4 2008, 06:50 AM) [snapback]456046[/snapback]
A monkey and a flea and three blind mice
Sat on a kerbstone shooting dice
The monkey did a flip and fell on the flea
The flea said, "Whoops, there's a monkey on me"

On the money mate!

By the way-Munx is my son.
mortonjag 2008-06-04 07:14:46
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Jun 3 2008, 09:34 PM) [snapback]455945[/snapback]
Your passions are overflowing DM, one minute your dribbling over Kirsty Young, the next your having a wet dream about some old bikes........wait a minute, it's the same fantasy huh.gif

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It amuses me reading about those who cycle in the city-don't get me wrong-I love cycling, and toured Scotland as a youngster, but City cyclists fall into three groups:

Careful, courteous, and only potentially suicidal

Lazy, slapdash, and accidents waiting to happen

Big headed fuds who deserve to be knocked off their apparently inviolable armoured chargers.

This last group is the absolute embodiment of arrogance and 'evil motorist' paranoia-so far I have only managed to main forty three but I intend to keep trying once I get the next court case out of the road.
mortonjag 2008-06-04 07:18:35
QUOTE(RankinBorn75 @ Jun 3 2008, 10:44 AM) [snapback]455643[/snapback]
Yeah and she was to live with her grandmother there was a girl called Clara in a wheelchair .. still would have got it though ...

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mortonjag 2008-06-04 07:26:43
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 4 2008, 06:37 AM) [snapback]456044[/snapback]
Hindsight Is A Wonderful Thing, For those without Mortonjag's vision

For those of us without Mortonjag's vision, what is your vision for 2008/2009 please seer ?

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I see an old man on a piece of grass-there's something in his hand-it's becoming clearer-yes it's a microphone-he's speaking into it-saying 'my palm has been lined with silver' and ---it get's vague-wait---a younger man approaches--he's saying something like-you'll never get another-------drat-I've lost it Newt.
mortonjag 2008-06-04 07:30:38
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 4 2008, 07:05 AM) [snapback]456049[/snapback]
I thought you was his father.

He is my son and heir-fing is his adoptive brother.
mortonjag 2008-06-04 07:32:03
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 4 2008, 07:07 AM) [snapback]456050[/snapback]
Austrian "dungeon monster" Josef Fritzl has reportedly been sent hundreds of love letters from lonely women offering him romance and understanding.
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FREAKS! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-04 07:34:51
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 4 2008, 07:18 AM) [snapback]456057[/snapback]
did you mean to maim them ?

as an alternative to ambulance chasing ?

I maimed most of them just because I don't like their attitude.
mortonjag 2008-06-04 07:47:59
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Jun 3 2008, 09:41 PM) [snapback]455955[/snapback]
If they threatened legal action and C4 pulled it, then I think perhaps it's more to do with the programme makers having something to hide. Not the first time producers have made "interesting" documentaries.

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QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 3 2008, 09:56 PM) [snapback]455963[/snapback]
What does Spammer mean blink.gif unsure.gif

It means that Trumpet's grooming you-hopefully I'll now get out of his evil clutches! wink.gif

QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 3 2008, 10:11 PM) [snapback]455972[/snapback]
Very interesting thread and the reactions.

Wonder if any the folk who signed the petition own anything manufactured in China?

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Jewel morality eh-every one a f*ckin gem!


Our society gets wimpier by the minute-next we'll be sending our NHS lock stock and barrel (take Sturgeon PLEASE) to Outer Mungrowlia and going back to nature for herbal cures.

I'm more interested in sweat shops in our own country where we SHOULD be doing something about it but actually don't give a Fudgy Wudgy! wink.gif wink.gif wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-04 07:56:10 It sounds like he was pretty active even well into his seventies, despite suffering from diabetes.

A legend who has outlasted his peers, and died at the age of eighty.

Well done that man! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-04 07:58:22
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 4 2008, 07:42 AM) [snapback]456064[/snapback]
It seems that they will have artificial assistance in rubbing their balls at Trent Bridge.
http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=574375

How is the natural method defined?
mortonjag 2008-06-04 08:14:33 Ron MacGregor was in the Record today complaining about the fact that no-one will congratulate Gretna or recognize their amazing achievements.

MacGregor and Rae-peas in a pod. Now Rae at Dumfries-he's seventy years of age and not even slightly demented.


QUOTE(Alibi @ Jun 3 2008, 08:07 PM) [snapback]455906[/snapback]
He left hospital on the 22nd February - that's more than 3 months ago - and I would be extremely surprised if he's in anything but his "normal" state of health. It suits him to leave the impression that he is on his last legs because that way he gets left alone. Until apparently the Daily Mail went to see him - haven't seen the article but I heard they were told in no uncertain terms to go away, or words to that effect. And allegedly someone told the reporter "he doesn't give a sh1t about Gretna". Class, eh?



I cannot understand the apparently wimpish impotence of those whom Pony Tail has well and truly f*cked. There must be scores of folk who really want to hurt him, and there ARE ways and means. If he had been law abiding I'd be encouraging folk to behave similarly.

QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 3 2008, 08:21 PM) [snapback]455913[/snapback]
but you've not even reached 20000 laugh.gif

come on, pull your finger out

Quality in quantity Trumpet-you just stick to your wee bugle.
mortonjag 2008-06-04 08:34:46
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 4 2008, 08:00 AM) [snapback]456072[/snapback]
His peers were Chuck Berry and Little Richard both of whom are still alive.

I was talking statistically-life expectancy style. It's amazing that those guys you mention just seem to go on and on.

I noticed your initial comment about the 'number of music threads'.

The truth is that the forum is infected with the plastic crap of the younger generation.(The under fifties), with very little diversity of opinion. I enjoy music in the same way as art-if it floats my boat, I don't give a toss who 'made' it. Van Morrison in the car-Handel in the lavvy-the Kooks in the kitchen, Ikea pictures on the walls, etc. My posh brother in Wemyss Bay has some JoLoMo stuff-that guy-the latter needs his effin eyes tested!

'What are you listening to' is BY FAR the most inane and consequently popular thread ever.

It's just a bloody ego trips for the weans.

Three or four times I've incorporated a totally fake song and artist to 'test the water' and despite the rage for 'hitting' the Jag, they've all been too busy slevering over their keyboards-desperate to impress the rest with their particular brand of mass produced keech.

And a Be-Bop-A-Lula morning to you Mr McArthur-I'm off for one.

mortonjag 2008-06-04 08:50:06
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jun 4 2008, 08:23 AM) [snapback]456078[/snapback]
Ah, so Capitanus' real name is Paul. Now, there was someone of that name who seemed to have an irrational dislike of me on this board a few years ago. Maybe it's the same person.

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Nah-only joking Adonis.

The said Caputupanus/Paul/ is not really a bad chap. He's just got this wee thing about folk with academic or financial success.

Some describe Paul's type as having chips on their shoulders, but that is not always the case-indeed I believe it is often secret admiration which fuels the pens of those 'working class heroes' of our now classless society.

Jimmy Reid and Tommy Sheridan spring to mind, as does every other Union Leader who sold the common 5/8ths down the river for the price of wealth and comfort-OR a move into the scummery of politics.

When Caputupanus-who's a clever wee lad- grows up to be a big boy and achieves his own goals in life, he'll less resent the doctors who fixed the leg he shattered when he fell pished at the fitba and unsuccessfully tried to sue the Club despite it's brand new safety certificate.
mortonjag 2008-06-04 08:56:26
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 4 2008, 08:36 AM) [snapback]456082[/snapback]
an incredible £170 Billion
would that be different to an ordinary or standard £170 Billion ?

Colkitto, have the SNP TOTALLY committed to the establishment of such a fund following independence ?

I have been a supporter of the SNP since 1956 (Sam Shields was my grandfather) but, sadly, politicians are politicians.
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True

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 4 2008, 08:53 AM) [snapback]456088[/snapback]
Aye they would Newton. The Norwegian oil fund was only started just over 10 years ago and has amassed that incredible amount in that short time. Norway by 2010 will have an oil fund in excess of £250 Billion !
The Norwegians have safeguarded their financial future, and built an economy that for several years in a row puts them at the top of the UN's quality of life league table

We are only at the half way point of barrels recovered from the North Sea. We must follow the successful example set by Norway.
But the unionists don't want this for Scotland.......WHY ?



Who are those creatures Spurtle?

Are you not in the Jail today btw?
mortonjag 2008-06-04 08:59:45
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jun 4 2008, 08:18 AM) [snapback]456075[/snapback]
errm no - if you were indeed the same person then it means all of the comments about being an eminent Glasgow Physician would in fact be a load of rubbish... rolleyes.gif tongue.gif

Sometimes you truly confound me with logic.
mortonjag 2008-06-04 09:02:17
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Jun 4 2008, 07:15 AM) [snapback]456055[/snapback]
Oh alright then. "No, she went of her own accord"

You forgot the


BOOM F*CKIN' BOOM


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mortonjag 2008-06-04 09:08:23
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jun 4 2008, 08:47 AM) [snapback]456085[/snapback]
Use the attachment facility underneath the posting window when in Add Reply. Select the file with the Browse button, then when the file path is in the box, press the UPLOAD button to attach the picture to your next post.

Aye-I've managed to post photos before but it won't let me browse my files-it wants an 'URL'-what does that mean?
mortonjag 2008-06-04 09:29:38
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jun 4 2008, 09:10 AM) [snapback]456096[/snapback]
Flattery will get you nowhere...

That's what you said before-it wasn't flattery-it was amazement!
mortonjag 2008-06-04 09:32:52
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 4 2008, 08:22 AM) [snapback]456076[/snapback]
you did ask, mate ...
(a) Any fielder may
(i) polish the ball provided that no artificial substance is used and that such polishing wastes no time.
(ii) remove mud from the ball under the supervision of the umpire.
(iii) dry a wet ball on a towel.

(cool.gif It is unfair for anyone to rub the ball on the ground for any reason, interfere with any of the seams or the surface of the ball, use any implement, or take any other action whatsoever which is likely to alter the condition of the ball, except as permitted in (a) above.

© The umpires shall make frequent and irregular inspections of the ball.

(d) In the event of any fielder changing the condition of the ball unfairly, as set out in (cool.gif above, the umpires after consultation shall
(i) change the ball forthwith. It shall be for the umpires to decide on the replacement ball, which shall, in their opinion, have had wear comparable with that which the previous ball had received immediately prior to the contravention.
(ii) inform the batsmen that the ball has been changed.
(iii) award 5 penalty runs to the batting side. See 17 below.
(iv) inform the captain of the fielding side that the reason for the action was the unfair interference with the ball.
(v) inform the captain of the batting side as soon as practicable of what has occurred.
(vi) report the occurrence as soon as possible to the Executive of the fielding side and any Governing Body responsible for the match, who shall take such action as is considered appropriate against the captain and team concerned.

(e) If there is any further instance of unfairly changing the condition of the ball in that innings, the umpires after consultation shall
(i) repeat the procedure in (d)(i), (ii) and (iii) above.
(ii) inform the captain of the fielding side of the reason for the action taken and direct him to take off forthwith the bowler who delivered the immediately preceding ball. The bowler thus taken off shall not be allowed to bowl again in that innings.
(iii) inform the captain of the batting side as soon as practicable of what has occurred.
(iv) report this further occurrence as soon as possible to the Executive of the fielding side and any Governing Body responsible for the match, who shall take such action as is considered appropriate against the captain and team concerned.

......but what if both are muddy?
mortonjag 2008-06-04 09:48:05
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 4 2008, 09:12 AM) [snapback]456097[/snapback]
No idea mate, but if you do manage to findf a cheap one, look around to see if they have a second one with no brakes and throw MJ on it down a steep hill.

Jesus h f***ing christ, every f***ing thread since f*** knows what time this morning hijacked.
Ernie, c'mon to f***

You on Hyper pill's or something
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Hold on a minute Sir and hark to me-you're beginning to sound a wee bit serious about this.

Mortonjag probably starts more serious threads than any other poster and NEVER complains when they are 'hi-jacked'-not sure EXACTLY what that's meant to mean-but as often as not they are deliberately twisted, and the usual 'abuse the Jag' clowns make their sad comments which sometimes are abusive to the level of 'I hope you die a slow and painful death'.

Furthermore, to the great amusement of certain posters, Mortonjag's identity was bloody well hi-jacked a month ago. Tontastic said he'd investigate and I've had no explanation.

You are a grown up man with a responsible job, a partner, and a family-not a cyber clype Gibby.

Live and let live-and don't forget the wee huff button if all else fails.

Oh-and those hyper pills-nope-I didn't realise you were also wanting to legislate about the correct times to be posting! laugh.gif

Early to bed and early to rise makes a man healthy wealthy and WISE!

Try it-it works for me!

mortonjag 2008-06-04 11:48:27
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Jun 4 2008, 09:21 AM) [snapback]456098[/snapback]
'What are you listening to' is BY FAR the most inane and consequently popular thread ever.

It's just a bloody ego trips for the weans.

Three or four times I've incorporated a totally fake song and artist to 'test the water' and despite the rage for 'hitting' the Jag, they've all been too busy slevering over their keyboards-desperate to impress the rest with their particular brand of mass produced keech.

[attachment=4044:fishing.jpg]
Doctor Doom can't see the new venture taking of when your bait is just not up to scratch

Don't be silly I wasn't fishing-I meant every word of it.

'What are you listening to' caters for the 'follow my leader over the gangplank' mentality-it's even too daft for sheep.

I've noticed time after time that posters pay absolutely no heed to the previous input-it's all about image projection-I'm listening to the phrumpooglies-and I'm sure f*ckin with it-don't you think--and of course the next poster hasn't even read that cos he thinks the brodelglankz are better! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-04 11:54:24
QUOTE(centralTON @ Jun 4 2008, 10:05 AM) [snapback]456117[/snapback]
They're maybe trying to tell you something, MJ. tongue.gif

To be honest I don't think they're that well organised, and my brother and I are not renewing anyway!

Mind you it really WOULD be funny if they are that petty! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-04 12:00:53
QUOTE(cmdc @ Jun 4 2008, 09:54 AM) [snapback]456108[/snapback]
I still think you are overestimating the relative value of replacing the sponsor. Shirt and pitchside sponsorship is not a terribly easy thing to find in Inverclyde...Buchanan's/Golden Casket/Millions are big local brands, and for what the Rae's put in to the club, advertising their product is probably not too much of a concession...especially when Morton's viability is largely tied to the success of that business (and from the outside looking in, it does seem to be a fairly successful business). If, however, there was a whopping offer to take over the sponsorship, which was stubbornly refused, then that would be another matter, but given the relatively poor exposure given to the SFL, which itself struggled to find a sponsor, I would be pretty surprised if such an offer were to come along anytime soon. This is educated guesswork by the way, so if anyone has concrete evidence of this kind of offer being refused, I defer!

I've already said that sponsorship should only be switched if it will generate a significantly bigger income.I believe it can, and also believe that the highlighted text is largely a myth perpetuated by The current Club owners for reasons best known to themselves.

QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jun 4 2008, 11:11 AM) [snapback]456125[/snapback]
from GMFC accounts, £24K for shirt sponsorship - going rate in 1st division ???

It's not the going rate you should be looking at-it 's the potential market and that is a function of fanbase. We could do MUCH better IMO.
mortonjag 2008-06-04 12:04:18
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 4 2008, 09:35 AM) [snapback]456102[/snapback]
nae worries, mortonjag - as long as the umpire (or more correctly, one of the umpires) has his eye on them.

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If I had muddy balls I'd not be wanting umpires inspecting them.
mortonjag 2008-06-04 12:08:23
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 4 2008, 09:55 AM) [snapback]456109[/snapback]
Davie McArthur hates people referring to themselves in the third person.

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QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 4 2008, 09:55 AM) [snapback]456110[/snapback]
f*** me this Rod works tongue.gif

Never a bad word to say about ye in the past have i rolleyes.gif

Just wanted to see what the reaction would be to my previous post and try the new Rod wink.gif

And i knew that the mentioning of early morning posts would get your attention.

Happy Days wink.gif

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QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 4 2008, 10:53 AM) [snapback]456124[/snapback]
Hi mate. I take it you are talking about the guy from Lochwinnoch. Is that the hire place down by Castle Semple Loch. If so might take a trip there at the weekend. Thanks for the info.
Mate in work has his bike in today and it's a Stone River. Absolute belter.
Good point. Problem is i am skint just now. Looking to spend about £100-£120 tops i am afraid. So a couple of decent bikes in Halfords last week around my price range.
I still have some gear at my folks from my cycling days of old. Some of it still fits strangely enough. It does cost a bit to get all the bits 'n' bobs but it's worth it.
I know mate. Hijacking threads and totally changing the direction of them is my forte tongue.gif MJ trained me well laugh.gif

P.S. Hows the arm mate?

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mortonjag 2008-06-04 12:11:35 I never fancied this programme and the discovery that Mr Sugar perches on a high chair was the straw which broke de camel's back.

What is it with those little ones?
mortonjag 2008-06-04 12:13:35
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 4 2008, 11:22 AM) [snapback]456131[/snapback]
Oil reserves 'will last decades'

The North Sea has almost as much oil left as has already been extracted, a BBC Scotland investigation has been told.
Experts believe between 25 and 30 billion barrels could still be recovered over the next 40 years.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/7435016.stm

Excellent-Mortonjag won't.
mortonjag 2008-06-09 13:11:22 Weer bak-hee tuke uz two sane tandruse phorrah phew daze.

Eye ixpekt heel bee uptu hys nawnsinse kwite sune sew eye fot eye shood warren ewe ol



(sined Munx)

pee ess-a noat phawr deego an poart tawn-eye am pritty shooer hee shagda feemail-inn thi carry vanne-itt waws bowencing uppe an dowen an fing sez hee herd skweels- butte hee denise itt vigrislie
mortonjag 2008-06-09 13:51:55
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 9 2008, 01:37 PM) [snapback]457874[/snapback]
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eye amm sew gladde ewe phynde it phunny two-eye fawt foke wood maika fule oph mee lyke thai doo wif hymn.

thi hole eye deer oph mye dadde scroo wing ennyfing letta owen ah reel feemail wazza joak untyl yisturdai aphturnune-

whawtah chainge inn hymn---heze nivir stopt smylynge awl dai-an ewe shood hav scene hur two-shee hadde mawnstris titz an kwite ah nyse bumme.

Fing laffed att hur woodin legge whitch eye fink iz raphur crule.
mortonjag 2008-06-09 15:27:02
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 9 2008, 03:13 PM) [snapback]457895[/snapback]
laugh.gif Glad to see the good doc is enjoying himself wink.gif



Gude dock mye baksyde weegy-eye mite az wel blo thi whissel awn hymn wunce an fawrawl-heze notta dawktur-heeza belle gin dworph wipha chippe awn hys showldir-heze bean masky raiding azza medsin manne whenne heze reely jista kowboye


ennywaze eye will haphtu dizzy peer prawn toe awr heel fynde owt eye hav bean awn an awl helwil brake lewse.

fanx phawr listnyng


(sined Munx) xx
mortonjag 2008-06-09 16:08:03
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 9 2008, 03:56 PM) [snapback]457914[/snapback]
You stated that you did not want Scotland dominated by a home counties agenda, a reasonable point to make, economic power is most often centralised, in Scotland the economic power in the central belt would dictate that Border and Highland interests would be subordinated to the interests of the central belt.
Troll?
This is a troll
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDThe one eyed man is King in the country of the blind.
mortonjag 2008-06-09 16:10:06
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 9 2008, 03:33 PM) [snapback]457908[/snapback]
Its gone very quiet! Not even a decent rumour floating about. To be fair, its not obviosu that many clubs are doing much just now either except for Dundee and Ross County. When are we likely to see our promised Goallie and striker?

Oh ye of little faith.
mortonjag 2008-06-09 16:26:09 Somebody, it would seem, has hi-jacked Mortonjag's identity AGAIN. The Monkey has been thoroughly interrogated and flatly denies all responsibility for those scurrilous allegations.

Moreover, some saddo has been spying on Mortonjag-he was indeed away at a caravan in St Andrews for a few days-the rest is a tissue of lies, and he needs deego and port-ton to believe that.

Furthermore, he did not like the bit about 'belle gin dworphs'-somebody is clearly trying to stir up a hornet's nest.

Mortonjag was, is, and always will be an energetic creature, but stops short at shagging folk with prosthetic limbs.

Doubtless some sad poster will attempt to ridicule this earnest disclaimer- Mortonjag has come to expect disrespectful mince from the losers who populate those forums.

That is not specifically aimed at Professor Piehole.
mortonjag 2008-06-09 16:32:53 Mortonjag always purchases a 'take away' curry from the Turban Tandoori in Giffnock on a Saturday evening.

That is all.
mortonjag 2008-06-09 16:39:06
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 9 2008, 04:29 PM) [snapback]457929[/snapback]
you gave me a headache trying to read that, i hope you can prescribe with some pills and a little TLC to make me feel better. smile.gif


I have to confess it was a damned good attempt to copy Munx's style, but there were a couple of dead give aways. 'Woodin legge' for example instead of gammy legge.


QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 9 2008, 04:30 PM) [snapback]457930[/snapback]
[attachment=4069:Spoon.jpg]

laugh.gif laugh.gif

I know Weegie-Munx and I would love to identify the owner of that woodin spune.
mortonjag 2008-06-09 16:49:32
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jun 8 2008, 11:30 AM) [snapback]457539[/snapback]
Just back from the States yesterday so just catching up.
I have tears dripping down my face, honestly - tears dripping.
Easily one of the best threads in ages. Let me summarise.

An allegedly inflammatory article about us Scots was posted. It incorrectly attributed anti-Scottish feelings to a senior politician. That same politician has taken the time to answer one of this message board's more discerning visitors with a prompt and accurate summation of what he really said. So no real story at all.

Geordie hates MJ. Geordie hates Tom. Tom disnae care. MJ is disdainful of pretty much everybody so he really disnae care. Geordie, despite protestations to the contrary is not a dwarf, or a midget. He is kinda small though. Paul is now an ardent Orangeman if rumpurs are to be believed. Paul disnae care cos he's one of the few who actually treat MJ and Tom the way he likes - either sit up and take notice or hit back with abuse/scorn/ridicule/facts/apathy (delete as appropriate). Some combination of Geordie/Andy and anybody else that didn't object to Paul's description of Keith V are closet racists if Tom's to be believed. On next week's episode of Soap .........

Most importantly - this article, and about another five or six I've just caught up on, are further examples of the Nationalist rhetoric that's turning off the "don't knows" in droves. Why, I'd be for self determination and they're starting to make me think twice. So this is your democracy - be silent or agree with me.

As I said the first Nationalist that takes part in an informed debate on here about health, education, taxation, infrastructure, defence, welfare etc etc will have my undying respect and a healthy sparring partner for his/her corner.

Till then - I'll just keep reading these and entertaining myself - oh, and to all combatants on this thread, "bravo, encore une fois".

TonInDublin


It's really very difficult to know how to describe him now without hurting his feelings. May I propose 'Our fellow fan in Brussels, who is of a certain height'?


QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 8 2008, 11:50 AM) [snapback]457541[/snapback]
That's an awful thing to say Johnny Boy, I don't hate anyone on here.

They wouldn't be top of my 'guys I'd like to have a beer with' list, that's true, but I certainly don't hate them.

And you don't know me and you've never even met me, therefore you're not qualified to comment on my medical condition. tongue.gif

Also, the 'anti-Scottish' quotes were from Steven Ladyman and not Kieth Vaz, although the article did imply that Vaz wanted Jack Straw appointed as Deputy Prime Minister because he's English - which Vaz denied was the case.

But I think Steven Ladyman's quotes could reasonably be called 'anti-Scottish'.



Nobody accorded TiD the same courtesy when he was concerned about having a BIG prostate-or should that be 'a prostate of a certain size'?
mortonjag 2008-06-09 16:52:35 Animal from the Muppet Show is far and away the drummer who has entertained me most over the years.
mortonjag 2008-06-09 16:59:53
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 9 2008, 04:50 PM) [snapback]457940[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Imagine losing Scotland from the UK under the watch of a Tory government ohmy.gif

You must be shaking in you're shoes at the prospect Tom tongue.gif

While you're on Spurtle, I spoke to an experienced teacher yesterday-NOT Mr Bam!

I asked an open question- what do you think of the S.N.P. after a year in power. Her face screwed up in anger-'Bigger class sizes and a significant reduction in staffing in OUR department (English in Stirling BTW).

That came straight from the horse's mouth. I always listen to folk at the coal face. It's much more revealing than relying on the Media, though I do appreciate that some folk require significant spin to make things fit their ideals.
mortonjag 2008-06-09 17:04:42
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 9 2008, 04:45 PM) [snapback]457936[/snapback]
You mean you couldn't understand it?? unsure.gif rolleyes.gif

Heze ah byt gellus oph mye munky-phatzol.
mortonjag 2008-06-09 17:13:43 A serious question. Many folk have excellent business ideas but just can't get the start up cash for numerous reasons.

WDE, for example, has been talking about a potential venture in recent weeks.

I'm looking for an idea which wouldn't involve any 'unsociable hours'-possibly even one which would involve mainly working from home.

Most of all I'm interested in something that's either completely new or has just 'taken off' and looks good.

Any attempt to hi-jack this thread will be dealt with by fing.
mortonjag 2008-06-09 17:27:22
QUOTE(Last Boat Home @ Jun 7 2008, 04:26 AM) [snapback]457251[/snapback]
Decent enough guy with very nice parents, hope he can sort himself out -shows you that the drugs can f*** any family. Would be a good gesture if Morton did something to support a drugs charity type thing!


f***in' miracle!


QUOTE(piehutt @ Jun 7 2008, 08:29 AM) [snapback]457263[/snapback]
If I lost a bird to Nacho Novo I'd probably get right on the drugs as well!


You'd need to get one first piehole! laugh.gif


QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Jun 8 2008, 02:04 PM) [snapback]457578[/snapback]
I don't think it is Novo's fault that Matheson ended up on drugs, what a load of crap. Stealing his girlfriend and getting him wound up the way he did is a pretty low thing to do to a so called friend, absolutely. But betrayal in that way happens to other people and they don't all end up turning to Class A drugs, he would have got into it some other way. To blame that particular weakness on Novo is just dumb.

I know Matheson comes from a good family, and everyone deserves a second chance, but to blame an addiction on somebody who nicked his girlfriend a few years ago now? Ridiculous.


Spot on.


QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 8 2008, 04:56 PM) [snapback]457648[/snapback]
Hmm, the guy's just an ordinary bloke. Don't really think he'd appreciate being the subject of a debate on a football messageboard.

Just my opinion though.


He might appreciate a bit of understanding Boozie-the boy's clearly got a problem and it's time folk opened their bloody eyes to addictive ILLNESS.


QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jun 9 2008, 04:49 PM) [snapback]457938[/snapback]
You guys just took the words out of my mouth.
Ross is well known in the area and this thread's a bit unsavoury, not the story, it's happened, just the dissecting of it and, yeah as said, it's like a debate or something?


As I commented to BH-threads like this will always be unsavoury so long as folk can't grasp the concept of addiction as an illness.

For what it's worth, it's daft blaming an ILLNESS on the fact that somebody 'stole your bird', though stressful life events can often be pinpointed as trigger factors for full blown addictive behaviour.
mortonjag 2008-06-09 17:32:44
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 9 2008, 05:27 PM) [snapback]457956[/snapback]
She is probably a Labour party member or voter.... rolleyes.gif

She is my daughter in law, and believe it or not, has voted S.N.P. several times in the past-mainly because 'I'd NEVER vote Tory or Labour'!!!!! wink.gif

If you like I can find out the full details, though I suspect some of our resident schoolteachers may be seeing a mirror of her experience
mortonjag 2008-06-09 17:47:28
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 9 2008, 05:41 PM) [snapback]457959[/snapback]
If neither of you know then it must surely have been Fing wink.gif

fing's not arrived back from St Andrews-he's on the Kawasaki-could he have logged on to another computer and done such mischief-I know he's on a bit of a cloud nine after a very successful 'hit' on the 'Old Course', but I doubt he'd stoop so low Puggs.

Personally I think it was Professor Piehole on the water bed with an old 'Wee Red Book'.
mortonjag 2008-06-09 17:56:35
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 9 2008, 05:34 PM) [snapback]457958[/snapback]
I work with independent retailers mainly although I have managed a couple of national accounts over the years and I believe that it's not the idea but the delivery that brings in the cash.

Ideas we've had 'em since Eve first met Adam
But take it from me execution's the key.

Thanks Davie-I guess that's true. Assuming, however, that the delivery side of things is already proven, some ideas are surely much more attractive that others.

No point in investing cash in a hugely competitive and relatively saturated market, and of course, we're in the jaws of a credit squeeze. Any ideas for profiting from a credit squeeze?

Oh and a point of correction-Eve didn't meet Adam-she evolved from him-OK God got it done ultra quick, but it was still a case of him saying-now go and f*ck yourself.

Pity about that serpent mind you-I can hear it hiss as I type.
mortonjag 2008-06-09 18:04:07
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 9 2008, 05:47 PM) [snapback]457962[/snapback]
Where have you been recently?

If I tell you, please don't spread it!

The story is that we nipped over to St Andrews for a few days' sunshine, but in truth I had a highly confidential top secret coded message from Mr Rae last week.

I finally managed to decipher after hours of effort, the simple line-'Go to f*ck'. Douglas never let's one down-I'd have said 'get tae'.

Anyway-I always have a f*ckin' good time in the East Neuk, so Dougie's prompt was just the ticket!
mortonjag 2008-06-09 18:12:18
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 9 2008, 06:02 PM) [snapback]457971[/snapback]
I need an updated list of your names for everyone...is that piehutt?

One and the same- a true gentleman in reality I'm led to believe-there again so is Mortonjag! sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-09 18:45:10
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jun 9 2008, 06:14 PM) [snapback]457977[/snapback]
Hmmm. Very one dimensional too, though MJ,



unsure.gif I've got an 'animal' puppet at home-I love that guy so much I once asked Terry's if they could tattoo one on my arse but the price was outrageous, and I settled for a wee saltire instead!

QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 9 2008, 06:20 PM) [snapback]457981[/snapback]
The real skill in a drummer is how well he fits into a band. Some of the drum solos listed show enormous technique but no soul. The best drummer depends on the type of music you are listening to. If you like rock try this Ginger Baker solo on the Cream reunion with Clapton and Bruce.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVqvNKsPKUM

If you like Jazz/Big Band how about Gene Krupa or Buddy Rich? See

http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/buddyrichkrupabattle.html


That's very true, and none so great as Animal IMHO.
mortonjag 2008-06-09 18:51:23
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jun 9 2008, 06:16 PM) [snapback]457978[/snapback]
I don't want to comment on addiction or illness.

I'm commenting on picking through a local guys life and offering up opinions on it like it's some sort of disertation.

Would you prefer folks' opinions to be muffled?
mortonjag 2008-06-09 19:02:51
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 9 2008, 06:56 PM) [snapback]457993[/snapback]
ae.

Didn't you mean 'Yours aye' darling?
mortonjag 2008-06-10 05:05:16
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 9 2008, 07:59 PM) [snapback]458032[/snapback]
Awayeauld barsteward. Whitthefukinhell war ye daen in pruncewully teritory?? Onytotty? Noabitupmerketfurye?

laugh.gif

QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jun 9 2008, 08:49 PM) [snapback]458050[/snapback]
Aye and there's a lot of tired sheep in the East Neuk this week then.

Sheep, like silly little message board posters, are attracted to Mortonjag like moths to a candle flame.

Unable to resist his fatal charm, they inevitably fall prey to his hungry desire.

Shoots eats and leaves.


Baa Baa black sheep, have you any wool
Yes Sir, yes Sir, three bags full.
One for the Master, and one for the Dame
Is that you finished Sir-I'm glad you came.
mortonjag 2008-06-10 05:27:28
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jun 4 2008, 03:04 PM) [snapback]456193[/snapback]
I was ad-libbing from a line from Andy M on the original EGM thread, the one before MJ decided he actually was interested and subsequently shat on it.

I got the detail slightly wrong, what Andy said was 1M shares at 75p, Golden Casket expected to take up a fifth of the shares.

What the f*ck are you blabbering about again Cawstick?

Anyhow, it's five days down the line and nobody seems to have a Scooby about Alistair Donald, so I'm going to stick out my neck and suggest that he's very keen to own the club and Shoogly-stubborn old fool as usual -has said something along the lines of-


Alistair, I'm more than willing to sell this 'excellent old club' with its fine tradition- which I have been supporting 'with my heart on my sleeve' since I was 'knee high to Arthur Montford' -for 'the right price', but I'm afraid ten million is nowhere NEAR a fair valuation....... though I'll let you have it for nine million provided I retain the 'casting vote' on all matters, and the May Hughes Dancers are still allowed to 'dance', and I want those parachutists to descend again at our opening game this season to celebrate the meticulous planning which was the hallmark of last season's efforts and totally down to myself as the fans will tell you 'man for man', though good Rangers chap as you are, you must confess that Celtic fans are 'a joy to behold', bringing as they do tears to this old man's eyes.
mortonjag 2008-06-10 05:35:02
QUOTE(Stuart Duncan @ Jun 2 2008, 11:50 PM) [snapback]455539[/snapback]
Maybe now people will realise that we don't represent all the fans, we couldn't possibly. But we have said that over and over again. If I'm repeating myself its in the forlorn hope that people will get the message. If they want the Trust to represent them they have to join.

We have received a question from a member regarding Mr Donald and we will take action on behalf of that member.

If people don't want to lift their head above the parapet that's fine. I understand that. But any correspondence we get from a member is dealt with in confidence. What that member choses to do with any answers they may get to questions is entirely up to them.



Eight days on Stuart-may I ask if you were able to answer the member's question?
mortonjag 2008-06-10 05:39:54
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jun 7 2008, 08:45 AM) [snapback]457264[/snapback]
Yes - and we all know how scientific polls on here are.

Most of that was prob Deego and MJ using their multiple aliases.

But - unlike him, I am not a wind up merchant. I just like a bit of debate.



That beats port-ton's 'his arse fits my hand like a glove'.

You are now leading the competition for Mortonjag's selection of 'most ridiculously funny post of the year'.
mortonjag 2008-06-10 05:53:03
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Jun 9 2008, 10:30 PM) [snapback]458112[/snapback]
Would one of the mods like to clear up once and for all what is going on with this Mortonjag identity? The negative, pompous bollocks was bad enough but now that it seems like a whole bunch of spanners are taking turns under this label to post utter s***e it's become far more irritating.

You don't often make much sense, but Mortonjag concurs an thi munky agrease two an sez itz notte wirth getynge offal irry taitibel abowt ennyfing.

Lyfe, hee sez iz lyke ah mini chewer stik oph brussilz rok-phar two shawrt! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-10 06:03:08
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 9 2008, 07:29 PM) [snapback]458011[/snapback]
The only party pledging lower class sizes is the SNP. Neither Labour or their coalition partners the Lib-Dems would have introduced the scheme if they had got back into power.

The SNP have pledged to lower class sizes over the term of the parliament. They have only been in power a year. A bit early to critisize rolleyes.gif


I wasn't criticising Spurtle-I merely offered a point of factual information to which you responded with a quotation from SNP 'pledges'. I know which I prefer to trust.


QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 9 2008, 10:48 PM) [snapback]458119[/snapback]
MJ, looks like the SNP government spends more on the NHS also... rolleyes.gif

[b]NHS in England spends £400 less per patient than Scotland as 'health apartheid' widens[/b]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10...eid-widens.html

"Scots enjoy nearly £400 a year each more taxpayer spending on health and social care than people in England, an official breakdown showed today"


As you very well know Spurtle that was a piece of spin on behalf of England-demonstrating yet again how it has to subsidise those unhealthy c*nts north of the border.

It has NOTHING whatsoever to do with Sturgeon's outrageously irresponsible frittering of available cash.

It's amazing the resemblance between the new GMFC and the new SNP!

Need I say more? mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-10 06:13:00
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jun 9 2008, 08:54 PM) [snapback]458055[/snapback]
what about a web design company?

Is that market not already pretty saturated?

QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 9 2008, 09:42 PM) [snapback]458083[/snapback]
Loan shark?


Indeed Davie-my son has already suggested a 'cheque clearing' shop, but that truly goes against my principles-I don't want to rip off poor folk.


QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 9 2008, 10:11 PM) [snapback]458106[/snapback]
you'd make an excellent call girl!


I know that darling but it's very labour intensive, and no doubt you and the deeglet would want to cut yourselves in!

QUOTE(tontastic @ Jun 9 2008, 11:24 PM) [snapback]458137[/snapback]
Oooooooooo... host internet forums for nothing ... you'd be raking the dosh in!!!


rolleyes.gif Pleading poverty again! Everybody knows Tontastic's loaded.


QUOTE(piehutt @ Jun 9 2008, 11:30 PM) [snapback]458139[/snapback]
Given we are currently entering recession and most small businesses fail pretty sharpish - then don't bother.

But personally I'd go for installing hands free kits into cars. Assuming you don't need to buy a van / car, �100,000 should get you started easilly enough. Could move onto sat nav's, cd players, most kind of electrical things in cars.

Other big growth markets are wind turbines, but you'd need a far bigger outlay - even to start off with things on peoples houses etc. And some handy contacts with suppliers / installers etc.

Then there's always betterware or avon.


I can't decide whether or not that was an intended wind up Piehole, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say from the heart of my bottom-thank you! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-10 06:22:22
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jun 8 2008, 10:09 PM) [snapback]457763[/snapback]
My new wife saw and heard an orange band passing our house for the first time a few weeks ago. She thought it was a funeral procession...no joking.

How does one explain to a newcomer to the country what these people stand for ?

You don't need the pink words!
mortonjag 2008-06-10 06:29:31 05/06/08

Hello

Here is the latest picture of the seeded area down the standside.





What a differance a week makes.

A combination of warm weather, daily watering and an organic base fertilizer has lead to this fantastic result. (i.e Turkey manure " smells lovely".)

Thanks

Mark Farrell.


And a big thanks to you Mark-you put the rest of them to shame-FFS if you can access the site to update us on the pitch, why does nobody else EVER speak to us in the closed season except when they have to and we already know anyway! dry.gif .
mortonjag 2008-06-10 06:35:42 Happy birthday-have a belter! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-10 06:49:48 Union punishes MPs for ‘contempt’-from today's 'Herald'.




One of Britain's biggest trade unions yesterday reacted to the "contempt" with which workers are treated by the government by withdrawing financial support from six Labour MPs it said were not doing enough to support union policies.

The GMB, which has 600,000 members, named the first six of 35 Labour MPs it will refuse to support at the next General Election
.


The poor Gopher doesn't have his troubles to seek right now!


GIRUY you effin bandwagon jumping turd. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-10 08:22:50 Anybody know anything about laser teeth whitening?
mortonjag 2008-06-10 08:31:23
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jun 7 2008, 10:50 PM) [snapback]457406[/snapback]
I actually read the article properly after reading your post and the whole thing's laughable.

I watched every game Coakley played for Morton, including friendlies, and he was absolutely woeful. The stand out game was the Arthurlie friendly. You'd think a guy like Coakley who's looking for a contract, has a bit of pedigree ( Scotland Under 18s, former Motherwell) would take advantage of a game against a junior team and impress by scoring a couple of goals but he couldn't. He was that weak, slow and ineffectual against junior defenders that it was embarrassing.

His Dad is loaded and has obviously paid for a top agent to manage his affairs. It's also a bit of a coincidence that Adam ended up at two of the clubs his Dad played for in the past - especially considering the rumours that Jim McInally didn't want Coakley but Douglas Rae insisted.
laugh.gif Incredible.



JM's been in contact with the Jag to ghost write his new book entitled


'I wasn't up for it'.
mortonjag 2008-06-10 08:57:45
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 10 2008, 08:27 AM) [snapback]458175[/snapback]
No it's not, they pledged lower sizes but fixed a settlement with councils that has involved too little money to deliver on their pledge, ask any teacher, there have been significant financial cutbacks. All of the directors of education in Scotland agree that the Essen Pee have not delivered the cash needed to match their pledge.

That begs a very serious question Mr Bam.

Do they REALLY know what they are talking about, and can they REALLY be trusted with our money?

Sturgeon's gone for popularity-totally flying in the face of advice and perceived wisdom more often than not-I can say that because I speak to real people in the know, and because I understand the NHS.

Looks like they are f*cking up Education big style too.

Not a bad start for a shower of inexperienced women dancing to the tune of a power crazed gambler-eh? blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-10 09:03:30 I would happily donate blood but it's against my religion! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-10 09:07:13
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jun 10 2008, 09:04 AM) [snapback]458186[/snapback]
costs about £99 a session i think an theres quite a few sessions, might be wrong

TY-do you think it would be a good business venture?
mortonjag 2008-06-10 10:32:32
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jun 10 2008, 09:04 AM) [snapback]458186[/snapback]
costs about £99 a session i think an theres quite a few sessions, might be wrong
web design company depends, big cities are but in scotland its mainly situated in Glasgow adn Edi, i think theres one maybe 2 in greenock an about the same in paisley. But theres always people looking to have sites built wether it be quick and easy ones or big professional ones. Im hoping that after this week i finish my HNC so i can do some small sites, Then after the summer next year with HND i will know more about databases so can go on and do bigger proffessional sites. Hopefully get into a company for a few years or have one with a few people from college.



I think that line of business is too specialised but good luck to you.

QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jun 10 2008, 09:13 AM) [snapback]458189[/snapback]
dunno really, lots of young girls maybe a few guys are getting obsessed with their looks, so theres always gonna be a market. but then again, could they afford it :S
http://www.goddessspa.co.uk/treatment_teeth.html
the spa my gf's aunt works in does teeth whitening, not sure if its laser, heres the link anyway


Thanks for that link-very interesting indeed!
mortonjag 2008-06-10 10:42:52
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 10 2008, 09:24 AM) [snapback]458191[/snapback]
Nothing ilke gross over-reaction ! You can't say the SNP government has failed to deliver after ONE year.

They made a manifesto pledge to reduce class sizes over the term of the parliament. No other party committed to that pledge, so give them credit where it's due rather than knee-jerk over-reaction.



I CAN say that the writing appears to be on the wall! There's not even a grain of improvement-which most folk could accept as a step towards the pledge they made.

The simple truth appears to be that they haven't a f*cking clue on the majority of important issues and they are literally playing it by ear, which I find both disappointing and sad. I was happy when they got in-you will claim I'm lying-I'm NOT.

When a daft wee lassie like Nickerless refuses to listen to the voices of experience, that's enough for me. They are playing at being politicians, and are frankly an embarrassment. Bawheid is primarily interested in feathering his own nest-in that respect he's no different, and certainly no better than the usual keech we've come to expect at Holyrood.
mortonjag 2008-06-10 10:46:58
QUOTE(dazed @ Jun 10 2008, 09:51 AM) [snapback]458202[/snapback]
Dont you own the copyright on that?? rolleyes.gif

NOPE!


tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-10 10:55:06
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 8 2008, 03:51 PM) [snapback]457618[/snapback]
Jag, you got a ballpark figure you're looking for?


Not really thought about it-as I said I'd consider any offers which weren't plain daft-the guitar alone's probably well worth a couple of hundred pounds (I paid almost £400), so add the amp, 'phones and keyboard and if I was selling off the Ton site I'd certainly be looking at £250 minimum.

To a 'good home', I might be tempted to take less.
mortonjag 2008-06-10 11:00:36
QUOTE(se65an @ Jun 10 2008, 10:56 AM) [snapback]458225[/snapback]
All these 2p are adding up.

2p or not 2p-that is the question-what does one have to do in order to make one of those mickles which mak a muckle? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-10 11:03:47
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jun 10 2008, 10:53 AM) [snapback]458222[/snapback]
if i come across anymore links i'll pass them on

Cheers-the £99 for ten minutes brought a big cheesy smile to my decrepit coupon. Surely that's a misprint! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-10 11:36:17
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 10 2008, 11:29 AM) [snapback]458247[/snapback]
Aye he's good at spreading it blink.gif

I prefer the term dissemination HT-it sounds much more suggestive, and please don't grass me to the Mods.
mortonjag 2008-06-10 11:48:20
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 10 2008, 10:52 AM) [snapback]458220[/snapback]
Ok, then rather than grump and groan about it, tell me what's the alternative to the SNP ? I ask as you seem to be making daily attacks on them.
I was shocked and stunned you actually have made A post on Gordon Brown. Somone who has made a bigger c*** of things. But he has one solitary post to your numerous posts attacking the SNP.
As far as I'm aware you don't even vote anymore....says it all.

I can grump and groan about it as long as I like Spurtle-that's my prerogative, and puts me under no obligation WHATSOEVER to suggest an alternative. I criticise them regularly in the same way as I criticise Rae-another example of power without experience or responsibility, and have already mentioned the similarities between GMFC and the SNP UNDER Bawheid.

Please don't try to undermine my criticism of Gordon the Gopher to score cheap points-all politicians are keech in my book-I'd just hoped for a better quality of keech from the SNP-is that unreasonable?

QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 10 2008, 11:20 AM) [snapback]458242[/snapback]
They don't, they proposed bringing all P1-3 classes down to 20 pupils, they figured in the costs of this as being extra teachers, they forgot that extra classrooms would be needed. e.g. My local primary has aout 90 pupils in P1, this equates to 3 classes, 3 teachers and 3 rooms.
The Essen Pee want 20 in a class max, that's five classes, five teachers and 5 rooms. The rooms don't exist, they will have to be built, no money is provided for the building.

My own authority has serious problems in most of it's schools which run at capacity, in some cases the new sizes have meant that pupils are unlikely to get into their local primary in August, when this was pointed out to Bawheid's boys they whined that the class size reduction was just an aspiration.
Liars! It's your policy and you're telling authorities to implement it.
Under Labour (and it sticks in my craw to say it) education has been well managed, power has been devolved to local authorities and the old days of rule by ministerial fiat had gone.

Under the Essen Pee? mad.gif
Fiona Hyslop couldnae run a sweetie shop.

Well at least Mr Rae CAN run a sweetie factory! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-10 11:58:57
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 10 2008, 11:02 AM) [snapback]458228[/snapback]
Is there not any products on the market that can whiten teeth without paying a small fortune for it to get done.

There are Weegie!

QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 10 2008, 11:06 AM) [snapback]458233[/snapback]
It's cheaper up in Anderston, allegedly tongue.gif


Not with Simone! unsure.gif


QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 10 2008, 11:15 AM) [snapback]458238[/snapback]
Cleaning

Cleaning Wheelie Bins

Window Cleaning



Indeed, but too labour intensive for me!

QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 10 2008, 11:18 AM) [snapback]458240[/snapback]
don't discount something outdoors, maybe even miles from an electricity outlet and without a wifi signal.

how about counting st kilda sheep for a few years?

Thank ewe

QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 10 2008, 11:45 AM) [snapback]458252[/snapback]
If you are interested in teeth then there is a company in Dundee- "I. D. & M. Ltd" which has either just went under or about to go under. They claim to have a portable non-invasive system that can detect cavities at a very early stage providing full mapping of the dental area. Being cynical maybe the dentists don't want it as it will "eat" into their future margins by providing preventative measures. Maybe you can set up a rescue bid?

Don't try to beat a dentist when it comes to ripping folk off making money!

QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jun 10 2008, 11:46 AM) [snapback]458253[/snapback]
I have several ideas I think could be huge money making efforts but don't have the kahoonas to go after.

The secret to a lot of business success is the ability to constantly generate reveneue and one of the ideas I have in particualr (involves the security of children) would be a continual money spinner, a community winner, a government dream (would involve adding funds to policing !) and is something no parent would not part dosh for. The technology behind it is already available, and needs minor modifications if any to make it good to go. This could also be used by women, or indeed anyone who feels vulnerable to attack.

However, in the spirit of something I haven't invested a few thoughts of my own in, there HAS to be a huge market in a product men could safely use to remove facial hair. I need to shave every day for work and it is a complete pain in the rocks. I know that female hair removal products are too sensitive for extensive facial hair removal - but imagine never having to shave and applying a cream that would do the job for you - leaving baby smooth skin and doing the business for you for a couple of weeks.

I had also thought that with the burgeoning market in personal grooming that there are enough dafties out there who would spring for designer toothbrushes - custom made to suit your own personal mouth set up - angles, heights etc. Again, with a 3 month change out it ticks the repeat business box, and as a niche prodcut attracts a premium for minimal outlay. Indeed given that there will be a finite number of types of mouths, it becomes volume do-able whilst maintaining the "prescription" specific aspect that attracts those easily parted with theire dosh. Add in a fancy-dan container or such like to hold it and you could really be on the pigs back.

I sometimes have too much time on my hands ......

TonInDublin


Indeed TiD but you'd have to go through all the development, patents etc.

I'm just looking to home in on a burgeoning market-I think the teeth whitening thing would make some money if done properly-vanity is a huge growth industry those days! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-10 12:12:12
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 10 2008, 12:01 PM) [snapback]458265[/snapback]
If you are genuinely serious about this then PM me. My wife has an excellent idea which coupled with your expertise (I can't believe I have written that blink.gif ) and my better half's qualifications, know-how and market knowledge would in my opinion make a good return.

Will do!

QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 10 2008, 12:03 PM) [snapback]458266[/snapback]
Don't write this off Jag but I know a lot of people who do a roaring trade doing Avon. I for one would be a customer.

My partners's friend confirms that.

QUOTE(Yoda @ Jun 10 2008, 12:07 PM) [snapback]458268[/snapback]
Anything to do with child care. The government are throwing money at it, some agencies will actually pay to have your premises converted then rent them back from you. With the DSS now "encouraging" single mothers to return to work anyone entering into this will have a licence to print money. In certain cases monies are even available for new build premises which are then rented back from the owners Mon - Fri leaving an empty hall for use outwith childcare times. Looked into it for my work place but the existing building would have to be converted beyond the use of my clients and would have been better done before previous refurbs - but that was before my time. Enterprise Child Care are the folk to talk to in the Inverclyde area. I believe that the Sportscentre struck quite a nice deal with them for an unused hall.


Interesting too- a lot of organisation and supervision mind!
mortonjag 2008-06-10 12:26:50
QUOTE(Yoda @ Jun 10 2008, 12:19 PM) [snapback]458271[/snapback]
I think you misunderstand, they organise the refurb, they run the facility, they provide the staff, you bank the rental money! No participation is required from the premises owner, shame I can't use the template where I work, like I say a licence to print money (for old rope) and other naff phrases.

You could rent fing out as an hired assasin, there may be quite a few takers. For a couple of bananas and a week in sane tandrus you could literally make a killing!

laugh.gif

Why can't they just use existing premises?
mortonjag 2008-06-10 12:32:49
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 10 2008, 11:03 AM) [snapback]458230[/snapback]
Think I will be on the bench at the start anyway mate. In fact i might be the bench laugh.gif


As long as you're not the stool!
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 10 2008, 12:22 PM) [snapback]458272[/snapback]
Got a few weeks to recover mate. In fact already made plans, got a bed booked in the IRH.



You've just been reported to wee Nickerless.

mortonjag 2008-06-10 13:23:16
QUOTE(SJ76 @ Jun 10 2008, 12:54 PM) [snapback]458287[/snapback]
Another valid point ignored because Mortonjag raised it.

wink.gif

There's less of an anti -Jag culture than in previous seasons-thankfully it has not become perennial!

Oh and GMFC.net is kerrrrrrrrrap!
mortonjag 2008-06-10 13:29:22
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jun 5 2008, 12:21 PM) [snapback]456596[/snapback]
That explains a lot about your postings. Does your head still hurt much?

Listen to me Ratarse-my postings are brand new-if you can't understand them I'm unsurprised.

QUOTE(VaderTON @ Jun 10 2008, 01:16 PM) [snapback]458306[/snapback]
Just read the tele and it seems that wee spud has chucked the dummy oot his pram becuase of the season ticket change. Now after reading the segment, should he not have complained to the gorenment? after all it was they who changed the legislation on disability issues...TBH I aint ever had time for the wee guy, dont care how much 'charidee' work he's done. Call me cynical but when someone or somebody changes the goal posts, find out who made the rules, not just go for the ones who are compliant with them....he's probably not the only one to think like he did, But I cant help thinkin he's just pettin his lip hopin for some special attention. Well you got it from me...stop yer whinging!!! dry.gif



Who, pray, is this baby potato in our midst? ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-10 13:32:33
QUOTE(Mr Toon @ Jun 10 2008, 12:55 PM) [snapback]458289[/snapback]
From today's Telegraph

'Meanwhile, Ton-target goalkeeper Stephen Robertson has re-signed with Airdrie United after it was confirmed that the New Broomfield club would be playing First Division football next season.
I have very good friends who are Airdrie Season Ticket holders. They said Robertson is a 'great shot stopper' but is poor coming for crosses and terrible dealing with pass-backs.

So I'm not too disappointed that we have not signed him!

In the SECOND division, and we were chasing him?
mortonjag 2008-06-10 13:35:23
QUOTE(Yoda @ Jun 10 2008, 12:35 PM) [snapback]458279[/snapback]
It would be incredibly unworkable, the business is too established in what it does for the clients to be disrupted by soft ball areas and sand pits. Not to mention I can imagine the clients having more fun than the weans with some of their toys!!!! Total refurb would mean having to close down, and even if that were viable financially, it may never recover if my client got out of the habit of using the facility. As there is no good time to close it's on the back burner for now - until another opportunity comes along - they always do.

Cheers Yoda-that's one to be kept in mind.
mortonjag 2008-06-10 13:39:25
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 10 2008, 12:38 PM) [snapback]458281[/snapback]
Can you reccomend any?

No-only because I haven't tried them!

QUOTE(crgadams @ Jun 10 2008, 12:53 PM) [snapback]458286[/snapback]
M.J. I think these laser, teeth whitening places are pretty open to litigation. I think they can, if not done properly, wreck the teeth’s enamel, which causes the teeth to turn a greyish colour in the months following the treatment. I am pretty sure that there is some kind motion going through parliament at the moment which will outlaw the procedure unless carried out by a qualified dentist.

Sounds like jobs for the boys as the technique is exactly the same whether or not it's dentally supervised.

Do you have a link by any chance?
mortonjag 2008-06-10 13:47:41
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Jun 10 2008, 01:41 PM) [snapback]458324[/snapback]
Well considering there are now more older people than younger people why not improvise age related products/services for certain age groups. i.e 60-80+, 40-50 etc etc. Certainly in greenock alone there are many older people outnumbering the younger class. The prices would have to be cheap considering pensions are tight etc. Just a thought.

That's clear headed thinking-I imagine the mobility scooter and stair lift moguls are absolutely coining it in. Any novel suggestions aimed at the decrepit? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-10 13:50:21
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 10 2008, 01:33 PM) [snapback]458315[/snapback]
it was tele talk, there were no quotes from di...

laugh.gif

I see our Manager has already been promoted to Royalty level! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-10 14:00:38
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jun 10 2008, 01:52 PM) [snapback]458332[/snapback]
this is a stupid idea imho. one of my friends came up with this and is genuinely looking for someone to invest, he's done the research spoke to a company and is wanting to sell electricity to electric companies. Before you laugh read.
what he intnds to do is store energy by using hydro. he gets 14p for every killowatt I think he said. wasnt really listening and recons he can make arouund £5000 a month b4 tax and expenditures. The company he spoke to said it's plausible and thres companies that actual would be interested but here comes th problems.

he has no money to invest
he has no business sense
he's a tit
and probably really could do as being manager of the compan and having someone else own it and make deciscions or he will feck it right up.
plus it Green energy the goverments all for that

Where will he get the energy from in the first place-I'm assuming he means using the tried and tested principle of converting potential energy to electricity using water driven turbines?
mortonjag 2008-06-10 14:16:01
QUOTE(pgmsc @ Jun 10 2008, 02:09 PM) [snapback]458337[/snapback]
Robertson was never a target

I believe that-where does the Tilly get its information? huh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-10 14:19:49
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Jun 10 2008, 02:14 PM) [snapback]458339[/snapback]
Well MJ, If you look at old folk nowadays you see bored faces. I suggest a themepark made specifically for oaps. rollercoasters going 20 mph in a circle.
On a more serious note, cheap clothing for the aged would be a sound investment, most of them wear 5 layers even when its as hot as a drought. With pensions paying out very little many struggle to buy new gear. Reduce the prices so that although profits may be reduced the actual amount of customers you get may increase.
Cant think of anything else at this precise moment so will try think of something.



The flaw there might be that they still tend to wear the same kind of garments as younger folk.
mortonjag 2008-06-10 14:48:29
QUOTE(simplyton @ Jun 10 2008, 02:39 PM) [snapback]458359[/snapback]
While certainly not an idea I have put a lot of thought into what about some sort of lesiure location for adults

Think of funworld for big kids

Aimed at groups for work day/night outs - It could be some amalgamation of bowling, paintballing, lasertag, soccer circus etc.

Sounds marketable but don't let Shoogly hear that one! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-10 14:54:10


QUOTE(pgmsc @ Jun 10 2008, 02:18 PM) [snapback]458342[/snapback]
Where do most of the papers get there info not like papers make things up

Oh c'mon-you're not suggesting that they just come up with any old story-surely they must rely on some kind of 'sources'! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-10 15:25:17
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Jun 10 2008, 03:15 PM) [snapback]458378[/snapback]
physio probably told them.

............or they just read it on his pubic massage board?
mortonjag 2008-06-10 15:33:25
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 10 2008, 03:25 PM) [snapback]458382[/snapback]

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Nope Spurtle, it sounds paranoid-and don't forget that a significant proportion of those who voted Bawheid's lot in were the same thick clowns who previously voted Labour because they were paranoid about the nasty Tories oppressing 'the working classes'!

If you want intelligent perceptive folk to come over to 'the cause' treat them as such-otherwise you will continue to be ridiculed.
mortonjag 2008-06-10 15:40:20
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 10 2008, 03:36 PM) [snapback]458388[/snapback]
Don't they hate us when we tell the truth ? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

You didn't 'tell the truth'-you simply posted a puerile anti unionist jibe-that's the type of thing which irritates ordinary intelligent folk, to say nothing of genii like myself.

Just when I was thinking of going back to Claymore C*ck, I find the term Spurtle remains far more accurate!
mortonjag 2008-06-10 15:46:24
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jun 10 2008, 03:29 PM) [snapback]458385[/snapback]
i know i used to play so did my sis
and m mum, dad, gran, grandad, 2 aunts, 2 uncles and 3 little cousins play
biggrin.gif


YOUSE ARE
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 10 2008, 03:36 PM) [snapback]458389[/snapback]
Where did you play? Maybe i know you.


HI-JACKING
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jun 10 2008, 03:40 PM) [snapback]458390[/snapback]
i was about 16 when i played only 24 now :S

was in rankin park thats where m gran, grandad, aunts, uncles and cousins are.
mum and dad are in port glasgow bowling club (dad was pres last year, ronnie took over now)



THIS THREAD

Behave immediately or I shall burst into some Belgian dirge and drown in my own tears.
mortonjag 2008-06-10 15:50:50
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jun 10 2008, 03:45 PM) [snapback]458393[/snapback]
i voted socialists last election based solely on the fact that i used to work in IBM factories (and call centre) and thatcher and major adn torries were worse than swear words and blashpemy ect learned alot from the older guys about torries and why not to vote them. then theres labour i dont actualy remember thm doing very much significantly and blair was a t***. SNP the fat leader dude jsut annoyed me. so i voted socialists becuase i kinda figured they would take scotland in the right direction. But my votte shouldn't count, i read books about marxism and karl marx, lenin, stalin, fidel, socialism and i read somethign on capitalism :S

You made a reasoned decision-that's what matters! wink.gif


PRESERVE THE UNION


Use vinegar-Rowats have been doing it for decades.
mortonjag 2008-06-10 15:54:56
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 10 2008, 03:50 PM) [snapback]458398[/snapback]
If that post could be translated into a language that I can understand I'd be grateful. It may we be the most profound thing ever written on here but at the moment I just don't know.



Indeed it 'may we be'-I actually got the drift no bother! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-10 15:57:20
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jun 10 2008, 03:48 PM) [snapback]458396[/snapback]
promising?

Cut the cackle and get on with it then-I'm taking a crash course in swimming right now!
mortonjag 2008-06-10 16:00:47
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jun 10 2008, 03:54 PM) [snapback]458401[/snapback]
I've had some pretty good mince in my time though Muz wink.gif
I'm just glad that PortTon's not in the same team as you...the thought of towel flicking in the changing room makes me shudder unsure.gif

'Towel flicking in the changing room'-that's the first time I've ever heard it described in code!
mortonjag 2008-06-10 16:06:34
QUOTE(EBu @ Jun 10 2008, 03:59 PM) [snapback]458407[/snapback]
Yes we are... oh, and dont call me Shirley. tongue.gif




omah e bu sulis dancok. matane

and I'll call you whatever I like Dancok.
mortonjag 2008-06-10 16:10:16
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 10 2008, 04:03 PM) [snapback]458412[/snapback]
He doesn't let the grass grow under his feet. Anyway are you trying to scare me with your crowing?

hissing might be more aspt
mortonjag 2008-06-10 16:16:28
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 10 2008, 03:59 PM) [snapback]458406[/snapback]
Jesus!!! Trying to work, bank on-line and type on here at the same time.

Could you please translate the post for me MJ? There's a good chap.

Aye-the boy said he didn't vote Tory because he'd been poisoned against them by older workmates, he couldn't stand the sight of Salmond's coupon, and thought Blair was a phanny so he voted Scottish Socialist.

He thinks he's as entitled to his vote as the next guy-particularly as he's done a fair bit of relevant research.
mortonjag 2008-06-10 16:19:04
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 10 2008, 04:00 PM) [snapback]458408[/snapback]
Ach wind yir neck in. Anyway hi-jacking threads is what I do best tongue.gif

Aye -well just don't hi-jack mine Mr Turpin or fing'll show you how to use a real gun.
mortonjag 2008-06-10 16:21:00
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jun 10 2008, 04:19 PM) [snapback]458419[/snapback]
yeah what he said

laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-10 16:23:56
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 10 2008, 04:13 PM) [snapback]458415[/snapback]
Do you mean I'm telling Sweet little lies ?

laugh.gif



Bloody hell Spurtle-

'There now follows a political broadcast on behalf of the ********* party' was always a cue to put the kettle on, or have a quick shag, and now you're posting the same effin keech on here!
mortonjag 2008-06-10 16:28:24
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 10 2008, 04:25 PM) [snapback]458425[/snapback]
Thanks, the boy has a point. Well done for that post.

The thing I've found about Marxists over the years is that they'll say they are a Marxist then once they read some books they realise they in fact are not.


I can honestly say I wouldn't know a Marxist if I met one in my wee red book.
mortonjag 2008-06-10 16:48:05
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Jun 10 2008, 04:41 PM) [snapback]458433[/snapback]
I'm not sure why, but I feel as if Alan Titchmarsh would be proud of this thread! biggrin.gif

Indeed-though I preferred Charlie's Titsmarch
mortonjag 2008-06-10 16:50:17
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Jun 10 2008, 04:43 PM) [snapback]458434[/snapback]
Just on that last part, why should he be allowed too? or to reword that...the only person who can make or break is him...I'm sure many a poster on here has hit personal low points..but has decided to get up and make a go of things. not spend an age turning their lives up side down even more...AFWIW I never like the wee turdeven when he played for us. If having the 'life' changing experiance of a mate knickin your burd is enough to turn you into an abuser of substances, stay at home, dont go out, lock the windows and doors, cause the world was never going to be a place of bloody fairytales. and if thats what he choose to turn to, then sorry, he wasnt much of a person to start with.....no one makes that choice for you!!! dry.gif he is and always will be a wee fud.....

unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-10 16:52:48
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 10 2008, 04:34 PM) [snapback]458431[/snapback]
Morton Jag......need help again.

The boy opined that Marxist Ton would be a good source of information on Marxism.
mortonjag 2008-06-10 16:54:39
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 10 2008, 04:45 PM) [snapback]458436[/snapback]
Idle threats will get you nowhere MJ tongue.gif

Fing doesn't do idle threats Mr Turpin-yer card's marked!
mortonjag 2008-06-10 16:59:10
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 10 2008, 04:54 PM) [snapback]458446[/snapback]
Which one of these is Mark Farrell?

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDThat's not a seed box in the background!
mortonjag 2008-06-10 17:03:25
And for the old dirty bams it stars Missy Peregrym


Aye-well I'd imagine the 'reaper' will be very grim. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-10 17:11:26
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Jun 10 2008, 05:01 PM) [snapback]458453[/snapback]
I think a local lad/former Ton player being discussed on the board is a sensitive issue. But I don't think there has been any malice in MOST of the comments so far to be fair. That being said, maybe it is inappropriate, I wouldn't object to the thread being erased.



Malice is commonplace on the rag-the Jag knows this.

A wee fud and junkie called Alice..
(I say that without any malice)
came out of rehab
and bought a prefab
which she has turned into a 'palace'.
.
mortonjag 2008-06-10 17:13:49
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 10 2008, 05:06 PM) [snapback]458457[/snapback]
Thought it was utter kack and an example of someone taking way too many drugs. Worked on the 'Blue Jam' album which came out on Warp Records. It was also kack but for some bizarre reason sold loads.



Is that the Belgian form of 'keech'?
mortonjag 2008-06-10 18:22:20
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 10 2008, 05:18 PM) [snapback]458463[/snapback]
It's Dutch actually.

laugh.gif

Them foreigners are all the same to me! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-10 18:24:55
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 10 2008, 05:15 PM) [snapback]458461[/snapback]
Taking that as read. She is quite level headed as Sir Alan put it but he doesn't look convinced. Think Lee shot his bolt in the interviews last week.

That must surely have impressed Mr Sugar.
mortonjag 2008-06-10 18:26:59
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 10 2008, 05:16 PM) [snapback]458462[/snapback]
Bring it on biggrin.gif

On it has already been brung-it's only a matter of time-have you made a will-the Trust needs generosity and publicity?
mortonjag 2008-06-10 18:32:15
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 10 2008, 06:21 PM) [snapback]458479[/snapback]
Again Col, you're way too hard on yourself. wink.gif

Mortonjag are you a babel fish? ohmy.gif



Of sorts I guess-I was always very good at 'interpretation'! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-10 18:36:08 The Yanks would love Kev-he'd remind them of the attack on Iraq-full of energy with no purpose, and a negative final product.
mortonjag 2008-06-10 18:38:24
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 10 2008, 04:58 PM) [snapback]458451[/snapback]
Just for you then

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDShe doesn't have the most winsome of faces-I agree, and would probably prove to be a bit of a handful.
mortonjag 2008-06-10 18:56:38
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Jun 10 2008, 06:44 PM) [snapback]458495[/snapback]
Stick with me on this one! laugh.gif

This time in 2012, when London will be preparing to host the Olympic Games, Scotland will very possibly have had its first vote on independence and Euro 2012 will be staged in Poland/Ukraine or an emergency back-up nation if they balls it up, what league do you expect Morton to be making pre-season plans for.

This doesn't have to be concrete. It can just where you hope they'll be!

I hope we are preparing for a season in the SPL, I expect us to have been involved in a title race in the First Division at the very worst!

Ask God-but you'll need Shoogly's permission.
mortonjag 2008-06-10 18:59:49
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 10 2008, 06:45 PM) [snapback]458496[/snapback]
But at least I'm not a Tory tongue.gif

True and certainly not a Nationalist, though you have an almost endearing affection for one of the biggest balloons ever to hit Scottish politics.
mortonjag 2008-06-10 19:03:53 I can't really see what was so funny-those poor souls gave their all and then some. Such devotion could have seen the Ton promoted much earlier, and even last season we pathetically managed to crawl over the line to huge jubilation.

What was the difference between 8th and 9th-Shoogly's hide! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-10 19:08:11 Well-geezwan
mortonjag 2008-06-10 19:10:00
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 10 2008, 07:04 PM) [snapback]458504[/snapback]
even had a nice wee chat with an ex Morton goal keeper when I was waiting.

Hope he wasn't knocking back the pints.
mortonjag 2008-06-10 19:26:01
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jun 10 2008, 07:20 PM) [snapback]458509[/snapback]
what has Dougie got to do with either the video, or this thread? why do you have to ruin every thread on this forum ? i cannot read anything on here anymore without seeing your inane drivel being spouted on every second post. Either put up or shut up, and by that i mean that you seem to have a lot of spare time on your hands so why not organise a campaign to oust Dougie from his position within the club? why not do something like that instead of all these wee digs in threads which he isn't involved. Now come on Doctor prove you have a bit of substance behind you and put into practice what you believe in, if you think Dougie has done so much harm to this club then let us all see your proof and lets see if you can get enough support to oust him from his position.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Wouldn't you have got rid of more angst by wishing me a slow and painful death-or just slopin' off for a quiet J. Arthur?

Oh-and it's Shoogly to me, though I fully understand there are still a dwindling few who regard him with affection and apparent brain damage. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-10 19:29:36
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 10 2008, 07:25 PM) [snapback]458511[/snapback]
Indeed you're not.

Inlike this fella............
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDHe reminds me of Myra Hindley-always the same picture evoking always the same thoughts.
mortonjag 2008-06-10 19:31:51
QUOTE(El gofer @ Jun 10 2008, 07:27 PM) [snapback]458513[/snapback]
Nawpy sofya bow rinowg it

Hooer ewe Colin agit
mortonjag 2008-06-11 05:31:37
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Jun 10 2008, 08:19 PM) [snapback]458527[/snapback]
General nonsense for this p*sh.

amenta ton roomer sew ewe an thi modwer rong rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-11 05:34:46
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 10 2008, 08:09 PM) [snapback]458522[/snapback]
haha

What an intelligent comment.

QUOTE(piehutt @ Jun 10 2008, 08:17 PM) [snapback]458524[/snapback]
No that was the union of the Scottish and English crown in 1606 - despite James of Scotland taking the now British throne and becoming James I of Britain, Scotland was still politically independent (own parliament etc).

Wasn't until 1707 when the Scottish landowners were bought and sold for English gold and Scotland as a political entity made redundant.

Over the next 100 years, after two failled Jacobite rebellions, much of Scotland lost it's Scottish identity - the use of Gaelic and Bagpipes etc was outlawed.

Incidentally - the Scottish crown was taken by James VI of Scotland and he became James I of Britain. Elizabeth took the British crown in 1952, and despite the previous Elizabeth reigning before 1606 - she became Elizabeth II. Just another example of England meaning Britain in many peoples eyes.

Piehole-I'm impressed-you're almost as good as Donkey Dave at regurgitating fingz!
mortonjag 2008-06-11 05:44:40
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jun 10 2008, 10:45 PM) [snapback]458561[/snapback]
I dont have any angst to direct at you, i just feel that you are abusing the forum in your own special way, by having digs at Dougie. If you do have a genuine want to see him removed from the running of the club then why not start a campaign to remove him, if you are correct in saying that there is only a dwindling few who still support him then i cannot see any reason why your 'campaign' wont work as you would have a large backing from us fans. So convince the remaining few on here who still want Dougie at the helm of club by stopping the little digs and posting the truth as you see it to bring the remaining few non-believers, shouldn't be very hard if that information you have has convinced a man of your stature and education.

That's much better-you can do it when you try!

You'll not be wishing me a 'slow and painful death' anymore now that you've returned to the land of the civilised and civil. smile.gif

Now-to the highlighted phrase-let me assure you that 'the truth as I see it' is the truth, and has been shared privately with almost a dozen trustworthy posters.

Dispute that if you wish-it's perfectly normal for folk who simply don't like the Jag and his style.

Finally, let me ask you a serious and sincere question. Do you believe Douglas Rae is still 'good' for Greenock Morton, and if so-why?

mortonjag 2008-06-11 05:54:16
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jun 10 2008, 08:55 PM) [snapback]458538[/snapback]
Mobile Coversion of Cars to Bio Oil and supplying the oil

Set up a Van with all tools to convert the cars and also source Oil
from china or some other suitable cheap country and sell it in 5 & 10 Litre Bottles (Sell it as COOKING OIL) to avoid fuel tax then its at customers risk to use it as fuel

If you cant be arsed actually doing anything and making a Guarenteed profit ??

Buy £100k of Barrels of Oil wait at say $113 wait a year and sell then at $180 - $200 a barel .. Easy


You're probably on to some kind of winner there Scott. My son says the easiest way is to offer to dispose of used oil from chippies and treat it as you've suggested. For me it's just too much like hard work!


QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jun 10 2008, 09:09 PM) [snapback]458542[/snapback]
MJ I have a serious suggestion.

Dunno how to go about it though maybe you will, not even sure if anything like this exists.

this is the thing I suffer from mears irlen syndrome basically means i need coloured filters to read, or coloured glaasses, and alot of web sites dont provide for this, its usualy white background black text which is difficult for people with this condition to read. So I was thinking why not build and design a filter (different colours available) that attaches to the monitor so people with this condition can read websites with more ease.

The problem with high tech stuff for a small consumer base is that it takes ages before you get you investment back. Why don't you put that idea to an established company though?

QUOTE(capitanus @ Jun 10 2008, 10:59 PM) [snapback]458569[/snapback]
Similar to BlueScottishRaven's mates idea, offshore wave energy farms similar to the salmon farms.

Dozens of cylinders coupled together floating just a few hindred feet offshore with water hitting the bottom of the cylinder, blowing air up turning a small turbine which in turn charges a battery onshore which feeds the National Grid with a environmentally sound and renewable source of energy which will last forever.

I would like to use this to create jobs in areas of rural unemployment, and to provide this countrys pensioners with affordable energy, but it would cost more that £1,000,000 to set it up.



Is this already operational anywhere-is the figure of £1,000,000 ballpark or taken from an audited business plan?
mortonjag 2008-06-11 05:59:40
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Jun 10 2008, 11:34 PM) [snapback]458582[/snapback]
coudent find my vain so stoped taking it form me bit of a pisser seing i had wated about a houer to be seen and now i have a big f** off browes on my airm



You must be one mean c*nt-they're supposed to be s*** hot at getting blood.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 06:02:48
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 10 2008, 11:30 PM) [snapback]458579[/snapback]
28 and 29....old basturds smile.gif

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mortonjag 2008-06-11 06:06:15
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 11 2008, 12:44 AM) [snapback]458591[/snapback]
It was Fing!!!!



Fing is to the nail gun as William Tell is to the crossbow! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-11 06:09:54
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 11 2008, 12:38 AM) [snapback]458589[/snapback]
Do these rankings make any more sense than FIFA ?
European cities dominate the worldwide rankings of locations with the best quality of living, according to Mercer’s 2008 Quality of Living survey.

Zurich retains its 2007 title as the highest ranked city, followed jointly by Vienna (2), Geneva (2), then Vancouver (4) and Auckland (5).

In the UK, London ranks 38, while Birmingham and Glasgow are jointly 56.

The highest entry for the United States is Honolulu, appearing at number 28.

The cities with the lowest quality of living ranking are Ndjamena (211), Khartoum (212), Brazzaville (213) and Bangui (214). Baghdad, ranking 215, retains its position at the bottom of the table.
http://www.mercer.com/referencecontent.jht...Content=1306635



NO



...though Mercers are presumably laughing all the way to the bank on the strength of the clowns who believe them.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 06:14:43
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jun 10 2008, 08:14 PM) [snapback]458523[/snapback]
Perhaps ignored because it wasn't a valid point. MJ infers that no other section of the GMFC site is EVER (his emphasis) updated. A quick glance at the official site reveals several news items which fans would have been interested in - eg pre-season tour, new signings, Challenge Cup draw and information on 2008-09 Season Tickets to name but a few. The Lottery section is also updated weekly immediately after the draw. Still, as usual, MJ is not one to let the facts get in the way of a moan. Sad man really.mad.gif

The sad men Smiffy are those who refuse to listen to Mortonjag-join the enlightened and wake up each day with a big cheesy smile. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-11 06:19:08
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 10 2008, 08:07 PM) [snapback]458521[/snapback]
you wouldn't expect confidential information to be revealed on a public messageboard, would you? tongue.gif

It happens all the time Trumpet-it would appear that very few are privy to the truth about Mr Donald. I DO have some limited information, regarding his remit. NOT for a pubic massage board though.

QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Jun 10 2008, 08:17 PM) [snapback]458526[/snapback]
But MJ already knows all the answers does he not? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Mortonjag knows many things itchy baws-do not attempt to mock your superiors.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 06:27:01
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jun 11 2008, 12:29 AM) [snapback]458588[/snapback]
I only got mine today.

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We've still had nuffin'! laugh.gif

'Mark-here's a few more letters to post'.

'Not MORE Gillian-can you not see I'm up to the eyes in turkey dung'.

'Mr Rae wants them posted today'.

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mortonjag 2008-06-11 06:33:40
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jun 10 2008, 08:37 PM) [snapback]458530[/snapback]
So how do you know this isn't the point when he'll turn it round?

EXACTLY

QUOTE(Edinton @ Jun 11 2008, 12:17 AM) [snapback]458585[/snapback]
I'm inclined to agree with those arguing that the origins of the post are to do with his history as an ex-ton player and not specifically to cast judgement or have a dig. Some posters have chosen that route for whatever reason, but it's spurious to tar us all with that big weepy brush. I hope it is anyway...

FWIW I was in school with his brother, really good family as others have mentioned, hopefully he'll get sorted soon.

Sweepy?

It's always the same with stereotypes-alkies, junkies, fat b*****ds, dworphs, women, pufes, religious phrekes, Mortonjags, etc.

The only person I know who thoroughly deserves to be publicly ostracised is Professor Piehole-'cos he's a total fud- him and Tontastic! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-11 06:40:48 Sir Alan denies being jumped-up chairman (from today's Herald)


Sir Alan Sugar has denied using a booster seat to appear taller in the boardroom.

A makeshift wooden plinth has been spotted underneath Sir Alan's boardroom chair in The Apprentice.

It has been claimed that the 5ft 6ins tycoon uses a special seat to look taller when he declares "You're fired".


But the Apprentice star said: "That's a load of rubbish. The chair is fixed to stop it moving backwards and forwards while allowing me to swing to the left and the right.





Well he would, wouldn't he!


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mortonjag 2008-06-11 07:50:49
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 11 2008, 06:43 AM) [snapback]458612[/snapback]
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a doctor used a common claw hammer to remove the nail.

I meant could mortonjag have done a better removal job ? ... not the insertion !!!

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Mortonjag would NEVER use anything 'common'. A medium sized platinum mole wrench would be my tool of choice-far less risk of slipping off with secondary damage-and think of the invoice! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-11 07:53:58
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jun 11 2008, 07:41 AM) [snapback]458614[/snapback]
theres actualy a large % of the worlds population that has mears irlen but a large part of that go through life not knowig they have it as it can be minor to the extent u dont notice till you look through a filter. Just an idea what kind of compan would I take it to though :S

I would start by googling 'optical filters' or some similar term-surfing for fifteen or twenty minutes you'd probably get a good idea of who makes similar equipment.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 07:57:11
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jun 11 2008, 07:46 AM) [snapback]458615[/snapback]
I'd open a sweetie shop called "Dessert Storm". All the staff would wear combat fatigues.

Either that or a sci-fi themed white goods store called "Rebel Appliance".

Don't steal that

Well just don't open it within a hundred mile radius of Greenock or Auld Shoogly will be shufflin' in tryin' to shell you shome of hish shuper shweeties. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-11 08:16:25
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jun 11 2008, 08:00 AM) [snapback]458619[/snapback]
might just do that, this could be my get rich quick scheme lol

You've got to be in it to win it! wink.gif

On a totally different note, do you-or does any poster for that matter, know of a clinic in Inverclyde which offers botox therapy?
mortonjag 2008-06-11 08:21:43 Aye-many happy returns of the day little ones.

Benny boy-where are you-have you finished yon' Doctorate from a proper University yet-you haven't posted for months-I suspect you may have dizzy peered off to darkest Aphrica.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 08:43:31
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jun 11 2008, 08:24 AM) [snapback]458623[/snapback]
the only place i know about is in fife somewhere

Hmm-you reckon it's not all that common up here yet?

Lulu must get hers done down south!
mortonjag 2008-06-11 08:46:13
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 11 2008, 08:27 AM) [snapback]458624[/snapback]
and perceptive. i was just wondering why you don't heed your own advice smile.gif

It was neither intelligent nor perceptive Trumpet. With your usual wearisome modus operandi you attempted to score a cheap point at Mortonjag's expense.

Will you ever learn?
mortonjag 2008-06-11 08:54:41
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jun 11 2008, 08:34 AM) [snapback]458626[/snapback]
Nice to see Dublin climbing a couple of places to 25th in Quality of Living, and sitting pretty at 17th in Safest Place as well. Although I assume none of the people conducting the survey ventured into Finglas, Ballyfermot or Clondalkin after lights out to ask their questions.

There was a great quote during the last election from one of the Fine Gael prospective candidates - he made the mistake of going into darkest Clondalkin in his BMW as he went door to door. Jumping out he saw a group of young neds and shouted over "lads, if I leave this car here will it still be here when I get back". One of the lads shouted"mister, wherever you leave that car in Dublin, it'll be here when you get back !". Brilliant.

I just returned from San Diego and would easily have it in my top 10 for both. Ditto for Toronto.

Just my tuppence worth.

TonInDublin



So tell me this-well not YOU specifically-perhaps Spurtle will have the answer-but how the hell is 'London' a better place than 'Glasgow'.

It seems the old story of lies, damned lies, and statistics TiD!

Any large City is a conglomerate of so many factors-Glasgow, for example has the largest area of parkland in Europe-VERY impressive, yet a lassie was robbed, sexually assaulted, and murdered two weeks ago in Queens Park (less than a mile from this computer)!

So how to they score that 10/10 for parks and 0/10 for murders= 5/10? laugh.gif

IMHO it's a useless exercise pandering to the egos of those who are daft enough to give it credibility!

mortonjag 2008-06-11 09:01:48
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 11 2008, 08:33 AM) [snapback]458625[/snapback]
why do you think they should share 'the truth' with you? huh.gif
qed wink.gif



Tiresome and embarrassingly repetitive Trumpet-it's not even about Alistair Donald-just your fatal attraction to the Jag and pathological need to link your name with his posts.

Oh well-whatever floats your boat.

Would you like me to add to my signature 'TrumpingTon my deerstalker is really awful nice-no sh*t Sherlock'?


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mortonjag 2008-06-11 09:05:27
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jun 11 2008, 08:53 AM) [snapback]458630[/snapback]
hasn't this veered off topic a little?

Aye it's that Trumpet's fault-he stalks me, you see!

Spurtle's probably busy handing out pamphlets right now-we better get it on track before he finds out we've f*cked his precious bete noire.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 09:08:07
QUOTE(irvineTON @ Jun 11 2008, 09:00 AM) [snapback]458633[/snapback]
This is something Toby noticed to our disgust while out in Prague. U were gettin considerably more for English notes than the Scots ones!!!

It was 2 seperate columns on the board. ohmy.gif mad.gif

Does Spurtle know this?
mortonjag 2008-06-11 09:09:48
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jun 11 2008, 08:52 AM) [snapback]458629[/snapback]
dunno when I was in town a few months ago over heard a convo in the bus shelter some woman was goin to fife to get botox done. so it could be getting popular


It's probably the old story of Scotland dragging behind England dragging behind the USA.


mortonjag 2008-06-11 09:17:03
QUOTE(BluebirdTon @ Jun 11 2008, 08:58 AM) [snapback]458632[/snapback]
Signs for Forfar.

Link

Looks like the Loons are yet again making a bid for promotion.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 09:28:44
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 11 2008, 09:16 AM) [snapback]458638[/snapback]
why do you think they should share 'the truth' with you? huh.gif

Stop digressing-I realise you're embarrassed and flattered by my attention-do you want me to amend my signature or not?
mortonjag 2008-06-11 10:34:30
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 11 2008, 09:30 AM) [snapback]458642[/snapback]
“Duck” in and look at these guys- http://www.edesign.co.uk/
It would get trashed by Rangers fans! In saying that maybe you could open a laser quest for opposing football team supporters and start a league!
There are various companies that offer optical filters- Thorlabs, OZ Optics, New focus, etc.
There is a company in Livingston who design and grow speciality filters- Helia. They are excellent.
Frank Placido at Paisley is also at the forefront of thin film design. A very approachable chap.
MJ you would take out half of Europe’s stock if you were intent on looking younger! dry.gif

I'm not! I'm content to remain old, ugly, and intensely attractive to all members of the opposite sex under the age of 43.67 years.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 10:38:06
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 11 2008, 10:07 AM) [snapback]458654[/snapback]
Actually there was more than two Jacobite uprisings, there was one in 1719 as well.
Not true that Culloden was the last battle fought on "british" soil. The battle of Bonnymuir was fought in 1820.
To say the Jacobite uprisings were a "Catholic" thing is another myth. Many were Episcopalian.
Another myth you may hear is more Scots fought for the Hanovarian side. Again not true.
We also had the the Disarming Act firstly then the Act of Proscription. No bagipes, names like McGregor were banned, and you couldn't even read from you're Gaelic bible.

Another myth that unionists use is that Gaelic was only spoken in the Highlands. Greenock fro example comes from the Gaelic Grianaig. Many believe it comes from the Green Oak tree.

During Robert the Bruce's time, parliaments were held in Gaelic. Bruce was a fluent Gaelic speaker and was born in Turnberry.

James VII was the last Stuart monarch on the british throne. Replaced by William of Orange simply because he was Catholic.
Many go on about Bonnie Prince Charlie being Italian. True he was born in Italy, but he was a direct decendant of the Stuart James VII (his grandfather) and rightful King of Scots. Unlike the German George II of Hanover who could hardly speak a word of English.
Jacobite incidently comes from the Latin Jacobus meaning James.
The present Monarchy is foreign too, coming from the German Saxe Coburg-Gotha. They changed their name during WWI when they picked a name out of the hat to make them sound more English, Windsor was the name they chose eventually. Mountbatton is also a name change, it was previously Battenburg.

Hey Spurtle-a point of information-25 years ago to this very day, a young Gordon Brown was campaigning for a Scottish Assembly because labour were still successful up here but Maggie was running riot in Inglind!
mortonjag 2008-06-11 10:55:25
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 11 2008, 10:30 AM) [snapback]458659[/snapback]
Why don't you just answer the question and without any smart-arse comments and juvenile name calling.

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QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 11 2008, 10:37 AM) [snapback]458661[/snapback]
It would be nice to share the truth with all of us rather than quibbling about who should or should not be told .

Precisely Chris, and the reason I did not respond to trouble maker Trumpet and his band wagon jumping friend is that I NEVER suggested that 'they' should tell 'me' anything. The remaining pathetic fools whose raison d'etre is to undermine Mortonjag will try every dirty trick in the book-behaviour that has become pathognomonic of chronic Shooglyphilia.



I asked an open question for the benefit of ALL interested posters-it was clearly directed to anyone who had information. The Trust 'body swerved' it by claiming to be dealing with the same question from an anonymous Trust member. In truth, I suspect the Trust knows no more than the rest of us.

Donkey Dave has been strangely quiet-maybe he's finally been put out to grass! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-11 11:04:52
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 11 2008, 10:52 AM) [snapback]458666[/snapback]
We have fans all over the world and GMFC.net should be their best and most convenient source of keeping updated . They should not have to come on here for first hand information amid the petty squabbles .

It's not just about our fans-almost every other footy web site in Britain will have a link to GMFC.net-lots of folk for lots of reasons may want information about the Ton-even if it's just because they've been linked with one of our players or vice versa. The official site is a non-event, and anybody who SERIOUSLY thinks it's OK 'needs his heid looked'.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 11:12:10
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 11 2008, 10:43 AM) [snapback]458664[/snapback]
Another point of information-Gordon Brown was called Miranda at Uni. laugh.gif

I'd prefer to call him MILANDA-a f*ckin lump of dough.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 11:15:15 I don't bet often though I got second in the Derby e.w!

Anyway, I've said from the outset that Croatia could surprise everybody, but I'll not be putting money on them.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 11:26:36
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 11 2008, 11:11 AM) [snapback]458674[/snapback]
So did they get relegated the year before??

Blantyre Celtic who made a late and successful Lazarus bid for the Gretna spot and remained in the third Division thereafter with average gates of 27 which the SFL describe as 'promising'.

Morton hopeful of a more fruitful season as Douglas Rae has re-appointed former Ton manager and fans' idol Jim McInally to the post of Director of Football, gasping 'As long as there's breath in my body Morton is not for sale-I've said it till I'm blue in the face and I intend to be around for some time to come'. Jim is the embodiment of what I want from a co-director-he never argued with me when he was here before, and I don't expect he'll have changed. Jim never changed anything'.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 11:29:57
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 11 2008, 11:18 AM) [snapback]458678[/snapback]
Inside the Vatican, there is a huge monument dedicated to the Stuart's. I visited last year and it's quite impressive.

Bonnie Prince Charlie is also buried in the Vatican, about 20 yards from John Paul II.

Most folk go to see the Pope Spurtle! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-11 11:43:16
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 11 2008, 11:36 AM) [snapback]458681[/snapback]
That's because most folk don't know the Stuart's are buried there. Unionist propaganda in Schools you see.... rolleyes.gif

Unionist propaganda in calf lick schools

Aye right-pull the other one-it plays 'Silent Night' in German. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-11 12:24:36
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 11 2008, 12:10 PM) [snapback]458684[/snapback]
Pooves burried in the panting heart of Rome? unsure.gif
Indeed, agent McB, tory taig teacher, specialises in that.
Assemblies based on the Ibrox Nuremberg rally style with lots of patriotic choons, union flags, piccies of her maj etc.
Goes down a treat. wink.gif

Do you sing that lovely one about my father driving an orange van, or the sash Mia Farrow wore-oh and then you MUST do Rule Brittania-Brittania rules the waves! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-11 12:33:48
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 11 2008, 12:20 PM) [snapback]458685[/snapback]
I watched it on your recommendation , quite quirky . I'll give it another viewing ,

A neat alliteration incorporating an interesting word we seldom see from our resident intelligentsia!
mortonjag 2008-06-11 12:40:29
QUOTE(bonzo @ Jun 11 2008, 12:34 PM) [snapback]458691[/snapback]
I remember as a kid watching clips on tv of my old mans fave drummer, Buddy Rich.

The blokes wrists went ten to the dozen.

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mortonjag 2008-06-11 12:48:47
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 11 2008, 12:37 PM) [snapback]458693[/snapback]
i told you that we know as much as the average fan does, we did not body swerve it. we also said we will ask ask him this question on behalf of a member.

EXACTLY-nothing, so you'll be telling the anonymous member nothing.

I wasn't having a go at the trust-though Stuart DID make it sound like a bloody secret service-I was simply pointing out the stupidity of Trumpet and his satellite accusing me of wanting 'them' to tell 'me' when in fact it appears that nobody has the real answer! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-11 12:58:49
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 3 2008, 02:56 PM) [snapback]455790[/snapback]
Oh Really?

This thread has had over 600 views with only 8 different posters actually replying and of those replies 80% of the posts are not about the point in question but instead relate to which forum the post should be viewed in. rolleyes.gif

Indeed and what saddo went to the trouble of checking that just to attempt to confound Mortonjag. Shooglyphilia is certainly incurable for some!

Well my old friend-eight days down the line-still at the top of page one-almost 2000 views-70 posts from 22 different posters, and you'll still say Tontastic was correct.

WHY-simple-you hate me when I tell the truth!

QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 3 2008, 08:13 PM) [snapback]455909[/snapback]
i'm astounded that a thread entitled 'a question for the trust' should have been moved to the GMST forum.

why doesn't the OP edit the thread title to 'a load of nonsense', and then, perhaps, it'll be moved elsewhere biggrin.gif

See above Trumpet-you can't learn from your mistakes-truly you are a man on a hiding to nothing. I suggest you take on somebody of your own limited intellect. If, however, you continue to stalk me, I shall take that as the embodiment of Shooglyphilia. After all, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-11 13:44:01
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 11 2008, 12:52 PM) [snapback]458698[/snapback]
no he will be getting the answer he gets to the question, and he aint anonymous.

He's anonymous on this pubic massage board. Stuart made it very obvious that questions to the Trust would only be answered if they came from Trust members. I asked an open question-a question which many posters have confirmed was not only entirely valid, but to which they wanted an answer.

The question about our new Director and his financial plans was initially posed to the Trust-because Stuart had deflected attention from 'being or not being the fans representative' by publishing reams of financial material and talking in financial, investment, and shareholding terms.

Tontastic saw fit to make the thread 'disappear' to what he incorrectly described as 'a more appropriate forum', time has proven that, and I had to re-incarnate it, especially as I'd already had a couple of supportive p.m.s.

Seems to me that the Trust got over its wee hiccup with 'keeping track of the money' and it's now back to business as usual! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-11 13:45:16
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jun 11 2008, 01:13 PM) [snapback]458703[/snapback]
All I can say is he-haw laugh.gif rolleyes.gif wink.gif

Hee-haw-you mean!
mortonjag 2008-06-11 13:50:33 Brilliant-just look at those crowds-it's amusing to see how the old heavy 'bladder' made for a slower and more deliberate game.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 13:54:23
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 11 2008, 01:38 PM) [snapback]458707[/snapback]
He doesn't seem to mind admitting he swings both ways as long as he is not a shortarse huh.gif

He's ac/dc-it's a bloody electric chair!
mortonjag 2008-06-11 13:56:16
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jun 11 2008, 01:31 PM) [snapback]458706[/snapback]
Happy birthday Andy, and the other two.

Have a cake, I don't like birthday cake so it's a chocolate cake.

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDA Thornton's chocolate cake-no less!
mortonjag 2008-06-11 14:16:57
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jun 11 2008, 02:11 PM) [snapback]458719[/snapback]
Yep. Dr's Christian Troy and Sean McNamara. smile.gif

According to the missus anyway.

Aye right! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

So there are NO botox clinics in Inverclyde-I'll bet Pishley's already got at least one! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-11 14:56:25
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jun 11 2008, 02:29 PM) [snapback]458724[/snapback]
Elongating the initial he is just plain silly in this context - you obviously do not know your ass from your elbow! tongue.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Don't be stubborn-everybody knows a Donkey says Heeee Haw-NOT He-Haaaw

You'll be telling me next that a c*ck says c*** a DOODLE doo

or a cuckoo goes coo COO

Anyway-HAS Shoogly paid you off?

mortonjag 2008-06-11 15:02:30 laugh.gif

'Can it be that it was all so simple then, or has time re-written every line'?

Poor Del-he got a rough deal from JM and Shoogly-the majority of fans were overly critical, and when he left, very few shed any tears.

I for one remember the young Derek-as Allan McGraw said, when he was motoring, Morton were motoring. He came back to us largely as a target man, and because we didn't have the players who could feed off him (McGowan included) he took stick for not getting the goals himself.

I hope he enjoys his spell at Station Park.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 15:50:08
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jun 11 2008, 03:30 PM) [snapback]458744[/snapback]
You're at it again - JM was responsible for footballing matters, not Rae. The personnel and the way we played then might not have suited Lilley's game, but that's hardly Rae's fault. He appointed a manager (who at that time looked to be a good prospect) and he delegated the footballing decisions to him.



On the contrary YOU are at it again.

If you can prove that Mr Rae took nothing to do with 'footballing matters' I shall apologise. The information I have from reliable sources suggests quite the opposite-indeed, on one VERY important 'footballing matter' is seems that JM may have been deliberately kept 'in the cold'.

Now please don't spoil this by turning it yet again into an attack on Mortonjag-as I said I trust my sources, and in the situation I mentioned last I have documentary evidence.

You are perfectly entitled to your opinion-just make it clear that it is ONLY YOUR OPINION, and NOT fact as you seem to present it in the highlighted text.

mortonjag 2008-06-11 15:59:46
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jun 11 2008, 03:45 PM) [snapback]458745[/snapback]
I would not presume to tell the great MJ anything! Why not check your own posts... tongue.gif rolleyes.gif wink.gif


So Shoogly hasn't paid you off-that's what I thought-give him my regards please. I'm ever gracious even if I do believe he's an old duffer.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 16:04:37
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 11 2008, 03:49 PM) [snapback]458746[/snapback]
I honestly wondered how long it would be before the club started charging disabled fans that can walk a normal entry fee. I now wonder if they will start charging wheelchair users too, my issue with that is they would be making money from a area of the ground payed for solely by the fans themselves. no matter what changes there has been to the legislation on disability issues the club can still give any section of the community a free season ticket they want or a discounted season ticket if they wish.
Another own goal as far as the club is concerned. sad.gif

What's the background to this Jim? Disability is not defined by the ability to walk or otherwise. The Disability Discrimination Act was passed in an attempt to clarify certain issues, and it might just be that 'The Club' is in breach-IF they have altered a previous arrangement.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 16:08:59
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jun 11 2008, 04:04 PM) [snapback]458751[/snapback]
you ARE at it again - yet another thread that you are hijacking to suit your own agenda.

Let's drop it and get this thread back to talking about a man who was a good servant to Morton.

This thread is not the place, Start your own thread (for a change) and make it clear in the title that it's another rant against the board, please, so that I can ignore it.

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In other words you were the one who was 'spouting pish'!

Why is it that you pathetic sycophants can NEVER admit defeat-oh and don't accuse me of the same.


Mortonjag is NEVER wrong. cool.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-11 16:13:43
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 11 2008, 03:59 PM) [snapback]458748[/snapback]
Oh thanks for reminding me Tom. tongue.gif
Another unionist myth is that Bonnie Prince Charlie was gay, he was not. His mistress in Scotland was called Clementina Walkinshaw, they has an illegitimate daughter called Charlotte, Duchess of Albany.
Clementina died in 1802....

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So he once shagged a wummin!

Big f*ckin' deal-I reckon he was a raging poofter who took it up the arse two at a time while trimming his nails.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 16:17:00
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 11 2008, 04:13 PM) [snapback]458753[/snapback]
But according to the tele the club got advice from the proper sources before bringing in the change

Did it also get advice from the proper sources about a defibrillator?

Anyway Puggs-what's the actual story or do you have a link to the Tilly story?
mortonjag 2008-06-11 16:28:16
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jun 11 2008, 04:20 PM) [snapback]458757[/snapback]
1. I'm not pathetic.
2. I'm not a sycophant.
3. yes, you are - regularly.

Go into politics, MJ - that's where your talents for obfuscation, bluff and mendacity would be better used.

Now, back on topic - Derek Lilley=good guy. End of.

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That's almost a copy and paste of a post you made previously when you wouldn't concede you were wrong. In my extremely humble opinion you are a pathetic sycophant whom I have invited to prove his allegations upon which I shall freely proffer an apology.

What I stated was correct.

What you stated was wrong.


Mortonjag is NEVER wrong-get it boy? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-11 16:33:19
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 11 2008, 04:17 PM) [snapback]458756[/snapback]
I'm not sure what the full amendments are but if they change one area they will no doubt change the other.

Aye-but I don't know what they've changed in the first place. Are you saying that folk who could present at the turnstyles last season with proof of disability got concessions, and this year the same folk in the same situation will not? I presume the evidence is receipt of DLA-proof positive that because of disability the holder requires financial assistance. Taking away a previous concession (even if it was voluntary) could be deemed as discriminatory.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 16:38:48
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 11 2008, 04:31 PM) [snapback]458763[/snapback]
Forfar? Oh right. Good luck to him.

What are you doing this Saturday?
mortonjag 2008-06-11 16:45:45
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 11 2008, 04:40 PM) [snapback]458768[/snapback]
You are thinking of Cliff Richard........ rolleyes.gif

Don't be daft-SIR Cliff has his personal manicurist.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 16:48:24
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Jun 11 2008, 04:40 PM) [snapback]458769[/snapback]
I find it madness that a topic posted in the " General Nonsense " section about a funny vid i watched on you tube can be changed into another post with people arguing with MJ. I also find it madness that MJ post's about morton and would you adam and eve it Dougie when it's the general nonsense forum.

MJ you are one horrible little man...



Indeed I am my friend-indeed I am! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-11 16:57:13
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Jun 11 2008, 04:47 PM) [snapback]458774[/snapback]
Considering all clubs have to adhere to it......he's a whinger....this may help..disability legislations..

Vader-can YOU please explain what this is all about-all I'm hearing are stories about some change in rules for some disabled fans.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 17:46:26
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 11 2008, 05:25 PM) [snapback]458779[/snapback]
from what i believe the disabled could buy a concession season ticket last year, the club have withdrew the season ticket this year although they can pay in the concession gate each week, ok, but if they move the goal posts there how long befor the take away free entry for wheelchair users to the disabled area the fans paid for?



QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 11 2008, 05:25 PM) [snapback]458780[/snapback]
id say they would be changing everything if its legislation driven.

Well I'm still not entirely clear what this talk of legislation is.

If the club wants to give concessionary season tickets to disabled folk that's its prerogative. It does, however, establish a precedent whereby disabled people get easier access via the season ticket turnstyles (ambulant disabled folk that is), for whom queuing is at least a significant inconvenience while for some it may be almost impossible.

I'll give you an unusual example-a guy with severe angina doesn't look disabled but it's a HUGE advantage to him to know he can arrive at the ground with no hassle physical or mental-BOTH of which could bring on severe chest pain or even a coronary.

In that respect a decision to take away the season ticket concession from ambulant disabled folk is discriminatory, not only because it puts them at a disadvantage over able bodied folk in the queuing stakes, but because it REMOVES A PRECEDENT.

Logistically it's crazy too-instead of getting money up front 'the club' now has to gamble on folk bothering their arses to come every single time-crazy IMO.

I think the club has totally missed the point-they are maybe not discriminating financially against anybody except themselves-nothing new there-but they ARE discriminating by placing ambulant disabled folk in 'competition' with able bodied fans who in all probability won't even appreciate they are disabled. They are forcing them to give up a safer and more acceptable method of admission.

That is absolutely immoral IMO and plainly discriminative, even if discrimination was not intended.

They aught to get it sorted pronto.

mortonjag 2008-06-11 18:01:08
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jun 11 2008, 04:38 PM) [snapback]458766[/snapback]
A few posts back you said "The information I have from reliable sources suggests quite the opposite-indeed, on one VERY important 'footballing matter' is seems that JM may have been deliberately kept 'in the cold'. "
Practice what you preach for once, auld yin. Spit oot your information, or give us peace.

Put up -or shut up.

Preferably the latter.
Now, back to talking about Derek Lilley.......

You don't give up easily!

You made statements and I challenged you to prove them whereupon I'd apologise. It appears you just made up what you said-at best it was based on what you imagine happened.

I have told you I have evidence to back up my statements-I have also stated that I have shared much of this evidence with several other posters whom I can trust-posters who will read what you are saying.

If you are accusing me of lying, the onus of proof is on you my friend-not on me. I will continue to protect confidences, and will only share information with those whom I trust.

That does NOT include posters like you whose agenda is to undermine my telling the truth, and in so doing endorse the perpetuation of a regime which is riddled with flaws and discrepancies.

Maybe you SHOULD think about what I post before you try to score pathetic brownie points.

Finally, I recall your 'get out' before-aye there were many things about the regime that you didn't like-in fact they were probably almost the same as what Mortonjag doesn't like-isn't that correct, or is my memory fading rapidly and you are one of the three or four who still get a suntan from Shoogly's arsehole. biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-11 18:15:43
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 11 2008, 05:57 PM) [snapback]458788[/snapback]
The full Ipox experience, Rule brittania, Dambusters, great escape.

We must though, as an academy of taigish instruction draw the line at
"Oh, no pope of Rome
No chapels to sadden my eyes
no nuns and no priests, no rosary beads
and everyday's like the 12th of July"

to the choon of "Home on the range".

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Oh give me a home where the young haggis roam
and the pibrochs are piped every day
where the wild Salmond leaps
on the back of a sheep
just to prove that he's bestial, not gay


Home Holyrood home
where Soapy can splutter and foam
as oft as he likes, and there ain't any dykes
and there's certainly no Pope of Rome.


Oh I love those wild flowers in this dear land of ours
and I love to hear Nickerless scream
as she gets off her rocks sooking big tartan c*cks
which old Soapy has covered in cream

Home Holyrood home
where Soapy can splutter and foam
as oft as he likes, and there ain't any dykes
and there's certainly no Pope of Rome


How often at night when I've been that bit tight
and the whole thing's just seemed like a farce
have I stood there amazed, and enquired as I gazed
'Is Soapy still stuck up my arse'?


Home Holyrood home
where Soapy can splutter and foam
as oft as he likes, and there ain't any dykes
and there's certainly no Pope of Rome.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 18:23:26
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jun 11 2008, 06:11 PM) [snapback]458791[/snapback]
YAWN.........
Good luck, Derek Lilley!!




Saying 'yawn' to Mortonjag ALWAYS equates with having taken a right good hammering-it's actually better to give up quietly, and BTW you chose to ignore this perhaps! rolleyes.gif

I for one remember the young Derek-as Allan McGraw said, when he was motoring, Morton were motoring. He came back to us largely as a target man, and because we didn't have the players who could feed off him (McGowan included) he took stick for not getting the goals himself.

I hope he enjoys his spell at Station Park.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 19:08:33
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 11 2008, 06:40 PM) [snapback]458797[/snapback]
but at least one person does, probably a few more; those are the 'they'
nor did i suggest that 'the truth' was for your ear alone
alistair donald knows and he hasn't issued a public statement. anyone else who knows presumably considers it confidential. i can't see what all the fuss is about.




TrumpingTon


post Today, 08:33 AM










why do you think they should share 'the truth' with you? huh.gif




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mortonjag 2008-06-11 19:52:58
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 11 2008, 07:38 PM) [snapback]458807[/snapback]
Wrong again Tom. He was over 6ft tongue.gif

What bearing has this in modern day Scotland ? rolleyes.gif I just like dispelling unionist myths laugh.gif

Aye in high heels and measured to the top of his pokey hat Spurtle.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 19:55:27
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 11 2008, 07:47 PM) [snapback]458809[/snapback]
my betting skills aren't as bad as you think, £10 on spain and Sweden to win at 7/2 got me a nice tidy £45. £3 on 2-0 Sweden with Ibrahimovic to score first at 45/1 got me £138. So thats £183 with £13 biggrin.gif

my luck has turned tongue.gif

now just need a Turkey win for another £100. Come on you Turks!!!

Oh I hope they do for you darling though I have a wee sneaky feeling the Swiss will pull a surprise.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 20:08:36
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jun 11 2008, 07:30 PM) [snapback]458806[/snapback]
He wasn't brought back to play as a target man but after watching his first match in his second spell - a pre-season friendly at Northwich Victoria - it was obvious that his pace was totally gone and that the only role he could fulfill would be as a target man. Even then he didn't play that role well. He spent most of his time giving fouls away by ramming into defenders without even looking at the ball - which I think was down to his own frustration that he had lost his pace.

What do you mean Shoogly gave him a rough deal?
I've always thought it was the case that Rae's sentimentality meant that guys like Warren Hawke, Derek Collins, Alan Mahood and Derek Lilley were treated well. All returned for a second spell with Rae as chairman.

Derek was my favourite player in his first spell and probably my favourite ever Morton player but in my opinion it was obvious that he was done after that Northwich game. I think that's backed up by the fact that he couldn't even get a game for a Stirling Albion side that was bottom of the league.

Good luck to him at Forfar though.


My understanding was that he was dealt with in what I regard as an ungentlemanly way when he was finally shown the door allowed to leave.

I do agree with you that his pace had gone, but I don't agree that he wasn't worth his place for much of the time-his so called 'co-strikers' were non existent, and in game after game he worked his baws off alongside guys who hadn't the wit or ability to link with him-and sure he must have got frustrated, especially when JM stuck him on the bench and others were doing NO better. Don't forget he was playing up a division at Stirling-how many ex JM players really 'cut it' last season anyway?

I DO think he got short shrift, and I DO believe JM had his wee favourites-only my opinion mind!
mortonjag 2008-06-11 20:12:42
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 11 2008, 07:40 PM) [snapback]458808[/snapback]
Season ticket holders can use any gate which can fast track them into the ground (you know that though)

Of course he does-itchy baws is another who thinks it's a feather in his cap if he upstages the Jag, but they NEVER do.

Scabetic Scrotum I shall now call him.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 21:17:42
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jun 11 2008, 08:55 PM) [snapback]458832[/snapback]
I don't know how he was treated so can't comment authoritatively. My suspicion is that any poor treatment would have been as a result of Jim McInally's actions rather than Rae's.

I strongly disagree. I thought he was absolutely done in his second spell and offered nothing except giving fouls away by barging into people; never mind being that much better than his team mates that they didn't have the wit to link up with him.
I think you are spot on here SramTon.

I really can't understand your logic-I agree that Rae did always seem to have an almost daft loyalty to ex Ton stars, but it's absolutely cast in stone that he also had the final say in everything!

Your second point-and Scram's-well it IS after all down to opinion-Del was left to plough a lone furrow-constantly expected to pick up, hold up, and distribute long ball after long ball-he frustrated me often, but I could also see that he was let down by LACK OF EXPERIENCE and guile from the younger boys.

I also find it hard to believe that St Johnstone took him without at least a wee bit of research-are you suggesting that Derek McInnes asked Owen Coyle to take him just to make up the numbers?
mortonjag 2008-06-11 21:22:05
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 11 2008, 09:16 PM) [snapback]458836[/snapback]
I bet you've cut a few toenails in your day... rolleyes.gif

I have in fact removed many toenails.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 21:39:58
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jun 11 2008, 09:30 PM) [snapback]458841[/snapback]
its gone off topic again and i still dont actually know what this thread is about

Is that not a contradiction in terms?

Anyway just go back to the very first post, and click the link.

Spurtle's childish sense of 'humour' inevitably leads to digression!
mortonjag 2008-06-11 21:54:58
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Jun 11 2008, 09:40 PM) [snapback]458843[/snapback]
hi MJ. Its not actually a case of some changes for some disabled folk its a change for all. None judgemantal, none discretional. You cant change a ruling/law for one person and decide the rest can be left out. Simply the club has, i believe, been taken a lone of as have many others, when it comes to the concessions rates. How many folk do we know who work ft yet choose to pay with a broo card ? Constantly may i add and possibly be the same folk who whine about the club not raising enough funds. Off topic there sorry. But what exactly should termed disabled? This rulin has affected all clubs...claiming your disabled is as easy as applying to the dla. Proving your disability on the other hand...what is the disability and how does it affect your life. Just the tip of the iceberg.

Vader, if anybody understands what you are saying, I do. I was a Medical Examiner for the DHSS/DSS for almost twenty years-my job WAS to decide who was genuinely disabled as distinct from those who were just chancers (plenty of those) or who genuinely THOUGHT they fulfilled the criteria when they did not. I've also seen disability from the other side. My ex-wife was turned from a very fit and active woman to a cripple in a few short years by MS, and she's now almost housebound/wheelchair bound. My brother-an extremely fit and active man has been destroyed by ME.

I STILL don't know exactly what it is that the club has done, but what's the problem in assessing disability when it's already been done for them? If folk are significantly disabled they will be in receipt of DLA in one form or another-which they CAN PROVE, and let me assure you everything is weighted AGAINST you nowadays when you apply. It's not a tip of an iceberg at all if they check as I've suggested. If they were previously accepting 'disability' without proof-then hell mend them!
mortonjag 2008-06-11 22:07:54
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jun 11 2008, 09:42 PM) [snapback]458844[/snapback]
probably is, anyway i meant is this about keeping scotland and england together or for them to seperate?



It's actually about Spurtle's burning desire to have them separate, allied to his almost psychotically paranoid belief that there is some devious underground indoctrination force which is brainwashing good Scots into favouring the Union.

Anybody (except Mr Bam who is a Tory) who dares to question Bawheid Salmond (Spurtle's role model and I suspect, preferred shag-- though he much protests his straightness) is labelled a 'Unionist'-a decidedly nasty sweary word which for some reason still comes up without the little asterisks half way through it.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 22:19:59
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Jun 11 2008, 10:07 PM) [snapback]458851[/snapback]
The Moronjag gets it right again !!

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QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jun 11 2008, 10:10 PM) [snapback]458853[/snapback]
Aye, he never tires of telling folk that he's NEVER wrong. rolleyes.gif

Mortonjag is NEVER wrong! Right and wrong relate to fact-NOT opinion, let alone prediction

Mortonjag-just like lesser mortals- does NOT claim to have prophetic powers on ALL occasions.

In any case that game should have been abandoned-how could a side from a land locked country like Switzerland be expected to swim as well as them Turkeys?
mortonjag 2008-06-11 22:31:45
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 11 2008, 10:15 PM) [snapback]458860[/snapback]
dear oh dear, you see what you want to see, don't you? note further (loose) use of 'you' tongue.gif

in the post you quote, 'you' was both singular and (implicitly) plural - if i had meant it to be singular only, i would have said so smile.gif

the point is, why do you feel so insistent on knowing (and sharing) alistair donald's presumably private and confidential business plan (if indeed he has one)?

i think this is the third time of asking rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif

Wriggling and squirming like a pubescent teenager caught smoking behind the bike sheds does you no credit Trumpet.

Stop trying to play games-you are not amusing me and I doubt if anybody else can be arsed any more with your constant sniping.

FACT-many folk feel that it's bizarre that AD is 'a Director' whose personal wealth makes Rae look like a pauper, yet who seems uninvolved in ANY way with the club. Perhaps a little more interest of this kind could have prevented the farcical end to Scott's tenure at Cappielow, yet you'd rather protect his 'private and confidential business plan'!

Is that it?

If so I can confidently tell you to go and f*ck yourself.

If, of course, you just can't take your hands off me-I do understand-I have that certain irresistible Lorelei effect on the Board's thickos.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 22:35:58
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 11 2008, 10:23 PM) [snapback]458866[/snapback]
switzerland only took the lead because of the weather, Turkey would have stuffed them ( wink.gif ) if the weather had been good, instead of giving me a heart attack. Also i got my wish of two turkey players sandwhiching a player in the first half so i could say its a turkey sandwhich. its been a good day smile.gif

While you are squandering those new found riches, please don't forget our date on Saturday, and it's your turn to buy the balloons.
mortonjag 2008-06-11 22:38:58
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jun 11 2008, 10:14 PM) [snapback]458859[/snapback]
right now I follow, personally I would love to see Scotland get its independence and separate from the union of the 2 countries. But its probably not in Scotland's best interest yet. one day hopefully. And im definitely not a unionist, probably more a socialist. But Salmond I do no trust even a little bit. I dont think he has any ones interests in mind except his own.

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You are about to be called a Unionist by Claymore C*ck!
mortonjag 2008-06-11 22:41:28
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 11 2008, 10:39 PM) [snapback]458872[/snapback]
put on your finest dress baby, im taking you out for some fine dining!



Excellent-is the Deeglet joining our shagathon?

I'll get back to you in the morning-I'm overcome with fatigue, and the Monkey insists I go to bed with him NOW. It's been a wearing day PT-lots of nasty nasty people with only one agenda, but fing always takes careful note of the offenders-they won't feel so smug when they are permanently nailed to the ceiling by their knobs prior to ritual incineration over six and a half days.

I'm glad I got that off my chest-cant do much about the ageing tits mind you.
mortonjag 2008-06-12 07:32:11
QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Jun 11 2008, 10:46 PM) [snapback]458874[/snapback]
That's never stopped you before.


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QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 11 2008, 10:49 PM) [snapback]458877[/snapback]
many?

bizarre?

i'll give you curious though smile.gif

mind you, your last sentence (quoted above) is indeed bizarre, unless it's supported by your snippet of private information. do tell.

i'm just curious why you're so insistent. why dont you write to him and ask him what his intentions are?

oh, and "constant sniping" laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


You are just 'sniping'.
QUOTE(Last Boat Home @ Jun 11 2008, 11:20 PM) [snapback]458884[/snapback]
No one else think this is the all time greatest example of pot, kettle, black etc blink.gif


More sniping


QUOTE(El gofer @ Jun 11 2008, 11:31 PM) [snapback]458887[/snapback]
COuld you expand a bit on your reference to the "farcical end to the Scott era"? Just curious about Donald's position seven years ago being relevant.

I thought you were intelligent-that is either more sniping or you are pissed.

QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 11 2008, 11:38 PM) [snapback]458890[/snapback]
anonymous trust member outed ohmy.gif
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QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jun 11 2008, 11:49 PM) [snapback]458892[/snapback]
what do you need to bring me into this for? nothing to do with me.

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That final comment from the only 'NON THICKO' made me snigger WDE.

One good thing is that the anti Jag snipers are all firing at once now from the same direction. The clowns don't seem to realise that the rest of the forum can see them for what they are worth, and they are no bloody good to Greenock Morton if they want to stifle legitimate questions about the Cappielow Mafia.
mortonjag 2008-06-12 07:48:31
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jun 11 2008, 10:17 PM) [snapback]458862[/snapback]
Exactly, so can you please stop dressing it up as fact? Thank you. smile.gif

Can you please learn to read and understand plain English young man. Mortonjag is NEVER factually wrong, and you know it. That was plainly an opinion, as those of any wit will have clearly seen.

QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jun 12 2008, 01:39 AM) [snapback]458900[/snapback]
There's not really much point on me speculating on what happened with Derek Lilley as I really don't have a clue.

Yeah, I agree it is a matter of opinion. We'll have to agree to disagree.

I'm not saying McInnes told Coyle to sign him to make up the numbers but that is most certainly all he did. In his time at St. Johnstone Lilley didn't start one game - all his appearances were as a sub - and he didn't score a goal. I could've told them Lilley would've been no use to them in the 1st division so on that basis no, I don't think they carried out any research. I think they signed him based on former glories.


It was easy to view Del as a duffer when you saw him as a shadow of his former self. It's equally easy to view guys like Wakey and Kev as superstars when in fact they are duffers.

Derek was a huge disappointment at Cappielow. The truth is that he worked just as hard as his younger colleagues, constantly leading by example, but JM's rag bag of unmotivated misfits couldn't link as well as bloody Lawson's sausages. Attractive attacking football left with Cowboy. One of the reasons wee Gowsa was SO bloody useless at times was again the general dumbness and duffness of fellow forwards and midfielders NOT ever helped by the club's best striker languishing in defence.



Yes- we 75% of myopic clowns have full confidence in the Manager's ability-oh and we f*ckin' HATE that Mortonjag! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


mortonjag 2008-06-12 07:53:20
QUOTE(The Shuffler @ Jun 12 2008, 07:44 AM) [snapback]458914[/snapback]
Mentions in this mornings paper that we are one of several "interested" teams looking at Kevin Cuthbert.

Livie being touted as favourites to sign him though unsure.gif

Greacen's Genitals will not be changing his name to Cuthbert's C*nt! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-12 07:55:36
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 11 2008, 11:15 PM) [snapback]458882[/snapback]
your arse!

and please reverse genitally.
mortonjag 2008-06-12 08:11:16
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jun 11 2008, 10:47 PM) [snapback]458875[/snapback]
hahaha then i shall be a social-unionist wink.gif

but dont ou agree he seems single minded? all he's interested in is independence, not whats best for Scotland


I'm confused-do you mean Spurtle or Bawheid, but................aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh




SPURTLE is Salmond!


Everything is explained-how clever of you first minister-infiltrating every football forum in Scotland under a different alias-I salute your energy, and promise in future to treat you with due respect your Soutarship. I won't tell a bloody soul, but is it true that you take it up the arse, Moira is a virgin, and wee Nickerless shaves her fudd AND her face?
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 12 2008, 06:46 AM) [snapback]458901[/snapback]
the sash Mia Farrow wore

... was that when she was young and beautiful ?

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indeed Newt-in the good old days of eyore, when they suspended Donkey Dave with a Tory rope and the sash Mia Farrow wore.
mortonjag 2008-06-12 08:16:00
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 12 2008, 07:30 AM) [snapback]458908[/snapback]
I invite you all to come online and become one of my friends.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=579056
It must be my mind, but ...

Nothing sinister in it Newt and it will be a welcome rest for the housekeeper's c*nt.
mortonjag 2008-06-12 08:24:24
QUOTE(se65an @ Jun 12 2008, 07:37 AM) [snapback]458911[/snapback]
Would he not be Scottish is he came from any other town in Scotland unsure.gif blink.gif

I have to say it sounds better than a 'Scottish Grandpa who came from Gre£na'.


Maybe I should invest my £100.000 in Gretna Shinty club. They'd have far more chance of making a success than yon' football club they once had. The Social Club would be a right wee money spinner.

I would ask Lex Gold to do the official opening-that liquidiser guy could come if he wanted-they'd get a hero's welcome in the wee City.
mortonjag 2008-06-12 08:36:58
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 12 2008, 08:29 AM) [snapback]458927[/snapback]
Now what about investing that 100k in a social club for the GMS, we have loads of craking idieas to make a huge success of running it. wink.gif

The trouble is that it's not MY money. Once my investment starts to produce a good income stream I shall most certainly be looking at ways to support the Ton-but NEVER while the current incumbent is allowing it to toddle along aimlessly!

Is it possible that others out there think the same way about helping the club financially right now? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-12 08:41:39
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 12 2008, 08:19 AM) [snapback]458925[/snapback]
So, using MidTon's and Barbarossa's logic from a previous thread on representing Scotland if you're not born in the country; they wouldn't have supported the Polish/Italian pretender, even though he may have had a bit of Scottish in him (feel free to make your own gag Tom/MJ).
Was it the Duke of Wellington who was born in Ireland and stated "Being born in a stable does not make you a horse."

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'Being born in a stable does not make you look like a horse but you are guaranteed your daily oats even if you do'.

Donkey Dave.
mortonjag 2008-06-12 09:00:42
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 12 2008, 07:46 AM) [snapback]458915[/snapback]



Those English never make it simple-first she claims she's a virgin and then adds 'no shagging allowed'.

Let's cracker this one.

English female, 20s, brunette, curvy (38B-30-38)...POTENTIALLY (depends on replies) looking for attractive, 100% Scottish guy (20-30yo) for NSA encounter. And when I say 'maiden', I do mean it. I'm a virgin.

This is genuine, but there are no guarantees and I'm not desperate. Like I said, it depends on the replies I get. Send me a pic, and if I'm interested, I'll send one back and explain more.


29 year old ugly slag who's been shagged around the block and back and can't hold down a relationship thinks the Scots are mugs!
mortonjag 2008-06-12 09:05:30
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 12 2008, 09:00 AM) [snapback]458935[/snapback]
I think I was looking for information on Charlie, the Bonny Prince.

there was something on gumtree.com

and I clicked on the Glasgow button as there is no Greenock buffoon.

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mortonjag 2008-06-12 09:07:54
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 12 2008, 08:57 AM) [snapback]458932[/snapback]
Too crude MJ, too crude laugh.gif

Crudeness and rudeness are mere perceptions your Sexlessness-please answer the question.
mortonjag 2008-06-12 09:11:15
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 12 2008, 09:03 AM) [snapback]458936[/snapback]
i've no problem with questions, and have done nothing to stifle questions. i've suggested how questions might be answered, and copied the answers of others

i'm curious but not obsessive about alistair donald's potential investment

oh, and constant sniping laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

You are entitled to plead 'not guilty'. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-12 09:40:22
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 12 2008, 09:21 AM) [snapback]458944[/snapback]
Whit question ? blink.gif




SEE-I knew all the time you were a bloody politician-well you can't evade Mortonjag, Your Hollowness-do you take it up the arse-is Moira a virgin-does wee Nickerless shave fudd and face-oh and while I'm on do you think yer Yankee pal will pull it off or will he need a helping hand from your goodself?
mortonjag 2008-06-12 11:58:02
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jun 12 2008, 10:56 AM) [snapback]458958[/snapback]
i seen an advert in the telegraph a coupl of nights ago, someone was advertising botox, think they came to your house and did it!


Interesting-I'm curious to know more.
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jun 12 2008, 11:03 AM) [snapback]458962[/snapback]
I saw that the other night as well. Imagine turning up at work the next day with a plastic face like Amanda Holden, did you see her on Britains Got Talent? ohmy.gif


It takes a wee bit longer than that to work! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-12 12:00:09
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 12 2008, 11:14 AM) [snapback]458965[/snapback]

That's a steal! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-12 12:15:11
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jun 12 2008, 12:09 PM) [snapback]458993[/snapback]
That's your truth, not mine. wink.gif

I like you-you have a lovely way of saying 'Stop spouting more pish your old paedo'! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-12 12:55:27
QUOTE(BMC @ Jun 12 2008, 12:41 PM) [snapback]459000[/snapback]
http://archive.nics.gov.uk/hss/051101l-hss.htm

Intresting article on the advertisement of botox.

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The biggest joke is that the fine would have more than been paid for by one treatment-something Irish about that story! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-12 13:00:38
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jun 12 2008, 12:51 PM) [snapback]459006[/snapback]
At the moment we have Stewart Greacen, Ryan Harding, Allan McManus and Alex Walker to play in the centre of defence. If you include MacGregor - he still has a year on his contract - that's five players capable of playing in the centre of defence which is adequate cover in my opinion. If MacGregor does get a move maybe Irons would use the free wages to bring in another defender in his place anyway.

I'm concerned that at the Q & A Irons bemoaned the fact we didn't have any natural full backs - meaning he didn't have much scope for changing our formation last season - but looks like he isn't going to bother signing any either.

If he wants them and isn't getting them point the finger elsewhere.

Shoogly's skint.
mortonjag 2008-06-12 13:06:57
QUOTE(Dr Zhivago @ Jun 12 2008, 01:02 PM) [snapback]459014[/snapback]
Pretty decent looking team we have. The glaring weakness is up front... Wake finished the season strongly but we've got no idea if he can perform consistently. I also can't see Russell or Weatherson scoring a lot of goals for us, it's doubtful if either of them are good enough (whether that be in terms of ability or attitude) for a decent First Division team.

The supply to ALL of our attackers last season was nothing short of abysmal, so I wouldn't be too hasty to write those two off. We STILL have failed to sign a proper winger, and if anybody mentions McAlister or Finlayson, I think I'll greet!

Pantaloons' long throw ins created more scoring chances in three or four games, than the rest of that lot did all season.
mortonjag 2008-06-12 13:24:52
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 12 2008, 01:17 PM) [snapback]459021[/snapback]
laugh.gif theres time yet tongue.gif

Remember last closed season Bryan-it got to this stage and we all still hoped and believed we'd get signings-then folk started to panic a wee bit and Shoogly, whom we now know thought that lot could 'cut it' claimed he 'wouldn't be bullied into signing players'.

Hee hee-that was choice when the old eejit was willing to shell out £100.000 for McGowan till that went tits up. He could probably have got three decent players for that price!

Anyway-what do you mean by 'there's time'-is Alistair Donald camping outside the Fudgy Wudgy boilers waiting for the price of sugar to double overnight? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-12 13:31:11
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 12 2008, 01:21 PM) [snapback]459023[/snapback]




SO?
mortonjag 2008-06-12 13:34:25
QUOTE(pgmsc @ Jun 12 2008, 01:29 PM) [snapback]459025[/snapback]
Because we have not been linked with anyone means sod all

True-the fact that Shoogly's skint doesn't.
mortonjag 2008-06-12 13:37:55
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jun 12 2008, 11:24 AM) [snapback]458972[/snapback]
I would hope the intention would be that we wont know who the 1st choice will be, and that both keepers will work their balls off during pre-season to make the number 1 shirt their own.

Cuthbert would be a good signing IMO, but out of all the keepers that are available, I would want Bryn Halliwell.

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mortonjag 2008-06-12 13:43:03
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 12 2008, 01:35 PM) [snapback]459029[/snapback]
Sew buttons ?? blink.gif

So it might be an idea if you really want to encourage healthy debate to voice your opinion instead of posting links to cryptic gurglings from elsewhere.

Mind you I live in the eternal hope of doing one of your wee 'clickys' and seeing Bawheid jammed up Soutar's arse while wee Sturgeon sits naked on a tartan pouffe waxing her moustache with Orkney cheese.
mortonjag 2008-06-12 13:45:18
QUOTE(rex manning @ Jun 12 2008, 01:38 PM) [snapback]459031[/snapback]
4th day of the mother of all hangovers, not a drop of alochol has passed my lips since 11:32am on Monday, surely i should be better by now?

should i reach for the tesco flu capsules and end it all?


4 days.

I dont really have that much to live for.

4 f@cking days!

Be sure to read the label first.
mortonjag 2008-06-12 13:50:15
QUOTE(pgmsc @ Jun 12 2008, 01:39 PM) [snapback]459033[/snapback]
It is becoming tiresome MJ great how you know so much about Raes circumstances

PS Should your doesn't not be does?

Good-the message is getting through then-why is my telling the truth tiresome?

....and my 'doesn't' was meant to be 'doesn't'-I've told you repeatedly-Mortonjag does NOT make mistakes.
mortonjag 2008-06-12 13:53:47
QUOTE(The Shuffler @ Jun 12 2008, 01:50 PM) [snapback]459038[/snapback]

I could have entitled that 'The intelligence of the average pubic massage board poster' but I won't.
mortonjag 2008-06-12 14:12:49
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jun 12 2008, 02:03 PM) [snapback]459044[/snapback]
i dont know why everyones suggested mcguffie for their teams
hes s***e

I don't think McGuffie's a bad player, and I DO believe he'll be one of our more valuable assets next season.

Incidentally, I'd happily have seen Finlayson go, and equally happily seen Jimbo go for a decent little fee-they ended up a pair of JM's laboratory mice and even DI couldn't unprogramme them. McGregor off too-no place for him in a small squad. We still have one goalie, no full backs, and no proper wing players.

That would make most decent managers cringe.

The money's just not there, and DI is going to be expected to produce a lot from very little-I feel sorry for him, but I guess when you have a mortgage to pay and a family to feed Rae was better than a P45.
mortonjag 2008-06-12 14:15:43
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 12 2008, 02:10 PM) [snapback]459046[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDFing approves.
mortonjag 2008-06-12 14:17:29
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 12 2008, 01:44 PM) [snapback]459035[/snapback]
How Long Before Suicide Becomes A Viable Option?
Depends how long MJ has been posting for tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-06-12 14:19:52
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jun 12 2008, 02:05 PM) [snapback]459045[/snapback]
anyone know what its called
i already get a gaelic channel on freeview, the aptly named teleg

blawin an gael
mortonjag 2008-06-12 14:28:51 Who's in charge of this bloody weather-I want to make an official complaint-it's less predictable than the lottery numbers those days, and it's doing my effin nut in.

Rainy days-I can cope-I don't like them but they don't kid you on.

Brilliant summers' days like they used to make when I was a wee boy, and the Jag's half human.

Days like this when that c*nt of a sun is a pure tease make me homicidal.

It must be Douglas Rae's fault-that man has A LOT to answer for. mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-12 14:33:07
QUOTE(grnklad2006ton @ Jun 12 2008, 02:23 PM) [snapback]459057[/snapback]
Weatherson laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif Its even more clear to me now that we defo need a quality striker. That is not a bad team at all we have until i got to the strikers then sorry but couldn't help but laugh. Stricker surely has to be our main target now. Still not made my mind up on wake, yes he did help to save us and he came good in the end, will be interesting to see him starting every week in a new season. Not a bad team at all folks, but please Weatherson and Russell dont make me laugh. If theres one thing i want to see improve this year then its goals scored and killing teams off. SPL striker needed folks even one, just one or give us one for xmas santa tongue.gif

Laugh till you burst matey-it's good for you.

Better still-laugh at something funny. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-12 14:36:54
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jun 12 2008, 02:22 PM) [snapback]459056[/snapback]
Its someone called Alison and her number is 01475 888109!

let me know if she is any good mj laugh.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Have you still got the actual ad?

Does she mention her qualifications and how much she charges for a session. I realise that sounds like a risque question, but I'd really like to know! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-12 14:38:54
QUOTE(rex manning @ Jun 12 2008, 02:25 PM) [snapback]459058[/snapback]
Boozy your a pr1ck.

I've done some serious internal damage and this is the sympathy i receive?

I'm giving my kidneys 26 hours to sort it out or i'm removing them. harsh but fair i think.
Boozy just appeared with a resolve, i take it all back, what a guy.

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mortonjag 2008-06-12 14:49:01
QUOTE(cmdc @ Jun 12 2008, 02:35 PM) [snapback]459062[/snapback]
I think most successful managers at this level are expected to produce a lot from very little. It seems to be the way of things in Scottish football, with not a great deal of cash going around. However, Jenkins, McGuffie, McManaus, Paartalu and even Irons/Collins wont have come cheap - so, all else being equal, we probably have enough money to make ourselves competitive. Whether that will in fact be the case remains to be seen.

Yes-I understand what you say, but it's the highlighted part that is my bone of contention. It's been said time after time by folk outside of Inverclyde that Morton constantly punch below their weight, and until more inward investment is found (it may be very close) we're going to career along somewhat aimlessly. For somebody of my age six or seven years is a hell of an eternity during which I've seen nothing but bumbling incompetence and crass arrogance from the present incumbent at Cappielow.

If you are under-say fifty-you've a good chance of seeing SPL football again in Greenock-otherwise I wouldn't bet on it. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-12 15:39:33
QUOTE(El gofer @ Jun 12 2008, 02:42 PM) [snapback]459065[/snapback]
MJ I wasnt sniping. I was actually genuinely asking for you to expand upon a point you had made.

unsure.gif

Sorry if I misjudged!

Right-that clown Trumpet was babbling on about my having no right to be interested in AD's 'private and confidential business plans-re Morton'. I am an ordinary Ton fan, just like the rest of the folk who post on here.

The truth, of course, is that he is one of the dying breed who attack me just because I provoke them-they don't seem to realise that they are just victims of my superior intelligence and wit! wink.gif

Right-MY POINT- every bloody Morton fan has every bloody right to know what's going on at Board level-had that been the case from day one with the aspirant weasel that is HS, he MIGHT just have been stopped in his verminous tracks. He WASN'T.

We now have only four directors. Two are Raes, a third, by his own confession, is as useful to the average fan as an ashtray on a motorbike, and the fourth is the ubiquitous and exceedingly wealthy Hun-Alistair Donald.

......and we can't afford players, and need new share issues to raise a paltry million pounds to tart up Cappielow, and while I'm on song, the slightest criticism of the Trust provokes a monstrous knee jerk defence, prior to the defendants snuggling back into their respective comfort zones.


It's already Omerta at Cappielow, and that cretin claims the fans have no right to ask questions! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-12 15:51:37
QUOTE(grnklad2006ton @ Jun 12 2008, 02:54 PM) [snapback]459067[/snapback]
Listen pal look at most clubs in our division and there strikers then look at ours and tell me thats not funny. Even better look at our team and then when you get to the bit where our strikers should be you see wetherson and russell and tell me your happy happy with that. You probs think your quite a star on this board for your opinions, but your only known because your opinions are as big a joke as you are. Your not the only morton fan on this board mate who has an opinion on strikers, some agree some do not but thats life so get over it. In fact where you not the dumb fu*k on here the other night and when some guy mentioned Dobbie and Burchill you laughed and took the piss for there opinion ?????? Or i suppose you would still have 2nd division russell and weatherson. You say laugh at something funny im doing that now at you, im in shock that your ok with our strike force. Your ugly monkey could do better up front for us laugh.gif laugh.gif . be serious mate

Nope- and you are obviously confusing me with some arrogant self opinionated old fud who gets folks hackles up the minute he types a full stop.

You think Spoonsy and LEAFY are crap-fine by me and as I said laugh until you bust.

So happens I don't-is that OK with you Sir? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-12 15:55:29
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 12 2008, 03:40 PM) [snapback]459081[/snapback]
Me to. Got to bring Craig down as I am bowling at my dad's club in the morning as well and the Mrs is on backshift. My mum says she will take him down to watch the game in the afternoon.

I would have baby sat if I'd known Weegie-I love running after weans.
mortonjag 2008-06-12 16:10:36
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jun 12 2008, 03:59 PM) [snapback]459084[/snapback]
i dont have it personally, im sure if u popped into the tele office you could buy a copy for 35p and it will tell you more


Cheers but I'm about 25 miles away!

If you spot it again keep me posted. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-12 16:14:17
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 12 2008, 04:02 PM) [snapback]459087[/snapback]
Eh ? unsure.gif

I was posting a link that was relevant to the subject matter of the thread. If/when I decide to make comment on it I'll let you know. dry.gif



I could have sworn that your link was merely to highlight another piece of typical paranoia about them evil inglish trying to dump nukey leer sites in the Holy Land.


Nuclear energy will still be available when the oil runs out Spurtle! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-12 16:18:59
QUOTE(El gofer @ Jun 12 2008, 04:09 PM) [snapback]459088[/snapback]
Fair enough.

I was just trying to work out if it was being suggested that AD could have become involved back in 2000-2001 to stop HS.
As far as I can see it wouldnt have made much difference due to HS and his own agenda.
I wouldnt want to comment on AD's finances 7 years ago, but I fully acknowledge that now he is "on board" we deserve to know what his intentions are.
Seems a bit strange that he would only become involved as a favour to a family friend, given his previous attempt to become involved in football.
Taking our own recent past history into account and the likes of S***t, Pe*en and Brealey, it is only natural and right that we should question this.

Again, I wasnt being spiteful (nor, for once, was I drunk!!) just looking for clarification of a point. This is all down to poor communication me thinks

Or maybe I should rejoin the trust.


The TRUSHHT! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-12 16:24:29
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 12 2008, 04:00 PM) [snapback]459085[/snapback]
Sounds like what I will be doing on the park laugh.gif

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QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 12 2008, 04:01 PM) [snapback]459086[/snapback]
LeyTon is playing you're more than welcome to come down and run after him. laugh.gif

unsure.gif I thought LeyTON was one of the good guys!
mortonjag 2008-06-12 16:30:42
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 12 2008, 04:24 PM) [snapback]459096[/snapback]
I suggest you look at the full clip. It's about the news and how it's reported throughout the UK. rolleyes.gif

I do sincerely apologise-I couldn't stand that effin inglish accent and only watched the first 20 seconds or so!

Oh and I also apologise for calling you paranoid and being crude about Soapy and Bawheid and Nickerless and I promise to mend my ways if you confess your sexuality openly on this pubic massage board.
mortonjag 2008-06-12 16:52:30
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jun 12 2008, 04:33 PM) [snapback]459098[/snapback]
iv just remembered i will probably see it tonight at my friends house, he keeps the papers for some animal that pisses the floor! laugh.gif

I will get it tonight for u and send u a pm

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My Monkey reads all the papers too, but he's utterly continent--cheers! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-12 16:59:19
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 12 2008, 04:41 PM) [snapback]459099[/snapback]
Apology accepted. And I'm 100% hetrosexual.... ohmy.gif



It's the way you say it that rings alarm bells!

I'm sure you probably are as straight as a die-it's just that you always sound like you're trying to convince YOURSELF!

Have you actually tried shagging a man, or are you just convinced it wouldn't be nice. I've never done it myself-largely because of the availability of more appealing orifices and the dog, but if I was in dire need and had broken both wrists and blinded myself in some accident, I guess I wouldn't mind the comfort of a nice warm willie receptacle without bothering too much what it was.

Just my thoughts mind!
mortonjag 2008-06-12 17:02:35
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jun 12 2008, 04:45 PM) [snapback]459100[/snapback]
any chance you could make it grub and free beer?

im not the youngest there am i?
i am!

There are at least two of us then! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-12 17:05:33
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jun 12 2008, 05:02 PM) [snapback]459106[/snapback]
this looks worse

Warning! Not for the squeamish.

Don't say you weren't warned!!

I'm totally serious when I ask what was there to be squeamish about?
mortonjag 2008-06-12 17:36:14
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 12 2008, 05:22 PM) [snapback]459110[/snapback]
Did you forget me then??

I was talking about young men.
mortonjag 2008-06-12 17:38:11 I'm sure I must have got the wrong link-what was I SUPPOSED to see?
mortonjag 2008-06-12 17:41:03
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 12 2008, 05:10 PM) [snapback]459108[/snapback]
No it hasn't even entered my thoughts. And I doubt very much it would ever enter my thoughts no matter what situation I found myself in.

Sorry to disappoint..... mellow.gif

I'm not in the slightest disappointed Spurtle-you're a breath of fresh air on a board full of pouffes and pervs to be honest.

Mind you necessity is the mother of invention! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-12 17:46:35
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 12 2008, 05:30 PM) [snapback]459116[/snapback]
Is it possible to be anything less than 100% hetrosexual?

Och aye man-I have quite a few friends who are 0% heterosexual.

On the dickter scale I'd guess I'm about 95% hetero at this moment in time, but if the bloke next door's in one of his cuddly moods again later tonight-well-c'est la vie n'est ce pas? £200 and the bottle of champagne after he's used it as an opening gesture. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth!
mortonjag 2008-06-12 18:01:42
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jun 12 2008, 05:50 PM) [snapback]459121[/snapback]
its not that bad, my ankle done that when i Broke it

I only saw two boxers!
mortonjag 2008-06-12 18:09:17 Botox treatment-right-I'll confess up front-it'll save the usual filthy comments which I frankly can't be doing with-I have a VERY wrinkly willie, and I was reading that you can remove wrinkles with this Botox treatment. I don't pretend to know nothing about it-after all I'm a quack of sorts, but I need informed information from anyone who knows even the tinsiest little thing about it.

Provided I get a good response, and IF I decide to go for treatment I promise to post a 'before and after' picture on this pubic massage board-and to Deego and port-ton-'shut it youse'!
mortonjag 2008-06-12 18:12:21
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 12 2008, 05:51 PM) [snapback]459122[/snapback]
ohmy.gif laugh.gif



You're only as old as the woman you feel Weegie, and I wouldn't be seen dead with a woman old enough to be my wife.
mortonjag 2008-06-12 18:17:03
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jun 12 2008, 06:03 PM) [snapback]459126[/snapback]
dude kicked him and snapped his shin bone, foot ends up pointing the other way, watch carefully

Oh the rubber leg syndrome-we see guys walking like that every night in the big smoke!
mortonjag 2008-06-12 18:32:41
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 12 2008, 06:19 PM) [snapback]459131[/snapback]
All depends on who is going to see it. If it's just your partner/wife, why go to the extremes of botox?

Unless you are going to give it a public airing ????

That's where you are just SO wrong Spurtle-and I think the same applies to folk who are not happy with any part of their anatomy-not one solitary soul who's seen my willie has ever said it's too wrinkly, but I assure you it is, and I'd really like it sorted. I'm fed up queuing for the cubicles in public toilets and I don't feel over the hill sexually yet. I'm also pretty sure I can afford the treatment.
mortonjag 2008-06-12 19:08:44
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 12 2008, 06:41 PM) [snapback]459134[/snapback]
Unusual for me to be wrong. But I take your point... ohmy.gif

I see we've had almost fifty views already but so far nobody seems to know much about the treatment. That's actually quite surprising-and I say this not as the usual cynical Jag-but as a group our knowledge of most things is pretty encyclopaedic.

Maybe Botox hasn't really caught on up here, though my partner knows one girl who got it done in Glasgow somewhere-she has beautiful breasts-not my partner-her friend-well I've not actually SEEN them but what I've seen is nice and it's NOT silicone, but there I go digressing again.
mortonjag 2008-06-12 19:12:29
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 12 2008, 07:03 PM) [snapback]459142[/snapback]
unsure.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Well they HAVE gone awfy quiet again! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-12 19:18:41
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 12 2008, 07:12 PM) [snapback]459145[/snapback]
I thought that botulinum toxin worked

1. by paralysing muscles
(do you have muscles in the willie?)

2. Only worked for a short time, multiple injections on the willie! ohmy.gif

The willie's full of muscles Mr Bam-it's actually one of the most muscular (and vascular) organs in the body-I've done a wee bit of research and the injections only paralyse the superficial muscles which by contraction cause the dermal wrinkling-the function of the willie itself would be unaffected and the jags only need repeated every four to six months I believe. I know also that most folk only get botox for facial wrinkles, but I'm sure any wrinkly part can be treated. If they do offers I might get my face done too though it's actually ageing quite well.
mortonjag 2008-06-12 19:22:41 Well I see my tip's doing OK so far. can it last?
mortonjag 2008-06-12 20:36:56
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 12 2008, 07:31 PM) [snapback]459152[/snapback]
Why don't you get circumsized? Then you won't have any drawbacks in life... rolleyes.gif

rolleyes.gif

I knew it wouldn't take long. For once I was trying to get a serious response-seems nobody has a bloody clue-full of hot air about every bloody topic-ask a serious question and you realise they know f*ck all-not just you BTW Spurtle-at least you've contributed. sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-12 20:44:28
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jun 12 2008, 07:26 PM) [snapback]459150[/snapback]
As a public service broadcaster the BBC should be ashamed of themselves.

I'm sure the English regions will feel similarly let down. The blanket coverage of the London Mayoral elections was a complete joke, given it was only for the Mayor of one city. I'm sure the Scottish Elections last year will not have had as much network coverage as London got.

Entire episodes of Newsnight and Question Time were were devoted to this issue and broadcast to the entire UK. I'm sure London has opt-out news programmes like Scotland do.

The floods in hull last year were similarly under-reported compared to those in the home counties just outside of London.

The problem with the BBC is that there will be a big press conference... there will be a BBC News team there. BBC Website team. BBC Radio 5 Live team. BBC Radio 4 team. Radio 1 Newsbeat, Radio 2, News 24 etc etc. Completely OTT.

Surely it would not be too much trouble to divert some of these public resources to creating better quality programmes for people who do not live in London and cant rely on the Sky news's myopic view of things, or ITN's increasinly under resourced 'celebrity-focussed' bullitens they broadcast.



If you don't like it piehole switch off-read the Scottish Broadsheets-the Londoners up here don't give a toss that their city with the same population as Scotland never gets a mention.One could even suggest they are mature.

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 12 2008, 07:33 PM) [snapback]459154[/snapback]
Best post of the day !

Pathetic comment-what you really meant was -thank f*ck somebody agrees.

QUOTE(se65an @ Jun 12 2008, 08:12 PM) [snapback]459160[/snapback]
Your in as much shock as me, Piehutt with a post that makes sense blink.gif

Well done Piehutt tongue.gif

Don't-PLEASE Sean-we'll never hear the end of this-he's a f*ckin' torture as it is! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-12 20:51:35
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 12 2008, 07:55 PM) [snapback]459157[/snapback]
want us to state its a nice day or something tongue.gif

Preferably something! laugh.gif

QUOTE(se65an @ Jun 12 2008, 08:27 PM) [snapback]459161[/snapback]
Its been such I nice day, I was dinning out tonight rolleyes.gif

Sean the Trust's 'new broom' at least contributes to our little rag. The rest of the Committee were on here no time back claiming they 'loved the publicity' but they've f*cked back off. Clearly they think they are FAR more important than this little rag-after all it only represents ordinary fans-in that respect they are no better than the Shooglemeister. They claim they want members-the Mods have created a daft and exclusive separate forum where they can mutually pat each others backs-JESUS CHRIST-get a f*ckin' life-we should all be in this together! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-12 22:24:08
QUOTE(se65an @ Jun 12 2008, 09:26 PM) [snapback]459189[/snapback]
I know I know, but I thought it might help him mature tongue.gif

Christ man he's young enough to be my Grandson-maturity only comes with time!
mortonjag 2008-06-12 22:30:08
QUOTE(alexp @ Jun 12 2008, 08:47 PM) [snapback]459169[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDIt's never fair to mock the afflicted-for the first time I am on chocolate boy's side here.
mortonjag 2008-06-12 22:31:51
QUOTE(mortonjag @ Jun 11 2008, 11:15 AM) [snapback]458677[/snapback]
I don't bet often though I got second in the Derby e.w!

Anyway, I've said from the outset that Croatia could surprise everybody, but I'll not be putting money on them.

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mortonjag 2008-06-12 22:35:42
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jun 12 2008, 10:31 PM) [snapback]459227[/snapback]
BBC news like all of the others tend to be London centric and the futher away from London you get the less you will be catered for. It's hardly surprising given the influence of London in both population and political terms and the same issue exists in virtually every country in the world. No idea if a 'Scottish 6' would make a hell of a lot of difference apart from the obvious danger of more dog bites postman stories and those trite 'human interest' efforts that make up for the lack of any real analysis.

Radio news is and probably always will be vastly superior to the mass manufactured, dumbed down sound bits that pass as news on the tv.

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It's all about 'good' TV-TV has become the tabloid in the broadcasting stakes, and it STINKS!
mortonjag 2008-06-12 22:37:55
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jun 12 2008, 10:27 PM) [snapback]459223[/snapback]
plenty
the brave ones will invest in property just now and wait for the market to rise again
also some carol vorderman type business will spring up - debt management etc

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mortonjag 2008-06-12 22:39:36 sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-12 22:46:07
QUOTE(se65an @ Jun 12 2008, 09:18 PM) [snapback]459186[/snapback]
Are you coming along?

I'm afraid my confidence is low Sean-the wrinkly willie embarrasses me so much-I want botox but nobody will help-I'd love to come though-maybe I'll self catheterise and arrive dressed as Shoogly! Will I be welcomed with open arms?
mortonjag 2008-06-12 22:52:25
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jun 12 2008, 09:27 PM) [snapback]459190[/snapback]
No cup games either throughout the season.

I'll not be bothering with a season ticket, it's not much of a saving at all.

Correct young man-a patent rip-off-tried it last season for the first and last time-how did that man EVER manage to sell sweeties?
mortonjag 2008-06-12 22:55:10
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jun 12 2008, 10:13 PM) [snapback]459211[/snapback]
The man talks sense, Deego. rolleyes.gif

I think you're quite a funny wee guy but you're playing the joker card a bit toooo much these days. wink.gif

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Leave my little Deeglet alone-too many too serious guys on here-it's only a pubic massage board when all's said and done! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-12 23:02:22
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jun 12 2008, 10:44 PM) [snapback]459236[/snapback]
Because he likes him very much. rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2008-06-12 23:06:40
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 12 2008, 10:22 PM) [snapback]459216[/snapback]
Why not ? I felt like that at his age.

And still do! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 12 2008, 10:26 PM) [snapback]459222[/snapback]
Ok lets say the Mother and boy are Muslims and don't want to go against their religion, who is wrong now?

Al Qaeda for them!

QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 12 2008, 10:42 PM) [snapback]459235[/snapback]
Tell them to go join a non-christian organisation.

Precisely-no point in trying to join the left handed wankers club if you don't believe in masturbation.
mortonjag 2008-06-12 23:11:12
QUOTE(standman @ Jun 12 2008, 10:42 PM) [snapback]459234[/snapback]
I could be wrong but is this the game which is sometimes quoted as Morton's record attendance ?

Although the 1922 game is the official record attendance, I've seen the same figure quoted for a game against Rangers...with the overcrowding this could be the one.

How on earth did they get 21,000 inside for the game against Motherwell in 1963 ?

It was a dawdle-let me assure you-AND it was pure magic!
mortonjag 2008-06-12 23:14:31
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 12 2008, 10:47 PM) [snapback]459240[/snapback]
Yes.

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Everybody will be rushing to shake my hand-'Shoogly-they will exclaim to a man-you are surely the be all and end all of our existence'-and I shall smile benignly.
mortonjag 2008-06-12 23:18:46
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 12 2008, 10:37 PM) [snapback]459230[/snapback]
Stewart

Greacen - McManus - Harding

Jenkins - Masterton - Paartalu - McGuffie - McAlister

Wake - Russell

I feel like I'm missing someone?

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You have omitted super Kev-the reason for our survival, and Morton's answer to George Bush.
mortonjag 2008-06-12 23:27:46
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 12 2008, 11:22 PM) [snapback]459263[/snapback]
Maybe the Mother has a religious vendetta behind this in the first place. Who knows, but an 8 yr old wouldnt have a clue what the score is.

I would have more of the gripe against Celtic fans on there hudleboard.com who were having a right laugh at the 3 Para lads who were killed in Afghanistan last weekend, that to me is a disgrace.


Gibby-you are a mature adult-they are not-sleep well my friend and the Monkey and I bid you and all others goodnight.

So its goodnight from him, and it's goodnight from me!


Goodnight!
mortonjag 2008-06-13 06:56:38
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 12 2008, 11:47 PM) [snapback]459277[/snapback]
are your hormones playing up dear? i know mine are.

No they are not-you are just an evil c*nt.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 07:15:13
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jun 13 2008, 12:43 AM) [snapback]459297[/snapback]
Won't bother to reply to any of moronjag's comments as they are all on ignore, but did he just dip in with some half arsed comments and smileys without really making a point?

Really makes this messageboard a struggle to get through at times.

The huff button ethic at its purest! rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(piehutt @ Jun 13 2008, 12:55 AM) [snapback]459300[/snapback]
I accept that news will be London centric - and if I was watching Sky news or ITN I probably couldn't do much other than switch it off, but the BBC is a public service and should make a better effort.

A Scottish 6 would be very interesting, especially to see how it developed away from the London news. Certainly to see how UK wide stories were reported - as generally the Scottish news won't touch a UK story unless it directly affects Scotland.

As for Radio news - I think as the budget to have a regional radio station is much more affordable, the beeb has, to an extent tried to shelf this issue by having regional stations across the country. I think Radio Scotland, and Radio 4 to be fair, simply tries to be aggresive when interviewing people rather than doing anything too constructive.

Broadcast journalists seem to think that the only way to do an interview is to be purposefully abbrasive. No easier example than when they interview two people at the same time who have seperate views. No sooner is the interviewer finished digging someone up about an issue, and they take the opposite point when questioning the other person. Cringe worthy in the extreme.


Those will just be four wee accidental 'typos' professor! blink.gif

A man of my peerless intelligence and extensive knowledge will always find the prattling of jumped up and uneducated nothings to be somewhat embarrassing, even when they are merely posted on a pubic massage board..

Cringeworthy is the somewhat abrasive neologism which springs to mind laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-13 07:18:25
QUOTE(Magic Mathie @ Jun 13 2008, 01:25 AM) [snapback]459304[/snapback]
After singing the sash one last time he publicly announced his conversion to Islam renouncing any T-shirt he may or may not have worn in the past.

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I like them Poles too but Boruc is a fudd! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-13 07:31:08
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 12 2008, 11:45 PM) [snapback]459275[/snapback]
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QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2008, 01:23 AM) [snapback]459303[/snapback]
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Gidday mortonjag,

Is it still wrinkly when it is ready for action ?

Has it just reduced in volume over the years leaving excess skin ?

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Hi Newt-it's always been very wrinkly but it definitely seems to have shrunk, making it look a bit like a prune skinned chippolata (albeit non-black). When I urinate there doesn't see to be any change in the appearance, and I always carefully dab it dry with soft toilet paper or my linen handkerchief.


QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2008, 01:34 AM) [snapback]459305[/snapback]
Mortonjag, be very careful mate.

In Texas there is a right wing move to have mandatory penile botox injections for sex offenders.

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Those would be deep injections. Botox is normally superficially administered in multiple little pricks I'm told, but nobody seems to know that much about the bloody stuff.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 07:33:47
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 12 2008, 11:59 PM) [snapback]459286[/snapback]
it might feel like it, but

Good-he's finally snuffed!
mortonjag 2008-06-13 07:40:01
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 12 2008, 11:31 PM) [snapback]459270[/snapback]
Best check the government haven't cancelled it first.

Biggest turnover in Christmas trees in the South Side is by 'Stalks and Stems' on Kilmarnock Road-it's a superb florist/fruiterer and the owners are Muslims! wink.gif




QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2008, 03:11 AM) [snapback]459311[/snapback]
perhaps they like to watch ?

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Nope Newt I can assure you our club has strict rules.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 07:46:14
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2008, 06:46 AM) [snapback]459325[/snapback]
Published Date: 13 June 2008

By JOHN ROSS

YELLOW Peril, Blue Meanie, just two of the printable descriptions given to traffic wardens, who are among the most hated of public servants.

To most motorists, they are masochists who take delight in issuing that ticket or enforcing that obscure parking by-law. Not many are on Christmas card lists or top popularity polls.

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Does the Scotsman no longer employ journalists with a modicum of literacy
?

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Ssshh-Piehole's looking for a job.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 07:55:05
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2008, 06:59 AM) [snapback]459328[/snapback]
You can go to war for your country, legally have sex, get married or be held responsible for a crime.

Now the Scottish Government has called for the voting age to be lowered to 16 and demanded the powers from Westminster to implement the change in Scotland.

It had previously been suggested that by giving Scotland's 131,000 16- and 17-year-olds the franchise, the SNP would pick up more votes than the other parties, which could swing results in key council and Holyrood seats.

http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/scotland/S...ower.4182503.jp

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Gidday Col,

Would you be happy for 16 year olds to decide Scotland's future ?

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Talk about asking a rhetorical question-if Bannock Baws had his own way he'd have them voting as soon as they could recognise the letter 'X'.

There is no end to Bawheid's pragmatism. I WILL ABSOLUTELY GUARANTEE that he secretly believes little children (for sixteen year olds are just nippers) do not have the maturity or knowledge to make reasoned decisions about whom to entrust with their future.

I don't believe they are old enough to make reasoned decisions about fighting and shagging either.


If you don't believe me, ask any nineteen year old! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-13 08:00:47
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2008, 07:24 AM) [snapback]459334[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

I have just had a BFO.

Would a pubic massage each morning help to solve your "problem" with wrinkes ?

There is only one way to find out.

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I've been rubbing in anti ageing cream for years Newt-I don't believe it's much good, though my partner once did it for me and the wrinkles just vanished-only for seven minutes though-bloody let down that was.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 08:06:49
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2008, 07:35 AM) [snapback]459340[/snapback]
I always carefully dab it dry with soft toilet paper or my linen handkerchief.
Gidday, mate, were you taught that at Paisley Grammar ?

I hope you wash your hands as well.


Indeed no Newt-it's only been in the last few years that I can't shake off that last bloody drip-just another sign of getting older I guess. I do wash my hands but never in Pubic toilets as they are hoaching with thae germans and my urine-like all healthy folks' is sterile anyway! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-13 08:09:02 Flight Lieutenant Sturgeon!!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-13 08:11:44
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2008, 08:07 AM) [snapback]459350[/snapback]
May I suggest ...

Marshmallow daytime facial moisturizer.

It is so light and silky it instantly penetrates into your skin, leaving a smooth and moisturized surface that's perfect for a healthy daytime glow.

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I'm allergic to sweeties, and anything remotely connected to them.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 08:13:27
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2008, 08:10 AM) [snapback]459352[/snapback]
I thought she was a group captain ??



Spurtle will know.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 08:15:00
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2008, 08:00 AM) [snapback]459346[/snapback]
Nope Newt I can assure you our club has strict rules.

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are all of your members bound by them ?

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Bondage is only every second Thursday.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 08:25:20
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2008, 07:58 AM) [snapback]459345[/snapback]
I don't believe they are old enough to make reasoned decisions about fighting and shagging either.
Except when they are sleeping over with single mums ?

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Does Scotland have an equivalent to Pennsylvania ?

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Shooting (guns or tadpoles) is (like voting) a physical possibility long before it can be done responsibly.

If I had my way, I'd amputate all penises at puberty-deep freeze them-and graft them back on at thirty provided there were no criminal convictions etc.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 08:28:12
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2008, 08:21 AM) [snapback]459357[/snapback]
Ingredients: Rose water, sunflower oil, stearic acid (vegetable fat), mango butter, vegetable glycerin, beeswax, natural flavor, grapeseed oil, rosehip seed oil, tocopheryl acetate (vitamin E), marshmallow extract, willowbark extract, calendula flower extract, rosemary leaf extract, fragrance, sucrose stearate (sugar emulsifier), tocopherol, beta carotene, xanthan gum (natural thickener), sodium borate (natural borax), glucose & glucose oxidase & lactoperoxidase (sugar and natural enzymes).



I f*ckin' knew it-she's Shoogly's cousin.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 08:31:47
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 13 2008, 08:24 AM) [snapback]459359[/snapback]
Another one of those times when hypocritical people leave aside their staunch beliefs to earn a few quid.

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I do a nice wee side line in 'prayer mats' at the car boot sale-they are just discarded carpet samples which I pick up for buttons-the secret is getting 'halal' stamped on the back, and Bob's yer Uncle.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 08:33:56
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2008, 08:29 AM) [snapback]459364[/snapback]

I'd amputate all penises at puberty-deep freeze them

would that not cause them to wrinkle ? ?

Possibly-I've not been allowed to try it yet.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 08:36:21
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Jun 13 2008, 08:22 AM) [snapback]459358[/snapback]
If it wasn't for a combination of Gruby Artur and dreadful refereeing, it would have been Goodnight Vienna within half an hour. The Poles are going mental today about Webb's performance, casually forgetting that "Roger" was a yard off side when the ball was played to him to score. Poland have been mince.

But the strangest thing of all was watching the Germany/Croatia game on TV here. When Olic made it 2-0 the commentator was almost creaming himself, despite the fact that a Croatia win was the worst possible outcome for the Poles. Amazing the way that irrational historical hatred can blind you from the obvious.

Bawheid crops up everywhere.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 08:43:41
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 13 2008, 12:40 AM) [snapback]459296[/snapback]
there's an echo in here biggrin.gif
in your dreams - you can be interested but you have no right to know - surely even anyone as dim as you would have got that?

i'm sorry, i just wet the carpet
we're all dying sad.gif

:yawn: (do you have one? etc. )
i disagree, whatever the size of your proboscis, and yours is prodigious

look, are you saying that GMFC is about to fold? shit or get off the pot

we should be told.
you may ask lots of questions darling, but you have no right to receive answers

have you written to alistair yet? if not, get out your crayons and scrawl out your questions. pop them in an envelope and address it to alistair, c/o GMFC Ltd. make sure to mark it private and confidential - that way, you can be sure that dougie reads it first biggrin.gif

have you bought those shares? have you got the next shareholders' meeting in your diary?

have you joined the trust? are you ready to take over from Jim on the board?

i'm holding my breath

Power to your diaphragm.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 09:03:36 It's always great to start the season at home. After last year when we flattered to deceive for a couple of months, I'd actually prefer to see us under the cosh at Cappielow-St Johnstone or Dundee would do nicely. No point in kidding ourselves on against Airdrie! tongue.gif

We'd have an excellent crowd, enthusiasm will be high, and IF Davie Irons has been given enough scope (which I doubt) we could kick off with a real bang!
mortonjag 2008-06-13 09:14:16
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 13 2008, 08:50 AM) [snapback]459373[/snapback]
Gidday NewTon,
I would give the 16 year old's the vote.
You can do most things at 16 like starring in a soft porn movie, but not being able to go to the cinema to watch it tongue.gif

That is a popular misconception. 16 year olds are still children with immature minds-perfect targets for Bawheid's pandering pragmatism.

QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2008, 08:55 AM) [snapback]459376[/snapback]
starring in a soft porn movie may not have the same consequences as voting for or against independence.
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First minister's question time-Spurtle comes in his kilt every week when Tumshie Top humiliates those brain damaged 'lefties'! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-13 09:21:02
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2008, 09:03 AM) [snapback]459379[/snapback]
whit ?

are you looking to meet mortonjag ?

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Actually he was just being another pro censorship wallah-the Newton Jag conversations go right over the top for 97.33% of posters on this highly intellectual pubic massage board-they fail to appreciate the depth of the coded messages, the warm love that flows in every phrase, and the fact that we ARE consenting adults in private.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 09:23:21
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Jun 13 2008, 09:19 AM) [snapback]459386[/snapback]
Season book for me, not much of a saving i agree but it's just much easier to walk up to the gate and hand over a ticket instead of having to make sure you have money all the time.

Also the season book shall be getting paid by direct debit, 10 monthly payments that you never notice and that's when Morton decide to take money from your account which they fail to do on a number of times.

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mortonjag 2008-06-13 09:25:47
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 13 2008, 08:52 AM) [snapback]459374[/snapback]
Don't they hate us when we hijack threads and talk s***e! mad.gif


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QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2008, 09:06 AM) [snapback]459382[/snapback]
You are 100% correct, Col.

I should have posted my BFO on mortonjag's personal thread ... A Challenge And Test Of Knowledge, For those who think they know more than Mortonjag

Please accept my sincere apologies.

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QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 13 2008, 09:08 AM) [snapback]459383[/snapback]
A simple mistake that needs no apology wink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-06-13 09:28:50
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2008, 09:19 AM) [snapback]459387[/snapback]
16 year olds are still children with immature minds-perfect targets for Bawheid's pandering pragmatism.

fair enough, mortonjag ... however, at the other end of the spectrum, how do we take the vote or a driving licence from an ageing person, who is in "decline" with Alzheimer's Disease, etc.

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I once knew the answer newt sad.gif

QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 13 2008, 09:21 AM) [snapback]459391[/snapback]
I believe that only property owning males over 30 should be allowed to vote.

Property owning white males?
mortonjag 2008-06-13 09:32:47
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 13 2008, 09:27 AM) [snapback]459398[/snapback]
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QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2008, 09:29 AM) [snapback]459400[/snapback]

Don't they hate us when we hijack threads and talk s***e!

Is it talking s***e to be concerned about a fellow board member's "problem" with his member ?

Would you prefer us to turn the other cheek or a blind eye ?



I clearly stated I was serious and he told me to get circumcised-he tried to trivialise my disability-now I know how CHC feels when folk mention high heels-and it's just not British. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-13 09:35:22
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jun 13 2008, 09:33 AM) [snapback]459403[/snapback]
I think given the number of young people who can't be bothered to vote, I don't see that this would create much of a difference.

However - I do agree that, if anything, the SNP would probably benefit more than other parties if 16 year olds were allowed to vote.


1/10 for that argumentative essay! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-13 09:38:17
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2008, 09:23 AM) [snapback]459393[/snapback]
A Singaporean man with a fetish for smelling womens' armpits has been sentenced to 14 years in jail and 18 strokes of the cane, legal officials said.

A court employee confirmed the sentence, issued yesterday, against Mohammed Ismail Ariffin, 36.

Ariffin had a fixation for touching or smelling women, particularly their armpits, and was convicted of molesting 23 women, his lawyer Noor Mohamed Marican said.

"He's got this problem. Poor chap," Noor said in a brief interview.

After reading an expert report that said Ariffin was likely to re-offend, Judge James Leong issued a preventive detention order, which means Ariffin will not be eligible for parole, The Straits Times said.

Ariffin, who is mildly retarded, would often attack his victims inside lifts, the report said.

It said Noor argued against a long sentence and in favour of rehabilitation and medical treatment.

But Leong said he found "precious little" in Ariffin's favour, The Straits Times reported.



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mortonjag 2008-06-13 09:41:37
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2008, 09:36 AM) [snapback]459405[/snapback]
I think given the number of young people who can't be bothered to vote, I don't see that this would create much of an issue.
Any Scot who does not vote at the independence referendum does not deserve the right to vote.



Do you wish independence from the babbling clown who is currently ruining our best ever chance of full autonomy.

Yes

No
mortonjag 2008-06-13 09:46:49
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2008, 09:41 AM) [snapback]459408[/snapback]
he tried to trivialise my disability

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mortonjag, perhaps you could consider your condition to be an attribute rather than a disability.

If you need some positive reinforcement, may I suggest you post on http://glasgow.gumtree.com/

I expect quite a few lassies would offer to assess your attribute.

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I could but I'm not going to-it blights my social live, my sex life isn't worth a f*ck, and my selfish team is not existent.

Newt-I AM being serious-I can't even remember what thread we're on-if it's Claymore C*ck's I apologise in advance, but I really need help. Nobody knows anything about bloody BOTOX it would appear, and that was pretty well my last hope.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 09:50:20
QUOTE(El Duderino @ Jun 13 2008, 09:45 AM) [snapback]459409[/snapback]
Eh?

Most 13yr old boys would rather not unwittingly read about some old wallopers wrinkly tadger

I apologise-I had no idea you are so young.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 10:01:59
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jun 13 2008, 09:54 AM) [snapback]459412[/snapback]
"No matter how much you shake your peg,
That last wee drop runs doon your leg......."

If you REALLY want info, try Brian Cullen at Cullen & Bruce in Busby Road, Clarkston. Implant dentistry, laser tooth-whitening, re-alignment, Restalyn and Botox - a one-stop PhotoShop for face and boady.

Don't expect miracles tho - once a wrinkly old dick that spouts pish, ALWAYS a wrinkly old dick that spouts pish....... tongue.gif

There's no need to state the obvious, but thanks for at least treating this seriously. I do confess, though, to being slightly apprehensive about letting a DENTIST stick needles in my penis-I was really hoping that there might be some clinics somewhere in Central Scotland where I could entrust it to a fellow physician. You might imagine I should be the very one to know-but BOTOX therapy just doesn't seem to exist in 'the sticks' that is Scotland.

I also have this grudging feeling that yet again those bloody tooth mechanics are encroaching on OUR patch! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-13 10:06:37 It's an absolutely excellent idea and it makes sound business sense to 'stay ahead of the pack'.

Unfortunately Hal Stewart had more of that in his pinky toe than inhabits the present incumbent's cranium. sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-13 10:14:29
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Jun 13 2008, 10:07 AM) [snapback]459418[/snapback]
Hahaha, a great system Morton have....



I actually agree with you in principle-if they don't take the money you can't be held responsible!


It does really make me laugh though-there's a never ending string of posters who boast about how they fiddle their way into matches, yet when I dare to ask legitimate questions, they are often the very ones who accuse me of 'not being a true fan'. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-13 10:33:04
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 13 2008, 10:10 AM) [snapback]459420[/snapback]
16 yr olds' these days find it hard to speak properly so their vote would be worthless. I wouldn't want their vote. unsure.gif unsure.gif blink.gif

It has to be an informed choice, if not, it's not worth it. Let's get in cleanly.



Unfortunately it doesn't, but I totally agree we should not make it even worse.


QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2008, 10:14 AM) [snapback]459425[/snapback]
their vote would be worthless.

worthless ?

it could be priceless !!!

if it changes the course of history.

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A vote for independence could definitely change our history Newt-a vote for the current first Minister's lot is NOT a vote for independence-it's a vote for the perpetuation of power without responsibility-for babies trying to do the jobs of adults. Sure I'll vote 'yes' if there's an unbiased 'yes or no' for independence, but in no way can I endorse the shabby, devious, and 'people pleasing' performance of Bawheid and his wee wummin.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 10:54:28
QUOTE(El Duderino @ Jun 13 2008, 10:40 AM) [snapback]459444[/snapback]
Eh???

I've said my piece and I'll leave it at that.

'Fraid it doesn't work like that!

You said:

Eh?

Most 13yr old boys would rather not unwittingly read about some old wallopers wrinkly tadger



....and you said it despite the fact that I made it plain from the outset that this was a serious topic-OK a few wee innuendos have crept in-that's life-but you have indulged in gratuitous and offensive ageism.

I am a respectable and decent living retired professional gentleman who seeks an answer to a worrying problem, and all you can do is pontificate about what's right and wrong in your myopic and puritanical microcosm.

But wait-you're a parent-good gracious Sir-and I am a bloody Grandparent four times over. The only thing that parenthood tells me is that you once got your end away.

Would you be willing to embrace the concept of 'live and let live' or is that a bridge too far?

mortonjag 2008-06-13 12:44:29
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2008, 11:01 AM) [snapback]459468[/snapback]

but you have indulged in gratuitous and offensive ageism.

IMHO, mortonjag is NOT an old man.

Some examples of old men ...

DDFR

Arthur Montford

The Duke of Edinburgh

Jimmy Carter

They are all old enough to be mortonjag's father.
t



Biologically that is true!

It is strange though Newt-the average age of our pubic massage board poster is-I'd guess 25-I'm therefore old enough to be the Board's resident Grandpa, and all I get is a regular torrent of abusive ageism

If, however, in frustration, I dare to allude to the age of another poster with a friendly 'Son', I'm immediately accused of being a patronising old git/fud/fool/ or whatever.

Funny old world!

....and I STILL haven't had an answer to my question-well I've discovered there's a tooth mechanic at it, but I'd prefer a proper BOTOX clinic. Would you let a dentist stick needles in your willie Newt?




If however
mortonjag 2008-06-13 12:54:37
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Jun 13 2008, 10:41 AM) [snapback]459446[/snapback]
Just imagine that 131000 group of 16 year olds voting for full independence! We'd be bankrupt in no time. The logic of being a sole State is all so very romantic when you look back over history when states or provinces became one.

In this global economy we just could not stand on our own feet when super powers around the world dictate our own economy. Oil and gas that we bring into the UK is being estimated to rise to $250 per barrel in the years ahead. Without handouts from London there's no way we could sustain that with being so far away from the markets we supply.

We need to remain North British and have the rest of the UK behind us. It's good having our own National identity as it is now, we dont need to break that Union though.

That's an opinion

QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 13 2008, 10:47 AM) [snapback]459449[/snapback]
Poppyc***! HEY! that's not a swear word ohmy.gif

That's another opinion

QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 13 2008, 10:51 AM) [snapback]459457[/snapback]
Thats the biggest load of pish Ive read on here in a long time. laugh.gif

That's a third opinion

QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 13 2008, 12:12 PM) [snapback]459487[/snapback]
Not at all, I am not racist.

We all know that young people and women are too stupid to vote so why do we let them? Brains the size of a squirrels don't you know?

That's a fact.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 13:02:06
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 13 2008, 12:13 PM) [snapback]459488[/snapback]
Surprised there are not more suicides from on here given the obvious mental illness of a large number of the posters.

Are you qualified to assess the mental state of your fellow pubic massage board posters Mr McArthur?
mortonjag 2008-06-13 13:09:08
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 13 2008, 12:43 PM) [snapback]459501[/snapback]
I will be honest, and say that God doesnt exist. Religion was only brought into this world to keep some folk happy that there is a higher being to look up to.

Its all nonsense i tell ye.

...and on that great day of judgement God said unto Gibby-'Gibby thou hast sinned and come short of my Glory-thou hast blasphemed, and thou hast taken the name of the Lord thy God in vain.....................and Gibby did plead on bended knee, 'but almighty God, I didnae ken'.............

and God did smile, as he pulled the trapdoor lever, exclaiming 'Well ye ken noo'! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-13 13:13:18
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 13 2008, 01:12 PM) [snapback]459520[/snapback]
Yes I am.

Are you a psychiatrist?
mortonjag 2008-06-13 13:15:08
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2008, 12:58 PM) [snapback]459512[/snapback]
would that be young squirrels or adult squirrels ?

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Yes
mortonjag 2008-06-13 13:21:45
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2008, 12:55 PM) [snapback]459511[/snapback]
Would you let a dentist stick needles in your willie Newt?
mortonjag, I am never even comfortable when I receive general anaesthesia from a top notch anaesthetist.
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I do understand-I never feel totally comfortable in the dentist's chair-it's akin to rape-not that I've ever been raped- but I'm sure you know where I'm coming from-it must feel worse for a woman-all those bloody tools getting stuck in your orifice without as much as a 'by your leave' and now I hear one of those tooth mechanics is administering BOTOX. Well he's NOT getting anywhere near my willie. Please-does ANYBODY know of any ethical BOTOX clinics in Scotland?
mortonjag 2008-06-13 13:26:27
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 13 2008, 12:51 PM) [snapback]459507[/snapback]
Speak to your GP wink.gif

And get back on topic or move to another thread !

I have spoken to my GP-he doesn't seem to have a problem with the news on the telly-oh and he knows f*ck all about cosmetic BOTOX treatment.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 13:37:21
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 13 2008, 12:47 PM) [snapback]459505[/snapback]
Education is devolved. So there cannot be a UK wide ban.
Are people confusing England and britain again ? rolleyes.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-13 13:43:19
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 13 2008, 01:31 PM) [snapback]459533[/snapback]
All of that doesn't mean a thing to me, is this the way folk talk in Churches and Chapel's unsure.gif

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I haven't a clue, but it bears a passing resemblance to King James Holy Bible speak.

I doubt if there's a 'God' as in that sacred comic, but I do believe in a Higher Power-and I'm NOT talking about Shoogly either.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 13:47:08
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 13 2008, 11:10 AM) [snapback]459470[/snapback]
Was the Danish league not amateur ?

A lot has changed since the 1960s.

Local lads seem the way to go.

Especially, when we let so many local lads sign with clubs outside Inverclyde.

You sound as though you speak from experience newt! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-13 13:49:00
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 13 2008, 12:54 PM) [snapback]459508[/snapback]
Err...Stevenson has been told to find another club blink.gif

Is he out of contract? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-13 13:54:31
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 13 2008, 01:05 PM) [snapback]459516[/snapback]
As i said on another thread before it was DELETED. I wont be renewing mine or the boys one. Want want want. I shall pay as i turn up.

I believe I said the same with my detailed reasons.

Why was the thread deleted.

Are you sure it wasn't just moved to 'a more appropriate forum' like my Alistair Donald one? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-13 13:57:30
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 13 2008, 01:20 PM) [snapback]459527[/snapback]
http://www.clydefc.co.uk/news/2008/06/12/2757/ you can listen online....its clyde based show but could be useful

Last I heard he was supposed to be abroad--and where's Shoogly this weather, or do I have to ask that question on the Trust forum?
mortonjag 2008-06-13 14:07:48
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jun 13 2008, 01:52 PM) [snapback]459543[/snapback]
It's a hangover from the old days of the Brirish Empire when everyone was supposed to obey unquestioningly, and everyone was assumed to be religious and Christian. It's so outdated now and I am surprised they haven't dropped it.

Edited to add: I see from that article that the Scouts have altered their rules now. I hope they will allow the "state" to be Scotland and not the UK...

I think it's fair to say that the huge majority was 'religious' and Christian.

It's funny how we have folk getting their tartan knickers in a twist about PRESERVING our Scottish traditions, while others seem quite happy to divorce themselves from the concept of Great Britain as a Christian country.

I'm not passing judgement on either-merely commenting.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 15:16:59
QUOTE(El Duderino @ Jun 13 2008, 02:38 PM) [snapback]459561[/snapback]
My point is merely that I find it unnerving your willingness to engage in graphic descriptions of your boaby and your post-micturition dribbling.

Apologies if your not as "old" as has been made out in the thousands of posts I've seen on this message board. I described you as an old walloper, but the accent was intended on the walloper. Please ammend to read young/old/ancient/immature etc as you wish.

To me it's astonishing that a retired professional person would think that approaching a "general nonsense" forum on a football messageboard would be a way of finding reliable information on a narrow field such as cosmetic surgery.


Hence my initial impression that this thread is an unsavoury, attention seeking spout.

My own GP has in the past readily pointed me in the direction of appropriate NHS websites due to the amount of myth and fallacy spouted accross the internet.

Perhaps you should approach a health care professional? Private consultant etc etc.

I'm more than happy to "live and let live", but can you please stop talking about your knob on the forum?

I just don't find it appropriate.

Oh dear-you don't really get it-do you?

'Quite happy to live and let live' means what it says, and it's certainly NOT for you to decide either whether or not my behaviour is appropriate or what should and should not be posted.

Your apparent myopia extends further than I first suspected. Have you an earthly clue how many folk of varying professions post here-this pubic massage board is a fund of knowledge about a huge variety of topics, something you clearly choose to ignore-we have doctors, dentists, teachers, scientists, lawyers, accountants, and successful businessmen, to say nothing of representatives of all the trades and the armed forces. I frequently share p.m.s with well over a dozen of those posters.
I HAVE tried to get information through the NHS-please don't patronise me for goodness sake-and they haven't a clue about cosmetic treatment with BOTOX-that is why I asked the question in the first place.

Finally, would you like to tell me WHY it is that you find my discussion of my problem offensive. Has it occurred to you that nobody else seems to care a jot? Do you object to the fact that older men's willies become wrinkly. Do you deny me the right to attempt to improve my quality of life? It's not really about being a parent at all-is it? No.. it's about being a wannabe cyber polisman. rolleyes.gif

Maybe you are the one who needs to take a long hard look at himself.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 15:23:47
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jun 13 2008, 02:42 PM) [snapback]459563[/snapback]
I think the official line is he has been told he can 'look at other options'. Whether that means he'll be shipped out on loan, or he'll be given pre-season, who knows, but I can see at least 1 of the 3 players that were told this to still be at the club next season.

That was my point- a contracted player can't be 'told to find another club'-that's constructive dismissal.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 15:32:26
QUOTE(Ton Bar @ Jun 13 2008, 02:26 PM) [snapback]459559[/snapback]
Thats good, lets all complain about "old shoogly" being skint and not digging into his pockets to get new players, but rather than put money into the club you supposedly "support", you'd much rather not bother helping the club as long as it lines your own pocket.

Fantastic... mad.gif
Dickhead

It's not like me to come out in support of 'I hate manpower' but your post is ridiculous.

He signed the DD mandate, and the club with its legendary bungling inefficiency has messed up through no fault of his. Hell bloody mend them.

The running of GMFC is an embarrassment to any fan with a modicum of business sense, and I'd suggest that anybody who attempts to defend their Mickey Mouse mimicry of a real business does not even merit the title of 'Dickhead'.

QUOTE(se65an @ Jun 13 2008, 02:44 PM) [snapback]459565[/snapback]
Why hide behind an alias to call someone a dickhead.

Sir, you have no balls rolleyes.gif

Perhaps Sir is a wummin Sean! laugh.gif

QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 13 2008, 02:47 PM) [snapback]459566[/snapback]
laugh.gif

Naa, the poll was f***ed up by mistake wink.gif

Aye, but the thread became interesting!
mortonjag 2008-06-13 15:38:59
QUOTE(ayrstorm @ Jun 13 2008, 03:24 PM) [snapback]459577[/snapback]
sorry but if the mother and child's objection is to the queen and the royal family then they should leave the cubs now. changing a word on a promise will not solve their problem.

The Patron of the Scout Association is The Queen

also

That's interesting. It seems to me that there was really no intention to join the Cubs in the first place-the child was used as a pawn to further a parental agenda, and I believe that is immoral.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 15:41:13
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jun 13 2008, 03:10 PM) [snapback]459571[/snapback]
Aye, no money to pay the staff this month so I'm looking for cheap flights to the Cayman Islands so I can do a Reggie Perrin...

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

How's Miles Brookson those days? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-13 15:44:53
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 13 2008, 03:40 PM) [snapback]459584[/snapback]
So its a wummin wi ball's then

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If your auntie Nelly had baws would she be Donkey Dave?
mortonjag 2008-06-13 16:02:56
QUOTE(Mick @ Jun 13 2008, 02:23 PM) [snapback]459557[/snapback]
Why do you want to hear 'Shoogly' on the radio?

I merely enquired about his whereabouts-no more-no less! He IS after all the Chairman of the Club, and this IS after all a Morton forum.

QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 13 2008, 02:43 PM) [snapback]459564[/snapback]
I don’t suppose he does, he just has to piss on every thread with his obsessive and relentless campaign against the Chairman.
Look at the European Players thread- A perfectly good topic being discussed is pissed on by MortonJag with another unnecessary and unrelated attack on “Shoogly”.
Sometimes I think the guy must have a metal age of 12. dry.gif

Would you care to re-vamp your assessment of the Alistair Donald thread-you are another wannabe cyber polisman. You won't answer this question, but do you think the club has progressed satisfactorily over the last three seasons?

QUOTE(Alibi @ Jun 13 2008, 03:19 PM) [snapback]459574[/snapback]
He seems to have an intense dislike of several people, including our chairman, also Alex Salmond and Nicola Sturgeon.

Why do you demean yourself.? You said exactly the same when I warned you about Mileson-you were actually quite unpleasant to me several times in that respect. Now it might reasonably be argued that you have an intense dislike of him! laugh.gif

Others accused me of an intense dislike of Jim McInally. Time proved me to be correct, and the ultimate abuse dished out to JM by the vast majority surpassed any abuse he ever received from me.

I absolutely abhor the way our Club appears to be foundering under the present 'stewardship'-that does not mean that I personally 'intensely dislike' Mr Rae. The tide has turned-two years ago I couldn't even call him 'Shoogly' without being accused of treason. Had we been relegated (and he DID want to retain JM's services) I guess things would be very different in that respect too.

Your sometimes apparently illogical fascination with Bawheid's lot again confounds your apparent intelligence. I have stated several times that I favour autonomy for Scotland. That does not mean that I will slever over every ill conceived action by a shower of pragmatic greenhorns for whom I again have NO personal dislike.

QUOTE(pgmsc @ Jun 13 2008, 03:31 PM) [snapback]459579[/snapback]
That comes about when to quote the man you are perfect I had him on ignore problem is mosted people quote him and he appears on every thread.

My signature says everything.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 16:08:03
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jun 13 2008, 03:44 PM) [snapback]459587[/snapback]
As we all know Mr Jag, football employment works very differently from any other walk of life. It is not uncommon for a contracted player to be asked to find another club who will take on his contract, or instruct his agent to do the same. All 3 players will be at the club next season if they cannot find another club.

A contracted payer cannot be 'told to find another club'. That is constructive dismissal.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 16:11:03
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jun 13 2008, 04:00 PM) [snapback]459593[/snapback]
Surely we should be signing up as many young Aussies as we can rolleyes.gif

It would be good if we had an 'in' on young Australian talent.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 16:17:25
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Jun 13 2008, 04:14 PM) [snapback]459599[/snapback]
1st of all...Im sorry but your really missing the point im getting across, i got off my arse, drove away up to cappielow and filled in a form with my personal bank details to get a season book and after a few months notice that they have not been taking payments off my bank account as i signed for so im making a point that GMFC is a total shambles with this sort of stuff and no wonder Dougie makes comments about getting more money in when this happens, i know i am not the only person this has happened to.
2nd of all... I like every other man/woman have monthly bills to pay and have everything penned down to keep me right, should i have called GMFC and explained that they have not taken money from my account only for them to take a lump sum back from me, i don't think so! It's not my fault this has happened.
And the last thing.... I gave them my personal bank details and they can't do a simple thing like set up a direct debit right, i dare to think where that paper was lying about in Cappielow! No doubt used for Dougie to wipe is arse as he pleases.
If that makes me out to be a dickhead i really could not give two f***s mate.

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mortonjag 2008-06-13 16:27:09
QUOTE(Mick @ Jun 13 2008, 04:17 PM) [snapback]459600[/snapback]
Fair enough....just on the wrong thread.
If it means a lot to you, and it evidently does, rather than clogging up perfectly good threads, why not start a new one.

Incidentally, congrats in advance of reaching the 20,000-post milestone. Another few threads worth of smileys and you'll have cracked it.

tongue.gif

It's funny how the vultures circle Mick-aye it maybe was on the wrong thread but I don't see any other poster being pilloried for what is an everyday occurrence.

For what it's worth, somebody had stated this very day that DI is in Switzerland or somewhere else in Europe, and suddenly he pops up tonight on a radio talk in. It occurred to me that we'd heard nothing from, or about the Chairman for ages-believe it or not I asked the question in complete innocence.

I mean this sincerely-rather than folk constantly accusing Mortonjag of false agendas they would do well to look at those of his detractors. One good example of the sort of person who regularly makes a complete clown of himself is my old friend Real Hoops, but he's only one of the remaining half dozen or so who still believe Mr Rae is the best thing since sliced bread. Such folk are clearly beyond help.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 16:30:57
QUOTE(centralTON @ Jun 13 2008, 04:19 PM) [snapback]459603[/snapback]
Not like you to stir it up MJ. wink.gif

Wood eye? tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-13 16:34:02
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 13 2008, 04:11 PM) [snapback]459598[/snapback]
laugh.gif aye he can...

.....and if he is, he can pack his bags and sue the club for constructive dismissal. Contrary to what another poster has suggested, football clubs are not immune to employment law.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 16:57:53
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jun 13 2008, 04:24 PM) [snapback]459605[/snapback]
Surely you mean "phallicy"
Phnar! Phnar!

Phallusy Dave-why do you always get it wrong-anyway thanks for your comment about your son's treatment, but if I stop short at a bloody tooth mechanic administering subcutaneous botulinum toxin, I'm damned sure I won't be going anywhere near a vet for my BOTOX treatment.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 17:16:25
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 13 2008, 04:40 PM) [snapback]459610[/snapback]
So, because I refuse to call him "Shoogly" then I must then believe Mr Rae is the best thing since sliced bread.

I see also that you are back to name calling again. Dear oh dear I would have thought that you might have grown out of that sort of thing by now...Oh well rolleyes.gif

Oh and I wouldn’t go imagining that because you now get fewer people retaliating to your poisonous posts that it's down to some kind of swell of support for your twisted and obsessive anti-Rae crusade. I think you'll find that it’s down to the fact that there are just more of us with you "on ignore".

Bye for now. dry.gif

You could have ignored me again darling but as always with the little huff buttoners you have a selective memory, a dual morality, and limited intellect

You're not totally daft though-that's your problem-you're only bright enough to be a danger to yourself, and your last paragraph says it all-you haven't a clue.

Do you REALLY imagine that the board is populated by dozens of cowards like yourself who hide behind their little huff buttons. It's just not like that my angel-I now have a whole portfolio of evidence to back up my 'poisonous posts' -evidence which in fact demonstrates exactly what is currently noxious to the Club I love. I regularly share p.m.s with many respectable and respected posters who accept wholeheartedly that there is nothing 'twisted and obsessive' about my disgust with the current regime.

You might as well admit that your sporadic anti Jag outbursts coincide with your pre-menstrual phase-at least I'm willing to give you the benefit of that doubt. Needless to say you'll be back on shortly protesting that you're a MAN! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-13 17:33:09
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 13 2008, 05:04 PM) [snapback]459614[/snapback]
I think you are being quite vain about this MJ. I can understand it you have a big nose or sticky out ears. But to be so vain about a wrinkly knob is taking vanity to a new extreme.

That's where you are so wrong Spurtle-I'm an extremely humble person, and the epitome of self effacement.

I have enough self awareness and professional knowledge to realise that my preoccupation with my wrinky wilie is illogical-that doesn't alter the fact that the problem exists and I will not feel completely whole until I get it sorted.

It has nothing to do with sex-my partner's half my age and has no complaints whatsoever about my performance- (though I suspect some parent will complain about that revelation)-indeed she is regularly complimentary and hasn't a clue why I go on and on about it.

So there it is-we all have our respective Achilles Heels, and for me it's my very wrinkly willie. I believe it can be fixed with BOTOX injections, and started a very serious thread beseeching help from my fellow posters-help which has hardly been forthcoming. Am I being neglected by those in the know-that possibility makes me feel even worse.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 17:38:18
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 13 2008, 05:25 PM) [snapback]459617[/snapback]
No.

I do apologise-which adjective is apposite Mr McArthur?
mortonjag 2008-06-13 17:41:28
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 13 2008, 05:26 PM) [snapback]459618[/snapback]
Yes I am.

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Not many folk would admit to being shrinks Mr McArthur-I suspect you may be lying. Please paste your credentials.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 17:46:45
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Jun 13 2008, 10:39 AM) [snapback]459443[/snapback]
Ya f***ing beauty biggrin.gif
Any good places to buy decent cars at a reasonable price (preferably below 5k) in Greenock?

Scottish Autotrader. Well done and take care ....the Monkey doesn't want kermit croaking. wink.gif



mortonjag 2008-06-13 17:49:45
QUOTE(stubaws @ Jun 13 2008, 05:29 PM) [snapback]459622[/snapback]
this thread has become yet another tedious slanging match involving mortonjag and a few others, not one reply to the topic is about the f*cking topic! sad.gif

You are very perceptive Sir-Mortonjag pleads self defence.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 18:01:49
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 13 2008, 05:34 PM) [snapback]459624[/snapback]
What utter self delusional petty minded rude and juvenile nonsense. You are like a spoiled little child with no concept of the real world around them. I actually think you need help.

I feel sorry for you now. sad.gif

Well shall we just put it this way, I don't really believe many of the other posters give a toss about what you think. As always, I have told the truth and it's offensive that you accuse me of being deluded.

Anybody who can be arsed only has to look at your profile and posts, to quickly spot your sad agenda.

In my very humble opinion you are an arrogant, ignorant, and stubborn fool who flatly refuses to accept that anything has changed since Mr Rae saved the club from extinction.

I want to make it abundantly clear that I am NOT trying to be abusive, and am not resorting to name calling. That is my considered opinion. I also feel very strongly that your brand of recalcitrant myopia does FAR more harm to the club than every post I have ever made.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 18:09:05
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 13 2008, 05:12 PM) [snapback]459615[/snapback]
He can stay as long as his contract is valid for if he wants to. But, he can be told it's in his best interests to find another club because he won't be selected.

It's just football jargon that's been used for years. Don't be so pedantic MJ !


I was not being pedantic. If a player has a contract he can not be 'told to leave' unless the club wants to risk litigation. There is a huge difference between 'being told to leave' and being told you are free to leave if you wish.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 18:19:14
QUOTE(El Duderino @ Jun 13 2008, 05:57 PM) [snapback]459637[/snapback]
I'm not trying to police the internet!

I was letting you know that I find it unsettling the idea of you entering into conversation with unknown people about your tadger. That's all. I asked you if you could please stop talking about it... nothing more.

I'm entitled to be a prude if I like!

I don't expect you to stop - I just wanted to express my concern. I appreciate now that you don't give a monkeys - your choice.

Sorry you felt patronised by my offered advice. I never took you for a sensitive soul.

In my mind if I wanted a cosmetic procedure carried out I'd firstly approach a cosmetic surgeon. Makes sense to me.

So long as you have made it clear that you are the one who is 'out on a limb' I have no problem with your post, but surely pubic massage boards are not the best reading material for prudes.

Regarding the last part of your post, I don't want to rub it it, but I AM medically qualified, and have already stated that I can get no help within the NHS.

Believe it or not doctors still tend to close ranks and feel threatened by 'alternative therapies' and although BOTOX has a couple of clinical indications, it is largely regarded as a form of beauty treatment.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 18:43:20 I believe that he is saying in public what the majority think in private.

In any society there is no place for disrespect and discourtesy. That does not mean that folk should be forced to change their perception of the world by others. Indeed I do not believe they can.

Modern British society is riddled with self perpetuating organisations-if your job is to promote political correctness and you're not seen to be doing it-P45. Thus we have had a growing cancer of PC wallahs who in secret probably don't give any greater a f*ck about PC that the average Thomasina, Dickina, or Henrietta.

I notice the parents of a Down's Syndrome boy with a mental age of 5 who was charged by the Fiscal with a racially aggravated assault on an Asian college mate are suing the Crown Office after it dropped the case. I not only hope they win, but hope it gets huge publicity.

I have discovered that anyone who pays undue attention to PC issues invariably has a hidden (or not so hidden) agenda.

When I was a wee boy my Granny used to recite:

Eeny, meanie manny mo
Catch a *potential ethnic slur removed* by the toe.



Why should I be prevented from passing on a childhood experience?

My granny was a lovely person who treated everybody with the same warmth and open mindedness-the fact that she had never seen a black person in her whole life would have made no difference had one walked through her door, and in all probability she'd have recited her wee poem to him too in complete innocence.

PC sucks!
mortonjag 2008-06-13 18:58:46
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 13 2008, 06:15 PM) [snapback]459643[/snapback]
16 year olds who don't care...wont vote.

Those who take the time to care and know about the parties will vote.

Just because you are 16 does not make you a moron. I doubt in the years between me being 16 and 18 I had matured at all, if by 16 you are not mature when it is required you probably wont ever be.

The thing about timeless sayings Puggs is that they are almost invariably correct, and you just CAN'T put an old head on young shoulders.

Your analysis of who will and won't vote if the age is dropped to 16 is very simplistic-folk vote (or don't vote) for a variety of different reasons. I strongly suspect that the majority of 16 year olds don't care passionately one way or the other about voting-I also strongly suspect that new legislation to lower the age would result in a concerted publicity campaign by Bawheid aimed at programming the new breed into believing not only that they must exercise their right, but must put their wee cross at SNP.

Just because you're six doesn't make you a moron either and there are plenty of dead morons who voted throughout their lifetimes. Does that mean we should lower the voting age to six?

Mr McArthur was to some degree correct-we would do well to raise the voting age to 21 I'd suggest.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 19:02:15
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 13 2008, 06:56 PM) [snapback]459652[/snapback]
Hons Accounting graduate (2.1 with 3 first class passes in his final year) wants a decent job, not looking for major bucks but enough to get by in this world.

Does not want to be an accountant though.
Yours,

Puggs

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Well done-I DO hope the qualification has been obtained from a proper university.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 19:08:53
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jun 13 2008, 06:18 PM) [snapback]459646[/snapback]
Can we not please stick to the thread topic? rolleyes.gif

You're very easily wound up MJ, you should take a deep breath and think before you post. smile.gif

Hmm-perhaps I am, but certainly not by the previous poster. I have no intention of elaborating here. If you want more information feel free to join the growing band of p.m. friends of Mortonjag. You might be surprised to experience the undoubted pleasure that will convey.

Oh and as for sticking to the thread-were you expecting a seven page in depth debate about a simple announcement that DI's on tonight's wireless? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-13 19:19:58
QUOTE(El Duderino @ Jun 13 2008, 07:03 PM) [snapback]459658[/snapback]
Nope. Public message boards are fair game whether you're prudish and straightlaced, or completely radical in your views and opinions.

As I said, If you are getting nowhere within the NHS then you might get somewhere with a cosmetic surgeon privately

I can assure you that I have researched that area-I used the term NHS loosely-you are probably aware that in Scotland there is really no such thing as a consultant who works solely in the private sector. Those who do will not get GP referrals and will have to rely on Private clinics with relevant advertising, which brings me full circle. Where can I get BOTOX treatment for my very wrinkly willie?
mortonjag 2008-06-13 19:23:38
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 13 2008, 07:09 PM) [snapback]459665[/snapback]
Maybe not a proper uni per say.
But the business school has a very good reputation smile.gif

...and it had the hotter birds!

So your 'degree's a wee bit like your banknote? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-13 19:26:08
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 13 2008, 07:23 PM) [snapback]459676[/snapback]
Hey Cutey, don't worry about little sparky. I told you I love the wee man just the way he is.

xxx

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Please don't hi-jack my serious thread. I shall perhaps weep!
mortonjag 2008-06-13 19:29:37
QUOTE(Toby @ Jun 13 2008, 07:20 PM) [snapback]459675[/snapback]
I'll be grudgingliy renewing my season ticket again. My first was in 95/96 and I've had one ever since.

Whilst I'm happy with the new management set up and expect an imrovement on last year I really object to buying one but don't feel I can't have one. Captive audience and all that....

What are the benefits of being a season ticket holder after all? We'll get 18 league games, no cup ties and I doubt the Hartlepool friendly will be on the season ticket. You do however get reduced entry to hospitality, something that's of no interest to me as I don't fancy sharing my leisure time with Inverclyde's resident tooth rotter. Last season the only benefits that Morton's supposedly loyalest fans got from being season ticket holders was priority to get tickets for a Challenge Cup tie at East Stirling..... Hardly merits the outlay.

And also, if I was to travel from East Kilbride to Greenock every second Saturday to go to a cinema only to be told by the owner of that cinema that I'm not as valued a customer as the blokes that go to the cinema in the east end of Glasgow, I wouldn't be giving him my custom for too long.

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mortonjag 2008-06-13 19:32:49
QUOTE(ianton @ Jun 13 2008, 07:26 PM) [snapback]459678[/snapback]
mortonjag i wish you would get to fcuk off this board.go and start your own forum.you are the most ignorant person that i have ever came across in forums.you can never stick to the subject,you have got to twist the subject out of context.thank fcuk i have you on ignore.you are nothing but a self centered old b*****d.

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mortonjag 2008-06-13 22:38:10
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 13 2008, 08:28 PM) [snapback]459720[/snapback]
yes, we know laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-06-13 22:41:04
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jun 13 2008, 08:52 PM) [snapback]459733[/snapback]
Have you tried running a very hot iron over it?

Will it work?
mortonjag 2008-06-13 22:47:45
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Jun 13 2008, 08:50 PM) [snapback]459732[/snapback]
Kermint is fine, he's got a frog-seat waiting to be fitted once I buy a car.
I have the pass plus booked for Monday and Tuesday morning also, which should reduce the insurance although I'm not sure if it's worth it.

Maybe someone who's taken it could clarify.

I'd advise you to be very careful indeed-not every frog seat fits every car. I don't want to alarm you but one of my very best friends lost a frog in a car accident last July. He just bought the seat on e-bay with no fitting instructions, and thought he had secured it properly. Off he went for a drive in the country- hit a patch of diesel and totally lost control. He was fine but the car was a write off and they had to scrape the frog off a tree-well they didn't have to- but he wanted to give the puree a decent burial. So-be careful!
mortonjag 2008-06-13 22:54:40
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 13 2008, 07:28 PM) [snapback]459682[/snapback]
Awesome...can't wait to start!
Sorry Ghost...I'm out!
Ah so you are a snob eh? Ach well..at the end of the day I know for a fact we got taught the exact same stuff...not much you can do with accounts seeing as it is followed by law smile.gif

I'm not sure if snob is the correct word but those days 'I have a Uni degree' means very little until it's qualified.

QUOTE(Mick @ Jun 13 2008, 10:10 PM) [snapback]459763[/snapback]
Puggs,

Do yourself a favour and get your exams. With the number of exemptions you'll get from your degree you can be done in two years, and time served in three.

Yeah, it's not particularly glamorous (ask Cowshed Chris, who I believe is part way through his exams?) but I personally believe it's short term pain for long term gain.
When you've seen the light and moved out of practice, you can do what the hell you like.....

It's usually well worth while to make the extra sacrifice-I agree.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 23:00:51
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 13 2008, 08:24 PM) [snapback]459716[/snapback]
It's just football jargon to make it easier for the humble football fan to understand. It happens, and is said, at every club. I'm sure both player and the club have the legalities in place to protect each other.

The normal jargon is 'told he CAN leave' which is very different from 'told to leave'.

I'm not sure who this humble football fan is. The average football fan can understand plain English.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 23:08:06 What's all this-a wicked conspiracy to discredit the Club and get some poor soul his jotters.

OK-somebody made a wee mistake-those things happen-some of you guys would do well to take a long hard look at yourselves before you wantonly criticise folk who are only doing their best.

It would be different if the running of the club was an utter farce, or the fans were being sold short, but hey, cut them a wee bit slack.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 23:22:00 The Chairman has become a liability. Those who are privy to variable amounts of background information are in no doubt about that. Furthermore we still have no answer to the role of the mysterious Mr Donald. He's quite simply NOT there in an advisory capacity-Mr Rae listens to nobody-FACT. He said he wouldn't be investing money 'at that stage' in the solitary statement he made to the Tilly.

...and he IS worth a King's ransom-so what the f*ck's going on behind closed doors. We've just had a new share issue to (I'm led to believe) bring the Stadium up to SPL standard, yet Rae's not spending a penny on the players he needs to get us there.

Somebody else-Chrissiboi perhaps, recently asked why the Chairman can't just come out in the open with a statement of pros and cons for the future. I for one would grant him at least a grain of respect if he showed that he gave a fig for what the fans think.

I smell a rat.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 23:29:09
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 13 2008, 11:10 PM) [snapback]459795[/snapback]
doesn't that only remove them from your index - they stay on the server?

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OH DEAR

Tontastic-somebody hi-jacked my account yon time I told MidTONs I thought you were a self satified arrogant p***k with your head well up your own arse! If you try hard enough I'm sure you'll find it was TrumpingTon-he clearly knows all about those things-AND he's an evil c*nt.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 23:36:15
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 13 2008, 11:31 PM) [snapback]459804[/snapback]
and when i agreed in the return PM I had left myself signed on and Sean and a wee go on my PC.

I don't trust that Sean either-remember what I told you about him in my recent pm-how he thinks he's going to become the new fans representative on the board and stuff and how Shoogly let me in on the real truth behind Jim McColl when I was down for dinner.
mortonjag 2008-06-13 23:44:42
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 13 2008, 11:40 PM) [snapback]459806[/snapback]
Thats right point the finger at me , its hard enough to get them to answer my question about how long it would take to get to full development status at youth level , without asking about a medium to longterm plan for the whole club . laugh.gif

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Well somebody DID say it-Toby perhaps-anyway I've said it now.

Am I the only fan who is sick of the 'need to know basis' arrogance of 'the Club'?
mortonjag 2008-06-13 23:51:19
QUOTE(Rossco @ Jun 13 2008, 11:42 PM) [snapback]459808[/snapback]
Since Monday night my pc was freezing randomly during normal operation tried the usual starting in safe mode trying to run few registry programmes but these were freezing halfway through.

Eventually the freezing got worse after logging in was getting 5 mins max before it was ceasing up.

Was also freezing in safe mode however, one of the times I ran a scan it said that was boot problem but was unable to read it due to pc shuttin down instead of freezing.

Eventually I gave up & tried reinstalling operating system this made no diference at all pc was still freezing & then had a half installed operating system.

Eventually managed to restore to factory settings after sheer persistence & a few colourful phrases but the freezin problem still occurs which means I am unable to set up windows for 1st use.

The pc is a Dell Inspirion with 2Gb Ram & was only purchased in February & this is the 1st problem Ihave had with it.

The Dell site is s*** so have no idea whether dell has a warranty thing that would cover me (probably not & hould have purchased the service thing with my pc)

Anybody offer any advice on what may be causing the freezing & offer any solutions I can made run from the Bios menu/ boot menu?

I'm pretty certain Dell cover all their stuff for the first year.
mortonjag 2008-06-14 00:00:19
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 13 2008, 11:47 PM) [snapback]459810[/snapback]
Thats how I see things also the longer the bumbling continues the more damage DDFR is doing to his reputation.

The damage is well and truly done-there are still a few who won't hear a bad word said in public but not one solitary poster now defends his stewardship of the club. Indeed I sometimes wish somebody would demonstrate all the good things he's done in the last three years instead of simply attacking those who believe he's done nothing.
mortonjag 2008-06-14 00:04:27
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 14 2008, 12:01 AM) [snapback]459815[/snapback]
After someone highlighted problems at the turnstiles this is another worrying tale .

Yes it would be different if the running of the club were an utter farce but sometimes they don't seem to reach those high standards .

Indeed- I'd suggest tragedy may be more apposite! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-14 08:04:08
CHALLENGE




Right Andy, here goes- Mortonjag's mighty pissed off with all the abuse he gets for being a really nice chap. sleep.gif Now the problem here is that Mortonjag will only be generous if he gets an apology from some of the misguided morons who think he's just an old 'bawbag' and is scared of Auld Shoogly.

So here's how it will work-(from now till the start of the new season) Mortonjag will sponsor the first away match at Dingwall by matching every donation to the webcast effort pound for pound up to a total of £100. Today you can already have that £200 in the kitty if one of my detractors wil put HIS money where his mouth is.

All Mortonjag asks in return is that those pledges are made on this thread and signed 'Mortonjag is a good egg'! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

There you go Andy -they keep accusing the Jag of being an old windbag. Will they match me up to that magic £100. Which lovely person will be first-Spurtle, Tontastic, Ratarse, Trumpet, Professor Piehole, good gracious-I could go on and on-that Alibi's minted I'm told and Tonsilitis could buy Golden Casket with his pocket money. Mr Bam hides up there in the leafy Mearns pleading church mouse poverty, and last but not least I have to mention Mr Edwards and his wee friend trois maisons-Belgium's answer to Donald trump.


I challenge some of those better heeled afficionados to pledge £100 each, PROVIDED the combined target of £200 is reached by the start of the season.

This can work guys-if ten of you pledge a tenner and eight pledge £100 we'll have a grand in the kitty before the season's even kicked off

mortonjag 2008-06-14 08:13:56
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Jun 14 2008, 06:01 AM) [snapback]459845[/snapback]
Only the bold jag could come away with this statement but if it were dougies doing woe betide him

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How much will you be pledging to the webcast? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-14 08:16:51
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 14 2008, 08:01 AM) [snapback]459846[/snapback]
It's not as bad as some on here make out. And it's not as good as some at the Club make out.
We will have both good and bad times. We have seen the really bad times in our recent history, so perhaps some good times are just around the corner. rolleyes.gif
For the immediate season ahead, we should by the Law of Averages get a decent Cup run and finish in the top half of the league.
If you are looking further ahead, I expect to be in the SPL within 5 years.

Simple tongue.gif

Could be true Spurtle!

How much will you be pledging to the webcast? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-14 08:22:17
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 14 2008, 03:21 AM) [snapback]459836[/snapback]
Puggsy you stupid c***, go study something useful, like how to get your hole before you're 30. Do it.

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mortonjag 2008-06-14 08:35:12
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jun 14 2008, 02:17 AM) [snapback]459833[/snapback]
Complete and utter dung. Completely fabricated inflammatory dung.

Andy Rooney said none of that. As any simple google would tell you.

I really do f�ck�ng despair at times.

If you agree with sh�t� like this please say it. But don't hide behind the fact that "someone else said and I agree" as an easy in or a cop out. Or pretend that because someone famous said it that it's OK to agree cos someone said what you thought.

Fairplay to the bewildered beast - this is what he thinks and agrees with.

For me, it's a great example of intolerance and appealing to a discriminatory agenda at it's base level - but each to their own.

TonInDublin


I most certainly agree in principle with some of 'that s***' TiD.


It's gets back to the old moral from 'the Emperor's new clothes'-no PC wallah is EVER going to force folk to change their perception of reality.


I endorse common decency-I believe in 'Do unto others as you would have them do to you'-indeed I live by what used to be allowed to be called *potential ethnic slur removed* values. wink.gif


QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 14 2008, 03:03 AM) [snapback]459834[/snapback]
Catch a *potential ethnic slur removed* by the toe.

Next you'll be telling us that you had a black boy money box.

No, but there was one in Blackwood the Butcher's on Lochwinnoch road-you put an 'old' penny in the little *potential ethnic slur removed*'s hand and pulled a lever at the side whereupon he 'ate' it. It used to fascinate me-I was always fascinated by mechanical devices, and should never have gone into medicine.
mortonjag 2008-06-14 08:41:02
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 14 2008, 03:29 AM) [snapback]459839[/snapback]
Why make members swear allegiance to a Christian God then? They're a Christian organisation.

I'm not Jewish and I would never consider joining, or protesting against, a Jewish celebration. Should I? I'd probably get sympathy.

I thought they just swore allegiance to 'God'-given that that's such an airy fairy concept and most of them are just wee fairies anyway, does it really matter?
mortonjag 2008-06-14 08:45:24
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Jun 14 2008, 08:07 AM) [snapback]459848[/snapback]
To be fair to the seller on ebay - it does state, in extreme circumstances, the frog has a tendancy to go flying from the seat andsplatter against nearby objects. I suppose it's just one of the risks to be taken.

That's absolutely true : never was the saying CAVEAT EMPTOR more compelling than when buying frog seats or toad stools on the internet.
mortonjag 2008-06-14 08:49:15
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 14 2008, 08:31 AM) [snapback]459855[/snapback]
Sounds a bit painful if you ask me. huh.gif unsure.gif

Don't be a Silly Billy-I meant copy and paste your certificate of membership of the Royal College of Psychiatry.

But solvite your scrotum if that seems more acceptable.
mortonjag 2008-06-14 08:54:51
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jun 14 2008, 08:39 AM) [snapback]459858[/snapback]
I'm in agreement with some other folks here. You should def get in with an accountancy firm and take a hit for a few years and do some exams. Yes, this job will be very accountant-ish, and the money will probably be total crap for a few years, but it will def be better in the long run - especially if you are prepared to move about.

Other careers - financial services is a decent place to get into and has decent prospects. If you want to be an IFA and have a bit of good fotrune you could be earning £100,000 by the time you are in your early 30's.

Avoid a call centre like the plague! Even if the money seems decent (which is unlikely). These places will sap the ambition from you and take years from your life!

Also - recruitment consultants! Be aware that jobs advertised on companies websites often do not exist, or are not directly available to that company. Your best bet is to e-mail or phone someone in their local office and go and see them. Also - these people only get paid if they find you a job, so be wary of what they want to propose for you and only go for jobs you fancy. They will likely play the numbers game and send you for about 10 interviews.

PM me if you want and I can give you some details of someone I've had a bit of success with.


You sound like a pretty successful chap Piehole-will you be making a contribution to the webcast-remember the Jag will match you pound for pound up to a total of £100.

Oh-maybe some kind soul could quote this post for the Professor's benefit.
mortonjag 2008-06-14 09:00:48
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 14 2008, 08:48 AM) [snapback]459863[/snapback]
If you pledge to the "country" what country would that be then ? I could never pledge alliegance to britain. So would nationalists be barred too ?

Good for you Spurtle-it's easy to say that from the relative comfort of your padded cell, but my Old Man had no choice in 1939-well not QUITE true-he could have chosen an un-padded one.

Anyway-important matters-have you pledged anything to the webcast yet-remember you can make me part with luvly munny! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-14 09:08:38
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jun 14 2008, 08:39 AM) [snapback]459859[/snapback]
how low can you go Doctor? offering cash incentives for people to apologize to you, very sad. If you really want people to believe that your not scared of 'Auld Shoogly' then the route that i believe that you should take is to stop highjacking threads that do not involve Dougie Rae and then convince the 'unbelievers' with facts, not sly digs at someone who doesn't post on this board (maybe he does, i dont know). Start a 'Shoogly out' campaign where you can use your cash incentives to pay for t-shirts and badges for people sympathetic with your views. Its really not about the money, like many posters on this board i could match your cash incentives, but what does that prove? nothing. I am not one of those 'Dougie can do no wrong' fans, but i am yet to be convinced fully that he has been/is a detrimental force at the club. So convince me and i will join your happy wee gang, but i would want to see facts not bribes.

So you do not intend to contribute to a thoroughly good cause because you're too daft to see what's really going on! rolleyes.gif

Lighten up man-wake up and smell the coffee-donate even a measly pound and I'll match it-I'll even let you sign it-Mortonjag's a pish spouting paedo! wink.gif

That's a special offer by the way-cos I really like you. Mortonjag likes all Ton supporters except Real Hoops, but if he makes a contribution, Mortonjag will like him too.
mortonjag 2008-06-14 09:13:14
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 14 2008, 08:34 AM) [snapback]459856[/snapback]
Eh ? blink.gif Whit webcast ?

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It's on another forum Spurtle-c'mon man geeza wee donation-I'l match you pound for pound up to £100, and for anything over a fiver I'll not say a bad word about the SNP for a full week-PROMISE! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-14 09:17:27
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Jun 14 2008, 08:40 AM) [snapback]459860[/snapback]
when I am at home I go to every game and only do the webcast if I cant make it........................home or away

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It's becoming clear that those sub-forums don't work AJC-I'm matching donations to Andy's webcast up to £100-see the other forum. Anything over a fiver, and I'll buy you a Killie Pie if you're willing to pick it up in Glasgow! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-14 09:59:42
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 14 2008, 09:52 AM) [snapback]459872[/snapback]
You're only interested in it cos your drunk ya user sad.gif

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Hey Puggs-now that you can no longer plead poor student poverty, would you care to get the ball rolling by making a little donation to the webcast which the good Jag will match pound for pound?

I know you make about £50,000 p.a. in piping fees, but so far I've not dropped you in it with the Revenue.
mortonjag 2008-06-14 10:09:38 Police said Long, 45, watched and listened while Honeycutt, 38, sexually assaulted the boys.

The mother of two reportedly also showed her breasts, "open-mouth kissed" some of the boys, engaged in a sexual conversation and entered the shower with a miner.



Nothing wrong with cleaning off the coal dust before action.
mortonjag 2008-06-14 10:14:44
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jun 14 2008, 09:56 AM) [snapback]459875[/snapback]
Cheers for that GMFC.

As for the rest of the dross posted, do we really have to wade through the same s*** on every thread?

Get the finger oot Edinton.

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I didn't know GMFC and Edinton were quite so close.
mortonjag 2008-06-14 10:18:00
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 14 2008, 10:06 AM) [snapback]459883[/snapback]
The patented MJ "highlight one wee bit in pink and avoid all other questions" wink.gif

Which questions did Mortonjag avoid?
mortonjag 2008-06-14 10:20:22
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Jun 14 2008, 09:58 AM) [snapback]459877[/snapback]
nice one biggrin.gif

TY smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-14 10:24:29
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 14 2008, 10:07 AM) [snapback]459884[/snapback]
I'm now pleading "need a job" poverty laugh.gif

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That'll be a 'no' I take it. Maybe this is going to be harder than I thought. I imagined folk would want to take money off the Jag! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Oh well-the real loser will be the Ton.
mortonjag 2008-06-14 10:40:40
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 14 2008, 10:27 AM) [snapback]459893[/snapback]
look, are you saying that GMFC is about to fold? s*** or get off the pot
I didn't understand that question. English is my native tongue.
have you written to alistair yet?
I never suggested I would-your question is therefore invalid.
have you bought those shares?
Which shares are you talking about?
have you got the next shareholders' meeting in your diary?
I have several shareholders meetings in my diary
have you joined the trust?
Yes, I have by proxy and am currently doing my best to raise money by pledging up to £100 to Andy's webcast and I challenge you to do the same.
They are quite easy to spot from Trumpingtons post....hint, they have question marks in them wink.gif



There you are young man, and less of your impertinence-don't imagine that just because you're about to get a useless scrap of paper from some jumped up night school you can start the facetious stuff with Mortonjag-what's it to be this time-pink botty skelping- a nail through your wee tadger-or the Monkey pays a visit to centre one?????????????

Those last wee things are interrogation marks-they mean you are duty bound to answer my question. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-14 12:30:32
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 14 2008, 11:22 AM) [snapback]459909[/snapback]
what a total and utter pr ick.

Damned if I do, and damned if I don't eh!

As I said before, the only loser here is going to be the Ton if folk don't take up my offer. If I'm a pr1ck for trying to help the effort-where does that leave you.

I take it you'll not be contributing! wacko.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-14 12:40:24
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 14 2008, 10:55 AM) [snapback]459903[/snapback]
My my don't wee get angry when someone points out how you purposefully missed out something. I am still certain you have everything required to be a politician.

Oh and just because I went to a "jumped up night school" does not mean I did not have the higher results to get into a good uni, I chose mine simply for good business school and the lack of pretentious "oooh we're in uni let's go to Starbucks and discuss deep throat provoking arguments from our textbooks" around the whole establishment.

And to anser your question....botty skelping please smile.gif

If you got Higher English the standards must have slipped abysmally. wink.gif

Why is it that every time I dangle the carrot about a 'proper university' it's gobbled greedily by folk who FULLY understand the point I'm making and would be better staying quiet?

Ten good hard skelps on the little pink botty, and a pound to Andy's piggy bank then?

Oh, and to your original point 'wee' didn't get angry at all-the so called 'questions' thoroughly deserved the contempt with which they were originally treated, and my subsequent answers demonstrate why.

Trumpet is not particularly bright, and an inveterate trouble maker who'd rather attempt to score cheap points that help the Ton cause.
mortonjag 2008-06-14 12:50:53
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 14 2008, 11:09 AM) [snapback]459905[/snapback]
it's beyond tiresome. unfortunately edinton doesn't have the balls to deal with mentaljag.

anyway, thanks gmfc. pity i had to skim 35-odd posts of that dullard's pish before i got to your post.

Mentajag bribes him!

You're back to using the Jag as a target for your pent up frustrations Einstein. Why don't you just admit you're a f*ckin' loser with a chip on your shoulder.

Frustration's a dreadful thing. Would you like a job with one of my son's companies? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-14 12:59:22 How anybody can suggest that someone in his right mind would want to 'buy out' Rae defeats logic.

There is a man currently sitting on the Board of Directors who is infinitely more wealthy that Mr Rae.

He has not made his money by buying companies for four times their actual value.
mortonjag 2008-06-14 13:08:16
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 14 2008, 11:47 AM) [snapback]459922[/snapback]
It is not a market we can afford to compete in.

When clubs like the Huns, Newcastle, Manchester United and Arsenal offer to pay all expenses for a trial of 14 days or so, wot is the attraction of Cappielow to Aussies lads who may be the next Scott McDonald ?

And is an Aussie scout going to offer talent to us if he has easier access to bigger clubs ?

Newt-I think things have got to the stage where you'll have to spell it out more clearly.

If you told a few clowns on here you had offered, let's say, twenty grand to help the Ton-had your offer snubbed-and then were billed over two grand for something that had f*ck all to do with you they'd laugh you to scorn, just as my genuine offer today to help Andy M's effort has already been ridiculed by a pair of super clots.
mortonjag 2008-06-14 13:19:08
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 14 2008, 12:44 PM) [snapback]459955[/snapback]
i'll be having nothing to do with you or your immense self-regard.

Well at least in you we have a poster whose modesty knows know ends, and someone who really only has the interests of Greenock Morton at heart! laugh.gif


Or could it be someone who's skint because he f*cked up his career, has a massive chip on his shoulder, chooses to make a complete and utter fool of himself over another poster's 'persona', and would rather spend his money on mind altering substaces to numb the pain of failure?

mortonjag 2008-06-14 13:23:21
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Jun 14 2008, 01:01 PM) [snapback]459965[/snapback]
I totally agree with you mate, i only noticed when i changed banks! I called up to switch all my direct debit details over and the woman said " there is a standing order here for Greenock Morton FC but they have not given a start date "

Total shambles.

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Well done Sir-yet another nail in the coffin of those who have an innocent belief in all that is good behind the scenes!
mortonjag 2008-06-14 13:26:15
QUOTE(foobs the elder @ Jun 14 2008, 01:22 PM) [snapback]459970[/snapback]
There we go again !!!!!!!

All mouth and trousers

Put up or SHUT UP and gie our ears (sorry eyes) a rest wi yer constant Bitching..
Foobs

Was there something inaccurate in my statement?
mortonjag 2008-06-14 13:34:20
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 14 2008, 10:51 AM) [snapback]459900[/snapback]
Suggested solutions for the club

1) Season ticket book issued by post or courier only to address supplied and only posted after the following checks
  • Bank details checked with bank
  • Voters roll check to verify person is at address - cost = annual sub to likes of Dunn and Bradstreet (works out at maybe 50p per ticket)
2) Computer system to highlight missed/bounced DDs - Speak to club's bankers about them monitoring this for us as they have the systems in place

3) All season ticket vouchers to clearly show the number of the season ticket book they came from so that a list of suspended season tickets can be placed at turnstyles and each voucher checked against that list on matchdays. If your ticket is on the list, entry to the ground after explaining yourself at office.

None of the above is very hard or needs much extra effort!

Or employ competent staff!

QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 14 2008, 11:00 AM) [snapback]459904[/snapback]
funniest post of the year! pure fantasyland, mate. this is morton fc we're talking about here, not some proper outfit with a half-decent idea of what they're doing.

Really! Jeezo-revelation of the century-BRAVO that man. laugh.gif

QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jun 14 2008, 12:27 PM) [snapback]459945[/snapback]
You're right, it's not the Trust's problem but you'd expect a shareholder in any company to be concerned that that company isn't maximising it's income. Particularly when they are losing out on money as a result of their own incompetence.

Correct.

QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Jun 14 2008, 12:43 PM) [snapback]459954[/snapback]
Am I the only one that found this quote from mortonjag utterly hilarious? laugh.gif

Would you care to explain why my little fishy?
mortonjag 2008-06-14 13:38:22
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 14 2008, 11:18 AM) [snapback]459908[/snapback]
Indeed that will be a no.

You can't afford even a pound? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-14 13:42:26
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jun 14 2008, 11:43 AM) [snapback]459919[/snapback]
is that a hint the monkeys portfolio will be increasing?
a lot of property development companies predicted (and you could say that when they did they themselves induced it) and sold some of their properties just before the turn of the year, and are reinvesting at rock bottom levels just now. its bold stuff, but will probably work



I'm not sure-I believe in letting my children learn by their own mistakes, though the Monkey does have a big smile on his face right now!
mortonjag 2008-06-14 13:55:29
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 14 2008, 11:37 AM) [snapback]459915[/snapback]
i don't get upset at this pc stuff, but it seems to me that a lot of the people who do are just pissed off that they can't say n1gger or pak1 anymore. even though they all, to a man, come across like four-year-olds getting a naughty wee thrill off their first swear word.

Nah-faither-you're too busy getting your pampers in a twist because some old fud on a pubic massage board is your new Santa Claus.

QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 14 2008, 11:53 AM) [snapback]459923[/snapback]
available on ebay for 85 quid.

Why were they called greedy boxes ?



http://www.tiffany-antiques.co.uk/original...-1950s-77-p.asp


'Cos they gobbled up the munny!
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jun 14 2008, 12:36 PM) [snapback]459950[/snapback]
n1gger...n1gger...n1gger

pak1....pak1...pak1...

ch1nky...ch1nky...ch1nky
b00bs...b00bs...b00bs..
p00fter...p00fter..p00fter

It's not what you say, it's the way that you say it WDE!

Example-I say to Newt-'Listen to me Sonny boy'-he laughs.

I say to LCM 'I am vastly experienced, infinitely wealthy, have a beautiful young blonde partner half my age, and offer consultancy services to several departments at the Scottish Office'-he doesn't!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Why can't some folk cope with others' superiority?
mortonjag 2008-06-14 14:03:17
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Jun 14 2008, 10:22 AM) [snapback]459891[/snapback]
Pretty much going solo with the insurance so it should definately bring it down a bit then. I'm pretty sure only certain insurance companies take the pass plus into consideration though.
So bored in work I thought I'd check it out...

http://wantitnow.ebay.co.uk/BUGABOO-FROG-S...idZ150250781361

Hmmmmmmm.

There's not been a single bid though-I wouldn't trust them-maybe you should contemplate not taking Kermit out in the car at all!

BTW I was serious about Scottish Autotrader-plenty of great deals in second hand private sales, but you need help from somebody who knows motors.
mortonjag 2008-06-14 14:07:39
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 14 2008, 01:25 PM) [snapback]459972[/snapback]
A recent sketch confirms his sartorial and pschoanalytical sides.

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDThat looks more like a psychopath!
mortonjag 2008-06-14 14:52:51
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jun 14 2008, 02:17 PM) [snapback]459991[/snapback]
I feel for you Ernie. I was involved in a four hour meeting with the Board Of Directors of the HSE in Ireland on Thursday - in an advisory/education capacity. Painful. With these guys in charge it's no surprise to me that the health service in Ireland is in the state it's in. What was more laughable was the claims of the Chairman that "we've made progress in the last two years, and we don't get the credit we deserve. We've got a 90% patient satisasfaction rating".

He squirmed just a bit when I pointed out that the survey was from people who had managed to get surgery, and tended to exclude the tens of thousands who are waiting 2-3 years for it ! Talk about selective statistics.

State and semi-state bodies need a good kick up the arse. I spent an hour of the four hours I had with them educating them on Lean Manufacturing, and gave them several examples where it has been applied superbly in the health sector - the Mayo Clinic in particular have made telling improvements with its application. I gave them one example involving the use of MRI's and physiotherapy in the Mayo clinic and how they had revolutionised themselves, freeing up their constraint (the MRI machine) and accurately diagnosing 100% of people faster - first time every time. Their response "yes, but you need to understand John - that could never happen here - too many senior consultants are making a fortune from our inefficiencies and if they withdrew their support we'd be in a worse position".

Jesus wept.

TonInDublin



Jobs for the boys-you'll never beat them I'm afraid-FFS John it's hard enough getting fellow Ton supporters to open their eyes to reality-a man truly hears what he wants to hear and tries to rubbish the rest! wink.gif


I had a blazing row with one of my siblings a few years back. At the time he was deputy Director of Education in a Scottish region, and in their infinite wisdom the Directorate had issued a circular to all Head Teachers saying how they wanted a certain issue addressed. One Maverick 'headie' decided to ignore Diktat, and was duly hauled up before the Directors to be 'spanked'.

OK maybe he was wrong-maybe he was right- but he apparently came out with...'You see, I thought that....' to which my brother proudly announced he'd said 'You had no right to think anything of the kind'........ at which I f*cking EXPLODED.

Bloody arseholes sitting in their cosy wee offices justifying inflated salaries and telling a Headmaster and fellow professional he had 'no right to think'.

Well the battle of words raged for at least two hours, and he eventually 'won' by calling me a 'sad b*****d' and going off to bed in the huff!

The thing is that in real life he's a perfectly OK guy.

I sympathise with your frustrations! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-14 15:03:12
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 14 2008, 02:55 PM) [snapback]460006[/snapback]
see this mental illness you've got, is that the root cause of your total arseholishness or is it something separate you've had to work on?

Is that what's commonly described as a loaded question? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-14 15:08:21
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 14 2008, 02:29 PM) [snapback]459997[/snapback]
Back to the original article.

Some who came here from old Oireland as economic migrants liked the place, decided that they liked being British and Scottish, integrated.

Others developed plastic paddydom to a fine art.

I know in which camp I would place the mammy. mad.gif

Mibbies it was a sheltered Greenock upbringing, maybe there were plastics aplenty in Greenock though I can't say that I met any.

Glasgow and it's environs, that's a different story. dry.gif

Mr Bam-I kinda get the drift of what you're saying, but can you define Plastic Paddydom in a few sentences.

More and more, on this pubic massageboard, I become concerned at the prevalence of petty preconceptions.
mortonjag 2008-06-14 15:19:42
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jun 14 2008, 02:29 PM) [snapback]459998[/snapback]
In order to get this kick started I'll put up the first £50 MJ - with your matched funds that's £100 before we get started.

Looks like the money will be used to bring under priviledged kids to a match or kids from other deserving organisations to Cappielow. Wouldn't it be great if this board could rustle up a grand of that ? £900 to go, £50 of which MJ will still match - and here's the deal - if we get £200 pledged from the board, I'll match MJ's offer - so if we get £200 of donations it'll automatically double to £400.

I'll trust Andy to be the harbinger of the donations. Trust the big man implicitly.

So £50 guaranteed Andy. £100 if we pass £200. Let me know how much I owe you and I'll square you away.

TonInDublin

Superb John-I was really beginning to worry about my motives being misinterpreted, but it's only since I gave the Trust a wee nudge recently that I've become more aware of what goes on, and Andy is a good example of what can be achieved by one man's efforts.

I frankly can't be arsed listening to excuse after excuse for folks' inability to stand up to Rae. The man is a tyrant IMO, and no excuses are needed, but I now realise how important it is to get as much investment as possible from the 'ordinary fans'.

...and just to confirm to you and Andy that's £50 from me to match yours.

mortonjag 2008-06-14 15:36:00
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 14 2008, 02:58 PM) [snapback]460012[/snapback]
'poster'. the guy's ruining the board and you've got your head in the sand. see you in a couple of days, i hope you recover your mental wellbeing to the extent where you can deal with the problem.

From a grown adult, and intelligent poster that 'playground' comment is really sad-and that's NOT a personal attack or 'sniping'.

We had exactly the same stuff from Donga about a month ago, and I think it's outrageous that posters start calling the Mods in question simply because their own selfish requests are not met.

To put some kind of perspective on all this- I offered in good faith today to donate up to £100 to Andy M's efforts. That genuine offer (which has thankfully been re-inforced by TiD) was 'rubbished' by yourself and another poster.

While I'm on-and this is for Edinton too-I never wantonly attack fellow posters, but I'm damned sure I will continue to defend my corner, and as port-ton hints, a large number of my posts are defensive.

mortonjag 2008-06-14 15:42:03 Just a wee update-- TiD has pledged £50 which I've matched so we're sitting at £100 and I'll continue to match up to another £50.

Time for money instead of mouths folks! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-14 15:47:35
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 14 2008, 03:41 PM) [snapback]460046[/snapback]
have you ever used the webcast? i think you are using andy's valuable service for your own ends.

why don't you just donate 500 quid on the quiet to andy's fund and give the rest of us peace about what a great guy you are.

i used to think mentaljag was a persona, but the mask never slips. i really think you are as much of a dick as you come across as.

...and I think that's sniping which is what the Mod just asked us to stop. smile.gif

mortonjag 2008-06-14 15:54:14
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 14 2008, 03:05 PM) [snapback]460018[/snapback]
see this mental illness you've got

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I understood that he has a penile illness ???

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Disability rather than illness-and it's mainly a problem in my head- though it is very wrinkly-not my head-my willie.
mortonjag 2008-06-14 16:01:08
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Jun 14 2008, 03:10 PM) [snapback]460027[/snapback]
Walked from T-Mobile today over 2 both McMillans garages, the Alan Church garage and then the Arnold Clark ones to find out a good mate of mine works there. Can get a really good deal on a few cars so may go back there.
Would have tried autotrader but I don't know anything about cars and don't really know anyone who could have a look at a car and tell me if it's ok to buy or not.

I which case you're safer with a local dealer who gets a good name locally because he has a reputation to maintain.

QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jun 14 2008, 03:19 PM) [snapback]460036[/snapback]
I would go to McMillans, old Arnie is a rogue. Tell them what you are after in McMillans and how much you want to spend. If they don't have anything suitable, tjey can get it for you. Arnold Clarks cars look nice but have usually got a pretty high mileage, depends what you are after.

I can't tell you the number of times I've heard that. I'm not saying that the old man himself is a crook, but the business is FAR too big to even be bothered with personal service-fine when all goes well, but any problem, and you discover you're just a number.
mortonjag 2008-06-14 16:09:29
QUOTE(dazed @ Jun 14 2008, 12:20 PM) [snapback]459943[/snapback]
i dont see why not, they should have the right to vote and although some have argued that they are not mature enough to have the right to vote you could argue that the elderly (they vote labour but cant remember why anymore) are in a similar position , and before anybody hits back Im in favour of both groups voting.

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That's a cracker-I can easily define the under 16's. How do you define those 'elderly'? That's the second time in as many days that I've heard this 'argument'. Old folk who are mentally 'past it' don't tend to find their way to the ballot box!

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 14 2008, 02:47 PM) [snapback]460001[/snapback]
It gives them the choice as responsible adults. What's wrong with that ? They are at an age were they can be sent to war and they can marry. Surely we can trust them with a vote too ?

Sixteen year old children are not responsible adults Spurtle.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 03:55:13
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 14 2008, 05:55 PM) [snapback]460077[/snapback]
Not even DDF has issued an outright threat against other Morton fans. Congratulations: a new low.

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Andy seems pleased with the offer.

TiD seems happy to join in the spirit and we're already at £100-that's a 1/6ths of last year's profits before we're half way through June.


I think it's fair to ask you and LCM and Big Doc why you three have (to use the 'in' phrase) attempted to hi-jack this thread which is supposed to be about fund raising.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 04:13:31
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jun 14 2008, 05:21 PM) [snapback]460070[/snapback]
There is a local goalkeeper here in Clane from Poland. Played in the second division in Poland. Most dedicated person I know and he's become a close friend. His team just got promoted to the top league in Poland and they want him back full time. He plays for the local team here, and they just won two leagues and two cups in two years. Trains 7 days a week - coaches all other goalkeepers from u10 up to senior level. Has refused terms with Kildare County - but I tell you this - he would be an outstanding signing for any Scottish club. Right now, he has told his Polish club he will go home at Xmas and sign then - at a higher standard than Morton by a mile. I really wish someone would have a look at him. Only reason he goes home is cos his wife and kids haven't moved over. If he got full time football I'm sure they would. First club to see him would snap him up.

Has been offered terms with every senior club in Kildare - but unless it's full time he wants to stay loyal to Clane. What a player - I kid you not.

TonInDublin

Have you written to 'the Club'? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-15 04:28:11
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 14 2008, 11:02 PM) [snapback]460167[/snapback]
se65an started a thread about the failure of the club to check on season tickets someone also raised the question about possible irregularities at the turnstiles at the q+a.

Not to mention the stance with the ARTC .

As Toby also mentioned DDFR's ability to say the wrong thing . The bring a friend after complaining about attendances in the matchday programme who else would have read the article unless you went to the match and bought a programme .If you can't see why supporters wouldn't feel a direct jib at them you really need to reposition your blinkers my friend .
The Celtic Fans best supporters in Scotland which we still didn't get an apology but I always noticed he made an apology to the press after he criticised them for their fixation with the old firm and the lack of coverage given to the lower leagues( obviously sports hacks have no loyalty to our club and the chairman could be criticised at will ) .

Correct Chris, and faithful fans of this club who have no loyalty to a tyrannical Chairman and who are growing tired of constant thick skinned stubborn and arrogant defence of the archaic loss making mess that is currently Greenock Morton-fans whose comments and opinions are regularly shouted down and threatened with censorship- are entirely at liberty to access the columns of the local and National press.

I expect-'you wouldn't dare'.

You know something Chris, I'm getting to the stage where I may have no choice.

mortonjag 2008-06-15 04:54:20 Ah-you're not such a bad chap really-you could have gone girning to thae overworked Mods Trumpet.

Anyway-do you think Alistair Donald is a real person or just a kind of life size 'cut out' a la Chairman Mao?

I had a wee dream that he's just a total 'plant' to lull us all into a false sense of security-something along the lines of........


'Crawford-where do I go from here, now that I can't dip the Golden Casket any more?

I'm damned if the football Club will ever see a penny of my personal fortune-that money's there for you son-you know that-but you keep telling me the 'natives are getting restless'-can they not see that Rome was not built in a day, and that Greenock has more hills?'

'Da-we'll huv tae peacify them-could we no kid them oan that ther some rich c*nt wantin' tae buy us oot?'

Crawford, my lad, a superb solution-sometimes-just sometimes I see that you are truly my son'. sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-15 05:04:00
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jun 14 2008, 09:49 PM) [snapback]460157[/snapback]
This is nonsense. As anyone who has/had a standing order for their season ticket knows, it is the customer who selects the start/end dates. If the SO mandate doesn't have a start date, the Bank should be contacting the customer and/or the Club. rolleyes.gif

Smiffy you are correct and wrong at the same time.

A supplier agrees to supply goods or services in return for a completed standing order mandate.

GMFC should not provide its services until that has been properly implemented. If GMFC continues to provide its services free it suffers financially on account of its own inefficiency.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 05:13:05
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jun 15 2008, 01:12 AM) [snapback]460212[/snapback]
Doubt it very much.
At the end of the day, no matter how hard-up Morton claim to be and how often DDFR asks you to bring a friend, buy a ticket for a sportsmans dinner which the players cant be arsed attending to raise more bawbees for the clubs coffers, Morton FC are and will always be considerably richer than most of its supporters.

When youre overdrawn at the bank and your struggling to pay your mortgage or car loan, an extra tenner or two comes in handy. Why give it to someone who doesnt appreciate your custom?
Same old, same old.
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Any respectable manager of any business with the same kind of issues that Morton are facing would consider implimenting these ideas or something similar, but Morton arent just any business, they are a community football club.

If the above were implimented, there would be instances of turnstile guys knowing a culprit from the scheme, the pub etc. and not blowing the whistle on them like theyre supposed to do, outstanding debtors may not get pursued by admin. staff the way they should because said staff know them on a personal level etc. Its the old stewards mates' kicking the big gate scenario all over again.

Its a mickey mouse club, run by mickey mouse people from top to bottom. They want £2million to bring Cappielow up to SPL standards, Morton will never get there because the attitudes have still not reached the 1990s, never mind the new millenium. SPL would cost Morton around £10million to do it properly, but alas, they want to do it on the cheap.
It will never change. Sadly.




I'd think the Chief Exec's more in the BFG league TBH.

mortonjag 2008-06-15 05:20:29
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jun 14 2008, 07:51 PM) [snapback]460105[/snapback]
if you are looking to become a property magnate ill happily become a consultant
for a small fee

No-I'm really quite content financially as I am-this project is just to give me a bit of fun and exercise my massive brain which is currently on 'tick over' and upsetting many who cannot match my intellect! tongue.gif

Seriously, I'm led to believe that 'Trois (or perhaps it's now quatre) maisons' de Brussels is our resident prorperteer.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 05:35:45
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 14 2008, 02:05 PM) [snapback]459988[/snapback]
so what unis are good enough for you rolleyes.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

You're still in the huff because I took the rip out of 'Pishley University'.



Bryan, I sometimes realise that well over half the piss taking I do goes over folks heads! What happens-they get all huffy or aggressive, and when the Jag matches them in the jousting stakes they want him banned, and DELIBERATELY try to discredit him when he's trying to help a Ton effort.

I think the behaviour on the forum yesterday was a disgrace-grown adults trying to bully Edinton just because they can't cope with Mortonjag is nothing short of spoilt brats clyping to the teacher having already punched back! rolleyes.gif

Anyway-Universities-I couldn't give a f*ck, but I DO get annoyed at jumped up little nobodies who can't spell or write a decent sentence thinking they've arrived because they got a bit of paper from Noddyland University.

A degree from anywhere is only a bloody passport to life.

The Bard said 'The rank is but the guinea stamp
the man's the gowd for a' that', and that's my take on life.

....and Paisley's a fine town with a fine university, Abbey, and SPL football stadium! wink.gif

mortonjag 2008-06-15 05:55:09
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Jun 14 2008, 08:32 PM) [snapback]460126[/snapback]
I'm probably ok with with as I'll get an MOT free of charge whenever required. Apparently my old man knows a guy who runs a garage, so may even take up your earlier advice on autotrader.

Although the Arnold Clark deal for £3500 on a 21000 mileage car sounds a bit too good to turn down especially with a very reliable mate offering the deal. Ok, I know salesman are all about the commission but I knoww the guy too well to know he'd act the c***.

£3500 is still serious money for your first motor. Compare what you're getting from Sir Arnold with what the same money will get you on the SAME MODEL in Autotrader. Probably a year younger for starters. I've bought more cars than I can remember, and you are at a huge advantage because you have no trade in.

The first rule is never to hurry-if you lose your dream car there's another just round the corner-cars are like women in that respect. Secondly learn as much as you can about what's available in your price range, and go for a compromise of what you really want, and what makes sense with the cost of petrol and insurance-you might want to think about diesel but currently it's not the saving it was.

Finally when you've made your mind up, view the car in good daylight with your 'mechanic' friend. Test drive it for at least five or six miles. You can usually get a good or bad feel about the seller. Elderly ladies parting with 10,000 miles very clean looking Nissan Micras with full service history tend not to be con artists, and they DO exist! If you have even the slightest doubt-walk away. It can be a bit daunting if you view two or three 'lemons' but it's good experience and worth waiting for the right motor.

It can also be fun-don't be impetuous, and don't hand old Arnie a whacking mark up on something he got for a knocked down trade in. You need your money-he doesn't. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-15 05:58:15 29 today-eh-I really hope you don't feel old! laugh.gif


Many happy returns young man.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 06:03:55
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 14 2008, 05:00 PM) [snapback]460065[/snapback]
You're back! laugh.gif
Nope, basturts wie three houses should be strung up by the gulags.

I'd prefer that they just removed them. Microsurgery is relatively inexpensive.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 06:21:43
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 15 2008, 04:27 AM) [snapback]460232[/snapback]
Is kangarooistan a nutter ?

are any of the following claims correct ?
http://phorums.com.au/archive/index.php/t-268102.html
INTRODUCTION

Islam broke world records of genocide, slavery, religiously sanctioned
rape, abuse of human rights, and prohibition of scientific inquiry. It
forbids Muslim emigration to the lands of the infidels because a
Muslim minority cannot enslave the infidel majority. Despite this
prohibition Muslims emigrate to the West, not as migrants, but as
conquerors. They live in sharia mini-states and expand these mini-
states by terrorizing infidel neighbors and driving them out.

The average European couple now has fewer than 1.4 babies, compared to
3.6 babies born to the average Muslim immigrant couple in Europe.

Across Western Europe 16 to 20 percent of babies are being born into
Muslim families

... By 2025, one-third of all European children will be
born to Muslims

... In Italy, 95% of all rapists are Muslims. Eighty-five
percent of all murderers are Muslims

... France will have a Muslim majority in less than 25 years!

Another telling statistic is that although the Muslims are 12% of France's population, 70 percent of a
total of 60,775 prisoners in France are Muslims!

All of France's urban suburbs are being roamed by Muslim black African or Arabic gangs... A
very high proportion of French Muslims are in the underclass, that
segment of the population that relies not so much on education and
work as on welfare and predatory activities. In fact, over one
thousand Muslim neighborhoods are under monitoring throughout France.
Seven hundred of those Muslim neighborhoods are listed as "violent"
and nearly 400 hundred are listed as "very violent." Violence ranges
from rape (95% of rapists are Muslim), murder (85% of murderers are
Muslim), theft and looting of cars (58% committed by Muslims) and
street fighting to assault on teachers and civil servants

... source: http://www.masada2000.org/islam.html


It's a fact that where I live (a once multi-cultural suburb) there has been a huge influx of foreign people in the last five years. It's also a fact that the multi-cultural population which pre-existed is to a greater or lesser degree perturbed by what they generally perceive to have been something 'thrust upon them'.

It is an indisputable fact that the vast majority of those incomers are Muslim by religion and fecund by nature.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 06:51:51
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 15 2008, 04:38 AM) [snapback]460234[/snapback]
Ernie doesn't post anything that is regarded as racist, or anything like that. sure he may post too much but the same way there is nothing stopping any single one of you posting as much as you want , there is nothing stopping him posting as much as he wants either. If there was a way to limit someone posting maybe 50 times a day then i'd be all for it, as i've went over that ammount before and can tell how annoying ive been. but the only thing MJ is to some people is annoying, which isn't a crime, and isnt a bannable offence.

Personally i feel, even though i disagree with him on a lot, that he brings up more valid points than just about every single person on here, and long may he continue to do so.


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Unfortunately my many critics, unlike yourself, have not experienced the 'real Ernie'! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-15 07:15:44 See thae effin mods-they are an effin disgrace. I have told them literally hunners o' times how they should be doing the job properly-they just don't listen. Effin, effin ridiculous, if you effin ask me.

I have time after time after time reported offensive and inaccurate posts-they just don't listen.

I never post on 'What are you listening to now 'cos it's childish-they refuse to delete the whole thread!

I wanted to start a new forum-'Uncle Mortonjag's bedtime stories for little kiddiewinkles'-they refused saying the over fifties might feel jealous'

Only yesterday I again asked that Donga, and LCM, and CHC, and Puggs, and Real Hoops, and Donkey Dave, and Nach0, and Cawston, and half a dozen others who KNOW who they are, should be BANNED-those guys ruin every thread for me with their petty jealousy and vituperous sniping, and they deliberately hi-jack every single thread I start, not that I start many, and specifically they call me a liar because I won't divulge confidentialities, and they constantly post in an offensively ageist manner, and I don't think I've ever, ever, ever, ever, known a pubic massage board whose Mods were such an utter effin disgrace as this lot-oh.........aye..and IF I WAS MOD things would be VERY different.

I'd start by banning for life every single poster whose opinion varied slightly from my own correct one-they'd soon get the message-in no time at all the forum would be perfect, and I could spend all day blissfully replying to my own posts. I think that would make me feel quite important. Revenge is great fun for vengeful folk eh! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-15 07:56:39
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 15 2008, 07:32 AM) [snapback]460247[/snapback]
I wanted to start a new forum-'Uncle Mortonjag's bedtime stories for little kiddiewinkles'-they refused saying the over fifties might feel jealous'

Did they survey the over 50s first - or just make an arbitrary decision ?

For all the good that these so called mods do, they may as well be rockers.

Perhaps you could try a new thread this evening - 'Uncle Mortonjag's bedtime stories for little kiddiewinkles' as a pilot.

some possible stories ???

The 3 Bares ?

Ebony - The Black Beauty ?

Cappielow - Home of Dreams ?

... worth a try ?

Are you sitting comfortably?

Then I'll begin.

No-wait newt I'd be hi-jacking my own post-ACTUALLY..... YOU just hi-jacked my post

I shall duly report you-it won't do a bit of good in the short term, but once Mortonjag's complaints reach the level of his posts I'm sure they'll do anything he asks just to keep him quiet.

Seems that's how the game's supposed to be played! dry.gif mad.gif

mortonjag 2008-06-15 08:28:13
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 15 2008, 07:54 AM) [snapback]460251[/snapback]
Fair point there.
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I think the term 'misperceived' is more accurate in relation to this warning thread Weegie.

It's uncanny how vulnerable we all are to mis-perception-I've often formed a rough opinion of a poster from his/her avatar and signature, only to discover I was MILES away from reality.


Having said that I believe that folk who actually dislike Mortonjag fall into three broad groups:

1/ Those who are totally taken in by the arrogant old fud persona-they are the most honest, and often the younger group.

2/ Those who hate Mortonjag because of what he says-the signature has remained unchanged now for about three years. Those folk feel the need to defend virtually anything the Jag attacks-they are irritating and sometimes extremely offensive, but they DO feel they have a point of view and are certainly entitled to their opinions.

3/ The resentfully jealous few with the full fish supper on their shoulders. I won't name them-they have been lobbying so hard for so long that the Mods occasionally waver in their commendable attempt to see fair play. They are a truly sad and despicable ragbag of pretenders to some imaginary forum throne which they see wrested from their clutches by the evil Doctor Mortonjag.

Invariably they are multiple posters themselves, and invariably they accuse the Jag of 'being up his own arse' with an almost pathetically whining irony. They differ from all other posters-they REALLY HATE the person behind the screen name.

It's not often, Weegie, that I make an 'on line' diagnosis, but it is my considered opinion that certain posters in this latter group have serious psychological problems.

Indeed I believe they require treatment, if they are to become more fulfilled on life's little journey.

Just the opinion of a sad old fud mind-no offence intended to anybody and I'm sure none will be taken! smile.gif

mortonjag 2008-06-15 08:42:17
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 15 2008, 08:10 AM) [snapback]460254[/snapback]
YOU just hi-jacked my post

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I was just trying to help.

I think your bed time stories will be wee rippers.

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QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jun 15 2008, 08:22 AM) [snapback]460256[/snapback]
I have settled on kippers and hot buttered toast this morning, with a cup of extra strong tea.

Have an urn of the stuff and stop hi-jacking my thread-this hi-Jacking of every thread is becoming far to common. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-15 08:45:31
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Jun 15 2008, 08:19 AM) [snapback]460255[/snapback]
Hmmmmmm laugh.gif

That makes finding a car scarier than I first imagined.

My Mum used to say to us 'What's done in haste is often rued at leisure'. There were six of us.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 08:51:17
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 15 2008, 07:45 AM) [snapback]460250[/snapback]
Right that's settled then. Davie McArthur in goal for the Car Travelling MSC. Don't worry about Scott he will play as well, just not as keeper.
Looking forward to that tournament.

Weegie, firstly let me apologise for not hi-jacking this thread-sometimes there are too many running simultaneously and this one seems to have slipped through the net. I must do better.

What I was wanting to know was if yesterday's match was a charity event, and if so, how much was raised and for what cause? I really hope it's OK to ask this question and apologise in advance if it's not.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 08:55:36
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jun 15 2008, 08:49 AM) [snapback]460262[/snapback]
Of course they do NewTon - what do you think toast racks are for.

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STOP IT NOW
You're taking this too far
I am very, very, very ,very angry.

Who do you think you are anyway-any more and I will weep and bleat to the big knobs.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 08:58:23
QUOTE(foobs the elder @ Jun 15 2008, 08:55 AM) [snapback]460265[/snapback]
JUMP, PLEASE JUMP
AND GIES A REST

Is there a toad on your tadger?
mortonjag 2008-06-15 09:04:58
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jun 15 2008, 08:57 AM) [snapback]460268[/snapback]
The kippers were a very good choice. I am now feeling content and replete.


laugh.gif You mean you're a fat c*nt?
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jun 15 2008, 08:57 AM) [snapback]460269[/snapback]
The big Effin polisman will be along to lift you. Watch out for that Big Effin Bee mind.

Where is Effin BTW?
mortonjag 2008-06-15 13:15:17
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Jun 15 2008, 11:59 AM) [snapback]460348[/snapback]
Andy, If the maths works out then

£20 - away season ticket
£20 - Sponsor the Renny Cup final (or is that a home game and part of the home season ticket?)
£10 - MortonJag is a good egg

That's £50 from me - will be in the paypal post as soon as MJ accepts the donation.

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And you are a very good egg Robert-if that's another £50 to the webcast I'll match it as promised which means we've achieved with John's input... £200 now. I THINK John plans to double that to £400 but maybe I've misunderstood him.

Can I say in this post to you that I've already told Andy that I want to Sponsor the first away Webcast at Dingwall. My brother and I think it's a wee bit far-we decided that as soon as RC were promoted. I also came to notice only recently that any surplus from Andy's profits goes to the Trust.

I'd given the Trust a slightly rough ride recently-that doesn't mean I don't want them to be more successful.

I don't expect an apology from Big Doc, LCM, and Nach0. I'm not sure that I'd really welcome cheap face saving from folk with such an apparently twisted view of life.

The nicest way they could gain some credibility would be by donating to this cause-in fact I now offer to match anything they donate up to a total of another £100. Guess my money's safe! dry.gif

mortonjag 2008-06-15 13:35:42
QUOTE(Toby @ Jun 15 2008, 12:05 PM) [snapback]460350[/snapback]
Is it just me that really enjoys it when someone starts giving me abuse and calling me names on here?

Always a sure sign that you're winning an argument. can always imagine the other guy sitting typing furiously with steam coming out his ears whenever they start lowering themselves to catty insults biggrin.gif .

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QUOTE(capitanus @ Jun 15 2008, 01:07 PM) [snapback]460362[/snapback]
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Lets face it, you live your life for arguments sake.

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mortonjag 2008-06-15 13:42:30
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 15 2008, 01:32 PM) [snapback]460375[/snapback]
You've already successfully made the fundraising endeavour all about you. rolleyes.gif

Anything I choose or choose not to give to Morton/the Trust/the webcast has nothing to do with you. I don't need your permission or approval, no matter how much you think that this is the case.

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If I'm not mistaken we're sitting at £400 and I doubt if Andy or any other genuine Morton fan really gives a f*ck.

I'll still match anything you care to pledge, up to £100-AND re-instate you in my mind to the level of 'good guy'!

I strongly suspect you'll still prefer to call me 'bawbag', as you have done repeatedly in the past. sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-15 13:47:07
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jun 15 2008, 12:30 PM) [snapback]460355[/snapback]
Long since given up on the notion that writing to the club achieves anything MJ. I was talking to him on Friday night and his club in Poland are putting him under increasing pressure to return home immediately and re-sign for them. I often help him warm up before games if I'm not refereeing, and I can tell you that I am exhausted by the end of it. His warm up routine before the match takes 45 minutes - non stop action 45 minutes with all aspects of his game tested - shots long range, shots short range, crosses, handling, rolls, flips, challenges - seriously impressive.

His work ethic and professionalism is outstanding. New gloves (at €100 a pair which he pays for) every four weeks. Never seen anyone set such high standards for themself.

And a decent lad to boot. Pigeon English but a great sense of fun. And like most Poles in Ireland he's picked up the important stuff well ..... "féck you, I bought last pints, you go bar". I preferred him when he had no English !

TonInDublin

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Say no more.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 13:51:25
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 15 2008, 09:13 AM) [snapback]460274[/snapback]
Hi MJ. It wasn't a charity event. It's an annual friendly game between the Gourock boys and the Dunoon boys. Was a great game and I was delighted to be asked to play this year.

Excellent-it's good to hear that the fans are getting on well together. Kind of reminds you we're all Ton supporters with only one aim-a successful senior football club in Greenock.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 14:14:48
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jun 15 2008, 01:37 PM) [snapback]460377[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif Doctor, i take it that your 'truth' has no backbone. I will take no part in any webcast that you sponsor, i will however still pay the fee for any game that i would have taken part in as i have backed the webcast service since it came into being as i do appreciate the work that Andy does for the fans that cannot make the 'live show'. What now are you going to ruin for the rest of us now doctor? and for what ? just so you get a wee bit of joy from winding people up, very sad indeed. You have had plenty of chances to back up your ramblings by now and yet you do nothing positive. This thing with the webcast is just a stunt, if you were so concerned about the webcast then maybe you should have done it when it was struggling to get people to participate and not now just to use it as a tool to spread your 'truth'.

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You're quick on the uptake-of course it's a bloody stunt- it's a stunt to raise money for the advancement of the Ton. If you choose not to donate it's up to you, but I'll match you, Nach0, and LCM up to an inclusive total of £100.

In other words, if you really support Morton and Andy's cause, and the Trust, you can take off the blinkers, accept the Jag for the 'Good Egg' he really is, and make your donation go twice as far.

Is there something wrong there?
mortonjag 2008-06-15 14:18:01
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 15 2008, 01:44 PM) [snapback]460380[/snapback]
You are attempting to use this fundraiser to lord it up over other Morton fans, and have unequivocally stated that those who don't dance to your tune will cause the club to lose out. That is a jaw-droppingly crass thing to do to fellow Morton supporters.

That doesn't seem to be the view of TiD, or Robert, or Andy himself. My offer is still open.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 14:20:30 You appear to be accusing me of lying.

Mortonjag does not lie.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 14:50:35 “Annabel Goldie may be a game old bird — she is competent within her policy-light limitations and has a St Trinian’s sense of humour — but beyond the market of her blue-rinse brigades she has little crossover appeal,”


'Game old bird indeed'-what a bloody cheek-I was at school with her big brother.

Annabel's just a wee lassie, and a nice wee lassie too. The SNP could do with more wee lassies like Annabel and less of its current shower of 'no hopers'.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 14:55:16 If they want to give the vote to sixteen year olds they should bring back National Service at fourteen to knock some sense into them first.

Forget about the lost education. Education in this country's f*cked anyway.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 15:01:52
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jun 15 2008, 11:26 AM) [snapback]460332[/snapback]
I regret not Tom. My butter of choice is Brittany with rather chunky crystals of sea salt.



She sells sea salted Brittanny butter on the sea shore
The butter she sells on the sea shore is sea salted Brittany butter


......and the Mods spread it on their hot toast and eat it with kippers and very strong tea.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 15:08:40
QUOTE(stu_1874 @ Jun 15 2008, 02:44 PM) [snapback]460403[/snapback]
dont like it. dont read it
Colkitto can express his views if he wishes, just like everyone else can.

Colkitto, Claymore C*ck, Bannock Baws, Haggis Heid, Spurtle is indeed free to express himself to his heart's content.

He pursues his deluded dreams with a gritty determination, and no small sense of humour.

He is wrong about Sir Cliff Richard being a pouffe.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 15:23:41 I don't believe the new measures will make very much difference.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 15:44:03
QUOTE(fishy_ton @ Jun 15 2008, 12:11 PM) [snapback]460352[/snapback]
I am one of Boozies apparently 'overpaid', offshore mates...and no Boozie boy I do not agrree that I get 4-5 times more than someone onshore, I definitely don't.

A few points on this.....

Scotland cannot be(nor should they really want to) be like Norway with regards oil revenues. Norway did get it right from the start with regards their oil resources. Unfortuneately for us, we had the Thatchers at tyhe Beginning of North Sea Oil and they have basically given the rights to the oil companies. They also conjured up a crazy North sea tax scheme which at the time saw Dennis and his cronies become very rich and oil companies got away with paying very little tax to the economy.

However, North Sea taxes were substantially increased a few years back....almost putting a lot of Oil companies and subsidiary's out of business, many of my friends were on the dole for a few years due to this. Not that the tax is wrong, but wasn't expected and threw a lot of the big companies plans out of whack. I don't see any oil companies leaving themselves this open to disaster again. So oil prices increased. Although in fairness anything that happens in the North Sea doesn't have a great effect on the oil price globally. North Sea Oil is a tiny spec of the world's oil resources. There may be a 100 years of oil left in the north sea.....but that oil is more difficult and expensive to produce. As well as this, an unbelievable safety culture has developed in the offshore industry world wide(this is led by the North sea) but this costs a hell of a lot of many. Increasing production costs again.

So north sea = small amount of oil. To get the big oil fields you have to look at west africa, brazil(where I currently work) and asia. All areas have their own problems when it comes to extracting the black stuff. third world countries = corruption for one, which is beyond belief sometimes, especially in West Africa....a small scale example is I have to bribe my way through most airports there. Oil companies are being shafted left right and centre by local 'governments'!
Worldwide, Oil is now found in deeper and deeper wells, we are currently working on a feild 1 mile subsea....that is costly!

Other examples of costly oil can be found all around the globe, the world's biggest oil resource just now is the sand oil found in Central Canada, but mega expensive to extract.

Then there is the oil controller's in the Middle East. These guys know that their oil is running out...they are not going to give it away! Cities and states such as Dubai, Abu Dhabi and Saudi are building and trying to diversify for a sustainable future, however in the mean time they will not be lowering the price of oil!

I could go on with this....but basically oil shouldn't be seen as the future, prices are not going to drop dramatically and we need to deal with that. Oil companies know that a dip is ahead, and are putting money aside for this now. Which hopefully will safeguard a lot of jobs in the future.

Certainly not what the SNP would have us believe.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 15:46:25
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 15 2008, 03:41 PM) [snapback]460418[/snapback]
They will make a large difference to Mr Tesco's profits. blink.gif

I suspect you may also believe in Santa Claus.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 15:48:58
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 15 2008, 02:56 PM) [snapback]460408[/snapback]
Soapy Soutar? Ohhhhhhmigawd no, you have defiled the well of my imagination.
Expect to hear from:
my lawyers.
Why thank you, I fear that whilst my economic policies would be welcome my social ones would not.

Carrot and stick's fine Mr Bam if you get the correct balance.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 15:58:26
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 15 2008, 02:55 PM) [snapback]460407[/snapback]
He's gone. laugh.gif

Good move Andy... always a bad idea to post in the heat of the moment. tongue.gif

Not necessarily, but that's generally true in my experience.

Nach0 has made it quite clear that he doesn't want to help this particular cause-would you be willing to make a donation. Belgium's already been good to us today. I'll match you up to £100, but hurry in case LCM or Big Doc has a change of heart! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-15 16:02:54
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jun 15 2008, 03:50 PM) [snapback]460424[/snapback]
Maybe hes an arsonist.

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Like Sir Cliff?
mortonjag 2008-06-15 16:14:45
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jun 15 2008, 04:06 PM) [snapback]460430[/snapback]
What exactly would i be having a change of heart about ? i have been donating to the webcast for some time now and i have stated that i will continue to donate but will not participate as long as you use it for furthering your own ego trip.

That's fine by me. Many people are suspicious of those 'buy one get one free offers'. Are you definitely out then-it just helps me to plan my next stage of the ego trip if I know as soon as possible?
mortonjag 2008-06-15 16:18:11
QUOTE(se65an @ Jun 15 2008, 04:15 PM) [snapback]460436[/snapback]
I bet you were in the scouts rolleyes.gif

With the well known motto

Never leave the boys behind
mortonjag 2008-06-15 17:53:57
QUOTE(se65an @ Jun 15 2008, 04:22 PM) [snapback]460439[/snapback]
You were never in the Scouts, you were too busy playing Doctors and Nurses, ya randy bugger rolleyes.gif

True on both counts Sean!
mortonjag 2008-06-15 17:58:08
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jun 15 2008, 04:30 PM) [snapback]460443[/snapback]
what is the project anyway?

It isn't yet- I just asked folk for ideas on how to use £100,000-I've had a lot of interesting stuff, but nothing that quite fits the bill yet!

I thought I might set up a chain of family butchers. There are several families I don't really like.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 18:01:32
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 15 2008, 04:50 PM) [snapback]460452[/snapback]
Don't forget Prince Charlie. wink.gif

An arsonist or just a red hot pouffe?
mortonjag 2008-06-15 18:10:32
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jun 15 2008, 05:45 PM) [snapback]460468[/snapback]
Who are the mods anyway ? I know that Edinton fella go the top job when Nacho went insane and handed over the power without a democratic vote but are there any others ?

It's a wee bit like Newton's three bares story

Daddy bare Mod is Tontastic the fotie flasher

Mummy bare Mod is Edinton the Festival flyer flasher

Baby bare Mod is Bryan who's just a flasher though he will strenuously deny it.

After those three we have the aspirant Mods-we won't go into their identities, but I just wish they were Mods-that would soon shut them up when they realise what the job really entails.

I hope that last bit was suitably grovelling.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 18:30:34
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 15 2008, 04:06 PM) [snapback]460429[/snapback]
Lets just be clear here. The people who take season tickets out with no intention of paying for them are committing petty fraud. Fraud is just a type of theft and therefore if you do this you are nothing but a contemptible petty thief.

The club is guilty of having insufficient measures to counter this, if what is being said is true (and I am not doubting anyone here) but not protecting yourself is not a crime. The crime is being commtted against the club, not the other way around!

Finally as for Capitanus who seems to think its OK to steal from Greenock Morton because times are hard, theft is never excusable. There might in some circumstances be some mitigation e.g. if you have no money and steal food to feed your family but stealing to watch a football match offers no such excuse and I say again if you are doing it you are nothing but a lowlife petty criminal who deserves to be locked up!!



One law for the Jews and another for the Gentiles eh!

Of course deliberately not paying for services rendered is fraud-or wait-is it payment avoidance or payment evasion?

Accountants have been trying every last dirty trick in the book from time immemorial to get their well heeled clients out of paying dues, but they would never condone tax evasion.

They play it (I'm led to believe) strictly by the rules-JUST AS 'I HATE MANPOWER' DID.

Those who have stewardship of our club, and who through a stubborn, arrogant ,and ingrained cheapskate approach fail to collect dues, are the ones depriving our club of income. Applying your logic, they are the ones who REALLY deserve to be locked up.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 18:48:33
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 15 2008, 06:07 PM) [snapback]460476[/snapback]
If you have something that would blow the lid off the club and cause it to sort out the messy aspects of it then I implore you to share it with whoever you think could help.

Therein lies the problem-and I'm getting pretty hacked off with folk questioning my judgement on what should be said to whom and when.

Why would a poster who is solely out for self aggrandisement hold back information which could reinforce his position as centre of attention?

Somebody who's willing to chuck £100 away on an ego trip (£200 if you'd cared to be involved), but who really doesn't give a f*ck about the club, would SURELY spill the beans on the old Shooglemeister!

Something doesn't fit-does it Nach0?

Shall I come clean and confess I have absolutely no information whatsoever? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Just leave this in my capable hands-old heads cannot be put on young shoulders.

mortonjag 2008-06-15 18:53:43
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jun 15 2008, 06:37 PM) [snapback]460485[/snapback]
Thought Bryan gave up his role as a Mod a while back.

You also thought Jim Thomson didn't score a cracking goal in the Scottish Cup Final!

Mind you Bryan may be a flasher and a liar! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-15 18:58:20
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Jun 15 2008, 06:54 PM) [snapback]460489[/snapback]
I have still to receive my renewal forms for next season. It is the middle of June for gods sake!!

Do not despair-ours arrived yesterday, and are gracing the wheelie bin!
mortonjag 2008-06-15 19:11:14
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 15 2008, 06:59 PM) [snapback]460491[/snapback]
Who knows, perhaps my time on the Morton General Nonsense forum is up. rolleyes.gif

I have been posting since the "Rumpus Room" on the Andy M board. It's been a great way of getting the message out to people who normally don't take an interest or know anything about their country either politically, culturally or even historically. You certainly won't read about it in the newspapers or see it on TV.
The insults or negative postings do not bother me one bit, never have never will. And on the other hand some of the banter has been good and enjoyable.

I started posting in the days when Scotland leaving the union was just a dream. Now it's becoming very much a reality (I know certain unionist posters will disagree with me on that one !) So perhaps my work here is done laugh.gif
I'll have a wee think about it..... rolleyes.gif

But don't worry, if I decide to "retire" from this forum, you can still argue with me about Morton on the other Morton Chatter forum. biggrin.gif

Spurtle, please don't go. We can't discuss the ongoing mystery of your sexuality on the other forum, and I still have lots of unanswered questions for you about the SNP- you still refuse, for example, to tell me whether or not wee Nickerless shaves face and fudd or just the former, and I'm desperate to get more inside knowledge on that threesome bash with Soapy, Bawheid, and Sir Cliff.

Anyway, if you do decide to leave, please don't blame Mortonjag-let's face it I'm responsible for all the other problems.

Mr Bam can carry the can for this one-him and that David Edwards.

mortonjag 2008-06-15 19:55:28
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jun 15 2008, 07:36 PM) [snapback]460500[/snapback]
all i am doing is discussing something 'morton' and i do not remember 'attacking' him or asking for him to be be banned. I cant even say that he annoys me, frustrates is a more fitting term. As for the need to get out more, i couldn't agree more.



QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Apr 26 2008, 06:43 PM) *
dear mortonjag, you are nothing but a worthless joke, after one of our best results for ages all you can do is criticise dougie. You make my blood boil with all this anti dougie pish that you spout and what do you do about it, f*** all apart from wasting bandwidth on this site. Hope you die soon, slowly and painfully.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 20:27:54
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jun 15 2008, 07:41 PM) [snapback]460504[/snapback]
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Oh, and Mr Thomson didn't score a cracking goal in the Cup Final.



–adverb
2. extremely; unusually good: We saw a cracking good match at the stadium.



maybe not in your opinion!
mortonjag 2008-06-15 20:43:40
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jun 15 2008, 08:33 PM) [snapback]460514[/snapback]
i want to know where you got the money!ohmy.gif
catering is a good one to get into, probably a lot of effort though

I've not been given the money-a family member has offered to back me to the tune of a maximum of £100,000.

Funnily enough we were talking about catering, and specifically about a wee chain of restaurants in St. Andrews/Perth etc. The owner has either four or five-they ARE thriving, but last year his turnover was only £1.5 million.

I realise that's still a lot of money, but it's very demanding keeping on top of that sort of enterprise.

The same family member invested £200,000 in a company called Vidicom just over a year ago. I can't confirm but apparently the investment is now worth some ten times that-but all investments are risky!

I'm just looking for something to keep me a wee bit more active, and give my fellow posters some peace!
mortonjag 2008-06-15 20:52:53
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jun 15 2008, 08:41 PM) [snapback]460518[/snapback]
Aye, and you should respect that. Goodness knows we've got to respect your opinion around here. rolleyes.gif



You don't have to respect my opinion Naitch, and many don't anyway.

I respect everybody's right to voice opinions, and reserve mine to judge them on the basis of what they state.

When a poster starts a thread, for example, which may run to two or three paragraphs, it's generally assumed that he's stating opinion.

It's different when a poster contradicts another with a one liner, where, to avoid confusion, it's always best to add 'in my opinion'-or words to that effect.

mortonjag 2008-06-15 21:03:36
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Jun 15 2008, 08:51 PM) [snapback]460522[/snapback]
But that only works when you're logged in. I used to enjoy browsing the Board without logging in and got bored/angry reading all MJ's anti-DDF rantings and other sh*te. Now I don't visit the Board that often. Shame really as I used to enjoy the banter. No point in banning him either as he'll just resurface in another guise - although I wouldn't be surprised if he already has two or more and uses these to agree/argue with himself as the occasion fits. laugh.gif laugh.gif

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I honestly don't think Mortonjag could ever exist in another form!

Oh bugger it-I might as well come clean

My other three screen names are Real Hoops, Big Doc 1874, and Le chien manquee

The four of us do create a little mischief it has to be said.

Oh, and BTW do you still think Mortonjag's not a genuine quack?
mortonjag 2008-06-15 21:32:29
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 15 2008, 09:04 PM) [snapback]460530[/snapback]
I suppose, and since you've never been guilty of the same thing I'll obviously now withdraw my request.
Alluding to it can reinforce the position just as well. I'm surprised you haven't noticed rolleyes.gif



Nach0-I've already said that I once regarded you as fairly well balanced. I thought you did an excellent job as moderator. Mortonjag has got to many folk regarding the stewardship of the club-that was deliberate. You choose to pursue an ongoing attempt to discredit me when you have no way of proving I'm wrong.

I really mean this sincerely-PLEASE stop the sniping, and false allegations. I have never previously complained to the Mods and it will be ironic if you are the first to be 'clyped on'. Edinton is getting a hard enough time from folk griping because they want my posts censored.

I honestly couldn't give a toss if you want to abuse me, and call me all the names under the sun, but you are deliberately insinuating that I am a liar, and boldly claiming that I am posting purely for self aggrandisement.

If I didn't believe that you ARE basically a decent guy I'd just let you wallow in your own sh1t like the rest of them.

The facts are that I don't lie, that I'm only interested in the welfare of Greenock Morton, that I will only release relevant information when I believe that will be helpful to the club, and that well over a dozen posters can confirm what I say.

It is possible that tomorrow I will be releasing some information which I believe should be in the public domain....and it's not that I'll have reached the 20,000 posts.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 21:42:57
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Jun 15 2008, 09:35 PM) [snapback]460545[/snapback]
Was meant to be sarcastic, yes this stuff is getting tedious. Dont know why people have it out for MJ as much as MJ has it out for Dougie but at the end of the day the forum would be dead if MJ wasnt here. He gets discussions going, fair enough they may be as long as the crusades and pointless arguments being raised but for christ sake its going too far. MJ drop the hate campaign as I dont think you noticed but no1 wants to hear about it for the 20th time on one thread, the rest of you should just chill out a bit.

Joe-I don't have any 'hate' campaign. Sometimes it looks like others hate Mortonjag.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 21:45:38
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Jun 15 2008, 09:38 PM) [snapback]460549[/snapback]
Ahh, property development my friend is the way forward. Can easily profit from it. Might be unwise to buy right now due to the desperate state of the economy but consider it, buy from auctions, set a budget and get it done asap and move on. Profit is great sometimes depending on the area/prices.

Very true but £100,000 doesn't buy much property those days.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 21:51:41
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 15 2008, 09:06 PM) [snapback]460534[/snapback]
Don't worry doc. tongue.gif

laugh.gif I would miss 'Another day-another attack on the SNP'! wink.gif

QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 15 2008, 09:25 PM) [snapback]460543[/snapback]
That's it lavvy heid, yer tea's oot. wink.gif



Lavvy heid?

Cistern cranium to you bowl brain.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 21:55:07
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 15 2008, 09:12 PM) [snapback]460539[/snapback]
You would have to ask his BF. wink.gif

Any one in particular?
mortonjag 2008-06-15 21:59:51
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Jun 15 2008, 09:48 PM) [snapback]460557[/snapback]
Im sure you can find a few flats within £100k. Never know till you have a look.

To make anything decent you'd have to take on stuff that needed a helluva refurbishment-sure the money's there if yo have the energy and contacts. I'm looking for something that's not too labour intensive, doesn't involve unsociable hours, and stimulates my mind.


I guess I'm now about to get half a dozen suggestions from the usual culprits! laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-15 22:05:33
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jun 15 2008, 08:56 PM) [snapback]460526[/snapback]
Surely any post that is made on any forum is in that poster's opinion, therefore negating the need to add that statement at the end of every post? All in my opinion, mind. rolleyes.gif tongue.gif

huh.gif

Well I might say, 'I believe Turkey won tonight'.

If you replied-'They did not', should I assume that to be an opinion?

Put like that it sounds like an 'assertion'.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 22:20:34
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 15 2008, 09:53 PM) [snapback]460559[/snapback]
I'm sure it was. However it doesn't mean that you get to act as final arbiter over every single piece of Morton discussion or criticism of the club hierarchy.
You're describing two different things here. On the subject of discrediting, you're playing fast and loose with the definition. On the second part, how could I prove anything wrong when I don't know what you're saying?

What have I said that could possibly warrant complaint?
As long as we're talking about who's lying about whom here, can I ask at which point I used the word "purely", or "solely", or similar?

Because I'm looking at my original post right now and it says this:

"On some level, maybe. You're interested primarily in self-aggrandisement"

as response to your saying that you're only interested in the viability of Greenock Morton.
So you keep saying, meanwhile you mewl with the ferocity of a sack of angry kittens when trust members don't jump to attention when you click your fingers asking for information.
I am genuinely looking forward to it.

unsure.gif I didn't really want a sermon-just an acknowledgement that I'm not 'at it'! wink.gif

QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 15 2008, 10:06 PM) [snapback]460570[/snapback]
i'll buy a season ticket for love street if he says anything of interest at all on here tomorrow, never mind something mind-blowing about morton.

laugh.gif That'll be a promise I take it. You'd be a damned sight cheaper contributing £100 to Andy M's coffers and I'll match it as promised. There- a golden opportunity to show everybody that you're not the sad frustrated cynic you appear to be.
Oh and will it be OK if I appoint Andy M as the arbiter on 'what's of interest'? tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-15 22:23:11
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jun 15 2008, 10:18 PM) [snapback]460574[/snapback]
Read what i said in the post below:
I will repeat what i said, as clearly you suffer from the same problem as Cawston, you lack the ability to understand:

I do not condone this, but i understand this.

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mortonjag 2008-06-15 23:10:30
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Jun 15 2008, 10:20 PM) [snapback]460576[/snapback]
Yes, simply because I refuse to believe that someone who purports to be a Doctor (retired or otherwise) would have the time, energy or inclination to spend so much of his time on a football messageboard spouting such rubbish/vitriol.

Are you accusing Mortonjag of masquerading as a qualified physician?
mortonjag 2008-06-15 23:19:44
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 15 2008, 10:21 PM) [snapback]460578[/snapback]
I'll show you mine if you show me yours, i.e. quit courting attention and actually post something substantial and you'll get my approval (which seems to bother you a hell of a lot more than it should.)

Can I get an apology for your misquoting me, by the way?

'Quit courting attention'-then what would be the point in posting-this is a pubic massage board, and I haven't a bloody clue what you're girning about, but if I've misquoted you it certainly wasn't deliberate and you can have as many apologies as you wish! wink.gif

QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 15 2008, 10:35 PM) [snapback]460584[/snapback]
as i said earlier, i'll have nothing to do with your tawdry self-aggrandising scheme, which takes cynicism to a level hitherto unknown on this forum.

as for your last suggestion, i'll be leaving andy out of this entirely as i would not ask someone i have respect for to have anything to do with something so monumentally dull as your patter.

....and what if Andy felt differently about my 'tawdry self aggrandising scheme'.This season ticket for the Midden's going to cost you two paws you know.

QUOTE(capitanus @ Jun 15 2008, 10:41 PM) [snapback]460587[/snapback]
Jag,

can you reveal what you're gonna reveal at midnight tonight please.

Thanks in advance.

smile.gif



I'd love to, but I'm on a promise tonight and it's been a LONG time! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-15 23:34:02
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 15 2008, 11:13 PM) [snapback]460600[/snapback]
surely mortonjag is just a persona?

Oh indeed Trumpet-a persona which is a real person for too many misguided microcephalics.

Nobody here knows the person behind that persona-possibly nobody ever will.

Indeed some folk would have much egg on their faces if they discovered how close Mortonjag has been to the Directors.

That is all.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 23:40:12
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 15 2008, 10:20 PM) [snapback]460575[/snapback]
It would require unsociable hours to begin with, and depending on how much you're willing to spend on staff it wouldn't allow you to work from home at all, but self-storage is only just taking off in this country and I think that there is tons of room for new players.

I'm in the US quite a lot and have encountered self-storage facilities, which even in the rather down-at-heel area that I stay in seem to be flourishing in a way that only dollar stores, family restaurants and payday advance services seem to. The same would apply, I am sure, in the west of Scotland.

The beauty of self-storage seems to be in the fact that 1) if you franchise it, start-up costs are low because the building is generally modular, 2) there's not actually that much customer service involved - in fact customers seem to prefer being left to their own devices and 3) here, at least, it's a relatively new market.

Either that or open a Subway franchise in a tourist/growing town, although almost all of them have them now, I believe. Subway is a license to print money once it gets rolling.

That said 100k probably isn't enough for either of these.

Many thanks- I shall do some research.
mortonjag 2008-06-15 23:51:34
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 15 2008, 11:37 PM) [snapback]460610[/snapback]
you mean you used to sit behind them? ohmy.gif

edit to add:

btw - is this the 'real' mortonjag i'm talking to, or whoever hacks his account from time to time? mellow.gif

ure tawkyng two ureselph-munky hear tie ping-gude nite

pee ess dad sendes hys luv-hee reely phansees ewe-sez phancee ah we shagge wun dai sune
mortonjag 2008-06-16 11:51:16
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jun 16 2008, 10:52 AM) [snapback]460720[/snapback]
That's all well and good but what does keeping it up his sleeve achieve? f*** all so his opinions are null and void. I've absolutely nothing against mortonag but if i'm being honest I lost a lot of respect for him after he bottled out of going to the rally.

If the "dossier" he had against Rae was put to more use in a pro-active manner I'd see the point to his crusade but as it stands it's nothing more than aimless rants on a website.

What are you so afraid of, mj? And that includes your "trusted posters" who are apparently feart to share info. If I had info on Morton being badly run I'd sing like a canary. biggrin.gif



QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jun 16 2008, 11:29 AM) [snapback]460761[/snapback]
Just so we're clear lads - all I wanted to do was clear up any confusion on whether or not MJ has a pile of stuff that ranges from the extremely interesting to the outright damning. He has. Lots of it.

It is his choice when and if he uses it. I just wanted to short circuit one of the most frequent accusations he faces - ie that he has nothing to talk about. He has.

Now if you all want to have a go about him not sharing it, then fire in. But be under no illusions that he is not talking out his arse or making up any of this stuff.

Right, my last input on this thread.

TonInDublin

Thanks John, and ONLY Mortonjag shall be the judge of what to say and when.

Some of our posters on this very thread accuse Mortonjag of arrogance and self aggrandisement.

Mortonjag regards THEIR demeanour as disrespectful, ill judged, ignorant, presumptuous, offensive, self obsessed, odious, and arrogant in the extreme.

None of those gentlemen can hold a cande to Mortonjag in the experience, wisdom, and CONFIDENTIALITY stakes.

Mortonjag, as stated often before, does not make mistakes.

The Monkey and Fing agree.
mortonjag 2008-06-16 12:17:46
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 16 2008, 02:18 AM) [snapback]460641[/snapback]
Gidday bigdoc1874,

I canny read the bubble in your profile.

Is it worth my while buying a magnifying glass ?

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P.S. Are you a proper doc like mortonjag ?

Can you help him with his penile wrinkles ?

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mortonjag 2008-06-16 12:19:26
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 16 2008, 06:40 AM) [snapback]460658[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

I got up early this morning to read the first of 'Uncle Mortonjag's bedtime stories for little kiddiewinkles' but couldn't find it.

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some possible stories ???

The 3 Bares ?

Ebony - The Black Beauty ?

Cappielow - Home of Dreams ?

The Siege of Fort Matilda ?

Doug and the Dream Stalk ?

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Just watch this space Newt!



Tonight I may tell you the new one nicked unashamedly from Disneyland and entitled Donald Ducks appearance in Mickey Mouse Show.
mortonjag 2008-06-16 12:29:42
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jun 16 2008, 12:16 PM) [snapback]460798[/snapback]
MJ you are perfectly entitled to discuss what you know with whoever you want at a time of your own choosing but if you decide to 'trail' your inside knowledge then folk will ask where's the beef. The choice of course is yours but people will draw their own conclusions about your motivation if you continue to brief selected individuals by PM while lauding your ability to maintain confidentiality.

As for the self praising, blow hard nonsense above, I wish you would give it a rest. You are a better poster than that suggests.




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Will you be offended if I call you a patronising young fud? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-16 12:50:12
AND STILL



Not a soul seems to have a clue as to the function and plans of our Director

Folk who would claim from personal experience to know the number of pigmented warts on Shoogly's arse, and who hate the Jag with a poison, have failed to produce even the merest speculation about the function of this mystery man. Why is the Jag being allowed to run riot with ridiculous questions?

I'm really beginning to wonder if this man exists. Has ANYBODY seen him or spoken with him-is he into Fudgy Wudgys or more a Buchanan's Toffee chappie. What sort of car does he drive-or does he have a personal chuffer?

The Trust said it was going to find out for its enquiring member-they MUST know the truth by now-Jim McColl's a Director (NOT the fans' representative-I HASTEN to add) but he IS a fellow director of Mr Donald-the Trust MUST know but they ain't for saying nuffin'!

Somebody must surely have a WEE bit of information-he's bloody loaded-wealthier than Mileson-is Shoogly about to spring the surprise of all surprises by signing a brand new squad with Alistair's pocket Money?

Let's face it-there's a new share issue, and it's NOT to buy players, but we're upgrading to SPL standard.


HMMMMMMMMMM!
mortonjag 2008-06-16 13:08:48
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jun 16 2008, 12:57 PM) [snapback]460823[/snapback]
I find that very little offends me - perhaps you should adopt a similar outlook smile.gif

Self assessment is often misleading-warrant those who think they can outsmart Mortonjag.
mortonjag 2008-06-16 13:18:30
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 16 2008, 12:43 PM) [snapback]460816[/snapback]
A few points.

I've tried to ignore him via the "ignore" facility but until there is a function that stops you seeing his quoted posts then it is pointless.

I've never reported any poster to the Mods and can’t imagine that I ever would.

I've tried to simply ignore him and not rise to the bait (and that’s what it is) but I’m too weak/easily offended /infuriated with his unrelenting vindictiveness -I will try harder from now on.

He flatters himself to say that I am one of his pseudo personas

Of course he's a real Doctor,............... like Dr. Pepper 's a real Doctor. rolleyes.gif

Mortonjag is a real doctor who SUPPORTS Greenock Morton -NOT some shambolic Steptoe and Son farce run by an ageing confectioner whose 'heart's in the right place'.

Mortonjag IS real hoops.
mortonjag 2008-06-16 13:39:31
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 16 2008, 01:12 PM) [snapback]460835[/snapback]
Without making any unpleasant remarks can you honestly tell us that you think Douglas Rae is misusing Morton funds or doing something untoward and to damage the club?

Also, you seem incredibly aggrieved that you don't know what Mr Donald's role is within the club but do you think that fans of clubs like Livi, Thistle and Dundee are fully aware of every going on within their club’s boardrooms?

If you really have evidence for anything that might be illegal or even to the detriment of Morton then please stop boasting that you have this information and chastising those that don’t and act upon it. Report it to any relevant authority that you feel may be able to help.

Please, no snide comments when you reply.

You know perfectly well that I believe almost everything the Chairman does those days is 'to the detriment of the club'.

This thread is NOT about the Chairman-it's about Alistair Donald. Given the lack of information from the usual 'sources' I'd not be in the slightest surprised if he's disappeared in disgust. Who could blame him?

Oh and I just happened to notice Donkey Dave peeping over the fence-hi Dave-will you be first to congratulate the Jag on his 20,000th post? tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-16 14:25:44
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 16 2008, 02:18 PM) [snapback]460856[/snapback]
Congrats to Mortonjag on the 20,000 post. laugh.gif


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QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 16 2008, 02:19 PM) [snapback]460857[/snapback]
So I'm not getting an answer then? blink.gif

Did you ASK a question about Alistair Donald?
mortonjag 2008-06-16 14:36:56
QUOTE(OLDTON @ Jun 16 2008, 02:27 PM) [snapback]460864[/snapback]
If innes does sign then ot would be gr8 news.

Our defence may be as good as our attack this year.

WAKEY WAKEY

It will be a good signing if its true-it's beginning to look like Goals for 29 Goals against 12

I'd like to see some attractive football next season! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-16 14:54:15
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 16 2008, 02:40 PM) [snapback]460870[/snapback]
That's utterly pathetic !

I thought the intention was to keep this civilised. I'm constantly accused of hijacking threads, and if you don't mind I'd like to keep this one on topic. What do you think of Alistair Donald's contribution so far?

The club have now had him on Board for six months, and he's a very, very wealthy man. You have always seemed closer to the coal face than me-or perhaps I should say that every time I have made an allegation you have 'rubbished' it on the basis of your superior knowledge.

Can you shed any light on the subject of my dedicated thread?
mortonjag 2008-06-16 15:31:50
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jun 16 2008, 03:00 PM) [snapback]460877[/snapback]
MJ,

You clearly are in possesion of some significant information regarding the running of and possibly future of the club we all support. Knowledge is power and with power comes responsibility. I therefore put it to you that you are currently acting in a very irresponsible way, because as far as i can see you are not doing anything constructive with this information to try and change things for the better. All you are in fact doing is spouting a lot of heresay and conjecture (and it will remain so until it is backed up with concrete facts).

I would even go so far as to say that by failing to act upon or at least make public the information you have, you have now become an accomplice in whatever sinister stuff is allegedly going on behind the scenes at Cappielow. In the eyes of the law, knowing a crime is being commited and failing to act upon this is just as bad as taking part in the crime. So too, if it transpires that our club has been damaged by the actions of the Chairman (actions which you claim to have intimate knowledge of), and you have failed to act on this information, you will be seen in the eyes of the fans as someone who could have done something to stop it, but instead chose to stay silent and let things continue to go downhill.

If you are so against DDFR,
then why are you protecting him by surpressing information on his supposed mismanagement of the club.

This position seems to be a complete contradiction, which makes me wonder what your motivations are.

There's a lot of conjecture in there my old friend and adversary. If I KNEW that any 'crime' had been committed, I'd have 'phoned the Polis' All I said was that I wouldn't be surprised if Mr Donald had buggered off in disgust. Folk are ALWAYS putting words into my mouth. He 's certainly been 'awful' quiet, and failed to show up at the recent EGM, which I thought would have been his line of business.

QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 16 2008, 03:18 PM) [snapback]460884[/snapback]
If you would like to keep this on topic as you say, then why not answer my question? Do you have information that Douglas Rae or Alistair Donald or any member of the board are misusing Morton's money or deliberately working to the detriment of Morton FC?

You ask, what do I think of Alistair Donald's contribution so far? I have no opinion as I do not know what his contributions have so far been. I could of course be wrong but without the knowledge of such enlightened people as yourself and your "pm club" I have no other reason to believe that they have been anything other than positive and helpful.

He may be wealthy but that does not mean he will necessarily invest that wealth in the club. It does suggest though that in accumulating that wealth he will have gained a degree of knowledge and wisdom that could be beneficial to Morton and that there for is the purpose of his involvement.

If you know different please tell.

My 'pm club'-good gracious-only a very short time ago I was a lone wolf regularly spouting tedious p1sh and drivel, and now I'm some bloody celebrity with his own 'pm club'.

If you want to join my 'pm club', pm me. I'm ALWAYS gracious.

I gather that you know as much about Mr Donald as Cappie does, and he's not in my pm club so far.
mortonjag 2008-06-16 15:42:41
QUOTE(Capuan @ Jun 16 2008, 03:27 PM) [snapback]460890[/snapback]
ok ive been away for the last week - any chance someone could briefly fil me in with whats goin on here?

Has mortonjag found some sort of 'dodgy dossier' left on a train at fort matilda??

No! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-16 15:52:45
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jun 16 2008, 03:40 PM) [snapback]460895[/snapback]
i think you know that i was not suggesting that there is criminal activity at Cappielow, what i was saying was that according to you something bad is going on - something that isnt good for the club. If i recieved information on such goings on, i would feel compelled to act upon it. By failing to do so, you are arguably just as bad as the Chairman who you are criticising.

Is that what I've said Greacen-stop putting words into my mouth-I just think it is mighty SUSPICIOUS that a man of Donald's wealth can be on the board for six months, and apart from a Tilly scrap-I don't even believe there was anything on GMFC-we know NOTHING about the guy. He might as well not be there!

QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 16 2008, 03:44 PM) [snapback]460898[/snapback]
Have I missed something. What crime was committed? Is Mr Donald the main witness or did he commit the said crime, alledgedely? What part did DDFR have in this? I am confused huh.gif unsure.gif cool.gif
Why does it only meet in the afternoon? Is it a secret society or something? What happens if they meet in the dark?

Weegie there's no need to get all dramatic and you know fine well what's meant by my 'pm club'.

There is a hard core of jealous little boys whose little brown Shooglyphile noses are in a communal poke because they are not privy to information which is absolutely none of their business. Indeed, one wonders if they'd have the wit to digest it! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-16 16:16:41
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jun 16 2008, 04:02 PM) [snapback]460906[/snapback]
Sorry MJ - putting words in your mouth was not my intention. Posts from yourself and others on this (and several other) threads, had lead me to believe that you were in posession of a large amount of damning information regarding the running of our club. I summed this up with the statement "something bad is going on". Was i mistaken in thinking that you have information on mismanagement of the club, or do you just not see mismanagement of the club as a bad thing?

edit to add - i agree that it is strange that we have not heard more about Mr Donalds role at the club, and i am also very curious to see how you think that the mystery surrounding him might fit in with said mismanagement

Well let's put it like this-we know that Arfur and Ian Brown resigned from the Board, and we know from the Tilly (WAS IT IN GMFC.net?)that Mr Donald became a director in January.

That leaves four directors-Steptoe and son, Jim McColl, and the ubiquitous Mr Donald.

I use the word 'ubiquitous' because I believe it's appropriate. Folk keep saying I have NO RIGHT to ask what his function is-on the contrary I believe that the public not only have a right to know about Directors of Limited Companies in which they have an interest, but indeed should surely be able to check in some way or another if all is above board. I have tried to check here for a couple of weeks. The Trust-the biggest shareholder apart from the Shoogly show either doesn't have a clue (bizarre to say the least) or something's amiss.

Let's face it, all we need is a reassuring statement from somebody in the know-something along the lines of-'I have spoken with Mr Donald who concedes that he prefers to play things low key, but assures me he is still very much involved behind the scenes'-that kind of thing would be immensely reassuring, and given the huge number of posters whom seem to know a huge amount about the Shoogly Show, it's hardly asking for the Moon. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-16 16:24:19
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 16 2008, 04:12 PM) [snapback]460909[/snapback]
mellow.gif

So were you lying when you said you had inside information about the running of the club that showed the Chairman in a bad light?

Are you now saying that TID and Midtons are liars as well as they both say that you hold some important information that would interest and enlighten everyone?

I give up with you Dr.Newal - I can't be bothered discussing this with someone who continually claims the higher intellect and knowledge then reverts back to acting like a spoiled child every time he has his reasoning questioned.

That's perfectly fine by me, Mr Connell.

If I claimed to have inside information which shows Mr Rae up badly, why does that have to relate to Mr Donald-the subject of this thread, as I have now reminded you for the third time. Folk who require multiple reminders do strike me as having limited intellect.

We don't really have to fall out over my entirely reasonable concerns, and I certainly don't see the need for you to resort to attempting to divulge my identity on a pubic massage board, though I find it disturbing that you are unable to spell my surname correctly.
mortonjag 2008-06-16 16:32:56
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 16 2008, 04:17 PM) [snapback]460911[/snapback]
Your tantrum against the trust was pretty much the same thing, only around ten times less dignified.

Your personal attacks become more pathetic and focussed by the minute ex Mod. There was indeed no tantrum. Fortunately my 'pm club' is there to reassure me when I am repeatedly subjected to your utterly self indulgent sniping. YOUR attempts at point scoring and self aggrandisement are becoming embarrassing. That is THEIR opinion.

What do you think of Mr Donald? You always claim to have the best interests of the club at heart-have you followed his progress? Can you enlighten me at all on his plans.

Indeed WHAT is your agenda? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-16 16:46:26
QUOTE(irvineTON @ Jun 16 2008, 04:21 PM) [snapback]460912[/snapback]
This has to be some of the biggest drivel I have read on this board (And I have read a hell of a lot!! ohmy.gif )

That's a very helpful comment in our quest for the truth!

QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jun 16 2008, 04:28 PM) [snapback]460915[/snapback]
No - I cannot be the first as Midtons has beaten me again! For what it is worth, well done on the 20K + posts - a feat that we lesser mortals can only dream about. Your indefatigability know no bounds etc. etc. etc.

You are gracious as ever Dave-I expect you'l claim you know hee haw as usual!

QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jun 16 2008, 04:36 PM) [snapback]460918[/snapback]
do you think that there is a link between these events?
maybe i am misunderstanding the meaning of the word ubiquitous, but surely the point which you are making is that Mr Donald has not come out and said anything, didnt attend the EGM, and there have been no statements on his role or actions to date. Would this not in fact make him the opposite of ubiquitous (elusive?)
i agree that would be nice.

By ubiquitous I was alluding to the concept of 'everywhere and nowhere'-Arfur and Ian Brown were real live people-OK they maybe didn't do much but they were available to approach should any fan have wished a chat. Mr Donald just doesn't seem to exist either in person, or by way of being quoted on GMFC or in the newspapers. It seems he might as well be a figment of the imagination.

Something doesn't quite fit.
mortonjag 2008-06-16 16:50:03
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 16 2008, 04:37 PM) [snapback]460919[/snapback]
Sorry, you must have been posting that as I was writing my post. Tongue taking out of cheek now tongue.gif
Dear oh dear, don't tell me you have lost your funny bone Dr Jag.

Not really Weegie-I just get upset when folk torment me-I'm above that sort of behaviour as you know.

QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 16 2008, 04:39 PM) [snapback]460921[/snapback]
I'll try to sleep tonight regardless rolleyes.gif

At this exact moment I don't know what to think. I'm not especially bothered that he hasn't come out with any sort of statement with his appointment but I do wonder why he didn't show more of an interest in the EGM.
When was this "always?"

I'm afraid I don't know as much about this as I'd like.
Seeing Morton survive, and seeing Morton prosper, in that order.

That's an interesting term.
mortonjag 2008-06-16 16:53:11
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 16 2008, 04:50 PM) [snapback]460926[/snapback]
I've not said he has, what I said was that I believe he has. wink.gif

....but do you believe in Mr Donald?
mortonjag 2008-06-16 16:58:41
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 16 2008, 04:54 PM) [snapback]460928[/snapback]
Mr Donald may as well be a figment of my imagination for all I know about him. unsure.gif

EXACTLY how I feel-it might as well all be a fairy story. He's never put in an appearance-never made a comment except that Chris Fitzgerald stuff in the Tilly, and clearly hasn't spent a penny on the club where Auld Shoogly appears to be shuffling along as before with his boy child as Co-director.

If he's no use on the Board we might be better off with somebody else.
mortonjag 2008-06-16 17:04:02
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 16 2008, 04:55 PM) [snapback]460929[/snapback]
What, appointment?

Well, that's what it is, isn't it? And it's hardly a relevation... right?

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QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jun 16 2008, 04:56 PM) [snapback]460931[/snapback]
I just had a look at Mortons entry on companies house - interestingly, the resignations of Ian Brown and Arthur Montford were filed, but the appointment of Alistair Donald was not. Isnt this a bit strange?

edit to add - heres the link

companies house


Surely you're not suggesting that Mr Donald is NOT a director of our club! unsure.gif unsure.gif unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-16 17:15:36
QUOTE(Lancashire Hot Pot @ Jun 16 2008, 05:01 PM) [snapback]460934[/snapback]
I met Mr Donald at Cappielow for a taped interview. A tape I still have. Mr Donald even contacted me after the article was published to say he was happy with it. Just thought I'd say like.

Have you seen or spoken with him since?

QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jun 16 2008, 05:01 PM) [snapback]460935[/snapback]
what do you mean? He was appointed as a director several months ago - well before Brown and Montford resigned... am i missing something?

I don't know much about Companies House. If Morton got a new Director would they not have to tell Companies House?
mortonjag 2008-06-16 17:18:33
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 16 2008, 05:06 PM) [snapback]460937[/snapback]
Does the fact that you didn't post it mean that LCM wins his bet? biggrin.gif

LCM is of no interest to me when we're talking about serious stuff-like yourself he is more interested in self aggrandisement by attempting to put Mortonjag down.

And I DID start the thread!
mortonjag 2008-06-16 17:25:22
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jun 16 2008, 05:07 PM) [snapback]460938[/snapback]
to be honest i do not know enough about company legislsation to sayfor sure. i would however have assumed that as a public company the club would be duty bound to file any new appointments to the board, so unless i am missing something, it looks like maybe Mr Donald is not a director!

What do you think?

I guess it would depend on what 'being a Director' entails. I thought there were strict regulations about informing of changes in Board details, with time limits, penalties for late information, and even prosecution for deliberately evading responsibility-that's how it's always been with my son's companies-but there again, I'm a mere physician, not privy to the fine details of high finance. It's something which can surely be checked I'd imagine.

QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 16 2008, 05:15 PM) [snapback]460943[/snapback]
Please accept my apologies for not spelling your name correctly.
As for me divulging your identity on a public message board I'm surprised that a man of your intellect needs reminding that it was you yourself who posted your full name and address on a thread not more than a few months ago. You also stated that you were the brother of a teacher at PGHS and I believe you eventually named him. You also like to remind us all that Mortonjag is a persona that you use for your convenience (hence your irritating use of the third person ) and as you pick and chose when to use it and when to be "yourself" I thought I would direct my post at the less infuriating version of you. It was a mistake and if I have offended you and jeopardised your privacy than again I apologise. I'd guess however, that nearly everyone on this board knows your real first and surname as well as your profession, so don't play on the hard done to too much as it really doesn’t sit well with either of you. wink.gif

As I said, I've given up asking what it is you claim to know and who it is that you blame. I stated in my earlier post that my conjecture was due to your method of drip feeding the forum with trinkets of half truths and misleading accusations. I'm sorry if I have mistaken the Mr. Donald thread to be related to the I know something you don’t thread.

An easy mistake to make in the circumstances though.

unsure.gif unsure.gif unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-16 17:41:31
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jun 16 2008, 04:46 PM) [snapback]460923[/snapback]
Beat me to it lol

Used to sit behind them but never raised any concerns to there face as well as not attending the Q & A to raise the issues he bores us all on here with

Oh indeed young man-the possibility that the Club has acted illegally over Alistair Donald is extremely boring to those whose agenda is to undermine Mortonjag. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-16 17:51:26 It seems the 'truth' about Mr Donald may be about to emerge, thanks to the astuteness of Greacen 2000.

It just goes to show that the truth is always worth pursuing-especially when it affects the future of our football club.
mortonjag 2008-06-16 18:16:03
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jun 16 2008, 05:57 PM) [snapback]460959[/snapback]
So basically your son has put you in as company secretary and you are out of your depth with no knowledge of your roles and responsibilities

OR

perish the thought, you are "at it" with your feigning of ignorance.

As you correctly stated previously, I have no knowledge of what Mr Donald is about but did not want to duck the question.



I think you misunderstood me Dave-I'm fully aware of the regulations for normal Limited Companies-but wondered if maybe Football Clubs were treated differently in the sense that they represent a community-so I wondered if maybe the regulations were more lax, and 'A Director' meant something different from the very clearly defined legal meaning.

If Greenock Morton Football Club are liable to the same rules under the Companies Acts as normal Limited Companies, they have fourteen days in which to notify Companies House of any change in the composition of the Board.

I've now been on line to Companies House, and it's as clear as day that in Law, (unless there's a different rule for football clubs), Alistair Donald IS NOT A DIRECTOR OF GREENOCK MORTON, NOR HAS HE EVER BEEN.

That is truly disturbing information-could this be why it's taken so long to find any answers about him. If he's NOT a director, why did Jim McColl not know about it as the representative of the Club's second biggest shareholder, and if he's NOT a director, why was David Irons talking about Alistair Donald and the Board after the last game of the season?


Questions require to be answered!
mortonjag 2008-06-16 18:30:47
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 16 2008, 06:18 PM) [snapback]460969[/snapback]
I don't think bringing Irons into it is particularly fair, as I doubt he knows anymore than the layman.

What does need to be asked is why Donald himself referred to himself as being on the board when he cannot possible have been without his own signature.

In any case, kudos to Greacen2000 for revealing this to Morton fans - at least someone still believes in open communication.

Bringing Irons into WHAT?

Questions have still to be answered before we all jump to conclusions. I merely commented that David Irons was specifically talking about Alistair Donald and the Board separately from 'The Chairman and his Family' in the Radio Scotand interview afer the Partick game.

I'm not quite sure what you mean by the last bit though.

mortonjag 2008-06-16 18:42:56
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 16 2008, 06:25 PM) [snapback]460974[/snapback]
Your understanding is wrong in every single way. Read the board.

NO son-don't forget the 'PC club'-port-ton is talking about something entirely different from the Alistair Donald situation. It's dangerous to jump to conclusions-especialy when Mortonjag's PC club's been in action, and there are many, many things which will only be revealed when it seems correct for the good of the club.

Could it be that Greacen is a member of that select group of confidantes too?

Could it be that Mortonjag was behind all the investigative journalism?

Could it be that Mortonjag was in turn 'tipped off' by somebody else in the 'PC Club'.

Those are things only members of Mortonjag's PC club will ever know.

Not that you'd want to be part of some underground resistance movement run purely for the self aggrandisement of a demented old fud.
mortonjag 2008-06-16 18:58:41
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 16 2008, 06:37 PM) [snapback]460984[/snapback]
The fact that Alistair Donald is being paraded as a director even though he isn't (yet?) registered as one.

Yeah, we wouldn't want anyone jumping to conclusions about things like "prosecution for deliberately evading responsibility."

That would be terrible.
I'm taking a shot in the dark here, but I think you've known this for ages but preferred to play the "I know something you don't know" game rather than post it. I don't think you're really that bothered about it, either, and (not for the first time) it'll be left for others to ask the questions, despite your insistence that you're the voice for the voiceless.

Indeed you are sonny boy, and the sooner you stop fantasising about Mortonjags 'self aggrandisement' and take a long hard look in the mirror, the sooner Mortonjag's 'PC club' will stop having to change their knickers every ten minutes.
mortonjag 2008-06-16 19:02:21
QUOTE(Youngsa @ Jun 16 2008, 06:50 PM) [snapback]460997[/snapback]
Its been a few years since my last Company and Business Law classes but I'm sure someone will have the answer at their fingertips

Can Alistair Donald be co-opted on to the board in a Business Advisor type capacity without being a director of the company and without informing Companies House? unsure.gif

Why all the publicity about him being a Director (in January) followed by a change in details on the match day programme where he is clearly listed as one of four Directors?
mortonjag 2008-06-16 19:04:17
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jun 16 2008, 06:59 PM) [snapback]461005[/snapback]
Indeed you are sonny boy, and the sooner you stop fantasising about Mortonjags 'self aggrandisement' and take a long hard look in the mirror, the sooner Mortonjag's 'PC club' will stop having to change their knickers every ten minutes. laugh.gif

smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-16 19:07:00
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 16 2008, 07:03 PM) [snapback]461011[/snapback]
You only just found it out?



AYE
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mortonjag 2008-06-16 19:21:27
QUOTE(Youngsa @ Jun 16 2008, 07:08 PM) [snapback]461020[/snapback]
No idea mate. Just a case of floating possible solutions to obvious discrepancies. Maybe he wanted payment in millions but was only offered fudgy wudgy wink.gif

laugh.gif


QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 16 2008, 07:11 PM) [snapback]461024[/snapback]
You should probably thank Greacen2000 for bringing it to your attention, then. It's only polite biggrin.gif

You are still trying to second guess the issue and it's not good for you. The mortonjag PM Group does not discus business with third parties. Greacen is a good chap and a fine poet too.
mortonjag 2008-06-16 19:35:14
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 16 2008, 07:28 PM) [snapback]461036[/snapback]
OK, without breaching confidentiality among the group (a matter that's very dear to your heart), is there an approximate date that you'll be disclosing the identity of any people who may - or may not - be taking up shares over the coming days and weeks?

Just so I can pencil it into my diary biggrin.gif

My son would be angry if I discussed business on a pubic massage board.
mortonjag 2008-06-16 19:43:07
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 16 2008, 05:55 PM) [snapback]460957[/snapback]
An issue that you didn't raise, incidentally. Someone else had to because you wouldn't.

In any case, I don't know why he's not signed on, but before you get moist at the idea of DDF and Alistair doing hard time you might want to phone your son and ask what happens in situations like these (i.e. nothing at all.)



The Mortonjag PM club is running out of knickers-please stop.

If you are suggesting that successful prosecutions are not made for infringing company law you are mistaken.

Not that I'd want to see Auld Shoogly in jail.


I've always had a soft spot for convicted criminals.
mortonjag 2008-06-16 19:57:30
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 16 2008, 07:37 PM) [snapback]461049[/snapback]
the sharp-eyed amongst you will have noticed that while arthur montford's termination of appointment occurred on 10/12/2007, the notification to companies house was dated 14/5/2008, and the companies house index of this report is dated 5/6/2008.

in other words, if you'd checked with companies house a mere fortnight ago, you'd have concluded that arthur was still a director ohmy.gif rolleyes.gif tongue.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


Aye very good Trumpet, and you'll be telling us next that Mr Donald sent his forms in January and is patiently waiting till some wee lassie in Companies House stops powdering her f*nny and files them!
mortonjag 2008-06-16 20:10:23
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 16 2008, 08:03 PM) [snapback]461064[/snapback]
i won't smile.gif

Good. Now if I'm not mistaken you're the chappie who kept trying to muffle me on this issue.

I have suspected for a long time that you are Alistair Donald and took a monstrous huff when Shoogly wanted £25,000,000 for his cowboy outfit.

There's no need to deny it.

Everybody believes Mortonjag now.
mortonjag 2008-06-16 20:23:20
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 16 2008, 07:29 PM) [snapback]461037[/snapback]
Yes. Anyone can attend board meetings but only directors can vote. It is possible that Morton's Memo and Articles have a share qualification for directors and it could be the case that Mr Donald has had to wait for the current share issue in order to acquire his shares.

That is a matter for the the board and the shareholders. Its not something to be answered on a fans message board.

It is also possible that a pig may fly!

The club publicised his appointment as a 'Director' in January.

He's been listed in the match programme as a 'Director' ever since.

I'd love to believe he's still involved with our club-he is very wealthy and as you said a respected businessman (well I think you said respectable) but I digress.

Companies House exists for a purpose of which you, more than most of us, are very well aware, and five months down the line the public information (on which decisions regarding the club including the current share issue depend) demonstrates quite clearly that Greenock Morton Football Club has three Directors-two Raes and Jim McColl.

That is utterly misleading if Mr Donald IS still a Director, and information regularly disseminated by the Club has been utterly misleading if he is not.

You cannot have it both ways. You were very quick to point out to my friend Big Doc 1874 that the courts don't look between the lines.

So far as I can see, Alistair Donald is not legally a Director of Morton Football club.
mortonjag 2008-06-16 20:25:51
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jun 16 2008, 08:18 PM) [snapback]461072[/snapback]
Victor Meldrew does NOT believe it!

And neither do I! tongue.gif

What's Shoogly saying about all this then-it does look a bit like the usual shambles Dave. Did he give the stuff to JM to drop in at Companies House or something? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-16 20:30:48
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 16 2008, 08:07 PM) [snapback]461066[/snapback]
You better tell me what you know Jag or I'll trail ye.

It was big Gillian in the Boardroom with a brick that was meant to go in the wall and bore the legend 'Mortonjag loves Shoogly xxx'.

It is being paid for by standing order.
mortonjag 2008-06-16 20:38:21
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 16 2008, 08:10 PM) [snapback]461067[/snapback]
You have to control the rage Nacho. Keep it inside, hide it away, then in 9 years and 3 months you can go mental in the Oak Mall with a chainsaw.

He wont go to jail.




There should be an absolute bar against prosecuting children under the age of 12. Although opinion on consultation was divided, the majority of those responding favoured a bar. A bar at this age would be consistent with the requirements of the European Convention of Human Rights. 12 is also the age at which a child is presumed to have sufficient maturity and understanding for many civil law purposes, including participating in civil court proceedings.
mortonjag 2008-06-16 20:41:58
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Jun 16 2008, 07:56 PM) [snapback]461060[/snapback]
theres a doctor in Govanhill Health Centre, Dr Sharp.. who has a photie of an auld morton side above his desk in the office.... once had a conversation aboot the ton with him whilst he examined my genitals.. talking about morton and getting yer genitals rubbed at the same time... hmm.
he also has a laptop on his desk that he kids on he is looking at and typing into.....

please tell me that wasnt you! laugh.gif

cannae be many mare docs that are ton fans tongue.gif

I retired shortly after that-whatever happened to that gangrenous left testicle?
mortonjag 2008-06-16 20:47:04
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jun 16 2008, 08:31 PM) [snapback]461083[/snapback]
Why don't you ask him yourself? As the boards resident know it all perhaps you could even answer the question yerself...

Nope-my term of office elapsed, and Nach0 took over.

As Shoogly's spy, you must have SOME view on the matter!

QUOTE(stuart @ Jun 16 2008, 08:40 PM) [snapback]461092[/snapback]
He could ask it at the next question and answer session.


What a novel idea Stuart-go straight to the top of the class. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-16 20:50:59
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jun 16 2008, 08:46 PM) [snapback]461100[/snapback]
I think the best way to try and sort all this stuff out is to actually report the club to the relevant agencies and see what comes from that. Anyway doctor, if you really are a doctor wink.gif , whats the recovery time for a sheared metacarspal (the pinkie one) why didn't they put a plaster on it, and why is it still sore as f**k after 6 weeks ?

You will need to stop punching the wall in rage.
mortonjag 2008-06-16 20:53:36
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 16 2008, 08:37 PM) [snapback]461087[/snapback]
You're lucky Doc, I was just looking out the inflatable hammer I was gonna use to do you in.

Inflatable hammer-aye right-stick it in yer blow up doll.
mortonjag 2008-06-16 20:57:53
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jun 16 2008, 08:50 PM) [snapback]461104[/snapback]
blink.gif rolleyes.gif laugh.gif

As if your ego didn't require massaging even more, you even have your own fan club.

BTW, I do agree with some (nay, most) of what you've been saying. wink.gif



You are welcome to massage my ego whenever you choose with prior consent from port-ton and Deego.
mortonjag 2008-06-16 21:05:53
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 16 2008, 08:58 PM) [snapback]461114[/snapback]
can anyone join tongue.gif

Only if you hate Nach0, love Shoogly but think he's misguided, and can supply the secret password.



It's actually snottercloth, but don't tell anyone else.
mortonjag 2008-06-16 21:14:38
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 16 2008, 09:02 PM) [snapback]461116[/snapback]
Haven't really been on much over the last few days and I am just taking in the news about AD not registered at Company house ? Is that why there is a share issue ? Obviously if Mr Donald was not involved would this affect the interest in the share issue ?

It looks like this Chris.

For some reason AD has NEVER existed as a Morton Director at Companies House, but has always (since January) been quoted as a 'director'-Tilly, match programmes, quotes from DI etc.

If I was going to buy shares I'd want to know the profile of the company-that's what Companies House is for, among other things. If I saw that a struggling provincial football club had just taken on a director worth almost 100 million I'd be thinking-'get in there'.

But he's no there! sad.gif

My gut feeling is that he f*cked off in disgust.

mortonjag 2008-06-16 21:23:13
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 16 2008, 09:06 PM) [snapback]461120[/snapback]
so thats a no then sad.gif

I lied-the only pre-requisite is that you p.m. me with some info re Shoogly's incompetence. It doesn't have to be true-I'll deal with that bit-and you're a fully fledged member! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-16 21:31:42
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jun 16 2008, 09:12 PM) [snapback]461124[/snapback]
nice to see your paranoia is still holding laugh.gif laugh.gif
Why?

It is perfectly possible that I have no opinion on this matter.

It is also perfectly possible that I could not care if the admin has been completed for a new director,or not.

What does intrigue me is why you have expended so much time and effort to reach this stage? When is your Q and A session?

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


'And why did you amputate the wrong leg Doctor'?

'The admin hadn't been completed so I felt entitled to assume just exactly what I pleased'.


Nothing short of criminal that answer Tailbearer, especially with this ongoing share issue. Are you trying to tell us Donald IS a director, when Companies House is saying he's not-it's no joking matter.

I've got all the printouts I require, and don't you worry, I'll be double checking with them first thing tomorrow, so if you want to get the stuff in the letterbox you'd better get that ass in gear pronto.

I'm speaking metaphorically of course-well some of it is!
mortonjag 2008-06-16 21:35:07 Fraid my choice isn't listed Chris, but I still love the Ton!
mortonjag 2008-06-16 21:38:57
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 16 2008, 09:15 PM) [snapback]461128[/snapback]
No.

pouffe
mortonjag 2008-06-16 21:45:17
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jun 16 2008, 09:19 PM) [snapback]461131[/snapback]
i cant say that i have ever punched a wall in rage, just seems to be taking a while to get sorted. Thanks for the advice anyway.

I thought you were just being mad as usual. If they've stabilised it properly it'll heal in its own good time-small bone fractures are notoriously difficult to predict. It's the same with the pain-varies quite a lot from one patient to another. A stookie doesn't help because the bone is 'fixed' in tissue and the adjoining bones help to add rigidity.
mortonjag 2008-06-16 22:54:13
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 16 2008, 10:24 PM) [snapback]461191[/snapback]
Fill your boots old timer.

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mortonjag 2008-06-16 23:02:03
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jun 16 2008, 10:05 PM) [snapback]461172[/snapback]
stabilized it !!! if that means that it now points in a completely different direction then yes its stabilized blink.gif


laugh.gif You didn't use wee Nickerlesses all new NHS which 'meets patient demand' perchance?
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 16 2008, 10:09 PM) [snapback]461178[/snapback]
Nothing personal...but this adopting of spelling things in the American way is really starting to irritate me, the amount of UK academic journals and textbooks that do this now is simply beyond belief!

Your grammar, spelling, and syntax are nothing short of atrocious-did you really get a degree from a proper university?
mortonjag 2008-06-16 23:06:18
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jun 16 2008, 10:44 PM) [snapback]461211[/snapback]
An inept, unprofessional, incompetent shambles is what it is.

Understatement of the week.
mortonjag 2008-06-16 23:09:19
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 16 2008, 09:54 PM) [snapback]461160[/snapback]
today's painful saga from mentaljag is the online equivalent of dougie with his microphone in the centre circle. initial groaning followed by intense irritation finished off with near catatonia.

Enjoy Love St.
mortonjag 2008-06-16 23:14:23
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 16 2008, 07:05 PM) [snapback]461016[/snapback]
Accountants apply the tax law to minimise their clients tax exposure. That's called playing by the rules. They don't write the tax legislation, merely apply it. Tax evasion is theft and any accountant caught doing that would get slung out the brownies.

I am not condoning the apparently lax approach the club has to this although I would interested in what the true extent of the problem is. You are not, however, comparing apples with apples here. What is being discussed on this thread are people who apparently set out to deliberately obtain a season ticket by fraudulent deception i.e. steal it.

That's theft and it is insulting to have my profession placed in the same box, especially by someone who shares the usual endearing doctor traits of arrogance and never being able to admit when they are wrong especially when they don't know enough about a particular subject to pontificate on it!

Your gout is clearly playing up again. It's ignorant to tar all members of any profession with the same brush Mr Elliot.

.....and Mortonjag never makes mistakes as you very well know.
mortonjag 2008-06-16 23:20:40
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 16 2008, 10:15 PM) [snapback]461181[/snapback]
so the club are being cheapskate by not charging people money? i would call that incompetence, but don't let me ruin your fun with the english language.

if you were chocolate you'd lick yourself all over and get back on the plate.

Cheapskate-paying peanuts with the inevitable result, and don't dare compare your pathetic massacre of our native tongue with my 'honed to perfection' mastery.

Enjoy Love Street.
mortonjag 2008-06-17 05:27:35
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jun 17 2008, 12:58 AM) [snapback]461276[/snapback]
Come come! You say no hard feelings the other day, then post this p1sh, Doctor? Come on, I wasn't being selfish, and views being aired back this up - I asked for you to be "reigned in" for the good of this messageboard. You seem to be miffing more people than you don't.
Merely a warning shot. And hell, it worked - for about two days!
MortonJag makes some great points, is funny a lot of the time and can be a good read.

He just repeats it all in 562 other posts, within half an hour. The same stuff.....and if you disagree or suggest you've heard it before, then you get mock indignation from him and his snivelling sycophants.

If you want this board going down the sh1tter, it's your call.
God tell me about it - this guy called me a p***k once!


We had exactly the same stuff from Donga about a month ago, and I think it's outrageous that posters start calling the Mods in question simply because their own selfish requests are not met




That's exactly what I said. I have no hard feeling Donga-that in no way alters my opinion on the issue!

Furthermore this recent post merely alluded to you in terms of wanting censorship applied. It was , as I'm sure you know, directed at a hard core of posters who regularly clype to the Mods only as and when their underhand, devious, abusive, and often offensive attacks on this poster are unsuccessful.

You have never-well I don't believe you have-tried to undermine my honesty and motives. In that respect I rate you well above those verminous trollops.

One final point-don't kid yourself about general feeling with a few selected quotes-I couldn't get away from my computer yesterday for dealing with pm's.

You are one of the good guys. Why not become a member of the Mortonjag PM club? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-17 05:36:35
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 16 2008, 10:05 PM) [snapback]461171[/snapback]
can anyone answer my simple questions please ?

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

They don't do facts Newt! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-17 05:47:14
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 16 2008, 12:51 PM) [snapback]460820[/snapback]
Is he donating money to Andy's webcast. blink.gif

Did anyone else read this?
He really should have said it on one or two,..or six of his other posts. wink.gif

That REALLY came as a surprise to you?

I also offered to match any donations from my regular detractors to a total of another £100 (I've already matched Scott in Belgium and Ton in Dublin to that tune.

I thought it would be a good opportunity to prove that, like me, they DO have the Ton at heart. So far nobody has contributed.

Nach0 claims it's all about self aggrandisement-he seems to know an awful lot about that sort of thing.

So there you go RH-I don't think you're really a nasty bloke, and I KNOW you genuinely love the Ton, so why don't you make a wee contribution and I'll double it? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-17 06:32:43
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 16 2008, 11:45 PM) [snapback]461262[/snapback]
Mortonjag regards THEIR demeanour as disrespectful, ill judged, ignorant, presumptuous, offensive, self obsessed, odious, and arrogant in the extreme.

I think there is some game you are playing when you come up with stuff like this. I just have not figured out what it is? Are you a drinker? Do these lines come out when you had a few?

None of those gentlemen can hold a cande to Mortonjag in the experience, wisdom, and CONFIDENTIALITY stakes.

Well I can. I have had forty years in a profession where confidentiality is paramount plus I have seen the inside workings of more companies than you've had hot breakfasts. I've dealt with gangsters and drug dealers in my day in the line I am in and Douglas Rae definitely does not strike me as dishonest in that sense although like most of us, he will stretch the truth. I will agree that he is autocratic and involves himself in areas he should not. I will agree that Morton are being run on a shoestring and as a result the administration is not what it should be. It might even be that some people have not been treated in the way that they should. On the other hand, we lose around £400k a year and the only way to stop it is to get to the SPL. If I was funding these losses, I would trim admin as much as I could also.

I made some suggestions to you a couple of years ago to help the club when I thought I was going to be less busy than I am now. You turned me down flat. Morton are my club and have been all my life and that applies to several generations of my family. My perception looking in is of a fairly inefficient mob who are basically honest and try though. No one, including you has shared anything with me to make me think otherwise. On the contrary, the people I do know who have worked for DDFR (and I know several) have a reasonably high regard for him. The money thats being burned through inefficiency is Douglas Rae's/Golden Casket's (which equals Douglas Rae!) so as long as he puts it up, should I worry?

So, MJ, you've had the opportunity a few times but, here am I, in the dark about the 'dirt' you have. I'm a professional person. I know how to keep my mouth shut. I also know how to differentiate between real dirt and inefficiency. It just makes me think that what you have is a lot of small things (like failing to register a director - doing it late won't even raise an eyebrow at Companies House I promise you!) which are being stirred into something bigger.

I just need the missing link to be able to put your agenda in place. There is something I don't know and I am curious.




Would you care to publicly post the correspondence between us from that couple of years back?

I've lost mine but I recall pretty accurately that then-as now-you resented me questioning Rae, and when your usual long winded and sanctimonious outbursts similar to the one above failed, you 'p.m'd me along the following lines.

'I'm a vastly experienced insolvency practitioner (followed by potted CV) and I believe you and I could approach Mr Rae as 'the voice of the fans'.

I told you straight away, honestly, and in no uncertain terms that I did not believe Mr Rae would be receptive, and mentioned my brother-also an accountant, in charge of a HUGE public institution, a Trust member and an avid Ton fan. I suggested that the three of us could perhaps get together and form a 'think tank'. You did not bother to reply.

I 'turned you down 'flat'! laugh.gif laugh.gif

What's actually happening now is, that in line with several other posters who haven't bothered to look for the truth behind 'Mortonjag', you've suddenly been jolted to your complacent senses because possible financial irregularities have been dug up.


'Haud on'-you are shouting-'I'm the money big cheese on here'-doctors aren't allowed to have opinions about MY specialty...

and it does you ZERO credit.

Folk on this pubic massage board are unimpressed by status, pomp, and big words Mr R-climb down off the hobby horse and feel the pulse of the masses. They are singularly unimpressed by that pompous professional fud Mortonjag-start doing fan speak!

Furthermore, there's no need for the massive 'cream puff' just because you feel excluded from 'The Mortonjag Archives'.

You are welcome to join Mortonjag's PM club-but only when you stop the fawning crap about Rae.

Inverclyde folk know exactly who and what he is-nothing you say will make a jot of a difference.

Finally that comment about failing to register a director 'not bothering Companies House'-that's a totally different story from the information they gave me! unsure.gif

There's a share issue of £1,000,000-or is it twice that-on the go, HADN'T YOU NOTICED? biggrin.gif

If your 'it's a mere bagatelle' attitude to a matter of concern to thousands of fans indeed reflects the morality and accountability of your kind of people, I'm damned glad I'm a doctor.
mortonjag 2008-06-17 06:56:41
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jun 17 2008, 06:25 AM) [snapback]461288[/snapback]
NEVER!!!! smile.gif

I just find it amusing that I've been brought up in your, and a few other, posts about this. My request for the mods to have a word in your shell-like pale into insignifigance compared to some of the vitriol coming your way.

I admit I have pm'd the mods asking for you to be....muzzled smile.gif at the same time as the posts mentioned above.

I don't believe in censorship, but I believe this board can be a good place to hang about, if moderated properly.

You are weakening-soon I shall have you in my wicked clutches!

TRUSSSSSSSSSSST in me. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-17 07:05:41
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jun 17 2008, 02:24 AM) [snapback]461283[/snapback]
Dabbing whiskey or aftershave on it was my gran's favourite but I always found s*** like Zovirax works best. Beyond that just eat healthily to get your bodies natural defences going well and don't worry about it.

Don't go down on anyone either. You'll give them herpes smile.gif

laugh.gif

Good sound advice from a Jersey Jail!

There's very little you can do I'm afraid, but if you come out in really nasty eruptions, and provided you feel them coming on-(many folk experience a strange tingling a couple of days before the rash appears), and get to the surgery PRONTO you might be able to con your GP into prescribing anti viral tablets-they work the same way as Zovirax but attack the viruses in the bloodstream which is much more effective. If you don't start them very early they won't work. (Same with the cream by the way)

I say 'con' because those drugs are very expensive and most GP's won't prescribe them for mild infections, but it's worth a try.

Good luck!

mortonjag 2008-06-17 07:08:13
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jun 15 2008, 01:55 PM) [snapback]460387[/snapback]
yes its a complete waste of time and money, most big business has its fair share of dodgy dealings, thats life.

Not according to tonsilitis!
mortonjag 2008-06-17 07:15:19
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 16 2008, 12:29 AM) [snapback]460626[/snapback]
'That's what all the people say
Riding high in April
Shot down in May
But I know I'm gonna change that tune
When I'm back on top, back on top in June'

Good song don't you think Big Doc? Or do you prefer Volk songs? tongue.gif



A friend of mine bought an automobile
At a dollar down and a dollar a week.
Every time he turned the wheel,
It was a dollar down and a dollar a week.

He went riding down the road,
Pinched this girl upon her cheek.
Speed cop took him to the judge,
He got a dollar down and a dollar a week.

Sixty days he laid in jail,
At a dollar down and a dollar a week,
Another man was a lovin' his gal,
At a dollar down and a dollar a week.

When he got out he shot the man,
And laid him in the graveyard six feet deep.
And when he bought the graveyard spot,
it was a dollar down and a dollar a week


A dollar down and a dollar a week


You can get all the things you seek

for a dolar down and a dollar a week! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-17 08:40:42
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jun 17 2008, 08:26 AM) [snapback]461305[/snapback]
Don't know - but I am sure that there wil be a closing date - perhaps try asking the club!

IF Golden Casket are to remain 75% in control then I do not think that AD will be allowed to "invest" 500K. As a trained advanced abacus user yourself, I am sure that you can crunch the numbers...

You can assume anything that you like - the accuracy of which will depend on a number of factors!

You do not have to have invested any money in a company to become a valuable member of its Board of Directors.

Please note that the above does not represent any official view other than my own and its accuracy cannot be relied upon in a court of law or any other forum. However, I do hope that it has at least attempted in part to answer your query. I am sure that someone else will be able to answer it better than my humble self,


“NOW, what I want is, Facts. Teach these boys and girls nothing but Facts. Facts alone are wanted in life. Plant nothing else, and root out everything else. You can only form the minds of reasoning animals upon Facts: nothing else will ever be of any service to them. This is the principle on which I bring up my own children, and this is the principle on which I bring up these children. Stick to Facts, sir!”

Hard Times indeed MJ tongue.gif laugh.gif

I thought A Christmas Carol was your favourite bedtime story Neddy-that way you can slever all over old Scrooge 24 hours a day.
mortonjag 2008-06-17 08:46:22
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jun 17 2008, 08:35 AM) [snapback]461306[/snapback]
No, you didn't seen him; you saw him.

NO

You would have saw him

She seen him-that's what she said and I believe her.
mortonjag 2008-06-17 08:58:34
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jun 17 2008, 08:54 AM) [snapback]461313[/snapback]
What the dickens are you on about....

A tale of two chitties.
mortonjag 2008-06-17 09:08:41
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 17 2008, 08:54 AM) [snapback]461315[/snapback]
as usual, what you say is ambiguous, so let me correct a possible misperception.

it's true that the persona of mortonjag is frequently noisy (and at times noisome), and a degree of muffling would not go amiss rolleyes.gif

'this issue' was the demand to know what alistair donald's investment plans were
. my point was that even if you asked him to his face, he wouldn't tell you if he didn't want to, so the line of questioning was futile.

the question of whether alistair donald is (or has ever been) a director of gmfc is, however, a different kettle of worms, and one on which a shareholder or potential investor (you are of course correct to declare a financial interest) might 'reasonably' expect an answer of gmfc ltd.

of course, the companies house record is capable of several interpretations, given the apparent delays in filings tongue.gif

No it wasn't-it was a general question thrown in for open debate and the key was quite simply 'What's the score folks'!

Mortonjag did not DEMAND to know anything-as usual poor wee Trumpet got carried away in his ever futile attempt to down the Jag!

Your last sentence is of course correct, though Companies House will surely endeavour to clarify the matter should a potential shareholder choose to ask questions.

After all, part of the raison d'etre of Companies House is to protect the public from inaccurate information-intended or otherwise.
mortonjag 2008-06-17 09:39:06
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 17 2008, 09:21 AM) [snapback]461323[/snapback]
Namely...?

I love word associations-or I could do a wee poem instead-there---


Where is the missing Director who's namely
Alistair Donald-I've searched for him gamely
Some say he's holed up wi' Shoogly's faimly
Every excuse that is made is made lamely.

mortonjag 2008-06-17 09:54:09
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 17 2008, 09:47 AM) [snapback]461329[/snapback]
Don't give up the search for 'oor Ally'
After all, he and Rae are so pally
But I don't know why they dilly-dally
When increasing our directorship tally



Maybe the paperwork ended at Cappie,
winsome, but not a reliable chappie-
painfully pondering which way to go.
Frankly I think Donald's just shot the crow.
mortonjag 2008-06-17 10:03:54
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 17 2008, 09:32 AM) [snapback]461324[/snapback]
hmm, starting not one but two threads looks pretty insistent to me (although not unprecedented) rolleyes.gif

AYE, VERY GOOD TRUMPET-do keep up -the first thread was moved apparently without trace to a MORE APPROPRIATE FORUM laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Well over 4,000 views-almost 250 posts on this -the original forum Trumpet.

Do you play petanque?
mortonjag 2008-06-17 10:10:33
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jun 17 2008, 10:00 AM) [snapback]461339[/snapback]
yeah i know, its pretty unbelievable isnt it? i suppose my mate could have just went to the office and handed it in on a matchday, but at the end of the day he was honest and did do his bit by contacting the club about it - they failed to follow it through. to be fair to him, he only gave it out to people who would never have come along and paid anyway - i used it to take my girlfriend a few times, and he used it to take his along a few times too, that was about it (so at least the club did get a wee bit of extra money from the chips and capri sun that the burds bought lol).

It is seriously worrying though - i mean, season ticket sales are one of the clubs biggest sources of income, and from this and a few of the other examples given above, it would seem that they are throwing away potentially £000's a year simply from poor administration.



After your discovery yesterday, folk are still fighting furiously to prove that AD is still on the Board.

If he is-and more specifically, if he HAS BEEN since January, it's really quite sad, because everything at Cappielow today is reading 'deja vu'. sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-17 10:20:13
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 17 2008, 10:08 AM) [snapback]461343[/snapback]
I would hold you both in contempt for this pi$h. As the old saying goes, "it is a battle of wits between two unarmed opponents." tongue.gif

As an older saying goes-get tae f*ck!
mortonjag 2008-06-17 11:30:50
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jun 17 2008, 10:49 AM) [snapback]461361[/snapback]
i would have thought it more appropriate for our mutual friend to have replied - forget to change logins again laugh.gif rolleyes.gif wink.gif

Much ado about nuffin' Neddy.
mortonjag 2008-06-17 11:40:23
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 17 2008, 10:54 AM) [snapback]461364[/snapback]
Nick again I would ask or your expertise on this subject .

Should the club be aware they are losing monies whether it is from deception or incompetance ?
Should there be safeguards in place like ensuring all those coming through with season tickets are making payments . All season tickets are numbered so could the club not vet those coming through the turnstile.

You are well aware of the losses at the club and you have said that you understand about keeping admin costs down but at the same time if it is causing for oversights such as this then the policy isin't working .

The last thing the club need at the time of a share issue is evidence of bad practice .

ph34r.gif ph34r.gif blink.gif blink.gif wacko.gif wacko.gif


BAD PRACTICE-how very DARE you even HINT that not all is well within a respectable club run by respectable people for a respectable community for a whacking respectable loss.

Indeed how VERY, VERY dare you. Next you'll be suggesting that the club alienates potential benefactors when it's well know that the club welcomes all new ideas with a openness unprecedented in Scottish Football.

Be thoroughly ashamed of yourself.

Don't you realise that all accountants and all clients of accountants are respectable, and are exceedingly good at keeping secrets! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-17 11:45:13
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 17 2008, 11:05 AM) [snapback]461369[/snapback]
translation

CHECK ME OUT EVERYBODY I'M GIVING MONEY TO CHARITY LOOK AT ME LOOK AT MEEEEEEEEEE!

tosser.

It's not a charity Narcissus-it's OUR football club, but you'd rather buy a season ticket for the midden.


BAWBAG-no I exaggerate-sperm of bawbag. tongue.gif

BTW how's the nappy changing progressing?
mortonjag 2008-06-17 11:57:16
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 17 2008, 10:37 AM) [snapback]461357[/snapback]
I can't be bothered to be honest getting into a slanging match with you. When I read the above though, the immediate thought that passes through my head concerns pots and kettles. Try looking in the mirror when you read that response which is typically dismissive of any other point of view.

As for fawning over Douglas Rae, I hardly know the man and have only spoken to him on a couple of occasions. I do know several people who have worked for him who have different opinions of him from you. Yours may be right but all I am pointing out is that I, in common with most posters on here, including a number of highly articulate and obviously intelligent guys, am not privy to your 'dirt'. I do know though what is happening with the share issue but I can't tell you because I can't compromise my sources and anyway, I would worry about your ability to keep it CONFIDENTIAL.

Unfortunately, like you I no longer have the mail that passed between us but as I recall it was about helping the club keep the website more up to date and also offering to share our business experience in terms of tackling certain projects for the club which they otherwise seem to have difficulty doing. An example might have been devising systems to tackle the matters brought out in the recent discussion about security issues in the sale of season tickets.

Morton are my club and I have a deep affection for them as would I guess 99% of posters on here. The difference between you and I is that I am interested in solutions whereas you seem to be hell bent on the destruction of the present board. You might be right! How do I know??

The difference between you and ME is my absence of blinkers.

I find the red highlighted words offensive and inappropriate from a fellow professional, who 'doesn't want to get into a slanging match' rolleyes.gif -perhaps you will see fit to retract them.

You may 'phone my brother if you want his version of our previous pm's since your memory seems as bad if not worse than mine. You know who and where he is, and he's fully ten years younger than your good self.

What share issue are you talking about by the way, and are you claiming to know more about it that those who attended the recent EGM (IF this is about GMFC)?
mortonjag 2008-06-17 12:36:01
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jun 17 2008, 12:28 PM) [snapback]461392[/snapback]
This is really becoming rather dull and unedifying.

May I recommend a nice shiny Mac Red?
mortonjag 2008-06-17 12:44:44
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 17 2008, 12:03 PM) [snapback]461383[/snapback]
if you think you are giving money to the club, i'd suggest you read the details of andy's proposals again.

BTW i'm not sure what you mean. is there progression involved in changing nappies?

To answer your question-of course there is-you will learn.

I am well away of the details of Andy's proposals-all of which are intended to help the club in a global sense. If Andy or any other person without an agenda asks me to take my money back I'll happily do that. Andy has indicated to me that he's pleased with the gesture, and that'll do me fine thanks. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-17 13:36:18
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 17 2008, 12:53 PM) [snapback]461405[/snapback]
Some of our posters on this very thread accuse Mortonjag of arrogance and self aggrandisement.

Mortonjag regards THEIR demeanour as disrespectful, ill judged, ignorant, presumptuous, offensive, self obsessed, odious, and arrogant in the extreme.

None of those gentlemen can hold a cande to Mortonjag in the experience, wisdom, and CONFIDENTIALITY stakes.


I do know though what is happening with the share issue but I can't tell you because I can't compromise my sources and anyway, I would worry about your ability to keep it CONFIDENTIAL.

First quote is from you. Second was from my response. As I understand your stance, it is OK for you to sling any offensive accusation you like at anyone on this board but take mortal offence when it happens in reverse.

I'm not blinkered. Cynical would be a better word and that comes from years of seeing corporate disasters. I have not accused you of being wrong but merely pointed out that my perspective is of an organisation running on a shoestring and making mistakes. In that they mirror 85% of British companies.

I will repeat for the last time - I am not privy to the apparent damming facts that you have I have to make my judgements based on the information in my possession which leads me to maybe not an entirely different conclusion from you, just one in which the degree of culpability is different.

As far as the share issue goes, I do have some reliable information but, like you, I am not prepared to post it on a public message board or otherwise compromise confidentiality.



You again are doing yourself absolutely no credit. My 'offensive accusation' was specifically directed at 'some of our posters'. You accused a fellow professional (from a profession where confidentiality is an absolute credo at all times) of being untrustworthy in that respect, and worse, you did it for no other reason than that you dislike what I say and the way I say it. Silly comments like 'are you a drinker' are made for the same reason.

In that respect, and in my opinion, you lowered yourself to the level of those very few posters to whom I alluded, and I suggested that you retract your statement, if only to prove that you can admit an error of judgement.

The issue on debate is the running of Greenock Morton, and I have been entrusted with information from others -'my dirt' -as you choose to describe it. Minus that information, your persistent defence of 'the club', albeit commendable in principle, IS blinkered.

I'm not any more interested in your years of seeing corporate disasters than you are in my helping countless real live people cope with terminal illness, and the rest of the posters probably don't give a fig about either. Indeed they are sick to the back teeth of two elderly professional eejits trying to knock lumps out of each other, but Mortonjag is a stubborn old c*nt when it comes to being WANTONLY ATTACKED.

You did not answer my question about the share issue. Are you privy to more information than those at the EGM, and if so, may I be permitted to allude to that privileged and confidential information as 'your dirt'? Why, indeed, do you patently resent my privileged information, while seemingly flaunting your own?

Finally, if you are going to highlight words in big red letters, I'll try to treat you gently by confirming that I have no knowledge of the devious diversions of Scottish Water. smile.gif

mortonjag 2008-06-17 14:04:59
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 17 2008, 01:39 PM) [snapback]461425[/snapback]
Could you two meet up, f*** each other senseless, cradle each other in your arms then go your separate ways?

May lead to the end of this!

I'm free.
mortonjag 2008-06-17 14:10:47
QUOTE(se65an @ Jun 17 2008, 12:22 PM) [snapback]461390[/snapback]
Agreed, I should get my finger out and go else where, but its getting out that comfort zone.

I disagree that moaning gets you nowt, I bet something will happen, cos I moan real good. Sitting back and doing nothing gets you no where.

If you don't ask you don't get.

QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 17 2008, 01:06 PM) [snapback]461411[/snapback]
Therein lies the rub! You have to find a service that's not already being provided or provided well.

I have sometimes thought about provision of handyman services by locating people in all sorts of trades to do small jobs for households or businesses. I've got a cracked bathroom sink and have bought a replacement but can I find a plumber to fit it??? Likewise if you want joiner or electrical work done its really hard to find someone to do small jobs. If you had a firm sat in the middle with a panel of tradesmen prepared to work evenings etc. for some extra dosh and you take a share of the proceeds of each referred job??? Throw into to that mix a couple of computer geeks to fix peoples IT problems, cleaners, people prepared to take ironing jobs etc, etc then put a leaflet through every door in Largs for starters

Retired doctors are sometimes dab hands at fitting sinks-complete kitchens even!
mortonjag 2008-06-17 14:20:38
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 17 2008, 01:59 PM) [snapback]461434[/snapback]
blink.gif
eh,..no. Quite the opposite in fact . I was being sarcastic.


[codebox]Look at me everyone !!! I'm donating money!![/codebox]

I'll make my own donations thanks, without shouting about it and I'll chose when and who I donate to.
I don't feel the need to prove anything. Perhaps you do.

I suspect you may be a more humble and poorer person than Mortonjag.

You certainly appear to feel the need to attack Mortonjag at every opportunity-Mortonjag doesn't mind if that saves the Health Service money, and wouldn't dream of drawing attention to it in a self aggrandising manner..
mortonjag 2008-06-17 15:09:22
QUOTE(stubaws @ Jun 17 2008, 02:22 PM) [snapback]461451[/snapback]
TiD,

as a lot of people have said, jag raises some good points. however, the minute someone so much as questions his point of view or puts their own - different - point of view across, he's all over them like a fat kid on a cheeseburger. if he cant take his point of view being questioned, fine i aint got much of a problem with that other than the fact he's old enough to realise not everyone will always agree with him. what i do have a problem with is how he will constantly refer to his 'evidence' that only he and a select few are privy to and mock/ridicule/lambast anyone who hasn't seen this 'evidence' for believing things that contradict anything in his 'evidence' of malpractice.

i for one dont have much interest in this 'evidence' being broadcast over this board or anywhere else. iv said before iv never been a fan of dougie rae's and anyone looking in at the club without blue and white tinted glasses can see that there are many problems within it. if jag has 'evidence' of any of this, i doubt its much more incriminating than what i and no doubt many others imagine to be wrong at the club.

despite all this and my own thoughts on the matter, i find his repeated attacks on pretty much every thread absolutely tedious. prime example being last week with a thread on davie irons being on a radio programme that descended into some slanging match about dougie/shoogly/toothrotter/alastair donald/cappie the cat....(delete as appropriate). i'll reiterate, he does make some valid arguments, its the way he makes himself out to be so much better than anyone else and pleads innocence everytime one of his ridiculous arguments hijacks a completely unrelated thread that pisses so many people off.

you have your 'evidence' mj, good for you. is it too much to allow other people to discuss their views on a public messageboard without ridiculing them or completely twisting the subject round to the chairman and his faults?

Stu-please get one thing straight-I DON'T deny anybody the right to voice an opinion, and I never attack anybody who is capable of doing so in a civilised and non confrontational manner.

Your objections to what I post, and how often I post, and the manner in which I post it are legitimate. They are also merely your opinion.

I'll give you an example of why Mortonjag so often 'attacks'-it's in your last paragraph, and the highlighted red part.

If you had just said 'You have your evidence MJ' that would have been perfectly acceptable. 'Good for you' whether intended or not, sounds derisory and invites back biting, and it's an example of what happens ALL THE TIME.

Why don't you look carefully at some of the threads, and you'll see what I mean.

One final point-I don't make myself out to be much better than others, though I often take the piss with daft comments about Mortonjag not making mistakes etc., etc.

The fact is Stu, that when it comes to expression in English, I AM well ahead of the pack. That does not make me better than them, but it sure gets on their tits more than it should! wink.gif wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-18 05:48:51 SHOOGLY I'm led to believe by his asinine friend IS A fine example of being HUNg like a donkey.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 05:57:03
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 17 2008, 02:59 PM) [snapback]461470[/snapback]
It disappoints me that we have a shoot the messenger approach to revealing things of this nature .
If someone had told me that they were getting away with payments for season tickets I'd have raised it in the same way as yourself .
I would urge anyone who knows of any ways in which the club is losing out on money to come foward . Lets get everything out in the open in the hope that those incharge will rectify all past mistakes and the club at least will be on a better footing .

Would that mean me revealing all my 's***' to Tonsilitis and all the other jealous wee fuds who keep having a go? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-18 06:08:45
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jun 16 2008, 10:44 PM) [snapback]461211[/snapback]
An inept, unprofessional, incompetent shambles is what it is.



I've been thinking about this-although Rae is thicker skinned than a psoriatic pachyderm he knows everything that's being said on this pubic massage board.


It's come to me with complete clarity that Alistair Donald is a 'plant', who popped down to Inverclyde on one brief occasion for a Tilly interview, just to do his old Hun pal Crawford a favour.

Now that old fox thinks he can bluster away to his heart's content and folk will think 'all's well because there's yon rich c*nt in the background so it cannae go pear shaped again'.

BTW said fox was 77 at the weekend

77 and still going strong-grudgingly I must say-Many happy returns ya auld miser.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 06:14:51
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jun 18 2008, 06:11 AM) [snapback]461737[/snapback]
Isn't Crawford a Cellic fan? blink.gif


Very possibly, as the Raes seem to keep everone guessing laugh.gif , though last I heard the good son of Steptoe had access to a corporate box at the castle.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 06:30:27
QUOTE(CJTon @ Jun 17 2008, 02:41 PM) [snapback]461462[/snapback]
Has anyone ever heard of the concept of non-exec directors before? That is the type of role I believe Alistair Donald has been asked to perform by the Chairman. ie to bring a perspective from the outside in relation to various parts of the business that is Greenock Morton FC and where improvements can be made. His vast previous experience in the business world will have been a major factor in him being asked to perform this advisory role.

I am having a laugh at all the various threads and conspiracy theories on this subject. I do not know whether AD wishes to invest any part of his wealth in the club and if I did know I would not divulge such information but I can confirm he does exist and has attended quite a number of games last season (more than originally planned I am sure) and was as nervous as the rest of us on the last day of the season up at Firhill.

Not quite sure why some people like to turn something positive into a negative.

I for one look forward to the new season and the positive factor of the new management team although am aware that a tough season will ensue with a lot of good teams in this division.

Aye-very good Shoogly-and less stilited than your usual crap.

QUOTE(ton5saints1 @ Jun 17 2008, 04:58 PM) [snapback]461533[/snapback]
Alistair Donald has been purported to be a director of Morton F.C. from all quarters.

I was actually quite taken aback at the non-appearances of Douglas and Crawford Rae at the egm as well as not even an apology from Mr Donald re his non-attendance, and it's now even more confusing with Mr Donald NOT being listed at Companies House as being a director of Morton F.C. at any time whatsoever.

To avoid any confusion maybe the 'tele' should follow up on the e.g.m. new stand story, speak to both Mr Rae (senior) and Mr Donald to get any sort of update/progress, and clarify Mr Donald's actual position at the club (if any) 'cause I for one am totally confused by the whole issue.

It's a valid point-they are the ones who were used as pawns in the scam in the first place-they have a duty to update us.

QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 17 2008, 05:25 PM) [snapback]461538[/snapback]
Yeah they do.

A Non-Executive Director, does not have any formal delegated authority although the title carries with it the
ostensible authority of a Director recognised by law.

He can't act on behalf of the company (club) but his role is to provide a creative contribution to the board by providing objective criticism.

They are meant to bring to the board some or all of the following:-
independence
impartiality
wide experience
special knowledge
personal qualities

No mention of a huge wad of readies to dish out on player's contracts. The fact that he is not mentioned on Companies House web site could simply be a admin error on GMFC's behalf and not something of great importance.


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QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 17 2008, 05:44 PM) [snapback]461547[/snapback]
Should someone not contact the club to make them aware of this oversight .


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QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 17 2008, 05:54 PM) [snapback]461553[/snapback]
01475 723571 ask for Gillian. wink.gif

0141 634 2679 and ask for Heidi-petite non smoker who doesn't smell of Fudgy Wudgy.

QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Jun 17 2008, 06:40 PM) [snapback]461573[/snapback]
why not? its a morton message board to discuss morton topics and sometimes you do not think at the moment, it takes time for things to sink in and get some clarity.. or none in this matter.


It's also a good place to beat your hidden agendas to death and bore everyone else in the process! wink.gif


QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Jun 17 2008, 08:09 PM) [snapback]461602[/snapback]
Where is the old duffer tonight anyway, probably suffering from repetitive strain injury.

Mortonjag was at Church Choir practice-is that all right with you-oh and LESS of the 'duffer'.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 06:37:33
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jun 18 2008, 06:16 AM) [snapback]461739[/snapback]
You may well be correct but I'm just thinking of Dougie's references to the green side of Glasgow. tongue.gif

Apparently Steptoe and son do a wee Cabaret routine when they've had a couple of Baileys.

The boy gets oot the flute and does a wee 'Sash mia Farrow wore' while the old shooglemeister rocks rhythmically in the background doing 'drums' on his rosary.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 06:41:57
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jun 17 2008, 05:27 PM) [snapback]461539[/snapback]
Really strange you should post this as I have one just now and it's doing my nut in. I buy Zovirax and it works well. Only problem is it is expensive. I bought a box for £5 odd the other day and opened it up to find a tiny 2g tube.

I also know where you are coming from with it always appearing at the wrong times. My Uni graduation picture was ruined by a cracker big cold sore on my lip. sad.gif

Just think-if you were male it could have been the tip of your willie.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 06:52:45
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 18 2008, 01:03 AM) [snapback]461699[/snapback]
More like two bald men fighting over a comb.....

Shame on you McArthur-alopecia is an illness, and baldy c*nts are allowed to have feelings-AND memories.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 06:56:23
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jun 17 2008, 11:10 PM) [snapback]461668[/snapback]
Guys, let's face it - whether the old fud knows anything or not, he ain't saying and he ain't likely to. And he's gonna keep on hijacking threads with irrelevancies, being offensive to those who dare to disagree with his guff and generally getting on the nipples of almost all of us - as long as we let him.

BUT - there is a solution at hand - quite literally. Take his oft-tendered advice, and use the "huff button" to ignore him and all of his effluence. I did this almost a week ago, and I can now surf this site in an almost Zen-like state of tranquility. Any time I scroll over one of his blusterings, all I see in the box is " You have chosen to ignore all posts from: mortonjag. " and I pass on over that little wordy bridge, oblivious to the stirrings of the pondlife below me. The board's become one of life's wee minor pleasures again instead of being a chore to read.

Think of it - if all, or most, of those who are sick to the back molars of either the content or the sheer volume that spews from his keyboard were to put him on "ignore" he wouldn't get the attention or the reaction that he clearly thrives upon. Those who choose not to "ignore" him could keep him occupied as a public service for the rest of us. And if he ever DOES reveal the contents of his "top-secret dossier" we'll all know soon enough from other sources. Win-win all the way for all except buggerlugs himself. It's the "Domestos" button - kills 99% of all known twerps.

Give it a try - you'll be glad you did.
PS- One of the great things is that, even if he takes a poke at me for this, I won't give a second-hand fart BECAUSE I WON'T EVEN KNOW...... DAMN, life is good!!! laugh.gif



When self important 'up ain erse fuds' have posted this kind of keech before, Mortonjag's reply has inevitably been quoted. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-18 07:13:37 Not had any major fall outs with anyone else since me and mortonjag were at war. That was enough of a cyber battle to last a lifetime.
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That was just a wee misunderstanding, and you were very gracious in defeat! laugh.gif





QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 18 2008, 01:45 AM) [snapback]461720[/snapback]
I always thought Toby was the entertainment at some games. I paid £12 plus a tenner bus fare to watch a s***, shhhhiiiiit, team and there was Toby calling people a "rrrrrreptile". I love you man!



Toby hasn't met Mortonjag so he doesn't realise that Mortonjag was beside him at half time him in the lavvy at Stirling.

Poor Toby was a wee bit 'the worse o' the wear' and was fumbling for ages trying to find his weapon while chanting at the top of his voice 'time to go Jim' The biggest laugh of all was that at that point we'd being playing quite well!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-18 07:26:53
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jun 18 2008, 07:16 AM) [snapback]461748[/snapback]
I wouldn't say defeat. I was just the bigger man and backed down. tongue.gif

HA-it was well worth the money-a few folk disliked Mortonjag in those days and he didn't want more adverse publicity. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-18 07:33:00
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 18 2008, 07:17 AM) [snapback]461749[/snapback]
I'd like to see that.

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The tickets cost an arm and a leg, so I'd go for payment by direct debit.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 07:41:58 We have no full backs, one goalkeeper, and no wingers. Our central defence and midfield have been beefed up, but the money's not there-especially if we fail to offload a couple of contracted players.

It's not just about signing-a contract has to be arranged and wages paid. In that respect, yet another striker would be complete MADNESS.

If Spoonsy is fit and 'up for it' he'll get goals-mark my words, and the same applies to LEAFY once they sort out the supply problem. Football's a funny game-maybe Jamie will take a tumble to himself and start knocking in a few as well.

Anyway, the point is that you could have your squad composed entirely of strikers-that would surely guarantee about 371 goals every season! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-18 07:54:12
QUOTE(Russells Muscles @ Jun 18 2008, 07:36 AM) [snapback]461752[/snapback]
Mortonjag wink.gif

Get off this f*cking board you weasel-you have a bloody cheek to think you can resurface as Russell's Muscles.

You are a coward, a cheat, and a creep, and if I ever find out who you are I'll f*cking prosecute you if Rae refuses to deal with you.

mortonjag 2008-06-18 07:58:33
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 18 2008, 07:45 AM) [snapback]461754[/snapback]
The chief executive of Royal Dutch/Shell, Jeroen van der Veer, a man who has forgotten more about oil than a New York commodities trader has ever learned, gave his view of peak oil.

In an email to staff, he said “easily accessible supplies of oil and gas will no longer keep up with demand”. Renewables will become more important as sources of energy, as will nuclear power, he said.

Van der Veer believes the future would hold one of two possible scenarios. The first, he dubbed “scramble”. The second, he called “blueprints”.

Scramble would see individual countries rush to secure their own supplies, creating a dangerous situation of winners and losers.

Blueprints would involve international political cooperation leading to harmonisation of standards, taxes, and emissions trading.

Proposals for high-powered talks in Saudi Arabia show that some countries are keen on the “blueprint” proposal of international cooperation.

But, before that happens it’s a fair bet that the countries in greatest need of energy will scramble to secure their own future supplies with China leading the stampede.



If Bawheid's record to date is anything to go on, you can forget him bothering to look beyond his own expected lifespan. He doesn't even have a wife and family to think about, 'cos sure as fate Moira the housekeeper of convenience in chubby chops chapel house will predecease the pragmatic ponce.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 08:19:31
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 18 2008, 07:53 AM) [snapback]461755[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

you are showing your age,mate.

Have you seen any medical student exam papers in recent years ?

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Too true Newt-sometimes I could greet-I really could.

I mean no harm to wee Puggs in particular, (even if he lost all credibility with me recently with his 'I don't mind the banter but....' statement), however, I do find it crassly incongruous that folk feel entitled to boast of 'upper second' Honours degrees, when they cannot construct a sentence in their native language, let alone spell the most rudimentary of words.

It was no comfort to me to discover yesterday the ironic truth that Tonsilitis, our VASTLY experienced insolvency practitioner who has obviously spent his whole life with his head buried in books, has failed to grasp the basics of spelling.

I'm so glad I took a degree in English prior to my medical studies. It has put me light years ahead of those common 5/8ths, or is that just a function of my massive intellect?


mortonjag 2008-06-18 08:27:06
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 18 2008, 08:22 AM) [snapback]461764[/snapback]
baldy c*nts are allowed to have feelings-AND memories.
and if they are female they can save lots on depilation.

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They are by definition female-no need for the conditional preposition Newt.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 08:31:05
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 18 2008, 08:25 AM) [snapback]461765[/snapback]
I mean no harm to wee Puggs in particular, (even if he lost all credibility with me recently with his 'I don't mind the banter but....' statement), however, I do find it crassly incongruous that folk feel entitled to boast of 'upper second' Honours degrees, when they cannot construct a sentence in their native language, let alone spell the most rudimentary of words.
Be thankful that you do not live in the United States nor Australia.

Where children graduate from primary or elementary school.

And no one can define matriculation.

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Over here it's called w*nking.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 08:34:40
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 18 2008, 08:05 AM) [snapback]461759[/snapback]
I look forward to a more serious answer from Col.

However, 8/10 for alliteration.

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I suspect Spurtle's sloped off since he seems to have ceased severing over his status symbol.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 08:37:26
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 18 2008, 08:13 AM) [snapback]461761[/snapback]
Four residents at a Victorian nursing home were taken to hospital after caustic soda was mistakenly sprinkled on their pancakes, it was revealed on Wednesday.

Owen Stephens, chief executive of the Casterton Memorial Hospital in south-western Victoria, said three women and a man were admitted to the hospital on June 4 after falling ill.

He said one of the patients from Edgarley Home left the same day, while two others were kept overnight for observation and the fourth victim stayed another day.

"My indication on discussion with the home was that it was an accident," Mr Stephens told AAP.

"It was nothing of a malicious nature."

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Don't worry Newt, the regulations over here are fairly strict those days.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 08:45:37
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 18 2008, 08:35 AM) [snapback]461770[/snapback]
to wink ?

to matriculate ?

... sorry, I'm lost.

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OH-MATRICULATE-I thought you said masturbate-I must have been temporarily blinded, though masturbation linked to ejaculation leads to matriculation.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 08:51:21
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 18 2008, 08:33 AM) [snapback]461768[/snapback]
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You have lived in Newlands for too long.

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I have a serious question for you and any other poster who is willing to treat it with due thought.

Is a shaven c*nt bald? tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-18 08:54:42
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Jun 18 2008, 08:43 AM) [snapback]461772[/snapback]
Kelly Dalglish has got a big fat arse so would be to similar to players like Templeman to succeed.

Andy Ritchie had a nice round sticky oot erse.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 09:12:59
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 18 2008, 08:56 AM) [snapback]461778[/snapback]
GibbyTON can have the comb, I don't want it anymore.

Two baldy round headed men can put their heads together and make an arse of themselves!


I wish I had the pic.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 09:45:57
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 18 2008, 09:44 AM) [snapback]461786[/snapback]
hilarious.

I'm glad you found it funny.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 09:46:48
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 18 2008, 09:30 AM) [snapback]461785[/snapback]
sorry i missed it. had an appointment with a chap who was demonstrating nappies and he didn't even show.

Hilarious
mortonjag 2008-06-18 09:57:09
I always read your posts and thought, 'silly wee boy', but after that you have confirmed your nothing less than a complete arsehole blink.gif
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Piehole is far from being a 'silly wee boy'. With unparalleled self control, rare patience, and no lack of virtue, he has preserved his virginity in the commendable belief that the 'right person is just around the corner'.

He is an avid follower of Santa Claus, Dougas Rae, and The Tooth Fairy, that ultimate allegiance possibly giving a clue to his true disposition in life.



mortonjag 2008-06-18 09:59:02
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 18 2008, 09:47 AM) [snapback]461789[/snapback]
i didn't.

I knew.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 10:02:30
QUOTE(Russells Muscles @ Jun 18 2008, 09:48 AM) [snapback]461790[/snapback]
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Right creep-the longer you stay 'live' on here the more chance the Mods will have of identifying you to me. The only reason you got off the hook last time was the multiple use of your ISP. You published my private information on this pubic massage board from confidential club records, and I was content to see the back of you. MODS PLEASE NOTE.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 10:11:27
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 18 2008, 10:02 AM) [snapback]461797[/snapback]
If we are playing 3 at the the back, then we won't need wingers or fullbacks blink.gif We will have wingbacks rolleyes.gif

Another striker gives us options as last years strike force left alot to be desired at times. So seeking another striker to enhance what we already have is not madness

Wing backs are only OK if they can do a full back's job, and in any case it's CRAZY beyond belief that any club should be entering a new season having to rigidly stick to 'three at the back'.

Blackboard football's just that Spurtle-wake up and smell the coffee. If 'they' have decent wingers we need decent full backs, and if we are going to get decent crosses into the box we need wingers ( Jimbo and Kev are neither wingers nor full backs-merely vestiges of JM's 'Ah huvny a clue' policy which still satisfied 75% of posters less than a year ago.)

Please let's not be conned and f*cked about again this time-the squad needs more shape and more options-a blind man can see that-NOT MORE F*CKING STRIKERS.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 10:14:58
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 18 2008, 10:05 AM) [snapback]461798[/snapback]
whit ?

caustic soda only on Fridays ?

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Less Victorian.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 10:16:08
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 18 2008, 10:06 AM) [snapback]461799[/snapback]
didnae be daft.

It ain't even waxed.

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May a bald c*nt be shaven?
mortonjag 2008-06-18 10:17:51
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 18 2008, 10:11 AM) [snapback]461800[/snapback]
OH-MATRICULATE-I thought you said masturbate.

Gidday mortonjag,

when you and I and Alibi and possibly Teacher Tom and Tonsilitis were young, we all had a matriculation year.

Thankfully, it wasn't the other.

I, for one, would have failed miserably.

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Masturbation has been the watchword in the Cappielow Board room for many years.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 10:19:02
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 18 2008, 10:00 AM) [snapback]461795[/snapback]
Max Factor is a rogue.

Good to see that they are the only ones.



I much prefer to stick to simple soap and stuff.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 10:22:05
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 18 2008, 10:15 AM) [snapback]461803[/snapback]
If one only wants standing room, may one use a standing order ?

Or is it a SPL event with compulsory seating ?

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It's the Annual Cabaret held in the Gamble Halls every year to celebrate Feart Matilda's birthday.

Somebody told me the tickets were dear.

I just made the rest up.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 10:23:35
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 18 2008, 10:20 AM) [snapback]461807[/snapback]
mentaljag goes greeting to mods shocker

Still blocking pm's?
mortonjag 2008-06-18 10:27:45
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 18 2008, 10:22 AM) [snapback]461810[/snapback]
You know, pointing out spelling and grammar flaws on an internet message board is a bit like pointing out how people pronounce words differently in real life.

It will bug some people beyond belief, but the majority will really not give two flying fecks!

If it helps you I can, on occasion, string together a decent sentence or two with no mistakes. I'll openly admit grammar is not my strongest point (hence why I done accounts and not...oh I don't know...English at university).

And to be fair I rarely spell words wrong on here, that is the beauty of having a spell checker built into my browser wink.gif

Spell checkers are only as good as those who know how to use them----


or wait--is this THE ULTIMATE wind up? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-18 10:30:50
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 18 2008, 10:28 AM) [snapback]461816[/snapback]
despite what this dullard thinks, i really did have an appointment with a chap from a nappy company who didn't show.

how was the gig? did you get a good turn out?

No need to belittle yourself-maybe the nappy chappy thought you were a sh!t too far.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 10:34:44
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 18 2008, 10:32 AM) [snapback]461818[/snapback]
aye. i'm not interested in joining any cliques or hearing any fish-wifie rumours.

I was meaning PM's from innocent wee lassies.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 10:46:33
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 18 2008, 10:33 AM) [snapback]461820[/snapback]
Again, those you have pointed out would be more grammar areas, something I have said I am poor with.

Sorry I don't reach your level of acceptance good sir but I am quite happen with my station in life smile.gif



I see young man. Will we be seeing the end of your own smart arsed take-offs (takes-off, in my day) of posters who haven't quite reached your limited level of intelligence?

It's all about fair play-don't joust with the Monkey and Fing, and then go posting elsewhere that you can't stand their Daddy.

They don't like that sort of two faced stuff-ESPECIALLY Fing.

I have no problem at all with your ignorance-we all suffer from it to a greater or lesser degree. I just object to what I see as a dilution of our Educational standards whereby a University Degree those days means not very much. I object far more to Oxbridge c*nts flaunting their bits of paper than to those from, say, Pishley Uni. The former should know better.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 10:49:31
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 18 2008, 10:40 AM) [snapback]461824[/snapback]
innocent wee lassies and pompous arseholes both.

I understand but you are missing mine too.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 10:51:04
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 18 2008, 10:34 AM) [snapback]461822[/snapback]
Feart Matilda's birthday.
I have details going back to 1863.

But, is she older than that ?

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Mr McArthur answers such questions better than me, but I'd opine, 'Yes-yes'.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 10:52:16
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 18 2008, 10:25 AM) [snapback]461812[/snapback]
my factor isn't too bad - i've asked them four times now to cost the painting of my close, the first time back in 2004, and when i phoned the other day to see how this enormous project was coming along, it turned out that they already had one quote and were waiting for another two. superb.

fascinating
mortonjag 2008-06-18 10:52:54
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 18 2008, 10:26 AM) [snapback]461814[/snapback]
May or can ?

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yes
mortonjag 2008-06-18 10:57:19
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 18 2008, 10:22 AM) [snapback]461809[/snapback]
Less Victorian ?

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Our nursing homes in Victoria are all more or less.

For example ...

We offer a *FREE Home delivery service in the Melbourne Metropolitan area and we also deliver throughout Victoria.
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http://www.premiumadultcare.com.au/shop/

I'd rather drive Moby around to the Chemist's thanks-plus I've negotiated a brilliant bulk discount deal on my condoms, provided I buy the incontinence knickers on Mondays-I think he must get a run on them later in the week.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 10:59:11
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 18 2008, 10:53 AM) [snapback]461834[/snapback]
To my mind this may be on the edge of cyber bullying? Nacho is a good example of a young man who is often quite eloquent in his use of language: even if sometimes it is bordering on the edge of sectarianism. wink.gif

Nach0 is a fud
mortonjag 2008-06-18 11:02:28
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 18 2008, 10:55 AM) [snapback]461839[/snapback]
Christ almighty...last time I put out a tongue-in-cheek thread then I guess laugh.gif

...and I never went to Pishley university. Caley punter wink.gif

I was well aware aware that you attended the 'Poly' young man. A wee parrot told me.

May I also back out of every offensive post-sparse though they be- by pleading retrospective 'tongue in cheek'.

Fing awaits your answer with loaded nailgun.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 11:06:32
QUOTE(suda @ Jun 17 2008, 01:25 PM) [snapback]461422[/snapback]
would that be between your butt cheeks?


Only sometimes
QUOTE(SramTon @ Jun 17 2008, 07:07 PM) [snapback]461578[/snapback]
Why don't we just give MJ his own sub-forum on condition he leaves the two main forums alone?

Everyone's a winner, surely? wink.gif

It's not a new idea-3/10 for you

QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jun 18 2008, 10:54 AM) [snapback]461837[/snapback]
Get your tongue out MJ's bangle for one moment and smell the coffee.

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mortonjag 2008-06-18 11:08:52
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 18 2008, 10:56 AM) [snapback]461840[/snapback]
Away and rattle your beads biggrin.gif

Is Nach0 a Tim?
mortonjag 2008-06-18 11:11:17
QUOTE(Tyrannous @ Jun 18 2008, 10:42 AM) [snapback]461825[/snapback]
We're playing three at the back beacuse we want to, not because we're being forced to. We have plently of talented midfielders why should we leave one on the bench to stick another player in defense? Jim and Kev aren't the best "wing backs" but their job has the covering of Paartallu who will provide the defense the sufficient cover. WE DON'T NEED FULL BACKS!

Not according to Davie Irons, but he's just skint Shoogly's latest manager.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 11:17:59
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 18 2008, 11:03 AM) [snapback]461853[/snapback]
In fact we have McGuffie who regularly played right back for Gretna. Walker has played well at left back for us previously so its not beyond us to play 4-4-2 if required.

The urgent signing we need is a goalkeeper. After that I would also look for a striker as we only have three and that's a bit thin for comfort.

If we do major on playing three at the back, if we sign fullbacks, where exactly are they going to play? Likewise, do wingers exist in the modern game? Certainly not in the mould of Jimmy Johnstone or Willie Henderson or our own Jimmy Wilson!

I would agree with Mortonjag about fullbacks if we were going to play 4-4-2 but its clear thats not what the manager is thinking and he is recruiting players to fit his system, not what fans think the system should be. If we are playing 3-5-2 or some variation on that then if Innes is indeed coming, then the priority should be another striker.

We could, and probably will debate this till the new season starts. I find it sad that we are in such a straitened position that DI only weeks ago made comments about full backs, and quality players in the belief that he could make that happen.

I fully expect nerd Nach0 on shortly to bullet point ten totally differing definitions of 'quality', but I just took it to mean of a significantly better quality than what we have, or, recognised generally in first division circles as being 'quality'.

The truth is Shoogly's skint, Alistair Donald's the tooth fairy, and Davie Irons will be sickened off in no time.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 11:21:03
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 18 2008, 11:14 AM) [snapback]461860[/snapback]
He doesn't look like a Tim to me.

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Is that really nach0-I had envisaged something much less complete
mortonjag 2008-06-18 11:29:10
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 18 2008, 11:21 AM) [snapback]461865[/snapback]
I prefer the 3 at the back system. It looks as if that is what our management team also prefer. There is a limited budget for players, not just here but all through the league.
I take it DI & DC decided what system they wanted to go for and have gone for players to fit the system. So far we have brought in a good standard of player. Innes would be an imense signing if true.

A goalkeeper and a striker would set the right balance to our existing squad going on the system we seem to be going with.
Plus we have the players to change the system we will be playing, as Tonsilitis pointed out.

FFS-I want to see some attractive attacking football-OK don't use the term winger if it confuses-we need guys who can put crosses over from wide positions having opened up the defence-WE AIN'T GOT THEM.

Let's not use the term full back either-we need guys who can deal with tricky guys who can put crosses over from wide positions having opened up the defence-WE AIN'T GOT THEM.

We DO have strikers-three of them (probably ten if you accept the modern definition, so WHY WASTE LIMITED MONEY ON MORE?

Everybody seems to have been conned by JM's 'utility player' squads-I'm not interested in who 'can' play quite well out of natural position-get the f*cking players we need.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 11:42:43
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 18 2008, 11:31 AM) [snapback]461871[/snapback]
I think this is his brother.

Bloody hell Newt it's a small world-that guy owns our local take away.

Much0king-they call him, though his real name's Fred Grimes.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 11:44:32
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 18 2008, 10:54 AM) [snapback]461836[/snapback]
what do you think of your factor, quack?

see, i just gave you an opportunity to remind everyone of your wealth and that you live in a mansion in the clouds. fill yer boots, walter.

Hacking and Paterson are no better than the rest.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 11:46:16
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 18 2008, 11:23 AM) [snapback]461868[/snapback]
Whereas you yourself leap well over the edge with gay abandon.

Tim and Hun are not sectarian words in Glasgow.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 11:54:45
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 18 2008, 11:01 AM) [snapback]461848[/snapback]
a brilliant bulk discount deal on my condoms
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what a f***ing waste!

or is that a waste of f***ing ?

PLEASE stop using them ASAP, mortonjag ... the world needs more of your offspring.

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I don't use them nearly as often as I'd like Newt (the boys don't have so much time those days anyway), so I leave a couple of packets in strategic 'hidden' places all round the house-in the glove compartment, and so on, and let them innocently fall out of my pocket in restaurants, the bookies, the Church (C of S-I should hasten to add), etc. I don't want folk realising I'm getting past it.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 11:57:04
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 18 2008, 11:47 AM) [snapback]461879[/snapback]
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EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED'Skin deep'!
mortonjag 2008-06-18 11:58:27
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 18 2008, 11:52 AM) [snapback]461882[/snapback]
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oops - with Nacho's brother owning your local take away, may I suggest that you give Nacho more respect.

Or don't order the pancakes.

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Nach0's a nice fud
mortonjag 2008-06-18 12:00:00
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jun 18 2008, 10:58 AM) [snapback]461844[/snapback]
I don't see anyone shooting the messenger?

Sean's bang on with his comments on Dougie saying "Bring a friend!" and "We need 4000 each week!"
Well Dougie, if you are pissing away money like this what's the point in us making the effort to drag along more victims on a Saturday? Get your own house in order first!

Is Shoogly a drinker? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-18 12:00:47
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jun 18 2008, 11:57 AM) [snapback]461886[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-06-18 12:03:55
QUOTE(Russells Muscles @ Jun 18 2008, 11:22 AM) [snapback]461867[/snapback]
My work here is done. wink.gif Off to Arran for the weekend now. smile.gif

Favourite holiday spot of the Shoogly Show-how apt-may you meet many adders.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 12:05:06
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 18 2008, 12:02 PM) [snapback]461893[/snapback]
These people are real rogues next to moneylenders they have never been regulated and set their own charges.

Ours decided that they are going to charge £7.50 per bill per month additional charges for late payment.

Hey! don't want to excite you guys' too much but did you know that Spanish, French and German governments regulate and cap gas/electricity charges, so are no such restrictions here. We suffer. This country is a joke. sad.gif

...and Scottish Power is Spanish!

El cheek.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 12:10:06
QUOTE(se65an @ Jun 18 2008, 12:01 PM) [snapback]461891[/snapback]
No idea, but he has a cracker house with a nice view over the Clyde rolleyes.gif

A 'cracker house'--FFS Sean that explains everything-I've been far too hard on the old fud and he's turned to coke! huh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-18 12:15:56
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 18 2008, 12:10 PM) [snapback]461898[/snapback]
blink.gif You believe in a higher being than yourself?

My higher power has seen me through more trials and tribulations than our humble posters could assimilate in one reading.

Great comfort has been obtained by those better than me in the words of Holy scripture.

Mortonjag, on the other hand, is an arrogant old fud-I never quite know whether I'm coming or going with him. Do you think I should turn him into an endearing and avuncular Grandpa figure?
mortonjag 2008-06-18 12:17:47
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 18 2008, 12:11 PM) [snapback]461899[/snapback]
Also where my inlaws bide

Do they have a shotgun licence?
mortonjag 2008-06-18 12:36:25
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 17 2008, 02:17 PM) [snapback]461447[/snapback]
Cost me £140 a few years ago, selling it for £40 (no haggling, I don't like it) as I no longer use it. It needs one new string, although it's been unused so long that it's probably best to get a full set. I'll throw in a carry bag for it as well.

If I can be arsed I'll look out the books and stuff I have - probably worth about £50 if I can find them all. Can't make any promises though as they're buried under a mountain of crap in the eaves.

PM me if ye want it.


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'Next, please'


'Erm-do you have a string for a beginner's accoustic guitar please'


'Make'


'No, I bought it from a friend'


'Manufacturer'


'No-he's actually unemployed right now'


'Who MADE the guitar'


'He didn't tell me-is that important'


YES-has it got a name somewhere on it


'China'


'Hmm-well which string do you want'


'The one that's missing-he told me to buy that one'


'NOOO-a guitar has six strings-WHICH one do you need'


'I thought they were all the same-are they not'


'Look-would it not be better if I sell you a packet of strings-that way you're certain to get the right one'


'But won't that be an awful waste of money'


'NO-you're better to put a full set of new strings on anyway'


'Ooops-I seem to remember he told me that-well I'll have a full set please-how much will that be'



'To you Sir-nothing-just f*ck off and never darken my doorway again.





mortonjag 2008-06-18 13:06:22
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jun 18 2008, 12:56 PM) [snapback]461909[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-06-18 13:08:38
QUOTE(Muz @ Jun 18 2008, 12:45 PM) [snapback]461906[/snapback]
Interesting to see I'm at the top of that list.

Any wonder you think this when you used to have a signature that said "Muz is a c***"?

I do think (or did) that you came across as a silly wee boy, in some cases you still do. In terms of disliking you? I'll decide when I meet you , and tell you then.

I really couldnt care less who likes me and who doesnt, that goes for on here and in life in general. If the last year in my personal life has taught me one thing, it's that. f*** anyone who doesnt like you, as it's not worth worrying about.

I've met a lot of good friends through this board (and prob will continue to do so), not really met anyone I disliked, but I'm sure by now that Mortonjag knows that I really cant stand his postings on here, but again if I met him, I would tell him that and probs have a proper chat with him, and then decide if he's as much of a bell end as he comes across as on here.

Mortonjag only chats to decent people with degrees from proper universities.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 13:10:04
QUOTE(steveoath @ Jun 18 2008, 12:45 PM) [snapback]461907[/snapback]
They're mine too, and are an utter shambles. The latest in a long line of cmplaints is that it took them the best part of a year and a half to get quotes to fix a leaking roof and leaking gable end. And they only got 1 quote!!!

Steve

Ross and Liddell were my last ones, and were arguably worse. They tried the old 'We're about to paint all the lock ups and we need the money in now'. I told them I'd pay when the decorators started. They argued , and after a few exchanges they gave up on me.

The work started almost eighteen months later, and the bill was incorporated in my next quarterly statement! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-18 13:20:52
QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Jun 18 2008, 01:10 PM) [snapback]461914[/snapback]
mortonjga, you should stick to talking about what goes one - or what you think goes on - behind the scenes, and what Dougie Rae's next move will be. When it actually comes to football, you haven't a fcking clue by the sounds of things.

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Don't listen to the majority opinion of older posters son-listen the the Jag-you won't go far wrong! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-18 13:25:36
QUOTE(Patg @ Jun 18 2008, 01:15 PM) [snapback]461916[/snapback]
I would like to on behalf of my son (Scott) and myself deny the Kissing part with Toby unless anyone got photos of said deed then name youre price for pics and negatives ...

We have all at some point had fall outs on here but we have one commen bond thats our great love of Greenock Morton .

Heres to lots more kissing and cuddling Toby as we seem to do it after the Ton have done something good ...

Pat G
Ton Till I Die


If you're son's that one in embra he's a pouffe-but nobody really knows what's going to happen when they have a wee shag! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-18 13:31:20
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 17 2008, 02:29 PM) [snapback]461456[/snapback]
awwww poor wee you. sad.gif

There-you ARE a compassionate soul after all.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 13:33:29
QUOTE(se65an @ Jun 18 2008, 12:24 PM) [snapback]461902[/snapback]
Thats nothing to be sniffed at laugh.gif

Dyson Douglas Faulds Rae.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 13:36:02
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 18 2008, 01:33 PM) [snapback]461925[/snapback]
Ah!! So I was right. You are not at Church worshiping a higher being but instead, you’re picking up tips on how to be God with your own wee creation.
Saying as you ask, I'd stick to the MJ you love - why change a winning formula wink.gif

Anyway, can one be both avuncular and Grandpa-like?

Oh indeed, 60 is the new 40!
mortonjag 2008-06-18 13:40:31
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jun 18 2008, 01:37 PM) [snapback]461928[/snapback]
Didn't know God posted on this board tongue.gif

God moves in a mysterious way his wonders to perform.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 13:50:49
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 18 2008, 01:41 PM) [snapback]461930[/snapback]
40? huh.gif I was an Uncle at 15.

Funny old world!
mortonjag 2008-06-18 13:59:24
QUOTE(Patg @ Jun 18 2008, 01:47 PM) [snapback]461932[/snapback]
Morton jag can I ask you to retract the gay statement or can the administrator remove it as In my opinion you have overstepped the mark ..

We all have a laugh and joke on hee but I see youre statement as defarmation of charecter ..

You get away with lot things on here but you will not say things about my family ...

I await youre public apology ...

Pat G
Ton Till I Die



Retracted.

Public apology made.

Am I allowed to explain that it was entirely tongue in cheek or would that detract from the purpose of your post.

Am I also allowed to go back and demand a public apology from your son for every time he has called me much worse.

Why do I suspect this is about to turn into a rammy?

Finally-what do you regard as offensive about homosexuality?

I've just spotted your p.m. and haven't time to read it right now but I can guess what's in it. I'm absolutely serious Pat-don't you f*cking come on all self righteous with me, or I will post some of the stuff I've had from Scotty boy.

If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen. Right-I'm off to the dentist. Think about what I've said before you knee jerk again. Also have a look at the title of the thread-it's MEANT to be a bit of fun.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 15:59:06
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 18 2008, 01:53 PM) [snapback]461936[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-06-18 16:01:12
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 18 2008, 02:14 PM) [snapback]461945[/snapback]
Does anyone know the extent of this? I don't think the club believe its a major problem but maybe the starter for 10 should be to review what exactly has been lost to this sort of activity.

Is that pure conjecture or have you heard it said?
mortonjag 2008-06-18 16:04:27
QUOTE(ton5saints1 @ Jun 18 2008, 03:01 PM) [snapback]461966[/snapback]
I think we've gone of the thread somewhat.

Is Alistair Donald a Morton F.C. Board member or not ?

People want to know if there's going to be any investment from him or if he's disapeared off the scene altogether.

I think we should be told.

Agreed-I'm waiting for some kind of official statement from Companies House within the next 24 hours. He's never been listed as a Director but I want to hear their 'take' on the position.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 16:07:02
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 18 2008, 01:56 PM) [snapback]461937[/snapback]
blink.gif why?
Is it "funny" to have a sibling 6 years older than you?

Nope, and it's still a funny old world! My youngest brother could legally have been an Uncle at 2.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 16:11:11
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 18 2008, 03:55 PM) [snapback]461977[/snapback]
Can you believe in God and not Alister Donald ? they could be the figment of one mans imagination .

I believe in a 'Higher Power' Chris. I don't believe in 'God' in the way that most religious folk do.

I am becoming more convinced by the minute that Mr Donald is the 'Tooth Fairy'. It's an arrangement between him and Shoogly. They reckon the kids spend £100 on Millions and Fudgy Wudgys for every tooth they lose, so it's quite a handsome mark up.

Would that the same perception could be applied elsewhere.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 16:14:01
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 18 2008, 04:02 PM) [snapback]461982[/snapback]
Lets just say its based on my own enquiries.

Fair enough. That puts you in the privileged position of having 'private information'. It sounds like you choose not to post it for public consumption, and I fully respect that.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 16:16:27
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Jun 18 2008, 03:49 PM) [snapback]461975[/snapback]
That rules me out then MJ. unsure.gif Being a proud Techy (both Glasgow and Pishley) intellectual and class snobbery are among the few traits that really wind up me. mad.gif In fact, that it's MJ you're off the Christmas card list.

cool.gif ScotinBelgie

See if I care-the cards from the Oxbridge crowd are much posher anyway. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-18 16:18:28
QUOTE(rex manning @ Jun 18 2008, 04:02 PM) [snapback]461983[/snapback]
Totally agree. Spent most of last season shaking my head in the cowshed and wishing i was watching the game with the away support, might actually do that this year if i dont renew my season book.

Bunch of whining, un-educated morons Morton fans are...

not you guys though, your all cool... apart from Boozehound obviously.

True-though I've I've never heard him whine.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 16:19:51
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Jun 18 2008, 04:09 PM) [snapback]461987[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif Not Much. laugh.gif laugh.gif

It's hilarious that YOU describe other people that way. laugh.gif laugh.gif

I'm delighted that you are amused.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 16:20:37
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 18 2008, 04:15 PM) [snapback]461994[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-06-18 16:21:32
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 18 2008, 04:19 PM) [snapback]461997[/snapback]
I know someone who was an uncle when they were born wink.gif

Siamese twins?
mortonjag 2008-06-18 16:23:50
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 18 2008, 04:22 PM) [snapback]462002[/snapback]
And did she get these qualifications from a "proper uni"?

Proper University.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 16:25:07
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 17 2008, 09:51 PM) [snapback]461641[/snapback]
Just got it, and my two main add-ons (Foxy tunes and a spell checker) are still working.

Nice look about it too.

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mortonjag 2008-06-18 17:29:32
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 18 2008, 04:24 PM) [snapback]462007[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-06-18 17:45:25
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 18 2008, 04:47 PM) [snapback]462030[/snapback]
Before starting the witch hunt amongst the staff lets make sure the correct proceedures were in place .
I would have thought that any proper audit would reveal deiscrepencies between the amount of season tickets issued and monies recieved .
Since this seems to be an ongoing problem then there can't be a thorough audit .

Indeed-no time ago we had folk saying that they were satisfied that money raised and donated to the club had reached the intended target, and now we discover that the club can't even count.

There is no smoke without fire-it's just as simple as that-it's becoming clearer by the minute that Rae's stewardship of this club has been nothing more than the 'suck it and see' shots in the dark of an egocentric old clown playing with a toy he can't work. He has refused to delegate-he has refused to listen to anybody-he has alienated the fans, and he's skint. Alistair Donald looks more and more like a 'con trick'. To all intents and purposes he does not exist-goodness-he never even pretended he'd spend a penny but was there in an 'advisory capacity'.

One thing's for sure, he tells a good f*cking joke. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-18 17:49:20
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 18 2008, 04:56 PM) [snapback]462036[/snapback]
Alister Donald reminds me of the H G Wells novella the Invisible Man .
I wonder whether we will speak about his disappearance in similar terms as Lord Lucan , Shergar etc unsure.gif

At least they put in a few appearances first! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-18 17:53:55
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Jun 18 2008, 05:33 PM) [snapback]462058[/snapback]
There aren't many of them at first division level, who would you like to see us sign that could fill that role?

I haven't a clue, but please don't tell me there ain't guys in division 2 who can't regularly sling over better crosses than Jimbo and Kev!
mortonjag 2008-06-18 18:08:58
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 18 2008, 04:24 PM) [snapback]462008[/snapback]
Chuffed to f*** laugh.gif , i was standing blethering beside ye on sat ya numpty dry.gif

OH, and everyone is a poufe

Everybody is apparently not! wink.gif

QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 18 2008, 04:37 PM) [snapback]462018[/snapback]
Improper ones are more fun.

The proper ones are far more improper than the improper ones when it comes to proper impropriety.

QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 18 2008, 04:44 PM) [snapback]462024[/snapback]
Aye, you are one also

Ya big Poufe wink.gif

Can we have less of the poufe/pufe/pouffe stuff please. Some folk find the word/s offensive.


I always called my little brown leather footstool a po*ffe-I was taught that it came from some foreign language-now I shall be careful to call it my little brown leather footstool.

'Honey, could you kick over the little brown leather footstool please'?

'What are you on about now you sad old 'homosexual'? Last night it was a pouffe.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 18:15:00
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Jun 18 2008, 06:04 PM) [snapback]462069[/snapback]
There might be a few better crossers, but there aren't many (if any) that can beat defenders like Jim. We've tried and failed with the second division route too often in recent seasons for my liking.

Jimbo's a waste of space unless he cuts inside. He has undoubted potential. He needs a move.

QUOTE(rex manning @ Jun 18 2008, 06:09 PM) [snapback]462072[/snapback]
To be fair to Jim his crossing is probably hampered by the fact he's on the wrong wing.

He shouldn't be on either wing IMO. He was totally wasted by JM's imbecilic and stubborn myopia. Maybe DI will sort it out, but given the signings I'd happilly let Jimbo move on to better things in exchange for a journeyman left winger. While I'm at it, I don't think we should have kept Kev or Stu.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 18:17:37
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Jun 18 2008, 06:11 PM) [snapback]462074[/snapback]
I'm Amused that you find that delightful.

Good
mortonjag 2008-06-18 18:40:44
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Jun 18 2008, 06:28 PM) [snapback]462077[/snapback]
I agree with the part in bold.
Where would you play him?
I can't think of any realistic targets who could fill the left wing role, beat defenders and get crosses in consistently.

I don't really involve myself much in the popular game of who's available etc.,etc. If DI can't find somebody better to play in the left wide role-so be it.

I watched Jimbo about four or five seasons ago playing in the reserves, and at that time he looked comfortable playing right midfield. I think midfield is now arguably our strongest and most competitive area in the squad-that's why I believe a move (if we could even get say 20or 30 grand) would be of mutual benefit to the club and the player.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 18:45:35
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jun 18 2008, 06:39 PM) [snapback]462080[/snapback]
Please do !

If you are going to quote me Scott-please quote the full post. I've replied to your father's pm, and thought the matter was closed.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 18:59:19 It refers to a situation where somebody is so thick as to be totally beyond reason. I have found from experience that, bitter though it may be, it is best to agree with such people and see an end to things.

My first experience was as a young GP. A teenage girl had been using her contraceptive pills wrongly, and was risking unwanted pregnancy. I couldn't believe it as she argued with me, so I took out the BNF and read to her-word for word-the instructions.

I kid you not-she listened, or appeared to listen to it all, before coming out with. 'Well ahm no gonnae change how ahm takin' them-ma big sister's been takin' them that way for three years and she's never fell pregnant'.

You CANNOT make up stories like that-it's been imprinted in my mind for over thirty years. I left the practice not long after that. It's kind of scary to think that she probably now has grown up children with the same attitude.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 19:11:24
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jun 18 2008, 07:08 PM) [snapback]462096[/snapback]
Jeez! Cool your jets auld yin or you'll have a heart attack. On second thoughts .................... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Well Smiffy, he didn't hang around for any flak the first time! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-18 19:19:50
QUOTE(Kaney @ Jun 18 2008, 07:01 PM) [snapback]462092[/snapback]
How was she taking them?
Firing them up the muff?

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To be honest I can't exactly remember-it was something really daft like two weeks on and two weeks off.

I'ts a bit like 'KY Jelly is not a contraceptive'.

If you're daft enough to think it might be, you probably can't read!
mortonjag 2008-06-18 19:28:00
QUOTE(suda @ Jun 18 2008, 06:36 PM) [snapback]462079[/snapback]
Prove it! Have a poll

It's already been done my friend, and Mortonjag was hated by everybody except port-ton and deego-oh and Mortonjag's 23 other aliases.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 19:31:38
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 18 2008, 07:29 PM) [snapback]462106[/snapback]
Jesus...the bar is pretty low already on this forum but FOUR pages of this utter drivel? Really, some you need to get a hold of The Observer Book of British Birds or something and get out the house a bit more.

Plenty of tits on here.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 19:32:53
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 18 2008, 07:27 PM) [snapback]462102[/snapback]
Should you not move this thread to Morton chat ? wink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-06-18 19:43:56
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 18 2008, 07:40 PM) [snapback]462112[/snapback]
What?! ohmy.gif

Get the sperm count checked immediately! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-18 19:54:36
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 18 2008, 07:47 PM) [snapback]462116[/snapback]
Obviously not low enough for you to offer your tuppenswortht. rolleyes.gif

I have never met you in real life, nor you me. I pose a serious question.

Is a poster able to like or dislike another poster, if he/she has not met him/her?

For the record, Mortonjag variably likes/dislikes Cet Homme Charmant.
mortonjag 2008-06-18 19:56:15
QUOTE(Jim Holmes..Best Ever @ Jun 18 2008, 07:52 PM) [snapback]462119[/snapback]
Yes I agree, now can we put an end to it tongue.gif

Nope-the matter will not be settled until I have met you face to face. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-19 06:51:41
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 18 2008, 11:47 PM) [snapback]462337[/snapback]
We have an over supply of teachers. Does that mean they do not deserve to be reasonably remunerated, given the importance of their job?

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mortonjag 2008-06-19 07:20:21 Was it something I said? laugh.gif

I accepted when challenged by Father Gillan that I should retract my utterly 'tongue in cheek' comment and apologise publicly, as I immediately realised that people appeared to be offended, and when people appear to be offended there's very little point in considering the possibility of a hidden agenda.

As Father Gillan appeared on three separate occasions to threaten me with a physical encounter (I was actually a bit terrified when I saw he was a bouncer in Tokyo Joes 30 years ago), Son Gillan was reporting the matter. I think he was correct to do that. I'd have done the same if I felt that my character had been ripped to pieces by some vicious, scurrilous, and blatantly untrue comment from a total stranger.

The Gillans are clearly gentle souls-unused to that kind of verbal assault-I went way over the score, and I'd like to take this opportunity, for the avoidance of any confusion, to state clearly and unequivocally that to the best of my knowledge Scott Gillan is not a pouffe.

I also have every reason to suspect that in sexual persuasion, Scott Gillan is hetero, as opposed to bi, homo, or whatever.

What I have written above is written 'without prejudice'. If any of it appears offensive, may I apologise in advance. Mortonjag only wants to be everybody's friend.



mortonjag 2008-06-19 07:54:52



QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Jun 18 2008, 10:02 PM) [snapback]462187[/snapback]
Only someone with the true interests of Morton a heart would do that. This is MJ we're talking about.

That is offensive, and defamatory. I tend to ignore such behaviour 'for what it's worth', but this is SUPPOSED to be a serious thread about a serious issue, and it appears to me that those who are currently 'poo pooing' the enquirers, may THINK they have the true interest of Morton at heart while actually hampering the uncovering of the truth. If you wish to repeat that sort of comment, I strongly advise you to make it clear that you are merely stating opinion.

QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Jun 18 2008, 10:05 PM) [snapback]462188[/snapback]
Danny, Alistair Donald is still a non-Exec Director of Morton FC. Nothing has changed, despite MJ's best efforts to suggest otherwise. As an ex-civil servant, I can assure you that Companies House is as efficient as the Home Office in their keeping records up-to-date. smile.gif

..and as a mere layman I can assure you that until I get Companies House's side of the story I'll continue to state that Donald is not legally a Director of GMFC at the time of a 1 to 2 million share issue.

QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 18 2008, 11:08 PM) [snapback]462265[/snapback]
It may or may not be the company secretary who lodges forms. They can be lodged by anyone and its often the company's accountants who do the business - the point is though, the director in question has to sign the form giving his consent to act as a director.

This whole thing is being blown out of proportion. OK maybe the guy is not yet formally a director and maybe that has something to do with the present share issue. That does not mean he can't attend board meetings and give his input. The only thing he can't do is vote at such meetings which to be honest is not a big issue.

I suggest people don't allow MJ to wind them up over what is a nothing issue, even if it turns out to be an administrative error. I promise you that no one at company's house will care very much!! Its hardly a hanging offence!

Shareholders or alternatively the trust on behalf of trust members can write to the company secretary and ask what the position is. Legally shareholders are entitled to an answer. Whether they i.e. the shareholders and/or the trust choose to share it with us is up to them. The non shareholding fan has no more right to that information than you have to know about what the senior people at Tesco earn because you are a customer - in fact less right because Morton are a private as opposed to public company.

I suspect we have already seen the colour of Mr Donald's money. Wages for players are higher this year to enable us to attract better quality. I wonder where that is coming from?

That statement is typical of your increasingly tiresome 'know it all' attitude to everything financial. You are a mere town accountant-not bloody Nostradamus. FFS you knee jerked the same way in defence of David Elliot and ended up kickin' his baws! Only two days ago you were describing Rae in glowing terms alongside Donald-'Respectable businessmen you called them', announcing later that 'you know virtually nothing about Rae. Would you know Alistair Donald if he popped out of your Rice Krispies? rolleyes.gif



QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 19 2008, 02:04 AM) [snapback]462600[/snapback]
Surely if there is to be a share issue then it is rather important that those possible investors know and have the necessary documentation of who the directors are ?
I don't see how you can defend the club for keeping admin costs low while there are obvious problems such as this and the direct debit issue .
I honestly can't see how you can defend the club heirachy when you say it is being propped up by Golden Casket to the annual sum of 400k .
Even if we get the 2 million from the share issue you know that building costs will be higher and the true cost of such upgrading is guess work .
We still would have no gaurentee on achieving SPL status or that any tv money would be the same .
I thought you would be striving for the club to be run with the intention financial independance or as close as we could .

Tonsilitis's position on this is utterly despicable, and folk accuse ME of not having the Club's interests at heart.

Despicable because when it suits him he's an absolute stickler for the letter of the law (remember comments to my friend Big Doc 1874), yet he is happy to dismiss what is at very least total incompetence as 'just one of those things'.

Companies house has Arthur Montford's and Ian Brown's resignations documented. Donald has 'been a director' for five months, and notifications are required within 14 days. OK-if the club acted appropriately back in January, why have they not checked the listing with a share issue pending?

Until the matter is clarified, none of us is entitled to jump to conclusions. We are , however, morally bound to ask questions if we have misgivings about the running of the club.
mortonjag 2008-06-19 08:05:34
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 19 2008, 05:51 AM) [snapback]462653[/snapback]
Does DDFR pay for his season ticket ?

If he does not, do all shareholders get a free season ticket ?

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Mr Rae is Chairman of the club. Rest assured, if Mr Rae has decided that Mr Rae should pay for Mr Rae's season tickets, Mr Rae will pay for them.

Mr Rae likes his commands to be obeyed to the letter.
mortonjag 2008-06-19 08:08:32
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 19 2008, 08:06 AM) [snapback]462661[/snapback]
Gidday Teacher Tom,

and how many Latin scholars do we have ?

You, Cicero and mortonjag ?

Could/should you not have posted in Zwahili ?

Not when he's sitting havin' a keech in the Mearns.
mortonjag 2008-06-19 08:17:40
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 19 2008, 01:10 AM) [snapback]462526[/snapback]
The thing is though, some folk on here were born wrapped in it, and still live in it

Sadly that is true-and will die in it, and be buried in it, and will complain that the worms are saying all manner of evil against them.
mortonjag 2008-06-19 09:12:21
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 19 2008, 08:42 AM) [snapback]462677[/snapback]
he whose name we may not mention.

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mortonjag 2008-06-19 09:16:23
QUOTE(irvineTON @ Jun 19 2008, 09:10 AM) [snapback]462688[/snapback]
I am also a frequent sufferer of the damn things. sad.gif I have been told that it is also something to do with a lack of Iron in the body and was recommended to take tablets called L-Lysine (Get them in Holland & Barrett) as this builds up a defence & I can honestly say I have had them less frequent since popping these pills. When I get one tho I treat it with Blistex Cold sore Gel & Immitation Aftershave from Greece wink.gif . Its the best medication that I have came across, I hate Zovirax as it keeps the coldsore soft, which delays the healing process.

Not the case. Having said that if you're buying stuff that works good luck.
mortonjag 2008-06-19 09:21:05 Depends what's meant by 'hard'. For his height George Anderson's achievements at centre half were outstanding. Hannibal was a tough customer, as was Johnny Boyd before him-Stan Rankin-Jim Duffy etc.

Actually NOBODY was harder than Bobby Collins-he'd have felled Tyson and stood at about 5' 4".
mortonjag 2008-06-19 09:58:11
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 19 2008, 09:44 AM) [snapback]462711[/snapback]
Well said, MJ. I don't understand why people are trying to mitigate for this.

Still, Tonsilitis got one thing right: Companies House aren't going to care at all. Nobody's going to jail, nobody's going to even get a fine. In that sense it's a non-issue, but in terms of the running of our club (i.e. the important part) this remains very worrying.

I don't want the club losing more money, and contrary to some posters' opinions, I have not 'reported' the club. Companies House exists to regulate the running of businesses and has a responsibility to keep the public reliably informed. It may very well be that they are the culprits if indeed there IS misinformation. I have asked them to reassure me that their published information is up to date and have been promised a reply by this afternoon.
mortonjag 2008-06-19 10:04:22
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 19 2008, 09:16 AM) [snapback]462695[/snapback]
Is CHC invited ?

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Everybody's invited and we're going to have a gay old time!
mortonjag 2008-06-19 10:15:02
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 19 2008, 09:39 AM) [snapback]462707[/snapback]
Is that Volare by the Gypsy Kings? tongue.gif

PS There is something deeply uncomfortable about this poll. No double entendres intended. It is like a forum for a bunch of raging homophobes.

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Which is quite different from rampant.


"Daffodils" (1804)

I WANDER'D lonely as a cloud

That floats on high o'er vales and hills,

When all at once I saw a crowd,

A host, of golden daffodils;

Beside the lake, beneath the trees,
Fluttering and dancing in the breeze.

Continuous as the stars that shine

And twinkle on the Milky Way,

They stretch'd in never-ending line

Along the margin of a bay:

Ten thousand saw I at a glance,
Tossing their heads in sprightly dance.

The waves beside them danced; but they

Out-did the sparkling waves in glee:

A poet could not but be gay,

In such a jocund company:

I gazed -- and gazed -- but little thought
What wealth the show to me had brought:

For oft, when on my pouffe I lie

In vacant or in pensive mood,

They flash upon that inward eye

Which is the bliss of solitude;

And then my heart with pleasure fills,
And dances with the daffodils.

By William Wordsworth (1770-1850)



mortonjag 2008-06-19 10:24:40
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 19 2008, 10:06 AM) [snapback]462729[/snapback]
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Good man, though while I concede the language may have been foul I would dispute it was threatening.

I trust you've also reported Redsockbluehoops' personal abuse to me, or are you as I suspect being selective in your indignation as usual. tongue.gif

Just a thought Johnny boy and the other MJphiles......... don't you think you're taking this whole thing just a wee tad too seriously?

There are people dying in their world in their tens of thousands every day from war, starvation and preventable diseases. Even closer to home hundreds of people were diagnosed with cancer yesterday and the same number will be diagnosed today and tomorrow. And you're gettting all high and mighty and your self-rightous knickers in a twist over a potty mouthed old man getting a 3 day ban from a football messageboard. I mean, c'moan tae f***, in the greater scheme of things it's pretty trivial is it not? rolleyes.gif

Tell you what Johnny boy, you must have a really cushy life to get so wound up about something as trivial as this. I envy you for that, I really do.

Have a word with yourself though, eh. wink.gif

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Seems some people never learn-I cannot respond to that in the light hearted way I would normally do. Despite what has happened you choose to have a wee vicious kick. Am I allowed to say that I won't report what is ageist and offensive, and in return hope I'm allowed to suggest that you are an extremely unpleasant person.
mortonjag 2008-06-19 10:30:52
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jun 19 2008, 10:29 AM) [snapback]462748[/snapback]
im what? blink.gif

royalty
mortonjag 2008-06-19 10:48:41
QUOTE(dazed @ Jun 19 2008, 10:37 AM) [snapback]462755[/snapback]
confusion reigns with the sovereign! biggrin.gif

dazed 'n' confused
mortonjag 2008-06-19 10:57:09
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jun 19 2008, 10:34 AM) [snapback]462751[/snapback]
Option one. Apologising for something is just an acceptance that you did wrong, and If someone took offence to it then it should be dealt with.

I know you have me on ignore so you won't read this but apologising is done for many reasons and would NEVER be taken in a court of law as proof of any kind of guilt. How often have you collided with somebody in a busy store and automatically said 'Sorry'-irrespective of 'guilt' and without really bothering to work out who-if anybody-had the right of way?

'Sorry' can be the most pragmatic word in some situations-the kindest word in others-it makes people feel better and helps to defuse explosions, or of course it can express genuine apology-so SORRY-but, as almost always with your views on Mortonjag, you are wrong.

mortonjag 2008-06-19 11:08:25
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 19 2008, 10:54 AM) [snapback]462767[/snapback]
Yip, he has, but I for one won't criticise him for that, otherwise you're being dragged down to the level of the MJphiles.

The fact is Edinton and the Mods give a lot of time and effort to provide this free service for all of us. Often they're put in impossible situations and have to make a decision which will please some and outrage others. I really think the abuse Tontastic took last night was way out of order and I hope that some people who may now have cooled down a little bit are ashamed at the way they reacted last night.

Tontastic didn't deserve that, and I hope some folk on here have the baws now to admit that and apologise to him.

I won't be holding my breath though.

I've had a civilised pm from tontastic and have replied in a civilised way-I hope we've found some common ground on this.

One thing is for sure, neither Edinton, nor Tontastic is lacking in perception, and both are well acquainted with your previous behaviour in respect of complaints.

I just hope they both have a pocketful of anti-emetics when they read what I regard as sycophantic sh1te which you have just posted-oh and they might clock your previous comment about a 'potty mouthed old man' too.

If they are to be believed, they are genuinely trying to stamp out abuse, and you think you can score cheap points on the rebound. I could call you lots of things which would be true, but I mustn't.
mortonjag 2008-06-19 11:11:29
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 19 2008, 11:05 AM) [snapback]462781[/snapback]
Nonagenarian

Innumerate
mortonjag 2008-06-19 11:14:00
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Jun 19 2008, 11:03 AM) [snapback]462779[/snapback]
Am i the only one that is annoyed that every time i open up the msg board i see another topic about this Mortonjag guy?? Who gives a s*** about the old idiot....




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mortonjag 2008-06-19 11:15:39
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 19 2008, 10:23 AM) [snapback]462737[/snapback]
May we dry it for you ?

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I thought you'd sold the flame thrower
mortonjag 2008-06-19 11:23:07 Keek! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-19 11:39:57
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Jun 19 2008, 11:37 AM) [snapback]462804[/snapback]
Haha a wee bit too far, i just can't understand why there are so many topics made up for you.

Quite sad really unsure.gif

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By the way every time I see your avatar it makes me think of C*C
mortonjag 2008-06-19 11:43:31
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 19 2008, 11:38 AM) [snapback]462806[/snapback]
Must be some view you have from that high horse of yours Johnny boy. laugh.gif

Perspective is indeed strange. Johnny Boy's horse looks quite like a Shetland Pony to me.
mortonjag 2008-06-19 11:48:08
C F G
Step we gaily on we go, heel for heel and toe for toe
C F G
Arm in arm and row in row, all for Mairi's wedding

Over hillways up and down, myrtle green and bracken brown
Past the sheiling throuigh the town, all for the sake of Mairi.

Chorus:

Brighter cheeks as rowans are, brighter eye as any star
The fairest of them all by far is our darling Mairi

Chorus:

Plenty herring, plenty meal, plenty peat to fill her creel
Plenty bonny bairns as weel, that's the toast for Mairi

Chorus (2x):
mortonjag 2008-06-19 11:53:57
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jun 19 2008, 11:25 AM) [snapback]462802[/snapback]
Keek yourself...altho at your age you probably do! (little smiley thing for being reported to the mods!)

Do you know how young I am Dave-in man years-not Donkey's ages?
mortonjag 2008-06-19 14:17:46
QUOTE(Jamie_M @ Jun 19 2008, 12:30 PM) [snapback]462841[/snapback]
I can categorically state for the record that Dougie does pay for his season ticket - he's that type of chairman, in with the common guy paying like the rest of us. Also, to keep with the times he decided he should be all hip, up to date and modern and pay by standing order.

It's not his fault that due to his advancing years and a little bit of dementia setting in that he accidentally forgets one of the numbers on his account, writes the wrong one and claims a free season ticket....

Well who could blame you for questioning that possibility-or wait-are you Shoogly's psychiatrist? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-19 14:32:29


QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 19 2008, 11:51 AM) [snapback]462822[/snapback]
Certainly not Newt, Group hugs are for sodomites. wink.gif

I wouldn't touch them with a clothes peg and as for thae pouffes-I wouldn't give them house room.

QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 19 2008, 01:59 PM) [snapback]462907[/snapback]
Is that a low key admission of homosexuality?

quite possibly-I have always believed in welcoming the unexpected.
mortonjag 2008-06-19 14:36:20
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Jun 19 2008, 12:36 PM) [snapback]462848[/snapback]
Haha what a sad little man you are...

Newt is neither sad nor little-he's 6'9 and as manic as a March hare on Speed.
mortonjag 2008-06-19 15:06:03 If Dundee want Innes enough I'd imagine they'll call the agent's bluff and up the offer a wee bit.

Allegiance to DI won't be enough on its own.
mortonjag 2008-06-19 15:09:10
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 19 2008, 02:41 PM) [snapback]462934[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDQuestion is Spurtle-would you shag him?
mortonjag 2008-06-19 15:22:29
QUOTE(Jamie_M @ Jun 19 2008, 02:59 PM) [snapback]462937[/snapback]
Yes. I am Dougie's Psychiatrist. He calls me Bob. I know it's not my name but I let him away with it. He's old and forgetful.

Yeah the signs are there that his mental state is not quite what it was. The first warning sign for me was when he told me he wanted to use his hard earned money to save the club he loves with no probable return. I told him he was mad to even consider it but he just said 'look bob, this is something i'm going to have to do. After that i'll spend more money on players and renovating the stadium because I want to. Not because i'll get this money back just because I want to move this team forward'

'Ok Dougie, you mad old gowk, go for it on your own head be it. You know you'll get pelters when you don't spend even more, or due to forgetfulness you put the kettle on instead of updating the official site, or like a lot of other excitable fans with a bit of information you let the cat out of the bag about a signing target before the deal is done and someone might sneak in and scupper the deal but you can handle all that, or better still just forget they've even given you pelters in the first place.'

Dementia? Keeping Chairmen sane is 1804....

Dr Bob, is the patient's condition stable or deteriorating? What treatment have you prescribed.? Do you envisage a course of CBT or would ECT be more appropriate? Most importantly, how do you see the prognosis?
mortonjag 2008-06-19 16:05:03
QUOTE(Jamie_M @ Jun 19 2008, 03:50 PM) [snapback]462966[/snapback]
Dougie's condition is stable. Dementia doesn't affect the cheery old men as badly as the grumpy ones so treatment at this time is minimal. Which brings me to my next diagnosis.

Mr Jag - you may be struggling to recall, but just in my last post I detailled that my name isn't actually Dr Bob. That's just what Dougie calls me. This is also backed up by my username - my actual name.

Forgetfulness? Lack of comprehension? Mr Jag I do believe I am spotting the signs of dementia setting in. Thank goodness we caught this soon. In someone with such a dour faced, grumpy, moany nature as yourself dementia can take hold really quickly and the effects can be severe. We need to schedule some treatment for you right away. Never mind CBT - I think most of the 'doctors' on the board would prescribe you an extensive period of GTF.

The alternative route would be ECT. As my clinic is of a voluntary nature - we rely heavily on voluntary workers to allow us to carry out our full service. Are there any budding helpers out there who would be willing to give up some time to help deliver the electric shocks to the Jag?

Dr Jamie M,

My name is actually Dr Jag, and I have reason to suspect that you are masquerading as a member of the Royal College of Psychiatrists. I have a simple task for you to perform. Either tell me the most common unwanted effect of cannabis smoking, or display a photograph of your credentials for inspection by my personal assistant Slobodan Manobyavic..

signed Hardup Jag M.B.,Ch.B., MRCPsch.
mortonjag 2008-06-19 16:11:57
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 19 2008, 04:02 PM) [snapback]462977[/snapback]
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Got to me. Just look how I dealt with Scott Gillan laugh.gif

Any word from Father Gillan?
mortonjag 2008-06-19 16:16:26
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 19 2008, 03:30 PM) [snapback]462948[/snapback]
Are you insinuating I'm a pouffe ?

Do you have a father?
mortonjag 2008-06-19 16:23:23 pair of f*cking comedians
mortonjag 2008-06-19 16:48:56
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 19 2008, 04:33 PM) [snapback]463015[/snapback]
You my friend are a pompous windbag of the first order. You seem to think that dishing insults is the way to respond any response which even slightly contradicts your position. I may be 'just a town accountant' but I'm a qualified one with a lot more experience of corporate affairs than any doctor. You really don't like it when you come across someone who knows more about any particular subject than you, do you?

As for my attitude towards the club's interests might I suggest that if mine is despicable, yours completely stinks with your crusade against Douglas Rae and rubbishing of anything the club tries to do. You don't know why Alistair Donald's not listed at companies house and it may have a perfectly acceptable explanation such as being related to the current share issue. Even if it is a c*** up, you are not entitled to know unless you are a shareholder - are you?You can't accept not knowing can you? It would not suit your private agenda which none of us other than your wee PM clique are privy to.

You are a sh1t stirrer of the first magnitude. I'm not even going to dignify your other comments with a reply. Suffice to say that your twisted interpretation of some of my posts is way, way off beam.

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mortonjag 2008-06-19 16:57:56
QUOTE(Jamie_M @ Jun 19 2008, 04:37 PM) [snapback]463025[/snapback]
At no point in my previous posts did I state that I was a member of the Royal College of Psychiatrists nor did I masquerade as such. Complementary and voluntary medicine is perfectly legal and does not have to be affiliated with such an organisation. Without the technology to upload my credentials, I will take a shot at answering your qualifying exam question.
The most common unwanted effect of cannabis smoking?

As cannabis is still classed as an illegal drug, the majority of cannabis use is not recorded. As a result there can be no way to decipher which is officially the 'most common' unwanted effect of cannabis smoking.

Fortunately, I do have some input to give on the subject. From my own intensive research as documented in my PHD (unfinished) - 'Woah - This s***'s screwing me up, man!', after deep research into cannabis, it's use and it's effects - I found 4 extremely common unwanted effects of cannabis smoking.

1. Procrastination, lack of motivation, and chilling syndrome. This effects leads to cannabis users sitting around doing very little and failing to get on with any tasks they may have scheduled - including household chores, shopping or finishing your PHD.

2. Extreme skintness syndrome. Extensive cannabis use can lead to this condition where the effects are primarily felt around the pocket and the wallet. This condition is extremely contageous. As a result, skintness syndrome may extend to your immediate family, friends and any service provider who you fail to pay as a result of your skintness.

3. The dreaded whiteo. Excessive cannabis use can lead to the dreaded whiteo, one of the worst conditions caused by cannabis use. Knock on effects of the whiteo can leave you feeling sick but can also leave you looking a fool in front of your non-whiteoing cannabis buddies.

4. The killer munchies. Possibly the effect with the most intense short term effect. A serious hit of the munchies can leave you feeling frustrated, anxious and downright starving. This condition is most severe when combined with Skintness syndrome AND Procrastination, Lack of Motivation and Chilling syndrome - as both of these conditions can prevent you from achieving a short term fix for the munchies.

A superby researched, and well documented response Dr Jamie M, though had you been a real psychiatrist you'd have instantly declared minor paranoid psychosis, often leading if untreated to full blown schizophrenia.

Atypical paranoia, is of course by no means limited to cannabis users-it is not infrequently found in rather intense anally retentive personalities-librarians,computer programmers and accountants being three professions in which the condition is not uncommonly noted.
mortonjag 2008-06-19 17:06:07
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jun 19 2008, 05:01 PM) [snapback]463045[/snapback]
Best post on here so far, and none of the boring, wee-boy name-calling that most of the rest do (AND most of MJ's do if someone disagrees with him).

The auld duffer is just tiresome and totally obnoxious when anyone dares to disagree with him or question him. I've got him on "ignore" but it'll be a pleasure not to even see him quoted so much as I skim down the threads.

Bliss. biggrin.gif

Most repetitive quote of the year!
mortonjag 2008-06-19 17:08:26
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 19 2008, 05:06 PM) [snapback]463053[/snapback]
[codebox]You are correct. I was rude and petty to insult you and for the time
being, I have nothing more worthwhile to say on this matter.[/codebox]

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mortonjag 2008-06-19 17:15:33
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 19 2008, 05:13 PM) [snapback]463065[/snapback]
CODE
You are correct sir

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mortonjag 2008-06-19 17:20:11
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jun 19 2008, 04:23 PM) [snapback]463001[/snapback]
lol I believe I just fell over here trying to be fancy when I should have just had a shot
Yeah he would probs laugh as WeegieTon is a friend of both me and my dad so we dont mind a but of banter with him , Its when people I dont know or like throw up random insults after being warned by mods about doing it

A few hours of quiet was bliss last night hopefully many more to follow

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Didn't the 'Mods' speak to you and dad last night?
mortonjag 2008-06-19 17:25:18
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 19 2008, 05:10 PM) [snapback]463063[/snapback]
true, i think a lot of people needed that last night...there was a lot of built up frustration over the last few weeks, everyone seems much happier today smile.gif

Mye dadie cride hymn selph two slepe-itt wozint verie phunnie phawr hymn


(sined Munx)
mortonjag 2008-06-19 20:51:00
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jun 19 2008, 08:40 PM) [snapback]463241[/snapback]
Sounds just like MJ. The guy's an ar*e and if you can't see that then you're as bad as him. mad.gif


Will the mods see this? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-19 20:55:20
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jun 19 2008, 08:47 PM) [snapback]463248[/snapback]
your question, yes we did and we werent the only ones, and again i will NOT post or PM anyone with details nor will i remove any of my post unless directed to by a mod. No, enough is enough with this s***, YOU post that neither you or any male member of your close family have EVER partaken in a 'violent' action and i will issue an apology to you all in big letters and i will 'ban' myself from posting on this forum for the 3 days that mortonjag was supposed to have been given for calling you the 'p' word. How is that for fairness ?



you have been very bold in a lot of things you have said and in my opinion got away with to much sometimes ...

But you will NOT !!! and I repeat WILL NOT !!! make any slurs regarding my family i do noy know who you are but will this season make it a point of meeting you face to face to reoeat what ive written here and on the website fun is fun but saying something about someones sexuality is way over the top ...

So Sir I repeat talking about myself and any of my family is now out of bounds to you ..

Pat G


mortonjag 2008-06-19 21:06:19
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jun 19 2008, 06:13 PM) [snapback]463100[/snapback]
Well that certainly shot up all the know-it-alls on this subject. Your analysis is spot on and reconciles with my own experiences - both personal and business-related. wink.gif

SHOOGLY IS VINDICATED--BRAVO
mortonjag 2008-06-19 21:08:53
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 19 2008, 06:25 PM) [snapback]463110[/snapback]
F**k, F**k, F**K. How can a guy be expected to stay mad when you see the last 5/6 posts!!!

Barstewards !! rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2008-06-19 21:14:05
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jun 19 2008, 05:34 PM) [snapback]463076[/snapback]
The mods spoke to me to inform me that you had been banned , They also informed me they didnt percieve what my dad had said as a threat.

They did post on the other hand "How many times do you have to tell a grown man not to do something before he takes the hint?"

Care to answer that question ?

You are of course as entitled as anyone to protection from threats & abuse, I've sent a message to Pat/Scott to ensure that posts aimed at you which might be interpreted as threating should not be repeated.
mortonjag 2008-06-19 21:18:13
QUOTE(Savo @ Jun 19 2008, 07:30 PM) [snapback]463184[/snapback]
Mutual benefit? To lose our best player - never mind midfielder - for £20,000? You're having a giraffe. I'd be pretty sure, in fact almost certain, that one of his principal suitors, Mark McGhee, wouldn't even insult the boy (never mind the club) with such a derisory offer. He is much more highly rated than that.

If he was that effin brilliant he'd be gone-simple.
mortonjag 2008-06-19 21:21:26
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Jun 19 2008, 07:26 PM) [snapback]463174[/snapback]
Why not? We just gave 2 years to a 33 year old. There are plenty defenders who play very well at this level well into their 30s. Experienced heads around the club is something we have been lacking recently.

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QUOTE(steveoath @ Jun 19 2008, 07:28 PM) [snapback]463179[/snapback]
The only reason the "saga" has been dragging on is pure speculation. IIRC Morton haven't came out and said they are chasing the player have they? Add to that the fact that D.I. is away and we won't likely see any movement in the market until his return.

Steve

Cat's away-agents play.
mortonjag 2008-06-19 21:37:45 Everybody loves Mortonjag-it's just one of those homme fatal things.

It's understandable, and actually rather sweet that the spurned are variously vituperative.

Only deego and port-ton have experienced the balmy bliss of an evening on Mortonjag's balcony.
mortonjag 2008-06-19 22:00:38
QUOTE(Patg @ Jun 19 2008, 09:48 PM) [snapback]463304[/snapback]
Ok still hiding but thats youre choice no I and my kids have never taken part in a violent act at the football ..

But do re-call stopping another member of this board commiting an act of violence in the cowshed both Scott and myself spoke to said member and the police and the incident was closed I haave shouted and bawled at people who I dont agree with but never came to blows even shouted at our last management team then apoligised to both of them a few weeks later ..

So please enlighten me when I have lifted my fists and struck any blows or any of my family has then we can all go to bed enlightened and happy ..

Pat G

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QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 19 2008, 09:51 PM) [snapback]463306[/snapback]
are there any mods around?

why on earth is this stuff allowed?

Edinton: you need to restate the forum rules

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Trumpet you are a pouffe

QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jun 19 2008, 09:54 PM) [snapback]463308[/snapback]
I'm confused about sexuality....
are any of the gillans gay or is it just talk!

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yesterday I'd have said it was just talk
mortonjag 2008-06-19 22:02:39
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 19 2008, 09:57 PM) [snapback]463311[/snapback]
Booooring!

Poofs the lot of you, apart from JonaTon.

JONATON IS


not



A POUFFE
mortonjag 2008-06-19 22:06:07
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 19 2008, 10:02 PM) [snapback]463316[/snapback]
i don't think this is what greenockmorton.org should be used for, funny though it undoubtedly is laugh.gif

Well f*** YOU YA POUFFE
mortonjag 2008-06-19 22:13:09
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jun 19 2008, 10:05 PM) [snapback]463318[/snapback]
I have now posted, and deleted - a concrete incident twice Pat. But in the spirit (sic) of the board I have deleted them. I'll happily walk you through them though when I see you next if you're still interested. And for anyone who knows me, that is said in a completely non-threatening "over a pint and chewing the cud" manner, not in any other context.

TonInDublin

Effin oirish COW

QUOTE(Youngsa @ Jun 19 2008, 10:05 PM) [snapback]463319[/snapback]
Nail firmly hit on the head there TiD. Some folk have lost what little credibility they had left with this nonsense.

As for the mods - if this is what gets you a 3 day ban after some of the s*** spouted on here by others then you ought to chuck it.

Absolute disgrace sad.gif

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QUOTE(Patg @ Jun 19 2008, 10:06 PM) [snapback]463320[/snapback]
And what does the mj say then

Mee maw-mee maw-mee maw

QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 19 2008, 10:07 PM) [snapback]463324[/snapback]
Woooooooooo!

Another night of reading this thread.

Even with the jag about it's still a crecker!

POUFFE
mortonjag 2008-06-19 22:16:19
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 19 2008, 10:14 PM) [snapback]463336[/snapback]
****!

POUFFE
mortonjag 2008-06-19 22:24:57
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 19 2008, 10:06 PM) [snapback]463322[/snapback]
I wasn't born, I was knitted tongue.gif

I know you like this MJ

Spurtle-you are awful-but I like you!
mortonjag 2008-06-19 22:30:07
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jun 19 2008, 10:23 PM) [snapback]463351[/snapback]
PEOPLE OF ALL SIZES WELCOME THE NEWS THAT MJ IS BACK AND URGE DOROTHY TO GO TELL CHC THE NEWS ...


When are you gonna come down
When are you going to land
I should have stayed on the farm
I should have listened to my old man


You know you can't hold me forever
I didn't sign up with you
I'm not a present for your friends to open
This boy's too young to be singing the blues

So goodbye yellow brick road
Where the dogs of society howl
You can't plant me in your penthouse
I'm going back to my plough

Back to the howling old owl in the woods
Hunting the horny back toad
Oh I've finally decided my future lies
Beyond the yellow brick road

What do you think you'll do then
I bet that'll shoot down your plane
It'll take you a couple of vodka and tonics
To set you on your feet again

Maybe you'll get a replacement
There's plenty like me to be found
Mongrels who ain't got a penny
Sniffing for tidbits like you on the ground
mortonjag 2008-06-19 22:35:44
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jun 19 2008, 10:16 PM) [snapback]463339[/snapback]
Okay get this, Big Doc is what they call me, im hiding nothing. Now you have been a bouncer but never hit ANYONE ???? c'mon Pat get a bit of reality here, i wasnt the one who posted that i was non-violent, far from it i spent 10 years in the Army but then im big enough and honest enough not to put myself on a pedestal and not to admit to having the odd scrap or two, i never came on here this evening to start hassling people, i never called anyone a liar and i haven't threatened anyone, and i repeat, i will not discuss the incident, on here or by pm with you or anyone else for that matter so if that makes me a liar then so be it, i will not lose any sleep over it as i know i have kept my dignity intact tonight ( for a change wink.gif )

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QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 19 2008, 10:23 PM) [snapback]463350[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED
mortonjag 2008-06-19 22:38:51
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 19 2008, 10:36 PM) [snapback]463363[/snapback]
Ronaldo finally hears the news that MJ is back after being stuck away from the world news in switzerland

RONALDO IS A POUFFE
mortonjag 2008-06-19 22:45:45
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jun 19 2008, 09:57 PM) [snapback]463310[/snapback]
old age is compulsory - growing up is not!

Hmm-not very funny if you die of cancer at 21, but I take your point.
mortonjag 2008-06-19 22:56:15
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 19 2008, 10:43 PM) [snapback]463373[/snapback]
This is well off topic, but I just got a new dog and called him Oozy. True story.

Perpetually pished poster Boozy
has purchased a puppy called 'Oozy'
perhaps it's a pouffe
with a gay little'woof'
(although I suspect it will deny it vigorously)
and will shag other dogs when they're woozy
mortonjag 2008-06-19 23:00:36
QUOTE(Waverley @ Jun 19 2008, 10:47 PM) [snapback]463383[/snapback]
Guys from the 60's would include; Johnny Boyd, Jim Reilly, Stan Rankin, Jon Madsen, Eric Smith.

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mortonjag 2008-06-19 23:05:45
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jun 19 2008, 10:53 PM) [snapback]463392[/snapback]
Claire:
why dnt u f***in grow up and act ur age!!!

yeah im the one with the problem blink.gif

See thae effin wummin-they're all pouffes
mortonjag 2008-06-19 23:13:05
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 19 2008, 11:03 PM) [snapback]463419[/snapback]
Maybe you won't get in unless you roll up your right trooser leg and flash your left tit.

I'm sorry?

What a despicably sexist remark.

Mr Edwards-from now on I cannot ever regard you in the same light. I had a mind to report you to the big Mod- I MEAN IT-not wee Brian, or festivaly frustrated Edinton-the BIG Mod-but I felt that might further your cause.

Shame on you.

Feel a right tit.
mortonjag 2008-06-19 23:19:10
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 19 2008, 11:10 PM) [snapback]463431[/snapback]
If it has anything to do with understanding people. You two will be top of the list smile.gif

LL I'm getting a bit tired of your clever sayings-not only have I come to the conclusion that you're sexist but you're obviously a POUFFE.

I'm not a lesbian-my girlfriend is-aye right! laugh.gif

pee ess----do you know the definition of gillania?
mortonjag 2008-06-19 23:27:55
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 19 2008, 10:58 PM) [snapback]463408[/snapback]
funny seeing as I have saw your c*** more than any other guys! tongue.gif

Puggs-your University degree shines through your every post. Fing approves. Munx sez fing izza prik

QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jun 19 2008, 11:21 PM) [snapback]463444[/snapback]
wink.gif
I can't help but think the tiny 'not' was intentional. laugh.gif

I'm beginning to think we're all pouffes-where are those Gillan chaps-the nightclub bouncer wallahs-surely this night is still young!
mortonjag 2008-06-19 23:34:43
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 19 2008, 11:29 PM) [snapback]463457[/snapback]
Good thing I got my dissertation proof read then eh wink.gif

Indeed-mind you Tonsilitis can't spell either, and he keeps reminding us he's stinkin' rich.
mortonjag 2008-06-19 23:41:32
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 19 2008, 11:30 PM) [snapback]463460[/snapback]
We've got all that keech here already haven't we? What's the point of having another receptacle?

Only a POUFFE would use that term
mortonjag 2008-06-19 23:48:45
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 19 2008, 11:37 PM) [snapback]463469[/snapback]
And you can spell and keep doing the same wink.gif

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Mortonjag is in straitened circumstances-do not be fooled by the bravado-the Gillans could buy and sell him I'd imagine-and they are NOT



POUFFES
mortonjag 2008-06-19 23:52:05
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 19 2008, 11:48 PM) [snapback]463485[/snapback]
Not for the poofs! We're They're always happy!

C'est vraie mon peti chou chou!
mortonjag 2008-06-19 23:55:07
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 19 2008, 11:45 PM) [snapback]463482[/snapback]
You're the one that's fond of pink.

I effin hate pink-it reminds me of thae pouffes
mortonjag 2008-06-19 23:58:49
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 19 2008, 11:54 PM) [snapback]463499[/snapback]
Why ?

and is that a **** or **** or a **** ?



I'm wearying of all this crap. I suspect GILLANIA is about to rule the world-POUFFES take note.
mortonjag 2008-06-20 00:02:27 Cretins never never never shall behave.
mortonjag 2008-06-20 00:06:15
QUOTE(Pedro_c @ Jun 19 2008, 11:53 PM) [snapback]463498[/snapback]
Pat,

You don't know me but I remember you. I was 18, your mate came in to a pub and butted and then punched my mate, who strangely enough you are now mates with I think. He takes the money on your supporters bus.

I was in Coopers bar in Central Station, it has now changed its name, before a game in a Euro 1996 qualifying game , I think it was against Greece. I tried to get him to stop, verbally, because you lot would have made pancakes out of me, and you said to me, and I remember this clearly, "If you don't shut it you're next", so don't come over with all this innocent nonsense. Yes, it was a long time ago, and frankly I couldn't give a toss anymore but I just wanted to point out that you're no angel yourself. This is fact and I can get my mate to remind you of it.

And if someone honestly gets upset by being called a ****, then they really need to get a life.

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mortonjag 2008-06-20 00:20:00
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 20 2008, 12:09 AM) [snapback]463526[/snapback]
Only 21 pages so far.

You're way off Scott.

I think the poor chap is suffering from withdrawal symptoms. Sad really-all that effort from someone who to me at least, is a mere child.

Twenty four hours ago I'd never have imagined that his father had-if accounts are to be credited- been an indiscriminate nightclub bouncer. Until very recently I was prepared to see him as a simple and winsome soul-the epitome of decorum and gentleness.

Funny old world.
mortonjag 2008-06-20 00:28:07
QUOTE(irvineTON @ Jun 19 2008, 11:18 PM) [snapback]463440[/snapback]
Everyone loves irvineTON. ph34r.gif

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QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jun 20 2008, 12:18 AM) [snapback]463543[/snapback]
Mortonjag, for example?

Mortonjag is a POUFFE.
mortonjag 2008-06-20 00:32:46
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jun 20 2008, 12:30 AM) [snapback]463567[/snapback]
If you believe I'm a liar how do you know I was telling the truth about being a liar? I could have lied about that. But then that would prove that I was a liar and so I'd have been telling the truth. But then that's wrong 'cause I'd have lied about being a liar because I wasn't

Didn't think about that, did you? F*cking idiot.

Tremendous poster my sweaty, hairy nipples.

Rule Gillania.
mortonjag 2008-06-20 00:35:35 unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-20 00:39:06
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 20 2008, 12:35 AM) [snapback]463576[/snapback]
I can’t abide bullying and especially the ganging up of people against others. There seems to be different camps (possibly not the most appropriate phrase at this time) with regards a misunderstanding between a number of posters who really should know better. At times it does make for interesting/funny reading but in my opinion to start dissecting a person/ family’s past is taking it a step too far. In my opinion such references should be deleted by the Mod.
PS If anyone does want to divulge any dirty laundry about THEMSELVES then fire away ph34r.gif

I always wanted to be a bouncer but I was too wee.
mortonjag 2008-06-20 00:42:46 For over twenty four hours I've been desperate to call Tontastic a POUFFE

mortonjag 2008-06-20 00:46:44
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 20 2008, 12:42 AM) [snapback]463593[/snapback]
deeglets sounds like a nice word for poo, that you'd say to toddlers.

Hush-you may offend the little ones.
mortonjag 2008-06-20 00:50:31
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 20 2008, 12:39 AM) [snapback]463585[/snapback]
Not where it matters. wink.gif

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QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 20 2008, 12:44 AM) [snapback]463595[/snapback]
Yep you are probably correct. Apologies. My attempt at trying to be a cyber counsellor was misplaced.

Don't demean yourself HT-it matters not who won or lost, but how you played the game.
mortonjag 2008-06-20 00:53:23
QUOTE(Tyrannous @ Jun 20 2008, 12:45 AM) [snapback]463596[/snapback]
You have a 42 inch Tv up it...remember?

Showing 'Songs of praise'.
mortonjag 2008-06-20 01:04:04
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jun 19 2008, 06:56 PM) [snapback]463142[/snapback]
Cheers!
I think with teachers, they could use the over supply to help improve the standard. Have more assessment of who the best teachers are and replace or retrain ones not up the mark.

Obviously the education budget is far higher than the fire service budget, so think there would be scope improve things.

I think it's a simple matter of logistics Piehole. IF we have too many teachers, train them to put out fires, which are very dangerous.

QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 20 2008, 12:39 AM) [snapback]463586[/snapback]
So salary is just not simply based on supply and demand but based on many different factors? I am glad that we appear to now agree on the matter.

Of course salary is based on supply and demand-if there's no supply, there's no salary-if there's no demand there's no salary.


Rule Gillania.
mortonjag 2008-06-20 01:08:27
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 20 2008, 01:06 AM) [snapback]463606[/snapback]
He's the only guy I've ever felt the need to put on ignore. f*** me, he was annoying as f***! I'm actually getting angry thinking about the s***e he posted.

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mortonjag 2008-06-20 01:13:18
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 20 2008, 12:38 AM) [snapback]463582[/snapback]
I am not a f***ing perv!

Fud.



POUFFE
mortonjag 2008-06-20 07:50:29
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jun 20 2008, 02:53 AM) [snapback]463620[/snapback]
You prove that theory daily

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mortonjag 2008-06-20 07:55:23
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 20 2008, 05:42 AM) [snapback]463638[/snapback]
One can post penis but not c***.

One can post fanny but not c***.

One can post homosexual but not ****.

One can post Douglas Rae but not *careful, or I'll close down the Internet*.

Good-first class to Melbourne.
mortonjag 2008-06-20 07:56:43 PLEASE Sir
mortonjag 2008-06-20 08:02:38
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 20 2008, 07:28 AM) [snapback]463647[/snapback]
at least his weapon does not ironing.

smile.gif

Fortunately I'm doing the Herald Crossword--the answer is


NEED

You seem to know Toby better than I suspected!
mortonjag 2008-06-20 08:11:01
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 19 2008, 11:52 PM) [snapback]463493[/snapback]
3 days and still no answers.

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Tonsilitis has been hinting heavily that he 'knows something', but it seems he's for keeping 'his sh*t to himself'. I really hope he doesn't have some damming evidence.
mortonjag 2008-06-20 08:17:54
QUOTE(Savo @ Jun 20 2008, 01:17 AM) [snapback]463610[/snapback]
No, arrant nonsense.
So what if Jim hasn't moved yet.
Derek McInnes and Derek Lilley both played here for years before they moved on to enjoy good careers elsewhere.
McAlister, in my opinion, will also move on to bigger and better things - sooner rather than later.
PS, I didn't say he was 'effin brilliant' (I said he was Morton's best player and rubbished your valuation of him tongue.gif ).

I did NOT put a valuation on him-I suggested we let him go at a reduced price for the mutual benefit of Jimbo and the Ton

QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jun 20 2008, 02:42 AM) [snapback]463618[/snapback]
We paid £11,000 odd for Kieran McAnespie, £15,000 for Bobby Linn, £15,000 for Jamie Stevenson. If you think we'd let Jim go for that sort of fee - or that that's all he's worth - you've lost your mind.

That happened long ago!

Read what I posted above. The only place Jimbo MIGHT now fit in would be wide right-but WOW we kept superman!

The boy is a midfielder, and we now have (given the squad size) too many midfielders-let him go and develop his undoubted talent and use the £20,000 - £30,000 to buy a half decent left winger.
mortonjag 2008-06-20 08:54:43
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 20 2008, 08:23 AM) [snapback]463657[/snapback]
You missed out a zero there MJ. To suggest we let a talent like McAllister go for £20 or £30 grand is got to be one of the most ludicrous things I have ever read on these forums.



Are you his agent Spurtle? McAlister huffed and puffed all last season producing, in reality, very little.

He's had 'POTENTIAL' written all over him for four seasons-maybe that'll end up as his epitaph.

He's certainly not going to realise it in the present set up-simple-the only conceivable 'get out' is to sell superman instead, and try Jimbo wide right.

Do you want Shoogly to keep him in a little golden casket marked 'bids please'?
mortonjag 2008-06-20 09:29:20
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 20 2008, 09:21 AM) [snapback]463669[/snapback]
it was all a misunderstanding, mortonjag was banned for a grammatical howler biggrin.gif

amber?
mortonjag 2008-06-20 09:53:06
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 20 2008, 09:35 AM) [snapback]463678[/snapback]
Is that logical ?

Just because a bloke is wearing a brassiere,
is he automatically a pouf or a pouffe ?
blink.gif

Could be the chief exec!
mortonjag 2008-06-20 10:03:17


QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 20 2008, 09:17 AM) [snapback]463667[/snapback]
I think you're right. A "Special Forum" reeks of school when the social inadequates who feel the need to feel important and have control. "You're in ma gang" biggrin.gif Social bullying and as you say Delicate Flowers no one will be able to say insensitive things so's not to hurt. Let's go hide from the bad guys. Sounds more like it should be for the under 18's YAWN

It depends very much on your definition of 'social inadequacy'.

I'd suggest that one of the reasons the new forum was mooted was 'social inadequacy' on the part of several contributors to the normal board.

Just my opinion mind.

Rule Gillania.
mortonjag 2008-06-20 13:39:56
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jun 20 2008, 11:49 AM) [snapback]463728[/snapback]
damning Show phonetics
adjective
describes a report, finding, remark, etc. which is very critical or which shows clearly that someone is wrong, guilty or has behaved very badly:
He made some fairly damning remarks about the government's refusal to deal with the problem.
The two men were convicted on some extremely damning evidence.

I'm not sure why you are tying to educate someone more educated than yourself Dave. Tonsilitis will understand. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-20 13:54:51
QUOTE(Savo @ Jun 20 2008, 10:22 AM) [snapback]463694[/snapback]
Utter drivel.

No it's NOT drivel Savo-it's my considered opinion. Instead of making daft two word 'put downs' it would be good to hear YOUR reasoning.

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 20 2008, 10:45 AM) [snapback]463708[/snapback]
That will be why he won various player of the year awards then blink.gif

MJ, if you can't see this is one player who has real talent and could go a long way in this game, then perhaps you should go watch basketball or something.

I can just imagine future posts of yours if Shoogly sold him on to Motherwell, for example, for £20k, and 3 years down the line he is sold on for £2m to some English club.

The longer we can hold onto him the better, but I fear this could be Jims last season with us. And he WON'T go for £20k I can assure you.

Thank God you are not runing the club if that's your thinking..... blink.gif

It's quite simple -McAlister has NOT fulfilled promise-he appears to have loads of potential, but we HAVE to cut our cloth this season, and as I have stated a left winger would be far more cost effective, and his years' wages paid for by the sale of Jimbo.

QUOTE(irvineTON @ Jun 20 2008, 10:46 AM) [snapback]463709[/snapback]
I agree Savo.

Jag, how can u constantly talk up "Leafy" then say these things about a far better player in McAllister? ohmy.gif

And LargsTon has never been able to admit he is 1 of our best players (if not thee best), obviously cos he used to always try & say Stevenson was far better!!! blink.gif

LEAFY has been a disappointment-I've not been 'constantly talking him up', but I've said he'll come good when folk start to supply him properly.

Jimbo and Kev are similar to each other-very effective workhorses, but useless goal scorers, and neither can deliver even a half decent cross on a regular basis.

I'd have been more than happy to see Jimbo tried on the right of midfield-it's just that we're now spoiled for experienced midfielders, so he either warms the bench or plays in his usual left sided ineffective role (in terms of attack).
mortonjag 2008-06-20 14:02:15
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jun 19 2008, 11:40 PM) [snapback]463474[/snapback]
I pop on to the GMST forum occasionally and I'm disappointed that it has now also become infected with yet more of MJ's 'I am the one true voice of the Morton faithful' posturing. Your characterisation of yourself as the simple mouthpiece of 20 guys, some with clout, fighting manfully against the overwhelming forces of darkness smacks just a little of your obsessive need to stroke your ego at every conceivable opportunity.

For what it's worth I wish Tontastic hadn't moved this thread here but the fact that it annoys you and has you stamping your precious little oxygen starved foot almost makes it worthwhile.

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mortonjag 2008-06-20 14:35:48
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 20 2008, 01:52 PM) [snapback]463784[/snapback]
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Why do you always have to do this? Can't you see that it's comments like that that cause you to be the subject of so many debates.

Why am I doing what.

I deliberately mis-spelled the word. Tonsilitis will understand why, but Tailbearer had to attempt to me a smart arse.

Why do people always try to put the Jag down?

Can't you see that that sort of behaviour inevitably leads to defence on the Jag's part?
mortonjag 2008-06-20 14:40:02
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 20 2008, 02:02 PM) [snapback]463791[/snapback]
He is only 22 years old and hardly the finished article. He had a hard first season the a new division in a team that fought relegation. Give him a chance FFS !
I suppose we will have to agree to disagree on this one.

Time will tell.......

I don't think we're in huge disagreement. Jimbo has a future for sure-we just can't afford to wait for the golden egg.
mortonjag 2008-06-20 14:48:24
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 19 2008, 10:29 PM) [snapback]463355[/snapback]
Bryan physically disadvantaged children can be accomadated in mainstream school but those with severe learning difficulties are totally different .

My son is diagnosed with Autism , he is 4 and goes to Hillend and has one to one support which has really brought him on. He needs a calm enviroment so his education is a really worry .

I read an article where 97% of special needs children who went to mainstream schools are bullied .

I agree entirely. 'Inclusion' was never going to work.

Bryan's correct about disabled kids who can benefit from normal education, but kids with learning difficulties are better educated by specialist teachers in a user friendly environment.
mortonjag 2008-06-20 14:52:15
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jun 20 2008, 11:54 AM) [snapback]463734[/snapback]
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She might not get pregnant but you might find yourself AIDs riddled for the luxury. smile.gif
Remember; oral contraception cannot block STDs!

Lesson for the day cool.gif

Aye it can-just say 'NO'.
mortonjag 2008-06-20 15:01:29
QUOTE(Toby @ Jun 20 2008, 11:18 AM) [snapback]463720[/snapback]
Is anybody actually going to have the baws to admit to disliking anyone?

I'll admit I cannot stand Piehutt, his closet hun jibes really got on my tits. 888 isn't my favourite person in the world either after his countless public slatings of me followed by private apologies culminating with his pathetic attempt to grab me by the throat at Dens Park.

I wouldn't piss on Tooth and Nail or her mate if they were on fire. Don't have a hell of alot of time for GeacensGenitails either, he just annoys me.

Edit to add: Mortonbug.

The guys I have had the biggest and longest fights with are now 'brand new'. Simple reason-they were arguing about something they believed in.

I've also had quite a few posters pm me with 'what the f*ck do you think you're playing at' type stuff, and invariably we end up with an understandng.

There are only five or six posters whose behaviour makes me want to set fing on them. I'm sure they are very pleasant in real life.
mortonjag 2008-06-20 15:16:30


QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jun 20 2008, 11:15 AM) [snapback]463718[/snapback]
For God's sake DON'T EAT THEM - they're BOUND to disagree with you....... laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-06-20 17:10:47
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 20 2008, 04:57 PM) [snapback]463868[/snapback]
I assure you, I'm not biggrin.gif


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Fing wouldn't waste a nail on you!
mortonjag 2008-06-20 17:20:41
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Jun 20 2008, 03:58 PM) [snapback]463836[/snapback]
My God! Are you serious?

Of course I know you mis-spelled the word. You had a choice though:-

Option 1 :- Explain to DD that you mis-spelled the word on purpose and that Tonsilitis would understand why.
Option 2 :- Put the man down and insult him for his comparative lack of education.

It's no brainer for most people on here but I'm afraid you ALWAYS chose option 2 and then have the audacity to bleat like a spoiled child when someone retaliates.

If you could ditch the intellectual snobbery and petty vindictiveness you might just find that you won’t feel so "put down" anymore and they may even listen to what you have to say.

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QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jun 20 2008, 04:26 PM) [snapback]463852[/snapback]
More defence needed there MJ...
Real Hoops - the problem is that the Jag perceives himself to be intellectually superior to all on here. If you have not studied Medicine at a proper University then you are obviously so lacking in academic standards that it is a surprise to Jag that you are still able to breath. i just wish I had thought of the old deliberate mis-spelling excuse at my last typo... rolleyes.gif tongue.gif laugh.gif wink.gif

I have three degrees at a proper university-it was NOT an excuse- and most importantly the intellectual superiority is there for all to see. The problem is that lesser creatures cannot cope. I fully understand. If I was in their hooves, I'm sure I'd feel exactly the same. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-20 17:26:13
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 20 2008, 04:54 PM) [snapback]463866[/snapback]
excellent! the place should bve a good laugh then biggrin.gif

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Power corrupts-I can see them banning folk right left and centre for being too polite.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 05:54:47
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jun 20 2008, 05:34 PM) [snapback]463878[/snapback]
Maybe if you addressed the questions to the Club you might get answers. Who on here is in a position to know? blink.gif

For once I agree with you Smiffy. The Club is a the cutting edge of IT advancement.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 06:01:04
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 20 2008, 11:55 PM) [snapback]464084[/snapback]
Are you connected to the club in an official capacity Tonsilitis ?
They ignore my posts as well sad.gif

When I was a young and 'wet behind the ears' doctor, I instinctively defended all things medical. Tonsilitis, it would appear, behaves in the same manner with 'the pennies'. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-21 06:15:28
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 20 2008, 07:38 PM) [snapback]463951[/snapback]
name one player that plays for the full 90 minutes in this league? infact name me one player in the world who plays in Jims position that plays for 90 mins every game? he's not in the centre controlling the game, he's an impact player and when he's not involved in the game offensively you can be sure as hell that he'll be involved in the game defensively. He isn't the complete player, not even close and never will be until he leaves Morton, but he's the best player we've had in years and the only asset that this club has to sell.

we were playing 4-5-1 or 3-6-1 away from home last season, on the backfoot for most of it, for someone out wide to play amazingly the whole game is near on impossible with that system, but he was as excellent as always defensively away from home last season. I remember his Man of the match performance against Dunfermline 2nd game of the season at east end park, he was doing the job of just about everyone else on the park.

As soon as we started to play 3-4-3 last season Jim finally found a position that suited his attacking ability and also still able to chip in with defensive duties, for me its stupid we're even contemplating changing that formation as it worked so well and everyone fitted perfectly into their positions.

PT, my opinion on Jimbo has very little to do with what he's GOOD at. He's useless as a left sided attacking player, we're AGAIN relatively overloaded with midfielders, and there's NO money.

I'd want rid of McGregor, Finlayson, Greacen, and possibly Jamie too, if it's going to be that 'small squad of 'quality' players we were promised.

Promises from the club tend to be a bit like sparklers on November 5th.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 06:26:41
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 20 2008, 11:02 PM) [snapback]464056[/snapback]
Great post. And just to add, MJ doesn't do names. ...................as I'm sure you will find out. dry.gif



Correct Spurtle-Mortonjag is too busy going to Morton matches-home and away-all season to do any scouting. dry.gif

Mortonjag is also too honest to trawl P & B and shamelessly plagiarise others in order to look 'informed'. dry.gif

Mortonjag's TV licence expired long ago, and he has been unable to watch replays of all last season's SFL matches. dry.gif

I liked the Croatian goalie's kicking and throw outs last night. (Benadette next door invited me in) We need a goalie. Now that they're oot yon cup maybe DI could put in a bid for him in exchange for JIMBO. dry.gif








mortonjag 2008-06-21 06:30:30
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 21 2008, 06:08 AM) [snapback]464188[/snapback]
thought that said ' the penis '
mornin' sunshine smile.gif

Are you calling Tonsilitis a dick?
mortonjag 2008-06-21 06:38:04
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 20 2008, 05:42 PM) [snapback]463882[/snapback]
I don't know who or what Fing is. sad.gif

The little fing on the right of my avatar (as you view it). Do NOT be fooled by the benign expression.

QUOTE(princessTON @ Jun 20 2008, 05:55 PM) [snapback]463885[/snapback]
It's a Monkey.

HE is not a monkey Princess-Munx is the monkey. Fing is a fing and a nail gun assassin par excellence.

Munx and fing are brothers.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 06:40:34
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 20 2008, 09:07 PM) [snapback]463994[/snapback]
bluff

true
mortonjag 2008-06-21 06:53:30
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 20 2008, 07:48 PM) [snapback]463958[/snapback]
having special needs at school my self with using a wheelchair and other things id rather not share in public, i found that with kids like myself that didnt have severe learning difficulties can be served in main stream education. but you are right kids with severe learning difficultiest should be catered for in the right way that meets there needs. and yes i was bullied, and told by specialists that i couldnt cope with uni and i did


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Bryan-forget all the crap I talk about 'proper' Unis, and answer this. I met a bloke a few years ago who wanted to come over here from Toronto to do a post grad course and see Scotland. He was severely physically disabled and wheelchair bound. He applied to Paisly Uni on the strength of their prospectus-came over with his parents-and when he got here discovered that Paisley Uni was FAR from disabled friendly. Indeed he was SO distressed that he could not do the course, that he ended up in hospital after an attempted suicide bid (why I met him). That was six-or at the very most- seven years ago.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 06:59:37
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jun 21 2008, 12:03 AM) [snapback]464090[/snapback]
i see your point bryan , although obviously ive not shared your experiences.
iv came across physically disabled kids in non mainstream education(such as special schools) when its blindingly obvious they have the mental capacity to handle mainstream education

When the disability is purely physical, it may still be advisable in some cases to keep kids out of mainstream education, as anyone perceived 'abnormal' is bullied. Bryan seems to have had the personality to cope. Others would be better in special needs schools.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 07:07:13 I'm a Philistine and don't do arts or cinema.

I rarely watch TV, but two actors who were 'made for the part' were Peter Falk (Columbo) and Leo McKern (Rumpole of the Bailey). They were perpetually as convincing as ex-barrow boy David Jason was never, in 'A touch of Frost'.

Joanna Lumley and Penelope Keith are probably my two favourite females-neither a beauty-both oozing class and talent.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 07:16:06
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 21 2008, 06:38 AM) [snapback]464194[/snapback]
don't put words in my mouth!....dicks on the otherhand...
i should probably go to bed soon.

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mortonjag 2008-06-21 07:23:56 Today is midsummer's day (and my wee grand daughter's third birthday).

I find it hard to believe that the nights are already drawing in and Autumn is just around the corner. I SHOULD have emigrated in my twenties. (No confirmation required thank you. mad.gif )

If you had one dream for something that could come true in the next year-what would it be?

Mine-I DO have one, but I'm too scared to say! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-21 07:47:48
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 21 2008, 07:36 AM) [snapback]464204[/snapback]
start by buying me dinner and we'll see where it goes wink.gif

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Deeglet will be miffed.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 08:08:22
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 18 2008, 05:01 PM) [snapback]462039[/snapback]
funny how a thread actually about Morton gets about 4 replies, if you'd said Mortonjag had said greacen was out for 4 weeks it'd have been at 18 pages by now.
we have three, hopefully four centrebacks just now so not too worried about this, only problem is a lack of pre season might seriously wreck Stuarts season.

Nobody really seems to give a toss about poor big Stu. I wonder why? blink.gif

QUOTE(Malt @ Jun 18 2008, 05:06 PM) [snapback]462045[/snapback]
Alex Walker, David McGregor are also cover for the full back position as well as Harding, Greacen, McMannus and poss Innes. We are covered.

We should be SIGNING full backs!

QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 18 2008, 05:59 PM) [snapback]462068[/snapback]
I love your signature. Change the word politicians to posters and you could be referring to you know who!!

The 'sarky' wee digs get worse from our vastly experienced professional who at all times maintains impeccable standards in all walks of life. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 19 2008, 08:31 AM) [snapback]462670[/snapback]
if you'd said Mortonjag had said greacen was out for 4 weeks

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Is Mortonjag the Ton's honorary medical officer ?

Indeed he is, and is happy to announce that Cappie has had a successful tail graft, Crawford's RSI is responding to firm strapping and oestrogen injections, Andy Bryan's laser vision correction has been hampered by lack of money, and Gilian Donaldson has stopped smoking cigarettes










































and taken up the pipe.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 08:13:48
QUOTE(Kaney @ Jun 21 2008, 07:53 AM) [snapback]464206[/snapback]
Ye can dream of lottery wins and whatever. But above all else youve got to wish for your own, and your families health.

Something people take for granted until illness strikes.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 08:41:07
QUOTE(Tooth & Nail @ Jun 21 2008, 08:18 AM) [snapback]464209[/snapback]
Nice to have some support on here biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Claire-if you want to go up in the popularity stakes, I'd get some beauty therapy done,and have your avatar picture taken from a different angle. It makes you look like a boy.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 08:45:32
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 21 2008, 08:20 AM) [snapback]464210[/snapback]
I have not had any dreams about you MJ. Had a few nightmares though laugh.gif

Anyway, I'm away to Bannockburn today to hear Mr Salmond wink.gif

mellow.gif That is SERIOUSLY worrying Spurtle-you know something, and it pains me to say it, I'd rather give Shoogly a big cuddle.

QUOTE(Kaney @ Jun 21 2008, 08:22 AM) [snapback]464211[/snapback]
Not me. I worry about people around me all the time. I worry about death myself quite alot actually.
I might need some professional help sometime soon..

Pre-occupation with illness and death is indeed an illness in itself.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 09:00:58
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 20 2008, 08:07 PM) [snapback]463976[/snapback]
Can the mods ensure that the new forum will be bum bandit free? unsure.gif

Oh, aye, petite ginger rentier free would be really good too. ohmy.gif

Au contraire M.Le Bam-it will be the first time we have a level playing field-I look forward to this with some relish!



QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 21 2008, 12:01 AM) [snapback]464089[/snapback]
right everyone, its time to play guess the password! tongue.gif



LE POUFFE CELEBRE
mortonjag 2008-06-21 09:07:46
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 21 2008, 08:55 AM) [snapback]464219[/snapback]
It's the SNP's annual Bannockburn Rally to commemorate the Battle of Bannockburn.

.....and says everything that's wrong about Salmond's leadership.

Is he taking Scotland towards 'informed' independence by celebrating a rammy that occurred almost 700 years ago.

Effin liability.

Is Soapy going?
mortonjag 2008-06-21 09:11:52 post not found
mortonjag 2008-06-21 10:00:18
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 21 2008, 09:26 AM) [snapback]464227[/snapback]
I take it it's wrong to have Remembrance Day/Poppy Day as well ?

And it's not "celebrating" it's commemorating


Spurtle-sometimes I could kiss you for your innocence!

The attempts by Germany to dominate Europe in the 20th century are fresh enough in the minds of many living Britons-a few even re-call the First World War. I'm happy to commemorate the bravery of our forces-indeed even to celebrate Hitler's humping.

Celebrating Bannockburn 700 years on is merely fodder for quasi Nationalist paranoia.

Commemoration! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

How I remember my uncle Hamish McBroadsword-he fought at Bannockburn you know. Used to have his daily punt, and a pint in the Jimmy Watt until he died of his war wounds last September.





Commemoration
QUOTE(Kaney @ Jun 21 2008, 09:35 AM) [snapback]464229[/snapback]
Dying*(?) sucks ass. I wish some crazy scientist mob would learn how to save us all. Id pay plenty aswell.
I proper sh*t it sometimes..
* I have no idea how that word is spelled.

I get confused with that one, and also with lying. You spelled it correctly.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 10:01:51
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 21 2008, 09:53 AM) [snapback]464232[/snapback]
That's easy. You will be "taken out" with a .22 rifle from the grassy knoll on the Sinclair St carpark by one of shooglies hit men.

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If you'd omitted the 'Shoogly' bit I might have been feart.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 10:04:52
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jun 21 2008, 09:55 AM) [snapback]464233[/snapback]
What makes you say that?

Nothing-I typed it.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 12:43:27
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 21 2008, 11:11 AM) [snapback]464260[/snapback]
Sorry Chris, I was just getting a bit wound up and should have replied to your post

Firstly, I am not connected to the club except that I have a number of people I well who are. Usually I do reply and I apologise for not having done so earlier.

In regard to the share issue, I agree that potential investors should know who the directors are but this is not a public placing - it can't be as Morton are a private company - so I doubt if many of the investors this time round don't know Alistair Donald's position. I am not a shareholder and am therefore not privy to what has gone on but all that I am pointing out is that either there may be a good reason why he is not yet registered at Companies House or, if it is a c*** up, its the sort of thing that happens all the time in UK companies. Its a minor oversight that does not carry any great consequence.
As far as the investors go, Mr Donald himself will be taking a large slice of the new issue and Golden Casket the bulk of the rest although there are some new investors. I would suggest that anyone investing in the club will know what the position is.

With regard to season ticket scams, my enquiries of the club suggest its not as big a problem as is being made out by the hearsay evidence on this board. Sure, it should not happen at all but if people start out to steal from you, its hard to be absolutely watertight. You could easily spend more on securing these things than the return you would get - there is a balance to be found. What was a problem was people who were purportedly unemployed getting season tickets and then turning out to be in work or gaining employment shortly after. I'm not sure I agree with it but thats why they stopped the concession season tickets.

On the club's annual losses, we lose about the average for clubs in the second tier of Scottish football. The only way to make money in the first division is to have facilities which can produce an income other than on match Saturdays - St Johnstone are the best example of that - or to have a decent cup run - again St Johnstone and QoS are good examples. Alternatively you can go part time which almost certainly would consign the team in question to the second division. We are being funded by Golden Casket at present. Their plan to get us profitable is to get us into the SPL but they can't do it all at once. Hence the push to bring Cappielow to SPL standards and go for a smaller but more capable squad. Other things which we would like to have just have to wait and the youth system is, I'm afraid one of those. Again thats not how I would have set my priorities but the board are running with theirs and thats how it is.

Finally, don't confuse the upgrqading costs with the amount to be raised in share issues. The share issue cost may only part of the rebuild cost. The rest might be borrowed for example, especially if the new facilities have the scope to provide extra income for the club - I don't know!

In an ideal world we would at least break even but with the present facilities and if we are to have a team that can compete for promotion, its very difficult at least in the short/medium term. Get to the SPL and sustain a place there and maybe we can achieve stability. At least the way things are structured at present we are funded by share capital and have next to no external borrowings.



You seem to be saying that Mr Donald will be taking up many shares, while 'not being privy to what's going on'. Can you CONFIRM that Mr Donald is an executive director, who WILL be taking up the majority of the shares?

Other than that you have done nothing but trot out excuses, and theories.

If you don't have a clue (which I believe to be the case), would you not have been better keeping your mouth shut instead of confusing folk with what sounds like a whole load of flannel?

I know you are an experienced accountant-the rest of the regular readers do too. I'd trust you implicitly with advice on financial affairs just as I'd hope you'd take my advice on things medical.

What I find annoying about your stance on this (and on previous issues too) is that you appear to have an astonishing faith in 'the establishment', and to resent questions being asked. What is wrong with wanting to know the truth? Why do you dismissively talk about Morton being a 'Private Company'? That's hardly the revelation of the century, though I'd suggest 'secret society' might be more appropriate.

In the past couple of months there has been plenty of evidence to suggest that the running of Greenock Morton is nothing short of a shambles. You choose to believe that all is well, and defend the club at every turn. That is your prerogative. Others are entitled to think differently.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 12:53:16
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jun 21 2008, 10:52 AM) [snapback]464254[/snapback]
Thanks for dodging the question, seems to be your trademark these days old yin. rolleyes.gif

I answered the question my child.


I typed the question because I wanted an answer. So far I've had one.

I'd happily keep Stu too, but only in a bigger squad. Given the current constraints, allied to the signings we've made, I believe it is utter lunacy to have committed ourselves to a relatively long contract with a player yet unproven at first division level.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 13:11:57

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 21 2008, 10:54 AM) [snapback]464255[/snapback]
Lest we forget Tom wink.gif

Anyway, must dash, don't want to miss the start of our great leader Alex Salmonds' speech tongue.gif



Coming in gallons and your kilt at the sight of that embarrassment, is sad, Spurtle.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 13:20:49

QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 21 2008, 12:01 PM) [snapback]464271[/snapback]
Don't get me wrong Johnny Boy, I wish you and Boozie all the best and I truly hope it succeeds, and I'm sure if it doesn't it won't be through any lack of effort, dedication and good-will on the part of either of you.

But one prominent member has already indicated I should be barred and another has made it clear he is going to use it as a tool to settle old scores. So from that at least it doesn't seem like it's going to turn out the way you hope and predict.

I genuinely hope I'm wrong though and wish you all the best, but it's clearly not for me.

Good luck to you and Boozie.

Conscience doth make cowards of us all.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 13:40:17 In terms of savings to the health service, it's a great idea.

In terms of practicality it's unworkable.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 14:16:14
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jun 21 2008, 01:52 PM) [snapback]464305[/snapback]
so if i'm reading this right, this is happening because scott gillan didn't like being called a poofter? or is it because the mods are hoping mentaljag goes and plays in another sandpit?

obviously the latter. this is a novel solution to the problem - get the mj fan club all together in the same pen and hope the arse-licking tickles his ego along with his bangle to the extent where he doesn't want to leave and f*** up the other boards.

sound.

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mortonjag 2008-06-21 14:18:12
QUOTE(Toby @ Jun 21 2008, 02:01 PM) [snapback]464309[/snapback]
NewTon emigrated years ago and still manages to do my tits in. I doubt it would make any difference.

NewTon is misunderstood.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 14:23:57
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 21 2008, 02:16 PM) [snapback]464312[/snapback]
its one of the better ones with been all his classes in the campus, its flatish, has lifts etc, but he would have been better where he was or in the states as they are light years ahead of us for being disabled friendly.

I seem to remember now that the problem WAS with the absence of lifts-which obviously would refer to the course he'd chosen, and as I said it was a few years back. He was already a graduate from a Uni in Canada, and his Dad had to come over here for a year because of his job, so the family thought it was a good idea. Anyway he could hump me at scrabble! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-21 14:32:10
QUOTE(se65an @ Jun 21 2008, 02:20 PM) [snapback]464314[/snapback]
FFS hurry up and open the new forum, how long does it take three poofters to set it all up.

Its not rocket science blink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-06-21 14:34:57
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 21 2008, 02:30 PM) [snapback]464318[/snapback]
there was only 4 bits that werent accessable but you could get in most areas even if you took the long way. but it is one of the better ons its just a shame the goverment hasnt got the balls to enforce access for all.

It's coming gradually-unfortunately the real problem is the old one-money.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 14:45:00 That's the sort of entirely reasonable presentation I'd always expected of you! wink.gif

Just one thing I still take issue with, and it's central to this thread.

Why should I have to apply for shares before I can find out whether or not Mr Donald is indeed a director of the club?

I'm still extremely puzzled as to why Companies House has updated information on Mr Montford and Mr Brown, while failing to incorporate the third change in the composition of the Board which occurred at the same time.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 14:53:19
QUOTE(simple_ton @ Jun 21 2008, 02:35 PM) [snapback]464323[/snapback]
Have to say, I agree with MJ on this one - it'll be open to all sorts of abuse. While we're at it, why don't we give an extra allowance to homeless people who have dogs- -oh, i forgot, we do that already!

Really-that's a new one on me-I bet the soap dodgers are claiming for f*ckin' Rotweilers when they've only got a Bichon Frise.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 15:21:41
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 21 2008, 03:00 PM) [snapback]464331[/snapback]
So if I lived in Dundee, if I started smoking I would recieve money?




Smokers in deprived communities are to be paid £12.50 a week to encourage them to quit the habit.

The initiative is to be tried in Dundee and if successful will be rolled out across the country.

It follows the major success of a similar scheme "Give it up for Baby" in which pregnant women in the city were offered financial incentives to encourage them to stop smoking. That resulted in the numbers quitting rising sevenfold in the first year and this year a 15-fold increase is expected.


The new £500,000 initiative is being funded jointly by NHS Tayside, Dundee City Council and the Scottish Government.

The aim is to tackle the circumstances of smokers living in poorer communities which can often act as barriers to giving up. Under the scheme, which will be open to 18,000 smokers in Dundee, participants who stop smoking will be given £12.50 per week for three months, credited on to an electronic card. They can redeem the card in their local supermarket for fresh food and groceries, excluding alcohol and cigarettes.

They will receive nicotine replacement therapy through their pharmacy where they have to undertake a weekly carbon monoxide breath test.

It is expected 1800 smokers might sign up and around half of them would be expected to achieve success and be entitled to the £50 a month. The participants will also benefit from social support from Dundee Healthy Living Initiative including cessation help, physical activity and other lifestyle advice.

Sandy Watson, chairman of NHS Tayside, said: "Last year the Scottish Government challenged NHS Tayside to address smoking in disadvantaged areas. This project seeks to deliver on that and if successful could be replicated nationally.

"Smoking in Dundee is a difficult problem to tackle but we are hopeful that this innovative approach will encourage smokers to stop smoking for good and therefore make a real difference to their long-term health."

Paul Ballard, deputy director of public health, NHS Tayside, said: "There are 36,000 smokers in Dundee, half of whom live in poverty. Although current smoking cessation services are working well, because of the complexities of poverty and health we know we need to do more to tackle this. We will always work with local communities to find ways to help them make changes to their health behaviour."

He added: "The whole thrust of this approach is trying to level the playing field for deprived communities.

"We are trying to give them an incentive which is meaningful."

The move was welcomed by Sheila Duffy, chief executive of Action Smoking on Health Scotland.

She said:"Quitting smoking is hard and any positive way to encourage and support people to give up cigarettes is to be welcomed
mortonjag 2008-06-21 15:32:21 No problem Nick , don't get so uptight , it is because of your expertise as an accountant that your opinion is scrutinised .

I can see the hidden benefit of not owing money to an external creditor which has been the downfall of far bigger clubs than ourselves .

Its far from a hidden benefit Chris. Its all about giving strength to our balance sheet. Plus share capital does not have to be repaid. The only way for Golden Casket to get some or all of their money back would be to sell the company.

If Alistair Donald is to to become a major investor then I feel that it would build confidence amongst the support that if for some reason DDFR could no longer continue propping the club to the present level we may have a safety net in AD .

I agree and I expect it to happen.


My worry about the current dilemma about the Direct Debit issue is the club seem to be reluctant to admit problems publicly , whether they intend to look at the matter without actually drawing attention to the issue then that is understandable . However is the problem is ongoing I think it would disappoint the majority of supporters.

According to my sources in the club, it is not a big issue. If you read what people have said on here, the reverse is true. Who do you believe? I have just pointed out that the club don't think its a big issue but as usual, the messenger gets shot!

My only concern about not renewing ub40 season tickets are there are fans amongst us who have disabilities of some kind and while they are eligible to pay into the concession gate these are usually popular so if the club could make a concession for what is a small number of individuals I would be in favour of that move allowing easier access for certain individuals .

I agree that the issue with UB40/disable concessions seems a bit mean to me. On the other hand, they still have a concessionary price at the gate on production of a UB40. I do think though that disabled people should continue to get concessions and not doing so is mean and not the best PR for the club.
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So-far from thinking that Mr Donald has 'disappeared' you believe he's lurking in the wings until Auld Shoogly retires laugh.gif /sells up for a non-ridiculous price laugh.gif / pops his clogs?
mortonjag 2008-06-21 15:46:03 It always seems to be the other way around-who's your favourite poster and why?



I like a lot of different posters for a variety of reasons, and my favourite tends to vary from time to time.

Mortonjag's poster of the moment is port-ton, because he's intelligent, with a ridiculous sense of humour, is fearless, irrepressible, and mature beyond his years, lives in the Port, and regularly kisses my bangle.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 15:49:31
QUOTE(Savo @ Jun 21 2008, 03:45 PM) [snapback]464336[/snapback]
For my part, I'm not sure there is the pronounced difference LT. I'd say latterly we were getting the ball to Kevin very often (when he enjoyed a wee confidence surge) but I wouldn't agree that he was as prominent an option as that earlier in the season (maybe the 4-2 home win v Thistle aside).

Where I do agree is your point that we need to make sure we feed Jim much more than at times last season.

That's a fair point-I thought he looked quite haggard by the end of the season.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 15:52:01
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 21 2008, 03:48 PM) [snapback]464338[/snapback]
Hey, I thought you loved me? sad.gif

This thread's not about Mortonjag's lovers dearie. wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-21 16:16:07
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 21 2008, 08:55 AM) [snapback]464219[/snapback]
It's the SNP's annual Bannockburn Rally to commemorate the Battle of Bannockburn.
[/quoteIm working today so will sadly miss this years sad.gif sad.gif

Spurtle will be unimpressed.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 16:28:41
QUOTE(ton5saints1 @ Jun 21 2008, 04:15 PM) [snapback]464346[/snapback]
....and after 14 pages no one is any the wiser if the elusive Alistair Donald is on the Morton F.C. Board of Directors !

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For quite a while I was getting a bit suspicious-paranoid even-about this. That was daft.

Now it's as clear as day! The Tilly just ran the story as a space filler-they knew that Mr Fitzgerald was for the offski anyway-and Shoogly needed to deflect attention from our dire form at the time, so it suited him too.

See-it all fits perfectly-not the first time a Provincial Rag has done this sort of thing, and won't be the last.

Mr Donald, it seems, is not, was not, and never will be a Director of Morton Football Cub.

SIMPLE REALLY

mortonjag 2008-06-21 16:32:05
QUOTE(dazed @ Jun 21 2008, 04:16 PM) [snapback]464348[/snapback]
I dont know if anybody on the board dis-likes me or not, and to be honest lifes to short to be bothered.

Mortonjag agrees with this.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 16:35:58
QUOTE(dazed @ Jun 21 2008, 04:18 PM) [snapback]464349[/snapback]
Spurtle will be unimpressed.
[/quote
Im gutted I dont miss many of them.....ah well there is always next year

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What do they do apart from all the happy clappy 'we hate them inglish c*nts' stuff, and getting legless on Glenfiddich before the speeches start?
mortonjag 2008-06-21 16:39:35
QUOTE(ton5saints1 @ Jun 21 2008, 04:36 PM) [snapback]464354[/snapback]
She should have been locked up for her latest escapade on board an aircraft and I'd suggest her comments actually make her a racist herself.
As three police officers arrived to escort her off the plane Campbell seemed to "completely lose control", the court heard. As they dragged Campbell off the plane, she yelled: "It is because I am a black woman? You are all racists. I am going to sue you. I am going to f*** you." When a female officer ignored her, she yelled: "You blonde bitch. Answer me, answer me."

Had someone upset her or was she just pissed?
mortonjag 2008-06-21 17:00:29
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jun 21 2008, 04:58 PM) [snapback]464361[/snapback]
I just want us to sign someone. I'm bored.

I see the Midden have had a bid for James McPake turned down! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-21 17:03:40
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jun 21 2008, 04:39 PM) [snapback]464356[/snapback]
Horrible, horrible specimen. Needs locked away for her own good.



Have you met her? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-21 17:13:17
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jun 21 2008, 05:09 PM) [snapback]464364[/snapback]
Haha. That's on a par with Michelle McManus giving you a knock back for a blow-job.

That is unkind
mortonjag 2008-06-21 17:40:56
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Jun 21 2008, 05:15 PM) [snapback]464368[/snapback]
That's quite a claim. Time will tell I suppose.

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I don't want to be accused of misrepresenting the truth-it's not a claim-it's merely a hunch.

For all I know Mr Donald and Shoogly may be shaking hands on the buyout as I type.

In fact, that makes perfect sense-normally at this time of year he's shouting about 'not being bullied into signing players' and 'don't you think those boys deserve the chance to take us backwards' and stuff, yet he's been singularly quiet.

Mr Donald may be on the brink of buying out Shoogly.

SIMPLE REALLY
mortonjag 2008-06-21 17:50:51
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jun 21 2008, 05:25 PM) [snapback]464371[/snapback]
No, but have actually witnessed one of her many 'strops'.

Hmm-and that led you to conclude that she is a 'horrible, horrible specimen'.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 18:04:23
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 21 2008, 05:17 PM) [snapback]464370[/snapback]
For a battle that commemorates the killing of thousands of English soldiers that would be odd.

The battle of Kosovo was commemorated in Serbia, despite it being 700 years previous.
The patriotic assassination triggered the First World War.

So Gordy's oot the windae?
mortonjag 2008-06-21 18:07:21
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jun 21 2008, 06:03 PM) [snapback]464385[/snapback]
Her Sky News interview today was reprehensible, she is a complete reptile.

Says that someone on the plane called her a "golliwog model".

She should be ashamed. And jailed.

TonInDublin

Robertson's jam BOOM and Golden Shred.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 18:14:15
QUOTE(Savo @ Jun 21 2008, 06:09 PM) [snapback]464388[/snapback]
Does anyone know if this statement was ever put up on the website? It isn't on the list under the Chairman's section, but when you read the Erik Paartalu item and click the 'next' button, up it pops huh.gif It also seems to stop mid-sentence, and the bit about Nails has a spelling mistake.

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...so you actually think........ blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-21 18:16:41
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 21 2008, 06:11 PM) [snapback]464389[/snapback]
Is that an offer? wub.gif

Did he jump or was he pished! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-21 18:20:44
QUOTE(se65an @ Jun 21 2008, 06:12 PM) [snapback]464390[/snapback]
Is sniffing a white powder on a plane a crime? rolleyes.gif

No more than sniffing a black powder on a surform.


By Golly she's rude.
mortonjag 2008-06-21 22:30:36
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Jun 21 2008, 10:20 PM) [snapback]464461[/snapback]
Not quite correct Danny as I think I confirmed unequivocally that Mr Donald is still a non-executive Director of GMFC Ltd. smile.gif

laugh.gif Along with Mickey Mouse and the Tooth Fairy-executive/non-executive not registered with Companies House after almost six months and we're to be reassured by itchy baws! wacko.gif wacko.gif wacko.gif

QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jun 21 2008, 10:22 PM) [snapback]464463[/snapback]
What a stupid post. Of course the Club CEO will know. blink.gif

What a ridiculous comment-why should anybody at Cappielow (except 'Yer Man') suddenly be presumed to 'know' anything?
mortonjag 2008-06-22 06:08:32 The easy solution is to watch with the volume off. It's one of the few advantages of being deaf. I don't know what his name is, but one of those clots does a very good imitation of Starchy McPherson every time a half chance whizzes yards wide of the goal. mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif

Sometimes I just go through to the kitchen and listen on five live instead. Lets me get on with my knitting at the same time.
mortonjag 2008-06-22 06:27:42
QUOTE(BlueScottishRaven @ Jun 19 2008, 05:45 PM) [snapback]463089[/snapback]
let someone unbiased decide, im pretty sure that given the half the chance many people would just disallow MJ. just use the mod validation mainly so you can find out if they are 18+ not based on how opinionated they are in other forums

MJ can't wait for this forum-freedom from the primary two mentality where the teacher is growing overweight on Granny Smiths and the pets grow more inventive by the day.
mortonjag 2008-06-22 06:44:30 I'm surprised nobody picked up on this yesterday. One of the tabloids ran an article about Scottish Referees wanting to go full time-that's a debate in itself.

What caught my eye was the emetic mug shot of Craig the Liar Lawyer, Thomson, with the poor soul BEMOANING the fact that he had to take UNPAID LEAVE to officiate at the Euro Championships.

I thought they would at least get a couple of Euros for that task-I mean they get £600 for an SPL match, or indeed that the honour itself might be worth something to a man of substance, but Craigy boy, it would appear, wants more.

We never got an answer to the disallowed goal at Hamilton. The SFA said it was being investigated, and declines to say more.

If Mr Thomson is indeed so desperate for money as the article suggests, one can't help wondering again about the real reason for that disallowed goal. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-22 06:49:47
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 22 2008, 06:34 AM) [snapback]464548[/snapback]
Two bowling teams, one of all blondes and one of all brunettes, charter a double-decker bus for a weekend bowling tournament.

The brunette team rides in the bottom of the bus and the blonde team rides on the top level.

The brunette team down below is whooping it up having a great time, when one of them realizes she doesn't hear anything from the blondes upstairs, so she decides to go up and investigate.


When the brunette reaches the top, she finds all the blondes frozen in fear, staring straight ahead at the road and clutching the seats in front of them. They all have white knuckles.


The brunette asks, "What the heck's goin' on up here? We're having a great time downstairs!"


One of the blondes looks up and says to her, "Yeah, but you've got a driver!"


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Careful newt-some of our posters may be blonde-those days one must use ones mirrors with great care when posting.
mortonjag 2008-06-22 06:53:20
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 22 2008, 06:45 AM) [snapback]464550[/snapback]

I take it no 9 in the faded red tee shirt one it. She sure is one ugly fat bitch.
mortonjag 2008-06-22 06:56:43
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 22 2008, 06:53 AM) [snapback]464552[/snapback]
Wot the heck - a blonde joke with THE word - **** !!
A brunette, a redhead and a blonde walk down a beach when suddenly the brunette discovers a magic lamp.

The brunette rubs the lamp and P O O F ! a magic genie appears.

The genie tells the girls that he will grant them three wishes, so each girl will have a turn.

The redhead goes first and tells the genie that she's always been really smart and she is sick of being teased, so she asks the genie to make her just semi-smart. Suddenly the redhead is turned into a brunette.

Next, the brunette takes her turn. She tells the genie that she has always just been sort of smart and she wants to be really smart. Suddenly the brunette becomes a redhead.

Finally, it's the blonde's turn.

She thinks for a minute and then tells the genie that she's always been dumb and she's tired of being dumb.

The blonde says that she wants to be really dumb.

Suddenly, the blonde becomes a man!

You were well warned.

Cheerio, cheerio, cheerio! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-22 07:01:52 That's not an ugly dog at all-it's a dog making itself look ugly-which is different. Women have been practising the art from time immemorial.
mortonjag 2008-06-22 07:05:39
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 22 2008, 07:00 AM) [snapback]464556[/snapback]
Don't all genies' magic lamps go P O O F ???

I've only ever known one genie and her lamps were certainly magic. Maybe they would have gone P O O F if I'd had the chance to rub them.
mortonjag 2008-06-22 07:09:24
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 22 2008, 07:05 AM) [snapback]464558[/snapback]
http://www.welaf.com/vc_gallery/ugly+women/
take your pick ... and shovel.

The baker's daughter by a country mile I'd say, but remember, the beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
mortonjag 2008-06-22 07:14:07
QUOTE(big B @ Jun 22 2008, 07:11 AM) [snapback]464561[/snapback]
I thought by now somebody would have posted we should sign him tongue.gif

That would sure cause a racket.
mortonjag 2008-06-22 07:32:52
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 22 2008, 07:16 AM) [snapback]464563[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(big B @ Jun 22 2008, 06:11 PM) [snapback]464561[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I thought by now somebody would have posted we should sign him tongue.gif
Is he not the same Andrei Arshavin, who played for Zenit St Petersburg agaisnt the Huns ?

is he a different one ?

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They use different balls.
mortonjag 2008-06-22 08:58:46
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 22 2008, 08:49 AM) [snapback]464580[/snapback]
Surely teachers don't receive Granny Smiths in 2008.

Would not something more modern such as a Cripps Pink, a Pink Lady, a Cripps Red, Sundowner or a Bonza be more likely ?

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CRAB apples more like.
mortonjag 2008-06-22 09:07:18 Woody?

'Shooting brake', we used to call them in the days when men and boys could easily be differentiated and respect was not just a word.
mortonjag 2008-06-22 09:11:32
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Jun 22 2008, 08:26 AM) [snapback]464574[/snapback]
Arse-shaven.




ARSE HAVEN


Maison du pouffe celebre.
mortonjag 2008-06-22 09:17:42
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 22 2008, 08:57 AM) [snapback]464582[/snapback]
A three-legged, one-eyed, almost hairless Chinese crested pedigree mutt named Gus has been crowned the world's ugliest dog.

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And he STILL has more legs than Shoogly, more hair than midTONs, and more eyes than a new potato.

Furthermore he has a PEDIGREE-more than can be said for those three.

I think Gus is a great wee guy.
mortonjag 2008-06-22 09:21:27
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 22 2008, 09:12 AM) [snapback]464587[/snapback]
Not quite correct, old mate.

A shooting brake did not need to be a woody.
http://www.oldwoodies.com/gallery-shootingbrakes.htm



I sit corrected!

Morris 1000 Traveller-great wee shooting brake or was it the first 'estate car'?
mortonjag 2008-06-22 09:23:48
QUOTE(Kaney @ Jun 22 2008, 09:18 AM) [snapback]464589[/snapback]
I could probably have won that competition with a photo of my willy.




I would have been disqualified.
mortonjag 2008-06-22 09:43:27
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 22 2008, 09:29 AM) [snapback]464595[/snapback]

Not enough space in the back to be a true 'estate' as we now think of them!
mortonjag 2008-06-22 09:45:45
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 22 2008, 09:34 AM) [snapback]464596[/snapback]
Can we expect an ugly willie contest in the new forum ??

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Oh I'm sure we'll have hunners of ugly pouffe willies
mortonjag 2008-06-22 09:47:23
QUOTE(SramTon @ Jun 22 2008, 09:36 AM) [snapback]464597[/snapback]
Or why not try arse-a-vin?

the perfect accompanyment to coq-a-vin.

------

Back on topic, he was exceptional last night (and not for the first time this tournament).

Archie Knox described playing in the "hole" as the "position of no responsibility", Arshavin has been the fulcrum of that team; the absolute driving force. Not only is he a joy to watch, everytime he touches the ball he reinforces my belief that Knox is a clueless gimp.

...and keech Lorraine.

Back to topic-does anybody else want to see jumped up brat and Mummy's little darling Murray well and truly humped?

Surely even Spurtle must acknowledge that he's already a 'BRITISH' player! mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-22 09:51:59
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 22 2008, 09:42 AM) [snapback]464598[/snapback]
ohmy.gif one has confidential evidence, i presume?

F*ck off Alistair.
mortonjag 2008-06-22 09:54:27
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 22 2008, 09:51 AM) [snapback]464605[/snapback]
hunners of ugly pouffe willies do not a contest make.

They may contest the term pouffe
mortonjag 2008-06-22 11:25:16
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jun 22 2008, 10:33 AM) [snapback]464613[/snapback]
He's being a wee, well a BIG bit economical with the truth MJ.

He might have needed to take unpaid leave from his job - probably used all his holidays already or suchlike - but he will not be out of pocket I can tell you !!!! We have three FAI eircom League officials in our branch, and one of them has completed extra training and FIFA tutelage to specialise as an Assistant Referee. He is one of the top 12 assistants on FIFAs books and is called in for a lot of major games - he's done a ganzie load of champions league and internationals.

Anyway - they fly business class, are kitted out from everything to suit/shirt/tie/shoes all the way through to the watch. Boots and FIFA referee's gear go without saying. And they are paid handsomely for it.

As an example - I have done a couple of Eircom League pre-season friendlies - referee's fee is €270.

The fees rise for formal Eircom League matches, and when you start getting to European/FIFA games you don't go short of a bob or two. All expenses are also incremental - hotel bills, meals etc. They also get nice "wee" presents from the home clubs - "wee" being an engraved Rolex he got as assistant in a fairly bog standard European match involving a Greek and a Ukraine team ! Not three bad !

So don't get too upset over his predicament MJ - he'll be alright

TonInDublin

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QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 22 2008, 11:08 AM) [snapback]464628[/snapback]
tut-tut rolleyes.gif

so what was craig thomson actually quoted as saying in the article?

I can't exactly recall Alistair-something about bailiffs and his children needing new shoes I seem to remember.
mortonjag 2008-06-22 11:27:48
QUOTE(C B @ Jun 22 2008, 11:20 AM) [snapback]464631[/snapback]
blink.gif WOT? He was a hard b*****d !
Weediest has to be Michael Gardyne for me !

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mortonjag 2008-06-22 15:04:25
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 22 2008, 01:03 PM) [snapback]464670[/snapback]
[b]According to my sources in the club, it is not a big issue. If you read what people have said on here, the reverse is true. Who do you believe? I have just pointed out that the club don't think its a big issue but as usual, the messenger gets shot![/b]

Nick ,
No matter how small the club believe the problem is it should still be able to stop mistakes or fraud to a greater degree .

I take it all stand season tickets are allocated a seat so season books must be numbered any DD payment could be checked to ensure payment made . Even opening the season ticket gate in the ground with a checklist of those who are not paying for whatever reason . I think it is testament to the lax attitude that they don't see it as a big problem . There does not seem to be any big problems at Cappielow except for the small number of those who like nothing better than a good old moan.

They would say that-wouldn't they? Those who wish to be reassured will be reassured. Those who wish to know the truth won't.

QUOTE(ton5saints1 @ Jun 22 2008, 01:42 PM) [snapback]464685[/snapback]
To Mabawza - Surely if Mr Donald is listed a director of Morton Football Club in any capacity whatsoever, whether it be co-opted, executive or non-executive, I would assume he would be listed at Companies House.

I didn't become embroiled in this debate until quite a number of fans started to question his involvement and possible investment in our club.

There is no trace of Mr Donald in any reports on the official website and he failed to send an apology to the recent e.g.m. (which either shows a complete contempt to shareholders or suggests he is NOT a director of the club).

So is he, or is he not, a director of Morton F.C. ?

And that remains THE legitimate question.

Until somebody comes up with proof-for example an official listing at Companies House in compliance with the LAW, the legitimate question will continue to be asked.

Those who just want everything to be in order should not, IMO, be attempting to muffle the enquirers.

QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 22 2008, 02:05 PM) [snapback]464698[/snapback]
I understand you are the messenger in this case and your information has come from sources at the club but I think you are being guilty like a lot of Morton fans on here that don't want to believe their is lots of avoidable failings going on at the club.

Although I have no doubt the club will look into the season ticket scam, I believe they will bearly scratch the surface. They will not do it as thoroughly as they should/could because they do genuinely believe that it's not as big a problem as it really is.
Unless the laws of probability are way way out here and people are telling me and have been telling me lies I believe the problem is far worse than anyone at the club could imagine and this has been going of for at least 4 years now, I've heard (aye ok it's hearsay).

I actually would expect snide comments from club employees like I got one for free and so did he & she thats the list up to 15 now as it would just show the contempt within the club for what is a serious problem for a club the size of Morton.

Another example of the club burying its head in the sand.

It appears to me to be more another example of the club resenting any form of scrutiny, however justified.
mortonjag 2008-06-22 15:08:10
QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Jun 22 2008, 01:51 PM) [snapback]464693[/snapback]
Fantastic idea. Not because I'll use it - because I won't, but it could keep all the twats in one place. biggrin.gif

Are you thinking of anybody in particular?
mortonjag 2008-06-22 15:18:24
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jun 22 2008, 12:18 PM) [snapback]464650[/snapback]
It's there and it's basically available, but as TiD points out we're just finalising the details on entry etc (and a mod rank for those two)

I'm also looking into buying the licence for the software the forum runs on, which will hopefully open the door to some new features, both from a front and back end perspective (oo-er). In particular the swear filter seems to be global, i.e. one list applies to the entire forum and all it's contents, and I'd like to fix that for the JVTC forum.

Any chance you could clarify who owns what, and who's in charge of what Mod?

Tontastic's always talking about the server-I presume that's a bit of equipment which anybody could purchase.

Do you just buy a server and start an unofficial forum using software which you are licensed to use?

Thanking you ever so politely in advance. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-22 15:22:27
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 22 2008, 11:42 AM) [snapback]464640[/snapback]
thought so

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mortonjag 2008-06-22 16:11:18
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jun 22 2008, 03:49 PM) [snapback]464745[/snapback]
tontastic owns the server that hosts the forum, and this is a voluntary service which he generously provides free of charge.

I am essentially "in charge" as selected by the previous head moderator nach0king, and the moderator duties are shared between myself, tontastic and Bryan (when he can be bothered!) with the final say being mine on all issues...if indeed I feel 'my say' is necessary.

ThornTon looks after the MoTM area, Bobo looks after the supporters club area, and TiD and Boozie will look after the new forum. Those with responsibility for individual areas have responsibility of those areas only and can't perform general mod duties elsewhere.]

And there's obviously some self-policing going on as well...


Many thanks-and here was me thinking Bryan was a fastidious chap! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-22 16:47:10
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jun 22 2008, 04:19 PM) [snapback]464754[/snapback]
Sorry - can't be arsed reading all of this material (although the answer to my question might be there) My question is
- Why are you asking this on an unofficial message board ? 1/If you are a shareholder, write to the club. I apologise if you have done and not received a reply. 2/If you are a trust member surely Jim McColl would be in a postion to help (If not, why not ?) Perhaps if this thread reaches 500 pages ( and MJ will attend to that side of things rolleyes.gif ) you may get an answer on here , otherwise check with the organ grinders (and leave the monkey out of it)

Cloth ears-I've been missing you my old friend. You could, of course, have read the thread-skim reading would only have taken a couple of hours, but to save you the bother, let me fill you in.

Point 1/ The club has stated that Mr Donald is a director-he appears on the official match day programme as a director. David Irons mentioned 'Alistair Donald and The Board' in his radio interview after the last match of the season. It would surely be safe to assume that Mr Donald is indeed perceived within 'Cappielow' to be a director He is not, however, named as a director at Companies House despite Arthur Montford's and Ian Brown's resignations being listed-changes to the Board composition which occurred FIVE MONTHS AGO at virtually the same time as Mr Donald 'joined'.

Point 2/ The Trust was invited to answer the question on this forum and declined. A trust member, I believe, specifically asked the question in private some two weeks ago. Unless I am very much mistaken, no answer has been forthcoming. Your 'why not' becomes relevant in those circumstances!

I believe you are either playing devil's advocate (you wouldn't dare!), or your naivety is greater than I'd previously imagined when you talk of getting answers from the 'organ grinder' blink.gif

In those difficult circumstances, the monkey will indeed keep probing for the truth. Concern and interest from many posters and potential investors has been expressed repeatedly on this pubic massage board. The club is aware of what goes on here.The club has its informants and is free to read the forums. The club is WELL AWARE of the current concerns but chooses to remain silent.

The monkey wonders why.


Edit-apologies to others for some repetition.
mortonjag 2008-06-22 16:57:01
QUOTE(Savo @ Jun 22 2008, 04:30 PM) [snapback]464768[/snapback]
Why thank you, Sir biggrin.gif . FWIW, I find your fitba posts well-informed stuff too. Oh, and that Bobo Balde/Faddy one this morning was a belter haha.

There's plenty of incessant pap talked on here by some at times, but there's actually a good few folk on the board who offer plenty of interesting contributions. I won't do a list because I'll inevitably miss someone out and look like a tit.

Does that mean that some others' opinions don't concur with yours, or does it mean that you believe you are always correct in the same way as Mortonjag knows he is?
mortonjag 2008-06-22 17:14:12 I hate it when it happens to us, so I reckon it would be good for stimulating more atmosphere. For several seasons folk have complained about the lack of fan rivalry at Scapa. Surely this would help!
mortonjag 2008-06-22 17:17:36
QUOTE(Savo @ Jun 22 2008, 05:12 PM) [snapback]464783[/snapback]
Just you take it to mean whatever you want, old bean, you will anyway smile.gif
I notice you didn't reply to the post on the Jimbo thread btw, which is most unlike you.
I wonder why?

I always reply to direct questions. I shall retrace my steps! blush.gif


AND NOW I HAVE YOUNG MAN! laugh.gif

I already said Jimbo's knock down fee would pay wages for a left winger for a full season, and we'd have somebody who could regularly get decent crosses into the box.

You asked me to name names-Spurtle told you I don't, and I added------


Correct Spurtle-Mortonjag is too busy going to Morton matches-home and away-all season to do any scouting. dry.gif

Mortonjag is also too honest to trawl P & B and shamelessly plagiarise others in order to look 'informed'. dry.gif

Mortonjag's TV licence expired long ago, and he has been unable to watch replays of all last season's SFL matches. dry.gif

I liked the Croatian goalie's kicking and throw outs last night. (Benadette next door invited me in) We need a goalie. Now that they're oot yon cup maybe DI could put in a bid for him in exchange for JIMBO. dry.gif


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mortonjag 2008-06-22 17:31:22
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Jun 22 2008, 05:22 PM) [snapback]464787[/snapback]
I think it takes away any spontaneity from the goal celebrations; also I doubt there is any piece of music that everyone would enjoy.

Can you elaborate-everybody is spontaneously joyous-give it a ten second delay, then Inverally blasts the opposition with 'get it up you' music!

GRRRRRRRRRRRREAT! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-22 17:54:32
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 22 2008, 05:30 PM) [snapback]464789[/snapback]
No music after goals for me, get rid of Cappie and the cheerleaders as well. thumbdown.gif

The maister would be devastated! ph34r.gif

QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Jun 22 2008, 05:33 PM) [snapback]464794[/snapback]
It shouldn't be up to Inverally to supply the "get it up you" music - it should be supplied by the cowshed!

In theory-AYE-but it doesn't happen. The away crowds have been tremendous on many occasions-the same guys are at Scapa yet there's something missing at home.
mortonjag 2008-06-22 18:03:53
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jun 22 2008, 05:46 PM) [snapback]464804[/snapback]
Thanks for the synopsis MJ. Is the registration issue not a minor procedural blip as others have suggested ? (may in fact be poor admin at Companies House as someone else hinted)
If individuals showed the same persistence in pursuing an answer from the the club as they have on here , Im certain that an answer would be forthcoming.

As for the club remaining silent - could it be the case that they are completely confident that there are no irregularities on their part and they choose not to communicate through an unofficial messageboard where individuals have (some in jest maybe) maligned the integrity/competence of the board/club administration.

or maybe they are just giving folks enough rope with which to do the inevitable to themselves if this continues.

As I've said before, the question deserves an answer - it's all about the way you ask it imho.

Of course it could, and I've been promised a definitive answer by close of business tomorrow!


So far as the club is concerned, there is ample evidence to show that they are super meticulous in every aspect of organisation. That is why I am CERTAIN they would have already 'pulled up' Companies House for a silly omission of the type you suggest.

As to giving paying fans enough rope to hang themselves-don't be silly-Mr Rae is extremely sensitive to the fans feelings. He'd never want to hurt them in any way.
mortonjag 2008-06-22 18:15:56
QUOTE(Savo @ Jun 22 2008, 05:41 PM) [snapback]464800[/snapback]
I'd already seen that, MJ.

I thought it rather odd you asked me for a reasoning, you got one, and then replied (to someone else, Colkitto) answering one of the questions, but not the other. I noted your response on the replacement point.

But I'd also argued Jim had done a hell of a lot more than 'huff and puff to little effect' and asked you if you stood by selling him for such a knockdown fee - was genuinely interested to know if your view had altered.

I think I can now safely assume you would accept 20k - and you are perfectly entitled to hold to your opinion.

Incidentally, I don't know why you feel unable to offer an view on prospective targets though; remember we play teams 4 times a season, you'll see a fair bit of players through that alone? Anyways...

I believed I'd already made it clear that I'd prefer a competent left winger if we could get a knockdown £20,000-£30,000 for Jimbo, so I fail to see what question remains unanswered.

IMO there's little point in tallying up assists and a relatively few goals in an attempt to justify playing him on the left, and there's no room in the middle with the signings we've made. In a bigger squad-as with Greacen, and Superkev-aye. I've pointed out that Pantaloons was causing more havoc in the box in the last few matches, than all the crosses we put over all season, and he was just throwing the ball in!

We NEED somebody who can get decent crosses over.

Oh and I know we're on the wrong forum now-I bet Mortonjag gets the blame as always! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-22 18:21:37
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Jun 22 2008, 06:05 PM) [snapback]464817[/snapback]
I don't think it's anything to do with music being played after we score - music was played after we scored during the season before last and despite winning the league the atmosphere was still pretty dreadful (most weeks).

I'd argue that the best way to generate atmosphere is to get a skillful and more importantly (visibly) committed team on the park, get that sorted and the atmosphere will follow.

It's been so long since we saw exciting attacking football-I agree with that point, but it still doesn't explain how we seem to unite as an away crowd and make ourselves well heard, while at Cappielow we're like mice.
mortonjag 2008-06-22 18:28:06
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jun 22 2008, 06:22 PM) [snapback]464825[/snapback]
I quite liked the one that was played on the run outs lastseason, the one that goes "do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do d do............................................ cant get no" My boy tells me it was Insomnia. (yes, he got it from the above description)

Here, I fancy one of those too-is it just board and lodgings?
mortonjag 2008-06-22 18:34:21 bouncy.gif rip.gif bouncy.gif

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mortonjag 2008-06-22 18:36:47
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 22 2008, 06:33 PM) [snapback]464833[/snapback]
have you been in touch with mary davidson?

More than once Alistair.
mortonjag 2008-06-22 18:41:02
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 22 2008, 06:34 PM) [snapback]464835[/snapback]
Spammer.

I've told you before darling, I'd rather be a spammer than a snail-yes I would!
mortonjag 2008-06-22 19:31:56
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 22 2008, 06:50 PM) [snapback]464856[/snapback]
did you not get an answer? 1eye.gif

I got several answers Alistair.
mortonjag 2008-06-22 19:33:46
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 22 2008, 07:12 PM) [snapback]464880[/snapback]
General pish for this Nonsense!

Why would Shoogly's spy bother with general nonsense?
mortonjag 2008-06-22 19:35:54
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jun 22 2008, 06:44 PM) [snapback]464851[/snapback]
seems to me that you've got enough boys on here already. I've got a couple of non paying lodgers being weaned towards independant living. I'm told that some kids stay at home 'till their thirties ......................no f'n chance.



Are you calling me a POUFFE?
mortonjag 2008-06-22 19:41:59
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 22 2008, 07:29 PM) [snapback]464893[/snapback]
Agreed. Probably just the Space Time Continueum being disrupted again.

Welcome back Spurtle-did you get bawheid's autograph? drink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-23 05:10:32
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jun 22 2008, 07:41 PM) [snapback]464911[/snapback]
No suggestion whatsoever of you goin' in the boys' gate rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2008-06-23 05:10:45
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jun 22 2008, 07:41 PM) [snapback]464911[/snapback]
No suggestion whatsoever of you goin' in the boys' gate rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2008-06-23 05:21:56
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 22 2008, 09:09 PM) [snapback]464954[/snapback]
Was expecting to see a grease monkey getting fed grapes by some buxom serving wench while excreting vodka from her left tit .

But nothing compares to the truth

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mortonjag 2008-06-23 05:35:50

Women will be able to buy the contraceptive pill without having to visit their doctor under a new internet service launched yesterday.

The medical website DrThom is offering three months' supply of the drug for £29.99, raising concerns from the British Medical Association (BMA) about the sale of pharmaceuticals over the internet.

The service will initially be offered to women already on the contraceptive pill but will soon be expanded to those who have never taken it before.
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A spokesman for DrThom said patients will have to fill in a health questionnaire and can be asked follow-up questions by a doctor from the website.

Clients will have to be over 18 to buy the pills and use a credit card or debit card to make the purchase.

However, doctors will have to rely on patients accurately reflecting their medical history and telling the truth about other factors, including their age.

"There's nothing to stop a patient lying when they use the service," the spokesman said, but added they were only doing a disservice to their own health by lying.

The questionnaire includes asking the woman about prior use of the contraceptive pill as well as any side-effects, pregnancy, family history of cancer and blood pressure, weight and height.

Patients wishing to get repeat prescriptions and those who have never taken it before will have to provide specific details of their blood pressure reading, but the spokesman said the company would not be able to independently verify the information.

The IT system would pick up anybody registering as being under 18 and flag that up to staff, he added, with the credit or debit card used to make the purchase required to be in the patient's name.

A spokeswoman for the British Bankers' Association said yesterday that some banks offered debit cards to 14-year-olds. The average age to get a card was around 16, she said.

The sale of prescription-only drugs over the internet has become widespread.

A 2008 survey commissioned by the Royal Pharmaceutical Society of Great Britain found that more than two million people in Britain regularly buy prescription drugs such as the anti-depressant Prozac, the sex aid Viagra and Valium, which is prescribed to treat anxiety.

The Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Authority has seized £5.8m worth of drugs sold over the internet, of which it estimates around half are counterfeit.

Although it is illegal to buy prescription-only drugs without a prescription or consultation in the UK, whether on or offline, many websites are based overseas and cannot be closed down by British regulators.

The Herald was yesterday unable to contact DrThom, which specialises in contraception and sexual health screening and has a clinic in London, in order to clarify where the company is based.

The firm is registered with the Healthcare Commission and has received research funding from the Bupa Foundation last year.

Dr Thomas Van Every, DrThom's medical director, said in a statement: "The aim of our new contraceptive service is to make it easier and more convenient for women throughout the UK to get access to the pill.

"Our specialist service is ideal for a woman living a long way from her GP or a woman who is too busy because of work or childcare to take the time to visit her GP.

"We see the DrThom service as part of an ongoing trend - a trend consistent with UK Government policy - to help women access contraceptive services as close to their home as possible."

Women taking the most commonly prescribed combined pill, containing oestrogens and progestogens, have a small risk of blood clots.

Smoking increases the risk of blood clots as does diabetes, high blood pressure and a family history of clots.

A spokeswoman for BMA Scotland said yesterday: "It is important for women who are on the pill, or who are considering going on the pill, to seek advice from their doctor or family planning clinic.

"Purchasing drugs online doesn't involve the necessary safeguards as compared to going to a GP or clinic where a patient can discuss the best pill for them and consider all the options.

"The problem with the internet is that it offers no guarantees for the safety or quality of the drugs on offer."







For what it's worth, I believe that if women wish to pay their hard earned cash to purchase a potentially lethal drug-whether it be Coke or the 'Pill', it's their choice.

Well heeled arrogant/ignorant types are better not propagating anyway. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-23 07:04:27
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 23 2008, 06:32 AM) [snapback]465054[/snapback]
Well heeled arrogant/ignorant types are better not propagating anyway.

Too late for some.

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You have them in Oz too?
mortonjag 2008-06-23 07:04:33
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 23 2008, 06:32 AM) [snapback]465054[/snapback]
Well heeled arrogant/ignorant types are better not propagating anyway.

Too late for some.

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You have them in Oz too?
mortonjag 2008-06-23 07:09:05
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Jun 23 2008, 06:54 AM) [snapback]465056[/snapback]
First and foremost, so there’s no misunderstanding here and now, I have no issue with Boozehound at this point. The issue is (and was) dead and buried. Since, however, he did chime in, I’ll explain what happened from a sober point of view….

And no, Boozehound, you have nothing to fear from me, even if you speak your mind here and now. It’s cool. smile.gif
Here’s what happened, from my point of view:
Yes, Boozehound (and a few others) were checking out said barmaid. I was standing near my wife (she was in a booth against the wall, just to the right of me, talking to either the wife of JerseyTon or GurnseyTon...or both), and Boozehound and his group were to the left of me. My wife saw that her shoe was untied. She got up from her seat and she went to one knee on the floor to tie her shoe (her back was turned to Boozehound, so he could basically see her rear end). As I was watching her, I saw Boozehound go to one knee down behind her (but not close), and he did a motion with his hand (moving side-to-side, like a slapping motion). It was definitely directed towards my wife (as I saw it) because the barmaid had passed by a bit ago. I took it as an insult, and that’s why I reacted the way that I did. (Disrespect me all you want, but it’s a different story when it comes to my wife or other family members.)

Now, to be fair, Boozehound and I did talk about this a few years ago, and he said that he honestly doesn’t remember doing that. I believe him because he had been drinking, and I perceived him (with my law enforcement experience) to be pretty much “tipsy” as his speech was a bit slurred, and his eyes were bloodshot. (Note that I don’t drink, so I was 100% sober.) He did apologize to me for that incident, and that’s why I consider the matter closed.

One must remember and understand that alcohol can make one act/react in ways that one normally wouldn’t. I know that alcohol was the main cause of this (and maybe he didn’t realize that it was my wife, either), so I said what I did to him to wake him up a bit and to make him think about his actions. I had no intention of carrying it out (unless, of course, it happened again…which I don’t think it would’ve).

So, guys, that’s it from my point of view. Bottom line here is that the case is closed, and Boozehound is fine with me now. smile.gif
No, that thought never crossed my mind.

You should have spanked his little pink fanny there and then trick.
mortonjag 2008-06-23 07:15:27
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 23 2008, 06:52 AM) [snapback]465055[/snapback]
Anna Nicole Smith's former boyfriend Larry Birkhead has spent nearly $US3,000 at a celebrity auction scooping up lingerie once worn in a Playboy shoot by the late playmate.

Birkhead said he is trying to make sure his one-year-old daughter, Dannielynn, has an heirloom to remember her mother by.

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"I have a lot of history I have to put together that she doesn't really know about," Birkhead said. "Playboy was such a big part of Anna's career."



LINGERIE
–noun
1. underwear, sleepwear, and other items of intimate apparel worn by pouffes.
2. Archaic. linen goods in general.
–adjective
3. having the qualities of lingerie; lacy or frilly


mortonjag 2008-06-23 07:17:28
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 23 2008, 07:13 AM) [snapback]465061[/snapback]
Would he have liked that ?

I'd rather not say.
mortonjag 2008-06-23 07:20:34
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 23 2008, 07:12 AM) [snapback]465060[/snapback]
Yes, but they usually only post once.

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I was thinking about well heeled arrogant/ignorant types, who may be ancient, but still have a lot to learn.

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Royal family

Retired politicans

etc

I was just thinking we could re-title this thread 'Well heeled, arrogant, ignorant types-DISCUSS'.

With any luck, somebody may call me a well heeled arrogant ignorant pouffe. ph34r.gif dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-23 07:22:22
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 23 2008, 07:21 AM) [snapback]465066[/snapback]
That implies that you KNOW the answer.

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but proves nothing.
mortonjag 2008-06-23 07:24:41
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 23 2008, 07:20 AM) [snapback]465064[/snapback]
Are you suggesting that Anna Nicole Smith preferred ladies ?

not at all-I was just having a thought this morning-why do self made men have wee willies and drive big cars?
mortonjag 2008-06-23 07:51:39
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 23 2008, 07:28 AM) [snapback]465069[/snapback]
why do self made men have wee willies and drive big cars?
Is that why you drive a small Saab ?

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No-it's why I have a wrinkly wee willy.
mortonjag 2008-06-23 07:53:15
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 23 2008, 07:29 AM) [snapback]465070[/snapback]
With any luck, somebody may call me a well heeled arrogant ignorant pouffe.
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1 out of 4 ain't bad.

Would that be a pommy pouffe? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-23 07:54:43
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 23 2008, 07:48 AM) [snapback]465073[/snapback]
I spent part of the weekend there Newt. rolleyes.gif

Did you speak to Bawheid Spurtle, or was he to busy with the Trumps and Soapys?
mortonjag 2008-06-23 10:01:59
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jun 23 2008, 09:56 AM) [snapback]465089[/snapback]
in terms of football matters, SALC and jonaton tend to speak the most sense
for their in depth chatter, mcarthur, edwards and nacho rank high
for sheer high quality of guff, i wouldve said mj or port ton, but their relationship is getting beyond a joke

It's been serious from the word go!

You're a nice chap too. wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-23 10:20:17
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jun 23 2008, 10:05 AM) [snapback]465094[/snapback]
as are you MJ
im just not entirely sure i want to endorse a relationship i feel wholly innapropriate, and immoral

You prefer younger men?

Quite understandable-but don't knock what you ain't tried! blush.gif

QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jun 23 2008, 10:05 AM) [snapback]465095[/snapback]
Ach, he's a dick, just like all your wee mates.

So mortonjag has a dick fetish?

f***ing ****!

Mortonjag just likes nice civil posters. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-23 10:33:58
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 23 2008, 10:25 AM) [snapback]465102[/snapback]
No Pommy poofs were ever born in Kilmacolm.

One needs to be a Sassenach to be a Pommy (**** or otherwise.)

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I was born in the Rankin!
mortonjag 2008-06-23 11:40:41
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 23 2008, 10:40 AM) [snapback]465108[/snapback]
Was the Rankin where it is now or was it in Inverkip Street in the 1940s ?

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I'm sure it was in Inverkip St, but I was very young at the time.
mortonjag 2008-06-23 11:45:18
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jun 23 2008, 10:51 AM) [snapback]465110[/snapback]
having seen port ton, and the old man photo fit everyone seems to have contstructed with regards to mortonjag, its immoral

Hmm-ageist homophobia! angel.gif shutup.gif bag.gif thumbup2.gif thumbup2.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-23 11:48:44
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 22 2008, 07:43 PM) [snapback]464916[/snapback]
Great wee day oot. Nicola was asking for ye... laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-06-23 11:52:30
QUOTE(Toby @ Jun 23 2008, 11:48 AM) [snapback]465125[/snapback]
That's pish and you well know it. If it was a Cowdenbeath fan that had said to him he'd probably have told him to shut up and sent him on his way but since it's big bad Rangers we make a song and dance about it. And nobody mentions anything about aggravating the situation with the "gloryhunter" jibes.

No wonder the Rangers fans have got this misconception that they are the people when they get everyone's backs up so much.

I know several OF fans whom I regard as decent people.
mortonjag 2008-06-23 12:16:26
QUOTE(McCauley87 @ Jun 23 2008, 12:06 PM) [snapback]465130[/snapback]
Did anybody see the new episode of Top Gear last night? I was watching the football so recorded Top Gear but it missed the end and I can't see in the TV guide if it's being repeated later on in the week sad.gif What happened or is it repeated?

Jeremy finally came out.
mortonjag 2008-06-23 12:20:00
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jun 23 2008, 12:16 PM) [snapback]465131[/snapback]
Must have been upsetting that.I can imagine how hurtful it was. Wish I'd been there, I'd have told him "no - it's the old firm fans that stink" that would of fixed him . mad.gif

You might have upset him Cloth Ears.
mortonjag 2008-06-23 16:30:00
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Jun 23 2008, 01:53 PM) [snapback]465162[/snapback]
If there has been an error, and he is in fact registered with Companies House, allowing people to breath again, does anybody know, or think they know, what his intentions are as a director of Morton with a reported £100million in the bank? Is it buying 500,000 shares?

That's the question that folk wanted answered in the first place, and it's essentially the one that matters.

There probably has been at least one error, but he's NOT currently registered with Companies House, though they are doing a 'search' and taking a helluva long time to come back! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-23 16:34:50
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Jun 21 2008, 10:07 PM) [snapback]464456[/snapback]
I agree, Michelle would never knock you back...



Nor I her. More discrimination here-this time against fatties. Michelle didn't become famous for having a useless mouth.
mortonjag 2008-06-23 16:49:42
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 23 2008, 04:17 PM) [snapback]465206[/snapback]
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Litir o Obair-bhrothaig
gu Pap Ian XXII,
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O Athair ro naomh an seirbhis Dhè ‘s ceannard mòr ro urramaicht’ le toil is cumhachd mhòrachd Dhè os cionn na h-Eaglais iomlan taght’; ar daoine uaisle saor le chèile, ceann cinnidh àrdaicht’ againn cruinnicht’, thaobh anam Alba bruidhinn treun airson rìoghachd gu lèir is aonaicht’.

Mar mhic gu sochair tro’ linntean fad’ an Eaglais filia specialis, le pròis is irioslachd san Tì a chuir sar chomharra chùmhnant naomha oirnn; mar leanabh nighean àraidh roghnaicht’, seo sgrìobh sinn fhèin an ùmhlachd trom bhur mic gu bràth, an gealladh làidir an cràbhadh fior bhur casan ‘pògadh.

Bhathas ‘tuigse, Thighearn Athair Naomh, tro’ uine fad’ measg muinntir mhòr bho Ghalile, Galatia, Gaul, Galicia nas gairge nan slògh borb’, gum bi ar laochan cliùiteach fior air saorsa grèim gu daingeann cumail; an togradh duibh cuir sinn fo riaghal - nach dànaich duin’ no dùthaich eil’,

Fad mìltean bliadhna cruaidhe trom an aghaidh Bhreatannach, Lochlann’s eile, ar n-athraichean air strì ar tìr a chumail an saors’ bho Shasainn sanntach glacail; a-nis am fianais le eachdair’ sean, an-diugh nar seasamh nar fir sìorraidh, bha againn ceud is tìr rìghrean deug gun coigrich breugach air ar rìoghachd.

Tro’ linntean dh’fhàs ar rìoghachd ‘s ar daoine beannaicht’ len athraiche naomha gu lèir mar chlann gu sònraicht’ bhràthair Phàdraig le mòran càirdeis, bàidhealachd is sochair, fo dhìon Anndra an sìth a’ còmhnaidh - gus Eideard ann an càirdeas breugach gu grad rinn cogadh garg nar n-aghaidh ‘s fear cruaidh gar cur fo èiginn brònach.

Chan urrain dhaibh na h-uilc a thuigsinn nach fhaca marbhadh agus ainneart ach iadsan dh’fhuiling on Rìgh neo-airidh am mulad dubh, am bàs cho tosdach, na h-eaglaisean, abaidean uile, air sgrios am marbhadh brùideil borb gun chiall, nach seachainn bodach, bean no leanabh, gun urram air na sagairtean bàidheil.

Rinn Raibeart treun ar Prionnsa gaisgeil stri mhòr mar Iudas Maccabeus, a chur ar cùl bruadaran Shasainn le aintighearn a chaoidh nar riaghladh; tro’ bhliadhna trom, chridh’ treun a’ cumail gu maireann, fad cruaidh chunnart’ mòr a’ dìon le sgiath nas cinntich fìor a mhuinntir sheas air taobh na h-oighreachd.

Chuir sinn air àirde Rìgh na taghadh, fear glèidhidh treun air saorsa Alba, a rugadh ‘na rìgh is ‘na dhuine fiùthail, airson sin tha sinne deas ri sabaid. Ma strìochdas e anfhann gar trèigsinn, sin bitheamaid grad ‘n Righ ud a dhiùltadh, ma ghèilleas e fhèin ri seirbhis Shasainn, ‘n sin Rìgh nas fheàrr bidh sinn a’ taghadh.

Chan fheum sinn dearbhadh a-rithist an glòirbhinn mhòr an sgeulachd Alba, cha chuir sinn earbs’ an airgead mealltach, chan iarr sinn ràiteachas gun fhiù, cha bhi sinn gu dìlinn a’ gèilleadh fo thràillealachd ìsle Shasainn amh, cho fad’s a mhaireas ceud a-mhàin glèidhidh sinn gu treun ar saors’ gu bràth.

Aon lagh air Iùdhach is Greugach a-mahàin mar sin an Alba ‘s Sasann cuideachd, bidh an Tì as àirde toirt a bhreitheanais air uilc fad bliadhn’ dorcha dòrainneach. A Thighearn, tha sinn ag achanaich, cuir stad air sannt Rìgh ud na h-uile Sasuinn a tha leis an talamh nas mò ‘na fheum far an d’fhuair seachd Rìghrean sàsachd.

Is sinne an còmhnaidh nar dùithacih bhig, chan iarr sinn ach rudan is leinn fhèin, sin innis dha leig dhuinn bhith ciùin, ar sìth a ghealladh tha sinn deònach. Chan urrain dhuibh gu dearbh seachnadh bhur dleasnas soilleir, Athair as naomha, mus fhaic am pàganach peacach Eaglais ‘s a h-ainm dol sìos am masladh grànda.

Sin Cronaich Rìghrean an leisgeil bhreugaich nach urrain dhaibh Tir Naomh a’ chuideach, a chionn a’ chogaidh an aghaidh nàbaidh, ‘s iad trang aig creachadh an coimhnearsnach; is aithne do Dhia a leugh an cridhe - gun eallach Eideard, bhitheamaid deas le aoibhneas saorsa thoirt don Tìr, ‘s an làthair Eaglais bheir sinn gealladh.

Nis deanamaid ùmhlachd duhibh mar mhic is a bhith taitneach daonnan d’ur toil, ach seasamh an seo am fianais ar Dia is feumaidh sinn ar comhairle fhoillseach - na gabh gun dearchadh fascal Shasainn, na cuir ann bhur muinighin neochiontach, neo-chùramach na dèan ar tilgeadh an cogadh dòrainneach brònach fuileach.

Gach olc a chuireadh iadsan oirnne, am mulad ceudna ‘s e an dìoghladh leinne, a Dhè as Àirde, na cionta sin cho uabharr, dona, fo chùnntas cuir-sa; bithidh sgrios gu lèir air àitibh uile, ma chumas sibhse bhur taic ri Sasainn an casgradh diabhlaidh air corp is anam aig airseirigh feumaidh sibh am freagradh.

Do chathair Dhè bheir sinn ar cùis air beulaibh an Rìgh ro Mhòr ar breitheamh; ar n-inntinn uaith ri fòirneart a’ cathadh an ainm Dhè is earbsa Chrìosd, gu robh ar Dia a’ deònach dhuinn a’ mhisneach làidir treun is seasmhach, gun cumadh sinn ar cinneach saor ‘s gu’n còpadh sinn aintighearnas daingeann.

Gu maireadh sibh an seirbhis Eaglais a’ bhliadhna 1320 beannaicht’; bho Obair-bhrothaig Giblean sèathamh an còigeamh bliadhn’ deug an Rìgh roimh-ainmicht’.

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"Agus beimid inr n-aoir ar do shonsa, a Thiarna, ar do shonsa, tcumhacht tagtha anuas do lmh ionas go gcomhlonadh r gcosa do thoil go tapaidh. Sruthimid ar aghaidh mar abhainn chugat Agus pldaithe le hanamacha a bheidh sgo deo."



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mortonjag 2008-06-23 16:58:18 Every time this old chestnut comes up, some folk tar all OF supporters with the same brush.

Done in jest-it can be very funny.

Just don't kid yourselves that the AVERAGE OF fan is any worse a person than the average bigot. He's not.
mortonjag 2008-06-23 17:04:37
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 23 2008, 01:39 PM) [snapback]465156[/snapback]
Reported. w*nker.
Newton i feel morally obliged to tell you, that i am infact all man!....well mostly. Referring to me as she, as strangely erotic as i find it, should probably stop now...for both our sakes. smile.gif
edit to add: two of the last three people i've quoted have called me " she ". who exactly here thinks im a girl?? mellow.gif

laugh.gif --I KNOW you're not, Petal.

QUOTE(princessTON @ Jun 23 2008, 03:11 PM) [snapback]465184[/snapback]
my favourite poster is me smile.gif

Question was WHY Princess! unsure.gif

QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jun 23 2008, 03:58 PM) [snapback]465196[/snapback]
I thought you were a girl, a bit of a trollop actually. oops.gif

Leave Petal alone-she's nothing like a girl.
mortonjag 2008-06-23 17:11:24
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jun 23 2008, 05:06 PM) [snapback]465219[/snapback]
hello welcome angel.gif

You might as well remove the aureole Princess.

Kent's further away from Jason than Greenock! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-23 17:13:13
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jun 23 2008, 05:09 PM) [snapback]465221[/snapback]
Get him. I doubt we could find a better keeper.

HERE GOES ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-23 17:28:50
QUOTE(Jackie @ Jun 23 2008, 05:15 PM) [snapback]465225[/snapback]
I do Jamie.

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mortonjag 2008-06-23 17:31:42
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 23 2008, 05:15 PM) [snapback]465227[/snapback]
But we could get a cheaper one.

What's the asking price?
mortonjag 2008-06-23 17:37:14
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jun 23 2008, 05:15 PM) [snapback]465226[/snapback]
Let's call it McAnespie.

McAnespie Dolphin doesn't sound right.
mortonjag 2008-06-23 17:39:46
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Jun 23 2008, 01:46 PM) [snapback]465160[/snapback]
Watching Wimbledon, Sue's had her coat of Ronseal for the fortnight I see!

According to the tin it should last a bit longer.
mortonjag 2008-06-23 17:43:52
QUOTE(grnklad2006ton @ Jun 23 2008, 05:35 PM) [snapback]465236[/snapback]
Agree with that, we should sign him. On this board just now the 2 people that i think we will sign would be Innes and now this keeper but when is Irons back in town. Can nothing be done without Irons say so blink.gif ? does the chairman not have a say or that if irons is away????????? i do think that we will get those 2 and thats our whack rolleyes.gif . Even though we need a goal machine blink.gif .

That beats 'his arse fits my hand like a glove' by a long way!

Post of the summer! bag.gif wacko.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-23 17:46:29
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Jun 23 2008, 05:44 PM) [snapback]465242[/snapback]
Boom..............................boom.

You ever considered stand-up?

Very cruel.
mortonjag 2008-06-23 17:55:25
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jun 23 2008, 05:47 PM) [snapback]465244[/snapback]
I'd have to say Bobby Collins. I played against him at the Sports Centre in about 1969 and although he was only about 4 foot six (OK I exaggerate his smallness a bit...) he was like cast iron. Just about broke my wrist with a shot from the far end of the pitch and when you tackled him you just bounced off. Oh, and he showed us this wee trick where you stood behind a forward in the wall and when the ref was looking away you grabbed the forward's waistband and twisted. Ouch.

A nice wee guy but someone you'd want in your team as first pick every time. One of our best ever players and that's despite him being about 37 when he played for us.

Collins was not only about 4'6"-he had in his time played against the best in Britain and abroad, and stood his own, unlike some of the 'hard men' also quoted on the thread.

Definitely my all time choice for the title.
mortonjag 2008-06-23 19:00:29
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Jun 23 2008, 05:51 PM) [snapback]465247[/snapback]
It beggars belief, it really does. After all the noise they made in the Greenock Telegraph about Donald coming on board, then the Cappielow upgrade plans, stuff you'd expect to here them make an announcement about, I find it strange that they seem to be choosing not to answer this question through a letter in the paper or something.

After all the turmoil the last guy who promised to invest large sums of money put us in, why are the Club so incompetent in communicating with their own supporters about such an important issue?

It certainly appears a FAR more important issue than Mr Rae worrying this time last year about being 'bullied into signing players'. He knew EXACTLY the questions we were all asking then, and wasn't slow to get his usual punch in at his paying customers. Is he out of training this time? dry.gif

QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jun 23 2008, 06:22 PM) [snapback]465257[/snapback]
What I find hard to believe is that for 6months our rep on the board has failed to find the answer to this question in advance of it being asked sleep.gif

Didn't The Trust think of asking this and investigating further afterall as The Trust is the 2nd largest shareholder, I think, it should have been one of the 1st questions asked.

Fair dinkum it was correctly stated he was doing an overview of the club but did no-one think to ask about timelines and if a report would be submitted to the shareholders, the folk that matter.

In fact what exactly did the committee of The Trust do to invesetigate Mr Donald's sudden acceptance by Dougie unsure.gif


That is an entirely reasonable point, and one which appears to have been evaded by the Trust. I originally asked the question of the Trust-the thread was transferred to 'a more appropriate forum' by the powers that be, and I had to re-open it in its current form.

There is a hard core of posters on this pubic massage board, which resents legitimate questions being asked. Those people claim to be Morton supporters.
mortonjag 2008-06-23 19:04:56
QUOTE(grnklad2006ton @ Jun 23 2008, 06:05 PM) [snapback]465250[/snapback]
What the fu*k is up wae you now monkey child????????? blink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-06-23 19:07:35
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 23 2008, 07:04 PM) [snapback]465269[/snapback]
Welcome to the madhouse strongbow. thumbup2.gif

Whereabouts in Kent are you from? I lived in Otham near Maidstone for a couple if years, nice part of the world.

Edit to add: D'oh, just realised it's Greenhithe you're from, what am I like. rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2008-06-23 19:11:10
QUOTE(grnklad2006ton @ Jun 23 2008, 06:00 PM) [snapback]465249[/snapback]
Dirty orange bas**rds, queen ar*e licking union jack trouble making scum. There a daft team who shout about Poofy king billy this and english queen that along with a red hand northen ireland flag then other days its a union jack, and they have the cheek to say there scottish and play in glasgow. Fuds have the cheek to start on a morton fan for nothing. There are 2 sets of fans that i am very bitter against and they are st mirren and rangers. St mirren for obvious reasons and rangers because they give scottish football a bad name, does the trouble in manchester ring ring a bell, joining up with chelsea fans to cause murder whats that all about, and now iv heard it all when i hear them start on morton fans.

Ohh i tell you mate i could think of more than just the word hun laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif .

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I actually prefer St Mirren to the Tims myself!
mortonjag 2008-06-23 19:12:46 Welcome back Willy Man.
mortonjag 2008-06-23 19:21:17
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jun 20 2008, 11:32 PM) [snapback]464072[/snapback]
It doesn't matter what the cause is. Fact is, poverty leads to crime. Don't see what point you are making.

Drug addicts / poverty... again direct relation in most cases. Obviously you get the celebrities or rich coke addicts, but that is a very small % of drug cases, and don't really cause any social problems in the whole grand scheme of things. Certainly don't cause the taxpayer much money.

Sure, there are loads of people (the majority) from poorer backgrounds who go on to get an education and make a good living for themselves. But facts remain that there is a lot of people in a circle of poverty, kids being born whose parents never worked and even grandparents etc etc.

Another fascinating gem from our Professor Piehole and his University of Life.

QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 21 2008, 12:19 AM) [snapback]464108[/snapback]
so poverty doesn't lead to crime? peoples attitudes lead them to crime. Poor People and rich people all have bad attitudes, poor people and rich people all want more than what they already have. Some poor people who want more than they have work hard for it and earn it, others choose to steal....it has nothing to do with poverty, infact poverty probably makes you try harder to achieve a life for your children that you never had, thats if you have the right attitude.

Common sense, it appears, and with it logical thinking, is not solely the province of the 'wrinkly willies'.

QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 23 2008, 06:54 PM) [snapback]465264[/snapback]
Have you ever read a single, solitary piece of scholarly research on this issue? Because everything you write is tinged with idealism and not reality.

"Poverty ought to inhibit drug use" - yes, in BIZARRO LAND.

Just sometimes, I get thoroughly pissed off with children quoting big books. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-23 19:25:32
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 23 2008, 07:19 PM) [snapback]465282[/snapback]
Cuthbert, while better than the guy we have, is still pretty poor.

I hope he doesn't turn to crime.
mortonjag 2008-06-23 19:29:28
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 23 2008, 07:11 PM) [snapback]465275[/snapback]
we know, a big whoofter. smartass.gif




Is that the same as a pouffe?

I've just had my whoofter re-upholstered? drink.gif eek.gif bouncy.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-23 19:35:02
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jun 23 2008, 07:27 PM) [snapback]465289[/snapback]
that is f***ing ridiculous! ph34r.gif

There are cheaper ways of drawing attention to oneself.
mortonjag 2008-06-23 19:38:16
QUOTE(shagster @ Jun 23 2008, 07:35 PM) [snapback]465294[/snapback]
It was very briefly Joe's Video Bar.

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mortonjag 2008-06-23 19:47:53
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jun 23 2008, 07:43 PM) [snapback]465297[/snapback]
looking to buy a new printer and i'm not really sure what to go for.
Any suggestions what make/model is the best for stuff at home- essays etc the occasional photograph. whats best inkjet, laserjet etc??
cheers in advance ph34r.gif

I've got a wee Lexmark X1270-which includes a scanner. Tesco for less than £50. It does the job quite nicely
mortonjag 2008-06-23 20:03:19
QUOTE(SramTon @ Jun 23 2008, 07:57 PM) [snapback]465305[/snapback]
Does this story have any porpoise?

The sole porpoise is to sting Rae.
mortonjag 2008-06-23 20:06:17
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jun 23 2008, 07:54 PM) [snapback]465302[/snapback]
Was it this year or last year that someone's wean was in there called Pocahontas McPherson.

I mean FFS, that lassie has to go to school.

TonInDublin

I wouldn't worry-they'll call her 'Pokey' and she'll live up to it.
mortonjag 2008-06-23 20:09:03
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 23 2008, 08:04 PM) [snapback]465313[/snapback]
Something fishy going on here

So I've been herring
mortonjag 2008-06-23 20:12:13
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 23 2008, 08:06 PM) [snapback]465315[/snapback]
Hey you, where's the link you were meant to send mellow.gif

Butchers was shut.
mortonjag 2008-06-23 20:18:04
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jun 23 2008, 08:12 PM) [snapback]465319[/snapback]
Something mamally doesn't quite have the same ring to it really. blink.gif

Poor McAnespie Dolphin was just in the wrong plaice at the wrong time.
mortonjag 2008-06-23 20:23:11
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 23 2008, 08:18 PM) [snapback]465323[/snapback]
You've blown a hole in this topic now, haven't you?

It's a whale of a topic-I wonder if Mr Salmond will lend some political mussel
mortonjag 2008-06-23 20:25:57
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jun 23 2008, 08:17 PM) [snapback]465320[/snapback]
Welcome Strongbow ! You'll meet those nasty Blackthorn cousins on here shortly. A certain poster rolleyes.gif has posted 5 times on yer thread........................ you'll soon get the hang of it .

SIX-Cloth Ears! bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif crying.gif eek.gif drink.gif nerd.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-23 20:29:55
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 23 2008, 08:23 PM) [snapback]465327[/snapback]
I doubt it - all of his current proposals are floundering.

He could at least mullet over
mortonjag 2008-06-23 20:31:32
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Jun 23 2008, 08:26 PM) [snapback]465331[/snapback]
Irons is back in town! wink.gif

Great-maybe he'll tell us about Mr Donald.
mortonjag 2008-06-23 20:33:07
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jun 23 2008, 08:27 PM) [snapback]465332[/snapback]
laugh.gif Anticipated my next post there.

SEVEN NOW

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mortonjag 2008-06-23 20:36:34
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 23 2008, 08:33 PM) [snapback]465336[/snapback]
The Tele is just another Labour rag mad.gif

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Red rag to a bull Spurtle! bag.gif drink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-23 21:16:26
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 23 2008, 09:01 PM) [snapback]465354[/snapback]
Welcome Strongbow smile.gif

i can't help but feel having never been to cappielow and also not seeing what Morton fans are like on here yet, that i'll give you a week before you start supporting someone else laugh.gif 40 years down the drain sad.gif

Or he may become well kent.
mortonjag 2008-06-23 21:21:32
QUOTE(se65an @ Jun 23 2008, 09:00 PM) [snapback]465353[/snapback]
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I think you meant


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mortonjag 2008-06-23 21:26:06
QUOTE(edd @ Jun 23 2008, 09:02 PM) [snapback]465355[/snapback]
i agree with piehutt and don't really see any controversy in what he's saying.
where did that come from? that's clearly not what he or anyone else was saying at all

Poverty does not inevitably lead to criminal behaviour.

Criminal behaviour is not inevitably the result of poverty.

Piehole tends to be somewhat simplistic.

There is a definite link between criminal behaviour and poverty in West of Scotland society.
mortonjag 2008-06-23 21:28:09
QUOTE(SramTon @ Jun 23 2008, 09:22 PM) [snapback]465374[/snapback]
Or cause you to fall off your perch.

and go off in a fit of pike
mortonjag 2008-06-24 05:11:04

Education officials at an SNP-led council have warned a multimillion-pound cash injection is needed to meet the Scottish Government's manifesto promise to reduce class sizes.

West Dunbartonshire Council officers have investigated the costs of cutting primary 1-3 classes to 18, and have come up several million pounds short.

The council, a minority-led SNP administration with the support of independent councillors, had previously passed a motion stating parents, pupils and teachers had been "seriously misled" by the SNP on their promise to reduce class sizes.


The motion, passed by a majority of Labour councillors after some administration councillors were absent, instructed officials to carry out a detailed study into the costs associated with a reduction to 18.

The study, which, had the full nine SNP and two independent members voted, would not have seen the light of day, has concluded the Scottish Government will need to find a total of almost £7m to allow the pledge to be met in West Dunbartonshire.

Terry Lanagan, executive director of education services, said, in the resultant report to councillors, the move would require considerable capital and revenue costs.

He said: "It is estimated that the total cost of adapting, extending or providing temporary classrooms for West Dunbartonshire schools as required to deliver class size maxima of 18 in P1-P3 would be approximately £6.1m. This would be a one-off capital cost, although it might be necessary to make further one off investments in future years in light of roll variations.

"Within the current financial settlement, a sum of £378,000 has been made available for capital projects, aimed at reducing class sizes in West Dunbartonshire schools."

It is estimated West Dunbartonshire, with 34 primary schools, would need an additional 21 teachers to deliver the reduction costing in excess of £800,000 a year.

Mr Lanagan added: "At present it is unclear how the costs would be met."

Across the council's primary school estate only seven have 18 or less in P1, and only one, is currently below the 18 level for P1-P3. Some classes are as high as 29 in P2 and P3. However, the SNP administration accused Labour councillors of playing politics and said a shake-up of the authority's primary schools would, in time, deliver the government policy.

Iain Robertson, leader of West Dunbartonshire Council, said: "The motion was politically motivated. The facts are our primary schools estate is well under capacity, with far more space than pupils.

"We are now consulting on phase two of our schools regeneration programme.

"We are confident that after consultation we will be able to accommodate the government target of class sizes of 18. The report is a basic factual report that in the current situation is accurate. There is no argument about that, but it can't be considered on its own, without the regeneration plans."

The Association of Directors of Education have submitted a report to the Scottish Government estimating that an extra 2173 teachers would be needed across Scotland, costing £62m a year, and 900 additional classrooms costing £360m.

They predict fewer placing requests would be approved, leading to parental dissatisfaction, and that catchment areas may have to be redrawn. They also note it would be misleading to suggest a simple link between small classes and improved attainment, with research being inconsistent, concluding other options may be more cost effective in raising attainment.

Rhona Brankin, Labour's education spokeswoman, said: "This goes to show what Labour has continued to assert is absolutely true. The SNP cannot be trusted with Scotland's schools.

"Teachers have already highlighted a series of concerns to us from class sizes to helping pupils with additional support needs.

"Fiona Hyslop is ignoring the truth about Scottish education under the SNP. Her party is failing pupils, parents and teachers across Scotland. Rather than chasing headlines she should instead chase real improvements."

A Scottish Government spokeswoman said: "We have made clear the local government settlement specifically included a special provision to maintain teacher numbers nationally at around 53,000 in the face of falling school rolls, and that by doing this local authorities can reduce class sizes.

"We have increased funding to local government by more than 13% over the next three years, providing £34.9bn. For each of those three years, we are also spending a higher percentage of our overall budget on local government than the position we inherited from the previous administration




Promises,promises, promises.

Power without responsibility STINKS.
mortonjag 2008-06-24 05:53:10
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 24 2008, 02:07 AM) [snapback]465472[/snapback]
Long time no hear from you .

Actually I'd say that you have made some of the most valid questions on the whole subject . Considering the reasons we have a Trust in the first place you'd have thought that they would be asking the questions about his involvement and longterm plans



Indeed Chris. In 'knee jerk' mode to 'Keeping track of the money', The Trust took HUGE steps to justify its NOT being the 'fans representative on the Board'. Jim McColl, we were reassured, is indeed the 'nice man' most of us always suspected him to be, while Stuart Duncan went to unprecedented and almost inordinate lengths to emphasise the Trust's FINANCIAL role as the second largest shareholder.

Having been forced into the open it seemed, the Trust CLAIMED it welcomed publicity on this pubic massage board. It has disappeared without a word of explanation. dry.gif

My original 'A question for the Trust' post was DELIBERATELY AND INSIDIOUSLY 'transferred to a more appropriate forum' seemingly in an attempt to protect somebody or something. Either that or it was just another attempt to muffle Mortonjag by someone who should know MUCH better. The original thread just seemed to disappear-it was not left in situ with 'moved' appended. Sometimes I genuinely doubt the motives of our 'high heid yins' on THIS forum! dry.gif

On the 'more appropriate' Trust forum, it died a death-in the throes of which Mortonjag was subjected to the usual jibes from the ever more easily identified Shooglyphiles-folk who CLAIM to have Morton at heart too! mad.gif

Forgetting all that, the thread has now attracted huge interest, yet the Trust has avoided getting involved in the debate. I was effectively told to 'back off' because I'm not currently a member, but another poster who is, specifically asked the question over two weeks ago, and STILL awaits his answer.

The representatives of the second biggest shareholder haven't a 'Scooby' about Alistair Donald it would appear-either that or they feel the need to hide something. The former is bizarre-the latter, sinister.
mortonjag 2008-06-24 06:17:16
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 23 2008, 09:58 PM) [snapback]465394[/snapback]
**Yawn**

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QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 23 2008, 10:27 PM) [snapback]465411[/snapback]
and from someone, who quite frankly should know better.
for shame...for shame indeed. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 23 2008, 10:40 PM) [snapback]465417[/snapback]
3 day ban.


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So much anger. Group hug anyone? Apart from Deego of course. That boy's got more hands than a poker game ...

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mortonjag 2008-06-24 06:19:47
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 23 2008, 09:17 PM) [snapback]465369[/snapback]
you're a complete and utter k*nt!

Don't jump to conclusions-the money's under the clock.
mortonjag 2008-06-24 06:22:17
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 24 2008, 05:57 AM) [snapback]465483[/snapback]
you being too subtle, mortonjag ?

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WOOD EYE
mortonjag 2008-06-24 06:25:55
QUOTE(se65an @ Jun 23 2008, 09:33 PM) [snapback]465382[/snapback]
No I meant

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I take it Willy Man walks like this then!

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mortonjag 2008-06-24 06:29:28 Latest: McAnespie Dolphin offered assistance by lone shark.
mortonjag 2008-06-24 06:32:15
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 23 2008, 11:13 PM) [snapback]465423[/snapback]
I can assure you no anti-English remarks were made or heard at Bannockburn.
Infact the English are invited, like they are every year, to lay a wreath to their fallen.

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Say what you like about thae Inglish, Spurtle, they're no that daft! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-24 06:36:24

QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 23 2008, 11:54 PM) [snapback]465434[/snapback]
The only good politician is a dead one , at least then they have an excuse for not answering a direct question

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mortonjag 2008-06-24 06:41:43
QUOTE(edd @ Jun 24 2008, 12:02 AM) [snapback]465444[/snapback]
poverty doesn't inevitably lead to criminal behaviour in every individual case, of course, but on the whole statistics show a direct correlation between poverty and crime - no-one disagrees with this, surely? i think that's all piehutt was saying - and these girls all trying to get pregnant is surely not going to be good for their education and career prospects, hence more poverty and more crime could well be on the way.

i mean really, how f***ing stupid are these girls?

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QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 24 2008, 12:49 AM) [snapback]465457[/snapback]
naw - was it not artificial insemination ?

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Jim the Janny in the bike shed with a pipette.
mortonjag 2008-06-24 06:50:17 Thank you once again for taking the time to contact us with your feedback.

Regards

Ross Jubin
BBC Complaints
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Ross Jubin indeed! blink.gif Jos. Rubin more like. blush.gif

QUOTE(xj2006 @ Jun 24 2008, 12:58 AM) [snapback]465461[/snapback]
yeah that was a bit of a gaffe - motto is a senile old man

I have freeview and at that very moment turned over to 301 which is the game with 5 live commentary instead

ahhhhhhhh

Lawrenson does my tits in, and I dont get annoyed easily, but he is the worst pundit ever

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mortonjag 2008-06-24 06:57:54
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 24 2008, 05:45 AM) [snapback]465479[/snapback]
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The people in England loved Pocahontas and followed her everywhere.

Pocahontas ran into John Smith while in England.

She was so upset she could not talk for hours.

She thought Smith had been dead.

Pocahontas missed her home.

England had so much fog and sickness.

Rolfe decided it was time to take Pocahontas home.

On her way home Pocahontas died at the age of only 22.



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That's truly sad.

Maybe the little Greenock child would have been better called Pocajubejubes.
mortonjag 2008-06-24 07:07:11
QUOTE(dazed @ Jun 24 2008, 06:32 AM) [snapback]465492[/snapback]
Hi Strongbow welcome to our merry band! smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif





The keeper did a hunting go
And under his cloak he carried a bow
All for to shoot a merry little doe
Among the leaves so green, O.

(Chorus:)
Jackie boy! (Master!) Sing ye well! (Very well!)
Hey down (Ho down) Derry derry down
Among the leaves so green, O
To my hey down down (To my ho down down )
Hey down (Ho down) Derry derry down
Among the leaves so green, O

The first doe he shot at he missed;
The second doe he trimmed he kissed;
The third doe went where nobody wist
Among the leaves so green, O.

The fourth doe she did cross the plain,
The keeper fetched her back again.
Where she is now, she may remain,
Among the leaves so green, O.


The fifth doe she did cross the brook;
The keeper fetched her back with his crook;
Where she is now you may go and look
Among the leaves so green, O.

The sixth doe she ran over the plain;
But he with his hounds did turn her again,
And it's there he did hunt in a merry, merry vein
Among the leaves so green, 0.
mortonjag 2008-06-24 07:48:52
QUOTE(dazed @ Jun 24 2008, 07:15 AM) [snapback]465501[/snapback]
Good grief I had forgotton about Eric Smith.....jesus he was a tough nut! I even remember him tackling a Morton player at cappielow cos he he was hanging on to the ball too long!

Didnt he eventually, although briefly I think,become the manager? and does anyone else remember that incident?

I have a memory of Eric as a balding and very stocky player who never shirked a tackle. I believe he was in football management briefly but also was involved in business (Clyde Cooperage I seem to remember).
mortonjag 2008-06-24 08:17:01
QUOTE(Rossco @ Jun 24 2008, 08:04 AM) [snapback]465505[/snapback]
The thing that I dont get is why they have seperate commentators for the Radio 5 Live coverage & the television coverage of the same game.

Was listening toSpain v Italy game on five live & it was graeme taylor & someone else & it was much better than Lawrenson & Motson it was fairly balanced & taylor even cracked a joke about how he was glad England werent there as it means its someone elses turn to get put out on penalties.
Lawrenson just tries to be witty & doesnt pull it off as Motson is so dense.

I quite often listen on five live if the game's not that exciting on the telly. When I do watch, I turn the commentary off-they are crap!

When is the new batch of spawn due BTW?
mortonjag 2008-06-24 08:19:56
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Jun 24 2008, 08:09 AM) [snapback]465506[/snapback]
Why do people quote ingham. He has no relevance today and hasn't since the early 90s. All that you are doing is bringing his views to a wider domain. It's a bit like showing some of the views on here as being representative of party policy for the main parties.

Only one person-Spurtle! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-24 08:34:01
QUOTE(Mr Toon @ Jun 24 2008, 08:24 AM) [snapback]465512[/snapback]
He was the Morton manager for a while and it was his Leeds Utd contacts which led to Joe Jordan going there. Incidentally although Joe became a Scotland star and would be regarded as a tough player, when he was with Morton he was still quite slight and more of a candidate for the 'weediest' than the 'hardest'.

I believe Bobby Collins was also instrumental in Joe going to Leeds. Indeed he was a bit of a 'fairy' at Cappielow. Brian Graham is more effective than he ever was for the Ton.
mortonjag 2008-06-24 08:37:48
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Jun 24 2008, 08:21 AM) [snapback]465511[/snapback]
Don't you have any clothes for going out in? Maybe a nice shirt or polo shirt matched with a pair of jeans. Can look attractive on the right person.

Mr McArthur may disagree.
mortonjag 2008-06-24 08:49:03
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jun 24 2008, 08:42 AM) [snapback]465516[/snapback]
It was Eric Smith who crossed the ball (from a free kick) for Carl Bertelsen to score Morton's 4th goal of 4 scored in the last 15 minutes of a game against Celtic, 3-0 down with 15 minutes to go and ended up scoring 4 for a 4-3 win - until the ref decided that between Bertelsen heading the ball and it hitting the net, he had actually blown for full time. Aye right!

I take it there's no recorded TV footage. Nowadays refs would never get off with that, EVEN against the OF.

He literally blew the whistle the minute Smith kicked the ball-thereby denying Morton any advantage from the 'free kick' he'd awarded.
mortonjag 2008-06-24 08:53:40
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 24 2008, 08:41 AM) [snapback]465515[/snapback]
Yes we are better staying silent like good little boys and girls.

Correct Spurtle, and don't you forget it! laugh.gif

QUOTE(Alibi @ Jun 24 2008, 08:49 AM) [snapback]465519[/snapback]
I think Ian Smith was just a product of his time. In the 60s, racism wasn't even called racism, and there was a sort of prevailing wisdom that anyone with skin that wasn't a fairly light pink was in some way inferior. I think better communications and in particular the internet have done a lot to enlighten people. When I was at school, defamatory jokes about black people, jews, catholics etc etc were commonplace and rarely did anyone suggest that perhaps there was something wrong with that. I think things have improved a lot since then. I don't think Ian Smith was actually a bad person, he was just acting as a result of the way he had been brought up, and that was what made him act in what we would now describe as a racist manner.

Racism and most related -isms are really a natural defence mechanism evolved over many years, to protect against possible threats from strangers. If people realised that, they might act differently.


Absolutely-it's a bit like instinctively killing a non poisonous snake.
mortonjag 2008-06-24 09:52:45
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 24 2008, 08:58 AM) [snapback]465524[/snapback]
Ingham, alas, is still relevant today. The Labour Party took his and Thatcher's ideas and 'improved' upon them. His video has one comic moment though when he says 'Blow the English and the Welsh'. Er... no thanks. The SNP video is a bit sad, I'd hoped it might expand on Salmond's piece at the end of the Ingham video about the just causes of democracy and self determination. Instead we got the appeal to greediness, the same old same old about how oil could make us all rich. And I won't take any lectures on social justice from tax-dodging, misogynist charlatans like Shir Shawn Baloney.

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mortonjag 2008-06-24 10:05:09
QUOTE(Mr Toon @ Jun 24 2008, 09:56 AM) [snapback]465541[/snapback]
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It was Eric Smith who crossed the ball (from a free kick)

It's funny how you remember some parts of a game and not others. I remember Boyd breaking through just over the half-way line and the referee blowing for a foul for Morton even though they clearly had the advantage, but if you'd asked me I would have said that it was Boyd who took the free kick.

I was behind the goal at the Wee Dublin end and when Bertlesen headed in the place went mad for all sorts of reasons because there was no separation of fans then, but also very little trouble.

I can still see Hugh Strachan standing in front of the referee looking incredulous and clearly asking for some sort of explanation; and then the back page headline in the Sunday Mail: MORTON 4 CELTIC 3.

How can it be that some people in Scottish football still can't accept that the pressure on referees from the Old Firm fans and establishments is such that they always have and always will get these kind of decisions going for them? Does it ever go the other way?

Funnily enough I'd ALWAYS remembered Johnny Boyd taking that free, but I've heard it attributed to Smith so often recently that I just accepted I was wrong! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-24 13:01:17
QUOTE(Mick @ Jun 24 2008, 11:16 AM) [snapback]465574[/snapback]
I don't think this is justified at all. Agreed, perhaps controls could be better but I'm absolutely convinced that we wouldn't be the only Club who manage to 'lose' a few season tickets.....? In any case, perhaps if individuals did the right thing (dare I suggest making the Club aware of the 'issue') rather that talking (endlessly) about it on here, we might be in a better place....

You are entitled to your opinion. It appears you now represent a VERY small number who think as you do.
The season ticket incompetence is merely the tip of an iceberg.

QUOTE(Mick @ Jun 24 2008, 11:19 AM) [snapback]465575[/snapback]
No offence intended, but if it turns out that this thread (and many, many more like it) are spurious then there's reasonably only one poster to look at.

Why should the Club respond to every single 'perfectly reasonably and legitimate question' - FFS, with MJ's post count alone, they'd need to employ someone solely dedicated to the task!!

There is no reason whatsoever why 'the club' should respond to MY legitimate question. It's well recorded that they only EVER respond when they wish to.

No offence intended, but your opinion in face of ALMOST 19,000 views and 400 posts, the vast majority of which appear to share my concerns, might be construed as slightly skewed.
mortonjag 2008-06-24 13:20:38
QUOTE(irvineTON @ Jun 24 2008, 12:21 PM) [snapback]465599[/snapback]
Ahh FFS!!!!!!!
Robinson is rank rotten thumbdown.gif

With news like this comin out of Cappielow, my hopes for the new season are slowly diminishing!!

'A small squad of quality players, and they want a small non quality goalie.

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 24 2008, 12:29 PM) [snapback]465604[/snapback]
I'm not happy with this news. A good experienced keeper is what we need. Not some rookie who is going to have more than his fair shre of mistakes cutting his teeth as a keeper.

On the money Spurtle.

QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jun 24 2008, 12:59 PM) [snapback]465622[/snapback]
MJ? Is that you?

Nope-take me off that daft huff button and you'll learn plenty son. This is ME now.

So they've 'already decided on the size and quality of the squad', but it will 'depend on the budget'. ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif


'May I have a box of those lovely Thorntons' chocolates young lady?

'Certainly Sir, that'll be £3.49 please.

'£3.49-you're joking surely'!

'No Sir, I'm afraid you have to pay for quality those days'.

'Oh well, I suppose you know what you're talking about. I'll have a bag of Buchanans' toffees instead'.

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mortonjag 2008-06-24 13:27:02
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 24 2008, 01:05 PM) [snapback]465628[/snapback]
Did you ever receive your official reply from Companies House btw?

I've already been promised a definitive response within two working days-on two separate occasions. I e-mailed earlier today for a dedicated 'phone number as I'm not prepared to pay a fortune in calls to Wales, only to be passed from pillar to post. As soon as I hear one way or the other I'll post.

.....and before anybody jumps on the bandwagon (they are clearly incompetent) two blacks don't make a white!
mortonjag 2008-06-24 13:34:28
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 24 2008, 10:30 AM) [snapback]465553[/snapback]
Yes, but that's because for you knowledge is primarily something to flaunt in front of others rather than something to be enjoyed/used for its own value, so other people being able to discuss any given topic without first consulting you makes you feel threatened.

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mortonjag 2008-06-24 13:39:49
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 24 2008, 12:43 PM) [snapback]465613[/snapback]
Made a similar complaint about those 2 to ITV , no reply though . Pleat
telling us all about the wonderful player Philippe Lahme and then compares him to Kenny Sanson ??

The Croatia v Germany game they were going on about this would have been the game that closed all the offices up and down the country ?

What is it with you and e-mails to commercial organisations! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-24 13:42:40
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 24 2008, 10:46 AM) [snapback]465562[/snapback]
Love is blind mate. MJ's guide dog will confirm this tongue.gif

Yeah-shagged by us both in turn and you didn't know the difference, love. wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-24 13:50:14
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 24 2008, 01:05 PM) [snapback]465627[/snapback]
With an increase in sales the Tele could bankrupt the town by making it a quarterly competition .

Fools and their money
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Some right stupid names FFS people can you imagine when they are old enough for their court appearances.

Ronaldhino Rae

Desiree Donald
mortonjag 2008-06-24 13:53:02
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Jun 24 2008, 01:26 PM) [snapback]465643[/snapback]
Some great matches yesterday, especially Hewitt.

Andy Murray's on Centre at teatime!

Hope the wee sh1t gets humpt.
mortonjag 2008-06-24 14:22:37
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Jun 24 2008, 02:11 PM) [snapback]465662[/snapback]
Why?

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'Cos he's a wee sh1t!
mortonjag 2008-06-24 14:25:34
QUOTE(Malt @ Jun 24 2008, 02:12 PM) [snapback]465663[/snapback]
I also felt that Collins comments suggested that we would sign a keeper and that would be us. Fingers crossed it is not!

Maybe we'll get an update on GMFC.net quite soon.
mortonjag 2008-06-24 14:31:38
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jun 24 2008, 02:22 PM) [snapback]465665[/snapback]
The fact that he's a petulant spoilt brat might have something to do with it. I wasn't too keen on Colin Montgomery (I know, he's a golfer) for similar reasons.

Exactly, AND has been adopted by the strawberries and cream set as their new BRITISH hero!

Mortonjag has little time for petulant spoilt brats-in case this has not come to the attention of fellow posters. rip.gif shutup.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-24 14:40:06
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 24 2008, 02:34 PM) [snapback]465672[/snapback]
And I have little time for british heroes bouncy.gif

It just seems to me that Andy Pandy is almost as much up his own arse as his Mother is a social climbing cow.

Andy Pandy still has time to grow up, mind you.
mortonjag 2008-06-24 14:48:33
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 24 2008, 02:44 PM) [snapback]465675[/snapback]
So far I have a success rate off 2 messages sent and no replies laugh.gif laugh.gif
I'll be getting a MUST DO BETTER from Tam McB if this keeps up

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You must cringe every time another blind fool comes out with-

'There's no point in asking on this pubic massage board-write to the club'!


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mortonjag 2008-06-24 14:51:22
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 24 2008, 02:47 PM) [snapback]465678[/snapback]
mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif !!! Arrggggggh!!! mad.gif mad.gif

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mortonjag 2008-06-24 14:54:05
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 24 2008, 02:51 PM) [snapback]465682[/snapback]
Told you. dry.gif

Are we planning on giving them Huns MUNNY for Oopah Loompah?
mortonjag 2008-06-24 15:05:27
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Jun 24 2008, 02:57 PM) [snapback]465687[/snapback]
It's funny how we all make judgements on someone who we don't know through the media's tinted perception of them.

It's weird how the same doesn't usually apply to football. Kris Boyd is an absolute fanny, but I'll still cheer if he scores for Scotland (I don't imagine any Scotland fan wouldn't), the same goes for many Morton players.

I don't actually think Murray is the new British hero, he's built up by the media, but he doesn't have anything like the popularity of Henman, and doesn't seem to be particularly liked by especially the English public.

I actually quite like the guy, he's an obvious world class talent (something Scotland don't have many of), and he actually speaks his mind.

You know him then? blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-24 15:10:41
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 24 2008, 03:05 PM) [snapback]465691[/snapback]
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Couldn't agree more.
What's your point caller?? laugh.gif



If we're genuinely seeing Oompah Loompah and Stewart as our two goalies, and the money's all but spent, 'A SMALL SQUAD OF QUALITY PLAYERS' starts to sound similar to equating a fart with a nuclear blast.
mortonjag 2008-06-24 15:15:24
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jun 24 2008, 03:01 PM) [snapback]465688[/snapback]
Everything, dear Weegie!

Those two are as it as well.
mortonjag 2008-06-24 15:18:17
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 24 2008, 03:10 PM) [snapback]465694[/snapback]
So why can't SpoonTon like Murray without knowing him but you can't dislike him without knowing him? blink.gif

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I am Mortonjag.
mortonjag 2008-06-24 15:22:21
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 24 2008, 03:12 PM) [snapback]465697[/snapback]
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could have been worse they could have called her Tennerbag eek.gif

Tourniquet Townsley!
mortonjag 2008-06-24 15:25:35
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 24 2008, 03:12 PM) [snapback]465698[/snapback]
That's not the point I'm making but I think you know that.

It's just that Mugabe's better at hiding it than Saddam-why don't we tell the Yanks he's good at hiding oil?
mortonjag 2008-06-24 15:29:29
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 24 2008, 03:15 PM) [snapback]465701[/snapback]
I do have a chuckle laugh.gif

Let's do it again for fun-I'll probably get banned for a week but c'est la vie!


WRITE TO THE CLUB
mortonjag 2008-06-24 15:32:57
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Jun 24 2008, 03:27 PM) [snapback]465715[/snapback]
I think the fact that people in the know like McEnroe, Connors and Borg, tennis greats, predict big things for him is indication enough of his potential.

He is still number 12 in the world, he has defeated Federer in ranking events twice, and will again I reckon.

Murray has a temper which hinders his game instead of giving it added strength at times, but I think he'll work on that. He is a good professional, he appears to have really worked hard on his conditioning and fitness. I couldn't give a rats if he is a moany wee git. For the record, he seems to be fairly popular with players on the tour. Okay he doesn't do impressions of other players like Djokavic, but he is well liked.

He is a talented tennis player, and will do something that Henman never did IMO, win a Slam. Best of luck to him this afternoon and for the rest of the season.

A talented spoilt brat is still a spoilt brat.
mortonjag 2008-06-24 15:42:28
QUOTE(EBu @ Jun 24 2008, 03:37 PM) [snapback]465722[/snapback]
The one thing to check out is the price of ink cartridges, I bought a lexmark X350 (i think) for £70 and it really does drain the ink, and with new cartridges costing £20 a time its pretty expensive, although you can refill them yourself the quality isn't quite as good.

The secret is to buy your cartridges in advance when they're on offer-either that, or get refilled, or DIY.

In the last five years I've had an Epson, a Canon, and a Lexmark-all basic models, and for all round convenience I really rate the Lexmark.
mortonjag 2008-06-24 15:46:04
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 24 2008, 03:37 PM) [snapback]465723[/snapback]
BUT DON'T HOLD YOUR BREATH FOR A REPLY rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2008-06-24 15:49:15
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 24 2008, 03:42 PM) [snapback]465729[/snapback]
Intra Venus Armstrong



Sir Inge Isaacs
mortonjag 2008-06-24 16:00:57
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jun 24 2008, 01:15 PM) [snapback]465635[/snapback]
I can't really be bothered with next season as it is tbh, and if we re-sign that clown then I think I might start watching cricket instead. The guy is easily the worst goalkeeper I have ever seen, an utter joke. If Irons really thinks Robinson is good enough, then he can bugger off as well.
Roddy McKenzie anyone? Once described as one of the best keepers in Scotland by none other than Craig Gordon, been released by Dunfermline - no shame when their first choice goalie is Paul Gallagher.

I share your frustrations.

One point in all this. How much say is Irons having, and how much are his hands being tied?
mortonjag 2008-06-24 16:33:37
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 24 2008, 01:11 PM) [snapback]465634[/snapback]

Hey Spurtle-that was a nice wee choon-I doubt if a pouffe would sing in the rain without an umbrella.

QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Jun 24 2008, 04:06 PM) [snapback]465740[/snapback]
What I mean is I quite like the impression I get. Partly through his honesty, partly because he's a very good and very entertaining Tennis player. And I'll back him cause he's Scottish. It's a strange concept really, but people tend to get behind Sportspeople from their own country...

And I wasn't removing myself from the 'All'. I get my perception of him the same way anyone else on here does, and inevitably I come to conclusions based on that. All I was saying was that as football fans we don't make the decision to support our team or not based on the personality of the players, but in other sports (the ones we care less about) we seem to make judgements on whether to want them to win or not based on this.

When one watches Wimbledon, one identifies with individual personalities.

The Andy Pandy scenario is that of the talented sprog of a well heeled and upwardly mobile Dunblane socialite behaving like the spoilt little Mummy's boy he is. He's not doing it for team mates, and he CERTAINLY isn't doing it to entertain fans. It's all about 'ME'-or more correctly, about what Mummy has programmed me to be.

That is crass. Hope he gets humpt.

QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 24 2008, 04:13 PM) [snapback]465742[/snapback]
Wimbledon, Are you excited ?
Absolutely creaming myself biggrin.gif

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mortonjag 2008-06-24 16:39:51
QUOTE(McCauley87 @ Jun 24 2008, 04:33 PM) [snapback]465752[/snapback]
Speaking of pantos, a charity panto for Paranoid Schizophrenic homosexuals descended into chaos last night when someone shouted "he's behind you"

Surprised he didn't drop his trousers, squealing 'I was mistaken'.
mortonjag 2008-06-24 16:53:04 Irrespective of Robinson's potential, he's simply not what we need. Several players upped their game near the end of last season, including Super Kev, and Wakey. That doesn't make them good players.

Robinson's still raw and inexperienced, and we'd been promised a small squad of 'quality' players.

David Irons currently has as much credibility at Cappielow as any manager since Rae took over. I think he's a good guy, and I also think he's a smart guy.

So far as I can see he's managed to beef up the squad, and I believe we'll cope better than last season, even as we stand. I'm bitterly disappointed to discover, as I always suspected, that nothing seems to have changed behind the scenes. The purse strings are drawn tight, and Davie's had to make do.

Don't be in the slightest surprised if he's away from here in a couple of seasons-maybe sooner.
mortonjag 2008-06-24 16:57:59
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Jun 24 2008, 04:36 PM) [snapback]465756[/snapback]
You really are a wind-up merchant old bean? laugh.gif

I don't think he will get humpt, if he does, I'll buy you a pie at the next match at Scapa!

Your confidence is astonishing! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-24 17:07:44
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Jun 24 2008, 04:58 PM) [snapback]465770[/snapback]
It must be nice in your simple world, where what seems obvious to you is always correct rolleyes.gif Seriously though, there's more to it than that. Andy Murray, clearly represents Scotland or Britain. You see it in the wrists bands he wears, or when he plays in the Davis Cup, or when people from other countries look into his background. It's the same thing with a player like James McFadden playing in the Premiership, people want to see him play well down there because he is Scottish and represents Scottish football. Andy Murray represents Scottish sport. Not that i'm saying that you must support Andy Murray, just that I think it's strange that so many wouldn't back him because they don't like the impression they get of him through the media. And not just in a positive way i.e. they don't care, but in a negative way i.e. they actively want him to lose.
I can't imagine what your mother was like! blink.gif

My mother is still alive and very much kicking. Six of us you know-all brought up on a solitary teachers's salary-patches on the blazer elbows, hand down shirts, one after the other into the weekly bath, and all out doing paper rounds stuff. We all got a University Education at proper Universities too!

Not much chance of any of us becoming a wee ponce like your Andy Pandy.

Would you like to meet my Mum. She did us proud, and hopefully we did the same for her. She could tell you a few stories, and she makes fantastic ginger snaps.
mortonjag 2008-06-24 17:57:41
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jun 24 2008, 04:47 PM) [snapback]465765[/snapback]
There is a slight possibility that we may be playing too many games before the season has started though, as I think 9 is a bit too much, although the rest of the post is spot on. I'm confident that attitude wise we'll be fine. Ability, on the other hand...

Exactly-we're already tied to a pretty unimaginative season IMO. We'll make ourselves hard to beat, and we'll probably get our fair share of goals, but we can forget attractive attacking football, and that's what REALLY pulls in the crowds. sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-24 18:01:16
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Jun 24 2008, 05:22 PM) [snapback]465785[/snapback]
Toke Doak

Spliff McGiff

Puffy McGuffie
mortonjag 2008-06-24 18:10:25
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Jun 24 2008, 05:13 PM) [snapback]465779[/snapback]
I said when because I was asking about the period in which she programmed you...
You actually said 'I can't imagine what your mother WAS like'. rolleyes.gif
If it's you she kicks so much then I think that explains a lot!
I actually said 'She's still alive and very much kicking'! laugh.gif
That's an awful poncey thing to say for someone who claims he isn't a ponce!

There's nothing poncey about Proper Universities you know-I'm not talking about poncey Universities-just Proper ones.

...and I DO hope that wee ponce Murray gets humpt rid raw! sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-24 18:15:22
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Jun 24 2008, 06:12 PM) [snapback]465803[/snapback]
You like to come over as knowledgeable but that chip on your shoulder continues to colour your view on everything. You know all about Andy Murray, all about his mother, his family’s roots, his motivation. The list is long and just as boring as you are. Scotland produces a world class talent once in a decade and because he is not one of six children brought up on one salary with patches in his blazer (you had a blazer, you must be posh) you write him off. To succeed he needs to be single minded. He wants to be more than an also ran. If you hope he loses then I presume you want someone else to win or as usual are you just adding your tuppence worth because you think we all need your wisdom.

Andy Murray has had to cuddle up to the English based media but his true colours are displayed on the court.

I have tried to have a rational discussion but you are still so full of your own importance that it's impossible. I shall come back in six months and see if you have matured any. thumbdown.gif

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mortonjag 2008-06-24 18:22:59
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 24 2008, 06:04 PM) [snapback]465796[/snapback]
Does it feck! Being at the top of the league pulls in the crowds, regardless of the football these days!

All I want is more wins, I'd be happy with that happy.gif

Aye it does son, and being at the top of the league AND playing attractive attacking football will ALWAYS pull in much bigger crowds than unimaginative single goal 'grind it out' pish a la JM.

The trouble is that you're too young to remember attractive attacking football at Scapa-let alone dare to contradict mortonjag.

You're too c*cky for your own good and Fing has your card marked. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-24 18:37:34
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jun 24 2008, 06:30 PM) [snapback]465811[/snapback]
What do we need then?

Experience
I agree with that, but everyone has to start out somewhere. Heck, I bet you were 'raw and inexperienced' at one point MJ wink.gif

Don't be daft.

Why is that?

Because.

Given the current football climate, that would be the same scenario up and down the country so doesn't apply more to Morton than it does to, say, Rangers or Celtic.

Not according to Shoogly's announcement when DI/DC arrived! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-24 18:41:52
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jun 24 2008, 06:35 PM) [snapback]465814[/snapback]
Bit too idealistic there. Attractive, attacking football doesn't always win matches, and if teams don't win matches then crowds will drop.

Only way crowds will come flocking back is if we're challenging at the top of the league, regardless of the quality of football (see Division Three season).

Did you bother to READ what I wrote? I'd suggest that attacking football which doesn't produce goals is unnatractive.

Pity I always have to spell things out! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-24 18:45:58
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 24 2008, 06:14 PM) [snapback]465804[/snapback]
If this were an important and worthwhile sport, this argument might be relevant.

Tennis is for pouffes, ponces, and girls.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 05:34:25
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Jun 23 2008, 10:14 PM) [snapback]465404[/snapback]
This board has been infected, what we need to cure this disease is a physician ohmy.gif ... No change that I'd rather just let this message board die than have it cured by a passed his sell by date quack. wacko.gif

I'll take that in the spirit of humour Measles. It could be construed differently. Just don't go calling me a POUFFE.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 05:48:39
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 24 2008, 11:31 PM) [snapback]465982[/snapback]
****!

You are a POUFFE

I have the PROUFFE blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-25 05:52:27
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jun 24 2008, 06:53 PM) [snapback]465832[/snapback]
MJ, you claimed you require BOTH attractive football and a challenge at the top of the league to get the crowds in. I merely pointed out that you don't.

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QUOTE(Tontaster @ Jun 24 2008, 10:51 PM) [snapback]465946[/snapback]
If Spoonsy Gets fit and works hard he will score a lot of goals

Spoonsy was, is, and always will be a striker.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 06:02:15
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 25 2008, 01:05 AM) [snapback]466015[/snapback]
mortonjag - he is expecting to hear the truth today.

Hopeful of newt.


It helps none that Companies House business is run in Wales! I suspect I've been wrong in asking the questions in English. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-25 06:06:39
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 24 2008, 07:19 PM) [snapback]465848[/snapback]
you'll have to speak to Mr Rae rolleyes.gif

shoooosh If I tell you I may have to kill you unsure.gif

what does it say in the
matchday programme happy.gif
er you again mad.gif

don't you read the Telegraph blush.gif

laugh.gif

You've been in contact too!!! blush.gif

QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jun 24 2008, 08:08 PM) [snapback]465861[/snapback]
Hence the reason the register entry on GMFC isn't up-to-date, or shouldn't I let the facts get in the way of a good story Ernie? dry.gif

Time will tell Smiffy.

QUOTE(Mick @ Jun 24 2008, 09:35 PM) [snapback]465894[/snapback]
Other than myself, I don't represent anyone on here.

As an aside, I tend not to bother too much with stats. Might be interesting to know how many of both those counts belong to you. Given your form, I'd say more than a few.....

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Nice to know you're into cloning.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 06:17:08
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 25 2008, 06:07 AM) [snapback]466029[/snapback]
Sorry, mortonjag, I thought you were going to hear from the horse's mouth.

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Oh no Newt, but I may be billing the 'horse' for my efforts to obtain the truth, when the said 'horse' could have posted a simple reassurance on GMFC.net.

I wonder increasingly why that hasn't been done! ph34r.gif


To services rendered:


Air fares
Hotel bills
Taxi fares


for a grand total of £2,300.39.


I'm just a poor little Morton fan who can't afford to be jetting all over the place. I shall appeal to 'the club' as a fellow Greenockian, and urge 'the club' to settle by return.

I suspect 'the club' may argue that 'the club' did not commission this service. Do you think it's worth a try. I'll give the money to Andy M in aid of my self aggrandisement.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 06:28:27
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 24 2008, 09:49 PM) [snapback]465904[/snapback]
That's true Col. But then might we have geezers on the SBC telling us that Scotland would've done better than France or Italy? The BBC do have a point about the multi-national make-up of their panel. Too bad Scotland is (mis)represented by that dick Hansen. laugh.gif



Television pundit and journalist

After rejecting the idea of management, when he retired from football in 1991 he planned to take three months off. After his wife pointed out that during his rest period, the telephone had not rung once, he started calling the networks!


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mortonjag 2008-06-25 06:34:43
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 24 2008, 09:57 PM) [snapback]465907[/snapback]
cider vinegar is excellent but you wouldn't feel the benefits for a few weeks. Two tablespoons in cooled boiled water first thing. smile.gif

By which route LL? blush.gif


My father in law (or ex-father in law)-which is it when you've divorced-has been drinking apple cider vinegar for about 40 years. He's now 92 and all but dead, but he's really done quite well. He's consumed a fair bit of alcohol during that period also.



DAZZA-as Boozy says it will pass off. Try rubbing in anti-inflammatory ointment like ibuprofen or diclofenac before and after you exercise, but as they say, no pain,no gain.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 06:43:25
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 24 2008, 06:22 PM) [snapback]465808[/snapback]
he sees a younger version of himself, and he used to love touching himself when he could still get it up...suppose i just bring back memories.
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Don't get big ideas my wee chookie hen.

QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 24 2008, 07:33 PM) [snapback]465852[/snapback]
i think i'm going to be sick

Excellent-vomitus is infinitely preferable to keech.

QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 24 2008, 11:18 PM) [snapback]465969[/snapback]
I love all you people! Mwah Mwah wub.gif

You will learn LL-universal love doesn't work.

I find that hating somebody every day helps me through life's little journey. It doesn't need to be anybody in particular. That would be discriminative.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 06:49:27
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 24 2008, 06:58 PM) [snapback]465839[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED
mortonjag 2008-06-25 06:53:10
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 24 2008, 09:03 PM) [snapback]465881[/snapback]
She's back..... wub.gif

And no lewd comments about this wonderful woman please. mad.gif

Kirsty Young is about as wholesome as concentrated strychnine.

I'd rather shag a chilli pepper.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 06:58:32
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 24 2008, 09:05 PM) [snapback]465883[/snapback]
Anti - SNP lies from that well known Labour Rag The Herald. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 24 2008, 09:34 PM) [snapback]465893[/snapback]
Anyone know why SNP Ceilidh Greenock for Friday night has been cancelled unsure.gif

Spurtle had a prior engagement with his manicurist.

QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 24 2008, 09:35 PM) [snapback]465895[/snapback]
Lack of Polish bar staff.

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It's always the same with Spurtle et al. If they don't appear on an SNP related thread within 5 milliseconds, you know it's the truth.

mortonjag 2008-06-25 07:05:26
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 24 2008, 06:47 PM) [snapback]465826[/snapback]
The selling of his book on the back of the Dunblane massacre did it for me.


Aye, very good son. One day you'll get a shag.



QUOTE(piehutt @ Jun 24 2008, 11:46 PM) [snapback]465987[/snapback]
I am quite glad that Andy Murray doesn't have the same hype with the English as Henman had.

Clearly they don't see him as one of their own, there's a sort of polite recoginition and obviously he gets decent support but nothing like the hysteria that was built up during Tim's annual march to the Wimbledon Quarter Finals.

Murray is a different player than Henman. Henman really only had a chance of winning at Wimbledon, and he built his game up as such. Murray has the class to stay in the top 10 for a few years and win tournaments each year.

Ok, I don't think he's a Federer, Nadal or Djokovic, but on his day he may just get a run going long enough to take a slam.

In saying that, his record in terms of rankings etc at 21 is pretty similar to Federer at that stage in his career. And if Murray hadn't been injured last summer he'd be a permanent top 10 (as he will be the Monday after Wimbledon).

Certainly his style is very watchable and he should gain decent Tennis fans as admirers because of it, rather than these English toffs wrapped in a Union Jack whom think Tennis exists only 2 weeks of the year.

Another copy and paste from Professor Piehole, the wee boy who makes Walter Mitty look like Superman.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 07:10:10
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 25 2008, 12:35 AM) [snapback]466004[/snapback]
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

At least it was posted after the watershed.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 07:13:37
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 25 2008, 12:58 AM) [snapback]466010[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

I had been thinking similarly and more recently.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 07:18:41
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 24 2008, 10:53 PM) [snapback]465950[/snapback]
Is the pump working ?

Drain the water out . Then take the back cover off .

Where the waste hose is attached is the pump what might be wrong is that something could be stuck in the impeller .

You may have to remove the pump from the hose that connects to the sump of the drum .

Usually its wires from Bras . the wifes underwires in my case .

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
Washing machine BUST

Last time I had to do it, it was a hairclip and a penny Chris. It's nice to see that some posters are not handless! laugh.gif

QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 25 2008, 12:36 AM) [snapback]466005[/snapback]
F'cking mortonjag. dry.gif

.............is pure bliss.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 07:29:26
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 25 2008, 07:17 AM) [snapback]466044[/snapback]
Watch it, the Essen Pee's copying Zanu PF. unsure.gif

Spurtle doesn't scare me Mr Bam-the only thing which scares me on this pubic massage board is the gradual realisation of how low our National values have sunk.

Mere nappy rashers, and jumped up young whipper snappers regularly think they know better than their elders and betters.

That would be bad enough in itself, but some of the petty jealousies on here are extremely worrying-folk getting themselves whipped into a frenzy over a retired bin man posing as a quack is the stuff of laughter/tears.

I think you get it a bit easier as 'a teacher', which is rather unfair considering you drove the bloody lorry.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 07:39:58
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 25 2008, 07:21 AM) [snapback]466049[/snapback]
now ... what rhymes with bliss ?

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A pubic massage poster-Chris
In public was bursting to piss
He pulled out his knob
and had finished the job
when a big polis yelled 'What is this'?
mortonjag 2008-06-25 07:42:20
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 25 2008, 07:37 AM) [snapback]466059[/snapback]
Perhaps Ms Young would prefer that you did.

Many have made that mistake.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 07:46:05
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 23 2008, 12:43 PM) [snapback]465145[/snapback]
Furking huns and tims! mad.gif

Pre-occupation with fornication often masks sexual frustration.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 07:52:34
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 25 2008, 07:46 AM) [snapback]466063[/snapback]
laugh.gif
You must've grown fond of chilli peppers by now.

I am Mr Edwards-like my Dad who was stationed in New Guinea for much of the 'War' I've acquired a very 'hot' palate.

Just a cautionary tale (from a somewhat embarrassing personal experience). If you're planning on getting amorous in a slightly more informed way than that of the 'wham bang' crowd who populate this massage board-ALWAYS wash your hands thoroughly after chopping chillies! blush.gif blush.gif blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-25 07:54:31
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 25 2008, 07:50 AM) [snapback]466066[/snapback]
Which one do you know better, Andy Murray or Kirsty Young?

Kirsty, but I'd much prefer to shag Murray.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 08:34:56
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 25 2008, 08:04 AM) [snapback]466070[/snapback]
laugh.gif
Has Mentaljag emerged from the closet?

Are you calling Mortonjag a pouffe?

QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 25 2008, 08:16 AM) [snapback]466071[/snapback]
I've heard Murray is good between the sheets but makes too much of a racquet................... unsure.gif

He prefers to be on top and squeals like a spoilt child when his service goes wide.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 08:37:52
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 25 2008, 08:34 AM) [snapback]466073[/snapback]
My old boss says you never have a 'problem' only a 'solution opportunity'.
So given the flak you've been getting about the 'late night adults only forum, where the air can get a little blue' why not create a forum specifically for the whingers on the board? It could be there not just for those wishing to complain about an English programme being too English or Rangers supporters being too thick but a whole myriad of pointless rubbish.
It could be called 'Complaints corner' or something like that. They post their complaints there and other sanctimonious posters can get together and talk about the injustice of it all. Or a bunch of impotent men can get themselves into a frenzy of non-activity, as someone much cleverer than me once said.
I think it's a winner.

I wish to complain vigorously about self opinionated clowns who suggest daft forums.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 09:08:50
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 25 2008, 08:50 AM) [snapback]466080[/snapback]
You must be right Newton. Europeans in the twenty first century are much too 'enlightened' to suffer from it now.

Shouldn't that be pre-fixed by 'some', Mr. Edwards?
mortonjag 2008-06-25 09:11:22
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 25 2008, 08:40 AM) [snapback]466076[/snapback]
Well help me establish this forum and you can.


I wish to complain about self opinionated clowns who use 'can' in place of 'may'.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 09:13:53
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 25 2008, 09:10 AM) [snapback]466087[/snapback]
Gidday David,

It seems to me that you are repeating yourself.

Or are you implying that there is one tribe north of, and one tribe south of Hadrian's Wall ?

huh.gif

There's surely a tribe North West of Bristol.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 09:54:02
QUOTE(Mr Toon @ Jun 25 2008, 08:53 AM) [snapback]466081[/snapback]
....................and now in the 'infallibility v senility' dilemma the balance is somewhat restored!

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mortonjag 2008-06-25 10:03:53
QUOTE(EBu @ Jun 25 2008, 09:42 AM) [snapback]466095[/snapback]
Cant be bothered trwaling through 5 pages to see if this has been mentioned:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/t...ted/7472796.stm

Spoonsy, Wakey, LEAFY, and Graham, are ALL strikers, and that's more than enough in a squad of some seventeen potential first team players.

We STILL need a goalie, wingers, and full backs, before our squad will be anything like complete.

We ain't going to get all of those, and we're in for another season of compromise.

I just wish we had a wee drop of money to spend.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 10:09:16
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jun 25 2008, 09:58 AM) [snapback]466099[/snapback]
So how do you explain the improvement in Greacen and Harding? That was quite obviously down to the arrival of the new management and the evidence suggest it's the same with Robinson.

We can't agree on anything these days! laugh.gif

It's quite simple really-Greacen, and Harding, and Wakey, and Kev were definitely more MOTIVATED but definitely NOT better players than they had previously proved they could be.

Robinson always struck me as an accident waiting to happen, but he was a more motivated accident waiting to happen.

mortonjag 2008-06-25 10:14:11
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 25 2008, 09:12 AM) [snapback]466090[/snapback]
That's OK, mortonjag.

You can and you may and perhaps you should.

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Then I shall, just as soon as our new complaints forum is open.

I shall complain about many, many things, and I shall demand many, many answers of many, many people, and I WILL not be ignored!
mortonjag 2008-06-25 10:16:57
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Jun 25 2008, 10:10 AM) [snapback]466103[/snapback]
Shhhhhhhh......
A clean shot between the eyes by a .50 cal sniper rifle (from 2 miles away) ought to do it....

Just make it clean please. I detest waste.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 10:20:28
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jun 25 2008, 10:01 AM) [snapback]466100[/snapback]
laugh.gif

My money would've been on midTONs to weigh in and scud him with that thing he keeps in his car door. ph34r.gif

blink.gif

He's got one too! shutup.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-25 11:09:58
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jun 25 2008, 10:46 AM) [snapback]466122[/snapback]
Morton played attractive attacking football as recently as the first half of 2003/04 under John McCormack.

I'm well aware of that! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-25 11:13:23
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Jun 25 2008, 11:02 AM) [snapback]466135[/snapback]
Haven't read this whole thread but the first player that sprung to my mind was bobby thompson, i also remember one of the big danish guys (lars christiansen i think) being a bit of a nutter (in a hard case sense) as well.

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mortonjag 2008-06-25 11:18:19
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 25 2008, 10:19 AM) [snapback]466108[/snapback]
Will or shall ?

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WILL NOT


I REPEAT,
WILL NOT
mortonjag 2008-06-25 11:22:50
QUOTE(irvineTON @ Jun 25 2008, 10:48 AM) [snapback]466125[/snapback]
Murray is a Scottish lad trying to get to the top of his profession, if that makes him a spoilt brat, a p***k etc then so be it. I like his honesty in interviews and the fact he shows his allegiance with Saltires etc on his clothes. Some of u come out with such s*** at times its cringeworthy!! unsure.gif
Because he wasn't brought up in slum, shows passion on the court & dares to say whats on his mind he is a spoilt brat & a dick? huh.gif

Wimbledon is awright btw. wink.gif

I'd blame it more on his Mummy.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 11:24:40
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 25 2008, 10:58 AM) [snapback]466129[/snapback]
My brother-in-law is a writer and I've been trying to get him to create the gameshow 'Celebrity Carcass'. Bodies of famous people are exhumed and clues given about the identity. Points are awarded for each correct answer and we all know what points make.

Promotion?
mortonjag 2008-06-25 11:26:33
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 25 2008, 10:45 AM) [snapback]466121[/snapback]
I can't comment because I don't know a thing about it, not being a member of the SNP ye see rolleyes.gif

That's a first Spurtle! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-25 11:56:11
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 25 2008, 11:35 AM) [snapback]466159[/snapback]
Sorry, TAFKAC, I had a Polish employee by the name of Tiede.

but, we never drank anything but Lech or Tyskie.

Na zdrowie.

Not another of your long line of au pair girls newt! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-25 11:59:59
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 25 2008, 11:31 AM) [snapback]466157[/snapback]
Universal. Trick .Universal wub.gif

You must get Mrs Trick a stylist. Who wears shoes with laces ohmy.gif

Maybe Trick has been hiding a dark secret!
mortonjag 2008-06-25 12:03:46
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 25 2008, 12:00 PM) [snapback]466174[/snapback]
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 25 2008, 12:36 AM)
F'cking mortonjag.

.............is pure bliss.

This post has been edited by mortonjag: Today, 06:32 PM
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Does this mean what I think it means ??

Are you calling Deego a pouffe?
mortonjag 2008-06-25 12:05:54
QUOTE(Morticia @ Jun 25 2008, 11:58 AM) [snapback]466171[/snapback]
If you are sitting next to someone who irritates you on a plane, train or bus, follow these instructions: (and maybe say goodbye!)
1. Quietly and calmly open up your laptop case.
2. Remove your laptop.
3. Start up
4. Make sure the guy who is annoying you, can see the screen.
5. Close your eyes and tilt your head up to the sky.
6. Then hit this link

This Link

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mortonjag 2008-06-25 13:40:54 ** High Priority **


GREENOCK-MORTON FC LIMITED - Company number SC3264

Thank you for your e-mail addressed to Ms Walters at Companies House, Cardiff. Your enquiry has been directed to me for reply as manager of the document examination department section of Companies House, Edinburgh.

Firstly please accept my apologies for the delay in replying to your initial enquiry.

I have checked our records for the above company and note that Mr Alistair Donald we do not appear to have received confirmation of his appointment as a director to Greenock-Morton football club. This maybe an oversight on the part of the company or it's agents, however until his appointment is received and registered at Companies House, on the appropriate statutory form, he will not be designated as a director for Greenock-Morton FC Limited.

If you require further information or assistance, please do not hesitate to contact me directly on: 0131 535 5843 or at jsclater@companieshouse.gov.uk

Yours sincerely

John Sclater
Document Examination Section
Companies House
Edinburgh
mortonjag 2008-06-25 14:04:46
QUOTE(centralTON @ Jun 25 2008, 01:45 PM) [snapback]466199[/snapback]
Has a new bar opened up there ??? happy.gif

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mortonjag 2008-06-25 14:08:06
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 25 2008, 12:44 PM) [snapback]466187[/snapback]
Stop being a sarky bitch. There will be NO racism allowed in the new forum, I can assure you.

not even to pouffes.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 14:12:44
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 25 2008, 01:22 PM) [snapback]466193[/snapback]
Maybe! A woman over the age of 20 wearing shoes with laces, to me anyway, brings to mind. A wee Scottish wummin with her sturdy hat, sturdy coat(with arms folded over a sturdy bosom) and rerr sturdy brown shoes with laces (The cover of Finding Peggy)

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New shoes, new shoes,
Red and pink and blue shoes.
Tell me, what would you choose,
If they’d let us buy?

Buckle shoes, bow shoes,
Pretty pointy-toe shoes,
Strappy, cappy low shoes;
Let’s have some to try.

Bright shoes, white shoes,
Dandy-dance-by-night shoes,
Perhaps-a-little-tight shoes,
Like some? So would I.

BUT

Flat shoes, fat shoes,
Stump-along-like-that shoes,
Wipe-them-on-the-mat shoes,
That’s the sort they’ll buy.


- Frida Wolfe -


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mortonjag 2008-06-25 14:16:23
QUOTE(mortonjag @ Jun 24 2008, 04:11 AM) [snapback]465476[/snapback]
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It is estimated West Dunbartonshire, with 34 primary schools, would need an additional 21 teachers to deliver the reduction costing in excess of £800,000 a year.
Jeez, about 40k a year to teach 5 year olds? Where do I sign up
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Perhaps the apparent innumeracy is the result of cutbacks of previous years-Spurtle take note!!!
mortonjag 2008-06-25 14:19:48
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 25 2008, 01:25 PM) [snapback]466194[/snapback]
like Henman did. 

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mortonjag 2008-06-25 14:40:37
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jun 25 2008, 02:14 PM) [snapback]466209[/snapback]
sounds like a great idea mate. Thai food is excellent and i am sure that you would do a roaring trade. Might i suggest that i think you could do rather well with a sit in restaurant doing Thai food too.

That was my original suggestion to WDE, Greacen.

'Take away' food is a hugely competitive market for a not necessarily very discriminating public.

Folk will always pay to eat out, particularly in a novel setting with high quality food and personal service.

CARPE DIEM!
mortonjag 2008-06-25 15:14:38
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Jun 25 2008, 02:51 PM) [snapback]466219[/snapback]
he either is or he isnt! (companies house say no, morton "appear" to be saying he is.. (apart from the deathly silence on the subject now)

what did the club tell you MJ?.... apart from to fck off! laugh.gif

a question that really should be cleared up once and for all... if only to bury this thread as it will not go away until its answered.

It maybe perfectly innocent, i do not understand the need for any confusion on this simple question. . . It shouldnt take a fortnight PLUS to get an answer to the question.

not the greatest at PR our morton......



QUOTE(cmdc @ Jun 25 2008, 02:54 PM) [snapback]466220[/snapback]
What responses have people had when they have asked the club directly?




The club has had more than ample time to provide documentation to Companies House since this thread was started. It appears that that has not been done. Questions asked of the Trust by myself, and by a Trust member remain unanswered.

Given the clubs's penchant for ignoring unwanted communications, I chose not to ask directly until Companies House had clarified its position.

I have now e-mailed the club, as follows, and asked directly for their view of the situation.

There is some unrest regarding Mr Alistair Donald. He is not, and has never been listed at Companies House as a Director of Greenock Morton.

What is the club’s position?


Ernie Newall
mortonjag 2008-06-25 15:34:06 Interlaken and the Bernese Oberland.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 15:39:22
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 25 2008, 03:31 PM) [snapback]466233[/snapback]
As i have stated on many times the trust knows just what was made public and we are attempting to get the trust members question answered.......

'Attempting' seems to be the operative word, despite the Trust being represented on the bloody Board of Directors.

Well I'm now 'attempting' too, and my efforts are out in the open.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 15:41:19
QUOTE(cmdc @ Jun 25 2008, 03:30 PM) [snapback]466232[/snapback]
Who was that addressed to? Gillian?

TBH, a thread on an unofficial messageboard, in the close season, is not really something I would expect the club to respond directly to, if they are even aware of it. The direct question is a different matter, so I hope you get a reply.

It isn't an issue which greatly troubles me, although the Mike Peden fiasco does show that it is a reasonable enough question to ask, and expect some kind of answer to...

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I sent two separate e-mails to two separate enquiry facilities at the club! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-25 17:04:48
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Jun 25 2008, 04:41 PM) [snapback]466265[/snapback]
Actually , has it not occurred to anyone that the Trust have just got MJ to do their dirty work for them. That they may have known all along that AD wasn't a director but rather than rock the shoogly boat, for whatever reason people may be unaware of , that they got some other mug to do it for them. If that's the case then they deserve more credit than they are getting. Very astute Mr Trust very astute. Setting up MJ to be the pain in the arse at Cappielow on your behalf.
Folk, who don't have long memories, forget that some of the guys associated with the Trust were quite adept at getting info on Scott and Co when others were unable. You may be underestimating their shrewdness and guile.

Spot Ton,Mr Trust Spot Ton. dry.gif

Mortonjag is very happy to have been of service. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-25 17:13:07
QUOTE(mortonboi @ Jun 25 2008, 04:36 PM) [snapback]466263[/snapback]
a dont think dalgleish is better than any of the strikers we have

Dalglish-not trying to be a smart arse, but it's my partner'sname and she gets upset when folk spell it wrongly! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-25 17:16:42
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 25 2008, 04:56 PM) [snapback]466279[/snapback]
Pardon my ignorance Puggsy, but who is that fine looking filly?

Puggsy's Mummy! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-25 17:36:25
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jun 25 2008, 05:20 PM) [snapback]466292[/snapback]
There is some unrest regarding Mr Alistair Donald. He is not, and has never been listed at Companies House as a Director of Greenock Morton.

What is the club’s position?
Ernie Newall

Would you say that 'unrest' was accurate MJ ? Is it not more of a case that a number of supporters had 'expressed an interest' in Mr Donalds status at the club. I just think unrest is overstating it.
Also the email is a little 'curt' and perhaps reveals your ill feeling towards the Raes. Just my obs.

I have said there is SOME
unrest-almost 26,000 views, (of which we've had nearly 2,500 TODAY), and 414 posts would suggest more than passing interest.

You think 'unrest' is overstating it-good for you Cloth Ears! ph34r.gif I don't. rolleyes.gif

The e-mail is entirely civilised, and to the point. It was written by Dr Ernie Newall-not that old Fud and renowned 'bawbag' Mortonjag, who may often have appeared ill disposed to The Chairman. blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-25 17:47:43
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 25 2008, 05:22 PM) [snapback]466293[/snapback]
pad nuer prik thai oon rolleyes.gif

Bandage one's penis? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-25 17:49:42
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 25 2008, 05:29 PM) [snapback]466295[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED...you'd still be safer on the pill!
mortonjag 2008-06-25 17:54:11
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jun 25 2008, 05:44 PM) [snapback]466305[/snapback]
Re the 414 posts, just checked - you and Chrissiboi account for 338 of those unsure.gif
Edit to add - thanks for taking the trouble to find out this piece of information - quite interesting.

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Little pink botty skelping time for you! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-25 17:57:50
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 25 2008, 05:48 PM) [snapback]466307[/snapback]
Don't expect a response from the club right away, DDF has been spotted in 'Arran 'again'. ph34r.gif

If I don't get a response within 24 hours, I shall be disappointed but unsurprised.

Getting the answer may take much longer, but the answer will be got.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 18:06:12
QUOTE(Mags @ Jun 25 2008, 05:10 PM) [snapback]466287[/snapback]
That was Kieran McAnespie.He's going for an MRI scan on his hip today.... said he's been waiting to have it done since January..!!
Mags.


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Affordable Accessible MRI
www.vistadiagnostics.co.uk High quality, immediate MRI scans in Central London from £200


Shoogly indeed appears skint!
mortonjag 2008-06-25 18:12:26
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 25 2008, 06:08 PM) [snapback]466314[/snapback]
Hi , Can I say how much I love FudgyWudgy's and I am always fubbling in my trouser pocket for some of those Striped Balls , oh how I love sooking on them .
Can I also say what a marvellous struggle you have made in getting the club to the heady heights of a relegation battle for 1st Division survival .
yours respectfully ,
mortonjag .

PS Alistair Donald whats the sketch ?(a) Director , (b)nonexec ,©planning a buyout (d)doesn't exist

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PPS I'd stick my tongue right up yer erse if it wasn't for half a dozen others permanently lodged there.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 18:18:43
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 25 2008, 05:55 PM) [snapback]466310[/snapback]
The caps are so inelegant................

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDShe'd DEFINITELY be safer on the pill!
mortonjag 2008-06-25 18:20:33
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 25 2008, 05:58 PM) [snapback]466312[/snapback]
Anna Ivanovic.

Annie Johnson
mortonjag 2008-06-25 18:23:46
QUOTE(Yoda @ Jun 25 2008, 06:09 PM) [snapback]466316[/snapback]
Or...you could just send in fing.:-)

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SHH-he's in training for something much closer to home!
mortonjag 2008-06-25 18:31:13
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 25 2008, 06:19 PM) [snapback]466325[/snapback]
You can't say that , its just not true I can think of at least 10 who can be found in that scenario . thumbup2.gif


Talking of tongues, the Shooglyphile Sycophant Society has gone awfy quiet awfy quick!

Maybe they're off to the seaside for some donkey rides, or more likely they're concocting death threats in their play pens.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 18:36:09
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Jun 25 2008, 06:25 PM) [snapback]466329[/snapback]
I didn't realise the monkey had a surname.

Anyway, I agree that Paul Dalglish is no better than what we currently have and I wouldn't want to sign him. If we are to bring in another striker, they should give us a different option (and probably better) than what we currently have. Someone in the mould of the wee neddish looking number 9 with the orange boots who played for Livi against us at Scappa last season, though he couldn't finish his dinner that day. Unfortunately there are not too many good strikers around the lower divisions that would be realistic targets.

Also, if they could score 20 goals a season, that would be good too!



He's very proud of his name: Monkey Dalglish-Newall.

He never lets you miss out the hyphen, though his friends call him 'Munx'.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 19:22:16
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Jun 25 2008, 06:38 PM) [snapback]466334[/snapback]
Fans tend to get behind a team when there is a feeling that they are giving 100%. Under JM this year that was simply not the case and the fans turned on the players and management because of it. Now under DI things have changed in a very positive way and the fans are getting behind the team a lot more.

Our 'away' fans were tremendous in the Cup tie at Palmerston, though I'm damned if I remember whom we were playing. They were generally extremely supportive throughout the season.

If the fans REALLY turned on anyone it was more likely to have been Mr Rae-though I'm sure he didn't intend to offend them-more just a case of innocently opening his mouth and letting his belly rumble.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 19:26:52 The Turks should really be out already. I'm supporting the Christians. Is that naughty? blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-25 19:30:29
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jun 25 2008, 06:41 PM) [snapback]466335[/snapback]
WDE - This sounds like it could be a good venture.

I'd certainly try out a Thai place in the town, and I think if you kept overheads low you could certainly make a living at it even if it took you a while to establish a trade.

However... this is the West of Scotland and I think you may struggle unless you catered for the chip eating locals as well

Chinese places here have evolved as such that the food they serve would be almost unrecogniseable to your Chinese citizen. So I guess you may be shooting yourself in the foot somewhat if you didn't try and cater for as many folk as possible.

Best of luck with it all.

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Just open a chippy WDE-you KNOW it makes sense-Piehole told you.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 19:32:48
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 25 2008, 07:15 PM) [snapback]466350[/snapback]
I care nothing for political correctness. If you think that one race is superior to another then I'd care to disagree.

I'd put 100 metres ahead of three legged any day.

Should I be ashamed?
mortonjag 2008-06-25 20:43:11
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 25 2008, 08:39 PM) [snapback]466396[/snapback]
Whit's yir MSN?

I'm not sure what that means darling, but feel free to pm me if you wish! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-25 20:48:33 We already have four strikers-we don't need more and anyway, we're skint.
mortonjag 2008-06-25 21:58:08 Jimbo's qualities have more than been compensated for by new midfield signings.

He now has to be assessed as an effective attack force, and he's currently FAR from the finished article. If we start getting decent balls into the box, we have the guys who can score. In that capacity Jimbo and Kev are poor. I'd happily have seen them both go for a couple of decent wingers.

The boy has potential, but we neither have time nor money on our side, and for Jimbo's sake I hope he gets a move.
mortonjag 2008-06-26 05:49:32
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 24 2008, 06:03 AM) [snapback]465484[/snapback]
Stuart Duncan went to unprecedented and almost inordinate lengths to emphasise the Trust's FINANCIAL role as the second largest shareholder.
for second largest shareholder read largest minority shareholder.

And IF Donald's investment materialises, then read second largest minority shareholder.

However, as long as Sugar Daddy is at the helm, minority shareholders, IMHO, do not make a material difference.

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I have a feeling that said Sugar Daddy has recently lashed himself to the wheel.

QUOTE(Mick @ Jun 24 2008, 11:19 AM) [snapback]465575[/snapback]
No offence intended, but if it turns out that this thread (and many, many more like it) are spurious then there's reasonably only one poster to look at.

Why should the Club respond to every single 'perfectly reasonably and legitimate question' - FFS, with MJ's post count alone, they'd need to employ someone solely dedicated to the task!!

What WAS intended Mick? The thread was NEVER spurious. A very serious question was asked, and Companies House's position has been clarified. The club IMO HAS a responsibility to reply to 'every single perfectly reasonable and legitimate question'. Not to do so would be discourteous, unreasonable and a perpetuation of the status quo.

This thread has momentarily gone silent. That 'only one poster' has achieved what others could/would not do. The lull in unwarranted attacks, personal abuse, and deliberate attempts to 'muffle' the said poster is welcome. The Monkey and Fing have had more quality time with their Daddy, and the mobility scooter's had an overdue service.

Perhaps today the Trust will come out with some comment on what for them, must surely be a shocking discovery- indeed one which their representative and reported co-Director of the elusive Mr Donald has, we are led to believe, been unable to make. I somehow doubt it.

This is only the beginning. The club may very well be able to reassure us that Mr Donald IS a Director. If so, they will hopefully also have the decency to admit gross negligence in respect of his registration, if not of keeping the paying customers informed.


AND, IF Mr Donald is indeed a legitimate director, we go straight back to my questions asked when this thread was started. What is his agenda. Hopefully the club will re-assure us today.

QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jun 24 2008, 08:08 PM) [snapback]465861[/snapback]
Hence the reason the register entry on GMFC isn't up-to-date, or shouldn't I let the facts get in the way of a good story Ernie? dry.gif

Try to improve your style Smiffy-it's puerile, repetitive, and downright dishonest. Could those words also be applied to another big 'Dunce' at Cappielow?

QUOTE(cmdc @ Jun 25 2008, 03:30 PM) [snapback]466232[/snapback]
Who was that addressed to? Gillian?

TBH, a thread on an unofficial messageboard, in the close season, is not really something I would expect the club to respond directly to, if they are even aware of it. The direct question is a different matter, so I hope you get a reply.

It isn't an issue which greatly troubles me, although the Mike Peden fiasco does show that it is a reasonable enough question to ask, and expect some kind of answer to...

Let's get one thing crystal clear. Mr Rae makes sure he's kept up to date. Forgetting Donkey Dave, Mr Rae has several part time spies, to say nothing of his totally transparent 'agents' on this pubic massage board, who for over three years have made a concerted effort to discredit Mortonjag's integrity-an impossible task!

Those pathetic fools know who they are, as does the majority of decent posters. Will they now shut up shop? rolleyes.gif laugh.gif

QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 25 2008, 05:04 PM) [snapback]466283[/snapback]
Why does it matter whether the answer comes from via MJ or the Trust or any other source .

Being aware of our recent history there should be a willingness by the board to be open and honest in all matters .
If we are to get involved in any share purchase then we should be entitled to know the structure of the club with regard to who are directors .

You seem to be suggesting that those at the Trust maybe aware of the situation and are looking for a patsy . I don't believe that insinuation if that was the case they'd be damaging the reputation and integrity with existing and potential new members .
I hope they respond to your remarks which I hope are unwarranted .

Over twelve hours and waiting Chris! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-26 07:00:55
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jun 25 2008, 10:43 PM) [snapback]466513[/snapback]
Are we not planning to send Graham out on loan though?

I wouldn't read too much into things which were said some time ago. I believe Brian's on the verge of a breakthrough-his progress has actually been faster than Jimbo's over the last two seasons.
mortonjag 2008-06-26 07:07:46


QUOTE(angloton @ Jun 25 2008, 10:15 PM) [snapback]466495[/snapback]
I don't want to get anyone worried but I've heard from the physio's dog's pal's best mate that rangers are sniffing around derek mcinnes, and leeds fancy signing derek lilley......

don't worry tho....at the end of january next year.....there'll be only ONE PETER......i think he'll score a cracker at the midden....

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mortonjag 2008-06-26 07:12:43
QUOTE(angloton @ Jun 25 2008, 10:46 PM) [snapback]466518[/snapback]
Bang on...he scored plenty in the 2nd division. Obviously that was just the 2nd division, but he looked a natural finisher every time i watched him play. i reckon he just needs to buck his ideas up a wee bit (plus be played in the right position) and he could quite easily have the same sort of season as Dobbie had at QOS last year.....

One day people will accept that Spoonsy was, is, and always will be a striker!
mortonjag 2008-06-26 07:27:56
QUOTE(big B @ Jun 26 2008, 02:40 AM) [snapback]466594[/snapback]
If Mortonjag was as good a striker as he is with his gob he would be a Scottish International.



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And if your knob had been half as big as your gob there would have been less fumbling. angel.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-26 07:36:11
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 25 2008, 09:24 PM) [snapback]466441[/snapback]
NO debate on that Sir, my point was that those who believe that the Essen Pee are different are massively deluded.



Litotes.
mortonjag 2008-06-26 07:43:35
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Jun 25 2008, 10:29 PM) [snapback]466508[/snapback]
Thanks for that, I thought it would be something along those lines.

I had a great meal by the way, but best Thai I've ever had (I've never been to Thailand so can't compare to the real deal) was in restaurant called Pattara in London, just off Regent Street. Absolutely brilliant. So if the standard of your takeaway is up with that, you will be onto a winner. Not sure those saying that the Greenock public woudl want chips and other such delicacies stand up as your model is based on a successful one for a similar venture in Hartlepool, which isn't exactly the world centre of fine cuisine. Go for it.





Thai Siam
1191 Argyle Street
Glasgow, G3 8TQ
Phone: 0141 229 1191
Website: www.thaisiamglasgow.com

* Average price 2 courses:
£7.90 (set lunch)
£18 (evening meal)
* House wine: £11.95 per bottle

* Hitlisted
* High point: Homely Thai cooking
* Low point: Hearing people's conversations – and everyone hearing yours
* Food served: Mon–Sat noon–2.30pm, 5.30pm–midnight; Sun 5.30pm–midnight
* Delivery: Decided by drivers, depends on distance. Not set by restaurant.
* Open since: 1998
* Also offers: Vegetarian options (at least 25% of main courses), Children's portions, Children's high chairs, Wheelchair access, Takeaway, Pre-theatre menu

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Eating & Drinking Guide 2008

This review appears in the The List's Eating & Drinking Guide 2008
– in the shops now or buy online.

Banquette seating, carefully folded napkins and elevator music suggest that this neighbourhood restaurant is not about to give in to pressures to follow the latest fashions. Instead, there is a quiet confidence derived from the proficiency of its kitchen. Charming waitresses use knowledge of their native cuisine to suggest changes to your order if combinations clash. Ingredients are fresh and the cooking style slightly rustic – each component in a dish plays a supporting role in creating a powerful overall impact. Among salads, a jumble of tiger prawns with cashew nuts and mango appear thrown together, but as the flavours mesh, each item serves its purpose. Tom kha gai soup is revitalising: the coconut milk separates somewhat from the spicy broth to create another layer of concentration, while chopped lemon-grass and chilli provide a rough texture to the soup's silkiness. In the duck and coconut red curry, grapes and pineapples complement the meat and stop the coconut milk from becoming cloying. As often seen in Asian restaurants, a familiar photographic menu displays ice-creams served in fruit shells with adornments. Still, an effort at individuality is made with vanilla ice-cream deep-fried in coconut batter, which is worth trying to satisfy your curiosity.


HIGHLY recommended by The Monkey!
mortonjag 2008-06-26 07:50:56
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Jun 25 2008, 10:46 PM) [snapback]466519[/snapback]
Sure I can, Greg. If there's a disagreement between two or more parties, and if it seems no movement on opinion can/will take place, then I think it's best to say Fugeheddabouddit. It's best to do that instead of going back-and-forth for an unknown amount of time.
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I don't look down my nose at people that drink, per se. I look down at people who drink too much, and let drink control their actions and reactions. I only do this because I was a heavy drinker before, and it almost killed me. To be honest, I don't remember half of my year in Korea because of it, and that was the half year that I wish that I could remember. sad.gif
I realize that, and for that I sincerely apologize to Boozehound and everyone else. I did not, in any way, mean to come across as such. What I wrote was written because I thought it would be taken differently than it was. It was bad jugement on my side. However, the fact still remains (as I see it, anyway)....it happened the way that I wrote it.

This is why I think it's best to put this to rest now.

It's odd Trick-you can make an open and honest statement like that, and nobody even bothers to acknowledge that you've achieved something which, it would appear, our resident 'what are you drinking' brigade would probably find impossible.

There's nothing wrong with responsible drinking and the opposite applies too.
mortonjag 2008-06-26 07:53:51
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 25 2008, 09:19 PM) [snapback]466433[/snapback]
Maybe Deego's a gay necrophiliac. huh.gif

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Deego was in dead earnest.
mortonjag 2008-06-26 08:02:36
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 25 2008, 11:57 PM) [snapback]466576[/snapback]
More than likely it won't. Just like the League of Nations didn't prevent WW2, the UN has failed all along the line since.... instances of war, mass murder, genocide, tyranny have prevailed worldwide, not just in Africa. Mugabe, as bad as he is, is small potatoes compared to the big time gangsters that rule China. Is anyone arguing for regime change there? No chance... they're our new found pals that sell us cheap tv's. laugh.gif

Two blacks, however their relative size, do not make a white Mr. Edwards.

Mugabe is the embodiment of all that's evil.

Yesterday I made a little Plasticine effigy of him-not a very good likeness-no way as good as the one of Shoogly, and Munx and Fing have been gleefully sticking pins in it ever since (gave up on Shoogly long ago), so keep your fingers crossed.
mortonjag 2008-06-26 08:15:17
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 26 2008, 08:07 AM) [snapback]466618[/snapback]
That's a frank admission.

I'll take that with a stiff upper lip.
mortonjag 2008-06-26 08:19:09
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 26 2008, 08:09 AM) [snapback]466620[/snapback]
Be afraid Mr Mugabe, Dr Mentaljag's got his mojo working and he's gonna voodoo you. laugh.gif
I see also that auld Betty has taken away his knighthood. Now that really will upset him.

Are you referring to Her majesty, Queen Elizabeth 11 of Great Britain, and Northern Ireland, Empress of India, defender of the Faith, Protector of the Commonwealth and mother of a vegetable?
mortonjag 2008-06-26 08:25:17
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 26 2008, 07:38 AM) [snapback]466612[/snapback]
Gezundheit!

Kia ora!
mortonjag 2008-06-26 08:27:03
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 26 2008, 08:19 AM) [snapback]466627[/snapback]
Whit ?

Are you practicing to be a Sassenach ?

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SSHHHHHH-I'm supposed to be dead!
mortonjag 2008-06-26 08:29:13
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 26 2008, 08:20 AM) [snapback]466629[/snapback]
There have been eleven Queen Elizabeths ???

I didn't know that.

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'Eleven Queens Elizabeth' Newt! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-26 08:46:33
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 26 2008, 08:31 AM) [snapback]466636[/snapback]
I heard there were flags at half mast at Cappielow and Fort Matilda.

But, I didn't know why.

I do hope we've not lost another of our ex players. 'The club' always goes to great lengths to respect its dead.
mortonjag 2008-06-26 08:56:01
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 26 2008, 08:16 AM) [snapback]466624[/snapback]
Motoring officials in North Carolina are doing their best to clean up the mean streets of America by offering drivers the chance to trade in number plates that bear the potentially offensive letter combination "WTF".

According to the state's Division of Motor Vehicles, almost 10,000 people have been driving around —possibly for years— with WTF licence plates.

But the government department only recently learned the letters were a common acronym for the vulgar phrase "What the f***?", the News & Observer of Raleigh newspaper reports.

The discovery was made by a 60-year-old teacher, whose grandchildren had clued her in to the hidden message in her number plate.

The shocked grandmother complained to the motoring agency, prompting the mass recall.

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But is seems the Division of Motor vehicles has not done as thorough a job in cleaning up its own communications.

The department was shocked to discover this week the same letters appeared on the agency's own website in the form of a sample personalised plate.

"I can't believe it," DMV Commissioner Bill Gore told the newspaper when he heard about the online glitch. "Obviously, I didn't know it was there."




The DVLA is nothing but consistent-you can go on line right now and purchase


A12 FTP


and


A12 FKB


for £250 each.

Funnily enough they don't advertise a price for the pair.
mortonjag 2008-06-26 09:02:09
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jun 26 2008, 08:47 AM) [snapback]466641[/snapback]
Jeeezo, you go to Dublin for the weekend and then a funeral in Edinburgh and the Jag not only forgets you but encourages others to do so! Hurt, I tell thee, I am hurt. rolleyes.gif laugh.gif

As for discrediting the Jag's integrity, surely more a case of shoring up his paranoia... laugh.gif

I hope you didn't make an ass of yourself at the funeral Dave.

Will the club be answering my e-mail today?-It'll help us to move on.

There's a good boy, trot along and check for me!
mortonjag 2008-06-26 09:05:47
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 26 2008, 08:59 AM) [snapback]466646[/snapback]
TP and KB ?

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KB is a rather unpopular beer here.

One needs to be somewhat catholic to drink it.

It's often called kiddies' beer.

Sounds a bit like the much disparaged Kestrel Lager over here. It was advertised as 'having bite'!
mortonjag 2008-06-26 10:14:43
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 26 2008, 09:31 AM) [snapback]466651[/snapback]
Quite - Greacen2000 still deserves plaudits for bringing this to the public eye.

What EXACTLY are you attempting to prove? For all you know, we may have been in this together.

Would it surprise you to find that that is true?

Others who have unsuccessfully attempted to discredit Mortonjag have backed off.

You continue to dig yourself deeper into your self important little hole. I regard that as a contemptible attempt at self aggrandisement.

Sad really. smartass.gif



mortonjag 2008-06-26 10:25:50
QUOTE(upaclose @ Jun 26 2008, 10:21 AM) [snapback]466665[/snapback]
Go and f*** yourself you big inbred cracker fud.

I'll keep my mouth shut when you stop spouting your melodramatic, odious right wing, empty rhetoric.

Deal Fats?

At least you didn't call Trick a pouffe!
mortonjag 2008-06-26 10:41:44
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 26 2008, 10:24 AM) [snapback]466667[/snapback]
I'm not attempting to prove anything. Greacen2000 was good enough to reveal to those who didn't yet know that Alistair Donald is not a director of Morton, and you've also been good enough to acknowledge that by stating that he was the one and only poster who accomplished it. I'm merely agreeing with you that he's worthy of admiration.

A poor attempt at a body swerve. Those 'in the know' see you for exactly what you are.

Greacen highlighted what several others knew after we'd discussed the issue together. Anybody with a little wit could have done the same.

Mick, like yourself, was having a sideways swipe at Mortonjag-claiming that if the thread turned out to be spurious, only one poster would be to blame.

Only one poster went to the trouble of harrying Companies House to CHECK their records. Many others had cast aspersions on their record keeping, but yesterday we got it in black and white from the Manager of the Documents Examination Section.

That was SOLELY down to Mortonjag.

If you have indeed renounced your despicable claims that the Jag is only in this for self aggrandisement, and overcome your palpable 'wee boy' jealousy at exclusion from his burgeoning PM Club, that is reassuring news.

Nothing should get in the way of the truth.
mortonjag 2008-06-26 12:02:57
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 26 2008, 10:47 AM) [snapback]466682[/snapback]
Yeah, clearly I should think about doing that soon.

Anyway, I eagerly await someone revealing the outcome of the share issue - somehow I doubt that it'll be you, but you'll take the credit nonetheless because you're in it for yourself biggrin.gif

Keep them coming son-MJ's PM club is again pissing itself laughing, and he's loving the back handed compliment every time you try and fail to put one over on him. wub.gif

Mortonjag received an e-mail only yesterday morning from a lifelong fan in Canada who expressed amazement at the regular unwarranted attacks on Mortonjag by 'losers'!

Mortonjag was heartened to read that YET ANOTHER HIGHLY QUALIFIED AND VASTLY EXPERIENCED MAN confirms Mortonjag's opinion of our little boy posters. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-26 12:09:10
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 26 2008, 12:04 PM) [snapback]466728[/snapback]
The scare quotes around "director" are yours alone. The club has called him a director and he has called himself a director. Directors have legal obligations to fulfill towards their companies and for this reason (as if basic honesty wasn't enough) then if he's not really a director but rather a "director" then this should have been made clear.

Spot on! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-26 12:11:39
QUOTE(CJTon @ Jun 26 2008, 11:43 AM) [snapback]466716[/snapback]
Not significant. Alister Donald's private wealth has got nothing to do with GMFC. It is up to him whether he wants to invest or not. Only he and maybe the chairman are privy to what his future plans will be. Anyone taking up shares have to make their own judgements as to how strong the financial structure of the club is.

Being registered or not registered as a director will not matter as anyone with a bit of sense would realise that he could walk away anytime. Certainly no indication to date of that happening and for all those that think the club has been very quiet on this matter I would point out that we are in that silly news season. Just look at some of the other clubs websites and you will see how much space is being taken up by pretty irrelevant subjects.

As has been mentioned before AD was invited into the role as a "director" to give business advice to the Chairman at presumably a fairly high level in order to take the club forward. I personally think this has been a good positive move to utilise the expertise of somebody who has been very successful in the commercial world

Conspiracy theories will always surround any football club and if the club had to answer to all of these questions raised then the administrative side of the club would really implode.

Gosh i am looking forward to the chat getting back towards real football matters as the new season approaches.

Given that you can't even spell our putative directors' name properly, I guess the other posters will see that statement for the utter waffle it is.
mortonjag 2008-06-26 12:24:04
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 26 2008, 12:07 PM) [snapback]466730[/snapback]
I'm well aware of that - that is your prime motivation, as I've been saying. Do keep up.

In any case would it not be more appropriate to drive your ego-wagon to another thread and leave this one to substantial debate?

That is merely the mistaken opinion of a relative child, whose own motivation is crystal clear to the Jag.

I believe your solitary degree was in Politics. I believe that politicians are the scum of the earth.
mortonjag 2008-06-26 12:36:07
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Jun 26 2008, 11:56 AM) [snapback]466721[/snapback]
he was invited into the role as a director, has he taken the position?

is he considering?

if its such a simple thing that people are asking as some posters are making out, why is there not a quick clear answer to close this thread.

that is what most of us want.. a closure.



QUOTE(CJTon @ Jun 26 2008, 12:24 PM) [snapback]466753[/snapback]
Sorry to get the spelling wrong.....makes my post waffle then?

Don't mind if you treat it as waffle. I was hoping to bring a bit of clarity with regards to AD's role at the club with my first hand knowledge for those who are less clear.



QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 26 2008, 12:28 PM) [snapback]466759[/snapback]
My degree is indeed in politics... my profession, however, is not tongue.gif

Put it this way: one can be a microbiologist without becoming a malignant bacteria, so long as they keep a microscope's length away from the petri dish biggrin.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Stick to politics son. Bacteria are organisms. There is no such thing as a malignant bacterium. Oh, and 'one' cannot become 'they'!

Sometimes I despair of the ignorance of self professed graduates of proper universities. smartass.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-26 12:44:36
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 26 2008, 12:37 PM) [snapback]466769[/snapback]
-a, -um, it's all Greek to me blush.gif

That's becoming abundantly clear, and it's Latin!
mortonjag 2008-06-26 12:51:51
QUOTE(CJTon @ Jun 26 2008, 12:33 PM) [snapback]466764[/snapback]
Why does it matter? What actual effect does it have on anybody when I believe to date that if not actually registered as a director he is providing a positive input to the club.

Lets just be pleased that we have got somebody associated with the club with the experience he has (his wealth good eventually be a bonus) and not get too hung up about what maybe an administrative slip up.

Why do positives always get turned to negatives on this site!

One of the main reasons why positives often appear to be turned into negatives is the persistent blind support of posters like yourself for an autocratic regime which treats its paying customers like sh*t, and in a reprehensibly recalcitrant manner refuses to answer the most honest and simple of questions.
mortonjag 2008-06-26 12:53:22
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 26 2008, 12:45 PM) [snapback]466776[/snapback]
Cheers for pointing that out - I might have looked daft otherwise! 1eye.gif

Only to the properly educated.
mortonjag 2008-06-26 13:02:48
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 26 2008, 11:16 AM) [snapback]466697[/snapback]
Maori- I'm impressed.

Ciamar a tha thu drink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-26 13:14:23
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 26 2008, 12:54 PM) [snapback]466786[/snapback]
LL, you may find this difficult to believe, but there's a big world outside Greenock where in some places there are actually labour shortages in certain sectors.

You don't seem to have come across any discrimination in your professional life, and I genuinely think that's great. But in that case I think you're one of the lucky ones. I can assure that literally millions of your sisters have encountered discrimination in the workplace - I've seen it myself many, many times.

If you think that's OK and and you're happy that women on average earn 40% less than their male colleagues for doing the same job, and you're happy with the 'glass ceiling' encountered by many women when it comes to promotion, then that's fair enough, it's your choice.

I think that's a shame though.

Is that the one the ambitious dames smile through as they shag their way to the top to the disadvantage of male competition?
mortonjag 2008-06-26 13:26:16
QUOTE(CJTon @ Jun 26 2008, 01:12 PM) [snapback]466800[/snapback]
My support is certainly not blind and is based on what I see and what I know.

Comparing the situation to Brooks Milestone and Gretna is in my view unfair at this time. If AD was eventually to invest money I think you would find all the loose end properly tied up. AD is sufficiently commercially aware to also ensure that this nhappens

Our chairman is actually a very astute businessman....again my point of view based on my past knowledge...and at no time would he allow a Gretna situation to arise. For what is effectively a small provisional club (apart from in the eyes of us Morton fans) the football club has done pretty well to get where it is today and the involvement of AD is to see how that can be taken further.

Is that based on what you see or what you know, or is it just an opinion.

There is ample documented evidence to suggest that Mr Rae's tenure at Cappielow has been littered with examples of lack of astuteness.

The latest is his stubborn refusal to answer the very question on debate. If he has even a modicum of common sense, let alone astuteness, he must see that he is further alienating his paying customers.

OR IS HE HIDING SOMETHING?
mortonjag 2008-06-26 13:31:53
QUOTE(ali2301 @ Jun 26 2008, 01:09 PM) [snapback]466798[/snapback]
Just been watching First Ministers Questions at Holyrood and ironically Wendy Alexander has lost her voice. Pretty bad timing!

She's obviously been doing too much sookin'.
mortonjag 2008-06-26 13:43:28
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jun 26 2008, 01:32 PM) [snapback]466809[/snapback]
ha ha ... laughable.. when it comes to morton f.c it seems to me that the club is being run like a 99p card shop, ans as for AD , exactly what has he brought to the club ? I cant see any evidence of this great buisness minds influence on the club, or does ddfr not listen to him.. or more frighteningly is he ok with the way things are being run !!!

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I suppose it's possible that he's just giving the old duffer plenty of rope, and when the self strangulation is all but complete, he'll offer a knock down price! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-26 13:46:47
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jun 26 2008, 11:58 AM) [snapback]466722[/snapback]
True, but Jim's breakthrough was at a lower level. If we were still in the 2nd Division I think Graham would be ready, but he needs a season of regular first team football in the 2nd or 3rd Division before he's ready to make a serious claim for a first team place.

A season at East Stirling perhaps?

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JM would convince him he's a left footed right back.
mortonjag 2008-06-26 13:48:24
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jun 26 2008, 12:04 PM) [snapback]466727[/snapback]
With Bryn Halliwell and Kevin Cuthbert still without clubs, why are we bothering with Robinson?

Ther nae munny.
mortonjag 2008-06-26 13:51:16
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 26 2008, 12:09 PM) [snapback]466735[/snapback]
What's your problem with young Deego?

He's one of MJ's little men! angel.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-26 14:00:12
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 26 2008, 12:17 PM) [snapback]466747[/snapback]
Ssssshhh this is supposed to be a quiet forum tongue.gif



Peace, perfect peace, in this dark world of sin?
The blood of Jesus whispers peace within.

Peace, perfect peace, by thronging duties pressed?
To do the will of Jesus, this is rest.

Peace, perfect peace, with sorrows surging round?
On Jesus’ bosom naught but calm is found.

Peace, perfect peace, with loved ones far away?
In Jesus’ keeping we are safe, and they.

Peace, perfect peace, our future all unknown?
Jesus we know, and He is on the throne.

Peace, perfect peace, death shadowing us and ours?
Jesus has vanquished death and all its powers.

It is enough: earth’s struggles soon shall cease,
And Jesus call us to Heaven’s perfect peace blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-26 14:07:11
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jun 26 2008, 01:12 PM) [snapback]466799[/snapback]
According to his profile the Naitch is 24 so he'd be able to remember that then. blink.gif

laugh.gif

REALLY-you could have fooled me!

Anyway the comment was directed at Puggsy whose profile claims he's 21, but who behaves like a twelve year old.
mortonjag 2008-06-26 14:16:58
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 26 2008, 12:14 PM) [snapback]466744[/snapback]
Quote from the article: "and the other problem I have, Ostitis Pubis [inflammation of the pubic bone]"

So he has been excercising his arms a lot then laugh.gif

Osteitis PUBIS Weegie-not penis.

The imagination of you young boys! bag.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-26 14:30:30
QUOTE(CJTon @ Jun 26 2008, 01:40 PM) [snapback]466812[/snapback]
A wee bit more than just an opinion.

So how many paying customers do you believe is he going to alienate because form 288(cool.gif - Appointment of a Director has not been signed?

I wouldn't think that many....but I stand to be corrected.

So what do you think he is trying to hide (if again that is your opinion)?

So you agree with the Companies House opinion that Mr Donald is not a designated director of Greenock Morton.

For almost six months the Chairman would have had us believe otherwise. I sent two separate e-mails to the club yesterday asking for clarification of the position-no more-no less. So far I've had no acknowledgement of either.

This no longer is a matter of whether or not a form has been signed, it's about a pertinent question which the club has seen fit to ignore for weeks-which the Trust seems unable to answer-and which potentially goes to the very heart of the current share issue and the future of the club.

As others have said repeatedly, the question won't go away until it's been answered.Only then can we fully assess alienation.
mortonjag 2008-06-26 14:34:51
QUOTE(Mr Toon @ Jun 26 2008, 02:20 PM) [snapback]466838[/snapback]
I don't want to get into the 'personal' stuff about Douglas Rae or Alistair Donald but would like to make a couple of points.

No astute business-man would ever invest in a Scottish football club as a business venture unless it was one of the very few, or make that two, which have a chance of giving him a return on his money.

On the other hand some of the very wealthy, as they are perfectly entitled to do, buy yachts, fast cars or other 'toys' for fun and to show off their wealth, and some buy football clubs. When they grow out of them or get fed up with them, or find that they no longer give them an adrenaline rush they walk away more often than not in the case of football clubs, leaving them in a worse state than when they bought them.

If you need evidence of the above you don't take an interest in football.

Other business-men who have acquired wealth and who are genuine supporters will invest in 'their' club because they want it to survive e.g Douglas Rae with Morton, or because they have the financial muscle to take it to or towards the top e.g. the present chairman of Doncaster Rovers.

What Morton need like 'a hole in the head' is anyone who comes into the 'I need a new toy' category, and what they would obviously benefit from would be a greater level of investment from one, or a number of genuine supporters.

As regards Mr Donald I have read that he is a Rangers supporter, and therefore given what I have written above can only wonder why he would want to invest in Morton.

He is actually quoted as having a passion for Rangers AND Morton.

I don't think he'd necessarily be a bad thing for the Ton, though I agree with your cautious sentiments. Either way, we need to know what's going on.
mortonjag 2008-06-26 14:43:28
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 26 2008, 02:29 PM) [snapback]466844[/snapback]
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PLAY ANOTHER TUNE

THANK GOD MORE PEOPLE ARE SPEAKING OUT AGAINST THIS FLIPPANT TYPE OF LABELLING

A cop out way to get people to back down

Bang on the money LL. shutup.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-26 15:14:26
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 26 2008, 03:01 PM) [snapback]466860[/snapback]
You go find out.

laugh.gif YIP-he asked!


Don't let the children wind you up LL!


It's the pace of change which has often been unacceptable. Where I live there is united hostility from a well integrated multicultural society towards indiscriminate dumping of all sorts of 'waifs and strays' mainly from Eastern Europe.

Possibly those who object to the idea of reclaiming our multicultural country should propound their mealy mouthed quasi PC theories at one of the residents' meetings here. They would be told to GET TO F*CK in no uncertain terms and many discrete dialects.

All mooth and keyboard and in need of pink botty skelping par excellence.
mortonjag 2008-06-26 15:22:16
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 26 2008, 03:18 PM) [snapback]466875[/snapback]
I wonder if it's just me here but I think Harding and Greacen acted appallingly towards the club, both must have known they were carrying these injuries when they were negotiating their new contracts, both got big pay increases when in my opinion they should have both been given a big boot up the arse at the very least.

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Maybe it was something with not being able to get a doctor's appointment for two months. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-26 15:23:29
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 26 2008, 03:13 PM) [snapback]466872[/snapback]
You spoil all the fun with your constant corrections .

You and your Companies House .


barstewards angel.gif angel.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Any reply to YOUR e-mail yet? blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-26 15:29:11
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 26 2008, 03:17 PM) [snapback]466874[/snapback]
Residents' meetings are for curtain-twitching oddballs, but aside from that, would that really be the reply given if I asked, "reclaim from whom?"

Because that doesn't really seem to be a very good way to garner support.

Listen to me sonny boy-this is the big smoke I'm talking about-not the leafy west end of Greenock where brown faces are still associated with sun tan parlours.


Up here we want to reclaim it from the dumpees-if you can't get your head round that concept, come and have a keek for yourself. Alternatively enjoy your sand supper.
mortonjag 2008-06-26 15:38:51
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Jun 26 2008, 03:33 PM) [snapback]466887[/snapback]
Now you are taking big hairy bollox doc, i didnt know that cathcart or newlands was overrun by the roman slovak community? my erse.. its full of rich fat arse docs and asian shop owners in their fancy hooses! and big 4x4s to take the kids to school....

yer not as common as you make oot! rolleyes.gif laugh.gif blush.gif a few smileys jus for effect!

i would love to claim back this country as well! LL.. let me know when your up for doing it and we will set the coup in motion. AK47 anyone?

laugh.gif

Look pal-yer talkin' tae Whiteman in Newlands here!

Take my little flat as the centre of a two mile radius circle and there are no big hairy bollox.

I didn't say they were camping out in our close! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-26 15:40:01
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 26 2008, 03:34 PM) [snapback]466890[/snapback]
OK, so it's the dumpees. Thank you for sorting that out.

I wonder where Loyal Lass lives, incidentally?

She is my gardener.
mortonjag 2008-06-26 15:59:33
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Jun 26 2008, 03:43 PM) [snapback]466901[/snapback]
aye!

well...
fair play on spot the whiteman in some areas, ill give you that...

but theres nae roman slovak "dumpees" or whatever you wanna call em up there. if your at a community meeting and you are complaining aboot Govanhill issues in newlands, you lot have got too much spare time on yer hands.

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"Where I live there is united hostility from a well integrated multicultural society towards indiscriminate dumping of all sorts of 'waifs and strays' mainly from Eastern Europe."

naw, were I LIVE there is.. not in newlands ma dear doc!

although i would still debate the "well integrated multicultural society" bit. dry.gif

That's the whole point-those who don't know what they're talking about DEBATE-others talk facts.

How far is the centre of Newlands from Shawlands cross? When did you last suss the population of the Shawbridge and Birness Drive multi storeys for example. When did you last buy a 'Big Issue' from the gangmaster organised Roma at the 'Co' on Pollokshaws Road? The Poles are a slightly different issue, but we've just got our new 'Little Krakow' deli 50 yards away.

Stereotypes of doctors in their big detached villas with their 4 x 4 shaggin' wagons are indeed stereotypes. Oh and you can play 'spot the white man' in Lidl's or 'Newlands Safeway' any time except Friday afternoon. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-26 16:06:09
QUOTE(king_bob @ Jun 26 2008, 03:55 PM) [snapback]466909[/snapback]
When Irons first came in last season, I'm sure he would have been dismayed at the quality of keeper he had at his disposal as both Robinson and McGurn had been making some poor mistakes, but as time went on and the defence shored up, Robinson's performances, and probably more importantly his confidence, improved dramatically. He played very well in the last 2 games of the season, maybe Irons saw something there to make him think he had something to work with.

I was at the hospitality at the last home game of the season, a question was asked after the match when David Irons, Derek Collins and David Wylie came into the lounge, went along the lines of how do you rate robinson compared to McGurn, Wylie answered this question and said that robinson has to the potential to become a very good keeper and i am impressed in what i see in him.

Maybe it is wylie that has put a word into irons

'Don't you think those boys deserve the CHANCE to take us forward'? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-26 16:35:36
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 26 2008, 04:07 PM) [snapback]466916[/snapback]
That's absolutely shocking, if true.

It's true,it's not shocking, and I am one of the customers.

Your point was? blink.gif

QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 26 2008, 04:07 PM) [snapback]466917[/snapback]
Don't worry, the residents association are already on to it. It's top of the agaenda at the next meeting.

Woe betide them man or woman who stands up and says they acually quite like have a Polish Deli in the neighbourhood. smile.gif

I just said it!

Your point was? blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-26 16:40:10
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 26 2008, 04:37 PM) [snapback]466928[/snapback]
That's jolly decent of you.
You go find out.

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mortonjag 2008-06-26 16:58:51
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jun 26 2008, 04:48 PM) [snapback]466934[/snapback]
There is already positive discrimination in operation, whether subtle or overt. Witness all those statements about welcoming applications from lesbians or gay men (always with the female listed first in true PC fashion), ethnic minorities etc etc. What should in fact happen is that there should be no mention of particular groups and the default position should be the best person for the job gets it. And I'm sorry, but if you want to base it on a cost/benefit analysis, a male up to the age of about 40 will always beat an equivalent female for simple biological reasons. In many case the female IS the best candidate in my experience and in my company we employ or have employed far more than the industry average.

Don't try quoting the voice of experience Alibi-they simply don't want to know. The only comfort I can take is that I'll probably not be around in twenty years time, when that lot have hopefully grown up and are themselves getting to the stage of being irritated by jumped up brats who think they know better. By then they'll also be able to enjoy the fruits of their pachydermatous myopia and arrogant dismissal of those who do.

A good kick up their arses wouldn't go amiss either! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-26 17:06:44
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 26 2008, 04:29 PM) [snapback]466924[/snapback]
we're going to need to find a good striker now because the two keepers we'll have on our books will be gifting the other teams goals, sure both of them would probably have good spells during the season but lets not be fooling ourselves, there will be a run of games during the season where things are not going well for us and confidence will be draining, this is the time where you need a competent goalkeeper to try and win you a point here and a point there, not someone who will probably end up throwing the ball into the net.

We have four strikers darling! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-26 17:14:07
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 26 2008, 05:07 PM) [snapback]466945[/snapback]
Agree , there is talk of MP's getting rid of allowances for their second home replacing it with a large hike in salary . This is to prevent cases where MP's are claiming tax relief on property they own outright .
So fraudulently claim money which would get anyone else investigated and their collar felt however MP's just change the rules that keeps them within the law .

If you can't do it by the laws of the land simply change the law .

Power without responsibility is all around us! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-26 17:19:37
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 26 2008, 05:09 PM) [snapback]466948[/snapback]
I don't know to whom you're referring but not only did I state that I've encountered "disciminatory" hiring practices in the past but also that I didn't have much time for this particular law.

You were probably eyeball deep in a cauldron of bigos at the time so I forgive your missing it if your remarks were directed at me.
True colours - everywhere!

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mortonjag 2008-06-26 17:21:09
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jun 26 2008, 05:09 PM) [snapback]466947[/snapback]
...for one day. Bit of a token punishment frankly but it makes a point. And that point is that the procurator fiscal should have done his job properly and prosecuted her.

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mortonjag 2008-06-26 17:28:11
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 26 2008, 05:16 PM) [snapback]466951[/snapback]
we don't have a 15-20 goals a year striker though. We have three strikers ( i refuse to count Brian Graham as one of our strikers) who combined will probably get us 25-30 goals a season, which means our Midfield and Defence will have to chip in with a lot more goals, something they didn't really do last year.

We DO actually if we could get a decent supply to a fit and motivated Spoonsy-it will NOT, however, come from Super Kev, the blinkered greyhound, or Jimbo the 'what next?' machine man.
mortonjag 2008-06-26 17:30:21
QUOTE(twgp @ Jun 26 2008, 05:25 PM) [snapback]466958[/snapback]
Who would we have to ground share with while scappa was getting done up?

Surely not the new mini-me all seater up in paisley?!

More chance of Golden Casket buying over Nestle.
mortonjag 2008-06-26 17:39:37
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 26 2008, 05:31 PM) [snapback]466966[/snapback]
i don't see how you can sit and slag the two people at our club who work the hardest and then say that we'll get goals from the fat controller up front who has about 3 good games a season. There is more chance of me scoring a hat-trick at the supporters tournament than there is of a fit and motivated Weatherson turning up on opening day of the season.

Telling the truth is not 'slagging' my angel, though many hate me for it!

I think this will be Spoonsy's year. Three months into the season we'll be getting offers Shoogly can't refuse-HE'LL be sold on to Hibs in January for £250,000, and LEAFY will take over as number one striker, alongside Wakey.

Before you throw your hands up in horror, the money will be used to sign an experienced goalie, and do up the bogs at the stand, with any residue donated to Guide Dogs for the Blind.
mortonjag 2008-06-26 17:44:52
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 26 2008, 05:21 PM) [snapback]466955[/snapback]
Ah, nice one - it's good to be exempt from a tongue-lashing ohmy.gif

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mortonjag 2008-06-26 17:47:06
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Jun 26 2008, 05:27 PM) [snapback]466960[/snapback]
Another great performance from Murray today IMO. Had to wait for Hawkeye to confirm his final point was in, which was quite funny, but impressive stuff. Nadal dropped a set in his match, Andy could play him in the quarters if he can get past Tommy Haas.

Chris Eaton is on court shortly, would be great if he could get through too, considering how low his ranking is!

All the more fun when he finally gets humpt! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-26 17:49:22
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 26 2008, 05:27 PM) [snapback]466961[/snapback]
im loving all the fights on here lately, maybe the Gourock Morton Supporters should set up a charity boxing night , that way everyone gets to let out their frustrations and money goes to a good cause! biggrin.gif

I'm busy that night dear.
mortonjag 2008-06-26 17:52:24
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 26 2008, 05:44 PM) [snapback]466974[/snapback]
The "back of a fag packet" calculations which underlined the Essen Pee's manifesto, continue to tumble.
Having realised that a 3p rise in income tax can't fund a replacement for cooncil tax they now realise that more of their policies don't add up.

Dohhhhhhhhhhhh.

Soapy helped?
mortonjag 2008-06-26 18:17:18
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mortonjag 2008-06-26 18:24:57
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Jun 26 2008, 06:09 PM) [snapback]466981[/snapback]
If and when he eventually exits the tournament, I doubt it'll be in straight sets, that is 'humpt' in tennis terms! Won't happen IMO. rolleyes.gif

Rest assured he will, and probably in a massive cream puff, and Mummy will give him big 'there, there sons', and his 'on the make' WAG will secretly be raging that he didn't make more money! laugh.gif

There again, he could go all the way and win-overnight becoming the first ENGLISH champion for long and weary. I wouldn't grudge him an ounce of that.
mortonjag 2008-06-26 18:34:29
QUOTE(Exiled Scot @ Jun 26 2008, 06:18 PM) [snapback]466987[/snapback]
I’m I really the only match sponsor so far? I was sure others said they’d sponsor a match. I’ll also take the last away game of the season against St Johnstone, that’ll be the league decider between them and us. Money on the way Andy.

True-I offered to sponsor the first away match at Dingwall within the £100 I've pledged-maybe Andy didn't clock that.

Still offering to match any of the MJ haters up to another £100! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-26 18:36:50
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 26 2008, 06:29 PM) [snapback]466991[/snapback]
I'd be surprised if the SPL allow another groundsharing scheme unless it is to benefit one of the big guns .
Surely before any upgrading work is started will depend on the success of the share issue .
I don't think we'll be in a position of doing a Hamilton for a few years .

No acknowledgement of either e-mail today Chris-though I got a nice letter from the bloke at Companies House detailing the complaints procedure. blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-26 18:41:45
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 26 2008, 06:33 PM) [snapback]466993[/snapback]
no, you're thinking of mitosis

Don't you go trying to tell me what I think again Alistair. I see you disappeared off the AD thread with the rest of the arseholes.
mortonjag 2008-06-27 05:35:12
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jun 26 2008, 03:42 PM) [snapback]466899[/snapback]
Your signature's proving to be very fitting in this thread. smile.gif

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QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 26 2008, 11:03 PM) [snapback]467116[/snapback]
I'm sick of this! It appears that the club has either made an administrative error or Mr Donald decided not to become a Morton Director. Either way, I don't really care. It does not affect my allegience to the club one iota.

MortonJag has managed to make a nothing issue into a big issue and credit to him in that, given his crusade against Douglas Rae and his family. He appears to have finally nailed something specific where the club has done wrong (apart from the secret issues the majority of us are not allowed to to hear about) . That that particular act or omission is inconsequential in the greater scheme of things does'nt matter much to him, its still a blow against the present administration.

Well done Ernie, you've at least managed a score, even if its only in regard to a minor matter. If the club respond to your e-mail, if it were up to me, I would tell you that such matters were private to GMFC Limited and that your e-mail, if printed could best grace the smallest room in the house. Alternatively, I would do what the club has done and ignore you!

Our vastly skilled small town abacus mechanic whose experience of corporate disasters makes the sinking of the 'Titanic' look like an overturned skiff on the Mill Dam is 'SICK OF THIS'.

Shouldn't he be taking medical advice on the matter? unsure.gif

QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 26 2008, 11:12 PM) [snapback]467134[/snapback]
So you don't think that in light of this club's ownership history over the past decade that someone is being presented as having the responsibilities of a director when legally he appears not to is even a little bit worrying?

It's not quite the smoking gun that Mortonjag no doubt hoped it would be and his talk of the law getting involved is faintly ludicrous but when lines start getting blurred bad things happen.

The club may not legally owe it to anyone to explain what's happening but when there is a resolution I think an explanation wouldn't go amiss (i.e. if they're currently in negotiations with Mr. Donald right now I can see why they'd hold off on blabbing... although they may now think twice before making future announcements.)

The Club is a registered Private Limited Company. It must comply with the terms of the Companies Acts. The club has a responsibility to 'The Public'-NOT just shareholders. The Club must not act in any way which could be construed as 'irregular'. Evidence that it 'may' have done will result in an investigation. Deliberate evasion of a question about the current situation-FROM A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC, may constitute grounds for investigation. That is the up to date information I've had from Companies House.

QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 26 2008, 11:37 PM) [snapback]467177[/snapback]
It does not worry me much given the financial relationship between Morton and Golden Casket Group. We are as financially sound as any club in Scotland outside the old firm.

I agree its a little worrying given the announcement of AD as a director but, if he's not, the club will survive and it won't change my relationship with them. My understanding is that the present share issue is or will shortly be wholly taken up. There might be another in which small shareholders get a chance - I don't know. I do know though that for the immediate future we are financially sound unless Golden Casket should go under.

So am I worried if AD is a director or not? I would prefer probably that he is but if he's not, he's not. GMFC will go on.
Am I worried if GMFC have breached some requirement to lodge papers with the Registrar of Companies? Not in the least! As the Crusaders track - It happens every day!

As for some requirement to keep fans who have absolutely no financial stake in the company whatever blink.gif informed whats going on in the board room? The question is not worth an answer!

Shoogly.............'Nick, good chap, tell that ignorant little Glasgow doctor fellow once and for all that I am answerable to nobody'.


Nick.................'Of courshe Mr Rae.........slever, slever,.........'I mean SHIR'.........I'll short the little shnake out............SHLURRRRRP........Mr Rae, erm....cough, cough........... about that sheat in the Directorsh Boxsh..not that I'd dream of presshurishing your goodshelf..........



Shoogly.............'SUSIE....it's hot-pour this gentleman a barley water-I'm off to Greggsh-damn you man-Greggs, to deal with another big softie'. sleep.gif




QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 26 2008, 11:43 PM) [snapback]467186[/snapback]
to your question, no. (but i profess no inside knowledge)

i confess that i'm taking this subject lightly, but i've no reason to believe that the club is about to fold - although mortonjag has private information which may contradict this.

Your attempted levity has run its course.

QUOTE(CJTon @ Jun 26 2008, 11:51 PM) [snapback]467197[/snapback]
I wouldn't worry about it. You can't compare now with then. Completely different situations. As said in a previous e-mail Mortonjag is trying to make a mountain out of a mole-hill.

Mortonjag why are you so intent on highlighting negative issues about the club?

The people at the club are working to the best of their abilities which you seem to think is not good enough. Yes there are times when issues crop up but that happens in any business. They are dealt with behind closed doors and the business moves on.

You seem to have an awful lot of free time to sit at your computer. Why not offer to help out with the admin dept at Cappielow rather than just find fault all the time.

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QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jun 27 2008, 12:59 AM) [snapback]467304[/snapback]
I'm sorry but I couldn't disagree more. Morton have suffered from shocking, gross mismanagement for the best part of three decades now. I can't think of club in this country that has punched below it's weight to the extent Morton has.
Well he can f*** right off then. OF fans are NOT welcome at Cappielow.


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mortonjag 2008-06-27 06:06:06
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 26 2008, 07:33 PM) [snapback]467021[/snapback]
I have a feeling they held back on letting the club know.

Does their contract oblige them to divulge personal medical details to the employer?
mortonjag 2008-06-27 06:08:09
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 26 2008, 10:45 PM) [snapback]467101[/snapback]
I've booked a hotel in Castle Douglas for a week on Monday and then three nights in Durham. Who else is going and where are you staying? Unfortunately my number three son has no holidays left so I am on my own.! Maybe meet for a pint somewhere local any of the four nights?

How many rooms do the Groupies get?
mortonjag 2008-06-27 06:10:33
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 26 2008, 10:20 PM) [snapback]467082[/snapback]
personally i think the lack of atmosphere has been down to the lack of italians in the crowd. we need to recruit more!

The Monkey liked the Spamyard supporters last night. Lets get Spamyards in too.
mortonjag 2008-06-27 06:15:41
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 27 2008, 01:06 AM) [snapback]467322[/snapback]
Paartalu is about a penis taller than Harding!

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mortonjag 2008-06-27 06:32:27



- What's your greatest hope for this season?

That the football we play is exciting for a change.



- And your biggest fear?

That DI/DC leave in disgust around next February.

- Most important player


Arguably McManus-we've needed a calm experienced head in defence for years.

- Cult hero/terrace favourite

I have a sneaky feeling that by Christmas there will again be 'ONLY ONE PETERR'

- Keep an eye out for (young player)

Brian Graham's been coming through quite quickly.

- Player you'd happily drive to his next club

Probably Stevenson, if only to give the boy a fresh start.

- What one change would you make at your club?
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- Have you got the right manager?

Far too early to know how good he is. Seems competent in the motivation department.
- What advice would you give him?

Keep Rae out of the dressing room, and don't 'take him home with you' at night.

- Which team do you most want to beat this season?

The Midden in the Renny Cup.

- Opposition player you despise.

Don't be ridiculous-it's a bloody game.

- Opposition player you secretly admire

Jim Thomson

- Where will you finish?

Definitely mid table (i.e. not first or last).
mortonjag 2008-06-27 06:46:20 YIP-it looks like it's going to be a 'Hard to beat, and not many goals' season.

After watching the Spaniards last night I realised just how BAD has been the crap I've been watching at Scapa for five seasons.

Maybe it's because I don't use the success of the Club as my society status symbol that I'd sometimes gladly see us play really attractive attacking football, and lose to a better side by an odd goal.

Grinding out results is fine if it achieves promotion, or is ESSENTIAL to stay in the division.

Otherwise it's a pain to watch.
mortonjag 2008-06-27 06:50:10
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jun 27 2008, 06:37 AM) [snapback]467379[/snapback]
Out of all the games we will play in the coming season you want us to win a friendly match most of all? mellow.gif

I would have gone for beating St Mirren in the Scottish Cup Final personally. wink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-06-27 07:56:48
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 26 2008, 06:39 PM) [snapback]466996[/snapback]
Don't understand this antipathy towards Judy Murray. So what if she's "middle class". She's encouraged her son to achieve and not to rely on others. She seems perfectly normal anytime I've seen her interviewed.
Would you rather she was a heroin addict who brought her son up to depend on handouts?
His 'on the make WAG' (although how you can be both wife and girlfriend I have no idea) hardly needs the cash. Maybe she loves him and maybe his mum loves him? Wow, wouldn't that just piss you and your backward, misguided class politics off?

Never expected you to Mr Mc-you clearly don't have my ability to read personalities.

QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jun 26 2008, 07:39 PM) [snapback]467022[/snapback]
I can't stand Murray - mostly going on interviews I've seen on TV.

When he plays I find it hard to back him because I don't like him but because he's Scottish I tend to want him to win but it doesn't bother me if he loses. If he was English (or any other nationality really) I'd want him to lose every match and he'd probably be up there with Steven McGarry as my most disliked sportsman.

'Spoilt brat' are the words you were looking for! blush.gif

QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jun 26 2008, 08:30 PM) [snapback]467040[/snapback]
I'm lapsed in just about every way imaginable!!!! laugh.gif

I also find doctors slagging off people for being middle class a little comedic.

You encounter that often!

What was your most recent example?
mortonjag 2008-06-27 08:10:21
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 26 2008, 10:28 PM) [snapback]467091[/snapback]
But only if she's got big tits.

They can make laws till they're blue in the face Mr Edwards, but a woman with attractive big jugs is always number one seed. Funny old world!

QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 26 2008, 11:38 PM) [snapback]467179[/snapback]
I don't have one I have many. I never validate or answer to swearing as to me when you resort to that you have lost respect I have the attention span of a gnat(thank god) when it comes to politics(at least I don't run away from it though)I am not on here to explain myself to you. Why can't some of you let people post their stuff without these post mortems. I don't know maybe it makes people feel big.

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I've being trying to suss him out for some time LL-you know-trying to hang a proper diagnosis on his obvious problem-and you've just made it so simple for me.

BANG ON THE MONEY AGAIN!

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mortonjag 2008-06-27 08:19:38
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jun 26 2008, 10:12 PM) [snapback]467078[/snapback]
I want Piehutt and am willing to chuck the booze and takeaways to make the required weight. wub.gif

No money. It's not about money.

Good gracious, I had no knowledge that the Prof. is a pugilist. I'll have to watch what I say in future.
mortonjag 2008-06-27 09:12:55
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 27 2008, 09:00 AM) [snapback]467409[/snapback]
As far as I am aware not by law they don't, although being seen as responsible to the public would be good for the clubs overall image.
I know...what image wink.gif

Maybe you should have gone to a proper University! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-27 09:20:16
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 27 2008, 09:04 AM) [snapback]467410[/snapback]
Is upgrading Cappielow rather than the squad not putting the cart before the horse ?

It's obviously about striking some kind of balance.

Had Shoogly kept his cuddly toy manager as he planned we'd be back in Division two. So much for him 'undoubtedly wanting to see the club in the SPL.'

If ever there was a perfect example of 'sook it and see' you have it in the current 'stewardship' at Morton.

I don't believe anyone has ever suggested that Mr Rae's heart is not 'in the right place'.

As I've repeatedly pointed out in the past, the same could have been argued for almost any autocrat.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
mortonjag 2008-06-27 09:25:28
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 27 2008, 08:40 AM) [snapback]467402[/snapback]
I have'nt been exposed much to groupies since I married one! Come to think of it, I have'nt been exposed much to her recently either!

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Does that explain why you come over as a grumpy old c*nt? blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-27 09:39:00
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 27 2008, 09:26 AM) [snapback]467422[/snapback]
Why don't we have an experiment?

Call the police and see what happens.


Or will we file this one away with your intentions to call in your connections with the tabloid press last year? rolleyes.gif

Please yourself son-Loyal Lass clocked you in one.

I've no intention of being drawn into 'discussion' with you on this particular point. If you require clarification I suggest you contact Companies House yourself. I eventually found them extremely gracious and helpful.

That advice also applies to Puggsy, and anyone else contemplating further 'black is white' meddling with fact.

mortonjag 2008-06-27 09:41:41
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 27 2008, 09:30 AM) [snapback]467423[/snapback]
do they not require proper matriculants any longer ?

I'm not sure Newt. I suspect we have dozens of youngish graduates on this pubic massage board who have the instinctive wisdom not to argue with their intellectual superiors! mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-27 09:56:13
QUOTE(aimlesswanderer @ Jun 27 2008, 08:49 AM) [snapback]467406[/snapback]
Anyone who thinks Murray has been truly embraced by the strawberries and cream brigade should have watched his match followed by the Chris Eaton match and seen the difference in the reactions of the crowd throughout.

There are aspects of Murray's personality that I'm not that keen on but having read some of the predictable nonsense on here I want him to do well more than ever.



Nonsense! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-27 10:04:03
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 27 2008, 08:44 AM) [snapback]467405[/snapback]
As far as I can gather;

we = a group including you

them = everyone not in that group.
...but I am probably wrong seeing as the way this thread has went! laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-06-27 10:07:44
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jun 27 2008, 09:25 AM) [snapback]467420[/snapback]
laugh.gif kwolity !



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.....but a quality lie!

Port-ton is older and more mature than my little Deeglet, whom I'd describe as 'downy'.
mortonjag 2008-06-27 10:20:13
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jun 26 2008, 11:00 AM) [snapback]466689[/snapback]
I was wondering how the share issue was progressing and whether or not anyone had taken up their allocation.

Given that there's now no mention of how to procure shares on the official website I imagine that it's all a 'done deal' as it were?

I'd like to welcome all investors old and new to the club nonetheless
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mortonjag 2008-06-27 10:25:29 Deja vu.



McAnespie.
mortonjag 2008-06-27 10:37:59
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Jun 27 2008, 10:32 AM) [snapback]467452[/snapback]
I would say no to this (if it were up to me) because I know of people that can't read small letters because of their eyesight. Thus, they must write in caps.

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mortonjag 2008-06-27 10:42:01
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 27 2008, 10:33 AM) [snapback]467453[/snapback]
I just got this email.

Could someone please translate ?
KELYNIAM GLOBAL
KLYG.OB
Last Trade June 24: 1.75

Kelyniam Global, Inc. management has a tremendous amount of experience in CADCAM technology, especially in the aeronautical industry. The company is currently pursuing additional contracts with aircraft manufacturers in the U.S. and South America. Kelyniam Global, Inc. is currently generating revenue by our rapid prototyping and manufacturing facility in New Britain Connecticut. Historically, we have provided engineering consulting for large scale manufacturers in the aircraft and automotive industries. Kelyniam Global, Inc. also intends to directly own or invest in a diversified group of businesses that we provide consulting work for that generate cash and consistently earn above average returns on capital.

Sent to the Tower by James. The Hydes were the proper protectors of the rights of the two Princesses. The Dutch Ambassador might be regarded as the representative of William, who, as first prince of the blood and consort of the King's eldest daughter, had a deep interest in what was passing. James never thought of summoning any member, male or female, of the family of Hyde; nor was the Dutch Ambassador invited to be present.





At least you got an effin e-mail.
mortonjag 2008-06-27 10:52:03
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 27 2008, 10:48 AM) [snapback]467458[/snapback]
do you feel unloved ?

I could give you one.

No No Newt -you are very attentive as it is, but how come I can get e-mails from you in Oz, much quicker than from Feart Matilda? blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-27 11:00:28 Until recently I could only do this


FUDGY WUDGY CHOKED MY BUDGIE


now I'm a dab hand at


Shoogly SookS SooR PloomS
mortonjag 2008-06-27 11:03:52
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 27 2008, 10:59 AM) [snapback]467464[/snapback]
I have a file of emails from both Cappielow and the Fort.

Including 2 from the bloke who we don't mention any more.

Would you like one ?

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Sorry newt but not right now thanks, I'm having my elevenses.
mortonjag 2008-06-27 11:07:06
QUOTE(binnie @ Jun 27 2008, 10:52 AM) [snapback]467461[/snapback]
brian wakes record was worse and now look at him. with the help of irons and collins arbukle could do the same...

Brian Wake played a couple of very good games for us-just at the right time. One swallow doth not a summer make. Jury's out so far as I can see.
mortonjag 2008-06-27 11:29:52
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Jun 27 2008, 11:04 AM) [snapback]467467[/snapback]
Have a gander at my avatar, thats got peoples knickers in a twist before, which is in agreement with your final paragraph, I think!

That's not discrimination Paddy-it's to do with health and safety.

It's common knowledge that there is a fundamental anatomical difference between the male and female.

I can't remember the details-something to do with decompression, nitrogen bubbles in the v agina, and cramped working environment.

We don't need a couple of big c*nts wrecking our nuclear strike force.
mortonjag 2008-06-27 12:18:28
QUOTE(Bobbyton @ Jun 27 2008, 12:01 PM) [snapback]467496[/snapback]
just thought I'd add post no. 501 to this ridiculous thread!

You ever wandered that this stuff might actually scare Alister Donald away with him thinking he's not even in the door yet but is being hounded down by the "loyal" Morton support.

I sure as hell would think twice if it were me!!!

Nice to know you've joined in the spirit! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-27 12:24:31
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Jun 27 2008, 11:53 AM) [snapback]467493[/snapback]
the theory of it is all shot to hell, but should that be the case and there is no money here at all...
then wouldnt we have to seek money from elsewhere?

where is somewhere else?

edit to add...

im getting rid of my flat soon.. wanna buy a flat in govanhill, i think you'd like it here wink.gif

Another less Whiteman in Govanhill.

Did he jump or was he pushed? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-27 13:15:58
QUOTE(Russell#1 @ Jun 27 2008, 01:07 PM) [snapback]467521[/snapback]
What is it with people saying oh no we dont want him or him... near our club i would think that we should give everyone a chance. Who says he won't play Amazing every week, give the lad a chance let DI do what he wants, he saved us from relegation last year he knows what hes doing in this league let him go and Give Arbuckle a chance!

Agreed-IF we didn't have to limit the size of the squad because there's no money. There are other positions I'd love to see filled long before committing yet another wage to a 'striker'.
mortonjag 2008-06-27 13:29:40 One of my favourite posters is weegie, because he only lives a couple of miles away from me.
mortonjag 2008-06-27 13:53:03
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 27 2008, 01:39 PM) [snapback]467535[/snapback]
Moira Salmond would get it first though.

Now, now-what is it with Tims and aged virgins?
mortonjag 2008-06-27 14:01:11
QUOTE(Dr Zhivago @ Jun 27 2008, 01:52 PM) [snapback]467540[/snapback]
Personally delighted we're going to have a big physical team at last. It might not be pretty, but it rarely is in Scottish football!

Think we'll be a difficult team to play against this season, but we won't be challenging due to not having one reliable striker at the club... and a big question mark over the goalkeeping position.

That's pretty dismissive before the season's even started. If we can't get goals from a fit and motivated Spoonsy, LEAFY, Wake, and Graham, it will more likely be because we opted for muscle in the midfield. I've NO problem with that but there will be no subtlety, no decent through balls, and scarcely a cross to talk about.

We seem to be skint already, and the last thing we should be doing is wasting money on ANOTHER striker.
mortonjag 2008-06-27 14:06:53
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jun 27 2008, 01:59 PM) [snapback]467544[/snapback]
You're a bad man laugh.gif

True-but you must confess it's a marriage of convenience if ever you saw one.

I reckon Bawheid's as bent as a bandy banana, and probably not averse to the odd sheep when he's run out of tartan condoms.
mortonjag 2008-06-27 14:20:17
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 27 2008, 02:14 PM) [snapback]467550[/snapback]
Nothing.

Does this mean i'm a lapsed Tim? ohmy.gif

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It can mean just what you want it to mean, Mr Bam.

That'll be you skiving off for your four month paid summer holiday today I'm led to believe.

See thae effin teachers!
mortonjag 2008-06-27 15:14:32
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 27 2008, 02:41 PM) [snapback]467563[/snapback]
Mirror, Mirror on the wall...........................!!!

I hope you're not calling me a sexually deprived old buffoon!

Good gracious-next it'll be 'POUFFE' and the full weight of Moddery will descend on you like a ton of feathers. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-27 15:16:53
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Jun 27 2008, 03:05 PM) [snapback]467570[/snapback]
That's pretty dismissive before the season's even started....

Agreed.
mortonjag 2008-06-27 15:24:01
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jun 27 2008, 03:16 PM) [snapback]467576[/snapback]
Spain were my tips to win it with Croatia my outsiders.

FourFourTwo also had a great article called '25 Reasons Why Spain Will Win Euro 2008' - after reading that I was convinced they would win it. Wish I backed them - I know they haven't won it yet but Ithink they'll beat Germany on Sunday.

I have been watching most matches and generally been a wee bit disappointed with the tournament from the entertainment point of view.

Nobody can accuse Spain of being boring to watch-they were a pleasure to behold last night, and if they take their game to the Germans like that it should be a cracking final.
mortonjag 2008-06-27 15:26:48
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 27 2008, 03:24 PM) [snapback]467581[/snapback]
Yes man, I can swear everywhere! f*nn**s.



You mean vaginas!

HA I see what you mean-some c*** has seen sense at last, but wait-the singular is v*****! thumbdown.gif eek.gif nerd.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-27 16:11:20
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jun 27 2008, 03:26 PM) [snapback]467582[/snapback]
deego prefers his men brunette laugh.gif

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He lies so convincingly! crying.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-27 16:14:24
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 27 2008, 04:11 PM) [snapback]467603[/snapback]
I expected more from you too, handsome balls. Less than 5 minutes is unacceptable.

You're coming over as a promiscuous little cheat. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-27 16:32:10
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jun 27 2008, 04:29 PM) [snapback]467617[/snapback]
have you ever been in red ?tongue.gif
if so, the bouncers have lowered their standards

Do bouncers still 'bounce' those days?
mortonjag 2008-06-27 16:36:18
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 27 2008, 04:31 PM) [snapback]467619[/snapback]
They were obviously bombarded with the nanny state campaign
for responsible drinking .

I read about a terrible loss the other day in Munich . Yes a beer lorry overturned spilling its cargo of wheat beer crying.gif crying.gif crying.gif I was in mourning all day .

Don't drink and drive


















































You'll spill it!
mortonjag 2008-06-27 16:50:53
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jun 27 2008, 04:34 PM) [snapback]467623[/snapback]
you'll not sell many to morton fans, as it seems quite a lot already have them !

You may have misunderstood Chrissiboi's business acumen. It's probable that in the relatively near future many folk will have to extract their heads from their arses where they've been firmly embedded for several years. The blinkers are to protect their eyes from too much light.

I understand that Chrissiboi is also patenting a new mouthwash guaranteed to remove the last traces of faeces from those affected by chronic brown tongue syndrome.

Finally he's mass producing his new DVD-mainly aimed at the children (though the under twelves may enjoy it too) entitled;


DONALD DUCKS MICKEY MOUSE SHOW
mortonjag 2008-06-27 17:04:06
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jun 27 2008, 04:53 PM) [snapback]467634[/snapback]
As promised I paid my £100 as well - Big Andy got it about ten days ago - there were a lack of matched offers for the other hundred - but between us it looks like we've got about £250-£300 to get this started.

Not bad ! Great idea MJ.

TonInDublin

Thanks TiD

It's £300 I believe, and I stand by my pledge to double any further donations up to a total of £100-from those who accused me of attention seeking. Surely they don't grudge this sad old loser a wee bit of glory if it's in a good cause! mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-27 17:22:44
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 27 2008, 05:12 PM) [snapback]467642[/snapback]
Forget it, tickly nips.

'Jag', you whispered, 'from now on I shall call you 'tickly nips'-no one else shall ever share our secret'.



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mortonjag 2008-06-27 18:08:09
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 27 2008, 05:53 PM) [snapback]467672[/snapback]
You could be right , if the business fails I can still become the commercial manager at the club . rolleyes.gif

You'll have demonstrated the skill you you need to better existing standards.
mortonjag 2008-06-27 18:21:31
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 27 2008, 05:22 PM) [snapback]467650[/snapback]
Would the medical term not be vaginae?

Funnily enough NO-despite the Profession being steeped in Latin, 'vaginas' is the commonly used term, though 'vaginae' is literally correct. The word processor interestingly doesn't want 'vaginae' either!

QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 27 2008, 05:41 PM) [snapback]467661[/snapback]
I don't have a f***ing goat, it's my sheep I'm worried about. Stay away!

Would that be your f*cking sheep?


Pouffe shepherd kept mountain goats
mortonjag 2008-06-27 18:36:50 I have received an e-mail from Crawford Rae. I'm grateful to him for responding quickly to mine.

The important comment reads as follows.

We can confirm that Alistair is a director of the Greenock Morton and that the delay has been down to him being out of the Country as the form requires not only his signature but details of his other directorships.


mortonjag 2008-06-27 19:18:47
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 27 2008, 06:56 PM) [snapback]467708[/snapback]
well there's a better explanation..

as mentioned on another thread, gmfc ltd took a while to do the paperwork for companies house - like end of may. that's why the filings for the two retiring directors are dated in june.

these forms do not require signatures of the outgoing directors. the form for appointing a director does.

so if mr donald has been out of circulation since the beginning of june, he won't have filled in and signed the form yet.

or is that too reasonable?

The club, or rather Crawford has given an assurance that Mr Donald is indeed seen as a Director.

If indeed the failure to register is merely due to slip shod behaviour I'm more than happy to be re-assured.

My original question on this thread remains open to legitimate debate.
mortonjag 2008-06-27 19:34:26
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 27 2008, 06:43 PM) [snapback]467691[/snapback]
laugh.gif i'd be totally up for that! looks well fun.

Don't you recognise the one on the right? sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-27 19:37:40
QUOTE(muttley @ Jun 27 2008, 06:58 PM) [snapback]467711[/snapback]
veiwing your profile yourself also counts towards this, only about 5 people have probably looked at you, the rest has been your self pleasuring yourself!

mad.gif

I never view my own profile so I'm the winner! sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-27 19:40:19
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jun 27 2008, 06:50 PM) [snapback]467700[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Check the state of those paupers.

POPPERS!
mortonjag 2008-06-27 19:54:03
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jun 27 2008, 07:31 PM) [snapback]467734[/snapback]
Oh dear, that's that conspiracy theory blown out of the water then. Anyone for humble pie? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Jun 27 2008, 07:34 PM) [snapback]467741[/snapback]
Did Crawford Rae not say it was due to Mr Donald being out of the country? mellow.gif

That's a stupid question! Unless of course you can't read.

QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 27 2008, 07:36 PM) [snapback]467744[/snapback]
i think this is where we came in. i'm not sure what you mean by debate though. i would have thought that the word was 'speculation'.

Ubiquitous Chap-Club director posted 'absent' at the recent EGM-says little-supposed to be on Board in ADVISORY capacity smile.gif -quoted as 'I won't be investing at this stage'-worth mega bucks-well known Hun-


What's the score folks?


It looks like an open question to me Alistair.

QUOTE(Trumpton @ Jun 27 2008, 07:44 PM) [snapback]467756[/snapback]
MJ raised a perfectly legitimate point about this, and I'm glad that this has now been concluded without any of the more pointed suggestions being proven correct.

Well done MJ.

I'm sure we all feel the same?

Thanks. My intention was always to determine AD's actual remit. It was only when I discovered that he was not listed with Companies House that I began to ponder other possibilities. Crawford Rae has made a welcome statement by way of explanation.

I guess we can all get back to wondering about the actual remit.
mortonjag 2008-06-27 20:02:48
QUOTE(C B @ Jun 27 2008, 06:53 PM) [snapback]467706[/snapback]
I hope you are in a head on collision and only Kevin survives mad.gif

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QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 27 2008, 07:17 PM) [snapback]467725[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(C B @ Jun 27 2008, 06:53 PM) [snapback]467706[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I hope you are in a head on collision and only Kevin survives mad.gif

What a f***ing lovely thing to say.

I think he was in jest-anyway how would you like that guy running headlong at you with that glazed 'where do I go next' look'? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-27 20:25:35
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Jun 27 2008, 07:58 PM) [snapback]467780[/snapback]
Was there ever really a question to answer though?

Isn't he being appointed as a non-executive director to widen the skill-base of the existing board? A common enough situation, i'd have thought.

If he wants to invest some of his alleged millions, at a later stage, so much the better.

No?

It seems that you are asking the same sort of questions as me, but from a different angle. Alistair apparently joined the Board almost six months ago, and may very well have been 'out of the country' ever since.

There is no question about his pedigree with Accenture-he's NOT a Fudgy Wudgy wallah.

Is he planning to buy Shoogly out?

Is he REALLY acting in 'an advisory capacity' from some remote tax haven, so that he can puff up with pride when he checks the scores of a Saturday?

Will he be investing in the current share issue?

Has he given up his allegiance to Rangers in favour of our humble little Club?

Does Shoogly see him as a threat, but a necessary evil?

I was excited when I heard that such a rich man had a 'passion' for our wee club.

I was then slightly disappointed when he said he's only here in an advisory capacity, 'cos everybody knows Shoogly doesn't take advice.

I felt reassured again when DI mentioned him after the Partick game.

Some are scared of this 'Bogey Man'-is he another HS perhaps-a Mileson even?

What size of shoes does he take?

Does he drive a Bentley, or is it chauffeur driven?

Folk DO ask questions! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-27 20:38:30
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Jun 27 2008, 08:30 PM) [snapback]467799[/snapback]
and there's no harm in asking.

It seems to me, though, that the answer to a lot of these is either:

a) none of our business, or
cool.gif we'll never know

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mortonjag 2008-06-27 20:41:26
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 27 2008, 08:37 PM) [snapback]467804[/snapback]
no, we have a right to know

Is that what you REALLY think Alistair?
mortonjag 2008-06-27 20:44:39
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 27 2008, 07:33 PM) [snapback]467738[/snapback]
NewTon how do you find all this stuff? do you just go around looking for the craziest stories on the internet? biggrin.gif

For what it's worth darling, I believe that Newt is one of the least understood posters on this pubic massage board!
mortonjag 2008-06-27 20:48:42
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 27 2008, 07:50 PM) [snapback]467768[/snapback]
Tell me about it.

Our central heating and hot water boiler is fulled by oil. Last autumn it was €0.58 per litre, today it's €0.98 a litre.

And I had to fill the tank this week.... almost 3000 litres and a bawhair short of €3000 (2500 quid) to fill the f***er. And I'll be lucky if that lasts a year.

That's €250 (that's over 200 quid) per month just for heating and hot water.

Ah'm naw happy. sad.gif


unsure.gif
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 27 2008, 08:00 PM) [snapback]467781[/snapback]
Stop yer whingeing, you can afford it. It costs me £50 per week in petrol just to get to my work, but I'm not complaining, (probably because I get paid loads of dosh for doing so.) tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 27 2008, 08:11 PM) [snapback]467794[/snapback]
4 bed, 200m2 - fairly big but not huge.

Problem is that where I live there's no mains gas supply, so I'd have to put an ugly gas tank in the garden (at least the oil tank is buried under the garden).

Just have to start wearing jumpers in the winter I think.

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mortonjag 2008-06-27 20:52:47
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 27 2008, 07:49 PM) [snapback]467764[/snapback]
have you lost a bit of weight? ohmy.gif


Only a little! sad.gif
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jun 27 2008, 08:33 PM) [snapback]467800[/snapback]
I think most of us over here graduated from calling people a homo in primary school to get at them, Trick! smile.gif That's what I'm saying mate wink.gif

While he's being spectacularly nasty to you and your wife, upaclose is at least showing some panache and originality with his patter, I have to say! And haven't you two got history, so I'm staying well out the road!

You expect more from me mate, surely someone who can decimate a pub full of people in 10 seconds like Jason Bourne doesn't need back ups!

Go on yerself Trick! Get him back with some good patter or stop biting!

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mortonjag 2008-06-27 20:57:12
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jun 27 2008, 07:43 PM) [snapback]467754[/snapback]
I've broken the 2000 mark! thumbup2.gif

Then you are entitled to 'Wakey's Walloper'
mortonjag 2008-06-27 21:00:23 I'm not sure whether I should be gracing 'Cowards' Corner'.

I have every faith in the wisdom and even handedness of our Mods.

Some may suggest I'm a liar.

I've often taken worse abuse.

I can live with it.
mortonjag 2008-06-27 21:03:37
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 27 2008, 08:47 PM) [snapback]467810[/snapback]
no, it's what mortonjag said


I wouldn't listen to that decrepit old s*** stirrer if I were you.
mortonjag 2008-06-27 21:28:34
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 27 2008, 09:09 PM) [snapback]467829[/snapback]
wink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-06-27 21:36:21
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 27 2008, 09:05 PM) [snapback]467826[/snapback]
he's harmless, like a doctor with warm hands giving a prostate examination.

You never fail to amaze me with your openess-your prostate felt-well shall we say-EXCITING! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-27 21:39:17
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 27 2008, 09:04 PM) [snapback]467825[/snapback]
liar.


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QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jun 27 2008, 09:09 PM) [snapback]467830[/snapback]
Aww, that's a shame. You'll be missed.

If you promise to let me stroke your hairy chest and whisper sweet 'Shooglys' in your ear, I may reconsider-mon petit macaque. wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-27 21:42:42
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jun 27 2008, 09:26 PM) [snapback]467835[/snapback]
now that was a quality post
trick here's the thing..... upaclose is a funny c***. end of. there's 3000miles of brine between u and most on this message board. yanks have a poor sense of irony to scottish observers. much as i love upacloses patter i think it's time to make things clear.

HE DOESNT KNOW YER MISSUS!!!!

if i posted on your fukn army site i'd seem like a lily livered surrender monkey but if they started slaggin my missus i wouldnt give a feck. chill man! donga etc are good guys so just cheese it a bit eh?

suppose am just bored wi seeing an easy target (no offence but its a cultural thing) biting every time.

truce guys??
btw i've enjoyed talkin to u in the past trick but stop biting!!!!!!!!!!

FAO trick

Forza is a w*nker-me an Fingz on your side.
mortonjag 2008-06-27 21:44:54
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 27 2008, 09:27 PM) [snapback]467838[/snapback]
It's oor oil tae ! mad.gif

lubricate Bawheid's posterior aperture with?
mortonjag 2008-06-27 21:49:10
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 27 2008, 09:45 PM) [snapback]467847[/snapback]
enough about my openess, it was tight until you put your hand in there!

...and to your amazement, your arse fitted it like a glove-I've always thought 'mitten' was more apt, but there's no harm in boasting.
mortonjag 2008-06-27 21:51:56
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Jun 27 2008, 09:41 PM) [snapback]467844[/snapback]
sad.gif oops, i just pissed myself laughing biggrin.gif ...mj led right up the garden path.

Rabies is incurable.


THANK F*CK
mortonjag 2008-06-27 22:02:18
QUOTE(C B @ Jun 27 2008, 09:27 PM) [snapback]467839[/snapback]
I'm sure Super Kev would tell him to swerve anyway sleep.gif

'See that c*nt Finlayson-he's a f*ckin' nightmare mate-he runs straight at ye-ye pit in yer tackle an' the c*nt's bye ye-'JEEZ' yer finkin' were f*ckd-yer heid's doon-ye look up-an the c*nt's comin' at ye AGAIN!
mortonjag 2008-06-27 22:06:57
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Jun 27 2008, 07:14 PM) [snapback]467722[/snapback]
A thread about potential groundsharing and you try to turn it round to your vendetta AGAIN !!

Vendetta-surely not!

Crawford and I have exchanged utterly civilised communications this very evening.
mortonjag 2008-06-27 22:10:18
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jun 27 2008, 10:04 PM) [snapback]467854[/snapback]
Wishing ill health on someone....a new low? rolleyes.gif

You're better than that MJ. happy.gif

REALLY?


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mortonjag 2008-06-27 22:15:15
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 27 2008, 10:09 PM) [snapback]467857[/snapback]
What's your greatest hope for this season?

That we get a really good Cup run

- And your biggest fear?

We don't have a decent goalie

- Most important player

McManus or Weatherson

- Cult hero/terrace favourite

Struggling...but will go for Wake..why not !

- Keep an eye out for (young player)

We don't really have a young player to look out for I'm afraid

- Player you'd happily drive to his next club

McAnespie or Stevenson

- What one change would you make at your club?

Pipe band at half time.
- Have you got the right manager?

Aye, for once I do believe we have

- What advice would you give him?

Sign a decent goalie
- Which team do you most want to beat this season?

Airdrie or Dundee

- Opposition player you despise.

Tosh (QoftS)
- Opposition player you secretly admire

Was going to say McDonald of Dundee, but he is gone
- Where will you finish?

Depends on what goalie we sign...But we won't be relegated

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'Live is life' played for you by the Spurtle Memorial tchoocters
mortonjag 2008-06-27 22:23:47
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 27 2008, 09:56 PM) [snapback]467851[/snapback]
thats not what it's like at all you idiot.

I met port-ton
I sure was smitten
his arse was a fit for my glove


I met port -ton
I fell in love
his arse was a fit for my mitten

I met port-ton
I showed my hand
he smiled

I was pleased
mortonjag 2008-06-27 22:35:12
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Jun 27 2008, 10:27 PM) [snapback]467866[/snapback]
How would anyone on here know that? Why don't you email Crawford Rae like your pal MJ? laugh.gif laugh.gif

Point of correction itchy baws!

Mortonjag has never, nor has ever felt the need, to e-mail Crawford Rae, or his Daddy.

Mortonjag merely asked questions, and Crawford was gracious enough to provide an answer.

In that respect, he behaved as one would expect a gentleman to do.
mortonjag 2008-06-27 22:43:27
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 27 2008, 10:40 PM) [snapback]467879[/snapback]
Ah wish the doc would just tell me straight mellow.gif

If wishes were horses then beggars would ride!
mortonjag 2008-06-27 22:52:00
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 27 2008, 10:37 PM) [snapback]467878[/snapback]
im afraid not, out of those three things i am only one of them, i'll let you decide which one.

POUFFE
mortonjag 2008-06-27 22:54:45
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 27 2008, 10:50 PM) [snapback]467884[/snapback]
i bet we get the internet shut down and Edinton arrested within 5 minutes.
edit to add: im foaming at the gash for this new forum, but i should have probably kept that for when im in there.

I f*kin' know-you're almost smothering me.
mortonjag 2008-06-27 23:16:25
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 27 2008, 10:51 PM) [snapback]467885[/snapback]
By nice to Mortonjag he may be able to help or just put some newspapers down

those stealth ninja 's at the Trust

AHH-the TRUSHHHHHHHHHT.!


Now here's a wee puzzle.

Mortonjag asked a question of the trust-not unreasonable Mortonjag thought-after all we'd mistakenly believed that they were the 'fans representative on the board'!

NO, NO , NO they squealed-we are FINANCIAL people-we only represent Trust members and shareholders!

'Ah'! Mortonjag thought-those are truly decent people-I must appeal to their better nature.

'Trust people-may Mortonjag beseech your help-what indeed is the score with Alistair Donald-the new financial person'?

Go away nasty old man-we only answer to members!

TRUST MEMBER

'Listen guys-ignore that old fud and give me the run down-is AD brand new or brand new?


Erm.......well......we think he's brand new, but we're a wee bit scared to....erm..rock the boat..you know how it is with Mr Rae and his Menstrual Cycle, and the price of sugar, and revisions to the Methodist Bible, and the credit squeeze, and Spain beating Russia and STUFF!

FANNYS




mortonjag 2008-06-27 23:25:52
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Jun 26 2008, 11:20 PM) [snapback]467151[/snapback]
theres a couple o songs that I found on you tube that I can't find on any dodgy download sites and I was wondering if its possible to save the song as an mp3 file from the video feed and if it's possible clear and concise instructions are a must. cheers

I'm not telling you because you're a jobby.
mortonjag 2008-06-27 23:35:42
QUOTE(CJTon @ Jun 27 2008, 11:26 PM) [snapback]467936[/snapback]
Mortonjag

Told you that it was just an administrative issue. AD is a thoroughly decent chap with local roots and an asset to GMFC. He may have a passion for one of the old firm but he has also seen to have passion for the Ton too.

Maybe about time you were a bit more positive about the club now that you have been given the information by Crawford.

Cheers

I realise I may have been a wee bit negative in the past.

Your post has given me everything I needed.

I shall strive more vigorously than ever to obliterate preconceptions, sycophancy, and downright stupidity.

Thank you, and 'goodnight'-the Monkey beckons, and he hasn't has a decent shag for two weeks.
mortonjag 2008-06-28 05:58:07
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 27 2008, 11:42 PM) [snapback]467952[/snapback]
rolleyes.gif

Bryan-there was absolutely no need for that. If ever proof positive was required that the Trust has utterly no clout at Cappielow, this is it. Not only is the Trust a toothless bulldog-it's a cowardly one which runs and hides in a corner yelping defiantly at those who call it in question.

QUOTE(CJTon @ Jun 27 2008, 11:53 PM) [snapback]467962[/snapback]
I am certainly no sycophant and if you are calling me stupid then I take quite an offence to that.

My comments are based on my perception from actually meeting AD.

I have had the chance for over 30 years to see the inner workings of the club (by the way I have no formal connection with the club) and have got to know the people running the club. I know how hard they have worked to get the club to where it is today and I know exactly how bad it was in the times of HS. I have seen first hand the respect GMFC has built in the football community from a ruinous base back in the bad old days.

Our club is not doing too bad at all having survived in the 1st division last season and is hopefully set up now to move forward to the next stage. That is what everybody wants and obviously people will have different visions as to how we will achieve this

Lets get the 'sycophant' and 'stupid' stuff out of the road first-simply READ what I said. If you have a basic comprehension of English, you will realise that my comment was NOT specifically directed at you.

Now to YOUR post. You seem to think I'M stupid. That's a mistake that's been made before, and let me assure you-it's an extremely foolish one. You said-

'Maybe about time you were a bit more positive about the club now that you have been given the information by Crawford.'

I said I'd try even more vigorously to eradicate preconceptions, sycophancy, and downright stupidity-that in my opinion is extremely positive, and would be helpful to any football club which wants to move out of the dark ages.

Your failure to post earlier is yet another example of 'I know but I'm not telling those ignorant fans on 'the Rag'. That is in my opinion utterly negative and helps nobody-least of all the Club you represent.

Let's assume for the moment that you ARE Crawford Rae-you might as well be since you appear to know all there is to know-with your 'first hand information', and 'knowledge of the inner workings of the club'.

Why did you not post at the very beginning of the thread the information you e-mailed to me earlier?

That would have been positive-it would have allayed fears and preconceptions, prevented countless stupid posts, and silenced the sycophants whose tongues must occasionally irritate your nether regions.

Instead, you remained silent, perpetuating the divide and rule culture which is the hallmark of a club you claim has 'built respect in the football community'.

I endorse your desire to see the club move forward-of course it's what we ALL want, but please accept the possibility that it's your own perception of reality which is skewed.

Finally, you must know that I've been the biggest critic of the current regime on this pubic massage board. Forget all the ridiculous sniping at me from fools who flutter round Mortonjag like moths to a candle flame. I DO have a whole dossier of information which indicates that the club IS run in an utterly haphazard and amateurish fashion. I've never been sure that publicising the more 'tasty' material would do any good, though it would certainly whet the appetite of the aforesaid, who do NOT appear to have the club's viability as a primary concern.

If you'd like Mortonjag to help you move the club forward from the INSIDE, you may invite him onto the Board in an advisory capacity. He spends all of his time in this country, has an undying passion for ONE football club, is highly qualified with plenty of business experience, and isn't scared to ask questions. You have his e-mail address.

If you are not Crawford Rae, will you pass this message on please.
mortonjag 2008-06-28 07:21:34
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jun 28 2008, 12:41 AM) [snapback]467999[/snapback]
"Hide behind?"? Don't follow you, Ghosty.

Looks like the mods think there's a need for another forum.

Apologies if you are not hurt, you seemed to be getting angry and upset.

That could be described as a slight divergence from fact.
mortonjag 2008-06-28 10:19:45
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jun 28 2008, 10:07 AM) [snapback]468092[/snapback]
You been neglecting monkey again? rolleyes.gif

Don't be silly-he's been out of the country.
mortonjag 2008-06-28 10:27:07
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 28 2008, 08:40 AM) [snapback]468067[/snapback]
Re point 1, I agree.

The only socially acceptable term to describe walking out with a young lady is 'winching'.

I'd never think of that term when I take the wee dug for a crap.
mortonjag 2008-06-28 10:29:57
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 28 2008, 09:18 AM) [snapback]468072[/snapback]
The right to make one's point via marches should be free to all or free to none.
If the cooncil charge all others like republican flute bands and stop the war coalition then they should charge the hunnites, if the others go free so should the hunnites.
Tear away short arse. huh.gif

Considering that most of the orange scum thickos probably evade cooncil tax they should be made to pay with a whacking surcharge.
mortonjag 2008-06-28 10:35:05
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 28 2008, 09:10 AM) [snapback]468070[/snapback]
Quite.

Movement CHC? Izzat naw another word for a keech? rolleyes.gif

Movement, or more properly 'motions' is a well honed term for keech.

Bawheid's lot have been going through the motions for over a year.

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jun 28 2008, 09:21 AM) [snapback]468074[/snapback]
This is one by-election the Tories will NOT take from Labour laugh.gif

The SNP will run them close, if not win it all together. 13 thousand majority rolleyes.gif I think it's possible given the popularity of Salmond and the SNP at the moment.

I think it's equally possible that he may be left wondering what hit him.
mortonjag 2008-06-28 10:38:42
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 28 2008, 10:32 AM) [snapback]468097[/snapback]
Today's Daily Ranger says we are in competition with Dunfermline for him.

What cost would be involved?
mortonjag 2008-06-28 11:35:03
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jun 28 2008, 10:53 AM) [snapback]468112[/snapback]
Where have I heard that before? unsure.gif

It's one of those terms you hear regularly in business-similar to being told by a secretary that 'Mr Goodwillie is in a meeting', when his hand is actually half way up her kilt.
mortonjag 2008-06-28 12:04:24
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Jun 28 2008, 11:51 AM) [snapback]468128[/snapback]
No way will he displace Paul Gallagher. He'd be daft to sign for them.

He's a professional footballer with an agent. He'll do the deal that suits him best-presumably money will figure in it.
mortonjag 2008-06-28 12:08:36
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Jun 28 2008, 11:52 AM) [snapback]468129[/snapback]
I like the idea of 9 pre-season games.

McInally was half-way through a season and still didn't know his best formation, 9 games is plenty to figure out your best team, formation etc.

I think DI has to be respected in his judgement. It's not his fault that the club is skint, and he clearly sees this as a wise build up to the new season. Of course we could pick up a couple of knocks, but those are friendly games-hopefully we won't get any debilitating injuries.
mortonjag 2008-06-28 12:35:27
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jan 13 2008, 02:24 PM) [snapback]381687[/snapback]
Reading between the lines here, i think this may be a stealth takeover by Alistair Donald, who was one of the parties who made an approach to DDFR a few years ago about investing in the club. There was an article in the Scottish Daily Express about it back then, and Shoogly wasn't amused and was critical of the reporter and the journo came onto the messageboards to defend himself. Alistair Donald is/was from Largs if i can remember correctly.

The criticism of DDFR in recent seasons may have taken its toll on him, and he may have accepted an offer from Mr Donald to either buy the club or even dilute his shareholding. I cant see a man of his calibre being brought on board to be yet another yes man dancing to the tune of the Pied Piper of Fort Matilda, or just to make up the numbers in the boardroom. He is there to make a difference and we can only welcome that.

We seem to know even less now than we did then.
mortonjag 2008-06-28 12:47:21
QUOTE(calton @ Jun 28 2008, 12:23 PM) [snapback]468136[/snapback]
ohmy.gif Hers's a novel idea for the new season.........................................lets trust the judgement of the management team and review our progress at the end of the season.
Wow.......a real lightbulb moment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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If you were alluding to my post-that's certainly not what I said or suggested! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-28 13:00:24 Let battle commence. Whichever pig gets to the trough first-it won't be uglier than the sow who's had a bellyful.
mortonjag 2008-06-28 13:38:49
QUOTE(dazed @ Jun 28 2008, 01:06 PM) [snapback]468151[/snapback]
Let battle commence. Whichever pig gets to the trough first-it won't be uglier than the sow who's had a bellyful.
[/quote

there is no battle MJ only answering the post thats all. no personal greivance at all.

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I was talking about the new Leader of Gordy Pordy's puddings.
mortonjag 2008-06-28 14:37:26
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jun 28 2008, 02:00 PM) [snapback]468173[/snapback]
Trust you to resurrect a five month old thread when using the thread that's currently running on the topic would have sufficed. rolleyes.gif

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That's not fair Naitch. I was still putting the finishing touches to my Mummy's kitchen back in January-I only came in at the end of all the excitement and debate surrounding Mr Donald's appointment. Today I looked back to see what folk had been thinking and saying then, and it makes fascinating reading.

Let's just say that folk were VERY excited at the time-lots of theories were being propounded and almost to a man Mr Donald was seen as 'having a financial agenda'.


If I'm reading the messages from Crawford and the mysterious CJ Ton (who seems to know more about Alistair Donald and Crawford than they know about themselves) correctly, the true picture is this.

Mr Donald joined the Board in January as a non executive director. His sole remit was to advise on the bigger financial picture-not to get involved in the day to day affairs of the Club, and CERTAINLY not with any intention of becoming financially involved AT THAT STAGE.

He has been spotted two or three times since then-notably at the Sportsmans Dinner, and has had ample time to complete the paperwork for Companies House. Clearly that was something which either skipped his attention because he has little REAL interest in being a Director of Morton FC, or for whatever other reason he chose not to sign when the opportunity was available.

It appears that the Club have subsequently been unable to forward the relevant paperwork because he is 'out of the country'.


My take on the big picture is that Donald IS interested in gaining control of the club-why else bother his arse in the first place. It was clearly a bit of a coup for the Club to announce his appointment in January-our situation under JM was pretty dire, and Shoogly needed to deflect attention.

Step in Mr Donald and his ONE AND ONLY communication with the fans via the Tilly. This thread reflects feelings at the time-the Raes it seemed, had 'won a watch'.

Five months on nobody wants to talk about Mr Donald-it's almost like his name has become a swear word in Inverclyde. Nobody quotes him, and certainly NOBODY tells us of all the clever financial things he's constantly doing behind the scenes!

It doesn't add up-has he secretly had a squabble with Shoogly over something-the value of the Club perhaps. It looks to me as though the Club's now been left 'holding the baby' while Mr Donald does exactly as he pleases. Is that the true story?

I'd just like to know-I'm sure others would too. I accept that there are certain things which should remain private, but why print a big splash in the local paper if you don't want the public interest, and then seemingly disappear like snow off a dyke?
mortonjag 2008-06-28 14:46:50
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 28 2008, 02:41 PM) [snapback]468186[/snapback]
He's not your type.

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mortonjag 2008-06-28 14:54:08
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jun 28 2008, 02:14 PM) [snapback]468180[/snapback]
it was directed at caling us fannys including me when all i have been is helpful... if we have no clout or not thats a different question. we welcome the questions about us and what we do, hopefully it will make our egm interesting. if you or anyone thinks you can helpful to us let me know...



Bryan my boy, it certainly wasn't directed at your good self-you are ALWAYS helpful-AND pleasant with it, and seemingly unlike certain others on the Trust Committee you have a sense of humour.

I could have called them much worse. I've always found fan.nies relatively pleasant. blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-28 15:50:02 Well done-good experienced manager whom we let go to bring in a Muppet.
mortonjag 2008-06-28 15:53:01
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jun 28 2008, 03:13 PM) [snapback]468197[/snapback]
OK gang, here goes ....... drum roll, fanfare etc etc etc.

The Jesse Ventura Tobacco Chewing Forum is pretty much good to go - and we hope to launch it tonight.

Point 1 : Here's the deal ...... the following has been lifted verbatum from the forum - these are the only rules - simple and effective ...... please read and take note. This will be pinned in the forum and used as a proxy for what's acceptable.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Ok listen up, if you want to be a goddamn sexual tyrannosaurus like Jesse Ventura then here's what goes and what doesn't:

- Keep it legal
- That's it.

Capice?

Disclaimer: The views expressed within this sub-forum are those of the author and the author only and do not represent the views of Greenock Morton Football Club Ltd, or indeed the management of this forum.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Point 2 : We won't be password protecting the forum. There's obvious limitations to that, especially if people decide to post the password to everybody - the intent of this forum is that it will be for people who are not averse to a bit more "in your face" banter, some swearies and more heated debate/s***e/arguments/pish * (delete as appropriate).

By its nature then it isn't suitable for everyone - so we will control membership through a user group. We already have a list of people who have either expressed an interest or are regular board members who fit the bill of being the right age/mentality etc. But it isn't exhaustive - so anyone who wants to play on the new board give us a shout and we'll work to get you added over the next day or two - obviously depending on the uptake this might take some time - so bear with us as we set it up. Tontastic and Edinton have been brilliant in helping us with this but their lives aren't so empty that they can be at their PC 24*7 attending to membership requests. (well Edinton's life is probably that empty but I was saving that for my first topic on the new board). Seriously, the two lads have gone above and beyond the call of duty so work with us as we get folk added.

Point 3 Some of you will be pre-approved when we go live tonight - basically you'll see and have access to the forum - this doesn't mean you HAVE to use it - if your on the list and DON'T want to be, let us know - we'll take you off. Please though, spare us the rock-throwing. If it doesn't work at least it won't have troubled you ! That's the intent. If anyone tries it, hates it and wants removed the option is there.

Point 4 Me and Cruisehound will be the two people given the huge responsibility (cough, cough) of being the Fun Patrol. We see this forum being the same as many we've had on this board, and other boards, over the years. What it helps avoid is the example we had where Trick and Upaclose were slagging each other and other people were complaining on their behalf ! By the way Trick, yo mama is so fat that ..... ach, I'll save it for later. Myself and the dug have no desire to be intervening in pishy arguments - so if ye cannae take it or don't like it - you don't need to play on it. BUT ....... use a bit of cop on - nae porn links, no kicking the arse out of it - there's things on this board that will still be unacceptable on the new one - but they'll be few and far between, and so obvious there shouldn't be any confusion. However, starting the way I intend to go on, Boozie has been barred for four days - harsh but fair, so GIRUY Raymie. That'll teach ye not be logged on when we go live.

Final Point Most importantly - if you do want to be part of the new board please leave a message on here stating that - myself and the hound will send a list to the two lads and hopefully get us up and running tonight. I'm going out tonight at about eight, so hopefully I can get a list to the lads before then, we'll activate the list we have already and when I get back in at half twelve there'll be s***e patter aplenty.

Thats is all ....... viva The Jesse Ventura Tobacco Chewing Forum, and all who sail in her.

TonInDublin (good cop)

F*ck off ya oirish pouffe.
mortonjag 2008-06-28 15:56:10
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 28 2008, 02:07 PM) [snapback]468176[/snapback]
Was it you?

Giffnock this morning, sky blue skoda Octavia, St Andrew's flags painted on the bumpers and a reg plate of
1 SNP?

Don't think so Mr Bam-I've seen that motor several times and the driver looks quite normal.
mortonjag 2008-06-28 15:59:58
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 28 2008, 02:26 PM) [snapback]468183[/snapback]
Just been out to buy my books for the summer hols. I got....

The Last Fighting Tommy (Harry Patch's autobiography)
Slam - Nick Hornby (a safe if somewhat uninspired choice)
Then We Came To The End - Joshua Ferris

If you've read any of them I'd appreciate your comments.

What are you going to be reading on your hols this year?

Dale Carnegie's 'How to Win Friends and Influence People'.

I never tire of it and it's stood me in good stead.

Highly recommended.
mortonjag 2008-06-28 16:36:38
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 28 2008, 04:03 PM) [snapback]468215[/snapback]
Pheww !! I was getting worried for his safety I had visions of him on some deserted island being chased be cannibals with a large pot with Alistair Donald stew written on it .

So he has been back in the country since January rolleyes.gif

So I'm-I believe-reliably informed-though I wouldn't know him from a Fudgy Wudgy. I've never seen anybody in the Directors Box at Cappielow who looks important! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-28 16:41:30
QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Jun 28 2008, 04:10 PM) [snapback]468220[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Nice try. rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2008-06-28 16:44:28
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jun 28 2008, 04:20 PM) [snapback]468224[/snapback]
Do you want in or not? rolleyes.gif tongue.gif
PS I want in.

You're one too.
mortonjag 2008-06-28 16:52:19
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 28 2008, 02:04 PM) [snapback]468175[/snapback]
I'm happy with the current government, as the Essen Pee have to live with a manifesto that can't be financed because they never bellieved it would have to as they expected to lose the election people are liable to become disenchanted.

The move by the other parties to allow bawheid to form a minority administration was imho correct. The best argument against bawheid's boys is to allow them to govern.



QUOTE(piehutt @ Jun 28 2008, 03:23 PM) [snapback]468202[/snapback]
Eh, don't really see what you are saying there?
You want the SNP to continue in government because they will make a mess of it??

This is the wrecking attitude the socialists have had in the past - We don't want to be the government, just disrupt who ever is in government.

News Flash. SNP are far more able than any of the previous administrations to sit in the Scottish parliament. Sure they haven't done 100% of their manifesto, but with a minority they've done very well. Labour in westminster have a healthy majority and are struggling to get anything done.

In fact your attitude is entirely representative of the current Labour MSP's. Not willing to make any constructive contributions to the parliament. Just wait and live in hope that sooner or later the SNP will do something wrong and the people will deliver them back to their position as the government. pathetic.

Aye, indeed you are young man if you are not prepared to accept the considered opinion of a fellow poster who is vastly brighter and more experienced than yourself.

It's also pathetic that you have your little huff button pressed because you cannot cope with the Jag.

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mortonjag 2008-06-28 16:55:26
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 28 2008, 04:43 PM) [snapback]468233[/snapback]
Appearances can be deceptive jagermeister.

He drives with the seat quite far forward. Claymore C*ck would find that impossible.
mortonjag 2008-06-28 20:20:54
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 28 2008, 06:51 PM) [snapback]468268[/snapback]
but have you seen anyone of self importance rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(Savo @ Jun 28 2008, 07:03 PM) [snapback]468278[/snapback]
I believe Alistair Donald is the man sitting right beside mortonjag's bete noire in THIS picture.

That, funnily enough, is almost exactly how I'd pictured AD! He makes HS look like the classroom dunce. Nobody crosses that guy-I'll guarantee that from one look at his coupon. If he really wants the Ton, he'll get the Club. Mark my words. I reckon Shoogly has met his match AND SOME!!! bag.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-28 20:39:33
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 28 2008, 08:15 PM) [snapback]468352[/snapback]
Póg ma thoin ph34r.gif

MY lips are sealed.
mortonjag 2008-06-28 20:44:02
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jun 28 2008, 05:55 PM) [snapback]468248[/snapback]
I see that the SNP are think about putting Miss 'Pure Dead Brilliant' herself, Elaine C Smith up to stand in predominately labour heartland Glasgow East. If they do the punters will vote her in and it will be another bad night for Labour.

Don't know why people vote for actors, but they do!!

They have no choice.

QUOTE(Youngsa @ Jun 28 2008, 06:14 PM) [snapback]468255[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif Having worked closely with all Scottish administrations since devolution, I can confirm that the SNP are as useless as the previous government and will no doubt be remembered as useless as those yet to come. They have the same ability to not listen to good advice and the same ability to ask 'whats in it for me'

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mortonjag 2008-06-28 20:47:42
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 28 2008, 08:24 PM) [snapback]468365[/snapback]
I will have to give that try. Not read any funny material in ages...apart from Upaclose's dismantling of board members.

I don't really bother with fiction-the truth-as they say-is stranger.

'Brush up your Erse' is my current pleasure. Soon I shall be able to communicate more meaningfully with TiD.
mortonjag 2008-06-28 21:01:05
Rose Garden
Lynn Anderson

I beg your pardon I never promised you a rose garden
Along with the sunshine there's gotta be a little rain sometime
When you take you gotta give so live and let live and let go oh oh oh oh
I beg your pardon I never promised you a rose garden

I could promise you things like big diamond rings
But you don't find roses growin' on stalks of glover
So you better think it over
When it's sweet talking you could make it come true
I would give you the world right now on a silver platter
But what would it matter
So smile for a while and let's be jolly love shouldn't be so melancholy
Come along and share the good times while we can

I beg your pardon I never promised you a rose garden
Along with the sunshine there's gotta be a little rain sometime
I beg your pardon I never promised you a rose garden

I could sing you a tune and promise you the moon
But if that's what it takes to hold you I'd just as soon let you go
But there's one thing I want you to know
You'd better look before you leap still waters run deep
And there won't always be someone there to pull you out
And you know what I'm talking about
So smile for a while and let's be jolly love shouldn't be so melancholy
Come along and share the good times while we can

I beg your pardon I never promised you a rose garden
Along with the sunshine there's gotta be a little rain sometime.....
mortonjag 2008-06-28 21:11:04
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jun 28 2008, 03:13 PM) [snapback]468197[/snapback]
OK gang, here goes ....... drum roll, fanfare etc etc etc.

The Jesse Ventura Tobacco Chewing Forum is pretty much good to go - and we hope to launch it tonight.

Point 1 : Here's the deal ...... the following has been lifted verbatum from the forum - these are the only rules - simple and effective ...... please read and take note. This will be pinned in the forum and used as a proxy for what's acceptable.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Ok listen up, if you want to be a goddamn sexual tyrannosaurus like Jesse Ventura then here's what goes and what doesn't:

- Keep it legal
- That's it.

Capice?

Disclaimer: The views expressed within this sub-forum are those of the author and the author only and do not represent the views of Greenock Morton Football Club Ltd, or indeed the management of this forum.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Point 2 : We won't be password protecting the forum. There's obvious limitations to that, especially if people decide to post the password to everybody - the intent of this forum is that it will be for people who are not averse to a bit more "in your face" banter, some swearies and more heated debate/s***e/arguments/pish * (delete as appropriate).

By its nature then it isn't suitable for everyone - so we will control membership through a user group. We already have a list of people who have either expressed an interest or are regular board members who fit the bill of being the right age/mentality etc. But it isn't exhaustive - so anyone who wants to play on the new board give us a shout and we'll work to get you added over the next day or two - obviously depending on the uptake this might take some time - so bear with us as we set it up. Tontastic and Edinton have been brilliant in helping us with this but their lives aren't so empty that they can be at their PC 24*7 attending to membership requests. (well Edinton's life is probably that empty but I was saving that for my first topic on the new board). Seriously, the two lads have gone above and beyond the call of duty so work with us as we get folk added.

Point 3 Some of you will be pre-approved when we go live tonight - basically you'll see and have access to the forum - this doesn't mean you HAVE to use it - if your on the list and DON'T want to be, let us know - we'll take you off. Please though, spare us the rock-throwing. If it doesn't work at least it won't have troubled you ! That's the intent. If anyone tries it, hates it and wants removed the option is there.

Point 4 Me and Cruisehound will be the two people given the huge responsibility (cough, cough) of being the Fun Patrol. We see this forum being the same as many we've had on this board, and other boards, over the years. What it helps avoid is the example we had where Trick and Upaclose were slagging each other and other people were complaining on their behalf ! By the way Trick, yo mama is so fat that ..... ach, I'll save it for later. Myself and the dug have no desire to be intervening in pishy arguments - so if ye cannae take it or don't like it - you don't need to play on it. BUT ....... use a bit of cop on - nae porn links, no kicking the arse out of it - there's things on this board that will still be unacceptable on the new one - but they'll be few and far between, and so obvious there shouldn't be any confusion. However, starting the way I intend to go on, Boozie has been barred for four days - harsh but fair, so GIRUY Raymie. That'll teach ye not be logged on when we go live.

Final Point Most importantly - if you do want to be part of the new board please leave a message on here stating that - myself and the hound will send a list to the two lads and hopefully get us up and running tonight. I'm going out tonight at about eight, so hopefully I can get a list to the lads before then, we'll activate the list we have already and when I get back in at half twelve there'll be s***e patter aplenty.

Thats is all ....... viva The Jesse Ventura Tobacco Chewing Forum, and all who sail in her.

TonInDublin (good cop)[/size]

MORTONJAG IS BANNED ALREADY


F*CKIN POUFFES THE LOT OF YESE-I WANT IN
mortonjag 2008-06-28 21:22:43
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jun 28 2008, 09:17 PM) [snapback]468424[/snapback]
MortonJag, your poll is not going well. At all sad.gif

EVERYTHING I DO DOES WELL-JUST WAIT TILL I GET YOU ON THIS NEW- FORUM

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mortonjag 2008-06-28 21:27:22
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jun 28 2008, 09:23 PM) [snapback]468438[/snapback]
lol, you are taking this far too serious, PT. Don't let it worry you.

This is like some sort of social experiment!!!

Anyone can start a poll if they want. The mod suggested it'd be a laugh to start one to decide whether to let in or blackball people. I did this. But I imagine the decision lies with the mod, the polls are jst a bit of fun I suppose, though do give an indication of what people feel?

Ps. There's no poll about you PT!. smile.gif

LINK

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mortonjag 2008-06-28 21:52:30
QUOTE(tontastic @ Jun 28 2008, 09:47 PM) [snapback]468472[/snapback]
Finished two cracking books, although both were difficult to get into ... Arthur & George (Julian Barnes) and Engleby (Sebastian Faulks) have got Exit Music (Ian Rankin) lined up and very much looking forward to Matter (Ian M Banks).



QUOTE(tontastic @ Jun 28 2008, 09:48 PM) [snapback]468475[/snapback]
Excellent book. Good ending.

Books are for POUFFES! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-28 21:55:31
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jun 28 2008, 09:25 PM) [snapback]468440[/snapback]
That's a karaoke song of mine, duet with a mate.

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I thought folk would just take the piss out of poor old jag again.

Lovely memories of shagging to that song back in the early seventies! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-28 22:10:21 This is the biggest con since Rae told us they deserved the chance etc.

C'mon guys let common sense prevail-everybody should be welcome-all the sad c*nts who can't hack it will drop off like flies. thumbup2.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-28 22:13:05
QUOTE(mortonboi @ Jun 28 2008, 10:07 PM) [snapback]468484[/snapback]
its either dunfermline or morton and it sayed in the paper mortons his prefered choice

Guess it's the pars then! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-28 22:15:25
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jun 28 2008, 10:09 PM) [snapback]468486[/snapback]
Depends who you are talking about. I would prob buy you a pint if I met you anyway biggrin.gif
GIRUY laugh.gif

My arse is at your pleasure darling.
mortonjag 2008-06-28 22:23:36 JEEZUZ


This is worse than 'What are you listening to'.

If ever there was an example of 'keeping up with the Joneses' this is it-AND have you noticed that nobody EVER comments on the last poster's opinion? dry.gif


GET A F*CKIN' LIFE


It's out there-live-look-integrate-contribute-exhuberate-BOOKS ARE FOR POUFFES AND ESCAPISTS.
mortonjag 2008-06-28 22:39:19
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 28 2008, 10:33 PM) [snapback]468497[/snapback]
I agree. Maybe it's time to grow up and leave this s***e behind.

Indeed Mr Edwards- I'm thinking we should have a sub forum for those 'of that certain age'!

We could opine on important matters like the cost of catheter bags, best buy mobility scooters, discussions about your last shag (if you can remember), and little boy Moderators.

What do you think?
mortonjag 2008-06-28 22:42:19
QUOTE(MasterTon @ Jun 28 2008, 10:32 PM) [snapback]468496[/snapback]
I don't think Newton is interested in shares somehow laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

REALLY!

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mortonjag 2008-06-28 22:50:11
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Jun 28 2008, 10:45 PM) [snapback]468502[/snapback]
Right, I want in. I'm pished and up for a good bit of flake shute chat and general boyish banter, so where's my password ya bunch of c**k munching wankers? I'm mightlily pissed at not gettng my invite straight away, so get it sorted, quick.

SNAP!
mortonjag 2008-06-28 22:59:11
QUOTE(Deego @ Jun 28 2008, 10:52 PM) [snapback]468508[/snapback]
Hey, I'm a pouffe.

The Mods are pouffes, TiD's a pouffe, boozehound's a pouffe-in fact everybody's a pouffe except PrincessTON.

I think I will just give up on incompetent Moddery.


POUFFES
mortonjag 2008-06-28 23:02:12
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 28 2008, 10:59 PM) [snapback]468515[/snapback]
Nearly half a day later and sad boy has not torn my reply to shreds>

He never did in any other thread though. blink.gif

POUFFE
mortonjag 2008-06-28 23:04:16
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 28 2008, 10:57 PM) [snapback]468513[/snapback]
He made the nats' mistake.
The tories under Dave are to the left of the Essen Pee. laugh.gif

POUFFE[center][/center]
mortonjag 2008-06-28 23:06:21
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Jun 28 2008, 10:56 PM) [snapback]468512[/snapback]
These bum boys are a bit slow at getting the password out. Must be too caught up in the sperm and sh1t frenzy of the first night!!!!

POUFFES
mortonjag 2008-06-28 23:09:57
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jun 28 2008, 11:01 PM) [snapback]468517[/snapback]
never heard of this guy, anyone got any links to the show? i haven't heard of any english guy winning our 'fan of the year' competition so far.

POUFFE
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mortonjag 2008-06-28 23:20:38
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 28 2008, 11:08 PM) [snapback]468524[/snapback]
That's hypertrophy blink.gif

Cheeky, cheeky boy-in fact TU ES LE POUFFE PAR EXCELLENCE
mortonjag 2008-06-28 23:23:48
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jun 28 2008, 11:13 PM) [snapback]468529[/snapback]
The Vic and the Cardwell both got taken over, the vic no longer pours its measures and you are allowed to finish your 1st pint in the Cardwell now without being asked to leave.

Fair Friday is next week. wink.gif

POUFFES RULE
mortonjag 2008-06-28 23:27:03
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Jun 28 2008, 11:01 PM) [snapback]468516[/snapback]
And folk complain about the speed the official site gets updated. Bunch of fudge tunnelers


POUFFE
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 28 2008, 11:20 PM) [snapback]468531[/snapback]
Who decides on this list of folk who are entitled to enter the new forum ?


POUFFE
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Jun 28 2008, 11:21 PM) [snapback]468534[/snapback]
You not one of them? Bloody disgrace. Thought you were one of the inner sactum?


POUFFE
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jun 28 2008, 11:22 PM) [snapback]468535[/snapback]
Naa, i'm a loner mate laugh.gif


POUFFE
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Jun 28 2008, 11:23 PM) [snapback]468539[/snapback]
Seems I am too!! biggrin.gif

POUFFE
mortonjag 2008-06-28 23:31:08
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jun 28 2008, 11:27 PM) [snapback]468544[/snapback]
You're already in ya weapon.

TonInDublin

POUFFE POUFFE POUFFE POUFFE POUFFE POUFFE POUFFE POUFFE POUFFE POUFFE POUFFE
mortonjag 2008-06-28 23:35:10
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Jun 28 2008, 11:29 PM) [snapback]468545[/snapback]
[b]POUFFE[/b

RIGHT YA POUFFE-YER BANNED FOR THREE DAYS
mortonjag 2008-06-28 23:38:02
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 28 2008, 11:34 PM) [snapback]468554[/snapback]
One of these days, who knows, democracy might eventually.

Mugabe's a


POUFFE
mortonjag 2008-06-29 09:13:08
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 29 2008, 12:13 AM) [snapback]468579[/snapback]
I have to agree somewhat with your sentiments Newt .

We know we have to upgade Cappielow before contemplating the SPL but I also feel we need to maximise the business potential of the club .

The SPL won't be the Eldorado of financial security some may think it is . If the business is poorly run will an increase in turnover not just overstretch an already pressurised structure .
Would tv money and extra gate money not also go hand in hand with increased wages a larger squad increased policing and stewarding . So the attendances quoted to enable the club to break even would also need to increase .



It's a possibility that the share issue was Alistair Donald's idea-part of his master plan to take control of the club when and if the situation is suitable. For the time being he appears to have 'shot the crow' leaving a skint Shoogly to 'stew in his own juice'

A huffy Shoogly explains much, if not all of the secrecy recently-information about AD has been harder to find than a full Bucky bottle in Feegie.

I see the share issue as a good thing. Crawford can get on with developing the Stadium while an ageing Shoogly huffs and puffs in an ever more difficult struggle to retain the 'Top Dog' status which has been the hallmark of his tenure as Chairman.

Folk ain't daft-the old bugger's relatively skint those days-maybe investments elsewhere haven't been performing as well as he'd hoped, and there's now a CCTV camera in the Golden Casket vaults!

I'm feeling positive about the bigger picture. I'm beginning to see us back where we belong in two or three years. Only God knows what the old Shooglemeister will be doing this time next year. Hopefully God has become a Ton supporter!
mortonjag 2008-06-29 09:48:18
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 29 2008, 09:34 AM) [snapback]468749[/snapback]
Hopefully God has become a Ton supporter!
Gidday mortonjag,

If God exists, surely he/she is too intelligent to be a Ton supporter.

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God sees the little sparrow fall,
It meets His tender view;
If God so loves the little birds,
I know He loves me, too.



He loves me, too, He loves me, too,
I know He loves me, too;
Because He loves the little things,
I know He loves me, too.

He paints the lily of the field,
Perfumes each lily bell;
If He so loves the little flow’rs,
I know He loves me well.


God made the little birds and flow’rs,
And all things large and small;
He’ll not forget his little ones,
I know He loves them all.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 09:55:44
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jun 29 2008, 12:47 AM) [snapback]468605[/snapback]
Hmmm, Lettuce see....

Shockerooney, i actually agree with you here. ohmy.gif laugh.gif

I thought you were going to go off on one of your rants about how parents should bring thier children up to be tolerant and respectful, whilst at the same time calling a 12th July marchers all the orange b*****ds under the sun.

Again.

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Mr Bam is not one for stating the obvious.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 10:01:02
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 28 2008, 11:30 PM) [snapback]468548[/snapback]
I think you're mad.

And I think you're a
POUFFE
mortonjag 2008-06-29 10:04:56
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jun 28 2008, 11:56 PM) [snapback]468573[/snapback]
right, you dont like books. why dont you f*** off out of the thread then and stop ruining things for everyc***.

mad.gif ph34r.gif


Because, my old friend---simply BECAUSE! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-29 10:10:30
QUOTE(LauraMcB @ Jun 29 2008, 01:57 AM) [snapback]468655[/snapback]
If the huns thought he was half-decent, they wouldn't want him going out on loan to us again.
You can say what you like about them wanting him getting regular games, gaining experience, retaining match fitness etc etc etc... they clearly think he's shiite and (much as it pains me to admit it) i think they're right.

Plus the fact he's a ginger headed dwarf.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 11:03:20
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jun 29 2008, 09:24 AM) [snapback]468748[/snapback]
I think you made a major boo boo here. It most definately looks like a private members club. You should have let anyone in who wanted to, not just the chosen few. We are all big enough and ugly enough to know that if we don't like it, don't go. A bit demoralising for us "normal" regular posters watching the "chosen few" posting away. Definately smacks of a clique. If you are not a personal friend of the chosen few, you don't get in.

I see it quite differently. They are absolutely DESPERATE to get the Jag on, but Tontastic and Edinton can't bear to part with my scintillating wit on this forum! smartass.gif thumbup2.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-29 11:34:45
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 28 2008, 11:41 PM) [snapback]468562[/snapback]
You haven't been to Newton Mearns then?




Don't be daft Mr Edwards-everybody knows that the Mearns is full of enlightened people-Mr Bam, for example is regularly lit up.

Barsdenne and Millen Gavvy on the other hand! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-29 11:38:58
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 29 2008, 11:34 AM) [snapback]468775[/snapback]
Earl Grey, spot of milk no sugar. Thanks smile.gif

Lapsang Souchong for me please-not too strong and served with a sliver of cold black pudding.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 12:01:18
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 29 2008, 11:50 AM) [snapback]468783[/snapback]
Just read Wendy's resignation speech in full, and the poor woman is obviously deluded and still in denial.

Nowhere in it does she take any responsibility for the situation, but instead lays the blame on the nationalists, the standards commission and the parliamentary officials for giving her incorrect advice.

All of these arguments are disingenuous to say the least.

While she did get incorrect advice from official about the need to declare donations to her leadership campaign fund, she only sought this advice in the first place after the 30 day limit for declaration had passed. So the fact the advice she subsequently received was incorrect is totally irrelevant. That defence would only have been valid if the advice had been sought within the 30 day limit and the rules were inadvertently broken as a result of following it.

Then she blames the Nationalists for pursuing the issue and referring it to the standards commission. Well, that's very a very strange defence given that they themselves created the rules that she broke in the first place. And she completely ignored the fact that when the whole story first broke in the Sunday Herald 6 months ago they must have got the information contained within it from a mole within the Labour Party itself who obviously held a grudge against Wendy.

If she had put up her hand and admitted she c***ed up and that she had been subsequently stabbed in the back by one or more in her own party, she could have left with a least a shred of dignity intact. But to reject any notion of wrongdoing and blame every man and their dug for the situation just confirmed what had been becoming increasingly obvious - she's a political lightweight and quite simply not up to the job.

From a purely partisan point of view I'm disappointed to see her go - FMQs were one of the comedy highlights of the week - but for the good of Scottish politics and the credibility of the parliament itself it's best that she's gone.

Sometimes-just sometimes mind-you betray a touch of generosity. nerd.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-29 12:34:41
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 29 2008, 06:23 AM) [snapback]468732[/snapback]
Aye that's true, but nevertheless you have to hold him at least partly accountable ie if conceding 4 goals against Arbroath doesn't tell you to sign defenders then WTF does? blink.gif
I'm by no means saying he was the main problem, but he was part of a shambles, and is responsible for part of this.
Rae gave McCormack the curteousy of another crack at the whip (which could well be argued he deserved, although I would have got rid after the rout at Hamilton): even then he still didn't manage to sort the glaring deficiencies in the side.
I'm not excusing the playing staff whatsoever here, but surely a strong character would have sorted Williams, Maisano etc into valuable team players instead of mercenaries?
End of the day, i doubt we'll ever know to what extent the balem ought to really lie, and to what extent the allegations of the time were incorrect or valid.
Forgive me though for holding Cowboy at least partly accountable for a miserable calendar year as a Morton fan.
2004: anus horribilis indeed. sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif



Cowboy had us miles ahead of the pack that season-the slump was due to factors outwith his control. Furthermore he had us playing exciting football-something we've never seen since on a regular basis.

I have to laugh at your 'courtesy of another crack at the whip' comment.

JM's performance in the playoffs was proof positive that he hadn't a clue. He should have gone then. If he'd been half as good a manager as he was at conning Shoogly (no small feat) he wouldn't be at Firs Park now.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 12:40:19
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jun 29 2008, 12:15 PM) [snapback]468794[/snapback]
He's 5'11" and strawberry blond I'll have you know. wink.giftongue.gif

You obviously don't know a strawberry from a kumquat-a little fruity orange thing which rolls about all over the place and collapses under the slightest pressure.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 12:46:59
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jun 29 2008, 12:08 PM) [snapback]468790[/snapback]
I don't think she'd necessarilly be the most able politician in the land, but she'd certainly capture the media attention. I think it's fair to say that the SNP members at Westminster aint the most charismatic, able as they are, so probably this would balance things out.

Also a woman is a necessity as they are currently a female free group.

Not for all of us darling, but keep up the pretence.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 12:50:17
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 29 2008, 11:59 AM) [snapback]468786[/snapback]
Toast?

Deux croissants au beurre s'il vous plait.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 12:52:22
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jun 28 2008, 08:46 PM) [snapback]468399[/snapback]
How can someone write an autobiography of someone else? unsure.gif

The nearest was 'Oor Willy' by Siamese twins.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 13:12:50
QUOTE(Youngsa @ Jun 29 2008, 01:09 PM) [snapback]468819[/snapback]
They put McGregor out on loan twice and he's proved to be really s***e rolleyes.gif

Indeed-there's no real logic in the argument about OF loans.

Lee has potential. We need a stable experienced goalie.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 13:16:29
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 29 2008, 12:59 PM) [snapback]468816[/snapback]
I can hear your left ventricle flap as I curl the butter MJ rolleyes.gif

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....et quatre pour mon ami M. Rae.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 13:21:49 I've just realised that the book I've read and re-read most in my whole life is the Holy Bible (King James version).

I'd recommend it to everybody. Although much of it seems complete nonsense, it's the interpretation which matters.

The 23rd Psalm is a beautiful piece of prose.


The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want.

He maketh me to lie down in green pastures:
he leadeth me beside the still waters.

He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the
paths of righteousness for his name's sake.

Yea, though I walk through the valley of the
shadow of death; I will fear no evil: for thou
art with me; thy rod and thy staff they
comfort me.

Thou preparest a table before me in the
presence of mine enemies: thou anointest
my head with oil; my cup runneth over.

Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all
the days of my life; and I will dwell in the
house of the Lord for ever.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 13:27:56
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 29 2008, 01:16 PM) [snapback]468824[/snapback]
You see that can't entirely be the case - what manager would take the flak for a team clearly on the dodgy side defensive wise?
Even considering the Williams/Maisano influence, he was still supported financially by Rae and certainly must have had the resources to shore up the leaky backline in January.
If the cause was administration or similar I'd agree he'd be blameless, but that wasn't the case at all.
I think a certain someone is whitewashing the sitaution here and it sure to hell isn't me... sleep.gif

That's the flaw in your argument.

I'm whitewashing nothing-we'd have been promoted if others hadn't made a fool of themselves. I'm not saying Cowboy was Mourinho-he only was when compared to JM.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 13:44:21
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jun 28 2008, 09:10 PM) [snapback]468416[/snapback]
She has indeed.

They come a very close third to her tits and fanny.

Always aspiring to those great heights Honey-I love your spunk.

QUOTE(forza ton @ Jun 29 2008, 01:42 AM) [snapback]468643[/snapback]
get him to f*** mad.gif his patter is absolutely dire and i'd like to see him spit the dummy out on the main board cos he's not allowed in biggrin.gif

Too late my friend-common sense has not prevailed.

QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jun 29 2008, 03:23 AM) [snapback]468701[/snapback]
Fair play. Maybe should be let in but let him in the very LAST out of everyone who asked on the other thread smile.gif

It will be so amusing seeing him whine, and not being the centre of attention. It will crush him!

Mirror, mirror on the wall! laugh.gif

QUOTE(Edinton @ Jun 29 2008, 01:38 PM) [snapback]468832[/snapback]
he's in...

...and it cost a f*ckin' fortune ya creep.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 13:47:43 Port -ton is the only person I've ever known who can suck my knob while reading Shoogly's programme notes.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 13:51:03 Banning my little Deeglet would be a greater sin than all those committed by the Chief Jobby -Tontastic! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-29 14:01:04
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 29 2008, 01:32 PM) [snapback]468829[/snapback]
vous êtes monsieur terrible! plus de thé ?rolleyes.gif

Oui Madame, mais sans sucre, s'il vous plait, et plus des croissants pour mon ami.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 14:04:39
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 29 2008, 01:32 PM) [snapback]468830[/snapback]
He did use the S word DE. Mibbies not about me though. rolleyes.gif
God I'd rather be an old school socialist than Nu Lab though. mad.gif
Elaine C would give the wrong publicity, She makes Cathy Jamieson seem intelligent, makes Roseanna Cunningham sound pensive and makes Auntie Annabel look like Sarkozy's missus.
I think she knows that too.

She COULD give Bawheid's string vest an overdue wash.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 14:06:31
QUOTE(rex manning @ Jun 29 2008, 01:48 PM) [snapback]468838[/snapback]
Sounds kinda gay.

You just have to take it whichever way gives you most pleasure.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 14:11:14
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jun 29 2008, 01:49 PM) [snapback]468839[/snapback]
That's like comparing a mule to an ass.

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To which comparison were you referring?
mortonjag 2008-06-29 14:24:34

Bust 'G-strings' are common. In my experience the victims have always been inexperienced young boys.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 14:40:48 Blood is extremely nutritious. If God hadn't meant us to enjoy nature's wondrous provisions, women would not bleed. I can totally understand the calf licks' objections to the pill.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 14:43:43
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jun 29 2008, 02:41 PM) [snapback]468876[/snapback]
Seriously, it's jst the age factor here, MJ. I don't think it'd be beneficial. What would be the difference to general forum,if we can't be as risque?

Midtons arguments on Deego having been there, done it, how can he be shocked etc is nonsense - he's equating Deego as representing every under 18 year old, lol!!!

I DO agree with that. I'd limit it to the over forties and keep out the weans.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 14:50:02 Dear Aunt Agony,


My wife has threatened to leave me since she discovered me shagging the hamster. Do you think she needs treatment?
mortonjag 2008-06-29 14:56:09
QUOTE(enigmaton @ Jun 29 2008, 02:53 PM) [snapback]468884[/snapback]
Your wife or the hamster?

Hammy is a boy.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 15:39:41
QUOTE(TBI1978 @ Jun 29 2008, 02:57 PM) [snapback]468886[/snapback]
Hi MortonJag,

I think she will not need treatment if you sellotape her up first so she doesn't burst.

Yours in Agony,

TBI.

She's not very stuck on the idea, but she's agreed to let me pack her fud with Branston Original. I've been using the chunky stuff 'cos it was on offer in Kwik Save.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 15:50:37
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jun 29 2008, 03:41 PM) [snapback]468907[/snapback]
You still have a Kwik Save?? unsure.gif

Indeed-they are now few and far between-we also have an Aldi and Lidl.

Lidl's own sweet pickle had a nice smell which she liked but it tended to trickle down her legs at the ballet class.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 16:40:24
QUOTE(enigmaton @ Jun 29 2008, 04:10 PM) [snapback]468919[/snapback]
The wife or the..........................

Please tell me the hamster rolleyes.gif

Have you ever seen a hamster in a tutu?
mortonjag 2008-06-29 16:47:19 I'd have kept Midge ahead of Kev any day-he was just another who never knew if he was coming or going with JM-AND was treated badly when he made his feelings known. Given our beefed up midfield he could have done a great job for us playing wide right.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 16:53:48
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Jun 29 2008, 02:28 PM) [snapback]468865[/snapback]
how you all have time to read books after trawling through mortonjokes 21000 posts is beyond me, currently propping up the lavvy paper in my bog is
aidrian mole and the weapons of mass destruction - sue townsend
the timewasters letters - robin cooper
friday at the nobody inn - mark hayhurst
an old nuts mag, a 4 day old daily star and a flyer for a coffee morning.

You'd be better off reading the lavvy paper.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 16:57:50
QUOTE(enigmaton @ Jun 29 2008, 04:54 PM) [snapback]468942[/snapback]
Just hope you don't have have a banjo string snapping incident!
Blood, Branston Pickle, Tuto and hamster!!!
Doesn't bare thinking about blink.gif



No chance of that-when I was sixteen my mate circumcised me with a broken screwtap.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 16:59:31
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jun 29 2008, 04:40 PM) [snapback]468931[/snapback]
I voted to let him in.

smile.gif

You've been forgetting the pills.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 17:05:03
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jun 29 2008, 03:10 AM) [snapback]468687[/snapback]
as far as I know, Scott Gillan isn't a friend of anyone on here, Midtons?

anyway, I like reading about the life of an international jetsetting playboy who opens five nightclubs a week and does drugs with Pete Tong and Paul Oakenfold while booking Madonna and Beyonce Knowles for his pub.

NO to Deego, IMO. He is under 18, he's outta there.

Think you better let PrincessTon in before her head starts revolving and she pokes herself with a crucifix while projectile vomiting - she's a tad upset she's not on "The List".

smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-29 17:18:27


QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jun 29 2008, 03:26 AM) [snapback]468704[/snapback]
If you let them in it'll basically be just like the rest of the board?

Part of the problem with MortonJag is he seems to have some influence over these youngsters, who in turn encourage him even further.

And by the way, if Jag is allowed in, can we at least ban Douglas Rae rants from this bit?!?! I am coming round to the fact that in a non-Morton environment, MJ could be good fun.

Mortonjag is endowed with a rare capacity to relate to all ages and both sexes. Some might describe him as a bi-sexual paedophile but that would demean his penchant for humping grilled jellyfish.

QUOTE(Edinton @ Jun 29 2008, 01:42 PM) [snapback]468833[/snapback]
i'm not against having any dirty links, and keeping it over 18s only. maybes keep it to links only? and if you're posting pictures then nae f*nn**s. or c***s. no c***s please.

mortonjag 2008-06-29 17:43:53
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Jun 29 2008, 03:07 PM) [snapback]468893[/snapback]
De nouveau, vous êtes incorrigable rolleyes.gif

C'est vraie! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-29 17:46:39
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 29 2008, 03:53 PM) [snapback]468913[/snapback]
laugh.gif
Not me, though I'll bet that new forum you've joined is full of them.

True Mr Edwards-just a shower of weans getting their rocks off talking about sex and being somewhat rude in the process.

I'm thoroughly enjoying it.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 17:51:26
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jun 29 2008, 03:00 PM) [snapback]468887[/snapback]
Like I said, she may not be the most able politician. but the people you mention are leaders / deputy leaders etc. Just in terms of an ordinary MP I think she'd match up pretty well with most MP's in Westminster.

Although, perhaps looks like a non-starter.

Indeed Piehole-they are all class C actors.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 17:53:52
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jun 29 2008, 04:13 PM) [snapback]468921[/snapback]
Piehutt wouldn't recognise a socialist even if one waving a red flag and wearing a Che Guevara bunnet came up and f*cked him up the arse.

Very true-though he might smile.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 18:39:02 Let's start with men and their penises. In all my years I've yet to come across a guy who didn't seem a bit shy when I asked him to pull out his tadger. I've never ever made that request unless it was entirely relevant.

Women seemed much more relaxed about breast examinations, and other stuff.

What is it with men and their knobs? huh.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-29 18:51:44
QUOTE(enigmaton @ Jun 29 2008, 06:46 PM) [snapback]468989[/snapback]
Think its more about the man they are showing it to rolleyes.gif

I'm a bloody doctor! blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-29 18:55:22
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jun 29 2008, 06:25 PM) [snapback]468971[/snapback]
laugh.gif

I though it was Professor Dong up the fud with a large cast iron crucifix
mortonjag 2008-06-29 19:00:53 So what's all the fuss about porn-all I could see was a young couple making love. She looked a little on the plump side and her fanny needed a proper wash by the look of it, but that was about it.

Well that and the fascinating way his bum cheeks moved from side to side in rhythm with the pumping-I must confess I rather felt like jumping on.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 19:17:10
QUOTE(enigmaton @ Jun 29 2008, 06:56 PM) [snapback]469003[/snapback]
A bloody doctor!
That sounds quite sinister rolleyes.gif
Also a hamster/jellyfish humping branston pickleite!
I'd be scared huh.gif

My patients knew nothing about my hobbies-well all except the one who walked in on me without knocking.

She's dead.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 19:20:32
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 29 2008, 07:05 PM) [snapback]469019[/snapback]
Quality, Branston flavoured flange. Mmmm....

...no better accompaniment for cheese. It's known as a ploughman's hump.
mortonjag 2008-06-29 19:25:14
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 29 2008, 07:03 PM) [snapback]469015[/snapback]
Hey man, I've got five kids to feed.

Ignore the whining brats-just shag them and be done with it.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 06:40:44
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 29 2008, 06:40 PM) [snapback]468981[/snapback]
Precisely , but this guy isin't going to be passing on pearls of business wisdom without it being of some advantage to AD .
Being a Director of GMFC in an advisory capacity is hardly going to raise his profile in the city .

So hence the general inquiry to his intentions .

Exactly-which brings us full circle to the original question about Alistair Donald.

Crawford Rae states unequivocally that he' a 'Director'. He claims Mr Donald is 'out of the country' but omitted to mention when he'll be back.

I'm inclined to believe that Crawford accepts this situation as reality, but how does the mysterious Mr Donald see it.


More importantly, what's Shoogly's take on the matter? I've never known the old sugar boiler to be so silent. No complaints about the 'negativity boys' or 'bullying into signing players', and no 'Are you up for it's-is something going on.

Who knows-he may secretly be suspecting some sinister plot to oust him from his position as 'Lord and Saviour'. Maybe the old Shooglemeister has finally found his match.

Or could it just be that he's frightened AD off for ever and Crawford can't believe reality when it's staring him in the face?
mortonjag 2008-06-30 07:18:09
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jun 30 2008, 03:50 AM) [snapback]469231[/snapback]
add me please...

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ARE WE UP FOR IT?



You don't have much shame Dave eh? I doubt we'll be discussing Shoogly's lack of pennies with the Jesse boys. It's all about fuds, pouffes, and generally disgusting material.
Come to think of it........... shutup.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-30 07:33:36
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 30 2008, 07:07 AM) [snapback]469239[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

In business, as in life, if something sounds too good to be true, it usually is.

Alistair Donald - Cappielow's equivalent of the Nigerian lottery scams ??

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I am not doubting Crawford's reply - I just cannot see Donald wanting to be a MINORITY shareholder.

Unless it is going to give him the right of first refusal down the track.

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Crawford looks a bit like Piggy in the middle. If Donald wants Morton, he'll get the Club unless Shoogly outlives him-that would surprise me none-I reckon the old duffer's good for another eighty years.

IF, however, Donald wants the club NOW, it's as certain as night follows day that Mr Rae will have set the price at an insultingly high level. He has a habit of seeing the Club as much more valuable and successful that it is, except when he's begging with folk to pay money they don't owe him. wink.gif


My personal take is that AD has simply backed off. He didn't achieve his success by pandering to deluded old small time businessmen.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 07:54:04
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 30 2008, 07:09 AM) [snapback]469240[/snapback]
Perhaps God supports all clubs in the Scottish Football League.

And I heard this afternoon that God is not a German.

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You appear to have heard correctly. The Monkey and Fing are over the moon. They'll be straight down to Mr Hill's wee shop in their Sombreros in a couple of hours!



OLE
mortonjag 2008-06-30 08:00:48
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 30 2008, 12:31 AM) [snapback]469195[/snapback]
only 29,153 views

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I thought it was good for 30,000.

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Who would know Newt-we've had some rather odd contributions in addition to the usual petty infighting.

I'm fascinated by the mysterious CJ Ton.

He is the guy who came on telling Mortonjag 'he knew all along it was just a paperwork issue' He also appears to know more about the Raes and Alistair Donald than they could POSSIBLY know about themselves, despite 'having no formal connection with the club'.


I have this feeling that he may be one of Mystic Meg's SONS. He clearly thinks he has crystal balls.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 08:06:51
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 30 2008, 08:01 AM) [snapback]469252[/snapback]
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Does Mr Hill sell plane tickets to Mexico ?

I hope you are not attempting to mock my children's perceptions of SPANE-FFS-they think Australians all wear bush hats and shag crocodiles.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 08:21:11
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 30 2008, 08:06 AM) [snapback]469254[/snapback]
This is the guy who came on telling Mortonjag 'he knew all along it was just a paperwork issue' He also appears to know more about the Raes and Alistair Donald than they could POSSIBLY know about themselves, despite 'having no formal connection with the club'.
Come on mortonjag, even I know he is.

He and I have emailed each other from time to time.

Lives in the west end, happily married with 4 or 5 children.

He is for an independent Scotland and as you say he has no formal connection with the club.

Can you not read between the lines ?

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Well I don't, and I object to anonymous cognoscenti coming on at the very end of a lengthy thread to berate me about negativity AFTER Crawford Rae e-mailed me.

Anyway, if you read your 'friend's previous posts-there ain't too many-you'll find that he's just another who appears to be right up Shoogly's arse-one of those who was full of praise for giving the boys 'the chance to take us forward'.

If indeed you are in e-mail contact I'm sure he'll let you know everything you need about Alistair Donald, including his Mobile details, 32 PIN numbers, and an up to date audit of his pubic hairs.


mortonjag 2008-06-30 08:32:37
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 30 2008, 08:27 AM) [snapback]469260[/snapback]
Anyway, if you read your 'friend's previous posts-there ain't too many-you'll find that he's just another who appears to be right up Shoogly's arse-one of those who was full of praise for giving the boys 'the chance to take us forward'.

QED

I would have to pull out the old notebook PC and try to find him.

He seemed to be a top fellow in his emails.



Lots of lovely folk make silly assumptions when they're too close to the trees to see the wood.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 08:36:38
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 30 2008, 08:17 AM) [snapback]469258[/snapback]
sombra ... shade or shadow ??

Regularing shagging crocs will guarantee you a Darwin award.

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Would you describe Mr Rae as sombre?
mortonjag 2008-06-30 08:43:45
QUOTE(Capuan @ Jun 30 2008, 12:08 AM) [snapback]469176[/snapback]
mortonjag is an anagram of major tong
discuss...



Indeed -it is also an anagram of


JOG MATRON



which takes me back to my early days in Glasgow Royal..but that story's for another day.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 08:49:16
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 30 2008, 08:06 AM) [snapback]469253[/snapback]
oi you, keep it for the other forum!

Shut it you, or I tell them about that wart on your clitoris.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 09:16:15
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jun 29 2008, 07:47 PM) [snapback]469059[/snapback]
Awright, ye got me, I googled for a photae o'the booger.Took the first wan.
Here it is:
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mortonjag 2008-06-30 09:21:42
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 29 2008, 11:53 PM) [snapback]469168[/snapback]
Dear Dr Jag,

How come corn doesn't turn to s*** and instead seems to reform and lumpy up an otherwise enjoyable stool?

Thanks.

I suggest you speak to a dietician.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 09:37:25 I was fifty five before I realised the Missionary Position is the name for the time honoured man shags woman act. Not that I was ever really interested in Missionaries.

Port-tons arse fits my hand like a glove. He has a petulant little prostate, from which, like a good red, emanates flavours of raspberry and elderflower. Uncorked and left to diffuse for an hour or so before humping, Port-ton's arse is a breath of fresh air. Highly recommended.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 10:35:29
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 30 2008, 09:18 AM) [snapback]469271[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

I didnae see many trees there in 2006.

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You must have been concentrating on the wood, Newt-that's the correct perspective.

CJ Ton obviously believes he knows enough about the current situation to entitle him to tell Mortonjag to be POSITIVE.

Surely he must be in on the open secret that AD will buy over the Ton as soon as Shoogly lets him.


OR is he just another sad sycophantic Shooglyphile.

If he KNEW that AD was 'out of the country' and KNEW that was why the forms hadn't been signed despite him having been spotted 'in the country' SEVERAL times since the announcement of his directorship, why didn't he just say so?

Maybe he doesn't really KNOW as much as he claims.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 10:42:20 EVEN THE DOGS IN THE STREET know the real reason for Bendy's resignation.

Who says so?

BAWHEID.

Well, take one look at auld Moira and everything is explained.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 10:46:33
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jun 30 2008, 10:39 AM) [snapback]469301[/snapback]
Maybe he doesn't really KNOW as much as he claims.
Gidday mortonjag,

he knows enough to write a book.

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So did The Apostle Paul, and I know enough to write books till I shake off this mortal coil.

Was it a Fairy story?
mortonjag 2008-06-30 10:56:10
QUOTE(upaclose @ Jun 29 2008, 10:07 PM) [snapback]469115[/snapback]
He has a lifestyle to aspire to. But he's not a gaylord!. Ask his dad. It's wrong to question the sexuality of those in the entertainment industry.

Considah dat a divorce.

Which one?
mortonjag 2008-06-30 11:03:55
QUOTE(enigmaton @ Jun 29 2008, 07:41 PM) [snapback]469054[/snapback]
I can imagine the scene...............

MRS JAG: "My husband what are you doing?"

MORTONJAG:"I'm just pleasuring myself by anally ramming Hammy who appears to have died with the shock of the impact!"

MRS JAG: "That's a real pickle you've got yourself into!"

More of a Hamsterjam, and thinking of the Dutch reminded me of that mouse that lived in the windmill. I've never f*cked a mouse. Well never when I've been sober.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 11:18:40
QUOTE(dazed @ Jun 30 2008, 11:06 AM) [snapback]469313[/snapback]
How dare you insult the great ones missus, likening her to some hound! wink.gif

WOOD EYE!

Naw I'm convinced Auld Moira's a virgin-hence my comment!
mortonjag 2008-06-30 11:22:15
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jun 30 2008, 11:10 AM) [snapback]469315[/snapback]
There's another port ton username on here (port_ton I think) which is why people think you're a girl. By the way.

port-ton is MY girl-he is beautiful in every way.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 11:27:09
QUOTE(rex manning @ Jun 29 2008, 07:08 PM) [snapback]469025[/snapback]
He was our best player last year, he probably won't get a game for St. Johnstone.

I admire his ambition but i think it's lose lose to be honest.

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mortonjag 2008-06-30 13:12:51
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 29 2008, 11:13 PM) [snapback]469149[/snapback]
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I was told the lads are loving it .
DI / DC must be happy with the players fitness as he gave them the weekend to recover . I think the better fitness levels throughout the squad will benefit the players when they come to getting games under their belts .

From what I hear DI has plans to get Quarriers into a more apt training centre than the previous guy who was always lauded for his training techniques.



Notwithstanding our poor results over the last 10 weeks or so, Jim McInally has been good for our Club. I have watched his training methods, and his support for the sports sciences which I found impressive; for example, the team train with heart monitors on from which the management can monitor the players performances while ensuring that no player over exerts himself.

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mortonjag 2008-06-30 13:15:26
QUOTE(rex manning @ Jun 30 2008, 11:37 AM) [snapback]469327[/snapback]
erm, whit?

Unconscious humour?

Sarcasm?

Irony?

Sad fact?

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mortonjag 2008-06-30 13:34:01
QUOTE(enigmaton @ Jun 30 2008, 11:31 AM) [snapback]469325[/snapback]
Two lips from Hamsterjam?

Mouse's ear?





When it's spring again, I'll bring again
Two lips from Hamsterjam
For a quickie screw I'll give to you
Two lips from Hamsterjam
I can't wait until the day you fill
This eager erse of mine
Like the windmill keeps on turning
That's how my bum keeps on yearning
For the day I know you can
Bring these two lips from Hamsterjam


mortonjag 2008-06-30 13:51:02 Funnily enough, after Boozie's question about corn spoiling the taste of his own jobbies ( I was going to suggest he tried soft instead of hard pore corn), I was just about to start a thread about the nicest flavour of faeces.

I think I can say without fear of contradiction that cows keech takes a hell of a beating, though rabbits' droppings go nicely with a Waldorf salad.

Eating keech straight from the bum (as in Fungi's wee fotie), not only provides nutrition at its very freshest, but saves energy in re-heating.

Human faeces do not come highly recommended, though one man's keech may well become another's saucisson.

Whatever else-always read the label.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 13:58:21
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 29 2008, 11:15 PM) [snapback]469150[/snapback]
Aye Thursday would be interesting to see who were up at the top in terms of fitness or more interesting who was at the bottom .

Is training at Quarriers still a closed shop or can anybody watch now that they're not scared the pool table will be hi-jacked?
mortonjag 2008-06-30 14:02:39
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jun 29 2008, 07:27 PM) [snapback]469044[/snapback]
if only you had the same outlook when it comes to your bed.

My bed, as you very well know, is only one attraction in my boudoir. You were quite impressed by my rowing machine-n'est ce pas? thumbup2.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-30 14:09:19
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jun 29 2008, 03:15 AM) [snapback]468689[/snapback]
I would have said you were as bent as Port Ton's knob when it's jammed up MortonJag's crack, before I got together with TBI.
She introduced me to the wonders of red wine and I have to say I love it now. As said, Rioja is a fave of ours.

Yum.

I just hope she lets it warm to room temperature before gently and rhythmically pumping her erse with the bottle.


That's what port-ton and I do to each other for openers-after that it's no holds barred.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 14:16:41
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 30 2008, 01:59 PM) [snapback]469378[/snapback]
I wasn't talking about the taste of my jobbies ya maddie, I was referring to the fact that the corn chunks made the movement a little uncomfortable.

Watch it c*** or ah'll f***in' report you.

QUOTE(upaclose @ Jun 30 2008, 02:04 PM) [snapback]469381[/snapback]
And if anything a little corn added would make them more palatable. If it was a choice between pureed s***e and a chunky jobby garnished with corn I know which one I'd go for.



I really love that wee video-when the jobby comes oot her erse and they put it in the glass it looks EXACTLY the same as my favourite ice cream from that nice shop in St Andrews-in fact I'll be going up again soon-NOT that I'm suggesting jobby tastes anything like ice cream, but I guess you all know that. Ice cream is merely a confection.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 14:21:34 Jesse Ventura for this pish.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 14:27:41
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 30 2008, 02:23 PM) [snapback]469387[/snapback]
...what will he do about it? blush.gif

Just so that I can call you a POUFFE without you clyping.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 14:35:27
QUOTE(rex manning @ Jun 30 2008, 01:40 PM) [snapback]469366[/snapback]
whit?

Yer comment aboot Midge.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 14:41:57
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jun 30 2008, 02:29 PM) [snapback]469389[/snapback]
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FFS-we've now got a million 'smileys' and you pick the pouffest of the lot.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 14:43:45
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Jun 30 2008, 02:40 PM) [snapback]469395[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDCould you not at least post a picture of a nice leather one ya ****.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 14:49:05
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Jun 30 2008, 02:42 PM) [snapback]469400[/snapback]
get the sweary thing off...
P. Oof

16 - 6 for keeping him out! ! !
woaah lets keep him out and get him wound right up.

Am I permitted to suggest that perhaps sometimes he behaves more maturely than Scotty's Daddy-I've a funny feeling I'll be banned for even mentioning the G****** but there we go.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 15:06:31
QUOTE(upaclose @ Jun 30 2008, 03:01 PM) [snapback]469416[/snapback]
I'll have you know I'm relatively slim for my age you small sacked c***.

So what are you? A self loather or general moaner?

I have a MONSTROUS knob for mine.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 15:12:25
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Jun 30 2008, 02:50 PM) [snapback]469406[/snapback]
What are the rules with people leaving things in pubs, ie jackets, bags etc? Are the owners at liberty to throw such things in the bin? Do they become the owners of such articles if left behind by a patron? Do they have any sort obligation to hold onto them for a reasonable period of time to allow people to pick them up?

My problem is slightly different.
Played a gig last week, for some reason we left behind a box of cd's that we sell at our gigs at the venue. In the confusion of who took what from the van its gone until now to figure out that the box is missing and was left behind. The gig was only last tuesday, so still under a week ago.
Called the venue earlier today to be told the box of cd's has been chucked in the bin by the cleaners. If you play in a band you'll know how valuable they are to us. There was prob potentially about £300 of cd's (assuming we sold them all).

Do we have a leg to stand on?

PS - considered petrol bombing the place, but it's in london, and you get shot 7 times in the back for less down there...


It seems to me that it's a case of whether of not the cleaners' behaviour would be seen to reasonable if you chose to pursue them in a small claims court.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 15:15:58
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Jun 30 2008, 03:10 PM) [snapback]469423[/snapback]
i picked one i thought you would like sad.gif

it was the poufiest one i could see, i thought u n port-ton could snuggle together on it

Are you calling us dwarf pouffes?
mortonjag 2008-06-30 15:21:19 I can't believe there are so many self opinionated arseholes!

Deego makes a decent contribution to the match day programme for starters-I think he's sometimes very witty, and when it comes to tickling Mortonjag's tummy, he's twice as good as port-ton.

LET THE BOY IN.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 15:34:53
QUOTE(twgp @ Jun 30 2008, 03:26 PM) [snapback]469441[/snapback]
Now we can find out how many pervs™ are on the board by merely checking the "viewed" column on this topic
you dirty b*****ds laugh.gif

Well let's get the 'perv' bit out of the road first-I'm the biggest paedo, poofter, mother f*ckin', sheep shaggin' perv on the board.

Now HERE'S why I viewed. I was just hoping it would be amusing.


It' NOT. ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-30 15:35:29
QUOTE(twgp @ Jun 30 2008, 03:26 PM) [snapback]469441[/snapback]
Now we can find out how many pervs™ are on the board by merely checking the "viewed" column on this topic
you dirty b*****ds laugh.gif

Well let's get the 'perv' bit out of the road first-I'm the biggest paedo, poofter, mother f*ckin', sheep shaggin' perv on the board.

Now HERE'S why I viewed. I was just hoping it would be amusing.


It' NOT. ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-06-30 15:39:23
QUOTE(twgp @ Jun 30 2008, 03:21 PM) [snapback]469438[/snapback]
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Somebody your age.

I'm just oot the jail.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 15:54:17
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Jun 30 2008, 03:35 PM) [snapback]469451[/snapback]
doctors orders?

or your own sick fantasy!

Both-he told me he was eighteen anyway!
mortonjag 2008-06-30 15:57:04
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Jun 30 2008, 03:37 PM) [snapback]469452[/snapback]
Now you have all had your first posts and had a chance to spout some filth, can we now start behaving like adults and cut out some of the needless swearwords?

EFFIN POUFFE
mortonjag 2008-06-30 15:59:11
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Jun 30 2008, 03:50 PM) [snapback]469458[/snapback]
You think your a **** mate? I drink Rose as my wine of choice, not sure where that puts me on the heterosexuality scale!



All wine is for POUFFES
mortonjag 2008-06-30 16:03:09
QUOTE(twgp @ Jun 30 2008, 03:18 PM) [snapback]469433[/snapback]
Golfer ^

Par 5 if a ever saw one.

Your opinion will be more valid when you're old enough to get a hard on.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 16:16:35
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jun 30 2008, 04:10 PM) [snapback]469469[/snapback]
For future reference the correct term is additional needs. rolleyes.gif Alternatively you could have just called them spastiks ph34r.gif




Would that be the same as the proper term?



mortonjag 2008-06-30 16:20:01
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jun 30 2008, 04:12 PM) [snapback]469470[/snapback]
No f***ing way, swearing is f***ing cool and you f***ing know it.

I'm gonna overlook this post, but anymore of it and you're heading for a ban.

Why is the singular of vaginas a sweary word.

Seems two f*nnies are better than one, but one fanny is better than two.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 16:24:19
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Jun 30 2008, 04:01 PM) [snapback]469463[/snapback]
Surely wine on a pouffe would leave a big stain?
Unless it was scotchguarded for easy wiping. (The good doctor has a computer chair like that)!

Mine is. My little Cairn Terrier's kennel is just outside my cellar.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 16:41:27 I've been called many a thing on the forums-none of which has really offended, but bugger me-nobody has ever discovered my true preference! angel.gif

I guess it started with my ex-wife. 'Needs must' they say, and I got to quite enjoy shagging a block of ice every six months, though I used those thick condoms favoured by pouffes just for a wee bit of insulation.

It's like any other addiction-you have a wee 'try' never thinking for a minute you'll get hooked, and before you know it, the Mortuary Attendants are upping the price every time. Soon I may well be forced to find my material in a different way-it's kinda scary I know, but aren't we all entitled to have our bare necessities met?

I'm going to come in for some criticism from folk who think they know better, but I can truthfully say I've never heard a word of complaint from any of my sexual partners.

I imagine there must be at least half a dozen necrophiliacs on the Board. Will they be brave enough to out themselves?

I assure you I'm in dead earnest.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 17:58:56
QUOTE(upaclose @ Jun 30 2008, 04:31 PM) [snapback]469479[/snapback]
OOOOOoooooh.

C'mon though WDE, if a bunch of men can't bond over their mutual appreciation of watching women on the internet eat their own s***e then all hope is truly lost.

Especially in those days of organic food-nothing beats a big chunk of braised knob spread thckly with fresh jobby.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 18:01:25
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Jun 30 2008, 04:33 PM) [snapback]469481[/snapback]
You have a computer in your cellar? is that where the bodies are?

Only seven of them.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 18:04:18
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jun 30 2008, 05:14 PM) [snapback]469501[/snapback]
Are you a grave throbber ph34r.gif

Oh NEVER Chris-that's disgusting-I can't stand worms.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 18:12:19
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jun 30 2008, 06:01 PM) [snapback]469515[/snapback]
Hearing stories like this makes me thank the lord that i am jewish!

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You could equally well be a moo slim.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 18:16:51
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Jun 30 2008, 04:31 PM) [snapback]469480[/snapback]
I'm still trying to see the mileage in this one.

AD's status (taking Crawgford Rae's response at face value) has been clarified.

The appointment of a non-executive director is a common ocurrance in many areas of business. I surmise that he has been appointed to bring a different perspective to the board.

It may be in his mind that he would like to have a controlling interest in the future, or it may not. Frankly, we don't know, and I can't think why he would tell us.

The only remaining question I can see is this: are you flogging a dead horse here?

Quite possibly. I'll certainly feel more sure of things when AD is back 'in the country' and signs the forms he's had ample opportunity to sign before.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 19:07:29
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jun 30 2008, 07:04 PM) [snapback]469531[/snapback]
i trust you're not questioning the right of posters to indulge in idle and uninformed speculation? biggrin.gif

Busy informed speculation Alistair-get YOUR facts right!
mortonjag 2008-06-30 19:12:55
QUOTE(rex manning @ Jun 30 2008, 02:53 PM) [snapback]469412[/snapback]
ha, sorry Doc I still don't follow.

Are you saying OOPS "Rex just contradicted himself with that sentence"

or OOPS i agree, we let our best player leave, that was stupid.

My comment about Midge is without sarcasm, irony or wit... he was our best player, i dont think he'll play week in week out at St. Johnstone, I think both parties will regret the move.

I fail to see why I should have to spell out what I think is obvious.

You claimed Midge was our best player last season. I'm not arguing with that. You claim he won't get a regular game with the Real Saints. I have not argued with that either-time will tell.

All I was alluding to was the obvious fact that that is a VERY sad reflection of our current status in Scottish football.
mortonjag 2008-06-30 19:18:31
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Jun 30 2008, 06:42 PM) [snapback]469530[/snapback]
Mr Jag....you can be a pleb sometimes....button it for a change and actually try and not post for 5 seconds

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mortonjag 2008-06-30 19:21:37
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jun 30 2008, 06:19 PM) [snapback]469524[/snapback]
in that case i would be thanking allah!

That was the point- A Jew would NEVER thank 'The Lord'. blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-01 07:29:54
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 1 2008, 12:36 AM) [snapback]469674[/snapback]
it can't be true then

Enough of your idle uninformed speculation Alistair! ph34r.gif


Like CJ Ton, you're just another poster who has a wee bit more information from the home town than the common 5/8ths, and takes pleasure in thinking he knows FAR more than he does..

Accusing others of 'speculation' on the basis of your limited inside knowledge makes you appear childish-either that or you are just an inveterate 'stirrer'.

In either case, what's WRONG with speculation? It's the substance of a large percentage of this boards content, and it's the starting point for the unravelling of most mysteries.


mortonjag 2008-07-01 07:41:12
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 1 2008, 05:58 AM) [snapback]469695[/snapback]
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different environment

different hierarchy



hi·er·ar·chy
1. any system of persons or things ranked one above another.
2. government by ecclesiastical rulers.
3. the power or dominion of a hierarch.

au·toc·ra·cy
1. government in which one person has uncontrolled or unlimited authority over others; the government or power of an absolute monarch.
2. a nation, state, or community ruled by an autocrat.
3. unlimited authority, power, or influence of one person in any group
mortonjag 2008-07-01 07:47:56
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 1 2008, 02:20 AM) [snapback]469684[/snapback]
Gidday Flight Ton,

frequency of posting creates a pleb ??

discuss

But don't tell Julius.

Was that REALLY Flight?

Could be wrong but it seemed more like the comment you'd get from some wean with access to his computer. huh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-01 07:53:53
QUOTE(enigmaton @ Jul 1 2008, 01:07 AM) [snapback]469679[/snapback]
Just make sure they are dead.
It's "murder" having to kill them again and then f'uck them.
You can never get the fact they were still alive out your head.



I guess it must be a bit of a conscience jerker.

Mine are always dead. Before I remove my clothes, I smash their heads to pulp with my club hammer just to make sure.
mortonjag 2008-07-01 08:04:36
QUOTE(dmc @ Jul 1 2008, 12:24 AM) [snapback]469671[/snapback]
Erotic as f*** by the way!! blush.gif
They canny half eat s***e!! wub.gif


All the eating of the crap etc., does very little for me, but that bit with the close up of the jobby coming out her arse is a physiological gem.

I used to spend hours watching cows crapping in fields, but this is second to none.
mortonjag 2008-07-01 08:09:22 Dear Aunt Agony,

Is this habit of shagging the wee cardboard insert of a lavvy roll quite common?
mortonjag 2008-07-01 14:09:28
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 1 2008, 07:39 AM) [snapback]469700[/snapback]
In either case, what's WRONG with speculation?

Simply that speculation should be totally unnecessary.

A simple statement of TWO sentences from Cappielow would be enough to clarify:

AD's shareholding (if any)

GC's subscription to the current share issue



Then we could speculate on the wisdom of money being spent on Cappielow rather than the quality of the squad.

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QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 1 2008, 09:31 AM) [snapback]469719[/snapback]
mortonjag takes another stab in the dark


i'm simply going on what's in the public domain
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Bang on the money Alistair-'the Club' would prefer us to speculate while sitting doing a keech-Beano in hands- and 'DOH' ing to our hearts content. rip.gif shutup.gif wacko.gif wacko.gif wacko.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-01 14:47:18 Why is the Stadium about to be upgraded to SPL standard when Rae's skint?

This time last year the fans had the wool pulled over their eyes with 'giving those boys a chance to take us forward'.

But for the grace of God, JM might have been persuaded to stay (AS SHOOGLY WANTED) and we'd be back in division 2 with the fans to blame!
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This time he's pinning his hopes (of WHAT, I'm not quite sure) on the DI/DC combination.

Those guys pulled the rabbit out of the hat for him against the odds. That's really all we have to go on-yet Shoogly seems to imagine they can challenge for the SPL with a Port Juniors quality squad.

Or wait-is this to be more 'CONSOLIDATION' ph34r.gif dry.gif dry.gif

Alistair Donald's waiting in the wings, while Crawford gets the new stadium ready for them. It would appear that they are both waiting to pounce!

Am I REALLY worried about the lack of signings? NOPE folks. Golden Casket's blown its gasket. Nothing will improve without inward investment.

If Rae thinks he's going to pull in more through the gates next season he can forget it. We're in for more dreary football and more 'grinding out of results'. He's been content to give us second best for several seasons and blame all around. Nothing has changed. thumbdown.gif




mortonjag 2008-07-01 15:15:03
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jul 1 2008, 02:17 PM) [snapback]469858[/snapback]
I see a couple of Nips have made it to women's quarterfinal day at Wimbledon.

Venus is doing not too badly either ph34r.gif

Venus has a nice pair of nips, or is that Serena?
mortonjag 2008-07-01 15:17:34
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 1 2008, 10:18 AM) [snapback]469743[/snapback]
f*** me, you've got issues Doc.

Do you REALLY want TiD left to do all the work?
mortonjag 2008-07-01 15:20:12
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jul 1 2008, 10:17 AM) [snapback]469741[/snapback]
What makes you think I've never liked you?

Maybe something to do with that time he came in when you were having your jobby supper.
mortonjag 2008-07-01 15:24:43
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 1 2008, 10:16 AM) [snapback]469739[/snapback]
A guy I know apparently ended up with baked bean skin hanging from his sabre after venturing up the back entrance.

I use an empty baked bean tin as a condom-it's a tight fit, but a million poofters every day aren't disappointed.
mortonjag 2008-07-01 15:33:11
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jul 1 2008, 10:30 AM) [snapback]469755[/snapback]
Thank you. Nearly winning promotion, have a couple of games to go. Tontastics wife beat me a couple of weeks ago, you would think that would be enough to get me in with the other Jessies on here. sad.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-01 15:38:24 Murray is the spoilt brat par excellence-even McEnroe despises him.

His mother is a total embarrassment as she sits watching her foisted ambition behave like a frustrated three year old.

Biggest emetic of all-they're now well and truly INGLISH.

Tennis is for pouffes and girls. Murray's a big Jessie.
mortonjag 2008-07-01 16:00:49
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 1 2008, 08:00 AM) [snapback]469705[/snapback]
Do Inverclyde weans frequently discuss the role of the plebs in society ??

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I don't know much about Inverclyde weans Newt-except from meeting them on this pubic massage board. Very few of them are over fifty.
mortonjag 2008-07-01 16:26:22 Looks like Scotty called it right. Folk who spy on others' bebos and then post information not intended for them in the first place- ARE MORONS, IMHO.
mortonjag 2008-07-01 16:32:14
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jul 1 2008, 04:27 PM) [snapback]469934[/snapback]
Federer and one of the Williams brothers, not sure which one yet.

They're pouffes too.
mortonjag 2008-07-01 16:41:44
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jul 1 2008, 04:36 PM) [snapback]469940[/snapback]
St Johnstone to win it

Airdrie to finish bottom, Livi for the playoffs

7th place

I agreed with you , but I put us 5th.

You won't know I agreed with you 'cos I'm on ignore as 'I ALWAYS talk sh*te'.
mortonjag 2008-07-01 16:45:51
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jul 1 2008, 04:32 PM) [snapback]469938[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-07-01 17:09:19
QUOTE(Rossco @ Jul 1 2008, 05:04 PM) [snapback]469946[/snapback]
Does he want us to kiss his arse even though he isn't playing well ?
Thank God he is gone thats all I can say.

Fing finks your avatar's bloody brilliant!

When are Kermit's tadpoles due, the Monkey's asking?
mortonjag 2008-07-01 18:04:56
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jul 1 2008, 05:54 PM) [snapback]469975[/snapback]
You can say that again, every f***ing year.

Thank f*** i didnt buy a season ticket or top this year.

And for folk above who say things are ok must be let out of Rae's nuthouse

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mortonjag 2008-07-01 18:10:52
QUOTE(Rossco @ Jul 1 2008, 05:47 PM) [snapback]469966[/snapback]
Alacaplunct Tuesday which is on a Friday this year.

I thought it was a Thursday, but Fing just reminded me it's a Leap year.
mortonjag 2008-07-01 18:15:28
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jul 1 2008, 05:53 PM) [snapback]469974[/snapback]
I think i've worked it out, you're just plain weird. laugh.gif

Look here sonny boy-you don't get to my age without having tried everything every way. I DID try the conventional HP tomato sauce squeezy bottle with the neck cut to fit, but I developed warts on my knob.
mortonjag 2008-07-01 18:18:01 f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing general nonsense for this pish.
mortonjag 2008-07-01 18:22:59
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 1 2008, 06:12 PM) [snapback]469990[/snapback]
Surely the key word here ought to be "immediate", or should I just join in the online pogrom?

I think you should. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-01 18:24:31
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 1 2008, 06:15 PM) [snapback]469994[/snapback]
Pretty much sums up what most thought. Irons didn't look like adding too many names to the squad over the close season.

EDIT: Oops, didn't see other thread..

Is that a FACT? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-01 18:27:35
QUOTE(Mick @ Jul 1 2008, 06:22 PM) [snapback]470000[/snapback]
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f*** up Deego.

You know, I did consider that when I was about to post. I then remembered the 'Over-18' nature of these threads....and thought it a more responsible place for this to be....

The yoof on the other boards are just so impressionable.... happy.gif

In any case, I'm sure you'll find that TJVTCF is a sub-forum on General Nonsense..... bawbag. rolleyes.gif

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Well let's sort it out for you-FAGS

For A Good Shag? wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-01 18:31:45
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 1 2008, 06:18 PM) [snapback]469998[/snapback]
Unless you have a small blemish on your johnson seeing as it is lightly salted....can get a bit painful.
So I'm told



Well you're told wrong son-once you get to the stage of wanking you'll realise that when you're in full flight you couldn't care less if the Lurpak tub was half full of rusty nails.
mortonjag 2008-07-01 18:39:06
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jul 1 2008, 06:16 PM) [snapback]469996[/snapback]
I'd say she is as far away from a total embarrassment as is humanly possible. Very intelligent, articulate women.

I'd say there is a bizarre class sodden Oedipus Complex surrounding your outpourings here. Very sad and quite beneath you if you don't mind me saying.

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....and I'd say Mr McArthur that you appear to be a total sucker for apparently intelligent, apparently articulate, apparently attractive woman of a certain age.

I just can't abide frustrated middle class bitches foisting their unfulfilled ambitions on their brattish and jumped up sprogs.

Guess we may have to agree to differ, though I'm right.
mortonjag 2008-07-01 19:02:18
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 1 2008, 06:27 PM) [snapback]470008[/snapback]
Give it a rest... rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-01 19:07:14
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 1 2008, 07:00 PM) [snapback]470020[/snapback]
Look, all we can gather is that Innes is still pissing around with us and a contract and there's still quite a few undesirables still at the club who I'm sure Irons thought would be long gone by now.
We've got a stronger base squad now than we had this time last season, and if Irons is trying to find better options than Robinson or Arbuckle then I for one am willing to wait.
We've already had a couple of decent, swift Bosman signings, now we ought to play a longer game.

He shouldn't have listened to Alistair Donald.
mortonjag 2008-07-01 19:10:39
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 1 2008, 06:36 PM) [snapback]470015[/snapback]
Aye cos at the moment I am just f***ing this hole I put into my mattress. That's not masturbation is it? happy.gif

Nope-it's fantasy.
mortonjag 2008-07-01 20:08:27
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 1 2008, 07:16 PM) [snapback]470029[/snapback]
Not always, and particularly in this case. Mr Murray's mother is anything but an embarrassment, conducts herself impeccably well.

MR Murray-that says it all!

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mortonjag 2008-07-01 20:11:53
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jul 1 2008, 07:49 PM) [snapback]470046[/snapback]
I think there's an initial splurge of "ooh, I'm being naughty!" threads and patter cos we've been unleashed on here, but this will settle - we're all taking advantage of the lax rules, I'm sure there will be more mature threads in time, but you can let loose on them, if you know what I mean?

Yip-the standard will drop like a whores knickers.
mortonjag 2008-07-01 20:15:13
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jul 1 2008, 07:47 PM) [snapback]470042[/snapback]
Is that two hairy guys and one cup? bag.gif

or sookin' the priest's knob.
mortonjag 2008-07-01 20:27:01 Quite simply-would you shag a woman with a wooden leg?

I don't mean use a prosthetic limb to pleasure her-but suppose you met the most beautiful, happy, intelligent woman with a personality to die for-dated her a couple of times, and when the inevitable evening of passion arrived, you ran your hand up her thigh and got a skelf embedded in your palm?

Would that be an instant turn off, or would you continue the adventure?

mortonjag 2008-07-01 20:41:53
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jul 1 2008, 08:33 PM) [snapback]470071[/snapback]
My friend met such a girl at Clattie-Pats. He was quite please with his conquest.

As an added bonus, she went like the calipers. blink.gif

I can quite believe that-I don't see why the absence of a limb or limbs should in any way be an inhibition to either party. Was she OK otherwise, or did he have to give her a hand?

mortonjag 2008-07-01 20:49:36
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jul 1 2008, 08:20 PM) [snapback]470062[/snapback]
My personal favourite is Iron Maidens the number of the beast, although I only ever make it to the end of the creepy voice at the start wub.gif

Is this five finger boogie stuff we're talking about?
mortonjag 2008-07-01 20:57:12
QUOTE(SkinTON @ Jul 1 2008, 08:43 PM) [snapback]470077[/snapback]
I'm very worried on a few levels.

I'm worried about the size of the squad for the coming season and fear we will struggle again like last season, but I'm willing to let Davie Irons and the team prove me wrong on that one and will give the team all the support I can, because I also believe the limited squad we have is capable with the right guidance to surprise us. (here's hoping)

The biggest worry for me is the apparent lack of funding the club has available and the lack of communication regarding this. It would be great if the club could give us greater detail into it's financial status and supply us with details on what they are doing to address this, i.e. attracting investors/other sponsors to ease this problem.

How can we possibly be looking to invest in the upgrade of Cappielow to SPL standard, when we don't even have the resource and finance to attract the quality players required to get us there. We don't even have a youth policy in place to create some of this resource ourselves.

I just wish the club would open up to the fans once again as it was when we started out fresh in the 3rd division. The club were happy to have this close association with the fans when we were riding high on a wave of new optimism and we had the abundant resource and backing to get us out of leagues we should never have been in, albeit after many attempts. But here we are again back in the 1st Division and the hush from the club towards the fans is unbelievable.

The message they are giving out to fans in my opinion is that the club under the current regime has reached it's level, so its time to keep quiet, sit tight, every now and then feed us information to keep the optimism going, but in general be content with the status of recurring 1st division football. I sincerely hope I am wrong on this, but this is starting to become reminiscent of the many years we spent lumbering away under the guidance of John Wilson.

Will this club ever push towards it's full potential? I'm don't know, but it frustrates the hell out of me wondering what we could have. Just look at our friends in Paisley for reference.


It sticks in my craw to say this, but look what Hamilton have achieved. Seems only a couple of seasons since we were well ahead of them in the league at one point.
mortonjag 2008-07-01 21:02:07
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jul 1 2008, 08:56 PM) [snapback]470086[/snapback]
Disappointed to see you join the anti-Rae brigade Alan. sad.gif

I didn't know there was one Smiffy-tell me how to join please.
mortonjag 2008-07-01 21:23:57
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 1 2008, 09:08 PM) [snapback]470100[/snapback]
Being the founder is not the same as joining wink.gif

I was actually being serious. I'm not aware of any anti-Rae Brigade. FFS I've only met three posters-all on a solitary occasion.

People make up their own minds based on what they hear and see. Some take longer than others to reach conclusions.

Fortunately only a small proportion of folk is incapable of ever seeing things as they are. It's perfectly obvious that the majority is now not too happy with the status quo.
mortonjag 2008-07-01 21:33:06
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 1 2008, 08:51 PM) [snapback]470083[/snapback]
Your overuse of smilies obviously means you have no leg to stand on over the issue.

Case closed.

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As the man with the wooden leg said, it's a matter of a pinion.
mortonjag 2008-07-01 21:38:26
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jul 1 2008, 09:31 PM) [snapback]470142[/snapback]
I used to have a porno with midgets in it

My mate humped a midget aswell

Did they have legs?
mortonjag 2008-07-02 05:33:04
QUOTE(Savo @ Jul 1 2008, 10:23 PM) [snapback]470198[/snapback]
Funny you mention Hamilton. When I read an article on them in tonight's Evening Times my heart sank at just how far ahead Accies are of us now.

I know MacDonald assumed control of a club with a suitable stadium and office space it could rent, but nonetheless they have still gone from being £5m in debt to having SPL football, with nearly 3000 season tickets sold, local business falling over themselves to pledge sponsorship, 14 youth teams etc. etc. It makes sobering reading for us, but good luck to them for getting it right on and off the park I suppose.

Well worth a read, the last section in particular: Accies article

Cheers-even allowing for the obvious media hype they've done really well with a MUCH smaller fan base than ours. I guess I'm mainly preaching to the converted now about Mr Rae. Time to move on and ask what the f*ck he's going to do about it.

mortonjag 2008-07-02 05:43:43 All three of those players have had significant injuries over the last couple of seasons. They are contracted to the club and receive an income per the contract. WHY should they limp away unless for something better?

Football's the strangest of games-any one of them could turn around his form and surprise us, though in Davie's case (and he's the consummate pro) I do feel he found his level in division 2.
mortonjag 2008-07-02 05:59:35
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jul 1 2008, 09:27 PM) [snapback]470129[/snapback]
My mate used to be a necrophiliac, till some rotten c*** split on him.
I'll get the jaikit .........

TonInDublin

Lazy b*****d-he should have turned her over first-I find the men much more stimulating TBH.
mortonjag 2008-07-02 06:01:48
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 1 2008, 10:14 PM) [snapback]470191[/snapback]
I think for legnth and noises...this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia7vWGsTBFo

Dream on Puggs.
mortonjag 2008-07-02 06:05:57 That comes a very poor second to the other one-look at that wee skimpy apology for a jobby hanging out-she needs some serious dietary advice.
mortonjag 2008-07-02 06:12:34
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jul 1 2008, 09:36 PM) [snapback]470149[/snapback]
Does the Pope have a wooden dick? tongue.gif

Yes, all twelve inches of it though he doesn't use it as a rule-well not for shagging. It's known in the Vatican as 'Nobus Sanctus' ('Holy Willie' for the great unwashed).
mortonjag 2008-07-02 06:22:04 I've just remembered the make of ice cream-it's Jamaican Ginger-the jobby in the glass is a dead ringer for it. It's got wee raisins through it too.

There's nothing disgusting about a human jobby coming out-I find it MUCH more pleasant that watching people chew their snotters.
mortonjag 2008-07-02 07:21:35
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 2 2008, 06:46 AM) [snapback]470282[/snapback]
I'm assuming it's the one at the back here (geddit?)

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDI suspect folk think I'm trying to be disgusting, but the minute I saw that jobby in the glass it was deja view. I could almost taste it. I actually started salivating and the Monkey rushed for the padded spoon. He's well trained in first aid you know. He's pulled me out of many a hole.
mortonjag 2008-07-02 07:36:41


Apology on the cards as police pup picture sparks warning over offence to Muslims





A POLICE force has apologised over concerns that an advertisement featuring a German shepherd pup could be offensive to the Islamic community.
As part of a campaign to publicise its new non-emergency telephone number, Tayside Police used a picture of a black puppy, Rebel, on postcards to be distributed throughout the east coast region.

However, following the intervention of Mohammed Asif, a Dundee councillor who warned police the image would "not be welcomed" by some communities, the force described the publicity drive as an "oversight".

Mr Asif, a member of the Tayside Joint Police Board, raised the matter on Monday after claiming the potentially offensive nature of the postcards had been brought to his attention by members of the city's 3,000-strong Muslim community.

Traditionally, dogs have been seen as impure, and the Islamic legal tradition has developed several injunctions that warn Muslims against most contact with them.

Mr Asif, a Labour councillor for Dundee's Coldside ward, said some shopkeepers would refuse to display the postcard.

He said: "My concern was that it's not welcomed by all communities. With the dog on the cards, it was probably a waste of resources going to these communities.

"People who have shops just won't put up the postcard. But the police have said to me that it was simply an oversight and they did not seek to offend or upset."

Tayside Police said they chose the image of Rebel in light of the puppy's popularity locally and online, where his blog has attracted thousands of visitors. The postcards were sent to every home and business in the Tayside area.

A spokesman for the force said he was unable to provide costings for the thousands of postcards, and that the possibility of pulling them from circulation was still under investigation.

He added: "Trainee police dog Rebel has proved extremely popular with children and adults since being introduced to the public, aged six weeks, as Tayside Police's newest canine recruit."

He added: "We did not seek advice from the force's diversity adviser prior to publishing and distributing the postcards. That was an oversight and we apologise for any offence caused."

However, a member of staff at the Al-Maktoum Institute for Arabic and Islamic Studies, a Dundee-based organisation which seeks to promote intelligent debate and understanding of Islam, disputed Mr Asif's claims that the image could be deemed offensive.

The staff member, who did not wish to be named, said: "In scripture, having a dog as a pet is considered forbidden, as they are considered unclean animals, and you must wash and clean after handling them.

"However, dogs can be used to hunt or farm, or even as guide dogs for the blind. I would not say a picture of a dog is offensive, but people have different sensibilities and different limits."

Osama Saeed, chief executive of the Scottish-Islamic Foundation, said Muslims traditionally regarded dogs differently from people brought up in western culture, and suggested that Mr Asif's remarks had been taken out of context.

He said: "It does not appear to me that Mohammed Asif has mentioned anywhere that Muslims as a faith group would find this offensive.

"This seems to be a complaint based on culture rather than religion. There isn't any Islamic basis for taking issue with a simple picture of a little puppy."

Ian Mackintosh, an Angus councillor and convener of the Tayside Joint Police Board, said: "The force has made it clear that it was an oversight not to consult their diversity adviser on this occasion and that there was no intention to cause upset or offence."

Mr Asif, depute convener of the council's leisure, arts and communities committee, was not available for further comment yesterday.





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mortonjag 2008-07-02 08:02:29
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 2 2008, 07:52 AM) [snapback]470285[/snapback]
Traditionally, dogs have been seen as impure, and the Islamic legal tradition has developed several injunctions that warn Muslims against most contact with them.
I had the not infrequent experience of seeing some Muslims walking down a main street in Sydney, in front of a member of their clergy, and asking/telling people coming towards them with dogs to ...

CROSS THE STREET !!!

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What did they do-I guess I know what I would have done if I'd been a Rottweiler.
mortonjag 2008-07-02 08:19:00
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 2 2008, 08:11 AM) [snapback]470289[/snapback]
They took their dog(s) across the road.

A good combination ... a Rottweiler and a video camera.

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Were the dogs only allowed to walk on one side of the road?
mortonjag 2008-07-02 08:43:19
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 2 2008, 08:26 AM) [snapback]470293[/snapback]
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The Muslims did not want the canines near their clergyman.

Dogs may we walked anywhere on a leash.

A couple of rottweilers and/or Rhodesian ridgebacks would be interesting.

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I do understand, but surely if the dogs were allowed to be there the Muslims should not have objected! huh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-02 08:51:12
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 2 2008, 08:46 AM) [snapback]470299[/snapback]
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who is going to cross the street ?

an Islamic cleric or a dog ?

Well it just seems to me that if they both have an equal right to be there, there should be mutual respect for that.
mortonjag 2008-07-02 09:35:44
QUOTE(irvineTON @ Jul 2 2008, 08:39 AM) [snapback]470294[/snapback]
I think there is a hard worker amongst them.
I wasn't starting the thread to completely have a go at the 3 players in question, was just intereseted to see the views on the 3 as it looks increasingly like they will be plying their trade at Scappa next season. My only gripe is that it seems like with them staying, then it is denying the manager getting better quality in the door. Of course they have a contract tho, so are entitled to sit on their laurels till it is up. I suppose its a case of if they think they can knuckle down and force themselves into the managers plans or are happy to pick up a Full-Time wage for as long as they can, as they will more than likely be moved on at the end of this coming season!!


Professional footballers generally agree that getting a regular game is extremely important.

Many a player has made a financially unattractive move in the hope that he would do better elsewhere and win out in the end. I feel that any of those three boys would move on if something reasonably attractive came up, but the problem is that they didn't get much chance to 'show their wares' last season. If they're feeling 'left out/let down I'd hardly expect them to be dancing in glee.

It looks like they don't have much choice but to 'sit tight' on their contracts.
mortonjag 2008-07-02 11:29:09

QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 1 2008, 12:36 PM) [snapback]469801[/snapback]
You can draw your own conclusions as to whom I was referring!!




Indeed YA NUMPTY-that's the nicest thing you've ever called me-happy days beckon.

Dialect-chiefly Scots

A bumbling fool:one who is intellectually challenged. laugh.gif



mortonjag 2008-07-02 11:53:41
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jul 2 2008, 10:45 AM) [snapback]470329[/snapback]
oh dear unsure.gif

Indeed-the aim is dire-it must be almost a foot below her mouth.
mortonjag 2008-07-02 12:00:17 I have to confess to being a dirty b*stard-loads of filthy habits like spitting, scratching my arse in public, burping loudly, farting pure mingers etc. I'll even admit to having wiped my knob dry on the curtains more than once when pressed for time, and there are a couple more I'll keep to myself, but CHEWIN' SNOTTERS is vile. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-02 12:09:44
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 2 2008, 11:46 AM) [snapback]470368[/snapback]
OK - delete insolvency jokes, insert medical jokes ...
A bloke walked into the mortonjag's surgery for an appointment.

"Would you like to tell me your problem?" the pretty receptionist asked. "I'll need the information for the doctor."

"It's rather embarrassing," the guy stammered. "You see, I have a very large and almost constant erection."

"Well, mortonjag is very busy today," the receptionist cooed, "but maybe I can squeeze you in."

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mortonjag 2008-07-02 12:20:27
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jul 2 2008, 11:51 AM) [snapback]470373[/snapback]
personally I would not have sold my soul the way he has done, I'd have continued to show my colours only being the Scottish saltire. It's a bit hypocritical like when Gordon Brown said one of his favourite sporting moments was when England won the world cup.

I will still be cheering him on today though.



QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jul 2 2008, 11:55 AM) [snapback]470379[/snapback]
This whole episode is ridiculous on every level.
Some of the English press has been disgraceful. The Times yesterday and The Independent on Monday both had shocking pieces about Murray and if 'Scottish' had been substituted with black or Muslim the police would have been involved no doubt. Mark Steel had a good article in The Independent today saying it's the snobbery of the 'Home Counties English' that's the problem who all loved 'Tim Henman and his stiff middle class nature'. These people thought it was terrible when Fred Perry won the tournament because he was of the 'wrong social class'.
Conversely, some of the comments from Scots about Murray in a Union Flag are equally disgraceful. These people are just idiots frankly and wouldn't be happy unless Murray played wearing a kilt and drinking Famous Grouse during breaks in games.
The bottom line is a kid from Dunblane who is in the last 8 of Wimbledon and we should applaud him for that without bringing petty prejudices into it.

He's twenty one, upper middle class, f*cked off to Barcelona when he was fifteen for training other Scottish 'kids' would die for, and shares a millionaire's bachelor pad in London with big brother.

And YOU accuse the press of bending the truth Mr McArthur!

He's no more 'a kid from Dunblane' than Coulthard was ever 'a kid from Twynholm'.

Having said all that I'd still be rooting for him today if he was not also a petulant spoilt brat whose behaviour would not be tolerated in the sort of sports that normal Scottish kids enjoy.

Oh and that Mother of his-NUFF SAID. thumbdown.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-02 12:44:40
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 2 2008, 12:23 PM) [snapback]470393[/snapback]
mortonjag had become fed up with malpractice insurance and was on the verge of being burned out.

Hoping to try another career where skillful hands would be beneficial, he decided to change careers and become a mechanic.

He found out from James Watt college what was involved, signed up for evening classes, attended
diligently, and learned all he could.

When the time for the practical exam approached, mortonjag prepared carefully for weeks, and
completed the exam with tremendous skill.

When the results came back, he was surprised to find that he had obtained a score of 150%.

Fearing an error, he called the instructor, saying, "I don't want to appear ungrateful for such an
outstanding result, but I wondered if there had been an error which needed adjusting."

The instructor said, "During the exam, you took the engine apart perfectly, which was worth 50% of the
total mark. You put the engine back together again perfectly, which is also worth 50% of the mark."

The instructor went on to say, "I gave you an extra 50% because you did all of it through the muffler."

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My receptionists were all giggling one day-they claimed there was a muffled titter going round the waiting room.

I glanced out and there she was- Mrs McClumpha-all boobs and scarf.
mortonjag 2008-07-02 12:50:21
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 2 2008, 12:44 PM) [snapback]470398[/snapback]
Who really gives a sh*t? It's a dreadful sport, Murray is a comestain and the English supporters are his w**k rag.

Surprised Spurtle hasn't been on demanding he be stripped of his balls.
mortonjag 2008-07-02 13:04:00
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jul 2 2008, 12:53 PM) [snapback]470405[/snapback]
Is there anything inoffensive to Muslims ? They do seem to be preoccupied with somewhat petty issues .

Almost all the Muslims I know-including a few I regard as friends, have no objection to money.

QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jul 2 2008, 12:54 PM) [snapback]470407[/snapback]
seeing as my last posts on this subject were obviously deemed ' offensive' , which they werent meant to be.. heres my 2 bobs worth..

if anyone comes to live in my beutiful country (Scotland), then they should respect the culture which we have, god knows it's eveolved over hundreds if not thousands of years, and I for one dont want it to change, so why should our authorities bow down to religious beliefs or otherwise of incoming nationals to the detriment of the people who live and were born here... next we will have christmass cards banned because they show baby jesus on them ! my religion tells us we should 'not worship false gods'..as the prophet mohamed is , in my religions belief ' a false god' then temples to worship him are offensive to me.. but am i allowed to say this ??? are the authorities going to stop planning permission for such buildings ?? if they dont like our culture then they should move out of our country.. my belief, and I'm certainly NO RACIST.. I just want to be allowed to wallow in the culture and beliefs that I was brought up with in my country and pass them on to my family without being demonised as a racist because someone else doesnt want to live in their own country.

I regard that as an extremely valid point. OK I'm willing to accept that we are perhaps only nominally a 'Christian' country nowadays, but I fail to see why our culture, values, and beliefs should be diluted in order that incomers can impose theirs. Tolerance should cut both ways, AND be seen to do so.
mortonjag 2008-07-02 13:11:24
QUOTE(stuart @ Jul 2 2008, 01:02 PM) [snapback]470412[/snapback]
Maybe he feels proud to be British and wanted to wave the British flag?Not sure why people are condemning him at all. He also got a lot of his funding from the LTA which is a British Association also so of course he is entitled to have that flag if he wants.

ANd if it gets him even more support than he got on Monday night then it is a good move on his part, he would never have won on Monday without that crowd behind him.

It's called being 'On the make'-he learned it from Mummy.
mortonjag 2008-07-02 13:16:50
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jul 2 2008, 01:05 PM) [snapback]470416[/snapback]
if she had no arms how do you get a w**k....

An armless young woman called Jean
has invented a w*nking machine
for only two bob
it's attached to your knob
and you come when the light turns to green.
mortonjag 2008-07-02 13:26:46
QUOTE(cmdc @ Jul 2 2008, 01:15 PM) [snapback]470424[/snapback]
Aren't there three Muslim sources quoted in the article, with only one claiming that the postcard might not be used by Muslim shopkeepers?

Indeed, but the Polis are paid by the Cooncil.
mortonjag 2008-07-02 13:30:08
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 2 2008, 01:24 PM) [snapback]470432[/snapback]
Whether some believe me or not, I'll say I wouldn't under any circumstances pose for a picture like Murray did.
I understand why he did it.He did it much in the same way Gordon Brown latched on to the britishness nonsence, basically to make them more appealing to the English because they are Scots.
But for me, and the poltical climate that now exists here in Scotland, he has poltiticized his actions. He has brought politics into his sport when perhaps he didn't want that to happen.
The debate here in Scotland is whether you are a nationalist or a unionist, something that doesn't as yet exist on the same level in England.

Until we get out of this despicable union Scots will continue to have to put the flag of their nation to one side and pick up the union flag and adopt the nationality of being british rather than Scottish.

I hope he loses his next match....

Oh don't you worry Spurtle- I'm looking forward to it-and to Mrs Murray's regular 'bathroom breaks'.
mortonjag 2008-07-02 13:34:15
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 2 2008, 01:23 PM) [snapback]470429[/snapback]
Nope. If Mick wants to post a thread without having to worry about a load of 14 year old spammers hijacking it with their s*** patter then he's free to do it in here. It doesn't ALL have to be about anal sex and muffing burds on their dabs.

You have a very good point Moderator-Sir laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-02 13:40:40
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jul 2 2008, 01:35 PM) [snapback]470440[/snapback]
Col, what has politicised his actions is that someone has handed him a UJ and said "pose with this round your shoulders". For PR reasons he has done it. Possibly he has little interest in politics himself. It is pretty likely that in this instance he has been manipulated by PR or press people. I think we all know that he is not making any personal statement about being British. Personally if some one gave me a UJ and asked me to wear it, I would refuse, and WDE's Morton/Rangers scenario rings true with me too. As for going to work with a UJ on my clothes every day, well I don't think that's ever likely to happen - you can probably cut through the threads that it's been sewn on with, there, problem solved.

Anyway, Murray has my support - if he renounced Scotland I would reconsider but I think he's made it quite clear in the past that he considers himself Scottish.

The flag issue's neither here nor there for me. I'd love to see a young Scotsman doing us proud in any sport. Murray comes over as an arrogant spoilt rich kid brat, and to me that is not representative of being Scots.
mortonjag 2008-07-02 19:39:19
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Jul 2 2008, 04:03 PM) [snapback]470505[/snapback]
I am possibly slightly more confused than worried about conflicting press releases from Cappielow. This follows a trend over the last few seasons when ambitious noises about signings etc. were made at the start of the close season, our hopes were built up, then the proposals have been modified to varying degrees.

This has transcended McCormack, McInally and now Irons, making them look as though they can’t back up their ambitious words with action. No matter what we think of these three managers, I think we’d possibly agree honesty is a trait they share. This causes me to think there is something happening behind the scenes outwith their control. It appears they have had their minds changed for them.

I wonder if when they made their signing intensions known, it’s based on what they’ve been told by the board, then for some reason this does not materialize and they are left to backtrack quite embarrassingly, while the board stay in the background. It may be that someone on the board gets very enthusiastic about the next season and talks about what he’d like to do, then when the crunch comes he just can’t or won’t deliver, or simply changes his mind. If this doesn’t add up can anyone suggest any other reasons?

Despite this being quite a recurring trend, I am still hopeful we will make two or three more decent signings, however I believe we are delaying ambitions of mounting a title challenge till possibly next season.


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QUOTE(Malt @ Jul 2 2008, 04:16 PM) [snapback]470513[/snapback]
I think Rae definately influences the Manager's decisions. We have seen Cowboy, McInally and Irons all state they need xyz and half way through the jigsaw the suddently feel they have enough. Seems to me the Chairman tells them one thing but does another!

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QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jul 2 2008, 04:23 PM) [snapback]470515[/snapback]
Total speculation.

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mortonjag 2008-07-02 19:49:45
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jul 2 2008, 03:35 PM) [snapback]470495[/snapback]
To be honest, MacAnespie was about as pointless a signing as you'll get. First club daft enough to take him off our hands is welcome. McGregor is no great loss either, wasn't good enough at centre-back in the third division, and sure as hell isn't in the first. Has the basic components of a good player, but if he hasn't managed to actually become one by now then he never will. We can do better, whether he's a nice, hard-working local boy or not.

As for Stevenson, then put him in front of McAlister, Paartalu, Masterton/Jenkins and Finlayson and it would be possibly the best midfield in the league. It's senseless to have a guy with so much ability and not even give him a half-decent run in that role. And don't start about "attitudes" - Weatherson is far worsefootballer, yet gets a 3 year deal, a regular place in the starting line-up and occasionally the captaincy. At least Jamie is in good physical condition.

I've been thinking for weeks that it's funny how Jamie's been written off as having an 'attitude' problem.

Very few fans seem capable of seeing the good and bad in players. If his 'attitude' problem is genetic, it must have been another guy who played for Alloa and we were palmed off with a 'lookalike'. dry.gif

He IS one player who can deliver a ball into the box-who knows, maybe under Irons we'll see him develop as a useful wide right player and for the first time in ages our strikers (and we DO have four) will get something to latch onto. I'd FAR rather see a fit and motivated Jamie on the pitch any day than superkev OR Jimbo.

mortonjag 2008-07-02 20:05:23
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Jul 2 2008, 01:48 PM) [snapback]470453[/snapback]
Post of the week, and not just because I agree with about 90% of it. I think Col and co would not insist on TFG.
Oh dear, did Mrs M knock you back at a tea dance. You really don't like her, do you.

Most people on here probably had parents or grandparents who were working before 15. It kind of negates your argument about leaving Scotland at 15. The reason he got the training - he was good and the training in UK wasn't good enough. Its why some kids get to OF teams and others languish in lower divisions. Sport filters out the quality, and the earlier it happens the better.

I can't understnad why someone would knock Murray for doing this.

I cannot abide the bitch. I detest everything she represents. I ABHOR parents remaining attached to their children by an invisible umbilical cord in order to gratify their own thirst for success and glory, and thereby denying their sprogs true freedom of choice and personal development.

As somebody else said, poor little rich kid may well wake up at the grand old age of thirty-indeed he may end up resenting his mother's all pervading influence. Who knows, he may even grow up into a mature big boy.

Anyway he's getting humped and the tantrums are starting! laugh.gif

Rule Brittania.
mortonjag 2008-07-02 20:16:25 Big hugs Judy!!

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mortonjag 2008-07-02 20:18:46 ENGLAND sends him homeward to think again!


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mortonjag 2008-07-02 21:19:31
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 2 2008, 06:34 PM) [snapback]470549[/snapback]
no chance of that round here

Oh I'd suggest there was until you peeped in Alistair. wub.gif


Anyway most folk are missing the point-cooncillors are cooncillors no matter what skin colour or religious beliefs they may have. He DOESN'T represent anything other than a minority view, and the Polis should have told him to 'f*ck off' just as they WOULD have done if it was 'offending'-say-Jehova's Witnesses.
mortonjag 2008-07-02 21:25:14
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jul 2 2008, 09:08 PM) [snapback]470589[/snapback]
So we've established that you don't know Murray or his mother personally yet you have an insight into what makes them as a family. Did your mother dream for you to be a burner in the shipyards but you had such an individual drive that you overcame all odds and became a doctor? Or did your parents love and nurture you?
The Manky Dug used to say that you were a complete t*** and I used to defend you thinking you were so deprived of company that you were just on the wind up. Now I just think you're a complete t***.

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You'll really need to meet me personally Mr McArthur! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-02 21:34:12
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 2 2008, 09:15 PM) [snapback]470592[/snapback]
i thought you didn't really bother much with fiction? tongue.gif

anyway, i seem to have something in common with tontastic, with exit music (ian rankin) and engleby (sebastian faulkes) both on the recently read list. mortonjag might appreciate engleby, who knows? smile.gif

also on the list, god is not great (christopher hitchens) is a bracing read and i've just finished candide (voltaire) rolleyes.gif

i don't have anything reserved for summer, but i might have another go at the steep approach to garbadale (iain banks) which i put down at christmas, after a few pages, having not long finished the crow road.

I'm highly impressed Pangloss. I was forced to read that crap at the proper University. Stick to the Broons-it's really good entertainment, and you don't have to try to understand what you'll never! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-02 21:39:45
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jul 2 2008, 07:43 PM) [snapback]470557[/snapback]
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'the 25/40th's norm'? unsure.gif

Izzat betur Smiffy?
mortonjag 2008-07-02 21:44:22
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Jul 2 2008, 08:57 PM) [snapback]470584[/snapback]
Sorry I don't agree, wide right under McInally meant right wing back, which minimised the impact of the likes of Stevenson and McLaren in this role. For this reason alone Finlayson was preferred. If you wanted a winger who can get past his man and fire a good cross in, who would you pick between Finlayson and Stevenson?

I watched and admired Stevenson with Alloa more than any other opposition player in the second division, and he played down the right, the left and the centre to equal effect, and there was nothing wrong with his attitude. I met him twice when he was at the top of his game, and he was the quietest and shyest player I have ever came across. I honestly don't think he has an attitude problem, he just needs his manager to believe in him.

I never did either, but he WAS thoroughly sickened by JM, and seemed to 'give up'. He's still young, and he's still got talent.
mortonjag 2008-07-02 21:47:42
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Jul 2 2008, 09:30 PM) [snapback]470602[/snapback]
Unlucky Murray, he has still made a fantastic breakthrough this year, nobody can take that away from him. I think most people would agree, aside from Nadal and Federer, against any of the other five players in the quarters today, he would have fared better.

He was playing against a guy who is rampant on clay, keeping Federer from getting his hands on the only Slam missing from his collection, and he took him to five sets in the Wimbledon final last year, so he is pretty much rampant on grass these days too!

The US Open at Flushing is next for Andy!

What an evocative phrase.
mortonjag 2008-07-02 21:52:36 I don't see anything pornographic. A lady is answering nature's call. She was clearly caught short-it happens all the time.
mortonjag 2008-07-02 21:56:32
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Jul 2 2008, 04:38 PM) [snapback]470524[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDI see Wendy's been shat on from an early age.
mortonjag 2008-07-02 22:11:25
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Jul 2 2008, 10:08 PM) [snapback]470628[/snapback]
It's that "always very kind to me" part that could get you into trouble.... wink.gif
Yo mama's so fat, the back of her neck looks like a packet of hot dogs.

Yo Mama-she some hot dog.
mortonjag 2008-07-02 22:14:42
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 2 2008, 10:07 PM) [snapback]470627[/snapback]
Indeed looks like a bit of splish splash in there too.

Never ignore nature's call!
mortonjag 2008-07-02 22:18:32
QUOTE(cappielow-doc @ Jul 2 2008, 09:45 PM) [snapback]470608[/snapback]
Cant agree with you there MJ,his mother is a tennis coach and therefore has more than a passing interest in her boys career.If i played for Morton should my father be banned from going to Cappielow to cheer me on every week or Lewis Hamiltons dad after guiding his son to F1 not be there to see his sons victories after putting in years of time,effort and money,its only natural that parents are there to cheer them on.

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QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jul 2 2008, 10:07 PM) [snapback]470626[/snapback]
No thanks.

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mortonjag 2008-07-02 22:23:11
QUOTE(SramTon @ Jul 2 2008, 10:01 PM) [snapback]470619[/snapback]
One ring to rule them all, one ring to find them, one ring to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them.

The Ring's primary power was control of the other forum members, including domination of their will. Even though the Ring could not grant the wielder the physical power to control or destroy beings greater than the Moderators it could be a very useful tool for domination of the Forum.

The Ring would also extend a mortal possessor's post-count indefinitely. Gandalf explains that it does not "grant new life", but that the possessor merely "continues" until life becomes unbearably wearisome for everyone else. Like the Nine Rings, the One Ring also has the effect of corrupting mortals who wore it for extended periods of time.

Yet in the end, the Ring's inherent corruption will twist its bearer into another Dark Lord as omnipotent and all-corrupting as Sauron was, or worse, regardless of his intentions at the outset.

My precious

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Don't bother saying your prayers tonight.
mortonjag 2008-07-02 22:30:09
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Jul 2 2008, 10:26 PM) [snapback]470636[/snapback]
Dear me. Is there any single thread on here that you don't opine on? laugh.gif

Several-you can even check if you wish!
mortonjag 2008-07-02 22:37:24
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 2 2008, 10:30 PM) [snapback]470638[/snapback]
Oh btw...according to my brother and some mates...while you two pouffes were gearing up for a fight outside apparently 2 pouffes inside were winching away and getting up to some in the toilet.

...was this you two? wink.gif

Did one of the pouffes need stuffed?
mortonjag 2008-07-02 22:41:48 I can't do those you tube links but I piss myself laughing at Morris dancing. Those c*nts actually take it so seriously.

JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZUZ laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-03 06:05:37
QUOTE(El gofer @ Jul 2 2008, 11:04 PM) [snapback]470667[/snapback]
Just read that thread.

I know CJTon, as do quite a few people on this board. He is not Crawford Rae and as he said has no direct influence or connection. He is a Morton fan of (ahem sorry CJ) 40 years. I believe that he has met AD and that he has been taking an active role in the club.

MJ, dont get defensive, he at no point said or implied you are stupid.

I may personally be getting a bit defensive, but I dont appreciate CJs name or motives being questioned as he is simply someone posting a view point on this thread.

So far as I am concerned CJ Ton is just another ANONYMOUS poster who remained effectively silent during the long running AD thread, but who chose to tell ME to be 'more positive' as soon as Crawford Rae stated that Mr Donald is 'out of the country'.

My problem with CJ Ton is that like a few others he appears to be happy with the club's 'need to know' approach to the paying customers. He also comes over as dismissive and patronising of them. Why bother to announce at the eleventh hour that 'he knew all the time', boasting that 'he's close to the inner workings of the club and knows AD'?

That, IMO is NOT 'posting a point of view' at all-in fact, reading his comments again, I note that the only considered view he appears to have is that all is hunky dory, and that Mortonjag requires a wee slap for daring to ask questions.

I strongly suspect that CJ Ton knows no more about AD's real motives than the rest of us. If that is incorrect, and he sees himself as 'one of us', maybe he will consider spilling the beans.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 06:20:58
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 2 2008, 10:58 PM) [snapback]470666[/snapback]
Keech!

Dialect-chiefly Scots

Rubbish, detritus, crap, verbal or written. Excretia, human or otherwise

See 'Thats a load of keech ya auld fart'



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GLAIKIT



(Dialect-chiefly Scots-Adj.)

Stupid, senseless, silly, giddy, thoughtless, affected, petty.

Doubtless some glaikit gomerel is about to announce-'General nonsense for this pish'! blush.gif




mortonjag 2008-07-03 06:26:54
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Jul 2 2008, 10:40 PM) [snapback]470650[/snapback]
Not sure I have as much time on my hands as you, sir. wink.gif

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I like the 'Sir' bit.

You will go far young man!
mortonjag 2008-07-03 06:28:52
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 2 2008, 10:43 PM) [snapback]470652[/snapback]
shouldn't this stuff be in that new forum? ohmy.gif

Alistair-are you sitting comfortably?


















































That made me laugh.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 06:32:10
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 2 2008, 11:10 PM) [snapback]470668[/snapback]
i think the point being missed is that this a non-story, loosely written, and spuriously posted rolleyes.gif

apparently, the police sent cards to all homes and businesses to advertise the non-emergency contact number. someone 'complained' about the imagery used. someone from the police 'apologised'. the end.

did i miss something
?

Yes.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 06:35:51
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 2 2008, 11:14 PM) [snapback]470671[/snapback]
you should be able to just rip the balls out and insert the rat where your balls used to be.

(assuming that your balls and rat are usb)

A rat wi' nae baws Alistair, and guess who posted about it! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-03 06:38:53
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 2 2008, 10:57 PM) [snapback]470665[/snapback]
candide is an easy read and it's really quite funny. did you read it as literature or philosphy?

Effin French! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-03 06:42:11
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 3 2008, 03:37 AM) [snapback]470728[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

Just for you ... Punch.

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What Mr McArthur sees in the hacket old crone on the left (as viewed) defies logic. I have already done credit to Cassius Clay! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-03 06:47:03 Cricket's for boring POUFFES.

Tennis is for POUFFES and girls.

Rugby's for big POUFFE girls.

Football is a man's game played by POUFFES.

The only really competitive sport left is Scrabble.


POUFFE is a good scrabble word.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 06:51:47
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 2 2008, 11:48 PM) [snapback]470677[/snapback]
How low is that MrsTon he's saying things about me before I was even allowed in to defend myself blink.gif
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You haven't denied it though-perhaps you have a wide wand.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 07:03:16
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 3 2008, 12:07 AM) [snapback]470685[/snapback]
OK, I'm coming out as one.

When I was 16 I worked in a local Funeral Parlour and at that tender age loved a Good Stiffie.

The best of it was they never said no !!!

I'm going back to shagging deid b*****ds !!!

How common. mad.gif

I always check the birth certificates first.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 07:09:34
QUOTE(dmc @ Jul 3 2008, 12:44 AM) [snapback]470712[/snapback]
The only s*** here is that these muslim fukers get away with anything they want and we (thanks to our fuked up government) step out of line get ripped up for being racist !! When was the last time a Christian blew up a f***in' muslim and claimed it was in the name of Jesus!!??

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QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 3 2008, 01:06 AM) [snapback]470718[/snapback]
last thursday.

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You just can't keep a secret can you. That's you off knob sookin' duties for a week.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 07:11:52 Masturbation denies poosies their rights.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 07:16:10
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Jul 3 2008, 01:45 AM) [snapback]470723[/snapback]
vastly over-rated...

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Some folk wouldn't touch cANAL sex with a barge pole.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 08:22:27
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Jul 3 2008, 07:34 AM) [snapback]470751[/snapback]
Amusing, but you're missing the point. Stevenson obviously has ability but his attitude shows a lack of professionalism, highlighted in Nacho's quote. If he doesn't follow ther simple advice how can he be trusted to follow the difficult stuff.

His REPORTED attitude may indicate a lack of professionalism.

There appeared to be no lack of professionalism at Alloa.

It takes two to tango.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 08:26:09
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 3 2008, 08:13 AM) [snapback]470752[/snapback]
thought not

You were mistaken.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 08:35:07
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jul 3 2008, 08:29 AM) [snapback]470755[/snapback]
Is that porn? Whatever floats your boat. eek.gif

It was a picture of a lady doing a jobby-I think she may have been peeing simultaneously.

Neither of those functions is recommended while clothed.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 08:40:53
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 3 2008, 12:12 AM) [snapback]470686[/snapback]
I know lots of us joke about it but do any of you....

Believe it happens
Enjoy It
Tried It

If you haven't but are thinking about it, here's a hint.

Down in the Borders, Kelso Land, they sell the wellies with the holding straps at the bottom of them to slip the sheep's legs in to and make sure they don't escape whilst you're RAMing it into them.

I'd recommend a pair blink.gif

Of course it happens-of course it's enjoyable-of course I've tried it-and that stuff about wellies is only appropriate to folk who RAPE sheep.

Sheep are lovable cuddly creatures with beautiful lips. They return warmth with warmth. My intake of mutton has soared in the last year.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 08:53:07
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 3 2008, 08:41 AM) [snapback]470760[/snapback]
i never quite got the myth that Jamie was excellent at corners and delivering free kicks. 99% of the time they were terrible.

you keep saying you'd rather see a fit and motivated Peter and Jamie, just like the fact i want to eat whipped cream off charlize theron's body...it will never happen, and i'll be left to drink sour milk out of the belly button of middle aged geography teacher called Albert.

it was down to people like Peter and Jamie we were almost relegated last season, wheras it was down to people like jim and kev that we weren't .

edit to add: people say Jamie should be given a chance because he was good in the 2nd division with alloa and decent with us, but lets not forget how s*** that division is. We were the best of a bad bunch the season we won it and our team was terrible, Stirling went right back down and if we'd kept the exact same team as we almost did we'd have been straight back down aswell.

Jamie found his level in the 2nd division where he can be the big fish in a small pond, so the sooner he goes back to his small pond the better.

if you watch the goal of the season video on youtube you can see just how horribly bad the defending was from other teams.


I've met Albert and would not advise you to go anywhere near him.

Superkev and Jimbo are machines-you just have to switch them on, and they'll faithfully go round in unvarying aimless circles until switched back off.

Jamie and Spoonsy are footballers-they have potential-realising that potential was unsurprisingly beyond JM's wit. DI will hopefully do better.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 08:57:48
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 3 2008, 08:41 AM) [snapback]470761[/snapback]
The Fib-Dems need a new leader as Nicol Stephen has resigned. He suddenly wants to "Spend time with the family"

The sudden departure makes you think there is something wrong....Aberdeen By-pass enquiry in September perhaps ?

Or is it the opposition just can't cope with the popular and charismatic leader of the SNP Alex Salmond ? laugh.gif

No
mortonjag 2008-07-03 09:04:50
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 3 2008, 09:00 AM) [snapback]470767[/snapback]
people say Jamie and Peter are the best footballers at the club, it just so happens they are the two with the worst attitudes aswell, Which i think gives me and any other Morton supporter to be annoyed at them and dislike them. There is no point being a good footballer with a terrible attitude, far far better players than those two have had their careers ruined before they've even started because of their attitude.

JM did a lot of bad things but he cant be blamed for players not realising their potential, they're big boys. If people want to make anything of themselves in whatever career they choose then they have to work hard for it. The sooner they realise this the better, although hopefully they'll be long gone by the time they do, if they ever do.

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Let's just say JM didn't exactly get the best out of them. Footballers are just wee boys-barely out of their nappies-they need guidance and support-some much more than others.

Anyway it's nine O'clock and I'm just about to walk the dog round to the 'Pakis' for my paper.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 09:28:19
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 3 2008, 09:17 AM) [snapback]470770[/snapback]
he may not have got the best out of them but their attitude wasn't his problem, he's not there to hold players hands.

when Iron's came in he persisted with Weatherson as we had no one else until he couldn't persist any longer and had to throw in wake who lets face it, was terrible in the games leading upto that point. Wake with limited ability came inand done more in a few games than Weatherson had done since Irons was appointed.

Jamie got one game under Irons and was anonymous and spent his time s***ting out of tackles, he was then told he could find a new club.

so you can't blame JM, as our new more competent manager has transfer listed on of our wonder players and dropped the other one, which in the end kept us in the 1st division. Dropping Weatherson was the most important decision any of our managers have made in years, could only get better if he had been transfer listed aswell.

It should have been and much of it was down to his. Anybody who thinks the performance of DI or any of the players he fielded in his short tenure is an accurate guide to what's about to happen may well be deluded.


Time will tell. I believe Spoonsy will be well into double figures this season. I'll be ASTONISHED if Wakey reaches ten.

I've also got a wee sneaky feeling that Jamie may well surprise us.

We must be positive! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-03 09:33:28
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jul 3 2008, 09:30 AM) [snapback]470772[/snapback]
Actually MJ, I think the answer is a resounding YES, unarguably. Nicol Stephen has been a total nonentity and every time he asks a (usually badly thought out) question at FMQs, he gets slapped down. He basically wasn't up to the job and was pretty much a personality free zone without the personal charisma that good leaders usually have in addition to some ability. I'd compare his situation to John Swinney, a very bright and capable man but definitely not a leader. Oh, and further down the food chain, Gordon Brown, who actually wasn't even that good as a chancellor but is palpably an atrocious leader, without any leadership qualities whatsoever. And better not even consider Wendy's crew because there isn't one of them has any leadership ability.

I think you may be right on the bypass business, Col. It may be that his reasons for departure are as stated but often there is more to these things than meets the eye - ditto that MP in Glasgow East who is said to be on the verge of being exposed as a master of expenses fiddling.

Aye, but you like Bawheid!
mortonjag 2008-07-03 10:43:49
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 3 2008, 09:46 AM) [snapback]470776[/snapback]
every other player that was terrible under JM performed MUCH better under DI, Robinson got progressively better, Harding and Greacen improved tenfold, Mcalister looked much more of a threat. The only player who didn't get better (infact probably got worse) was Weatherson.

Weatherson will probably have a good run of 6 or 7 games and be anonymous the rest so may well get into double figures, which isn't good enough for your main striker as the season lasts for 36 games so scoring a load of goals in a short spell really doesn't help. Similair Wake i think will get into double figures but i think he'll score one or two hat-tricks this season as well as two every so often and one here and there, but again nowhere near consistently enough for it to make a huge difference over the whole season.

we need to sign a striker who will get us a goal every 2 or 3 games as right now we don't have that.

i'd be more surprised if Jamie played a big part in our coming season than i would be if he joined the Golden Lions.

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Time will indeed tell!
mortonjag 2008-07-03 10:49:44
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jul 3 2008, 09:36 AM) [snapback]470774[/snapback]
What a country an independent Scotland will be if some of the folk on here get their way. No mention of justice or democracy or self-determination but petty, spiteful and bitter nonsense about a tennis player. The problem with most nationalist I've come into contact with is that they are inward and not outward looking and this is a real problem.
The independence the likes of myself and David Edwards advocate is a million miles from the narrow and hateful nonsense the majority on here espouse.

Good-and you may find I'm with you there.

'Petty, spiteful, and bitter nonsense'-possibly.

There again 'independence', in its truest sense, should surely make each person's perspective as valid as another's.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 10:52:35 I had a chicken Kum Po last night-it was delicious. I'd never order anything 'European' from a 'Chinky'.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 10:55:57
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 3 2008, 10:15 AM) [snapback]470778[/snapback]
good, my lips are as dry and wrinkled as your testies.

I know that-Deego's are soft and gentle, but your technique is par excellence.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 10:58:07
QUOTE(Muz @ Jul 3 2008, 10:16 AM) [snapback]470780[/snapback]
Queens of the Stone Age, Make it with Chu.

The women love that one. and me.

Sounds fun-my men are suckers for 'Onward Christian Soldiers'.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 11:01:43
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 3 2008, 10:58 AM) [snapback]470792[/snapback]
our favourite Thai

full 6 nights a week

bookings weeks in advance

http://www.buddharaksa.com.au/photos.htm



Herb/Spice Name: Chili: "Phrik" in Thai
Description: Chili is an erect, branched, shrub-like herb with fruits used as garnishing and flavouring in Thai dishes. There are many different species. All contain capsaicin, a biologically active ingredient beneficial to the respiratory system, blood pressure and heart. Other therapeutic uses include being a, carminative and anti flatulence agent, and digestant.


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mortonjag 2008-07-03 11:08:37
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 3 2008, 11:04 AM) [snapback]470797[/snapback]
some Priks can be wrinkled old Sods.

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Just when I was perking up.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 13:05:41
QUOTE(aimlesswanderer @ Jul 3 2008, 11:16 AM) [snapback]470804[/snapback]
She used to play tennis but didn't make it at the top level, so turned her attention to coaching. This is obviously how her sons got into the game, and they've done well from it. She still coaches young Scottish players. What an evil woman...

Scotland is not recognized as a separate nationality in tennis so Murray will always be representing Great Britain in tennis. Though it's interesting to hear the deafening silence from the rabid nationalists about Alex Salmond's good luck and congratulatory messages to Murray throughout Wimbledon. Surely the "Wee Eck Must Go" campaign starts here.

So she foisted her frustrated ambitions on her two wee boys-not an unusual scenario-hardly a crime-but when one turns out to be a petted spoilt brat whose behaviour makes McEnroe look like St Francis, her parenting is called into question too.
I guess you either like the hard faced cow or you just don't.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 13:33:06
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 3 2008, 01:00 PM) [snapback]470832[/snapback]
But GibbyTON and MortonJAG are wink.gif

Mortonjag would never be in a clique-TiD and Boozie were 'coaxed to take him on board'! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-03 13:35:10
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jul 3 2008, 12:21 PM) [snapback]470817[/snapback]
aah the old "a2m". hmmm, pretty degrading making your burd taste her own poop, is it not?
maybe his burd has got a fa[b]nny like a JCB bucket and he enjoyed the tightness[/b]

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mortonjag 2008-07-03 13:39:45
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 3 2008, 01:35 PM) [snapback]470856[/snapback]
Aye, but so's my hand if I lube up and grasp correctly. A sheep is just honking - their f*nn**s must be humming.

Any particular refrain?
mortonjag 2008-07-03 13:42:17
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 3 2008, 01:38 PM) [snapback]470860[/snapback]
Hey you have a few pals on here now and you decided to desert the only friend you had for a year or so, Thanks a lot, I hope you put on 4 stone and canny get to sleep at night.

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mortonjag 2008-07-03 13:50:13
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jul 3 2008, 01:40 PM) [snapback]470863[/snapback]
you've never seen my uncle Morris dancing..ya cheeky c***

Is your uncle Morris a POUFFE?
mortonjag 2008-07-03 13:52:32
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 3 2008, 01:43 PM) [snapback]470865[/snapback]
You know something thats the last post on here you'll post until you finish work as my next post on here will not be safe for work. So GIRUY.

There are no lavvys at Boozie's work in case some perv keeks in when you're doing a keech.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 14:06:03
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Jul 3 2008, 01:51 PM) [snapback]470867[/snapback]
How strange to see Mortonjag ranting about financially well off successful people. It's not like him at all since he and his family and friends are loaded and extremely satisfied in their professional lives. I believe he may have mentioned this on a couple of threads in the past.

I'm sure we'll all get behind WDE playing for the Morton jersey this season and congratulate him on not signing for Rangers for 10 times the money. This is also a stance I believe he'll live by in his takeaway food venture. If an English beef supplier offers him beef at a tenth of the price of the nearest Scottish competitor he'll still buy Scottish, even if his business goes to the wall because he refuses to buy English over Scottish.

This thread is hysterical and tragic all at once. If he'd appeared draped in a George Cross I could see the issue. Or if he'd denounced his Scottishness with some ill chosen words it would make him look like a pr*ck. Or talked about how much he enjoyed Gascoigne's goal against Scotland in '96 etc.

I really hope he doesn't have any English friends, that would be shocking.

Don't be a silly Billy.

Andy's 'just a kid from Dunblane'! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-03 14:34:56
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jul 3 2008, 02:13 PM) [snapback]470874[/snapback]
Seriously MJ, what's the problem? He's a tennis player who doesn't like losing.

I HATE losing, I'd rather break a bone than lose at anything.

And as for his mother, she conducts herself very well. I see no reason for you to judge and dislike them.


I'm not aware of any problem. I stated my considered opinion, and as usual, instead of others simply countering with theirs, I was attacked. That's the game I've come to enjoy. I wouldn't have it any other way. smile.gif


QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 3 2008, 02:30 PM) [snapback]470876[/snapback]
He's a petulant wee brat who really isn't that good at what is after all a nothing sport.
Still, he's Scottish/British - let's aw support him for that. dry.gif


....for POUFFES, girls, and Jaggyphobes.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 14:37:55
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jul 3 2008, 02:33 PM) [snapback]470877[/snapback]
do you want a date with him ??

How big is his knob?
mortonjag 2008-07-03 15:16:49
QUOTE(CJTon @ Jul 3 2008, 02:07 PM) [snapback]470872[/snapback]
MJ I remained effectively quiet until a stage at which I thought the postings were getting a bit absurb and thought I would just explain what I knew to try and help clarify the situation.

The club's "need to know" approach is one that is taken by any private limited company. That is the whole point of a "private" company. Their dealings are done in private unless they wish to make them public.

I, like you, can only speculate whether AD has motive other than his current advisory role. If he has any motives it is more than likely that he is going to keep them to himself until such time as he decides to take action and wants them to become public knowledge. If I knew anymore I would certainly not be spilling the beans as I would be compromising the privleged position that I have and breaking the trust of people who mention things in confidence to me.

I certainly do not mean to be patronising on any issues and apologies if I have come across that way.

Thanks for the clarification.

I understand and endorse what you've said about confidentiality. I think things have just got to such an 'us and them' stage between the fans and the Board, that it's hard to envisage somebody who falls somewhere in between, and I apologise if I misjudged your position.

Regarding the 'need to know' comments-most fans have little interest in the inner workings of a Private Limited Company, but they were puzzled by the apparent disappearance of our new Director, especially when the club had seen fit to announce his 'arrival' with a substantial article in the local newspaper.

That was why the thread was started.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 15:35:57
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 3 2008, 03:07 PM) [snapback]470886[/snapback]
I cant stand Morris dancers! mad.gif Bloody waste of time!

I find them bizarre but have to say they are highly comical-and they DO take it so seriously.

I heard a strange story about this lady from Dunblane whose son showed promise from an early age-she'd always wanted to be a Morris dancer herself but wasn't a POUFFE, so it seemed quite a good idea to encourage the boy-but there I go digressing again.

Spanish dancing-that's a totally different kettle of fish.

mortonjag 2008-07-03 15:46:56
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 3 2008, 03:02 PM) [snapback]470883[/snapback]
Thats an awful lot of pouffes,is it not.

It certainly is-I fear the world is being taken over by POUFFES-that and FOUTONS.

At least POUFFES are reasonably out in the open these days but there's something quite sinister about FOUTONS, don't you think?
mortonjag 2008-07-03 15:51:51
QUOTE(leg-end @ Jul 3 2008, 03:33 PM) [snapback]470897[/snapback]
Has anyone had problems with the new infant strip?

Tried to get it for my boy whos 2...the 1-2 does not go over his head, so i thought try the 3-4 and its the same!

my boy does not have a big head by the way! and is the average size for a 2 year old!

cheers

Something doesn't fit. Have you e-mailed the Club?
mortonjag 2008-07-03 16:06:15 I enjoyed the day to Annan. Apart from winning, the highlight of my day was being frisked by a steward. He seemed to enjoy it too.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 16:11:30 If I try to upload a photo at the end of text and I click 'browse', I'm asked for a URL or something.

What's that all about?
mortonjag 2008-07-03 16:15:49
QUOTE(marxist_ton @ Jul 3 2008, 04:10 PM) [snapback]470914[/snapback]
If your paying £40 for a t-shirt, you expect it to be of high quality.

I don't have any problems with the t-shirts I buy for a tenner, don't see why it should be any different for a football top.

Is that really the cost of an infant strip-I'm shocked-the Monkey's been wanting one for ages, but that's far too dear.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 16:25:28
QUOTE(marxist_ton @ Jul 3 2008, 04:17 PM) [snapback]470918[/snapback]
Nah, those good soldiers just go over and kill innocent muslim civilians in the name of democracy...

Least the islamic fundamentalists have a point, unlike our government who are keeping the troops there because they have the power to do so.

One mans terrorist is anothers freedom fighter... Our government are the biggest terrorists of the lot of them.

That comes to me as something of a shock-is being guilty of Islam not enough justification in itself?


Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war,
With the cross of Jesus going on before.
Christ, the royal Master, leads against the foe;
Forward into battle see His banners go!



Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war,
With the cross of Jesus going on before.

At the sign of triumph Satan’s host doth flee;
On then, Christian soldiers, on to victory!
Hell’s foundations quiver at the shout of praise;
Brothers lift your voices, loud your anthems raise.


Like a mighty army moves the church of God;
Brothers, we are treading where the saints have trod.
We are not divided, all one body we,
One in hope and doctrine, one in charity.


What the saints established that I hold for true.
What the saints believèd, that I believe too.
Long as earth endureth, men the faith will hold,
Kingdoms, nations, empires, in destruction rolled.



Crowns and thrones may perish, kingdoms rise and wane,
But the church of Jesus constant will remain.
Gates of hell can never gainst that church prevail;
We have Christ’s own promise, and that cannot fail.


Onward then, ye people, join our happy throng,
Blend with ours your voices in the triumph song.
Glory, laud and honour unto Christ the King,
This through countless ages men and angels sing.


mortonjag 2008-07-03 16:30:12
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 3 2008, 04:25 PM) [snapback]470921[/snapback]
Although securing jobs is fantastic news. However, I disagree that these carriers should be built in the first place.

The money would have been better spent on front line troops. Give them a decent wage and the right equipment for their safety.

I'm confused Spurtle-I thought Bawheid was in charge now.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 16:34:38
QUOTE(Muz @ Jul 3 2008, 04:30 PM) [snapback]470929[/snapback]
Here, why arent you on ignore on anymore?



QUOTE(Tyrannous @ Jul 3 2008, 04:32 PM) [snapback]470932[/snapback]
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Thank you gentlemen-I just thought some folk would like a picture of Mrs Mortonjag on her motorbike.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 16:43:16
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 3 2008, 04:36 PM) [snapback]470942[/snapback]
I'm confused at what you mean blink.gif

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Is Bawheid not the boss of Scotland?
mortonjag 2008-07-03 16:45:05
QUOTE(Muz @ Jul 3 2008, 04:43 PM) [snapback]470950[/snapback]
What's happened to my MJ ignore?

I cant do it anymore- get it sorted please!

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mortonjag 2008-07-03 16:50:00
QUOTE(marxist_ton @ Jul 3 2008, 04:43 PM) [snapback]470951[/snapback]
Read Doco's post, then think about what you said and proceed to acknowledge that you are a fool.

I am indeed a fool-I have never denied that.

Where does Doco mention the price of the infant strip? The thread's about infants strips-the Monkey wants one, and the only price I've seen quoted is £40, so I'll ask again-is that the cost of an infant strip? blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-03 17:02:01
QUOTE(gmsc-doco-1874 @ Jul 3 2008, 04:55 PM) [snapback]470962[/snapback]
calm down people

to answer your question the kids strip is £35 don't no if you can get it in long sleeve or not which would be an extra fiver

the adults short sleeve is £40 extra fiver for long sleeve

Cheers-what do you get for the price-is it top, shorts and socks?
mortonjag 2008-07-03 17:06:16
QUOTE(marxist_ton @ Jul 3 2008, 04:47 PM) [snapback]470955[/snapback]
There was me thinking that bigotry was kept for the Glasgow lot only and that our wee club was exempt from that.

A sad day indeed sad.gif

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That was what you REALLY thought?
mortonjag 2008-07-03 17:09:29
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 3 2008, 04:27 PM) [snapback]470923[/snapback]
Aye, put me down please

I'd love you in Spurtle-you're a good chap really.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 17:12:09
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 3 2008, 04:50 PM) [snapback]470959[/snapback]
Defence is not devolved to Scotland....unfortunately. rolleyes.gif

Brown and Browne take all the credit for this one....

Is Bawheid happy about this?
mortonjag 2008-07-03 17:16:26
QUOTE(gmsc-doco-1874 @ Jul 3 2008, 05:03 PM) [snapback]470967[/snapback]
shorts are £12 i think
Socks are £10

Thank you-it really is quite expensive. If I buy it he'll have to accept it's a Christmas and Birthday present.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 17:22:32
QUOTE(marxist_ton @ Jul 3 2008, 05:09 PM) [snapback]470969[/snapback]
It was, but oh well I suppose. No need for you to cry, so wipe those wee tears away.

I hate seeing coffin dodgers crying, such a shame.

Aye very good-pull that fag oot yer avatar's glaiket mooth or he'll no be a coffin dodger for long.

And the tears have gone. thumbup2.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-03 17:32:27
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Jul 3 2008, 05:29 PM) [snapback]470985[/snapback]
MJ, if its a file you have saved on your computer click Browse and find it. Once you have found click upload. Dunno if thats how you do it but should work ph34r.gif

I've done that successfully before, but now it still wants a URL for the image!
mortonjag 2008-07-03 17:36:13
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 3 2008, 05:17 PM) [snapback]470977[/snapback]
Dunno... mellow.gif

Neither do I but I've a feeling well hear pretty soon. It's a bit of a blow for him though.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 17:47:56
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Jul 3 2008, 05:35 PM) [snapback]470991[/snapback]
Try uploading the picture to imageshack.us then copy the link from that.

TY! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-03 18:04:27
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jul 3 2008, 05:31 PM) [snapback]470987[/snapback]
The infant strip is top, shorts and socks £35

That's much more reasonable but still expensive. I think he deserves it though-he comes with me to every game-he is very proud of Morton.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 19:19:59
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 3 2008, 07:13 PM) [snapback]471024[/snapback]
i thought it was just you rolleyes.gif

(hard to envisage laugh.gif)

Oh dear, Alistair-there really is no end to your naughtiness. I hope CJ Ton understood. thumbdown.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-03 19:22:58
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jul 3 2008, 06:59 PM) [snapback]471016[/snapback]
not as big as your mouth !

much smaller than yours then darling! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-03 19:24:57
QUOTE(marxist_ton @ Jul 3 2008, 07:06 PM) [snapback]471019[/snapback]
I don't really care how long he's a coffin dodger for, he has made plenty music already smile.gif

And with yor life you've done... unsure.gif

Not a lot crying.gif crying.gif crying.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-03 19:30:25
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 3 2008, 07:18 PM) [snapback]471027[/snapback]
Really? How old are you? My endurance seems to improve with age. biggrin.gif

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I reckon I peaked last month, though I confess I find music affects my concentration. I sometimes put the telly on-for instance yesterday that kid from Dunblane was on the whole way through the foreplay.
mortonjag 2008-07-03 20:47:26
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jul 3 2008, 08:35 PM) [snapback]471079[/snapback]
I think the expression is 'common 5-8s', which was used in relation to the work pattern of the hoi polloi who worked in the shipbuilding yards on the Clyde many moons ago. I thought you knew it all too. rolleyes.gif

You think many things Smiffy-thinking is good for you. blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-04 06:51:09
QUOTE(leg-end @ Jul 3 2008, 08:12 PM) [snapback]471061[/snapback]
mortonjag,

would try the strip on him before ye buy it!

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He doesn't mind a slightly bad fit!
mortonjag 2008-07-04 06:54:08
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 3 2008, 11:16 PM) [snapback]471179[/snapback]
to be published after Sugar Rae moves on ?
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Is he buying Celtic?
mortonjag 2008-07-04 06:58:17
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 4 2008, 12:55 AM) [snapback]471214[/snapback]
... 9 days later.

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We have had an answer of sorts. AD is 'out of the country', so he clearly can't pop into Golden Casket with a big wad of notes.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 07:12:45
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jul 3 2008, 10:20 PM) [snapback]471137[/snapback]
Ah, you don't know your history...

"The nations, not so blest as thee,
Must in their turn, to tyrants fall,
Must in ,must in, must in their turn, to tyrants fall,
While thou shalt flourish, shalt flourish great and free,
The dread and envy of them all."

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RULE BRITTANIA

mortonjag 2008-07-04 07:15:44
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Jul 3 2008, 10:37 PM) [snapback]471152[/snapback]
I’d like to complain.

I went into the Jimmy Watt for something to eat and ordered a plate of cheesy chips. The moody guy behind the bar had a Union Flag draped over his shoulders and asked if I wanted salt on that. Momentarily distracted by a ploom of smoke over the river I said why not. To my horror, the plate of cheesy chips now cost £758 due to the surcharge of 50p per grain of salt. Before I could complain 4,500 guys came into the bar looking for John of John’s Joint fame who has apparently commissioned two massive vans to be completed by 2014 and 2016. Getting the f*ck out of the now mobbed bar I was randomly hooked in the face by two guys knocking lumps out of each other on the pavement outside. One of them was wearing tiny gold pants.

Have you written to the club?
mortonjag 2008-07-04 07:20:09
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 4 2008, 01:45 AM) [snapback]471222[/snapback]
I have always been suspicious of leadership qualities, particularly with regard to politics.
Call me a cynic if you will but I think most 'good' leaders are motivated by power-lust and self aggrandisement. Any societal benefit that may result from their time in power is usually a spin off, occurring by accident rather than by design. Of course it's too easy to illustrate my argument with examples of despotic leaders like Hitler, Stalin, Genghis Khan, Attila the fecking Hun etc. etc. But even in the so called democratic sphere I think my argument holds good.
Consider two, fairly recent examples of strong, assertively dynamic, hugely succesful, even (some would say) charismatic leaders : Margaret Thatcher and Douglas Rae
May good fortune save us from any more of their ilk.

Seconded.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 07:23:20
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 4 2008, 06:29 AM) [snapback]471231[/snapback]
...it's because he's so tediously predictable. As soon as anything remotely 'wacky' is in the news, be sure to expect a NewTon post about it. tongue.gif wink.gif

The tedium which affects the weans on this pubic massage board is BORING.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 07:46:10
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 3 2008, 10:46 PM) [snapback]471165[/snapback]
Here's one for the Muslims

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDThe black bitch may be concerned about the possibility of foreskin.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 07:47:58 Port-ton's little pink botty takes a lot of beating.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 07:53:28
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 3 2008, 09:01 PM) [snapback]471112[/snapback]
I agree completely. It's the same reason I don't read Asian Babes or Red Hot 40+ at work but instead stride in with a copy of the Guardian under my arm.

Not another amputee-the place is f*ckin' full of them.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 08:01:53
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Jul 3 2008, 10:16 PM) [snapback]471133[/snapback]
You didn't last long then blink.gif

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QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 4 2008, 06:08 AM) [snapback]471230[/snapback]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZTVYvFURcE

only one of it i could find on youtube, ignore the two arseholes. (incidentally thats exactly what the last bird i shagged said)

mad.gif Cheetah!

I was thinking it might be worth playing Hokey Cokey-for the amputees, I particularly like this verse--

You put your left leg in
Your left leg out
In, out, in, out,
shake it all about.
You do the Hokey Cokey and you turn around
That's what it's all about.


OH Hokey Cokey Cokey OH Hokey Cokey Cokey OH Hokey Cokey Cokey thumbup2.gif thumbup2.gif thumbup2.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-04 08:14:55
QUOTE(enigmaton @ Jul 4 2008, 07:54 AM) [snapback]471243[/snapback]
Only problem with this is that if you are a producer, actress or part of the lighting/sound crew in a feces eating porn trailer then the video that was posted earlier will be suitable for work.

Adding a list of suitable and unsutable occupations for each link would combat this problem.

Butcher.........NO
Baker............NO
s*** eating wh*re....YES

And so on.

Indeed, in cases of chronic constipation, many a GP has had to gently perform a manual removal of faeces-though I prefer ramming them up harder than ever.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 08:34:53
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 4 2008, 08:28 AM) [snapback]471247[/snapback]
the thought of my little pink botty made me want to spew, god knows what it'll do to anyone reading this thread.

wub.gif

You are too modest by far-what's happened to your selfish team?
mortonjag 2008-07-04 08:49:03 Our small number of female posters often puts the rest of us to shame. They'd have to have a sense of humour to come onto a male dominated pubic massage board in the first place, and they comport themselves with compassion, tolerance, and wit.

So to the forums pathetic 'wee girls', pompous knobs, frustrated cyber shaggers, power hungry imbeciles, and Port-ton, may I propose an Independence Day toast to 'THE LASSIES'.


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mortonjag 2008-07-04 09:20:39
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jul 4 2008, 09:12 AM) [snapback]471257[/snapback]
So would things be different if England was joined to France by a land link? The fact that the nations on the British Isles are on an island (or rather many islands) is irrelevant. You don't see Holland asking to be in a political union with Germany (I exclude the EU because that is a different kettle of fish and in any case is a much larger grouping with far more members). The main problem with the UK is that England constitutes more than 51% of it and so in voting terms will always get its way. The other constituents have no power of veto. That is a democratic deficiency in effect.

You may say we are all British as we come from the gepgraphical land area known as the British Isles. However, that is the same as saying to a Norwegian "You are Scandinavian. You should show primary loyalty to Scandinavia". I am a Scot and I feel absolutely no shred of loyalty whatsoever to the United Kingdom (nor to the monarchy for that matter). I don't hate anyone or any other nation, but I do strongly disagree with the ridiculous notion that we should be ruled from a foreign country, which is what England is, albeit a country with which we share some elements of language and culture, and to suggest that somehow we Scots are incapable of running our own nation fully is pathetic and beneath contempt. I'd agree that if Labour was in power, that might be true as they appear to be lacking in any intelligence or ability, but the current SNP government while not perfect has done a very good job so far and has shown us all how we could have it so much better if the fearties would just get themselves a spine.

Anyway to get back to the original topic, hard luck Andy, and well done for admitting that the better player won on this occasion.

Staying on the original topic that sounds like typical Scots' paranoia!


HARD LUCK! blink.gif


He was humped rid raw by a Spanish kid-or WAIT-maybe he was a Basquet case like superbrat's Mummy. angel.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-04 09:52:04
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jul 4 2008, 09:35 AM) [snapback]471265[/snapback]
Mohandas Karamchand may be considered as a counter to this argument. Plus, he also made the flip-flop fashionable.

“When I despair, I remember that all through history the ways of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants, and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it--always.”

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mortonjag 2008-07-04 09:54:46
QUOTE(rex manning @ Jul 4 2008, 09:46 AM) [snapback]471270[/snapback]
That's it. It's over.

Any tips on how to quit drinking?

Ask midTONs.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 09:59:09
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 4 2008, 09:42 AM) [snapback]471269[/snapback]
laugh.gif i started to write that in my post, then i realised what a complete perve i sounded like watching 10 videos in one day.

now you're a perve with me i don't feel bad admitting it! tongue.gif

although to be fair, most of that 10 are spent trying to find a good video as once you click play there is no going back sad.gif

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You need to attend a sex therapist!
mortonjag 2008-07-04 10:29:36
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jul 4 2008, 10:27 AM) [snapback]471300[/snapback]
why cant we add attachments to our posts? or can we and im just being a mongo unsure.gif

I asked the same question-seems you have to use imageshack or photobucket or whatever which seems daft!
mortonjag 2008-07-04 10:32:39 The monkey and Fing are having a swingers party right here from ayto clok tonight-all invited.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 11:30:17
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 4 2008, 10:33 AM) [snapback]471308[/snapback]
for a second i thought this thread was in the private forum and after seeing the title i thought we'd got the board shut down after less than a week.

Infants' trip?
mortonjag 2008-07-04 11:37:30
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 4 2008, 10:58 AM) [snapback]471320[/snapback]
its a great idea we could get our nearest station renamed Cappielow tongue.gif

Fort Matilda is already named after the club.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 11:44:55
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 4 2008, 11:02 AM) [snapback]471323[/snapback]
number 2 in the world, 4 times french open champion not bad for a kid rolleyes.gif

Not bad indeed for a Spanish kid who's less than eleven months older than the Scottish one.

QUOTE(RadolfZitler @ Jul 4 2008, 11:10 AM) [snapback]471327[/snapback]
Good post there Davie well 95% of it.

The snobbery is unbelievable.

What gets me is the way Murray is portrayed as being anti-English all because he did not want England to win at football. How many people in Scotland want England to win or support them? Why should he or any other Scot, we support Scotland.

I would like to know if Murray openly said he was Scottish to the entire media what their answer would be for not supporting him? Anti-Scottish?

He is being used as a political tool that’s for sure every opportunity they have they throw a union flag at him I actually feel a bit sorry for him. I also highlighted Dunblane above because I remember the comments made on his website a while back saying he should have died in the Dunblane massacre, pretty sick that.

He became a British Bulldog and hero and once Nadal chewed him up and spat him out he once again became a ginger Scottish t***.

....a much wealthier ginger Scottish t***!


Being used, or using? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-04 11:48:31
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 4 2008, 11:26 AM) [snapback]471336[/snapback]
I don't know if anyone seen QT extra that was on after it. The text comments were nothing but racist. All aimed at Gordon Brown because he is a Scot (sic).

And comments made about Scots in general. If you had substituted Scots for black or Asian the programme would have been pulled of air.

Guess a lot of daft Inglish c*nts put their munny on the kid from Dunblane! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-04 11:55:31
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 4 2008, 11:33 AM) [snapback]471339[/snapback]
i look forward to it smile.gif despite not having a clue about who he is apart from very old championship managers when he was at liverpool.

Jon Newby (born November 28, 1978 in Warrington) is an English footballer, currently without a club.
Career

A striker, known for his lightning pace, he began his career with Liverpool, and was involved in their FA Youth Cup win of 1996. He made 4 appearances for Liverpool, and was loaned out to Carlisle United (December 1999), Crewe Alexandra (March 2000), Sheffield United (August 2000), and Bury (February 2001). This final loan move was made permanent, with Bury getting him on a free transfer on March 20th, 2001. In summer 2003 he moved on to Huddersfield, but the move was not a success, and following a loan spell at York City, he returned to Bury a year later. He had a loan spell with Kidderminster Harriers during the 2005/06 season, but has since returned to Gigg Lane. "Newbs" as he is affectionately known by the Gigg Lane fans was released in May 2006 after failing to break his way back into the first team. He subsequently joined Wrexham for a short spell before leaving the club in December 2006. He joined Southport the following month[1] but was released in May after the club were relegated from the Conference National. Newby signed for Morecambe after a trial period in August 2007.

His First Professional Hat-Trick came against Rotherham United on 29 March 2008, scoring all three goals in the first half and helped Morecambe to a 5-1 Victory in a surprising good season for the club. After a great season at Morecambe where he finished joint top scorer he was released by manager Sammy Mclroy to the fans dismay.



Greacen's genitals becomes NEWBS BOOBS
mortonjag 2008-07-04 12:07:33
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 4 2008, 12:00 PM) [snapback]471346[/snapback]
so it seems Jenkins is out til a couple of weeks into the season, thats three first team players injured and we haven't even begun pre-season yet. This smaller, with more quality squad idea could turn out to be a bad move.

Nobody specifically defined what sort of quality we'd get! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-04 12:13:33
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jul 4 2008, 12:10 PM) [snapback]471349[/snapback]
A guy who's 30 who's spent the best part of his career in reserves and trawling around low league clubs without much success. Sounds promising.

He's got 'lightning fast' reflexes-maybe he's our new goalie.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 13:23:48
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 4 2008, 01:12 PM) [snapback]471392[/snapback]
meant for someone else but not for me sad.gif

Love was out to get me blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-04 13:28:50 It's another salary that'll have to be paid if he comes-FFS another effin striker and we've one goalie, nae full backs and nae wingers! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-04 13:38:13
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jul 4 2008, 12:42 PM) [snapback]471365[/snapback]
Is the squad any smaller than the last few years considering last years additions were less than successful . Seem to remember starting last season with a few injuries and having our best spell of the season .
The injuries to Harding , Greacan and Jenkins have stemmed from last season rather than any fresh problem . Obviously the hope was that the injuries would have healed with rest rather than going under the knife in some cases .
I agree that it is a risky strategy and leaves no room for errors in the signing of new players . It highlighted JM's ineptitude last season and DDFR's for that matter .
It also makes light of the financial restraints and the need for outside investment for the club .

IF we are REALLY going to progress.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 13:40:33
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jul 4 2008, 12:47 PM) [snapback]471372[/snapback]
Dundee to win league

Clyde + Livi for playoffs

Finish 5th


There the prophet Weegie has spoken so all other bets are now null and void biggrin.gif

Copy cat! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-04 13:43:45
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 4 2008, 01:31 PM) [snapback]471396[/snapback]
thats the way it seemed, Dissapointment (and your man boobs) haunted all my dreams.

Then you saw my face!
mortonjag 2008-07-04 13:48:39
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 4 2008, 01:43 PM) [snapback]471400[/snapback]
I've rammed many a sheep in the s***ter!

Do you like mountain goats?
mortonjag 2008-07-04 13:50:50
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Jul 4 2008, 12:27 PM) [snapback]471359[/snapback]
Question Time went through me like a bad curry last night, which was a bit unfortunate, because I'd eaten a bad curry hours before it! One politician in particular made me feel queasier. David Cairns is such a sycophantic Brownite, and an absolute weapon to boot! Although I'm not a big fan of the Nats, I thought Nicola Sturgeon spoke very well and was the most impressive of the four politicians on the panel.

The original poster puts the boot into David Mitchell here, but I thought he spoke the most sense. His responses were intelligent, measured and had no agenda, just honest opinions as far as I remember. His comments about unfair opinion on Glasgow and Scotland were spot on, nothing ill-informed there. Hearing his thoughts was light relief from the Tories and the SNP squabbling with Labour!

Bawheid's lot always talk a good game.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 13:56:24
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Jul 4 2008, 01:53 PM) [snapback]471406[/snapback]
not sure I understand mate?

Don't even try Paddy!
mortonjag 2008-07-04 14:07:34
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jul 4 2008, 01:53 PM) [snapback]471408[/snapback]
Even if the share issue is a roaring success and we raise enough to upgrade the stadium there will still be a gulf in terms of playing staff .
If we are not going to get a fresh injection of real capital we at least need the performance of the corporate division to be dynamic in raising extra monies .

= Shoogly tae get aff his erse an 'dae sumpin'
mortonjag 2008-07-04 14:19:52 Following a vote at The Scottish Football League Special General Meeting held at Hampden Park today, Annan Athletic F.C. have been admitted to The Scottish Football League.

Annan Athletic admitted to SFL was posted by GMFC.
To discuss any of its subject matter further please contact Greenock Morton Football Club
mortonjag 2008-07-04 14:32:59
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 4 2008, 02:24 PM) [snapback]471419[/snapback]
Granted it may be hyperbole, but it's a s*** use of hyperbole. laugh.gif

Must do better. See me.



That's a bananagramme of Herby Pole
mortonjag 2008-07-04 14:39:06
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jul 3 2008, 10:25 PM) [snapback]471141[/snapback]
Aye, heading right to your house rolleyes.gif

Bothy.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 15:20:38
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jul 4 2008, 03:04 PM) [snapback]471440[/snapback]
''Hello, is that Greenock Morton fitba club ? i'd like to further discuss with you Annan Athletic's admission to the Scottish League'' unsure.gif

Are you really up for this?
mortonjag 2008-07-04 15:23:27
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 4 2008, 02:57 PM) [snapback]471434[/snapback]
So when the fek do you get in to this place then ???

Hopefully soon Spurtle-I have a big secret to tell you! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-04 16:02:01
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jul 4 2008, 03:42 PM) [snapback]471463[/snapback]
NewbysBewbys it would be.

laugh.gif

I still prefer Wakey's Walloper
mortonjag 2008-07-04 16:04:57
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 4 2008, 04:01 PM) [snapback]471475[/snapback]
Looks like I'm banned because I'm a nationalist MJ. sad.gif

Don't be a silly Billy Hamish-Mortonjag's a nationalist!

BTW that's not the secret. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-04 16:09:51
SHOOGLY SOOKS SOOR PLOOMS
mortonjag 2008-07-04 16:11:56 Mye dad sez ure an impositawr


(sined Munx)
mortonjag 2008-07-04 16:15:07
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 4 2008, 04:06 PM) [snapback]471481[/snapback]
Anno, but they like your brand of nationalism. They don't like mine.... rolleyes.gif

Now, now-don't let paranoia cloud your vision! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-04 16:25:53
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Jul 4 2008, 03:01 PM) [snapback]471437[/snapback]
You might be a one arm manny tongue.gif

ANOTHER effin amputee-soon we normal folk won't have a leg to stand on.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 16:31:29
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jul 4 2008, 02:51 PM) [snapback]471428[/snapback]
Fixed it now.

TY-ya POUFFE
mortonjag 2008-07-04 16:37:27
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jul 4 2008, 04:17 PM) [snapback]471490[/snapback]
LOL, that's a great post smile.gif
For what it's worth, I think topics should be clearly labelled if they have offensive stuff in them.

I didn't think the point of this new forum was to be a porn messageboard. Personally, and strike me if you want, I think pornography has no place on a Morton website - there's plenty of other websites for that.

Certainly funny stuff or unusual stuff I can see being posted, like the stripper with the wobbly wardrobe, or something that's in poor taste, but funny/unusual?

However, random vag? Hmmm. Do we want that on here? What's the point?

I see nothing wrong with the odd pic of a fine looking filly, softcore tits and ass, but I for one am certainly uncomfy with anything harder, pardon the expression, and dunno if I really want involved in that.

A lot of people primarily look at the site in work too.
Personally, I don't think Midtons has been happy with the new forum since day one, if you look at his posts in here, and is just trying to prove a point, eventually leading to it either being wound up, or a strict no-porn rule, therefore leaving it clear for him to lobby to allow minors in, ie Deego. We aint stupid smile.gif

I thought the jobbies looked quite soft-especially the one in the glass.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 17:03:20
QUOTE(Muz @ Jul 4 2008, 04:52 PM) [snapback]471501[/snapback]
Had a bottle last night after me tea, lovely. Another tonight with dinner and probs the same tomorrow.

It was on the news yesterday that Red Wine keeps you young- now I know where I get it from smile.gif

Brasso keeps you young and sparkling.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 17:57:10
QUOTE(enigmaton @ Jul 4 2008, 05:25 PM) [snapback]471516[/snapback]
They should rename it Junkie Central rolleyes.gif

Is it a mainline station?
mortonjag 2008-07-04 17:59:35
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 4 2008, 05:32 PM) [snapback]471517[/snapback]
Good counter Mr Todd, although the Mahatma, like his disciple MLK, could not be classed as a careerist politician.
May good fortune grant us more of their ilk.

Do you want them outnumbering the cowboys Mr Edwards?
mortonjag 2008-07-04 18:04:22
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 4 2008, 05:19 PM) [snapback]471510[/snapback]
Wrong, wrong, wrong! But I laughed.

innumerate pouffe
mortonjag 2008-07-04 18:06:07
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 4 2008, 05:18 PM) [snapback]471508[/snapback]
f*** this, some random c***'s getting banned.

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mortonjag 2008-07-04 18:09:11
QUOTE(bazooka @ Jul 4 2008, 05:21 PM) [snapback]471514[/snapback]
When I'm wearing this. Breathe - Pink Floyd

Wearing WHAT?

SHOOGLY-my God Sir you ARE full of surprises.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 18:11:14
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Jul 4 2008, 03:19 PM) [snapback]471449[/snapback]
Having all four limbs.
Thankyou blush.gif

Three would be fine.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 18:23:18 I was flung into this forum by the other Mods-and who could blame them, but as a relatively old man, I have to confess I don't access porn sites (my partner's fixed some programme so I can't actually). He can be a real turd at times!

I DO have a good idea of the difference between hard core and soft porn, but folk have been getting upset at simple physiological graphics. Doing a jobby is not pornographic-FACT.

Now this IS a serious question-I don't want any piss taking or cheek-we're just about to enter a Friday evening and some of our posters may be partaking of firewater and other substances.

For example I have this wee home video of my Granny Smith being taken up the arse by the school janitor dressed as a primary two boy-it was entirely voluntary I assure you-and then there's the one of myself humping a dead hedgehog with five naked women with ENORMOUS boobs singing hymns in the background-two of them are black as well.

So-some guidance please.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 18:31:57
QUOTE(enigmaton @ Jul 4 2008, 06:24 PM) [snapback]471535[/snapback]
Sorry this reply was very vain rolleyes.gif

Don't let him needle you.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 18:34:12
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 4 2008, 06:18 PM) [snapback]471531[/snapback]
I have reservations.

Do they have places tepee?
mortonjag 2008-07-04 19:07:39
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jul 4 2008, 06:29 PM) [snapback]471536[/snapback]
As long as they are s***ting on each other, it should be ok.

Well Granny Smith was perpetually constipated before I killed her-so we're safe there, and the hedgehog was already dead. The Janny kept on his short trousers (he just opened the flies) so again I think we're covered. As for the choir girls with the gargantuan jugs-you can't really see much for tit-so that'll be kocher too.

QUOTE(enigmaton @ Jul 4 2008, 06:41 PM) [snapback]471551[/snapback]
"Thy Hedgehog hath died my Lord
Raise him up and eternal life to all.
Thy Mortonjag rapes his corpse
God his willy is small"

How can you RAPE a corpse-I've never once had a knock back.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 19:17:59
QUOTE(enigmaton @ Jul 4 2008, 06:59 PM) [snapback]471557[/snapback]
Why did the girl fall off the swing?
Because she had no arms.

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Was she a soldier?
mortonjag 2008-07-04 19:48:06
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 4 2008, 07:43 PM) [snapback]471565[/snapback]
He was certainly the best journalist that ever worked for the BBC. More importantly, he was probably the best TV journalist the world has seen to date.



Indeed!


Sir Charles Cornelius Wheeler CMG (born Selwyn Charles Cornelius-Wheeler on March 15, 1923,[1] died on July 4, 2008)[2] was a British journalist and broadcaster. Having joined the BBC in 1947, he became the corporation's longest serving foreign correspondent, serving in the role until his death. Wheeler also had spells as presenter of several BBC current affairs television programmes including Newsnight and Panorama.



Early life

Wheeler was born in Bremen, Germany in 1923.[3] Educated at Cranbrook School in Kent, his first job was as an errand boy at the Daily Sketch newspaper at the age of 17.[4] He enlisted in the Royal Marines in 1942[2] and later participated in the Normandy Landings as part of a secret naval intelligence unit.[5]

Career

Wheeler's long career involved postings to Berlin, Delhi and Washington, D.C. In the later years of his career he was the American correspondent of Newsnight. He was the first presenter of BBC World's Dateline London discussion programme. He remained active in his later years as a presenter of documentary series on Radio 4.

He was appointed a CMG in 2001, and was knighted in the 2006 Birthday Honours, for services to broadcasting and journalism overseas. Wheeler was married to Dip Singh, of Sikh Indian descent, whose daughters are the barrister Marina Wheeler, the wife of the Mayor of London Boris Johnson and Shirin Wheeler, the BBC's Brussels correspondent.[6]

In June 2006 Charles Wheeler announced he had discovered that a painting by Alessandro Allori of Eleonora of Toledo, the wife of Cosimo de Medici, which had been given to him in Berlin as a wedding present in 1952, had been looted during World War II. Via the Commission for Looted Art in Europe it was returned to its legitimate owner, the Gemäldegalerie of Berlin from whose possession it had been absent since 1944.[7]

Wheeler died of lung cancer on 4 July 2008.[2]
mortonjag 2008-07-04 19:50:32
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 4 2008, 07:46 PM) [snapback]471566[/snapback]
I wonder how Black and Asian Scots feel.

Scottish?
mortonjag 2008-07-04 20:04:19
QUOTE(enigmaton @ Jul 4 2008, 07:25 PM) [snapback]471563[/snapback]
Don't you feel a bit of a p***k when hedgehog humping?

I only shag genetically bald hedgehogs-I have a lifelong interest in genetic engineering and am currently working on a frog with an anus the size of a fifty pence piece, but perfectly round.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 20:11:19
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jul 4 2008, 07:56 PM) [snapback]471571[/snapback]
Siggy thumbup2.gif

I find this all a bit disrespectful to betty and the chook of embra-are you suggesting that her Majesty is a loose woman?
mortonjag 2008-07-04 20:34:57
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 4 2008, 08:00 PM) [snapback]471573[/snapback]
I'm sure they do at that.

Indeed, and without an unhealthy and ingrained paranoia about thae effin Inglish.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 20:38:23
QUOTE(mortonboi @ Jul 4 2008, 08:30 PM) [snapback]471578[/snapback]
do you thing it might be on the website later on the night

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mortonjag 2008-07-04 20:47:26
QUOTE(mortonboi @ Jul 4 2008, 08:44 PM) [snapback]471583[/snapback]
guess ats a naw

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mortonjag 2008-07-04 20:50:54 I had a friend who worked offshore at the time. I remember talking to him some time later, and he commented that you could tell the impact it had on the country because the usual 'sick' jokes didn't start appearing until a couple of months after the incident.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 20:58:01
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jul 4 2008, 06:48 PM) [snapback]471554[/snapback]
Not at all. You could definately be a c***. biggrin.gif

cr*b?
mortonjag 2008-07-04 21:12:00
QUOTE(mortonboi @ Jul 4 2008, 09:00 PM) [snapback]471588[/snapback]
its a load of crap till he is officially a morton player!!!

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mortonjag 2008-07-04 21:17:27
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 4 2008, 08:57 PM) [snapback]471586[/snapback]
no, mortonjag, this thread is just for you

Really Alistair-the thread was actually dedicated to our lady posters-I'm sure they will have something sensible to say when they've given due consideration to the matter-an example you'd do well to follow.

I'm monkey sitting BTW-what are you up to-not the same old w**k Baileys w**k routine, I hope!
mortonjag 2008-07-04 21:21:50
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Jul 4 2008, 09:17 PM) [snapback]471594[/snapback]
MJ thats an interesting comment you made there about the jokes. You wonder though had mobile phones been as widespread 2o years ago as they were today would the jokes been out much quicker? However I seem to recall when London was bombed a couple of years ago and Glasgow last year it took a while.

They probably would, but there was definitely a period of frozen shock. Jim was a great guy-an engineer who used to have to fly out by chopper at a moment's notice in the worst of weathers. Sadly died of cancer in his mid forties.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 21:27:09
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jul 4 2008, 06:44 PM) [snapback]471552[/snapback]
They don't need a comb? unsure.gif

.....unless they're VERY vain!
mortonjag 2008-07-04 21:33:56
QUOTE(18-deano-ehm-74 @ Jul 4 2008, 09:27 PM) [snapback]471596[/snapback]
But then Doogie could claim it was a senior moment so he didn't mean it tongue.gif

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Of course he could-so that'll be 1,789 senior moments last season!
mortonjag 2008-07-04 21:37:33
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 4 2008, 09:34 PM) [snapback]471602[/snapback]
In fact DDF did apologise for what he said in the aftermath of the McInally resignation.

McLaughlin is an absolute dick who probably can't spell apologise.

I'm not disputing that but----


LINK?
mortonjag 2008-07-04 21:42:36
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 4 2008, 09:33 PM) [snapback]471600[/snapback]
is that what you're doing? ohmy.gif

What a silly question-are you losing those youthful marbles?

I'm monkey sitting-it's very pleasant-we've been chatting for ages about what's wrong at the club and how it could be remedied. The Monkey favours conciliation, while Fing has other ideas.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 21:45:55
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 4 2008, 09:30 PM) [snapback]471598[/snapback]
Simply not true but if there is to be any point to this forum then you should not need to post warnings every time you post something that might not be work safe, the warning should be when you enter the forum that you do so at your own risk. Ive explained why warnings wont work but some people just don't want to listen, like I said to Boozie earlier, what you worried about, in case you have nothing to pass the time at work. I'll post what I want when I want and no c*** will stop me unless they ban me but that would go completely against the grain of which the forum was opened for.

But you DID endorse pictures of jobbies.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 21:51:03
QUOTE(mortonboi @ Jul 4 2008, 09:36 PM) [snapback]471603[/snapback]
wit

wit whit?
mortonjag 2008-07-04 21:57:12
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 4 2008, 09:52 PM) [snapback]471611[/snapback]
Was it not in a match programme? Around a month after the fact. I'm not at home so I can't go through my programmes otherwise I would.

Edit: It's here - helpfully labled "APOLOGY" - http://www.gmfc.net/chairman/news-view.asp?id=38

I have a vague recollection that he attempted some kind of retraction by suggesting that he had not been aiming at ALL the fans!
mortonjag 2008-07-04 21:59:18
QUOTE(mortonboi @ Jul 4 2008, 09:55 PM) [snapback]471612[/snapback]
wits em words mean

Ask Chrissiboi-I'm SURE I understood!
mortonjag 2008-07-04 22:13:46
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Jul 4 2008, 10:08 PM) [snapback]471622[/snapback]
Ditto smile.gif
Whit?????? mad.gif
Can you spank a monkey? tongue.gif

Indeed-but I may not! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-04 22:16:24
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 4 2008, 10:01 PM) [snapback]471619[/snapback]
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I STILL cannot post pictures of us together darling-I sense a conspiracy.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 22:21:41
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jul 4 2008, 09:17 PM) [snapback]471593[/snapback]
Sad stuff. I wonder what he thought of the modern crop of corporate fluffers that pass for TV journalists these days.



QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 4 2008, 10:03 PM) [snapback]471620[/snapback]
Compare the current crop of diddies with him and you see why the Beeb's in s***e.



QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 4 2008, 10:11 PM) [snapback]471625[/snapback]
A giant amongst pygmies is an appropriate comparison.

Gentlemen, it has not escaped my attention that you are all of a certain age.

Live and let live-accept mediocrity-there is no point in objection to the new cyber age of uneducated buffoonery and shagging/bribing ones way to the 'top'.

Can it be that it was all so simple then?
mortonjag 2008-07-04 22:24:25
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 4 2008, 10:07 PM) [snapback]471621[/snapback]
Yes, there was no small measure of mitigation, and you can most certainly debate its value, yet it was an apology tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-04 22:27:19
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 4 2008, 09:48 PM) [snapback]471609[/snapback]
I thought pictures of s*** complemented this forum well.


If you're calling me a jobby-consider yourself a jobby pouffe.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 22:30:24
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 4 2008, 10:01 PM) [snapback]471618[/snapback]
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i set them up for you and you know 'em out the park. what a team!

You are a winsome, smart, and devious young man.

Answer the question-are you partial to mountain goats-cos if you are-we're finished.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 22:34:06
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jul 4 2008, 10:25 PM) [snapback]471630[/snapback]
davie, u really
, really want to lighten up a bit mate.... you only agree when someone posts exactly what u want to hear. we'd be here forever and a day if that was to be the case. i dare say u and i could be lumped into a very loose coalition but personally i'd be petiioning to get u launched cos yer a pompous arse. smile.gif there's more than one way to skin a cat. ya t***. wink.gif
???? dont know why i quoted this cos its bunkum whichever way u look at it

it seems it's small minded to be scottish but absolutely fair game if yer parochialism extends to the british state.....make yer minds up u unionist c***s eh???? eu bananas etc etc etc

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mortonjag 2008-07-04 22:49:52
QUOTE(plookheid @ Jul 4 2008, 10:47 PM) [snapback]471641[/snapback]
I've been a member for ages and I'm also a lady-i like mortonjag -he makes good points and this is an example

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mortonjag 2008-07-04 22:52:56
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 4 2008, 10:45 PM) [snapback]471640[/snapback]
The Dream - Coralling of You

POUFFE CELEBRE
mortonjag 2008-07-04 22:56:26
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 4 2008, 10:53 PM) [snapback]471645[/snapback]
i think my incontinence knickers are about to burst laugh.gif

Dream on my friend-they are about to explode. ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-04 22:59:21
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 4 2008, 10:56 PM) [snapback]471649[/snapback]
there ye go

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mortonjag 2008-07-04 23:03:37
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jul 4 2008, 10:55 PM) [snapback]471647[/snapback]
Two old boys next to each other in the Intesive Care Unit....

First old boy lifts his oxygen mask and says..

'Wullie'

Second only boy lifts his oxygen mask and says..

'Paddy'

First boy lifts his oxygen mask and says..

'Glasgow'

Second boy lifts his oxygen mask and says..

'Dublin'

First boy lifts his oxygen mask and says..

'Cancer'

Second boy lifts his oxygen mask and says..

'Scorpio'

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mortonjag 2008-07-04 23:06:26 25/ Admission should be free to all except huffy dwarves and bouncersprogs.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 23:10:00
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Jul 4 2008, 11:01 PM) [snapback]471654[/snapback]
now Im A Believer

Not a trace of doubt in my mind!
mortonjag 2008-07-04 23:12:55
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 4 2008, 10:59 PM) [snapback]471653[/snapback]
mortonjag said "accept mediocrity"

rotflmfao

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Saves you shagging the parrot!
mortonjag 2008-07-04 23:20:20
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 4 2008, 11:12 PM) [snapback]471660[/snapback]
sorry, doesn't mcscan

Have another Baileys darling-a big one this time!
mortonjag 2008-07-04 23:24:50
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 4 2008, 11:17 PM) [snapback]471664[/snapback]
accept mediocrity
accept mediocrity
accept mediocrity
accept mediocrity
accept mediocrity

as you see, it didn't tongue.gif

That was you-fool-yer parrot's an ex-parrot and the Polis ken.

No comment-no comment-no comment -no comm...........TTHUDDDDDD
mortonjag 2008-07-04 23:38:20
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 4 2008, 11:29 PM) [snapback]471672[/snapback]
I'll accept chaos before mediocrity. One's age has got feck all to do with anything, rather one's state of mind is everything. And it was never simple then, just as it isn't now. There were, and always will be those who would/will shag/bribe/cheat their way to the top. Nothing new under the Sun and blah fecking blah and all that. What's the point? The answer? I don't know.... and I don't believe anybody who says that they do know.

CUE-Alistair wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-04 23:43:49
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 4 2008, 11:26 PM) [snapback]471670[/snapback]
is that what you call it, big boy? :titter:

LOOK you-I resent that 'big boy' stuff-I've been peacefully babysitting the monkey all night, and all you've given us is grief-from your sadly remote and God forsaken hole near Wombledung. You're a jobby and a POUFFE, but mostly a POUFFE.
mortonjag 2008-07-04 23:49:25
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 4 2008, 11:45 PM) [snapback]471682[/snapback]
Go easy on the pancakes then, ya fat b*****d. laugh.gif

I hadn't a clue about the obesity.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 07:46:51 From the Herald

The British public overwhelmingly expects violent crime to get worse over the next year and has little faith in politicians to halt it, according to a new poll.

More than eight-out-of-10 (83%) people questioned said they had become more concerned about knife crime over the past 12 months and a similar number (82%) said they expected violent crime to increase over the next year.

The poll, by ComRes for BBC2's The Daily Politics show, was published as it was revealed the 18th teenager to meet a violent death in London this year had called out for his mother shortly after being stabbed and beaten.
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Shakilus Townsend, 16, was attacked by a gang just after 2pm on Thursday in south-east London.

A witness said he had asked for his mother and cried "I don't want to die" as he lay bleeding in the street. He died in St George's Hospital, Tooting, just after midnight on the day he was stabbed.

The poll also came as detectives revealed the killer of two French students who were bound, gagged and stabbed to death in a bedsit in south London last Sunday may have died for the sake of two handheld games consoles, which were stolen.

Laurent Bonomo and Gabriel Ferez, both 23, were found with more than 240 stab wounds.

The savage murder of the bio-chemistry students came just over a month after Glasgow was stunned by the murders of soft drinks sales consultant Moira Jones, 40, originally from England, and trainee restaurant manageress Eleni Pachou, 25, from Greece.

Meanwhile, police are hunting three black teenagers who ambushed Shakilus, known as Shaki to his friends, before they stabbed him in the chest and beat his head.

The teenager was attacked by a masked gang armed with knives and baseball bats in Thornton Heath, south London, and the youths had pulled up their hoods and covered their faces in bandanas.

Police also want to trace a black girl, in her mid-teens and wearing a floral dress, who stood back with up to eight others and watched the sickening attack. Officers have recovered two knives, one of which was described by a witness as 18-inches long.

The detective leading the investigation said it was "another senseless incident in which a young life has been taken away by a knife".

Residents spoke yesterday of how they desperately tried to save Shakilus as blood poured from his chest. Dee Bamina, 35, attempted to stem the bleeding with a bath towel after another neighbour took him into the communal doorway of her block of flats.

She said: "I think a group of boys must have been after the boy. All I heard was them saying, Get him from the other side'. I tried to ask his name and tell him to calm down and lie down because he was trying to get up and go."

She said the boy was saying "where's my mum, I want my mum".

The 16-year-old told her he did not know his attackers.

Detective Chief Inspector Cliff Lyons, who is heading the inquiry, said the attackers were not believed to be from the area because they ran off in different directions looking for a way to escape.

Witness Richard Higgins, 17, said: "I thought he had tripped at first then I saw the knife. It was a big kitchen knife, maybe 18 inches.

"He had stab wounds on his stomach and one big, long wound on his chest."

A 17-year-old boy who lives near where Shakilus was killed said stabbings were common.

"If he hadn't died, no one would have cared about this, it would have just been another stabbing," he said.

"How are the police or the government going to be able to sort this out if we as kids don't know why this sort of stuff's going on?"

The attack on Shakilus came as three teenagers appeared in court in the north of the city accused of stabbing 16-year-old Ben Kinsella to death last weekend.

In separate incidents, Tunisian Hamouda Bessaad, 34, was stabbed to death in Old Kent Road on Monday, while Dee Willis, 28, died after a knife attack in Peckham the following day.

Metropolitan Police Deputy Commissioner Paul Stephenson is heading up a 75-man taskforce dedicated to targeting gang members.

He said tackling knife crime was the force's "number one priority
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The solution is there and it's cheap and effective-birch first offenders. It's little pink botty time folks.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 07:57:35
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Jul 5 2008, 12:08 AM) [snapback]471701[/snapback]
I think it's a poor reflection of this board that our new signing has yet to be wished all the best on cyberspace!

Best of luck in a Morton jersey, Jon. I hope we see a few goals from you this season!

Please don't judge this guy before you have seen him at least half a dozen times. I can imagine the usual suspects will be on here straight away saying he's the "worst signing ever" after only getting two goals on his debut.

If we can get the goalkeeper sorted then I would be happy that we have the minimum number of players. A couple more wouldn't go amiss, but I now feel we have reasonable strength in depth for next season, though I would be concerned if either McAlister or Finlayson got injured because we don't really have a replacement who would put in the same work as either of those two players.

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QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jul 5 2008, 12:14 AM) [snapback]471707[/snapback]
He signed for Morton earlier today. cool.gif

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QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 5 2008, 12:15 AM) [snapback]471709[/snapback]
why would we wish someone who hasn't signed for us yet all the best? i've been f***ed over by too many players i've gave my heart to only for them to sign for another team at the last minute, i couldn't handle it again so until he's signed he's just another rumour to me, a nobody.


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QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 5 2008, 12:21 AM) [snapback]471715[/snapback]
i could never stomach chocolate milk - chocolte or milk, but not chocolate milk


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QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jul 5 2008, 12:24 AM) [snapback]471718[/snapback]
Ye of little faith! You'll just need to take my word for it for the moment. rolleyes.gif

Why should the common 5/8ths accept a word you say Smiffy-are you Alistair Donald in Oz and half a day ahead of us?

QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 5 2008, 12:32 AM) [snapback]471723[/snapback]
ohmy.gif you need to have a word with your stomach, tell it to stop being such a p***y! you're missing out.

Alistair's stomach mirrors his other feline facets
mortonjag 2008-07-05 08:03:43 Port-ton, if you're going to Threave
You'll see what 'those boys' can achieve
Our quality squad's
Been funded by God
Or so some would have us believe
mortonjag 2008-07-05 08:07:23 I thought love was more or less a given thing.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 08:10:02 I'm very positive about the coming season and predict we'll finish 5th.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 08:18:11
QUOTE(El gofer @ Jul 5 2008, 04:00 AM) [snapback]471753[/snapback]
Sires, for caws and forza are always sires in my eyes...
good call you couple a steamers.....!!! I toast you both!!!



'Toast'-I'll f*ckin' barbecue them if I get my hands on the cheeky wee knobs.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 08:22:45
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 5 2008, 12:09 AM) [snapback]471702[/snapback]
I would love to have hair like Randy's (the guy on the right.)

Rub dripping all over your chest at night after you've removed your bra.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 08:26:15
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 4 2008, 11:53 PM) [snapback]471692[/snapback]
Alistair who?

Alistair Trumpet
mortonjag 2008-07-05 08:30:32
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Jul 5 2008, 08:00 AM) [snapback]471776[/snapback]
On The Wright Stuff yesterday they touched on the subject. Wright told a story about when he was on holiday in Dubai. He left his camera in a bar and when he remembered where it was he returned to the bar to see if it was still there. It hadn't moved an inch. He attributed this to the harsh regime in the country and posed the question "Did we really want to live in a crime free society when the punishments would be regarded by some westerners as extreme?" YES!!!!

Not so extreme as the escalating violence on our streets!

How long will it be before we see vigilantes doing what politicians are afraid to mention.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 08:38:05
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 4 2008, 11:25 PM) [snapback]471669[/snapback]
i sure do! once im in the mood they never stand a chance, like lambs to the slaughter.

You horny, capricious little toad-but I still love you. wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-05 08:42:33
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 5 2008, 03:48 AM) [snapback]471747[/snapback]
Didn't take long for me to get completely pissed off with this s***. I'm banning everyone, apart from TiD. And maybe El Gofer.



EH!

El gopher-the insatiable coprophagist.

I want more jobby videos.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 08:47:57
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 5 2008, 08:14 AM) [snapback]471780[/snapback]
MJ its sunny and warm and a beautiful day
Relax , watch the tennis since there's no Andy Murray
Just for one day please give it a rest
and get off the back of my poor Dougie Rae sad.gif



It's dull and overcast up here
as if you didn't know my Dear
and sure as Jordan's tits are joogly
I'll keep on humping poor Auld Shoogly.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 08:54:03
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 5 2008, 08:47 AM) [snapback]471789[/snapback]
Gotta agree with Dr Jag on this one.

Also I'm not too concerned about the number of pre-season games as it's give us a chance to try out a few trialists as well as giving the whole squad match practice.

If we have approx 6 trialists then most of the squad will only play 4 or 5 games and some of them might be bit part appearances.

Including the youths how many of a squad do we have 23 ??

It's beginning to look as though DI has cut his cloth as best he can-we're going to be very hard to beat-I doubt if we'll see much attractive football, and for me that will be a big disappointment, but at least we won't have a repeat of last season's jellyfish joke.

Share issue's in place and hopefully we'll have an SPL compliant stadium in a couple of seasons-the jigsaw puzzle's filling up nicely.

All we need now is money and a change of leadership.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 08:58:20
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jul 5 2008, 08:52 AM) [snapback]471791[/snapback]
Welcome to last week for me ! It's early days I know, but I think the naysayers who were dead against this forum when it was being set up are being proved correct with every passing day and the increasing number of peurile topics.
I thought once the novelty of being allowed to say pretty much anything had worn off, this forum would bed in to somewhere you could really go to town on meaty topics or heavy slaggings or good patter.

To date it's done none of that. Which is a shame really.

As I said it IS early days - so I live in hope.

TonInDublin

Stop talkin' mince ya oirish POUFFE
mortonjag 2008-07-05 09:11:49 Right guys-I've already started a thread on the adult forum, but I wonder if the weans can also discuss crime and punishment, without boasting about their sexual conquests and preferred porno sites.

I have absolutely no time for corporal punishment being against some daft law passed by PC POUFFES in Brussels.

Neither am I interested in all the old excuses about gratuitous thrashings of innocent children by sexually frustrated schoolmasters.

Most of all I believe that the human rights of the law abiding should always precede the perceived rights of vermin.

It's well documented that crime rates are low where beatings, amputations of offending limbs, and even ritual stoning are accepted practice.

I don't believe I'm condoning anything quite so 'barbaric' when I plead that common sense prevail, and we re-introduce some form of physical deterrent to the most brutal and mindless types of offence.



mortonjag 2008-07-05 09:18:06
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jul 5 2008, 09:12 AM) [snapback]471801[/snapback]
I agree. Thought the novelty of posting s*** would have worn off by now.

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Now, now Madam-we little ones will never tire of posting sh*t. Indeed I couldn't sleep last night because that Bernadette next door was playing her bloody Rosemary Clooney music again, so I've just popped a humungous keech through her letterbox.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 09:41:14
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Jul 5 2008, 09:23 AM) [snapback]471805[/snapback]
I disagree. Show me a judicial system that works 100% of the time and I might consider. Some things that I do believe in:

Life should mean life;
Tougher sentences for first offenders;
Proper attempts at rehabilitation whilst incarcerated;
Tougher regimes in jails, whilst taking the other points into consideration.

I understand that crime rates in countries with death penalties are higher than here. Ever been to Texas?

Do you believe that birching first offenders ( indiscriminate stabbing) would increase offending by those folk?
mortonjag 2008-07-05 09:44:26
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 5 2008, 09:26 AM) [snapback]471807[/snapback]
Woman don't have the right to demand anything!
i would just like to point out this is the views of www.greenockmorton.org/forum and its owners and is not shared by Port-ton or his affiliates.

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What a lovely euphemism for humpees.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 09:59:59
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 5 2008, 09:42 AM) [snapback]471814[/snapback]
Attractive football is overrated. tongue.gif wink.gif

Unattractive football is overrated and sadly all too common those days.

Attractive football draws in the crowds and MUNNY.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 10:02:03
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 5 2008, 09:45 AM) [snapback]471816[/snapback]
Threave Castle was built by the son of one of the most fearsome knights in Europe, The Black Douglas.
The "Good" Sir James Douglas as he was known in Scotland, was Robert the Bruce's most trusted and loyal knights.
The Douglas motto "Jamais arrière" (never behind) was because this fearsome warrior always went into battle ahead of his men.
When the Bruce died, Sir James took his heart to fight in the Crusades. He died enroute in Teba, Spain fighting the Moors.
The Douglas family became one of the most powerful families in Scotland. His son Archibald the Grim built Threave Castle and died in 1400.

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDAnother POUFFE by the sound of it.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 10:04:47
QUOTE(Cowshed Chris @ Jul 5 2008, 09:49 AM) [snapback]471818[/snapback]
Is Collins still an ass? blink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-05 10:07:35
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jul 5 2008, 08:56 AM) [snapback]471793[/snapback]
Looks like you are spot on princess. Have to say though I have a feeling that Nadal might win tomorrow. He has been really strong recently.

Yip-I fancy a wee double on Nadal and Lewis Hamilton.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 10:13:40
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Jul 5 2008, 09:33 AM) [snapback]471808[/snapback]
when the day comes that i have faith in the judicial system in getting the right person for the crime then this maybe an option, until then, no chance.

It's GOT to be a percentages game-SIMPLE.





QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Jul 5 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]471820[/snapback]
28th July 2002 - The Guardian

"The Lord Chancellor's Department's statistics on successful appeals against criminal conviction show that in the decade 1989-1999 the Court of Appeal (Criminal Division) abated over 8,470 criminal convictions - a yearly average of 770. In addition, there are around 3,500 quashed criminal convictions a year at the Crown Court for convictions obtained at the magistrates' courts."
Thats a lot of people that would be wrongly birched! our entire criminal justice system needs to be looked at and reformed. then, if appropriate i would back longer sentances or harsher punishments..

And how many of those successful appeals were simply because the prosecution had not put the case together properly? A successful appear is NOT a statement of innocence.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 10:21:39
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jul 5 2008, 09:47 AM) [snapback]471817[/snapback]
Wow, a serious thread - how I've missed you !!!!!

I have to confess to being a wee bit of a mongrel when it comes to this subject MJ.

I would absolutely be FOR corporal punishment, both in schools and in society - especially the use of the birch for the scum who continually pester the life out of decent people - ASBO's me hole.

But I'm 100% against capital punishment, for the obvious reasons of making a mistake.

Apart from that I tend to sympathise with you and TAFKAC ........ and would fall on the conservative side of punishment.

Anyone who carries a knife should get jail time, and a decent chunk of it - at LEAST three years.
Anyone who carries a knife then uses it to to take a life should get life with a minimum 20 years.
Anyone who tampers with children should get at least 10 years - regardless the "severity" - and up to life depending on the frequency or the nature of the crime.
Anyone who abuses and kills a child should get life to mean life, no exceptions.

I'm not in favour of limb removal or any such barbarity but I would be in favour of chemical castration for sex offenders.

Discuss ......

TonInDublin

Matthew 18.9


And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.

It's a Christian principle, and it's actually a kindness to those people.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 10:45:14
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Jul 5 2008, 10:36 AM) [snapback]471835[/snapback]
you would probably look at it from a different angle if you had also been convicted of a crime you never committed.

how do you judge "balance of probability?". is it someones previous record, the area they were spotted in etc? if so you are looking at lynching the wrong people on a hell of a lot of occasions, giving the police far too much credit for being able to pick the right man. Sometimes, its easy for them just to get an arrest to close a case and in their own admission, they are under pressure to close cases that can lead to wrongful arrest.

Vigilante action has been and will continue to be carried out for a long time, its nothing new and its paper scare talk saying that people "may" or its a possibility of resorting to vigilante action. its been happening for years and most of us have taken part or witnessed it happening.

On point number 4.. i agree with you and am in the same position regarding the child. Although nothing has ever changed that, ive not had enough.. i would have always kicked someones arse for hurting my child.. it has not come to this.

Im not disputing that there are loads of clear cut cases out there that the criminal is not getting punishment to match the crime. What i would not back is an across the board approach were there could be doubt in some of the convictions leading to the old miscarriage of justice.

If it was as simple as "A" stabs "B", "A" is as guilty as charged... yes throw the book at "A". unfortunately not every case is as simple, thus a change in rulings to effect every case is not the answer without a reform to the entire justice system.

Do you believe that-for example- birching of PROVEN BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT knife offenders would have a deterrent effect not only on them but on others who might have considered carrying a weapon?
mortonjag 2008-07-05 11:39:57
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Jul 5 2008, 11:00 AM) [snapback]471838[/snapback]
MJ,

I believe that common sense should prevail, without implementing a law that would effect everycase across the board.

I don't believe that birching any offender would have a positive effect, if our society becomes violent we will breed more violence.

Tho.. to answer your point i do not think that the way the courts are dealing with knifes and knife crime in general are adequete to deter offenders the way it is currently set up. (i have experience of working with Young people who have been in an out the court system for these crimes for a number of years).

As i have clearly said, there should be more adequate punishment to suit the crime, i do not despute this. What i am 100 percent against is a knee jerk reaction and red rag rage to introduce minimum sentances across the board when not all the cases are clear cut.

wait til the ropes drooped round your neck midtons!.. you may have a change of heart on that suggestion happy.gif

If you want to fling in personal experiences, I have frequently seen at first hand, not only the physical results of indiscriminate stabbings, but the huge knock on effect they have on extended families. I personally know someone who works for the SCCRC-he assures me that a HIGH proportion of successful appeals are the result of procedural inadequacies, rather than any proof of innocence.

I take issue with your comments about 'our society becoming more violent-thus breeding more violence'. It's one of those regularly touted 'social worker' myths which folk latch onto with rarely a thought! The law and 'our society' are surely two separate entities.

Which is preferable-a 'short sharp and effective shock' and sending homeward to think again, or chucking the brats into jail to further their apprenticeship at huge public expense. Indeed, even that has now been forsaken in favour of 'Fiscal fines'-one of the biggest cops out in the history of the Scottish Legal System, and a total indictment of our present Government at Holyrood.

Birching the little brats is a cheap and cost effective deterrent. Let's get on with TRUE common sense!
mortonjag 2008-07-05 11:46:15
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Jul 5 2008, 11:24 AM) [snapback]471848[/snapback]
As if anybody needed proof that High Court judges are away wae the fairies! They're f***in crisps yer Honour! rolleyes.gif

I'd suggest that Pringles are Pommes de terre POUFFES.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 11:49:29
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 5 2008, 11:18 AM) [snapback]471843[/snapback]
I'd like Scott to answer that too, bearing in mind he'll be bawdeep by in Collins by October. laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-05 11:51:27
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jul 5 2008, 11:34 AM) [snapback]471849[/snapback]
It seemed the more I gave, the less I got.

What's the use of trying-all you get is pain! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-05 11:53:33
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jul 5 2008, 11:44 AM) [snapback]471852[/snapback]
You can be physical and still play attractive football.

That is indisputable!
mortonjag 2008-07-05 11:55:38
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jul 5 2008, 11:46 AM) [snapback]471854[/snapback]
The common 5-8s can believe what they like - unlike you MJ, I know what I'm talking about. laugh.gif laugh.gif

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What's the most common complication of a ruptured appendix?
mortonjag 2008-07-05 12:02:18
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 5 2008, 11:20 AM) [snapback]471846[/snapback]
Violence breeds violence.
How many times has the senile Jag and MidTONs came up with the same argument on here over the past fecking year anyway? blink.gif
I'm not cheeky lorry man - I'm just right. happy.gif

Namby pamby parenting, a wishy washy self perpetuating 'social services', and gutless politicians breed violent brats who KNOW they can get off with murder.

QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 5 2008, 11:48 AM) [snapback]471856[/snapback]
The same "short sharp" shocks that bred Hitler and Stalin?

Did somebody spank their little pink botties for stabbing folk? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-05 12:05:50
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 5 2008, 11:58 AM) [snapback]471862[/snapback]
Clint Eastwood

You only knew because I told you.

What is the most common cause of gynaecomastia?
mortonjag 2008-07-05 12:08:26
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 5 2008, 12:05 PM) [snapback]471867[/snapback]
Which is why I'm happy Millar's left. happy.gif

Midge might well have complemented the current squad.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 12:10:57
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 5 2008, 11:20 AM) [snapback]471845[/snapback]
Why ?

Why whit?

Oh and BTW Spurtle-there's an impostor who has registered using your name! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-05 12:23:32
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 5 2008, 12:08 PM) [snapback]471869[/snapback]
No, although Stalin was placed in 9 seperate exile communities for various crimes.
Of course psychologists agree that voilent punishment particularly from an early age causes real mental damage to the victim yet Dr Mentaljag sees things differently, under his raving mad slevvering Daily-Mail right wing persona.
Methinks your argument is perfect for "General Nonsense". happy.gif

Methinks you should come back when you can talk from personal experience son.

If you're only on this thread for a good old argument, by all means enjoy that, but stop quoting selected excerpts from your chosen reading material, as though they are perceived wisdom.

Dr Mentaljag is politically neither right, left, or centre because Dr Mentaljag is able to think for himself and reach conclusions based on personal experience. Dr Mentaljag would happily birch all politicians.

Learn from your elders and betters young man, instead of arguing with them. Folk who argue with their elders and betters should be birched too.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 12:33:43
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 5 2008, 12:08 PM) [snapback]471871[/snapback]
sorry, my specialist subject is Susan Sarandon films from 1992-2001

OK-where was Susan Sarandon's liver situated?
mortonjag 2008-07-05 12:37:59
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 5 2008, 12:21 PM) [snapback]471879[/snapback]
Mortonjag agrees - argument has been lost by the other side. happy.gif

What are you blabbering about now?

Into your high chair with you-Mummy has opened a nice tin of alphabet soup.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 12:47:18
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Jul 5 2008, 12:16 PM) [snapback]471875[/snapback]
I honestly don't know. I agree with TiD that corporal punishment should be allowed in schools, but that there should be age limit. Following that train of argument logically would probably have me against birching. But as I say, I don't know.

It's refreshing to get an honest answer.

Many people are dead against corporal punishment just because they find the concept repugnant, and are happy to espouse the pronouncements of others without real thought.

That is why I believe it's important to consider the VICTIMS of violent crime as more accurately representative of normal society than the perpetrators.

Furthermore-there is choice-if you don't want birched don't carry a blade. Simple really.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 12:52:39
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 5 2008, 12:21 PM) [snapback]471877[/snapback]
Why have I been banned from entry into the forum ?

And there is only one Spurtle !

I don't think you've been banned-they probably haven't got to the 'esses' yet, and anyway you ain't missing too much so far. The main advantage seems to be that you can call somebody a POUFFE without getting a three day ban! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-05 12:59:55
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 5 2008, 12:32 PM) [snapback]471882[/snapback]
Alas, the old ageist patronisation comes through at last. laugh.gif
You're not better than me or anyone on this site, you've just got a jumped up opinion of your own self-worth that you choose to smear over the forum day after day without cease.
General Practitioner I presume - good to know that your psychological analysis is deemed greater than that of the experts in the field, eh?

My humble apologies-I could have sworn you were just a not too bright wean with an inflated self worth and an unhealthy disrespect for his elders and betters.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 13:06:48
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jul 5 2008, 01:03 PM) [snapback]471896[/snapback]
Naa, but the Turks thought it was a Delight ph34r.gif
I'll get that coat

I never had you down as a fudge packer Gibby-you've gone WAY UP in my estimation.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 13:09:38
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 5 2008, 12:55 PM) [snapback]471894[/snapback]
Esses ?? blink.gif

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OOPS- I forgot some folk call you Colkitto-well I still don't believe for a minute you're banned when I see some of those who managed in! huh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-05 13:12:27
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 5 2008, 01:10 PM) [snapback]471899[/snapback]
He'll be 10 times worse! laugh.gif

mad.gif

Right you-bend over-you're about to be birched bummed.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 13:37:10
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Jul 5 2008, 01:23 PM) [snapback]471903[/snapback]
So one day we get to the age when we all come to the same conclusions because there's only one conclusion to come to?

Don't be naughty-coming to conclusions based on experience is entirely different from plagiarising pre-selected material which appears to support puerile notions of reality.

It is my considered opinion, based on many years experience-I do have a qualification in Psychology too BTW!-that birching is an effective and cheap method of dealing with a small number of offences.

I obviously disagree with those who are able to put a reasoned argument-backed by experience-to the contrary. That does not mean I disrespect their opinions.

Precocious little boys who see fit to contradict older and wiser people are inevitably shown up for the fools they are.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 13:48:09
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 5 2008, 12:39 PM) [snapback]471887[/snapback]
Morecambe

speaking of, John Newby. BTT!

if he signed yesterday allegedly we should know today yes?

The correct answer was 'beside her onions'!


Speaking of Newb-aye you'd think so!

Mind you Smiffy knows and he was once right before I think.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 13:50:51
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 5 2008, 12:42 PM) [snapback]471889[/snapback]
laugh.gif
I'm not going to lower myself to your level.

FAIL

You mean you can't you daft wee c*nt until Mummy unstraps you, and she won't be getting up to do that till we're finished..
mortonjag 2008-07-05 14:14:56
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 5 2008, 12:21 PM) [snapback]471879[/snapback]
Mortonjag agrees - argument has been lost by the other side. happy.gif

CORRECT!


FAIL


As ever! thumbdown.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-05 14:32:22
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 5 2008, 01:50 PM) [snapback]471907[/snapback]
Perhaps then Mentaljag would like to give evidence to support his claims instead of slevvering about wee pink botties.
Until then your wisdom is subject to ridicule.

Now, you'd think having had far too many years living in the sort of Greenock schemes where knife crime is rife, I'd be the one to immediately call for the birch, the cane, the noose and all the other punishment devices under the sun.
Instead of the doctor from the Newlands ivory tower. sleep.gif

That's your problem son-you think you can second guess your elders and betters. Well you can't, though it might upset you if you realised how transparent YOU are.

The only 'ridiculous' thing I can see is your persistence.

I stated that I believe birching would be effective-there is no recent evidence in this country to support my belief, though I invite you to join in the experiment. As I told you, my belief is based on years of experience, and on no small quantity of learning including my Psychology training.

Do you plan to inhabit a scheme where knife crime is rife when you've reached my age?

Is that why you've been reading all those big books? eek.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-05 15:17:38
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jul 5 2008, 02:45 PM) [snapback]471919[/snapback]
you better not be insinuating that either is a pouffe . rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-05 15:24:31
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 5 2008, 02:33 PM) [snapback]471915[/snapback]
You say that like I don't already rolleyes.gif

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Have you considered changing your butcher?
mortonjag 2008-07-05 15:58:30
QUOTE(CraigoTON @ Jul 5 2008, 02:54 PM) [snapback]471922[/snapback]
so... how do you get in then? huh.gif huh.gif huh.gif

If you're over eighteen (not my decision-'cos I believe we've some posters under eighteen whose maturity puts others to shame) you just ask Ton in Dublin or Boozehound.

It's their call (as should be) as they've done the work to get it up and running.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 16:01:20
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 5 2008, 02:47 PM) [snapback]471920[/snapback]
WTF are you lot on about unsure.gif

Birching-in particular birching knife offenders-what do you think?
mortonjag 2008-07-05 16:05:50
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 5 2008, 03:31 PM) [snapback]471931[/snapback]
Did I read that correctly as I scratch my head unsure.gif

Mortonjag does not make mistakes dearie.

Are you free tonight?
mortonjag 2008-07-05 16:27:59
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Jul 5 2008, 02:21 PM) [snapback]471912[/snapback]
The thing about personal experience is that you only ever experience your own perspective. It's like the favourite cry of the white South African - the 'you weren't there, you don't know' argument. I'm not denying the helpfulness of experience in making considered opinions, but it's like making an opinion with blinkers on, you only see what's right in front of you, while missing what's all around you. As someone with a Psychology qualification you should realise how important research is, but in another way you're right, the research is always just another considered opinion based on the research - but it shouldn't be ignored on this basis, just not declared as truth. And if you realise the importance of experience you should also realise you're lack of experience of being a young person in recent times.

You retorted with a lazy argument based on age and experience. If you're experience means something you should let it speak for itself. You should put forward a considered opinion, and then argue against other considered opinions. And there's no reason why you cannot borrow from the considered opinions of others, as long as you treat it as opinion and not fact.

To add to this argument: In my experience those who were violently punished the most by their parents were the ones who were the biggest threat to others, and it's a similar story for the ones were locked up at a young age. I don't deny that it might help in some cases, but I see it as a poor attempt to solve the problem. I work in primary schools in my local area, when I meet some of the parents I wonder how they manage to keep their kids alive never mind help them to become helpful members of society. Violently punishing young people just tries to patch over the real problems IMO.

I accept your opinions, and agree with some of what you say.

Regarding the highlighted text, however, this is what I responded to:


Violence breeds violence.
How many times has the senile Jag and MidTONs came up with the same argument on here over the past fecking year anyway? blink.gif
I'm not cheeky lorry man - I'm just right. happy.gif



Now you can make up your mind whether the poster is a cheeky young brat, and just trying to wind up/outsmart the Jag, or whether HE is an ageist clown.

Either way, you may wish to reconsider your opinion that I replied with 'a lazy argument based on age and experience'.

VT has previous for this kind of provocative nonsense. It's my considered opinion based purely on observation of his posts, that he DOES think he knows more than I do on this particular issue.

He doesn't!

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mortonjag 2008-07-05 19:16:04
QUOTE(vikingTON)
'Jul 5 2008, 11:00 AM' post='471839']
Why don't we use the "Herod method" and just kill all newborn children - within 70 or so years crime will have been eradicated. huh.gif



QUOTE([color=)
vikingTON']Jul 5 2008, 11:20AM[/color]
Violence breeds violence.
How many times has the senile Jag and MidTONs came up with the same argument on here over the past fecking year anyway? blink.gif
I'm not cheeky lorry man - I'm just right. happy.gif



QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 5 2008, 04:48 PM) [snapback]471942[/snapback]
Oops, it appears that Dr Mentaljag was the first poster to even resort to age as an argument in the thread.
So whom is the "ageist clown" then?

A lazy argument on age and experience is all you have given despite God-knows how many posts of reprtitive pish on the matter.

How can I say for sure if I know more than you if you won't divulge any evidence to support your theory?
No evidence, no credence.

It seems you ARE serious!

Everything I've surmised about you previously is correct. It's perfectly clear from your first two posts that you were out to 'cause trouble', and the 'senile' comment is inaccurate, deliberately offensive, and PRECEDED anything I said to you. You couldn't even get that right.

Mortonjag does not attack, but vigorously defends his corner.

'No evidence-no credence'---another of your stupid remarks. This is not a scientific experiment. I have stated what I believe.

If others choose to prefer the opinion of an inexperienced 17 year old child, that is entirely their prerogative.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 20:38:59
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 5 2008, 04:40 PM) [snapback]471939[/snapback]
Yawn.

FAIL


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mortonjag 2008-07-05 20:40:25
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Jul 5 2008, 04:59 PM) [snapback]471945[/snapback]
when i needed sunshine i got rain mad.gif

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And then I saw her face
mortonjag 2008-07-05 20:42:35
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jul 5 2008, 06:01 PM) [snapback]471954[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Maybe thats why the Gillan clan never got a wave that day.

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mortonjag 2008-07-05 20:44:29
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 5 2008, 08:01 PM) [snapback]471985[/snapback]
Not at all. I'm just alluding to the fact that he's been close with previous Morton managers. wub.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-05 20:50:13 Signing good players on loan would make financial sense in our current predicament.

Signing Robinson is a complete gamble-if it works out fine-if it doesn't, we know who is responsible.

'Don't you think David, that young Robinson deserves the chance to take us forward'? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-05 20:55:35
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jul 5 2008, 04:45 PM) [snapback]471941[/snapback]
Name names. wink.gif



QUOTE(leyTON @ Jul 5 2008, 06:37 PM) [snapback]471962[/snapback]
yes do



Dunning and Leyton for starters, and of course my wee darling Deeglet! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-05 21:03:17
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 5 2008, 08:00 PM) [snapback]471984[/snapback]
Come on Col, criticise the man for his politics by all means but his sexuality is his own business. You're not following the Soapy Souter party line I hope.

unsure.gif

Not often I support Spurtle DE, but he DID say 'arse licker'.

'Arse bandit' would have been different and surprised me none.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 21:06:03
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jul 5 2008, 08:38 PM) [snapback]472007[/snapback]
I'm always spot on. You might be right about Nadal though. smile.gif

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You're coming along nicely-try 'Princess is always spot on', next time! cool.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-05 21:14:20
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 5 2008, 08:13 PM) [snapback]471990[/snapback]
I would knife the lot of them blink.gif

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I would feed them live into a giant mincer pour encourager les autres Willow, but we have to be seen to be civilised.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 21:17:30
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jul 5 2008, 08:26 PM) [snapback]472001[/snapback]
God loves a trier. wink.gif

That's why we've still got Finlayson.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 21:20:09
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 5 2008, 08:48 PM) [snapback]472023[/snapback]
Now, now, one is as sober as a judge.

...and the rest are as pished as Willow.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 21:25:37
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 5 2008, 09:01 PM) [snapback]472035[/snapback]
That makes two of us blush.gif

Thank goodness somebody else has the courage to admit it. There must be thousands who do it-in fact I'll bet some are so desperate they just unroll and fling the paper away as soon as the bog roll's out the Tesco bag.

I've tried humping one with the paper still on but it's more difficult to see your knob going out and in the far end-the bit I like best.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 21:28:21
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jul 5 2008, 08:49 PM) [snapback]472024[/snapback]
Maybe it wouldn't have been so bad if i didn't have rubber gloves and tongs.? blush.gif

Tweezers my Dear-get it right please.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 21:31:38
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 5 2008, 08:49 PM) [snapback]472025[/snapback]
Exactly. So they swell up like a watermelon once a month. So what? Deal with it, bitch.

Women make such a song and dance about childbirth too, if men gave birth it'd be a couple of paracetamol and back to work within the hour. happy.gif

Ibuprofen actually, and they'd just take a tea break to drap the sprog and back to the important stuff.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 22:14:49
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 5 2008, 09:52 PM) [snapback]472064[/snapback]
i'm looking for a new camera any suggestions?

If it's a reliable wee digital Bryan you'll do well with Amazon. I've got a Canon Powershot which I believe cost about £130 and it's been all I expected it to be.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 22:19:59
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 5 2008, 09:16 PM) [snapback]472046[/snapback]
Bryan is indeed correct, I did come on here and say it looked as if I had got it wrong only for the wee s*** to go full circle.
Edit to add - I don't take any pleasure for being right in these situations.


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QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jul 5 2008, 09:42 PM) [snapback]472059[/snapback]
Can't find a smug smiley, so this one will need to do! cool.gif

All right Smiffy-how many is he going to score next season? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-05 22:22:27
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 5 2008, 09:23 PM) [snapback]472051[/snapback]
Yes but the Big Q is....

Would that stop them re-offending tongue.gif

Who knows-they'd probably come back as Midden supporters.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 22:25:15 Slightly embarrassed to admit it but that's how I met my current partner. He lied a wee bit (his knob's actually quite little) but he's a gem of a man, and anyway I do the shagging.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 22:28:00
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 5 2008, 09:30 PM) [snapback]472055[/snapback]
TBH I use the cardboard insert of Kitchen Roll laugh.gif

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I sometimes use those but those POUFFES on the Bounty advert put me off. I'd much rather shag an Andrex Puppy roll.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 22:31:00
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 5 2008, 09:34 PM) [snapback]472057[/snapback]
Or Forceps laugh.gif

DREAM ON!

Back to the topic and the excitement stuff-the best piece of excitement I ever had was discovering she had none on.
mortonjag 2008-07-05 22:33:38
QUOTE(mortonboi @ Jul 5 2008, 10:25 PM) [snapback]472076[/snapback]
is newby signed

AYE! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-05 22:36:34
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 5 2008, 10:18 PM) [snapback]472071[/snapback]
Brown has lost control of his Party, even the trusted lieutenants in his own Cabinet know he is dead man walking

.....and we could NEVER accuse Bawheid of being dead! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-06 07:30:05
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 5 2008, 11:30 PM) [snapback]472108[/snapback]
I know what he said and I have a good idea what he inferred.

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You sound like ME!
mortonjag 2008-07-06 07:36:05
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 6 2008, 12:06 AM) [snapback]472111[/snapback]
Despite the best efforts of Thatcher and Blair, Socialism's greatest acheivement still survives. Ok, it was a Liberal that conceived it, but a Socialist made it a reality. Within the first ten years of its existence, infant mortality rates were cut in half. Access to healthcare immediately became a right instead of a privilege and consequently average life expectancy has been extended by 15 years since the inception of the NHS in 1948. The reactionary forces of the predominantly Tory establishment, both north and south of the border, did their best to strangle the NHS before it could be born. Thankfully, THEY DID NOT SUCCEED.
All youse Tories, either red, white and blue or tartan, look upon Socialism's best work and despair.

I do every day look at the country's most kicked political football and despair Mr Edwards. It could still be SO good you know.

QUOTE(forza ton @ Jul 6 2008, 01:06 AM) [snapback]472131[/snapback]
it's amazing how the nhs gets taken for granted eh? what i hate though is when people use it to say how much better we are than the yanks etc. imo it doesn't make us a super forward thinking state for having it more it shows the likes of the u.s. to be total twats for not having it. if u know what i mean!!!

i reckon it's a pre-requisite for a modern country to tax it's citizens according to their ability to pay in order to fund essential services. i don't mind workin and i don't mind paying. i'm a socialist. it's the only way. any c*** got anything to say about that? eh?eh?

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Aye-you're an utter fud who sometimes gets things right.
mortonjag 2008-07-06 07:40:21
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 6 2008, 07:18 AM) [snapback]472189[/snapback]
What's the prob?
Worried about gettin' yer ass blown up or not a fan of Zionism? unsure.gif

Petty crime's rife among them Israelis. Folk are getting their tools nicked day and daily.
mortonjag 2008-07-06 07:52:22 Support for independence slips slightly

SUPPORT FOR INDEPENDENCE HAS dropped slightly in the first opinion poll conducted since the SNP government's first parliamentary session in office.

The TNS System Three survey shows that 39% of respondents want Alex Salmond's administration to negotiate for independence with Westminster, compared with 41% who oppose it.

The percentage of Scots backing the break-up of the United Kingdom is down 2% in three months, but up 4% since August last year.
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Salmond wants to hold an independence referendum in 2010 as a prelude to entering talks with Westminster about creating a separate Scottish state.

TNS has organised a quarterly tracker poll since last autumn based on the exact question Salmond would like to put to the electorate.

He wants to ask voters whether they agree or disagree that "the Scottish Government should negotiate a settlement with the Government of the United Kingdom so that Scotland becomes an independent state".

The latest snapshot, which was conducted between June 25 and July 1, reveals that 41% of those polled disagree with the proposition, while 39% agree.

This contrasts with the result three months ago, when support for independence was recorded at 41% and opposition came in at 40%.

Both results are within the margin of error, which suggests that the 21% of "don't knows" would determine the result of a referendum. The TNS poll from August last year found that 50% of those polled disagreed with Salmond's independence option, compared to 35% in favour.

Eleven months of polling has shown support for separation rise by 4%, while opposition has fallen by 9%. Equally, SNP supporters may be anxious that support for independence appears to have flatlined around 40%.

It is also apparent from other polls that putting a third question on the ballot paper, namely boosting Holyrood's powers, reduces the numbers for independence. Support for independence is greatest amongst the 35 to 44 age group, while opposition is strongest in the 65+ bracket.

The poll was taken in the middle of the Wendy Alexander donation saga and at the end of the SNP's first parliamentary session in office, a period marked by debates on abolishing the council tax and replacing PFI.

TNS managing director Chris Eyon said of the findings: "While this is clearly a positive situation for the SNP compared to August, when support languished 15% behind opposition, it is interesting to note that the actual level of support is now only 4% higher than the opening reading. The difference is in the level actively opposed, which has declined by 9%, although the majority of these are now undecided rather than supportive of independence."

A Labour spokesman said: "The SNP want to break up Britain, and this poll shows that a majority reject this."

The SNP's Nicola Sturgeon said: "This poll confirms that support for independence is running neck and neck with the status quo."











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That's right Nickerless, 39% = 41%, we're getting a Health Service that will 'Meet Demand', School class sizes are dropping as promised, Soutar only gave you two and six, and the Pope's an Orangeman.



Chickens coming home to roost. If you really want independence, start treating the electorate as intelligent adults! wacko.gif wacko.gif wacko.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-06 08:12:02
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 6 2008, 07:53 AM) [snapback]472197[/snapback]
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Now now, I had hoped that you, as a medic, would deplore male genital mutilation.



Clinical circumcision is to be commended.

I do, however, deplore the practices of Imams and Rabbis. The penknife is not a scalpel.

Many's the time I've had to pick up the pieces. blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-06 08:20:42
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jul 6 2008, 01:38 AM) [snapback]472136[/snapback]
i'm not into violence. period. it's caveman behaviour and has no place as a punishment in a modern state.
longer sentences with fewer "benefits" are required. we need to look at the causes of crime to protect our citizens whilst hammering the perpetrators with hard time.

i should be a politician me, i'd be f***ing brilliant

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.....but you're not into 'violence'.

Which is preferable-a public arse tanning, after which you can crawl home for a long hard think, or being deprived of your freedom for six months at huge public expense.

Oh-or a Fiscal Fine!!!!

Aye gonnae geez wan o' thae fiscal fines-the social'll pay it. ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-06 08:27:51
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Jul 5 2008, 11:01 PM) [snapback]472097[/snapback]
I'm confused MJ, I thought you had children? Or did they come before you found men?

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When God closes a door he opens a window.

I'm a firm believer in investigating all openings.
mortonjag 2008-07-06 08:33:54
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jul 6 2008, 02:00 AM) [snapback]472145[/snapback]
here that was a good attempt at a smokesreen my man. anyway, were his balls heaving wi spunk?



One of the few expressions I've heard which cannot be translated into medical jargon! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-06 08:38:29 When I think of independence, I think of freedom.

When I see Bawheid's self satisfied smirk, I think of tyranny.
mortonjag 2008-07-06 08:45:29
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Jul 6 2008, 08:41 AM) [snapback]472205[/snapback]
What's wrong with Hawaii? I went there on vacation in 1994, and I told my wife, "Go back and sell everything because I ain't going back......."

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Hawaii is seen as an idyllic destination by normal folk Trick! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-06 09:20:49
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 6 2008, 09:15 AM) [snapback]472214[/snapback]
In fact Rabbis don't do the chopping, that's the job for a mohel.

Clicky.

I'm surprised you you know so much about Rabbis' choppers Mr. Bam.
mortonjag 2008-07-06 10:21:59
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 6 2008, 09:43 AM) [snapback]472227[/snapback]
Aye, you are right MJ, let's call off the proposed 2010 referendum Bill. That massive 2% drop means the chickens have indeed come home to roost and it's all now pointless to even consider independence.

You were right all along....... rolleyes.gif

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How unlike you to rubbish the results of polls Spurtle! drink.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-06 10:26:16
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 6 2008, 09:24 AM) [snapback]472219[/snapback]
Or even those who chop choppers. laugh.gif

Oh hell-here comes the Mohel with his Swiss army knife and a big cheesy grin.

QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jul 6 2008, 09:25 AM) [snapback]472221[/snapback]
I was being ironic, Trick. rolleyes.gif

Anybody got a surfboard I can borrow? cool.gif

Can you swim?
mortonjag 2008-07-06 10:40:18
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jul 6 2008, 09:32 AM) [snapback]472224[/snapback]
Having now lived in 4 European countries my own personal experience and that of my family tells me that the NHS in the UK was the worst healthcare system of them all..... and by a country mile at that.

It may well have been groundbreaking and achieved great things 60 years ago but it's no longer fit for the needs and expectations of the 21st century.

Guess it doesn't get any more personal-and you're correct.

QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jul 6 2008, 10:00 AM) [snapback]472231[/snapback]
It needs a lot more than 'restructuring' David, it needs to be overhauled completely.

All the countries I've lived in have offered healthcare to all, free at the point of use, which I assume meets your Socialist requirements?

The difference being however that the quality of the heathcare offered is infinitely superior to that offered by the NHS.

Now, why do you think that might be? I suspect it might have something to do with the fact that the healthcare systems in mainland Europe are generally ran by the medical profession and supported by the government, rather than the other way round as is the case with the good old NHS.

I know it's a British institution and a great Socialist achievement and all that, but it's no longer fit for purpose.



That's oversimplified, but what you're saying is common sense.

I've claimed 'for long and weary' that hospitals were actually MORE efficient forty years ago, for the simple reason that they were run by the Matron who oversaw an efficient nursing workforce, and the Hospital Superintendent-a senior physician who was in charge of the medical side. Just two 'high heid yins' where now there are literally HUNDREDS in any general hospital.

The wastage on 'management' and bureaucracy in today's NHS is nothing short of criminal, but it's a self perpetuating cancer endorsed by politicians.

Put what you've just said in stark contrast to Ms. Sturgeon's claim that she'll give us a Scottish NHS which meets demand without further involvement of the private sector, and you have a perfect example of what I'm talking about.

As long as the NHS is ruled by 'the party in power' it will continue to deteriorate.
mortonjag 2008-07-06 10:48:32
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jul 6 2008, 10:16 AM) [snapback]472236[/snapback]
This whole episode just makes you shake your head in disbelief.

Is it any wonder the Muslim community in this country have difficulty integrating into our way of life. Something has got to give sometime. This is Scotland and each time they complain about aspects of our culture that they find offensive it just increases the divide.

They are making rods for their own backs.


Some years ago in Glasgow the Cooncil saw fit to name the road leading to the local Muslim Temple as Mosque Avenue.

Nothing particularly offensive there, but I'm just wondering how long it will be before they are forced to re-name Christian Street (especially as it lies right in the midst of a multi-cultural area).

I am NOT joking.
mortonjag 2008-07-06 11:13:24
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 6 2008, 11:07 AM) [snapback]472250[/snapback]
Anyway, I thought the story of the day was about the Glasgow Labour MP who had to retire on "health reasons"

Strangely not a story you will see in any Scottish newspaper, only reported in England.

He spent £500,000 of taxpayers' money running his office and for paying his staff. Turns out his "office" is his home. And his "staff" is his wife.

Nice work if you can get it eh ?



True Spurtle-not the sort of behaviour Bawheid's lot would EVER indulge in, because they are pure at heart.
mortonjag 2008-07-06 11:24:35
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 6 2008, 11:19 AM) [snapback]472256[/snapback]
"Salmond has failed the country" ?? laugh.gif Now that is baws !

"People waking up to reality" ? Obviously not something that has happened to you

"The Country starting to see Salmond and the SNP as a different shade of grey" ? I see no evidence of this at all. Perhaps you are just willing people to see that and hoping Salmond and the SNP fail.

What a great nationalist you are ! A credit to the cause....superb !

True Spurtle-true!

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 6 2008, 11:20 AM) [snapback]472257[/snapback]
That is indeed correct MJ. Best to keep to the facts eh ?

Show me an honest politician, and I'll show you a Fudgy Wudgy that doesn't rot little children's teeth.
mortonjag 2008-07-06 13:13:10
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 6 2008, 11:33 AM) [snapback]472266[/snapback]
One thing is for sure MJ, the Labour MP who resigned suffering clinical depression because of the expenses allegations, seems to me to be a wee bit dishonest in his expences claims.

From 2001-2007, he claimed £91,000 incidental expenses provision, which is used to pay for constituency offices (his home), plus £400,000 for staff (unsure if it's his wife or daughter as both have the same name) and £11,000 for their travel expenses.

The rules state, MP's can use their home as an office but only claim for additional costs like 'extra phone lines, heating and lighting'

I know the Electric and Gas bills were rising, but that is surely taking the piss mad.gif

Hey Spurtle-I'm not disputing any of it-well-only the bit about 'suffering clinical depression-because of'. Who are you to know his medical history!

Anyway, the point is that each time you highlight the graft and cupiditas of ANY M.P., you merely illustrate the point that they are all pigs in the same filthy swill.

Now here's a wee question!

Don't you imagine that the most successful pigs are the ones who don't get caught? eek.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-06 13:27:13
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Jul 6 2008, 12:37 PM) [snapback]472292[/snapback]
It may appear sensible, but there are rules about how private limited companies handle share issues. Canvassing for people to purchase shares in the local press breaches one of them. rolleyes.gif

There are also rules about how private limited companies make information available to the public via Companies House itchy baws!

Not that you'd have appreciated that from reading this thread.

Anyway, when's Alistair coming back from holiday, when's he going to sign the relevant document, and IS he going to invest in the current share issue?
mortonjag 2008-07-06 13:35:54 I can't get very enthusiastic about signing yet another striker when there are still other priorities. I've been excusing DI on the basis of lack of funds, but that's another salary to be paid, and still no wingers, no full backs, and only one goalie.

What's the secret plan?

Is Jimbo just about to go for £500,000, Kev for £5,000, Davie for £500, and the naked Ping Pong player for £50 and a blow job from Alan Maitland.

THERE-money in the bank-four salaries gone and the chance to get that 'small squad of quality players' we were promised. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-06 13:40:48
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 6 2008, 01:36 PM) [snapback]472309[/snapback]
Aye, there's the rub. smile.gif

Edwards' snake oil embrocation-guaranteed to reach the parts doctors wouldn't dream of touching! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-06 13:49:29 Yer Maw's so fat she wipes her arse with......

Yer Maws so fat she canny wipe her ain erse.
mortonjag 2008-07-06 14:12:42 John Hillcoat
Goalkeeping Academy

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John’s vast experience has inspired him to form his own Goalkeeping Academy catering for goalkeepers working at boys’ club/amateur level.

Regular visits to the Academy will give the youngsters a chance to:

* work with experienced SFA licensed coaches
* learn fundamental goalkeeping skills
* improve hand to eye coordination
* improve shot stopping
* improve handling
* improve distribution, positioning, crossing
* ...and a whole lot more

Contact John:

email: john@hillcoatgoalkeeping.co.uk

call: 07921914578


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mortonjag 2008-07-06 14:20:26
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jul 6 2008, 02:14 PM) [snapback]472322[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-07-06 14:26:40
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jul 6 2008, 02:12 PM) [snapback]472318[/snapback]
Weatherson, if fit - and I think Irons will make sure he is - could be one of the best strikers in this division, so f'ckin yee-ha if Newby turns out better.

NEWBS BOOBS



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mortonjag 2008-07-06 14:33:56
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 6 2008, 02:23 PM) [snapback]472325[/snapback]
Aye, that'd be about as remarkable as, er, Church Street. blink.gif

I'm not entirely clear as to which aspect of my post your typically confusing comment refers.

Church Street is a very common address throughout Scotland, as are, for that matter Chapel Street, and Station Road.

Christian Street is a rather unusual address, though I'd imagine there may still be a few more Christian Streets scattered across the country than Mosque Avenues, which brings me to the question I've been meaning to ask for a while.

What's your date of birth?
mortonjag 2008-07-06 14:40:06
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 6 2008, 02:34 PM) [snapback]472329[/snapback]
We spend around 10% of GDP on the NHS. For that we get a health service where something like 37% of the employees are Doctors, Nurses or other direct healthcare professionals (radiologists/physios and the like). The rest are cleaners/cooks/IT support plus of course the vast army of administrators in the NHS, many of them employed to get the statistics out for governments to prove what a good job they are doing!

We have the lowest ratio of doctors to patients in Europe. Long live universal healthcare free at the point of need but the NHS is not value for money as it is at the moment. Governments need to but out of running it except for provide the funding. Let healthcare professionals run healthcare.

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Sometimes the figures say it all!
mortonjag 2008-07-06 14:44:12
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jul 6 2008, 02:37 PM) [snapback]472330[/snapback]
and Harold, will you be at the airport awaiting his arrival with members of the serious crime squad? laugh.gif laugh.gif

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No more than anybody will bother his arse if the Tilly run a wee splurge suggesting that Mr Donald might be investing in the current share issue!
mortonjag 2008-07-06 14:52:30
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 6 2008, 02:44 PM) [snapback]472334[/snapback]
Aha I kind of see your guarded point (mince as usual), but wonder why date of birth would be relevant. unsure.gif

I was just curious to know how long you've lived on that Greenock scheme which is rife with knife crime, and I assume hoaching with Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, Confucians, atheists and a few Christians.



I was also planning to send you a birthday card-well Fing was actually.
mortonjag 2008-07-06 15:15:41
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jul 6 2008, 03:07 PM) [snapback]472348[/snapback]
He is back, he has signed, don't know.

Happy to be of service tongue.gif rolleyes.gif laugh.gif smartass.gif

You have indeed been a good boy. Have the changes been made at Companies House yet, or shall I need to contact my friend there again?

You have been promoted to grade B carrots!
mortonjag 2008-07-06 15:18:18
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 6 2008, 03:01 PM) [snapback]472343[/snapback]
Bless.
That would be 17 years.
Multi-religous: atheist, catholic, protestant, probably a few agnostics: I'll go to Haris and ask of their religion - most liekly Islam but as to which version I would not know.
Satisfied?

Yes.

Thank you very much.
mortonjag 2008-07-06 15:22:26
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jul 6 2008, 02:50 PM) [snapback]472336[/snapback]
With things like rising fuel prices, spiralling inflation and stealth taxes galore, has anyone recently thought about emigrating?

If so, where would their prefered destination be?

Also, a few folk on here have moved away from the UK to set up home on other parts of the world, what kind of experiences did they encounter?

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Your wee signature becomes all the more poignant! Don't let Rae force you into this my boy-good things may be just around the corner!
mortonjag 2008-07-06 15:36:30
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jul 6 2008, 03:22 PM) [snapback]472357[/snapback]
i think you should contact your friend at Companies House, this sort of crime should not go un-punished. So what kind of punishment are we looking at here, fines, point deductions, relegation, jail for the directors in question, expulsion from the league, playing games behind closed doors ????????



QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jul 6 2008, 03:22 PM) [snapback]472359[/snapback]
For completeness, you should perhaps add interpol, the fbi, the cia and international rescue to whom you should contact - the answer is likely to be the same with the second word being off. rolleyes.gif laugh.gif



Well gentlemen, let's just say that this thread had effectively died a natural death until it was resurrected by your good friend 'Itchy Baws'. I can't for the life of me imagine what he was trying to achieve. Maybe he's not that bright.

He was quick to point to the 'rules', and I merely did the same. You can't have it both ways.



Cue-


A pair of apparent clowns 'up the anti'-oh well if that's what you and Shoogly want fine. rolleyes.gif

I've already written to the Chief Executive suggesting that maybe the Chairman should open out a wee bit on Mr Donald's current role-given the ongoing share issue- and I've thanked Crawford Rae for his prompt explanation. I've genuinely been trying to see the thing in a positive light.

Your attempting to ridicule this issue is immature, and NOT in the Club's best interests.

You in particular, Tailbearer, should really know better! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-06 15:51:48
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jul 6 2008, 03:41 PM) [snapback]472365[/snapback]
Rising fuel prices is a global phenomena affecting every country in the world so emigrating won't get you away from that problem.

Inflation in the UK is relatively low compared to most other industrialised nations and there are also few countries with lower taxation that the UK. Stealth taxes are everywhere, I'm afraid.

So if these are the reasons for considering emigrating I think you'll be very disappointed.

If however you want to do it to broaden the mind, meet new people, and experience another culture and lifestyle, then I'd say go for it.

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mortonjag 2008-07-06 16:06:03
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jul 6 2008, 03:56 PM) [snapback]472369[/snapback]
I think you are the one who blew it out of all proportion in the first place, and as for not being in the clubs interest then why did you start it then ? Was it in the clubs best interest that you started it or another one of your pathetic little games to get at the chairman. Oh i forgot , you don't like answering questions that don't show you in the greatest of lights, are you a member of the Gillan clan laugh.gif ohmy.gif

If you care to check, I merely asked some pertinent questions 'in the first place'.

I discovered that many people had been wondering the same things. That was BEFORE it came to light that AD was not a designated director.

I haven't a clue what you mean by the italicized item, but if anybody is now playing pathetic little games I am certainly not he. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-06 16:13:50
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jul 6 2008, 04:07 PM) [snapback]472378[/snapback]
nice back-tracking, i'm impressed

Am I now supposed to say-'Pot-kettle-black'.

Nadal's winning by the way-I put a double on with him and Lewis Hamilton, so maybe you should be wishing a rapid painless death on all Spanish kids.

Shall I buy you a celebratory drink, or do you think there will be a big Swiss Cheesy smile at the end of play?

Fing's in the toilet right now. He's been a wee bit constipated of late, but the Monkey sends his good wishes. wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-06 16:20:35
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jul 6 2008, 04:13 PM) [snapback]472380[/snapback]
Goes back to a discussion a few weeks ago in another thread. If tax on fuel was reduced then you'd have to pay it back in another form of taxation.

Alternatively you'd have to live with the decrease in revenue and the lower public services, less policemen, larger class sizes, and even longer NHS waiting lists that would result in.
I think even you could learn something from foreigners Paul. tongue.gif

I'd never try to discourage anyone from experiencing living abroad, but if it's not done for the right reasons then I think you'll be disappointed, that's all.

You know me well enough, I'm narrow-minded and dont seek enlightenment from foreigners, but the UK depresses me at the moment and i want a decent lifestyle without those Labour b*****ds robbing me blind for it.



MUNNY



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mortonjag 2008-07-06 16:28:03
PLASTIC BOOTEES FOR POLICE SNIFFER DOGS


YIP folks-that's what I said-just heard on Five Live that the Polis are considering putting plastic bootees on sniffer dogs before they're taken into Muslim households.


Maybe Capitanus has got things spot on!

Where's the VOMIT smiley? ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-06 16:33:09
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jul 6 2008, 04:25 PM) [snapback]472385[/snapback]
I'm not in the least bit excited, believe you me! I tried for weeks to get out of it, not because it's Hawaii per se but because I hate traveling and 36 hours on a plane there and back really is my idea of hell.

It's Honolulu I'm going to, no idea what island that's on. Have you been there? Any good?

I hope I'll enjoy it when I get there though... after my presentation to a few hundred conference delegates is over with... definitely not looking forward to that. :squeekybum

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mortonjag 2008-07-06 16:35:33
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jul 6 2008, 04:31 PM) [snapback]472387[/snapback]
I also have hamilton and nadal, but i also have salford in there with them on a treble cool.gif and unfortunately i don't drink angel.gif

You are a wiser man than I'd ever imagined!
mortonjag 2008-07-06 17:24:51
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Jul 6 2008, 04:44 PM) [snapback]472392[/snapback]
or should that be ' fortunately ' i don't drink

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mortonjag 2008-07-06 17:33:08
QUOTE(Cowshed Chris @ Jul 6 2008, 05:26 PM) [snapback]472404[/snapback]
Just seeing if all has been forgiven now he's back.

As far as I am aware I am not - and never have been - bitter towards Scott or anyone else on here?

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mortonjag 2008-07-06 17:44:20
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jul 6 2008, 05:17 PM) [snapback]472402[/snapback]
Cheers. Pineapple farms eh.... cannae wait. rolleyes.gif The Pearl Harbor stuff doesn't really interest me either.... the film was s***e anyway.

Aye, the €:$ exchange rate is pretty good just now so hopefully will be a bit more affordable... the swally will be on expenses anyway so not too bothered about the costs.

Very used to doing presentations but not on this scale. Plus the people there will be very knowledgeable on the subject matter meaning that smile.gif my usual modus operandi.... namely bulls***ting.. .... is not an option. blush.gif



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mortonjag 2008-07-06 19:16:26
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jul 6 2008, 05:56 PM) [snapback]472417[/snapback]
I don't think the plan is secret. As we'll almost certainly be playing 3-5-2 most games, we don't need full-backs or wingers. The wing-backs fulfil both roles and we have two good ones in Finlayson and McAllister. Because we have lost four salaries doesn't necessarily mean there's money in the bank. I for one think we now have the 'small squad of quality players' we were promised. A first-team pool of only 18 is certainly not large. smile.gif

Because we've stubbornly refused to sign wingers or full backs we're forced into an inflexible system incorporating two 'wing backs' who can't cross a ball to save themselves, Smiffy.
mortonjag 2008-07-06 19:22:16
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jul 6 2008, 05:58 PM) [snapback]472418[/snapback]
I have my sources, ask MJ! rolleyes.gif

I can exclusively reveal that Smiffy is very close to the high heid yins at the 'Beano'.
mortonjag 2008-07-06 19:30:49
QUOTE(Cowshed Chris @ Jul 6 2008, 06:13 PM) [snapback]472422[/snapback]
I think we've probably got the right guy to take us forward, and at the same time, it's a really big chance for Irons to show that it wasn't just the money that took Gretna to the SPL. I also think that even if we struggle Rae will give Irons at least another year as we really need a bit of stability.

Things could be a hell of alot worse.



Arguably the best manager we've had since Rae became Chairman is now with Hamilton in the SPL. The worst was kept on for two seasons longer than his performance justified, and would still be with us in Division 2 if Rae had had his way.

Don't try to second guess Shoogly-his ego is FAR bigger than what's really best for the club.

Rather than the team struggling under Irons, I'd imagine Irons will eventually struggle under Rae. Hopefully money will be forthcoming from another source in the not to distant future.
mortonjag 2008-07-06 19:40:10
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jul 6 2008, 06:03 PM) [snapback]472420[/snapback]
No danger I thought you were promoting Alex Salmond to keep him busy at night while you let Mrs Salmond lick heather honey from your genitals wub.gif

Hives on his baws Chrissiboi-that sounds a wee bit itchy!
mortonjag 2008-07-06 19:42:36 If it's down to skill Hamilton will win the title-he's arguably the best British prospect since Jim Clark.
mortonjag 2008-07-06 19:56:43
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jul 6 2008, 07:40 PM) [snapback]472446[/snapback]
deja vu blush.gif

Hey Gibby-that 'womens trouble' you apparently suffer from -there's a cure which involves a little scripture, from the Gospel of St Luke, the Physician. Chapter 8/



43 And a woman having an issue of blood twelve years, which had spent all her living upon physicians, neither could be healed of any,

44 Came behind him, and touched the border of his garment: and immediately her issue of blood stanched.

45 And Jesus said, Who touched me? When all denied, Peter and they that were with him said, Master, the multitude throng thee and press thee, and sayest thou, Who touched me?

46 And Jesus said, Somebody hath touched me: for I perceive that virtue is gone out of me.

47 And when the woman saw that she was not hid, she came trembling, and falling down before him, she declared unto him before all the people for what cause she had touched him, and how she was healed immediately.

48 And he said unto her, Daughter, be of good comfort: thy faith hath made thee whole; go in peace.
mortonjag 2008-07-06 20:03:26
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jul 6 2008, 07:55 PM) [snapback]472453[/snapback]
Ok master. rolleyes.gif Are you all watching the final??

Yes my dear-my money was on Nadal, but seems the weather wins again!
mortonjag 2008-07-06 20:06:18
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 6 2008, 07:49 PM) [snapback]472451[/snapback]
Failing to spot red lights is a skill now?
Tell that to the polis on your next day oot. tongue.gif

In fairness to Ferrari, the BMW pit radio did forecast that it would be light drizzle for 5 minutes - if the track had dried the race would have been in the bag.
Comparing Kimi's position now to the massive deficit last year, he looks favourit - unless like last season the two competing team mates allow Hamilton this time to pinch it.
Doubt it'll happen though - Kimi's far more consistent so eventually Massa will have to be given a wee quiet word and play 2nd fiddle. sleep.gif

When do you sit your driving test?
mortonjag 2008-07-06 20:08:47
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jul 6 2008, 08:05 PM) [snapback]472463[/snapback]
It could go either way. I want Fedderer, Nadal keeps picking his arse. thumbdown.gif

That's rude and intrusive-if I was Federer I'd give him a smack.
mortonjag 2008-07-06 20:15:41
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jul 6 2008, 08:04 PM) [snapback]472460[/snapback]
MJ, i have no idea whatsoever what all that s*** means, and yes i class that as s***, religion is all a load of bumf as far as im concerned rolleyes.gif

You're just too much of a Filly Stein to bother trying to read, let alone understand it.

The poor woman had a gynaecological problem. All the quacks had failed to help. With immense and commendable faith, she furtively touched the hem of Jesus' robe, and was instantly healed.

Now Jesus' Daddy is available at Scapa of a Saturday afternoon. I just thought you could quietly sneak up behind him while he was checking his hair, and touch his jacket tail. He'd instantly know that virtue had gone out of him, but you needn't spill the beans.

There, and women like Loyal Lass and CHC could no longer laugh at you.
mortonjag 2008-07-06 20:21:53
QUOTE(Scotsguy40 @ Jul 6 2008, 08:10 PM) [snapback]472471[/snapback]
That Election Manifesto was a promise to this Nation of the things to come. How many of those promises have SNP came up with?

Cutting business rates ; Still waiting on mine being cut and don't see any difference.

Freezing Council Tax : They have put the bot into the electorates most vulnerable people. In years gone by we got two months off paying council tax with payments being due on the 28th of each month. With great stealth these payments where taken on the 1st of the month and most folk where caught short with working to their normal 28th day budget. So they couldnt pay and get hit with geez the full years money now or we'll add 10% to your bill. So those who are vulnerable get an extra 10% right up their hooter!

saving vital accident and emergency units: The manifesto promise said about the NHS Hospitals. "Yet many are under threat of closure. Adding extra travelling
time to the misery of long waiting times.
We have pledged to protect vital health services and halt the
planned closures of A&Es. An SNP government will give the
public a say in decisions on the future of local hospitals."

They used the political card and saved Ayr and Monklands. What about the Vale of Leven? What about the many others that are under threat of having services moved outwith local Communities? What happened to the public consultations? You have to make an appointment and when you do get to one you are ring fenced into groups and have to play by the top tables rules. They won't answer difficult questions. Why should the good folk and vulnerable of Inverclyde and other area's have to travel outwith their communites for treatment. Another empty promise due to mismanagement of funds.

recruiting 1000 more police officers : The biggest farce of them all. Spring 07 at the Scottish Police Federation Conf in Peebles AS makes the commitment of providing funding for 1000 extra cops. Once they get that single majority they try and shift the goalposts by saying they only meant 500 new cops and will release another 500 by getting some to stay on and not retire and by getting some away from desk jobs. The tories and SPF gave them pelters. So a quick Budget amendment at the last minute by Swinney to keep Alex from gettin a brass neck and they find the money for the 1000 cops.

Where did that money come from??? They've put back future funding projects for the NHS, Prisons and Transport. So thats why they are being quiet over the NHS reforms amongst other false projects.

I voted for this mob on the promises Sturgeon made. A year down the road all im getting is the odd pound saved when I go over the Forth Road Bridge.

TiD is spot on, if these people are failing we have THE right to voice concern. This patter they've only been in power for a year doesnt wash. Gordon Broon was pushing ahead in the Polls when he became PM and look at the state of him now.

Scotland's electorate are fed up listening to empty promises and if Alex and co don't get the finger oot it will be the last 4 years they'll have as the majority party.



Correct-Bawheid's lot never had the experience or maturity to step straight into power. The weans can maybe be excused for a wee bit of power crazed hype, but there is NO excuse for villain in chief-a trained economist and seasoned campaigner at Westminster.

Folk are beginning to see through him, and not before time.
mortonjag 2008-07-06 20:30:46
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jul 6 2008, 08:17 PM) [snapback]472475[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-07-06 20:32:18
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 6 2008, 08:07 PM) [snapback]472466[/snapback]
I don't.

Ah-you already have a full driving licence!
mortonjag 2008-07-06 20:34:13
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jul 6 2008, 08:09 PM) [snapback]472468[/snapback]
MON THE DUGS

Seriously though I think the Polis should use sniffer pigs.

That would cost the tax payer more money.
mortonjag 2008-07-06 20:36:37
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jul 6 2008, 08:09 PM) [snapback]472469[/snapback]
I think he has worms, its minging. rip.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-06 20:41:09
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jul 6 2008, 08:26 PM) [snapback]472478[/snapback]
Source tongue.gif

Shoogly? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-06 20:42:54
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 6 2008, 08:28 PM) [snapback]472479[/snapback]
BTT until the bold Scott answers! jerry.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-06 20:46:15
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jul 6 2008, 07:20 PM) [snapback]472433[/snapback]
That's the thing though - we do have a small squad, probably too small, but we don't have enough quality. It's not much better than last year, and yet another battle to avoid the playoff beckons with our current squad, provided Livingston strengthen.

It's definitely stronger and more purposeful.

Just a wee thought-this time last year over 75% of posters still had full confidence in JM's ability!
mortonjag 2008-07-06 20:49:16
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jul 6 2008, 08:07 PM) [snapback]472465[/snapback]
You will be in before me. Old boys club. ph34r.gif

Are you not eighteen already?
mortonjag 2008-07-06 20:52:31

FAO SPURTLE


And did those feet in ancient time,

Walk upon England’s mountains green:

And was the holy Lamb of God,

On England’s pleasant pastures seen!

And did the Countenance Divine,

Shine forth upon our clouded hills?

And was Jerusalem builded here,

Among these dark Satanic Mills?


Bring me my Bow of burning gold;

Bring me my Arrows of desire:

Bring me my Spear: O clouds unfold:

Bring me my Chariot of fire!

I will not cease from Mental Fight,

Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand,

Till we have built Jerusalem,

In England’s green & pleasant Land.

mortonjag 2008-07-06 20:55:34
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Jul 6 2008, 08:12 PM) [snapback]472472[/snapback]
Two questions:

Is Colkitto really not in here? & Who created cowshed warrior? It's like Col on acid.

Spurtle wants in but he was very cheeky to TiD today!
mortonjag 2008-07-06 20:57:43
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Jul 6 2008, 08:44 PM) [snapback]472488[/snapback]
From porn to finlayson in 15 posts. Genius.

There aren't many like me!


Have you ever tried humping a bald hedgehog?
mortonjag 2008-07-06 21:00:45
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Jul 6 2008, 08:47 PM) [snapback]472490[/snapback]
Tongue was wedged firmly in cheek.

So you ARE more of a tortoise than a hare after all!
mortonjag 2008-07-06 21:03:39
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jul 6 2008, 08:51 PM) [snapback]472492[/snapback]
Yes, but they are still not letting me in. I am not kissing any of their hairy arses though. excl.gif

That's disgraceful-the forum needs more feminine input-at the moment there's only Mrs Ton, some bloody agony aunt, and CHC!
mortonjag 2008-07-06 21:18:25
QUOTE(mortonjag @ Jul 5 2008, 10:07 AM) [snapback]471825[/snapback]
Yip-I fancy a wee double on Nadal and Lewis Hamilton.

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YES
mortonjag 2008-07-06 21:21:53
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jul 6 2008, 09:19 PM) [snapback]472507[/snapback]
Old scabby arse has won. rolleyes.gif

He wormed his way to the championship!
mortonjag 2008-07-06 21:24:59
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 6 2008, 09:20 PM) [snapback]472508[/snapback]
As long as you do likewise with your threads. happy.gif

Willy Man is older and wiser than thee.
mortonjag 2008-07-06 21:32:23
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jul 6 2008, 09:08 PM) [snapback]472501[/snapback]
hey hawd on im in there too - not posted yet though cos no doubt i will get ripped apart! lol

Don't be daft-you're man enough for the lot of them! Just mention that your hamster fell asleep at the wheel and leave the rest to me! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-06 22:05:26
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 6 2008, 09:34 PM) [snapback]472520[/snapback]
Princesston, calling me a hairy arsed f***ing w*nker is not going to get you in there any quicker.

Youth, eh?

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Obviously not complimentary enough!
mortonjag 2008-07-06 22:10:36
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 6 2008, 09:48 PM) [snapback]472530[/snapback]
Quite surprised a so called business man wouldn't know the business rates cut doesn't apply until April 2009. Then, 120,000 small businesses won't be paying business rates.
As for the Council Tax, try living in England where you will see a substancial rise in CT payments, we have a freeze here in Inverclyde. As for the payment dates, I had an option of paying 7th,14th,21st or 28th of each month, so I'm unsure what you are on about there.

As for the hospitals, Ayr and Monklands was saved. They would have been closed under a Labour government, simple as that.
As far as I'm aware the Vale of Leven hospital is still open. Why don't you contact the health board to find out what's happening with the local services ??


And as far as the police is concerned there will be 1000 new police officers. You are quite wrong to suggest otherwise.

So promises delivered I would say !

........and your point is? blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-06 22:16:41
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 6 2008, 09:53 PM) [snapback]472539[/snapback]
Yep, cutting wee boys' willies is barbaric.
Our politicians ban cutting dugs' tails and allow laddies' dicks to be chopped- mad.gif

That's true Mr Bam-it costs the taxpayer a small fortune to perform those operations safely every year 'on demand' from those who want it done for purely religious reasons. They COULD, of course, go 'private' laugh.gif

Because it's a sensible procedure from a preventive point of view (and to save the ritual barbarism of those Holy Willie choppers) those requests are invariably complied with.

When rape is inevitable-eh!
mortonjag 2008-07-06 22:24:30
QUOTE(dumbarTON @ Jul 6 2008, 10:18 PM) [snapback]472553[/snapback]
radiologists are doctors, radiographers (like me) are the ones you mean i would imagine tongue.gif

Indeed, but you're still one of the workers and not some po faced 'ward manager' promoted out of the nursing ranks and feebly attempting to justify her inflated salary by wandering around with a clip board and noting the number of dead fluorescent tubes she knows won't be replaced by direct labour until they're over 50%! mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-06 22:29:33
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 6 2008, 09:36 PM) [snapback]472521[/snapback]
Well if Lee Robinson's still in the frame then Gonet's still a possibility. sleep.gif
Schmeichel wouldn't lower himself to our level and besides, we couldn't afford any of his wages (requiring a very favourable loan deal).
I'm afraid SmithsTON's too cryptic for me: although I'm sure the Doctor wil be on here to get all precious about something else in a minute or two.

Smiffy's a bloody doctor too.

No wonder we clash!
mortonjag 2008-07-07 06:09:05
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 6 2008, 09:29 PM) [snapback]472515[/snapback]
As previously mentioned it would appear, IMO, that several posters on this thread hate the integrity of the club being questioned, No s*** Willowman !!!

It was a legitimate question and now we have the answer.

Some folk still ain't too happy that MJ has posed a question that has now been, at long last, officially answered by the club.

I genuinely believe that Mr Donald has good intentions and will become, if he ain't already, the new owner of GMFC.



QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 6 2008, 11:50 PM) [snapback]472592[/snapback]
Upon his and DDF's release from Sing-Sing for their crimes against Companies House I wish him the very best of luck.

Willy Man, what you said is spot on, as evidenced by the other quoted post.

It's good of fat boy to keep the pot boiling though-30,000 views will do me a power of good in the self aggrandisement stakes. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-07 06:23:00
QUOTE(dumbarTON @ Jul 6 2008, 10:28 PM) [snapback]472560[/snapback]
haha yes its the radiography equivalent of "your only a nurse" laugh.gif indeed, there are 5 managers directly above a senior 2 radiographer, I mean is there any need for that many ? they would be far better to invest money into training and recruiting more nurses, doctors, radiographers etc dry.gif but nooooooooo....... lets have more managers who just sit about all day deciding to reband us into different grades if the mood takes them.

I see wee Nickerless is addressing some big conference of the NHS tomorrow-that should be interesting.

I strongly suspect it will degenerate into a rammy over private involvement versus the Holy Cow fib that it can be self sufficient as things stand.

The NHS as we know it has no future without serious thinking on funding, and some radical changes in how patients contribute to the cost of treatment.

Oh that, and ripping out the wastage. Let's go back to playing and paying 'doctors and nurses'! blush.gif


....AND radiographers TOO!!!
mortonjag 2008-07-07 06:28:13
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 6 2008, 10:36 PM) [snapback]472566[/snapback]
Not really, he missed the redlight because he was shocked to find Kubica and Kimi ahead of him on track (Kimi was also catching Hamilton before the safety car).
Hamilton has the luck of Satan at times (see Monaco), but when it comes to it, he doesn't quite have the quality and composure in the crunch races. biggrin.gif

I have decided to call you Sparrot on account of your tireless capacity for soaking up and regurgitating as fact, the opinions of those older and wiser than yourself.
mortonjag 2008-07-07 06:41:51
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 6 2008, 11:07 PM) [snapback]472572[/snapback]
You are fully aware of the date of the implementation of the business rate cut but fail to mention it in your original post ?? blink.gif
If they don't implement it in April 2009 then you may have a point, to criticise them for not doing so in 2008 is basically ridiculous

Council Tax is frozen in Inverclyde, something that wouldn't have happened under the last administration and doesn't happen in Labour controlled England. As for the dates, why not ask the Labour controlled Inverclyde council ?

They have saved hospitals that were ear marked for closure, what hospitals have they closed ?


Police officers, 500 recruits already funded over the three-year spending review period, 300 more recruits by spring next year, rising by another 200 the following two years = 1000 new police officers.

None dry.gif -they kept open the ones which were logistically non viable. I hated the old Labour admin with a passion, but at least they had the baws to attempt some 'necessary evil'. Sturgeon's legacy so far is an embarrassment to anybody who knows anything about health care provision. ph34r.gif

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 6 2008, 11:20 PM) [snapback]472576[/snapback]
Four people questioning Salmonds achievements ? All of whom hate him with a passion and take any and every opportunity to try and criticise him. Thankfully you are all in a minority as his personal poll ratings are very high as is the SNP.

And for "the electorate , in their numbers, are seeing him for the self fulfilling obnoxious arse that he undoubtedly is." Can you supply any evidence whatsoever to back that claim up ?

And for the umpteenth time I'm not a member of the SNP. I vote SNP as they are the party most likely to get independence for Scotland. Plus I think they are the best political party around at the moment.

You, MJ and Davie (don't know Scotsguy's politics) are just into Independence "light" or Independence with a very small (i) I'm now convinced about that more than ever.

I'm fairly notching them up-eh Spurtle.....


Shoogly, JM, Mileson, Salmond, OH and I mustn't omit that daft tennis woman whose name I've already forgotten-the one whose son attended some flag day in Lunding recently! laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-07 07:10:20
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Jul 7 2008, 02:16 AM) [snapback]472607[/snapback]
An interesting footnote to this discussion. I found out this evening that the 21 year old man who was arrested and later released without charge regarding the horrific murder of two French research students is known to me.In my opinion he is both stupid enough and nasty enough to be capable of having commited this crime.He has been bitching about the keeker he says the polis gave him... laugh.gif

There is no justification for the Polis taking the law into their own hands and leaving evidence.
mortonjag 2008-07-07 07:21:15
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 6 2008, 09:51 PM) [snapback]472537[/snapback]
Shouldn't Andy Murray be in the fore front unsure.gif

Flush with 'failure', Mummy's bought him a big huge 'stars and stripes' for the next heist.
mortonjag 2008-07-07 07:28:10
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jul 6 2008, 09:30 PM) [snapback]472516[/snapback]
I'm not really, well kinda , Dak is a Buddhist and as I have no religion I have started to take on board some of her traditions and beliefs...........like watching top quality porno's for example

Then maybe you can answer a question-when the Chinese (mainly Confucians I believe) come over here, they often adopt a new name like James, Peter, or John.

Are Buddhists in favour of having Christian names too?

mortonjag 2008-07-07 07:33:05
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 6 2008, 10:06 PM) [snapback]472548[/snapback]
Well your good lady did say that 'size does matter' rolleyes.gif

I really feel quite sorry for the Big Willy brigade. It's no fun having to ram your tadger up an HGV exhaust when it's minus 10 C outside.
mortonjag 2008-07-07 07:36:13
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jul 6 2008, 11:27 PM) [snapback]472582[/snapback]
He's deid laugh.gif

Our thoughts are with the family!
mortonjag 2008-07-07 07:38:06
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 7 2008, 04:35 AM) [snapback]472610[/snapback]
He'll just spam f*** out of it. I vote no.

Maybe he'd rather be a spammer than a whale, fat boy.
mortonjag 2008-07-07 07:45:02
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jul 7 2008, 07:32 AM) [snapback]472628[/snapback]
This will be the same Daily Mail that supported Hitler then? A paper with no agenda against Muslims at all.
Thing is, only 50 years ago in Scotland priests would go round the houses of the folk who never made it to Mass.

Bang on the nail as always Mr McArthur, and no doubt kicked f*ck oot the Proddy c*nts too. ph34r.gif

QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 7 2008, 07:37 AM) [snapback]472633[/snapback]
Maybe the Teachers should be publicly flogged. Better still maybe, the Editor of the Daily Mail should be beheaded. laugh.gif

Maybe for once, Mr Edwards, you should consider the difference between tolerance and capitulation. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-07 08:01:29
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jul 7 2008, 07:36 AM) [snapback]472632[/snapback]
There was a big piece in the Sunday Herald about how the Orange Lodge feel they're completely misunderstood and they want a week long 'Orange Festival' (anyone else see a logical marketing partner here?) or Glastonbury for bigots.
They're going about it completely the wrong way. They should look at the recent examples of Trump and Souter and slip a few bob in donations. I'm sure a wee bit of legislation would come their way quickstyle.

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mortonjag 2008-07-07 08:05:03
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 7 2008, 07:50 AM) [snapback]472639[/snapback]
I know the difference alright. Do you know the difference between a Daily Mail editorial and a 'Carry On' film script?
You should know, you write them both don't you? Only maybe sometimes you confuse the two? biggrin.gif

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OH indeed- I can see the spin from both sides!

Was the story concocted?
mortonjag 2008-07-07 08:07:58
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 7 2008, 08:02 AM) [snapback]472641[/snapback]
In our present day, 'let's celebrate diversity' multi cultural society, an 'Orange Fest' might not be a problem. Just as long as the other lot had their shout as well with a 'Feenyin Fest' perhaps. As Dr Mentaljag says, I'm all for tolerance and understanding.

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I can't tolerate those orange c*nts, and couldn't begin to understand them. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-07 08:12:13
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 7 2008, 08:08 AM) [snapback]472644[/snapback]
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Infamy! Infamy! The Muslims have got it in for me!



I've taught the Monkey how to pray to God, Allah, and Shoogly. He's also well versed in the principles of Yogi and Boo Boo.
mortonjag 2008-07-07 08:19:30
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 6 2008, 09:18 AM) [snapback]472216[/snapback]
Enough of your insults. tongue.gif

You wouldn't recognise an insult if it landed on your chocolate brownie!

QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 7 2008, 07:33 AM) [snapback]472630[/snapback]
Bawheid's lot always talk a good game.
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You just cant help yourself can you? I think your her secret admirer! wub.gif laugh.gif

Wee Nickerless-och aye-I've nothing personal against the wee soul-in fact I wouldn't mind dipping my wick in her saltire sporran provided she'd had a recent shave and I was prepared thus: bag.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-07 08:28:05
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 7 2008, 07:30 AM) [snapback]472627[/snapback]
If I was ever to leave Scotland for good , which is unlikely, I would prefer to go to Canada or New Zealand.

It's impossible to turn back the clock. I sometimes wish I had emigrated when I was in my late twenties, and the opportunity presented. I DON'T see very much about our current British/Scottish society which fills me with any hope for a brighter future.

Probably just the grudging thoughts of a bitter old man who was brought up in a more principled, law abiding society.

I think I'll run away and join a Kibbutz-maybe Mr Edwards will come with me, and perhaps Mr Bam too.

We'd soon sort out the effin Orange Juice.
mortonjag 2008-07-07 08:32:27
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 7 2008, 08:25 AM) [snapback]472648[/snapback]
You're right. I'm too tolerant and understanding.

Don't you mean 'caring'? blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-07 08:34:23
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 7 2008, 08:17 AM) [snapback]472646[/snapback]
An unholy trinity? laugh.gif Surely that lot would fall out. There can only be one Chairman of the Board after all.

God help Allah and vice versa.
mortonjag 2008-07-07 08:48:29
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 7 2008, 08:40 AM) [snapback]472652[/snapback]
You've gone too far. Some might think I'm a Do-gooder in the PC brigade. But I don't give a feck. laugh.gif



I never REALLY thought you were.....em......pathetic!
mortonjag 2008-07-07 08:58:54
QUOTE(18-deano-ehm-74 @ Jul 7 2008, 08:46 AM) [snapback]472653[/snapback]
The only one of them I would keep is McGregor. He has battled his way through injuries to come back fitter and stronger. He can play as a full-back which makes him the only natural left-back in the squad. He can also play in the middle and with Laurel and Hardy missing the start of the season that could be helpful.

The best performance I've seen at left back in the last couple of seasons came from Dean Keenan. Alex Walker also put in a few reasonable shifts in that unnatural role.

Plenty has been said about DM's attitude, professionalism, and loyalty. Unfortunately those qualities do not compensate for his lack of speed at full back, lack of aerial ability at centre back, and lack of composure in midfield.

I reckon he's a good all round Pro, who I believe found his level in Division 2. Hopefully for David, I'll be proved wrong.
mortonjag 2008-07-07 09:09:57
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 7 2008, 08:56 AM) [snapback]472657[/snapback]
Very true I had the oppertunity early doors to migrate to Australia and had a change of heart at the last minute, but I dont spend any time wondering what if? its pointless!



Believe it or not, the thing that now gets me more than anything about Scotland is the weather. I'm one of those S.A.D. people who NEED sunshine. It seems to me that when I was a boy, summer was summer, and winter was winter. Today it's like bloody November, and no doubt we'll have June like days come October.

Sometimes I could greet! crying.gif crying.gif crying.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-07 10:04:21
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Jul 7 2008, 10:01 AM) [snapback]472692[/snapback]
We've only got his word for it! Probably walked ito a door.... happy.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-07 13:26:02
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 7 2008, 11:55 AM) [snapback]472729[/snapback]
Ah the Daily Mail...can guarantee a straight down-the-middle style of reporting there laugh.gif

Interesting to hear that you read the 'Mail'.

Which would be your recommended reading for totally unbiased reporting? mellow.gif

Oh-and WAS the story concocted?
mortonjag 2008-07-07 13:32:08 Head of parks Peter Wilkinson said the council had strong equality policies to protect the interests of all groups, irrespective of their sexuality.

"The general public are unhappy about people taking part in lewd behaviour in public spaces, whether it's between men and women or people of the same sex," he said.




To be honest, I'm less concerned about poofters shagging than I am about Polis sniffer dogs having to wear plastic bootees! laugh.gif

What INDEED, is our world coming to? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-07 13:37:32
QUOTE(RadolfZitler @ Jul 7 2008, 11:31 AM) [snapback]472722[/snapback]
Very true all people in favour of independence have to stick together on that issue. The only one party capable of delivering independence is the SNP. I am not a member nor do i agree with them on all issues in the same way i will never agree with any political party on all issues but i would rather argue that in an independent Scotland.

On this issue of the SNP and Salmond being shown up i can accept that from MentalJag he obviously needs his medication increased but some others should have a good look at themsleves when they claim to be in favour of Scots Independence. The best weapon for the unionists is for us all to argue.

Its quite funny MJ 2 weeks ago the unionists were saying support for independence was only 19% some rise in a few weeks must be a revolution.



Mortonjag has no interest in the Unionists-Mortonjag quoted the results of a respected independent laugh.gif poll.

Mortonjag's medication is a matter for Mortonjag.

Bawheid is an embarrassment to our Nation-and a BALLOON to boot.
mortonjag 2008-07-07 15:33:51
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jul 7 2008, 02:10 PM) [snapback]472809[/snapback]
Away and lie in your piss. And it's Jessie.

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mortonjag 2008-07-07 15:38:22
QUOTE(tontastic @ Jul 7 2008, 01:41 PM) [snapback]472777[/snapback]
Suggestion is the author is Peter Oborne (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Oborne ). Interesting analysis on one of his previous stories here http://bb.nsmb.com/showthread.php?t=112799. Amazing how a little spin or plausible explanation can make or break a story. Those without an agenda are left wondering what really happened.

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You'll need to introduce me to them, my good chap! dry.gif

QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 7 2008, 02:56 PM) [snapback]472839[/snapback]
I would worry about that.
There's lots of good teachers about, but there are some imcompetent ones too.

I will be interested to see how this plays out.

Indeed it will Mr Bam-I'd imagine it's the work of some evil infiltrative Christian extremist group. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-07 15:43:04
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jul 7 2008, 02:59 PM) [snapback]472841[/snapback]
The thing comes up saying password, as i said i'm not daft.

If the truth were told Princess, I suspect that the Mods think you're just too nice and sweet to be exposed to some of the stuff the Jessie boys are up to.
I don't necessarily agree! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-07 15:53:08
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 7 2008, 03:19 PM) [snapback]472852[/snapback]
Greacen2000 did the board a fine service by starting the ball rolling, as it were. Your contribution has mainly been fantasising about the (non-existent) jail time awaiting DDF. In this sense you are correct - your self-aggrandisement continues apace.

If only you knew the truth about that Augustus, you'd have even more egg all over your chubby chops, but keep them coming-we're almost at the 30,000. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


Give my love to JR if you see him BTW!
mortonjag 2008-07-07 15:57:12 Well Bawheid seems to think 16-18 year olds will vote for him-hmm-maybe our Mods are right after all! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-07 16:02:09
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 7 2008, 01:56 PM) [snapback]472787[/snapback]
Actually...it says on the posters for a film it is for over 18s...but also the last thing you see before the film starts is the BBFC certificate showing it is 18 +

...kinda the same wink.gif happy.gif

Would that be 'actually', as in 'really', 'definitely', 'positively', 'indubitably' an' fingz?
mortonjag 2008-07-07 16:10:31
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 7 2008, 03:59 PM) [snapback]472880[/snapback]
You hinted at "the truth" before as you scrambled desperately up the sunny slopes of Mount Credit-Taking.

In one particularly hilarious post you even rewrote history to suggest that it was you, and only you, who had uncovered the shocking truth that will rock the criminal justice system of this country to its core biggrin.gif

Anyway, I'm sure you'l be in touch with your friends in the tabloid press who can see to it that justice is served, right after they're finished dealing with the Stan Webster debacle.

Or was that a hollow threat as well? biggrin.gif

That's the 30,000 up Augustus, and well over 600 posts. The self aggrandisement's coming on in leaps and bounds.

It's just fascinating what one can achieve by telling tall tales-EH?

Have another burger on me. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-07 16:34:03
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 7 2008, 04:14 PM) [snapback]472888[/snapback]
I know, and I'm fine with being an accessory thereof.

Excellent-we'll be at 35,000 before we know it then!

The point is that you didn't tell or reveal anything. Others did. As always.

The point is Augustus, that others know the truth, and it's quite amusing that they are happy to let you have your 'day in the sun'. Mortonjag, of course, could reveal his sources, and those who were fed information by him, but, as always, Mortonjag has a strong sense of confidentiality. smile.gif


As a doctor you should surely be recommending more wholesome foodstuffs than a burger!


As a mere layman, you shouldn't be telling a doctor what to recommend for folk who like stuffing their faces. Mortonjag is a kind person, and the truth can be hurtful.
mortonjag 2008-07-07 17:23:32
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 7 2008, 04:42 PM) [snapback]472899[/snapback]
CODE
MEMEMEMEMEMEMEEEEE




You really are crying out for attention. Texas is a BIG place-maybe you just need a wee 'There, there'!

Mortonjag LOVES being the centre of attraction-everybody knows that. bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif

It's very sad that an uninformed little nobody is attempting to bask in Mortonjag's limelight.

It's even sadder that an uninformed little nobody presumes to make inaccurate and libellous statements about Mortonjag. dry.gif

Sad, that is, for the uninformed little nobody, whose chubby cheeks are now literally dripping with egg yolk! laugh.gif laugh.gif



............but keep them coming sonny, your spade is getting shinier by the minute, and the deeper your hole becomes, the more Mortonjag's self aggrandisement bandwagon rolls on. wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-07 17:28:23 Kidman.


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mortonjag 2008-07-07 18:14:56
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 7 2008, 05:34 PM) [snapback]472935[/snapback]
lol libellous

Will you be greetin' to the papers about libel as well? biggrin.gif




Yes Nach0-that WAS the term I used and as an ex Moderator you should perhaps exercise a wee bit more care before publicising retrievable material.


li·bel
–noun
1. Law.
a. defamation by written or printed words, pictures, or in any form other than by spoken words or gestures.
b. the act or crime of publishing it.
c. a formal written declaration or statement, as one containing the allegations of a plaintiff or the grounds of a charge.
2. anything that is defamatory or that maliciously or damagingly misrepresents




Greacen2000 did the board a fine service by starting the ball rolling, as it were. Your contribution has mainly been fantasising




You hinted at "the truth" before as you scrambled desperately up the sunny slopes of Mount Credit-Taking.

In one particularly hilarious post you even rewrote history


The point is that you didn't tell or reveal anything. Others did. As always
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The truth is that I DON'T speculate. Everything I have claimed about this particular issue can be proved-much of it by dated documentary evidence.


There is no question of my taking a civil action against you-that is risible-but you ARE guilty of libellous comments made in an attempt to discredit me. It is quite as simple as that.


It would do your credibility no end of good if you could see fit to retract the highlighted statements-with or without an apology.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 06:09:25
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 7 2008, 06:22 PM) [snapback]472960[/snapback]
... or which other people have claimed and you've taken credit for - a legal grey area to be sure.

Not only am I neither going to offer a retraction nor an apology, but I am also going to speculate that you may just be teetering on the brink of the deep end here.

I eaglery await the extradition order. biggrin.gif

Vulturely?

QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 7 2008, 06:26 PM) [snapback]472961[/snapback]
Grow up MJ, people are allowed to disagree with you.

Libellous comments do not equate to disagreement.

QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 7 2008, 06:28 PM) [snapback]472963[/snapback]
Only if you're over a certain age, have a full clean driving licence and an incessant urge to spank "wee pink botties".

Correct SPARROT, and don't you forget it son.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 06:13:39
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 7 2008, 06:22 PM) [snapback]472960[/snapback]
... or which other people have claimed and you've taken credit for - a legal grey area to be sure.

Not only am I neither going to offer a retraction nor an apology, but I am also going to speculate that you may just be teetering on the brink of the deep end here.

I eaglery await the extradition order. biggrin.gif

Just you leave the speculation to me son and stick to the truth. You've made a big enough arse of yourself already.

I've had a chat with Greacen and some other adults in the last twelve hours. The common advice appears to be that you're 'not worth it'.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 06:27:25
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 7 2008, 10:15 PM) [snapback]473153[/snapback]
Threave Rovers 0 Morton 9
This was a much a stroll in the park for Morton as the score suggests. Threave Rovers had no answer to Morton, particularly in the first half when more or less the first team was on the park. This included trialist Graham Smith from Rangers (another 6 footer!) at left back and the initial line up was:

Stewart
Weatherson McManus Trialist (Graham Smith)
Finlayson McGuffie Masterton Paartalu McAllister
Wake Russell


Threave held out against the odds for 13 minutes until Wake opened the scoring. He went on to score a hat trick before half time. In between, Russell got one and had another knocked off for offside when he was on and Wake who was not interfering with play was off. Russell could also have had a hat trick by half time if he had put away a couple of his numerous one on ones with the keeper. MCAllister made it five just on half time.

Its hard to take much from a match against this quality of opposition but the whole team looked up for it and there was a good spirit about them. McManus was seldom troubled at centre back, if a bit lacking in pace and Stewart did’nt have a save to make. Paartalu was excellent as the main midfield ball winner and Masterton ran things. Passing was generally excellent.

In the second half Stevenson and Newby replaced McGuffie and Russell. Within 5 minutes Newby had made it 6 with a close in effort. The subs now came thick and fast with Graham, Lee Mitchell, Lee Kerrigan and a mysterious number 22 replacing Finlayson, Paartalu, McAllister and Wake. Before he went off Paartalu scored the goal of the game with a 30 yard dipper. Newby scored after a scramble and Masterton completed the scoring with a beautifully placed shot curled just inside the keeper’s right hand post. Graham contrived to fire one over from 3yards out and then hit the bar with a cracking shot from just outside the box.

An encouraging fact was the display by Stevenson when he came on. He sprayed the passes about and showed a decent attitude. Maybe there’s hope there yet! Also excellent was Graham Smith's display at the back. He is certainly worth another look.

This was a decent run out for the team against very poor opposition who have their keeper to thank for it not being a cricket score �“ he had at least 6-8 great saves. I think that the next two games against Tow Law and Durham City may be a sterner test.

Edited to say: Second half we had Carlisle reserve keeper Adam somebody on. Looked OK if a bit small for a keeper.

Thanks for the report.

Obviously just a warm up/stroll in the park, and don't think we should take too much from it. I see the Ayr game as perhaps being the first chance we have to assess how much better we've got.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 06:45:11
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 7 2008, 09:06 PM) [snapback]473083[/snapback]
BUMP!

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QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 7 2008, 11:58 PM) [snapback]473205[/snapback]
BUMP!

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Scott Gillan, your public awaits you! ph34r.gif




Oh don't it hurt deep inside
To see someone do something to her
Oh don't it pain to see someone cry
How especially if that someone is her

Silence is golden, but my eyes still see
Silence is golden, golden, but my eyes still see

Talking is cheap people follow like sheep
Even though there is no where to go
How could she tell he decieved her so well
Pity she'll be the last one to know

How many times will she fall for his lines
Should I tell her or should I be cool
And if I tried I know she'd say I lied
Mind your business don't hurt her you fool

Silence is golden, but my eyes still see
Silence is golden, golden, but my eyes still see
mortonjag 2008-07-08 06:53:10
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jul 7 2008, 04:47 PM) [snapback]472907[/snapback]
The subject of homosexuality gets discussed constantly on here by *cough* 'straight men'. I've got a few gay friends and they never talk about straight people shagging. In fact I've very rarely heard them talking about shagging at all.

Standard homophobe cop out! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-08 07:02:54
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 7 2008, 09:20 PM) [snapback]473102[/snapback]
I don't think he's a moron. I do think he's a pompous, arrogant, self-opinionated, plagiarising little fanny though.

That's my

SPARROT



Half sponge, half parrot, and destined to get his c*nt kicked in as soon as he's old enough to drink with the big boys. wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-08 07:06:40
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Jul 7 2008, 11:15 PM) [snapback]473200[/snapback]
It used to be Maggie now it's just every other t*** on the telly.... mad.gif

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At the moment mine's got to be Margaret Curran-and she hasn't even started! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-08 07:09:49
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 7 2008, 05:14 PM) [snapback]472920[/snapback]
Breaking News - nobody cares.

What a cryptic comment SPARROT.

Is it the title of a new dirge you're penning as an autobiogaphy?
mortonjag 2008-07-08 07:13:44
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 7 2008, 05:41 PM) [snapback]472942[/snapback]
Nope but I see no reason why I'd want to.

Good shout SPARROT-you're MUCH safer here.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 07:18:57
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Jul 7 2008, 03:50 PM) [snapback]472874[/snapback]
Hello Mr Jag, just joined the board. I am related to someone on here, can you guess who??

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mortonjag 2008-07-08 07:22:49
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jul 8 2008, 12:20 AM) [snapback]473222[/snapback]
Do not ever and i mean ever class me in that way, i canny stand the b*****ds




Sorry Mr Gillan Gibby!
mortonjag 2008-07-08 07:25:46
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 7 2008, 09:48 PM) [snapback]473131[/snapback]
What's the point of this Forum if we just let anyone in with all due respect to Deego, who I think is pretty much alright now.

The content on here is clearly of an 18+ nature and I'd be well pissed off if any of my daughters were posting on here and they were allowed to view such content.

I was even going to suggest they raise the age limit to 21 after some of the stuff, now of which I am offended or bothered by, that has been posted.

I was going to suggest 25! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-08 07:36:40
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 8 2008, 01:01 AM) [snapback]473262[/snapback]
No...as in 'actually'.

To be honest, at this moment in time it's my personal opinion that you may be correct, actually.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 08:14:46 I noticed that wee SPARROT was getting his rocks off about last night's Channel 4 dispatches. Fortunately he can't regurgitate from his big books on this very mature and select oracle.

Interestingly, I read an article in yesterdays Sun (aye folks ph34r.gif ) by Trevor Kavanagh, who is a buddy of last night's presenter, entitled 'Islamophobia, or cold hard truth'?

Unsurprisingly, I found myself agreeing with most of Kavanagh's splurge, and his final paragraph about Gina Khan, the brave and outspoken Muslim journalist reads---


'Is she Islamophobic too-or is she a lonely voice on behalf of millions of women who are being ignored and gagged by a politically correct establishment which is too timid to face the truth?'


He also quotes Syrian born Dr Wafa Sultan---'Only the Muslims defend their beliefs by killing people, burning churches, and bombing embassies'.

Islam is a religion-misgivings about Islam cannot be construed as racist. Islam appears determined to impose itself on the Western world wherever, and whenever it has the opportunity.

I find it puzzling that so many 'ordinary' folk seem not only content to let that happen, but see fit to ridicule others who are are perhaps less beholden to knee jerking 'political correctness'.

My Dad was an extremely gentle and almost painfully non judgemental man. In the latter years of his life he commented to me on several occasions that his 'biggest fear for the future' was what he described as 'Fundamental Islam'. My Dad was a highly intelligent man and a deep thinker, and he rarely seemed to get things wrong except when he was trying to cook!

So, I pose Kavanagh's question here. Islamophobia---or cold hard truth?


mortonjag 2008-07-08 09:00:10
QUOTE(marxist_ton @ Jul 8 2008, 08:43 AM) [snapback]473334[/snapback]
Islamophobia.

Being against someone because of their religion isn't regarded as racism oubviously. I am against Scientology, but not racist. However, you would have to be an absolute fool if you didn't think that the colour of a muslims skin had anything to do with it.

The kind of people that are 'afraid' of Islam are so because the media tells them to be. I know that sounds paranoid to bugger, but it's a fact - fear sells newspapers and makes people tune into news programmes.

When going on an aeroplane a good friend of mine told me how he cried as his dad and uncles were forced into a tiny cell and asked all sorts of questions as they were believed to be terrorists. This wasn't yesterday on a plane to Pakistan, but in the 1990s, going to Dublin as my mates family are catholic. It has happened before and have proved, on the most part, fruitless. Not every catholic is an IRA bomber.

But although catholics were considered foreign, they are still white, so it wasn't quite as bad for them as it is now for our muslim population.



You reckon white Catholics were considered 'foreign' in the nineties.

I worked in a white RC Practice in Coatbridge throughout the seventies, and I can state categorically that if anybody was considered 'foreign' I was, because I wasn't a practising Catholic.

Mind you almost everybody was white, and at least nominally Christian.

We had a few Muslim patients-almost all shopkeepers or their familes. I did notice they were brown, and the ladies wore 'the gear', but I was never conscious of them trying to force anything on me except prescriptions for 'big' bottles of Benylin and so on-just like their white contemporaries did.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 09:20:40
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 8 2008, 07:09 AM) [snapback]473315[/snapback]
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At the moment mine's got to be Margaret Curran-and she hasn't even started! ph34r.gif
[/quote Damn I missed her off my list, consider yourself added misses Curran!


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QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 8 2008, 07:18 AM) [snapback]473319[/snapback]
Maybe not. I hear that Alex Salmond likes them too.




I always thought they were a pair of tartan pouffes.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 10:29:01
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jul 8 2008, 10:10 AM) [snapback]473355[/snapback]
Don't know. A mistake if it's true.

Want to be the complete class clipe and give us the name so we can remove them ?
Or did you just want another moan about why you're not allowed in, despite being told umpteen times it's because of the rules of the forum which state over 18's only.

As for your very last post ..... in order,

1) People are only talking about you in there because someone asked could we make an exception for you
2) the answer was no based on the under 18 rule.
3) I haven't even replied to the thread in question - Edinton, Tontastic, BH and myself had long conversations about whether there should be an age limit - bottom line is that there is - we ain't changing it - for matters legal and for lots of other reasons - some of which are best demonstrated in these 15 pages !
4) telling tales about another under 18 who has mistakenly made it in, AND calling us b*****ds does absolutely hee-haw to enhance your chances of getting in, and indeed I am now firmly in the "no" camp, when I was coming around to the gentle persuasions of others to have a rethink.
5) Well done - result for yourself.

TonInDublin

ps. yeah I know point 6 will be for me to poke the forum up my arse - way ahead of you, spare the typing.



I can suggest many nicer things starting with my wil..oops wrong forum!
mortonjag 2008-07-08 10:40:05
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 8 2008, 10:03 AM) [snapback]473352[/snapback]
Their one and only fan! lol! biggrin.gif
Not at all, the lyrical cadences in "Nobody's Child" reveal a total understanding of the dark depths of the human soul whilst the wailing and utterly heartwrenching chordal structures of the music were perfectly in tune with the 60's zeitgeist.
Tom and Jack's oeuvre will never be challenged for it's understanding of the duality of human existence.

...though they were undoubtedly less umbilically cordial than Fran and Anna.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 10:48:01
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jul 8 2008, 10:03 AM) [snapback]473353[/snapback]
Erm, not it's not. I do have a few gay friends. Not many but a few. And I'm not claiming anything, just stating a fact.

You were spotted yesterday sitting beside a brown pouffe.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 10:56:33
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jul 8 2008, 10:42 AM) [snapback]473375[/snapback]
Did anyone else ever wonder if they did the odd bit of drinking from the furry cup ? Or was it just me ?

TonInDublin

Possibly-they were Coatbridge sisters-never married-and used to drive to gigs in their full highland gear! Apparently a pair of homely wee souls too.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 12:29:27 Coatbridge legend Anna 'delighted' with messages of support

May 14 2008 Airdrie & Coatbridge Advertiser

SHOWBIZ friends and the Monklands public have been sending cards and flowers to Anna – the surviving half of Coatbridge variety act legends Fran and Anna.

The 83–year–old trouper is being cared for at St Andrew’s Hospice although her illness is not believed to be life-threatening.

Bubbly Anna and sister Fran – who died five years ago – entertained fans around the globe in a long career on the stage and TV.

And she is now said to be delighted at the many messages of support and kind words that have been passed on as she receives expert care in the Airdrie hospice.

One source close to the family told the Advertiser: “Anna was taken into St Andrew’s Hospice a couple of weeks ago but it was not because she is terminally ill.

“She is in really good spirits and has been delighted by the many cards she has received from well-wishers. She has had plenty of visitors and has been sitting chatting away about old times.”

A spokesman for St Andrew’s Hospice told us that it was their policy not to comment on individual patients but confirmed that they do care for patients with a range of needs.

He said: “While the majority of patients require specialist end–of–life care, others come to the hospice for respite and longer term care.”

The Advertiser believes that Anna is responding well to the caring environment of the hospice and the large number of cards and letters of support she has received from across Scotland.

Fran and Anna’s career in show business started out when they were children and followed in the footsteps of their entertainer father.

Their long career reached its peak in the 1970s when they became household names after regular appearances on STV’s ‘Thingummyjig’ show.

As stalwarts of the Scottish variety scene for around 70 years, their brand of light entertainment included singing traditional and modern songs.

Their trademark costumes, including tartan miniskirts and bonnets, were instantly recognisable.

Fran and Anna, who were managed by sister Lily until her death in 1998, performed with all of the top names in British variety.

Showbiz pals Sir Terry Wogan and Johnnie Beattie were among those who paid tribute to the tartan duo and wished Anna “all the best




I believe she died a wee while later.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 12:39:22
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jul 8 2008, 12:33 PM) [snapback]473423[/snapback]
No problem at all Mr McB. I don't have any black friends yet. Does mixed race count?
We threw out our brown pouffe last week.

My old pouffes have always been made welcome by 'Children in Need'.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 12:44:33 A Tory MP in Barrowfield is almost as ludicrous as Bawheid trying to look sincere.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 12:53:29 I came across some funny (genuine) names including (Philomena) Phil McCracken, Shona Legge, and Isa Cumming.

Less suggestive but equally memorable were George Street and Willie Black.

There are dozens more, and of course you can make them up as you go. I'm assured, BTW that Pocahontas McGinty indeed exists and has a brother called Elvis.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 13:11:52
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jul 8 2008, 01:08 PM) [snapback]473439[/snapback]
I remember winding up my family when the wee fella was born as I told them we were going to call him Sterling tongue.gif

John Long
mortonjag 2008-07-08 13:14:54
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jul 8 2008, 12:51 PM) [snapback]473432[/snapback]
Was it a National day of mourning .
raise your glass of sugarally watur .

is their memory .

The thingamyjig dancers will be reeling at half pace

Indeed many wallies would have been waggling!
mortonjag 2008-07-08 13:17:33 Birching IS a feasible answer.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 13:20:27
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jul 8 2008, 01:13 PM) [snapback]473445[/snapback]
id sum the the new forum up as: more than you ever wanted to know about the sex lifes of your fellow posters

You are far too generous.

More like the sexual fantasies of a few frustrated wee boys plus Mortonjag's love for dead hedgehogs.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 13:34:58
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jul 8 2008, 01:22 PM) [snapback]473451[/snapback]
annette curtain - another one i have heard of and been assured it is real and bridie pye, another one im assured on

If you are one of the Fitz's, you don't have a chance

William Fitzpatrick and Patrick Fitzwilliam etc.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 13:38:52
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Jul 8 2008, 01:27 PM) [snapback]473454[/snapback]
NA...that bawbag only agreed terms as far as I remember...was about to put pen to paper when-thankfully-he fooked off to dungfee. We were ABOUT to sign him up to that point...

That's correct Mr Rae and Gillian had made a 'gentleman's agreement laugh.gif with Sturm and his agent, having paid all the expenses for his trial with Morton.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 13:43:04
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 8 2008, 01:39 PM) [snapback]473462[/snapback]
I think its a myth that Cuthbert is all that good, he's never been able to hold onto the first choice place at St Johnstone in about 8 years. I think he's had one season as first choice, and after that he was replaced by an ever ageing Alan Main who is quite frankly terrible everytime ive seen him in the last 3 or 4 years.

St Johnstone fans certainly weren't sad to see him go, i'd say he's just another young prospect who never quite realised his potential and St Johnstone realised it was time to give up on him.



I'd much rather see us sign an 'over the hill' SPL player like Main was/is.

The one position we still MUST fill is goalie--FFS please get it right this time. We've not had an outstanding keeper in the whole time Shoogly's been manager.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 13:48:32
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jul 8 2008, 01:44 PM) [snapback]473467[/snapback]
C'mon wait for it
It's coming
Pull yourself together.
I know coat is on.

For that I shall call you a velvet pouffe.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 13:50:30 Donkey Dave's daughter in law Rhoda Mair.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 14:01:15
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 8 2008, 01:45 PM) [snapback]473469[/snapback]
one thing about Castle Douglas though, their cars dont stop when you're crossing the road. Me and Deego both almost got ran over at different times. Also while eating a sausage supper one of the locals came out the pub and went " that fish looks good " which scared us.

we also saw someone who literally looked about 12-14 driving a car, me and Deego just looked at each other like " mellow.gif did you just see that? "

Not to mention the 70 year old linesman who kept talking to himself during the game, including when Morton were attacking near the end he just randomly shouted " IM SORRY ".
crazy crazy people.

Oh I'm sure thae Good people of Castle DOUGLAS found you lot every bit as queer as you found them.

I've warned you before about Deego's 'sausage suppers'-no wonder the poor local thought you were eating fish-those country folk have an excellent sense of smell.

And as for your horrid comments about my wee brother-just wait until you're his age-that was probably the most important game he's ever done last night, and you mock him for being sad at only having taken it up at 67. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-08 14:05:15
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jul 8 2008, 01:48 PM) [snapback]473471[/snapback]
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There is NO way out of that genuine slip! bag.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-08 14:16:11
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Jul 8 2008, 02:03 PM) [snapback]473485[/snapback]
In times gone by you might have found yourself in the company of bedbugs! As you settled down for the night out they'd come,looking for BLOOD! After sucking you dry they would depart and around this time you get a reaction to their bite and start scratching... unsure.gif

I believe they're making a bit of a comeback too..

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I've also heard of one's bed referred to as a 'flea pit', or more commonly nowadays just 'yer pit'.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 14:20:34
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 8 2008, 02:09 PM) [snapback]473491[/snapback]
laugh.gif we actually said at one point, i bet the linesman is Mortonjag tongue.gif

Well you shoudn't have.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 14:30:02
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jul 8 2008, 02:15 PM) [snapback]473494[/snapback]
Christianity can cover about 1000 (at the last count) religions who claim to have the teachings of Christ and The Bible at their core - if you subscribe to the theory that Christianity is a religion.

I would define Christianity (and therefore keep it seperate from religion) as system of beliefs and practices, founded on faith, and based on the education and teachings of Jesus and the Bible.

So whats the difference ? Let me try an example. I was born a Protestant and attended chuch regularly till I hit about 20. I now worship in a Catholic church here in Ireland and don't see myself as a hypocrite. I don't judge between the two religions because at their heart they are based on Christian beliefs. I took Communion in the Church in Scotland and I take it in the Catholic church in Ireland. I'm sure Jesus will forgive my foibles when he decides it's time to call my number. I try and live my life through respect of others, trying to love and be loved, and attempting to treat everyone I meet with dignity, friendship and respect. The fact that I fail miserably sometimes is a measure of my fallibility, but it doesn't stop me trying to learn from my mistakes, treat each individual on their merits and live and let live. I believe that the Bible is a very good barometer for each man to treat his fellow men, and its teachings are as valid now as they were when it was written.

Indeed, for the Theologians amongst you, there is a strong argument that Jesus actually outlawed religion.

I see Christianity as way more than a badge I wear, or a side I take, or a battle line I draw.
It's about how I think life should be lived, and a set of morals and ideals that are relevant in todays world.

I can't be arsed googling for it - but The Regnal Principles are what I tend to focus on - I was a member of the Regnal in Scotland, and sadly fell away from it as my own relationships changed in those days. But it's something I always look back on with regret. If someone wants to do the needful and post the link it'd be a good education for others maybe.

So I absolutely differentiate Christianity from religion. And when or if you can yourself, I think you see things a wee bit differently.

Maybe just me though.

TonInDublin





Christianity had its Crusades against the 'infidel'. Is Islam just getting its own back?
mortonjag 2008-07-08 14:45:42
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jul 8 2008, 02:39 PM) [snapback]473520[/snapback]
no numpty... the christains were the ' infidels' in the crusades... and muslims still refer to christains as such today...

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Infidel (literally "one without faith") is an English word meaning "one who doubts or rejects central tenets of a religion or has no religious beliefs", especially in reference to Christianity or Islam.[1][2][3][4][5]

In Christianity the term was traditionally used by the Roman Catholic Church to refer to one who did not believe in the divinity of Jesus, knowingly held beliefs that contradicted Catholic dogma, or one who had not been baptized,[6][7] or by Christians in general to describe non-Christians or those perceived as enemies of Christianity, including Muslims.[4][8] Current English speaking Catholic ecclesiastical usage however distinguishes between non-Christians and non-believers (persons without religious affiliations or beliefs)

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mortonjag 2008-07-08 14:50:22
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 8 2008, 02:33 PM) [snapback]473514[/snapback]
it was your wrist action with that flag, we'd both seen that wrist action before.

Pair of tossers.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 14:53:48
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 8 2008, 02:40 PM) [snapback]473521[/snapback]
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I'm afraid our social spheres are bound never to merge, in a Venn diagram stylee. sleep.gif

Have your social spheres got any hair on yet son?
mortonjag 2008-07-08 14:58:49
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 8 2008, 02:45 PM) [snapback]473524[/snapback]
O look, he's learned how to use crayons.
Give the wean a high five.

Now, now, there's no need to be silly. You know why you were christened SPARROT, and the name will stick.

The big boys are having a superbly mature debate about Islamophobia on the new forum BTW-only four years to go and you can let rip to your heart's content.

.....and you know something-not one of them has called another silly names yet SPARROT!
mortonjag 2008-07-08 15:05:50
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jul 8 2008, 02:58 PM) [snapback]473538[/snapback]
I've never seen as much cheap nylon since Upaclose last went shopping for troosers. Their gussets must have been permanently howling. Bet you could have wrung out their Jimmy Durantes after a show. And there must have been some bang off their trotters as well.

TonInDublin



It's a well documented fact that they got dressed for their gigs in their bedroom at home, and drove to the venue. One night I was heading East into Coatbridge, and had to stop at the main traffic lights at Bargeddie. I glanced over and facing me were Fran and Anna, in their motor- COMPLETE WITH THE BUNNETS ON.

I didn't know at that point that they lived in Coatbridge, until I checked with my colleagues the following day! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-08 15:15:46
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Jul 8 2008, 03:07 PM) [snapback]473550[/snapback]
Was it Halloween by any chance? wink.gif



You might well have imagined so, but I recall it was early evening and still light.

I read Anna's obituary-quite an extensive spiel from somebody who had known the sisters well, and that confirmed (I'd occasionally doubted myself ) that indeed they always went to gigs fully prepared, which brings us to TiD's question, and that of how often (if EVER) they actually undressed! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-08 15:20:35
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Jul 8 2008, 02:56 PM) [snapback]473535[/snapback]
Why do people keep bringing this up to the top. I'm not sure that is a fair thing to do.

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mortonjag 2008-07-08 15:25:38
QUOTE(irvineTON @ Jul 8 2008, 03:19 PM) [snapback]473571[/snapback]
Morecambe fans have a Jon Newby bebo appreciation page & I asked if he was any good on it. A Burton Albion fan states that Nigel Clough has given an interview stating that Newby has signed for them as he doesn't want to move his family up North! ohmy.gif
Whats goin on? Has he signed or not?

Maybe this is the Positive Double Donald syndrome and he's signed TWICE by mistake.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 15:37:35
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jul 8 2008, 03:25 PM) [snapback]473578[/snapback]
Can't be qualified because everyone knows the linesman and refs are never wrong aka Hamilton. laugh.gif



You misunderstand-he kept saying 'SAW RAE, SAW RAE'.Those bumpkins rarely get a peep at celebrities.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 15:40:04
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 8 2008, 03:32 PM) [snapback]473585[/snapback]
Because I want to be in a protected forum, so, er, I can swear uncensored. blink.gif
You really think this forum is the crux of my life, acting as the same crutch mechanism as it does for you, don't you?

SPARROT-could you do that again in plain English please? wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-08 15:54:19
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jul 8 2008, 03:24 PM) [snapback]473577[/snapback]
sorry....got it wrong.. you were right mj, I now know what it feels like to be trick or bawheid....

No NO-you got it right too-the problem is that those films you watch don't have subtitles, so the guys fighting the Christians call them 'infidels' instead of saying.......


مقبوضہ کشمیر:غلام نبی آزاد مستعفی،گورنر راج نافذ
» موجودہ حکومت اور مشرف دور میں کوئی فرق نہیں:عمران خان
» امریکی سفیر,اسفند یار ملاقات,فاٹا آپریشن پر تبادلہ خیال
mortonjag 2008-07-08 15:59:32
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 8 2008, 03:42 PM) [snapback]473593[/snapback]
I could but I've elected not to.

Credit where due-you are a quick learner SPARROT damn that Monkey-he's off with my pink crayon.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 16:26:01
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 8 2008, 04:11 PM) [snapback]473616[/snapback]
Suckers....

HAHAHA-is this you Spurtle-I've been expecting you-altogether now

MARGARET CURRAN IS A C*NT, MARGARET CURRAN IS A C*NT, MARGARET CURRAN IS A C*NT!


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mortonjag 2008-07-08 16:33:04
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 8 2008, 04:11 PM) [snapback]473615[/snapback]
Like cheese?
The two are not connected, the second statement attests to the general Jessiness of your character. happy.gif

ETA, respect to you for going out with a branny burd though, or were the beer goggles very strong that night? laugh.gif

Was that the Civil War?
mortonjag 2008-07-08 16:40:03
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 8 2008, 04:07 PM) [snapback]473609[/snapback]
To think I was eating a raspberry panacotta at this exact moment.
Shame on you.

IN the middle of your knife crime rife scheme SPARROT-you truly are a remarkable child!
mortonjag 2008-07-08 16:46:13
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 8 2008, 04:33 PM) [snapback]473634[/snapback]
Leave the guy alone, Collins wouldnt only have ignored half of you, he'd have came over and booted you right in the stones.

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mortonjag 2008-07-08 16:51:09
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Jul 8 2008, 04:43 PM) [snapback]473647[/snapback]
Don't say you weren't warned! I have engaged the services of a gentleman who wishes to discuss this matter with you. Be at The Jimmy Watt at 10 tonight sir! ph34r.gif

The monkey 'wontz two no iph phatza fret'! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-08 16:58:34
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 8 2008, 04:13 PM) [snapback]473618[/snapback]
don't even get me started on those Irish!

So-young man-back to the question-Islamophobia-or cold, hard truth? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-08 17:04:33
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 8 2008, 04:37 PM) [snapback]473641[/snapback]
He didn't have MJ to deal with really. Speaking of, has anyone noticed that MJ has calmed down since a dirty forum was added? i knew that was all he needed.

MORTONJAG IS ALWAYS CALM AND SUBDUED
mortonjag 2008-07-08 17:13:24
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 8 2008, 04:35 PM) [snapback]473638[/snapback]
She looks as if she is no stranger to a c*** ! Wonder how many times she has been banged ?
MARGARET CURRAN IS A C*NT, MARGARET CURRAN IS A C*NT, MARGARET CURRAN IS A C*NT!

Is there a tune to that we ditty MJ ?

Skip, skip, skip to my Lou,
Skip, skip, skip to my Lou,
Skip, skip, skip to my Lou,
Skip to my Lou, my darlin'.


Margaret Curran is a c*nt
is a c*nt, is a c*nt
Margaret Curran is a c*nt
Gordy Pordy's darling
mortonjag 2008-07-08 17:27:07
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 8 2008, 05:08 PM) [snapback]473672[/snapback]
biggrin.gif the day you learned to use different colors was the day i knew that i realised this isn't a harsh, cruel world. It's a sunny, wonderful extravegant place where all my dreams will come true.


Bring me sunshine in your smile
Bring me laughter all the while
In this world where we live
There should be more happiness
So much joy you can give
To each brand new bright tomorrow

Make me happy through the years
Never bring me any tears
Let your arms be as warm as the sun from up above
Bring me fun, bring me sunshine, bring me love

Bring me sunshine in your smile
Bring me laughter all the while
In this world where we live
There should be more happiness
So much joy you can give
To each brand new bright tomorrow

Make me happy through the years
Never bring me any tears
Let your arms be as warm as the sun from up above
Bring me fun, bring me sunshine, bring me love

Bring me sunshine in your smile
Bring me laughter all the while
Let your arms be as warm as the sun from up above
Bring me fun, bring me sunshine, bring me love



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mortonjag 2008-07-08 17:29:34
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 8 2008, 05:20 PM) [snapback]473683[/snapback]
I like it !

btw would you hump her ?

I'd much rather salute Mr Rae and call him Sir.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 17:32:23
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jul 8 2008, 05:25 PM) [snapback]473685[/snapback]
Christianity has been responsible for more wars and atrocities throughout history than all other religions combined. The journalist says that islam is different from other religions because its followers will kill in the name of it. Arguably the war in the middle east is being waged by "christian fundamentalists" however, which would make this a moot point. Even if this is not the case, and it is merely economic, is killing for money and power any better or worse then killing for religion?

Killing is rather naughty whatever the reason or excuse.

Right now I could murder a 'Chinky'
mortonjag 2008-07-08 17:38:18
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jul 8 2008, 05:09 PM) [snapback]473674[/snapback]
Last time I went there at that time a guy in a pair of gold knickers was waiting for midTONs who shat himself and was a no show despite having new runners for the occasion provided by GibbyTON on the night.

So I'll take a rain check. Actually can you imagine what Fran And Anna would have smelt like wet - jesus I hope they never went out in the rain or stood to close to naked flames with that gear on.

TonInDublin

Apparently in the summer-if it was REALLY hot, they used to take off their shoes and paddle in the Monklands Canal in their fishnet tights. The flies used to swarm round them like locals.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 17:45:02
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jul 8 2008, 04:56 PM) [snapback]473663[/snapback]
Aye, sunset from Lyle Hill on a clear day is bloody brilliant, one of the best views in Scotland. biggrin.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-08 17:47:53
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jul 8 2008, 05:19 PM) [snapback]473682[/snapback]
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shutup.gif + shutup.gif = shutup.gif shutup.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-08 18:05:10
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 8 2008, 05:52 PM) [snapback]473703[/snapback]
Expressed as: 2 shutup.gif

shutup.gif x shutup.gif + shutup.gifshutup.gif/ shutup.gif shutup.gif= shutup.gif shutup.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-08 18:07:54
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jul 8 2008, 06:04 PM) [snapback]473712[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(big B @ Jul 8 2008, 06:01 PM) [snapback]473711[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I can also reveal Princesston to marry Jon Newby that swung the signing.
no thats paartalu wub.gif

Jason's doon the basin? mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-08 18:12:22
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 8 2008, 05:38 PM) [snapback]473698[/snapback]
Aye yer right enough. And tae feck with hugging a hoodie as well.

Three craws sat upon a wa',
Sat upon a wa', sat upon a wa',
Three craws sat upon a wa',
On a cauld and frosty mornin'.

The first craw was greetin' for his maw,
Greetin' for his maw, greetin' for his maw,
The first craw was greetin' for his maw,
On a cauld and frosty mornin'.

The second craw fell and broke his jaw,
Fell and broke his jaw, fell and broke his jaw,
The second craw fell and broke his jaw,
On a cauld and frosty mornin'.

The third craw, couldnae caw at a',
Couldnae caw at a', couldnae caw at a',
The third craw, couldnae caw at a',
On a cauld and frosty mornin'.

An that's a', absolutely a',
Absolutely a', absolutely a',
An that's a', absolutely a',
On a cauld and frosty mornin
'

You're not much of a Franciscan Mr Edwards.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 18:16:02
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 8 2008, 05:50 PM) [snapback]473701[/snapback]
I hate terms like black, mixed race etc. I do remember when race training started for teachers under the aegis of gone, but not lamented, Strathclyde regional cooncil.
All people who were not "white", were deemed to be black, did not go down with the weans of chinese descent.

Were they Confuced?

QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 8 2008, 05:52 PM) [snapback]473704[/snapback]
I'm a tolerant person. I've even got a Tory friend.

He'll not be a brown pouffe then?
mortonjag 2008-07-08 18:26:10
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 8 2008, 06:04 PM) [snapback]473713[/snapback]
Either that or everyone should sign up for Buddhism.

I'm sometimes a wee bit suspicious of Buddhists-if everything I'm led to believe is correct, they are too good to be true. Are there many Buddhists in China?


Anyway--cold hard truth for me--nothing to do with daft psychological theories from immature weans about 'hatred making up for inadequacies'. They WILL read their big books! ph34r.gif

Life really is SO simplistic for some, and SO fanciful for others.

I do, however, suspect that a healthy distaste for Fundamental Islam pervades normal Muslim society in Britain.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 19:38:57
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 8 2008, 06:58 PM) [snapback]473749[/snapback]
i know all is allowed in this forum but calling me a racist is out of order. are you saying that Black, Asian, Indian people can't be any religion apart from Muslim?. What about black people who are Christians? how does that fit into your little theory.

where did i say i participate in politics? i said i had an interest in them. You're putting words in my mouth and the thing that scares me most is judging by your posts on this thread they seem to be coming out of your arse.

i said i feared the unknown, but i can quite clearly see that you're an idiot sitting at a keyboard, c*** in hand, wanking furiously at images in your head of Maggie Thatcher giving you rimjob, So i think i'll sleep safely tonight.

I don't know if he intended to call you a racist or not-probably not-but it's still pretty hurtful when that weapon is used to deflect attention from a valid argument.

The majority of Muslims is non white, in the same way as the majority of Christians is 'non black', but only an uneducated fool would suggest that Islamophobia-if such a phenomenon exists-is primarily racist. Fundamental Islam has set out its stall-it is not embraced by the majority of British Muslims because it preaches enforcement of Islam by extreme measures including indiscriminate terrorism.

I believe that a lesser evil is the ongoing attempt by certain elements in British society to impose Muslim values on the status quo. Most of those folk I see as misguided, rather than evil. I still believe, however, that there comes a point where they should politely be told 'NO' in the same way as a minority 'Christian' sect would be. We don't, for example, see Jehovah's Witnesses campaigning outside blood transfusion units, despite the fact that those are anathema to them, and if they tried, they'd surely be forced to leave.

It's in this latter area that I believe PC nonsense is catalysing, albeit unwittingly, the growth of Fundamental Islam.
mortonjag 2008-07-08 19:55:31
QUOTE(marxist_ton @ Jul 8 2008, 07:39 PM) [snapback]473773[/snapback]
I've not said a thing about cloured people not being Christian, because if I did I would be a complete idiot considering the Archbishop of York is black. Read the second last paragraph of this post and you will see the point I am making

I'm not saying that's what black people were doing, but again your lack of inteligence astounds me. What I am saying is that years ago it was the black people moving into Britain who were being feared and people felt uneasy about them, now it's the muslims.

The bit in bold confuses the hell out of me. As I have already said, terrorists can be white and christian, which is were your racism comes shining through. Even more so, how do you know the dark skinned man with the beard is muslim in the first place? You've made a total sweeping generalisation of this man, based on what? That's right, the colour of his skin. Couldn't he be athiest like you and I? You do get Asian athiests you know, but oh no, he must be muslim. And you said I thought that coloured people had to be one religion dry.gif

And Pete Doherty is not my role model, I like his music. Did I ever say he was my role model? unsure.gif


And that's where you've got the wrong end of the stick. In Scotland we've NEVER had an influx of 'black' people, but we're into our THIRD generation of Muslims. It's only relatively recently that worldwide Terrorist activity has been mirrored, as I already mentioned, by folk who are not 'evil' but who are being ENCOURAGED to test the limits to which they can impose Islam by our wishy washy PC society-described in the newspaper article as 'too timid to face the truth'.

Most white Glasgow folk do NOT have an inbuilt fear or suspicion of brown faces-they ARE now part of the culture. A significant number of 'whites' is in fact Muslim. That does not mean, for example, that the former endorse police sniffer dogs having to wear plastic bootees.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 06:11:06
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jul 8 2008, 08:26 PM) [snapback]473831[/snapback]
I have very little short term memory. Not like one of these people that say "my memory's crap". Medically diagnosed problem with short term memory and epilepsy, caused by head injury. Watch Memento (had to check IMDb to get the name, as couldn't remember it...ironic given the plot of the film!)

Scott Gillan on the other hand is a simpleton.

PS Why would I call Bob, Mr LargsTon? huh.gif



QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jul 8 2008, 10:24 PM) [snapback]473921[/snapback]
I miss Scott Gillan. sad.gif
Where'd he go?

Probably busy thinking up a response for Bob on the Derek Collins thread, I guess.


I'll help...

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED
mortonjag 2008-07-09 06:15:02
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 8 2008, 06:58 PM) [snapback]473750[/snapback]
This isn't aimed at Collins. I never had anything against him, nor did most fans I know.

It's aimed at the Gillans and Donga. I want to know if their feelings towards Derek have changed. I quite enjoy the fact Scott's obviously avoiding the issue. Squirm, bitch, squirm. laugh.gif



QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jul 8 2008, 11:14 PM) [snapback]473961[/snapback]
is it only because of this that you hate him, or are there other reasons?

also, have you never ignored someone you cant be arsed talking to? y'know, just pretend you didnt see them coz you think they are a dick etc? i'm sure we will all admit to having done something like this at one time or another. maybe he just thinks you and your dad are dicks, and thats why he ignored ye's

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mortonjag 2008-07-09 06:21:01 We're skint, yet it seems DI's doing a good job of making us hard to beat which is exactly the opposite of what JM did.

There are still huge gaps-our squad is anything but comprehensive, and I'd suggest 'bare bones' is a more accurate term.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 06:39:07
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 8 2008, 05:38 PM) [snapback]473696[/snapback]
No, general Jessiness would have been General Jessiness then.

OK-was General Jessiness in the Civil War?

QUOTE(Deego @ Jul 8 2008, 10:30 PM) [snapback]473924[/snapback]
So 16 is the legal age to have sex, but 18 is the legal age to talk about it? unsure.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


Bang on the money son-before I start TiD and Boozie have to stick to their rules-so I'm not getting at them here BUT

I cannot believe the abuse you've just taken from a shower of sanctimonious wee fan.nies who think they are big, mature, and knowledgeable just because they're 1,3,5, 7 or even 12 years older than you.

To me you're all just bloody weans anyway, and I'm sick to the back teeth of wee erses right up their ain.

I can assure you, young man, that you do an extremely good job of keeping those self satisfied wee wannabes on their tootsie wootsies!

Just one final point.


Morrissey is a


POUFFE


mortonjag 2008-07-09 06:54:08 Spurtle-the wee soul was reading out somebody else's speech to a select audience of BMA representatives-I believe they were highly impressed by her delivery. I always said Bawheid's bairns talk a good game.

Those crusty conservative c*nts have a vested interest in the status quo-if ever you had a Profession which is 'tartan tory' to the core, it's the Scottish Quackery.

I've had little time for the buffons at the B.M.A. since they bottled out of industrial action in the early nineties when their fellow Tory- the beery and baw faced Kenneth Clarke unilaterally imposed a 'contract' on G.P.s mad.gif

Here's what hirsute Hetty said-- which had them coming in gallons and their 'Markies' Y fronts.


"In Scotland, we have set out our stall with absolute clarity. NHS Scotland is, and always will be, a service that is owned by the people of this country. We will continue to ensure that our policies reflect the ethos and the principles upon which the NHS was founded back in 1948."

The health secretary said that patients and the public were co-owners of the service, not consumers in a competitive market-place. "I believe very strongly that our model, the Scottish model, of delivering healthcare is the best way of meeting our healthcare needs," she said.



Here's what she didn't say, and what she NEVER says.


THE PUBLIC WILL HAVE TO DIP DEEP INTO THEIR OWN POCKETS IF WE ARE EVER TO ACHIEVE THIS.



I'm singularly unimpressed by the little girl's attempt to con my fellow professionals.

I'm thoroughly disgusted that they, in turn, let their hearts rule their heads.

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mortonjag 2008-07-09 07:15:22
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jul 8 2008, 07:58 PM) [snapback]473796[/snapback]
When there have been no clouds during the day, there is nothing to obscure the sun, so the sunset can be seen clearly. mellow.gif

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I knew what you meant-it was just the way you said it-I'm getting worse than Mr Bam! blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-09 07:19:36
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 8 2008, 08:05 PM) [snapback]473806[/snapback]
Or have them sectioned because anyone sane would have tired of that b*****d child already.

SPARROT splurteth! laugh.gif

QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jul 8 2008, 08:42 PM) [snapback]473838[/snapback]
why didn't all the corporal punishment guys just birch him and maybe they would have got the bloodlust out of their system and all those against could reconsider our reservations as this poster was a serious 4rsehole .




Now, now, you're sounding like a bloody politician. The corporal punishment boys only want to birch the little pink naughty botties!
mortonjag 2008-07-09 07:22:40
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Jul 8 2008, 09:30 PM) [snapback]473878[/snapback]
Is it for the male Turkish masseuse job thats was advertised on the phone box wall



See thae trans sexual turkeys!
mortonjag 2008-07-09 07:27:33
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 8 2008, 09:53 PM) [snapback]473897[/snapback]
Schoolboy error jag, Confucius is the Latinised version of the name, in Mandarin it's Kun Fu Tse.

Confucius-he say-homosexual chemist ... Pouffe in Boots.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 07:39:00
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 8 2008, 10:52 PM) [snapback]473937[/snapback]
I try to avoid sunburn as I dislike cancer.

The most common cause of cancer in the under 30's is typing.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 07:44:43 Only one more till you reach the years of maturity!


Many happy returns.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 07:48:02
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 8 2008, 11:03 PM) [snapback]473948[/snapback]
Was St Francis a veggie? Friar Tuck wasn't as I recall. Me? I'm still on the good karma kormas.

Did yon Boy George Pouffe not write a wee song about Karma Kormeleon?

QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 9 2008, 06:53 AM) [snapback]474045[/snapback]
Aye and then fall off them dead! laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-09 08:03:10
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 8 2008, 11:45 PM) [snapback]473985[/snapback]
But...part of the stereotype IS the colour of their skin...don't even try and deny that, if you do you will be appearing very silly.

To you perhaps, but then you're just a wee Inverclyde kid whose knowledge of the big smoke is confined to walking from the Central Station to the Tech and back.



I can assure you without any shadow of doubt that most Glaswegians don't even look twice at other Scottish people with brown or black faces-they are all around-they are part of our culture-they are doctors, bus drivers, lawyers, bank clerks, and bin men.

Now here's a wee piece of gen for you, young man-folk who wear funny claes and hide their faces ARE part of a stereotype-they WANT to be seen to be different-'SUPERIOR' even.

So it's 'when in Rome do as the Romans do'-unless you're a fundamental Muslim!!!
mortonjag 2008-07-09 08:09:11
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jul 8 2008, 10:45 PM) [snapback]473929[/snapback]
**DISCLAIMER**

If easily offended, please don't read what is under the spoiler tags. I can understand people getting upset with this one.
**DISCLAIMER**


What's small, pink, and smells of Holly?

[spoiler]Ian Huntley's c***[/spoiler]

Huntly's penis was purportedly quite large.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 08:23:52 I lost my virginity in the corner of a field between Kilmacolm and Port Glasgow-I reckon I was probably thirteen-maybe fourteen at the time-but in the late 1950's we were not nearly as precocious as the current kids.

Anyway, as in most of those situations, it was over very quickly. I came off her with a mixture of joy, amazement and not a little apprehension-it was, after all-out in the open.

Now here's the bit I can laugh at now, but I assure you it was anything but amusing at the time. Her bloody mother had been watching the whole thing over the hedge. She stared me straight in the eyes, and what she said has been indelibly printed in my brain ever since:
























































BAAAA
mortonjag 2008-07-09 09:07:59
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 9 2008, 08:56 AM) [snapback]474065[/snapback]
I would be more impressed if patients gave her two standing ovations rather than doctors.
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Digitally!
mortonjag 2008-07-09 09:12:47
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 9 2008, 09:02 AM) [snapback]474070[/snapback]
That would be a homosexual pharmacist surely.
Dear lord, Mentaljug MB, ChB don't know the difference between a chemist who understands the workings of creation and a Pharmacist who dispenses snake oil. laugh.gif

They're all effin chemists to me Mr Bam.

Confucius he say-man with hand in pocket feel cawky all day.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 09:17:39
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 9 2008, 08:16 AM) [snapback]474056[/snapback]
i'm not denying that, but it is not the color of their skin i dislike/fear about them. I wouldn't not get to know someone because of the color of their skin, and i would be more than comfortable having muslim friends with different colored skin from me. If i was on a train and the only seat left was next to someone with darker skin and a beard i'd have no problem sitting beside them. I don't see me as a racist, i see me as someone with a fear of their religion, and what could happen to me and people i love because of it.

If that makes me a racist then so be it, but i know for a fact there are millions of other people in the world who feel exactly like me.

I WOULD if she was a woman.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 10:04:43
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 9 2008, 09:54 AM) [snapback]474100[/snapback]
The man that you worship as Son of God, as well as others before and after him, have advocated the alternative. Isn't it a pity that we choose to ignore them. And wars aren't all 'noble' struggles against tyranny. On the contrary, most of them are about power, control of resources and greed. The last two in the Arabian Gulf certainly were.

I'll always defend the right of the bullied to knock f*ck out of the bully!
mortonjag 2008-07-09 10:09:57
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 9 2008, 09:16 AM) [snapback]474079[/snapback]
Watch it sawbones that's fighting talk. wink.gif

I'll 'sawbones' you-I am a Physician, and a fine one to boot! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-09 10:25:31
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 9 2008, 10:18 AM) [snapback]474120[/snapback]
I don't really disagree with your analysis either, just your use of the term 'civilised'. I would argue that a society that prepares for or wages war, doesn't fully deserve that description.

'Civilised' suits me Mr Edwards. The term you're looking for is 'ideal', and it just doesn't work that way.

Man was 'born in sin and shapen in iniquity'.

Jesus told us how to make the best of it with his new commandments that we 'love one another' and forgive 'seventy times seven'.

It doesn't work that way either, I'm afraid.

'An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth', is fine by me, and birching is the solution to all sin.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 11:52:24
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 9 2008, 11:09 AM) [snapback]474150[/snapback]
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Max Mosley might agree with you.

I'd birch ALL Nazis.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 11:57:31
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Jul 9 2008, 10:39 AM) [snapback]474138[/snapback]
What is the world coming to? Now the Saudis have gone soft as s***e!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7496375.stm

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Ping pong-I'd cut off their bloody hands.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 12:15:28
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 9 2008, 10:24 AM) [snapback]474127[/snapback]
I see. Best avoided then. laugh.gif

It might be the making of you Mr Edwards! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-09 12:16:51
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jul 9 2008, 11:23 AM) [snapback]474154[/snapback]
Minister for Woman and Equality is that a contradiction in terms .

Birch the bitch!
mortonjag 2008-07-09 12:20:32
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 9 2008, 10:37 AM) [snapback]474135[/snapback]
I think you lot are brilliant too. I love some of the unionist excuses, you give me much merriment.

I also love the negative spin you conjure up on quite positive nationalist stories.
I was going to say I'll be sad when the union breaks up because all this will come to an end. But of course I won't be sad, although I'll look back with much affection at all the quite incredible unionist blinkered view points and laugh ma wee cotton socks aff . laugh.gif

'Made in Great Britain'!

QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 9 2008, 12:06 PM) [snapback]474181[/snapback]
Nope that's Mentaljug.

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mortonjag 2008-07-09 12:23:43 If there's a willy there's a way.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 12:30:27
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 9 2008, 10:40 AM) [snapback]474139[/snapback]
its one of lifes great mysteries how someone who is so outspoken on here can be so shy in real life! laugh.gif

Just as well knob sookin' requires no laryngeal input! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-09 12:35:48
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 9 2008, 10:20 AM) [snapback]474122[/snapback]
you have trouble sitting next to any woman. sad.gif

True! laugh.gif

QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 9 2008, 11:35 AM) [snapback]474161[/snapback]
Ah there is nothing better than blind ignorance. How do you know I do not go to other parts of Glasgow on a regular basis?

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Aye you go to pipe band venues and the occasional bash at the Carling! laugh.gif

Have you ever seen a Hijabee playing the pipes?
mortonjag 2008-07-09 12:44:48
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Jul 9 2008, 12:39 PM) [snapback]474195[/snapback]
You might have something there! I have noticed I have lusted after the occcasional 50+ model already and I seem to have given up sitting outside schools at lunchtime...

There is a subtle difference between lovemaking and getting your hole.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 12:58:19
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jul 9 2008, 12:53 PM) [snapback]474201[/snapback]
Nicola Sturgeon is just the tartan version of Wendy Alexander.

Wendy uses disposable razors.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 13:01:03
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Jul 9 2008, 12:54 PM) [snapback]474202[/snapback]
There is...? huh.gif

You are still young! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-09 13:06:09
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jul 9 2008, 12:59 PM) [snapback]474210[/snapback]
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Aye, Sturgeon could probably win a Desperate Dan lookalike competition at that.

I see it's her birthday quite soon-I can't think of a present that's particularly suitable-I've googled exploding tartan dildo with no success. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-09 13:13:57
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 9 2008, 12:43 PM) [snapback]474197[/snapback]
My pipe band practices in Clydebank huh.gif

In the past week, outwith piping, I have been in areas of Glasgow on Thursday, Monday and yesterday. And will be Tomorrow and Friday...the Friday one involving a sub-crawl meaning I will see 15 different areas of Glasgow in a day wink.gif



Clydebank's a bit of Glasgow!

I'm surprised then, given your massive exposure to our big smoke culture, that you still see non white faces as 'part of a stereotype'!

...and you didn't answer the question-how do you blaw the pipes through a burqua?
mortonjag 2008-07-09 13:16:32
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 9 2008, 01:00 PM) [snapback]474211[/snapback]
you should go, its well fun. there is a good chance you won't even be picked anyway, and even if you're not picked you still get to see the f***er and hear what they've done.

Sounds quite kinky-is it in stereo?
mortonjag 2008-07-09 13:20:38
QUOTE(Deego @ Jul 8 2008, 11:27 PM) [snapback]473970[/snapback]
4 User(s) are reading this topic (2 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
2 Members: Deego, Scott_Gillan

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Could he be avoiding the question?
mortonjag 2008-07-09 13:38:48
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 9 2008, 01:17 PM) [snapback]474221[/snapback]
Pipe down! you're ruining the best thread on this forum, BTT!

I never ruin threads and it's MINE anyway. ph34r.gif

QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jul 9 2008, 01:18 PM) [snapback]474222[/snapback]
this thread is really good, some really interesting stuff from you guys, heres something I was thinking regarding the muslim religion, does the shira law not derive from that very religion ? and if so then the 2 things go hand in hand, this is a set of laws that should make us ALL very afraid, laws in which the VICTIM of a crime becomes the perpatrotor themselves... so as said if the shira law and muslim relegion are so closely connected (or are in fact for all intense and purposes the same thing)..then we should be putting all efforts in to stopping this religion from spreading.



There have been a few woolly comments recently about elements of Sharia law being incorporated into the current system. No harm in that if it's a gradual evolution and conforms with accepted Human Rights.

I do find this interesting!

Gay rights

Main article: Homosexuality and Islam

Homosexual activity is illicit under the sharia, however the prescribed penalties differ from one school of jurisprudence to another. For example these countries may allow the death penalty for sodomy though not for other homosexual activities: Iran, UAE, Sudan, Nigeria, Mauritania, Saudi Arabia, Yemen and Somalia. Sharia does not recognize a human right of sexual self-determination. Human rights organizations focus on decriminalization, anti-discrimination laws, and incitement to hatred laws. Organizations are particularly concerned about the persecution of gays and lesbians in Iran and have helped some gay and lesbian Iranians gain asylum in Western countries.



Maybe some of our less tolerant posters, who might be 'wondering what the country's coming to' would be more content elsewhere! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-09 13:43:55
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jul 9 2008, 01:40 PM) [snapback]474238[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-07-09 13:47:20 I'm very fond of frogs-particularly tree frogs which have a lovely yellowish green hue.

I've met a few horny toads in my time too.

The latter are best avoided.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 13:52:10
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 9 2008, 01:41 PM) [snapback]474239[/snapback]
No, no, no, no, NO! Unacceptable.

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It's OK Boozie-they won't chop off yer willy for for havin' a wee snifter on the side.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 14:15:25 I don't think of myself as old-in fact, still in my early sixties, I'm even a wee bit resistant to the term 'elderly'

I'm still quite alert, able to walk and talk, continent of urine and faeces, and, believe it or not enjoy a good shag on a regular basis.

I suspect that last comment may surprise-indeed shock some of our younger posters. If any of you relates to that, you are by definition, guilty of ageism!

Stereotyping is universal-there's nothing inherently wrong with it, and often it serves a useful purpose (young man + shell suit + baseball cap + Bucky bottle = AVOID), but stereotyping is also a classical symptom of narrow mindedness, and an inability to think laterally.

'Ageism', originally referred to stereotyping of the elderly, but has now a broader meaning and includes all discrimination on account of age.

I regularly 'take the piss' out of our younger posters, as they do of me, but I'm often amazed by the perception and maturity of some of them, and in reality, I've always enjoyed being in the company of younger people.

In fact the majority of the over sixties are boring old fuds.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 14:34:22
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jul 9 2008, 02:08 PM) [snapback]474258[/snapback]
I know, i've read it a few times



The Bible, like the Koran and the Kama Sutra, is a very useful instruction manual, provided it's not read too literally.

Folk who read scripture and accept word for word outdated concepts are guilty of fundamentalism. That's the problem which underlies this thread.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 14:45:41
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 9 2008, 01:37 PM) [snapback]474233[/snapback]
Weatherson ought to fight his way into the team at some point, and we know that he's more than capable of going on hot spells of goals that would be most useful.
Will there be any room in the squad for the 3-4-3 that worked so well against dunfermline or Partick?
For me, Russell is best suited to the right wing type position he had then, although he's a decetn striker if not the best finisher.
Thankfully we have far better options than we ahd last year - we can afford to drop players due to poor form. smile.gif



The word is 'deceiving', SPARROT!
mortonjag 2008-07-09 14:48:43
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jul 9 2008, 02:17 PM) [snapback]474265[/snapback]
can't believe it has been 50 minutes since someone made a posting on this thread

How time flies!
mortonjag 2008-07-09 14:56:32
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 9 2008, 01:49 PM) [snapback]474245[/snapback]
I was gonna use this thread to have a cheap dig at CHC but then I remembered that he's currently in my good books. happy.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-09 15:03:21
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 9 2008, 02:03 PM) [snapback]474254[/snapback]
C'mon, you know the both of you would "do" her. Stop trying to convince that you have any kind of standards laugh.gif

Both Sturgeon and Salmond make a great team.


Exceptional politicians with great intelligence and integrity avoid Holyrood like the plague.

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mortonjag 2008-07-09 15:12:25
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 9 2008, 02:47 PM) [snapback]474279[/snapback]
Perhaps in your unwise opinion.

I have NO unwise opinions SPARROT

LEAFY is indeed a decent striker-potentially far more prolific than Super Khali.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 15:15:56 Greacen's Genitals become Nicholl's pickles.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 15:24:37
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 9 2008, 03:16 PM) [snapback]474289[/snapback]
only difference is " Leafy " can have all the potential he wants, while he's fannying about with potential Wake will be scoring the goals.

Darling-I've been holding back for ages and-you know me- eventually I've just got to let it out:


Where is the evidence that Super Khali is going to be banging in goals?

He came as a JM signing and was so dreadful for many weeks that he was literally being pilloried on this pubic massage board. Some even claimed he was the worst player they'd ever seen at Cappielow.

Then ----whoooooooooooooooosh-kerrrrang-kalamazoooooooooo........ bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif ........

he plays two good games and immediately becomes cult figure and striker par excellence!

I WAS impressed, and I'm praying it wasn't just a big magic flash in the pan. huh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-09 15:37:40
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 9 2008, 03:31 PM) [snapback]474294[/snapback]
Aye don't we know it! Peado.

I don't mind the company of old people, infact i smile whenever one randomly starts talking to me or people around me, makes me wish we still lived ina time where you could talk away to any stranger at the bus stop or wherever like you obviously could in their day. I was in work one day and an old man came in and started talking to me about the war for a good 20 minutes and although i never got any work done i was absolutely fascinated, plus he called me a gentleman when he left, he had good taste.

Stereotypes are the same as cliches for me, they are there because they are true, that is why they became stereotypes and cliches in the first place, although im not saying every stereotype is true.

You mean like saying ' the Mods are POUFFES' when in fact only one is?
mortonjag 2008-07-09 15:50:17
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Jul 9 2008, 03:35 PM) [snapback]474297[/snapback]
ive read bits of the Koran, like ive read bits of the bible.... i also have friends (not just sajeed who works in the local shop..) who are muslim, i have to say i feel safer sitting amongst a group of strangers who are young muslims than i do amongst a group strangers of young white men. its definately a lot more peaceful with less testosterone flying about with points to prove. i have rarely seen the group of muslims kicking off, fighting, being disrespectful for no reason.. the latter.. just look around on a friday or saturday night! i find the media stereotype of the muslim shocking and so far from the truth.

as an athiest looking at religion, i see it as one of the most surreal things that happens in the world.. people worshiping, giving money for, living their life around these mysterious beings who they have never seen or heard.. nuts nuts nuts. tho sometimes i do feel as though im missing out on something. what ill never know!

theres many similarities between the two religions, one of the differences is that the bible makes jesus out to be the pathway to god.. whilst in islam, jesus is the healer and didnt say at any time to go through him to get to god, that was peter and paul? thus islam sees christians as worshiping the wrong person. . whilst mohammed is the.. awe f*** it... its all religious mumbo jumbo to me.

religion.. another cause of bloodshed for what? so we have an excuse for our pityful short time as a life form on earth? pah.

end of the day, everyone is entitled to their beliefs, its when these beliefs lead to a reaction.. ie.. the common one up here, looking at someone as if they are dirt, making them feel unwelcome because of the way they dress or colour. thats when a line is crossed that is so wrong.
worse happens, but this is a common occurance that i have witnessed when walking around with friends and i can see why the muslim community feel under threat. People perhaps dont even realise they are doing it and yet it subconsiously happens all the time.

edit to add - im sure that a large part of the problem (apart from religion! full stop) with the koran is that is was written in Arabic, thus you are really reading someones translation of the koran rather than the actual writings itself. this leaves it open to many different interpretations.

Real or imagined?
mortonjag 2008-07-09 15:53:54
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 9 2008, 03:51 PM) [snapback]474310[/snapback]
what i meant was they are true in some sense, or at some point otherwise they wouldn't be a stereotype/cliche to begin with.

Although someone who's just been caught fingering their dogs arse could probably explain themselves better than i can.

Aye those vets are all the same.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 16:01:01
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Jul 9 2008, 03:50 PM) [snapback]474309[/snapback]
on LSD!

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Like yourself I have many Muslim acquaintances. A couple are personal friends. I've never known any of them to admit to 'fear'. They have all chosen to live here because they enjoy being part of the community, and the advantages they gain from being British.

I've never discussed Fundamental Islam except with the ones I feel closest to, and they regard it in a similar fashion to how I imagine most nominal Christians see the IRA or UDA.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 16:07:43 STEVIE AITKEN


He's ALWAYS protesting vociferously that he's got Mortonjag on ignore!!!


Hmm. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-09 16:13:35
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 9 2008, 03:44 PM) [snapback]474303[/snapback]
He was getting better when coming on as sub once he was match fit, and he scored in last 3 games of season, and after watching him on monday i have no fear that he'll continue that, his effort, touch, his ability to hold and bring others into play , his movement in the box and finishing ability were all top class, including taking the ball round the keeper and tapping it in the net, while your precious leafy was missing 4 one on ones with the goalkeeper.

He will score goals for us this season, don't worry.

Praise indeed-he sounds almost as good as Spoonsy was when he came at first!
mortonjag 2008-07-09 16:18:00
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 9 2008, 04:02 PM) [snapback]474320[/snapback]
MJ post a few times, im todays top poster, that doesn't sit comfortably with me. I think only deego has ever outposted you.

I never really pay much attention to what I've written after it's done!

Mind you I have this vague recollection of some guy getting a trifle upset because he thought his son was being misrepresented. There were a lot of posts after that but very few were mine.

Pete Gallen or somebody if I recall.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 16:37:59
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 9 2008, 04:18 PM) [snapback]474337[/snapback]
you have him on ignore apparently but you're the last person on MJ's profile according to him. tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-09 16:40:51 FAIRY NUFF
mortonjag 2008-07-09 16:51:32
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 9 2008, 04:44 PM) [snapback]474354[/snapback]
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I must admit if I had the dosh it might just have to be a Morgan,

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mortonjag 2008-07-09 17:03:19
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 9 2008, 04:58 PM) [snapback]474360[/snapback]
two days since someone looked at your profile, you need to up your effort on here!

although 99% of profiles have nothing on them so i dont see why people check them laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-09 17:06:35
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jul 9 2008, 05:03 PM) [snapback]474361[/snapback]
It surprises most of us that you pay attention to what you've written while it's being done

I don't.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 17:11:01
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 9 2008, 05:07 PM) [snapback]474366[/snapback]
Unsurprisingly deego and mortonjag were the last to look at mine; deego because he's a scrote and mortonjag because he's a creepy c***.

Mortonjag knows more than he's saying! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-09 17:19:13
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 9 2008, 05:10 PM) [snapback]474370[/snapback]
I remember a game against Elgin City when we were in the third when a mate I was at the match with pointed out that Collins had stamped on their young forward. The forward was quiet for much of the game thereafter.

Collins had a terrible disciplinary record considering that he was meant to lead by example, but I suppose on that occasion it did the trick.

Would any other members care to comment on Collins overall manners?

I watched Derek Collins throughout his first spell, and when he came back, and never thought of him as an undisciplined player, so, having read your comment I did a wee bit of research and came up with this:



HE IS A LIAR.Down at Gretna myself and my Dad shouted to Derek to give us a wave as he was hitting the ball about at half time in front of us.He looked straight at us from about 6 feet away and turned his back to us and walked away..Total ignorant asshole.He forgets my dad was on his testimonial commitee(Spelling??) and worked hard to make him as much money as poss.

The guy is an Idiot and I hope he comes off the bench on Saturday cause they always seem to lose a goal or two when he does
mortonjag 2008-07-09 17:29:55
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 9 2008, 05:12 PM) [snapback]474373[/snapback]
That is honestly a tremendous source of relief.

Delighted to have spared you 150 calories and a paper tissue.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 18:37:10
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jul 9 2008, 05:57 PM) [snapback]474392[/snapback]
Scott Gillan?

Was it something he thought had been said?
mortonjag 2008-07-09 18:48:36
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Jul 9 2008, 06:34 PM) [snapback]474411[/snapback]
Don't worry, i won't nut you...yet. angel.gif I guess i should be pleased that you mod police are looking out for her. If the truth be told, she doesn't really want in it anyway, she said it would be a bunch of old geezers talking s*** and looking at porn.. ohmy.gif

Turned out they were talking porn and looking at sh*t, Your Majesty! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-09 18:51:08
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 9 2008, 06:38 PM) [snapback]474416[/snapback]
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Ages since you were reduced to the huffy Smileys, Spurtle-I hope wee Nickerless didn't refuse you a 'beardie' again!
mortonjag 2008-07-09 18:56:06
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jul 9 2008, 06:19 PM) [snapback]474400[/snapback]
Did you just out Boozehound ?

TonInDublin

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Boozie's a nice pouffe guy-not at all Mr Mod-I wasn't just confining my comments to the Jessie Boys! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-09 19:00:29 4-0 ALL from


LEAFY

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mortonjag 2008-07-09 19:09:32
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 9 2008, 06:48 PM) [snapback]474422[/snapback]
The Morgan's the one, it's about style sir, not pulling birds nor acting as a willie extension.

Jaguars are just fords with different bodies, the days of seriously stylish Jags seem to be gone.

Mind you any of these would be an improvement on my current means of transport.
Shanks' pony. sad.gif

Yes-I understand-if you only want it parked in your driveway. The latest Morgan-incidentally is ANYTHING but stylish IMO-one of the ugliest looking beasts I've ever set eyes on with an uglier arse than Ms Sturgeon.


Jags are now made by the Tata group (nowt to do with euthanasia) though they are Indian!
mortonjag 2008-07-09 19:13:43
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 9 2008, 07:05 PM) [snapback]474436[/snapback]
No chance, unless a mod deletes it. happy.gif

HMM-if history's anything to go on..................... ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-09 19:18:16
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Jul 9 2008, 07:14 PM) [snapback]474448[/snapback]
Who the hell would want to look at s***?? ohmy.gif

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A good question your Majesty, and one I don't feel free to answer, though I may blush a little. blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-09 19:24:06
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jul 9 2008, 07:21 PM) [snapback]474462[/snapback]
No, he's the boards very own Harold Shipman.

Correct Mr McArthur-and don't you forget it!
mortonjag 2008-07-09 21:00:14
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 9 2008, 07:26 PM) [snapback]474474[/snapback]
To be fair, that's what we're all asking...I don't see why Scott's not answering... unsure.gif

Maybe he just is one of those careful chaps who thinks very long and hard before saying anything.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 21:03:12 We're beginning to look quite hard to beat.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 21:16:21
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 9 2008, 08:27 PM) [snapback]474603[/snapback]
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Wait till the JagMeister sees that one rolleyes.gif

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Fing and Munx are indestructible, unlike wannabe fossils. Fing's nail gun technique is now perfected.

Tyrants take note! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-09 21:36:05
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 9 2008, 09:19 PM) [snapback]474740[/snapback]
Do they fondle each other blush.gif

They don't describe buggery as fondling, though one might!

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He f***ing bit me.

Probably a flea-not Fing-Fing is lethal.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 21:52:59
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jul 9 2008, 08:48 PM) [snapback]474683[/snapback]
Morton score - Russell

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QUOTE(Tyrannous @ Jul 9 2008, 09:04 PM) [snapback]474720[/snapback]
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I figured that if i keep this up, by next June maybe i'll have a post count as big as yours. Then people may love and respect me. dry.gif

Well done LEAFY



I knew you'd score.

Why did Newbs and Khali not manage even one from them Hunners of tantalising crosses from Superkev and Jimbo? ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-09 21:56:00 4-0 ALL from
LEAFY

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mortonjag 2008-07-09 22:03:10 I'm pissed off to the back teeth hearing excuse after excuse from other posters. I'm NOT blaming DI-he's getting f*ck all money from Rae and has had to prioritise as he sees fit, but tonight we played some pathetic wee hamlet crowd, and our wonder strikers Wakey and Newb got SFA.

Strikers don't score if they ain't supplied-guess the speculative long balls ended up speculative and Superkev and Jimbo flattered to deceive as usual.

If that's miles off the mark, so be it.

We STILL need effin wingers-not superfit JM utility players.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 22:12:29
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 9 2008, 10:07 PM) [snapback]474777[/snapback]
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its a friendly, we had 4 trailists in the team....... it was for fitness rolleyes.gif

It must have been a bloody trial for the poor souls who trekked all the way from Inverclyde.

If we'd had nine trialists-AYE MIBBE-but according to yourself Kev, and Jimbo, and Wakey and Newb were on, and we couldn't score against a village green side (well LEAFY did but he's a proper striker).

WE NEED WINGERS
mortonjag 2008-07-09 22:18:42
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jul 9 2008, 08:19 PM) [snapback]474584[/snapback]
'Beheading Hitler' could actually be the name of Bob Geldof's new child.....Beheading Hitler Geldof. There's a certain ring about it.

It might be a boy though.
mortonjag 2008-07-09 22:22:08 I'm planning to get to bed quite soon. In the short time it takes for me to nod off, I'll probably lie wondering why we canny score for peanuts, and even worse why I'll have to read 1001 excuses tomorrow about DI's wonderful effin system, that doesn't need full backs or wingers! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-10 07:13:22 Curran’s ‘slip of the tongue’ over where she lives


Margaret Curran, Labour's candidate in the Glasgow East by-election, was yesterday forced to clarify a claim she had lived in the east end "all my life" after it emerged she has lived in an affluent part of the south side of the city for the past 20 years.

The Glasgow Baillieston MSP angrily denied allegations that she had misled voters, although an aide later conceded she may have made a "slip of the tongue".

Ms Curran is not the only candidate to stay outwith the Glasgow East boundaries: at the close of entries to the Electoral Office at Glasgow City Council yesterday, it emerged that, of the mainstream candidates, only one - the SNP's John Mason - actually lives there.


Ian Robertson, the LibDem candidate, pledged yesterday to move into the area - where he born and raised - if returned as an MP, while the Conservative party's Davena Rankin stays in the west end.

Faced with questions from The Herald yesterday over whether she had made a misleading statement, Ms Curran angrily refused to retract her comments.

During her first public outing smile.gif as an official candidate in Shettleston on Tuesday, Ms Curran said: "I have worked in the east end all my life. I have lived in the east end all my life." However, she claimed that this meant she had "either" lived or worked in the east end, where she was born and raised, and worked as a welfare rights worker and community worker, and where she now serves as MSP.

Ms Curran also described her move to a more prosperous area an example of "aspiration", adding that she was bringing those values back to the east end constituency.

She said: "I think I'm quite typical of the east end of Glasgow, where a lot of people, a lot of working class people, did very well for their kids ... I had the privilege of going to university, as did my husband, and we then bought our own house. That was aspirational on the part of our families - that's very typical in the east end."

Ms Curran attributed her reason for staying away from the constituency to "force of circumstances", saying: "My kids went to school at a certain primary and I kept them there. There's no issue."

The MSP has lived in the south side of Glasgow for at least 19 years. In 2001, she bought a property in Newlands, for £350,000 with her husband, Rab Murray, a former depute social work head at Glasgow City Council who is originally from Easterhouse. Before that, the couple lived in Shawlands since 1989, having moved from Pollokshields, also on the south side.

An aide to Ms Curran conceded later that she may have made a "slip of the tongue" in claiming to have lived in the east end all her life. "Her address is a matter of public record. She made that comment in a speech given without notes and she may have made a slip of the tongue. The point is she has lived or worked in the east end for pretty much all her adult life."








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Why do I DESPISE politicians-ESPECIALLY nouveau riche 'lefties'?

This little piggy has roast beef! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-10 07:18:56
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 9 2008, 10:38 PM) [snapback]474797[/snapback]
Tow Law FC 1 Morton 1

This match was played on a pitch which was the total opposite of the billiard table lushness of Threave Rovers ground. It sloped across the pitch by a remarkable amount �“ I would guess around 20ft from one touchline to the other. Further it was full of bumps, potholes and molehills that had only had the most cursory attention from the groundsman. It made Alloa's old pitch look flat!!

Morton started with a four trialists including three un-named black players and the impressive Graham (Junior) Smith . In what seemed like a 3-4-1-2 they lined up as:

Stewart
Black Lad 1 McManus Smith
Finlayson Masterton Black lad 2 McAllister
Black lad 3
Newby Wake


The pitch was the real winner tonight and the silky passing football of Monday was impossible. Tow Law probably created the best chances and Stewart had an excellent dive and full stretch save to his right to turn the ball away. Tow Law were then turned down what appeared to be a blatant penalty when our trialist right back delivered an elbow to the chops of his opponent in the box but the ref gave it outside the box. Morton were struggling to control the ball but tried to play football whereas Tow Law hoofed the ball mostly and were just as effective if not more so than us.

Halftime was reached with scores still at 0-0. For the second half DI took off the trialist right back who did not look that secure to me and his ineffective defensive midfield partner. He also replaced Masterton and Finlayson plus Stewart so that the team was now:

Bradley
Weatherson McManus Smith
McAllister McGuffie Paartalu Russell
Black Lad 3
Wake Newby


The second half went much as the first. With about 20 minutes to go one of Tow Law’s hoofs up the park found a molehill and the bad bounce gave their boy a look at goal and he scored with a lob into the far corner from about 25 yards - Bradley had no chance. Stevenson then replaced the remaining black player (who was called Rasheed) and Brian Graham and Lee Nicholl (trialist ex Falkirk) came on for Wake and Newby. It was all Morton for the final 15 minutes and eventually a through ball from Stevenson found McGuffie in the box and he squared for Russell to tap in.

All in all, it was another useful work out in terms of letting the gaffer assess the team. The pitch though was a nightmare as were the conditions �“ freezing and rain varying from steady drizzle to full on monsoon. Of the trialists, Rasheed look very tricky with quick feet and showed many nice touches. He was the smallest of the three but definitely the most skilful. The other two black lads were average at best. Smith impressed again and may be a real find if we sign him.

Stevenson again showed good attitude when he came on and a little bit of composure on the ball in very difficult conditions. Passes went astray all night but I am not blaming the players. The game was played on quite the worst pitch I have ever seen Morton play on and, frankly, I would criticise the club for risking the players on it at this stage of the season.

Tomorrow is on a synthetic pitch so at least we are guaranteed it will be flat and capable of supporting passing football.

Edited to correct Lee Nicholl not Lee Mitchell

I hope it's not chickenpox!
mortonjag 2008-07-10 07:27:08
QUOTE(Cowshed Chris @ Jul 9 2008, 07:25 PM) [snapback]474470[/snapback]
What have I started....

Scott, I appologise for resurrecting this thread, smile.gifI was just genuinely interested as to your opinion now Collins is back




When the reply comes, I'm sure it will have been given a great deal of consideration.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 07:37:13
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 9 2008, 11:26 PM) [snapback]474835[/snapback]
i would not read anything into tonights game, you would have found it hard to pass wind on that pitch never mind the ball

Jim, I've already read Tonsilitis' report-thanks to him for that.

I'm reading plenty into the game-it was a friendy-aye-the pitch was terrible so we couldn't play football-aye-so what should we have done.?

Tonsilitis said that pumping long balls into the box was pretty effective for them-why it didn't work for us may just have been down to bad luck, but one way of overcoming a pitch that's not 'bowling green' is to keep slinging over high crosses-and we have NOBODY who can do it. That to me is a glaring deficiency in the squad. ESPECIALLY when it looks like Newb and Wakey can connect (as can Spoonsy).

I notice that-as ever-the children are quoting from their big books about systems and formations. They totally miss the point that we have NO adaptability, and that's a big negative for the coming season.

I'm being positive--there's still time to get it sorted.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 07:56:09
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jul 10 2008, 07:25 AM) [snapback]474910[/snapback]
For future accuracy and political correctness (see what I did there!), please stop referring to nu-labour politicians as 'lefties' - even with the perverted commas it is still just wrong.

That is all

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Ms Curran is the epitome of the 'nouveau riche leftie'. I make no apology, and require no correction from an ass. A parasite who's got rich on the strength of the poor folk she CLAIMS to represent.

Barrowfield is not 'Middle Inglind' Tailbearer.

If you know the East end of Glasgow you will understand EXACTLY where I am coming from. If you don't, trot into Asda at Parkhead forge this Saturday morning, and just OBSERVE!

Most of those good people only need to know who's wearing a red rosette when they go voting.

Many are well practised at putting a cross next to a name.

Very few need time off work to go voting either.

Curran-archetypal political scum.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 08:10:43
QUOTE(Tyrannous @ Jul 9 2008, 11:20 PM) [snapback]474831[/snapback]
Maybe one day. sad.gif

The Monkey awaits your pleasure.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 08:14:51
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 10 2008, 07:24 AM) [snapback]474909[/snapback]
save it for the police mate.

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When I barged through with 'Oot ma road ya decrepit old c*nt', I thought it was somebody else heading to the fancy dress party', officer.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 08:45:35
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jul 10 2008, 08:06 AM) [snapback]474919[/snapback]
People have a really weird way of looking at things. Why would Collins leaving Morton leave anyone with a 'bitter taste in their mouth'?
I worked in the record industry for 15 years and absolutely loved every minute of it. My sales director was/is one of my closet friends. I was offered a job with £20,000 more a year. How stupid would I have been to say no? It's as simple as that. I am and Collins is an economic agent.


Surely only a blithering idiot could see it otherwise?
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Jul 10 2008, 08:21 AM) [snapback]474930[/snapback]
Might be the advantage of experience. We are all economic agents who need to maximise our economic welfare. If he'd left for a paycut then some animosity might have been understandable. But a lot of the angst on here is quite funny - a bit like when Fat Robbie left take that and all the wee girls were devestated.

How apt!
mortonjag 2008-07-10 08:48:00
QUOTE(irvineTON @ Jul 10 2008, 08:46 AM) [snapback]474940[/snapback]
I always like Collins as a player and wished him well when he left. The guy done a hell of a lot for this club over the years, and left after we were safe from financial ruin. People saying he left us in the lurch, they have a bitter taste in the mouth etc are a bit ott in my opinion. He left for better opportunities which Morton weren't willing to offer him, u can't blame the guy for that.
Plus, the obscene abuse he used to get on a Saturday from some quarters was nothing short of ridiculous. It used to make my blood boil.

Anyway, wheres this reply Mr Gillan? bag.gif laugh.gif

Perhaps he's 'out of the country'.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 08:52:41
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 10 2008, 08:44 AM) [snapback]474937[/snapback]
You give Nicola a wee standing ovation every morning in the shower Colkitto, ya mycky nationalist pup!
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*shudders* at the thought! huh.gif

That's a complete myth-it's common knowledge that Claymore C*ck-like all true Scotsmen has a quick wash in the burn every morning before milking the coo .
mortonjag 2008-07-10 09:01:47 Right folks-Mortonjag is going to brown tongue!


If the Mods have to decide anything fairly they have to have guidelines. In the case of age I think they had to extend those to a hard and fast rule.

I would have no problem with young Deego being 'in'-in fact we already have several posters who are clearly years behind him in maturity, but sometimes 'NO' just has to mean 'NO'.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 09:26:03 I've been in court more times than I care to remember, and also in prison on many occasions.

I've thought long and hard about the jobby eating. I'm unaware of any legislation to stop folk posting or viewing videos of an enjoyable Sunday Lunch.

One man's meat is another's poisson.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 10:13:38
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jul 10 2008, 09:39 AM) [snapback]474958[/snapback]
i think i have figured out a solution for this.

lets organise a celebrity boxing match in the town hall between Scott and Deeks. We could easily shift a couple of thousand tickets at 20 sheets a pop, and the money could go to the trust or another worthy cause.

Its about time we got this sorted out once and for all



That sounds quite a good idea.

I seem to remember something about Mr Gillan senior having been a boxer or something like that, so Scotty could do well, and I believe he should be given this chance to stand up for himself. As a family the Gillans have apparently been very involved in raising cash for 'Ton' causes in the past-this must surely be the ultimate challenge.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 10:23:57
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 10 2008, 09:41 AM) [snapback]474959[/snapback]
Back to the debate, Newlands fergawd's sake, feckin' newlands. Suitable for Parvenus like the Jag and DE. laugh.gif

The wumman's not all that aspirational or she'd be living in the Mearns. rolleyes.gif

SHE IS A LIAR.Down at Newlands Safeway myself and my lad shouted to her to give us a wave as she was buying a ball about half five in front of us.She looked straight at us from about 6 feet away and turned her back to us and walked away..Total ignorant asshole
mortonjag 2008-07-10 11:48:40
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 10 2008, 08:54 AM) [snapback]474945[/snapback]
That's a complete myth-it's common knowledge that Claymore C*ck-like all true Scotsmen has a quick wash in the burn every morning before milking the coo .
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.............as he hums, 'My love is like a red red rose' and spurtles his porridge all round the pot.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 11:55:08
QUOTE(Chris Davidson @ Jul 9 2008, 11:15 PM) [snapback]474822[/snapback]
...detest her beyond belief, just saw her briefly on tv there (some sorta lottery programme?) so called 'singing', utterly bereft of any talent whatsoever in a national spotlight, yet again. That horrible wee warbling voice which brings back horrific memories of all of the WORST EVER Scottish bands / artists EVER. Her advocates think she is being as soulful as Al Green / Aretha, but, despite her new haircut / makeover, all me and everyone we know to do is cry in despair at the poverty of the whole charade / debacle.....

Let's name some of 'em, the major sinners, the people who have trully embarrased us as Scots: S.P.s own group, Texas. Hue & Cry. Deacon Blue. Del Amitri.

Doesn't get much worse than that, but remind us all if I've missed some others!!!



Is this a bit like saying 'I f*ckin hate the SPL cos I'm a Forfar supporter'?
mortonjag 2008-07-10 12:00:40 Police are hunting a tall weedy looking young man in his early twenties! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-10 12:02:39 Police are hunting a tall weedy looking young man in his early twenties! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-10 12:08:35
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jul 10 2008, 10:33 AM) [snapback]474986[/snapback]
Yeah whatever , MJ wrong??? . That;l be a first laugh.gif

Neways back to the post

Im sorry Ive kept you all waiting for a reply Ive been busy with work . I didnt relise my opinion on this subject ment so much to you all .

I have met Derek Collins many many times over the years and also my dad as mentioned served on his testimonial commitee . Derek did indeed leave Morton for a reason and I held no malice towards him fot that . In fact I was shouting on him that day to show support amongst the morton fans booing him . He ignored us and in hinesight maybe he was getting grief and just kept his head down and got on witht the job .

I was a bit pissed off with that response and posted on the board . I think he has been a good servent to the club and I think it is good to have a "MORTON MAN" in the management team as it helps to explain to the new breed of players what playing for the jersey means .

I think rather than certain people harrassing me through this post over my post 18 MONTHS AGO they should maybe have a good look around at Cappielow and have a go at the people who abuse and harass MORTON players during games rather than someone who was upset and made a silly post on an internet message board. Something I have only done once and the fact it was towards JM is quite Ironic im sure a few of you will agree.

Id be happy to take part in a charity boxing match against anyone if it raised mone for the ton laugh.gif Any takers ?

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Are monkeys allowed?
mortonjag 2008-07-10 12:22:17
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 10 2008, 12:05 PM) [snapback]475047[/snapback]
how do you know what i look like? ohmy.gif

I sometimes slip the bag off my head when you're too busy to notice.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 12:29:23
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 10 2008, 10:35 AM) [snapback]474989[/snapback]
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I wasn't specifically thinking of you, young man! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-10 12:34:40
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jul 10 2008, 12:00 PM) [snapback]475042[/snapback]
Boozehound

Donga

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Guys' names for 'c*nt' can be very funny, but I've had many a laugh having to examine things described as 'my flower', 'my rose' etc. mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-10 12:38:22
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 10 2008, 12:24 PM) [snapback]475061[/snapback]
laugh.gif but really, you described me exactly. thats quite freaky old man.

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Would you believe I have photos of you? blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-10 12:42:34
QUOTE(foobs the elder @ Jul 10 2008, 12:34 PM) [snapback]475074[/snapback]
Granted Kev gave away a penalty at Livingston and was sent off, everyone else hardly covered themselves with glory.
Never tht that i would be sticking up for him, but if every one else showed his courage and determination week after week we would do ok.
Wake played great the last game at fir hill, but it was his only time and i still think McGuffie is a luxury player, only plays well when the team is on top.

Roll on Saturday

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Superkev would be a great squad player if we weren't restricted to a small squad of quality players.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 12:45:01
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 10 2008, 12:35 PM) [snapback]475076[/snapback]
Wonder why Largston isn't answering Scott's challenge.

Largston - the more you avoid answering this very simple question the more people will begin to draw their own conclusions.

It isn't going to go away. smile.gif
the words of a very wise man a few pages ago. tongue.gif

Maybe he's away getting measured up for gloves.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 12:47:45
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Jul 10 2008, 12:33 PM) [snapback]475071[/snapback]
He spent most time on his usual left. The pitch made it impossible to go at defenders with the ball at your feet. The slope required Tiger Woods precision to get a cross in.

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When was humping the ball across the box 'putting'? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-10 12:49:49
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 10 2008, 12:41 PM) [snapback]475082[/snapback]
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to be honest i probably would.

Mortonjag has many agents! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-10 12:55:00
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 10 2008, 12:52 PM) [snapback]475095[/snapback]
then you obviously werent watching the rest of the season when he was in our top 3 most consistent players for the whole season.

He is extremely consistent-in fact his consistency could be likened to that of dribbly mince
mortonjag 2008-07-10 13:09:33
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jul 10 2008, 12:55 PM) [snapback]475101[/snapback]
Chemical, Nerve,Blood ? ph34r.gif

Official secrets act prevents me from saying too much, but if you e-mail

fing@nailgun.co.uk

and provide the password 'shooglyphobiarulesok' you may get some clues!
mortonjag 2008-07-10 13:13:15
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 10 2008, 12:52 PM) [snapback]475096[/snapback]
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You appear to be suggesting that I regard you as immature.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 13:23:23
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 10 2008, 01:10 PM) [snapback]475113[/snapback]
he gives 2 or 3 good crosses a game, MORE than anyone else in our team, he is the only player in our squad who gets to the byline to cross . He can beat fullbacks, his fitness and tracking back is essential when playing wingbacks, he scores impotant goals when no one else in our midfield chips in with any.

we played a 3-5-2 which meant no fullbacks, and Mcalister always turns inside which means absolutely no width at all....except finlayson. Even just finlayson standing on the right hugging the touchline was doing more than half the players in our team did last season, he created space for other people and is the only person in our team who knows how to make any kind of space for himself.

He is essential to our formation, and essential to our team but don't let the fact he's not cristiano ronaldo get in the way of your deluded views of how great a team we have in this division full of world class players we're in.

Truth is PT that his crossing is dire, as is Jimbos. Neither of those guys is a wing back. Chris Millar would probably have been fine playing wide right now that midfield's sorted-and THAT'S the problem-DI is being forced to play them in the only place they kinda half fit in!

I know Jimbo has enigmatic potential (that might end up as his epitaph) and I know Kev works his baws off, but we desperately need guys who can get crosses over consistently, and those two are non starters.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 13:31:03
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jul 10 2008, 01:25 PM) [snapback]475124[/snapback]
You're a sick old man. laugh.gif

I'm not VERY old!
mortonjag 2008-07-10 13:33:52
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 10 2008, 01:17 PM) [snapback]475119[/snapback]
I did not!
PS - You smell!

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I smell many things-the nostrils and olfactory nerves are wondrous creations of God.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 13:37:01
QUOTE(upaclose @ Jul 10 2008, 01:21 PM) [snapback]475120[/snapback]
The only acceptable terms used in polite company are the "nge" triumvirate - Minge, Clunge, and Flange.

Which incidentally is the name of a local lawyer's office .

It's a dirty wee hole.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 13:57:11 Tripe and onions

Scotch Broth

Liver and onions

Braised kidneys and mashed tatties

Doughballs

Mince patties

Rice pudding with raisins

Kedgeree

There are hunners more from the days when food was a necessity and MacDonalds was the local paper shop.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 14:00:29
QUOTE(Tyrannous @ Jul 10 2008, 01:57 PM) [snapback]475156[/snapback]
Most people do there best to avoid.

And you and your pals appear to have adapted a mindset that "he can do no wrong" - he's not f***ing Jesus!

That's Crawford.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 14:02:58
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jul 10 2008, 01:58 PM) [snapback]475158[/snapback]
...and yet you mock the Gillan clan for taking a very similar huff laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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Subtlety is lost on asses.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 15:34:25
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jul 10 2008, 02:30 PM) [snapback]475181[/snapback]
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QUOTE(leyTON @ Jul 10 2008, 02:55 PM) [snapback]475195[/snapback]
were is that from MJ?
cant find it on the bbc. not doubting you just curious
as for the real alexander, the report about her doings is out today, as told in the herald, which i cant be arsed copying

The 'Herald'.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 15:47:25
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jul 10 2008, 02:31 PM) [snapback]475184[/snapback]
dont know what kind of special species you have mutated into, but food is STILL a necessity to the average human being !!

What do the 'non average' ones eat?

I hope you're not about to suggest jobby.



What I should have said, of course, was 'when folk could not afford to regard food as anything other than a necessity'!
mortonjag 2008-07-10 15:54:13
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 10 2008, 03:44 PM) [snapback]475232[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-07-10 16:12:29 I'm pissed off with people girning when we dare to criticise Kevin-I've said repeatedly that the man is tremendous in terms of workrate, and a great asset to the squad, but I'll say again, despite being contradicted, when he finds himself in an attacking position, he just gets lost, and his crossing makes me want to greet.


Mortonjag-OCT 2nd 2005!!!


And my opinion has NOT changed. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-10 16:16:13 Have tw*t and fud been mentioned?
mortonjag 2008-07-10 16:22:24
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 10 2008, 03:55 PM) [snapback]475239[/snapback]
I used to be in the same boat, but last time I was in London (May) two people commented on the money. Actually, one commented, and the other fat b*****d gave me a sort of withering look and asked me if I had any different money. I did, but I lied and said I didn't because he was a p***k.

In all my times in England this had never happened to me before until this year.

Were the three of you playing poker?
mortonjag 2008-07-10 16:25:43
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jul 10 2008, 04:19 PM) [snapback]475256[/snapback]
deego was the last on mine! cant call him gay cos im female!

mrs Ton whats yer secret??? iv only had 302 views huh.gif lol

Change your name to '38DD' darling, and you'll never keep up with them! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-10 16:30:36
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 10 2008, 04:17 PM) [snapback]475255[/snapback]
No one asked you!

Well you got telt.One of the best wee wingers we ever had was called Jimmy Wilson (long before your time mind) blush.gif

QUOTE(rex manning @ Jul 10 2008, 04:22 PM) [snapback]475259[/snapback]
Ah, I cant resist a good Finlayson debate!

He cant' cross a ball, beat a man or tackle very well. When he gets the ball I start reading Dougies column in the program until the opposition restart the game with their customary throw in.

However, i'm no longer angry or frustrated with him, i've made my peace, i'm resigned to the fact that he will most likely end up our most capped player ever, have a testimonial and probably end up manager at some point.

So now I just smile, misty eyed, when i see him galloping with his head down the wrong way because... and this bit is extremely important... he does try very very hard.


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mortonjag 2008-07-10 16:37:59
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 10 2008, 04:34 PM) [snapback]475269[/snapback]
Jimmy Wilson is my uncle. Well he could be for all i know. anyway if i hadn't f***ed my knee when i was 14 you'd now be raving about Jamie Wilson.

Aye, but wee Jimmy was WEE! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-10 16:45:33
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 10 2008, 04:40 PM) [snapback]475280[/snapback]
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i have a weak bladder if that helps.

That's why it's easy to take the piss oot ye!
mortonjag 2008-07-10 16:51:30 Why do you think I retired-they call me 'Shipman' and I feel slightly insulted!

BTW .......ARE you changing your name to 38DD, or even less subtle 'Big Jugs'. Your profile page will burn out in twelve hours! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-10 16:58:12 HEE HEE HEE


Them 1 Us 3


LEAFY


gets all three!
mortonjag 2008-07-10 17:05:48
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 10 2008, 05:02 PM) [snapback]475296[/snapback]
Maybe he's just out his wanking charot as he works nightshift. 1eye.gif

Suffice to say I'd be up for it but would prefer to fight PieHutt.

Can we not make it Muay Thai, though? biggrin.gif



I'll fight the Prof if you fight Scotty Boy.

I have a secret weapon BTW!
mortonjag 2008-07-10 17:12:21
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 10 2008, 05:11 PM) [snapback]475302[/snapback]
I'd love to see PieHutt get beaten about the ring by a pensioner. laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-10 17:16:38
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 10 2008, 05:13 PM) [snapback]475305[/snapback]
isn't that a sextape being banded about peoples phones?

NOPE-it's Piehole getting gubbed.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 17:28:37 Potato fritters

Pineapple fritters

Scones and pancakes

Rhubarb and ginger jam

Does anybody remember a thing called 'Ulster Fry'-came in tins-a bit like spam, and you fried it and served with chips and deep fried eggs-well my Mum did!
mortonjag 2008-07-10 17:31:18
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Jul 10 2008, 05:25 PM) [snapback]475308[/snapback]
4-4.

We're not talkin' about motors Iain.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 17:38:21
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 10 2008, 05:27 PM) [snapback]475309[/snapback]
Gun expert, courtesy of the OTC at Uni. Schools aren't that bad in East Ren. rolleyes.gif

JC in the temple, I think he was chucking out soapy Soutar and Wiggy Trump so it was the Judean Nationailst party.

Or was the the nationalist party of Judea? laugh.gif



Well them Romans eventually crucified him as some kinda Nationalist upstart-'King' of the Jews.

Jesus was definitely at different times a Tory, a Liberal, and a Socialist par excellence. The one thing he was NEVER was a Nationalist.


Bawheid take note-JESUS WAS NOT A NATIONALIST
mortonjag 2008-07-10 17:41:41
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jul 10 2008, 05:38 PM) [snapback]475316[/snapback]
McAnespie's now training with Wycombe Wanderers. As regards 'keepers, Adam Bradley is a very good young 'keeper. rolleyes.gif

That's excellent news Smiffy-have you been rewarding him appropriately?
mortonjag 2008-07-10 17:45:27
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jul 10 2008, 05:41 PM) [snapback]475318[/snapback]
To be fair, pgmsc posted the Newby 'rumour' on this site at 10.03am last Friday - long before it was in the papers. rolleyes.gif



Tell me Smiffy-are you really from 'Staines' or does that just describe your boxers.

The reason I ask is I'm conjuring up a wee Limerick which I think you might enjoy.

Have you spoken to Shoogly of late? He's awfy quiet!
mortonjag 2008-07-10 17:50:03
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jul 10 2008, 05:39 PM) [snapback]475317[/snapback]
from viz's profanisaurus

a clowns pocket - a very big, very wet fanny



Duncan McNeill is a clown's pocket.

Yes-that sounds just right.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 17:52:51
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jul 10 2008, 05:47 PM) [snapback]475325[/snapback]
You're getting confused with the trialist Lee Nicholls. Lee Mitchell is one of our apprentices. BTW, the coloured trialist you highlighted is Rasheed Kamara. rolleyes.gif

The medical photographer had one of those in dermatology.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 17:55:29
QUOTE(Tyrannous @ Jul 10 2008, 05:49 PM) [snapback]475326[/snapback]
From what i remember at the time, it had been ruggedly reported through various sources. My take on it that he was just guessing the inevitable. Lets not piss on his achievement though.

True-don't want to bring him down too quickly.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 18:33:16
QUOTE(Tyrannous @ Jul 10 2008, 06:18 PM) [snapback]475341[/snapback]
I thought I killed the wee b*****d!? ohmy.gif

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Well you didn't-he was shot through the chest a year or so back by Super Nanny who gave up in despair shortly thereafter .He has now survived hanging by your bad self. Who will be next?

Fing's hit list is expanding rapidly!
mortonjag 2008-07-10 18:37:21
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 10 2008, 06:18 PM) [snapback]475342[/snapback]
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3-1 to Morton by the way.

BOTH of us Naitch!

We can safely conclude that's a fact then! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-10 18:40:00
QUOTE(Jack Bauer @ Jul 10 2008, 06:36 PM) [snapback]475349[/snapback]
Season tickets should be allowed for these matches.

however i am assuming that they arent and the flimsy excuse give is that they have to pay the opposition..

makes you wonder just what kind of wage those part timers at Ayr are on? a fiver is more than enough to to watch a second rate and second division team.

I might attend the Hartlepool game but certainly not Ayr.

I asked the Partick fan at work whether his season ticket was valid for league games only..He duly informed me that he can get into one friendly and the first 2 rounds of the challenge and Cis cups if they are drawn at home.

so why arent we entitled to the same? mad.gif

JB.


Cos' Shoogly's skint.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 18:43:39 Durham, Durham,

Durham, Durham, Durham, Durham, Durhaaam
mortonjag 2008-07-10 18:48:08
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jul 10 2008, 06:43 PM) [snapback]475353[/snapback]
... is a sight which always makes me laugh. remember one time on the bus goin by the battery park. bus was pure mobbed and no-one talking to each other. it stopped cos the of the traffic just beside 2 mongrels rutting like there was nae the morra. i started pissing myself cos i knew everyone was mortified.

i swear the dug at the back was laughing back - tongue hangin out and a big crazed grin. mibbe u had to be there.

what always makes youse laugh???

Glesga polis in turbans.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 20:31:13
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 10 2008, 07:01 PM) [snapback]475375[/snapback]
Looking closely at Fing I'm sure there's a killer behind that nice smile that lulls folk into a false sense of security unsure.gif
Afterall Super Nanny is well buried under the patio.

After being nail gunned through both knee caps and having her head smashed to smithereens on her own naughty step! blush.gif

Fing is not to be messed with. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-10 20:38:36
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 10 2008, 08:33 PM) [snapback]475482[/snapback]
You don't respect me, I'm a nationalist laugh.gif

Salmond and Sturgeon are in politiics for the right reason
- to get independence for Scotland.

Unlike the countless Labour politicians who are in politics just to see what they can wangle out of the public purse and couldn't spell integrity.
Labour MP's like Gorbals Mick who cliamed £4k on taxi's for his wife. And the Labour MP who forced the Glasgow by-election on "health grounds" Who incidently was claiming £500k for his office and paying his staff. His office was his home and his staff consisted of his wife. He even had the cheek to claim travelling expenses for her.

...because they're on the f*ckin' make like all political scum Spurtle-greedy self centred c*nts who don't give a fig about the electorate. I'm not saying Bawheid's any worse than the rest-but only because that would be impossible.

He's doing his damndest though. ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-10 20:42:49
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 10 2008, 08:39 PM) [snapback]475492[/snapback]
Naw he's naw........... dry.gif

The man is a balloon and probably a pouffe too.
mortonjag 2008-07-10 20:48:57
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 10 2008, 08:28 PM) [snapback]475473[/snapback]
2-0 up playing with 10 men - good stuff biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(Tyrannous @ Jul 10 2008, 08:30 PM) [snapback]475476[/snapback]
I presume he has missed out McAlister smart arse. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 10 2008, 08:37 PM) [snapback]475487[/snapback]
mon e 10 men

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mortonjag 2008-07-10 21:17:37
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 10 2008, 08:50 PM) [snapback]475506[/snapback]
Naw he's naw.. dry.gif

Repeated blank denials always fill me with suspicion.

I conclude that at least one of you is a POUFFE
mortonjag 2008-07-10 21:30:20
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jul 10 2008, 09:21 PM) [snapback]475526[/snapback]
you are one scary individual! no my name is not changing! im on the piss most of the time and people tend to call me by my name not big jugs!!! lol

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I was only trying to boost your morale!

Try BIG JUGS of voddy, then! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-11 07:20:33
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 10 2008, 10:32 PM) [snapback]475560[/snapback]
Durham City 0 Morton 3

Morton cruised this game on in Durham’s immaculate little ground with its plastic pitch. The contrast between conditions tonight from last night at Tow Law could not have been more marked. The weather was dry and reasonably warm whilst the pitch was flat and lent itself to passing football. Morton started with what looks like being the first pick, at least until some of our injured players return and maybe even after that. The team was:

Stewart
Weatherson McManus Trialist (Smith)
Finlayson McGuffie Paartalu Masterton McAllister
Wake Newby


Just as on the Hamilton plastic, a few of our players found it hard to judge the bounce of the ball but once they settled they were well in charge for most of the game although Stewart did make a couple of decent saves during the game. The first goal after about 20 minutes was a nice passing move from Masterton to McAllister who found Wake in the box. He managed to finish well despite the attentions of a defender and the goalie who between them should really have done better.

The second goal was a thing of beauty from Paartalu with a sweet strike from about 25 yards. At half time it was 2-0 and the same team came out for the start of the second half. Within a minute Newby had scored the goal of the game. Weatherson found him out on the right with a long pass out of defence and from a spot about level with the 18 yard line between the penalty box and the touchline he fired a dipper across the keeper and into the far corner – Great goal which gave the keeper no chance.

Almost immediately the second Morton team took the park. Graham and Russell came on for Wake and Newby. The three black players came on for Masterton, McGuffie and McManus. A few minutes after that Stevenson and Lee Nicholl came on for Paartalu and McAllister and Bradley replaced Stewart. Lee Mitchell replaced Finlayson and then Kerrigan replaced Brian Graham who unfortunately picked up a knock.

The team was now lining up:

Trialist (Bradley)
Trialist (unknown black lad no 1) Weatherson Trialist (Smith)
Mitchell Trialist (Nicholl) Trialist (unknown black lad 2) Trialist (think Rashid Kamara) Stevenson
Russell Kerrigan


Only two players, Weatherson and Smith played the full game. Even with a team with 6 trialists and only 3 players with first team experience we were seldom troubled and Bradley only had one (easy) save to make.

My take on the game is that, strangely, Durham appeared a better side than Tow Law but they could’nt rely on their pitch to save them. Given Tow Law finished about sixth or seventh in the league and Durham won it, maybe its not so strange. As far as our lot go, I won’t comment on them all as I would be here all night but a few observations are:
  • Chris (Junior) Smith is worth signing. He’s a young player but handled everything put at him well
  • Russell’s ratio of scores to chances is appalling. Again he could have had a hat trick tonight. He was’nt missing by much but they were consistently going the wrong side of the post.
  • Kamara, if that’s who he is, looked good again and presented both Russell and Kerrigan several chances which they could’nt convert
  • The other two Black lads looked much better tonight on a sensible surface but the opposition was not great and so it’s hard to judge them.
  • Stevenson had his poorest (least good is maybe a better description)game of the three but still appeared to be trying and had some very decent touches. He is better in central midfield though rather than grazing out on the wing.
  • McManus has all the qualities to be the club captain – he looks our best signing.
  • Newby might make a serious impact on the first division
Anyway, all in all another decent run out and we saw all of the squad in action. We’ll see how things develop but even now we are starting to look far harder to beat than last season. I’ll reserve my judgement though until after Saturday and Tuesday’s games.



Thanks for the report. I'm assuming that your distaste for LEAFY is your reason for not even mentioning his goal! blink.gif

Anyway it's interesting to see that the best striker in the squad played the full ninety minutes.

I'm getting quite excited, and can't wait for Saturday to come!
mortonjag 2008-07-11 07:45:51
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 10 2008, 11:48 PM) [snapback]475600[/snapback]
Just to be clear, Tow Law were hoofing the ball up the park with some knowledge of how it would react on landing. It hits a molehill (of which there were plenty) or a hole (of which there were even more), its going to fox the opposition. They did'nt manage a decent cross into the box the whole game and it was their pitch. Crossing when the guys are either 10 ft below you or 10 ft above depending on the side of the pitch you are on is a significantly different skill to normal football.

If we had played Tow Law at Cappielow or on the pitch we were on tonight, we would have murdered them whether we had 'wingers' or not

Wingers as I understand the term, are from football I watched 20 years ago. The last of the breed were the likes of Davy Cooper. Now we have wide players who have to be able to defend as well. The need a far bigger range of skills apart from putting a cross in and if they are not good at that, they may well compensate in other areas. When did you see Jimmy Johnstone or Willie Henderson or Davy Cooper put in a saving tackle in their own box? The modern game is different although decent crossing is still a highly valuable asset for a player to have. Both McAllister and Finlayson have improved that aspect of their respective games but apart from that both bring other skills to the park as well.

Judging them on crossing ability alone is misleading.



One of the best left wingers Rangers ever had (Davie Wilson) played at FULL BACK against England for almost all of an international in which Eric Caldow broke his leg. That was FORTY SIX years ago! ph34r.gif

I'm not prepared to be drawn into a silly schoolboy argument over definitions. I remember we played at Gretna a few seasons back, and they were pumping ball after ball after ball, up the wings with rapid crosses being swung over. It was a f*cking NIGHTMARE for our defence.

We now appear to have a reasonably competent strike force. Our midfield looks strong if anything but silky (when will ANYBODY learn how to release a ball to LEAFY), but we're only going to score half the goals we should, unless we include decent crosses into our armoury, and PLEASE don't insult my intelligence by telling me that Jimbo and Kev are 'getting better'. Better keech is still keech.

Right-let me re-jig my post.


WE NEED TO CONSISTENTLY PUT DECENT CROSSES INTO THE BOX IF WE ARE TO TAKE FULL ADVANTAGE OF OUR STRIKERS



To me that reads 'we need wingers' but it's open to debate-just like the CRAZY debate we had a while back over the DEFINITION of a 'striker'.

Oh-and while I'm on...

SPOONSY WAS, IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE A GEORDIE



mortonjag 2008-07-11 08:01:16
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jul 11 2008, 06:49 AM) [snapback]475651[/snapback]
i don't see the humour in that. each to their own etc.

Nor did I.

I hardly ever watch any of those daft you tube clips right to the end, but the wee guy in the Morton shorts (where was the Millions logo Shoogly) was a f***in' good wee boxer.

I DID find some of the facial expressions amusing mind you-those guys were 'givin' it laldy'!

I'd willingly sponsor the winner to fight Scotty in the forthcoming charity boxing match!
mortonjag 2008-07-11 08:12:25
QUOTE(Mick @ Jul 11 2008, 07:30 AM) [snapback]475655[/snapback]
Hang on - Leafy = Russell? Perhaps you could explain that one later.

The score was 3 - 0 (Wake, Paartalu, Newby)....

Have I missed something, or are you referring to one of the previous matches?

Mick

PS. Many thanks for the updated Tonsilitis - very much appreciated.

You mean LEAFY didn't score!

Oh dear-in future I'll have to rely on newspaper reports instead of match threads-and I was getting all excited.

C'mon LEAFY!


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mortonjag 2008-07-11 08:44:05 Respect should, IMO, NEVER be automatic.

As a child I was taught to respect my elders and authority figures-a general rule which I still find useful, but as the Bard said, 'the rank is but the guinea stamp', and as I've got older I've realised more and more that respect has to be earned.

I've found the recent 'Derek Collins' thread highly entertaining-let's face it, the majority of half decent footballers are 'adored' by the fans but surely adulation and respect are something quite different.

I have respect for Collins, though I don't know him personally. That respect is based on my observations of the man's demeanour throughout his distinguished career, and also on comments made by people who do know him.

I was not particularly disappointed when he left to further his career in a coaching capacity (something which was made perfectly clear at the time). It had become obvious that he'd lost his old class. He made a wise decision as a professional sportsman-I'm sure he put his career and family MILES ahead of Greenock Morton at the time, and I endorse that common sense.

A couple of Morton supporters got upset because the Gretna player coach appeared to ignore their friendly gestures during a competitive match. Could it be that DC had more pressing things on his mind-perhaps he was distracted-maybe indeed he hadn't a clue who they were? Some folk after all are quite forgettable!

They felt he'd been disrespectful!

Anyhow, Collins was subjected to an unwarranted and libellous tirade on this pubic massage board. One of the 'offended' fans has offered some kind of 'retraction' but it's no comfort that at least one other poster is trying to argue the 'Collins left us in the lurch' case in some kind of defence of the original scurrilous diatribe.

DC is integral to our success this season. I'll judge his performance as time goes by, but just for the sake of common decency, I'd like to argue that Derek Collins actions in respect of the club have at all times been beyond reproach.
mortonjag 2008-07-11 09:50:54
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 11 2008, 08:14 AM) [snapback]475662[/snapback]
I did'nt mention his goal because he did'nt score! He should have scored on at least three occasions but contrived to fire past the post every time. I don't dislike him as a player and he has some decent touches and skill but his finishing is woeful. If he had converted even half his chances, he would have been our top scorer on tour.

That's fantastic news-all strikers go through lean spells-once folk learn how to release the ball properly for him and he gets his eye back in too he'll be knockin' them in for fun like he did at Dumbarton and Brechin.

C'mon LEAFY
mortonjag 2008-07-11 10:06:30
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 11 2008, 08:57 AM) [snapback]475675[/snapback]
Which one is the balloon? smile.gif

Spurtle's call! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-11 10:11:18
QUOTE(MasterTon @ Jul 10 2008, 10:21 PM) [snapback]475557[/snapback]
It destroys one's nerves to be amiable every day to the same human being.
MortonJag.

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C'mon-Mortonjag never made that statement.

'Famous statements' are just common sense sayings by famous people, and Mortonjag's not famous yet!

Here's one the Monkey made.


'People keep attacking my daddy-even a wee Munky can see they're losers'.

mortonjag 2008-07-11 10:17:13
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 11 2008, 10:12 AM) [snapback]475693[/snapback]
A more mature reply would be along the lines of " The man's sexuality matters not a jot nor a tittle".

Eck may homo, hetero, Bi or a goat botherer, these pecadillos should be irrelevant in a political discussion.
That said Mental jug may be correct.


tit·tle
–noun
1. a dot or other small mark in writing or printing, used as a diacritic, punctuation, etc.
2. a very small part or quantity; a particle, jot, or whit: He said he didn't care a tittle.

I agree that Bawheid's possible Pouffery shouldn't upset possible balloons.
mortonjag 2008-07-11 10:22:33
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 10 2008, 09:35 PM) [snapback]475538[/snapback]
Old people trying to be cool annoy the piss out of me. Buzz Killington, likes.

Just keep wearing the nappies then son.
mortonjag 2008-07-11 10:24:46
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Jul 10 2008, 10:38 PM) [snapback]475564[/snapback]
Is that the clap trap?

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Has anybody mentioned 'poosy'?
mortonjag 2008-07-11 10:35:46
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jul 10 2008, 10:23 AM) [snapback]474979[/snapback]
What did the deaf, dumb and blind kid get for Christmas?

Cancer.

I like sick jokes-I reckon I can be more disrespectful than most folk, and believe I've a good sense of humour, but I'm still trying to see the funny bit in that!

Is it quite subtle? blink.gif



What do you do when somebody takes a fit in the bath?

Fling in some washing powder and the dirty claes.
mortonjag 2008-07-11 10:50:06
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Jul 11 2008, 10:46 AM) [snapback]475702[/snapback]
sean....

Just seen your post and ..... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif :l

i was on holiday.....cant blame me

Jim

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QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Jun 30 2008, 06:42 PM) *
Mr Jag....you can be a pleb sometimes....button it for a change and actually try and not post for 5 seconds

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mortonjag 2008-07-11 11:26:04
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Jul 11 2008, 10:54 AM) [snapback]475705[/snapback]
well you can......

I do think some of the things you type are warrented...but the rest!!!!!

That's grand-it just read like a childish piece of criticism and I thought maybe your identity had been stolen by a wean! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-11 11:52:58
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jul 11 2008, 11:38 AM) [snapback]475717[/snapback]
Wanted : Transit Van
Why, what's it done? laugh.gif

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FOR SALE-Rotweiler-will eat anything-very fond of children.
mortonjag 2008-07-11 11:55:20
QUOTE(The Shuffler @ Jul 11 2008, 11:47 AM) [snapback]475718[/snapback]
" I can't fault the boys for their effort "
Guess who ph34r.gif

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'We'll just have to grind out results'!
mortonjag 2008-07-11 12:07:36
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jul 11 2008, 11:59 AM) [snapback]475722[/snapback]
"What the f*** was that" - Mayor of Hiroshima

TonInDublin

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'Why we should be performing to a higher standard away from Cappielow is a mystery which our Management is unable to solve'. wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-11 12:24:21
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jul 11 2008, 12:14 PM) [snapback]475724[/snapback]
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FOR SALE-Going Cheap

Two blue and white budgies.
mortonjag 2008-07-11 12:51:34
QUOTE(Mick @ Jul 11 2008, 12:40 PM) [snapback]475730[/snapback]
I've seen 'Breakfast in a tin', but never an Ulster fry.

There's nothing better than a good, home cooked (rather than out of a tin) Ulster fry.....

My Gran used to make tripe
and some of my aunts still love nothing better than pig trotters rip.gif


My Mum used to cook a whole ox tongue-she then put it in a casserole and put a plate on top with a big (56lb) I think weight on top to press it into shape.

It tasted nicer than anything out of the shops-don't know if she added extra seasoning or whatever.

Another thing we got when we were young and money was short was pease brose. It was a kind of acquired taste, but better than gruel-----------and of course properly made porridge beats anything out of a box, and costs about a quarter as much!
mortonjag 2008-07-11 15:12:04
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jul 11 2008, 03:04 PM) [snapback]475756[/snapback]
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/t...uth/7502036.stm

According to the above article, Davie Irons will be guesting for Annan Athletic tomorrow in a testimonial for Queen of the South defender Andy Aitken. Strange that he would miss our first real test of pre-season to play in a meaningless game unsure.gif



It does seem a wee bit odd.

I guess it was agreed before our fixture was arranged.
mortonjag 2008-07-11 17:02:13
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jul 11 2008, 03:30 PM) [snapback]475772[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-07-11 17:07:32
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jul 11 2008, 05:01 PM) [snapback]475789[/snapback]
if you find a yellow one, we can talk business wink.gif

WANTED-grand piano for young lady with Queen Anne legs.
mortonjag 2008-07-11 17:57:04
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 11 2008, 05:28 PM) [snapback]475796[/snapback]
Love them or loath them but they are certainly part and parcel of our clubs history but how many guys on here would ever admit to being part of that era either being a main player or on the fringes of the MSC.
I will be the 1st to admit I was involved with the casual scene right from the start and in some ways right up until what I saw as its death at the end of the 90s although a lot of lads will say it died long before then.

To the young PC guys and the older law abiding folk of the board I have to say I don’t regret any of it, I got into a lot trouble with the law, a few sore faces but the good times certainly out weighed the bad, I met litterly hundreds of lads through the scene I doubt I would have met otherwise and many became very good close friends I would trust my life with. People nowadays seem to think the MSC was just a crowd of no hopers who met up on a Saturday afternoon and went on an alcohol fuelled crime spree but it was a bit more than this, most of the lads socialised during the week with each other, took group holidays together it was in some ways rather like a family. I know lads who were heavily involved in the Morton Casual scene who are now policemen, prison officers, firefighters and successful businessmen (edit to add) and I also know many who are now addicts and alcoholics and there is also more than a handful that are no longer with us.

I have loads of funny stories as well as some of the more casual like stories people would expect I will tell if this thread comes to anything but I first would like to hear what others thought of the casual scene at the time and what your views are on it now thinking back whether or not you were actually involved. I would also like to hear what the guys thought of it who were involved and those not and from those who were maybe to young but saw bits of it or have heard stories maybe from older brothers, even fathers or uncles of what it was like and if they would have liked to have been involved in it at the time.

I have spoke to a few people who attended games at the time and although they were not directly involved they say it was bizarre in many ways because although it was not for them they were glad that the MSC was around as football violence was almost assured at most grounds at the time including Cappielow so it took the direct threat away from them. Is that the way most feel or are these guys in the minority?

Either discuss it properly or not at all.




WELL! mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif

I'm honestly not sure where to start to 'discuss it properly'. dry.gif

Let's put it this way, I've never had any time for gratuitous violent neddery. You and your ilk should be thoroughly ashamed of yourselves. I feel sullied to share a pubic massage board with you.

I'm not sure if that's what the MSC stood for, but if it did-sorry it's not my style at all.

I've successfully done away with 29 Midden supporters, three Killie supporters, four Airdrie fans, and one Ton Director, though the last was a complete accident which I regretted for at least a week. I'm still after the original target.

Add to that Fing's mounting nail gun tally, and we're well on the way to 50 murders successful cases. I can honestly say, though, that every one has been concluded silently, efficiently, and without suffering.

It's the violent aspect of fan warfare which upsets me. Most objectives can be achieved in a civilised fashion.
mortonjag 2008-07-12 06:14:34
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 11 2008, 08:47 PM) [snapback]475874[/snapback]
Was just listening to my heart beat with a stethoscopes there....fekin brill !!

Hey Spurtle if you listen carefully you'll hear this:



lub-dup, lub-dup, lub-dup, lub-dup, lub-dup, lub-dup.......................a nice regular beating sound which happens about 60 or 70 times a minute. P.m. me if it's anything different.

Now, keep the 'guessing tubes' in your ears, and click the link to your favourite smiling naked picture of a freshly shaved wee Nickerless.

Try to ignore the instant 'hard-on' and listening very carefully you'll detect a very rapid 'boobily droop-boobily droop-boobily droop-boobily- droop- boobily droop -boobily droop- boobily droop! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-12 06:24:18 'We certainly need to stop pushing the self destruct button and approach matters in a concentrated and composed manner'.


D.D.F. Rae 9/02/2008
mortonjag 2008-07-12 06:31:16 Anyone for a liquorice torpedo?
mortonjag 2008-07-12 06:38:53
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 12 2008, 01:14 AM) [snapback]475996[/snapback]
Surely when you get to your age nappies are the first thing you pull out of the underwear drawer on a morning? Or you still at the occasional dribble stage? I suppose fanny pads probably do the job then, eh?

A vulgar young man with an over fertile imagination, you represent ageism at its most despicable.

Fanny pads are very expensive-I just tie a wad of gamgee round my knob using masking tape from Lidls.
mortonjag 2008-07-12 06:58:05 As I suspected, gratuitous violent neddery has been endorsed.

I shall stick to the lethal injections in tranquil surroundings.

BTW did anybody else see Arfur and Shoogly bootin' f*ck oot a disabled Midden supporter under the Railway bridge on Sinclair Street in March 1961.

It was definitely them 'cos I heard ---' Douglas, shall we have a stramash', followed instantly by ' I'm up for it Arthur'.
mortonjag 2008-07-12 07:04:18
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 11 2008, 06:36 PM) [snapback]475815[/snapback]
that's some delay

Alistair Trumpet, the forum's very own Oscar Wilde. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-12 07:14:51 It's SUPPOSED to be a friendly, but I have a sneaky suspicion that one one or two of the Ayr lads will want to put one over on us!

The weather's looking good-I'm fully expecting a couple of hundred curious Ayr fans to turn out and reckon we might hit 1500.

I'm going for quite a tight finish-3-2 to the Ton, with LEAFY scoring from a penalty late in the second half! laugh.gif

PS the Monkey predicts we'll deliver four crosses into the box.
mortonjag 2008-07-12 07:33:36
QUOTE(Savo @ Jul 12 2008, 02:50 AM) [snapback]476018[/snapback]
I can hear the strains of 'cannae take it, cannae take it' laugh.gif
Takes skill to deal with a windblower in those gales, we harnessed the conditions better haha.
Plus the socks should have enabled you to run up the wing just like the 'soft-footed ponies' that Golden Casket go on about in their adverts on the back of the match programme laugh.gif

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You're well out of date!!

IF CONFECTIONERY WAS A SPORT, SCOTLAND WOULD WIN THE WORLD CUP WITH THIS LINE UP!



Chocolate Caramels






Butterscotch.... Buttered Brazils.... Dairy Fudge.... Chocolate Italian Creams




Polly Pastilles... Rich Liquorice Toffees... Chocolate Peppermint creams... Rich Butter Toffees




Chocolate Assorted Creams........ Glucose Barley Sugar




It's a pretty strong looking side, though I have reservations about the two central defenders. Buttered Brazils is guilty of nutting his opponents, and regularly picks up needless bookings, while Dairy Fudge can be rather soft in the tackle.
mortonjag 2008-07-12 11:04:51
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jul 12 2008, 10:49 AM) [snapback]476069[/snapback]
Will be good to get back to Cappielow, friendly game or not. Looking to see how Smith plays again, if he performs today he might well get himself a deal. Will be interesting to see if any of the other trialists get a game, Rashid Kamara for one who's had some pretty decent reviews from the last 2 games.

I don't know about anyone else, but I have a bit of a worry that Dean Keenan is going to injure one of our important players today blink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-12 11:13:22
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jul 12 2008, 09:27 AM) [snapback]476046[/snapback]
wtf is going on, where are all these females coming from??? i thought me and Mrston had this place all sewn up! is someone at the wind up here???

Aye, but you and Mrs Ton sound like PROPER women. No harm to Blue Eyes and her angelic wee buddy, but I bet the first time they read a word like 'knob' they'll blush like little girls.
mortonjag 2008-07-12 11:24:06
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 12 2008, 10:22 AM) [snapback]476060[/snapback]
My late mother was a fantastic baker, regretably not so hot at cooking meals.(well some)

Tablet (all sorts)
toffee apples
apple pies
scones
cakes
Dumpling (fantastic)
etc


sha was good at

mince and doughballs
stovies
liver and onions
soups - especially lentil!



Memories too of my Mum's 'clootie' dumplings-did yours manage to get a thick chewy 'skin' round them? Delicious cold!
mortonjag 2008-07-12 11:29:25
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jul 12 2008, 10:41 AM) [snapback]476068[/snapback]
Bring back the monkey and fing MJ !!!!!

TonInDublin



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Don't worry TiD, they're just having a wee break for study-they'll be back soon.

I was just wondering that nobody has mentioned the vulva by its proper anatomical name, though I've little doubt that I'm about to be called a decrepit old c*nt who doesn't know his motors.
mortonjag 2008-07-12 11:34:01 William of Orange is a


POUFFE
mortonjag 2008-07-12 11:48:43
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 12 2008, 11:44 AM) [snapback]476091[/snapback]
Do you have to shag Donga to get in, or blow off Boozy?

If so you can all f*** right off.

Bitches the lot of you ph34r.gif

Hi Sean-if you look at the Jessie Boys' announcement thread you'll find 18 pages of useful information!
mortonjag 2008-07-12 12:07:19
QUOTE(big blue eyes @ Jul 12 2008, 12:01 PM) [snapback]476097[/snapback]
I've noticed you have an awful lot to say old man. Well Angel and I have no interest in wrinkled old willies.

I'm hoping this Newby chap's all they're saying-he's supposed to be very fast and scores regularly. Anyway-off to get myself ready for the game.
BBE wub.gif

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You're hardly on here and already you're jumping to conclusions. Mortonjag is no more interested in wee lassies than you and your friend are in prune like penises.

I actually feel quite hurt. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-12 12:19:58
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 12 2008, 12:03 PM) [snapback]476098[/snapback]
Stuff reading 18 pages of useful info rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-12 12:25:13
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jul 12 2008, 12:21 PM) [snapback]476104[/snapback]
The very best of luck to Cowboy.

I hope DI and DC never have to suffer the embarrassment of their pupils running to the big Shoogly Headmasters office and getting their way over the management team. Shoogly should have dished out 6 of the best to his wayward brats.

Probably the most cringe worthy episode in DDF's tenure.



...and set him back two seasons in the process! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-12 12:29:27
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jul 12 2008, 12:25 PM) [snapback]476107[/snapback]
Aye, but we are real women, not a figment of someones imagination. rolleyes.gif

You're so right Mrs T.

Probably Puggsy or one of the other weans thinking they're so clever as always. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-12 12:40:18
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jul 12 2008, 12:14 PM) [snapback]476102[/snapback]
Aye, old Betty used make a right good plate of the mince and Tatties with the Doughballs blush.gif

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BUT

I couldn't help thinking that the best purveyor of mince and dough balls in Inverclyde in recent years has been Master Chef McInally.

Back on topic-did anybody else like hough as a wee snack after the broth had been made with it?
mortonjag 2008-07-12 12:45:36
QUOTE(Mick @ Jul 12 2008, 12:34 PM) [snapback]476114[/snapback]
Hey, you've forgotten the Chocolate Russian Caramel....wide left. Fantastic. wink.gif

Aye but he doesn't feature in the programme-I gather he's a bit of a super sub like this one


mortonjag 2008-07-12 12:55:18
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 12 2008, 12:31 PM) [snapback]476112[/snapback]
I have never had another name on this forum...I'm sure a mod could verify this if you really wanted to know.

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OOOPS-sorry young man-I didn't mean to offend-you just seem so full of mischief! blush.gif

QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jul 12 2008, 12:33 PM) [snapback]476113[/snapback]
Not that clever. rolleyes.gif A bit more subtle maybe. Trying to get the guys on here acting like a bunch of dogs on heat. Yes it worked. smartass.gif

I suppose she COULD be genuine-in fact it's maybe a wee bit hasty to be too scathing.

Mind you she DOES seem almost too good to be true-don't you think? blink.gif

Plus that other Angel eyes one.
mortonjag 2008-07-12 13:02:03
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jul 12 2008, 12:50 PM) [snapback]476123[/snapback]
sean,

just sent a mail to the mods to add you. When they get a chance they'll add you and when you refresh your browser the forum will become clear to you, in all its resplendent pishiness.

TonInDublin

ps I noticed Donga got offered a shag and Boozie a gumshy - yet I got feck all and I did the work for you - thanks for nothing mate !

Yer furry glove's in the post.
mortonjag 2008-07-12 13:46:48
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 12 2008, 01:36 PM) [snapback]476135[/snapback]

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So Jimbo and Kev were sent out for the half time Pizzas-aye very good Bryan.

The Monkey has been designated the task of totalling up the number of DECENT crosses from the two of them today. He shall report back! cool.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-12 13:50:41 I notice the taxi needs a new front near side wheel trim.
mortonjag 2008-07-12 17:52:36 More or less what Spurtle said-a total waste of £8. Disagree on one point-Ayr were FAR more up for it in the last half hour and thoroughly deserved to win.

Looks like we've beefed up the midfield and removed any creativity from it minus Midge, and the languishing Jamie. Defence looked improved in general but a couple of lax mistakes (one for wee Williams poacher's goal). I though Stewart looked not too bad.

I deliberately went to the Ayr end for the second half to get a good look at our attack. Jimbo and Kev-our so called wing backs were an utter waste of space today. There were five decent crosses in the whole game-two from Newby, two from Spoonsy, and one from Masterton, but nobody got onto them. I thought Newby looked lively-feel quite comfortable about him at this stage.

I said before I saw them-we'll be hard to beat this season, but I honestly see very little attractive football in prospect.

I hope I'm wrong, and SHOOGLY-I WANT MY £8 back.
DAYLIGHT ROBBERY
mortonjag 2008-07-12 18:15:07 I doubt if wee Williams gave a f*ck and he punished us with a well taken poacher's goal. Spoonsy was one of the few today who really looked 'up for it' when he eventually moved forward. Deano took no real abuse and was applauded off by the Ton fans.

I think Ayr are looking quite promising for a good run this season.
mortonjag 2008-07-12 18:21:18
QUOTE(mortonjag @ Jul 12 2008, 07:14 AM) [snapback]476032[/snapback]
It's SUPPOSED to be a friendly, but I have a sneaky suspicion that one one or two of the Ayr lads will want to put one over on us!

The weather's looking good-I'm fully expecting a couple of hundred curious Ayr fans to turn out and reckon we might hit 1500.

I'm going for quite a tight finish-3-2 to the Ton, with LEAFY scoring from a penalty late in the second half! laugh.gif

PS the Monkey predicts we'll deliver four crosses into the box.

FIVE to be precise! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-12 18:28:23 ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-12 18:36:43
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 12 2008, 06:21 PM) [snapback]476269[/snapback]
I've been to all our pre season games and that was our worst performance. I wonder if 4 games in 6 days (and 3 in four days) is catching up. I was surpirsed that we did'nt use more subs and thought maybe Stevenson might have provided a little more guile but maybe the manager is thinking of Tuesday now.

A few players did'nt turn up today. As others have said, McGuffie was poor and the trialist at left back had his worst game so far. Given he has played 90 minutes in all the games maybe he's due a little slack.

Jim McAllister looked completely disinterested today and has not played that well in pre season so far. Kevin on the other wing at least was trying and achieved more than McAllister today.

Newby got hardly any service but made the most of what he got. He'll be fine for us. Once again Russell showed that he has great positional sense and lousy finishing. He should have equalised but somehow managed to blast over from 3/4 yards.

Oh well, its only pre season but maybe the opposition today was a step up from the last three opponents!

When did this happen! mellow.gif I certainly saw McGuffie blast one over quite near the end.

As I said, I was up at the Ayr end all second half. Several times LEAFY screamed to the midfield to play the ball forward as he started a run and he was either ignored or had got into an offside position before the penny dropped! It takes two to tango-and by the way, his finishing was pretty lethal at Brechin including that during one match against us. If anything Wakey was the one who looked well off the pace today.
mortonjag 2008-07-12 18:44:31
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 12 2008, 06:39 PM) [snapback]476277[/snapback]
2nd half, ball fell perfectly for him about 3 yards out. Blasted well over the bar, and I mean well over mad.gif
Are you tryin' to take the piss Spurtle-I was effin THERE and he didn't play in the first half! ph34r.gif dry.gif


Was that IN ADDITION to the one I quite clearly saw McGuffie blast over-which resulted in him burying his head in his hands in disbelief? blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-12 19:31:13
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 12 2008, 06:59 PM) [snapback]476287[/snapback]
I'm basing that on what I know to be fact.

You seem to be suggesting that he's driving a wedge between the players and 'the club'! mellow.gif

QUOTE(lofty @ Jul 12 2008, 07:06 PM) [snapback]476289[/snapback]
i will second that.

So do you!

First it was Spoonsy the betting scam blaggard, followed by Spoonsy the 'Alky', followed by Spoonsy the overweight unfit 'couldn't give a f*ck' waster, and now ladies and gentlemen, we have Spoonsy the last bad apple at the club who's single handedly perpetuating some rift between players and Management.

Guys-I'm NOT suggesting you are wrong-I don't know either way, but this afternoon I saw a fit looking Weatherson who appeared well 'up for it'.

Could it be time to move on?
mortonjag 2008-07-12 20:59:37
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 12 2008, 08:02 PM) [snapback]476296[/snapback]
It was Russell with about five minutes to go. Ball came across to him 4 yards out and he smacked it over the bar. The identity of the culprit was confirmed by McManus shouting ' Unlucky Beany!'

For goodness sake admit that Russell gets into scoring positions (probably better than anyone else in the squad) but then does'nt (score that is)

See you MJ, you would cause an argument in an empty room!

The gospel according to Tonsilitis and McManus!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

All I know is that I was right up at that end-I saw SOMEBODY blast the ball over from close range-NO WAY was it four yards-more like ten to twelve-and I immediately saw McGuffie-head in hands looking like a very guilty party. I asked Spurtle if that was a different situation from the one you described and he ORIGINALLY agreed with.

Why don't YOU admit that we haven't YET found a way to release the ball properly for the boy-I bet he's twice as frustrated as the fans, and he DID score for fun at Brechin!

Oh-and Tonsilitis-my Mum used to say-'It takes two to make an argument'! blush.gif


C'mon


LEAFY
mortonjag 2008-07-12 21:07:47
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 12 2008, 08:18 PM) [snapback]476302[/snapback]
Sadly, that's pretty much spot on. Hard to dispute any of it. Like yourself, mj, I'm privvy to certain imfo that I refuse to publicise. smartass.gif
Totally disagree.

He may well have bust a gut on the pitch but giving his all for Morton includes maintaining a professional conduct off the pitch and respecting the jeresy, which he certainly never did.

His crocodile tears on the pitch at New Broomfield never fooled me, they were more than likely tears of guilt. dry.gif

As I said, I DON'T know, but if you and others DO know that Weatherson is 'BAD' for the Club right now, I find it inconceivable that the Club doesn't know too.

WHY are they not getting shot of him? huh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-12 21:12:10
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jul 12 2008, 09:02 PM) [snapback]476322[/snapback]
Was sitting across from Leafy this evening in TGI Fridays Braehead, in his Morton Trackie ph34r.gif



I hope he wasn't trying to salt his chips before the plate was on the table! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-12 21:23:39
QUOTE(ton_in_teuchterland @ Jul 12 2008, 08:00 PM) [snapback]476294[/snapback]
Inspired by the ageism thread, what are the biggest age differences between you and someone you've slept with? My youngest was 3 years younger, my oldest was 17 years older... ph34r.gif

Who's brave enough to share?

Mortonjag's new partner was exactly half his age when we met! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-12 21:33:09
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 12 2008, 09:09 PM) [snapback]476329[/snapback]
I've asked myself that question a million times. We should've punted him years ago. mad.gif

This actually worries me. We got rid of JM and the new DI/DC management team has been lauded ever since they arrived.

Word from the training ground (straight from the horses mouth and I DO know this) is that morale and motivation have never been higher.

You'll never get any squad where all the guys apply themselves to the same degree, but Spoonsy's looking fitter and more 'up for it' than for ages-so WHAT is he doing to perpetuate the rift which MidTONs alluded to?

If it's 'passive' and he still performs on the pitch, so be it.

If he's ACTIVELY mixing it-GET HIM TO F*CK NOW!
mortonjag 2008-07-12 21:41:48
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jul 12 2008, 09:35 PM) [snapback]476344[/snapback]
Russell definitely skied a decent chance over the bar at the Wee Dublin End.

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From exactly how many yards out?
mortonjag 2008-07-12 21:45:47
QUOTE(dmc @ Jul 12 2008, 09:26 PM) [snapback]476341[/snapback]
So you were 18?! ph34r.gif

Don't be a Silly Billy-I said Mortonjag's NEW partner, and I'm not telling you his age.
mortonjag 2008-07-12 21:49:45
QUOTE(rawheed rex @ Jul 12 2008, 09:45 PM) [snapback]476348[/snapback]
21,661 clap clap clap deep real deep

Every one a gem Rexy boy-just you listen to old Jaggy and you won't go wrong! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-12 21:53:15
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jul 12 2008, 09:43 PM) [snapback]476347[/snapback]
8.75 laugh.gif

Thank f*ck somebody saw it properly-could you do me a wee favour and p.m. that fact to Tonsilitis?

Don't be upset if he claims McManus shouted 'Hard luck Beany-and only 4.14 yards oot mate'! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-12 22:12:34
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 12 2008, 09:55 PM) [snapback]476359[/snapback]
Well? happy.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Well-you're NOT paying attention to the other threads!!!

Five half decent crosses-nobody got on the end of any unfortunately.

Two from Newby, two from Spoonsy, and one from Masterton.

On one occasion in the second half Superkev, for some unknown reason decided to attempt one with his left foot instead of taking on the defender-he sclaffed it. In the first half Jimbo turned inside his man (as always) and speculatively hit the ball across for one of the Ayr centre backs to clear.

That was IT. The Monkey took his wee calculator, but only needed the fingers of one hand! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-12 22:27:00
QUOTE(cmonaton @ Jul 12 2008, 10:15 PM) [snapback]476363[/snapback]
leafy is and always will be a second division player.he has been crap since he came here .time he was shipped out to where he belongs.

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That's the kind of statement which has a habit of coming back to haunt you. He has been disappointing, and I believe (note how I use the English language) he will improve, ESPECIALLY when others learn how to supply him properly. dry.gif

I wouldn't even describe Jimbo or Kevin as 'CRAP', but they are both F*CK ALL USE as wingers.

I wouldn't describe the current midfield as 'CRAP' but they lack imagination and seem never to have heard of a through ball.

What I would describe as 'CRAP' is unqualified opinion presented as fact.
mortonjag 2008-07-12 22:30:51
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 12 2008, 10:26 PM) [snapback]476369[/snapback]
What was the crowd like?

I'm sure we cleared 1000-probably nearer 1500. Ayr had about 150.
mortonjag 2008-07-12 22:34:22
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 12 2008, 10:29 PM) [snapback]476372[/snapback]
I simply haven't read all the other threads yet. happy.gif

Cheers for the update.

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I'm off to bed with my wee abacus! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-13 06:15:41 I'd imagine that if Sir David Murray came to Scapa for a Cup tie he could afford the full entry fee.
mortonjag 2008-07-13 06:37:20
It is my pleasure today to welcome Ayr United to Cappielow for what promises to be a stirring pre-season encounter.


ANON 2008
mortonjag 2008-07-13 06:49:06
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jul 12 2008, 11:45 PM) [snapback]476444[/snapback]
Youngest was 15 - my girlfriend at the time who was turning 16 three weeks later - it was on my 16th birthday.

Oldest was 53 when I was 22. Not good. Enough said. Mother of someone I was seeing who decided she wanted to blast a few tunes on a young pink oboe. Shudder thinking about it.

TonInDublin



Pity that-I once shafted a 72 year old woman and loved every minute of it.
mortonjag 2008-07-13 06:55:02
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Jul 13 2008, 12:17 AM) [snapback]476482[/snapback]
Is scot gillan naw gettin in then?
In fact, wheres saltyton?

Scott Gillan was a founder non member.

I'd love him to join the adults' forum-FFS we could help him to grow up to be a big boy, which I'm sure he'd appreciate.

I don't think he REALLY needs his big fierce Daddy to be holding his hand all the time.

I'd even tell him categorically that he
WAS NOT, IS NOT, AND NEVER WILL BE A POUFFE



Trouble is, I'd tell him on the normal forum but the words 'Gillan' and 'pouffe' in the same post will guarantee me an automatic ban from the BIG MOD POUFFE. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-13 07:11:26 Alistair Donald might offer him a wee sweetener to drop one on Fort Matilda! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-13 07:18:50
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jul 13 2008, 07:11 AM) [snapback]476547[/snapback]
You make some very good points there Barbie.
I was a young teenager at the time when the MSC first started out and it was exciting. I was not a member of the MSC but understood what it stood for and what it was all about. The clothes were a must and the music was great then.
Going on the footy specials, what an experience. Although I never reallly got involved in the fighting, bit of a s***bag tbh, there was a couple of occassions where I had no option but to join in, mostly at Love St. It was good to know that there was someone looking out for your back though.
Every team had a crew and I witnessed some great running battles coming out of footy grounds.
The MSC was not something I would either condone nor decry, it was simply part of my life and growing up process. I like many others, have made some good friendships over the years through my support of Morton. Many of these friends were battlehardened members of the MSC and it doesn't seem to have done them any harm.
Perhaps the moral code that was strictly adhered to by the casual movement, should be drummed into some of the youth of today.

Yours is the third or fourth post like this-all from guys I respect.

Clearly I just missed out on it completely as I'm older. When I went to Cappielow in my teens, I remember plenty of drunks and daft scraps, but I never saw any organised 'square goes', or running battles.

I still find it hard to associate gratuitous violent neddery with 'cultural necessity', mind! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-13 07:32:29 JOHN F Kennedy's father, Joseph P Kennedy, is credited with the wisdom which advocates "when the going gets tough, the tough get going". Phrased in hard-ball language, all Joe Kennedy meant was that running away from a hard problem was no solution at all.

As the by-election in Glasgow East enters its second week of campaigning, to say Labour have a tough time ahead fending off an SNP growing in confidence is an understatement. Labour's control of the electoral process looked tilted in its favour, what with a brief campaign period, a polling day held during Glasgow's fair fortnight holiday and uncomfortable legislation at Westminster, namely the Embryology Bill, rescheduled for later in the year. Opposition parties are complaining, but their complaints are low key and weakened by the recognition that, if their hands were on the tiller, they would be steering a similar course.

However, Gordon Brown's reluctance to visit Glasgow and campaign alongside the Labour candidate Margaret Curran is a problem of a different order.


Labour's mantra for the non-appearance of the Prime Minister has been simply that "prime ministers don't do by-elections". This isn't true. Tony Blair appeared once in a by-election, Hamilton South in 1999. The MP, George Robertson, had been appointed Nato secretary general. Rather than wait till the end of the summer and allow the MP to resign, Blair fast-tracked Robertson's peerage, holding a quick by-election in September. Private polling told Labour they would have a tough time in the constituency and, although Downing Street pointed out that PMs generally avoided any direct involvement in by-election campaigns, Blair went to Hamilton to show, as his aides pointed out at the time, "he was not afraid to face questioning from the public or political rivals". Labour scraped over the line with a 556 majority, losing 28% of its previous support. The point here is that Blair, worried he would lose a seat in Scotland just at the time the newly installed First Minister, Donald Dewar, was discussing his first legislative programme, ditched the convention that he should stay in London.

The parallels with Glasgow East are glaringly obvious. Brown's administration is under siege from all quarters; a failing economy, declining popularity in opinion polls and barely able to control his own party in the Commons. The excuse that prime ministers don't visit by-elections is lame, cowardly and shows disrespect for the electorate of Glasgow East that can only play into the SNP's hands. If Brown took the advice given to Blair, then Glasgow would offer him a five-star platform to face the public and his rivals.

Every political party needs its leader in a time of crisis. Brown says he is the man to lead Britain out of the economic crisis. So why isn't he the man who can help lead Margaret Curran to victory? The reality is that Labour have a leader who has not won since leaving the Treasury, not even the job of PM. His advisers fear that Brown's general demeanour, was it to be put on show in Glasgow East, would only harm Labour's chances. He is being kept away from Glasgow, not because prime ministers don't do by-elections, but because this Prime Minister can't do elections. That presents Labour with a looming problem: how will they keep Brown away from the 2010 general election? If Labour lose on July 24, that will be one problem the voters of Glasgow East may have solved for them.





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mortonjag 2008-07-13 07:51:05
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 4 2008, 11:23 PM) [snapback]471667[/snapback]
have you got your shareholding up above 1% yet?

You are one nosey c*nt Alistair. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-13 07:58:44 Donkey Dave told me a week ago that Alistair's back, and the forms have been duly signed. I'll be checking with Companies House to make sure THEY get it right! smile.gif

I was hoping to catch a glimpse of him yesterday at Cappielow. I wanted to ask him a wee question.

Shoogly was there (trying to look intelligent as usual), with a few of his usual satellites but there was no sign of AD. Shoogly couldn't have answered my question.

Anybody spot him in the Cowshed? blink.gif

mortonjag 2008-07-13 08:16:45
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jul 13 2008, 07:52 AM) [snapback]476552[/snapback]
My personal favourites (keeping it football related):
"All that I know most surely about morality and obligations, I owe to football"
Albert Camus

"The socialism I believe in is everyone working for each other, everyone having a share of the rewards. It's the way I see football, the way I see life"

Bill Shankly

I thought that was another 'Shooglism'. angel.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-13 09:23:59
QUOTE(Tooth & Nail @ Jul 13 2008, 08:31 AM) [snapback]476558[/snapback]
Didn't think they had as many as that. Very few travelling support.

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I was sitting among them in the second half and I did a rough head count.They thoroughly enjoyed it too! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-13 09:27:27
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jul 13 2008, 09:09 AM) [snapback]476565[/snapback]
It would have been a nice gesture if the club had donated to this project in some way. It does look a bit like the fans have paid to up-grade it, now we will start charging? unsure.gif

It's back to the old 'us and them ' thing Mrs T.

If there was not a palpable divide between the Chairman and the fans-this would not be a problem, and only ONE PERSON is responsible for that.
mortonjag 2008-07-13 09:48:10
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jul 13 2008, 09:35 AM) [snapback]476581[/snapback]
It just twigged on me. You can see the naughty subjects people have started on here when you check the profiles ! ohmy.gif Oh dear!

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Correct Mrs T.

You don't have to be a psychologist-just choose anybody's profile and call up the topics they've started.

Take Spurtle for example. It only takes twenty seconds to spot a rampant homophobic paranoid Nationalist! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-13 20:40:51
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 13 2008, 12:05 PM) [snapback]476629[/snapback]
hasn't mr donald written to you yet? laugh.gif

I've had several letters from Mr Donald.
mortonjag 2008-07-13 20:43:30
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jul 13 2008, 12:06 PM) [snapback]476631[/snapback]
Sorry you missed me Jag - whats the question and I will answer it now... rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif

Oh, you're still with us Dave-I just wanted to know if Alistair Donald is now officially listed at Companies House.

It'll save me checking tomorrow! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-13 20:47:00
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 13 2008, 04:50 PM) [snapback]476669[/snapback]
Thought I would have seen your brother at today's GMST AGM, with plenty of questions?

Would you care to explain exactly what that is supposed to mean?
mortonjag 2008-07-13 20:55:27
QUOTE(Last Boat Home @ Jul 13 2008, 03:17 PM) [snapback]476652[/snapback]
Went out last night and stunned to wake up this morning and find 5 pages on this blink.gif Williams got more plaudits than boos with the exception of a couple of tossers who directed some very personal comments at him. In terms of abuse it doesn’t even come close to what happened to the left back at Durham yet that was laughed off as banter.

Football is full of guys who have let their team down and the only thing that matters is they produce the goods Cantona being the classic example. Fergie only ever makes an example of players who are not good enough or past their best. I don’t know what Weatherson is alleged to have done but I do know that as long as Davie and Derek value him as a player they will tolerate him. I actually think he is one of our better players and his versatility makes him an asset.

What concerns me more (I know that its early doors and I really, really hope I am wrong ph34r.gif ) is that having seen Newby in three games he doesn’t look a better player than Williams (who scored with his one on one with the keeper,) and even more scary Chris Aitken looks a better player than Masterton who apart from one very good through ball yesterday has provided little to suggest he’s the deadball expert we all expected.


A neutral would have been hard pressed to spot the Division 1 side yesterday. FACT


QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Jul 13 2008, 06:07 PM) [snapback]476683[/snapback]
I only saw Newby yesterday and was reasonably impressed with him. His movement was good and seemed comfortable and mobile with the ball at his feet. He made a couple of good runs off the shoulder of the last defender and made the most of little service.

As for Aitken, I would take him in a heartbeat. He reminds me very much of Paul Scholes in the way that he rarely wastes a ball and is good for 5-10 goals a season. Him and Keenan will do a good job in midfield for Ayr this year.

What concerned me most on yesterday's showing was that I couldn't see anyone from that midfield 5 making a killer pass. Jim was woeful, Kevin was a bit better but still didn't really threaten and McGuffie and Paartalu were very quiet. I was pleased with the way Masterton constantly dropped deep and looked for the ball from the back 3 and most of his passes found Morton players. However, while he can dictate play from in there, he cannot split defences on a regular basis; for that I reckon that the only player in the squad who would be capable of that is Jamie Stevenson (possibly Weatherson too) because while McGuffie and Paartalu do a decent job, I have yet to see anything from either that would suggest they could provide that wee bit creativity in the opposition half. I reckon that if he were given a little freedom to roam, Stevenson could provide that creativity with Masterton pulling the strings from deep.

I've been saying we'll be hard to beat and dire to watch!

QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 13 2008, 06:24 PM) [snapback]476691[/snapback]
the thing that concerned me was we are useless at playing a 3-5-2 formation, we had no attacking threat at all last season when playing it and it looks like its going to be the exact same this time. Whats the point in having Wingbacks who have to think about not getting caught out when they go on the attack and also three midfielders, none of whom runs past the forwards. Mcalister is being wasted again when we play him at wingback.

we looked twice the team we were for most of last season when we went to 3-4-3, our defence looked stronger as we basically had two holding midfielders, Finlayson didn't have to do all the work on the right on his own, and finally Jim looked to have found a position in which he could flourish. We looked like we'd score two or three every game and didnt really look like conceding.

i don't see why we haven't stuck with that.

I know its only a friendly but after seeing that performance im dreading playing this season with 3-5-2 as we have no attacking threat, just brought back so many memories of the dross we had to suffer last season.

We need wingers.
mortonjag 2008-07-13 21:03:26
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jul 13 2008, 02:29 PM) [snapback]476644[/snapback]
I thought big smith looked ok yesterday and could be a good addition to the squad.

I was surprised that Stevenson never came on yesterday. With the team finding it difficult to break Ayr down I would have liked to have seen him come an at half time and play just behind the front two. We missed a bit of creativity yesterday and with him showing an improved attitude and hunger last week I found it strange that he never got on and attack their defence


So was I!
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Jul 13 2008, 02:51 PM) [snapback]476649[/snapback]
You are not wrong. It was Russell. Couldn't hit the proverbial barn door.

I thought no2 was fine when playing as part of a back 3 but lost when pushed forward to accomodate Weatherson.
Smith at 3 was OK , still feel we lack pace at the back, creativity in midfield and clinical finishing, but apart from that ! Pre season better than close season but we need the real thing to see how good they are.

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Is that why he was signed?

QUOTE(Last Boat Home @ Jul 13 2008, 03:28 PM) [snapback]476654[/snapback]
Does that mean 99.9% of your posts are "CRAP" wink.gif

No.

QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 13 2008, 06:11 PM) [snapback]476684[/snapback]
he missed 4 one on ones with the keeper on monday, apparently should have had a hat-trick on thursday according to andy and skied the ball over the bar from 6 yards out yesterday.

we're releasing him fine, he's just a terrible finisher.

KEECH
mortonjag 2008-07-13 21:14:15
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 13 2008, 04:02 PM) [snapback]476657[/snapback]
the question has been asked

Which question?
mortonjag 2008-07-13 21:19:56
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 12 2008, 09:20 AM) [snapback]476044[/snapback]
Ps FTAO what happened to the photo of you and monkey???

BRING BACK THE MONKEY!!!!! sad.gif

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QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 13 2008, 10:24 AM) [snapback]476599[/snapback]
The Monkey's name is Fing, please don't be so ignorant in the future tongue.gif

Aye, MJ get his pic back up.

The boys are just having a few days study leave and a wee makeover. They'll be back soon!
mortonjag 2008-07-13 21:22:49
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jul 13 2008, 08:18 PM) [snapback]476735[/snapback]
Ok, thanks for letting em know. I had to put my old PC back on as the one I bought from you wont start up anymore, I probably broke it.
I'll miss our chats
missing you already. NOT
I never speak to you on there anyhow
fine
dont know, it's not a priority. When you goannie get me those photo's ?
aye we went camping to Balmaha and to a Thai garden party at Loch Earnhead
That's correct, that's for letting them know.

Hi WDE-did you get my reply to your p.m.?
mortonjag 2008-07-13 21:29:52
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jul 13 2008, 10:52 AM) [snapback]476606[/snapback]
My last visitor was the Jag himself wub.gif

I only visit class profiles! wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-13 21:33:33
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 13 2008, 10:37 AM) [snapback]476602[/snapback]
When I was a lot younger I told that joke to my Mum.

After it she explained that the reason she had to take tablets every day was because she was an epileptic.

How did one feel after that one blush.gif

If your sense of humour's hereditary she should have been convulsed with laughter! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-13 21:38:04
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 13 2008, 10:05 AM) [snapback]476594[/snapback]
Yes but what age weer you then MJ??????

repeated ps. bring back the monkey photo! smile.gif

89

QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 13 2008, 08:03 PM) [snapback]476724[/snapback]
so she's not anymore? i take it her name was lady and she likes long walks in the park, when you rub her tummy and likes to sleep at the bottom of your bed?

Don't be jealous-and in case you're scared of rabies, I always wash my knob before we meet.
mortonjag 2008-07-13 21:48:58 Hey guys-I've been enjoying reading all those gratuitous violent neddery stories! laugh.gif

The one thing that sticks out a mile is that there was a 'togetherness' among the fans. Has that now disappeared from all Scottish football clubs, or is there something intrinsically fragmenting about the current set up at Cappielow?
mortonjag 2008-07-13 21:52:04
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 13 2008, 09:19 PM) [snapback]476770[/snapback]
why are you sticking up for someone who needs 10 chances to score 1 and doesn't know the offside rule? Templeman was a regular scorer at 2nd division level before he came to us, and got a few for us in our last year there. He would never be a regular goalscorer in the 1st division, and neither will Russell.

I do think Russell adds something to our team, but its definetely not goals.

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Mortonjag has been doubted and abused many times before! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-13 21:57:35
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 13 2008, 09:16 PM) [snapback]476767[/snapback]
That's opinion, son. Even you should know that. wink.gif

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It is a fact. Facts do exist, and Mortonjag is careful to differentiate between fact and opinion.

Anyone who could differentiate between the two yesterday on the standard of play, would be described as fanciful rather than neutral. FACT. angel.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-13 22:01:54 I thought wee Shields was well worth his place in Division 2. It's funny how you sense the discrimination about his height-ironic almost! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-13 22:04:59
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jul 13 2008, 09:24 PM) [snapback]476779[/snapback]
Hello MJ, I did thanks, I've just returned from a short break tonight and will reply to your reply in the morning, at which point I hope you will reply to my reply of your reply.

TY!
mortonjag 2008-07-13 22:17:26
QUOTE(james-m-1874 @ Jul 13 2008, 10:07 PM) [snapback]476838[/snapback]
i'm just stating this as from the recent signings thats all ...

I wasn't aiming anything at you. Shields was regularly pilloried by a number of our fans because of his lack of inches, rather than ability. The wee guy had baws and was far from useless, but was another who had to conform to JM's bizarre game plans.
mortonjag 2008-07-13 22:24:05
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 13 2008, 10:02 PM) [snapback]476831[/snapback]
I don't remember seeing their request sheet posted on the board.

Personally I blame the parents rolleyes.gif



They are usually too embarrassed to post because folk don't understand their spelling and grammar.

Here's an example from the Monkey.


Eye fink wylymanne izza pufe.
mortonjag 2008-07-13 22:27:49
QUOTE(Roger Mellie @ Jul 13 2008, 09:52 PM) [snapback]476814[/snapback]
Rumour has it Mortonjag that in the 80's the only name you answered to in the Shed was "The General".

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Aye-well I think he should get the lads together again and sort out the general mess that's been created by our 'Commander in Chief'. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-13 22:31:02
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jul 13 2008, 09:52 PM) [snapback]476816[/snapback]
Maybe, but only if he wants to take out Lynedoch Street.

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My Uncle Jimmy used to stack up his coal lorry at Lynedoch Street.
mortonjag 2008-07-13 22:33:28
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 13 2008, 10:23 PM) [snapback]476853[/snapback]
LOL!!! I actually spat my wine, er sorry, beer out there!
Anyway, it's 9 years older and 6 years younger for me. Not too shabby. I'd like to improve upon this.

Mortonjag awaits your pleasure young man.
mortonjag 2008-07-13 22:38:00
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 13 2008, 10:28 PM) [snapback]476860[/snapback]
God knows where you find the obscurist of videos but hey you do.

TBH I thought at 1st it was a link to....
http://www.greenockmorton.org/forum/index....showtopic=21771

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I waited for ages for that download 'cos I was expecting the good one where the jobby looks like Jamaican ginger ice cream from St Andrews and they put it in the glass and eat it.
mortonjag 2008-07-13 22:43:46
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 13 2008, 10:36 PM) [snapback]476869[/snapback]
Did you get the appropriate counselling unsure.gif

......or did your Daddy insist on meeting him to sort it out face to face?
mortonjag 2008-07-13 22:55:08
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 13 2008, 10:42 PM) [snapback]476875[/snapback]
Well actually she did so I filled the bath with water........... tongue.gif

That was a fitting response.
mortonjag 2008-07-13 22:59:35
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 13 2008, 10:47 PM) [snapback]476881[/snapback]
Yum, yum.
PS: shouldn't you be tucking the monkey's up unsure.gif

They're sleeping with their Mum tonight! blush.gif

QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 13 2008, 10:53 PM) [snapback]476886[/snapback]
I remember after being hospitalised when 16 after bursting my knee (not the medical term) I went 4 days without a s***e.

When I finally relieved myself it felt like I was giving birth to a cross-bread pineapple/hedgehog thing. But once started there was no way this badboy could be pinched...it had to come out in the one go.

Afterwards I felt fan-f***ing-tastic!

It takes real courage to have a J Arthur in front of all those young nurses.
mortonjag 2008-07-13 23:03:46
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 13 2008, 10:52 PM) [snapback]476885[/snapback]
Opinions matter, accents, like skin colour, only annoy fascists. mad.gif

When I hear a North Wales accent it reminds me of the birch.
mortonjag 2008-07-13 23:06:19
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 13 2008, 11:02 PM) [snapback]476894[/snapback]
Sorry Doc but your hole's been plundered that much by the yoof on here that I'd end up with at leat one STD.

I shall perform a knob job instead if you prefer.
mortonjag 2008-07-13 23:08:12
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 13 2008, 11:01 PM) [snapback]476893[/snapback]
Doea anyone else love hangover s***s? Mine are always well constructed torpedos that slide out easy. Sweet.

Talking of hangovers-why do they make you randy?
mortonjag 2008-07-13 23:10:15
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 13 2008, 11:07 PM) [snapback]476901[/snapback]
What the f*** is a "knob job"? Is that 1952 speak for BJ? You dirty old quack you.

A semen supper young man-and I've just had my new dentures fitted BTW.
mortonjag 2008-07-14 08:27:35
QUOTE(james-m-1874 @ Jul 13 2008, 10:37 PM) [snapback]476871[/snapback]
Deego I'm askin for peoples opinion on jay thats all ...im not askin for a argument

And for it being a stupit thread your replyin quite a bit ....maybe you should leave then

I'l give you a serious reply son-since Kev Finlayson is a useless winger and we no longer need him in midfield, I'd rather have a player who could put in a decent shift at right back.
mortonjag 2008-07-14 08:37:56
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 14 2008, 12:29 AM) [snapback]476952[/snapback]
Here, not to change the subject, but I pass you in the motor all the time and ye dingy me. Dingy! Up yours! Unless it isnae you in which case I apologise.

Don't try to get that c*nt into self awareness-he ain't up to it.
mortonjag 2008-07-14 08:54:21 Pastille Day, the Inverclyde local holiday, commemorates the storming of the Pastille, which took place on 14 July 2008 and marked the beginning of the Ton Revolution. The Pastille was a Fudge Factory and a symbol of the absolute and arbitrary power of Shoogly the 1st's regime. By capturing this symbol, the people signalled that the Chairman's power was no longer absolute: power should be based on the people.


Symbolic of the tyranny was the famous quote attributed to Shoogly 1sts French born wife Marie Antoinette, (or 'HUR' as she was known in the Pastille) when told the fans were hungry for goals.

'Qu'ils mangent de la brioche'--then may they eat bread! happy.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-14 09:11:16
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 14 2008, 12:05 AM) [snapback]476931[/snapback]
There's a lot of whoopee doo noises coming from the flat above.

The girl is single and from the Port, so it explains it all ohmy.gif
She's not long moved in and I have seen several unfamiliar male faces pass me in the close when going to work in the mornings.

Although I've never heard her at it in the past I can assure LCM that I now have his old neighbour laugh.gif

Aye very good Willy Man-you knew all along and waited till the poor c*nt put his hoose up for sale on medical advice.


Vibration White Finger (VWF), commonly known as Hand Arm Vibration Symdrome (HAVS) is a recognised condition caused by exposure to hand transmitted vibration, associated with the use of vibrating tools and causing a restriction in the blood supply to the arms or hands


mortonjag 2008-07-14 09:27:38
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jul 14 2008, 05:17 AM) [snapback]476970[/snapback]
a hollywood s***e is one that wipes its feet before entering the world. identifiable by a virginal piece of 2-ply after the wipe.

there are few better feelings than having a hollywood jobby. the initial dawning realisation that your arse feels pretty good is followed by elation on seeing the unsoiled andrex - your bangle feels refreshed and you exit the cludgie with a real spring in your step.

unfortunately they are quite rare. i read a paper in nature not long ago that postulated their ratio to wipers, smudgers and smearers as about 1:250.

That's probably quite accurate. The secret of a true Hollywood s***e is in the diet. Anyone seriously interested, log on to shineonmyshyte.com., for free advice and a diet sheet costing £10.
mortonjag 2008-07-14 09:34:15 Alistair Trumpet outed as Sean D******y laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-14 09:36:17
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 14 2008, 09:18 AM) [snapback]476982[/snapback]
Maybe Mortonjag's younger brother didn't receive any communication from the trust to inform him of when and where the AGM was.

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Indeed MidTONs-this new thread has many possiblities-I can feel a twenty pager 2000 plus views coming on.

I will, however, await Sean's considered response. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-14 09:43:49
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 14 2008, 08:30 AM) [snapback]476973[/snapback]
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The boys are just having a few days study leave and a wee makeover. They'll be back soon!
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thanks I thought we had lost them forever! smile.gif

If you promise to keep this VERY quiet-I'll tell you the real reason. They're off getting their graduation photographs taken. I don't want to say more right now, but they've done really well at a PROPER University.
mortonjag 2008-07-14 09:47:17
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jul 14 2008, 08:56 AM) [snapback]476977[/snapback]
how do u know what i'm upto u creepy old sack?

Someone who freely discusses his defaecatory habits on a pubic massage board is singularly unaware of himself.

I'd never mention my occasional blue and white motion to a living soul.
mortonjag 2008-07-14 09:52:23
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jul 14 2008, 09:47 AM) [snapback]476991[/snapback]
Just back from holiday. Can someone give me a brief update on who we have signed? - who is this guy Newby? Who are the three black players mentioned in reports? Seems like a lot has been happening while I've been away.

Jonaton's yer man for the fine detail. Nothing much has really changed but Google Jon Newby-we HAVE signed him.

PS Bawheid shot himself after being outed as a POUFFE, and wee Nickerless is our new First Ministress.
mortonjag 2008-07-14 09:57:29
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 14 2008, 09:55 AM) [snapback]476995[/snapback]
I cannot believe me you did that. That's the last time I tell you say anything to you via MSN if you are going to steal it and use it for your own posts. mad.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-14 10:53:43
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 14 2008, 10:05 AM) [snapback]476999[/snapback]
Just as i said MJ, I thougt I would have seen your Bro there with planty of questions.

PS, is Midtons blowing you off rolleyes.gif f?

To answer your second comment firstly, Jim and I have no intention of publicising details of our relationship.

Now-to your first. unsure.gif

I have four brothers (rubber had not been discovered when my parents were married), and they are all Morton supporters. I know for a fact that one of them is a Trust member-the other three may be too!

One of them is 'out of the country' at the moment, one is in London, and the other two live in Inverclyde/Cowal.

I'm afraid you'll have to specify which brother you were looking for at the AGM before I can respond in any more detail. blush.gif

QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 14 2008, 10:07 AM) [snapback]477000[/snapback]
Do I detect a hint of jealousy. wub.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-14 10:58:38
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jul 14 2008, 10:13 AM) [snapback]477001[/snapback]
Good Morning Doctor,

I've written to you now. I await your advice.

Thanks WDE-I'll chew it over and get back to you. I have many people to kill deal with today! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-14 11:01:40 I just remembered 'Rock cakes'-coconut based with a soft chewy centre and a very hard sweet crust!
mortonjag 2008-07-14 11:04:04 Yer maw's so fat, they'll have to chop her up to bury her.
mortonjag 2008-07-14 11:48:48
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jul 14 2008, 11:11 AM) [snapback]477014[/snapback]
Shields was pretty useless. Dean Keenan without the skill. Was too slow, had awful control and for his ability for to put a foot in never really done much else. On top of this he was dropped twice for being late was he not and eventually told to get to f*** for his behaviour? McGregor or Walker, f*** even Finlayson, would offer more as a full back and who would he play ahead of in midfield?

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mortonjag 2008-07-14 13:39:21
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 14 2008, 01:03 PM) [snapback]477038[/snapback]
In reply to your first part, there is no need to, Jim was boasting about it at the weekend unsure.gif .

Only one brother is a member cool.gif

AH!

I thought there might be more to this than met the eye. Obviously you've gleaned that information from the secret documents of the very secret society to which you now appear beholden! rolleyes.gif

Ok-and how do you KNOW he wasn't at yesterday's well publicised AGM of the said secret society? bag.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-14 13:54:36
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 14 2008, 01:33 PM) [snapback]477051[/snapback]
As this affects me I thought I’d comment on this change, having been given a run through on the legislation legally they haven’t done anything wrong in fact it removes any questions folk have about it being free. However the questions midtons raised may be felt by a few. The cost may be a bit much for some, and there might be issues raised by some of it going from being free to the figure quoted as being a great hike in price in one go. I will get a season ticket and will simply stop my shirt sponsorship, but I can understand it maybe an issue paying for some.

The amount being charged should also depend on the view and the facilities offered and the view that you get, at grounds/clubs like St Johnstone, Hearts, Dunfermline, Dundee, Dundee United, away bit at Ibrox, behind the goal at the home end of Love St and the upper level at Hampden all have great views and facilities and price should reflect that. We have great facilities but the view is ok but isn’t the best as there are areas of the pitch you can't see and at times its hard to judge where the ball is going.

I think the club feel they have little choice but to implement it, however I can understand if some that helped fundraise feel disappointed.

It's a shame that you've been forced to do that. Do you think the new measures will make the disabled fans feel more wanted by 'the club'?
mortonjag 2008-07-14 14:01:40
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jul 14 2008, 01:16 PM) [snapback]477042[/snapback]
Wasn't at the game, but imo this guy is a knob and would have happilly booed him (and I can't think of anyone who I've booed before).

Read the report in the Hunday Mail at TinthePark, and was pretty raging how he referred to the 'real fans who went week in week out' who cheered him. What a total pr1ck. I was there week in, week out watching a promising youngster whittering away what should have been an SPL career to become a mediocre journey man part timer.

So what he had a good 14 months or something for us... eh that's what we were paying him to do. Interesting how things dried up after he got his new contract etc.

Too busy swanning about Word Up and going for Sun Bed's like a few of his fellow so called professionals of that era.



Most of the real fans were at the game instead of hoping to get their hole at some spaced out pop festival.
mortonjag 2008-07-14 14:06:03
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 14 2008, 01:16 PM) [snapback]477043[/snapback]
His second touch was always a tackle and it wasnt his footballing ability that made him leave, so there is no point discussing it.

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Aye he WAS a vicious wee c*nt PT-coaxed you into his boudoir with promises of 'shag a go go' and booted f*ck oot yer erse the minute ye drapped yer troosers.

That's no reason to decry his footballing ability.
mortonjag 2008-07-14 14:12:49
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 14 2008, 02:04 PM) [snapback]477056[/snapback]
with me i did it to contribute to the club, so im still contributing but in a different way.

it makes everyone a paying customer so disabled fans have more rights, i dunno if it makes me feel more wanted.

The point in your own case is that you previously contributed to the club by choice. Now your hand has been forced.

I DON'T think all disabled fans should automatically get in to ALL football grounds free of charge.

I DO think the relationship between the current Board at Cappielow, and ordinary Morton fans is atrocious.
mortonjag 2008-07-14 14:21:23
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 14 2008, 12:28 PM) [snapback]477030[/snapback]
The old grannies remedies don't work, get yourself to the hospital for a dose of light treatment, Mortonjag should confirm that this is the best treatment for such a condition.

This thread's a wee bit pointless, simply because psoriasis varies from being a trivial skin condition to a life threatening illness often complicated by severe arthritis.

It's also well documented that what works for one often won't help another.

The only two things I've always found helpful in psoriasis are a healthy, high fibre, almost vegetarian diet (including some 'omega' rich fish) and plenty of sunlight.

mortonjag 2008-07-14 14:27:29
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 14 2008, 02:23 PM) [snapback]477064[/snapback]
i didnt mind him and he was useful to have the first 6 months we were up when we didnt have one person in our squad who wasn't frightened to tackle including our two central defenders who were so low in confidence they were too scared to tackle , but we have plenty of people who can tackle now and he wouldnt get in our team ever. He would have been out the door this summer anyway if his behaviour hadn't got him thrown out earlier.

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Aye-and NO right back.
mortonjag 2008-07-14 15:17:46
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 14 2008, 02:37 PM) [snapback]477066[/snapback]
Cos no-one with a pet monkey turned up...or is that not a family thing? unsure.gif

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Poor show sonny bean-poor show indeed!

Tell the truth now-there were only twenty two folk there and you knew every one personally.

Oh-and the Monkey is my SON.
mortonjag 2008-07-14 15:23:32
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 13 2008, 05:02 PM) [snapback]476673[/snapback]
I hear a rumour that the car park at Cappielow is being pencilled in as the site for the new James Watt College, as part of the regeneration that is going on.


If this is true, what about the plans for a Disabled Ramp? Wouldn't like to think the hard work done by Stuart and the Spinnaker boys, plus all those who donated going to waste



Did you hear the rumour at yesterday's AGM of the Secret Seven?

QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jul 14 2008, 02:41 PM) [snapback]477067[/snapback]
Is that a defo Puggs - because I have heard rumours..... rolleyes.gif

Hey Tailbearer-I thought you might have left the country-you still haven't answered my outstanding question! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-14 15:26:38
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 14 2008, 02:47 PM) [snapback]477070[/snapback]
we don't play a right back, but we have Walker, Mcgregor and even Weatherson who can play there. We have more cover at right back than we do for most positions.

OR a left back, or a right winger, or a left winger, or a substitute goalie!

I F*CKIN' KNOW PT. Mortonjag's Monkey CAN PLAY THERE too! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-14 15:28:34
QUOTE(Deego @ Jul 14 2008, 02:50 PM) [snapback]477072[/snapback]
mortonjag has MSN and never added me?! sad.gif

What's MSN?
mortonjag 2008-07-14 15:40:04
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jul 14 2008, 03:24 PM) [snapback]477089[/snapback]
Yep, tried that, and did the same yesterday and ended up with a severe burnt napper laugh.gif although i have been drinking plenty of fuids wink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-14 15:44:18 ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-14 16:05:35 Don't be daft Puggs-we did well to reach the analogue age, and I want the old clock back. They've even had the cheek to slap white paint over the poor wee circle.

Bloody whitewash if you ask me! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-14 16:08:23
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jul 14 2008, 03:43 PM) [snapback]477096[/snapback]
Water to be precise rolleyes.gif

Drinking too much water can kill you! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-14 16:22:46
55 TODAY




Many happy returns of the day!
mortonjag 2008-07-14 16:25:21
QUOTE(pedro.mcghee @ Jul 14 2008, 04:11 PM) [snapback]477103[/snapback]
Pleas do not take this as a dig at the fundraising efforts but it was the clubs responsibility to comply with the DDA not the fans. So the fact that the club have not put anything in to the adaptations is quite frankly a descries.

It is a legal requirement to comply with the DDA so why are Morton reliant on the good will of supporters and now that the work is done cashing in on it.

Shame on you Morton

Agreed.
mortonjag 2008-07-14 17:12:26
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Jul 14 2008, 04:51 PM) [snapback]477112[/snapback]
This may come as a shock MJ but even if I had left the country the internet web thingy still operates overseas... rolleyes.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Oh I know that and the form for Companies House could have been done that way too! laugh.gif

Anyway-is the Pimperenel now on their list, or do I have to go to the bother of checking yet again?
mortonjag 2008-07-14 17:15:07
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 13 2008, 09:34 PM) [snapback]476790[/snapback]
The question asked was if Fing was going to be back soon from his holidays rolleyes.gif

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Nothing would surprise me less. Do you think the minutes of yesterday's AGM of the Secret Seven will ever posted on our pubic massage board?
mortonjag 2008-07-14 17:18:35
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 14 2008, 04:59 PM) [snapback]477117[/snapback]
This wouldn't have happened if deego was allowed on the new forum. Ah well, BAN HIM!

You have me worried darling-is our little Deeglet posing as a REAL girl? mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-14 17:25:26
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 14 2008, 05:18 PM) [snapback]477127[/snapback]
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What's with the glaicet face SPARROT-I appreciate that in the knife crime rife scheme where you live, decency may be an unknown term, but the concept of streets with 'decent' sides is well recorded in Scottish social history.
mortonjag 2008-07-14 17:42:54
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jul 14 2008, 05:23 PM) [snapback]477132[/snapback]
Maybe they've sold it to pay for the "renovations" to section B of the stand.

f***ers, making me sit in the s***ey section C, where you have an obscured view of both goals, instead of just the standside/WDE corner flag, despite their being nothing obvious actually being done yet except a section being taped off! dry.gif

That's a joke-there's a bloody bush growing it's way into the corridor-I'm sure the away fans must be highly impressed! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-14 17:46:04
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Jul 14 2008, 05:34 PM) [snapback]477139[/snapback]
This is when it happened.
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That's a picture you eejit.

QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 14 2008, 05:37 PM) [snapback]477142[/snapback]
thats quite obviously Mcguffie!

The one in black?
mortonjag 2008-07-14 17:49:55
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jul 14 2008, 05:16 PM) [snapback]477124[/snapback]
I'd go to the docs and get some cream but there's no NHS in Jersey and it'd cost me £30 just to join up with a GP apparently. f*** that. I'll stick to the vaseline and sunlight until I get home.
I'm on staff canteen food so don't really get to choose what I eat. I know healthy living would be good for it but I'd rather have scabby arms if it means I can enjoy a fag and a pint when I want smile.gif

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Four pints and forty fags and your GP's bill's paid! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-14 17:59:57
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 14 2008, 05:53 PM) [snapback]477153[/snapback]
Perhaps Mr Mentaljag would care to elaborate as to why his knowledge of the East End from Newlands, Glasgow, is greater than that of mine.

Perhaps little SPARROT will explain why he is-as is his wont-making further inaccurate allegations about an older, more intelligent, vastly more experienced poster who is also a highly qualified DOCTOR. eek.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-14 18:03:05
QUOTE(Deego @ Jul 14 2008, 05:59 PM) [snapback]477159[/snapback]
Only 'pouffes' go in the stand. Except my dad, he's not a pouffe. I hope.

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Are you suggesting that



SHOOGLY IS A POUFFE?
mortonjag 2008-07-14 18:07:07
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 14 2008, 05:55 PM) [snapback]477157[/snapback]
Thank you.
A while yet on the pension front. happy.gif

Though only 15 years left of the Biblical allotment. unsure.gif

Could you not apply for an extension to the lease-with all those home grown vegetables you'll probably live to be 100.
mortonjag 2008-07-14 18:12:19
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jul 14 2008, 05:53 PM) [snapback]477154[/snapback]
Can you guess who it is yet?

It's Jon Newby ya numpty-though much younger than our Jon Newby! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-14 18:42:55
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 14 2008, 06:03 PM) [snapback]477162[/snapback]
Why is either age or job relevant?
On you go, give your accurate description of Barnhill Street that contradicts my point of view.
Either that or do us all a favour and shut up for once.

Listen SPARROT my clever little man, Dr Mortonjag has worked professionally in Inverclyde and has probably been in and out of more houses in the 'East end' between midnight and 7 a.m., than you've had hot dinners in your knife crime rife scheme.

THAT's one reason why age and job is entirely relevant. It's also why age and job are relevant to my previous comment about the 'decent' sides of streets.

Would it at all surprise you to know sonny boy, that deputising doctors had an intricate knowledge of the areas they covered, probably matched only by the local Police. It was often easy to predict the 'quality' of a home visit request by an actual close NUMBER in a bloody street.

Furthermore, Dr Mortonjag lived in the East End, as did his parents, in Bawhirley Road, as did his Uncle Jimmy in Belville St., and his Auntie Jean in Kilmacolm Road.

Oh, and in case you'd forgotten-Dr Mortonjag supports a football team who play in the East end too!

I know the East End of Greenock far better than I know Newlands my child. laugh.gif


mortonjag 2008-07-14 18:48:15
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 14 2008, 06:14 PM) [snapback]477171[/snapback]
How do you know what he was trying to do? You really should stop stalking him old yin.

Less of the 'old yin', son! laugh.gif

QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 14 2008, 06:40 PM) [snapback]477177[/snapback]
That's a pretty warped view.

What would you know about it my child. You're not even old enough to join the Jessie Boys let alone pontificate about anything remotely serious. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-14 18:52:28
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 14 2008, 06:12 PM) [snapback]477168[/snapback]
The two of the weans who are quacks assure me that my alcohol consumption makes that damnably unlikely. happy.gif

Have they also asked you to change your will? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-14 19:04:04
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 14 2008, 06:52 PM) [snapback]477184[/snapback]
So this gives 2008 Barnhill Street a decent side how?
Now I'd like to think that an established professional like a doctor wouldn't judge a book by its cover, but its clear that you are prone to prejudging people in need.
No worries - we're all human.



I'm not conscious of having attributed a decent, or indecent side to Barnhill St-past or present SPARROT.

Perhaps you'd like to dig yourself another little hole by elaborating on your comment about 'prejudging people in need'. There again PLEASE don't-you're becoming a tiresome little turd.

One thing's absolutely set in stone, cast iron, and irrefutably dead certain.

You are an uninformed child with a hugely inflated opinion of yourself, your intelligence, and your worldly knowledge.

Now be off with you-is that not Mummy saying your hot water bottle's in your cot, and she's ready to read you another big story?
mortonjag 2008-07-15 06:11:02
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 14 2008, 07:53 PM) [snapback]477231[/snapback]
laugh.gif Oops..

laugh.gif Fing may have been at the Secret Seven's AGM-he's away graduating at the moment so I'm not sure-he does much of the undercover work.

QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 14 2008, 11:36 PM) [snapback]477382[/snapback]
What's he doing time for?

No, no Mr Edwards-he's 'out of the country'-honestly-it's not ALWAYS an excuse for incompetence/intrigue! dry.gif

QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jul 15 2008, 01:30 AM) [snapback]477400[/snapback]
BTW MJ isn't my brother. I'm just 'out of the country'. I assure you all it's coincidence.

Jersey jail! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-15 06:14:54
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 14 2008, 07:07 PM) [snapback]477194[/snapback]
Bit rich coming from you.
Add x amount of years to that and we have ourselves your epitaph.
c***.

My epitaph is chosen son, and it reads-

'I enjoyed screwing weans' smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-15 06:23:45
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 14 2008, 07:48 PM) [snapback]477230[/snapback]
No, what I heard there I cannot discuss on here rolleyes.gif

I know that-I've been told off several times before for typing the words-THE TRUST dry.gif


What happened to all the crap that was being talked by your committee colleagues about relishing the publicity that 'Keeping track of the money' brought.

You've got your own wee sub-forum and it's used as much as a centenarian's erection.

To me the trust seems FAR more intent on protecting its own wee comfort zone than attracting new members. In that sense it has apparently lost its way completely. mad.gif

mortonjag 2008-07-15 06:31:03
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 14 2008, 06:56 PM) [snapback]477188[/snapback]
Could there have been another murder and it's taped off as it's actually a crime scene unsure.gif

Is Alistair Donald's body buried under the seats laugh.gif

There was definitely a funny smell coming from the region of the Chairman's Office on Saturday, and I thought Shoogly looked more shifty than usual.

I'll check again tonight-they've has tons of time to dispose of the body, but knowing the set up, they'll probably just let it rot.
mortonjag 2008-07-15 06:42:05
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 14 2008, 06:54 PM) [snapback]477187[/snapback]
And he's back with the classic "you're not old enough to disagree with me" line.
Bravo: when all else fails you have that one on stand-by.

Do you ever feel you're talking to yourself SPARROT. Does it never occur to you that you annoy your peers FAR more than you amuse Mortonjag?

Care to share the bedtime story Mummy read to you last night. I love 'Goldilocks and the Three Bears'-especially the bit when they come back and catch her-my heart still goes like the clappers every time my Mum reads that bit. Maybe your Mum's more into reading Tolstoy though! nerd.gif

QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 14 2008, 07:38 PM) [snapback]477219[/snapback]
You know why? I do, cause you know I right, the only more satisfying thing on Saturday would have been if Dean Keenan bagged a goal as well, what I should have did was went it the away turnstile and gave my money to Ayr Utd, £8 and £4 for what Davie Irons said he was not bothered about as its just about getting the boys fit, in other words imo it was a training session and fans were taken to the cleaners with those prices.

Davie Irons was perfectly entitled to treat it as a training session. I paid £1 for the programme in which Mr Rae promised a 'stirring encounter' for which HE charged £8.

Mr Rae has made little mistakes before.
mortonjag 2008-07-15 06:59:43 It's perfectly obvious what's wrong and why.

If this had happened, for example, at Palmerston, nobody would have batted an eyelid. The fans there see their Mr Rae as an asset and not a millstone.
mortonjag 2008-07-15 07:02:08
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 15 2008, 06:42 AM) [snapback]477406[/snapback]
I will not bite, I will nor bite, I will not bite, I will not bite, I will not bite, I will not bite, I will not bite. jerry.gif

I see you're well in with the cosy brigade already Sean.

That's pretty sad.

You see, this is the sort of thing which tends to happen when folk make side swipes at Mortonjag about 'non attendance' at functions.

You might be surprised to hear that I had several p.m.'s during the 'Question for the Trust' thread from members past and present who think the thing's a bloody shambles.
mortonjag 2008-07-15 07:12:03
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 14 2008, 07:28 PM) [snapback]477207[/snapback]
I thought a hardon was a tough Aberdeen supporter.... rolleyes.gif

Nope-that's somebody who shags horny old rams without a condom.
mortonjag 2008-07-15 07:16:22
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 14 2008, 07:42 PM) [snapback]477225[/snapback]
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Has to be MJ then. I trust them the least, yet keep coming back for more pain and heartache.

I much prefer tall weedy looking young men to daft wee lassies with big blue eyes. wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-15 07:20:16
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 14 2008, 07:32 PM) [snapback]477213[/snapback]
Rub a caul Cappielow pie on it, that will cure it.

Psoriasis Spurtle-not sore arse-do keep up! ph34r.gif
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jul 14 2008, 10:30 PM) [snapback]477324[/snapback]
Wow there's a lot of you with psoriasis on here ......................... maybe we fellow fans could do something to raise money ......... eh scratch cards or something unsure.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-15 07:23:49
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 15 2008, 12:43 AM) [snapback]477397[/snapback]
Latest odds:

MJ evens
se65an 3/1
port-ton 5/2
Boozehound 7/2
DongaTon 10/1

MJ surges into the lead due to the fussily shoehorned word-play of "flaps" and the bright blue signature text, while similarities to se65an's writing style puts him in rather distant second place. port-ton seems ripe for an alias and is a decent outside bet, while Boozehound, although far capable of better, may just be bored enough to partake. Perennial alias-crafter DongaTon brings up the rear.

WOOD EYE

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mortonjag 2008-07-15 07:30:38
QUOTE(rawheed rex @ Jul 14 2008, 11:33 PM) [snapback]477381[/snapback]
forget the hollywood the most satisfying is when you survive the test. the KING KONG FINGER the daddy of all hegehogs. whipe the swet from your brow think youv been fisted and went 10 rounds with will young . but when its oot ahh nervana. or so i hear mine draps out in a velvet coat blush.gif

STOP IT-Port ton will get jealous.
mortonjag 2008-07-15 07:37:51
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jul 15 2008, 12:21 AM) [snapback]477394[/snapback]
Who can play both sides as well.

I think Irons might sign him because of his versatility.

I shudder when I hear that-it STINKS of compromise.

Sadly I agree with you-'small squad of QUALITY players'!


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mortonjag 2008-07-15 09:03:51
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 15 2008, 07:43 AM) [snapback]477418[/snapback]
Its not sad MJ, am no spoke's person for the trust.

MJ, if ever I meet you in person, I would be more than glad to sit down and discuss, as I have strong views on the trust as well, but am prone to not being the best at putting my point across on an open forum correctly.



Sean-so far as I can see it, the Trust IS still perceived as the fans representative.

Unless the Trust endeavours to genuinely involve as many fans as possible, I believe it will fold in the near future-certainly in its present form. The fundraising could easily be done far more efficiently instead of folk automatically leaving it to their 'representative'!

I find it ludicrous in the extreme that a few blinkered and self indulgent folk can pontificate from their protected comfort zone, when they don't dare to ask Rae for the time of day.

The Trust is a bulldog with no teeth, whose snarling becomes less menacing by the minute.

It's long past time for folk to either stand up and be counted or to pass the task on to others who ARE interested in the general good of the support rather than just wanting a wee status badge.

mortonjag 2008-07-15 09:25:36
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 15 2008, 09:10 AM) [snapback]477429[/snapback]
That maybe the case Spot Ton but at least I don't have a complex about it.

Measles only ever emerges from his kennel when the Trust/club is in question!

Gutless anonymities sicken me.
mortonjag 2008-07-15 09:49:16
QUOTE(Laura_w @ Jul 15 2008, 08:49 AM) [snapback]477425[/snapback]
ditto was covered in the stuff from head to toe until i went on it and now it only tend to flare up once a month but never as bad as before was totally worth it in the long run.

Laura, I guess your psoriasis must be pretty nasty at times.

Methotrexate is not a drug to be messed about with, and is contraindicated for the majority of psoriasis patients.
mortonjag 2008-07-15 09:53:44 I don't see the problem. In support of multiculturalism they could barbecue the old bitch for a week on a giant funeral pyre in Trafalgar square, and charge a whacking entrance fee for 'sightseers'.

It would be a nice wee boost to the economy.
mortonjag 2008-07-15 10:34:58
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 15 2008, 10:12 AM) [snapback]477443[/snapback]
As nice a flat as it is, I think I'd rather invest my £218k in a five bedroomed detached house with double garage and private gardens in Inverkip. Just feels like a better deal. Or it would if I had £218k handy.

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You can't even park a Smart car in that street without it being scraped, but folk buy those grossly over priced tenements because it's the pretentious West End. Not quite archetypal of the Manky Dog we've all come to love! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-15 12:07:19
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Jul 15 2008, 11:16 AM) [snapback]477456[/snapback]
Indeed,
It was decided that at the time it would not be reasonably practicable to achieve the 1 in 20 disabled spaces provision as required through the Safety at Sports Grounds Legislation.
The Local Authority agreed with the Club at the time that in the event of future development at Cappielow, the full extents of the legislation for disabled access/accommodation would have to be complied with.

It is my personal opinion that if the existing disabled section were to be managed properly there would be ample space for those who need it.
I would also suggest a boot in the disabled baws to a certain arrogant/ignorant individual who dishes out dogs abuse to anyone who may take up 'his space', which is actually the access egress point for all users.
Brian, I'm sure you would have if you could have on Saturday, unfortunately if I'd done it on your behalf you'd be tannoying... wink.gif

That's surely cruelty to animals! mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-15 12:15:05
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 15 2008, 11:37 AM) [snapback]477461[/snapback]
You've only used that analogy several hundred times in the last week.
It appears your record is nothing other than stuck.
Peers? I guess I'd better go back and ask the nursery class then.
c***.

Excellent idea my little SPARROT and you could impress them with this quotation from Alexander Pope-


'The bookful blockhead, ignorantly read
With loads of learned lumber in his head'.

Mortonjag can't be arsed reading books-he writes them. smartass.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-15 12:17:53
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 15 2008, 12:13 PM) [snapback]477470[/snapback]
You don't want to be making a habit of that around Cappielow. laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-15 12:24:41
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Jul 15 2008, 11:32 AM) [snapback]477458[/snapback]
I think its more an attempt to try and stay in power. But, whatever it just plays into the whole grief tourism thing that I find unpleasant.
It is interesting. The line from Thatcher to Salmond is pretty straight.

Bawheid is but Maggie in a kilt.
mortonjag 2008-07-15 12:29:30
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 14 2008, 06:44 PM) [snapback]477180[/snapback]
No I think they'll appear on the GMST website.

Here was me thinking you were intelligent blush.gif

I didn't know they had one-is everybody allowed to read it?

I heard the AGM was a cracking success. The turnout was so large folk had to be refused entry.
mortonjag 2008-07-15 12:33:27
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 15 2008, 12:19 PM) [snapback]477477[/snapback]
You're still a c***.

Don't let your little friends discover you can't spell big words SPARROT! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-15 12:36:53
QUOTE(centralTON @ Jul 14 2008, 07:31 PM) [snapback]477211[/snapback]
Full strips mate, sponsored by Grangemouths' no1 Plumbing firm. rolleyes.gif



'U-benders'?
mortonjag 2008-07-15 12:40:10
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 15 2008, 12:36 PM) [snapback]477494[/snapback]
Mortonjag's a c***.
I'm not feeling the love.

Huffy little boy today SPARROT-you keep away from Mortonjag and stick to impressing your peers and the intellectually challenged. wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-15 12:51:30
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 15 2008, 12:41 PM) [snapback]477500[/snapback]
"Don't they hate us when we tell the truth!" indeed.

I know SPARROT , and hatred from little children is surely an indictment of our present society where respect for ones elders and betters is apparently unknown!

Incidentally, I've been dying to ask you this for ages-what do you want to be when you grow up? mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-15 12:54:50
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 15 2008, 12:23 PM) [snapback]477481[/snapback]
ohmy.gif I've never had an alias on here and never will, Edinton can back me up im sure. I come on here to talk about Morton and stuff but im more than happy to wind people up using this username, don't need another one. Third favourite indeed sad.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-15 15:17:53
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jul 15 2008, 02:54 PM) [snapback]477594[/snapback]

That's interesting-we don't see that sort of thing up here! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-15 15:28:37
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 15 2008, 12:35 PM) [snapback]477493[/snapback]
It depends upon what is hidden beneath the asterisks. wink.gif
If you think you're going to drag me down to your banal level of debate then you can think again.
c***.

That's the point SPARROT-all you are capable of is debate-you have NO life experience to draw on and have to sponge/parrot your big books! rolleyes.gif


Banal: commonplace, mundane, everyday-well is that not what a wee footie forum's meant to be about son? Mortonjag feels equally at home in discussion with truly experienced academics.


Anal: pertaining to an arsehole-eminently applicable to jumped up little nobodies who will inevitably have to learn the hard way! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-15 15:39:35 Morton 1-Hartlepool 0


LEAFY

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mortonjag 2008-07-15 15:42:26
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 15 2008, 03:38 PM) [snapback]477623[/snapback]
not like you to draw things out and say more than you really need to, surely two are out of the country would have been more than enough information? tongue.gif



London is in Great Britain, and the other one's back home-we're going to the training session together tonight!
mortonjag 2008-07-15 15:49:13
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 15 2008, 01:22 PM) [snapback]477514[/snapback]
Elder certainly, although I don't see a rather spiteful man who has serious psychological issues around monkeys, fudgy wudgys and little pink botties as necessarily being my better.
What's the standard answer? I want to be a footballer. wub.gif

Hmm- this 'rather spiteful old man' is better qualified in psychological profiling than sad little SPARROTS who deserve a good tanning of their little pink botties, and secretly want to be loved like a Honey Monster.

QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 15 2008, 01:35 PM) [snapback]477519[/snapback]
i'm glad i could do my little bit to bring everyone even closer smile.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-15 15:53:33
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jul 15 2008, 02:08 PM) [snapback]477553[/snapback]
Point being I can't get to the docs so need stuff I can buy from boots or some more of the old wives tale kinda s***

Buy diprobase ointment-apply and leave on overnight. Apply hydrocortisone ointment a couple of times during the day.The strongest you'll get over the counter is probably 1%.

That'll be £27.50!
mortonjag 2008-07-15 16:02:28
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jul 15 2008, 01:52 PM) [snapback]477532[/snapback]
Deego has been on mine AGAIN, the dirty wee rat! sad.gif

...and you'll NEVER guess who's been keeking at MJ's bird!!! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-15 16:04:22
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 15 2008, 03:44 PM) [snapback]477627[/snapback]
biggrin.gif £4 for a training session isn't so bad.

Sometimes you are very impertinent.
mortonjag 2008-07-16 07:16:54
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 15 2008, 04:07 PM) [snapback]477639[/snapback]
i'll have you know i have no problem getting an erection thanks very much.

That's impertinence.

QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jul 15 2008, 04:20 PM) [snapback]477647[/snapback]
Trick! If we napalm Cappielow tonight we can get two of 'em!

Over and out.

Missed again! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-16 07:19:10
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jul 15 2008, 05:07 PM) [snapback]477673[/snapback]
As I understand it, the work is taking place under Section B. rolleyes.gif

How long does it take to bury a dead businessman?
mortonjag 2008-07-16 07:29:29
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 15 2008, 04:09 PM) [snapback]477640[/snapback]
I would hope that's so but I doubt if we will be so much on top for him to get the 10 or so chances he'll need to convert one. rolleyes.gif

HA-he didn't get ANY chances last night depite being on for half an hour-such is the direness of the supply. He did produce one of the most exciting moments in the game working his way into the box from the right bye line and producing a text book cut back!

C'mon LEAFY


I think you've just resolved the nickname issue for beany /leafy/whatever. For me he's now .......................

William G LEAFY Stewart

Very distinguished Cloth Ears! laugh.gif

Oh and one in sixteen's better than none.
mortonjag 2008-07-16 07:39:11
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 15 2008, 11:36 PM) [snapback]478019[/snapback]
try again

Maybe the Honey Monster isn't into jousting with other children.
mortonjag 2008-07-16 07:50:23
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 15 2008, 09:10 PM) [snapback]477831[/snapback]

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QUOTE(rawheed rex @ Jul 15 2008, 09:47 PM) [snapback]477871[/snapback]
i have seen hartlepool play 4 times at vic park last season and ithink some are being kind to them regards their level. imo

They were certainly no great shakes last night!

QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 15 2008, 10:12 PM) [snapback]477902[/snapback]
is he a striker?

No Alistair, he's a right back.

QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jul 15 2008, 10:24 PM) [snapback]477922[/snapback]
Big Anton Ferdinand was solid at centre half, our best player IMO. I thought Alan Reid looked good at right back, then got a little lost at centre mid, but would be a good option to have in the squad. Arbuckle's pace looked good, and wasn't afraid to take defenders on. The little number 19 (Rashid Kamara?) looked skillful but lightweight.

Good workout tonight, but I am a little concerned at the lack of mobility in the middle of the park. That could be a big factor against us in the coming season.

Was also like spot the celeb in my section, with James Grady, Julie Fleeting and Andy Ritchie and MORTONJAG all within 5 rows of each other tongue.gif


I said to wee Grady near the end-what do you think of our prospects? He smiled a wee wicked smile and replied-'See if I was on the wing-ye'd score a barrowload'. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-16 07:54:56 If he was trying to impress he didn't. After one superb penetrating run through from midfield he did SFA.
mortonjag 2008-07-16 08:05:19 This may describe a separate incident, but as Mortonjag and his brother went up Sinclair St. towards Weir St immediately after the game, they obseved a running battle involving some ten to fifteen youths, coming down from the row of shops opposite Weir St..

Most were armed with full or almost full Irn Bru bottles, several of which were thrown at others-or just indiscriminately. One young gentleman was carrying a crowbar-FACT. No baseball bats were seen and definitely all accents sounded very local!

Twas actually a tad scary, as the wee c*nts all looked spaced oot. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-16 08:16:52 More manic muppetry from the folk who believed Spoonsy was a right back because JM told him so.

WTF are we trialling ANOTHER central defender-the big guy was quite impressive, but we've STILL no wingers STILL no full backs (WEATHERSON PLEASE NOTE), and ONE goalie who last night looked as nervous as a neurone on speed.

GET IT SORTED DI.

Furthermore the midfield is about as productive as a hysterectomised horse.

GET IT SORTED DI

Time is running out and we're already beginning to look like the 'stodge' team of the division.


Dictionary.com
stodge
2. to trudge: to stodge along through the mire.



(definition inserted for SPARROT'S benefit) cos' he loves his words!
mortonjag 2008-07-16 08:21:16 JESUS F*CK


We've already got two guys who run around in circles all day and produce nothing-we DON'T need another. Midge Millar on form was at least sometimes effective.
mortonjag 2008-07-16 08:34:25
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 16 2008, 08:19 AM) [snapback]478147[/snapback]
MSC thread for this pish!

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mortonjag 2008-07-16 08:40:47
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 15 2008, 03:02 PM) [snapback]477604[/snapback]
that one

What was Mr Donald's reply-it's good to hear he's been attending some general meetings!

Oh and congratulations-six weeks is a mere millisecond in the history of man. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-16 08:46:36
QUOTE(Mick @ Jul 16 2008, 08:40 AM) [snapback]478155[/snapback]
Hallelujah! Some sense at last.

Good close control, but that was it. First touch was average, and his passing was dreadful.

Disposable Camara.
mortonjag 2008-07-16 08:50:57
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 16 2008, 08:47 AM) [snapback]478159[/snapback]
Mortonjag did you stop off in Port Glasgow to replace the the bottle of Irn Bru you left on the Hartlepool mini bus?

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I WAS, however, accurately describing the incident on Sinclair Street! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-16 09:04:03 This thread keeps re-appearing and the comments tend simply to be echoes.

The only thing I'm MORE certain about than the effectiveness of birching the little c*nts' pink botties is that ignorant seventeen year old children from knife crime rife schemes should NOT be allowed to read big books.

Youth is INDEED wasted on the young! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-16 09:11:43
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 15 2008, 11:06 PM) [snapback]477981[/snapback]
When I suffered (and I mean suffered - there was pus oozing out my legs at one point) with eczema in my yoof, I was happy to pay the ridiculous costs for HC cream. Within 3 days I had no symptoms.

Oh, and if ye like a bath try Oilatum.



That's very expensive-it's best just to fling some into a bath full of water!

FAO Jersey Criminals

You can rub Oilatum into your skin and leave it on for about half an hour before gently showering it off.

Not brilliant but should help.
mortonjag 2008-07-16 09:26:38
QUOTE(Mick @ Jul 16 2008, 08:53 AM) [snapback]478162[/snapback]
I didn't / don't disagree with a lot of the PT post. We were just talking about entirely different aspects of the match. Comments re: McGuffie and Colin Stewart are spot on. Just bear in mind, that we have Jenkins to return.

Other than that, there are (predictably, perhaps) a few things that I don't agree with.

Didn't like the look of Peter last night at RB. He looked miles off the pace.

The No19 shouldn't be getting a game for us. See earlier post.

Nothing really came off for Newby and Wake last night. That being said, I thought their centre half (in 1st half especially) had a strong match. Give me those two (or even Newby and Graham) every match, before Russell sets foot on the pitch. He was rank last night.

Finlayson did give us width - already said in an earlier post the conditions didn't help him last night, but I am failing to recall these 'decent balls' you refer to....from memory, the best chance we had, where the 'keeper made a great save, was made by Wake from a Partaluu cross.


That's the sort of comment which allows me to asses my fellow posters!


Would you care to elaborate. Here's how I saw his contribution. On for half an hour, and made one very skilful incisive run into the box, intelligently cutting back a 'textbook' pass. Unfortunately no takers. Worked his baws off as usual, running into space, drawing defenders, and HOPING some eejit would/could have the wit to supply him a decent pass.

I carefully watched the ONE time he was caught offside-wee Camara had the ball in centre midfield-he waits till LEAFY starts his run before releasing a through ball. dry.gif

Anybody remember John Maisano/Alex Williams-we've hardly seen the through ball used properly since.

So quite simply, my friend, he WAS NOT rank, though it's obvious that at the moment he's the 'whipping boy'. Wakey did quite well last night with three good efforts on target. Newbs didn't get much change out of their defence-did nothing more-is HE rank, and young Graham was anonymous during his brief spell-is HE rank- and Stewart had a very unsteady game-is HE rank, and Superkev and Jimbo WERE RANK.
mortonjag 2008-07-16 10:31:50
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 16 2008, 09:33 AM) [snapback]478191[/snapback]
Jim? Surely not! He's an amazing prospect! ohmy.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-16 10:33:37
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jul 16 2008, 09:30 AM) [snapback]478188[/snapback]
Grrrr!

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mortonjag 2008-07-16 10:36:57
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 16 2008, 09:19 AM) [snapback]478179[/snapback]
Dr Mentaljag and his brother perchance? laugh.gif

Mortonjag NEVER runs away!
mortonjag 2008-07-16 10:39:29
QUOTE(mortonboi @ Jul 16 2008, 10:11 AM) [snapback]478200[/snapback]
and plus hartlepool are better than nearly every division 1 team

I just can't understand the point in that comment. Last night was a pre-season warm up and they certainly weren't any better than us. Have you got your bet on for the Championship? blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-16 10:44:33
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jul 16 2008, 10:38 AM) [snapback]478222[/snapback]
No no, I believe Lens are interested in him

On last night's exposure I can't see him developing into anything great.
mortonjag 2008-07-16 10:48:57
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 16 2008, 09:06 AM) [snapback]478172[/snapback]
If you have been listening to those two haunted hooses then you are wont have a heart beat cos you would have ended it all long before now! tongue.gif 3 days of dreadful tone deaf smile.gif drivel would drive anyone to suicide!

Hoochter choochter-och aye the noo-waggle yer wallies Fran and Anna were superb entertainment!
mortonjag 2008-07-16 10:51:25
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Jul 16 2008, 10:25 AM) [snapback]478209[/snapback]
I've had Psoraisis since my mid-20s and have been on a wonderful concoction of lotions and potions since then.

Dovonex for the front of my scalp.

Fucibet for the bits round my ears and eyes - this is an active steriod, so I have to use it sparingly.

Exorex for my elbows - this is currently having a "long term manufacturer's issue" (whatever that means - I'm guessing that they've discovered something sinister in it. Another reason is that it comes in a huge bottle which is out of date before I've barely use a tenth of it).

Given the lack of Exorex I'm using a different lotion of my wife's.

I am also on Beconase forever for hayfever and allergies. mellow.gif

See that stuff yer puttin' on yer face.

I'd bin it! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-16 10:56:04
HOLE


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mortonjag 2008-07-16 10:58:44 c*** a leekie soup!
mortonjag 2008-07-16 11:02:22
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jul 16 2008, 10:51 AM) [snapback]478235[/snapback]
Yeah. Too many negative comments.

My first camera was a Brownie.
mortonjag 2008-07-16 11:36:26
QUOTE(irvineTON @ Jul 16 2008, 11:10 AM) [snapback]478242[/snapback]
I stood guarding my motor from any stray bottles!! I was ready to leap Wylie'esque to palm any away to safety. laugh.gif
laugh.gif laugh.gif Cappielow - WELCOME TO HELL!! Get the bags of piss out for when the Midden come to town. tongue.gif
So u were the older Gentleman that was throwing the young whipper-snappers about like empty tracksuits then? tongue.gif laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-16 11:42:48
QUOTE(twgp @ Jul 16 2008, 04:13 AM) [snapback]478129[/snapback]
soon as maggie dies theres gunna be a massive working class party. Everyone knows this.

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Care to define this phenomenon? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-16 13:01:22
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jul 16 2008, 12:45 PM) [snapback]478291[/snapback]
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yeah, i am in full agreement that Irons needs to focus his attention on attracting a better standard of player.

Rather than JM sitting scratching his aperture.
mortonjag 2008-07-16 13:11:38
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 16 2008, 11:58 AM) [snapback]478276[/snapback]
No he is not , he has never given anyone a good bloody handbagging! tongue.gif
Izzat rhyming slang? rolleyes.gif

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He likes to ride about on a ropey old scooter.
mortonjag 2008-07-16 13:14:24
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 15 2008, 07:32 PM) [snapback]477736[/snapback]
Also the fact you haven't been posting, under The Honey Monster biggrin.gif , for 6months, which I believe is under consideration.

Today is apparently Honey Monster's Birthday.

Happy Birthday Honey Monster.
mortonjag 2008-07-16 13:18:55
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jul 16 2008, 01:03 PM) [snapback]478297[/snapback]
MortonJag, your patter is so poor these days, all these puns - you need to add some new material to your Canon.

Away and lie in a darkroom.

I'd enjoy that Leica Nikon my tadger.
mortonjag 2008-07-16 13:27:02 Bramble jelly.
mortonjag 2008-07-16 13:37:45
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 16 2008, 12:13 PM) [snapback]478281[/snapback]
we sent him a letter waiting on his reply, he was out the country you know rolleyes.gif and recently just recieved it

So you know for a fact that Mr Donald has personally received and intends to reply soon to an enquiry from the Trust regarding his future plans for Morton?
mortonjag 2008-07-16 14:06:29
QUOTE(big blue eyes @ Jul 16 2008, 02:04 PM) [snapback]478331[/snapback]
I've been bursting to say this all morning-I was just driving away last night, and you'll NEVER guess who walked right past me-JON!

He looked straight at me-I was very embarrassed but he gave me a lovely big smile.

He's just Gorgeous! bouncy.gif
Zoe wub.gif

You young women and your fantasies-I'll bet he's married with half a dozen weans. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-16 14:10:35
QUOTE(big blue eyes @ Jul 16 2008, 02:08 PM) [snapback]478334[/snapback]
You old men are just cynical and jealous-even if he's married I can still like him-can't I!

Of course you can if that's ALL!
mortonjag 2008-07-16 14:18:03
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jul 16 2008, 01:54 PM) [snapback]478326[/snapback]

As first described exclusively by Mortonjag! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-16 14:23:33
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jul 16 2008, 01:38 PM) [snapback]478317[/snapback]
got to disagree with you there. Milton Friedmans work has had a massive influence on the economic policy of the whole world, and to varying extents you could claim any mainstream western political party to be followers of his theories.

Surely however, the reason that many choose to vote SNP is because they are the only party which stands for independence and is big enough to have any degree of political clout in this country. Therefore, i would suggest that relatively few SNP voters choose who to vote for on the basis of economic policy, with independence instead being the major issue they vote on.

If the SNP had the audacity to have hard nosed lefty economic policies, they would ultuimately be commiting political suicide, so it is understandable why they are following the same economic policies as all the other m\ajor parties. This also gives them a chance of nicking a few swing voters who do vote based on economic policies but who are scunnered with the incumbents.

Take me for example. Iam strongly opposed to the current neo-con / libertarian / friedmanite / thatcherite / whatever you want to call it political trends, and i also support scottish independence. In terms of economic policy, there is very little to choose from between the political parties, unless i want to waste my vote on a party who only have a chance of winning a handful of seats. Therefore i look at other policies, and see that the SNP stand for independence, and hence i vote for them. Does this mean that i am in favour of right wing economic policies? No of course it doesnt.

Politics is all about compromises

edit to add - i think it is outrageous if she is going to get a state funeral. i will have a street party on the day she dies and take great pleasure urinating on her grave

Please save your pish if it's the funeral pyre I suggested!
mortonjag 2008-07-16 14:33:55
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jul 16 2008, 01:41 PM) [snapback]478319[/snapback]
what f***ing world do you live in ???? I come from an underclass society and live in a housing scheme, and I can tell you I don't belive the carrying of a knife ACCEPTABLE... the ' upper classes' dont f***ing care whats happening to us. thats it, while were watching our youngsters killing each other, then theres no need for them to worry that we'll be watching what THEY are doing to our country.. it would be SO EASY to stop whats happening, by either brining back corpral punishment or giving stiffer jail time.. REAL old fashioned jail time, but as long as it's us 'lower classes' doing it to ourselves and leaving them alone then they dont care, and wont do anything about it... NO EXCUSES...IT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE or ACCEPTED... BIRCH THE c***S and/or HARD JAIL and CHAIN GANG PUNISHMENT.

Don't be too hard on my wee SPARROT, 'warrior'. He lives in 'a world of make believe' in the middle of his big books and knife crime rife scheme. rolleyes.gif

He ACTUALLY BELIEVES the keech he scrapes off his paper nappies onto our pubic massage board.

Only days ago he was contradicting ex Mum/Dad/four weans in a room and kitchen tenement, and ex-Bardrainney Mortonjag on the basis of him being some remote upper class fud in Newlands, and quoting some bloody 'expert' who's made a name out of kidding folks on that the birch won't work, when every record ever made indicates it was a SUPERB deterrent-AND it costs very little.

He's more to be pitied than anything.
mortonjag 2008-07-16 14:54:20
QUOTE(centralTON @ Jul 16 2008, 02:27 PM) [snapback]478348[/snapback]
F.A.O. the "nae bus team". Confirmation.

1. Davie McArthur,
2. Shaddypeekey,
3. Port-Ton,
4. IrvineTon,
5. Jester,
6. VikingTon,
7. VaderTon,
8. FlightTon,
9. CentralTon.

That leaves a 10th position to be filled. I know Port and Viking have interested parties waiting to fill the void, but, would you 2 really deny a 14 year old his 15 mins of fame, ya heartless B******s. laugh.gif

Could you 2 pm me and we'll sort something out, Ta.

I'll happily fill Port-ton's void any day and not for the first time. As for SPARROT'S, I can arrange some ready mixed concrete.
mortonjag 2008-07-16 15:02:15
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 16 2008, 02:57 PM) [snapback]478363[/snapback]
There hasn't been trouble like that outside our ground in years, ive been following Morton for 14 years and i never remember something like that although i could just be oblivious. (not an unreasonable assumption tongue.gif). The only problem we have is where our ground is situated, right in the middle of where all the annoying wee neds/chavs stay who either don't go to the games and hang about the ground after them or cant afford to go see Rangers or Celtic so go to Morton games since they live next to the ground.

Hope you enjoyed your trip anyway.

Correct PT-as I said we walked through it at its height when all the bottles were being flung and smashing all over the place. There was no question in our minds that it was one lot of spaced out local neds chasing another. There were no baseball bats or caps, and NO English accents, though one young c*nt DID have a bloody crowbar-and that's effin mental! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-16 15:06:44
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Jul 16 2008, 03:04 PM) [snapback]478371[/snapback]
Where I was sitting was in seats usually reserved for Season ticket holders. Who would buy a season ticket for there, I would want a duffed up knee discount! I suppose the view was pretty good though, the only thing spoing it was my knees up to my chin!

Mon the Cooshed!

Has it not occurred to you that most stand users are upper class POUFFES who enjoy having their knobs rammed up the arse of the guy in front?
mortonjag 2008-07-16 15:08:48
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 16 2008, 02:22 PM) [snapback]478342[/snapback]
I know he received it

Any chance the common fans could see a wee copy, or is it CLASSIFIED? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-16 15:26:04
QUOTE(Kaney @ Jul 16 2008, 03:19 PM) [snapback]478381[/snapback]
Aye. The weans last night were making me cringe. Throwing stuff about, jumping around seats and referring to the coloured #19 as 'chocolate drop' who they bet we found 'lying under a rock in Africa'

Stuff going back to that stand.

It's amazing the imagination weans have.
mortonjag 2008-07-16 15:37:07
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 16 2008, 03:27 PM) [snapback]478383[/snapback]
once we get a reply both will be put on gmst.org.uk for our members to see with any personal address info removed,

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

So anybody is allowed to read this---



Trust Rules PDF Print E-mail
Written by Ryan Deegan
Monday, 04 June 2007

A Microsoft Word™ version of this document is available in our Download Centre.
NAME
1. The name of the society is to be Greenock Morton Supporters' Society Limited and it is called "the Society" in the rest of these Rules.

OBJECTS
2. The Society's objects are, either itself or through a subsidiary company or society trading for the benefit of the community and acting under its control:
i. to strengthen the bonds between Greenock Morton Football Club and the local community in Inverclyde and the surrounding area and to represent the interests of the local community in the running of Greenock Morton Football Club.
ii. to benefit present and future members of the community in Inverclyde and the surrounding area by promoting, encouraging and furthering the game of football as a recreational facility, sporting activity and focus for community involvement.
iii. to provide and maintain facilities for the enjoyment of professional football.
iv. to promote coaching schemes to develop the football skills of young people and to widen interest in football regardless of the gender, race, colour or religion of those involved.
POWERS
3. The Society may achieve these objects in whole or in part through an interest or interests in companies or societies provided that the objects of the companies or societies are consistent with the Society's objects. In particular the Society may acquire an interest in Greenock Morton Football Club or any successor company..


4. In order to achieve its objects the Society may either itself or through a subsidiary company or society acting under its control:
a. buy, sell and lease property;
b. borrow;
c. grant security over its property and assets;
d. establish, promote and maintain for the purposes of the Society a loan capital scheme to be known as the Greenock Morton Supporters' Loan Capital Fund open only to members of the Society and any other lawful fund raising scheme.
e. award pensions, allowances, gratuities and bonuses to past and present employees (including their dependants and people connected with them) of:
i. The Society;
ii. any predecessor of the Society; and
iii. any subsidiary company or society of the Society;
f. Set up and maintain itself or with others trusts funds or schemes (whether contributory or non-contributory) intended to provide pension or other benefits for the people referred to in Rule 4(e);
g. so far as permitted by these Rules indemnify or take out and maintain insurance for the benefit of people who are or were:
i. members of the Society Board or the Executive Board; or
ii. officers; or
iii. employees; or
i. trustees of a pension fund
of the Society or any subsidiary company or society of the Society against any liability which they may have as a result of their involvement with the Society or its subsidiaries;
h. so far as permitted by these Rules take out and maintain insurance against any risks to which the Society may be exposed;
i. do anything else which is necessary or expedient to achieve its objects.



5. The business of the Society is to be conducted for the benefit of the community in Inverclyde and the surrounding area and not for the profit of its members.
APPLICATION OF PROFITS
6. The profits or surpluses of the Society are not to be distributed either directly or indirectly in any way whatsoever among members of the Society but shall be applied:
a. to maintain prudent reserves;
b. on expenditure to achieve the Society's objects.


MEMBERSHIP
7. The members of the Society are the people whose names are entered in the register of members.
8. The first members are Stuart Duncan, Jim McColl, Aileen Sellar, Iain McColl, Brian Farren and David Brown.
9. Membership is open to any person firm or corporate body who or which:
a. is a supporter of Greenock Morton Football Club; or
b. has an interest in the game of football in Inverclyde and the surrounding area; and
c. agrees to-be bound by these Rules and Rule 6 in particular.
10. Every member holds one share.
11. The Society Board will decide and issue a form of application for membership. Members are to pay an annual subscription of £10 or such other sum as the Society Board shall decide, the first payment to be made at the time of application for membership. The sum of £1 from the first payment shall be applied to purchase a share in the Society.
12. The Society Board will have power to offer associate or affiliate status with or without payment or subscription to corporate or unincorporated bodies which support the aims of the Society but no-one shall be entitled to vote at any general meeting of the Society who is not the registered holder of a fully paid up share in the Society.
13. A minor not under the age of 16 may be admitted as a member or joint member of the Society but may not be an officer.
14. A corporate body or firm which is a member may by resolution of its governing body appoint any person it thinks fit to be its deputy and revoke such an appointment. A copy of any such resolution signed by two members of the governing body and in the case of a local authority by the authorised officer of the Council shall be sent to the Secretary of the Society. The deputy will be entitled to exercise all rights of membership on behalf of the corporate body including seeking election as an officer and speaking and voting at any general meeting. References in these Rules to a member being present in person include members which are corporate bodies being present through their deputy.
15. No member may hold more than one share either individually or jointly.


SHARES
16. The shares of the Society have the nominal value of £1 each and may not be transferred or withdrawn.
17. If a member ceases to be a member, the share registered in the name of that member is to be cancelled and the amount subscribed for the share is to become the property of the Society.
18. Shares do not carry any right to interest, dividend or bonus.


REMOVAL OF MEMBERS
19. A member shall cease to be a member if they:
a. fail after written demand to pay their annual subscription.
b. die (in the case of the individual).
c. cease to exist (in the case of a body corporate);
d. are the nominee of an unincorporated Society or firm which is wound up or dissolved;
e. are the nominee of an unincorporated organisation or firm which removes or replaces them as its nominee;
f. are not the holder of a fully paid up share
g. are expelled under these Rules; or
h. withdraw from membership by giving at least one month's written notice to the Secretary.
20. A member may be expelled by a resolution carried by the votes of not less than two-thirds of the members present in person or by proxy and voting on a poll at an annual or special general meeting of the Society of which notice has been duly given. The following procedure will be adopted:
a. A complaint must be made that the member has acted in a way detrimental to the interests of the Society.
b. Details of the complaint must be sent to the member in question not less than one calendar month before the meeting with an invitation to answer the complaint and attend the meeting.
c. At the meeting the members will consider evidence in support of the complaint and such evidence as the member may wish to place before them.
d. If the member fails to attend the meeting without due cause the meeting may proceed in their absence.
e. A person expelled from membership will cease to be a member at the expiration of twenty-eight days from the date at which the resolution to expel them is carried.
f. No person who has been expelled from membership is to be re-admitted except by a resolution carried by the votes of two-thirds of the members present in person or by proxy and voting on a poll at any general meeting of which notice has been properly given.
ORGANISATION
21. The powers of the Society are to be exercised by the members, the Society Board and the Executive Board of the Society in the way set out in the Rules which follow.


RIGHTS AND POWERS OF MEMBERS
22. The members have the rights and powers available to them under the law relating to Industrial and Provident Societies and are to decide in particular the issues specifically reserved to them by these Rules.
23. The functions of the annual general meeting shall include:
a. receiving:
i. the revenue account and balance sheet for the previous financial year; and
ii. a report on the Society's performance in the previous year;
b. appointing:
i. financial auditors;
ii. auditors of any other aspect of the performance of the Society.
DUTIES AND POWERS OF SOCIETY BOARD
24. The Society Board is to ensure that the business of the Society is conducted in accordance with these Rules and with the interests of the community, and may appoint and supervise the Chief Executive and the Executive Board.

The Society Board:
a. may exercise all the Society's powers which are not required by these Rules or by statute to be exercised by the Society in general meeting. This power is subject to the provisions of these Rules and to any directions not inconsistent with these Rules made from time to time by the Society by resolution carried by the votes of not less than two-thirds of the members present in person or by proxy and voting on a poll at an annual or special general meeting of the Society of which notice has been duly given. Any person acting in good faith and without prior notice of an irregularity is not to be concerned to see or enquire whether the powers of the Society Board have been restricted by any direction so made;
b. may delegate any of its powers to committees consisting of such of its own number as it thinks fit who shall, in the function entrusted to them, conform in all respects to the instruction given to them by the Society Board. Any such delegation may be made either collaterally with or to the exclusion of the powers of the Society Board and may be revoked or altered. The proceedings of any such committee shall be governed by the rules regulating the proceedings of the Society Board so far as they are capable of applying.
c. may call upon the Chief Executive and/or Secretary to report or procure a report in writing upon any aspect of the affairs of the Society;
d. shall appoint and dismiss the Chief Executive and other members of the Executive Board and the Secretary and decide and fix the terms of their employment and have power to act in place of the Chief Executive or the Executive Board where they cease to act or are unwilling or unable to act;
e. shall approve the policies or strategies to be followed by the Executive Board and all budgets and other financial plans;
f. shall determine from time to time the categories of transaction which require the approval of the Society Board; and
g. shall approve the use of the Society's seal.
DUTIES AND POWERS OF CHIEF EXECUTIVE AND EXECUTIVE BOARD
25. If a Chief Executive is appointed, he or she will, subject to the duties and powers of the Society Board as set out in these Rules, manage the Society's business in accordance with these Rules and will have power to act in the name of the Society.
26. If other members of an Executive Board are appointed they together with the Chief Executive will, subject to the duties and powers of the Society Board as set out in these Rules and to directions as to their responsibilities given by the Society Board, manage the Society's business in accordance with these Rules and will have power to act in the name of the Society.
27. Any person acting in good faith and without prior notice of any irregularity is not to be concerned to see or enquire whether the powers of the Chief Executive or the Executive Board have been properly exercised.


SECRETARY
28. The Society is to have a Secretary whose functions will include;
a. acting as Secretary to the Society Board;
b. attending all meetings of the Executive Board;
c. acting as Secretary of any subsidiary company or society of the Society;
d. summoning and attending all general meetings of the Society and keeping the minutes;
e. keeping the register of members and other registers required to be kept by these Rules;
f. having charge of the seal of the Society;
g. monitoring the conduct of the Society's affairs to ensure that it is conducted in accordance with these Rules;
h. arranging for members of the Society Board to obtain independent legal, accounting tax or other professional advice if he or she considers it appropriate.
i. publishing to members in an appropriate form information which they should have about the affairs of the Society;
j. preparing and sending all returns required to be made to the Registrar.
29. The Secretary shall not be a member of:
a. the Executive Board;
b. any board or committee of management of any subsidiary company or society of the Society.
GENERAL MEETINGS
30. The Society is to hold a general meeting (called the annual general meeting) within six months of the end of each financial year. The first annual general meeting may be called by the Society Board at any time within this period.
31. All general meetings other than annual general meetings are called special general meetings and are to be convened by the Secretary either
a. by order of the Society Board; or
b. if a written requisition signed (except where these Rules say otherwise) by not less than 50 members or 10% of the membership, whichever is the higher, is delivered to the Society's registered address. The requisition must state the purpose for which the meeting is to be convened. If the Secretary is not within the United Kingdom or is unwilling to convene a general meeting any Society Board member may call a general meeting.
32. A special general meeting called in response to a members' requisition must be held within 28 days of the date on which the requisition is delivered to the registered office. The meeting is not to transact any business other than that set out in the requisition and the notice convening the meeting.
33. Notice of a general meeting is to be given in writing at least 14 clear days before the date of the meeting. The notice must:
a. state whether the meeting is an annual or special general meeting;
b. give the time, date and place of the meeting; and
c. indicate the business to be dealt with at the meeting.
34. Any notice to a member may be given either personally or by sending it by post in a prepaid envelope addressed to the member at their registered address or by leaving it at that address. The notice shall be given to all members and to the members of the Society Board and to the auditors. Notices or communications sent by first class post to members at their registered address are deemed to have been duly served 48 hours (excluding Sundays) after being posted. Proof that an envelope containing a notice was properly addressed, prepaid and posted shall be conclusive evidence that the notice was given. The proceedings at a general meeting are not invalid if:
a. there has been an accidental omission to send a notice to a member or members; or
b. the notice is not received by a member or members.
35. A member present either in person or by proxy at any meeting of the Society shall be deemed to have received notice of the meeting and, where requisite, of the purposes for which it was called.
36. Before a general meeting can do business there must be a quorum present. Except where these Rules say otherwise a quorum is 30 members or 10% of the members entitled to vote at the meeting whichever is lower.
37. The Society Board may decide where a general meeting is to be held and may also in the interests of democracy:
a. arrange for the annual general meeting to be held in a different part of Inverclyde or the surrounding area each year,
b. make provision for a general meeting to be held at different venues either simultaneously or at different times. In making such provision the Society Board shall also fix an appropriate quorum for each venue, provided that the aggregate of the quorum requirements shall not be less than the quorum set out in the previous Rule.
38. It is the responsibility of the Society Board, the Chair of the meeting and the Secretary to ensure that at any general meeting:
a. the issues to be decided are clearly explained;
b. sufficient information is provided to members to enable rational discussion to take place;
c. where appropriate, members of the Executive Board, experts in relevant fields or representatives of special interest groups are invited to address the meeting.
39. If the chair of a general meeting or the Secretary considers that steps should be taken to ensure:
a. the safety of people attending a general meeting; or
b. the proper and orderly conduct of the meeting;

they may take whatever steps are necessary to deal with the situation. They may in particular, if they think it necessary:
i. require people to prove their identity;
ii. arrange security searches;
iii. stop certain things being taken into the meeting;
iv. refuse to allow members into the meeting or have members removed from the meeting, where the behaviour of those members is or is likely to be violent or disruptive.
c. where appropriate, members of the Executive Board, experts in relevant fields or representatives of special interest groups are invited to address the meeting.
40. The Chair of the Society Board or in his absence some other Society Board member nominated by the members of the Society Board shall preside at all general meetings of the Society. If neither the Chair nor such other Society Board member is present and willing to act, the Society Board members present shall elect one of their number to be Chair and if there is only one Society Board present and willing to act he or she shall be Chair. If no Society Board member is willing to act as Chair or if no Society Board member is present within fifteen minutes after the time appointed for holding the meeting, the members present and entitled to vote shall choose one of their number to be Chair.
41. If no quorum is present within half an hour of the time fixed for the start of the meeting or if during a meeting such a quorum ceases to be present:
a. if the meeting was convened on a requisition of the members, it is to be dissolved;
b. in any other case the meeting shall stand adjourned to the same day in the next week at the same time and place or to such time and place as the Society Board determine. If a quorum is not present within half an hour of the time fixed for the start of the adjourned meeting, the number of members present is to be a quorum.
42. Subject to these Rules and to any Act of Parliament, a resolution put to the vote at a general meeting shall, except where a poll is demanded or directed, be decided upon by a show of hands.
43. On a show of hands every member present in person, and on a poll every member present in person or by proxy is to have one vote. In the case of an equality of votes the Chair of the meeting is to have a second or casting vote.
44. Unless a poll is demanded, the result of any vote will be declared by the Chair and entered in the minute book. The minute book will be conclusive evidence of the result of the vote.
45. A poll may be directed by the Chair or demanded either before or immediately after a vote by show of hands by not less than one-tenth of the members present at the meeting (in person or by proxy).
46. A poll demanded on the election of a Chair or on a question of adjournment shall be taken forthwith. A poll demanded on any other question shall be taken either forthwith or at such time and place as the Chair directs not being more than thirty days after the poll is demanded.

The demand for a poll shall not prevent the continuance of a meeting for the transaction of any business other than the question on which the poll was demanded. If a poll is demanded before the declaration of the result of a show of hands and the demand is duly withdrawn, the meeting shall continue as if the demand had not been made. The result of the poll will be treated as the resolution of the meeting at which the poll was demanded. No notice need be given of a poll not taken forthwith if the time and place at which it is to be taken are announced at the meeting at which it is demanded. In any other case at least seven clear days' notice shall be given specifying the time and place at which the poll is to be taken.
47. Unless these Rules or an Act of Parliament say otherwise, all resolutions are to be decided by a simple majority of the votes cast.
48. The Chair of any meeting may with the consent of a majority of the members present adjourn the meeting. The following are the arrangements for adjourned meetings:
a. No business is to be transacted at any adjourned meeting other than the business not reached or left unfinished.
b. An adjourned meeting is to be treated as a continuation of the original meeting but any resolution passed at an adjourned meeting is to be treated as having been passed on the date on which it is in fact passed.
c. When a meeting is adjourned for fourteen days or more, at least seven clear days' notice shall be given specifying the time and place of the adjourned meeting and the general nature of the business to be transacted. Otherwise no notice need be given of an adjournment or of the business to be transacted at an adjourned meeting.
49. A proxy is to be appointed as follows:
a. in writing;
b. in any usual form or any other form which the Society Board may approve;
c. under the hand of the appointor or of their attorney duly authorised in writing; and
d. by depositing the appointment document and any authority under which it is executed or a copy of such authority certified notarially or in some other way approved by the Society Board at the registered address of the Society or at such other place within the United Kingdom as is specified in the notice convening the meeting or in any instrument of proxy sent out by the Society in relation to the meeting. Such documents shall be deposited with the Chair or the Secretary or any Society Board member (i) not less than two clear days before the day fixed for the meeting at which the proxy is authorised to vote or (ii) in the case of a poll taken more than 48 hours after it is demanded; not less than 24 hours before the time appointed for the taking of the poll or (iii) where the poll is not taken forthwith but is taken not more than 48 hours after it was demanded; at the meeting at which the poll was demanded.
If this procedure is not followed the appointment of the proxy will be invalid.
50. The following further rules apply to proxies.
a. No person other than the Chair of the meeting can act as proxy for more than 3 members.
b. Any question as to the validity of a proxy is to be determined by the Chair of the meeting whose decision is to be final.
c. A proxy need not be a member of the Society.
51. A vote given or poll demanded by proxy or by the duly authorised deputy of a corporate body, shall be valid notwithstanding the previous determination of the authority of the person voting or demanding a poll unless notice of the determination was received by the Society at the registered office or at such other place at which the instrument of proxy was duly deposited:
i. before the commencement of the meeting or adjourned meeting at which the vote is given or the poll demanded; or
ii. (in the case of a poll taken otherwise than on the same day as the meeting or adjourned meeting) before the time appointed for taking the poll.
52. No objection shall be raised to the qualification of any voter except at the meeting or adjourned meeting at which the vote objected to is tendered. Any objection made in due time about any vote whether tendered personally or by proxy is to be determined by the Chair of the meeting, whose decision is to be final. Every vote not disallowed at the meeting will be valid.


CONSTITUTION OF THE SOCIETY BOARD
53. With effect from the Society's first annual general meeting, the Society Board is to have not less than 6 and not more than 15 members and will be made up as follows:
a. 6 members of the Society Board will be elected by the members in accordance with such arrangements as shall be determined by the Society Board;
b. 3 members of the Society Board will be nominated by contributors to the Greenock Morton Supporters' Loan Capital Fund in accordance with the Rules of the Fund;

Provided always that such nominations will only be valid and accepted by the Society Board where such Fund has received and still holds, after any repayments have been made, a sum of not less that £10,000
c. Not less than 3 and not more than 6 members will be co-opted by the Society Board in accordance with a Board Membership Policy which it will develop and adopt. The purpose of the Board Membership Policy will be to ensure that:
i. the Society Board has the skills and experience which it needs to operate effectively;
ii. the interests of the community served by the Society are adequately represented;
iii. the level of representation of different groups on the Society board strikes an appropriate balance having regard to their legitimate interest in the Society's affairs.

The following people in particular may be co-opted:
1. a representative or representatives of Inverclyde Local Council on behalf of itself and neighbouring local authorities;
2. a representative or representatives of the young;
3. a representative of local business;
4. a representative or representatives of employees of Greenock Morton Football Club;
5. a representative or representatives of the Sports Council and Football in the Community;
6. the representative of the Professional Footballers Association at Greenock Morton Football Club.
54. Until the first annual general meeting the members of the Society Board will be Stuart Duncan, Jim McColl, Aileen Sellar, Iain McColl, Brian Farren and David Brown and such other people as they shall co-opt.
55. Members of the Society Board will normally serve for periods of 3 years in accordance with the Board Membership Policy. Nominated and co-opted Society Board members may be reappointed for a further period subject to these Rules.
56. Members of the Society Board will not receive any payment for serving on the Society Board other than:
a. the payment of expenses incurred in carrying out their duties; and
b. nominal Society Board Fees approved by the members in general meeting.
57. No person can be a member of the Society Board who:
a. has been a member of the Society Board for 12 consecutive years;
b. has been declared bankrupt or compounded with their creditors;
c. is subject to a disqualification order made under the Company Directors Disqualification Act;
d. has been convicted of an indictable offence;
e. is or may on the basis of medical evidence be suffering from mental disorder;
f. fails to abide by any rules for the conduct of elections made by the Society Board 'under Rule 53(a).
58. Any member of the Society Board who:
a. ceases to comply with the criteria set out in these Rules; or
b. ceases to be a member of the Society; or
c. resigns
is to vacate the office of Society Board member.
59. Any member of the Society Board who:
a. fails without good cause to attend 3 consecutive Society Board meetings; or
b. fails without good cause to participate in board training
is to vacate the office of Society Board member if required to do so by a majority of the other Society Board members.
60. At the third and fourth annual general meeting of the Society two of the members of the Society Board first elected by the members (to be chosen by lot) will resign from office. Thereafter the two longest serving members of the Society Board elected by the members who have served the longest at the date of the annual general meeting each year will resign.
61. Casual vacancies arising amongst the members of the Society Board elected by the members will be dealt with as follows.
a. If a vacancy caused by retirement or removal is not filled at the meeting at which they retire or are removed, the vacancy may be filled by the Society Board.
b. A vacancy occurring by death or resignation may be filled by the Society Board.
c. In each case the member appointed to fill the vacancy is to retire at the next annual general meeting and the Society Board will make provision for an election to be held. For the avoidance of doubt the retiring member may stand for re-election at the meeting at which they retire.
62. A Society Board member may be removed from office by a resolution carried by the votes of not less than two-thirds of the members present in person or by proxy and voting on a poll at an annual or special general meeting of the Society of which notice has been duly given. A Society Board member may be suspended from office by a resolution of the other members of the Society Board on the grounds of conduct detrimental to the interests of the Society subject to such Society Board member having been provided with a fair opportunity to be heard. Such suspension shall be for a period not exceeding 4 months.
63. If at any time and for any reason after the first annual general meeting the number of members of the Society Board shall drop below 6 the remaining Society Board members may act but only for the purpose of filling vacancies or calling a general meeting.


SOCIETY BOARD MEETINGS
64. The Society Board will elect a Chair from amongst their number and will meet at least 4 times in every calendar year at such times and places as they think fit. Seven clear days' notice of the date and place of each meeting is to be given in writing by the Secretary to all members of the Society Board to the Chief Executive and to such other members of the Executive Board as the Society Board desire to attend the meeting. 50% of Society Board members including a minimum of 2 members of the Society Board elected by the members and 2 members of the Society Board nominated by the contributors to the Greenock Morton Supporters' Loan Capital Fund or such higher number as the Society Board may determine will form a quorum. A Society Board meeting may be called by shorter notice if it is so agreed by all the Society Board members entitled to attend and vote at the meeting.
65. Unless the Society Board decides otherwise, the Chief Executive is to be invited attend each meeting of the Society Board. Other members of the Executive Board are to attend meetings of the Society Board when requested to do so.
66. Meetings of the Society Board may be called either by the Secretary, or by a notice in writing given to the Secretary by the chair of the Society Board, or by two Society Board members who are not both elected by the members of the Society or both nominated by contributors to the Greenock Morton Supporters' Loan Capital Fund or both co-opted Board members, specifying the business to be discussed. The Secretary is to communicate every such notice to all Society Board members as soon as possible and the meeting is to be held at a venue decided by the Secretary not earlier than seven days and no later than fourteen days after the receipt by the Secretary of the notice. Should the Secretary fail to convene the meeting, the Chair or the two Society Board members who have given the notice in writing may call the meeting. No business is to be done at the meeting other than the business specified in the notice.
67. The Society Board may agree that its members can participate in its meetings by telephone video or computer link. Participation in a meeting in this manner shall be deemed to constitute presence in person at the meeting.
68. The Society Board may appoint specialist advisors to advise on any issue and may invite them to attend and speak (but not vote) at meetings of the Society Board.
69. Questions arising at a Society Board meeting shall be decided by a majority of votes. In case of an equality
70. A resolution in writing signed by all members of the Society Board will have the same effect as a resolution passed at a meeting of the Society Board and may consist of several documents in the like form each signed by one or more Society Board members.
71. Save for the exceptions referred to below, no Society Board member is to have any material financial interest personally or as a member of a firm or company or as a director or other officer of a business trading for profit or in any other way whatsoever in any contract or other transaction with the Society. For the purposes of this rule, an interest of a person who is connected with a Society Board member shall be treated as an interest of the Society Board member. The exceptions are that Society Board members may:
a. buy tickets or season tickets for football matches and use the facilities of any football club in which the Society is interested
b. be paid expenses including travelling expenses;
c. receive Society Board fees;
d. be contributors to the Greenock Morton Supporters' Loan Capital Fund;
e. if they are co-opted members of the Society Board be employees of Greenock Morton Football Club;
f. declare an interest in a particular contract or issue and:
i. not be present except with the permission of the Society Board in any discussion of the contract or issue
ii. not vote on the contract or issue (and if by inadvertence they do remain and vote, their vote is not be counted).
72. Any member of the Society Board who discloses a financial interest as described in the preceding Rule must vacate their office either for a period or permanently if requested so to do by a majority of the remaining members of the Society Board. Any member of the Society Board who fails to disclose any interest required to be disclosed under the preceding Rule must permanently vacate their office if required to do so by a majority of the remaining Society Board members.


COMMITTEES OF THE SOCIETY BOARD
73. The Society Board may delegate any of its powers to committees of the Society Board and in particular may appoint a sealing committee to consider documents submitted by the Executive Board for sealing and if appropriate to seal them.
74. The Society Board will:
a. decide the membership of each committee;
b. appoint the Chair of each committee;
c. lay down the procedure to be adopted by each committee (including the quorum);
d. produce a written record of the scope and authority of each committee.


CONSTITUTION OF THE EXECUTIVE BOARD
75. The Executive Board may have the following members who will be full or part time employees of the Society:
a. a Chief Executive
b. a Finance Director
c. a Human Resources Director
d. such other Executives as the Society Board thinks appropriate.
76. If the Society carries out any part of its business through a trading subsidiary company or society trading for the benefit of the community members of the Executive Board or the Society Board shall be the directors or board of management of the subsidiary.
77. The members of the Executive Board will be appointed by the Society Board on terms agreed and approved by the Society Board. The members of the Executive Board may be removed by the Society Board.
78. No person can be a member of the Executive Board who:
a. has been declared bankrupt or compounded with their creditors;
b. is subject to a disqualification order made under the Company Directors Disqualification Act;
c. has been convicted of an indictable offence;
d. is or may on the basis of medical evidence be suffering from mental disorder.
79. The Executive Board if appointed will meet at least once each month at such times and places as it thinks fit. Where practicable, seven clear days' notice of the date and place of each meeting is to be given in writing by the Secretary to all members of the Executive Board. A resolution in writing signed by all the members of the Executive Board shall be as valid and effectual as if it had been passed at a meeting of the Executive Board duly convened and held and may consist of several documents in the like form each signed by one or more Executive Board members.
80. The Executive Board may agree that its members can participate in its meetings by telephone video or computer link. Participation in a meeting in this manner shall be deemed to constitute presence in person at the meeting.
81. Save for the exceptions referred to below, no Executive Board member is to have any material financial interest personally or as a member of a firm or company or as a director or other officer of a business trading for profit or in any other way whatsoever in any contract or other transaction with the Society. For the purposes of this rule an interest of a person who is connected with an Executive Board member shall be treated as an interest of the Executive Board member. The exceptions are that Executive Board members may:
a. receive a salary and other benefits under a service contract with the Society;
b. buy tickets or season tickets for football matches and use the facilities of any football club in which the Society is interested;
c. be contributors to the Greenock Morton Supporters' Loan Capital Fund;
d. have an interest in a particular contract or issue if they shall first have explained their interest to the Executive Board and the Society Board and:
i. are not present except with the permission of the Executive Board in any discussion of the contract or issue
ii. do not vote on the contract or issue (and if by inadvertence they do remain and vote, their vote is to not be counted).
82. Any member of the Executive Board who discloses a financial interest as described in the preceding Rule must vacate their office either for a period or permanently if requested so to do by the Society Board. Any member of the Executive Board who fails to disclose any interest required to be disclosed under the preceding Rule must permanently vacate their office if required to do so by the Society Board.


FINANCIAL AUDIT
83. The Society Board will in respect of each year of account:
a. cause to be prepared a revenue account or revenue accounts which:
i. singly or together deal with the affairs of the Society and any subsidiary company or society as a whole for that year, and
ii. give a true and fair view of the income and expenditure of the Society and any subsidiary company or society for that year; and
iii. comply with the rules of the Scottish Football Association, the Scottish Premier League and any other relevant statutes or regulations;
b. cause to be prepared a balance sheet giving at that date a true and fair view of the state of the affairs of the Society and any subsidiary company or society and complying with the rules of the Scottish Football Association, the Scottish Premier League and any other relevant statutes or regulations.
84. The Society Board is to lay a revenue account and balance sheet duly audited and signed by the auditor and incorporating the report of the auditor thereon before each annual general meeting, accompanied by a report by the Society Board on the position of the affairs of the Society and any subsidiary or holding company or society signed by the chair of the Society Board meeting at which the report is adopted.
85. The Society Board is not to cause to be published any balance sheet unless it has previously been audited by the auditor and it incorporates a report by the auditor that it gives a true and fair view of the income and expenditure, or the state of the affairs of the Society, as the case may be. Every revenue account and balance sheet published is to be signed by the Secretary and by two Society Board members acting on behalf of the Society Board.
86. A qualified auditor must be appointed to audit the Society's accounts and a balance sheet for each financial year. In this rule qualified auditor of means a person who is a qualified auditor under Section 7 of the Friendly and Industrial and Provident Societies Act 1968 and Section 25 of the Companies Act 1989.
87. The auditor shall, in accordance with Section 9 of the Friendly and Industrial and Provident Societies Act 1968; make a report to the Society on the accounts examined by them and on the revenue account or accounts and the balance sheet of the Society for the year in question.
88. None of the following persons is to be appointed as auditor of the Society:
a. an officer or servant of the Society; or
b. a person who is a partner or close relative of or in the employment of or who employs an officer or servant of the Society.
89. Save as provided in this Rule every appointment of an auditor is to be made by resolution of a general meeting of the Society. The exceptions are:
a. the first appointment of an auditor is to be made within three months of the registration of the Society and is to be made by the Society Board if no general meeting of the Society is held within that time;
b. the Society Board may appoint an auditor to fill any casual vacancy occurring between general meetings of the Society.
90. An auditor appointed to audit the accounts and balance sheet of the Society for the preceding year of account (whether by a general meeting or by the Society Board) is to be re-appointed as auditor of the Society for the current year of account (whether or not any resolution expressly re-appointing them has been passed) unless:
a. a resolution has been passed at a general meeting of the Society appointing somebody instead of them or providing expressly that they are not be re-appointed; or
b. they have given to the Society notice in writing of their unwillingness to be reappointed; or
c. they are not permitted by these Rules to be the auditor; or
d. they have ceased to act as auditor of the Society by reason of incapacity;
e. proper notice of an intended resolution to appoint another person in their place has been given but the resolution cannot be proceeded with because of the death or incapacity of that other person.
91. A resolution at a general meeting of the Society:
i. appointing another person as auditor in place of a retiring auditor; or
ii. providing expressly that a retiring auditor is to not be re-appointed will not be effective unless notice of the intention to move it has been given to the Society not less than twenty eight days before the meeting at which it is to be moved. If such a notice is given the following procedure will be adopted. The Society will send a copy of the notice to the retiring auditor. If it is practicable to do so the Society will give notice of the intended resolution to its members with the notice of the meeting. If that is not practicable, the Society will publish details of the notice by advertisement not less than seven days before the meeting in a newspaper circulating in the area in which the Society conducts its business. If the retiring auditor makes any representations in writing to the Society in response to the notice or notifies the Society that they intend to make such representations, the Society will notify the members as required by Section 6 of the Friendly and Industrial and Provident Societies Act 1968.


PERFORMANCE AUDIT
92. A general meeting of the Society may require the Society Board to appoint appropriate people to act as auditors of the achievement by the Society of its objects or any aspect of the Society's performance of its obligations under these Rules.


ANNUAL RETURNS
93. The Society will make an annual return to the Registrar as required by the Act.
94. The Society will supply a copy of the last annual return with all supporting documents to any member on request and without charge.


AMENDMENT TO RULES
95. Unless these Rules say otherwise any Rule may be altered or rescinded, or any new rule may be made, by resolution of at least two thirds of these members who vote in person or by proxy at a general meeting. No change to these Rules shall be valid until registered.
96. The following Rules may only be changed by a majority of at least three quarters of the members who vote in person or by proxy at a general meeting:
a. Rules 1 - 6 inclusive
b. This Rule
c. Rule 97
d. Rule 98
e. Rule 103
97. In the case of this Rule, Rule 6 and Rule 103 the quorum at any general meeting called to consider a resolution to amend shall be not less than one half of the members entitled to vote at the meeting if the Society has up to 200 members when the meeting is called; not less than one third of the members entitled to vote at the meeting if the Society has more than 200 but less than 1000 members when the meeting is called; and not less than one quarter of the members entitled to vote at the meeting if the Society has more than 1000 members when the meeting is called.


CHANGES TO THE CONSTITUTION
98. The Act provides that the Society may by special resolution:
a. amalgamate with another Society or a company registered under the Companies Acts
b. transfer its engagements to another society or a company registered under the Companies Acts
c. convert itself into a company registered under the Companies Acts The quorum at any general meeting called to consider such a resolution shall be 50% of the members entitled to attend and vote at the meeting unless the resolution proposes an amalgamation with or transfer of engagements to another industrial and provident society trading for the benefit of the community and having provisions in its rules substantially identical to Rule 6, Rule 103 and this Rule.


INVESTMENT AND BORROWING
99. The funds of the Society may, to the extent permitted by the law for the time being in force and with the authority of the Society Board, be invested:
a. in the shares of any company or society;
b. in any manner expressly authorised by the Act;
c. but are not to be invested otherwise.
100. The Society may borrow money on such terms as the Society Board shall authorise.
101. A duly appointed receiver or manager of the whole or part of the Society's property may assume such powers of the Society Board or the Executive Board as he or she considers necessary to carry out his or her duties under the instrument of appointment.


DISSOLUTION
102. The Society may be dissolved by the consent of three-quarters of the members who sign an instrument of dissolution in the form provided by Treasury Regulations or by winding-up in the manner provided by the Act.
103. If on the winding up or dissolution of the Society there remains, after the satisfaction of all its debts and liabilities including any payment due to the Greenock Morton Supporters' Loan Capital Fund, any property whatsoever the same is to be transferred to:
a. a sporting charity or sporting charities operating in Inverclyde or the surrounding area; and/or
b. one or more societies established for the benefit of the community operating in the Inverclyde or the surrounding area; and/or
c. one or more societies established for the benefit of the community in each case as determined by the members at a meeting called to decide the issue. Nothing belonging to the Society shall be transferred to any other society unless that society has in its rules a rule substantially in the terms of this Rule.


INDEMNITY
104. Officers will be indemnified by the Society against all costs, losses and expenses which they may reasonably incur in discharge of their duties, including travelling expenses, and the amount for which such indemnity is provided will immediately attach as a charge on the property of the Society.
105. No officer is to be liable for any loss happening to the Society through the execution of the duties of their office, unless the loss be the consequence of their own dishonesty or gross negligence. Subject to the provisions of the Act every officer is to be indemnified out of the assets of the Society against any liability incurred by him in defending any proceedings, whether civil or criminal, in which judgement is given in his favour or in which he is acquitted or in connection with any application in which relief is granted to him by the Court from liability for negligence, default, breach of duty or breach of Society in relation to the affairs of the Society.


MISCELLANEOUS ADMINISTRATIVE PROVISIONS
106. Anything done in good faith by any meeting of the Society Board or the Executive Board shall be valid, notwithstanding that it is afterwards discovered that there was any defect in the appointment of any board member or board members or that any one or more of them were disqualified and shall be as valid as if every board member had been duly appointed and was duly qualified to serve.
107. The Society will not be entitled to rely against other persons on any alteration in its Rules if the alteration had not been registered at the material time and is not shown by the Society to have been known at that time to the person concerned.
108. Minutes of every general meeting, of every meeting of the Society and Executive Boards and of every meeting of a committee appointed by the Society Board are to be kept. Minutes of meetings will be read at the next meeting and signed by the Chair of that meeting. The signed minutes will be conclusive evidence of the events of the meeting.
109. The Society is to have a seal which is to be kept in the custody of the Secretary. The seal is not to be affixed to any instrument except by authority of the Society Board or a sealing committee appointed by the Society Board. The affixing of the seal is to be attested by the signature of one member of the Society Board and the Secretary.
110. The Societies registered office is : 6 Cloch Brae, Gourock, PA19 1AS. The Society is to keep:
a. a register in which the Secretary is to enter the following particulars:
i. the names and addresses of the members;
ii. details of the share held by each member and of the amount paid or agreed to be considered as paid for that share
iii. a statement of other property in the Society whether in loans or loan stock held by each member,
iv. the date at which each person was entered in the register as a member and the date at which any person ceased to be a member;
v. details of any deputy appointed by any corporate member;
vi. the names and addresses of the members of the Society and Executive Boards with the offices held by them and the dates on which they assumed once.
b. a duplicate register in which the Secretary is to enter all the particulars in the original register of members other than those referred to in (a)(ii) and (iii) above
c. a register of the holders of loan stock in which the Secretary is to enter such particulars as the Society Board direct and register all transfers of loan stock;
d. a register in which the Secretary is to enter such particulars of all mortgages and charges on land of the Society as the Society Board directs.
111. Subject to the provisions of the Data Protection Act the registers to be maintained by the Society may be kept in electronic form.
112. The inclusion or omission of the name of any person from the original register of members shall, in the absence of evidence to the contrary, be conclusive evidence that such person is or is not a member of the Society.
113. The Society is to keep proper books of account with respect to its transactions and to its assets and liabilities in accordance with Sections 1 and 2 of the Friendly and Industrial and Provident Societies Act 1968.
114. Members are entitled to inspect a) their own account cool.gif the duplicate register at the registered office at any reasonable time.
115. The Secretary is to deliver a copy of these Rules to every person on demand on payment of an amount fixed by the Society Board subject to the statutory maximum.
116. Notice of any change in the address of the registered once is to be sent by the Secretary to the Registrar of Friendly Societies in the form prescribed by Treasury Regulations within fourteen days of the change.
117. The registered name of the Society is to be engraved in legible characters on its seal.
118. The registered name of the Society is also to be mentioned in legible characters in all:
a. business letters, notices, advertisements and other official publications
b. bills of exchange, promissory notes, endorsements, cheques and orders for money or goods purporting to be signed by or on behalf of the Society
c. bills, invoices, receipts and letters of credit of the Society.


DISPUTES
119. Every dispute which arises out of these Rules between the Society and:
a. a member; or
b. any person aggrieved who has ceased to be a member within the six months prior to the date of the dispute;
c. any person claiming through such member or person aggrieved; or
d. any person bringing a claim under the rules of the Society; or
e. an officer of the Society
is to be submitted to an arbitrator agreed by the parties or nominated by the Chair of the Football Society. The arbitrator's decision will be binding and conclusive on all parties.
120. The cost of the arbitration will be borne as the arbitrator directs, and any person bringing a complaint must deposit with the Society the sum of £500 or such other reasonable sum as the Society Board shall decide to abide the arbitrator's decision.



Rules

of

GREENOCK MORTON SUPPORTERS' SOCIETY LIMITED

Registered under the Industrial and Provident Societies Acts 1966



And we can't see a nice wee letter to Mr Donald! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-16 15:48:26
QUOTE(rex manning @ Jul 16 2008, 03:30 PM) [snapback]478385[/snapback]
The big number 4 was the 1 plus point in another mind numbing perfomance. He is like Greasan but with a brain.

I thought the Ayr game was bad but jesus christ. we look absolute piss poor. We managed to drag Hartlepool down to our level in the 2nd half I suppose that can be looked on as some kind of plus. I would love to see us pass the ball for once! i dont remember the last time we just kept possesion of the football. It's always panic stations, just pass and move. Wheres our midfield?

The system doesnt work, and it's the only one we can play. Brilliant.

We have a SYSTEM? blink.gif

No wingers, no full backs, one jittery goalie, and nobody who can/will run with the ball.

I can just SMELL the ambition. ph34r.gif

Either Alistair Donald splashes the cash mighty soon,or DI/DC will be offski to better things-GUARANTEED.

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mortonjag 2008-07-16 15:52:24
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 16 2008, 03:34 PM) [snapback]478388[/snapback]
it would probably help if the Company morton use for stewarding didn't hire tiny 16 year old boys as stewards.

DAMN YOU-SPARROT will be in for a promoted post.
mortonjag 2008-07-16 15:56:56
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 16 2008, 03:44 PM) [snapback]478394[/snapback]
legally the rules have to be seen by all, will the letters be you'll find out soon

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I can find out anything I want to about the Trust Bryan-that's one of the reasons I pish myself laughing at all the cloak and dagger stuff.

You're worse than the WRI-honestly! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-16 16:01:44
QUOTE(giz @ Jul 16 2008, 03:50 PM) [snapback]478402[/snapback]
Apparently its Celtic's 1st team against the same Morton team as last night (dont know if its the same starting or ending 11?)

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mortonjag 2008-07-16 19:13:11
QUOTE(giz @ Jul 16 2008, 04:05 PM) [snapback]478412[/snapback]
Dont shoot the messenger!

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QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jul 16 2008, 04:51 PM) [snapback]478447[/snapback]
It is smartass. rolleyes.gif

OH REALLY Smiffy-and how do you care to define Celtic's 'First Team' in a pre season bounce match-but wait-maybe you're a Tim! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-16 19:19:33
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 16 2008, 05:03 PM) [snapback]478453[/snapback]
laugh.gif i did think about it for a second, but it wasn't him. sad.gif

To whom do you refer?
mortonjag 2008-07-16 19:29:12
QUOTE(Ahh Alec Boy Mmyess @ Jul 16 2008, 07:07 PM) [snapback]478531[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-07-16 19:38:29
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jul 16 2008, 06:43 PM) [snapback]478516[/snapback]
that's near enough my plan, dietcokehound.
who says they're over-priced? that's what people will pay. in fact it's less than what people will pay. as for 'that street', on which you are no doubt an expert, my arse, the only vandalism i've ever seen is some wee toerag scrawling his tag on my for sale sign last week. i was in the local park after dark a few weeks ago and the local youths were drinking bottled water.

Not the first time you've been seen over at the Uni. Once the over priced flat goes you may rest your butt for a little.
mortonjag 2008-07-16 19:55:38
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 16 2008, 07:40 PM) [snapback]478563[/snapback]
I disagree entirely that corporal punishment of adults of any form is a true deterrent.
Setencing though should never be mandatory: judges are paid a lot of money to asess the mitigating factors, and given an efficient prison system should be under no pressure when giving their verdict.
Of course proper rehablitation in prisons (possibly using Youngsa's said method) is far more beneficial to society than hitting criminals with bits of wood.

I think you've got that message over loud and clear SPARROT

I have PLENTY of respect for folk of your age AND younger, who demonstrate maturity, the ability to listen to the voice of experience, and the good sense not to spout others' opinions and imagine they'll escape scot free.

You are an extremely immature 17 year old child-your family have clearly seen you as something of an intellectual prize and have pandered to your 'clever little boy' persona. Doubtless your peers perceive you as Einstein or a total fud.

In my opinion you require a damned good thrashing. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-16 20:02:08
QUOTE(Honey Monster @ Jul 16 2008, 06:35 PM) [snapback]478510[/snapback]
The Honey Monster appreciates everybodys concern.

Honey Monster-are you me or is that Big Blue Eyes or is Deego both? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-16 20:16:13
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 16 2008, 07:58 PM) [snapback]478578[/snapback]
Of course Mortonjag's opinion is more valued than anyone else's opinion, which is why he spouts it 21,000 times and generally acts like a 4 year old when questioned about the reasoning behind said opinion.
I refuse to accept your opinion as greater than anyone else's on this board: that is all it is - one sad, pyschologically damaged man's opinion.

I do understand SPARROT-I REALLY do.

What's tonight's bedtime story from that over indulgent doting wee Mammy of yours as she tucks you up nice and cosy in your wee Jesus cradle?

Surely not Tolstoy again?

Might I suggest a nice ghostie story about Mad Mentaljag, Fing, and Monkey beating you in the final of Junior Mastermind, and you still getting the trophy because you refused to accept the decision?

How about refusing to accept that you'll drown if I put a pair of concrete wellies on your wee pink flippers and fling you off Princes Pier.

'Show me the EVIDENCE' I hear you bleat pathetically in your recently broken voice. thumbdown.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-16 20:19:40
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jul 16 2008, 07:59 PM) [snapback]478579[/snapback]
thought something with lots of anger might appeal to you
cheers mj

It's a pleasure young man. You are one of many who appear capable of voicing youthful opinion without announcing to the world that they are God almighty! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-16 20:34:46
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 16 2008, 08:06 PM) [snapback]478585[/snapback]
Certain posters on here seem to be defending those who carry knives.

Is this because they do it themselves or are aware of friends or family that do ??

These same posters I'd also doubt have signed Damian's Law.
To the above please hang your head in shame.



QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 16 2008, 08:19 PM) [snapback]478603[/snapback]
Ha, well a harsher person than I would suggest a sinister motive behind your longings for young people and children to listen to your "voice of experience", but I'm not going to stoop to that level.
You've already ran out of analogies: the same bedtime one has been regurgitated four times now.
Where's the originality, creativity or intelligence?


'Run' my child-if ever proof were needed of my 'clever little child of less educated and doting parents' , I have it in that one rudimentary mistake!

You're not old enough to vote.

You're not old enough to drink.

You're old enough to get your hole but instead have hypertrophic wrist muscles. The attractive young males prefer men to mouths.

In truth you're a bit of a waste of space-BUT- that's only the opinion of a VASTLY experienced professional who's old enough to be your Grandparent. SPARROT.

Never let anything get in the way of your right to be right-just like Mummy tells you.

Of course you're 'not going to stop to my level' . How could you when you are still incapable of standing on your own two feet? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-16 20:44:16
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 16 2008, 08:37 PM) [snapback]478615[/snapback]
I'll take your word for it on that one.
Perhaps Mortonjag would like to iron out a few of his own rudimentary mistakes before preaching to others.
Or you could just remain a c***.

Mortonjag does not make mistakes SPARROT. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-16 20:45:09
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 16 2008, 08:39 PM) [snapback]478616[/snapback]
LeyTON and VT......
If someone was to stab me tonight, God Forbid, and I lived to tell the tale, what do you two think would be a suitable sentence ??

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mortonjag 2008-07-16 20:48:13
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 16 2008, 08:28 PM) [snapback]478611[/snapback]
When will you actually stop repeatedly lying and return to some level of adult debate?

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mortonjag 2008-07-16 20:51:00
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 16 2008, 08:42 PM) [snapback]478618[/snapback]
Since when did I become a judge?
Although it doesn't suprise me that you won't retract your earlier spurious allegations, you're above that level of curteousy after all.

From the first time you needed a damned good thrashing and failed to get it SPARROT.
mortonjag 2008-07-16 20:59:13
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 16 2008, 08:53 PM) [snapback]478632[/snapback]
"Mortonjag expresses a repressed desire, nay, urge, to beat children."

Mortonjag's desire to birch knife toting thugs is not repressed.

I do sincerely believe that you would have grown up by now if you'd had some respect instilled into you. Instead you present as an offensively self opinionated little man who has clearly been over indulged by doting parents.

A good birching right now would sort you out once and for all SPARROT-GUARANTEED! bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-16 21:07:52
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 16 2008, 09:01 PM) [snapback]478644[/snapback]
Oh, but you see, your opinion is utterly irrelevant, namely because you are a c*** whose sole aim in life is to promote your own achievements in your irrepresible ego trips.
Respect is earned, and you have did nothing of note to earn my respect, so screw you.

HA SPARROT-it gets worse. You're NOT really that bright at all.Perhaps I've been too hard on you son.

Go to sleep, my baby
Close your pretty blue eyes
Angels are above you
Looking down to say "I love you"
Great big moon is shining
Stars begin to peep
Time for little piccaninnies
To go to sleep.

THERE! wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 05:32:05
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 16 2008, 07:42 PM) [snapback]478565[/snapback]
Did you mean METAL, as that's what they're made of.
As WillowMan reaches for his coat....

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Well done Willy Man-four and a half hours before anybody spotted that! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 05:43:59
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Jul 16 2008, 08:54 PM) [snapback]478635[/snapback]
Actually I felt he had to go also, I just didn't feel the need to drone on about it on these boards.


The call for JM's head was anything but droning. More like full blooded war cries.

Are you quite a sanctimonious soul? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 05:49:51
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 16 2008, 07:57 PM) [snapback]478576[/snapback]
Dougie smile.gif

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Shoogly was there on Tuesday. I thought he looked quite old, sad, and serious. I wanted to give him a big hug.
mortonjag 2008-07-17 05:55:03
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jul 16 2008, 08:44 PM) [snapback]478620[/snapback]
Because I knew the line-ups before KO. laugh.gif

Hey Smiffy-just because the squad had MANY first team players doesn't mean we 'played the first team'.

BTW that was the Tims' first get together after the closed season and our SIXTH match!

Heady stuff indeed! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 06:13:07
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 16 2008, 08:15 PM) [snapback]478594[/snapback]
fancy it then mj

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Sure!

Given that the Trust has made it eminently clear that it does not represent the fans, and is simply a 'shareholder', would the Trust welcome the setting up of an independent organisation which WOULD represent the fans, AND be truly independent of the Board-an organisation with which the body of the fans could readily identify.

Such an organisation could presumably take over the functions which the Trust has felt obliged to perform (giving money to Shoogly), and do so in a pro active and accountable manner.

mortonjag 2008-07-17 06:21:53
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Jul 16 2008, 11:22 PM) [snapback]478692[/snapback]
wouldnt worry about it unless you like scat and fart jokes?

HA-that's still the perception of the Jessie Boys!

The early days are over-the forum has matured significantly, and is free of clypes, the Daddies of clypes, and jumped up 17 year old brats.

There is much intelligent debate interspersed with a little nonsense and the rare crudity.

Highly recommended to all adults irrespective of age. blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 06:29:16
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jul 16 2008, 10:03 PM) [snapback]478666[/snapback]
is it? thats quite imaginative laugh.gif

It's perfectly possible this is a genuine young lady. What must she think of our posters cynicism? dry.gif

I've had a quick look at her profile and she seems the sort of quality person we should be welcoming.

Maybe too many wee chips on wee shoulders-eh OTP?
mortonjag 2008-07-17 06:58:47
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 16 2008, 09:13 PM) [snapback]478649[/snapback]
Given up on spacing your dashes have you?
And your sentences.
Why hello there Mr Pot, how are you today?

There is a vast difference SPARROT. Mortonjag missed the space bar once, while 'pasting' a little lullaby in original form. rolleyes.gif

You, on the other hand, have failed to grasp the RUDIMENTS of English grammar.

I fully appreciate that, like Mortonjag, you come from humble origins.

In your knife crime rife scheme, expressions like 'I seen', and 'I done', are presumably part of everyday speech. Mortonjag fully expects ordinary folk to speak in ordinary language.

Your inability to adapt, however, to 'The Queen's English', during your lengthy treatises and lectures, is proof positive of grammatical ignorance consequent on limited intelligence. Grammatical gaffes do NOT go down well with properly educated people.


Standards have clearly slipped as much in education as in administration of justice in this once fine land of ours.

Brats who fail to do their homework properly should be BIRCHED too. ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 07:26:24
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jul 17 2008, 04:01 AM) [snapback]478709[/snapback]
and we can compare IP addresses to see who the alias belongs to. if we can be bothered

HMM!

I suspect Edinton may be Honey Monster-it's not Tontastic-he's actually Colkitto as everybody well knows.
mortonjag 2008-07-17 07:30:17
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 17 2008, 12:59 AM) [snapback]478707[/snapback]
wearing seatbelts when you crash is just as dangerous as not wearing one. If you're going to crash so hard you go flying through the windscreen then the seatbelt is going to do just as much damage anyway.

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mortonjag 2008-07-17 07:33:16
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 16 2008, 10:59 PM) [snapback]478676[/snapback]
Asked twice to get into the new forum ph34r.gif

Didnae happen. dry.gif

Lady McB(eth) got her new car today. Nanny state wagon, kept beepin at me 'cause I didnae wear my seat belt. mellow.gif mellow.gif

Lady McB(eth) gave me hell. crying.gif

Getting past my sell by......................................... unsure.gif

Good God-surely Mr and Mrs Bam have not fallen into the Mearns 4x4 shaggin' wagon 'keepin' up with the Rashids' trap! mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 07:36:13
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jul 17 2008, 06:41 AM) [snapback]478718[/snapback]
aye, the current top ten topics really show the intellectual yet irreverent character that the new sandpit is taking on. right enough.

would you shag helen mirren?

poll: age difference

home made goodies that your maw/granny made

what's even better than winning gold in the paralympics?

names for female genitalia

poll: do you have a criminal record

looking at people's profiles - 44 tonnes is one of the bent shots!

losing the big v - popping yer cherry or someone else's

my neighbours are shagging

a need a s***e

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mortonjag 2008-07-17 07:39:48 Ginger wine.
mortonjag 2008-07-17 07:42:30
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 16 2008, 10:08 PM) [snapback]478667[/snapback]
Precisely! She was wrinklier too. I licked her tits and her fanny at the same time. rip.gif

Your lingual capacity befits a Shooglyphile.
mortonjag 2008-07-17 07:45:22 If I was attracted to/felt the need to shag 62 year old females I definitely give it a bash for the right price.

I'd prefer to stick to tall weedy looking young men in their early twenties. wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 08:55:28
QUOTE(marxist_ton @ Jul 17 2008, 08:15 AM) [snapback]478727[/snapback]
I use knives for piping reasons and always carry a box of blades in my case at all times.

If I was stopped and searched, should I be put away for five years?

This is common practice for most pipers as a knife is an important tool for maintenance purposes.

I love it how all of you shouting for corporal punishment [b]still have not replied to my last post, where I prove, using official stats, that it does not deter crime :huh[/b]:

Why is this? Because you saw those facts and realised you were wrong, but didn't want to admit it? Please enlighten me.

And I'm speaking as someone who's had a knife pulled on him aswell, while innocently walking home, and im not half as bitter as the people on here who haven't.

I've perhaps missed it but I haven't seen you quote any statistics about corporal punishment. Capital punishment is far from what's being suggested here. In any case I have little faith in bare statistics, especially when they fly in the face of 'common sense'.

Your red herring about piping is just that. Carpet fitters carry Stanley knives, pipers carry whatever you call them, and GP's carry scalpels. They are carried within appropriate containers and are clearly there for a specific purpose.

Birching is, in the long term, FAR more humane than letting some misguided youth serve a criminal apprenticeship for years at huge public expense.

It's intended to be extremely unpleasant. It has been an effective deterrent where used (most recently in the Isle of Man), and the culprit can walk away licking his wounds while deciding never to carry a blade again.

I too have been threatened with a knife on three separate occasions-by mentally ill patients. It was a bit scary, but those folk were NOT in control-unlike the little swine who deliberately get 'tooled up'.

What I'm suggesting is that SOMETHING radical needs done NOW. If it has to be jail for a minimum of-say, five years-so be it, but it will cost a fortune, and going back to your statistics, many will come out with no future to look forward to, and well educated in criminal techniques.

Compare that to a good hard birching which favours decent society AND the Neds.

The truth is that most folk who are anti-birching are youngsters with heads full of ideology and with little life experience.

Prevention is obviously better than cure, but once an infectious disease starts to spread it often takes rapid, radical and very unpleasant treatment to prevent an epidemic.


mortonjag 2008-07-17 10:41:29
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 17 2008, 08:47 AM) [snapback]478732[/snapback]
Would that be a hug in the manner of a Python?

Not at all-why ever did you suggest that?
mortonjag 2008-07-17 10:49:34
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 17 2008, 10:13 AM) [snapback]478739[/snapback]
The point is fandan, that some people like that s*** and there's barely been a single whimper of complaint. So shut yer yap ya sarky bam.

Correct-the Jessie Boys are mutually respectful and you're a wee POUFFE.
mortonjag 2008-07-17 10:51:26 Rhubarb tart.
mortonjag 2008-07-17 10:53:18
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 17 2008, 08:35 AM) [snapback]478730[/snapback]
Sounds just like Port-ton, Deego will be disappointed.

Aw-wee Deeglet's a fine lover too!
mortonjag 2008-07-17 10:55:57 My partner's off all day to a bloody church wedding and reception. Mortonjag was invited but declined.

I can't stand the artificiality-they are a total waste of money, and most victims get divorced within ten years anyway.

Thoughts.
mortonjag 2008-07-17 13:35:27
QUOTE(jpmil @ Jul 17 2008, 08:25 AM) [snapback]478729[/snapback]
It would seem that money is not a problem at Dens Park! Hope it'snt another Gretna in the making.

It isn't and it never could be.

Gretna were non viable from day one because of the demographic situation. Dundee is historically a bigger club than their city rivals with a large potential fan base.
mortonjag 2008-07-17 13:48:12
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jul 17 2008, 12:20 PM) [snapback]478791[/snapback]
I've heard from a source that he was, is, and always will be ... a versatile footballer who is struggling to win his place back in the team.

Like our £250,000 Jimbo? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


SPOONSY WAS, IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE A STRIKER!



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mortonjag 2008-07-17 13:51:26
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 17 2008, 12:57 PM) [snapback]478821[/snapback]
You can't call me a pouffe out here. MODS!!

BOOZEHOUND WAS, IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE A POUFFE
mortonjag 2008-07-17 14:01:02
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 17 2008, 12:31 PM) [snapback]478807[/snapback]
My best friend died in a car crash a year and a half ago, the car he was a passenger in went off the Motorway and hit a tree, im not saying he would have survived if he didn't have his seatbelt on but when they hit the tree the Seatbelt broke his ribs, spine and god knows what else. His whole chest caved in and all because of the seatbelt.

PT-there have been freak accidents where folk have been thrown clear and survived. I can understand you believing that might have happened to your friend.

I can only say completely dispassionately that those cases are a complete rarity. There is incontrovertible evidence to prove that not wearing a seatbelt is plain lunacy.
mortonjag 2008-07-17 14:12:51
QUOTE(marxist_ton @ Jul 17 2008, 10:58 AM) [snapback]478763[/snapback]
This was the second post that I made that was ignored rolleyes.gif



And taunton, the current Scottish & British Pipe Band Champions have a vast history of Socialism and participating in events fighting for workers rights wink.gif



Perhaps it was ignored because it was irrelevant to a debate about CORPORAL PUNISHMENT-not capital punishment. I can assure you that when we had the death penalty here, hardened cons were pretty careful. It didn't stop crime but it largely deterred carrying lethal weapons on the job.

Source-my father in law. Barlinnie Chaplain for ten years, and closer to the lags than any bloody social worker.



QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jul 17 2008, 11:01 AM) [snapback]478765[/snapback]
we already HAVE mandatory sentances for murder..it's called LIFE.. but since when has anyone actually done LIFE.. unless it's a media driven frenzy which contrives to report 'public opinion' (which the media rarely does) then the govt will use this as a popularity tool, while spouting pish about how they are protecting us... what makes one life more important than another ? why should a police officers injuries be deemed more important than any memeber of the public ? I am not being negative to police officers, but if a contstable gets murdered in the line of duty, then ..hard facts here.. that was a risk he was prepared to accept as part of his duties, uphold the law and serve and protect the public, if a man walking home after a night out gets murdered for no reason..then why is HIS killer NOT held with the same contempt as the killer of a police officer by our govt/judges... because he's not one of them upper class elite is he ? he doesnt represent the govt on the street as the police man does !! common sense must prevail, but for f***s sake if the judges are not sure about how dangerous some of these animals are..then they are talking to the wrong people... let the jury decide on the sentance !

....or have a national referendum on the death penalty-same thing really. thumbup2.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 14:18:37
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 17 2008, 01:11 PM) [snapback]478829[/snapback]
And that's its shame, in most cases anyway. Political language is Newspeak, when politicians talk of compromise they usually mean betrayal. Salmond is probably just another shabby liar, but what the feck, I voted for his shambles of a party in the hope (most likely a vain one) that the Scottish people might take charge of their own affairs and build a fair and just society. Did I compromise? We shall see.

'Always' Mr Edwards.

Bawheid the Betrayer aka Judas Salmond.
mortonjag 2008-07-17 14:27:57
QUOTE(big blue eyes @ Jul 17 2008, 02:25 PM) [snapback]478906[/snapback]
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I've made a quite a lot of money with my photographs, and I'm NOT telling you where else you can see me.

Why is it that a Ton supporter can't do some modelling? My Mum's a professional model, and my Dad's in photography-he makes plenty of money from it too.
Zoe wub.gif

I empathise Zoe. This pubic massage board is full of jealous young men. They're even jealous of a decrepit old man like me! mad.gif

BTW I think you are an attractive young woman, and I wish you well in your studies.
mortonjag 2008-07-17 14:32:36 unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 14:38:10
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 17 2008, 02:29 PM) [snapback]478915[/snapback]
you've been spending too much time in the pub with those crash test dummies again.
nah you're probably right, seat belts save more lives than kill people thats for sure.

If you're a good boy I might tell you and the other Jessie Boys-maybe even Mr Bam once he works out which buttons to press-about my experience one night with a crash test dummy.

I WAS a wee bit drunk at the time, but he still had a crackin' arse on him.
mortonjag 2008-07-17 14:40:39
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jul 17 2008, 02:29 PM) [snapback]478914[/snapback]
sounds like you did compromise, since you voted for someone you didn't like.

the compromises i was talking about werent those which politicians speak of, although you are quite right in what you say. What i mean is that even by choosing a political party to vote for you are automatically compromising your beliefs, because as well as voting for some policies you agree with you will ultimately also be voting for a bunch of policies that you don't agree with.

I therefore conclude that the only way forward is by living in a totalitarian dictatorship. Take away peoples choice, and then there will be no compromise. Dictatorship would also allow the government to make some genuinely long term policies without fear of being booted out 3 years down the line before getting to see their plans through to fruition.

I've thought for some time that the only answer is a benevolent dictator. blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 14:46:47
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 17 2008, 02:38 PM) [snapback]478921[/snapback]
Hell no, the complete opposite. Lady McB(eth) had a mondeo from new which was nearly nine years old. I had driven for over 30 years without so much as a bump. Till the end of June, I was giving way at a give way, as you do, when a very polite lady of the Mearns ran into my back. Mondeo a right off, seabeltless me walked out exchanged details with the lady.

Time for a new car. mad.gif This is the mearns, the street is hoachin' with Mercs, beemers, and Volvos. Not the thang for Lady McB(eth), she got a lovely pre-reg Focus whose only fault is the facking seat belt thing.




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Nothing wrong with a Focus Mr Bam-if you really want to beat the 'seat belt thing' just get an old seat belt clip in a scrappy and pop it into the slot! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 14:49:30
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 17 2008, 02:42 PM) [snapback]478928[/snapback]
Don't like him? I've never met the guy. I don't like the SNP's economic policies because you can't tell them apart from the Tories' or New Labour's. Why does it always have to come down to personalities? I think the main reason Thatcher is hated so much in Scotland is because she's an English middle class woman. Blair and Brown adopted her policies but are they hated as much? I don't think so.

Blair and Brown are English middle class women.
mortonjag 2008-07-17 14:55:35
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 17 2008, 02:30 PM) [snapback]478916[/snapback]
We have Vikington, we were fooled into thinking he was a scandanavian wonderkid, and hopefully you will be too.

He sure is, and he'll talk the rest of you through the game. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 15:02:41
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jul 17 2008, 02:49 PM) [snapback]478935[/snapback]
how do you know ?

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I, for one, would NEVER work for Shoogly! bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 15:06:29
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jul 17 2008, 02:13 PM) [snapback]478894[/snapback]
Everyone calls Rae "Shoogly", no-one but that even more senile old guy that only about 3 people have ever seen calls Beanie by that stupid name! laugh.gif

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I thought you were being good recently. I shall be calling you CHOCOLATE BOY again! sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 15:08:39
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jul 17 2008, 03:04 PM) [snapback]478942[/snapback]
So do I on an almost daily basis to be honest. And I'm pretty sure he referref to "daft Morton fans", something which is also true of a good number.

Shoogly was far more discourteous to the fans.
mortonjag 2008-07-17 15:15:58
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 17 2008, 02:57 PM) [snapback]478940[/snapback]
No, you wouldn't fit the bill. Not in terms of benevolence any way. laugh.gif

Mortonjag's goodwill is abundant. He is much misunderstood.
mortonjag 2008-07-17 15:19:46
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 17 2008, 03:12 PM) [snapback]478955[/snapback]
Erm, you actually missed the space bar twice, so your arithmetical skills aren't quite up to scratch either.
Must do better.

I'm missing the Monkey and Fing who are down in Oxford for the graduation. I hope to have the photos for Monday.

Will you be attending a proper University come this Autumn? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 15:28:31
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 17 2008, 02:43 PM) [snapback]478930[/snapback]
As to the seat belt law, it's a s***e law. I don't base this on stats, rather it's about personal responsibility and liberty.

The state and it's operatives are right to insist that I drive sober, that I stick to speed limits, get my car MOT'd, don't use my mobile when driving. Failure to respect these laws can have an impact (literaly) on the lives of others.

With all respect to the nanny statists the seat belt thing is only about my life, it's none of their business.
(I'll have the money/cost debate with anyone who wants.)

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I take it the family will be happy to see you go then! oops.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 15:31:07
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 17 2008, 03:27 PM) [snapback]478977[/snapback]
I'm unsure as to whether my university would meet your criteria for "proper".

Oh DO tell-so long as it's not PISHLEY, I promise not to laugh! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 15:33:00
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 17 2008, 03:25 PM) [snapback]478972[/snapback]
Maybe you should read my post again. I voted SNP for one reason only : Self Determination for the Scottish People. I repeat, if they don't deliver on that then I will have compromised. Liar? Show me a politician that isn't... at least to some degree..... they're human after all.

A VERY sweeping assumption Mr Edwards.
mortonjag 2008-07-17 15:36:23 Gosh-everybody's being up front-oh well here goes.

Three years older and twenty nine years younger (yesterday at the latest count)! bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 15:42:08
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 17 2008, 02:47 PM) [snapback]478934[/snapback]
Does a parking fine count? laugh.gif

In the spirit of Donga's earlier reply:

Lady McB(eth) has Boney M's greatest hits. unsure.gif



In the spirit of the earlier jobby threads Mr Bam (highly recommended BTW)


Show me your motion
Tra la la la la
Come on show me your motion
Tra la la la la la
Show me your motion
Tra la la la la
She looks like a sugar in a plum
Plum plum


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mortonjag 2008-07-17 17:18:49
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 17 2008, 03:20 PM) [snapback]478966[/snapback]
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Egil Ostenstad anyone?
Nothing beats good communication from the back: perhaps Morton's defenders could learn a thing or two. blush.gif

Good gracious young man-I'm beginning to see you in a new light. Are you free on Saturday evening?
mortonjag 2008-07-17 17:29:14 It's still too early to judge Wakey-he was pure mince when he arrived but latterly has looked much better and was on target three times on Tuesday evening.

Spoonsy's the ideal target man for a shower of spiteful wee boys. He's the best footballer at the club. If he ain't producing on the pitch, by all means slate him, but just please stop talking keech about his ability.
mortonjag 2008-07-17 17:34:15
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 17 2008, 03:42 PM) [snapback]479000[/snapback]
Strathclyde. blush.gif

Strathclyde is a reasonably proper University. Two of my children are graduates thereof! Not the Monkey and Fing who have done MUCH better.

Now SPARROT-PLEASE tell me you're about to study something worthwhile, and not bloody politics and history!
mortonjag 2008-07-17 17:41:41
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 17 2008, 05:03 PM) [snapback]479055[/snapback]
Who knows Sir, who knows.

The same argument could apply to allowing people to only buy 10 units of alcohol weekly on a state given ration card.

Or the banning of fags and ceegars.

Or the banning of many foods which contain too much fat.

etc, etc.

Personal freedom plus personal responsibility.

ETA, read the red part of my sig. laugh.gif

You are a bad and irresponsible man Mr Bam.

As your ample momentum projects you through the windscreen and you collide with and kill some poor blind frail Midden supporter before landing on your big bum with only a bruise on your left elbow-I hope you will be entirely proud of yourself.

We probably will be too. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 17:50:05
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 17 2008, 05:17 PM) [snapback]479061[/snapback]
Checking for worms, faecal blood, or jist a coprophile?

Or worse, a coprophage?

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Yum, yum, empty bum!

QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 17 2008, 05:18 PM) [snapback]479062[/snapback]
BTW Jag, does that song not start
"Brown bits on my ring, tra la la la la."? blush.gif

Naughty-that's the Klingons you're talking about.
mortonjag 2008-07-17 17:55:23
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 17 2008, 05:53 PM) [snapback]479083[/snapback]
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Unfortunately not.

Dammit-bloody hedgehog AGAIN. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 18:01:37
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jul 17 2008, 05:01 PM) [snapback]479053[/snapback]
I like living in the west end of Glasgow... the reason i moved up here in the first place was so that i didnt need to commute from Gourock every day. If i am going to live up here, i might as well live in an area that is close to the friends i have in glasgow, and is also convenient for shops and places to go out etc, as well as not too far from town and also isnt bandit country. Therefore i chose to live in the west end, nothing pretentious about it.

Price wise however, its a pretty big difference from inverclyde - which is precisely why i will be moving back down the road within the next 12 months when i get round to buying a place. Its an easy choice imo - for the same price range i can have either a pokey 1 bedroom flat in a glasgow housing scheme, or spacious 2 bedroom flat with panoramic waterfront views in gourock.

The West end is FULL of pretentious snobbery-and Manky's flat IS overpriced-but as he says-folk will pay for the address.

I have lived in Hyndland, Hughenden, and Partick. My brother lives in leafy Dowanhill. Living in the West end doesn't make you a poser or a f*nny, but you sure meet plenty! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 18:05:58
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 17 2008, 05:58 PM) [snapback]479088[/snapback]
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OH DEAR-I suspected as much! mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 18:51:54
QUOTE(BMC @ Jul 17 2008, 06:23 PM) [snapback]479101[/snapback]
Sorry but that is nonsense, I've experienced that scenario and the worst the seatbelt did to me was bruising and whiplash, slightly better option than being thrown through a pain of glass onto the tarmac.

I think port ton already conceded that his judgement has been coloured by his friend's death-purportedly (and possibly) caused by his seatbelt.

Mr Bam, on the other hand, argues that it is much more virtuous to defend individual liberty to kill oneself instead of presenting the taxpayer with a huge, and sometimes pointless NHS bill.

The rest of us have to rely on objective evidence. I don't think Lewis Hamilton will be unbelting on the advice of a few of our pubic massage board posters! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 19:08:25
QUOTE(marxist_ton @ Jul 17 2008, 06:28 PM) [snapback]479103[/snapback]
Erm...The razor gangs of the 1930s? I'm pretty sure capital punishment was in use there huh.gif And please reply this time kthnxbye smile.gif

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You're becoming more confusing by the minute. Let's start with razor gangs-any 'medic' will explain to you that attacks with an open (cut throat) razor cause horrific scarring injuries, but RARELY are fatal.

On the contrary, one deep penetrating wound from a knife blade can be fatal. I remember one case in Glasgow Royal where two guys were brought in-one DIED from his single stab wound, while the other (who was cobbled up by myself and a colleague) had literally two dozen non fatal wounds. Incidentally, it transpired that he had aimed that one blow in desperation, but he still 'went down' for culpable homicide on a reduced charge. That illustrates why knife crime HAS to be stopped NOW.

The existing capital punishment was not a deterrent because it was not specifically aimed at, and rarely was pertinent in razor gang warfare.

Birching-specifically aimed at knife carrying-and well advertised, WOULD work, as it has worked in the past, or would you prefer to lock silly young kids away for long periods at huge public expense and in so doing turn them into hardened criminals?
mortonjag 2008-07-17 19:13:55 It's always the same when a player leaves! ph34r.gif

I can't prove an entirely personal assessment, but I gained the impression that Scotty was an arrogant wee fud. He still served the club well.
mortonjag 2008-07-17 19:24:51
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 17 2008, 06:22 PM) [snapback]479100[/snapback]
I have one to attend in August and I'm seriously pissed aff.In fact I don't even know the couple mad.gif I'm in total agreement with MJ, it's wan load of pish. In fact for ruining my Saturday I hope they get divorced and it doesn't last.

I hope in the not too distant future the husband humps some clatty bint one drunken night when he is out with his mates.
Then he rides the wife and gives her a dose ! Marriage over !

Well Spurtle-take the bull by the horns and decline. My partner had little choice as the bride is an old school friend, but I don't know them at all. It's cost her an arm and a leg on a daft outfit and present too! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 19:33:42 I've seen enough of young Graham to suggest that he may end up doing quite well out of football.

Let's not forget his age, his relatively few outings for us, and the abject quality of supply in the last couple of seasons.

Anybody remember his first half performance against Gretna at Palmerston?
mortonjag 2008-07-17 20:03:37
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jul 17 2008, 06:29 PM) [snapback]479104[/snapback]
What did Helen Keller call her kids?

Murrrrrrrrrghrruuurrrrrrgh.

(stolen from EdinTon's book, but was so good i just had to post it)

He's written a book now-there's no keeping up with that young man!

New born baby has enormous deformed ear-parents are distraught-Doc says-'Unfortunately it's deaf too'.
mortonjag 2008-07-17 20:08:16
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Jul 17 2008, 07:47 PM) [snapback]479141[/snapback]
You don't know whether you're coming or going. For clarity how many partners do you have and of which sex, species, inate object etc etc etc biggrin.gif

laugh.gif
I have one real partner- a delightful young lady who caters well for my heterosexual appetite, and is broad minded enough to tolerate my other peccadillos.
mortonjag 2008-07-17 20:10:34
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Jul 17 2008, 07:50 PM) [snapback]479142[/snapback]
30 year swing for me, 20 years older and 10 years younger.

Which was the female?
mortonjag 2008-07-17 20:13:54
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 17 2008, 07:58 PM) [snapback]479148[/snapback]
Good grief !!

She is the female equivalent of Mortonjag, laugh.gif Spurtle!
mortonjag 2008-07-17 20:22:33
QUOTE(big B @ Jul 17 2008, 08:13 PM) [snapback]479169[/snapback]
Apart from a goalkeeper do you think Morton will make anymore signings or are the guys that played against Hartlepool on Tuesday just there to make up the numbers to cover for the injuries?

I'm reading a bit into the planned closed door match with the Huns (and possibly yesterday's too).

I think the begging bowl may be out for further loans, and it's NOT the way forward IMO.
mortonjag 2008-07-17 20:29:04
QUOTE(MORTON1985 @ Jul 17 2008, 08:11 PM) [snapback]479168[/snapback]
about 20 police motors on angus road in larkfield all sealed off about 100 spectators watchin dont know what happen rumour going about someone tried to stab a police but not sure on that , police are still there but saw one man going away in back of police motor and 2 ambulances at the scene and arm response were present

BIRCH THE WEE C*NT
mortonjag 2008-07-17 20:31:39
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 17 2008, 08:19 PM) [snapback]479177[/snapback]
Why is that ? Is it because both of you have red bikini's ?

Mortonjag is a sexy geranium Adonis.
mortonjag 2008-07-17 20:38:15
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jul 17 2008, 01:13 PM) [snapback]478832[/snapback]
clootie dumplin (with money in it)
tablet
stovies

Canny beat them-well eeksy peeksy with mince and doughballs! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 20:53:39
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jul 17 2008, 08:20 PM) [snapback]479182[/snapback]
As far as I can see, that IS what he's being slated for.
As for ability, I couldn't really care less how much he has. Ronaldinho has more of it than any other player in the world, but it didn't stop him getting booted out of the team, and latterly club, when he decided he couldn't be arsed playing football anymore. Ability means bugger all if it isn't being deployed on the pitch every week.

CORRECT!

Now check back the posts-his ABILITY is being regularly slated-that's ALL I object to.

I agree you are only as good as your last game which makes Jimbo and Kev put together worth about five bob.
mortonjag 2008-07-17 20:57:52
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 17 2008, 08:33 PM) [snapback]479201[/snapback]
Aye, indeed.

Just shows what a fud he is.

Talking of FUDS Willy Man-over 75% of posters polled total confidence in JM's ability no time ago!

FUDS and FUDS eh? bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 21:02:59
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 17 2008, 08:58 PM) [snapback]479233[/snapback]
Poor Jag and his hairy friends sad.gif

He was merely sticking it up you, sticking up for you and you call him decrepit.

The Jag and his hairy friends are well respected by many on this board.

Clearly I did not inform you of my orchidectomy!
mortonjag 2008-07-17 21:07:01
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 17 2008, 08:32 PM) [snapback]479199[/snapback]
Inoccent until proved guilty ph34r.gif

BIRCH THE CU*T


QUOTE(IainMorton @ Jul 17 2008, 08:46 PM) [snapback]479218[/snapback]
This place is brilliant sometimes, the faintest sound of a siren and there is a thread on it! I saw two fire engines today in Glasgow just up from where I stay, anyone know what happened? ph34r.gif

happy.gif

Iain-this Sunday-Shawbridge St-high flats coming down-well worth a look! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 21:12:21
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Jul 17 2008, 08:54 PM) [snapback]479230[/snapback]
Both, I'm happy with the females thank you biggrin.gif Never had an inclination to engage with another c**k ohmy.gif

Edit to make sure it was c**k and not c()nt due to the sweary filter

So you've absolutely no desire to shag a genetically bald hedgehog?
mortonjag 2008-07-17 21:19:25
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 17 2008, 09:12 PM) [snapback]479247[/snapback]
I'm SOOOO disappointed in you Mr Jag sad.gif

Most weddings are attended by folk who don't know the majority of the folk at them.

Rather than look at the negative side of things why don't you look at it in a more positive light....

Spending a bit of quality time with your partner and making her feel proud she has someone as handsome blush.gif
as yourself as a partner.
DID I JUST TALK THE BIGGEST LOAD OF s***E EVER THERE unsure.gif

Well you've seen Mortonjag's avatar!

Why young women, men, hedgehogs, sheep, and hamsters are falling over each other in the rush to sook his willy is truly a mystery, but it's a strange old world!
mortonjag 2008-07-17 21:21:43
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 17 2008, 09:15 PM) [snapback]479249[/snapback]
Aye but would you separate her pish flaps and stick wan up her unsure.gif

Not when he still has the fantasy about a threesome with wee Nickerless and Sir Cliff!
mortonjag 2008-07-17 21:31:06
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jul 17 2008, 09:21 PM) [snapback]479259[/snapback]
MJ -

The call for JM's head was anything but droning. More like full blooded war cries.

Are you quite a sanctimonious soul? dry.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

He is one arrogant c*nt-n'est ce pas!
mortonjag 2008-07-17 21:33:33
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Jul 17 2008, 09:23 PM) [snapback]479264[/snapback]
Exactly Toby. You would almost think they don't want people going to away games.....

I think you credit them with too much intelligence.
mortonjag 2008-07-17 21:35:23
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 17 2008, 09:25 PM) [snapback]479266[/snapback]
Thank God guys like ourselves were amongst the minority that could see the bigger picture without the blinkers on.

....but they did so graciously concede they were wrong!
mortonjag 2008-07-17 21:39:12
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jul 17 2008, 09:08 PM) [snapback]479242[/snapback]
i've only met a few, but then i go out my way not to meet people.

nae takers? ach well. still got one month to escape financial ruin. tell your poncey friends, people.

forza has been duly p.m'd!
mortonjag 2008-07-17 21:44:32
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 17 2008, 09:19 PM) [snapback]479257[/snapback]

Don't be a Silly Billy Willy man-I have-like Hitler-still one ball and it produces enough testosterone to make up for the effin cowshed.
Big Blue Eyes is a bonnie lass-don't you think?
mortonjag 2008-07-17 21:47:22
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jul 17 2008, 08:52 PM) [snapback]479225[/snapback]
Quality Tunes Boozy
U may like this one

or this one

Maybe this one
I love 90s Dance/Trance music , Im gonna have to do a 90s night in the club lol



QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jul 17 2008, 09:12 PM) [snapback]479245[/snapback]
QFX - Now yer talking lol

Ive DJ'd with them twice and both times it was a completley different group of people except the old guy on the Keyboard , Kirk I think his name was . He was the writer/producer and use to tour with different people who mimed/danced to the songs lol

Easy money if you can get it

TUNE



QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jul 17 2008, 09:26 PM) [snapback]479267[/snapback]
K KLASS are awsome live we had them in December , What a voice that girl has

Another good act live was N Trance , Kelly L'Orena has an amazingly powerful voice

She sang Set You Free right in front of me . I had goosebumps was amazing
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mortonjag 2008-07-17 21:50:29
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Jul 17 2008, 09:35 PM) [snapback]479278[/snapback]
Maybe it's because our inspirational leader is going senile wink.gif

MAYBE-you appear to be the master of understatement! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 21:55:20
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Jul 17 2008, 09:09 PM) [snapback]479244[/snapback]
I know, I can see the flats from my front door so shall be watching!

We can see from our lounge window-the Monkey is rushing back from his graduation to take it in.
mortonjag 2008-07-17 22:03:13
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jul 17 2008, 09:55 PM) [snapback]479298[/snapback]
David Edwards, I have to agree with you about Casablanca. The Marseillaise scene is I think the most stirring movie scene ever.

I also voted SNP, and in fact I'm a member of the party. I don't agree with all the policies but I do want independence and frankly only the SNP can deliver that. After independence we can argue over what direction we take. Personally I'm slightly left of centre with a broad bandwidth on some issues.

That's the in phrase since New labour! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 22:05:53
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jul 17 2008, 09:49 PM) [snapback]479291[/snapback]
Backs in goal if you had one nominated goalie cum defender. Otherwise it was just nearest in.

Bloody hell-I've not heard that in almost fifty years-but that WAS it!
mortonjag 2008-07-17 22:08:16
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jul 17 2008, 10:00 PM) [snapback]479300[/snapback]
New series on Virgin 1 Now

mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-17 22:10:54
QUOTE(Scott_Gillan @ Jul 17 2008, 09:53 PM) [snapback]479296[/snapback]
Explain ?

................... huh.gif sorry Scotty-I'm an old man-I just assumed that all those people are very famous.

Are you now going to disappoint me?
mortonjag 2008-07-17 22:15:44
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 17 2008, 10:07 PM) [snapback]479307[/snapback]
Watched the whole episode unfold, although was it was a potentially serious incident it was humorous at times. The lad involved must have been around 17-18 yrs old and had armed himself with 2 rather large knifes but judging by the amount of police, armed response, ambulance and fire brigades there you would have been forgiven if you thought it was Tricks who a nuke weapon looking for Boozehound.

Mental Health Act?
mortonjag 2008-07-17 22:17:53 What does this raspberry cone guy do do enthuse so many?
mortonjag 2008-07-17 22:23:42
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 17 2008, 09:48 PM) [snapback]479290[/snapback]
The thing is, Sir Cliff would get more exited with a hardon about you in a bikini than he would this..

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDHe IS good at sooking knobs though.
mortonjag 2008-07-17 22:30:06
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 17 2008, 10:23 PM) [snapback]479330[/snapback]
I'm very left of centre with a broad beltwidth. laugh.gif

I'm a universal voter-IF I voted.

It never fails to amaze me that obviously intelligent folk pledge their allegiance to a mythical political position.

Is this a KUDOS thing?
mortonjag 2008-07-17 22:35:56
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Jul 17 2008, 10:27 PM) [snapback]479334[/snapback]
Another fatal knife attack in London tonight. Birch the b*****ds.

It DOES appear to be an epidemic. Young people are so impressionable-they will stop at nothing to be 'in with the in crowd'.

A couple of well publicised public birchings is required NOW.
mortonjag 2008-07-17 22:42:54
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Jul 17 2008, 10:35 PM) [snapback]479338[/snapback]
Nearies it was and always should be

For you kids perhaps!
mortonjag 2008-07-17 22:47:34
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 17 2008, 10:30 PM) [snapback]479336[/snapback]
Words and music. Lyrical genius coupled with melodic refrains that stick in your memory. All together with one great voice.

Shoogly?
mortonjag 2008-07-17 22:50:31
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 17 2008, 10:38 PM) [snapback]479340[/snapback]
no, misuse of drugs act more like. laugh.gif

cause and effect!
mortonjag 2008-07-17 22:56:51
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Jul 17 2008, 10:32 PM) [snapback]479337[/snapback]
Not even when I get to your age in about 40 years laugh.gif

Ah-the innocence of youth!
mortonjag 2008-07-17 23:00:50
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 17 2008, 10:48 PM) [snapback]479350[/snapback]
That's my dogs name.

Mine's 'CROUCH''
mortonjag 2008-07-17 23:06:32
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 17 2008, 10:49 PM) [snapback]479352[/snapback]
Ok Mentaljag. I'll own up. I'm only in it for the glory, not forgetting the money of course. biggrin.gif
I don't think I've ever 'pledged' allegiance to anyone or anything, not even Morton. I'll admit to having socialist politics and being a Morton fan for 'quite some time' now. I guess I'm just a sucker for lost causes. Whether I will be the same tomorrow, well as Bogey said in Casablanca: 'I don't make plans that far ahead'.

Mr Edwards-you are a good man I believe. Unfortunately we live in a bad society.
mortonjag 2008-07-17 23:11:01
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 17 2008, 10:58 PM) [snapback]479366[/snapback]
Fair play Jag, when I'm 86 I'd love to be riding a 57 year old. I kinda idolise you. Not really, but you get the idea.

EXACTLY!
mortonjag 2008-07-18 07:01:17


John Mason summed up the importance of the Glasgow East by-election to the Scottish National Party like this: "If we can take this seat, we can do anything."

It is actually remarkable that this is seen as a two-horse race at all. No matter the circumstances that brought the by-election about, or the fiasco that was Labour's initial selection process, or the economic storms besetting the government at Westminster, or the fact there has been an SNP Government at Holyrood for a year without the sky falling in, Glasgow East should be a canter for Labour.

Instead, it remains a close call. Labour are still favourites but it is all to play for with a week to go. However, this SNP strength in Labour's heartland did not just come out of the blue.

"There are certain parallels with January 1998," recalls Mr Mason. "The Labour councillor for Garrowhill had died and the government was in trouble over cutting Disability Benefit. It was really the first wave of disillusion with Tony Blair.
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"When I won the seat, Labour thought it was just a blip and that the seat would return to them, but I'm now the longest-serving SNP councillor in Glasgow."

In a decade that "blip" has seen Mr Mason reach the point where last May he gained 3199 first-preference votes. No other councillor of any party in the entire city reached 3000. The mould was not just broken, it was destroyed, and Mr Mason found himself leader of a 22-strong group, a real SNP opposition for Labour in the City Chambers for the first time, with representation across every ward in the city.

"A lot about the SNP is building up credibility. That's what the Scottish Government has been doing and that's what we are doing at council level," he said.

Credibility. It is a word Mr Mason returns to frequently as we sit in a coffee shop in Baillieston Main Street. The candidate has been categorised as solid, even stolid, lacking the kind of charisma and pizzaz usually seen as vital for a by-election contender, especially one looking to create a major upset.

Well, he is what he is: a 51-year-old accountant, unmarried, and active in his local Baptist church, where one of his fellow members of the congregation is Bob Holman, the retired social policy professor, Easterhouse community activist and lifelong Labour man.

Mr Mason is originally from Rutherglen but has lived in the East End for 18 years. After Glasgow University he qualified as a chartered accountant, worked for one of the big accountancy firms, then took his skills to a faith-based charity in London before doing aid work in Nepal for three years in the mid-eighties. Returning to Glasgow, he began working in the housing association sector.

"I would describe myself as left of centre," he says. "I have a fundamental position about all people being of equal value and deserving to be treated properly. I would like to see more fairness across society," he said, contrasting, as he often does, those well-off and able to eat out regularly, with those who have to shop around for the cheapest loaf. "I am comfortable in that I don't see a conflict between my faith and being involved in politics."

So why have the SNP become credible in a constituency such as Glasgow East? "I think there is simply a feeling Labour have taken people for granted here. They don't think they have to work for the vote. That's also why some people don't want to vote at all, and we have to overcome that. I am campaigning primarily on prices. Self-evidently that is seen at the petrol pump but it's much more than that. It's also fuel poverty, particularly for the elderly as bills go up, and about the way fuel prices feed into the cost of food for ordinary families."

If that sounds pretty close to the old SNP mantra, "It's Scotland's Oil" then Mason does not demur. If he talks up his belief in independence, he knows he will be painted a "hardliner". If he concentrates on other issues, such as replacing the council tax or tackling knife crime, he knows he will be accused of "stealth" and trying to get independence by the back door. He seems more wryly amused than upset by this.

"This campaign is good fun," he said. "It's a privilege. People in the SNP dream of being in a winnable seat in a by-election. I keep having to pinch myself. It seems surreal but this is a real competition."




Sir Scottish Cliff Spurtle? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-18 07:10:42
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 18 2008, 06:20 AM) [snapback]479512[/snapback]
offtopic.gif rolleyes.gif wink.gif tongue.gif

ph34r.gif

I have a son called Graham-but that's his Christian name and he's not a footballer or a fud.

Brian was a snail in the Magic Roundabout, or was he Bryan?

Billy Graham was an American evangelist.

Graham's dairies are an independent coo milking company.

Bryan is a nice wee Mod. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-18 07:17:42
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 18 2008, 02:04 AM) [snapback]479473[/snapback]
f*** you dickcheese. Yer still awrite though. c***o.

Count David Edwards hound-your spelling's getting worse. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-18 07:22:07
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 17 2008, 11:27 PM) [snapback]479398[/snapback]
Good man? Not so sure about that. But you know the saying about what it takes for evil to triumph. We should all try and do our bit, if we can.

Your avatar has an ectopic umbilicus.
mortonjag 2008-07-18 07:23:50
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 18 2008, 01:14 AM) [snapback]479449[/snapback]
When she's girating on me and looking into my eyes, AYE.

She claims to be a model (of sorts).

Should Shoogly know this?
mortonjag 2008-07-18 07:27:09
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 18 2008, 01:20 AM) [snapback]479452[/snapback]
Don't be so stupid the current system is working.

HUMAN RIGHTS YA BASSA !!! HUMAN RIGHTS YA BASSA !!! HUMAN RIGHTS YA BASSA !!!

What's wrong with carrying a knife ??
It wasn't my fault, it was his fault he jumped on my knife, which I require to carry for protection.

....as I was sharpening my pencil!
mortonjag 2008-07-18 07:37:52
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 17 2008, 08:33 PM) [snapback]479200[/snapback]
so when you you like to meet wink.gif

I didn't agree to meet-you misunderstood-I took you up on your offer to answer questions/suggestions-that was all! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-18 07:45:55 The only creative midfielder left is persona non grata.
mortonjag 2008-07-18 07:50:57
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 18 2008, 07:45 AM) [snapback]479529[/snapback]
Got to agree with that.

Just as bad as drinking a white wine spritzer, now that is just gay, watered down wine...YUCK
But back to the question in this thread, yes I drink red wine(and white). Am I a poufe, well I'll let you lot worry about that. Red wine is good for you(and its stronger rolleyes.gif ). A glass a day is recomended for all over 40's I read somewhere, am sure the Doc can back that up unsure.gif

That is quite correct Sean-ONE normal sized glass of red wine per day and NO other alcohol at all! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-18 08:32:15
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Jul 18 2008, 08:03 AM) [snapback]479532[/snapback]
Anyone see a couple of riot vans charge by west station area last night? I was walking to the spar on south street at around 8pm when i seen em.

Just thought id be nosey n see if anything exciting was happenin happy.gif

Doesn't Willy Man inhabit that area?
mortonjag 2008-07-18 08:36:12
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 18 2008, 08:05 AM) [snapback]479533[/snapback]
You had to go and spoil it all didn't you rolleyes.gif

Well they also say shagging is good for you, but they're less specific about colour size and frequency!
mortonjag 2008-07-18 08:42:03
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 18 2008, 08:36 AM) [snapback]479543[/snapback]
So, to sum up, he's a bible bashing baptist bean counter. That doesn't necesssarily mean he's a bad person though. Boring, certainly, but not bad. laugh.gif I hope he wins.

Sounds like an anally retentive POUFFE or is that tottie logical-AND a Holy Willie-come to think of it, that may be also.
mortonjag 2008-07-18 10:42:29
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jul 18 2008, 10:36 AM) [snapback]479606[/snapback]
anticipates now customary MortonJag post slating DDFR dry.gif

ph34r.gif


Selling sweeties is like taking candy from a baby.
mortonjag 2008-07-18 10:46:50
QUOTE(irvineTON @ Jul 18 2008, 09:39 AM) [snapback]479562[/snapback]
I'm surprised Shimminn hasn't been mentioned. Thought he looked better than any of the other 3 trialists we are looking to sign!!
I'm gettin a tad anxious at the news filtering out, as I honestly don't think any of these guys mentioned are of a standard that I was hoping for.

Even if he signs all bloody four we still won't have any creativity in midfield and nobody to put regular crosses over.

The only one who impressed me a bit was the big pony tailed centre back.

No doubt we'll get a victory at Dumbarton tonight, and it will be back to the 'who's like us' slevering sh*t.
mortonjag 2008-07-18 10:50:46 Forgetting the personality bit just for a moment, Jamie is our only creative midfielder left.

Midge went because he was thoroughly sickened by the set up, and Stevenson's form disappeared for the same reason.

I HOPE he stays, but only if DI can get him back to potential.
mortonjag 2008-07-18 10:55:12
QUOTE(jpmil @ Jul 18 2008, 10:32 AM) [snapback]479602[/snapback]
With regards to Jamie, I thought that the problem was with JM but if DI has a problem with JS then maybe the problem has been JS all the time.

IS THERE still a problem. He hasn't figured much so far, but DI's been playing about with (pretty useless) trialists. Maybe Jamie will play a blinder tonight!
mortonjag 2008-07-18 10:59:19
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Jul 18 2008, 10:33 AM) [snapback]479603[/snapback]
A and B are correct however C is wrong I only said I hadn't been to many last season due to work. As for my umbrella, I'll bring that along tomorrow and give you a good battering Mr Turnbull.

I am of course only angry and bitter because I am fat and old and your team is so young and fit. laugh.gif

Old age doesn't cause anger and bitterness.
mortonjag 2008-07-18 11:00:55 Trials for under 17's is a waste of time.

BIRCH THEM.
mortonjag 2008-07-18 11:09:38
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jul 18 2008, 10:46 AM) [snapback]479615[/snapback]
so do you still think that DDFR is skint MJ? wink.gif

He's skint in terms of Greenock Morton-does the evidence suggest otherwise? laugh.gif

'77 year old man makes profit of £1.6 million' is hardly a banner headline those days. My son's making more money.

Shoogly's mark up, BTW is under 10%!

I've never believed he was personally skint, but bear in mind he's never spent a personal penny on our Club and never will, as he's as tight as the proverbial badger's arse.

(which IS tight as I can confirm from personal experience). smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-18 11:13:28
QUOTE(rex manning @ Jul 18 2008, 11:02 AM) [snapback]479631[/snapback]
Instead of lacking in midfield i think we have too much going on. Too many muppets not really knowing what their job is, we are far too cluttered, and noone seems to be able to make space to pass the ball. I actually quite like what i;ve seen of Masterton, and for me he could be a very good supporting midfielder as long as big Erik is keeping the door closed behind him. He seems to be able to pick a pass, has a good shot on him and did on a few occasions run beyond the forwards. I'd personally prefer to see us playing a 4-4-2. Although that will involve putting Davie and Alex in at fullback. Buy us some fullbacks Irons!

Cos' SHOOGLY'S LOADED
mortonjag 2008-07-18 11:20:48
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jul 18 2008, 10:00 AM) [snapback]479579[/snapback]
I'm always misunderstanding what the word 'sure' means as well laugh.gif

You don't seem to be very good at the face to face stuff MJ.

you can find out anything i know, its not cloak and dagger we are just being professional in our dealings, and havent decided if we will make the info free for all until we get an answer.

ask me anything regarding the trust and i will give you and answer with in reason biggrin.gif i'm sure if you wanted to meet us and discuss your views on the trust and morton we would welcome it, you can even minute it and post it here






To which I replied 'sure' and posted my points. What would be gained from a 'face to face' meeting.

Indeed, if the recent AGM's anything to go on, probably only Bryan and Sean would turn up! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-18 11:25:35
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jul 18 2008, 10:36 AM) [snapback]479605[/snapback]
yeah fair do's, there are pretentions people who live around the area i suppose. i'm just not one of them. regarding the price, i suppose it depends on what the flat is like. its in a decent area and looks pretty good, but recently i have started to see some flats around the west end dropping in price significantly. a couple of weeks ago i was looking at a massive 2 bedroom flat on Ruthven St in Dowanhill (which can be seen in the Avril Paton painting "bedsits"). Not too long ago, it wouldnt have been far offf a 1/4 mil, but now it is on the market for £139K. Unbelievable how much prices are starting to drop, and i don't think it has bottomed out yet.

Oh dear-looks like Manky's after dark sojourns in the park may not be over yet! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-18 11:30:00
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 18 2008, 09:10 AM) [snapback]479550[/snapback]
Yours may be tautological and Holy Willie may be oxymoronic.

Holy Willies are MORONS?

QUOTE(Alibi @ Jul 18 2008, 09:56 AM) [snapback]479575[/snapback]
MJ, you really are a bit of an intolerant individual, aren't you? No wonder nobody on this board seems to like you much. You need to lighten up a bit and get over your unrequited love for Alex Salmond.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif Perhaps, though I don't hate them effin Inglish!

QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 18 2008, 09:58 AM) [snapback]479577[/snapback]
Can you be sure that it's unrequited? happy.gif

Mentaljag, Alibi just called you a

poove.

I'm quite happy to be called anything except a liar! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-18 11:42:04
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jul 18 2008, 10:15 AM) [snapback]479591[/snapback]
1. yes..because although were told the class war is over, it's not, and they destroyed our unions etc.. everything the 'working class' man had to use to help himself is now gone.....

2. how the f*** can you remain impartial when someone has just killed somebody else ! ! .. thats the prblem with your lords and lady's, theyre soooo far removed from the REAL society that they DO NOT represent what we want as justice, and if you think that 8 years is a fair sentance for murder then you need to really have a serious look at yourself, try and put yourself in the shoes of a victims family... 8,10,15 years..it's a drop in the ocean for these guys, we all KNOW they will do FAR less than the sentance handed out..... life should mean LIFE.... and again BIRCH THE KNIFE CARRYING WEE NED c***S...

I think you're being a wee bit hard on the Justiciary 'warrior'. They don't make up the rules which apply to sentencing, and if your assertion that they're upper class and detached is true, I'd guess they'd happily birch the wee c*nts and let folk rot in jail.

So far as I can see, our politicians must take the blame fairly and squarely.

What is BAWHEID doing about knife crime right now-indeed does HE really give a f*ck?

With his massive salary and pretentious Holyrood lifestyle I'd suggest that he's FAR more detached from common folk than those who encounter them in court on a daily basis. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-18 11:46:13
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jul 18 2008, 10:17 AM) [snapback]479595[/snapback]
prisoners asked for salt on their fish and chips and didnt get any...heard they were going back to remedy this...

No vinegar then?
mortonjag 2008-07-18 11:49:12
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Jul 18 2008, 10:59 AM) [snapback]479627[/snapback]
TEENAGER Charged Following Incident -- A 17-YEAR-old man is expected to appear at Greenock Sheriff Court today charged with alleged breach of the peace, reckless conduct and vandalism following an incident at a house in Angus Road, Greenock. He was arrested following an operation involving a number of officers over a couple of hours last night.

http://www.inverclydenow.com/news-detail4.asp?ID=462

BIRCH THE WEE C*NT
mortonjag 2008-07-18 11:52:19
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Jul 18 2008, 11:46 AM) [snapback]479652[/snapback]
A rare comment from the Jag there talking about the fantastic wealth of his happy family. Bill Gates makes more money as well but he doesn't own Morton.

What an intelligent and informative comment.
mortonjag 2008-07-18 11:55:12
QUOTE(Speedy7 @ Jul 18 2008, 11:38 AM) [snapback]479650[/snapback]
That is a Poor Show from the the club as they told all the current U17 they would have a deal next season at the meeting so Irons & Collins & rest of the back room team are liars .They have hung the lads out to Dry most of the other Clubs have there full coater so most of the boys will strugle to find a new senior club a belive a dew of the better players have moved to other clubs sad.gif

Could it be that the management team was misled about the availability of cash?
mortonjag 2008-07-18 11:57:20
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jul 18 2008, 11:53 AM) [snapback]479659[/snapback]
mason came across well, i thought, seems honest enough if a little taken aback by his moment in the spotlight. curran is something of a monster, if im honest, unpleasant woman

Curran is a KEECH-plain and simple.
mortonjag 2008-07-18 12:00:26
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jul 18 2008, 11:55 AM) [snapback]479661[/snapback]
how long have you not voted mortonjag, and what would you do if voting was madde compulsory, as it is in australia

I haven't voted for a very long time-but I'd STILL vote if I found a candidate worthy of my support.

If they ever try to MAKE me vote I will refuse and take the consequences. That will be the day democracy dies.
mortonjag 2008-07-18 12:02:36
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jul 18 2008, 11:48 AM) [snapback]479654[/snapback]
whats your beef with salmond?



He's a power hungry pragmatic buffoon.
mortonjag 2008-07-18 12:05:11
QUOTE(suda @ Jul 18 2008, 11:57 AM) [snapback]479664[/snapback]
Tell your son to stick his money where your mouth is then



Don't be daft-he has no interest in football. Alistair Donald's the man you need to speak to-IF he's 'in the country'.
mortonjag 2008-07-18 12:17:51
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jul 18 2008, 12:02 PM) [snapback]479667[/snapback]
no just salt.... that's what I heard anyway

Maybe they'll get vinegar instead next time.
mortonjag 2008-07-18 12:25:40
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Jul 18 2008, 12:06 PM) [snapback]479671[/snapback]
didn't you make a career out of getting young men to undress leaving them exposed and vulnerable then probe them.

morton's very own max mosley

You obviously remember me with affection.
mortonjag 2008-07-18 12:27:36
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jul 18 2008, 12:10 PM) [snapback]479673[/snapback]
remind you of anyone?
is mortonjag salmond. didnt know salmond liked young lads as much as you do thoughMJ

Pink botty time for you, you scamp.
mortonjag 2008-07-18 12:34:18
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 18 2008, 12:19 PM) [snapback]479680[/snapback]
Your son is a Pouffe?!?! huh.gif huh.gif huh.gif

Right you-I've had more than enough of your impertinence-you can call Mortonjag anything you like but how very DARE you call my boy's sexuality in question?

This matter will not be resolved till you've had your thoroughly deserved automatic five day ban by the BIG MOD----AND we have sorted things out face to face. I will not-I REPEAT-WILL NOT allow anyone to question my son, even though he takes it up the arse with relish every Saturday in Kelvingrove Park.

He didn't get rich just sitting on it! mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-18 12:37:09
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 18 2008, 12:22 PM) [snapback]479684[/snapback]
where is your evidence? He wanted to leave to progress his career as he'd been at Morton 5 years and went a club who are favourites to win the league. Wouldn't so much say that its the set up he didn't like, just that he wants to play at a higher level of football.

Mortonjag was privy to certain information. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-18 12:41:52
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 18 2008, 12:37 PM) [snapback]479698[/snapback]
...but I called him one of these

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mortonjag 2008-07-18 12:45:48
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 18 2008, 12:18 PM) [snapback]479678[/snapback]
£1.6 million as the other thread says wink.gif

A mere bagatelle in terms of reaching the SPL.

QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 18 2008, 12:19 PM) [snapback]479681[/snapback]
we haven't been playing an attacking midfield out the three in pre-season and with Mcalister's reluctance to get forward and Kev's willingnes but poor success rate to get forward, we've had no cutting edge attack wise at all with our three holding midfielders sitting in the middle of the park....usually giving the ball away.

Jenkins you'd imagine would slip in there, but for now i wouldnt be upset if Weatherson got a shot there and failing that give Stevenson a try.

....or we could/should get rid of our two 'wingers' and get wingers.
mortonjag 2008-07-18 12:55:05
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jul 18 2008, 11:19 AM) [snapback]479638[/snapback]
I hear you brother. I finished work at 19:30 last night, approx 35 hours after I'd first started. And we're still no closer to resolving the issues that have plagued us since tickets went on sale at the start of June (when we had to close for a week because we were properly f***ed). Not great for the world's largest arts festival, and it's doing my f***ing head in, especially as I'm being paid peanuts.

The people in charge are idiots. mad.gif

It's surely a strange phenomenon, but those days sh*te does seem always to rise to the top. Talking a good game with plenty of 'in expressions', wearing the right clothes, driving the right car-that and knowing and if necessary shagging the right people.

I'd BIRCH the b*****ds. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-18 13:03:42
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 18 2008, 12:21 PM) [snapback]479683[/snapback]
I always miss these bits seeing as I eff off as soon as I have piped in the happy couple to the top table.

But it always amuses me just how awful the bridesmaids look in comparison with the bride. Why are they always given dresses to wear that - no matter how skinny - make it look like they have humongous amounts of back fat?!

You'll just have to stop piping at pigs' weddings.
mortonjag 2008-07-18 13:08:24
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 18 2008, 01:00 PM) [snapback]479707[/snapback]
I thought it was a good likeness!!!!

And bring him on...will he still have his robe on? Oh and why wasn't Daddy there? huh.gif



Because Daddy can't stand effin pomp and ceremony-so much so, that Daddy refused to have a graduation 'fotie took' on two separate occasions!

I believe the boys are planning to show off the regalia soon! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-18 13:17:29
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jul 18 2008, 12:06 PM) [snapback]479672[/snapback]
Maybe I'm just a bit old fashioned but I would have thought that if you genuinely wanted a dialogue with the trust to discuss points of concern it would be better to do so face to face rather than depend on the stilted medium of a messageboard.

Then again perhaps you don't feel comfortable talking directly to people and prefer the relative distance of the net.

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I'm actually a very good listener Tomtom-G.P., qualified Counsellor etc., etc., though I dislike public speaking. laugh.gif

QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 18 2008, 12:51 PM) [snapback]479703[/snapback]
im sure at least me, stuart, sean, jim and danny would turn up, talking to us 'face to face' will achive a lot.

Bryan-I actually DID misinterpret your initial comment. I'm sure that if we met, you'd all be the soul of courtesy, but I don't REALLY think Mortonjag is capable of shaking the Establishment at the Trust any more than you and a few others are.

Mind you, you could maybe make use of Fing's services for a relatively moderate fee!
mortonjag 2008-07-18 13:42:09
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 18 2008, 01:24 PM) [snapback]479720[/snapback]
the trust board are only to happy to meet you or anyone that wants to discuss the trust and its functions and suggesting things we can do. the offer is open and i think it would be good to talk.

I'll have a think, and discuss it with the boys when they're back! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-18 13:52:56
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jul 18 2008, 01:15 PM) [snapback]479713[/snapback]
Totally agree with MJ on this one. I hate weddings and all the fake s***e that goes with them. Give me a good funeral any day for entertainment.

Now you're talking-doctors, as you know, are renowned for being able to bury their mistakes.

I've had many a good belly laugh at a funforall. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-18 13:57:24
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jul 18 2008, 01:51 PM) [snapback]479734[/snapback]
Here - rule 4 of the JVTCF ya bawbag !!!!!

TonInDublin

ps can I just remind you that you were the very first person to ever start a "my neighbours are shagging thread" - weekly !

Given the price of those flats, I feel it should have been-'My neighbours are making love'.
mortonjag 2008-07-18 14:34:15
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 18 2008, 02:10 PM) [snapback]479739[/snapback]
Aye, and they're called Farquahar and Alastair. happy.gif

....and can be seen riding the tandem to Queen Margaret Drive of any productive morning!
mortonjag 2008-07-18 14:41:31
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 18 2008, 02:27 PM) [snapback]479744[/snapback]
Fascist policies - here was me thinking both corporal and capital punishment were particularly right wing, fascistic soultions to crime.
We have free and fair elections, by which the government was given a mandate to privatise as it wished and ignore fuel protests until the next election.
Outside politics employment is vastly meritocratic, so in reality any one of us had/has the potential to become one of these upper class judges detached from reality.
I fail to see your point.

As the blind stabee exclaimed to the ned.
mortonjag 2008-07-18 14:46:42
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 18 2008, 02:42 PM) [snapback]479753[/snapback]
Actually many communist dictatorships absorb fascistic tendencies - see Stalin as a perfect example.
But one wouldn't argue that he wasn't a communist.
I specifically termed it fascistic.
I agree with independence, but that appears to be it with regards to your points. sleep.gif

HEY-you're starting to SPARROT again!

When do you start your politics/history degree at the reasonably proper University?
mortonjag 2008-07-18 14:53:28
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 18 2008, 01:47 AM) [snapback]479466[/snapback]
She fairly packs a good muscle so one reckons she's given a good few hand or blow jobs in her time rolleyes.gif

She does have rather handsome biceps though her lips are out of the picture.
mortonjag 2008-07-18 14:56:23
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 18 2008, 02:51 PM) [snapback]479757[/snapback]
September my love.

laugh.gif I shall post a warning in the union!
mortonjag 2008-07-18 14:59:47 I don't often frequent pubs those days, though I did when I lived in Partick. The Rosevale was a rather despicable place-the beer was fine, but it was always full of drunken Huns.
mortonjag 2008-07-18 15:16:08 Just over four hours to go and no apparent interest in tonight's game. It's really very sad that there appears very little to get excited about at the moment-and that ain't just Mortonjag having his usual moan-it's clearly how folk are reacting to our brand new squad of 'quality players'.

David Irons was hugely appreciated for the stirring end to the season, and by all accounts he has revolutionised the training regime, but his signing policies appear slightly bizarre to say the least. OK-I know there's little cash, but why take on yet another striker when we still have no full backs, no wingers, and one goalie?

Who is going to supply our strikers? Who is going to deal with opposing wingers (look at the second goal on Tuesday)? Is Colin Stewart really the answer-he looks no better to me than McGurn.

Anyway-tonight's prediction-0-3 (LEAFY 2/Jamie 1).
mortonjag 2008-07-18 15:24:40
QUOTE(Malt @ Jul 18 2008, 03:20 PM) [snapback]479767[/snapback]
He has already stated he will sign another goal keeper. We have a left and right back on trial with a view to signing. It is pre-season we aint going to go into games like it is a league match or cup final.

Let the guy do his job and judge him at end of season.

Too many Championship Manager/Football Manager creeps on this board who thinks they could do a better job with no experience of football management.

EXACTLY what I was told a year ago for daring to criticise JM! laugh.gif

I've already predicted we'll finish fifth. I think DI is a big improvement on the last manager. I will judge him as we go along-thank you very much.
mortonjag 2008-07-19 07:30:36
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 18 2008, 05:27 PM) [snapback]479821[/snapback]
I think you will find that the expression you need to use is Net Profit! A mark up relates to the margin added to raw materials to arrive at selling price. Shops have mark ups. Manufacturers with any decent costing system use different measures.

His net profit at roughly 8.5% is pretty good as manufacturers go. Also bear in mind you are talking of the consolidated results of Golden Casket Group and so I assume that Morton's annual losses are incorporated in their net profit. Get rid of us and his profits from sweeties is probably in excess of £2m.

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The expression I used colloquially is one I've been acquainted with for many many years. I'm fully aware of the difference between a wholesale and retail price. I've repeatedly heard businessmen talk of 'mark up' in relation to net profit. 'Skin', is another term used to mean the same.

Anyway, £2m 'NET PROFIT' clearly isn't the kind of money that's going to move us forward. We desperately need inward investment, or SHOULD I say-we desperately need inward investment to be WELCOMED? ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-19 07:32:55
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jul 18 2008, 05:51 PM) [snapback]479828[/snapback]
Pity, could have won that one blush.gif

After last night, that post is even FUNNIER! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-19 07:39:41
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 18 2008, 08:04 PM) [snapback]479877[/snapback]
wasted at left wing back ph34r.gif

Jimbo is becoming a luxury we can't afford. At Dumbarton last night I kept looking for this £200,000 player everybody seems to see, and all I got was the usual boundless energy, the occasional flash of inspiration, and an extremely unpredictable final product. His game has stagnated for over two seasons.

It WOULD be a positive move to release him for-say £40,000, if we could get it. The boy could have a fresh start, and we could sign a left winger.
mortonjag 2008-07-19 07:50:30
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Jul 18 2008, 03:45 PM) [snapback]479781[/snapback]
I agree that Stevenson is about the only player capable of making a real matchwinning contribution in our squad at the moment. McAllister once every ten games can do that. Finlayson did it twice in the last two games of last season, but other than that he can rarely be relied on to be anything more than a solid hard-working winger. Paartalu and McGuffie don't really offer the kind of incisive passing required and Jenkins has hardly played for us. Masterton just might be the closest thing to Stevenson in terms of ability, but he has so far played a deeper role than Stevenson and thus can't influence as much in the final third.

Stevenson from what I am led to believe gets in a huff/down in the dumps if he is not playing and it would seem that he doesn't go the best way about proving to people that he deserves a chance and I'd be surprised if that changed this season. The fact that there are not clubs lining up to take him off our hands would suggest that his ability does not outweigh his attitude.

Millar did not leave because "he was thoroughly sicked by the set up;" he left because Morton didn't want to hold contract talks until February while St Johnstone offered him a good contract and the prospect to play at a better in the December/January. I think Millar was also a bit annoyed that other players had been tied up to longer deals before he had had talks which was not a good move from our hierarchy. In saying that, Millar had a mixed start to the season and had been injured for a while too. Millar did exceptionally well in the last 5 months of his contract and proved many people wrong by displaying true professionalism right up until the last game of the season and I hope he goes onto be a successful midfielder for St Johnstone.

Millar WAS thoroughly sick of the set up-note I have slightly rephrased to pander to your pedantry!

QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Jul 18 2008, 04:57 PM) [snapback]479810[/snapback]
where do you get this pish from, in the whole time he's been here I think I've seen him have about two good games.

Describing a player's ability and potential as distinct from his recent performance is not PISH, though some eejits clearly can't read, let alone understand plain English.

QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jul 18 2008, 05:45 PM) [snapback]479827[/snapback]
Jamie has gone to Alloa on loan. Deserved all he got - really bad attitude. wink.gif

Not like you to be a vituperative snake Smiffy! rolleyes.gif

mortonjag 2008-07-19 08:04:54
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Jul 18 2008, 05:56 PM) [snapback]479831[/snapback]
I hate all this speculation - does my head in.

lets see what happens when the season STARTS!

too many doom and gloom merchants - one of the reasons this board does not appeal to me so much these days.

Morton FC (a "wee team" the last time I checked) could do no better than DI and DC - we should be very happy we even have them in charge.

I just wish MJ et al would stop spreading doom and gloom before a meaningful ball is even kicked.

end of discussion for me.

And I just wish some folk would READ my posts-I've predicted 5th spot because I believe we'll be very hard to beat. That does not alter the fact that we have no creativity either from midfield, or from the wings, and that's a HUGE omission IMO.

Greenock Morton does not need to be a WEE team! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-19 08:10:25
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 16 2008, 10:43 AM) [snapback]478225[/snapback]
Was talking to my mate who is a Morton fan from Dumbarton and like he says Morton preseason prices don't exactly give you an urge to attend, If he and the missus came over last night with the kids it would have cost him £24, Friday night will cost him £12, Morton seem to have a habit of going in for the kill when they are dealing with their die hard type fans whom they know will buy merchandise and turn up even if its against the YAC.

I'm out over £50 already on last night's match plus the two at Cappielow (including petrol).

I would not have grudged a penny if I'd seen anything to get excited about.
mortonjag 2008-07-19 08:14:09
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jul 18 2008, 11:29 PM) [snapback]480002[/snapback]
McGuffie's goal tonight was a tap in after the Dumbarton keeper spilled a Masterton free kick.

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I KNOW that! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-19 08:17:49
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 18 2008, 09:22 PM) [snapback]479927[/snapback]
never met me then tongue.gif

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You actually drive your charger past me at half time almost every home game when you go for your 'wee wee'! I've often been tempted to say 'Hello' but I'm very reticent. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-19 08:23:34 Can anybody explain to me what the purpose of this drunken melee is?

Will money be raised for a good cause (i.e. Shoogly's big bag) or is it simply an attempt to spread love and affection?
mortonjag 2008-07-19 08:29:04
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Jul 19 2008, 02:02 AM) [snapback]480088[/snapback]
Simply to assist Muz in his quest for 8 pages of this s***.

*bump*

Additionally, so it doesn't appear I am needlessly bumping a thread.

Peter, by far the best all round football brain at the club. On a regular basis he sees the pass that those around him fail to see which is why I agree he should be deployed in behind the front two. If DI can get the boys in front of him to read Peter's game and/or Peter to read their game to a decent standard there are plenty of goals to be had with that setup.

Jamie, arguably the most technically gifted player in the squad, could and should be filling that role. His attitude however, stinks of 'Primadonna' and I'd hope someone at the club would be willing/able to give him the kick up the erse that he seems to deserve.

Sadly, I do not see either of them being giving the opportunity to play in an attacking midfield link up role, especially if Jamie has indeed packed up his sarong collection for Alloa. Whilst we no longer appear to be lightweight in midfield my biggest fear for the forthcoming season is where the creative spark will come from.

Indeed Gash-I can see us becoming very unpopular with opposing fans-folk hate playing a team full of positive negativity-we'll be hard to beat, and we'll produce pish poor attacking football.
mortonjag 2008-07-19 08:33:04
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Jul 19 2008, 02:32 AM) [snapback]480100[/snapback]
Oh I am broken hearted and a little disappointed you have decided to out us both by proudly announcing the pet names we hold for each other. I may just have to stroke se65ans thigh in work on Monday to relieve the tension.

I'd go stick my head in the oven, if gas prices weren't so feckin high.

WHY WON'T YOU RETURN MY PHONE CALLS ????

Sean works in the massage parlour--FFS he actually looks quite hetero!
mortonjag 2008-07-19 08:44:17
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 18 2008, 09:57 PM) [snapback]479943[/snapback]
I have a feeling Morton will announce the return of goalkeeper Lee Robinson sooner rather than later.

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QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jul 18 2008, 11:06 PM) [snapback]479978[/snapback]
I'd have Lee Robinson ahead of Colin Stewart any day of the week.

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I don't think Stewart's really been proven one way or the other. I would like him to wear football boots instead of those clown's shoes-his kicking would improve tremendously. They also make him look extremely gauche. He surely must have corns already.
mortonjag 2008-07-19 08:50:45 If Dumbarton had had any luck they could have scored three or four.

Is Irons just 'takin' the piss' with us?

mortonjag 2008-07-19 08:53:35
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jul 17 2008, 05:53 PM) [snapback]479082[/snapback]
BTW I'm truly hurt a senile old man that is on ignore (viewed the post as it was obvious you were responding to me) is calling me something not remotely offensive based on my user name on a message-board.

PS ViolaTon it is definitely on as the match is booked in as a friendly to be played as the Renfrewshire Cup final should both teams reach it.

Well you did get a bit huffy when I suggested you were brain damaged.
mortonjag 2008-07-19 09:01:28
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 19 2008, 08:55 AM) [snapback]480129[/snapback]
I can wake up at various times in the morning on any given day, and without the aid of any timepiece, I usually guess the time to within 30 mins of the actual time.

Is this weird or can most people do this ?

Spurtle-at last we have a common bond. I can wake up during the night and almost invariably 'guess' the time to within less than 15 minutes, and during the day, I don't really need to carry a watch. I don't know how common this is. What I HAVE noticed though, is that when I go on holiday to abnormal surroundings, I'm not nearly so accurate!
mortonjag 2008-07-19 09:44:37
QUOTE(centralTON @ Jul 19 2008, 09:28 AM) [snapback]480138[/snapback]
Ehrm!!! something like that. rolleyes.gif

BTW, you could still participate as the " Exiles " team doctor, I'm sure you would be welcomed with open arms.

I'd actually love to come, but the boys are due back from Oxford some time this afternoon. I gather Munx has found himself a girlfriend down there which is a wee bit alarming, but I'll keep everyone posted.

Anyway-back to the topic-nae money being raised for Shoogly's big bag=how much is it costing for the use of the facilities? dry.gif


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mortonjag 2008-07-19 10:19:19
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 19 2008, 09:59 AM) [snapback]480148[/snapback]
MJ, details can be found in this thread...somewhere rolleyes.gif

Oh-dear-then I will check when I have time!
mortonjag 2008-07-19 10:21:25
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 19 2008, 10:02 AM) [snapback]480151[/snapback]
Ouch.... laugh.gif

Suppose it as an easy mistake to make though... unsure.gif

I love Smiffy in the Beano.
mortonjag 2008-07-19 10:23:35
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 19 2008, 10:04 AM) [snapback]480152[/snapback]
Doesn't mean we'll have enough to pick up a consistent run of victories though. 36 draws does no one any good, and certainly doesn't get us 5th place wink.gif tongue.gif

Do you imagine we'll get 36 draws? I wonder what odds Mr Hill would give against that!
mortonjag 2008-07-19 10:25:43
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 19 2008, 10:07 AM) [snapback]480155[/snapback]
Can't for the life of me remember where the club were quoted, but I'm sure I read somewhere that this was the case. A lot of the players are on bigger salaries for the coming season and that has affected the transfer budget, not that it was huge to begin with.

Maybe they had to pay them more to fend of the hundreds of bids for their services from SPL clubs..
mortonjag 2008-07-19 10:33:38
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 19 2008, 09:53 AM) [snapback]480145[/snapback]
With Harding, Greacen, Walker and now McManus all injured Irons seems to be concentrating on signing defenders with his interest in Smith, Reid and Meynall. When the injuries clear up we are going to have a lot of defenders competing for three/four places.

I take it as a given that we will sign another goalkeeper but signing the three above might mean signing a boy rather than a serious keeper.

Meantime, we seem to be lacking a bit of creativity in midfield and already doubts are being expressed about our strikers. Personally, I am hopeful that Wake and Newby will come good but I'm not sure where the killer passes will come from unless a fully fit Jenkins can provide them.

It just seems to me that Irons is being forced to sign players to cover for injuries that, with a fully fit squad, he might have preferred midfielders and/or attackers. For me the squad is starting to look as unbalanced as it was this time last year, albeit in different areas.

We're clearly missing JM's naked table tennis training techniques!

The best form of defence is attack and if DI can't see that he's daft. We DESPERATELY need some creativity. Wakey, Newbs, LEAFY, and Spoonsy will score plenty among them if the supply's there.

If you were at Dumbarton last night, you might well have concluded that the opposition produced far better attacking football than we did. Had fortune smiled on them we could have been beaten. 5-0.

DI MUST see the bigger picture-full backs -aye-if they can overlap and get a cross in unlike the current offending 'wing backs'. Central defenders-NO WAY!
mortonjag 2008-07-19 10:41:56
QUOTE(Deego @ Jul 19 2008, 02:28 AM) [snapback]480098[/snapback]
Today I pished in a public toilet thingy again, pish against the wall effort. There was once again a pube floating around in my pish. Why is there always a pube in these things?

Buggs Bunny has a friend called Pubic Hare.
mortonjag 2008-07-19 10:50:55
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 18 2008, 06:20 PM) [snapback]479836[/snapback]
I agree that the Act of Settlement is unfair, although there is a small problem with repealing it, as the Prime Minister has
some form of appointage power over the Church of England, or is that the monarch?
Either way the day Harold Shipman is posthumously appointed as Archbishop of Canterbury, you'll know there's an inside man demolishing the Church from within.
Nationalism can be a dangerous contagion.

'Appointage' SPARROT-you're at it again!!!

I DO, however, like your use of 'Shipman' and 'contagion' in the same post-nice to keep things medical!

It's not your postings, or even (sometimes) your opinions which I find so irritating-it's your style. It just doesn't become a 17 year old child. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-19 10:58:58
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 19 2008, 10:47 AM) [snapback]480183[/snapback]
What's Harry got to do with it? tongue.gif

If I'd meant DR Harry Hill, I'd have said so Naitch. I like to get my facts right!
mortonjag 2008-07-19 11:17:42
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jul 19 2008, 10:57 AM) [snapback]480186[/snapback]
That would be Rae, managers have nothing to do with the financial aspect of contracts...or at least they're not supposed to!

If Rae isn't giving him more money to sign Alan Reid, possibly Dominic Shimmin and a decent goalkeeper, then it's a farce.

Hopefully Jamie goes to Alloa and they pay their fair share of his wages, and the Shire are paying Brian's wages.

Who else? Oh aye, Kieran, will anybody take that useless waste of space???

EDIT: Reid disappeared, even though I typed it... dry.gif

I noticed David McGregor in track suit at Dumbarton. Another lad who's surplus to requirements and still picking up a salary?

On the one hand we're told Rae wants rid of Stevenson, McAnespie, Graham, and McGregor, BEFORE money will be available for signings.

On the other there is talk of 33% wage rises, and we've already had CRAZY extensions to contracts for mediocre performers.

In his first 'Life on a Shoogly Peg' notes, The Chairman states (of Brian Reid) 'I had to sell him to Rangers for £250,000', but some years later I was overjoyed to bring him back'. Of Dean Keenan he opines-'Ayr were lucky to get the services of this promising young professional'. Talking of the Hartlepool game-'We will be ready for them-that's a promise'.


Is Shoogly verging on dementia?
mortonjag 2008-07-19 12:32:14
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 19 2008, 11:55 AM) [snapback]480210[/snapback]
Christ...imagine the field day the jag would have if we done something like that!!!! ph34r.gif

The Jag has no problem with a football club 'community' young man. What the Jag objects to is 'The Club' = Mr Rae.
mortonjag 2008-07-19 12:40:47
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 19 2008, 11:01 AM) [snapback]480190[/snapback]
You mean Dr Matthew Hall surely jaggy boy wink.gif

I meant he is not 'Mr'!

QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 19 2008, 11:04 AM) [snapback]480193[/snapback]
Over the last five seasons the average points for a fifth place finish is 51 and the highest has been 55. In the same five seasons, to finish 8th (taken as one point more than ninth place) the average is 36 with the highest being 41.

So, as you say, 36 draws does no one any good but we will in my opinion win more than we will lose just because we will be hard to beat but I think we will 'win ugly' a lot of the time rather than with any panache or style.

EXACTLY what I fear-I know many posters are more concerned about status than how it's achieved, but I prefer to see entertainment .

QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 19 2008, 11:59 AM) [snapback]480212[/snapback]
I thought TrumpingTon was being sarcastic. rolleyes.gif

So, I'd imagine, did he! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-19 12:47:48
QUOTE(irnbru @ Jul 19 2008, 11:52 AM) [snapback]480208[/snapback]
Were you at the game?

I was indeed, and I was trying very hard to objectively assess a contest between a first and third division side.

Nowhere have I suggested that Dumbarton had superior players in terms of fitness or general ability, but the fact remains that BOTH sides created chances.

If lady luck had smiled on us we could have won by two or three goals-indeed our one goal WAS a bit of luck- but particularly in the last half hour the Sons played far more attractive attacking football, and they COULD have won by a similar margin.
mortonjag 2008-07-19 12:53:00
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jul 18 2008, 06:09 PM) [snapback]479833[/snapback]
....... the hound please.

Hired a boat on the Shannon for a week so I'm off tomorrow to sail the briny with me tars........

Later dudes

TonInDublin

ps Dirty Dingus - you're in as soon as the mods see the PM I sent

Should we be looking out for a latter day Columba paddling his coracle wearily past Ailsa Craig next Saturday?
mortonjag 2008-07-19 12:59:36 I remember when I was much younger I had two recurring nightmares. One was being in a public pace naked, and the second was falling from a great height.

Nowadays my dreams are much more random, and usually have at least some connection with reality.

I once dreamed (honestly) that Douglas Rae had paid somebody to kill me, but he was a pretty poor shot, and I managed to escape to safety.
mortonjag 2008-07-19 13:08:33
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jul 18 2008, 05:32 PM) [snapback]479823[/snapback]
couple of hundred bucks worth of fine
i disagree, not voting isnt democratic and in my view means you have no right to moan. you slag off salmond and yet you had the only opportunity you have to tell him you dont agree with him and you turned it down. im leaning towards compulsory voting at the minute. spoling your paper im all for

I'm afraid I'm fundamentally at odds with your proposition. I did not choose to be born in this country, but here I am. I am entirely at liberty to decide whether or not I vote in a process which I did not endorse in the first place. If a law was introduced to 'make' me vote, I would simply become further proof that stupid laws are flouted, and I'd be damned sure to milk the publicity about my 'punishment' for all it was worth too! dry.gif

QUOTE(BMC @ Jul 19 2008, 12:00 AM) [snapback]480044[/snapback]
Isnt the point of a democracy that everyone has a choice when it comes to who to vote for, including none of them.

PRECISELY.

QUOTE(leyTON @ Jul 19 2008, 05:04 AM) [snapback]480108[/snapback]
yes and you can do so by spoiling your paper, or crossing no vote, as dunning says. not turning up is just lazy and gaves you know say in the democratic process. MJ cannot rant about salmond, he did nothing to prevent him coming to power

Mortonjag MAY rant about Salmond as long and hard as Mortonjag wishes. You may have noticed that Mortonjag 'rants' about all politicians.

Mortonjag is proud of HIS independence.

It never fails to amaze me how many of today's youngsters appear to buy into ideology without giving a thought-SPARROT is perhaps the best example on our little pubic massage board.

I'm entitled to 'rant' at the behaviour of Mr Mugabe even though I've never been anywhere near Zimbabwe, let alone been offered a vote in its democratic elections. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-19 13:45:42 Last night I attended a football match with my brother. Sitting about three seats along was an extremely portly gentleman, whom I felt sure I'd seen before. When I went for my half time piss, he smiled at me and graciously ushered me past his protuberant abdomen with a friendly pat on the back.

This process was repeated on my return from the lavatory.

I kept thinking I knew him from somewhere, and in the car on the way home I asked my brother, who claims this gentleman used to be a mascot at the club, but I'm sure he must be getting confused.

So there we go. Mortonjag has confessed to ignorance! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-19 13:48:42
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 19 2008, 10:34 AM) [snapback]480177[/snapback]
ohmy.gif
God I can't go anywhere these days!!!!
Oh and something else I must say....people need to stop taking their toddlers to weddings!!!!! I'm sure anyone who has been to a wedding will know exactly what I mean!

Nothing should be allowed to distract you from your pipes.
mortonjag 2008-07-19 13:52:23
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 19 2008, 10:33 AM) [snapback]480173[/snapback]
Ah c'mon...get it telt!!!!!

WTF's QOTW
mortonjag 2008-07-19 13:57:04
QUOTE(BMC @ Jul 18 2008, 11:42 PM) [snapback]480024[/snapback]
Haha remember when at Uni there was someone surfing porn in the computer labs which is 3 rows of computers facing the same way, so you could see the machines in the rows in front of you and thus the hardcore action this guy was looking at. Everyone was posting on the newsgroup laughing and/or horrified at this, the guy was promptly nicknamed mr shoogly wrist although he obviously never read the newsgroup as it didnt stop him and this continued for about a week till he was chucked off the course as the lecturers etc would post on the newsgroup as well and obviously found out about him. Bizarre behaviour IMO.

OH DEAR! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jul 19 2008, 08:29 AM) [snapback]480121[/snapback]
We had one joker who spent his Saturday overtime surfing porn (before MOD firewalls got as restrictive) He got a severe warning but couldn't resist the lure and he was back on it a month later. Needless to say the didn't survive the second episode and got canned. :lol:Must have been a real joy explaining it to his happy clappy born again missus.


laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

I've always thought of porn as a means to an end rather than free standing.

Anyway, when I worked, I was far too busy looking at folk in varying degrees of undress, to bother with a computer monitor.
mortonjag 2008-07-19 14:07:11
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Jul 18 2008, 04:53 PM) [snapback]479807[/snapback]
I live in 'leafy' Broomhill, and i'm still a complete cretin. The West End doesn't make you soft. I agree there are a lot of helmets in close proximity though.
The front of my flat was graffitied (I say graffiti, i wee guy wrote his name with a stone) by school weans a few weeks back, with the name 'Elliot' and some other name i couldn't quite make out. There's not enough Tams or Rabs.

I'm beginning to wonder how many of the forum members live in Glasgow!
mortonjag 2008-07-19 14:12:01
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 19 2008, 01:35 PM) [snapback]480230[/snapback]
ill aim better so i get you ph34r.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Do you think I'm some sort of perv lurking in the disabled toilet?

Erm--please keep the answer civilised! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-19 14:15:59
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 18 2008, 06:39 PM) [snapback]479840[/snapback]
that really is quite funny biggrin.gif

Why?
mortonjag 2008-07-19 14:29:57
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 19 2008, 02:14 PM) [snapback]480240[/snapback]
i meant ill get your toes on the way out:ph34r:

You ARE a naughty man!

QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 19 2008, 02:18 PM) [snapback]480242[/snapback]
I have a wee feeling that Brian Graham might just murder the third division.

In terms of ability I'd think yes, but don't forget who his 'Manager' will be!
mortonjag 2008-07-19 18:17:36 It's only a game --team one looks more 'complete'-team two is potentially more inventive.

0-0 draw for me! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-19 18:22:07
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jul 19 2008, 03:36 PM) [snapback]480249[/snapback]
McGurn was beyond hopeless, he made Craig Coyle seem like Gigi Buffon or Iker Casillas.

I'd rather we played Cappie the Cat in goal than McGurn.

HA-I see Chocolate Boy IS returning to his old self. McGurn was not great. McGurn was not too bad. Craig Coyle was a good wee reflex goalie with about as little presence as Robinson but slightly less infantile.
mortonjag 2008-07-19 18:47:13
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jul 14 2008, 05:21 PM) [snapback]477131[/snapback]

Oh c'mon-it COULD be fun!







mortonjag 2008-07-19 20:36:59
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jul 19 2008, 07:14 PM) [snapback]480299[/snapback]
I haven't seen Stewart yet, but it's quite worrying that a reasonable number of posters seem to think Stewart is worse than Robinson. That said though, "better than we have", if Robinson ends up being what we have, applies to hundreds of people across Scotland. Being better than what you have doesn't really mean much if what you have is utter s***e.
As for McGurn, he was a decent goalie. Not perfect by any means, but he had his moments, and by no means "hopeless". I think he was poorly treated by being expected to be the goalkeeper coach, despite being young himself. He would have benefited massively if he was under the tutelage of a guy like Wylie.

I first saw him against Ayr and thought he looked quite solid. In the two subsequent matches he's seemed to lack concentration more than anything else.
mortonjag 2008-07-19 20:49:48 laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

I was actually expecting something horrific!
mortonjag 2008-07-20 07:03:51
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jul 19 2008, 10:27 PM) [snapback]480349[/snapback]
Good post Colkitto, verging on the 'positive' so please be careful - doesn't go well on this , the Leonard Cohen of messageboards. Makes a refreshing change from the doom mongers " It's gonnae be a looooong season"patter. As Brian says.......... Aberdeen/Peterhead .
I agree that the injury situation is a concern , but overall I'm optimistic.

Mon the 'ton ...........onward and upwards !

HEY CLOTH EARS-you're outed-I'm NOT having it this time around-you are just another

AGENT PROVOCATEUR



Tonsilitis has made an extremely valid point-none of the subsequent posts could be described as other than realisitic-at worst some could be argued to be constructively critical, and in you sidle with the BORING 'old hat' about 'doom mongers'.


It's EXACTLY the same as this time last season-folk who haven't a positive thought in their own heads accuse realists of 'negativity' only to be proved wrong in the final event. I LOVE wub.gif reminding folk that this time last year over 75% of posters HAD FULL CONFIDENCE IN JM's ABILITY. rolleyes.gif


THAT is a measure of the endemic myopia of this pubic massage board- where are you now folks? happy.gif You all disappeared like snow off a dyke- cowards and fools that you were! thumbdown.gif

Those of us gifted with a modicum of intelligence and perception-particularly those of us who have spent our lives observing symptoms and signs and instituting early remedy-can see that not all is well.

Excuses will always be just that-last years JM apologists appear simply to have changed hats. There's still a LOT required before the squad can ever be anything like 'complete'

Time to wake up and smell the coffee, cloth ears. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-20 08:50:33
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Jul 19 2008, 09:12 PM) [snapback]480332[/snapback]
The wage increases for Greacen, Harding and co were pathetic. In no way do players who have played crap for the last year deserve a new contract, let along an improved one.

We would have been better of letting them go and using that money to sign someone better. And that wouldn't be very difficult based on their performances for the majority of the past season.

I couldn't agree more-by all means we could have kept them on short contracts with their income largely tied to performance bonuses. It sends out the wrong messages to others at the club too.

QUOTE(Savo @ Jul 20 2008, 02:30 AM) [snapback]480387[/snapback]
Yes.

There is open bewilderment/incredulity within the game at what ocurred earlier in the close season at Cappielow with regard to a couple of particular contract extensions at our club.

I strongly suspect this has been Sugar Daddy at work again. He's a f*cking nightmare-siding with his chosen 'boys' to the general detriment of the Club. The 'Cowboy' fiasco was a classical example of 'Daddy DOESN'T know best'. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-20 08:57:11
QUOTE(Jimsimpson11 @ Jul 18 2008, 06:23 PM) [snapback]479837[/snapback]
3 Bedroom top flat in Kestrel Place. Quiet wee cul-de-sac. Just been decorated throughout, excellent view over Gourock and across the Clyde. Fixed Price �68,000. If anyones interested and wants to come up and have a look around send me a PM. Cheers Liam rolleyes.gif




Sorry mate-I have my eye on a TWO bedroom flat with views of the neighbours across the street shagging. It's just over three times the price! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-20 09:02:40
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jul 19 2008, 11:32 PM) [snapback]480364[/snapback]
Another dig at Dougie ! You saying he wouldn't pay the money for a marksman and hired a cowboy to do the job ?

Shokkin' !

He actually sacked the cowboy and hired a 'consummate professional'! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

It WAS a genuine nightmare BTW! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-20 09:05:47
QUOTE(mmm beer @ Jul 20 2008, 08:06 AM) [snapback]480397[/snapback]
I happened to measure my BP the other day and am slightly concerned about the results. While my left arm seems to be almost ideal at around 120/75 my right arm ranges from 125 to 135 on the upper scale and can be as low as 60 on the lower scale, giving me a pulse pressure of around 70 sometimes (which is high).

At 40, apart from alcohol at the weekend, I should be the ideal candidate not to have a problem with blood pressure.

Anyway, anyone care to share?

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-20 09:21:00 Following on the excellently non ageist response to the Helen Mirren thread, mortonjag extends a welcome to any interested parties.


mortonjag 2008-07-20 09:28:26
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 20 2008, 09:06 AM) [snapback]480412[/snapback]
I had the weirdest of dreams last night.

I dreamt that Dundee put 5 past us at Dens, not sure if they scored again after I woke up.

The scary thing is our 1st fixture against them is at Dens!!!

I'll be very surprised if anybody puts more than four past us this coming season.

There again I'm a negative c*nt! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-20 10:46:40
QUOTE(jpmil @ Jul 20 2008, 09:34 AM) [snapback]480419[/snapback]
With the initial signings I thought that we were beginning to look good but after seeing some of the "friendlies" (I know that a lot of trialists were involved) but it was obvious that there was no one with flair who could deliver a telling pass and supply our strikers with scoring opportunities. I thought (silly old me) that it would have been an ideal opportunity for DI to give his most gifted player "Jamie" a chance (albeit a final one) to show what he has to offer. It is the managers job to get the best (by whatever means some need a friendly arm round the shoulder others need a kick up the a**e) from the players under his control. It seems to me that DI has written off Jamie and I think that a great shame.

I'm not going to criticise DI on this, as I don't know the background story. It's perfectly clear, however, that nobody in our existing squad has his natural playmaking ability. I've said also, we're going to miss Midge.
mortonjag 2008-07-20 11:06:27 Those?
mortonjag 2008-07-20 11:24:36
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Jul 20 2008, 09:26 AM) [snapback]480416[/snapback]
hmm, that photo reminds me of a lassie i had a wee fumble wi when i was 15.
Did you hang about St.Stephens in 1997 wub.gif

I hung about several schools!
mortonjag 2008-07-20 11:46:11
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 20 2008, 11:05 AM) [snapback]480436[/snapback]
Irons is quoted in the NotW today saying that a deal should be struck in the next couple of days to bring back Lee for the season.

HMM! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-20 11:52:01
QUOTE(mmm beer @ Jul 20 2008, 09:36 AM) [snapback]480420[/snapback]
Really. I joined a new gym and they had an orientation at which they did a few measurements one of which was blood pressure in both arms. First time I've have my blood pressure taken since I can remember. It was the women who did the test who got me worried as I didn't even know what my numbers should be.

Differential results between the two arms is entirely normal. Sphygmomanometry is a science best left to those properly trained.

I'd accept your values as entirely normal, and get your G.P. to check next time you can be arsed!
mortonjag 2008-07-20 11:58:49
QUOTE(Edinton @ Jul 20 2008, 11:48 AM) [snapback]480451[/snapback]

TUVM_TTFN
mortonjag 2008-07-20 12:07:22
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 20 2008, 08:31 AM) [snapback]480400[/snapback]
Looking for a bar that'll still be open around the 1amish mark, this Friday morning, in the City that I can enjoy a pint or two in.

Not sure if The Toll Booth, at Glasgow X, is a 24hr but most morning when I go to work it's open.

There's quite a few Tim Shops around that area but again not sure if any are open 24hrs.

Anyone help ??

Only the hotels seems to have 24 hour licences, but it's the Glesga Fair so I'd imagine quite a few popular pubs will have applied for late licences.
mortonjag 2008-07-20 13:03:25
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jul 20 2008, 12:54 PM) [snapback]480467[/snapback]
I think the problem is that too many companies have such an internal view of things that they think it would be impossible to make external hire's for any senior positions.

As such those who have been there the longest and understand how the politics works can generally get promotions way beyond their abilities.

Also remember the old addage that people get promoted to their level of incompetence. Basically if you are good at a job you can get a promotion. If you are good at that you get a promotion etc. Only when you are not good at a job you stay there, rather than get a demotion.

Nothing to do with big tits, arse licking, shagging, religion, colour, who you know etc!
mortonjag 2008-07-20 13:10:56
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 20 2008, 01:02 PM) [snapback]480471[/snapback]
Great shame about his attitude as he undoubtedly has talent. If he gets his head sorted there might still be room for him at Cappielow but I would doubt if he can. Tigers and stripes and all that! Is'nt it amazing how many highly talented people in all walks of life not just football, can't use their talent to the full because their head gets in the way!!

Does anyone know what the financial deal is when a player goes on loan? I presume its agreed that the receiving club pays a proportion of his wages and we remain stuck with the rest. So if he was getting say £750 pw (and I have no idea what he gets!!) and Alloa paid part time money of maybe £350 per week, we are still stuck with the rest? Presumably the negotiation relates to what element of wages will be paid by the receiving club and the higher the better?

Wasps and stripes?

His attitude at Alloa was second to none so far as I could see. His talent is undoubted. I DON'T believe the damage done under JM could not have been repaired internally mad.gif , but at least he's still available to us.
mortonjag 2008-07-20 13:21:23 No budding surgeons among us! laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-20 15:33:44
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jul 20 2008, 01:45 PM) [snapback]480483[/snapback]
Not Rae's doing from what I've heard.

So somebody else did it behind the old Shooglemeister's back? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-20 15:41:20
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 20 2008, 03:35 PM) [snapback]480554[/snapback]
I hear it was Irons. All down to him sad.gif

I'd need clarification. It's easy for Shoogly to sanction (even order) something and then sit back allowing others to take the responsibility.

I frankly don't believe that DI said to him, 'I'm giving 33% rises and long contracts to x, y, and z, when in the same breath he was claiming that players couldn't be signed until 'the Chairman got some money back on folk he wanted released'.

NOPE-doesn't make any sense. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-20 15:57:36
QUOTE(Andy M @ Jul 20 2008, 02:29 PM) [snapback]480503[/snapback]
We are now inviting people to sponsor these webcasts. Please send me a PM detailing which match you want to sponsor and a note of your PALTALK ID and I'll annotate the fixture with your paltalk id. We really need as many sponsors as we can get as the costs this season will be higher than last season. We will also accept multiple sponsors for each Webcast.

Season tickets at £20 or more are also available by sending your donation to MortonWebcasts@hotmail.com.

July
Threave Rovers
Tow Law Town
Durham City
Dumbarton
Stranraer ........................................... Fixture cancelled

August
Clyde
Dundee
Airdrie United ....................................... Sponsored by Exiled Scot. Thank you !

September
Partick Thistle

October
Ross County ......................................... Sponsored by MortonJag. Thank You !

November
Livingston
Queen of the South
Dunfermline Athletic

December
St. Johnstone
Airdrie United

January
Dundee

February
Clyde
Partick Thistle

March
Queen of the South
Ross County

April
Livingston
Dunfermline

May
St. Johnstone ....................................... Sponsored by Exiled Scot. Thank you !

Please note that any AWAY cup fixtures will be added to this list as and when they become available.

Andy-I'll hand you over the £100 in person at the first official home game.
mortonjag 2008-07-20 16:04:42
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jul 20 2008, 02:02 PM) [snapback]480487[/snapback]
Fake, fake, you can see the editing and what a bizzare ending. Where the f*** did Osama come from unsure.gif

jag, do you think I have what it takes to become a surgeon, I am eating my dinner watching that bollocks (I'll get my coat) ph34r.gif

TBH, the guy may well have killed himself three days later for such a pathetic attempt at a spoof!

I loved the bit where he shelled his bollocks out like peas from a pod. Anybody with the most basic anatomical knowledge knows that's a total impossibility, and where was the blood? You shouldn't have been able to see ANYTHING for blood! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-20 16:09:04
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 20 2008, 02:17 PM) [snapback]480494[/snapback]
What's the fat bit round the clitoris called ??
THE WIFE !!!

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mortonjag 2008-07-20 16:19:18 It's peculiar that some folk (not necessarily on this thread) have a seemingly insatiable desire to put the boot in as soon as a player leaves. For them, it's always black or white.

It wasn't Stevenson's 'bad attitude' which dealt him a nasty injury last season. It wasn't Stevenson's 'bad attitude' which saw him save Alloa from relegation almost single handedly.

Plenty of very successful players have had 'bad attitudes' sorted out by experienced managers.
mortonjag 2008-07-20 16:37:45
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 20 2008, 04:34 PM) [snapback]480577[/snapback]
Since his quote in the papers after the Clyde game, I have been more than open about my unliking of the guy.

Now if he was to buy me a pint or 4 rolleyes.gif

How about two? blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-20 16:44:21 Dr and Mrs Mortonjag are happy to announce the graduation of their two sons-Monkey-Dalglish Mortonjag, and Fing Mortonjag at Oxford University on 18th July 2008.

Munx has taken a 'first' in Divinity, while Fing has completed his Masters in Applied Weaponry.

No good wishes or flowers please.
mortonjag 2008-07-20 16:58:25
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 20 2008, 04:50 PM) [snapback]480585[/snapback]
Don't they look 'Cute' all dressed up blush.gif


Yes-we are SO proud! smile.gif
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 20 2008, 04:51 PM) [snapback]480587[/snapback]
Which colleges in Oxford they graduate from?

Proper colleges, young man! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-20 17:02:55
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 20 2008, 04:39 PM) [snapback]480583[/snapback]
Depends on if he is in a good mood ph34r.gif



QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 20 2008, 04:51 PM) [snapback]480586[/snapback]
Which folk are these?

Quite.
I agree totally (only the manager doesn't necessarily have to be "experienced" - Unai Emery in Spain is renowned as a great man-manager and he's in his thirties.) But it didn't happen at Mallorca and it didn't happen here, so there's little point in crying over spilt milk.

Of course I would much rather have seen him flourish at Morton, but he didn't, and there's little prospect of his doing so. Good riddance to him.



QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 20 2008, 04:59 PM) [snapback]480594[/snapback]
I concor

Shades of the comments made by another poster about Derek Collins-and he's NOT even left us? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-20 17:05:06
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 20 2008, 05:03 PM) [snapback]480596[/snapback]
Who are you calling a Pouffe tongue.gif

Willy Man WAS, IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE A POUFFE!
mortonjag 2008-07-20 17:06:04
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 20 2008, 05:04 PM) [snapback]480597[/snapback]
...which are....? wink.gif

absolutely NONE of your business. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-20 17:07:44
QUOTE(Deego @ Jul 20 2008, 04:54 PM) [snapback]480589[/snapback]
Spammers.

Hammers
mortonjag 2008-07-20 17:09:15 Count me in-I'm already up for it.
mortonjag 2008-07-20 17:13:50
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 20 2008, 03:26 PM) [snapback]480548[/snapback]
i wouldnt argue with the second bit. tongue.gif
laugh.gif i think i will about 7ish, when i go over to my friends to try and piece together what the hell happened last night. Bad enough i can hardly walk because my legs are sore, but the fact im sitting here shivvering because of my hangover really doesn't help either.

I'm just glad i got to see Vikington wrecked, that was one of those moments you always wish you'll see but you never really think its going to happen. laugh.gif He didn't say a word for the first two hours but give him a drink and he doesn't shut up.

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QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 20 2008, 04:19 PM) [snapback]480569[/snapback]
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i think having a face the same color as your t-shirt is a really good look to be fair. Apologies as i was pretty far gone by this point as you can tell by the face laugh.gif
edit to add: i've never had sunburn in my life before yesterday.

You're MUCH more attractive with your clothes off! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-20 17:15:04
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 20 2008, 05:12 PM) [snapback]480607[/snapback]
Erm..no, am homophobic

Not what midTONs told me!
mortonjag 2008-07-20 17:31:47
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 20 2008, 05:17 PM) [snapback]480613[/snapback]
he can tell you whatever, its up to you if you believe it or not. Some of the stories he tells me about you are scary, but I'll make my own mind up.. tongue.gif

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He DIDN'T tell you the one about the pumpkin? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-20 17:37:27 I've never had a 'boss' in the true sense of the word. My partner's boss (known as plookheid) is a complete nincompoop, who seems to see herself as a Primary School teacher in charge of little children when in fact the only wean is herself!

She keeps trying to organise 'nights out'-largely because she's desperate for a man, and they all say 'yes' until the last day or so-then cancel for various reasons! thumbup2.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-20 17:39:37
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 20 2008, 05:37 PM) [snapback]480620[/snapback]
Is that your pet name for midTONs unsure.gif

NOPE-his pet name for my knob.
mortonjag 2008-07-20 17:41:58
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 20 2008, 03:15 PM) [snapback]480537[/snapback]
I know its a few months away, but I thought I'd let you all know that we have a Stripper's Night planned for the 25th Oct.

Giving plenty of notice, so that some can arrange leave from work etc. I have placed it in here so that most partners don't see it, incase your using the old, am away out to play pool, or just a few beers with the lads, honest dear...

Darroch Bar(upstairs), free buffet if anyone is interested. Tickets prices to be announce nearer the time...

Please note that there are no private rooms available in the Darroch, just the toilets.


Will any of those those strippers be male?
mortonjag 2008-07-20 18:12:52
QUOTE(irnbru @ Jul 20 2008, 05:51 PM) [snapback]480625[/snapback]
I was just looking for a decent match report as no one seems to have actually spoke in any depth about the game as yet!

I'll get to see myself the state of thing myself for the first time this season on Saturday, but from what I've read it may not be a lot to look forward to...

The fact that nobody posted a match report says it all. At the end of the game my brother and I couldn't pick a MOTM, so we opted for Wakey-purely for his first half effort-good holding up/laying off play and a couple of deft touches for a big man. Kev was non existent. Jamie was a bit better than against Hartlepool, and had one good shot, but not much else. LEAFY and Newbs did a lot of good running but no real joy. As for the midfield TO A MAN they seemed to be stirring porridge. CONSTANTLY wanted rid of the ball-almost like DI had said 'don't get injured'! The only player who tried to run with the ball near the end was the right back trialist (Reid I believe), and indeed the defence was mainly trialists with Spoonsy making a not particularly good job of marshalling them.
Stewart wasn't troubled that much but still contrived to make five or six totally unforced errors!

In the last twenty minutes or so Dumbarton strung together three or four attacking moves, and were perhaps a bit unlucky not to score. One of those moves up the left was by far the best of the match and deserved better.

Oh-and I forgot to mention our goal. Masterton hit a low hard free to the keeper's left-he spilled it in the slippy conditions and McGuffie netted from close in.

I've probably missed a lot as I wasn't watching that closely to be honest! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-20 18:18:06
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jul 20 2008, 05:48 PM) [snapback]480624[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDI have a 'skeleton' knob which will open any back door.
mortonjag 2008-07-20 19:05:45
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jul 20 2008, 06:50 PM) [snapback]480635[/snapback]
in all seriousness i do think MJ has a wife and 2 kids
under the floorboards...

In the cellar.
mortonjag 2008-07-20 19:08:43
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Jul 20 2008, 06:40 PM) [snapback]480633[/snapback]
The thing that annoys me most about Peter is that he is a good player and that he could be useful to us if he actually put the effort in. As it is he is an unfit liability and a disgrace to the jersey. He is without a doubt a better player than Wake, but at least Wake puts in a good shift and is looking to score goals - can you say the same about Peter in the second half of last season.

Also Peter scored 9 League Goals last season, only one more than Ian Russell who everyone says is not good enough. As much as Wake is probably not the answer, neither is Peter. We really need to sign another striker imo.

Before wingers, full backs, and a second goalie?
mortonjag 2008-07-20 19:10:34
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jul 20 2008, 07:01 PM) [snapback]480641[/snapback]
Although we should offer Jim a long term deal, with a get clause in case he gets injured.

WHY?
mortonjag 2008-07-20 19:13:09
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 20 2008, 07:10 PM) [snapback]480648[/snapback]
We ain't got a playmaker either. sad.gif

We have quite a lot of big boys though! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-20 20:47:16
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 20 2008, 07:33 PM) [snapback]480653[/snapback]
I've never even concerned myself with where he came from. ph34r.gif

How can u rate an upturned turtle like Craig Coyle yet bemoan the return of Robinson? I'm the first to admit he was honking when he came but the improvement in his game was marked towards the end of the season and the goalkeeping position is the least of my concerns now.

What DOES concern me FAR more is the lack of full backs, lack of wingers, lack of pace, lack of creativity, lack of depth, lack of left footer....mad.gif

Robinson clearly has ability, but he appears very immature. His unpredictability and showman shenanigans pissed me off!

I'd have him back OK as an understudy to a solid experienced first keeper, especially with Wylie's tutelage on tap. The worry is that Stewart may not fill the bill, and we end up with two 'unreliable' stoppers.
mortonjag 2008-07-20 20:50:29
QUOTE(johnston @ Jul 20 2008, 07:46 PM) [snapback]480660[/snapback]
Serious question,which colleges did they graduate from?.

Serious answer-you'll have to ask them. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-20 20:57:36
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 20 2008, 08:54 PM) [snapback]480683[/snapback]
Not the first quack to do that. unsure.gif

Though he might have been fitted up.

Clicky

The jury took just 27 minutes to convict Crippen. Yet the homeopathic practitioner was unrepentant to the end.

Bloody homophobes! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-20 21:00:15
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 20 2008, 08:48 PM) [snapback]480678[/snapback]
could it be he was given a budget to do what he wanted with and we signed 4 guys, gave 2 guys huge raises, re signed 2 others and with room to sign 2 more, however if he wanted more budget than that he would have to release more staff.

It could indeed, and if that is what happened it makes Mr Irons look VERY silly. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-20 21:04:40 Question is-would I give up supporting the TON for £1 million?

As the actress said to the bishop-that's a hard one.
mortonjag 2008-07-20 21:09:35
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 20 2008, 09:04 PM) [snapback]480691[/snapback]
he will live and die in this job for his choices

Oh dear-I hope you're not suggesting he has a rapidly developing terminal illness!
mortonjag 2008-07-20 21:19:09 I'll start with our new boy, Newby! (aka Newbs)

A striker and Scouser named Newbs
Had bollocks like wee cola cubes
He pled with the surgeon
'My wife's still a virgin'
And now has a fanny and boobs.
mortonjag 2008-07-20 21:35:32 Young Robinson's ginger and macho
He'd sure be 'The Tom' in a cat show
It's all just a spoof
He's really a pouffe
Who's serviced twice weekly by Nach0
mortonjag 2008-07-20 21:43:05
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 20 2008, 09:35 PM) [snapback]480708[/snapback]
Got the typical email from the offering £1 deals. Usually you can never get the dates you want for £1, but amazingly I checked the dates the misses is off during Sept and got a family of 4 to Rome, on return flights for £8 including taxes...

Not bad eh...

There offer ends tonight if anyone elase is planning a trip..

Anyone got any tips for visiting Rome?

Don't bother seeing the Pope-they all look the same.
mortonjag 2008-07-20 21:44:28
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 20 2008, 09:43 PM) [snapback]480719[/snapback]
"Serviced?" You're not off by far
I touched not his knob but his car
He drives in a Metro
Thus he's really quite hetero
But Jag owners leave bangles ajar



Young Harding is balding and plooky
And recently bought a Suzuki
It's tight in the back
But he soon got the knack
Of giving big Greacen his nookie.
mortonjag 2008-07-20 22:08:24
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 20 2008, 09:51 PM) [snapback]480723[/snapback]
While we're typing s***e on computers
"Leafy" Russell is out on his scooter
The ladies all flash
And proffer their gash
But is that what he wants of a suitor? ohmy.gif



LEAFY'S little Lambretta's a fake
He's really a pouffe on the make
His new Subaru
Is the true place to screw
With his knob half way up Brian Wake
mortonjag 2008-07-21 07:22:20
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 20 2008, 09:32 PM) [snapback]480702[/snapback]
http://www.gmfc.net/club-news/news-view.asp?id=340

Does anyone know a reason for this? Obviously the club won't tell The Enemy (i.e. fans/customers) but maybe someone has an inkling?

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mortonjag 2008-07-21 07:24:12
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 20 2008, 11:29 PM) [snapback]480778[/snapback]
I notice midTONs aint denying anything posted on this thread laugh.gif

Immodest queen.
mortonjag 2008-07-21 07:36:15
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jul 20 2008, 11:52 PM) [snapback]480803[/snapback]
The black guy, coloured is considered racist now.


Black is surely a colour-FFS what is this bloody world coming to, AND tell me this --if there are 100 whites and one black in a room, am I allowed to say 'the OTHER' chap'? JESUSSSSS
[quote name='cornbeef'
In fact Thornton is on the money- if you mean black , say black. Coloured is regarded as 'offensive' I don't necessarily agree with this but what the hey blink.gif

[/quote

Is it OK then to say of a quick glimpse of a room that it contained people of many colours? dry.gif dry.gif dry.gif .

...or is one forbidden to attempt to describe them....'Erm, the room was full of people, 'Your Honour'........'Describe them please'............... 'Erm, they all seemed to be col....Erm one might have been black, but they were definitely not of a white colour--some seemed blacker than the lighter brown ones and at least one looked almost orange like when my dad died of jaundice....I'm certain there were no green ones, and they say the Chinese are yellow, so the one with the very slanty eyes was probably yellow, though I'd have described her as more of an antique peuce'. mad.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 07:46:18 I have abstained. The only guy who impressed a bit was the big pony tailed centre back who was of a blackish colour. Indeed, he might have been pure black, though ebony may be an exaggeration.

Anyway the big black (coloured) centre back was pretty good. especially in the second half against Hartlepool. Goodness, he may even have the makings of a 'quality player'. Trouble is we don't need a centre back as a priority. maybe JM could play him on the right wing!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

The rest-the ones of variable hues-mainly keech IMO.
mortonjag 2008-07-21 07:48:07
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 21 2008, 07:46 AM) [snapback]480835[/snapback]
maybe thats because midTONs hadn't saw any of it.

Maybe it is! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 07:54:14
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 20 2008, 11:47 AM) [snapback]480450[/snapback]
I have 'White Coat Syndrom' am told' so any reading I have taking by a doctor/nurse etc is high.
And before anyone says am talking pish, am sure MJ can confirm 'White Coat Syndrom' is true

I had one of those 24hrs test recently and ma blood pressure was fine... am looking good for 80-90 years +

Spot on-and it's not just the 'white coat'. You might equally describe is as 'Big Tit syndrome', or whatever you like.

Proper measurement of blood pressure is a specialised science, and requires repeated measurements both in the standing and reclining positions, often recorded from both arms and legs, and after significant relaxation.

An isolated BP reading is about as reliable as choosing the Grand National winner using a pin.

Having said that, I'd confidently suggest that JM's blood pressure rarely rose above 47/21 mm Hg.
mortonjag 2008-07-21 08:03:19
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 20 2008, 10:18 PM) [snapback]480743[/snapback]
And I saw you and got totally blanked sad.gif



He 'Deeceed you'! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 08:05:17
QUOTE(Deego @ Jul 20 2008, 10:47 PM) [snapback]480757[/snapback]
Hello.

When talking to someone are you able to look them in the eye?

Only if he is monocular.

QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jul 20 2008, 11:16 PM) [snapback]480770[/snapback]
You should always look people in the eye, unless you have something to hide?? unsure.gif Or the person you are talking to is a short arse. ph34r.gif

People who can't look me in the eyes are usually scared to go to x-rated films.
mortonjag 2008-07-21 08:11:04
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 20 2008, 11:51 PM) [snapback]480798[/snapback]
So why did you vote YES on the Helen Mirren thread unsure.gif

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I have seen a VERY few women in their seventies who were arguably still sexually desirable.

I find the young blonde carbon copy 'shag me' wannabes who plague modern society a complete turn off.

Women peak sexually around forty-FACT.

There is much more to an enjoyable sexual experience than sticking your knob up some random hole.
mortonjag 2008-07-21 08:21:29
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 20 2008, 11:17 PM) [snapback]480771[/snapback]
There's a big Ton player called Walker
In fact he's not much of a talker
He runs like a bender, which ain't good for a defender
Plus his heading is iffy and out of sorts
But that doesn't matter, cause Shoogly wants into his shorts.



Spurtle-our pubic massage board's own Morrisey!! wub.gif

Surely Ryan McGuffie's one of the easiest names to 'Limerick'!

Buffy, Duffy, huffy, puffy, toughy, etc.

Our invisible player's McGuffie
He certainly isn't a toughie
He seems quite aloof
Which is strange for a pouffe
Who's frequently humped big Jim Duffy.
mortonjag 2008-07-21 08:41:47
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Jul 21 2008, 08:21 AM) [snapback]480843[/snapback]
Please note, result from this Poll may be completely ignored...
  1. Live Is Life - Na na na na na
  2. Insomnia - Faithless, used most of last season.
  3. Roll With It - Oasis, used a couple of times.
  4. A N Other - Suggestions?
Sorry, seem to have buggered up the Poll bit! rolleyes.gif
BRIAN, are you busy? wink.gif



In my solitary concession to Shooglyphilia-please play the old Nana his choon.
mortonjag 2008-07-21 08:45:41
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Jul 21 2008, 08:30 AM) [snapback]480844[/snapback]
My brother and I banged a Mother/Daughter combo in Turkey a few years ago.
I was about 25, brother 21.
I shagged the daughter who was 48... blink.gif

That's pretty impressive!

Are you sure they were telling the truth about their ages-Turks are renowned liars. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 08:51:47 Now that you are creeping towards your mid twenties you will almost certainly be starting to appreciate the wisdom of older people! blush.gif

The Monkey and Fing send good wishes! thumbup2.gif drink.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 09:03:26
LABOUR hit the streets of Glasgow East over the weekend as activists banged on 20,000 doors in a final effort to shore up the party's vote.
But Labour's campaign managers seemed keen to play down expectations on the size of victory they expect despite a poll over the weekend suggesting they had 52 per cent support in the constituency as against 35 per cent for the SNP. They suggested that the final gap might be much tighter.

By contrast, Alex Salmond, the First Minister and SNP leader, was still predicting "a political earthquake" with his party winning in what was Labour's 25th safest seat as he brought in four more high-profile backers including veteran Clydeside trade unionist Jimmy Reid, now a member of the SNP.

But apart from the SNP, political opponents were privately conceding that Labour will probably win the crucial by-election, suggesting the party was deliberately playing down expectations to nullify the effect of a much-reduced majority from the 13,500 lead they enjoyed in 2005.

A Conservative campaign insider said: "It's a classic damage limitation exercise by Labour. Alex Salmond has played into their hands by raising expectations of an SNP victory. Labour will hope a win is good enough, even though in reality a much-reduced majority in a safe seat is a disaster for them."

The claim was denied by a spokesman for Labour's candidate, Margaret Curran.

"What we are saying is that the only poll that matters is the one on Thursday," he said.

In a television interview over the weekend, Mr Salmond insisted his party was on the verge of a historic victory and reminded viewers that the Glasgow East seat is safer than that of Gordon Brown's own constituency, Kirkcaldy.

He also seized on weekend reports of chaos and dispirited workers within the Labour by-election campaign team.

One of the campaign organisers, Martin Rhodes, was quoted as describing Mr Brown's leadership as "disappointing" and as saying the result would be "scarily close".

Mr Salmond said: "The Labour campaign is in chaos. Our campaign is optimistic and upbeat. I'm optimistic, upbeat, and the earthquake is on the way. The ground in Glasgow East is shuddering."

SNP activists yesterday delivered 10,000 letters from Mr Reid, explaining why voters should switch to the Nationalists.

Meanwhile, the actors Martin Compston and David Hayman joined the artist Peter Howson in declared their backing for the SNP.

Despite the importance of the by-election, which could see Mr Brown forced to quit as party leader if Labour lose, the party's campaign manager, Scotland Office minister David Cairns, said activists were in good spirits.

"We will be pounding the streets relentlessly from now until 9:55pm on Thursday night," he said.

"We are in very good spirits – we set a target on Friday night to knock on 20,000 doors, and we are well over half way.

"The reception is genuinely really good. You get a bit of apathy, as you always do, but we don't think our vote is collapsing – far from it."

Bookmakers still have Labour as the clear favourite to win the by-election, with William Hill quoting a Labour victory at 2/5 and Ladbrokes quoting the party at 4/11.

But the biggest move in the odds has been towards the Conservatives, who came fourth in 2005 and had just 7 per cent support in the most recent opinion poll. Their odds have been slashed from 100/1 to 33/1.




OH DEAR- I effin despise that weasel witch Curran -I want her humped rid raw, and of COURSE, I want an SNP victory, but why does that tumshie lantern faced buffoon always sicken me with his smug arrogance.

Truth is, the only comfort to me if Labour win as predicted will be the belly laugh I'll have at his next piece of spun keech. thumbdown.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 10:07:32
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jul 21 2008, 09:31 AM) [snapback]480861[/snapback]
FFS, what do you expect him to say? That Labour are going to win? You wouldn't get Davy Irons sending out a Morton team with a prediction that "we're going to lose". Even if he doesn't actually believe that the SNP is going to win this by-election, of course he is going to be positive. Oh, and have a look at the keech David Cairns is coming out with about the Labour vote holding up.

The fact of the matter is that unless Labour get a majority pretty close to their 13500 previous majority, they have lost. They may send that shrieking harridan Curran to Westminster, where she will be totally invisible, but in reality it looks like Labour have lost the battle whoever gets returned. They woud consider a one vote margin as a triumph in one of their safest seats.

Oh, and note how the incapacity benefit reforms are being held back until after the election, although as they have been leaked it may have an effect on the vote anyway. Typical Labour control freakery.

Well, not according to William Hill. He seems to think one vote will be enough to wipe the smirk of Bawheid's coupon.

.......and I DO agree with everything you say about Labour!
mortonjag 2008-07-21 10:09:21
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 21 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]480872[/snapback]
Genuine.

A genuine short arse?
mortonjag 2008-07-21 10:10:54
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Jul 21 2008, 09:04 AM) [snapback]480854[/snapback]
They were Geordies, renowned slappers, they were very attractive tho...and we shouldn't have taken a drag of the big self rolled cigarrette the barman gave us... smile.gif

One of the hotel staff served my bruvs boxers on a silver salver to him at breakfast, they found them in the pool that morning!



So he actually made a hash of it? mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 10:14:42
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Jul 21 2008, 09:56 AM) [snapback]480876[/snapback]
Our new man in charge is D.I
Caught hanging out Gillians pie
His arse Dougie reemed
As he read out the team
And mid table they all waved goodbye

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We once had a player named Cannie
(I'd rather have fielded my Granny)
He stayed in the job
By ramming his knob
Up Gillian Donaldson's fanny.
mortonjag 2008-07-21 10:21:08
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Jul 21 2008, 10:13 AM) [snapback]480884[/snapback]
A degree course a few f*nn**s on here could take and no doubt pass with distinction

Possibly! Fing has been working on a new laser nail gun which is so accurate it can ignite a match head from 500 metres.
mortonjag 2008-07-21 10:36:29
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 21 2008, 10:26 AM) [snapback]480895[/snapback]
It's a sad day when I can't motivate myself for a St Mirren game. 20 years following Morton and my enthusiasm for the club's at an all time low. sad.gif


Indeed-when the 'feel good factor' was there, I used to go to evening reserve games.Now the whole thing's become something of a penance at times.
mortonjag 2008-07-21 10:41:10
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 21 2008, 10:35 AM) [snapback]480905[/snapback]
Btw LAS did you notice their Gowns....colour looks very similar to a "non-real yooni" I felt. Don't you agree? wink.gif

I do hope you are not calling my children's integrity into question.

I will not-I REPEAT-WILL NOT have anybody question my children's integrity. This matter will not be resolved until I have met you face to face. Next you'll be calling them POUFFES I'd imagine. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 10:45:56
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 21 2008, 10:43 AM) [snapback]480920[/snapback]
I'm certain he was.
FIGHT !!! FIGHT !!! FIGHT !!! FIGHT !!! FIGHT !!!

He's just a jealous little man who can't cope with PROPER education, because he got some kind of jumped up counting award from the tech! angel.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 10:46:59
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jul 21 2008, 10:42 AM) [snapback]480919[/snapback]
He will probably have loads of visitors now, same as Big Blue Jugs. rolleyes.gif

She's been awfy quiet! huh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 11:08:05
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Jul 21 2008, 11:01 AM) [snapback]480944[/snapback]
It sure does, and the fact that there is no trim suggests that they graduated without honours...

Jealousy is such a sad attribute! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 13:54:28
QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Jul 21 2008, 12:02 PM) [snapback]480988[/snapback]
What is the point in this post? Just a waste of my retinas

Retinae.
mortonjag 2008-07-21 13:56:20
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jul 21 2008, 11:57 AM) [snapback]480983[/snapback]
Good concentration is one of the key qualities you need in a keeper.

Which is why I'm now having doubts!
mortonjag 2008-07-21 13:59:55
QUOTE(stubaws @ Jul 21 2008, 12:35 PM) [snapback]481014[/snapback]
im exactly the same, st mirren game is always around my birthday (today btw thumbup2.gif ) and i just cant be arsed with it at all this year. not been to any preseason, away on holiday for the first game and probably go on another holiday later in august so miss more games - unheard of as little as 3 years ago! the renfrewshire cup game now embarasses me coz i realise how far behind them we are currently. the lack of 'quality' signings after all the promises these past few years is really pissing me off now. i realise dundee have a bigger budget than us but even the signing of lauchlan on a one year deal could be a great piece of business, wheras we have harding and greacan on new 3 year deals with a hefty pay rise thumbdown.gif

Only one man to blame! ph34r.gif

QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 21 2008, 12:43 PM) [snapback]481016[/snapback]
Down to a tee how I feel, mate.

We should be competing with Dundee, not looking up at them in awe. dry.gif

EXACTLY.

Those who have staunchly supported Rae against all critisism, AND subjected wiser people to much abuse in the process, are progressively looking dafter and dafter! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 14:07:01
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 21 2008, 01:03 PM) [snapback]481036[/snapback]
yes but the amount of money they can make inside in the lounges etc dwarfs what we can make.

Their overall potential is dwarfed by ours. That makes the relative situations doubly sad.

I don't give a f*ck about St Mirren-I DON'T hate them because others say I should, and I don't love them either. I join in the jokes-it's good naughty fun, and that's all it should be IMO.

So good luck to the AIDS ravaged c*nts-let them get on with it. Maybe one day we will WILL achieve something too! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 14:12:08
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 21 2008, 12:46 PM) [snapback]481022[/snapback]
I'm moist at the prospect!

WHERE are the quality players we're getting to supplement our small squad? dry.gif

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QUOTE(Malt @ Jul 21 2008, 01:17 PM) [snapback]481048[/snapback]
Reid was part of the St Mirren team which won the first division and has played SPL with them and Hibs. He is a full back and experienced which a lot of fans were crying out for. Lets face it Dougie is not putting up the cash and spouts endless rubbish. i.e. going for quality blah blah.

Irons was the one who spoke about quality, but if others are to be believed he squandered his budget on ridiculously long contracts and wage hikes for mediocre players.

As I said, IF others are to be believed!
mortonjag 2008-07-21 14:18:23
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Jul 21 2008, 11:26 AM) [snapback]480970[/snapback]
It is indeed. If only I went to a proper uni rather than a polytechic- what would you say are the proper uni's in Scotland, see what they have on offer.

I'm afraid I'm having a little difficulty in understanding that piece of English prose-I DO get the drift, though.

If I wanted a qualification in a Mickey Mouse subject, I'd imagine I'd choose a Mickey Mouse University or College, and be entirely proud of my Mickey Mouse degree. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 14:40:55
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 21 2008, 02:26 PM) [snapback]481105[/snapback]
Fcking drifters the pair of them then blush.gif

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As I predicted the insulting behaviour is escalating. Within no time you'll be calling them POUFFES and I'll have you banned by the BIG MOD!

Anyway, my perfect children are still on a high after celebrating their massive achievement-they don't care about the comments of jealous little boys. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 14:55:02 Has anybody else come across MAW BROON'S COOKBOOK (published by D C Thomson)-it's highly entertaining and contains excellent traditional recipes.

I've scanned a page-----
mortonjag 2008-07-21 15:01:25
QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Jul 21 2008, 02:31 PM) [snapback]481109[/snapback]
No its retina, iv only got one big eye, like cyclops. My finger must have slipped to hit the 's' button when i was trying to press 'a'. Thats what only having one big eye does for you! Cheers for you input though, ya 2 eyed freakshow!


Oh dear-I hope I haven't offended you. Folk often get upset when I offer simple help and advice. 'Retinas' is perfectly acceptable-Mortonjag just prefers the 'proper term'.

With reference to your original post, I imagined that someone who could not understand mine probably wasn't that bright and wouldn't know about 'retinae'!


Always here to help. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 15:04:40
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 21 2008, 02:37 PM) [snapback]481119[/snapback]
FYI....
St Mirren never built their new stadium.

The deal with Tesco was that they'd give them X amount of cash for Love St and into the bargain TESCO would build them an SPL compliant stadium.

Originally this was going to be around the 12,000 mark however when the SPL reduced the seating rule to 6K Tesco reduced the stadium size to 8,400.

Didn't Ms. Alexander lend a little bit of honest assistance too? dry.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 15:12:05
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 21 2008, 02:44 PM) [snapback]481130[/snapback]
Absolutely none as you know.

I just feel there's a helluva lot of negativeness towards the team in general.

Did folk actually expect 9 victories coupled with excellent performances.

Remember this is the same bunch of guys who gave us all a thrilling victory at Firhill only a matter of weeks ago.

The serious stuff doesn't start for a couple of weeks yet and the friendlies have served their purpose, IE: Trying out formations and trialists.

I'm 100% behind DC/DI but by the sounds of things on this board most aren't and all they're doing is basing it on a few daft friendly performances.

I WAS 100% behind them until the last day or so. They are still inexperienced, and I believed they had to be given a chance with LIMITED resources. I suspected that DI's promise of 'a small squad of quality players' had been frustrated by the niggardly old Shooglemeister.

I accepted that DI was making the best of what he could-that his failure to sign 'key' players was indeed down to financial constraints.

Now we're being told that he squandered his budget on huge pay rises and daft contracts for mediocre existing squad members. If so, HELL MEND HIM-a fool and his money are easily parted.

I'd still love to believe that that is not the case.

mortonjag 2008-07-21 15:21:24
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 21 2008, 03:02 PM) [snapback]481146[/snapback]
Sorry Mrs Rogers ph34r.gif

'Your Majesty' if you please. Is there no limit to your youthful disrespect?
mortonjag 2008-07-21 15:26:06
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 21 2008, 02:56 PM) [snapback]481137[/snapback]
I doubt he will as calling a Monkey a pouffe won't exactly hurt it's feelings.

Now if he was to call your cute children, APES or CHIMPS, they would feel a lot more offended.

For the record I'm not calling them anything bar Monkey-Dalglish Mortonjag, and Fing Mortonjag blush.gif

They're quite happy with simple 'Munx and Fing'. Unlike some posters, they won't let their achievement go to their heads! blush.gif

QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jul 21 2008, 02:59 PM) [snapback]481143[/snapback]
Congratulations to both. The parents must be so proud.

Many thanks Weegie.

QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Jul 21 2008, 03:04 PM) [snapback]481150[/snapback]
I think your monkeys look very smart. smile.gif

Thank Your Majesty-you are gracious as ever. Fing wishes to point out that he is a 'Fing' (a string fing to be precise), and not a monkey like his big brother. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 15:28:45
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jul 21 2008, 03:07 PM) [snapback]481152[/snapback]
I think things have moved on from the days when Margo MacDonald was a youngster.

Labour have moved well to the right (indistinguishable from the "new" Tories IMHO) and the old Labour Party, which was a left wing party with control freak tendencies, no longer exists. Blair used the Labour Party for his own ends, and in doing so he has ensured its demise. It may come back some time but it will take many years to recover. The cracks can no longer be papered over. The vast majority of people now seem to want to give Labour a good kicking because they see how they have been milking the system. Corrupt doesn't bgin to describe it. No doubt the real reason for there even being an election in Glasgow East will come out soon - I note that the Scottish press are giving very little coverage to the pocket-lining that has been going on by the previous incumbent. Pity Glen Campbell didn't press Curran on that matter on the TV debate, although not surprising as he was as biased as a set of lawn bowls.

EXACTLY why I detest Bawheid.
mortonjag 2008-07-21 15:30:57
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 21 2008, 02:35 PM) [snapback]481116[/snapback]
This ok for you?

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDI hope your Mum doesn't know you took her fotie.
mortonjag 2008-07-21 16:01:31 I took this while on holiday in Copenhagen-three absolutely gorgeous swedes!
mortonjag 2008-07-21 16:04:19
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jul 21 2008, 03:52 PM) [snapback]481188[/snapback]
He got the idea from MJ after his confession.

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I never kill my lovers.
mortonjag 2008-07-21 16:06:40
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jul 21 2008, 03:30 PM) [snapback]481167[/snapback]
divinity? what sort of a pish subject is that. good luck to your thing in its future career in clowning.

I have never attempted to influence my children's choice of career. 'To each his own'!
mortonjag 2008-07-21 16:09:07
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 21 2008, 03:47 PM) [snapback]481184[/snapback]
Can't I just call her mum? wub.gif

No
mortonjag 2008-07-21 16:10:25
QUOTE(Deego @ Jul 21 2008, 04:01 PM) [snapback]481196[/snapback]
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Sorry, I have a habit of browsing through people's profiles for no reason. tongue.gif You should see how often I check out your Bebo though. wub.gif
No I can't.

He has a BEBO-Wow-I could cause havoc there! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 16:19:18 It's funny how a Manager's playing days often seem reflected in his perspective of the game. JM believed that a thousand midfield workhorses was all he needed. Now it looks like DI is concentrating on big strong defenders/midfielders while totally ignoring creativity, and 'making do' with Jimbo and Kev as ( laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif) 'wingers'. (Please don't mention anybody except Offiong if you want to make a valid point about worthwhile striker signings)

I've said already-we'll be hard to beat and pure KEECH to watch. I'm still confident of a mid table finish.
mortonjag 2008-07-21 16:24:41
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Jul 21 2008, 04:12 PM) [snapback]481206[/snapback]
I was just about to say something similar. Except I would have to have done this ph34r.gif after whatever I wrote...

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His first degree was in nuclear physics SpoonTon. I believe that in doing Divinity he was trying to come down to earth.
mortonjag 2008-07-21 16:27:56
QUOTE(Deego @ Jul 21 2008, 04:22 PM) [snapback]481210[/snapback]

HMM-Stranraer fans obviously USE their official website! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 16:30:14
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jul 21 2008, 04:27 PM) [snapback]481215[/snapback]
Naw biting, anyway my username is WeegieTon.

....and we all know about Willy Man's 'Tea' parties! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 16:31:31
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jul 21 2008, 04:29 PM) [snapback]481216[/snapback]
Hilarious.

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mortonjag 2008-07-21 18:21:49
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 21 2008, 06:15 PM) [snapback]481280[/snapback]
Can you explain ??

I've 'explained why' umpteen times before-I'm not saying he's inherently worse than any other prominent politician Spurtle-they're all in it for themselves-it's just that Bawheid is also a smug ugly unconvincing creature, in addition to the usual deviousness.
mortonjag 2008-07-21 18:33:43
QUOTE(Marshall_2oo7 @ Jul 21 2008, 06:23 PM) [snapback]481286[/snapback]
Thank god, a bit of positive thinking for a change!

Well here's a comment and you can tell me whether it's positive or not.

I think DI/DC are making a good job of the training and motivation. We are still SADLY lacking in creativity, having NO playmakers, and NO wingers. It is reported that DI blew his budget on daft wage increases and stupidly long contracts. In consequence, I believe we're in for another season of utterly gash football, but will still end up mid table.

I think that is an EXTREMELY NEGATIVE way to treat the paying customer-football's supposed to be about entertainment-NOT 'grinding out results'.
mortonjag 2008-07-21 19:35:25
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Jul 21 2008, 06:51 PM) [snapback]481299[/snapback]
Wrong mate - football is about winning... ask any manager worth his salt and he will tell you the first priority is to win the game.

Why should a manager's opinion count more than those who ultimately pay his wages?

QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jul 21 2008, 07:03 PM) [snapback]481303[/snapback]
Maybe, but precious few people are going to pay money to watch mind-numbingly boring mid-table football.
Frankly I'd rather we finished safely in 7th place and played decent football along the way, than achieving 3rd or 4th Rangers-style, at least it would be worth dragging yourself away from Jeff Stelling & co on the tv.
I sincerely hope there are moves behind the scenes to land a flair player of the McGowan variety even if it's just on loan, as there is bugger all in our squad to excite anyone, apart from Jim McAlister the odd time.

EXACTLY!

QUOTE(mccaff @ Jul 21 2008, 07:25 PM) [snapback]481313[/snapback]
forgive me if im wrong but morton are in the scottish first division, not la liga.

away n fcuk yrselves. i cant remember the last time i was entertained by the quality of football at cappielow. the entertainment comes from the result, or the goals at least.

Naw son-you go and f*ck yourself-I can remember the days when I couldn't WAIT for a Saturday to get to Cappielow.
mortonjag 2008-07-21 19:39:54
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Jul 21 2008, 06:49 PM) [snapback]481298[/snapback]
Yes. As it stands we don't have a striker capable of scoring more than 10 goals in a season in this league. Unless we get a striker capable of doing this then we will be in the relegation dogfight, regardless of how many wingers, full backs or keepers we have. Also we hardly need full backs playing 3-5-2.

I FUNDAMENTALLY disagree. That's one of the biggest myths at Cappielow right now. IMO every one of our strikers is capable of ten goals given a decent supply.

WHERE is that going to come from-long throw ins from Pantaloons, punts up the park, and the occasional well directed 'free' from Masterton.


WHAT ELSE! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 19:50:49
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 21 2008, 06:27 PM) [snapback]481289[/snapback]
In what way is he innit for himself ? I'm confused blink.gif

In the sense that he's an effin politician-he's not exactly St. bloody Francis of Assisi.

Let me put it this way-do you think sweet little Ms. Curran is 'in it' for the good people of Bridgeton, Barrowfield, Lilybank, and Parkhead, living-as she does- with her equally well heeled hubby in their Newlands mansion?

I really think it is YOU who has to explain in what way your hero is NOT in it for himself. How does he differ from the rest of the pond life which makes up politics? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 19:54:32
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 21 2008, 06:34 PM) [snapback]481294[/snapback]
Not even with kindness? ph34r.gif

Well there was that old goat up in Peterhead-horny as f*ck he was, and KEPT asking for more.
mortonjag 2008-07-21 19:56:24
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Jul 21 2008, 07:28 PM) [snapback]481315[/snapback]
my gran used to make
an exhibition of herself over in dunoon with those yanks, she was always willing an able to unload their pistols and would exchange her services for a wee glass o whiskey and a partially used bog roll as can be seen here....

[attachment=4211:laurelhardy7.jpg]

Was she the original Polaris shoe


An old sole with a Yankee upper?
mortonjag 2008-07-21 20:03:41
QUOTE(Caltonfan @ Jul 21 2008, 07:40 PM) [snapback]481321[/snapback]
football is about grinding out results, i would be quite happy if we grind out 1-0 wins all season and stay up if its boring so be it, the main point of the game is to win i really dont understand people who say they would be happy if we play decent football and lose rather than play boring and win.

With respect, that is a ludicrous comment. Football is about trying to score more goals than the opposition. In a commercial setting, doing that in an exciting and successful way brings in MONEY.

I would NOT be happy to see us playing brilliant attacking football and losing every match of the season.

Somehow, though, those two things just don't add up!
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mortonjag 2008-07-21 20:06:12
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Jul 21 2008, 07:51 PM) [snapback]481334[/snapback]
Where is the proof of that. None of our strikers have ever scored more than 10 goals in one season at this level.

Where is the PROOF of my opinion! blink.gif

Just take it from Mortonjag-he's right nine times out of ten anyway! angel.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 20:16:57
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 21 2008, 07:56 PM) [snapback]481345[/snapback]
You made the statement MJ, I think it's up to you to give an answer my genuine question.

Whether you do or not, is of course, entirely up to your good self.

I have asked you an equally genuine question. I don't play politician games on here. I've already answered mine!

Bawheid is a 'man on the make'-a self glorifying buffoon who has surrounded himself with inexperienced female satellites, an aged wife of convenience, and several 'bum chum' beneficiaries.

He doesn't give a f*ck about morals or principles so long as HIS party is in power. He'd exist comfortably within Maggie's old wrinkled hide-so detached is he from the REAL people. A very wealthy man whose only concession to the proleteriat is buying his hair shirts in Primark, and living in a semi detached wheelie bin up Arthur's Seat. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 20:22:41
C'MON LEAFY
mortonjag 2008-07-21 20:39:26
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 21 2008, 08:24 PM) [snapback]481381[/snapback]
i can see this turning into an online battle royale!

when truth be told, 99% of posters on here would rather have a chicken royale.

I'd rather have a chicken Kum Po.

QUOTE(BishyTON @ Jul 21 2008, 08:29 PM) [snapback]481391[/snapback]
Enough of the s***ty nicknames...

C'MON


PANTALOONS
mortonjag 2008-07-21 20:47:35
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 21 2008, 08:28 PM) [snapback]481390[/snapback]
You seemed to have formed an opinion of the man without any real evidence to back your claims up.

If Salmond was only in it for the money he could easily have joined Labour and made a very good living out of it without the hassle he has had to endure being in the unpopular (compared to Labour in Scotland) SNP for years upon years.
In fact the talented politician that Salmond is, he could have been Prime Minister had he chosen the Labour party.

So I disagree with you MJ, and for me, your argument doesn't have substance

I haven't presented any argument Spurtle. Bawheid's a power crazed pragmatist-his deeds are evidence to that FACT.

He'd always prefer to be top of the bottom rather than bottom of the top-that's why he stuck with HIS S.N.P. It's always had to be Bawheid's band of merry followers-that's the man's raison d'etre.

Oh, and talking of being top of the bottom-if you don't believe me, ask Sir Cliff, who apparently slips a bag over his head when Bawheid enters.
mortonjag 2008-07-21 20:52:24
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jul 21 2008, 08:50 PM) [snapback]481434[/snapback]
6-0 Russell

HAT TRICK TO LEAFY THE MAN WHO'S ALWAYS OFFSIDE AND CAN'T HIT A BARN DOOR FROM 10 YARDS C'MON
LEAFY



AND ANOTHER


C'MON LEAFY
mortonjag 2008-07-21 20:57:01
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Jul 21 2008, 08:55 PM) [snapback]481444[/snapback]
Well he is back at his level wink.gif

Aye and has scored three more that Newbs and Wakey! rolleyes.gif


C'MON LEAFY
mortonjag 2008-07-21 20:59:11
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jul 21 2008, 08:57 PM) [snapback]481448[/snapback]
Aye it's a measure of a 1st division pro when he scores a hat trick against Calton YMCA.

Take it Wakey and Newbs ain't trying! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


C'MON LEAFY-THE TWATS ARE ANGRY YOU'RE SCORING
!

I'm away out for incontinence knickers-stick another two in before I'm back son!
mortonjag 2008-07-21 21:02:03
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jul 21 2008, 09:01 PM) [snapback]481455[/snapback]
8-0

LEAFY?
mortonjag 2008-07-21 21:05:04
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Jul 21 2008, 09:01 PM) [snapback]481456[/snapback]
It's quite sad how you are still trying to get that nickname over. Almost as sad as nearly 22,200 posts of absolute crap.

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LEAFY LEAFY LEAFY LEAFY LEAFY

mortonjag 2008-07-21 21:05:57
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jul 21 2008, 09:02 PM) [snapback]481458[/snapback]
Stick him on ignore. Any worth reading, very rare I know, is usually quoted so you won't miss anything.

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mortonjag 2008-07-21 21:07:47
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Jul 21 2008, 09:05 PM) [snapback]481464[/snapback]
Done.

KEEK BO



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mortonjag 2008-07-21 21:08:35
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jul 21 2008, 09:03 PM) [snapback]481459[/snapback]
Not this time. Kevin

Who's he?
mortonjag 2008-07-21 21:10:11
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jul 21 2008, 09:06 PM) [snapback]481467[/snapback]
Nice colours., can we have more Pink though? wub.gif

SURE SURE SURE SURE SURE


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mortonjag 2008-07-21 21:12:42
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Jul 21 2008, 09:09 PM) [snapback]481472[/snapback]
is this the "MJ is being annoying thread"

NOPE_MORTONJAG'S CELEBRATING GOALS FROM LEAFY-OK WITH YOU GRUMPY?
mortonjag 2008-07-21 21:14:12
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jul 21 2008, 09:10 PM) [snapback]481474[/snapback]
That's every thread, unfortunately.

HEE HEE-You've got me on ignore!!!!! rolleyes.gif



AYE RIGHT-PRAT
mortonjag 2008-07-21 21:14:57
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Jul 21 2008, 09:13 PM) [snapback]481483[/snapback]
Far from it.... just fed up of all his pish posts that are ruining this forum. He is the most annoying poster I have ever encountered.

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mortonjag 2008-07-21 21:16:00
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jul 21 2008, 09:13 PM) [snapback]481485[/snapback]
You tell them MJ, nothing wrong with getting excited. ph34r.gif

They are the REAL children Mrs T-if only they could see themselves-pathetic little nobody's! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 21:17:11
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 21 2008, 09:15 PM) [snapback]481490[/snapback]
He's best kept on ignore. Maybe if everyone done that he'd go away.... dry.gif

You don't ignore Mortonjag darling-or have you just jumped ship to join the losers? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 21:19:44
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Jul 21 2008, 09:16 PM) [snapback]481492[/snapback]
You're missing the point ..... MJ is a smug git. laugh.gif laugh.gif

Mortonjag is an extremely humble professional gentleman.


C'MON LEAFY[


Get intae thae c*nts.
mortonjag 2008-07-21 21:21:54
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jul 21 2008, 09:19 PM) [snapback]481502[/snapback]
Difference being, there's proof that I exist. laugh.gif

Aye RIGHT JESUS-any more jokes?
mortonjag 2008-07-21 21:23:06
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 21 2008, 09:21 PM) [snapback]481505[/snapback]
To be fair, I've not got you on 'ignore' as such....just stopped taking notice of what you post. wink.gif

I always take notice of all posts, but that requires a massive intellect.
mortonjag 2008-07-21 21:25:46
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Jul 21 2008, 09:21 PM) [snapback]481506[/snapback]
Oh he exists alright ... just all mouth and trousers though. laugh.gif

Away and scratch your scrotum-you still don't believe Mortonjag's a doctor-well how does he know big words like 'scrotum', and bilateral epididymo-orchitis?


LEAFY'S A STAR


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mortonjag 2008-07-21 21:27:34
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jul 21 2008, 09:26 PM) [snapback]481516[/snapback]
Simple?

Yes-you are son! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 21:28:09
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jul 21 2008, 09:27 PM) [snapback]481520[/snapback]
Are you, shame. sad.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-21 21:29:43
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 21 2008, 09:27 PM) [snapback]481517[/snapback]
You have a massive intellect? unsure.gif


Nope-the Monkey does all the reading for me! laugh.gif
Wrong again MrsTON. rolleyes.gif (I think, anyway tongue.gif)

mortonjag 2008-07-21 22:09:04
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 21 2008, 09:34 PM) [snapback]481525[/snapback]
Rather than my having to scroll through MJ's usual self-aggrandasing, thread-wrecking exercise, can someone furnish me with the full time score?

IT WAS NINE NIL AND LEAFY SCORED FOUR

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QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 21 2008, 09:38 PM) [snapback]481529[/snapback]
He actually didn't do anything this time, he celebrated on of our players who he thinks is good that gets stick scoring 4 goals. Still gets shot down for being positive.

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QUOTE(BishyTON @ Jul 21 2008, 09:46 PM) [snapback]481534[/snapback]
He got shot down for continuing to use the worst nickname known to man.

You DO have a high opinion of yourself!

QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 21 2008, 09:51 PM) [snapback]481536[/snapback]
No more so than others posting pics of wrestlers etc. Match threads are always never anything to do with the match strangely.

Indeed-sad little men those Naitches and ThornTONs! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-21 22:20:45
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 21 2008, 09:00 PM) [snapback]481454[/snapback]
What deeds ? blink.gif

If there was any party in Scotland over the last 50 that guarenteed a long, safe, well paid career it was the Labour party.
Salmond chose the SNP as a young man and eventually became leader. The SNP Westminster seats were few and far between at the time. Strange career choice for someone "on the make"
As for Sir Cliff, that was Phoney Bliar holiday chum...... rolleyes.gif

OK Spurtle-I'm tired-I give in-Bawheid has been grossly misjudged-he is truly a self effacing soul whose only aim in life has been to free the humble Scottish peasant from the clutches of his Labour tyrant master. Selling Saltire flags on the street corner for a tanner, he was accidentally noticed by Moira the pure who, taking pity on his simplicity, taught him how to make a clootie dumpling. Bawheid's clootie dumplings soon became so popular that folk wanted him in politics, where all the dumplings go. The rest is history! Oh and Moira the pure dumpling baker taught him always how to make a good skin.
mortonjag 2008-07-21 22:40:11
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 21 2008, 10:28 PM) [snapback]481552[/snapback]
ok so it looks like I wont be getting my wish for no song when the players run out so I think this would be a decent shout.

run out song 2008-09

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mortonjag 2008-07-21 22:43:18
QUOTE(Deego @ Jul 21 2008, 10:39 PM) [snapback]481556[/snapback]
I just realised you weren't even talking to me, I feel like a fanny.




mortonjag 2008-07-21 22:49:56
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 21 2008, 10:45 PM) [snapback]481561[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-07-21 22:52:08
QUOTE(rawheed rex @ Jul 21 2008, 10:48 PM) [snapback]481562[/snapback]
30 over the hill 1eye.gif ok

Bloody hell Rexy boy-at that age they've still got milk teeth and bald fuds.
mortonjag 2008-07-21 22:53:26
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 21 2008, 10:50 PM) [snapback]481564[/snapback]
But he went to the polytech!!! ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

Well he shouldn't be arguing with people who have had the benefit of a proper education.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 08:51:41
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 22 2008, 01:00 AM) [snapback]481613[/snapback]
no takers?

They were in bed Alistair-why don't you try it-FULL TIME?
mortonjag 2008-07-22 08:54:44
QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Jul 21 2008, 11:38 PM) [snapback]481582[/snapback]
Im no arguing with you pops, just telling you im a mythical, cyclops-esq creature and therefore my spelling wasn't wrong! Nothing wrong with the old Polytech, landed a good job straight from Uni with my Risk Management degree.

Risk management sonny boy-well done-can you not persuade Auld Shoogly to give you a job-you might even persuade him that staying on for another season would be a definite death sentence for him! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-22 08:58:32
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 22 2008, 08:53 AM) [snapback]481647[/snapback]
With respect, that is rubbish. St Mirren do have greater competition from the old firm as they are nearer but I suspect the proportions going to Ibrox and Parkhead is little different from Inverclyde. The population of Paisley is circa 75000 whereas Greenock, Gourock and Port Glasgow collectively is 73,000. Both areas have similarly sized catchments with St Mirren looking to the likes of Bishopton, Erskine, Renfrew and us to the Argyll towns, Kilmacolm and Largs.

In recent history St Mirren have won the Scottish cup taking over 30,000 fans with them to that occasion and- in say the last thirty/forty years - they have been far, far more successful than us by any measure. Where we might once have been peers, they are now the bigger club and we have to face that.

We do not have far more potential than them we only have the potential to be similar to them!

With absolutely NO respect I was exaggerating for effect. Your assessment of the Ton's potential will NEVER equate to mine and I'm right. drink.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-22 09:01:09
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 22 2008, 06:46 AM) [snapback]481631[/snapback]
If you turn to page 2 in the Sun you will a photo of Nicola playing football for your scrapbook! smile.gif smile.gif ( well if curran and the heifer goldie can try a workout why not!!!!!!) smile.gif smile.gif

I certainly shall-Mortonjag buys the Sun every day for a look at the tits, and it will be fun seeing yet another.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 09:08:41
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 21 2008, 11:01 PM) [snapback]481570[/snapback]
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QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 21 2008, 11:24 PM) [snapback]481579[/snapback]
My sympathies lie with Arthur. He must be limping, if he can manage to walk at all.

Bawheid spends lots of time up Arthur's seat knitting his tartan shawls to be sold in 'Save the Children'. For the rest of the time he is a politician.

QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 22 2008, 08:46 AM) [snapback]481643[/snapback]
Aye. And Phoney Blair was once a member of CND. biggrin.gif
Eck was even expelled from the SNP for being a bit of a pinko, but they let him in again after a change of heart. Who's heart I wonder. He aint no lefty now, that's for sure.

Politician=chameleon/weasel or a weaseleon


RID HOT LEFTIE Jimmy Reid is the latest WEASELEON to join the Tartan Tories! dry.gif ph34r.gif


MARGARET CURRAN IS A C*NT
mortonjag 2008-07-22 09:13:35
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jul 22 2008, 07:04 AM) [snapback]481635[/snapback]
they are real and her name is shay laren. i found this out by goin to youtube and searching for 'jiggling titties'.

just call me sherlock

Well done Sherlock-did you also work out that her REAL name is Sharon? blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-22 09:21:31
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Jul 22 2008, 07:51 AM) [snapback]481639[/snapback]
A wee Finn called Rajamaki,

Was riding his new Kawasaki,

When the manky dug,

Gave him a chug,

For the promise of gettin a backy!



HA-a good old 'backy' -I haven't heard that term in years-or 'hudgie' for that matter!



In honour of LEAFY's outstanding performance last night


Our best striker's young LEAFY Russell
He's fit and he's fast and he's muscle
The secret is all
In releasing the ball
He ISN'T just hustle and bustle.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 09:31:00
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 22 2008, 12:48 AM) [snapback]481609[/snapback]
don't know what age i'd go to, but i've always wondered that when you're older do you find old women hot? and what constitutes as a hot old woman?
any help, MJ?

It's a matter of personal taste PT. One man's ride is another's punchbag. It's well documented that women peak sexually around forty (so my partner still has seven years to mature), and if by 'hot' you mean horny, have you ever seen the behaviour of middle aged women at a male strippers' club. They no longer fear pregnancy and want to make up for years of careful/less shagging. They are also bored stiff with the same fat old c*nt staggering in from the pub and demanding his 'rights', etc., etc.

Even a tall weedy looking man in his early twenties with a penchant for retired GP's arses, might be surprised by the sexual performance of the average fifty year old female! blush.gif

QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Jul 22 2008, 07:52 AM) [snapback]481640[/snapback]
Has it got a pulse? blush.gif

Does it matter? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-22 10:54:12
QUOTE(centralTON @ Jul 22 2008, 10:37 AM) [snapback]481687[/snapback]
Paddy, geez a break..... I'm only 45. laugh.gif

Put faces to most of the usernames in the "Exiles" team and a finer bunch of guys you'd be hard pushed to find.

Am I right in thinking Jock is "AJC" ? Couldnae quite work that out mate.

Agree about Viking, always read his posts with interest, then he turns up for the football and sits in the corner saying nothing. I eventually had to ask him which one of us he was. Once he got over the initial shock, he came out of his shell, the "voddy oranges" and the carry-out may have helped. laugh.gif

I christened the young Viking SPARROT because of his inveterate penchant for plagiarising big books in an attempt to look wise and important.

I've always thought he was a nice inoffensive wee soul at heart!
mortonjag 2008-07-22 11:02:39
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 22 2008, 09:06 AM) [snapback]481655[/snapback]
Try an upmarket rag my friend, colour picture available in the Scotsman no less! happy.gif

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I've just seen the photo in the Sun-don't EVER tell me that's a woman-look at the body language-she'd put Julie Fleeting to shame-PLUS her big handlebar moustache! I'm certain wee Nickerless has tartan baws.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 11:05:16
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 22 2008, 09:13 AM) [snapback]481659[/snapback]
He has not joined 'Goldies Guff' squad , even entering his docile years 'no bevvying' would never stoop so low! wink.gif

I DO hope you're not referring to my Auntie Annabel-one of the few Scottish M.P.'s who comes over as sincere, though she's probably just flier than the rest. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-22 11:09:13
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 22 2008, 09:33 AM) [snapback]481669[/snapback]
It's a matter of personal taste PT. One man's ride is another's punchbag. It's well documented that women peak sexually around forty (so my partner still has seven years to mature), and if by 'hot' you mean horny, have you ever seen the behaviour of middle aged women at a male strippers' club. They no longer fear pregnancy and want to make up for years of careful/less shagging. They are also bored stiff with the same fat old c*nt staggering in from the pub and demanding his 'rights', etc., etc.

Even a tall weedy looking man in his early twenties with a penchant for retired GP's arses, might be surprised by the sexual performance of the average fifty year old female! blush.gif
Does it matter? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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As long as its still warm eh????? tongue.gif

I pop down to my cellar at night with the excuse that I'm just off to slip into something cooler.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 11:16:44
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Jul 22 2008, 10:33 AM) [snapback]481685[/snapback]
I remember a striker,Big Sugar,

Who would pounce on the ball like a cougar,

But from near or from far,

It went over the bar,

Sometimes I wished for a Luger!

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Old players-well we HAVE to do-----

The 'oldies' recall our 'Big Andy'
His corners and free kicks were dandy
For half of the year
He'd just disappear
But sometimes he sure came in handy.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 11:18:33 I've never met the arsehole.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 11:28:45
QUOTE(Muz @ Jul 22 2008, 11:27 AM) [snapback]481720[/snapback]
Good lookin boy eh? Not bad player as well, very quiet on the pitch smile.gif

Donga was playing for us- had WHITE boots on smile.gif

Only person I have found out on here was Roger Mellie- didnt know that was him

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mortonjag 2008-07-22 11:33:06
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jul 22 2008, 11:21 AM) [snapback]481718[/snapback]
He is obviously not listening to you then. wink.gif

The little wimp listens to nobody, Mrs T. He's one of those arrogant young fuds who inevitably has to learn the hard way.

A true 'know it all', if ever I've come across one. Apparently he was battered on the head a while back, but it didn't knock any sense into him! mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-22 14:39:36
QUOTE(Muz @ Jul 22 2008, 12:07 PM) [snapback]481747[/snapback]
Christ- I actually laughed at one of the posts from you

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mortonjag 2008-07-22 14:54:27 What an utterly ridiculous question! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-22 14:56:51
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 22 2008, 01:29 PM) [snapback]481786[/snapback]
Nope. 11am to 6am. You can join on your first visit as long as you have some form of ID. Great place to go to finish off a night out and by the time you leave the massive taxi queues have gone.

It's a great place to socialise if you're not a compulsive gambler and hate loud intrusive music.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 15:00:18
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Jul 22 2008, 11:35 AM) [snapback]481726[/snapback]
ph34r.gif harsh?



Not nearly as harsh as the things he says about Mortonjag, and anyway, I'm telling the truth. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-22 15:03:07
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 22 2008, 03:00 PM) [snapback]481834[/snapback]
Stranraer V Morton by all accounts

Dammit-I thought I was finished with that HORRIBLE journey-well horrible unless the weather's nice!
mortonjag 2008-07-22 15:05:11
QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Jul 22 2008, 11:50 AM) [snapback]481734[/snapback]
I know we were playing against absolute s***e last night but it looks like Russell could well force his way into the starting line up just as it was starting to look that Wake and Newby would be the front pairing.

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mortonjag 2008-07-22 15:05:52
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Jul 22 2008, 12:17 PM) [snapback]481751[/snapback]
Sorry, it was Wake who scored.

Half time now 2-1 to them.

Adam
Cousin
Wake for us.

DAMMIT! mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-22 15:08:38
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Jul 22 2008, 08:27 AM) [snapback]481642[/snapback]
Slammers

Slappers
mortonjag 2008-07-22 15:10:24
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Jul 22 2008, 03:03 PM) [snapback]481838[/snapback]
Aye, and if they were smart they would keep themselves cool by finding themselves a nice big ocean instead of rolling about in their own s***.

There is bugger all intelligent about frolicking around in your own excrement.

Try telling Bawheid that.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 15:33:46
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 22 2008, 03:28 PM) [snapback]481865[/snapback]
That explains everything!!!!! mellow.gif

Would you like a guided tour of my cellar?
mortonjag 2008-07-22 15:36:20
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 22 2008, 03:25 PM) [snapback]481863[/snapback]
I stress to add that I mean knowing of her by her addressing conferences and meetings I also attended! cool.gif

Look-just trust the Jag-unless you've had her clothes off her you don't really know what Jag knows!
mortonjag 2008-07-22 15:38:04
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jul 22 2008, 03:15 PM) [snapback]481852[/snapback]
Dolphins are smart enough to know you can have sex for pleasure.
Was that what it told you? laugh.gif
Case dismissed.



It told you it was ENJOYABLE! unsure.gif

QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 22 2008, 03:34 PM) [snapback]481874[/snapback]
Ive never known our leader to frolic in excrement! smile.gif

I was using a little licence!
mortonjag 2008-07-22 15:54:33
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Jul 22 2008, 03:37 PM) [snapback]481877[/snapback]
ohmy.gif blink.gif does she have 1 undecended testicle?



With facial hair like that she obviously has hypertrophic testes! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-22 15:58:16
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 22 2008, 03:22 PM) [snapback]481858[/snapback]

DOESN'T SCORE TAP INS BIG WAKEY



Wakey and Leafy


What a combo! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-22 15:59:48 OK then-here's another-


Which is smarter, a goat or a kangaroo?
mortonjag 2008-07-22 17:07:50
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jul 22 2008, 04:54 PM) [snapback]481906[/snapback]
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The reason behind Dougie's incoherent ramblings? A £200 a day crack habit?

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Surely GD's not that expensive!
mortonjag 2008-07-22 17:28:42
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 22 2008, 05:15 PM) [snapback]481920[/snapback]
He sold me a very decent PC cheaply.

Good guy says I!

Not a very proper one though.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 19:49:12 OH WELL-Mortonjag, the Board's most negative poster sees no reason to change his prediction of 5th.

Having said that, I think other fans will hate watching us almost as much as we'll get bored with 'non event' football.

I'm still totally bemused by stories of huge wage hikes and long contracts for existing players-especially with DI being blamed for 'blowing his budget'.

So far nobody has denied those stories, and if true, they show DI up as utterly wet behind the ears.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 19:52:07
QUOTE(marxist_ton @ Jul 22 2008, 05:47 PM) [snapback]481934[/snapback]
Don't know if this has been mentioned elsewhere, but in the article he said that Celtic are crap except McGeady and that Kirk Broadfoot's a "big dumpling."

Fantastic laugh.gif

Oh well-Jimbo presumably knows all about dumplings. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-22 19:54:08 Morton 1 Midden 0



LEAFY
mortonjag 2008-07-22 20:01:04
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 22 2008, 05:15 PM) [snapback]481919[/snapback]
But gay with who? Merry and Pippin obviously dealt with each others One Rings. And Sam got married!

My bets on Gandalf wink.gif

I'm assuming you've read every Harry Potter too! dry.gif

QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 22 2008, 06:56 PM) [snapback]481974[/snapback]
indeed, no option to vote for mortonjag, which would have made the original question all the more enjoyable biggrin.gif

It was an utterly ridiculous question Alistair-back to bed with you.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 20:03:40
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 22 2008, 07:09 PM) [snapback]481992[/snapback]
only to be undertaken by those who have attended proper institutions, and only then, using proper blood

Really Alistair-and how does one use 'proper blood' in sphygmomanometry? wacko.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-22 20:08:54
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 22 2008, 11:12 AM) [snapback]481711[/snapback]
What about me, I think I look better.

Your willie's hanging out the bottom.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 20:14:55 Gary Ball Player.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 20:17:16
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jul 22 2008, 08:14 PM) [snapback]482091[/snapback]
As far as I know you have no more pics of me, so I'll do as I damn well please! laugh.gif

And bebo pics are well below the belt, I'll pure fall out with you if you manage to get a hold of one!

You sound ashamed of your picture young man-I'd say you are much more handsome than the tall J*m*e, but doubt if you can match up to his knob sooking talents. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-22 20:18:57
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jul 22 2008, 08:15 PM) [snapback]482093[/snapback]
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Kevin Byers and Barry Sellars could do equally well!
mortonjag 2008-07-22 20:20:12
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 22 2008, 08:06 PM) [snapback]482078[/snapback]
Its amazing how serious people treat statements when there isn't a patronising smiley next to it. rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-22 20:23:15 Just thought I'd put joogly jugs back to the top! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-22 20:25:48
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 22 2008, 08:22 PM) [snapback]482102[/snapback]
well that was a backhanded compliment if ever i've seen one! the wrinkles on your face are matched only by the ones on your bollocks!

I've just had my wrinkles botoxed darling-you'll hardly know it's me next time. In fact you won't even need to bring the bag, with the mouth hole.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 20:39:41
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 22 2008, 08:32 PM) [snapback]482115[/snapback]
Boring.

Care to sook an old man's knob avec ou sans sac?
mortonjag 2008-07-22 20:41:14
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 22 2008, 06:49 PM) [snapback]481964[/snapback]
so you keep saying laugh.gif

Incorrect Alistair.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 20:42:11
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 22 2008, 08:41 PM) [snapback]482125[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-07-22 20:42:52
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 22 2008, 08:40 PM) [snapback]482123[/snapback]
I'll pass.

Bawbag!
mortonjag 2008-07-22 20:44:20
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 22 2008, 08:32 PM) [snapback]482114[/snapback]
I lost my voice. laugh.gif
Other than that suprisingly good for major exercise and a wine night. ph34r.gif

Did they smuggle you in?
mortonjag 2008-07-22 20:45:29
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 22 2008, 08:43 PM) [snapback]482130[/snapback]
Ask Royal Mail rolleyes.gif

Will they know?
mortonjag 2008-07-22 20:48:04 The forum's becoming dull. We need more jobby pictures.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 20:50:23
QUOTE(marxist_ton @ Jul 22 2008, 08:46 PM) [snapback]482137[/snapback]
And a dry one at that

I've seen many a weeping scrotum sonny boy.

QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 22 2008, 08:47 PM) [snapback]482139[/snapback]
Again no thanks.

Your loss!
mortonjag 2008-07-22 20:52:01
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jul 22 2008, 08:49 PM) [snapback]482143[/snapback]
Your looking in the wrong forum. ph34r.gif

Oh goodness-I thought I had logged on to 'Coprophilia Weekly'!
mortonjag 2008-07-22 20:53:24
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jul 22 2008, 08:50 PM) [snapback]482145[/snapback]
Ah. rolleyes.gif Think you will be bored out of your tits.

Watching the good folks of Glasgow's orient can be utterly fascinating Mrs T-mind boggling at times!
mortonjag 2008-07-22 20:54:44
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 22 2008, 08:52 PM) [snapback]482147[/snapback]
Who shall gain?

Profundity!
mortonjag 2008-07-22 20:55:46
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jul 22 2008, 08:53 PM) [snapback]482149[/snapback]
Looks like you have been moved. rolleyes.gif

Indeed, it's no time since I came out.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 20:57:17
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 22 2008, 08:46 PM) [snapback]482138[/snapback]
Yes, in a kitbag. blush.gif

Did Andy have a quick shag while you were inside?
mortonjag 2008-07-22 21:02:23
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Jul 22 2008, 08:56 PM) [snapback]482152[/snapback]
I honestly appreciate constructive criticism and hope I've responed to your points to your satisfaction...

A serious suggestion, Mr I.N Verally-could we not raise the tone a little by playing something classical?

I was thinking that a few bars of Handel's water music might do very well as a 'run out' tune. I'm sure Mr Rae would approve.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 21:04:46 Willy Man and necrophilia come together like strawberies and cream.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 21:58:27
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 22 2008, 09:05 PM) [snapback]482164[/snapback]
I don't know. I was in a bag.

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mortonjag 2008-07-22 22:04:05
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 22 2008, 09:46 PM) [snapback]482181[/snapback]
Auntie? Your Niece more like. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 22 2008, 10:00 PM) [snapback]482191[/snapback]
so why don't you stand, C*NT

I beg your pardon Alistair!
mortonjag 2008-07-22 22:06:09
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jul 22 2008, 10:00 PM) [snapback]482195[/snapback]
Thornton/Salty is a good guy, always friendly and affable when I bump into him. His internet personna is somewhat different but it's just a personna.

Persona, or no persona, he's a wee keech.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 22:07:51
QUOTE(Sonic-Dynamo @ Jul 22 2008, 10:05 PM) [snapback]482202[/snapback]
He played really well against Hartlepool,as i think most people thought,and I was quite surprised the other day in the papers that we appeared to have lost interest in him. He looked solid an composed against a side that were marginally better than us,similar to a mid-table first division side. I thought he would have been a fairly good signing but obviously Irons thought differently-or somebody else has got there first.

Why would we EVER sign a central defender right now. There are far greater priorities. I too thought he looked good.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 22:09:51
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 22 2008, 05:15 PM) [snapback]481921[/snapback]
i heard it was MJ finally going to clear the air with Dougie, or pop a cap in his ass.

Shoogly and I have an excellent understanding, young man!
mortonjag 2008-07-22 22:11:39
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 22 2008, 10:07 PM) [snapback]482206[/snapback]
so why don't you stand, C*NT?

apologies, i missed out the question mark

That's better-now off to bed with you.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 22:12:24
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 22 2008, 10:09 PM) [snapback]482211[/snapback]
although you do apparently believe in a 'higher power' biggrin.gif

I do indeed.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 22:15:06
QUOTE(Toby @ Jul 22 2008, 10:11 PM) [snapback]482215[/snapback]
Because Greacen and Harding are f***ing dumplings.

Shimmin is better than what we've got at the moment.

I don't think they're as bad as some make out, but I CAN'T understand daft wage rises and long contracts for mediocre players.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 22:16:27
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 22 2008, 10:11 PM) [snapback]482213[/snapback]
both gaga

If you say so Alistair.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 22:17:56
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 22 2008, 10:14 PM) [snapback]482219[/snapback]
not before you answer the question, darling

Which question, Alistair?
mortonjag 2008-07-22 22:19:19
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 22 2008, 10:18 PM) [snapback]482226[/snapback]
i do tongue.gif

The Shooglyphiles will get you.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 22:22:25
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 22 2008, 10:20 PM) [snapback]482232[/snapback]
pah, what do you know about football?

you'll be wanting to stop music when a goal's scored next sad.gif

Alistair-you've had too much to drink again. Off to bed with you.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 22:24:50
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 22 2008, 10:23 PM) [snapback]482234[/snapback]
On paper, Partick look better than us, the only problem they have is without Buchanan they can't score. The problem we have is we have no one who can score.

blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-22 22:25:56
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 22 2008, 10:24 PM) [snapback]482235[/snapback]
your language is quaint, earthling

I have plans for your anus.
mortonjag 2008-07-22 22:26:57
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 22 2008, 10:25 PM) [snapback]482237[/snapback]
sorry, i forgot about Leafy.

You mean


LEAFY
mortonjag 2008-07-22 22:29:17
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 22 2008, 10:27 PM) [snapback]482240[/snapback]
so why don't you stand, C*NT?

that question, darling

I stand every day Alistair-I have a knob to be envied-so large indeed that it is more than a fill for the average mouth.

Yours-HMM thumbdown.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-22 22:42:24
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 22 2008, 10:31 PM) [snapback]482246[/snapback]
you are dodging the question, little man

I'm under no obligation to answer your questions Alistair.

BTW, have you stopped beating your boyfriend?
mortonjag 2008-07-22 22:44:06
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 22 2008, 10:35 PM) [snapback]482250[/snapback]
not a multi-storey car-park i hope ohmy.gif

No, no, just a size twelve Toetector. bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-22 22:45:46
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jul 22 2008, 10:28 PM) [snapback]482243[/snapback]
Remarkable how much he and you are alike laugh.gif

Are you comparing Mortonjag to a jobby?
mortonjag 2008-07-22 22:49:21
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 22 2008, 10:47 PM) [snapback]482261[/snapback]
feeble response, if i may say so sad.gif

I note you have failed to answer my question. Goodnight.
mortonjag 2008-07-23 06:59:47
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 13 2008, 08:43 PM) [snapback]476750[/snapback]
its funny, everytime i see that this thread has been added to the last post is always by you, always seems like you must be havin a conversation with yourself. Thought age had finally caught up with you sad.gif

IT'S MY thread-so there! shutup.gif

Anyway, do you think the current feelings of togetherness and optimism, fostered fastidiously by our fatherly Chairman, will get a boost from Mr Donald's presence at Saturday's Renfrewshire Cup Final.

He must be bursting with excitement as the first competitive game approaches, and more importantly, he's BACK IN THE COUNTRY, and the huns don't have a match, so he'll be able to fully indulge his lifelong passion for the Ton.

He'll also be able to hand over his answer to the Trust's question in person as he clearly dislikes other forms of correspondence. Indeed, he may even speak to Jim McColl, if he has a clue who the f*ck he is! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-23 07:11:55
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 22 2008, 11:39 PM) [snapback]482312[/snapback]
well to be fair, he'd be better off having a career as a magicians assistant.

I hope he has more success than Gillian Donaldson.
mortonjag 2008-07-23 07:14:31
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 23 2008, 12:08 AM) [snapback]482327[/snapback]
Head to head we had the measure of Thistle last season. They got 8 points more than us and the basic difference was their results against Livvy. They took 10 from them and we took 2. Now we were poor last year but we saved our very worst results for Livvy to the extent that they were a bit freakish. I can't see that being repeated.

Against the rest of the league our performance was comparable.

We have strengthened and we will not be easy to beat this year. I just don't see us losing in the way we did in games like Clyde at Cappielow. I don't see Thistle having strengthened to anything like the same degree and unless Buchanan comes back as good as new, its not obvious where their goals are coming from.

It's conceivable that we'll do well enough by Christmas to see promotion as a possibility, and somebody will finally cough up during the transfer window.

It COULD be such an exciting season-the fans deserve better.
mortonjag 2008-07-23 07:18:29


QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jul 23 2008, 12:06 AM) [snapback]482325[/snapback]
I also watched this game. He didn't really have much time to impress but I'd have him back at Cappielow in a heartbeat - even if we paid the transfer fee I said was outrageous last year. sad.gif
It was definitely Jim Duffy.



So would I-the ideal player to compliment our strikers and big boy midfield.
mortonjag 2008-07-23 07:20:11
QUOTE(centralTON @ Jul 22 2008, 11:42 PM) [snapback]482317[/snapback]
My boy and his Falkirk supporting pals went to the Falkirk v Ross County game tonight. He assures me that they are a pretty decent team and that Gardyne had a great game, though he may have been looking out for him. it was 2-2 in case anyone is interested.

Gardyne has the makings of a good player. I don't know why he was 'rubbished' so much when he left us, having hardly got a chance to play.

Some folk just need to 'put the boot in'! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-23 07:26:47
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 22 2008, 10:59 PM) [snapback]482277[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

mortonjag runs for cover ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

look darling, even someone with only three undergraduate degrees from a provincial university should understand elementary logic.

so why don't you stand, C*NT?

mellow.gif

Early to bed, and early to rise makes a man healthy, wealthy, and wise Alistair. I will now answer your question. Nominations are closed.

Will you please now answer mine?
mortonjag 2008-07-23 07:30:04
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 22 2008, 11:10 PM) [snapback]482278[/snapback]
i'm sorry, could you repeat your whole sentence in latin, please?

Ad praesens ova cras pullis sunt meliora dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-23 07:31:52
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jul 23 2008, 12:30 AM) [snapback]482331[/snapback]
It has to be dolphins as they don't give you speeding tickets

The cooncil's working on it-some effin EEC directive!
mortonjag 2008-07-23 07:35:26
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jul 22 2008, 11:29 PM) [snapback]482298[/snapback]
Hmm, this caused a fair bit of controversy when it was released - apparently most of the recipes are heart attacks waiting to happen!

laugh.gif


And the loudest protesters were the fast food industry! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-23 07:38:54
QUOTE(dmc @ Jul 23 2008, 12:32 AM) [snapback]482332[/snapback]
Stop it you're killing me!!
Oh my goodness you're just soooo funny!! mellow.gif

58 YEAR OLD WOMAN GETS HUMPED IN TURKEY




mortonjag 2008-07-23 07:40:50
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 23 2008, 12:37 AM) [snapback]482334[/snapback]
I did start my working life off in an Undertakers dry.gif
Sometimes you have to jump into the crash box and make sure they're rigid rolleyes.gif

Making a living from the dead!
mortonjag 2008-07-23 07:42:16
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jul 23 2008, 03:06 AM) [snapback]482372[/snapback]
I ate dog meat when I was a kid. Beat that.

It's nothing to be ashamed of. As kids we were thrilled when Mum stopped buying Chappie and moved up to Pal.
mortonjag 2008-07-23 07:54:06
QUOTE(Muz @ Jul 22 2008, 11:13 PM) [snapback]482282[/snapback]
That's f***ing out of order.



QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jul 23 2008, 01:50 AM) [snapback]482358[/snapback]
Agreed - MortonJag, that was in a bit of poor taste, even for this forum. A real shame for the guy.
Nice lad, but a weapon on here smile.gif



QUOTE(Toby @ Jul 23 2008, 01:55 AM) [snapback]482362[/snapback]
Agreed, f***ing disgraceful thing to say.



QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jul 23 2008, 01:57 AM) [snapback]482363[/snapback]
Have to agree MJ, wee bit OTT there im affraid huh.gif




Listen guys, I said absolutely nothing offensive on the basis that I was NOT privy to his personal details any more than he's privy to mine. I thought he'd fully recovered from his injuries long ago.

Some of you need to take a long hard look at yourselves before casting the first stone. I've been regularly subjected to unwarranted abuse by the young gentleman-from LONG before his injury, and I NEVER attack him on the forum-I only defend.

Somebody started this thread asking for opinions-clearly a bit tongue in cheek-I made a light hearted comment about the head bump 'not having knocked sense into him', and


WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSH blink.gif


I've had a p.m. this morning from a poster who's had the decency, wisdom, and dignity to fill me in on some details, and in future I'll shy clear of this topic.

Port ton's comments are also noted with interest! laugh.gif


QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jul 23 2008, 03:27 AM) [snapback]482376[/snapback]
I'll take a strike for that no probs.

Perhaps MJ doesn't know the extent of the incident and its repercussions, but he should really think before trying to get a cheap laugh or something.

Hey Dong-the Jessie Boys are SUPPOSED to get cheap laughs. Would you like me to start a discourse on the complications of palliative radiotherapy?
mortonjag 2008-07-23 07:58:11
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 23 2008, 01:03 AM) [snapback]482345[/snapback]
Right we've all had them but what is your most embarrassing / hellish one ??
I took one today on the train to Glasgow and still feel like s*** as I'm typing this !!!
I thought it'd pass and I'd feel better by lunchtime as TBH I didn't have a lot to drink last night as I was aware I had an interview today. Not sure what the hell happened to make me take one.
When we reached Glasgow I couldn't get off the seat as after the cold sweats etc I got pins n needles throughout my whole body and started to shake. Even a sugar filled cuppa at work, instead of my usual Swetex, didn't really help matters.
It brought back flooding memories of when I was 18 and took one on a train going to Pishley.

I had been out till about 3am and was rat arsed but had to get up at 6am to go to work.
The train was mobbed and roasting. I was standing in the aisle and not feeling good at all and the next thing I know I've collapsed and was being carted off the train on a stretcher !!!

Doctor at the RAH gave me one helluva lecture about Brekky being the most important meal of the day and that my idea of a buttered Digestive didn't quite fit the plan. He made me drink a very sweet cup of tea and would only release me into the care of one of my work colleagues.
What exactly causes them is it something to do with your blood sugar levels ??

Hey Willy Man-I thought I'd heard every slang expression under the sun, but WTF's a 'Whitie'?


Must surely be an Inverclyde term.
mortonjag 2008-07-23 08:01:37
QUOTE(longboat @ Jul 23 2008, 07:50 AM) [snapback]482400[/snapback]
I see a top four finish.

Last year we had our fair share of draws and were not that easy to beat (all the time). We have beefed up the defence, so we will have a good against record. If they don't score against us as often, it makes the goals needed less and more achieveable.

Now it just depends on the quality of our strikers. (If that is stating the bleeding obvious I apologise in advance).

This is becoming a common statement.

Our strikers will do just dandy if they are supplied efficiently. We're only three players short of a VERY exciting team, but it always seems to be the same those days! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-23 08:24:06
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Jul 23 2008, 08:10 AM) [snapback]482405[/snapback]
Agreed.

Wee Gowser would make all the difference to our team and would give us something to get excited about. I obv can't speak for everyone but the wee man was worth the entrance money alone when on song.

C'mon Dougie, you can't be over your spend fetish despite the counselling so go and make an idiotic six figure swoop for Gowser please! biggrin.gif




Ah, but does he still know the code for the Golden Casket lock? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-23 08:27:58
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 23 2008, 07:32 AM) [snapback]482394[/snapback]
Whats wrong with her hair do , no wait a minute its terrible!

I was more referring to her obvious 'tache'. If Wee Nickerless hasn't got baws, Bawheid's an Englishman.
mortonjag 2008-07-23 08:37:12
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 23 2008, 12:13 AM) [snapback]482329[/snapback]
I hate this kind of tie. Its a real hiding to nothing game and a potential banana skin.

I wish we could get a decent run in one of the cups ideally with a quarter or semi or even final against one of the old squirm. Just to get some money in the coffers for once. Surely we are about due one?

Indeed-I've been thoroughly sickened by our apparent lack of interest and mediocre performances in Cup Ties for several seasons.

The stock response has always been-'thank f*ck that distraction's out of the road-now we can concentrate on the league'!

Just look at the income generated last season by the Doonhamers and the Jags. We could have bought several 'quality' players with that kind of money. dry.gif

Moreover, it's long past time Morton were perceived as another 'wee' club.

Are we on the brink of something better or is it just going to be 'more of the same'?
mortonjag 2008-07-23 09:00:16
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 23 2008, 08:31 AM) [snapback]482411[/snapback]
I was more referring to her obvious 'tache'. If Wee Nickerless hasn't got baws, Bawheid's an Englishman.
[/quote
laugh.gif She must have a tache then!

Nichol Anthony Sturgeon-a transexual wannabe politician known affectionately as Nicola.
mortonjag 2008-07-23 09:01:34
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Jul 23 2008, 08:48 AM) [snapback]482417[/snapback]
I remember Broadfoot playing in the RC Final at Scappa 2 years ago and he was absolutely mince. Gawd only knows how he went on to play in a UEFA Cup Final! blink.gif

Maybe there's still hope for Superkev!
mortonjag 2008-07-23 09:02:55 I'm sure the skunks will be very happy with their new SPL stadium, and don't give a toss what their poor neighbours think!
mortonjag 2008-07-23 09:06:00
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 23 2008, 08:43 AM) [snapback]482415[/snapback]
Would you like a guided tour of my cellar?
[/quot
No I will decline your kind invitation thanks! laugh.gif

I will ply you with some excellent wine before I kill you-it will be very humane.
mortonjag 2008-07-23 09:11:42
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 23 2008, 08:39 AM) [snapback]482414[/snapback]
Hey Willy Man-I thought I'd heard every slang expression under the sun, but WTF's a 'Whitie'?
Must surely be an Inverclyde term.
[/quote
its not, you have led a sheltered life wink.gif

I'm feeling like a troglodyte this morning.

QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jul 23 2008, 09:00 AM) [snapback]482427[/snapback]
Normally refers to an overdose of Cannabis resulting in the unfortunate going 'White', pucking up and generally becoming a jelly. This is a general term widely used.

laugh.gif

Mortonjag has never involved himself in the soft drug culture!
mortonjag 2008-07-23 09:14:50
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 23 2008, 08:36 AM) [snapback]482412[/snapback]
I wish you well tomorrow and hope you will counting SNP votes in very large numbers! smile.gif

CURRAN'S A C*NT
mortonjag 2008-07-23 09:16:19
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 23 2008, 08:51 AM) [snapback]482420[/snapback]
I'm liking you more every day. blush.gif
[/quote
That will soon wear off! smile.gif

I may invite Her Majesty to inspect my cellar.
mortonjag 2008-07-23 09:19:09 HAPPY BIRTHDAY! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-23 10:12:24
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 23 2008, 09:42 AM) [snapback]482442[/snapback]
This is Mortonjag and his true love ?

NOPE it's two POUFFES

mortonjag 2008-07-23 10:13:16
QUOTE(Alibi @ Jul 23 2008, 09:51 AM) [snapback]482446[/snapback]
Ally Scott? What age is he? Must be nearly 60 as he was at Glagow Uni at the same time as me but a few years ahead, must be not far off 60.

59
mortonjag 2008-07-23 10:21:45
QUOTE(Muz @ Jul 23 2008, 09:42 AM) [snapback]482441[/snapback]
You didnt say head bump- you said "battered on the head", which is completely different.

As someone who's been close to someone that's been in the same position, I find the comment utterly offensive, light hearted or not, as I know the problems, issues that being involved in something like this can bring. It's no f***ing laughing matter.

I was kinda mellowiing towards you of late, but this has brought me back to the opinion that I had before.

You of all people should know better, and Alan deserves an apology at the least.



If you have a complaint I suggest you take it up with the Moderators. I have clearly explained my position, and have asked the poster who p.m.'d me to extend my good wishes to ThornTON.

I really can't be arsed with myopic clots like yourself who don't understand plain English. You've seen the results of a head injury-well WHOOPY F*CKIN' DOO. May I remind you that I'm a retired medical practitioner, and I DON'T need lectures from self satisfied young prats.

Would you like me to start taking offence to every post you make about Mortonjag sonny, because I wouldn't be short of ammunition?

Grow up or f*ck off. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-23 10:36:26
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 23 2008, 10:27 AM) [snapback]482469[/snapback]
As I've already said, I know skunks who already really dislike the stadium and agree with my sentiments that it is a soulless lego-land effort.

Really! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-23 12:47:14
QUOTE(Muz @ Jul 23 2008, 10:49 AM) [snapback]482481[/snapback]
I know you are a retired medical practioner, which is why I said YOU OF ALL PEOPLE SHOULD KNOW BETTER, so who doesnt understand plain english now ya self righteous, senile auld c***!!!!!

Self Satisfied? Explain please....explain also why I dont understand plain english?

Sonny? That kind of patter sums you up.

Do keep referring to me as young though, I like that.

I'll let you off with that since you know nothing about any physical/psychological illness I may be suffering from! rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(Toby @ Jul 23 2008, 12:22 PM) [snapback]482532[/snapback]
You've attracted abuse with your controversial views. Not saying I don't agree with all of them but if you want to go about saying some of the stuff you've said in the last wee while you're going to get folk's backs up as you well know. You're obviously a clever guy, so don't paint a picture of yourself as some poor, innocent little bully victim when we all know that's far from the whole story.

As for saying that we're supposed to be getting cheap laughs on this board, possibly so, I don't mind a bit of humour that sails pretty close to the wind or some stuff that is downright offensive, after all, I'm about as PC as Bernard Manning, but if that's the sort of stuff we find funny I'm not really interested in being a member of this forum.
Call me a self satisfied young prat all you want, I'm someone that wouldn't take things up with a mod about you nor am I one that comes on here giving you grief when more often than not it's courted by your self obsession and attention seeking.

Actually restores my faith in my own faults to see someone who is older and more qualified than myself acting like a spoilt child because he's been dug up about something he deserves stick for.

Take your own advice and grow up.
As above, the reason he gets the most abuse on here is because he laps it up. Capitanus posted a while ago about how this board is now more about one self obsessed old man than about Morton, I can see where he's coming from. Threads like "Would you shag mortonjag?" only go to prove how obsessed with himself, over and above every other issue, mortonjag is.

You clearly did NOT read, or chose to ignore the Moderator's post. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-23 12:49:41
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jul 23 2008, 12:47 PM) [snapback]482541[/snapback]
Watch yourself, or you will have the jolly smells of the roses gang tell you all is wonderful in scappa land ph34r.gif

Oh don't worry Gibby-I'm not getting nearly enough abuse this weather! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-23 12:52:30
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 23 2008, 11:41 AM) [snapback]482516[/snapback]
Who said the old rascal was a gentleman??????? laugh.gif

I am convinced he has a thing about wee nicky! smile.gif

I'm thoroughly attracted to her-if only I could make up my mind from which angle to approach him.
mortonjag 2008-07-23 13:08:55
QUOTE(Toby @ Jul 23 2008, 12:51 PM) [snapback]482544[/snapback]
The moderator's post was in relation to talking about Salty. I, on the other hand am picking faults in your self obsession and attention seeking.

I could have sworn you were harking back to the original comment prior to my p.m. this morning, when you YET AGAIN, called my post and motives in question.

Furthermore I believe the Moderator should be seeking an independent medical report on my psychological state before allowing any further accusations of self obsession and attention seeking.

I am very close to someone whose life has been ravaged by his chronically insecure and obsessive/compulsive personality, and frankly find your 'rubbishing' of a well known clinical condition entirely misplaced.

Indeed, I believe you should extend an open apology to all such affected souls for your wantonly associating them with Mortonjag.

It might be an idea to oblige all posters to provide a full medical history on registration in order to avoid offence.
mortonjag 2008-07-23 13:23:18
QUOTE(stubaws @ Jul 23 2008, 01:12 PM) [snapback]482559[/snapback]
god largston you are taking this pre-season pretty bad aint you!?!?! i think 5th is very achievable if we have continuity in team selection and tactics. dundee and st johnstone should be miles ahead of the rest with queens building on last year and also dunfermline being an unspectacular 4th. 5th for us would be solid progress from last season. partick were awful last year, im very scepticle of the new livi regime and surely to god we will be too strong for clyde and airdrie. i actually think ross county could also be very comfortable midtable finishers so i'll go for 5th or 6th place for us so long as our starting 11 stays settled and we dont have any JM style 'tactical' changes
2 wingers and a striker? a winger, attacking mid and a striker? goalkeeper, full back, winger?

If I could choose I'd have a quality goalie, a quality midfield playmaker, and a quality winger (probably right sided).
mortonjag 2008-07-23 13:29:31
QUOTE(BMC @ Jul 23 2008, 11:03 AM) [snapback]482486[/snapback]
There once was a striker named Peter,
who's goals could not have been sweeter,
for his waist we did fear,
as he drank lots of beer,
now he's stuck at the back as a sweeper!




Poor Spoonsy is misunderstood
Some posters are viciously rude
For many a day
he's attended AA
And now he's just fond of his food.
mortonjag 2008-07-23 13:33:54
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Jul 23 2008, 01:01 PM) [snapback]482552[/snapback]
I know who he is and can vouch for him, as can a number of other posters on here. Therefore I let him in.

I bloody well hope you've informed him about my medical problems!
mortonjag 2008-07-23 13:39:26
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Jul 23 2008, 01:31 PM) [snapback]482569[/snapback]
what !! so theres a new rule then... dont slag my mate/mates ?? ffs there is a lot of people out there who have or know someone very close to them who have either an illness or dissability, are you going to take ALL these peoples feelings into consideration... ffs I have been offended by some of the things said by people on this forum, but as per the rules you either except it or you dont use the forum... I'm sure everyone knows MJ was joking, so now jokes about mentally disabled people / muslims etc are ok , but dont joke about my mate ????

TY, warrior-I was equally sure of that, and I wouldn't have posted it on the BIG MOD forum in any case.

This forum was incepted BECAUSE of the behaviour of sensitive souls-NOT to accommodate them! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-23 13:42:31
QUOTE(Toby @ Jul 23 2008, 01:40 PM) [snapback]482574[/snapback]
Ah, right. So I'm the one that's out of order for saying that you were wrong to make fun of what happened there? Dress this up whatever way you want mj, and use other people's disorders in whatever way you please if it makes you feel you're beating me on something, your professional background obviously ensures you know far more on such issues than myself.

However, that does not escape from the fact that you are a self obessed, attention seeking egomaniac, in the DDFR variety almost. Too often reasoned, sensible debate on here is destroyed by your contribution and you than try and turn it round to make yourself look like a victim when you know fine well you're loving every second of it.

Intelligent man you may be, pity you chose to channel your intelligence in a manner as to excuse you for acting like a spoilt brat.

I notice that you continue to ignore the possibility that I may be suffering from a clinical condition which accounts for my behaviour! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-23 13:52:53
QUOTE(Toby @ Jul 23 2008, 01:49 PM) [snapback]482578[/snapback]
Because I don't believe you are, and find it quite pathetic that a guy would try to put doubts in my mind about a mythical condition he might have to turn the tables on a matter he's clearly in the wrong over. If you were I wouldn't mock it though, my sense of humour doesnt extend to laughing at people with physical/ mental disabilities or being caught in unfortunate situations which can affect them for the rest of their lives. Your's clearly does.

HA-and therein lies the crux of this whole ridiculous debate. What Mortonjag sincerely believed when he originally posted is being deliberately ignored by a shower of wee boys with only one aim-to put the boot into Mortonjag.
mortonjag 2008-07-23 14:30:42
QUOTE(Toby @ Jul 23 2008, 01:58 PM) [snapback]482581[/snapback]
Aye, that's right. My intention was to put the boot into you. Have you actually read any of my posts in the last few years? I've probably been your biggest defender on this board. My issue with this is that you found someone "putting the boot in" to be something of comedy value whilst one of my mates really suffered.

But yeh, let's just assume it was all down to everyone else wanting to put the boot into you. What was I saying about self obsession?

Your issue is that you CHOOSE to interpret it that way. The Moderator has already commented on the true nature of what has happened, and you continue to 'put the boot in'.

Oh, and this self obsession thing-unless I'm not very much mistaken, you're not exactly coy about craving a wee bit of attention yourself! laugh.gif

QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jul 23 2008, 02:06 PM) [snapback]482586[/snapback]
Now your taking the piss MJ.

Sorry, but over the past few months ive read your posts and never said a word against them my friend. I thought you were OTT a bit with the comment you made, you obviously did know what the score was with ThornTon or the comment would never have been made in the first place huh.gif

But i really do think you are at the Michael ( sorry for bringing a name into this ) for that bold comment !!!!

And thats not me puting the boot in rolleyes.gif

Anyway, on the subject of the Salty poufe, where is he these days blush.gif

What seems obvious to you Gibby may not in fact be the case! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-23 14:34:45
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 23 2008, 02:05 PM) [snapback]482585[/snapback]
He was indeed.

Pity that Bawheid wanted no meaning action taken against him when he was committing mayhem in 1999.

Even McWhirter, the nats' cheerleader in the Herald knew that.

Clicky

Alex Salmond believes the Nato action to be "unpardonable folly". Thus has the SNP leader elected to join the oddball coalition of the Daily Telegraph, Alan Clark, Tony Benn and the Socialist Workers' Party which regards the bombing of Serbia as a kind of imperialist act!

Straight as a die this Mr Salmond chappie.
mortonjag 2008-07-23 14:37:03
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jul 23 2008, 02:31 PM) [snapback]482595[/snapback]
I thought this was The Jesse Ventura Tobacco Chewing Forum where anything goes.

I've suffered serious head injuries (plural because I have lost count) in my life but if someone wants to take the c*** out of me for that on here feel free. It is the no holes barred forum is it not?

HA Barbie-but will your friends see it that way-oh-and did those bumps knock any sense into you? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-23 14:43:04
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 23 2008, 02:38 PM) [snapback]482603[/snapback]
Be brave , go for it man! laugh.gif

Spurtle would be awfy jealous though.

Where is the good chap-is he out East trying to persuade the intelligentsia of Barrowfield that Mason's not really a Hun? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-23 14:46:02
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jul 23 2008, 02:42 PM) [snapback]482605[/snapback]
My friends do and have frequently taken the piss and I am big and ugly enough to speak for myself.

Did the bumps knock any sense into me? Nope.

Really-some folk are so terribly insensitive. I've often had the piss taken out of me too regarding my psychological condition! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-24 09:12:25
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 23 2008, 03:36 PM) [snapback]482635[/snapback]
My thoughts are that you're trying to justify it to yourself after enduring a morning of passive aggression from your significant other over your decision not to go.

Your thoughts are unsurprising, Smegma.
mortonjag 2008-07-24 09:21:52
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 23 2008, 06:27 PM) [snapback]482767[/snapback]
Dougie's a lad who likes the odd tipple
Also, a poke,a chug and a sook at a nipple
Some say he's over the hill, but he's banging the lovely big Gill
In positions that gives him a thrill

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif Classic, Spurtle!

QUOTE(forza ton @ Jul 23 2008, 07:44 PM) [snapback]482784[/snapback]
there's a poster on here who's a doctor
when his mother gave birth they all mocked her
what had just slithered out
of her big hairy clout
made her query the species that c***ed her



mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif


How the f*ck do you expect me to rhyme anything with 'forza'? laugh.gif


An arrogant knob titled forza
Said 'Doc I don't know where my baws are'
He looked, then he paused,
Saying 'you have NO baws
But your tadger's a thick as a hawser'.
mortonjag 2008-07-24 10:19:36
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Jul 24 2008, 09:42 AM) [snapback]483038[/snapback]
An auld cynic they call MortonJag
Wore a gimp mask and black leather gag
Bent right over a wall
Took Rae’s c***, balls ‘n’ all
And pushed back till his bum it did sag.



A poophie DJ, InverAlly
'Came out' after one massive swally
And dressed in pink tutu
He said, 'I'll shag you too
Provided you come to my ballet'.
mortonjag 2008-07-24 10:29:54
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 23 2008, 03:38 PM) [snapback]482638[/snapback]
Would'nt it be great if there was a facility to filter out all posts than contained a smiley or larger than normal size font!



OH, YES ALMIGHTY ONE-YOU'D LOVE THAT WOULDN'T YOU?



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mortonjag 2008-07-24 10:42:01 I haven't noticed much negativity to be honest, nor much of the crazy 'positivity' we had this time last year when over 75% of our clever little posters had 'TOTAL CONFIDENCE' in J.M.'s ability!

I don't see many worried about relegation, and nobody seems to see promotion as a prospect this year-I think that's pretty realistic.

I feel positive about a fifth (or so) finish, and very negative about the manner in which it will be achieved. mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-24 10:46:10
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jul 23 2008, 04:50 PM) [snapback]482736[/snapback]
It was actually more of a discussion than an argument.

Anyway, thanks to all who voted, I thought it was a dolphin too so I won, ha ha.

It was an utterly ridiculous question, but playing the same game-which is more intelligent-a box of matches or an ounce of pus?

I'm not going to start a silly wee boys' poll to prove I've won, but I do know the correct answer-AS ALWAYS! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-24 11:29:33 I don't think that being a pouffe is a 'disability' as such, but I still wonder if we should be so quick to laugh at them.

Pouffes come in all shapes and sizes-some are more 'in your face' than others, but like it or not, pouffes are part of the fabric of our society, and I feel we ought to accept that graciously.

Many pouffes take a leathering just because it suits those who like to keep them underfoot, but a bashed pouffe may spring back, and they are NOT all just big softies.

C'mon the



POUFFES
mortonjag 2008-07-24 12:31:05
QUOTE(Mr.Kennedy @ Jul 24 2008, 12:26 PM) [snapback]483077[/snapback]
We gonna play that game then? Fair do's...

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDI see no evidence of a pouffe in that picture!
mortonjag 2008-07-24 12:36:01
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 24 2008, 11:47 AM) [snapback]483067[/snapback]
please clarify your question, MortonJag.

How many matches in the box ?

Are any of them struck ?

Trust you to attempt to gain an unfair advantage-OK- it's a standard box of matches-it is full, and none of the matches has been used and replaced.

The ounce of pus came from a large carbuncle on the penis of a seven month old Liverpudlian horny toad, and was carefully drained through pure muslin before being weighed.
mortonjag 2008-07-24 12:38:05
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Jul 24 2008, 12:17 PM) [snapback]483075[/snapback]
see in the papers etc...see when the state a name a Judge as Mr Justice Eady or Mr Justice Wilkie etc... what the f*** is that aw about?

Max Mosley is a deviant laugh.gif his stories have gave me a giggle in the last few months, guttin that its now over hahahaha

Care to define the relative norm?
mortonjag 2008-07-24 12:44:09
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jul 23 2008, 11:04 PM) [snapback]482911[/snapback]
Could work, if I find a way to grow 5 inches. laugh.gif

Just make do with the two you have son-some birds ain't too choosy.
mortonjag 2008-07-24 12:45:29
QUOTE(Mr.Kennedy @ Jul 24 2008, 12:41 PM) [snapback]483083[/snapback]
Who needs evidence? tongue.gif

Is that a brown Chesterfield?
mortonjag 2008-07-24 12:46:31
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 24 2008, 12:45 PM) [snapback]483086[/snapback]
Found it

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDI still see no definite evidence of a pouffe!
mortonjag 2008-07-24 12:56:03
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 24 2008, 12:48 PM) [snapback]483090[/snapback]
Why 7 moths and a horny toad from Liverpool ?

Liverpool, Engerlund

or Liverpool, New South Wales ?

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QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 24 2008, 12:50 PM) [snapback]483092[/snapback]
I was concerned that if the matches had been struck they would never be very bright.

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QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 24 2008, 12:51 PM) [snapback]483093[/snapback]
Or

Liverpool, Illinois
Liverpool, New York
Liverpool, Pennsylvania
Liverpool, Texas
Liverpool, Nova Scotia
and
Liverpool, Costa Rica
WE NEED MORE INFORMATION!!!!

Liverpool, Great Britain, and his name was Mephistopheles. Unfortunately he did not survive the operation.
mortonjag 2008-07-24 12:58:53
QUOTE(Mr.Kennedy @ Jul 24 2008, 12:57 PM) [snapback]483098[/snapback]
How about this one?

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDNope-you're just not finding true pouffes!
mortonjag 2008-07-24 13:10:17
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Jul 24 2008, 01:04 PM) [snapback]483106[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDSIR Elton is a gay musician!
mortonjag 2008-07-24 13:13:33
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 24 2008, 01:03 PM) [snapback]483104[/snapback]
whitish-yellow pus ?

bluish pus ?

a sign of pseudomonas aeruginosa ?

brownish pus ?

blink.gif

The pus aspirated from the horny toad's tool was light amber. Cultures indicated a mixed growth with a predominance of yeasts and non specific staphylococci.
mortonjag 2008-07-24 13:18:13
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Jul 24 2008, 01:12 PM) [snapback]483117[/snapback]
see when its two women is it lesbyterian?

Judyism I'd guess.
mortonjag 2008-07-24 13:24:26 I'm kinda hopin' some ladies will be invited. I'm sure 'on the piss' would enjoy herself, while 'Her Majesty' could lounge on a deck chair looking serene. Mrs T would certainly blend in with the boys too.

As for the teenage lassies-I think perhaps no!
mortonjag 2008-07-24 13:28:53
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jul 24 2008, 01:18 PM) [snapback]483120[/snapback]
Tut !Tut !! Doctor what sort of prognosis is that ??

Surely we should await the immortal wisdom of our chairman beore daring to comment on the seasons fortunes .

I for one don't wish to be accused of never being happier than when having a good old moan or that we all should be held in comparison with the loyal Celtic supporters singing their hearts out at the San Siro .

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I'm just bursting to read the first 'Shoogly Peg' two pager of the new season!

Any predictions?

'Today we face our old Renfrewshire rivals from Paisley in what promises to be a stirring and absorbing encounter'! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-24 13:40:38 Everything's died down. I guess that's it sold! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-24 13:54:46
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jul 24 2008, 01:52 PM) [snapback]483137[/snapback]
Would rather some Fairy gave me full head than have a full head of hair blink.gif

CHRISSIBOI OUTED!
mortonjag 2008-07-24 13:57:35
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jul 24 2008, 01:43 PM) [snapback]483132[/snapback]
There's at least 4 of us. Me and you, Iainmorton, and one other whose username I can't remember off the top of my head.

Oh aye and the guy selling his flat of course which makes 5.

Mr Bam (though he'll claim it's East Renfrewshire)-Briggston-greacen-guy from Broomhill-whiteman-an probably hunners more!

OH AYE-and the BIG MOD! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-24 14:08:56
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jul 24 2008, 02:04 PM) [snapback]483148[/snapback]
SSsssssshhhhooossshhh what I do in the privacy of the public toilets is between me and the vicar . wub.gif

'The Vicar' indeed-has port-ton been doing his post coital bible readings again?
mortonjag 2008-07-24 15:55:02
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Jul 23 2008, 10:48 AM) [snapback]482480[/snapback]
Our first competitive game isn't on Saturday, it's a week on Saturday.

The Renfrewshire Cup is a competition-however 'diddy'!
mortonjag 2008-07-24 15:59:30 Sponsorship brings in much needed cash. If an outside sponsor would bring in more cash than from Golden Casket-there is NO excuse.
mortonjag 2008-07-24 16:09:01
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 24 2008, 02:55 PM) [snapback]483182[/snapback]
Damned right I'm not a weegie. mad.gif

Born in Renfrewshire and to my mind still living there.

Everybody knows the Mearns is part of GLESCA!


G bloody 77! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-24 16:12:58
QUOTE(Malt @ Jul 24 2008, 04:07 PM) [snapback]483229[/snapback]
The question is, is Dougie knocking back outside sponsorship to use Morton as a PR tool for his Sugar and Spice and all things nice firm?

The answer is probably 'yes', and also he ain't pursuing outside sponsorship.
mortonjag 2008-07-24 16:15:02
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jul 24 2008, 02:41 PM) [snapback]483168[/snapback]
Anything else I can think of would be the obvious stuff like a sponsored walk, etc.

Speaking of which I will give the hospice £1, to a maximum of £100, for every day MortonJag doesn't mention the names "Shoogly" or "Leafy"

Put it in writing to Vader and once he's confirmed you're on! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-24 19:54:56
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 24 2008, 05:08 PM) [snapback]483276[/snapback]
I agree, as soon as every single player in our team has the ball they have no idea what they're going to do with it next.

That's a wee bit unfair-- Kev always has a good idea that he's about to lose it.
mortonjag 2008-07-24 19:58:23
QUOTE(LauraMcB @ Jul 24 2008, 02:22 AM) [snapback]483001[/snapback]
Horrible, horrible draw.

I'm almost glad I've got a cast-iron excuse (stuck in work til 5) otherwise I might have been tempted to do something daft, like go along.

It's not so much the distance to Stranraer, but the fact that so much of the journey is along s***ey wee roads. With road signs that only indicate the next s***ey wee village along.
I'm sure Gretna was (is?) further, but it's motorway almost all the way, and consequently a relatively painless drive.

Add to that the fact that Stranraer are a team we'll be expected to beat, and you've got all the ingredients for a turgid, nay pish, game of fitba, with a disappointing result and an unpleasant drive home

ph34r.gif

laugh.gif

Grinding out results has become something of a raison d'etre for the Ton! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-24 20:07:29
QUOTE(Malt @ Jul 24 2008, 04:17 PM) [snapback]483239[/snapback]
Still not had Fudgy Wudgy as a sponsor. Next season's Third Kit sponsor I suspect!



QUOTE(morethanagame @ Jul 24 2008, 04:31 PM) [snapback]483252[/snapback]
I am at a loss as to how much benefit there is in sponsoring a football shirt.
I am sure it is a very subtle tactic that lures me into purchasing products that I don't really need but I have never watched a football match and thought I must buy some of those sweets, or some of that brand of lager, or I must change my mobile phone provider ! Unfortunately the same applies to the more worthy logos. When was the last time you watched Barcelona play and then sent some money to UNICEF. The good thing about Barcelona and now Aston Villa is that they actually pay money to UNICEF and ACORNS for the privilege of wearing their logo. Well done Airdrie for promoting St Andrews Hospice as presumably Airdrie are missing out on some potential income from else where.

With regard to Morton. Its Dougie Raes call. I am not on the inside or have the inside knowledge that a lot of posters claim to have but I can understand why Dougie puts his logos on Morton shirts however I like the idea of a "raffle" so any of us could win the chance to have our companies, names or a charity on the shirt.

sub·lim·i·nal
–adjective Psychology.
existing or operating below the threshold of consciousness; being or employing stimuli insufficiently intense to produce a discrete sensation but often being or designed to be intense enough to influence the mental processes or the behavior of the individual: a subliminal stimulus; subliminal advertising.

QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jul 24 2008, 05:51 PM) [snapback]483295[/snapback]
Tricky situation this if you ask me. Obviously we don't know if other businesses have offered to sponsor our shirts, and if they have how much they have offered, but what we need to remember is that if Golden Casket continue to run at a profit then we'll never be in financial problems. If that means increasing their awareness around the country by having their brands on our shirts then is that not surely a positive thing, regardless of how it looks?

We DO, according to at least one reliable source.

QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 24 2008, 05:51 PM) [snapback]483296[/snapback]
Golden Casket subsidise Morton to the tune of 100s of thousands per annum. I don't think its a lot to ask that they have their logo on our strips which they pay for over and above coughing up for our losses.

Whether people like it aesthetically is another matter and one for individual choice. Me, I would not wear a replica top I was paid to do so but I do use other Morton clothes such as the jumper and sports shirt with the club badge embroidered on it.

Perhaps not, but if we could make more by using outside sponsorship we should. Any accountant will explain to you that there's no place for sentiment in business.
mortonjag 2008-07-24 20:13:55
QUOTE(Mags @ Jul 24 2008, 08:09 PM) [snapback]483341[/snapback]
Not sure how much money was involved,but I remember reading or hearing that a few companies were approached about sponsorship,T-Mobile included,but Golden Casket were in a position to offer a better deal for the club. That,and the fact that Golden Casket's profits cover our losses every year is good enough reason for me.
The 'Millions' logo is more instantly recognisable than 'Golden Casket'. They're on sale everywhere now,even in the USA
so it makes more sense to use it.
Anyway,it's only a name,the most important thing for me on a strip is the badge,if it's got the Morton badge then i'd buy it biggrin.gif

Mags.

Mags-that's a huge myth.-GC's marketing is haphazard so that you WILL find Millions in some outlandish places. The product is NOT, however, distributed evenly, and in many areas of Scotland they've never heard of 'Millons'.

Golden Casket is a tiny confectionery company with 49 employees.

I await the usual crap from the usual culprits! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-24 20:18:06
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 23 2008, 11:16 AM) [snapback]482501[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDIt's not so much to do with prettiness as tittiness Your Majesty.
mortonjag 2008-07-24 20:21:20
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 24 2008, 08:16 PM) [snapback]483348[/snapback]
Golden Casket gets a tax rebate because Morton makes a loss and DDFR donates that money to the club


Shoogly gets a tax rebate because Shoogly makes a loss and Shoogly donates that to Shoogly. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-24 20:26:55
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 24 2008, 05:11 PM) [snapback]483281[/snapback]
On that basis Greenock is part of Pishley.
PA15. blink.gif

The Mearns was, is, and always will be a suburb of Glesca. Greenock is a post code suburb of Paisley.

QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jul 24 2008, 08:13 PM) [snapback]483344[/snapback]
whiteman was the guy I was thinking of. Imagine forgettng him, sorry pal, no offence blush.gif

Mr McB is in East Renfrewshire so disnae count.

My FAVOURITE OF ALL poster Real Hoops comes from Kilmacolm AND Shawlands-no less!
mortonjag 2008-07-24 20:32:12
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jul 24 2008, 08:23 PM) [snapback]483358[/snapback]
Quality over quantity rolleyes.gif

So will the pope allow increased consumption of Quorn as an alternative to proddy socks blink.gif

There's much more to life than sperm counts and androgens, though some recent anti Jag posting might suggest the opposite! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-24 20:38:08
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jul 24 2008, 05:55 PM) [snapback]483299[/snapback]
Following discussions on VaderTon's thread on sponsorship ideas for Cowal Hospice I will be giving �1 to the cause for every day MortonJag doesn't say "Shoogly" or "Leafy" on the board, starting August 1st, to a maximum of �100 which means if he can keep it shut until Saturday 8th November then I'm out of pocket but I wont need to put up with two daft nicknames for a few months and it all goes to a good cause. If anyone else fancies joining in (doesn't need to be a pound) shove yer name down.

Also, MJ, no changing nicknames and starting to refer to Russell as "Branchy" or something like that.



The reason it starts on August 1st is that RSBH will be out of jail by then!

I have this uncomfortable feeling that the rules are already being bent (no other nicknames like 'branchy') laugh.gif , but once I have written confirmation of the details from yourself and Vader, I'll do my very, very,very best not to use the words 'Shoogly' or 'LEAFY' for 100 days.

Smegma will be angry at this self aggrandisement, mind you! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-24 20:44:46
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 24 2008, 05:09 PM) [snapback]483278[/snapback]
But are they accurate?


No
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 24 2008, 05:24 PM) [snapback]483289[/snapback]
Ooooh...you got a nickname!


Yes
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 24 2008, 06:45 PM) [snapback]483321[/snapback]
This is my third or fourth, I think.

No

Smegma is the first term of affection I have bestowed on you.
mortonjag 2008-07-24 20:47:03
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 24 2008, 04:41 PM) [snapback]483262[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDMore titty pics from Puggs-is he trying to prove something?
mortonjag 2008-07-24 20:51:06
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jul 24 2008, 08:16 PM) [snapback]483346[/snapback]
For f***s Sake - I go away for a week and I canae trust you lot with anything.
Boozie - I'm delighted for you - one week flying solo and you go all biscuit arsed on us - magic - just need to get myself some popcorn and sit back for the rest of this show.

TonInDublin

ps everybody else - don't be so f***ing precious. A comment was made - it was made innocently enough in the absence of some detail - when the detail was forthcoming an apology was made. Get over it. I'm sure the two guys involved will. And just for the record, this next statement applies to all you ramptons on here, not just any people mentioned on this thread - if you want to run with the hares on here, and are comfortable dishing s***e out left, right and centre - then you better be fierce comfortable taking it back - you can't have it both ways. That is all.

pps No, I wouldn't shag MJ.

Was it such a bitter experience darling? wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-24 20:52:17
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jul 24 2008, 08:42 PM) [snapback]483378[/snapback]
Singe them off with a lit fag - works for me.

REALLY? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-24 20:56:33
QUOTE(Mags @ Jul 24 2008, 08:28 PM) [snapback]483364[/snapback]
Both parties benefit ....where's the harm in that ?
I wouldn't call Spain,Portugal,Canary Islands,Balearics etc 'outlandish places'

The company even had a prime advertising spot during The Simpsons...hardly haphazard rolleyes.gif but as I said,the name isn't important as long as the club benefit from it.

Mags.

Well nobody's heard of them in Warrington, Redcar, or Poolewe! laugh.gif

QUOTE(Mags @ Jul 24 2008, 08:29 PM) [snapback]483367[/snapback]
Long live Shoogly.... laugh.gif laugh.gif
Mags.

Indeed-LONG LIVE SHOOGLY TILL AUGUST 1ST
mortonjag 2008-07-24 20:57:57
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jul 24 2008, 08:56 PM) [snapback]483392[/snapback]
Aye. Dog ends just aren't up to it.

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My partner loves pulling them out with tweezers (well that's what he calls them).
mortonjag 2008-07-24 21:02:08
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 23 2008, 10:26 AM) [snapback]482468[/snapback]
Some view!!!!

With a decent pair of binoculars he could watch them shagging in Kilcreggan-much better than the empty can to the wall Hyndland technique!
mortonjag 2008-07-24 21:04:36
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 24 2008, 08:59 PM) [snapback]483395[/snapback]
Is his name Port-ton?

No-no-port-ton's my knob sooker-and a fine knob sooker at that-my partner's older, and more erudite.
mortonjag 2008-07-24 21:06:47
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jul 24 2008, 08:22 PM) [snapback]483356[/snapback]
She just had a baby a short time ago, might explain the voluptuous bosoms. unsure.gif

You make big tits sound so ethereal.
mortonjag 2008-07-24 21:11:31
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jul 24 2008, 09:06 PM) [snapback]483399[/snapback]
No "Shoogly", no "Leafy" and no making up new nicknames to replace them smile.gif

Also, if you last 50 days, per se, you should chuck in the rest so it's an even £100 they get regardless smile.gif

HEY YOU-if you REALLY think I'm going to describe Shoogly as 'Mr Rae' for 100 days this becomes difficult! LEAFY can become Ian Russell-that's fine. laugh.gif

It's your 100 quid and I'm up for it, but if we're doing it properly the rules will have to be sanctioned by a third party and publicised-otherwise you know what will happen! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-24 21:22:13 Dear Dr Mortonjag,

The sellers of the property in Polworth Street have declined your request to view on the grounds that you are not a Portonian.

Yours sincerely,


Ida Harden


Corum West End.
mortonjag 2008-07-24 21:25:46
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Jul 24 2008, 09:09 PM) [snapback]483401[/snapback]
Thank you for the information, I didn't appreciate that.
I know what subliminal means but my question still stands. Does the advert on the shirt actually make you buy the product. I watch Morton week in week out but never buy the sweets. How subliminal is that?

Golden Casket instead of Millions?

Golden Casket sounds like a funeral parlour.

I've had that confirmed by an employee at Feart Matilda.
mortonjag 2008-07-24 21:26:59
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 24 2008, 09:24 PM) [snapback]483413[/snapback]
We stick together, its like the league of Gentleman over here.

I see-I thought it maybe had something to do with the Rotweilers.
mortonjag 2008-07-24 21:28:47
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jul 24 2008, 09:14 PM) [snapback]483405[/snapback]
Did I ever tell you I'm a magician ???

ah cannae pull rabbits out of hats but ah kin pull hares out of ma arse.

Does your partner do it with 'tweezers'?
mortonjag 2008-07-24 21:30:30 I've been reading this thread with some interest. Unsolicited goods may indeed be retained, but three piece leather suites? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-24 21:34:49
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 24 2008, 09:15 PM) [snapback]483406[/snapback]
Lets see how many people on here will sponsor you on this venture, loads of folk on here are big with there mouths but become very quiet when it comes to parting with their cash, I'll start the ball rolling and donate a tenner to what ever fund is decided upon if you complete the 100 days successfully.



QUOTE(Kaney @ Jul 24 2008, 09:22 PM) [snapback]483412[/snapback]
I'll second that.

This is good guys, but the usual cynics will attempt to sabotage it, even if it's for the Hospice. No doubt SMEGMA will have a field day. It was RSBH's idea-and I'm happy to go along-we just need to nominate somebody to oversee it properly.
mortonjag 2008-07-24 21:36:19
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Jul 24 2008, 09:34 PM) [snapback]483419[/snapback]
it is indeed tongue.gif

Still haven't seen any real pouffes.
mortonjag 2008-07-24 21:45:50
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jul 24 2008, 09:42 PM) [snapback]483425[/snapback]
here ya go, mcf***.

That may be a pouffe in the posh West End but to me it's just a sex toy.
mortonjag 2008-07-24 21:48:17
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Jul 24 2008, 09:44 PM) [snapback]483426[/snapback]
just off the phone to my mate who some times goes to the games with me and his kid and he has just advised me not to take my boy with me as there may be trouble between the fans. I was not at the hartlepool game but heard there was an amount of organised violence. he told me that he was told by his mate that there will be bother on saturday which has been organised. I have first hand experience as a kid of crowd trouble at football from the 70's with my dad where he was injured when just trying to keep me safe. anyone heard anything.

i will still be going but having 2nd thoughts about taking the boy.

In my opinion the best thing is just not to discuss this any further.
mortonjag 2008-07-24 22:22:32
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Jul 24 2008, 09:54 PM) [snapback]483431[/snapback]
tell me why mj as i am just asking a sensible question about possible organised trouble, I have a concern as should any parent taking the kids to a game of football.

All I'm suggesting is that we play it down-think about it.
mortonjag 2008-07-24 22:35:35
QUOTE(stuart @ Jul 24 2008, 10:18 PM) [snapback]483455[/snapback]
We should have paid that money for him last summer. I said so at the time and almost everyone disagreed.

Because everybody was correct Stuart. It was daft money for an unproven young player when it could have easily been spent more prudently. One year down the line and he's still struggling to break through.
mortonjag 2008-07-24 22:39:35
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jul 24 2008, 09:55 PM) [snapback]483432[/snapback]
What a truly remarkable gentleman Harry Patch is, the autobiography is a very worthwhile read though I'd hesitate to use the word enjoyable. It really does bring home the horrors of war.

Actually the time spent in the trenches makes up only a relatively small part of the book, which when you think about it is not really as surprising as it may seem as it only accounts for 4 months of his 110 years. It doesn't detract from the book though as the accounts of his early life in particular were also interesting. What really became apparent in the book was just how much the world has changed in this guy's lifetime, he didn't see his first car until he was a teenager! Despite that his early childhood was happy, almost idyllic.

But of course it's his accounts of his service in WW1 trenches that were the most fascinating. In his own words, he had no interest in fighting anyone, and was a reluctant conscript to the army in 1916. He viewed it as a war created by politicians and generals where the ordinary men of all nationalities and on both sides were simply used as pawns, and he wanted no part of it. This may seem obvious to us now but back then and under waves of propaganda fuelled patriotism that was indeed an enlightened view.

He was part of a 5 man machine gun crew and they had a secret pact - they would only shoot to kill in an 'us or them' situation, otherwise they would aim for the legs. No doubt modern day professional soldiers would mock them for their weakness or naivety, but I saw it as a remarkable and courageous example of real humanitarianism.

Two of the guys in their gun crew were blown to bits, and his day of remembrance isn't the Sunday nearest to the 11th of November, but the date in which they died. He has no time for official Remembrance Day commemorations, which he sees more as a glorification of war than a true remembrance of the fallen. Again, a remarkably insightful view from a 110 year old gentleman imo.

A top, top bloke. I'd urge everyone to read this book.

I'd urge you to take up a new career in self promotion.


Books are for POUFFES.
mortonjag 2008-07-24 22:42:09
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jul 24 2008, 10:13 PM) [snapback]483445[/snapback]
Am I not trusted? sad.gif

Of course you're not trusted-you're still in jail FFS! laugh.gif

Seriously, it's a great idea, but if more than one want to get involved, it might be better to have somebody keeping a tally and watching the rules.

It wouldn't be the first time the Jag's account's been hacked remember! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-24 22:45:20
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 24 2008, 09:50 PM) [snapback]483430[/snapback]
So what were the others? sad.gif

What are you havering about now, Smegma?
mortonjag 2008-07-24 22:47:42
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 24 2008, 10:45 PM) [snapback]483478[/snapback]
The big mobile one that parks in Sinclair Street at home games.

I thought that was Manky's Portaloo.
mortonjag 2008-07-24 22:49:04
QUOTE(stuart @ Jul 24 2008, 10:41 PM) [snapback]483471[/snapback]
It would have provided us with far more options going forward and brought some of this entertaining football you have been talking about lately.

Of course it would, but at the time it was funny money. Hindsight's a wonderful thing.
mortonjag 2008-07-24 22:50:11
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 24 2008, 10:48 PM) [snapback]483485[/snapback]
He's the same as always happy.gif

What does he think about pouffes?
mortonjag 2008-07-24 22:51:10
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 24 2008, 10:35 PM) [snapback]483469[/snapback]
Proddy socks, laugh.gif
Did I not point out the informed conscience part of humanae vitae? mellow.gif

Was I never you RE teacher?

Proddy souls?
mortonjag 2008-07-24 22:52:21
QUOTE(Muz @ Jul 24 2008, 10:50 PM) [snapback]483491[/snapback]
Not working for me guys- wanted to have a wee nosey!

dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-24 22:56:45
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Jul 24 2008, 10:49 PM) [snapback]483488[/snapback]
And i'll third it

I think MJ will walk this wink.gif



Mortonjag will try very hard but we need regulation. For example I might say-'Last night I shagged my partner (the male one) down a leafy glade'-or-'My neighbour asked me to fix her shoogly door'.

Can you imagine? The MJ haters would be coming in gallons and their short trousers. wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-25 06:12:46
I KNOW SPURTLE


Yet again Bawheid's merry band capitalises on the ineptitude of 'Labour'.

It's a fantastic victory for the S.N.P., and surely signals the sounding of Maggie Broon's death knell.

C*nt Curran was reputedly 'in tears'... laugh.gif laugh.gif Tears of frustrated rage-GIRUTC!!

OK Bawheid-you've been handed a mandate on a plate.


WHEN'S THE REFERENDUM?
mortonjag 2008-07-25 06:22:31
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jul 25 2008, 02:59 AM) [snapback]483572[/snapback]
people did laugh when salmond said 20 snp mps in 2010. now that figure looks practically modest. Cairns ran a typically negative campaign and from what i hear he was the driving force behind the forced recount. dissapointed that the "separatist b*****ds" over at solidarity were beaten, albeit narrowly by the ssp. murdo fraser, off form all night has just committed blasmphemy: John Curtice got it wrong. Never! the mans a legend!
FAO david edwards. For a by election thats actually a very high turnout, given the date and the seat always having a low tunrout (38 % in 2005)

'Twas a sunny day!

QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 25 2008, 03:05 AM) [snapback]483573[/snapback]
No posting by mortonjag !!!

Is he out celebrating with his lady ?


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QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 25 2008, 03:07 AM) [snapback]483574[/snapback]
The lack of a Tory breakthrough makes the 2010 split even more likely.
I genuinely think tonight is pivotal to the independence movement: what is there now to stop it: Iain Gray?

SPARROT, you're at it again! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-25 06:27:58
QUOTE(Deego @ Jul 25 2008, 12:26 AM) [snapback]483538[/snapback]
McInally's doing a fine job.

Erm-that was last Autumn son-seems light years ago, mind! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-25 06:30:28
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 24 2008, 11:37 PM) [snapback]483518[/snapback]
Greenock and Paisley are very similair, if you lived in Paisley you'd say the same about Greenock. Think thats why our rivalry works so well, despite us not actually being that close.

That's true, though Pishley has only one Harbour.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 06:33:21 I was impressed by him in the second half against Hartlepool-had no idea he's only twenty.

Just imagine what we might have been able to do if existing central defenders hadn't been dished out long contracts and big wage rises.

We now don't 'need' him and can't afford him. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-25 06:36:11
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 24 2008, 06:01 PM) [snapback]483305[/snapback]
I thought NewTon would have been odds on favourite to start this topic. rolleyes.gif

Is that a fact?
mortonjag 2008-07-25 06:40:56
QUOTE(marxist_ton @ Jul 24 2008, 11:03 PM) [snapback]483497[/snapback]
I'll go along with Jim's proposal.

MJ must be present at the giving ofd the cheque though! laugh.gif



QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jul 25 2008, 12:44 AM) [snapback]483542[/snapback]
Cappielow Pitch before the Airdrie Game



Not a chance of that guys-not unless you buy the Jag a suit of armour!

Anyway, we've got a few days to get this rolling.Will somebody please put him/herself forward as an independent overseer.

I'm sure one of the older brigade would do it well-Tonsilitis for example, or Mr Edwards.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 06:42:42
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 25 2008, 01:47 AM) [snapback]483554[/snapback]
Good morning Mortonjag,

In that case, the answer is the pus.

It has far more potential than the matches.

smile.gif



Correct, though the matches had a head start.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 06:43:57
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 25 2008, 05:40 AM) [snapback]483575[/snapback]
Workers at a mine in Russia are refusing to work after a pack of bears fatally devoured two colleagues last week.

The grisly remains of two guards were found near the Koryakgeologia platinum mining compound in Russia's isolated eastern region of Kamchatka last week, UK newspaper The Times has reported.

A pack of at least 20 brown bears have been spotted stalking the site since the grisly discovery, trapping 400 geologists and miners who are too terrified to venture outside, according to local emergency services.

“In the interests of safety they didn't come out to work — the people are scared by the invasion of bears,” a spokesman for the Kamchatka emergencies ministry was quoted as saying.

The local government has sent a team of snipers to cull the predators, but they were not expected to reach the isolated area until the weekend.

A helicopter operation was abandoned because of bad weather conditions.

The Kamchatka brown bears have been known to grow up to three metres tall and can run at speeds near 50km/h.

Terrified villagers at the nearby town of Khailino have also locked themselves inside their homes after seeing bears rummaging through their garbage bins.

But orders to hunt and kill the bears have sparked arguments from environmentalists in Russia.

They claim that commercial poaching has caused a fish shortage, forcing the normally peaceful bears close to human settlements to hunt for food.

Another man was also mauled to death by a bear on the nearby Russian island of Sakhalin last month
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Gidday mortonjag,

Is being devoured by a brown bear usually fatal ?

Not if eaten alive.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 06:47:11
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 25 2008, 06:27 AM) [snapback]483580[/snapback]
Why did mortonjag laugh at this ?

Is it too close to the bone ?

Mortonjag's spectral sexual appetite might well encompass the likes of Wee Nickerless.

He/she/it's still one ugly creation.

Some might claim the same of an old goat.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 06:49:09
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jul 24 2008, 03:31 PM) [snapback]483194[/snapback]
Or a pile of Pouffes (should piles be mentioned in the same sentence as Pouffes) huh.gif

'Stack'!
mortonjag 2008-07-25 06:54:49
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jul 24 2008, 11:13 PM) [snapback]483502[/snapback]
you're f***ing s***e at these

laugh.gif

I wish we'd signed Dominic Shimmin
He's never been into the women
Indeed when half pissed
He's a joy with the fist
And ever so sweet when he's rimmin'
mortonjag 2008-07-25 06:56:13
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 25 2008, 12:07 AM) [snapback]483532[/snapback]
nah, thats not who i mean.
ph34r.gif
edit: should have probably actually read the thread properly.

What do you think about pouffes PT? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-25 06:59:50
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 25 2008, 12:51 AM) [snapback]483545[/snapback]
It used to be Augustus!

It still is!

Augustus Roger Smegma Erasmus Horace Oscar Liberace Elliot (known affectionately as Smegma).
mortonjag 2008-07-25 07:33:46
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jul 25 2008, 07:23 AM) [snapback]483594[/snapback]
it's like he's got a bingo machine in his cell, filled with balls covered in random words. new nicknames required? alright!

'expiry date'!

'foam'!

'godzilla'!

'stent'!

'pickles'!

and if he doesn't get a rise from anyone, they're immediately recycled. puggsy and now you have commented on this one, so it'll be around for a while. despite being totally meaningless.

Clitoris Uvula Narcissus Trivia



(Known affectionately as Narcissus-the posh pad pusher).
mortonjag 2008-07-25 07:53:45
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 25 2008, 07:47 AM) [snapback]483599[/snapback]
Excellent and incredible result for the SNP. The Salmond bandwagon rolls on and on, what an incredible leader he is !

Labour are in a sorry state. A Party that's almost bankrupt, with a pathetic leader in Westminster and no leader at Holyrood (with no one credible to take over).

Roll on the referendum !!!

I could not have put it better Spurtle.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 07:56:45
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 25 2008, 07:41 AM) [snapback]483597[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
Referendum in 2010 tongue.gif

Edit to give dates to referendum Bill before parliament on Burns Day 2010. Referendum will be held on St Andrew's Day 2010.
Ye heard it here first !

Strike while the iron's hot Spurtle-why's Bawheid feart?

QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 25 2008, 07:51 AM) [snapback]483600[/snapback]
Yes a great victory, I half expected to see Morton Jag appear beside his beloved to give Nicky support on the BBC as a pundit! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

I fully intend to get rat arsed tonight to celebrate the win! laugh.gif

WTF is 'Nicky'? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-25 07:59:43
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jul 25 2008, 07:39 AM) [snapback]483596[/snapback]
the clock on my oven is less predictable.

Have you told the viewers? The oven alone must surely be worth £2178.

For sale-two bed top floor tenement flat with faulty Aga, and well maintained peephole. laugh.gif

(Offers over £220,000) smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-25 08:05:11
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 25 2008, 07:57 AM) [snapback]483603[/snapback]
I have to agree despite all the effort the turn out is low, and is worrying. however Labours fightback came to a shuddering halt in Glasgow east and it never got out of first gear.

As David Cairns orchestrated their ill fated campaign will he accept full responsibility unlike Douglas Alexander who oversaw the farce of the Scottish Government elections. I wont hold my breath under water waiting for his statementto that effect.
A busted Flush?



Oh well, for me the greatest joy is the smug smirk being wiped of C*NT CURRAN'S face. Next time I pass her in Newlands Safeway I shall smile and wish her 'Good Day'. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-25 08:11:08
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 25 2008, 08:00 AM) [snapback]483605[/snapback]
Strike while the iron's hot Spurtle-why's Bawheid feart?
WTF is 'Nicky'? laugh.gif
[/quote
Alexs wee side kick you admire so much. happy.gif

Oh-the bearded lady who once tried to find a Spanish Suitor.

I visited Tarragona, Catalonia from 12 to 13 November 2005 to speak at the autumn conference of Esquerra Republicana de Catalunya. My flights, accommodation and meals cost £300 and were met by Esquerra Republicana de Catalunya.

Esquerra apparently said later-'I not find her too convince me'. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-25 08:13:46
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 25 2008, 08:01 AM) [snapback]483606[/snapback]
Justed checked its working fine.

It looks quite swish. Can anybody join?

Mortonjag's birth was registered in Gourock!
mortonjag 2008-07-25 08:15:38
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 25 2008, 08:04 AM) [snapback]483607[/snapback]
We are fussy who we let in here you know, Sunny Port Glasgow by the sea is an elite area,exceptions cannot be made , not even for you! cool.gif

But I lived in the Port-TWICE, and I went to school in the Port TWICE, and I attended Church in the Port till I learned sense. mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-25 08:18:04
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jul 25 2008, 08:13 AM) [snapback]483610[/snapback]
if this swing relflects in the whole of scotland in 2010 then the main man cairns, gordon brown douglas alexander and even captain eagle himself alistair darling will fall
whose left to take the poisoned chalice of leader now? will duncy step up to the plate? perhaps in a bid to rescue a seat which is surely under threat

Is this the first flicker of hope that three quarters of Scotland's Cooncils will soon become graft free?


AYE RIGHT! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-25 08:30:55
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 25 2008, 08:21 AM) [snapback]483614[/snapback]
Oh well, for me the greatest joy is the smug smirk being wiped of C*NT CURRAN'S face. Next time I pass her in Newlands Safeway I shall smile and wish her 'Good Day'. laugh.gif
[/quotI would be grateful if you would giver her a cheery wave on my behalf laugh.gif

I'd give her a Masonic handshake if I knew how to do it! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-25 08:37:25
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 25 2008, 08:24 AM) [snapback]483615[/snapback]
laugh.gif the very one! laugh.gif laugh.gif

A nice juicy pair if ever I saw one!
mortonjag 2008-07-25 09:29:07
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 25 2008, 08:44 AM) [snapback]483619[/snapback]
I'll need to ask the committee at the next AGM. rolleyes.gif

Thanks-will I get a reply before my death is registered? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-25 09:33:29 Dr Bam is correct, and equally important not to let somebody with cold sores sook your knob.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 09:52:47
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 25 2008, 09:40 AM) [snapback]483633[/snapback]
The voice of experience, thank to Dr MortonJag.

I thought your fitness to practice hearing was today. unsure.gif

No-it was a week ago-they wanted to ban me Sine Die until I explained I was a Ton supporter.

The old school tie always works wonders in Medicine!

I got off with a slap across the wrist and a promise never to prescribe the pill to Catholic ladies over ninety- ever again.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 09:54:28
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 25 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]483635[/snapback]
Andy said he would keep my updated but he also said he would be drinking from very early in the day.

So as a back up measure...could one of you keep me updated on the game? Just HT and FT scores and scorers will do as I probably wont have my phone on me while competing.

Thanks

(The Morton message board...a new communication tool!)

Not the massive tit sooker of the year competition?
mortonjag 2008-07-25 10:11:54
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 25 2008, 09:13 AM) [snapback]483625[/snapback]
I would respectfully suggest that Greenock is slowly becoming a commuter 'burb too with quick access to the M8.

The Mearns has got a lot bigger than it was 25 years ago and has people working all over the place, the rapid industrial expansion of East Kilbride has lead to may people working there and living in East Ren.

Glasgow's refusal to release it's large blocks of land for private housing for most of the 60s to the nineties certainly encouraged the flight to the burbs. That policy is now dead and buried, lots of private building on land sold by the cooncil. All Glasgow needs to sort out is it's education system to see more people wanting to live there.

Don't worry-there will soon be hunners and hunners of Essen Pee Cooncillors, with schools for all minority groups, class sizes averaging fifteen, and the return of belting brats.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 10:23:25
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Jul 25 2008, 10:18 AM) [snapback]483651[/snapback]
you know i read these political threads every time and have came to the conclusion that no1 here actually knows or cares for politics. Although your statements are always just and correct I have came to the conclusion you are all using this as a plateau to use large words and make yourselves sound clever.
with that in mind here is my addition to the conversation biggrin.gif

The SNP victory in the Glasgow East by-election does appear to be a substancial push forward on the way to scottish nationalism and individualistic diplomacy. I would just hope that we do not turn into a miniature totalitarian state in which we distance ourselves so much from Westminster that we burn all social bridges with our neighbours.

Although other countries who have went down the road of parliamentary independance have flourished it is not to say that we should pack up our excrement and leave. We may not at this time be ready to go it alone and may need the extra few years of holding on to the proverbial hand on Westminster before taking our spherical sporting object and heading back to our clansman domicile a la Holyrood.

As stated by Salmond, McNeill et al, change is on the horizon. It may however need a bit of time and perseverance before the change is noticable.


smartass.gif nerd.gif

Did you plagiarise one of SPARROT'S splurges and throw in the spelling mistakes as a smoke screen?
mortonjag 2008-07-25 10:53:56
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 24 2008, 11:23 PM) [snapback]483510[/snapback]
It would have to be an outstanding pair of binoculars considering Kilkreggan from there is quite shapr to the right with a hill in the way

I see you've tried saddo! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-25 11:02:01
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Jul 25 2008, 10:28 AM) [snapback]483657[/snapback]
ill has you no that SPARROT had no input whatsoever in my statemont. The speling mistakes where not that of a smok screen but that of a test...soley for you Mj. I know how much it iritates you and your OCD...or is it ADD you have?? blink.gif

It only really irritates me when grand and flowery language is littered with spelling mistakes.

For example-'I think the S.N.P are doing a reely great job' wouldn't bother me in the slightest.


Although other countries who have went down the road of parliamentary independance have flourished it is not to say that we should pack up our excrement and leave.

That does! Sorry Thrax-I'm an old fud-I know it, but it just doesn't wash with me! mellow.gif

QUOTE(cmonaton @ Jul 25 2008, 10:43 AM) [snapback]483661[/snapback]
this is probably one of the final nails in Brown's coffin.no one can say it hasn't been deserved.they have became the "smug party",we have now created a dangerous situation in Scotland.the SNP are not as great as some make out.ok they have done a reasonable job,scoring brownie points from easy targets,eg free bridge tolls.the main problem we now have all the other parties are so weak,that there is no competition in bollywood any more.aye it's a sad day for the Labour party.serves thm right for being so fcking smug,thinking they could just turn up and win.as for Margaret Curran.i have never heard so much shte being spouted since thatcher.she was the most embarrassing candiitate that Labour could have picked.

Agreed-Curran is KEECH supreme!
mortonjag 2008-07-25 11:04:06
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Jul 25 2008, 10:58 AM) [snapback]483669[/snapback]
is it you?

no dick for you tonight

Does Dick have Herpes Labialis?
mortonjag 2008-07-25 11:07:45
QUOTE(rex manning @ Jul 25 2008, 11:02 AM) [snapback]483673[/snapback]
Its nice that we can take the time, to get players we cant afford, fit for our neighbours.

It was a bit strange. Does DI really want to sign another central defender?
mortonjag 2008-07-25 11:11:04
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jul 25 2008, 11:04 AM) [snapback]483675[/snapback]
ha

ha

ha

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you're dead funny n that

no... honestly, that was hilarious

sleep.gif

It just goes to show what happens when you share your wee secrets in good faith.

I've always regretted admitting that I'm polysexual.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 11:13:00
QUOTE(suda @ Jul 25 2008, 11:09 AM) [snapback]483678[/snapback]
Has the SPL not just substantially increased their deal with Setanta too, there's no way we can or should be trying to compete with those wage demands.

Yet we SHOULD be aspiring to SPL status.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 11:15:02
QUOTE(steveoath @ Jul 25 2008, 11:09 AM) [snapback]483679[/snapback]

It's still good for our 'wee' club to get publicity.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 11:16:56
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jul 25 2008, 11:13 AM) [snapback]483682[/snapback]
I knew that you had a penchant for boys and for sheep, but parrots?!?!?!?!?

honestly, that is just sick

Parrots, budgies, love birds, eagles, and only once a Great Tit! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-25 11:18:20
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Jul 25 2008, 11:14 AM) [snapback]483683[/snapback]
tongue.gif i think the fact that my "grand and flowery" language was all in jest should prove thats not the way i normally speak, hence the spelling and grammar mistakes wink.gif

Excellent-I shall be keeping an eye on you! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-25 11:19:24
QUOTE(rex manning @ Jul 25 2008, 11:17 AM) [snapback]483689[/snapback]
I don't have to worry, Boozehound is escorting me tomorrow. Any trouble and I just get to sit back and watch the magic happen.

Does Boozie have a large wand?
mortonjag 2008-07-25 11:21:22
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jul 25 2008, 11:18 AM) [snapback]483691[/snapback]
would someone please indulge me and explain that one about rolling in flour to me?

laugh.gif

Are you at it? It's akin to 'Gonnae fart an' gie's a clue'?
mortonjag 2008-07-25 11:44:49
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Jul 25 2008, 11:43 AM) [snapback]483711[/snapback]
Is Drumgelloch not a seperate train from the Airdrie train mate?

I think Airdrie is the stop before Drumgelloch which is the terminus. You'd be quicker walking from Airdrie than Drumgelloch.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 11:46:16
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jul 25 2008, 11:23 AM) [snapback]483695[/snapback]
the title of this topic relates to muffdiving, and coldsores. Where exactly was dick mentioned, other than by you?
if that was a blue tit, would that mean you were a necrophiliac?

I am anyway-would you care to share a bottle of wine in my excellent cellar?
mortonjag 2008-07-25 11:49:40
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 25 2008, 11:31 AM) [snapback]483702[/snapback]
Ive been saying that for years now and always got slated, Annabel Goldie is the one Tory Ive always had a little bit of time for.

In an Independent Scotland I would wipe the slate clean with all political parties.


More to Auntie Annabel than meets the eye then! blush.gif
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 25 2008, 11:38 AM) [snapback]483706[/snapback]
No matter your views on the SNP, no one can deny that this victory looks like the start of a trend happening across the country.

Freedom is just around the corner rolleyes.gif


Is bawheid about to resign? laugh.gif
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Jul 25 2008, 11:44 AM) [snapback]483712[/snapback]
sad.gif f***!

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mortonjag 2008-07-25 12:38:38
QUOTE(rex manning @ Jul 25 2008, 11:40 AM) [snapback]483708[/snapback]
Im pretty sure if we couldn't afford his wages at the end of his trial period we couldn't afford them at the start. Im struggling to see the reason for him ever being at Cappiellow. All we seemed to do was bring him to the attention of other teams up here.

Maybe he was brought up to annoy me because now every time Greasan goes for a diving header when the ball is 3 inches off the ground i'll be thinking about that time we had a decent centre half for 3 games.

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mortonjag 2008-07-25 12:39:53
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 23 2008, 11:07 AM) [snapback]482492[/snapback]
Avoiding my main point to pick out the little thing...you really should be a politician!!! happy.gif

I'm a liberal peer.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 13:08:14
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jul 25 2008, 12:47 PM) [snapback]483748[/snapback]
Prostrate probs MJ? laugh.gif

Possibly-but I've always been-I think I have supersonic kidneys.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 13:14:13
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jul 25 2008, 12:00 PM) [snapback]483722[/snapback]
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David, the more mature among us can respect other people's views and the way they present them without actually agreeing with them. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jul 25 2008, 12:08 PM) [snapback]483726[/snapback]
Brilliant, another square-heided small-minded Patriot.

Was Mason not the guy who suggested that we start naming streets after William Wallace and Robert the Bruce when speaking out against naming one after Donald Dewar? laugh.gif

What happens if you don't get a result on this 2010 Referendum then? Does Scotland turn into another Quebec, where we're having an independence referendum every other year? I'm not asking this to point score for "The Union", I genuinely want to hear SNP supporters opinion.

For the record, Curran and Mason were both crappy candidates and I'll admit that Labour is a dead horse, but I still don't like the SNP.

I have grave reservations about a bible bashing Baptist accountant-still single in his early fifties-ESPECIALLY when he's called Mason.

Curran is unadulterated quasi socialist jumped up nobody KEECH.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 13:17:51
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jul 25 2008, 01:15 PM) [snapback]483773[/snapback]
I didn't know I signed up to the "Disagree with my wee mob and I'll take cheap shots at your family Forum".

Oh my God is Thrax in 'the Mob'?
mortonjag 2008-07-25 13:19:56
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jul 25 2008, 01:18 PM) [snapback]483778[/snapback]
He's a Junior Member, but he'll earn his Porridge Badge soon enough.

Is Puggs also a mobster-how many of them share the spell-checker?
mortonjag 2008-07-25 13:23:08
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jul 25 2008, 01:15 PM) [snapback]483774[/snapback]
i genuinely dont get it.

Ok-and if you're takin' the piss you're a bad man.


She's so fat you can't find her 'shagging aperture'-(which is physiologically moist), so you roll her in dry white flour and then look for the wet bit!

I'd MUCH rather shag a dead sparrow hawk.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 14:14:59
QUOTE(tontric @ Jul 25 2008, 02:05 PM) [snapback]483816[/snapback]
Good !

On his day Greacen is one of the best defenders in the league. If Irons can get him to stay on his feet more often then he could have a good season.

Mon the big yin !

I think he'll do a lot better when/if got McManus alongside.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 14:25:00
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Jul 25 2008, 01:47 PM) [snapback]483807[/snapback]
I didn't realise supporting a party was compulsory.

Can I not just think that they're all a bit sh*t?

Yip, you can in my book-party politics is full of scummery.

The other posters can argue till they are blue, red, yellow, or tartan in the face about which particular scum they favour.

Knowall c*nts on the make-the whole lot of them and none worse than King Bawheid the First.

The SNP IS the only route to independence, but with Salmond shenanigans, WILL we get it. ph34r.gif

Yesterday was all about how bad New Labour have become-it had f*ck all to do with that leering pragmatic tumshie heided buffoon.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 14:27:58
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Jul 25 2008, 01:44 PM) [snapback]483803[/snapback]
ah i see so its just not funny then?

thats what i thought the purpose of the joke was but i thought i would give it the benefit of the doubt. anyway, no matter how fat a girl was im pretty sure that any moron would still be able to figure out where he was going. If not then just pick a random crevace between some rolls of fat and smash that instead.

plus, if she really is fat enough that you couldnt find her muff, then i would imagine that she is gonna be pretty sweaty, which would make this whole flour methodology pretty risky, as moistness would exist in several areas. you might end up pumpin tricks maws armpit or somethin like that

Don't spoil a good story!

Anyway you'd get a far better ride off a bald hedgehog.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 14:31:36
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Jul 25 2008, 02:19 PM) [snapback]483821[/snapback]
Greacen McManus and two others = back 4 which I prefer but DI doesn't seem to. Most pre season we seem to have been promoting a back 3. I can't see Greacen McManus and 1 other as a back 3 (too slow).

Anyway.....at last a game of real football tomorrow.

COME ON THE TON !

Hopefully-the Renny Cup Final is ALWAYS competitive, despite what many claim/think.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 14:35:08
QUOTE(Toby @ Jul 25 2008, 02:23 PM) [snapback]483822[/snapback]
I thought everyone in Monklands was odd and unsavoury looking unsure.gif ?

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Don't forget that before the 'Monklands'-Airdrie and Coatbridge were two VERY different towns! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-25 14:47:44 Does anybody else like Wright's Coal Tar soap?
mortonjag 2008-07-25 15:09:38
QUOTE(Deego @ Jul 25 2008, 02:51 PM) [snapback]483836[/snapback]
Is this Friday? unsure.gif

Nope it's a yellow Smiley like this unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-25 15:14:18
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 25 2008, 02:58 PM) [snapback]483837[/snapback]
I'll start off by saying I believe we would win a YES vote if a referendum was held in 2010.

Salmond is on record as saying IF it returned a NO vote then the referendum would be put to bed for a generation.

I don't agree with him on that one though. IF a NO vote was returned I would be campaigning for another referendum ASAP.

Is there a Prince Bawheid in the making, Spurtle, or would it be Nickerless the 1st-the hermaphrodite Queen?
mortonjag 2008-07-25 15:31:25
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jul 25 2008, 03:15 PM) [snapback]483846[/snapback]
If the public vote no then that should be the issue buried for a minimum of a decade. more likely 2 or 3.

But this all depends on what the vote will consist of as I am sure Labour and the Libe Dems (who) will demand the inclusion of a more powers option which will make the vote irrelevant imo. The vote should not include an option for this and should just consist of the YES or NO choice. If it is a straight uncomplicated vote then the will of the majority should be recognised and accepted.

Do you wish a totally independent self governing Scotland?



Yes



No




Quite simple really-that's what I want, and I'd vote YES.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 15:38:22
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 25 2008, 03:26 PM) [snapback]483852[/snapback]
Perfectly normal, though for personal hygiene reasons I would advise that your partner in fornication uses a decent bidet before the act. ph34r.gif



Word History: The word fornication had a lowly beginning suitable to what has long been the low moral status of the act to which it refers. The Latin word fornix, from which fornicātiō, the ancestor of fornication, is derived, meant "a vault, an arch." The term also referred to a vaulted cellar or similar place where prostitutes plied their trade. This sense of fornix in Late Latin yielded the verb fornicārī, "to commit fornication," from which is derived fornicātiō, "whoredom, fornication." Our word is first recorded in Middle English about 1303.

bidet
1630, from Fr., of unknown etymology. Originally in Fr. "a small horse, a pony," thus "a vessel on a low narrow stand, which can be bestridden for bathing purposes." smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-25 15:42:16
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 25 2008, 03:38 PM) [snapback]483866[/snapback]
Oh Dear Alibi, you're a condescending chap are you not. blink.gif
Ach but you're a happy man today so I'll not take umbrage. laugh.gif

Bars don't get lowered, I refer you to the two spectacular govan wins for the SNP.

Bars don't get lowered, I refer you to the 1950 general election where the Tories gained 44.8% of the popular vote in Scotland. Clicky.

The votes for parties go up and down, parties gain and lose popularity.

Personally I blame it on Calf Lick skools!
mortonjag 2008-07-25 15:43:46
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Jul 25 2008, 03:30 PM) [snapback]483858[/snapback]
I'll admit, that was funny. More through the unexpectedness, but still I laughed a little.

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mortonjag 2008-07-25 15:47:00
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Jul 25 2008, 03:42 PM) [snapback]483871[/snapback]
so your saying his missus is a pony wh*re ohmy.gif

No, I was just sharing the definition of a couple of Dr Bam's medical words.

I loved 'bestridden'-it's a rather quaint term


e.g.


My little pony was bestridden by Fr. Murphy, etc.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 15:50:32 If only Auntie Annabel wore a tartan plaid and knickers-she and Bawheid could form a fine coalition.

She comes over as rather intelligent, thoughtful, and understanding. They would complement each other perfectly.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 15:57:30
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 25 2008, 03:50 PM) [snapback]483878[/snapback]
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Brown is a weasel. As I have said before, I detest him more than I do Thatcher ! mad.gif

All politicians are weasels Spurtle-you'll have to qualify the noun for proper effect.

F*ckin' weasel is emphatic but not pictorially apt.

Wicked weasel alliterates nicely but seems rather mild.

It's quite difficult really when they are all weasels.

Why not call him a serpent among weasels-that sounds just about right?
mortonjag 2008-07-25 16:00:24
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 25 2008, 03:56 PM) [snapback]483882[/snapback]
As Cornelius Bear put it: "Often times, it seems that the only difference between children and the insane is pride of workmanship."

Do you read many comics, Smegma? I have several old Dandies lying about my cellar-a bit decomposed, but still usable.

Would you like to visit my cellar? wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-25 17:38:04
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 25 2008, 04:09 PM) [snapback]483890[/snapback]
I read Achewood and one other, both online. Although I do have all but one of the Achewood books biggrin.gif

The Broons are good.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 17:44:07
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Jul 25 2008, 05:17 PM) [snapback]483915[/snapback]
I was sitting watching a DVD and ended up spreading one 40 minute episode over three hours because I kept flicking over to the BBC and Sky News! Was pretty interesting to watch as ever. I'm not an SNP man, simply because I don't want independence and I don't think a majority of people would vote for it in a referendum. However, it is difficult to ignore their status at the moment, and their ongoing progress. I was yet again impressed by the way Nicola Sturgeon spoke on that panel, she is head and shoulders above the likes of Wendy Alexander, Cathy Jamieson etc. An excellent deputy. Not hard to see why Scottish Labour, let alone the Westminster party, are struggling.

The SNP have taken that opportunistic, media savvy, populist style that Tony Blair made so appealing in the 90s and are giving that treament to every candidate that runs for them! You can't help but thinking there is momentum there, and wondering when they will peak! I think the size of that swing was further proof that no seat should be considered a 'safe seat' anymore.

I do think if there was a General Election tomorrow though, that Cairns would get back in, but with a significantly reduced minority.

Only words!
mortonjag 2008-07-25 17:46:42
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 25 2008, 04:08 PM) [snapback]483889[/snapback]
Will the Midden game be webcasterised?

rip.gif rip.gif rip.gif

Webcastrated!
mortonjag 2008-07-25 17:50:12 Morton meet St Mirren in the final of the Renfrewshire Cup this Saturday - Kick off is 3pm.

Admission prices for this match are as follows:

Adults £10

Concessions £5
mortonjag 2008-07-25 18:40:08
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 25 2008, 05:59 PM) [snapback]483930[/snapback]
If you like that sort of thing. My "S.O." enjoys their comedy stylings.

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mortonjag 2008-07-25 18:42:55
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 25 2008, 06:34 PM) [snapback]483943[/snapback]
You're man, you're: unlike ewer which is a pitcher with a large spout.

Ach sorry, missing the teachering bit during the hols. laugh.gif

....and rhymes with hewer which conjures up fornicative thoughts.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 18:47:04
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jul 25 2008, 05:55 PM) [snapback]483929[/snapback]
Sweet nothings to you Doc.



Sweet Nothings
when you stroke my face with your hands

when you whisper in my ear

when you hug me from behind

when you look at me

with that beautiful loving smile

oh, those sweet nothings

mean everything

when they're coming from you

coming from you



nickerless wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-25 18:49:36
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 25 2008, 06:42 PM) [snapback]483946[/snapback]
while you were away on holiday i won about £240 in one day on the Euros and then £100 the next day, so my luck has changed. tongue.gif

my money is on whoever is up against Iain Russell trying to outsmart them on a football field.

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Leave LEAFY alone you.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 18:50:51
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 25 2008, 06:49 PM) [snapback]483953[/snapback]
There'll be a party at my hoose when the Yes vote is delivered. I might even book the Morton Club. biggrin.gif

Will Shoogly bring a friend?
mortonjag 2008-07-25 18:54:22
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jul 25 2008, 06:49 PM) [snapback]483951[/snapback]
why? why do you have a silver car? does it go with your bling?

does it bring out the deep orange in your slap-on f***ing tan?

Why do you have an oak brown coffin? Were you always going against the grain?

Does it highlight the whiter shade of peuce on your hollow cheeks?
mortonjag 2008-07-25 19:06:36
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 25 2008, 06:55 PM) [snapback]483957[/snapback]
you're just trying to get it out while you still can. tongue.gif

Personally i could out smart Iain Russell on a football field, he doesn't know the offside rule....that basically makes him a woman and we all know they can't out smart men.
would like to point out this is the views of Edinton and Greenockmorton.org and not my views, im just a sheep who follows my sheperd. (added because im scared of every single female on here).

Provided they are only views, you may express them ad libitum.

I think big Khali is just a slightly more hirsute version of wee Nickerless, and can only score when there's no left wing.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 19:11:23
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 25 2008, 07:04 PM) [snapback]483962[/snapback]
I don't know Shoogly that well (I reckon he's a bit of a unionist/monarchist anyway) I only know Rae junior. What the feck, I'll invite them anyway, along with the whole Morton squad. Peter Weatherson might not show up though. (especially if it's in the Morton Club.) laugh.gif

He's been a member of Unison for years! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-25 19:12:23
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 25 2008, 07:08 PM) [snapback]483966[/snapback]
significant other

Ah-I have an IO!
mortonjag 2008-07-25 19:15:17
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jul 25 2008, 07:13 PM) [snapback]483971[/snapback]
Always thought that silver cars demonstrated a complete lack of personality.

Always thought that oak coffins did the same.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 19:24:17
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jul 25 2008, 07:20 PM) [snapback]483976[/snapback]
Most folk don't choose their own coffin though.

I have chosen a silver coffin GT.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 19:26:04
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jul 25 2008, 07:24 PM) [snapback]483981[/snapback]
I hate silver cars. I prefer Black cars myself. ph34r.gif

I hate lilac coloured Ford Kas-they are the epitomy of pouffery.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 19:27:59
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 25 2008, 07:18 PM) [snapback]483975[/snapback]
Actions speak louder than words MJ rolleyes.gif
• Prescription Charges - The SNP Government has cut the cost of prescription charges by a QUARTER – the first step to making them FREE by 2010. And people who suffer from chronic or long-term conditions and cancer will benefit from an immediate cut of 50% in the cost of prescription pre-payment certificates (PPCs)

• Council Tax Frozen: Under Labour, between 1996-97 and 2007-08 Council Tax in Glasgow rose by 51% and the city now has the second highest Council Tax in Scotland. The SNP Government secured a deal with Local Authorities, including Glasgow, to freeze Council Tax for 2008/09 and is moving to scrap the Council tax – benefiting 72% of Glasgow residents.

• Businesses Helped Local Business is at the heart of regeneration in the East End. To help improve the local economy, the SNP Government is reducing or abolishing business rates for almost 16,000 businesses in Glasgow through the Small Business Bonus.

• Commonwealth Games Legacy: The SNP Government is funding 80% of the costs of the Commonwealth Games and is ensuring a lasting legacy for the games with investment in youth sports facilities and following pressure from the SNP Government, the Big Lottery Fund have announced a '2014 Communities' fund to ensure a lasting legacy from the Commonwealth Games – starting with half a million in 2008/09.

• Regeneration: The Fairer Scotland Fund will invest over £150m in Glasgow alone over the next 3 years. Also, the Clyde Gateway regeneration scheme, which spans Glasgow and South Lanarkshire, has been awarded £62 million by the SNP Government.

• Central Heating Programme - The SNP Government has increased installations of central heating systems from 13,500 a year under the previous administration to nearly 15,000 a year – the highest number ever.

• Increase in police numbers: Thanks to the SNP's commitment to delivering 1000 extra police, Strathclyde Police has the funds to increase their number of officers by 750 over the next three years. The first 150 of the SNP's 1000 extra police have just graduated from the Police Training College at Tulliallan.

• Crime Cut in East Glasgow under the SNP: The Enhanced Policing Plan (EPP), a Strathclyde Police led initiative funded by the SNP Government's Community Regeneration Fund, has seen crime drop significantly since its launch in October 2007. Within six months crime levels have dropped significantly in Sprinboig, Barlanark and Greenfield (24%); Parkhead (22%); Shettleston/Tollcros
s (10%) and Wellhouse (10%).

• Tackling Gangs: In Government the SNP has invested an additional £200,000 to tackle gang violence and territorialism with over £16,000 going into support Strathclyde police's anti-gang work in Easterhouse.

• Cash back for Communities: This SNP Government scheme uses money taken from organised criminals and reinvests it in youth projects in deprived areas. Projects in and around Glasgow East are already benefiting from the scheme: Cranhill Arts Project has received £4,730 in funding; The Sound Lab has received £11,827; and Reidvale Adventure Play Association has been awarded £4,812.

• Hospitals: The SNP Government has provided £842 million of public money to replace the Southern General Hospital, which previous Labour Government's had neglected. Also, one of the very first actions of the SNP upon becoming the Government was to save the Accident and Emergency department at nearby Monklands.

• Free Personal Care: The SNP initiated the first increase in Free Personal Care Payments in line with inflation, and invested an extra £40m to meet shortfalls in the service. In contrast Labour in Westminster refused to return attendance allowance to Scotland.

• Bus Travel Concessionary Fares: The SNP Government has increased support for bus travel with extra funding of £12m over the next three years. Funding for bus transport is 31% higher per capita in Scotland under the SNP than in England and Wales under Labour and the SNP Government has announced plans to extend the scheme for injured veterans in recognition of their service.

• Free Education: The SNP has reintroduced grants for part – time students, helping those in areas like Glasgow East who are working hard for a better future.

• John Wheatley College: The SNP Government acted to ensure the long term viability of John Wheatley College in Glasgow, which has campuses in Shettleston and Easterhouse, by protecting its charitable status.

• Housing: Since the SNP came to power 16 local housing associations have been given approval by GHA to proceed to Second Stage Transfer, with another 17 in discussions to do the same. In Glasgow East, Parkhead Housing Association is aiming to ballot tenants on SST on the 17th of November.

• Nursery Education: Free nursery education has been increased to 475 hours per year for 3-4 year olds.

And your point is? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-25 19:29:27
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jul 25 2008, 07:27 PM) [snapback]483986[/snapback]
Aye it is.

You'll probably claim that working for local government is nowt to do with your lack of personality as well.

What livery does Taun Taun favour on his Smart car?
mortonjag 2008-07-25 19:31:33
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 25 2008, 07:29 PM) [snapback]483993[/snapback]
You said, only words. I said, action speaks louder than words, and gave examples blink.gif




Actions cannot speak Spurtle-you've been listening to Politicians again.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 21:08:55
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 25 2008, 07:56 PM) [snapback]484017[/snapback]
Well let's hope you don't need any prescriptions or one of the newly graduated Policemen/woman to help you.

The prescription charges measure was done for popularity Spurtle, and in a random fashion too. The NHS needs MORE money. Perhaps actions DO speak louder than words!

Nickerless is a pathetically plastic little people pleaser with as much fiscal savoir faire as a dead haggis, and she badly needs a shave.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 21:12:56
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 25 2008, 08:18 PM) [snapback]484031[/snapback]
i'm sure mr rae would humour smegmajag in his bid for canonisation rip.gif

Very occasionally Alistair your puerile splutterings are viciously amusing.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 21:24:25
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jul 25 2008, 07:30 PM) [snapback]483994[/snapback]
and you would be the epitome of silver-car driving poncery.

Aye right son!

QUOTE(DongaTon @ Jul 25 2008, 08:24 PM) [snapback]484037[/snapback]
My mum AND dad have got silver cars though. Saabs at that. What does this mean?

My dad's a great guy! Does look like Fred West though, so you're maybe onto something here.


Some Saabs are not poncey or silver!
mortonjag 2008-07-25 21:29:07
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 25 2008, 07:59 PM) [snapback]484020[/snapback]
anyone checked companies house recently? rolleyes.gif

much heat, little light biggrin.gif

Check yourself you tight fisted c*nt-it'll cost you an English pound.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 21:33:21
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jul 25 2008, 08:24 PM) [snapback]484039[/snapback]
Sorry MJ, your resentment of all things Rae is clouding your judgement here.

Major supermarket and distributor deals don't come out of haphazard marketing, as anyone with a young family (or a sweet tooth cool.gif ) will tell you Millions are everywhere across this land.

The fact that the marketing at Cappielow is so poor is all the more puzzling.

I agree on the sponsorship though, it was a good gesture a few seasons ago however I'd love to know when we last benchmarked the amount that GC pay versus the amount other clubs of our size receive.

Is the 25K or whatever the figure is still value for money?

I'm interested in facts, not opinions Cawston. Produce the facts and I'll believe you. Forty nine employees in a Feart Matilda sweatshop and a profit of less than £2million p.a. is VERY small beer in the confectionery world.

That's a FACT. laugh.gif

Oh and this 'resentment of all things Rae' thing-why has that old chestnut popped out again.

I F*CKING RESENT THAT ACCUSATION.

I'm not a resentful person. I pity Shoogly-he often angers me, and sometimes I utterly abhor his misguided behaviour. I am entitled to state my opinions surely, without the usual lies from folk like yourself! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-25 21:47:51
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 25 2008, 09:33 PM) [snapback]484055[/snapback]

You are treading on very dangerous ground Spurtle. Has it never occurred to you that Bawheid and Nickerless are a cartoonist's dream pair.

How I WISH I could draw!

Salmond really has the most grotesque face since Quasimodo after his plastic surgery, and Nickerless typifies unshaven dykery.

Fran and Anna WERE MUCH more talented in every way.


It's a sure measure of the level to which New Labour has plummetted that that pair of wannabes is 'leading' our nation.

Shoogly and LEAFY would do a better job-guaranteed.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 21:51:06
QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Jul 25 2008, 09:45 PM) [snapback]484057[/snapback]
I saw in today's paper "Strach says bye bye to big buys". It's all about how Celtic can not afford to make the signings that the supporters are expecting and Strachan saying that the youngsters will be more involved this season. He is quoted as saying something along the lines of "We have Cilian, Paul, and Gowser there". Looks like Gowser could be part of his plans.

Maybe that's why he's a Celtic player! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-25 21:52:52
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jul 25 2008, 07:29 PM) [snapback]483990[/snapback]
i've got a signed print of the 'ching chong wing wong' strip.

Fantastic.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 21:54:11
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 25 2008, 07:47 PM) [snapback]484010[/snapback]
sure he didn't just tell you he'd blew his load and you misunderstood?

I suspect he was a flat fish shagging freak.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 21:55:58
QUOTE(RadolfZitler @ Jul 25 2008, 09:51 PM) [snapback]484060[/snapback]
an alias of Duncy McNeil?

No.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 22:39:12
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 25 2008, 10:00 PM) [snapback]484064[/snapback]
ill check that its you

Bryan-do you want to speak to RSBH about overseeing this-it's surely a good idea.
mortonjag 2008-07-25 22:40:53
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 25 2008, 10:26 PM) [snapback]484075[/snapback]
we await the manifesto from our very own tit

Do you ever post when sober Alistair?
mortonjag 2008-07-25 22:44:56
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jul 25 2008, 10:02 PM) [snapback]484065[/snapback]
Silver = no personality I may as well rope myself up or change my name by deed poll

Don't take it too personally Chrissiboi-folk who think the colour of somebody's car signifies much are misguided fools.

Colour AND model-that's often different. Guys who drive psychedelic hearses are dead cert extraverts! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-25 22:46:21
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jul 25 2008, 10:16 PM) [snapback]484071[/snapback]
aw, sorry mentaljag. did i get under your skin there? what was it, the spelling mistake? or maybe you don't like to think of yourself as predictable.

well, boo hoo. why don't you call me 'sonny', it'll make you feel important again.

No. drink.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-25 22:57:46
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jul 25 2008, 10:39 PM) [snapback]484077[/snapback]
Settle down now old yin.

Firstly, don't accuse me of lying. Let's have some common courtesy please. It's all about opinions after all.

Secondly, when you persist in sideways, frontways, east, west, north, south but mostly backways digs at Dougie on many, many, many threads on this board then I'm sure you'll excuse me for forming the opinion that you resent all things Rae.

Oh, and did you just allude that 'Golden Casket at Fort Matilda is a Sweatshop' is a statement of fact? Maybe the mods want to consider the implications of that!
How about opinions dressed up as facts, does that interest you?

Settle down yourself! rolleyes.gif

Fact: You stated that I was resentful-NOT that that was your opinion! You have only now qualified that.

Fact: I mentioned 'a sweatshop at FEART MATILDA' laugh.gif -maybe the Mods would like to consider the implications of that indeed-oh-and thanks for inviting them-that's put you up MILES in my estimation! dry.gif

Fact: There is more than one way of presenting opinion, as those who have the wit to read my posts incisively will confirm.

Fact: I've been very calm all evening. It's been a beautiful day here-it's still 20 C outside-I've had a lovely chicken tikka tandoori masala, appropriately washed down, and shortly I'm off to bed with the Monkey! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 08:00:52 'Young striker ready for final push'
Paul McGowan has 10 months to extend a Celtic career that has already spanned 10 years.

The 20 year-old striker has taken advantage of a rash of injuries and absentees, as well as Celtic's reluctance to rush into making new signings, and forced his way into first-team contention during the club's tour of Portugal.

Entering the final year of his contract, McGowan is aware of the need to make a telling impact if his association with the club he joined a decade ago isn't to be severed next summer.
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"I've got a year left so it's make or break for me. If I don't do well this season then who knows where I will be playing next year? I'm coming to an age where I am going to need regular first-team football but it's a dog-eat-dog world.

"A few injuries have happened that have given me my chance. I know that's a hard thing to say but it's true. The gaffer is putting on young boys - look at Paul Caddis playing against Barcelona in the Champions League last season.

"I feel that if I can hang in there then, hopefully, my time will come. If not then you hold your hands up and say it wasn't meant to be. Leaving Celtic would be the hardest thing to do. But I believe in myself and think I can become a Celtic player if I get my chance."

After a successful season-long loan spell at Morton in 2006/07, where he finished the campaign as the club's top scorer, McGowan realised a lifelong dream when he finally made his first-team debut for the Parkhead side against Inverness Caledonian Thistle last September.

"I've been at the club since I was about 10 so to run out at Celtic Park was a dream come true," he recalled. "I used to clean the boots at the club so to be part of the first-team set-up now is amazing. To go out and play in front of 60,000 is a dream."

McGowan, who does not expect to be allowed to go back out on loan this season, cited Stephen McManus, the Celtic captain, as his role model.

"I just have to look at Stephen McManus. Look how long he waited to get a chance and now he's the Celtic captain and playing week in, week out. That's got to be an incentive for everyone. He had to bide his time then the gaffer came in and gave him his chance and then gave him the captaincy."
mortonjag 2008-07-26 08:09:54
QUOTE(Clydebuilt @ Jul 26 2008, 12:04 AM) [snapback]484104[/snapback]
I don't get all this antagonism towards the Millions logo on the strips - I like the font (thinks it's quite funky to be honest). When people say they hate the logo, I'm not quite sure what irks them.

If it's a question of aesthetics - I like it it but each to their own.

If it's a moral issue i.e. Millions rot kiddies teeth - fair do's - I fully understand that.

If it's a financial thing i.e. Dougie has knocked back better money in favour of promoting his own company - unwelcome but owner's perogative unfortunately.

Finally, Mortonjag - why do you allude to 1st August in your avatar? If something's going down pray tell. I'm not into all that secretive PM nonsense, so a straight forward answer will suffice, ta.

George

To somebody who can understand the inner workings of port-ton's mind, that question is a total conundrum.

Oh, and BTW, I do exchange personal messages-they are intended to be a secret, just as I imagine, is the number of times you've had your nookie in the last year!

Happy to answer the question once I know what it is! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 08:12:47
QUOTE(Clydebuilt @ Jul 26 2008, 12:23 AM) [snapback]484114[/snapback]
I echo these wise sentiments.....

So do I George, even if Forza is a total buzzelcrud.

Incidentally, why does your avatar depict a soup can? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 08:14:55
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jul 24 2008, 03:44 PM) [snapback]483205[/snapback]
The lights are on Russell but there's no-one at the wheel these days.

EXACTLY my boy-they can't steer LEAFY a through pass for peanuts.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 08:18:55 My IO's reading an Ian Rankin book. She claim's he's a Morton supporter.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 08:25:13
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 26 2008, 02:53 AM) [snapback]484131[/snapback]
It used to be said of the Liberal party in the 60s and 70s that they could fit into a London cab. If the 22.54% swing from Labour last night were replicated at the next general election, Labour would be looking at about four taxis, or possibly a stretch limo.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2008/ju...donbrown.labour
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

anyone got an appropriate caption for this wee photo ?

"Come unto me, all ye that labour, and are heavy-laden, and I will give you rest"
mortonjag 2008-07-26 08:29:16
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 25 2008, 11:32 PM) [snapback]484094[/snapback]
Like girl on girl?

More like shagging a lemon's hole.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 08:31:09
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jul 25 2008, 11:57 PM) [snapback]484099[/snapback]
f*** up u pair of boring, irrelevant old sacks

There is clearly no queuer for you.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 08:52:54
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jul 26 2008, 12:37 AM) [snapback]484117[/snapback]
there's a poster on here who's a doctor
when his mother gave birth they all mocked her
what had just slithered out
of her big hairy clout
made her query the species that c***ed her



That post equates to laughing at your own jokes. It's a passable Limerick-no more. Anyway I see you avoided the question! mad.gif

Oh my Forza has a plooky nose
His underpants are broon
His hands are worn and smell of pee
He'll need to wash them soon

So fair art thee my bonny lad
So deep in love am I
And I will love thee still, my dear
Till a' the seas gang dry.

Till a' the seas gang dry, my dear
I still will hump your bum
And I will love you still my dear,
My sense of smell is numb.

And fare thee well my only love
Get treatment for thae piles
And I will come again my love
Tho' it were ten thousand miles..
mortonjag 2008-07-26 09:02:15
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jul 26 2008, 08:01 AM) [snapback]484135[/snapback]
I don't mind plates with initials and maybe numbers that mean something to the person who owns it. People who try and make the plate look like their name with numbers, that obviously look f*** all like the name, that's different. rolleyes.gif

Correct Mrs T-I call those 'Mickey Mouse' numbers-they are often utterly pathetic.

The market in proper cherished numbers has been diluted by those clowns. I bought my private plate for my son's hire limo seven years ago-cost £8000. Now I'd be lucky to get £5000 back, and that's the only reason I'm hanging on to it. Patience will be rewarded when the Mickey Mouse plates become more common than the standard ones from the DVLA-I believe we're almost there already!

Oh and Forza-the cheapest private plates start at about £70, less than you'll have to spend on that Coal Tar Soap. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 09:03:54
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jul 26 2008, 08:39 AM) [snapback]484153[/snapback]
It is a sweatshop.

smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 09:05:02
QUOTE(Staples @ Jul 26 2008, 08:35 AM) [snapback]484151[/snapback]
cheers something less to worry about happy.gif

You can still use the stand and smoke outside-adjacent to the commercial office and toilets.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 09:17:35
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jul 26 2008, 09:09 AM) [snapback]484162[/snapback]
I used to like Wright's Coal Tar soap, not had it for years though. Get yourself into Lush and treat yourself to some lovely soap MJ, i am currently using a porridge one, lovely. wub.gif

I don't like pouffe soaps-I want to smell like a real man! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 09:21:53
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Jul 26 2008, 09:15 AM) [snapback]484164[/snapback]
It's on the playlist...

Way ahead of ye Mrs T wink.gif

May I request that you play 'Blockbuster' today. I'm sure Shoogly will approve of a choon by 'The Sweet'.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 09:59:28
QUOTE(Clydebuilt @ Jul 26 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]484174[/snapback]
....I suppose asking for a straight answer was a bit whimsical, ah well......

unsure.gif

The board's (arguably) most lateral thinker is bemused.

My 'avatar' and 1st August-maybe if you give a tiny clue you'll get your answer! happy.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 10:04:07
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Jul 26 2008, 09:22 AM) [snapback]484167[/snapback]
They have mens soaps as well. You can get Bob Soap, that's for men, or Happy Hippy, i thin k that would suit you best. wink.gif



I have a cornucopia of unused pouffe soaps Mrs T-my IO keeps threatening to offload them to 'Children in Need'.

Wright's Coal Tar Soap is the biz-it gets into parts other soaps can't reach! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 10:07:14
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jul 26 2008, 09:35 AM) [snapback]484172[/snapback]
laugh.gif rich flash t*** despises poor flash twats for ruining his investment. that's a real f***ing tearjerker, that is.

laugh.gif

Sold yer wee top floor tenement yet?

QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Jul 26 2008, 09:47 AM) [snapback]484173[/snapback]
I agree about private numbers being a waste of money, if I was a multi-millionaire I wouldn't have one, don't see the point in them myself, but each to their own.


They WERE an investment until the DVLA got greedy.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 10:09:38
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Jul 26 2008, 09:23 AM) [snapback]484168[/snapback]
Maybes aye.

I've got some Prokofiev for you!

p.s. the band is called 'Sweet'. No 'The'! wink.gif

Not the one about Spoonsy and the baying fans? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 10:11:52
QUOTE(Clydebuilt @ Jul 26 2008, 09:58 AM) [snapback]484175[/snapback]
I like Andy Warhol's work, thought it was a cool picture.

Re my question about your avatar, it was your quote in big letters about Dougie being leader until 1st Agust I was asking about, even if that's not an avatar? smile.gif

So you got it wrong!

Please copy and paste the quote, and I shall provide your answer.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 10:14:05
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Jul 26 2008, 10:12 AM) [snapback]484183[/snapback]
I have no preference to colour of car, current model is I believe called British Racing Green, metallic job and looks well when I can be arsed washing it.

The only colour I truly hated was one that Toyota did a few years ago on their Corollas - it was hearing aid beige and I can't believe anyone bought one of them.

TonInDublin



Correction-NHS hearing aid beige-otherwise known as muted keech.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 10:15:22
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jul 26 2008, 10:13 AM) [snapback]484184[/snapback]
no, we're renting it out. perhaps you can spell out the connection between me selling my flat and you running about in the automotive equivalent of a sovereign ring?

Overpriced-I effin knew it! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 10:19:50
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 26 2008, 10:14 AM) [snapback]484185[/snapback]
I lived in Airdrie for several months.

The Train station 'Airdrie' is on the Drumgelloch line and as correctly pointed out is one stop before The Drum.
You get a low level train from Queen St and there every 15mins leaving at 12,27,42 and 57minutes past the hour.
Journey time is appox 25mins.

There's a cracking wee pub just up from the Station called The Imperial which I'd recommend if you fancy a few in Airdrie before going to the game.

They'll call you a cab if you then want to go the the Stadium which is probably a couple of miles away.

Alternatively there's plenty of taxi's that sit right outside Airdrie Station.


I didn't know you'd been a temporary 'Nazi', Willy Man. I was a G.P.in the town for ten years and still confuse Cairnhill Rd., with Carlisle Rd-the reason I thought Airdie Station was closer to the football stadium-which I always still imagine to be at Broomfield!

I'm sure you'll agree that Airdrie is a douce wee presbyterian toon-and anything but 'Nazi'! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 10:21:43
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jul 26 2008, 10:17 AM) [snapback]484189[/snapback]
well, i'm no on the swally noo but private reg plates are still for wankers. i knew mortonjag would have one rolleyes.gif

It's a beautiful blue!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 10:24:43
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 26 2008, 10:22 AM) [snapback]484192[/snapback]
*groan*
Anyway, strangely not excited by this one...but I'll go for 1-0 home victory. Wake to get the goal and Russell to be caught offside approximately 3,500 times.



COPYCAT-and it WILL be


LEAFY
mortonjag 2008-07-26 10:26:27
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Jul 26 2008, 10:22 AM) [snapback]484193[/snapback]
Nice car mate.

TY Weegie-the Monkey and Fing are very proud of daddy's motor! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 10:29:05
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 26 2008, 10:26 AM) [snapback]484196[/snapback]
You've been trying to float that nickname since he arrived and it's still not caught on. Give it up Dr....

Don't you dare attribute motives to my simple and innocent postings.

For me, he'll always be


LEAFY
mortonjag 2008-07-26 10:30:25
QUOTE(Mr.Kennedy @ Jul 26 2008, 10:28 AM) [snapback]484198[/snapback]
I noticed that at the Ayr game, sure it wasn't the first time but I have a bad memory.

Maybe Shoogly knew more about the home fans than we imagined!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 11:06:00
QUOTE(Clydebuilt @ Jul 26 2008, 10:34 AM) [snapback]484203[/snapback]
QUOTE(Mags @ Jul 24 2008, 08:28 PM)
Both parties benefit ....where's the harm in that ?
I wouldn't call Spain,Portugal,Canary Islands,Balearics etc 'outlandish places'

The company even had a prime advertising spot during The Simpsons...hardly haphazard but as I said,the name isn't important as long as the club benefit from it.

Mags.

Well nobody's heard of them in Warrington, Redcar, or Poolewe!
QUOTE(Mags @ Jul 24 2008, 08:29 PM)
Long live Shoogly....
Mags.

Indeed-LONG LIVE SHOOGLY TILL AUGUST 1ST

Oh that Georgie Boy-you WILL need to keep up! rolleyes.gif

I've promised to 'bury' Shoogly for three months from August 1st, in aid of Ardgowan Hospice.

That is provided somebody gets things properly organised.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 11:13:55
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jul 26 2008, 10:58 AM) [snapback]484221[/snapback]
i might get a car. are they any good? i've seen some people driving them.

Might be best to get the feel of a mobility scooter first-they're all the rage those days, and can go places normal cars can't reach.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 11:16:28
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jul 26 2008, 10:27 AM) [snapback]484197[/snapback]
so what's the connection between my flat and your vanity plate?

Somebody mentioned a connection between my innocent wee number plate and your flagrant Capitalism? huh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 11:18:22
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 26 2008, 11:13 AM) [snapback]484230[/snapback]
It's because you no longer 'Deal With Drugs' that you've been refused re-entry.




I see he couldn't sell it anyway, so I don't care! tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 11:32:50
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jul 26 2008, 11:29 AM) [snapback]484246[/snapback]
eh? what the f*** are you on about now.

and it might be an innocent number plate to you, but to most people it's a big yellow badge that says 'arsehole'.

laugh.gif

Even to flagrant Capitalists trying to flog a top floor tenement for a cool quarter of a million.

I warned you about leaving those mingin' trainers on top of the Aga. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 11:39:08
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 26 2008, 11:35 AM) [snapback]484249[/snapback]
When you typoed this the re-count was just about complete.

They just take an age to announce it.

All votes were counted by 12.45am and the result was known within minutes.
SNP victory.

The problem and the reason for the recount, was that there was two Curran's on the ballot paper right next to each other and with it being such a slender majority and the pressure put on the Enumerators by the activists and media could easily have led to them being mixed up or put in the wrong bundle.

1.15am re-count started and within 30mins it was finished, normally at this stage we'd be allowed to go however we were not dismissed until 2.45am !!!

I've got to say the media attention was unbelievable, there must have been at least a dozen TV camera's on the staging with another dozen mobile, that's not counting the Newspaper reporters and cameramen.

There's a two foot barrier they're not meant to cross between them and Enumerators but that was soon demolished as the boxes arrived.

I had a camera approx 6inch from my face, not a pretty sight for the cameraman laugh.gif , and the shouting and questioning towards us was unreal.

We also had a trained TV camera, bird was beautiful mind you, on us at all times and about 8 folk permanently based in front of our table just staring at you and counting as you're counting which can be quite off putting.

When Curran amd Mason arrived it was media mayhem and then instead of continuing to walk by mason stopped at one of the Enumerators tables for a photo shoot, chaos reigned.

One of the counters beside me was mason's Secretary so he came over in between counts and seemed very pleasant to talk to. I also got speaking to a really genuine lady Glasgow Listed SNP MSP and thought wouldn't it be great if Inverclyde could be represented by a person who cares rather than that eejit Cairns.

Sarwar and his cronies were alos present, and good ole Tommy Boy who gave Curran an exceptional welsome.

Once the cheering of her presence had calmed down Tommy BOy got up and started to sing, Cheerio, Cheerio, Cheerio.

We were all Pissing ourselves with laughter.

Anyway eventually got away and Casino bound I was.

Let's just say when I left the casino McDonalds had opened and daylight was well upon me.

1.5hrs kip and it was up again to go to work.

As I had been made a job offer, late on the Thursday, I was still buzzing so tiredness was not an issue, until we went for a pub lunch and a few pints.

Mid-Afternoon Willowman was inspecting the insides of his eyelids laugh.gif
All in all a great experience and very easy money if you can shut yourself off from the jostling crowds.




Was he looking exceptionally brown?
mortonjag 2008-07-26 11:46:53
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jul 26 2008, 11:39 AM) [snapback]484253[/snapback]
are you keeping notes on me, you creepy old man?

blink.gif

I keep a close eye on all the extremes of our pubic massage board-from those epitomes of the working man in their grossy overpriced Hyndland penthouses, right down to the Pompously Plagiaristic SPARROT weans in their knife crime rife schemes. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 11:48:08
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 26 2008, 11:40 AM) [snapback]484255[/snapback]
Nae luck, I'm driving to the game, so it's sobriety central for me. sad.gif

Hopefully the new motor won't get tanned by all those yobs in waiting!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 11:50:20
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jul 26 2008, 11:31 AM) [snapback]484247[/snapback]
naw. they're pish, buy a bike instead.

Indeed- a bicyclette sans private plate is the hallmark of the Hyndland ponce! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 11:53:29
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 26 2008, 11:36 AM) [snapback]484250[/snapback]
Holed below the waterline. tongue.gif

Does Mummy know you've been shagging in the bath SPARROT?
mortonjag 2008-07-26 12:00:06
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jul 26 2008, 11:57 AM) [snapback]484273[/snapback]
laugh.gif you've got a wee database going, don't you? i bet you're on some databases yourself, you creepy wee fart.

I wouldn't know a database if I met it in my porridge.

I can spot a Capitalist from a mile away-wearing rose tints and a clothes peg on my bugle! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 12:02:33
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jul 26 2008, 12:00 PM) [snapback]484277[/snapback]
i prefer to call mine 'le velo'.

Ponciness par excellence-I take it you call your partner's poosy 'mon petit chat'! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 12:15:35
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Jul 26 2008, 12:07 PM) [snapback]484281[/snapback]
That's how I recognised him laugh.gif

Can't keep a good chancer down-eh! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 12:17:31
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 26 2008, 11:58 AM) [snapback]484276[/snapback]
Your lack of wit is only matched by your lack of invention.
Must do better.
1/10.

Twas a serious question-clearly I was attributing more subtlety to you than you merit.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 12:21:58
QUOTE(big blue eyes @ Jul 26 2008, 12:19 PM) [snapback]484288[/snapback]
He is lovely!

Zoe wub.gif

He is older than you, and married with a child-why don't you focus on somebody your own age? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 12:24:12
QUOTE(big blue eyes @ Jul 26 2008, 12:23 PM) [snapback]484292[/snapback]
Go away you sad old creep. unsure.gif

Would you like to visit Mortonjag's cellar, child? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 12:28:01
QUOTE(big blue eyes @ Jul 26 2008, 12:27 PM) [snapback]484296[/snapback]
You're truly a sick old man. I don't believe a word about you being a doctor. My Mum thinks you probably ARE a pervert.

Now I'm off to get sorted for the game-so don't waste your time with another of your pathetic replies. nerd.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-26 12:29:32
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 26 2008, 12:25 PM) [snapback]484294[/snapback]
No: you were, as usual, being facetious.
A stuck record indeed.

Ok-I give in-I knew all the time that you've never had your hole.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 12:32:54
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jul 26 2008, 12:30 PM) [snapback]484299[/snapback]
sad.gif

Yada..yada..yada..backtrack..bactrack..

Save it for your impressionable 12 year olds MJ wink.gif

Glorious again today, looks like I'll be cutting the grass while you lot are off enjoying the mighties horsing the skunks sad.gif


Aye well chop off a couple of toes while you're at it! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 12:35:00
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 26 2008, 12:33 PM) [snapback]484301[/snapback]
Clearly Mortonjag's "knowledge" is unfounded.

Hmm-you WERE posing as Port-ton that night-my arse took a week to recover.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 12:36:57
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Jul 26 2008, 12:34 PM) [snapback]484302[/snapback]
Are you a reporter, or do you work in a paper shop? unsure.gif

She works in a dentists-maybe just filling you in.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 12:39:09
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jul 26 2008, 12:36 PM) [snapback]484304[/snapback]
laugh.gif

So where does this rate on the Mortonjag sliding scale of fact vs opinion biggrin.gif

It seems her Mum is of the opinion that Mortonjag is a pervert, and that the child is of the opinion that Mortonjag is not a doctor.

Mortonjag is a perverted ex doctor-so they both got some of it right I guess.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 12:40:44
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Jul 26 2008, 12:38 PM) [snapback]484306[/snapback]
Boom Boom! rolleyes.gif I love it on here, people know everything about everything! wink.gif

I extract my information solely from our massage board, Your Majesty!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 12:45:24
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jul 26 2008, 12:43 PM) [snapback]484310[/snapback]
laugh.gif

I always fear the worst vs the skunko's, so I'll say 2-1 to them and hope for the best.

I'm embarrassed to say this yet again.

1-0 to the Ton.


leafy laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 12:54:46
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jul 26 2008, 12:52 PM) [snapback]484314[/snapback]
So you've heard about my lawn mowing skills tongue.gif

I know all about your chopper too! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 12:58:42
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jul 26 2008, 12:56 PM) [snapback]484318[/snapback]
According to Mabawsa Ritchie, who usually seems to know his/her stuff, over on P&B we've sold almost 1100 tickets so far for this season, that sounds pretty good to me but does anyone know how that stacks up with previous seasons?

The first season after Shug when tickets were massively discounted I think we sold somewhere around the same number.

I predict sales will be much higher at that point.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 13:00:51
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jul 26 2008, 12:57 PM) [snapback]484319[/snapback]
Was McGowan our top scorer that year?

I thought it was Weatherson by some way, but perhaps Gowsa scored more in the league if that's what it meant.

Maybe they meant the wee man was our top 'STRIKER'!


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mortonjag 2008-07-26 13:07:34
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jul 26 2008, 01:03 PM) [snapback]484322[/snapback]
Indeed, just don't smoke!

F'cking disgusting standing beside some one trying to make cancerbags of us all.

Even worse having to move away from them. dry.gif

Shove them all in the one corner of Sinclair St away from the healthy(er) people!


That's not so much passive smoking as nicotine terrorism!

At least we don't have to suffer from them the effects of that extra pre-kick off swally-last time some drink sodden slob pished all over my new trainers in the lavvy.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 13:21:50
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 26 2008, 01:08 PM) [snapback]484325[/snapback]
I assure that had nothing to do with drink. rolleyes.gif

Wrong again SPARROT, and I had to get a taxi home. blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 13:23:41
QUOTE(Cawston @ Jul 26 2008, 01:18 PM) [snapback]484328[/snapback]
Groin strain? laugh.gif

Hernia? blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 13:25:45
QUOTE(Methadome Here We Come @ Jul 26 2008, 01:08 PM) [snapback]484324[/snapback]
There's some seriously narrow minded souls on this thread I'm afraid.

Some St Mirren fans aren't happy with the move, but they are the delusional ones. The fact is that we had a big debt due to mismanagement by a previous board. We had no way of paying this off, apart from selling the ground. That has now been done and we are in the black for the first time in the best part of 2 decades.

With the move are now in a position where we can consolidate in the SPL. If the ground hadn't been sold then I've got no doubt that we'd be playing your lot next season. Clearing the debt in the last year allowed us to pay more wages to bring in Haining, Dargo, Mason, Dorman, etc and they helped us finish 10th. Dorman is, arguably, the best player we've had at the club since the 1980s.

We'd be in a worse situation than Killie who will probably be settling back into lower league football in the near future. Our prize money / Setanta money for last season was £900K. In a couple of years this will be up to around £1.5 million. I believe that the prize money for winning the first division is somewhere around £40K. The gap between SPL and SFL is going to widen considerably in the next few years. Yep it's fairly hideous and doesn't do Scottish football any good as a whole, but you've got to be selfish and I know where I want my club to be. I'm sure you'd think the same.

So....... give all of that up to stay at Love Street? Ehhh no thanks. I want to see St Mirren moving forward and we are.

As for the new place itself, I think it will be what we make of it. Love Street has 'character', but it's a 19th century football stadium and I think the atmosphere has been pish since the seats went in. The home fans are a long way away from the away fans and the North Bank is too shallow to generate any noise. The argument against these lego stadiums is that they're soulless and there's definitely some truth in that. It will be very similar to others and people hate places like Rugby Park, McDiarmid, Broadwood, etc.

The difference is that these grounds have about 8000 empty seats every week. That's not going to happen at our place 'The Methadome' will be smaller and it's actually a perfect size for a provincial Scottish club. It should always be at least half full with fans in every stand close to the pitch. There's the financial side of it as well. We've got conference facilities, 5 a-side pitches, corporate hospitality rooms, which = £££££££. We need to generate more money off the pitch to compete in the SPL.

Anyway, you can judge for yourselves when you visit for the Renfrewshire Cup next season. Unfortunately for you, you won't be playing us in the league any time soon. The days of St Mirren scrambling around in the 1st division are gone and unless your board comes up with something similar to ours then you'll never play SPL football.

They'll probably accept that from a skunk, better than from their own!!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 13:31:20
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 26 2008, 01:23 PM) [snapback]484333[/snapback]
I suspect that had more to do with age than alcohol.

Well you're wrong-I normally open my legs very wide, carefully remove my little wrinkly friend, and let him dribble gravitationally for however long it takes-sometimes, but not always-I've time to grab a Bovril on the way back. Never before have I splattered my pink trainers, and NEVER before have I been unfit to drive home.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 13:34:14
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 26 2008, 01:32 PM) [snapback]484340[/snapback]
Every day is a day older. blush.gif

How can a day have an age?
mortonjag 2008-07-26 13:36:11
QUOTE(Methadome Here We Come @ Jul 26 2008, 01:32 PM) [snapback]484342[/snapback]
Amazed that you're able to see into the future!

If you're really interested it will look something the lines of Shrewsbury's new stadium when completed;

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDI like that-the colours are excellent!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 13:44:54
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 26 2008, 01:40 PM) [snapback]484346[/snapback]
Not only incontinent but facetious.
Never a good mix.

Prostatism does not equate to incontinence.

I'm just about to leave for the match.


C'Mon LEAFY
mortonjag 2008-07-26 13:48:13
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jul 26 2008, 01:45 PM) [snapback]484350[/snapback]
You take life too seriously.

You should go out and buy a hamster and a cat and put them in a cage and let them fight to the death.
That's what civilised people do, Kilma neanderthal.

She's only a sweet young lass who doesn't understand this auld c*nt GG!

Anyway-toodlepip and


C'MON LEAFY

p.s. hope Newby's on the bench! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 20:14:46
QUOTE(Russell#1 @ Jul 26 2008, 05:35 PM) [snapback]484400[/snapback]
1-1 and The midden win on pens.

LEAFY 2


(1 Pen, and NOT ONE OFFSIDE)
mortonjag 2008-07-26 20:17:03
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jul 26 2008, 06:26 PM) [snapback]484425[/snapback]
LEAFY

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Leafy was utterly AMAZING!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 20:22:34
QUOTE(stuart @ Jul 26 2008, 03:10 PM) [snapback]484360[/snapback]
Hard lines Leafy.

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QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jul 26 2008, 03:27 PM) [snapback]484361[/snapback]
1-0 Russell - Mon the TON


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QUOTE(rawheed rex @ Jul 26 2008, 05:12 PM) [snapback]484394[/snapback]
what the f uck was greacen hiting first pen all a boot ph34r.gif

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QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 26 2008, 06:24 PM) [snapback]484424[/snapback]
Wasn't a great game by any matter of means due to it not being comepletly compeititive, some wee nigly moments as you would expect, but not a full blooded affair.

Morton started brightly, with Russell in good form from the start. He deservedly got a goal and MotM. He looks up for it this season.
Newby still has to settle in by the looks of it. Plenty of effort and running though.

The midfield needs a player like Jenkins to come in to help Masterton create chances. Too many defensive midfielders at the moment all playing the same game.

Our goalie gave us a few heart in the mouth moments by refusing to come off his line. For his height he doesn't comand his area at all. Didn't have a bad game apart from that.

All in all, not too bad a performance in a game that looked like a friendly to me. Pleased with Finlayson and especially Russell who had a great game.

McAllister is playing too deep in my opinion, and as mentioned a bit wasted in that position


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QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Jul 26 2008, 06:31 PM) [snapback]484428[/snapback]
Stewart - Was impressed with him again. Good shot stopping and distribution was perfectly fine. One moment of indecision between him and Greacen but otherwise he definately looks an improvement on our last two goalkeepers

McGuffie - Started off well in defence but got lost in the second half when he moved into midfield. The odd good tackle or pass here and there in an otherwise quiet performance.

Walker - Looked vastly off the pace and hardly won a header against Mehmet all game. Too often left McAlister having to pick up two players. Hopefully when he gets back to full fitness he will get back to the form that he was in towards the end of last season.

Weatherson - Very good performance, calm and assured on the ball and defended pretty soundly.

Paartalu - Very quiet performance, didn't get forward particularly well and didn't track back to much effect. A player I think has potential at this club but he still has to find how best he operates in a central midfield trio because today he was rarely in the right place at the right time.

Masterton - A player who looks thoroughly composed on the ball and is able to spread passes to great effect. Set pieces getting closer to how they were for Clyde. Played some excellent cutting passes which mainly Newby lapped up, none more so than in the build up to a very well-worked goal. His penalty was first class too!

McAlister - Was fine without being fantastic. Still struggles to a certain degree with his positioning in both an attacking and defending sense, but I would always have him in the first XI

Russell - Good finish and got into some great positions. Excellent control throughout and I don't think he was caught offside once! His partnership with Newby worked well and he gave the Scum defence a torrid time when he pulled out wide or into the channels. Cracking work-rate.

Wake - Injured, no time to impress

Newby - Pacy, agile and with a good first touch. Teasing cross to set up Russell for the goal and I am a bit happier now that we will have strikers who will trouble first division defences this season.

Finlayson - Phenomenal amount of work and had the better of his opposite number throughout. Didn't make many telling crosses but gives so much to the team that he will be in the starting XI when available.

SUB:

Greacen - Considering he was rushed back from injury he played very well. One scary moment with Stewart, but was otherwise fine. He has his deficiencies, but he knows his limitations and wears his heart on his sleeve.

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mortonjag 2008-07-26 20:27:26 If anybody tells me this guy is an improvement on McGurn-he needs his heid looked. For a big man, his command of the box is NON-EXISTENT, and he flatly refuses to come off the line for anything.

Two good first half saves don't make up for inexplicable incompetence. WTF was he EVER signed? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 20:29:31
GIRUY


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mortonjag 2008-07-26 20:30:46
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jul 26 2008, 07:09 PM) [snapback]484459[/snapback]
£180k up blink.gif

Looks like our famous negotiating skills are in evidence again.

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mortonjag 2008-07-26 20:35:23
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Jul 26 2008, 08:31 PM) [snapback]484539[/snapback]
I agree that Stewart does not command his box and for a big guy he could do better, I wonder if David Wylie can help him improve on that, then again is Stewarts old man not a well known keeping coach so maybe there is no hope!

However I thought his kicking was decent.

It was average today-half of his kicks went straight to Midden players. Against lowly Dumbarton it was DIRE!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 20:40:17
QUOTE(The Shuffler @ Jul 26 2008, 08:34 PM) [snapback]484543[/snapback]
I dont "hate" the guy but i wouldn't go too overboard about him going on todays performance. He could & should have had a hatrick. Still gets robbed of posession too easily & lacks composure at times.

Take nothing away from him today though, played well scored, deserved his MOM.

Utter unadulterated crap and requires explanation-one cracking shot which skimmed the outside of the left post, and just failed to get onto a very difficult cross from the left. Cracking cool penalty-plenty of hold up and lay off play, not offside once, kept going for 90 minutes in baking heat, and still folk tell lies! ph34r.gif

QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 26 2008, 08:35 PM) [snapback]484545[/snapback]
Indeed, thought Russel played really well. Also delighted he's finally decided to understand the whole concept of the offside rule. smile.gif

He ALWAYS understood the bloody rule-folk are at last learning how to play with the guy! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 20:42:33
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 26 2008, 07:43 PM) [snapback]484498[/snapback]
You are jesting surely ? laugh.gif

Along with Russell and Finlayson, Weatherson was superb !

Finlayson was anything but superb-why do folk always make allowances for this man?

QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 26 2008, 08:39 PM) [snapback]484548[/snapback]
Yet more wonderful insight from the Dr... rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-26 20:44:45 I thought he had a fair game and at least managed to get several inviting balls forward. The 1-2-3 with Newbs and LEAFY was easily the best move of the match. He's still a bit erratic but looks like an asset.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 20:46:59 DI and Greacen were having a good old laugh together before the shoot out. DI looked pretty relaxed and obviously wasn't too fussed about the final result.

As at Forfar, letting Stu take penalties is NOT A F*CKIN' JOKE! dry.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 20:49:08
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 26 2008, 08:45 PM) [snapback]484554[/snapback]
Maybe because he's one of the more consistent performers in the current group?

Aye like Koko the clown-great squad player IF you have a squad! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 20:50:38
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Jul 26 2008, 08:49 PM) [snapback]484559[/snapback]
Greacen hit the penalty well enough, the keeper made a great save though.

Newbs, LEAFY, and Masty took excellent penalties. Stu's hit and hope did not work! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 20:54:01
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jul 26 2008, 08:52 PM) [snapback]484562[/snapback]
What I did notice was that I remember their 'keeper saving both penalties to his left, and not getting near any to his right.

I think.

He has a gammy right arm!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 20:57:08
QUOTE(The Shuffler @ Jul 26 2008, 08:38 PM) [snapback]484547[/snapback]
I thought he did okay today, tbh he's no better or worse than we've had in the past few seasons.



QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 26 2008, 08:41 PM) [snapback]484550[/snapback]
Yeah, didn't see too much wrong with Colin today.

Anybody remember the number of times it was 'his ball' and he stood on his line scratching his arse?

On one occasion big Stu had to make a last minute lunge and give away a corner as the goalie froze speechless! The Midden's free header goal from six yards should have been his from the minute the ball was played over.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 20:59:21
QUOTE(axeman @ Jul 26 2008, 08:57 PM) [snapback]484568[/snapback]
I thought Miranda was very lucky not to get sent off in the 2nd half, retaliation, another wee tussle later then mouthing off at the ref, with just a booking for the 1st one to show for it. Poor refereeing from Brines again.

Also though it was ridiculous that McAusland wasn't told to get off the park in the 2nd half as the blood from his head wound was seeping through his bandage. Beany's shirt had big streaks of blood on the back of it at one point. In this day & age I thought blood injuries like that had to be sorted right away not allowed to splash all over those in the vicinity. God knows what infections you could get from a skunk.

What do you expect from a Pishley Polis? mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 21:02:51
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Jul 26 2008, 08:59 PM) [snapback]484572[/snapback]
Greacen took the first penalty in the Challenge Cup semi defeat to that lot a few years ago and confidently stuck it in the bottom corner, sending the keeper the wrong way. Just wasn't to be this time, that's how things go. No point dwelling on it now, eh.

C'MON THE GINGERS

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mortonjag 2008-07-26 21:05:47
QUOTE(centralTON @ Jul 26 2008, 08:59 PM) [snapback]484570[/snapback]
Not convinced the fans hate him MJ, they are just frustrated by his inability to keep himself onside.

WERE

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mortonjag 2008-07-26 21:07:18 Continuing conundrum-so good and SO BAD! blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 21:09:51 Alistair was in attendance today. I gave him a wee smile and he smiled back! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 21:11:31
QUOTE(centralTON @ Jul 26 2008, 09:09 PM) [snapback]484582[/snapback]
Yeh, read that too ThornTON.

I always keep 'Shoogly Peg' as my bedtime reading. Better than any nightcap.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 21:16:45
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 26 2008, 09:12 PM) [snapback]484588[/snapback]
Love at first sight? wub.gif rolleyes.gif

Indeed-Mortonjag is irresistable!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 21:19:51
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 26 2008, 09:11 PM) [snapback]484586[/snapback]
still not sure about newby yes he had an assist, but havent really seen him shoot or win a header yet.

You missed my toes again, so stop criticising. have you been losing some weight BTW? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 21:22:03
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 26 2008, 09:08 PM) [snapback]484580[/snapback]
i thought he did fine...



QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 26 2008, 09:11 PM) [snapback]484584[/snapback]
Hmm, you trying to break your own record for most posts in a night? rolleyes.gif
Anyway, Jim done just fine today. Unless you were watching a different game Dr.?

NOPE-just trying to get some bloody conversation going.

FINE

F*cked up, introverted, neurotic, and exhausted?
mortonjag 2008-07-26 21:25:57
QUOTE(centralTON @ Jul 26 2008, 09:21 PM) [snapback]484597[/snapback]
Pleased that I could offer you a platform to introduce the name "shoogly" into a thread, cos that doesn't happen often. laugh.gif


True-I MUST do better!


SHOOGLY-SHOOGLY-SHOOGLY-SHOOGLY-SHOOGLY-SHOOGLY
mortonjag 2008-07-26 21:27:38
QUOTE(centralTON @ Jul 26 2008, 09:25 PM) [snapback]484601[/snapback]
Is that you or JIm? laugh.gif

I'm just exhausted!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 21:30:24
QUOTE(centralTON @ Jul 26 2008, 09:24 PM) [snapback]484600[/snapback]
You don't to emphasise words to me, and anyway it should've read ARE. happy.gif

Seriously (for a moment CT), the abuse Ian has taken from several posters has been well OTT with some claiming they wanted rid of him. IMHO he's a damned good player at First Division level-it's just a shame we have two sham wingers.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 21:32:10
QUOTE(cmonaton @ Jul 26 2008, 09:23 PM) [snapback]484599[/snapback]
well my take on Colin Stewart is that he is no worse than what we had last season.i like the way he distributes the ball very quickly to set up attacks.he is a hell of a lot better than that wee ginger scroat thats supposed to be coming back.ffs some people on here are never fckin happy.

WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!

The wee ginger scrote sure gets on my tits too, but distribution is one of his best assets.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 21:33:24
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 26 2008, 09:21 PM) [snapback]484596[/snapback]
laugh.gif its the summer i dont have 5 million layers on

I thought you had a lean and purposeful look about you!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 21:35:42
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jul 26 2008, 09:18 PM) [snapback]484593[/snapback]
Good that Stewart came through the game unscathed and looking fairly decent as well . The penalty one of those things , Weatherson's looked weaker but he also looked ok at the back .

No doubt DI would have been happier with that performance than many others so it looks like the preseason has went to plan.

Disagree-I thought his commitment to coming off the line was abysmal. A good 'compromise' keeper, I suppose, and those big banana feet of his-is Julie into stimulation by big toe?
mortonjag 2008-07-26 21:38:37
QUOTE(centralTON @ Jul 26 2008, 09:36 PM) [snapback]484613[/snapback]
Honestly don't think I've given him abuse MJ, except for being the only person in football history to have been caught offside more often than Pippo Inzaghi. laugh.gif
I do see the potential as a striker and also think he is a player who benefits immensely when he's on a scoring run, but lets his head go down when he's not.

LEAFY'S HEAD NEVER GOES DOWN

He wasn't players' player of the year for nothing-a fantastic asset to any squad.


C'MON LEAFY
mortonjag 2008-07-26 21:39:47
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jul 26 2008, 09:38 PM) [snapback]484615[/snapback]
thought he had a quite game by his standards

Quite!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 21:41:42
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Jul 26 2008, 09:39 PM) [snapback]484617[/snapback]
get over yourself, your nickname is at best honking, but fair play he was the most likely today and long may it continue, i also thought newbie ran the channels well especially the first half, the second half was as flat as a snooker table but good to see those spl trained players are no great shakes and we were marginally the better team, we know honestly that we will at best be 6th, why try to antagonize(us spelling) . I for one don't expect a great season but all in all it will be progress. mon'e'ton

LEAFY RUSSELL

BEANY RUSSELL


I DO f***ING ASK YOU-are you all bloody Philistines?
mortonjag 2008-07-26 21:43:36
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 26 2008, 09:35 PM) [snapback]484612[/snapback]
nice new top he had on....

I thought the strip was MINGIN-blue and white hoops is what we play in at home! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 21:45:39
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jul 26 2008, 09:42 PM) [snapback]484626[/snapback]
Sorry Stewart Greacan not Colin Stewart ( who looks kinda scary )

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Oh aye-one of the 'calamity brothers'. I thought Stu did pretty well on his first day back against esspeehell-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA opposition!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 21:48:18
QUOTE(centralTON @ Jul 26 2008, 09:45 PM) [snapback]484632[/snapback]
And you're back with the oversized words, there's no need for emphasis if it's your opinion, you are entitled to that.

There's no need for undersized ones either.


C'MON LEAFY!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 21:50:07
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 26 2008, 09:35 PM) [snapback]484609[/snapback]
laugh.gif i was looking for you ph34r.gif laugh.gif

Next time I shall wear a blue and white stethy! I was tempted to say 'hello' but knew you'd be TERRIBLY disappointed! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 21:51:53
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jul 26 2008, 09:50 PM) [snapback]484635[/snapback]
It was left of centre so that counts as his left! tongue.gif

...and definitely not Bawheid territory!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 21:53:27
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Jul 26 2008, 09:51 PM) [snapback]484638[/snapback]
no nickname required, good performances on a regular basis would be more than acceptable, get a grip of your zillion posts and concentrate on what is the more important thing for REAL ton fans securing 1st div status rather than a catchy moniker you old f***ing mug laugh.gif

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First abuse of the evening after ? posts-must be a record! bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 21:55:00
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jul 26 2008, 09:52 PM) [snapback]484640[/snapback]
I thought the midden were ok , moved the ball well enough and their right back went to the Welly Academy . The substitutions showed the experience we will need to move onto the next level eventually .

Again, being serious for a moment-they took command in the last twenty minutes because we had no subs left!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 21:57:32 Reasonable performance-could he find his rightful place in midfield this season?
mortonjag 2008-07-26 21:59:36
QUOTE(centralTON @ Jul 26 2008, 09:15 PM) [snapback]484590[/snapback]
MJ, I read that too and it also said they were looking for £300,000k for him.

IMHO the wee man would be better f*cking off to another SPL club pronto-IF HE COULD!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:00:23
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 26 2008, 09:58 PM) [snapback]484645[/snapback]
Mj wasnt he signed originaly as a mid fielder?I think he was but cant be sure.

Attacking midfielder.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:02:11 Can somebody tell what happened please?
mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:02:59
QUOTE(centralTON @ Jul 26 2008, 10:02 PM) [snapback]484649[/snapback]
Agree, he's not going to play any sort of serious role at Celtic Park and would further his career by moving on.

FTOF! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:05:42 Must be the most anonymous player for years at Scapa. How come this guy pops up in all sorts of unexpected places-just when most needed.

Undervalued?
mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:07:09
QUOTE(Tyrannous @ Jul 26 2008, 10:05 PM) [snapback]484653[/snapback]
There is no need.

I don't have a clue what happened-was this at half time?
mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:07:50
QUOTE(Tyrannous @ Jul 26 2008, 10:06 PM) [snapback]484654[/snapback]
f*** up time.

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mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:15:04
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Jul 26 2008, 10:07 PM) [snapback]484656[/snapback]
from your perch oh so high
without your opinion we'd die
like gyles brandbreath on heat
mj savoured defeat
i aint a midden supporter he lied

A sad little fart-dirty dingus
asked mortonjag-'What's cunnilingus'?
The poor little fox- laugh.gif
Willie's still in the box
Advice son-if needed just ring us.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:17:18
QUOTE(Tyrannous @ Jul 26 2008, 10:10 PM) [snapback]484663[/snapback]
Your now his bitch.



QUOTE(Tyrannous @ Jul 26 2008, 10:12 PM) [snapback]484669[/snapback]
You better cover your mouth,he'll be tempted to slip his pecker in it.

I think both of you young gentlemen, would LOVE to visit Mortonjag's cellar.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:20:02
QUOTE(tolmie perms r bak @ Jul 26 2008, 10:16 PM) [snapback]484675[/snapback]
i thought stewarts pen was good it was a good save by st midden keeper i would be more worried about peters pen nice run up NOT ! smash the bloody thing mad.gif mad.gif

Is it possible to sort out Stuart from Stewart?
mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:21:51
QUOTE(tolmie perms r bak @ Jul 26 2008, 10:19 PM) [snapback]484680[/snapback]
give the guy a break , wee havent had a settled back 3 or 4 he has to get use to players we have changed our defence every game

we are worse than the old firm fans moan moan moan

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I don't moan except when port-ton's sooking my knob.

Stewart is GASH!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:23:11
QUOTE(Tyrannous @ Jul 26 2008, 10:21 PM) [snapback]484684[/snapback]
He's not an exciting player but he usually does his job and no more but he was very,very quite today. Jenkins will surely snatch his place when he is fit.

Aye right sonny! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:24:05
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 26 2008, 10:20 PM) [snapback]484683[/snapback]
General Nonsense for this pish! tongue.gif

SPAM and chips!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:25:36
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Jul 26 2008, 10:23 PM) [snapback]484689[/snapback]
Russell had his best game in a Morton jersey today. He scored one well constructed goal had one shot from 20 yards that was off target and missed two headers in front of goal. His link up work was very good and he was worth his place. I am pleased for him. How do you manage to turn this into some personal triumph for yourself Mortonjag? Did you hurry home after the game, eager with anticipation, hands sweating, a smile haunting your hand knitted face, just to start this thread? That's what concerns me about you Mortonjag, it's not about Morton or Russell or Dougie Rae or Jim McInally, it's really all about you isn't it.

Knit yourself another wee pal, invent another degree and get over yourself. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Of course it is! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:26:23
QUOTE(Tyrannous @ Jul 26 2008, 10:25 PM) [snapback]484692[/snapback]
kl

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mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:27:42
QUOTE(Tyrannous @ Jul 26 2008, 10:19 PM) [snapback]484679[/snapback]
Only to load the gunpowder and set up the detonation cable.



QUOTE(stu_1874 @ Jul 26 2008, 10:26 PM) [snapback]484696[/snapback]
we really should look into the Health and Safety implications of this beforehand....

Jumping to conclusions as always! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:28:45
QUOTE(james-m-1874 @ Jul 26 2008, 10:26 PM) [snapback]484694[/snapback]
Jamie Stevenson made a fine return to Alloa Athletic by scoring one and setting up the other as they upset Dundee in the Challenge Cup.

Stevenson, back at Recreation Park for the third time, this time on loan from Morton, sent in a fine cross that was headed home by Derek Townsley.

The returning hero lobbed home the second after defensive hesitancy.

Pleased for Jame

Not Jamie the keech? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:31:38
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Jul 26 2008, 10:28 PM) [snapback]484701[/snapback]
my auld man asked me who is this pervert
argues with 13 year olds he can't take it
but talking to men
he retracts to his den
making the sex registry is his limit

My auld man is deid son!


Time to grow up for you too, or are you just as glaicet as your 'auld man'? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:33:09
QUOTE(gmfc_stinny_gmfc @ Jul 26 2008, 10:30 PM) [snapback]484707[/snapback]
Jimbo done well today i thought, he made some naw bad runs and a few good long passes aswell. I think he will be a big player for us during the season and i hope he plays the way he did a few seasons ago. tongue.gif

He 'huffed and he puffed'!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:34:35
QUOTE(gmfc_stinny_gmfc @ Jul 26 2008, 10:32 PM) [snapback]484709[/snapback]
Masterton is alot better at putting in a good fast ball from a free kick than some little arse that was taking the freekicks last season. ph34r.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:36:23
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 26 2008, 10:30 PM) [snapback]484706[/snapback]
Will you stop going on about that, you'll make the poor boy blush.... rolleyes.gif ph34r.gif blush.gif

NEVER!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:38:11
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jul 26 2008, 10:35 PM) [snapback]484716[/snapback]
was he playing today? unsure.gif he was so quiet i never even noticed

On whom were you concentrating -not Newbs I hope!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:42:24
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jul 26 2008, 10:10 PM) [snapback]484666[/snapback]
Being abit of an ugly bassa I've had a few (hundreds ) but the best one was in Rico's one night and the maiden of virtue pulled a vibrator from her handbag and said no thanks (feck off !! You can't beat one of these )

Ah the scent of rejection

Mortonjag is unknockbackable! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:44:28
QUOTE(princessTON @ Jul 26 2008, 10:39 PM) [snapback]484724[/snapback]
erik wub.gif

Oh-Pantaloons-funny nobody's mentioned him yet-thought he looked a bit lost today, TBH!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:49:56
QUOTE(gmfc_stinny_gmfc @ Jul 26 2008, 10:42 PM) [snapback]484728[/snapback]
I think people are to negative when it comes to robinson,ok he made a few mistakes but name a keeper that hasnt?. If i remember right he pulled off alot of good saves last season and i really wouldnt mind him being in the squad for next season. Maybe we should bid for Boruc since hes looking for a big move biggrin.gif.

No chance-he'll NEVER put 'God Bless Shoogly' on his tee-shirt.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:51:20
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 26 2008, 10:48 PM) [snapback]484734[/snapback]
but has he bought any shares ?

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It was only a smile Newt-give me time FFS!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:54:07
QUOTE(stubaws @ Jul 26 2008, 10:51 PM) [snapback]484739[/snapback]
actually thought he always looked composed on the ball and very rarely gave it away! nothing spectacular but nothing wrong. was less impressed with masterton

Are you EFFIN' jokin'?

Pantaloons is a good player-sure-but he's a one touch player!

Every time he got the ball today he DID give it away-albeit to a more productive team mate!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:57:22
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 26 2008, 10:53 PM) [snapback]484742[/snapback]
I didnt know that , but your still barred! smile.gif

WHY?
mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:58:24
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Jul 26 2008, 10:56 PM) [snapback]484745[/snapback]
a coffin your auld man he did lease
20 year he kidded he was deef
he dug like a mole
to fathom a hole
so finally he could rest in peace

OH DEAR!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 22:59:03
QUOTE(stubaws @ Jul 26 2008, 10:58 PM) [snapback]484749[/snapback]
how can people honestly think that stewart is better than robinson (last 5 games of last season)?? stewart is an absolute disaster waiting to happen!:(

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mortonjag 2008-07-26 23:00:42
QUOTE(gmfc_stinny_gmfc @ Jul 26 2008, 10:44 PM) [snapback]484729[/snapback]
aye and he didnt manage to blow you over, ah well hes got the rest of the season to try and blow you away!

Again in serious mode-Jimbo has lots of talent.

He's NEVER a left sided player.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 23:02:22
QUOTE(centralTON @ Jul 26 2008, 10:07 PM) [snapback]484658[/snapback]
I honestly like him in the role he had today on the left hand side of a back three.

Total compromise and a waste of a creative talent IMHO!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 23:05:19
QUOTE(Jack Bauer @ Jul 26 2008, 10:34 PM) [snapback]484714[/snapback]
Peters was the worst one of them all.Taken as tho it was a pre game kick about.

JB.

I don't think I can argue with that!

We could still have won if Greacen hadn't told Irons he's 'penalty king'!
mortonjag 2008-07-26 23:11:58
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 26 2008, 11:01 PM) [snapback]484753[/snapback]
Pretty sure I've knocked you back wink.gif

Well f*** YOU SON-now I don't care if this is the Jessie Boys forum or Tontastic's 'rod of iron' children's chat show-YOU HAVE NO f***ING RIGHT TO REVEAL OUR PRIVATE SECRETS.

I assume you've been on to the 'News of the World' already. mad.gif


'DOCTOR DEATH'

Revenge killing in lovers' tiff.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 23:15:37
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 26 2008, 11:04 PM) [snapback]484756[/snapback]
The pup whether you like it or not will not be back and will end up in a curry.

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mortonjag 2008-07-26 23:17:36
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jul 26 2008, 11:11 PM) [snapback]484763[/snapback]
taxi driver told me about the t mobile carry on b4 the game. any more details? sounded like a bit of a rammy.

Is that English?
mortonjag 2008-07-26 23:18:42
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 26 2008, 11:12 PM) [snapback]484765[/snapback]
More than pleased for Jamie, hope this marks his return to Alloa fulltime after Xmas...

Turd

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mortonjag 2008-07-26 23:20:33
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 26 2008, 11:06 PM) [snapback]484761[/snapback]
isnt Iain Russell 'penalty king'!

yes but say it softly
mortonjag 2008-07-26 23:24:23
QUOTE(larmton @ Jul 26 2008, 11:20 PM) [snapback]484772[/snapback]
just relax man. it was humourous and its not like we get things like that alot anway. now if we threw it at one of their plays......thatd be funny...

Not if it had scorched your tiny developing baws son.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 23:28:12 I want to know if Sean has really lost a wee puppy.
mortonjag 2008-07-26 23:29:46
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 26 2008, 11:25 PM) [snapback]484781[/snapback]
Whit ?

Are you selling yer Ton shares ?

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WOOD EYE?
mortonjag 2008-07-26 23:30:54
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 26 2008, 11:29 PM) [snapback]484786[/snapback]
I want to know if Sean has really lost his virginity.

Can we have an answer?
mortonjag 2008-07-27 08:10:24 That is all! thumbdown.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-27 08:14:47
QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Jul 26 2008, 11:44 PM) [snapback]484798[/snapback]
Reasonable performance in defence and you ask if he will find his "rightful" place in midfield because of it?

And just to prove you wrong, like MANY others have to do - y'know since you speak the biggest pile of s***e ever - he was signed as a defensive midfielder.

I appreciate you were still in primary school at the time son, but AS ALWAYS Mortonjag is correct.
mortonjag 2008-07-27 08:17:33
QUOTE(gmsc-doco-1874 @ Jul 27 2008, 01:41 AM) [snapback]484857[/snapback]
maybe people don't hate him.

its just the utter garbage nickname they hate ?

i'm one of them laugh.gif

That is mince.

L E A F Y has been getting pelters for ages and it's been worse during the pre-season friendlies with several saying we'd be better off without him.
mortonjag 2008-07-27 08:26:11
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 27 2008, 12:13 AM) [snapback]484820[/snapback]
The fact that our squad is pretty threadbare was brought into sharp relief today. We could'nt even manage the allowed number of subs from fully fit players. We badly need the promised signings at least until we have a fully fit squad.

My own take on the players coincides to a large extent with Mortonjag's individual threads. I thought

Stewart - did almost nothing wrong but needs to establish decent communication with his defenders and his failure to come off his line a couple of times today could have cost us. The lack of communication might be down to not having played with Greacen, or, for that matter, many of our defenders very often.

McGuffie did ok at right centre back bit was less obvious in midfield when Greacen came on. He does do a lot of work though and pressures the ball a lot when the opposition have it.

Weatherson - had an excellent game for the most part and did not look out of place against SPL opposition. Does nit look fast enough to play up front again.

Walker I thought passed the ball well but is maybe a bit lacking in his man to man defensive qualities. He could maybe do well in midfield.

Greacen - for a man playing his first game since April, I thought he played a blinder. He had a couple of moments of confusion with the goalkeeper but other than that looked solid.

Finlayson - Again was very effective down the right side both in attack and defence . He is one of our hardest workers and this f an does not understand why so many on this board don't like him!

Paartalu - Does a lot of work but maybe does not win as much in the air as he should for a big guy. He is one of the players who will make us hard to beat.

McAllister - had for me, a disappointing game in the attacking sense although his defensive contributions were often crucial. There was little danger of the sort of run he has made in the past to the by line followed by a cut back and he looks a bit oout of sorts compared to the Jimbo of old.

Masterton - when on the ball looked like he was always likely to make a telling (creative?) pass and his dead balls were generally excellent. The move Masterton - Newby - Russell for our goal was brilliant. He is not a ball winner though and his tracking back is less than impressive. He's a player who will create for us but others will have to do the graft on his behalf.

Newby - not a hold up man at all. He's a player who needs the right pass but boy does he make good runs to get them. Our goal came from such a run where he manages to time things perfectly to be just onside. He got into great positions a few times today but just failed to get the final ball placed accurately enough (or maybe Ian Russell did not place himself right!) I cansee this guy making an impact on the first division.

Russell had one of his best games in a Morton short. This guy can hold the ball up and often leave his man for dead. If he was a better finisher he could be a 20 goal a season man. I back him to be our top scorer.

Wake was OK until he went off but too short a time on the park to make any sensible judgement.


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Maybe L E A F Y will get the full kit now he's scored a goal and stayed onside for a full game, making a total mockery of those who have been ridiculing him! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-27 08:28:35
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 27 2008, 06:56 AM) [snapback]484940[/snapback]

Big jugs! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-27 08:36:57
QUOTE(larmton @ Jul 27 2008, 01:33 AM) [snapback]484848[/snapback]
developing...no
tiny...sigh
JOKE

Prove it son-post a picture of your humungous sperm capsules! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-27 08:40:32
QUOTE(lemmington @ Jul 27 2008, 08:31 AM) [snapback]484953[/snapback]
never won many balls in the air and was caught out of position several times....not an alex walker fan

He admits that heading is one of his worst attributes, and he's also a wee bit slow. Would definitely be worth a shot further forward.
mortonjag 2008-07-27 08:50:48
QUOTE(mortonjag @ Jul 26 2008, 11:20 PM) [snapback]484773[/snapback]
yes but say it softly

Bryan, you may have noticed what happened to your word l e a f y-it magically changed to Iain Russell.


That's why it's now


L E A F Y


Maybe you can find out who's responsible for this, and Mortonjag will take him for a nice walk down a Iain Russell GLADE, where we can discuss power and responsibility! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-27 09:04:22 THE SPARROW'S NEST

BEHOLD, within the Iain Russell shade,
Those bright blue eggs together laid!
On me the chance-discovered sight
Gleamed like a vision of delight.
I started--seeming to espy
The home and sheltered bed,
The Sparrow's dwelling, which, hard by
My Father's house, in wet and dry
My sister Emmeline and I
Together visited.

She looked at it and seemed to fear it;
Dreading, tho' wishing, to be near it:
Such heart was in her, being then
A little Prattler among men.
The Blessing of my later years
Was with me when a boy:
She gave me eyes, she gave me ears;
And humble cares, and delicate fears;
A heart, the fountain of sweet tears;
And love, and thought, and joy.
1801.
mortonjag 2008-07-27 09:07:24
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 27 2008, 08:58 AM) [snapback]484962[/snapback]
What did she ever do to you?

RIP Nana Moon sad.gif
Oh, you're talking about the forum poster? Meh, can't say I know the guy. tongue.gif

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Nana Moon knows what I'm talking about! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-27 09:19:07 L E A F Y



LEAF Y
E
A
F
Y





mortonjag 2008-07-27 09:21:35
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 27 2008, 09:09 AM) [snapback]484970[/snapback]
Fantastic laugh.gif laugh.gif

I believe that you, like the erudite Mr/Dr Bam, reside in the Iain Russell Mearns! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-27 09:29:23 Eating plenty of green Iain Russell vegetables such as kale, spinach and collard greens could decrease skin cancer risk says a study.

These vegetables are known to contain a variety of vitamins and minerals and other bioactive substances that include lutein, vitamins C and E, flavonoids, folic acid, and fiber, according to the health portal HealthSentinel.

Researchers studied over 1,000 adults living in Australia over an 11-year period and provided them full-body skin examinations as well as detailed dietary food frequency questionnaire, according to the study published in International Journal of Cancer.

After adjusting for a variety of factors the researchers found that increasing intakes of green Iain Russell vegetables were associated with a 41 percent decrease risk of skin cancer - which is known medically as Squamous cell carcinoma (SCC).

Dark green Iain Russell vegetables are rich in folic acid, which plays a key role in DNA synthesis and repair, the researchers said.

The researchers also examined diet if any participant previously had skin cancer. They found an even more substantial relationship.

People who previously had skin cancer had a 55 percent decrease in SCC with increasing intakes of green Iain Russell vegetables. Conversely, dairy showed a significant 153 percent increased SCC risk.

'Increased intake of unmodified dairy products increased SCC risk by more than 2-fold,' the researchers observed.

'Our findings show that higher intakes of green Iain Russell vegetables may help prevent SCC tumours among people who have prior skin cancers,' the researchers claimed.
mortonjag 2008-07-27 09:38:24
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 27 2008, 09:31 AM) [snapback]484976[/snapback]
There once was a boy named Jack who was born with just one eye, so the doc's put a wooden one in the socket where his eye would be.

This was fine for Jack, for he knew no better, but the kids in school would tease him to no end. In fact, they all referred to him as "Wood Eye". Naturally, he didn't appreciate it, and grew to hate the name.

When the Senior Prom arrived, Jack went alone. When the dancing began, some friends came over and encouraged him to ask Sally to dance, as she had come alone as well.

"SALLY?! She's got a NOSE the size of KANSAS, for god's sake!", replied Jack.

"Hey Wood Eye, you've got a wooden EYE! Who the heck are you to judge Sally Bignose?!"

After a while, he noticed Sally across the room. Her nose wasn't THAT big, and frankly, she did look just as bored as he was. "what have I got to lose?" Jack asked himself. He decided to go for it.

"Sally, would you like to dance with me?"

"WOULD I?!" Exclaimed Sally.

Jack snapped back "-BIG NOSE!!!"

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Hey NEWT (thank f*ck that didn't change to Brian Wake dry.gif )-I know you watch your skins very carefully out in sunny Oz.

Have you heard of the benefits of Iain Russell green vegetables in preventing skin cancer?
mortonjag 2008-07-27 09:40:40
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 27 2008, 09:23 AM) [snapback]484973[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

Would it be better if you called him Col or Phil ?

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Col is SPURTLE and Phil is OTTER

L EAFY is LEAF Y
mortonjag 2008-07-27 09:46:07
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 27 2008, 09:35 AM) [snapback]484978[/snapback]
so what is wrong with Col or Phil ?
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They are Spurtle and Otter


LEAF Y is L EAFY
mortonjag 2008-07-27 09:50:21
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jul 27 2008, 09:38 AM) [snapback]484980[/snapback]
I back Scotsguy's post. Setting off a flare in the confined space of the cowshed - busy with punters of all ages- isn't a harmless piece of fun as most of you would have it. I was fairly close to the flare and no, I wasn't particularly alarmed/bothered by it but wasn't particularly happy either.

All you experts with 20/20 hindsight are saying 'nobody got killed' ...............so feck. So ,it's cool to bring flares into the shed then ?
Let's have two (or more ) f*nn**s set them off on the next busy game and that'll be an even better laugh blink.gif

If you can't see a potential problem with that, I feel sorry for you.


Oh grow up you!

It was just a wee boy having harmless fun. Who cares if some decrepit old c*nt got blinded. Decrepit old c*nts shouldn't attend football matches or interfere with wee boys.
mortonjag 2008-07-27 10:11:49
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 27 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]484988[/snapback]
OK

Colourphyl ?

or

Colourful ?

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mellow.gif I used to get Kale soup on the farm. I loved the taste and Iain Russell green colour.

QUOTE(foobs the elder @ Jul 27 2008, 10:02 AM) [snapback]484995[/snapback]
like the player, hate the nickname.
Russell has een our liveliest forward since he arrived and does more work than Wake.
"Jon Newby"we were told was 6'-0" and fast, neither allegation appears to be true. however the lad works hard.

foobs huh.gif

Newbs is OK IMO-he links very well, as does BRUSSELL.
mortonjag 2008-07-27 10:15:35
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 27 2008, 10:01 AM) [snapback]484994[/snapback]
thought his deliveries were okay today although we still don't look like scoring.The thing that annoyed me washe tried the hollywood pass every single time, when if he'd tried it half the time and played the simple pass half the time then it would have been fine.

I quite liked what I saw-we've now got energetic attackers who can move into space quickly while remaining onside. Masterton is their best hope of an occasional good ball (as in yesterday's fine goal by BRUSSELL
mortonjag 2008-07-27 10:19:31
QUOTE(port-ton @ Jul 27 2008, 09:59 AM) [snapback]484993[/snapback]
I didn't think it was that bad a penalty, also noticed how our ex captain the central defender with no ability with the ball at his feet put his name forward to take the first penalty while our new captain who's the striker and supposed one of the best players at the club didn't even take one of the first five i think? or maybe he took the 5th. if he took the fifth then like most of my posts this is irrelevant, although still well done stewarty for having the cuts to step forward.

If the midden goalie had gone the wrong way it would have been a 'fantastic' penalty.

He didn't, therefore it was absolute keech-belted hard and high and hopefully.

Newbs and BRUSSELL showed how to do it!
mortonjag 2008-07-27 10:23:25
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jul 27 2008, 09:56 AM) [snapback]484992[/snapback]
Time for your Ritalin MJ , go on, you know it's for the best.

That's IT-TOO MUCH-already in the last twenty four hours some effin cowboy has interfered with my Iain Russell and now you're casting aspirations on my sanctity.


I shall report you to the BIG MOD-you will be reduced to mince-cornbeef.
mortonjag 2008-07-27 10:25:48
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 27 2008, 09:55 AM) [snapback]484990[/snapback]
but not just skin cancer ... colorectal cancer as well

good stuff

the green vegetables, that is.
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Aye but they have to be Iain Russell!
mortonjag 2008-07-27 10:28:45
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 27 2008, 09:48 AM) [snapback]484986[/snapback]
OK - ColandPhyl.

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I'm been reliably informed that BRUSSELL's proper nickname is Beany.

That, IMHO is an utterly ridiculous nickname which could only be approved by mindless morons.
mortonjag 2008-07-27 10:34:22
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Jul 27 2008, 08:58 AM) [snapback]484961[/snapback]
Irons was tactically outclassed by McPherson yesterday. Jim was left completely exposed to deal with 2 players. Given the circumstances he did well. McGuffie when he moved into midfield offered little to no assistance in covering to allow Jim to get forward.

When Jim gets forward he's next to useless-not quite as next to useless as the other 'winger' mind you.

I'd get shot of them both tomorrow if we could get two half decent wingers to replace them.
mortonjag 2008-07-27 10:38:27
QUOTE(foobs the elder @ Jul 27 2008, 10:32 AM) [snapback]485007[/snapback]
The guy linked well today, played well, was Duff against Ayr, missed the game against Hartlepool, I was in Hartlepool, Their local paper said they gave the Ton a roasting. wish i had brought a copy up the road.

nb: I too lived on a farm in my youth, never had Kale soup !!

Maybe foobs the elder is younger than MJ!

High Auchinleck farm in the Port. East Green farm outside Kilmacolm. They made kale soup regularly-beautiful Iain Russell green it was!


mortonjag 2008-07-27 10:42:04 I have been informed that there has been a change in plan and the seller has become a rent boy.
mortonjag 2008-07-27 10:44:08
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 27 2008, 09:38 AM) [snapback]484983[/snapback]
Is Iain Russell a ginger ???

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Possibly though he's a blondie at the moment!
mortonjag 2008-07-27 10:47:21
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 26 2008, 11:48 PM) [snapback]484802[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

It's actually the Sunday Post that's interested in the story. They're trying to 'sex' things up with the stories they publish tongue.gif wink.gif

Publish and be damned-Fing is watching carefully. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-27 10:50:43
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 27 2008, 01:21 AM) [snapback]484840[/snapback]
You have had 2 chances Im afraid you dont get a third happy.gif laugh.gif

It no longer matters-I KNEW it was grossly overpriced, and now it's up for rent, boy! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-27 10:56:17
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 27 2008, 10:48 AM) [snapback]485018[/snapback]
'How to Make Friends and Influence People' by MortonJag.

A bestseller if ever I saw one.... dry.gif



Beany is an outrageous name for BRUSSELL!

It's as simple as that.
mortonjag 2008-07-27 10:58:02
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 27 2008, 10:44 AM) [snapback]485015[/snapback]
Kale is also an excellent source of vitamin C, B1, B2, B6 and E.

It contains copper and iron.

The combination of vitamins, minerals and phyto-nutrients makes kale a health superstar.

....and as your picture shows, it's extremely Iain Russell.
mortonjag 2008-07-27 11:09:50
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jul 27 2008, 11:03 AM) [snapback]485026[/snapback]
what the f*** you on about now you sick old freak?

This piece of confusing verbal mince---


taxi driver told me about the t mobile carry on b4 the game. any more details? sounded like a bit of a rammy.
mortonjag 2008-07-27 11:14:25
QUOTE(foobs the elder @ Jul 27 2008, 10:59 AM) [snapback]485024[/snapback]
What midfield???????????????
some people have criticised Kev and Jim, they would be better reserving their criticism for McGuffie and Paartalu

they came to the ball and never danced

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You can't miss Kev and Jimbo because they run about all day like headless chickens and produce next to nothing. Why people keep making excuse after excuse for those guys defies logic. Neither McGuffie nor Pantaloons was very proactive yesterday, but they still did a good job in keeping the Midden at bay.
mortonjag 2008-07-27 11:19:33
QUOTE(foobs the elder @ Jul 27 2008, 11:14 AM) [snapback]485030[/snapback]
Tasted it when chopping it for the cows as a lad, didn't like the taste.
The cows can have it all.
May be younger than you MJ but not by much, tho I am better looking
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You are not MUCH better looking and I'm 107 which just goes to show the benefits of Iain Russell kale soup.
mortonjag 2008-07-27 11:23:33
QUOTE(rafa the spic @ Jul 27 2008, 11:11 AM) [snapback]485029[/snapback]
Even if we were to go down this year, theres a good chance you might be back at your level in the 2nd div by that time,

I agree with most poster on here the game was dull, As a Saints fan i think Macphersons tactics are boring, But you've telling us ever since we've been in the SPL were going down, but were still there, and as Mr Rae will tell you its the only place to play due the money thats involved now

Indeed. Queens made a damned good effort last season and were excellent in the SCF!
mortonjag 2008-07-27 11:27:04
QUOTE(foobs the elder @ Jul 27 2008, 11:07 AM) [snapback]485027[/snapback]
Wel said Chrisbolli, so its not just me that thinks Mcguffie and Paartalu are duff.

You expressed my thoughts welll

Neither is 'DUFF'.

Jimbo is regularly disappointing and Kev is regularly duff.
mortonjag 2008-07-27 11:48:06
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 27 2008, 10:45 AM) [snapback]485016[/snapback]
You reap what you sow, sonny! wink.gif laugh.gif

Iain Russell green vegetables are well worth sowing Pop!
mortonjag 2008-07-27 11:56:45 cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(C B @ Jul 27 2008, 11:51 AM) [snapback]485043[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Yeah get Gardyne back mad.gif Change the record MJ, no sorry, change the cylinder sleep.gif

Jim was disappointing yesterday yes (thats not a regular occurance), Kev was excellent AGAIN dry.gif[/quote]
I'm talking about the ability of those two young gentlemen to use the wings CB, and they are both utter keech in that respect.


L EAFY is well worth his place!
mortonjag 2008-07-27 12:00:57
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jul 27 2008, 11:52 AM) [snapback]485045[/snapback]
I think he's trying to break his record for most amount of p1sh spouted!

Jim was clearly the best player on the park, from both sides.

That's the sort of comment that endears you to others Piehole!

Has he been reaming your arse for you?
mortonjag 2008-07-27 12:03:47
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Jul 27 2008, 11:58 AM) [snapback]485050[/snapback]
it's clear enough this morning that giving mortonjag his own private section hasn't worked. do you have a plan b or are you just going to give up?

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How much are you charging p.c.m. now that you're an official rent boy?
mortonjag 2008-07-27 13:21:53
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Jul 27 2008, 12:10 PM) [snapback]485067[/snapback]
Aye, and starting yet another thread dedicated to him will help. rolleyes.gif

You are a wise little man at times-manky and I exchanged some jousts yesterday-you know the effect jousting with the Jag can have on one! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-27 13:33:09
QUOTE(C B @ Jul 27 2008, 12:14 PM) [snapback]485070[/snapback]
I thought he was excellent yesterday, obviously nothing there for MJ to moan about?

Think his runs off the Skunks back line were excellent, epitomised by the goal and the near winner with minutes to go. He will cause first division defenses real problems.

Happy with this signing Mr Irons ! wub.gif

I thought Newbs had a good game and I've referred to that in other posts.

Where's the 'moaning' you're talking about? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-27 13:35:23
QUOTE(big blue eyes @ Jul 27 2008, 01:31 PM) [snapback]485104[/snapback]
I thought Jon was brilliant and he was the one who made the goal.

Mortonjag's probably raging that his friend only had to tap it in. He's clearly a very sick man-and by the way I DO know a wee bit about psychology.

One thing's for sure-he hasn't a clue about professional standards.

Zoe sad.gif

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You're a nineteen year old child at some two bit Uni-don't even THINK about professional standards till you've grown a pair of baws. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-27 13:43:42
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Jul 27 2008, 09:04 AM) [snapback]484965[/snapback]
Care to back that up with evidence old boy? rolleyes.gif

The following three quotes are just a sample. Trawl all the pre-season friendlies stuff and you'll get AMPLE evidence. Tonsilitis was particularly unimpressed!

QUOTE(bob_the_builder @ Jul 27 2008, 11:45 AM) [snapback]485040[/snapback]
I'll openly admit that i said all last season Russell just wasnt good enough for the first division, but fair play to the guy had a great game yesterday and thoroughly deserved his man of the match award. and i think he was only off side once or twice, most of his runs were well timed. However he needs to keep that up the whole season, if he can perform like that most of the time then i'll be convinced.

I KNOW he was NOT ruled offside during the whole game Bob!

QUOTE(gmsc-doco-1874 @ Jul 27 2008, 12:59 PM) [snapback]485096[/snapback]
he gets pelters for the right reasons
when he 1st arrived did you think he knew what the offside rules was ?

i wanted him signed after hearing his speach at the player of the year awards when weatherson, mcgowan russell & think it aitken were all up for the award biggrin.gif

in his speach he praised the 2 morton players not bothering to mention the other player.

the guys work rate is great just hope he could improve on his finishing.

and works well with wake.

No son-I have it on good authority that L E A F Y just swotted it up on Friday night. Amazing what leafing through books can do for ones football!

QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jul 27 2008, 01:08 PM) [snapback]485098[/snapback]
His finishing seems to have improved with each game during the pre-season and he shows tremendous drive and will to win. He'll be a success at this club yet.

My dad f'cking hates him to! laugh.gif

Still?

QUOTE(gmsc-doco-1874 @ Jul 27 2008, 01:35 PM) [snapback]485107[/snapback]
good point

and kev's final ball yesterday was alot better than his usual standards

and jim just couldn't get into the game yesterday and at every attacking opportunity tried to cut inside

Kevin is a waste of space as a right winger.
mortonjag 2008-07-27 13:49:26
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Jul 27 2008, 12:04 PM) [snapback]485060[/snapback]
jim was by far the best player on the park by miles

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Piehole has a FRIEND!

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mortonjag 2008-07-27 13:51:51
QUOTE(C B @ Jul 27 2008, 12:08 PM) [snapback]485066[/snapback]
Iain Russell is just not gonna cut it anymore, especially now Irons has him working to stay on his feet.

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mortonjag 2008-07-27 13:56:29
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 27 2008, 10:41 AM) [snapback]485011[/snapback]

Broccoli with Lemon Butter: Fresh Broccoli, blanched crisp and tossed with our House Seasoned Lemon Butter.


That's as close as the menu get's to being L E A F Y!
mortonjag 2008-07-27 13:59:31
QUOTE(foobs the elder @ Jul 27 2008, 10:52 AM) [snapback]485020[/snapback]
Pretty aduquate report ma man.
However it is up to stewart to command his defence, he is the boss of the area and as such should boss them all captain included.
Masterson needs to do more ball winning, positions himself well.
McGuffie and Paartalu couldn't tackle a fish supper between em, Paartalu won the odd ball by sticking out a foot but i don't remember either on winning a tackle, they need some of the guts and determination showed by Findlayson.

could go on , but enough !!!

Foobs

laugh.gif Has DI been entrailing some stalwart with a view to a signature?
mortonjag 2008-07-27 14:04:21
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jul 27 2008, 11:56 AM) [snapback]485048[/snapback]
I think McGuffie will be best utilised as a centre back.

I don't know what he was doing at Gretna but really can't see him doing a job in midfield for us. Obviously we still have Jenkins to come back which should bolster what will be a comeptitive midfield.

But with everyone fit I don't imagine McGuffie starting without a major improvement.
As for Moronjag... wonder if he knows he can just put one thread together with a list of all the players followed by a comment?
Attention seeking fckwit!

People have been banned for less Piehole-may I now call you a little POUFFLET?

QUOTE(C B @ Jul 27 2008, 12:02 PM) [snapback]485055[/snapback]
BEANY was excellent yesterday and it shows Irons is capable of turning mediocre strikers (Wake inc) into real threats, however, considering Irons started 3-4-3 yesterday I think you'll find Kev and Jim were not used as wingers !!!!!! Kev's workrate and general ankle biting of opponents (not wingplay) is the reason I would have him in my top 2 or 3 picks EVERY week ! dry.gif



No effin sh1t Sherlock!

That's my WHOLE point-we haven't GOT effin wingers and we NEED at least one! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-27 14:12:18
QUOTE(Clydebuilt @ Jul 27 2008, 03:14 AM) [snapback]484900[/snapback]
Does "bury" mean you're not going to mention him?

I kinda have a life outside this board so apologies for not being au fait with all these earth shattering developments smile.gif

I'm extremely jealous! laugh.gif

It seems that some smart arse with the power has already attempted to scupper what seemed like a genuine offer by Red Sox to raise cash for the Ardgowan Hospice.

I had agreed to not mention DDFR or Iain Russell for three months from August 1st.

I typed S H O O G L Y and L E A F Y above, (without the spaces) and Lo and behold they magically change!

Some folk are TERRIBLY smart, don't you think! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-27 14:16:03
QUOTE(forza ton @ Jul 27 2008, 12:02 PM) [snapback]485056[/snapback]
i think you're just confused in general pal.

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QUOTE(TaunTon @ Jul 27 2008, 12:07 PM) [snapback]485065[/snapback]
which is easily understandable to anyone who's spent more than 10 minutes in the west of Scotland. Yourself included.

I understood it well!

I was simply attempting to help forza as he's an aspiring poet!
mortonjag 2008-07-27 14:19:23
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jul 27 2008, 12:59 PM) [snapback]485097[/snapback]
He's a midfielder but we already have loads of defensive players in there.

He's much more useful while we have our current defence crisis.

He's an attacking midfielder who's been used as a general dogsbody.

With the current questioning of Pantaloons and Huffy in the productivity department, he might get a wee shot one day!
mortonjag 2008-07-27 14:22:18
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Jul 27 2008, 01:38 PM) [snapback]485109[/snapback]
Aye, that was the intention but they were very late in coming out, and I have absolutely no view of the 'tunnel' to see what's going on! Think I'll ask for a cctv camera in the changing room foyer linked to a monitor in my dunny, or maybe not...
Also appologies to those in the cowshed, someone fecked up the level settings over the close season so I don't think you could hear me announcing teams before the game, possibly a good thing tho... Will try to spend some time prior to the next match and fiddle with the knobs!
I really don't want to bring back Live is Life, even though the Chairman is pushing for it, but if the general consensus is that it should be resurrected then... So get voting for something else you lot smile.gif

Right, I'm aff to Spain for a week, where's ma thong speedos... blink.gif cool.gif

Just be sure the two 'esses' are still in place!
mortonjag 2008-07-27 14:28:18
QUOTE(capitanus @ Jul 27 2008, 12:49 PM) [snapback]485090[/snapback]
I saw the thread title and thought of these:
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mortonjag 2008-07-27 14:31:14
QUOTE(Bryan @ Jul 27 2008, 02:20 PM) [snapback]485132[/snapback]
laugh.gif i did it as a joke for just a day rolleyes.gif i have removed them as i dont want to ruin the challenge biggrin.gif

You are sometimes a very naughty boy!

I've spent the whole morning muttering 'effin Tontastic' and the poor chap was innocent! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-27 14:37:27
QUOTE(piehutt @ Jul 27 2008, 12:44 PM) [snapback]485088[/snapback]
I think you have to give the guys who volunteered a bit of credit.

Ok - it wasn't a massive important cup tie but big Greacan volunteered to take a kick against St Mirren in the Challenege Cup semi a few years ago when others (Andy McLaren) didn't take a kick.

As for Peter... penalties should be practiced more often. They cost us probably 6 or 7 points at least last season so we should def have 2 or 3 players practicing then each week as keepers are a lot better at saving them and guessing a direction these days.

I'd have thought that would have been organised by yourself at the 'Battery and Quarriers' Piehole!


BTW-what size of boots does Colin Stewart wear?

I know they're pinkish red and VERY big like your mouth.
mortonjag 2008-07-27 15:01:48
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jul 27 2008, 02:53 PM) [snapback]485142[/snapback]
You can't really have a go at a player for missing a penalty. They've stepped up when needed and gave it a blast and you aint gonna score them all. Likewise for NOT taking a penalty. If you're stepping up unsure about then you will miss. If he doesn't feel confident hitting pens why would he want to hit them when there (should) be a good few other players who can hit them.




Some are better than others mind you-look at Chris Aitken for example!
mortonjag 2008-07-27 15:07:22 It's always sad when folk die-especially after a long illness.

Bob Crampsey's professionalism was an example for all aspiring sports journalists.
mortonjag 2008-07-27 15:17:20
mortonjag 2008-07-27 15:23:48
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 27 2008, 03:11 PM) [snapback]485152[/snapback]
CODE
A thread's not about me yet - better get to work!

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Just oot yer pit I see Smeggy!
mortonjag 2008-07-27 15:26:44
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 27 2008, 03:25 PM) [snapback]485164[/snapback]
I've been up for an hour cool.gif

Your SO must be getting worn out.
mortonjag 2008-07-27 15:30:39
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Jul 27 2008, 03:24 PM) [snapback]485162[/snapback]
"Who's the slapper in the ridiculously unfashionable dress with saggy boobs?"

Apparently this is a view of somebody in the Directors' Box.

mortonjag 2008-07-27 15:35:03
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 27 2008, 03:27 PM) [snapback]485168[/snapback]
Masterton should take the penalties. His was an absolute belter !

It was powerful and well directed. I noticed that LEAFY and Newbs both hit very similar penalties, and wondered if the goalie is a known 'sucker' to his right.
mortonjag 2008-07-27 15:43:20
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 27 2008, 03:37 PM) [snapback]485175[/snapback]
Har har rolleyes.gif

No haar here-it's a gloriously sunny Sunday afternoon-the sort of day when everybody seems nicer and you want to whistle choons and shake everybody's hand!
mortonjag 2008-07-27 15:52:01
QUOTE(Deego @ Jul 27 2008, 03:48 PM) [snapback]485180[/snapback]
I love mortonjag.

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What do you think of poncey wee top floor tenement flats selling in pouffe Hyndland for nearly a quarter of a million, young man.

Has Morrissey written a suitable thingy about such bizarre happenings? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-27 16:19:59
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jul 27 2008, 04:01 PM) [snapback]485185[/snapback]
'Money don't buy you happiness'. By the most miserable, overated c*** in music history.

I believe I can say in all honesty that I've never heard one of his ditties, though I LOVE the original Seekers.


I particularly liked 'I'll never find another ewe'.
mortonjag 2008-07-27 16:25:09
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 27 2008, 04:06 PM) [snapback]485189[/snapback]
I think that's more to do with your mania.

I've just hit another low


C*NT



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mortonjag 2008-07-27 16:29:18
QUOTE(Deego @ Jul 27 2008, 04:10 PM) [snapback]485191[/snapback]
That's jazza's maw! laugh.gif (Jazza posts here)

She looked better in this one!
mortonjag 2008-07-27 19:29:04
QUOTE(Malt @ Jul 27 2008, 04:57 PM) [snapback]485204[/snapback]
The abuse McGuffie gets is absolutely out of order and over the top. Yesterday before a ball was kicked there was people on his back. Let the guy get on with his game. If he has a poor game then let Davie and Derek deal with him.

I agree.
mortonjag 2008-07-27 19:32:38
QUOTE(C B @ Jul 27 2008, 05:02 PM) [snapback]485211[/snapback]
In the first post of all your other player topics, with the exception of the Alex Walker thread.

Don't be silly-I know 'moaning' when I hear it. If you're suggesting that I don't think all is perfection in the squad-that is correct. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-27 19:34:19
QUOTE(jpmil @ Jul 27 2008, 05:07 PM) [snapback]485215[/snapback]
I can't be bothered reading all the post on this theme but the simple fact that althought hard working and extremely industrious Jim flatters to deceive. The "killer" cross never quite gets delivered because (like all full-backs know he has to cut back to get the ball on his rigfht foot which immediately causes that split second delay in any effective delivery of a cross.

In other words he's redundant unless DI can make him effective as a right wing player.
mortonjag 2008-07-27 19:37:40
QUOTE(leyTON @ Jul 27 2008, 06:58 PM) [snapback]485245[/snapback]
hes a good lad
theres some people he really hates though
he does spout pish sometimes, we all do
its the people who get angry who justify him always talking, its great when he gets a rise
some people are as sad as they say he is by constantly moaning

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mortonjag 2008-07-27 19:43:24
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Jul 27 2008, 06:17 PM) [snapback]485232[/snapback]
going by the size of some of them I assumed they were the Sinclair St Elfs.

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QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 27 2008, 06:55 PM) [snapback]485242[/snapback]
The Sinclair Street Elite is not directly linked to Morton, it's the name the lads from the QB and surrounding areas have given themselves.

'And why do you call yourselves 'elite'?

'Cos it's an effin ace name mister'! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-27 19:45:49
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jul 27 2008, 06:41 PM) [snapback]485237[/snapback]
blink.gif East Stirling didn't play yesterday! As for Jamie, he's found his level.

Smiffy, would you object if I changed your nickname to ANUS?

QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Jul 27 2008, 06:46 PM) [snapback]485240[/snapback]
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/s...ups/7524239.stm

Jamie's level being getting man of the match against one of the best teams in the division we're in?

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mortonjag 2008-07-27 19:50:04 Pink pouffe?
mortonjag 2008-07-27 20:00:45
QUOTE(CraigoTON @ Jul 27 2008, 07:58 PM) [snapback]485280[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-07-27 20:03:24
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jul 27 2008, 07:58 PM) [snapback]485279[/snapback]
do you still stand by that statement Largston???? i always pictured you as a bald overweight man, but after bumping into you last night i take it all back! lol

Largston's a WOMAN? blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-27 20:07:28
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 27 2008, 07:59 PM) [snapback]485281[/snapback]
My personal thoughts are, you must be really gullable or completely thick to believe that there is one supreme God out there. Go spend an afternoon watching the Discovery Channel or something

Was there a Jesus Christ, yes there was but just a typical Cult leader, good with words, but never the son of someone that isn't true in the first place.

Now I know that there are a few bible bashers amoungst us, but its time the world woke up to the fact that religion is a pile of pish no matter what god to beleive in.

What's your thoughts
Mon the Monkeys rolleyes.gif

He exists!
mortonjag 2008-07-27 20:10:09
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Jul 27 2008, 04:05 PM) [snapback]485187[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-07-27 20:14:36
QUOTE(CraigoTON @ Jul 27 2008, 08:02 PM) [snapback]485285[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-07-27 20:18:09
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Jul 27 2008, 08:11 PM) [snapback]485295[/snapback]
no sorry he is a man but he aint overweight and bald! lol

Hirsute and emaciated?

QUOTE(Deego @ Jul 27 2008, 08:14 PM) [snapback]485296[/snapback]
I think someone has a wee thing for LargsTON! laugh.gif

Has she seen his 'wee thing'?
mortonjag 2008-07-27 21:03:10
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 27 2008, 08:18 PM) [snapback]485301[/snapback]
His name is Cliff Richard

Be thoroughly ashamed Spurtle-the poor chap's just had massive plastic surgery including a buglectomy, and still has the baws to go to a football match. That's a REAL fan in my book.
mortonjag 2008-07-27 21:05:18
QUOTE(Deego @ Jul 27 2008, 08:59 PM) [snapback]485330[/snapback]
I've been in twice already today.

True my angel, but that was not the inner sanctum! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-28 06:50:06
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 27 2008, 08:56 PM) [snapback]485324[/snapback]
Now where did you live when the fruit of your loins was of school age? laugh.gif

The truth is that Glasgow's system is p1sh. I can go into boring pedagogic details if you want.


Labour cooncil Dr Bam-say no more!
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 27 2008, 09:32 PM) [snapback]485367[/snapback]
Naw, spare me that please. biggrin.gif

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Apparently the 'swish' property's off the market as nobody from the Port could match Che Efrichc*nts' knock down price! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-28 06:57:35
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jul 27 2008, 09:11 PM) [snapback]485343[/snapback]
As long as a p***k like you doesn't come near me. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

I'll have you before you know!

QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Jul 27 2008, 09:13 PM) [snapback]485348[/snapback]
You misunderstand me. Jamie's ability has never been in doubt, but he can't handle the 'big stage' and is much happier kicking around the Second Division where he can be a 'star' without any real pressure on him. rolleyes.gif

Really! A good manager'll get that sorted I'd imagine. rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(vikingTON @ Jul 27 2008, 09:15 PM) [snapback]485352[/snapback]
We should yield to your in-depth psychological profiling of our entire squad.

Anus is no psychologist.
mortonjag 2008-07-28 07:05:02
QUOTE(lofty @ Jul 27 2008, 09:06 PM) [snapback]485338[/snapback]
i have not been on here for a while now, where did this mortonjag come from, is he a mod ? he does seem to like posting, mainly drivel, in fact all drivel lol. sounds like a wee gobs***e ned.

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mortonjag 2008-07-28 07:09:17
QUOTE(jpmil @ Jul 27 2008, 10:30 PM) [snapback]485405[/snapback]
In the face of all this negative comment , could anybody say what exactly did Stewart do wrong yesterday?
The goal lost was certainly not his fault and he had one wonderful save from the lad who tried to curl it round him at pace! I'll see what time has to say!

The goal came from a free header from pretty close in as Stewart YET AGAIN refused to come off his line.

You need to focus on a goalie during the build up to potential strikes if you're to assess him properly! Big Stewart is feart to abandon his goal line-it's as plain as a Milanda Loaf.
mortonjag 2008-07-28 07:16:14
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Jul 27 2008, 11:35 PM) [snapback]485432[/snapback]
he's no hold up man but a forward who needs a through ball played to him. His runs across the defence though are immense and bhe makes himself obvious for the pass. He will compliment Wake up front and I think will make a significant impact on this league if he stays fit.

I am getting more and more happy with our front options as Russell looks a 20 goals man in waiting also.

I would quite like us to stick with the 3-4-3 we started with yesterday

Things are getting rosier leafier, then! thumbup2.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-28 07:19:56
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Jul 28 2008, 01:08 AM) [snapback]485446[/snapback]
Lets look objectively it wasn't a disaster and from my point of view I thought we'd have got beaten easily . In open play I thought St Midden looked pretty decent , our extra man in midfield was negated a few times due to them passing the ball well and bringing their fullbacks into play .
It was a good test and I thought we stood up pretty well .

The penalties are always a lottery wouldn't crucify Peter or Stuart as their performances over the ninety minutes made up for the penalty miss .

I take what Toby said about Peters confidence and perhaps thats why hes been moved back . There was enough players yesterday who took their penalty well so in a normal league situation I wouldn't be worried .

Mortonjag predicted a 1-0 victory with LEAFY scoring.

I just thought I'd like to say that! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-28 07:31:13
QUOTE(nach0king @ Jul 28 2008, 05:39 AM) [snapback]485465[/snapback]
Well that footage justified a 4:33 video

The monkey kept saying-'Where's the train'

Trainspotting Monkey! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-28 07:57:02 On the great day of judgement, the Almighty saith unto Sean-

'Sean, ye hath sinned and come short of the glory of God', and Sean did quiver with abundant quivering, and saith-

'Almighty one -I never kent any better'

...and God, with one stroke of his Almighty hand, banished Sean to hell fire with the resounding words-

'Well ye ken noo son'. thumbdown.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-28 08:02:21 HA-when I read the title I thought Manky had finally flipped under the pressure! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-28 08:05:10
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 27 2008, 09:21 PM) [snapback]485359[/snapback]
I didn't know you could catch the clap from your hand. rolleyes.gif

It is remotely possible-hence the POUFFE caveat

Always wash your hands after using the toilet.
mortonjag 2008-07-28 08:24:36 Happy birthday! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-28 08:27:00
QUOTE(dazed @ Jul 28 2008, 07:48 AM) [snapback]485477[/snapback]
did you travel on the same train as the filth?

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No it was just when he was watching that BOOOOOORING video! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-28 08:39:34
QUOTE(se65an @ Jul 28 2008, 08:34 AM) [snapback]485485[/snapback]
Were is hell, and does it come with aircon?

Do not mock!

As DI said to LEAFY

PREPARE TO MEET THY MARKER
mortonjag 2008-07-28 08:50:16
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 28 2008, 08:42 AM) [snapback]485491[/snapback]
what einstein said:

“My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment.”

This subject is FAR too deep for you Alistair.

Stick to your daft wee one liners and accept that for practical purposes Mortonjag is your God.
mortonjag 2008-07-28 08:59:04
QUOTE(cmonaton @ Jul 28 2008, 08:54 AM) [snapback]485496[/snapback]
 

your talking pish as usual.



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My talking pish eh!!!


Is my tadger some kind of ventriloquist?


What I stated is factual son! Many others have made similar comments about 'big banana feet'.
mortonjag 2008-07-28 09:02:05
QUOTE(NewTon @ Jul 28 2008, 08:49 AM) [snapback]485493[/snapback]
Gidday The Naitch,

Sorry, Inverclyde slang, if that is what it is, has got the better of me.

Would I wot ?

Your link to the story depicted a young lady with ample bosoms (big jugs)! laugh.gif



Alistair was there on Saturday looking dapper, mean, and purposeful. In contrast Shoogly is looking distinctly worn those days. mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-28 09:06:24
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 28 2008, 08:58 AM) [snapback]485498[/snapback]
that was rather a daft wee one liner was it not rolleyes.gif

No it was not, Alistair-I was being serious. I get pissed off with unthinking clots who defer to the writings of 'important' folk.

Einstein was only a bloody genius like myself-stick with the Jag!
mortonjag 2008-07-28 10:20:31
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 28 2008, 09:41 AM) [snapback]485511[/snapback]
i didn't think you'd be able to look up mr rae's kilt from your usual vantage point rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2008-07-28 10:23:10
QUOTE(foobs the elder @ Jul 28 2008, 09:47 AM) [snapback]485512[/snapback]
Sorry MJ do you fancy Mc Duffie, you don't like any criticism of him.
Sorry not PC, but thats me!!
Didn't see his first game were he scored, seen plenty since and the game seems to pass him bye for the most part.
He needs to gain a bit of desire to take part. Jenkins appears to be a much better player but has missed more games than he has played in (Injury Prone) does the stats bear this out
Not a happy bunny

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Huffy has a beautiful bottom-I admit it-but that's not the point. he 'ghosts'-popping up in all sorts of unexpected places-a damned sight more useful than many realise-and AYE he hasn't hit his best form yet at Scapa.
mortonjag 2008-07-28 10:25:36
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Jul 28 2008, 10:06 AM) [snapback]485514[/snapback]
Spot on.

Mibbes aye, mibbes no!

I take it DI just lets the boys sort it out themselves! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-07-28 10:29:33
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 28 2008, 09:55 AM) [snapback]485513[/snapback]
Not quite that simple, East Ren is labour too.

There is a subtle difference!
mortonjag 2008-07-28 10:34:01
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 28 2008, 09:18 AM) [snapback]485504[/snapback]
perish the thought, i leave that to others tongue.gif

i didn't say that einstein was an atheist, i quoted him describing his posiiton as 'that of an agnostic'.

i think einstein's concept of 'personal' god is really rather important (in understanding his views), don't you think?

I frankly couldn't give a toss what Einstein believed. Do you want me to start quoting Jesus?

QUOTE(David Edwards @ Jul 28 2008, 10:15 AM) [snapback]485516[/snapback]
Yes. Anyway, the debate has gone off topic. My point was really about the arrogance of some non-believers who hold those who do believe in contempt, and see themselves as intellectually superior. I used Einstein as a counter to that nonsense, I could have quoted other great intellects like Tolstoy or Doestoevsky, or a good few others, but whatever, you get my drift.

Exactly- some can't get their heads round 'God' and some can't get their heads round 'no God'. Either way it's just opinion.

I believe in a 'higher power'.
mortonjag 2008-07-28 10:38:05 OK folks-the Jag's just human. I've an arrangement to speak with a specialist this afternoon. Fingers crossed that the futures rosy. blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 09:08:11 Right folks-just back from St Andrews-as I promised I had a word with the gardener about the future-he looked rather askance and started singing-



I beg your pardon,
I never promised you a rose garden.
Along with the sunshine,
There's gotta be a little rain sometimes.
When you take, you gotta give, so live and let live,
Or let go.
I beg your pardon,
I never promised you a rose garden.

I commented that it would be nice to have a couple of new varieties in the next few seasons and he's promised to 'do his best'. Craigtoun meadows is highly recommended to all posters.


mortonjag 2008-08-04 09:29:14 Standman


3) Colin Stewart flapping at the corner. A really bad one to lose

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Tonosuarus

Stewart perhaps made a bad call for the goal


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irvineTON

'flapped about like a budgie'!

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Mags


To be fair to him,it was the only ball he missed all game....but it did cost us the game sad.gif
Mags.


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If anybody tells me this guy is an improvement on McGurn-he needs his heid looked. For a big man, his command of the box is NON-EXISTENT, and he flatly refuses to come off the line for anything.

Two good first half saves don't make up for inexplicable incompetence. WTF was he EVER signed? ph34r.gif


That's what I said last week and I stand by it. I didn't make the match so I guess I can be quite dispassionate.

Almost five minutes into injury time in a game you've deserved to win and they get a corner-THE MAIN MAN is the goalie-he's GOT to produce the goods.

Simple really! mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 09:44:56
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 4 2008, 09:36 AM) [snapback]489061[/snapback]
Part timer.

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mortonjag 2008-08-04 09:47:20
QUOTE(Alibi @ Aug 4 2008, 09:18 AM) [snapback]489055[/snapback]
Ach well, that proves once and for all that you didn't write "One Day in the life of Ivan Denisovitch".

I was once dragged along to see that bloody thing at 'The Citizens'. It was twice as boring as the Chairman's programme notes! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 09:58:43
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Jul 31 2008, 03:55 AM) [snapback]487001[/snapback]
Trick is so boring I still would vote Clinton for president now just to lighten things up
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You just want to sook her big boobies sonny boy!


I can't see the problem with Trick
He don't get on Mortonjag's wick
But daft little f*nnies
Who talk like old grannies
Make Mortonjag thoroughly sick! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 10:04:16
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Jul 28 2008, 04:12 PM) [snapback]485681[/snapback]
Aware of that, the fact is that when indicators of deprivation are allowed for Glasgow schools underperform badly. There are a few exceptions to this trend. St Andrews Carntyne is an example.

Also East Ren schools tend to do very well compared to schools with similar catchment areas in places like Bearsden, Milngavie, Dunblane etc.

Bearsden and Milngavie are full of decadent snobbery, and Dunblane is a shot up hole.

The Mearns is the home of aspirant greed and Dr Bam-success is the catchword-Disce puer aut abi.
mortonjag 2008-08-04 10:14:37
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 4 2008, 10:12 AM) [snapback]489069[/snapback]
and teachers able to use apostrophes.

It's rather sad.

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Dr Bam is a Chemist-one of those pouffes in Boots.
mortonjag 2008-08-04 10:23:16
QUOTE(Alibi @ Aug 4 2008, 09:23 AM) [snapback]489058[/snapback]
I see the grandad was wearing a Sellick strip in the photo. I will venture no opinion on that fact.

And so it was to be, that after the waters receded, Noah commanded all
the animals to "Go forth and multiply" unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 11:29:10
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Aug 4 2008, 10:46 AM) [snapback]489082[/snapback]
Your back, your not pan breid? . rolleyes.gif Unlike some on here, i thought you might have been on holiday?

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QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 4 2008, 11:08 AM) [snapback]489092[/snapback]
he was - his annual pilgrimage.

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The butcher in St Andrews makes excellent black pudding! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 11:35:04
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 3 2008, 02:50 PM) [snapback]488733[/snapback]
You DO buy into that drivel. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

It was started long before the first thatcher government of 1979, and the professionals and charities were pushing it.

Some facts.

The most important fact (and I blame Bawheid for it) is that care in the Community has by and large been a total 'cop out' to save MUNNY.

It's naive in the extreme to imagine that the way to help mentally ill people is to 'let them get on with it'.

Bawheid has much to answer for! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 11:41:01
QUOTE(dazed @ Aug 4 2008, 11:14 AM) [snapback]489097[/snapback]
Good grief! it must have been bloody awful then sad.gif

It was the most depressing visual spectacle I've ever witnessed-worse than our humping at Livvi last season! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 11:46:01 There's sure a lot of repressed anger on this massage board! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

mortonjag 2008-08-04 11:49:14
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Aug 4 2008, 11:12 AM) [snapback]489094[/snapback]
WELCOME BACK MJ happy.gif

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mortonjag 2008-08-04 11:51:57
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 4 2008, 10:31 AM) [snapback]489076[/snapback]
Welcome back Ernie . Just as as well it wasn't the ginga makem from Castle Greyskull the website would have gone into meltdown .

I think we'll see a return of the wee "get yir macaroon" guy this time selling prozac

The Monkey's getting ideas!
mortonjag 2008-08-04 11:55:51
QUOTE(Toby @ Aug 3 2008, 04:13 PM) [snapback]488745[/snapback]
Was quite interested to see what a few folk had to say about Radio Scotland's coverage of the game yesterday, and heard the reports in the car on the way home when admittedly we hardly got a mention. What little coverage of the game there was seemed to be all about Clyde, and in comparison to the other First Division games it certainly wasn't much at all.

But is this a general theme or are we just being paranoid? Taking the Old Firm out of the equation completely, I think we definitely received more attention than our peers when in the Second and Third Divisions but it doesn't seem to be anything like the same as the likes of St. Johnstone, Clyde, Thistle, Dunfermline etc.

I'd probably bracket us with Hamilton and Queen of the South as teams that seem to just be "there" and are only really noticed in extreme circumstances like was the case with both of them last year.

Gone for the second option, lets be honest we'll never be a Thistle, Livingston or a Falkirk; probably the three teams of comparable size to ourselves that were responsible for damage to most of the media's laptops over the last few years as they started to masturbate furiously over the mere mention of.

Thoughts?

Why should we get media interest and publicity when we're as boring as the Sound of Music for the nth time?

We need a Hal Stewart-simple.
mortonjag 2008-08-04 12:08:07
QUOTE(MORETEN @ Aug 4 2008, 11:57 AM) [snapback]489121[/snapback]
HOW IS YOUR DAVE BY THE WAY? HAS HE SETTLED IN OK AT RAITH

Don't know-he had a 'shut out' against Ayr at the weekend.
mortonjag 2008-08-04 12:09:29
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 3 2008, 11:50 PM) [snapback]488959[/snapback]
I know we have a game in between times but I was wondering about our line up next week with Wake being out. Its a bit of a blow to be honest but I would prefer we stuck with our 3-4-3 line up and if McManus is fit by then, I would put him in the back line and move Weatherson upfront.

Neither Newby nor Russell are target men and they both prefer to play off a hold up man. Peter's the only other one we have apart from Wake.

The alternative I guess is to play 3-5-2 adding Masterton to midfield and hope he can make the forward passes for Newby and Russell

IF we'd got our signings right, Spoonsy would be available up front! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 12:15:59
QUOTE(Last Boat Home @ Aug 1 2008, 07:15 PM) [snapback]487700[/snapback]
Football isn't always fair tho. Perserverance that has cost Morton alot of money in wages & operations I'd imagine!
You imagine wrong dry.gif There is a strong case that Davie's injuries have been made worse by a reluctance to take medical action when it was required and the lack of decent medical advice/physio at the club for many years. I know for a fact his father has had to pay for operations and medical treatment while the club dithered and failed to react.

What the keyboard critics on here have to remember is that despite the injuries a number of managers have chosen to keep him, which means that people actually qualified to make these calls have consistently decided he’s good enough for Morton.

Knowing that Davie has a genuine affinity for Morton I believe he will try and play his way back into the team but if he doesn’t succeed by the Xmas transfer window he may very well decide to move on.



QUOTE(Last Boat Home @ Aug 1 2008, 11:37 PM) [snapback]487811[/snapback]
We’re not best mates but yes I know him and his family to say hello to but I wouldn’t say that makes my views distorted and blinded! Does that mean cause you don’t know him your views are ignorant and unfounded?

What I said is true and who knows, with proper/better treatment maybe Davie would have played more and possibly even to a higher level.

What has happened is past and not worth dragging up but In my opinion his desire to give his all for the club may actually have contributed to his absence (coming back too early, playing whilst injured, poor treatment etc) and as such he doesn’t deserve a lot of the criticism about his injury record.

You HAVE just dragged it up and I DO think it's worthy of comment.

Just another example of the shambles behind the scenes. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 12:23:41
QUOTE(SramTon @ Aug 3 2008, 11:35 AM) [snapback]488637[/snapback]
[My emphasis in bold]

Exclusive by Keeny MacDonald.

Hamilton Accies chairman Ronnie MacDonald has waded into the debate over Scotalnd's referres - by telling his fellow chairmen they're LUCKY to have them.

MacDonald went for his first meeting with his new SPL fellow-chairmen at Dalmahoy last month - and wasted no time in telling them to give refs a break.

And he promised officials they won't see his Accies players badgering them in the coming season.

He said: "We'd had an SPL gathering at Dalmahoy. I enjoyed it, and managed to button my lip for most of it.

I told them they wouldn't see our players running after referees. I said I didn't know where they'd all come from but I know where I've come from. I started in juvenile football and my biggest worry on a matchday wasn't having enough players - it was that the referee wouldn't turn up. So when the ref turned the corner - even if he was the worst referee in the world - I was glad to see him.

But the way it's going, we're putting people off becoming young referees at grass roots level. They need a bit more respect.

This led to a bit of a debate. 'Are they doing their best or are they cheats? No, they're doing their best, they're not cheats but they're not good enough'

My reply was, 'Well, maybe referees think the way you're running your club is wrong'.

If any of our players gets sent off for dissent it will not only cost them a week's wages, they'll also be in to see me to have it emphasised that a referee won't change his mind in a million years - so gie the guy a break!"

Outspoken and refreshing, MacDonald will ruffle SPL feathers [continues for a few more hundred words, but I've lost the will to go on].


Nope a boring self indulgent sycophantic arsehole with a Secretary doubling as an SFA committee member! ph34r.gif
QUOTE(Alibi @ Aug 3 2008, 01:23 PM) [snapback]488682[/snapback]
I was at Palmerston yesterday and the ref and linesmen (I refuse to use the PC term assistant referee) were dressed in outfits of such a bright yellow hue that I got sunburn from them. I thought they were supposed to be doing a good job if you didn't notice them. No chance of that with those outfits - or are they tacitly admitting that they aren't very good?

That stuff from the Hamilton chairman smacks of severe hypocrisy
- although what he says is actually worthwhile. I assume we will get that extra point and goal added to our total for last season now that Hamilton are admitting they were wrong to bully the ref.

SPOT ON.

QUOTE(axeman @ Aug 3 2008, 04:03 PM) [snapback]488744[/snapback]
The cosy wee arrangement whereby the Accies secretary Scott Struthers is also on the SFA Disciplinary Committee, might make Ronnie MacDonald more on the refs side. Then again as far as I can remember Hamilton & Arsenal are the only clubs I've ever seen get a ref to change his decision.

I have written to the SFA twice since I was told the Thomson decision was 'being investigated', with no response forthcoming.

IMHO Scott Struthers is a pouffe weasel, but let's not fret-the plastic playpen will be relegated! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 12:31:19
QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Aug 4 2008, 12:21 PM) [snapback]489126[/snapback]
McGuffie is anything BUT workshy. dry.gif

I agree-Huffy and Superkev are at two ends of a spectrum-one gets plaudits for 'Much ado about nothing' (or 'The comedy of errors') while the other gets lambasted for being 'The invisible man'!


I've always preferred Wells to Shakespeare.

mortonjag 2008-08-04 12:35:09
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 4 2008, 10:31 AM) [snapback]489075[/snapback]
That's a pharmacist as you well know ya auld rogue.

There is a difference? mellow.gif

QUOTE(forza ton @ Aug 4 2008, 10:55 AM) [snapback]489088[/snapback]
very clever you w*nker

May I call you a C*NT? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 12:36:56
QUOTE(stuart @ Jul 30 2008, 12:05 AM) [snapback]486432[/snapback]
Clock for sale, buy it on tick.

Apply in writing to DDF Rae-Cappielow Park Greenock.
mortonjag 2008-08-04 12:44:42 Semen is a superb contact adhesive-is that an accident of nature, or are we supposed to make use of it? mellow.gif

mortonjag 2008-08-04 12:50:10
QUOTE(tontastic @ Aug 2 2008, 07:01 PM) [snapback]488373[/snapback]
Spoke to Cuthbert before the game ... should be signed Monday. Should have been down as a triallist really today.

laugh.gif When is Mr Rae handing over to Mr Donald?

QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 2 2008, 09:39 PM) [snapback]488470[/snapback]
Stewart, by all accounts, was pretty solid today. No reason to suddenly drop him.

He cost us two points-FACT! laugh.gif

QUOTE(stuart @ Aug 2 2008, 10:07 PM) [snapback]488478[/snapback]
Why is Stewart making one mistake any worse than Russell missing 2 good chances?

He was totally unfairly pilloried on here by people before he had even played one game and now some people are demanding he is dropped after he played a really good game for us save for one mistake.

No goalkeeper at our level will get through games without making mistakes.

He was totally fairly criticised by me for having no presence and being scared to come off his line.

QUOTE(SramTon @ Aug 3 2008, 02:51 AM) [snapback]488566[/snapback]
You're not comparing apples with apples.

A forward's main job is to score/create goals. So long as he is scoring/creating his share, it doesn't matter too much how many chances are being missed. See McCoist, Ally for example.

A keeper's job is to stop goals being scored. If a keeper gives away goals he's not doing his job (and better be balancing it out with at least as many wondersaves).

Btw, the foregoing is just general comment and isn't intended as a specific criticism of Stewart.

CORRECT!
mortonjag 2008-08-04 12:56:06
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 4 2008, 11:40 AM) [snapback]489111[/snapback]
I'm sure that's why politicians of all stripes are so keen on it.

I assume you mean the 'saving MUNNY' bit!

Politicians shouldn't be let anywhere near Medicine (or Teaching for that matter).

They should all be put out to 'Care in the Community' where they would ceremoniously have f*ck booted out of them by society of all degrees of sanity.
mortonjag 2008-08-04 12:57:48
QUOTE(stuart @ Aug 4 2008, 12:31 PM) [snapback]489129[/snapback]
Everyone that thought you were away at the hospital and were all worried about you will be annoyed

Or maybe relieved, I don't know.

Did ANYBODY think I was ill? mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 12:58:56
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 4 2008, 12:28 PM) [snapback]489128[/snapback]
Not to mention the repressed homosexuality.

You reckon we have lots of pouffes in the closet?
mortonjag 2008-08-04 13:00:22
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Aug 4 2008, 12:47 PM) [snapback]489139[/snapback]
He was playing two positions. He had to cover for the fat drunk quite a few times.

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mortonjag 2008-08-04 13:03:32
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 4 2008, 11:38 AM) [snapback]489110[/snapback]
Out on a branch here I see. rolleyes.gif

I thought that One day was a wonderful book, not a political tract, rather a story about humanity vs a political machine, not a million miles away from Kafka's "The Trial" or Koestler's "Darkness at Noon".
BTW chaps, if you have not read "Darkness at noon" try to do so.

His short stories were most fine too and reflected the same themes as "Ivan Denisovitch".
Of his tomes "Cancer Ward" is imho the best.

An anti semite DE, never saw it in his works.

Bloody hell-you READ books like those-analytical chemist farmy cyst you MUST be!

I much prefer the Beano.
mortonjag 2008-08-04 14:09:57
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Aug 4 2008, 01:56 PM) [snapback]489166[/snapback]
First Morton game since this bad boy

I'm awfy excited

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Tell me-is the DEAL still on-four days without a mention of ******* or *****!! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 14:11:31 I have yielded to massive pressure from the boys. We will go to Stranraer and we F*CKIN BETTER win!
mortonjag 2008-08-04 14:20:28
QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Aug 4 2008, 02:11 PM) [snapback]489169[/snapback]
That's not like you at all. There's a first for everything, eh?

fat .
–adjective
having too much flabby tissue; corpulent; obese: a fat person.


drunk
–noun
an intoxicated person
mortonjag 2008-08-04 14:25:58 I see superkev's only had one vote! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 14:26:50
QUOTE(irvineTON @ Aug 4 2008, 08:22 AM) [snapback]489047[/snapback]
I noticed the difference when Wake was sent for an early bath on Sturday. U don't actually realise how well the big man holds the ball up! Gonna be a big loss for us when suspended. sad.gif

Sending off was harsh. Clyde were trying to be a physical outfit but being over-powered, so decided to roll about a hell of a lot!! mad.gif



How early in the game was he sent off?
mortonjag 2008-08-04 14:28:02
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Aug 4 2008, 01:07 PM) [snapback]489149[/snapback]
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Lemon juice makes excellent invisible ink.
mortonjag 2008-08-04 14:34:41 If somebody can define a 'ghost' or show me a wee picture he took of a 'ghost' I'll find it easier to comment.

'Supernatural' experiences undoubtedly exist-that does NOT mean that they don't have unexplained natural causes.
mortonjag 2008-08-04 14:58:13
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 2 2008, 09:38 PM) [snapback]488469[/snapback]
I bet you wouldn't have went into that detail if deego had been allowed in here tongue.gif

You didn't miss the detail yourself! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 15:13:06
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Aug 4 2008, 03:08 PM) [snapback]489204[/snapback]
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Beetroot is used as a dye.
mortonjag 2008-08-04 15:15:07
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 4 2008, 01:08 PM) [snapback]489152[/snapback]
Some still do, mentally wink.gif

Do you share that opinion big booby sooker? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 15:24:12 I haven't read and can't be ARSED reading the same wishy washy quasi enlightened pish from the usual culprits who find a good kick in the c*nt offensive to their lily livered and delicate little pscyhes.

Flog the little vermin within an inch of their lives-oh-and while we're at it, 'pink botty' time for the myopic fools who are happy to perpetuate mindless violence by weak kneed pandering to self destructive 'political correctness'. ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif

mortonjag 2008-08-04 15:34:55
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Aug 4 2008, 03:14 PM) [snapback]489213[/snapback]
any other wonderful facts?

ME! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 15:36:18 More speculation about a currently much overvalued player! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 15:38:41
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 4 2008, 02:51 PM) [snapback]489196[/snapback]
With us having most on the play you'd have thought one of the more foward thinking players would have stood out more . Especially against the weaker team .

Russell does miss an awful lot but he also gets into those positions more than any other player we have . I think if he can start putting a few away he can a huge player for us .

Tonsillitis doesn't like ***** laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 15:43:53
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Aug 4 2008, 02:47 PM) [snapback]489193[/snapback]
Did you get someone to arbitrate? I never got confirmation.

And those green asterix is just cheating!

But, aye, £4 I owe the hospice now I figure.

I wasn't meaning to cheat, and If it's still a deal I'll keep my side of the bargain-I tried to get folk interested as some others made noises about joining in. Why don't you start another thread-I'll even promise not to mention Bawheid for three months if we can get a Scot Nat Pledge-Wee Nickerless also if we get two.

I have many other nicknames I could put on 'hold'! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 15:51:33
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Aug 4 2008, 03:13 PM) [snapback]489212[/snapback]
It was f***ing pish. Watching Morton has the entertainment factor of Weirs Way.

Was it REALLY that bad?

All my predictions coming true?

Beefed up and hard to beat but no creativity and no entertainment?

Stewart a liability. Jimbo and Kev superfluous to requirements. No wing play-no full backs?

Oh and after we beat Stranraer we'll be tipped for the SPL!!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 15:54:20
QUOTE(MarcoTon @ Aug 4 2008, 03:49 PM) [snapback]489234[/snapback]
Big Stewart Greacen was immense today. Easily my man of the match, Keep it up big man.

Also thought Alex Walker, Spoonsy, and Wakey are also worth a mention.

I thought the 'fat drunk' was only allowed criticism! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 15:55:32
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Aug 4 2008, 03:52 PM) [snapback]489236[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED-the REFS!
mortonjag 2008-08-04 15:57:35
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 2 2008, 10:32 PM) [snapback]488481[/snapback]
I thought we were physically stronger than Clyde today and out muscled them all over the park. You need a bit of football to win championships as well as strength but in this league not being easily pushed off the ball is very important and thats not going to happen to us many times this season.

Another way of looking at it is, if you were to pick a select from todays two teams, how many Clyde players would be in it? Me, I thought that McLaren looked good but other than that, we were either better or physically stronger or both in most departments today.

Now, if the same was to apply to five or six of the rest of the teams, we could be fine this season!

Jaggy boy's been predicting 5th for weeks on end because we'll be 'hard to beat'.

Now-how about some bloody entertainment! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 15:58:34
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Aug 4 2008, 03:57 PM) [snapback]489240[/snapback]
the burd looks quite nice

Which one?
mortonjag 2008-08-04 16:07:27 I was in a wee fruiterers shop in Cupar at the weekend (the shop was wee, and the fruiterer was wee too), and I spotted a display stand sporting Mr Rae's best confectionery.

In a moment of weakness-of nostalgia almost- I purchased a bag of his 'Soor Plooms'-half of which remains in my glove compartment (the whole bag and half of the original total number of sweets, or thereby) for sooking to and from Stranraer.

I paid 99p and 49p for a can of diet Coke, and didn't even get the Monkey a banana.
mortonjag 2008-08-04 16:11:06
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 4 2008, 03:37 PM) [snapback]489226[/snapback]
You know damn well there is you old sawbones. laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-08-04 16:13:08 Maybe Mr Rae could do a wee deal on the all new Wispy Wudga
mortonjag 2008-08-04 16:15:10
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Aug 4 2008, 04:11 PM) [snapback]489251[/snapback]
muz - email me at sintay_galeska@msn.com and i'll send you his email address.

BLOODY HELL MANKY'S GONE SOFT-he's blocked p.m's, and Mortonjag's just sent hin 47 offensive e-mails! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 16:16:24
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 4 2008, 04:10 PM) [snapback]489248[/snapback]
I pondered this mystery for years. Why would someone won't to kill Jill Dando? The answer is obvious. It was a case of mistaken identity. The intended victim was actually Judith Chalmers.

or Judy Murray? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 16:27:32
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 4 2008, 10:39 AM) [snapback]489078[/snapback]
If you get on at a manned station without a valid ticket and have to purchase it on the train you get charged the peak fair, regardless if it is a half or a full. There are plenty of signs at stations stating this.

The free kids thing is only at the weekends I think.

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mortonjag 2008-08-04 16:29:13
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 1 2008, 07:47 PM) [snapback]487717[/snapback]
Surely a cheaper way would be to change your name by deed poll to match the registration number of your car? huh.gif



UPU 2



is self explanatory! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 16:31:52
QUOTE(Alibi @ Aug 4 2008, 04:30 PM) [snapback]489261[/snapback]
Use it for cooking. Coq au Vin or maybe a nice wee Beef Bourgignon.

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mortonjag 2008-08-04 16:35:17
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Jul 31 2008, 08:59 PM) [snapback]487302[/snapback]
I'll be booing laugh.gif Fekin right bouncy.gif




Will they be singing the lyrics or just playing the choon Spurtle-I quite like the choon, though I once almost got a doing for refusing to stand up when it was played (in a certain pub)! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 16:41:23
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 4 2008, 04:35 PM) [snapback]489265[/snapback]
For those of you who may be interested, Mouse Eat Mouse are performing at the 13th Note in King Street Glasgow on Thursday August 21st at 8pm.

Hopefully see some you there.
http://www.myspace.com/mousehq
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea...iendid=40419293




I just discovered the mouse eat mouse web site-I was listening to the wee choon when my partner asked 'what's that-it's rubbish'?

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mortonjag 2008-08-04 16:47:00
QUOTE(bigstu22 @ Aug 2 2008, 11:10 AM) [snapback]487990[/snapback]
Anyone else got private plates?

Aye-only pouffes don't have them those days.

QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Aug 3 2008, 08:33 PM) [snapback]488854[/snapback]
so see if mines says JACQU1 does that make me a w*nker?????????????? ohmy.gif

Can't use a 'Q' in normal registrations!

J4KYS laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 16:50:06
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Aug 4 2008, 03:15 PM) [snapback]489215[/snapback]
He's very important for us these days, but I think we can do ok with Russell and Newby up top. It will be a very different game as we will look for those 2 in the channels a lot, much like in the Renfrewshire Cup Final, which may leave us a little short in the box. It will be very important to get the midfield up in support when we get the ball wide.

To Newby or Russell as our 'wingers' are keech.
mortonjag 2008-08-04 16:51:15
QUOTE(Deego @ Aug 4 2008, 04:48 PM) [snapback]489275[/snapback]

TFIWM! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 16:51:49
QUOTE(Deego @ Aug 4 2008, 04:37 PM) [snapback]489267[/snapback]
I'm rofling. Shag her though.

Which one?
mortonjag 2008-08-04 16:55:50
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Aug 4 2008, 04:51 PM) [snapback]489279[/snapback]
Take the money and run! blush.gif

Fling in Kev for an extra £20,000! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 16:58:09
QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 4 2008, 04:55 PM) [snapback]489284[/snapback]
Welcome back biggrin.gif glad you enjoyed your trip.

TY--BTW the Monkey loves the signature with the nuns in it!
mortonjag 2008-08-04 17:00:57
QUOTE(le_chien_manquee @ Aug 4 2008, 04:57 PM) [snapback]489289[/snapback]
it's my junk address. you can join the nigerian scammers and canadian medicine salemen if you like, i won't be reading them.

Sells swish west end flat and buys house boat in Hong Kong.
mortonjag 2008-08-04 17:08:20
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 4 2008, 04:57 PM) [snapback]489287[/snapback]
Yes, but other animal species lick their own baws (if available) and can't make a bowl of soup. rolleyes.gif
The line between the animal kingdom and Moley's cafe remains blurred however. unsure.gif

I'm reliably informed that those knife wielding thickos cannot even open a can of soup.

As for them having baws-I'd soon see to that. bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 17:10:43
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Aug 4 2008, 05:04 PM) [snapback]489295[/snapback]
So? He's pish up front! laugh.gif

Not ALWAYS! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 17:28:41
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 4 2008, 05:16 PM) [snapback]489302[/snapback]
I've always said, you'll either love us or hate.

I couldn't make my mind up on the basis of one choon TBH! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 17:30:25
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 4 2008, 05:28 PM) [snapback]489308[/snapback]
People who have weans at 15 have a tendency to learn little at school.

People who learn a lot at school tend not to have weans at 15.
mortonjag 2008-08-04 17:33:27
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 4 2008, 05:09 PM) [snapback]489300[/snapback]
I do actually like Russell. He's a whole hearted trier and he gets himself into lots and lots of scoring positions. I would just like to see him score a higher proportion of his chances. In particlualr I can think of at least six one on ones with the keeper and I have yet to see him score one.

He seems best as a striker when he does'nt get a chance to think about his shot and just reacts instinctively.

Oh and I would like to see him stay on his feet more. He goes over a bit too easily for my liking.

His purple patch will come-it happens to all good strikers Mr Russell will end up top scorer this season unless Spoonsy is moved forward! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 17:37:16
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 4 2008, 05:21 PM) [snapback]489304[/snapback]
You'll like this!

As is my thing I have had occasion to be looking at a few player's stats recently and these are Spoonsey's

Total appearances for Morton up to yesterday - 196 starts plus 9 off the bench
First appearance - 2nd August 2003 (scored hat trick against Arbroath in 4-3 victory)
Goals scored - 74

Thats not a bad record and a better goalscoring record than anyone currently at the club. So, no matter what his critics think, he's not a bad an option upfront!


I LOVE IT


THE 'FAT DRUNK' WAS, IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE A STRIKER AND WHEN HE GETS THIN AND 'DRY' HE'LL SCORE THIRTY A SEASON!

mortonjag 2008-08-04 17:41:41
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 4 2008, 05:35 PM) [snapback]489312[/snapback]
All you need is an ounce of common sense - or see the local babykiller doctor. unsure.gif

You are confusing me here-are you referring to my penchant for tender meat and cannibalism, or the average G.P.s statutory requirement to 'refer on' patients requesting termination of pregnancy?
mortonjag 2008-08-04 19:51:19
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 4 2008, 06:00 PM) [snapback]489320[/snapback]
'When' he gets thin?

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mortonjag 2008-08-04 19:55:07
QUOTE(Deego @ Aug 4 2008, 04:57 PM) [snapback]489290[/snapback]
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TFIWMorrrissey! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 19:56:00
QUOTE(C B @ Aug 4 2008, 06:53 PM) [snapback]489352[/snapback]
you missed a nought dry.gif

Sorry CB---£2,000!
mortonjag 2008-08-04 19:57:38
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 4 2008, 07:49 PM) [snapback]489363[/snapback]
Correct. The way some go on here about Peter is ridiculous at times. He is a very capable player at this level.

THE 'FAT DRUNK' WAS, IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE A STRIKER!
mortonjag 2008-08-04 20:00:07
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 4 2008, 05:45 PM) [snapback]489315[/snapback]
Suprised to see Mortonjag so easily confused. rolleyes.gif

No you're not! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 20:01:23 FUDGY WUDGY ph34r.gif choked my budgie!
mortonjag 2008-08-04 20:03:58
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Aug 4 2008, 07:55 PM) [snapback]489368[/snapback]
looks like it was designed by Colin and Justin.

Perfect for a quarter pounders logo!
mortonjag 2008-08-04 20:05:35
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 4 2008, 07:56 PM) [snapback]489370[/snapback]
You'd think a doctor like yourself would concede that efforts to shift some weight isn't certain to succeed, no?

In my humble and extensive experience, EFFORTS to shift some weight are invariably met with some success!
mortonjag 2008-08-04 20:10:05 I think what happens is that Jimbo usually gets pulled down when he inevitably turns inside the right back, and the Refs are always unsighted because he's between them and the defenders tootsies. The Refs should just automatically blow for a free kick the minute Jimbo starts one of his mazy runs, cos everybody knows what's going to happen anyway! angel.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 20:11:07
QUOTE(Deego @ Aug 4 2008, 08:07 PM) [snapback]489380[/snapback]
Moz did a cover of that song, thought about posting it. Went for the original though.

The Monkey approves!
mortonjag 2008-08-04 20:11:57
QUOTE(Deego @ Aug 4 2008, 08:06 PM) [snapback]489379[/snapback]
Just ask midTONs!

How many times has he scored in the last month? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-04 20:28:46
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mortonjag 2008-08-04 20:31:29 Stranraer 0 Morton 4 (Russell2, Wake, McGuffie) smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-05 09:00:35
QUOTE(SramTon @ Aug 4 2008, 08:38 PM) [snapback]489394[/snapback]
Hmm, I thought emphasising words in bold from the original newspaper quote would have made my intentions clear, but I think one or two have misinterpreted me. For the record, I agree entirely with the following:
Doubt anyone cares, but I'll be losing sleep at the thought that anyone thinks I was actually backing MacDonald on this!! sleep.gif

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I think your emphasis of your emphasis made your real feelings pretty clear. I hear the Refs may be about to strike-it's not just about money they claim-more about having their integrity and ability respected.

How can downing your whistle gain you more respect?

They are already a shower of greedy b*****ds doing part time jobs for (at SPL level at least) more than twice as much as the average national income, to say nothing of all the freebies and junketry.

Respect, as ever, is earned, and the truth is that refereeing in Scotland ain't that respectable.

Going 'on strike' for more money-at least I understand greed. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-05 09:03:13
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 4 2008, 10:08 PM) [snapback]489435[/snapback]
A quarter pound c**k maybe!!!!

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mortonjag 2008-08-05 09:08:24
QUOTE(C B @ Aug 4 2008, 09:07 PM) [snapback]489412[/snapback]
Yes cause that's what missed means, having one extra blink.gif

CB-here's a serious proposition!

Would you care to give your fellow posters a short summary of Kev's attributes, which in your opinion make him a valuable right sided attacking player, and preferable to a proper right winger (which is my only real gripe about him).
mortonjag 2008-08-05 09:11:13
QUOTE(Pedro1874 @ Aug 4 2008, 09:57 PM) [snapback]489427[/snapback]
I've heard romours form clyde fans that our goal on satuarday was offside what do you think?
No papers have picked up on it. But they seem adamint.

It happens all the time-who cares if he was marginally on or off?
mortonjag 2008-08-05 09:16:27
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 4 2008, 08:55 PM) [snapback]489407[/snapback]
I'll just settle for a victory! Stair Park is not a happy hunting ground!

See you all there!

Old misery guts-if I pass that clapped out Peugeot of yours the Monkey will throw you some nuts to cheer you up. laugh.gif

QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 4 2008, 09:50 PM) [snapback]489424[/snapback]
Stranraer 1-1 Morton ( Stranraer win 4-1 on penalties)
if it was any other competition i'd have us down to win, but this competition hates us.

JM hath departed-we are hard to beat-we'll be a GOOD cup side this season.

Mortonjag hath spoken.

QUOTE(princessTON @ Aug 4 2008, 10:03 PM) [snapback]489431[/snapback]
im sorry but im gonna have to say 2-1 stranraer sad.gif

I heard Jason Walker's trialling for Stranraer tonight princess! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-05 09:19:17
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Aug 5 2008, 02:40 AM) [snapback]489500[/snapback]
I don't think it was.

Most people I spoke to were gutted by the late goal but upbeat about the performance.

Was it exciting?
mortonjag 2008-08-05 09:27:02
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 5 2008, 07:04 AM) [snapback]489507[/snapback]
well, 2 months have passed.

Still ZERO investment ??

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The script appears pretty simple Newt. Alistair wants control of the club he is almost as passionate about as he is about the Huns, though I'm CERTAIN he'll not be at Stair Park tonight! rolleyes.gif


Crawford will be getting the stadium up to SPL standards on the strength of the recent share issue which is strictly earmarked for that purpose (note the specificity of the funding, which smacks of AD).

In the meantime it has been reported that the Chairman has already been approached with an offer, but that he and Mr Donald could not agree terms.

From those simple pieces of information, it's easy to deduce the reason for his non investment so far! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-05 09:44:18
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Aug 4 2008, 04:50 PM) [snapback]489277[/snapback]
jag - you didn't make the game so let me correct you.

Stewart was VERY dominant in his box. He had three or four excellent punches clear and was as vocal a keeper as I've seen.

A MASSIVE improvement on McGurn based on that performance.

That's good news, and NOT what I noticed in the matches I saw. Furthermore, we'll be stronger in front of the goalie when the central defence injuries clear up.

Back to JonaTON's point about his unreliability! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-05 09:49:02
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 4 2008, 08:59 PM) [snapback]489410[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(C B @ Aug 4 2008, 06:51 PM) [snapback]489349[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I see what you're saying, but then does it not worry you that we didn't actually beat them huh.gif

It wasnt unlike the game we had to win last year which ended up 1-1. There is no advantage in looking better than the opposing team if you can't get the result?

A better barometer for where we are will be next week against St Elmos Johnstone.
I take your point but Clyde were lucky on Saturday and there will be times when the luck will flow the other way. A lot of people were seeing Clyde as dark horses and maybe they will be yet but we made them look fairly ordinary.

All we need is to start taking a few of the chances that are falling to...................Russell!! blush.gif

ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif

All we need is two decent wingers and a ball playing midfielder and Russell will do just dandy! cool.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-05 09:51:38
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 5 2008, 07:24 AM) [snapback]489513[/snapback]
THE 'FAT DRUNK' WAS, IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE A DRINKER???!
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Ask ThornTON, Newt-it's his description! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-05 09:54:51
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 5 2008, 09:29 AM) [snapback]489534[/snapback]
Happy with my lot. happy.gif



1 Timothy 6:8 If we have food and covering, with these we shall be content. blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-05 10:01:55
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 4 2008, 10:54 PM) [snapback]489452[/snapback]
Publishers of "lads' mags" should be held to account for encouraging irresponsible young men to view women as sex objects, the Conservatives said.

Senior shadow cabinet member Michael Gove said titles such as Zoo and Nuts reinforced a "shallow approach" to women, and linked them to a rise in feckless fatherhood and family breakdown.

In a high-profile speech on family and society, Mr Gove also accused Gordon Brown of undermining communities through an obsession with state control.

Mr Gove said the Tories saw stable families as a "route to greater equality and opportunity" and pledged to support them through the tax system.

He told the Institute for Public Policy Research in London: "Helping adults commit and stay committed not only opens the door to a depth of emotional enrichment which a series of shallow and hedonistic encounters can never generate, it also provides the best possible start in life for children."

The drive to reduce the number of teenage pregnancies should be focussed on making young men face up to their responsibilities, he said, beginning with lads' mags.

"I believe we need to ask tough questions about the instant-hit hedonism celebrated by the modern men's magazines targeted at younger males.

"Titles such as Nuts and Zoo paint a picture of women as permanently, lasciviously, uncomplicatedly available. The images they use and project reinforce a very narrow conception of beauty and a shallow approach towards women. They celebrate thrill-seeking and instant gratification without ever allowing any thought of responsibility towards others, or commitment, to intrude.

"The contrast with the work done by women's magazines, and their publishers, to address their readers in a mature and responsible fashion, is striking.

"We should ask those who make profits out of revelling in, or encouraging, selfish irresponsibility among young men, what they think they're doing. The relationship between these titles and their readers is a relationship in which the rest of us have an interest."

Now why don't they criticise tabloid journalism about some of the seedier sides ofgutter journalism . I don't know what the circulation of such magazines are but has this idiot never heard of the internet .

How can politicians solve problems when they are so off base with the causes .

As always the Tories are stuck in a Victorian warp. The greatest transformation in the gender stakes in the last generation has been the empowerment of (young) women.

They are more than happy with, and go to enormous lengths to promote their sexuality and desirability, more often than not with a view to much more than just a'quickie' up the close. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-05 10:08:54
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Aug 5 2008, 07:22 AM) [snapback]489511[/snapback]
you calling me a jakie???? probably right there! lol nah only joking! if its a cherished plate can it be used???


I've checked for you and all the current numbers which read anything like Jaqui have been sold!
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 5 2008, 07:44 AM) [snapback]489515[/snapback]
wot about AUELOX ?

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or 1D FES laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-05 10:21:58
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 5 2008, 08:17 AM) [snapback]489520[/snapback]
I've made my living from the music industry for the last 20 years. We're not all cocaine snorting champaine guzzling Londoners.
Dave is a fine chap it has to be said.



Who is this Dave guy-I hope nobody is referring to the clatty drop oot with the smelliest trainers in Hyndland, a f*cked Aga, and a bristling resentment of all success except his own! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-05 10:27:00
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 4 2008, 11:15 PM) [snapback]489463[/snapback]
personed? unsure.gif

Staffed.
mortonjag 2008-08-05 10:33:17
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 5 2008, 10:09 AM) [snapback]489549[/snapback]
In that wee swedish oddity you've got?? Eat my dust!! laugh.gif


My little Swedish oddity can rip the French knickers off that Gallic Giddyup!


QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 5 2008, 10:22 AM) [snapback]489554[/snapback]
We'll pass you both in our turbo charged bus/coach/big thing with huge wheels, just let us know if you want a bovril kept for you. rolleyes.gif

On the road to Stranraer very little gets past a bus, and NOTHING gets past Mortonjag! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-05 12:15:53
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Aug 5 2008, 09:44 AM) [snapback]489541[/snapback]
I enjoyed it. Far better performance than any pre season friendlies. Russell still missed a header on the edge of the six yard box, also missed one on one with the keeper but did hit woodwork twice so he is getting into goal scoring positions and we are improving the supply. Jim and Kev are definately playing more withdrawn roles , not pretty to watch. Stewart had two fine saves , I am happier with him than I have been in a Morton keeper for many years.

It had to be exciting. 1- 0 hanging on ref booked 6 !!! Morton players , all scared to put in a tackle or they were off, so clyde pouring on the pressure and the sand glass slowing to a trickle.

Thanks-looking forward to tonight!

QUOTE(LargsTON @ Aug 5 2008, 10:59 AM) [snapback]489573[/snapback]
The performance wasn't overly bad but there was little flowing football or flair on show and the only "excitement" was created by the appalling officiating.

I was bored out my skull in the first half as AT's picture shows. laugh.gif

So it was a big improvement on last season but the JM legacy of 'flinging it away' has to be sorted.
mortonjag 2008-08-05 12:24:34 It looks like DI is obsessed with the Morton version of the Maginot Line.

Shimmin was excellent in the second half against Hartlepool-he took control and looked very mature. If we get Cuthbert too, I reckon the 'goals against' this season will be the lowest since Rae took the reins.

I STILL can't understand our lack of wing backs, wingers, and a creative midfielder. Is there more to come?

Maybe AD's been giving DI a fly wee sub! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-05 12:27:50
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Aug 5 2008, 11:13 AM) [snapback]489578[/snapback]
I believe "prawn flicker's" the term you were groping for. blush.gif

You've been sporting your prawn in public AGAIN! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-05 12:31:14 How many of you spoon fed weans will be attending a proper University?
mortonjag 2008-08-05 12:39:26
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 5 2008, 12:07 PM) [snapback]489606[/snapback]
This forum doesn't accept your PC pi5h happy.gif

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It's not MY PC pish young man-I'm no lover of Political Correctness as you very well know.

I get quite upset by adverts for 'Professional Wrestler-testicles not essential but could be an advantage' etc., etc.

I just feel that 'manned' is liable to provoke a reaction, irrespective of its correctness! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-05 12:45:16
QUOTE(El gofer @ Aug 5 2008, 12:27 PM) [snapback]489631[/snapback]
MJ, Stewart, I think was fouled for the goal. I thought he played well. I dont think he is a liability.
I thought Jim was disappointing, but Kev got up and down.

At the moment, I agree that we may not be that entertaining. In my eyes that is what we need at the mo. To stabilise in the division, we needed beefed up. Teams wont run over the top of us.

I can only go on what I saw-hopefully you are correct.

'What we need' at the moment is entirely a matter of opinion. I'm happy that we'll be hard to beat, and unhappy that it's been apparently done to the detriment of productive attacking football. The game IS supposed to be an entertainment-well that's MY opinion!
mortonjag 2008-08-05 12:50:15
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Aug 5 2008, 12:26 PM) [snapback]489629[/snapback]
JAgster, didnt the Maginot Line get breached though?

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PRECISELY my point


Generally considered one of the great failures of military history, the term "Maginot Line" is now sometimes used as a metaphor for something that is confidently relied upon, but in the end proves ineffective.

No use if we can't score goals!!! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-05 12:56:03
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Aug 5 2008, 12:28 PM) [snapback]489633[/snapback]
C'mon Jag. All good teams are built from the back. DI's going about the job in the correct manner, only problem is we may have to suffer a while as he works his way forward. laugh.gif

St Mirren were clean sheet specialists on their march to the SPL, we could be the same. biggrin.gif

My gut instinct is that there could be another two on the way. cool.gif



Really!

The most successful, and BY FAR the most exciting Ton team I can remember had this forward nine:


Adamson, Stevenson, Caven, McGraw, and Wilson.

The rest were, by any standards average to goodISH, and they simply rampaged their way to promotion.

If we had that forward line tonight, we could probably ask JM to supply the rest from Firs Park and we'd still win! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-05 13:00:26
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 5 2008, 12:52 PM) [snapback]489660[/snapback]
Well it wasn't technicaly breached, more circumnavigated, although nothing stops your crusades against the board and management. blush.gif

That is a well known myth SPARROT-it WAS breached in the Belgian sector-and regarding any crusade against the Management-grow up. I always try to highlight the good and bad points in anything-I've praised DI/DC for much of what they've achieved. We now need attractive attacking football to bring the crowds back. In that respect I'm being supportive of the Board too! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-05 13:04:09 Pink is for Pouffe Partick Ponces
mortonjag 2008-08-05 13:12:49
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Aug 5 2008, 12:35 PM) [snapback]489639[/snapback]
Define your proper University.

Everybody who's anybody knows what a proper University is.

QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 5 2008, 12:44 PM) [snapback]489649[/snapback]
As Fankie Boyle would say, one that didn't use to be a swimming pool.

Someone has posted 'higher photography' above. Can you actually do a higher in photography? Seems like a joke. Could I do a higher in hill walking?

You could probably do a Ph.D. in flower pressing as some of today's 'Universities'!

QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 5 2008, 12:54 PM) [snapback]489662[/snapback]
Adv History - C (appeal)
Adv English - B (appeal)
Modern Studies - A
Accounts - A

Well, well, well, SPARROT-I'm shocked at the History-looks like they were expecting more than regurgitation! oops.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-05 15:32:45
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 5 2008, 01:03 PM) [snapback]489671[/snapback]
The Maginot line did not extend to the Belgian sector: had it did so the Germans would not have conquered France.

Had it DONE so! rolleyes.gif

From 'Wiki'---


It is a myth however that the Maginot line ended at the Belgian border and was easy to circumvent. The fortifications were connected to the Belgian fortification system, of which the strongest point was Fort Eben Emael. The Germans broke through exactly at this fortified point which made it possible for them to invade France.

Mortonjag

History ..A

English ...A


M.A. in English and History from a proper University, and always here to help, son! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-05 15:42:48
QUOTE(leyTON @ Aug 5 2008, 01:18 PM) [snapback]489682[/snapback]
adv higher english C
higher french - B
higher sociology - *cough*

chuffed to be honest, although will probably appeal english. Enough to attend the proper uni of my choice, strathclyde

Strathclyde has developed into a reasonably proper University-it was not always so!

QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Aug 5 2008, 01:21 PM) [snapback]489685[/snapback]
Schnapp. Strathclyde for me too.

Another for Anderson's college! blush.gif

QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 5 2008, 01:33 PM) [snapback]489694[/snapback]
So long as you acknowledge your sources, it is seen as a vital part of the course. 1eye.gif
We shall see how the appeal works out.

I just have this wee theory SPARROT that if you're going to be rated on your ability to spew back loads of bumph, you should be sitting advanced Parrotry! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-05 15:46:14
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Jul 25 2008, 08:02 PM) [snapback]484021[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-08-05 16:01:59
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 5 2008, 03:52 PM) [snapback]489787[/snapback]
I'm with Mr McArthur, they are brain dead central.

There was a decent piece in Today's times by the first editor of Loaded.
Clicky

I honestly don't think that those magazines do much to alter the desperate need of impressionable young men to 'score'! Literate or otherwise, they still spend half their lives with hard ons, dreaming of shagging whatever seems most exciting-NOT of establishing a lasting and loving relationship. For advice on the second, I'd suggest the Bible, or preferably current divorce statistics.

Referring to your Times article and my previous comment, I also noted this---



Likewise, Mr Gove's suggestion that women's magazines are in some way more mature in their perspective on relationships and sex is ludicrous. Yes, they have fewer pin-ups, but if you put together a woman based on the editorial content of all women's magazines you would end up with a neurotic, diet-addicted shopaholic who is obsessed with her hair and paranoid that she will never get a man. Men, like women. are more than the contents of their favourite magazines.
mortonjag 2008-08-05 16:09:50
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 5 2008, 03:47 PM) [snapback]489784[/snapback]
Indeed John St Tech has indeed come on. rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 5 2008, 03:53 PM) [snapback]489788[/snapback]
Yes well consulting and using sources of knowledge eminently greater than your own seems like a good idea IMO. happy.gif
Would my grades be suitable for a career in medicine I wonder? blush.gif

I've NEVER ONCE known you to heed a word I've typed SPARROT!

QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 5 2008, 03:56 PM) [snapback]489795[/snapback]
Nope. ph34r.gif

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mortonjag 2008-08-05 16:13:31
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 5 2008, 04:09 PM) [snapback]489803[/snapback]
Deego at it? Heard he'd pump anything!

Coming from massive booby sooker of the year, that's rich! thumbdown.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-05 16:15:56
QUOTE(ScotinBelgie @ Aug 5 2008, 04:10 PM) [snapback]489805[/snapback]
Wrong on this one I'm afraid. Consulting yes but using no - that's what the grey matter between the ears is for - thinking for yourself. Otherwise you will find yourself quoting MJ - oh wait a minute you do quote MJ!!

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Wisdom from a man who didn't even attend a proper University! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-05 16:41:41
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 5 2008, 04:15 PM) [snapback]489809[/snapback]
And why would that be?

Your question young man, is the answer!
mortonjag 2008-08-05 16:49:06
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 5 2008, 03:56 PM) [snapback]489793[/snapback]
Connected, not part of.
The Belgian fortification system indeed ran aground at Eben Emael, but that's hardly the fault of the French, was it now?
The Maginot line was not breached, the Belgian line of defences was indeed.
You prove nothing Mr Mentaljag except your own conceit and use of notoriously unreliable sources. happy.gif

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Ach, ye done quite well in the wee exams son-don't take it oot on poor Jaggy! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-05 16:51:08
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 5 2008, 04:12 PM) [snapback]489807[/snapback]
Didn't stop her

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDThat's a male person!
mortonjag 2008-08-05 16:56:31 Right-just about to leave-definitely 4-0 to us. The Monkey has packed his bananas and his nuts are carefully tucked away, Fing's new nail gun's in the boot just in case it's required, and the Jag is singing a merry choon!

C'MON YE TON!



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mortonjag 2008-08-06 00:20:22
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Aug 5 2008, 08:18 PM) [snapback]489987[/snapback]
I can't wait fot the giant pink font tomorrow, come on Leafy!!!

Not allowed at present Mrs T laugh.gif


QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 5 2008, 09:25 PM) [snapback]490103[/snapback]
so what we're saying this season is we have a solid defence but we can't score...

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First half was a literal walk over. Second half we came off the gas and gave them space especially with all the substitutions, but we were NEVER in danger against a mediocre second division side.

Saturday will be VERY different. Tonight there were several convincing individual displays and I HAVE to add that those who rate Jimbo at over £100,000 should have seen how POOR he was against that lot!

Wakey is a revelation, while Russell and Newby work their baws off and don't lack skill. Huffy did quite a lot of work and got his goal. Masterton was relatively anonymous along with Pantaloons (certainly in terms of any creativity), while Spoonsy yet again showed he's a talented footballer. Shimmin is promising at only 20, and despite the three goals, Cuthbert looks miles ahead of Stewart IMO.

Who's left? Alex Walker-not too bad-not too good at left back-his duffed tackle led to their first goal, but the boy's an attacking midfielder!

Having said all that we have NO shape, and NO creativity from midfield. Still much to be worked on! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-06 00:33:46
QUOTE(bigstu22 @ Aug 5 2008, 09:12 PM) [snapback]490079[/snapback]
Q denotes a rebuilt, radically altered vehicle or kit car



.......or taxi!
mortonjag 2008-08-06 00:36:24
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 5 2008, 11:16 PM) [snapback]490199[/snapback]
have you been short-changed then?

Mortonjag has NEVER been short changed Alistair! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-06 00:38:19
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 6 2008, 12:16 AM) [snapback]490209[/snapback]
We were very good in the first half and ran right over the top of Stranraer. We scored 5 decent goals and conceded a fluky deflection. The back three looked solid (Greacen, Shimmin, Walker), midfield ran things and our strikers made the most of the chances they got.

Second half you can't blame them for taking the foot off the gas a bit. Plus we had a back three of Shimmin McManus and Harding. One new player and two guys who have not played for a while so Stranraer started to dominate a bit. They scored two good goals and you could'nt blame Cuthbert for any of them. The third in particualr was the goal of the game - a dipper from25 yards.

Peter was moved up front presumably to see how he would do with Saturday in mind. He gave a MoM performance in defence but once upfront he was terrible to be honest. If he can't hold the ball up against Stranraer, I don't fancy him to do it against Saints. I think we just need to go with two up and maybe Masterton pushed a bit further forward.

As has been already said, Jim scored a direct hit right through the snack bar hatch. I told him he would have to pay for his Bovril in future!! Fortunately it was funny. It could have been nasty if it had sent boiling water flying, for example.

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mortonjag 2008-08-06 00:43:59
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 5 2008, 11:44 PM) [snapback]490203[/snapback]
A sound and wise choice young man. Don't listen to that nasty Mortonjag!

Puggsy_ton,
Glasgow Caledonian Accounting Graduate 2008 smile.gif

Edit - If you ever need a law book by MacMillan and Lambie I'll sell you it cheaper than the book shop wink.gif

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Mortonjag has merely alluded to the relative illiteracy of Big Booby Sooker of the Year, while commenting than Caledonian is not a proper University!

Port Juniors has produced the occasional competent footballer I'd imagine! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-06 00:48:36
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Aug 5 2008, 05:30 PM) [snapback]489860[/snapback]
I agree, you can practically see her bollocks! ohmy.gif

...and 'she' has no big boobies for young Puggs to sook! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-06 01:00:59
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 6 2008, 12:52 AM) [snapback]490220[/snapback]
One can take a Bachelor of Photography at an improper university.

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Oh well Newt-when we were boys, a University graduate was perceived to have achieved something of value, but then in those days a University was a University, and there were only four in Scotland!

Nowadays, when somebody says, 'I'm a University graduate', he's probably got a scrap of paper from a two bit Tech, and thinks he's arrived!

Off to bed with the Monkey now! angel.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-06 01:02:28
QUOTE(Mick @ Aug 6 2008, 01:00 AM) [snapback]490222[/snapback]
Horses for courses, MJ.

I believe the course our Puggs attended at Caley will be rated, by those in the know, as being on a par with the course being offered at Strathclyde.
These Universities would offer the best two undergraduate courses on the subject of Accountancy in Glasgow.

Unfortunately the BAcc, presumably offered by a so-called "proper Uni", simply doesn't come up to scratch.

Discuss. 30 Marks.

Good for you!
mortonjag 2008-08-06 12:14:00
QUOTE(ayrstorm @ Aug 6 2008, 10:33 AM) [snapback]490260[/snapback]
Given Stranraer play in division two this season, I assume this is your next prediction for us all - put money on Stranraer to be relegated at the end of the season wink.gif

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Somebody reads my posts!
mortonjag 2008-08-06 12:19:44
QUOTE(Mick @ Aug 6 2008, 01:22 AM) [snapback]490226[/snapback]
'I believe' was intended to refer to the statement as being accurate..... a statement of fact.
Therefore, since I believe you put your name to that response, you have scored 1 out of 30.

Fail.
Unfortunately, even by Caley standards, that doesn't get you a pass. wink.gif

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Proper Universities concentrate on proper subjects-counting is best learned in Primary School.
mortonjag 2008-08-06 12:22:28
QUOTE(Welling Ton @ Aug 5 2008, 03:18 PM) [snapback]489772[/snapback]
Brians Driving School. I passed 1st time. Let me know if u need the number.

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Bryan has difficulty avoiding Mortonjag's toes!
mortonjag 2008-08-06 12:29:02 My parents always advised me never to buy anything on H.P.! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-06 12:34:23
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 6 2008, 09:27 AM) [snapback]490253[/snapback]
She did acquire some later into her life.

Mind you also by then the amount of steroids she has took means her c**t looks like a c**k!

Her cl1t looks like a cork?
mortonjag 2008-08-06 12:52:05 We have the strongest squad for many a year, and possibly the least creative. We're only two or three signings off a push for promotion, but we NEVER seem capable of getting the correct balance.

Newby, Russell, Wake, and Weatherson are BOUND to score a barrow load of goals among them over this season IF they get enough chances in the box, yet we have persisted with two 'wingers' who IMHO don't fit the current set up, and should have been replaced. Even NOW I'd rather have Andy McLaren (for example) on the right in place of superman, and Jimbo's rusting away on the left, which is a shame.

Midfield-big and strong, and desperate to get rid of the ball at every opportunity while Stevenson's farmed out, and Millar left for a happier place.

It's staring us in the face, but I know I'm about to be told that the Manager always knows best. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-06 13:31:45 Refereeing & Disciplinary
Disciplinary News

GENERAL PURPOSES COMMITTEE

Tuesday, 05 Aug 2008

Dundee United Manager Craig Levein has today been fined £5000 by the General Purposes Committee for comments made following the Rangers v Dundee United match on 10 May 2008.

Mr Levein was found to be in breach of the following Articles of Association:

123 - Bringing the game Into disrepute
126 - Criticising the performance of match officials in such a way as to indicate bias or incompetence.

Full details of all the decisions of the General Purposes Committee will be released once all the Clubs and Individuals have been informed.




How much was faultless Rev. McCurry fined for 'bringing the game into disrepute'?


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mortonjag 2008-08-06 14:14:10 Those days most folk seem to go straight to the computer for entertainment. I enjoy the challenge of crosswords, and it's a good way of developing knowledge and vocabulary.

Scrabble-arguably the best board game ever invented-is it dying out, or do any of you still play?
mortonjag 2008-08-06 15:12:38
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 6 2008, 02:19 PM) [snapback]490315[/snapback]
I'm trying to figure out cryptic crosswords. It's a slow progress which I am sure delights you.

Maybe I should have done a course on it at a proper uni wink.gif

Cryptic crosswords are all about lateral thinking-something relatively foreign to most accountants!

Here's one I've made just for you!


THIS CHARMER LOSES TWO POINTS FOR DRONING! (7) smile.gif




mortonjag 2008-08-06 15:53:13
QUOTE(bigstu22 @ Aug 6 2008, 03:42 PM) [snapback]490332[/snapback]
Passed a Rolls Royce with 'MR SIM' today. Someone linked with mobile phones, I'd imagine. Anyone know?

He's a card!
mortonjag 2008-08-06 16:37:34 PLEASE-let's get this right for once-either a BIGGIE away, or a minnow at home. We need to make some money from the cups this season, instead of the 'distraction from the league' mince that's been talked in the past.
mortonjag 2008-08-06 16:42:17
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 6 2008, 04:02 PM) [snapback]490339[/snapback]
Quite, it would be good if TGFITW see their team out in the next round and humped in the UEFA.

I can dream. happy.gif

Indeed-maybe the Herald could see fit to do even a WEE report on CIS cup matches involving the mighty Ton if it didn't have to pander to OF pressure!

FTOF mightily! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-06 16:49:35
QUOTE(SramTon @ Aug 5 2008, 06:59 PM) [snapback]489897[/snapback]
Had Gray not been and gone before either Thomas or Curran joined?

I don't think McPherson became a real player for us until McCall converted him into a left-back. During the Stark era I would've have said he was signficantly better than McAllister is now.

I think a fit Jenkins could also have given Curran a run for his money.

I'll certainly give you Thomas - much better than anything we have at the moment. I'd say the same also for, at the very least, Maxwell and Fenwick.

So basically we agree (although not for the same reasons tongue.gif )

Hagi couldn't match Jimbo as an all rounder but as a left winger there's just no comparison!

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 5 2008, 07:21 PM) [snapback]489912[/snapback]
Two very good signings in Shimmi and Cuthbert. I'm really pleased with the squad now.

I would expect Cuthbert to claim the first choice keeper position, but Stewart should be given a chance to show he is worthy of the place.

Shimmi has to be a first choice player with a CV like that. And we wouldn't sign McManus to sit on the bench with his experience. So the central defence will be Shimmi, McManus....?? Real competition in there now with Greacen and Harding fighting for a place as well which is fantastic.

Midfield looks strong, and I would expect it to get stronger once Jenkins comes back.

Peter's best chance of a game would be if he moved forward as a striker. And again good competition for places up there too.

I'm exited again !! thumbup2.gif

I'm pleased with the signings-not with the squad-we still need two or three key positions filled.
mortonjag 2008-08-06 16:53:45
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Aug 6 2008, 04:44 PM) [snapback]490359[/snapback]
cant beat a good old fashioned game of monopoly or poker

True, and talking of counting games, is little Puggs still trying to work out the cryptic clue I set him. Perhaps someone can help him! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-06 19:35:11
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Aug 6 2008, 06:25 PM) [snapback]490396[/snapback]
It really captures the character of the surrounding area as I am sure you will all agree.



I was thinking of the



HIVE


Full of infected 'B's
mortonjag 2008-08-06 19:41:52
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 6 2008, 10:48 AM) [snapback]490262[/snapback]
Just glad Fatima Whitbread has retired

Indeed-poor little Puggs would be drooling all over his hairy sporran!
mortonjag 2008-08-06 19:43:58
QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Aug 6 2008, 06:27 PM) [snapback]490397[/snapback]
They were back for a limited time only. Now they're back for good. smile.gif

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mortonjag 2008-08-06 19:52:30
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 6 2008, 07:02 PM) [snapback]490401[/snapback]
At which 'proper' university did Mortonjag develop his conceit and ignorance?
Is that a proper subject? ohmy.gif

Mortonjag has three degrees from a better one than you're about to attend SPARROT!

Now this word conceit:

con·ceit
–noun
1. an excessively favorable opinion of one's own ability, importance, wit, etc.

I'd say that describes our little SPARROT to a 'T'.


One does not normally 'develop' ignorance-it's usually there to be rectified as clearly is yours of examination technique. I'd happily have tutored you if you hadn't given the impression of invincibility!

Cheer up-we''ll maybe win this Saturday. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-06 19:58:38
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 6 2008, 07:19 PM) [snapback]490407[/snapback]
Keeping up with the daily Sudoku puzzles do me nicely.

I flatly refuse to start Sudoku for two reasons

1/ I'm brilliant with numbers


2/ I believe it's both addictive and non educational!

QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Aug 6 2008, 07:50 PM) [snapback]490429[/snapback]
Chanter?


Excellent-good guess, or worked it out?
mortonjag 2008-08-06 20:09:35
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 6 2008, 07:43 PM) [snapback]490423[/snapback]
I am rather disturbed that you're looking at / searching pictures of Naked Guys before women unsure.gif

Newt's just a bit bored with his harem full of bronzed beauties!
mortonjag 2008-08-06 20:13:55
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 6 2008, 07:54 PM) [snapback]490435[/snapback]
I heard the same as they've now agreed to call the Station.

LSD Central.
With a board underneath it saying....

Alight Here For Methadome.

Apparently there's a wee booth at the new station where you can buy your coke for the match.
mortonjag 2008-08-06 20:20:33
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Aug 6 2008, 08:10 PM) [snapback]490444[/snapback]
sorry but thats crap

we dont play 4-5-1 and we at least try to entertain (under Irons so far)

even brazil are big and strong these days

nothing wrong with it

I'd suggest that that's a somewhat contentious point-I was often entertained by Gowsa, Midge, and even Jamie (mainly when elsewhere!). I found Andy McLaren entertaining. Where are the entertainers in the current squad (I concede we have a couple of putative clowns)?

What I've seen so far this season would hardly set a neutral's pulse racing. I've been listening to the girns and groans about Walter Smith, and I believe Port Ton has a valid point.
mortonjag 2008-08-06 20:31:32
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Aug 6 2008, 08:13 PM) [snapback]490446[/snapback]
Only ever attended the University of Life. How high up the pecking order does that fare?

It is the only truly proper university, as some of the cheeky young brats on this pubic massage board would do well to acknowledge. There is NO substitute for experience allied to a willingness to learn from others.

The truth is that for a huge number of youngsters 'Uni' is just a bloody cop out for one or another reason. How the hell does any 17 year old know what he wants to be 'when he grows up'?

If I could do it all again, I wouldn't touch a University with a bloody bargepole-I mean that MOST sincerely, and I know many graduates of my generation who secretly feel exactly the same way.

SO-when Mortonjag talks about PROPER Universities, it's got f*ck all to do with Mortonjag being arrogant-it's a swipe at the jumped up arrogance of semi intelligent young prats who think they're more important than Joe Public because they attend/ed a 'University! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-06 20:35:57 I've never seen a ghostie, but Port-ton and Deego give me the 'Willies'.
mortonjag 2008-08-06 20:39:19 The Lavvybowl.
mortonjag 2008-08-06 20:49:19
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Aug 6 2008, 08:27 PM) [snapback]490461[/snapback]
Wakey Wakey Morton Jag

in all seriousness, I mean as a team... look at iron's formation for starters

there are very few real "entertainers" left in the modern game, even at the top level

Wakey's worth the money-I give you that, and if you're into comedy so is Superkev-the farce freaks would do well to better a look at Jimbo trying to be a left winger. As for the rest-there's not an entertainer among them (though Big Stu's antics have frequently brought tears to my eyes).

OK-I'm piss takin' a little, but PLEASE don't tell me we're entertaining!
mortonjag 2008-08-06 20:51:52 The Barfanon.
mortonjag 2008-08-06 21:00:51
QUOTE(centralTON @ Aug 6 2008, 08:41 PM) [snapback]490473[/snapback]
You can keep your "proper or improper" uni's.

Advanced City and Guilds in Plumbing at Falkirk Tech an' there's Feck all wrong wi' me, ah think? laugh.gif

I can't stand folk who boast about their City and Guilds qualifications. They couldn't even make it into some jumped up Tech masquerading as a 'University'.

Oh and effin Plumbers-every plumber I've ever met was as bent as a warped lavvy pan, and their hands always smell of keech.
mortonjag 2008-08-06 21:03:15
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Aug 6 2008, 05:42 PM) [snapback]490383[/snapback]
mortonjag backing down again laugh.gif

WTF are YOU wittering about? blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-06 21:06:42
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Aug 6 2008, 09:02 PM) [snapback]490504[/snapback]
Isn't that a contradiction?

I am sorry but I disagree again

I do not think Walter Smith sends them out with the mindset of entertaining - he sends them out to win ugly (which even Barry Ferguson admitted about Jan last season as their goal)

David Irons sends the guys out with fire in their bellies

That'll explain a couple of the midrift bulges!
mortonjag 2008-08-06 21:11:00
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 6 2008, 09:04 PM) [snapback]490507[/snapback]
Oh and FYI...I had the grades to go to a 'proper' university. As long as we are assuming you mean Glasgow here smile.gif

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Is there no end to your boastfulness young man?
You'd NEVER have got into a proper University to study a proper discipline-good gracious, you've confessed yourself that you are semi-literate! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-06 22:23:04
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Aug 6 2008, 09:21 PM) [snapback]490519[/snapback]
Give it a rest MJ. Although it may not be a 'proper' university it is still a great accomplishment. A difficult one at that. So congrats puggsy.


Give WHAT a rest? rolleyes.gif
QUOTE(centralTON @ Aug 6 2008, 09:27 PM) [snapback]490526[/snapback]
Hey you, I meant that as a wee joke....hence the laugh.gif

Keech............ma arse.

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QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 6 2008, 09:41 PM) [snapback]490542[/snapback]
I had the grades chief wink.gif I chose Caley. I basically didn't go to Glasgow because of the snobbery that seems to surround it. The people I met in my 4 years at the Tech are now some of my best friends and at the end I am happy enough to come out with that, although the degree is a nice bonus



Edit - Being able to spell and use correct grammar aren't as important it seems these days...word processors are the way forward sir biggrin.gif

Defensive to the last! laugh.gif

QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 6 2008, 09:51 PM) [snapback]490565[/snapback]
Again you make the error of presenting your opinion as fact.
Examination technique: 7 Higher A's out of 7 Highers leads me to think you're being somewhat facetious there Mr Jag. laugh.gif
Although I wouldn't go to Caley for my chosen course, I see no reason why it isn't fit and proper for accountancy, or does it require snobbery worthy of a grammar school in order to qualify? rolleyes.gif

What happened this time young man-7 A Highers smacks of swattery-nothing more. In my experience those types generally did relatively poorly when they were forced to think!

QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 6 2008, 10:12 PM) [snapback]490590[/snapback]
Caley has a very respected business school. And at the end of the day accountancy - for the most part - is prescribed by following company law and rules set by the accounting bodies so you can really only get taught the same things at the institutions as they follow the professional bodies.

In fact for CIPFA Caley gets more professional exam exemptions than both Glasgow and Strathclyde smile.gif

I have never suggested that 'Caley' isn't good at some things, though everybody knows it's not a proper University! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-06 22:30:38
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Aug 6 2008, 09:14 PM) [snapback]490516[/snapback]
Would rather play ugly and win than play entertainingly and lose. This season is about keeping status in the first division. Other than that it will be a few years if not next year before we can dream of entertaining football.

I would hate to see us playing attractive football and being relegated. If playing ugly gets us to the SPL I'm up for that, but quite simply it won't, and I'd rather end up 'safe' playing entertaining football than third top playing 'grind it out' AND we'd probably bring in more cash.
mortonjag 2008-08-06 22:35:47

QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 6 2008, 09:45 PM) [snapback]490550[/snapback]
I think we have enough defensive cover now and wouldn't pursue either Reid or Smith.

We have no full backs.

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 6 2008, 09:47 PM) [snapback]490556[/snapback]
To be honest, I'm happy with the squad we have just now. If we can get rid of the trio mentioned, I would like to see a wide player brought in to give competition to Finlayson and McAllister.

I wish we'd get shot of those two for whatever cash we can rake in. They are no longer required in midfield, and they're NOT wingers.

Last night against very poor opposition indeed, Jimbo proved that the price tag some seem to place on him is utterly ludicrous.
mortonjag 2008-08-06 22:38:54 Why is it always black or white with 75% of posters. I'd happily have kept young Graham at Scapa-he's a damned sight better than some think.
mortonjag 2008-08-06 22:45:02
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 6 2008, 10:06 PM) [snapback]490581[/snapback]
Yes, but not Jill Dando, beyond resonable doubt, under appeal.
I'm not saying he'd be a drinking buddy or anything but there is at least a major degree of dubiety over the original verdict, which has shown itself in the appeal.
Under the Scottish system it would surely have been a 'Not Proven@ - there are cases that need decisive evidence to be solved and this trial did not clearly have it: the prosecution fudged their case.

Well he wouldn't would he-you're too young to go drinking, and despite those wonderful 'A' highers, you clearly have failed to grasp the use of the singular verb after a singular noun!
mortonjag 2008-08-06 22:47:41
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Aug 6 2008, 09:19 PM) [snapback]490517[/snapback]
You may have something there...I've woken up once or twice with my bellend firmly cemented to my scants! Surely investing £100,000?

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It's probably already been patented by some w*nker!
mortonjag 2008-08-06 22:51:45
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Aug 6 2008, 10:45 PM) [snapback]490622[/snapback]
Me and my mate and the two lassies we were seeing at the time set up the Ouija board one night.We were about 17 and had had a couple of cans before we started.A question or two was asked and then the glass started moving.Now my mate was a bit of a wind-up so I assumed it was him which he denied and took his finger off the glass and it was still moving.So now I knew one of the lassies was at it cos it wisnae me!So I took my finger off to expose them as the pranksters and the glass kept moving....only now I noticed it was actually floating about 1/4 of an inch above the board.When I pointed this out the lassies pulled their fingers off pronto!And the glass kept moving....I was there!

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.....and kept moving and filled itself full of more lager? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-06 22:57:39
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 6 2008, 10:39 PM) [snapback]490611[/snapback]
We don't need full backs if we stick to a 3-5-2: its an oversight but it is an acceptable one.
Walker, McGuffie or Shimmin are capable of slotting into those roles if needed.
We need at least one wide player; not a winger as such as it wouldn't be their role but certainly could do with more quality and competition in that area.

Not like you to make the mistake of presenting a 17 year old opinion as 'fact' sonny boy!

If compromise is inevitable-fine. It need not have been-the squad is still unbalanced in my extremely humble arse licking and grovelling opinion, if I may be permitted so to suggest! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-07 08:27:22
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Aug 6 2008, 04:20 PM) [snapback]490347[/snapback]
Referees are s***e. Dont know how many good games were ruined by incompetant fools such as McCurry.



Not according to Gordon Smith


"I think they realise, that, if the money goes up, the fans will be expecting perfection. That's not always going to be the case, but you hope your top referees can do it. I think the refereeing standards are very good. There will always be mistakes, but you just have to deal with that."



Yes, we KNOW Mr Smith, and your best of the very best is none other than the famous cheat and liar-CRAIG THOMSON.

Money certainly talks Mr. Smith-looks like your £160,000 p.a. salary has been persuasive! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-07 08:32:53
QUOTE(ton1901 @ Aug 6 2008, 11:04 PM) [snapback]490651[/snapback]
gretna got promoted to the spl through ugly football. something irons was apart of and knows how it was done. i think asking of entertaining winning football of him is to much but.
hamilton werent much better to watch last year with their 4-5-1. i think the key to this league is just to be hard to beat and scrap through games and i think thats the way it mite be this seaason for us.

Did they indeed-and how many times did you watch them that season. Any time they played us they were pretty direct and attacking.
mortonjag 2008-08-07 08:43:13 It's now several weeks since the Trust's letter was purportedly received by Mr Donald. There hasn't been a whisper about it since and Mortonjag has been very patient. Perhaps the Trust members have all received individual replies which are proudly framed with pride of place on their mantelpieces.

More probably Alistair's 'Out of the Country' again, though I got a little smile from him at the Midden game.

Maybe he's one of those ultra cautious men who takes for ever to reach decisions, and always checks three times that the door on his semi's locked, before driving off to Lidl's in the Smart Car. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-07 08:51:46
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 6 2008, 11:00 PM) [snapback]490645[/snapback]
Only suggest it as your opinion, rather than portraying it as fact.
You may continue. blush.gif

let's BOTH do it then! blink.gif



QUOTE(JonaTon @ Aug 6 2008, 11:42 PM) [snapback]490688[/snapback]
I'd say that Jim is a winger. He is always running at people and skipping past them. If he were played on the right he'd also be able to get to the byline and get crosses in using his stronger foot rather than cut inside or try to cross with his much weaker left foot.

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Jim is arguably the WORST left winger I've ever seen at Cappielow. I agree he MIGHT make a successful right winger, and am mystified as to why successive managers haven't tried him there. He was crap on Tuesday.

Finlayson is now completely redundant IMO.

QUOTE(El gofer @ Aug 7 2008, 12:35 AM) [snapback]490717[/snapback]
MJ, do you not think that we are playing with quite a bit of width at the moment?
Playing 3-4-3, we have jim and kev aswell as russell and newby who seemed to operated off wake on saturday.
Mores the point we played with 3 forwards, the two aforementioned played the channels which is something akin to the oldfashioned inside forward.
If the job of a winger is to supply crosses by getting round the back I think the formation allows for this.

I wasnt there last night but assume it was Mcguffie wide midfield. In that case he would allow the inside left to operate the flank.
I think we have options, but would prefer us to sign Reid as he offers us cover at least in the wingback position.

When many teams play 4-4-2, they do so with wide mids playing narrow and an advanced centre mid.

I am just trying to point out that wingers is something that Irons is prob/poss aware that he is not buying due to the formations he has us set up to play.

I think it's ironic that Newby and Russell have to double as our wingers (and they have some success in that respect), when we could get shot of the two I mentioned, get two proper wingers, and hey presto-we'd be dropping crosses on three receptive nappers all day long! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-07 08:56:48
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Aug 7 2008, 12:24 AM) [snapback]490708[/snapback]
I'm not so sure he is which is why I'll keep shouting to get him back!

Celtic played him in all their pre-season games last season too, no doubt with the intention of flogging him. ph34r.gif

You'd like to birch Spoonsy's big pink bum! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-07 09:01:43
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 6 2008, 10:49 PM) [snapback]490628[/snapback]
Now if I was being picky I'd point to your failure to space your dashes adequately: a basic error not worthy of a supposed professional.
I wouldn't do that though, would I?

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In future I'll ensure my dashes IS spaced properly son!
mortonjag 2008-08-07 09:13:17
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 6 2008, 10:45 PM) [snapback]490620[/snapback]
'Swattery' indeed: that's another 2 this year and the other grades will be subject to appeal.
In trying to portray those results as some kind of epic failure I'm afraid you, yourself, have failed.

In attempting to second guess my intention son YOU prove you're very wet behind the ears. You have done well-there is no question about that. I am merely quoting my experience when I tell you that University is a great 'leveller'. Pupils who have been spoonfed by indulgent teachers suddenly become students who have to do much thinking for themselves, and I can state categorically that success in Highers and Sixth Year studies often bears no relation to subsequent progress. That is ALL.

Well, almost all! I'd like to add that in my day, when we had PROPER education, appeals were unheard of. We could 'take it on the chin' unlike modern namby pamby greetin' faces who can't cut exam pressure! smile.gif

QUOTE(El gofer @ Aug 7 2008, 12:53 AM) [snapback]490723[/snapback]
Happily admit that I graduated from the tech.

4 happiest years of my life. I had a great time.

I take from it the experiences and the people that I met that formed opinions.

One is my bestest fwend who goes to scappa with me.

I keep in contact with a few others, one a had a blazing argument about politics religion and football with the last time I was out for a beer with him.... we just laughed at the end of it.

Nowadays, degrees are a means of getting certain jobs, hence the number of unis or techs. I reckon if the education act had been brought in prior to the one in the early 40s I reckon there woudv been more unis earlier.

I dont think there is the same prestige attached to unis like glasgow anymore as a result of the quality of courses that other places are providng.



I agree about the prestige thing-if Pishley Uni started a new Medical Faculty this year I'd advise all budding Docs to go there, if only for the quality of the local people. happy.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-07 09:18:27
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 7 2008, 12:35 AM) [snapback]490715[/snapback]
although the chanter is used for playing the melody, not for droning smartass.gif

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Yes, Yes Alistair, and the melodic charmer loses two points for droning! Did I miss something? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-07 09:25:58
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Aug 6 2008, 11:21 PM) [snapback]490667[/snapback]
Well there's no shortage of test candidates on here!

True!

On the basis that you 'empty yer baws' after every w**k (not physiologically true, but serves this purpose), I'm wondering which of our hallowed posters would produce the biggest semen splurge in a 'count the tadpole' competition.


If boasting's anything to go on we have many pretenders, and I'll start off by nominating Bob the Masturbater...erstwhile LargsTON!
mortonjag 2008-08-07 09:28:23
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 6 2008, 11:41 PM) [snapback]490686[/snapback]
So does that make them PorterDeegeists blush.gif

Nope-just a pair of greedy wee rent boys.
mortonjag 2008-08-07 09:50:38
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 7 2008, 09:26 AM) [snapback]490762[/snapback]
I think we have as many good players at the club as we have had for a long time. Whether that makes it the best squad we have had is another question. Personally, I think the squad is a bit unbalanced as

1) We have a preponderance of defenders, most of them good defenders. We have Weatherson Shimmin McManus Greacen Harding and Walker plus maybe McGregor all looking for one of three slots. McGuffie can also play well at the back.

2) We have a decent midfield but are maybe a bit lacking in cover for injuries etc. If we are going for a 3-4-3 lineup we have Paartalu Masterton McGuffie Finlayson McAllister and Jenkins when fit. With Jenkins presently out, one more injury and we are down to the bare bones. We also I suppose have McAnespie who could be our wide left player if Irons can get him to knuckle down. I'm less worried about creativity than others on here as we have created plenty of chances in all our pre season and competitive games so far. We need to worry more about the forwards' conversion rates.

3) We have no cover at all for our front three. Having watched Weatherson have a go up front in the second half at Stranraer, he's no longer the answer there (if he ever was?) although he was MoM as a defender for the first half in that game. Wake's out on Saturday and thats a problem - we have no target/hold up man. We also know that Newby might be a bit injury prone - he only managed 15 games for Morecambe last season. Having said that, Russell Wake and Newby are the most dangerous forwards we've had for ages and if they stay fit I can see them getting 35/40 goals between them.

So, for me, we have the best players we've had for a while but a squad thats unfinished. Its light in numbers in certain areas and over supplied in others. For this reason, I would not be unhappy not to sign Reid and Smith and if we are getting one more player, would prefer another striker.

I disagree fundamentally on the midfield/goalscorer issue. We have PLENTY of cover in midfield (you omitted Walker for example, and Shimmin can play there too).

It's just common sense that among them Newby, Russell, Spoonsy, and Wakey will get plenty of goals IF the supply's there. We need a cultured playmaker in midfield (Jenkins may serve as that but he's never a Gowsa) and we desperately need guys who can consistently put decent crosses over. Weatherson will come good again-mark my words.
mortonjag 2008-08-07 10:37:11
QUOTE(irvineTON @ Aug 7 2008, 09:58 AM) [snapback]490772[/snapback]
Jim McAllister is no where near the worst left winger u have ever seen at Cappielow. Thats just a silly statement!!

Newby & Russell do not double as wingers, they make Forward runs out wide to create space. There is a difference.

When would u ever be satisfied MJ? U see fault with just about everything to do with Morton!! ohmy.gif sad.gif

I am talking about LEFT WINGERS! Jimbo is a dreadful left winger who can't beat his man to get to the corner flag, or on the rare occasions he does, can't use his left (for standing on) foot to get a cross over. He's a young lad who's showed lots of promise and has IMO been wasted at Cappielow.

Newby and Russell consistently drift out to the wings -normally Russell goes right and Newby left-and they DO put over decent crosses-CLEARLY doubling as wingers in that respect. If your going to be so bloody scientific about your definition of a winger, your comments about Jimbo are -shall we say-just a silly statement.

Finally, I see fault with a lot at Morton, and I also see some good things-David Irons has made a huge difference, for example.

When will I ever be satisfied? Probably never! Is that some kind of mortal sin? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-07 11:11:03
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Aug 7 2008, 10:40 AM) [snapback]490790[/snapback]
guys we shouldn't care if newby and russell double as a pseudo wingers, as long as we keep getting results

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mortonjag 2008-08-07 11:15:11
QUOTE(Alibi @ Aug 7 2008, 09:49 AM) [snapback]490766[/snapback]
"Pittodrie" means "Hill of Dung". Pity Aberdeen thought of it first...

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The Maggotry.
mortonjag 2008-08-07 11:19:26
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 7 2008, 09:22 AM) [snapback]490758[/snapback]
Oh and I don't know or care smile.gif

How many letters?
mortonjag 2008-08-07 11:22:07
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Aug 6 2008, 11:52 PM) [snapback]490692[/snapback]
I wonder if Mortonjag will post any of his anti-chair rants in the same format...pure kwality indeed!

What are you gibbering about? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-07 11:27:50
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Aug 6 2008, 11:24 PM) [snapback]490670[/snapback]
Anyone tried and tested the following:

Start with an amount on a colour, if it comes up, place same amount on other colour, if it does not come up, double the stake on the original. If this comes up, go back to your original stake on the other colour, if not keep doubling up until it come in then back to original on other colour.
Have you made any money or is this frowned upon in casino's?

If you've enough cash and are willing to quit when you're up you can always walk away from the computer roulette with a profit.
mortonjag 2008-08-07 11:31:13
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Aug 7 2008, 10:25 AM) [snapback]490781[/snapback]
Anyone remember Cabana's ? Bring them back
Also Fry's Five Centre's blush.gif

I loved them both and does anybody remember Duncan's Orange Cream (like Fry's Creme)-bitter chocolate and tangy orange fondant filling. Duncans also made Creme Eggs for 3d when the Cadbury version was 6d. They came in two halves and were quite hard as distinct from the squishy Cadbury filling.
mortonjag 2008-08-07 11:42:55
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 7 2008, 09:24 AM) [snapback]490759[/snapback]
There is no University of Paisley huh.gif

Call it what you will-the Bell College bolt on if you like! ph34r.gif

QUOTE(leyTON @ Aug 7 2008, 10:37 AM) [snapback]490786[/snapback]
forgive my ignorance - why is VT called sparrot?
MJ - like puggs i had the grades to go to glasgow but chose strathclyde instead as i found it not only a better standard of lecturer(the English dept at glasgow were wired to the moon) but there were considerably less snobs. even though it did look like hogwarts
your right also puggs - the University of WEst of scotland goes strong, i walk past it everyday, and i also walk past signs for Reid Kerr College. Vintage soapdodger education

Sparrot (a cross between a sponge and a parrot)! laugh.gif


To be completely honest I wasn't aware of much 'snobbery' about Glasgow University! My younger son chose Strathclyde because it had a more forward looking Law School, while my daughter also chose Strathclyde for its excellent Business School. Strathclyde has had half a century to evolve into a pretty proper University but that can ONLY happen with time. Caley has SOME good faculties, but in general terms remains improper, as anybody who's 'in the know' will tell you! laugh.gif

QUOTE(Cowshed Chris @ Aug 7 2008, 10:45 AM) [snapback]490791[/snapback]
Why didn't you go, just out of interest? The standard of teaching of Accountancy at Glasgow and Strathclyde is regarded as far better than other universities in Scotland and that may give you an edge if there isn't much between you and somebody else going for the same job.



QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 7 2008, 10:55 AM) [snapback]490795[/snapback]
I just didn't really like the feel of the places. May sound like a cop out but I felt very comfortable at Caley and I am still glad I made that choice.

Cracking place that gets unfairly slagged by the 'proper' uni's smile.gif

As I stated already, it gets very fairly slagged as it's still miles behind proper Universities. It HAS developed two or three good faculties, and will undoubtedly improve.
mortonjag 2008-08-07 11:48:12
QUOTE(mccaff @ Aug 7 2008, 11:36 AM) [snapback]490815[/snapback]
i was thinking about the "lack of creativity" today and it hit me. whyy wud u need a creative midfield player if ur just going to launch the ball up to the big man up front. i think irons' plan is just to be hard to break down with 3 centre backs and 4 midfielders covering and then as soon as we get the ball, feed it high and forward for wake to win and russel and newby to get on the end of it.

Indeed, and what's plan B?
mortonjag 2008-08-07 11:50:42
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 7 2008, 11:42 AM) [snapback]490819[/snapback]
You don't like sitting down!?

How many letters?
mortonjag 2008-08-07 11:55:05
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Aug 7 2008, 11:35 AM) [snapback]490813[/snapback]
Now theres something I thought I would never read - Mortonjag sooks Dougies plooms...

Mr Rae's plooms make an excellent and good value sook. I once bought his liquorice allsorts which were of somewhat inferior quality and far too sugary. Fudgy Wudgys are good value for those who enjoy a little bit of fudge. I have sampled none of his other offerings.
mortonjag 2008-08-07 11:58:35
QUOTE(forza ton @ Aug 7 2008, 09:57 AM) [snapback]490771[/snapback]
ghosts are a pile of s***e. if i seen one i'd speak to a psychiatrist because there would obviously be something not right in my head.

Just go with a biscuit barrell over your tadger and he'll say you're f*ckin' crackers.
mortonjag 2008-08-07 12:01:54
QUOTE(mccaff @ Aug 7 2008, 11:51 AM) [snapback]490822[/snapback]
stevie masterton

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mortonjag 2008-08-07 12:57:52 If thats the attitude your taking, then we could probably ask you the same thing on half of your opinions. Il bet that a lot of the things you have a party line on, you would only have experienced through your google box ya tadger. Its not difficult to know what style of football a team plays without seeing them every week, just read papers, match reports, websites etc.[/quote]



How many tadgers are you speaking for?

It's not my 'attitude'- it's a legitimate question. Any time Gretna played us they certainly did not play ugly IMO!

Oh and explain your 'party line' comment if you can. I take plenty of criticism from brighter sparks than yourself for my outspoken opinions, and I certainly DON'T go with the flow as 75% of posters appear to do! smile.gif

I suspect your reply will again be abusive.
mortonjag 2008-08-07 13:09:03
QUOTE(El gofer @ Aug 7 2008, 12:10 PM) [snapback]490828[/snapback]
MJ I dont see the preoccupation with the term wingers.

Not many teams use them, I may be wrong.

My idea of wingers, the way I was brought up to play when I was a nipper was 433. Two wingers of a front 3.

Our formation is different to that. Jim and Kev play were they do as they have the engine to get up and down, something that both of them do well. They are not wingers in this formation. Playing 3 up means we play more balls into channels as irvineton alluded to.

I'm only interested in the wings being used to advantage, ESPECIALLY as we now have a potentially potent strike force.

This has not been done for ages, and the two 'wingers' (or whatever you choose to call your little steam engines) are now redundant, IMO, given our plentiful supply of strong midfielders.

I'm not saying they are worthless-if the squad was to be bigger I'd happily retain their services.

I'm also a bit fed up with the oft repeated nonsense that there are no 'wingers' in the modern game.
mortonjag 2008-08-07 13:15:09
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Aug 7 2008, 12:17 PM) [snapback]490831[/snapback]
I did Risk and Law at Undergraduate at Caley and the Uni is the only one in the UK that offers a degree in Risk. In all years there are prizes from major FTSE and other global brands. The Law School offers modules that would make law students more employable, I understand that the Glasgow School of Law (of where I am now a student) allows students from the 3 Glasgow Universities to swap modules to each Uni.

I agree that some of the degrees at Caley do raise eyebrows (Fashion Management and Interior Design) but I had a cracking time and still catch up with my lecturers and mates to this day.---plus Caley always had the hottest ladies!

Blondes?

QUOTE(El gofer @ Aug 7 2008, 12:23 PM) [snapback]490836[/snapback]
Oh yes LAS I concur with your last point. Glasgow was full of freaks!!!!

My big sis did the same course as you and started when it was the tech. It was an extremely difficult course to get into. She is doing alright for herself now from graduating from the tech.

So your still a student?!!

Not fancy working then eh???!!
Could you help me with managing the risk to my limbs when playing fives against LeyTON or even you?!!

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mortonjag 2008-08-07 13:18:27
QUOTE(bigstu22 @ Aug 7 2008, 12:29 PM) [snapback]490837[/snapback]
Starting price is actually lower than I paid direct from DVLA. I may be wrong, but I think if the plate is one that is of interest to others then it generally can sell on for considerably more than the original DVLA price. I'm not desperate to sell-if I don't get the £450 I'll just keep it.

Good point re Middlesborough and Milwall-I'd kind of rather it went to a 'ton supporter though-espeacially as it has the 'G' at the start for GMFC. But, hey, if I get a lot more from down south then I'm afraid sentiment goes out the window!!

The market is totally saturated with Mickey Mouse plates. Unless you've something almost unique, or just happen to strike it lucky (somebody fancies your number for whatever reason) it's a buyers game at the moment.
mortonjag 2008-08-07 13:22:28
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 7 2008, 12:55 PM) [snapback]490842[/snapback]
Wrong thread wink.gif

It seems quite cryptic.
mortonjag 2008-08-07 13:25:32
QUOTE(Alibi @ Aug 7 2008, 01:06 PM) [snapback]490849[/snapback]
They were called Treets, not Treats. I think originally they were just all-chocolate but later on they brought out peanut Treets as well.

Does anyone remember Fry's Five Boys - I thought it was a single flavour version of Five Centres, a bit like Fry's Chocolate Cream (and maybe a predecessor of it) which has pictures of 5 faces onthe wrapper with different expressions - this link takes you to an old advert for it although it was a bit more modern looking by the 50s and 60s.

http://www.advertisingantiques.co.uk/Defau...amp;ItemID=3837
Says it was just chocolate but I remember it as having a white cream filling - maybe my memory is playing tricks and I'm confusing it with Fry's Chocolate Cream.

'Five Boys' was just a chocolate bar with a different boy's face on each section-each face represented an emotion!
mortonjag 2008-08-07 13:29:01
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Aug 7 2008, 12:58 PM) [snapback]490845[/snapback]
The Sans Soap

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San Syringe!
mortonjag 2008-08-07 13:36:57
QUOTE(El gofer @ Aug 7 2008, 01:28 PM) [snapback]490861[/snapback]
Fair enough. I am not saying I dont like seeing wingers. I reckon a good wide player is one of the most entertaining parts of the game....... your word entertain there...it will never catch on.....

What I am saying is that I can see the merits in the formation Irons is deploying.

For what its worth I think 4-5-1 being utilised properly allows for wingers. It seems that no one told Uncle Watty though!!!

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I'm just old fashioned. Folk nowadays are obsessed with 'formations' and 'game plans'.

I like to enjoy my football-spoilt by the Hal Stewart era I guess, but when you have decent strikers, and a competent winger wide player wing back footballer gets past his man to the corner flag, everybody's on his toes, waiting for the decent cross and hopefully BINGO!

Much more attractive than Wakey being punted long ball after long ball!
mortonjag 2008-08-07 13:48:44
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 7 2008, 01:31 PM) [snapback]490864[/snapback]
clicky.

Maybe Eck and Nickerless should have a word with this guy.

He certainly appears to be a very savoury gentleman. We have many gentlemen in this neck of the woods who fit Councillor Kalashnikov's description, though most are happy with our local Universities.

Nice to see an S.N.P. cooncillor sending his daughter to Cambridge!!! Spurtle will be impressed.

I particularly liked this bit!

The family say they are being forced to sell their luxury home in Newton Mearns because they can't afford to pay the bills.
Mr Hanif rakes in thousands of pounds from dozens of flats he owns in Glasgow and overseas.



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mortonjag 2008-08-07 19:06:45
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 7 2008, 01:58 PM) [snapback]490888[/snapback]
So's yir face happy.gif

...is that an anagram?
mortonjag 2008-08-07 19:36:33
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 7 2008, 05:32 PM) [snapback]490991[/snapback]
Well we shall see when the brakdown of the results is found whether your accusation was correct or not, shall we?
Or will you just blindly guess when you clearly don't have a clue how the exam grade is determined?

Is this 'brakdown' thing a new technique to replace the markers, SPARROT?

You've had to appeal because you have not come up to the standard you and your teachers (note that word-NOT lecturers) expected of you.

Are YOU accusing the marker of doing a Craig Thomson?

Watch you don't trip over your petted lip if your appeal fails!

Why do you always accuse me of 'not having a clue', sonny boy? My bloody family is HEAVING with teachers-two of whom have been marking Highers papers for years.

I know all about what goes on at markers meetings-how the 'red line' is raised and lowered from one year to another for a variety of reasons (not always educational IMHO), and FULLY appreciate that good pupils (not students-NOTE) often 'blow it' under exam pressure. One of my brothers was Deputy Director of Education, and is now an Education Consultant at the Scottish Office.

I could go on my little chap! Suffice to say that making blind guesses on this pubic massage board is not Mortonjag's style. For one reason or another you blew it-don't fret-it happens to the best of us-even Lewis Hamilton.


Good luck with the appeal court. smile.gif

Oh, and better luck at University where you'll no longer be mollycoddled, or encouraged to believe you're something special! laugh.gif

Probably for the first time ever you will be forced to think completely independently. You will hopefully adapt well to the transformation from 'golden boy' to tadpole in the Pacific! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-07 19:49:04
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 7 2008, 02:04 PM) [snapback]490890[/snapback]
Another tribune of the people who doesn't trust the education dept of GCC to educate his weans and so gets a hoose in the mearns. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 7 2008, 02:10 PM) [snapback]490893[/snapback]
I wonder if Monsieur Trois Maisons dreams of matching his property empire? laugh.gif
Only kidding CHC, I'm sure you're a responsible, caring and sharing private landlord.

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QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 7 2008, 05:29 PM) [snapback]490988[/snapback]
The SNP do seem to be incautiously fond of enterprising types that are all for keeping Scotland 'Open for Business'. Just what kind of business I wonder.

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QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 7 2008, 05:36 PM) [snapback]490994[/snapback]
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Sarcasm, manners and decency indeed. And perhaps even you aren't too old to understand the English language. Scumbag parasite? I have called you no such thing.

In my experience Mr Edwards, you always put the truth in a genteel manner.

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 7 2008, 05:54 PM) [snapback]491005[/snapback]
The SNP are not at fault here. I see he has been suspended by the Party which was the correct thing to do.


Too late my friend-the damage has been done!
QUOTE(Alibi @ Aug 7 2008, 06:28 PM) [snapback]491019[/snapback]
If the story is true, he should be expelled from the SNP. Innocent until proved guilty of course, and I am aware that the press try hard to dig up dirt on anyone with SNP leanings, but this guy sounds like a liability who should be punted pronto. As I am sure will happen.


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QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 7 2008, 07:28 PM) [snapback]491044[/snapback]
Perhaps when Nicola Strurgeon fulfils her promise to visit the area in question and witness these appalling conditions first hand the Scottish Government and Glasgow City Council may be spurred into appropriate action.

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mortonjag 2008-08-07 19:54:04
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 7 2008, 05:34 PM) [snapback]490993[/snapback]
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I had a similar discussion with a colleague a few years ago who was convinced that in that particular week the lottery numbers would be low because the previous week they were all high. rolleyes.gif

Does your box in trying to convince people who can't understand basic logic that they're talking pish, doesn't it. smile.gif

Nope my friend-it happens to me regularly on this wee massage board-water off a duck's back! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-07 20:00:42
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 7 2008, 06:59 PM) [snapback]491035[/snapback]
yes, you missed having a second (less cryptic) definition in your clue tongue.gif

how about:

charmer loses two points for passing wind? (7)

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mortonjag 2008-08-07 20:34:48
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 7 2008, 07:43 PM) [snapback]491052[/snapback]
As it's Advanced Highers and not Highers, I'm afraid your entire (and rather tedious) speel has been rendered void.
No award.
You do, however, retain the right to appeal.
Although the teachers always did expect Mortonjag to fail...

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Dream on!
mortonjag 2008-08-07 21:19:08
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 7 2008, 09:10 PM) [snapback]491102[/snapback]
I put my opinions on here Mentaljag, that's all. Opinions don't always represent truth, and truth is seldom genteel (in my opinion). cool.gif

Mortonjag's opinions are genteel and always represent the truth-FACT! angel.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-07 21:34:21
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 7 2008, 08:12 PM) [snapback]491072[/snapback]
So, on the eve of The Olympic Games, does anyone really care? Is anyone interested in athletics, swimming, beach volleyball, etc?
And do we care about China? Do we care the games were given to them? Article in The Independent today about the country which is definitely worth reading.

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/comme...ers-887136.html

I've been losing a great deal of sleep over this year's Olympics. The Monkey was disqualified from the British banana peeling team on a technicality. He was desperate to visit China to see all the junkies.
mortonjag 2008-08-08 07:08:58
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Aug 7 2008, 09:54 PM) [snapback]491136[/snapback]
Like Stevenson, Graham needs to sort out his attitude. the big fella thought he should have been playing every week and went into a huff when DI/DC dropped him from the bench. Still, a spell down in the doldrums might help him realise what he's got at Cappielow. smile.gif

Is that correct Anus?

Why does Colin Stewart wear pinkish red boots and are they both size fourteen please?
mortonjag 2008-08-08 07:14:09
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Aug 7 2008, 10:31 PM) [snapback]491149[/snapback]
Mark MY words - he won't. dry.gif

Time will tell!
mortonjag 2008-08-08 07:19:31
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Aug 7 2008, 10:48 PM) [snapback]491152[/snapback]
The flanks are Mortons achillies heel at the moment.

McAlister can beat his man with ease but a winger should be hitting the byeline as often as possible, Jim does this even less that Kev.

Both tend to cut inside - McAlister due to being out of position and Finlayson cos he rarely beats his man on the outside.

We need better players in both positions - having Jim and Kev competing for the right sided slot and signing a competent left winger would be my next priority if I was DI.

That makes some sense to me.
mortonjag 2008-08-08 07:26:39
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Aug 7 2008, 11:07 PM) [snapback]491161[/snapback]
If Greacen had his toenail removed (as was said in Tele') then he'll need a painkilling shot before playing on Saturday, or he'll be in absolute agony if he gets stood on (which over 90 minutes is more than likely!).

Seems a bit much of a risk (injections have other effects beside killing the pain) when we have Walker, Weatherson, Shimmin and Harding all available.

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mortonjag 2008-08-08 07:41:30
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 7 2008, 11:22 PM) [snapback]491170[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

Is the "current" share offer open ended ?

If Donald has not bought, should not the other shareholders be privvy to that information.

At one stage it was reported that he would take up 40% of the issue.

If that has not happened, could it be regarded as misrepresentation ?

I'm led to believe that at the E.G.M. for the share launch, those present were informed that 'there were some other people who were interested in investing in the Club, but the 'Chairman' of the meeting was not at liberty to state whom they were. Golden Casket will be required to take up 200,000 of the shares to maintain its 75.1% of the club, but only if all the shares are taken up (this-to allow the Club to remain as a subsidiary of G.C.).

QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 7 2008, 11:51 PM) [snapback]491182[/snapback]
I've checked the mantlepiece , even checked under the dust and its all empty .

You are but an ORDINARY trust member! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-08 07:49:40
QUOTE(standman @ Jul 29 2008, 08:03 PM) [snapback]486247[/snapback]
When the website was relaunched last year I was hopeful of regular informative updates and a more professional service.

However I shouild have known better.

I would never check the website first before looking on here for news.

Surely this shouldn't be the case ?

How many hits per month more could Morton have if they kept their website up to date and made more effort ? Surely more hits means more revenue via advertising ?

Having had a look just there the following is pretty inexcusable :

1) The Chairman's page lastr updated in April.

2) Club News..the bare minimm match report i.e. the score and team lineups. They don't even have the attendance. Contrast this with the St Mirren website. As Midtons has stated there's nothing about the passing of a long standing member of the staff either.

3) The Manager's page. You can read his programme notes from March 1st.

Other websites have pre and post match comments, not just his programme notes from long ago.

4) The squad. Can you believe they don't have pics of Brian Wake and Iain Russell for example ? Not exactly new signings !

5) Fixtures. The scores for pre-season haven't been filled in.

Next Match : apparently they are still waiting on the fixtures !

This kind of stuff gives the impression of a slap dash operation.

Yet there's nothing tricky there to deal with at all.

I think that certain people fill in certain pages and everything else is forgotten.

Any views ?



If Fr. Rae thought the website could bring him more lovely munny he'd get it sorted.

He's stuck in a time warp.
mortonjag 2008-08-08 07:55:42
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 7 2008, 09:33 PM) [snapback]491122[/snapback]
fine piece of journalism. apparently the AK47 is 'deadly' laugh.gif
rather than to a proper university?

"Noor, a grade A student hoping to study medicine at Cambridge"

all those degrees and still it seems you have a problem with comprehension laugh.gif

Alistair, your postings are becoming bizarre again. Do you wish some counselling?

QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 7 2008, 11:42 PM) [snapback]491179[/snapback]
I don't think Cooncillor Kalishnikov would lay any claim to socialism. He might leave that to the philanthropist and parliamentary worthy Mr Mohammed Sarwar. biggrin.gif

Both gentlemen are IMHO amoral capitalists.
mortonjag 2008-08-08 08:08:11
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Aug 7 2008, 10:05 PM) [snapback]491142[/snapback]
I cry so safe ?
It's the best i could come up with. rolleyes.gif

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I 'F' COY ARSES! bag.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-08 08:11:57
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 8 2008, 05:55 AM) [snapback]491214[/snapback]
The hackneyed tartan tory oxymoron that is 'Independence in Europe' I believe. laugh.gif 'Most analysts believe'....... aye, sure. Can you define most please, and while you're at it, analyst ? Jeezo CHC, more and more you're sounding like a politician. I'm surprised, I'd credited you with more integrity. Would it be such a bad thing if Scotland didn't bother to apply for membership and remained outside the EU? I don't think so. Norway and Iceland seem to doing very nicely without such dubious benefits. This here analyst believes so anyway. biggrin.gif

Aye-we should bomb Brussells tout de suite.
mortonjag 2008-08-08 08:15:29
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 8 2008, 07:50 AM) [snapback]491227[/snapback]
She was at it again this morning on GMTV. Flashing her panties like a common hussy rolleyes.gif

And she has previous.......... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oeNO8nJR_w

Did you zoom straight in Spurtle? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-08 08:26:06 Prediction time again folks-this is going to be a VERY tough one IMO. I know we've strengthened, but on paper they should still be able to beat us.That's where the feel good factor needs to kick in. If the Cowshed once and for all forgets the past and gets behind the team FOR 90 MINUTES-NOT JUST WHEN WE SCORE, I reckon the boys can do it.

Anyway the Monkey predicts 2-1 (Weatherson/Greacen header) laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-08 08:29:45
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 8 2008, 08:17 AM) [snapback]491238[/snapback]
My personal belief is that an independent Scotland would fare better within the EU, but equally I'm sure it would prosper outside it as well.

Where did I say it would be a bad thing if we had to apply for membership anyway? huh.gif I was simply trying to answer Newts questions as suscinctly as I could. Perhaps you need new reading glasses?

The names of the 'most analysis' I was referring to escape me. I took it from an article on the subject I read some time ago, I think in the Observer, where the opinions of some former EU commissioners and consitutional 'analysts' were sought on this very subject. Incidently, as the UK in its current form would cease to exist the same question arises for England, Wales and Northern Ireland in the event of a break up.

With the exception of I think only one of the 'analysts' questioned, they were generally of the opinion that since all 'countries' of the UK are currently part of the EU, membership would be automatically granted to any 'country' that leaves the UK. If I remember correctly about 6 in total were questioned.

So, to answer your questions in detail, by 'analysts' I meant ex-EU commissioners and legal experts who specialise in EU laws. And by 'majority' I meant 5 out of 6.

Sorry you couldn't just take my word for it, I'll try to find the article if I find the time and post a link.

How can those Nostradami be trusted?
mortonjag 2008-08-08 09:45:41
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 8 2008, 08:41 AM) [snapback]491244[/snapback]
I know of no reply MJ.

Cheers Sean-though it's far from comforting that this man who has a 'lifelong passion' for Morton cannot promptly answer a polite enquiry from the Club's Supporters Trust.

If I was treated with such apparent contempt, I'd at least be pondering the possible reasons.

Could it be that he doesn't WANT to answer? Assuming he DID receive the correspondence, I'd suggest that to be the probable answer.

NOW

Given that the Club went to GREAT lengths to prove that he IS a Director, I am of the opinion that he has an OBLIGATION to shareholders, at least to respond to courteous questions.

If this ends up in another 'slag the Jag' fest-so be it.

Time for the mysterious Mr Donald to stop teasing us, and lay his cards on the table. At the end of the day he's just another bloody fan! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-08 10:01:09
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 8 2008, 09:05 AM) [snapback]491250[/snapback]
I had my two big toenails removed because they were badly ingrown. Getting the toenails removed was no issue, painless with a local anaesthetic but what was painful was the aftermath as in order to prevent the nail growing back, they liberally douse the nail bed with some sort of acid to kill it.

Me, I was about 6-8 weeks before I could get a pair of shoes on again!

I don't know if thats why Stewart had his toenail removed.

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mortonjag 2008-08-08 10:05:18
QUOTE(jpmil @ Aug 8 2008, 09:56 AM) [snapback]491273[/snapback]
Obviously young Mr Rae doesn't read this rag of a site or he would have made some effort to counter the criticism of his own site!

The Chairman will love you for that compliment! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-08 10:10:35 Some of the originals were really good. There was a local Tattie Merchant with POT 80
mortonjag 2008-08-08 10:17:42
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 8 2008, 09:43 AM) [snapback]491266[/snapback]
It does seem most odd, Rachmanite behaviour is OK wie the Essenpee. mad.gif

True, and once he'd disposed of that sprawling mansion in the Mearns (because he 'can't pay the bills' wacko.gif ), he could have become another of Bawheid's Holyrood suitors. Tumshie top will be fuming at him for getting caught! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-08 10:24:23
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Aug 8 2008, 09:25 AM) [snapback]491261[/snapback]
There were more than a few of us in the Mod/New Romantic days who weren't averse to slapping some on.

I know that as a Mod I had no probs with black eyeliner, mascara and depending on the look, blue eye shadow and peach blusher. Kind of chasing that "small faces/keith moon out of your skull look".

I'm comfortable with my sexuality and I've never been confused.

TonInDublin

How I wish I felt the same way!

QUOTE(midTONs @ Aug 8 2008, 10:09 AM) [snapback]491284[/snapback]
Make up is for shallow women and p00fters.

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mortonjag 2008-08-08 10:31:42
QUOTE(Rossco @ Aug 8 2008, 10:11 AM) [snapback]491286[/snapback]
Dont think the stick was aimed entirely at Andy plus at the same time Andy was already doing a very successful webcast.

Their should be somebody employed solely for the updating of the website.

Sure Morton could approach the college to do this that way are keeping it in the community.

If is someone on here for example doing it & they also have a job then if something happens at work & do a lot of overtime then we fall back into the trap of it not being update & that person comes in for criticism for not updating the site.

I like the design of the site but have no need to go on it as it is not updated enough.

I have criticised the website many times in the past more recently the lottery pages not being clear for people wanting to start playing the morton lottery online.

Someone contacted the club about it & the website was amended accordingly within a few hours.
At the risk of sounding like mortonjag maybe their is someone paid to update the site but the chairman has them doing other jobs such as putting a cat outfit on or cutting the crass or attending to players injuries.

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I think it's much more the case that Fr. Rae has no faith in new fangled gadgets like clocks, turnstyles, defibrillators and computers!
mortonjag 2008-08-08 11:16:53 I don't like camp men and I certainly don't like to see men wearing make up.

I don't disapprove of men fancying other men, loving other men, and shagging other men, so long as they acknowledge they are still bloody MEN!
mortonjag 2008-08-08 15:00:19
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Aug 8 2008, 12:10 PM) [snapback]491364[/snapback]
It's phenol they use, draw a hexagon (phenol ring), make sure it's aromatic and stick a hydroxyl group coming out of it (OH).

That's what I meant when I said it makes no sense for him to play on Saturday, before the "doctor" put a smiley...

Awful stuff, but it doesn't always work!

6-8 weeks? Ya wimp, I walked up the road from the doctor! laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-08-08 15:11:10
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 8 2008, 12:03 PM) [snapback]491356[/snapback]
So the clear-as-day fact that up to 40% of the examination came in the form of a dissertation rather than a paper in May has no impact on the system of marking?
Yes, that makes perfect sense to me, do try harder...

The clear as day fact young man is that you FAILED to achieve your set target and have to appeal.

Good gracious, if you can't cut it at this level, what chance do you have at a relatively proper University? blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-08 15:15:06
QUOTE(RankinBorn75 @ Aug 8 2008, 01:12 PM) [snapback]491393[/snapback]
Sean , always ask yourself is it hurting anyone , if the answer is NO then I guess it's up to them ..

MJ You dont like to see men wearing make up .. maybe they dont like to see you NOT waering make up should you start wearing it because of what they think ..

In saying that .. Makeup + Men = BUFTIES !!!!

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Deego and port-ton have insisted they like me just as God intended! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-08 17:51:41
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Aug 7 2008, 11:07 PM) [snapback]491161[/snapback]
If Greacen had his toenail removed (as was said in Tele') then he'll need a painkilling shot before playing on Saturday, or he'll be in absolute agony if he gets stood on (which over 90 minutes is more than likely!).

Seems a bit much of a risk (injections have other effects beside killing the pain) when we have Walker, Weatherson, Shimmin and Harding all available.

I can't find this anywhere on the Tilly's web site!

I'm rather amused at the speculations of our resident medical staff!

Toenails are removed for differing reasons, and the nail bed is not always ablated either chemically or mechanically. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-08 18:00:38
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 8 2008, 03:20 PM) [snapback]491441[/snapback]
No target was strictly set - I'd like to compare with someone else who passed the exam but I'm afraid they're not available, for clear and obvious reasons. blush.gif
Mega-FAIL.

I see you're attempting to retreat into your schoolboy microcosm for support, child.

You 'f*cked up' or you wouldn't be appealing-either that or you belong to the 'everything for nothing' culture-possibly both!!!

Why can't you take it on your smooth little chin like a big boy should? laugh.gif

mortonjag 2008-08-08 18:11:59 I had a good friend who was a mason, and also a Personnel Officer (in the days when job titles were less confusing) He lived and worked in good old proddy Erdry.

We used to partake of fluids at the Masonic Club-just up from Broomfield Park- where prices were very low, and all the guys seemed 'good eggs'.

I had frequently arguments with him about religious tolerance-fraid he saw them calf licks as something of a lesser species-but he had some good points too!

I went to a dinner dance with that lot. At the end (I was a wee bit tipsy) I refused on principle to stand up for the 'National Anthem'. My friend literally dragged me to my feet as others around were looking at me in a somewhat menacing way.

I remained friendly with him until time and geography ultimately separated us, but I NEVER went back to a Masonic function of any kind. happy.gif

mortonjag 2008-08-08 18:19:44
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 8 2008, 03:31 PM) [snapback]491453[/snapback]
What, naked? unsure.gif

Almost

QUOTE(Deego @ Aug 8 2008, 05:52 PM) [snapback]491514[/snapback]
Obviously.

You forgot about my magic token! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-08 18:21:25 A luke warm Stranraer pie and no bloody Bovril! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-08 18:24:40
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 8 2008, 03:29 PM) [snapback]491451[/snapback]
I don't hate her ! I just said you can see her panties and she is acting like a hussy blink.gif

Anyway, don't want to seem pedantic, but is it not spelt Misogyny....?? rolleyes.gif

Dr Bam has spelled 'it' correctly Spurtle.

BTW what colour were the said scants and were there any stains or bulges?
mortonjag 2008-08-08 18:29:32 No more pictures of jobbies coming out.

No more boasts of bizarre sexual exploits.

No more questions for the agony auntie.

Well here's a point for discussion!

If you were offered your hole by an absolutely cracking fourteen year old and KNEW you'd get off with it, would you willingly 'join' the sex offenders list.

For the time being I remain non-committal! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-08 18:36:02
QUOTE(Deego @ Aug 8 2008, 05:54 PM) [snapback]491516[/snapback]
Hilarious.

Indeed-Anus is the soul of wit! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-08 18:46:16
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 8 2008, 06:41 PM) [snapback]491533[/snapback]
1-1. Russell will get the goal for us.

Not 'can't hit a barn door/always offside Russell surely? blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-08 18:48:55
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 8 2008, 06:47 PM) [snapback]491536[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED
mortonjag 2008-08-08 18:55:44 Credit where due!


From GMFC:



Co-operative Insurance Cup
2nd Draw

The draw for the 2nd round of this season's Co-operative Insurance Cup will be made on Monday 11th August 2008 at 2pm
mortonjag 2008-08-08 19:07:28
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 8 2008, 07:03 PM) [snapback]491548[/snapback]
why? bouncy.gif

Because-Alistair! bag.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-08 19:09:11
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 8 2008, 06:53 PM) [snapback]491540[/snapback]
I'M A COMIN'!

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mortonjag 2008-08-08 19:10:58 Davie Irons and Derek Collins were born in the same place!
mortonjag 2008-08-08 20:10:01
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 8 2008, 07:07 PM) [snapback]491551[/snapback]
mortonjag does not seem to know eek.gif

Mortonjag knows all Mortonjag needs to know Alistair-Mortonjag has many contacts.Don't you need a jobby or something? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-08 20:11:38
QUOTE(Deego @ Aug 8 2008, 07:15 PM) [snapback]491566[/snapback]
Cool.

Wee clue-unlike Donkey Dave-NOT a stable!
mortonjag 2008-08-08 20:15:48
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 8 2008, 07:18 PM) [snapback]491572[/snapback]
complete sense requires a different font laugh.gif

VERY TRUE ALISTAIR!
mortonjag 2008-08-08 20:17:40
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 8 2008, 07:25 PM) [snapback]491582[/snapback]
Yes. Why? blink.gif

I was just checking!
mortonjag 2008-08-08 20:24:54
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Aug 8 2008, 08:15 PM) [snapback]491604[/snapback]
I don't think it's wrong because the only person it concerns is the person wearing it, and they have the right to dress and 'doll up' as they wish.

It's not for me but I think it's narrow-minded to say it's not acceptable.

If I see a man wearing make up I automatically question his sexuality/sanity.

As I said earlier, I have no objection to homosexual men but I hate effin fairies!
mortonjag 2008-08-08 20:29:38
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 8 2008, 07:21 PM) [snapback]491574[/snapback]
I have a shovel.
I have an axe.
I have a wheelbarrow.
I don't really need anything more to be honest.


A mousetrap?
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 8 2008, 07:32 PM) [snapback]491589[/snapback]
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Dapper Dan the Teacher man.

I knew that wouldn't last long in 'Shelter'.
mortonjag 2008-08-08 20:33:45
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 8 2008, 07:30 PM) [snapback]491586[/snapback]
White scants MJ. Perhaps some perve caught them on camera for Youtube bouncy.gif

Cotton, linen, woollen, satin, lacy, frilly-erm---gussetless? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-08 20:39:11
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 8 2008, 08:35 PM) [snapback]491617[/snapback]
Don't know, I only seen them for about 0.0025 of a second blink.gif

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......and turned away in disgust I presume!

Now had that been Sir Cliff flashing his bronzed bangle! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-08 20:52:17
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Aug 8 2008, 08:49 PM) [snapback]491626[/snapback]
Alister Donalds overseas hide away ???

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There is no Maternity Hospital on Gruinard!
mortonjag 2008-08-08 21:02:22
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 8 2008, 08:56 PM) [snapback]491632[/snapback]
what a strange response.

newton wanted to know if the share issue was open-ended.

answer came there none.

Newt and I have more than one method of liaison Alistair-now are you going for that keech or not? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-08 21:04:51
QUOTE(Kaney @ Aug 8 2008, 08:57 PM) [snapback]491634[/snapback]
Glesca toon?

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QUOTE(stuart @ Aug 8 2008, 09:00 PM) [snapback]491636[/snapback]
Bellshill rings a bell from the days that I used to care about things like that.

Nope-I used to wonder why so many famous footballers were born in Bellshill until I discovered that Bellshill maternity covered almost the whole of Lanarkshire at one time!
mortonjag 2008-08-08 21:09:28
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 8 2008, 09:03 PM) [snapback]491640[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Stop teasing me MJ rolleyes.gif

Did I take a rise out of you by mentioning 'Bachelor Boy'? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-08 21:12:58
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 8 2008, 08:59 PM) [snapback]491635[/snapback]
but not that one laugh.gif

The font of


KNOWLEDGE?
mortonjag 2008-08-08 21:15:23
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 8 2008, 09:06 PM) [snapback]491642[/snapback]
Instead of playing 5 across the midfeild. McAllister will play a more central forward role just behind the strikers

I'd have him on the bench where he can do least damage! angel.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-08 21:38:41
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Aug 8 2008, 09:26 PM) [snapback]491657[/snapback]
Lanark

Nope!
mortonjag 2008-08-08 21:41:00
QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 8 2008, 09:31 PM) [snapback]491660[/snapback]
Smith and Reid anyone?

We need MUNNY first!
mortonjag 2008-08-08 21:44:37 My kids loved Curly Wurlies.
mortonjag 2008-08-08 21:46:22
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 8 2008, 09:35 PM) [snapback]491662[/snapback]
Fains of Mintry pipe band, very sh1te I might add too!

Apparently Strathclyde Police pipe band were meant to be doing it at first but were pulled out due to the political climate.

...or something.

That'll be a professional opinion I'd imagine! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-08 21:48:37
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Aug 8 2008, 09:37 PM) [snapback]491663[/snapback]
I suppose just about anything is acceptable these days, however if my lad walked in the house with makeup on I would be inclined to laugh loudly while booting his deviant homo arse oot the windae.

I hope that didn't come across as too reactionary unsure.gif

If I had a pouffe son and he came in wearing make up, I'd be upset too! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-08 21:53:45
QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 8 2008, 09:43 PM) [snapback]491668[/snapback]
Get your wallet out then!

You sure have some cheek-effin blackmailing me and saying things like that is surely the arsehole of effrontery.
mortonjag 2008-08-08 21:55:38
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Aug 8 2008, 09:50 PM) [snapback]491678[/snapback]
Ok, erm, Edinburger ?, Motherwell ?, Dumfries ?

Does it matter rolleyes.gif

To them-I'd guess-'Aye'!
mortonjag 2008-08-08 21:58:02
QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 8 2008, 09:55 PM) [snapback]491686[/snapback]
I know you are but what am i?

You are my port-ton
My only port-ton
You make me happy
That special way
You give this old soul
A happy arsehole
Please don't take my port-ton away.
mortonjag 2008-08-08 22:02:37
QUOTE(McInally`s Monkey @ Aug 8 2008, 09:58 PM) [snapback]491689[/snapback]
I remember reading it in the tele too but haven't spotted it on the website. Must have been wednesday's paper and pretty sure it was a quote by either DI or DC

TY!

You see I was wondering which toe of which foot and for what reason the nail was removed in order that I could offer a proper prognosis, rather than have our good posters confused by the speculation of wannabe quacks! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-08 22:07:32
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Aug 8 2008, 09:54 PM) [snapback]491683[/snapback]
I'd punch his cnut in

Make up Gibby-NOT plastic surgery!
mortonjag 2008-08-08 22:09:33
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Aug 8 2008, 09:31 PM) [snapback]491659[/snapback]
Nope,
Over sexed bunch of ........ on here ph34r.gif

Obviously all outside the Guide Hall at the moment!
mortonjag 2008-08-08 22:22:20
QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 8 2008, 10:10 PM) [snapback]491696[/snapback]
laugh.gif

Your grandkids must be sooo proud of you.

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There's another one being cooked at the moment-I DO so much hope it's another little boy! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-08 22:29:05
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 8 2008, 10:13 PM) [snapback]491698[/snapback]
Has MJ seen my 14yr old and now wants off with her unsure.gif
In answer to your question I doubt any father of a daughter would say 'Aye'

Is Fing or the Monkey female unsure.gif

They are both male-they kiss each other goodnight and always add 'but we're not pouffes'.

I remain to be convinced! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-08 22:33:32
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 8 2008, 10:30 PM) [snapback]491707[/snapback]
Semi-professional actually happy.gif
She does aye, well not as much now as she works Saturdays but hopefully will play Cowal.

That'll be semi-amateur, I assume! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-09 07:57:09
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Aug 8 2008, 11:27 PM) [snapback]491753[/snapback]
Check the last paragraph and link in this post: http://greenockmortonfc.blogspot.com/2008/...ct-details.html

TY!

Should I believe the Tilly or this?


If Greacen had his toenail removed (as was said in Tele') then he'll need a painkilling shot before playing on Saturday, or he'll be in absolute agony if he gets stood on (which over 90 minutes is more than likely!).

Seems a bit much of a risk (injections have other effects beside killing the pain) when we have Walker, Weatherson, Shimmin and Harding all available.


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mortonjag 2008-08-09 08:07:49
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Aug 8 2008, 11:36 PM) [snapback]491756[/snapback]
They were both born in Glasgow so I'd guess at the old Rottenrow Maternity Hospital?

You're doing better than me-I just happened to notice they had both been born in Glasgow which surprised me as I always believed DI was born and bred in Dumfries!

Iain Russell's place of birth seems a bit of a mystery.
mortonjag 2008-08-09 08:16:10
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 9 2008, 08:00 AM) [snapback]491836[/snapback]
could someone decode the code ?!

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Indeed Newt-it's chubby little Smegma trying to wind Mortonjag up. If you require the full minutes of the E.G.M just let me know, and B.T.W. Mr Donald has been a designated Director of the club for almost two weeks. I got that from exactly the same source as I used prior to my exchanging p.m.'s with Greacen 2000, and prior to 'his' revelation during the long running AD thread! laugh.gif

As I stated previously, Mortonjag has many contacts-but you knew that already! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-09 08:34:19
QUOTE(centralTON @ Aug 9 2008, 01:21 AM) [snapback]491806[/snapback]
Viking, good luck with whatever you aspire to, regardless of the "Uni", I hate MJ's policy. I have met you and found you to be a decent bloke, hope you found me the same way. wink.gif

Maybe you should choose another insurer Lavvy Man! laugh.gif


There again, you could perhaps explain exactly WHAT you hate.

I can't abide 'SPARROTS' (sponge/parrot hybrids)-it's quite simple. There are dozens of youngsters of this massage board who DON'T appear to live in a make believe world of big books and pseudo academia. Many are about to enter/attending/ have qualifications from Universities/Colleges of all grades of propriety, and they don't come on here brazenly plagiarising like little Lord Fontleroy! ph34r.gif

'Decent' blokes become indecent in my book when they question the proven wisdom, knowledge, and experience of their elders. SPARROT doesn't appear to have an original idea in his bright little cranium-Alexander Pope clocked him thus:


'The bookful blockhead, ignorantly read, with loads of learned lumber in his head'!


Just wait till he tries telling you how to sweat joints and rod drains! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-09 08:41:21
QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 9 2008, 02:57 AM) [snapback]491821[/snapback]
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I didn't know you had a career playing football in Australia VT, to be honest after being in your team i really thought neither of us were good enough to make a living from football but im proud that you managed to make a name for yourself down under.

Im also liking your hair better like that. smile.gif

MENTAL ATTRIBUTES


Influence-5

Hmm-probably slightly overstated. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-09 08:46:54
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 8 2008, 11:14 PM) [snapback]491747[/snapback]
Why did you change Sir Cliff's bangle from sunburned to bronzed ? dry.gif

I have an alarming addiction to alliteration Spurtle.
mortonjag 2008-08-09 08:50:29
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 8 2008, 10:49 PM) [snapback]491727[/snapback]
...but where do they kiss each other! Somehow I don't it's the face lips wink.gif

Lips!

QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Aug 8 2008, 11:57 PM) [snapback]491774[/snapback]
depends on what the cracking 14 year old is;
14 year old horse - possibly, shetland pony or similar. rolleyes.gif
14 year old sheep - nope, mutton dressed as lamb. mad.gif
14 year old blue whale - yes, flubbadubby wub.gif
14 year old copy of fiesta magazine - ooohhhh yes 1eye.gif
14 year old single malt - no, don't drink. angel.gif
14 year old mature danish blue - possible, i think i may have went down on a few rip.gif
14 year old emu - yes, i would like to do a bird standing up. wink.gif

laugh.gif

Bicdoc in funny post! blush.gif



But WHERE are all the big c*cks who were boasting of their exploits no time ago on the Jesse Boys' pages!
mortonjag 2008-08-09 08:53:04
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Aug 9 2008, 08:39 AM) [snapback]491842[/snapback]
was he born in Atlantis?

Large oaks from little acorns grow!
mortonjag 2008-08-10 08:23:14 He played quite well yesterday but looked in considerable pain when he was subbed-may have been his toe.
mortonjag 2008-08-10 08:25:50
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 9 2008, 12:24 PM) [snapback]491915[/snapback]
Was he born offside , hence no official record of him being at the hospital laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-08-10 08:27:07
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Aug 9 2008, 11:16 PM) [snapback]492159[/snapback]
If it is concussion it's an automatic 2 week lay off.

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mortonjag 2008-08-10 08:43:06
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 9 2008, 01:10 PM) [snapback]491922[/snapback]
alastair donald's date of appointment on form 288a is given as 1 July 2008.

the egm share issue resolutions specify a period of 5 years.


As usual Alistair, you talk in complete riddles! You must be severely constipated by now, and my offer of a 'manual' is delete.

QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 9 2008, 07:46 PM) [snapback]492038[/snapback]
As we are fans and the main source of income for GMFC I think we're entitled to know, or don't you care ??

Willy Man-there are certain regular offenders who care much more about self aggrandisement. Undoubtedly if the Jag had been posting the same sort of stuff in the Scott era those low life scum would have reacted in the same way.

QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Aug 9 2008, 07:51 PM) [snapback]492042[/snapback]
The fans are not the main source of income for Morton, the Golden Casket Group is. rolleyes.gif

The club's main source of INCOME is the fans Anus-plain and simple-and don't you forget it!

QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 9 2008, 08:04 PM) [snapback]492053[/snapback]
even if you were a shareholder, i doubt if you would be entitled to know

....entitled to know WHAT Alistair-the circumference of Mr Donald's sigmoid colon in the contracted state? dry.gif

I take it you were not perturbed by H.S.'s behaviour either!

cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(C B @ Aug 9 2008, 08:14 PM) [snapback]492061[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Am I the only one who thinks the signing of Cuthbert and Shimmin may have something to do with Donalds purse? huh.gif

We don't need someone who splashes the cash like a maniac, then we would have agents taking the mick, quiet money is what we need - spent wisely at the request of Mr Irons dry.gif

Source? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-10 08:57:19
QUOTE(Last Boat Home @ Aug 9 2008, 12:15 PM) [snapback]491913[/snapback]
You really are the King of contradictions

Your warped logic makes your constant sniping at Rae even more ironic as (based on your derogatory comments about his age,) he is probably older and certainly has more experience of running a football club than you - thus you must be a thoroughly “indecent bloke.”

As for wisdom, I find it strange that such a learned man as yourself would waste his time on what is essentially a thread for school weans excited or otherwise, about their exam results.

Personal attacks on young people (for having the audacity to do what comes naturally and question things,) by a fully fledged academic smacks of anything but wisdom! Years ago, before you could hide behind the internet, if you had behaved like this the boys old man would have appeared on your doorstep to beat the crap out of you.

I suspect you are bitter and jealous that they have their whole lives ahead of them with the potential to do what they want whilst you ……….have a few thousand posts left! unsure.gif

laugh.gif

I suspect you are an imperceptive person.
I suspect you imagine masturbation is a cardinal sin
I suspect you are SPARROT'S long lost wombling Uncle Bulgaria.
I suspect you are anally retentive.
I suspect you don't understand the meaning of 'logic'.
I suspect you don't have any sense of humour.
I suspect you are probably an extremely decent person in real life.
I suspect you believe in Santa Claus almost as much as Mortonjag.


............and can't understand 'knock knock' jokes, let alone a 'wind up'! thumbdown.gif

QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 9 2008, 05:38 PM) [snapback]491987[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif

Nothing but a pompous c***.
Must try harder I'm afraid.

Still hurting my little one? blush.gif It WAS only an exam. We got a good point yesterday. All is well in the world! laugh.gif

QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 10 2008, 05:16 AM) [snapback]492260[/snapback]
Gidday Last Boat Home,

I understand that mortonjag is in excellent health, apart from his wee penile problem.

He probably has several hundred thousand posts to go.

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I would happily give him a 50,000 post warranty any day.

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Why thank you kind Sir-it's refreshing to learn that the Antipodes houses at least one perceptive poster! cool.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-10 09:31:54
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Aug 9 2008, 07:41 PM) [snapback]492037[/snapback]
Cuthbert definitely, no Kilwinning connections where possible please.

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Cuthbert for me too-time will tell!
mortonjag 2008-08-10 09:43:15
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Aug 9 2008, 11:56 PM) [snapback]492165[/snapback]
It was f***ing psih as per usual. Two or three muted songs the whole game and other than the last 20 mins it was like a morgue at times.


It was indeed-the Cowshed only got vocal after the goals-that is now the norm! dry.gif
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Aug 10 2008, 12:02 AM) [snapback]492166[/snapback]
I'd go so far as saying he played a major part in our revival. His first touch of the ball took him to the byeline and won us a corner. Take note, McAlister.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Though we DID get several corners!
mortonjag 2008-08-10 10:12:35
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Aug 10 2008, 09:46 AM) [snapback]492281[/snapback]
Point being it's a wingers job to get to the byeline. Despite Jim's usual huffing and puffing and one tremendous run in the second half he was completely innefective. We know he can do it, look at the damage he caused against Killie. He's definitely going backwards this season.

laugh.gif

His showcase run in the second half fizzled out like a damp squib as usual. Almost as effective as his attempt to land a shot in the Golden Casket factory during the first half.

I've read all the post match analysis and he hardly gets a mention anywhere.

Unless he can be effectively be slotted in elsewhere he should be punted for the £200,000 or so we're constantly being told he's worth. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-10 10:24:41 FIFA Referee Profiles

Colin Brown

Date of Birth: 3 January 1974

Height: 5ft 10"

Weight: 12st 7

Profession: Solicitor

First ever match: St. Pauls v. Northern Colts U10's November 1989

First international match: 4th official on Scotland v. Wales U16's in the Victory Shield in 2004.

Career highlights Being promoted to Category 1 in June 2005
Refereeing the Scottish Junior Cup Semi Final in 2005

What does being a football referee mean to you? It means that I am able to go places, meet people, make friends and be involved in our national sport.

Why did you become a referee? My dad was a referee and I went to games with him and met a lot of referees. I used to go to referees training with my dad and knew some of the referees in Fife so when I was 15 I decided to attend the referees course in Fife.

Would you have wished to become a full-time referee? No

Any pet hates in football? Players who cheat

What Law of the Game would you change? Offside

The most difficult Law to apply? Simulation

Your best memory in football? The friends that I have

Other sports or hobbies? Bowls, Golf, Cooking

Your main strength? Being totally committed to everything I do

And main weaknesses? The inability to say no

What's in your car CD player? KT Tunstall

Beer or wine? Wine

Favourite film? Forrest Gump

Tastiest food? Mexican

Favourite holiday destination? America

Luck or judgement? Judgement

Dress up or dress down? Dress up

Whom would you most like to meet? Nelson Mandela, Robbie Williams

Ambitions? To go as far as I can in all that I do

Any advice for young referees? Be strong in all that you do and never be frightened to ask for advice from one of your colleagues




As anybody who enjoyed Dan Dare remembers, and as depicted, The Mekon in Black's interest in bowls is understandable!
mortonjag 2008-08-10 10:40:04
QUOTE(stuart @ Aug 10 2008, 10:26 AM) [snapback]492300[/snapback]
Was interested to see that Hamilton have Craig Thompson refereeing their match on Monday night. How is that investigation coming along?

I have written again twice with no reply, despite Drew Herbertson's claim that the incident was 'being investigated'.

Following the recent 'Refs' Strike' nonsense, Gordon Smith said the best referees 'try to get it right all the time' and claimed that 'when they don't, we do something about it'.

I had more or less given up on it, but I'll maybe have a final shot at Mr Smith this week!

Digressing slightly, it does somewhat amuse me that highly paid solicitors like Thomson and yesterday's Mekon are picking up £600-800 per game.

I DON'T mind if they do the job well and honestly. Experience suggests otherwise.
mortonjag 2008-08-10 10:45:57
QUOTE(C B @ Aug 10 2008, 10:26 AM) [snapback]492299[/snapback]
Yes ph34r.gif
I'm not a grass happy.gif

laugh.gif

I saw no evidence of Alistair at Cappielow yesterday. Rangers were playing at Falkirk.

Pehaps he was out of the county.
mortonjag 2008-08-10 10:49:21
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 10 2008, 10:18 AM) [snapback]492290[/snapback]
I think we are being a wee bit harsh on McAllister here. He has the ability, but doesn't at this moment in time have the end product.
He will always cause teams problems regardless. What I would like to see, if he is having a poor game, then he gets dropped.
Finlayson came on as a sub and made an impact. McAllister perhaps thinks he is guarenteed a game. It would be good to keep him on his toes and sub/drop him if need be.

I'm deliberately being harsh because there is no way he should be let anywhere near the left attacking wing position, yet it seems the only space left for him now! blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-10 10:52:47
QUOTE(C B @ Aug 10 2008, 10:49 AM) [snapback]492311[/snapback]
Falkirk game was finished in time and Stirlingshire isn't that far away, so theres no excuse really rolleyes.gif

Football's an expensive business those days-could you afford two matches in the one day?

If he's too tight to spend a bean on the Ton, I reckon he just took in the one-that and the absence of a helipad at Scapa.
mortonjag 2008-08-10 11:00:40 Please settle an argument.

My brother claims it's the old clock back from the pawn, but I thought it looked nice and new! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-10 11:04:13
QUOTE(C B @ Aug 10 2008, 10:58 AM) [snapback]492319[/snapback]
Now that the programmes are 50p cheaper, just about cool.gif
Has he never heard of parachuting out a plane mad.gif

Apparently it's been banned as it can distract players for a whole season!
mortonjag 2008-08-10 11:06:15
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 10 2008, 11:03 AM) [snapback]492321[/snapback]
It looked just like the Old Clock however due to it having been washed by rain for 12hrs previous it may have looked nice and new.

Argument settled and thread should now be closed laugh.gif

ph34r.gif

It was a question for the cognoscenti Willy Man!
mortonjag 2008-08-10 11:10:08
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Aug 10 2008, 10:57 AM) [snapback]492318[/snapback]
I said Greacen shouldn't play 'til next Saturday if he had the nailbed cauterized as it would hurt like f***! He obviously either didn't have it done, or he's one hard b*****d!

The two weeks for a concussion was the rule the SFA were talking about, to be brought into Scottish football a few seasons ago, to prevent further damage. If he plays any sooner then you'll know he either didn't have a concussion, or they didn't actually get round to applying the rule... dry.gif

PS Trumpton, you don't count. You were just daft, another head knock and you could have been left with serious problems.

Concussion's a very loose term (like diarrhoea).
mortonjag 2008-08-10 11:12:06
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 10 2008, 11:09 AM) [snapback]492327[/snapback]
Aye well I decided to butt in Dr Death laugh.gif

I'm convinced it's new and has been bought on tick.
mortonjag 2008-08-10 11:17:59 For those who rate Superkev and Jimbo, and criticise McGuffie! laugh.gif


The Tortoise and the Hare
One of Aesop's Fables


Once upon a time there was a hare who, boasting how he could run faster than anyone else, was forever teasing tortoise for its slowness. Then one day, the irate tortoise answered back: "Who do you think you are? There's no denying you're swift, but even you can be beaten!" The hare squealed with laughter.

"Beaten in a race? By whom? Not you, surely! I bet there's nobody in the world that can win against me, I'm so speedy. Now, why don't you try?"

Annoyed by such bragging, the tortoise accepted the challenge. A course was planned, and the next day at dawn they stood at the starting line. The hare yawned sleepily as the meek tortoise trudged slowly off. When the hare saw how painfully slow his rival was, he decided, half asleep on his feet, to have a quick nap. "Take your time!" he said. "I'll have forty winks and catch up with you in a minute."

The hare woke with a start from a fitful sleep and gazed round, looking for the tortoise. But the creature was only a short distance away, having barely covered a third of the course. Breathing a sigh of relief, the hare decided he might as well have breakfast too, and off he went to munch some cabbages he had noticed in a nearby field. But the heavy meal and the hot sun made his eyelids droop. With a careless glance at the tortoise, now halfway along the course, he decided to have another snooze before flashing past the winning post. And smiling at the thought of the look on the tortoise's face when it saw the hare speed by, he fell fast asleep and was soon snoring happily. The sun started to sink, below the horizon, and the tortoise, who had been plodding towards the winning post since morning, was scarcely a yard from the finish. At that very point, the hare woke with a jolt. He could see the tortoise a speck in the distance and away he dashed. He leapt and bounded at a great rate, his tongue lolling, and gasping for breath. Just a little more and he'd be first at the finish. But the hare's last leap was just too late, for the tortoise had beaten him to the winning post. Poor hare! Tired and in disgrace, he slumped down beside the tortoise who was silently smiling at him.

"Slowly does it every time!" he said. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-10 11:27:58
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 9 2008, 11:05 PM) [snapback]492152[/snapback]
mortonjag in "doesn't know what he's talking about" shocker

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He gets the odd tip for boring folk to tears at weddings etc. I was giving the benefit of the doubt.
mortonjag 2008-08-10 11:31:26
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Aug 10 2008, 04:01 AM) [snapback]492251[/snapback]
Just the education of a proper uni smile.gif
...which aided a very good guess. I'm rubbish at crosswords and the like!!

I won a dictionary in the Sunday Herald Crossword a few months back. I was pleased, though it's one of the most devious I've tried-NOT clever-just damned devious! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-10 11:39:05
QUOTE(Mags @ Aug 9 2008, 10:35 PM) [snapback]492131[/snapback]
Who's the other guy in your picture? ( not Phil Daniels or Sting ) Yeah,he's wearing eyeliner but he doesn't look at all gay,just looks like a regular,good looking guy so where's the harm in that?

When I went to the Cathcart ( as a girl biggrin.gif ! ) a lot of guys wore make up,me and my mates thought it was really cool as they wore all the new romantic gear and looked great.These guys took a lot of pride in their appearance,not like some of the wee hairy's that went to the Rotunda at the time !! As far as I know most of them are married,totally rubbishing all your immature theories that men who wear make-up must be gay.It's all about style, fashion and individuality.

You're all entitled to your opinion but it doesn't mean you're right.

I can't believe some of the quotes on here from parents about what they would do if they found out their son was gay.
I agree it would be a shock but hey....you created him....he got his genes from YOU .
Mags.

While I agree whole heartedly with that-men who wear make up look pouffe.

If they are pouffe-fine-if they like advertising it, but why would straight men want to look like pouffes?

Could it be that a significant proportion is incapable of thinking for itself?
mortonjag 2008-08-10 11:45:41
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Aug 10 2008, 10:56 AM) [snapback]492317[/snapback]
LOL !!!!

Trust me mate, if you saw my girl you'd know I'm defo not gay - Donga will testify that she's a cracker.
Never even been curious !

Unless of course you meant that I was jolly and happy - in which case - thanks partner - and I hope you're gay too.
TonInDublin

Where is the said?


I was looking forward to his OTT protestations that he'd NEVER shag a fourteen year old, now he's married. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-10 11:53:23
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Aug 10 2008, 11:28 AM) [snapback]492336[/snapback]
Same old clock having been away for repair, new perspex face cover! wink.gif

HA


He swore blind it was the old clock, and I argued vehemently that it wasn't 'because it had a different front'! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

It wasn't the old clock at all. The old clock had the old face!

Mortonjag is correct AGAIN! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-10 11:58:41
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Aug 10 2008, 11:39 AM) [snapback]492344[/snapback]
Other than the highlighted sentence, you're wrong on every point.

On which premises do you base your claim young man?

Oh, and are you stating opinion or fact? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-10 16:56:32
QUOTE(Jamie_M @ Aug 10 2008, 12:56 PM) [snapback]492379[/snapback]
Same face - different face COVER.

Just like when you wear womens clothing. Same mortonjag just different cover...

When mortonjag dons women's clothing he becomes Isidora.
mortonjag 2008-08-10 16:58:11
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 10 2008, 01:10 PM) [snapback]492388[/snapback]
Perhaps he is a part timer.

Just like the clock until yesterday!
mortonjag 2008-08-10 17:03:13
From the Chairman's Desk
13 June 2007

CLOSE SEASON SIGNING MISSIONS

I was disappointed to note from the unofficial message board that the Club was being criticised for lack of effort and lack of ambition because we have not yet made any close season signings. Isn’t it disappointing to note that the ‘negativity boys’ are at it again? They are never happier than when they have a good old moan. Thankfully the majority of our support has greater trust and confidence in the management of our Club than some of the correspondents of the unofficial message board’! Reports have suggested that we have been sitting back and taking it easy. I wish that had been the case. Believe me, the ‘gaffer’ and I have been very very busy talking and sparring with players and their Agents. Understandably players who are out of contract are considering all their options; the majority want to either play in the Premier league in Scotland or for one team or another in England where the wages are much higher then in Scotland.

I should perhaps tell you what we are looking for in the marketplace, a few players who are better than the players we currently have at Cappielow. That is a hard call as many of our players are above average which makes it more difficult to get the type of player we want because those who are better than we currently have don’t want to play in the 1st Division if they can do better for themselves.

We have been chasing a left sided player, aged 26, who has previously played in the Premier League and in England. If we can get him we will have to pay cash to his present Club to acquire his services. We will know the position in the course of next week.


We have also been searching far and near for a big strong mid-fielder. The ideal man for whom we made an approach was Simon Mensing of St Johnstone. However Simon turned us down as he does not want another season in the 1st Division and he will likely sign for either Motherwell or Swindon Town.

Finally, the search for a top goal scorer has also drawn a blank so far. We have a No.1 target who is currently on holiday and with whom we expect to talk the week after next.
As I stated earlier, we believe that we have an excellent pool of players at Cappielow and, having led the league last year from day one until promotion was achieved, we also believe that the guys who took us up have thus earned the chance to play in Division One. We think that if we could obtain the services of the type of players mentioned above that, allied to present staff, we could be a challenging team in the new season. Consider how our lads played against St Johnstone when we defeated them in the CIS Cup and surely you have not forgotten how the boys played in defeating Kilmarnock in the Scottish Cup?

Do you not think that these same lads deserve to lead us into the 1st Division?

One thing that is certain and that is that we will not he badgered into signing players just for the sake of it. We will only sign players that can strengthen the squad. To do otherwise would only be spending money that the Club cannot afford.


A walk down memory lane!


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mortonjag 2008-08-10 17:12:37
QUOTE(leyTON @ Aug 10 2008, 12:22 PM) [snapback]492364[/snapback]
not sure how anyone can rule out shimmin, hes obviously struggling with what a think is a more physical and agressive league from the ones he has played in before, but he looks a cut above IMO. Rescued us a few times yesterday.
the midfield does ,look a lot better, but the kick outs and typical harding hoofs rendered them pointless at times, and im still unsure about mcguffie, hes very reluctant to close down, and i thought he was culpable for the second goal
i hope kev can fulfill the role he did yesterday. hes too frustrating for 90 minutes but when he came on he posed a threat and his running seemed to give everyone a lift
Even though he is our best player, Jim by his own standards had a poor game, millar and the simon le bon lookalike they had at right back showed up the weaknesses in his defensive game, but i think he will pick up
i didnt see any of the games with 3 4 3 but i likeed yesterdays formation and thought that in fact peter had an ok game, especially at left back.

At one time I'd possibly have agreed, but that's now just a myth.
mortonjag 2008-08-10 17:17:45
QUOTE(jpmil @ Aug 10 2008, 04:08 PM) [snapback]492467[/snapback]
Another victim of the JM reign at Cappielow. IMHO this lad showed great promise but never given the opportunity to develop under that Muppet.
I wish Craig all the best for a future in football.

....who had the full confidence of over 75% of our perceptive non-muppet posters just a year ago!

Shall we sing him the Muppet song this Wednesday? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-10 17:22:14
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 10 2008, 04:30 PM) [snapback]492481[/snapback]
Who?

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Whom? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-10 17:33:45
QUOTE(leyTON @ Aug 10 2008, 12:05 PM) [snapback]492358[/snapback]
mortonjag if i degree from glasgow earns you buckets of cash but a pension plan which results in a retirement soley based on going on an internet chatroom and winding up a chap about 5 decades your junior
i normally dont mind you MJ but im starting to feel sorry for old VT
the appeals system is perfectly legitimate


Mortonjag has THREE degrees from a proper University. Your little SPARROT friend has plenty of 'previous' for deliberate and disrespectful abuse of his elders and betters. Ask him for yourself. He'll probably consult some big book before giving you a five paragraph denial. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif The motto is quite simple-let sleeping Jags lie, or to put it in more basic terms-HE STARTED IT! crying.gif
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Aug 10 2008, 12:57 PM) [snapback]492381[/snapback]
On the basis that I know him.

Oh and LAS, hadn't seen your post there, cheers for the advice. smile.gif

I see. Perhaps you'll ask him then why he chose to read this thread selectively before launching a diatribe! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-10 17:40:43
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 10 2008, 01:33 PM) [snapback]492395[/snapback]
Every generation has its trends and fads . We all have differing opinions on fashion .

Even during the Georgian era men wore wigs and make up so hardly a new phenomenon .

One mans fad is another mans farce .

One man's 'fud' is another man's arse!
mortonjag 2008-08-10 17:47:49
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Aug 10 2008, 12:39 AM) [snapback]492186[/snapback]
what pisses me off is when people eat something, like it, then decide that because they know what it is, it must be rotten or wrong.

My favourite dinner in New Mexico (Albuquerque), which I have to visit frequently, has alligator meat as starters, rattlesnake for main course (with the skeleton and skin and the tail as a key fob as garnishes) - delicious. You chose the snake you want and the snake is killed when you order it and laid out as per what you'd expect for a two-three foot crtter !

Gorgeous. Except for the snake. And the gator.

And I don't give a f*** what anyone says.

TonInDublin

Agreed, though I've never had the baws to tried jellied eels!

QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Aug 10 2008, 02:11 PM) [snapback]492404[/snapback]
In my early days in London I went to my girlfriends parents for dinner one night,nothing posh just family cooking which I was looking forward to as her parents were French and Italian background.Dinner that night was mums home made pasta,never eaten anything better since,accompanied by an anchovy sauce.I forget its proper name but the dish is well known as prostitutes pasta because of its strong fish content.It gave me the boak!Well,nearly.Being well dragged up like wot I is I ate it all.Every last bit and thanked the chef profusely for another wonderful home cooked meal,thinking,thank f*** that's over! Unfortunately I was presented with this again on another occasion but now I KNOW what it tastes like and it was twice as hard to eat but somehow I managed....I confessed all when it came up a third time!

One of the VERY few foods I can't stomach is anchovy!

Last night I had chilli pakora-whole chillies with the stalks still on them, and deep fried in batter. Absolutely gorgeous, and VERY hot!
mortonjag 2008-08-10 18:02:22
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 10 2008, 05:27 PM) [snapback]492523[/snapback]
How many letters?

four!
mortonjag 2008-08-10 18:03:40
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Aug 10 2008, 05:29 PM) [snapback]492529[/snapback]
I would agree with that. During Millar's high visibility spell during the match, the Morton boys didn't seem bothered about challenging him at all! Luckily he wasn't too much of a threat yesterday. He'll be the same player for St Johnstone IMO, blowing hot and cold all the time. He made a lot of valuable contributions in a Morton shirt, but I don't think his departure really damaged us too much. We've moved on.

Our midfield inertia would benefit greatly from a 'Millar' IMO.
mortonjag 2008-08-10 18:20:36
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 10 2008, 05:59 PM) [snapback]492545[/snapback]
Can't think of any who fit that description - I'd repect their views if I came across them of course.

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You are much better than me at many things, including (I'd imagine), football, attracting young women, pissing efficiently, remembering things, feeling optimistic about politicians, etc. No doubt you can think of 'hunners' more.


I'm better than you at loads of things too, for the simple reason that I'm much older and have a wealth of experience, in addition to having a reasonably active mind! smile.gif

For example I never contribute to PS3, wrestling, Pop music threads, and so on, because my knowledge about those subjects is 'zilch'.

If I wanted to look important on such threads, it would be easy to plagiarise like mad!


My message to you is simple-state your honestly held opinions, and be prepared to justify them on the basis of your experience. If you cannot, and merely like the sound of somebody else's opinion, by all means share it, but DON'T try to present it as your own. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-10 18:31:53
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Aug 10 2008, 06:18 PM) [snapback]492557[/snapback]
He scored, the aim of the game. If we have players that play bad but score goals then I'll take that all season thanks!

Agreed!

Ten minutes of Big Andy is worth ten hours of Superkev.
mortonjag 2008-08-10 18:36:45
QUOTE(dazed @ Aug 10 2008, 01:26 PM) [snapback]492393[/snapback]
Well your in the best position to judge! cool.gif

I think they are just two sweet little boys who love each other!

QUOTE(beermonkey @ Aug 10 2008, 03:09 PM) [snapback]492439[/snapback]
unsure.gif mellow.gif huh.gif Oh f*** !!!
I'm gay !!! blush.gif

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......but are you a POUFFE?
mortonjag 2008-08-10 18:45:08
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Aug 10 2008, 06:38 PM) [snapback]492562[/snapback]
laugh.gif

That one worked out: McAnespie, Gardyne, Coakley and Robinson all turned out to be worse than the players who were already in their positions in the team. laugh.gif

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I'm still puzzled by one thing-was WAKEY a JM signing or a Chairman signing.

He HAS strengthened the squad-for sure!
mortonjag 2008-08-10 18:48:15
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Aug 10 2008, 11:28 AM) [snapback]492336[/snapback]
Same old clock having been away for repair, new perspex face cover! wink.gif

Is it a mechanical clock?

I can think of somebody who could probably wind it up.
mortonjag 2008-08-10 18:59:07 Many happy returns to Cawstick! blush.gif


...and just for the little one.....

A massage board poster named LeyTON
Claimed joyously he'd a gay date on
And soon he'd be spiking
The arsehole of 'Viking'
Believing 'twould beat masturbation' wub.gif

Go easy of the cake, or in further rhyme you'll be putting weight on!
mortonjag 2008-08-10 19:35:51
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 10 2008, 07:00 PM) [snapback]492567[/snapback]
I thought it was second hand unsure.gif

Could they not face the bill for a newby?
mortonjag 2008-08-10 19:39:51
QUOTE(C B @ Aug 10 2008, 07:06 PM) [snapback]492574[/snapback]
Another pointless anti-kev statement, 10 minutes of big Andy is worth ten hours of ANY morton player SINCE big Andy dry.gif

Neither pointless NOR anti-kev.

Merely a statement of opinion, endorsed by your own comment.
mortonjag 2008-08-10 19:42:58
QUOTE(C B @ Aug 10 2008, 07:09 PM) [snapback]492577[/snapback]
No you are spot on - well said that man wub.gif
Do you need anymore proof of your resounding correctness jpmil? laugh.gif

Ten minutes of Big Andy is worth two hours of Midge.
mortonjag 2008-08-10 19:47:31
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 10 2008, 07:24 PM) [snapback]492579[/snapback]
I thought he was the most influencial player for them in the 1st half and was glad to see he fell out the game in the second .
Up ended McAllister at the start and had the freedom on the stand side .

Noticed yesterday at their corners we had no one sitting out anticepating the second ball and Millar pick up the loose . They eventually used 2 players to try and pick up the out ball .

When it was our corner Millar again patrolled this area and stopped us from getting a clear shot off .

He ain't our player anymore but I wouldn't say he had a bad game for them .

While we have guys in our squad who the manager doesn't rate then any effort by Millar would be better than that of McAnespie rolleyes.gif

Midge would be an asset now. Our midfield is too static and just wants to offload the ball.

Nice to see St Johnstone value him even if some of our fans are indulging in the usual 'kick his c*nt in for leaving' crap! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-10 20:06:12 I reckon that the stereotype of any profession generally has a fair bit of inbuilt accuracy. Doctors, for example as usually seen as a bit aloof, unapproachable, and having an exaggerated opinion of their value to society, and I reckon that's not far off the mark for a good proportion.

Teachers are often perceived as having gone from school to 'Uni' and back to school, and to exist in something of a pupil and teacher occupied microcosm. There are 'hunners' of teachers in my extended family, and I find that quite true of many of them.

Lawyers tend to be non gregarious money grabbers with stiff upper lips and polished shoes who, like teachers, feel most at home among their own kind.

There are many stereotypes of course-I'm sure the stereotype for a good shag must include big boobs, a short skirt, 'f*ck me' boots, and a 'come-on' smile, with seamed stockings an optional extra!

Anyway-I'm trying to start a bloody thread before this effin forum dies a death! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-10 20:56:45
QUOTE(C B @ Aug 10 2008, 07:51 PM) [snapback]492587[/snapback]
Its not as if Andy is available for selection??? You'll have to explain yourself better than that blink.gif

If he's fit enough to do the prize draw, he's fit enough to perform as he did! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-10 21:00:23
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 10 2008, 08:07 PM) [snapback]492593[/snapback]
Are they complaining he didn't do more against us ? If he had a stormer they would be pillaring him for never giving 90 minutes when he was with us .
Talkabout fickle . Scott McLaughlin will be having a field day

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mortonjag 2008-08-10 21:03:03
QUOTE(C B @ Aug 10 2008, 07:49 PM) [snapback]492586[/snapback]
Very droll dry.gif

I always do my best CB!

Ten minutes of Big Andy is worth millions of 'From the Chairman's desks'.
mortonjag 2008-08-10 21:22:47
QUOTE(forza ton @ Aug 10 2008, 09:08 PM) [snapback]492611[/snapback]
yer still s***e at those mj. u just aint got the beat.

happy birthday folks!!!! smile.gif



There was an old man from Calcutta
Who had a t terrible stutter
At breakfast he said
Pas the b b b bread
And the b b b b b b butter! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-10 21:29:31
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Aug 10 2008, 09:24 PM) [snapback]492616[/snapback]
Definately faction.

50/50?
mortonjag 2008-08-11 06:56:42
QUOTE(leyTON @ Aug 10 2008, 10:20 PM) [snapback]492637[/snapback]
i can think who is now MJ unless shimmin will take the mantle

I used to see Jimbo as arguably our 'best' player for the following reasons

1/ His application and energy

2/ His effectiveness

3/ His potential

It seems that he's either been 'found out' by the first division, or there's something not right.

Number 1 is still in place-he's our fittest player and deserves credit for that.

Number 2 has become something of a lottery-he blows hot and cold, and recently has been constantly off the boil.

Number 3 has become a puzzle-the potential still SEEMS there, but is he now flattering to deceive?

For several reasons I can now think of a good half dozen players whom I'd rate as 'better'.
mortonjag 2008-08-11 07:00:57
QUOTE(Deego @ Aug 11 2008, 12:11 AM) [snapback]492679[/snapback]
According to gmfc.net we haven't played any games yet? unsure.gif

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That's shocking-who made this inaccurate statement? If I were you I'd e-mail 'The Club' and clype to him immediately.
mortonjag 2008-08-11 07:08:11
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 10 2008, 10:07 PM) [snapback]492631[/snapback]
Jim I asked that very question at the Q+A . The response wasn't exactly positive . Why not even approach the Telegraph or even sell raffle tickets again this should have been addressed in the summer .

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QUOTE(chris_mceleny @ Aug 10 2008, 11:50 PM) [snapback]492668[/snapback]
any of you who think the club is right to charge youth players £3 is a fool! its a no brainer as to the type of mentality that losses us players to celtic , rangers, aberdeen, kilmarnock, st mirren etc. Go to morton and have to pay £3 on top of any travel expenses or go to one of the above or another , dont pay £3 and perhaps get travel expenses! Why £3 ? For strips?

It is another example of the Scrooge mentality of our leader.

QUOTE(marxist_ton @ Aug 10 2008, 11:59 PM) [snapback]492671[/snapback]
I played for Saint Andrews BC and payed every week.

I was also in the Beavers, Cubs and Scouts and I payed every week.

I am now in a pipe band and I pay subs money every month.

Each of the not for profit organisations I have mentioned above allowed me to use their facilities for fitba or whatever, and as a result I payed (pay) a very minimal cost to the running of such organisations.

Only fair

Indeed-and I can't escape the irony of your 'not for profit' comment! Once the club is run efficiently we'll be profitable without having to discourage local talent with cynical penny pinching for the sake of a couple of grand p.a., while handing out 33% wage rises and long contracts to mediocre players.

I've alluded before to the fact that Fr. Rae thinks the fans have an obligation to the club. That must be the archetype of 'pot, kettle, and black'! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-11 07:24:00
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Aug 10 2008, 11:19 PM) [snapback]492659[/snapback]
In the good old days, Ritchie and Hutchieson could be on that quick the fag burns would still be smouldering on their Morton tops.

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That's true-I blame DI for the goal-he should definitely be handing out free fags to the players! smile.gif

I've rarely heard such a pathetic gripe. It's five minutes till half time, and we're playing quite well. He's obviously happy with the shape of the defence and wants Walker back on. He's FORCED to wait until others decide how bad the knock is, and makes the correct decision to sub him as soon as that's apparent to him.

I actually blame Douglas Rae for both Saints goals. I can't think of a good excuse yet but I'll soon find a better one than blaming DI! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-11 07:28:42
QUOTE(larmton @ Aug 11 2008, 12:30 AM) [snapback]492691[/snapback]
sounds brilliant.
how do i get in? huh.gif

PM Ton in Dublin or Boozehound provided you're eighteen or over and don't mind Mortonjag calling you a POUFFE!
mortonjag 2008-08-11 07:41:59
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Aug 10 2008, 09:53 PM) [snapback]492630[/snapback]
The fish themselves I wouldn't even attempt to try (don't like fish aside from smoked Haddock, and VERY occasionally Mackerel) but Worcestershire sauce is really good!

I was surprised to discover that anchovy is an ingredient-and the poster who despises baked beans should try them on toast, grilled under a layer of grated mature cheddar and seasoned with black pepper and Worcestershire sauce. thumbup2.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-11 07:47:32
QUOTE(leyTON @ Aug 10 2008, 10:10 PM) [snapback]492632[/snapback]
can i ask MJ if you dislike me as much as VT?

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For all I know you ARE VT!


I don't dislike any of our posters (though I've reason to believe I'd dislike a few once I'd had a chance to meet them in person)!

Others have said VT's a decent young lad, and I've no reason to disbelieve them.

VT knows very well why mortonjag appears to dislike him, and the remedy rests with the former! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-11 07:51:58
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 10 2008, 12:26 PM) [snapback]492366[/snapback]
Will be aye, play in Lomond and Clyde pipe band smile.gif



I hope you have not been telling Fains of Mintry pipe band, that you play in a proper one! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-11 07:56:42
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Aug 10 2008, 11:43 PM) [snapback]492665[/snapback]
Checked the link and ended up on this one!! - Kyle with no knickers on!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=P8vfioesdro&...feature=related

Some women will sink to the depths of depravity to sell their wares!

Do you have a link to the full concert? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-11 08:00:43
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Aug 11 2008, 12:51 AM) [snapback]492704[/snapback]
All in agreement so far...

NOT NOW!

I just voted to see what others were saying-I don't understand why anybody would eat beaver-they're nearly as bad as skunks.

Having said that, I guess there must be beavers and beavers. If I was starving I might eat beaver if it wasn't too smelly.
mortonjag 2008-08-11 08:07:37
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 11 2008, 07:53 AM) [snapback]492731[/snapback]
Did Sugar Rae play in goal ?

No he was a sweeper in the sweetie factory............................................................................ team.

QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Aug 11 2008, 08:00 AM) [snapback]492734[/snapback]
Jeezo MJ you are really slipping up here - how about Shoogly always interferes with team matters - no substitution could actually be made until DI has submitted the appropriate Fudgy Wudgy Formy in triplicate to Golden Casket, receiving a reply that at best was incomprehensible, running it by jim McInally at East Stirling, and then having to shout up to the Directors box for permission. In fact given the previous I am surprised that we actually got a sub on before half time....as for the other goal it is obviously his fault that Saints got C.Miller on a pre-contract and therefore scored first as DDF picked the team that included S.Greacen who fired the ball off a Sainty for a score rolleyes.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Will you please stop using the highlighted term. The Chairman is known as Duncan Douglas Faulds Rae, and from now on I expect him to be described as such.

Such has much to answer for.
mortonjag 2008-08-11 08:21:25
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 9 2008, 01:10 PM) [snapback]491922[/snapback]
alastair donald's date of appointment on form 288a is given as 1 July 2008.

the egm share issue resolutions specify a period of 5 years.

perhaps moronjag can remind us of the significance of the word 'designated'?

Yes Alistair-Mr Donald became a designated Director of Greenock Morton on 23rd July 2008!

I'm interested to note from your good self that he was not appointed to the club's Board of Directors until 1st July.

I presume that until then, the 'Tilly splurge' and subsequent speculation was slightly misleading.

Why was he not appointed by the club till 1st July, when he's been listed as a Director in the Official match Programme since February? mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-11 08:29:40
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Aug 9 2008, 06:46 PM) [snapback]492025[/snapback]
MJ that is just bad manners...I expected better biggrin.gif

You are of course, correct.

When in Rome one must do as the Romans.

If I go to Rome I shall indeed stand erect for the Pope.
mortonjag 2008-08-11 08:33:10
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 11 2008, 08:12 AM) [snapback]492739[/snapback]
I wont ever see them. They tend to only do gala days and the likes.
..and the Olympics ceremony. laugh.gif

No doubt they will believe they ARE now a proper pipe band! mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-11 08:39:33
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 11 2008, 08:34 AM) [snapback]492749[/snapback]
How does one define a proper pipe band though?

Same way one defines a proper university....personal opinion wink.gif

So this WAS an opinion:


Fains of Mintry pipe band, very sh1te I might add too!!

Now I am more confused than ever. I know nothing about pipe bands, so I defer to your superior knowledge. I expect FACTS,and all I get is opinion dressed as fact!


If there's anything you need to know about proper Universities BTW, I'm yer man! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-11 09:08:05
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 11 2008, 08:36 AM) [snapback]492750[/snapback]
Does the Pope go to Rome to see the football ?

I thought he had his own wee state.

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Joe Mason was one of our best forwards. In that respect Masons have been good for Morton.

I don't know if the Pope is into football-the last one (Artur if I recall) played in goals.
mortonjag 2008-08-11 09:14:39
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 11 2008, 08:44 AM) [snapback]492753[/snapback]
Ok, when they actually do compete in competitions they compete in the very lowest grade available for an adult pipe band.

I have looked up their results.

They haven't competed this year.

2007, in the lowest grade, they came last at the two competition they played at and in 2006 came second last in 2 competitions and last in the other.

None of these being major championships.

So my opinion is not dressed as fact but actually backed up with it.
If you think I'm some SPARROT then think again happy.gif

Quoting your sources frees you from plagiarism young man!

I'm concerned though that Fains of Mintry may view those adjudicators in the same way that devotees of improper universities view performance league tables.

QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 11 2008, 08:58 AM) [snapback]492757[/snapback]
Oh and I'm surprised no one picked up my first mistake.

It's actually Mains of Fintry Pipe Band laugh.gif

I thought you were deliberately takin' the piss. Your Clomond and Llyde crowd have won the Welsh Championships I believe!
mortonjag 2008-08-11 10:06:19
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Aug 11 2008, 09:29 AM) [snapback]492767[/snapback]
On our first league home game of the season little over 2000 home fans turned up, probably at least a few hundred of which came from outside Inverclyde. And Inverclyde has a population of over 80,000. There's undoubtedly more football fans from this area travelling to watch the OF every week, and countless more armchair OF fans.

So here's my question: If the community does not support the football club, then how is the football club meant to support the community?

That's not a question, it's a conundrum!

The football club should not need to SUPPORT the community. If it wishes to increase its support FROM the community, it should reverse the current 'us and them' siege mentality, communicate information freely with the fans via its website and the local media, and ENCOURAGE promising local youngsters to favour Morton over other sides.

Public Relations at Cappielow are fragmented to the point of non existence. There appears to be NO internal communication system whatsoever.

More criticism of the Club? Aye indeed, and I don't believe things will improve materially until a 'new broom' is found.
mortonjag 2008-08-11 10:14:56
QUOTE(Cawston @ Aug 11 2008, 10:08 AM) [snapback]492780[/snapback]
Sums it up for me.

Talented player but not influential enough to really miss.

I wish him well in Perth but at the same time I'm quite happy that DI seems to have put an end to the lightweight midfield problem that we've had since, well...forever.

Oh don't worry-it won't be long before DI is getting pelters for his big immobile midfield.

It's staring me in the face that we have little creativity-nobody wants to hold the ball, let alone run with it. Chris Millar would complement our current midfield quite nicely IMO.
mortonjag 2008-08-11 10:20:39
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 11 2008, 10:08 AM) [snapback]492779[/snapback]
Has anyone seen SmithsTON ?

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Don't worry about Anus, Newt. He'll produce some crappy answer in due course.
mortonjag 2008-08-11 10:25:39
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 11 2008, 09:22 AM) [snapback]492763[/snapback]
One Mason does not a wall make.
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......nor one raisin a Christmas Pudding.
mortonjag 2008-08-11 10:28:44
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 11 2008, 09:18 AM) [snapback]492762[/snapback]
*sigh*

RSPBA.org

Go into results and use the band selector from 2007 and 2006 and you will find Mains of Fintry Pipe Band.

And your smart-arseness doesn't work in pipe bands as the current Scottish and British champions are from Dublin smile.gif

I had ALREADY excused you as you explained you WERE quoting-daftie!

Anyway, which of the two bands is more proper?
mortonjag 2008-08-11 11:10:06
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Aug 11 2008, 09:23 AM) [snapback]492764[/snapback]
I dont blame you, i wouldn't go near a beaver your age either.

I'd imagine a beaver of my age would be a skeleton.
mortonjag 2008-08-11 11:15:20
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 11 2008, 10:39 AM) [snapback]492795[/snapback]
It still all comes down to opinions. Competition results would say us.

Also, I am not taking anything away from the band. It must have been absolutely brilliant to be out there and be part of something like that. I once done the opening of the Special Olympics at Parkhead in my old band and even that was a great day.

I just thought for something like that, seeing as expenses would be getting paid and the likes, they would have went for a much more sought-after, well known pipe band. And I don't mean my own...I mean one far superior to it. Was quite surprised is all.

Well done to them for it!
...lucky bassas laugh.gif

Jelly sea!
mortonjag 2008-08-11 11:18:15
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 11 2008, 11:01 AM) [snapback]492803[/snapback]
How do lamb's brains compare with monkey brains ?

I have only had monkey brains once in Bali and I think they may have been overcooked.



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mortonjag 2008-08-11 11:25:07
QUOTE(leyTON @ Aug 11 2008, 11:07 AM) [snapback]492806[/snapback]
just because you have hinted before you dont mind me, but i tick the boxes of anger in you VT does. as far as i know he and i have similar exam results, and are going to do a similar course at the same improper university

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....in which case you are surely bright enough to realise that this has nothing to do with exam results or universities-proper or otherwise.

Read my post 70 for a little guidance to my true perception of 'Academia'!

I detest academic snobbery, particularly in the pseudo form of infantile plagiarism.

THAT is my problem with SPARROT! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-11 11:29:49
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 11 2008, 10:43 AM) [snapback]492797[/snapback]
McAnespie is a waster.

Undoubtedly a talented guy, capable of making a real impact but doesn't seem to have the desire to do it. It's too easy to sit on the sidelines taking a wage when it's well within his ability to play, and play well, in this division.

Morton would be much better off without him.

I've heard this accusation several times.If it's such common knowledge, why ever was he signed?
mortonjag 2008-08-11 11:35:12
QUOTE(Cawston @ Aug 11 2008, 10:25 AM) [snapback]492788[/snapback]
I was surprised at how low the crowd was, I was expecting another 1000 on the attendance esp being the first home game of the season.

Hopefully a couple of wins on the bounce will get the crowds out.


The 'feel good factor' has gone for the time being. Good performances will get it back hopefully.
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Aug 11 2008, 11:02 AM) [snapback]492804[/snapback]
This is nonsense. Morton lay on free transport to away games either by the Club Minibus or coach (for longer journeys) Get your facts right before posting irresponsible drivel like this. mad.gif

You'd never post irresponsible drivel, Anus! laugh.gif

QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Aug 11 2008, 11:08 AM) [snapback]492807[/snapback]
why should disabled people HAVE to sit in the disabled area ??? the reduced rate is NOT for the area,it is for the fact that the person has a dissability, so why should they pay extra just because they want to go into the ground ??
ffs disabled people have more often than not financial burdens that us able bodied people dont have, the fact that clubs are giving them reduced rates is something we should be PROUD of not moaning about..or does the thought of seeing someone less fortunate than yourself, (through no fault of their own) getting a wee helping hand, get right up your capatalistic nose ?

In general terms I agree. Disabled people are inevitably disadvantaged. Mr Murrayhun might disagree, mind you! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-11 11:40:01
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Aug 11 2008, 11:34 AM) [snapback]492818[/snapback]
I'd REALLY love to hear what people think about truck drivers...don't hold back! unsure.gif

Swashbuckling jack the lads who are never averse to the wee fly shag in the cab! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-11 12:01:05
QUOTE(CJTon @ Jun 27 2008, 11:26 PM) [snapback]467936[/snapback]
Mortonjag

Told you that it was just an administrative issue. AD is a thoroughly decent chap with local roots and an asset to GMFC. He may have a passion for one of the old firm but he has also seen to have passion for the Ton too.

Maybe about time you were a bit more positive about the club now that you have been given the information by Crawford.

Cheers

Why was Mr Donald not appointed a Director until July 1st? The club has been touting him as a Director since January. If it was just an administrative issue, why was the appointment not backdated?

It seems clear that Mr Donald WAS NOT a Director until July 1st, OR, if he was, why has he apparently lied to Companies House about the date of his appointment? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-11 12:15:22
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 11 2008, 11:56 AM) [snapback]492832[/snapback]
Don't you ever read the chairman's desk ?? tongue.gif

I do-have I missed something. Is he a Fudgy Wudgy addict?
mortonjag 2008-08-11 12:18:25
QUOTE(suda @ Aug 11 2008, 12:09 PM) [snapback]492838[/snapback]
when the club Doctor comes onto the park ands strechers off a player it's obvious he's not coming back on. At that point we should of had McManus waiting to come on, he was pissing about putting shinpads and a shirt on he should of been stripped and waiting to go. It's a mistake that hopefully won't be repeated.

That makes absolutely no sense to me. I've often seen players stretchered off, only to return a few minutes later after a proper examination's been made!
mortonjag 2008-08-11 16:15:36
QUOTE(suda @ Aug 11 2008, 12:35 PM) [snapback]492850[/snapback]
when the doctor comes on the park it usually means the injury is more serious and the Physio has called the doctor on. In this case Walker was heavily concussed and was obviously taking no further part. Either way McManus should of been ready to go on, required or not he should of been prepared.

I'm not arguing the rights and wrongs of McManus being apparently unprepared-if he should have been and was not-SOMEBODY'S to blame.

I'm merely calling in question those who are attempting to second guess the time it should have taken to properly assess Walker's injury, with comments like 'it was obvious' etc., etc.

For what it's worth, I got a very good view of the incident, and he certainly appeared to be instantly K.O.'d, so it PROBABLY should have been obvious he shouldn't continue!
mortonjag 2008-08-11 16:22:26
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 11 2008, 02:14 PM) [snapback]492894[/snapback]
We were unlucky against Clyde but you have to take your chances!! Having said that, most of us would have settled for a point at Broadwood followed by a point from St Johnstone.

The real test is next week against Livvy at Cappielow. If we are to have a decent season or even realistically expect not to be in a relegation battle, thats the sort of game we must win. Championships are won by winning your home games and averaging a point away from home.

I still have strong reservations about our squad and options, but none about our performances so far.

I said before yesterday's game I'd settle for a draw, and we MIGHT just have taken three points. I didn't see the Broadwood game, but understand we were miles ahead, so we COULD currently be heading up the league! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-11 16:25:17
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 10 2008, 05:04 AM) [snapback]492259[/snapback]
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to control the cost of toilet paper ??

Nope-to make sure his is always the cleanest.
mortonjag 2008-08-11 16:31:20 We couldn't have done better-I reckon we'll be this years cup tie side-hard to beat, and liable to provide a few surprises!

If we lose (as the bookies will predict) it's still plenty of lovely 'munny' for 'The Club'! bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif

Maybe the Chairman will buy us a winger!
mortonjag 2008-08-11 16:46:38
QUOTE(larmton @ Aug 11 2008, 12:10 PM) [snapback]492839[/snapback]
oh
im 18 or over laugh.gif
and u go ahead and do that

Can you first confirm that no other member of your family will be upset at my likening you to soft furniture?
mortonjag 2008-08-11 16:53:15
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 11 2008, 12:18 PM) [snapback]492843[/snapback]
I'd like to see evidence of said plagiarism, so I can acknowledge the blatant primary sources from which I developed said opinion. blush.gif

Let's call a truce!

I agree to alert you you each time you appear to be proffering others' thoughts and opinions as if your own. I won't even call you SPARROT again until you do!

In return you will accept that I am always correct, unless you can provide incontrovertible evidence in contention. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-11 16:56:51
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Aug 11 2008, 03:37 PM) [snapback]492947[/snapback]
Masons? Pfft. Remember the brotherhood of Wanquee is still alive and well. Ain't that right Stuart?

What happened to the Wanquees BH? Maybe they would do better as Jesse boys!
mortonjag 2008-08-11 17:01:22 ph34r.gif dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-11 17:06:54
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Aug 11 2008, 03:28 PM) [snapback]492941[/snapback]
You will note that my superior intellect allowed me to foresee someone hitting me with s***ey homophobic patter, hence the reason I specified I was the best only at things worth being the best at. So, in short, yes I am.

HA-it was jealousy then when you banned the best wee knob sooker in Inverclyde!
mortonjag 2008-08-11 17:09:24
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Aug 11 2008, 04:42 PM) [snapback]492979[/snapback]
I always use Ryanair, they're cheaper.

I'll get my jaikit.

TonInDublin

Ryandee only charges me 50p a sook!
mortonjag 2008-08-11 17:42:06
QUOTE(Alibi @ Aug 11 2008, 05:28 PM) [snapback]493001[/snapback]
Serves him right for wearing that Union flag...

Mr McArthur and the Brits will be gutted! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-11 17:46:55
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 11 2008, 05:40 PM) [snapback]493004[/snapback]
I flashed my elegant French headlights at a dinky boy racer Saab convertible when immediately behind said ve-hic-cule on Saturday leaving Cappielow - Iwas immediately behind in queue to turn onto Gibbshill Road. Said vehicle had a number plate which left me in no doubt as to the occupant but he treated me with the usual disdain and ignored my friendly overtures!

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I think at that stage I was distracted as my brother had de-tuned the radio and I wanted the 'footie'. I don't normally ignore flashers! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-11 17:51:17
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 11 2008, 05:43 PM) [snapback]493006[/snapback]
Link to the story, as am in the dark here

I heard it on Five Live. Superbrat succumbs in straight sets to unknown from outer Mongolia or thereabouts!

Maybe if he'd been playing for his country and not Britain he'd have tried a bit harder! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-11 17:59:10
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 11 2008, 05:49 PM) [snapback]493009[/snapback]
To be fair, we were playing a different formation from what we have played in all of pre season and all our competitive matches thus far. We badly missed Wake - not for his particular ability but rather that we could not play the formation that has worked well for us so far. Newby and Russell are not the answer as a pairing upfront as both need a hold up man to play off, especially Newby - but put Wake into a front three and the whole thing becomes more dangerous.

I think thats where our squad is thin in the extreme - we have no cover upfront at all and if there is one more signing before the window shuts, I hope its a forward.

I don't agree that we are not creative enough. We've scored 9 goals in our first three competitive game and in the two league games we've had a fair number of chances beyond those we actually converted.

I agree about Wakey-I can't believe he was SO bad for the first wee while we had him.

We desperately missed him on Saturday, but please note our 'creativity' rarely comes from midfield-rather Newbs and Iain are effectively doubling as wingers. It has worked quite well so far, but we definitely need more options. Jenkins may give us more drive through the middle but at least one 'winger' would make us much more potent as a strike force.
mortonjag 2008-08-11 18:32:29
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Aug 11 2008, 06:28 PM) [snapback]493025[/snapback]
really glad we signed cuthbert and shimmin as I feel that both areas needed strengthening. the defence and midfield now has strength in depth and we have 2 experienced goalkeepers to scrap for the no.1 jersey.
I'd still like to see another striker come in. Andy Kirk would've been a cracking signing for us. Also heard Calum Elliot was going out on loan. Can't really think of any other possible strikers at the mo.
Thoughts?

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mortonjag 2008-08-11 18:38:01 I notice that Fr. Rae has appointed Rev. Dave Hall as official Club Chaplain. Presumably if things are not going as planned, he'll put in a good word for us upstairs.


I feel a bit saddened that The Rev. Hall's services were not available to Jim McInally.
mortonjag 2008-08-11 18:42:49
QUOTE(centralTON @ Aug 11 2008, 06:36 PM) [snapback]493031[/snapback]
Or....fifteen minutes with you.....MJ. wink.gif

15 mins with mortonjag would convince the last few doubters that he is indeed a remarkable creature! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-11 18:50:41
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Aug 11 2008, 06:12 PM) [snapback]493017[/snapback]
I think it was Chinese Taipei, son.

anyway, well done to the ''Murray brothers'' on coming from a set behind to go through to the next round of the doubles.

That's what I thought-Outer Mongolia or threreabouts!

QUOTE(stuart @ Aug 11 2008, 06:40 PM) [snapback]493036[/snapback]
He had far more chance of winning a medal in the doubles than the singles anyway so this first round exit will be the best thing that could have happened for him.

You reckon he 'threw it'. That's certainly in the true spirit of the Olympics. I say he got humpt, and he and his not quite so super brat brother will get humpt too! bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-11 18:54:10
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Aug 11 2008, 06:43 PM) [snapback]493039[/snapback]
McInally spoke to God by himself. God agreed to help out, but only if he could play in the centre of midfield. The next game, McInally in his infinite wisdom played him at left back and was therefore told to f*** off by the almighty

Not QUITE right-JM frequently gave God wee shots at picking the team.

Anyway, which denomination does this Holy Willie represent, and will our multicultural squad all be rushing to his feet for regular blessings?
mortonjag 2008-08-11 18:56:59
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 11 2008, 06:51 PM) [snapback]493045[/snapback]
Pedantry alert!
You'd find no such thing on the balance sheet unless the expenses are in arrears. blush.gif

Now you may all go back to your daily business.

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My partner bought a new vallance sheet yesterday, and we NEVER go into the red! blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-11 19:00:32
QUOTE(centralTON @ Aug 11 2008, 06:57 PM) [snapback]493048[/snapback]
Agree laugh.gif , BTW do you sit at the behind me in B section of the Stand?

I have this vision of what you look like and there is someone who fits my image of you, behind me. If it's ,you feel free to say hi. I sit beside my boy and am the one with the Suedehead. wink.gif

I don't think so-I get confused with the section numbers but we normally sit within farting distance of Fr. Rae-I might add that we sit BEHIND him! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-11 19:15:37
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 11 2008, 06:24 PM) [snapback]493024[/snapback]
If ye can't fry it, don't eat it !

No ice cream for Spurtle!
mortonjag 2008-08-11 19:48:41
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 11 2008, 07:30 PM) [snapback]493065[/snapback]
I am shocked that there is another diety at Cappielow . Perhaps it was the intervention of Alistair
Donald who has insisted on a much higher stature than Sugar Rae .

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Oh dear- with Mr Donald being a Hunster we must surely assume that this new member of staff is a prodigod-I had been thinking that in this secular age maybe a 'Chaplain' is something of an anachronism, but who knows--

perhaps he will perform functions I haven't imagined-helping Andy Pandy mend the holey strips, lending his dog collar to Fr. Rae for the hospitality sermons, visiting the sick and ailing relatives of the squad-there must be hundreds of uses for a Football Club Chaplain in 2008.

Mind you, with the pace of change those days, to say nothing of the credit crunch, I hope he hasn't been given a long contract.
mortonjag 2008-08-11 19:54:25
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 11 2008, 07:34 PM) [snapback]493070[/snapback]
Ach well..not everyone is as familiar with the terms so just making sure we were on the right track wink.gif

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That's the style young man. If you're sure of your facts, let others benefit from your knowledge!

One caveat-they won't listen. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-11 19:58:38
QUOTE(stuart @ Aug 11 2008, 07:28 PM) [snapback]493064[/snapback]
I didn't say I reckoned that he "threw it" at all. Just that in the end I reckon he will look back at the first round singles elimination and say that that aided him in winning the doubles gold smile.gif

Mummy can always melt it down to pay for her next botox treatment.
mortonjag 2008-08-11 20:08:03 I've had many a danger walk, but fortunately never came to much harm. Top floor flats up unlit s*** strewn closes in Feegie used to make me a bit nervy, as did 'tinker' caravan sites with more Rotweilers/Alsatians than residents. Perhaps the worst of all was up the aisle-the danger was well disguised at the time.
mortonjag 2008-08-11 20:15:54
QUOTE(piehutt @ Aug 11 2008, 07:55 PM) [snapback]493079[/snapback]
We'll do well to take 1000.

2000 is pie in the sky mate for a Tuesday night in the 2nd round of a diddy cup.

Motherwell was a Saturday, after a massive home victory in the last 16 of the Scottish Cup.

Aye-right son-we had, if I re-call, 106,000 at Hampden for the final of your 'diddy' cup. We NEED good cup runs this year, and we NEED some belief-not negativity boys! laugh.gif

QUOTE(Toby @ Aug 11 2008, 07:56 PM) [snapback]493080[/snapback]
Wouldn't say it's pie in the sky. We brought a right good crowd to Tannadice a few years ago and Edinburgh's certainly more accessible from Greenock.

Nothing would surprise me. Take the last game of last season-WTF did they all come from?
We'll get between 2000 and 3000 through!
mortonjag 2008-08-11 20:21:43
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Aug 11 2008, 08:15 PM) [snapback]493085[/snapback]
What the f*** is tennis doing at the olympics anyway. Sport for nonces.

Indeed, and WTF are professionals allowed to compete at at amateur event? dry.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-11 20:40:41
QUOTE(stuart @ Aug 11 2008, 08:24 PM) [snapback]493094[/snapback]
The Olympics would have died long ago if they hadn't let professionals compete.

....best thing that could have happened to the political showcase.

QUOTE(briggsTON @ Aug 11 2008, 08:24 PM) [snapback]493095[/snapback]
It hasn't been an amateur event for many years.

I believe that's one reason why it's now a non event.
mortonjag 2008-08-11 20:46:58
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 11 2008, 08:17 PM) [snapback]493089[/snapback]
Was more just giving our wee SPARROT a hand in the explanation rather than sharing my knowledge...as I will probably get shown up rather quickly!

He's my wee VikingTON again! He's a good chap.
mortonjag 2008-08-11 20:49:19
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 11 2008, 08:28 PM) [snapback]493098[/snapback]
Regrettably, at my age, I have little left to flash other than my headlights!

F*ck!!

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PS Radio Scotland went missing for about 10 minutes around 4:55pm I was seriously worried I would miss the Morton match report!

Indeed-we were effin' ragin' but it came on again JUST in time! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-11 20:52:24
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 11 2008, 08:41 PM) [snapback]493105[/snapback]
I think the older you get i.e. the closer shuffling off the mortal coil & all that, the more religion seems like something you've missed in your life. Me, I don't approve of that medieval sh1t even if I am getting to the doubting age ! I don't mind its adherents doing their own thing - they might be right and I am wrong - but I hate it when its shoved down everyone else's throat!

Will Kieran McAnespie be in breach of contract the first time he misses morning prayers?
mortonjag 2008-08-11 20:57:35
QUOTE(giz @ Aug 11 2008, 12:33 PM) [snapback]492848[/snapback]
In aid of MacMillan Cancer care

Morton supporters club

Friday 22nd August 2008

Question & answer session

Bill Leckie
Des McKeown
Davie Irons

7.30pm til late

Admission £5

All travel sections/clubs will receive some tickets so please contact one of them or myself if you would like to attend

cheers

John

Question for Bill and Des-will you be giving our cup tie against Hibs coverage in your columns, and if not, why not? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 07:00:53
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 11 2008, 09:10 PM) [snapback]493122[/snapback]
Are you coming through to Greenock for this Fundraiser ??

Given that this will be a GENUINE Q & A 'rally', and not a 'Come and be ignored/insulted by a dithering old Fud' show, I am contemplating a visit, Willy Man! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 07:07:13
QUOTE(chris_mceleny @ Aug 12 2008, 12:30 AM) [snapback]493216[/snapback]
Damn I wish I had have done some trivial accounts course or mickey mouse degree after I left school instead of opting for a real job!

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QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 12 2008, 12:34 AM) [snapback]493220[/snapback]
Or you could have did it at school then got the "real" job. happy.gif

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QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 12 2008, 12:55 AM) [snapback]493226[/snapback]
Don't make me get the stats out...

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mortonjag 2008-08-12 07:32:50
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Aug 11 2008, 09:40 PM) [snapback]493147[/snapback]
A chaplain is all well and good, but where is the Catholic, Jewish or miscellaneous alternative? Time to go Dougie! ph34r.gif

I'm not sure to which particular brand of holiness Rev. Dave belongs. Surely our posters must know who he is!!!

QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 12 2008, 01:22 AM) [snapback]493233[/snapback]
This is a wind-up, right? unsure.gif

Not the Chaplain part-his post may of course be wholly voluntary to avoid admission charges. Like its mice, church men are poor. God loves a trier!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 07:44:26
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 12 2008, 04:04 AM) [snapback]493238[/snapback]
Gidday VaderTon,

Would that be Benny Mussolini ?

Was he related to Benny Hill or Chuck Benny ?

I think he played for Inter Milan during La Grande Inter from 1960 to 1968.

Under that great coach, Helenio Herrera, and they won the European Cup against Real Madrid and then Benfica.

There was report in the Telegraph that Benny Ronney tried to sign Benny Mussolini, when he retired from Serie A, but in the 1970s there were not enough Tally restaurants in Greenock, to satisfy Mussolini.

(My apologies if Tally is politically incorrect these days.)

There was Tally who sold great ice cream in 1960 in Roxburgh Street, not far from Sugar Rae's wee sweetie shop.

Those were the days.

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The two Tally restaurants in Kilmacolm were Baldi's, and Jannetta's (Jonnie's).

Baldi's was a better coffee house and Jonnie made better ice cream.

There's still a traditional Tally ice-cream parlour round the corner here-Newlands Cafe-which I recommend highly. It has retained all the old characteristics, including the fags/cigars, specialist chocolate bars, and jars of sweeties. When you order ice cream, they still ask if you want 'raspberry' on it. They're open from early morning till about ten p.m. I don't know how they make a living with the surrounding competition, but good luck to them!
mortonjag 2008-08-12 07:53:55
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 12 2008, 04:10 AM) [snapback]493240[/snapback]
more importantly, did someone apparently lie about his taking 40% of the share issue ?
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The share issue was officially registered at Companies house exactly a week before Mr Donald was appointed a director of the Club. mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 08:02:58
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 12 2008, 07:44 AM) [snapback]493256[/snapback]
laugh.gif Maybe they'll take a collection, after the hymn singing of course. 'What a friend I have in Jesus, He's a Morton fan like me'.

I feel a parody coming on!
mortonjag 2008-08-12 08:06:05
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 12 2008, 07:38 AM) [snapback]493255[/snapback]
Then you must make yourself known as I'm sure lots of folk will be interested in meeting you. biggrin.gif Me for one.

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QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 12 2008, 07:54 AM) [snapback]493261[/snapback]
laugh.gif Maybe he should stay incognito, he might steal the show otherwise.

If I attend, I shall be sure not to bring the Monkey and Fing, and I shall disguise myself suitably!
mortonjag 2008-08-12 08:10:19 Their small fan base has every right to relish what may be their biggest achievement all season.
mortonjag 2008-08-12 08:20:10
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 11 2008, 09:29 PM) [snapback]493131[/snapback]
Nowt to do with me. As they say on 'Dragon's Den', "I'm out".

I'm a former tennis player and a fan and I know that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

WTF is it Dragon's DEN! unsure.gif Dragons fly-everybody knows fliers nestle.

I have an absolutely clear idea that I'm talking about- a 'Vaulting Ambition' exhibition at Wombledung, which went slightly awry, perhaps not quite o'er leaping itself.

The Brits won't be too chuffed if those latter day Grecian gymnastics DO mean a jot or tittle in the real world!

QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 12 2008, 04:18 AM) [snapback]493242[/snapback]
Come on mortonjag, surely you don't believe that the gold medals are made of gold.

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It's a TOTAL sham then! Fing told me that, but the Monkey disagreed.
mortonjag 2008-08-12 08:25:17
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 12 2008, 12:00 AM) [snapback]493210[/snapback]
That site is complete bollocks - not too dissimilar to many of Nostradamus' "predictions".
Its a bit simplistic to take current events and contort them to fit 500 year-old vague quatrains.

I like simplicity-particularly in the use of plain English! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 08:28:28
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 12 2008, 04:31 AM) [snapback]493246[/snapback]
There seems to be bugger all interest in Beijing.

I expect London will be an even greater waste of money.

Saturday's Herald Weekend Sport devoted several pages to the bloody Wollympic Games and didn't even MENTION a single SFL match.

I have told the sports editor what I think of him. ph34r.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 08:32:19
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 12 2008, 04:24 AM) [snapback]493244[/snapback]
Gidday Trick,

I didn't know that you could ride.

Do you have your own horse ?

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Trick only rides as a hobby.
mortonjag 2008-08-12 08:51:45
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 12 2008, 08:13 AM) [snapback]493273[/snapback]
Take your medication then. Anyway, you started it. biggrin.gif

I took it-I'm going to Limerick instead.

Apparently Rev. David Hall
Met DDFR in the Mall
Adorned in Ton scarf
The rest makes me barf
Indeed I have now heard it all!
mortonjag 2008-08-12 08:56:58
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Aug 12 2008, 08:51 AM) [snapback]493283[/snapback]
We had around 2,000 at Tannadice and Edinburgh's far easier to get to and Hibs are more appealing. 2,000's a conservative estimate. What planet are you on, Piehutt? blink.gif

Uranus (heid up).
mortonjag 2008-08-12 09:02:12
QUOTE(Staples @ Aug 12 2008, 08:37 AM) [snapback]493281[/snapback]
sorry if its not allowed to post this link im interested in peoples opinions?
http://www.scottishindependenceconvention.com/index.asp

I want it and I want it NOW!

PS-Bawheid is a tosser.
mortonjag 2008-08-12 09:49:12
QUOTE(HamCam @ Aug 11 2008, 09:46 PM) [snapback]493155[/snapback]
Tut tut paper clip warrier hibernation not hybernation. This also accords with the CIS draw.

Anyhows I have now emerged from the cryogenic chamber a new me. No more pithy comments and puerile humour just mature reasoned debate on the main issues that affect the world today. Must go now to start a thread on sustainability or maybe erectile dysfunction in goats not sure yet.



of?

within?
mortonjag 2008-08-12 09:54:07
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 12 2008, 09:34 AM) [snapback]493291[/snapback]
Interesting, there's nine teachers in my department.

Only one did the school, Uni, school route.

Dr Bam-not one of the teachers I know is a chemist, though many shop in Boots.

QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 12 2008, 09:36 AM) [snapback]493292[/snapback]
Boots or shoes?

Either-indeed one boot and one shoe for the unilateral below knee amputees.
mortonjag 2008-08-12 09:57:32
QUOTE(Alibi @ Aug 12 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]493296[/snapback]
And there we have a slogan for the next Labour leadership campaign...

HOVIS- the 'COMING HOME' bread! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 10:25:29
QUOTE(larmton @ Aug 11 2008, 11:05 PM) [snapback]493192[/snapback]
haha yes

LARMTON IS A POUFFE



I repeat!

LARMTON IS A POUFFE



...and in case those on POUFFE alert are dozy this morning.....



LARMTON IS A POUFFE


Indeed, Larmton is a three piece pouffe!


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mortonjag 2008-08-12 10:30:21
QUOTE(leyTON @ Aug 12 2008, 10:16 AM) [snapback]493304[/snapback]
i concur, and for the non edinburgh based
supporters buses leaving a while early, few pints
cant see a nightclub opening that early though :S

Night clubs by definition open late on, LeyTON.

ARU 18?

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mortonjag 2008-08-12 10:36:55
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 12 2008, 10:09 AM) [snapback]493299[/snapback]
A hobby horse then?

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I loved watching Perry Mason in the good old days of innocent entertainment when men were men, boys were boys, and a pouffe was something to rest your feet upon.
mortonjag 2008-08-12 11:03:28 I'm probably not allowed to comment as I'm not a film buff, but I really enjoyed 'The Love Bug'----that and 'Mrs Doubtfire', push slightly ahead of 'The Sound of Music'.

Tommy Steele was brilliant in 'Tommy the Toreador', and 'The Sting' has a very good theme choon.

I have NEVER watched a film for a second time, though I've often read the Bible.
mortonjag 2008-08-12 11:08:51
QUOTE(leyTON @ Aug 12 2008, 11:00 AM) [snapback]493325[/snapback]
i am aware of that, but as manager, scott would have considerable influence i would say
and i am, as of Sunday
i was only kidding midtons. Ill bring down Sweet Sixteen on dvd we can all watch the finale wink.gif

Bloody hell son-just turned eighteen and you have a personal manager. I like his name though-I have a son whose middle name is Scott.
mortonjag 2008-08-12 11:12:24
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 12 2008, 10:59 AM) [snapback]493324[/snapback]
Can't wait until the usual shout of get the subs on is replaced by bring on the Chaplain .

Pity he didn't come to the Renny Cup Final he could have dowse some holy water on the midden fans .

He was sitting beside Fr Rae at the shoot out, during which the former was touching cloth.
mortonjag 2008-08-12 12:45:36
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 12 2008, 11:06 AM) [snapback]493331[/snapback]
(adorns Morton blinkers ) Coincidence unsure.gif

Its nice to know Companies House has eventually got their paperwork sorted rolleyes.gif


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Just to clarify the details. The share issue was documented at Companies House on 24/06/08.

Mr Donald became a designated Director on 23/07/08, having stated his date of appointment as a Director as of 1/07/08.

That certainly leaves some unanswered questions, as Mr Donald revealed exclusively to the 'Tilly' in mid January than he had 'joined the Board', and from February has been listed as a Director on official Club publications.

So far as I'm led to believe, he could have stated an earlier date appointment with an explanation for the late submission of the statutory form 288a, which, in any case, could have been completed on line anywhere in the world , and forwarded, signed, to Companies House for manual processing!

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mortonjag 2008-08-12 12:55:43
QUOTE(leyTON @ Aug 12 2008, 11:48 AM) [snapback]493349[/snapback]
i am a busy man
Scott works alongside my agent, my pa and my personal trainer(who seems ineffective)

Do they have nice names too? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 13:05:23
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 12 2008, 11:34 AM) [snapback]493341[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif

Another good man taken .

Taken, abused, and discarded when no longer deemed an asset!

Things are better now! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 13:10:36 laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

I just realised Rev Dave is one of our esteemed posters! Could this be our new official Club Chaplain, and if so, has he signed the official secrets act (Scapa Version)? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 13:52:52 I reckon Kelvin Hall's definitely nearer-just go in through the University Gate on Dumbarton Rd., and you're virtually in the park.
mortonjag 2008-08-12 13:58:37 It's FAR too complex Chris. Every case is unique. Women should NOT be victimised simply because they were intoxicated.

There is, however, a downside, in that intoxicated women are less inhibited and may well send out messages which they subsequently regret.

Anyway, there's no simple black and white answer IMO.
mortonjag 2008-08-12 14:04:14
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Aug 12 2008, 01:54 PM) [snapback]493405[/snapback]
depends which side of the park you want to be at

kelvinbridge station is basically IN the park (far north of it) so I would say it is closer

although the best bit of the park is probably closer to the south

Surely not-it's on Great Western Road-how far North does the park extend?
mortonjag 2008-08-12 14:15:16
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Aug 12 2008, 01:18 PM) [snapback]493387[/snapback]
Seeing I've been gone for a while and this was the first time I'd seen a few players I was quite impressed.

Neither Cuthbert, Shimmin or McManus seem totally match fit. All a bit rusty but only Cuthbert concerned me with a few drops. But he gathered them all at the second attempt so I'm hoping he'll be fine in a week or two. Shimmin looks a bit slow but not afraid to take the ball down and look for a pass and McManus was always shouting, encouraging and all the things you expect an experienced centre back to do.

Masterton was great. His deliveries were s*** hot and seemed the only midfielder we had with the ability to pass the ball forwards. Big Erik was a bit disappointing but mopped up well. Newby made some stoating runs and I think he'd compliment anyone he played upfront with but his control always seemed to let the defenders get back into posistion while he took his time over every pass/shot he got away.

McGuffie's best game for Morton.

What did you think of Iain's performance?

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mortonjag 2008-08-12 14:17:41
QUOTE(centralTON @ Aug 12 2008, 01:30 PM) [snapback]493396[/snapback]
F.A.O. anyone driving to Stenny for the 'Shire game.
I've just driven through Larbert and there is bad traffic congestion on the A9 Larbert turnoff from the motorway roundabout. It would be better to take the A88 Stenhousemuir turnoff avoiding the jams.
The A9 road is the site of the new Forth Valley Hospital, work has been ongoing for a while and these things take time.
Hope this helps.

Cut off before Stenny and head to the Ground through Stenny Main Street?
mortonjag 2008-08-12 14:21:51
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Aug 12 2008, 02:16 PM) [snapback]493418[/snapback]
Was referring to religion wink.gif

Rev Dave may disagree!
mortonjag 2008-08-12 14:26:15
QUOTE(binnie @ Aug 12 2008, 02:20 PM) [snapback]493423[/snapback]
IS The Game Tonight

NO!!!



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mortonjag 2008-08-12 14:33:29
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Aug 12 2008, 02:08 PM) [snapback]493413[/snapback]
I understand where you are coming from but rape is rape.

That is correct- but the modus operandi, and the circumstances surrounding individual cases of 'rape' vary immensely, despite a nominal commission of the 'same' crime.

Most murderers are first offenders in a domestic situation. Do we equate them with the Sutcliffes and Shipmans?
mortonjag 2008-08-12 14:37:11
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 12 2008, 02:20 PM) [snapback]493422[/snapback]
And you're fond of a non sequitur it seems.

I have never been into gardening.
mortonjag 2008-08-12 14:47:32 Some folk are so bloody precious-I'd NEVER vote against anybody, and I just wish more of the cowardly clypes who give/gave me a hard time with the other mods were on this level playing field! dry.gif

The Jessie boys are becoming muted-no harm in new blood I say!
mortonjag 2008-08-12 15:27:34
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Aug 12 2008, 02:52 PM) [snapback]493437[/snapback]
Why put rape in quotes? It suggests there are more than one type, maybe a lesser type of rape. If that's what you are inferring I disagree.

Do I equate first time murderers with the Sutcliffes and Shipmans? When it comes to murder I would concede that there are crimes of passion that do not equate to the crimes of serial killers.

So rape=rape=rape, but you concede to different types of murder!

What are we talking about? Dictionary definitions just won't do for one and not the other.

It's historically well documented that procuring a fair conviction in cases of alleged rape is fraught with difficulties, and that the circumstances in individual cases vary immensely. Most cases are decided on circumstantial evidence and balance of probability rather than eye witness accounts.

'Rape'-no apology for the inverted commas- is one of the least safe convictions in the legal catalogue.

From a moral viewpoint I TOTALLY agree that no woman should be disadvantaged sexually against her will, but the manner in which that is all too frequently done is a function of culpability on a massive sliding scale.
mortonjag 2008-08-12 15:33:50
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Aug 12 2008, 02:59 PM) [snapback]493442[/snapback]
to GWR as far as I know - I am sure thats where the signs for the park are when you are coming from great western road

the park isn't up to much until you walk under gibson street mind you

Ah-I see where you're coming from-you can walk along the banks of the Kelvin from just below the Station, but you're not in the Park proper for-I'd estimate well over half a mile. I reckon four or five hundred yards from Kelvin Hall takes you into the S West end.
mortonjag 2008-08-12 15:47:46
QUOTE(larmton @ Aug 12 2008, 03:21 PM) [snapback]493449[/snapback]
harsh mj
real harsh.

OK

LARMTON IS A CHAISE LONGUE
mortonjag 2008-08-12 15:55:50 ........claims Bill Leckie in today's Scottish Sun. I reckon it's a controversial, but interesting read, and I can't find a bloody link.

One of his statements---


...so just as failures become passes, just as the unemployed become job seekers and bank clerks become account managers, colleges become universities. Diplomas become degrees.....etc.
mortonjag 2008-08-12 16:06:01
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 12 2008, 03:59 PM) [snapback]493473[/snapback]
Ah, the msguided truth of the exam system.
Perhaps The Sun (continuing from its diatribes yesterday) would like to consider why certain exams ie Accouns had their pass rate reduced to 45%, rather than spewing the usual ignorant pish.

Bill Leckie has commented on that exception.

Why don't you read the whole article and then decide whether or not it's ignorant pish?
mortonjag 2008-08-12 16:11:32
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 12 2008, 03:56 PM) [snapback]493471[/snapback]
For once I 100% agree with you.

It had to happen at some point!

Incidentally, my younger son works for the SCCRC-(one of the three who worked on the Megrahi case), and we've discussed 'rape' convictions/mis-trials several times.

Strathclyde graduate BTW! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 16:19:53
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 12 2008, 03:16 PM) [snapback]493447[/snapback]
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Got any more?

A 'pee the bed' by any other name is still a Pis en Lit.
mortonjag 2008-08-12 16:24:04
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Aug 12 2008, 03:57 PM) [snapback]493472[/snapback]
Manpower just messed a few of our team over in IBM by pulling our enhanced support team from one of their desks. Unfortunately i am one of these few...

tongue.gif anyone looking for an experienced IT analyst to work for them....willing to work in Georgia if the price is right

Hey thrax-following on Skunk Leckie's comments in today's Sun-is an experienced IT analyst an office cleaner? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 16:26:25
QUOTE(Rossco @ Aug 12 2008, 04:23 PM) [snapback]493485[/snapback]
He is spot on this evident by the amount of people who go to Uni when they really shouldn't be.

If I could give advice to anyone leaving school now it would be to give Uni/College as miss as its hard finding a job once you have bit of paper saying you are qualified.

Has Kermit declined the offer from Oxford (the Monkey asks)?
mortonjag 2008-08-12 16:29:10
QUOTE(simple_ton @ Aug 12 2008, 03:55 PM) [snapback]493469[/snapback]
Cadbury's Ice Breaker anyone? A chocolate bar with minty bits through it, came in a light blue wrapper
Mint cracknell?
Old Jamaica - is that still available?
Texan bars - sure is a mighty chew!

The rum/raisin flavoured choc bars-brilliant. Certainly bought some a year or so back!
mortonjag 2008-08-12 16:33:58
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Aug 12 2008, 04:04 PM) [snapback]493478[/snapback]
I hardly ever vote on these forums tbh.

Dont get me started on this Independence pish mind you happy.gif

I wouldn't dream of it Sir.

My opinions were probably coloured by my need to preserve my salary too, but in my happy retirement I can think and say just what I please!


Boozehound is POUFFE of the week and I'd love to shag him. wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 16:41:56
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 12 2008, 04:39 PM) [snapback]493497[/snapback]
Dutch guy in my team applies for a few days holiday, I was going to approve it, until I read the next part.

'Can I request the 22nd August off, my boyfriend is over for the weekend and we are looking forward to a dirty weekend off'


Dirty b*****d I thought, your getting no fecking holiday.

Needless to say I declined his holiday request, just for putting those thoughts in my mind.

Does this make me homophobic?

Sean-unless you're totally 'at it' it makes you daft for publicising the information-remember the walls have ears.
mortonjag 2008-08-12 16:47:47
QUOTE(Rossco @ Aug 12 2008, 04:31 PM) [snapback]493494[/snapback]
Yes was holding out for cambridge.

It's hardly a leap up the pecking order! laugh.gif

QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 12 2008, 04:39 PM) [snapback]493498[/snapback]
Fortunately enough a pleb has The Sun nearby. smile.gif
The general point of rewarding success appears to be somewhat loosely linked to the primary argument.
The pass mark is determined (as far as I'm aware) by panels who analyse the exam set and determine whether it was harder/easier than the previous ones.
A straightforward exam will see the pass limit conversely rise above 50%.
The only straightforward method of guaranteeing a 50% pass rate and uniform difficulty would be to set practically the same exam each and every year - then you'd see a major "improvement" in pass marks.
The main issue has to be with the Standard Grade, which is practically a bomb-proof pass for the vast majority and therefore has little net worth on its own and is detatched from the significant jump in difficulty at Higher.

How do you define a 'Pleb'. If it's somebody who reads the Sun, mortonjag is a self confessed pleb!
mortonjag 2008-08-12 16:50:12
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Aug 12 2008, 04:40 PM) [snapback]493499[/snapback]
laugh.gif no no...im a real IT analysts...answer phones...lie alot...im basically a fully trained lawyer in that respect

You mean a senior executive IT station operative?
mortonjag 2008-08-12 16:57:28
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 12 2008, 04:46 PM) [snapback]493504[/snapback]
McAnespie undoubtedly has the ability. Its his head needs sorting and if anyone can do it David Irons can as I have a high regard for his man management and motivation skills. We are a bit short on left sided players and if I thought he could be straightened out, I would keep him!

Time will tell-maybe moving Jamie out on loan was a piece of skilful man-management-maybe not. It's not as if Davie's just in the door last week!

I dislike rumours about players and their 'attitudes' but I do re-call vividly we had several not too happy posters when we signed McAnespie.

I'm sure Mr Rae will be bitterly grudging that one! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 17:02:30
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 12 2008, 04:44 PM) [snapback]493503[/snapback]
I doubt very much if anyone in my Dutch team has access to this 'The Jesse Ventura Tobacco Chewing Forum' never mind even reading the www.greenockmorton.org

Anyway who cares, I told him the reason anyway.. rolleyes.gif No doubt he is in at HR now laugh.gif

Hmm! unsure.gif

QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 12 2008, 04:49 PM) [snapback]493510[/snapback]
I think you're just jealous and fancy him, if you can't have him then no one can!

don't think you rejecting his holiday claim is homophobic, i just think you're getting a tad large for that closet.

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mortonjag 2008-08-12 17:31:20
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 12 2008, 05:24 PM) [snapback]493532[/snapback]
From Dear Deidre today:
What would the doctor advise? blush.gif

laugh.gif

Well if the poor soul's daft enough to write to Deirdre about a possible hormonal problem-he's probably too daft to take medical advice!

Mine?

Bilateral mastectomy with a blunt cleaver. The residual macho scarring will have daft bitches falling over each other to hump him/her/it.
mortonjag 2008-08-12 17:41:34 Just had a p.m. from Poppo Coeyman.

Jag, you've helped me before on this Ton forum. I've got that Sean over a barrel now, and I'm tempted to give him the full works-what do you advise?


He's agreed to keep quiet on the understanding that 'you owe him one'.
mortonjag 2008-08-12 18:14:02
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 12 2008, 06:07 PM) [snapback]493542[/snapback]
Did you not know he was a pouffe ? No handbag or make up wearing .... The dirty b*****d !!

Whats the difference what this dutch guy does in his holidays . I have thought that you'd rather he was off while your at work .

Could you have deep down homosexual tendencies you are frightened that will now come to the fore unsure.gif .
Give the pouffe a break

and a chew at your Kit Kat.
mortonjag 2008-08-12 19:59:23
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Aug 12 2008, 06:32 PM) [snapback]493554[/snapback]
Sorry I just don't see McAnespie fitting into our current set-up. DI's style is to move the ball forward quickly and get player's charging forward with power and pace. All our midfielders and forwards now seem to fit that description.

McAnespie is just too pedestrian for that style of play. He'll stand and wait for the ball to come to him and try to stroke it around, which is okay in a team who are content to sit back and retain possession.

This IMO is the reason Weatherson isn't really in the picture up front, and McAnespie's surplus to requirements.

That suggests to me that you believe DI has no 'plan B'.
mortonjag 2008-08-12 20:02:57
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Aug 12 2008, 06:47 PM) [snapback]493557[/snapback]
Some good points there, I agree about Masterton, first time I've seen him in a Ton jersey and I was impressed. I thought the way he always insisted on passing the ball no matter how tight or difficult the situation was showed an excellent attitude, even more so that he always passed it forward. Shimmin did similar albiet it's not quite so hard back there. I thought Russell looked a bit of a menace as well.

Masterton has been a valuable acquisition, and once he develops more consistency and accuracy with those deliveries, we'll start to score more goals.
mortonjag 2008-08-12 20:07:32
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Aug 12 2008, 07:09 PM) [snapback]493563[/snapback]
This is all nonsense, but I don't really have the time or interest to spell out the correct position. For example, why would Morton want youth training facilities on a school day? You won't find anyone on here who knows the legal position Jackie. Why don't you approach the Council or, heaven forbid, Morton FC?

Too busy applying lotion to the scrotum again! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 20:11:43 You can get your point over quite simply without upsetting or offending people. I do it all the time.
mortonjag 2008-08-12 20:17:55
QUOTE(stuart @ Aug 12 2008, 07:51 PM) [snapback]493582[/snapback]
I hope hamilton have a miserable season. I don't understand all the well-wishing for them after the Craig Thompson incident last season.

Talking of which I've sent ANOTHER letter to the SFA today-this time directly to Gordon Smith and by recorded delivery. I shall report back in due course. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 20:20:58
QUOTE(Magic Mathie @ Aug 12 2008, 08:01 PM) [snapback]493590[/snapback]
Go contracting it's way better than working as a permie - don't have to worry about reviews/company politics etc. Money is much much better too.

Does have it's downsides with no holiday/sickness pay and no pension but you'd earn more than enough money to compensate.

Once you've been contracting you don't look back!

I take it you've got a private pension sorted out. VERY important, especially those days.
mortonjag 2008-08-12 20:23:59
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 12 2008, 07:36 PM) [snapback]493574[/snapback]
You just want him in to 'Groom Him' for Pouffe sessions ohmy.gif

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You know me so well! thumbup2.gif thumbup2.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 20:31:41
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Aug 12 2008, 07:58 PM) [snapback]493587[/snapback]
Correction, you would have tried....or even tried to remember how to. rolleyes.gif

You seem to regard Willy Man as something of a flop! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 20:38:30 Imagine if WE were playing one of the OF tomorrow night and discovered it wasn't deemed worthy of discussion on their unofficial web site. There would be a 20 pager of abuse!

We COULD be beaten tomorrow-stranger things have happened, and JM might become quite animated for a few seconds after the final whistle.


For what it's worth, I believe we'll be much too strong for them, and I'm going for 3-0 with goals from Newby, Wakey, and Harding! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 20:43:10
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 12 2008, 08:26 PM) [snapback]493622[/snapback]
That must be statement of the year rolleyes.gif

Do I sense a hint of sarcasm? angel.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 20:46:23
QUOTE(Magic Mathie @ Aug 12 2008, 08:30 PM) [snapback]493625[/snapback]
Yeah, I've 10 years of a Group Final salary and started a stakeholder about 7 years ago. IMO I think just putting money into an ISA every year is a better way to save for the future than todays pension plans.

Nothing's ever guaranteed with MUNNY! The main thing is that you're making a substantial provision, as I believe when you reach retirement age, the state pension (for what it's worth) will have gone completely, and the NHS will be virtually non-existent in its present form.
mortonjag 2008-08-12 20:56:29
QUOTE(Toby @ Aug 12 2008, 08:47 PM) [snapback]493645[/snapback]
Was actually speaking to the Queens Park under 17s coach today (they beat Morton 6-1 at the Battery on Sunday) and he didn't exactly give a glowing report on his first impressions of Morton's youth set up.

He described a lot of the boys as looking as though they had beer bellys and the team in general as the poorest they've played in a long time, whilst there seemed to be very little organisation in the coaching staff. Bearing in mind that players at under 17 level should be the sort of guys pushing themselves into the limelight for the first team in the not so distant future he couldn't believe Morton had such an unprofessional approach.

I accept that bringing in boys is the only approach that Queens' can take, given their amatuer status, but how can things there be so far ahead of at Morton? Yes, there are the facilities at Hampden, but surely the main factor in a club's youth set up should be the people that are employed to operate it.

Could it be Rae's dismissive approach to youth development that was there for all to see at the Q & A?

This old chestnut keeps coming up. Every time I read about the 'Youth Set Up' I become MORE confused. Look at what bloody Hamilton have achieved!

I bet there's not a single soul who contributes to this massage board who can spell out clearly and concisely how the 'system' is operated laugh.gif (from the oldest down to the youngest players).

SHAMBLES is the accurate description of the inner workings at Morton. That has NOT changed just because we've replaced a numpty with a Manager.
mortonjag 2008-08-12 21:15:27
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 12 2008, 09:02 PM) [snapback]493665[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

as well you know, the 'share issue' was 'documented' at 'companies house' on 18/06/08 having been notified on 7 May 2008

if you're going to 'clarify' the 'details' you really ought to clarify them all laugh.gif

so what you're trying to say is that director designate alistair donald was not a designated director until he was no longer a director designate having been designated a director by companies house?

and you still don't know what's in his handbag laugh.gif

Complete and utter bollocks!

Trumpington and Greenfield are only eighty miles or so apart. Why don't YOU pop over and compare the contents of his handbag with those of your own, Alistair? rolleyes.gif


BTW I recommend lactulose 15 mls t.i.d for the next week or so. That huge keech of yours must be bursting through your silk drawers. You'll be able to think much more clearly when you've seen it off! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 21:18:20
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 12 2008, 08:47 PM) [snapback]493646[/snapback]
i think we'll be abducted by aliens - during extra time

Dream on Alistair! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 21:24:46
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 12 2008, 09:10 PM) [snapback]493675[/snapback]
it's retired doctors i feel sorry for

It IS retired doctors Alistair?

This retired doctor is beginning to feel genuinely sorry for you.

Feel free to p.m. me at any time for a wee chat, counselling, or a professional assessment of your mental state.

In reality I'm extremely understanding and helpful, as over a score of posters can testify! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 21:38:28
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 12 2008, 09:20 PM) [snapback]493691[/snapback]
i think the exam system always has been and continues to be harsh - consider poor moronjag: brain the size of a small asteroid and all he gets is three undergraduate degrees from a provincial university

mind you, quoting from the sun ...

I'm always amused by those who attempt to belittle readers of tabloid rags like the Sun-especially by those who seem to know all there is to know about their defects without ever having set eyes on one, Alistair!


Mortonjag has MANY qualifications in addition to his three little degrees from the 'provincial' university'-and FFS don't let Spurtle spot that comment!

The University of Life is the only TRUE UNIVERSITY.

Incidentally Alistair, you're quite a secretive little fellah. I've managed to piece together a few details about you, but they are probably quite incorrect!

One of my brothers has a 'first' from Oxford, and was singularly unimpressed by the place. Like yourself he attended the good old Academy of Greenock Town! Good grief-I'd imagine he must be just about your age-indeed you may know him, and he, you! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 21:43:45
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 12 2008, 09:28 PM) [snapback]493699[/snapback]
i'm losing my faith in you :(

please look at the companies house barcode sticker on the egm notice. you may need to ask a responsible adult to explain what it means

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


You're letting your guard slip Alistair. I think it's either time to come out or shut up! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 22:12:55
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 12 2008, 10:01 PM) [snapback]493730[/snapback]
so, no responsible adult within hailing distance?

NO.
mortonjag 2008-08-12 22:17:40
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 12 2008, 09:45 PM) [snapback]493713[/snapback]
No, although it is clear to see you have failed the literacy test. blush.gif

laugh.gif

Don't cross swords with Alistair, young man-he'll have you believing two and two make nine before you're a day older.

He HAS been offered counselling! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 22:19:43
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 12 2008, 09:11 PM) [snapback]493678[/snapback]
wipe your disk, start again and promise to behave smile.gif

rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 22:24:03
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 12 2008, 09:53 PM) [snapback]493721[/snapback]
we really ought to draw a veil over our adolescent fumblings wub.gif

although he did say that his brother was less well endowed laugh.gif

He has four brothers, Alistair. smile.gif

mortonjag 2008-08-12 22:26:24
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 12 2008, 10:05 PM) [snapback]493732[/snapback]
it are retired doctors i feel sorry for

Are it indeed? Very good-I'm off to speak with the Jessie Boys. You don't post there perchance? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 22:31:36
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 12 2008, 08:36 PM) [snapback]493631[/snapback]
Do you find it impossible not to look down the cleavage of a woman dressed in a low cut top ?


NO-it's a learned technique to look her straight in the eye while still taking in the rest!

Have you ever been caught looking down a womans cleavage ?



NOPE!

QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 12 2008, 09:00 PM) [snapback]493662[/snapback]
why do women wear low cut tops and dresses if they don't want guys to look? its their own fault and its precisely why they wear it in the first place.

If i went out wearing arseless jeans i wouldnt complain and get upset if someone looked at my arse, i'd realise im an idiot who got exactly what was coming to me.

Exactly-'look at my lovely tits' is what they're saying, and when you don't, you immediately gain the psychological advantage! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-12 22:39:34
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 12 2008, 10:30 PM) [snapback]493743[/snapback]
Weird thing happened on Sunday when walking down the stairs in my folks close.

Just as we got to the bottom of the 2nd last flight of stairs I noticed the wall on the left hand side of the landing had about a dozen largish flies stuck on it, I then turned round and the wall on the right hand side had even more and the wall dividing the two sets of stairs also had some on it.

They were surreal looking just stuck there DEAD !!!

The walls were brushed down, however the next night I discovered another couple stuck to the dividing wall.

Anyone else ever come across this sort of strange thing ??

The Raes are purportedly dead fly.
mortonjag 2008-08-13 07:34:44
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 12 2008, 10:46 PM) [snapback]493749[/snapback]
i hope this web site has the appropriate indemnity insurance laugh.gif

Dead men cannot sue, Alistair.
mortonjag 2008-08-13 07:38:05
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 12 2008, 11:14 PM) [snapback]493765[/snapback]
Who died and made you 'Morale Officer'?

I see Smeggy's in a tetchy mood.

QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 12 2008, 11:26 PM) [snapback]493774[/snapback]
i think celtic will beat us 4-1. scott mcdonald was supposed to be coming to us care of newton, wasn't he? huh.gif

Ask Newt, Alistair-perhaps he'll relate better to your thought processes. happy.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-13 07:41:59
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 12 2008, 09:19 PM) [snapback]493688[/snapback]
Being as short as I am it tends to happen smile.gif

Do you fancy Louise?
mortonjag 2008-08-13 07:48:01
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 13 2008, 01:34 AM) [snapback]493800[/snapback]
they still ask if you want 'raspberry' on it.
Gidday Mortonjag,

I had forgotten that.

Was it always "raspberry" or nothing ?


We would take a bowl down Roxburgh Street for 6 scoops of ice cream and "raspberry"

... and the old Tally would cover it with a sheeet of paper !!

to stop it melting ?

or to keep out Greenock pollution.

Every Sunday afternoon after attending Sunday School at the new West Kirk in Nelson Street.

In the good old days it was! I remember those squares of greaseproof paper too. By the time you got home the ice cream had always melted a bit and they required to be licked clean before disposal.

We use to break the bottom inch or so off the cone and make a second 'wee' cone, before sooking the ice cream out through the resultant hole in the original!!!

Did Freud partake of gelati? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-13 07:59:39
QUOTE(Cowshed Chris @ Aug 13 2008, 01:42 AM) [snapback]493804[/snapback]
Rae has no interest in the youth of the club. Short term goals to satisfy his ego are all he's concerned about - and he's even making an arse of that.

However, he DID save the club so he can run it any way he wants, even if it leaves us crippled for the foreseeable future huh.gif

'Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings' indeed CC! I've been trying to get that message over in my last 20,000 posts. Maybe they'll believe you! blush.gif

QUOTE(Toby @ Aug 13 2008, 04:30 AM) [snapback]493818[/snapback]
Insiders at the club such as Mabawsa and the laundry maid are never going to clarify situations. These people love to let everyone else know they're privvy to a little bit of information that the little people don't have. in their eye it gives them a bit of kudos they may not normally have. They were probably bullied at school.

I'd suggest it's slightly more involved. Those people clearly have the well recognised 'victim complex'. They court attention in a histrionic manner by always ensuring they have some ongoing bullying to complain and whine about. Cappielow is the ideal situation for those with 'victim complex'.

You are correct about the 'I know more than you but I'm not telling'. That's another common ruse used by inadequates, and totally different from preserving confidentiality. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-13 08:06:01
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 12 2008, 11:10 PM) [snapback]493763[/snapback]
Well, f***, we're all going to jail now.

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Off you pop Smeggy-you won't be missed.
mortonjag 2008-08-13 08:18:48
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 13 2008, 03:05 AM) [snapback]493815[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

Are you suggesting that the Ton has raised capital through an unregistered share issue ?

Will the SFL deduct points for that ?

sad.gif sad.gif

I'm suggesting nothing Newt, though the singular silence on this thread NOW is proof positive of the inherent decency dry.gif of my detractors and abusers. All I've done is ask a question, and persevere until I've got the answers.

Apologies and acknowledgement from weasels would merely be meaningless squeaking.

Alistair Donald became a Director of Greenock Morton nominally on July 1st. That was ratified later in July. There was NEVER any incompetence at Companies House. For some reason he chose that course. He certainly announced in January that he had joined the Board.


Did something piss him off in the interim? laugh.gif

Perhaps Crawford Rae was unaware that he could have completed form 288a on line.

I find it strange that a vastly experienced businessman of Mr Donald's pedigree apparently shared that possible ignorance.

Perhaps our new Director will see fit to answer the Trust's letter before Christmas! mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-13 08:36:20
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 13 2008, 07:41 AM) [snapback]493827[/snapback]
He maybe a certian Dutch guys boyfriend rolleyes.gif

...whose dirty week end has been cancelled by the powers that be? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-13 08:41:25
QUOTE(simple_ton @ Aug 12 2008, 11:29 PM) [snapback]493777[/snapback]
Talking of chocolate bars - does anyone remember Tunnock McNulty, who used to post on one of the old boards with tales of his amazing confectionery-inspired jobbies? laugh.gif

Conjures up memories of liquorice pipes.
mortonjag 2008-08-13 08:43:29
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 12 2008, 10:58 PM) [snapback]493756[/snapback]
you have difficulty discussing your feelings?

I prefer to keep my intimate secrets. mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-13 08:45:15
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 12 2008, 10:53 PM) [snapback]493753[/snapback]
do you have a private pension or one underwritten by the taxpayer?



Both.
mortonjag 2008-08-13 08:48:47
QUOTE(RedSoxBlueHoops @ Aug 13 2008, 01:22 AM) [snapback]493797[/snapback]
well I got off at Kelvinbridge and walked to the Art Gallery. Only took 5-10 minutes and was the first stop. If it's any quicker from Kelvinhall then it's minimal.

Kevinhall to Art Gallery would take less than five minutes brisk walk. Kelvinhall to the west end of the park-about three! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-13 08:51:36
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 13 2008, 07:50 AM) [snapback]493831[/snapback]
I thought you didn't believe in a higher authority.

Perhaps he meant demigods.
mortonjag 2008-08-13 08:53:27
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 13 2008, 07:49 AM) [snapback]493830[/snapback]
Barmy Prince Charlie has been spouting off again about the evils of multi national corporations, genetic engineering, deforestation etc. He reckons that if the world carries on in this direction we're all doomed and headed for a gigantic environmental disaster, so he wants to be 'counted out' of such wicked ways. All very well for this medieval relic to speak out, but maybe he'd be more credible if he renounced privilege and started handing back all the estates and possessions that he inherited from his thieving ancestors. Maybe then he could be counted in, but there's slim chance of that happening.

Why do semi-intelligent inbreds still get media coverage?
mortonjag 2008-08-13 09:02:06
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Aug 13 2008, 08:32 AM) [snapback]493850[/snapback]
We have laws on the books that state that if the victim is intoxicated/drugged up/otherwise incapacitated, and the sustpect/subject is not, then it's "rape" regardless if she said no or not. It's called "diminished capacity," and it goes on the assumption that the victim could not either say NO, could not get the point across, and/or had no wherewithall to resist. The suspect can be charged with rape itself, or the lesser "statutory rape," which is also what someone 18 and over will be charged with if they have sex with a child under 16 (for sex with teens 16-18, then over 21 can be charged with statutory rape).

The chances and stats show that if someone rapes/sodomizes, etc someone, it's either not their first vitim, or it won't be their last.

It does become very confusing! If she's incapable of distinguishing between 'no' and 'yes', 'Yes' is entirely unreliable! unsure.gif

On that basis, it's a potentially long stretch in the slammer for any man who shags a bird when she's pissed. JEEESUZ-I could be doing 100 years hard labour right now! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Truly the law is an ass!
mortonjag 2008-08-13 09:05:18
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 12 2008, 10:50 PM) [snapback]493752[/snapback]
he was referring to you

I shall confront him this evening on the way to Stenhousemuir. If he concurs with you, he will walk home.
mortonjag 2008-08-13 09:07:38
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Aug 13 2008, 12:42 AM) [snapback]493786[/snapback]
f***ing quality. wub.gif

So I'm told-my knob's tongue's hanging out!
mortonjag 2008-08-13 09:12:26
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 13 2008, 06:38 AM) [snapback]493819[/snapback]
Right...ya bunch of animal rights freaks.

I have approved this guys holiday. Just no one mention the word poufes on Fri 22nd Aug..

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Glad you backed down for him Sean-I hope you haven't taken it too hard. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-13 09:15:50 'When you've seen one pair of massive tits, you've seen them all!

Discuss with reference to the current incumbents at Morton F.C.!
mortonjag 2008-08-13 10:29:09
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 13 2008, 09:15 AM) [snapback]493888[/snapback]
Perhaps our new Director will see fit to answer the Trust's letter before Christmas!

Or to make post # 700 ?

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I've given him over an hour-perhaps he's 'out of the country again'! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-13 10:32:05
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Aug 13 2008, 09:13 AM) [snapback]493887[/snapback]
MONKEY BLOOD!!!!!!!! ph34r.gif

Rhesus positive cones.
mortonjag 2008-08-13 10:37:05
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Aug 13 2008, 09:51 AM) [snapback]493905[/snapback]
Mr Pot, meet Mr Kettle.............. dry.gif

Post number 3, and an attack on the Jag!

N.B. big Mods!!! laugh.gif

Anyway-marks out of ten:


Originality 1
Wit 0
Accuracy 0

And for editing a post before quoting: -10! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-13 10:41:05
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Aug 13 2008, 10:19 AM) [snapback]493912[/snapback]
That's probably about right, unless we sign two full backs. I think DI's signings and early season line-ups/displays will tell you he has one plan in mind, give or take a few adjustments.

His plan seems to revolve largely around Brian Wake, going on Saturday's showing when we seemed to find it difficult to find an alternative system. We played a bit like Rangers in the first half, i.e. no width and not much creativity. I thought this improved when Finlayson came on and McAlister moved to left mid. Neither of them were great but just having any sort of width helped spread the play and create more chances.

DI repeated yesterday he'll go back to his preferred 3-4-3 as Wake is back, though he will change to 4-3-3 on occasion. In other words 4-4-2 isn't really in his plans.

That's more or less how I see it, and presumably if Wakey gets injured and the defenders are all fit Spoonsy can replace him.

The trouble is that he's only got one string to the bow and that attack will flounder at times against well set up opposition. We need wingers (or wing players).
mortonjag 2008-08-13 10:47:32
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 13 2008, 08:57 AM) [snapback]493866[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

Because he has a degree from a PROPER university ?

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The divine right of Kings.

That man is a vegetable-no wonder they understand him.
mortonjag 2008-08-13 10:52:02
QUOTE(Alibi @ Aug 13 2008, 09:52 AM) [snapback]493906[/snapback]
You're not allowed to say that any more.....

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I did!
mortonjag 2008-08-13 11:01:41
QUOTE(Alibi @ Aug 13 2008, 10:19 AM) [snapback]493911[/snapback]
There is no doubt that standards have been lowered to try to achieve Tony Blair's stated aim of having 50% of people get degrees. Some of the subjetcs on offer are risible - photography isn't a degree subject in my opinion. There is nothing wrong with having a trade, and why belittle tradesmen by implying that you are nobody unless you have a degree? If you lower standards, you devalue ALL degrees and simply create mediocrity. Far better to be a good plumber or joiner with skill and ability than to give that up in pursuit of a degree in something obscure and useless.

The sadness for me is that many of today's kids actually believe they've achieved something until they are forced to compete in the labour market. Only then is the true worth of their scraps of paper revealed, and for some it's a bombshell.

For those who graduate with quality degrees from proper universities, their bits of paper are merely a stepping stone. Some of the brightest students in my year became useless quacks AND vice versa.

There is NO substitute for experience, and all of life's skills are developed 'at the coal face'.
mortonjag 2008-08-13 11:05:05
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Aug 13 2008, 11:00 AM) [snapback]493939[/snapback]
Who will drop out for Wakey? Think Masterton could be unfortunate as he did well on Saturday. I think this could be the starting 11:

----------------------------------------------Cuthbert--------------------------------------------

------------------------Shimmin------------McManus-------------Harding----------------------

Finlayson-----------------McGuffie----------------------Paartalu-------------------McAlister

-------------------------Russell---------------Wake----------------Newby---------------------




Jimbo's been crap for weeks. I'd give him a well earned rest. Superkev should cope against third division opposition!
mortonjag 2008-08-13 11:12:52
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 13 2008, 10:57 AM) [snapback]493937[/snapback]
laugh.gif
One minute I'm erudite, the next I'm jejeune (or should that be jejune?) My point is that the monarchy is an irrelevance to most free thinking democrats, apart from some erudite, jejune auld tories of course. If he wants to play a part in society he should do as I suggest: come doon aff his pedestal and get a proper job.

Je.. January, Fe.. February, M.. March.............Je.. June?

Latin ...jejunus=hungry!
mortonjag 2008-08-13 11:18:38
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Aug 13 2008, 10:44 AM) [snapback]493928[/snapback]
Just for you mate.

[attachment=4343:Michelle_Marsh_L.JPG]

[attachment=4344:Rebecca_Romijn.bmp]

Silicone glen!
mortonjag 2008-08-13 11:25:19
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Aug 13 2008, 11:20 AM) [snapback]493952[/snapback]
laugh.gif Didn't think you were choosy Mr Jag! biggrin.gif

Silicone at 37 deg. C.makes excellent stress balls!
mortonjag 2008-08-13 12:11:42
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 13 2008, 11:56 AM) [snapback]493974[/snapback]
A 27% slump in sales suggests a significant price drop in the near future though.
Not that that is necessarily a bad thing.

Would you care to expand the argument a little? I'll start you off by stating that it's not necessarily a good thing! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-13 12:14:14
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 13 2008, 12:00 PM) [snapback]493978[/snapback]
It is a bit silly to test trigonometry and a basic life skill within the same exam paper IMO.

Which skill?
mortonjag 2008-08-13 12:17:20
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 13 2008, 11:45 AM) [snapback]493966[/snapback]
Other meanings are: boring, intellectually undemanding, childish, and barren. The auld pedagogue's having a dig I believe. laugh.gif


Shall we rename him the Archeologist?
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 13 2008, 11:47 AM) [snapback]493969[/snapback]
Dunno, but I'd like to retire him and his ilk. Permanently.

Born in 1949!
mortonjag 2008-08-13 12:21:24
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Aug 13 2008, 11:32 AM) [snapback]493957[/snapback]
So does an ample cleavage and a willing participant wink.gif

As demonstrated by the gaping bottom of a vacant old pouffe?
mortonjag 2008-08-13 12:25:04
QUOTE(Muz @ Aug 13 2008, 12:10 PM) [snapback]493986[/snapback]
Puggsy- honestly- I HATE Abba with a passion. If it comes on at a wedding I would sit doon.

Cant stand them.

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mortonjag 2008-08-13 12:29:05
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Aug 13 2008, 12:23 PM) [snapback]493994[/snapback]
Isn't it gratifying, when one casts one's bait upon the water, to see how the pondlife is disturbed?

And "as for editing a post before quoting"....... as if moronjag would never do such a thing!

You appear easily gratified.

Happy to have been of help.

I'm just about to check your profile-most putative' anglers are scared to leave details and last for about fifty or so posts! dry.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif pricking pomposity, prodding prejudices laugh.gif laugh.gif

G'on yersel' sonny! smile.gif


Oh and 6/6/66 ! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-13 12:42:14
QUOTE(leyTON @ Aug 13 2008, 12:36 PM) [snapback]494010[/snapback]
theres lots of it analysts in gibraltar




Are you suggesting that apes are pouffes?
mortonjag 2008-08-13 12:52:39
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Aug 13 2008, 12:49 PM) [snapback]494022[/snapback]
hmmm, I can see that I'm going to have to add "provoking patronisers".............. sonny! To quote Corporal Jones, "they don't like it up 'em"................

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Go ahead child-shall I ask if you're a POUFFE while I'm on? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-13 13:44:19
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Aug 13 2008, 12:56 PM) [snapback]494026[/snapback]
are you in the habit of asking "children" about their sexual orientation?

Am I being "groomed" here, Grandad?

Are you Gary Glitter in disguise??

Hmm!

Do your parents know about this? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-13 13:47:39
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Aug 13 2008, 01:16 PM) [snapback]494033[/snapback]
It's the rules of Scottish football, you can't play against your club. The two clubs would need to agree that he could play when the contract was signed, and they wouldn't expect to play against each other.

But in short, he's not good enough and would only be 5th choice striker so why not loan him out.

That's it in a nutshell.
mortonjag 2008-08-13 13:49:51
QUOTE(Muz @ Aug 13 2008, 12:44 PM) [snapback]494018[/snapback]
But not as much as I hate you.

Thank God-I was getting jealous for a wee while.
mortonjag 2008-08-13 13:52:44
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 13 2008, 12:53 PM) [snapback]494024[/snapback]
For a start it would be one of the few sectors of the economy that would show a deflationary pattern - every little helps in trying to curb the inflating inflation rate.
It also helps first-time buyers get onto the "housing ladder" without havign a stupid amount of debt over their heads.
Also, it is a case of the market correcting itself after a spell of lunacy and significant speculation. blush.gif
It depends on individual circumstances as to whether it is a good or bad thing - if you're a Daily Mail reader, its the Antichrist. blush.gif

So there are winners and losers. That's probably not a bad thing either!
mortonjag 2008-08-13 13:57:39
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 13 2008, 12:48 PM) [snapback]494020[/snapback]
Arithmetic.
Or am I being whooshed? blush.gif

I'm many things young man but I ain't a 'whoosher'! I thought you meant arithmetic-you'd imagine it to be a 'basic life skill', yet half the population those days is relatively innumerate.

That, BTW, is a FACT! blush.gif

QUOTE(Boozehound @ Aug 13 2008, 12:58 PM) [snapback]494028[/snapback]
If I was a school leaver now I wouldn't even consider university, with the exception being engineering type subjects. The old adage of "learn a trade son" is the way forward for the yoofs who want practically guaranteed employment anywhere in the world on very generous salaries.

Never a truer word said.

If you want to study one of the proper university subjects, it's different of course. The unions did not invent the 'closed shop'! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-13 14:13:21
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Aug 13 2008, 12:31 PM) [snapback]494005[/snapback]
I think Michelle Marsh's assets are natural. Also from the same stable of quality boobies are Lucy Pinder and Keeley Hazell. wub.gif

You may have misunderstood me young man-silicone at 37 degrees C. has a lovely smoothly compliant character, quite unlike the grainy fibroadenotic lumpiness of many of those hypertrophic naturals, who, without bilateral reduction mammoplasties, will end up like half shut knives.
mortonjag 2008-08-13 14:15:52
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Aug 13 2008, 12:39 PM) [snapback]494011[/snapback]
You sure it isn't forwards? ph34r.gif

I heard he just rocks to and fro.
mortonjag 2008-08-13 14:22:33
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 13 2008, 02:08 PM) [snapback]494078[/snapback]
Indiana McB, c'est moi.

Probably more likely to be Sir Mortimer Wheeler. Remember him.

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDNot at all Indiana-she's merely indulging her undying interest in old relics.
mortonjag 2008-08-13 14:46:39
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 13 2008, 02:35 PM) [snapback]494095[/snapback]
Are you calling me an old relic? huh.gif

I was alluding to Madame du Bam's interest in things ancient!
mortonjag 2008-08-13 14:54:58
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 13 2008, 02:39 PM) [snapback]494098[/snapback]
You been reading those 'Gay Weekly' magazines again laugh.gif

Sway if you like to be gay
Sway if you like it that way!

I was thinking about your original post.

Asking his superior for time off 'for a dirty weekend' indicated an insubordinate and risque attitude which might prove detrimental to staff morale. Had I been you, I'd have chucked the cheeky Gouda guzzling geek over my knee and tanned his pink pouffe little arse with one of my stilettos.
mortonjag 2008-08-13 15:10:51 laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-13 15:15:23
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 13 2008, 03:08 PM) [snapback]494109[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif

He would most defo love you rolleyes.gif
Any man that carry's a handbag around, gay or not... Is just not right in the head.



It's a cheese bag. Do you want the place stinking of the stuff?

Anyway I've always found you have to be cruel to others to be kind to yourself.
mortonjag 2008-08-13 15:22:15
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 13 2008, 03:08 PM) [snapback]494110[/snapback]
Needs its own exam to sort the numerate from the innumerate.
A maths question can yield 5/6 marks and so on for a wrong answer(due to a basic error in arithmetic) if correct working is provided.
Now, that shows that the pupil understands the theory of the topic, such as trigonometery and the like, but it doesn't show he/she can actually count - despite being awarded an 'A' in Higher Maths. wacko.gif

I shall for once lower my guard with a confession. I was abysmally poor at Mathematics.

Having said that I was commensurately outstanding at arithmetic.

Two things which always annoy me about 'Countdown' are the description of the counting as 'Maths', and the anagram as a 'conundrum'.
mortonjag 2008-08-13 15:26:25
QUOTE(centralTON @ Aug 13 2008, 03:21 PM) [snapback]494118[/snapback]
2 hours of my life I will never get back again. dry.gif

Don't fret-tonight you can get it right up JM for stealing weeks.
mortonjag 2008-08-13 16:13:23
QUOTE(centralTON @ Aug 13 2008, 03:31 PM) [snapback]494127[/snapback]
Hope so, you shouldn't have a problem finding a parking space tonight, you must know the place pretty well.

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We know a wee place!
mortonjag 2008-08-13 16:16:47
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 13 2008, 04:03 PM) [snapback]494140[/snapback]
Ah, so your a giver not a taker laugh.gif

Sado-masochist-they always get the better of me in the end!
mortonjag 2008-08-13 17:18:57 large mongrel going free to good home-will eat anything-very fond of children.
mortonjag 2008-08-13 17:33:33 Now that JM IS apparently in charge of a squad, will he still be sitting like a Buddha- arms folded, lounging back against the wall arms folded, or demonstrating a previously rare animation?

I have a strange feeling that he will tonight look more like a windmill in a light breeze.

Pity about the humping though-well for him! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 06:19:03 Those who attended will confirm that there was indeed a somewhat sedate and insignificant little man with folded arms seen lounging about in the Stenny 'dug out', where a more rotund gentleman in similar attire received a rebuke from one of little Santa's helpers-probably for farting over exuberantly.
mortonjag 2008-08-14 06:30:33
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Aug 13 2008, 06:23 PM) [snapback]494192[/snapback]
"It rubs the lotion on its skin, or else it gets the hose again."

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That sounds like a poetic line LargsTON!

Mabawsa Beast-it cannot win
It dare not scratch that scrote again
It rubs the lotion on its skin
Or else it gets the hose again. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 06:51:22
QUOTE(RevDave @ Aug 13 2008, 07:24 PM) [snapback]494203[/snapback]
RevDave is answerable to God alone!

For your information:

chaplaincy in sport

Rev Dave appears then to be a dedicated follower of Cappielow fashion! laugh.gif

QUOTE(marbellaton @ Aug 13 2008, 09:08 PM) [snapback]494293[/snapback]
I'm more bothered that he made it into the squad photo's that I saw on Tontastic's site.

link? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 06:56:42 Pleasing to see another tremendous header from RH-that's two good goals he's been denied in two games. Not bad from a guy who took unfair abuse for much of last season.
mortonjag 2008-08-14 07:15:09
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Aug 13 2008, 08:40 PM) [snapback]494256[/snapback]
I can see where DM's coming from but McGuffie's now scored in his last 3 games and deserves some credit, irrespective of the opposition.

Man of the Match for me by a long chalk. Players' player who pops up all over the place when least expected-reads the game early and well. Scored two good goals last night, had one excellent 'last man' tackle, and a composed run down the right touchline which Superkev would have been proud of.

Lazy?

Ineffective?

Start WATCHING the guy, instead of 'not seeing' him!! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 07:29:57
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 14 2008, 06:11 AM) [snapback]494445[/snapback]
lots of views = lots of concern/interest ? ?

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I'm confused now myself Newt. While I freely acknowledge that some posters are fatally attracted to mortonjag like flies to a toxic turd, I did believe there was also some genuine interest in AD's remit.

Seems we're doing OK at the moment-the focus is on the football-and the usual mass complacency has flooded back in.

The Trust states that it asked a polite question of Mr Donald, and to date has apparently had no response. The function of the Trust-AS I HAVE BEEN STOUTLY REMINDED- is to...........oh f*ck-I've forgotten. I think they have too! mad.gif

Anyway I see Jim McColl IS still a Director, and we now KNOW that Mr Donald's a Director, (only as of 1st July mind), so I'd assume Jim just has to say-'Alistair, what are your plans-you DO remember we once had a man here called Hugh's Cot, and Alistair, with his undying passion for all things Morton will reply' I DO Jim, and you're entitled to know, and they are as follows'! laugh.gif




AM I MISSING SOMETHING?




mortonjag 2008-08-14 07:44:05
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 14 2008, 03:25 AM) [snapback]494434[/snapback]
http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/ho...icle1556715.ece

McInally said: “If you take the goals out of the game I thought that we more than matched Morton."

What's your point, caller ?

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In fairness to JM he always loved squads which flattered to deceive. The wee Shire looked quite tidy at times last night. We looked big and strong and fit and frequently rather feckless, but it's a 'results driven game' as Fr. Rae lamented when JM deserted the sinking ship!
mortonjag 2008-08-14 07:56:20
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 13 2008, 10:28 PM) [snapback]494327[/snapback]
Not long in from the game...

Fairly solid performance from all concerned. East Stirling rarely troubled, though did hit the post from a free kick in the first half.

All the goals were taken well, and McGuffie is really coming onto a game now.

Only two negatives in the game were the referee ( dry.gif ) and Harding's distribution in the first half (woeful doesn't even begin to cover that).

Home draw in the Quarter Finals please. smile.gif



QUOTE(JonaTon @ Aug 13 2008, 11:01 PM) [snapback]494346[/snapback]
The second was a good strike and looked hard to save from where I was standing. The third might have been save-able but came through a crowd of players.

He also made a decent save from Peter Weatherson.

I thought Hillcoat had a decent game.




My brother said to me about twenty minutes from the end-'Do you fancy going home now'? I've never known him to ask that before. We stayed on.


Boring as boring gets, but a result! BTW I've now read every single post about last night's match, and the only mention of 'our best player' was that he was fouled! blink.gif

The Ref just needed a fluffy white beard and a pair of top boots to make him believable-HE gets £300-£400 quid for THAT? ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif

WILL we sign at least one winger? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 08:01:20
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 14 2008, 06:37 AM) [snapback]494448[/snapback]
was he lost ?

I have to say he looked VERY insignificant! I expected to see some animation-ZILCH!

I felt a bit sorry for him to be honest. I don't think he could stamp his authority on a pat of butter. Fr. Rae definitely 'saw him coming'!
mortonjag 2008-08-14 08:17:53
QUOTE(Toby @ Aug 14 2008, 08:05 AM) [snapback]494458[/snapback]
Both points about the social club are true.

However, Stenhousemuir have two social clubs, one in the main stand and the independant Warriors club in which we met AyrshireTon. we were in the one in the stand for two beers before heading round to the other social club.

I don't remember seeing any Morton officials in that club but clearly someone that knows us was there. Gerry's now had it with Morton and says he'll be cancelling the direct debits and returning his season ticket, I'm not of the same view although I will be contacting the club.

We were told at the turnstyles that we'll not be allowed in the ground because of advice given by an official of Morton Football Club and from now on are banned from Ochilview, Cappielow and that Morton are making moves to have us banned from every ground in Scotland. Surprising this, bearing in mind that they've recently been more than happy to take £210 off me for a season ticket after sending a letter to me offering me the opportunity to buy one and to set up Gerry's standing order for his.

We'll never be popular with the club and don't court popularity with them but surely if this was going to happen it would've happened a long time before now? Our relationship with the club probably broke down the day I had a go at McInally outside Forthbank and deteriorated further during our TTG campaign but since I gave Martin Clark a hard time at Dens Park in February, I vowed to "clean up my act" and haven't been involved in any incidents since so can't understand why Morton feel the need to do this now when they could've done it back then.

Incidentally, we left the official club off our own backs. We were not asked to leave by anyone and actually stood and talked to the two guys behind the bar. Had we done anything out of order I'm sure we'd have been kicked out, but that wasn't the case.

I'd like to know the whole truth about this before lending you my wholehearted support.

Off the cuff it sounds typical of the Rae Dynasty! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 08:44:36
QUOTE(larmton @ Aug 13 2008, 10:41 PM) [snapback]494332[/snapback]
better laugh.gif

LARMTON IS A VELVET CUSHION?


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mortonjag 2008-08-14 09:17:16
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Aug 13 2008, 08:04 PM) [snapback]494227[/snapback]
I usually agree with you MJ, but not on this, the Murray brothers are great for Scottish sport. rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 13 2008, 08:24 PM) [snapback]494245[/snapback]
You usually agree with him!!!???? He's off his f***ing rocker. And not in a good way.

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QUOTE(centralTON @ Aug 13 2008, 11:38 PM) [snapback]494377[/snapback]
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QUOTE(piehutt @ Aug 13 2008, 11:46 PM) [snapback]494385[/snapback]
Andy Murray is an elite World class sports star.

Really can't understand the mentality of some Scottish people, taking pleasure in their compatriot's defeat.

Elite=spoilt, overrated, jumped up, money grabbing-sounds just about right for many of the 'elite' Piehole. It was a HUMPING-not a 'defeat'! Judy will be SO delighted the boys can get back to making Munny for Mummy! dry.gif

QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Aug 14 2008, 12:09 AM) [snapback]494397[/snapback]
the british female tennis team are doing well.
Here's Eleana Baltacha trying to slip one down the line

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QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 14 2008, 01:14 AM) [snapback]494414[/snapback]
compatriot ??

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mortonjag 2008-08-14 09:54:13
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Aug 14 2008, 09:20 AM) [snapback]494488[/snapback]
This man said it. ph34r.gif

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDWho he?
mortonjag 2008-08-14 11:13:38
QUOTE(midTONs @ Aug 14 2008, 09:08 AM) [snapback]494476[/snapback]

I'm as certain as I can be that the account Toby has given you is the correct on
e, I do not know the sure reasons behind why the Morton official made a point of making sure Toby and Gerry were not allowed entry into the ground last night but I can only surmise it was it was because Jim McInally was managing our opposition.
I have to say I felt for Toby in particular last night, this is a guy who has not missed a Morton match in probably near a decade and I don't just mean league and cup games I mean meaningless friendlies not just in Scotland but all over England as well. I spoke to Toby before the game and saw him afterwards and you could tell from his voice and his expressions afterwards what missing this game (a meaningless fecking diddy cup game to most) meant to him, he was gutted, some people might not agree with the way he and Gerry go about things, they can be annoying to some but at the end of the day, they do it because this club means everything to them and in my opinion what happened last night was 100% wrong.
I would like to know who the Morton official or employee was and on who's say so he gave the instructions, if it was their own I would like to think the club would discipline them but for some reason I doubt that would happen.

I don't doubt a word of what Toby said-I just need the full story before lending him my wholehearted support-that is what I said.

QUOTE(LargsTON @ Aug 14 2008, 09:45 AM) [snapback]494500[/snapback]
Morton have obviously spat the dummy big time about something so I'd also advise mortonjag to watch his back. laugh.gif

I sincerely hope neither of you are banned for life.


I doubt if this has anything to do with Morton!
QUOTE(irnbru @ Aug 14 2008, 10:06 AM) [snapback]494507[/snapback]
To be honest maybe its something like this you guys need - some of the nonsense and shouting that comes from both of you has ruined countless games for myself and others. I'm sure you'll use the usual arguement that you are real supporters because of going to every game, but at the end of the day it doesn't matter when you both act like stupid wee boys.

I recommend the ballet-it's very refined! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 12:30:44
QUOTE(Malt @ Aug 14 2008, 11:26 AM) [snapback]494527[/snapback]
On the topic of the match last night it was pretty easy for us and we were happy to play arond with the ball.

Man of the Match for me was Ryan McGuffie. Does a lot of work that he does not get credit for. He breaks up play, tracks back and is constantly going forward.

Looking at East Stirling I thought they were very poor and their best player was John Hillcoat who saved them a few times. They had 4 or 5 very lightweight midgets in their team. Kind of guys McInally would like to attract to Cappielow.

End of the day...can't fault them for their effort wink.gif


Agree!
QUOTE(El gofer @ Aug 14 2008, 11:31 AM) [snapback]494532[/snapback]
Have to say this is sad stuff if true.
Have disagreed with some things that the boys have done previously, which Toby himself held his hands up for, but knowing them relatively well, ie having a couple of beers with them after the game, I know that they are no more or less vociferous than many others and have given the ton great support.

I find this very very strange.

I think it's come from the 'Shire' and not Morton.

QUOTE(irnbru @ Aug 14 2008, 12:07 PM) [snapback]494544[/snapback]
Its not the shouting i mind but the personal abuse of our own players, arguing eith fellow supporters, stating that they won't cheer when one of the players they don't like score, etc, etc, that annoys me. I'm sure a good majority of fans agree if they've stood near these guys at a game.

You are as entitled to be upset as they are to make their feelings heard-either be upset or move away!
mortonjag 2008-08-14 12:41:28
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 14 2008, 03:40 AM) [snapback]494440[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

Doesn't look like a PROPER university to me.

Your thoughts please.

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The 'University' is not in Britain Newt! rolleyes.gif

It is my considered opinion, based on personal experience, and on that of a family member who interacts with professors day and daily, that some 40-50% are eccentric, with half of those 'tuned to the moon'.

That's in a Proper University! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 12:49:05


QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 14 2008, 10:01 AM) [snapback]494505[/snapback]
That's not the view the the Nats, it's the view of one Nat. rolleyes.gif

Why do you people continually refer to Colkitto's postings as being representative all Nationalists?

It's OK, no need to answer that, it's obvious.

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Sauce for the goose!
mortonjag 2008-08-14 12:55:18
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 13 2008, 08:57 PM) [snapback]494277[/snapback]
Ok, what's more erotic, cleavage or protruding nipples (through clothing) ?

You've been watching Sir Cliff singing in the rain Spurtle!

QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 14 2008, 01:15 AM) [snapback]494415[/snapback]
Brandy Taylor says hi

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDI'd imagine that to an inveterate massive booby sooker those grotesque balloons would signify a three course dinner.
mortonjag 2008-08-14 13:04:38 The wonderful thing about this forum is that it's so hard to know when folk are tongue in cheek-or should that be tonguing cheeks? unsure.gif

Gays are undoubtedly in the minority, and like all minority groups they can either fight the inevitable persecution from the narrow minded, or try to remain 'invisible' and 'straight'.


I can't abide OTT minority groups of any kind, be they PC, Gay Rights, or 'Green'. They are ALMOST as hard to understand as those who KNOW the majority is right! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 13:14:29 As always, some are 'jumping the gun'. It's maybe not well known that I have little respect for the regime at Morton, but I believe the Steward may have delivered a mixed message.

If Fr. Rae had wanted Toby out he could have done it long ago. Sounds like JM/MC either did this on their own or bit the old fud's ear last night.

Morton can 'ban' Toby from Cappielow if they wish. I'd imagine that if they DARE, somebody will be starting a petition, somebody will be writing to the local press, etc., etc.

As I said-let's wait for the full story. blush.gif

Edit: just saw Toby's post! blink.gif

I really hope that the regular abuse Mortonjag's been receiving from that excoriated bawbag Mabawsa has not been the work of a respected employee of G.M.F.C! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 13:33:15
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Aug 14 2008, 01:20 PM) [snapback]494600[/snapback]
About time the wee wanks got thrown out!

I have no problem with little folk masturbating-are you always intolerant? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 13:39:11
QUOTE(Donkey Dave @ Aug 14 2008, 01:35 PM) [snapback]494612[/snapback]
Technically incorrect - they never got in to be chucked out! rolleyes.gif laugh.gif

Part of the reason I attended last nights game was actually to hear the "banter" that I knew would be coming from Toby and Gerry. As the main instigators of the TTG (Time To Go/Totally Toby Gerry) Campaign I would have thought that a certain management team (using the term in its loosest sense) would have come in for a mountain of abuse. If I did not like how they conduct themselves then I would stand as far away from them as possible. I have never heard anything from the duo that could possibly qualify for a FBO - absolutely ludicrous. If there are any moves towards this then I will be one of the first to staff the barricades...

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The Donkey and the Monkey stand united-this is an historic occasion! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 13:45:59
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 14 2008, 01:13 PM) [snapback]494593[/snapback]
I don't know if you remember, you probably don't, but we had a discussion on here a while ago about the term 'Nationalist' used to describe those who favour independence.

The SNP are of course the Scottish National Party, and therefore use of the term 'Nationalist' to describe their supporters is inaccurate and of course has negative extreme right-wing connotations.

Fot that reason I've never liked the term to describe myself and those like me.

Of course!

I was referring to the term 'you people'-used by your good self to describe ??? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 13:50:41
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Aug 14 2008, 12:46 PM) [snapback]494562[/snapback]
Just been accepted into Politics at Strathclyde, despite not meeting all the conditions of my conditional offer! biggrin.gif

I'm taking a gap year before going anyway, now to get a job...



QUOTE(leyTON @ Aug 14 2008, 01:36 PM) [snapback]494614[/snapback]
thought i had a fellow long haired chum in my course there craig, till i read the last line



And the Viking too?


I can just see the three of you in thirty years time-each having followed the most pragmatic course for self advancement, knocking lumps out of each other at Holyrood, and getting pissed together at Hospitality in the Douglas Rae Memorial Stadium!
mortonjag 2008-08-14 13:56:17
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Aug 14 2008, 01:06 PM) [snapback]494581[/snapback]
What's a "gay"?

–noun
7. a homosexual person, esp. a male.
mortonjag 2008-08-14 14:02:58 To Kermit's Daddy!

Enjoy laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 14:07:12
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Aug 14 2008, 01:57 PM) [snapback]494635[/snapback]
And they say that the elderly aren't out of touch these days rolleyes.gif tongue.gif

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I haven't time to go through the bloody Kennel Club register every month.
mortonjag 2008-08-14 14:13:06
QUOTE(Toby @ Aug 14 2008, 02:06 PM) [snapback]494639[/snapback]
Any good vantage points?

Arthur's seat? smile.gif :
mortonjag 2008-08-14 14:30:21
QUOTE(Cult Hero @ Aug 14 2008, 12:39 PM) [snapback]494557[/snapback]
Seconded. Two of them however are for cheating. rolleyes.gif

Alleged!

QUOTE(Cult Hero @ Aug 14 2008, 01:05 PM) [snapback]494580[/snapback]
Of course it is, and we've played so few games too. And I think I also mentioned last night about Wakey's bookings for unsporting behaviour which are just idiotic. No matter what you say your never going to change a refs desision, unless of course you can slip Craig Thomson a cheeky fiver.

Last night's refereeing was a farce.

I think that in Mr Thomson's case (assuming he were amenable) smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif £5000 would be more accurate! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 14:36:44
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Aug 14 2008, 02:15 PM) [snapback]494642[/snapback]
GT, I know a few guys who stand in the shed, not that far from G&T, and TBH, after almost every game, the phrase" bore the bollox aff us.." usually raises its head. Now, If it were I who were next to them, why the hell should it be me who moves? just out of curiousity? I dont normally go to the shed anymore-miss it big time I have to say, but I have witnessed some of what other posters have mentioned, and you know, telling someone" if YOU dont like what you hear, then move away.." is IMO unfair,

I dont now hear any of whats meant to go on, so when I do read on here, it becomes upsetting to the extent, that its the same two guys mentioned.....Victimisation? I think not..precedent set? yes!!! It would be more than a coincidence for the same 2 names to get drawn out of a hat dont you think? mind you both guys are big enough and ugly enough to voice their own opinions..as we all should be...and usually are...

One final thing....Hamiltons Fergus...anyone remember him? he well and truely was banned from every ground in scotland....but he was bloody hilarious......

Vader-there are stewards and Polis at every Ton match-they get PAID to sort out what is or is not acceptable!

Simple really! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 14:43:32
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 14 2008, 01:54 PM) [snapback]494632[/snapback]
The 'Nat' bashers. blush.gif

Oh that homogeneous bunch. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 15:35:03
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Aug 14 2008, 02:50 PM) [snapback]494676[/snapback]
Those views are like night and day amongst them...

I presume you mean there is no consistency-well it's nice to know that some folk are allowed to exercise their own judgement and discretion.

You claim that certain fans annoy certain others by indulging in behaviour which is apparently acceptable to the accepted law enforcement. Then so be it!

You claim that the former should 'move on'. Well Vader, it just doesn't work that way. I don't make a fuss verbally at matches, but I sure rattle a few cages on here, and I'm defending Toby's-or anybody else's right to make his views heard within accepted limits-just as I do on here.

I've had plenty trying to muffle me too-I'm still here, and I'm damned sure Toby will still be at Cappielow if I have anything to do with it.
mortonjag 2008-08-14 15:37:00
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Aug 14 2008, 03:33 PM) [snapback]494691[/snapback]
The Police are absolutely useless. Two wee boys and a girl, couldn't be older than 13, were standing smoking in the Cowshed last Saturday, stewards and Police just turned a blind eye.

NEVER unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 15:48:22
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Aug 14 2008, 02:56 PM) [snapback]494679[/snapback]
Mortonjag in bitter comments about rich, successful people shock.

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mortonjag 2008-08-14 15:59:46
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 14 2008, 03:01 PM) [snapback]494680[/snapback]
Do you mean clever gay people, like Oscar Wilde? laugh.gif The auld pedagogue is hostile to most things these days.

Indianabam tolerates fools poorly-tis true-hardly a cardinal sin on this massage board! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 16:05:56
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Aug 14 2008, 03:48 PM) [snapback]494706[/snapback]
This isnt a case of 'one voice out weights that of the many' why should the many move to make life easier for the few? I aint sayin people should NOT have views, were would we be without them?

They shouldn't-they should stay put and demonstrate the tolerance you claim to uphold! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 16:38:17
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Aug 14 2008, 04:15 PM) [snapback]494736[/snapback]
TBH, Its no claim, its fact, I am just as stubborn if not more than the other, Thats partly what makes me angry..stand up to it if it makes you annoyed. Not on here....if someone peaves me at a game I'll say so, not wait till I get home on a bloody keyboard.. mad.gif

Vader you're confusing me-if not yourself-I thought you wanted to DENY Toby the right to speak his mind at the games!

If anybody peeves me at a game it'll be a first-I've been a stand man for as long as I can remember, and they're quite a civilised bunch. The people who peeve me are to all intents and purposes unassailable by normal means. This wee massage board is, however, occasionally noted by them! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 16:41:57
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 14 2008, 04:06 PM) [snapback]494724[/snapback]
Hmmmmmmmm, I'm not so sure. dry.gif

Constant anger and scorn of others is more likely to be a symptom or inner discontent.

I can recommend therapy!
mortonjag 2008-08-14 17:37:06
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Aug 14 2008, 04:45 PM) [snapback]494752[/snapback]
Right.....I am not trying to DENY anyone of their right to speak their mind, I am All for constuctive critisim....In the past....let us say for speak sake..this has never applied, the majority of the time, to toby. End of. IMO... dry.gif

It's all in the opinion of the person assessing the constructiveness, Vader.

The TTG campaign seemed pretty constructively critical of a man who had been taking us for a ride for three seasons! mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 17:57:40
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 14 2008, 05:21 PM) [snapback]494778[/snapback]
I'm not convinced.

In my experience angry and intolerant people are rarely happy people.

Cheer up!
mortonjag 2008-08-14 18:03:31 This is the foul sort of stuff which sickens decent posters. Port-ton and I had a discussion about it the other night after our usual wee liaison. How could any man let a WOMAN sook his knob? mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 18:18:19
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 14 2008, 06:01 PM) [snapback]494790[/snapback]
No need MJ, for today I'm a cheery wee chappy as always. I'm at peace with myself and the hand that God has dealt me. biggrin.gif

I have two.
mortonjag 2008-08-14 21:11:36
QUOTE(ton5saints1 @ Aug 14 2008, 07:45 PM) [snapback]494898[/snapback]
HAMILTON ACCIES FAN 'FERGIE'........But spend more than the 90-minute lifespan of a football match in the company of Hamilton heckler Fergie, very occasionally referred to by his Sunday name of IAN RUSSELL and you'll discover that he's not the mad old loon he's generally portrayed as.

Pulls at my heartstrings that quote!


Anyway-somebody's f*cked Toby up, and until we know the full story, we can but speculate.

It's NOT speculation, however, that he's upset 'the powers that be' in the past. The powers that be have a history of not liking the boat rocked. If this has merely been the vindictive action of ex employees of GMFC it's just sad and daft. If it's been deliberate action by 'the Club', I believe 'the Club' has well and truly shot himself in the foot AGAIN!


If, as Toby has suggested, this has been a viperous and unauthorised abuse of minion power-let the culprit take everything that such behaviour deserves from his employer right down to this board's humblest poster.!
mortonjag 2008-08-14 21:35:06
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 14 2008, 07:07 PM) [snapback]494831[/snapback]
Would that be three aces or three hooses? laugh.gif

WHAT CAN LITTLE HANDS DO?
Oh, what can little hands do To please the King of heaven ?
The little hands some work may try
To help the poor in misery : Such grace to mine be given!
Oh, what can little lips do
To please the King of heaven ?
The little lips can praise and pray,
And gentle words of kindness say :
Such grace to mine be given!
Oh, what can little eyes do
To please the King of heaven ? The little eyes can upward look, Can learn to read God's Holy Book: Such grace to mine be given!
Oh, what can little hearts do
To please the King of heaven ? The hearts, if God his Spirit send, Can love and trust the children's Friend Such grace to mine be given!
Though small is all that we cau do
To please the King of heaven,
When hearts and hands and lips unite
To serve the Saviour with delight, They are most precious in his sight:
Such grace to mine be given! angel.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 21:42:52
QUOTE(Pedro_c @ Aug 14 2008, 08:24 PM) [snapback]494941[/snapback]
So if Murray is number 6 in the world at his job and is rubbish, then how good a doctor were you? Number 5 at least I take it?

It must be terrible for Murray to know there are only 5 people, who on average, in the whole planet, are better than him.

Ya old fud.

I am No 1 old fud in the world! laugh.gif

QUOTE(piehutt @ Aug 14 2008, 08:59 PM) [snapback]494954[/snapback]
How is he overrated? He's legitimately rated 6th in the world, I don't think people would conciously rate him higher than that.

Were you dissapointed to learn of his victory in the Cincinatti Masters earlier this month? A tournament of higher value than the olympics in terms of ranking points?

Jumped up? He's generally modest enough and gives other players respect. He gets a bit annimated on court, but that's just some people's way of dealing with pressure.
Money-grabbing? Explain? Because he is a world class sports star he makes a decent living. You are jealous?

I am bitterly jealous of a sad child whose Mummy still has him in invisible nappies, and who may wake up in ten years time and wonder what it was all about! rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Aug 14 2008, 09:31 PM) [snapback]494971[/snapback]
Murray is a great ambassador for Scottish sport, the Union Jack stunt was just PR to win over the English counterparts.

On the other hand, I think he has the potential to become Champ of Wimbeldon. MJ you do indeed sound a jealous man wink.gif

Aye-worked a f*ckin' treat that did! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 21:49:02
QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 14 2008, 09:34 PM) [snapback]494973[/snapback]
I'd cut out the middle man and take my mate into the toilet and get him to suck me off.

Unfaithful little trollop-wait till Deego hears about this. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 21:57:28
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Aug 14 2008, 07:41 PM) [snapback]494891[/snapback]
Thank Bryan - my Internet provider is Scottish Gas , I'll get it eventually then.

I thought they were your scriptwriters! blush.gif

mortonjag 2008-08-14 22:04:18
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 14 2008, 09:59 PM) [snapback]495016[/snapback]
Correct
Bit of juice on juice is fine, but what's appealling to any woman about two guys ramming it up each others s***er rip.gif

They employ contortionists to entertain! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 22:07:24
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Aug 14 2008, 10:02 PM) [snapback]495026[/snapback]
You quite like bosoms, the bigger the better?

Ah, the aspirations of today's youngsters-Casanova and Atlas all rolled into one! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 22:09:34
QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 14 2008, 09:53 PM) [snapback]494999[/snapback]
Me and him finished ages ago, he just couldnt satisfy me. He's now with GreacensGenitals. The poster i mean, he isn't sucking on some ginger soorplooms just now.

Serious question-is LeyTON a fag?



I know he's a POOR student! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 23:10:05
QUOTE(cmdc @ Aug 14 2008, 11:02 PM) [snapback]495083[/snapback]
If it came from Morton it seems harsh, and deserves an explanation. If it was from McInally I think, and I'm going purely on what I've read here in the past, you probably just need to take it on the chin, unfair as it may be.

It purportedly came 'from Morton'.

What if it came from an unauthorised person associated with Morton? How would you deal with that?
mortonjag 2008-08-14 23:13:07
QUOTE(hoby @ Aug 14 2008, 10:54 PM) [snapback]495077[/snapback]
How can it be out of date to know how to add, subtract, divide and multiply?

In an age when folk know the price of everything and the value of nothing, the calculator is King! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 23:30:51
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 14 2008, 11:05 PM) [snapback]495085[/snapback]
Rather Graphic description there, but agreed.

Funny how all the wee misgivings and prejudices are popping out!

Just think of the enormous pleasure one gets from doing a humungous keech!

The positive feedback from one's rectum is undeniable- indeed, some folk 'milk' the experience, warming the pan for countless ages whilst pondering Oor Wullie or the Broons prior to that final moment of orgasmic ecstasy as they sadly say 'goodbye' to their old friend as he departs on his long journey to the seaside.

It's hardly a quantum leap to imagine a similar physical experience in reverse! blush.gif

Furthermore, a standing knob has no conscience-it's like food-sometimes what looks worst tastes best-the maxim surely is 'don't knock it till you've tried it'-or 'Any port in a storm' perhaps!

Anyway, is seems to me that those pouffes only do what comes naturally to them-many undoubtedly find the concept of heterosexual liaison repulsive-it's in the genes.

Grown men carrying handbags and wearing make up-that's totally different-I'd flog those bent Nancy boys within an inch of their lives, and top them for second offences.
mortonjag 2008-08-14 23:45:59
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 14 2008, 11:34 PM) [snapback]495116[/snapback]
Last-gasp rescue bid for Murray launched

Gidday mortonjag,

Saw his headline this morning and was shocked.

Then I read the article.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=614790

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The Murrays are no darlings of this poster Newt! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-14 23:50:49
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 13 2008, 09:15 AM) [snapback]493888[/snapback]
Perhaps our new Director will see fit to answer the Trust's letter before Christmas!

Or to make post # 700 ?

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Over 32,000 views, almost 700 replies, and suddenly a deathly hush Newt!


Was it something I said? mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-15 07:38:43
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 15 2008, 12:00 AM) [snapback]495132[/snapback]
carpet ?

broom ?

under ?

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It's a wee bit worrying mind you. I stupidly imagined that the the vast interest WAS in Alistair Donald and in the future of the club for which so many of our posters CLAIM to have genuine concern. dry.gif

It now appears simply to have been an anti-Jag backlash of massive proportions! That is utterly pathetic, and is confirmed by a deafening silence from Plankton Pond.

Very funny, NOT. dry.gif

They've accused me of everything from paedophilia to attempting to take over at Cappielow!

Perhaps-those weasel minded pin brains who could turn an 80% endorsement of JM into pathological hatred in a couple of short months thought they had found a new victim! dry.gif

The message is coming through LOUD AND CLEAR.

The infrastructure at Cappielow-including involvement with the Trust- appears rotten to the core. It is hugely inefficient, and infested with sycophantic and mutual back scratching, while the ongoing 'siege ethos' is fed by insider 'spying' on our pubic massage board. Mr Rae indeed has his Resistance Movement! rip.gif

Questions may be asked. They are never answered.

Jim McColl's position is farcical, and the rest of the Trust Committee is utterly ineffectual when it comes to dealing with the club. Only half a dozen members turned up for their recent A.G.M!!!

With enthusiasm like that they won't move many mountains! laugh.gif

BUT DON'T
ask the Trust questions either, unless you shell out ten quid, and you'll still hear zilch unless you strike it lucky. The Trust and 'The Club' make comfortable bedfellows. The old Sugar Daddy has them exactly where he wants them, and they appear to feel quite comfy in their own myopic cocoon.


Mr Rae 'won a watch' when David Irons was job hunting-he struck it VERY lucky

Why can our fans not appreciate how close we came to the slippery slope AGAIN-Rae WANTED to keep JM-FACT.

DI has temporarily been his saving grace, but things will soon turn bitter without inward investment. There is NO point in an SPL compliant stadium, unless we're 'in there' and we won't be promoted this year.

Those of us who genuinely know and love Morton, have repeatedly emphasised the fact that the Club has been under performing for three decades.

Alistair Donald seems the sort of investor who could make us successful again-indeed-profitable.

He's now an official Director, and STILL the fans know NOTHING about him.

When one dares to ask the obvious question........


HE'S ABUSED BY HIS FELLOW FANS!


It's no wonder that Fr. Rae can do just as he pleases! mad.gif


mortonjag 2008-08-15 08:01:25
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 15 2008, 03:29 AM) [snapback]495158[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

I know a darling that is nearly as long as that topic.

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Cry me a river!
mortonjag 2008-08-15 08:04:48
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 15 2008, 05:30 AM) [snapback]495161[/snapback]
Is there anything magical about a pass rate of 50% ?
Why would anyone want to guarantee it ?

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It might have something to do with politics! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-15 08:10:55
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 15 2008, 07:59 AM) [snapback]495169[/snapback]
Has Mentaljag got religion? What's come over hymn?

I believe faithfully in Hire Power, and my wee generator rental business is booming.
mortonjag 2008-08-15 08:21:43
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 15 2008, 12:23 AM) [snapback]495141[/snapback]
I 've edited that for you DR laugh.gif

Never in my wildest dreams could I conscience shagging a live pouffe.
mortonjag 2008-08-15 08:31:25
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 15 2008, 08:16 AM) [snapback]495176[/snapback]
BUT DON'T ask the Trust questions either, unless you shell out ten quid, and you'll still hear zilch unless you strike it lucky.

The Trust and 'The Club' make comfortable bedfellows.

The old Sugar Daddy has them exactly where he wants them, and they appear to feel quite comfy in their own myopic cocoon.
It must be great to have a "business" with well trained and compliant minority shareholders.

mushrooms ?

dark ?

fed ?

Treated like mushrooms, kept in the dark, and fed Fudgy Wudgy? mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-15 09:10:01
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Aug 15 2008, 08:51 AM) [snapback]495183[/snapback]
Folks,
I'm having some bother with the tannoy@gmfc.net email address at the moment, possibly due to the website host being changed.
So if you've email this week I've not received it!
Please leave any mentions/requests/travel announcements/social function details on here or email me at inverally@hotmail.com.
Thanks
Al

Live is life! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-15 09:12:20 What is the title of the book. Is it a naughty biography?
mortonjag 2008-08-15 09:40:12
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Aug 15 2008, 08:32 AM) [snapback]495180[/snapback]
I think, and thought at the time when I was going through college, that a 40% pass was a bit of a gip.

To be fair I always studied hard and my plan was always to get the best mark I could get based on the knowledge I had learned, so the exam was never a stresser for me - it was only testing what I was supposed to have learned. I always scored well and it worried me when I saw people who did the bare minimum scrape through and walk away with O-grades, HNC's or degrees which effectively meant nothing. For example when I completed my HNC in Electronic Engineering I don't think I had a pass mark below 80% and the average was probably higher. There were guys there with 40%'s who were downright f***ing dangerous around electricity. But the reality is to the outside world they were no different to me - they had the certificate, so did I. Bollocks racket altogether.

When I went back to complete my business degree I found the exact same thing. I studied like a good thing, put in hours and hours on my assessments and extra curricular work, and landed a first class honours with a GPA of 3.92. (I had one B+ in there which f***ed up the run of A's - Corporate Finance paper 2 - f***ed up the equation for risk equalisation and cost myself big time - in fairness though the lecturer had some set of doo's and wore fishies so I wasn't overly inconsolable). Anyway, at the last exam which was heavy in maths content - linear programming and simplex problem solving were staple diets of the exam paper - I looked around and the w*nker next to me is having a great time folding and unfolding his shirt sleeve to reveal the methodology for solving simplex problems (which can be a c*** believe me). I remember thinking "what's the f***ing point". This was at a recognised Dublin University with the invigilator no more than ten feet away. Anyway, come results time and this tulip still only scraped through.

So from O-Grade through my HNC in Eng, through my Mgt Diploma to the BBS - nothing changed.
People who really worked did well, people who did f*** all over achieved and still got their degree.

There's always plooky little f***ers who want to put in minimum effort in the vain hope they get a qualification. A qualification which means nothing because they have learned nothing - and a qualification which in a lot of circumstances makes them a f***ing danger to themselves and others.

Who's up for being operated on by a D- brain surgeon ? I'd be terrified that even a 90% pass on that one would be unlucky - what if the 10% he f***ed up is the bit he's about to go after on you ?

Nope - education has been dumbed down over the years - for political reasons mainly, but also because I think the younger folks have less appetite for the work and the discipline. Given that they ain't going to change the institutions changed the only thing they could to keep their reputations intact - scoring and ease of exam.

I realise from this rant that I am now appear to be an angry old man - but in the spirit of my education, I'm going to be the BEST angry old f***er I can be.

GranpawBroonInDublin

I know of only one PROPER university in Dublin TiD! blush.gif


Anyway, here's my tuppenceworth in relation to yours. I agree with almost everything you've said in general terms, but some undergraduate degree courses are effectively apprenticeships, while others have only a small impact on the subsequent career.

You mentioned Neurosurgery, and that's a good example in illustration. Any Neurosurgeon will tell you that the six (or five) years spent at University is largely irrelevant to his current work. A medical degree is little more than confirmation that you're reasonably intelligent and have grasped a bit of basic knowledge. The rest is all learned after graduation. Some of the worst (laziest too) students in my year went on to outstanding careers. As fate had it, I ultimately opted for General Practice. I learned virtually EVERYTHING that mattered after I became a junior partner.

Degrees from PROPER universities-at least in terms of signifying anything more than potential, are probably worth much less in real terms than degrees from 'jumped up' colleges of knowledge where skills are actually passed on!

If only youngsters could have a clear view of what they really want from life. I certainly admire and endorse Julie Anne's decision to learn at the 'coal face'. Harking back to your original point an 'apprentice' system of training for almost all life skills would empower the eradication of the inept, the slackers, and the wasters.
mortonjag 2008-08-15 09:50:16 .......and in breaking news, a survey COMMISSIONED BY THE SCOTTISH GOVERNMENT to assess the happiness of the Nation showed the Nation is happy!


Meanwhile a large pink round headed creature with a snout, trotters, a curly tail, and a saltire hinging' oot its erse took off from the Holyrood Helipad and was last spotted heading straight for Soutar Manor.
mortonjag 2008-08-15 10:03:05
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 15 2008, 09:54 AM) [snapback]495216[/snapback]
I'm sure if the three most miserable b*****ds on the planet, name you, Paul and Tom, had taken part in this survey the results would have been somewhat different. smile.gif



I can't speak for the others but,

I'm H A P P Y
I'm H A P P Y
I know I am
I'm sure I am
I'm H A P P Y! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-15 10:09:38
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Aug 15 2008, 10:00 AM) [snapback]495219[/snapback]
I agree 100% - I collected my O-grades at 16 and started with Nat-Semi as a trainee technician immediately.
One year full time at college then day release for another three till qualified (professionally and academically).
Then continue to learn your trade.

Unfortunatley Uni doesn't tech you too many life skills in and of itself.

As for only on PROPER Dublin University - I disagree - there's at least three I would class as excellent.

Suffice to say mine began with a T - don't know if that passes your sniff test or not !

TonInDublin

From that trinity, I'd imagine the one with the 'T' would be my only 'Proper' University! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-15 10:15:53
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 15 2008, 10:04 AM) [snapback]495226[/snapback]
Aye, just you keep telling yourself that MJ. rolleyes.gif



I'm not always convinced by the bible-take this for example


Matthew 6:27


King James Bible
Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature?

I have always believed in thinking big. The power of positive thinking can be huge, and I'm HAPPY! bouncy.gif bouncy.gif thumbup2.gif smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-15 10:20:36
QUOTE(Muz @ Aug 15 2008, 09:30 AM) [snapback]495198[/snapback]
"The King of Cappielow", there was a book signing in the Spinny last Saturday as far as I am aware.

Is it ghost written?
mortonjag 2008-08-15 10:29:09
QUOTE(Toby @ Aug 15 2008, 09:48 AM) [snapback]495208[/snapback]
Surely that's the same case as myself though. I used to give folk grief at games yet if I don't anymore I'm tarred with the brush of having done it in the past just like you used to stand puffing away at your filthy little cancer sticks with scant regard for anyone else yet now you've seen the light we can now overlook that?

Toby-you've told us you and your friend were welcomed to Cappielow in the form of season tickets/invitations to renew.

You've told us you were banned from Stenny's ground -apparently on the orders of a Morton official, who planned also to ban you from Cappielow, and to attempt to have you banned from all Scottish stadia.

It's been amusing to se the usual 'kick a man when he's down' stuff. Some folk are exceedingly petty! rolleyes.gif

Anyhow-do you have an update on the situation yet?

mortonjag 2008-08-15 10:35:04
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Aug 15 2008, 09:51 AM) [snapback]495212[/snapback]
You'd shag a dead one, then? unsure.gif

A stiff is a stiff.
mortonjag 2008-08-15 11:00:08
QUOTE(Toby @ Aug 15 2008, 10:45 AM) [snapback]495248[/snapback]
Not to put too fine a point on it, that is exactly what I think. It's no secret what Andy Bryan and myself think of each other, I've known him all my life and we despise each other. I also received a PM from someone yesterday suggesting involvement from Tony Cowden, which wouldn't surprise me bearing in mind I belittled him on the board that morning and we've never got on.

FWIW, I think that Morton don't want me and Gerry following them as we're "difficult" to say the least. However, barring us would open a whole can of worms and as chrissiboi said would be a worrying throwback to the Scott era. Also, we're too well known (and believe it or not liked) by some prominent members of the support, that upsetting these people and turning them against the administration of the club is not good PR. Another factor as to why the club would be too scared to bar me is the incident in which I was involved at Starks Park nearly 2 years ago when I stood up to the guys giving Marvin Andrews racial abuse. These guys were in hospitality the following week and are still free to go to Cappielow. In this PC environment in which we live nowadays, the people who are generally considered to be the lowest of the low are racists. If the club were to bar me, it would be extrememly easy for me to publically point out that they tolerate this sort of behaviour and to draw comparisons between that and my own.

Gillian Donaldson has already spoke to Gerry and I missed her call yesterday (since then I've not got through to her). She told Gerry that the club "value" our support and had they wanted to ban us they had ample opportunity after incidents outside Balmoor and Forthbank, although I wasn't involved in any incident outside Balmoor unsure.gif .

She then went on to tell him that we are not barred from Cappielow and that nobody from Morton FC was involved in trying to deny us entry to Ochilview. This was round about lunchtime yesterday she told him that so how in the space of a few hours, when pressumably she hadn't interviewed everyone that travelled with the official club party on Tuesday night she could reach such a damning conclusion is beyond me. That said though, they still don't know if the players took a dive in the title race 5 years ago so what chances of them carrying out an effective investigation into something like this?



The Club's official position then is that you are still welcome-that's good.

Toby, you are your own man, but if this had happened to me I couldn't rest until I found the truth. I don't think Mr Rae would be too pleased if one of his staff had instructed your ban at Stenny without his endorsement.

If the Shire wanted to ban you to make an example, surely they would have wanted you to KNOW they were getting the boot in, rather than blaming Morton.

I smell a weasel.
mortonjag 2008-08-15 11:03:38 I'm predicting a shut out for Cuthbert.

I reckon we're worth two. Newby's due a goal, and how about Jenkins?
mortonjag 2008-08-15 11:06:13
QUOTE(Toby @ Aug 15 2008, 11:04 AM) [snapback]495259[/snapback]
Rest assured I won't.

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mortonjag 2008-08-15 11:56:05
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Aug 14 2008, 10:04 PM) [snapback]495030[/snapback]
Not really. As long as they're not ridiculously out of proportion like WillowMans I'm happy. wub.gif



Willy Man in drag!
mortonjag 2008-08-15 12:08:40
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 15 2008, 12:04 AM) [snapback]495133[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

Now, I am confused.

How often do Morton FC hold board meetings overseas ?

And when they do is Golden Casket able to find new export markets for their sweeties ?

Or is Mr Donald out of the country on Golden Casket business ?

Mortonjag, you need to write a book - a wee thriller it could be.

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Mr Donald apparently resides in the Home Counties. Spurtle et al would confirm that that is 'Out of the country'! laugh.gif

QUOTE(ton5saints1 @ Aug 15 2008, 01:23 AM) [snapback]495148[/snapback]
So what we now know is that Alistair Donald was either a director, co-opted director or designated director (or all three for that matter) and appointed to the Morton F.C. Board sometime between January and July of this year.

I await with much interest his response to the Trust letter.

I'm also looking forward to another visit from Santa Claus.

Not QUITE true-he was appointed on 1st July. That's what he told Companies House when he came back into the country when he got round to signing form 288a.


I reckon that's just over five months after we were told we had a new director. Using that formula, there's a good chance the Trust will get a reply before Christmas!

I DO hope they sent the letter by recorded delivery. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-15 12:36:21
QUOTE(Toby @ Aug 15 2008, 12:20 PM) [snapback]495289[/snapback]
Six years ago, and we've been at every game at East Stirling or Stenhousemuir since so it's extremely unlikely we'd be recognised.

I've since spoke to Gillian Donaldson, was given a load of spiel and a 20 minute argument ensued. She's now phoning East stirling "on my behalf" to get to the bottom of it.

Funny how the club "value" our support, yet are not prepared to investigate our allegations that a member of staff has diliberately tried to stop us gaining access to a ground to watch Morton. You'd think they'd have some sort of duty of care to customers, yet, anything involving one of their own getting his knuckles wrapped is swiftly swept under the carpet.


That sounds probable.
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Aug 15 2008, 12:29 PM) [snapback]495292[/snapback]
Whon said it was someone from Morton Football Club? I suspect it lies with East Stirling. Why were you arguing with Gillian, is she not doing her best to help you out?

Why on earth would the Shire need to blame Morton, and why would they concoct a story about Morton intending to have them banned from Cappielow and every other Scottish ground?
mortonjag 2008-08-15 12:42:04
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Aug 15 2008, 12:30 PM) [snapback]495294[/snapback]
ohmy.gif ohmy.gif Oh ffs! ohmy.gif

Oops-mistaken identity?

I heard his twin brother's were smaller. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-15 12:46:46
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 14 2008, 11:09 PM) [snapback]495090[/snapback]
Due to hard times he started to sell his body for sex ohmy.gif

He's a proper RentBoy now and student life is getting in the way of him getting his backdoor kicked in several times a night.

So to answer your question MJ Leyton is a threat to your relationship with your Pouffe partner rolleyes.gif

Every man has his price!
mortonjag 2008-08-15 12:50:26
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Aug 15 2008, 12:39 PM) [snapback]495301[/snapback]
I think he should contact East Stirling directly HIMSELF, stop listening to all this he said she said s***. I know i would.

He may well have done so, and they may well have passed the buck to Morotn whom they claim were responsible! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-15 13:35:03
QUOTE(Toby @ Aug 15 2008, 01:12 PM) [snapback]495318[/snapback]
Gillian's been in contact with Les Thompson at East Stirling who tells her that there was an incident in the bar before the game and we were asked to leave.

As I've said before this is not the case although it would seemingly clear anyone from Morton of blame, at least in East Stirling's eyes. However, the stewards did tell us that an official of Morton told them not to let us in so clearly someone's lying, I'll have to get in touch with East Stirling for them to confirm.

She took on board my points about minions with agendas and said it's not the case having spoken to them. would always expect them to deny it though. Apparently nobody within Cappielow has anything personal against us, which I don't believe to be the case obviously.

I'll be allowed into tomorrow's game barring exceptional circumstances (i.e. I turn up roaring drunk, which won't be the case as I'm working at night), but tbh for the first time in my life I don't even want to go. I probably will go, but my feelings towards Morton are at an all time low.

Lucky boys then!!! This is from P & B! laugh.gif






Mabawsa_Ritchie

May 28 2008, 17:09
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Hear, hear! MJ is an utter t*rd who has spoiled the Morton unofficial site. His dislike of our Chairman is bordering on the psychotic. Not at all funny, and not half as clever as he thinks he is (he is NOT a Doctor BTW).









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mortonjag 2008-08-15 13:49:45
QUOTE(Toby @ Aug 15 2008, 01:41 PM) [snapback]495330[/snapback]
This was brought to the public's attention long before I "spouted" anything off. you may care to note that I mentioned earlier that his season ticket hasn't been returned, although I think he should have, no point in not carrying out a threat etc.

Of course it was something to do with a member of staff at East Stirling, they're all very well aware of McInally's two most vocal critics from his previous club. Unless we were involved in some trouble at the bar?


There are still two sides to the story.

1/ What WAS said to you and witnessed, and the reasons given AT THE TIME.

2/ What is now being claimed is the true version, after officials from both clubs have had the opportunity to discuss the matter.

I know which version I choose to believe! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-15 13:56:25
QUOTE(Benny Boy @ Aug 15 2008, 01:28 PM) [snapback]495324[/snapback]
So it's Saturday 11 to 12 at Smiths then?

By the way, Mortonjag, can you please stop polluting threads like this with your random garbage. You are just not a funny guy.

I asked if it is an autobiography or if it has a 'ghost writer' Thankfully JonaTON has had the wit and intelligence to understand plain English.

Will you now be blaming me for the cancellation too? rip.gif thumbdown.gif crying.gif eek.gif nerd.gif bag.gif 1eye.gif wacko.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-15 13:59:58
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Aug 15 2008, 01:56 PM) [snapback]495333[/snapback]
What time is this cancellation at, and where is it being canceled?

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Benny boy may have a good answer for that random and unfunny splurge! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-15 15:12:43
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Jun 18 2008, 10:02 PM) [snapback]462187[/snapback]
Only someone with the true interests of Morton a heart would do that. This is MJ we're talking about.

Hmm.

QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Jun 18 2008, 10:05 PM) [snapback]462188[/snapback]
Danny, Alistair Donald is still a non-Exec Director of Morton FC. Nothing has changed, despite MJ's best efforts to suggest otherwise. As an ex-civil servant, I can assure you that Companies House is as efficient as the Home Office in their keeping records up-to-date. smile.gif

As a retired G.P. let me assure you that you come over as a self satisfied 'nobody' who thinks he knows far more than he does! smile.gif

QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Jun 18 2008, 10:26 PM) [snapback]462205[/snapback]
What stuff? As regards the Donald issue, is Morton responsible for the efficient running of Companies House now?

Nope scrote scratcher-Companies House was correct all along it seems!!! bouncy.gif

QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Jun 21 2008, 10:20 PM) [snapback]464461[/snapback]
Not quite correct Danny as I think I confirmed unequivocally that Mr Donald is still a non-executive Director of GMFC Ltd. smile.gif

Was that a DELIBERATE lie or just another of your endless 'mistakes'? dry.gif

QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Jun 27 2008, 07:34 PM) [snapback]467741[/snapback]
Did Crawford Rae not say it was due to Mr Donald being out of the country? mellow.gif

Oh yes he did, and at the time I was unaware that the FORM COULD HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED ON LINE. I'm surprised that YOU didn't know that too-AND Crawford, and AD!

QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Jun 27 2008, 10:27 PM) [snapback]467866[/snapback]
How would anyone on here know that? Why don't you email Crawford Rae like your pal MJ? laugh.gif laugh.gif

You seemed to know EVERYTHING up till then! I was SO disappointed in you at that point! rolleyes.gif



P.S.

There are several posters who have disappeared off this thread like snow from the proverbial dyke.

You were far from the worst offender and I'm sorry to have singled you out scrotum scratcher, but up until today I believed you were a bona fide private poster. Now it appears you are on Mr Rae's payroll.

Please accept my most humble apologies if anything I've said or implied is incorrect, but unlike your good self, mortonjag is rarely wrong.


Oh, and regarding that wee post on P & B. which I quoted on the current 'Toby' thread.

In future before you make statements of 'fact' about my professional qualifications-please check your details! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-15 15:24:36
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Aug 15 2008, 02:08 PM) [snapback]495337[/snapback]
Yes, bu this isnt the X-Files MJ, although some of it is going that way blink.gif

Really!! laugh.gif

The Jag has a 'nose' for the truth Vader-trained to carefully observe symptoms and signs, collate information, and make prognosis. This thread links quite nicely with the Alistair Donald one on that basis.

Simple really-if Shire had it in for Toby and Gerry, they'd have taken pleasure in making that VERY obvious, rather than blaming the Ton.

Toby has proposed an explanation (supported by some private information), which I find infinitely more plausible. Again there is a link to my latest posting on the AD thread. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-15 16:55:33
QUOTE(cmdc @ Aug 15 2008, 03:22 PM) [snapback]495362[/snapback]
Isn't that simply because the thread has run its course? There was an issue, correctly raised, that has now been answered. Not filling the form out online doesn't seem like an issue, nor can any amount of activity on this thread shed any more light on his intentions than those he has already made public in the 'Tele. Beyond that, there doen't seem much left to discuss.

There is a share issue 'on the go' -a share issue which was launched on the understanding that Mr Donald was a Director of the Club at a time when in fact he had no responsibility in that capacity.

The Club went to some lengths to reassure fans that he WAS a Director when he was not. The Club published his name on its official Programme as a Director when he was not.

That would all have made sense had Mr Donald given his date of appointment as January. He did not.

The Trust has apparently asked legitimate questions as the fans 'shareholder' and requested a reply. That has not been forthcoming. Several posters and potential investors have expressed a desire to know if Mr Donald intends to purchase shares. Their questions remain unanswered. Several posters are still extremely suspicious of potential new investment in the post Scott years. They have received no reassurance. The questions I posed initially remain unanswered. I don't think the thread has run its course!



QUOTE(Bryan @ Aug 15 2008, 03:37 PM) [snapback]495367[/snapback]
you or anyone can ask us anything you like and we can try and get you an answer smile.gif

laugh.gif OK-What's the score with Alistair Donald? blush.gif

QUOTE(maccaboy @ Aug 15 2008, 03:51 PM) [snapback]495375[/snapback]
I've avoided this thread for weeks, and having finally scanned it today it seems to me that the above post sums things up very nicely. Old Dr Knowall has long since had his question answered but continues, with some assistance, to make a mountain where a molehill would've been more than was justified. Any time interest flags he lobs yet another stone at the wasps' nest he's created and then stands back to laugh at the angry response that follows.

FFS, guys, take a look at the bloody thing - over 700 posts and about 32,500 "hits" (albeit 90% or so will have been from about 30 people) - for gawd's sake let it lie, don't rise to the old clown stirring it up any more and move on.......
*edited to add - if you should decide to respond to this, Moronjag, you'll be wasting your time as far as I'm concerned - I won't be back on this thread, and ye'r blocked anyway. Life on here is sooo much better thanks to the "huff button " - I commend its use to one and all.

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mortonjag 2008-08-15 17:03:30
QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Aug 15 2008, 04:43 PM) [snapback]495390[/snapback]
laugh.gif Good god jag, that is arrogant even for you! You can now sniff out the truth because you used to be doctor! You should make a tv show starring you about a doctor that solves crimes, oh wait, there is one, Diagnosis Murder i believe, starring D1ck Van Dyke. Next you'l be be saying thats loosely based on your life story!
What has happened to us!!!? Since when do we call fellow Ton fans moronic for slagging off a referee? Iv really heard it all now.

Your claim-not mine! I merely alluded to my training, and to the FACT that I have a nose for the truth. If the truth EVER comes out, we shall see if I am correct or not! smile.gif

QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Aug 15 2008, 04:54 PM) [snapback]495393[/snapback]
I'm not, and I have the certificate to prove it biggrin.gif

If Dunoon Ton's opinion of my ability is anything to go on Weegie, you'd be as well tearing up that wee 'favour' I did for you! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-15 17:37:30
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Aug 15 2008, 05:04 PM) [snapback]495399[/snapback]
General Nonsense for this pish surely.

General Morton Chatter for this debate.

Do you have anything sensible to contribute, or is this just a further example of resentment? biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-15 17:44:49
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Aug 15 2008, 05:10 PM) [snapback]495406[/snapback]
laugh.gif Don't make me go back there. You promised laugh.gif

You won't go back Weegie-you can trust me. Everybody should trust me! blush.gif

QUOTE(Toby @ Aug 15 2008, 05:18 PM) [snapback]495415[/snapback]
Therein lies a major problem though. I can only speak for myself, as I've not discussed this with Gerry, but I don't know if I can enjoy supporting Morton from now on. There's no point in lying, I will be at Cappielow tomorrow, whether I want to go or not, but will be going with a massive chip on my shoulder. The feeling of mistrust between both parties is massive, and all my energies are getting channelled negatively towards the club.

Morton have effectively sent out a message imo that we are allowed to go to games but are not welcome at games. I told Gillian that I believe they want to ban us but won't because of the negative reaction it would receive from supporters' who back us up and whilst she said that's not the case I definitely feel there's something in that.

It reminds me of two cases. First of all was a good mate of mine, capitanus. After years of going to hick-towns like Alloa, Forfar and Cowdenbeath; the minute we were promoted, he just chucked it and went as far as to say he's not even a Morton fan such was his dismay at the running of the club. This was after success had finally been achieved. The other is of the guy on P & B who purports to being a former St. Mirren fan, Stuart Dickson. Such is his resentment to them that he posts constantly on there about how much he hates them. I don't think I could be like that, but it's a very sad day for me when I'm asking myself whether or not I'm a Morton fan

The relationship between the club and supporters in general is abysmal. It's hardly surprising that you feel alienated for speaking your mind. Don't they hate us when we tell the truth! blush.gif

QUOTE(cmdc @ Aug 15 2008, 05:35 PM) [snapback]495426[/snapback]
For the little that it's worth, I would think after Forthbank (and again I'm only going by what I've read on here) I think the fact that they are not particularly welcoming you to games is understandable. Going by what I've read on here, by your own accounts, you crossed a line, and although you had the guts to hold your hands up to that I can't say it is unreasonable of the club to hold you in some disregard. Nor for that matter do I think you ought to be banned or anything like that. Like I said on a previous post, I think you just need to accept that particular relationship as it is, and see if you can enjoy what goes on on the park in the meantime.

Aye-he dared to make his feelings felt-and he was CORRECT!
mortonjag 2008-08-15 17:49:50
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Aug 15 2008, 03:39 PM) [snapback]495368[/snapback]
Its a biography I think, the guy who wrote it is from Hartlepool and I remember there being an article about it in the Tele a few months ago.

TY. Andy was truly a 'Morton Great', and something of an enigma. If Jock Stein had had more patience he might well have gone on to greater things. From a selfish viewpoint I'm so glad he didn't. I'll definitely be reading the book.
mortonjag 2008-08-15 17:57:46
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Aug 15 2008, 04:13 PM) [snapback]495380[/snapback]
On yer byke, you - and watch you don't get hives

That is just SO witty that I've just pished myself laughing. I suspect you have intimate knowledge of insects! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-15 18:00:16
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 15 2008, 04:14 PM) [snapback]495381[/snapback]
Never trust someone who claims to be happy. mad.gif thumbdown.gif

Never trust distrustful people-they are sad b*stards.
mortonjag 2008-08-15 18:03:07
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Aug 15 2008, 12:45 PM) [snapback]495305[/snapback]
She will need a bloody wheelbarrow to cart them around! ohmy.gif

It's so true MrsT. All very well for those eager young men to drool at massive jugs, but they've made many a woman's life a huge burden.
mortonjag 2008-08-15 18:06:35
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 15 2008, 05:08 PM) [snapback]495403[/snapback]
Is MJ outing himself? unsure.gif

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDMortonjag has an open mind.
mortonjag 2008-08-15 18:21:29
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Aug 15 2008, 06:10 PM) [snapback]495448[/snapback]
I believe all boobies should be judged on their own merits. Size is irrelevant.

King James Bible
And said unto him, Hearest thou what these say? And Jesus saith unto them, Yea; have ye never read, Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings thou hast perfected praise?
mortonjag 2008-08-15 18:24:17
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Aug 15 2008, 05:12 PM) [snapback]495409[/snapback]
It's listed in the "What's On" column in the Daily Record today Davie.

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Good old McArthur gets more publicity that the Ton!
mortonjag 2008-08-15 18:57:39
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 15 2008, 06:41 PM) [snapback]495454[/snapback]
Well, you are at that age.... wink.gif

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There is no need to discuss mortonjag's medical details on a pubic massage board. He is still totally continent of faeces-well almost totally. tongue.gif He can sit here for hours without having to visit the little boys' room.
mortonjag 2008-08-15 19:35:21
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 15 2008, 07:12 PM) [snapback]495463[/snapback]
Get off your cross. Nobody's dancing on his grave.

Has he been interred already?
mortonjag 2008-08-15 19:40:01 WANTED-GRAND PIANO-for lady with Queen Anne legs.
mortonjag 2008-08-15 19:53:21
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 15 2008, 07:36 PM) [snapback]495469[/snapback]
That's because we're not fronted by a grump old man....oh, wait...... rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2008-08-15 20:39:17
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 15 2008, 07:58 PM) [snapback]495475[/snapback]
just to make it clear that we're all talking about the same thing here, please define:

1) the 'share issue'

2) 'on the go' (apparently it's open for 5 years?)

3) the understanding

and what difference it makes to you personally (from an investment perspective). it's not clear to me whether you have a legitimate interest or whether you're just playing with your spurtle.

basically, you're miffed that you still don't know what's in alistair's handbag. laugh.gif

you have tried asking him, haven't you? laugh.gif

Before I make anything clear Alistair, I desperately know if you have yet sent that impacted old friend off to the seaside.

QUOTE(Bryan @ Aug 15 2008, 08:07 PM) [snapback]495476[/snapback]
we have asked smile.gif when we know you will tongue.gif

Thank you Brian!
mortonjag 2008-08-15 20:50:21
QUOTE(Bryan @ Aug 15 2008, 08:41 PM) [snapback]495480[/snapback]
but if you spell my name wrong i dunno if i will ph34r.gif

I apologise profusely-that must be a first-suffice to say that I've been dealing with a medical problem for the previous poster and was somewhat distracted!

I promise it will not happen ever again! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-15 21:03:00
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 15 2008, 08:55 PM) [snapback]495484[/snapback]
which quasi-english language are we trying to speak here?

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rolleyes.gif

My brother sends his regards and enquires after the pigmented mole on your scrotum. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-15 21:06:22
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Aug 15 2008, 08:14 PM) [snapback]495477[/snapback]
Rating, sorted. wink.gif

Your a dab hand with the ratings MrsT-well seen Greenock's a seaport! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-15 21:10:10
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 15 2008, 09:04 PM) [snapback]495488[/snapback]
well no, you haven't been dealing with it laugh.gif

We have been talking at cross purposes it would appear-I could swear I sent the stuff to Trumpington-now I'm thinking it may have gone to Watlington! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-15 21:21:25 I see David McGregor's having a hernia operation! Hopefully it will ensure rupturous applause on his return to fitness.
mortonjag 2008-08-15 21:26:32
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 15 2008, 09:20 PM) [snapback]495496[/snapback]
:yawn:

i presume you were able to read and understand the earlier post, spurtle?

I can think of very few of your posts which have been intelligible Bawheid-I'm rather preoccupied with the destination of that package. Hopefully the future of the Ton is not about to be blown to smithereens.
mortonjag 2008-08-15 21:41:26
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 15 2008, 09:33 PM) [snapback]495501[/snapback]
bawheid is another (and sorely missed) poster mad.gif

your silence is welcome, if uninvited tongue.gif

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In the same vein Letitia

1/ What is the most common cause of a black hairy tongue?


2/ Which IUCD would you recommend for the nulliparous?


3/ How would you treat toxic shock syndrome? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-15 21:45:02
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 15 2008, 09:36 PM) [snapback]495502[/snapback]
that joke doesn't work, even after it's been edited tongue.gif

Don't try to second guess the editor-miracles are possible to the faithful.
mortonjag 2008-08-15 21:48:13
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 15 2008, 09:28 PM) [snapback]495500[/snapback]
it's a somewhat questionable way of differentiating the under-18s and grouchos from the robust adults laugh.gif

None so robust as your good self Priscilla! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-15 22:16:34
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 15 2008, 09:49 PM) [snapback]495508[/snapback]
that's in a different vein darling, and your pathetic evasion is noted.

One man's pathos is another man's pathology Alistair. Will you be visiting Cappielow tomorrow? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-15 22:18:53
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 15 2008, 09:46 PM) [snapback]495506[/snapback]
mortonjag raises an interesting point. we should recruit our neurosurgeons from 16-year old school leavers and cut out all that wasted time.

just goes to show that medicine isn't a proper subject biggrin.gif

That would be an exceedingly prudent ploy provided they had adequate neurones themselves.
mortonjag 2008-08-15 22:20:35
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 15 2008, 09:53 PM) [snapback]495510[/snapback]
i prefer the groucho line smile.gif

OK-Marks out of ten 8.33
mortonjag 2008-08-15 22:23:45
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Aug 15 2008, 10:16 PM) [snapback]495518[/snapback]
Okay, HOW can that woman walk? And WHY would she do that to herself (those are definitely fake!).

Nasty woman!

Trick-the sad news is that they ain't-and that really IS sad, and she's going to need reduction mammoplasty soon or she will indeed end up with chronic spinal problems.


Oh and once they've been chopped off Willy Man-they're yours for the asking! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-15 22:25:56
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 15 2008, 09:51 PM) [snapback]495509[/snapback]
it wouldn't be a miracle, it would be a cruel blow.

Like the NE wind, or tyrannical flatus-hmm-I tend to concur on that one!
mortonjag 2008-08-16 06:31:47
QUOTE(midTONs @ Aug 16 2008, 12:13 AM) [snapback]495559[/snapback]
my take on the whole thing is as follows, both lads were not refused entry to the ground for anything that happened within the social club, that story has been manufactured to cover up for someone. If the instructions did not come from mcinally or clarke then it came from someone connected with the club who acted not on the clubs instructions but for thier own satisfaction. One way or another the lads should continue to root out the truth.

If it came from JM it must be the most aggressive thing he's done for five seasons.

Compared to Craig Levein, for example, his complete lack of emotion sticks out a mile. After that outrageous C*nt Thomson refereeing farce at Hamilton, he meekly took his punishment while the rest of us were still fuming. If he managed to instigate this, the Shire are about to get promotion! laugh.gif laugh.gif

QUOTE(Clydebuilt @ Aug 16 2008, 02:25 AM) [snapback]495600[/snapback]
This whole thread about poor wee Russell & Gerry getting refused entry on Wednesday is a total f***ing joke.

They gave McInally (and players) dogs abuse for months and not just of the 90 minute variety (Stirling away?) . Their abuse led to them getting booted out of at least St. Johnstone, & can't remember what the outcome at Dundee was.

By hook or by crook, McInally made sure they weren't getting in on Wednesday night. Given the grief he took, can't say I blame him for making sure they couldn't get in to continue it.

Bleating about how badly they've been treated and crying for investigatons is totally pathetic. So much for the hard man boo boys - as soon as they get a wee dig back, they're away greeting like weans. I suppose it at least gives Mortonjag something to wet his knickers over.........

Are you another of Rae's insider weasels masquerading as a bona fide poster?

QUOTE(Clydebuilt @ Aug 16 2008, 03:41 AM) [snapback]495607[/snapback]
Eh, where did I say shouting at an incompetent manager is wrong?

Not sure what your "unsure" thing means. I've stated my view i.e.

Booted out of St. Johnstone - deffo

Booted out of Dens Park - there was some verbal aggro, can't recall the outcome (i.e. was bored to tears with abuse towards a resigned management team, so switched off)

The only drama queen about here is Toby!!

The real drama queens are the arseholes who without an original thought in their pin brains, jump at every opportunity to score cheap points out of others' misfortune. mad.gif

QUOTE(Toby @ Aug 16 2008, 04:34 AM) [snapback]495612[/snapback]
You really think McInally went out his way to get us barred from that game? Come on, give the guy some credit. Surely he had better things to do at the time other than that, such as picking a team to try and beat one from two divisions above them, I'd have thought that would've been at the forefront of his mind rather than trying to get one over two guys who's names he probably doesn't even know.

Could go over the Stirling thing again, but it's tedious so all I've got to say about that is that EVERYTHING I said to him that day was correct and all I take back is the manner in which it came across. Don't take back any sentiments. We were kicked out of St. Johnstone for continuously standing, the final straw being when we stood to contest a decision, but that wouldn't fit in too well with your story and you can't remember the outcome of dundee, why? Because weren't thrown out or because the person who really made a complete arse of himself that day was the stupid old fool that tried to strangle me because I said on a messageboard alot less about his mate Andy Bryan than the filth he's posted on here about Gerry? Again, that's not what your audience want to hear.

As for my bleating, I got a phone call off someone who was reading this board whilst I was watching the game from outside Ochilview on Wednesday night so this was brought up long before I put my tuppence worth in. Bearing in mind how much of a part of my life going to watch Morton is, of course I'm going to be asking questions and trying to find out how this has all come about. Had I not posted on the subject, it would still be a relevant subject worth talking about amongst others on the board. What if I hadn't posted? Toby's not got the balls to comment on this?????
Okay I'll accept drama queen. Thanks very much for keeping me in the limelight, I'm absolutely loving this blush.gif .

Interesting point of note, you clearly have a problem with myself and Gerry (although not to our faces when you always say hello) and whilst you're very careful not to mention it appear to feel we shouldn't be allowed into Cappielow as we are trouble at games. I'd like to ask do you feel the same across the board about the Morton support? I wasn't around at the time of the MSC days but pressumably you feel the same about them? Or is it different as they were proper hardmen boo boys and not greeting weans to use your terminology?

Never has the rift between the 'Establishment' and the true fans been so great since the Hugh's Cot days. Rae has done an excellent job in establishing his sub-culture of forum spies. The sycophancy at Cappielow beggars belief!

If the club doesn't take a long hard look at customer relations very soon, something is liable to burst. Only 2,600 at last Saturday's game-can the Old Fud not see the damage he's done and continues to do?

It's clearly become 'us' and 'them', and as far as I'm concerned, anybody who doesn't support Toby on this is one of 'them'. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-16 06:42:13
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 15 2008, 10:33 PM) [snapback]495524[/snapback]
sadly, no.

but will you be rising to the (twice-repeated) challenge:

just to make it clear that we're all talking about the same thing here, please define:

1) the 'share issue'

2) 'on the go' (apparently it's open for 5 years?)

3) the understanding

and what difference it makes to you personally (from an investment perspective). it's not clear to me whether you have a legitimate interest or whether you're just playing with your spurtle.

laugh.gif

An onlooker might be forgiven for thinking you have an unnatural interest in this Alistair. Everything I say is said in very clear terms. If you are unable to understand plain English, I'm afraid that's hardly my problem.

I fully understand the response you desire, and I know exactly what you will say if it is forthcoming.

This little fishy's not hungry my friend! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-16 06:54:41 In perfect condition, this season book provides access to an excellent vantage point at the heart of the Main Stand. Regrettably the current holder will be out of the Country almost all season.

No reasonable offer refused.

E-mail itchybaws@gmfc.net blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-16 06:58:36
QUOTE(Clarks-ton @ Aug 16 2008, 12:34 AM) [snapback]495574[/snapback]
Agreed, nice looking site, links on tomorrows game are taking you directly to the BBC Scotland sports page. We should be getting this information directly from the club, i.e. players availability, updates on injuries etc etc without having to go to an external site. Old site was designed in consultation with Morton and I understand it was they"the Club" who wanted control of the updates and not the web hosts. Money and shoestring spring to mind.

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mortonjag 2008-08-16 07:04:09
QUOTE(capitanus @ Aug 15 2008, 11:29 PM) [snapback]495547[/snapback]
Tell the truth ya auld tadger, you just want to blackball me because i'm not a potential recruit for the Eastwood Tories.

I think the retired CrawfordJag could be tempted with the luncheons at Parklands and after-dinner hilarity courtesy of Dean Park, but thats not quite my scene. wink.gif

I would never knock back a free lunch ticket! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-16 07:07:59
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 15 2008, 11:43 PM) [snapback]495551[/snapback]
Better !! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Rampant lions being led by a dead donkey, Spurtle.
mortonjag 2008-08-16 07:09:39
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 16 2008, 12:40 AM) [snapback]495579[/snapback]
If the area is re-opened then it aint a shooting, well not a fatal one.

Our thoughts are not yet with the family.
mortonjag 2008-08-16 07:12:30 Many happy returns of this day! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-16 07:15:37
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 16 2008, 12:38 AM) [snapback]495578[/snapback]
Thank you blush.gif
Well eating out was binned but I managed to get them tickets to Wild Child's premier tonight, well it's 1st showing in Greenock tongue.gif

I felt like a pervert as I was the oldest person there and only one of three guys.

Sitting in amongst about 100 14-18yr old scantily clad girls is not good for a guy my age.
Sitting standing? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-16 07:19:57
QUOTE(carlito @ Aug 16 2008, 12:35 AM) [snapback]495576[/snapback]
You spelled her name wrong. ph34r.gif

Wrongly!

QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 16 2008, 12:44 AM) [snapback]495581[/snapback]
The correct terminology is Spelt laugh.gif

.....OR spelled!
mortonjag 2008-08-16 07:48:02
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 16 2008, 07:42 AM) [snapback]495624[/snapback]
Old Dr Knowall has long since had his question answered but continues, with some assistance, to make a mountain where a molehill
Gidday maccaboy,

It would appear to me that the good doctor has received most assistance from Cappielow.

Or more precisely, from Cappielow's silence.

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I cannot speak to maccaboy directly Newt as he hides under his little huff button because he cannot stand up to the mighty Jag! sleep.gif

Perhaps you could quote this post for his benefit.

Maccaboy, are you another of Mr Rae's undercover agents masquerading as a bona fide poster?
mortonjag 2008-08-16 07:49:48
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 16 2008, 07:45 AM) [snapback]495625[/snapback]
Was it not posted here a few months ago that "The Hardest Thing In The World" is the old doctor's wrinkly old appendage ?

However, that may have been an opinion, rather than a cold hard fact.

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mortonjag 2008-08-16 08:03:29
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 16 2008, 07:58 AM) [snapback]495634[/snapback]
FAO Maccapouffe.

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mortonjag 2008-08-16 08:20:08
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 16 2008, 08:09 AM) [snapback]495642[/snapback]
You are actually getting to that stage were I - and I'm sure others - know what a topic is going to be about before opening the thread you have started!

It's known in Psychology as conditioning, young man! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-16 08:21:41
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 16 2008, 07:52 AM) [snapback]495631[/snapback]
Well I'm offski to England shortly to return the monkeys to Mummy Ape.

As I was paying for the tickets I came to a deal with her to travel 1hr 10mins from Preston to Carlise, you've no idea how hard that was, and I'll travel the 1hr 20mins to Carlisle from Glasgow.

I'll be in Carlisle about half an hour then back up the road so I'll make the game.

I can't believe how much of a co-incidence it was that the trains just happened to be running perfectly for me to get back up the road for a pint in The Willow before going to Scapa tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-08-16 08:22:47
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 16 2008, 08:12 AM) [snapback]495646[/snapback]
I did actually know she uses another spelling but for searching this spelling gives the most results happy.gif

Thi munky sez pugz izza gude spehlur.
mortonjag 2008-08-16 08:26:07
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 16 2008, 07:17 AM) [snapback]495622[/snapback]
Comedy gold MJ, comedy gold laugh.gif

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I see wee Nickerless is at it again-arguing with oncology specialists who claim that paperwork is damaging patient care. It's in today's Herald on line-I'd copy and paste but Bryan would run over my toes again, and I can't work those bloody link thingies.
mortonjag 2008-08-16 08:27:28
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 16 2008, 08:02 AM) [snapback]495638[/snapback]
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Does MrsT know Trick's mother ?

Maybe Upaclose knows ?

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Trick's mother lives up a close?
mortonjag 2008-08-16 08:55:46
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 16 2008, 08:23 AM) [snapback]495652[/snapback]
And it is known everywhere else as a stuck record smile.gif

laugh.gif That is indeed the manner in which conditioning is achieved, though subjects are at liberty to 'switch off', should they so desire.

Were they not, it might be termed indoctrination!

Another term in psychology is 'fatal attraction' and describes a condition in which a subject finds something irresistibly attractive despite knowing it is harmful! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif




Always happy to inform and instruct!
mortonjag 2008-08-16 08:57:43
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 16 2008, 08:32 AM) [snapback]495657[/snapback]
The job ain't finished till the paperwork is done rolleyes.gif

The job can't be finished if too much paperwork is demanded!
mortonjag 2008-08-16 09:03:03
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 16 2008, 08:29 AM) [snapback]495656[/snapback]
Munk's a wee liar happy.gif

Munx-actually-or so he claims.

He's asking if you're going to the game today or further developing your bilateral masseteric hypertrophy?
mortonjag 2008-08-16 09:16:32
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Aug 16 2008, 09:10 AM) [snapback]495664[/snapback]
I was always partial to a man in a uniform. wub.gif

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Willy Man will be popping in here at lunchtime I'd imagine!



Army & Navy Surplus Store

1016, Argyle St, Glasgow, Lanarkshire G3 8LX
Tel: 0141 564 1146
mortonjag 2008-08-16 09:31:56
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 16 2008, 09:24 AM) [snapback]495666[/snapback]
I stand by my original point, you're all mad, including George and Colin.

Point or opinion Mr McArthur-I have NEVER pled sanity, but cannot speak for others! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-16 11:12:21
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 16 2008, 10:01 AM) [snapback]495674[/snapback]
Pot. Kettle. Black.

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In this case you've got it quite wrong, and I resent that comment. Have another think about what I said please!

QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 16 2008, 10:17 AM) [snapback]495677[/snapback]
I was one of Toby and Gerry's biggest critics, not for having strongly held opinions about McInally/Clark but for what they did about them. At a human level, I would not have given a dog the personal abuse and vitriol that was delivered to him. Toby says that he has changed his ways and, it looks like he has - there's been no repeats of any of these sort of incidents for a long time and so whoever was responsible for Wednesday night's fiasco maybe needs to take a look at themselves. Its long past time that these incidents should be forgotton.

I sort of half share MJ's view, I don't think that McInally was necessarily responsible but I suspect he was by proxy. I think someone has taken it upon himself to be JMc's guardian - whether JMc knew about it or not - and has organised refusal of entry.

I met Toby and Gerry face to face for the first time at Tow Law. In fact we shared a car back to Durham and they struck me as two decent guys with a strong passion for the club. Its very sad that the current situation has come about. They do though, have to take a degree of personal responsibility in that your past will come back to haunt you.

I would just say to Gerry and Toby that the club is bigger than whoever organised this. It will be here long after anyone presently connected with the club has gone and so you should separate your feelings for the club from your issues with whichever individuals you think are responsible.

And finally, for MJ, I don't agree with a lot of what Mabawsa has written but I do agree with him that your fixation on the chairman seems to border on obsessive and there will not be many posters on here, either pro or anti your general stance will disagree with that!

That's merely stating the obvious, and I question your motives in making the comment! rolleyes.gif

You are an 'Establishment' man through and through Tonsilitis. You have repeatedly 'had a go' at me in the past for daring to call the Rae dynasty in question! I don't think that's being particularly helpful in general terms, unless you believe that everything is 'just dandy' down Scapa way.

I AM obsessed with the farce that is Greenock Morton -a farce which apparently includes inappropriate use of power and privileged information by its employees. I despise tyranny in all forms, and abhor the scant regard in which Rae appears to hold his paying customers.

Complacency is the fans greatest enemy. Scott knew that.. We need more impassioned folk if we are to nudge the Club forward and out of its current Dickensian warp.

One final point-when heckling of politicians is seen as an integral part of democracy, why do you see Toby's treatment of a pair of incompetents who were collecting good salaries while taking us for a ride, as 'personal abuse and vitriol unfit for your dog'?

For an intelligent and mature man, you display a remarkably childlike deference to perceived authority. That is your prerogative, as is mine to do otherwise.
mortonjag 2008-08-16 11:19:35
QUOTE(Clydebuilt @ Aug 16 2008, 10:43 AM) [snapback]495692[/snapback]
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You're the biggest drama queen I've ever know MJ!! laugh.gif laugh.gif

Have we met?

QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 16 2008, 11:11 AM) [snapback]495705[/snapback]
Excellent. Think I'll hijack every thread with Mouse Eat Mouse. It's no different to what MJ does with his nonsense. rolleyes.gif

Aye right-some 'two bit' and passe rock band's dirges will sure get us to the SPL pronto. If you can get a choon sorted out I'll write you suitable genre lyrics for:

'Fudgy Wudgy Choked my Budgie' laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-16 11:23:22
QUOTE(Toby @ Aug 16 2008, 11:17 AM) [snapback]495709[/snapback]
Fancy drawing up a CV for me? Think the tooth rotter might end up giving me a job in customer relations by the end of this if he's to listen to you tongue.gif !

I take it you are referring to the Chairman of Greenock Morton Football Club-Duncan Douglas Faulds Rae, known with varying degrees of affection as DDFR! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-16 11:26:23
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 16 2008, 11:19 AM) [snapback]495712[/snapback]
Get over yourself. This is only an internet forum after all. rolleyes.gif

You made a comment which was inaccurate and thoughtless. I asked you to reconsider what you said.

Have you done that?
mortonjag 2008-08-16 11:38:00
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 16 2008, 08:58 AM) [snapback]495660[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-08-16 11:43:14
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 16 2008, 11:37 AM) [snapback]495723[/snapback]
In what way was it 'inaccurate and thoughtless'? rolleyes.gif

It MAY have been given considerable thoughtful research. It was entirely inaccurate.

If the former is correct, the latter lowers my opinion of your intellectual capacity even further.
mortonjag 2008-08-16 12:02:19
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 16 2008, 11:46 AM) [snapback]495733[/snapback]
Well, that is your opinion and you're entitled to it. As am I entitled to mine. wink.gif smile.gif


I said:


'The real drama queens are the arseholes who without an original thought in their pin brains, jump at every opportunity to score cheap points out of others' misfortune'.

You said:


'Pot, kettle, black'.


If indeed that is your opinion, to which you are of course entitled, I invite you to furnish substantial evidence to support your conclusion.

Failure to do so will galvanise my impression that you are a somewhat facile young lad with a slightly stubborn streak to your nature! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 06:55:02
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 16 2008, 12:55 PM) [snapback]495755[/snapback]
I hope both guys can get over their rightful disappointment of this incident . If it was anything to do with McInally or East Stirling why did anyone say to Toby or Gerry that there were plans to ban them from other football grounds .

I see there is a plea by DDFR for more fans to come along after last weeks disappointing crowd yet 2 supporters were denied access and the clubs name was mentioned in the excuse given in the refusal .

If no employee from Cappielow was involved then surely our chairman should be demanding an explaination of what went on .

What sort of publicity would the club get if T and G went to the press .

I can honestly say that I was never convinced about McInally ( don't care how nice a guy he was ) it was simply how he done his job which was never good enough end of . The chairman dithered while we were sinking so if the TTG helped persuade McInally to resign then I for one are glad these lads took their stance .

Politically correct , perhaps not but for posters who are 40+ and went to games when Cappielow was heaving then the shouting of skelflike waifs Toby and Gerry wouldn't even have been heard .

We recently had a long running and well subscribed thread about the days of the 'casuals' when Morton fans stood together in the face of any common enemy. There appears to be little unity, and little loyalty to fellow fans those days.



QUOTE(M4RKO @ Aug 16 2008, 01:19 PM) [snapback]495779[/snapback]
I hope both these guys can get over themselves. Toby, you seem to have a really developed persecution complex, have you ever been to a psychiatrist about it? Or is it just a case of poor me syndrome?

Having said that, and to pre-empt what i expect you to reply with, i've never met you so you could be like a disney character in real life, but from knowing the 2 of you to see, you've got to be among the most torn faced fans in scottish football.

Toby certainly has some unusual personal attributes. Having the baws to stand up to a management which was persecuting us is certainly not pathognomonic of a 'complex'!

QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Aug 16 2008, 03:24 PM) [snapback]495838[/snapback]
In agreement with the first part. Two lads get barred from entry to a ground and we get 7 pages of it. World's gone mad.

Indeed, Germany and Britain had a mild tete a tete in the thirties and forties, and folk still can't stop talking about it.

I see empathy is not one of your strengths! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 07:02:08
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 16 2008, 09:57 AM) [snapback]495671[/snapback]
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Well, he was deluded enough to take the job in the first place, so these comments aren't all that surprising.

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QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 16 2008, 04:35 PM) [snapback]495857[/snapback]
Interesting to see Dumfermline beating St Johnstone at Perth. I didn't think the Pars would be anywhere this season.

East End Park McArthur.

Shire are ground sharing with Stenny.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 07:10:17
QUOTE(piehutt @ Aug 16 2008, 07:22 PM) [snapback]495932[/snapback]
Aye very good mate. Back to the land of reality for you methinks.

He made a valid point Piehole.

QUOTE(simplyton @ Aug 16 2008, 07:54 PM) [snapback]495958[/snapback]
3 strikers playing and one on the bench - How many more are you wanting in the squad?

With a decent supply i dont think the strikers would be an issue but they are feeding off scraps flung in from 60 yards away.

No width, no full backs, no creativity, and totally out thought and out played yesterday by a more mobile side who kept the ball on the deck and showed some imagination.

QUOTE(piehutt @ Aug 16 2008, 08:58 PM) [snapback]495991[/snapback]
Reality is that we aren't in a hurry to increase our wage bill.

Rae allows us to live beyond our means as it is. Your comments are like that of the spoilt rangers fans abusing Murray for not spending £20million every summer.

Correction Piehole-with Rae in charge we HAVE to live beyond our means. Only 2500 yesterday for a game we fully expected to win, and virtually no external income for years under JM. The feel good factor's been f*cked by him and fans are STILL drifting off.

Sometimes I think he likes it this way-it guarantees his total control, which matters FAR more to him than getting to the real money in the SPL.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 07:14:11
QUOTE(bilco @ Aug 16 2008, 10:57 PM) [snapback]496030[/snapback]
I don't think it was that bad. The guy stuck a leg out and missed the ball. Studs weren't up, he didn't even go to ground and it didn't obstruct an attacking opportunity.

Where you actually at the game??

The ref was shocking. Slow with the play, whistle happy, not playing any advantage for both teams. And his officials fkn shocking or maybe they just dont know the offside rule.

The tackle blatant no intention of going for the ball. Point taken no studs etc but never won the ball never even looked at the ball. only wanted to take the player. And wasnt booked.

You look at the bookings we have had. the second yellow which led to a red for wake "for fk all" The booking 2day for nout the bookings that other teams should have had. Cmon seriously he was ok and the others have been ok too NOT.

That was by far the best refereeing performance I've seen at Cappielow for quite a while. The SFL is plagued with fussy and over officious wee fuds. Hopefully Mr Winter can keep this up.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 07:17:59
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 17 2008, 01:34 AM) [snapback]496089[/snapback]
Is SmithsTON OK ?

I don't think he has posted for a while.

He's been posted missing for five or six days. Maybe he's on holiday!
mortonjag 2008-08-17 07:28:05

QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 16 2008, 01:48 PM) [snapback]495793[/snapback]
I think a wee bit of realism has to creep in here! The credit crunch is here! Companies are feeling the pinch and if there are not mass lay offs yet, overtime is at a premium. Food prices are going through the roof. Utility bills are going through the roof. Petrol is already through the roof.

In the last six months people's disposable incomes have taken a severe dunt and if it comes to a choice between feeding your family and paying the bills or going to a football match, its not a hard choice. Crowds are down all across the first division. Add to that that we have had three away games out of the last four plus another four to come by the end of August maybe its not so surprising that crowds are down a bit.


Correct 'numbers man'-Rae is tuned to the f*ckin moon!

The old fud got his prompt answer yesterday-crowd down AGAIN- AND utter crap from this wonderful new side.

Ham Cam got it spot on-folk pay to be entertained and/or for some measure of success.


mortonjag 2008-08-17 07:45:23 Tell me the name of one Ton player who had a decent game yesterday! Masterton was no better and no worse than most of the others. It was just one of those days-it's hard to swallow, but they happen.


What IS a disgrace is our lack of options. We CAN'T go through a long league campaign thinking that 'route 1' plus keeping control will get us very far.

Livi exposed our lack of proper mobile wing backs yesterday-after the early shakiness the central defence tightened up, but right to the final whistle wee Griffiths (green v orange boots this season) and his buddies were able to find loads of space, by drifting wide and using quick interlinking passing, keeping the ball on the deck.

Our midfield is big strong and totally unproductive-WTF was Jenkins brought on so late-he has to be the only hope in terms of 'driving' forward.

Finally our lack of width up front sticks out a mile. Our two 'wingers' (Russell and Newby) were off the boil yesterday, and that highlighted our deficiencies. Yet again Jimbo looked lost, and when Kev came on it actually DID help-simply because we started using the space up the right. I'm concerned that perhaps David Irons thinks his current system is enough.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 07:58:30
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 16 2008, 06:14 PM) [snapback]495892[/snapback]
If Irons sticks by his policy of dropping players who make basic blunders for the next game, I would think that McManus will be on the bench and Greacen back. Shimmin was fine today but left a bit exposed at times as McGuffie was having an off day. Harding was OK defensively but his continual pumping the high ball was meat and drink to the Livi back line.

We won't play three up against Dundee and so I would expect either 4-1-4-1 like Rangers or 3-5-2. Either way, the 3-4-3 did'nt work today and I was a bit disappointed Irons did'nt change it sooner. We got much more joy when we reverted to 3-5-2.




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Red and yellow and
Pink and Green
Purple and orange and blue

I can sing a rainbow
Sing a rainbow
Sing a rainbow too

Listen with your eyes
Listen with your ears
And sing everything you see

I can sing a rainbow
Sing a rainbow
Sing along with me



It never fails to amaze me how much crap is talked about 'formations'. If they are the answer-fine.

Lets sign twenty five third division players and always play 1-2-7 smile.gif !



mortonjag 2008-08-17 08:29:42
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 16 2008, 05:36 PM) [snapback]495866[/snapback]
I'm just back and pretty disappointed. Livi were well worth their win even if they were hanging on a bit for the last 15 minutes or so. Their first goal was a cracker a rising shot from outside the box similar to Masterton's on Wednesday. Cuthbert was a bit unlucky as he got a hand to it but could only deflect it into the the net. Their second was a school boy error by McManus. With no one near him just in front of the keeper's left hand post, he headed the ball to the edge of the box where their man, unmarked, picked it up and rifled it home. Cuthbert had no chance really with either goal.

For those who criticised Greacen and Harding, I never saw either of them make as many mistakes in one game as McManus did in the first half.

Wakes goal was an individual effort and I thought the goal of the game. He got onto a lob into the box, turned his man, then beat another to fire a shot across the keeper to the back post.

I thought Livi worked harder than us. They closed us down quicker and generally caused us problems all afternoon. One of our strengths has been that we work hard - just as we did last week to get back into the game - but we did'nt seem to do that today apart from the last 15-20 minutes. I would give pass marks today to Cuthbert, Shimmin, Harding, Wake and Russell. The midfield were'nt at the races and Newby was very quiet.

When Finlayson came on for Newby we stepped it up and seemed to trouble them in a sustained way for the first time in the match. Jenkins came on for McGuffie and tried hard but did'nt have enough time to change the match. Spoonsy replaced Masterton for the last 5 minutes. In the last quarter hour we had two or three decent chances but they were all blocked or knocked away.

Livi looked the best team we have played so far and I can't grudge them their win.

I entirely agree and did you notice their fans were 'up for it' unlike the cowshed'? Seems a change of Chairman works wonders.

QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Aug 16 2008, 05:38 PM) [snapback]495871[/snapback]
Typical Livi - and btw, McManus is truly dreadful. I wasn't overly pleased at signing someone that old to be the heart of our defence.

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QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Aug 16 2008, 06:29 PM) [snapback]495909[/snapback]
Kevin Cuthbert is absolutely fcking pish, btw!!!

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QUOTE(Tontaster @ Aug 16 2008, 08:20 PM) [snapback]495976[/snapback]
I almost launched my pie at the ref for not booking that player.

I thought you were male!

QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Aug 16 2008, 09:07 PM) [snapback]495994[/snapback]
I'll probably get shot down in flames for this, but here goes.

Irons has now cost us 5 of the opening 9 points (the other 2 going to Mr Boyle who refereed the Clyde game).

Last week he faffed about whilst we had a player off injured and this lost us the 2nd goal.
Today he put out a 4-3-3 which was frankly, utter crap, and took an age to change it.

I can't recall a single move taking place on the right wing in the first half. Things only happened on the left because with McAlister "old habits die hard" and he kept going to the wing. Our 3 man midfield was largely ineffective and supply to the front 3 was even less. Wake scored a goal inspite of (not because of) our formation.
After an hour of insufferable football, he finally realises and goes to 3-5-2, and lo and behold, we look like a team again. Pity we were chasing the game.

I don't forsee any points next week, and if Airdrie don't break their duck next week then we could be the onesa to hand them it on plate, depending on what formation gets pulled out of the hat.

In the words of Roger Daltrey - "Meet the new boss - same as the old boss" dry.gif

Harsh! DI has proved to have many qualities JM lacked. In terms of tactics and player signings though, he has left us utterly predictable. We'll do OK against big strong sides who try similar tactics to ours, but we neither use the wings nor can defend against wing play. Furthermore our midfield currently resembles 'stirring porridge'.

We STILL need at least one winger, one proper playmaker, and two decent wing backs. If we get those I think DI will do better! smile.gif


QUOTE(Mags @ Aug 16 2008, 11:28 PM) [snapback]496041[/snapback]
Don't think his mind is elsewhere,I feel that when we go with a back three,McAllister gets dragged back into the left back position

I agree Mags, but Jimbo has been a disaster going forward this season when he HAS had the chance.

He's NOT a left winger (he got one great wee cross over yesterday with the left foot-well done-but that's a complete rarity), and he's going nowhere in the current system. Best for the boy to get a move before it's too late.

QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 17 2008, 05:59 AM) [snapback]496131[/snapback]
Mcmanus is shocking and apart from being loud offers absolutely nothing, He's incredibly slow.

That's the kind of quote that comes back to haunt you! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 08:47:37
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 17 2008, 08:00 AM) [snapback]496142[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

Is the term "old fud" the familiar form of old fudgy wudgy ?

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If folk want to be entertained, they should buy some Smiths Milk Chews.

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"The one thing that makes the Cappielow market fairly solid is that people cut down on big items like a new suite or a new car.

"So if they cut down on these things, then they have got more money available to buy sweets.

"Instead of going out to Ibrox or Parkhead as often, they might stay in Greenock, watch the Ton and buy some sweets - more power to their elbow."

It stands for old Fuddy Duddy Newt.

Here's the definition for you!


–noun Also, fuddy.
1. a person who is stuffy, old-fashioned, and conservative.



....and to think this Jag has taken so much abuse for that accurate description! laugh.gif

I do like the bit about Ibrox and Parkhead-last night I drove straight home (I normally have to detour to drop off my brother), and as I left the M8 at Govan to head South, the traffic just STOPPED DEAD for the catharsis of catholophobic cretins from Ibrox.

As I sat at the traffic light for a seeming eternity, I counted no less than six buses from Inverclyde. I have to confess that for a fleeting moment I could understand their desire to see some decent football. I'd NEVER give up on the Ton, but the said Fud is stretching my patience somewhat! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 09:07:44
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 16 2008, 11:19 PM) [snapback]496037[/snapback]
I suspect the fears of some that this new forum would just be a 'carte blanche' for homophobic rhetoric seem to have been realised.

A good day for the many 'pouve' haters on here no doubt, but a new low for 'mortonunofficial.org', I'd suggest.

I doubt very much this is what either TiD or Boozie hoped for when the Jesse Ventura Tobacco Chewing Forum was launched.

Here's a sincere and serious question for you then. Are you gay?

You're coming over as a sanctimonious wee arse in my opinion.

I don't believe you are gay, but you sure like bashing anything that doesn't fit your particular brand of political correctness.

Small man gets big kick out of being a total w**k. ph34r.gif

I think Sean misjudged his original post and I was first to say so. Sean has confessed to being a bit homophobic-so be it-that doesn't exactly make him a pouffe basher.

Just to put the record straight rolleyes.gif I'm not gay, and I'm certainly not homophobic. I have close friends and a sibling who are gay. Could I shag a man-well in extremis-who knows.

Right!

Oh-and I DO think men who wear make up and tote handbags should get their little pink botties tanned-effin Nancy boys offend me in the same way as dykes who dress up like men.

I have no problem whatsoever with men loving other men, or women loving other women. Indeed I have absolutely no problem with a man shagging a donkey if they are both consenting adults in private. I don't, however, expect to see him trotting down the street like something out of 'Midsummer Night's dream'!

mortonjag 2008-08-17 09:32:32
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 16 2008, 10:36 AM) [snapback]495683[/snapback]
Sad and angry people are more likely to be deceitful IMO

What an uninformed and sweeping generalisation-you'll need to get about more! dry.gif




People say I'm the life of the party
'Cause I tell a joke or two
Although I might be laughing loud and hearty
Deep inside I'm blue

So take a good look at my face
You'll see my smile looks out of place
Just look closer, it's easy to trace
The tracks of my tears
I need you, need you
Since you left me if you see me with another girl
Seeming like I'm having fun
Although she may be cute she's just a substitute
'Cause you're the permanent one

(Outside) I'm masquerading
(Inside) my hope is fading
(Just a clown) ooh yeah since you put me down
My smile is my make-up I wear since my break-up with you



It's quite common you know-don't judge a book by its cover.

mortonjag 2008-08-17 09:38:44
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 17 2008, 09:33 AM) [snapback]496155[/snapback]
Annoying as it is, it's probably happening at every ground across the country.

Still, I wish they'd stop doing it.

What would you prefer. Shall I appear at the next home match in white coat and stethoscope and shout 'Shall I refer you to an ophthalmologist'? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 09:44:56
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 17 2008, 09:29 AM) [snapback]496152[/snapback]
Pot. Kettle. Black.
Oh, wait...we've been there before tongue.gif wink.gif blush.gif
Serious question though...

Why are you so offended by that. Are they harming you in any way? Live and let live...

Listen son I'm getting too old and tired for all the PC pish. I reckon I'm pretty tolerant of almost anything-that doesn't mean I'm not allowed my own pecadillos.

I can say categorically FROM EXPERIENCE that those who are most successful at being 'politically correct' are a shower of artificial up ain erse hysterics.

Of course I'm joking about the botty tanning, but Nancy Boys annoy me-I'm not ashamed of it, and I wish them no harm.

I take it you have no prejudices! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 09:46:47
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 17 2008, 09:39 AM) [snapback]496157[/snapback]
Well, at least it would be 'original' wink.gif smile.gif

It would be a first and last-I've no doubt the Cappielow Mafia would deal with me .
mortonjag 2008-08-17 09:48:44
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Aug 17 2008, 09:47 AM) [snapback]496161[/snapback]
"Muscular" ? ohmy.gif

Flabular? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 09:53:35
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Aug 17 2008, 09:43 AM) [snapback]496158[/snapback]
Well, did you get one? ph34r.gif

mortonjag 2008-08-17 09:57:00 Happy birthday guys!

Gash-we don't see much of you those days. Did you ever get that penis pump working? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 10:05:54
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 17 2008, 09:55 AM) [snapback]496170[/snapback]
So here's a question! When we brought on Finlayson and switched to 3-5-2 we started to play and genuinely compete for the first time in the match. Was the improvement down to Superkev all on his own or the tactical switch?

I don't know. I honestly couldn't see DI with any hand controls-is it anything like the PS3-or does Mr Rae have a remote control set.

I leave my radio on 810 M.W. all the time. laugh.gif

I would always play a goalie, two full backs, three half backs, and five forwards.

The mortonjag 2 3 5 formation seemed to do just fine for over a century until folk started taking themselves far too seriously and getting bloody football scholarships, and Sports Degrees from scabby institutions.


Adamson, Stevenson, Caven, McGraw, and Wilson would still frighten the life out of most SPL clubs on a good day-AND they could change their formation till the cows came home and would still fail to stop them.

Time for medication now! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 10:19:08
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 17 2008, 10:13 AM) [snapback]496177[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Cheers MJ, that's brightened up a dreich and wet Sunday morning no end at all! laugh.gif

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Oh and I have NO problem with genuine transvestites!

I met her in a club down in old Soho
where you drink champagne and it tastes just like Cherry Cola
C-O-L-A Cola.
She walked up to me and she asked me to dance.
I asked her her name and in a dark brown voice she said, "Lola"
L-O-L-A Lola, lo lo lo Lola
Well, I'm not the world's most physical guy,
but when she squeesed me tight she nearly broke my spine
Oh my Lola, lo lo lo Lola, lo lo lo Lola
Well, I'm not dumb but I can't understand
why she walks like a woman and talks like a man
Oh my Lola, lo lo lo Lola, lo lo lo Lola
Well, we drank champagne and danced all night,
under electric candlelight,
she picked me up and sat me on her knee,
She said, "Little boy won't you come home with me?"
Well, I'm not the world's most passionate guy,
but when I looked in her eyes,
I almost fell for my Lola,
Lo lo lo Lola, lo lo lo Lola
I pushed her away. I walked to the door.
I fell to the floor. I got down on my knees.
I looked at her, and she at me.
Well that's the way that I want it to stay.
I always want it to be that way for my Lola.
Lo lo lo Lola.
Girls will be boys, and boys will be girls.
It's a mixed up, muddled up, shook up world,
except for Lola. Lo lo lo Lola. Lo lo lo Lola.
Well I left home just a week ago,
and I never ever kissed a woman before,
Lola smiled and took me by the hand,
she said, "Little boy, gonna make you a man."
Well I'm not the world's most masculine man,
but I know what I am and that I'm a man,
so is Lola.
Lo lo lo Lola. Lo lo lo Lola.

Ray Davies- a heterosexual well ahead of his time! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 10:23:48
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Aug 17 2008, 09:55 AM) [snapback]496169[/snapback]
I prefer something a bit more rugged. wub.gif


Arnie Schwarzwilly
mortonjag 2008-08-17 10:28:35 Puggs-did they teach you any poems in that jumped up college?

Here are two lines from Browning:


You threaten us, fellow? Do your worst,
Blow your pipe there till you burst!''

A wondrous poem-well worth the read! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 10:32:19
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 17 2008, 10:22 AM) [snapback]496181[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-08-17 10:52:03
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 17 2008, 10:23 AM) [snapback]496183[/snapback]
None of your business.
Are we to congratulate him for being honest?

Fact is that Sean is entitled to hold any prejudices he wants, that's entirely his business. But when he lets these prejudices affect his professional judgement and he allows it to spill over into open discrimination, and then he boasts about it on a public forum, then people are equally entitled to criticise him for it.

Of course we are-PC wallahs are usually dishonest creeps.

In agree, but he admitted and rectified his error of judgement.


A good day for the many 'pouve' haters on here no doubt, but a new low for 'mortonunofficial.org', I'd suggest.

....and that is self gratifying sanctimonious bollocks-scabby wee footie forum sinks to new low because self opinionated knobend says so-NOPE for me.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 10:56:55
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 17 2008, 10:48 AM) [snapback]496200[/snapback]
I don't know why they don't just allow all performance enhancing drugs so then at least then it would be a level playing field for all.

This thread reminds me of Tam Cowan's joke on 'Off The Ball' yesterday.....

Fatima Whitbread went to the GB team doctor and complained that the drugs he'd been giving her had caused hair to start growing on her chest.

'How much hair do you actually have on your chest?' he asked her.

To which she replied, 'It's all the way down to my balls'.

...and what did the doctor say?
mortonjag 2008-08-17 11:01:33
QUOTE(capitanus @ Aug 17 2008, 10:53 AM) [snapback]496202[/snapback]
It would be a Hampton & McMurray settee for auld Sweetie Bollocks.

Who knows-he may be 'a' class an' nae knickers'.


I've heard he gets his furniture from the Argos catalogue-has the Argos van deliver it to the sweatshop factory, and then the Millions lorry drops it off at his Big Hoose in the wee sma' hours.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 11:03:22
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 17 2008, 10:58 AM) [snapback]496204[/snapback]
I clapped Masterton off the way, I do every substitution, but I wasn't aware of jeering etc.

The stand side sophisticates clapped him off-there was no problem so far as I heard.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 11:05:19
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Aug 17 2008, 11:02 AM) [snapback]496208[/snapback]
I was driving along in my truck one day when a fetching young maiden drew up alongside.I couldn't help myself and I gave her a quickie at which point she told her boyfriend sitting beside her.He was less than pleased! I am more careful about the lassies I wink at these days! rolleyes.gif

Indeed, and FFS don't w*nk in front of children! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 11:08:11
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 17 2008, 11:03 AM) [snapback]496210[/snapback]
Fatima, awmagawd.
Though from around the same time I have memories of the lovely Tessa Sanderson.

Back to topic.
Athletes do get away with taking drugs.

Flo Jo must be a classic example.

The observer had a hauf decent article on her. Clicky.

It goes with the insatiable need to win found in all true champions.

I think DI should start feeding our boys some performance enhancing treatment.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 11:16:16
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 17 2008, 11:07 AM) [snapback]496215[/snapback]
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Got to love your keen sense of irony MJ. laugh.gif

Pot calling the kettle black doesn't even come close. smile.gif

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Ha-I don't deny it, and my opinions normally prove to be spot on!

Furthermore, unlike our little wrestler, I DO present them as opinion and not fact-something he will undoubtedly contest, as he's argumentative to the point of dementia-TOTALLY unlike my goodself. laugh.gif

Back to the thread-indeed CHC-you'd have us all believe that the forum is full of rampant pouffe bashers-that's not what you really believe-and that proves my point about you. You're a trouble stirring monstrosity.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 12:17:38
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Aug 17 2008, 11:45 AM) [snapback]496234[/snapback]
At least you've cheered me up with that. Look at this with a wholly dispassionate view. I know nobody involved in this, so have no axe to grind on this subject. Two lads renowned in the past for their forthright views on the ES management team get barred from entry to the ES home match. Blame is put on GMFC who deny any involvement in the affair. Nobody has seen the GMFC official tip the wink to the ES official so we are basing the 7 pages on second hand, at best, conjecture.

I'm afraid that there are other things ahead of that in the queue that's keeping me awake at night.

OK-you've spun it your way! Here's my unashamed 'spin'!

Toby-a long term die-hard supporter who has hardly missed a match in years, makes his way across two counties on a miserable Wednesday evening to watch his beloved Ton. He quietly has a couple of beers before making his way to the turnstyles, where to his complete astonishment, he's refused entry-WITHOUT REASON GIVEN.

On questioning, he's told in clear terms that the instruction has come 'from Morton-who intend to ban him from Cappielow, and from all Scottish grounds if possible'. He has done absolutely NOTHING wrong since he was freely admitted to Cappielow for the previous game.

HOW WOULD YOU FEEL?

A police officer appears to confirm that the information given is accurate.

Toby subsequently receives a personal message which gives him reason to believe that a certain Morton Official may have been behind the 'ban'-a Morton official with whom he has 'crossed swords' very recently on this very forum.

Unfortunately, IMHO, Toby goes in good faith to Morton for an explanation first. In retrospect he may regret not having approached 'Shire'.

'The Club' assures him that they have not, and do not intend to ban him-indeed that they 'value' his support, while promising to investigate with 'Shire'.

I'm rather hazy about subsequent events-why is that-there is a clear explanation somewhere-not some spurious story about some spurious incident with Toby possibly ending up the victim of mistaken identity.

So you see, it APPEARS to me that Toby has been singled out for victimisation for PERSONAL reasons, and the rest has-in typical Morton fashion, been rapidly swept under the carpet.

If JM/MC had wanted to be vindictive-why go to such crazy lengths instead of just telling the Stewards to ban him. It does not add up for me, and as I've already said, JM's not the vindictive type.

So-you can sit in your ivory tower and pontificate till you're blue in the face, but I feel for those guys, and I hope the truth is exposed.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 12:20:59
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 17 2008, 12:12 PM) [snapback]496245[/snapback]
Agreed.

Yesterday in effect the crowd was up.

St J game the crowd was 2649 of which St J brought through about 400.

Yesterday 2502 of which Livi had say 50.

The 50 made a helluva noise!
mortonjag 2008-08-17 12:23:28
QUOTE(capitanus @ Aug 17 2008, 11:11 AM) [snapback]496219[/snapback]
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Maybe he was trying to come out the closet that day, doesn't mean Mags is right.

Adam Coakley scored the winner for Queens Park yesterday! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 12:31:06
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Aug 17 2008, 11:35 AM) [snapback]496229[/snapback]
Some of them probably would , they just wouldn't admit it. rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 17 2008, 12:02 PM) [snapback]496241[/snapback]
rolleyes.gif

Says it all really. End of discussion.

All he said was that he doesn't like the idea of ramming his knob up another bloke's arse-clearly you see things differently.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 13:06:41 I don't fully understand the problem. Clearly if there were enough turnstyles so that each could only be operated for a fixed priced for that gate, the numbers and the money should tally.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 13:47:13 It's a secret trial being run by the SFA who plan to introduce an order whereby all fans will have to wear an official jacket marked 'Spectator'. Observer is the code name.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 13:51:31
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 17 2008, 01:40 PM) [snapback]496275[/snapback]
Chocolate drops anyone blink.gif

I'll have a fistful!
mortonjag 2008-08-17 13:52:51
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 17 2008, 01:42 PM) [snapback]496276[/snapback]
Personal attacks on MJ's family don't normally go down too well biggrin.gif

Indeed-Fing is already targeting a certain tartan windbag!
mortonjag 2008-08-17 14:02:45
QUOTE(midTONs @ Aug 17 2008, 01:55 PM) [snapback]496288[/snapback]
Maybe the club have employed them to look out for and observe Toby and Gerry.

I'm sure they won't be recognised in the new frog outfits.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 14:05:18
QUOTE(Jack Bauer @ Aug 17 2008, 02:03 PM) [snapback]496291[/snapback]
At the meeting in the Port Town Hall last March Crawfurd Rae said that they had been made aware of a problem with the turnstyles and some of the gate operators.

He stated that the guilty gate ppl were sacked and that all turnstyles are now up to standard regarding number counting etc.

however i can only agree that the attendance figures appear to show some disparity,

Last week there was at least 500 more than this week yet "official2 stats show about 80 more ppl were there.

Noticably St johnstone had about 450 fans with them last week whereas livvy with all due respect had around 75.

Maybe its the standside operators or turnstyles that they need to look at. An easy solution is to ask ppl to buy a ticket from a "cabin" before they go into the ground. altho they would probably boak at paying someone £5.85 an hour and no doubt the cost of tickets printing would be labelled "disproportionate".

I also feel there were a few games last season were the attendances just didnt add up.

A good indicator is the 50/50 price fund! dry.gif

JB.

I've noticed that too.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 14:11:26
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Aug 17 2008, 01:54 PM) [snapback]496286[/snapback]
I, too, love animals, ad I always try to place spiders and stuff that I find in the house outside, instead of killing them. However, wasps are a different story.

I always seem to get stung at least once a year (to include in September 2002, when I was at a Morton game....I was in the main stand, and it went down the back of my shirt and then got me. I swore like a sailor, I tell you!).

I have successfully killed every wasp I've been able to get near since I was stung as a teenager.

Yesterday a bloody wasp was buzzing around in the main stand-I tried several times to get the b*stard till it eventually landed. 'Gotcha' I said as I firmly but gently squashed him and flicked him to the ground.

The lady in front turned round with a look of astonisment and slight anger, but we both ended up laughing when I explained that it had landed on the back of her head and she would probably been stung! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 14:20:21
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 17 2008, 02:10 PM) [snapback]496297[/snapback]
There's a young admin girl in my work and she teases the f*** out of me.

She has a nice pair of marmaries and she wears some low cut tops.

She does have a recently new boyfriend and a few weeks ago I jokingly mentioned about her cheating on him with one of his friends which she replied to with I'd never cheat on him.

Since I put my notice in 3weeks ago she has been giving me some come on signs and has asked me to go for an afterwork drink a couple of times in the last couple of weeks, which I've used excuses not to.

She is however now shoving her marmaries in my face at every opportunity the most recent one being when she came over to my desk and knelt beside me. Well I couldn't help but peak down her cleavage.

Women are extremely aware of how their cleavage can tease a guy but more to the point should I take her up on her offer if made again.

The reason I haven't is because she's only 21 but maybe if it was a one nighter, what do you all think ??

She is old enough to know her own mind, but from what you've said, probably doesn't. What does she see in you-money-good looks-personality-or does she just wonder what it's like to be shagged by an older man.


You've nothing to lose except your virginity Willy Man-get right in there! smartass.gif drink.gif thumbup2.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 14:23:02
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 17 2008, 02:20 PM) [snapback]496301[/snapback]
Gerry was extremely quiet during yesterday's game.

I understand Morton have insisted that they didn't ban them from Ochilview and Gerry is now awaiting an official response from East Stirling.

How long does it take to check with the very small number of folk involved? blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 14:43:07
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Aug 17 2008, 02:35 PM) [snapback]496312[/snapback]
I don't think he's had the chance. He's stuck in behind Newby and it's suffocating him.The Livingston number 7 (Joe Hamill?) - showed that although Jim works hard the defensive side of his game isn't up to scratch. McAlister has to be played as part of the front three - if we persist with a 4-3-3 - or put on the bench.

He just hasn't got a finish. He's scored two or three cracking goals but they've always seemed to be 'hit and hope', and he can't cross from the left.

What's the answer. Very recently I suggested we should let him go for-say £40,000, and try to get a natural left winger, but folk seem to think he's worth FAR more.

mortonjag 2008-08-17 14:44:28
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 17 2008, 02:25 PM) [snapback]496305[/snapback]
Indeed, but as it was lettered to East Stirling, in order to make it an official complaint, then there you have your answer.

Should be interesting.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 14:48:11
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Aug 17 2008, 02:21 PM) [snapback]496303[/snapback]
I thought the sarcastic cheer and applause was a disgrace.

Masterton was poor yesterday but some people have very short memories. So far this season Masterton has provided an excellent assist for Iain Russell at Stair Park, set up Paartalu's equaliser against St. Johnstone with a textbook cross drilled low and hard across the six yard box and scored an absolute belter against East Stirling on Wednesday.

Yesterday apart Masterton has impressed me so far but Allan Jenkins looked a level above everyone else when he come on and I can see him taking Masterton's place as soon as he gets fit.

I'd like to see competition for midfield places, and I'd also like to see evidence that DI will change things around depending on whom we're up against. Big Pantaloons is an asset in many situations, but yesterday looked lost. Masterton was far from the worst player on the park yesterday, and for what it's worth he did get genuine applause from the stand as he came off-which he briefly acknowledged.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 14:51:35
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 17 2008, 02:26 PM) [snapback]496306[/snapback]
One presumes the bit in bold blush.gif

Then she has everything to gain! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 15:03:46
QUOTE(stuart @ Aug 17 2008, 02:42 PM) [snapback]496315[/snapback]
This is quite an interesting look at modern day prejudices in Scotland. It appears to me that discrimination against homosexuals is the last prejudice that is going to be tackled by society.

Do people think that discriminating against people because of their sexuality is any different to discriminating against people because of their race?

Is it ok to ridicule somebody's sexuality whereas not ok to ridicule someone's race?

There are a lot of very sad opinions on this thread and on the should men wear make up thread.

What if I suggest that that comment reflects a totally unrealistic view of humanity!

Others' opinions are 'sad' and yours is presumably 'happy'. We ridicule every bloody thing on this forum Stuart as I'm sure you know, and if you don't like that, my sad opinion is that you shouldn't be here.

What makes you think that folks racial prejudices have been tackled-do you live in some bloody cellar and only come out in the dark. Simply because folk have learned to behave in a more civilised manner-OR are afraid of the consequences of not doing so, doesn't do away with basic prejudices.

It seems to me that you are either an angry homosexual-if so lighten up, unsure.gif or a PC arsehole! Hopefully you're not both! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 15:09:17
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Aug 17 2008, 02:49 PM) [snapback]496320[/snapback]
I agree his finishing is poor but Iain Russell hasn't got a finish either and that's who I'd play him instead of. That would mean he would he could play on the right where we would probably see an improvement in his crossing.

Iain Russell's finishing is erratic, but he can still knock in the goals whereas Jimbo can't. Furthermore we still have superkev wanting a wee shot on the right. IMHO they are both JM relics from a different style of football which worked in a lower league, and we'd be better shot of them both, to be replaced by proper wingers/wing backs.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 15:10:36 [quote name='WillowMan' date='Aug 17 2008, 02:49 PM' post='496321']
Was this by sticking his two fingers up you laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-08-17 15:20:55
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 17 2008, 03:09 PM) [snapback]496331[/snapback]
If it were a bit of harmless banter and name-calling then I'd see your point. However in this case it transcended into open and actual discrimination, and I'm a bit surprised a man of your infinite intelligence can't tell the difference.

I'm just as entitled to MY opinion about what is or is not discriminative as you are Fifi.

QUOTE(stuart @ Aug 17 2008, 03:10 PM) [snapback]496333[/snapback]
I am neither of what you mentioned above. It genuinely saddens me that in modern day Scotland people are being discriminated against on the basis of their sexuality.

Racial prejudice is now seen as being really anti-social and it totally frowned upon by most decent people and what I would call "decent society". It certainly still exists in small pockets but when people express their racial prejudices they are criticised. It seems when people express their anti-gay prejudices they are congratulated for it and their comments are accepted.

It seems to me that the VERY WORST that has been done is that some have demonstrated the fact that they find the concept of homosexuality unnatural if not revolting.

I once asked a gay friend if he had ever shagged a woman just to try it out-and let me assure you he was f*cking DISGUSTED by the idea, but could totally understand my pissing myself with laughter at his response.

If you're not a pouffe, and not a stark raving bonkers PC purist, how do you define yourself?

Please don't tell me your Jesus back for a wee visit! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 15:31:30
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Aug 17 2008, 03:23 PM) [snapback]496344[/snapback]
That may be his normal approach but on this occasion he ventured into the sales to purchase his new couch. I wonder if that included a pouffe. rolleyes.gif

I doubt if he's ever have a pouffe on his staff though.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 15:35:08
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 17 2008, 03:30 PM) [snapback]496346[/snapback]
That's not the issue here MJ, and well you know it. rolleyes.gif

Sean is perfectly entitled to his own personal views on gays and the physical act of gay sex. That's entirely his business.

The point is however these personal feelings make him openly discriminate against a gay colleague. How can you seriously defend that?

I'm not privy to the full details. If I sincerely believed that any minority group employee was attempting to gain an advantage on the basis of his 'abnormality', as his line manager, I think I'd explain the unfairness to him-AND ask him not to discriminate in future.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 15:38:11
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Aug 17 2008, 03:32 PM) [snapback]496349[/snapback]
They were Police Officers doing their Match Commanders course at Tulliallan!

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Sounds just about right. I'm always amused when we go to some God forsaken hole of a stadium to note the presence of at least one Uniformed Inspector picking up his highly paid overtime for doing SFA!
mortonjag 2008-08-17 15:39:19
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 17 2008, 03:35 PM) [snapback]496352[/snapback]
However the odd sycophant rolleyes.gif

...but not as in queer?
mortonjag 2008-08-17 15:42:22
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 17 2008, 03:38 PM) [snapback]496357[/snapback]
..... as you well know the discrimination I was talking about Sean's proud boast that he refused to approve the guy's holiday solely because he's gay. rolleyes.gif

The PERCEIVED discrimination Fifi! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 15:49:44
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 17 2008, 03:43 PM) [snapback]496369[/snapback]
Well... "Dirty b*****d I thought, your getting no fecking holiday. Needless to say I declined his holiday request, just for putting those thoughts in my mind" did come over as a bit of a boast, aye. smile.gif

Sean was clearly trying to protect him from something which he regards as unhealthy and unwholesome-I feel he should be complimented on his perceptiveness of health and safety issues.

Instead he's being pilloried by a shower of pouffephiles, who the minute they are challenged hold up their hands in horror at the suggestion that THEY are practising pouffes.

All I can say to you Fifi is thank God you didn't have to do my job-you'd never have got the first patient out the door for consulting your f*cking PC tomes! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 15:52:58
QUOTE(Toby @ Aug 17 2008, 03:47 PM) [snapback]496374[/snapback]
Perhaps I have developed a persecusssion complex, that's my perogative. However, I've been screwed over by someone and there's a bigger picture to this;

There is evidence leaning towards "an official of Morton Football Club" abusing their power in order that I don't get into the game. It's extrememly easy to understand why I don't deserve much sympathy, I've got a bit of a past at away games and don't have the best of relationship's with the management team at East Stirling. However, the important factor relating to this is the abuse of power. Someone can theoretically turn up at a Morton away game now, with absolutely no previous for causing any grief at games and be turned away simply because a member of staff at Morton doesn't like them. That is not on, yet Morton, claim that if they investigate who did this would be met by a wall of silence so are prepared to sweep the whole matter under the carpet. The chairman apparently said in the Tele yesterday that he is surprised at the small crowds yet his employees are telling folk to stop Morton fans getting into games. My view on that is that they know I'll still go and watch Morton regardless so couldn't care less if I'm unhappy with them as they're still getting my money. Or perhaps they'd be willing to sacrafice having two less customers for a quieter life? Either way, I'm sure a successful businessman like DDFR is well aware that it is a common mistake to overlook existing customers as you strive for new ones. Complacency in how you treat your regular customers can result to them disappearing before you notice. In saying that, does he? He's got a bit of previous too for upsetting the regulars.

Anyway, the torn faced thing? You didn't happen to be in Prague with Mortonbug? FFS, my features are that I'm naturally torn faced, even when i'm in a good mood. No apologies there, as there wasn't to him.
Clearly you didn't attend the Q & A in March?

Toby, I'm just about to p.m. you.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 16:06:11
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 17 2008, 03:57 PM) [snapback]496384[/snapback]
Why would he do that, do you think gays get some sort of preferential treatment? rolleyes.gif

I assume in Sean's workplace they have guidelines regarding the granting of holidays, covering things like period of notice, back-up cover, etc. If this request did not meet one of the criteria set out in the guidelines Sean could quite properly have rejected it, and the guy would have had absolutely no come-back irrespective of his sexuality.

Well let me tell you this Fifi-I know of one very large Scottish Employer where minority groups DO get an unfair advantage, and they sure milk it, and I'm talking about Moslems and time off for prayer.

Don't bother to argue with me. MY partner works in the place, and EVERYBODY resents it-Chinese, Indians, Spaniards etc.

The said Moslems KNOW exactly their 'Rights' and sure demand them. My partner's friend's a Catholic-she takes things seriously-could she get half an hour off work on Ash Wednesday-NOPE!

Don't come over all innocent about minority groups not milking the system-it happens everywhere! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 16:58:29
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Aug 17 2008, 04:54 PM) [snapback]496410[/snapback]
You know that my views on the chairman are similar to yours, although not as vehemently held. But no one has been able to prove beyond conjecture, that Toby's nemesis, or the one that he hopes it is - he seems to have a few, is behind this. On the facts presented so far m'lud, case not proven. However, if he wants to accuse an ex-employee of hiding behind the not so small frame of a GMFC official I think he might be closer to the point. Again, straight forward conjecture and just my opinion and based on the "facts" that people have presented on here.

Time will hopefully tell! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 17:03:30
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 17 2008, 04:47 PM) [snapback]496406[/snapback]
I love the way you lump all religous, ethnic and sexual orientation minorities into one huge homogeneous group. rolleyes.gif

Are you saying that if Sean had rejected this guy's request for proper professional reasons this guy could still have been given them by simply claiming he's gay? laugh.gif

I don't know how things work in Sean's place, but I'm fairly sure if his request was reject on the basis of the rules applied equally to all other employees then guy wouldn't have had a leg to stand on.

As you are well aware I made a valid point in illustration Fifi.

You DON'T know lots of things-as I said earlier you are a deliberate trouble making monstrosity.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 17:20:45
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Aug 17 2008, 04:51 PM) [snapback]496407[/snapback]
If we were to go with a front 3 I'd go with McAlister-Wake/Newby-Russell. Give McAlister and Russell the freedom to find space and switch wings. I agree that Russell's finishing is poor, but otherwise he has looked quite sharp this season, and looks like a player who can find the by-line.
There's no reason why Jim McAlister can't learn to score more given the right role in the team. And I don't think you're giving him enough credit for his creativity. He created more goals than any other Morton player last season. Give him the right role in the team and he'd do the same this season.

But first we'd need full backs, so it looks like Jim will continued to be wasted at wing back.

I'm not disagreeing with that in principle-just can't see where he now fits in.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 17:22:41
QUOTE(forza ton @ Aug 17 2008, 05:03 PM) [snapback]496419[/snapback]
why is every c*** throwing toys oot the pram??? what a s***ey wee storm in a teacup.

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s***ey wee storm in a teacup until it happens to you? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 17:25:34
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 17 2008, 05:22 PM) [snapback]496425[/snapback]
shutup.gif

rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 17 2008, 05:23 PM) [snapback]496426[/snapback]
.....and as I said earlier I love your sharp sense of the ironic.

I hope you're not calling me a monstrosity! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 17:28:43
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Aug 17 2008, 05:27 PM) [snapback]496428[/snapback]
There's probably a good reason it won't happen to him.

He's an insider? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 17:44:33
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Aug 17 2008, 05:39 PM) [snapback]496435[/snapback]
He keeps out of bother.

Really!

How do you define keeping out of bother?

If feelings among the fans in general became so strong that a protest was planned, would you join in or 'keep out of bother'?
mortonjag 2008-08-17 17:47:09
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Aug 17 2008, 05:29 PM) [snapback]496430[/snapback]
Or a third leg to stand on ph34r.gif

Are Pouffe's made of Wood?

Wooden pouffes are.

QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 17 2008, 05:34 PM) [snapback]496432[/snapback]
I can sense another bit of over-compensation going on here.

There are more repressed gays on this thread than in a public school dormitory. The Jesse Ventura Tobacco Chewing Forum closet must be bursting at the seams. rolleyes.gif

They don't need to be repressed with the Jessie Boys.

QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Aug 17 2008, 05:37 PM) [snapback]496434[/snapback]
Closets are made of wood are they not?

Wooden closets are.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 17:48:55
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Aug 17 2008, 05:44 PM) [snapback]496437[/snapback]
Sugar Daddy. ph34r.gif

HA-I sense a new controversy-is it wrong for a man to shag a woman thirty years his junior? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 17:51:29
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Aug 17 2008, 05:46 PM) [snapback]496439[/snapback]
Define 'protest'.



pro·test
–noun
1. an expression or declaration of objection, disapproval, or dissent, often in opposition to something a person is powerless to prevent or avoid: a protest against increased taxation.
2. Commerce.
a. a formal notarial certificate attesting the fact that a check, note, or bill of exchange has been presented for acceptance or payment and that it has been refused.
b. the action taken to fix the liability for a dishonored bill of exchange or note.
3. Law.
a. (upon one's payment of a tax or other state or city exaction) a formal statement disputing the legality of the demand.
b. a written and attested declaration made by the master of a ship stating the circumstances under which some damage has happened to the ship or cargo, or other circumstances involving the liability of the officers, crew, etc.
4. Sports. a formal objection or complaint made to an official.
–verb (used without object)
5. to give manifest expression to objection or disapproval; remonstrate.
6. to make solemn or earnest declaration.
–verb (used with object)
7. to make a protest or remonstrance against; object to.
8. to say in protest or remonstrance.
9. to declare solemnly or earnestly; affirm; assert.
10. to make a formal declaration of the nonacceptance or nonpayment of (a bill of exchange or note).
11. Obsolete. to call to witness.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 17:53:32
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Aug 17 2008, 05:49 PM) [snapback]496442[/snapback]
Willowmans 51?? ohmy.gif

Is he-I was merely using 30 years as a general age difference for controversial shagging! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 18:08:24
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Aug 17 2008, 05:52 PM) [snapback]496445[/snapback]
You're hopeless. It's a storm in a teacup right enough because too many people are being as immature as you are now.

You asked me to define 'protest'!

Who was being immature-do I have to spell it out for you? How upset/angry/disenchanted/disgusted would you have to be before you had the baws to do what Toby did?

Oh-I know-it was an effin disgrace-OR WAS IT?

If the fans in general had given JM an even slightly easier ride, we'd be back in division 2-FACT. Toby's behaviour was extreme but it demonstrated very effectively what many, if not most of us were latterly feeling about a man who was consciously or otherwise picking up a good salary on false pretences.

The immature people IMO are those who have never thrown off the child/authority figure shackles-who imagine that Club Chairmen and Managers are above reproach and deserve respect for WHO they are.

Another mark of immaturity is 'kicking a man when he's down' and there have been many examples on this pubic massage board. At the moment that is manifested by the smug whited sepulchres who agreed with what Toby believed but see fit to deplore the manner in which he exercised his democratic right to speak up. It also seems to conveniently escape attention that Toby was on no occasion apprehended by 'The Law' for his vociferous outbursts.

So back to the Holy Willie 'storm in a teacup' comment. If you think a fellow fan being excluded from a match without ANY LEGITIMATE REASON BEING PROVIDED, is 'a storm in a teacup' I certainly don't.

As I asked before, how would you or any other fan feel in the same circumstances?
mortonjag 2008-08-17 18:20:49
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Aug 17 2008, 06:15 PM) [snapback]496457[/snapback]
As above. I agree that it was wrong for Toby to be denied entry to Ochilview and that he is perfectly right to investigate why this happened.

However, he is not banned from any grounds in Scotland as he was told and the rest is none of my business.

I don't think this should turn into a main focus of the board though. While most peoples' feelings would echo his, I would not agree with Toby questioning himself as a Morton fan.

Now, apart from it being nothing to with me, I just think other people should leave it be.

I believe the matter will die down more quickly (at least until the investigation is complete) if people stop having sly kicks at Toby and Gerry. It's as simple as that. That includes the profferring of opinions about what does or does not constitute good behaviour! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 18:28:07
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Aug 17 2008, 06:21 PM) [snapback]496463[/snapback]
Fair enough. Are you suggesting I've been guilty of that?

Not deliberately perhaps, but your comment about another fan being unlikely to be banned because he 'keeps out of bother' came close after the 'storm in a teacup' statement, albeit it was factually accurate.

You certainly appeared to be deprecating Toby's behaviour.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 18:30:15
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Aug 17 2008, 05:55 PM) [snapback]496447[/snapback]
Maybe he has a conscience, she is nearer his daughters age than his? ph34r.gif

AH-you DO think it's naughty to shag a women of considerably younger years! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 18:31:14
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 17 2008, 06:09 PM) [snapback]496455[/snapback]
projectile vomit ?

Scrapings from the Cappielow microphone on unfurling day?
mortonjag 2008-08-17 18:32:40
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 17 2008, 05:30 PM) [snapback]496431[/snapback]
Seriously though, why don't they just admit defeat and allow everyone to use performance enhancing drugs?

At the end of the day the results would still achieved by the human body and at least we would know the winners were truly the best in that particular field.

You are obsessed with women having baws! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 18:36:54
QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 17 2008, 06:18 PM) [snapback]496458[/snapback]
You sound like a Rangers fan telling David Murray to get his hand in his pocket and spend more money when he's already spent about £20m this summer.

We probably do need another striker and maybe a left midfielder but that isnt going to happen until we get rid of the deadwood and I for one will not be telling Dougie to put his hand in his pocket to appease some fans thinking he hasn't done it enough already.

How often do I have to whisper in your ear darling that Mr Rae has not spent a personal penny on Morton. If you disbelieve me check with a competent accountant or Donkey Dave.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 18:38:49
QUOTE(Last Boat Home @ Aug 17 2008, 06:26 PM) [snapback]496466[/snapback]
I thought he had a smashing game and despite having one of those faces you would never tire of punching would love to have him in our team. He reminded me a bit of McGowan but more direct, taking on and beating every one of our defenders at some point during the game - not bad for a seventeen year old unsure.gif

You may recall he also took us to the cleaners last season at Cappielow-his hair and orange boots stood out a mile.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 18:47:22
QUOTE(ViolaTon @ Aug 17 2008, 06:39 PM) [snapback]496481[/snapback]
Weatherson, Greacen and Harding have all played well this season when they've been selected - I'd give any one of them the nod over McManus.

That's self contradictory IMO, and though I DO rate Spoonsy I'd NEVER have him as a central defender.

McManus's past record and experience speak for themselves. He's infinitely better equipped to organise the defence that Stu or Hardy. I realise he had a bad game yesterday, but the two other gentlemen have both been guilty of considerably worse form in the past.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 18:48:43
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Aug 15 2008, 09:38 PM) [snapback]495503[/snapback]
that really is quite funny biggrin.gif

WTF are you wittering on about? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 20:08:08
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Aug 17 2008, 07:07 PM) [snapback]496491[/snapback]
If that is a genuine quote then it is the saddest self-indictment I've ever read in my life. I feel like Dr Who and I'm travelling back in time.

I've never met you Doc, so I'll exclude the monstrosity bit, but pot and kettle. Come on.......

There's surely a difference between mischief/trouble making and provocative posting in an attempt to encourage healthy debate.

That, at least, is my take.

My comment was made to CHC in any case-we have previously exchanged a few 'swipes'!

I can't remember any direct jousts with yourself though I note that you belong to the ever decreasing number which still doubts my integrity and motives! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 20:14:24
QUOTE(ton1901 @ Aug 17 2008, 08:09 PM) [snapback]496507[/snapback]
Why do we need another striker? i think we have played best this season so far when we had 5 in the middle and 2 up front. if we are to play 2 up front that leaves 2 back up strikers, is this not enough competition or have i missed something?

I agree about the left sided player but, i feel mcallister is wasted out there and would like to see him play inside 1 as i think he would be great at breaking up play (something i think big eric has struggled to do this season) and make some bursting runs to support the front 2.

When we have Wake, Newby, Russell, Weatherson, and Graham---INDEED!

We've got to sort out the SUPPLY to the strikers. If Jenkins can make a massive difference in that respect through the middle, we STILL need two wingers and two full backs in an ideal world before we even contemplate another striker IMO.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 20:39:02
QUOTE(ton1901 @ Aug 17 2008, 08:15 PM) [snapback]496510[/snapback]
I think the only option for that would be a loan or finding a young boy somewhere. that boy the scored against us yesterday was only 17, no reason why we cant find some1 like that somewhere and have him in around the first team squad

He's only 3 days off eighteen and was a regular in Livi's squad last season. Looks a real prospect to me-miles ahead of ANYTHING we've had since Rae took the reins.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 20:48:12
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 17 2008, 08:37 PM) [snapback]496515[/snapback]
And so do I. However in this instance you might consider the following:

1. There are few more consummate liars than Tony Blair.
2. There are few more politically biased journalists than John Pilger.
3. There are few more opportunist politicians than Alex Salmond.

The truth is out there somewhere, but I doubt if you'll find much of it in the utterances of those three.

Oh but they WILL Mr Edwards-just as they always do.

Almost every regular contributor to political debate is riding his own hobby horse, and our wee massage board is no exception.

It's laughable to see really informed and intelligent guys make complete arses of themselves when it comes to political parties, and of course the reason is simple-each aligns with the party which best suits his personal needs and aspirations.

They rarely if ever enjoy the freedom of logical analysis of available data. They'd much rather quote from their chosen Bibles, while 'rubbishing' all who disagree! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-17 21:16:26
QUOTE(princessTON @ Aug 17 2008, 09:12 PM) [snapback]496520[/snapback]
for god sake, its only the 3rd game of the season! ohmy.gif once the players have settled in and gelled together it'l be fine.

blink.gif

It depends what you mean by 'fine' Princess-once the boys have 'settled in and gelled' it should be better and more consistent, and we have been plagued with injuries.

For me, 'fine' would be genuine progress towards the SPL with clear feedback from the Board along the way.
mortonjag 2008-08-17 21:19:52
QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 17 2008, 09:10 PM) [snapback]496519[/snapback]
There is a gay card? where do i get one? does it get me a discount on pina colada?



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mortonjag 2008-08-17 21:33:25
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Aug 17 2008, 09:28 PM) [snapback]496524[/snapback]
being 'gay' is a sexual perversion in the same group as kiddy molesting, pumping dead people and doing animals.

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mortonjag 2008-08-17 21:35:43
QUOTE(forza ton @ Aug 17 2008, 09:33 PM) [snapback]496528[/snapback]
why? cos they're all s***e. laugh.gif

well newby is and russell is too f***ing wee

Aye I know-just like big Joe Harper! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-18 07:08:20
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 17 2008, 11:32 PM) [snapback]496560[/snapback]
Was that not Snodgrass ?? I thought Harding ( yes I said Harding ) put in a decent shift against him at that game at Cappielow . You can see that this boy has watched Snodgrass , plenty of running wide dragging our defence all ways .

The last time Livi played us at home, Griffiths was their best player Chris. I notice he's a flamboyant and ecumenical kid-on Saturday he wore loud green boots while last season his shocking orange ones were so 'in your face' that I started a thread about it.

Griffiths is a perfect example of what nurturing local talent can achieve. Livi can do it, Hamilton are currently heading up the SPL on the strength of it, and we haven't produced a really good player since Rae arrived.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 07:12:24
QUOTE(jim4ton @ Aug 18 2008, 12:48 AM) [snapback]496578[/snapback]
Don't knock the stand punters. Yes, they come out with the same junk most weeks due to restricted circulation. I go to most of the away games and have to listen on occassions to the vitriolic sh**e of some of our cowshed worthies. It makes going to our stand seem like a good choice despite the forced absence of feeling in the legs. Don't think it is all old guys in the stand. The seating is so cr** that you get there as lamb and leave as limping mutton. McManus must have been sent to the stand for an hour before the game. Wonder what he did to deserve it.

laugh.gif

*I'll apologise in advance for this*


In terms of general comfort, accessibility, sound quality of the PA system, and absence of wasps, the stand at Cappielow is rather poor value for money.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 07:31:25 I have no fears for this season, and still comfortably predict we'll finish mid table-possibly fifth.

Having said that I DO have considerable concerns that yet again we have signed a manager with limited experience, and it begins to look as though DI will have to get his thinking cap on quickly or another couple of Livi's and it'll be TTGD! rolleyes.gif

Davie has made a big improvement in training and in squad motivation, or so I'm told and I believe that's shown in most games. He has, however, deliberately and systematically assembled his 'small squad of quality players' to fit his concept of how games should be won, and from Davie's viewpoint I'm sure his salary will be safe for this season at least.

He claims the Chairman has been very supportive in allowing him to get the players he wanted, so he's either a lying B, or Mr Rae's off the hook' on this one. blush.gif

SO

We're in for a s***ey, crappy, boring season, which will be worsened by all the wee arseholes bragging on here that it's only results that count.

I often wonder if they are the ones who cheat at the turnstyles, as I feel I pay hard earned cash to be entertained, and even if we HAD won against St Johnstone and Livi, the football we play is mind bendingly unattractive and predictable, and we don't have a solitary entertainer in the squad-not even an Andy McLaren! sad.gif

I've noticed that 'average' managers often assemble a squad in terms of their own view of the game, and there's no question that we now have a big strong backbone to the squad. Once it grows arms and legs it'll be a much less ugly sight.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 08:03:43
QUOTE(forza ton @ Aug 17 2008, 11:51 PM) [snapback]496562[/snapback]
your self delusion is actually quite astonishing at times. sad.gif

Your superfluous use of the word 'actually' is irritating in the extreme-ACTUALLY! rolleyes.gif

I'm delighted that you're impressed, and if you'd actually like some lessons in self delusion, I'm actually free this evening. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-18 08:05:23
QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 17 2008, 09:49 PM) [snapback]496539[/snapback]
makes for a good weekend though.

ive never had a better night than the night i humped that gay, lamb corpse.

Pouffe or dyke mutton?
mortonjag 2008-08-18 08:06:55
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 18 2008, 12:02 AM) [snapback]496566[/snapback]
That is indeed my issue.

What's the age difference Willy Man? blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-18 08:08:36
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Aug 18 2008, 12:43 AM) [snapback]496575[/snapback]
at best i would say vomit...

at worst there could be some faeces, and possibly blood mixed in??
duno if this will work but here goes -

[attachment=4372:post_321...18944387.bmp][attachment=4373:post_321...18944387.jpg]

It does but the picture's crap.

I do love your signature underneath, mind!
mortonjag 2008-08-18 09:06:22
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 18 2008, 08:19 AM) [snapback]496603[/snapback]
Oh come on now......

Jamie had a go and couldn't hack it here.

Letting him go on loan to see if he get's it back seems sensile to me.

Hold on one moment-that's an easy dismissal of a talent in one short sentence.

IF Jamie came back, and IF we could get the best of him, he would HUGELY improve our costive midfield.

Do you disagree?

It takes two to tango-I'm TOTALLY convinced that he was also allowed to go because DI wanted a BIG STRONG midfield, and it's now apparent he may have gone for overkill!
mortonjag 2008-08-18 09:09:55
QUOTE(midTONs @ Aug 18 2008, 08:44 AM) [snapback]496607[/snapback]
what he says.

Hmm-if the bouncy fireman thinks that way too I now better understand something! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-18 09:11:17
QUOTE(Alibi @ Aug 18 2008, 08:50 AM) [snapback]496609[/snapback]
It's more irritating than sore, unless you suffer a severe reaction, which can be fatal. A bee stings once only (and then dies I think) but a wasp gets several goes.

Apparently wasps have no natural predators, a unique property amongst all life on earth.

I am a wasp killer and surely not unique.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 09:16:15
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 18 2008, 09:00 AM) [snapback]496612[/snapback]
Gidday Alibi,

And I thought your grey cells were more preserved than mine.

The old Academy - I was in Miss Brown's class - top floor in the main building.

We would run and lie down against the walls.

They were probably 12+ inches thick.

Sure was better than duck and cover ... under a table cloth.
http://chemistry.about.com/cs/history/v/aavid030103.htm

Stop the mischief Newt-things went on over here in total normality. I DO remember my parents seemed a wee bit worried at the peak of the crisis, but in those days we Brits still knew what stiff upper lips are! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-18 09:55:06
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 18 2008, 09:45 AM) [snapback]496629[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

I imagined air raid drills at the old Academy ? ! ? !

And that the water in the side boad was in Dubonnet bottles.

f*** - I did have a vivid imagination.

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Newt, when Mr Brown ushered you into the classroom cupboard exclaiming 'I'll never leave my boys behind' it may very well have been a 'drill' but it had f*ck all to do with air raids.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 10:33:14
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Aug 18 2008, 10:26 AM) [snapback]496643[/snapback]
All this debate over something so simple. Gay men are gay purely because they're sick of the fact that, no matter how warm the bed, lassies bums are always freezing.

Personally, I like a cold pair of cheeks to cool down my excessively warm hands.

laugh.gif ...which clearly begs the question of their approach to heterosexual relationships.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 10:38:41
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 18 2008, 10:03 AM) [snapback]496634[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Gidday mortonjag,

Read again, mate ... it was MISS Brown.

Our first male teacher was a bloke called Condon.

Note the N

And our first sports master had the name of Loban.

I am sure that Alibi will happily post the effect that Mr Loban had on him.

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I'm not sure which 'N' I'm supposed to note Newt!

I don't believe any of my Primary School teachers had a notable name. In secondary school the same applied though Fanny Allan the Arts mistress purportedly went like the clappers.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 10:41:24
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 18 2008, 10:34 AM) [snapback]496647[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-08-18 10:44:55
QUOTE(midTONs @ Aug 18 2008, 10:38 AM) [snapback]496650[/snapback]
SmithsTON has a habit of appearing and disappearing when it suits, as for being OK, has he ever? rolleyes.gif

So Anus is not dead! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-18 13:04:32
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Aug 18 2008, 12:56 PM) [snapback]496708[/snapback]
i was showing my big c*** to everyone at the weekend. Many people complimented me on my big c*** saying they'd never seen a finer specimen! He is now back with his hens.


c***adoodledoo! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-18 13:08:31
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 18 2008, 11:52 AM) [snapback]496669[/snapback]
If Jamie came back and played to the top of his ability every week then yes, he would be a great addition to the team. I'd be delighted to see it!

Reality, though, was that he spent the last couple of seasons either injured or completely lacking in form. Maybe the loan spell is what he needs but, on the evidence of his time here, I doubt it.

The negativity boys are never happier than when they're having a good old moan! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-18 13:16:03 Folk never cease to amaze me! Newby has been a pretty useful addition to the squad-he was rather poor on Saturday, but certainly no worse than Jimbo. Although I agree that the latter needs a fresh start-either in position or club, he's had MORE than ample opportunity to demonstrate the class which had folk rating him at £200,000. Class, quite frankly, shines through anywhere on the pitch, and either Jimbo never had it in the first place, or he's making a damned good job of hiding it.

WHY should Jimbo not be dropped?
mortonjag 2008-08-18 13:19:43
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 18 2008, 11:54 AM) [snapback]496670[/snapback]
Gidday pedro.mcghee,

So, if it is that easy, why does the "Stadium Director" say that it is too expensive ?
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Presumably for the same reason as not knowing form 288a can be signed when one is 'out of the country'! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-18 13:23:41
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 18 2008, 11:50 AM) [snapback]496668[/snapback]
rolleyes.gif . I was talking to Gerry before the game and you were swaying in the wind shaking the chairmans hand before he vaulted the wall .
I'm sure I saw Gerry sticking a pin in his Shoogily doll ph34r.gif

Good God-next think Gerry will be banned for shagging Parkinsons' victims in public.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 13:25:30
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 18 2008, 01:21 PM) [snapback]496723[/snapback]
negativity boys!! biggrin.gif

I think you'll find I was giving an opinion in support of the Management's decision.. happy.gif

Don't blame me-I didn't coin the phrase and the trick is that it's always used inaccurately. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-18 13:29:28
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 18 2008, 01:22 PM) [snapback]496725[/snapback]
Inverclyde is back. Some others may be later.

Thank christ!!!!

Christ


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mortonjag 2008-08-18 14:53:27
QUOTE(GibbyTON @ Aug 18 2008, 02:37 PM) [snapback]496753[/snapback]
I concur with that, i also see the Rag hater keeping silent, probably away playing golf all the time !

Playing golf 'out of the country'?
mortonjag 2008-08-18 15:00:52
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 18 2008, 01:25 PM) [snapback]496727[/snapback]
because we don't have a left sided player.

In all honesty, Jim's in poor form at thie moment. Maybe something does need to be changed - on Saturday I would have pushed him forwards for Newby.

The whole argument has been that Jimbo's a super duper player but NOT A LEFT SIDED PLAYER!!!!!

QUOTE(rex manning @ Aug 18 2008, 02:16 PM) [snapback]496744[/snapback]
Because there isn't a better option. You can't justify having Kevin Finlayson on the pitch ahead of Jim McAllister.

Superkev frustrates me no end, but at the moment he's twice as effective as Jimbo- going forward.

QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Aug 18 2008, 02:20 PM) [snapback]496748[/snapback]
Of course you can. Since Irons came in, Finlayson has been one of our best players, massively improved. We missed him on Saturday and the difference he made was obvious to anyone as soon as he came on.

McAlister simply hasn't been doing the business of late, and should be dropped like any other player. Regardless of your opinion of Kev, at least he can never, ever be called "anonymous" or "ineffectual". He's always involved, even if perhaps the odd cross is misplaced, and will never let an opposition winger have the freedom that McAlister and McGuffie did on Saturday.

That's my point really-it seems that he still retains the 'golden boy' image.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 15:06:35
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Aug 18 2008, 02:51 PM) [snapback]496758[/snapback]
My old man told me, quite correctly, that the three coldest things in the world are a man's knees, a woman's arse and a dug's nose.

It has got me through many troublesome situations knowing this.

TonInDublin

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I thought Mr Rae's dismissive glare at the negativity boys would have been a winner by a long chalk.

There again there's the Binos' pie laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-18 15:11:09
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Aug 18 2008, 03:07 PM) [snapback]496772[/snapback]
Good point.

c*** f*** s*** dick.

Now it's justified. happy.gif

NORWEGIANS ARE POUFFES





And presumably bugger each other on queer chintz suites.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 15:13:32 There's nothing to beat baked Alaska smothered in Colman's English Mustard.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 15:17:06
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 18 2008, 02:21 PM) [snapback]496749[/snapback]
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You should have a word with our poet. You'd get along famously.

I couldn't understand a word of that McArthur-does it become intelligible to music?
mortonjag 2008-08-18 15:19:46
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 18 2008, 01:36 PM) [snapback]496732[/snapback]
I never took you as being the religious type huh.gif

The Lord is my shepherd I shall not want.
He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters
He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake
Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.
Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemes; thou annointest my headwith oil; my cup runneth over
Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life. and I will dwell in the house of The Lord forever.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 15:21:02
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 18 2008, 03:18 PM) [snapback]496787[/snapback]
No. laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-08-18 15:29:56 Wasps are dopey buggers-you'll only ever get stung if you don't realise in time that one has landed on you. The secret is to stalk them-at this time of year they're even more dopey than usual and easy prey. Just wait till he's definitely landed, and gently squash the front half with a forefinger. Less venturesome folk may consider the use of a home made swatter as suggested by Chrissiboi.

Wasps are SO dopey that you can fill an empty jam jar (with the traces of jam inside) with water, and they will obligingly fly in and drown themselves!

I think the thing that puts folk off wasps as much as the fear of a sting is the ominous buzzing sound-learn to welcome that as a precursor to your next 'hit' and soon you'll be a wasp assassin par excellence!
mortonjag 2008-08-18 15:37:31
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Aug 18 2008, 03:00 PM) [snapback]496764[/snapback]
I wasn't, but this was after your impassioned hate campaign against the former management team of McInally and Clark in January/February! That dealing with the club was what I was describing. The damage had been done before you spoke I suppose, even if it was calmly.

You certainly don't get respect for losing the rag and being unpleasant in making your point, which you had been towards Jim, particularly when the other party have the decision to make. You could have offered gentleman Dougie a cucumber sandwich and a cup of Darjeeling and he still would have been dismissive of you!



Toby was perhaps the ideal mouthpiece for the impassioned hate campaign waged on this pubic massage board. Some of the stuff posted on here by cowards makes anything Toby said look like a eulogy by St Francis.

I take it you would have preferred JM to hang around!
mortonjag 2008-08-18 15:41:06
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Aug 18 2008, 03:21 PM) [snapback]496791[/snapback]
E-mail that to the club, its not guaranteed he'll see your post! Or send a shorter version to the Telegraph. Your right about the youth set-up, not a peep about that at all recently!

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......and would the Tilly print it? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-18 15:44:30
QUOTE(rex manning @ Aug 18 2008, 03:04 PM) [snapback]496767[/snapback]
Superkev frustrates me no end, but at the moment he's twice as effective as Jimbo- going forward.

Thats now a trio of crazy people on this thread.

Mortonjag is as crazy as a bag of ferrets, and can still see that McAlister's been a waste of space this season.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 15:50:17 [quote name='Dream Oak Tree' date='Aug 18 2008, 03:10 PM' post='496774']
I put our ineffectiveness down to DI's formation and tactics. 3-4-3 with no full backs or wing backs against a team who play with wingers was a recipe for disaster which was always going to gift goals, similar to last week's first half.

On top of that we had a deep lying midfield who lumped the ball forward in the hope something would break for our three forwards. Brian Wake looks noticeably disillusioned with the formation and tactics, he looks as though he prefers to do more work as one of a front two receiving service from a more creative midfield.

DI should look no further than his own game plan for the reason we lost to Livvi. I was also not too impressed with Cuthbert's attempt at saving the first goal. If a keeper gets a hand on the ball he should put it round the post, not into the net. David McGurn might not be everyone's cup of tea but IMO he's better than the two we have now. Likewise Stu Greacen is better than McManus and Weatherson's probably better than Newby.


I agree with the highlighted text, and my huge worry is that there is NO plan B. He has not acquired players who can deal with wingers, nor players who can use the wings properly. We can talk about permutations of the current squad all day, but they'll just be a slightly more effective version of plan A.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 16:04:46
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Aug 18 2008, 03:34 PM) [snapback]496801[/snapback]
I have to disagree... i'd bet my freezer's much colder than the wife arse or the dugs nose, and my knees are pretty cosy at the moment as well. rolleyes.gif

Now we know where the dug's nose is.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 16:07:06
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 18 2008, 04:03 PM) [snapback]496816[/snapback]
The only stuff I have ever liked is the weak American-style stuff. I don't like spicy food at all.

Wait till you're weaned off!
mortonjag 2008-08-18 16:23:40
QUOTE(Toby @ Aug 18 2008, 03:55 PM) [snapback]496813[/snapback]
Eh? There was a piece in the programme about it on Saturday.

Needless to say it was complete s***e of course; Rae informing us that it's had a re-vamp without actually mentioning how many teams we have, at what age groups, playing in what competitions against what standard of opposition, how they are doing and who is responsible for the coaching and development of these boys. Not to mention his omission of a seemigly embarrassing 6-1 caning by Queens Park at the Battery last week.

He did however say that he hopes to bring through the quality of players Hamilton have brought through, so all's well. I'd like to bring through boys like Man United brought through in the mid-nineties but I couldn't explain how I expect to do this. I suspect Rae is the same with his plans to emmulate Accies.

What Mr Rae's been saying doesn't seem to tie in with the information coming from those immediately involved with the youth set up. Do you think somebody has been pulling the wool over his eyes?
mortonjag 2008-08-18 16:24:58
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Aug 18 2008, 04:17 PM) [snapback]496822[/snapback]
one i recently discovered is mars milkshake - was feelin well rough and after glugging on it i felt magic. sorted me right out. sex also helps temporarily as sometimes i get the horn when im hung over (duno why this is).

any other miracle cures?

NO! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-18 16:26:10
QUOTE(midTONs @ Aug 18 2008, 04:20 PM) [snapback]496824[/snapback]
Looks like the Argyll's in battle during the Crimean War.

And for the record GibbyTon is not a brother, he is a Scottish Caucasian. rolleyes.gif

c***asian?
mortonjag 2008-08-18 16:39:12
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 18 2008, 04:24 PM) [snapback]496826[/snapback]
Nevaaaaaaaarr!!!!!!!!

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mortonjag 2008-08-18 16:40:35
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 18 2008, 04:26 PM) [snapback]496828[/snapback]
I just find trying to go about life as normal helps.

Get up, drink some water, brush your teeth, eat a massive sh1te, have a good shower then a good breakfast and you should perk up in a couple of hours.

....this did take me about 5 years to work out! mellow.gif

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mortonjag 2008-08-18 17:14:29
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Aug 18 2008, 04:49 PM) [snapback]496842[/snapback]
I tend to agree, although I believe to some extent DI had to prioritise strengthening the backbone of the team first, and will now have to offload unwanted players before he can complete the squad, hopefully by adding natural full backs, a left sided midfielder / winger and a creative centre mid. I think DI probably sees the need for these players as much as we do, but was left with a major rebuilding of the unbalanced squad he inherited from JM.

If you look at the likes of St. Johnstone and Dundee you'll see they already had the backbone and have just added some creative players, we've a bit of catching up to do, hopefully by January transfer window but more likely by start of next season.

Hopefully. DI certainly comes over as an intelligent guy. Possibly he expected the current set up to be slightly more potent in terms of attack, instead of being hampered by a midfield which always wants rid of the ball. In that respect Jenkins may prove to be the asset he appeared to be when signed. It just seems a shame that we now HAVE guys who can win the ball and dominate the midfield taking pressure off our improved central defence, yet we never have anybody who can benefit from the wide or long ball to either wing. Have you EVER seen Jimbo or Kev run past a full back to RECEIVE the ball, for example?

Anyway-here's hoping.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 17:17:12
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 18 2008, 05:14 PM) [snapback]496849[/snapback]
Well I think we need to get the matresses out and see if we can find another wage and bring someone else in .

Or maybe somebody will bring lots of munny in from 'out of the country' and the mattress can be designated to somebody who thoroughly deserves a rest.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 17:18:17
QUOTE(Deego @ Aug 18 2008, 05:11 PM) [snapback]496847[/snapback]
Interview in The Sun today, mentions the Brian Wake Bebo group. laugh.gif

and................?
mortonjag 2008-08-18 17:22:22
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 18 2008, 05:05 PM) [snapback]496845[/snapback]
NO !!!
I hope that the level of coaching is better under Derek Collins but this guy cannot get things on track unless we get our development status back .

We lost that through the club not coming up to the standard the SFA set . It was one of my questions the club still hasn't answered when they intend to do this or what are the obstacles from preventing us from achieving this .

Any boy who has talent wants to play in the best league possible against better players . We will not attract the promising youngsters from coaching schools if there are clubs there who are offering a higher level than we are .

Remember the thread about the club charging 3 quid a week value for money . I saw St Andrews BC rattling buckets at Cappielow . Would the club not be better getting their own youth team financed properly .

Why can't the club instigate some fundraising on a more regular basis for a youth set up . I asked why can't we get individual sponsors of the youth teams ?

I keep asking these questions but get no response . I certainly don't blame the coaches as they can only do so much . The overall failure to get the youth set up up to the standard of similar size clubs lays at DDFR's door .

Now I'm off to the under 19's playing Cowdenbeath at the Battery 19.00 ko

So Mr Rae has been deliberately misleading the fans?
mortonjag 2008-08-18 17:26:51
QUOTE(Deego @ Aug 18 2008, 05:20 PM) [snapback]496852[/snapback]
Someone who doesn't buy The Sun might want to read it? 1eye.gif dry.gif

Where is it-I've seen the boobs, read the footie, and scanned the rest in two minutes-don't remember seeing anything about Superkhali!
mortonjag 2008-08-18 17:29:07
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 18 2008, 05:23 PM) [snapback]496857[/snapback]
I think you'll find I am, circa September 29th, which is only 3 home games. happy.gif
JB, I expected something stronger for yourself than a coke, although the pint of Strongbow would be appreciated muchly, ta. blush.gif

Were you abandoned on some Aaalborg doorstep?
mortonjag 2008-08-18 17:38:39
QUOTE(Deego @ Aug 18 2008, 05:27 PM) [snapback]496863[/snapback]
Page 21 of 'Supergoals'. Full page. rolleyes.gif

I just saw the huge A-Z and missed Wakey's face at the top-anybody who doesn't skim read tabloids is crazy, but it proves you do miss the occasional interesting bit.

He's not very complimentary about BEANY mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-18 17:43:01
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Aug 18 2008, 11:08 AM) [snapback]496662[/snapback]
Alister Donald WAS down at Cappielow on Saturday, apparently though he had been to Whorewoods on the Friday night and ended up at an all night party up the Q.B. He stumbled down to the Norseman at 11.15 started on alchopops and was slurping on slippery nipples by half 12. He was flung out at 2.15 for trying to steal a guys brew card out his back pocket, and was last seen peeing through the letter box of the old t.v repair shop up by the station....haud on that might have been Donald McAlister

Yer Donald McAlister doesn't own a castle up at Aberfoyle by any chance?
mortonjag 2008-08-18 17:44:57 There's not any Craig Barr connected with football on Google! Can't be THAT good surely!
mortonjag 2008-08-18 17:49:51
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 18 2008, 05:25 PM) [snapback]496860[/snapback]
My old boy always told me there was nowt colder than the nipple on a witch's tit.

One of us has been misinformed. dry.gif

Had Mummy had a mastectomy?
mortonjag 2008-08-18 17:52:07
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 18 2008, 05:27 PM) [snapback]496862[/snapback]
The best hangover cure is to avoid getting pished the night before.

Don't be obtuse!

That's like chopping off some poor c*nt's leg in case he gets gangrene.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 17:56:32 I never tire of the learning meaning of things! This one's open to debate.

Cut the mustard

Meaning

To succeed; to come up to expectations.

Origin

Why cutting mustard was chosen as an example of high quality is unclear. As always in such circumstances, there are no shortage of guesses. Some of these allude to the literal difficulty of cutting mustard in its various forms; for example:

- Mustard seed, which is hard to cut with a knife on account of its being small and shiny.
- Mustard plants, which are tough and stringy and grow densely.
- Culinary mustard, which is cut (diluted) and made more palatable by the addition of vinegar.

There is no evidence to support these derivations and they give the impression of having been retro-fitted in an attempt at plausibility
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mortonjag 2008-08-18 18:00:09
QUOTE(McCauley87 @ Aug 18 2008, 05:48 PM) [snapback]496876[/snapback]
Well I'm only giong from what I've heard, I thought ome people may be aware of who he is.

Btw, it's Chris Barr tongue.gif

Craig/Chris-who's counting-it WAS Chris I googled! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-18 18:03:07
QUOTE(stubaws @ Aug 18 2008, 05:58 PM) [snapback]496881[/snapback]
i'd agree about paartalu, thought he was gash and looks lost most of the time.

the reaction to masterton getting subbed was well harsh, he seems to be the one guy in our team with the ability to play a killer pass. not everything came off for him admittedly and there was one time when he dithered so long despite the entire stand shouting 'man on' at him.

for me paartalu, newby and russell were completely non-existant. we all know mcmanus made that mistake but i'd still have in him in the side. looks like we've got 2 bombscare goalkeepers as well and wtf is with cuthberts constant hammering the ball up the park to 2 strikers against 4 or 5 defenders?!?!

the real problem was mcalister, completely exposed on the left hand side of midfield, especially with no left back to cover him. get him up front as part of the 3 even if it means finlayson in for paartalu to give us some width.

mcguffie still improving and jenkins will be essential to our midfield

Where I sit , we were shouting-'Pass the ball Steven'!
mortonjag 2008-08-18 18:15:25
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Aug 18 2008, 06:03 PM) [snapback]496890[/snapback]
I didn't read that on Saturday Toby, usually read it page to page when I get home, was so depressed by the result I just put in the pile! Had a wee look at it there.

I'd to see a proper press release, a statement of intent on the club's shiny new website. Something less low profile than the programme that most people don't buy!

We will get good publicity the week of the Hibs match and I think we're due a feature in The Sunday Times perhaps, usually a decent sized Morton interview every six months or so. Accies are certainly the model to adopt, I hope we start seeing some new talent coming through before the decade ends!

That's what's singularly lacking, and it IS what the fans want. Douglas Rae appears to me to be playing silly buggers with Alistair Donald. I can't prove anything, but I'm pissed off with the silence after the flamboyant announcement in the Tilly in January at a time when Rae and McInally desperately needed a wee smokescreen, followed by the apparent lying for six full months about his appointment.

We only have TWO DIRECTORS AT GREENOCK MORTON if you omit the one who's never in the country, and the one who's as useful as an ashtray on a superbike, and THEY ARE BOTH CALLED RAE.

Alistair Donald IS interested-FACT.

We desperately need investment-FACT

Back to your 'statement of intent'. It would go a huge way to healing the rift between Board and fans, if we were treated like adults and not kids who should be seen and not heard, and always bring a friend to matches.




mortonjag 2008-08-18 18:32:36
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Aug 18 2008, 06:30 PM) [snapback]496905[/snapback]
Toby, stop being so narcissistic, I don't have a problem with you, I won't say it again! I am saying Douglas Rae, and probably most of the businessmen who run the Morton boardroom would be dismissive of the way you spoke to McInally, were you to behave that way again.

I believe if you were to ask Douglas Rae a question next time there is a forum for it, were your manner to be calm, you would be treated with respect and wouldn't be dismissed. You asked that question in March, your behaviour in chinning Jim would have been fresh in his mind!

McInally rolled over, your views on his managerial failings were there before that 2-1 reverse at home to Clyde. Following the final whistle at that match, everyone had reached the end of their tether too! That includes me, he deserved a shot at Division One and he admitted it didn't work out and that the fans needed someone new. I'm glad he left, and I also admired the way he conducted himself.

What are you getting from Santa?
mortonjag 2008-08-18 18:35:30
QUOTE(The Bewilderedbeast @ Aug 18 2008, 06:12 PM) [snapback]496892[/snapback]
Inspectors don't get paid overtime

LINK!
mortonjag 2008-08-18 18:37:50
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 18 2008, 06:27 PM) [snapback]496901[/snapback]
Kids back today throughout East Ren.

Chrissi Sir, thanks for the thoughts. The start of my 32nd year of teaching and still getting a buzz out of it.

Good luck to all the weans who are starting in a new school today.

The anaesthetists are notorious for that too!
mortonjag 2008-08-18 18:39:33 I've always preferred French mustard on hot dogs.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 18:52:01
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Aug 18 2008, 06:40 PM) [snapback]496915[/snapback]
Your head Lord Mortonjag! I asked for the head of Mavis Davis, but Rik and Ade weren't complying! wink.gif smile.gif

I hope you have a big enough platter!
mortonjag 2008-08-18 18:56:40
QUOTE(stubaws @ Aug 18 2008, 06:44 PM) [snapback]496924[/snapback]
away to dundee next week so i dont expect us to go 3-4-3, more likely to be 3-5-2 but i think our strongest line up at the moment may well be:

---------------Cuthbert/Stewart--------------

Shimmin---Harding---McManus---Walker

------Masterton---Jenkins---McGuffie

------Finlayson---Wake---McAlister

im undecided about both keepers, never liked stewart at livi but aint been overly impressed by cuthbert either. iv mentioned on so many threads that mcalister has to play up front to get involved although may be a spell on the bench could be what he needs. i'd go with finlayson as a right winger against dundee coz we're likely to be on the back foot a lot and will need an outball. plus if its not working he can move back to right mid in a 4-4-2 or right wingback in a 3-5-2

major concern on saturday was how late irons left it to change the tactics
given the fact we were getting humped in terms of posession and never looked like scoring, hopefully he wont be afraid to shake things up in future

I couldn't believe how long it took to get Jenkins on-OK I know he's possibly not fully match fit, but he could have at least got us a vital point if not three.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 18:59:02
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 18 2008, 06:49 PM) [snapback]496928[/snapback]
Since when did c***s have legs? unsure.gif

Still, I suppose when you were a doctor you must have seen all sorts, eh?

Pediculosis pubis.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 19:03:18
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Aug 18 2008, 06:44 PM) [snapback]496923[/snapback]
Gash has been away on a quest to do his liver as much damage as possible, by all accounts; it has been a blinding success. Should my liver have a heart beat ??? Hope you all carry donor cards.

Sean, I am never whispering sweet nothings in your ear again whilst playing 'big spoon, little spoon'. Next you will be telling everyone about the romantic weekend we spent together wub.gif In response to your question though, no, good to look at but women are all snakes with tits in my book at the moment.

Darren, you are just upset at the fact not only am I older, less ginger and more distinguished than you but I have also managed to retain the services of all of the hair follicles on my napper !!!

The Jag, no. Never have figured it out. If it doesn't come with a keyboard and monitor attached I really get stuck. I would appreciate if you could email a copy of the instruction manual to me ! biggrin.gif

I'll do better-I've now developed the all new voice actuated penis pump.

'Up' and instant twelve incher.

'Down' and we're back to normal.

The only problem is that my partner has a cruel sense of humour. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-18 19:05:14
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 18 2008, 06:42 PM) [snapback]496918[/snapback]
Tam is still sooking the bunsen burners ph34r.gif

What I want to know is who is sookin' Mr Bam's bunsen.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 19:08:30
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 18 2008, 07:07 PM) [snapback]496947[/snapback]
According to the new website he ain't a Director blink.gif



Not quite true Willy Man. You're looking at a 'Contacts List'. As you very well know Mr Donald is perpetually out of contact, if not the country.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 19:12:10
QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 18 2008, 07:10 PM) [snapback]496950[/snapback]
If Dean Keenan had the skill of Lionel Messi then we probably would have kept him aswell.

He probably would be better if JM hadn't MESSED him about.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 19:14:25
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Aug 18 2008, 07:09 PM) [snapback]496949[/snapback]
Sounds to me she treats you like a dog. Up! Down! Sit! Play dead! Roll over!

Ditch the bitch laugh.gif

Unfortunately she's mother to my two little boys Munx and Fing. I've been through that sort of crap before and it's bad for the kids.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 19:16:15
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 18 2008, 07:02 PM) [snapback]496938[/snapback]
I was barely in the door this morning and she cornered me but this time she didn't suggest we go for for a drink she TOLD me precisely when we were going for a drink and ended the conversation with - AND NO EXCUSES !!!

Clearly you've NOT been boasting!
mortonjag 2008-08-18 19:18:02
QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 18 2008, 07:13 PM) [snapback]496952[/snapback]
The best cure for a hangover is to get drunk again. Simple.

That is absolutely irrefutable.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 19:20:57 WELL?
mortonjag 2008-08-18 19:35:32
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 18 2008, 07:33 PM) [snapback]496966[/snapback]
Ahh, I see.

I can't seem to find a page on Our Board and who's on it and what they do unsure.gif

Indeed and the absense of 'From the Chairman's Desk' will have me subscribing again to the Beano.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 19:46:01
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Aug 18 2008, 07:44 PM) [snapback]496975[/snapback]
You couldn't handle me! wub.gif

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mortonjag 2008-08-18 19:48:05
QUOTE(midTONs @ Aug 18 2008, 07:40 PM) [snapback]496972[/snapback]
Thinking back on a programme on C4 CALLED "a perfect v*****" I got to thinking, we hear of boob jobs and face lifts etc, in fact they are all very common, but now the latest one seems to be vaginal surgery.

Apparently it's becoming more and more popular.
Is there something wrong with these people, how far will they/it go?

So then ladies, would you want to go under the knife to give yourself the perfect fan-dangle? rolleyes.gif

Gents, would you dare suggest to your missus that she needs a bit cutting off here and there? ph34r.gif

Whats gonna be next? unsure.gif

Jessie Boys for this pish
mortonjag 2008-08-18 20:34:47
QUOTE(midTONs @ Aug 18 2008, 07:49 PM) [snapback]496983[/snapback]
the Jessie boys is clogged up with dafties asking what its like in Norway.

One must not divulge the contents of the Jessie Boys conversations, though I love the current debate about Boozehound's penile operation.

QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 18 2008, 07:56 PM) [snapback]496991[/snapback]
I suppose you've heard about the woman who had that op recently. When she came round she noticed three greeting cards at her bedside table. There was one from her husband, and one from the surgeon. The third one was from Wee Johnny in the Burns unit thanking her for his new ears.

Wee Johnny-when asked about his acquisition said 'Ah goat them aff some big c*nt in the next ward'.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 20:38:04
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 18 2008, 08:08 PM) [snapback]497005[/snapback]
Yep.
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Typical of a Chemist to produce rolleyes.gif when he means bouncy.gif thumbup2.gif cool.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-18 20:40:25
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Aug 18 2008, 08:38 PM) [snapback]497014[/snapback]
ph34r.gif

I well understand your anger-I'd be raging too if somebody discussed my amputation.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 20:43:47
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 18 2008, 07:58 PM) [snapback]496996[/snapback]
17years !!! ohmy.gif

Bloody hell man-you're still a wean yourself-get right in there-my bird's half my age-highly recommended BTW! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-18 20:45:35
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 18 2008, 07:52 PM) [snapback]496987[/snapback]
Probably arse cancer they think if they have a pain arse wink.gif

You sure have a way with words young man!

Rectal carcinoma, if you please. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-18 21:09:02
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 18 2008, 08:51 PM) [snapback]497023[/snapback]
Would you care to reveal the answer to your own question unsure.gif

All four though the final one is answered day and daily! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-18 21:27:55
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 18 2008, 09:25 PM) [snapback]497045[/snapback]
He's seen old firm fan(nnie)s?

He makes old firm f*nn**s.
mortonjag 2008-08-18 21:31:23
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 18 2008, 09:21 PM) [snapback]497040[/snapback]
Just a thought, but the doctor giving out advise on this, does he ever get turned on when play... sorry examining patients?

And what makes him such an expert on what the perfect fanny looks like?

And how good a job is that anyway, no one ever told me about jobs like that at the job centre last tme I was in...

Are you not already making a c*nt of your present occupation?
mortonjag 2008-08-18 21:34:20
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 18 2008, 09:33 PM) [snapback]497052[/snapback]
Are you gay? unsure.gif

Are you calling me a POUFFE?
mortonjag 2008-08-18 21:36:40
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 18 2008, 09:34 PM) [snapback]497055[/snapback]
How, you think it will get you a holiday?

It's worth a try-I've heard you bend over to accommodate POUFFES
mortonjag 2008-08-18 21:40:05
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 18 2008, 09:37 PM) [snapback]497061[/snapback]
How many letters?

The monkey thinks your new avatar's a POUFFE
mortonjag 2008-08-18 21:41:22
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 18 2008, 09:40 PM) [snapback]497065[/snapback]
Only thing that will be bending is my knee to kick the sorry ass poufe right up the arse

He may not know the difference! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 07:35:47
QUOTE(mccaff @ Aug 18 2008, 10:06 PM) [snapback]497078[/snapback]
a. just because he's right footed doesn't mean he cant play on the left. he became everybody's favourite player over the last few seasons always playing on the left. why is it that when he has a bad run of form all of a sudden he cant play there.

b. the reason he plays in a deeper role rather than up front is because he does so much defensively. same reason mcguffie's gets the nod ahead of finlayson. i actually think mccallister's been solid so far in this new role. a few good runs as well. it might not be his best position but i can't think of anybody else who could play there.

What you say may be essentially true. I think there's more to it. I clearly remember watching Jimbo play for the reserves in the John Maisano position when we were still in the third and I thought he looked great. He was then converted into a left sided machine by the Clown Prince of tactics and programmed to believe that was his best slot. At the moment, IMHO he is pure mince, and doesn't deserve the jersey.

I DO think Jimbo has potential-it could be developed here if we had more money, but the coffers have been closed. We have eleven days to do what would be best for us and Jimbo.

We won't.
mortonjag 2008-08-19 07:38:27
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 18 2008, 10:51 PM) [snapback]497108[/snapback]
would it not be better to subscribe to shares in Morton FC ?

I have already read 'Journey into the Unknown!
mortonjag 2008-08-19 07:46:00
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 18 2008, 10:54 PM) [snapback]497113[/snapback]
but then is the 288a actually signed or just lodged or submitted on line ?

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There is an on line version which serves the same purpose.


Here are some relevant rules:


It is against the Club regulations for persons to pass juveniles or adults over or beneath a turnstyle without a ticket. laugh.gif

One assumes that if said turnstyle HAS said ticket, said persons may pass juveniles or adults under said turnstyles ad libitum---space permitting I'd imagine! nerd.gif


mortonjag 2008-08-19 07:56:27
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 18 2008, 11:10 PM) [snapback]497125[/snapback]
OK, mortonjag - try this for size.

7 years ago, DDFR's credibilty was at a record high.

From the many postings on this board it has slumped.

Now, it appears to be at a record low.

And there appears to be, as someone posted, a lack of a statement of intent.

A few months ago, we were planning for the SPL.

Now, after a poor start to the season (2 points from a possible 9) crowds are poor and DFFR is pleading or complaining depending on which posters one reads.

And without a winning streak soon, the SPL is totally out of the question.

You've suggested on numerous occasions a director of football.

I can't see that happening.

Your other suggestion was that DDFR take more of a backseat role.

Perhaps he is more willing to consider this now than in the past.

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There is absolutely no shadow of doubt that the majority of fans now feel we are stagnating under the Raes.

When I suggested a couple of years ago that Mr Rae take a back seat and appoint a director of football, I still believed that SPL status might be attainable on the strength of Golden Casket. Things have changed with Mr Rae adopting a tight budgetary stance, which is, of course his prerogative.

What is wrong IMO is that Mr Rae appears STILL to imagine that all is well when lack of financial success is staring him in the face. I somehow can't help feeling that Mr Donald may be rubbing his hands in glee on some distant shore each time he hears the latest attendance figures from Cappielow.
mortonjag 2008-08-19 08:07:38

QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Aug 18 2008, 11:41 PM) [snapback]497142[/snapback]
The question was perfectly valid, and had it been answered then fine, but the spamming Aussie decided he wanted to take it off-topic as usual, and I could see the thread going in exactly the same was as the 20-odd page thread entitled Alistair Donald.

Listen to me sonny boy,'the spamming Aussie' knows FAR more about shares than you do about football and women put together AND is old enough to be your Grandad. He did NOT take it off topic!

WAS THERE ANY NEED FOR YOUR PUERILE POST. Stick to your Panini posters and let adults discuss the things that really matter.

mortonjag 2008-08-19 08:12:04
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 19 2008, 07:52 AM) [snapback]497171[/snapback]
I am confused.

In 1963/64 they were definitely turnstiles.

When were they replaced by the new style ?

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I'm not sure of the ratio of turnstyles with a ticket to turnstyles without a ticket Newt. What I can tell you is that most, if not all of the present turnstyles are extremely old!
mortonjag 2008-08-19 08:18:30
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 19 2008, 08:10 AM) [snapback]497176[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

Well, I suppose that makes me about 42, judging by that recent article in the Sun.

I thank you sir.

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I know what age you are Newt-but I shall keep Mum!

I was surprised to see little Steve Aitken step into the breech vacated by the more vociferous Rae satellites.

They are going down like flies. Mortonjag is able to post his honestly held views with relative impunity. Surely there is not some verminous sub-culture of sugaraeholics breeding insidiously in the bowels of Feart Matilda.
mortonjag 2008-08-19 08:22:47
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 19 2008, 08:14 AM) [snapback]497179[/snapback]
So, we replaced the old turnstiles with second hand ones ?

From Love Street ?

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I believe the Stadium Director-aka Sn. Rae stated he did not have 'enuf munny' to replace the existing rusting relics.

Once the share issue comes to a head of steam we'll probably get two nice new ones to go with a plastic pitch and third division status.
mortonjag 2008-08-19 08:27:33
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 18 2008, 10:19 PM) [snapback]497087[/snapback]
It's a Rowlf actually happy.gif

It's a POUFFE ROWLF rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 08:28:36
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 18 2008, 09:45 PM) [snapback]497070[/snapback]
Some people get pleasure out of the strangest things rolleyes.gif

There are indeed many queer tastes.
mortonjag 2008-08-19 08:31:13
QUOTE(Alibi @ Aug 19 2008, 08:26 AM) [snapback]497182[/snapback]
They're running a bus from Paisley....

Two jumbo jets now-response has been good.
mortonjag 2008-08-19 08:54:33
QUOTE(jimmy boag delivers @ Aug 19 2008, 08:42 AM) [snapback]497188[/snapback]
I am about half way through the book and I am pretty disappointed with it. I don’t want to be too downbeat as it is great to read about Ritchie’s fantastic moments on the pitch, but I think the author could have achieved so much more. You only have to feel the thinness of the book and witness the large font to see that a little info has been padded out a very long way.

Here we go - first, I do not feel there is much warmth to the book – probably as a result of the lack of information on Andy Ritchie the person. Ton fans know what he did on the pitch but I was hoping to learn more about Ritchie the person. Ritchie’s childhood, education and coming of age passed me by in the blink of an eye. I think the author could have spent a little more time getting some stories from Ritchie as there is a distinct lack of character.

Second, and leading on from the 1st point – there are few quotations from Ritchie. Again, this leaves me slightly cold in that I want to not only know more about Ritchie but also what his own personal view on events in his life. In particular I would like to know more about the Ritchie/Stein relationship. I want to know more about the Ritchie’s feelings on not gaining a Scotland cap in the late 70’s. There may be hard subjects for Ritchie to open up on but surely that should be the whole point of the book? Otherwise no one – Ton fans and neutrals alike – learn anything we didn’t already know.

Third, I am not a big fan of the writer’s style. The book reads like an excited fans anecdote rather than a serious biography – it doesn’t strike me as the type of book a neutral fan could pick up, read and enjoy. Not only is there a lack of information about Ritchie the person, but the book also takes a short matter-of-fact to reporting pretty much all Morton’s fixtures season upon season. I am beginning to find it slightly tedious let alone a neutral football fan. The book just doesn’t have the vital spark I’m afraid.

Fourth, as already pointed out there are errors. Errors I can accept but some – like player names is not really acceptable. I won’t go on about it anymore.

Anyway – I’ll continue to plow on and hopefully read another 30 pages on the train home tonight.

Oh dear-never mind if it's so bad I'll get mine in Oxfam in a couple of months! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 08:57:10
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 19 2008, 07:06 AM) [snapback]497160[/snapback]
I received an email with an Excel spreadsheet this morning.

? ? ? ?

For all Maths champs... (including future champs too)

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Find the 6th Number?



1, 2, 6, 42, 1806,?


6th number is the password of the attachment.

_______________________________________________________________

Seemed a bit simple to me.

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But I entered the password and the bloody thing has been all over India, the Middle East and now Australia.

How strange.

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Alistair Donald?
mortonjag 2008-08-19 09:22:13
QUOTE(Savo @ Aug 19 2008, 09:00 AM) [snapback]497192[/snapback]
It's patently obvious Jim McAlister is being badly hampered by the new system - his body language is screaming as much.

He is constrained right away by the fact 3 players are used ahead of him. There is often nowhere for him to go when he picks the ball up from lying deep.

That is preventing him from having any real impact in an attacking sense - and more importantly it is harming us as a team. No wonder he's becoming frustrated.

What I don't understand is why he has not been moved forward already at the expense of either Newby or Russell. Irons and Collins have already seen what you get out of him in that front running role.

One final point - in my opinion all of this is the exact reason why Jim is getting into needless arguments with referees and being uncharacteristically stroppy with his team-mates on occasion.

I'm not saying it excuses such behaviour, but it does makes it somewhat understandable.

I agree-AND disagree. Newby, Russell, Wake, and indeed Spoonsy are potential goal getters-Jimbo so far is a 'hit and hoper'. IF those others were getting a decent supply-for example from either wing, or from a more creative midfield, they'd be knocking them in. Why should they be sacrificed to accommodate Jimbo as a front runner?

I strongly agree about the frustration part, and I feel extremely sorry for the boy. I sincerely believe he needs a move to further a potentially successful career, instead of ending up like Jamie did last season for similar reasons.
mortonjag 2008-08-19 09:32:58
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 19 2008, 09:10 AM) [snapback]497193[/snapback]
This is the biggest waste of time, effort and money. Any women presenting at doctor wishing this operation should be immediately referred to the psychology department at best or sectioned at worst.
Complete self-obsessed nonsense. There was a piece about the programme in The Independent yesterday and appartently one young woman had the procedure done because her sister was teasing her about her v*****!! Christ!! What she should have done is get rid of her sister!
What we need is some sort of population cull. Maybe the forthcoming conflict with Russia won't be too bad after all.

HA-McArthur, and therein lies the problem. As the procedure is available and CONSIDERED ethical, any doctor refusing to refer such women for a second opinion would be deemed in breach of his terms of service!

That's the sort of thing that happens when politicians and bureaucrats are allowed to run professions and services of which they have minimal understanding. I know how I would deal with those F*NNIES-indeed they would top your population cull list! ph34r.gif

QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 19 2008, 09:12 AM) [snapback]497194[/snapback]
Oh for Christ sake mods, who the hell would be offended by the word v*****. Get a grip. mad.gif

That's what happens when bureaucrats are allowed to run things they don't understand. Hmm-it seems all too common. ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 10:32:35
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Aug 19 2008, 09:36 AM) [snapback]497201[/snapback]
MJ

As I stated, it was a perfectly valid question, and if someone had the information for the original poster then great, but Newton attempted to take the topic in another direction which happens to 99.9% of threads on here, and it's unbelievably tiresome to read over and over again.

Now I tend not to post on topics unless they are football-related, hell maybe I just decided to say what I think, it doesn't happen too often with me you see, but you never fail to disappoint in your replies. I was absolutely certain that I would wake up to some condescending remark about my age/intelligence etc. from yourself, and you certainly delivered.

The last I'm saying on the topic. Have a fantastic day smile.gif

This was your original comment:

Honestly, is there any need to have another thread going over this again?



That says it all. OK-you added the qualifier that you find long repetitive threads tiresome. You know the solution and it's NOT by trying to muffle other folk's legitimate opinions.

The thread was about the share issue and the related EGM. NewTON did NOT take the topic in another direction-you incorrectly decided he had! dry.gif

You ARE correct-stick to your opinions about football- the game- and leave those with experience and knowledge to sort out the business issues.

Just for the record son-I only ever don the patronising bunnet for little chaps who have grandiose ideas of their own importance.

We've finally got to a stage where criticism of the regime is tolerated-almost welcomed. I take it you regard that as a bad thing.
mortonjag 2008-08-19 10:41:40
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Aug 19 2008, 10:30 AM) [snapback]497207[/snapback]
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So, you can speak for the majority of fans can you?
What a joke you are.

I'm sorry. You have evidence to the contrary I imagine. You CERTAINLY haven't got it from this massage board dry.gif

Mortonjag is entirely happy to amuse blind sycophantic weasels.

Do you have any informative data, or is your post a further example of resentment? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 10:53:51
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 19 2008, 10:41 AM) [snapback]497211[/snapback]
Actually..the thread was only about if anyone had attended the EGM, the original poster made no mention of the share issue in their first post happy.gif

laugh.gif Actually that should have been 'his'! laugh.gif

QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Aug 19 2008, 10:48 AM) [snapback]497213[/snapback]
Actually Puggs, there was a new thread started last night (see post 64) but some clever mod decided to merge it just to confuse everyone laugh.gif

So we're all in the clear! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 11:06:10
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 19 2008, 10:58 AM) [snapback]497216[/snapback]
Assuming you are fully aware of the sexuality of the poster. I was not so opted for the non-gender specific term.

I thank you smile.gif

Edit - And upon further enquiries their gender is not set in their profile so I was correct in what I said. wink.gif

No you didn't-you simply displayed your usual abysmal grasp of your native language.

If you had wished, you could have opted for the all too common and stultifying 'his/her'. Indeed, for complete avoidance of confusion, 'his/her/its' may have been appropriate.

It's bad enough being ignorant young man. Arguing with those who DO know is plainly silly.

mortonjag 2008-08-19 12:10:48
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Aug 19 2008, 11:28 AM) [snapback]497224[/snapback]
You may believe him to be correct that Rae is holding the club back in some ways - I don't know that I entirely disagree with that either.
What he is wrong about is that he does not and never will speak for or have the voice of the majority of Morton fans.
Here's a wee bit of info for you. This message board is not "real life" and the majority of Morton fans do not use it.

Resentment? I honestly have no idea what you are going on about but once again your reply to me contains petty schoolboy name calling. Why do always you have to demean yourself with these insults and name calling? Were you bullied as a child?

You described me as 'a joke'. Do you expect to give and not receive in return?

The fact is that the majority of fans (this massage board is representative enough for me-if it's not for you explain why) is now unhappy with the Rae Dynasty, and I'm perfectly entitled to 'speak for' them-note parenthesis.

As for name calling-it's perfectly simple RH-you jumped in uninvited with yet another of your viperous and inaccurate posts in pursuit of your long running grievance.

I suggest you accept that Mortonjag has been for the most part, correct all along. Others are now putting in their tuppence worth in my support where previously they may have agreed, but chose to stay quiet.





QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 19 2008, 11:48 AM) [snapback]497227[/snapback]
Misplaced indignation!

You made exactly the kind of statement that you'd go down someone elses throat for. Remember and say IMHO next time. rolleyes.gif

WTF are you babbling about? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 12:19:44
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 19 2008, 11:54 AM) [snapback]497230[/snapback]
But you said I should have said 'his' when clearly it is not known.

Don't you hate it when I tell you the truth eh wink.gif

You SHOULD have said 'his'.'His' is grammatically correct and still entirely acceptable where gender remains undefined.

Had you wished, you could-as I indicated- have used 'his/her'.

The noun 'poster' is singular, and in NO CIRCUMSTANCE would 'their' be appropriate, in relation to a singular noun.

I never hate being told the truth young man. Normally when people contend my statements they find themselves to have been misguided. rolleyes.gif

mortonjag 2008-08-19 12:30:19
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 19 2008, 12:19 PM) [snapback]497239[/snapback]
What am I babbling about? Seems fairly self-explanatory.

What evidence do you have for your intial statement? If none (messageboard posters aren't entirely representative I suspect), then it is YOUR OPINION and should be identified accordingly. Don't you agree? happy.gif

NO-I strongly disagree. If you don't think the focus of attention of any real footie fan those days is the 'unofficial forum' I believe you are misguided. That is where the pulse of the real fans can be palpated.

Less enthusiastic fans are voting with their feet-nothing could be MORE OBVIOUS. They can't even be arsed coming to Cappielow any more, let alone demonstrating enough enthusiasm to debate on our massage board.

For your information, Real Hoops' agenda has little to do with Morton. He has bitterly resented Mortonjag for many a day, and his post was nothing other than another personal attack.
mortonjag 2008-08-19 12:37:17
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 19 2008, 11:55 AM) [snapback]497231[/snapback]
That's going to be the thing with this league this season.

There isn't a team that's not capable of beating any other team on a given day - it's just going to be a case of which players are on form that day.

Livi just had more players on form.

It's a bit early to criticise Newby too much - he just had a bad game. He's done pretty well in other games.

I think it had a lot to do with their having an astute manager who exploited our inherent weaknesses-on form or not.
mortonjag 2008-08-19 12:38:51
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 19 2008, 12:28 PM) [snapback]497241[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED
mortonjag 2008-08-19 12:40:37
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 19 2008, 12:38 PM) [snapback]497246[/snapback]
Possibly so. Time will tell

Indeed, as it always does, and has in the case of the Rae Dynasty.
mortonjag 2008-08-19 12:45:43
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 19 2008, 12:37 PM) [snapback]497244[/snapback]
I think you're wrong - this messageboard is NOT representative.

It's peopled by people who:

- have regular unfettered access to a computer
- have spare time to spend reading and writing posts
- are bothered enough to post.
- often have their own wee agendas

e.g. militant millionaire playboys such as myself.

It does not, imo, capture the majority of Morton supporters; a lot of whom will not fall into any of the above categories.

Do you sincerely believe that the majority of Morton fans is happy with the current regime, and if so, can you define the yardstick for that opinion.

I agree that the forum represents a cross section. I strongly believe that cross section DOES reflect majority opinion.
mortonjag 2008-08-19 12:48:40
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 19 2008, 12:43 PM) [snapback]497250[/snapback]
oh FFS!

I refer my learned friend to my previous post on another topic regarding "agendas".



My 'agenda' seems to have proven positive Trumpton.

You seem to be of the opinion that the current incumbents at Cappielow are 'doing fine'!
mortonjag 2008-08-19 12:52:08
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 19 2008, 12:46 PM) [snapback]497254[/snapback]
Which one was Frankly - the man or the Fish?

'frankly' was not capitalised!

'Frankly' is a merman.
mortonjag 2008-08-19 12:58:34
QUOTE(midTONs @ Jul 29 2008, 06:44 PM) [snapback]486218[/snapback]
We ended up heading down by the tower and I bought a 12 pack of the same beer for around 7 euros.
Correct and if I get any more s*** from places like the Jimmy Watt I'll be giving up eating as well. laugh.gif

How much luvly munny have you saved since you went on the 'wagon'? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 13:05:39
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Aug 19 2008, 12:57 PM) [snapback]497262[/snapback]
Yeah right. unsure.gif Dont flatter yourself.



Then mortonjag will assume that in future any post you make about mortonjag will not be bristling with palpably blatant hostility and resentment! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 13:09:34
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Aug 19 2008, 12:55 PM) [snapback]497258[/snapback]
Didn't realise the Raes were now candidates for a place on the left of our midfield rolleyes.gif
This whole thing about not rating McGuffie meaning you can't watch games probably is arrant nonsense anyway.



QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 19 2008, 01:00 PM) [snapback]497265[/snapback]
I don't think anything at all has been proven.

And I'm not sure how you came to your assessment of my opinion?

p.s. using ' ' can be quite a negative thing on here, I've noticed.

I know that PLENTY has been proven! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 13:14:50
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 19 2008, 12:55 PM) [snapback]497259[/snapback]
You are not telling me anything I don't already know.

However I am comfortable with the fact I don't have the best grammar around, you on the other hand take it as a sign of a lesser being. I'm sure you will get over it at some point smile.gif

Don't be daft. I wouldn't dream of arguing with you about piping matters. I'm sure that if I did you'd regard me as a wee bit silly!

QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Aug 19 2008, 01:00 PM) [snapback]497266[/snapback]
You really are a helmet. Why do you insist on pulling people up on stupid things like that? If you just stuck to posting your opinion (some of which is very interesting) instead of trying to pull out the "respect your elders" card & "son" chat then maybe a lot of people on here wouldn't think you were such a senile, old, slippers in the freezer type, looney tune.

Don't foist your own misguided thoughts on others! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 13:17:15
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 19 2008, 01:14 PM) [snapback]497277[/snapback]
NOTHING has been proven!! rolleyes.gif

Plenty has been proven. I am party to lots of information. I know we've been here before. Many others are party to the same information. I do not share it with anonymous posters! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 13:23:10
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Aug 19 2008, 01:21 PM) [snapback]497281[/snapback]
So we've got a problem on the left side of midfield.

Indeed we have-we haven't currently got enuf munny to sort it! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 13:32:48
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 19 2008, 01:23 PM) [snapback]497283[/snapback]
NOTHING has been proven - unless you can prove that it has.

"I know something you don't know!" - That is frankly the last bastion of the defeated! smile.gif

Not at all-it's a simple statement of fact, like the one about us having a problem with the left side of midfield!
mortonjag 2008-08-19 13:35:00
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Aug 19 2008, 01:24 PM) [snapback]497284[/snapback]
Am I not getting any answers to my questions? rolleyes.gif

I would still really like to know why my post was, as you said "uninvited" and who it is that I should ask permission of to make my post? Is it true that not only do you speak for the whole Morton support but you are now policing the message board as well?

I don’t suppose you'll admit your arrogant mistake but it's not like you to simply brush your own errors under the carpet.

Oh wait,. ,..Actually it is exactly like you to do that. laugh.gif

Keep talking to yourself! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 13:44:38
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Aug 19 2008, 01:31 PM) [snapback]497293[/snapback]
I think this board is quite representative of the views of Morton fans in general, with a slant towards a more diplomatic version of how people view goings on at the club.

I usually talk to lot of people in and around Cappielow, the Norseman etc. friends and people I frequently meet at games and then other people who don’t go to Cappielow but are very interested in what’s happening at the club (sleeping supporter’s etc.).

I would say that although MJ comes across as something of a dissident voice on this board, there are many I know who would make him sound very diplomatic. There are many people who love Morton and have a high level of expectation in the style of football we should play, where our standing should be and how the club should be run. These are mainly very knowledgable people who have been brought up in the best traditions of Morton, yet many of them don't go to Cappielow but could return if we improve our performance as a club.

They are a bit like myself if I may say so, however I keep my season ticket going and follow the Ton with great optimism that we will return to the standards we grew up with. Because I am a season ticket holder however doesn’t mean I had to swear on oath to pretend everything is great at Cappielow when a lot of things can be improved. I tell it as I see it and that probably means I would find it difficult to persuade a friend to come to Cappielow, as the Chairman asked, without lying about the quality of football on offer.

How would I be able to describe recent performances in a way that would make people want to attend? I’d have to face those people during or after the match and they’d be questioning my judgement or thinking my standards or football knowledge had dropped dramatically. Those people will know when I start enthusing about the football and then there’e a chance they may return to Cappielow, and if I’m telling the truth they might keep coming.

An interesting post DOT.

Sometimes I wonder if I should start extolling the virtues of the present regime!!! unsure.gif

I weary of personal attacks now and again. I expected them when only myself and a few others were critical, but it's so obvious that there is general dissatisfaction now.

It is equally obvious that several posters will claim that black is white in attempts to discredit me. That is dishonest, and does not contribute positively to the debate.

mortonjag 2008-08-19 13:50:05
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 19 2008, 01:44 PM) [snapback]497300[/snapback]
Nope, sorry MJ.

My dictionary's definition of "proven" includes the word "demonstrate". You can't PROVE something by referring to something that you can't/ won't demonstrate, I'm afraid.

Look it up.

Come to think of it, our problem with left midfield is not a fact, but our perceived opinion - albeit a common one.

If you choose to discount the ground swell of opinion on this pubic massage board, and the relative exodus of fans from Cappielow as non demonstrative I'm afraid you think in a different way from me.

What do you make of DOT's post?
mortonjag 2008-08-19 13:53:22
QUOTE(tontastic @ Aug 19 2008, 01:47 PM) [snapback]497305[/snapback]
Posting on a forum is a peculiar thing. You get the chance to give a title, a description then a main body to a post. Some posters will insist on posting a completely random title which appears only weakly linked to the subject that they are talking about. Others follow the spirit of reason and post briefly and to the point. We all suffer the effects of posters who drag many a topic down their depraved back alley of an agenda.

All of this I am suggesting relates to the newspaper world where many a headline hides the truth behind a story or the agenda of the editor or owner, and many pages of print can bear the subliminal message against/for the government or whoever.

If you were a newspaper/magazine whatever ... which one would suit your style of posting?




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Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.


News of the World! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 13:59:03
QUOTE(midTONs @ Aug 19 2008, 01:53 PM) [snapback]497308[/snapback]
The Beano

I think the Big Mod wants us to be serious! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 14:12:03
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Aug 19 2008, 02:01 PM) [snapback]497316[/snapback]
Hmm? wink.gif Still no answer. Please tell me why my post was "uninvited" I'd really like to know who invites the posters on YOUR message board.

If your problem is honestly just one of semantics, I perceived you as 'unwelcome' when you posted this!


What a joke you are.


That was all.


If your problem is honestly just one of semantics, I invite you to confirm that!

mortonjag 2008-08-19 14:14:51
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Aug 19 2008, 02:02 PM) [snapback]497317[/snapback]
I was going to say that sad.gif
He is being serious mellow.gif wink.gif

Think I must be the Greenock Telegraph, full of nonsense stories and bad spellingg. laugh.gif

With the occasional inaccurate press release from Cappielow thrown in for good measure? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 14:16:01
QUOTE(forza ton @ Aug 19 2008, 02:06 PM) [snapback]497320[/snapback]
i'm going to miss you all terribly. please look after mj and call him a c*** at least once a day. he likes that.

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laugh.gif

May your willie be burned to a cinder!
mortonjag 2008-08-19 14:19:18
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Aug 19 2008, 02:13 PM) [snapback]497327[/snapback]
rolleyes.gif It took you nearly two hours to come up with that one.
very poor.

I invited you to confirm that your problem is simply one of semantics.
mortonjag 2008-08-19 14:20:56
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 19 2008, 02:13 PM) [snapback]497326[/snapback]
If I've learned anything from football messageboards is that the majority of people who post on them are self-important, opinionated wankers. I take it everyone on here has had a look at Pie and Bovril for instance? Jesus, what a bunch of ill-informed inbreds. It makes this place look like Glasgow University.
Football message boards attract two kinds of people; those who like a laugh and don't take it too seriously and those "with contacts" who think "they know".
Some of the nicest people I've met in my life have been Morton supporters and some of the most spiteful, horrid pricks I've met have also been Morton supporters.

Aye McArthur, and a third group who flagrantly and unashamedly foist their capitalism on innocent posters! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 14:23:06
QUOTE(forza ton @ Aug 19 2008, 02:18 PM) [snapback]497333[/snapback]
you're gonna miss me mj eh?

wub.gif

May you walk under a herd of stampeding bulls! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 14:24:19
QUOTE(tontastic @ Aug 19 2008, 02:17 PM) [snapback]497332[/snapback]
quoth the man from "The Digger"

potential ethnic slur not removed! unsure.gif

OH-this is what you meant. My Dad would have been impressed!

If you are looking for news and views in the world of Field Archaeology then you have come to the right place. Use the menu on the left or above to navigate to the latest issue or view the archive.

The Digger is produced as a regular newsletter by a digger somewhere in the UK and gets right into the nitty gritty of field archaeology - warts and all!
mortonjag 2008-08-19 14:42:40
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Aug 19 2008, 02:40 PM) [snapback]497347[/snapback]
Indeed. Never ceases to amaze me how people on messageboards often seem to think that people actually give a flying feck about what they do. In all honesty, if anyone on here just stopped posting for no reason, I really wouldn't care less, never mind going away for a couple of weeks.
Do folk have no real friends to tell these things? unsure.gif
Now, if you will all excuse me, I'm away to the cemetary to watch for passing helicopters ohmy.gif

Watch out for seagulls.
mortonjag 2008-08-19 14:45:20
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Aug 19 2008, 02:36 PM) [snapback]497344[/snapback]
Semantics was not the problem, only your excuse for your arrogance.

Was it just semantics when you stated that my post (a question) was inaccurate? rolleyes.gif

Just go away now, I don’t expect nor need an apology from you as your condescension and obtuseness is there for all to see.

Anyway, I’m sure by now everyone is more than bored with this.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

What makes you sure you can gauge the opinion of others.

I think that by your own 'logic' that entitles me to say........


You are a joke! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 15:18:34
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Aug 19 2008, 03:13 PM) [snapback]497363[/snapback]
Oh aye. This was the topic at the start of the thread.....I almost forgot!

Indeed-it went off thread at post 89! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 15:21:30
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Aug 19 2008, 12:57 PM) [snapback]497263[/snapback]
One of the turnstyles in the late 70s/early 80s was called "the Benny Rooney turnstyle" because our manager at the time kept all cash coming through that one.

Oh well-he certainly deserved his rewards-I was positively thrilled by some of the football played in those days.
mortonjag 2008-08-19 16:09:48
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Aug 19 2008, 03:26 PM) [snapback]497375[/snapback]
And the chairman?

If you mean Hal Stewart-he was worth his weight in gold to the club.
mortonjag 2008-08-19 17:00:15
QUOTE(Savo @ Aug 19 2008, 04:41 PM) [snapback]497399[/snapback]
I honestly believe he can prove you wrong about the hit and hope bit, mj. He played in an advanced role against Dundee and Livi (I think) at Cappielow near end of season, scored our only goals in both games, and more than looked the part.

I should also add I am not one of those getting at Jon Newby - far from it in fact. I actually think he makes very intelligent runs. In speed of thought he is a step ahead of the centre mid at times.

But whatever way we work it, if it is to be a 3 up front, then it is imperative Jim is a part of it IMO.

Maybe I should put it on record that I'm not anti-Jimbo. I've never felt a need to overly criticise him until this season, and he's played a huge part for us in previous years. I'd be quite happy to see him tried out as you suggest for-say-45 minutes on Saturday, and if it's not working sub him. I simply think it's wrong to keep planking him out on the left.
mortonjag 2008-08-19 17:06:55
QUOTE(Bryan @ Aug 19 2008, 05:04 PM) [snapback]497405[/snapback]
away with fing ph34r.gif

laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 17:27:54
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Aug 19 2008, 05:17 PM) [snapback]497412[/snapback]
I think you'll find that a large number of the Club's core support use this forum. If not to post regularly, then to gauge opinion and go away and discuss issues with friends/down the pub/on the terraces. I think if a polling company were to ask people who regularly post/read and go away to discuss topics on here, they would be able to come up with statistics representative of the views of a majority of regular supporters.

I don't have the money to pay Populus, but I'm fairly confident that most of the threads on here, the ones that get as many responses as this anyway, back up what I'm saying.

Its ok to be sycophantic and shout 'For he's a jolly good fellow' or the like when the rich man who gives you a football club to support is actually developing it. But, sadly, Mr Rae appears to be courting another rich man to take over in terms of investment, if not with a view to selling the club on. He sees us as the plebs and nothing more, make no mistake. He is a businessman, he knows the right things to say, he would never tell you that of course. He is going to throw out a few platitudinous statements now and again, but they are just that, platitudes. Grand ideas that sound nice when he says them, but amounting to jacksh*t!

I think a proper forum where all of us can have our questions answer first is due soon. I've not been interested in the past, but I have a few of my own to ask the man and I will be there next time.

What makes you imagine that we're about to have a Q & A where The Chairman will honestly and openly address questions (I think that's what you're suggesting).
mortonjag 2008-08-19 17:35:00 We will take between 2000 and 3000.
mortonjag 2008-08-19 17:45:01
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Aug 19 2008, 05:38 PM) [snapback]497430[/snapback]
Or alternatively, you could just have said. "You're right RH I did make a tit of myself, sorry, now.. back on topic"
It's just a guess, but I reckon that if anyone here could be regarded as a laughing stock it would be the grown man that can't admit when he's wrong, uses juvenile name calling and still keeps a stuffed toy. wink.gif

Have a nice evening now!

What makes you think you can gauge the opinion of others RH? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 17:50:52
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Aug 19 2008, 05:37 PM) [snapback]497429[/snapback]
Most supporters clubs are only on their second bus, no chance of 3000!

I like to be positive at all times. The curiosity element will haul quite a few in.
mortonjag 2008-08-19 17:52:10
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Aug 19 2008, 05:49 PM) [snapback]497443[/snapback]
Can't you read? mellow.gif
It's also just a guess but I reckon most people are bored with this nonsense.

Good.
mortonjag 2008-08-19 17:54:08
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 19 2008, 05:46 PM) [snapback]497441[/snapback]
What I want to know is is there a job in Quality Control ?
Willowman was asking tongue.gif

You'd get bored very quickly-one c*nt's very much the same as another!
mortonjag 2008-08-19 20:07:17
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Aug 19 2008, 06:50 PM) [snapback]497475[/snapback]
The U19s game was postponed and the U17s beat Raith Rovers 3-0 at St Andrews. rolleyes.gif

Were you there Anus? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 20:08:38
QUOTE(Mick @ Aug 19 2008, 06:50 PM) [snapback]497476[/snapback]
I have a new found level of respect for Brian Wake....

He was rather uncomplimentary about Jamie too! blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 20:12:48
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Aug 19 2008, 06:21 PM) [snapback]497464[/snapback]
That’s a very good point, there are better teams than Morton with right footed players on the left and vice versa. Come to think of it, Jim has put in some excellent performances on the left (E.g. vs Killie) and through the centre as an attacking midfielder (E.g. vs Dunfermline away).

He’s been tried on the right several times, though usually for just part of a game, and if memory serves he produced very little, certainly less than Kevin Finlayson. You may have hit the nail on the head in that if Jim’s not playing well it’s because he’s off form rather than out of position.

When we play 3-5-2 I think Jim and Kev do as good a job as any wing backs in the division, due mainly to their work rate and pace. Maybe we’ll just have to make do until we can offload some unwanted players. It’s a bit frustrating that we’re taking so long to build a balanced looking team, especially when you see the team Livvi cobbled together, playing a solid looking 4-4-2 with players in their natural positions.

I think the only formation that suits the players we have is 3-5-2, which has strangely been the case for the last few seasons.

'Fraid I disagree-both have fantastic work rate and track back well but neither is a natural defender who can cope properly with a winger.

QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 19 2008, 07:05 PM) [snapback]497482[/snapback]
I'm not at all convinced with 3-5-2 defensively - when full-backs overlap neither McAllister nor Finlayson have the positional awareness or experience to cope with this: opposition teams identified it last season (notably the second game at Dunfermline) and I think Irons has as well.

Indeed.
mortonjag 2008-08-19 20:16:45
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Aug 19 2008, 06:21 PM) [snapback]497463[/snapback]
This'll be one of the rare occasions when the Hibs fans are outnumbered by the away support. Anyone not there by 7pm will be risking a lockout. I'm running several hundred buses to the game - all with LRT written on the side.

unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 20:24:29
QUOTE(e_f @ Aug 19 2008, 07:17 PM) [snapback]497487[/snapback]
Thank you NewTon. I eventually found your answer.

I take it there is no mention of a minimum purchase.

I'm told that details of the share issue is easily available. Only to someone with the detective skills of Sherlock Holmes.

I asked a reasonble question for a very good reason, which will become apparent in the next few days hopefully, concerning what seems to be a serious problem with the club. I don't spend half my life reading this board so I'm not familair with everything that goes on. Looking at the nonsense that followed my question, it's easy to see why it's not alwas worth reading.

If NewTon is of a certain age, as MJ alludes to, why act so childish? His answer could have easily been posted right away and, furthermore, not hidden away among crap on another thread.

I don't have personal agendas, as many on here seem to have - all I want is what we all should want. The best for our club.

You are to be congratulated for that!

Incidentally, what was the question and answer?

Please don't misjudge Newt-he's been trying to get answers about the share issue for endless weeks from folk who would undoubtedly claim to have the club's best interests at heart!

Newt made an offer to the Club worth some £20,000 in the not too distant past. He was treated in an utterly shabby fashion.

How many of his regular detractors have put their money where their mouths are?
mortonjag 2008-08-19 20:37:50
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Aug 19 2008, 07:45 PM) [snapback]497496[/snapback]
Half a hunner? wink.gif

laugh.gif

Plenty of sexually able fifty year olds around Mrs T!
mortonjag 2008-08-19 20:40:44
QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 19 2008, 07:01 PM) [snapback]497481[/snapback]
This thread is my worst mustard experience. sad.gif

Not the hottest one has to say!
mortonjag 2008-08-19 20:44:07
QUOTE(leyTON @ Aug 19 2008, 08:23 PM) [snapback]497510[/snapback]
im struggling
theres some id happily toss overboard

You must be an accomplished swimmer.
mortonjag 2008-08-19 21:02:06
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 19 2008, 08:38 PM) [snapback]497522[/snapback]
You don't do public transport, do you? tongue.gif

Is that a serious question-the Monkey and Fing are very choosy! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 21:05:16
QUOTE(e_f @ Aug 19 2008, 08:57 PM) [snapback]497540[/snapback]
http://www.greenockmorton.org/forum/index....st&p=497080

It was originally posted as a new thread last night but the Mods, in their wisdom, merged it in this thread.

By the way, MJ, I've sent a PM.

thumbup2.gif smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 21:07:27
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 19 2008, 08:51 PM) [snapback]497535[/snapback]
Mind it's not your usual Vicars and Tarts party, this one is the...
Nip and Tuck Party.
Where the hell did I leave ma coat blush.gif

I heard it was the Snip and F*ck party.
mortonjag 2008-08-19 21:10:09 Mortonjag would cram as many good souls in as possible on the strict understanding that they assisted him in holding several heads under the water. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 21:12:02
QUOTE(stuart @ Aug 19 2008, 08:44 PM) [snapback]497530[/snapback]
Oral Rehydration fluid when you get in from a night out. Drink one sachet mixed with water then and one in the morning should you require it (which you probably won't) - it's a miracle cure.

Diaralyte is the stuff. It is embarrassing through because the people in the shop think you have diahhrea when you buy it.

Are you sure they don't think you're an alky? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 21:14:40
QUOTE(Benny Boy @ Aug 19 2008, 09:10 PM) [snapback]497552[/snapback]
From John Riddle's own website: "Andy was in the team that rose from the bottom of the old second division to the top of the Scottish Premier League."

Er, no he wasn't. Oh dear.

It also says he has written a book on "Lou McCari" laugh.gif Now even I know that's not how you spell his name.

Llama curry (lamb achari)-effin brilliant!
mortonjag 2008-08-19 21:31:37
QUOTE(midTONs @ Aug 19 2008, 09:17 PM) [snapback]497560[/snapback]
midTONs hopes thats mortonjags boat is not to far behind WeegieTons boat. wink.gif

laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 21:53:45
QUOTE(jpmil @ Aug 19 2008, 09:38 PM) [snapback]497569[/snapback]
I've got an excuse....I didn't know about the EGM as I didn't receive any notice of such.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 21:55:55
QUOTE(Lord Morton @ Aug 19 2008, 09:44 PM) [snapback]497572[/snapback]
Great to see Wake keeping the scoring up with another peach on Saturday. I'll be the first to admit I really did think his heroic antics at the end of last season would be followed up by complete disappointment as the goals dried up - but i've been proven wrong and hopefully it continues.

Wakey has been a revelation. He was utter keech at first, but the big man has proved Mortonjag wrong.

That is of course an achievement in its own right! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 21:58:30
QUOTE(stuart @ Aug 19 2008, 09:46 PM) [snapback]497575[/snapback]
Quite sure, yes. They just think I have a bad case of the runs. Not sure it is too well known as a hangover cure.

Don't underestimate those chemists-Dr Bam will confirm that they are bright chaps!
mortonjag 2008-08-19 22:00:27
QUOTE(princessTON @ Aug 19 2008, 09:47 PM) [snapback]497576[/snapback]
i wouldnt save anyone, so then the messageboard would be all mine cool.gif

laugh.gif

You'd need some camera equipment to make full use of it.
mortonjag 2008-08-19 22:02:33
QUOTE(capitanus @ Aug 19 2008, 09:54 PM) [snapback]497581[/snapback]
The Digger is the wee weekly magazine with all the court stocks from the Glasgow area, and a outlet to out allsorts of Scumbags under the sun.

A fantastic read, covers the stories that biscuit-a[b]rsed reporters like Norman Sylvester at the Sunday Mail would be too scared to touch.[/b]

Then I shall take the Big Mod's comment as a compliment! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-19 22:41:25
QUOTE(Deego @ Aug 19 2008, 10:34 PM) [snapback]497605[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVED
mortonjag 2008-08-19 22:45:11
QUOTE(Deego @ Aug 19 2008, 10:42 PM) [snapback]497613[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDTommy Sheridan's ugly brother?
mortonjag 2008-08-19 22:56:04
QUOTE(capitanus @ Aug 19 2008, 10:12 PM) [snapback]497593[/snapback]
I honestly think that the general consensus of views on the Morton Unofficial messageboards is the best barometer of opinion that we have amongst the support, and has been since the late 1990s.

Take from that what you will.

I agree, but would also point to enthusiasm or otherwise as manifested by attendances at Cappielow, the atmosphere in the Shed, and the level of complaints about/exhortations to the fans emanating from 'The Club'.

It seems obvious that those who are most strongly interested in the Ton will attempt to access the unofficial massage board at least from time to time.

It seems equally obvious that those who disagree with the body of opinion on the forum will attempt to discredit it, thereby aligning themselves with Sn. Rae and his 'rag' comment.
mortonjag 2008-08-19 22:57:36
QUOTE(Deego @ Aug 19 2008, 10:51 PM) [snapback]497617[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDAndy M!!!!!!!
mortonjag 2008-08-19 23:01:28
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 19 2008, 10:56 PM) [snapback]497620[/snapback]
All very valid points, but I disagree entirely that the group of people here is a representative sample of the Morton support.

I've already set out the groups of people who I think post on here. That's not to say that the points made on here aren't valid or that they aren't genuine and widely held views.

My point is that it's not safe to assume that the posters on here always have the groundswell of opinion behind them - no matter how much they may think so.

This is, after all, a rather militant forum - even by football messageboard standards. What % of the regular attendees at Cappielow are regular posters? Not that high, I think, given that the same names dominate most of the topics here. Do those few represent everyone?

Really-in what respect is it militant?
mortonjag 2008-08-20 07:10:14
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Aug 19 2008, 11:23 PM) [snapback]497635[/snapback]
Maybe we can get the opinion of a statistician. But if I remember my basics any poll taken of supporters would have to be a random sample. This message board would not be considered a random sample of Morton supporters, far from it. There is also, even if it was truly random, a margin of error of plus or minus 4% at a 95 percent level of confidence.

Not only must the sample be truly random, the questions must not be slanted etc. but the person asking the questions and in this instance is also posing the answers must be neutral. Those are the things that will be manipulated if someone wants to skew a result.

Bottom line, any poll or personal opinion stated on this message board is just that....it doesn't necessarily represent the opinion of every Morton fan. It may indeed be a barometer but it's probably as accurate as sticking your finger in the air to work out which way the wind is blowing and whether it will rain tomorrow.

WHY NOT Measles? unsure.gif

Are the posters press ganged into joining. Do they get p.m.s from the Mods telling them what to think. The forum's as random and representative as you'll get, and in any case statistics are usually complete bollocks!!!

Have a look at the TREND! Crowds up 100% on third Division levels-Cowshed noise up 100% on third Division levels-Newspaper coverage up 100% on third Division levels-Mr Rae's expressions of pleasure up 100% on third Division levels-NOW that's different-forget this putrid little rag and look at the trend Measles. We sure are advancing! dry.gif

QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Aug 20 2008, 12:13 AM) [snapback]497649[/snapback]
I'm very surprised you don't hear many comments on the performance of the directors. I hear plenty of (normally well informed and intelligent) conversations and opinions about how the club is being run, youth policies etc. as well as management, tactics etc.

As I said earlier, in my experience this message board does not quite reflect the level of dissatisfaction amongst many of the fans I am in contact with. There seem to be a much smaller percentage on this board who voice that dissatisfaction, and there is a noticable reaction against those few who chose to air these views, almost as though they are being ganged up on at times. I find this surprising as it's almost the reverse of what I hear from the fans I mix with. I often find myself standing up for Morton and even the board, and I am certainly far from a Morton sycophant.

I think you're correct in saying we grew up in different times. I've watched some exciting Morton teams and players, achieving mixed success. McGraw, Ritchie, the Danes etc. but the team with McInnes and Lindberg also excited me. However one of the reasons I love Morton is our tradition of playing attacking football home and away, we have even demonstrated this in recent years although the quality hasn't always been great. The main thing for me is we strive for these standards, and I think plenty of fans would agree.

As I stated to Measles, DOT. it matters very little. If the massage board is not a true reflection of opinion-and incidentally I share your highlighted experience, so be it. It's still a pretty effective method of sharing opinions, and is, to all intents and purposes uncensored.

Are we about to be told also that the trend on our forum bears no resemblance to the general trend among fans. Two years ago mild criticism of the Chairman invariably catalysed a viperous diatribe with accusations of personal vendettas, jealousy, lack of respect, ungratefulness etc., etc, normally accompanied by several 'I can never thank Mr Rae enough' posts.

Even a year ago-despite a summer of non activity and claims that he would not be bullied into signing players, Mr Rae had still a staunch support on our pubic massage board-albeit more muted and less violent than previously.

I presume that few have failed to notice a significant change. Mr Rae is now berated and criticised day and daily with impunity. Nobody now stands up for him-he's become a laughing stock for many, and STILL he thinks he can plead to the fans.

His previously vociferous allies now adopt more subtle methods. They attempt to discredit the forum in general terms, while making pathetically futile efforts to muffle and ridicule legitimate questions-indeed, at least one of Mr Rae's own employees was recently guilty of that on a grand scale, in the long running Alistair Donald thread- behaviour which leaves one wondering if 'the Club' has even attempted to influence the owner of this web site! unsure.gif


Mr Rae will not change-that's for sure, and he's made it pretty obvious by his behaviour that he sees the fans as his chattels. It's sad, in my opinion, that we still have a few posters who clearly think he's the best thing since sliced bread. The sheep are always with us I guess.
mortonjag 2008-08-20 07:24:42
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 19 2008, 11:10 PM) [snapback]497630[/snapback]
DOT's post was a well constructed argument. I've commented on it.

I refer you to Davie McArthur's! smile.gif

Sorry for digressing from the topic.

McArthur has not posted on this thread. Was it something about cannibalistic rodents?
mortonjag 2008-08-20 07:30:08
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Aug 20 2008, 02:43 AM) [snapback]497668[/snapback]
Pah! F'ck the lot of you! dry.gif

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mortonjag 2008-08-20 07:37:31
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 20 2008, 12:07 AM) [snapback]497647[/snapback]
If I get into a state where I will get a hangover I can guarantee that not only remembering the sachet and water will become impossible but so will actually operating either!

Rehydration sachets are a total waste of money for a hangover. They are designed to replace essential electrolytes lost in chronic diarrhoea. Alcohol causes dehydration by promoting increased flow through the kidneys, and essential electrolytes are spared.

Prevention is ALWAYS better than cure, and it's based on water and early intervention. As you suggest, most folk are too intoxicated to be bothered/ remember/care, but drinking plenty-and I MEAN plenty of ordinary tap water immediately after a binge will go a long way towards preventing a hangover.
mortonjag 2008-08-20 07:43:13 There is only one correct way to spell the gayest word in the dictionary.


POUFFE
mortonjag 2008-08-20 07:46:02 Enjoy! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-20 08:05:13
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 20 2008, 07:52 AM) [snapback]497688[/snapback]
These threads by Big Blue Eyes are really, really funny because you can tell that even though everyone knows she’s not real there are some who desperately want “her” to be a woman. I’ll bet “her” profile got a battering last night and I mean that in the proper sense, it’s not some pervy euphemism.

That said, not half as funny as the post that said we’d see a huge difference in Morton from last Saturday. No we won’t, we’ll see exactly the same tactics, exactly the same effort levels from the players and exactly the same outcome.

.....from the same blue eyed girls?
mortonjag 2008-08-20 08:09:18
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 20 2008, 08:06 AM) [snapback]497692[/snapback]
Ok people, only one day for plugging left.

I got the admission cost wrong and it's £4.00 in. We're on at 10.30. So get along and see the band The List has as one of the best 50 Scottish bands of all time.

No problem Mr Rae! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-20 08:12:44
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 18 2008, 11:59 PM) [snapback]497152[/snapback]
Gidday Bryan,

another month has passed.

any news ?

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Bryan-are you in hiding?
mortonjag 2008-08-20 08:22:48
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 20 2008, 08:16 AM) [snapback]497697[/snapback]
laugh.gif

Forgot to add, I'm planning on speaking to the audience for half an hour before we start playing.

Good evening ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to what I am certain will prove to be a stirring evening's entertainment. Tonight we welcome our old rivals from across the county Stoat Eat Stoat, who are managed by my worthy and lifelong friend and fellow musical Director.......erm ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-20 08:27:26
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 20 2008, 08:18 AM) [snapback]497698[/snapback]
See ma spelling was never that great, I keep think of a thing you put your feet on when you spell it that way.

If only the bouncy fireman had realised that Sean-indeed you may stand on-nay-JUMP on POUFFES to your heart's content!
mortonjag 2008-08-20 08:42:01
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Aug 20 2008, 08:30 AM) [snapback]497701[/snapback]
I just don't think we have the players capable of playing a 3-5-2. To play this formation you need very fit players who are comfortable in defence and going forward. Our current wide men don't quite seem to know how to play this position yet.

I was hospitality on Saturday and asked Collins at the Q&A if 3 at the back was the management choice or due to the current playing staff. He admitted it was difficult to get full backs in which suggests a preference for 4 at the back.

Did he mention why? I've always thought Derek Collins would be the very man who would spot the deficiencies of the current 'wing backs'.
mortonjag 2008-08-20 09:36:06
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Aug 20 2008, 09:32 AM) [snapback]497716[/snapback]
laugh.gif Not really, 'she' drives a Peugeot, bit too common...............

Mortonjag drives a Saab-old man's motor-thing is it's not-well not Mortonjag's!

I wonder what Pug she drives, if indeed she exists!

Tonsilitis drives a Pug-I've seen his motor and it's anything but common!
mortonjag 2008-08-20 10:29:47
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 20 2008, 10:23 AM) [snapback]497731[/snapback]
Davie McArthur drives a Peugeot, a 407 to be precise and Mrs Davie McArthur also drives a Peugeot. That's fighting talk young Genitals. mad.gif

'Wee baws'!
mortonjag 2008-08-20 10:34:53
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Aug 20 2008, 09:55 AM) [snapback]497725[/snapback]
FFS, sounds like the Forth Road Bridge scenario there mate laugh.gif

NOPE!
mortonjag 2008-08-20 11:06:07
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Aug 20 2008, 10:41 AM) [snapback]497740[/snapback]
Rail bridge?? blush.gif

laugh.gif

The original expression was-'It's like painting the Forth Bridge', and was coined long before a road bridge existed! I've noticed that almost everybody now says 'road bridge'-you are not alone Weegie! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-20 11:08:44
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 20 2008, 10:50 AM) [snapback]497746[/snapback]
I blame the immigrants.

That's a first.
mortonjag 2008-08-20 11:13:07
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 20 2008, 11:05 AM) [snapback]497749[/snapback]
Again, no major disagreements with the above.

I completely accept that just because I don't hear many conversations about DDFR doesn't mean they don't happen.

Neither would I argue that their aren't a number of supporters (perhaps significant, perhaps not) who are dissatisfied with the way the club is run.

I don't accept, though, that the posters on this forum are a reliable method of assessing the general opinion. The posters here are often heavily opinionated, motivated enough to express that opinion and have easy access to PCs.

It's not a safe assumption, though, that everyone shares those qualities(!) or that the most frequently expressed opinions here (where a few posters dominate most proceedings) are those felt through the entire support.

Spokesmen for "right-minded people" should always be treated with suspicion.

All 'spokesmen' should be treated with caution-I agree with you.

Why don't you run a poll of our posters?

It will surely indicate something!
mortonjag 2008-08-20 11:16:19
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 20 2008, 11:07 AM) [snapback]497752[/snapback]
This is the problem with a small squad you struggle unless you get flexibility which means sometimes you have to "rob Peter to pay Paul " ours is the attacking side of our midfield area . Obviously the coaches are aware of this problem area which would suggest that they are powerless in changing things at the moment .

Do you think that will be the statistically accurate view of Morton supporters in general, or just your view as current spokesman on the thread? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-20 11:34:27
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 20 2008, 11:17 AM) [snapback]497761[/snapback]
It would indicate the opinions of the posters here who bothered posting - nothing more! tongue.gif

I think you may have been correct all along. There is no shadow of doubt that the majority of fans has total confidence in the current incumbent at Cappielow.
mortonjag 2008-08-20 11:57:41
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 20 2008, 11:23 AM) [snapback]497767[/snapback]
It's his opinion, which he is perfectly entitled to, and he has not purported to represent it as anything else.

Unlike some! wink.gif

OH REALLY! Maybe somebody just mentioned it and he was parroting!

He did use the words 'would suggest'-suggest to whom-himself, his cat, the majority of Morton supporters? unsure.gif

You assumed it to be his opinion. I would have assumed the same.

Why, then, did you go to inordinate lengths to deliberately twist my statement, simply because I omitted to specifically define my opinion as such?

I though Jag bashing was a dying sport! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-20 12:10:39
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 20 2008, 11:49 AM) [snapback]497773[/snapback]
I think you'll find that I never suggested this to be the case - I only queried your claim to have the support of the majority. You may or may not be right, but to present it as fact when it was only your opinion.......



You interpreted my statement to suit yourself.

Only when you include 'IMO' in every single statement of your own opinion, will you be entitled to occupy your ivory tower.

There IS no shadow of doubt that the majority of posters on this thread saw no need to question my statement of opinion. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-20 12:22:51
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 20 2008, 12:09 PM) [snapback]497782[/snapback]
Oh, get over yourself!

You made a claim which you couldn't back up, then went to "inordinate lengths" to avoid having to retract it.

Then you suggested that I made statements that I hadn't.

And then you suggest I twisted YOUR statements! laugh.gif

And as for "Jag Bashing" - rather ego-centric wouldn't you say?

But you're right - sport is sport after all. happy.gif

....and you too Sir, have just 'made a claim'. Nowhere do I see any indication that that claim is merely your opinion of what I intended, when according to you, 'I made a claim'.

Nowhere did you say anything to the effect of 'MJ-you appear to have made a claim, though it may just be opinion'. You CHOSE to spin things your way-FACT.

Your final comment is ridiculous as you well know-Jag bashing is one of the commonest sports on this wee massage board. That, by the way, is a FACT too! laugh.gif

mortonjag 2008-08-20 12:25:50
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Aug 20 2008, 12:01 PM) [snapback]497777[/snapback]
I bet they are. You probably have quite a few things that other girls don't have....like a set of baws... rolleyes.gif

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I'm sure 'a pair of testicles' would have gone down better!
mortonjag 2008-08-20 12:32:50
QUOTE(Julie-Anne @ Aug 20 2008, 11:36 AM) [snapback]497771[/snapback]
Hi Folks,

My car's warranty is up on 12th September....I have an appointment with Arnold to get my car MOT'd on this date. However I am confused blink.gif

Should I get my car in for a service before this date so that if anything is needing done it will be covered by the soon to expire warranty? This sounds like a good idea because I could do without the shock of having a huge bill after my MOT which wont be covered by warranty!

OR-Can I get my car MOT'd before the warranty expires and this problem would be solved?!

rolleyes.gif Typical wummin eh? rolleyes.gif

Julz
x

Make an appointment for an MOT with a reliable independent local garage. If they find any 'fail' problems which would come under warranty, you can still get Sir Arnold to fix them, and then go back for a pass. It'll cost you a wee bit extra, but Clark will just rip you off if he can.
mortonjag 2008-08-20 12:37:30
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Aug 20 2008, 12:16 PM) [snapback]497785[/snapback]
What has really begun to surprise me in recent months is how immune we all seem to be to this type of stuff now. It's not acceptable, and it's time to take back the streets. There's a well documented Irish case of Whacker Humphries - who formed the Concerned Parents Action group in Inner Dublin and took the fight to the dealers with the backing of the (now not silent) majority of decent people - at which point the criminals complained about his activities and he was locked up !!!!! As Christy Moore sang in the song of the same name,

"I was sitting in the gallery with families, friends and wives
I strained to hear who told the truth and who was telling lies,
Dealers, junkies and police on the prosecution side
I swear to God that's what I saw before me very eyes

Whacker Humphries took the dealers on and fought them tooth and nail
Then a dozen well armed soldiers took him to the Portlaoise jail
Tried to protect his children, found guilty of a crime,
One man gets a pension, while anothers doing time"

We need direct action to rid the communities of this type of anti-social activity - and that is not aimed at Scotland or Greenock alone, it needs to happen anywhere we have become acclimatised to knifings, murders, beatings and robberies of the weak and innocent as somehow "just the way it is".

The majority of people ARE decent. The majority of people DO want a safe community.

But it ain't going to be delivered in the absence of the community policing itself in a pro-active way. In my opinion.

Thoughts ?

TonInDublin

A great idea in theory-could it really work in the current PC conscious Social Worker infested society.

I still believe birching would soon stop the problem.
mortonjag 2008-08-20 12:50:06
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 20 2008, 12:39 PM) [snapback]497792[/snapback]
Here'e what you claimed; "There is absolutely no shadow of doubt that the majority of fans now feel we are stagnating under the Raes."

Ta-Dah!

And as for "Jag-Bashing" - you reap what you sow! biggrin.gif

(and I have a horrible feeling that'll come back and haunt me! laugh.gif )

laugh.gif laugh.gif

That was what I opined. There are countless similar statements of opinion made on the massage board every day, which are accepted as such without the need for specific qualification to that effect.

You appear to be claiming that I was making a 'claim' when that is not correct, and you appear to be so doing with faltering conviction! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-20 13:04:04
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 20 2008, 12:42 PM) [snapback]497797[/snapback]
"There is absolutely no shadow of doubt that the majority of fans now feel we are stagnating under the Raes."

"statement of opinion"?

only those who could be bothered posting posted though laugh.gif

There was NO mention of posters Trumpton. Do you think this massage board is my only source? Last night I had yet another p.m. from a disenchanted poster, who felt messed about when attempting to purchase shares.

There IS absolutely no shadow of doubt that the majority of fans now feel we are stagnating under the Raes.

Where do you imagine the shadow of doubt might be with reference to that sentence-up a gum tree-under the kitchen sink, in Mortonjag's mind?

Ad nauseam perhaps-YOU interpreted that to suit yourself! dry.gif

There is absolutely no shadow of doubt *(in my mind) that you are being obtuse!



* inserted for the benefit of the obtuse.
mortonjag 2008-08-20 13:09:37
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 20 2008, 12:50 PM) [snapback]497804[/snapback]
As a matter of interest, does anybody know how Jamie's getting on?

I've been looking at the player ratings in the papers (for what they're worth) and he seems to be getting 6s & 7s.

Right leg first I'd suggest. The left is for standing on.
mortonjag 2008-08-20 13:15:35
QUOTE(Julie-Anne @ Aug 20 2008, 12:40 PM) [snapback]497793[/snapback]
You mean do this before my warranty expires?

Yes-there's no reason why an independent mechanic couldn't pass the MOT and issue a certificate even if he also found defects which need repaired under warranty but didn't affect road worthiness. Your new MOT certificate can be issued before the old one expires. It is totally independent of any warranty.
mortonjag 2008-08-20 13:30:36 All is explained Trumpton-you simply canny read plain English. Here IS what I said-copied and pasted, and please DO go back and check!!!




There is absolutely no shadow of doubt that the majority of fans now feel we are stagnating under the Raes.



This post has been edited by mortonjag: Yesterday, 07:57 AM
mortonjag 2008-08-20 13:33:52
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 20 2008, 01:23 PM) [snapback]497832[/snapback]
Possibly.

You think an extended run in the centre would have produced better performances?

He was definitely mucked about, but I wonder if he has the personality to succeed at this level - his head seems (to me) to go down if things don't go his way early on.

Definitely and without a shadow of doubt?
mortonjag 2008-08-20 13:39:43
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Aug 20 2008, 01:33 PM) [snapback]497839[/snapback]
Not necessarily true. Investors who save/fund clubs are not all hardcore. For example Tom Farmer certainly is not a hardcore Hibs fan, but if it wasn't for him or investors/stakeholders like him Hibs would be under/struggling badly.

Investors who save/fund clubs are such a rarity as to be statistically insignificant for the purpose of this discussion.


IMO

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mortonjag 2008-08-20 13:42:40
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Aug 20 2008, 01:34 PM) [snapback]497841[/snapback]
Of course it would, and it seems yet another case of a player coming to Morton and being wasted. Jamie had a big reputation as an attacking midfielder at Alloa, and indeed Mallorca by all accounts, yet comes to Cappielow and instantly becomes a right mid. I'm sure it makes perfect sense to somewhere, but I'll be buggered if I'll ever comprehend that one. Likewise, Andy McLaren, Scotland international winger, comes to Morton and does serious damage at first, and then....suddenly becomes a centre-forward. Too many players seem to get shunted about at Cappielow, I wish we would start just signing players for positions, rather than just signing whoever is about and flinging them in anywhere.

I agree, and JM's legacy lives on in the shape of Superkev and Jimbo.
mortonjag 2008-08-20 13:55:01
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 20 2008, 01:50 PM) [snapback]497858[/snapback]
So, how many more shareholders did not receive the required notice ?

Why was the meeting so rushed ?

As the issue is open for 5 years, why choose a date when directors, major shareholders or their representatives had prior engagements ?

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The unanswered questions continue to pile up.

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Why don't you e-mail the club Newt?
mortonjag 2008-08-20 14:00:40
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 20 2008, 01:46 PM) [snapback]497854[/snapback]
A tautology, sir.

Try to do better.

sad.gif sad.gif


You read it out of context Newt!!!
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Aug 20 2008, 01:50 PM) [snapback]497856[/snapback]
Not at all. Is our very own much taunted new director/potential owner not a Rangers man! Likewise, I openly admit I maybe wrong here though....was our owner John Wilson not also a Rangers man.

There are many guardian angels in football who do not have the same hands on approach and dedication as Mr Rae.

The debate is about what the majority of fans think, and whether or not this forum is representative of them. In that respect one offs like those you describe are irrelevant to the discussion.
mortonjag 2008-08-20 14:05:11
QUOTE(Muz @ Aug 20 2008, 01:51 PM) [snapback]497859[/snapback]
Agreed.

Jamie Stevenson has baws the size of a moose anytime I've seen him play for Morton. No heart, no fight, and THAT'S why he's away back to Alloa.

Plenty of skill-no baws. He also came across as one of these players that think they are better than they are- plenty of them about.

JEEEEEZUZ-no wonder he could never finish a game!

mortonjag 2008-08-20 14:10:46
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Aug 20 2008, 02:01 PM) [snapback]497864[/snapback]
We all need to ask the right questions of Mr Rae at the next fan's forum, and ensure we are not sidestepped, I think. You ask in public, get a response that answers that question, it makes things clearer for everyone. Something I am not sure people get reading the minutes from the last few Q&A sessions. I'm going to e-mail the Greenock Telegraph letters ed summing up most of the points from that earlier post before I head to Hampden tonight.

Toby, I should say that I've only disagreed with you on a few things, remember that. I'll probably agree with you on far more things than we have disagreed on in future! Its not a given that I'm going to take exception to everything you say. smile.gif I agreed that McInally should have left for example, just not the way you went about forcing your opinions on him.

I also apologised for saying you looked miserable in Prague, check it out, even admitting I have a dour face at the best of times! Also for saying that it looked like supporting Morton/Scotland ate you alive. You were annoyed about missing one Morton game in a near decade long period for a trip to see Scotland and said you were going to miss a friend's wedding for a pre-season friendly match. I said that given the important things in life, friends etc, it was maybe a bit extreme and missing a few games, was worth the sacrifice. I didn't lay into you. I was entitled to disagree and the guy I stand with at the games, as much of a diehard as me, passionate, can miss the odd game too. I respected your views at the time despite giving an opposing view. Instead of moaning about how we've disagreed on certain things, I ask you respect mine, even if you don't necessarily agree.

Rae will never answer a question unless he wants to.

Power to your elbow with the Tilly. I take it you'll be making it clear that the fans have loads of unanswered questions. Not trying to steal any of your thunder, but I'd like to know what the score is with Alistair Donald.
mortonjag 2008-08-20 14:15:47
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 20 2008, 02:10 PM) [snapback]497871[/snapback]
For someone who isn't even real, she's got your number MJ. laugh.gif
God, you really, really want her (him) to be real don't you? wub.gif

Very funny McArthur-I'm not going to be offended by a child.
mortonjag 2008-08-20 17:11:46
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 20 2008, 02:37 PM) [snapback]497899[/snapback]
For what? You dissed my wheels man. That kind of talk could get a man killed in the hood I live in.
Is it her, sorry "her" or me that's the child? If I wasn't so convinced that you were Douglas Rae I'd have you down as "Zoe".
Mortonbug and "Zoe" sitting in a tree...... wub.gif You'd be a sucker for on-line dating (not that I have any experience there). Getting all blushy when a fat, smelly Portugese bloke convinces you he's a 17 year-old beach volleyball playing chick.

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mortonjag 2008-08-20 17:17:42
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 20 2008, 03:11 PM) [snapback]497919[/snapback]
"Definitely and without a shadow of doubt?"

imho biggrin.gif

getting to you MJ?
edited cos I mis-quoted blush.gif

'Twas a little-suffering fools gladly has never been my forte! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-20 17:35:32
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Aug 20 2008, 02:13 PM) [snapback]497875[/snapback]
I cant be bothered reading this all... probably way off topic by now anyway.. but to me it seems clear how to proceed.

the fans need a spokeman who can deliver questions/concerns to the board about any club related subject

There is no point in asking questions for them to be ignored.

QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Aug 20 2008, 02:32 PM) [snapback]497893[/snapback]
GMST anyone?

Nope-the Trust has freely admitted it has no clout at Board level-a bit like a footballer admitting he's got no feet.

QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Aug 20 2008, 02:33 PM) [snapback]497895[/snapback]
I want to be succinct so the editor doesn't take bits out MJ, I'll cut out my usual padding before I send! Watch the letters page the next few days I hope!

I'm crossing my fingers. I'm afraid they may 'phone Cappielow for permission to print it, and be told everybody's 'out of the country'.



QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Aug 20 2008, 02:54 PM) [snapback]497909[/snapback]
Good post. I'm pretty sure I wrote similar on the thread about the Irn-Bru promotion when some folk were complaining about it for some reason. Morton are doing bugger all to enamour themselves to existing fans, never mind new ones

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QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 20 2008, 03:09 PM) [snapback]497917[/snapback]
You're floundering, Sir!

Changing the colour and font size doesn't make your claim more right or wrong than the first time you made it.

I HAVE checked, and I've faithfully copied & pasted your comments. You can be abolutely certain that you are quoted correctly in my previous posts.

And that statement was the basis of my question - How do you know what the majority of fans feel?

You still have no basis for that statement other than your off-the-cuff assessment of posts on a messageboard!

And off we go again. rolleyes.gif

You have edited my post it would appear. That is VERY naughty.
mortonjag 2008-08-20 17:45:39
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 20 2008, 02:50 PM) [snapback]497905[/snapback]
You're stalking me? unsure.gif

You're after my body? wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif

Boozehound has not been chosen as mortonjag's POUFFE of the month for nothing-his passion for leather is surpassed only by the thickness of his tadger. Do you really want it Dr Bam-can you handle it-this is serious stuff we're talking!
mortonjag 2008-08-20 18:04:03
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Aug 20 2008, 01:46 PM) [snapback]497855[/snapback]
I'd hardly call people anoraks for that. You know something bad has happened when the police chopper is out. Costs a lot of money every time they put the thing up there, taxpayers money!

Indeed, the Chief Constable's late for his dinner.

QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Aug 20 2008, 02:54 PM) [snapback]497908[/snapback]
All these professions are doing the job they are paid to do, but they also fight to do as little as possible for as much cash as they can......doctors for example have seen salary increases of huge proportions due to there strong bargaining.

Not how I see things at all.

QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 20 2008, 03:40 PM) [snapback]497939[/snapback]
Statisitcs show that nationally at least you're wrong, 'non-sexual crimes of violence' have fallen slightly from a peak of 16,000 in 2002/3 to 14,000 in 2006/7.

http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Publications/2008/03/06120248/7

You meant 'statistics have been produced which appear to show'-anyway-what is it to you sitting safe and smug in your country mansion?



QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 20 2008, 04:32 PM) [snapback]497964[/snapback]
I love the way your argument is so eloquently put. laugh.gif

Watch it-Mortonjag is chief patroniser-fing may soon be off on a European tour if you don't clip your lip.
mortonjag 2008-08-20 18:10:54
QUOTE(Russells Muscles @ Aug 20 2008, 04:41 PM) [snapback]497968[/snapback]
MortonJag wink.gif

Cappielow insiders are not welcome on this forum-you were warned before-now F*CK OFF before the Mods identify you.
mortonjag 2008-08-20 18:25:24 ..sorry-CHATEAU.
mortonjag 2008-08-20 18:31:24
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 20 2008, 06:27 PM) [snapback]498013[/snapback]
Cet homme Charmant has saved me a lot of time I see.

I blame Airdrie United. rolleyes.gif

First time I've ever been grateful to Trois Maisons'Chateau et deux maisons'. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-20 18:37:05
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 20 2008, 05:17 PM) [snapback]497980[/snapback]
Hey, you got off lightly. I accused MJ of being Douglas Rae and laughed at Mortonbug for his love of a ficticious "girl". And it's Mr. McArthur to you young man.

............and it's Dr MJ to you McArthur!
mortonjag 2008-08-20 18:49:09
QUOTE(big blue eyes @ Aug 20 2008, 06:46 PM) [snapback]498024[/snapback]
I didn't mean to be rude-I've had three separate personal messages and I don't want to send out the wrong signals by replying. It WAS very sweet of you.
I might be a child to you Grandad but to real men I'm all the woman I'll ever be.

You seem quite full of yourself!
mortonjag 2008-08-20 18:52:38 Early days yet-it may prove to be 'a' class and nae knickers' like the last one.
mortonjag 2008-08-20 19:02:27
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 20 2008, 06:53 PM) [snapback]498033[/snapback]
No, we definitely have more people behind bars than ever before.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/6968268.stm

Indeed, alcohol is the scourge of the nation, and a major cause of crime.
mortonjag 2008-08-20 19:14:51
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Aug 20 2008, 07:05 PM) [snapback]498046[/snapback]
Or two 25 year olds. wub.gif

Never really fancied threesomes-well not with girls.
mortonjag 2008-08-20 19:17:17
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Aug 20 2008, 07:08 PM) [snapback]498048[/snapback]
Pooves. rolleyes.gif

They are gay asses. I suspect Donkey Dave to be a



POOVE
mortonjag 2008-08-20 19:25:17
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Aug 20 2008, 07:03 PM) [snapback]498043[/snapback]
Alert! Incoming

SPANK THE PINK LITTLE BOTTIES!

TAN THEIR HIDES


QUOTE(midTONs @ Aug 20 2008, 07:13 PM) [snapback]498051[/snapback]
Ive been consistent and 100% serious with my views on the birch, it should be used as a deterrent to young offenders.

BIRCH THE B*STARDS


QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 20 2008, 07:16 PM) [snapback]498055[/snapback]
So you're going to be soft on knife offenders aged 22 and over?
How many lives have to be lost before this 100% effective deterrent mechanism is extended to each and every knife wielding mania. mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
You sir, are nothing less than a lentil-eater and your Guardianista views have led this once great and proud country into the abyss. mad.gif mad.gif
We need tough people to make tough decisions if we're to "reclaim our streets" - birch people for breathing I tells ya, BIRCH THEM GOOD!

FLOG THE F*CKERS
mortonjag 2008-08-20 20:15:33
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Aug 20 2008, 07:32 PM) [snapback]498073[/snapback]
must admit i'm a bit 2 sided when it comes to the police... my head tells me they are stretched to the limits and beyond, but my heart tells me they just dont put the effort required in, and could do more to change the beurocracy and red tape etc that they say, stops them doing the job more effectively, they have a 15minute response time to a call you place to them.. i.e they should call you back within 15minutes of you making a call to inform you when an officer will arrive if they havent already arrived ?? or so i'km told (by the policeman who couldnt help me.. cause of the rights of the neds !)

Birch the polis too-birch EVERYBODY!
mortonjag 2008-08-20 20:19:56
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Aug 20 2008, 07:52 PM) [snapback]498087[/snapback]
Jon Newby.

IS A POUFFE?
mortonjag 2008-08-20 20:24:26
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 18 2008, 07:57 PM) [snapback]496994[/snapback]
I will be keeping the appointment.



It it tonight you're getting your hole?
mortonjag 2008-08-20 20:27:20
QUOTE(piehutt @ Aug 20 2008, 07:47 PM) [snapback]498083[/snapback]
Sorry you've just lost all credibility as a sensible car owner by letting slip that your car is named after an old lady.

Elizabeth Piehole-so that's your mother's name Prof!
mortonjag 2008-08-20 20:40:37
QUOTE(big blue eyes @ Aug 20 2008, 08:35 PM) [snapback]498116[/snapback]
You are quite vile. All you ever seem to talk about is your beloved poofs. Takes one to know one they say-you're probably crawling with HIV and stuff. dry.gif

I'll have you know I have three children of my own, INCLUDING a daughter with a Masters in your beloved psychology AND from a proper University. That's if you're not some hairy arsed sicko wanking off at the keyboard. Spurtle's been posted missing for ages come to think of it! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-20 21:01:21
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 20 2008, 08:49 PM) [snapback]498121[/snapback]
Still a week away, so a bit of time to limber up blush.gif

Oh dear, just thinking about it there has caused me to get rather over excited, back in two mins.

smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-20 21:06:38
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 20 2008, 08:21 PM) [snapback]498104[/snapback]
So 26 have voted for 'Looks good but needs more content' and only the above poster has actually suggested something that ain't on it with MidTONs confirming what he's looking for in a virtual tour.

How do the fans expect GMFC to deliver a website that satisfies folk when they can't even be constructive in their criticism happy.gif

I didn't vote!

I'd like to see regular contributions from all the back room boys from the Groundsman right down to the Chairman.
mortonjag 2008-08-20 21:09:20
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 20 2008, 08:59 PM) [snapback]498128[/snapback]
You do know that talking to yourself is a sign of madness Dr Mortonjag, Douglas, Zoe or whatever your name really is.

Thank you Mr McArthur! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-20 21:22:49
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 20 2008, 09:16 PM) [snapback]498139[/snapback]
It's quite simple, just click the cursor beside your selection and then hit the Vote button blink.gif

Do you think opinions on this rag are in any way representative of true Morton fans?
mortonjag 2008-08-20 21:26:24
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 20 2008, 09:16 PM) [snapback]498140[/snapback]
Don't know about a newspaper but if I was to be named after a shop it would be 'What Every Woman Wants'. blush.gif

They went bust years ago! laugh.gif

I'd say you are the TES!
mortonjag 2008-08-20 21:42:36
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 20 2008, 09:24 PM) [snapback]498147[/snapback]
No - I have taken extracts from it and used them in context to remind you of what you actually wrote (you seem to forget sometimes!). That's an acceptable tool to most people - it saves having to read your posts twice - once is more than enough!.

IMHO of course.

laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-20 21:45:07
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 20 2008, 09:33 PM) [snapback]498151[/snapback]
"true Morton fans" blink.gif

Come on MJ, stop twisting words - you're better than that!

Sorry dear-should that have been 'REAL' Morton fans?

QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 20 2008, 09:35 PM) [snapback]498153[/snapback]
laugh.gif
I read the reference to that on the other thread in work and was PMSL but couldn't post.

smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-20 21:52:43
QUOTE(Tractorton @ Aug 20 2008, 09:26 PM) [snapback]498149[/snapback]
That time of year again.

Switched to More Than, with the best offer as you do. Admiral renewal quoted more than last year, but noted the small print, which said you had to call and confirm you were not renewing to ensure they do not debit your account. Bearing in mind they wrongly took additional monies from my account last year after they wrongly accused me of lying on my application, I was wary and rang the call centre:

AD: Can I take your peronal details?
ME: Blah, Blah, Blah
AD: Why are you not renewing?
ME: Guess?
AD: Price?
ME: Got it one!
AD: How much have you been quoted?
ME: Why do you want to know?
AD: Perhaps we could match it.
ME: Match it! Your sales pitch needs work. You should be offering to beat it. Anyhow, I have already paid new insurance.
AD: How much did you pay?
ME: Why do you want know (again)!? You upped my premium even though the car is one year older, me and the wife are a year older etc, etc, etc.

AD: Can you give me a contact number?
ME: Why do you want that?
AD: To keep our records up to date and in case we need to contact you.
ME: My policy runs out in a couple of days, I'm not giving it to you.

AD: Can you please return your renewal quote signed and marked rejected.
ME: Why do you want that?
AD: We need to shred it for legal reasons.
ME: I haven't kept it. I threw it away as I wasn't renewing.
AD: Oh dear. You will need to write to us confirming you're not renewing.
ME: I'm not writing to you, it's the reason I'm calling!
AD: You can email us.
ME: Why? You said you were going to shred it!
AD: We have to see it shredded.
ME: Tough. All I want to know is that you're not going to debit my account....again!
AD: I've put a halt on the system.
ME: Can I take your name or reference number in case I need to call back?
AD: My name is Claire.
ME: Claire what?
AD: Sorry I cannot give anymore details.
ME: So if i have a problem, I have to phone Admiral and just ask for Claire?
AD: Yes.

If you're exhausted reading this, imagine what the phone call was like.

Rant over!

They are all the same!

I've been with MORE TH>N for two years. I got a much better quote from esure, but thought MORE TH>N would try to keep my business. After going round in endless circles I eventually got a semi-intelligent woman who explained that the most they will ever reduce their renewal premium by is £40-which was way short of esure!! Why not say that in the first place! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-20 21:58:03
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 20 2008, 09:49 PM) [snapback]498158[/snapback]
The secret of happiness is to be comfortable in your own company. tongue.gif

Try prozac.
mortonjag 2008-08-20 21:59:21
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 20 2008, 09:50 PM) [snapback]498159[/snapback]
I'd live with "the majority of Morton Fans"
happy.gif

I prefer Glasgow.
mortonjag 2008-08-20 22:02:38
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 20 2008, 10:00 PM) [snapback]498168[/snapback]
feel free to stay there then tongue.gif

I do-it's very convenient for home and away games, though I doubt if the majority of Ton fans would agree! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-20 22:06:34
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Aug 20 2008, 09:56 PM) [snapback]498164[/snapback]
Listen Shipman (your just as arrogant) get off your high an mighty horse for a moment. Not everybody is taking sides in this discussion. It appears that if you don't agree with your point of view then we must be in agreement with DDFR and we are all hell bent in defending him. Is it possible that there are people on this message board of independent mind who neither agree with you or see DDFR as some sort of ogre. I'll defend DDFR for all his faults because without him I would be kicking my heels every Saturday afternoon.
Doesn't mean to say I agree with everything he does and says or the way the club is being run, but until somebody better comes along and buys the club then were stuck with him. Better the devil you know.

Isn't that him calling you for 'walkies'. Off you trot Measles-there's a good boy! rip.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-20 22:10:48
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 20 2008, 09:59 PM) [snapback]498166[/snapback]
laugh.gif

The Monkey is tired and I have been summoned to bed!

See if you can get little Measles involved in a good heated discussion-he's foaming at the mouth already!

Goodnight. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-21 07:23:26
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 20 2008, 10:20 PM) [snapback]498177[/snapback]
Hmm.

Much as I agree with a lot of what you wrote, perhaps he found the term "Shipman" a little offensive?

cut him, does he not bleed? laugh.gif

blush.gif

Why should I be offended by a jar of meat paste, Trumpton?

Measles offends me because he typifies a dying breed on our wee massage board.

It's finally penetrated the thick skulls of even the die hard sycophants that it's not the done thing to openly support our Chairman any more. They now adopt the 'Measles' technique which always has this rough shape.

1/ Firstly let me make it clear that I don't approve of EVERYTHING that Mr. Rae does. That's the clever bit-or so they think-imagining they will thus gain credibility for open mindedness-don't be fooled! wink.gif


2/ I will defend Mr Rae to the bitter end against criticism from others because, irrespective of his faults (never specified, mind!!!) he saved the Club from extinction. angel.gif

3/ Better the devil you know! rolleyes.gif



Those people clearly RESENT ALL criticism of Fr Rae. Their numbers are tiny compared to the cacophony who railed at mortonjag and a few others a couple of years ago. How is this explained?

I have my own theories, which include the possibility that some are Rae 'plants' on our forum.

Before anyone accuses me of fantasy or paranoia, the contribution to the Alistair Donald thread of my old friend Mabawsa (one of Mr Rae's employees) is there for all to see, and ranks with time honoured productions like the 'Beano'!

Donkey Dave openly hoofs the party line in defence of his master, even though he's perhaps a less viperous ass than the aforesaid.

There are probably several more!

Hugh's Cot was MUCH more clumsy in his attempts to muffle legitimate debate and criticism.

I wonder who Measles really is! dry.gif



mortonjag 2008-08-21 07:41:13
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 21 2008, 01:27 AM) [snapback]498221[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

How would they know how many shareholders did not receive the notice of the EGM ?

Was jpmil the exception or the rule ?

Would I better off asking the Royal Mail ?

Since the Trust cannot get answers from Cappielow or Mr Donald, why would I be more successful ?

huh.gif



Perhaps the Trust does know all the answers Newt. Perhaps Mr Donald replied to their mysterious letter by return of post, and they are just getting round to reading it. I'm sure they had the wit to send it 'Recorded delivery'.

There again:


Alistair Anderson Donald,
Purported Director-Morton F.C.
Out of the Country


would present problems for the most fastidious postie.


Somebody knows the answers.

I wonder who he could be! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-21 07:48:30
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 21 2008, 07:42 AM) [snapback]498237[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

Why would Sugar Rae care about debate or criticism, legitimate or otherwise ?

Cappielow has been his bailiwick for 7 years and will continue to be so for the forseeable future.



A good question Newt, and possibly one for our many putative forum psychologists.

In animal terms I'd describe it as a 'leader of the pack' response to eager young males. Challenges of any kind-real or imagined- must be countered vigorously in order to preserve total power. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-21 07:57:22
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 21 2008, 12:17 AM) [snapback]498208[/snapback]
Lies, damned lies and statistics. Come back to the West Central Scotland CHC and witness for yourself. Society's been on a downward spiral for some time now.
Edit to add: Please allow me to contradict myself regarding my distrust of statistics. There's a set recently published that 'proves' Scotland to be the most violent country in the civilised western world. Being an empiricist at heart, I'm inclined to believe it.

It would be easy to produce statistics to 'prove' that statistics are quite unreliable.

Our little 'Deux maisons et un Chateau' may disagree.

He often disagrees!

I have statistics to prove that.
mortonjag 2008-08-21 08:01:43
QUOTE(marx @ Aug 21 2008, 02:04 AM) [snapback]498223[/snapback]
Dingus keep your rumours to yourself please. Claire indeed split with her second husband Brian after a 2 year marriage however she didn't hit the bottle and that accusation is slanderous my friend. One or two (or six) glasses of red a day doesn't make her an alcoholic.

Just for your info she has made up with Brian after the split as both found that their casual sex with others is hollow compared to what they had.
I urge you to hold respect for Claire in future.



Claire is well known as a gin sodden trollop who's got that old Admiral in a sexual half Nelson.
mortonjag 2008-08-21 08:15:38 OYEZ, OYEZ


TONIGHT 'NOTE' CAFE BAR KING STREET GLASGOW



THE ONE AND ONLY




MOUSE EAT MOUSE




Please come early-admission's a paltry £4, and be sure to


BRING A FRIEND



Hopefully that will muffle McArthur!
mortonjag 2008-08-21 08:46:21 Scottish plain bread-two outsiders. Toast under grill till golden brown and slightly charred at edges. Plaster on Lurpak or similar, forcing into the body of the toast with tea knife.

That's toast.
mortonjag 2008-08-21 09:12:48
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 21 2008, 08:40 AM) [snapback]498245[/snapback]
My goodness - get out the wrong side of bed again?

I genuinely do take your point that we've moved on from the days of gratitude and relief, and you're right that we had to.

DDFR SHOULD be judged on where we are now, and where we're going next. The problem, I suspect, may be that there will be disagreement as to where we really want to go next.

Do we REALLY want to be an SPL club, or are we content to be a "near-miss" first division club. I think thats the real point of contention.

I wonder, too, if you give him a little too mcuh credit in the deviousness stakes, and yourself a little too much credit as a thorn in his side (or a pain in his arse smile.gif )

Do you really think that you rank so high up his agenda that he spends his time endeavouring to discredit you by such elaborate means?

You claimed that I got out of the wrong side of the bed, while agreeing with the points I made Trumpton. laugh.gif laugh.gif

With regard to the highlighted text, all I can suggest is that you 'wonder' on.

Perhaps Mr Rae is blissfully unaware of the behaviour of the Mabawsas and Donkey Daves of this world, though I have it on excellent authority that that is far from the case.

I doubt if he knows or cares much about individual posters, but there is NOT A SHADOW OF DOUBT IN MY MIND that he has taken steps to be made aware of 'what's being said', if not by whom.

I have gone to inordinate lengths to make that sentence as clear and unambiguous as I can, and have underlined the words 'In my mind'.

All of that was done just for you! wub.gif



mortonjag 2008-08-21 09:30:43
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 21 2008, 09:18 AM) [snapback]498258[/snapback]
Ok then, use this.

Alistair Donald
Accenture Hr Services Inc
Canon s Court 22 Victoria Street
Hamilton 12

smile.gif

laugh.gif

I have two more of the ubiquitous Mr Donald's addresses Puggs. He certainly seems to get around. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-21 09:36:04
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 21 2008, 08:49 AM) [snapback]498248[/snapback]
Why thank you Dr MJ.

smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-21 09:42:54
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 21 2008, 08:59 AM) [snapback]498251[/snapback]
Aye, never mind all that. Any updates on helicopters?

Where birching fails,


AMPUTATE THEIR CHOPPERS



ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-21 09:47:17
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Aug 21 2008, 07:03 AM) [snapback]498229[/snapback]
If you're only going to "take" a couple of minutes, mate, you'll probably want to go and get some viagara....quickly. wink.gif

Tricky boy-point of information!

Slight difference between a quick J.Arthur and a shagathon!
mortonjag 2008-08-21 10:19:38
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 21 2008, 09:52 AM) [snapback]498271[/snapback]
shucks blush.gif

just for the hell of it:

I said "get out the wrong side of bed again?"

because you said "Why should I be offended by a jar of meat paste, Trumpton?", "thick skulls of even the die hard sycophants", "muffle legitimate debate and criticism" and some other wee digs.

I, perhaps mistakenly, interpreted these as an indication of a little irritability.

My apologies for my error. biggrin.gif

You were mistaken Donald!
mortonjag 2008-08-21 10:22:51
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Aug 21 2008, 09:59 AM) [snapback]498273[/snapback]
B I R C H

T H E

J A G

You are a patient man-it's well seen you work with intricate wee coloured wires! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-21 10:30:30
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 21 2008, 10:21 AM) [snapback]498280[/snapback]
Had a dream last night that I was out with a bunch, and we were wondering were someone else was.

So in the dream I decide to text him to find out.

Woke up about 5 minutes later still in a bit of a daze so check my phone and realise that I actually did, while asleep, send the text to the person in question.

That just boggles my mind!!!!!

Anyone else ever done it?

I write almost all my pieces on this massage board while asleep. I leave the monkey to do all the editing.

I once knew a man who could serenade his wife with 'Amazing Grace' on his bagpipes while sound asleep and snoring loudly in unison.

I once took out a patients appendix while asleep.

I frequently drive to matches while asleep.

There must be hunners of things I've done while asleep.
mortonjag 2008-08-21 10:36:57
QUOTE(Russells Muscles @ Aug 21 2008, 10:30 AM) [snapback]498285[/snapback]
The mods know who I am - bet you wish you did! laugh.gif

I do know WHAT you are. You are the low life who published my private details obtained from Club data. The Mods claimed at the time that they could 'not pin you down', and deleted the posts.

That sort of behaviour deserves a lifetime ban. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-21 11:06:10
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 21 2008, 10:57 AM) [snapback]498299[/snapback]
Highest setting on our toaster (doesn't cremate the thing...just a ver nice golden)

As soon as it pops, grab the first slice and quickly put the toaster on again with the remainder bit.

Quickly butter the first one so it melts right away. Then get the other bit out - which will have remained hot as the toaster is still on - and do the same.

I never put mounds of butter on, just a light scrape does the trick.

Very wise-I bet you have a sylph like figure.
mortonjag 2008-08-21 11:29:55
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Aug 21 2008, 10:18 AM) [snapback]498278[/snapback]
sad.gif
If find myself in agreement with your mind Doc. ohmy.gif

laugh.gif

QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 21 2008, 11:10 AM) [snapback]498307[/snapback]
Again, my apologies Douglas!

My pleasure Donald.
mortonjag 2008-08-21 11:36:40
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 21 2008, 11:10 AM) [snapback]498308[/snapback]
LL, you didn't answer my question.

In the example I gave you yesterday of the two extremes of murder, would you really give the same 'life meaning life' punishment to the domestically abused wife as you would to the psychopathic nutjob?

She would probably have had enough already I'd imagine.

I agree with your comments about 'life meaning life'.

Hanging was a deterrent.
mortonjag 2008-08-21 11:40:39
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 21 2008, 11:38 AM) [snapback]498321[/snapback]
Pfft....thought it was quite a clever play on what you wrote, and you know it wink.gif

That's your problem!
mortonjag 2008-08-21 11:42:36
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 21 2008, 11:32 AM) [snapback]498318[/snapback]
Douglas ?

Donald ?

Duck ?

Dick ?



Has Donald ducked Douglas's dick?
mortonjag 2008-08-21 12:15:06
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 21 2008, 11:18 AM) [snapback]498311[/snapback]
I do....it's under the rest somewhere!

smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-21 12:16:49
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 21 2008, 11:20 AM) [snapback]498312[/snapback]
Maybe see you there tonight Dr MJ?

'Twas seriously contemplated Sir, but I gave in to 'pressure'! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-21 12:26:11
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Aug 21 2008, 12:11 PM) [snapback]498347[/snapback]
Nah, either Donga or Midtons pointed you out once. The jacket IS cool though.
I'm printing that off and putting it on business cards.

laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-21 12:34:22
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 21 2008, 11:46 AM) [snapback]498326[/snapback]
Or has he just flown the coop ?

blink.gif

I'd imagine he's more of a Sainsbury's wallah.
mortonjag 2008-08-21 12:47:31
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Aug 21 2008, 12:35 PM) [snapback]498358[/snapback]
Look Shipman, I rest my case, there you go again

"Those people clearly RESENT ALL criticism of Fr Rae. Their numbers are tiny compared to the cacophony who railed at mortonjag and a few others a couple of years ago. How is this explained"

I don't resent all criticism of DDFR...It's just your warped mind at work once more..its your "if your not for me your against me" attitude that's all wrong.
You'll be offering all us so called sycophants the easy way out next. Your friendly doctors jab in the arse to cure our ills.
Yes, the the parallels between you and the good Dr Shipman draw closer by the post. In fact did you not at one time post that you knew where all the bodies were buried, or words to that effect.

My friend did not have to hide the bodies, Measles,-he certified their deaths! laugh.gif

Don't lose sleep over this-if I did have any designs on your body, I'm friendly with a couple of Vets.
mortonjag 2008-08-21 13:05:31
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Aug 21 2008, 12:50 PM) [snapback]498367[/snapback]
fecking far too many of the wrong people and i dont mean innocent.

another day, another "suspicious" death a stones throw away!

suspicious death in govanhill

there have been a few good points on this thread. One thing that is missing more than ever is any fear of punishment. I know many of the local hoodlums in the south side of glasgow and the repeat offenders are getting away with it more often than not. This would come back to your point of the incorrect criminals behind bars....

Im all for getting tougher on repeat offenders, particuarly of violence. Similar to the 3 strike rule.
as an example...

1st offence, a street fight - a fine
2nd offence assault and breach - hefty fine and court order
3rd strike - for any violence, custodial sentance.. no question

if theres a deadly weapon involved - go straight to no 3.

To do this we would need to clear a few spaces in our prisons....

too many people doing time for unpaid fines and minor drugs convictions. clear space for the violent offenders.

Theres cases that i am aware of were people have committed 10 + offences, with a previous criminal record, including crimes with weapons ie. stanley knives and other knives. who are still walking around without getting a custodial sentance. Ultimately, they feel above the law. that needs to change.

I agree, and banging more and more of them up gets them off the streets-sure- but it costs a fortune and when they get back out they certainly ain't reformed!

I know it sounds barbaric, but it's not nearly as uncivilised as the scenario you've just described-where thugs rule, SO


BIRCH THEM. Simple, cheap, and let me assure you it will make them think twice before re-offending!
mortonjag 2008-08-21 13:39:09
QUOTE(ShimminTon @ Aug 21 2008, 12:58 PM) [snapback]498375[/snapback]
I know jpmil wink.gif and he only became a shareholder this year. smile.gif

There's a big difference between knowledge and belief. smile.gif

That's correct.

There's also a huge difference often between belief and truth! dry.gif

I refer, of course, to the topic in hand!
mortonjag 2008-08-21 13:44:37
QUOTE(Bryan @ Aug 21 2008, 12:18 PM) [snapback]498353[/snapback]
i do have a life outwith the internet you know biggrin.gif

laugh.gif ...if not outwith the country!

Serious question Bryan. I accept in good faith that a letter was sent by the Trust asking Mr. Donald to give some idea of his plans for the future.

Do you KNOW that the said letter was received in person by Mr Donald, and if so, why do you think he is choosing to ignore the Trust?
mortonjag 2008-08-21 13:53:13
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Aug 21 2008, 01:40 PM) [snapback]498390[/snapback]
added to the above.. theres some excellent work going on in polnont with the young offenders, they have a fantasic youth team in there. ALthough it is ultimately going to cost us money.. there has to be funding available for more programs in prisons to combat re offending. Ive been lucky *or unlucky, enough to be involved in some of the work and reguarly use some of the products, ie films that are made by offenders for youth programs aimed at yung uns at risk of ending up there...

More long time funding for youth projects, particular emphisis on street teams and tackling territorialism.... its rediculous that most organisations are supposed to budget their resources on funding that is given for either 1 year or 3 year maximum projects. Some organisations fund program by program as they go along. street work has a great success and is work that is undervalued and underestimated.
Prison for violent reoffenders.
Programmes of support inside.

Please don't be offended WiG but it sounds like you have a vested interest in rehabilitation. Well power to your elbow. Not all young offenders are evil psychos-indeed those MOST likely to benefit from rehab would probably only need ONE stroke of said birch!

What do you think?
mortonjag 2008-08-21 14:20:15
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Aug 21 2008, 02:11 PM) [snapback]498409[/snapback]
Gee, MJ, I didn't know that at all. Would never have guessed that.... rolleyes.gif

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Oh well let's give Willy Man the benefit of the doubt. If he should need Viagra, he knows where to come! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-21 16:32:55
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 21 2008, 02:45 PM) [snapback]498436[/snapback]
Ron Number probably is mortonjag.

Aye right Ronnie boy. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-21 16:49:37 It's a shame that we've got good guys on here arguing with each other about something which ultimately is academic.

Here's how I see it.

Fan hands money to turnstyle operator whom he perceives as part of the club.

Mr Rae puts said operator at the turnstyle to collect money for the club.

If the money is pocketed the culprit is guilty of deception of both parties and I'd suggest of misappropriation of the Club's funds.

I believe that's how a court would see it.

Either way it's up to the club to institute a system whereby it gains the maximum income possible from spectators at home matches.


mortonjag 2008-08-21 16:55:56
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Aug 21 2008, 02:22 PM) [snapback]498420[/snapback]
quickly

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mortonjag 2008-08-21 16:58:51
QUOTE(leyTON @ Aug 21 2008, 02:19 PM) [snapback]498415[/snapback]
iv revised it
MJ you are now the FT
as in everyone saying FT mortonjag
its too sunny for my coat...

POUFFE
POUFFE
POUFFE
mortonjag 2008-08-21 17:01:59
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 21 2008, 04:00 PM) [snapback]498475[/snapback]
From whom sir?

From her--she who must be allowed to believe she is obeyed! We apparently have a prior engagement though I wish they weren't coming! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-21 17:05:45
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Aug 21 2008, 04:22 PM) [snapback]498480[/snapback]
But again, who can possibly have the right to decide who lives and who doesn't?

Politicians? Aye, right. Me? You? The same judges who currently hand out 2 week sentences and the like?

No-one has the power to hold the life of another person in their hands, no-one.

Tell that to a surgeon! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-21 17:47:36
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Aug 21 2008, 04:25 PM) [snapback]498481[/snapback]
Mortonjag, send Ron Number a message and ask him to log in at the same time as you. These guys are insinuating that a man of your intellect and gravitas is adopting aliases on a silly wee internet messageboard! That can't be true can it? Prove them wrong yeah? rolleyes.gif

Edit: Not sure Mortonjag would be silly enough to make atliberty (sic) one word, my apologies MJ!

Mortonjag is guilty of many naughty things, but would never stoop to assuming an identity for the sole purpose of attempting to discredit/ridicule another poster's legitimate contributions to the forum. Mortonjag has mentioned this to the Moderators.
mortonjag 2008-08-21 17:57:04
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Aug 21 2008, 05:10 PM) [snapback]498501[/snapback]
In that case they should bring back the wee guy who used to sell Mars Bars, chewing gum and cup drinks in the shed.

Agreed BH-there are countless ways in which the club could bring in more cash both on match days and otherwise!
mortonjag 2008-08-21 18:12:28
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 21 2008, 05:34 PM) [snapback]498509[/snapback]
I agree 100%, and after Miscarriages of Justice it's probably the most compelling argument against Capital Punishment.

I think you've got the wrong end of the stick though. This 'life meaning life' discussion is about anyone being sentenced to life imprisonment staying in prison for life and never being released on parole and is nowt to do with Capital punishment.

At least that's how I've understood it. huh.gif

If we can elect our government by popular vote, why don't we have more referenda on issues of crime and punishment.

I believe that would be the fairest way for the people to respond to secular change and the effectiveness of current policy. Politicians are SUPPOSED to represent us, but no sooner are they elected than they adopt whichever policy will best feather their own nests.

Crime and punishment has in many instances become a total joke, and more effective deterrence is constantly hampered by weak kneed wimps who identify with criminal rather than victim.
mortonjag 2008-08-21 18:28:57
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Aug 21 2008, 06:24 PM) [snapback]498529[/snapback]
What a tool!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

That is one of your more intelligent comments Anus.

I take it you are one of those said insiders. To quote-'They don't like getting it up them'.
mortonjag 2008-08-21 18:37:29
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Aug 21 2008, 06:22 PM) [snapback]498528[/snapback]
Why don't you e-mail the club and list them - if you can give them 99 I'm sure they'll be dead impressed like.

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Fantastic idea GG-why did I not think of that before-I'll get right on to it! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-21 18:40:13
QUOTE(Deego @ Aug 21 2008, 06:34 PM) [snapback]498532[/snapback]
Go away.

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mortonjag 2008-08-21 18:46:32 This thread is liable to stir up a lot of dual morality.

Northern Ireland regards that particular choon as its National Anthem.

Scots fans saw fit to boo.

I'd like to get rid of the monarchy, but I don't approve of booing any country's National Anthem at a 'friendly' football match.
mortonjag 2008-08-21 19:00:26
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 21 2008, 06:48 PM) [snapback]498540[/snapback]
How about Nazi Germany, 1938, in mythical hypothetical land?


I don't approve of fans booing any country's National Anthem at a 'friendly' football match.






[quote name='Barbarossa' date='Aug 21 2008, 06:50 PM' post='498541']
I agree but as I stated in the International Football forum many of their fans were disgusting last night.
Is this really the FA of a state who's supporters made a player quit or have the threat of death hang over his head.
f***ing insular, backward nutcases.

[/quote

That's the danger Barbie-arguing the general from the particular (tarring all with the same brush).

We can't possibly dictate political policy to every country we play in a football match. Are we going to boycott the next world cup just because there are two or three 'naughty' nations involved?

I don't really care too much about last night, and I'm no Royalist-I just think booing any country's National Anthem at a 'friendly' match is somewhat unfriendly! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-21 19:22:16
QUOTE(Doc @ Aug 21 2008, 06:51 PM) [snapback]498542[/snapback]
Morton has always been, and continue to be, a community club. Your attitude would have allowed Scott to close us down. What did you say then? "It's the clubs problem!"???? Wake the hell up, man. The fans have always, and will always, have a vested interest in supporting and preserving the existence of Morton FC. We are not simply consumers when we show up on a saturday afternoon and hand over our cash. We are contributing to a legacy that has existed since 1874 and which our fathers, and their fathers before, have supported. Morton FC is not some Tescos or Asda to most fans, despite your opinions. Money leaking out the back-door IS a problem for the fans because we ARE part of the club. It's like arguing that a congregation isn't part of the church. You can view it how you want but many of us are prepared to go above and beyond handing over money and expecting to be entertained. Christ, if that's what you are after, your money would have been better used on renting a movie every cold, wet saturday afternoon when we were playing Brechin, Forfar etc.

The highlighted comments certainly indicate the ideal scenario.

In its current form, Greenock Morton is a 'divide and rule' autocracy.

What the fans can do, want to do, and even attempt to do for the good of the Club is ultimately governed by the Club.

It could and should be so different. It should be as you suggest.
mortonjag 2008-08-21 19:51:40 I'm hoping that Davie Irons has sussed Dundee out and deliberately picks the best side to deal with them, accepting our limitations.

I DO believe Jenkins should figure.
mortonjag 2008-08-21 20:21:43
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Aug 21 2008, 08:06 PM) [snapback]498568[/snapback]
totally agree

why oh why can they not respond to emails? I doubt they are inundated with them?

The Club has a history of not replying to e-mails which don't 'suit'

It's very sad.

The Trust openly admits great difficulty in obtaining information at Board level, while communications from ordinary fans are frequently ignored.

I don't really think that is behaviour which suggests that the fans are valued by the Club.
mortonjag 2008-08-21 20:30:51
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 21 2008, 07:14 PM) [snapback]498551[/snapback]
Indeed it is.
The issue is of "respecting" a national anthem, and frankly I feel Northern Ireland does not deserve that respect for that, not to mention the various sectarian ditties allegedly sung last night).
I wouldn't pish on them if they were on fire.

Perhaps it has something to do with my age and upbringing, but if there were to be a minutes silence (the correct method of respect IMO) at a football match in recognition of the passing of somebody I had utterly despised in life, I would still feel the need to be 'respectful'.
mortonjag 2008-08-21 20:40:55
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 21 2008, 08:34 PM) [snapback]498582[/snapback]
That's a bit different, although it would depend upon the level of dislike/hatred the person generated.

At times when 'respect' is appropriate, as in burying the dead, I believe that those who are unable to contribute should stay away.

Last night was supposed to be a 'friendly' match. The fact that many were apparently unable to respect the National Anthem of others is backward looking and small minded IMO.

As I said I will happily see the end of the Monarchy, but I'd certainly have stayed quiet last night.
mortonjag 2008-08-21 21:08:35
QUOTE(Bryan @ Aug 21 2008, 08:32 PM) [snapback]498580[/snapback]
yes i think he got it, we will endevor to get an answer

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mortonjag 2008-08-21 21:13:34
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Aug 21 2008, 08:56 PM) [snapback]498600[/snapback]
He didn't say they were hidden. mellow.gif

keep up old man !

I did not state that he did!

Next!
mortonjag 2008-08-21 21:25:31
QUOTE(Bryan @ Aug 21 2008, 08:29 PM) [snapback]498577[/snapback]
in what way unsure.gif

In that Jim McColl seems hopeless in getting any 'change' out of the Chairman, and as much as admitted it in a couple of his rare posts on this massage board.

I was discussing the Trust with my brother at the weekend. He was was quite heavily involved at the time of 'Save the Ton' and I was far too busy with work. Now it's more or less that in reverse.

When I mentioned Jim-he said-'Oh I remember, he was that wee quiet man who just kept turning up at meetings, and seemed a good idea to have on the Board'.

Can't you see how ludicrous the situation is Bryan? Jim McColl's a DIRECTOR. As of 1st July Alistair Donald's a DIRECTOR, yet the Trust is 'hoping' to get a reply to a letter it sent to AD almost two months ago which it's 'sure he received'!!

Does that not suggest a strange pecking order within the Boardroom? Jim McColl-the man appointed to KNOW about financial dealings FOR THE FANS' PROTECTION, can't lift a 'phone and ask a fellow director a simple question.


That at least is how I see it.




mortonjag 2008-08-21 21:38:56
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Aug 21 2008, 09:21 PM) [snapback]498616[/snapback]
Then why use the word hide ?

Because it was the appropriate verb in my sentence.

Next!
mortonjag 2008-08-21 22:05:09
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Aug 21 2008, 09:51 PM) [snapback]498631[/snapback]
Why ?

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mortonjag 2008-08-22 06:25:34
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Aug 21 2008, 10:40 PM) [snapback]498650[/snapback]
does he still post on here?

He is still at liberty to post here, but has only ever posted at a time when he and the Trust felt personally attacked. Stuart Duncan falls into exactly the same category. Those guys were protesting that they were 'loving the publicity' during the 'Keeping track of the money' thread, but the minute they felt secure they popped back into the cosy myopic cocoon which appears to be Trust Committee membership.

QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Aug 21 2008, 11:39 PM) [snapback]498666[/snapback]
Now there is a thing. Whatever did become of the letter that was apparently sent to Mr. Donald on behalf of the Trust? That was quite a while ago now I believe, and for a guy who has "Morton at heart" (or whatever badge-kissing soundbyte it was) and is a director not to even have the courtesy to acknowledge the letter is simply taking the piss.

IF he received the letter, the lack of response speaks volumes. One thing is absolutely clear to me. Mr Donald is developing a reputation for aloofness and unapproachability. Hopefully that reputation will prove inaccurate. We already have a Chairman whose similar behaviour is progressively bringing the club to its knees in respect of relations with the fans. Much more of that, and I believe something will 'have to give'.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 06:42:14
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 22 2008, 05:55 AM) [snapback]498703[/snapback]
With all the decades of metal fabrication expertise on the Clyde, surely a few of the older Ton supporters could knock up some turnstiles.

They are hardly as complicated as Oberon class submarines.

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The current turnstyles are antiquated. Any time we have a decent crowd, queuing is a nightmare, and an indictment of the system. The Club probably has only a rough estimate of how much money fails to pass from fans to club, but over the course of a year it would, I suspect, pay for the installation of new turnstyles. Perhaps Alibi, or some other is able to indicate a rough installation cost.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 06:54:18
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 22 2008, 06:03 AM) [snapback]498704[/snapback]
This one didnae fly the coop.
Bosnian police have impounded a pigeon after discovering prisoners used it to smuggle drugs into one of the country's highest security jails, an official says.

"The guards suspected the animal might be involved in drug smuggling once they noticed four prisoners visibly intoxicated shortly after the pigeon landed on a prison window," Zenica prison official Josip Pojavnik told AFP.

All four inmates had tested positive for heroin, said Pojavnik, adding disciplinary proceedings had been launched against the inmates.

The drugs, he added, had probably been stuffed into tiny bags attached to the legs of the carrier pigeon, which one of the prisoners had previously been allowed to keep as a pet in his cell.

"We suspect that the pigeon carried the drugs from Tuzla," a town around 70km northeast of Zenica in central Bosnia, he added.

The pigeon had been taken into custody by police, who have launched an investigation aimed at identifying those who had loaded it up with the drugs.

"We do not know what to do with the pigeon, but for the time being it will remain behind bars," Pojavnik said.

The incident had prompted the prison administration to consider closing down a prisoner pigeon-breeding project established in a ward of the jail as part of a rehabilitation program, he added.

Pojavnik insisted those birds had not been involved in the incident.

A similar case of carrier pigeons being used by prisoners was reportedly uncovered earlier this year at a jail in Brazil, where the birds were being used to deliver drugs and even mobile telephones.
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Back on topic you knotty boy-one of Mr Rae's stool pigeons appears recently to have flown this forum! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-22 07:01:45
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 22 2008, 06:46 AM) [snapback]498708[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

Are there not several distinct issues here ?

The Trust represents the members of the Trust.

The Trust holds about 5% of the shares in the Ton.

Mr Donald was reported as planning to invest in 10% or 20% of the Ton.

Golden Casket needs to maintain, is it 75.1% of the Ton for tax purposes ?

Is it fair to suggest that to Messrs Rae and Donald, the Trust could be a minor irrelevance ??

And I make that suggestion with no disrespect to anyone.

I think that they just have different agendas.



Mr Rae's agenda has always been evident. On the day he saw fit to save the club he was ego massaging, and nothing has changed.

Mr Donald has no need to do similar IMO. I believe he may see himself in a minor philanthropic role with regard to the Ton, should he get control of the club.

I believe that Mr.Rae's ongoing agenda is what has prevented that from happening for the time being. Mr Donald appeared upbeat in his interview with the Tilly in January, after which he simply 'disappeared'.

If he's currently lost interest in owning the club, why bother with a minor shareholder?
mortonjag 2008-08-22 07:16:09
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 22 2008, 07:00 AM) [snapback]498711[/snapback]
Mind you CR claimed it would cost several hundered thousand pound for new turnstyles so your cheaper operating like this anyway


over the course of a year
would, I suspect, pay for the installation of new turnstyles.
Whit ??

Are they gold plated ?

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The replacement could easily be phased-there is currently minimal queuing given the crowd sizes, and not all turnstyles need to be operated IMO, particularly as efficient new ones would speed transit. In the interim, games which were clearly going to attract big crowds could be 'all ticket'-the attendance would already be known and folk could easily be allowed entry through temporary aisles at the relevant exit gates.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 07:20:44
QUOTE(centralTON @ Aug 22 2008, 12:37 AM) [snapback]498682[/snapback]
Sh1t himself ? laugh.gif

Rusty pants?
mortonjag 2008-08-22 07:26:34
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Aug 21 2008, 11:22 PM) [snapback]498659[/snapback]
I dunno, it seems to be varying about a wee bit!!!

But aye, life sentence for murder should be compulsary, surely, unless there are extreme mitigating circumstances, e.g, the abused wife lashing out after one too many kickings.
And if we're going to have referendums on everything, there's not much point of politicians. Frankly, I wouldn't trust the general public to be in charge of anything of significance, half the country would probably run about with burning sticks and pitch-forks if the wrong person got voted out of Big Brother.

Your argument is self defeating EM. The general public IS in charge of selecting its government by popular ballot. That in itself is a referendum.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 07:34:28
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 22 2008, 01:58 AM) [snapback]498691[/snapback]
I have to say I really enjoyed tonight!!! Given the amount of time the members of MeM have been together and the complicated nature of our ouevre I'd say we were well ahead of plan. The album is 90% finished and it's gonna be classic!!!
Just settled down from the obvious buzz you get after a show.
If you ever get the chance to socialise with Frank CentralTon (and his good lady wife) then do so. He is a lovely guy, serious top bloke.
He also asked if our drummer was my brother!!! YES!!!!!!! He is actually my 21 year-old son!!!!! R-E-S-U-L-T-!!!!!!

Oh dear-McArthur confesses to under age sex.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 07:43:00
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 22 2008, 12:28 AM) [snapback]498679[/snapback]
Why aren't you a Scotland fan? Are you not Scottish? Don't you like football? Is it because too many caricatures turn up at the games wearing see-you-jimmy wigs and you cringe at the thought of being associated with them? Because you don't like Ronnie Brown or Mel Gibson? Because you think Doh a deer is a stupid song to sing while you watch your team getting humped?
I'm intrigued. I really am. I can understand why folk don't like the 'National' anthem though I wouldn't be bothered to boo at it myself. Strange it is how the same folk that want God to save the Queen also want to f*** the Pope. And vice versa. Maybe they all those types like their vice to be versa. I don't care much for flags or anthems myself. But I do love Scotland and football, that's why I'm a Scotland fan I suppose.



Is there no limit to the sexual precocity of some folk? Surely no self respecting Tim would want to hump wee Betty.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 07:51:41
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 21 2008, 09:16 PM) [snapback]498613[/snapback]
Not sure on this one so maybe MJ, only cos he's a quack laugh.gif can help out....

I thought Viagra was used to help guys that had a problem getting an erection not to make them last longer before ejaculating unsure.gif

Viagra is a wonder drug. It gives you a lovely big stiffy, but the pish stains near the top of the bathroom wall may have her wondering if it's really worth it.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 08:21:03
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Aug 22 2008, 07:56 AM) [snapback]498723[/snapback]
MJ...there was a time when folk would lick both sides of the stamp wink.gif

Indeed and it was a LONG time ago.

A wee story. I used to go to school by train. I'm talking about near enough fifty years ago. Wee Betty was due to travel through (not stop at) the station we used for school. They completely redecorated that ONE platform-hanging baskets-the lot, while leaving the rest of the place in its old state.

I remember as a young teenager thinking that was bizarre!
mortonjag 2008-08-22 08:27:00
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 22 2008, 08:12 AM) [snapback]498725[/snapback]
If your going down the road of public referenda for Government legistlation why restrict it to just crime and punishment? Would you not have liked to have had a referendum on whether or not we should have been involved in the invasion of Iraq and Afghanisan, for example? And whether or not Gordon Brown should have been appointed your Prime Minister, wouldn't you have liked to have had a say in that too instead of just the membership of one party?

The list is endless and therein lies the problem, it's a nice idea in theory but in practice it would be completely unworkable.


I think a referendum on capital punishment or birching would be completely workable.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 08:34:02
QUOTE(dazed @ Aug 22 2008, 08:26 AM) [snapback]498731[/snapback]
Fact- the Irish fans booed every player linked to Celtic as the teams were announced, fact -there was a lusty roar of no surrender during their national anthem ( and not by a minority either ) fact - they cheered every rangers player announced.
While I do not approve of booing National anthems I would not be apologising to them until they put their own house in order and cut out the very clear bigoted chants and comments in their ranks. bear in mind a player was threatened with his life if he did not stop playing for them and was booed by the so called fans of his country. If they are offended then tough , they offend us with their bigotry and hatred!

Perhaps the simplest solution would be to not paly anthems at all.



How the f*ck does a minority section of a football crowd indicate the general feelings of a democratic nation?

A national anthem was played. Booing was disrespectful to all the folk of that nation-not just 'them'! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-22 08:38:42 see!
mortonjag 2008-08-22 08:56:03
QUOTE(Alibi @ Aug 22 2008, 08:49 AM) [snapback]498739[/snapback]
One of the royals (not sure if it was the queen) came to Greenock to open the new hospital, and they fitted a new toilet seat to one of the toilets as it was judged that the royal 4rse was too good to touch a seat that anyone else might have sat on. After she had gone (don't know if she even used the toilet) the new seat was removed and the old one replaced. Illustrates the ridiculousness of the whole concept of monarchy.

I do hope there's no successor to the current throne.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 08:59:19
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 22 2008, 08:29 AM) [snapback]498733[/snapback]
For Britian to introduce either they'd have to leave the EU, so you'd have to have a referendum on that first.

So in other words, it aint going to happen any time soon and almost certainly never at all.

Get over it.

Is that the sort of comment you use when dealing with your little children?

Am I expected to respond with 'Grow up'? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-22 09:06:54
QUOTE(loyal lass @ Aug 22 2008, 09:01 AM) [snapback]498742[/snapback]
I witnessed the culprits with my own eyes(me and around 15 others) shouting that they would finish him off. Although I could never id the or it as I didn't have my glasses on. Read the post. The Police were too late. Read the post. There is no fear as there is no deterrent

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Don't give the little Viking an inch LL!
mortonjag 2008-08-22 09:10:25 Will some holy poster PLEASE speak to God about the weather?

Tell him to get the effin finger oot!
mortonjag 2008-08-22 10:16:07
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 22 2008, 09:49 AM) [snapback]498760[/snapback]
"Mr Rae's agenda has always been evident. "

As has yours MJ!

Come on - this is a thread about the appearance/ content of the new website.



Have I been naughty again?

What's the bloody web site about-communication between club and fans.

What is almost everybody asking-will there BE any more.

What's YOURS? blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-22 10:23:53
QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 22 2008, 10:16 AM) [snapback]498774[/snapback]
how about saving the AD talk for the 30 page thread about him, this is about the new website. smile.gif

Not like my little PT to want threads kept on topic-OK-here goes.

In my actual, personal, considered, and humble opinion, there is not a shadow of doubt that the new website will provide no better communication between Board and fans than that previous, and evidence to date confirms that that may prove to be correct.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 10:31:35
QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 22 2008, 10:27 AM) [snapback]498782[/snapback]
laugh.gif I know, but im bored of all that stuff, and im interested in the new website, and what i say goes Biatch!

Indeed, and do you find it interesting?
mortonjag 2008-08-22 10:37:36
QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 22 2008, 10:20 AM) [snapback]498775[/snapback]
For me it should be....



Cuthbert

Shimmin Greacen Harding
Finlayson Kenkins Paartalu Mcguffie Mcalister
Wake Russell


Kenkins will be kust fine-he'll do a kolly good kob I'd guess.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 10:52:36 What puzzles me is this.

The Poll Tax was introduced in 1989. Everybody who knew anything about local government finance predicted a disaster. What was Bawheid doing at the time-what was he thinking and saying?

In 1987 he was elected Member of Parliament for Banff and Buchan and later that year became Senior Vice Convener (Deputy Leader) of the SNP. He was at this time still viewed as being firmly on the left of the party and had become a key ally of Jim Sillars, who joined him in the British House of Commons when he won a by-election for the seat of Glasgow Govan in 1988.

Hmm!

Then of course there was the massive run down of the traditional heavy industries-Ravenscraig, for example, was just about to bite the dust!

What was he thinking and saying then?


Hmm!
mortonjag 2008-08-22 11:03:00
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 22 2008, 09:33 AM) [snapback]498751[/snapback]
The Note is a great venue when you're young!!!! Where we play is acually something we're seriously going to have to look at. Our audience is older for the most part and need things like baby-sitters so we're going to have to look at earlier shows.
blink.gif By my arithmetic 41-21=20. No doubt NewTon will on in a minute to correct my grammar but I can count a wee bit. And it's MR McArthur to you.

Now that you've finished your cosy wee chat with that clown, MR McArthur, I could have SWORN you are only thirty six!
mortonjag 2008-08-22 11:11:17
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 22 2008, 11:05 AM) [snapback]498813[/snapback]
Hey, Colin is no clown.
I was born in 1967. Do you think I'd spout the crap I do if I was only 36?

Pre senile dementia is indeed a sorry condition.

Colin is a Clown, Weegie is a W*nker, McArthur is a Muppet, and Mortonjag is the Messiah.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 11:15:31 Live roasted lug worm.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 11:17:31 I see Spurtle's out canvassing.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 11:23:39
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 22 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]498761[/snapback]
Absolutely 100% spot on Davie.

I doubt anything will happen though, seems like you can write just about anything on here these days and get away with it.



JUST ABOUT ANYTHING



there!

Calling somebody a pouffe-that's quite different.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 11:27:43
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 22 2008, 11:16 AM) [snapback]498822[/snapback]
Monkey.

ph34r.gif

Macerated Mouse Droppings.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 11:29:55
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 22 2008, 11:25 AM) [snapback]498825[/snapback]
Your obsession with homosexuality is almost out of control.

Almost as bad as my penchant for pouffes.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 11:36:48
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 22 2008, 11:12 AM) [snapback]498818[/snapback]
That's MR Muppet to you.

MR Muppet and Miss Piggy met at a gig. Miss Piggy thought he was wearing a wig.

'No' said MR Muppet, 'pull on my beard', and they lived happily ever after.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 11:43:44
QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 22 2008, 10:58 AM) [snapback]498804[/snapback]
i do, i'm very much impressed with it. it was never going to be the finished article within the first week of it being launched. I've been on the new site more this week than i was on the old one the whole time it was there.

Lot's of hard work must be acknowledged. When do you think the Chairman will make his first contribution?
mortonjag 2008-08-22 11:52:18
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Aug 22 2008, 11:41 AM) [snapback]498837[/snapback]
he will give us the weather he sees fit to ... he said youre to f*** off by the way !



I just managed to get hold of him-he's a hard man to contact-and he said Cowshed Warrior's getting sent down later today.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 11:55:09
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 22 2008, 10:49 AM) [snapback]498796[/snapback]
Who was it?
I have done plenty after pipe band competitions. Crash in Glasgow, wake up, semi redo the uniform to look decent and crawl for a train.

Remember one time two of us got a train to Paisley (first one there, he lived there so would just change there and get the next train home) still in uniform. Stepping off the train and two Irish boys from another band were getting on to go to Prestwick looking fresh as daisys.

Daisies.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 11:58:05
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Aug 22 2008, 11:55 AM) [snapback]498860[/snapback]
I was sent down yesterday !! ffs he never gies me a break !

He has a hellish sense of humour at times.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 12:00:22
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Aug 22 2008, 11:47 AM) [snapback]498844[/snapback]
Not really, because the idea of electing an MP is to select the person you feel is most able to stand up for your interests, a person who is most likely far more educated in these things than the vast majority of the general public.

One of the reasons I don't vote.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 12:05:38
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Aug 22 2008, 11:55 AM) [snapback]498859[/snapback]
ohmy.gif Shocking thing to say.
TY smile.gif
You forgot to take your pills today then MJ
wink.gif
You tell him laugh.gif

laugh.gif

You know me so well-it's been fixed now!


I went to see that 'Mouse Eat Mouse'
With coke and bar of Snickers
McArthur's jokes-they made me boak
and almost pish my knickers.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 12:08:52 Glitter's impact has been far reaching. I was refused entry to the baths yesterday 'cos the 'S' had fallen off my trunks.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 12:16:34
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Aug 22 2008, 12:04 PM) [snapback]498872[/snapback]
well he did create you !! wink.gif

He created Mr Rae first-then he perfected the technique.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 12:23:39
QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 22 2008, 11:50 AM) [snapback]498849[/snapback]
that would be an added bonus but he doesn't really need to, most teams websites don't have a section for their chairman to discuss things. As much as some people don't like Dougie or the things he says that was one of the good things about the old site.

I concur.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 12:25:29
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Aug 22 2008, 12:05 PM) [snapback]498875[/snapback]
I am not too bothered if Morton fiddle taxes a wee bit for the benefit of the club overall - however turnstile operators stealing cash for their own night out on the town is not on.

I heard it was to buy bags of Millions for their weans.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 12:34:26 How many calories in a banana

The calorie content of bananas are low to medium. Most of the calories in a banana come from carbohydrates, both naturally forming simple sugars and starch forms its carbohydrate content. Its interesting to note that the composition of carbohydrate calories change on ripening, the sugar levels rise and the starch levels fall as a banana ripens. It means that bananas are probably easier to digest the more ripe and yellow the fruit becomes.

The protein calories in a banana only make up about one percent of its total calorie content however this is much higher than the fat calories in the fruit which is less than one half percent.

There are many other fruits that have a calorie content lower than bananas. Take a look at our fruit calories page to compare them to banana calories.

The calories in a banana are digested slowly and help supply the body with a steady source of energy. Bananas are great for an energy boost if eaten about an hour before physical activity
mortonjag 2008-08-22 12:43:24
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 22 2008, 12:41 PM) [snapback]498913[/snapback]
daisys

Daisy's?
mortonjag 2008-08-22 12:47:29
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Aug 22 2008, 12:41 PM) [snapback]498912[/snapback]
Great on toast too.

You enjoy poosy on toast!
mortonjag 2008-08-22 12:49:13
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 22 2008, 12:46 PM) [snapback]498916[/snapback]
Are there still Fyffes Bananas ?

Or are they long gone ?

My grandfather's place in Roxburgh Street circa 1963 ... Fyffes on Hovis toast.

Brilliant.

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Indeed-Fyffes are the Monkey's favourite. He claims they've been benders for so long they have perfected the banana.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 16:59:02
QUOTE(suda @ Aug 22 2008, 04:45 PM) [snapback]499068[/snapback]
the site moderator should be able to confirm IP addresses to see if the jag is masquerading as a 19 year old girl!!

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I notice Big Blue Eyes hasn't called anybody a pouffe so far! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-22 17:09:03
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 22 2008, 01:05 PM) [snapback]498937[/snapback]
I don't see much wrong with that myself - then again, I'm not a Labour leadership candidate scraping the barrel to avoid electoral oblivion.
Nor am I Mortonjag. blush.gif

Nor will you EVER be Mortonjag sonny boy.

In this instance , Mortonjag merely asked a legitimate question. No attack, no spin.

Is that all right with you, you POUFFLET.?
mortonjag 2008-08-22 17:24:05 Susan and the Giant Banana


INTRODUCTION



Once upon a time there was a little girl called Susan. Susan lived with her Mummy and Daddy, in a little cottage in the woods.

She was a lovely little girl, and her neighbours always cheered up at the mere sight of her merrily playing in the garden with her pet puppy Horatio.

Susan was an obedient child who never told lies or swore, respected her elders, went to Church twice on a Sunday, and despised jokes about Garry Glitter................... but behind Susan's lovely little girl image there lurked a dark secret................................... laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-22 17:32:48 It's pretty obvious to me that no matter how much FTOF preaching we get on here, the W of Scotland bigotry dies hard deep within the minds of some apparently genuine Ton fans.


FACT--At a 'friendly' international football match, a large number of fans took it upon themselves to desecrate the National Anthem of the opposing country for reasons which had nothing to do with football or friendship.

The fact that some folk on this forum are defending that behaviour suggests that they are happy to use football as a platform for their own political or religious views. That sort of behaviour, I'd suggest is better left to the OF.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 17:39:01
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Aug 22 2008, 02:25 PM) [snapback]498976[/snapback]
Gary Glitter walks into a Post Office with The Pope and John Leslie...

Wrong topic. ph34r.gif

smile.gif

Why do cows have bells?

In case their horns get broken.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 17:41:52
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 22 2008, 04:57 PM) [snapback]499077[/snapback]
I think that would be the only time that something like this could be possibly considered edible!

that
mortonjag 2008-08-22 17:44:48
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 22 2008, 05:19 PM) [snapback]499095[/snapback]
laugh.gif
A loaded question from the Jag as ever.
I believe a mini pouffe would be a footstool or similar. blush.gif

Wrong again!

A mini pouffe would never exceed eleven inches.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 17:51:13 While in the store this morning this big c*nt kept staring at me.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 17:53:32
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 22 2008, 05:32 PM) [snapback]499107[/snapback]
This mans army aye? wink.gif

mad.gif

This man's 'Army' -Aye?
mortonjag 2008-08-22 17:57:45
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 22 2008, 05:46 PM) [snapback]499118[/snapback]
this

I'm attempting to help you. I didn't quite appreciate HOW bad the situation is. Feel free to ignore my little prompts! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-22 18:01:29
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 22 2008, 05:54 PM) [snapback]499121[/snapback]
Note you didn't issue a rebuttal about the loaded questioning...
Standards are indeed slipping, not least in furniture semantics.

The Monkey just read that.

His comment:

'Dad izzat thi we spahrit manne wiph hys bigge wirds agen'? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-22 18:16:18
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Aug 22 2008, 06:01 PM) [snapback]499126[/snapback]

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mortonjag 2008-08-22 18:19:08
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 22 2008, 06:05 PM) [snapback]499128[/snapback]
Disgraceful - the parent should be the first teacher of the child.

He is dyslexic.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 18:21:30
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 22 2008, 05:32 PM) [snapback]499105[/snapback]
I should really be informed about this and any pictures that may exist! smile.gif

that which
mortonjag 2008-08-22 18:25:55
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 22 2008, 06:16 PM) [snapback]499135[/snapback]
I boo'd, its got nowt to do with me being an OF bigot. Don't care what you think of me boo'ing but it had nowt to do with that
FACT we had bigotary brought to Hampdem by the NI fans with rants/chants/ and flags. You miss that out. The boo'ing had nowt to do with Bigotary, more to do with the Anthem(well for me, I suppose I cannot say for 25k others)
Your posts on this forum I would say are picked on and you pronouced a s*** stirrer etc, though I can see between the lines and get your points of view. But with blanketing those who boo'd with the same bigot blanket as those who sang the Anthem, shows you are are blinded to the reason behind the boo'ing as those who are on here to your posts.

Out of all people I thought you would have see past it all MJ, am shocked.

smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-22 18:28:46
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 22 2008, 06:26 PM) [snapback]499149[/snapback]
So he put the quotation marks around the sentence yet not the relevant question mark?
That's not dyslexia - that's just a basic structure error.
No award for you nor your monkey I'm afraid.

It was a combined effort. Please do not attempt to second guess the Monkey.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 18:36:28 Right-here's the question-does anybody still like a Garry Glitter choon when he hears one? I strongly suspect they have been banned from the popular media, but the guy made MUNNY out of stuff folk wanted to hear.

To put it differently, if you heard a nice choon and then discovered it had been Garry Glitter, would it suddenly become nasty?
mortonjag 2008-08-22 18:48:32
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 22 2008, 06:37 PM) [snapback]499157[/snapback]
It is indeed difficult to second guess either the monkey or yourself when you cannot even construct a simple sentence. blush.gif

youse!
mortonjag 2008-08-22 18:50:59
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 22 2008, 06:40 PM) [snapback]499161[/snapback]
happy.gif

laugh.gif

Feel free to teach me to count.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 18:56:53
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 22 2008, 05:42 PM) [snapback]499116[/snapback]
Let mj and NewTon have their fun lording it up over the common five-eighths with their hilarious aliases (aliiiii? unsure.gif)


Dictionary.com
a·li·as noun, plural -as·es, adverb
–noun
1. a false name used to conceal one's identity; an assumed name: The police files indicate that Big Blue Eyes is an alias for Mortonjag.
–adverb
2. at another time; in another place; in other circumstances; otherwise. “Newton alias Nach0king” means that Newton in other circumstances has called himself Nach0king.

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mortonjag 2008-08-22 19:00:04 I just don't see us getting much out of this. A draw would be fantastic, but I suspect it will be very tight with them snatching the goal they need. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-22 19:07:03
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Aug 22 2008, 06:53 PM) [snapback]499169[/snapback]
I can quite easily separate the man from the music.

One is reprehensible, the other has its attractions, although I'd suggest he will get no air play going forward.

And his actions don't deserve it to be honest. But on his day he was a great showman.
TonInDublin

OK-let's move it on.

IF-totally hypothetically- if the Glitter Band was to reform, and was getting 'rave' reviews, could anybody enjoy one of the gigs?
mortonjag 2008-08-22 19:13:14
QUOTE(forza ton @ Aug 22 2008, 07:10 PM) [snapback]499178[/snapback]
ach dry yer eyes ya miserable c***s!! i post on here all the time and know loads of the guys so i can have a wee gloat and a carry on if i like. anyway 336 post views laugh.gif

btw spains f***ing roasting and puuuure magic.

Hope yer baws frazzle.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 19:15:43
QUOTE(stuart @ Aug 22 2008, 07:12 PM) [snapback]499182[/snapback]
I've just went out and got hammered? ohmy.gif

Been electrocuted by a live nail?
mortonjag 2008-08-22 19:20:03
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 22 2008, 06:56 PM) [snapback]499171[/snapback]
I can't without a calculator. It's an accounting thing smile.gif

That genuinely saddens me. I frequently take five or six items to the till in-say- a filling station, and I've added up the price and worked out the change due before I hand them over. I used to think everybody could do that sort of thing, but it's getting rarer. It must be a dawdle to short change folk those days.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 19:29:53
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 22 2008, 06:40 PM) [snapback]499162[/snapback]
Nope

Check the calculator-Mortonjag's always right!



Neurotic's epitaph.


'I KNEW ALL ALONG'
mortonjag 2008-08-22 19:43:14
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Aug 22 2008, 07:17 PM) [snapback]499186[/snapback]
You making the assumption that Glitter is singing with them or not. They had hits on their own without him.

If he is singing, then no I don't think i could see past the person he has become knowing what he's done to kids.

If it was a celebration of music that is timeless by talented musicians who helped make it the first time round then yes.

TonInDublin

I feel much the same, though the music industry is littered with successful performers who are known to have varying degrees of 'perversion'.

Do you think that folk who COULD now enjoy watching Mr Glitter perform musically would, by definition, be perverted themselves?
mortonjag 2008-08-22 19:46:22
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 22 2008, 07:41 PM) [snapback]499198[/snapback]
Not right to compare the two.

Freedom of speech, says there is nowt wrong in boo'ing

Booing is NOT speaking-it's making loud animal noises.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 19:54:45 Compare the night before a match when we were leading the third division to tonight.

The forum used to be buzzing with predictions, enthusiasm, and talk about individual players-who would score etc. etc.

It's like an effin morgue on here those days.

Is it just because-quite simply- there's not much to get excited about? I'm looking forward to the trip to Dundee, and I'm hoping for good weather and a good result, but can't honestly say I'm 'buzzing'! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-22 20:02:27
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 22 2008, 07:52 PM) [snapback]499213[/snapback]
The Upper Voltan Boo Monkey.

laugh.gif

The Brainless Broomy Boo Baboon.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 20:05:17
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Aug 22 2008, 08:00 PM) [snapback]499221[/snapback]
If you think you know the answer or if you want to know the answer PM me. It just requires a little lateral thinking.

I'm laterally thinking you had a good laugh typing that with soapy water running down the back of your legs!

The monkey suggests it's the first guy to take aff his bunnet and have a swatch!
mortonjag 2008-08-22 20:13:14
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Aug 22 2008, 08:10 PM) [snapback]499233[/snapback]
I wasn't at the match, but if I was I might have bood, or I might not have, depending on which of my personalties I had at the time.

Don't let Puggs see that! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-22 20:15:44
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Aug 22 2008, 08:07 PM) [snapback]499230[/snapback]
Perhaps. But do you know the answer to the question, son ?

I'll get fing onto it!

Ha-I knew fing would know. Man one 'cos he's the only one who could see two hats of the same colour so his must be different!
mortonjag 2008-08-22 20:23:34
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Aug 22 2008, 08:20 PM) [snapback]499243[/snapback]
If there was no steps and they all stood level then 1 would not be able to see 3 as he wouldnt be able to see through 2.

Is fing correct!
mortonjag 2008-08-22 20:25:06
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Aug 22 2008, 08:23 PM) [snapback]499245[/snapback]
that's wrong son. Man 1 can see 2 and 3. 2 has a white hat and 3 has a black hat. Man 1 doesnt know what colour of hat he ( man 1 ) is wearing

Fing sez you didn't specify the hats were as per picture-back to the drawing board!

Fing sez man 2 steps back and can then see the two black hats!
mortonjag 2008-08-22 20:40:03
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Aug 22 2008, 08:25 PM) [snapback]499248[/snapback]
Naw

Is he right yet?


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mortonjag 2008-08-22 20:47:29
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Aug 22 2008, 08:42 PM) [snapback]499256[/snapback]
Dead easy actually. rolleyes.gif

Is fing correct-he's been promised a new bag of nails if he is!

I now have the answer!

Fing is right-he got the correct answer within the rules and his method's quicker than the published one. He's off for some shooting practice! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-22 20:54:57
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 22 2008, 08:05 PM) [snapback]499226[/snapback]
Or it could be some mad doctor is slowly sucking the life out of the board so a lot of people don't come on it nearly as often as they used to.

Never know eh? wink.gif

I'd imagine that's spot on! laugh.gif

QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 22 2008, 08:20 PM) [snapback]499242[/snapback]
Nah, can't be that........... rolleyes.gif shutup.gif ph34r.gif


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QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 22 2008, 08:38 PM) [snapback]499252[/snapback]
you start this thread every week laugh.gif

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QUOTE(midTONs @ Aug 22 2008, 08:42 PM) [snapback]499257[/snapback]
Tomorrow will see one of the worst away supports we have took to a Saturday league game in many a year.

I thought this forum wasn't a reflection of the general support-oh wait the mad doctor's got to them too! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-22 21:02:13
QUOTE(Bryan @ Aug 22 2008, 08:48 PM) [snapback]499266[/snapback]
hope he burns in hell

Why-has the devil stopped paying the gas bill?
mortonjag 2008-08-22 21:43:01
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 22 2008, 09:19 PM) [snapback]499290[/snapback]
Well in, Rain Man.

unsure.gif

You're NOT Newton!!!!!!!!! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-22 21:50:42
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Aug 22 2008, 09:06 PM) [snapback]499279[/snapback]
Ah the good Dr Shipman strikes again..your right as always, it is like a morgue in here and I'll give two guesses as to who has put us all in the morgue.
Keep it up and you might just achieve something *careful, or I'll close down the Internet* promised to do but failed to carry out. Maybe not the internet, even shug was delusional, but you may just kill of this website as a social network for Morton supporters. Shug would have been proud of you.

But then let's not forget, killing things off, that would be true to form for the good Dr Shipman.

Mr Rae would be my first guess Measles-run along now-he's just opened a big tin of Pedigree Chum!

QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 22 2008, 09:20 PM) [snapback]499291[/snapback]
There's an increasing sense of desperation to these threads, too. It's cringe-worthy, "are you up for it"-ism.

That's cringe worthy jealous angry little fat boy syndrome, Smeggy. I notice you never had the decency to apologise for your cringe worthy filth on the AD thread. You were SO wrong-weren't you! smile.gif smartass.gif thumbup2.gif bouncy.gif

QUOTE(Ghost @ Aug 22 2008, 09:24 PM) [snapback]499298[/snapback]
They can always take a friend ph34r.gif
Swing them lights

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mortonjag 2008-08-22 21:54:21
QUOTE(port-ton @ Aug 22 2008, 09:46 PM) [snapback]499316[/snapback]
Eeeeeeeeeeh that is rotten. Feet and Spiders are the only two things in the world im really scared of.

I have four pairs of shoes for sale!
mortonjag 2008-08-22 21:55:43
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 22 2008, 08:07 PM) [snapback]499231[/snapback]
Nope

'Nope'.
mortonjag 2008-08-22 22:04:01
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 22 2008, 09:22 PM) [snapback]499296[/snapback]
These are my thoughts on the matter, too.

That said the Irish who conducted themselves with dignity that day at Croke Park have my utmost respect.



I don't believe you know the meaning of respect, let alone 'utmost', Smegma.

I do believe you imagine you are much more important than your life station indicates, and resent those who are clearly superior to you.

Just my humble opinion, I hasten to add! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-22 22:18:43
QUOTE(Ghost @ Aug 22 2008, 09:26 PM) [snapback]499299[/snapback]
Jees, i must be tail of the bank when it comes to things like this. Just received it in an email from a pal in Jordan blink.gif . Bet that would go down well out there. I can remove it if you want, not a problem smile.gif

What always intrigues me about this sort of thing is the inevitable dual morality. If some folk knew the jokes doctors tell behind closed doors, their hair would undoubtedly stand on end, and they'd want them struck off just because they have different 'morality'!!!

AYE EFFIN RIGHT!

I'm talking about good, genuine, compassionate, caring, and competent physicians who in practice don't find in the slightest amusing the very things they ridicule in private.

Laughing at Glitter jokes does not condone paedophilia-it can be construed even as a way of coping with a fact of life which is in reality unpleasant-just as in my previous example.

Furthermore-like it or not-the man is, by any standards, sick.

So Gibby, Ghost, or Garry- I find the wee picture extremely funny, and say to anybody who doesn't-'start flinging that first stone'! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-23 06:06:25
QUOTE(Mags @ Aug 22 2008, 10:34 PM) [snapback]499359[/snapback]
My pal brought a copy in to work tonight.

He wasn't very complimentary about Jamie Stevenson...except when he mentioned his car...!!

Wouldn't mind a wee look at the calendar he did for Clyde 1 wub.gif

Mags.

Indeed, he mentioned twice the possibility that Jamie is allergic to soap and water!

What are kids like Jamie and Jimbo doing running around in big BMW's?
mortonjag 2008-08-23 06:15:44
QUOTE(capitanus @ Aug 23 2008, 01:01 AM) [snapback]499447[/snapback]
PMSL @ this thread. laugh.gif laugh.gif
Forthbank always seems to be cast up, but it begs the questions:

If Toby was some middle-aged middle-class guy with steel-framed specs, a carcoat and a placard demanding Jim McInally quits after the shambles that was the game that day, would half of this messageboard be so forthcoming to take shots at him for it? No, would they f***. They'd be so far up his arse that his turds would be touching his eye teeth. But no, hes just an ordinary young guy and that his first love, Morton, has become obsessive and a bit OTT.

Also, in defence of Toby, he is a good-natured big guy. He isn't a violent person by any stretch of the imagination, he likes a bevvy and speaks his mind, nothing wrong with that. Yet he is branded a 'known trouble-maker' by the Chief Steward of an SFL Club based on the hearsay of a worm-like glorified errand boy. That same Morton Official laugh.gif has been in and around the club for a long time and will probably know some folk that have been involved in trouble at football matches, yet he doesnt seem to keen to tell tales about them to Sweepstake selling policemen. dry.gif laugh.gif



Don't talk keech-the Morton Mafia has no respect for age, class, or Profession, as this poster knows very well.

Anyway-back to your post and I agree with all the rest of your comments regarding Toby (whom I back to the hilt on this), and I'm curious to know if your final assessment is based on further information, or just educated guesswork.
mortonjag 2008-08-23 06:25:04
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Aug 22 2008, 11:58 PM) [snapback]499399[/snapback]
Mainly thanks to you I'd say. mad.gif

Of course you would Anus!

QUOTE(Deego @ Aug 23 2008, 12:00 AM) [snapback]499401[/snapback]
Go away.

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QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Aug 23 2008, 01:02 AM) [snapback]499448[/snapback]
...and it's not just him.

The numerous arse kissers he has on here now
The most boring poster in the history of t'internet - deego
s***e alias such as big blue eyes or whatever
Mods who don't really give a fck

The list goes on
...

Forum has gone WAY downhill.

......and on and on....on and on and on son. Posts like yours are just a complete joke-this is a football forum remember-not a kiddies creche where I'm sure your needs would be ably met.

QUOTE(centralTON @ Aug 23 2008, 01:09 AM) [snapback]499451[/snapback]
Would disagree most wholeheatredly.

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mortonjag 2008-08-23 06:39:45 If we were playing attractive football and had a chance of leaving Dundee tonight topping the league, the fans would turn out in goodly numbers despite the undoubted cost. It's as simple as that. For too long we've been told to be thankful for 'second best', and that gratitude is evaporating to be replaced by a cynical awakening to reality.

Still no 'statement' of intent from Cappielow I note, though I've heard it down the grapevine that the Tilly's been getting a couple of letters.

If he's openly criticised to the public of Inverclyde and not just on this wee 'rag' where his nasty agents attempt to muffle criticism, often to their own ultimate demise as credible posters, the old Sugar Daddy will be bound to respond.

That should make for interesting reading!
mortonjag 2008-08-23 06:58:35
QUOTE(johngourock @ Aug 22 2008, 11:03 PM) [snapback]499368[/snapback]
Many thanks to everyone who decided to comment on my book on Andy Ritchie. I have exercised my right of reply.
I really appreciate the time and effort everyone has taken to criticise the book.
I hardly know where to begin to reply.
First of all I have never written a book on Lou McCari as one writer says. I have never claimed to have written a book on Lou. I interviewed Lou McCari when he was manager of Huddersfield Town, that is my sole contact with the former Celtic and Manchester United fan.
The King of Cappielow when it was finished in manuscript form was given to Andy as most of the information contained in the book was offered by Andy himself. He was invited to sign it as a true record of our discussions and conversations. I researched a great deal of the information, contacted Sir Alex Ferguson, Mark McGee, Willie Miller, Bernie Slaven and others and had several face to face contacts with the author of the books Morton Greats and More Morton Greats, Graeme Ross.
It was against this background that I wrote the book.
Andy had the original manuscript for literally months and made all the alterations he wished at that stage.
About two weeks before publication the big fella advised me that in March of 2009 he was going to publish his autobiography in which he will tell his story from his perspective with a totally different slant on his life.
A biography is a story about a person written by someone from their contact and discussions with the person.
All of the information contained in the book came from Andy himself or from researched information.
I was disappointed to read that some members of the board thought the book did not do justice to Andy Ritchie. Whilst acknowledging I could not expect to please all of the people who read the book I was encouraged by the comments I had received from supporters as far a field as Essex, Canada and the United States.
I never suggested I was a JK Rowling or Jeffrey Archer but I wrote the story of Andy Ritchie from the heart.
If I have made mistakes I will have to hold my hands up. That was never my intention.
I was aware that the publication before it was even published upset some folk - I received one email that accused me of "cannonising" Andy Ritchie. I then found out it was a journalist.
I have made not money at all from this biography much to the contrary. I have been coming up to Greenock many times, meeting with Andy, talking to supporters and was only aware of the controversy my writing had caused when somebody emailed me tonight.
On the subject of the relationship I have with Morton FC where I am a share holder I would say this.
At the outset before I had written a word I contacted the club to ask if I could use the club crest and various programmes from the 1970's which I had purchased from programme dealers. The club responded by asking if they could have 10% of the royalties from the book.
That offer was declined on the advice of the publisher and Morton refused to allow me to use the club crest and any information from the 1970's contained in Morton programmes.
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I met with officials of the club and it was agreed they would be supplied with books at wholesale price. To my knowledge the club have not ordered books. I visited Smith's Sports Shop on 9th August when they did they agree to take the book. I also visited WH Smith's in Greenock and invited them to stock the book.
I have not as yet received any royalties or payment for writing the book. But I have made at least 8 visits to Greenock researching the book which involved more than 3,200 miles travel and hotel accomodation which I paid from my own pocket. I have visited Andy at his home in Bellshill, I have visited Motherwell FC., Middlesbrough and other areas to try and give an accurate portrayal of Andy's life.
That was never my intention or was it my intention to offend any Morton supporters or to quote incorrect information.
I was at The Spinnaker Hotel on 9th August after attending the St. Johnstone game when Andy attended for a book signing. More than 100 fans attended. I was with him on 10th August at the Keystore in Cowal View, Gourock when again he signed books and had his picture taken with fans. On Saturday 16th August Andy attended Smith's Sports Shop and again signed books, chatted with fans and indeed sold out the books Smith's had purchased.
Again I am genuinely sorry that The King of Cappielow has received such a poor response from Morton fans. That really does disappoint me. Months of research, hours of interviews with Andy, thousands of miles of travel, countless hotel bills for - what amounts to a poor review.
I hope that when Andy produces his autobiography sometime in 2009 that you will look on it more favourably than my effort.
I wish Morton FC my sincere best wishes for the rest of the season and again I am extremly disappointed that my book has not pleased the Morton faithful.

John




John, I'm wondering if you'd like to write another book entitled 'Rae of Hope'?

I have significant documented material to get you kick started!
mortonjag 2008-08-23 07:10:09
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 23 2008, 04:07 AM) [snapback]499485[/snapback]
The golden rule of conduct is mutual toleration, seeing that we will never all think alike and we shall see Truth in fragments and from different angles of vision.

Conscience is not the same thing for all.

Whilst, therefore, it is a good guide for individual conduct, imposition of that conduct upon all will be an insufferable interference with everybody's freedom of conscience.

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Highly impressed Newt-did you write that all by yourself? laugh.gif

Here's my quote-

I KNOW my rights, and I've every effin right to 'boo' 'cos' I KNOW I'm right and they're effin wrong! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-23 07:16:08
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 22 2008, 10:52 PM) [snapback]499364[/snapback]
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c.f.
Bawheid's to the right of Dave C and Broon on Economic policy.

That's a good thing, rolleyes.gif

I notice that despite tumshie top's vehement retraction, his old bum chum Sillars has described him as 'revisionist'.

Not often I choose to believe a 'leftie'! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-23 07:22:46
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 23 2008, 06:12 AM) [snapback]499488[/snapback]
but I can't place him ???

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Do you know this man?
mortonjag 2008-08-23 07:39:45
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 23 2008, 01:33 AM) [snapback]499460[/snapback]
A lot worse has been posted on the other Forums.

The fact I queried which Forum my GG Jokes thread should be in surely didn't merit the closing of it altogether.

I looked at it earlier on yesterday morning and could see a certain poster was getting rather irate but can someone please inform me as to what led to it's closure / removal ??

I didn't exactly see anyone complaining about 9/11 or 7/7 jokes where innocent folk lost their lives.

Of course maybe the death of someone through a terrorism act ain't as bad as the act of tampering with an underager who lives to tell the story unsure.gif

One of the big factors in the thread being closed was the argument that 'children watch the forum'!

Of course they do-I reckon their average age is 41!!!

Maybe if the parents of potential under age viewers paid more attention to their sprogs' illicit behaviour than to making a big guilty fuss in excuse of their own omissions, the thread would have carried on to a harmless and amusing conclusion.
mortonjag 2008-08-23 07:43:10
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Aug 23 2008, 06:44 AM) [snapback]499494[/snapback]
Me either. That's why i was asking. Thought there might be a couple of kinky buggers on here. ph34r.gif

I reckon there probably are some kinky buggers on here MrsT, and I reckon they are more into bums than baffies.
mortonjag 2008-08-23 07:51:26 Happy birthday to my long term detractor and secret lover!


MUZ



Have a jolly time, and may the Ton win just for you! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-23 09:05:05
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 23 2008, 08:39 AM) [snapback]499510[/snapback]
Don't you ever speak to Mr Rae like that again. rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2008-08-23 09:14:40
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 23 2008, 08:44 AM) [snapback]499514[/snapback]
You putting photos of yourself on here again Douglas?

I'll put photos of me anywhere I like young man-I'm the boss!
mortonjag 2008-08-23 09:17:01
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Aug 23 2008, 09:06 AM) [snapback]499518[/snapback]

Sober up -there's already a thread on this! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-23 09:22:36
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 23 2008, 09:17 AM) [snapback]499523[/snapback]
4-4.
Value for money and a good result.

Hope springs eternal eh!

VT- I NEVER dream the results of Ton games, and this is the honest truth. Last night I dreamt we were walking down the stairs of the Dens stand after a boring 0-0 draw. My Auntie Jenny was with us (she's 86 and lives in Kilmacolm) as was my cousin Hugh who wouldn't know a football from a melon!


Take from that what you will. Should I put £10 on at Mr Hill's boutique?
mortonjag 2008-08-23 09:30:30
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 23 2008, 09:25 AM) [snapback]499531[/snapback]
Morton is an equal opportunities club after all. wink.gif

Where has the Club ever stated that? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-23 09:39:19
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 23 2008, 09:22 AM) [snapback]499527[/snapback]
Don't think it should have been closed, should have been moved to this forum. After all, General Nonsense is for public viewing and the thread really wasn't to everyone's taste.

Threads should not be closed or moved just because 'they are not to everybody's taste', or the forum would die overnight.

The truth is that the Mods bowed to pressure from a small number of posters, and as I said the 'children see this' comment may have been a big factor.

In my opinion, FAR, FAR worse has gone unfettered on the ordinary forum, when nobody complained about children watching/reading.

If parents have any doubts about what their children are viewing they should impose some control themselves. I presume yesterday's moaners have also been lobbying the Mods of every soft porn site in the country, just in case their inquisitive little sprogs discover bums and tits. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-23 09:51:48
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 23 2008, 09:36 AM) [snapback]499539[/snapback]
Revisionist.

Bawheid is to Thatcherism what David Irving is to Hitlerism. laugh.gif

It just gets better.

Clicky



I really liked this wee bit!


Nothing would do apparently but for the First Minister (the First Minister, remember) to arrange to call a BBC Radio Scotland phone-in programme and put an immediate stop to the tiniest suggestion that he was a secret Thatcherite admirer or that he had misrepresented Scots for whom the name Thatcher remains a term of vicious political abuse.

Who was that you mentioned-that Austrian Nationalist!
mortonjag 2008-08-23 10:06:16
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Aug 23 2008, 09:26 AM) [snapback]499532[/snapback]
Oops !
you mean this one ? unsure.gif
http://www.greenockmorton.org/forum/index....showtopic=22837

in my defence i dont tend to read a lot of threads that were started by Newton, lets be honest MOST of the threads he/she (don't know, don't care) starts are complete pish !

Newton is the most misunderstood poster after Mortonjag! His/her/its heart's in the right place.
mortonjag 2008-08-23 10:10:19
QUOTE(Ghost @ Aug 23 2008, 09:46 AM) [snapback]499544[/snapback]
You talking about the Mods again MJ laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-08-23 11:47:54
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 23 2008, 11:12 AM) [snapback]499580[/snapback]
Laughing at things we fear/hate is a part of the human condition.

You know the joke
Doctor- "I've got some good news and sone bad news"
Patient-"Give me the bad news."
Doc-"You've got cancer"
Patient"Fukking hell , what's the good news?"
Doc"You've got Alzheimer's, you'll forget about the cancer in a moment"

Nope, cancer and Alzheimer's themselves ain't funny but laughing about them is a way of coping with the grizzliness of it all.

Glitter is not funny, he's a scumbag, but we can laugh at his pathetic attempts to plead innocence, the picture mocks him and his pretend innocence, it doesn't condone basturts like him, it excoriates them.

TiD, this is the correct place for such jests and such discussions in my humble.

Precisely my point Mr Bam.

Given that we have this forum-fair enough to move it I guess, but even on the ordinary forum NOBODY was condoning Glitter's behaviour, and nobody was praising it.

On the contrary we could all have talked maturely in explicit and gory terms about what we imagine went on during his exploits. Would THAT have been immoral-the problem of paedophilia exists-people do NOT choose to become paedophiles-there is plenty of discussion about homosexuality-regarded still by many as 'depraved'.

For most, open discussion of paedophile behaviour is 'a bridge too far' so they joke about it instead.

Perhaps some would do better to pretend that like Mr Rae's gaffes, death and the tax man, it doesn't exist at all.

Ignore it and it'll go away! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-23 11:56:40
QUOTE(capitanus @ Aug 23 2008, 10:45 AM) [snapback]499564[/snapback]
Its based on an educated guess. Toby states that he was informed by Gillian Donaldson that a club official didn't instruct the stewards to refuse him entry, which he doesnt believe and neither do I.

If i return to watch Morton anytime soon, it will be as an away supporter as I can bring myself to give any more money to them. The events I've read just make me feel further vindicated.

Gillian Donaldson has in the past said many things which have subsequently been proven inaccurate. I hope Toby doesn't let go till the truth is found. The fact that Morton have made no actual effort to publicly vindicate themselves by pinning the tab on the true culprit, smacks strongly of yet another cover up.
mortonjag 2008-08-23 12:06:15
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 23 2008, 10:27 AM) [snapback]499557[/snapback]
What was I wrong about?

The injured innocence of the bare faced liar-eh Smeggy. You were wrong about lots of things-primarily about trying to discredit a bona fide poster who was seeking and GOT the truth.

I'm getting pissed of with personal attacks-not disagreements about opinion or points of principle-just unwarranted personal attacks.

Some do so because they are too thick to understand what's really going on. Your remit is different. As an ex Mod (has the manner of you 'chucking it' something to do with your ongoing problem with Mortonjag?) you should know much better. I'm surprised the present Mods haven't noticed!

Mortonjag's p.m. club is doing just nicely thanks. I now get regular exhortations to 'keep asking questions' from posters eminently better qualified, more experienced, and brighter than yourself.

As I said -you were wrong about lots of things.
mortonjag 2008-08-23 12:09:34
QUOTE(ShimminTon @ Aug 23 2008, 11:15 AM) [snapback]499582[/snapback]
I've checked that thread twice over and couldn't see anything wrong. Mr Newall at it again rolleyes.gif

Aye right! How long did that take you and why read it twice. 'Shimmin Ton'-nine bloody posts and feels he can say-'Mr Newall at it again'.

You sound like another insider weasel to me dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-24 09:15:31
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 23 2008, 12:15 PM) [snapback]499613[/snapback]
I'm genuinely interested, what was he actually wrong about as I sure as hell am not going back through the thread!

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QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Aug 23 2008, 12:24 PM) [snapback]499617[/snapback]
You could have hit the nail on the head. dry.gif

So demoralising to open the page and see that 40 threads have been replied to by MJ.
So I just go over to P&B instead.

Go to church instead!

QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Aug 23 2008, 01:49 PM) [snapback]499655[/snapback]
So THAT is where we've been going wrong. If we had just banned MJ, then we would have been saved years of turgid football, inept management, and watching our club being ran like a tuck shop.
However did we not realise? ohmy.gif
Load of pish. The simple fact of the matter is that the majority of people are losing patience with Morton on all levels and can't be bothered anymore, and that is backed up by the steadily declining attendances. This forum merely reflects the growing apathy towards Morton even within previously dedicated fans, it's nothing to do with one single poster. If we must blame one person for the current state of lethargy, then I do believe I can provide a far better target than some retired old geezer with a computer and too much time on his hands. That isn't the point though. There are many reasons for the current disillusionment, and MJ most certainly isn't one of them. Some people really need to grow up and stop taking this board so seriously.

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QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 23 2008, 11:14 PM) [snapback]499901[/snapback]
I didn't discredit Greacen2000 about anything. In fact I applauded his perseverance, and dedication to the truth.

I recall accusing you of being primarily interested in self-aggrandisement, which I stand by.
Can you name an example?

Greacen's involvement in that thread was incidental. That has been explained already-something which you chose to ignore, in order to pursue your vendetta. To put it in the nicest possible way, Greacen volunteered to ask Mortonjag questions after he had sent the Jag a p.m. At that point he had NO IDEA that AD was not a director, while Mortonjag had the Companies House reports right under his nose. They are still here, dated well before Greacen was 'guided' to the truth! rolleyes.gif

FURTHERMORE, far from Mortonjag pursuing 'self aggrandisement' (why not just expose the stuff himself if that were so), Mortonjag too, was acting in conjunction with others in the pursuit of the truth. Indeed it could be said that Mortonjag was acting as an undercover agent!

THOSE OTHERS, Smeggy, have VAST clout among the fans-they have immense credibility-and they specifically encouraged the Jag in order to keep their own cover intact! smile.gif

Why is it that all the DECENT posters who gave Mortonjag a VERY hard time on the AD thread have now backed off when they've realised who was right all along.

Why is solitary little Smegma steadfastly slevering over his keyboard, using the AD thread as an ongoing platform for his so far unexplained and apparently unreasonable vendetta against Mortonjag? Can Mortonjag have the answer please? Does chubby little Smegma KNOW the answer? A vastly experienced physician with a special interest in psychological problems, Mortonjag has his own theory.



QUOTE(Cawston @ Aug 24 2008, 12:02 AM) [snapback]499917[/snapback]
Don't you just hate that?

See my response above Cawstick and stop jumping to conclusions!

QUOTE(El gofer @ Aug 24 2008, 12:43 AM) [snapback]499940[/snapback]
Can I join your p.m club please????

You really are the peepullz champ!

Of course you can. 'Mortonjag's p.m. club' was a term coined by another poster.

So far Mortonjag has given medical advice to almost twenty grateful posters, and is in regular communication with many well known 'behind the scenes' fans who share his views, encourage ongoing questions, and endorse pursuit of the truth at all times.

QUOTE(Deego @ Aug 24 2008, 12:52 AM) [snapback]499949[/snapback]
I agree with all of that.

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QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Aug 24 2008, 03:31 AM) [snapback]500031[/snapback]
I can't really argue with that either, but at the same time, I would rather have MJ who at least is opinionated, than the folk who seem to have nothing to say for themselves other than abusing him for saying what he feels. Yes, he may go on a bit, but being over-opinionated is better than nothing.

It is a shame though, that a lot of the humour of the old boards seem to have disappeared for one reason or t'other. The thread about Geoffery Capes (I think, apparently looking like someones wife, I think!!) was spectacular, every post on it was hilarious smile.gif

There's actually much less abuse of Mortonjag nowadays by most posters who previously misunderstood the daft old doctor EM

What's happening now is that Mortonjag is getting regular sniping abuse from a relatively small number of bitter pro Rae activists. At least one of them-Mabawsa Ritchie-has, Mortonjag gathers, already been exposed. He is apparently the Office Manager at Cappielow who has access to Mortonjag's personal data, and who blatantly posted on P & B : 'he's NOT a doctor BTW'.

There are others-Spot Ton, Shimmin Ton, and Ron Number have nothing to contribute in real terms to our forum but regularly abuse the Jag. Mortonjag wonders who they are! ph34r.gif Russell's Muscles-the guy who published club insider information is lurking on the fringes again. Mortonjag will be keeping a watchful eye on the said weasel.

Those guys are NOT on our massage board as bona fide posters. See them for what they are! Expose the infiltrators! They don't like open questions being asked.


WHY?
mortonjag 2008-08-24 09:42:56
QUOTE(stuart @ Aug 24 2008, 09:24 AM) [snapback]500072[/snapback]
That reminds me of *careful, or I'll close down the Internet*'s rant against "Les Miserables, Donga Ton and Wild Bill Hickock".

But anyway, I think it will only take one good performance on Tuesday night to reignite the enthusiasm for this season.

However, I am really saddened to read Dundee fans claiming they didn't even play well yesterday and that we offered very little. The least I expect from our team is to make the other side have to work hard and play well to beat us. We could lose every game in a season but as long as the team were giving their all and making the opposition fight hard for the points I would always back the team. We need to be careful we don't slip back into the pattern of the first 2 thirds of last season and get stuck in a losing rut.

Really! I take it then that the said Hugh's Cot was telling the absolute truth!

If you want to make comments like that it would be helpful if you would indicate what you find in Mortonjag's post which brings you to liken it to the rant of a man whose motives were NOT in the Club's interests.

Just another wee dig at the Jag Stuart?

Oh-and Dundee were poor yesterday while we were MINCE!
mortonjag 2008-08-24 09:48:52
QUOTE(Russells Muscles @ Aug 23 2008, 09:36 PM) [snapback]499887[/snapback]
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Did Mr Rae ever find out you were publishing confidential club data on the forum. You are claiming the Mods know you -NOT what they told me. Tread carefully on those weasel paws.
mortonjag 2008-08-24 09:57:51
QUOTE(stuart @ Aug 24 2008, 09:45 AM) [snapback]500079[/snapback]
No, it's just that your comments were referring to people with weird names like "Russel's Muscles" which is just pretty funny. When you read in the paper *careful, or I'll close down the Internet* complaining about Wild Bill Hickock and Les Miserables that was quite funny too.

I didn't have you down as one of the infiltrators Stuart. Russell's Muscles, in case you didn't know, is the name of the so far unidentified Cappielow insider, who published confidential information about the Jag on this forum. At the time he scarpered like a singed stoat, but has again been making verminous squeaking noises. If he hangs around he'll eventually expose himself as those clowns are wont to do.
mortonjag 2008-08-24 10:12:43
QUOTE(Lifelongfan @ Aug 24 2008, 03:57 AM) [snapback]500043[/snapback]
OK another game played - another defeat. Facts: This time last season we had 7 points from the first three league games (and avoided the dreaded paly-offs by one very important goal) and this season we only have 2 points!
Looking at recent crowd trends at cappielow, I think that the message being sent is one that MFC is, if not in crisis yet, is certainly heading towards one!

What are everyone's thoughts as to the 'progress' we are making at our football club?

Where and when is the next victory going to come from?

Do you think that DI and DC are the guys to take us forward and upwards?

How much longer should Douglas Rae continue in his current role?

I believe we will finish mid table-probably fifth. I believe that crowds will continue to drop unless we start to play attractive football-that's the conundrum-Mr Rae has loaned as much of GC's dosh as he's willing/been allowed to and the club is stagnant.

With no more money and no players to sell on-I believe Jimbo has finally been exposed for what he's REALLY worth- the truth is dawning that success under Rae was inevitably going to be limited.

It's time to move on if we possibly can. Mr Rae will never see things realistically-he will always blame others for his own incompetence-but even he must see what's happening in fiscal terms.

What is the role of Alistair Donald? He's been a director for almost two months and still hasn't uttered a word.

I see Donkey Dave's keeking over the hedge again!


Any thoughts Dave? smile.gif smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-24 10:18:54
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 24 2008, 10:08 AM) [snapback]500093[/snapback]
I didn't choose to ignore it. I chose instead to go with what I saw with my own eyes on the thread, i.e. that he posted when others were unwilling to do so. Not being privy to PMs between you two I'd rather go with what I saw rather than what you're telling me.

The idea that you're primarily in this for self-aggrandisement is pretty compelling when you act as if you were somehow in possession of exclusive info in the form of a Companies House report that I would wager over a dozen posters here already held.

I don't know, but taking the credit for it after the fact - consistently and desperately - certainly fits the bill.
Speaking of right/wrong, what was I wrong about?

Haha, what? You brought the thread up, not me.
Wow, that's quite a scoop laugh.gif

I think your obsession with that 'bete noir' will be staring the majority of intelligent posters in the face Smegma.
mortonjag 2008-08-24 10:35:40
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 24 2008, 10:20 AM) [snapback]500097[/snapback]
OK.

Are you going to tell me what I said that was wrong on the AD thread, by the way? A yes or no will do. I don't have the time to indulge your 'high cycle' today unless it's going to concern me directly, so let me know please biggrin.gif

Everything you said was 'wrong' Smeggy, for the simple reason that you deliberately set out to discredit and cast doubt on Mortonjag's motives. You made a bit of a fool of yourself in pursuing your obsession, hoping for a big 'hit' The fact that you cannot back down on this particular issue is proof positive that your normally clear mind has been befuddled.

I invite you to state that you endorse Mortonjag's continuing pursuit of the truth.

QUOTE(foobs the elder @ Aug 24 2008, 10:23 AM) [snapback]500099[/snapback]
Lack of enthusiasm !!!!!!!!

When we were last in the first div, mid table, we had a fair team capable of giving anyone a good game, it was a pleasure to go to the Scappa with a lift in your step.

At the moment I go with trepidation,

Dundee Yesterday, the Defence has been firmed up, good move to move Shimmin into the middle.

Mid field,,,,,, Oh Dear all the players brought from Gretna, Marshmallows more like, soft centres, no fight, Couldn't win a ball in a raffle or tackle a fish supper,

Forwards ..........lets not go there............ but the do have the excuse ......no service.........

We see other teams passing the ball around,,,,,,,,,,we have done it on occassions in the past, why now is it the big lump up the park........and don't even look up first.

This is why we lack enthusiasm

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Oh and coming on here to the strains of Mortonjag

I defend his right to have opinions

But does he have to have so bloody many

Good!
mortonjag 2008-08-24 10:47:25
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Aug 23 2008, 05:30 PM) [snapback]499820[/snapback]
The worrying thing is that we have no settled line-up or formation. That was a problem last season too. And it has to be rectified quickly. Having no full-backs is killing us again. And I still don't think there's enough quality up top. There is no proper balance in the squad IMO, and we'll struggle because of that.

TBH I think we've only had 1 bad result in the league but we haven't had any good results. We cannot afford to lose next week if we don't want to put ourselves under alot of pressure.

The main problem IMO.

QUOTE(Ghost @ Aug 23 2008, 07:28 PM) [snapback]499835[/snapback]
I enjoyed the day out, with all the lads on the buses. But for the game, that was utter cack. If thats the best we have to throw on the park then im afraid we can look forward to a relegation battle.

Weatherson was utter mince imo.
Dear Mr Rae, any chance you could maybe give us this Quality over Quantity that was promised. Or are you just taking us all for a ride.
f***ing sort it out Morton, 2 points from 12 is pish.

Indeed!

QUOTE(Savo @ Aug 24 2008, 01:34 AM) [snapback]499970[/snapback]
Diabolical from start to finish - Morton were pathetic today.

Maybe the worst thing about it was that Dundee are quite clearly a shadow of the team they were last season. If that is all we have to offer we'd be as well chucking it.

More worryingly, St Johnstone's last two results expose the merit of our efforts against them the other week.

As for today, Weatherson at RB is a joke and sets alarm bells ringing as to the judgement of Collins & Irons.

Beyond that, the way we lost the goal would shame an under-10s BB team.

And that's after they spent the early part of the week watching DVDs of how not to defend v Livi.

Glad to see it worked and they were all paying attention to the basics, like how to pick runners up at set plays etc. Are they incapable of listening to simple instructions?

Going forward it was even worse: we offered nothing, aside from a feeble effort off a misjudged clearance.

One of the most depressing Morton games Ive been to for a long time.

Not good enough.

Many questions still unanswered. DI had to budget buy, but what he's bought is failing to gel, and we have no shape and no game plan if you discount a long ball to Wakey.

The main question for me is 'Is DI really that good'? Time will tell.

mortonjag 2008-08-24 10:58:13
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 24 2008, 10:38 AM) [snapback]500108[/snapback]
Can you give a specific example? A yes or no will do.

I will, if you wish, trawl that thread, and I WILL produce an answer, and you WILL be further exposed as self obsessed and vendetta pursuing.

In the spirit of answering loaded questions.

Do you endorse Mortonjag's ongoing pursuit of the truth?

A 'yes' or 'no' will suffice.
mortonjag 2008-08-24 11:08:40
QUOTE(nach0king @ Aug 24 2008, 11:04 AM) [snapback]500116[/snapback]
laugh.gif Hold on a minute - asking you to prove something that you stated is a loaded question?!

Please do trawl that thread, although given that you've already stated your conclusion (i.e. that I was wrong about "a lot of things") I foolishly imagined that you already had.
I endorse anyone's pursuit of the truth, so in that sense I say "yes."

Whether or not I approve of you or your methods is, of course, another matter entirely. Hint: generally it helps to seek evidence out before stating a conclusion, not the other way around. Your "pursuit" would be more successful if you kept these little basics in mind.

Good, I'm glad you've cleared that up.

Mortonjag's methods were successful.

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mortonjag 2008-08-24 17:16:45
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 24 2008, 02:49 PM) [snapback]500222[/snapback]
The lack of enthusiasm is very easliy explainable.
1) The players we have are not good enough. The point made by Foobs about the Gretna players is fair comment.
2) Irons is not the man to take us forward. If you are a scientist conducting experiments to prove a theory you do not carry out the same experiment 100 times expecting a different result each time.

I've felt comfortable enough up till now in the sense that I see us out of the relegation battle this season, but in terms of going forward I agree.

I said as soon as DI/DC arrived that their inability to progress under the current 'cash strapped' regime, might eventually lead to frustration, and that they might go much earlier that Mr Rae predicted.

Davie Irons frustration is already showing-he has started putting inappropriate blame on his players. Yesterday Newby may have made an error of judgement, but from behind the goals it looked more like an inspired save by Douglas. Newby has been left to carry the can for the failure to get a point.

Surely if Mr Irons REALLY wants to pinpoint blame, the utterly pathetic tackle by his makeshift right back which led to their first goal was FAR more culpable, and the REAL blame rests on the management for failing to sign a balanced squad.
mortonjag 2008-08-24 17:40:34
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Aug 24 2008, 01:34 PM) [snapback]500184[/snapback]
Hi MJ! wub.gif


Not guilty this time Anus! laugh.gif
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Aug 24 2008, 02:31 PM) [snapback]500211[/snapback]
I totally agree with that.

I like the look of our defence and midfield but the strikers concern me. I don't think any of them are good enough to get you 15 - 20 goals over a season and that could be our downfall.

Our Goalkeepers also concern me but not as much as our strikers.

I couldn't agree less. Yesterday the size of Dens park was utterly wasted because we have no width. Our midfield was feckless in terms of initiative and supplying even a half decent pass, let alone holding the ball and developing play. It was a big long ball to Wakey and fingers crossed every time.

FFS I don't remember ONE decent cross into the box in the whole game. We don't have the best strikers in the league (as we're relatively skint) and we CERTAINLY don't have the worst.
mortonjag 2008-08-24 17:53:09


[quote name='vikingTON' date='Aug 24 2008, 03:49 PM' post='500267']
I specifically watched Weatherson and he lost his man, whetheer it was the goalscorer or not.
I thought Paton was Weatherson's man.

That's pretty obvious from a picture in today's Sunday Mail.
mortonjag 2008-08-24 18:03:46
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Aug 23 2008, 05:30 PM) [snapback]499820[/snapback]
The worrying thing is that we have no settled line-up or formation. That was a problem last season too. And it has to be rectified quickly. Having no full-backs is killing us again. And I still don't think there's enough quality up top. There is no proper balance in the squad IMO, and we'll struggle because of that.

TBH I think we've only had 1 bad result in the league but we haven't had any good results. We cannot afford to lose next week if we don't want to put ourselves under alot of pressure.

Indeed.

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 24 2008, 03:07 PM) [snapback]500227[/snapback]
Slightly disagree with you there Tonsilitis. With the players we have brought in we should be beating Clyde away and winning our home games against teams like Livingstone.
2 points from a possible 12 is relegation/playoff material. Granted we have a long way to go, but if we are still battling away with other teams at the foot of the table come Xmas, I believe we will be in a dog fight to avoid the playoff's again.

Looking at the squad DI has assembled, and even discounting the fact that it's so unbalanced, we should be picking up a fair share of points IMO.

I've now witnessed two successive displays of relative ineptitude on the park, and total lack of imagination/vision in the dugout.

Hopefully this is just a 'glitch'.
mortonjag 2008-08-24 18:10:42
QUOTE(Magic Mathie @ Aug 23 2008, 01:49 AM) [snapback]499466[/snapback]
Seing as how I've not been granted access to the fanny ventura forum now is a good time to tell you that I've just taken £3000 net out of the willie hill online casino and none of you feckers are getting a pint off me on Tuesday.

So up ye's tongue.gif

[center]ATTENTION...ATTENTION


MATHIE IS A TOP NOTCH POUFFE


LET HIM JOIN HIS BROTHERS
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mortonjag 2008-08-24 18:22:19
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 24 2008, 01:43 AM) [snapback]499979[/snapback]
time for chapter 1 please.

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I thought it would make a good story for posters to develop individually. blush.gif


Susan's secret would have horrified her parents-they had not the slightest inkling that their daughter's regular liaisons with the local fruiterer had little to do with his frequent gifts of provisions for the family's table........................................
mortonjag 2008-08-24 18:40:44
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 23 2008, 06:15 PM) [snapback]499827[/snapback]
One way you could look at it Tom. He could have persuaded more than a few Tories to vote SNP at the Glenrothes election by his comments.

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QUOTE(HamCam @ Aug 23 2008, 06:55 PM) [snapback]499833[/snapback]
Whether they admit it or not many folk in Scotland voted for Thatcher at the time the Tory bandwagon was in full swing. Even now many retain a grudging respect for the woman particularly down south. Ill judged comments though from Mr S when you consider the lasting damage the woman who is not for turning did to communities throughout Scotland.

What surprises me more is the reaction of a minority of posters particularly of the older generation to the current success of the SNP. At every turn some are grasping for any straw to have a go. Is it just that folk are having great difficulty in coming to terms with the current change in the political landscape in Scotland ? Whether you like it or not the SNP are perceived as being a credible party of government not something you could say of the party in power at Westminister. Mr S is also one of the most accomplished political performers around as is evident in the opinion polls. An opportunist yes but a leader voters are willing to believe in.

Despite the above comments I am yet to be convinced of the credibility and deliverability of the SNP's policies but I am willing to give them a chance. Just curious as to why others are not ?


I am most certainly willing to give the SNP a chance. That's why I despair every time I see that grotesque looking cartoonist's joy making yet another arse of himself,


mortonjag 2008-08-24 18:49:25
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 24 2008, 12:05 AM) [snapback]499919[/snapback]
I hate the whole concept of stereotypes.

In my experience there are 'good guys' and 'wanks' in every nationality, occupation, creed, colour and religion.

And the ratios don't seem to vary with each category.

Very true.

I never had you down as a 'good guy'! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-24 19:00:59
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 24 2008, 09:52 AM) [snapback]500083[/snapback]
The best things come to those that wait blush.gif

Any idea of the date yet Mr Rae?
mortonjag 2008-08-24 19:06:45
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 24 2008, 12:12 AM) [snapback]499923[/snapback]
Why on earth would someone buy biscuits with no pants on? huh.gif

Just a casual observation, that fanny looks like it's had a fair few boabys up it.

It does look somewhat 'lived in'.
mortonjag 2008-08-24 19:22:36
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Aug 24 2008, 01:46 AM) [snapback]499981[/snapback]
You really will cringe when you read these in the morning. That's pure torture.
And written in pigeon English - magic !

"when he's flex his pex?"

It should be something like this ........

In an effort to try something new,
Spoonsy winked at the bold Paartalu,
He manoeuvred quite quickly,
Hopped on to his mickey,
And guided it into his flue.

TonInDublin

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Bold Eric quoth 'Spoonsy, you're gay-
I like it the old fashioned way,
But do as you will-
You've practised that skill
To sook up to old Mr Rae
mortonjag 2008-08-24 19:43:16 If we accept that paedophilia is an illness, then, by definition, we accept it as being beyond the control of its sufferer in exactly the way that we accept schizophrenia, says Carol Sarler in 'The Times'.

I imagine many posters can't get their head round paedophilia as an illness. Let's face it the poor pouffes even get a hard time on this forum, but it's generally agreed among specialists that paedophiles are ill.

How should they be treated?

Should we simply chemically castrate them-indeed just chop off their bollocks?

Should we put them behind bars and fling away the key.

I don't have the answer.

I'm sure many of you have your own theories.


mortonjag 2008-08-24 20:35:58
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Aug 24 2008, 08:07 PM) [snapback]500406[/snapback]
Chop em aff with a rusty hacksaw blade..........in the town square for everyone to see ! mad.gif

laugh.gif Any reason why it has to be rusty?

QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Aug 24 2008, 08:28 PM) [snapback]500418[/snapback]
lock them up with hard labour for life, along with the pouffes and liberals thumbup2.gif ohmy.gif

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mortonjag 2008-08-24 20:38:38
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 24 2008, 07:46 PM) [snapback]500393[/snapback]
Midweek.

PS: I'm now up to lasting for 2mins 40secs rolleyes.gif

Well TBH I built in an extra 20secs for the foreplay blush.gif

Come again!
mortonjag 2008-08-24 20:43:54
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 24 2008, 06:53 PM) [snapback]500368[/snapback]
Aye, he is making such an arse of things his party are miles ahead in the polls, his own personal popularity cannot be rivaled by anyone here in Scotland.
His party just had a 22% swing to take a strong Labour seat (with a good possibility of taking another one rolleyes.gif )

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laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Oh FFS grow up Spurtle-Shell Suit Bob's more popular than that leering buffoon!
mortonjag 2008-08-24 21:00:15
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 24 2008, 07:23 PM) [snapback]500381[/snapback]
Whit?
The touchlines at Dens are ridiculously contracted to force sides to play narrow I'm sure there'll be photos for those who didn't attend)
I agree that we lack any form of consistent wide play but yestersay was never going to be a great opportunity to demonstrate that, or otherwise.
I don't think we can judge Russell when the service is abysmal and - the key issue IMO - there is absolutely no midfield support to help him out.
Wake's strong enough to hold up play, but Russell is losing the ball because we cannot play effectively as a team.

Perspective is indeed a strange thing. I merely said that the size of the pitch was not used to advantage. Dens park is NOT narrower than average. If you've any stats to prove that it is , I'd like to see them.
mortonjag 2008-08-24 21:27:56
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 24 2008, 09:21 PM) [snapback]500448[/snapback]
I don't believe it can be cured. Chemical castration seems the most humane option. But to be honest, the rusty hacksaw seems quite tempting......

I agree, and if they are ill, we should surely attempt to treat them humanely. The innocent have to be protected.
mortonjag 2008-08-24 21:30:44
QUOTE(WillowMan @ Aug 24 2008, 09:15 PM) [snapback]500444[/snapback]
Indeed as my recovery time is now down to three hours tongue.gif

My advice is to keep her guessing at the first date. By all means stick a baking potato inside your pants!
mortonjag 2008-08-24 21:33:13
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Aug 24 2008, 08:16 PM) [snapback]500410[/snapback]
You've given a toe-job ? unsure.gif

male or female toes ?

In my experience the most common cause of athlete's f*nny.
mortonjag 2008-08-24 21:36:54
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 24 2008, 09:17 PM) [snapback]500445[/snapback]
Maybe in MJ land, but what you suggest is not reality. Sorry to dissapoint you but Salmond is the popular leader of a popular party.

You don't win by-elections from your main political rivals wiping out a 13,500 majority by being a buffoon.

It was Margaret Curran, Spurtle!
Talk about taking candy from a baby! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-24 21:40:40
QUOTE(capitanus @ Aug 24 2008, 09:35 PM) [snapback]500458[/snapback]
unsure.gif blink.gif

Who's running the turnstile at Firhill? Jonathan King by any chance??

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mortonjag 2008-08-25 06:43:15
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Aug 24 2008, 10:06 PM) [snapback]500474[/snapback]
Do you think that they set the team out with the intention of just booting it back to front? Nervous defenders and lack of a visible midfield have caused that to be one of our only options so far this season. We need the guys in the middle of the park to take a little bit of responsibility to improve the overall play of the team, and I guess that's where the management team have failed. With proper supply, the 3 guys up top would be knocking in goals, of that I have little doubt, but it's not really happened so far this season.

Irons cannot be totally blamed for lack of effort/form on the pitch.

QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Aug 24 2008, 10:37 PM) [snapback]500479[/snapback]
To be honest after watching the team this season I think the team McInally had on the park was far better to watch than the team Iron's has assembled.
We seem to have lost all the creative players we had, Stevenson, Miller, Jimbo is a shadow of himself. I was never a fan of Scott McLaughlin, in fact I thought he was poor, but he wasn't afraid to shout for the ball and show some leadership on the park and try and do something. I'm beginning to think Irons told MacGregor he could go because he can pass a ball 10 yards and is not into cloud football.
In their place we have guys who huff and puff but never seem to be able to blow the house down. None of them actively get involved in the game. They are content to wait until the ball lands at their feet. Or usually somewhere from the neck upwards given DI tactics of the big punt, before getting involved in the action. I watched Jenkins for a while on Saturday and he was totally ineffective. He just ran around pointing to other players looking as though he was doing something. I think flatter to deceive would be the term.
The only player who went about his business in a professional way was Shimmin who must be wondering what he has let himself in for given how bad we played. But even he offered nothing more than he needed to to get by.
We couldn't string two passes together.
I do hope Irons gets it right but he needs some leadership on the park. He needs someone who will calm everybody down take the ball at his feet and do the simple thing, and I exclude from that the obligatory Morton punt.

We need to see some football, I've seen under 18s making a better attempt to play football than our current squad.
To be honest, the thought of going to watch that week in week out and paying for the privilege when I can watch it in a public park for free doesn't bode well for an exciting season.

Measles-you have amazed me! I agree with just about all of that.

QUOTE(Toby @ Aug 25 2008, 12:52 AM) [snapback]500499[/snapback]
You seem to have a major problem with the "TTG mob"? You might not have liked the way we went about it but were we not wrong in doubting the previous incumbent's credentials ohmy.gif????? Surely whether we love or loathe David Irons' we're better off with him than we were with Jim?

Snake face is a teacher,Toby. I'd imagine he sees you as unruly children. Teachers are like that yet half of them have failed to grow up themselves.

QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 25 2008, 02:05 AM) [snapback]500505[/snapback]
I only thought that there was a swell of opinion towards the TTG when it was clear McInally had become a liability ( I can hear you saying that was at Peterhead 2 seasons previous )

Feck I'm surprised DDFR hasn't still got the flags at half mast .

Irons is still building a team that isin't finished , he probably knows this as much as the next person but if you have to go with a small squad you'll always find coaches airing on the side of caution.

I don't know what to make of it all so far. From the word 'go' he talked about being on a budget. Whether he or Mr Rae was behind the apparently ridiculous wage rises and contract extensions to existing players seems unclear. Going on past history I CANNOT believe DI could/would have done that without explicit encouragement from the Chairman.

Anyhow-he promised a small squad of 'quality' players, and in so doing stuck to the only system he seems to understand-big, strong, and direct. Once things settle down, injuries clear up, and the squad gels, we'll pull away in this division. I don't fear relegation.

I see DI/DC as intelligent men who will hopefully learn quickly-don't forget they are relative rookies in the management stakes. Coaching seems to be good, but they have to become more tactically aware and with the existing squad their options are VERY limited.

The January transfer window may prove very interesting indeed. By then the management will have had PLENTY of time to clear their heads and establish priorities. If required funding is not forthcoming I will not be blaming Irons and Collins.
mortonjag 2008-08-25 07:03:05 Something which has irritated me immensely in the last few seasons has been a common attitude to cup competitions. Partick's current success is in no small measure down to last season's successful cup run.

We desperately need money.

Should we fail to progress tomorrow night, I expect again to hear folk claiming that they 'are glad to have the distraction of that 'Diddy Cup' out of the way, so that we can 'concentrate on the League'. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-25 07:12:20
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 24 2008, 08:43 PM) [snapback]500430[/snapback]
Eck Salmond is limited in intellect, vision, integrity and conviction. In fact he possesses all the qualities necessary for a successful career in politics. He is a model of 'The Prince'; we can all rest assured that he won't let political principles get in the way of self aggrandisement.

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QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 25 2008, 01:03 AM) [snapback]500501[/snapback]
Who said he was clever? He'll unravel sooner or later......like all snakes do.
Aye, and Tory Boy Cameron is a model of The Dunce. laugh.gif

Snakes uncoil Mr Edwards-there is a difference. They are also regularly wont to change their skins! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-25 07:15:30
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 24 2008, 09:34 PM) [snapback]500457[/snapback]
You mean the types that piss and puke in the street and 'lift up their kilts' to women passers by.

I thought Spurtle had reformed!
mortonjag 2008-08-25 07:22:55
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 25 2008, 02:20 AM) [snapback]500507[/snapback]
Does chemical castration not, have to be voluntary if it were an illness you could lock them up indefinitely until you find a cure ?
Were going with the rusty hacksaw , I know it ...

That can be changed! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-25 07:27:29
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 25 2008, 07:22 AM) [snapback]500527[/snapback]
Tomorrow night is not the Diddy Cup.

Don't we play QOTS in the Diddy Cup ?

Or am I pissed again ?

It is 4.22 pm

It is 7.26 a.m. Newt-I'd say that makes you well pissed again! laugh.gif


The Challenge cup is the Diddy Diddy Cup-known affectionately as the Playtex Cup.

The CIS cup has regularly been rubbished by our posters over the last few years!
mortonjag 2008-08-25 07:59:26
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 25 2008, 07:18 AM) [snapback]500526[/snapback]
has he got a quarter pounder or a big mac ?

with wrinkly chips ?

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I had him down as Quorn haggis.
mortonjag 2008-08-25 08:09:35
QUOTE(dazed @ Aug 25 2008, 08:02 AM) [snapback]500534[/snapback]
I would volunteer to be the hangman for these B******* , They should have chucked Glitter out the plane on the way back.

Worse crime on the planet betraying the trust of a child.

Indeed!


MILLIONS THE TINY TASTY CHEWY SWEET




(Signed Tubby Toothless).
mortonjag 2008-08-25 08:45:57
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 22 2008, 12:06 PM) [snapback]498876[/snapback]
Thanx, Bryan.

You may see Mr Donald at the Dundee match.

NOPE!
mortonjag 2008-08-25 08:52:14
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Aug 25 2008, 08:39 AM) [snapback]500539[/snapback]
It's probably been rubbished as we always seem to be knocked out early doors....This is the furtherest we achieved in this competition in donkey years.

If we were to get a result tomorrow I'm sure the groundswell of opinion would change, but at the end of the day we are not expected too and a decent performance will do for me.

BTW- how much did Partick make in the CIS cup last season?

I haven't actual figures to hand (they are easily got) but they effectively wrote off their total debt as a result of that cup run, which you will re-call saw them play Rangers twice.
mortonjag 2008-08-25 08:57:30
QUOTE(Alibi @ Aug 25 2008, 08:50 AM) [snapback]500543[/snapback]
I maybe shouldn't comment as I've only seen the Midden game this season, but I suspect we are now seeing what an influential player Chris Miller was. We have more height and physical strength, which were lacking for most of last season and many seasons before that, but I think we may have gone too far in the other direction. I wouldn't be surprised to see Jamie back after Xmas, although Alloa aren't doing too well so maybe he is actually rubbish after all.

Much of the problem with our poor results (and we're only losing by a single goal when we lose) is that we don't have a really good striker. Sort that and we'll win 3-2 instead of losing 2-1.

If you had been to the recent games I think you'd have noticed that even the best striker in the world would have been hard pressed to score. The supply has been nothing short of abysmal, and nothing comes from the wings.

We have FAR greater priorities than yet another striker.
mortonjag 2008-08-25 09:06:16
QUOTE(Alibi @ Aug 25 2008, 08:41 AM) [snapback]500540[/snapback]
I should maybe have said that the existence of the OF tends to distort matters somewhat - most people are exposed to press and TV stories about the OF from the moment they are born, which is why they have so many so-called "supporters" who have never been to a game. What it means is that the OF are not local to any area in the same way that Morton or St Mirren or Montrose are.

Regarding your last paragraph, I agree in part but that might be overcome if our parliament had sufficient powers, i.e. full independence. I would suggest that the current government is a lot less divisive than the last lot, although despite being a member of the SNP, I disagree strongly with their lack of a policy to get rid of ALL faith schools and remove religion from the education system, while enshrining the right of total freedom to choose your own religious pursuits as you so wish - i.e. leave religion to churches and leave education to schools. That is the single most prominent issue on which I disagree with SNP policy (although I'm not sure if it is actually party policy or just Alex Salmond's own view...)

I agree wholeheartedly, and Bawheid's giving the nod to a planned Muslim school in Glasgow demonstrates the depths he will plumb to catch a bigger swatch of the electorate. Faith schools are per se, divisive. Capitanus is correct about Catholics being hated, and failed to add that in turn they hate the perceived 'haters'.

Irrespective of all that, booing a National Anthem was IMO childish.
mortonjag 2008-08-25 09:09:21
QUOTE(Rossi @ Aug 25 2008, 08:59 AM) [snapback]500547[/snapback]

Bawheid will want him stripped of his medals! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-25 09:38:55
QUOTE(RankinBorn75 @ Aug 25 2008, 09:33 AM) [snapback]500553[/snapback]
But he did say this .. which makes no sense he doesnt even know if he is a Scottish or British athlete ...

"For him to call for a Scottish Olympic team at this stage is ridiculous. I wouldn't have three gold medals hanging round my neck if I wasn't part of the British team. I'm a Scottish athlete in a British team, and I'm proud to be a British athlete.

Plus I dont think such things should be decided by a guy who is basiclly a glorified Mamster !!

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WTF is that, and are you referring to Hoy or Bawheid?
mortonjag 2008-08-25 09:43:52
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 25 2008, 09:41 AM) [snapback]500560[/snapback]
Did Salmond not take his degree at a proper university ?

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Born in Linlithgow, West Lothian, Salmond is the son of Robert Fyfe Findlay Salmond and the late Mary Stewart Salmond (nee Milne), both of whom were civil servants. Salmond attended Linlithgow Academy [1] and the University of St Andrews, where he graduated with an MA in Economics and History. He was first employed as an assistant economist in the Department of Agriculture and Fisheries for Scotland from 1978.

Mr Salmon! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-25 09:47:30
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 25 2008, 09:42 AM) [snapback]500562[/snapback]
Why can a lassie not get to Heaven in a Playtex bra ?

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I don't know Newt-I remember they were described as living bras!
mortonjag 2008-08-25 10:14:29
QUOTE(Tyrannous @ Aug 24 2008, 03:24 PM) [snapback]500248[/snapback]
Yes, you should feel dirty.

My take on Dundee's goal yesterday was that it was more down to the keeper's positioning rather than Weatherson's marking, as he took the stick for it which didn't seem fair. Neither of our goalkeepers are top quality but I'd by far, rather we had either of the two we have now, in goal than Robinson who was joke - end of.

Going by each of our goalkeepers histories, I'd probably rather we stuck with Cuthbert than switched back to Stewart.

I thought it was a well executed set piece with nobody really to blame.
mortonjag 2008-08-25 10:18:42
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Aug 25 2008, 08:55 AM) [snapback]500545[/snapback]
Steady on now MJ , we wouldn't want to ruin our reputations would we.

I can tell you now Irons was given a budget and he was the one who blew it, for once DDFR stood back and let the manager do the job. Just a pity he made an arse of it because sadly DDFR will probably not allow that to happen again.

Very true Measles. Are you perchance 'His master's voice'? laugh.gif

QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 25 2008, 09:48 AM) [snapback]500568[/snapback]
sorted as below ...

The best!
mortonjag 2008-08-25 10:21:22
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 25 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]500569[/snapback]
A Playtex bra won't stretch that far.

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It was also described as the Collie Bra-rounded them up and pointed them in the right direction.
mortonjag 2008-08-25 10:27:13
QUOTE(big B @ Aug 25 2008, 10:07 AM) [snapback]500578[/snapback]
Over to you Jim McColl according to to you at the Q&A session in Port Glasgow town hall this is your remit on the board so can you please answer the opening post.

Wrong forum!

QUOTE(Mags @ Aug 25 2008, 10:14 AM) [snapback]500581[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(big B @ Aug 25 2008, 10:07 AM) [snapback]500578[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Over to you Jim McColl according to to you at the Q&A session in Port Glasgow town hall this is your remit on the board so can you please answer the opening post.

Forgot about him....didn't know he was still involved with the youth set up.....if he ever was...!
Mags

Wrong forum again!

Perhaps Mr McColl is currently out of the country pursuing an answer to a question the Trust claims it asked a long time ago! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-25 10:38:39
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 25 2008, 10:29 AM) [snapback]500595[/snapback]
A Texan and his wife were on a trip to New York.

She had just finished showering to dress for dinner and noticed that she had neglected to pack her bra.

She asked her husband to go down to the dress shop in the lobby and pick up a couple of 38-C bras.

He said, "Ah'l go down raht now."

So he put on his ten gallon hat and went to the shop.

The saleslady said, "May I help you, sir?"

When he told her that he wanted two 38-C bras, she asked, "Would you like two Playtex?"

He answered, "Ah'd luv ta little lady, but mah wife's a'waitin fur me up in the room."

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I won't let the door hit my fanny on the way out.



I presume he then went West in the quest for the mighty braphor!
mortonjag 2008-08-25 10:44:40
QUOTE(leyTON @ Aug 25 2008, 10:33 AM) [snapback]500598[/snapback]
me and my mates were talkng about this.
if someone approached a medical proffesional and said, i have tehse feelings, i havent acted on them, i dont want to, please help me, what would the correct course of action be?

That's slightly simplistic. He'd presumably agree to be referred for psychological assessment. If a definite diagnosis of paedophilia was established, he could be offered a variety of treatments including hormonal therapy (chemical castration).
mortonjag 2008-08-25 10:52:42
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 25 2008, 10:41 AM) [snapback]500604[/snapback]
for those who remember Playtex ...
http://www.girdlezone.org/paleblue.htm

Sometimes, I think I've spent my life since then looking for the girl in the pale blue girdle.


Try Spoonsy!
mortonjag 2008-08-25 10:57:29
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 25 2008, 10:49 AM) [snapback]500607[/snapback]
I don't understand the gag. What has 1914 got to do with it? Did the Australians not fight along Great Britain in the war?
Can someone explain?

F*CK 1914


2008

WHERE ARE YOU SUN? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-25 11:04:01
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 25 2008, 10:34 AM) [snapback]500599[/snapback]
Perhaps he went to one of the many Ton youth matches instead ?

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Pittodrie?
mortonjag 2008-08-25 11:06:38
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 25 2008, 11:02 AM) [snapback]500617[/snapback]
Being well educated, doesn't make some one's thoughts on this subject correct unsure.gif

I have met many a well educated man, who thoughts on many a subject are up his anus

Educated arseholes? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-25 11:12:31
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Aug 25 2008, 11:08 AM) [snapback]500624[/snapback]
As Paedophilia is regarded by many medical experts to be an incurable illness there is only one option left and that’s the noose.

Hang every one of them high.
No f***ing about trying to dissect their warped mentality, attempting to cure them by cutting off parts of the anatomy or surgery on the brain, no torture beforehand just f***ing hang them.

Why the f*** should tax payers keep these b*****ds alive, I wish at times we lived in a more draconian society were it would be accepted that Paedophiles do not deserve to live.

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Ok Barbie-what's sauce for the goose-let's massacre every diabetic in the country and give the savings to Dougie Rae. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-25 11:15:16
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 25 2008, 11:13 AM) [snapback]500631[/snapback]
I like this attitude.
Am all for it. Hang the c***s

......draw the POUFFES and quarter the bi-sexuals! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-25 11:31:48
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 25 2008, 11:24 AM) [snapback]500650[/snapback]
Just shoot the pouffes.

Shotgun, pistol, Kalashnikov, cannon?
mortonjag 2008-08-25 14:31:13
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 25 2008, 10:22 AM) [snapback]500589[/snapback]
Gidday Spotty,

Why the use of the adverb ?

Are you trying to put MJ off the scent ?

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mortonjag 2008-08-25 14:38:05
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Aug 24 2008, 03:09 PM) [snapback]500230[/snapback]
£30 on petrol to Dundee? You driving a tank?? unsure.gif

With petrol at damned near a fiver a gallon that's 32m.p.g-- hardly gas guzzler stuff!
mortonjag 2008-08-25 14:45:16
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 25 2008, 02:34 PM) [snapback]500764[/snapback]
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I was using the concession gate as an example as to why your 'correct change machines' would not work. £9 is almost a tenner....9/10 people would turn up with a tenner if it was £9 to get in rather than have the correct change.

If you can't see that point then there is not much else I can say

Whether his idea would work or not I don't know Pugglet but your idea is typically woolly headed.

Give up the first twenty minutes-aye right-oh wait-you get a free pie and bovril-YUM YUM, AND a bag of Millions rejects and a copy of last week's left over programme signed by Cappie the Cat.

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mortonjag 2008-08-25 14:52:45
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Aug 25 2008, 02:42 PM) [snapback]500770[/snapback]
The facts you've used about the points garnered so far from four games out of thirty-six, compared to last season's tally after three, can't be argued with. It has been a disappointing start to the season in the league, but we've only played four matches. As has been pointed out, we've played three of the sides who are going to be up there challenging, St Johnstone, Livvy (yeah really) and Dundee. Morton handled themselves well against the Saints and were capable of drawing with the Lions in the second half, despite being mediocre and defending poorly!

To the attendances. Lets be honest here, nobody is interested in the Renfrewshire Cup Final as much any more, so I'm not going to count that, and Mr Rae shouldn't have read so much into it either IMO. So we are getting all gloomy over the attendances at two league matches. Calling it a crisis when August is still to be completed is a joke! We had two and a half thousand home fans at the Livingston match, definitely more than were at the St Johnstone match the previous week, their away support was about 400 and meant we had a higher overall attendance. I think Mr Rae is kidding himself if he thinks we will improve on that many times this year, 3500 is what we'll get at most if we hit midtable form. More if we draw a big team in the Scottish Cup. The finances of most people can't be stretched to paying £14-£16 to watch an average team right now, I think most hardcore fans accept that.

In my opinion, Irons will prove to be our best manager since Allan McGraw, if we give him time. I'm not saying several years, give him this season to show he knows how to take us up a few places from last year. I am confident we'll be sitting in 5th or 6th come the middle of May. He is capable of taking us on to the next level after that too, which is the top half of this division. Premier League football, is, at best, three years away for me.

It seems to be me that Mr Rae is flirting with the idea of pushing the Club in Alistair Donald's direction, but the guy isn't biting! He is here for at least another two or three seasons I reckon. He'll know how close we are to promotion in 2011 and only sell up if we win the final SFL title yet to be achieved with him as Chairman! He'll have taken us from the very bottom league to the very top league, he hopes and we hope!

It seems to me that perhaps Mr Rae 'has blown it' with Mr Donald who is now plainly disinterested and 'signed in' only when he could finally be arsed! I imagine he's just laughing quietly in the background as the old dodder digs himself deeper into his own s*** with every progressing week.

By the way BUG-how did the e-mail to the Tilly go?
mortonjag 2008-08-25 15:06:45
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Aug 25 2008, 02:40 PM) [snapback]500769[/snapback]
Mags, it's been said on here over and over and by Jim McColl himself, the manager is responsible for the youth setup.

So if people think the youth set up is rubbish they need to take it up with the man who is responsible, David Irons and before him Jim McInally.
Jim McColl looked after the youth budget and that was his only link to the youth set up.

Hey Measles-that's twice today you've pronounced on internal club affairs.

I have a question for you-well three actually:

When is your master going to publish a statement of intent?


When is Mr Donald going to reply to the Trust's letter?


Which do you prefer- Pedigree Chum, or Kennomeat?

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mortonjag 2008-08-25 15:10:31
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Aug 25 2008, 03:03 PM) [snapback]500776[/snapback]
Not heard anything back JAG, was hoping that at worst it would get cut heavily and the jist would appear in the Fans Forum! laugh.gif

Hmm-keep us posted-I certainly know of others who intend to write/have written about various issues. I sincerely hope Mr Rae endorses free speech! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-25 15:14:02
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 25 2008, 03:09 PM) [snapback]500778[/snapback]
Well I'm quite a woolly headed individual if I grow my hair out smile.gif
Did you read my post at all or just take the other guys? My example was a pie, bovril, a tenner and free entry to the game...not just a pie and bovril. Please read everything first before you go on your all so expected, yet never funny, sarcastic little diatribes. rolleyes.gif

I'm highly impressed with that young man!



Edit: Having read that again, it was still rather poor-I was initially taken in by the big words you've been learning. Watch out or the Viking will get jealous, and he's not a man to meddle with! laugh.gif

Tell me what age those greedy tenner mercenaries will be Puggs?

Remember that those days most folk under thirty can't count, let alone construct a decent sentence in their native tongue. mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-25 15:24:48
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Aug 25 2008, 03:17 PM) [snapback]500782[/snapback]
Colin Stewart is a s***e goalie. The problem is that Kevin Cuthbert is looking like he will be as well.

I'd much rather have the Lee Robinson that appeared towards the end of the season than either of them.



You may be correct. Why have we signed two sh*te goalies. Do goalies not count towards the small squad of quality players?
mortonjag 2008-08-25 15:36:30
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 25 2008, 01:13 PM) [snapback]500716[/snapback]
I would recommend JH Christ as a good joiner but he's probably more of a carpenter. Not sure if he's currently in Greenock but I believe if you call on him he will come.

I believe his father lives in the West end.
mortonjag 2008-08-25 15:38:16
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 25 2008, 11:45 AM) [snapback]500674[/snapback]
correctamundo

RIP

Oh Dear-our thoughts are with the family.
mortonjag 2008-08-25 15:40:21
QUOTE(Rossi @ Aug 25 2008, 12:26 PM) [snapback]500692[/snapback]
The point I was realy trying to make is that Salmond likes to jump on the back of a winning team. You can bet your bottom dollar that when Scotland's World Cup campiagn starts to faulter you won't see him within a mile of Hampden.

As for a Scottish team being able to put in a team of 90-100, I just can't see that happening. All sports have a qualifying standard that must be reached, although emerging nations are allowed the occassional athlete to participate.

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I'm sure Spurtle will vigorously deny that!
mortonjag 2008-08-25 15:45:00
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 25 2008, 11:27 AM) [snapback]500653[/snapback]
Shocking...
I wear my kilt with pride. I take it every arab is a tranny tae?

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I can just see you Sean-giving those POUFFE Dutch boys pelters in your skirt with furry purse!
mortonjag 2008-08-25 15:56:24
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Aug 25 2008, 12:10 PM) [snapback]500686[/snapback]
Unless its a diabetic Paedo, I suspect the diabetic is not commiting the most horrific crimes on those we are supposed to protect the most.

Hang them

Whom are we to hang-convicted paedos, self confessed non practising paedos, folk who happen to look like paedos?


QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 25 2008, 02:10 PM) [snapback]500750[/snapback]
Spelling was never my strong point, but who cares.

My point was, your views on such subjects are more likely to change once you have had kids. You may not believe it now, but I promise you, they will.

Annoying? I maybe, but so are you, its all down to points of view

You PROMISE Sean. I'm pretty certain that Paedos ARE somebody's kids, and a large percentage don't get involved in Glitter type depravity.

It's a psychological illness- a bit like wearing a tartan skirt and protesting homophobia! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-25 16:06:30
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Aug 25 2008, 03:56 PM) [snapback]500809[/snapback]
McGurn was a much better keeper than he gets credit for, and would have became an even better one under the tutelage of Wylie. Let's face it, if the Cat can make Robinson look half-decent, what could he do with a guy that was actually good to start with???
We desperately need another goalie, the last properly good one we had was Matt Boswell.

I never thought Davie McGurn was too bad. The rot started when Mathers arrived. I was happy to have an experienced goalie at the time, but McGurn never got back into the frame.

Robinson blew hot and cold-he was a bit of a showman who could make simple saves look world class-I NEVER had any confidence in his command of the box, or communication with defenders.
mortonjag 2008-08-25 16:22:56
QUOTE(cmdc @ Aug 25 2008, 03:57 PM) [snapback]500811[/snapback]
But football chairmen aren't anything like players and managers. It isn't as simple as one leaves and plenty more are out there waiting for their chance to take over. There are precious few people willing to invest in football and even fewer willing to pour their money benevolently into a black hole. Add to that we are a club of limited potential in a country whose football is hardly a wise investment, in the midst of what is a huge economic downturn.

To say 'time to go' to the Raes is meaningless unless there is an alternative option,
as there was when Wilson left, and again when Scott bailed.

That is true, and that is why I want to know where Alistair Donald fits the big picture. The Raes have never poured their money benevolently into a black hole. They have lent money to a club WITH POTENTIAL, and after seven years seem to have taken it as far as they can.

Furthermore, they have made no attempt to look at the long term viability of the club. What's the point in some Mickey Mouse share issue spread over five years when there is a pig headed refusal to entertain a proper youth policy?

OK-we still get to see football at Cappielow, and that is down to the Rae family.

IF there is a potential investor lurking, I believe there is no time like the present to encourage him, rather than frighten him off.

IF there is a potential investor lurking, Mr Rae should, IMO, quit when he's still up. The current trend of dropping crowds and increasing fan unease is a sure indicator that he's 'peaked'.

We have an important cup tie tomorrow night. We should all be buzzing, yet you can virtually hear a pin drop.

Why is that? I'm CERTAINLY not blaming the 'negativity boys'!
mortonjag 2008-08-25 17:07:16
QUOTE(TCox @ Aug 25 2008, 04:35 PM) [snapback]500831[/snapback]
Irons is the man. What degree of freedom he has to run the footballing side of the club effectivley is a question of more concern to me.

Why do you say that?
mortonjag 2008-08-25 17:15:50
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 25 2008, 05:10 PM) [snapback]500849[/snapback]
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That line line would be the "see you Jimmy" wig in my book.

Correct McArthur-a couple of thousand c*nts wanting to introduce 'Blind Date' just ain't funny at all.
mortonjag 2008-08-25 17:21:58
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 25 2008, 04:35 PM) [snapback]500830[/snapback]
Its very weird to read that bit, a guy planning to bomb Greenock, and the whole point of my thread.



If this guy is still alive I think we should have him extradited and roasted alive on a spit in the Bullring, to 'Theme from the Dambusters'.
mortonjag 2008-08-25 17:29:29
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 25 2008, 05:17 PM) [snapback]500854[/snapback]
Yup - good post.

How did you get on with the Nacho-hunt? laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-08-25 17:31:11
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Aug 25 2008, 05:23 PM) [snapback]500860[/snapback]
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I missed this, but I'm afraid I'm a one woman/man man and currently I have about 9 people after me.

About 10.
mortonjag 2008-08-25 17:56:48
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 25 2008, 05:48 PM) [snapback]500872[/snapback]
My point was if you'd lived through the blitz, you would gladly kick this guys arse.

Now twist it any way you want, that was the point. I would put £100 on the table that if the question was asked of 100 Greenockians the night after blitz, all would say yes.

Debate all you want the rights or wrongs of war, but if Peter Stahl jumped out his plane after blowing your maw and paw to bits, you'd do more than kick his arse

Sean, you're very angry about something those days! laugh.gif

I've often discussed the Blitz with my parents. By the time we were growing up they had already come to terms with 'the past' Some of the stories my Mum told me are harrowing-it would be easy to be bitter, but at the end of the day, Stahl was a young German serving his country to the best of his ability, just as our boys did ours.

That is all.
mortonjag 2008-08-25 18:02:40
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 25 2008, 05:58 PM) [snapback]500881[/snapback]
Just my usual grumpy self..it happens when you have teenage waines rolleyes.gif

I can fix them for you! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-25 18:12:06
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Aug 25 2008, 05:51 PM) [snapback]500874[/snapback]
Thats just f***ing daft, I have cleary said that Paedo's should be hung, not some c*** who is depressed.
Your first two would suffice, anyone convicted and any c*** who confesses.

Hang the high.

Do you profess that their 'disease' is curable? I think you know the answer to that one.

It's no more curable than, for example alcoholism.

Some of the crimes committed while under the influence of alcohol are pretty horrendous. In social terms the detrimental effects of alcohol abuse make paedophilia-real or imagined-pale into insignificance.

It's in us all to enjoy a witch hunt Barbie. Trouble is that witch hunts almost invariably scar the innocent and the guilty.

If an individual paedophile re-offends after refusing treatment, by all means mince him, can him , and send him to feed starving weans in wherever they're starving.

Please stop tarring all with the same brush-it's like saying that all football club chairmen are 77 year old blithering idiots.
mortonjag 2008-08-25 18:24:02
QUOTE(Ghost @ Aug 25 2008, 06:03 PM) [snapback]500885[/snapback]
MJ, my dad told me some stuff about Dunoon during the war, they used to find some amount of s*** washed up on the beaches etc. Think the bits ref taking the michael out of the local Bobby during the lights out was quite funny.

My Mum lived in Bawhirley Road then. The worst thing that happened was an incendiary bomb landing in their back garden. They got a helluva fright but were not cremated.

Can you imagine that nowadays-they'd all be off work for six months and referred for bloody counselling!

The whole tenement close next to my Uncle Jimmy's in Belville St. was blown to pieces one night. For years it was just a big gaping hole between the other closes and there was a bomb crater in the waste ground below. I used to go to Jimmy's for my tea before the Ton evening matches in the sixties and early seventies. He often talked about the war-there was sadness but never any bitterness.

....Those days are gone now, and in the past they must remain!
mortonjag 2008-08-25 18:26:54
QUOTE(stuart @ Aug 25 2008, 06:16 PM) [snapback]500890[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDYou can hardly make out the seagull sh*t all over them.
mortonjag 2008-08-25 18:34:30
QUOTE(Ghost @ Aug 25 2008, 06:26 PM) [snapback]500897[/snapback]
From what i was told, the kids used to search the beaches even though they were off limits. They were looking for bits from ships, planes that were shot down, tins of grub unopened etc. Said they had a great time when they were kids. They also watched the blitz ( my fathers side ) from across the river. At nights when the curfew or lights out was in operation they used to smother shop door handles in dogs s*** as the local bobby would go round every night checking everything was locked. Some kids also found boxes of grenades that had either fallen off a truck or just left behind by mistake by troops training etc. The only reason they were found out is when the local bobby went into Dunoon Grammar school asking where one of the grenades had went to, as they found the box but one was missing. One young lad aparently hid it in his dads piss pot under the bed laugh.gif

They were quite posh if they used chanties like the one below.

Most families just used a pail-what would now be described as a bucket (as per Oor Wullie).
mortonjag 2008-08-25 18:43:46
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 25 2008, 06:39 PM) [snapback]500903[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-08-25 19:10:15
QUOTE(Cawston @ Aug 25 2008, 07:00 PM) [snapback]500911[/snapback]
With the transfer window close to being wedged shut for another few months do you think we'll see some more activity at Scappa?

Ideal scenario is some headcase thinks McAnespie is worth a gamble and we ship him out, can't see it though.

Even if no-one is moved out I have a feeling we might still see 1 or 2 additions.

That would certainly lift flagging spirits.

I can't help feeling we're lumped with what we have till January.
mortonjag 2008-08-25 19:17:22
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 25 2008, 07:11 PM) [snapback]500918[/snapback]
I'll judge DI and DC at the end of the season. Not before.

This is more of a general point here......folk in football are too quick to judge managers these days (Spurs in crisis? aye right) and it's rarely done anyone any good. Of course there are examples when it becomes very clear very quickly that managers aren't suited to a club (Brian Clough at Leeds is a good example), but time has to be given for teams to take shape and settle in. I'll certainly be a lot more happy once DI and DC have fully made their own mark on the squad.

I just wonder if DDFR will be as patient with these two as he was with McInally.

That's the wrong way round! rip.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-25 19:20:12
QUOTE(Cawston @ Aug 25 2008, 07:17 PM) [snapback]500923[/snapback]
Listening to Irons it sounds like his hands are tied, however we've heard similar stuff coming from Sacppa at previous windows only to go and sign a couple of players at the last minute.

I also think the poor start in the league will have a few arses twitching.

Couple of full backs to boost the defence, or maybe a tried and tested striker would be good.

What I'd really like is someone with a bit of real quality. The type of player that makes other fans jealous.

Don't grow on trees I know but other teams seem to find them on occasion.

One tricky winger could make SUCH a difference.
mortonjag 2008-08-25 19:25:20
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 25 2008, 07:22 PM) [snapback]500929[/snapback]
Ian Russell played right wing for Dumbarton IIRC.

WTFIT?
mortonjag 2008-08-25 19:28:07
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Aug 25 2008, 06:06 PM) [snapback]500886[/snapback]
I included you, 9 it is.

You have a lovely poosy!
mortonjag 2008-08-25 19:50:30
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 25 2008, 07:28 PM) [snapback]500936[/snapback]
WIO.

EH?
mortonjag 2008-08-25 19:52:31
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Aug 25 2008, 07:30 PM) [snapback]500937[/snapback]
Eh, mods? I have sexually frustrated old guys trying to chat me up.

What's that got to do with Easter Road anyhow?!

I can see your poosy!
mortonjag 2008-08-25 20:03:56 Well-seriously, in fact-cup ties are MAD-no relationship to form.

Hibs 1 Morton 2.


C'MON YE TON

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mortonjag 2008-08-25 20:41:52
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 25 2008, 03:21 PM) [snapback]500783[/snapback]
60+ years on it means nothing to most youngsters. But I bet others old enough to witness the blitz would love to kick this guys asre
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Notes from his diary about the night to bombed Greenock...

“…at our briefing, Stoffregen himself arrives in person and explains our operational task. The target tonight, to start the new moon period is Greenock, an important naval port at the western exit of the Clyde in Scotland. Then follows the list of detailed crews: ‘Feldwebel Stahl will fly Dora because his own Casar with its special equipment is not suitable for this long trip.’ The estimated flying time is about six hours, quite a long stretch. We make our preflight preparations with accustomed care. Together with Hans, I work out the navigation calculations while Hein looks after his radio bits. Theo takes care of our provisions and checks the emergency and safety devices for all of us. With foresight and care, he has also organized himself a pneumatic cushion for the long flight. In a somewhat indifferent mood I strap myself into my parachute and my seat. As usual, Hans takes ages to force his tall frame up the small ladder and through the entry hatch. He always dawdles that long, apparently to have another reason to curse about “those idiotic people who built such an aircraft.” Hein on the other hand sings his usual “A man must travel time and again…” and sets my nerves on edge for the n-th time. He is in the habit of singing that inane “hit tune” every time we climb into our aircraft, then again just before we take off and once more when we are airborne. Phew! Only Theo is a stoic. I myself feel simply “itchy” and irritable. Everything seems to move far too slowly for my liking! Really we are all equally oversensitive and nervous and each one of us reacts according to his temperament…at long last! The control lamps light up, the instruments begin to register. “Port free!” The starter hums after I have pressed in the lever. Clutch in – the propeller turns over with a jerk. Red flames shoot out from the exhausts and then the 1,200 horses begin to move somewhat reluctantly. “Starboard free!” The starboard engine too begins to spit and then to run evenly. I give full throttle successively port and starboard to check the ignition and generators. Then in turn I check the oil pressure, oil and coolant temperatures, boost pressure, fuel pressure, hydraulic pressure, as well as the fuel and oil supply. Everything is in order – away with the wheel chocks! We roll out into the night to our take-off position. The searchlight briefly lights up our ground chief Romhild, waving his cap. The moon is already up and over the eastern horizon, a narrow sickle. Its light is still far too weak to be of any use. It is 20:35 hours when I taxi across the airfield towards the green lamps that indicate the beginning of the take-off runway. Just then the navigation lights of my predecessor whizz along the flare path, and I can follow right away. I am determined to use every metre of the take-off runway and park Dora way behind the first green lamp. I check everything once more, then: lock the tail wheel; flaps out 25 degrees; trim to ‘normal’ – all clear? “Let’s go!” I call out, and the customary reply comes back from the crew as always: “Let’s go!” For me it is the signal that everything is really in order on board. I slowly advance the throttle levers right to the stop and then let go of the brakes. Sparks shoot out of the exhaust stubs and the engines roar out. Dora begins to move forward with a powerful jerk. Hans lifts his left hand to indicate that ‘everything reads right’ and that the engines are running the way they should. The white lamps of the flare path are already whizzing past under the port wing…our take-off runway is 1400m long. It may seem a lot but it is not at all especially when one speeds along there at 200-220km/hr. The red lamps of the final 200m come nearer, steady…I pull the control column towards me, my trusty kite now wants to be free and away…I retract the undercarriage…we’re flying into the night, there are no lights of any kind near us only stars twinkling high above us. The dull glow of the instrument dials in our cabin are the only points we can fix our eyes on...we are carrying 1500kg bombs and 3600 litres of fuel. Our kite is loaded to the limit of what it can take…we set course for Greenock…Hans tries to pick the right radio station to determine our baseline, there is confusion from annoying squeaking from many other radio frequencies…the weather forecasts were wrong and we have to work out the necessary corrections…we climb to 3200m which is the height that the engines will run at their most economical…we should be over the target in 1 hour 50 mins… close to port there is ack-ack fire, that must be Hull. A bit further north search lights are drawing spots in the cloud beneath, that must be Newcastle. Sometimes ack-ack is a good thing as it always makes it easier for us to navigate. We fly over the East coast of Britain with good cloud cover. The countless searchlights indicate that we have reached land. Far ahead we can see a real fire dance with ack-ack explosions in the sky which must be the target area cause otherwise there is not much else north of the British Isles. Our Junker now has to reach an altitude of 4200m. The ack-ack fire is well laid as we can judge from the ack-ack flashing explosions appearing close to our Dora. The cloud cover below us is still unbroken and the searchlight activity underneath gives the impression of flying over a giant piece of frosted glass. Hans carries out another reverse calculation on his slide rule and confirms that we’re definitely over Greenock I have no choice but to drop my bombs blind. I try to read the fireworks once more to try to determine the approximate centre of the witches’ cauldron and then fly towards it and let my explosives fall. A few jerks confirm that the aircraft is free of our load. Bon voyage. A steep turn of 180 degrees in the middle of the fireworks and we set a new course for home. Soon we are enveloped in the peace and quiet of the Scottish highlands again. A short while later we are given navigational assistance by searchlights and ack-ack fire over Newcastle and Hull. Then it’s all dark beneath us over the north sea.”

I just noticed that the target highlighted in the map is now Mr Rae's sweetie factory!
mortonjag 2008-08-25 20:49:20
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Aug 25 2008, 08:34 PM) [snapback]500979[/snapback]
It is done ..... by First Touch who then 'feed' promising kids onto Morton FC at the P7 stage. Been happening for 2-3 years now. rolleyes.gif

I've noticed an improvement in the ball boys, Anus!

* Please note the comma and absence of apostrophe.
mortonjag 2008-08-25 21:32:46
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Aug 25 2008, 09:11 PM) [snapback]500994[/snapback]
My gripe is that the ones yelling at the previous (useless) manager seem to think that Irons is the bees knees - he is far from it.

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I haven't been reading much 'bees knees' stuff! I think many folk have praised him for the way in which he 'saved' us, and for the marked improvement in coaching-and quite rightly so.

Time will tell how good or bad he is in the Managerial function.
mortonjag 2008-08-26 07:29:37
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 25 2008, 10:27 PM) [snapback]501019[/snapback]
Yet the ones who were accused of a witchunt against JM are now the ones who are saying lets give these guys a fraction of the time awarded to McInally.

If that is so I hadn't clocked it Chrissiboi.

What I WOULD like to know, however, is the nature of the contracts DI/DC have.

I'm always willing to be patient to a point-I was with JM-but there comes a time with any manager when it is clear to all whether he's progressing or otherwise.

In that sense it's perfectly healthy to have all shades of perception at all stages of the exercise.
mortonjag 2008-08-26 07:39:24
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Aug 25 2008, 10:34 PM) [snapback]501024[/snapback]
Common knowledge Shipman, common knowledge not internal club affairs.

Q. When is your master going to publish a statement of intent?
A. I don't have a master, a mistress but not a master.
Q. When is Mr Donald going to reply to the Trust's letter?
A. You would need to ask Mr Donald that question, maybe he already has.
Q. Which do you prefer- Pedigree Chum, or Kennomeat?
A. Raw meat Shipman, I was raised on raw meat.

And to be honest, where I come from your just a p***y....meow....with cuddly toys as companions.

You have avoided the two questions I hoped you would answer. I'm very disappointed. Yesterday you PRONOUNCED that DI HAD been given a budget, and had 'BLOWN IT'. You claimed that Mr Rae had let him get on with it. Unless statements like those are made with insider knowledge, they are nothing but unhelpful speculation IMO.

I don't believe you anyhow.

'Raised on raw meat and you have a mistress'-obviously you're big Gillian's poodle! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-26 08:01:48
QUOTE(Tyrannous @ Aug 25 2008, 10:22 PM) [snapback]501016[/snapback]
I don't really see whats the big fuss about McAlister - does a fine job from where i've been standing for 3 or 4 years. Lets stick to our priorities and get in a real striker, what we have ins't even a good enough excuse!



QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 26 2008, 03:07 AM) [snapback]501090[/snapback]
If Spot Ton below is correct, nothing will happen until January


"I can tell you now Irons was given a budget and he was the one who blew it, for once DDFR stood back and let the manager do the job. Just a pity he made an arse of it because sadly DDFR will probably not allow that to happen again."

Measles has published a retraction of sorts claiming he's NOT an 'insider' and what he publishes is 'common knowledge'.

I have, however, worked out that he's Gillian Donaldson's poodle.
mortonjag 2008-08-26 08:09:16
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 25 2008, 11:02 PM) [snapback]501047[/snapback]
Is Perspective some Thai lassie? huh.gif
Bad taste?

Thai lassies don't have names like 'Perspective'-misinformation more than bad taste.

Nothing new there young man! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-26 08:20:14 Back at the ranch, Moira was preparing breakfast.

'Two eggs or three, Angel?', she asked, an edentulous smile lighting up her ageing features.

'I'll have three this morning Dear-oh, and by the way, you left your dentures under your pillow'.

'Silly me Angel- Soapy was in for a blow job while you were at Nicola's'!

'How much did you get this time Dear'?

'He said he'll see you about it Angel-something about a laundry-I don't understand those things'.
mortonjag 2008-08-26 08:28:01
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 26 2008, 01:21 AM) [snapback]501081[/snapback]
A celebrity plastic surgeon who received oral sex from a female patient before giving her a nose job is facing the sack.

Martyn Mendelsohn, who appeared on television program RPA, fronted the NSW Medical Tribunal yesterday to answer questions over the alleged professional misconduct relating to the incident in May 2005, The Australian reports.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=620784
I am sure that I am missing an obvious pun.

How would you like an umbilicus full of snotters?
mortonjag 2008-08-26 08:30:35
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 26 2008, 07:37 AM) [snapback]501101[/snapback]
... anything but.

However, I would suggest that predicting the possible attempted assassination of Obama is hardly rocket science.

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Do you have any of your agents working in Inverclyde?
mortonjag 2008-08-26 08:33:39
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 26 2008, 07:26 AM) [snapback]501099[/snapback]
The problem with conspiracy theories is that they can never be disproved.

Not a problem for the theorists!
mortonjag 2008-08-26 08:36:42
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 26 2008, 08:28 AM) [snapback]501112[/snapback]
misinformation or lack of a proper education ?

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Yes.
mortonjag 2008-08-26 08:39:15
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 26 2008, 08:04 AM) [snapback]501105[/snapback]
Are measles serious for a poodle ?

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Measles is his name Newt. He's actually a Dalmoodle, and is Gillian Donaldson's 'poodle'.
mortonjag 2008-08-26 08:48:31
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 25 2008, 11:05 PM) [snapback]501050[/snapback]
Terry Wogan finds him quite exciting actually

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mortonjag 2008-08-26 08:54:15
QUOTE(midTONs @ Aug 26 2008, 08:46 AM) [snapback]501120[/snapback]
I was not at the game due to circumstances beyond my control, I gave my tickets away but would have booed GSTQ if I was there so I'll throw in my tuppence.
1) I'm a republican so I'm not in favour of the monarchy.
2) I'm a nationalist so I'm against being forced to have an anthem which is clearly that of the country that is IMO is oppressing us
3) The anthem is anti Scottish, you cannot just take a verse out and say it never existed.
I think the truth behind that is that once Scotland is out the union 'our leader' will let the people decide is they want a republic or a monarchy, in anyways I vote SNP for one reason, I'm not in favour of all or even most of their policies, once Scotland is Independent then I will look at what all political parties have to offer and decide only then who gets my vote.
Having said that the SNP seem to be doing the best job by far of any of the parties in power so far.

You wouldn't say 'boo' to a goose! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-26 09:56:20
QUOTE(ton1901 @ Aug 26 2008, 09:00 AM) [snapback]501124[/snapback]
That was a sitter, he really should have done better

So far as I can see it, it's somewhat sad that you have to be dissecting games to identify two or three good chances which have been missed.

FAR more important is the fact that we have half decent strikers who WILL score goals if they get an even average number of 'strikes'.

That has not been the case. The supply has been abysmal, to the point where several of our goals have come from assists FROM another striker.

No wingers-no playmaker-no wing backs-and a long ball to Wakey sums it up for me! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-26 10:11:24 I can tell you now Irons was given a budget and he was the one who blew it, for once DDFR stood back and let the manager do the job. Just a pity he made an arse of it because sadly DDFR will probably not allow that to happen again.

I challenged the poster about the comment, and his reply was that it is 'common knowledge'.


DI certainly admitted he had to select a small squad of 'quality' players. He also commented that more money would not be available until we offloaded others.

To me that does not equate to having blown a budget while Mr Rae stood back and benignly watched it happen!

I'm slightly puzzled by the last sentence-are we to take it that Mr Rae will be signing the players again as he has done in the past?
mortonjag 2008-08-26 11:13:58
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Aug 26 2008, 10:21 AM) [snapback]501144[/snapback]
I had a nice bowl of chrunchy nut cornflakes for breakfast this morning, with ice cold milk, and a glass of orange juice.

Went down a treat smile.gif

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QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Aug 26 2008, 11:09 AM) [snapback]501169[/snapback]
That sounds good.

Try it with slices of banana and a few blueberries on top.
Sets you up for the day.thumbup2.gif

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mortonjag 2008-08-26 11:28:12
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 26 2008, 11:14 AM) [snapback]501174[/snapback]
I had a sausage roll from Greggs...fat bassa that I am! rolleyes.gif
Seriously though, did your question really merit a separate thread MJ?

I believe it did!

I sense that DI is already coming in for a fair bit of criticism-in my opinion perhaps a little early.

When somebody makes a bald statement- starting with 'I CAN TELL YOU' and suggests that Mr Rae is disenchanted with DI for 'blowing a budget' and 'making an arse of it' adding that he won't let it happen again' it sound like he's claiming inside information.

When I asked him to confirm that, he claimed it is common knowledge. OK-let's paraphrase.

MR RAE IS FURIOUS AT DI FOR BLOWING HIS BUDGET AND MAKING AN ARSE OF THINGS AND IN FUTURE WILL SUPERVISE HIS MANAGER'S DECISIONS.

I don't believe that is necessarily the case, and I CERTAINLY don't believe it's common knowledge.

So The Master already believes he's taken on another incompetent, does he, and he's going to take over just as he's done before-I hardly think so!


Clowns who prefer CHRUNCHY nut cereal and blueberries to legitimate questions are fortunately becoming thinner on the ground. Sycophancy is not, however, dead and buried. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-26 11:47:43
QUOTE(Cawston @ Aug 26 2008, 11:40 AM) [snapback]501199[/snapback]
Just the one? Pffft...lightweight tongue.gif

Forget your belly for a moment Cawstick and answer the question if you will! laugh.gif

Is it common knowledge that Mr Rae thinks DI has made an arse of things and feels he can no longer trust him?
mortonjag 2008-08-26 11:54:25
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 26 2008, 11:12 AM) [snapback]501172[/snapback]
Likewise had we defended set-pieces competently against Clyde and Dundee - not even taking the St Johnstone and Livingston gaffe-prone displays into account.
Rae's after match comments seemed to point the way - aiming for a clean sheet is a primary objective at this level - even if Newby and Russell can't find the net we still get a point.


I noticed Mr Rae was also on the pitch for about twenty minutes before kick of giving instructions to David Irons.
mortonjag 2008-08-26 11:58:40
QUOTE(TigerTon @ Aug 26 2008, 11:50 AM) [snapback]501212[/snapback]
doubt it, it let 2 hibees on to the course ph34r.gif

i believe it is classed as a real uni on this board....just biggrin.gif

It may be a 'real Uni', but is it a Proper University? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-26 12:01:13
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 26 2008, 11:56 AM) [snapback]501218[/snapback]
I'm sure we're thinking of two different people... rolleyes.gif

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I do hope things come good for Mr Rae tonight in the big Cup Tie-not often provincial clubs get into Europe!
mortonjag 2008-08-26 12:06:12
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Aug 26 2008, 12:00 PM) [snapback]501223[/snapback]
I think I'll have a Subway for my lunch. Probably a 6" Italian bread Reggie Reggie Chicken .

Do you think it is 'common knowledge' that Mr Rae believes DI 'blew the budget', 'made an arse of it', and 'won't be trusting his Manager' with future signings Mr Connell?

mortonjag 2008-08-26 12:16:44
QUOTE(TigerTon @ Aug 26 2008, 12:04 PM) [snapback]501231[/snapback]
potentially, but it let me in, so I'm sure it is borderline at best.

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mortonjag 2008-08-26 12:27:51
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Aug 26 2008, 12:14 PM) [snapback]501239[/snapback]
or maybe I'll just have a salad box from the Deli.

Sorry, do you have a point to this thread or do you just like to show off that you know my name?
Well done.

Why are you sorry?

Of course there's a point to the thread as anybody with a modicum of intelligence can see. Shall I spell it out for you?

A statement of apparent FACT was made which showed our Manager up in a poor light, and implied that in future the Chairman would not entrust him with signings.

I believe any true fan should have noted that with interest, especially with the recent record of incompetent Management and apparent Chairman signings.

I genuinely invited the poster to confirm it as fact, whereupon he stated that 'it is common knowledge'.

The POINT of my thread was to establish whether or not that is the case, as I've not so far heard it claimed on this massage board.

Is Connell really your name? It's just that I once knew a guy with a passion for banana and blueberry on his CHRUNCHY nut cornflakes, and I seem to recall he was a Connell, though it may well have been McConnell (another joke)!
mortonjag 2008-08-26 12:41:03
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Aug 26 2008, 12:32 PM) [snapback]501251[/snapback]
Why do you keep spelling crunchy like that? mellow.gif

Is that the wrong way! Not according to the poster who got your salivary glands working overtime. I just assumed it was a statement of fact.

Let's face it we should apparently accept apparent statements of fact without question. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-26 12:44:35
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 26 2008, 12:04 PM) [snapback]501230[/snapback]
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Anyway-back to the thread. It's apparently common knowledge that Mr Rae is blazing at DI for blowing the budget and making an arse of things, so I doubt that we'll see any more signings this month.
mortonjag 2008-08-26 12:48:12
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Aug 26 2008, 12:44 PM) [snapback]501258[/snapback]
[codebox]Oh no, I thought it was you who had misspelled it.
I'm so sorry.[/codebox]

laugh.gifThat's ok don't mention it. smile.gif

Fair enough smile.gif

Do you think it's common knowledge that Mr Rae is furious with DI for blowing the budget and making an arse of things? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-26 12:51:19
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Aug 26 2008, 12:46 PM) [snapback]501260[/snapback]
Raw meat for me followed by a little fishing with my hook line and sinker laugh.gif

Fraid that won't do Measles. You have 'previous'!

Feel free to publish a retraction. 'Conscience doth make cowards of us all'!
mortonjag 2008-08-26 12:54:08
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Aug 26 2008, 12:50 PM) [snapback]501267[/snapback]
Why did you add a smilie to my quote?

Why will you not answer the question?
mortonjag 2008-08-26 12:56:49
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 26 2008, 12:53 PM) [snapback]501272[/snapback]
This isn't the Sunday Post, you know. wink.gif rolleyes.gif

Do you think it's common knowledge That Mr Rae is furious with DI for blowing the budget and making an arse of things? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-26 13:01:42
QUOTE(Bryan @ Aug 26 2008, 12:49 PM) [snapback]501265[/snapback]
he talks to the manager before every game i doubt he is giving him instructions.

I agree-I believe the old fud is just milking the imaginary limelight as usual.

QUOTE(Bryan @ Aug 26 2008, 12:52 PM) [snapback]501271[/snapback]
the facts are the he has a biggest budget of any manager under the current chairman, and irons used it the way he saw fit. i doubt anyone knows if Mr Rae is unhappy at how he spent it out with him or the manager.

Except Measles-Gillian's Dalmoodle turned angler! bag.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-26 13:07:49
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Aug 26 2008, 01:00 PM) [snapback]501279[/snapback]
No retraction Shipman, I just forgot that you only inhabit this small Morton community. It must be galling to find out you don't know everything and your not always right after all.

Go give the monkey a jag in the arse Shipman for not being properly informed and put it out of it's misery.

Good. We can now debate your statement of 'FACT'.

It's interesting that you appear to regard the Cappielow Clique as being on a higher plane than this 'small Morton community'.

His Master's Voice indeed.

Run along now-worms are to be dealt with today.
mortonjag 2008-08-26 13:11:03
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Aug 26 2008, 01:06 PM) [snapback]501290[/snapback]
laugh.gif Look at you getting all excited about this. laugh.gif

Here's your answer.

No one knows what goes on between Manager and Chairman and I dont care what is or isn't "common knowledge" or hear say for that matter.

I reckon you could be doing with finding yourself a hobby don't you?

Thank you!

QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 26 2008, 01:07 PM) [snapback]501291[/snapback]
Looks like you're not getting any answers. Maybe it's the way you're wording it, try again. smile.gif

What is yours-or are you just a fence sitter who gets his rocks off by taking pots at folk who dare to ask questions? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-26 16:01:31
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 26 2008, 01:32 PM) [snapback]501304[/snapback]
No doubt DDFR is still huffing about JM going ?

Dougie he has a fantastic record in the transfer market .

I thought we used to be told that it was the managers decision who was signed and that DDFR didn't take to do with it ?

Enjoy your lunch at the sycophants society make sure you don't choke on your words .

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Maybe I was wrong to ask a question Chrissiboi! dry.gif

Mortonjag was a wee bit concerned that things might already be so bleak behind the scenes. After all Mr Rae told us we'd be THRILLED with his new management team who would be 'here for a long time to come', and now it appears that DI has 'made an arse of it', 'blown the budget', and that Sugar Daddy 'won't let it happen again'. unsure.gif

Mortonjag once asked a question about Alistair Donald. The denizens of Plankton Pond thought they'd have a field day at the Jag's expense on that occasion too! laugh.gif

IMO those who attempt to muffle legitimate questions are either immature children who DON'T have the club's true interests at heart, or bitter representatives of the Cappielow Mafia.

Why has nobody come out in defence of/support of David Irons?

Was he indeed the man who offered crazy contracts to existing players with Mr Rae smiling on benignly? Maybe he HAS made a complete arse of a budget. He had, after all, experience of Mileson's overflowing benevolence. Did he just think it would be easy to 'beef up' the squad and 'Hey Presto'?

JM was a Muppet-putty in Rae's grasping old mits. DI is a different kettle of fish.

Could it be that he cleverly made GOD think he was making all the decisions, while spending the dosh as he chose, and that GOD's nose is now in a poke at dropping crowds and miserable results?

Mortonjag had already been asking himself those questions, when along trotted Gillian's 'poodle' with all the 'answers'-'answers' which when challenged, he yelps defiantly are 'common knowledge'!


ARE THEY!

When will DI be sacked? I really want to know the answer. He's apparently displeased his Master, something JM was sleekit enough to avoid. Worse-he's seemingly wasted the Master's MUNNY-a crime surely deserving of death. The master and MUNNY are not easily parted.

I reckon he'll be 'oot the door' by Christmas-don't you! rolleyes.gif

In fact I'd say it's COMMON KNOWLEDGE! smile.gif




mortonjag 2008-08-27 13:08:26
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 27 2008, 03:35 AM) [snapback]502120[/snapback]
Or he went to buy some Quink ?

Do they still make it ?

Quink is still the world's biggest selling pen ink in this millennium. According to fountain pen enthusiasts, Parker Quink is generally considered to be so-called "safe fountain pen ink". This means it should not stain or clog fountain pens very easily. However, the use of fountain pens gradually fell out of favor over the second half of the 20th century. In fact, the manufacture of the Parker 51 ink was phased out in the UK in 1972 and the US in 1978. But the legend of the Parker 51 still lives on, with a large worldwide network of collectors and enthusiasts who still use these vintage pens today. In fact, in 2002 Parker introduced a limited edition of Parker 51 revival pens. As part of the revival, Parker emphasised the value of using their own quick-drying ink as the perfect partner for the Parker 51, a classic of engineering and design. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-27 13:38:07
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 26 2008, 07:17 PM) [snapback]501449[/snapback]
I just find it strange that some of those who were practically crying along with Dougie at the departure of McInally are now the ones shouting about this percieved rift .

The question was about SpotTon 's statement , would you ignore an inaccurate statement about the club . All I want to know is if it is a wind up fair enough although unhelpful .

Correct and Measles made no bones from the word go that he thought DI/DC were a 'panic buy' while claiming that JM was forced out by the 'boo boys'. Measles doesn't do 'wind ups' Chrissiboi, though he pontificates long and hard about 'The Devil we Know', his inside knowledge of the youth set up, and the need for the fans to have a voice by buying SHARES. He's never forgiven Mortonjag for asking questions of the beloved Trust-that's his real agenda-he HATES criticism of an organisation that's run like a knitting bee and which,after almost two months, still awaits an answer to a question it claims to have put to Alistair Donald! A shower of weans playing 'investor' if ever I saw it.

Anyway-it's great to see that having 'made an arse of it, blown the budget, and upset the Master, DI did the Ton mighty proud last night. Mr Rae will hopefully pick up lots of lovely MUNNY from a decent draw, and DI (whom Measles confidently predicted would be out the door at the end of the season if he failed to produce) will be granted a stay of execution! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Over to you Measles! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-27 18:33:58
QUOTE(mccaff @ Aug 27 2008, 01:53 PM) [snapback]502367[/snapback]
3 pages an no one has actually said anythin

Not QUITE true!

Do you think it's OK for yet another anonymous poster to claim inside information simply for the sake of riding his own hobby horse?

Spot Ton apparently resents David Irons for some reason. Just before our crucial cup tie last night, he effectively tried to mock the Manager, claiming that he'd 'blown the budget, made an arse of things, and had incurred Mr Rae's wrath to such an extent that 'it wouldn't happen again'.

He previously made it clear that he didn't like the appointment (a panic buy according to him) in the first place.

Mortonjag reckons Measles is pursuing an agenda against DI. Measles is pretty self satisfied if he thinks he can rubbish our Manager FOR PERSONAL REASONS. 'Up his own arse', is the popular description. I'd add 'scum' for people who abuse privileged information for their own ends. We've had a few recently! ph34r.gif

There was PLENTY said mccaff-plenty said by the usual arseholes who don't believe in questions! Much easier to behave like the brain dead pond life they aspire to and have a jab at the Jag! laugh.gif

Spot Ton may of course identify himself, and produce documentation to prove his selfish allegations and apparent attempt to besmirch DI's character! dry.gif

He won't, though in typical Rae 'bring a friend' fashion, he may exhort you to Join the Trust. He believes that buying SHARES speaks FAR louder than asking questions-even when the requisite 10% for a hopeful squeak is pie in the sky! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


CORRECT EH Measles? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-27 18:36:52
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Aug 27 2008, 06:22 PM) [snapback]502544[/snapback]
Davie Irons has more money to spend but to bring in players of the calibre that would improve the team he needs to get rid of the non-playing wage suckers, if he is desperate then Dougie will free up the funds to complete the transfer. There is NO problem between the manager and club concerning transfers but Irons has been informed that the club is currently running at a loss and cannot afford to be spending money on bench warmers. I hope this has answered your question mortonjag, if you need any more questions answered along the lines of this then feel free to post them here and i will endeavor to bring you the facts.

Thank you Doc.

How do you explain SpotTon's allegations?
mortonjag 2008-08-27 18:51:59
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Aug 27 2008, 06:41 PM) [snapback]502556[/snapback]
Irons has brought in a few players of a calibre that will improve the team. Paartalu, Shimmin, Masterton for example. We've played four f***in' league games. Anybody who was able to make it to Easter Road last night will have seen what this side is capable of, anybody who couldn't make it or chose not to go will see the fire Morton displayed last night repeated on Saturday, I'm sure of it.

We all have theories about what is and isn't going on, and who is and isn't responsible for our poor start in the league, but lets get behind the team. Put grumbles aside!

Wait until a credible amount of matches have passed, double figures at least? Meaning we have displayed the same league form for another six matches from now, which we probably won't! Then, and only then, is it just verging on the not so ridiculous to start debating why something we supposedly all care about is, even though it probably isn't, home to the biggest amount of in-fighting since the Spanish Civil War.

In truth its all melodramatic pish IMO and it is damaging the way we support our team. Support Morton and moan if there is actually something catastrophic going on! Right now, we have two points out of four, in a season of thirty-six. We've just dumped Hibernian out of the league cup in style and we have seen a classy performance from the team. The potential has been realised. Now we move forward. Hawd yer wheesht and get behind the team, that means you Mortonjag! dry.gif



How did you get on with your letter to the Tilly?

I'm still hoarse today! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-27 19:36:55 Holyrood! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-27 19:48:49 I also thought Jimbo was outstanding-where has he been for so long? Once he learns to shoot he'll become lethal.

Iain Russell hopefully shut a few mouths. Immense composure for that vital penalty and a peach of a STRIKER'S goal from -wait for it- a through ball!!

My MOTM-Wakey by a country mile. He took on the target man role against an SPL side and did the work of two men. The guy is utterly fearless!

Cuthbert-very solid last night.

Oh and Masty finally proved he CAN do what he was signed for!
mortonjag 2008-08-27 20:03:41
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Aug 27 2008, 07:57 PM) [snapback]502609[/snapback]
The whole team were excellent last night; the only exceptions would be Russell and McAlister: they were even better!

Both players were given pretty much free rein and drifted here there and everywhere, but always to good effect. Both tracked back as well when required.

Can anyone shed any light on the formation last night?!!
There seemed to be a few man-mark jobs on the go, but other than that it was pretty bizarre, but it worked!

I have it on good authority that it was called the 'Get into thae c*nts' formation

Worked a treat too! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-27 20:08:36
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Aug 27 2008, 08:02 PM) [snapback]502614[/snapback]
I wouldn't get paranoid - i think it's more that it's the diddy cup to be honest.

And the Alba Cup will be the Diddy, Diddy cup-or Ultimo Trophy!

Partick did well out of the Diddy Cup last year!
mortonjag 2008-08-27 20:15:00 Nothing can overshadow the win for me.

Maybe that's because I don't do 'bragging rights'.

It was a fantastic performance and the result speaks for itself.
mortonjag 2008-08-27 21:35:31
QUOTE(midTONs @ Aug 27 2008, 05:57 PM) [snapback]502519[/snapback]
Your not a homosexual by any chance are you?

I don't like homosexuals, I'm about the only board member who openly admits to being homophobic.


POUFFE

QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 27 2008, 08:30 PM) [snapback]502633[/snapback]
Think I'd rather be homosexual.

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QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Aug 27 2008, 08:52 PM) [snapback]502645[/snapback]
Welcome aboard Wanderton! Just refuse to be drawn into any of MortonJag's sh*te and you should be fine! laugh.gif

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QUOTE(Deego @ Aug 27 2008, 08:54 PM) [snapback]502647[/snapback]

f*** OFF AND DON'T COME BACK.

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Welcome aboard and having wanderton just listen to old Jaggy and your wandering days will be over!
mortonjag 2008-08-27 21:43:29
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Aug 27 2008, 09:13 PM) [snapback]502658[/snapback]
Seriously, it is completely different. I was commenting about our achievement being lost in the ref talk, which to an extent it has.

Our achievement is recorded for posterity, and will be all the more significant if we can keep the momentum going in the next round.

It was a fantastic performance. I got home just after midnight and lay awake for a couple of hours just reliving it!

Bit of a 'come down' today with the realisation that it's back to the drawing board on Saturday.

Football's a funny old game. 90% of posters perhaps imagine it's a foregone conclusion against Airdrie, but it has to be 'one game at a time'.
mortonjag 2008-08-27 21:52:13
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 27 2008, 08:46 PM) [snapback]502643[/snapback]
Football is the opium of the people.

Taken over from religion Marxy?
mortonjag 2008-08-27 22:00:49
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 26 2008, 02:01 PM) [snapback]501320[/snapback]
Correct, hang the c***s.

If it is an illness it one sure way of wiping it out ph34r.gif


Bollocks!
QUOTE(Toby @ Aug 26 2008, 02:57 PM) [snapback]501351[/snapback]
Obviously a few of us know about certain examples of folk close to home, and as someone who doesn't have kids of their own I'm not too sure how relevant my views on them are.

However, when I was a kid in the 80s and 90s at the Boys Brigade, there was one officer there who was a truly despicible character. I just didn't like him, and am still sick of the mere thought of him. My parents were members of the local Church of Scotland, and in good faith sent my two brothers and I to the BBs.

However, about 5 years ago a story appeared on the front of the local paper about how this guy had been convicted and sentenced to 3 years in Greenock, coincidentally. This for crimes committed in the 60s and 70s, before we were even born and when he was in his late teens and early twenties. Not even at the point you'd have decribed him as a depraved old man, when he should've been in the prime of his life.

We were obviously very lucky nothing happened to us, but I'll certainly never send any kids I have to the BBs having seen my mum's reaction at the time. Clearly she felt she was doing right by her sons to a reputable organisation when infact we were put under incredible risk through no knowledge of her own.

It'll probably be on my mum's conscience until the day she dies and for that, for all I could try to be fairly liberal about it, if I ever saw the b*****d now I'm an adult I shudder to think what I'd do.

Illness or no illness, it's totally incomparable to depression or OCD, which only directly affects the sufferer.

Far too simplistic Toby, and don't forget that Carstairs is full of paranoid schizophrenics!

QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Aug 27 2008, 11:57 AM) [snapback]502285[/snapback]
Aye, alcohol makes people commit the most horrendous crimes, but Paedo's do not require to be under the influence of anything to commit their own brand of despicable crimes.

IF a paedophile re-offends. One offence is enough in my eyes and rehabilitation should not be an option. Minced immediately.

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mortonjag 2008-08-28 07:37:56
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Aug 27 2008, 10:04 PM) [snapback]502717[/snapback]
Aren't we all! Make yourself hoarse against Airdrie United too! Unity is what will get this season for Morton up and running!

Doesn't seem like its going to get published, letters appear at the Editor's discretion so I'm told! rolleyes.gif

I'm genuinely sorry about your letter. It must have crossed your mind that the Editor may not wish to offend the powers that be!

'UNITY'-that's an emotive word which is as apposite to Greenock Morton as 'democracy' was to Nazi Germany. (whatever made me think of that analogy? laugh.gif )

What sort of 'unity' do you think is most likely to 'get us up and running'? The biggest problem for the Ton right now will not be solved by rose tinted visions of a unified body of happy clappers. Unity will come when the Club wants the fans to become an integral part. So long as the club deliberately perpetuates the current 'divide and rule' policy, we WILL remain divided, and we WILL continue to knock lumps out of each other on this massage board.

Do YOU think that accusing our Manager of blowing his budget, making an arse of things and incurring the Chairman's displeasure-that just before a crucial Cup Tie-was a unifying gesture? dry.gif


QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Aug 28 2008, 03:41 AM) [snapback]502821[/snapback]
Feel free to dismiss what you will, but the fabricated dialogue I proposed is exactly what will happen if any of MJ's inital post is correct.
Also, Bug: Unity won't "get this season up and running". Previously, I've called our squad "spineless", an allegation to which the manager has agreed...well, his words were something about "not accepting responsibility". What will get us up and running is players who have the mentality to walk on to the pitch and kick opponents about the place, guys who are willing to take a wee touch of the ball and hit a pass. Bravery and a back-bone will take us forward, not a bunch of chancers who decide that it might be worth the effort to actually play against a half-decent team whenever they fancy it.

One crucial difference between JM and DI is that the former was spineless and couldn't have motivated a hypermanic jumping bean on speed. I don't believe DI is the finished article by any means, and I'll pass judgement as time goes by-NOT at the end of the season! (That latter philosophy would have had us relegated last time!!!) rolleyes.gif

I have not been overly impressed by results so far. I believe he's cobbled together a very incomplete squad with limited options. On Tuesday night, however, those boys showed that they can produce AND entertain when they want to, and I'm hopeful that we now may go on a good run.

Perhaps Measles' post was just the subtle dig in the ribs that DI needed. Perhaps Measles knew that.

If so we have lots to thank the spotty dog for!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-28 08:14:03
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 28 2008, 12:17 AM) [snapback]502779[/snapback]
My grandfather bought me a Parker 51 in 1964.

But, sadly, I lost it at university in the early 1970s.

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One hopes the proper pen was lost in a proper institution.
mortonjag 2008-08-28 08:17:22
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 28 2008, 07:53 AM) [snapback]502835[/snapback]
Gidday MJ,

well, our league start has clearly been poor.

With our form against Hibs and Airdrie's form against Hearts, Saturday will be a turning point.

Things are undoubtedly looking better.

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Perhaps Measles knew that.

I am sorry, MJ, but I am not sure that Spotty knows anything.

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He seems to know lots about SHARES!

QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 28 2008, 08:03 AM) [snapback]502836[/snapback]
Gidday mccaff,

Could that be due to Spotty's failure to clarify his claims ?

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Maybe he's in the dog house!
mortonjag 2008-08-28 08:24:08
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Aug 28 2008, 03:52 AM) [snapback]502823[/snapback]
Whats this "money-spinner" talk all about???
So much for Morton being a club of ambition. I want ICT at Cappielow, since they are the easiest draw that we can get, apparently.
Anyone who wants a "lucrative" draw over a winnable one is having a laugh. I would give a hundred 3rd round ties against the OF for the chance of progressing. We haven't had a respectable cup run for almost a decade now, whilst we have sat and watched teams no better than us playing in Europe, namedly Gretna and QotS.
So what if we can't make Europe through the CIS? GMFC achieving a bit of credibility and respect after god knows how long of embarrassing ourselves is worth so much more than a cup draw against a team we will most likely get hammered by.

That's the ideal scenario. We're so used to getting humped at this stage of competitions that I'd rather take a beating from one of the OF along with plenty of MUNNY than go out ignominiously with little return.

IF you can guarantee that we'll progress-by all means! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-28 08:32:24
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 28 2008, 01:37 AM) [snapback]502800[/snapback]
Ooooh I'm staying away from this tongue.gif
Random thoughts though:

Liverpool were sh1te tonight
Its dead smothery rain (as I just walked in it)
Toast is good

Random thought.

Pity it didn't work.
mortonjag 2008-08-28 08:35:35
QUOTE(Stuart Duncan @ Aug 27 2008, 09:19 PM) [snapback]502661[/snapback]
Can I just add to that, I think I'm right in saying that you were asking for very little in return?

Aren't you normally spot on?
mortonjag 2008-08-28 08:46:53
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 28 2008, 08:26 AM) [snapback]502845[/snapback]
He seems to know lots about SHARES!

OK, MJ, I'll bite.

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Is SHARES a brand of dog food ?

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Here's what Measles said:

'If you really want to make a difference at any club you need SHARES, as many as you can possibly get your hands on.
Joining the Trust makes more sense to me. They purchase SHARES and the more they get their hands on the stronger they become. It just makes so much sense to me.'


Newt-why don't you spend that money Rae knocked back, on the Trust?

With an extra £20,000 worth of shares, surely they'd become strong enough to get a reply from Mr Donald! ph34r.gif


mortonjag 2008-08-28 08:54:35
QUOTE(cowshed_agro08 @ Aug 27 2008, 07:41 PM) [snapback]502600[/snapback]
aye well look wit the big man did last nite then wat a goal well done big man he needed it tae get everywan aff his bk

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The 'big man'-are you vertically challenged?

Masty's goal was a screamer-I agree-WELL DONE!
mortonjag 2008-08-28 09:18:21
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 28 2008, 09:09 AM) [snapback]502863[/snapback]
Gidday MJ,

For some strange reason I doubt that Mr Donald's reply would be worth £20 let alone £20,000.

I think it is fair to suggest that recent events or lack thereof, show where the Trust sits in the view of Sugar Rae and Mr Donald.

Sad but true, IMHO.

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Here's another of Measles' sayings:


'A really strong Supporters' Trust would make a far greater impact at Cappielow than any one owner'.



I think Measles may have been quite a deluded wee pooch when he said that-don't you Newt? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-28 09:31:48
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 28 2008, 09:23 AM) [snapback]502865[/snapback]
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgo...est/7584450.stm

Gidday David,

Is it not more than just a problem of poverty ?

"But I believe that advertising for alcohol and junk-food should also be tackled."

Dr Jamieson said these multi-million pound industries were giving people "false information" about products which are detrimental to their health.

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By coincidence (??) the following is a news report today on the push against junk food here in Oz.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=622360b




Sweeties have been good for Morton-at least in the short term. I hope the Club's life expectancy is greater than the Calton boys.
mortonjag 2008-08-28 09:34:10
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Aug 27 2008, 05:53 PM) [snapback]502515[/snapback]
I never answer. If it's something important they'll usually leave a voicemail anyway.

Precisely what I do.
mortonjag 2008-08-28 09:37:18
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Aug 27 2008, 10:25 PM) [snapback]502734[/snapback]
'Tucked in' never mind 'lived in'

Looks like you could get a fair few burgers out of that!

Complete with ketchup?
mortonjag 2008-08-28 09:41:42
QUOTE(northseaton @ Aug 28 2008, 09:31 AM) [snapback]502866[/snapback]
With the transfer deadline bieng extended to the 1st September and with it coinciding with the draw for the next round of the cup could we see someone being lined up should we be given a favourable financial draw.

Personally I would like to see a centre forward as neither of ours are IMHO 20 goals a season men but equally a full back would be nice. On Tuesday night when the Hibs subs came on down both flanks we were so pedestrian it was untrue.

If Mixu`s finishing 11 had started the game we would have been roasted. Irrespective im still on a high and haven`t enjoyed a game so much in a long time.

Why don't we sign players who can supply our strikers better? I'd settle for twelve apiece from Russell, Wakey, and Newby plus the inevitable strikes from midfielders.
mortonjag 2008-08-28 10:21:02
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Aug 28 2008, 10:09 AM) [snapback]502879[/snapback]
Fair enough MJ, can you follow up by suggesting who you would sign if you were in DI's shoes.

I would agree we need a bit more creativity and service but who is available within our means?

As a physician I'm well acquainted with accurate diagnosis and ignorance of an available cure.
mortonjag 2008-08-28 10:34:52
QUOTE(ShimminTon @ Aug 26 2008, 11:04 AM) [snapback]501165[/snapback]
Count me in TID. wink.gif

Fifteen posts including this gem of open mindedness and tolerance!


I've checked that thread twice over and couldn't see anything wrong. Mr Newall at it again rolleyes.gif

First time I've voted against anybody joining the Jessie Boys-Shimmin-but I reckon you've a lot of growing up to do-and by the way-Mortonjag has NO enemies on that forum-we're all happy bum chums.
mortonjag 2008-08-28 10:38:04
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Aug 28 2008, 09:53 AM) [snapback]502874[/snapback]
mayonaisse if yer lucky

Brown sauce if less so.
mortonjag 2008-08-28 10:43:30
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 28 2008, 10:16 AM) [snapback]502880[/snapback]
Are sweeties included in "junk food" ?

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Junk food is food that is unhealthy and/or has little or no nutritional value. The term is believed to have been coined by Michael Jacobson, director of the Center for Science in the Public Interest, in 1972. The term has since come into common usage.

I'd suggest that sweeties fill the bill Newt, though we could argue about 'food' or 'fad'.
mortonjag 2008-08-28 10:50:14 Not huge, but a nice wee article about Ryan's history as a lifelong 'Jambo' and Hibees 'reject' who previously was in the Livi Cup winning squad.

Just shows what a wee bit of success can do for publicity.
mortonjag 2008-08-28 10:57:58
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Aug 28 2008, 10:32 AM) [snapback]502888[/snapback]
There's a lot more risk involved in getting a cure wrong, than just backing up your suggestion with a possible solution on a message board. Where's the big risk in that?

It's not my job to trawl the ranks of Scottish football DOT. We could do with two decent wing backs, a creative midder, and at least one tricky winger. That's my projected cure. Are you telling me those people don't exist, or just that we can't afford them.

Pity we can't 'go private' and get Mr Donald to foot the bill! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-28 11:00:08
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 28 2008, 10:28 AM) [snapback]502886[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-08-28 11:04:01
QUOTE(Alibi @ Aug 28 2008, 10:25 AM) [snapback]502885[/snapback]
I think you mean "opiate"...

I think he sees footie fans as POUFFES
mortonjag 2008-08-28 11:18:15
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Aug 26 2008, 01:00 PM) [snapback]501279[/snapback]
No retraction Shipman, I just forgot that you only inhabit this small Morton community. It must be galling to find out you don't know everything and your not always right after all.

Go give the monkey a jag in the arse Shipman for not being properly informed and put it out of it's misery.

Almost 48 hours now Measles!

Did the Embra Polis bang you into quarantine as a public nuisance.

No retraction of your attack on the Manager.

Big Doc says you're a 'liar'.

Is Big Doc not properly informed?

BTW the monkey says you're a scabby bitch! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-28 11:27:01
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Aug 28 2008, 11:14 AM) [snapback]502909[/snapback]
MENTALJAG IN SUN READER SHOCKER

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Keeley's on page 3 again!
mortonjag 2008-08-28 12:48:48
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Aug 28 2008, 10:51 AM) [snapback]502897[/snapback]
I actually got a reply which they took in good humour:

Not sure if you are making a serious enquiry or just taking the mick, I'll assume the former.

These are supplied by the sponsors, Co-Operative Insurance, who will also supply a full-page advertisement for your programme - both pages are part of the League contract with the sponsors for the competition.

We wiz robbed by the way ohmy.gif)

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Refreshing to see graciousness in defeat-a RARITY ON THIS MASSAGE BOARD! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-28 13:01:39
QUOTE(Mr Toon @ Aug 28 2008, 12:27 PM) [snapback]502954[/snapback]
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The 'big man'-are you vertically challenged?

6'1" and 14+ stone (Morton web-site) is "big" in my eyes, certainly compared to some of the light-weights we've had in the midfield in recent years.

But after that goal the phrase "if you're good enough, you're big enough" certainly applies so whether actually or metaphorically; "Well done the big man".

I prefer to use my eyes-he's NEVER 6'1"! Wiki has him at 6'0" and I don't believe that either!!!

The 'big man' is Pantaloons surely.
mortonjag 2008-08-28 13:07:13 How was said bus identified. It wasn't perchance a rather old red mini-bus?
mortonjag 2008-08-28 13:18:54
QUOTE(Mr Toon @ Aug 28 2008, 01:10 PM) [snapback]502984[/snapback]
Well he's certainly the biggest (tallest), but maybe we're allowed more than one 'big man' in the team.

Maybe it's just his posture then-he tends to look a bit humpy backed!
mortonjag 2008-08-28 13:57:23
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 28 2008, 08:42 AM) [snapback]502851[/snapback]
Probably in the Sir John Clancy Auditorium in 1972.

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Looking like this in 1972?
mortonjag 2008-08-28 15:26:35
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 28 2008, 02:40 PM) [snapback]503012[/snapback]

Hmm!

I still believe in little pink botty time for knife wielding scum mind you!
mortonjag 2008-08-28 15:35:50
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 28 2008, 02:01 PM) [snapback]503004[/snapback]
No it's not just socialists, some of us Thatcherites would agree.
Perhaps though it is poverty. Poverty of expectation, poverty of ambition, poverty of role models. I bang on here but I think that you may be in aggreement with these ideas too.

Poverty of grey matter primarily.

QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 28 2008, 02:48 PM) [snapback]503018[/snapback]
........ and what about personal repsponsibility? No, I agree, it's easier to blame every man and his dug for your woes rather than look at yourself.

I'm convinced that it is about choice. The choice to smoke, to eat unhealthily, to drink to excess, not to exercise, thay're all individual decisions.

And it's frankly patronising and insulting to those people who come from deprived neighbourhoods and backgrounds that don't fall into this trap to say that those who do are purely a victim of circumstance.

In total agreement. The kind of 'poverty' we hear about in the Scottish Central Belt is inevitably secondary poverty.

There is NOTHING to prevent people from adopting a perfectly healthy lifestyle. It need not be expensive-just about getting priorities right, and there are plenty of folk living in 'deprived' areas who are still able to take a pride in healthy eating, exercise, and a sensible attitude to health issues.

The fact that many do not undoubtedly has numerous origins.

mortonjag 2008-08-28 16:06:04
QUOTE(ShimminTon @ Aug 28 2008, 12:47 PM) [snapback]502966[/snapback]
Well, Mr Newall should have departed the scene a few years ago, That would have saved us alot of grief on this board. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Mortonjag is fascinated by the use of 'us' in this context.

Mortonjag is fascinated by Shimmin's perception that Mortonjag has no friends.

Mortonjag would prefer Mr Farrell to address Mortonjag as Dr Newall, should he wish to publicise Mortonjag's details on our little massage board.

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mortonjag 2008-08-28 16:14:14
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 28 2008, 03:48 PM) [snapback]503030[/snapback]
And I think you're both talking bollocks, but not totally. Ask yourself why people in Milngave make better lifestyle choices than folk in Milton and you'll say it's down to 'grey matter' I suppose. I say that that's a simplistic presumption.

I don't have to Mr Edwards-I've worked all areas of the city. I've worked in Bridgeton Health Centre, Williamwood Health Centre etc.,etc., and I've done 'out of hours extensively.

Let me assure you that Bearsden, Milngavie, and The Mearns have plenty of inhabitants who deliberately choose to prematurely end their potentially long and opulent existences.

The proportions may vary greatly from one area to another-the difficulty or ease with which a healthy lifestyle may be adopted may also vary greatly, but the choice is still there.

Do you deny that?
mortonjag 2008-08-28 16:33:05
QUOTE(ShimminTon @ Aug 28 2008, 11:08 AM) [snapback]502907[/snapback]
Obviously a closed shop then? You may have no enemies on the Jessie Forum, but I'm sure you've no friends there either! Just wee boys who think you're it - sad really. laugh.gif

I imagine that may be a common mis-perception among Mr Rae's skivvies!

QUOTE(ShimminTon @ Aug 28 2008, 12:01 PM) [snapback]502933[/snapback]
i'll have to use my other user name. biggrin.gif

Well let me guess-it's not Mabawsa-he's Cowden, and you're not Donkey Dave, Mr Rae's Counter Espionage Agent and putative tally man.

Dammit-you're NOT Turkeykeech are you-or did I just imagine that name. At my age it's perfectly possible you know-all those years of cutting grass and pushing rollers have taken their toll. I'd love to have had a real job-maybe a doctor or lawyer........

What am I havering about-oh yes-your real name. I wonder what on earth your real name could be.

Maybe I'll ask one of the wee boys. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-28 17:04:05
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 28 2008, 04:55 PM) [snapback]503068[/snapback]
No Mr Mentaljag, I do not deny that. Adults have choices, yes, but I say that social and environmental factors can influence and/or limit choices. Do you deny that?

Why ever would I deny the obvious Dr Edwards. I already incorporated that concept into my previous post! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-28 17:13:43 laugh.gif

I believe there may have been white somewhere on the bodywork. We were about ten minutes late, and said bus had turned right off Easter Road and was heading straight for the stadium. They were hanging out the windows and making a helluva rumpus. I saw one Ton scarf-no other colours. My brother's comment was-'I hope the driver's sober'! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-28 17:21:21
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 28 2008, 04:38 PM) [snapback]503058[/snapback]
I don't know the context in which that was written, but it doesn't seem too ridiculous to me as a statement.

Well you can either see it as totally unspecified-a strong Trust and a skint owner-or a strong Trust and a mega rich Abramovic style owner, where the outcomes would presumably vary, or you can take it in the context of Measles as 'spokesman' for GMST, referring to Douglas Rae as owner.
mortonjag 2008-08-28 17:26:15
QUOTE(Bryan @ Aug 28 2008, 04:38 PM) [snapback]503057[/snapback]
not in the 16 ph34r.gif

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Believe it or not-their squad was bigger than 16!

Even OURS is! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-28 17:36:07
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Aug 28 2008, 05:29 PM) [snapback]503088[/snapback]
The best thing (the ONLYgood thing in fact) about this thread is the discussion about food.

It's just a shame that it's difficult to be enthusiastic about food when someone's trying to stir the s***....... dry.gif

A leopard can't change its spots - nor, apparently, can a mangy ol' jag..............

Measles accused our Manager of having 'blown the budget, made an arse of it, and displeased the Master'.

Big Doc has affirmed that those allegations are incorrect.

Measles has so far declined to make further comment.

I wonder why.

Not that he'd dream of s*** stirring to pursue a personal agenda! dry.gif

Are you calling Big Doc a liar?
mortonjag 2008-08-28 17:44:18
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 28 2008, 05:38 PM) [snapback]503094[/snapback]
The Daily Record gave £15k as a donation to Labour during the last election.

The stories printed by them are so pro-Labour it's embarrassing. Their editorials sometimes look as if they have been written by a 12 year old.
The Scotsman comes a close second though. And Douglas Fraser from the Herald does his bit for the Labour cause too.

I knew you were easily embarrassed the minute you said you couldn't look at Cliff's bum, Spurtle! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-28 17:47:40
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Aug 28 2008, 05:44 PM) [snapback]503098[/snapback]
Disagree, McGuffie worked his socks off to good effect all game and played just as well as Paartalu and Masterton in keeping a talented Hibs midfield at bay.
Because he is playing as a lone striker, any long ball up to him he tries to challenge for and the good thing is that while he may not always win the header, he does enough to put the defender off, allowing the likes of Newby, McAlister or Russell to latch on.

Precisely-he hardly ever comes out of a challenge without gaining the advantage.
mortonjag 2008-08-28 17:59:24
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 28 2008, 05:50 PM) [snapback]503103[/snapback]
Touche. biggrin.gif

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mortonjag 2008-08-28 18:33:24
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Aug 28 2008, 06:07 PM) [snapback]503107[/snapback]
I would much be much more inclined to believe bigdoc. From the info I have Irons did indeed have almost complete autonomy over the budget and unless DDF has said privately to SpotTon or anyone else that he isn't best pleased this may just be s*** stirring.

For the record I am quite pleased with the way Irons has blown his budget.

He has stated that signings are not complete, and that he could take on more staff if he could offload surplus. I don't think the squad is 'the finished article' but I equally don't think he's 'made an arse of it' by a long chalk, as Tuesday night's result tends to confirm.
mortonjag 2008-08-28 18:37:16
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Aug 28 2008, 06:21 PM) [snapback]503115[/snapback]
The answer is there. Weans get programmed by their parents and peer group. Some get programmed to work and study and be a good citizen. Some get programmed to be fat and lazy spongers.

Some overthrow that programming.

Survival of the fittest!
mortonjag 2008-08-28 18:39:13
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 28 2008, 05:28 PM) [snapback]503087[/snapback]
Wiki has this

I've just had beans on toast!


Anyone else hungry? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-28 18:47:58
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Aug 28 2008, 05:49 PM) [snapback]503102[/snapback]
Tom McB is
a baldy old Tory t***
OK it doesn't rhyme but at least it's factually accurate.

Old Bam may be balding and Tory,
but greets all with 'Comment ca va'?
If only you told the same story...
Your heid's up your je ne sais quoi.
mortonjag 2008-08-28 18:51:16
QUOTE(ShimminTon @ Aug 28 2008, 06:44 PM) [snapback]503132[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

I seen your response letter from the S.F.A Mr Newall. laugh.gif

I beg your pardon?
mortonjag 2008-08-28 18:54:46
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 28 2008, 06:50 PM) [snapback]503136[/snapback]
Is This Common Knowledge Thread with this p1sh happy.gif

....and now I've had a lovely big chocolate brownie washed down with some Earl Grey-gently infused for 2.36 minutes in a pre warmed pot.
mortonjag 2008-08-28 18:56:32
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 28 2008, 06:40 PM) [snapback]503128[/snapback]
Good craic laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Indeed his cleavage is quite becoming! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-28 19:00:57 I wonder if Measles will ever explain his apparent attack on our Manager.
mortonjag 2008-08-28 19:03:55 Good grief-my partner's now plying me with After Eights-can't he tell the time?
mortonjag 2008-08-28 19:13:52 Do those red dwarves enjoy petit fours-I strongly recommend them.
mortonjag 2008-08-28 19:33:17
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 28 2008, 07:20 PM) [snapback]503156[/snapback]
Has anyone ever been asked where they come from and the attitude of people changed ?

Sure you can't say for sure that weans brought up with the revolving door of uncles , bad parenting , alcoholism , drug abuse poor enviroment will follow that path . However you'd be pretty niave to see these things other than handicaps .
For some there is a failing over many years to address some of the social problems . As DE highlighted are we strong enough to tackle the problem . Certainly the housing should be sorted to many bad schemes have developed due to bad planning and taking the cheap options .

The social aspirations of an area will only improve if those people see that they haven't been abandoned and this will take years . I am a realist and know no politician has the foresight for such a long term commitment .

Chrissiboi-in terms of the original point-that of life expectancy, the three major factors are alcohol, tobacco, and nutrition.

There is a superabundance of Health Education those days, and folk in the most deprived areas are well targeted.

How difficult is it to take advice?

I'm a realist too-I understand this is a complex issue, but the indisputable fact is that those who die prematurely have often deliberately flown in the face of freely available health education.

They ARE ultimately to blame.
mortonjag 2008-08-28 19:40:17 I'm hoping DI took in the Airdrie game last night and will pick the side accordingly.
mortonjag 2008-08-28 19:49:10
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 28 2008, 07:44 PM) [snapback]503168[/snapback]
He was'nt there as he was on Radio Scotland as part of the team in the studio covering the Wednesday cup games and talking at length about our game. I assume though that they would have had video coverage of the game.

Perhaps DC may have gone along.
mortonjag 2008-08-28 20:05:34
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 28 2008, 07:45 PM) [snapback]503170[/snapback]
They are ultimately responsible but not necessarily to blame I'd say. People who work with deprived, neglected and abused children know that the damage inflicted in those crucial, formative years has an aftermath in adulthood. Some can recover sufficiently to lead a worthwhile life but many others can't. The neglected child all too often becomes the criminal or social misfit of the future. It's that very carousel of despair that we have to stop.

Hey you-haud on a minute-I doubt that the good folk of the Calton for all their naughty habits and neglect of available advice would take kindly to them being described as 'deprived, neglected, and abused' as children. Whose perception are we to use?

Something that's worth remembering is that despite the Calton being the worst example of premature death close to home-the Western Belt of Scotland AS A WHOLE does poorly, despite its Bearsdens, Milngavies, and Newting Marnses.

So-just as some see fit to pontificate about deprivation and social injustice on this little massage board, using a big tarry brush for all who die prematurely, others in distant climes may read their broadsheets and assume that the entire population of Inverclyde is-shall we say-a wee bit coffin friendly!

mortonjag 2008-08-28 20:24:17 Will he be up for it do you think?

Perhaps he'll bring a friend along to watch.

Hopefully it won't be a big let down.


C'MON YE WILLY MAN!

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mortonjag 2008-08-28 21:14:59
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 28 2008, 09:06 PM) [snapback]503209[/snapback]
Let the figures speak for themselves: Life expectancy in Milngavie = 78 years. Calton= 53 years. Your answer? The folk in Milngavie are smarter and make better lifestyle choices. Why? I'll tell you , for the last time. The causes are manifold and complex, but there is no doubt that there is a direct correlation between social deprivation (not just poverty) and health, and crime, and educational achievement, and social success / mobility etc etc etc.

Very true, but the ultimate cause (now I suspect this is knotty) of their shortened lifespans is that they are too thick to benefit from what's available-certainly in terms of health and wellbeing.
mortonjag 2008-08-28 21:36:16 It's strange-we have the benefit of a video replay and we still 'think' it was or wasn't a penalty.

I'd say that vindicates the Ref!
mortonjag 2008-08-28 21:45:31
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 28 2008, 09:37 PM) [snapback]503224[/snapback]
Aye MJ I know that there are some who do rise above the aspirations of their upbringing . The scurge of addiction seems to hit those who are at the bottom of the social ladder . Plenty of alcoholics in Milgarve and even the Mearns but these people usually have a higher income so their addiction is masked more .

I agree with DE that it will take more baws and ability than any political will on show by the present incumbrants .

You can't tell me that kids who spend their formative years looking after their parents while they jag up . Kicked a junkie off the bus one day for grabbing a hold on his wee boy . The wee fella kept the money , as both parents were junkies . Now living with that looking after a younger sister is nothing but tragic .

You've seen some of it first hand and so have I. I remember back in the MID EIGHTIES seeing weans playing oot the back in Possil at four in the morning!

It doesn't alter the fact that the means to a healthy and long life are available, nor does it alter the fact that nobody deprives them-far from it-they are encouraged, insofar as they will accept encouragement, to adopt healthy lifestyles.

They ARE given a choice and for whatever reason (primarily lack of intellect) many choose the easy option and the shorter lifespan.

Perhaps I should add that I've almost invariably found those very folk to be far more gracious to me than the inhabitants of the wealthy suburbs, who make damned sure they get, get, get!
mortonjag 2008-08-28 22:30:21
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Aug 28 2008, 10:12 PM) [snapback]503244[/snapback]
Save that one for the gullible amongst us.laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

You disbelieve me Anus?

The truth is gradually dawning on the masses-many on this little massage board consult Mortonjag in private, and are grateful for his vast experience entirely free of charge!

Please feel free to p.m. Mortonjag at any time and he assures you of excellent and impartial advice, irrespective of knotty things you may have called him. The same applies to all of Mortonjag's detractors. It's all to do with professional standards and ethics Anus. We are all Morton fans you know. If a Midden fan asked for advice he'd get it, and wouldn't wake up to tell the tale! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-29 07:47:23
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 29 2008, 04:30 AM) [snapback]503340[/snapback]
No way,Jose.

The high rise behind is the addition to the Faculty of Medicine.

Wissnae there in 1972.

And no flag pole either.

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We now have many Poles in Scotland too!
mortonjag 2008-08-29 07:49:17
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 29 2008, 04:35 AM) [snapback]503342[/snapback]
Gidday TrumpingTon,

naw, mate, MJ has a manger.

He's had it since birth.

Jesus Newt, I hope Measles hasn't been impounded!
mortonjag 2008-08-29 07:51:24
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Aug 29 2008, 12:22 AM) [snapback]503324[/snapback]
How sad.

You clearly have an affinity for poosies GG.

Again, I like your poosy! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-29 08:02:16 The dreadful life expectancy in the Calton has indeed a complex infrastructure.

One thing is clear to me. The folk of the Calton DO have at their disposal the MEANS to a longer and healthier life. For various reasons they choose not to avail themselves of opportunity, and that attitude spills over into other areas also.

It IS their choice.
mortonjag 2008-08-29 08:14:49 Today's Herald
mortonjag 2008-08-29 08:21:46
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 29 2008, 07:58 AM) [snapback]503354[/snapback]
Corn flakes...then I reckon maybe some toast depending on time. smile.gif

After the corn flakes, you could venture an opinion on the original question asked, though I've noticed young man, that for all your assertions about being 'a bright lad', your intellectual immaturity has to date destined you to non committal one liners and 'clever' little thefts from Photobucket.

A 'smart-ass' answer will confirm my perception.

mortonjag 2008-08-29 08:25:01
QUOTE(Deego @ Aug 28 2008, 10:31 PM) [snapback]503257[/snapback]
GET THE f*** OUT OF MY LIFE.

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mortonjag 2008-08-29 08:30:54
QUOTE(longboat @ Aug 29 2008, 08:24 AM) [snapback]503359[/snapback]
The way that Erik falls after being hit in the air by Hogg may have been a different story had he fallen on his neck. Erik was already in the air and turning his back. Hogg could have pulled out any time. 50:50 ball was there to be won.

Mixamatosis claims an assault? Is libel still a word in Scotland?

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It is indeed, and so is 'opinion'!
mortonjag 2008-08-29 08:36:56
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Aug 28 2008, 10:00 PM) [snapback]503239[/snapback]

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Especially the 'GIRUY FATTY'


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mortonjag 2008-08-29 08:49:53
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 29 2008, 08:20 AM) [snapback]503357[/snapback]
Sure it is. But the weans don't have much of one, and by the time they grow up their judgement has been skewed. Nevertheless, that's a reason, not an excuse. A lot of folk who grow up in these areas come out as good citizens. On this issue I think I'm in general agreement with Davie (used to have two hooses) McArthur. biggrin.gif

'Their judgement has been skewed'! unsure.gif

Their ultimate perception is of fags, booze, gambling, junk food gluttony, promiscuity, unprotected sex, sloth, and living 'aff the social' being the correct way to live.

..............and who are we to disagree?

Who wants to live to 50 when you can enjoy yourself now, and let's face it, 'Whit's fur ye'll no go by ye'! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-29 08:59:35
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 28 2008, 09:57 PM) [snapback]503237[/snapback]
Don't bite...he's having a go at me being part of taking over another thread about talk about what we are having for each meal laugh.gif

That's right!

OK for the little children, but not for the Jag.

I'm just off for my porridge-properly prepared by soaking raw oatmeal in water overnight, and brought through the boil while stirring occasionally with a spurtle.

After that I'll do the Herald Crossword (19 minutes yesterday was longer than usual), and then-oh I'm not sure. It's wonderful to be retired and get all that lovely MUNNY for doing f*ck all while kids with two bit qualifications from two bit Unis are desperately disseminating CV's in the hope that some mug might be daft enough to employ them.

Sorry-I digressed-I WAS having a go. Hi-jacking legitimate threads is somewhat infantile. I'm sure you'll agree.

Yum yum-that was good-crossword done too-feel free to p.m. for any clues you can't work out! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-29 09:34:51
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 29 2008, 09:27 AM) [snapback]503376[/snapback]
Puggsy's Law of Physics

Toast depends on time.

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Is the relationship inversely proportional ?

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Hopefully-it's very difficult, though not impossible to self perform the Heimlich Manoeuvre.
mortonjag 2008-08-29 09:36:44
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Aug 29 2008, 09:20 AM) [snapback]503374[/snapback]
Okayyyy....

ive sent out about 15 or so PMs with a compressed version to let everyone start enjoying it.

even if the ones who get it can avoid battering my own webspace and will then use "yousendit" to get a link to pass onto more people that would be great..

Cheers to jamie..

enjoy!

NEWTON, yer inbox is full!

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mortonjag 2008-08-29 09:47:21 That ShimminTon c*nt is Mark Farrell
who shovels bird sh1t by the barrel
and all that I ask
is he 'stick to the task'
and leave it to others to quarrel dry.gif



mortonjag 2008-08-29 10:14:29
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Aug 29 2008, 10:05 AM) [snapback]503391[/snapback]
Mortonjag is a pure bender
who sooks boab for legal tender
he'll take u oot back
n fill in yer crack
as long as male is your gender

And no one knows better than Thrax
the power that old Jaggy's knob packs,
and (not that it matters)
his arse is in tatters..
he shouldn't be messing with Quacks.
mortonjag 2008-08-29 10:21:28
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 29 2008, 10:09 AM) [snapback]503394[/snapback]
Should I not write to Mr Donald first ?

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Alistair Anderson Donald Esq.,
Director,
Greenock Morton F.C.,
Out of the Country
OI1 2CU
mortonjag 2008-08-29 10:26:18
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Aug 29 2008, 10:09 AM) [snapback]503395[/snapback]
Is that a compliment from MJ !!???? I'm touched blush.gif

Of course it is!

I really enjoyed that. thumbup2.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-29 10:47:10
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Aug 29 2008, 10:42 AM) [snapback]503412[/snapback]
i think ive done everyone on this thread and loads of people i seen logged in this morning...

if you can stick it in yousendit.com or something like that for the rest, that would be smashing.

good way to start a friday ph34r.gif

I've already watched it TY!

Amusing to see the Hibees fans sneaking oot near the end! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-29 10:51:37
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Aug 29 2008, 10:28 AM) [snapback]503401[/snapback]
That really was a witty reply
from a man who makes lil boys cry
and now this feud
is going to conclude
with me saying your not such a bad guy

Hey Thraxy there wasn't a feud
I paid and the shagging was good
I know you feel glum
with that tattered wee bum
I'd kiss it right now if I could! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-29 10:54:53
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Aug 29 2008, 10:39 AM) [snapback]503409[/snapback]
I'm not going out of my way for them, they always seem to find me! smile.gif

Poosies are like that-they have their own minds-Mortonjag approves of such!
mortonjag 2008-08-29 10:56:19
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 29 2008, 10:26 AM) [snapback]503399[/snapback]
With a copy to Sugar Rae
c/- The Torpedo Factory
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c/o Peter Stahl
Germany!
mortonjag 2008-08-29 10:58:01
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Aug 29 2008, 10:34 AM) [snapback]503406[/snapback]
You dont listen to anyone, so why do you insist that other people listen ?

A serious question for you Sir.

If Mortonjag 'doesn't listen to anyone', where do you think he acquired his vast and comprehensive knowledge? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-29 11:00:45
QUOTE(ViolaTon @ Aug 29 2008, 10:51 AM) [snapback]503416[/snapback]
Tisnae, actually. Defamation it'd be, if anything.

Tis-I just checked Chambers! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-29 11:02:19
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 29 2008, 10:58 AM) [snapback]503422[/snapback]
The man who scored.

I was THERE- fantastic game in which Pat Stanton broke his wrist. Unfortunately our defence collapsed in the final.
mortonjag 2008-08-29 11:04:02
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 29 2008, 10:52 AM) [snapback]503418[/snapback]
http://www.mightyleeds.co.uk/players/collins5.htm
"Morton was a two man band comprising Hal Stewart, chief executive and part owner, and Eric Smith, the coach, a hardened former professional … Stewart was part shrewd football man, part entrepreneur. In some ways, he was decades ahead of his time. If he was alive today, I suspect his mouth would be permanently watering over the money making potential around every corner … He kept Morton alight by buying players cheap and selling them at decent profits, and in this he successfully raided the untapped Scandinavian market, one notable success being the goalkeeper Erik Sorensen, whom he moved on to Rangers. Per Bartram, who went on to Crystal Palace, was another. It was obvious that anyone who signed for Morton would not lack the backing of some good supporting salesmanship if he showed the potential to move into a higher sphere of the game.

"Smith was a pure old football man, flinty in his attitude to the game but with a generous spirit. He survived the free wheeling regime of Stewart better than most. Stewart saw Morton as both his plaything and his cash cow. When the mood took him, he would march into the dressing room with the team list he had drawn up exclusively on the basis of his own judgement. Smith shrugged his shoulders and got on with his job as best he could."

Bobby Collins made his Morton debut in August 1969 in a 1-0 League Cup win over St Mirren, saying afterwards, "That was really hectic out there. Is every match as helter skelter? I couldn't get a breather. Down south they play it across the park until an opening shows and then it's all go for goal. Out there it was the through ball all the time with everyone chasing it like mad. I'm a bit behind the others in training and games but I'll catch up fast. I'll have to if that pace is the general yardstick."

He soon came to terms with the style of play and featured in 28 of the 34 games as Morton finished in mid table. Collins had the chance to visit all his old haunts and thoroughly enjoyed his return, particularly one memorable day against Rangers at Ibrox.

It was the last game of the season, April 18 1970, and Rangers had long since seen Celtic claim yet another championship, their fifth in succession. Morton enjoyed one of the greatest days in their history, emerging 2-0 victors.

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And Hal shunned the limelight!

How things have changed, and not for the better!
mortonjag 2008-08-29 11:39:03
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 29 2008, 11:05 AM) [snapback]503431[/snapback]
Where ?

Ibrox ?

On Monday 14 October, 1963 ?

AYE!
mortonjag 2008-08-29 12:40:02
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 29 2008, 12:21 PM) [snapback]503460[/snapback]
Could it be that the "MESSAGE" about healthy living which gets to the majority doesn't work for others and rather than looking on saying that they have made a choice , all be it the wrong ones . There needs to be a proactive movement to say that the system isin't working in places like Carlton .

Surely looking at alternatives must be better than pontificating on statistics .

Chrissiboi, the people who are the focus of those awful statistics DO know what they need to change, so you're correct-the message is ignored, and sure it would be great to find a way whereby that would not happen.

I don't have any immediate 'cure'. I'm afraid there is only a certain amount of 'mollycoddling' available within the budgetary constrains of the State Health System.

Ultimately you can take a horse to water but you can't make it drink.
mortonjag 2008-08-29 13:32:04
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Aug 29 2008, 01:02 PM) [snapback]503486[/snapback]
The two of you humping like dugs,
Is a thought that would turn me to drugs,
Morphine, bennys - the lot,
Twenty acres of pot,
And a Prozac drip serviced by jugs.

TonInDublin

If that's what you want I'm 'yer man'
The pot's hidden under the pan
The coke's in a poke
The smack's up ma crack
Ill bring it across in the van

But everything comes at a price
I'll need a good shag at least twice
I don't need your money
Just go like a bunny
I hope you've an arse like a vice
mortonjag 2008-08-29 13:48:01
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 29 2008, 12:47 PM) [snapback]503479[/snapback]
Just curious about this.

I noted MortonJag suggesting he was giving medical advise in response to PMs.

The professional body of which I am a member would censure me for such actions as it would leave me exposed from an insurance point of view.

The classic example being never to give a casual opinion on something which may be taken as professional advice and relied upon in case it is flawed.

Is it different for the medical profession?

What is the nature of your profession, and which professional body would censure you if I asked you in good faith for some advice which you gave me on the implicit understanding that you were not acting in any way in a professional capacity-merely passing on help from your own experience?

It's also worth noting that I have retired from active practice.
mortonjag 2008-08-29 14:58:33
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 29 2008, 01:55 PM) [snapback]503515[/snapback]
Sorry MJ. No criticism or suggestion of wrongdoing intended. My apologies if it seemed that way. Just curious if there are any guidelines for medical professionals on this topic. smile.gif

I'm a member of the RICS.



No apologies needed!

Firstly, and most importantly in relation to our wee massage board, there is no way that my passing on my experience in my retirement to my 'friends' could be remotely construed as a 'doctor - patient relationship'. Indeed the doctors who pass on advice in the tabloids-even in response to letters from readers-are not viewed in that capacity.

If I was in active practice, however, I would still be entirely at liberty to give advice here if I so desired, provided there was no attempt to 'poach' patients from other practitioners. Again, the crucial issue is that bona fide advice given on an informal internet message board is just that, and in no way constitutes a 'contract' governed by terms of service.

So far as I recall, ALL advice (and it is extensive and sometimes 'nit picking') given by the Medical Defence Societies relates solely to a doctor's relationship with his patients, and that's the nub of the matter.
mortonjag 2008-08-29 15:41:19
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 29 2008, 03:12 PM) [snapback]503560[/snapback]
Thanks for the response MJ.

Presumably, though, people are asking your advise on the basis of your profession.

They could expect, reasonably, to be able to rely on that advice. Are there any implications to you if you are wrong?

I take your point about TV/ newspaper advice though.

RICS members, for instance, are expected to maintain PI insurance cover. To act outwith this cover can be a disciplinary matter.

I suppose it's different for Doctors because much initial diagnosis is based on educated guesswork anyway? (no offence intended!)

All practising doctors in Britain have to registered with the GMC. Those in employment, or contracted to a Health Board require to have valid indemnity insurance. I'm not clear about the rules for private practice, but given the ever present possibility of litigation, only a fool would practise without it.

People on this massage board know I have retired from my profession. I'd hope they expect to be able to rely on advice I give in that capacity, but there are no implications of any kind whatsoever if 'I am wrong' as the advice is given to the best of my knowledge and belief on a bona fide basis. I take particular care only to give advice on matters of which I have up to date knowledge, and always state quite plainly if I am unable to assist.

Mind you, if I asked a retired surveyor in good faith what roof cladding would be best for my bungalow, and in good faith he recommended an outdated fabric, I reckon I'd be too embarrassed at my stupidity in trusting him, to even think about redress!

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mortonjag 2008-08-29 15:56:11
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Aug 29 2008, 12:49 PM) [snapback]503481[/snapback]
No man should be without, even pouffes have had a poosey on top of them.

Poosies are partial to POUFFES and all soft furnishings!
mortonjag 2008-08-29 15:59:35
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 29 2008, 02:03 PM) [snapback]503522[/snapback]
Aren't you the cutest old man I know happy.gif

You don't, and it shows! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-29 16:17:49
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 29 2008, 02:59 PM) [snapback]503549[/snapback]
Perhaps the runt of the litter has been muzzled by its master . His barking does seem to have made him look like a pedigree chump .


I'm sure I recognise that suit!
mortonjag 2008-08-29 16:24:44
QUOTE(Real_Hoops @ Aug 29 2008, 04:04 PM) [snapback]503578[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif A very irate Hibee posted a comment on the YouTube comment page.

Hibs 3 Morton 4

f*** off ya wee pishy c***s. Whens the dvd coming out then?? You's were handed than win by the ref, end off. Also good to see a few of your boys getting a right kick-in after the match. GLASGOW WEEGIE SCUM!

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mortonjag 2008-08-29 16:28:00
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 29 2008, 04:15 PM) [snapback]503580[/snapback]
Roof are meant to leak - I have it on good authority! biggrin.gif

So are retired GP's willies! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-29 18:56:36 C'mon guys-short memories-still less than a year since 75% had 'total confidence in his ability'! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-29 18:58:59
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 29 2008, 04:52 PM) [snapback]503592[/snapback]
Bring back Cruella DeVille biggrin.gif

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mortonjag 2008-08-29 19:26:40
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Aug 29 2008, 04:49 PM) [snapback]503589[/snapback]
Trumpton is indeed correct. There is case law to support against giving any advice whether friendly and in good faith or otherwise without appropriate PII. I think the case law from memory surrounds a Chartered Surveyor who was asked informally by his golf club to recommend some works needing done in the clubhouse. In laymans terms the advice went tits up and the golf club sued the surveyor. The surveyor claimed he was only asked advice as a friend and it was given with good intention. It was found he was liable and professional advice is professional advice no matter the intention with which it was given.

Crazy as the world is, giving out medical advice in any capacity may leave you open to liability if someone takes it upon themself to sue.

Edit to add I would also imagine that the website would have some liability too for not undertaking the necessary due dilligence in verifying the accuracy of your advice or is that taking things too far? To my knowledge, a disclaimer stating that the views of posters are not necessarily those of the website, blah, blah does not remove a duty of care on the website.

The whole thing is being taken too far, and as Trumpton correctly pointed out it is invalid to compare the two professions. Find me some medical case law to prove your point!

Anyhow I'd love to know how one is asked 'informally' by a Golf Club. That is quite clearly NOT a bona fide person to person interaction. The very existence of the Golf Club as an institution throws doubt on the wisdom of the surveyor to 'give friendly advice'.

Back to a retired NON PRACTISING doctor, or ANY retired Professional giving advice to a friend. That is quite different.

Having said that, where are you going to draw the line. It's quite amusing really when you think that every occupation those days is regarded as a 'Profession'. I guess I could ask a garbologist for friendly advice on the best way to move a full wheelie bin, and then sue him if HIS advice 'went tits up' and I fractured a big toe! Professional advice is, after all, professional advice, no matter the intention with which it is given. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


Funny old world eh. I'd like to hear the views of some seasoned professionals. I know for example that Tonsilitis has offered advice before, and I would certainly avail myself of his services if needed, accepting totally that he was giving his professional OPINION in good faith. If things went 'tits up' I'd take the attitude that I had accepted bona fide advice, and it was a case of Mea Culpa, or Caveat Emptor if you will.

I'd really like to read a full transcript of that Golf Course story. The Medical Defence Societies used to publish 'once in a million cases' just to keep folk on their toes and safeguard their own coffers!
mortonjag 2008-08-29 19:30:52
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 29 2008, 04:51 PM) [snapback]503590[/snapback]
You're not cute? Deego said you were sad.gif

Basic grammatical error YET again. Will you ever stop putting your foot in it? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-29 19:36:47 Airdrie beating Hearts was a bigger result than our beating Hibs (unless you think Airdrie are much better than us).

They will be full of confidence and so will we. I honestly can't split the two.

2-2 for me. Wakey's due another and how about one from the rejuvenated Jimbo?
mortonjag 2008-08-30 06:28:28
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 29 2008, 10:08 PM) [snapback]503677[/snapback]
Is 75% the new code for Sugar Rae, then ?

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QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 29 2008, 10:28 PM) [snapback]503694[/snapback]
Where are all the JM lovers , gathering more common knowledge rolleyes.gif

I'd imagine they're having a look about.
mortonjag 2008-08-30 06:32:12
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 29 2008, 10:56 PM) [snapback]503706[/snapback]
Depends if you like crusts or not

That presupposes possession of the upper crust in the 'half a loaf' proposition.
mortonjag 2008-08-30 06:38:02
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Aug 29 2008, 08:00 PM) [snapback]503636[/snapback]
A similar achievement but not bigger surely? Also, we went their and scored 4 whereas they achieved their result by shutting up shop.........again!

They seem to have a well sorted defence but not much upfront. A bit like my wife

I was thinking in terms of the current form of the two Embra sides and the fact that Airdrie came up from the second division quite unprepared.

Does your wife go off the boil after a good performance? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-30 06:44:55
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 30 2008, 03:38 AM) [snapback]503774[/snapback]
Pink ?

Is it not Fuchsia ?

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You'd think our Groundsman would know all about flowers an fingz!


mortonjag 2008-08-30 06:52:34
QUOTE(SramTon @ Aug 30 2008, 12:05 AM) [snapback]503739[/snapback]
I'm sure there is case law concerning this. If I remember correctly it basically comes down to contract.

If the conduct of the parties and the nature of the advice etc is such that it is given in the effective context of a professional:client relationship then a contract can potentially be considered to exist and the appropriate standards of care will kick in.

Without wishing to retread the ground of the infamous "Chris Innes thread". There is basically an agreement between the person who seeks the advice and the person who agrees to provide it, whether that is sufficient to create legal obligations depends on the nature of the agreement.

Obviously the foregoing is just my interpretation, is given in a non-professional capacity, does not reflect the views of this messageboard or its moderators, and should not be considered to constitute a legal agreement or advice. Professional advice should be sought from a legal practice. smile.gif

laugh.gif So you don't know!

QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 30 2008, 12:10 AM) [snapback]503741[/snapback]
My advice is don't give advice unless you're paid for it. That way you might at least be able to keep up the P.I. premiums. biggrin.gif

Sounds like good honest Capitalism to me Mr Edwards.

I take it then, that you never proffer a friendly professional tip! mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-30 06:56:14
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 29 2008, 09:39 PM) [snapback]503668[/snapback]
Is it because I didn't say 'are'?

Believe me, I know what I meant smile.gif

Let me guess:

You meant to be profound? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-30 06:57:43 I've seen your picture before. It does not answer my question.
mortonjag 2008-08-30 07:05:02 Federal prosecutors said Deck and Herson pleaded guilty to conspiracy to vandalize government property



IMPROVE

Who the hell is MUNK, BTW? The chap below is MUNX!
mortonjag 2008-08-30 07:09:16
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Aug 29 2008, 08:02 PM) [snapback]503638[/snapback]
Did you read in the Telegraph last night about that man up at Greenock Sheriff Court on Wednesday stood accused of putting weetabix and spagetti hoops down the pants of an underage girl before performing a sex act on her ? Absolutely bizarre...and sick, however, he's not been found guilty of anything and denies it.

Some children have fertile imaginations.
mortonjag 2008-08-30 07:30:41
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Aug 29 2008, 11:54 PM) [snapback]503736[/snapback]
Despite what you think, I'm no bender,
And the thought of you bumping my fender,
Makes my baws disappear,
In the same way its clear
As thrax giving you a rear ender.

So I'll leave you to plunder his bum,
And tickle his flute with your gums,
What you do with your mickey,
Though frightful and tricky,
Is best kept between you two chums

TonInDublin


My cynical riposte's- 'Aye-right'
Your tadger's no stranger to sh1te
You're always insisting
On rimming and fisting
Before banging ass with delight.

So don't come on here smug and holy
While well into male roly poly
With boxers that pong
Of Yves St. Laurent
And testicles tainted with toly.
mortonjag 2008-08-30 07:56:50
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 30 2008, 07:04 AM) [snapback]503786[/snapback]
Is Spotty's seat in the grandstand at Cappielow seat K9 ?

I wonder what turnstile he uses.

Is he a he ?

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Hey Newt-pedigree dugs all have their inbred faults-Labs, for example tend to have dodgy eyes and hips, while Dalmatians notoriously suffer from premature deafness! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-30 08:02:10
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 30 2008, 07:10 AM) [snapback]503789[/snapback]
This will do me.

Are you a pacifist Newt?

mortonjag 2008-08-30 08:09:59
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 30 2008, 07:12 AM) [snapback]503790[/snapback]
Just found this site:

http://www.scottishleague.net/morton/scott...%20clubpage.htm

18,842 at Cappielow and Alibi was there.

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As was yours truly!

Here's a wee story. On the way to the Hibs game, my youngest brother was recalling his first match at Cappielow. In those days the first team and the reserves often played the same opponents at the same time. Because he was just 'a wee boy' another brother took him to see the reserves at Cappielow against Dundee United. He remembers we won 2-0 before a crowd of OVER 2000!!!

As they were leaving, the result from Tannadice came over the tannoy. Morton had won handsomely scoring SIX in the process!


Can it be that it was all so simple then?

Ah could greet!
mortonjag 2008-08-30 08:13:04
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 30 2008, 07:18 AM) [snapback]503791[/snapback]
How does he stop Spotty piddling on the pitch ?

I doubt if measles ever gets off the leash. Why should he get any more freedom than the rest of them?
mortonjag 2008-08-30 08:19:37
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 30 2008, 07:53 AM) [snapback]503796[/snapback]
He told me to call him Munk sad.gif

He says many things when he's a bit tipsy.
mortonjag 2008-08-30 08:21:59
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Aug 29 2008, 11:55 PM) [snapback]503737[/snapback]
His Penis Capitulated? He has a tech man for that? When you say "tech man" you mean a fluffer don't you? He is knocking on a bit! happy.gif

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Pinprick c*ck!
mortonjag 2008-08-30 08:28:41
QUOTE(axeman @ Aug 29 2008, 06:40 PM) [snapback]503610[/snapback]
Back Row Gerry Sweeney, Sugar Osborne, John Murray, Erik Sorensen, Stan Rankin, Lief Nielsen,

Denis Laughton, Billy McDerment, Joe Mason

Middle Row Eric Smith, George Anderson, Ernie Hannigan, Davie Hayes, George O'Neill, Hal Stewart

Front Row John Lavelle, Mick Hepburn, ?, Bobby Collins

Kieran McAnespie's alter ego?
mortonjag 2008-08-30 08:58:03
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 29 2008, 10:21 PM) [snapback]503690[/snapback]
Perhaps Spotty and SmithsTON are away together ?

SmithsTON is yet to clarify how GC is the greatest source of Ton income.

Perhaps they pay 200,000 pounds a season for shirt sponsorship ?

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I'm beginning to think it wasn't common knowledge after all! Here are some more of his utterances. unsure.gif




'Spot will run naked around Cappielow pursuing Cappie the Cat if Irons proves to be the signing of the season.'


'We are playing no better under Irons than we did with McInally'


'...we are no better off under him than we were with McInally. If he does have the ability we need to motivate the players then it's time for him to step up to the mark or else we will see a new management team at the beginning of next season'


'It's fear that drives me not to criticise him too much. The last majority shareholder who was criticised by the fans decided enough was enough and we ended up with HS'

followed by...


It's time for change and the responsibility for that lies with the only constant at this club and that's the fans. They have to demand change and they can't do that divided. They need a strong voice to speak for them'



Now-just in case anybody is wondering what Measles meant by that 'strong voice'-he was referring to the Trust!


What bizarre sayings Measles produces! blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-30 09:03:35
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Aug 30 2008, 08:38 AM) [snapback]503812[/snapback]
He was tipsy? I was blaming it on the rohypnol he had given me!

...this makes it all ok now biggrin.gif

How much did he charge you?

Fing's chief dealer-Munx just dabbles.
mortonjag 2008-08-30 09:06:04 Hmm.


Nothing like pushing it under the carpet again.

Bungling homophobic bureaucrats. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-30 09:09:50
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 29 2008, 10:40 PM) [snapback]503700[/snapback]
She has 5 children.

I make no comment on their names.

Track

Bristol

Willow

Piper

Trig Paxson Van

Obviously the last sprog was the product of a groupie shag.
mortonjag 2008-08-30 09:13:41
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 30 2008, 09:03 AM) [snapback]503821[/snapback]
As long as his bark is worse than his bite.

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Whose bark-Measles' or the Trust's, or wait...


Could they be one and the same thing? huh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-30 09:58:04
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 30 2008, 09:35 AM) [snapback]503834[/snapback]
+ sausages and beans

+ burgers

+ drinking
Dr MJ,

are you concerned about the apparent lack of fruit and vegetables in Puggsy's diet ?


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Not at all-he may become a Calton statistic if he wishes. Don't forget-as he often reminds us- he's a 'bright lad', so on his head be it! laugh.gif

QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 30 2008, 09:38 AM) [snapback]503835[/snapback]
You really seem to be taking Spot's 'off the cuff' comments to heart and far too seriously. I'd be more concerned about what the club are actually saying over the matter. 6 pages this thread has ran to ffs rolleyes.gif
Nice refreshing bowl of Weetabix, with a smattering of semi-skimmed milk for me this morning. smile.gif

That's your problem young man-too many of you jump down the Jag's throat for what he SEEMS TO be saying.

You'd be 'more concerned about the Club's version'-aye very good-is that not very similar to my challenging him? mad.gif

There is nothing remotely 'off the cuff' about the Sayings of Measles, Naitch; mark my words. He pursued a bitter sniping anti Jag agenda from the moment Jag started to ask questions of, and criticise his beloved Trust.

As you may have noticed, the Jag doesn't take kindly to verbal assault, and in consequence has thoroughly researched all of Measles' utterances. Some, I may say, read like mini sermons!

A picture has emerged with amazing clarity. I don't need to reveal Spotty's identity. I've invited him back more than once to confirm that his diatribe against the Manager was based on 'common knowledge', and he hasn't so far uttered a whimper.

RIGHT.

I think I'll have some Muesli with 'the 1%' milk and some chopped banana on top. That'll set me up nicely for the trip to my old stamping ground! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-30 10:10:58
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 30 2008, 09:39 AM) [snapback]503836[/snapback]
Is it an omen? I'll tell you after the Third Round draw. tongue.gif wink.gif

Is that a fact? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-30 10:13:57
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 30 2008, 09:42 AM) [snapback]503838[/snapback]
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JM does have all the attributes to be an 'ok' manager, but he has found his level and should do a relatively good job at ES.

Off topic-aye very good son!


I'm half way through that Muesli-damn-had to wipe some milk off the keyboard there- and those Fyffes bananas are just the thing. Bananas are very good for cheering one up-something to do with chemicals in the brain I'm told. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-30 10:18:40
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 30 2008, 09:17 AM) [snapback]503830[/snapback]
Very poor taste, MJ.

The wee boy was born on April 18, 2008 with an extra chromosome.

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Might have been in poor taste if I'd known that Newt. I honestly thought that was the child's full name. American children often have bizarre names. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-30 10:21:51 She looks attractive in the earlier picture. Would I shag her?

Well, being utterly frank, I probably would, but I'd much rather shag an attractive woman of integrity.
mortonjag 2008-08-30 10:36:39
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Aug 30 2008, 10:28 AM) [snapback]503848[/snapback]
Of course I do. I never take my own advice.

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mortonjag 2008-08-30 12:12:51
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Aug 30 2008, 10:39 AM) [snapback]503851[/snapback]
Neither would you of course !! happy.gif

Correct.

QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Aug 30 2008, 10:57 AM) [snapback]503854[/snapback]
Although the Trust can only speak for it's members and not the supporters . It would be nice to get an answer to some questions the AD situation , a timetable for a return to full SFA development status

Indeed

QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Aug 30 2008, 11:00 AM) [snapback]503856[/snapback]
I haven't read all of this but is the case that of

The TRUST is not to be TRUSTED [b],.
[/b]huh.gif

Its really all becomming a bit too murky. ph34r.gif


Perhaps 'entrusted' would be more accurate!
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 30 2008, 11:09 AM) [snapback]503859[/snapback]
Not really as I'd be surprised if Spot does have any connections to the club. You'd be better contacting your beloved chairman to have these questions answered. wink.gif tongue.gif
I've heard it all now. laugh.gif

We all remember DDFR 'praising' the OF fans and how we should be more like them...I'm glad to see you've taken their stance in the paranoia stakes. smile.gif

SO typical of yourself and many others.

WHY would you be surprised?

WHAT do you mean by 'connections with the club'.

Proof is required including proof of your allegations of paranoia.

Another one who doesn't like what the Jag says, and for NO BETTER REASON, AND WITH NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER tries to discredit carefully formed opinion.

I rarely use the all too common expression, but


'GROW UP' son. happy.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-30 12:20:00
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 30 2008, 11:04 AM) [snapback]503858[/snapback]
Ahh, see you're in a condescending mood this morning. That bodes well... rolleyes.gif

Puerile posts crave condescension!
mortonjag 2008-08-30 12:22:09
QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Aug 30 2008, 11:52 AM) [snapback]503865[/snapback]
Where are all the MJ lovers? Oh... look no further.

Did you think that up all by yourself?

WOW! shutup.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-30 12:32:07
QUOTE(se65an @ Aug 29 2008, 08:07 PM) [snapback]503640[/snapback]
Guilty or not, he'll not be able to walk around Greenock again

SEIG HEIL! laugh.gif

QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Aug 30 2008, 11:03 AM) [snapback]503857[/snapback]
And some adults sick ones. mad.gif

Hang the f***er (if he's found guilty)

You're very vengeful!

WDE said he was 'not found guilty of anything'.

It's POSSIBLE he was the victim of a stitch up!


Anyway-just in case you think I'm getting soft I'd flog knife wielding thugs within an inch of their lives, castrate all convicted paedos if they don't accept hormone treatment, and behead everybody who disagrees with Mortonjag.
mortonjag 2008-08-30 12:36:56
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 30 2008, 12:19 PM) [snapback]503870[/snapback]
Oh, far from it. It's not 'what' you say, it's 'how' you say it. Your approach to everything you post (by that I mean your insistence on saying something 20 times when once would suffice) dilutes what are often very good points.

So you agree with me after all. I knew you weren't daft. wink.gif

mortonjag 2008-08-30 17:58:21 That is all.
mortonjag 2008-08-31 06:42:41
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 30 2008, 06:59 PM) [snapback]504297[/snapback]
So Douglas, what you gonna do about it then?

No Alistair-what are YOU going to do!

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 30 2008, 07:06 PM) [snapback]504304[/snapback]
Why are they still smiling ?? mad.gif

They are trying to cheer their Daddy up!
mortonjag 2008-08-31 06:47:00
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Aug 30 2008, 01:24 PM) [snapback]503885[/snapback]
Premature what?

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mortonjag 2008-08-31 06:59:11 To get back to the beginning-Measles made a rather unpleasant sounding attack on DI. Measles, unlike Mortonjag-HAS an agenda.

He was challenged, and surprisingly backed off claiming it was 'common knowledge' that DI had 'blown his budget, made and arse of it, and wouldn't get the chance again'.

When challenged yet again, he sunk to even lower depths by pathetically claiming he had been 'angling'. He hasn't been seen since.

For what it's worth there may well be a grain of truth in Measles assertion-maybe more than a grain.

What are you thinking now Measles-can you not TRUST yourself to post any more?
mortonjag 2008-08-31 07:15:52
QUOTE(rawheed rex @ Aug 30 2008, 08:34 PM) [snapback]504377[/snapback]
is it the case that tuesday was more about our lads playing for a deal from mixu.
because thay havent played like that for morton this seaon. and if thay did we would be sitting top of the f***ing pops

That is quite possible IMO-especially in the case of Jimbo.
mortonjag 2008-08-31 07:27:05
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Aug 30 2008, 11:06 PM) [snapback]504519[/snapback]
I understand those may well be 'heat of the moment' comments but...
...why did McInally get so much time in the job, yet Irons is getting grief barely 6 months into his tenure?

It might just be a feature of the apparent inability of the average fan ever to see the big picture.

There was, after all, 'Only One Davie Irons' on Tuesday night.

At least I'm sure I heard them singing that, but I'm getting a bit corned beef.
mortonjag 2008-08-31 07:38:49
QUOTE(Gordon Ottershaw @ Aug 30 2008, 09:52 PM) [snapback]504469[/snapback]
couldn't make it today but i remember morton losing 7-0 v clydebank then beating Dundee (then league leaders) 3-0 the next week!
takes more than a couple of swallows to make a season!

It was extremely hard to swallow-but you are correct. THis time last year we were doing 'no bad' and JM was still the 'bees knees' for over 75% of posters. Maybe this will prove to be our all time low under DI.

QUOTE(Trust Member @ Aug 31 2008, 12:42 AM) [snapback]504643[/snapback]
Embarrasing, humiliating, shocking.
I am concerned by the people saying lets not get too upset as it was a one-off.
I assume they weren't at Dundee last week.
Surprising as it may seem, we actually created more chances today than we did last week.
Not really very hard as we created NONE at Dundee.
It looks like the players can lift themselves for cup-ties but not for the league.
Motivation and consistency required.
Manager's role I think.

I respect your right to criticise anybody for failing the appointed task, but would respectfully suggest that your screen name taints your post with an element of farce!
mortonjag 2008-08-31 07:45:26
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 31 2008, 06:53 AM) [snapback]504719[/snapback]
Premature blindness ??

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I see.
mortonjag 2008-08-31 07:47:19
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 31 2008, 06:55 AM) [snapback]504720[/snapback]
I hope they died painlessly before you gutted them.

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There are many posters I'd happily gut first! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-31 07:56:55
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 31 2008, 07:08 AM) [snapback]504722[/snapback]
Gidday MJ,

With the greatest of respect - PLEASE let this one die.

We now have a very serious battle to avoid the relegation playoff.

As DDFR calims that he wants promotion rather than relegation, he and DI need to sit down and agree on how to dig the Ton out of this hole.

Without making the hole bigger.

Newt-I can normally follow your logic but you've lost me here.

In essence I'm asking a poster whose identity (if I'm correct) endows him with certain statutory responsibilities, to explain apparently harmful comments (harmful to DI AND DDFR) shortly before a crucial cup tie.

As usual the thread has dragged out because others resent Mortonjag/resent questions being asked.

If you feel I've got that wrong, or if (as I suspect) you don't understand where I'm coming from on this one, feel free to P.M.! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-08-31 08:00:56
QUOTE(Wonko the Sane @ Aug 31 2008, 07:40 AM) [snapback]504727[/snapback]
Dear wise and learned physician. Hast thou not heard the famous old saying, possibly coined by Hippoctates himself?

"You are only as good as your last match"

The test for Irons is how he learns from the Airdrie debacle, motivates the team, appoints a half decent captain (McAlister?) and gets some proper organisation into the defence. Me - I'll reserve judgement.


Hippocrates was also wont to opine 'it's a results driven game'-oh wise one!

I do agree-I very much hope, and have a sneaking suspicion too, that yesterday may have been the lowest point for us this season.
mortonjag 2008-08-31 08:11:41
QUOTE(NewTon @ Aug 31 2008, 01:27 AM) [snapback]504690[/snapback]
I really don't see any point in casting up the kind of history you were there.

Sure, Satans Husband, football has changed.

But are you saying that human values like:

loyalty

commitment

discipline

teamwork

passion

have ceased to have relevance in 2008 ?

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I think his wife probably has him well indoctrinated Newt.
mortonjag 2008-08-31 09:35:41
QUOTE(Wonko the Sane @ Aug 31 2008, 08:05 AM) [snapback]504734[/snapback]
Actually, I think you'll find that was Freud.

Lets pick ourselves up and gub Queens on Sunday

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Freud would have had a field day with our Chairman!

Aye-let's hump the Doonhamers-'tis a funny old game.
mortonjag 2008-08-31 09:52:41
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Aug 31 2008, 09:26 AM) [snapback]504747[/snapback]
Only your example disproves the theory as Jimbo was the only one with maybe Russell who got pass marks yesterday. Although that said I know what you mean - yesterday showed what I knew already - Jim is too good for that Morton team.

Talking of yesterday-I thought big Wakey started well and ran out of steam. I don't think he gave up. Jimbo and Iain Russell kept plugging away-Jenkins clearly did his best but is not fully fit, Shimmin seemed to be trying a leg-the left back trialist showed a bit of bite near the end, and the only guy who finally tried to take the game by the scruff of the neck and take Airdrie on-McManus is being pilloried for having some fire in his belly. Sure he overcooked it (AS DID THE REF), but if you really want to point fingers they have to be at a midfield UTTERLY BEREFT of ideas.

I also repeat what I said just before Cuthbert arrived-Colin Stewart is an effin bombscare-FAR worse that McGurn or that wee ginger jack in the box IMO.

If you've a sh1te sub goalie, no established full backs, no playmaker, and no wingers, and in addition the boys have an off day-what do you bloody expect. We were massacred by Airdrie who thoroughly deserved their five goals or more and who look a tidy team-AGAIN a 'wee' side with an astute manager did us over!


Anyway back to Jimbo-up until the Hibs game he's been mince. He was outstanding at Easter Road. Yesterday he was more of his old self, but ultimately achieved very little. Once he gets the end product sorted, others will start to take notice.
mortonjag 2008-08-31 11:10:11
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Aug 31 2008, 10:20 AM) [snapback]504764[/snapback]
Raw meat NewTon, I was brought up on raw meat.

Your pal MJ can crack on as much as he likes, but the simple fact is he knows nothing about what happens at Cappielow. Would like to know everything and resents anyone challenging his view of the world.

Sounds very much like one other old embittered GP who thought he was god, don't you think?

Not correct, and begs the question-who the f*ck do you think you are? You present yourself as an 'authority' while hiding behind what you THINK is anonymity. Mabawsa and Shimmin tried that too! rolleyes.gif

What I DO know (among other things) is that your head is well impacted in your voluminous arse when it comes to your beloved Trust.

You've objected to, and resented every legitimate question that's been asked of the Trust, while you pontificate about its finances, the importance of shares, the youth policy, and the FANS HAVING A STRONG VOICE. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Don't make me vomit-you claim that strong voice is the Trust --who can't get an answer to a simple question after two months. rolleyes.gif You claim it's 'time for change' and that the 'fans need to be heard'. AYE RIGHT, but you don't like it when this fan speaks out against your cosy wee sinecure infected sewing bee-do you?

Care to identify yourself, or do you want me to do it? smartass.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-01 09:44:37
QUOTE(Last Boat Home @ Sep 1 2008, 12:30 AM) [snapback]505215[/snapback]
And you know this how?

Don't ask me I am not a member - if you were to take the trouble to ask then I am sure you would find out but hey its much more fun living in the land of gossip, speculation and conjecture!

Is the trust committed to change - again I can't answer that but I do believe they are a group of Morton fan doing what they believe to best for the club.

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Out of the mouths of babes and sucklings indeed!

Doing what is believed best is often wrong. Mr Rae's been doing it at Cappielow for quite a wee while-indeed there is a marked resemblance between his modus operandi and that of the Trust!

Of those the most apparent is that the Trust has its own dictator who firmly and sincerely believes he knows best. His sidekick, like Crawford Rae, is a paper tiger, often seen purring benignly in the Directors box. As with Mr Rae, the Trust dictator's work is done by his little army of faithful and unquestioning soldiers, who like him react bitterly to any form of criticism-real or perceived.

The truth is that the Trust-certainly in its present state-is far from committed to change. Apart from some commendable charity work-most of which is done by non Trust members, it has become an anachronism.

Only a blind fool could possibly believe that the Trust has (or EVER will have) any clout at Board level when the major shareholder carefully protects his 75.1% stake. It's frankly a joke to keep banging on about 'shares giving the fans a voice' but it's Mr Trust's raison d'etre.

The whole concept of an effective Fans' Trust at Cappielow is fatally flawed, yet the majority of fans still see the Trust as safeguarding their interests. That apathetic ignorance is a sure measure of the current fragmentation of the fan base.

Of course it's time for change, but fans can only effect change with money that talks.

In the meantime the Trust would do well to re-think its role. It could easily evolve into an all embracing social network for fans-Andy M's work shines as a beacon in that direction.

Forget the spin folks-your tenner Trust membership would be better spent on the Lottery.

You MIGHT just end up buying Rae out! smile.gif





mortonjag 2008-09-01 10:17:02
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 1 2008, 10:06 AM) [snapback]505279[/snapback]
The truth is that the Trust-certainly in its present state-is far from committed to change.
Gidday MJ,

Sorry, mate, but I cannot agree.

The Trust has stated that its goal is to become THE majority shareholder in Morton FC.

It has already spent in excess of 100,000 pounds on Morton shares.

Do you not agree that control by the Trust will be a MAJOR change from the current regime ?

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The Trust in its present form is committed to collecting lots and lots of tenners and believes that in the fullness of time they will have so many tenners that they can buy out Alistair Donald's grandson? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-01 10:42:53 In answer to the original question, it's certainly time for Mr Rae to 'cut his losses'-some would suggest it's long past time!

It's indisputable that AD is 'interested' in the club. Perhaps not as 'interested' as in January when he gave his one and only interview to the 'Tilly', but at least he deigned to become a Director a few weeks ago, and that's 'interest' in my view.

IF Mr Donald's function is currently 'advisory only' he's making a brilliant job of lowering the value of the club.

Mr Donald's track record indicates that he's an extremely shrewd businessman! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-01 11:16:08
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 1 2008, 10:34 AM) [snapback]505290[/snapback]
well, they have collected over 10,000 tenners already.

IMHO, that's a great performance.

MJ, here's a daft idea.

The Trust "officially" has not heard from Mr Donald.

Is that just what we are meant to believe ?

Perhaps the Trust is in negotiations with Mr Donald.

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Always expect the unexpected!

I'm a wee bit confused though. Has he ambitions to become Chairman of the Trust Committee?
mortonjag 2008-09-01 11:29:14
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 31 2008, 10:00 AM) [snapback]504757[/snapback]
I think Weatherson is being made a bit of a scapegoat here. Some of the comments about his ability and fitness are way over the top and nonsensical to say the least.
Remember his goals have saved us on numerous occaisions in the past. I'm not defending him if he has made comments towards the fans at yesterday's game, I'm sure we will hear more about that as the week goes on.

Weatherson can play in defence, but not at either right or left back. He is not pacey enough to handle some of the players at this level.
He can play in the centre of defence though and that's the only place to play him if you are going to make him part of your defensive set up. I hope Irons now realises this.
I don't know where Weatherson fits into the team. Whether he is a striker, midfielder or defender. My own preference is to put him back up front and let him battle for a place with Wake.

Irons has to find a settled defence and stick with it. Changing personel and formation in just about every game played this season is not helping.

I agree, and one thing's absolutely set in stone.

If Peter scores three brilliant goals against the Doonhamers this Sunday-which is NOT outwith his ability, those who hate the 'fat, unfit, gambling, alcoholic chancer' will turn their spiteful small minds on another victim for a little while.

Probably yours truly! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-01 11:34:11
QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Aug 31 2008, 04:41 PM) [snapback]505014[/snapback]
The blonde at the front on her phone is actually Jim McAllister's bird, used to go to uni with her.

She must have been very proud.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 11:46:00
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Aug 30 2008, 08:43 PM) [snapback]504387[/snapback]
Agree with both points. Rae should go but go where and who wants to buy a 'diddy team' like Morton?

Irons was a terrible appointment although I hope I'm wrong. A team like Morton needs a manager who has been around the block a few times and who wouldn't be scared to get rid of the likes of Weatherson.

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QUOTE(El gofer @ Aug 31 2008, 02:42 AM) [snapback]504703[/snapback]
TTG rae is silly patter.

The guy owns the club. He isnt an employee. We need to get our head round the fact, as many many other teams do that the owner is maybe not who people want. The guy puts money in and to that extent is entitled to a say.

We have no goalscorer. Dont think that is Rae's fault.

No pace. Surely Irons would have pinpointed that if he thought it was an issue. He did not.

Finlayson dropped like a stone. A lot of people on here give the guy pelters. He is similar to what McLaughlin was last year. Neither of them hid in games. They always looked for the ball. As a result of being so involved, they make mistakes. Rather that than guys standing about. Paartalu and Masterton. I hope they bring in a kicker rule like american football. That would make Masterton a key player.

I would say that Finlayson's workrate is far superior to mcallister's but he is not such a pretty player.

I heard a rumour we were meant to be taking Kevin McCann from Hibs on loan. I heard this before the game on tuesday. If this is the case, our strongest team is....

Cuthbert
McCann Shimmin McManus Reid

Finlayson McGuffie Jenkins McAllister

Russell Wake

I keep thinking there is something to come from Newby so poss Nemby for Wake.

Looks boring but solid and our wide mids have pace and support the full backs. There was no support today. Blaiming spoons is all well and good but who was meant to be protecting him?? Left side?? Narrow formation?? Not Jim surely?? All our goals apart from the 2nd came down there. Reid was on his lonesome for the last two. Jim did well going forward late on, so it must be the formation and not him that meant the full back had no protection................



WHY is it 'silly patter'?

Would you prefer 'Please stay for ever and ever Rae'?


OF COURSE IT'S TTG!

The sooner the old fud realises he's no longer a big fish in a small pond the better. He IS a liability, and it IS TTG.

Don't worry too much about bogeymen like Hugh's Cot. Mr Rae's ego won't see him selling the club on to a charlatan, and it's STILL TTG.


mortonjag 2008-09-01 11:57:47 ......and the victim next time we f*ck up will be................


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mortonjag 2008-09-01 12:08:08
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 1 2008, 09:43 AM) [snapback]505271[/snapback]
I don't understand. Are you saying we need new signings?
From memory. Jenkins signs and everyone on here rejoices. He hasn't kicked a ball for us. Admittedly he's been injured. McGuffie signs and everyone one here rejoices. Terrible signing. No effort and very little ability. Some one here are reduced to claiming 'it's the work you don't see' that's his strength. McManus signs and everyone on here rejoices. Third or forth game in and he's swearing at the fans. Masterton signs and everyone on here rejoices. Anyone see where I'm going here?

I have not been 'rejoicing' about a single Morton signing since Rae went on his glory trip.

From day one we've been on a bloody budget. I believe Cowboy should have been allowed to stay, but GOD couldn't keep his sacred arse oot the dressing room, and since then we've had two rookie managers in succession.

For what it's worth, I believe DI has what it takes to learn from his mistakes. The last one was a muppet.

The four players you mention are all capable of playing well at first division level.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 12:33:15
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 1 2008, 12:06 PM) [snapback]505314[/snapback]
No idea why MJ is laughing at my post. Maybe he has 'insider' knowledge on 'things'. Frankly I'd rather have had Rowan Alexander than Irons.

I was laughing at the way you put it McArthur.

'It WAS a terrible signing and I hope I'm wrong'.

Maybe if I'm asked to sign your death certificate I'll write:

He IS deid, and I hope I'm wrong! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-01 12:34:46
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Sep 1 2008, 12:25 PM) [snapback]505331[/snapback]
I'm actually not that worried. Am I weird?

Everyone in this league is beating everyone else.

Saturday was total bollocks but we can play a lot better than that. I'm glad we have a week off from league duty, and perhaps will get someone else before the window shuts tonight.

We've shown in patches and the Hibs game what this team can do, we can do alright this year.

I agree.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 12:40:12
QUOTE(Toby @ Sep 1 2008, 12:06 PM) [snapback]505315[/snapback]
It's not a case of looking for a victim, or a scapegoat though.

Plenty of folk have bad games, a poor run of form, a difficult start at a new club, I can live with that and if a player, knuckles down, puts in the work and shows he wants it, he should reap the rewards (Brian Wake?) and also the full support of us.

What I can't accept is someone behaving that way purely because he was s***e. It was an act of thuggery that he should be ashamed of. He's let down himself, his team-mates, the management team, Raemanov and his co-horts, the club and the fans.

Not impressed, and I hope the club fine him the maximum permitted under the terms of his contract.

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It was certainly a moment of hot headedness in a match famous for its total lack of spirit.

Bring back the Deano I say! thumbup2.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-01 12:44:38
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Aug 31 2008, 10:03 PM) [snapback]505149[/snapback]
For all those living in fantasy land and want Weatherson punted.
First of all, we would need to buy out his brand new 3 year contract. Then find the funds (that we have not got) to get a replacement.
All of this would take well over £100,000 I reckon. That's buying out Weathersons contract and giving a salary to our new player (asuming we find one).

Thoughts ?

My thoughts Spurtle-this time last year 75% of those polled had full confidence in JM! dry.gif

QUOTE(beermonkey @ Aug 31 2008, 10:08 PM) [snapback]505152[/snapback]
I refuse to vote on these silly polls ! dry.gif

Is that because you're too intelligent? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-01 12:49:05
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 1 2008, 12:39 PM) [snapback]505340[/snapback]
Does anyone actually know how much the club is worth in cash terms?

It's not how much it's 'worth'-it's how much anyone is willing to pay, and Rae has probably overvalued it in AD's eyes.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 12:50:58
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 1 2008, 12:36 PM) [snapback]505339[/snapback]
I see. No offence at all but I am planning on outliving you.

What I meant was, Irons appointment was, in my opinion, a terrible appointment. Having said that, I would like him to prove me wrong.

I knew that McArthur, but this is a forum for nitpicking remember! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-01 13:04:43
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Aug 31 2008, 03:16 PM) [snapback]504967[/snapback]
Masterton can't work in a midfield four - if he's part of the engine room the car will break down.
At least with 5 we have a spare man to accomodate him.

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QUOTE(Last Boat Home @ Sep 1 2008, 12:19 AM) [snapback]505212[/snapback]
Glad to know that I am not the only fan of the big man. It's become fashionable on here to give him a hard time but there is not many better centre halfs in the first division and before the keyboard smartarses get excited look at McManus who despite his reputation is not half the player big Stu is.

Are you a self appointed keyboard non-smart arse-or just arrogant fud LBH?

People have short memories-both of those players (on form) are capable of playing well in the First Division.

I am a self appointed keyboard smart arse. That's to save you asking your non-smart arse question! bag.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-01 13:07:46
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 1 2008, 01:01 PM) [snapback]505369[/snapback]
Does anyone know how much Rae has the club valued at?

Alistair Donald-and I wouldn't be in the slightest surprised if it's an up to date valuation.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 13:11:17
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Sep 1 2008, 01:06 PM) [snapback]505374[/snapback]
Jenkins and Masterton I agree are capable at this level - when Jenkins is fit he's capable of playing for a team in the lower half of the SPL IMO, and Masterton was well liked at Clyde before he had fitness problems last season, when the general consensus was that he was poor, but when fit he was still capable of playing well.

McGuffie and McManus however; most Gretna fans seemed to think McGuffie was a passenger after they were promoted to the First Division - the general opinion seemed to be that he was a Second Division player, and his performances since signing for us have suggested that.

McManus was poor whenever he played against us last season, and with the exception of a decent performance against Hibs, has been absolutely terrible for us. He's not up to football at this level; Livingston knew that and that's why they signed Innes instead.

Most Gretna fans thought Mileson was the best thing since sliced bread!


Time will tell-if you're correct it's a terrible indictment of DI's assessment of 'quality players'.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 13:15:02
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Sep 1 2008, 01:11 PM) [snapback]505385[/snapback]
I voted 'move him on'.

I don't think his rift with the fans will ever heal. There's been the cheer when he was substituted at Dumbarton, him shouting at the fans when he scored a double against Gretna and then what happened on Saturday. I just can't see a way back for him at Cappielow.

By 'move him on' I don't mean I'd release him and pay him off. I'd try to get a club to take him on loan or on a permanent basis.

That was NEVER proved!

Anyway, are you trying to tell me that that fat lazy lump of alcoholic blubber scored twice against an SPL club?


Pull the other one!
mortonjag 2008-09-01 13:17:49
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 1 2008, 01:08 PM) [snapback]505377[/snapback]
I've seen nothing from Masterton other than the ability to hit a freekick on occasion and rarely hit a good shot.
Is that sufficient for part of a central midfield at this level?

I saw pure unadulterated crap from Wakey for many games when he first arrived. Some said he was the worst striker they'd ever seen in a Ton jersey!
mortonjag 2008-09-01 13:44:43
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Sep 1 2008, 01:28 PM) [snapback]505401[/snapback]
Well in that event, there is definately a case of overdoing it then! Every day? Everyone will be knackered, seems a bit overkill to me. I dont think the idea of them doing more than double sessions is that far from a joke...much more the opposite!!!!

I tend to agree with that. It sounds like DI justifying things to himself.

All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy!
mortonjag 2008-09-01 13:51:47
QUOTE(Trust Member @ Sep 1 2008, 01:23 PM) [snapback]505398[/snapback]
Reduced to criticising peoples screen names. I expected better from you MJ. I thought the last time I was on here you said it would be a good idea if people like me stayed on the board.




I certainly suggested that it would be a good idea if the Trust and its members behaved more like ordinary fans and less like Mafioso. Is that what you're alluding to?

I'm not criticising your screen name-merely pointing out that it does align you with an 'organisation' which can't hold a candle to our current squad in terms of achieving its published aims.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 13:56:45
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Sep 1 2008, 01:34 PM) [snapback]505408[/snapback]
Please don't let inconvenient facts spoil some navel gazing speculation.

Navel gazing speculation-eh! laugh.gif


Extremely wealthy businessman becomes director of extremely poor Provincial football club.

I'd suggest that to speculate non financial interest is facile.

Is that what navel gazing means?
mortonjag 2008-09-01 13:59:30
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Sep 1 2008, 01:37 PM) [snapback]505411[/snapback]
I saw him do it with my own eyes.

That's about the only thing he did in the second half of the season.

So did I-and from the Queens stand-he held his hand to his ear as if to say-'where's the criticism now'?

Not exactly 'shouting at the fans! drink.gif drink.gif drink.gif

PS-I thought those Smileys were the most suitable!
mortonjag 2008-09-01 14:05:41
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Sep 1 2008, 02:00 PM) [snapback]505426[/snapback]
Navel gazing as more akin to raising umpteen threads and making hundreds of posts with the net effect that you know no more today than when you started smile.gif

HA-then I'm a happy navel gazer.

Try navel gazing yourself-oh-and a wee point-I know a helluva lot more than I did when I started.

Alternatively, you could read a good book, walk the dog, go fishing, have a shag, listen to Mozart.........

Maybe I should start a thread on 'alternatives to navel gazing'!
mortonjag 2008-09-01 14:10:33
QUOTE(Dougie @ Sep 1 2008, 02:00 PM) [snapback]505425[/snapback]
To me the position Weatherson is playing in is completely irrelevant. There is no excuses for his poor conditioning, poor lifestyle and poor attitude. He is a disgrace who used the last of his chances years ago with Morton and should never pull on a jersey again. Any player who cannot handle the expectations of this support should stop collecting the heavy wage packets and get to f***. They all love the adulation that comes there way with success but hate the criticism that comes with their failure.

As for Davie Irons, I was not convinced when he was appointed Morton manager but he has won me over and deserves time to get it right. Lets not forget that when we turned Airdrie over 6-1 they were struggling badly and turned it around to win the league. Now while I do not expect us to turn it around to that expect I would be amazed if Irons takes us down. I think a few Morton players are about to see a different side to our gaffer.

Subbing Weatherson in the first half was the most Pro-active thing I have seen from a Morton manager in years. In truth he could have subbed three or four at that point, but what he did do was send a message on Saturday. Ineptness will not be tolerated

Dougie-please don't take this personally, but could you specify the behaviour you describe, and tell me when you witnessed it. Any video evidence would be extremely helpful.

It's not that I doubt the body of opinion, but living outside Inverclyde, it's hard for me to devote much time to observing the private lives of our players.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 14:13:42
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 1 2008, 01:50 PM) [snapback]505415[/snapback]
So what's your excuse then? rolleyes.gif

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I don't need an excuse for other people's opinions!
mortonjag 2008-09-01 14:18:58
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Sep 1 2008, 02:06 PM) [snapback]505433[/snapback]
Well he was facing the fans in the stand on the far side and I could see that he was shouting something and the way his face was screwed up meant is was obvious it wasn't something positive.

Anyway, that just shows how deluded he is. Thinking that two goals and one performance meant that he'd shut up fans.

If anything he should've been embarassed that those two goals and a header against St. Johnstone were the only things he did in the second half of last season. It was no coincidence that we only starting getting results when Irons dropped Weatherson and put Wake and Russell up front instead.

Hold on-no time ago Wake was 'the worst striker ever to don a Ton shirt', and Russell was 'second division quality who couldn't hit a barn door'!


I've never doubted his lack of application.

I've never doubted his ability.

I've never doubted that at a decent club he'd have been tobered up or punted long ago.

I've never doubted that many Ton fans need a convenient victim at any given time.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 14:21:08
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Sep 1 2008, 02:08 PM) [snapback]505435[/snapback]
Why not. You've certainly bored the arse off the world with this one.

Newt started the thread my dear-do keep up!
mortonjag 2008-09-01 14:23:11
QUOTE(Trust Member @ Sep 1 2008, 02:10 PM) [snapback]505437[/snapback]
At EGM it was said that there were one or two people interested in buying some shares, but no names were given.

I am pretty sure if Tele had ever reported AD was to make an investment or wanted the club we would all remember it. Paricularly I would have thought you NT.

DDFR has said he has rejected offers, but he hasn't said they came from AD.

I dont think there has been any real evidence that AD wants or has ever wanted the club.




I don't think you'd ever make a scientist, or barrister, and you'd NEVER have become Rebus! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-01 14:26:21 Couldn't be much worse IMO.

Not much of an income and NO guarantee we progress.

Hopefully the massive home support v a few sheep shaggers will see us through.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 14:28:27 I guess the cup draw has put the issue to bed!
mortonjag 2008-09-01 14:32:09
QUOTE(Dougie @ Sep 1 2008, 02:19 PM) [snapback]505460[/snapback]
There has been video evidence of Weathersons behaviour passed on by a friend of mine to Cappielow and completely brushed under the carpet by our boardroom and PREVIOUS management team. I appreciate it isnt personal and I could go into details about Peters lifestyle problems but dont think it would do anybody any good. This aint me starting a witch hunt and most local Morton supporters are perfectly aware of Peters lifestyle choices your just one of the lucky Morton supporters who hasn't witnessed it first hand. Lets just say Weatherson has a worse lifestyle than what Williams, John Maisano or Marco Maisano ever had and that in itself is saying something.

Fair enough-I just keep hearing folk talk about it as 'common knowledge' but nobody ever seems to say e.g. 'Last night I witnessed the following'.......

SO it begs the question-WHY is he still at Cappielow?

mortonjag 2008-09-01 14:37:02
QUOTE(Toby @ Sep 1 2008, 02:32 PM) [snapback]505482[/snapback]
Got to completely disagree with that. Gone are the days that a trip to Ibrox and Parkhead are big pay days. Their season ticket holders don't get into ties like this and as a result don't want to pay £15 a skull to watch a team like us on top of the season ticket and Champions league games (sorry, Rangers tongue.gif !).

The only way to make money out of this tournament is to get to Hampden and by getting Inverness at home, we have as good a chance to progress as we would have had in any combination, bearing in mind the seeding for the draw.

Logistically too, it's a good draw. I'd much rather have this than a trip to Inverness, Aberdeen or Dundee United. It offers a chance of progress. For all they're a better side than us and will rightly go in as favourites i can't ask for any more.

Good draw.

I can't argue if what you say is correct. I'd imagine we'd have taken a good 5000 plus to Ibrox or Parkhead, but maybe you can tell me what their crowd would probably be.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 14:55:39
QUOTE(Trust Member @ Sep 1 2008, 02:31 PM) [snapback]505480[/snapback]
I thought most of trusts 250+ members were ordinary fans. How does an ordinary fan behave?
Do you think you are an ordinary fan?
In what way is the trust like the mafia?
I dont agree with that. I agree the trust doesnt do what YOU think it should. That doesn't mean they are not doing what their members want.

Again I must correct myself. I had no idea that there was such a massive membership. When I alluded to that sort of behaviour, I was referring to members who 'knee jerked' to questions being asked.

Folk who said-'wrong thread', and 'we only answer to members', and 'the Trust is NOT the fans' representative', and 'Jim McColl does a good job'-OH and 'WE WELCOME THE PUBLICITY', before disappearing like snow off a dyke! dry.gif

So why did this huge number of active Trust members contribute so little. I accept they are not part of the Inner Sanctum Mafioso, but they surely must be well versed in, and up to date with the Trust's multi faceted activities. It can't JUST be about picking up the odd tenner every couple of months and gloating over the massive power and kudos of an utterly worthless shareholding, and taking credit for good deeds organised by supporters' clubs when cash is meekly handed over to Rae without any hope of knowing what will become of it!

I presume that 244 or thereabouts hardly souls were out on active Trust business at the time of the Trust AGM, when half a dozen less sturdy Trusties turned up to hear Professor Pickett's lecture!!!

Anyway, lets NOT get too upset. Those are early days. DI is still learning his trade, and unlike the last Muppet, appears to have more than sawdust between his ears.

Onwards and upwards!!! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-01 15:20:05
QUOTE(Trust Member @ Sep 1 2008, 03:12 PM) [snapback]505513[/snapback]
If you go on correcting yourself like this people will lose faith in your original posts and we wouldn't want that? Would we? smile.gif
For both the club and the Trust. smile.gif

Hopefully!

QUOTE(Trust Member @ Sep 1 2008, 03:14 PM) [snapback]505515[/snapback]
Get in touch with the Trust.

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Excellent - a Trusty with a sense of humour.

Hope springs eternal in this bitter and spiteful old past sell by date physician's bosom! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-01 15:22:35
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Sep 1 2008, 03:19 PM) [snapback]505518[/snapback]
I'm well aware of who started this thread. The organ grinder and monkey are relatively interchangeable on here wink.gif

My monkey is not related to Newton.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 15:34:53
QUOTE(Trust Member @ Sep 1 2008, 03:27 PM) [snapback]505525[/snapback]
I dont think I would ever want to become Rebus you have to live in Edinburgh.
You produce a single fact:
Extremely wealthy businessman becomes director of extremely poor Provincial football club.

From this you deveop a suggestion not even a Hypothesis
I'd suggest that to speculate non financial interest is facile.

Then you make a conclusion based on your own suggestion and present it as
real evidence

Inadmissable M'lud!!!



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You see-you'd NEVER make a barrister.

It IS real evidence--it is evident that Mr Donald is (at long last) a Director of Morton FC.

It is also evident that Mr Donald is extremely wealthy.

It is evident that Morton FC is a relatively poor club.

The circumstantial evidence is overwhelming-Mr Donald has clearly fallen passionately in love with Gillian Donaldson.

mortonjag 2008-09-01 15:45:57
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Sep 1 2008, 03:30 PM) [snapback]505529[/snapback]
I've never said Wake was the worst striker to play for Morton

My point here is that Weatherson is a more talented player than both Wake and Russell but as soon as he was dropped for those two we started scoring and winning. Which suggests there's a problem with Peter Weatherson.

I don't think he's a convenient victim. Concerns over Peter Weatherson's fitness and attitude have been expressed by many Morton fans over a long period of time.

What is your opinion of Peter Weatherson?

I didn't suggest that YOU had claimed anything about Wake or Russell.

I believe Spoonsy's potentially a better striker than either, but our strikers this season have had to work for their own goals and that's not his style. Given an even half decent supply, Spoonsy would still have got on the score sheet.

My opinion of Peter Weatherson is that he's a very talented footballer with significant personal problems, and that had he signed for an even semi organised club instead of us, he'd either now be a well known SPL striker, or a second division 'has been'.

He is AN EXTREMELY CONVENIENT VICTIM!!!



mortonjag 2008-09-01 15:49:33
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 1 2008, 03:37 PM) [snapback]505539[/snapback]
Thats just sick bag.gif

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mortonjag 2008-09-01 15:52:26
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 1 2008, 03:47 PM) [snapback]505547[/snapback]
I wish you would come out and say who you are..don't think your doing the trust any good hiding behind a name(if you are on the trust board)

He's Trust Member Sean. Haven't you learned all the code names yet!

You DO know who measles is surely! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-01 15:55:34
QUOTE(Ghost @ Sep 1 2008, 03:50 PM) [snapback]505554[/snapback]
Ok Crawford

Good God Ghostie-wee Bryan didn't ban Crawford for a week did he? blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-01 15:58:39
QUOTE(Ghost @ Sep 1 2008, 03:46 PM) [snapback]505546[/snapback]
Why, i totally agree with it


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QUOTE(Ghost @ Sep 1 2008, 03:54 PM) [snapback]505560[/snapback]
All logical statements, tend to agree with quite alot of his posts rolleyes.gif

Thanks Ghostie.

Ron Number exists for one purpose only-to attack Mortonjag.

If you watch carefully (or read his previous posts) you'll end up agreeing with that too.

IMHO he contributes absolutely nothing of any worth to our wee massage board. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-01 16:07:46
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Sep 1 2008, 03:56 PM) [snapback]505563[/snapback]
Why bring it into a debate you and I are having about Peter Weatherson. Especially in reply to me making a point about our fortunes turning around when he dropped Peter and played Russell and Wake. What other people have said about Russell and Wake is irrelevant.

The rest of your post is fair enough but I still don't think he's a convenient victim. Stevie Masterton recently received the same ironic cheers when substituted. The differences were that Masterton's performance was nowhere near as bad as Weatherson's. He also refused to react to the fans. What he did do was start the next match on the bench and then pick himself up put in a good performance and score a cracker goal in his next start against Hibs.

You said this:

It was no coincidence that we only starting getting results when Irons dropped Weatherson and put Wake and Russell up front instead.


I was simply making the point that NO time ago Wake and Russell were victims of sometimes pretty nasty abuse..

THAT was my point-and it wasn't aimed at you-it was in illustration of the fact that Morton Fans always need at least one victim. Right now Spoonsy and McManus fit the bill-before it's been the 'chuckle brothers', or loopy lee Robinson, or Midge the wimp who shirked tackles, or well-almost anybody really! Just not all at the same time! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-01 16:26:06
QUOTE(big B @ Sep 1 2008, 04:01 PM) [snapback]505571[/snapback]
Am I right in saying that DDF stated a couple of seasons ago that he had 2 offers on the table of £4 million to buy him out, having said that it is better the devil you know.

He was interviewed by the Scottish Sun and an article published on the morning of our game with Raith Rovers-the day we gained promotion.

As I recall, the article was entitled something like 'I don't regret backing a loser', and he was explaining how he inevitably had to pour cash into the club to get it moving. He stated that he had had (as I recall) several offers in excess of a million pounds, and that 'as long as there was breath in his body' the Rae family would retain control of the club.

Maybe somebody knows how to retrieve that article from archives.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 16:34:26
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Sep 1 2008, 02:37 PM) [snapback]505485[/snapback]
He stood out a mile, imo, which is why I WAS glad when we signed him. He looks done now.

I wouldn't write him off quite yet-he's had injuries and was slow to get started-added to our NEVER yet having had a settled back three or four.
Say what you like-he's an experienced pro and he's not exactly over the hill in years.

On Saturday he let his frustration take control of his senses. I guess that's what comes of playing behind a midfield of woodentops!
mortonjag 2008-09-01 16:44:33
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Sep 1 2008, 04:20 PM) [snapback]505590[/snapback]
Okay, I thought you were insinuating I had said those things.

With all of those examples it's my personal opinion that Peter Weatherson is the one who deserves the most criticism.

The rest of those players are honest but limited players who are criticised for mistakes and a lack of ability. Most of them also took abuse in a professional manner although I do seem to remember Ryan Harding reacting once.

Peter Weatherson is a talented player who is wasting his talent and not performing to his true potential and that's criminal.

edit to add - However, I do agree Chris Millar was often unjustly criticised.

I've taken other posters up on that before. Do you think he deliberately sits down and says-'I think I'll just be a waster'?

The boy has problems which are all too common in professional sportsmen. They are NOT IMO insurmountable-given a willingness to sort them AND proper experienced support.


For all I know he is an inveterate waster who will never benefit from help.

For all I know he's often sought help from the club, and help has not been forthcoming.

I'm pretty sure that if he had been a smaller fish in a bigger pond, referral for help would have been seen as an investment.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 16:46:21
QUOTE(Trust Member @ Sep 1 2008, 04:36 PM) [snapback]505605[/snapback]
So as long as I stick to having a go at MJ and belittling him that will be OK. wink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-09-01 17:07:34
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 1 2008, 05:04 PM) [snapback]505624[/snapback]
Gawd...we've got Crawford and Douglas Rae posting on the board now. rolleyes.gif

With you too McArthur that sure is one holy trinity.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 17:09:17
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 1 2008, 04:49 PM) [snapback]505615[/snapback]
Yes mellow.gif

Just like Willowman opts to drink in the Willow Bar, Peter opts for a local night club, 20 fags and Donnar Kebab for the way home(complete with salad) rolleyes.gif

No one forces him, just like his addiction for gambling

Is he a gambling addict, or just a heavy gambler?





Or neither or both,
mortonjag 2008-09-01 17:11:04
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 1 2008, 05:05 PM) [snapback]505626[/snapback]
What did he do wrong at Dens Park, up against (allegedly) the best partnership in the league?
We were beaten due to an individual marking error (by Weatherson) and apart from that were compact throughout.
In my book, that makes for a good individual defensive performance.
What did he do wrong against Clyde?

He's been very unlucky this season with two great headers on target well saved, AND scored the winner at Easter Road.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 17:12:23
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 1 2008, 05:11 PM) [snapback]505640[/snapback]
No idea, I'll ask Chris Miller next time I see him rolleyes.gif



What would Midge know about addiction?
mortonjag 2008-09-01 17:16:36
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 30 2008, 10:55 AM) [snapback]503853[/snapback]
Hauck twin buggy "shopper duo".

navy blue, winnie the pooh motif.

£50

don't all rush at once!

What colour is the Winnie the POUFFE motif?
mortonjag 2008-09-01 17:26:08
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Aug 31 2008, 09:56 PM) [snapback]505144[/snapback]
WHY?

It's quite simple-and I'll take it BTT again.

Shimmin (Farrell), Mabawsa (Cowden) and a few other creeps have scraped the bottom of the barrel in an attempt to discredit Mortonjag.

You appeared to ask the question in good faith, and in that spirit I've requested guidance from the MDDUS. I may not get a speedy answer as I'm no longer a member, but I've every confidence that they will provide an answer which will allow us to draw the thread to a conclusion.

In the interim (and while not busy stirring turkey sh1te) Shimmin is at liberty to BTT it as often as he feels the urge. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-01 17:33:56
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 1 2008, 03:47 PM) [snapback]505548[/snapback]
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Three bedroom detached in Crookfur. Saw one in the estate agents I passed by today. Fixed price £212,000.

I immediately spotted that too-thae hooses aff the Baurrheid Road wi' the separate lock ups-that bloody atrocity will be lucky to fetch £200,000!
mortonjag 2008-09-01 17:43:22 Can I add my tuppence worth-oh well I'm going to anyway. RACIST SPOTTER ALERT.

Only problem is I can PROVE THIS!!

Church on the Hill yesterday-full-watching OF game-about 60/40 Hun/Tim-good natured -no colours.

Three Asians (in their twenties) muscled in without buying drinks. Started shouting abusive comments at the Ref (f*ck off ya proddy b*astard) and OF player (called him a hun c*nt).

Huckled off by staff after a neutral (Thistle) fan reported them!!!

What was that all about? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-01 17:46:39 I'm not easily scared either by beasties or blood and gore. The sight of septuagenarians holding microphones fills me with terror.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 17:55:06
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Aug 30 2008, 10:23 PM) [snapback]504486[/snapback]
This is great - we've found something you are TRULY appalling at !

Magic ! Another howler.

TonInDublin

I still think you're gay but let's pass
To George and the use of his ass
It's really not funny
But crammed full of money
He sh1ts only skitters and gas.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 18:03:14
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 1 2008, 05:08 PM) [snapback]505632[/snapback]
Isn't the use of the term 'give her one' in itself rather mysogenous? Ya auld hypocrite.

If you're going to keep claiming the moral high ground you're going to end up making a cnut of yourself sooner or later I suppose.

So make your mind up Tom, is it OK for hetrosexual men to lust after attractive women or not? rolleyes.gif

Not in the slightest, though that is the common misperception of those who see women as 'being shagged' and men as 'shaggers'.

Would YOU let her give you one?

I certainly would! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-01 18:07:03
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 1 2008, 05:31 PM) [snapback]505670[/snapback]
How in the wee mans name can someone think about it and never intend to do it, and even more amazing how the f*** would anyone else be able to say 100% that they would never do it.

Paedo's by their nature are coniving slippery b*****ds and I bet every single one of them said at some time they fancied kids but would never do the crime.

What a f***ing ridiculous argument.

Ask any Catholic Priest-oops-I mean about having heterosexual relations!
mortonjag 2008-09-01 18:10:16
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 1 2008, 05:46 PM) [snapback]505697[/snapback]
Exactly, why is he still here, you will love this one but Peter is DDFs golden boy, he can do no wrong.

Watching Peter pratically break the bookies door down 1 hour before a home game last season to get his habitual betting slip 'on' while adorned with his Morton gear AFTER all the s*** that went on before regarding bookies was the final straw for me. (and this was not the first time)
He has taken Morton fans for mugs for years, bevvying far too much, not applying himself enough at training, betting ridiculous amounts of money and generally living the high life while not knuckling down to his job.

His lifestyle will not allow him to develop as a player and quite frankly I don't think he gives a f***, our club 'rewarded' him with a 3 year contract, how mental is that, he is now finacially secure for 3 years even if he ends up like Bella from Russ Abbots show.

He was one of the gang who ran to DDF to have Cowboy punted, whether Cowboy deserved it or not he still undermined the gaffer, all because he banned them from getting pished in their favourite holes and we know from history which side DDF took.

Are you suggesting that the Chairman has favourites?
mortonjag 2008-09-01 18:13:14
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 1 2008, 05:10 PM) [snapback]505637[/snapback]
Does he f***.
Bearing in mind Thistle got Superstar Stevie Lennon (who has been tipped to take the division apart but has contributed 0 goals from 3 games) Clyde have simply been given another bunch of cast-offs.
Big difference from playing at youth level into this standard of "football".

He has!

QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 1 2008, 05:39 PM) [snapback]505685[/snapback]
aye, when he's helping painting his granny's house on a sunday for her. He's good at that, cant fault his effort.

Is that his Granny McGuffie or the other one?
mortonjag 2008-09-01 18:15:44
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 1 2008, 06:10 PM) [snapback]505729[/snapback]
I see they bottled being at the top of the league too... rolleyes.gif

Maybe he was sacked for failing to keep them in top spot. They're an ambitious club you know-ask Craig Thomson.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 18:46:25
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 1 2008, 05:16 PM) [snapback]505646[/snapback]
No idea, but he uses the same bookies as Peter, so maybe he would have an idea if its at the addiction stage
I think someone has a wee soft spot for a certain player wub.gif

Mr Rae by all accounts!
mortonjag 2008-09-01 18:50:07
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 1 2008, 06:43 PM) [snapback]505753[/snapback]
Of course I would (assuming neither of us were married or in a long-term relationship, obviously). rolleyes.gif

According to Tom though admitting to it makes you misogynous and not admitting to it makes you gay. wacko.gif

Was that really what he said?

I'd definitely give her one.

Please tell me I'm not a misogynous POUFFE!
mortonjag 2008-09-01 18:55:25
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 1 2008, 05:08 PM) [snapback]505633[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-09-01 18:57:21
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 1 2008, 06:41 PM) [snapback]505751[/snapback]
Defo integrating into the community. laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-09-01 19:00:24
QUOTE(centralTON @ Sep 1 2008, 06:55 PM) [snapback]505764[/snapback]
Are you starring in this role Davie. wink.gif

He is, but it's called: Three men eat mouse in a boat.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 19:02:36
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Sep 1 2008, 06:51 PM) [snapback]505760[/snapback]
Spot on.
Certainly explains why DDFR ran to the dugout once Peter was subbed (according to those at the game).

Issues like that can cause managers to chuck it.

Are you suggesting Mr Rae went to console him?
mortonjag 2008-09-01 19:25:09
QUOTE(Capuan @ Sep 1 2008, 07:14 PM) [snapback]505769[/snapback]
mortonjag 2008-09-01 19:27:07
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 1 2008, 07:16 PM) [snapback]505770[/snapback]
Yes.

I refer the right honourable gentleman to the following two posts....

He didn't say anything in the second quote-it was a wee picture of a clothes hanger and fingz.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 19:29:47
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 1 2008, 06:47 PM) [snapback]505758[/snapback]
The captaincy is over-rated guff. It almost serves no purpose...

I think that's pretty accurate those days-though any natural 'leader' should be captain. We've not had one of those for ages.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 19:31:52
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Sep 1 2008, 07:21 PM) [snapback]505772[/snapback]
You know when I saw "Jc", my initial thought was John Collins. laugh.gif

When you really meant Derek Christ?
mortonjag 2008-09-01 19:33:46
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Sep 1 2008, 07:30 PM) [snapback]505779[/snapback]
Watching someone with fabric in their mouth, like biting their t-shirt or something. Gives me goosebumps just thinking about it. And the sound of people cracking their fingers. My sister used to torment me when I was a kid, so much so that she actually made me physically sick one time.

A lot of that goes on in Pishley.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 19:35:16 Heebie-jeebies

Meaning

A feeling of anxiety, apprehension or illness.

Origin

The sound of this term seems to hark back to earlier rhyming phrases, like hocus-pocus and mumbo-jumbo, with a touch of the jitters thrown in. The meaning is more like the British term - the screaming habdabs.

Heebie and jeebie don't mean anything as independent words and heebie jeebies was coined at a time and place when there was a spate of new nonsense rhyming pairs, called rhyming reduplications, - the bee's knees, etc., i.e. 1920s USA.

Billy de BeckThe term is widely attributed to William Morgan "Billy" de Beck. The first citation of it in print is certainly in a 1923 cartoon of his, in the 26th October edition of the New York American:

"You dumb ox - why don't you get that stupid look offa your pan - you gimme the heeby jeebys!"

Heebie jeebies caught on quickly and very soon began appearing in many newspapers and works of literature in the USA and, from 1927 onward, the UK. For example, here's an entry from the Van Nuys News, 6th November 1923, just a few days after de Beck's cartoon was published:

"Bill Alton showed up poorly in center field. The boys seemed to have the heebie jeebies."

The lack of any explanation in either of the above citations seems to imply that the term would have been known to the readership of both publications by the time of printing.

The speed of take-up of heebie jeebies, in a similar way to another coinage that is attributed to de Beck - horse feathers, heebie jeebiesdoes suggest an origin in the media rather than street slang, which tends to spread more slowly.

The term became part of the language quickly enough for it to begin appearing in advertisements from 1924 onwards, as in this illustration from the Mexia Daily News, October 1924, in an advert for a cold cure.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 19:38:09
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 1 2008, 07:25 PM) [snapback]505773[/snapback]
Link
"Feeling stressed or anxious at an inability to access the Internet? Don't worry, you're not alone and now there's a word for it: "discomgoogolation".

Nearly half of Britons -- 44 percent -- are discomgoogolation sufferers, according to a survey, with over a quarter -- 27 percent -- admitting to rising stress levels when they are unable to go online.

"The proliferation of broadband has meant for the first time in history we've entered a culture of 'instant answers,'" said psychologist Dr David Lewis, who identified discomgoogolation by measuring heart rates and brainwave activity.

The term comes from "discombobulate," which means to confuse or frustrate.

"A galaxy of information is just a mouse click away and we have become addicted to the web," added Lewis. "When unable to get online, discomgoogolation takes over.

"It was surprising to see the stress this led to brain activity and blood pressure in participants both increase in response to being cut off from the Internet."

The survey also found 76 percent of Britons could not live without the Internet, with over half of the population using the web between one and four hours a day and 19 percent of people spending more time online than with their family in a week.

Forty-seven percent of those polled believed the Internet was more important in people's lives than religion, with one in five people paying the Internet more attention than their partner."
MJ is that you ignoring the Monkey yet again? laugh.gif

Don't be silly-Munx, Fing and I sit at this keyboard from morning to night without a trace of discombobulation!
mortonjag 2008-09-01 19:39:40
QUOTE(C B @ Sep 1 2008, 07:36 PM) [snapback]505783[/snapback]
NONE of the 6 1st divison teams drawn together dry.gif

Why has your picture slowed down?
mortonjag 2008-09-01 19:49:15
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 1 2008, 07:42 PM) [snapback]505789[/snapback]
Although this Tatou does it for me.... wub.gif

Another Tatou!
mortonjag 2008-09-01 20:12:24
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Sep 1 2008, 07:53 PM) [snapback]505797[/snapback]
As has been said elsewhere it wasn't Rae it was the club doctor who was in the dugout after Cuthbert went off.

I'm so glad about that. I don't want anybody confusing Mr Rae with a doctor.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 20:14:11
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 1 2008, 07:37 PM) [snapback]505785[/snapback]
A simple yes or no would have done for leyton. wink.gif

Besides, however wrong they are, you can't convict someone for just having these thoughts (just as you wouldn't jail someone who was just thinking about killing, or committing any other crime for that matter). I know we're in a big brother state, but we've not got to 1984 levels yet.

As soon as they cross the line into actually acting on these thoughts, then it becomes a different story.

I'd like to shag you Naitch!
mortonjag 2008-09-01 20:17:04
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 1 2008, 07:42 PM) [snapback]505790[/snapback]
He expressed incredulity at Sick Mick's claim he wouldn't 'give her one' then added an attachment inferring he must be gay as a consequence, which seemed to contradict his original statement that those who admitted they would indulge in carnal knowledge with the Republican Vice-Presidential candidate were guilty of misogyny.

The obvious conclusion is that his original expression of disgust at the 'Nats' was not based on a heartfelt conviction about sexism, but petty and childish political point scoring.

I don't think Dr Bam would ever do anything of the kind.

Anyway I'd 'give her one all right' and Sir Cliff's arse makes the tip of my tadger tingle.

Does that put me in a political no man's land?
mortonjag 2008-09-01 20:23:20
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Sep 1 2008, 08:13 PM) [snapback]505808[/snapback]
I can't find a transcipt of the golf club story, but I did come across this advice on the RICS website:

"If you are already a Trustee, Director or Officer of, for example, a voluntary organisation or sports or social club (whether a registered charity or not) you will almost certainly be relied upon as a “professionally qualified” person.

This reliance may, unreasonably, go further than it should. It is reasonable for your fellow committee or board members to rely upon your professional advice as a Surveyor and, subject to what has been said above, you can be insured for that. It is not, however, reasonable for them to rely upon your professional status as a Surveyor for any other advice whatsoever"

Indeed. I believe the crux of the matter is what can reasonably be construed as professional advice in the case of a retired professional and a bona fide 'friend' who has asked for an 'opinion'.

As I say, I'll hopefully get a response soon.

If not, I'll write to the English lot, and tell them the Scottish lot couldn't help.

Mortonjag will get an answer!
mortonjag 2008-09-01 20:28:43
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 1 2008, 08:26 PM) [snapback]505812[/snapback]
I don't want anyone confusing you with a Doctor. Should have got a second opinion on my need for a prostate exam.

Careful darling-Uncle Jaggy's feeling vulnerable about his quackery. You WERE impressed by the dead bodies in the cellar.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 20:36:37
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 1 2008, 08:26 PM) [snapback]505813[/snapback]
Someones coming! i can feel it in my bones.
.....or maybe thats arthritis.

Mr Donald is jetting in from 'Out of the Country' right now. He'll land at Glasgow Airport on the stroke of four and a half minutes past nine to be met by a beaming Mr Rae, who will hand over the club for £10,000, a lifetime seat in the Director's Box, Live is Life to be played at every game, and one million pounds for every goal scored by Kieran McAnespie in the remainder of his career.

Alistair already has pre contract arrangements with fifteen current premiership players-it's a done deal. The new state of the art stadium will be flown in on Friday, and assembled overnight on a hitherto undisclosed spot, though rumour has it that it won't be the Battery Park.

mortonjag 2008-09-01 20:39:31
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 1 2008, 08:32 PM) [snapback]505818[/snapback]
well they were arranged in order of height, weight and size of genitalia which i have to admit impressed me slightly. But back to topic, whats the topic again?

'Discuss the role of turkey sh1te in the defrocking of a charlatan'.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 20:41:56
QUOTE(Trust Member @ Sep 1 2008, 08:38 PM) [snapback]505825[/snapback]
And if Im not is that OK?
Is there a new rule on this board that members of the trust can only post if they tell you their name?
I dont think I have ever claimed to speak on behalf of the trust.

Thank goodness. You sound semi-intelligent and I'd hate my vision shattered.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 20:43:36
QUOTE(C B @ Sep 1 2008, 08:40 PM) [snapback]505828[/snapback]
It hasn't? Perhaps your time concept has sped up to blue bottle proportions happy.gif
DUH ! Of course blush.gif

Don't argue with me!

It's up to speed now.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 20:44:57
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 1 2008, 08:43 PM) [snapback]505834[/snapback]
Are DDFR and Craig Spiers twins or something? Few cases of mistaken identity on this thread.

NO
mortonjag 2008-09-01 20:47:08
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 1 2008, 08:41 PM) [snapback]505830[/snapback]
Just saw that Steven Pressley has signed for FC Randers of Denmark...that's one veteran defender we can't get our hands on then. rolleyes.gif

I once knew a Fr. Randers.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 20:51:36
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 1 2008, 08:33 PM) [snapback]505821[/snapback]
What, this guys arse?

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDNOPE
mortonjag 2008-09-01 20:52:26
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 1 2008, 08:38 PM) [snapback]505826[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-09-01 20:53:21
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 1 2008, 08:45 PM) [snapback]505836[/snapback]
Are DDFR and Craig Spiers twins or something? Few cases of mistaken identity on this thread.

NO
mortonjag 2008-09-01 20:54:18
QUOTE(scullerypress @ Sep 1 2008, 08:49 PM) [snapback]505840[/snapback]
Source??

Fing.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 21:16:40 I think we'll finish 5th.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 21:20:04
QUOTE(Trust Member @ Sep 1 2008, 08:56 PM) [snapback]505852[/snapback]
So do you sometimes.

You wouldn't believe it if I told you.

I do my best. I was thinking of changing my name to non-trust member. It has a certain ring of independence!
mortonjag 2008-09-01 21:23:16
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 1 2008, 08:58 PM) [snapback]505856[/snapback]
He was never Sir. CBE but not Sir.

He wasn't a singing POUFFE you see!
mortonjag 2008-09-01 21:26:47 Mr Rae has just been spotted at the autoteller.
mortonjag 2008-09-01 21:27:46
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Sep 1 2008, 09:21 PM) [snapback]505881[/snapback]
Fair enough.

FAIRY NUFF
mortonjag 2008-09-01 21:30:02 laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-01 21:32:13
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Sep 1 2008, 09:30 PM) [snapback]505890[/snapback]
What a surprise - Mortonjag post whoring, who'd a thunk it.



post wh*re


1. A newbie to an online forum who goes into overtime posting many short and usually meaningless posts in an attempt to raise their post count to pass the newbie stage ASAP.


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mortonjag 2008-09-01 21:37:45
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Sep 1 2008, 09:08 PM) [snapback]505868[/snapback]
Watch theadvert next time its on.
The guy on it is a dead ringer for our own bus organising se65an!

Him?

mortonjag 2008-09-01 21:38:56
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Sep 1 2008, 09:36 PM) [snapback]505893[/snapback]
sobriety gives you the heebies tongue.gif

Delirium tremens to the educated! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-01 21:40:17 140
mortonjag 2008-09-02 06:12:07
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 2 2008, 01:25 AM) [snapback]506088[/snapback]
Gidday Stuart,

Firstly, my apologies for spelling your name incorrectly yesterday.

I cannot see any recent Ton specific updates on the Trust website apart from the Youth Development Donations.

Maybe Spotty et al don't really want to know about Mr Donald. Their current share in the club is as useful as a fart in a spacesuit. If Donald came in, their perceived power would totally vanish with a POUFFE.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 06:27:09
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 2 2008, 01:46 AM) [snapback]506093[/snapback]
With the current share issue, is it not an excellent time for the Trust to seek more members and increase its holding in the Ton from 4.6% ?

I really am bamboozled by this.

Are you saying that the Trust could buy out Mr Rae in the near future?

What are Spotty et al waiting for?
mortonjag 2008-09-02 06:52:53
QUOTE(Last Boat Home @ Aug 31 2008, 11:49 AM) [snapback]504820[/snapback]
Its been said before but rather than attacking the trust why not join it and benefit everyone with your superior knowledge and intellect ????

Let it go you bitter twisted old man dry.gif

How will a bitter twisted old man be able to benefit everyone by joining a disorganisation that's so skint and feckless that it could only shell out less than 10% of its potential investment in Mr Rae's latest offering.

If you really want to SPOT bitterness look no further than utterly unwarranted attacks on this poster for daring to question 'caput in ano' pronouncements like this-made only a few short months ago!


The Greenock Morton Supporters' Society, the Supporters’ Trust, is a visionary and successful way for fans to participate in owning their club, boldly putting the fans at the centre of everything it does. It's the embodiment of an ideal, the outcome of nearly a decade of endeavour to create a different sort of fan ownership, owned by fans dedicated to the success of Greenock Morton Football Club.




The Trust-in its current form, and in terms of its statutory intention is an anachronistic joke, perpetuated by utter apathy and ignorance within the fan base, the blinkered and self protective ego massaging of a couple of middle aged nobodies, and the genuine but misguided efforts of a small band of disciples.

signed


Bitter twisted old man.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 07:09:56
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 2 2008, 06:50 AM) [snapback]506106[/snapback]
Well, I know who Spotty is ... he eats raw meat.

But who is Al ?

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You haven't heard of Al-Newt?
Is he a myth?
Is he 'Out of the Country'?
Is he finalising his five page answer to the Trust's question posed two months ago?

If you meant 'al' it's a Latin abbreviation for 'alia' meaning 'others', and is most commonly encountered in the term 'alias'.

As in (chosen entirely at random)

Spot Ton alias Raw Meat Eater.

Mabawsa Ritchie alias menial pen pusher

Shimmin Ton alias Mower Man

Mortonjag alias Bitter twisted old man.


Happy to help!

mortonjag 2008-09-02 07:18:06
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 2 2008, 07:03 AM) [snapback]506109[/snapback]
How will a bitter twisted old man be able to benefit everyone by joining a disorganisation that's so skint and feckless that it could only shell out less than 10% of its potential investment in Mr Rae's latest offering.

Gidday MJ,

I don't know about the bitter and twisted old man, but there appears to be some twisted logic in your statement.

All of the funds in "Mr Rae's latest offering" are to be spent on Cappielow.

Work is at least 18 months away.

And, I believe, the offer is open for 5 years.

Somewhere, Sugar Rae said, and of course I am paraphasing:

If the other shareholders put in a million pounds, he will put in a million pounds as well.

I am not very good at arithmetic but:

GC has 75.1%

GMFCST has 4.6%

So, if the other shareholders put in 1,000,000 pounds and GC puts in 1,000,000 then, what happens ?

Apart from The New Improved Cappielow ready for the SPL.

I'm not surprised to have got it quite wrong again Newt-I really do get bamboozled by financial matters. Should I start eating raw meat?

Anyway it's absolutely fantastic to learn that the Trust is sticking a cool million into ground improvements.

I can see them in a new light already. Will Shimmin Ton be getting a new state of the art sit on mower complete with blinkers and laptop?
mortonjag 2008-09-02 07:26:31
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 2 2008, 07:16 AM) [snapback]506112[/snapback]
What's a menial pen ?

Should every household have one ?

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You stick to the MUNNY Newt!

I said 'Menial Pen Pusher'.

Menial-adjective

Pen -noun

Push-verb

As in pen pusher (menial) and not pusher of menial pen!


If I HAD to think of a meaning for Menial Pen-well perhaps pigsty would spring to mind, or sheepfold, or........Kennels, though you'll probably spot a slight deviation from the strict meaning of pen in the final example.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 07:30:35
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 2 2008, 07:12 AM) [snapback]506111[/snapback]
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oops - I thought Al is Mr Donald.

I sure got that one wrong.

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MJ, did you see Mr Donald at Easter Road and/or New Broomfield ?

'Fraid not Newt-in fact I can state categorically he wasn't there as Fing was out on recce.

Wouldn't be surprised if he was on the 'phone from 'Out of the Country' at 4.45 p.m. on Saturday mind you!
mortonjag 2008-09-02 07:32:44
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 2 2008, 04:54 AM) [snapback]506100[/snapback]
200+ members and less than 10 attended the AGM ? ?

If that is correct, something is seriously amiss.

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Correct on all counts.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 07:34:40
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 2 2008, 07:29 AM) [snapback]506115[/snapback]
Jack Hughes !!!

I have solved the riddle.

MJ, do you wish to confess ?

You work for AD, don't you ?

Otherwise you wouldn't know that his letter is 5 pages long.

Unless, of course, you are on the board of the Trust.

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mortonjag 2008-09-02 07:47:26
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 2 2008, 01:39 AM) [snapback]506092[/snapback]
The Trust paid 118,000 pounds for 4.6% of the Ton

That gives a value of 2,565,217 pounds.

Hmm-and if 1000 devoted fans had stuck a mere £1 a day for the last seven years into a well spread managed fund, they'd now have enough to buy the old Sweetie Wife out right now with plenty to spare.

Just a thought from a bitter twisted old man.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 07:52:22
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 2 2008, 07:35 AM) [snapback]506119[/snapback]
Gidday MJ,

Don't be daft - please read what I wrote.

If the Trust AND the other minority shareholders, contribute 1,000,000 pounds, then GC will do the same.

GC has 75.1%

GMFCST has 4.6%

Therefore the other minority shareholders have 20.3%

So, I don't believe that the Trust would be allowed to purchase 1,333,333 shares.

If they did, the other shareholders would miss out, wouldn't they ?

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So Shimmin Ton WON'T be getting his all new state of the art sit on mower with blinkers and laptop after all? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-02 07:54:51
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 2 2008, 07:41 AM) [snapback]506122[/snapback]
don't be coy.

tell us the whole story PLEASE

I'll have to get permission first and Al's 'Out of the Country'.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 07:58:21
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 2 2008, 07:38 AM) [snapback]506121[/snapback]
Wouldn't he just listen to Andy's webcast, if he was out of the country ?

A lot cheaper than a phone call.

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Ah-there's the rub

Al is a little bit chary about anything to do with the Trust. He's a meticulously careful man, and I think he regards them as a competitor when Mr Rae is no longer with us.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 08:23:59
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 2 2008, 07:55 AM) [snapback]506129[/snapback]
Naw - that widdnae work.

If the Trust had:

1,000 members

100% of the Ton

how would it select a manager, players, etc.

Wot's that saying about committees and camels.

Give me a benevolent dictatorship any day of the week.

Are you trying to get into Al's good books?
mortonjag 2008-09-02 08:25:53
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 2 2008, 08:08 AM) [snapback]506132[/snapback]
So, who told YOU about the 5 page letter ?

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It was uninformed speculation Newt.
Uninformed speculation by a bitter twisted old man!
mortonjag 2008-09-02 08:27:49
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 2 2008, 08:14 AM) [snapback]506133[/snapback]
blink.gif blink.gif

Why is Dominic cutting grass ?

Hasn't he played at Arsenal and QPR ?

You MUST be joking.

I think you need a holiday ... or a suspension.

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Newt joins the lynch mob! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-02 08:37:35 cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(big B @ Sep 2 2008, 05:56 AM) [snapback]506101[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Another great piece of buisness by the Morton management and board, if you read this rag you really are a joke and need to have a good look at yourselves.[/quote]





That's a very confusing statement. Are you being sarcastic about the Club, the posters, or both?

At face value it's a TERRIBLE piece of business, and it's hardly going to go unnoticed that Jon Newby was left by Irons to carry the can for the defeat at Dundee and has hardly featured since.

We NEEDED signings and predictably didn't get them. We DID NOT need a weaker squad.

What the f*ck's going on--are we about to hear of two or three emergency loans in the next week or two?


I bloody well hope so.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 08:45:26
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 2 2008, 12:18 AM) [snapback]506038[/snapback]
When are we going to stop being a joke club? i said earlier that the only way to get fans back on side after saturday was a big name signing. Letting go one of our players where we have no cover is just stupid.

Anytime you get slightly excited about being a Morton fan the club or players find a new way to f*** us over.

When we are rid of our joke of a Chairman, his up arse joke minions who couldn't run a 'free shag' in a brothel, and we have an experienced Manager with resources to build a decent squad.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 09:33:24
QUOTE(Ghost @ Sep 2 2008, 09:03 AM) [snapback]506151[/snapback]
From what i heard this morning, things are not good at scappa wink.gif

Has The Chairman taken ill?
mortonjag 2008-09-02 10:25:04
QUOTE(Ghost @ Sep 2 2008, 09:48 AM) [snapback]506159[/snapback]
Naa, and i wouldnt wish that on anyone.
Players MJ, players ph34r.gif

The players are sick?

QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 2 2008, 09:55 AM) [snapback]506162[/snapback]
I am very surprised that our tactic of signing cr4p players and then lending them out has continued under Irons. If he's not what we need, why sign him in the first place? What is it with Morton that we don't seem to be capable of signing good players? McManus - hopeless. Newby - hopeless. Wake - disappointing although there may be something there. Masterton - jury still out. Stevenson and Millar - left.

Look at the players other teams are signing. Our squad has got second division written all over it, Jim McAllister excepted. Or maybe 8th place at best. Something needs to change.

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QUOTE(Mags @ Sep 2 2008, 10:17 AM) [snapback]506170[/snapback]
Newby was still living down South.He only trained with the team two days a week....not an ideal arrangement in my opinion.
I'd take a guess and say it was his decision to leave.
Mags.

Did he jump or was he pushed? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-02 10:29:11
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 2 2008, 08:30 AM) [snapback]506143[/snapback]
would you prefer exile ... et al.

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At the moment I'd settle for Al!
mortonjag 2008-09-02 10:30:47
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 2 2008, 08:47 AM) [snapback]506147[/snapback]
would that be Mj et al ?

or al et mj ?

Al and the monkey could do better than the current shambles.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 10:35:46
QUOTE(Harper McGhee @ Sep 2 2008, 10:31 AM) [snapback]506180[/snapback]
Sounds pretty final whatever happened.

http://www.gmfc.net/News/&action=fullnews&id=49

Manager David Irons said "John has gone to Burton Albion on loan until the beginning of January. It was agreed by both parties that things hadn't worked out the way we would have liked since he came to Morton."

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mortonjag 2008-09-02 10:41:04 If what I'm hearing and reading is true, the captaincy is the least of our current worries.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 10:44:15
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 2 2008, 09:48 AM) [snapback]506158[/snapback]
Gidday MJ,

Give him time.

He's only been a Morton supporter for 3 weeks.
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I'd not be surprised if he's been a Morton employee for MUCH longer! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-02 10:49:04
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 2 2008, 10:45 AM) [snapback]506189[/snapback]
Aye, sadly, the week has just begun.

It never rains ...

I have received a couple of VERY disturbing emails.

Expect more news on http://gmfc.net/Home/ this afternoon.

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Good gracious-is Cappie in hospital again?
mortonjag 2008-09-02 10:54:03
QUOTE(SramTon @ Sep 1 2008, 11:42 PM) [snapback]505961[/snapback]
Henderson v Merrett 1995 (English case but followed in Scotland): a duty of care arises where the defendant has voluntarily assumed responsibility for the economic interests of the plaintiff with the knowledge that the plaintiff is relying on the defendant's expertise.

That relates to pure economic loss, and is likely to be relevant to solicitors, surveyors etc. A disclaimer is therefore a not bad idea in order to demonstrate that responsibility has not been assumed.

Where it is medical advice that is being given, and the prospect is of physical bodily harm then I think its more a straightforward Donoghue v Stevenson liability. Duty of care owed towards the recipient of that advice and (probably) foreseeable consequences if that medical advice is duff.

Anyway, I'm going to include another disclaimer: I assume no responsibility to anyone for the accuracy of the foregoing.

Link?
mortonjag 2008-09-02 10:55:59
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Sep 2 2008, 10:26 AM) [snapback]506176[/snapback]
Maybe she killed him?

Any sign of a helicopter?
mortonjag 2008-09-02 11:00:50
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 2 2008, 10:58 AM) [snapback]506204[/snapback]
The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams.
Does that mean the future belongs to the Ton ?

Nope-it means some clown said something ridiculous.

The future belongs to those who don't die NOW.

Mortonjag.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 11:04:01
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 2 2008, 10:46 AM) [snapback]506191[/snapback]
Ron plays for the Ton.

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In which position?
mortonjag 2008-09-02 11:20:38
QUOTE(Davie @ Sep 2 2008, 11:17 AM) [snapback]506213[/snapback]
Ignore them, they both know hee-haw and just seek attention. smile.gif

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Last night when I went up the stair
I saw a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish that man would go away.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 11:23:52
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Sep 2 2008, 11:17 AM) [snapback]506214[/snapback]
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Is DI transmuting to JM?
mortonjag 2008-09-02 11:36:26
QUOTE(PCP @ Sep 2 2008, 11:32 AM) [snapback]506225[/snapback]
Saw the boy in the gym a few times in Greenock, cut a bit of a lonely figure to be honest.

All the best to him.

If only Zoe had known-he might still be here-he only needed to score a couple of times you know! mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-02 11:39:32
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 2 2008, 11:28 AM) [snapback]506221[/snapback]
Is that common this time of day ???

Very strange ?

fing sez thare prawbly vulchers.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 11:41:55
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 2 2008, 11:26 AM) [snapback]506220[/snapback]
I tell you, MJ ... it was that bloody phone call.

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Al will be revealed!
mortonjag 2008-09-02 11:43:54
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 2 2008, 11:40 AM) [snapback]506230[/snapback]
He's only away on loan - Zoe could be his pen pal ASAP.

smile.gif

A proper pen pal?
mortonjag 2008-09-02 11:59:17
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 2 2008, 11:49 AM) [snapback]506236[/snapback]
Now Mr Jag, are you talking about the infamous Big Blue Jugs as if she were a real "girl"? I thought it was only The Mortonbug that believed she was for real? rolleyes.gif

I just like to keep an open mind Mrs T.

I have no strong feelings about the said Zoe.

If indeed it's a man, I'm still impressed by its picture! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-02 12:00:48
QUOTE(Jackie @ Sep 2 2008, 11:49 AM) [snapback]506237[/snapback]
Why do people feel the need to do this? Do people post stuff like this just so when the s*** hits the fan they can say they knew about it first? If it's going to come out why not just tell everyone?

This hush hush stuff just adds more flames to the fire and doesn't help anyone.

Sounds like you know more than you're saying! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-02 12:08:24
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Sep 2 2008, 12:04 PM) [snapback]506249[/snapback]
No action to be taken against Weatherson - a quote from Irons in today's Evening Times:

"I watched the DVD of the game and I am aware of no angry reaction from Peter. No professional likes to be substituted before the break so I wouldn't expect him to be happy. But now all our focus is on Queen of the South."

There's a thread on that topic.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 12:12:21
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 2 2008, 12:09 PM) [snapback]506252[/snapback]
thats not quite true, now the value invested is worth 4.6% but you have to remember there have been 4 share issues in that time which has altered the % of the share holding

Have those share issues devalued the Trust's investment?
mortonjag 2008-09-02 12:37:40
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 2 2008, 12:31 PM) [snapback]506266[/snapback]
the first two we increased the value of our investment, by the time the 3rd and 4th came it did, as remember to stay at the same percentage we needed to buy the same amount of shares we had before even increasing the amount we had.

In other words, unless the Trust finds some way to massively boost interest in its effectiveness as the financial 'voice of the fans', it's becoming a bit of a 'white elephant'?
mortonjag 2008-09-02 12:41:39
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Sep 2 2008, 12:34 PM) [snapback]506267[/snapback]
The change was made 15 minutes too late, which probably caused us the game. He should have come off after about 20 minutes and we should have went to 4-4-2 as he was getting an absolute roasting by their right midfielder. Irons reacted to the issue way too slowly.

We didn't trouble their goalie very much!
mortonjag 2008-09-02 12:54:01
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Sep 2 2008, 12:46 PM) [snapback]506278[/snapback]
That is a very good point, but even at 2-0 down the game is still salvagable(sp?). Had we shored up with 4 at the back at that stage, and even closed out the half, we could have recovered in the 2nd half. A long shot I know, but at 3-0 down by the 34th minute or so the heads were down, and they weren't coming back up.

I think sometimes you just have to honestly accept when you're well and truly gubbed.

Weatherson was NEVER a full back (right or left) despite the fact that so many bought into the utter crap that he and JM talked, but the truth is that on Saturday we were well outplayed in every department from an utterly feckless goalkeeper through a fragmented defence, and non existent midfield to an attack which the Airdrie boys had on toast from the kick off.

What I think about Saturday was that we just failed to turn up en masse, and we can't blame our midweek cup tie as Airdrie beat Hearts the night after our victory.

Just a bad day at the office, or something more sinister?
mortonjag 2008-09-02 13:03:56
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Sep 2 2008, 12:55 PM) [snapback]506287[/snapback]
I'm really annoyed to see Irons do an Arsene Wenger and say he didn't see anything when, as you say, the whole Morton support saw it. I'd have more respect for Irons if he simply came out and said he thinks Peter was justified in being annoyed as he was sarcastically cheered - if that's the reason he is backing him by saying he didn't see anything.

Which begs the question. WHY?

Up till now DI has come over as an honest, up front, refreshing improvement on the Muppet whom Mr Rae wanted to keep.

He's now reacting to pressure IMO.

What kind of pressure and from where?
mortonjag 2008-09-02 13:17:18
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Sep 2 2008, 01:12 PM) [snapback]506295[/snapback]
00000000hhhh............................let me guess.

go on ,let me, let me rolleyes.gif

Guess away cloth ears-here are some suggestions.


The Chairman.

The players

His wife and family

The Bank Manager

The fans!!!


One thing's for sure-he's definitely reacting to pressure.

Another thing's for sure-your post was even less funny than usual. smile.gif


mortonjag 2008-09-02 13:22:58
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Sep 2 2008, 01:17 PM) [snapback]506300[/snapback]
Donoghue v Stevenson was the famous case where there was a bit of decomposed animal found in a sealed ginger ale bottle. It is often used to illustrate that the manufacturer of the ginger ale had a duty of care to the purchaser. Professional people, therefore, have a duty of care to those who they advise.

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mortonjag 2008-09-02 14:36:43
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 2 2008, 11:51 AM) [snapback]506239[/snapback]
laugh.gif He lives quite near the cemetary as well. ph34r.gif ohmy.gif

I knew it was near the dead centre of town.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 14:43:50
QUOTE(grnklad2006ton @ Sep 2 2008, 01:26 PM) [snapback]506303[/snapback]
Whats the bad news ???? Just saw that in the Greenock tellegraph, oh well can't say for one second that he will be missed. Told a few before the season started he was nothing special and now he s on loan, rest my case wink.gif .

Your case, as you describe it, would only be valid if he's been shipped because he wasn't adequate.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 14:47:14
QUOTE(Edinton @ Sep 2 2008, 01:35 PM) [snapback]506307[/snapback]
I tell you, Hibs must be really, REALLY bad because I thought we were excellent last Tuesday. No idea what team turned up on Saturday but doesn't sound like the same one.

We were excellent-what did your Hibee friends think?

On Saturday we just failed to turn up, and TOO many folk are writing Airdrie off-they have an astute manager and beat Hearts which I think was an even greater achievement than ours, given their lack of preparation as a first division side.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 15:29:11
QUOTE(Edinton @ Sep 2 2008, 03:12 PM) [snapback]506351[/snapback]
That if they'd taken their chances they would have won by about 6 or 7. That we had the referee on our side. That their defence is awful and we were sooo jammy.

I took offence at all their - and Mixu's - whining about the ref and repeatedly mentioned that at no point was our performance mentioned by any of them, and mentioned that we were 2 nil up on our terms and it took 2 wonder goals to get them even.

I was looking for a reaction from Morton on Saturday but we were probably playing the worst possible team because sure enough they produced the sort of performance you'd expect from a team still exuberant from a great result in mid-week.

In other words their noses were in a poke! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-02 15:38:06
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Sep 2 2008, 02:18 PM) [snapback]506327[/snapback]
Let's get this straight. McCormack was punted from Cappielow because even at the start of the season, we were still having to score 5 or 6 goals at home to beat the likes of Stenhousemuir and Arbroath. Defensively, he was even wrose at organising than McInally. That kind of result isn't going to keep happening, it was inevitable that at some stage goals would dry up and we would have no plan b. Regardless of off-field shenanigans, McCormack still wasn't all that great, and should have been punted in February of that year, the new contract he received is just further proof of the hopelessness of the current regime.
Perhaps it is worth questioning just why he has been shown the door so many times even when things seem ok on the surface, rather than getting the violins out for him? And if he gives up a job on the basis of a promise from the chairman, rather than the guy he was going to be assisting, then he's an even bigger fool.

So it had nothing to do with the dressing room?
mortonjag 2008-09-02 15:42:23
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Aug 31 2008, 08:33 PM) [snapback]505100[/snapback]
The first team resembles a pub team and the U-19s is like BB football.


Who DID put Hibs out of the cup!
QUOTE(Last Boat Home @ Aug 31 2008, 11:30 PM) [snapback]505190[/snapback]
Out of interest does your boy play for the 19's? I was told by Derek Collins that they were going to make the 19's fulltime has this happened?

I think the boy Kenny is from Dunoon and I may play him next year against Gourock MSC just to annoy Davie McArthur laugh.gif

There are much easier ways, it would appear! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-02 15:46:46
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 2 2008, 03:37 PM) [snapback]506383[/snapback]
DDFR will need to sell more sweeties first though blink.gif

Millions?
mortonjag 2008-09-02 15:49:31
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 2 2008, 03:05 PM) [snapback]506346[/snapback]
Is he young enough ph34r.gif

Going by his cheek-AYE! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-02 15:51:08
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 2 2008, 03:33 PM) [snapback]506378[/snapback]
Can anyone put us out of our misery, did the randy old bugger go on his date yet? unsure.gif ph34r.gif

He's not been posting at all-I hope everything's OK.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 16:25:13
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Sep 2 2008, 04:07 PM) [snapback]506419[/snapback]
more like rip.gif

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I was talking to the local butcher a couple of days ago. No matter how old you are you still learn something new every day-if you want to!

Apparently they 'hang' the meat for weeks-it has to start decomposing before it tastes best. When it's ready they have to cut off a black (I suppose technically gangrenous) layer before the butchering starts.

Enjoy your next juicy sirloin steak!
mortonjag 2008-09-02 16:41:48 [quote name='Last Boat Home' date='Sep 2 2008, 04:07 PM' post='506418']
Agreed Davie – it’s unbelievable that there can be talk of a ban for attempting to become more annoying than the most annoying person on the board.

When did “Out-Jagging the Jag” become a banning offence?
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It's an alias (or not) designed specifically to target one user, and it's not on - regardless of which user they are targeting.


That was the Mod's opinion in his response to McArthur.

I assume you either missed that or are deliberately condoning behaviour which clearly contravened the forum rules. Either way it seems -shall we say-not very bright!

I can sit quite light to abuse so long as I know the Mods will deal with if if it's taken too far. It's FREQUENTLY been taken too far in the past and I've never complained. Recently there have been deliberate sniping attacks-totally unrelated to the discussion in hand-often using my surname, sometimes attempting to belittle my profession, and on at least three occasions from employees of Greenock Morton, or representatives of GMST.

That sort of abuse will continue to be reported.

I don't know if you realise LBH, but posts like yours only encourage interest in 'the most annoying poster on the board'. If you don't want the Jag mentioned-don't mention him.

Mortonjag is annoying for many reasons, but MOST ANNOYING when he dares to ask uncomfortable questions! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-02 16:52:51
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 2 2008, 03:54 PM) [snapback]506404[/snapback]
Black Street in Glasgow? ph34r.gif

Good God woman-what age are you if you attended Black St?

Anyway-what I meant to say is that Willy Man's one of the forum good guys. Assuming he's not been murdered and didn't get that 'hole' I'll offer him a buckshee shag when he's back.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 16:59:54 What amazes me every time this thread recurs is that folk want to argue varying shades of opinion about how good or bad either set of fans is.

It always strikes me that there's an undercurrent of slight dishonesty-not by any stretch of the imagination closet Hunnery or Timmery but maybe a wee prejudice here and there underlying apparently unbiased posts.

For what it's worth I think one lot is definitely as bad as the other! ph34r.gif




































but thae Tims are the worst.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 17:37:42
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 2 2008, 05:19 PM) [snapback]506465[/snapback]
I can't watch anyone getting a jag from the doc or a nurse. I regularly give blood and have to look away when they stick the needle into me. Don't mind getting the needle put in, it's not sore or anything, just can't watch it. According to the last nurse who did it it is one of the most common fears they come across.

I like spiders and things like that. Don't like slaters though. Oh aye and I can't stand anything flying in front of my face.

I don't think it's unnatural to hate seeing somebody sticking a needle in you!

Having said that I used to take blood from myself when I was running a cholesterol trial at the surgery!
mortonjag 2008-09-02 17:50:32
QUOTE(Tokyoton @ Sep 2 2008, 05:15 PM) [snapback]506460[/snapback]
You`re the most annoying as you ruin almost every single thread on here. As an exile this place is the only really good source of information I have and you really, really have , almost single handedly ruined this board for me.

I assume you're referring to Mortonjag.

He really is one VERY annoying poster. ph34r.gif

Is Mortonjag allowed to get annoyed too?

Mortonjag gets slightly amused by posters who claim that he 'ruins almost every single thread'!

Mortonjag attempts to be pleasant, and happy at all times despite his advancing decrepitude.

Mortonjag starts threads which stimulate interest.

Mortonjag asks probing questions which make him unpopular with folk who have things to hide.

Mortonjag does not attack-he only defends his corner.

Mortonjag cannot unfortunately cater for all tastes.

Please inform Mortonjag of your preferences, and he will attempt to start a thread which will make you cheerful. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-02 17:58:58
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 2 2008, 05:40 PM) [snapback]506484[/snapback]
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Aug 10 2008, 06:51 AM)

The fans are not the main source of income for Morton, the Golden Casket Group is.
Gidday SmithsTON,

What income does the Ton get from Golden Casket apart from the shirt sponsorship and the staff tickets for Golden Casket employees ?

Does Golden Casket do a lot of corporate entertaining in the hospitality at Cappielow ?

I think Anus may be 'Out of the Country' Newt!
mortonjag 2008-09-02 18:04:36
QUOTE(Last Boat Home @ Sep 2 2008, 05:56 PM) [snapback]506500[/snapback]
That was the Mod's opinion in his response to McArthur.

I assume you either missed that or are deliberately condoning behaviour which clearly contravened the forum rules. Either way it seems -shall we say-not very bright!

I can sit quite light to abuse so long as I know the Mods will deal with if if it's taken too far. It's FREQUENTLY been taken too far in the past and I've never complained. Recently there have been deliberate sniping attacks-totally unrelated to the discussion in hand-often using my surname, sometimes attempting to belittle my profession, and on at least three occasions from employees of Greenock Morton, or representatives of GMST.

That sort of abuse will continue to be reported.

I don't know if you realise LBH, but posts like yours only encourage interest in 'the most annoying poster on the board'. If you don't want the Jag mentioned-don't mention him.

Mortonjag is annoying for many reasons, but MOST ANNOYING when he dares to ask uncomfortable questions! smile.gif
And that was my response to Davies’s post not the Mods.

Typically, even in your response to my post you include one of your trademark snide attempts to put down another poster and if I had the time I would drag out some of your insulting and personal comments directed at SpotTon and nach0king to name but two - on the other hand you did call me a babe in one of your previous responses or was it a suckling?

Yet you are above criticism or “abuse” frequently making out that it is the people receiving the abuse from you who have a problem. As for belittling people’s professions surely you are the master at that?

Employees of GMFC and GMST members have had a pop at you on the board – well if they are members of message board and you are continuously digging them up and criticising their work surely they are entitled to respond? You can’t have it all ways - treat people with respect and you will get respect.

I used to think that that you only gave it the intellectually superior being bit when anyone challenged you but it has become something of a fixture particularly when you get involved with younger posters.

Given the persona you have created for yourself on here, is it any wonder someone is taking the rip? If I have missed something and there has been some outrageous, inappropriate comments made then I hope the Mods do take the appropriate action but as far as I can see Ron Number has been at times mildly amusing! His/her childish parody will very quickly become boring but if that was reason enough to ban him/her then you would have gone ages ago for your “sugar Rae” patter.

Where I do agree with you is the encouraging interest in you by responding and I promised myself that I wouldn’t get caught up in your nonsense. Unfortunately, I bit and here I am ph34r.gif

In anticipation of your response and for the record I am not and never have been an employee of the club, nor am I a friend/acquaintance/lover of any of the Rae family, have supported GMFC for 35 years, consider myself to be reasonably well educated (but undoubtedly not to your satisfaction,) not a current member of the Trust, much too old to qualify for the “son” routine and I don’t believe wanking is a sin! rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2008-09-02 18:12:57
QUOTE(Youngsa @ Sep 2 2008, 05:24 PM) [snapback]506472[/snapback]
The one thing that has seemed to follow Cowboy around were the rumours of poor treatment of younger players, not giving them the time of day and bawling them out for no reason in particular other than to push his weight about.

Now given that the Hamilton ethos seems to be about building the club from youth upwards then an attitude like that from anyone wouldn't quite fit in.

I know someone at the club and he never disagreed when I put the above to him in work today about Cowboy being shown the door.

So it might have had something to do with the dressing room after all?
mortonjag 2008-09-02 18:38:28
QUOTE(Tokyoton @ Sep 2 2008, 06:06 PM) [snapback]506507[/snapback]
Try one of those resignation threads!

Seriously though, have you ever tried contacting Morton and tried to get some serious dialogue going? You do appear to be concerned with whats going on so why not try to do something constructive like get an independent supporters group going and demand some answers.

It just seems that you have a lot of serious issues with the board but you seem quite happy to come on here and bump your gums without making any serious attempt to do anything about it.

For what its worth I think you may have a lot of valid points but I feel you`re flogging a dead horse on here and would be better putting to people who matter. I think you`re wasting your time time constantly starting threads for teenagers and drunk folk in Japan.

If you`re as smart as you make out to be do something about it or haud yit feekin wheest!


I have indeed as have several others. The response is invariably 'no reply'.

I wrote to the Club for example about the AD question. No reply. Only when I personally e-mailed Mr Rae's PA at Golden Casket was a response forthcoming-directly from Crawford Rae.

I received an e-mail from the Chief Executive several days later 'hoping that I'd been satisfied with Crawford's response'. I thanked her graciously, commenting that I believed the fans had a genuine interest in Mr Donald's involvement, and that it might be an idea for the Club to give some guidance. I received no reply. That is one of countless examples!

I appreciate that you post infrequently, and don't know how much of the forum you read on a day to day basis. Many posters have complained regularly that they get no response to letters to the Club.

Far from 'flogging a dead horse on here', the dead horse is flogged in attempting to get blood out of the stone that is the Cappielow Mafia.

This little massage board seems the only place where genuine Ton supporters like you and me and many others can exchange views and air frustrations. It is possibly much more effective than you imagine in getting the message over-witness recent personal abuse I've received from employees of GMFC, who IMHO should keep quiet if they don't like constructive criticism of their paymaster.

I've said this before, and for some reason it always irritates those who simply 'don't like' Mortonjag, but I regularly share personal messages with many posters who are like minded.

Many, I should add, who like yourself originally couldn't understand Mortonjag.

Feel free to join MJ's p.m. club.

You may have your eyes opened! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-02 18:40:55
QUOTE(Cawston @ Sep 2 2008, 06:22 PM) [snapback]506513[/snapback]
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[deep breath]

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Let's just say that when the opportunity has presented itself the Jag hasn't exactly covered himself in glory wink.gif

Explanation required here Cawstick. blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-02 18:43:51
QUOTE(Tokyoton @ Sep 2 2008, 06:40 PM) [snapback]506523[/snapback]
No,no,no!
He was away in London that day, if I remember correctly.

That was his his big chance to bring the regime down. Sadly for us he was other wise engaged.

He truly is a joke of a man!

Perhaps you could have waited for my response to your apparently genuine post!

Damned if I do, and damned if I don't- eh? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-02 18:49:32
QUOTE(Tokyoton @ Sep 2 2008, 06:43 PM) [snapback]506528[/snapback]
It really is`not.

You shat your pants when given the chance to give it to the Raes. You`re a fraud and most people here know it.

I responded to your apparently genuine post. I am far from a 'fraud', though I invite you to provide any evidence to the contrary, AND to respond to my post. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-02 19:20:36
QUOTE(Tokyoton @ Sep 2 2008, 07:00 PM) [snapback]506536[/snapback]
If there`s a group of people that agree with Mortonjag, get together and try to force a meeting. Morton aren`t a huge club and I`m sure this would be achievable.

I`m sick and tired of reading what now appears to be Mortonjags personal agenda.

I used to think he was good contributor to this forum. He now seems to have dragged it down to the point where people actively avoid it.

This is a good place to get Morton fans together, no matter where they are in the world, but you're constant sniping is putting people off.

I`m sure you`re a good guy but please try and be more constructive. You`ve a lot t offer. Please try and do something more constructive than snipe on here.

I try to be good. One of my characteristics is that I tend to do things my way. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, and I encourage others to do the same.

QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 2 2008, 07:02 PM) [snapback]506537[/snapback]
Aye now and then...but you have to get through the back and forths between him and Newton to actually find some substance. It is simply not worth it. I'm finding myself more and more just reading the general nonsense and Jesse James areas.

It's horses for courses young man. I think McArthur was maybe a wee bit hard on you, but you really do spend most of your time posting fairly mundane stuff-silly wee pictures etc., and NEVER seem to have a serious opinion on anything.

QUOTE(Tokyoton @ Sep 2 2008, 07:09 PM) [snapback]506542[/snapback]
He`s up there with Newton, Deego manky dug as the dullest posters.

I really wouldn`t worry yourself.

I find Deego very amusing-he is misunderstood.

I find NewTon very interesting-he is misunderstood.

I find the Manky Dug a pain in the arse when he's 'havin' a go' at Mortonjag, but otherwise he's very wise and witty!

I'm pretty happy to live and let live except when attacked! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-02 19:23:27
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 2 2008, 05:48 PM) [snapback]506493[/snapback]
Utter utter farce. If there was any part of the team we couldn't lose anyone from it was the striker position.

We sign a guy from England then after one month and a few games into the season we loan him back to a team in England because we can't guarentee him first team football...bollox ! .

This is quite diabolical with the way this season is going. Irons has not covered himself in glory with this signing debacle. And to be honest, my faith in him is diminishing more and more as each week passes. mad.gif

Couldn't agree more, Spurtle!
mortonjag 2008-09-02 19:27:37
QUOTE(Tokyoton @ Sep 2 2008, 06:14 PM) [snapback]506510[/snapback]
Who is Smithston and how is he an employee given that he lives in New Zealand?

Why ask me?

Does he live in New Zealand? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-02 19:36:50
QUOTE(Tokyoton @ Sep 2 2008, 07:29 PM) [snapback]506557[/snapback]
The Manky one is one o my best mates! He was the joke the rest do annoy me.

You annoy me the most though! You seem to have a dossier on the Raes and their mis-management of the club I love and yet you seem happy to do nothing about it.

If this is the case then you are complicit in the downfall of a football team I love.

That's an interesting proposition.

May I propose that by absenting yourself from Cappielow, the consequent loss of income is far more likely (when compounded) to lead to the downfall of the club, that any ALLEGED 'doing nothing about it' by this poster.

Big B has just given you a concise answer.

I'll be more than happy to listen to any suggestions you care to make to rectify the mismanagement of the Club YOU love. Just remember we ALL love the club, so direct your battle plan to all posters please. Mortonjag has already done FAR more than the majority.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 19:40:13
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 2 2008, 07:38 PM) [snapback]506561[/snapback]
Coming from someone who has posted so little over his time as part of this board I will take this with a large pinch of salt smile.gif
That's because I don't give two-tosses anymore about all these all so important things that get discussed ad nauseam on this forum. Back in the beginning of it all I tried to work up some interest but the continued onslaught and repetition of themes resulted in me just sticking to my fairly mundane stuff, silly wee pictures etc which I am happy to with.

I have no problem with that-live and let live.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 19:46:48
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Sep 2 2008, 07:40 PM) [snapback]506564[/snapback]
According to you the last thing we needed was another striker as we've so many of them already at the club. Are you now saying that is not the case? Surely if there is an abundance of strikers then losing one as poor as Newby is no big deal?

Another striker was NEVER a priority so long as we had Newby. I did not regard him as 'poor'. he and Russell were making a good job of doubling as wingers when Wakey was 'on song' Now we've lost a striker/winger.

In any case, I suspect you deliberately ignored the latter two thirds of Spurtle's post-which was the part with which I was most empathic!
mortonjag 2008-09-02 19:51:36
QUOTE(Tokyoton @ Sep 2 2008, 07:36 PM) [snapback]506559[/snapback]
It seemed like you knew who he was.

Mind you he might be like me and be kidding on to live far away whilst actually spending every waking hour watching you!

The problem is that you're best not just to descend on the forum every now and again when you've had two or three Sakis!

The 'Out of the Country' comment is well understood by regular posters who incidentally also well understand how much effort Jaggy has made to get answers! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-02 19:55:11
QUOTE(Tokyoton @ Sep 2 2008, 07:45 PM) [snapback]506569[/snapback]
No my friend you haven't. I think you`re a very intelligent man who has seen the problems that are deep rooted within Cappielow. I`m stuck here in Japan and there`s very little I can do about it. You on the other hand claim to have a dossier full off mis-management which you choose do nothing with.

Your use of capitals to quote the team I love do you no credit.

So you haven't a clue what should be done or how.

I knew that.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 20:03:35
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 2 2008, 07:57 PM) [snapback]506578[/snapback]
As a supporter I think you have every right to be angry about this MidTon. Basically we have been left in the lurch without any back up striker being brought in.
The timing of it is extraordinary to say the least. The last day of the transfer deadline, fexake !

I understand if the player is homesick. But could he not have stuck it out a few months until Xmas ? We could have made contingency plans for this.
I'm bewildered about why he was signed in the first place now...A few games into the season and we let him go.. blink.gif

Well-accepting he was homesick, and it takes a while to get over that, he WAS made the scapegoat for the Dundee loss and hardly figured thereafter. I believe that was a disgraceful piece of misjudgement, compounded by poor man management.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 20:07:06
QUOTE(Tokyoton @ Sep 2 2008, 08:00 PM) [snapback]506579[/snapback]
The out of country comment? What`s that supposed to mean?

My grandfather supported Morton as does my father. My grandfather is dead and my father has MS. My grandfather doesn`t go because he`s dead and my father because he can`t.

I don`t go because i live 7000 miles away.

I`m sure that renders us much less worthy of an opinion than Mortonjag. This is something I accept.

Well you are the one who's saying that. If that's what you really think, I'll not argue.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 20:09:16
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 2 2008, 08:04 PM) [snapback]506581[/snapback]
I wouldn't be surprised if the club left it this late to let him go so they wouldnt have time to sign anyone else, which is obviously what the fans would be urging them to do.

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mortonjag 2008-09-02 20:14:13
QUOTE(Tokyoton @ Sep 2 2008, 05:44 PM) [snapback]506489[/snapback]
Is any of that meant to be funny?
The use of apostrophes would suggest that it was.
It wasn`t in the slightest.

No-it was a serious comment made in response to Weegie. The solitary apostrophe was used appropriately.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 20:20:40
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 2 2008, 08:06 PM) [snapback]506583[/snapback]
I remember people talking about it when i was young, i can assure you i never attended it. ohmy.gif

It was a busy place near Glasgow Royal-the VD clinic, the Rheumatic Diseases Clinic and round the corner the Royal itself.

Some of the bus conductors used to 'take the piss' if an attractive young woman asked for 'a single to Black St.', simply winking knowingly as they handed over the ticket!
mortonjag 2008-09-02 20:24:51
QUOTE(Tokyoton @ Sep 2 2008, 08:08 PM) [snapback]506586[/snapback]
I`m sure you did.

You claim to know the problems. You hint at knowing the answers.
I put it to you that you get off your arse and do something about it!

i`m in feekin Japan my and dads in a wheelchair. What the f do you want us to do about it!?!?

You`re the one that claims to know what`s wrong. DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

It`s 4 am out hear and I`ve got work today so I expect it to be sorted by the time I get up

Just chucked my day job and now working mostly nights and i find myself drawn towards getting s***faced every night as i dont have to get up in the mornings. Ive the option of studying Japanese, Ikebana, tea ceremony, kendo, caligraphy,paying my Japanese council tax, but no im always getting s***faced.

Im happy but guilty. Is this wrong?


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mortonjag 2008-09-02 20:29:24
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 2 2008, 07:45 PM) [snapback]506570[/snapback]
Last year i put Weatherson in mine after he scored inthe first two games of the season, he was pish after then.

This year i put Mcalister and Partaalu in and Mcalister didn't go over the half way line and Partaalu couldnt pass to his teammates. So im never putting Morton players in my team again.

I replaced Mcalister with Chris Millar and St Johnstone have proceeded to get humped every game since.

Just put Leigh Griffiths up front in place of Mcmennamin so expect him to be rendered pish now.

Excellent choice-I expect him to move to a much bigger club within a season.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 20:42:23 The negativity boys at it again! laugh.gif

Just seven short days ago I reckon most of us thought we'd arrived.

We're all on a downer-understandably.

Funny old game-we'll probably cuff Queens on Sunday and everything will be fixed!


C'MON YE TON


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mortonjag 2008-09-02 20:51:02
QUOTE(big B @ Sep 2 2008, 08:41 PM) [snapback]506605[/snapback]
At the moment things don't seem to be too good down Cappielow way the Hibs game apart, I just can't see Dougie going into the lions den to get mauled at by a room full of Morton fans.

A lot has changed since the old days in the third division. Most of all the fans perception of Mr Rae has altered quite significantly, especially in the last year.

He's not daft-as you said he'll only 'answer questions' now, when he knows he's running the show.


I can't believe the naivety of posters who say-DO SOMETHING-especially when they don't have a clue themselves what to do or how to do it.

Mr Rae still reigns supreme at Cappielow, even if he's rapidly running out of loyal subjects.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 21:04:41
QUOTE(SramTon @ Sep 2 2008, 08:50 PM) [snapback]506610[/snapback]
Generally speaking (except for Bupa etc) there is no contract between the doctor and patient and therefore most medical negligence cases are based on a Donaghue v Stevenson liability.

If, during a consultation, a doctor misadvises a patient then there is potential for a claim in negligence. I can't see why the same principle would not apply to a retired doctor informally providing advice over the internet. However, there are issues of reasonableness to consider and the standard of care required would have to be less.

I think it's unlikely you would have any problems, but I suspect there is at least a theoretical risk. I very much doubt there has yet been a case involving this type of advice over the internet (hence no link).

Anyway, I'm adding my usual disclaimer to the above. wink.gif

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There is probably 'a potential for a claim' attaching to every human interaction with another!

As you suggest 'reasonableness' or as I prefer, 'common sense' would clearly determine the outcome of any litigation.

Anyhow, I've still not heard from the MDDUS---


or the SFA, or Gillian Donaldson.

Does Gillian Donaldson have a duty of care to her paying customers BTW? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-02 21:43:19
QUOTE(Cawston @ Sep 2 2008, 09:31 PM) [snapback]506629[/snapback]
For a man on a hattrick you're being uncharacteristically modest wink.gif
Doesn't suit you tongue.gif
I concur.

When I think of the sacrifices you've made for this club I could weep. I mean come on, 23000 posts of sheer painstaking monotony was a huge undertaking, only you could have made it look so easy biggrin.gif
I assure you brother, we all felt the pain of every single, solitary post.

And all for the love of Mortonjag

I salute you sir.

If 23000 posts have taught us anything it must be that only the naive buy shares, attend forums or try to engage in dialogue with "the Raegime".

Real change can only come from having a right good hissy fit on the internet, Mortonjag has shown the way.

Good call Jaggie, you can count me in.

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The Monkey loves the JAG bit.

Nothing 'two beetah gude benanoe' he sez.
mortonjag 2008-09-02 21:52:31
QUOTE(SramTon @ Sep 2 2008, 09:24 PM) [snapback]506628[/snapback]
I've now added the word "successful" to my last post.

I think common-sense his its place when you are deciding what advice to give and how far to go. There's advice and then there's advice. There are lines to be crossed that no sensible professional would go beyond when giving "informal advice" over the internet. If someone was to start crossing those lines then they are asking for trouble.

Believe it or not, all of that had occurred to me before I ever gave any advice, and believe it or not I've never had a complaint lodged against me in my whole career.

I'm still curious to hear what the MDDUS think, but meantime if you have an ingrowing toenail, a boil on your backside, or just want an opinion on the correct way to slip on a condom, feel free to p.m.! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-02 21:54:51
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 2 2008, 08:23 PM) [snapback]506594[/snapback]
Out of interest. Read in the paper a guy is getting putting on the sex offenders register and fined about £600 for sexually indecent texts he sent to a 14 year old girl.

What are peoples take on this punishment?

String him up!
mortonjag 2008-09-03 06:37:17
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 2 2008, 11:16 PM) [snapback]506660[/snapback]
I think many feel and share your pain.

I'm sure others do suffer when folk go overboard on their betes noires. Puggs may concur.
mortonjag 2008-09-03 07:26:21
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Sep 2 2008, 09:53 PM) [snapback]506636[/snapback]
I must admit as far as I understood right from the start, Alistair Donald was only involved on the basis of his business knowledge, rather than as an investor or buyer of the club.


And as far as I understand he wants control of the club.
QUOTE(Trust Member @ Sep 2 2008, 10:18 PM) [snapback]506640[/snapback]
I dont want to nitpick about this but I dont think devalued is the right word.

I think devalued was exactly the right word in the context of the Trust having a say in GMFC-WHAT IT'S THERE FOR!

QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Sep 2 2008, 10:31 PM) [snapback]506642[/snapback]
Surely The Trust are tying to gain as large a percentage possible , so adding value to shares that will not be sold holds no useful purpose to the Trust .
Infact what useful purpose does this share issue have unless there is another major investor willing to come in ?

Which of course begs the question-when's AD going to get involved?

QUOTE(JonaTon @ Sep 2 2008, 10:33 PM) [snapback]506643[/snapback]
The reason I ask is that as far as I'm aware there has never been any public announcement that Alistair Donald would be purchasing shares in Morton or was even interested in getting financially involved with Morton.

I'd be intrigued to read something to the contrary.

You posted the Tilly report JonaTon. Why is his comment that 'he won't be getting involved financially AT THIS STAGE, totally ignored by those who prefer to spin the 'only in an advisory capacity'?

QUOTE(TaunTon @ Sep 2 2008, 10:59 PM) [snapback]506654[/snapback]
.

For the life of me I cannot understand what the MJ/Newton crew are trying to achieve with their slightly obsessional postings on AD. Do they want him to buy out Golden Casket or do they see him as some sort of evil waiting in the wings? If they want him to invest do they think they are likely to encourage him with their campaign or do they consider him as being dangerous to the club.

I fail to see any logic behind this and I'd be grateful if someone would explain.

You plainly misunderstand much if you believe in a 'MJ/Newton crew'. For such a fertile imagination to 'rubbish' genuine individual interest in our club's future is somewhat incongruous!

QUOTE(TaunTon @ Sep 3 2008, 12:25 AM) [snapback]506698[/snapback]
No Newton not OK. Are you trying to tell me that you and MJ have spent hours raising the issue of AD, his status as a director, companies house etc etc etc in post after post on the basis of an 'unsubstantiated' post on this board that nobody can find?

I can't speak for NewTon. When I started the original AD thread, I did so because I believed genuine Morton fans would be genuinely interested in the function of a mega wealthy man at Cappielow.

Nothing which supervened has done anything to suggest that I was incorrect. Interest has been enormous. AD 'arrived' with a 'Tilly' splash, then just seemed to disappear. After almost six months and only a rare sighting (during which time Crawford Rae INSISTED he was a director), he chose to become a director in July.

Anyone who believes he's only here in an advisory capacity has probably already hung up this year's stocking!

Firstly and foremost-Rae takes advice from neither man nor beast. I DEFY any poster to provide evidence to the contrary!

Secondly, Donald's career has been hallmarked by rarely paralleled success at the cutting edge of a cut throat business market.

Anyone who thinks that the ongoing shambles that is GMFC is in any small measure down to taking advice from AD, is plainly deluded.

The only advice I reckon he's given is to his buddy Crawford, and to the effect that they might as well get a share issue going and upgrade the stadium until Fr Rae stops asking 'funny money'!

I imagine AD's quite happy to see the asking price drop as the daft old fud digs himself deeper with every passing month.

One thing's dead certain. Mr Donald WANTS to be a director, yet he's rarely seen around those days. Whatever his financial interest in our club is-HE DEFINITELY HAS ONE.

To the MJ bashers, the doubters, and the genuinely unable to see things staring them in the face, I remind you of Hugh's Cot!

We must always be vigilant.
mortonjag 2008-09-03 07:44:58
QUOTE(dav @ Sep 3 2008, 01:20 AM) [snapback]506711[/snapback]
He was a scapegoat after the defeat at Dundee. Didnt really get a chance to shine in my book - another victim of Irons panic approach to management , did well in the first couple of games against Clyde and St Johnstone and the lower division cup games and then dropped after one performance against Livingston where we were light years behind as a team and he was the only fall guy, that would have frustrated me and you if it had happened to us. Came on at Hibs and did a job (and we got the 2 goals after his arrival on the pitch, looked to enjoy that win as much as anyone else, so to say he wasnt interested is a tad harsh....Given the reaction to Weatherson showing a little 'passion' on Saturday i'd say you can't win with our support however you react at times!!!

After the shocking performance at Airdrie we will probably take to the field with about 2 players if the same logic towards scapegoats applies at QoS on Saturday...Not long for Irons now you'd have thought if there are another couple of Airdrie performances around the corner..

Not sure how you can make any comment on a lad's circumstances without knowing any facts, its all conjecture. Don't remember seeing him make any complaint about his time here, saw him working out in the gym a couple of times and he seemed pleasant enough and always seemed to acknowledge the support (which is far more than some). I guess sometimes things just don't work out, ....Who knows he may be back, as at the moment i don't know where the goals (Russell aside possibly will come from). We create so little though , Pele would struggle up front for us at times.

Easy to surmise what has happened but as always with the Ton i expect there is far more to things than meet the eye, some of the comments coming out of the club at times are bizarre to say the least.

Keep this up Dav, and I'll be able to retire! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-03 07:58:37
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 2 2008, 11:03 PM) [snapback]506657[/snapback]
They may have turned out that way but they certainly were not as you describe at the start of the season!

Our players are not as bad as Saturday suggests and, until Saturday when we have lost it has only been narrowly. As David Irons points out, they are also the same players who scored 4 away to Hibs.

Its a question of which team turns up on a regular basis. If its last Saturday's team we might as well all go home now. In reality we will generally play better - I'm just worried that the level of average performance to stay in this league might be better than our average performance.

I believe that Saturday's performance had a lot to do with an underrated Airdrie side.

What is worrying is evidence of possible unhappiness in the dressing room- with Newby off, and rumours flying about yesterday that others ain't too chuffed right now.

It looks to me as though Rae is being as impatient with Irons as he was inexplicably patient with his puppet, and the pressure's simply going right down the line.

Davie Irons is a bright lad. Hopefully he'll get it sorted.
mortonjag 2008-09-03 08:03:56
QUOTE(Gordon Ottershaw @ Sep 3 2008, 07:56 AM) [snapback]506726[/snapback]
I believe most supporters fall into the category of what Nixon called the "silent majority" who do not have extreme opinions on 90+% of issues regarding the club. This maybe because most people are modest enough to acknowledge they are not experts on everything gmfc and to pretend otherwise is arrogant or downright sh*t stirring.

The comments posted on the board are not a 100% reflection of the suport as a whole rather those who could be bothered to reply to what has become an increasingly negative website where extreme and -ve opinions will always be the most prevalent topics because this is our nature as supporters.

....indeed, and the massive increase in gates at Cappielow proves that the majority of fans are thinking positively for which I wholly commend them, as I do you for such an incisive analysis of our massage board. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-03 08:40:38
QUOTE(dazed @ Sep 3 2008, 08:01 AM) [snapback]506729[/snapback]
No you wont, we need a dog to kick on this forum wink.gif biggrin.gif

I had noticed that the kicking becomes more violent when the Ton have done badly. Do you think that is a coincidence!

QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 3 2008, 08:05 AM) [snapback]506735[/snapback]
blink.gif blink.gif

I thought Spotty is a dog ?

Who eats raw meat.

If you see him at Cappielow, perhaps you could buy him a pie - he may discover it tastes better than raw meat.

laugh.gif

Give me a blue fillet steak to a Cappielow pie any day!
mortonjag 2008-09-03 08:45:07
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 3 2008, 08:38 AM) [snapback]506744[/snapback]
I once read a Martin Amis article about the Iraq war and was left thinking so succinct, such beautiful prose, so completely unsure if he is for or against the war.
MJ’s exactly the same. His criticism of Rae is so vague and veiled that there is no other conclusion to come to other than Mortonjag is Douglas Rae.

I conclude that that is your opinion Mr McArthur-indeed, I don't conclude that at all. I conclude that occasionally your wit is lost on yourself! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-03 08:59:00
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 3 2008, 08:32 AM) [snapback]506741[/snapback]
I have absolutely nothing against Puggs having never met him. He and Willowman and one other I can't remember were posting really offensive material and I reported it. No problem. It's called self-policing and if/when I post something as offensive I hope someone reports me.


It is most certainly NOT called self policing.

The most effective method of self policing is persuading somebody who has offended you to retract what's been said. Alternatively you may ridicule what is said and make him look silly. Occasionally an intelligent two way argument may develop and 'common ground' may be reached.

On a pubic massage board 'self policing' normally finds many posters doing exactly those things simultaneously, where something is offensive to the majority. It's sensible and effective, and doesn't rely on a judgement from a harassed Mod who may simply bend to pressure from an irate poster.

What you actually did was to get on your hobby horse and clype to the Mods, Davie, and if I may say so, you came over as pretty self satisfied and 'holier than thou'. Leave that stuff to Mortonjag, and Professor Piehole. It doesn't become a man of your stature.

The fact that I agreed in the main with your 'take' is neither here nor there.

mortonjag 2008-09-03 09:23:34
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 3 2008, 09:07 AM) [snapback]506759[/snapback]
Not at all. A bunch of folk thought it was "funny" to make jokes about kids being sexually assaulted and tortured and I thought a line had to be drawn. There is absolutely no point in engaging in conversation or banter with someone who thinks Paul Gadd is some kind of pantomime villian and sometimes being collared is the only langauge people understand. In fact Willowman or Puggs didn't even understand they were being 'told off'.
I made myself a wee rule when I started posting on here and that was to post under my own name and never say anything that I wouldn't say to someone straight in the face. So if anyone ever has a problem with what I post they can talk to me personally about it. Some others might want to take that on board. I am not ashamed I used the clype button and if a similar thread was started would do so again.

I fully understand what you did and why you did it. I haven't said you were wrong.

I was merely surprised that you felt unable to deal with it by yourself.

Maybe I should clype more. It would certainly save me a helluvalotta grief! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-03 09:36:15 3 members are celebrating their birthday today
lazy_ar*e_student(26), Honor Todd(69), Tooth & Nail(27)

Is there any other kind of student?

I love the thought of ladies and 69

Hope T & N's cake is filling!

Enjoy!
mortonjag 2008-09-03 09:43:34
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Sep 3 2008, 08:54 AM) [snapback]506753[/snapback]
One shocking defeat and some poor results 5 games into the season and it's Davie Irons' fault. How many more managers are going to foot the blame for what seems to be wrong at Cappielow. I don't believe that Cowboy was that bad a manager nor McInally nor Irons. Yes they have all made mistakes in some individual games along the line but haven't all managers?

I can't put my finger on it as I'm not party to what goes on in the boardroom at Cappielow but it seems that there is something wrong to the extent that I would call it institutional failing. Managers and players have come and gone however the only common denominator is our esteemed Chairman and the same problems exist - no direction on the park, a perceived lack of effort and a distance between the club and the fans. Perhaps I'm overly cynical and hold our managers past and current in too high a regard and it's simply a case of Rae picks bad managers to run the team? Either way the club needs to find direction and a degree of ambition otherwise we will soon find ourselves back in the second.

Well I could say 'I've been telling everybody this for the last three years and they wouldn't listen'-gosh I just have.

Oh dear ratarse-prepare to meet thy doom! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Mind you JM was a Muppet!
mortonjag 2008-09-03 10:11:45
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Sep 3 2008, 09:40 AM) [snapback]506768[/snapback]
is that what he told you?
i can't speak for others, but i took the comment at face value, and thus far, there is indeed no evidence to the contrary. mind you, that was some months ago biggrin.gif

depends what you mean by 'become': AD signed a form 288a on 2 July 08, but presumably decided to 'become' a director rather earlier.
smile.gif
huh.gif

When are you taking over Alistair?
mortonjag 2008-09-03 10:14:50
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Sep 3 2008, 10:11 AM) [snapback]506780[/snapback]
Maybe there's the distinct possibilty that you made it up blink.gif

Undoubtedly there's the definite probability that he didn't. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-03 11:06:16
QUOTE(Trust Member @ Sep 3 2008, 10:19 AM) [snapback]506784[/snapback]
You seem to know the man quite well MJ. Can you give us a synopsis of his CV please.
It's just that I heard it expressed somewhat differently recently.





No, and since I've answered your question, WHAT did your hear and from whom?

I think he is a director because he meets one of the 3 criteria for a Morton Director.
1. Member of Rae family
2. Long term family friend or associate of DDFR.
3. Trust Rep




What a ridiculous statement!
Absolutely correct. Never again must we be caught unready.
Wonder if that's why the Trust wanted so much to get a rep on the board?? smile.gif

What a pity it chose a 'wise monkey' instead.
mortonjag 2008-09-03 11:28:53
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 3 2008, 09:04 AM) [snapback]506758[/snapback]
Gidday Davie,

blink.gif blink.gif

Not great for a lad your age.

I thought you only turned 40 a few months ago.

MJ could give you some advice on longevity.



although my breasts are bigger than most ladies I know




With breasts larger than women he's a goner from obesity before we're relegated!

Especially if they are really big women!

Let's see- the average female weight at 40 is 66Kg so each of McArthur's massive tits weighs over five stones. I reckon that puts him in the 75 stones category.

Sorry stuff indeed.

mortonjag 2008-09-03 11:42:12
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 3 2008, 11:31 AM) [snapback]506804[/snapback]
The Huntsman is my favourite spider.

Their look is far worse than their bite.

These large spiders move very quickly.

They often shock people who are not from Australia, as Australia has a reputation for dangerous creatures. Due to their size and speed, they do manage to intimidate a lot of people.

I once heard an Australian comedian mention his fear of spiders, he mentioned that he knows the Huntsman spiders are not dangerous, but how could we not be scared of them when they have been given the name Hunts... Man....!.

However, these spiders are pretty harmless.

The spiders can measure up to 15 cms wide from leg to leg. They have a flat body, which is useful for them to crawl underneath bark and other such hiding places.

They can bite you, and if they do, it will be painful and swelling may occur.

A cold pack may relieve the symptoms, but if pain persists please see Mortonjag.

biggrin.gif biggrin.gif


Who frequently has to deal with creeps and crawlers!
mortonjag 2008-09-03 11:51:23
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Sep 3 2008, 10:43 AM) [snapback]506791[/snapback]
No comment form MJ I see. I guess he's waiting until Murray gets beat in the quarters or semis so he can come on and call it another underachievement.

Is that brat playing again? I can't be arsed with tennis or brats.
mortonjag 2008-09-03 11:55:35
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 3 2008, 11:36 AM) [snapback]506807[/snapback]
Bloody hell, MJ.

I posted that you could give Davie some advice on longevity.

Not that he would kick the bucket this season.

Please be your usual constructive self.

DDFR needs Davie alive, so that he can bring a wee pal.

smile.gif

He has pals?
mortonjag 2008-09-03 11:58:46
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Sep 3 2008, 10:28 AM) [snapback]506788[/snapback]
Now that is sick. Those spaghetti hoops gie me the heeby-jeebies!

Not as much as the blue and white ones this weather.
mortonjag 2008-09-03 12:06:09
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Sep 3 2008, 10:11 AM) [snapback]506778[/snapback]
To the MJ bashers, the doubters, and the genuinely unable to see things staring them in the face, I remind you of Hugh's Cot!

I believe some head case poster may have brought something up about this 3 month 6 days and 14 minutes ago, if I remember clearly it was a FACT Huge Scott has had re-constructive facial surgery and changed his name to you guessed it A.D. As you say it was staring them in the face the whole time.
Forever vigilant.....the truth is out there
disclaimer- A.D does not stand for Alister Donald it may be Anne Diamond, Angie Dickenson or Angus Dayton it is not known that the surgery is indeed fact but I'm sure most would agree that it would have been a wise move.


Anno Domini would be the commonest usage I'd guess, though I believe she's not had re-constructive surgery, remembers the post about AD punting in 40% and awaits urgent tonsillectomy.
mortonjag 2008-09-03 12:09:39
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Sep 3 2008, 11:59 AM) [snapback]506824[/snapback]
Might be an idea not to start threads on them then

Lots of posters start threads about things they don't like.

Shall I start one about you? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-03 12:17:47
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 3 2008, 12:08 PM) [snapback]506827[/snapback]

He chose a real bummer for one of those rare visits-well seen the OF game was on Sunday! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-03 12:26:52
QUOTE(cmonaton @ Sep 3 2008, 12:10 PM) [snapback]506829[/snapback]
and the 2 that are there now will soon be casgated as such if we don't start to climb this league soon.

I agree. Derek Collins has been around the Rae presence for many years. I don't think he and DI went into it like lambs to the slaughter, but they weren't getting paid and the p45's were looming.

The story (rarely contradicted) is that they were given full control of 'a budget'. Whether part of that went to increased wages and longer contracts for existing players is unclear, but DI said from the off he'd put together a small squad of quality players.

If indeed Mr Rae has kept his nose out for the first time since he became Manager Chairman, the buck must stop at David Irons.

I believe he is entirely worthy of castigation for Saturday's debacle, just as he was praised abundantly for the victory over Hibs.

I'm still hopeful he's going to pull a rabbit out of the hat! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-03 12:40:57
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 3 2008, 12:29 PM) [snapback]506836[/snapback]
wot could have been.

sad.gif sad.gif

http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/displa...2438474.0.0.php
IAN McCALL today revealed Partick Thistle are set to land a £100,000-plus windfall after the BBC decided to televise Jags' Co-operative Cup third-round clash with Rangers.

Firhill is sure to be a sell-out on Wednesday, September 24 as Gers visit for the second season on the bounce after last term's Scottish Cup quarter-final replay.

And McCall admitted that the extra finance he hopes to be handed from the TV showdown could make all the difference to Jags' promotion bid.

We just HAVE to beat Caley. We've had zilch from cup runs-surely the tide has turned!
mortonjag 2008-09-03 13:19:59
QUOTE(cmonaton @ Sep 3 2008, 12:51 PM) [snapback]506850[/snapback]
aye it will have to be some size of hat.it's glaringly obvious that we don't have any real quality in the team [been this way for a long time] and that we aren't about to get any either.the so called quality was supposed to come from ex greetna s***e.that hasn't happened either,they have been s***e since the day the joined us,my beleif is that it will stay that way until they go.people on here seem to think that we will start to pick up soon.there is not a shred of evidence of that happening.ok we beat the hibees.on the sat we should have just as motivated as Airdrie were.instead we went ten steps backwards.the defence is awful just as is the rest of the team.to be honest the panic button should be pushed right now,because i really don't see us getting out of this mess.never mind the bloody cups,lets get it together and try and sort out the league form.rant over.

Trouble is we seem lumbered with what we've got plus any loan signings.
mortonjag 2008-09-03 13:39:24
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Sep 3 2008, 12:53 PM) [snapback]506853[/snapback]
I'm quite content to let others make their minds up about the 2 of you and your symbiotic relationship on this issue.

As for rubbishing genuine interest you couldn't be further from the truth. My problem is the way that you chose to dress up your genuine speculation as actual fact.



[quote name='Barbarossa' date='Sep 3 2008, 12:50 PM' post='506849']
For what it is worth MJ's version of events is very close to information I recieved regarding the ongoing AD situation and the questions he has posed are entirely relevant in the current climate.


I don't know why you have any problem with my stimulating interest TaunTon. I categorically NEVER indulge in idle speculation, and have repeatedly stated that I have several reliable contacts.

Furthermore, I categorically NEVER PRESENT speculation as fact.

It's nice to occasionally hear somebody like Barbarossa giving me some credit.

Just bear in mind I predicted what would happen with Mileson, McInally, AND RAE, ages before the majority, and took reams of sometimes OTT abuse for daring to rock the boat on all three counts.

It's obvious to anybody with a couple of neurones to rub together that AD has designs on Greenock Morton.

I've just presented THAT as a fact.

Maybe it's time for some fools to stop pursuing their viperous anti-jag agendas and concentrate on what's really happening.
mortonjag 2008-09-03 13:52:33
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Sep 3 2008, 01:27 PM) [snapback]506868[/snapback]
I posted Russell Steele's report in which there was no mention of Alistair Donald taking up shares.

My point is only that there has never been any report announcing that Alistair Donald would be taking up shares or intended to take up shares.

That is not to say he doesn't intend to or hasn't said to others privately that he would like to.

I was referring to the original Tilly report by Chris Fitzgerald, which unusually, appears to be missing from your ever excellent blog.

I don't contend what you say above.

I just happened to clue into his original comment about not getting involved financially 'AT THIS STAGE'.
mortonjag 2008-09-03 13:57:37
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Sep 3 2008, 01:36 PM) [snapback]506872[/snapback]
As more managers come in I am coming to the conclusion that the part of your post highlighted is correct.

The only reason Douglas Rae gets to choose the manager is because he has enough money to own the club it's not down to his football knowledge.

I crucified Toby for suggesting it at the time but I now think he was right - one of the main reasons Davie Irons got the job ahead of Jim Duffy is because Rae knew Duffy wouldn't have put up with any of his nonsense.

That suggests that you believe he's been meddling again.

QUOTE(Ghost @ Sep 3 2008, 01:50 PM) [snapback]506875[/snapback]
or Mr AD ph34r.gif

That would indeed be a big hat-Ghostie! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-03 14:08:59
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Sep 3 2008, 12:30 PM) [snapback]506837[/snapback]
Newton, what is it that mortonjag has done constructively for the club ? compared to his personal attacks on dougie rae. Having the most posts on a forum hasn't really changed anything has it now. So now we all know that the stuff about allister donald and his form filling problems, but what has changed ? nothing.

I am a retired GP-not a bloody magician.

I sense that you object to my criticism of the chairman, though I can assure you I've never attacked him personally.

Are you acquainted with the term 'catalyst'?
mortonjag 2008-09-03 14:15:44
QUOTE(piehutt @ Sep 3 2008, 12:56 PM) [snapback]506855[/snapback]
Seeing mortonjag as the most recent poster in the top 5 threads.

You must be exceedingly timid, Piehole, if you haven't yet adjusted!

QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 3 2008, 01:06 PM) [snapback]506862[/snapback]
Did you find the cholesterol guilty or not guilty ?

Yes.
mortonjag 2008-09-03 14:21:16
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 3 2008, 02:09 PM) [snapback]506887[/snapback]
I'm with you there, I don't think I could stomach the thought of Duffy at Cappielow.

Is that because you think he'd be a failure as a manager?
mortonjag 2008-09-03 14:27:28 Livingston rejected transfer deadline day offers for Murray Davidson, Leigh Griffiths and captain James McPake.
mortonjag 2008-09-03 14:33:20
QUOTE(dazed @ Sep 3 2008, 02:27 PM) [snapback]506892[/snapback]
I hate rats, snakes and chalk squeeking on a blackboard.

I thought snakes hissed!
mortonjag 2008-09-03 14:49:50
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 3 2008, 02:29 PM) [snapback]506893[/snapback]
Oh come on. That's taking self-obsession to a whole new level. I don't have an anti-Jag agenda and I'm sure 99.99999% of the poster on here don't, sometimes I agree with you and sometimes I disagree with you, it's called being a grown up.

With regards to Mileson, a kid doing 'o' level business studies could have told you that wouldn't work long term. It's all about the balance sheet at the end of the day. I deal with businesses from small to multi-million turnover everyday of my life and I knew when Gr£tna came into the league that it was only a matter of when they would go under no matter what league or cup or European success they had

I don't know/care about the 'insider' info you may/may not have but the conceipt on here, not just from yourself, is sometimes staggering, 'I ken something youse dinnae'. It's really boring. Time for all of you in that camp to either put up or shut up.

Did you intend the highlighted text to be so ironic following your shameless self promotion in bold type.

McArthur-not for the first time you are talking absolute mince, if you're suggesting that more that two or three posters predicted the Gretna outcome from day one. I was repeatedly accused of jealousy, personal vendettas, and ignorance-more often than once (for example) by Alibi.

I was treated in exactly the same way in the early days of calling JM in question-folk don't like shaken out of complacency.

As to our good Chairman, the torrent of personal abuse was relentless every time I mentioned his name a year or so back. One of the funniest recurring accusations was of 'disrespect'. How can I respect somebody whose ego is ruining our club.

Anyway-I'll just put your post down to another example of jag bashing/ego polishing. smile.gif

Oh-and one final point-unlike you McArthur, Mortonjag is FAR from conceited. Mortonjag is the epitome of humility.
mortonjag 2008-09-03 15:36:15
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 3 2008, 02:54 PM) [snapback]506908[/snapback]
Maybe the guys I go to the games with are of an equal intellect to you then because, to a man, we all predicted the Gr£tna outcome AND none of us thought McInally was a good appointment AND none of us particularly care for yourself Douglas. Jesus, I'm so much cleverer than I thought.

And you all kept it to your clever little selves, presumably because you didn't think it mattered! laugh.gif

QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 3 2008, 03:13 PM) [snapback]506913[/snapback]
Chris Fitzgerald is missing ohmy.gif
Why Davie because you said so.
public board, entirely up to the individual what and how much they may want to divulge. I have been busy and I have now had 3 seperate people today confirming the same story by phone to me and none of them are connected with one another. Their oonly connection is with their love of Morton and wanting that future to be assured.

I'm sure you will know soon enough.
FAO MJ, You asked pertinent questions and even if you get under many peoples skin the questions still need answered, not brushed under the carpet. Your best attribute is that no matter the abuse (and some of it is brought upon yourself) you continue to probe for answers. I have and will never have a problem with anyone who wants answers to what should be very simple questions.

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mortonjag 2008-09-03 16:27:19
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Sep 3 2008, 03:54 PM) [snapback]506931[/snapback]
100% agree. It's all a little bit boring and attention seeking in my mind from the guys who have insider knowledge but can never reveal!

To whom in particular do you refer?

QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 3 2008, 04:03 PM) [snapback]506932[/snapback]
For a start none of the guys I attend games with post on here and secondly as you can see from my post count I don't feel the need to put my every single waking thought on here.

As far as it mattering, couldn't give a f*** if Gretna go out of business or not. Like I said, I deal with business and some do well and some go bust. It's no different because the business involves 22 grown men chasing a ball around a park.

OK-to take your last point firstly, may I humbly suggest that since you couldn't give a f*ck about Morton, you would do well to stop criticising those who do.

NOW-that bit about your posts.

I notice that the ratio of unashamed promotions of a little known cannibal rodent band to posts of any general interest or substance is rather high.

Could that be taking self obsession to a whole new level? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-03 16:39:06 There is only one post so far which makes any sense whatsoever.

Sturgeon hasn't a bloody clue, and this is further vote catching nonsense.

It's NOT about improving patient care-just about saving face and a few bob for selfish b*stards who will still squeal like stuck pigs when they don't get what they want off Sugar Daddy NHS-PRONTO.

I'd slam any government for such short sighted waste of potential income for a cash strapped public service.

When the Government Minister in question is a daft wee lassie who has already ignored learned advice on more than one occasion it's ten times worse.


AND she still needs a bloody shave. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-03 16:49:55
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 3 2008, 04:33 PM) [snapback]506944[/snapback]
Maybe but I prefer to call it promotion and we are most definitely not a one-man-band. rolleyes.gif

For the record, I would also like to see change at Cappielow. All I am saying is that I simply don't believe you or the other guy know anything of any substance. If you did you wouldn't be hiding behind an alias or are you scared of the Raes?

Now you are being a complete arse McArthur. I AM Douglas Rae-remember, and the other guy is my son Jaycee.

Call it promotion if you will- it was boringly repetitive advertising to the point of beggary-indeed I became so sorry for you that I gave you the benefit of one of my excellent posts on the day of your last gig.

All I got in return was ongoing abuse. Sometimes I could weep.
mortonjag 2008-09-03 16:56:55
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Sep 3 2008, 04:51 PM) [snapback]506961[/snapback]
SPOONSY WAS, IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE A STRIKER

you meant:


SPOONSY WAS, IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE A STRIKER
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mortonjag 2008-09-03 17:00:59
QUOTE(Mr Toon @ Sep 3 2008, 04:18 PM) [snapback]506937[/snapback]
........and there probably isn't. These are the kind of discussions that take place when a contract is being discussed and in spite of all that has been said and written about Douglas Rae (or maybe because of much of the truth said and written) , if he'd wanted Duffy he'd have pulled out all the stops to get him! Nothing coming out of Cappielow suggested it ever got near to contractual discussions; indeed I seem to remember that with the understandable haste even the contract details of Davie Irons and Derek Collins weren't sorted out until some time after.

Remember when JM said he wanted Paul McGowan but that he wouldn't pay more than £50K and then Mr Rae who also obviously wanted him put in a bid of £100K.

After the managerial saga was over Mr Rae said that he had got who he wanted. In that I believe him.

He also claimed they would be 'with us for a long time to come'!
mortonjag 2008-09-03 17:03:39
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Sep 3 2008, 04:58 PM) [snapback]506969[/snapback]
ph34r.gif

copyright Monkey Inc. 2005
mortonjag 2008-09-03 17:06:03
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 3 2008, 04:42 PM) [snapback]506949[/snapback]
Ha you lie. Elsewhere Boozie has correctly stated that I have a fine head of hair.

But I'll cop a plea on old an Tory.

My granny had a head of fine hair too Mr Bam.
mortonjag 2008-09-03 18:14:12
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 3 2008, 03:13 PM) [snapback]506913[/snapback]
Chris Fitzgerald is missing ohmy.gif
Why Davie because you said so.
public board, entirely up to the individual what and how much they may want to divulge. I have been busy and I have now had 3 seperate people today confirming the same story by phone to me and none of them are connected with one another. Their oonly connection is with their love of Morton and wanting that future to be assured.

I'm sure you will know soon enough.
FAO MJ, You asked pertinent questions and even if you get under many peoples skin the questions still need answered, not brushed under the carpet. Your best attribute is that no matter the abuse (and some of it is brought upon yourself) you continue to probe for answers. I have and will never have a problem with anyone who wants answers to what should be very simple questions.

TY, and pertinent questions are best not ignored-at least I've always found that if they're addressed they don't come back to haunt you!
mortonjag 2008-09-03 18:23:28
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Sep 3 2008, 05:33 PM) [snapback]506992[/snapback]
Well said those men.

I have given up posting on this site, despite being a morton fan all my life , season ticket holder, away game attendee etc etc. because of the negativity, venomous bile and pretentious drivel posted by the incessant jabbering few.

Somebody posting for you?
mortonjag 2008-09-03 18:27:46
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 3 2008, 05:32 PM) [snapback]506991[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Another day, another attack......etc rolleyes.gif

God bless Alex and Nicola for standing up for Scotland

How can Bawheid bless himself-oh wait-is that what that mad goalie does?

QUOTE(Ghost @ Sep 3 2008, 06:05 PM) [snapback]507011[/snapback]
Not when it comes to this s***e local income tax Salmond wants to bring in dry.gif

Business is up in arms about it-Soapy will be none too pleased I'd guess.
mortonjag 2008-09-03 18:32:23
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Sep 3 2008, 06:13 PM) [snapback]507015[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif

I was there and it definitely wasn't James Grady . New source required

It was Chrissiboi-our forum unknown quantity!
mortonjag 2008-09-03 19:00:44
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Sep 3 2008, 06:50 PM) [snapback]507040[/snapback]
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i admit i had to look it up rolleyes.gif

ok, so what constructive actions has mortonjag catalysed (for the club)?

and why is this thread in general nonsense, rather than being pinned on the front page? mad.gif

Because my darling--- NewTon posted it on the front page and somebody thought-wrong forum.

Remember that happened to a question I asked of the Trust of your goodself Alistair!!!


Oh and your catalyst question-why in particular did you ask that?
mortonjag 2008-09-03 19:03:45
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Sep 3 2008, 06:59 PM) [snapback]507055[/snapback]
there is a company in Unit 2, Lynedoch Industrial Estate, Inverclyde Tool Hire, but im sure they do servicing and repairs as well, no harm giving them a ring 784455

That may be where Mr Rae got some of his staff.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 08:03:22
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Sep 3 2008, 09:23 PM) [snapback]507136[/snapback]
I can just see the meeting between little Kev and the Toon board.

"F''k this, I'm off to Morton". huh.gif



BTW I would not have him at Scapa.

Why not?
mortonjag 2008-09-04 08:05:40
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 3 2008, 10:13 PM) [snapback]507160[/snapback]
Anyone who enjoys black pudding too much, and only comes out at night, don't take Buffy up on her offer. Especially as there is a full moon on the 27th September.

Too much at stake I reckon.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 08:09:19
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Sep 3 2008, 09:13 PM) [snapback]507127[/snapback]
Cowboy woulds not allow the players to go out once in a while - apparently there was a "no drinking" policy. This was wrong - players need to unwind every so often.
At the same time as we were leaking goals and struggling to score the Airdire players were out on midweek benders at casinos and such - this didn't harm their title challenge one bit.

Hell, even Hugh Sh!t took the team paintballing in the week leading up to a crucial game at Raith (which we won IIRC).

I agree. All work and no play, and Davie Irons seems to have fallen right into the same trap.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 08:23:52
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Sep 3 2008, 10:30 PM) [snapback]507168[/snapback]
Oh No? I'm sure the VAST MAJORITY of Morton supporters would disagree - IMO! laugh.gif


What a silly comment. How SURE are you-have you ANY shadow of doubt?
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 4 2008, 08:06 AM) [snapback]507220[/snapback]
Quite bizarre how you complain about being picked on then feel perfectly happy about calling me an arse. I think the term passive-aggressive was coined for you.
It's a good job I'm a big boy and can take it. laugh.gif


Listen to me guitar man, I called you an arse because you ARE an arse.

That, and because you accused me of 'hiding behind an alibi'.

That was either tongue in cheek, or you sure don't have a clue!

I could write you a wee choon for that poosyphobic cacophony you front-a choon about hiding behind an alibi.


It would contain the couplet:

I often ask me-who am I
I've lived so long in alibi

signed


Yours Aye Mortonrae
mortonjag 2008-09-04 08:35:33
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Sep 3 2008, 07:57 PM) [snapback]507092[/snapback]
I don't doubt it VT . We had a guy on today Evander Sno lookalike lasted about 10 minutes in the second half .

It is patently obvious we are short of quality and this small squad thing is a nonsense , we are obviously going to wait and see what shape we are in on January before we decide to act .


....is smaller than it was on Saturday! ph34r.gif

mortonjag 2008-09-04 08:47:54




QUOTE(Trumpton @ Sep 3 2008, 10:43 PM) [snapback]507173[/snapback]
That seems like a good record to me - he must have been a better player than i thought! blush.gif

Templeman is a one off.

Used properly he could be an asset to any first division side, and CERTAINLY to ours as things stand.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 08:55:00
QUOTE(Toby @ Sep 3 2008, 11:25 PM) [snapback]507198[/snapback]
Another one of your pointless digs at the TTG mob. Incidentally, I see you've not replied to my points on the other thread, having previously dug me about not getting round to replying to you.

As for castigating a manager not helping, it did eventually with the previous incumbant smile.gif.

If you finally do get round to addressing this you'll be waiting on your reply, in Macedonia for a few days.

Toby-talking of JM made me wonder if you ever got to the bottom of that incident at Stenhousemuir.

Remember -when the Steward said he'd received instructions from the Morton Official, and Gillian Donaldson appeared to hush everything up?
mortonjag 2008-09-04 09:01:32
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Sep 4 2008, 08:50 AM) [snapback]507228[/snapback]
was that another marble? laugh.gif

Pill time Alistair! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-04 09:23:55
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 3 2008, 08:16 PM) [snapback]507096[/snapback]
"I have no doubt Scotland will judge harshly any MSP who votes to keep the council tax in the face of the overwhelming benefit that would flow to millions of Scots"

Alex Salmond rolleyes.gif

....keeps the council tax in the face of...aye very good Bawheid! ph34r.gif

QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 3 2008, 10:21 PM) [snapback]507164[/snapback]
Actually, business is NOT up in arms about it. Certain business people, like Iain McMillan of the CBI, who is a member of the Calman commission, are against it primarily because they want any opportunity to attack the SNP. The FSB has come out against it but they didn't ask their members what they thought - I know that because I am an FSB member and I complained about the lack of consultation.

The truth is that even the poll tax was more equitable than the current council tax; LIT is a lot fairer than either in that it's variable according to income. Now, personally I would ensure that that includes all income, including dividends, and as you have to put those down on your tax return I can't see why they wouldn't be included, but even though it will probably cost me more overall, I support LIT as a better system and because it's a lot fairer, I consider that better than we property-owners being mugged while many others pay nothing and have greater disposable income as a result.

MJ, the NHS is not a business and people don't choose to be ill - well, not most people - and to mug them while they are in distress is just plain wrong. Well done, Nicola.



Listen to you-a highly intelligent man who completely loses all perspective when it comes to your beloved SNP.

BUSINESS IS up in arms-FACT-did I specify which business? Did I say they are correct?

Now don't start talking complete bollocks about people who are ill being disadvantaged by car park charges. That is SO far from the real truth that I can't believe you didn't deliberately compromise your integrity in an attempt to score cheap political points.

MUG THEM WHILE THEY ARE IN DISTRESS INDEED laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


In today's Herald there's a bit about the Auditors report for this NON-BUSINESS NHS you talk about.

They plan to chuck patients out on the day of their operations to save a paltry 8 million a year. The ACTUAL effect will be an INCREASED cost as any doctor or nurse will explain to you, but doctors and nurses don't count. The NHS sure is a business-a politically run business where spin and lies and greed and self protection MUG the vulnerable day and daily.

The NHS needs every penny it can get from any resource it has. Not charging for parking is simply a political expedient for a Health Minister who is about as close to the coal face as the bloody moon, to which she is clearly tuned. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-04 09:31:32
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Sep 3 2008, 07:18 PM) [snapback]507067[/snapback]
whooosh biggrin.gif
why, to see if you could answer it of course smile.gif



QUOTE(beermonkey @ Sep 3 2008, 07:45 PM) [snapback]507082[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif
Quality

Looks like the Mods thought not-unsurprised that you did.

QUOTE(beermonkey @ Sep 3 2008, 07:48 PM) [snapback]507084[/snapback]
Moronjag doesn't listen to anyone, you can try to shout him down but it's pointless.... just like him ! dry.gif

That's possibly the wittiest thing you've ever said and it's not in the slightest funny.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 10:19:16
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Sep 4 2008, 09:23 AM) [snapback]507233[/snapback]
alibijag seems to be suffering from a further attack of 'litosis' smile.gif

all these als, it must be very confusing for him/her
al is actually an abbreviation for alii, plural of alius. (alias is a different word)

'Et allii' is acceptable Alistair-now take your pill-the green and yellow one for a Thursday remember.

Did you actually study Latin, or do you just witter in a w*nk stained toga?

I prefer et alia. It is entirely appropriate.

et alia (abr. et al)
One entry found.

et alia



Etymology:
Latin


: and others


Mortonjag does not make mistakes! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-04 10:29:38
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 4 2008, 10:14 AM) [snapback]507252[/snapback]
No, I'm accusing you and the other guy of either not knowing anything or being too feart to publish what you know. SImple. Just like you. rolleyes.gif

I am indeed simple McArthur. Simple to the point of being embarrassingly brilliant at focussing on any task in hand. I play guitar passably, too.

My only fear about publishing what I know has been that the time was not ripe!

Just leave the simple things to people who simply know exactly what they're doing.

QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 4 2008, 10:20 AM) [snapback]507255[/snapback]
MJ, publish and be damned.

smile.gif smile.gif

"In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act." ... George Orwell

ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

Very tempted Newt-maybe not quite the moment! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-04 10:43:43
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Sep 4 2008, 09:33 AM) [snapback]507236[/snapback]
Jim Duffy as Morton manager.....you having a laugh!

His managerial record is bordering on comical. Jim Duffy and the other football experts in the media are also rans who couldn't get a job managing a Subway store. I remember Murdo MacLeod on Radio Scotland last season when the possibility of him being a candidate for St Johnstone, i think it was, came up and Murdo said "once you have managed at the level I have, I would only accept a management job at the very highest level in Scotland". When further probed if this meant a job lie Killie or St Mirren he basically said he was above that level......the man is clearly disillusioned! And I don't think it comes down to how much he's on at BBC btw.

Duffy & Macleod are the Scottish version of Peter Reid and Steve McLaren but only worse as they can't even get a job!

That sort of impassioned character assassination always hints of a personal grudge.

I don't have a personal grudge against Mr Rae BTW (added as that's the usual counter attack).

Maybe, of course, it's just your strongly held view.

I find it difficult in the extreme to imagine that Jim Duffy, Murdo MacLeod, or even Mickey Mouse, couldn't do at least as well in the League as the current Manager has done so far.

mortonjag 2008-09-04 11:05:57
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 4 2008, 10:36 AM) [snapback]507271[/snapback]
The man they paraded before the cameras, Iain McMillan, is a member of the Calman Commission, Enough said?

My sister in law recently received a kidney transplant after about 5 years of dialysis three times a week at Edinburgh RI. Taking her there and collecting her involved parking in a pay car park. Can you imagine the amount spent over 5 years? Like I say, charging people who have no choice in the matter. IMHO that's not the way the NHS should work. The issue of stopping people using the service when they don't really need it is really one for the clinical judgement of doctors, who should tell patients where to go if they are simply malingering. I appreciate that this is not always easy, but you can't tax people for being sick (which is what these car park charges are in effect) or else you might as well start charging directly for treatment and operations.

Any dialysis patient I've ever known had access to free patient transport service.

My partner's father is currently undergoing treatment at the Beatson. He could currently use a free TAXI service if he wished-FACT.

We choose to drop him off and pick him up at the appropriate dropping off points. We COULD park, but choose not to use valuable space.

Car parks are for PARKING CARS. Patients who are ill are either going to, coming from, or IN hospital. It's not like a bloody airport Alibi!!!

If they want to park their cars so that they can give them a friendly wave every other day-let them pay for the pleasure.

You can argue the rights and wrongs of charging for visitors and staff, but please DON'T join your stupid little girl Health Minister in palpably lying tripe about 'mugging' ill people.


With regard to local income tax, I stated business is none too pleased. That's what I've been hearing. You may well be correct, though I try to see the big picture instead of being sucked into the political spin of any party.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 11:17:03
QUOTE(leyTON @ Sep 4 2008, 10:58 AM) [snapback]507276[/snapback]
i would rather face a shortfall then charge people to be ill, its a matter of principle
as for people like MJ< they fundamentally dislike the party and nothing this party ever does will impress them, even if they take on their own suggestions. look at labour, they got concessions in the budget but still abstained. AS a consequence, they have OFFICIALLY no opinion on the budget and what it entails, which is pretty much everything

I fundamentally support independence for Scotland.

I instinctively support A Scottish National Party.

I am frustrated by a Government of which I had high hopes. All I seem to see are broken promises, unrealistic vote catching measures, and a perpetuation by Bawheid of anti English paranoia.

I do understand the NHS leyTON, and I DON'T want anything except a better service for patients. Wee Nickerless has so far in my Professional opinion done NOTHING which in real OR FISCAL terms will ultimately benefit patients. Furthermore she has deliberately flown in the face of advice from experts when introducing her people pleasing measures.


Too many people-Alibi included-seem to want the ideal without accepting the cost, and our Health Minister has pandered to that misguided mentality.

I wonder where she will go when she decides on her much needed facial reconstruction. I believe we can safely discount an NHS hospital.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 11:22:22
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 4 2008, 10:34 AM) [snapback]507268[/snapback]
There's a famous story about Tom Jones meeting Elvis Presley during The Kings infamous drug binges and Elvis tells Tom that the CIA have just made him a drug enforcement officer so Tom says to him 'so you'll have to arrest yourself then?'
Why does this story always come into my head when I think of MJ and Douglas Rae?

Also, how does one type the clucking noises made by chickens? mellow.gif

There are many famous stories McArthur.

There are facts too.

QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 4 2008, 10:37 AM) [snapback]507272[/snapback]
Gidday Mortonjag,

I could post something.

But, I have no credibility.

Do I ?

However, my network in Inverclyde, Glasgow, North Ayrshire, Gigha and Oban is growing.

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QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Sep 4 2008, 11:12 AM) [snapback]507287[/snapback]
Simple to the point of being embarrassingly brilliant at focussing on any task in hand.

The mask slips Doctor Raymond Babbit

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mortonjag 2008-09-04 11:26:02
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Sep 4 2008, 11:22 AM) [snapback]507293[/snapback]
Thanks for your opinion. You may be right, however I prefer not to make such rash judgements on our management team after only 5 games of the new season.

It's hardly a 'rash' judgement-more of an ongoing assessment and right now DI's record is abysmal.

I've said elsewhere I still believe we'll finish 5th, and that I believe he's bright enough to turn things round, but right now it's PURE KEECH.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 12:21:53
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Sep 4 2008, 12:10 PM) [snapback]507310[/snapback]
I'm not at all sure - but then I wasn't portaying it as fact....

REALLY!!!

There is a subtle difference between portraying something as fact, and stating that something IS fact, a fact which you understand very well!

Mortonjag NEVER states that anything IS a fact unless it is factual-and that's a fact.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 12:24:38
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Sep 4 2008, 11:18 AM) [snapback]507291[/snapback]
During that period, I regularly saw Morton players smashed in Word Up on Thursday nights. When I questioned one of them about the state he was in (friendly like, not being a wido) I was informed that "Aye, I'm smashed but not smashed enough hawhawhaw". Not impressed.

Maybe this was due to Cowboy's Le Guen style drinking ban making the players rebel or maybe it's coz the players we had at that time were big headed fandans taking the club for a ride? Who knows.

Possibly a bit of both.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 12:30:57
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Sep 4 2008, 11:32 AM) [snapback]507300[/snapback]
And you think we would finish higher with Duffy in charge?!?! ha ha

I don't know, and I've never suggested that I thought the appointment of DI/DC was the worst possible.

For what it's worth I'd much rather we'd appointed experience-something I've been saying ever since Rae chose the last Muppet. I've regularly seen streetwise guys get a lot from very little in the last few years, while Morton managers get very little from quite a lot, and the common factor seems to have been experience or the lack thereof.

I have no personal views on Mr Duffy either way, except that he has MUCH more managerial experience than DI.

You DO appear to hold some sort of personal grudge.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 12:34:32
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Sep 4 2008, 12:26 PM) [snapback]507319[/snapback]
My sources have already told me the line up, but I can't disclose it I'm afraid.

Why.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 12:41:08
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 4 2008, 12:32 PM) [snapback]507322[/snapback]
You are.
Listen, I'd love to see things change at Cappielow and have never had any respect for our current regime (you can go back through my posts if you like) but you guys just sound childish. Publish what you have or don't mention it.
I have a 15 inch penis. You'll never see it so won't ever know if I actually have or not.

Listening McArthur-listening with all ears to more emotive crap.

The fact that you think our exercise of judgement and discretion is 'childish' is a statement about your ego-nothing else.

Leave decisions to those with the wisdom and experience to handle confidential information usefully AND respectfully.

Your penis is 14.34 inches long and 9.71 inches wide, a mere inch less broad than your mouth.

I have that on excellent authority, though of course, I'm not at liberty to reveal my source.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 12:50:19
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Sep 4 2008, 12:43 PM) [snapback]507329[/snapback]
OK. I'm convinced.

Where do I sign?

laugh.gif

On the blank cheque made payable to Monkey Inc.! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-04 12:53:12
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Sep 4 2008, 12:15 PM) [snapback]507313[/snapback]
I fully believed watching Templeman play for us last season that we could start him in every single league game, never sub him, and he would go the season without scoring. There would maybe be the occasional fluke - like his goal at Hamilton with his shoulder was, but Thomson had other ideas. The guy was just blatantly not good enough for the First Division.

Your opinion!
mortonjag 2008-09-04 12:58:20
QUOTE(cmdc @ Sep 4 2008, 12:49 PM) [snapback]507334[/snapback]
Cowboy had a fair bit of experience, and was no better in the job than McInally, so experience isn't necessarily the common factor. Given that Duffy didn't have Dundee punch above their weight, and had Hibs punching distinctly under it, I'm not sure his was the kind of experience we needed either.

I agree that I'd have liked someone with a reasonably successful track record in and about these leagues (despite his history and the fact he's been away from the game for a long time I probably wouldn't have minded Tommy McLean) but I am also convinced by the argument that Irons and not Alexander was at the head of Gretna's push up the leagues, so I do think he's more experienced than he is given credit for.

laugh.gif

I enjoyed watching the football we played under cowboy. He probably had little experience of a Chairman like Rae.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 13:01:33 Nobody seems to know what formation we played against Hibs.

If we're up for it we can win it!
mortonjag 2008-09-04 13:06:17
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Sep 3 2008, 09:46 PM) [snapback]507149[/snapback]
FFS....didn't condoms exist back then? rolleyes.gif

Condoms do not protect unless they're on tadgers.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 13:08:37
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Sep 4 2008, 11:10 AM) [snapback]507286[/snapback]
Yes, it was in the Telegraph yesterday. He got found guilty. sheriff Herald said it was probably the most disturbing and disgusting case he had witnessed in his time at Greenock.

the victims said that he would soil himself before crawling around the floor wearing just his underpants before saying things like ''I've done it again'' or ''dont tell mummy'' in a childs voice.
This is al very bizarre. I dont understand why the girls stayed in his presence or how he managed to repeat these offences. If someone done that in front of me I wouldnt be hanging around.

I guess its one of those things where only a little part of the story is reported.

Done what?
mortonjag 2008-09-04 13:10:12
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Sep 4 2008, 11:37 AM) [snapback]507301[/snapback]
I know what gets my vote! Pouffe! happy.gif

Judge not, that ye be not judged.

I'm getting a bit worried by his apparent disappearance, mind you.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 13:29:59
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 4 2008, 11:32 AM) [snapback]507299[/snapback]
Don't be so fecking obtuse, MJ. If you are collecting someone from hospital, you have to park your car. AFAIK, there is no such free bus service or taxi service in Edinburgh and if there is it doesn't appear to be very well advertised!

Clearly you are just so anti-SNP that you are unable to give them credit for ANYTHING they do. you constantly refer to Alex Salmond as "Bawheid", you make disparaging personal remarks about Nicola Sturgeon, and at every opportunity you come on here blaming the SNP for everything from Morton's lack of strikers to the extinction of dinosaurs.

I make no secret of the fact that I am an SNP member, but I don't necessarily agree with all their policies - for one thing, I would separate religion and schools entirely and I could never support the continuation or worse, extension, of so-called faith schools. i am not dogmatically anti-nuclear although I do think that if it is possible to do without nuclear power, then we should try to do so - although I would like to see continuing research into fusion power which I understand would solve the waste problem as there isn't any. I do however agree broadly with the SNP's policies which IMHO encompass a fairly broad spectrum of left to right without going too far to either extreme. I think social democracy just about describes it.

As far as I am concerned, and the vast bulk of the Scottish population appears to agree whatever their own political allegiances, the current government is doing a far better job than their predecessors - hardly surprising when you consider that the previous lot were little better than a puppet regime. Given the limited powers they have, what they are achieving is even more remarkable. Just think what they could do with full powers, i.e. independence. Anyway, we'll find out in a few years' time. At least we agree that independence per se is the best way forward.

In the meantime, MJ, just keep sniping from the sidelines. We all know you really have the hots for Nicola Sturgeon.



That is absolutely incorrect. There are designated dropping off and picking up places at ALL hospitals, and can be used FOR THAT PURPOSE by anybody, provided the passenger is a bona fide patient. The Patient Transport Service (part of the Scottish Ambulance Service) is freely available to all who require regular outpatient treatment, and who are unable /unwilling to arrange private transport.

I make no bones of the fact that I despise little Nickerless's DELIBERATE mishandling of our health service for political expediency, but then Alibi, unlike you, I pretty well despise all politicians of all parties.

...and she is one ugly cow!

QUOTE(leyTON @ Sep 4 2008, 12:09 PM) [snapback]507309[/snapback]
if you think that the IRh maternity services should be removed and the parking charges should be in place on the sick, you are in a minority

There is no such thing as 'parking charges being placed on the sick'.

That is so obviously political spin and I thought guys like you and Alibi would be bright enough to spot it. Could it be that you choose to ignore the truth?

The NHS is skint-something that stupid young woman well knows but daren't admit when she's promising an NHS which will 'meet demand'!


FACT-hospital parking charges instituted across the board could generate enough revenue to save hundreds of lives every year-possibly thousands.

One of those lives could be yours.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 13:33:54
QUOTE(Patg @ Sep 4 2008, 12:43 PM) [snapback]507331[/snapback]
Scott will reply himself but he informed me months ago that Riordan and his family had been banned from everywere in Einburgh after the court case involving him and his brothers and this is the ban that has suddenly been reported on ...

Scott had Steven Fletcher of Hibs 21 st birthday party in a premise just along the street from his and Riordan was banned from that and people who organised it new this and werent bothered that he wouldnt be there ..

Scott will probably tell you the full story when he reads this and replys ...

Pat G
Ton Till I Die

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mortonjag 2008-09-04 13:37:13
QUOTE(foxy @ Sep 4 2008, 01:15 PM) [snapback]507357[/snapback]
Heard this on the radio this morning. totally shocking & the hotel should issue an apology

It will probably be in Welsh!
mortonjag 2008-09-04 13:41:00
QUOTE(leyTON @ Sep 4 2008, 01:32 PM) [snapback]507371[/snapback]
I am aware of the political and emotive spin placed on this. However there is something based in fact as visitors etc will have to pay. I know a number of NHS workers who can claim these car parking chargers back when visitign other hospitals so how is this saving the NHS money, when these reclaimed charges are paid for by theNHS

I merely object to the suggestion that car parking charges are 'mugging' the sick.

If car parking is to be used to generate revenue, it should be done fairly across the board.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 13:46:00
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Sep 4 2008, 01:23 PM) [snapback]507362[/snapback]
Looks like a good call. Though, I don't know that much about tennis but it'll take a minor miracle to beat Nadal I would have thought.
Looks like ma Murray will be able to make a bit of money selling those invisible nappies. Not that they'll need for a while it with all the dosh won in the US Open.

Precisely-in it for the money-no National allegiance of any sort, and Mummy Murray just loves basking in her superbrat's 'achievements'.

Frankly if this was mine, I'd be disowning it pronto! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-04 13:54:06
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Sep 4 2008, 01:29 PM) [snapback]507369[/snapback]
Given that we merely have a midfield of plodders, I would love to see Templeman play just slightly behind Wake and Russell, not quite as an attacking midfielder, but a second-striker type thing.

He's being rubbished for not scoring when in fact in his latter spell with us he was supposed to be target man and striker rolled into one. I thought his hold up play and distribution were good, and when he is allowed the freedom he can still score goals.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 14:10:42
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Sep 4 2008, 01:06 PM) [snapback]507351[/snapback]
I don't have any problem with you stimulating interest MJ, I simply cannot see what you think is to be gained by continually spinning the same story. As you say no-one would be surprised if AD had some thoughts about his future involvement with Morton but he is unlikely to show his hand before he thinks it most advantageous. Simply repeating that we should told what's going on, or what he thinks, or what's the current owners reaction to this, is unlikely to get any reaction from either party. They will dance to their own tune not anyone else's.

I'd be much more interested in your take on whether any future takeover would be good for Morton or if it would be exposing the club to greater risks than we currently have.

Thank you for your Nostredamus like predictions on Mileson. I'd be grateful of your predictions on night following day or Gordon's Brown's chances at the next election. Equally thanks for you insight on McInally. A good number on here had lost faith in McInally in advance of the Peterhead games although it's fair to say it was a fairly small minority. As for Rae there is no shortage of people who have been less than complimentary about his stewardship for a long time although few have felt the need to comment on it at every possible opportunity. In respect of abuse this is an internet message board and anyone with an opinion can expect to be challenged both politely and otherwise - it's no big deal.

Maybe its time for you to cut down on the amount of trite, inane, dull nonsense that hallmarks the vast majority of your posts and concentrate on the quality.

Listen to me TUM TUM- I think I've been too patient and too polite with arseholes. There were VERY, VERY few who dared criticise Rae, JM, and Mileson in the early days, and they took PLENTY OF ABUSE from the very folk who now glibly state that 'It was obvious from day one'.

It's not worth trawling through old posts but there would be plenty of very red faces and mine would not be one of them.

NOW-I'm going to follow Barbarossa here-I'll say exactly what I want, as often as I want, and I won't lose any sleep over it either.

You ARE free to challenge me politely OR OTHERWISE, though I'd prefer you didn't indulge in the type of personal attack which was all too common in those early days.

What is YOUR take on how good or bad Mr Donald might be for our club? Maybe we'd all be in a better position to judge if we had some openness from him and from the club.

WELL?



QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Sep 4 2008, 01:19 PM) [snapback]507359[/snapback]
here here

Aye very good.

'There there' would have been equally inaccurate, or maybe those who can't handle the truth need a big one from their Mummies! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-04 14:20:20
QUOTE(cmdc @ Sep 4 2008, 01:04 PM) [snapback]507348[/snapback]
Up to a point only, surely? The collapse, and the beginning of the following season were every bit as bad as McInally's worst days. In fact, under McInally only Peterhead away was more sickening to me than Stenhousemuir at Cappielow under McCormack...and at least McInally had the excuse that he finished well clear in second place. McCormack's team finished fourth!

Incidentally, I've never met McCormack, but I'm told by someone who has since played for him that he is actually pretty complimentary about Rae as a Chairman.

I don't really care too much if Cowboy was good, bad, or ugly-at least he gave us a feel good factor and some decent football for a while. IMO we NEVER had either under JM, and the fact that Rae wanted to retain his services has far too often been glossed over. He's had long enough to stamp his trade mark on the Third Division, and it seems not much cop!

QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Sep 4 2008, 01:39 PM) [snapback]507377[/snapback]
I think we have to bear in mind that very few club chairmen are popular with supporters or players. A lot of clubs would probably be happy to have a chairman like ours.

However each chairman, whether popular or not, clearly has his own agenda and motive based on the reasons he took on the position in the first place. It's a deviation from their normal business, they've paid a lot of money to put their plan into place. If the chairman's ideas match those of the fans you normally get success, e.g. Dick Donald, the opposite extreme would be H--- S----.

However that shouldn't prevent us from questioning what's happening at our clubs. People are saying there's a pattern of inexperienced managers with the common denominator being our chairman, with similar results. Another pattern that can't be ignored is the number of players we sign who perform well for other clubs and then seem to lose form with Morton. Many also seem to lose heart and their heads seem to go down.

These trends are quite unusual and more so in that they continue over the years no matter what manager is in charge. In many the managers or players start off well then tend to tail off later. One of the mysteries for me though is something that has also been constant throughout the last several years, the inability to put a balanced team on the park, i.e. too many of one position or one type and not enough/none of others. I find it hard to understand why we can't bring in a decent standard of player for each position then build from there.

Another trend has been the lack of young players coming through. Are these points all down to a succession of managers spanning several years or are we right to ask if there is a common denominator?

DOT you are the diplomat supreme! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-04 14:27:19
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Sep 4 2008, 02:19 PM) [snapback]507412[/snapback]
McInally was a gamble, but you cannot tell right away if someone is going to be a failure.....that is a very narrowminded approach. Managers need to start somewhere, Mark Hughes for example was a gamble for Wales, but did very well.

In my opinion Irons has the experience requried....it would be nice of we could all get behind our manager.....after all we are all aiming for the same common goal.

Hear, hear! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-04 14:31:19
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Sep 4 2008, 01:56 PM) [snapback]507393[/snapback]
It is very honourable of you to stick up for a man in your fellow profession, however ther facts remain his record in 1st division is STINKING!

You're thinking of Dr. Deuchar-the money grabbing ship jumper.

Dr Templeman-I think not! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-04 14:40:20
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Sep 4 2008, 01:53 PM) [snapback]507386[/snapback]
Maybe he's spent the last few days riding a 21 year old with cracking boobies?

I prefer the large silent flexible type.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 14:53:23 Graham Spiers-son of a Baptist minister (good chaps those like Rev McCurry)!

Clever chappie wee Graham. We NEED to have legislation to stamp out religious bigotry and while I'm at it I'll make a few bob out of stirring up more trouble by painting the Huns in a worse light than the Tims-let's face it-they won't spot my nasty wee mercenary ploy when I'm a well known Proddy!

Very poor show indeed Graham. You know you only have to mention Neil Lennon in this context, and the fists start flying.

Good God-Ashton Lane-only yards from your old man's old church.

Sure it wasn't you who bopped him just to get a scabby wee story?
mortonjag 2008-09-04 16:04:05
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Sep 4 2008, 03:04 PM) [snapback]507447[/snapback]
I would hope that I don't stray into personal attacks on anyone on here although it's fair to say it's tempting at times. I will continue to challenge or support your views as I see fit.

Personally I do not feel we can move forward as a club unless and until there is radical change at the top. In my opinion the last 4 years have been about wasted opportunitites both on and off the park and in many ways although we are playing at a higher level the club appears to be in a far poorer state. I'm concerned that there is absolutely no sign of a serious attempt to build for the future and that continued atrophy is all that we have to look forward to. I'm hopeful that at some point the chairman will apply business principles to running the club and decide enough is enough and let someone who has better ideas and the wherewithall to deliver them to take over. I have no idea if AD is the man that fits the bill and I look forward to hearing what his agenda may be. I have no expectation that anything will be revealed until the key players want it. Equally I'm under no illusions that when changes come that the fans will be involved/consulted.

That seems a well balanced and reasonable summary of the status quo and in particular I agree with the last sentence.

What I take issue with is the apparent perception by some that the fans have no right to attempt to influence the Chairman's thinking. That is often allied to meaningless challenges to those who highlight deficiencies to 'put up or shut up'.

Gone are the days of 'I'll be eternally grateful', and 'Dougie, Dougie gie's a wave'. Some have suggested we shouldn't be too critical in case Mr Rae 'walks away'. I understand that fear, but think it ultimately achieves nothing except to reinforce his belief that he's 'right'.

I have little doubt that Alistair Donald wants control of the Club. I have no fears that he would attempt to 'asset strip' it-Morton is small beer to a man of his wealth. Whether or not he would prove to be as devoted to Greenock Morton as our current Chairman is questionable, but misguided devotion is getting us nowhere.

I believe it is time for Mr Rae to cut his losses, and totally let go of the reins, if indeed we have a wealthy backer waiting in the wings. Everything in football those days is a gamble, and that's a gamble I would be willing to take.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 16:19:04
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 4 2008, 03:58 PM) [snapback]507456[/snapback]
Actually you touch here on the broader issue of whether or not you should be charged every time you stop your car anywhere. Governments, and this current UK one in particular, see motorists as cash cows.

If they really wanted to find additional money for the NHS, they could start by taking a decision to abandon the plans to replace Trident. That would allow them to increase the block grant and hey presto, the NHS funding issue is solved. Or even better, let Scotland have her oil revenues, set up an oil fund, and again, we have the power to deliver an excellent health service without having billions of pounds syphoned off in extortionate and inflexible PFI schemes. The funding problems in the NHS are largely because the likes of blair and brown have set up a system where we are all being robbed blind and told we're getting a good deal.



You may well be correct in those assertions.

I prefer at the moment to stick to the thread agenda which relates to what I regard as another example of short sighted political expediency on the part of a very inexperienced Health Minister.

I would love Nickerless to stand up and say something like 'We're bloody skint until we scrap Trident and get our own oil, so I CAN'T deliver a Health Service which will meet demand. I hope you will understand that I need to introduce some unpopular measures in the interim'.


Do you think she will ever get round to doing that?

mortonjag 2008-09-04 16:51:48
QUOTE(EBu @ Sep 4 2008, 10:35 AM) [snapback]507270[/snapback]
I remember the good old days where a full back would let the tricky pacy winger skin him once for pace, the next time he tried it the full back would take the booking, give the winger the message and he'd be no bother after that.

Instead we're picking up stupid bookings in the wrong areas of the pitch (never mind captain marvels sending off).

The game has changed so much-particularly in the pressure on referees. I believe that in the good old days a ref was genuinely 'in charge'. Nowadays they are constantly worried about what others will think, and whether or not they'll get a 'good' match to ref next time.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 17:03:17
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 4 2008, 04:44 PM) [snapback]507475[/snapback]
Absolutely agree 100%.
He spends far too much time acting like a 17 year-old courting controversy when he could have written that days ago.

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mortonjag 2008-09-04 17:08:24 We will win-I've just decided. Last Saturday may prove to be our lowest point for a long time to come. Those who don't make the journey to Palmerston will only have themselves to blame. The Monkey say 2-1 with goals from Jenkins and Spoonsy.

C'MON YE TON



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mortonjag 2008-09-04 17:13:51
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 4 2008, 04:42 PM) [snapback]507474[/snapback]
Cowboy did have us playing some nice football until he lost the dressing room and he just did not have the managerial skills to get it back. After the collapse and blowing our 14 point lead, he should have been fired at the end of that season and that error probably cost us an extra season in the second division.

There clearly have been some dressing room issues in the last week at least with the Newby situation etc., etc. and it remains to be seen if irons can get it back. I hope he can as I just don't believe our players are as bad a team as last Sauturday suggests.

The really unfortunate thing is though that other teams are actually better than we I thought. Before the start most of us would have had Livi in the bottom half. Its shaping like we might be in a league with Clyde and Ross County to avoid relegation as everyone else looks better than us even if we play reasonably well.

Let's put it this way-if there has been a rift, it's either being fixed or we're well and truly f*cked.

I firmly believe it'll be sorted in time for a famous victory this Sunday.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 17:21:57
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 4 2008, 05:09 PM) [snapback]507488[/snapback]
Well, you could have. If you had written that on Wednesday morning then we wouldn't have fallen out and I wouldn't have wasted valuable selling time writing stuff on here. In fact, I reckon my replying to your pish has cost me money so I'll now go and work out how much and you can square me up with a cheque from Golden Casket. How does that sound Douglas? wink.gif laugh.gif

That should be no problem my good chap. Will it be in order for the cheque to come from Accenture-it's just a little sideline I have going you understand.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 17:48:45
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Sep 4 2008, 04:20 PM) [snapback]507466[/snapback]
it was quoted last week in the telegraph, the wife didnt even need to ask what it was about when police arrived to arrest him, she said to police "everyone will know about this now" i find that a bit strange, so it obviously happened in front of her or the children involved are closely related to her, surely it wasnt his own kids???

the strange thing was, that i worked with him during the time he was abusing these kids, just goes to show, you think you know people.

Indeed-and how do you view him now-a poor guy with an unfortunate psychological illness, or an evil conniving fiend who's betrayed the trust of children.

Now that he's (presumably) a convicted paedophile, I believe he should be offered hormonal treatment (chemical castration) for what I believe is an illness. That's in the public interest which must precede any individual 'human right'.

If he refuses-what then?
mortonjag 2008-09-04 17:59:26
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 4 2008, 05:45 PM) [snapback]507495[/snapback]
I would accept payment in Millions Douglas, it's no problem to me.

How many millions do you require in settlement. I'm a reasonable and honourable man as you know. I'm doing a special line at the moment on those tiny tasty chewy purple ones. May I offer you four jars in full and final settlement?
mortonjag 2008-09-04 18:14:34 I don't think it matters. We don't exactly have twenty or thirty to pick from, and things can (and should) be switched around on the day if necessary.

What's FAR more important is that the guys are determined to get back on track after Saturday's abysmal capitulation.

I believe they will.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 18:28:36
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 3 2008, 12:34 PM) [snapback]506839[/snapback]
as posted earlier ...

If his opinions were wrong, why are others now jumping on the MJ bandwagon ?

I think it's more a case of the truth having taken longer for most folk Newt.

It's great to see that folk are coming to their senses at last, and thankfully most of the unwarranted personal abuse is a thing of the past.

Those still indulging do so because they have what they see as personal scores to settle. Don't you think that's a little sad on our friendly little massage board? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-04 19:11:56
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Sep 4 2008, 07:02 PM) [snapback]507535[/snapback]
Nope, your still a boring arsehole !


For whom you have a fatal fascination.

You are awful, but I like you (a little)! blush.gif

So does the monkey who sends an offering.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 19:29:11
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 4 2008, 07:01 PM) [snapback]507532[/snapback]
he should have 10 tone of Elephant s*** shoved up his arse...oh wait a minute....forget that he would probably enjoy it.

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You really don't like paedos---

not that I do-I hasten to add! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-04 19:40:27
QUOTE(chris_mceleny @ Sep 4 2008, 07:27 PM) [snapback]507539[/snapback]
wake is rubbish i'm sorry to tell you that. did ddfr not get a bit of abuse at the q&a for his signing. Tell me his goal scoring rate again? your quick to have a go at my formation and team so lets see yours smart ar$e!

Are you at the 'wind up'?


Wake has been immense for us this season. Scoring goals is not everything. I imagine you thought Sanny was pure keech too!
mortonjag 2008-09-04 20:23:16
QUOTE(chris_mceleny @ Sep 4 2008, 07:44 PM) [snapback]507546[/snapback]
if you look at what is still my message footnote you will see i did not think sanny was rubbish!

Well we're agreed on that-why do you think Wakey is rubbish-please don't say 'because he ain't scoring goals'.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 20:29:24
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Sep 4 2008, 07:52 PM) [snapback]507551[/snapback]
Like you have with mr rae ? dry.gif

Actually that's more of an obsession.

I really don't understand what you're talking about. Who is this mr rae of whom you write?
mortonjag 2008-09-04 20:45:46
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 4 2008, 08:33 PM) [snapback]507567[/snapback]
When you see my nice Blue Frenchie flair disappearing in the distance in front of your staid Swedish Vectra Saab you will have proof positive I was there! And I agree, the players will have something to prove. I fancy us to do something!

I wonder if Irons got rid of an sh1t-stirrer in the dressing room?

Guess I'll never know if you've been then!
mortonjag 2008-09-04 20:58:19
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 4 2008, 08:47 PM) [snapback]507578[/snapback]
Why does he not just come out and say he's a bender ? That would stop the speculation immediately and put me out my misery rolleyes.gif

When I say misery, I don't actually mean misery. It was more being nosey about his sexual preferences. unsure.gif

He writes: "He hadn't had any thought at the beginning of giving up the priesthood, but when it became clear he was thinking of the possibility, I suggested he might help me with some charitable projects.


Like reaming my wee tight bum twice nightly with his Holy Willie! laugh.gif

C'mon Spurtle-he's 67 years of age. Full credit to Sir Cliff for coming out in a dignified way.

You must be BURNING with jealousy.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 21:24:24
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 4 2008, 09:05 PM) [snapback]507586[/snapback]
Right, I've worked it out and it'll cost you either 4 jars of sweeties or Peter Weatherson. It's your choice Dougie, I can call you Dougie can't I? blink.gif

You may call me Douglas, and your sweeties are already in the post.

Spoonsy Woonsy-erm-Peter's going nowhere.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 21:27:44
QUOTE(chris_mceleny @ Sep 4 2008, 09:08 PM) [snapback]507588[/snapback]
before he scored a few at the end of the season everyone thought it was a stupid signing and from what i've seen this season he's all effort with no skill and finish.

From what I've seen this season, he's done the work of two men. His 'hold up' play and distribution have been a revelation, and he can still score IF given the opportunity. Please don't blame Wakey for the DIRE supply.
mortonjag 2008-09-04 21:31:04
QUOTE(on_the_piss @ Sep 4 2008, 08:47 PM) [snapback]507577[/snapback]
now i think he is a perverted b*****d who should be castrated, not with chemicals though - chop chop - then let him bleed to death.

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mortonjag 2008-09-04 21:34:11
QUOTE(SramTon @ Sep 4 2008, 09:06 PM) [snapback]507587[/snapback]
First time I've heard it called "a home"!

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A dwelling place for Homo Erectus a.k.a Spurtulus Spurtus?
mortonjag 2008-09-04 21:58:54
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 4 2008, 09:51 PM) [snapback]507606[/snapback]
aye in the changing room! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
im a hoot, me.

A horn darling!
mortonjag 2008-09-04 22:14:45
QUOTE(SramTon @ Sep 4 2008, 10:07 PM) [snapback]507611[/snapback]
All together now:

"We're all going on a bummer holiday,
no more worries for a gay or two..."

etc etc.

When I was sixteen I fell in love
with a girl as sweet as could be.
But I remember'd just in time,
what my daddy said to me.
He said "Son you are a bachelor boy
and that's the way to stay.
Son, you be a bachelor boy until your dyin' day

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mortonjag 2008-09-04 22:16:57
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Sep 4 2008, 09:57 PM) [snapback]507608[/snapback]
Quite right to , they have dishes and ironing to keep them busy rolleyes.gif
that will start them all off


Dldoridoo
mortonjag 2008-09-05 06:36:56
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 4 2008, 11:58 PM) [snapback]507642[/snapback]
I think playing Mcalister at left back would be finally giving up the ghost in actually going out to win games rather than not lose them.

Agreed.

QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 5 2008, 12:07 AM) [snapback]507648[/snapback]
No! It will be fine! I'll make a rude gesture on the way past so you can be sure!!



Provided we win, and provided you'll be ready to disappear quickly into the distance in my driving mirror, you may overtake me with your horn blaring, Ton scarves hanging out of all windows, and nakedly tossing yourself off to the strains of 'One Davie Irons'.
mortonjag 2008-09-05 06:57:49
QUOTE(El gofer @ Sep 5 2008, 02:28 AM) [snapback]507672[/snapback]
Didnt get that last bit NT, but I must say that I am pleased that a consensus has finally been reached on here. Davie Mac and TT, I agreed with your posts and also MJ's.

We are stagnating and seem to have no structure whatsoever to our club. I am hoping that DC is starting to sort the Yoof system out, as I think that there is so much untapped talent locally. Elsewhere, we are a joke commercially and I wont hold my breath for the stadium changes. Have I missed anything.

The thing that irritates me about MJ is when he stoops to the level of personal abuse and "I know something" stuff. (I will now speak in the 3rd person)
Gofer thinks that MJ is very articulate andMJ makes a lot of good points. Unfortunately, Gofer has to wade through a lot of keech first from MJ!!
Gofer really does think that if MJ has evidence then he should form an organised group to raise these properly.


Gofer concurs that the last 4 years seem to have been wasted and that we have gone backwards.

Gofer feel sad......

Then Gofer remember he off tomorrow.

Gofer has drink of his beer and now Gofer happy again....

Mortonjag is delighted to be able to irritate relatively intelligent people in addition to the regular clowns.

Mortonjag, buoyed by Barbarossa's bravado, will continue to say exactly what Mortonjag pleases, in exactly the manner which pleases Mortonjag. Mortonjag will lose no sleep over it.

Mortonjag will continue to personally abuse those who personally abuse Mortonjag.

Mortonjag will be the sole judge of how and when confidential information held by Mortonjag will best be used.




mortonjag 2008-09-05 07:09:27
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Sep 4 2008, 10:33 PM) [snapback]507619[/snapback]
MJ - if your are replying to my post - don't bother.

I can't see your posts and have no desire to.

I was responding to your post with a legitimate question.

There's only one thing I detest more than pomposity, and it's pompous school teachers who think everyone else should be treated like pupils.


ESPECIALLY pompous school teachers with serpentine jowls who cannot type even two lines without making an elementary error.

You are of course, perfectly entitled to cower under your little 'huff button'.

'Boasting' thereof is usually seen by intelligent posters as rather childish, and they are wont to quote Mortonjag's posts to that effect. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-05 07:17:18
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 5 2008, 07:05 AM) [snapback]507689[/snapback]
... and no correspondence will be entered into ?

Mortonjag will continue to correspond with Mortonjag's p.m. club with regard to all pertinent matters.

Extra loyalty points will continue to be awarded where considered appropriate, and can be redeemed at this year's Scottish Cup Final between Morton and Airdrie.

The Monkey shall be the sole judge of propriety.
mortonjag 2008-09-05 07:44:58
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 5 2008, 07:41 AM) [snapback]507694[/snapback]
Goodness mortonjag - do you live in a parallel universe, where it is already 2009 ?

The 2008 Scottish Cup Final has been run and won.

The Monkey has awarded you two extra loyalty points for observation.
mortonjag 2008-09-05 07:53:10
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 5 2008, 12:06 AM) [snapback]507645[/snapback]
Naw, only when I piss... huh.gif

Try wearing condoms-the pee pipe doesn't like jobby.

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 5 2008, 12:07 AM) [snapback]507647[/snapback]
Did't realise he was only a priest. I thought he was a bishop or something when Cliff said he was a "chief bummer"

Did you envisage Sir Cliff giving the Bishopric the benefit of his oral excellence?

QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 5 2008, 06:42 AM) [snapback]507687[/snapback]
Is the ex priest allowed to pop a few viagra?

No need, his friend will simply sing


Stand up, stand up for Jesus.
mortonjag 2008-09-05 07:57:13
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Sep 5 2008, 06:14 AM) [snapback]507679[/snapback]
All very bizarre.

I mean, I know there was some sort of sexual contact with his victims aswell which is unforgiveable and he needs punished for, but, supposing this fella was acting like this infront of adults (soiling himself) instead of kids, it still would be completely abnormal. He clearly has problems with his mental health; I think in this particular case, without knowing all the facts, this bloke does need some sort of ''help'' not just punishment, as clearly he is ill/sick.

A very sad and disturbing situation.

True.

I really hope we hump Queens this Sunday.
mortonjag 2008-09-05 08:12:13
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 5 2008, 07:44 AM) [snapback]507695[/snapback]
your nae serious.

AyrshireTon ain't no teacher.

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Oh dear-then I've been crediting him with intelligence when the poor soul is clearly not quite up to the mark.

For that I apologise.
mortonjag 2008-09-05 08:16:56
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 5 2008, 07:47 AM) [snapback]507697[/snapback]
aw - I wis hoping for a star.

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The Monkey says you're rapidly approaching the first gold star bonus award. There are one or two others in close contention, and their identities must remain confidential-though one of them is not Smegma.
mortonjag 2008-09-05 08:59:24
QUOTE(CJTon @ Jun 27 2008, 11:53 PM) [snapback]467962[/snapback]
My comments are based on my perception from actually meeting AD.

I have had the chance for over 30 years to see the inner workings of the club (by the way I have no formal connection with the club) and have got to know the people running the club. I know how hard they have worked to get the club to where it is today and I know exactly how bad it was in the times of HS. I have seen first hand the respect GMFC has built in the football community from a ruinous base back in the bad old days.

Our club is not doing too bad at all having survived in the 1st division last season and is hopefully set up now to move forward to the next stage. That is what everybody wants and obviously people will have different visions as to how we will achieve this


It appears that we have reached a stage where Alistair Donald should be showing his hand.

We clearly are making very heavy water of 'moving on to the next stage'-indeed some seem to suggest we are foundering if not actually going down.

Confidence in the current regime at Cappielow is undoubtedly at an all time low, with people suggesting that Mr Rae should 'cut his losses', and the closure of the recent transfer window putting 'the rubber stamp' on the Club's lack of financial resources.

Put simply-without inward investment, and particularly if Mr Rae is allowed to retain control, our club may very well be doomed to languish in the lower divisions for some time-if not for ever.

I started this thread because I believed it was important to know of Alistair Donald's plans.

It is now imperative that some guidance comes from the Club, and/or Mr Donald regarding our financial future.
mortonjag 2008-09-05 09:15:09
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 5 2008, 09:00 AM) [snapback]507714[/snapback]
Pompous teachers, pompous doctors, this place is full of pompous public servants.

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Pompous pedlars too!


On yer bike McArthur.
mortonjag 2008-09-05 09:20:04
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 5 2008, 08:23 AM) [snapback]507705[/snapback]
Where's my sweeties Douglas? I sat up all night and they didn't arrive. mad.gif

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QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 5 2008, 08:56 AM) [snapback]507709[/snapback]
I believe he is having trouble with the suppliers, they should arrive from Germany within the next 48hrs, if you give him another 24hrs after that to bag them then they should be with you by Tuesday, Wednesday at the latest.

I knew they were 'Out of the country'-that is a perfectly acceptable explanation midTons.

QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 5 2008, 08:57 AM) [snapback]507710[/snapback]
Not good enough. My company provide a 24-hour delivery service and the warehouse is based in Brighton. I demand Peter Weatherson.

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QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 5 2008, 09:04 AM) [snapback]507715[/snapback]
I'll get me coat shoes and coat on, I'll personally have Peter in East Kilbride within the hour, remember once you sign for him we aint taking him back.

I'd leave it for a couple of hours-the traffic's still quite heavy and horse boxes can be difficult to negotiate.
mortonjag 2008-09-05 09:34:36
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Sep 5 2008, 09:00 AM) [snapback]507713[/snapback]
Many a slip twixt cup and lip darling blush.gif

P.S. Why don't they just set up a Bum Boys Church? Or has that been done already...?

Aren't they all? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-05 09:37:07
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Sep 5 2008, 09:30 AM) [snapback]507720[/snapback]
I'm pretty sure I saw Kevin Keegan hot footing it along the esplanade wearing nothing but our 3rd strip and carrying a tub wi millions on it, not sure if it was mike ashleys millions of dougies though

Helicopter?
mortonjag 2008-09-05 09:40:24
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Sep 5 2008, 08:58 AM) [snapback]507711[/snapback]
That'll be plain old prejudice then?

Or the truth, or lies?
mortonjag 2008-09-05 09:44:14
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Sep 5 2008, 09:40 AM) [snapback]507725[/snapback]
I will be so f***ing jealous if he has! But he hasn't. I will stake my ringpiece on that! Pouffe!

HMM-always expect the unexpected.

Mind you the silence is a little ominous! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-05 10:49:15
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Sep 5 2008, 10:31 AM) [snapback]507731[/snapback]
As posted by Jonaton on another thread.

http://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/article...=2&id=18866

Alistair Donald is at the club to play a devil's advocate role......not disimiliar to your role on here sir.
And again courtesy of Jonaton. The investment plans to upgrade Cappielow to SPL compliant criteria.

http://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/articles/1/24967
As reported elsewhere our playing staff budget for this season has increased by £180k.
All very ambitous plans some would suggest.

I sincerely hope this thread is not going to follow its previous pattern.

I am more than well aware of the information you have supplied. All of us who are genuinely concerned about the status quo keep well up to date.

Why are you stating unequivocally that AD is merely 'playing devil's advocate' on the basis of a Tilly report that's almost nine months out of date?

It's well documented that the share issue is spread over five years, and SPECIFICALLY earmarked to get the ground up to SPL standard. It's good, but hardly 'ambitious'. I'd like to think we could be playing remunerative SPL football a.s.a.p.

Equally, the increase in the wages budget is welcome (I wonder where THAT money is coming from), but sees us languishing at the bottom of our division.

Yesterday it was generally agreed that it's time for Mr Rae to step down. If you sincerely believe that AD's only here as an advisor, and that the club is moving upwards, I believe you are now part of a very small minority.

Do you honestly envisage progress without substantial inward investment?
mortonjag 2008-09-05 10:52:54
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Sep 5 2008, 09:48 AM) [snapback]507730[/snapback]
I'm afraid this was deemed not a serious enough matter for the flying aces to be dispatched, unless there is a delivery of HOT fish suppers involved resources are preserved and protected.

I wonder if Spoonsy's near E. Kilbride yet.
mortonjag 2008-09-05 11:20:14
QUOTE(centralTON @ Sep 5 2008, 11:14 AM) [snapback]507738[/snapback]
As unbelievable as it may seem.......... it's come to that. We seem to be so bereft of defensive talent that we may now have to turn to players that many would have liked punted close season. I'm hopeful that Walker might make Sunday though.

I still thing big Stu has something to offer. If he was playing alongside a seasoned pro who reads the game well and is vocal I'd be quite happy. I'd hoped McManus could fulfil that role.

Maybe he still can.
mortonjag 2008-09-05 11:25:53
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Sep 5 2008, 11:17 AM) [snapback]507739[/snapback]
We possibly do need a new direction....I honestly don't know as I am not in receipt of any factual evidence, therefore I cannot make any conclusions either way.......All I have seen on here and the DDF cut his losses thread are wishy washy rumours started by people who cannot back up their claims. (and I am not getting at you here MJ)

Fair enough.

Like yourself, I don't think wishy washy rumours prove anything, and that's why I believe it's imperative that the fans are 'put out of their misery' by a statement of intent from the Club/AD.
mortonjag 2008-09-05 11:43:48
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Sep 5 2008, 11:29 AM) [snapback]507743[/snapback]
And who was it generally agreed he should go ? The board of directors, his family, companys house, who? because i never seen anything in the press about it. I remember a wee while ago that i asked if you would start to organise a 'time to go dougie' protest as you have spent the last 3 years uncovering discrepancies in the running of the club. I have yet to see that materalise. Why is that mortonjag? why not organise a proper protest about the way the club is being run instead of sniping from afar on a internet forum.

If you think that would be a good idea at this stage, I don't.

If you think that the ground swell of opinion that Mr Rae has taken us as far as he can goes unnoticed at Cappielow, I don't.

If you think that Mr Donald is unaware that the fans desperately want to know if 'he's in or out', I don't.

Finally, if you regard asking legitimate questions as 'sniping from afar', I don't.


Do you believe that a 'Time to go Dougie' campaign would be a good idea BEFORE we know what Mr Donald's intentions are?

mortonjag 2008-09-05 11:51:20
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 5 2008, 11:44 AM) [snapback]507745[/snapback]
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I've legged it down to Ayr and I've told the cleaners not to accept any dodgy looking Geordies.......I'd rather have the sweeties if that's ok?

Very well, but bear in mind that the purple millions are 'out of the country' at the moment. Perhaps you'd prefer some of those.
mortonjag 2008-09-05 11:58:42
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 5 2008, 11:53 AM) [snapback]507749[/snapback]
Whatever you have in stock Dougie, just don't send me Weatherson!!!!! blink.gif

Mr McArthur, I've been informed that he has now locked himself inside your garage. I hope he can find some food and drink therein. I'll take him back provided you can arrange transport.


Yours aye


Douglas.
mortonjag 2008-09-05 12:05:44
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 5 2008, 12:00 PM) [snapback]507752[/snapback]
Loving the 'yours aye' bit.... laugh.gif

I always like to personalise my personal correspondence Mr McArthur. The question remains, will Peter find enough to drink in your garage. He tends to become somewhat erratic when thirsty and I'd hate to have your esteemed neighbours disturbed.
mortonjag 2008-09-05 12:35:37
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 5 2008, 12:18 PM) [snapback]507755[/snapback]
And he will hump your leg Davie.

That's true Davie, and take my advice on this.

Semen spattered suits don't sell sweeties.
mortonjag 2008-09-05 13:22:58
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 5 2008, 12:49 PM) [snapback]507763[/snapback]
oh dear God, he's raising this nonsense from the grave again, I'd hoped it had been put out of its misery weeks ago....... (the THREAD, that is, not Moronjag, unfortunately!)

Let's get this straight.

1. We have no divine right to know anything about the internal running of GMFC. We may WANT to know (or, at least, SOME of us might), but we have no entitlement to that information - unless we are shareholders, and even then minority shareholders are not automatically privy to every piece of information about a company).

2. MJ must look at this forum and feel quietly proud. "Mmmm, almost 750 posts and over 33,000 "hits"......." ....... but if you scan the posts and those who post you'll see that there are just a small number of regular (sometimes VERY regular) posters, maybe 40 or so altogether. And as many are railing AGAINST his s***-stirring as are FOR it. This thread is the equivalent of a boozy pub conversation amongst supporters after a match, or on the coach going home from an away game, and is of about as much relevance or importance.

3. After all of the posts mentioned above, all that's been uncovered (shock, horror) is a minor error in terms of paperwork. Remarks about mountains and molehills come to mind........ dry.gif Anything else is off-topic and, almost without exception, more s***-stirring.

For heaven's sake, guys, don't rise to the old curmudgeon's bait. If this thread doesn't attract comment from anyone other than its originator it will quickly die a death - not nearly quickly enough, granted, but let's put it out of its - and our - misery NOW.

Let it go, Moronjag, and move along, there's a good coffin-dodger, there's nothing more to see here.......



Like all the other wounded insiders your time will come. Perhaps you are in fact back for more! rolleyes.gif

The fans ARE interested, and YOU have no divine right to come on here preaching from the gospel according to Dougie's minions.

So the Board is above questioning is it? Holier than the scummy fans?

Perhaps-but only so long as we pay our money through those antiquated Scapa turnstyles and enough reaches the proper destination. A club without fans is dead, and the fans have been drifting away. Your master knows that. You know that.

Without the fans there would be no Shimmin Ton, no Mabawsa Ritchie, and perhaps no Ron Number. Maybe when AD takes over they'll get their jotters anyway. Scapa is hardly renowned for the efficiency of the employees!

Douglas Rae is 'past his sell by date', Alistair Donald appears to be waiting to pounce, and the Club is at the moment in semi-crisis-cash strapped, unable to sign players- and with a Manager whose ability is currently the topic of serious debate, while he tries to deal with abysmal form, alleged dressing room unrest, purported transfer requests, and players running off homesick.

Meanwhile your raison d'etre is to continue your personal grievance against Mortonjag. That is unhelpful in the current situation. It's also patently selfish, and will achieve nothing except perhaps to stimulate further interest in this thread.

No harm done then.

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mortonjag 2008-09-05 13:31:28
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 5 2008, 12:58 PM) [snapback]507766[/snapback]
I've signed nothing Douglas, he's your player and you still own him. The cleaners will only allow him in if he takes off his shoes.
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Mr McArthur, the cleaners were apparently terrified at the sight of 'inside oot face' and bowed to his demand for the garage keys. He is, I'm reliably informed, currently barricaded therein, and has been heard banging about, singing, and latterly mumbling to himself.

I'm not sure what to suggest. Should we call the Police-an ambulance perhaps?

Yours very aye

Douglas.
mortonjag 2008-09-05 13:34:35
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 5 2008, 01:32 PM) [snapback]507783[/snapback]
All I can say is, 'here we go again'

As for him being messed about... pot kettle and all that.

TTG Peter

Well nothing will happen until he gets out of McArthur's garage.
mortonjag 2008-09-05 13:38:48
QUOTE(Mr Toon @ Sep 5 2008, 01:36 PM) [snapback]507786[/snapback]
What?

He's locked himself in Davie McArthur's garage-haven't you heard?
mortonjag 2008-09-05 13:49:11
QUOTE(irnbru @ Sep 5 2008, 01:43 PM) [snapback]507792[/snapback]
Have I missed something with dressing room unrest, etc????

Back on topic however. Of course the fans should know how the club is being run especially after the problems we have had in the past.

Dougie Rae can't be let off time after time with the old he saved the club nonsense. Even that wee baldy b*****d Scott could have been continously back by such theories and what would have happened then??

I'm not in any way saying the situation is a severe as that but it shows what can happen if things are just let go. The club is festering at not too slow a rate and has been for a while so surely no one can advocate the continuation of this?

There may be absolutely no substance to the rumours which were flying about over the weekend.

Some might comment 'No smoke without fire'.
mortonjag 2008-09-05 13:52:11
QUOTE(Mr Toon @ Sep 5 2008, 01:49 PM) [snapback]507795[/snapback]
I suspect I am going to regret asking this, and am not about to embark on a spate of multiple postings ; so, if possible a succinct but comprehensive answer please.

Why?

Because Mr Rae's purple millions are still 'out of the country'.
mortonjag 2008-09-05 13:56:48
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 5 2008, 01:15 PM) [snapback]507773[/snapback]
My mother had the unfortunate position of having to deal with these f***wits in her profession before she retired, in her professional opinion she NEVER came across a paedophile that she could say for 100% that that person would never commit an offence again. In most cases as i'm sure you are aware they are in complete denial, think their actions appropriate and that the rest of society are completely wrong in their condemnation of their actions.

She did however explain the 'illness' that blights older men who have never had inclinations for children at any point previous in their lives who suddenly have perverted 'feelings' and 'thoughts' for our wee yins.
That has been proved to be a medical condition and one where there is assistance available.
I would still string them up.

EXACTLY-and that's why I say hormonal treatment, and if they refuse, castrate them.

What was your Mother's job, BTW?
mortonjag 2008-09-05 14:17:02
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 5 2008, 02:07 PM) [snapback]507803[/snapback]
Main role was Senior Nursing Officer (psychiatric), but hands on. 30+ years in Argyle and Clyde Health Board for her sins.
Worked in wards all her life and continued to do so when she reached that level. Could never remain in an office.

Dealt with some very violent individuals, along with those with chronic illnesses brought on by alcoholism & drugs and of course those who abused the most vulnerable in our society.

Good sensible psychiatric nurses are like liquid gold those days.

Mortonjag's first paid job (aged 17) was as a 'nursing assistant' in the old 'locked ward' Ravenscraig.

A baptism of fire, and never to be forgotten experience, even though it only lasted for a few months!
mortonjag 2008-09-05 14:30:35 You're NOT interested in AD's intentions.

You DO want a TTGD campaign now.

You DON'T think the majority thinks Mr Rae's 'past his best'.

You regard asking legitimate questions on our massage board as 'sniping from afar'.

You want to know why I think a TTGD campaign before AD reveals his hand is a bad idea.


I'm afraid I can't quite piece that all together.

BTW regarding the 'sniping from afar', and 'message board' comments, one of Mr Rae's well known spies has been on already today.

Isn't that right Dave? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-05 14:35:40
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Sep 5 2008, 02:27 PM) [snapback]507811[/snapback]
Heh, I remember thinking the exact same thing a couple of weeks ago, slipped my mind though. I think Harding is actually a very good passer of the ball over distance, it's just his choice of when to do it that lets him down.

At his best, Harding's a pretty complete footballer. I believe his confidence and development were severely hampered under JM, and hopefully he'll improve rapidly this season, and-aye- he can drop a long ball 'on a sixpence'.
mortonjag 2008-09-05 14:42:26
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Sep 5 2008, 02:39 PM) [snapback]507823[/snapback]
Well, if I was going about throwing wee strops whenever anyone dared give me a wee bit of criticism for years of sloth, then I wouldn't have signed an extension in the first place, especially when it was only signed less than a year ago.
If he won't go, Irons should at least have the balls to chuck him out on loan to anywhere that will take him.

Last time at Palmerston against Gretna he was pretty impressive.

If he scores a winner on Sunday, few will complain.

Remember you're only as good as your last game!
mortonjag 2008-09-05 16:01:50
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 5 2008, 03:40 PM) [snapback]507847[/snapback]
I've no personal grievance against you, Moronjag. I just think you're an auld fud, and like most auld fuds you're a sourpuss(y) and prone to malevolent and festering discharges on an all-too-regular basis. And those discharges do no good to anyone.

BUT - you still appear to persist in the delusion that you are the admired standardbearer of a large band of Morton fans who will storm the ramparts of Cappielow's main stand and overthrow the perceived misanthropes who, you say, are dragging the club down through ineptitude.

You're not. You're an old fud who agitates a small audience on a low-circulation noticeboard. The world will keep on turning, at Cappielow and elsewhere, without any regard to your bluster. Big fish (in terms of volume), small pool.

I've likened you elsewhere to Captain Mainwaring from "Dad's Army". I was wrong, the above post proves you're closer to Private Fraser - all together now, "Aye, We're Doomed....... We're DOOMED.......!!!"

OK-you claim to have no personal grievance while your posts indicate otherwise which shows to decent posters that YOU are attempting significantly unsuccessfully to cause trouble. It also appears to show you up as a barefaced liar.

The children had their field day a long time ago attempting to bring down the Jag, and the Jag's still here. MUCH too late my friend! laugh.gif

Now I'll put you to the test. Without any personal stuff, do you think the fans deserve to know what the Club's/AD's intentions are?
mortonjag 2008-09-05 16:58:52 laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Spoken like a true club insider. You shouldn't let yourself get so upset, and you shouldn't answer in Big Doc style either. The less you say, the less you blow your cover. That's a tip from Fing, BTW!

YOU don't think the paying customer has any right to question the service provider. The fans are already voting with their feet. Cappielow is an uneasy place those days. Rae has run his course. We're perilously propping up the league. Without inward investment we may well be f*cked, but YOU think the Rae regime is still above scrutiny! wub.gif Wouldn't it be wonderful if all masters could enjoy your level of loyalty. You're like an obedient sheepdog!

So here's the next question, for arrogant, high and mighty, and dismissive little Ronnie, defender of the humble and meek in spirit, and bitter opponent of perceived arrogance and haughtiness. laugh.gif

You claim not to be a liar. GOOD! I remain to be convinced!

Please confirm that you are in no way connected with Greenock Morton, except as a bona fide fan.

mortonjag 2008-09-05 17:00:17
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Sep 5 2008, 04:55 PM) [snapback]507889[/snapback]
spot on ron number, some people forget that this club is not owned by the fans but by dougie rae, and he is well within his rights to do whatever he wants with the club and how it is run.

Are you speaking to yourself?
mortonjag 2008-09-05 17:17:09
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 5 2008, 05:03 PM) [snapback]507900[/snapback]
no

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I think I understand!!!

You still haven't replied to my original p.m., BTW! smile.gif

Hey Bryan-while I'm on, do YOU think the fans have a right to expect some sort of statement of intent at this stage. I'm thinking in particular of the fact that-unless I'm mistaken- the Trust didn't get a reply from the letter it says it sent to Mr Donald. That, after all was to a (now) director, from the largest minority shareholder. I can't believe Mr Donald would treat the Trust with such apparent scant regard.

Funnily enough, I was thinking that Mortonjag may be extremely unpopular with the Trust committee at the moment-for asking pertinent questions.

Do you think a member of the Trust committee would stoop to the level of assuming an alibi in order to wantonly attack Mortonjag. I'm not asking you to divulge any confidences. A simple HONEST 'yes', or 'no', would be fine! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-05 17:27:37
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Sep 5 2008, 05:13 PM) [snapback]507906[/snapback]
I must admit, I do love the idea that you either fully support Mortonjag or you're a club insider laugh.gif

Your mind really does work in a special way.

I have a very special mind! laugh.gif

C'mon Stevie boy-yesterday you were praising me for my post on Dougie Rae's tenure. Give me credit for some intelligence. I can spot a 'phoney' a mile off!

Our friend Ron Number appeared a couple of weeks back with the sole purpose of discrediting Mortonjag. He's already been banned by Bryan for abusive posting, and Edinton has confirmed that 'he's on a shoogly peg' and that he agrees that Ronnie boy's raison d'etre is to attack ONE poster.

Forget personalities for a minute. Given that you-with many others-feel that the Rae regime has taken us as far as possible, and given that Mr Donald has finally been confirmed as a director, don't you think that the fans have a right to some kind of guidance as to the Club's/AD's plans, or do you agree with the poster in question that Rae is entitled to blunder on regardless?
mortonjag 2008-09-05 17:29:43
QUOTE(cmonaton @ Sep 5 2008, 05:23 PM) [snapback]507914[/snapback]
his last post was 4 25 he'll be away for the weekend now.

Thank you! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-05 18:45:30
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Sep 5 2008, 05:42 PM) [snapback]507922[/snapback]
It's a toughie this. Officially, they don't need to say anything, as many people have already stated and I'm sure that you're aware, and I kinda agree with that thinking. If the club, or Dougles Rae, or Alistair Donald, or anyone else for that matter, comes out and states that they may have intentions towards the club changing hands and then it fails to materialise, it would leave many supporters disappointed, and some would even slate the club for going public on such matters before they were concluded. The Chairman does have previous in this field, if you rembember the shenanigans surrounding the signings of David Hagan and Martin Hardie .

If discussions do happen to be taking place in relation to Mr Donald taking a more 'active role' in the club, shall we say, then I for one would be glad that these talks would be done in private. If any such move was completed, or close to completion, then and only then would it be sensible to make any plans for the future public IMHO.

I respect what you say, and in very general terms agree. I don't expect either AD or Mr Rae to publicise details of private arrangements or agreements between them either. What concerns me-and it's quite simple-is that the Club appears to be stagnating-perhaps even going backwards while having on the Board of Directors a mega wealthy man. So long as the fans are treated as 'chattels' (and I believe that's not unfair to suggest), by the present regime, and so long as our poor performances continue, more and more will drift away, confidence in the status quo will be further eroded, and we will just go from bad to worse. It's against that backdrop that I believe it would be in the interest of ALL if some kind of statement of intent could be forthcoming.

Indeed we have no right as fans to demand anything, and in return, Mr Rae has no right to expect us to keep paying through his turnstyles, let alone 'bring a friend' with us.

I have previously suggested that the fans deserve some guidance regarding the Club's vision of the way forward. In return for openness and a fostering of togetherness, the Club could reasonably expect a reversal of the currently alarming loss of loyalty.

QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 5 2008, 05:43 PM) [snapback]507923[/snapback]
im sure if Mr Donald invests he will release a statement.

Trust committee will meet you and a friend anytime we have no grudge smile.gif and none are ron wink.gif

I'm reassured to hear that. I was not thinking of Ron as a potential Trust Committee member.
mortonjag 2008-09-05 19:47:23
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Sep 5 2008, 06:06 PM) [snapback]507936[/snapback]
Not correct, and begs the question-who the f*ck do you think you are? You present yourself as an 'authority' while hiding behind what you THINK is anonymity. Mabawsa and Shimmin tried that too! rolleyes.gif

What I DO know (among other things) is that your head is well impacted in your voluminous arse when it comes to your beloved Trust.

You've objected to, and resented every legitimate question that's been asked of the Trust, while you pontificate about its finances, the importance of shares, the youth policy, and the FANS HAVING A STRONG VOICE. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Don't make me vomit-you claim that strong voice is the Trust --who can't get an answer to a simple question after two months. rolleyes.gif You claim it's 'time for change' and that the 'fans need to be heard'. AYE RIGHT, but you don't like it when this fan speaks out against your cosy wee sinecure infected sewing bee-do you?

Care to identify yourself, or do you want me to do it? smartass.gif
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Temper temper, don,t go throwing all your toys out of the pram at once like a spoilt child.

I know who you rae,(?) oops spelling mistake meant to say are(?) What next, I know where you you live and I´m going to send a couple of heavies round to pay you a visit! unsure.gif
Your not *careful, or I'll close down the Internet* in disguies or a pal of his by any chance? that,s how he used to threaten anyone who stood up to him. Your just an old bully.

What next, I know who you are (?) I know where you live and I´m going to pay you a visit with my Dr Shipman bag of lotions and potions and put a stop to this insubordination once and for all with a Shipmanjag in the arse.

Bring it on Shipman, remember raw meat I was brought up on raw meat and you wont bully me off this board.

When it comes to Morton you,ve never done anything positive. Are you sure your not a pal of Hugh Scotts?
You could always start the Glasgow Morton Supporters Club. Or If you dislike the Rae,s so much why don,t you start a boycott to get rid of them. Get off of "your voluminous arse"and do something, anything positive instead of carping from the sidelines.
But unlike others ,who your quick to criticise, you,ve never created anything in your life with regard to Morton.
A lot easier to sit at your keyboard and criticise rather than try to do something positive yourself.

Take a risk MJ go out on a limb for once. Try creating something, anything for Morton fans. I promise not to laugh when you fail, honest. laugh.gif I might even support you if it,s something positive.
Or are you going to sit behind your keyboard and rubbish everybody elses attempts and try your best to put down the Trust, the Rae,s or anybody elses attempts for that matter.

Oops there,s that Dr Shipman streak in you again. Why help the old codger Rae when you can try an arrogant Godlike Shipmanjag in the arse to get rid of him.

I read somewhere in one of your other posts that it,s your belief that Alistair Donald is just waiting to take over Morton? I nearly choked in my raw meat at that great pronouncement. If Alistair Donald has any sense he will have run a mile after seeing all the bile you brought up about him on this messageboard.

Doctor doctor, could it be that instead of assisting, as a good doctor would, to help the goose lay the golden egg you,ve just helped kill it off. Ah its that Shipman factor again oops.gif

Come on Shipman, get off "your voluminous arse and do something positive for a change, honest I wont laugh when you fail.

The simple fact Measles is that for whatever reason, and like only a few others now, you have set out your stall. You don't like Mortonjag asking questions because those questions HURT YOU. That automatically identifies you-if not specifically-at least as one with a vested interest in the status quo-be that relative to the Club, or in your case, the Trust.

As a result you choose to attack Mortonjag personally! Mortonjag responds in equal measure, but never initiates unprovoked personal attacks.

Your comments are not very pleasant, and I don't believe they cut much ice with the other posters.

Pointless allusions to Shipman, and irrelevant challenges to 'do something' are merely a smokescreen, as are your utterly risible jibberings about 'bullying'.

If you haven't the balls to identify yourself, that's fine by me. Others will draw their own conclusions about your worth and credibility.

mortonjag 2008-09-05 19:59:11
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 5 2008, 07:29 PM) [snapback]507988[/snapback]
And is the purpose of mutual personal abuse to distract our focus from serious issues at Cappielow ?

There is nothing mutual about it Newt!

In Mortonjag's case it is inevitably reciprocal.

Mortonjag is a stubborn old fart. Mortonjag acknowledges that!

Mortonjag's Daddy taught him this:

'Never hit anybody in anger, but if somebody hits you, hit him back HARDER'.

Mortonjag's Daddy was a wise man.

....and so Newt, if the unwarranted and unprovoked personal abuse keeps coming, Mortonjag will continue to do what his Daddy told him.
mortonjag 2008-09-05 20:08:17
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Sep 5 2008, 08:00 PM) [snapback]508030[/snapback]
come on newton, make yer mind up smile.gif

and thank goodness that mortonjag eschews personal abuse

Don't be facile Alistair. If anybody deserves personal abuse from Mortonjag, it's your good self for your incessantly pointless digs and jibes, a very few of which have made Mortonjag smile.

Alistair-I'd never personally abuse you-well maybe if you were bending over naked before my throbbing organ-but really you're quite a gentle soul-and I like you.

Uninvited personal abuse from anonymous nobodies with hidden agendas is quite different as you very well understand.

Don't forget your pill tonight-the orange one with the little black stripe! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-05 20:16:50
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 5 2008, 03:17 PM) [snapback]507837[/snapback]
He's GONE!!!!!! I've just got back and he's not here. The cleaners must have let him out. b*****ds.

I suspect he's still in there-have you checked everywhere-he's quite good at hiding sometimes.
mortonjag 2008-09-05 20:25:49

QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Sep 5 2008, 05:49 PM) [snapback]507929[/snapback]
Welcome to Cappielow Chris. Typical comment from our moany-faced supporters I'm afraid. No doubt this was one of the supporters who wanted DI/DC to sign you during pre-season. blink.gif

ANUS-welcome back!

QUOTE(Deego @ Sep 5 2008, 06:32 PM) [snapback]507946[/snapback]
f*** OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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QUOTE(ShimminTon @ Sep 5 2008, 08:04 PM) [snapback]508035[/snapback]
Well said. rolleyes.gif

HA-turkeykeech and anus are mates-well whoever would have guessed! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

QUOTE(Deego @ Sep 5 2008, 08:06 PM) [snapback]508037[/snapback]
Because he's an absolute f***ing bellend and not welcome on my messageboard.

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mortonjag 2008-09-05 20:31:16
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Sep 5 2008, 08:11 PM) [snapback]508045[/snapback]
So ?
Are you going to do something positive then Or carry on posting about how great you are ?

Stupid question !! dry.gif

I'm going to do something positive. I'm going to invite you to take a long walk off a short pier.

It will probably take you three hours to understand what that means, by which time the Monkey and the Jag will be safely tucked up in bed! laugh.gif


PS.

Why did the chicken cross the road?

If you don't know, I'll tell you tomorrow.
mortonjag 2008-09-05 20:36:23
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Sep 5 2008, 08:14 PM) [snapback]508050[/snapback]
ah, the two-eyes-for-an-eye approach - i thought you were more of a new testament sort of guy laugh.gif

still can't figure out how this philosophy might lead to escalation though huh.gif

Take the little pill Alistair-orange with black stripe-remember.

Oh and your inability to understand the escalation-probably just that Mortonjag is a keen angler.
mortonjag 2008-09-05 20:39:22
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Sep 5 2008, 08:29 PM) [snapback]508066[/snapback]
thanks for thinking of me, although i thought you 'played' guitar tongue.gif
and don't you forget yours biggrin.gif

(btw, i thought was a special forum for all this puerile tosh unsure.gif)

Nope Alistair-you're in the right place!
mortonjag 2008-09-05 20:43:21
QUOTE(Ghost @ Sep 5 2008, 08:32 PM) [snapback]508070[/snapback]

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mortonjag 2008-09-05 20:47:06
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Sep 5 2008, 08:42 PM) [snapback]508074[/snapback]
will the board will be a quieter place? smile.gif

Which board Alistair-have YOU taken that pill yet! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-05 20:57:05
QUOTE(ShimminTon @ Sep 5 2008, 08:50 PM) [snapback]508078[/snapback]
Just ignore him SpotTon, He wasn't a Doctor btw.

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mortonjag 2008-09-05 21:01:03
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Sep 5 2008, 08:53 PM) [snapback]508079[/snapback]
no, you 'seem' to have an inability to understand my 'inability', pythagoras

Don't get carried away with yourself Euclid. Mortonjag knows when you're being knotty!

PLEASE take your pill-we don't want a repeat of last time-do we? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-05 21:03:46
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Sep 5 2008, 09:01 PM) [snapback]508085[/snapback]
So ? are you going to do something positive or carry on posting about how great you are ?


I'm going to do something positive. I'm going to invite you to take a long walk off a short pier.

It will probably take you three hours to understand what that means, by which time the Monkey and the Jag will be safely tucked up in bed! laugh.gif


PS.

Why did the chicken cross the road?

If you don't know, I'll tell you tomorrow.
mortonjag 2008-09-05 21:09:52
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Sep 5 2008, 08:59 PM) [snapback]508083[/snapback]
was that for me?

either way, he's got such an unorthodox bedside manner, although he does seem to rely on pills rather too much biggrin.gif

Is that a professional opinion Alistair-I also do counselling if you'd prefer!

I have many post graduate qualifications in addition to my M.A., M.B., Ch.B.

I can even mow the grass-though I confess-not with the skill of a professional grass mower, though I'd imagine it's something you'd get good at very quickly. More of a task that a skill don't you think?
mortonjag 2008-09-05 21:22:02
QUOTE(TrumpingTon @ Sep 5 2008, 09:15 PM) [snapback]508092[/snapback]
ok, i've taken all the pills just like you said

what now?

Dial 999-you were only supposed to take the orange one with the little black stripe! ohmy.gif

Alistair......are you still with us?
mortonjag 2008-09-05 21:27:25
QUOTE(leyTON @ Sep 5 2008, 07:34 PM) [snapback]507998[/snapback]
whats their punishment, kidney punch?

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Just a gentle jag in their little pink botties-very civilised!
mortonjag 2008-09-05 21:32:15 He WASN'T struck by a bus-he dived in front of the bloody thing and if he'd been killed, the poor bus driver would have endured immeasurable torment.

What was the purpose of the Police release of footage?

mortonjag 2008-09-05 21:35:50
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 5 2008, 09:10 PM) [snapback]508091[/snapback]
That's all fine and well, but the tax system proposed has too many loopholes and isn't adequate.
Or are we exchanging fiscal farce in return for political gain?
O aye, this is an SNP policy... rolleyes.gif

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Now, now-you're getting knotty again. I think I'll probably agree with you if you could repeat that in plain English! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-05 21:39:56 ALISTAIR...............................speak to me..........are you dead..........OH DEAR-I shall miss you.


Not a lot mind.
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mortonjag 2008-09-06 08:15:45
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Sep 5 2008, 11:25 PM) [snapback]508129[/snapback]
Can you tell me why two of my posts were removed from the "Is it Really Common Knowledge" thread?

For the attention of Measles!


Can you tell me what the posts said? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-06 08:24:25
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Sep 6 2008, 02:45 AM) [snapback]508148[/snapback]
Away and f*** yourself.

Any grievances I have is f*** all to do with Smith - I wish him all the best and will be right behind him as I am with every Morton player on match day, Blufferson included. dry.gif

Bottom line is we've been led up the garden path with regards to promises of a small, quality squad. The reality is we've a smaller squad of similar or even LESS quality than last year.

I was on such a high after the manner in which we finished last season. Now, 3 months later, my spirits have hit rock bottom.

It's a sad time to be a Morton fan, the biggest underachievers in Scottish football for the past two decades.
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That's your opinion and my opinion Sir, but don't forget this little massage board is totally unrepresentative of the majority of REAL Morton fans, who in ever increasing numbers pack Cappielow to the seams every other week, think Dougie Rae's the best thing since sliced bread, trust the Trust to conquer all demons, and believe Nicola Sturgeon's a female..
mortonjag 2008-09-06 08:28:55
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 6 2008, 04:01 AM) [snapback]508170[/snapback]
"We are not bottom of the First Division because we have been playing badly - we just haven't had the breaks."

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11 goals conceded in 5 matches ... sounds like poor play to me.

http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/displa...e_in_bother.php

Sounds like the story of/excuse for Kieran's whole career.

Anyway-here's hoping he turns it around tomorrow.
mortonjag 2008-09-06 08:43:43
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Sep 5 2008, 09:44 PM) [snapback]508102[/snapback]
Oh, hark at her!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

I just wanted to reassure you Tony boy -and yer wee gardener pal- that Mortonjag's qualifications are authentic. Perhaps you could pass that on to the rest of Mr Rae's employees! wub.gif

QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 5 2008, 10:32 PM) [snapback]508116[/snapback]
Gidday Ma Maws,

Is mortonjag really a lady ?

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QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Sep 5 2008, 10:59 PM) [snapback]508122[/snapback]
So what,s it to be big mouth...either put up or shut up. Or do you and the monkey not have a pair of balls between you. Ever since you joined this message board you,ve been all mouth and no action.

I,ll challenge you again and again, either put up or shut up . Let,s see you do something positive for a change, anything. Go on prove me wrong.
Problem is I just don,t think you have it in you, good at having a go at everybody else but a real useless lump when it comes to actually getting off "your voluminous arse" and doing something positive.
Your a disgrace, you don,t deserve to inhabit this board among lot,s of good Morton supporters who have done their damnest to support the club through thick and thin.

I,ll say it again, put up or shut up! Or are you really all mouth and no action.

Measles has really become quite agitated. An early sign of rabies perhaps?

QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Sep 5 2008, 11:13 PM) [snapback]508127[/snapback]
There is no boycott at Cappielow, nobody is standing in the car park shouting abuse at the current owners or waiting until 03:15 to go into the games as a protest.
Your listening too much to "all mouth and no action" Shipman.

People are not going to games because the performances on the park are really dire. If Davey Irons could only get it right on the park people would come back to Cappielow. The credit crunch is not helping matters either.

So it's got NOTHING to do with Mortonjag's posts! laugh.gif

QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 6 2008, 04:06 AM) [snapback]508172[/snapback]
was mortonjag a sailor, then ?

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mortonjag 2008-09-06 08:50:20
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 6 2008, 08:30 AM) [snapback]508180[/snapback]
... to the rafters please

Rafter is a bananagram of farter.

'Seams', Newt-there's been many a stitch up at Cappielow! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-06 08:52:57
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 6 2008, 08:28 AM) [snapback]508178[/snapback]
... that mortonjag is supreme and that is no dream ?

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... that mortonjag is the best because he is better than the rest ?

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... that mortonjag is a pain without any gain ?

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...that mortonjag is getting bust for questioning the Trust?
mortonjag 2008-09-06 08:59:44
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 6 2008, 08:53 AM) [snapback]508184[/snapback]
..gives us something to talk about I guess smile.gif

I'd rather discuss something of substance. Port ton is correct in his assessment. For the poor driver's sake I'm glad he survived.
mortonjag 2008-09-06 09:07:07
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 6 2008, 03:21 AM) [snapback]508152[/snapback]
From: Angela Kenis
Abidjan Cote d'ivoire
West Africa .


My Dear mortonjag,

Please do reply me through by PM and also send me your direct E-mail to reach you.

It is my pleasure to contact you for a business venture which I intend to establish in your country. Though I have not met with you before, I read your information with many interest.

I believe, one has to risk confiding in succeedful man sometimes in life.

There is this huge amount of eight million U.S dollars ($8,000,000.00) which my late Father kept for me with a Fiduciary Fund Holder in Abidjan before he was assasinated by the Rebels persons during this war in Cote d'ivoire.

Now I have decided to invest these money in your country for security and political reasons. mortonjag,I want you to help me claim and retrieve this fund from the Fiduciary Fund Holders and transfer it into your personal account in your country for investment purposes on these areas:

1) A Football Club
2) The Transport Industry
3) Five Star Hotel
4) Real Estate Management
5) Confectionery Manufacturer

If you can be of an assistance to me I will be pleased to offer to you 15% of the total fund for your assistance to me. Please reply to me through my private email for more details.

I await your soonest respose.
Respectfully yours,
Miss Angela.



I've copied and pasted this into an e-mail to Greenock Morton.

I think we can safely assume that the matter is now closed.
mortonjag 2008-09-06 10:25:23
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 6 2008, 09:38 AM) [snapback]508196[/snapback]
Not suggesting that the downturns in his career have been all his doing, are you?

WOOD EYE
mortonjag 2008-09-06 10:28:09
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Sep 6 2008, 09:56 AM) [snapback]508199[/snapback]
once again, no answers to the questions asked.

First PA of the day! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-06 10:35:43
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 6 2008, 09:02 AM) [snapback]508187[/snapback]
Ok...you are right.
Stop talking about it then happy.gif

I'm not! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-06 11:28:21
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 6 2008, 11:03 AM) [snapback]508214[/snapback]
Do you watch Countdown much? Richard Whiteley will be turning in his grave at the thought of this spelling disaster. rolleyes.gif

I never missed Countdown when 'Whiters' was the boss. After he died it went downhill.
mortonjag 2008-09-06 11:30:18
QUOTE(Cawston @ Sep 6 2008, 11:11 AM) [snapback]508218[/snapback]
Thing is, no-one really cares.

It amazes me that after all this time there are still people out there willing to supply the attention Jaggie so clearly craves.

If he annoys you so much don't read his stuff, he'll vanish from your life even quicker than vanishes from this board in the wake of a good result.

Myth and PA No. 2.
mortonjag 2008-09-06 11:33:33
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Sep 6 2008, 11:23 AM) [snapback]508223[/snapback]
I remember last season after the StJ game up there when Weatherson scored the equaliser and I started a thread about , goal aside was he doing enough ?

Still have the scars to prove it .

Agree with JonaTon , the only problem Peter has is with himself , remember that inane comment from McInally about if Weatherson was fit he'd be playing at a higher level !! If he was bored then what was the security of a 3 year deal going to do .

I honestly think that deal sums up why we haven't progressed the way we should have .

Peter's concentration span stretches 2 or 3 games and no coach can change that mentality . The biggest joke is have to rely on this guy whenever we get in the smelly stuff , which I guess suits Weatherson as he is allowed to be unfit and uninterested .

Small squad of quality anyone ......

I'm still puzzled about who authorised the wage hikes and long contracts for existing players which appear to have eroded DI's 'budget' so much.
mortonjag 2008-09-06 11:41:32
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 6 2008, 11:11 AM) [snapback]508217[/snapback]
Extreeeeeeeeeeeemly unlikely.

If there was no evidence to prove his innocence then equally there would be no evidence to prove his guilt, which would of course be required to secure a manslaughter conviction.

Plus, even without CCTV evidence they could prove quite easily that he hit the side of the bus and not the front of it, confirming that the driver was not to blame.

If only that were true!

It seems like common sense, but there would be countless measurements to establish probable speed, the driver would be breathalysed, tyres, brakes etc., checked, and the driver would be made to feel like the culprit irrespective of innocence.

Remember the crazy and impractical rule that you ALWAYS have to be able to stop in time to avoid an accident, and pedestrians ALWAYS have priority over vehicles. In theory you're supposed to drive along fully expecting some deranged brat to catapult himself into your path.
mortonjag 2008-09-08 07:09:07
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Sep 6 2008, 12:48 PM) [snapback]508258[/snapback]
Thanks to everyone for their advice and assistance in correcting the self inflicted problem dry.gif
As for Mj ....blah blah blah. I,ll say it again, put up or shut up! Or are you really all mouth and no action.

No Measles, that's Jim McColl.

QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 6 2008, 08:50 PM) [snapback]508425[/snapback]
Cause you spend most of your day licking your own baws.

or Mr Rae's arse?
mortonjag 2008-09-08 07:12:21
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Sep 6 2008, 12:33 PM) [snapback]508245[/snapback]
blah blah blah................your daddy raised an all talk no action bag of wind. Your full of hot air and nothing else.
I,ll challenge you again and again, either put up or shut up .

No, no Measles-you misunderstand-mortonjag is a mere fan who entrusts the important things to important people like Jim McColl.
mortonjag 2008-09-08 07:28:58
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Sep 7 2008, 12:48 PM) [snapback]508634[/snapback]
Barbarossa, I,m certainly not out to deflect attention at all. Far from it, I,m out to bring to everyones attention the fact that MJ is all mouth a no action.
I want him to put up or shut up. But he hides behind his computer and doesn,t get his hands dirty.

But he takes great joy in criticising everyone else. I know I should ignore him but it,s not in my nature.

So my challenge to him is to put up or shut up, is he a man or a mouse. Get him to do something positive for the supporters. Simple suggestion, form the Glasgow Morton Supporters Club. Get people to join run a bus to the games from Glasgow . Anything in fact that helps Morton supporters. But as I said he,s all hot air. All talk and no action but great at criticising everyones else,s efforts.

Your problem from the word go son has been that mortonjag dared to criticise your big daddy Trust.




QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 7 2008, 01:12 PM) [snapback]508644[/snapback]
You must be one of the only ones of all the posters registered on this board who doesn't know who he is.
Jim is a media tart and has had his coupon emblazoned many a time in the local press and the programme.

Why do people need to use their own names? Its a f***ing messageboard not a court of law.

Your posts are now in danger of descending into madness. They are getting more frantic with each passing one.

Edited to add: I really, really hope you don't have anything to do with the trust.

I diagnosed early rabies a day or so back-there is no cure for rabies.

QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Sep 7 2008, 01:14 PM) [snapback]508645[/snapback]
No problem with him criticising what goes on at the club, we all do, it,s a disaster at times. I have no problem with free speech either, we are all entitled to our opinions.
But why criticise and do his best to demean anyone who has the cheek to actually defend the club. It,s not the logical argument he puts across but the personal attacks he makes against people, like he,s wiping s*** off his shoe.

He,s a thoroughly disagreeable, arrogant person who I,ll say again is full of hot air and has done nothing for the club or it,s supporters.
And while he continues to talk down to people I will continue to talk back to him and challenge him to do something positive for a change.

Oh, and before I forget my congratulations to your mate.

That's one of your best yet Measles. Mortonjag never personally attacked you, but as always has been forced to defend his corner.

From day one you resented questions being asked of the Trust, and in particular of certain Trust Board members.

It's dawning on other reasonable posters that YOU are the one with the agenda-an unreasonable, knee jerking and spitefully hurt agenda, reminiscent of a spoilt brat deprived of a sweetie.

You call mortonjag names, accuse mortonjag of being 'all mouth' and plaster your patent jealousy of mortonjag's superiority over your every post, and each time you do, mortonjag wonders what you're trying to hide. dry.gif

mortonjag 2008-09-08 07:45:00
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Sep 7 2008, 09:08 PM) [snapback]508848[/snapback]
He's a Doctor you know!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

That is correct Tony-not somebody who re-assured everybody about Alistair Donald being a director etc., AS AN EX CIVIL SERVANT. thumbup2.gif thumbup2.gif

Let's face it that was a pretty certain clue you'd be wrong or lying-AS YOU WERE! thumbdown.gif

What is it with you and doctors-are you just an example of the all too common, little nobody, 'full fish supper on the shoulder' creep, or did some Quack treat your scrotal pruritus with nitric acid? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 07:50:54
QUOTE(Cawston @ Sep 6 2008, 11:53 AM) [snapback]508238[/snapback]
Don't see a prediction thread anywhere else....so...

I'll go QoS 1 - Ton 2

This is the week we turn the corner.

Good morning Cawstick-I'd just like to inform you that I had already predicted a victory for the Mighty Ton, AND that the Airdrie game would probably be our nadir this seaason-LONG before that post.

....AND long before you posted this utter bollocks:


Thing is, no-one really cares.

It amazes me that after all this time there are still people out there willing to supply the attention Jaggie so clearly craves.

If he annoys you so much don't read his stuff, he'll vanish from your life even quicker than vanishes from this board in the wake of a good result.



Let's just get one thing clear-Mortonjag is a TON supporter through and through. I THOROUGHLY enjoyed yesterday afternoon's victory, particularly McGuffie's superbly taken goal. What did you think of it?
mortonjag 2008-09-08 08:06:39 I was told the Tilly was desperate for any material it could get. It could easily have edited IrnBru's letter with his permission.

Nope folks-the Tilly wouldn't publish such an overt criticism of Mr Rae.

Not quite time for that yet!

So that's IrnBru and Mortonbug had their letters knocked back.

Bad show Tilly.

And well done to those two posters, for TRYING to criticise the establishment.
mortonjag 2008-09-08 08:09:31 I thought young Smith looked pretty solid at left back yesterday.

I though Jimbo looked lost again.
mortonjag 2008-09-08 08:30:19 If the players really read this, I'd just like them to know that they are even dafter than mortonjag thought.

Oh-and if you do-aye that Jenkins bloke was the only one of you yesterday who dared to run at the Queens defence, so I say-well done!
mortonjag 2008-09-08 08:46:03 McGuffie was my MOTM. He made Wakey's goal, scored a peach, and 'ghosted' all over the place. So often Ryan's the guy who's back there putting in a vital tackle, or forward making a telling header.Time for some to get off his back.

Smith impressed me well.

I thought the defence and midfield coped pretty comfortably, but the downside was that we again created absolutely ZILCH from midfield or wings. It was great to win, but again a dour encounter.

Stevie Masterton's definitely going to have to brush up his act to be worth a place-I'd have Jamie Stevenson in there any day TBH!

I thought Irons took an eternity to sub him with Jenks, and it immediately made a difference with the latter trying to bring Jimbo into a game where he'd looked lost.

Thought Cuthbert had little to do and looked comfy.

Now-a question-when our midfield is so lacking in creative ideas, why is Alex Walker still used as general dogsbody!

Anyway the bookies had us 3-1 against! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 09:23:49
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 8 2008, 09:05 AM) [snapback]509018[/snapback]
I agree but when Jenkins came on he brought him far more into the game.

Morton fans last saw Smith for the St Mirren game when he had played the full 90 minutes in about 6 games in eight days. I think he will be a very good signing for us.

I've made that very point in the post match thread, and I believe Jenkins should have been on after the interval.
mortonjag 2008-09-08 09:27:02 I actually thought Wakey was arguing with the officious wee linesman that the Queens' boy didn't deserve a booking.
mortonjag 2008-09-08 09:28:35
QUOTE(tonfromaffar @ Sep 7 2008, 08:02 PM) [snapback]508812[/snapback]
DI's budget wasn't crippled by massive wage hikes it was crippled by brining in Gretna cast offs at there current contract rates that old brooks was paying them and that includes irons and collins that is where the clubs money has gone and i am sorry to have to say this but none of them have been a sensation so far overpaid premier rejects.

Do you have the official figures?
mortonjag 2008-09-08 09:31:28 Mortonjag is a handy plumber.
mortonjag 2008-09-08 09:33:59
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Sep 7 2008, 08:35 AM) [snapback]508576[/snapback]
Maybe you and your bumchum moronjag should give up posting for one day (per week) initially, and decrease it from there.

That'll save a f***in lot of energy (and hot air) !

Beermonkey in pleasant mode! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 09:43:56
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 6 2008, 01:28 PM) [snapback]508282[/snapback]
I have first hand experience of this, sadly, and based on that I can tell you that that wild and sweeping assumption is completely wrong.

Not long after I passed my test a young kid about 5 ran right out in front of me and I knocked him down (funnily enough it was just after a Ton game at Cappielow). There was absolutely nothing I could have done to avoid it, in fact if I hadn't reacted as quickly as I did it could have been a lot worse (the kid was rushed to hospital and although quite badly injured fortunately he survived and went on to make a full recovery). Simple_Ton was a passenger, he'll back me up.

The police of course breathalised me and the brakes and tyres on the car were thoroughly checked, and witness statements were taken. Never once though did that make me feel like the culprit, quite the opposite in fact I welcomed it as I saw it as giving them more evidence towards proving my innocence. The police were professional in their investigation and didn't pre-presume any guilt or innocence in my part, and I was treated with dignity, courtesy and respect.

No charges were ever brought against me.

I'm glad of that. Personal experiences are enlightening but don't alter the general rule. Indeed it's naive and perhaps slightly arrogant to argue the general from the particular!

For many years I performed medical examinations for lawyers acting for insurance companies in road accident claims. I've interviewed countless folk with first hand experience of the immediate aftermath of accidents, and let me assure you that the innocent are often left feeling extremely abused. Bear in mind that good eye witnesses are not available at every incident, and it's NOT uncommon either, for false witnesses to appear to support a claim.
mortonjag 2008-09-08 10:48:11
QUOTE(longboat @ Sep 8 2008, 09:56 AM) [snapback]509028[/snapback]
From the BBC...
"For Morton's second, Brian Wake cut the ball inside for Erik Paartalu, who set up McGuffie in space for a shot which flew past goalkeeper Bell once again"

If the midfield did zilch why do they keep scoring?

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Well you can take the BBC's interpretation of ONE incident if you wish!

I was merely highlighting the total absence of 'creativity' from midfield, and the lack of any effective wing play.

mortonjag 2008-09-08 10:49:57
QUOTE(Cawston @ Sep 8 2008, 09:59 AM) [snapback]509031[/snapback]
I'm not sure what point your making but thank you kindly for the information!
Hahaha...so much resentment burning through that post. laugh.gif

Sorry to drag you on here after a win Jaggie...normal service can be resumed next time and we won't say another word about it wink.gif

Did you enjoy the game Cawstick? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 10:53:59
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Sep 8 2008, 10:20 AM) [snapback]509036[/snapback]
Protect your tool? blink.gif tongue.gif

Always protect your tool Thrax-ESPECIALLY if you're planning to jump in front of a bus! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 10:59:27 I was discussing LIT with an experienced Local Authority accountant at the weekend. He reckons it's almost as unworkable as the Poll Tax, and doesn't have a hope of being implemented.

Please note-DO NOT SHOOT THE MESSENGER! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 11:05:39
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Sep 8 2008, 11:03 AM) [snapback]509045[/snapback]
So spotty dug what do you think of the youth set up ? Why did you let yourself get manipulated by Doggie Rae as the figurehead of a shambolic set up .

Go and bury yourself with your next bone from your master .

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mortonjag 2008-09-08 12:03:57
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Sep 8 2008, 11:08 AM) [snapback]509047[/snapback]
What a greetin faced wee boy you are! What moron would just walk upto the gate on Saturday and expect to see someone about shares he wishes to purchase, without prior appointment. Do you have any other shares? Did you just stroll upto their head office at the weekend and expect someone to take your form and cash from you too.

Oh indeed-yet another example of resentment of criticism of an organisation that makes Steptoe and Son look like a hive of industry!

Why are you calling a genuine poster and fellow fan 'a greetin' faced wee boy' and a 'moron'? What does that say about YOU?

QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Sep 8 2008, 11:44 AM) [snapback]509055[/snapback]
Weegieton - I also work Mon-Fri (as do the majority of office staff at Cappielow I'm sure). I booked hospitality earlier in the season, not by turning up at the gate on a Saturday, but by contacting Morton during the week by phone.

I just can't get my head round theses morons who just turn up out the blue and expect the red carpet treatment.....think it thru!

The majority of office staff at Cappielow-that's an interesting term. Is it a really big office with lots of line managers and stuff? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 12:38:36
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 8 2008, 12:25 PM) [snapback]509068[/snapback]
Cappielow resembles the Marie Celeste many days.

mortonjag 2008-09-08 12:58:59
QUOTE(suda @ Sep 8 2008, 12:44 PM) [snapback]509072[/snapback]
Russell played wide right yesterday and had an excellent game putting several good balls in. I'm sure our 1st goal came from a cross from his wing. Walker was solid at right back and has never been a creative force so he's doing a valued job where he is. Stick to criticizing the chairman that's what your good at.

Thank you for that rare compliment!


Now let's see what you said.

We just let Newby go-correct? That leaves us with two strikers (I'd argue for Spoonsy too, but he wasn't used yesterday till the last few minutes).

So you're telling me that Iain Russell's now our right winger who will supply wonderful crosses all day to the strikers-sorry lone striker.

All you are doing is portraying a poor compromise as an active solution-which it plainly is not.

How often has Walker been played in an attacking midfield role (his natural position) in his whole time at Cappielow? Of course he's never been a creative force, and of course he could be, and a damned sight more creative than Masty or Pantaloons for starters. Indeed he looked quite solid at right back, but he's NOT a right back, and a tricky left winger will expose that.

SO-just another slag the Jag post Suda.

Why don't you stick to slagging the Jag?

That's what you're good at! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 13:05:10
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 8 2008, 12:40 PM) [snapback]509070[/snapback]
Common error, including water charges Glasgow band E £1,946.43 , East Renfrewshire £1840.09.

About a 5% difference.

What drives people out of Glasgow is the education system.

Inter alia!
mortonjag 2008-09-08 13:07:12
QUOTE(El gofer @ Sep 8 2008, 02:00 AM) [snapback]508968[/snapback]
Havin a rare wee night.

Bought some Scottish ale from Tescos...

punk ipa, broughton border gold, cally 80-, Joker Premium Pale Ale from William Bros Brewing Co. in Alloa + another from broughton ales that wisnae too good. 7 in total
Superb ales!!! Mone scots breweries!!!

Listenin to my favourites teenage fanclub, first time in a while....... Also Idlewild..... loving a lot of scottish bands like glasvegas, Lucy Baines Band and the Parkers........

Mone scots music.

Watched the end of murray nadal........... a scottish sportsman who has total believe and doesnt give a sh1t.

Mone andy murray.....!

Channel flicking and caught the last 20 mins of Braveheart. 4 ales down I recited it to my by now beleagured better half.....

Mone Scottish fullums!!!
And the ton won.....AND I'm aff the morra!!!!

MONE SCOTLAND!!!!!

If by some freakish quirk of fate superbrat wins the final, he will again be an all BRITISH hero!
mortonjag 2008-09-08 13:56:32
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 8 2008, 01:30 PM) [snapback]509089[/snapback]
Alex Walker isn't an attacking midfielder. I'd have thought someone usually so quick to point out peoples proper positions would know that. tongue.gif

Look sonny boy don't you talk to me about positions-you only know one-and it suits me fine, and Alex Walker is a natural attacking midfielder who's been wasted since JM clapped eyes on him.
QUOTE(suda @ Sep 8 2008, 01:33 PM) [snapback]509090[/snapback]
I didn't mention the strikers or in yesterday's case the lone striker I merely pointed out that the supply from wide yesterday, Russell in particular wasn't as poor as you were making out.

It doesn't matter what font you use IMO Walker is a utility player solid but not spectacular he has never given any indication he's the man for the attacking midfield role his pace alone would probably rule him out. I don't have all day to get into a boring pedantic argument with you although I would rather slag the Jag than any of the players especially after a decent performance like yesterday. So carry on point scoring if you like.

HAHAHA-the old 'I'm too busy' excuse from the guy who threw down the gauntlet! laugh.gif

So long as you add 'IMO' that's fine by me. You didn't the first time, and in any case I'm correct. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 13:59:49
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 8 2008, 01:14 PM) [snapback]509083[/snapback]
Ah the benefits of a classical education. happy.gif

High School or Academy? unsure.gif

Pishley Grammer Mr Bam! shutup.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 14:08:49 Hey ho hum- Ronnie boy nails his true colours to the Marie Celeste mast!

Mabawsa

Shimmin

Russell's Muscles

Ron Number

Mr Rae must be SO proud of you all! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 14:10:06
QUOTE(briggsTON @ Sep 8 2008, 02:06 PM) [snapback]509107[/snapback]
The draw is on Thursday afternoon.

Thank you and happy birthday old man! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 14:16:31
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 8 2008, 02:10 PM) [snapback]509113[/snapback]
hmmm, this from the man who self-righteously accused me of being abusive towards him the other day....... it's obviously a case of "don't do as I do, do as I say", eh, MJ?? dry.gif

Indeed not at all Ronnie boy-I was being-I believe- factual in my comment about a certain poster 'licking Mr Rae's botty'.

Furthermore I'm not an anonymous poster with a solitary agenda which the Mods have already spotted and acknowledged.

Just in case you're wondering to whom I'm referring Ronnie boy-it's YOU!

Would you say that's abusive or factual.

Would you be in the slightest offended if I asked what your wages are at Cappielow? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 14:19:14
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 8 2008, 02:17 PM) [snapback]509121[/snapback]
Ye - well, "Physician, Heal Thyself" - there must be SOMETHING he can do to cut down on the amount of bile he produces....... laugh.gif

That was almost witty Ronnie boy-did you get that from somebody intelligent?
mortonjag 2008-09-08 14:22:03
QUOTE(Deego @ Sep 8 2008, 02:16 PM) [snapback]509118[/snapback]

Interview with Alex Walker
in depth profile

Alex Walker signed for Morton during the close season of 2005 as an attack minded midfielder.

Thanx Deeglet! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 14:25:04
QUOTE(tonfromaffar @ Sep 8 2008, 02:10 PM) [snapback]509112[/snapback]
DI offered ryan and Jenks to the ton just before Mcinally was let go he knew that Mcinally was on his way out the door and was already pre-empted to take over as and when. good buisness sense from DI but abit nieve from DDFR to give them equall contract terms (good Lads though and will do well ).

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mortonjag 2008-09-08 14:27:40
QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Sep 8 2008, 02:25 PM) [snapback]509134[/snapback]
It's obviously wrong. Shock, horror! rolleyes.gif

He was signed as a holding/defensive midfielder and that is where he played (quite well at times) when he first joined us. He was never an attacking midfielder, and no manager in their right mind would use him as one.

Well son-maybe you're just too young to remember but one of his first games for us was at Pishley where he looked pretty impressive in his natural attacking role.
mortonjag 2008-09-08 14:33:02
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Sep 8 2008, 02:30 PM) [snapback]509141[/snapback]
The ting tings - that's not my name

No-it's beermonkey-hey monkey-do you ever listen to PROPER music? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 14:35:50
QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Sep 8 2008, 02:33 PM) [snapback]509146[/snapback]
The occasional shot from outside the box does not make his position an "attacking role".

You said you'd have Jamie Stevenson in the midfield any day. You obviously know hee-haw, you condescending t***. smile.gif

I said I'd rather have had Jamie to Masty on yesterday's performance my child.

As the previous poster indicated, Alex has been-shall we say-messed about!
mortonjag 2008-09-08 14:47:53 Ronnie boy- the quality of your posts is deteriorating badly.

You started off with vile scumbag nonsense which is clearly what you do best! smile.gif

I'm beginning to warm to you.

Good gracious, at this rate I'd imagine we'll soon be making love together! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 15:24:26
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 8 2008, 02:50 PM) [snapback]509163[/snapback]
Dream on, MoronJizz....... wetly.

That's what they all said Ronnie my darling! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 15:26:46
QUOTE(tonfromaffar @ Sep 8 2008, 02:33 PM) [snapback]509148[/snapback]
DI pre-empted the moves of Mcguffie and Jenkins as he already knew he was going to take over. They weren't playing at Gretna and if Morton signed them then He would definatly come to. And when he got there first thing he done was bring in big Eric. All these players came to the club on equal contracts to the ones they were on at Gretna plus there massive signing on fees. This is where the budget has gone

Do you have the figures?
mortonjag 2008-09-08 15:30:54
QUOTE(tonfromaffar @ Sep 8 2008, 02:58 PM) [snapback]509165[/snapback]
You realy dont have a clue what goes on at this club or any other you live in your little morton world where nothing can harm you . crying.gif

Sad very Sad

Not ANOTHER bloody insider!!!

Name, rank, and number my friend. Only then comes credibility! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 15:36:37
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 8 2008, 03:16 PM) [snapback]509174[/snapback]
Just like some on this site hide behind an alias.

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True Barbie, but I've a feeling Ronnie boy's falling in love with the Jag. His posts are becoming more tender by the minute on that Scapa clock! Soon I shall have him in my cellar! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 15:38:18
QUOTE(Alexton @ Sep 8 2008, 03:20 PM) [snapback]509177[/snapback]
At the queens vs morton game yesterday I heard one of the queens (maybe more) making a racist remark when Shimmin had the ball.
Did anybody else hear this?

I heard hunners of remarks. Could you provide a clue?
mortonjag 2008-09-08 15:39:30
QUOTE(Deego @ Sep 8 2008, 03:36 PM) [snapback]509202[/snapback]
I'm having an affair with your mother, darling. Sorry it had to be this way.

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mortonjag 2008-09-08 15:42:25
QUOTE(Deego @ Sep 8 2008, 03:40 PM) [snapback]509205[/snapback]
I told you it was over.

I shall be shagging Ronnie boy within the week I predict. I'll miss you Deeglet, but POUFFE love just wasn't your scene! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 15:44:19
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 8 2008, 03:34 PM) [snapback]509197[/snapback]
38 - 24 - 36

I love those guessing games Barbie.

I'll go....erm.....


Gillian Donaldson?? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 15:45:58
QUOTE(Deego @ Sep 8 2008, 03:43 PM) [snapback]509207[/snapback]
There's always a place in my heart for you, dangly dong. wub.gif

You are a sweet sweet boy. I hope Her Majesty treats you as gently as old jaggy did. wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 15:48:14
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Sep 8 2008, 03:45 PM) [snapback]509210[/snapback]
I would have thought having 2,000 people at your door every other saturday would have any decent businessman thinking how he might take advantage of that... mountain and Mohammed springs to mind rolleyes.gif

Mountain Mohammed-hmm-is he nice?
mortonjag 2008-09-08 18:09:26
QUOTE(SramTon @ Sep 8 2008, 05:33 PM) [snapback]509302[/snapback]
The Club have never said it is an "open sale".

The sale cannot be "marketed properly": the Club cannot offer sales to the general public without breaking Company Law.

Asking the Club (or any privately limited company) to take some cash off you and give you some shares is "a lot to ask for". It's like going into Boots without a prescription and asking them to sell you some Diazepam.


I couldn't agree more-Boots have really gone downhill-much better to use the local Pharmasist.
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 8 2008, 05:37 PM) [snapback]509304[/snapback]
YAWN....... "if you don't agree with me you must be in Dougie's pocket......." C'mon, auld yin, you've been using that gambit for far too long now.

Show some originality, man!!

I'm sorry-that was very cheap.
mortonjag 2008-09-08 18:10:42
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 8 2008, 05:41 PM) [snapback]509307[/snapback]
.....a fate worse than Dr Death.......

I can imagine it now - "Will this be sore?" "Errr, WAS it??" laugh.gif

My cellar holds many surprises.
mortonjag 2008-09-08 18:37:03
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 8 2008, 05:33 PM) [snapback]509303[/snapback]
Well said sir - you're spot on (or is that someone else on here??) unsure.gif

But yes, you're bang on the money.

Hey Ronnie, ask yer friend Big Doc
How nice it is to sook Jag's c*ck. wub.gif

QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 8 2008, 05:58 PM) [snapback]509314[/snapback]
Spot ton I've had my full name view (under my avatar) on this public forum for months now and a picture of me is in my profile. 90% of the staff (not players) who run things at Cappielow know me and I deal with and talk to more than few on a regular basis but I speak my mind even if it goes against the grain sometimes, I criticise the club when I feel they need to be criticised and I'll back the club on things where I see them being wrongly criticised.
You on the other hand like to criticise Mortonjag for asking questions, you accuse him and others of hiding behind a keyboard, I'm sure people at the club know who Mortonjag is, remember (I'm sure you will) an alleged club official/insider posted his personal details on this very site but for everything you have to say about others you are keeping your identity well hidden.

I put it to you, either put up or shut up. rolleyes.gif

MidTons-I've had a thought-not a revolutionary one I admit-but a thought.

Why don't we run a wee competition called 'Spot the Dog'.

The object of the exercise will be to correctly identify 'Measles' and publish his full name on the forum.

All proceeds could be donated to the Trust put in a sealed brown envelope marked 'Youth Development' --- FAO Mr Rae.

There's just a wee hitch at the moment-Measles himself seems to be in something of an identity crisis, but I'm sure the honourable pooch will come clean the moment he realises his Master will be happy.


Failing that, we could ask somebody respectable and respected-say Jim McColl-the fans' representative on the board the Director, to select a name-it wouldn't need to be accurate-indeed he could well nominate himself, or his son, or Stuart Duncan, or indeed Mortonjag-though folk might stumble to the last one being a plant.

It's only an idea-do you think it could catch on? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 18:42:51
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 8 2008, 04:21 PM) [snapback]509243[/snapback]
OK.

Keeps dissolving in tears (7).


Retains! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 18:48:02
QUOTE(Cawston @ Sep 8 2008, 06:27 PM) [snapback]509327[/snapback]
I agree with you about service on a matchday Trumpton but this isn't a 'non-issue'.

We need to raise £2M from this share issue, do we do that by failing to communicate basic instructions to people who show an interest in becoming shareholders?

I was going to agree with you but you've been too cheeky recently.

Instead I'm going to say Mr Rae has got this Spot On.

He has FAR more important things to be doing on a Saturday afternoon than trying to raise money for a stadium that probably won't be here till after he's not.

Many more important things-most of all strutting about talking his usual p1sh and polishing his Poundstretcher shades with his clean white hankie.
mortonjag 2008-09-08 18:53:56
QUOTE(Cawston @ Sep 8 2008, 06:20 PM) [snapback]509321[/snapback]
Is that your best shot Jaggie? tongue.gif

Your powers are weak today old yin, maybe a wee early night in store?

PS. I certainly enjoyed the result smile.gif

laugh.gif

Oh dear Cawstick-'fraid old Jaggy's a bit super sensitive to criticism right now, and doesn't take kindly to cheap jibes, even from respected jousters like your good self.

It was a fine result yesterday, on a pleasant early Autumn's afternoon.

As Jaggy drove across the Nith
Young Cawstick tried to take the pith! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 18:56:46
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 8 2008, 06:42 PM) [snapback]509334[/snapback]
He wont go for it, but I'll donate a fiver if he comes clean. laugh.gif

Will this be a donation aimed at a specific beneficiary, MidTons, or just a donation to 'The Cause'?
mortonjag 2008-09-08 18:59:59
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 8 2008, 06:48 PM) [snapback]509341[/snapback]
My little Morton world....known in some parts as Reality. You're welcome to visit anytime you wish though, i'll even make you hot chocolate with marshmallows.

blush.gif blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 19:02:32
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 8 2008, 06:58 PM) [snapback]509345[/snapback]
are both not as one? laugh.gif

Oh indeed-a bit like the Board itself-I used to think of it as the Trinity-Father, Son, and Wholly Pointless, until Alistair hopped on in that blaze of publicity.
mortonjag 2008-09-08 19:05:39
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 8 2008, 07:01 PM) [snapback]509347[/snapback]
i think you've been banned from reality for at least 7 years following " the incident " .

Goudagate?
mortonjag 2008-09-08 19:13:34
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 8 2008, 04:45 PM) [snapback]509281[/snapback]
Are you going to provide statistics or just regale the board with more 'personal experiences'?


Who let you in?
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 8 2008, 05:45 PM) [snapback]509311[/snapback]
Wow, me and Puggsy's dad must be really special people if the police treated us differently from everyone else in Scotland. rolleyes.gif

And I'm not even a mason! laugh.gif

I think it's all down to perception. There can be few more stressful situations than being involved in an accident where someone is badly hurt, especially if it's a kid that's involved, and people will react and behave differently in these stressful situations. I can easily image that some people will perceive the police breathalising them, checking their car and taking witness statements as intimidating and threatening. But I would suggest that in the vast majority of cases the police are simply doing their job in trying to identify the cause if the accident and if the actions of the driver or the condition of the vehicle had a part to play in it.

Somehow I managed to stay remarkably calm after the accident - far calmer than I ever though I would do in such a situation - and as a result I personally didn't perveive the police investigation as threatening at all. In fact it reassured me as I knew myself that the accident wasn't my fault and indeed the speed of my reactions had minimised the severity of it, and that would be confirmed by their investigations.

It wasn't until several days after the accident that the reality of how close I'd come to killing another human being - and a kid at that - really struck home, and then it took me a ages to get over it.

I used to get those feelings on the way home every working day.
mortonjag 2008-09-08 19:15:35
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Sep 8 2008, 05:56 PM) [snapback]509313[/snapback]
Thanks midTONs.

HMS Willow posting from the Nordic region of the world and online only for two mins with ONE HUGE f***ING SMILE ON MY FACE !!!!

WILLY MAN GOT HIS HOLE FOLKS
mortonjag 2008-09-08 19:17:58
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 8 2008, 07:11 PM) [snapback]509351[/snapback]
Indeed. I still can't believe one man could cause so much trouble Using just some cheese, a cardboard cutout of Ronald Mcdonald and a January 1978 copy of Playboy.

BTW have you heard-Willy Man got his hole?
mortonjag 2008-09-08 19:41:35
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 8 2008, 07:22 PM) [snapback]509356[/snapback]
Think he needs to come visit me in reality aswell. Better get the family size pack of marshmallows in stock.

They're good value in Lidl's.
mortonjag 2008-09-08 19:52:12
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 8 2008, 06:30 PM) [snapback]509329[/snapback]
To help stop you from coming over as an obnoxious Tory snob, for I'm sure wasn't your intention, could explain exactly a 'Glasgow ethos' is? rolleyes.gif

It's quite simple and it's based on generations of 'on the make' leftie cooncillors pandering to the notion that the needs of the educationally 'disadvantaged' must take priority over education.

Does that make me an obnoxious Tory snob too, even when I don't flaunt my capitalism with a signature which advertises a holiday villa? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 19:58:22
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 8 2008, 07:55 PM) [snapback]509364[/snapback]
You're all completely mad. rolleyes.gif

Rabies McArthur-spreading East from Inverclyde and currently doing birlies roon the Whirlies.
mortonjag 2008-09-08 20:48:20
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 8 2008, 08:08 PM) [snapback]509369[/snapback]
Have we had our zenith at Hibs?

laugh.gif

I'd not be surprised if we go all the way to the final! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 20:50:08
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Sep 8 2008, 08:10 PM) [snapback]509370[/snapback]
My real names Hugh but i preferred Herr Scott but I changed it to Gary Glitter to become more popular in Inverclyde.

ERSE CAUGHT?
mortonjag 2008-09-08 20:57:25
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 8 2008, 08:10 PM) [snapback]509371[/snapback]
Just trying to earn an honest bob or two to keep the wolf from the door MJ, we don't all have a doctor's pension to live on you know.

Surely you don't begrudge me that now, do you? biggrin.gif

And to show there's no hard feelings on my part the greenockmorton.net discount extends to you too. wink.gif

I'm not the begrudging type! angel.gif

QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 8 2008, 08:12 PM) [snapback]509372[/snapback]
BTW..... just to clarify something first...... you're not incontinent, are you? unsure.gif

Only of urine.

QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 8 2008, 08:52 PM) [snapback]509398[/snapback]
He's not got a doctors's pension....he's got millions.
And I'm not a 'miserable sod'. mad.gif

Millions of em!
mortonjag 2008-09-08 21:02:12
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Sep 8 2008, 08:58 PM) [snapback]509411[/snapback]
Aye. I was so excited I got very carried away laugh.gif

Are you about to bang her in Stavanger?
mortonjag 2008-09-08 21:07:15
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Sep 8 2008, 09:01 PM) [snapback]509419[/snapback]
cool.gif She assured me she had got rid of AIDS.

I think I've met her! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 21:12:30
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Sep 8 2008, 08:52 PM) [snapback]509397[/snapback]
the jag has a c*** ??? laugh.gif on your forehead maybe. You still not getting out much laugh.gif

One on my forehead so that folk can see me coming Doc.

QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 8 2008, 09:06 PM) [snapback]509427[/snapback]
When did this thread get good? i've been bored to tears with it everytime i've checked but finally its heating up.

If i think every single one of you is an arsehole from behind my keyboard then thats my perogative, as thats the whole point of an internet forum. The fact people get so worked up over and over again because someone they dont know, will never meet and dont like says something on this board is ridiculous. I like MJ, maybe thats because i dont read half his posts, if i see something about Dougie Rae then i just skip right past it, its not that hard. He's entitled to say what he wants though and not need to back it up by anything, the same way everyone on here is.

You'd think that he had the views of Hitler the way some people go on about him. Everyone knows the club is run terribly and if MJ wants to voice that all the time then its his choice, i dont agree with some of the things he says, i dont read other things he says but i recognise his right to say it.
All this thread proves to show is that there are some craaaaaaazy people on this board, and some a lot more than MJ.
i think the more pressing matter here is that at least one of you better put out or shut up, cause im gagging for it.

Have you mislaid the empty Irn Bru bottle again?
mortonjag 2008-09-08 21:16:48
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Sep 8 2008, 09:06 PM) [snapback]509428[/snapback]
Destination change, Im now in Grimstad and been up since 3am due to travelling.

The weather is absolutely horrendous.

Strong gale force winds,lashing it down with rain and on top of that its been a day full of thunder and lightning.

Its that bad weve been unable to leave the Hotel tonight.

laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 21:18:40
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Sep 8 2008, 09:08 PM) [snapback]509434[/snapback]
Well she did say some Morton Fan had jagged it into her tongue.gif

A 1.2 cm mole just above the left nipple?
mortonjag 2008-09-08 21:56:01
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 8 2008, 09:23 PM) [snapback]509455[/snapback]
i think its still in there to be honest, i've been having fizzy sh*ts for days.

rolleyes.gif

Will you NEVER learn to insert-tapered end first?
mortonjag 2008-09-08 22:00:05
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 8 2008, 09:45 PM) [snapback]509480[/snapback]
See, some good comes from having the old Doc on the message board, free Viagra wub.gif

Indeed-free Viagra

free speech

free port ton

free Dutch POUFFES

Free for all- thank God, a mighty free for all!
mortonjag 2008-09-08 22:05:01
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Sep 8 2008, 09:23 PM) [snapback]509457[/snapback]
Its looking a bit larger than what it was when she was 15yrs old ohmy.gif

They were both pretty massive back then! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 22:11:14
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Sep 8 2008, 09:23 PM) [snapback]509456[/snapback]
Now, now, CHC. I'm surprised and saddened that you've resorted to personal insults. I've always thought of you as a 'master debater'. laugh.gif

laugh.gif

QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 8 2008, 09:34 PM) [snapback]509469[/snapback]
Not more of a cunning linguist? rolleyes.gif

laugh.gif


He's a clicking literist.
mortonjag 2008-09-08 22:13:54 Imminent brathump! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-08 22:17:43
QUOTE(forza ton @ Sep 7 2008, 07:14 PM) [snapback]508798[/snapback]
you should see my nephew simon play!!!!!! just turned 14 and plays for morton pro youth. if there's any justice in the universe this boy will wear the hoops. i've never seen anyone with so much natural talent and his attitude is exemplary. he doesn't come on here so he won't see me raving about him but my god that boy has talent. he had a wee injury there but he'll be better in no time. go simon! biggrin.gif

Simon Forza?
mortonjag 2008-09-08 22:30:55
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Sep 8 2008, 09:12 PM) [snapback]509442[/snapback]
I watched his semi on Sat / Sunday and hoping to catch it on Eurosport later, if its on over here.

I take it Sir Cliff was in the audience.
mortonjag 2008-09-09 07:53:21
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 9 2008, 12:31 AM) [snapback]509516[/snapback]
Why don't we run a wee competition called 'Spot the Dog'.

Wot if/when DDFR wins ?

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He gets to keep his pet.
mortonjag 2008-09-09 07:56:46 Whatever became of Rowan Alexander, Mileson, and the Llamas?
mortonjag 2008-09-09 07:59:01
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Sep 8 2008, 03:17 AM) [snapback]508989[/snapback]
Hopefully now we have an under 19's ( at long last , thanks to DI nd DC ) these lads won't simply be lost to us . This is the team who have got the benefit of playing at their age group as a team since under 15's .

This should be the start but I won't be truly satisfied until we get 5 teams 3 at development with the SFA .
An under 13's straight from first touch , an under 14's and 15's . Then the 2 senior youth teams at 17's and 19's .

Have you written to Spotty and the Club?
mortonjag 2008-09-09 08:02:29
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 9 2008, 07:59 AM) [snapback]509553[/snapback]
Gidday doctor,

Why is chocolate for bad for dogs ?

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It makes them acutely paranoid? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-09 08:04:17
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 9 2008, 12:43 AM) [snapback]509518[/snapback]
Where's Spotty ?

Maybe it WAS rabies after all.
mortonjag 2008-09-09 08:07:20
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 8 2008, 10:55 PM) [snapback]509499[/snapback]
And this is why Scots will never get the recognition of being Scottish when we are still part of the UK mad.gif

Andy Murray - England's greatest Scotsman?

Indeed Spurtle, and the English are welcome to take the tramp brat and teach it some good old British dress sense and stiff upper lippedness.
mortonjag 2008-09-09 08:50:52
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 9 2008, 08:27 AM) [snapback]509560[/snapback]
Mileson was recently unmasked as the third llama. No idea about Alexander though.

Now a Tibetan sports journo for the Daily Llama.
mortonjag 2008-09-09 08:54:40
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 9 2008, 08:25 AM) [snapback]509559[/snapback]
I'm sick of you!!!! You're on ignore from now on!! mad.gif
Why is there a campaign to unmask Spotty? Why not a campaign to unmask MJ? In fact my name isn't actually Davie McArthur. I've stolen his identity. DM is a multi-talented millionaire with a 20 inch penis who flies stealth type missions undercover for the government so I thought I would impersonate him on here. My real name is Peter Weatherson.

All is explained! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-09 09:08:26
QUOTE(Cawston @ Sep 9 2008, 08:50 AM) [snapback]509565[/snapback]
I'm working on the assumption that Irnbru contacted Morton to enquire about purchasing shares which would surely avoid the situation highlighted in your post?

A courtesy call to say 'thanks for the enquiry here's what you need to do' would've taken 5 minutes.

Mortonjag heard a wee whisper-only a whisper mind-which suggested that a certain Chief Executive indicated to a certain respectable fan that his measly £60 was totally unacceptable, which made him feel embarrassed and devalued.

Had Mortonjag been treated in a similar manner he would probably have cried himself to sleep before preparing a twenty page letter for the Tilly not to publish, a three line e-mail in beginners' English for the Club not to read, and a Molotov c*cktail for the first big tall fat ugly smoking bitch he encountered within fifty yards of Sinclair St.
mortonjag 2008-09-09 09:17:40
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 9 2008, 08:14 AM) [snapback]509558[/snapback]
Will that improve his tennis ?

dress sense and stiff upper lippedness seem rare in tennis these days.

....and more's the pity! Standards and knickers are down everywhere. I blame God in the first instance, though money has much to answer for.
mortonjag 2008-09-09 09:23:52
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 9 2008, 08:33 AM) [snapback]509561[/snapback]
I've always said that the problem lies with right wing economics and soft left social policy. Only when these are reversed will we see proper change.

I'd like to see every family with three acres and a cow.
mortonjag 2008-09-09 09:32:35 Andy Murray is today officially Scottish again, and that's a shame. I much prefer British brattishness wrapped up in his Union Flag like the true sportsman spoilt little Mummy's darling he is. rip.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-09 10:16:07
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 9 2008, 10:00 AM) [snapback]509597[/snapback]
... and a letter to AD and/or the Trust ?

A letter to AD c/o the Trust? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-09 10:20:52
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Sep 9 2008, 09:46 AM) [snapback]509589[/snapback]
Yeah my colleague saw the body this morning. Police were putting up a tent to cover it up. Appears to have jumped

sad.gif sad stuff

Is it dead?
mortonjag 2008-09-09 10:22:45
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Sep 9 2008, 09:44 AM) [snapback]509588[/snapback]
I've got the cow and she's given me two acres to get on with... blink.gif

smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-09 10:30:11 I reckon I've reached a stage when I can honestly say I'm reasonably contented with my lot.

It wasn't always so.

In many ways I have 'less' now than I had in my thirties and forties-certainly less ambition and less materialism.

I've discovered that contentment has little to do with money, and much to do with a stress free and loving environment.

Does anyone agree?
mortonjag 2008-09-09 10:33:19
QUOTE(Boutros @ Sep 9 2008, 10:27 AM) [snapback]509613[/snapback]
What is the point in your existence?
Also, Evan Tanner was found dead today, for anyone interested.

That's a confusing question-is it rhetorical?
mortonjag 2008-09-09 10:36:53
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 9 2008, 10:15 AM) [snapback]509602[/snapback]
By the way, you must have been really, really slow on Sunday as I did'nt see you in my rear view mirror at all!!

I was late leaving-had to sign several autographs! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-09 10:41:37
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 9 2008, 10:18 AM) [snapback]509606[/snapback]
Is the Trust handling his fan mail ?

blink.gif

I don't think he has any fans.

Why don't you write to Measles-he will know.
mortonjag 2008-09-09 10:44:49 I'm sure our thoughts are with the families of all of today's dead bodies.
mortonjag 2008-09-09 11:01:02
QUOTE(Boutros @ Sep 9 2008, 10:52 AM) [snapback]509626[/snapback]
Agree that the obvious helicopter gag was unnecessary but in what way has someone's moral compass gone completely awry for thinking it's s*** that someone (respected by a great many, I might add) has died, regardless of the circumstances?

I put it to you that it is infact your moral compass that has "gone completely awry".
I'll take it from this that nobody has any further information anyway.

Which is PRECISELY the point of the 'moral compass f*cked' posts.

I'm certainly not attempting to cheapen a tragic death, if INDEED such an event has occurred.

dry.gif


mortonjag 2008-09-09 11:07:10 A colleague tells me that four people died in Glasgow Royal Infirmary last night.
mortonjag 2008-09-09 11:11:46
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 9 2008, 11:06 AM) [snapback]509633[/snapback]
hmmm, this from a guy who runs to the Moderator when he sees things he doesn't like....... dry.gif

THAT sort of thing is PRECISELY the reason I have a dig at you, Dr Death - it's gratuitous, it's insulting, it's not even remotely funny and you get away with it on here far too much. What you say is like water off a duck's back to me, but I'm sick of seeing you bully people and shout them down with insult and sheer volume of posts till they get sick of the time they spend answering your flow of invective - some of us have lives to lead and can't spend half our waking hours monopolising this forum, unlike you.

Act your age for gawd's sake, not your shoe size.

I guess you haven't checked it out with Big Doc, Ronnie boy. Don't knock it till you've tried it.

You're welcome to sook Mortonjag's tadger any time. wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-09 11:16:53
QUOTE(mr_thrax_uk @ Sep 9 2008, 11:11 AM) [snapback]509636[/snapback]
wit? I didnt bring up Evan Tanner...i commented on a previous post. I put one small comment on and somehow thats a big deal.

I know some folk on here like to stamp their authority but there is no rule against deviating slightly from the topic title.

I havent been disrespectful to the person who has died so i see no problem

HAS somebody died?

It's pure speculation until there's an official announcement.

Just SUPPOSE for a moment that some paedophile has been defenestrated by a raging parent.

WELL! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-09 11:21:10
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 9 2008, 11:16 AM) [snapback]509639[/snapback]
.......now we know who the old jokes about "it's just a little p***k with a needle" originally referred to....... dry.gif

I KNOW you're desperate to get those big lips of yours around Mortonjag's little p***k Ronnie.

Please don't embarrass yourself by making it too obvious.

Folk tend to notice.

That's not to say Mortonjag's not flattered by your tender advances. wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-09 11:34:05
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 9 2008, 11:27 AM) [snapback]509646[/snapback]
That's only SIX dwarfs. Are you the seventh? dry.gif

mortonjag 2008-09-09 11:43:44
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Sep 9 2008, 11:24 AM) [snapback]509643[/snapback]
I was commenting on the fact that there were about ten replies to this post (can't be arsed counting the actual number) before someone expressed real regret - and then it was about the death of an American fighter. My point was not aimed at thrax - he obviously genuinely likes the guy who died in America - it was a reflection that when discussing the probable death of a local person in what appears to be tragic circumstances - the best that could be mustered for him was some cheap jokes, rhetoric and couldn't give a f*** really responses. And this is not the first time recently that bad events in Greenock are all met with the same apathetic response - in a lot of cases by the very people who claim that we need to get serious about dealing with crime and social injustices. Well, that starts with how seriously we view it, and the caring we intend to attach to each and every victim.

But I better be careful in the length of my post, lest it detracts from anyone looking skyward to the cemetary.

TonInDublin



QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 9 2008, 11:38 AM) [snapback]509653[/snapback]
I will stick my neck out and say it seems someone definitely died. Now they may not have fallen, been pushed or jumped from a high flat. It may have been an assault at ground level, it may be that something was thrown from the flat it could even be down to natural causes, but judging by the white tent and attendance of Police in various guises it does suggest someone has passed away and they are investigating.

Who has died and the reasons for it can be argued and speculated upon later if that is what people want to do.

Exactly my point Barbie.

Once the FACTS are known, each of us can decide which particular emotions they evoke, and we don't need lectures in the interim on the basis of idle speculation.
mortonjag 2008-09-09 11:59:38
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 9 2008, 11:50 AM) [snapback]509657[/snapback]
I ate the other six.

Like the image MJ, nice big red beard on that dwarf.

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mortonjag 2008-09-09 13:09:19
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Sep 9 2008, 12:47 PM) [snapback]509676[/snapback]
And on the same basis nor do we need derogatory, insulting and churlish comments on the event.

As it turns out someone did die - facts I have now had confirmed to me by someone who lives there - and as it turns out it is indeed a tragic circumstance - ESPECIALLY for those left behind who have to pick up the pieces, and who, just maybe, use this online forum.

TonInDubin

Derogatory, insulting and churlish comments about a death in tragic circumstances are to be deprecated TiD.

Idle speculation on the basis of unconfirmed reports is also undesirable, and has done damage on this forum in the past (with reference to local people).
mortonjag 2008-09-09 13:13:46
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Sep 9 2008, 12:50 PM) [snapback]509678[/snapback]
Now if you were all members of the Jesse, that very event has been getting discussed this past four or five days ! Get yirsel's in there .......

TonInDublin

The Jessie Boys need new blood TiD! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-09 13:38:46
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 9 2008, 01:24 PM) [snapback]509692[/snapback]
Don't tell me you were in the Distribs at Uni. unsure.gif

I was. happy.gif

I was a young SNP Mr Bam.

I think it's a good example of Davie's capitalist socialism, though I guess there would soon be hunners of bureaucrats making sure it didn't work properly!

Such is humanity.
mortonjag 2008-09-09 14:00:41
QUOTE(Stuart Duncan @ Jun 2 2008, 11:50 PM) [snapback]455539[/snapback]
We have received a question from a member regarding Mr Donald and we will take action on behalf of that member.

I was wondering if Mr Donald has replied yet. It seems quite a long time.
mortonjag 2008-09-09 14:03:50
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 9 2008, 01:52 PM) [snapback]509703[/snapback]
Is being struck by a 20 inch penis classified as assault and battery ?

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Are we talking red bearded dwarves?
mortonjag 2008-09-09 14:06:49
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 9 2008, 01:49 PM) [snapback]509701[/snapback]
Is that not part of the "adults" forum ?

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mortonjag 2008-09-09 16:12:34
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 9 2008, 02:37 PM) [snapback]509720[/snapback]
A sensible man, Cawston, and good advice too.

As I've said before, he doesn't like it up 'im, old Captain Mainwaring!!!! laugh.gif

It depends very much on the owner of the organ Ronnie boy. You've already been invited to my cellar. Are you all talk! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-09 16:20:45
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 9 2008, 02:19 PM) [snapback]509716[/snapback]
you really can't let go, can you.......

Look at the dates, MJ, the thread died a natural death through lack of interest or through folk having had it up to the back teeth.............. leave it be, it's deid. Naebuddy cares.

Mortonjag never 'leaves anything be' until he has his answer Ronnie boy-and you still haven't replied to my invitation to sook my worm.

QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 9 2008, 03:03 PM) [snapback]509724[/snapback]
Have you let your guard down Skunk laugh.gif

And for your info there are some folk who care and await the answers.

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mortonjag 2008-09-09 16:38:20
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 9 2008, 04:15 PM) [snapback]509760[/snapback]
nope - are you all THERE?? unsure.gif

Yip!

Just did a head count. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-09 16:42:52
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 9 2008, 04:25 PM) [snapback]509769[/snapback]
oh - they'd just gone into hibernation (no, NOT HIBERNIANation) for three whole months, had they? Some level of interest!

That wasn't up to your usual scintillating responses Ronnie boy, and the question's been kept alive elsewhere!

Pay attention please. biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-09 16:45:20
QUOTE(The Skipper @ Sep 9 2008, 04:30 PM) [snapback]509775[/snapback]
Filmed by a guy called Jackie who does the filming for Morton, this guy is breaching all sorts of laws by selling copies of the DVD. He should be reported.

What's stopping you Skip?
mortonjag 2008-09-09 16:50:14
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 9 2008, 04:43 PM) [snapback]509785[/snapback]
aye. Result: TWO - one very large (and empty) one and one very, very small one.......

Don't be silly-they're all empty Ronnie boy. When you come for your tour of my cellar, we shall dine on braised brain washed down with beaujolais, before the real business gets underway.
mortonjag 2008-09-09 16:56:51 In terms of our wee pubic massage board, I'd have to highlight the joyous postings the night Mortonjag was banned for offending the bouncy fireman.

The rebound effect made Mortonjag smile.

I also remember the time Super Nanny put a bullet through the Monkey. The Monkey survived to tell the tale! laugh.gif

In footballing terms-most memorable and not a happy memory was driving back after we blew it at Peterhead. JM should have been sacked forthwith.
mortonjag 2008-09-09 17:01:52
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 9 2008, 04:54 PM) [snapback]509798[/snapback]
HUNners of 'em - but much too thick to give a toss.......

Ronnie boy-I once had a little bear called Crawford Bear. He should have been longer but my Mummy explained he was shortbread! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-09 17:05:57
QUOTE(EBu @ Sep 9 2008, 04:58 PM) [snapback]509801[/snapback]
I think you find a nice Chianti would go better.

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Shipman-Lecter. That's the Jag!

QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 9 2008, 05:01 PM) [snapback]509802[/snapback]
be a change for you from your usual - Complan.......

That's what they all thought Ronnie boy-come if you dare-though I'm thinking you've bottled it already! laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-09 17:10:15
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Sep 9 2008, 04:30 PM) [snapback]509774[/snapback]
Anyone else want to talk about how relaxed other people looked on supporter's buses? laugh.gif

We passed four of them-they seemed well behaved!
mortonjag 2008-09-09 17:14:15 In those days of Jimbo and Jamie swanning about in Beamer shaggin' wagons, it's refreshing to learn that young Griffiths still 'runs for a bus'.
mortonjag 2008-09-09 17:19:31
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 9 2008, 05:12 PM) [snapback]509813[/snapback]
err, naw - not so much "bottled it", more "not remotely interested", tbh.......

Come, come Ronald me lad-you will have the other posters tittering-they already know you have a FATAL fascination for the Jag. The table's already laid-the Monkey takes care of that, and fing has his apron on.

Be our guest-we are MOST hospitable-you'll laugh yourself to death! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-09 17:21:59
QUOTE(EBu @ Sep 9 2008, 05:18 PM) [snapback]509818[/snapback]
Did it ever come out as to what exactly happened with Alexander at Gretna?

Nope-the proceedings were taken over by the Trust.
mortonjag 2008-09-09 17:25:34
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Sep 9 2008, 04:21 PM) [snapback]509768[/snapback]
http://ibanter.co.uk/kickapps/_Cows-arse-t...6841/22267.html

This bears a remarkable resemblance Dowza blush.gif

Have you ever been HIV +ve or had piles?
mortonjag 2008-09-09 17:35:03
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 9 2008, 05:19 PM) [snapback]509819[/snapback]
you nicked that from the Poet Laureate, didn't you - Andrew Motion....... laugh.gif

Ronnie boy, when you finally pluck up the courage, I'll meet you at your convenience.
mortonjag 2008-09-09 17:38:00
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 9 2008, 05:09 PM) [snapback]509810[/snapback]
If money is not the be all and end all to your contentedness give me 20k so I can be content.

Sean told me you'd already saved that much since you went on the wagon! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-09 17:41:42
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Sep 9 2008, 05:14 PM) [snapback]509814[/snapback]
I spoke to her today as she texted me.

She's looking forward to me dressing up in a Viking outfit for our next encounter rolleyes.gif

Speed bonny boat
There's a throb in my thing


mortonjag 2008-09-09 18:00:25
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 9 2008, 05:38 PM) [snapback]509832[/snapback]
err, I only get RID of little s***s in there, I don't pick 'em up.......

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Very well, just let me know when Uranus is free of Proteus and Jaggy will send you into orbit.
mortonjag 2008-09-09 18:07:36
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 9 2008, 05:34 PM) [snapback]509828[/snapback]
Quite an awful report but one thing stuck out.
A 15-year-old runaway staying at the house had later claimed to police that the mother's boyfriend had carried out "brutal and sadistic" assaults on the child, jurors heard.

Why do I think a 15 year old runaway wouldn't use them terms?

Also if the parents aren't being names...are they under 18?

Hmm! thumbdown.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-09 18:18:43
QUOTE(ton5saints1 @ Sep 9 2008, 03:56 PM) [snapback]509744[/snapback]
Just thinking it would be a great opportunity for the sponsors to get involved in getting kids along to the football.
If every school in Greenock and surrounds was targetted as well as those in the north of the city in Glasgow, we could maybe get thousands of kids along who otherwise don't get the opportunity.
The pricing of the QOTS game on Sunday probably added at least 500 to the gate and should a Morton v Thistle final materialise a fantastic opportunity arises for the sponsors to really promote 'The Alba Cup'.

I wouldn't knock anything which might stimulate genuine interest in the club. It's maybe just the Diddy Cup to us, but it could be a memorable day out for many a kid.

I know it sounds naff, but Golden Casket could run off a limited edition of one of their confections with Ton pictures on them, to be distributed free on the day of the final to all weans in the care of a paying adult.
mortonjag 2008-09-09 18:22:57
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 9 2008, 05:36 PM) [snapback]509830[/snapback]
See if we take away mortonjags posts, and posts that people have posted with something of his in quotes can we then discuss the highlights of the other 2000 or so posts? smile.gif

Hmm! thumbdown.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-09 18:27:58
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 9 2008, 06:17 PM) [snapback]509845[/snapback]
if i had to stand in a toilet for hours watching people piss then i'd want your money aswell!

.....but I've discovered that bending in the cubicles is a smarter way of making a few bucks? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-09 18:33:35
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 9 2008, 05:41 PM) [snapback]509835[/snapback]
I reckon no one can ever be fully content. There will always be things in their life they will wish to fulfil or accomplish.

Well that is my point of view anyway, however living life is about trying to fulfil these wishes. The more you get the more you want to succeed more.

I suppose that's true young man, otherwise I wouldn't spend so much time complaining about the terrible state my beloved Ton's in.

In general terms, however, there's nothing I feel a great need for. If I won the lottery (and I won't as I don't) I can truthfully say I'd have to sit down and decide how to use the money.


mortonjag 2008-09-09 18:36:49
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Sep 9 2008, 06:33 PM) [snapback]509864[/snapback]
Pictures please! Not of you,of her! Don't need face shots just a bit of cleavage or whatever else she's game for and she MUST be game! laugh.gif

I'm sure MidTons would love to see her doing a big jobby.
mortonjag 2008-09-09 18:42:38
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 9 2008, 06:23 PM) [snapback]509854[/snapback]
Fixed for you. wink.gif smile.gif

This is all becoming very confusing. Am I Douglas Rae-I know McArthur believes I am but he thinks he's Peter Weatherson.

Anyway, I wouldn't have a clue what to do with big Gillian short of raffling her as a scarecrow.
mortonjag 2008-09-09 18:50:52
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Sep 9 2008, 06:24 PM) [snapback]509856[/snapback]
MJ Putting his creative mind to use - you could be capable of so much. Just a pity you've chosen to be an 'outsider'

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Do you speak as an 'insider' Cloth Ears? laugh.gif

Mortonjag has indeed much to offer, and in a rare serious moment, Mortonjag announces that he'd willingly devote as much energy as he does here, and more, to the development of our Club, totally free of charge, if the Club was interested in that sort of thing.

Mortonjag would, however, need certain assurances. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-09 19:04:26
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Sep 9 2008, 06:25 PM) [snapback]509857[/snapback]
You pays your money and takes your chances... rolleyes.gif

Could you cope with perineal warts?
mortonjag 2008-09-09 19:12:11
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 8 2008, 08:43 PM) [snapback]509385[/snapback]
I'm talking over the next decade and beyond. I know you hate the thought of it, but believe me Gaidhlig is going to be HUGE !

You heard it here first !! laugh.gif

Is this 'Gaidhlig' some illegitimate sprog you've spawned on one of your your rare ventures into hetero activity Spurtle?

QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 8 2008, 08:54 PM) [snapback]509402[/snapback]
Colkitto is now the Board's Nostradamus.

Verse 4 of his predictions.

"In sheep shagging lands the language spoke
is near to death said the tory bloke
But in sooth he's wrong says mystic col
gazing into his crystal ball
as sure as CHC lives close to bruges
the tcheuchter speak is going to be huge."

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mortonjag 2008-09-09 19:16:03
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 9 2008, 07:08 PM) [snapback]509881[/snapback]
thats true! although its bad for your arthritis.

I've just patented a new suppository for that ailment PT.

It's to be sold as Bender's Balm.
mortonjag 2008-09-09 19:21:18
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Sep 9 2008, 07:11 PM) [snapback]509882[/snapback]
I'm neither. I don't have the energy to be an outsider or an insider. I just go to games, buy the 50/50's , occasional hospitality............................................................... oh . and I regularly bring friends to the game laugh.gif

Some of them even come back. blink.gif

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Roll on the day when that isn't seen as bizarre!
mortonjag 2008-09-09 19:28:03
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 9 2008, 07:20 PM) [snapback]509886[/snapback]
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Chan eil mi a' tuigsinn
mortonjag 2008-09-09 20:12:57
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 9 2008, 07:55 PM) [snapback]509904[/snapback]
Or Plungers Putty ohmy.gif

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That name had already been taken Weegie, as had POUFFE'S POTION.
mortonjag 2008-09-09 20:16:28
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 9 2008, 08:08 PM) [snapback]509907[/snapback]
???

Dè a tha thu a' smaoineachadh? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-09 20:25:37
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 9 2008, 08:18 PM) [snapback]509911[/snapback]
huh.gif

Dè a tha thu a' dèanamh? mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-09 20:31:33
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 9 2008, 08:22 PM) [snapback]509912[/snapback]
It's starting to become really confusing.....am I Peter Weatherson? Are you Douglas Rae? If so you're my bitch. mellow.gif




I am what I am
And what I am needs no excuses
I deal my own deck
Sometimes the aces sometimes the deuces
It's one life and there's no return and no deposit
One life so it's time to open up your closet
Life's not worth a dam till you can shout out
I am what I am

Yours Aye


Nemo
mortonjag 2008-09-09 20:36:55
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Sep 9 2008, 08:31 PM) [snapback]509919[/snapback]
In all serioussness this is something I don't understand.

I shower every morning and as part of that I wash my willie. I don't see why it's unhygenic to not wash my hands after every pee as I don't have a dirty willie.

Tell that to a microscope! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-09 20:39:40
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 9 2008, 08:08 PM) [snapback]509907[/snapback]
???



QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 9 2008, 08:18 PM) [snapback]509911[/snapback]
huh.gif



QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 9 2008, 08:35 PM) [snapback]509924[/snapback]
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Hey Spurtle-what's your problem. You want folk to use the Gaelic- n'est ce pas?
mortonjag 2008-09-09 20:46:11
QUOTE(Zutons @ Sep 9 2008, 08:28 PM) [snapback]509917[/snapback]
Picnic dick ph34r.gif

I'd happily sandwich my cucumber between his outsiders but I've heard he's HGV +ve.
mortonjag 2008-09-09 20:51:41
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 9 2008, 08:42 PM) [snapback]509928[/snapback]
unsure.gif

Oh well-don't accuse me of not trying-back to normal service!

Bawheid's a POUFFE who takes it up the arse from Soapy, Sir Cliff, and Moira's rolling pin in no particular order and sings 'God Save the Queen' in his bath, while tossing himself off, gazing lovingly into his handbag mirror.
mortonjag 2008-09-09 21:14:53
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 9 2008, 09:11 PM) [snapback]509934[/snapback]
Yes we were talking about about that on our bus several weeks ago.

Forfar at Cappielow if I recall correctly.
mortonjag 2008-09-10 06:42:54
QUOTE(gmsc-doco-1874 @ Sep 9 2008, 09:16 PM) [snapback]509940[/snapback]
you're right MJ

it was the yellow millions top from a few years back they had to wear wasn't it ?

I'm sure that's right and it actually looked not too bad along with their powder blue shorts-or was it vice versa?

Anyway I remember I kept thinking their players were ours for the first wee while.
mortonjag 2008-09-10 06:55:07
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 10 2008, 12:49 AM) [snapback]509995[/snapback]
I think the thread in GMST is suffice.

However, it still surprises me that AD appears to chosen to ignore the second largest shareholder.

That's because you are intelligent Newt.

99% of posters don't even know the GMST forum exists- which is crystal clear when you examine its usage. It's a perfect reflection of the Trust itself-happy to bask in ineffectual obscurity, but barking loudly when anyone threatens to disturb the peace!
mortonjag 2008-09-10 07:02:14
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 9 2008, 09:25 PM) [snapback]509943[/snapback]
I see the club are doing hospitality for £30 for the above game. That includes a two course buffet meal plus pay bar plus the usual half time pies, cakes, teas, etc. Considering the cost of entry, thats not bad value at all.

You sound very hungry! laugh.gif

QUOTE(Toby @ Sep 9 2008, 10:06 PM) [snapback]509954[/snapback]
I got an e-mail about it. Assuming it just goes to season ticket holders that put their e-mail address on the forms.

Is it just me or is Rae missing a trick with hospitality? After all the times he's criticised us, I refuse to go and listen to him at one of these little get-togethers. That's costing the club money and I wonder how many others are the same.

If they could get a 'VIP' instead of that boring non entity-say a local worthy or an ex player to chat casually with the guests it would become 100% more interesting overnight.

QUOTE(Waverley @ Sep 9 2008, 10:17 PM) [snapback]509958[/snapback]
I'm not a season ticket holder, but I have e-mailed the club on several occasions about various topics. I can only assume that the club saves these e-mail addresses for future use, such as notifying about hospitality, etc. i would expect that this would be a normal business practice.

That's indeed the case Waverley, but GMFC is a law unto itself.

I have e-mailed them several times, and failed to get an acknowledgement.

I don't believe they'd want me at hospitality.
mortonjag 2008-09-10 07:06:20
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 10 2008, 12:57 AM) [snapback]509997[/snapback]
As the sole purpose of the share issue is to achive SPL compliance, is it not best for the club to promote the issue in a couple of years' time ?

No work was planned for 18 months and at present there are surely more urgent issues to address.

As the issue is open for 5 years, there is plenty of time to raise the necessary funds.

Or, am I missing something ?

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You're missing the 'Out of the Country factor' Newt.

If Mr Rae were to stop being Chairman today for whatever reason, I believe we could expect to see SPL football at Cappielow in less than five years!

Probably I'm missing something-mind you!
mortonjag 2008-09-10 07:14:08
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 10 2008, 01:04 AM) [snapback]509999[/snapback]
Why is it "wrong" for an employee of Morton FC to post here ?

OK, I accept that an employee does not need to be a supporter.

But, would that not be the exception ?

For the simple reason that they all have to sign the Cappielow official secrets act, pledge allegiance to the Master, and swear an oath to repel the infidel. The infidel is epitomised by the 'negativity boys' on 'this rag'. laugh.gif

Were there such a thing as a free thinking employee of Raemanov I'd be first to welcome him aboard! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-10 07:20:43
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 10 2008, 07:07 AM) [snapback]510018[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

I am tempted on write ...

Spot on

but, I won't.

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oops - I did.

Sometimes you're like a dog with a bone Newt!


Did you SPOT that example of simile?

FAO Puggs-it's NOT a spelling mistake-I don't mean a wee laughing face used to pad out posts like this---

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mortonjag 2008-09-10 07:30:46
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 10 2008, 07:22 AM) [snapback]510022[/snapback]
Are there no infidels from Love Street ?

Are they just Middenites ?

Puggs will inform you it's 'midnight' Newt!

With regard to my previous post, remember Allan McGraw has never been back to Cappielow since Rae became Manager.

That gives a very clear insight into the mentality of the sugar boiler. Those who are not totally for him MUST be against him.

Some have mentioned a 'siege mentality'.

I sincerely believe that GMFC backroom employees all suffer from the same personality problem, which I won't specify in order to avoid offence.

Suffice to say that they all appear to think Mr Rae is the best thing since sliced bread! laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-10 07:35:07
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 10 2008, 07:16 AM) [snapback]510020[/snapback]
The current share is not underwritten, is it ?

Perhaps its primary short term benefit is to give a feel good factor to those supporters, who want to join the list of minority shareholders ?

Then GC and AD can contribute, when appropriate, in 2010 or 2011 or ?

I believe AD was used in January (with some initial compliance) as a publicity stunt when our fortunes were at a low under Rae/JM.

I agree that the share issue has generated some hope. I simply see it as a holding measure by AD and his buddy pending the unpredictable departure of the Sugar Daddy.
mortonjag 2008-09-10 07:38:25
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 10 2008, 07:29 AM) [snapback]510024[/snapback]
I got good service from the previous commerical manager.

Was his name - Norris ?

Goods arrived in less than a week.

I believe he was sacked for using first class stamps.
mortonjag 2008-09-10 07:41:48
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 10 2008, 07:37 AM) [snapback]510027[/snapback]
piper

pays

calls

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Suffice to say that they all appear to think Mr Rae is the best thing since sliced bread!
perhaps they know which side their bread is buttered ?

Every time I've mentioned Hitler in this context folk have got upset-so I won't.
mortonjag 2008-09-10 08:03:40
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 10 2008, 07:39 AM) [snapback]510029[/snapback]
... he has a mate who supports the Midden ??

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They both have a passing interest in Au + e + lo +X and her three mates!
mortonjag 2008-09-10 08:06:14
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 10 2008, 07:43 AM) [snapback]510031[/snapback]
Don't use first class stamps for second class supporters ?

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Don't use stamps at all and let them foot the bill.

Have you ever been asked to foot a bill for Morton, Newt?
mortonjag 2008-09-10 08:09:54
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 9 2008, 09:42 PM) [snapback]509949[/snapback]
after

Jobberies and cream?
mortonjag 2008-09-10 08:11:50
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Sep 9 2008, 10:49 PM) [snapback]509971[/snapback]
I have contentment in my life, i have 2 kids (one of each), i do the job i wanted to do as a wee boy and they pay my handsomely for the privilege, no big dramas in my life.

Do you drive a fire engine?
mortonjag 2008-09-10 08:22:05
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 9 2008, 09:49 PM) [snapback]509950[/snapback]
Reports today in the Sun (i know I know) about Kylie thinking of turning Lesbo because she can't find a boyfriend.

Surely you are either gay (lesbo) or not. You don't just say I think I'll become a lesbo ? Or is this a woman thing ? Can women change sexually when they want to ?

I mean, if I couldn't get a girlfriend for a few months or so, I'm not going to wake up one morning and say, " I can't get a burd, so I think I'll go and suck some guy off today" blink.gif

Spurtle-your childlike simplicity sometimes makes me want to give you a big cuddle!

Just suppose for a moment you thought you'd shagged Kylie (and had your best orgasm in years) before the blindfold was removed to reveal the dripping wet keech spattered arse of a beaming Sir Cliff.

Wouldn't you still have enjoyed yourself?


So if wee Kylie wants happiness from a tongue, sweet caresses, and a 375 b.h.p. diesel dildo, who are we to disagree? She clearly finds that infinitely preferable to some shrivelled and saltire tattooed worm.
mortonjag 2008-09-10 08:33:34
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Sep 10 2008, 08:20 AM) [snapback]510047[/snapback]
I tend to agree. The last four months for me have been brutal - I've started taking panic attacks - something which I gave my ex-wife little comfort over when she suffered them, and by jesus - has that come back to haunt me.

They are truly frightening things, and based on all of the literature I can get my hands on, at the root of it all is stress. Strangely though, it kicked in at my trip in San DIego in June this year, which coincidentally saw me have a similar issue two years ago - which then went away and came back- I thought it might have had to do with being on the twelve hour flight - something to do with my ears/balance (Initial feeling is one of dizziness/imbalance, especially when speaking to audiences) so I went to several quacks who prescribed two sets of s***e that did nothing, before researching this myself and basically self diagnosing - later confirmed by my quack.

Truly horrible- and I know (pray) they will go away one day as fast as they appeared - but I'd trade a pile of my wages now for the contentment I had before - I've effectively stopped refereeing - from refereeing at the highest level here, certain places set it off so I avoid them, and all in all it's a s***e state of affairs.

So yes MJ, I would agree - leave me enough to get comfortably by on, keep the rest and giv eme my life back, stress free and enjoyable.

TonInDubin

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Laughing at the bold type TiD!


You've been driving yourself too hard Johnny Boy! It's as simple as that!

You're probably mildly obsessive/compulsive and set yourself extremely difficult targets which MUST be hit!

I've been there too. I never suffered the panic attacks, but the workaholism didn't help my marriage, even if they grabbed every penny with glee.

Sit down and work out the real priorities-even if it means downsizing in certain aspects of your life.

Try to get over to Scapa more often for example-there's an excellent starter!
mortonjag 2008-09-10 09:22:54
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Sep 10 2008, 08:52 AM) [snapback]510061[/snapback]
You're probably right MJ - need some good old Morton viewing to getstress otu of my life - aye right !!!!
I end up going bananas sitting in the room on a Saturday on the webcast - imagine being there in person !

I don't do things by half - so you're spot on with your analysis - unlike the two f***wits I spoke to over here.
I rushed from a high level meeting at work to the first doc (twenty mins door to door to make the appointment) - he says your blood pressure is high - 140/90 - so prescribes beta blockers. Which only make the next two weeks compeltely unbearable - includng not being able to travel to Israel when I nearly collapsed at the airport.

Back to another quack - "of course your blood pressure was higher, you just ran here from a meeting at work, and by the way we don't treat anything as low as 140/90 in Ireland - the locum was from South Africa - should never have prescribed beta blockers, and they will take time to come out of your system as well - now, oh, let me see now - fear of flying is it - (errr, no you dick !) - here take these Xanax, only use them if you're flying - you'll be grand - arsehole !
Eight tablets and good luck to me.

At €60 a visit - wankers.

Did self assessment of symptoms, spoke to few people I knew, did research and went back to him with full list of symptoms, material I had researched, and how I felt. Solution - you're right enough. Well f*** me, how did I not spot that. Here's another twenty bennies, take em if you need 'em. As useful as tits on a bull.

Anyway, getting a bit better as the weeks progress - only had to take four tablets in last eight weeks - using an excellent piece of literature I bought to understand/combat this - and someone has put me on to something called Rescue Remedy - which I've bought but not used - trying not to medicate this away.

Strangely enough -with two pints in you - the world is good - the old neurons flow perfectly in balance then - so we'lll keep the head down and plough on. But if however you have the secret solution don't be shy in sharing MJ !!!!!

TonInDublin

My diagnosis is that the Ton need your input at Cappielow. I believe that would coincide with an upturn in our fortunes! blush.gif


In my case TiD, the train eventually just hit the buffers. I don't intend to elaborate on the forum, but events overtook me and I was forced to re-address life's priorities.

I'm not skint, but I live in a relatively humble wee flat with a relatively new partner who fortunately is as unambitious as I used to be the opposite. I could easily go back to work-I'm not nearly as old and decrepit as some imagine, but I deliberately avoid the stress.

I genuinely live one day at a time which is a luxury I couldn't enjoy for nigh on forty years. I never worry about tomorrow-let's face it tomorrow never comes anyway. I do a wee bit of voluntary counselling-sometimes I get battered into a DIY project- and if I start to get restless I go for a walk, or strum my guitar.

Once in a while I log onto this forum. That's the part of my insanity which seems chronic and incurable! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-10 09:30:14
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 10 2008, 09:27 AM) [snapback]510066[/snapback]
As mortonjag was driving down the M8, his car phone rang.

Answering his phone he heard his wife's voice urgently warning him, "MJ, I just heard on the news that there's a car going the wrong way the M8. Please be extra careful!"

"Hell," said MJ, "It's not just one car. It's hundreds of them !!!"

....and they're ALL WRONG! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-10 09:36:09
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 10 2008, 09:29 AM) [snapback]510067[/snapback]
Ms Dylan told Stern she would submit to a gynecological examination and lie detector test to prove she was really a virgin.

Gidday Trick,

Would you like to do the testing ?


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A precise diagnosis of virgo intacta is impossible in 90% of women who claim not to have had sexual intercourse.
mortonjag 2008-09-10 09:38:03 From today's Herald
mortonjag 2008-09-10 09:40:30
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 10 2008, 08:10 AM) [snapback]510039[/snapback]
you could be ... just right

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mortonjag 2008-09-10 09:42:19
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 10 2008, 08:12 AM) [snapback]510042[/snapback]
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... and the lad is now playing in the Premier League.

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So much for JM's assessment-or was it his? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-10 09:45:08
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 10 2008, 09:32 AM) [snapback]510069[/snapback]
Is that why the US government banned sliced bread after Pearl Harbour ?

The ban was ordered by Claude R. Wickard, who held the position of Food Administrator, and took effect on January 18th, 1943.

Any relation to Claude R. Crutch?
mortonjag 2008-09-10 09:49:01
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 10 2008, 09:40 AM) [snapback]510073[/snapback]
A rich Inverclyde businessman sees an advertisement in the Financial Times for the world's fastest and most expensive car.

It's called the Tri-Turbo Convertible Fantasy and it costs over one million pounds.

He decides he must have it and three months later he takes delivery.

Eager to play with his new toy, he takes it out for a spin.

At the first stop sign, an old man rides up next to the Fantasy on an old Vespa motor scooter. Without invitation, the old man sticks his head through the open window and croaks, "Quite a ride you got there sonny - how fast will she go?"

"About 270 km," answers the Inverclyde businessman.

"No way," says the old man.

Just then, the light turns green and the businessman decides to show the old man what the car can do. He floors it, and within seconds the car is doing 270.

But suddenly, he notices a dot in his rear vision mirror that seems to be getting closer and closer. Thinking it's the polis, the businessman comes to a stop.

Then, whooooooooooosh, something goes flying by.

"What the heck was that?" wonders the Inverclyde businessman.

"What can go faster than my Fantasy?"

Suddenly, the same blur comes racing back toward him, and whoooooosh, passes right by in the opposite direction.

This time he gets a better look and would almost swear that it looked like the old man on the Vespa motor scooter.

"That just couldn't be," he thinks to himself.

Suddenly, he sees it again in his rear view mirror and wham!

It smashes slap bang into the back of the Fantasy.

The businessman jumps from his car, and sure enough, it's the old man on the Vespa that's crashed into him.

"Are you okay?" asks he asks. Is there anything I can do for you?"

"Yes," replied the old man, "could you unhook my braces from your side mirror, please."

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mortonjag 2008-09-10 09:51:53
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 10 2008, 09:42 AM) [snapback]510077[/snapback]
That's why Trick is giving her a lie detector test as well.

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I'm not sure if the Mods will allow me to post a picture of Tricky's dicky! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-10 10:02:25
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 10 2008, 09:56 AM) [snapback]510086[/snapback]
Gidday MJ,

When did Trick give it to you ?

The picture I mean.

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I don't have a specific picture of Tricky's penis, but I've read his posts often enough to predict its appearance. If I were allowed to post it, it would have to be in flaccid mode and reduced to 10%.
mortonjag 2008-09-10 10:07:29
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 10 2008, 08:15 AM) [snapback]510046[/snapback]
Did you find anything that Nostradamus said about Morton FC ?

Read 'From the Chairman's Desk' in Saturday's programme.
mortonjag 2008-09-10 10:15:51
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 10 2008, 09:57 AM) [snapback]510088[/snapback]
... or maybe you're being too hard ?

Enjoy!
mortonjag 2008-09-10 10:20:53
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 10 2008, 10:14 AM) [snapback]510096[/snapback]
Are you saying that she should give it freely ?
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Nope-it should be dealt with wholesale.
mortonjag 2008-09-10 10:27:45
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 10 2008, 10:22 AM) [snapback]510100[/snapback]
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Or auctioned-

Ladies and gentlemen we now come to Lot No. 66-a 22 year old unused phanny still in its original wrappings.

Do I hear an opening bid-come gentlemen-I'll start you off with £50.........
mortonjag 2008-09-10 10:33:54
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 10 2008, 10:29 AM) [snapback]510103[/snapback]
She never came back again.

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Tell me MJ, was the Bear's home named Cappielow ?

Now, if only she'd brought a friend, things could have been very different.

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If you go down to Scapa today, you're in for a big surprise! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-10 10:51:24
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 10 2008, 10:44 AM) [snapback]510107[/snapback]
You're not wrong

I'm NEVER wrong young man. Hopefully you will one day enjoy the blessed inner peace and contentment which accrues from the attainment of perfection. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-10 10:59:21
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Sep 10 2008, 10:54 AM) [snapback]510109[/snapback]
Can they be reset ? or even have the explosives extracted and used by A N Other ?

I've heard about him too-he's an evil b*stard I believe!
mortonjag 2008-09-10 13:19:07
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 10 2008, 01:07 PM) [snapback]510162[/snapback]
I don't believe MANY of us would want you at hospitality! laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-09-10 13:23:03
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 10 2008, 01:14 PM) [snapback]510166[/snapback]
....which brings me back to my original point - why resurrect it here after three months of non-interest?? You say YOURSELF it's ongoing elsewhere, so to try to breathe life into it here when no-one had added a post in all that time is about as pointless as a luminous sundial....... dry.gif

....which brings Mortonjag to a point, and Mortonjag quotes a fellow poster:


'If I started a thread titled Ron Number is a Thumper it would still be relevant in a years time...oh wait maybe not because you will have scrapped your alias by then and everyone will have forgotten about you'.
mortonjag 2008-09-10 13:25:50
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 10 2008, 12:24 PM) [snapback]510147[/snapback]
Newton, you've been away too long. Our cars still do miles per hour, not kilometres....

Mine does both!
mortonjag 2008-09-10 13:43:42
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 10 2008, 11:09 AM) [snapback]510119[/snapback]
What an interesting thread.

I've a theory - which I'll concede now may well be a complete load of pish - that if you're truly content within yourself then you wouldn't feel the need to take mind altering drugs (including alcohol) to 'improve' the state of your mind.

I don't necessarily mean you need to be tea-total to be content, I mean that if your truly content then you wouldn't drink alcohol for the sole purpose of getting drunk.

In preparation for being shot down in flames I'm putting my flak jacket on now. blush.gif

Do you mean once a night, once a week, or just when the Ton win the Scottish cup?

QUOTE(leyTON @ Sep 10 2008, 11:38 AM) [snapback]510133[/snapback]
i agree with puggs
your life isnt great if you are content, as you have no desire for any improvement
even minimal improvements like watching the tv

Again the perception of a youngster. I understand where you're coming from. The beauty of 'having no desire for 'improvement', is in acceptance of the status quo rather than frustration by it.

Contented people do not by definition reject what might be perceived as an 'enhancement' of their lot, should that arrive on the doorstep. It just doesn't matter either way-that's the whole point.
mortonjag 2008-09-10 13:51:10
QUOTE(.:BrIDo:. @ Sep 10 2008, 01:36 PM) [snapback]510180[/snapback]
Get a life.

I don't know the full story here but if some poor guy is being slated for making a few bob by selling desirable material to voluntary paying customers, he's more honourable than Rae!
mortonjag 2008-09-10 14:31:17
QUOTE(leyTON @ Sep 10 2008, 02:18 PM) [snapback]510212[/snapback]
im interested in this jim, and im waiting back to hear from a few nates
youll have a pm by the end of the day
couple of questions
is this the chairmans lounge?
why isnt MJ going?
do we get to vote on MOM?
does the dress code still apply?

maybe MJ is! blink.gif
QUOTE(Toby @ Sep 10 2008, 02:22 PM) [snapback]510214[/snapback]
So do I, but you'd also assume all season ticket holders get renewal letters in the summer rolleyes.gif .

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mortonjag 2008-09-10 14:35:32
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Sep 10 2008, 01:43 PM) [snapback]510184[/snapback]
I had a nightmare last night that the world WAS actually imploding due to this thing, and as we all were blasted asunder the last thing we heard before oblivion was MortonJag's voice shouting "IT'S ALL DOUGIE RAE'S FAULT.......!!"

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Our Morton world would already have imploded if the old fud had persuaded JM to stay.
mortonjag 2008-09-10 14:37:55
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 10 2008, 01:52 PM) [snapback]510195[/snapback]
She must be game if she went for the Willowman? ph34r.gif

You sound jealous! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-10 15:17:00
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 10 2008, 02:45 PM) [snapback]510222[/snapback]
I was asking a question, don't be naughty. rolleyes.gif Willowman is gorgeous, wub.gif but unfortunately i am spoken for.

If there was no Mr TON would you like to shag the Willy Man?
mortonjag 2008-09-10 15:30:35
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 10 2008, 03:23 PM) [snapback]510246[/snapback]
Now, that's a loaded question. ph34r.gif I think we should all help to get Willowman a lady friend, not some young strumpet who fancies a go at an older man. ph34r.gif We should get him a nice girl/lady. Don't you think so? unsure.gif

Or an attractive and perceptive young woman who has come to appreciate that her male peers are useless in bed and generally skint! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-10 15:37:11
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 10 2008, 03:31 PM) [snapback]510258[/snapback]
I went to the Chairman's lounge last season in the expectation that we would dine with our chairman - not necessarily at the same table - but in the same room. Its not so - he entertains the visiting director's in the boardroom but does go round every table and chatting to the guest. I was a bit disappointed to be honest and as far as I am concerned the overall difference was not worth the extra money. None of us could drink enough to justify the extra which I thought I was paying to have an opportunity for an extended chat with the chairman. Maybe my expectations were misplaced.

I've been to all three grades of entertainment and silver is best value. Gold is in sort of a no mans land and the Chairmans is a bit overpriced but enjoyable nonetheless.

I think calling it the Chairman's lounge is a bit misleading and maybe it should be renamed the platinum package.

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mortonjag 2008-09-10 15:39:33
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 10 2008, 03:37 PM) [snapback]510263[/snapback]
I believe he was sacked for very valid reasons which no one disagree with.

Did he fail to turn up for morning devotions?
mortonjag 2008-09-10 15:43:08
QUOTE(ShimminTon @ Sep 10 2008, 03:40 PM) [snapback]510265[/snapback]
You should of reported Newall to the commerical manager for having disgusting table manners. rolleyes.gif

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You should of gone to a proper school Farrell! dry.gif

mortonjag 2008-09-10 15:54:12
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Sep 10 2008, 03:27 PM) [snapback]510251[/snapback]
I just can't see it. Us playing say Airdrie at Cappielow on a Tuesday night is going to be worth £100,000 to each team? What TV deal is this - shown live on BBC 1 between episodes of Strictly Come Dancing? Who honestly wants to watch a Challenge Cup Semi unless their team is involved (or even if their team is involved)?

Story of your life?
mortonjag 2008-09-10 15:56:45
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 10 2008, 03:31 PM) [snapback]510259[/snapback]
So is Willowman...so i've heard. ph34r.gif

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Which?
mortonjag 2008-09-10 16:24:42
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Sep 10 2008, 04:08 PM) [snapback]510286[/snapback]
You're a special man

Oh indeed SH -just call me Crippen-Shipman-Lecter-Fritzl!

You are another welcome guest to my cellar! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-10 16:47:28
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 9 2008, 11:20 PM) [snapback]509982[/snapback]
Surely the fella wanted books from a University? unsure.gif

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QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 10 2008, 03:02 PM) [snapback]510230[/snapback]
I found all of my Open University notes in the attic the other day so if anyone would like my notes of the EU to solve any insomnia issues they may have just PM me.

Did you find Peter yet?

QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 10 2008, 04:38 PM) [snapback]510295[/snapback]
I prefer " A man of discernment".
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To be fair, I finished Uni in 1975 and didn't chuck my Chemistry notes out until 1995. rolleyes.gif

Though once I had passed my last maths course I consigned those notes to a joyous bonfire. laugh.gif

I have retained my Gray's Anatomy. Munx and Fing like to keep the cellar tidy.
mortonjag 2008-09-10 16:58:49
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Sep 10 2008, 04:52 PM) [snapback]510302[/snapback]
It does indeed look like there's more cash on the go. Whether it'll actually get to anything decent is still debatable though.
I hope there's some wine in that cellar.

The cellar contains many fine wines. Most of the inhabitants drunk themselves to death! drink.gif thumbup2.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-10 17:22:31 Is 'Human Resource Management' another of those terms used to 'tart up' some two bit job?

I understand terms like Plumber, Electrician, Hairdresser-Confectionery Manufacturer even, but I'm always very suspicious of suspicious sounding titles.

Human
–adjective
of, pertaining to, characteristic of, or having the nature of people:

Resource
–noun
a source of supply, support, or aid, esp. one that can be readily drawn upon when needed

Management
–noun
the act or manner of managing; handling, direction, or control.


OH F*CK!

What does it mean? mad.gif

mortonjag 2008-09-10 18:18:11
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Sep 10 2008, 05:54 PM) [snapback]510328[/snapback]
In 2002/03 (the last season I could find details for) the sponsorship money was divided up as follows:

The Challenge Cup sponsored by Bell's

1st Round Losers - £3000
2nd Round Losers - £4000
3rd Round Losers - £5000
Semi-Final Losers - £6000
Runner-Up - £12,000
Winner - £16,000

The League Cup sponsored by CIS Insurance

1st Round Losers - £7500
2nd Round Losers - £10,500
3rd Round Losers - £17,500
4th Round Losers - £27,500
Semi-Final Losers - £34,000
Runner-Up - £60,000
Winner - £80,000

So six years down the line, and taking account of TV and gate money, £100,000 seems quite feasible.
mortonjag 2008-09-10 18:25:04
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Sep 10 2008, 06:19 PM) [snapback]510341[/snapback]
How about " Love to Boogie" .(T Rex) . With a slight adjustment we have ...........................................
We Love you Dougie , We love you Dougie , We love You Dougie................................................ on a Saturday Niiighhht

Go on MJ, have a go. dry.gif
Edit to add another we love you Dougie for artistic purposes.

I like that choon, but I'm not sure if Dougie quite fits...

You rattlesnake out with your tailfeathers high
Jitterbug left and smile to the sky laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-10 18:30:45
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 10 2008, 06:15 PM) [snapback]510337[/snapback]
Yes please

EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDPuggs-is it true that you're a virgin. I didn't have you down as one until CHC mentioned it, but it might explain your obsession with pictures of unattainable shags.
mortonjag 2008-09-10 18:35:30 Happy birthday! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-10 18:54:02
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Sep 10 2008, 06:42 PM) [snapback]510347[/snapback]
You're the one who highlighted 'supporters' not me.
All sensible suggestions are welcome, yours 'n' all!
What I don't appreciate is you hijacking a thread to have a dig at others.
And I think you received a p.m. from me at the time fully explaining my 'buddy' status.

Love to Boogie is a great choon, think I'll give it a blast on Saturday...

Go on MJ, delete the crap above, make the thread a little more easier on the eye...

You are quite right-it was rather low of me to descend to the regular method used by others to attempt to discredit me, but you're a good chap and the post will be deleted forthwith! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-10 18:58:28
QUOTE(ShimminTon @ Sep 10 2008, 06:52 PM) [snapback]510357[/snapback]
Proper school Newall! rolleyes.gif Good english.

Speak to Tannoy Man, Mr Groundsman-I merely pasted his original comment.

Do you EVER get anything right Farrell? mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-10 19:03:58
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Sep 10 2008, 06:57 PM) [snapback]510361[/snapback]
The killie game was pobably the biggest highlight . eally started to enjoy the forum when The Taxi for McInally thread by KP Low poor guy got a roasting .

Low points the thread that made WDE almost puke on the Jesse Forum . bogging !!!

He did, and of course he was correct all along. I don't think we can access the older posts where Rae, JM, Mileson etc were criticised.

Some of the spleen vented against the enlightened would cause a fair few red faces now! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-10 19:12:00
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 10 2008, 07:06 PM) [snapback]510373[/snapback]
everyone knows that all new posters are stupid.

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Unlike you to be provocative darling-you may have upset Shimmin's turkey keech cart.
mortonjag 2008-09-10 19:16:33
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 10 2008, 07:13 PM) [snapback]510383[/snapback]
i just hate how they can come on here and they automatically think they're as good as people like me, when they have to earn that status.

I couldn't agree more-I got to almost 20,000 posts before people realised I'm Douglas Rae, and even now it's only dawned on a few.
mortonjag 2008-09-10 19:24:40 SUMMERTIME-Mungo Jerry!

Guaranteed to get Mr Rae's feet tapping.

Very good choon.
mortonjag 2008-09-10 19:38:54
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 10 2008, 06:49 PM) [snapback]510352[/snapback]
Both. ph34r.gif

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Mind you he claims she wants another date!

Can it indeed be BOTH?
mortonjag 2008-09-10 19:42:14
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 10 2008, 06:39 PM) [snapback]510346[/snapback]
Unlucky for 44 Tonne Ton he wont be my first when he gets his paws on me!

And can't a guy dream of the unattainable? Surely that's what supporting Morton is about wink.gif

...and have a go at Thrax...he posted a picture of her first!

Don't be silly-that's what's WRONG at the moment.

I much preferred the jobby picture.
mortonjag 2008-09-10 19:47:16
QUOTE(Malt @ Sep 10 2008, 07:00 PM) [snapback]510367[/snapback]
Yes. It means we will never reach your standard of education and never be accepted by a proper University. How I wish I was a Dr.

I'm sure you do, but not so sure I'd recommend it those days.

On reflection I might have enjoyed Human Resource Management a lot better, if I had a clue what the f*ck it means! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-10 20:46:35
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 10 2008, 08:22 PM) [snapback]510414[/snapback]
I am Peter.....remember? rolleyes.gif

Yes,yes!
mortonjag 2008-09-10 20:55:30

Youth Teams
The following Youth teams games are scheduled to be played this weekend.

Sunday 14th September

Under 15's v Drumchapel Boys Club
Battery Park 2.15pm kick off

Under 19's v Cowdenbeath F.C.
Battery Park 12.15pm kick off

Posted on 10 September, 2008



The site has been vastly improved.

Keep up the good work.
mortonjag 2008-09-10 20:59:59
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 10 2008, 08:52 PM) [snapback]510424[/snapback]
and what units of measure do you use for the purchase of fuel ?

Makes it easy to calculate mpg ?

We buy in litres and have to convert to m.p.g.

Do you think in terms of miles per litre? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-10 21:02:04
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 10 2008, 08:54 PM) [snapback]510426[/snapback]
Gidday Boozehound,

Wot a delightful turn of phrase.

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If he really wants a sh1t ride I'm sure Spurtle will oblige! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-11 06:55:41
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 10 2008, 10:18 PM) [snapback]510486[/snapback]
It was one of Alex's P7 classmates, Tommy, who was in the QoS section and who told him that some idiot was making monkey noises. Kids nowadays recognise that that sort of thing is just plain wrong. I suspect the QoS support would tell the idiot to stop because that sort of thing would no more be tolerated by most of their supporters than it would be by ours.

I recall an incident at Stair Park a few years ago when a few of our lot let us down, and we were about to tell them to cut it out until we noticed that one of the polis was joining in and found the whole thing hilarious. We decided not to get involved, although afterwards I wish I had done.

The Monkey wishes to enquire as to the actual nature of their comments.
mortonjag 2008-09-11 07:04:09
QUOTE(xj2006 @ Sep 10 2008, 10:35 PM) [snapback]510495[/snapback]
you are always so negative

I don't know what to say....

What the f*ck are you talking about?

It's damned if I do and it's bloody well damned if I don't EH!!! ph34r.gif

I'd FAR rather see the improved site publishing GENUINE news about local stuff than the old habit of copying and pasting stuff that was two days old.

I'll spell it out for you again...




The site has been vastly improved.

Keep up the good work.




No smileys-no exclamation marks-no inverted commas-just a simple statement of commendation.


Do you understand now, or shall I make it even simpler? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-11 07:07:48
QUOTE(Dream Oak Tree @ Sep 11 2008, 12:22 AM) [snapback]510565[/snapback]
Doddie,

I have to say you've taken me aback by implying Robbie Henderson is a footballer, and in the same post saying you're not convinced about Alex Walker, IMO one of our most accomplished footballers of the last few years. just goes to show the beauty and diversity of the message board.

I believe Alex Walker was signed as an attacking midfielder, and on his first few appearances a very good one at that. For some reason Jim McInally decided to fix what ain't broke and started to either drop Alex Walker or move him around different positions. JM did this with several players as if he was playing some kind of game known only to himself.

Due to Alex Walker's football ability, he has managed to look solid and accomplished in any position JM tried him in, without much evidence of great appreciation from JM. To Alex's great credit, he has just quietly and professionally got on with it, without the praise lavished on one or two other of our so called utility players.

IMO Alex is an unsung hero and one of the few current or recent players who would meet what I consider to be Morton standards. Robbie Henderson was an honest trier but comes nowhere near Morton standards IMO.

I could not agree more. Hopefully he will get his chance further forward in the near future.
mortonjag 2008-09-11 07:38:07
QUOTE(king_bob @ Sep 11 2008, 07:23 AM) [snapback]510602[/snapback]
Hoping that come January we will have a creative midfielder who can drive the team and also another striker!

I certainly haven't written off Jamie Stevenson. Each time I think of the alleged conversation between him and Scott McL. re. DI and 'big' players I have a wee quiet smile-particularly after the Airdrie game.
mortonjag 2008-09-11 07:42:00
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 10 2008, 09:57 PM) [snapback]510464[/snapback]
Fools. You all know nothing about MJ. Here he is......

I am indeed he, Peter. It will take some time before this dawns on the great unwashed.

Yours Aye


Nemo.
mortonjag 2008-09-11 07:44:21 Some threads are born to be hi-jacked, some achieve hi-jacking, and some have hi-jacking thrust upon them.
mortonjag 2008-09-11 07:48:44
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 11 2008, 03:18 AM) [snapback]510588[/snapback]
A discriminating Dunooner ?

I doubt if he's ever been Inellan.
mortonjag 2008-09-11 07:51:04
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 10 2008, 11:58 PM) [snapback]510542[/snapback]
Just for alexp
A teenage girl in central India killed herself after being traumatised by media reports that a "Big Bang" experiment in Europe could bring about the end of the world, her father said.

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http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=629454

Queue jumper.
mortonjag 2008-09-11 08:04:26
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Sep 11 2008, 07:09 AM) [snapback]510601[/snapback]
Exactly, what does it all mean? I doubt that managers (who usually talk drivel dripping with arcane acronyms) know either. They would have you believe there's a difference between 'Strategic HRM' and 'Operational HRM'. On second thoughts maybe there is. Perhaps the 'strategic' version involves more meaningless meetings where even more drivel is talked. laugh.gif

I asked my partner about this-he works for a large Spanish Company called Scottish Power.

Apparently they have lots of those people. You have to go and see them if you've been off sick more than 3.78961 times in five months, and they tell you what happened in Corrie the previous night.

Oh and if you've been very, very knotty, they pretend to be sorry to give you your jotters.


My mate Fraser was a Personnel Officer in a small company on Chapelhall Industrial Estate. Fraser had a reasonably good degree from a reasonably proper University.

He was known and apparently valued by the bosses and the workforce alike-he knew all of his staff personally, and wouldn't have been seen dead carrying a clipboard.

Even in those days, I thought the concept of a 'personnel officer' smacked of superfluity-of a 'cop out' by management.

In many ways I still do.

mortonjag 2008-09-11 08:10:28
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Sep 10 2008, 10:41 PM) [snapback]510498[/snapback]
Last night I had a steak from a restaurant advertised as Italian but co-owned by a Chinese Man and a Norwegian one cool.gif
It was absolutely beautiful but miniscule.

Tonight my boss took me to a proper steak house where the steak was a mere £50, thank god I didn't take chips or veg with it !!!
Now back on topic....

I think you should make it a project of yours to find me a good woman before Chrimbo blink.gif

It's what you do with it that counts Willy Man. Maybe somebody would enjoy a chew at your miniscule steak! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-11 08:13:17
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 11 2008, 01:44 AM) [snapback]510580[/snapback]
A man walks into a bar with an octopus and says to the bartender " this is a magical octupus, it can do absolutely anything " so the barman goes " ive got a guitar in the back, if the octupus can play it i'll give you free drink all night ". So he gets the guitar and gives it to the octupus and it plays it perfectly.

The bartender is amazed and says to the man " okay i have a flute in the back aswell, if the octupus can play that then i'll give you free food all night " so he gets the flute and gives it to the octupus and it plays it perfectly.

The bartender cant believe it and then thinks he'll finally have the octupus stumped and says " i have some bagpipes in the back, if your octupus manages to play them then i will give you the keys to my bar ". Just as the man is about to accept his proposal the octupus jumps in and shouts " PLAY IT? IF YOU TAKE ITS PYJAMAS OFF I'LL f*** IT! ".

Puggs is allergic to squid-it gives him a sore arse.
mortonjag 2008-09-11 08:27:01 The Airdrie game must be put behind us. Onward and upward.

Tight game, ending 2-1 to the mighty Ton. Russell and Jenkins to score. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-11 08:31:06
QUOTE(dazed @ Sep 11 2008, 07:52 AM) [snapback]510613[/snapback]
or Kirn? smile.gif

Though I've heard he's been in Hunter's Quay many a time.
mortonjag 2008-09-11 08:34:13 Has it died a natural death?

When I was a kid there was oose in abundance.

I wonder if today's youngsters even know what it is! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-11 08:43:14 Just enquiring. Things have turned full circle in thirty odd years. When I joined my first practice in the early seventies, the other doctors (all three of them) would regularly have a fag while consulting, and not uncommonly offer one to a patient!!!

Has the danger of passive smoking (as with so many public issues) been greatly exaggerated?

Why do people give me that strange look when I have a drag outside the Scapa bogs at half time?

Fags are definitely-like many other things-bad for one.

How many of you have the baws to own up?

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mortonjag 2008-09-11 08:48:40
QUOTE(dazed @ Sep 11 2008, 08:01 AM) [snapback]510615[/snapback]
after last nights result they are back in their Lancasters and spitfires and on a mission to re establish the 'British' Empire.

Get into those Fokkers.

I presume they won last night.
mortonjag 2008-09-11 09:15:51
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Sep 11 2008, 08:48 AM) [snapback]510625[/snapback]
It's still in many peoples ears, young and old...... politicians' particularly.

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Figuratively indeed, but is real oose a thing of the past.

Is it Death by Dyson, Extermination by Electrolux, and the Homicidal Hoover?

I liked oose.

My wee brother christened it 'pluff'!
mortonjag 2008-09-11 09:18:36
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 11 2008, 09:06 AM) [snapback]510629[/snapback]
I had a lady friend once, who only had one leg.

That's why she was called Eileen.

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She'd have done well to purchase a prosthesis-though that's just a matter of a pinion.
mortonjag 2008-09-11 09:23:45
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 11 2008, 09:18 AM) [snapback]510635[/snapback]

The white handkerchief and plastic smile are a dead give away!

Bring a friend for pec etching-you know you want to.

Yours aye


Nemo.
mortonjag 2008-09-11 09:30:44
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 11 2008, 09:24 AM) [snapback]510640[/snapback]
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How cruel - would that be thread needle ?

I can't belive it could be knitting needle.

God - I loved that shop in Roxburgh Street near the station.

Both my grannies spent hours in hours in there, buying needles and wool.

I must have been 6 or 7 and the pattern called for 10 balls of wool.

I think the wool came in plastic wraps of 8 balls each ... and the dye lot on one was different to the dye lot on the other.

Quelle drama.
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Did they make you stand like a dooley with both arms apart like you were playing an imaginary accordion and wind the wool round them before making their own balls?
mortonjag 2008-09-11 09:34:11
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Sep 11 2008, 09:29 AM) [snapback]510641[/snapback]
those towers were full of dynamite and were brought down in a controlled manner.

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It wasn't true about brake failure on the planes then?
mortonjag 2008-09-11 09:36:21
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Sep 11 2008, 09:10 AM) [snapback]510630[/snapback]
The wee guy looked a box of tricks. He made the Hartlepool defence look silly a few times...before slicing the ball to no-where. Seriously, for all his skill, he didn't look like he actually could kick a ball. If he could shoot, pass or cross he'd be a great wee player.

A bit like Jimbo then?
mortonjag 2008-09-11 09:41:09
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 11 2008, 09:32 AM) [snapback]510643[/snapback]
Global warming and cooling is taking place constantly and repeatedly. The earth has been far warmer on average than it is now several times in the past, and at times when there was NO man-made CO2. The Romans used to grow grapes in Britain and far further north than can be done at present. Greenland was at one time actually green, and cores from its ice cover indicate that there were actually far higher levels of CO2 in the atmosphere at that time. We are I think coming out of the end of an ice age and that is why the earth is arguably warming, although as has been said many times there is no actual sign of warming over the last 10 years (however ten years is in any case a ludicrously short time period over which to measure temperature trends).

Our climate in Scotland in particular is in fact not so much affected by temperature of the earth as a whole but more by wind and sea current movements. Minor variations can make huge differences - our current wet summers are due to a minor change in the route of the jetstream which in summer used to head further north. These things have happened in the opast and will happen again in the future.

All this nonsense about reducing CO2 emission is as I said the new Millenium Bug. I agree totally that finite resources should be conserved - that's just common sense - but to think that trying to reduce what are miniscule amounts of CO2 in the whole scheme of things will make any difference is crazy. If the climate is changing, we need to find a way to adapt (by moving uphill for a start...). If the Maldives go under, that's a shame but just because some politicians try to blame us for causing that situation doesn't mean it's true. It is almost certainly the case that it would have happened anyway even if the human population of the earth was zero. Blaming climate change on man made carbon dioxide emissions is opportunistic. Oh, and methane is far worse as a greenhoue gas BTW.

At the moment the man-made climate change lobby has the better publicity machine. As I said, the new Millenium Bug.

So somebody should be trying to make his fortune by recycling fart.
mortonjag 2008-09-11 09:50:21
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 11 2008, 09:43 AM) [snapback]510651[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

No, mate - the Roxburgh Street shop only sold balls.

But, there were shops (the Co-op ??) that sold wool things called ... shanks ????

Then, as you reminded me, lads were ab(used) to turn them into balls.

Is that correct ?
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Yes- a wee bit like this:
mortonjag 2008-09-11 10:06:58
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 11 2008, 10:01 AM) [snapback]510659[/snapback]
naw ... very much like that.

Including the flecky wool - very big in 1963/64.

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Busty females in flecky wool jumpers, pleated skirts, seamed stockings, and high heels.
mortonjag 2008-09-11 10:11:09
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 11 2008, 10:05 AM) [snapback]510662[/snapback]
Dear Doctor,

In your professional opinion, would pec etching assist the performance of Peter Weatherson ?

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Not so much as a good kick up the arse I'm told!
mortonjag 2008-09-11 10:18:20
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Sep 11 2008, 10:15 AM) [snapback]510669[/snapback]
wouldnt class myself as a proper smoker as i dont smoke every day, and generally dont carry cigs around with me (although i used to be more of a regular smoker.)

that said, i do usually have a packet of cigarettes kicking about the flat somewhere, and sometimes if i have been on the bevvy i will feel like sparking one up. last night for example i smoked 2 i think and enjoyed them immensely. i feel no guilt about this as i hadnt smoked for about a week previous and probably wont smoke any today.

i have also experimented with some of the herbal alternatives to tobacco, with some extremely pleasing results!

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mortonjag 2008-09-11 10:20:15
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 11 2008, 10:16 AM) [snapback]510671[/snapback]
Is it 3 pm yet ?

Or is it only 10.16 am ?

10.19 a.m on my computer Newt!
mortonjag 2008-09-11 10:25:20
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 11 2008, 10:12 AM) [snapback]510667[/snapback]
Dear Doctor,

In your professional opinion, would pec etching assist the performance of Mr Donald ?

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Mr Donald Duck?
mortonjag 2008-09-11 10:31:03
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 11 2008, 10:10 AM) [snapback]510664[/snapback]
... you forgot the twin sets

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How did they get the flecks into flecky wool ?

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From flecky sheep?
mortonjag 2008-09-11 10:38:59
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 11 2008, 10:25 AM) [snapback]510682[/snapback]

Not just RSI?
mortonjag 2008-09-11 10:42:55
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 11 2008, 10:38 AM) [snapback]510703[/snapback]
I think i won't bother and just wear shoes with toes covered, not very nice here just now. Next topic please.

Is it OK to insert suppositories the wrong way round?
mortonjag 2008-09-11 10:48:00
QUOTE(centralTON @ Sep 11 2008, 10:43 AM) [snapback]510709[/snapback]
Damn........ only read this thread 'cos I thought the topic was......I Am Convicted. laugh.gif

Seriously, though, I also think we'll win 2-1.

OOOOOOOOOOH--I'll go down for you any day darling-you are my dream pipe bender!
mortonjag 2008-09-11 10:55:41
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 11 2008, 10:47 AM) [snapback]510715[/snapback]
I would have thought you might know the answer to that. ohmy.gif

I do-I wonder what others think-there are different interpretations of 'shove' and 'back passage'!
mortonjag 2008-09-11 11:03:22
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 11 2008, 10:57 AM) [snapback]510731[/snapback]
Wrong? We have been "punching below or weight" since I was about 2 years old.

...I know...Morton Chatter with this p1sh!
I'm just pointing it out...we all know your fine and dandy, no mother is safe ph34r.gif
A bit?!?! Only a bit?! You some sort of pouffe?!

Why does that ephemeral phase have any bearing on our potential?
mortonjag 2008-09-11 11:07:54
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 11 2008, 10:54 AM) [snapback]510728[/snapback]
MJ a pouffe? ohmy.gif

Only in alternate posts young man. I like to be ever so PC you know!

Anyway, the Monkey's complaining that he's tired and lonely, so I'm off for a wee snooze with him and fing! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-11 14:16:59 The Monkey perceives that this is the birthday of one of his friends, and has asked me to pass on his good wishes.
mortonjag 2008-09-11 14:21:13
QUOTE(ShimminTon @ Sep 11 2008, 12:15 PM) [snapback]510782[/snapback]
Not so sure about that Alistair. For example, he was well skinned by the Queens left-winger on Sunday before Chris Smith made that superb tackle to clear the danger. smile.gif

Agreed-Alex is only playing at full back as a compromise-he hasn't the turn of speed to deal with a 'flyer'.

Best as an attacking midfielder.
mortonjag 2008-09-11 14:27:41
QUOTE(ShimminTon @ Sep 11 2008, 12:06 PM) [snapback]510772[/snapback]
For once we agree MJ. It had to happen sometime I suppose! wub.gif

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Just you keep agreeing with old Jaggy and you'll go places you never dreamed of! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-11 14:30:23
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 11 2008, 11:19 AM) [snapback]510754[/snapback]
What could you possibly be implying MJ?? laugh.gif

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I loved the bit that said, 'Behind every referee there's a good woman'.

The Rev McCurry version would need two words replaced.
mortonjag 2008-09-11 14:35:08
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 11 2008, 12:13 PM) [snapback]510779[/snapback]
The wool factories used to employ people to flick small quantities of paint at the white wool as it passed through a special machine, a troublesome piece of equipment that kept breaking down, and known as a flecking machine due to a typo when someone accidentally hit the "L" key by accident. The wee spots of paint gave the wool its flecky appearance.

Just as blacksmiths etc gave rise to the surname Smith, Fleckers gave rise to the surname Fleck.

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mortonjag 2008-09-11 14:40:07
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 11 2008, 01:15 PM) [snapback]510816[/snapback]
That is the proverbial 6 million dollar question mate. What do you normallly do?

GAY or POUFFE
mortonjag 2008-09-11 15:48:59 That's a complete bummer of a draw. Ross County will have a decent home support. Everything against us I'm afraid.
mortonjag 2008-09-11 16:02:52
QUOTE(briggsTON @ Sep 11 2008, 02:38 PM) [snapback]510856[/snapback]
What was your prediction for Airdrie ?



This: blush.gif


Airdrie beating Hearts was a bigger result than our beating Hibs (unless you think Airdrie are much better than us).

They will be full of confidence and so will we. I honestly can't split the two.




QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Sep 11 2008, 02:48 PM) [snapback]510860[/snapback]
A positive thread/post - I would never have thought it possible.

I'll celebrate by undoing my ignore function rolleyes.gif , and say that if this (previously unwinnable) fixture turns out well, my faith in the current management team shall be fully restored. wink.gif

What a p***k you are. I'm always positive about forthcoming matches! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-11 16:09:20
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Sep 11 2008, 12:30 PM) [snapback]510791[/snapback]
Even if his contract is running out, we'd have to pay compensation anyway. Not getting my hopes up. sad.gif
I can see Stevenson signing a pre-contract with Alloa in January, or even us just letting him go for free there and then. I think his Morton career's over.

And that conversation definitely happened.

And were they miles from the truth?

Maybe Jamie's Morton career is over. He's still a far more creative footballer than anything we saw at Palmerston before Jenkins came on.
mortonjag 2008-09-11 16:20:23
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 11 2008, 03:09 PM) [snapback]510869[/snapback]
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Cherry Stone is blossoming.
mortonjag 2008-09-11 16:26:17 It seems to me that the truth is being adulterated by two opposing lobbies with diverse interests.

If you want to believe in global warming, there is plenty of 'conclusive' evidence, AND vice versa!

It always amuses me when our intelligent posters align with the theory which best suits their own agenda.


I believe things are hotter than they were and I blame Douglas Rae.
mortonjag 2008-09-11 16:46:11
QUOTE(suda @ Sep 11 2008, 01:22 PM) [snapback]510823[/snapback]
Is that the guy that was man of the match against Hibs?

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Indeed, and the guy who's done very little else all season!
mortonjag 2008-09-11 16:52:38
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 11 2008, 04:39 PM) [snapback]510946[/snapback]
i think he was being sarcastic, old timer. Sarcasm is something that was invented in 1984 by an irish fishwife. Read up on it, theres a whole new world out there, just waiting to be discovered. smile.gif

and yes, i nearly did break into song singing a whole new world from Alladin.

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If only-he has 'previous'-Mortonjag knows the sheep and the goats-a must when you're off on holiday darling. wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-11 16:54:57
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 11 2008, 04:42 PM) [snapback]510948[/snapback]
I'll be much better this time! As long as im in Franks team, i think he could break me in two to be fair. Maybe two of me would actually be decent infact.

I'm having your bottom half.
mortonjag 2008-09-11 16:59:50
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 11 2008, 01:59 PM) [snapback]510841[/snapback]
Because you'd think that in 20 years we would have matched our potential!

Morton chatter for this p1sh though!

If big Gillian took a fancy to Kylie, Morton's fortunes might coincidentally improve.
mortonjag 2008-09-11 17:06:28
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 11 2008, 01:22 PM) [snapback]510822[/snapback]
An unwelcome reminder of what a thoroughly unpleasant man MJ is, this thread.

Ton in Dublin explained the matter very clearly.

Truth is Smegma that your distaste for this gentle old soul has distorted any reason you ever had.

I'd hasten to add that I'd have 100 ThornTONs to one of you any day.....

and I'd offer to replace his skirting boards for free. cool.gif

mortonjag 2008-09-11 17:59:34
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 11 2008, 05:32 PM) [snapback]510972[/snapback]
It's nothing to do with what you said about ThornTON and everything to do with what followed.

In your sweet little head! You're in the wrong place son, and your despicable innuendo won't cut any ice. The Jessie boys were set up precisely to avoid this sort of nonsense.

If you want to pursue your personal grudge, Smeggy, I suggest you stick with the rest of the weasels on the Big Mod's forums.


mortonjag 2008-09-11 18:04:28
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 11 2008, 05:51 PM) [snapback]510981[/snapback]
Ah, of course. I thought it was late 2002... I'd have remembered us playing them twice in the same season, though. blush.gif . Aye. Anyway, Alex Williams. Aye.

Do you make lots of mistakes Smegma?
mortonjag 2008-09-11 18:10:48
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 11 2008, 05:50 PM) [snapback]510980[/snapback]
We're moving from a Little Ice Age to a Warm Period, similar to that of the Roman era and the Medieval Warm period.
In the grander scheme of things it's only a matter of time before the next big glacial event...

We shouldn't allow the Luddite minorities within various eco-groups dictate and hinder the progress of civilisation: perhaps they ought to be carbon-neutralised themselves?




Careful........
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mortonjag 2008-09-11 18:19:44
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 11 2008, 06:13 PM) [snapback]510989[/snapback]
Oh you're back on your fishing trip again, care to provide evidence to support your claims? happy.gif

Don't be a silly child-I just ring the warning bell every time you come over as-----well a sparrot.

Which claims in particular are you referring to? I've remained entirely neutral on this issue.
mortonjag 2008-09-11 18:46:45
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 11 2008, 06:22 PM) [snapback]510993[/snapback]
Look back over the thread and see if I offered any comment - negative or otherwise - on what you said about ThornTON's injury.

If you can't take the heat of what I'm saying then perhaps it's you that's in the wrong place. Or you could just hit the huff button. biggrin.gif

There is no heat in what you are saying. The calor is in an apparently sad and pathologically jealous obsession with Mortonjag.

It would appear that your unreasonable fervour is matched only by your lack of self awareness. Could that be why nobody ever seems to relate to you on the forums?

A sad isolated little boy with GENUINE issues over a daft old fud who's largely on 'the wind up'! laugh.gif

If Mortonjag wasn't such a stubborn old c*nt he'd ignore the viperous sniping of psychologically disturbed children.



mortonjag 2008-09-11 19:59:42
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 11 2008, 06:26 PM) [snapback]510995[/snapback]
Well, MJ has been oblivious to the outside world since 1983 so that explains why he doesn't have a scooby what sarcasm is. rolleyes.gif

Your wit is scintillating.
mortonjag 2008-09-11 20:15:21
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Sep 11 2008, 07:31 PM) [snapback]511023[/snapback]
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Here we go again. That nugget that produced Loose Change has a lot to answer for. Tell me, when you carried out your wee experiment on what temp steel melts at did you take into account an airliner slamming into the structure at 500mph? Thought not.

I posted a website on here ages ago that debunked all the ludicrous theories like the "buildings should have fell to the side", will try and find it.
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You two are wired to the moon. There's absolutely no doubt that the towers were brought down by the planes hitting them, to suggest the US Government bombed their own buildings is delusional, imo.

I used to be on the side of the conspiracists but Popular Mechanics explained a lot to me.

I agree.

The problem with the 'conspiracy' mentality is that they know what they want to believe before they even think about how to twist the available evidence. It was inevitable that umpteen opportunists would capitalise on their gullibility with a load of fanciful claptrap.

I'm no lover of U.S. politics, and I fully believe they will go to inordinate lengths to achieve their aims, without the need to devastate their own people in the process.
mortonjag 2008-09-11 20:27:30
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 11 2008, 06:43 PM) [snapback]511002[/snapback]
You appear to be claiming that I'm directly or indirectly copying or plagiarising phrases.
I suggest you find evidence to support this - or do you simply not give people the credit they may or may not deserve?

Really.

Remember

Sponge-how much original research have you done into the topic?

Parrot-portraying ideas as though they are original when in fact they are regurgitated.

Do you talk with your friends in the linguistic style you used in the post I cautioned you on?

Here's a wee tip:

I believe that........., because I have weighed up the available evidence. In particular I'd like to cite the conclusions of..........who argues that.......... on the basis of................. etc., etc.


mortonjag 2008-09-11 20:31:08
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Sep 11 2008, 08:01 PM) [snapback]511037[/snapback]
To be fair mate, you've been a bit of a Doctor Doom all season. laugh.gif

AND needs a bloody shave.
mortonjag 2008-09-11 20:32:17
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 11 2008, 08:02 PM) [snapback]511038[/snapback]
That's better. smile.gif

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mortonjag 2008-09-11 20:47:29
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 11 2008, 08:35 PM) [snapback]511051[/snapback]
I don't need to answer to the likes of you, Douglas.
I know being able to form an independent opinion must seem unfathomable to you when trying to pass water independently is your single greatest challenge, but you ought to broaden your mindset.

Of course you don't.

I was trying to be helpful. I've never suggested that you are incapable of forming your own opinion on the basis of others' research. That's perfectly legitimate, especially for youngsters who have little personal experience to cite.

All I ask is that you stop presenting your conclusions in a grandiose manner, and without reference to your sources.

I'd also suggest that you substantiate your allegation regarding my micturition. I have been able to self catheterise for many years, and can still do the Herald crossword in an average of 14 minutes.
mortonjag 2008-09-11 20:51:49
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Sep 11 2008, 08:38 PM) [snapback]511054[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-09-11 20:58:49
QUOTE(Deego @ Sep 11 2008, 08:46 PM) [snapback]511059[/snapback]
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My Bebo is very large, how do I get it small again? Thingied something on the keyboard and fannied itself up.

I'm not good with words.


Priapism (Ancient Greek: πριαπισμός) is a potentially harmful and painful medical condition in which the erect penis does not return to its flaccid state, despite the absence of both physical and psychological stimulation, within four hours. Priapism is considered a medical emergency, which should receive proper treatment by a qualified medical practitioner.
mortonjag 2008-09-12 06:59:58 It's unpleasant to witness anybody losing his mental faculties.

Perhaps the one thing which mitigates slightly is that the sufferer often appears completely content in a world of his own. That was certainly the case with Billy McPhail whom I met several times, and with numerous non footballers I've treated.

The illness is a hell for loved ones, who in my opinion often fail to receive much support or understanding from our Health and Social Services.
mortonjag 2008-09-12 07:11:02
QUOTE(Davie @ Sep 11 2008, 01:18 PM) [snapback]510819[/snapback]
Gidday NewTon,
it must be only you who remembers when Morton played in an all white strip with blue and white hooped socks, judging by the lack of replies to your truly boring topic.
Tell me, who was the Ton's fourth top scorer in the season 63/64? I have been trying to remember all morning but it has simply been forgotton.
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The tried and tested 'make my infantile peers titter by slaggin' off an 'oldie' routine.

Coming from somebody who freely admits to driving a 1.2 litre Fiat Punto, that's a tad amusing.

Anyway Newt, you have to feel sorry for the kids-they've never seen decent football at Cappielow, and it's no surprise they are so easily bored.
mortonjag 2008-09-12 07:15:45
QUOTE(Trick37 @ Sep 11 2008, 09:56 PM) [snapback]511093[/snapback]
I'd give you a strange look, too, if I saw you doing that in public.

Fag. laugh.gif

I usually have a couple of fags when I'm at Cappielow-it helps to relieve the built up tension.

Deego and port ton are extremely obliging young men.
mortonjag 2008-09-12 07:29:53
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 11 2008, 10:47 PM) [snapback]511108[/snapback]
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Even with blindfold I would be able to tell a lovely succulent botty that kylie has from the ubiqutious, and frequently desecrated by myself batchelor boy, botty of Sir Cliff

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mortonjag 2008-09-12 07:47:20
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 11 2008, 09:05 PM) [snapback]511072[/snapback]
Perhaps you, Douglas, would care to expand as to why personal experience would be relevant to this specific issue?
Unfortunately for yourself concise scientific data for climate is available for the last 150 years - which I'm willing to wager is longer than you have walked this earth - hence rendering personal experience a negligible issue.
The case of global warming is based upon science and data, not personal experience.

So all I (presently) ask is that you stop being so condescending to those who are, well, not yourself.
As for your other "issue", my sources are impeccable. blush.gif

As you very well know I made no such assertion. I merely opined that in general, youngsters with little personal experience to cite, may legitimately study and form opinions from the experiences of their elders.

That is in fact the commonest method of obtaining intelligence and growing in wisdom. Those who are already smart enough to respect and learn from their elders and betters thumbup2.gif, automatically gain a jump start over peers who take years to, and sometimes never shake off the inappropriate arrogance of youth.
mortonjag 2008-09-12 07:52:02 Do they look smug or what!
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Looks like Bawheid's just let one drop!
mortonjag 2008-09-12 08:30:04
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 12 2008, 07:54 AM) [snapback]511175[/snapback]
Well, they do look more smug than the old bloke in your avatar.

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Is he your father ?

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That is physiologically entirely possible.
mortonjag 2008-09-12 08:31:58
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 11 2008, 11:07 PM) [snapback]511116[/snapback]
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Wise move Deego, I was 3 lines into it and almost lapsed into a coma.

Are you in hibernation?
mortonjag 2008-09-12 08:51:49
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Sep 12 2008, 07:02 AM) [snapback]511163[/snapback]
Well I wouldn't know cos I've never read your posts.* happy.gif
(*except the bits that other folk have quoted)

I will not resort to using sweary insults - the tool of a weak mind.

More crap from the mind of a weak tool! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-12 08:56:51
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 12 2008, 07:43 AM) [snapback]511167[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

I wonder if they know why there were no crossbars at Cappielow in 1874 ?

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In those days the Chairman arrived fresh from his sweetie factory, resplendent in Victorian attire and perched precariously on his 1.2 litre Punto Farting.
mortonjag 2008-09-12 09:02:55
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 12 2008, 08:40 AM) [snapback]511182[/snapback]
I don't remember a list....did it include- female with a pulse? unsure.gif

...or just 'any available orifice'!
mortonjag 2008-09-12 09:08:08
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 12 2008, 08:44 AM) [snapback]511183[/snapback]
Disgusting habit. rip.gif

Most people find habits of which they disapprove, 'disgusting'! laugh.gif

Things like:

Homosexuality
Paedophilia
Bestiality
Incest
Nose picking
Farting
Eating with open mouth
Supporting the OF
Chewing gum
Spitting out chewing gum
Pissing on the toilet seat


and hunners more.
mortonjag 2008-09-12 09:14:04
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 12 2008, 09:08 AM) [snapback]511194[/snapback]
I will probably do both but it depends on how I am feeling after the first. Its a long drive there and back in a day but the league game can at least be broken up by an overnight stay on the Saturday.

424 mile round trip according to Google (from Wemyss bay!)

RAC predicts four hours from Glasgow. I'm reckoning on about £75 for petrol for the return journey. I might just consider it if my brother's willing to split the cost, but as you say, it's a long journey.

I'm still smarting from that horrible drive home after the play off at Peterhead. ph34r.gif

GRRRRRRRR-J Muppet!
mortonjag 2008-09-12 09:17:07
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 12 2008, 09:01 AM) [snapback]511187[/snapback]
Jimmy Wilson

Don't make me cry-Wakey and Russell would have a field day if we had him instead of Jimbo-AND he could cut inside and score with BOTH feet.
mortonjag 2008-09-12 09:24:54
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 12 2008, 09:05 AM) [snapback]511191[/snapback]
Apparently Queens are missing quite a lot of players. Sean O'Connor is still out, as are Bob Harris, Jamie Adams (long term again), Gary Arbuckle and Neil Scally. Jim Thomson may be ok to play. O'Connor is the biggest loss for Queens as without him they have little physical presence up front and that vastly reduces Dobbie's effectiveness as was seen last weekend. O'Connor is a great player to watch, great control for a big bloke, and I think his absence will make our defence's job a lot easier. That's not a carte blanche for them to give a gone missing performance a la Airdrie...

I know you don't get to a large number of matches Alibi.

What has distressed me for the last two seasons is the abysmal home support. When we're away, we all bunch together and generally give the team good vocal backing throughout-and you can quite clearly see them respond to it.

At home the cowshed hardly EVER sings, and only livens up for five minutes or so after we score a rare goal. I'm not the only one who has remarked on it. It would be tremendous if the crowd really COULD get behind the boys from the kick off tomorrow. That would focus their minds. This game is entirely winnable.
mortonjag 2008-09-12 10:15:12 to Trumpton.

You are getting older! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-12 10:48:45
QUOTE(Davie @ Sep 12 2008, 10:05 AM) [snapback]511209[/snapback]
Do me a favour - if you see me driving it in the near future, please do not hesitate in walking in front of the car. wub.gif



I shall keep a special look out for bored young men in Fiat Puntos! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-12 10:51:15
QUOTE(dazed @ Sep 12 2008, 10:26 AM) [snapback]511222[/snapback]
Are you two calling each other tools?? smile.gif surely that should be weapons? laugh.gif

Leave Mortonjag's weapon out of this please.
mortonjag 2008-09-12 11:24:41
QUOTE(Davie @ Sep 12 2008, 11:14 AM) [snapback]511247[/snapback]
I'm unsure where you are pulling this 'bored' malarky from, you old coffin dodger, but it is very untrue.

I have numerous things to keep me going, such as long walks in the rain.

smile.gif

You described Newt's post (which has stimulated many reminiscences by true Ton fans) as 'boring'.

I thought your post was as dismissive and ageist as your current effort!

If I can dodge coffins, I'll certainly have no bother dodging 1.2l Fiat Puntos which move more slowly if indeed they deign to start! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-12 12:04:28
QUOTE(TheGreatestEver @ Sep 12 2008, 11:55 AM) [snapback]511272[/snapback]
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thats right 'cos us kids have never seen any decent fitba at scapa, get real ya old fart, as skinner and baddiel used to say 'old football was crap'

How dare you describe Mortonjag as old!

You've NEVER seen the likes of the Ton in the 60's and 70's.

You never will 'cos modern football's been totally spoiled by money, formations, and prima donna POUFFES masquerading as real men.
mortonjag 2008-09-12 14:23:32
QUOTE(pgmsc @ Sep 12 2008, 01:21 PM) [snapback]511323[/snapback]
At the end of the season Morton did away with there pro youth teams which played in the SFA youth Initiative set up. At the same time they combined both the U13 & U14 teams to create an u15 team to play in the Glasgow & District youth league. The reason given for this was that they did not met the criteria set out by the SFA.The Criteria has not changed but the club adopted a head in the sand approach to it I attended a few meetings in relation to this which were chaired by the Director with responsability for overseeing the youth.The 1st meeting held was about this time last year at which Jim Mcinally Gillian Donaldson and Jim McColl were all in attendance. The club stated that there were in the process of overseeing the youth set up .

When Davie and Derek came on board they where shocked at how poor the youth set up was hence why the chairman announced in the programme around March that Derek had been put in charge of the youth set and changes were to take place. with this season the club would be running pro youth teams at 14.14 17's and a full time u 19's sadly this did not happen.

The result of this has seen boys leave being pick up by other pro youth teams with My own Son being one of them . He has moved to a club that are smaller than Morton however have invested in the youth which has seen them bring boys into the 1st team and also manage to sell the on to bigger clubs.The club have a full time youth development officer with all coaches got there level 4 coaches badge mandatory to meet SFA requirments . they run a community coaching programme along with teams at 12,13,14,15 & 17's with a full time u19's

At present out of the 5 youth coaches at Morton only 2 have level 4 James Doherty and Chalky .If the club do manage to re-enter the SFA youth set up where will the players come from as they have no scouts and nothing to offer up and coming boys hence why boys head off to other clubs outwith the area.

I have followed Morton since the late 60's Bobby Collins and all and have brought my Son up likewise even though I have only spent 6 months of my life in the area so to see my son sign for them was great and even better for him .

Sorry for ramble guys could go on about the set up but no point until the heads come up from the sand there will be no change.



This old chestnut keeps coming up, and every time it does, guys like yourself who seem to be in the know, present a worrying picture of what appears to be more papering over cracks.

I thought things were much better now-that's certainly the way it's been spun.

What's really going on?


mortonjag 2008-09-12 14:31:02
QUOTE(TheGreatestEver @ Sep 12 2008, 01:28 PM) [snapback]511327[/snapback]
my apologies, mature then

1st ton game was 1979, not 1879 like yourself so get it up you

prima donnas? did that nonsense not start in the 70's? i mean who could foget all those 'real men' with they're curly perms laugh.gif

Well you DID mention 'us kids'!

I think football died a death the day men started dressing as women. In that respect I agree with you.

Had you been able to start watching even ten years earlier, your memories would be ever so much more enjoyable.
mortonjag 2008-09-12 14:35:39
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 12 2008, 12:29 PM) [snapback]511291[/snapback]
I like the way you finish that with a kiss. wub.gif

It's more of a sooking slurping noise I think.
mortonjag 2008-09-12 14:40:55
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 12 2008, 02:00 PM) [snapback]511355[/snapback]
No fags should be smoked in the main stand blink.gif

I can assure you young man that I enjoy a couple of fags every time I'm at Cappielow, and indeed I sit in the main stand to watch the football.
mortonjag 2008-09-12 14:47:36
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Sep 12 2008, 02:04 PM) [snapback]511357[/snapback]
Alternatively, if your true contentment comes just before the money shot, then you need to practice getting on and off the bus when you start to feel the vinegar strokes.

A good way to help you with this is either of the two following ;

1) just as you're approaching Ticklers Brook, imagine you're about to launch yourself over a hurdle and just as you feel you're about to baste her bastion, stick your finger up your own arse sharply whilst thinking to yourself "why would I have thought she'd have liked that" nb - always ensure you haven't been baking a log before attempting this - unless she has brown sheets.

2) once again, as you get to Ticklers Brook, try and remember the names of all seven dwarves. From painful and humiliating personal experience can I tell you for definite that there isn't a "Comey". He always turned up in my list somewhere, kinda like "Dopey ..... Sleepy ....... Happy .......Comey ......ah f*** ...... "

Again, your welcome.

TonInDublin



QUOTE(Boozehound @ Sep 12 2008, 02:16 PM) [snapback]511361[/snapback]
Not bad suggestions but I find that looking at her face and recognising the familiar look of disappointment usually does the trick for me.




laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


Happiness is a cigar called Hamlet

Contentment is a five minute bang up any old c*nt.


COME, COME gentlemen, if this topic must involve erections, have a read of W.B.Yeats.

I will arise and go now, and go to Innisfree,
And a small cabin build there, of clay and wattles made;
Nine bean rows will I have there, a hive for the honey bee,
And live alone in the bee-loud glade.............


and the rest! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-12 15:03:10
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 12 2008, 11:28 AM) [snapback]511258[/snapback]
How do you know that time actually flows in the direction that it appears to? It is possible that we perceive the whole thing back to front and we are actually getting younger every day.

....and death is in fact birth!
mortonjag 2008-09-12 15:06:58 Mr Mason said yesterday: �€œThe repeated attacks on the SNP's Councillor Hanif are coming across as thinly disguised racism. Many countries in the world allow guns to be used freely. These include the United States, Israel and Pakistan.



All I can say to that is 'Drop dead'.
mortonjag 2008-09-12 15:14:35
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 12 2008, 03:07 PM) [snapback]511381[/snapback]
Or in some people's view, when you end up getting syphoned up 9 months later, so to speak.

smile.gif

Anyway, the point of my thread was that it's Trumpton's birthday.


HAPPY BIRTHDAY TRUMPTON!
mortonjag 2008-09-12 15:23:28 I'm sure the Ton would drag along a good 5000 plus.

What I'D like to know is where they will all be tomorrow afternoon and why?

I keep telling them to bring a friend, and they don't!
mortonjag 2008-09-12 15:38:35
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 12 2008, 03:13 PM) [snapback]511383[/snapback]
ONE of it's main assets rolleyes.gif

Labour have no credible leader, or leaders in waiting. Neither do the Lib-Dems. The Tories have a salesman in Cameron then have a dearth of talent.
At least the SNP have Sturgeon waiting in the wings should something happen to our glorious leader.



BRAINLESS BEARDED BI-SEXUAL-AYE RIGHT SPURTLE
mortonjag 2008-09-12 15:48:40
QUOTE(pgmsc @ Sep 12 2008, 03:27 PM) [snapback]511388[/snapback]
It is all true and as I said could go on the set up is a shambles

I attended a few meetings in relation to this which were chaired by the Director with responsability for overseeing the youth.The 1st meeting held was about this time last year at which Jim Mcinally Gillian Donaldson and Jim McColl were all in attendance. The club stated that there were in the process of overseeing the youth set up .


Are you telling me that apart from his functions within the privacy of the Trust's inner sanctum, Mr McColl has been delegated this duty BY THE CLUB?
mortonjag 2008-09-12 16:00:08
QUOTE(pgmsc @ Sep 12 2008, 03:56 PM) [snapback]511403[/snapback]
Don't go there MJ i'm a usually a calm man but get angry with people who think that they hold positions of power

I was just thinking that as Mr McColl is a member of our forum, it might not be unreasonable for someone-preferably not myself-to ask if he could let the fans know how things are progressing.
mortonjag 2008-09-12 16:04:18
QUOTE(centralTON @ Sep 12 2008, 03:55 PM) [snapback]511402[/snapback]
Weegie, we'll need to think of a place that'll let kids in, we usually go to the Ashoka in Ashton Lane, but, dunno if you fancy that?

I'd not dream of taking kids there Central-they might catch a glimpse of Mr Lennon.
mortonjag 2008-09-12 16:10:08
QUOTE(pgmsc @ Sep 12 2008, 04:04 PM) [snapback]511410[/snapback]
When questioned at the last meeting what his position was he concided that it was more of a liason role than anything else as he know nothing about coaching or youth football

Sounds like the classical description of a 'fall guy' to me.

I'd really much prefer if others would ask some pertinent questions about this-people who have youngsters involved, or who could be involved-people who are closer to the coal face than I am.

I can only see it from afar, and it's obvious we'll have no sound foundation on which to build until an active youth programme is up and running.
mortonjag 2008-09-12 16:17:38
QUOTE(pgmsc @ Sep 12 2008, 04:14 PM) [snapback]511414[/snapback]
Been at meetings said my piece spoke to DC said my piece spoke to members of the trust said my piece my boy has moved on over to others

I hope you were not accused of sh1t stirring for daring to ask! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-12 18:10:36
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 12 2008, 04:49 PM) [snapback]511435[/snapback]
Betters?
Douglas Rae, expert in climatology?

I find it a bit rich to take lessons on arrogance by the closest definition of the word to be found on the site.
Or is it okay for some to be arrogant, but not others?

Indeed-much better at almost everything-just as you will hopefully be relative to somebody 40 years your junior in four decades' time.

That's the way it works my boy-it's not intended in any way to be insulting.

Some might suggest that 'rookies' who object to the concept of experienced folk being better than them, are....erm...arrogant. I think 'insecure' is more apt in your particular case. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-12 18:14:10
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 12 2008, 05:41 PM) [snapback]511454[/snapback]
aye, it is a shame....... rolleyes.gif


You can't hide what's inside. Spurtle's willie is two feet long!
mortonjag 2008-09-12 18:19:21
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 12 2008, 04:58 PM) [snapback]511440[/snapback]
No, I'm a simple Cliff fan that's all.

Going by your lack of respect as a newcomer to the forum by instantly insulting other forum members. Also for using the word "nutso" I'm going to say you are about 12 or 13 years of age. So you won't know who Sir Cliff is.
Both myself and mortonjag share a love for Cliff and his music. We go to all his concerts together and have all his CD's and lots of Cliff t-shirts.

We love him !!

It's a three way thing really-our motto is 'form a circle'.
mortonjag 2008-09-12 18:49:37
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 12 2008, 05:56 PM) [snapback]511462[/snapback]
Oh great, yet another thread dedicated to MJ. That'll keep is over-inflated ego massaged for another wee while. rolleyes.gif

And WTF is it doing on here anyway - surely if his disciples want to w**k themselves into a stupor over his pearls of wisdom it should at lease be done on the 'General Nonsense' board.

Be my guest Geordie me lad-they're more shrivelled than last time.

I hope you're not too disappointed. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-12 19:06:28
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 12 2008, 06:17 PM) [snapback]511474[/snapback]
Big Blue Balls is back. rolleyes.gif

Indeed! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-12 19:15:10
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Sep 12 2008, 06:42 PM) [snapback]511486[/snapback]
Nothing like a good old moan and since this situation has been with us as long as no left sided player or the lack of proper fullbacks it can be classed as a long term problem .

I'm led to believe that JM was more or less allowed to get on with it and blew the money on squad players.

I understand that DI/DC have been handed the remit of sorting out the youth squad, but on what basis?

If they merely have a global budget, they will automatically look to today rather than the future. Managers are, after all, 'ships that pass in the night'.

If the Club really cares about the future, a proper business plan should be formulated with adequate funding allocated to each area of development NOW.

I doubt if the Club has the resources to do that at present-I don't know.

It would be nice to know either way.
mortonjag 2008-09-12 19:22:41
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 12 2008, 05:58 PM) [snapback]511464[/snapback]
I will be going with number three son. If you would like a ride in a nice French motor it could be arranged.

PS two spare seats!

Thanks for the offer. It's more or less a case of go or don't for us-the time factor as much as anything. I'll get a definite yes or no from David tomorrow. If we ARE going I could let you offer your spare seats elsewhere, and we'd have two also for any intrepid fools! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-12 19:27:10
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 12 2008, 07:12 PM) [snapback]511494[/snapback]
Aye - he couldn't help taking his work home with him though. Why he even wallpapered his hall through his letterbox.

Any more cheek and I'll take your tonsils out through your arse. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-12 19:32:53
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 12 2008, 06:39 PM) [snapback]511485[/snapback]
...but are you smoking them or simply toying with them for later on?

You are being obtuse and confusing me in the process.

I smoke cigarettes at Cappielow.

I plan to smoke a couple of fags in my cellar as I'm tired of salmon and kipper. I may kill them first.
mortonjag 2008-09-12 19:47:06
QUOTE(big blue eyes @ Sep 12 2008, 07:43 PM) [snapback]511503[/snapback]
Are you really a woman?
Swearing is usually beneath my dingity-but feck off old man. mad.gif

F*ck off young man-you're not NEARLY as bright as you think! happy.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-12 19:54:03
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 12 2008, 07:47 PM) [snapback]511509[/snapback]
Then they usually marry you. rolleyes.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

.....and use up all your MUNNY making you work harder and harder and harder as the shagging becomes less frequent and the bills mount, and then when the sprogs are sorted out they divorce you and leave you homeless, penniless, and with no self esteem as they spend YOUR munny on some hugely endowed toyboy and leave you to rot. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-12 19:59:17
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 12 2008, 07:48 PM) [snapback]511511[/snapback]
Did you hear about the Irish gynecologist? He hated his colleagues but kept at it cos his patients were a good craic.

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mortonjag 2008-09-12 20:00:34
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 12 2008, 07:39 PM) [snapback]511501[/snapback]
any more of your cheek and ill put my tonsils in yours!

The term is testicles.
mortonjag 2008-09-12 20:40:25
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 12 2008, 08:10 PM) [snapback]511520[/snapback]
offtopic.gif laugh.gif
Anyway, we'll spank the Queens 2-0. smile.gif

Spank the Queen's what!!! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-12 20:42:56
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 12 2008, 07:55 PM) [snapback]511516[/snapback]
You know it as well. wink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-09-12 22:04:52
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 12 2008, 08:55 PM) [snapback]511535[/snapback]
Or, on the other hand, 'deluded' applies to yourself. laugh.gif

Goodnight my angel.

mortonjag 2008-09-13 08:22:28 When we were top of the third division, the pre match build up threads used to buzz, and sometimes there were two or three running at one time.

OK-I know we're the bottom of the pile in the league, but we've just humped Hibs and Queens in the two Cup ties. It's not as if we're utterly useless and guaranteed relegation.

There's just no real interest in the Ton right now-everything seems to be 'hanging in the balance' and no information ever comes from the Club.

It's going to be a miserable dull day today, and I'm fully expecting to have my spirits lifted by a fine victory.

That doesn't alter the fact that the damage has been done, and until Rae packs it in, it's not going to get much better. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-13 08:41:39
QUOTE(centralTON @ Sep 12 2008, 11:33 PM) [snapback]511581[/snapback]
MJ, it will be lunch-time, not sure if Mr. Lennon drinks that early.

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I'm just afraid the kids see him-drunk OR sober!
mortonjag 2008-09-13 08:56:21
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 13 2008, 08:39 AM) [snapback]511649[/snapback]
Give it a rest and just enjoy the game today. smile.gif

Thanks for the advice-it's good to know that at least you care for me, but I'm quite capable of enjoying the game without putting on blinkers.

It seems to me that irrespective of the underlying cause, the fans are now getting no more than they deserve.

What do you think? mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-13 10:36:42
QUOTE(Last Boat Home @ Sep 13 2008, 10:01 AM) [snapback]511661[/snapback]
I thought you were a Morton fan have you got the team you deserve mellow.gif

The chairman, the board, potential board members, referees, various players, the grounds man, the trust, the website, any poster that dares to have a differing opinion and now your fellow fans.

Surely that�€™s you got the full set and you can now retire happy in the knowledge that you have slagged off everyone connected with GMFC and proved yourself a vastly superior human being dry.gif

Me - I am looking forward to the game and gagging for a result like last week cool.gif

I wouldn't exactly say I'm 'gagging' for a result like last week's, though I've already made it clear that I fully expect a victory.

I certainly regard myself as superior to apparently educated posters who demean themselves by using totally inappropriate expressions.

I don't exactly see my fellow fans 'gagging' for results-they have been 'dropping off like flies'.

Have you noticed that, or are you too busy flogging the dead horse that is attempting to ridicule Mortonjag's legitimate criticisms of the status quo?

I don't really expect an intelligent answer.

Go on-surprise me.

I'm gagging for a surprise from the Cowal Cynic. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-13 12:03:09
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 13 2008, 10:47 AM) [snapback]511668[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
Keep your thoughts on the Quo to the thread already running in General Nonsense. wink.gif

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QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 13 2008, 11:07 AM) [snapback]511674[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-09-13 12:14:55
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 13 2008, 10:50 AM) [snapback]511669[/snapback]
For sometime now the other two members of the triumvirate of grumpiness have held forth with the view that socialism with a big stick for scroungers is the way forward. (My apologies chaps if I have traduced you.)

The view is spreading.

This wheelchair socialism has sucked the Centre Left into spending people's taxes on unproductive causes, and associating itself with failure rather than success. Nietzsche characterised the driving Christian ethic thus: “It lived on distress...” H.L.Mencken added: “God is the immemorial refuge of the incompetent, the helpless, the miserable. They find not only sanctuary in His arms, but also a kind of superiority, soothing to their macerated egos; He will set them above their betters.”


I'm not exactly sure what the author means by 'wheelchair socialism', but I get his drift! laugh.gif

mortonjag 2008-09-13 13:30:47
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 13 2008, 12:26 PM) [snapback]511706[/snapback]
Already a thread on this: not like MJ to copy topics for the sake of personal spite and his craving for attention, is it? rolleyes.gif



The only other applicable thread was started two days ago my little one-----voici:





post Sep 11 2008, 08:27 AM
Post #1


mortonjag
*****


The Airdrie game must be put behind us. Onward and upward.

Tight game, ending 2-1 to the mighty Ton. Russell and Jenkins to score. smile.gif


You will note that it was full of positivity and good cheer.

Mortonjag has no objection to others starting threads of their own. Indeed he willingly contributes to add to their value.

En passant, Mortonjag notes that when not plagiarising his big books, little SPURTLE is frequently an imperceptive, and overly judgemental child.

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mortonjag 2008-09-13 18:33:54 IMHO Smith has the makings of the best left back we've had for some time, and at least showed a wee bit of vision at times unlike our non existent midfield.
mortonjag 2008-09-13 18:38:33
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 13 2008, 05:35 PM) [snapback]511818[/snapback]
What summed it up was when Jenkins flicked a header forward to nobody - Wake was level with the QOS defence (understandably) and Russel/Jim were out wide.

Surely Jenks knew that of the three midfielders he was the most advanced, so what the heck was he playing at?

I'm find with deep defending when it's total backs to the wall stuff, but QOS had enough men withdrawn that the ball was just going back to them, so it wasn't even an effective way of defending.

The fact that guys like McGuffie seem to have an aversion to covering ground doesn't help.

unsure.gif

Our man of the match in the first half-popped up all over the place and looked like the only player with a bloody clue. Don't be fooled by his apparently lazy loping style-see the end product.
mortonjag 2008-09-14 08:41:36
QUOTE(e_f @ Sep 13 2008, 04:32 PM) [snapback]511782[/snapback]
Why don't we have players like that?!

Because we don't have managers like Kenny Black!
McLaughlin's now being allowed to play his football.
mortonjag 2008-09-14 08:50:01
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Sep 13 2008, 01:52 PM) [snapback]511722[/snapback]
SPARROT

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QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 13 2008, 05:30 PM) [snapback]511814[/snapback]
So why has your thread(s) been merged with another equally relevant, compatible and applicable thread?
There's a shipment of FAIL coming your way - no, not delivered by Saab. rolleyes.gif

Rather stilted start to your sentence!


You know very well that ordinary posters are unaccountable for merging of threads.The Mods do their very best.
mortonjag 2008-09-14 08:52:51
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Sep 13 2008, 07:25 PM) [snapback]511900[/snapback]
Why specifically Lennon, there are quite a few Old Firm celebrities who visit that part of the city? You ever see Gordon Durie after a few bevvies? laugh.gif

:lol

Indeed-I just fear that children are allowed a glimpse of Mr Lennon's face! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-14 09:03:51
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 13 2008, 11:57 PM) [snapback]512011[/snapback]
Well done to Midtons and Basra/missus.

Well noted that the StAndrews guys took there time to attend even though the guy was out. Also when they did attend, questions must be asked of there knowledge of these situations, as they stood looking at each other, and it was a member of the public that called the ambulance and another that took control of the situation, while they stood there and looked on. Doesn't fill you with confidence

Glad to here the guy is on the mend though.

But I must say one thing...f*** having a heart attack in Cappielow(well Greenock is the heart attack capital of Scotland) St Andrews guys took 10mins to attend, you'd be deed by then

I don't want to tread on any toes here. One of the St Andrews lads is/was a poster who has previously bemoaned the lack of a defibrillator at Cappielow.

Best to get the FULL story from their side if we can.

My only comment at this stage is that the decision to cancel an ambulance is one which should NEVER be taken without accepting full responsibility for the consequences.

In this case it seems to have been the correct one.

The St Andrews boys are not, and do not claim to be paramedics.
mortonjag 2008-09-14 09:12:50
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 13 2008, 09:36 PM) [snapback]511939[/snapback]
Teams can turn themselves around. In 2005/2006 Stirling you may recall recorded their first win in the league in their 12th league match - a 2-1 victory at Cappielow. They went into that game with 3 points from 11 games.

That win lifted their entire season and they ended up with 51 points and almost getting to the play offs. Its a case of getting the confidence and momentum turn in your favour. We have a number of good players who are not producing it in the league and they are losing it as much in their heads as on the park.

To some degree indeed.

I'd suggest that the task is more difficult than Stirling's was, because we have two apprentices on the job-two apprentices who might as well have picked their tools off the shelf while blindfolded.

Anyway, I've not yet given up on them, but it's becoming clearer by the week that DI/DC's awareness of tactics and formations has mainly come from coaching courses, and they are now having to learn their trade as relative 'rookies' at Cappielow.

Good luck to those guys.

Rae COULD have signed somebody with experience.
mortonjag 2008-09-14 09:27:38 The Monkey and Fing are allowed in free.
mortonjag 2008-09-14 09:54:04
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Sep 14 2008, 02:58 AM) [snapback]512080[/snapback]
what a load o s***te that was, As i said at the game the day irons wants his own unique system 8,1,1 (the irons curtain) the first half was shockingly bad but improvement was at the least overdue. when they went down to 10 we were at best labouring,after that we looked dangerous without being really dangerous, our free kicks are almost at sit com level, the core of the team were on the same pace as jenkins, and i thought smith wanted to go inside all game and play centre half, but on a plus side the time wasting was sublime and the sending off o Tosh was nice but for fuxake we have to go for it at cappielow......I'm bored wi fitba..... pass marks probably russell, shimmin, wake for hitting his head of a brick wall and of course me for enduring 90 mins
as a sideline well done to jim mcv and c. mckay for their humanity. Job well done lads.

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Indeed!

Queens were light years ahead of us in the first half and could easily have come in three up on chances made.

Our midfield again created ABSOLUTELY NOTHING-there wasn't a decent cross I can remember in the whole game, and until very near the end we had had two corners.
I'm not going to start criticising individual players. Nobody was outstanding, and several put in rather off form performances, but that happens in football even at the highest level.

I think you've sussed Davie Irons correctly. He's put together a very unbalanced squad-mishandled (IMHO) the Newby situation leaving us even MORE bare up front, and simply banks on being big enough and strong enough to frustrate other sides while picking up the inevitable goals which appear along the way.

It's NOT good enough. That's not the fault of Davie-he's still (I hope) learning-it's AGAIN the fault of the blind and arrogant old fud who desperately wanted to keep JM, and who COULD have signed experience.

2200 at Cappielow yesterday Mr Rae-will the truth EVER dawn on you? If AD is genuinely making you an offer I suggest you take it while the going's good. Your asking price is dropping every week.

mortonjag 2008-09-14 10:02:50
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 14 2008, 02:57 AM) [snapback]512079[/snapback]
A very small crowd yesterday ?

Wasn't there a crowd of nearly 3,000 at Dumfries last weekend ?

You really MUST bring a friend.

I think the credit crunch is starting to bite Newt!

When folk can't afford to buy cars and three piece suites and go to breathtakingly exciting football matches, they will still buy cheap sweeties.

Things must be looking up for Golden Casket.
mortonjag 2008-09-14 10:14:30 Jenkins came on for the last fifteen minutes or so at Palmerston, and was outstanding.

The guy isn't fit for 90 minutes yet IMO-why was he started yesterday?

The only legitimate question is perhaps this:

Would the said fan have uttered the said words to Jenkins face in the relative privacy of a boxing ring?


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mortonjag 2008-09-14 11:20:12
QUOTE(Ghost @ Sep 14 2008, 10:24 AM) [snapback]512120[/snapback]
Thats the thing though MJ, they dont have a story. And i have the missus to prove that. Also there were plenty of lads from on here to witness this also.

Agree on the defibrillator though.

p.s. midTONs would vouch for the above also.

They must have 'a story' if they were involved at all, surely.

I may be wrong here, but the attendance of a First Aid team, AND a qualified Medic are pre-requisites in terms of the players-NOT the crowd.

I again believe, rightly or wrongly, that had a player required urgent first aid while the crew were attending to some member of the public at the far corner of the ground-somebody who MIGHT simply have been intoxicated for example-serious questions would have been asked.

Only my opinion. Your wife was correct in summoning an ambulance.
mortonjag 2008-09-14 11:21:33
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 14 2008, 10:39 AM) [snapback]512123[/snapback]
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Kenny Black is no better than David Irons.

I'm not a member of their bowling club.
mortonjag 2008-09-14 11:23:28
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 14 2008, 10:41 AM) [snapback]512124[/snapback]
Modesty from MJ? Surely not? tongue.gif

'Ordinary posters'-a collective term for non-Mods.

mortonjag 2008-09-14 11:29:22
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 14 2008, 10:45 AM) [snapback]512127[/snapback]
Wasn't Allan Moore considered an 'apprentice' when he was in charge of Stirling at that time?

Not by me.

In any case my argument was based not just on apprenticeship, but in the selection of tools! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-14 11:30:58
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 14 2008, 09:32 AM) [snapback]512109[/snapback]
As guests of yourself Douglas?

Yes, yes, Peter.

You turned up very late yesterday!
mortonjag 2008-09-14 11:36:48
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 14 2008, 10:50 AM) [snapback]512132[/snapback]
The answer being: 'Of course not'.

I'd imagine that Jenkins started due to Masterton's absence. Needs must, I suppose.


WTF was he!
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Sep 14 2008, 11:19 AM) [snapback]512137[/snapback]
No it makes a mockery of having a small squad of quality . Jenkins will come good but at the moment hes playing catch up with his sharpness .
Obviously Jenkins has more passion than just throwing a tantrum and storming off , well done mate you aren't at your best yet keep plugging away ( not at the spectators -Doogie wants more to come through the gate without getting their head panned in , its dangerous enough with Kev Finlayson's crossing ) biggrin.gif


STILL no wingers to be seen. Our 'left winger's rolleyes.gif out on loan to Burton, and Jimbo STILL plays 90 minutes of huff and puff, when we've 'beefed up' the midfield and play a left back.

Time to rest him-the boy is totally jaded.
mortonjag 2008-09-14 11:39:14
QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Sep 14 2008, 11:34 AM) [snapback]512144[/snapback]
A lot of Morton fans are arseholes tbh.

The team were booed off at half time for some strange unknown reason. Then at full time it was plaudits all round - after a completely s*** performance with the only effort going into the game coming after Tosh was sent off. I'm not saying they should have been booed off the field - not at all - but I just found it a bit bizarre after they were booed off at half time by some people.

EH?

The stand was pretty quiet and drifted off smartly at the final whistle. One or two scattered 'clappers'-that was it from where I saw it.
mortonjag 2008-09-14 11:45:44
QUOTE(Cawston @ Sep 14 2008, 11:35 AM) [snapback]512145[/snapback]
Difference is though that they're really where we want to be.

Cup finals, Euro footie....a win yesterday and they go top.

I want Morton to win every game we play but I'm not all that despondent at a win, a draw and two clean sheets against one of the best sides in the league.

Can't comment on the performance obviously, and from some of the comments it sounds grim unsure.gif , but it does seem like there's not a lot of credit being given to Queens for making it difficult for us.

On the Jenkins thing, if he needs match fitness you've got to start somewhere. Hopefully a couple more games under his belt and he'll be running at full tilt.

PS. unless I've missed something that's upset the natural world order we [b]WILL beat Thistle smile.gif[/b]

There's no reason why not. On form we make it VERY difficult for others-that appears to be DI's only philosophy at the moment. We have enough skill to get goals now and then-the Hibs game was a prime example.

Doesn't alter the fact that as a spectacle our football is DIRE from week to week, and the crowds are dropping.

Raith-a division below us had over a thousand more yesterday. Even bloody CLYDE almost had as many.

As you said at the outset Queens have belief, and a Mr Rae who's more interested in club than self.

mortonjag 2008-09-14 11:54:19
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Sep 14 2008, 11:44 AM) [snapback]512156[/snapback]
i saw what was happening and it took ages for the st andrews guys to come to any sort of decision, even to decide what way they were going to exit, the guy did not look well at all, they did make the decision eventually to go towards the dublin end rather than fight thier way through the crowd. To cancel the ambulance I believe was daft though as by the looks of things the guy was seriously ill and his eyes were rolled back in his head. jim and moira as well as the other bloke did well but there was a serious lack of decision making and direct leadership initially from the st andrews guys.

glad the bloke is fine but there are some issues regarding the first aid cover at cappielow.

As I've already said, I DON'T think the Club is responsible for emergency treatment of fans. There is a disclaimer to that effect in the season ticket books-not quite worded like that-but 'accepting no responsibility for loss, injury, etc. EVEN by 'negligence'.

It's worded rather strangely, but see what you make of it yourself.

My take is that it's the old story of 'knowing your rights' when in fact they don't exist.

Again, to repeat, the St Andrews boys and girls are First Aiders-not doctors, nurses, or paramedics.
mortonjag 2008-09-14 11:58:57
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 14 2008, 11:38 AM) [snapback]512147[/snapback]
How can someone be jaded SIX weeks into the new season?

He's never stopped being jaded for well over a season! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-14 12:55:25
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 14 2008, 12:48 PM) [snapback]512175[/snapback]
That's because I was locked in a garage all week!!!!! mad.gif

Do you spend a lot of time in Night Clubs?
mortonjag 2008-09-14 12:59:08
QUOTE(stuart @ Sep 14 2008, 12:45 PM) [snapback]512174[/snapback]
Hello

Something I saw in the Sunday Mail report today is

"The home support were not impressed with the 4-5-1 tactics - something boss Davie Irons insisits they must get used to. He said : We are playing that way because we have been conceding goals of late Now we've had 2 cleansheets in 2 matches which can help us build for the future."

Is it fair enough that we are sacrificing an exciting brand of football for a more pragmatic approach or would people rather we played a good exciting style but lost a few goals along the way?

This report appears on the same page as a massive picture of Scott McGlaughlin celebrating another one of his goals for Airdrie



The fans are ALREADY getting used to it!

They're voting with their feet.
mortonjag 2008-09-14 13:06:41
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Sep 14 2008, 12:55 PM) [snapback]512180[/snapback]
I think anyone giving a player dogs abuse, to then go running to stewards when something is shouted back at them, are nothing but complete and utter s***ebags.

I liked the last avatar-has Kermit taken command?

QUOTE(foobs the elder @ Sep 14 2008, 12:56 PM) [snapback]512181[/snapback]
The lad's not jaded, he is just playing in the worst mid field I have ever seen.
Only way Jenkins is going to get fit is by playing, he needs to be picked in before either Masterson or McGuffie,
Lazy dos'nt even begin to describe those two.

As for the abuse, its always been there, most of the crowd can always play better than those on the pitch and are never slow to let the players know, silly burger should develop a thicker skin and ignore it..

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I take it you include yourself in your last sentence!!!!!

If Jimbo's not jaded he's just crap-take your pick.

Your comments about McGuffie are CRAZY-if you want to see 'lazy' look at big Eric yesterday-just as one example-he ALWAYS wants rid of the ball.
mortonjag 2008-09-14 13:12:51
QUOTE(foobs the elder @ Sep 14 2008, 01:07 PM) [snapback]512190[/snapback]
Hopefully dropped.
He is lazy and imobile and a poor excuse for a proffessional footballer.

nothing he has done so far warrants his inclusion in the team (free kick at Easter road excepted)

foobs

A tad harsh! laugh.gif laugh.gif

I'd rather have seen him as a sub that some unknown Rothesay/Pishley kid!

Maybe he's 'homesick' and has gone off on loan to somebody! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-14 13:14:57
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 14 2008, 01:11 PM) [snapback]512192[/snapback]
I'd take a 0-0 over the 0-5 drubbing every day of the week.
He's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't - surely he knows now that we need extra quality.

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mortonjag 2008-09-14 13:22:56
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 14 2008, 01:17 PM) [snapback]512197[/snapback]
Spot on.



Doesn't he get free admission and sit in a special box?



mortonjag 2008-09-14 13:32:00
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 14 2008, 01:13 PM) [snapback]512194[/snapback]
Point is MJ, First Aiders or Paramedics, they need to take control of situations like this were a person life hangs in the balance. What we witnessed was a shambles, with members of the public left to take control of the situation with StAndrews guys and police looking on.

As for the club being responsible, am sure they do have a legal commitment, though am sure someone in the know can confirm or deny this theory

I thought it was just a fit. The fact is that NOTHING untoward happened, yet folk on here want a pop at mere First Aiders whose responsibility is to the players on the pitch.

QUOTE(AJCTON @ Sep 14 2008, 01:24 PM) [snapback]512200[/snapback]
your right sean maybe i was to soft in my post, it was a shambles, it appeared to me that the first aiders that were there were severely lacking experience and leadership. the club does have a resposibility to the safety of everyone within the park, otherwise there would be no legal requirement for the s andrews and the police for that matter to be there.

The legal requirement is in terms of the playing staff. Like it or not, the Club does NOT have to double up for the NHS!

I'm SUPPORTING THE CLUB HERE-will anybody notice? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-14 13:35:58
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 14 2008, 01:28 PM) [snapback]512201[/snapback]
Everything you say is pretty much spot on apart from the bit in bold. He said 'We pay you' as in 'we pay your wages', which is anything but fair comment given what happened. Jenkins should probably have bit his tongue and not said anything, but as I've said elsewhere - If folk can't take it, don't dish it out in the first place.

I wish Jenks had hauled him on to the track and lamped him.

Next home crowd 4000!!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-14 13:55:53
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 14 2008, 01:37 PM) [snapback]512205[/snapback]
And how did anyone know this at the time? Guy look like he was at deaths door.

First aiders are not only there for the players, think someone will confirm that, that is why they are situated throughout the crowd and not just down on the pitch

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Are you at the 'wind up'?

Where are those First Aiders who are situated 'throughout the crowd'?

I've already stated several facts, and we continue to get speculation.

If somebody takes ill in a public place-call an ambulance. If you are competent, administer First Aid yourself in the interim.

The club is NOT responsible for (as examples) unstable epileptics/epileptics who have forgotten medication, diabetics who have accidentally overdosed on insulin/missed a meal before a match, sudden myocardial infactions, faints, collapses from alcohol intoxication, premature labour, ETC., ETC.

For what it's worth, I find it almost unbelievable that in this day and age, nobody seemed to have the wit to simply put the said person in the 'coma position', or if he was indeed fitting, to check his airway before leaving him to get on with it! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-14 14:01:20
QUOTE(foobs the elder @ Sep 14 2008, 01:40 PM) [snapback]512206[/snapback]
Are you mad ? McGuffie never chases back, he is only bested in laziness by Masterson.

wee Russel was best for us today, by a mile.

Jenkins needs games to get fit before we see the best of him, but he needs to get on with it, fast losing patience.

Truth is Queens were better than us and if Connor had been playing they would have had the points.

Question must be asked, why do we see other teams, Livvy, Aidrie Queens, playing attractive passing football, players moving for the ball, seen us doing it in the past occasionally, so why the big punt up the park, where it is inevitably swept up by the opposition and they are coming right back at us.
Begs the question what are our lot doing all week ??????????

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If you mean that he doesn't sprint about the place to no real effect like Jimbo and Superkev, I understand.

Why don't you watch the guy instead of the game just once Foobs. I thought the same as you about McGuffie until I started to focus on him for a couple of matches. He's worth his weight in gold.
mortonjag 2008-09-14 14:05:24 Douglas Rae is an atheist Methodist! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-14 14:07:41
QUOTE(cataTONic @ Sep 13 2008, 01:49 PM) [snapback]511720[/snapback]
There you go again with your 'highly educated' medical jargon.... laugh.gif laugh.gif

The medical term for testicles is 'Testes'!
mortonjag 2008-09-14 14:10:42
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 13 2008, 09:54 PM) [snapback]511947[/snapback]
Yes it is.
If there were a need for restrictions, what is the problem with simply enforcing current measures ie the offence of being drunk and disorderly, education etc more effectively instead of implementing botched, discriminatory, patronising and ludicrous legislation?
Kenny McAskill has no grounds to base his crusade upon, given that he himself was arrested for being drunk and disorderly. rolleyes.gif

If I may, for once, use common parlance, you talk a power of p1sh son.
mortonjag 2008-09-14 14:12:45
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 14 2008, 02:19 AM) [snapback]512072[/snapback]
pick one for Cappielow.

The picture quality's not great, but third from the right looks a good ride.
mortonjag 2008-09-14 14:16:51
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 14 2008, 10:46 AM) [snapback]512129[/snapback]
I missed the bit where Broon and Milliband are trying to stop adults using Air rifles whilst sending their weans to fire assault rifles at Ahem"training camps".

Though you miss the point Col.

The fuss had dies down until Mr Brainless reignited it.

Shot himself in the foot.

I believe he may also be a POUFFE!
mortonjag 2008-09-14 14:31:31
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 14 2008, 02:14 PM) [snapback]512217[/snapback]
Are you on the piss take again? There are StAndrews guys situated in the Shed and in the main stand at every game.

What is the piont in having these guys then? am lost

No one is pionting the finger at the club, more asking questions on the ability of the StAndrews guys
See that is were the StAndrews guys should have stood up to the mark...

Guy wasn't in a fit, just looked paralised. Your coming across of defensive here Doc, hit a raw nerve or something?
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YES Sean, you HAVE hit a raw nerve and it's this one.

It's utterly laughable that you claim 'he wasn't in a fit'. How would YOU know? Do ALL fits present like a go go dancer on speed? laugh.gif Why didn't you breenge in if you're so well informed?

I'm getting pissed off to the back teeth with the speculation on this thread. I feel defensive towards the St Andrews Ambulance for the simple reason that they are a voluntary body who are being vilified for (in my opinion) fulfilling their obligation to the playing staff on a match day. I ask again-what ultimate harm came of their actions in respect of the incident?

When you can prove to me that they have ANY other obligation, I'll be willing to look at the issue again. Until then, I will presume that much of this thread has been the usual hype of an ignorant public who perceived a simple faint or seizure as 'somebody breathing his last'.

mortonjag 2008-09-14 14:33:30
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Sep 14 2008, 02:23 PM) [snapback]512220[/snapback]
Was it the jag that trained them..........the truth is out there;)

Don't be ridiculous. Mortonjag is a doctor-not a mere ambulance man or first aider. bag.gif shutup.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-14 15:29:45
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 14 2008, 03:14 PM) [snapback]512257[/snapback]
MJ, think your way out of order on this one.

Two members of the public put the guy into the recovery position, checked his airway and pulse. As for a fit, am no Doc, but in the general way of things, the guy just looked paralysed.

StAndrews guys do it all voluntary agreed, but still voluntary or not a degree of leadership is needed in these circumstances.

One big piont is though, just because the guy is now ok, does that make everything ok?


No Sean-I'M NOT way out of order.

I'm grateful to Forfar ton and Ghost for providing more information. I've NEVER stated that the St Andrews boys got it right, but I STILL want to know EXACTLY where they got anything wrong.

We're getting different accounts of the event. It seems that adequate first aid WAS administered by qualified members of the public. That's ALL the St Andrews boys are!!!

They are not paramedics or qualified Scottish Ambulance Service staff and they don't pretend to be.


I already suggested that the person who cancelled the ambulance should only have done so if willing to take the consequences. Now I'm hearing the guy WAS taken to hospital.

We're not talking about Pittodrie here. As far as I can see the main focus for St Andrews' activity at Cappielow is the First Aid room. How many St Andrews' staff attend each match? Their function at Scapa appears to be mainly that of 'stretcher bearer'-I clearly remember one of their members claiming that Mr Rae was unwilling to pay for full Scottish Ambulance Service cover-I certainly DON'T see them 'scattered throughout the crowd'.

So back to the original question-who did anything wrong?

I'd like a factual answer please-not further speculation about what you think should have been done and by whom!


mortonjag 2008-09-14 15:39:14
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 14 2008, 03:05 PM) [snapback]512252[/snapback]
Thankfully I have never smoked....

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You do plenty of fuming Spurtle!
mortonjag 2008-09-14 15:40:47
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 14 2008, 03:31 PM) [snapback]512261[/snapback]
get them in among the lions.

F*CK THE LIONS


(signed the Tigers)
mortonjag 2008-09-14 15:44:20
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 14 2008, 02:45 PM) [snapback]512233[/snapback]
I didn't miss the point, I just didn't get as excited as you about a non-story. happy.gif

What do you think of impoverished SNP Cllr. Kalashnikov who's 'having to sell his south side mansion to pay the bills' laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif planning to send his daughter to Oxbridge?
mortonjag 2008-09-14 16:10:37
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 14 2008, 03:49 PM) [snapback]512269[/snapback]
FFS Only on this message board could a guy taking a bad turn at the football turn into a full scale argument. laugh.gif

Anyway I for one am glad it seems the gentleman has made a full recovery. Just to touch on a few things thats already been said, firstly MJ, when I got to the guy I tried to steady him along with Moira (ghosts mrs), his legs started to give way and at this point another fan (dirty dingus's mate) appeared on the scene, he took over from Moira and we both lowered him to the ground and put him in the recovery position, we put a jacket under the guys head and I supported it best I could to stop him further injuring himself whilst continuously checking that his airways were clear and loosening the clothing from around his neck as did the other lad who took his pulse a few times to make sure everything was ok there. I'm not really wanting to have a go at the first aiders but when they appeared they didn't really look as if they knew what to do in the situation, they just watched on.
Moira was on the phone to 999 operator and I remember her giving them a detailed account of the gentleman's condition and what was happening, I did not hear the first aider tell Moira to cancel the ambulance but she told me later he did and I have no reason whats so ever to doubt her, I did hear her ask the first aiders if there was oxygen available but I don't think there was a reply, I also heard the other fan say to the first aider to check her pulse but he ended up having to do this himself again. There was also a bit of a debate as to where the ambulance was to go to as the first aider wanted to take the gentleman right all the way around the track, I think the correct decision was made for the guy to be taken out via the WDE.

It's also a bit annoying to hear people say it was only a fit and he should have basically have been left to get on with it, I have no medical background and I was extremely concerned about the guy, his eyes were rolling and he was making strange noises, all in a days work for some but not so 'every day' for myself.


Right Jim-I'll precis the scenario and you can put me right where I'm wrong or confused.

Somebody took a bad turn. Competent first aid was immediately given and an ambulance summoned.

A second group of (hopefully) competent first aiders arrived on the scene to see that all was under control IN TERMS OF FIRST AID, so they hesitated about breenging in and complicating matters. They DON'T carry oxygen-they are NOT ambulancemen.

You'll notice Jim, that the only thing I queried-and I jumped on it straight away, was somebody questioning the calling of an ambulance. Unless the victim was fully alert and recovered, I fail to fully understand that.

It was an entirely natural suggestion that they transport him to the First Aid room pending the arrival of an ambulance. What was to be gained from leaving him where he was-he was apparently breathing with a clear airway, and not traumatised in any way.

Just SUPPOSE the ambulance had taken half an hour-those things have happened-they would have been pilloried for leaving him lying there and NOT taking him to the first aid room!

Anyway, it still all boils down to the actual function of the St Andrews Ambulance service with reference to the general public AT CAPPIELOW.

I understand what they are perceived to be doing, and expected to do. It's time folk acknowledged their limitations, and in particular that they are just Joe Public with fancy suits on, giving of their precious time 'for a good cause'.
mortonjag 2008-09-14 16:22:31
QUOTE(Lindberg6 @ Sep 14 2008, 03:46 PM) [snapback]512268[/snapback]
Diabolical fare on offer on Saturday - that first half formation was complete nonsense.

Had Queens scored (which they would feel they deserved) our so called gameplan would have been out the window as the gameplan was obviously to frustrate with 10 men behind the ball and try and nick something on the break or from a set piece....which we are so brilliant at!?!?!?!?

I think Irons has panicked after the Airdrie game and is setting out the team first and foremost not lose a goal. That may be ok if you have guys in the team who can score a goal out of nothing or having genuine pace upfront on the break....but we have neither of these. I get the feeling Irons saw that we won at Dumfries with that formation and the light bulb came on and he thought he had found the secret formula!!!

I genuinely feel sorry for our attacking players - it's not as if they are missing chances, we are just not creating any chances. I think we had 1 effort on target yesterday and that was when Russell clipped the bar after a bit of a solo run.

With 3 points for a win it is better to win 1 and lose 1 than draw 2.....the reason we are currently sitting bottom is because we are the only team not to have won a game in the league. If you can't score goals, you won't win games.

I'm afraid the brand of football we saw yesterday is going to make the crowds plummet even more - you can see it being below 2,000 over the winter if those type of performances keep up. Compare yesterday with the 2-2 draw with St Johnstone early in the season - I know what I'd rather watch.

Should we get an injury or 2 up front then we are really up that famous creek without a paddle....

Well done to Shimmin, Russell, Cuthbert and Mcguffie yesterday, we can only hope things get better sooner rather than later.

Amen to all that!
mortonjag 2008-09-14 16:29:08
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 14 2008, 03:58 PM) [snapback]512274[/snapback]
Think your looking too deep here MJ. What facts do you want, am only passing on what I saw and heard, nothing else I can do.

Stop taking it all so personal rolleyes.gif

Don't be ridiculous-I wasn't personally involved, and if I had been I probably couldn't/wouldn't have done any more than was done by the first group of competent first aiders who dealt with it in text book fashion by the sound of it-so WHY criticise the second lot for 'doing nothing' when there was nothing else they could do?

QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 14 2008, 04:22 PM) [snapback]512284[/snapback]
I'm not really wanting to get embroiled into any sort of argument over this, maybe the first aiders looked on and allowed what they saw was competent first aid to be carried out like you said, maybe they did what is txt book stuff for them by not getting involved when there was nothing more they could do than was being done, I wont argue with any of that.

From what I recall the stretcher didn't appear in the shed for some time, by the time we got the gentleman onto the stretcher the ambulance was there, so this was the reason he was not taken to the first aid room. I will also say the gentleman was not conscious at anytime I was there, he did several times look as if he was coming round but at no point gave us any indication he was aware of what was going on. I left him at about 3.15pm in the ambulance just before he was transferred to the IRH and I believe he was still unconscious.

Anyway last post on this thread for me.

Seems like Ghostie's lot did a great job-acknowledged by the other first aiders then!
mortonjag 2008-09-14 16:36:54
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 14 2008, 04:24 PM) [snapback]512287[/snapback]
Just be careful when asking for a BJ. unsure.gif

They are just big saft poosies!
mortonjag 2008-09-14 16:41:22
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 14 2008, 04:31 PM) [snapback]512298[/snapback]
Doon to his last 10 million? Mibbies he should get a bung from Soapy. Aww naw, haud on, Soapy bunged Eck to stop the regulation of buses as per the essenpee manifesto. Bung duly delivered and the regulation proposal disappeared into a black hole.

.......and we know Sir Cliff is well tanned Spurtle, but don't start foaming at the mouth.
mortonjag 2008-09-14 16:49:49
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 14 2008, 04:33 PM) [snapback]512299[/snapback]
I take it the Monkey wasn't playing ball last night...

Who says you were personally involved? Your losing it. laugh.gif

Your suggestion that I 'shouldn't take it personally' implied that I was in some way 'personally involved'.

The Monkey plays pool on a Saturday night-sh1t hot too-he's been barred from almost every pub in the South Side for 'ripping off the customers'.

It's a shame when folk can't take an honourable beating Sean-especially from a wee monkey! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-14 16:58:43
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Sep 14 2008, 04:51 PM) [snapback]512308[/snapback]
I still say wait until the end of the first quarter. We've lost three and drawn three, whose to say we won't win the next three? I await "I'm to say" from a few people! laugh.gif

Realistically, a win at Firhill next Saturday can be achieved. Again the following weekend against Dunfermline at home, especially if we put in a strong performance against Caley in the CIS Cup that week, and win over some of our disgruntled fans. At least a point up at Dingwall at the start of October is achieveable also I think. Just shy of midtable form based on the first nine matches if we get that. The team has it in them.

I was disappointed that we seemed even more defensive yesterday than at Palmerston last Sunday, however I don't think we are going to be getting used to that sort of formation at all. When Irons uses it, we all know why. It would be better to see exciting matches at Cappielow, where we take care of sides that are down to ten men, but yesterday just wasn't our day, again! It'll come. We will win games there.

Agreed in general Bug, but the fans just aren't willing to tolerate utterly negative tactics just so that DI/DC stay in a job.

We had that sort of keech from JM for far too long and in terms of a spectacle the current football's WORSE! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-14 17:02:02
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 14 2008, 04:51 PM) [snapback]512309[/snapback]
f*** Religion! Religion is the Devil!
...wait, the Devil doesn't exist then if religion doesn't exist.
b*****d! Religion is a Paedophile!

My religion is preying on your G Glitter darling! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-14 17:11:12
QUOTE(Malt @ Sep 14 2008, 05:01 PM) [snapback]512314[/snapback]
Some fans really want to get a grip. We honestly must have a s*** reputation within Scottish football. Maybe Scot McLaughlin was right and we are "Morons"

It is amazing how we see players do well against us at cappielow, and in the league, we sign them and suddently, in the mind of Morton fans, they are s***e

Templeman
Linn
Weatherson
Jenkins
McGuffie
Stevenson

The list is endless.

Kiss of death for your career when you sign for Morton it would seem.

McPherson, McCormack, McInally...............??DI/DC


What's the common factor? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-14 17:30:12
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 14 2008, 05:12 PM) [snapback]512318[/snapback]
No it didn't laugh.gif , it meant your taking it all too personal, not that you were personnally involved.

As for the monkey, maybe its time to give it a right good spanking rolleyes.gif

Well it's maybe that I just don't like wanton and ignorant criticism of folk who are only 'doing their best' ............talking of which, can I change the subject and ask you who said this and where?


'Can I end this article by welcoming everyone to today's match, friend and foe alike, for what I am sure will be a fast and exciting game'. smile.gif


mortonjag 2008-09-14 17:34:56
QUOTE(leyTON @ Sep 14 2008, 12:35 PM) [snapback]512170[/snapback]
forza he continually posted a picture of a fat naked guy during a match thread

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NOT Davie McArthur Peter Weatherson, I hope!
mortonjag 2008-09-14 17:43:30
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 14 2008, 05:35 PM) [snapback]512330[/snapback]
No, I don't want to change the subject. Think you are taking it all to personal, take a step back and see the bigger picture(you'll find monkey may well be two timing you, with an even older gent)

OK its voluntary, but that excuses nothing.

Bawbag-you don't know the answer-let me give you another clue-


'Frankly our showing was so bad that I am not even going to write any more about it. I am just drawing a veil over it.


Final point. Only Iain Russell and Jim McAlister gained pass marks. I felt sorry for our Manager, Dave Irons, that he had to be put through such trauma.....etc.,etc.'
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Any closer now Sonny Bean? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-14 18:04:03
QUOTE(Ghost @ Sep 14 2008, 05:43 PM) [snapback]512336[/snapback]
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Nowt to do with me MJ, Jim/Moira and the other lad dealt with it. I only summoned the St Andrews Ambulance folk wink.gif


You are too modest.
QUOTE(standman @ Sep 14 2008, 05:49 PM) [snapback]512341[/snapback]
The most comforting thing about this thread is the fact Midtons and Mrs Ghost went to the aid of a fellow supporter.

For that they should be commended.

Well done guys.

Indeed, and don't forget there would be no Mrs Ghost without a Mr Ghost! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-14 18:10:10
QUOTE(Lost in Space @ Sep 14 2008, 04:29 PM) [snapback]512295[/snapback]
Yesterday were were not allowed to stand in a perfectly useable area of he cowshed terracing at the Wee Dublin End of the shed adjacent to the seating area.

WTF is wrong with standing there, after paying 14 quid to get in to the place?

After a discussion with the head steward were were allowed to use it, but only breifly. That was until we were moved on because, apparently, the Polis have this classified as a "Sterile Area". What the F*ck doe that mean?

Can anyone explain why that perfectly reasonable part of he shed should be classified as such?




ster·ile
2. incapable of producing offspring; not producing offspring.


Why not just put up a sign reading:


NO SHAGGING
mortonjag 2008-09-14 18:16:54
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 14 2008, 05:59 PM) [snapback]512345[/snapback]
I don't agree with the abuse and some fans are moronic to say the least, but a lot of our players are on at least £1000 a week, a lot more than most teams in this league and its disgraceful that for that money we can't even buy a win in the league , and even more disgraceful that some of the players look like they couldn't care if they win or lose...probably because they know they have their big fat paycheck to come home to either way.

In my opinion the mindless morons who hurl unwarranted abuse are almost as daft as the more intelligent fans who think they are worth any attention.
mortonjag 2008-09-14 18:19:52
QUOTE(Ghost @ Sep 14 2008, 06:17 PM) [snapback]512352[/snapback]
Ahhh, ye see here though, she is not Mrs Ghost rolleyes.gif

Yet laugh.gif

In which case I hope you have not been giving her the willies.
mortonjag 2008-09-14 18:25:39
QUOTE(Ghost @ Sep 14 2008, 06:21 PM) [snapback]512358[/snapback]
Wellies more like laugh.gif

Just so long as you're using condoms of sorts.
mortonjag 2008-09-14 18:30:01
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Sep 14 2008, 06:24 PM) [snapback]512363[/snapback]
any e.g's of some of our players who didn't care yesterday, PT ? I've seen some sub par performances but the 'not caring' bit always puzzles me. Don't you think their own team mates would have something to say about someone who wasn't interested in trying. ?
or maybe it's a conspiracy and none of them care.
or maybe there's a rota operating, and they all have their turn at not caring.
or maybe I've just ripped the arce out of it.

Don't puzzle yourself to death over it Cloth Ears.

Were you at Airdrie BTW? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-14 18:34:22
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Sep 14 2008, 06:31 PM) [snapback]512368[/snapback]
go onto you tube....type any word OR phrase into the search bar. Now the 1st video that comes up in the list below....click onto that...seeeee how far you can get before you lose interest, or drives you nuts, type the last thing you hear into the search box, see what comes up next, repeat process, so far gone from bible bashers to s*** 80's groups and then some!! ph34r.gif rolleyes.gif blink.gif

Give the missus a game of scrabble-whoever loses goes out for the chips! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-14 18:44:55
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 14 2008, 06:33 PM) [snapback]512372[/snapback]
People expressed opinions which they might have kept to themselves if they had known the full circumstances. Thats nobody's fault!

As far as Masterton goes, he would have contributed more yesterday than Jenkins who should the odd touch which suggest he can be a class player but was mostly missing. Masterton is the only decent dead ball kicker we have and he could have made a difference yesterday.

Precisely!

It's perfectly possible to feel empathy with, and send condolences to a fellow human in unhappy times without suddenly changing ones general opinion of that person.
mortonjag 2008-09-14 18:56:08
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Sep 14 2008, 06:37 PM) [snapback]512379[/snapback]
Not at Airdrie MJ, ( I was away on holiday) was there a mass break out of not caring at the Shyberry ? I know that the players were accused by some of 'thinking they just had to turn up' Which I also feel is p1sh as Airdrie's result against Hearts would have been warning enough that it wasn't going to be a breeze.

Like most I certainly didn't see that coming though.

After 15 minutes at Airdrie-I commented that 'If somebody told me Dougie Rae had just cancelled the win bonus, I'd believe him'.

I take port ton's point. If anybody cared THAT much, we'd maybe see somebody taking the initiative just for once.

Please don't misunderstand me-they are professionals-I'm not accusing them of throwing games-not even of 'not trying', but 'caring' is something quite different-it's about an emotional attachment.

Please nominate ONE player in our current squad who REALLY cares more about Greenock Morton than the size of his monthly salary cheque..
mortonjag 2008-09-14 19:01:26
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 14 2008, 06:53 PM) [snapback]512396[/snapback]
LOL someone rattled your cage laugh.gif laugh.gif

Anyway what has this got to do with your losing your virginity 60+ years ago?

Absolutely EVERYTHING-she told me she was a qualified first aider and would demonstrate the 'kiss of life'.

I was young and naive.
mortonjag 2008-09-14 19:09:04
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 14 2008, 06:37 PM) [snapback]512378[/snapback]
It was a desparate attempt by opposition parties to try and land a glove on Salmond....Didn't happen though laugh.gif

They certainly wouldn't go near that festering carbunculated caricature of humanity without a pair of thick rubber gloves, a bucket of dettol, and a nose clip.
mortonjag 2008-09-14 19:10:41
QUOTE(Yoda @ Sep 14 2008, 06:41 PM) [snapback]512383[/snapback]
while you're there - mine's a pie supper

'Salt and vinegar-any pickles'?
mortonjag 2008-09-14 19:13:33
QUOTE(Yoda @ Sep 14 2008, 06:24 PM) [snapback]512364[/snapback]
Fk you I was born in the branny! laugh.gif
edit to add that doesn't mean I'm voting for his return ph34r.gif



QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Sep 14 2008, 06:43 PM) [snapback]512384[/snapback]
I'm a Branny girl as well, were are you TiD? YBtoi. ph34r.gif

Were you both home deliveries. I was a takeaway from the 'Rankin'!
mortonjag 2008-09-14 19:17:02
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Sep 14 2008, 06:56 PM) [snapback]512399[/snapback]
Mon the brainwashing Scientoligist Cult .

Lets hear it for the Theatons
down with Panorama bag.gif

F*CK PANORAMA I say, and F*CK THE TEN O'CLOCK NEWS, and specially F*CK THE NATIONAL ANTHEM IF THEY STILL PLAY IT BEFORE THAT WEE DOT DISAPPEARS.
mortonjag 2008-09-14 19:25:42
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 14 2008, 07:14 PM) [snapback]512410[/snapback]
I'd rather see us playing exciting attacking football every week. Better to win every second game and lose every second game than to try to go for boring 0-0 draws. Playing for a draw, which is what one up front means, will cost us our first division status. If we haven't got the players to win games, why not? We know the team can win and can score goals, so let's go for entertainment. Otherwise we'll have sub 2k crowds by Xmas.

So I'm NOT mad!


I've repeatedly been 'shouted down' for saying that I'd rather see us play really well and lose to the better team on the day, than 'grind out' a boring draw.

Obviously that has to be seen in perspective, but history tends to suggests that attractive attacking football produces a positive result when the league table's rolled out at the season's end,-AND as you say it brings in more money.
mortonjag 2008-09-14 20:45:26
QUOTE(Dr Zhivago @ Sep 14 2008, 08:10 PM) [snapback]512432[/snapback]
Seems that those in charge at Cappielow are wanting to do away with that tradition.

I wrote to the club about 6 months ago asking for clarification of their pricing policy for pre-school kids. As seems to be the norm... I didn't get a reply.

That's an absolute disgrace.

You criticise on here and are scathingly told to 'Write to the Club'! When you do the Club ignores you. I understand that they have a siege mentality, but failing even to acknowledge a simple enquiry about pricing policy smacks of utter disorganisation (I say that generously) or of abysmal disregard for the paying customer.

NOTHING has really changed since Rae announced his three year plan in 2001!

He presides over a motley bunch of 'yes men' whom-like the fans and the Trust, he controls by instinctive 'divide and rule'.

I can't be bothered boring posters with the details, but one of my relatives was treated despicably on the telephone by some 'wee lassie'-his words BTW, when he enquired about non-delivery of his season tickets-THEIR c*ck up of course! Just another example of 'Us and them'.

The end result is that the Club has lost its way. I firmly believe that the so far unquantified Alistair Donald element is the only thing which currently stays off a more concerted reaction to Mr Rae's stewardship.

I sense that AD may have already bailed him out at least once.

I dearly wish we could see our Club progressing, and that man is now nothing but a stumbling block IMO.

mortonjag 2008-09-14 21:27:35
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 14 2008, 08:22 PM) [snapback]512436[/snapback]
I don't know if it has been mentioned at all but Jim, if someone does take a fit the best thing to do is first make sure they are in no immediate danger then simply let them get on with it. It is all that can be done. I have a mate who is epileptic and that was what she said when I asked her.

...just for future reference smile.gif

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mortonjag 2008-09-14 21:30:55
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 14 2008, 09:24 PM) [snapback]512467[/snapback]
Dont think anyone is asking them to be ton fans, just have some sort of affiliation with the club. Mcalister and Greacen aren't Morton supporters but they would give absolutely everything for this club.

Well if you're saying that every proffession footballer wants to play their best and win things then i guess that means that the players we have aren't good enough, which is an even bigger problem...espescially when you consider the wages theyre on. ( fully expect MJ to put my last sentence in fuschia bold and make a comment about Mr Rae. tongue.gif)

Mr Rae's soor plooms are just the thing.
mortonjag 2008-09-14 21:34:02
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 14 2008, 09:28 PM) [snapback]512472[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-09-14 21:37:16
QUOTE(Yoda @ Sep 14 2008, 07:14 PM) [snapback]512409[/snapback]
oh go on then, as you're offering laugh.gif

Sorry-I was distracted-bet you're starving now-Pie supper, plenty of salt 'n' vinegar, three pickles and a glass bottle of Irn Bru. Will that be OK?
mortonjag 2008-09-14 21:40:03
QUOTE(Yoda @ Sep 14 2008, 07:17 PM) [snapback]512414[/snapback]
home delivery. My Dad kept popping his head round the bedroom door to see how my Mum was getting on, the midwife finally lost her temper and shouted "Your not sterile" Jim's reply "I know I'm not f***ing sterile - she wouldn't be here if I was"

Don't even get me started on my brother, my mother, her tights and his two birthdays

Are you quite old? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-14 21:45:17
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 14 2008, 08:39 PM) [snapback]512448[/snapback]
Aye, he should have let the thing be forgotten.

Spurtle-did I misread that. Mr Mason is an SNP MSP-he doesn't get things wrong remember!

Next you'll be coming out as a leftie POUFFE!
mortonjag 2008-09-14 21:47:18 Sir Cliff enters













































SPURTLE! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-14 21:50:46
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 14 2008, 09:34 PM) [snapback]512475[/snapback]
I don't recall the SNP doing similar when they were in opposition.
The have no mandate to preach and attempt to subvert the norm's of society.

JEEZ SPARROT - you're just winding the old Jag up-ain't you?

Wait till Mr Bam sees that!
mortonjag 2008-09-14 22:02:48
QUOTE(barrheadton @ Sep 14 2008, 09:35 PM) [snapback]512476[/snapback]
Was immediately behind the incident. Had it not been for the guys who helped out the guy could have been in serious danger.At no point did the first aiders even check for pulse/check airways etc. They couldn't even figure out how to get him on the stretcher . At one point one even stood on the fingers of someone trying to get him on the stretcher. As for saying it was only a fit, there are many and varied causes of fitting. The sensible option I would have thought would have been to summon the crowd doctor, Dr. Fraser Gray, the last time I checked the programme. I'm sorry, volunteers or not , they were a complete shambles. Even when they got the stetcher to the top of the WDE stairs they waited an eternity

What's the point in flinging your tuppenceworth in at this stage unless you've something positive to add. It's been well established that the fan qualified first aiders had the situation under control and had summoned an ambulance. The sensible option (calling an ambulance) had already been taken-the man was breathing freely and not in any apparently immediate danger of succumbing. What do you think the good Dr would have done that hadn't been done already, if he even got there before a FAR better equipped ambulance crew?

The point has already been made that the St Andrews boys were 'A SHAMBLES'. Since that judgement has come from ignorant and speculative laymen, I prefer to reserve judgement until we hear their side of the story if indeed we ever do.

QUOTE(Sawney Bean @ Sep 14 2008, 09:40 PM) [snapback]512481[/snapback]
From what I saw, I agree with that. Shambles, volunteers or not, some sort of ownership was needed. Hope the guy is alright. Looked in a poor state as he passed me, being carried out.


So did Morton yesterday! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-14 22:09:02
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 14 2008, 10:01 PM) [snapback]512493[/snapback]
Just found out the guy went into a Diabetic comma. Now am sure you don't need me to troll through the web to prove that it is indeed life threatening.

Sean-will you kindly refrain from dabbling in matters you don't understand. I've seen all degrees of hypoglycaemia from transient faints to indeed life threatening episodes. Very, very few diabetics die as an immediate result of hypoglycaemia.

If indeed that was the diagnosis, the initial first aid management (including summoning an emergency ambulance) was ALL that could have been done.
mortonjag 2008-09-15 07:16:53
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 14 2008, 10:13 PM) [snapback]512501[/snapback]
Your a cheeky chappy tonight.

Your opinion comes from you not even being there, a court of law would chuck you out for such mince.

'because I was a Doctor, I know that the guy lying 300metres from me and out of my line of vision was not in any serious danger ' laugh.gif

We have a strippers night coming up soon in the Darroch, come along and watch something with a pulse rolleyes.gif

You are not being remotely clever any more Sean if you're just attempting to wind me up.

If you are actually being serious you are clearly not nearly as intelligent as I had assumed.


I have at NO point attempted to make a diagnosis, nor have I EVER suggested that the man was not ill.

What I have said repeatedly is that the initial first aid treatment which included the summoning of an emergency ambulance had been undertaken, and it had been established that he was alive, breathing, and not traumatised. Apart from keeping him under observation until the ambulance arrived, and specifically in terms of the clinical experience and equipment available, nothing more SHOULD have been done unless there was a significant deterioration.

THAT was when the St Andrews boys either stepped in or didn't step in, or were 'a shambles' or were not 'a shambles'. One thing is clearer than day. Whether or not they knew what to do, every fan within a fifty metre radius appears to have known better while standing back doing nothing but ogle! ph34r.gif

I hope I'm coming over loud and clear to you. I worked closely with the Scottish Ambulance Service for over ten years Sean, and have extensive 'hands on' experience as an 'emergency doctor'.

The general public is 'a nightmare' in situations like those- their vulture like curiosity can affect the concentration of even experienced Medics and Ambulance crew, and the perceived wisdom is to 'get them to f*ck out the road where they can't do any more harm'.

I'm totally pissed off by the ignorance and speculation, and YOU have a bloody cheek to question my judgement, particularly when I'm merely challenging unsubstantiated allegations about people who are unable to defend themselves on this forum.!

One thing is crystal clear, if I didn't know it already. The world is full of smart ass wannabe doctors and nurses! ph34r.gif


I'm sending a letter off to The St Andrews Ambulance Service this morning and will be requesting clarification particularly of the following points.

1/ Their view on Saturday's events.

2/ The statutory function of their Service at Cappielow on match days, and specifically the function and experience of the crew summoned to the incident.

It's a pity that I have to do this. It could easily have been done by any one of the previous posters if they had GENUINELY been concerned. Public lynching's MUCH more fun though. thumbdown.gif

Until I receive a response I intend to say no more on the subject, though I have a sneaking suspicion others will still 'know better'. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-15 07:45:21
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Sep 14 2008, 11:25 PM) [snapback]512527[/snapback]
Uncalled for and completely ignorant considering the circumstances.

I don't agree.

Foobs gave his opinion while unaware of Stevie's current sad circumstances.

It seems that others have called that in question, when in fact it was perfectly legitimate.

He is merely defending that legitimacy while at the same time offering his condolences.
mortonjag 2008-09-15 08:07:22
QUOTE(longboat @ Sep 15 2008, 01:49 AM) [snapback]512540[/snapback]
I wasn't having a go at you, I just commented that I believe the players DO care that they are not winning.

I agree that the fans are entitled to get their money's worth for watching a game, but players should not receive the level of abuse that they get. It's not helping things.

We are all entitled to vote with our feet. If the football is not at the standard you want, go and watch the OF games. You are guaranteed better results and value for your pound. I think I know what you reaction will be to that.

I didn't think I used (m)any cliches, but I meant every word of it.

I agree with pretty much all you said in the big spiel, but I'm slightly concerned about your comments on our wee massage board.

My opinion is that the players are more than welcome to read this forum if they wish, but it's very much a case of 'caveat emptor'.

This IS the correct place to let off steam. When players do well there is never any shortage of compliments-indeed they are often portrayed IMHO as far better than they really are. Similarly when players under perform they will receive varying degrees of condemnation.

A good example is Wakey. When he came here he was-for starters- a JM signing, and labelled a 'panic buy'.

His form in the first half dozen matches was absolutely abysmal-so poor in fact that I openly criticised him, and I'm not in the habit of wantonly criticising players. The abuse he took here was arguably the worst I've seen of any player for many a year.

Wakey's head could-indeed if you are to be believed, should have gone right down, but immense credit to the boy-he just kept plugging away, and not only pulled a rabbit out of the hat in the final two games last season, but has been a powerhouse up front for us ever since.

Maybe other players are adversely affected, but it's a big bad world, and as port ton correctly says they are being paid big men's wages.

If their form is affected adversely by reading this daft wee forum, there is a simple remedy!
mortonjag 2008-09-15 08:15:04
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Sep 15 2008, 07:49 AM) [snapback]512550[/snapback]
Don't you have a pint of milk, rolls and papers you should be collecting at this time in the morning. Or have you sent the Monkey out in the rain ? The poor b@rsteward.........

The Monkey has an umbrella.
mortonjag 2008-09-15 08:32:34
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 15 2008, 07:56 AM) [snapback]512551[/snapback]
You're thinking of Kipper McHaddock. He was signed but didn't make it onto the bench on Saturday because he told Irons he couldn't handle the goldfish bowl that is Cappielow.

There is much carping at you Peter.
mortonjag 2008-09-15 08:34:23
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 15 2008, 08:19 AM) [snapback]512558[/snapback]
If you believe thats why our attendances are dropping then you are completely stark raving bonkers. laugh.gif

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He didn't claim it was the ONLY reason.

Most folk seem agreed on the main reason!
mortonjag 2008-09-15 08:42:04
QUOTE(jimmy boag delivers @ Sep 15 2008, 08:32 AM) [snapback]512560[/snapback]
That is exactly what Irons said after the match in the hospitality suite. He didn't single out any players but admitted that as good as we were defensively, we didn't break 4-3-3 as quickly as he would have liked. There was too much of a gap between Wake and the midfield and it is something to be worked on.

My own take is that Jenkins was way off the pace and McGuffie didn't impose himself. For the 4-5-1 to work, you not only need your wide men to make the runs, you also need the two attacking centre midfielders to work the passes in the middle and to quickly support the lone front man. That just didn't happen. Russell showed some good flashes of skill coming in off the wing and running direct at defenders but Jim was just too deep to make an impression.

It was by far an exhilarating game but it's a another clean sheet against a decent attacking side so we have to take the positives.

We still need at least one decent winger and a thrusting attacking midfielder/playmaker. Hopefully Jenkins will come good in respect of the latter.

Jimbo and superkev are ALWAYS going to be 'hit or miss'-sometimes they catch opposing defences out because they are unorthodox, but I'd far rather see the wings used properly, crosses coming over regularly, and the inevitable resultant goals.
mortonjag 2008-09-15 09:03:09
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 15 2008, 08:43 AM) [snapback]512564[/snapback]
I don't see where he suggested it was just one of a few reasons. rolleyes.gif

....and I don't see where he suggested it wasn't! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-15 09:22:58
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 15 2008, 07:26 AM) [snapback]512548[/snapback]
Is this a Unionist plot ?

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The bleak weather in Scotland means inhabitants are twice as likely as their English neighbours to suffer from a vitamin D deficiency.

In fact, the average Scot has a vitamin D level that is four times lower than those living south of the border.
Gidday Dr MJ,

Is this true ?

Does this matter, or are Pommie levels excessive ??


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http://health.ninemsn.com.au/healthnews/?b...owcomments=true

It is absolutely true. His name is Farquhar Summers and he lives in a cave on Staffa.
mortonjag 2008-09-15 09:27:05
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 15 2008, 09:05 AM) [snapback]512568[/snapback]
No he's not - he's an SNP MP. Pay attention!

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Indeed-he's not one of Bawheid's weans yet!
mortonjag 2008-09-15 09:34:38
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 15 2008, 09:20 AM) [snapback]512573[/snapback]
Tom, I've already politely asked you many, many times to desist from referring to my condition on this messageboard.
Again, untrue. The current police recruitment levels outstrip those that are retiring, so there is already a net increase in police officers. I refer you my to previous link which show that current police numbers are at record high levels.

Also, the deal was for 1000 more officers by 2011. It's still only 2008, just incase you're not sure.

Tom, can I suggest to you that your anti-SNP rants would be somewhat more credible and therefore more effective if they didn't consist solely of downright lies.

If you have a genuine illness and feel that others are mentioning it inappropriately, it might be a good idea to either openly say what it is, or to p.m. people with details if you feel they've been unfair.

At the moment I'm with Mr Bam on this when he talks about an 'undisclosed medical condition'.

All I have gleaned so far is that you are a wee man with ginger hair, and I don't see that as a medical condition.
mortonjag 2008-09-15 09:38:00
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 15 2008, 09:35 AM) [snapback]512579[/snapback]
... a bit like the lonely prisoner.

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Who was intracellular?
mortonjag 2008-09-15 09:40:18
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 15 2008, 08:11 AM) [snapback]512555[/snapback]
Muslim cleric Abdul Nacer Benbrika has been convicted of leading a terrorist cell which plotted attacks on Melbourne that could have killed thousands.
During the 115-day trial which began in February, jurors heard the men, who were arrested in 2005, were accused of planning terrorist acts in Melbourne, involving explosives or weapons.

The jury heard Benbrika, also known as Sheik Abu Bakr, had told his followers it was "permissible to kill women, children and the aged" and that the group needed to kill at least 1,000 non-believers to make the Australian government withdraw soldiers from Iraq and Afghanistan.

The court was also told the group had planned to bomb the MCG when it was packed with close to 100,000 people at the 2005 AFL grand final and had also planned to attack Crown Casino during the 2006 Australian Formula One Grand Prix and a pre-season AFL game.
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/631422...-a-terror-group
Bomb the MCG with a crowd of 100,000 ?

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That's just not cricket.
mortonjag 2008-09-15 09:42:51
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Sep 15 2008, 09:08 AM) [snapback]512570[/snapback]
As I've said before, the abuse and general bad language dished out these days is nothing compared to when I started going to see the Ton and from what I gather going back even further. As Port Ton and others have said, whilst the fair minded among us agree shouting personal abuse serves no purpose, it is something footballers at all levels have been subjected to and I am of the opinion that professional players should be able to handle it.

As for attendances dropping, that is more to do with the fact that watching football is no longer a cheap Saturday afternoon pastime and people have finally realised that blind faith and devotion is no longer a reason for spending hard earned cash and time away from the family to watch rubbish. If only Mr Rae realised this too.

I think he's quite set in his ways.
mortonjag 2008-09-15 09:44:54
QUOTE(Lost in Space @ Sep 14 2008, 04:21 PM) [snapback]512283[/snapback]
Ok, yesterday's performance was utterly dismal in almost every respect. QoS bossed that game for 60 minutes, during which our midfield was posted missing. It's a good job their strikers were off colour or it would have been a mauling. However, they got tired, let us back into it, and went a man down. We still could not capitalise! Our set pieces were rank. Our control of the ball was shocking, and we were bereft of ideas.

You might call this an over-reaction, but we already look like a relegated side. I can't see us getting any points in the next 3 games. Which will leave us with 3 points with a quarter of the season gone. That will be very hard to recover from in my opinion. I fear we may be doomed.

I believe we'll finish fifth! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-15 09:48:28
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 15 2008, 09:15 AM) [snapback]512572[/snapback]
We need a decent striker. Wake is pretty average, works hard but he's not really much good in the air and he doesn't appear to have lightning pace. Russell is a pretty good winger and seems to be able to dribble through defences, but we need him further forward. And FFS why do we persist with conventional corners that never lead to anything. Once Kevin came on, he was hanging around 30 yards out at corners and if they had been pulled back to him he could have had a shot. As it was, Thomson and Barr got to virtually everything, one Dominic Shimmin header apart. And don't get me started on the terrible free kicks. Or the constant high balls into the area. We have players who can run at defences, so why don't they?

Neither Kev nor Jimbo can shoot for peanuts-hadn't you noticed. Aye they've both scored two or three great goals when it just came right for them, but they are actually very poor in the shooting stakes.
mortonjag 2008-09-15 11:53:28
QUOTE(Mr Toon @ Sep 15 2008, 11:37 AM) [snapback]512612[/snapback]
..................with which five teams below us? Before the season started I would have thought, ever the optimist, Clyde, Ross County, Airdrie, Livingston and possibly Partick. Now I haven't a clue, and certainly expect Livi to finish above us. I think the Airdrie result was just one of these days and am not sure how they'll do over the season and we'll have a better idea about Partick after Saturday.

At the moment if someone could guarantee me eighth I'd grab it with both hands..............but 'fifth', I certainly hope you are right!

It's still pretty early in the season, and we're still struggling to find any kind of settled side with injuries, and with Newby off on loan.

We've shown in the cup matches that we CAN win-we just need to go on a wee run and will start to climb the league.

It's the football as a spectacle which I object to, and that, unfortunately won't be attracting many more to Cappielow.
mortonjag 2008-09-15 12:08:18
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 15 2008, 10:21 AM) [snapback]512594[/snapback]
Don't quite know why you felt the need to get involved in this and give us your tuppensworth MJ.

I have no intention of playing PM ping-pong with Tom to explain my medical condition to him. I've politely asked you and Tom on countless occasions to kindly stop referring to it, and in your case the penny seems to have dropped and for that I thank you. Tom on the other hand persists.

And I don't have ginger hair. rolleyes.gif


Well that's even more information I didn't have before!

I have stopped referring to you as anything other than normal because you clearly got upset when I did the opposite, but I still don't know one way or another anything about the 'medical condition' you say you have.

I know we touched on dwarfism at one point but I'm not clear as to whether or not you do suffer from dwarfism. If you do, and if you state you do, I think it will be unreasonable if others continue to make comments about your height.

The trouble is that unless you do, they may simply assume that you are trying to 'steal a march' on them, and let's face it CHC, you're NOT slow to have a go at other posters in a manner which they might find offensive.
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 15 2008, 10:59 AM) [snapback]512605[/snapback]
I have.

Do I get a prize ?

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How tall are you, and do you suffer from any medical conditions, real or imagined, which might render you the victim of unfair abuse?
mortonjag 2008-09-15 12:20:28
QUOTE(Ghost @ Sep 15 2008, 10:57 AM) [snapback]512603[/snapback]
MJ could answer that one

Rickets is very uncommon those days. I'd be worried about hypervitaminosis D if the public read too much into that article.

The wee picture shows a child affected by rickets.
mortonjag 2008-09-15 12:49:22
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Sep 15 2008, 12:26 PM) [snapback]512627[/snapback]
C'mon the tiggers

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mortonjag 2008-09-15 12:53:31
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 15 2008, 12:46 PM) [snapback]512635[/snapback]
MJ - for the last time - I have absolutely no intention or desire to discuss my medical history and conditions, past or present, with you or anyone else on here.

Now, once again, can I please ask you to drop the subject.

You already stated that I HAVE dropped the subject.

Why are you quoting a reply to NewTon?
mortonjag 2008-09-15 13:05:47
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Sep 15 2008, 12:52 PM) [snapback]512638[/snapback]
I take it 'long in the tooth' is your new 'polite' way referring to my age. Of course I recognise that image, presentation and personality are important for political success, indeed those very qualities take precedence over the substance of policy and ideology. Maybe that's why we are so poorly served by the current crop of slippery, spin doctor driven bunch of three card trick artists that currently pass for politicians. Who's being 'a tad naive' ? Not me I think.

It refers to an unpleasant medical condition associated with the ageing process Mr Edwards-gum recession it's called.

I'd guess that some folk wouldn't take too kindly to others mocking their medical conditions-real or imagined.
mortonjag 2008-09-15 15:23:02
QUOTE(cmdc @ Sep 15 2008, 02:48 PM) [snapback]512673[/snapback]
We survived relegation by a goal on the final game of the season, and went into the game bottom of the league. Making ourselves big and hard to beat has to be the prioroty before we do anything else. Not pretty, not going to bring the crowds flocking back, but it might well be something we have to endure.

Not the worst point in the world, and on the back of a good result down in Dumfries it's been a decent enough week's work.

I don't buy into that at all.

It's a bit like the story we believed about JM having this wonderful training set up with heart monitors and check ups at Dundee Uni, until we discovered they were all playing ping pong in the nookie.

Why BIG and hard to beat?

Why not wee and impossible to defend against?

Just a thought! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-15 15:31:30
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 15 2008, 02:18 PM) [snapback]512661[/snapback]
Thought I would grab a cup of tea from the canteen and on the short way there I passed:

A couple winching in the corridor, on entering the canteen, two guys are heading out holding hands like long lost love burds. After buying my tea, I head back to my deck, only to pass some woman in camo trousers and a pair of light green wellies, followed by some girl with more piercings than I could count. Then walks by some very small guy talking away to him self in a full blown conversation.

Thought, this place is full of weirdos, I can see how I fit right in...

Is this common place in other call centres?

How would I know-I used to be a f*ckin doctor-remember!
mortonjag 2008-09-15 15:48:22 I have thought up a new game to keep us occupied. I make no secret of the fact that it's not an entirely novel pursuit, but it works a wee bit like this. If somebody says anything about you that you don't like, you ask them to stop making a fool of you 'because of your medical condition'. The only difference here is that you're allowed to then challenge them and try to make them tell you what's wrong.

Right-here goes-say Boozie has just called me a POUFFE and I claim he's making a fool of my medical condition-he might come back with

are you saying POUFFES are ill Doc?


Oh F*CK it probably won't work but it seemed like a good idea at the time.
mortonjag 2008-09-15 15:59:33
QUOTE(Jim @ Sep 15 2008, 03:43 PM) [snapback]512683[/snapback]
if d.i. thinks he can play for 60mins of each game with these tatics and not lose any goals he is kidding himself. if Q.O.S. had scored and went on to win the game. he would have got roasted for his tatics. could d.i.tell the fans before the next home game if he is going to play the same tatics,if he is i for one wont be there wasting 15pounds to watch that dross.

Indeed-it's easy to be wise after the fact-for BOTH Managers.

They could have been three or four up at half time on chances-they actually made more than Airdrie did in the first-and we'd have been dead and buried, the fans would have been drifting off early in their droves, and Rae would yet again be going loopy.

As it transpired after Tosh was sent off Chisholm more or less settled for the draw, and allowed us to go at them, and sure, we COULD have got a winner-indeed if we had any creativity from midfield or any decent crosses going over we probably would have.

At the moment DI is simply talking a good game to save face. If he honestly thinks we can play that pure crap every week and start climbing the table, he's dafter than McInally was, and that would be SOME achievement.

mortonjag 2008-09-15 16:17:49
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Sep 15 2008, 04:13 PM) [snapback]512695[/snapback]
Oh for Jesus sake, look at whit's happened, Big Ears and Noddy have fell oot.

Toytown is going to be devastated.

Stop being so precious ya pair of bufties.

TonInDublin

HA-so that's what's wrong with him-he has spasmus nutans.

JEEZUZ-I hope Bam doesn't start going on about having a nodding acquaintance with somebody or he'll be reportit.!
mortonjag 2008-09-15 16:30:12
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Sep 15 2008, 03:55 PM) [snapback]512687[/snapback]
My liver's in too good a state to make much sense of this. No doubt all will be revealed when the fog lifts smile.gif

It's quite clear to me that you just have difficulty in seeing anything-AND you drink too much!
mortonjag 2008-09-15 16:32:23
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 15 2008, 03:48 PM) [snapback]512684[/snapback]
Sounds like call centre material all of them tongue.gif

Don't get that in us lovely finance areas. In fact my break place has sky sports news on the telly and free browsing of the net. And the talent is quite superb surprisingly.

I think I like my job smile.gif

Asda checkouts?

QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 15 2008, 03:55 PM) [snapback]512686[/snapback]
You'll get struck off for doing that rolleyes.gif

Please refrain from mocking my medical condition!
mortonjag 2008-09-15 16:45:30
QUOTE(MaxTon1874 @ Sep 15 2008, 04:12 PM) [snapback]512694[/snapback]
Considering that Gretna won this league and went to the SPL. They were a team who were doing great until Brooks Mileson took seriously ill and had to stop funding the club. Before all the crap with him taking ill and them going bust because of funds, they had a chairman who wasn’t tight fisted and scared to buy SPL standard players for almost every position in the park. Davie irons and supper row had much more talent to choose a team from. I mean be serious what team in division 2 at the time could afford the likes of Innes, McGuffie, Skelton, Jenkins, Duechar, Tosh, Bingham, Grady, Main.

If Mileson Didn’t take ill and stopped funding them they would still be going strong. Are we a Gretna in disguise ehh NO, Are yous insane ?????????? What part of us is even close to the way Gretna were ??????? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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It's a f*cking bizarre illness which prevents others from signing cheques.

Mileson was a rogue and a charlatan who got pissed off with his wee game probably because he fell out with Alexander.

The fly man par excellence is still at large somewhere-possibly chatting to the Manager of some small County club as he doubles up as groundsman! rip.gif thumbdown.gif eek.gif nerd.gif bag.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-15 16:49:46
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Sep 15 2008, 04:36 PM) [snapback]512708[/snapback]
The voices are explaining the rules to me at the moment..... i'll get back in a wee while.

I heard you're into classical music ape-something of a scherzo freak I'm led to believe.
mortonjag 2008-09-15 16:53:02
QUOTE(cataTONic @ Sep 15 2008, 04:49 PM) [snapback]512721[/snapback]
Ye I know and you are 'testing'. dry.gif

Four posts and already you are mocking my medical condition-the big Mod will have you-that will be fitting treatment for you Catty Tony.
mortonjag 2008-09-15 17:07:05
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Sep 15 2008, 04:47 PM) [snapback]512718[/snapback]
When did Dougie grow a ponytail? unsure.gif

Here he is leaving the Director's box

mortonjag 2008-09-15 17:09:23
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 15 2008, 05:01 PM) [snapback]512726[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-09-15 17:48:35
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 15 2008, 05:20 PM) [snapback]512736[/snapback]
If's but's and maybe's.
They didn't score. We got one more point than we acheived agiant them last season at Cappielow, despite poor individual performances and coming off the back of a drubbing.
It's about tim we had a manager who sorts the problems from the back forward - they looked comfortable on Saturday, now to work on the midfield, then attack.
Queens are a better footballing side thean ourselves and its about time a few people took a reality check.

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mortonjag 2008-09-15 17:51:46 Mocking my medical condition again I see-I shall set my guide dog upon you. He is fed on raw meat you know-raw meat!
mortonjag 2008-09-15 18:30:02
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 15 2008, 05:29 PM) [snapback]512738[/snapback]
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You'll be PC Plod then I take it. tongue.gif

I DO hope he has a healthy truncheon.
mortonjag 2008-09-15 18:31:17
QUOTE(forza ton @ Sep 15 2008, 06:05 PM) [snapback]512759[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-09-15 18:33:08
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 15 2008, 06:04 PM) [snapback]512754[/snapback]
I'll eat you dug dear doctor. laugh.gif

OMG-you're a cannibal! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-15 18:36:41
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 15 2008, 06:04 PM) [snapback]512757[/snapback]
Seeing as we're in that sort of mood today: a senior moment? unsure.gif

He announced it to me SPARROT-ask him if you disbelieve me-just mention Mortonjag!
mortonjag 2008-09-15 18:41:26
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 15 2008, 05:51 PM) [snapback]512745[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDStranger things have happened. I'm sure AD will be quite happy with the way things are progressing.
mortonjag 2008-09-15 18:45:04
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 15 2008, 06:23 PM) [snapback]512767[/snapback]
Name names.

Duncan, Douglas, Crawford, Arthur, Fred, Bill, Algernon-I know some ladies names too...

Matilda, Gertrude, Evangeline, Bridget, Senga.
mortonjag 2008-09-15 18:49:38
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 15 2008, 06:34 PM) [snapback]512782[/snapback]
Thought you were never wrong? happy.gif

Tesco?
mortonjag 2008-09-15 20:07:55
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 15 2008, 06:47 PM) [snapback]512791[/snapback]
You've insulted your own intelligence with that speculative nonsense.

Speculative nonsense eh! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-15 20:09:26
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 15 2008, 07:04 PM) [snapback]512800[/snapback]
Just couldn't find the back of the net!!

Goalie narrowed the angle?
mortonjag 2008-09-15 20:13:00
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 15 2008, 07:24 PM) [snapback]512806[/snapback]
Dean Keenan got a hat-trick on saturday.

Senga, Bridget, and Bernadette?
mortonjag 2008-09-15 20:16:10
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 15 2008, 06:50 PM) [snapback]512795[/snapback]
...never wrong and don't make mistakes, doing well sir

Put it this way, your council tax pays for me...thank you very much. smile.gif

Glasgow bin man?
mortonjag 2008-09-15 20:21:52
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 15 2008, 08:12 PM) [snapback]512821[/snapback]
What's this about ginger dwarfs...my ears are burning!

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mortonjag 2008-09-15 20:40:40
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 15 2008, 08:20 PM) [snapback]512829[/snapback]
You can tell just how old by the names you chose. laugh.gif Surprise you didn't go for Agnes.

Agnes is a dog.
mortonjag 2008-09-15 20:49:52
QUOTE(Julie-Anne @ Sep 15 2008, 08:20 PM) [snapback]512830[/snapback]
Theres a black swan with a red beak at Cardwell Bay.......Native to Australia but apparently a small number were brought to the UK for 'decorative purposes' and a few have escaped to the wild over the years!

Amazing..... rolleyes.gif

mortonjag 2008-09-15 20:58:26
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Sep 15 2008, 08:45 PM) [snapback]512852[/snapback]
I'm descended from irish immigrants and i dont find it offensive...... besides celtic fans aren't exactly renowned for singing pleasant ditties towards rangers fans are they ?

both sides are as bad as each other and for one side to complain just smacks of hypocricy !
Anyway, f*** the Old firm !!! mad.gif

Of course they are and anybody who thinks otherwise is a biased c*nt.

I couldn't give a f*ck if both lots rip each other into tiny pieces, and I just wish all Morton fans shared that vision of reality.


oh and


GOD SAVE THE QUEEN


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mortonjag 2008-09-15 21:05:08
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 15 2008, 08:49 PM) [snapback]512857[/snapback]
His top was too small, he couldn't fillet.

For goodness hake!
mortonjag 2008-09-15 21:21:32 The Monkey just asked why so many people are interested in a thread about Proddies and Calf Licks, that's got nothing to do with Morton.
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mortonjag 2008-09-15 21:24:33
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 15 2008, 09:16 PM) [snapback]512902[/snapback]
Yeah, apparently he got pissed off because his younger brother had to pay sixsquid to get in.

Just as well nobody had knocked the purse.
mortonjag 2008-09-15 21:33:30
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 15 2008, 09:13 PM) [snapback]512900[/snapback]
For all CHC knows I could have a serious mental condition and he keeps referring to me as 'miserable'. Shocking really. mad.gif

It is extremely shocking. I'd imagine our posters have any number of medical conditions which they don't dream of complaining about. Morton fans are stoics. Who the f*ck does he think he is getting so bloody precious about his!

Anyway Davie-do you think that if I out myself as a manic depressive I can get him banned no matter WHAT he says about me? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-15 21:35:08
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 15 2008, 09:28 PM) [snapback]512914[/snapback]
MJ that looks nothing like me
I'm far hairier!

I got it from Princess-she claims she took it with a hidden camera! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-15 22:12:17
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Sep 15 2008, 09:36 PM) [snapback]512926[/snapback]
Dr Mentaljag outs himsef as mental? That wouldn't be news. biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 15 2008, 09:48 PM) [snapback]512930[/snapback]
Trying to get fellow posters banned now are you MJ, deary, deary me. rolleyes.gif

I'd encourage you to report any of my posts that you find or have found offensive and I will gladly accept any sanctions or punishments the mods deem to be appropriate.

Fill yer boots! laugh.gif

Twisting my words confuses me-have you no respect for my medical condition? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-15 22:17:02
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 15 2008, 09:29 PM) [snapback]512918[/snapback]
Which would be why its in General Nonsense - why are so many interested in say, Glasvegas?
The Monkey ought to be going to bed soon anyway... wink.gif

Fing sez ure kard's markt!

QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 15 2008, 10:10 PM) [snapback]512940[/snapback]
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Don't forget he hides it down his socks.

I'm off to flush Fatty O'Keech's heid doon the lavvy pan.

Don't do it-I didn't mean to be so cruel. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-15 22:19:28
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 15 2008, 09:29 PM) [snapback]512917[/snapback]
Pretty sure I said finance further up happy.gif

Provvy agent?
mortonjag 2008-09-15 22:21:53
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 15 2008, 09:29 PM) [snapback]512915[/snapback]
He did...think about it wink.gif

Angus has a lovely little pink botty.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 06:44:26 I'm skint



Oh-and yer football's crap too.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 06:56:24
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 16 2008, 01:39 AM) [snapback]512970[/snapback]
"We did a lot of research on David Irons, and found him to be an excellent coach, a man-manager, and I learned that he did most of the coaching and tactics at Gretna when he was the assistant to Rowan Alexander.

He is ambitious, as ambitious as myself and my family are for Morton, and we will now move towards achieving some realistic goals."
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Are you attempting to mock me Mr NewTon.

I shall be sending you another invoice if there's any more of your nonsense.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 06:58:02
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Sep 16 2008, 01:43 AM) [snapback]512971[/snapback]
Good.

Is your poosy's name Susie?
mortonjag 2008-09-16 07:06:42
QUOTE(Dr Zhivago @ Sep 15 2008, 11:58 PM) [snapback]512958[/snapback]
That really is pretty ironic. They want more families at Cappielow yet they seem to be clamping down on the traditional 'punt over' for tiny kids... doesn't add up.

As it is, every time I take my son to games , without paying him in, it usually means that the club gets more money in the long run. Part of his day is to get food and drinks, which I never usually bother with if he's not with me, so inevitably while I'm up (or one of his uncles.. in case they read this!) getting things for him, we'll also buy something for the adults. So Morton got about another tenner for catering on Saturday that they wouldn't have had if my wee boy hadn't been there... they're being very short sighted on this.

I think I'll write to the club again on this... see if I get some acknowledgement this time. As it is I won't be taking my son back to Cappielow until I feel the entrance fee is value for money... right now he just sits at my feet eating and drinking and trying to dig up the terracing with the plastic stirrers! I had actually been looking at the official site last week about registering him for the 'Cappie' fan club... but they can take a hike.

My advice is that you write directly to Mary Davidson at Golden Casket.

Your first paragraph should explain that you've been a Morton supporter all your life, and have never stopped being grateful to Mr Rae for saving the club.

Go on to say that you are a single parent who has fallen on hard times, but that you still get to as many matches as you can afford-the trouble being that the cost for yourself AND your seven children under nine years of age has become prohibitive, and would it just be possible if you only had to pay for six on alternate visits.

I think that might do the trick.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 07:10:06
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 16 2008, 05:09 AM) [snapback]512979[/snapback]
Has anyone noticed the fish pun thread comes up once every couple of months? laugh.gif

The fish pun Fred is a bi-menstrual surface feeder.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 07:12:16
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Sep 15 2008, 09:31 PM) [snapback]512921[/snapback]
I confess that my eyesight isn't what it used to be although I'm rather proud of my liver as it's probably my best (and most checked) organ. The demon drink has not passed my lips for many a year now. However please desist from mentioning my long list of other complaints, deseases and all round deficiencies.

I'd not dream of mentioning your willie on here, wood eye?
mortonjag 2008-09-16 07:20:30
QUOTE(Strewthmiboab @ Sep 15 2008, 10:24 PM) [snapback]512947[/snapback]
If you are that bothered, why don't you check with the General Medical Council? If its fair game for Ali Donald to have his credentials checked I am sure mortonjag won't mind you having a wee look at his. LoL. That didn't cum out right there. Does it really matter?


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This could prove extremely interesting! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-16 07:24:46
QUOTE(forza ton @ Sep 15 2008, 10:47 PM) [snapback]512950[/snapback]
it's rich for rangers fans to be sending anyone "home". many,many immigrants who came from ireland to scotland were protestants from belfast who brought just as much bile with them as the other mob.

btw whats so offensive about "hun"? i just read a magic book about attila the hun smile.gif

Yeah-I just love the bit where he waves his orange wand and 'Abracadabra' all the Tims disappear with a big POUFFE.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 07:56:30
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 15 2008, 10:17 PM) [snapback]512943[/snapback]
Once again, if you feel that I have been insensitive to any medical condition you have on this or any other thread then I urge you report it to the mods who will take the appropriate actions.

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I presume the Mods would firstly arrange an independent medical assessment to prove or disprove the claimed 'medical condition'-you see-a wee photie would not always be sufficient! laugh.gif

QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 16 2008, 01:59 AM) [snapback]512975[/snapback]
who will take the appropriate actions.

Can one or more of the mods fix medical conditions ?

Where should I send my wee list ?

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mortonjag 2008-09-16 07:59:15
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 14 2008, 12:08 PM) [snapback]512167[/snapback]
Sorry, am I missing something here. Isn't a low mortality rate a good thing? unsure.gif

Not in poisonous snakes.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 08:04:42
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 16 2008, 07:49 AM) [snapback]512998[/snapback]
Gidday jag,

Should it not be nine children under 7 years of age ??

More mouths to feed ?

More children to become adult supporters.

Let them eat Millions.

I reckon seven children under nine years of age is just about physiologically possible, but nine under seven-naw!

Wee Bridget Murphy had ten under the age of fourteen. She had always wanted her own family football team but sadly had to give up with no inside left.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 08:08:28 [quote name='NewTon' date='Sep 16 2008, 07:50 AM' post='512999']
Sir, I am just quoting your own words.

Honest.
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You are twisting my words young man and I'll have none of it. I may indeed have written those words but my words are supposed to be interpreted properly. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-16 08:13:02
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 16 2008, 08:06 AM) [snapback]513010[/snapback]
why do you laugh at Italians ?

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Maybe somebody once rammed a double nougat up his arse sideways.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 08:43:17
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 16 2008, 08:21 AM) [snapback]513019[/snapback]
... you don't believe in multiple births ?

After she gave up, was wee Bridget's husband left right out ?

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I most certainly believe in multiple births-I can hardly move in Lidl's for bloody double buggies laden with weans and crates of Tennent's Lager.

Paddy wasn't really too bothered-he wasn't into football in a big way though he enjoyed the odd punt.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 08:51:32
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 16 2008, 08:31 AM) [snapback]513021[/snapback]
Dear sir,

I do my best to remember all your commandments, including:
The talking is about to stop!

The last instructions to the players have been given;



keep the ball on the ground

make passes

first to the ball

close them down fast

lie wide

get the ball over

be patient


are just a few of the instructions that have been assimilated in the minds of the players.
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And I am very pleased that the instructions that have been assimilated in the minds of the players.

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That's much better Mr Newton, and it filled me with pride and pleasure to see us move onward and upward with a sparkling performance against our old rivals from Dumfries, whose Chairman has the same name as me though he's younger and not so wealthy, and who has been my personal and great friend and rival since almost as long as I can remember, on Saturday when we were cruelly denied a thoroughly deserved victory by the woodwork which contrived to get in the way of Iain Russell, who's having a marvellous season don't you think's shot.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 09:09:53
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 16 2008, 09:05 AM) [snapback]513036[/snapback]
MJ, you REALLY are DDFR, aren't you.

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I am he.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 09:12:27
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 16 2008, 08:47 AM) [snapback]513027[/snapback]
Did they move from the Punt to the Euro to reduce the birth rate ?

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Indeed Newt-the price of reconditioned condoms dropped by 50% overnight.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 09:24:29
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 16 2008, 09:06 AM) [snapback]513037[/snapback]
Oh I'm sure they'd take your word for it, you were a doctor after all. rolleyes.gif

I am indeed a doctor and would not expect any special indulgences from our good Mods.

My take is that we should all be big enough to cope with our misfortunes without bleating about them.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 09:32:07 It doesn't matter in the slightest to me if one lot is perceived to be 'worse' than the other at any given moment.

They are both at it big style.

I think it's pointless dissecting the lyrics of some daft choon in an attempt to establish a pecking order for bigotry.

The big picture is that those who indulge their hatred in whichever form and to whatever degree do a disservice to their fellow fans and to Scottish football.

The authorities should attempt to take more preventive action.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 09:36:18
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 16 2008, 09:17 AM) [snapback]513046[/snapback]
Gidday beermonkey,

You can, but you may not.

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He'll work that one out by next Tuesday!
mortonjag 2008-09-16 09:41:17 I have e-mailed the club on several occasions without reply. On one occasion I then e-mailed Mr Rae's personal secretary, and have to say my enquiry was dealt with quickly and efficiently.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 09:43:39
QUOTE(Ballboy @ Sep 16 2008, 09:41 AM) [snapback]513056[/snapback]
I once emailed them and asked them on their opinon on the Iraq war and never got a reply sad.gif

Perhaps it was the way you worded it.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 09:48:01
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Sep 16 2008, 09:24 AM) [snapback]513050[/snapback]
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Oh but it is nonsense CHC. Just how long does it take for a derivative to become a language in its own right? Take your argument to its logical extreme and you'll be saying that all european languages are dialects of the Sanskrit. Is Scots Gaelic a dialect of Irish Gaelic? How 'indigenous' is that then?

In fifty years time that may very well be the case. shutup.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-16 09:51:28
QUOTE(Ballboy @ Sep 16 2008, 09:48 AM) [snapback]513059[/snapback]
Quite possibly. However maybe they had better things to do like run a football club.

I agree wholeheartedly-I wish folk would stop sending them silly e-mails. They are clearly putting them right off the task in hand.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 10:01:18
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 16 2008, 09:54 AM) [snapback]513064[/snapback]
You're splitting hairs now you argumantative old sausage you, and well you know it! laugh.gif

I think most people would not consider Doric or Lellic to be anything other than a distinctive regional dialects of English. Few, with the exception of your good self, would argue that is a completely seperate language in it's own right.

Scots Gaelic, on the other hand, undisputably is.

I don't know enough about the differences between Irish and Scots Gaelic to give an opinion on that, though I suspect they two derivatives of the same language much like Afrikaans and Dutch. I believe for example the Scots and Irish gaelic speakers can, for the most part, understand one another in the same way that Dutch and Afrikaans speakers can.

Can you please inform me as to whether that is written in Lellic or Doric?
mortonjag 2008-09-16 10:34:55
QUOTE(GMFC14 @ Sep 16 2008, 10:15 AM) [snapback]513079[/snapback]
FUD!

What a bizarre nickname!

Was 'Fud' three years above you at school?
mortonjag 2008-09-16 10:41:07
QUOTE(Ballboy @ Sep 16 2008, 09:59 AM) [snapback]513065[/snapback]
The difference here is that I actually mean it. The club do give oppertunities for fans to discuss such issues with them, more so than other clubs.

Cowshed.......

Instead of b!tching on here, have you tried contacting them directly, the one time that I didnt get a reply I contacted the club and was given different contact details and lo and behold I got a reply.

You might find that the club will give your enquiry a little more credit if you contact them and deal with them and not contact them and then come running on here when you dont hear from them.

The way some people talk about the club on here is like they hail from the home of the great unwashed.

Right i've had my bit, i'm now preparing to be slaughtered.

The club apparently answers e-mails when they feel it is appropriate.

QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Sep 16 2008, 10:03 AM) [snapback]513067[/snapback]
are you serious ??? tell us.. just how high a priority do you think the club should put on ignoring the very people they rely on for the finances needed to run the club.... get sensible will you, it is in fact a very serious issue, the club are continually ignoring and distancing themselves from the very people they are asking to come out and support them in the media !!

Douglas Rae and Morton have something that other clubs would cut their own hand of for.. fans who ACTUALLY want to spend some money and get INVOLVED in the club... yet they are constantly ignored or belittled ! dont make sense !

That would appear to be the case.



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belive me it sent... and they did recive it..... I also prefer to have things in writing, saves time having to prove things if I have to take legal action.

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mortonjag 2008-09-16 10:47:44
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 16 2008, 10:05 AM) [snapback]513068[/snapback]
I am a terrible speller MJ, I can't deny it, but thanks for reminding me nevertheless. blush.gif

We weren't all lucky enough to enjoy a Grammar School education you know! smile.gif

PS - Errors now correct (I think).

It was PISHLEY Grammar.

You call that luck! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-16 10:51:19
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 16 2008, 10:28 AM) [snapback]513085[/snapback]
Its all very hypocritical. Bigots on one side taunting bigots on the other side, oh wait, we all live in the one country.

I blame the divide imposed on our children when they reach five years of age.

I could not give a f*** about some tottie famine in a foreign land 150 years ago, the same as I don't give a f*** about a poofter side saddled on a horse over 300 hundred years ago.

Lets the morons get on with it.

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QUOTE(Boozehound @ Sep 16 2008, 10:45 AM) [snapback]513101[/snapback]
I completely disagree with that, although I'm only going on my own experience. In my opinion, Celtic fans are far more bitter and twisted than their Rangers counterparts, particularly in Inverclyde. I know followers of both teams though who genuinely don't give a sh*t about any of the baggage and merely follow them as football teams.

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Tweedledum and Tweedledee
Agreed to have a battle;
For Tweedledum said Tweedledee
Had spoiled his nice new rattle.

Just then flew down a monstrous crow,
As black as a tar-barrel;
Which frightened both the heroes so,
They quite forgot their quarrel.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 10:54:12
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 16 2008, 10:37 AM) [snapback]513095[/snapback]
I think it was all Mark Yardley's fault.

If 'ifs' and 'ands' were pots and pans, there'd be no work for tinkers!
mortonjag 2008-09-16 10:57:14
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 16 2008, 10:50 AM) [snapback]513106[/snapback]
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Will it ever get in?
mortonjag 2008-09-16 10:59:04
QUOTE(Ghost @ Sep 16 2008, 10:52 AM) [snapback]513111[/snapback]
A quick reply might have been down to thinking you were Ravanelli ph34r.gif

Not sure about the 'elli' bit! laugh.gif
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mortonjag 2008-09-16 11:17:48
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Sep 16 2008, 10:57 AM) [snapback]513114[/snapback]
It's true Doc, I genuinely know a few non-bigot OF fans. Seriously. ph34r.gif

Wasn't laughing at you Boozie-just at the whole ridiculous joke.

My partner's a Hun. She was at Ibrox on Saturday with her mate who's a Killie fan. I don't believe she's bigoted. Her previous (long term) partner was a Tim.

My son in law and daughter are Celtic fans-they don't seem bigoted either.

One of my sons is a Hun-he's married to a Jew who was a Catholic (kinda complicated!!!), and I don't think he's bigoted either.

Bernadette next door's a Tim-she goes to all the matches. She never comes across as bigoted.

Indeed I've just realised that I know quite a lot of OF fans who aren't bigots.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 11:24:12
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 16 2008, 11:20 AM) [snapback]513130[/snapback]
And I know bigots in many countries who are not supporters of the Old Scum.

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big·ot
–noun
a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.


Is the Chairman of Greenock Morton a bigot?
mortonjag 2008-09-16 11:30:19
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Sep 16 2008, 11:19 AM) [snapback]513128[/snapback]
i cant believe that so many people are burying their heads in the sand over this. the whole incident was clearly not as the official version would have us believe. buildings do not just fall down vertically floor by floor and land in a neat pile. also the explainationas about WTC7 are sketchy at best. Don't even get me started on the so called "plane" that hit the pentagon

I haven't really got involved in the thread. All I know is that about seven years ago a big plane flew into a big tower and it fell down.

Well that's what I've heard.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 11:34:29
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 16 2008, 11:27 AM) [snapback]513133[/snapback]
MJ, the examples you have given above are all good but the bigots I despise the most are those who are secrectly bigoted and its only when they let their guard slip you realise their true feelings.

I have come across many people like that in Scotland and some were people I knew for years and had never heard or seen any bigoted behaviour from previously.

I THINK I know what you mean. We are all a product of our upbringing. Sometimes it's hard to throw off old allegiances.

There is nothing inherently wrong with that provided they are contained within at all times.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 11:38:41
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 16 2008, 11:01 AM) [snapback]513118[/snapback]
what's survery ?

Is it painful ?

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It's a cross between surgery and carvery Newt.

Hacking is probably the nearest description.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 11:44:43
QUOTE(GMFC14 @ Sep 16 2008, 11:20 AM) [snapback]513129[/snapback]
FUD! is not pointed at Troy, but to the person who started this thread with the unnecessary title and sarcasm!

FUD!

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AH-now I understand.

Professor Piehole is not yet a fully qualified FUD-he has one or two exams to complete before he gets his B. Fd.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 11:50:32
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 16 2008, 11:02 AM) [snapback]513120[/snapback]
I hate rules.

That's quite a common condition which is only rarely fatal.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 12:06:23
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 16 2008, 11:38 AM) [snapback]513142[/snapback]
I can se hunners of wee eyes looking at me blink.gif

No sell by date on the tattie bag?
mortonjag 2008-09-16 12:08:23
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 16 2008, 11:57 AM) [snapback]513151[/snapback]
Is it not quite serious when you break it? unsure.gif

That's a common female mis-perception my Dear. The penis has no bone!
mortonjag 2008-09-16 12:15:57
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 16 2008, 12:10 PM) [snapback]513154[/snapback]
Is that why they are always so floppy? ph34r.gif

I might need to examine you to answer that precisely!
mortonjag 2008-09-16 12:20:48
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Sep 15 2008, 09:50 PM) [snapback]512931[/snapback]
One of the worst IMO.

I hope your thoughts are still with the family.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 12:25:49
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 16 2008, 12:19 PM) [snapback]513157[/snapback]
I was asking for Big Blue Balls. ph34r.gif

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.......and got a floppy willie-well the two tend to go together my dear! Death treats the male genitalia unkindly.

Anyway the weather's SO miserable today-I've e-mailed God for the umpteenth time and had no response so I'm off for forty w*nks!
mortonjag 2008-09-16 15:14:39
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 16 2008, 01:32 PM) [snapback]513181[/snapback]
And where do you think the English language derived from? what was spoken on these shores a millenium past was not what you perseve as English, in fact English is a language derived from many others, ours included.
The Scots of Ireland, the Gaels of Argyle and the north, Strathclyde Tribesmen, Nordic Invaders. They have all contributed to 'our' present day language. You must also know that most of Scotlands clan names where given by the French.

So what if Gaelic is not the indigenous tongue, it WAS in Argyle, the Islands and the Western Highlands. I don't agree that we should all learn this language, but those who wish to should have every opportunity to do so.

In schools?
mortonjag 2008-09-16 15:18:22
QUOTE(Eagle Eye @ Sep 16 2008, 01:40 PM) [snapback]513185[/snapback]
InverclydeNow is reporting that the council is seeking voluntary redundancies, due to a £10m funding shortfall.

Which service would you get rid off??

Me, I'd get rid of the Community Warden service, 32 of them starting at £18k a year, plus overtime, and the running of their vans, and other associated admin costs.

Surely, that would make a huge dent in the funding shortfall!!!

It's not as if they do anything anyway laugh.gif

I would definitely start at the top and work down. Twenty or so top paid jobs in Directorates could save the Region a cool couple of million p.a. and nobody would know the difference. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-16 15:20:07
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Sep 16 2008, 12:22 PM) [snapback]513159[/snapback]
last night i was visited by his ghost, and he fixed my record player for me.

Is that a wind up?
mortonjag 2008-09-16 15:38:19
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 16 2008, 02:02 PM) [snapback]513201[/snapback]
It's a cross between the keyboard in my work canteen being shoite and the firefox in here not having the spell checker application I have on my own machine to flag up any times I do make a little typo here and there smile.gif

When was it last serviced?

QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 16 2008, 03:12 PM) [snapback]513242[/snapback]
I agree. In these hard times Mr Rae has not done anything for the fans, has he?

Oh c'mon Mrs T-that's OTT.

For starters I get to literally laugh myself to sleep after every game at Cappielow-sometimes I read the Chairman's Notes (now user 'friendly' entitled 'Welcome to Cappielow') three times over just for the pure enjoyment. The Monkey and Fing titter alongside.

Then there's the live entertainment-his latest gag involves putting on his Poundstretcher shades in the Director's box whenever Alistair Donald puts in an appearance-I think the old Fud quite likes rubbing shoulders with rich c*nts.

And those inimitable microphone performances-the Bobby Linn episode stands out as a classic---'Are you there Bobby'? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Just in case he hasn't noticed yet Bobby's gone.

Just in case anybody hasn't noticed, Mr Rae's still with us.

mortonjag 2008-09-16 15:44:49
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 16 2008, 11:05 AM) [snapback]513121[/snapback]
As 'insightful' as your original post
Yip
same difference, huns, skunks, all the same to me.


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QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 16 2008, 01:41 PM) [snapback]513186[/snapback]
True, that Ardgowan football development thing could get ugly, you never know when you'll need to call your lawyers for them not responding.

Seems like the club actually do respond according to the majority, and just ignore people trying to tell them how and how they shouldn't run their club.

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QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Sep 16 2008, 02:53 PM) [snapback]513232[/snapback]
or maybe it's the other way round.. they WILL respond to simple requests for information on exactly where the ground is, BUT ask them something interesting which would actually involve them telling you something about the FUTURE of the club, or the clubs LACK of interest in INVOLVING the wider community and you hear NOTHING...

by the way, I didnt try and tell them HOW to run the club, I asked a question of them... is that ok ?? !!

maybe the poll should have been more explicit, something like.. who has asked a pertinent question about the future of the club and been ignored... that ok with you ?

As I said earlier, the club appears to respond promptly to e-mails which it regards as appropriate.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 16:44:18
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 16 2008, 04:20 PM) [snapback]513306[/snapback]
Why should they respond to a question like that though? they have better things to do than respond to people asking things they have no interest in. You wouldn't get a response to that kind of question from any other club in this league or the SPL. If you want to know something about the club, something that the person who recieved them e-mail will know about then they will respond, if you ask them questions about why Morton hasn't got involved in something then they probably wont reply, i know i wouldn't. You wouldnt email tesco and tell them to open a south american cuisine section because there is a gap in the market for it and expect them to take you seriously and reply.

If someone came into your work and asked you why you aren't doing something differently you wouldn't waste your time on them either.

It may be a pertinent question for you, but it is not for me, probably lots of other fans and espescially the club.

There should be no problem in sending a simple acknowledgement. That is only common courtesy.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 16:59:10
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 16 2008, 04:08 PM) [snapback]513296[/snapback]
It was NOT confined to the areas you mention.

How can you say that, the English language has been influenced by so many variants it’s impossible to say it resembles any language spoken in 5th century Germania.

It contributed, nothing else, it wasn't the beginning of the English language. Scholars have argued for centuries where its main influences lie and you have just summed it up in one sentence the exact beginnings. You seem to think the Saxons arrived here speaking English, or a derivative.

What book is that quoted from btw?

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You have entered the world of SPARROT, Barbie.

Probably one of his recommended reading texts for his sixth year studies (or whatever fancy name it's now called). dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-16 17:03:46
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 16 2008, 03:51 PM) [snapback]513280[/snapback]
The bint who was sacked a few days ago - Siobhan McDonagh, worked to abolish the condition that would have stopped Cairns from beoming a minister - a morally untenable position.
Found this nugget on his BBC profile:
Remove him as our representative please. dry.gif

Are you a member of the electorate?
mortonjag 2008-09-16 17:09:01 I see Clatty Gymslip has been appointed as shadow health minister.

She and wee Nickerless will have fun knocking pointless lesbo lumps out of each other.

Should be fun! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-16 17:18:41
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 16 2008, 04:51 PM) [snapback]513321[/snapback]
Then they should set up an automated reply system, if all you're wanting is acknowledgement.

If i ask a question about the club then i'd expect a swift reply, if i asked a question about why Morton aren't tapping into the football team my cousin plays for because he's an excellent player then i'd expect to be ignored with the contempt i deserve.

Irrespective of the question asked, an acknowledgement should be sent. Not to do so breeds hostility and resentment from paying fans-something the Club desperately needs to avoid the way things stand.

Every question is legitimate-none deserves to be treated with contempt.

With specific reference to your example, how about this?

Dear Mr Port Ton,

Thank you for your enquiry. While we go to inordinate lengths to check regularly on the availability of all burgeoning local talent, we regret to inform you that our remit does not encompass Boys Brigade under thirteen reserve sides.

Assuring you of our best attention at all times,

Yours aye,


Mabawsa Ritchie.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 17:28:09
QUOTE(Ballboy @ Sep 16 2008, 05:21 PM) [snapback]513338[/snapback]
I have got a feeling, although legitimate, that a response to that effect would just start a thread on here saying "MORTON DONT CARE ABOUT ......"

....and what would be unhealthy about that?
mortonjag 2008-09-16 17:35:08
QUOTE(Toby @ Sep 16 2008, 05:28 PM) [snapback]513342[/snapback]
I've e-mailed the club twice; firstly about tickets to the East Stirling Challenge Cup game last season as I expected to be in France for the Scotland game at the time the tickets would be released and got a pretty prompt response.

The second time was after the carry on with Gerry and myself at this season's Challenge Cup game at East Stirling when I got an e-mail reply within a few hours and gillian then phoned my mobile to discuss* the matter.

I'm critical of the club on a number of issues, but they do generally reply to my queries. However, were my queries through e-mails along the lines of my complaints at games/on the board/ at Q&As I wouldn't expect to hear a thing.

*Accept no responsibility for the actions of one of the club's employees.

So it WAS a Morton employee after all Toby?
mortonjag 2008-09-16 17:42:41
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 16 2008, 05:27 PM) [snapback]513340[/snapback]
This is fekin brilliant !!! laugh.gif Love it, love it.

Brown as someone else rightly says is dead man walking. Cairns and more than a few others who won't go public know this as well.
Cairns like every other Labour MP are starting to panic that they won't have a job should Brown stay.

Can't wait till Brown gets humiliated out of office. Icing on the cake would be Cairns losing his seat, closely followed by McNeil.

Is Bawheid responsible for the demise of New labour, Spurtle?

If so, I shall raise a glass to him! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-16 17:50:13
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Sep 16 2008, 05:41 PM) [snapback]513347[/snapback]
When the club ignored my e-mail about the questions concerning the youth set up I also explained that I had asked the question at the Q+A and since the younger group of players are not involved at Pro Youth level I wanted to know if there was a time frame to return to the SFA development .

I am awaiting an answer from the Trust ( no sniggering MJ !!)


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QUOTE(Toby @ Sep 16 2008, 05:44 PM) [snapback]513350[/snapback]
Just speculating mj.

I know as much as you do.

The club were quite happy to brush it under the carpet in the hope it would go away rather than look at the interests of the unsavoury element of their support.

The 'Club's Rotweiler appears to be a past mistress of 'brushing things under the carpet'.

If there was nothing to hide, why all the deviousness, or is inherent deviousness simply a pre-requisite on the CV of all prospective employees of GMFC?

mortonjag 2008-09-16 18:06:10
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 16 2008, 06:01 PM) [snapback]513363[/snapback]
f***s sake, I looked again. ph34r.gif

Boozie, you have a way with words my friend, Mrs, please, please leave it. I would rather you spoke about Williemans exploits.

I heard she made off with them!
mortonjag 2008-09-16 18:16:56
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Sep 16 2008, 06:11 PM) [snapback]513367[/snapback]
Don't be unhappy it was mt tenner crying.gif

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So are you now a shareholder with all the privileges that entails, or is that different?

I've tried to decipher the reams of official bumph the Trust publishes, and I'm really none the wiser.

I'd ask the Trust myself, but I'm skint and impatient.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 18:21:59
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Sep 16 2008, 06:17 PM) [snapback]513372[/snapback]
Yeah - and, going by some of the comments on ANOTHER thread, maybe while we're there we can watch all the Morton callcentre staff sitting around munching Millions and swigging champagne while ignoring phones ringing off the hook and emails by the dozen....... dry.gif

That's absolutely dreadful. I don't think people should be allowed to say things like that.

How many employees work in the Morton Call Centre? I'm sure it must be a very busy place. Do you work there too?
mortonjag 2008-09-16 18:42:37
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Sep 16 2008, 06:13 PM) [snapback]513368[/snapback]
Doctor,

Let me tell you about this problem from the start. A few years ago i started getting what I would call acid indigestion / heartburn. Things like gaviscon and other over the counder remedies were pretty much useless so I went to my doctor who prescribed a tablet called Lansaprasole.

At first the lansaprosole capsules helped my problem, I took a 30mg one every day for several weeks and then only took 15mg ones as and when was required.

Things went not too badly for a few years only having the odd recurrence of this ailment, however, in recent weeks, the problem has returned and this time it has been very bad.

I sometimes feel like the pressure at the top of my chest is going to coz my head to implode, or at least coz me to blackout. Sometimes when the pain is acute I thump my fist against my chest as if to try and clear some blockage.

As mentioned to you before doctor, I'm an alcoholic, In recent months I've managed to go periods of up to a couple of weeks without alcohol but this heartburn/trapped wind/acid indigestion problem still remains; I'm therefore not convinced the problem is simply related to alcohol.

I know I dont eat too healthy and regulalry include things like sausages/ tottie scones , bacon etc for breakfast and lots of soft drinks, when drunk I sometimes have a few cigarettes.

The last time I went to see my GP she suggested that I bring her a sample of anal waste to see if perhaps my gut is producing something it shouldnt be. I have to say, I felt embarassed by this, perhaps I shouldnt be.

Now I find I am wallowing up to 6 lansaprosole tablets per day and I feel they are not helping much at all. I was wondering if you had any advice on this matter. Perhaps I am not explaining it all very good. My GP doesnt simply want me to indefinately take lansaprosole, and after a few years of gradual and now rapid growth of the problem I'm begininng to wonder how it can be fixed.

I appreciate I may be a bit of a drama queen but please can you give me your opinion on it Doctor.

Firstly WDE I must say that any comments I make are those of a (presently) non-practising physician, and I can accept no responsibility of any kind should you act on my opinion.

I recommend that you consult your own GP who may well be half Mortonjag's age, far less experienced, and too busy to pay much attention, but he/she can pass the buck and get things done! smile.gif

It sounds to me like you are suffering from chronic reflux oesophagitis, (acid induced inflammation of the gullet), a condition frequently aggravated by poor diet, tobacco, and alcohol consumption. Other more serious gastro intestinal conditions are a remote possibility and I'd suggest things have reached a stage where you ought to be referred for endoscopy.

There is also a vague possibility that some of your symptoms may not be entirely related to your digestive tract (I've highlighted the relevant part of your text)., and I'd also want to check out your cardiological status just as a precautionary measure.

As stated earlier, this is my opinion and based solely on the information you have provided, and should not in any way be taken as Professional advice, nor as a substitute for consulting a real doctor. laugh.gif

mortonjag 2008-09-16 18:55:11 As you very well know Dr midTONs, 9 a.m. starts are no longer acceptable.

Surgery now commences at 7.30 a.m. to accomodate those very ill people who require urgent medical attention before heading off for work. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-16 19:03:39
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 16 2008, 06:32 PM) [snapback]513376[/snapback]
Bugger...I would have gotten caught if I was going on Saturday then

I'm sure you won't be grudging the club your pennies now that you are the recipient of previously untold wealth from some unfortunate employer! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-16 19:40:30
QUOTE(axeman @ Sep 16 2008, 07:22 PM) [snapback]513405[/snapback]
The man in question is pictured here. Those round about him will know who it is, so I wont pick him out individually, but he was quite quick off the mark exiting Sinclair Street after the game.
[attachment=4543:DSC_10115.jpg]

What a let down-I saw lots and lots of people. I thought I spotted my Auntie Jessie up at the back, but then I remembered she's been dead for about forty years.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 19:43:34
QUOTE(Ghost @ Sep 16 2008, 05:49 PM) [snapback]513355[/snapback]
Make sure ye all get the Stadium tour ph34r.gif

...in the open topped bus? bag.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-16 19:50:32
QUOTE(Ghost @ Sep 16 2008, 07:27 PM) [snapback]513407[/snapback]
I had a similar problem although nowt to do with alcohol, i was eating Rennie's like they were going out of fashion. Went and seen the Army Doc and carried out a couple of tests ( Helicobacter )! Turned out positive and have been on the same medication ( Omeprazole ) for the past 4 years as i still have that problem albeit controlled with the medication.

Might be worth doing the same WDE !
Helicobacter
Omeprazole

Im sure MJ will know.

Helicobacter pylori is the organism which is largely responsible for the excessive acid associated particularly with duodenal ulcer. It's normally treated with a combination of two antibiotics and a drug like omeprazole or lanzoprazole (triple therapy).

Long term treatment with either of the drugs mentioned does not eradicate recurring Helicobacter, but keeps acid production minimal.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 19:54:49
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 16 2008, 07:45 PM) [snapback]513425[/snapback]
Staff training on a Monday morning (ex) Dr Jag, you've been away from it to long. laugh.gif

I'll EX-Dr Jag you, you cheeky scamp. I may not currently be in practice, but


MORTONJAG WAS, IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE MEDICALLY QUALIFIED!


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mortonjag 2008-09-16 20:06:54
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 16 2008, 07:57 PM) [snapback]513437[/snapback]
would that be the same one that frequents the cemetery? unsure.gif

No that's me on one of my grave robbing trips!
mortonjag 2008-09-16 20:09:00
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 16 2008, 07:29 PM) [snapback]513411[/snapback]
I was referring to plastic whistle.

That's OK!
mortonjag 2008-09-16 20:12:30
QUOTE(Cowshed Chris @ Sep 16 2008, 07:47 PM) [snapback]513426[/snapback]
I've sent the same email to the club a total of 8 times since about August. Still have received no reply.

In which case I find it hard to understand the 2/3ds who appear satisfied. How can an e-mail be ignored eight times. It must SURELY be a mistake on your part! unsure.gif

QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 16 2008, 08:07 PM) [snapback]513441[/snapback]
ask away...

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He answered!
mortonjag 2008-09-16 20:15:53
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Sep 16 2008, 07:48 PM) [snapback]513430[/snapback]
Is that the Jag directly above me with the grey jaiket and nae teeth??? wink.gif

Ahl nae teesh ye ya dishreshpectful shlob.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 20:20:06
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 16 2008, 07:57 PM) [snapback]513438[/snapback]
Games at Cappielow aren;t enjoyable anyway - a mixture of mediocrity and the general stupidity of more than a few fans.

There, there-I wouldn't let those more than a few generally stupid and mediocre fans stop your enjoyment Einstein. Just think E = MC2, buy a pie and Bovril, and focus on the festival of football.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 20:23:02
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 16 2008, 08:13 PM) [snapback]513447[/snapback]
dont want to ignore you biggrin.gif


I didn't see you on Saturday-did you not go for your usual widdle?
QUOTE(Ballboy @ Sep 16 2008, 08:20 PM) [snapback]513452[/snapback]
Since about August. So your sending it roughly twice a week. Maybe you should change tactic about phone them and not use your keyboard ph34r.gif

What is your connection with the Club?
mortonjag 2008-09-16 20:26:26
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 16 2008, 07:33 PM) [snapback]513414[/snapback]
Christ Andy, I know you'd shag a barber's floor and all that, but surely even you aren't that desperate? ohmy.gif

There you go ridiculing Andy's medical condition.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 20:30:46
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 16 2008, 07:48 PM) [snapback]513429[/snapback]
On the basis of it being an indigenous language it was - looking at it from a pre-6th century timeframe.

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'before the sixth century' my child. You'll really have to get all this SPARROTTING sorted. University lecturers will be singularly unimpressed-they get about fifty of you to every independent thinker!

I'm genuinely trying to help.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 20:33:45
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 16 2008, 07:45 PM) [snapback]513424[/snapback]
I shall be for upcoming elections yes.

I'll take that as a 'No'!
mortonjag 2008-09-16 20:49:36
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 16 2008, 08:33 PM) [snapback]513462[/snapback]
Do shut up, you tired old windbag.

Why should I? That was neither offensive nor witty. Are you too arrogant to accept that you are wrong? I still learn from my mistakes. laugh.gif

I honestly object to your repeated assaults on our language. They are neither original nor smart and will fool nobody with a modicum of intelligence.

They certainly WON'T cut any ice with lecturers who are seeking original thought and individual presentation-lecturers sickened every academic year by a glut of incoming SPARROTS who inevitably have to learn the hard way, if at all.

I AM genuinely trying to help. I would give my own children exactly the same advice, and tan their arses if they gave me half the cheek I've had to tolerate from you. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-16 20:58:15
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 16 2008, 08:53 PM) [snapback]513474[/snapback]
laugh.gif

And what condition would that be then? laugh.gif

In my experience folk who are wont to shag floors generally benefit from psychological referral.
mortonjag 2008-09-16 21:01:30
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 16 2008, 08:36 PM) [snapback]513466[/snapback]
You'll take it as utterly beside the point - unless my views on David Cairns ineptitude are likely to change vastly in the next 13 days. I can pretty much guarantee that they won't.

'my opinion that David Cairns is inept'. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-16 21:07:23
QUOTE(Ballboy @ Sep 16 2008, 08:26 PM) [snapback]513458[/snapback]
Just a fan who is a bit sick of the club being pillered left right and centre. I go to the games, just like you. Sometimes i'm even sitting behind you.


laugh.gif That's a very dangerous place to sit. I wasn't aware that we'd been introduced!
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 16 2008, 08:31 PM) [snapback]513461[/snapback]
was being wined and dined inside

Lucky boy!
mortonjag 2008-09-16 21:09:26
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Sep 16 2008, 08:33 PM) [snapback]513463[/snapback]
E=MC2

I know, but I don't know how to do that on this keyboard!
mortonjag 2008-09-17 08:23:54
QUOTE(Ballboy @ Sep 16 2008, 09:45 PM) [snapback]513497[/snapback]
Its funny, you were alot quieter without your keyboard.

Hmm!


Rat alert?


OK non-insider-answer one simple question-were you sitting behind me on Saturday?

A simple 'Yes', or 'No' will suffice at this stage. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-17 08:33:49
QUOTE(Ballboy @ Sep 16 2008, 10:09 PM) [snapback]513510[/snapback]
I dont disagree, but it would be helpful if it was constructive and meaningful. This is a perfect example, if your some is that annoyed about getting a response then contact the club via a different means, coming on here isn't going to resolve anything.

I believe that coming on here, as you put it, has resolved many issues-mainly indirectly- by uniting the fans, collating opinion, and prompting some to alternative action.
When confidence in the club is at an all time low, when there is OVERWHELMING evidence of incompetence in several areas, and when several posters have documentary evidence of the utterly amateurish and slipshod way in which 'business' is conducted, you may find that your Sir Galahad behaviour on this thread will be less effective than asking Mr Rae an unwelcome question.

QUOTE(JonaTon @ Sep 17 2008, 12:38 AM) [snapback]513555[/snapback]
Why should he? On the club info page on gmfc.net it lists two email addresses you can use to contact the club - info@gmfc.net is for general enquiries. Before all the various means of contacting the club are listed it says:
For the record I've contacted the club via email once and received a reply quite quickly.

NO MORE SHOULD NEED TO BE SAID!
mortonjag 2008-09-17 08:39:09
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 17 2008, 12:05 AM) [snapback]513544[/snapback]
why the unnecessary title? If he looked like Zinedine Zidane and he said why didn't Zidane get on then there wouldn't be a problem, you're too quick to play the race card and if people can't say that black people look like other black people because it is offensive then it is infact the fact that he isn't allowed to say it that is racist, and not him. We're all equal, we all look like other people...i see myself as a young Richard Pryor.

...and your arse fits my hand like a glove.
mortonjag 2008-09-17 08:42:53
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Sep 16 2008, 09:14 PM) [snapback]513483[/snapback]
Really? Silly people like you should be banned. From Cappielow and the massage board.

Without Mortonjag this pubic massage board would be a common or garden message board.

QUOTE(Ghost @ Sep 16 2008, 09:57 PM) [snapback]513503[/snapback]
ph34r.gif

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mortonjag 2008-09-17 08:46:26 It's clearly symptomatic of the current malaise at Cappielow that intelligent fans are reduced to debating the pros and cons of getting a rare goal from a long throw in! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-17 09:38:00
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 16 2008, 09:28 PM) [snapback]513491[/snapback]
The fact of the matter is I do not care what you think. The days of Mortonjag at university must be a distant memory to you - enjoy your reminiscing if you will, but I can't be arsed getting into tedious debate over semantics.

That's crystal clear. You may come to accept the folly of your attitude. You are after all a mere seventeen year old child.

You will get quite a 'dunt' when you enter University life. It happens every year when arrogant young sprats leave their small ponds for the open sea.

Among umpteen other bright youngsters on this massage board, you stand out like a sore thumb - a classical example of unbridled youthful arrogance. Their simple observations repeatedly put you to shame.

I find your literary style offensive. Your 'statements of opinion' laugh.gif are grossly padded out, presented in an unnaturally grandiose manner, and smack suspiciously of arrant plagiarism.

It just doesn't work son. rolleyes.gif

Regarding your standard ageist comment, I continue to be regularly amazed by the preconceived ideas of our child posters.

Mortonjag is FAR closer to the inner workings of University life than you are ever likely to get.

That my boy, is fact. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-17 10:01:37
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 17 2008, 08:51 AM) [snapback]513576[/snapback]
Did'nt Jim McAlister come from there?


I think Jimbo had been with them but officially came to us from a Linwood side.

mortonjag 2008-09-17 10:03:13
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Sep 17 2008, 09:21 AM) [snapback]513580[/snapback]
thought you were ONLY a fan ??? so whose the we then ? you and your dad !

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mortonjag 2008-09-17 10:07:20
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 17 2008, 09:41 AM) [snapback]513583[/snapback]
Another text quote. Feck me you have a narrow outlook.

Looking at it from a pre-6th century timeframe, I'd imagine that's inevitable! wacko.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-17 10:15:13
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Sep 16 2008, 11:34 PM) [snapback]513537[/snapback]
I've heard of it sure, but never seen it. Tell me this Col, do you reckon it's genuine? Or is it a replica and you've got the original stowed doon yer dunny next to the stone of destiny? biggrin.gif And where do you reckon St Columba is planted ? Some Irish claim his bones are next to Saints Paddy and Brigid in Downpatick, and some Scots say he's laid under holy ground in Iona. Maybe there's bits of him in both places. I wonder if he existed at all, but that's just me having no faith and being sceptical.

Is that where he hid her?
mortonjag 2008-09-17 10:26:01
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 16 2008, 09:25 PM) [snapback]513489[/snapback]
I missed an apostrophe.
Nothing better to do with your time I presume?

It had nothing to do with the absent apostrophe SPARROT!

Your stilted comment implied pre-existing ineptitude on which you were airing views.

I merely suggested that 'my opinion that David Cairns is inept' was a more accurate description of your thought process.
mortonjag 2008-09-17 10:51:54
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 17 2008, 10:35 AM) [snapback]513595[/snapback]
She was only the fishermans daughter, but she knew her plaice and how to fillet. biggrin.gif

They say airline pilot's wives' c*ckpits are rarely unoccupied.
mortonjag 2008-09-17 11:35:56
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 17 2008, 11:23 AM) [snapback]513604[/snapback]
Is he still seeing his very young girlfriend, is it love? wub.gif



I once had a girl, or should I say, she once had me...
She showed me her room, isn't it good, norwegian wood?

She asked me to stay and she told me to sit anywhere,
So I looked around and I noticed there wasn't a chair.

I sat on a rug, biding my time, drinking her wine
We talked until two and then she said, "It's time for bed"

She told me she worked in the morning and started to laugh.
I told her I didn't and crawled off to sleep in the bath

And when I awoke, I was alone, this bird had flown
So I lit a fire, isn't it good, norwegian wood.


Poor Willy Man!
mortonjag 2008-09-17 12:09:01
QUOTE(dazed @ Sep 17 2008, 11:32 AM) [snapback]513608[/snapback]
*shudders*

What makes you think they may have a wee fancy for each other? I also see Hatchet Pauline Mc neil has been rewarded for her liking for all things Wendy by being demoted.

I don't, though I think they are both singularly unfeminine. Nickerless badly needs a shave and Clatty Gymslip's hair looks like it's never seen shampoo..........


and the one knows as little as the other about the NHS and penises.
mortonjag 2008-09-17 12:17:01
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Sep 17 2008, 11:47 AM) [snapback]513614[/snapback]
A couple of years ago we had overpaid our rent and I spent 9 weeks before getting the money back while they checked for arrears .
When I finally got some money back they had taken nearly 200 quid off the total for poll tax ? from 89-91 when I was in England working but they wanted proof ?? Which I couldn't provide .

As MJ posted how can the management be retained when they are clearly failing their budgetary restraints .

Council tax collection is an absolute quagmire and not confined to Inverclyde.

On one occasion my wife and I were billed three years later for CT we didn't owe on a property we'd briefly rented.

I argued and argued and eventually they admitted that we might have a point, but they claimed they were unable to do anything until the matter was in the hands of Sheriff's Officers, at which point we could again dispute the charge.

I told them to go ahead, and five years on and divorced neither of us has heard a cheep.

They seem to work on the principle that everybody is a cheat!
mortonjag 2008-09-17 12:23:42
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 17 2008, 11:59 AM) [snapback]513618[/snapback]
Is it made of Chocolate?

It's certainly a work of art. I've heard that the foundations are made of toffee, the shell is fondant, and only the outer skin is made of chocolate. That's apparently the ideal structure for minimal damage in a terrorist air strike.
mortonjag 2008-09-17 12:28:20
QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Sep 17 2008, 12:21 PM) [snapback]513623[/snapback]
progressive collapse is a theory - not scientific fact

I'm sure Mr Rae will be heartened by your opinion.
mortonjag 2008-09-17 12:47:18
QUOTE(EBu @ Sep 17 2008, 12:35 PM) [snapback]513628[/snapback]
You sure that wasn't "MEDICALLY CERTIFIED"? wink.gif
Hope you feel better again soon WDE, its hellish when you cant see a way to cure it but hopefully the advice on here will help you out.

That's a slightly outdated expression, though I'm certain some posters would love to see Mortonjag sectioned! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-17 12:52:54
QUOTE(Ghost @ Sep 17 2008, 10:24 AM) [snapback]513590[/snapback]
No one said it did,

but if you look back at the thread's original post, he was asking a question for others on here and curious as to how at anytime of doing, did they get on when contacting the club by email wink.gif

Little Jack Horner sat in the corner because he had a square arse.

Little Jack Horner sat in the corner because Cappielow was stowed out.
mortonjag 2008-09-17 12:59:47 I keep noticing strange sounding names, and always forget to write them down.

Over the years I've come across one or two in real life. Phil McCracken was indeed very attractive while Isa Cumming looked very plain.

What are yours?
mortonjag 2008-09-17 13:38:53
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 17 2008, 01:32 PM) [snapback]513646[/snapback]
Just saying on the news that Halifax Bank of Scotland is going to be taken over by Loyds TSB. Things must be getting bad! ohmy.gif

I'm presuming Mrs Thatcher's to blame for all this, and I just wish Bawheid would sort it out now.
mortonjag 2008-09-17 13:45:55
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 17 2008, 11:07 AM) [snapback]513600[/snapback]
Now now MJ, it was a couple of big High Flats that came down. Should have got the demolition mob in who done the Gorbals flats a couple of years back, they only killed one person.

They demolished two of the Shawbridge blocks a month ago-no distance from here-they came down perfectly straight-is that not what's meant to happen with gravity?
mortonjag 2008-09-17 13:54:22
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 17 2008, 01:52 PM) [snapback]513662[/snapback]
Guess what I wont be listening to and at what time wink.gif

An older and wiser poster at all times? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-17 13:58:39
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Sep 17 2008, 01:55 PM) [snapback]513664[/snapback]
Who has their head in the sand now? Football fans self policing... laugh.gif The only way you're comments could have any validity was if you were a totty bowl regular. So what brings you here? Neither side holds the moral high ground here, as you said yourself, bad as each other. So for you OF scum who come on here to try and get one over on each other why don't you just take your crap back to the totty bowl or mordor and f*** off and leave us alone?

thumbup2.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-17 15:25:53
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Sep 17 2008, 02:08 PM) [snapback]513671[/snapback]
Aah ! one of those questions you refuse to answer yourself. dry.gif

It was a genuine question in response to what I hope was a genuine poster.

Who rattled your cage anyway Professor? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-17 15:29:26
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Sep 17 2008, 02:21 PM) [snapback]513680[/snapback]
I must be wrong (the fact that he lives down the road from me has nothing to do with it dry.gif ). Anyway this is getting tedious so this is my last post on the subject. You can relax now.

Whether he lives 'down the road' or whether he lives beside fanny baws is of no help to posters who still don't have a bloody clue who they are supposed to be looking for among umpteen fans in a picture.

I still can't see the point in posting it!
mortonjag 2008-09-17 15:38:26
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 17 2008, 02:55 PM) [snapback]513690[/snapback]
You're one to comment about standard ageist comments. I've read your thoughts and I'll treat them with the same respect I treat junk mail or dog turds, thanks.

Digest them VERY carefully son. They are intended to be helpful even though they appear distasteful.

QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 17 2008, 03:15 PM) [snapback]513702[/snapback]
Will you please STOP banging on about the 6th century, is that the chapter you have reached. sad.gif

Gaelic did not originate in our west or north western shores.

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QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 17 2008, 03:21 PM) [snapback]513706[/snapback]
Under what context of 'originate'?

o·rig·i·nate
–verb
1. to take its origin or rise; begin; start; arise:

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mortonjag 2008-09-17 15:42:42
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 17 2008, 03:02 PM) [snapback]513695[/snapback]
David Cairns' ineptitude is a general statement of fact.
I thought this was a message board about opinions, or do we have to put IMO after each and every statement to please the sadder pedants among us?

David Cairns' ineptitude is a matter of opinion son. The fact that you and I may agree does not alter the presumptuous inaccuracy of your original posting.
mortonjag 2008-09-17 16:26:10
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 17 2008, 03:43 PM) [snapback]513723[/snapback]
I had slice and sausages for lunch.


Good for you-you appear to approach your diet with the same scant regard as you claim to have for Mortonjag's helpful words. Could this be 'the healthy heart seen in a pre 6th century timeframe'?
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 17 2008, 03:45 PM) [snapback]513727[/snapback]
Watch you heart, the doctor may have it on a plate.

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mortonjag 2008-09-17 16:37:03
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 17 2008, 02:58 PM) [snapback]513693[/snapback]
2000 years and still practising, i'd give up if I were you.

Who do you support anyway, seems you have leanings towards the plastics.

Edited to add:ITS DOUGIE HIMSELF, well who else would be on a Morton site praising the conduct of Sellic fans. The bestest ever, super dooper fans in the world.

Look here my good fellow, I've been supporting Morton from the heart of my bottom since before you were a twinkle in your father's eye, and let me assure you that I have never ever on any occasion suggested that Celtic fans are much better than Rangers fans, let alone much, much better than our own faithful supporters who bring their friends to Cappielow through thick and thin and buy my sweeties. I was talking to a couple of arse lickers some loyal Morton fans only this week and they commented that things are really looking up after our excellent draw with Queen of the South in which we were robbed of all three points because the referee only sent off one of their players.

QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Sep 17 2008, 03:39 PM) [snapback]513721[/snapback]
Listen wee man, if you come on here to defend either of the OF you're gonnae get shot doon! You've opted to take sides on the issue and on here that doesn't cut it. It's a Morton site and we try and distance ourselves from all that sectarian s***e! Stick tae the REAL hoops, you know it makes sense!

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mortonjag 2008-09-17 16:44:46
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 17 2008, 03:46 PM) [snapback]513729[/snapback]
Has that actually been historically proven? It's currently established by historians that the people's of Kintyre and Northern Ireland held many cultural similarities: could Gaelic have originated in Argyll before spreadig into Ireland?
By asking for the contxt I was asking whether you were alluding to their earlier development of Celtic languages.

HMM! laugh.gif

SPARROT, my Daddy-God rest his soul-was an eminent local archeologist and historian, who undoubtedly took the same view as Barbarossa, though-unlike Barbie-he was not BORN in the fifth century. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-17 16:49:12
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Sep 17 2008, 04:10 PM) [snapback]513741[/snapback]
I love this board! Even when we're "disagreeing" I feel part of a special thing. It's a Scottish flavour that I've really missed as an exile, humour with an edge and often dark. I have always felt being Scottish was somehow special and when I ask myself what other nationality I'd like to be I can't think of anything else. That's not putting anyone else down and I'm sure they feel the same way about their country but I'm just glad I was born Scottish and brought up to support "The Ton!".

Just wanted to share that with you.

Effin ship jumper! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-17 16:57:34
QUOTE(Doc @ Sep 17 2008, 04:43 PM) [snapback]513754[/snapback]
Now you guys are talking my language...

WDE...what you describe is classic symptoms of inflammation of the eosophagus. Sounds as though your GP is treating it on the assumption it is reflux which, especially given your lifestyle comments, seems likely. Lanzoprazole is one of a class of drugs known as proton pump inhibitors (PPI's). They work by reducing the amount of acid your stomach can release. If you have the 30mg tablets, two a day is normal. In the same way, antacids neutralize the acid in your stomach and antihistamines such as Zantac reduce the acid release (NOTE: these antihistamines are REALLY different from the ones we pop for allergies!).

One question: do you or your family have any allergies or a history of allergies? Any trouble swallowing pills or food (leaving this open for jokes here! )? If you have been on any of these drugs for several months (it can take more than 3 months for symptoms to improve since your eosophagus has to actually heal itself after the acid is reduced) and still see no improvement, there might be another explanation. There is a disease known as eosinophilic esophagitis (EE) which is frequently misdiagnosed as chronic reflux. Most GP's are too quick to assume reflux and we frequently see patients who have been on Lazoprazole etc for years, only for us to them identify the condition as EE. A biopsy will be able to tell. Might want to discuss it with your doctor if you keep being unresponsive to the PPI's or antacids. If it is EE, these drugs really won't help and you would need anti-allergy drugs or changes in your diet to eliminate certain foods. Think of it like asthma or food allergy but up in your eosophagus.

Nice to hear another Doc's opinion. I guess you have no cure for the Ton!

I've already suggested that endoscopy is in order, and given the somewhat atypical description of his high retrosternal pain wonder if a routine cardiological assessment might not go amiss to eliminate the possibility of dual pathology.

mortonjag 2008-09-17 17:01:41
QUOTE(Dougie @ Sep 17 2008, 04:55 PM) [snapback]513759[/snapback]
Hence the question if we are distancing ourselves why even bother discussing it? I am putting accross a different point of view, does that mean because it differs fae yours it isn't valid? In fact what is the point of having a f**king debate where we all say the exact same f**king thing. I stand by what I say with regards that, Celtic do not have as much of a sectarian element in their songs at the games. In their pubs and clubs, granted they are just as bad, but Rangers have a real issue with Large sections of their support at the games. Obviously Uefa and the SPL agree as Rangers have been warned off of both these organisations over this issue.

So you agree that they are all bigoted b*****ds.
mortonjag 2008-09-17 17:03:51
QUOTE(Deego @ Sep 17 2008, 04:51 PM) [snapback]513757[/snapback]
I make this board what it is. I am the king.

Stop smoking-I don't like a nicotine stained tadger.
mortonjag 2008-09-17 17:09:09 F*CK GIANTS
mortonjag 2008-09-17 17:12:43 Rhoda Harden

Shona Legge


Keep them coming! As long as they could be genuine they've probably existed somewhere.
mortonjag 2008-09-17 18:24:24
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 17 2008, 06:19 PM) [snapback]513811[/snapback]
I dunno, must be worth it if you're in it somewhere. wink.gif rolleyes.gif

I'm sure ballboy would be able to identify me! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-17 18:26:56
QUOTE(TigerTon @ Sep 17 2008, 05:58 PM) [snapback]513801[/snapback]
guy in my last work was called Wullie Wiper laugh.gif

I'm sure Fanny Aitken would appreciate that sort of partner!
mortonjag 2008-09-17 18:30:33
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 17 2008, 06:00 PM) [snapback]513804[/snapback]
I believe that such fillums do exist in the wacky world of the interweb. rolleyes.gif

Midgets or dwarves?
mortonjag 2008-09-17 18:36:41
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 17 2008, 05:27 PM) [snapback]513783[/snapback]
Thanks for the plug..... and don't forget folks..... there's a 10% discount for greenockmorton.org* members! thumbup2.gif

* Apllies to members of at least 6 months and have made more than 50 posts.
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Do I get for free then. The Monkey and Fing are house trained. blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-17 18:47:22
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 17 2008, 05:17 PM) [snapback]513771[/snapback]
Everything in moderation Doctor - an apple previously and washed down with a glass of cranberry juice - although you'd likely feel the benefits of the juice more than myself. blush.gif

Through a pre 6th century timeframe perhaps!

Pomegranate juice is the 'in thing'. I thought you'd have known that!

Pomegranate or 'seedy apple'.

Here's a description you'd have been proud of SPARROT!

a chambered, many-seeded, globose fruit, having a tough, usually red rind and surmounted by a crown of calyx lobes, the edible portion consisting of pleasantly acid flesh developed from the outer seed coat.

Your education just goes on and on and on. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-17 18:51:18
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 17 2008, 06:14 PM) [snapback]513808[/snapback]
Are you sure? rolleyes.gif

Yes my Dear, I'm entirely sure-convinced even!
mortonjag 2008-09-17 18:58:46
QUOTE(Doc @ Sep 17 2008, 05:41 PM) [snapback]513793[/snapback]
The cardio work-up sounds like a good, safe idea also, Mortonjag but we often see the retrosternal pain in EE too. Its turned out to be quite an amazing area to work in. We're seeing 5-10 new patients a month being referred from gastro for allergy testing (referral based on failure to respond to PPI therapy and a positive biopsy for eosinophils >15 per hpf) and about 80% are EE. When we skin test them, they are INSANE responders...much worse that any asthmatic or food allergy patient. In the last year, we have had three patients go into systemic anaphylaxis on skin testing and all have been EE patients. The interesting thing is that almost all of them don't seem to feel that affected. They all complain of reflux-like pain and occational problems swallowing pills or food. The field are now beginning to think that EE might be much more frequent that current estimates and that the bottom of the iceberg is walking around, living with symptoms or being treated with PPIs or histamine blockers.

Amazing stuff!

I can still remember seeing vagotomies and pyloroplasties being done 'ten a penny' for D.U.! The more we know, the more we don't know. smile.gif

QUOTE(forza ton @ Sep 17 2008, 06:15 PM) [snapback]513809[/snapback]
mj's pure RAGING cos we have another doctor on board

" i said it first! not him, me!!!!!!!"

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If ALL the other posters were doctors, Mortonjag would indeed be a happy bunny.

Unfortunately he had to contend day and daily with you lot! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-17 19:06:28


QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Sep 17 2008, 05:22 PM) [snapback]513774[/snapback]
I've been working undercover doon here for SNIPE (ScotsNatsIntelligencePartyExecutive). I've given my best years for the cause, shagging as many women as I could to recruit youngsters for the exec in the future(got that idea from the Gerries). London is now full o' wee gingers waiting for the call to arms! It's hard to take that abuse when I have sacrificed so much for my ain folk. I am wounded MJ.

Aye right!

RAVEN I heard

Ride a virgin every night. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-17 19:11:58
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 17 2008, 06:40 PM) [snapback]513825[/snapback]
Shame about yourself. blush.gif

Bloody hell-news travels fast-anyway that's me back upstairs with only my injured pride to nurse.
mortonjag 2008-09-17 19:14:54
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 17 2008, 06:51 PM) [snapback]513829[/snapback]
I thought goji berries had beaten the pomegranate when it came to fad fruits...
Without your cranberries yo'd have problems with excretion, the sourness matches you personality too. blush.gif

I'm talking about the prophylaxis of prostatic carcinoma boy, and once you develop an adult palate, you'll find cranberry juice rather pleasantly sweet.
mortonjag 2008-09-17 19:18:08
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Sep 17 2008, 07:11 PM) [snapback]513838[/snapback]
A virgin? Doon here? More chance of a w**k from Her Maj or His Holiness! laugh.gif

50 euro for a Holy Willie hand job! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-17 19:55:18
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 17 2008, 06:28 PM) [snapback]513816[/snapback]
was his question really a general enquiry? He asked the clubs opinion on Ardgowan football development, although really he asked Gillian's opinion of it. Is Gillian meant to run and find Dougie and be like " Dougie Dougie, quick answer...whats your opinion of the Ardgowan football development? quicky! there is someone waiting for an urgent response at his keyboard. "

If you ask a question about the club, then 9 times out of 10 you will get a swift reply.

You are being a knotty boy again!

The issue is about responding or otherwise my dear.

Thank you kindly for your e-mail, but I regret to say that at this juncture the Club is unable to comment.

Kind regards

Ballboy.
mortonjag 2008-09-17 20:10:23
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Sep 17 2008, 07:51 PM) [snapback]513844[/snapback]
18GMFC74, you are annoying. Every one of your posts are moaning about something. I asked a question and yet again you manage to get a moan in. God sake man.

Just ignore the little knobend.

Where indeed is Alistair Donald?

The share issue is projected over five years by which time God will we 82 if he's still with us.

IMHO it's just a smokescreen to keep the fans thinking something's happening.

Rae 'took on' AD in January thinking it would cover his arse with the public when things were 'the pits'.

AD made him an offer-Rae said double it-AD said 'Naw' thinking 'I can bide my time-I'll con Crawford into a wee share issue for stadium development' and the two of us can sit pretty-let's face it he can't go on for ever'.


Something like that.
mortonjag 2008-09-17 20:15:16
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 17 2008, 08:10 PM) [snapback]513855[/snapback]
well if this is your biggest problem with the club then we must be running things pretty well. Unfortunately for me getting an email back from the club saying theyre not able to comment doesn't even come into concerns i have about the club or the way it is run.

Good gracious-I got the impression you were defending the club! laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-17 20:21:06
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 17 2008, 07:19 PM) [snapback]513843[/snapback]
Depends upon the volume of glucose-fructose syrup added by the supermarket - or does Mortonjag grow his own?

My cranberry cloches are adjacent to my cellar SPARROT. Would you like to visit my cellar-for an inquisitive child like you it holds many mysteries. The Monkey and Fing will be happy to take you on a guided tour while Mortonjag prepares your last supper.
mortonjag 2008-09-17 20:31:31
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 17 2008, 08:07 PM) [snapback]513852[/snapback]
I can't feel anything. sad.gif

I know how you feel!

QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 17 2008, 08:13 PM) [snapback]513858[/snapback]
I'm missing him. Someone will have to cheer me up. unsure.gif

Why did the chicken cross the road?
mortonjag 2008-09-17 20:35:34
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 17 2008, 08:32 PM) [snapback]513874[/snapback]
No, but since it's you I'll throw in a free boadband connection so we don't have to go without your scintillating patter. smile.gif

Will it work on the beach?
mortonjag 2008-09-17 20:41:23
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 17 2008, 08:17 PM) [snapback]513861[/snapback]
Its not as black and white with me as it is with you. tongue.gif

I don't hate the club or the people who run it, if they're doing something i don't think is right then i'll comment on it, if i think they're doing something right then i'll praise them and if i think they are being unfairly criticised i will say so.

I live in the grey area y'see MJ, and no...i don't mean your pubes!

Cheeky brat-only last weekend you complimented me on that lovely auburn hue!

QUOTE(Ballboy @ Sep 17 2008, 08:28 PM) [snapback]513869[/snapback]
Nope.

I only sit at away games when i have to.

You appear to suggest that you are acquainted with me. I know nobody by the name of 'ballboy'.

Morton were at home on Saturday.
mortonjag 2008-09-17 20:46:59
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 17 2008, 08:19 PM) [snapback]513862[/snapback]
IMHO it's just a smokescreen to keep the fans thinking something's happening.

Gidday mortonjag,

That's a wee bit harsh, mate.

However, why was the issue announced so soon ?

18 months AT LEAST in advance of the need for the capital ?

Some supporters may get a warm feeling from buying 150 pounds of shares.

But, how many ?

50 ?

100 ?

DDFR will always want/need his 75.1%

It may sound harsh Newt-it may also be correct!

QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Sep 17 2008, 08:24 PM) [snapback]513864[/snapback]
Not everyone can afford to go to games let alone buy shares. The timing of the announcement was indeed bad times as the marketing slowly began to decline to its current state, was this a forced move or a desperate effort to offload the club..

Need to stay off this board..starting to sound like MJ ph34r.gif


NOBODY SOUNDS LIKE MORTONJAG EXCEPT MORTONJAG mad.gif
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 17 2008, 08:25 PM) [snapback]513865[/snapback]
I'm calling it now...13 pages before this stops!

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QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 17 2008, 08:29 PM) [snapback]513870[/snapback]
Well, puggsy, as you are the accountant, should we ask you to keep count of the pages ?

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Port ton described him as an adder.
mortonjag 2008-09-17 20:50:47
QUOTE(Ballboy @ Sep 17 2008, 08:43 PM) [snapback]513893[/snapback]
I realise we were at home. All i said was that i wasnt sitting behind you on Saturday and don't sit at home games.

And all I have said is that you appear to be acquainted with me and claim to have sat behind me at matches, which I happen to know is incorrect! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-17 20:55:55
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Sep 17 2008, 08:48 PM) [snapback]513904[/snapback]
Suppose thats a good point you made MJ, would feel sorry for anyone who genuinely did laugh.gif

A common mistake my friend! laugh.gif

QUOTE(cornbeef @ Sep 17 2008, 08:50 PM) [snapback]513906[/snapback]
Nice one. and some have described you as a detractor. happy.gif

The crowds are not multiplying Cloth ears!

QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 17 2008, 08:51 PM) [snapback]513908[/snapback]
MJ, I said it was harsh.

At no time did I say it was incorrect.

Was there any commercial reason to announce the share issue 3 months ago ?

I cannot think of one.

NOPE! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-17 20:59:07
QUOTE(Ballboy @ Sep 17 2008, 08:52 PM) [snapback]513909[/snapback]
At no point have I claimed or implied to be acquainted with you. I just know that at least one away game I have sat very close to you.

HA-the truth at last-did you enjoy the magnetism?
mortonjag 2008-09-17 22:22:11
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 17 2008, 09:07 PM) [snapback]513923[/snapback]
When I worked in France there was a woman there called Fanny b*****d.


She may have been divorced from Claude Bols.
mortonjag 2008-09-17 22:30:14
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 17 2008, 09:13 PM) [snapback]513926[/snapback]
Aye I have the original Mr E. Along with the Stone of Destiny, the book of Deer, the Lewis Chessmen, the Wallace letter of safe conduct ......etc angel.gif

Spurtle I just can't quite reconcile a man with such impeccable historical taste with a ravin' POUFFE humpin' rid hot paranoid nationalist nutter.

I believe you're making all this stuff up. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-17 22:39:26
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 17 2008, 08:38 PM) [snapback]513884[/snapback]
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I doudt it, but if you're more interested in posting on here when surrounded by lovely ladies showing off their bare scuddy boobies then you really need to have a word with yourself.

I multi task with sublime ease! laugh.gif

QUOTE(capitanus @ Sep 17 2008, 09:55 PM) [snapback]513943[/snapback]
Erm, i dont think the lyricist for that one will ever become the next Ray Davies. I mean, what has "Papists in Rome" got to do with Irish migrants in Scotland being told to 'go home'?

This isn't footballs problem, its a problem with Scotlands society as a whole. A sizeable section of our society are intolerant towards catholics, and football is merely the place it manifests itself. Even with allsorts of sanctions by FIFA, UEFA etc. it will still go on.
Agree.
I might have known that someone on here would lay the blame of all this on the existance of catholic schools. Surely intolerance and ignorance by the culprits are to blame?

Catholic schools exist and co-exist in many countries across the world, some rich and some poor, without no trouble at all. But in this one wee warped and backwards country are they resented in such a way and blamed for society's ills.

I certainly don't 'resent' Catholic schools any more than I resent Jewish schools, or 'Proddy' schools. I simply object to the indisputably unhealthy 'divisions' which exist in this wee warped part of our wee country, and I believe that segregating children on the strength of religion is mediaeval.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 06:35:46
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 17 2008, 08:57 PM) [snapback]513913[/snapback]
Last year I was offered a job at 20% less basic salary than I was on at the time but with a company where I could express myself, learn the business and move forward. Did I take the job? Of course I did.

I wouldn't go anywhere near any of the tossers who went to Gretna. A simple look at Companies House would have told you anything you need to know. Balance sheet is everything. If you're too stupid to understand that then hell mend you.

Back on topic. Stoke use the long throw in because they are s***e and are playing teams who are good.
We supposedly have a team of quality footballers; Jenkins, McGuffie, McManus have all been lauded on here so get the ball on the deck and play football.

Last year I was offered a fitted sheet at 20% less than the one that was on at the time but with material I'd have to press myself. Did I take it? Of course I didn't.

Vallance sheet is everything. If you're too stupid to understand that Peter I hope you singe your tankard hand on the iron.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 06:44:26
QUOTE(Ballboy @ Sep 17 2008, 09:01 PM) [snapback]513918[/snapback]
Its not like I was keeping a big secret. It was funnier when someone shouted to one of my mates "its that mortonjag?" and pointed at someone who wasnt you but you were sitting right infront of us laugh.gif

I repeat that I happen to know that that is incorrect.

QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 17 2008, 09:08 PM) [snapback]513924[/snapback]
that's bloody hilarious.
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Ballboy, you should be on the stage.

Indeed Newt, the next one to leave town.

Only three posters have ever met Mortonjag, and each of those would chat to Mortonjag at matches.

This young gentleman may believe he knows Mortonjag-if so why not introduce himself next time. He might get a bloody nose from Beermonkey or someone else in the intelligentsia.

Maybe they think Mortonjag bites! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-18 06:51:04
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 17 2008, 09:00 PM) [snapback]513917[/snapback]
Well we both are quite wriggly smile.gif

I'd describe PT as lithe!

QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 17 2008, 10:00 PM) [snapback]513944[/snapback]
I trust he is not a puff adder ???

Are snakes not hermaphrodites or am I thinking of worms? All this talk of wriggling confuses me. Which leads me to ask the question: are backward worms POUFFES?
mortonjag 2008-09-18 06:57:21
QUOTE(Ballboy @ Sep 16 2008, 01:56 PM) [snapback]513199[/snapback]
Does anyone know how much it is for student on Saturday, i looked on the plastic whistle webside but all i could find was stuff about downloading forms, there is no mention of arrangements for away fans.



QUOTE(Ballboy @ Sep 16 2008, 02:21 PM) [snapback]513210[/snapback]
I will just put my finger over the part time bit of my student card ph34r.gif



QUOTE(Ballboy @ Sep 17 2008, 08:46 PM) [snapback]513897[/snapback]
que mortonjag..........

Fing is rapidly building up a profile of you 'Speccy'.

26 year old, not very bright, claims to be student, possesses duff matric card-thinks Beermonkey is Mortonjag.

As soon as he's got you for sure you will receive an invitation to Mortonjag's cellar.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 07:00:57
QUOTE(Ballboy @ Sep 17 2008, 10:43 PM) [snapback]513956[/snapback]
So you've never came back from Cappielow and said we played crap today or we were amazing?

Get a life and stop being pedantic.


'Chalk and cheese'? dry.gif
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 17 2008, 11:49 PM) [snapback]513982[/snapback]
Why does Ballboy seem to be the only person talking any sense around here lately? im the biggest w*nker out of all of us but give the guy a break. tongue.gif

You are NOT as tall as Pantaloons.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 07:09:16
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Sep 18 2008, 05:00 AM) [snapback]514005[/snapback]
CODE
I wanted to figure out if it was safe to pump her mid-shudder.

smile.gif

I took it more as another 'know it all' throwing his tuppence worth in to an already totally off point topic!

As promised I wrote to the St. Ambulance Ambulance Service and received a reply yesterday.

They have still to produce a full report of the incident but at this stage they appear to feel that there were several factors which influenced the behaviour of their crew, INCLUDING directions from the police, and actions taken already by the public.

I will update posters when I have more information.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 07:15:01
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 18 2008, 06:54 AM) [snapback]514012[/snapback]
naw - they are probably pouffe adders ?

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You're trying to confuse me again-Puggsy is the POUFFE Adder remember!
mortonjag 2008-09-18 07:20:47
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Sep 17 2008, 10:56 PM) [snapback]513961[/snapback]
Where do you work? huh.gif

He's the latest POUFFE adder recruit to the financial snake pit that is Glasgow City Cooncil, I believe.

The way Cooncil things are, he'll be oot the door in a few months unless he can fiddle the figures for himself! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-18 07:27:24 The other half claims there's an Annette Fish at her work.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 07:29:58
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 17 2008, 11:52 AM) [snapback]513617[/snapback]
Call me pedantic but I'd hardly call dictatorships such as China and North Korea 'left'.

I'd rather use your proper name, Peter.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 07:35:35
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 17 2008, 10:55 PM) [snapback]513958[/snapback]
Ah canny get ma heid roon that wan MJ blink.gif

Get yer heid roon this then:


rel·i·quar·y
–noun,
a repository or receptacle for relics.

Directors' box?
mortonjag 2008-09-18 07:40:02
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 17 2008, 09:07 PM) [snapback]513921[/snapback]
With too few US dollars.



QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 17 2008, 09:32 PM) [snapback]513931[/snapback]
Its okay then - problem solved I guess.
I'm off to print my own too... blush.gif

Word of advice SPARROT-take all your pocket money out of the bank NOW and buy Golden Casket shares.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 07:44:46
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Sep 18 2008, 12:56 AM) [snapback]513996[/snapback]
I'd f***ing love my Doc to ask me to bring a Monday morning s***e to the surgery! laugh.gif

He actually said 'a sample of anal waste'-a rather bizarre term I thought at the time. Visions of ineffectual homosexual partners were running through my head, though I wouldn't have dreamed of mentioning that.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 07:55:01
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 17 2008, 10:58 PM) [snapback]513962[/snapback]
Sorry sawbones, kids are not segregated on the basis of religion.

Kids are sent to different schools on the basis of parental choice.

Tomorrow I shall teach taigs, muslims, Hindus, agnostics and atheists, and protestants. ohmy.gif

Their folks wanted them to go to a school with a Catholic ethos. smile.gif

I am very well aware of the unusual cultural and primarily money driven mix that is the St Andrews' catchment area, Dr Taig Bam..

I'm talking about real schools where the majority of kids are sent on the basis of parental 'choice' indeed, but a choice influenced heavily by their religious persuasion or leaning.

We've had comprehensive education since the seventies-mixed ability classes even-and still kids are allowed to believe from the age of four or five years that they are DIFFERENT.

It's wrong, it's divisive, and it is largely tolerated and indeed encouraged to pander to strong RELIGIOUS lobbying.


Anyway-you knew all that, you old pestle pounder.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 08:33:31
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 18 2008, 05:16 AM) [snapback]514006[/snapback]

There was some Elvin guy played a trial for the Ton a year or so back. If I re-call correctly he scored twice against Dundee but was sent packing. I think his board and lodgings were proving too expensive for the Club.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 09:17:07
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 17 2008, 09:28 PM) [snapback]513930[/snapback]
These are the 27 suggestions put forward by Liam Byrne, the immigration minister, to bring together the different communities living in England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland for britishness Day.

These suggestions are contained in his pamphlet, titled 'A More United britain' and it's comedy gold ........

1 As a national event, celebrated in local areas

2 With a good cross-section of society on the organising committee; lots of small community events; have a particular theme - different theme each year, set by organising committee

3 By using TV to inform about British history; a speech by the Queen; TV link-ups around country blink.gif

4 In the form of a remembrance day celebrating the bravery of veterans.

5 By encouraging young people to visit or help older people; celebrate voluntary work.

6 Through school involvement – teach history, choirs singing.

7 Through daytime activities to involve whole community, and evening for partying.

8 By holding street parties and neighbourhood get-together; would work as a street party – exchanging food and culture mellow.gif

9 As a carnival similar to the Notting Hill Carnival; big procession similar to St Paul's Carnival; fireworks

10 Through music – British or world music; concerts like Live Aid; British music; play local music; local dress

11 Through dance – British dancers; Morris dancing; folk dancing laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

12 Through food – British and other cultures; regional food; different cultures' foods

13 Through drinking rolleyes.gif

14 Through art; involve theatre; free film viewings on history of Britain

15 By having a sports theme – all nationalities can take part; football

16 By celebrating different cultural dress

17 By holding community discussions; meetings in town halls

18 By promoting posters of iconic figures, eg fallen heroes, Winston Churchill laugh.gif

19 By holding a ceremony to remember the good things over the past year

20 By appreciating the country; weather; enjoyment

21 Cheaply so people get involved

22 By holding free events around the city

23 By incorporating countries that used to be part of the Empire dry.gif

24 By making it about integration

25 By using publicity to ensure people get involved – like Children in Need

26 By emphasising the theme of British life, immigration, remembrance; cost should be met locally as shows that putting into the local community helps to get something good back

27 In an understated but firm way, without fuss; show good and bad aspects of living in Britain (and how bad aspects are being addressed) – give honest picture.

Spurtle in full heilan' dress.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 09:24:07
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 18 2008, 07:44 AM) [snapback]514023[/snapback]
Will Golden Casket shares skyrocket then, like the price of gold did yesterday ???

If they do, will Sparrot make Millions ?

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The answer to both questions is 'Yes'! laugh.gif

QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 18 2008, 09:08 AM) [snapback]514039[/snapback]
I think Alex Salmond is spot on when he says this situation is down to spivs and speculators. As an economist, he obviously understands the situation better than most. It's got nothing to do with Mathewson etc - it's been caused by the (immoral IMHO) practice of short selling - basically speculators selling shares they don't own - and that practice should be made illegal immediately. Apparently the companies that hold shares owned by pension funds and even by privaye investors (in nominee accounts) lend them out to these spivs to allow them to gamble with them, and they do so to the extent that they can manipulate the share prices. Should be illegal - it's the same as someone borrowing your car while you're asleep and using it as a taxi, then returning it at 6am with the fuel tank empty.

I was absolutely gobsmacked by Gordon Brown's indecently quick announcement that they would waive normal monopoly rules to allow what was still a nominally Scottish company to be taken over and destroyed, with the inevitable consequences of thousands of jobs being lost in Scotland (probably a few in England & Wales too but small numbers by comparison), and the HQ of the merged compnay being moved to London. Would it be overly cynical of me to suggest that Brown sees this as a good thing - damaging the Scottish economy and then he will tell us we're too small and poor to be independent? He seems to have been very keen for this takeover to occur - and since when did multi billion pound takeovers get arranged in the space of about 20 minutes? Maybe I'm being too cynical but I wonder if Brown's cronies had any hand in the short selling attack that forced the price down so far? It will be interesting to see if the same happens to RBS next.

Incidentally, why does a drop in the share price mean that a compnay has to be taken over? Surely its assets and its business are unchanged? And why was the UK government so quick to bail out Northern Rock but stood by watching BoS be destroyed?

This business raises a lot of questions. I think there is more to this than meets the eye.

mortonjag 2008-09-18 09:25:05
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 18 2008, 07:44 AM) [snapback]514023[/snapback]
Will Golden Casket shares skyrocket then, like the price of gold did yesterday ???

If they do, will Sparrot make Millions ?

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The answer to both questions is 'Yes'! laugh.gif

QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 18 2008, 09:08 AM) [snapback]514039[/snapback]
I think Alex Salmond is spot on when he says this situation is down to spivs and speculators. As an economist, he obviously understands the situation better than most. It's got nothing to do with Mathewson etc - it's been caused by the (immoral IMHO) practice of short selling - basically speculators selling shares they don't own - and that practice should be made illegal immediately. Apparently the companies that hold shares owned by pension funds and even by privaye investors (in nominee accounts) lend them out to these spivs to allow them to gamble with them, and they do so to the extent that they can manipulate the share prices. Should be illegal - it's the same as someone borrowing your car while you're asleep and using it as a taxi, then returning it at 6am with the fuel tank empty.

I was absolutely gobsmacked by Gordon Brown's indecently quick announcement that they would waive normal monopoly rules to allow what was still a nominally Scottish company to be taken over and destroyed, with the inevitable consequences of thousands of jobs being lost in Scotland (probably a few in England & Wales too but small numbers by comparison), and the HQ of the merged compnay being moved to London. Would it be overly cynical of me to suggest that Brown sees this as a good thing - damaging the Scottish economy and then he will tell us we're too small and poor to be independent? He seems to have been very keen for this takeover to occur - and since when did multi billion pound takeovers get arranged in the space of about 20 minutes? Maybe I'm being too cynical but I wonder if Brown's cronies had any hand in the short selling attack that forced the price down so far? It will be interesting to see if the same happens to RBS next.

Incidentally, why does a drop in the share price mean that a compnay has to be taken over? Surely its assets and its business are unchanged? And why was the UK government so quick to bail out Northern Rock but stood by watching BoS be destroyed?

This business raises a lot of questions. I think there is more to this than meets the eye.

I strongly agree with the highlighted comments.

Greed, greed, and more greed!
mortonjag 2008-09-18 09:28:29
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 18 2008, 08:47 AM) [snapback]514028[/snapback]
My full is Pedantic Weatherson, I'm called Peter for short Doogie.

Your peed antics are well recorded Peter.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 09:31:13
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Sep 18 2008, 09:03 AM) [snapback]514033[/snapback]
let me educate you..... the question in this thread/poll is to see who else has been ignored by the club when asking pertinent questions about the clubs ambitions/plans/future.. now as fans of Morton this is entirely reasonable... I did not ask the clubs opinion on ardgowan football developement.. I asked the club if a setup similar to what Ardgowan have is something they would be interested in doing / getting involved in... I did not ask Gillian opinion of anything.. I emailed the club through the official route given on the official website.. I would expect my email to be directed to the correct person to answer it..... now is all that ok with you, or do you want to change everything round to support your own completely head in the sand arguments and defending of the club on situations that are indefensible !

I notice that almost four in every ten have been ignored.

That's pretty ignorant IMO.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 09:33:34
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 18 2008, 09:03 AM) [snapback]514034[/snapback]
That was actually quite funny. Are you feeling ok?

I'm feeling a bit down actually-very fussy about my downies I am.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 09:35:33
QUOTE(Mr Toon @ Sep 18 2008, 09:07 AM) [snapback]514038[/snapback]
A puff adder is someone who farts in the bath and counts the bubbles.

Just trying to bring a bit of gravitas to this thread!

Ah-Bisto.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 09:38:41
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Sep 18 2008, 09:25 AM) [snapback]514053[/snapback]
Puggsy works fur the cooncil??? Where's the garlic....

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I'll leave it to him to confirm but he claims to be using my bloody money! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-18 09:42:53
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Sep 18 2008, 09:36 AM) [snapback]514064[/snapback]
As Maverick said to Goose..." crashed and burned.."

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Nobody's got money now MrsT! Haven't you heard of the credit crunch? It's a level field now....which is where I want you!

Like this?
mortonjag 2008-09-18 09:48:44
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Sep 18 2008, 09:39 AM) [snapback]514066[/snapback]
obviously there is a lot of people who have commented on this thread without knowing the history surrounding both celtic..or for tyhat fact scotland, celtic were FOUNDED by an Irish priest for the irish imigrants in glasgow.. thats their history, and they do and should be allowed to remember this.. Rangers were founded by protestant mind f***ers who took aversion to the fact that catholics had something they didnt.. hence rangers have NO history, only bigotry and hatred, and alleigance to the 'crown' of engerland... Catholic persecutuion was and still is a fact in this country, as long as catholics DO NOT have the same rights as protestants, then this will not go away.. anyone whop thinks that the 'we are the peepul' guys do not persecute catholics are burying their head in the sand... we CANT have a catholic prime minister.... we CANT have a catholic monarch... and before anyone starts banging away.. we used to have a catholic monarch , so why not allowed now ??? the bigotry and sectarianism goes all the way to the very top, and that is why it will never be stamped out... why is this govt allowed to be sectarian yet the guy in the street isnt ???

get scotland independant.. then we can sort out the other problems without the hinderance of the most sectarian biggoted country on earth..engerland .

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Be all that as it may, I believe that the general opinion of Morton supporters is that 'they are both at it, and it's wrong'.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 11:04:40
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 18 2008, 10:29 AM) [snapback]514101[/snapback]
Gives a meal man appeal ???

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Browns
It
Seasons and
Thickens in
One
mortonjag 2008-09-18 11:36:51
QUOTE(cmdc @ Sep 18 2008, 10:47 AM) [snapback]514119[/snapback]
What makes you say that? I tend to find him a pretty balanced reporter.

If wee Graham (Speirs) was the son of a Catholic Priest (I speak of course hypothetically) and not of a Baptist Minister, his articles on one half of the OF would be laughed to scorn.

As Barbie says he's just a hypocritical wee weasel who is jumping on this bandwagon to get nice juicy articles which will be perceived as 'balanced'.

As I've now said several times, they are both at it, and as Morton supporters we should be condemning them universally instead of trying to score cheap points in sad exposure of our own religious peccadillos.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 11:41:45
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 18 2008, 11:30 AM) [snapback]514147[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif Very lifelike.

Nice tits!
mortonjag 2008-09-18 11:47:51
QUOTE(Laura_w @ Sep 18 2008, 11:06 AM) [snapback]514129[/snapback]
my student card doesnt have a valid to date jst says session 07/08 and issued on 27/09/07 my uni doesnt go back til nxt week so will jst say i havent got my new card yet if they ask.

It's fair then to assume it's valid till 27th September as they are renewed annually.

Just smile and look sweet-you'll be fine!
mortonjag 2008-09-18 11:51:51
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Sep 18 2008, 11:48 AM) [snapback]514159[/snapback]
Can I interest you in a wee proposition? I have $30m stuck in a bank account in Matabeleland. I can't account for this money officially but with the help of my government friend in Harare we can get it out of the country! Unfortunately my friend, this requires some greasing of palms and this is where you come in! If you invest £10,000 of your English pounds we can release the money! I will share with you on a 90/10 basis my friend. Keep this to yourself. Let me know asap ph34r.gif

signed


Roland Bacon.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 11:57:47
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Sep 18 2008, 11:40 AM) [snapback]514155[/snapback]
heres a wee example for you... when I was about 11 a group of us used hang about belville st area, one night we were hanging around outside a bb place on bawhirley road (spelling).. anyway we went in and asked to join..3 of my mates were allowed to join and me and 2 others were told by the guy in charge that we would be better going to the cubs/scouts.. this was after he had asked us what schools we went to.

I know how you feel. Last night I turned up at the ladies keep fit class-fully equipped in purple leotard and soft trainers.

After asking me what school I went to the bouncers took one look at each other, burst out laughing, and said I'd be better off going to A & E to see a psychiatrist.

People can be SO cruel.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 12:17:58
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 18 2008, 12:01 PM) [snapback]514166[/snapback]
Yeah, coz that's the same.

The BB is supposedly inter-denominational, for one thing. For another, just because someone goes to an RC school does not mean they are RC (just as someone who goes to a so-called non-demo school needn't be CoS or another kind of protestant.)

If the BB was an expressly protestant organisation that would be one thing, but it isn't. It is discrimination by the back door.

Discrimination will always exist in one form or another. I'm merely trying to get folk to focus on this thread and forget their individual experiences which, de facto, are not necessarily representative of the bigger picture.

By all means start another thread entitled 'Does discrimination against Catholics still exist?'.

It will probably run for twenty pages and achieve very little if anything at all.

What seems to be happening here is that some people are trying to justify, or at least ameliorate the behaviour of one set of 'religious' bigots relative to another.

Irrespective of genuine personal grievances, that in my mind, is still condoning bigotry.


mortonjag 2008-09-18 12:23:44 F*CK CALF LICK SKOOLS
mortonjag 2008-09-18 12:40:33
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 18 2008, 12:25 PM) [snapback]514175[/snapback]
Maybe cowshed_warrior is a bigot, I don't know him. But I don't think his raising an example of discrimination by the back door is to be shouted down.

I don't think that what you perceive as 'discrimination by the back door' - and you may be correct - has any relevance to an impartial debate on the behaviour of OF bigots.

The fact that some Morton supporters refuse to keep it impartial (or are simply incapable thereof) is, in terms solely of this thread, lamentable, and comes over to me as, deliberate or not, condoning bigotry by attempting to justify the behaviour of one element relative to the other.

As to your comment about 'shouting down', it seems to me that there is indeed much 'shouting'!
mortonjag 2008-09-18 12:44:17
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 18 2008, 12:41 PM) [snapback]514184[/snapback]
laugh.gif poor guys gonna get some stick

How's yer Holy Willie Mick?
mortonjag 2008-09-18 12:47:07
QUOTE(TCox @ Sep 18 2008, 12:43 PM) [snapback]514185[/snapback]
Ah so that's what positive discrimination means.

Nice to see 7 pages of bigot brother bollocks on a Morton website.

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mortonjag 2008-09-18 14:27:44
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Sep 18 2008, 02:07 PM) [snapback]514228[/snapback]
Bugger me silly with a teaspoon!
What a load of pompous pish. Get off yer high horse Doctor! My line of work is slated by the general public constantly, but your up the khyber with a claes pole if you think i would come on a website and preach about it.
If this was posted on www.lancetunofficial.org I could see the point of you going off on one. as it is, this is a fitba fans web page, and fitba fans being fitba fans we are ignorant of everything bar bovril and lukewarm pies, so no need to be so parochial and try to obtain a moral high ground.

Love ya!

Paddy

I'd prefer to use a telegraph pole, or maybe a twenty megaton torpedo would suit better! smile.gif


Rudimentary first aid has f*ck all to do with the medical profession. Why on earth would a man of my impeccable standards and vast experience give a toss about two or three kids volunteering to tote a stretcher about a scabby wee football stadium on a grey September afternoon?

Moral high ground? Aye perhaps I don't like 'lynch mobs'.

I don't like them when they have a go at the forces either!

Dammit-I've forgotten already-did you make a valid point, or is your arse just desperate to spoon? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-18 14:32:48
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 18 2008, 02:08 PM) [snapback]514230[/snapback]
As below
I'll try my best smile.gif
...no...your money is paying me. I aint been paid yet but believe me I will be using it this weekend on things doctors probably believe shouldn't be done to excess smile.gif

Church offering?
mortonjag 2008-09-18 14:38:38
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 18 2008, 02:07 PM) [snapback]514229[/snapback]
.........there are a few choice (and not so choice) auld relics just BEHIND the directors' box............

You'd know of course Russells' Muscles Mabawsa Ronnie Boy.

I hope your paymaster's arse doesn't smell as offensive as that post, or they might be 'outed'.

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mortonjag 2008-09-18 14:50:56
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 18 2008, 02:42 PM) [snapback]514242[/snapback]
Heh heh - I haven't read all of this thread as it wasn't of great interest to me, not having seen the incident. However, it's good to see the old boy getting all aereated about something instead of just stirring the kack as usual!

One thing I'd like you to do, Doc. Look at the above excerpts from your "epic" post. Remember the righteous indignation you felt while you typed it. Think of the contempt you felt for the nosy interfering vultures putting their tuppenceworth in.

And then try to put yourself in the shoes of Douglas or Crawford Rae and imagine THEIR feelings of annoyance when some wee retired GP tries to tell them how to run their businesses.......... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Each to his own, auld yin. You can deal with your discipline and are perfectly entitled to criticise those who don't have your level of expertise. But bear in mind the way you're viewed when YOU become the "smart ass wannabe" yourself!! tongue.gif

You are absolutely right Ronnie Boy.

Douglas and Crawford are to be highly commended for the superlative success they are achieving in their 'discipline'.

Tell them that when you pick up your next massive wage poke. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-18 14:52:03
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Sep 18 2008, 02:47 PM) [snapback]514245[/snapback]
Cannae remember, think just the spoon...

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mortonjag 2008-09-18 15:02:09
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 18 2008, 02:56 PM) [snapback]514252[/snapback]
You've asked before, and I've told you, that my only connection to Morton is as a season-ticket-holding supporter and I have never had any association to Golden Casket or any other company associated with the Raes.

To quote the late, great(?) Jimmy Sanderson - are you accusing me of mendacity, doc??

Ronnie Boy, your credibility probably ranks up there with the success of your paymasters!

2,200 at Cappielow on Saturday-if it gets much worse the old sugar boiler will be looking for redundancies! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-18 15:21:37
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 18 2008, 03:08 PM) [snapback]514260[/snapback]
if he's ever looking for rePUGnancies then he need only look over his shoulder from the Directors' Box. biggrin.gif

I can well understand your pathological need to be so near his arse Ronnie boy.

QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 18 2008, 03:09 PM) [snapback]514261[/snapback]
My goodness there are some very long winded answers on this thread.

Man collapses
Unsure if epileptic or heart related.
Check consciousness
Check Breathing
Clear airways if required
Move to recovery position
Call Ambulance.
Get out the way when professionals arrive.


I seen this as help was already at hand, and yes, some of the St.Andrews seemed unsure but members of the public had already carried out basic first aid, made a simple diagnosis and called an Ambulance. Apart from getting him on a stretcher there was not a lot left for them to do. I seen no reason to get involved as too many cooks defintely spoil the broth, the members of public had done all that could have been done. (and a big well done to them too)

A similar situation happened last year in a local drinking establishment. I carried out the basic first aid I was taught as a 17 year old and with the help of a Nurse drinking friend made the man comfortable. Ambulance arrived and advised we had acted correctly. That’s good enough for me.
Wasn’t easy though as the drinkers in the pub were stepping over the guy to get to the bar, but hey that’s life in Inverclyde, cheap.

I have no idea to this day what was wrong and made no assumption at the time.



Regarding the highlighted part, the only additional action I'd recommend it to shoot all the ghouls who come within ten paces!


'Dae sumpin, effin dae sumpin-he's no breathin'-he looks a goner-are ye no gonnae dae sumpin'.

ARSEHOLES-some of whom appear to have been represented among this thread's lynch mob.

If the cap fits wear it. ph34r.gif

mortonjag 2008-09-18 15:26:02 You REALLY don't like it up your paymasters, do you Ronnie boy? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-18 15:33:29
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 18 2008, 03:02 PM) [snapback]514255[/snapback]
heh heh, you're floundering, auld yin. Those posters have nothing to do with me, and as for "paymasters" I have nothing to do with Morton except as a supporter - I presume that's what your rather opaque second line was implying? Actually, ignore the question mark there as I'm honestly not that interested in what you think.

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Do me a favour Ronnie boy, and read what you just said. If there was no Jag, there would be no Ronnie boy.

That's actually quite sad, come to think of it! sad.gif

I've been a bit shy of asking, but do you print out all your posts on the forum and proudly present them to the old fud each time it's your turn for ritual arse kissing?

He must be SO proud of his court jester.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 16:43:44
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 18 2008, 03:55 PM) [snapback]514293[/snapback]
You been sniffing the ether again sawbones? laugh.gif
St Andrew's is in Carntyne, one of the more deprived areas of Glasgow, and I don't teach there. Interestingly it has a large number of non catholic pupils too, just like my school. I guess that you would call it a "Real" school.

Nope Dr Bam-I just have a poor memory-anyway Andrew is a far nicer name than Ninian!


It would be nice to know the actual figures and how you define 'non-catholic', but that's a total digression from the thread.

Unfortunately I can't get it on line, but Bill Leckie's article in today's Scottish Scum, pretty well summarises what most of us seem to have been thinking.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 16:50:43
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Sep 18 2008, 03:38 PM) [snapback]514280[/snapback]
I give up what is it? A handbag

It's Spurtle's hoose. The door's roon the back.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 16:54:20
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 18 2008, 03:13 PM) [snapback]514263[/snapback]
How much do GC shares trade for? As a private limited company I doubt I'd be able to buy any anyway - if they were a plc a certain Mr Newall would have pawned the hoose to to buy GC outright years ago. laugh.gif

Really-and who exactly is this person of whom you type my child?
mortonjag 2008-09-18 17:00:18
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 18 2008, 12:54 PM) [snapback]514193[/snapback]
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Your opinion on my looks matter not a jot. If you were a bird I might take offence, but then again if you were a bird I would still hope you thought I was ugly because you my dear old friend would make the ugly sisters look positively ravishing. You would turn to Islam just to get to wear a Bhurka. ph34r.gif

GIRUY wub.gif .

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mortonjag 2008-09-18 17:04:59
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 18 2008, 04:56 PM) [snapback]514336[/snapback]
heh heh - you're so fond of referring to yourself in the third person I could ask EXACTLY the same question of you....... laugh.gif laugh.gif

Aye, you love yourself - or, at least, you would if you could get around to it!!

Of course I do Ronnie boy, and so does everybody else who knows Mortonjag-ESPECIALLY my lovely young partner whose baws probably make yours look like peanuts-talking of which, how much does that old fud pay his minions?
mortonjag 2008-09-18 17:08:12 We seem to have forgotten that the thread's about one set of bigots clyping on another!!!!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-18 17:11:03
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 18 2008, 05:08 PM) [snapback]514353[/snapback]
Aperitif of Pineau de Charentes in hand, ooo the smell eminating from my arse is attracting a crowd of dugs. tongue.gif

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mortonjag 2008-09-18 17:25:52 quote RON NUMBER

Or if the cap fits, USE it - advice I wish your mother had heeded nine months before you were born.......... dry.gif


And back to where you came in Ronnie boy.

A poster who adopted an identity with the sole purpose of attacking one other-already banned at least once and warned by another Mod that you are on a 'shoogly peg'.

You clearly DO have an agenda

I do not believe a word of your nonsense about having no connection with the Raes or GMFC.

The personal stuff cuts no ice with me. It's the common denominator for those who cannot match my wit. It is a definition of your ultimate incompetence, and it's in breach of the forum rules.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 17:48:16
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 18 2008, 05:44 PM) [snapback]514372[/snapback]
migawd, look at this - it's a trainee mortonbrag.

How very (un)original.................... dry.gif

No-it's another poster's perception of the fact that you are up the Rae's arses big style.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 17:56:21
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 18 2008, 05:45 PM) [snapback]514374[/snapback]
Seperate Catholic schools (paid for by the state or otherwise) exist in various countries across the world, including the USA and England.
Seems perfectly able to co-exist everywhere else without problems except for West Central Scotland.

I'm sure that's true.

I still believe that the way ahead worldwide is to remove religious control from education.

The very fact that this thread has run to so many pages is a demonstration of the undercurrent of intolerance which exists even in apparently bona fide Morton Supporters.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 18:00:15
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 18 2008, 05:54 PM) [snapback]514378[/snapback]
Hope he chokes on enjoys it

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I think he may re-appear in a few hours time 'full of the joys'! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-18 18:12:32 Up and down like a wh*re's knickers this season. We gubbed Hibs and were double gubbed in return by Airdrie.

We did well to beat Queens on their own patch and struggled to a draw on our own, and we're miserably propping up the league with our small squad of quality players.

Partick will be no walkover-a good example of how useful an experienced Manager can be-but we don't do experienced managers.

We've GOT to win this one. If we lose, the pressure on DI will become almost unbearable I'd guess, and a subsequent defeat by Caley could finally see folk baying for Mr Rae's head.

If the players want it enough, I firmly believe we can win this one. I'm hoping we've turned the corner at last.

Prediction-another DOUR encounter with Morton getting the only goal.(Jenkins blockbuster)!


C'MON YE TON
mortonjag 2008-09-18 18:27:41
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 18 2008, 06:18 PM) [snapback]514393[/snapback]
Now I've warned you about the older and rougher boys like Mortonjag before. If you hang around with him you'll end up in the Newland's Toi.

PHUK TEECHURZ ANOL
mortonjag 2008-09-18 18:45:33
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 18 2008, 06:08 PM) [snapback]514386[/snapback]
you are looking much younger on your avatar this afternoon.

Did you have a shave ?

Don't be ridiculous Mr Newton: that's a picture of myself at the recent fancy dress ball organised by the local Conservative Club where I hadn't realised the mask was still on when I posed for the Telegraph photographer, who also writes very nice articles about me when I tell him to, and is one of my oldest and dearest friends, and a Morton man through and through who just happened to mention to me yesterday that he thought my team selection last Saturday was spot on and that it was just a shame that the Referee was so biased and that the woodwork had prevented Iain from honouring us with one of his excellent goals, talking of which I confidently predict a sparkling encounter with our old rivals Partick Thistle this weekend where I'm expecting an superb turnout of our faithful fans who still have the outstanding victory there last April firmly imprinted in their minds and who will undoubtedly be expecting a repeat performance, something which I for one look forward to with increasing relish as the days pass by, and nothing would surprise me less than a brace of goals from our hitherto off form Peter with whom I've been having some encouraging words lately and who assures me that he is once again up for it.
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QUOTE(mortonjag @ Sep 18 2008, 05:25 PM) *
quote RON NUMBER

Or if the cap fits, USE it - advice I wish your mother had heeded nine months before you were born.......... dry.gif
And back to where you came in Ronnie boy.

A poster who adopted an identity with the sole purpose of attacking one other-already banned at least once and warned by another Mod that you are on a 'shoogly peg'. You're wrong again, matey. Firstly, no Mod has ever been in contact with me. And secondly, don't flatter yourself - this ID was NOT created in order to attack you, or anyone ELSE for that matter. I've posted several times today and far from all of them have been against, or critical of, you. If it seems that way to you, that's tough, but the only reason I make points against you is that I disagree with you on so many points and I find your general conduct on here to be in the main obnoxious. It's my right to criticise that, just as it's your right to carry on being obnoxious - it's a tenet known as "freedom of speech".

You clearly DO have an agenda Nope, see above, auld yin - I have OPINIONS, just as you do. And I have every right to disagree with YOUR opinions, whether you like that or not. As for "attacking" you - pots and kettles again! YOU attack virtually everyone who disagrees with you, and often on a personal, vindictive and foulmouthed basis - only a couple of hours ago you made offensive remarks about me and Douglas Rae's posterior. When are the mods gonna ban YOU? Is it all right for YOU to spew your filth at MANY posters rather than for ME to disagree in print with just a few?? I'd really like an answer from the mods about this!!

I do not believe a word of your nonsense about having no connection with the Raes or GMFC. Guess what - I DON'T CARE.

The personal stuff cuts no ice with me. It's the common denominator for those who cannot match my wit. Err, "wit"? WHAT wit?? Your paranoia is only matched by your self-delusion, auld yin! laugh.gif It is a definition of your ultimate incompetence, Whatever....... and it's in breach of the forum rules. Just like much of your output in here - and it's high time they did something about it! Mods, over to you.......




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"If you can't say nuthin' nice, don't say nuthin' at all......." - Thumper

They don't just hate you when you tell the truth - they just can't be arsed with you, EVER..............



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mortonjag 2008-09-18 18:57:30
QUOTE(Ghost @ Sep 18 2008, 06:28 PM) [snapback]514400[/snapback]
Where is FlightTon rolleyes.gif

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mortonjag 2008-09-18 19:08:20
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Sep 18 2008, 06:48 PM) [snapback]514406[/snapback]
ronnie... who the f*** are you to have a go at me ? firstly 37% of people polled are still waiting on a reply, now in my language thats 4 out of 10 people .. thats how i worked it out.. get someone to count it for you !...as for your auntie uncle , fag packet, i think the fact you couldnt work out that 37% rounded up is 4 out of 10 says it all, leave the numbers to grown up's son... lastly what makes you think I wasnt / arent balanced or open minded in my dealings with the club ?? have you been readings my emails to them ???? I would suggest your lack of basic maths and inability to understand the meaning of this thread/poll would make you the ideal employee of the club ! or are you higher up in the institution !

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QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 18 2008, 06:54 PM) [snapback]514407[/snapback]
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Gidday cowshed_warrior,

Do you find it strange that:

No employee of Morton FC posts here openly ?

Anyone "accused" of being an employee of Morton FC takes it as an insult ?

Just asking, mate.


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QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 18 2008, 06:58 PM) [snapback]514411[/snapback]
Indefenceable? you created a poll asking if people had gotten replies from the club and if they thought there was a problem with it, the majority of people have said they've gotten swift replies when emailing the club so either the club have a personal vendetta against you, your head is in the sand or you just ask them stupid questions.

I'd say you are at least two out of the three.

Rather than me trying to defend the club on situations that are indefencable, it is more like you are trying to create a problem about the club that isn't there.

Don't be a silly Billy darling, the club is already spoilt for choice with problems entirely of its own making.

Failing to respond to even one e-mail from a genuine fan IS INDEFENSIBLE.

Only a clown would attempt to justify a 60/40 ratio. If the poll is even REMOTELY near the truth it demonstrates a dismissive disregard for the paying customer of suicidal proportions.

The evidence of that slow self poisoning is amply demonstrated by progressively falling attendances at Cappielow to levels already well below those achieved in the third division.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 19:14:52
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 18 2008, 07:09 PM) [snapback]514419[/snapback]
If that is even close to being correct, cowshed warrior, then Sugar Rae certainly has the yes wo(men) that mortonjag claims he has at Cappielow.

I understand that employment in Inverclyde is somewhat limited.

However, this is 2008 ... A.D.

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All employees of the sweetie factory and the club must sign the official sucrets act.



mortonjag 2008-09-18 19:21:45
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 18 2008, 07:05 PM) [snapback]514415[/snapback]
QUOTE(mortonjag @ Sep 18 2008, 03:21 PM)
I can well understand your pathological need to be so near his arse Ronnie boy. At every home game YOU'RE much nearer to his arse then I've EVER been.

ARSEHOLES-some of whom appear to have been represented among this thread's lynch mob.

If the cap fits wear it. Or if the cap fits, USE it - advice I wish your mother had heeded nine months before you were born..........
Aw - that's not very nice, Ron Number.

Could you and mortonjag, in the interests of the Ton, have wee hug on the centre spot at Cappielow, before the Dunfermline match ?
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Mortonjag is extremely shy, but is happy to call a truce with Ronnie boy, and promises NEVER EVER AGAIN to say anything nasty to or about him unless he is abusive to Mortonjag first.

Just as it's always been! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-18 19:28:13
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 18 2008, 07:22 PM) [snapback]514433[/snapback]
You're right, crowds are going down because the club won't answer emails. Forget bring a friend dougie, just work out how to use a computer.

It would be interesting to see how many of the people who don't get replies ask questions that are easily answered by the person/people who recieve the emails. We're not a huge company, some of the questions probably only Dougie knows, and people expect Gillian or someone to phone him while he's in a meeting trying to run his multi million pound company and ask him things.

Frankly if i was the owner of a football club i'd have far more important things to do than answer completely unimportant questions.

You must almost have choked with laughter when you posted that sweetie! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-18 19:42:43
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 18 2008, 07:13 PM) [snapback]514425[/snapback]
mortonjag, I am now 110% convinced that that you are Sugar Rae's ghost writer for "Welcome to Cappielow" etc.

When will you have finished his biography please ?

Mr Newton, I have to hurry off for an important engagement with a very close, and very dear old friend who just happens to be an insolvency practitioner, but I'm absolutely certain without the remotest shadow of doubt that any further questions you have will be answered immediately by my excellent staff who man our call centre day and night throughout the year, come hell or high water, boom or recession, war or peace, and who will also graciously respond by return of first class post to any of those new fangled e male things, which I freely confess totally baffle me beyond belief though my wife has become a dab hand at the keyboard and is indeed currently preparing some home made Christmas Cards for our grandchildren.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 19:47:34
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 18 2008, 06:26 PM) [snapback]514398[/snapback]
Ninian wis Scottish.

Awmagod Doc, finding yourself in agreement with the Sun, you'll be agreeing with the Mail and Express next. laugh.gif

Help ma bob I found the text online and I agree with him. smile.gif
As stated above, Catholic schools have lots of non Catholic kids in them.
Whereas I would go for the Swedish model which removes much of state control.

Ninian was also the Rector of Pishley Grammar Dr Bam.

Andrew is a nice Scottish name.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 19:53:30
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 18 2008, 07:11 PM) [snapback]514422[/snapback]
Now Now that's not how you spell anal.

PHUK GUDE SPELLURZ TWO
mortonjag 2008-09-18 20:46:32
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Sep 18 2008, 07:21 PM) [snapback]514430[/snapback]
My sister went to school with a boy called Alexander Dick, who was known as Sandy. But I think that this one takes the prize for best use of name. I give you:

http://bp2.blogger.com/_TiqKRgLIW6Y/R87kpc...anny-Batter.jpg

Did the said lady give birth to Rosie Cox?
mortonjag 2008-09-18 20:55:17
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 18 2008, 08:20 PM) [snapback]514457[/snapback]
For a good jewish boy. rolleyes.gif

And we do have to share him with the Greeks and Russians.

As we have a Sassenach contender!


The traditional story is that he was born in Brythonic Cumbria but travelled to Rome as a young man to study Christianity. There he was made a bishop and given the task of converting the Picts by the Pope, St Siricius.

Tradition (first mentioned by Bede) states that around 397 he set up his base at Whithorn in south-west Scotland, building a stone church there, known as the Candida Casa which means the White House. From there he began work among the Northern Brythons of the surrounding area. Later he undertook a journey northwards along the east coast in order to spread!


I'm sure that's just folk lore and Spurtle will have the true answer on tightly scrunched up toilet paper in one of the deepest corners of his reliquary.
mortonjag 2008-09-18 21:05:34
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 18 2008, 08:58 PM) [snapback]514474[/snapback]
Cumbria of course encompassing south-west Scotland at the time.

Of course! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-19 06:55:47
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 18 2008, 08:50 PM) [snapback]514469[/snapback]
Yet another person who doesn't understand the general wit and thought processes of our resident doc.

Actually 'No' Weegie - and that's the sad thing. There is a residual hard core of 'insiders' and others not employed by Mr Rae but with a financial connection to Morton who are very bitter because they TOTALLY understand Mortonjag.

Apart from a couple of genuine posters who genuinely have psychological problems with their perception of Mortonjag, everything else is 'cool' those days.

Ron Number has an agenda. He is undoubtedly using an alias. The most likely close association he has is with the club or the Trust and he claims it's not the former.

Perhaps he's (currently posted missing) Spot Ton's master! unsure.gif



QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 18 2008, 08:55 PM) [snapback]514471[/snapback]
Gidday Bryan,

I'm a wee bit lost, mate.

We all know who MJ is, I believe.

Are you saying that Ron Member is hiding behind an alias ?

Why ?

Wee Bryan knew!!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-19 07:04:18
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Sep 18 2008, 09:17 PM) [snapback]514487[/snapback]
Oh Aye the gravy , for a minute I thought you were describing the state of SpotTon's tongue rolleyes.gif

Has he been put down?

QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 18 2008, 10:05 PM) [snapback]514496[/snapback]
My granny in Roxburgh Street made a lovely bit of tongue.

Then down to the Tally's for ice cream and rasberry.

And when I was really good, Sugar Rae's wee sweetie shop as well.

In the great and wonderful scheme of things Newt, it's just remotely possible than without your youthful sweet tooth there would now be no Morton FC.

I'm thinking Micawber style.

Do you think Mr Rae realises that most folk are wondering what the Dickens he's playing at?
mortonjag 2008-09-19 07:09:04
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Sep 18 2008, 09:09 PM) [snapback]514480[/snapback]
Nice positive post there Allan! huh.gif

'Allan'.

Is there no end to your idiocy, Anus?

It's a bloody ghost! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-19 07:12:48
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Sep 18 2008, 11:13 PM) [snapback]514520[/snapback]
Would have been good to get the club in the limelight for a bit, and the extra £££ would have come in handy of course, but it was never of any concern to me as I was always going to go. Had it been on tv, I think we would have had a pretty poor support up there.

Sadly I guess that will be the case whichever way.
mortonjag 2008-09-19 07:52:05 Roll out the barrel,
Spurtle's a dose of the 'runs'
Roll out the barrel,
Cliffy's been banging his bum
Sing boom tararrel,
Ring out a song of good cheer
Now's the time to roll the barrel,
For the queers are here. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-19 08:04:42
QUOTE(Loveless @ Sep 18 2008, 10:50 PM) [snapback]514515[/snapback]
£18,000 a year, how can people live on that?

They can and they do-very successfully at times, but they have to forego everything but basics.
mortonjag 2008-09-19 08:15:04
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 18 2008, 05:47 PM) [snapback]514376[/snapback]
He sendas letters to the SFA, scans (probably) and posts the on here without covering the return nme or address.
I'm sure you'll be more than wiling to correct me if and when I am wrong.

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It wasn't me Miss-it was the keyboard! dry.gif

I'm still wondering who this Mr Newall is, SPARROT.

Mortonjag sends letters to the S.F.A., and on one occasion his personal details were accidentally posted on this forum.

Mortonjag has four brothers-funnily enough, all entitled Mr Newall. All are Ton supporters and two contribute to this forum.

Do you refer to one of them?
mortonjag 2008-09-19 08:21:13
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 18 2008, 10:05 PM) [snapback]514497[/snapback]
A wee bit off topic here.... blink.gif

True Spurtle, and I wonder why? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-19 08:39:31
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 19 2008, 08:10 AM) [snapback]514543[/snapback]
Aye, it's not a bad place to work. Don't forget that the other objection against the school was that it would aso take in waens from Glasgow housing schemes: it still does. Because of their larger catchment areas Catholic schools are much more likely to be genuinely comprehensive.

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A sweeping statement Dr. Bam Taig-don't you think-surely demographic considerations apply rather than a simple prospective pupil per square mile, ratio!

I feel compelled to question the understanding of the word 'comprehensive' in educational circles.

Conceptually admirable, I have oft heard evidence of 'comprehensive' education failing both ends of the ability spectrum in a desperate attempt to be 'inclusive'.

Anyway, we're nicely moving the topic away from the closet bigotry! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-19 09:10:08
QUOTE(EBu @ Sep 19 2008, 09:03 AM) [snapback]514554[/snapback]
With Ross County being the only northen club I'd hoped they'd have gone with them, and although its not got anything to do with the TV station, the fact that the Rangers - Partick game is on Sky gives Partick yet more cash to strengthen again in January.

We have had rotten luck financially with our two cup runs-Caley at home's a bummer, and the chance of picking up some TV royalties from this one are now scuppered.

Forgetting kudos, we just HAVE to beat Inverness on Tuesday. As you correctly say, Thistle have made a huge amount of money from the cups recently. A similar sum could make quite a difference down Scapa way, if we're still to be stuck with the Rae dynasty next season.
mortonjag 2008-09-19 09:16:42
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Sep 19 2008, 09:04 AM) [snapback]514555[/snapback]
I hear today that the chairman of this 'Venerable Scottish Institution' is to receive a wee bonus of £2m, just for presiding over its demise. Nae luck for 24,000 of its workers though, all they can expect to receive is their P45. Another example of how corrupt and unjust the system is.

Lust
Gluttony
Greed
Sloth
Wrath
Envy
Pride
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mortonjag 2008-09-19 09:40:38
QUOTE(Ballboy @ Sep 19 2008, 09:28 AM) [snapback]514561[/snapback]
Your completly right about one thing, I aint the brightest. Never will be, but my matric card aint duff. Its perfectly valid. It as part time one cause i am working and doing college stuff for charity.

I only said i would cover the part time bit cause the plastic whistle website keeps going on about full time education.

Are you very wealthy?

If you are I think you should pay to get in! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-19 09:44:44
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 19 2008, 09:34 AM) [snapback]514562[/snapback]
Deleted blink.gif Not by me. Are the mods being selective again?
You know perfectly well what I am on about.
Separate schools, but I did not blame Catholic schools as you clearly implied. It is the entire system that need overhauled. IMO, Schools should be just that, for children where religion plays no part in the curriculum apart from general lessons on the history of all religions. (I know we are going to get, 'but that happens in schools as it is, and schools are mixed places, well not enough).

They still brainwash and instil their own ideologies upon children. Let the children decide outside the school gates for themselves.

There should be no schools funded part-funded or run by ANY religion. Anyone with half a brain understands that if you get kids early you can make them believe anything, and that includes the s***e that is religion.

Again I will ask why is there fear surrounding amalgamating our entire schooling system into one.



I'm sure that if it was left up to God he'd soon sort it out! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-19 10:09:26
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 19 2008, 09:53 AM) [snapback]514574[/snapback]
Fair points there MJ. I can see the reasoning behind it. My post was more a tongue in cheek dig at this Ron Number dude. I wonder if he is linked to this T Cox guy who obviously is getting kicks by slagging me on the Jimi Hendrix thread. I have my suspicions.

I'll have a wee look at that thread-T Cox hasn't bothered Mortonjag.

He's not married to Rosa is he?
mortonjag 2008-09-19 10:35:00
QUOTE(TCox @ Sep 19 2008, 10:28 AM) [snapback]514589[/snapback]
My name is Tam Cox.

I responded to Weegieton's comment on Jimi Hendrix - who I think is one of the finest guitarists of all time - and in a round about way pointed out that his petty moralistic judgement on Jimi's lifestyle is both pointless and in keeping with the bland nature of the music biz today.

When looking at some of his old posts I noticed that everyone is his "mate". He seems to be the boards resident Smashie and/or Nicie.

No agenda.

Hi mate!
mortonjag 2008-09-19 10:45:51
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 19 2008, 10:03 AM) [snapback]514577[/snapback]
blink.gif feck sake, its not a crusade or conspiracy.
He made an arse of it inventing mankind. rolleyes.gif Sack him I say, he has proved inept at his job, my arse would not touch the ground if I was THAT bad at my job.

P45 for God

He certainly made a c*nt of women's willies.
mortonjag 2008-09-19 12:52:25
QUOTE(TCox @ Sep 19 2008, 10:34 AM) [snapback]514593[/snapback]
You obviously have an inflated sense of self importance Mr Bland. I was merely commenting on your moralising re the lifestyle of one of the biggest names in rock music, not undertaking a wide ranging internet conspiracy to blacken the names of "important" Morton fans.

BOLLOCKS!

You launched straight into a personal tirade.

QUOTE(cmonaton @ Sep 19 2008, 11:26 AM) [snapback]514607[/snapback]
OMFG.another t*** hits the board.can't post anything construtive,apart from slagging the good long term posters on here.why the hell do you even bother coming on here you sad sack.

It great that some folk are now getting wise to this kind of behaviour.

QUOTE(cmonaton @ Sep 19 2008, 12:02 PM) [snapback]514614[/snapback]
I am on various forums outwith football.if anybody came on and started this kind of s***,they would be kicked off long ago.banter is one thing,personal tirades is completley different.they have no place on here or anywhere else on the internet..mods take note please.

I hope THE MODS DO TAKE NOTE.

I'm the first to admit that I'm deliberately abrasive, controversial, persistent, and occasionally impertinent, but I'd NEVER adopt an alias for the purpose of attacking other posters and in particular not to attempt to settle old scores.

The Mods know fine well this has now happened to me on at least four occasions recently, and their response has been variable-most commonly to suggest effectively that I deserve it.

In over 25,000 posts I believe I've only complained about two posters, and on both occasions Tontastic essentially told me they were doing nothing wrong. (On both occasions they were of the type I've described.)

Why was that?

I'll leave you lot to decide.

In future cmonaton, I think we may have to take a more united attitude if we see the Ron Number/T Cox syndrome.

Mortonjag has many rivals on this forum, and we frequently 'knock lumps off' each other, but I'll certainly defend any of them against cowardly scummery of the type we've been discussing.
mortonjag 2008-09-19 13:13:38 Mortonjag is as hard as nails in real life. Come to think of it, it IS rather strange that the general perception is of a wimpish old fud! laugh.gif

If half the posters had half a clue about this they'd soon stop abusing the jag on their POUFFE pink keyboards, and scamper beneath their Mummies' skirts whimpering like wounded pups.

Mortonjag reserves the right to remain anonymous but below is a picture of his little brother.
mortonjag 2008-09-19 13:18:53 Many happy returns of the day kiddywinks. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-19 13:27:11
QUOTE(TCox @ Sep 19 2008, 11:22 AM) [snapback]514606[/snapback]
Yes you've got me. I'm jealous.

Thanks mate.


You certainly appear to have some serious psychological problem if you think it's legitimate to fling this kind of stuff at an anonymous poster. Your style is indeed reminiscent of that of Mr 'Number'.

If you're really just honest to goodness Tam Cox, I think Weegie would quite like your address too.

'Marjorie' wants to take up the offer to 'tiffin' you.


What a p u s s y you are. Fancy a nice spot of tiffin Marjorie?

Edited because p u s s y shows up as p***y

mortonjag 2008-09-19 13:35:04
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 19 2008, 01:10 PM) [snapback]514638[/snapback]
Well said MJ. Just be careful or you could be accused of being tarred in this conspiracy against "important" Morton fans wink.gif

Is there a conspiracy Weegie-great-how does one get to join-I don't really care who it's against -it's just that I'd barely know a single poster to speak to so it would be lovely to get into one of the cliques.

I've got money if necessary. biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-19 13:56:55
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 19 2008, 01:40 PM) [snapback]514648[/snapback]
I actually don't mind aliases but they have to have certain level of humour for it to work, the two most recent are neither funny or witty.

There have been some funny 'wind ups' from aliases. TBH I couldn't care less if another poster assumes half a dozen identities provided they add something to the forum.

That's entirely different from the recent examples as you say. They pretend they have an honest agenda-e.g. TC and his catty comments to Weegie were portrayed as objecting to his 'moralistic' attitude, or Ronnie boy claims he is the champion of non pomposity, when in fact their only agenda is unwarranted attack and abuse.

Not cricket, eh chaps!
mortonjag 2008-09-19 14:02:58
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 19 2008, 01:48 PM) [snapback]514655[/snapback]
If Partick Thistle hosted a game of naked table tennis at the moment it'd be bloody televised.
Returning to their status as media darlings following the demise of that southern Scottish team, what were they called again? They had lllamas...

Thistle deserve the attention they are getting IMO. They have come on in leaps and bounds since we f*cked up that year of the play offs, while we've stagnated before going into decline.

The truth is that for the size and potential of the Club, nobody seems to give a f*ck about Morton those days and the Club has only itself to blame.

Hard to take, and it annoys me too VT, but everybody loves a winner!
mortonjag 2008-09-19 14:09:59
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 19 2008, 02:05 PM) [snapback]514666[/snapback]
I can see where you're coming from but they're still mid-table mediocrities in this division.

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..........and what does that make us-bargain basement rejects?
mortonjag 2008-09-19 14:12:33
QUOTE(king_bob @ Sep 19 2008, 02:10 PM) [snapback]514670[/snapback]
thanks mate

Careful your Majesty-Tam Cox will be on your case!
mortonjag 2008-09-19 14:18:11
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 19 2008, 01:59 PM) [snapback]514664[/snapback]
On a scale of 1-10....... I'm about -10.

Never been in a fight in my life, which probabaly explains how I have managed to hang on to my boyish good looks for so long. blush.gif

You look quite winsome, especially those little sky blue shorts!
mortonjag 2008-09-19 14:23:21
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Sep 19 2008, 01:19 PM) [snapback]514644[/snapback]
So that's who Newton is..
Back on subject. The purchase of HBOS at £12billon must be bargain of the century. It was in far better shape than Northern Rock who have received no less than £25billon from the government so far. HBOS property alone must be worth nearly a billon.

This is defo the union trying to wheel Scotland back in.

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QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 19 2008, 01:44 PM) [snapback]514653[/snapback]
Erm I think that's pretty obvious. rolleyes.gif

I don't understand-has one of them been posting his name and address-if he has, I know which one it'll be-he's just completing the reconstruction of his Chateau in France at the moment! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-19 15:41:41
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 19 2008, 03:30 PM) [snapback]514689[/snapback]
You've got a rerr talent MJ laugh.gif

Not at all Spurtle-it was your choon-I just corrected the words for you!

I don't have the slightest problem with folk celebrating being British, OR Scottish for that matter.

What's all the fuss about?

Anyway -just for you!



Hark where the night is falling
hark hear the pipes a calling
Loudly and proudly calling down thru the glen
There where the hills are sleeping
Now feel the blood a leaping
High as the spirits of the old highland men

Towering in gallant fame
Scotland my mountain hame
High may your proud standards gloriously wave
Land of my high endeavor
Land of the shining river
Land of my heart forever, Scotland the Brave

High in the misty mountains
Out by the purple highlands
Brave are the hearts that beat beneath Scottish skies
Wild are the winds to meet you
Staunch are the friends that greet you
Kind as the love that shines from fair maidens eyes
mortonjag 2008-09-19 17:59:40 The Mods said:




Moderation
We moderate the forum on a common sense basis and would ask that each of our visitors obeys simple general good manners when posting on the forum.



Ron Number said:


If the cap fits wear it. Or if the cap fits, USE it - advice I wish your mother had heeded nine months before you were born..........


mortonjag 2008-09-19 18:27:34
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Sep 19 2008, 06:05 PM) [snapback]514782[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-09-19 18:48:13
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Sep 19 2008, 04:35 PM) [snapback]514707[/snapback]
Unwarranted attack? Because I disagree with your viewpoint on certain things and take issue with you on the same terms as YOU use against others?/ Come, now, Mr Pot, that's a bit rich - a case of "Do as I SAY, not as I do"??? One law for MJ's attacks, another law for anyone who criticises him....... mad.gif

Because you adopted an alias with the sole purpose of attacking Mortonjag-as CONFIRMED by one of the Mods.

Any poster who really cares about unbiased Moderation only has to look at your first dozen posts for crystal clear confirmation that that is correct.

Mortonjag NEVER descends to the gutter level of wishing death on another poster or wishing that another poster had never been born (amplified with a sneering Smiley).

You've made unwarranted attacks by the barrowload and Mortonjag has NEVER attacked you. Every single post has been in direct response to one of your pieces of filth.

So don't come the puerile and grossly overused 'pot, kettle' routine with me.

Your behaviour is cowardly and reprehensible. I believe that certain elements within the 'Moderation' team are delighted to see Mortonjag vilified.

I believe that is the only reason you are still posting. I could easily put you in your place by resorting to your scumbag tactics, and would be instantly banned by Tontastic.

Your comment about the 'cap fitting' was bang out of order by any standards. That was reported. Nothing happened.

Why are you being allowed to ride roughshod over the forum rules, and breach common decency, when others have been banned for FAR, FAR less?

I suspect you know the answer Ronnie boy.

If not, maybe your luck just ran out.

Then again, if you are just the innocent poster you claim to be, I challenge you to identify yourself. What harm will that do? You may become the new forum hero!
mortonjag 2008-09-19 18:57:13
QUOTE(Deego @ Sep 19 2008, 06:36 PM) [snapback]514828[/snapback]
Ohh I love it when you moan like that, babes. wub.gif

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Thanks for that darling-you made me laugh.

Do you think the weasel will be unmasked before the Mods finally wake up? wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-19 19:02:01
QUOTE(Ghost @ Sep 19 2008, 06:26 PM) [snapback]514810[/snapback]
It's actually " Alan " wink.gif

Alan/Allan-Anus wouldn't know the difference between that and Casper.
mortonjag 2008-09-19 19:05:52
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 19 2008, 05:04 PM) [snapback]514727[/snapback]
I'm unfamiliar with this acronym. Is it geek speak?



It is no acronym SPARROT-it is an example of onomatopoeia.

Like the sound of a carpet slipper scudding little pink botties.
mortonjag 2008-09-19 19:24:49
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Sep 19 2008, 07:04 PM) [snapback]514855[/snapback]
Eh, people who don't like you tend to persevere with a LOT of mortonjag posts.

You should do the same or ignore him if you don't like him because quite frankly, I don't think anyone else cares.

I'm assuming that that somewhat cryptic post is directed at Mortonjag.


You are pretty near the mark.

I'll tell you one person who DOES care-Weegieton.

Why-because today he was subjected to exactly the type of unwarranted attack by an unidentified poster as Mortonjag's been tolerating for MONTHS.

So a few of us care now GG, and a few of us are on 'weasel alert', and all the poor little offended souls who don't like bad big Mortonjag because they are either too daft to understand him, or just have chipped wee shoulders can attempt to ridicule the legitimacy of my complaint till they soil their nappies, and I won't go away.

I've had two or three pompous slaps on the wrist from Moderator Superior-over what most would have regarded as trivia.

Last night Ron Number went well beyond anything that could be construed as decent.

Decent posters DON'T wish death on others or 'that they had never been born'.

Shimmin Ton got off with the latter also.

I reported the offensive post. Nothing happened.

Folk DON'T tend to care until they are on the receiving end GG.
mortonjag 2008-09-19 19:48:44
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 19 2008, 07:31 PM) [snapback]514871[/snapback]
Somehow that doesn't seem like mortonjag's style... rolleyes.gif

I don't use the huff button Naitch-I've always been able to stand up for myself, and that's EXACTLY why unwarranted personal abuse out of the blue from an anonymous poster who bends the rules and thumbs his nose at the Mods annoys me.

What am I supposed to do? Use his tactics and Tontastic will instantly ban me-GUARANTEED. Let's face it he took great pleasure in banning me for five days for jocularly calling somebody a POUFFE, and it's pretty clear from the few communications we've had-when he could be bothered replying, that he can't stand Mortonjag! laugh.gif

Scumbags like Ronnie Boy (deliberate choice of term) always argue that they are only dishing out what I've already given out. Complete tripe!

I don't expect the ignorant little ephemera who attempt to trivialise the matter to understand-they are in reality only bright enough to be a danger to themselves!

So Naitch-you can join them and have a pop too, or maybe you could consider how you would feel if an anonymous poster wished death on you in all seriousness, and the Mods just stood back apparently scratching their balls.

Weegie got it a wee bit lighter today and he sure knows how it feels too.
mortonjag 2008-09-19 20:07:03
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Sep 19 2008, 07:53 PM) [snapback]514880[/snapback]
Ok, so you've told the mods. If they don't do anything then I'd say it's time to erase the weasels from memory. If the point of this thread is to start a revolt against Ron Number and the Mods though, I'm afraid I'm not in.

Most people should agree that Ron and ShimminTon are cretinous though, if that makes you feel better?

Shimmin Ton is a good guy who made the mistake of joining in the insider anti-Jag nonsense.

Maybe Ron is indeed a misguided soul too. I've invited him to identify himself-maybe he will!

Several other posters have today seriously treated the theme of adopting an Alias with the sole purpose of attacking another/others.

They, like myself, have made it clear that they think it's 'not on'.

I've no intention of 'starting revolts' against anybody-I merely call it as I see it. The abuse I'm currently receiving is a drop in the ocean compared to what I took when I initially called Mr Rae in question, but at least that was abuse from bona fide posters, almost all of whom now agree entirely with my original views.

The point of the thread was to highlight a problem. I've never done it before because I was the sole recipient of that particular form of abuse. Today Weegie was subjected to similar from an apparently different source, and it certainly upset him.

It's about fair play GG, and fair play is supposedly overseen by our Moderators.
mortonjag 2008-09-19 20:18:54
QUOTE(El Duderino @ Sep 19 2008, 08:02 PM) [snapback]514886[/snapback]
"Is there no end to your idiocy, Anus?"

"Indeed Newt-it's chubby little Smegma trying to wind Mortonjag up"

Hmmm, without trying too hard, a quick squiz through just a few of your posts reveals some comments that are personal and abusive.

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That's a PERFECT example of total misunderstanding.

Anus was an affectionate term used in an ongoing joust with my friend whom I previously called Smiffy.

Chubby little Smegma is a not very affectionate term for somebody whom I regard with the same affection as rancid kn*b cheese, but I'd NEVER assume an Alias to attack him, and I certainly wouldn't wish him any physical harm, let alone state that I wished he'd never been born.

Furthermore, as I've repeatedly stated, Mortonjag has NEVER attacked a fellow poster de novo. That is a fact.

I'm away out to buy some rancid kn*b cheese peanuts and a banana for the Monkey's supper.
mortonjag 2008-09-19 20:23:01
QUOTE(Ballboy @ Sep 19 2008, 08:09 PM) [snapback]514889[/snapback]
QUOTE(mortonjag @ Sep 18 2008, 06:57 AM)

Fing is rapidly building up a profile of you 'Speccy'.

26 year old, not very bright, claims to be student, possesses duff matric card-thinks Beermonkey is Mortonjag.

As soon as he's got you for sure you will receive an invitation to Mortonjag's cellar.
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And you don't threaten anyone..........


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mortonjag 2008-09-20 08:59:27
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 19 2008, 09:02 PM) [snapback]514907[/snapback]
Something you do to great effect yourself. Examples have already been given by previous posters.
Is that a fact? No, wait...just your opinion. rolleyes.gif
I would have thought at your age you would have developed a thick skin and took everything on here with a pinch of salt? Clearly not. You can't go running to the mods everytime someone has a go at you.

OK, I went for the monkey's supper, played Scrabble with my partner- a game we astonishingly drew at 341 each, and went to bed early. I had a lovely sleep, which bizarrely was slightly spoiled by the police taking me into custody for murder!

Needless to say I wasn't guilty and I felt pretty powerless, but soon woke up for a piss and problem solved.

I wish it was so easy here. As Weegie agrees, you don't understand until you've been subjected to a Spot Ton, or Ron Number, or in Weegie's case 'Tam Cox'.

Such posters assume an alias with the sole purpose of attacking one target poster.

That, in itself contravenes the forum rules, and THAT IS A FACT.

I hope the Moderators will take appropriate action in future.



mortonjag 2008-09-21 08:35:01
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 20 2008, 11:15 AM) [snapback]515014[/snapback]
There are times when one could think that you are a bit lacking in political correctness! Come the revolution you could be one of the first against the wall!!

Mental Picture laugh.gif laugh.gif

Listen to me, numbers man-political correctness is only correct if Mortonjag decides it's correct.

Any more of your cheek and your large wrinkled pink botty may be in jeopardy. sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-21 08:45:37
QUOTE(Savo @ Sep 20 2008, 09:29 PM) [snapback]515323[/snapback]
Couldn't see him in the directors' box, I don't think he was there today.

Oh dear, I hope he hasn't given up in despair already.

Anyway he's always got Ibrox today. He didn't make all those Millions by throwing his money away.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 08:57:35 ....as I was saying before you interrupted me, I was utterly and absolutely thrilled by those stimulating final minutes at Firhill yesterday-which are a sure sign that we are on the up and up- when only bad luck, two outstandingly superb and out of this world blocks by the Jags goalkeeper, the pigeon flying across Iain's line of vision causing him to pull the shot past the post when he'd otherwise have certainly scored a goal to match his first which I'm sure you'll all agree was fit to win any goal of the season competition, and the referee blowing his whistle when I had computed that, allowing for injuries and substitutions, we still had at least three minutes to play, prevented us from gaining a point we thoroughly deserved, and indeed, the opinion of a couple of lifelong and loyal Ton fans with whom I was conversing on the way back to my Mercedes Benz car was that we had veritably done more than enough in those last few scintillating moments to win the game.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 09:11:45
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 20 2008, 10:50 PM) [snapback]515362[/snapback]
our support has went from one of the noisiest in the leagues to the quietest in a few seasons. I think the team would benefit from the fans getting behind the team for 90 mins but I can also understand why they get frustrated and disillusioned

Rae!

QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 21 2008, 05:05 AM) [snapback]515446[/snapback]
People are paying in excess of £20 at least every away game to watch the most boring unimaginative performances from our teek week after week, its no f***ing wonder they don't feel like singing. Our fans go to games now out of a sense of loyalty and almost feeling like they have too, and not to get any enjoyment, and if you're not enjoying yourself then you're hardly going to sing.

Don't come on here and moan about it-e-mail the club, or better still do something yourself-BAWBAG! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-21 09:21:36
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 21 2008, 09:10 AM) [snapback]515460[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

Aw, come on.

Mr Donald is just feigning less interest in the Ton.

Why ?

He knows that DDFR is now on the back foot.

7 matches - 3 points.

Whatever Mr Donald offered a few months ago, he won't offer again in a hurry.

Now there are 3 FACTS that reduce DDFR negotiating position:

The credit crunch and recession are worsening.
The crowds at Cappielow are declining.
The probability of relegation has skyrocketed.

Has DDFR over played his hand ?

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Mr Newton, I couldn't help noticing the remarks you have made and I hope you won't mind if I jump in with some comments which I'm going to do anyway to the effect that Golden Casket will benefit hugely from the credit crunch as more and more people have their three piece suites and cars repossessed and increase their comfort eating, while the crowds at Cappielow have in no manner or fashion or indeed shape diminished in real terms, as my loyal and worthy accounting people would tell you, and talking of skyrockets, wasn't it so exciting and thrilling when the parachutists descended to celebrate our momentous achievement in getting to the first division, a place from where I thoroughly assure you we only intend to move upwards.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 09:25:30
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 21 2008, 09:19 AM) [snapback]515465[/snapback]
MJ, did you see a Rae of light yesterday ?

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It was the loveliest Saturday afternoon for many weeks Newt. Similar indeed to that of 26th April. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-21 09:31:36
QUOTE(Savo @ Sep 20 2008, 09:25 PM) [snapback]515319[/snapback]
Surprised at some of the reactions to the performance here. I thought we were mediocre at best.

At the back, the way we lost both goals was very poor. For Thistle's first, Roberts should never be able to drift away inside the box & find as much space as he did. He then had time to dink the ball over to the back post and it's a simple header home. Not good enough.

The second goal starts with a really poor shanked clearance out the park under no pressure. The throw is badly defended, Dom (excellent throughout) had to get his head in the way of a shot, it goes out for a corner, and we fail to defend that too. A catalogue of avoidable errors.

I also think it's sad that everyone got so excited by the award of a free kick just as Masterton was waiting to come on. Is that all we have got to offer in a creative sense now? sad.gif

We've become a horrible side to watch. We sit in, we throw long balls up to an isolated attack, we are unbelievably one-paced, we lack leadership, we don't have any real craft or invention and, basically, we look a bad lot who thoroughly deserve to be bottom of the league.

It cannot go on like this.

Incidentally, seeing as this is the post-match thread, did anyone else see Crawford Rae still sitting in his seat for ages after the game had ended? He looked very down. Everyone else had long since left the directors' box and he sat there alone, staring into space.

Maybe AD HAS pulled out.

If so Sugar Daddy has finally pulled the plug on us with his 'excellent managers'.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 09:34:26
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 21 2008, 09:28 AM) [snapback]515469[/snapback]
Golden Casket will benefit hugely from the credit crunch
Do Fry in the UK still sell Crunchies ?

Would the Credit Crunchy sell well ?

Dark chocolate and/or milk chocolate ?

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a place from where I thoroughly assure you we only intend to move upwards.

The best of intentions may go astray ... just like shots on goal.

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I ask the questions here Mr Newton.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 09:48:31
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 21 2008, 09:14 AM) [snapback]515462[/snapback]
Gidday mortonjag,

How does the last chapter of the biography finish please ?

Please give it a happy ending.

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If only I could-

I had an horrific dream last night. An old gentleman with silvery grey hair, and gleaming white dentures, was lovingly feeding sugar lumps to his pet donkey (Dave) when he was bitten fiercely on the bottom by a rabid Dalmation.

Prompt intervention was hampered when the only 'on the spot' First Aider's 999 call was interrupted by onlookers shouting 'Dae sumpin ya Muppet', causing him to dial the Ron Number and be told somebody wished he'd never been born.

That's when the dream ended Newt.

mortonjag 2008-09-21 09:57:18
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 21 2008, 09:42 AM) [snapback]515474[/snapback]
NEVER ask a question unless you know the answer.

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Correct Mr Newall Newton, and never tell a lie unless you know the truth.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 10:00:15
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 21 2008, 09:32 AM) [snapback]515471[/snapback]
I thought the Ton won on 26 April.

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Indeed they did and everybody felt jolly and was singing 'There's only one Davie Irons', and Mortonjag was wished a slow and painful death for suggesting that Mr Rae had a cheek to join the celebrations! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-21 10:05:33
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Sep 20 2008, 05:25 PM) [snapback]515191[/snapback]
well here we are in the cold light of day after yet another defeat all be it away to Partick, we have played relegation tipped clyde and airdrie, a draw and a heavy defeat respectively, we only have ross county who were other relegation tipped side to play. Next week is a must win, a draw will be unacceptable. I was not there today but listened to the webcast and it would appear that the defense is back to its old frailties. what does the gaffer have to do to put it right as it would seem that some of the players aint up to the task.

does the manager be strong and start dropping non performers and blood some of the younger guys or is he going to continue with the same sub standard performances that we have seen on the park. the midfield is woeful and the strikers aint scoring. I fear for us on Tuesday I really do and I cant see the fans really getting up for this one.

I hope that there is improvement but it will need to be massive ro get the fans back on side, I think Irons is a good manager being let down by a group of sub standard players who have not turned up in the league. maybe they are big time charlies........................................MORTON FOR THE CUP.


I think an unbalanced squad of pretty good players is being let down by an inexperienced Manager.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 10:11:53
QUOTE(Ghost @ Sep 21 2008, 02:23 AM) [snapback]515409[/snapback]
No matter what yer tactics are, yer 4-5-1 stating that we are not leakinbg goals, GERFUY. The team is rank, pish.

We " the fans will just have to get used to it, we are not conceding goals "

Dont make me laugh.

Away and take a f***ing hike

Dear Mr Ghost,

I am fairly certain that you and your fellow fans are well aware that I wished to retain the services of that impeccably excellent Manager Jim McInally, whose comparable record to date this season proves beyond the remotest shadow of doubt in this results driven business that I, as ever, was correct.

Your Aye

Douglas.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 10:14:39
QUOTE(Capuan @ Sep 21 2008, 10:12 AM) [snapback]515489[/snapback]
The only way that a change of chairman is gonna make ANY difference is if he's a Brooks Mileson-esque sugar daddy who will plow in countless millions. As mentioned before Mr Rae has put a lot of money into the club over the last year by the signings of former SPL players which, all things being even SHOULD be performing a lot better for the club than they are currently doing. Several of which are amoung the top earners in the division.

Compare that team yesterday to the team that won 3-0 at the end of last season. The only 2 outfield changes are Smith and Shimmin (ironically the 2 players which, as suggested elsewhere in this thread, have made an improvement to our team.) The apparent difference here seems to be complete lack of motivation by several players on the field. This is the most immediate problem at Cappielow, not the chairman.

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Really!
mortonjag 2008-09-21 10:17:05
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Sep 21 2008, 08:01 AM) [snapback]515448[/snapback]
It's hard to imagine that we could have uncovered a poorer manager than McInally but I'm beginning to believe that it the case. I wasn't happy when Irons was appointed because I saw no evidence that he had what it takes. There were plenty of stories about him being the real driving force behind Alexander but Gretna's stumble to the SPL when he took over and their performances in it (albeit in difficult circumstances) didn't give me any confidence.

The last 2 game heroics from last season earned the guy some respect but the fact is his overall record in charge is worse than McInally's, his signings with few exceptions have been poor or bizarre, his tactics are woeful and guaranteed to empty Scappa and for all his animated running about like a headless chicken he doesn't seem to be able to organise or motivate effectively. The handling of the budget whatever it was appalling, although some may blame Rae for being stingy with the cash, however as usual teams with far less to spend than us are making us look like amateur mugs.

No doubt I'll be accused by some of pressing the panic button but this is nothing to do with panic as much of this was fairly predictable. Sadly the only one who can do something positive is the guy with the worst record of signing managers in the history of Morton.

....and that IS where the buck stops.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 10:22:07
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 21 2008, 10:17 AM) [snapback]515493[/snapback]
Why in the pre-match warm up did DDF shout DI over, taking him away from his duties of getting the team ready?

Must have been some relevant information because surely he wasn't talking tactics unsure.gif I thought the days of interference of the coaching side was over.

Don't you believe it Barbie-the old fud still can't keep his big neb out of anything.

Prior to our last away game at Dundee he strode half way round the pitch in front of his adoring fans and engaged DI in avid conversation for fully fifteen minutes leaving DC and DW to get on with the warm up and briefings.

If one solitary fan can justify that-let's hear it!
mortonjag 2008-09-21 10:24:54
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 21 2008, 10:05 AM) [snapback]515485[/snapback]
If you don't want to tell a lie, just ignore THE letter.

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mortonjag 2008-09-21 10:31:32
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 21 2008, 10:03 AM) [snapback]515483[/snapback]
nearly 5 months, and yer hanging in.

is it feeling more slow and painful than watching the Ton ???

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His wish didn't come true. Mortonjag is arguably in much better condition than the Ton.

Mortonjag has an excellent manager who knows exactly how much control to exercise for best performance! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-21 10:46:16 When all else fails-blame the players!!!

Yesterday was not NEARLY as bad as everybody seems to think, and it's absolutely facile IMHO to suggest that the players weren't trying hard enough.

I think we should bin Jimbo and Superkev because they are absolutely crap wingers, and we desperately need wingers, but those boys are still doing their very best.

Mr Irons has had a very good reception from a very patient fan base, but the truth is gradually dawning on me- a truth I DIDN'T want to believe-he's tactically VERY naive.

If anybody had said to any of you before the season started that in late September four of the subs would be Jenkins, McManus, Weatherson, and Masterton, you'd probably have imagined we must be topping the league.

Yesterday's delaying the inevitable substitutions till it was beyond redemption was TOTALLY INEXPLICABLE to me.

The defence was playing solidly enough-two daft goals-aye-but other than that Cuthbert had little to do.

Up front we had Wakey working his baws of as usual with Russell, and then we had the rest, and the rest was f*ckin' mince yesterday, and I'm sure the boys themselves would agree, so what did DI do?

Waited till we've got a bare ten or so minutes left before chucking on three of them and the difference was immediate. Composure took over from chaos, we started really hurting the Jags, and we COULD have got a draw- a draw that the Jags fan who sat with us said we 'ultimately deserved'.

So don't confuse bad form, or damned good opponents with 'not showing a leg'.

Just a wee thought-did Rae tell DI to keep half a mind on Tuesday? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-21 10:59:23
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 21 2008, 10:48 AM) [snapback]515507[/snapback]
"It already looks a bit desperate for us. The players understand they are letting the team and the fans down."
We don't want their understanding ... we need their CHANGE !!!
... for the better.

If that's a quote from DI he can go take a flying f*ck to himself.

Man managent par excellence! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-21 11:03:16 I heard a wee whisper that Mr Rae won't be there to answer any questions. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-21 11:08:46
QUOTE(wanderton @ Sep 20 2008, 10:06 PM) [snapback]515340[/snapback]
spot on

R.I.P?

QUOTE(gmsc-doco-1874 @ Sep 21 2008, 01:30 AM) [snapback]515394[/snapback]
alex williams to be back at cappielow by january biggrin.gif

and MJ to put in an offer to buy out Dougie and Co... laugh.gif

The way things are going sonny boy, that's looking financially quite possible! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-21 11:50:51
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Sep 21 2008, 11:18 AM) [snapback]515517[/snapback]
http://www.sundaymail.co.uk/sport-news/sco...78057-20746464/

there ye go mj i know you dont read these rags but here it is for yourself. fantastic bit of blame mongering.

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I do read it-just hadn't until now!

And a rag indeed-have a look at the player ratings if you want a real laugh. The comparison which really amuses me is McAlister 7: Smith 6.

I'm losing respect for Mr Irons. Played 7 scored 2 can't JUST be because the boys ain't trying.

Mind you he's got the best worst defence in the league too.

'Building the squad from the spine first' indeed, and umpteen daft fans bought that hook line and sinker.

His
squad selection is the real problem-that and the fact that he lost Jon Newby who COULD at least drift left and double as a winger-possibly through abysmal man management.

He's beginning to come over as a big cry baby-blaming others for the broken toy he bought!
mortonjag 2008-09-21 11:59:58
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 21 2008, 11:28 AM) [snapback]515521[/snapback]
You should put your cards on the table (and say what you really want to instead of p***y footing about it), you were never happy with the appointment of Irons, you are not prepared to give him a chance even though he saved us from certain 2nd division football this season where I've no doubt in my mind any other appointment would not have pulled off the great escape. You sound to me as if you (as well as few others on here) would be dancing for joy if he was to be sacked tomorrow, again in my opinion there is to many on here who have strong opinions (which is never a bad thing) but are so frightened of being proved wrong they would rather see failure than success.

Yes Davie was my preferred choice, he successfully kept us in this division against the odds last season, but I will pass judgement on him come the end of the season, if we finish 8th.9th or 10th then he has failed (in my opinion) but FFS give him a chance.

Jim-that is exactly the way the fans reacted to criticism of JM in the early days.

I still have hopes of Davie Irons, but in no way am I going to spare him criticism if I see it's due, and at the moment he's making a complete C*NT of it.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 12:16:43
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Sep 21 2008, 11:55 AM) [snapback]515530[/snapback]
I'm sure doctor jag can pass on his long distance diagnosis to jim and he can relay it by carrier pigeon, I't will be quicker and more accurate than if we had Quincey in the shed. rolleyes.gif

I'm sure YOU must understand that! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-21 12:20:16
QUOTE(Andy M @ Sep 20 2008, 09:38 PM) [snapback]515326[/snapback]
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I can't comment on the price, but for anybody who's looking for something in that range, it's a bloody good motor and well worth a look IMO.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 12:23:12 Everybody's heard of Kerry Packer, but few have heard of his wife Fanny.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 12:28:09
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 19 2008, 05:13 PM) [snapback]514735[/snapback]
Wouldn't say I was a hard man by any means, but I did box as a teenager. I broke my hand/wrist/finger ironically in a street fight. My short career came to an end although I continued with the boxing club for a few years sparring etc.
My mates did reasonably well, one was a Scottish champion, and my other mate won a Silver at the Commonwealth Games.

Aye right Spurtle-and Mr Auld paid you handsomely for your troubles with an odd 'special' flung in on pay day.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 12:43:36 Given that Shaggy is reffing our match on Tuesday, I'm sure we all wish him simply the best.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 12:51:27
QUOTE(cmonaton @ Sep 21 2008, 12:13 PM) [snapback]515533[/snapback]
then half this forum would be banned from Cappielow !!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Don't be daft-they'd all be welcomed with open arms. It's quite understandable that they resent somebody whose impeccable standards are something of which they can only dream. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-21 13:03:22
QUOTE(capitanus @ Sep 21 2008, 12:16 AM) [snapback]515378[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Get it right up ye Alibi.

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I have to say that for once I whole heartedly agree with Alibi's assessment of a truly despicable practice.

HAHA
mortonjag 2008-09-21 13:09:12
B



Many happy returns from the Monkey, Fing, and Jag!
mortonjag 2008-09-21 13:11:56 I'm not really into gigs and stuff, though I've heard Peter Weatherson's band is good.

See this Morrison bloke-is he a relative of Andy M?
mortonjag 2008-09-21 13:20:00
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 21 2008, 01:11 PM) [snapback]515562[/snapback]
It' what they get up to in one church.

The hands are something else.

Anyone else think about Kenny Everett's "Brother Lee Love" when they saw that clip. happy.gif

Brother Lee Love

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Incidentally Dr Bam, this innocent wee soul is a product of a Baptist Church upbringing-the religious side of which I rejected from the age of about fourteen, and I can state categorically that Mr McCurry knew EXACTLY what he was doing, and what would be taken from it.

It looks like one of his faithful flock has been-shall we say- a little unfaithful.

Either that or Shaggy should be vetting all his prospective adherents after his recent exploits!!!

Journalists can have extremely un Christ like attributes!
mortonjag 2008-09-21 13:28:44
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 21 2008, 01:17 PM) [snapback]515565[/snapback]
I still don't know why we need a chairman to invest money into ourselves year after year anyway - its clear to me that the cash is being squandered unnecessarily and/or being diverted fom where it needs to be. Develop the WDE is good, but the level of playing staff can't be said to be better than the likes of Airdrie who have fewer resources (although have a lucrative sponsorship deal for this season). While welcoming investment we should also be striving to be self-sufficient. If Mr Rae can do this then he has delivered long-term stability to Morton that can only be regarded as success.

I agree with the drift of your post but I'm not clear what it is you want him to do.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 13:35:23
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 21 2008, 01:10 PM) [snapback]515558[/snapback]
Morton could play 5-5-5 at the moment and still lose a bloody game.
There's a general malaise from boardroom downwards IMO - how many players perform well against us and don't perform when they arrive here?
I fail to see how the midfield cannot function in a 4/5 man system. We have played 3-4-3, 3-5-2, 4-4-2 and 4-5-1 this season - the move towards the latter was Irons only option to try and stem the flow of goals.
As much as I'm concerned about the manangement side its time the players stood up and took their sizeable share of responsibility - few earned pass marks yesterday and more than a few appeared to hide when the going got tough in the midfield.
Too often at Morton we appear to have tarred and burned the manager (most often rightly) yet failed to get rid of the players culpable too.

Then why were they not subbed? We had decent subs on the bench. They were left doing SFA until it was obviously a lost cause and STILL almost contrived to snatch a draw for us. As another poster said, the players obey instructions or get 'hooked'. I don't think anybody was 'hiding' yesterday-just crap.

Blame lies entirely at DI's feet IMO.

QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 21 2008, 01:17 PM) [snapback]515566[/snapback]
I'm not denying he has and is making mistakes, my point is that there is some who no matter what, will never give him a fair crack at the whip, like I said they would prefer failure so they could get satisfaction out of saying I told you so.

Jim, are you honestly suggesting that certain posters want the Ton to lose matches?
mortonjag 2008-09-21 13:39:58
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 21 2008, 01:34 PM) [snapback]515579[/snapback]
Make Morton self-sufficient. The sentence immediately before the highlighted one.

If I understand 'self sufficiency', you mean profitable.

How do you propose he set about that, starting right now?
mortonjag 2008-09-21 13:42:51
QUOTE(gmsc-doco-1874 @ Sep 21 2008, 01:33 PM) [snapback]515578[/snapback]
do we have to bring a friend rolleyes.gif

The only thing you'll 'have' to do after the Monkey takes charge is make sure you get to Cappielow nice and early! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-21 13:50:01
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 20 2008, 11:37 AM) [snapback]515035[/snapback]
Up until a few years ago I used to play 5s twice a week which helped keep me reasonably fit. But when I stopped due to a dodgy knee the weight piled on. Not overnight, but gradually over a period of 3-4 of years.

So just over a year ago I started walking a lot for exercise. It doesn't sound much, but in fact it's great exercise. I know it's a bit sad, but I've actually kept a record of how far I've walked for exercise since I started and just yesterday I clocked up my 1000th km. Also now I do lots of little things like at work not taking the lift and using the stairs. I've also drastically reduced my swally intake which has also helped.

Since starting I've lost 6kg but more importantly I feel much fitter and healthier, and things that used to make me breathless a while ago are now a piece of piss.

A sensible diet and brisk walking is the ideal combination, and one that can be pursued throughout ones life.

QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 20 2008, 11:43 AM) [snapback]515040[/snapback]
Up being the optimum word. Height-weight ratios are where it's at, and for the matter, you're incorrect.

Height weight ratios are notoriously inaccurate as an assessment of obesity.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 13:58:16
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Sep 21 2008, 01:47 PM) [snapback]515588[/snapback]
I don't think that would necessarily mean profitable, just not operating at a loss as we currently are - and as we currently are we could not continue at that loss without Rae.

Which begs the question-is that perhaps the way he wants it?
mortonjag 2008-09-21 14:00:19
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 21 2008, 01:49 PM) [snapback]515589[/snapback]
What I'm saying is some posters would prefer to be proved right to inflate their own ego even if that means losing games rather than having to admit they were wrong, so I suppose Yes that's what I'm saying.

I find it hard to get my head round that Jim.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 14:03:59
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 21 2008, 01:56 PM) [snapback]515592[/snapback]
My old man once said a doctor said to him "the best way of telling you are overweight is looking at the mirror and deciding".

....doesn't work if you are anorexic I guess!

Did your old man suffer from anorexia?
mortonjag 2008-09-21 14:07:09
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 21 2008, 02:03 PM) [snapback]515598[/snapback]
I'm not talking about guys who are going to every game or almost every game, there are plenty on here who use to go everywhere but now pick and chose, there are people within that bracket that don't particularly give a toss no more and when we lose it just massages there 'I told you so' ego.

I don't think I'd describe people like those as Morton fans.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 14:16:34 I know it's a complex issue, but the current unrest seems to throw up those three contenders for the title of main culprit-The Chairman, the Manager, and the Squad.

I am in absolutely no doubt that blame lies fairly and squarely with the man who holds total control of the Club.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 14:28:30
QUOTE(gmsc-doco-1874 @ Sep 21 2008, 02:06 PM) [snapback]515601[/snapback]
i thought he made a massive impact last season
after all he came in and replaced McLaughlin and you could see the difference immediately.

still the past is the past and at this moment in time he is bloody shockin

Big Erik seems to be going through something of a confidence crisis at the moment. He is FAR from 'crap', and was a huge influence in the latter games of last season.

He's never going to be a play maker or particularly creative-he SHOULD have at least one colleague who can fulfil that role, but the current midfield ALL want rid of the ball.

He's a victim of an extremely unbalanced and poorly selected squad, and he certainly shouldn't have to carry the can for that.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 15:07:11
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Sep 21 2008, 02:46 PM) [snapback]515614[/snapback]
Fine.

Davie was not my preferred choice - nor was Collins, but we are stuck with them for the moment.
HE did not save us from relegation - getting rid of McInally did. The team got a much needed boot up the arse and avoided relegation on goals scored.

I would not be "dancing with joy" if he was sacked - I have no desire to see anyone lose their job regardless of what it is, unless convicted of criminal activities. I want him to get us playing some bloody football and chuck the farting about with the formations crap.

This is our worst start to a league season since before 3 points for a win was introduced - even in relegation seasons we had more points than this on the board, usually relying on Partick or Brechin to give us a rare win. By comparison, it is actually worse than anything we ever did under McGraw.

Sorry, I'm ranting a bit.
Everything is fine and we are in no danger, of course. mellow.gif

Fair play.

Are you one of those who currently want Morton to lose in order that you can 'massage your ego'-as another poster has described them?
mortonjag 2008-09-21 15:09:57
QUOTE(standman @ Sep 21 2008, 02:46 PM) [snapback]515615[/snapback]
Savo hits the nail on the head when he mentions how one paced we are.

Which makes it even more unbelievable that we replaced Finlayson with Weatherson
.

McGuffie can't go up the gears and big Eric is slow in pace and thought.

In such a crucial area you can't afford to play both of these guys together in my opinion.

Finlayson was effectively invisible yesterday. I'd happily have replaced him with Puggsy.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 15:15:40
QUOTE(Toby @ Sep 21 2008, 02:47 PM) [snapback]515616[/snapback]
The role of the support's a very interesting point.

I've definitely become more cynical in the Rae years, possibly just because my desperation for the club to survive made me support them regardless of how poor they were in the Scott/administration days.

However, the one significant day that springs to mind for me was 10th March 2007. A 3-0 win at Alloa on the way to the 2nd Division title. I was standing next to Savo at the time and he pointed out to me the body language of the players after the goals and when leaving the park at full time. There was quite clearly a "them and us" mentality between the players and fans and I'd suggest it's grown ever since.

Incidents such as Weatherson cupping his ear after scoring against Gretna at Palmerston, Weatherson "saluting" the fans after being substituted at Airdrie the other week (anyone notice the common denominator here?) only exemplify this point.

The breakdown in the relationship can probably be tracked back to the betting scandal of 2004, and Jim McInally commented before we played Motherwell in the cup in 2007 that there's always been an element of mistrust between the club and the fans. One of the few things he was right about!

One solution is to try and rid the club of any reminders of 2004. As Largston's suggested in the past, rid the club of it's one remaining bad apple from that time, Peter Weatherson. Gerry infact refuses to go back to Cappielow now until he's gone, such is his fury with the carry on after getting substituted at Airdrie.

My main gripes however are clearly with the running of the club. I find it difficult to give my undying support to them when I can't abide the Raes, Donaldsons, Gregorys, Cowdens etc. of this world.

Rae's comparisons between us and the Celtic fans still rankle with me, as does his refusal to retract them, Crawford calling this board a "rag", when all it is is an opinion forum for the lifeblood of the club being another thing.

Let's look at it this way, when things were rosy, we were always getting the "From The Office Of the Chairman" threads. Now, with the growing sense of apathy in the last few years, we've not heard a thing for fear of criticism.

Even the wonderful Q & A sessions are timed to perfection and he only answers the questions that he wants to answer. The last one was just after ther appointment of the new management team when we were encouraged to look to the future and forget what's gone on before as it can't be changed, regardless of how relevant questions might have been. Would he hold one now when everyone's absolutely raging? No, turkeys don't vote for Christmas.

As GG says, he didn't feel like shouting and singing yesterday. I never feel like it these days, and it's little wonder.

But we can't start a TTGR campaign, because the old fud's got us all by the short and curlies?
mortonjag 2008-09-21 15:18:12 I thought I just had one deleted but it was in fact merged without any indication, and disappeared from my 'topics'!

Edinton's not around!


BRYAN


Guilty or not guilty? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-21 15:29:09
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Sep 21 2008, 03:09 PM) [snapback]515626[/snapback]
Nope - I have never wanted to see Morton lose.

I'll wager a fair few of the McInally haters did though.

Did anybody actually 'hate' him. I ended up feeling a bit sorry for him TBH, though I was delighted when he chucked it.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 15:30:45
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 21 2008, 03:17 PM) [snapback]515636[/snapback]
I'll get off the bench next week smile.gif

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I want you on on Tuesday ya coward.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 15:35:12 Well?
mortonjag 2008-09-21 15:39:05
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Sep 21 2008, 03:37 PM) [snapback]515654[/snapback]
you

Even with the monkey mask on you've spotted the true culprit.

WELL DONE THAT MAN!

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mortonjag 2008-09-21 15:41:01
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 21 2008, 03:27 PM) [snapback]515647[/snapback]
C'mon tae f***, obviously someone was fast enough to weild the axe, answer the bloody queries. mad.gif

Maybe they're too shy!
mortonjag 2008-09-21 15:43:57
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 21 2008, 03:23 PM) [snapback]515643[/snapback]
Aye it was stupid, it's not a hanging offence though.

Not unless we fail to win come Tuesday!
mortonjag 2008-09-21 15:48:48
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 21 2008, 03:43 PM) [snapback]515658[/snapback]
Under who's authority where these threads deleted, was it the mods, or are they pandering to outside influences?

I've often wondered about that possibility too.

At the end of the day they can do that if they please, but it wouldn't exactly endear them to the forum users I'd guess.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 15:52:27
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 21 2008, 03:47 PM) [snapback]515660[/snapback]
The Mods unsure.gif

HMM-do you think they've had a message from crisis talks at Cappielow?
mortonjag 2008-09-21 16:10:18
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 21 2008, 04:05 PM) [snapback]515666[/snapback]
As I said in another thread, the buck stops with the head of the organisation. In our case the Chairman.

But for performances on the park Irons has to take part of the blame. The players are under-performing so they must accept part of the blame too.
Right now it is a mess. How long can it go on is probably what the big question that needs to be asked

...who can continue to do exactly as he pleases and like Nero continue to fiddle while Rome burns?
mortonjag 2008-09-21 16:20:12 Pomposity, dismissiveness, and self opinionation are surely the sole realm of the Jagmeister.

Do we have a young buck sharpening his horns on the nearest tree?

I give you:

Dry your eyes. The multiple threads with the same theme were merged, none were deleted.!


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mortonjag 2008-09-21 16:24:13
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Sep 21 2008, 04:21 PM) [snapback]515672[/snapback]
Wake looks very lazy to me. Recently anyway.

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Works his bloody baws off in every game until the fans expect EVEN more.

Some poor c*nts just can't win it seems. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-21 16:27:40
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Sep 21 2008, 04:25 PM) [snapback]515678[/snapback]
He's not doing very much. The ball gets humped up to him and inevitably he takes a bad touch and either falls over or runs into someone and passes it back for it to punted up to him again. He was very unproductive and not enough of a nuisance to Thistle defence yesterday.

You accused him of 'laziness'.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 16:30:07
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Sep 21 2008, 04:27 PM) [snapback]515681[/snapback]
correct action by the mods, too many threads on the same subject, so dry your eyes

I didn't question the action! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-21 16:32:37
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 21 2008, 04:08 PM) [snapback]515668[/snapback]
Berti Auld ?

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Don't be silly Spurtle!
mortonjag 2008-09-21 16:36:05
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Sep 21 2008, 04:28 PM) [snapback]515682[/snapback]
Yes because he seems to think he is now a hero who doesn't have to as muchwork anymore - and he isn't.

Really-were you chatting to him recently?
mortonjag 2008-09-21 16:45:05
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Sep 21 2008, 04:33 PM) [snapback]515686[/snapback]
glad to see you have got the point eventually, he owns the club he can do whatever he likes with it, whether the fans, players, management, companies house etc.. feel he is getting things wrong its still his club.

I know bigdoc-it just came to me in a flash of inspiration this afternoon when Barbie was asking if the Mods could have been 'got at'! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-21 16:49:12
QUOTE(Mags @ Sep 21 2008, 04:40 PM) [snapback]515691[/snapback]
That's bollocks !!
I was....and the guy's the total opposite from how GG describes him.
Mags.

I'm unsurprised. The big man's work ethic is an example to everybody. I understand the fans getting frustrated right now-I can even understand some players feeling 'abused' by the system, and maybe their hearts not being in it as much as they could be, but if fingers have to be pointed, I'd like to see them pointed correctly.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 16:52:49
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 21 2008, 04:49 PM) [snapback]515694[/snapback]
...wait are people moaning about the guys who run this for free?

....well heaven to betsy!

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and I'm only allowed eight!
mortonjag 2008-09-21 17:02:59
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 21 2008, 04:54 PM) [snapback]515699[/snapback]
Do not discount the power of the Supporters' Trust.

And the other minority shareholders.

It is NOT Sugar Rae's club.

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75.1% is not 100%

....but he can still do exactly as he pleases to whomsoever he please, whenever he please! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-21 17:09:23 Just wondered? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-21 17:11:51
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Sep 21 2008, 05:02 PM) [snapback]515702[/snapback]
Wake doesn't chase very much. If it comes within reach of his foot he might stretch for it a wee bit but other than that, I've been very disappointed with his effort the last couple of weeks.

Edit: effort that guys like Weatherson and Masterton don't get away with!

Could it be that you are confusing your assessment of his effort with his effort?
mortonjag 2008-09-21 17:14:12
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 21 2008, 05:12 PM) [snapback]515710[/snapback]
... could be a close call.

It's not exactly threatening to the status quo!
mortonjag 2008-09-21 17:17:35
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 21 2008, 05:07 PM) [snapback]515706[/snapback]
OK, MJ, forget the Trust's 10 pound scheme.

If things don't improve ASAP, how many supporters will invest 150 pounds to attend the AGM in December ?

How many would it take to achieve critical mass ?

And, MJ, as I am sure you realise, these are serious questions, mate.

Just as has been every question I've asked of the establishment in the last three years Newt!

Supposing we achieved the 'critical mass'-what then?
mortonjag 2008-09-21 17:20:56
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 21 2008, 05:16 PM) [snapback]515715[/snapback]
Not heard that expression in years! biggrin.gif
Correct decision to merge the threads in this case. Nothing was deleted, nothing is being hidden. The conspiracy theorists can give it a rest on this one.

WHY? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-21 17:30:28
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 21 2008, 05:22 PM) [snapback]515719[/snapback]
Sorry, MJ, I don't have a copy of the memorandum and articles of association of Morton Football Club Limited at my finger tips.

However, how many unhappy minority shareholders would it take to change the Cappielow light bulb ?

50 ?

100 ?

200 ?

I'm afraid I don't fully understand the process. Do you mean that the Chairman could be forced to resign even if he still had the majority share in the club. Is that how the Trust works?
mortonjag 2008-09-21 17:37:34
QUOTE(mortonjag @ Sep 21 2008, 05:20 PM) [snapback]515718[/snapback]
WHY? ph34r.gif

I was expecting one of your snap responses. I'll tell you what I think. Several posters starting several individual threads was a very strong demonstration of feeling---------of anti establishment feeling.

One of the establishment saw fit to muffle that very vocal protest by 'appropriately' merging the threads.

I don't see that as dictatorship-more as self protection, and I suppose I can't blame folk for putting their own selfish interests before the common good. It's only human nature.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 17:40:06
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 21 2008, 05:17 PM) [snapback]515716[/snapback]
What happens when MJ has 75.1% of the posts ?

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He gets a gold medal from Tontastic?
mortonjag 2008-09-21 18:13:12
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Sep 21 2008, 05:59 PM) [snapback]515726[/snapback]
It's that his workrate has dropped over the past couple of league games and I'm unhappy about that. I'm not suggesting that he is one of the worst performers or one of the reasons why we're not doing very well but I do believe he is not as much of a threat as he should be at the moment because he isn't giving his all. I expect every player to give it 100%.

It's a pretty damning accusation GG!
mortonjag 2008-09-21 18:24:54
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Sep 21 2008, 06:05 PM) [snapback]515729[/snapback]
When I see 6+ page threads I usually can't be bothered trawling through them, but this one is actually quite interesting.

Someone said "we all wanted Irons" or such like - this is complete baws. A few, myself included, were not happy with his appointment, but our faith in him was boosted by us staying up. It appears that really, it was getting rid of McInally that kept us up.
Irons cannot find a consistent approach - this was even evident last season in lesser matters when we did a funny "half-time warm up" thingy then dropped it for reasons unexplained. In the plus column, he CAN call substitutions correctly when previous managers like McInally and McGraw were utterly clueless in that department. Subs rarely have a massive effect on an overall season, however.

As I said on another thread, this is our worst start to a season since 3 points for a win was introduced. In our many relegation seasons we had more than 3 points at this stage. sad.gif

I'd strongly dispute that with reference to yesterday's game.

I was relieved when JM walked. I hoped we'd sign an experienced manager, but doubted if Rae would like the idea of that. I wasn't unhappy when DI/DC arrived, especially when the stories started coming through about a vast improvement in training and coaching and the 'players being delighted'.

Having said that, I'm a great believer in examining evidence, and the evidence available to date suggests that he has made a poor job of building his 'small quality squad' because it's been built on an inflexible game plan which has so far failed.

My hope is that come the January window enough money is made available to rectify mistakes, if indeed there is acknowledgement that mistakes have been made. I don't fear relegation-not yet!

I've also been bitterly disappointed by what has ultimately looked like very bad man-management, with players being forced to accept the blame for managerial inexperience.

If, as some are suggesting, the squad is not fully pulling its weight, the buck still stops at the manager's door.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 18:57:20
QUOTE(marxist_ton @ Sep 21 2008, 06:31 PM) [snapback]515735[/snapback]
Nero didnt fiddle while rome burned aaaactually. There is no evidence that supports that claim, but hey, since when did that stop you wink.gif

laugh.gif

I don't give a f*ck whether he fiddled with a lute, a flute, or the tail of his wine stained toga, he still 'fiddled'! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-21 19:01:51
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 21 2008, 06:38 PM) [snapback]515739[/snapback]
Probably because it's true. Same could be said for a few others, however.

I believe you may have intended-'Because it's probably true', and I invite you to amend your post.

You could alternatively furnish proof of your accusation!
mortonjag 2008-09-21 19:07:22
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 21 2008, 06:36 PM) [snapback]515737[/snapback]
Nice try.

I'm off to watch the rest of the Ryder Cup, far more entertaining that this thread.

Can we close this thread just to annoy MJ further? rolleyes.gif

I'm far from annoyed-just amused young man that others are noticing something which has been staring me in the face for ages.

You cannot serve two masters-that's a very sound piece of advice.

You should listen to Mortonjag's advice every so often. It will stand you in good stead-even if you are a golfer! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-21 20:11:41
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Sep 21 2008, 07:14 PM) [snapback]515752[/snapback]
"Come back Chris Millar, please. sad.gif"

why? i think the last thing we need is a lightweight midfielder who hides most games

I agree, but I'd happily have Midge back tomorrow.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 20:17:09
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Sep 21 2008, 07:11 PM) [snapback]515748[/snapback]
no what happens is the guys who run this forum for free get pissed off and walk away from it, mortonjag is doing to this board what he thinks dougie rae is doing to his own football club, the thing is, without this forum mortonjag has no platform to air his childish attacks on dougie rae as he has proved in the past, all keyboard and no substance. This forum does not speak for the majority of fans, just the ones who have little else to do with their time than to keep their post rate up. And the funny is that there is big trouble brewing down cappielow way and there has not been one post about it, and im positive there must be more people with info on this apart from little old me.

I take it you are at the 'wind up' Doc!

At least I'll give you the benefit of the doubt until you deny it, at which point most of that post becomes utterly laughable! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-21 20:19:20
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Sep 21 2008, 07:38 PM) [snapback]515765[/snapback]
the funny is that there is big trouble brewing down cappielow way and there has not been one post about it

what's the score with this Doc?
I take it that it's not just the dismal form your talking about? I know there were a few on here subtly suggesting there was discord but I ain't any the wiser, but to be honest I don't know much about the roles of the hierarchy of the club or finances etc. I just know by watching the team and the poor performances this season and the general atmosphere from the fans that there is something not right .

BIG DOC KNEW


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mortonjag 2008-09-21 20:33:28
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 21 2008, 08:25 PM) [snapback]515784[/snapback]
Good morning MJ,

You are asking me how the Trust works ? ! ?

I thought Bryan is your Trust man ?

I was thinking of a number of supporters each buying 150 pounds of shares.

(how was that minimum subscription decided ?)

Then, IF there was a motion of no confidence in the board at the AGM of the club, not the Trust, I expect that:

there would be a show of hands.

if the show of hands was in the affirmative, the Chairman could put it to a vote.

I expect that the Club has one vote per share.

So, the motion of no confidence would fail on the vote.


However, in many jurisdictions, the members could later call an extraordinary general meeting, if they were still unhappy.

etc

etc

etc

Minority shareholders do have rights.

Morton FC does not
belong to Sugar Rae.

Well, I kind of understand what you're saying Newt, but it's unlikely the Chairman would step aside unless he himself HAD to.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 20:37:37
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 21 2008, 08:31 PM) [snapback]515786[/snapback]
Is that a proven fact, bigdoc1874 ?

Big Doc seems to think he knows something nobody else knows, but he won't reveal it on the forum.

I think it must be a very, very serious matter indeed, if it has to be kept so secret that Big Doc tells us all but the trivial details-don't you? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-21 20:41:43
QUOTE(Sick Mick @ Sep 21 2008, 08:33 PM) [snapback]515788[/snapback]
Is there an uncurious branch of Christianity? huh.gif

At the end of the day, he's in Glasgow, the West of Scotland even. It's not a cheesy pop song here, it's a song, rightly or wrongly, that is associated with Rangers fans. We all know the stories about people who'll storm of the dance floor at Weddings etc if it's played.

It irks a lot of people, he was a bit naive by having his congregation sing it, and ultimately, "REF IN SECTARIAN SHOCKER" sells papers.

What I find most interesting about the story is that the papers probably have people planted in McCurry's Church just to catch stories like this.

Correct.

McCurry fully expected his congregation to understand exactly what was being celebrated-even if the poor deluded souls WERE thanking Jesus with their very hearts and souls.

Caught with his pants down yet again, and dare I suggest-'HELL' mend him?

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mortonjag 2008-09-21 20:56:02
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Sep 21 2008, 08:31 PM) [snapback]515787[/snapback]
My take on the game:

Cuthbert had little to do but pick the ball out the net twice and pull off one spectacular save. However, every time a cross comes in and he's caught in no-mans-land I lose a little bit off the end of my life. I still think Stewart is the better option. Back 4 were fine except for the parts that mattered (when we conceded the goals!). Shimmin was the stand-out and if he continues in that good form I would expect a decent fee when he moves on. Harding too was a bit better with his distribution, particularly when he elected to play into feet instead of the long, high floating pass that we have been used to.

Midfield was a bit hit and miss despite probably winning the midfield battle. Both Finlayson and McAlister worked their socks off, but neither came close to anything like threatening their opponent. McGuffie was okay, but hindered a bit by Paartalu who brought very little to the game and in my opinion should be dropped to accomodate either Jenkins or Masterton, both of whom have more intelligence and skill on the ball. And his long throws have yet to yield a scoring opportunity, so that aspect of his game would not be missed.

Russell took his goal very well and along with Shimmin has been one of the few performers over the last few games to put in an effective performance. Wake was not at the races today and while one can blame poor service, Weatherson won more headers in the space of 15 minutes than Wake did in 90 minutes while also committing fewer fouls. I admire Wake's work ethic, but I would rather have Weatherson on from the start next week or at the very least make sure Wake has a partner up front because he does not have the positional awareness to play up front on his own, especially when little is created down either flank.

As for the subs, I thought Masterton got involved well and was unlucky not to score with his first touch while Jenkins likewise stung some poor Thistle defender's hands with a shot in the dying minutes.

Provided all players are fit (I assume the long-term absentees won't be), I would line up like this for ICT on Tuesday:
------------------------------------Cuthbert-------------------------------------
Walker---------------Shimmin----------------Harding-----------------Smith
-------------------McGuffie-------Masterton--------Jenkins-------------------
Russell---------------------------------------------------------------McAlister
------------------------------------Weatherson---------------------------------
If we plan to play the long ball all night then perhaps Wake would be the better option up front to hassle the ICT defence, but I feel Weatherson is better at bringing others into play than Wake.

You spoiled a generally good post by talking utter bollocks about the goalkeepers IMHO.

Stewart's been a bloody bomb scare, in every match I've witnessed him play--a big fellow who is terrified to come off his line for anything. I gather he did quite well in the Clyde game (which I missed) before making the crucial error which lost us VERY valuable points. Cuthbert has looked increasingly solid over his last few matches.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 21:04:50
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 21 2008, 08:55 PM) [snapback]515800[/snapback]
How many chairmen have stepped aside, not because of legalities, but because they have discovered that they and the supporters had "drifted apart" ?

Is it much fun if he is the only one in step ?

Which club was Alan Sugar chairman of before he became the largest shareholder in Spurs ?

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There are Chairmen and Chairmen Newt!

Nothing would please me more than to hear Mr Rae say he was stepping aside to hand over to an experienced Director of Football. He would still get much credit for that.

As things stand it looks like everything may be a bit 'up in the air' -I believe he could still sell out to AD- IF the price was right, and IF he'd relinquish control completely, but I guess the latter is the main stumbling block-that and the fact that AD's valuation of the Club is presumably dropping in line with the Club's performances.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 21:07:30
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 21 2008, 09:01 PM) [snapback]515802[/snapback]
Wake isn't lazy, he's just pish.
Fits in well at the club...

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mortonjag 2008-09-21 21:15:19
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Sep 21 2008, 08:48 PM) [snapback]515797[/snapback]
what it is you have done ? e-mailed companies house whoooo
i would doubt im the only one
no, but can you disprove it ? batter on
who says i wont reveal it? i never said that. i also never mentioned that i was the only one to know, as for being trivial, i would think not but only time will tell

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You should be on the stage Doc.

I'm going to challenge you to put up or shut up-and while I'm at it the whole Companies House business was simply a reaction to folk like yourself attempting to stop questions being asked, and there were FAR more folk than Mortonjag involved behind the scenes.

You KNEW that too I'd imagine! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-21 21:18:59
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Sep 21 2008, 08:48 PM) [snapback]515798[/snapback]
Now that his chief economic advisor has been exposed as a 'spiv', I wonder if Eck will sack him?

Bawheid knew all along he was a spiv-just like himself.
mortonjag 2008-09-21 21:21:01
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 21 2008, 09:08 PM) [snapback]515808[/snapback]
Newcastle fans are brainless, idle dolts - why would we want to follow their example?

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mortonjag 2008-09-21 21:37:14
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 21 2008, 09:20 PM) [snapback]515813[/snapback]
Never get tired of this image

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mortonjag 2008-09-21 21:52:53
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 21 2008, 09:40 PM) [snapback]515827[/snapback]
MODERATORS!!!!!!!!!!!
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YUM YUM YUM-that was fantabascoobylubulous. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-22 07:30:07 indeed, you're RIGHT... HONOURABLE Sir



Labour finance spokesman Andy Kerr accused the First Minister of "hypocrisy and ignorance," adding: "This revelation severely damages Mr Salmond's own view of himself as a sophisticated economist with top- notch business connections.
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mortonjag 2008-09-22 07:53:41
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Sep 21 2008, 10:20 PM) [snapback]515847[/snapback]
Bomb scare?! Did you see Cuthbert at the Hibs game? Every time a cross came in he was all over the place. I think he is a decent keeper, I just think is awfully wee and doesn't command very well. His kicking is good and shot stopping as good as any keeper in the league. Perhaps Stewart would be no better over the piece, but other than the cross he missed against Clyde (there was a lot of fouling going on - see tontastic pictures) he has not put a foot wrong in my opinion.

Regardless, I'm not too bothered which keeper is in as I believe that the game is being lost elsewhere.


Stop looking at him next to big Erik!!!
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 21 2008, 10:57 PM) [snapback]515860[/snapback]
I am becoming more and more concerned about the lack of tactical awareness we have and, if it comes to needing a change, lets hope it comes in time to give someone new a chance to save us.

Indeed.

QUOTE(DongaTon @ Sep 22 2008, 12:54 AM) [snapback]515874[/snapback]
I agree there, I'll get shot down for this, but I thought the introduction of Weatherson changed things for us a bit - he was getting good knockdowns into good areas, no one running onto them.

Spoonsy may be a fat, unfit, disruptive, gambling, alcoholic Sassenach with a face like a coo's erse, but he can still play football! laugh.gif

QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Sep 22 2008, 01:17 AM) [snapback]515875[/snapback]
which is why i think we were idiots for letting Jon Newby go on loan. Only one who can see and make the move into goal scoring positions. Soon as he comes back along with a fit jenkins i think we will start to produce more goals and more wins. Until then its grinding results im afraid.


Idiots for MAKING him 'homesick' perhaps?
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Sep 22 2008, 03:56 AM) [snapback]515886[/snapback]
I feel so sorry for Wake and Russell, imo the two of them put in so much work that goes totally unrewarded.

CORRECTAMUNDO!
mortonjag 2008-09-22 08:06:40
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 21 2008, 09:31 PM) [snapback]515820[/snapback]
Medulla Oblongata

The medulla oblongata is the lower portion of the brainstem. It deals with autonomic functions, such as breathing and blood pressure, and is the only brain tissue possessed by 90% of posters on this forum? blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-22 08:13:10
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 21 2008, 10:33 PM) [snapback]515850[/snapback]
Profit doesn't really come into it though, although it helps...

Really SPARROT!

Mind you I heartily congratulate you on one of your shortest ever pieces of plagiaristic pish! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-22 09:11:57 Many happy returns from the monkey and fing! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-22 09:13:56
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 22 2008, 08:54 AM) [snapback]515900[/snapback]
is that good, bad or indifferent ?

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Yes
mortonjag 2008-09-22 09:15:34
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 22 2008, 08:55 AM) [snapback]515901[/snapback]
Andy Kerr accusing anyone of hypocrisy and in particular ignorance is probably as good a definition of irony as you could get.

Strange how the press are going out of their way to try to disprove any notion of short selling being involved, even to the extent of claiming that "only" 2.75% of HBOS shares were lent out last week. That's actually quite a lot; but in any case it doesn't take any account of shares involved in "naked" shorting, the practice where shares are sold without even having borrowed shares at all. Quite how selling something that you don't have, not even on loan, can be anything other than fraud is beyond me. And trying to make some sort of issue out of this Mathewson story is rather clutching at straws - it's not Mathewson who has been short selling, it's a company he works for. I realise he's probably quite high up in the company, but I think this is pretty much a non-story.

Finally, I don't think any Labour politician is in a very good position to make any allegations about financial impropriety given their recent record.

Very true.
mortonjag 2008-09-22 09:19:33
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Sep 22 2008, 09:04 AM) [snapback]515903[/snapback]
Maybe thats just you. rolleyes.gif
Happy meals dont tend to work, take them to a proper resturant, spend a bit of dosh on them............Oh, and get them pished after dinner ! wink.gif
Always works for me. biggrin.gif tongue.gif

mortonjag 2008-09-22 09:25:09
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 21 2008, 07:52 PM) [snapback]515771[/snapback]
im probably about 3ish. I'd never back down from someone wanting to fight with me, just dont get myself into that situation very often. I've got a mean right hook for a skinny b*****d aswell. laugh.gif

The reason no woman will let you anywhere near her knickers!
mortonjag 2008-09-22 09:28:16
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Sep 22 2008, 08:50 AM) [snapback]515899[/snapback]
Probably been posted before but never mind
Enjoy

Beermonkey-38 years old! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Ever tried humpin' a real woman?
mortonjag 2008-09-22 10:04:02
QUOTE(tontastic @ Sep 22 2008, 09:31 AM) [snapback]515912[/snapback]
I love it when folk quote wikipedia.

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It 's much more fun making the contributions for other people to quote! smartass.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-22 10:17:24
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 22 2008, 10:08 AM) [snapback]515915[/snapback]
32 posts of complete and utter pish, 33 if you include this one. You're all mental.

I am Peter-will you be on the bench tomorrow?

QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 22 2008, 10:09 AM) [snapback]515916[/snapback]
correct.

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mortonjag 2008-09-22 10:20:11 ....about tomorrow's big game.

He thinks we will win and all will be forgiven till Dunfermline beat us on Saturday! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-22 11:12:03
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Sep 22 2008, 10:39 AM) [snapback]515921[/snapback]
actually it's 25,483 and counting, posts of complete & utter pish.

One mans pish is another man's education! laugh.gif

QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 22 2008, 10:52 AM) [snapback]515927[/snapback]
as granny said, if you cannot say something nice, say nothing at all.

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Your Granny sound a really nice person Newt. Was she the one who was in the class below Mr Rae at the Academy?

QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 22 2008, 11:03 AM) [snapback]515933[/snapback]
Big Doc, I Know

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mortonjag 2008-09-22 11:14:36
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Sep 22 2008, 10:41 AM) [snapback]515924[/snapback]
Yes, he's the Chairman. laugh.gif

.......and that's where the buck stops!
mortonjag 2008-09-22 11:19:41
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 22 2008, 10:24 AM) [snapback]515919[/snapback]
does the monkey believe in arithmetic series ?

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I cannot speak for the Monkey, Newt-he is his own man monkey, and already sees himself as Chairman of the Club!

QUOTE(beermonkey @ Sep 22 2008, 10:50 AM) [snapback]515926[/snapback]
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AAaaaaahhhhh, That's better.

It's been a long time coming.

Hasn't it just! rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 22 2008, 10:56 AM) [snapback]515930[/snapback]
For the benefit of beermonkey

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QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 22 2008, 10:56 AM) [snapback]515931[/snapback]
I think it is known as a retrospective adjustment.

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Pushing his hairy head further up his hairier arse?
mortonjag 2008-09-22 11:22:14
QUOTE(GMFC14 @ Sep 22 2008, 10:59 AM) [snapback]515932[/snapback]
HAHA I'm the fud, ok then.

At least you're not an OLD fud! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-22 11:27:32 I'll certainly be going.

Those games always attract the curiosity of the floating supporters, or HAVE DONE in the past, and I'd fully have expected a 4000 plus crowd a couple of seasons ago.

I'd imagine we may still break 3000-anything less and we'll be told to bring two friends to future matches.
mortonjag 2008-09-22 11:53:23
QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Sep 22 2008, 11:35 AM) [snapback]515942[/snapback]
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Will Kermit be hopping over the turnstyle tomorrow night?
mortonjag 2008-09-22 12:42:02
QUOTE(big B @ Sep 22 2008, 12:07 PM) [snapback]515946[/snapback]
If things don't start improving how much longer will the fans stay patient?

How long will DDFR give him or will he be as loyal to him as he was to McInally?

Provided the fans ONLY turn on DI, I'd be surprised if Mr Rae fired his own choice at this stage.

IF, however, and it's a big 'IF', the fans turn volubly on the Rae empire, a scapegoat will be sacrificed forthwith!
mortonjag 2008-09-22 12:47:39
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 22 2008, 12:44 PM) [snapback]515959[/snapback]
I didn't!!! I said at the time he was a dreadful appointment. I stand by that even though we stayed up last season.

We're talking about two rookies, one of whom has been 'doing his best' for seven months.

The other's had seven years and we're going backwards!
mortonjag 2008-09-22 12:50:51
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 22 2008, 12:08 PM) [snapback]515948[/snapback]
Suggestion to the Mods...

For clarity, why not just rename the website 'mortonjag.org' and call this forum 'General Mortonjag Chatter'?

Then maybe somebody else could open a messageboard where football is discussed.

Just a thought like.

Wrong forum Noddy.

I'm surprised Big Ears hasn't directed you to the 'Suggestion Box'! There you could propose a forum entitled 'Noddy's Nonsense' where all the other children could join you in boundless infantile jibes.
mortonjag 2008-09-22 12:59:07
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 22 2008, 12:23 PM) [snapback]515950[/snapback]
Lies, all lies, Eck, the great helmsman, would not smooch about with running dog capitalist plutocrats.

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Moira Celeste?
mortonjag 2008-09-22 13:39:29
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 22 2008, 01:34 PM) [snapback]515982[/snapback]
we will not create a forum for one man.

Not even for a wee Monkey?
mortonjag 2008-09-22 13:42:57
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Sep 22 2008, 01:32 PM) [snapback]515981[/snapback]
I think MortonJag needs this forum like an alcoholic needs his drink. Addiction comes in all forms..

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Addiction indeed comes in many forms!

It appears to Mortonjag that certain posters are addicted to Mortonjag.

Some, it would appear, attempt unsuccessfully to self medicate with aversion therapy. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-22 13:47:41
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 22 2008, 01:40 PM) [snapback]515988[/snapback]
That's a pity, because it's become a bit of a chore having to wade through all his spam on here and on the General Morton Chatter Board, and I don't think I'm alone in thinking that.

I appreciate however that many others hang on his every word, so I thought a dedicated board may have been the best compromise solution all round.

It was just an idea.


It has clearly got you VERY excited! Bryan is referring to the Huff Button by the way-it's been here for ages but may just have arrived in Toyland! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-22 13:55:32
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Sep 22 2008, 01:50 PM) [snapback]516002[/snapback]
Great Idea

Oh Yes !
Or just ban him & newton (a right pair of boring b*****ds), so we can talk football again.

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mortonjag 2008-09-22 13:59:16
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 22 2008, 01:18 PM) [snapback]515973[/snapback]
Awww. A pair of attention seekers laugh.gif Any more??

Apologies in advance to Tontastic for the thread now being switched to general nonsense at Noddy's behest, but I don't see the Monkey anywhere. ohmy.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-22 14:06:32
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 22 2008, 01:41 PM) [snapback]515989[/snapback]
I wont be there...sorry Jag but I wont be coming on to score the winner with 10 minutes to go until Saturday smile.gif

I'm disappointed young man. I could suggest somebody else but I don't want the thread moved to general nonsense at the command of some fictional children's hero.


mortonjag 2008-09-22 14:13:42
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Sep 22 2008, 02:06 PM) [snapback]516015[/snapback]
He was on loan at Dunfermline last season, would be an idea to ask on one of their forums to see how he was. I have a feeling he was pretty poor though. He is a left midfielder though, which would be nice.

Also quoted as being equally good in attack. IF we have somebody who can use the left wing properly that will immediately increase our options for supplying the strikers.
mortonjag 2008-09-22 14:24:12
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Sep 22 2008, 01:49 PM) [snapback]516000[/snapback]
Admitting you have a problem is the 1st step down the recovery process sir.

Really! That's utterly fascinating, I'm sure you must be so proud of your success.

I'm actually a bit of an expert on addictive illness. It's very brave of you to bare your personal details to the inhabitants of Toytown! smile.gif



mortonjag 2008-09-22 14:29:59
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Sep 22 2008, 02:28 PM) [snapback]516028[/snapback]
He's away on his hols, but I'll pass on your regards.

TY smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-22 14:33:55
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 21 2008, 11:11 PM) [snapback]515867[/snapback]
EXTERNAL IMAGE LINK REMOVEDSeen from the Chairman's rear view mirror?
mortonjag 2008-09-22 14:38:10
QUOTE(Cawston @ Sep 22 2008, 02:32 PM) [snapback]516033[/snapback]
Exactly, why have two?

Three Cawstick, and the inhabitants of Toytown can't bleat to Uncle Bryan on the Jessie Boys' forum!
mortonjag 2008-09-22 14:43:13
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 22 2008, 02:40 PM) [snapback]516039[/snapback]
youd think it was my website the way folk go on rolleyes.gif

You'd think Noddy was your boss the way he goes on! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-22 15:06:47
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 22 2008, 02:56 PM) [snapback]516046[/snapback]
Just remind us all MJ, you are the guy who complained to the mods about multiple threads on the same subject being merged and even started a thread on the subject, aren't you?

If I'm not mistaken Noddy, my little Toytown friend, Barbie and Ghostie were actually much more aggrieved than Mortonjag, who commented correctly that his post had been merged and not deleted.

If you have any complaints about their perception of the Moderation of those multiple threads why don't you speak to them.

Oh- and I did comment some time later that I believed that the volume of individual protest was a legitimate demonstration of feeling which should not , in my opinion, have been 'muffled' by somebody who saw fit to tell them to 'dry their eyes'!

As somebody who appears to be heavily into individual protests I'm sure you'll agree with that view! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-22 15:09:06
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 22 2008, 02:57 PM) [snapback]516047[/snapback]
i have no boss on here bar edinton rolleyes.gif

I said that Noddy was attempting to boss you. He REALLY is a 'little bossy boots' if you ask me. Big Ears seems much more laid back!
mortonjag 2008-09-22 15:36:38
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 22 2008, 03:33 PM) [snapback]516055[/snapback]
Crowd will be 2500. Official crowd will be 2240!!

we will win this one 2-1 in extra time. C'mon Leafy with two stunners.

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Who he?
mortonjag 2008-09-22 16:20:55
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 22 2008, 03:52 PM) [snapback]516071[/snapback]
That's a very good idea. They already have a knife thrower, several clowns, and a performing monkey or two. Shouldn't be hard to put that together for a decent show laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-09-22 16:36:25 HA HA HA-Mortonjag answered honestly and is way down in the bottom left hand corner, so get that roon yes all!
mortonjag 2008-09-22 16:38:36
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 22 2008, 03:52 PM) [snapback]516072[/snapback]
Grind? I was thinking more 7 seconds of shame

A quick keech is nowt to be ashamed of!
mortonjag 2008-09-22 17:26:25
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Sep 22 2008, 05:22 PM) [snapback]516114[/snapback]
I'm to the left and libertarian.

5 boxes to the left and 3 down to be precise.

You could nearly superimpose me over Ghandi. That explains the liking for Vindaloo and my rounded tolerance for call centres.

Somebody pass me those sandals.

TonInDublin

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Compared to the Jag you're a rampant right wing imperialist! If it hadn't been for that question about spanking little pink botties I'd have fallen off the lower left corner!

Mind you if I'd taken the same test twenty years ago it would not have been so.
mortonjag 2008-09-22 17:32:32
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Sep 22 2008, 05:27 PM) [snapback]516117[/snapback]
....... wonder if there's one for a moral compass.

Now that would be interesting to see some on here with that one !
TonInDublin

It's bad enough expecting folk to be utterly honest about politics TiD!!!!!!!!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-22 19:47:41
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 22 2008, 07:13 PM) [snapback]516146[/snapback]
Contracts-for-difference markets have been thrown into confusion by the Australian market regulator's decision to ban short selling.

Several CFD providers acted quickly yesterday, stopping clients from taking short positions in Australian shares, while still permitting such positions on commodities, currencies and indices.

The complex products are aimed at retail investors, who agree to exchange the difference in the price of a security between the time a contract is opened and the time it is closed.

The Australian Securities Exchange, which also runs a CFD platform, has instructed brokers to seek guidance from the Australian Securities and Investments Commission.

An ASX spokesman, Matthew Gibbs, said it was unclear whether clients could take short positions in ASX-traded CFDs. There are about 50 equity CFDs and 15 CFDs on leading world indices, currencies and gold.

Yesterday just over 60,000 ASX CFD contracts traded, about one-third of the daily average.

On Sunday the commission banned short selling for all Australian shares, with a few exceptions, preventing investors from profiting when a stock's price falls.

A commission spokeswoman said the prohibition did not apply to CFDs, because they were derivatives.

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I doubt if the board's weans will have much interest in that Newt. Pop choons, computer games, shagging, booze, and grub seem to be the only things on which they opine with any authority.

I was thinking we could maybe start a new forum for the weans-lets face it-they could still have full read and write access to all the other forums but they could be encouraged to stick to their own, and leave those with a modicum of intelligence and maturity to discuss more weighty matters.

I thought that perhaps it could be headed the Noddy Numbskull Forum in honour of nothing of any great interest or substance. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-22 20:19:32
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 22 2008, 08:10 PM) [snapback]516184[/snapback]
Pretty much as I thought, a left of centre (-2.38) libertarian (-3.23)

Self deception on a grand scale Noddy.
mortonjag 2008-09-22 20:28:23
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 22 2008, 08:16 PM) [snapback]516189[/snapback]
Oh dear...........another non-story trying to show the SNP and Salmond in a bad light. Then they go and spoil it all by quoting Andy Kerr laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

No need to quote anybody Spurtle

Below is a picture of a political buffoon
mortonjag 2008-09-22 20:33:00
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 22 2008, 08:26 PM) [snapback]516203[/snapback]
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Got you love your keen sense of irony MJ. laugh.gif

Anyway, I answered the questions honestly and that's what it gave me so don't blame me for any inaccuracies in the result, perceived or otherwise. tongue.gif

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Who are you trying to kid Noddy-you're as right wing as your wee blue shorts.

Capitalist supreme with three hooses and renting out his holiday villa-and able to run a motor like this
mortonjag 2008-09-22 20:39:14
QUOTE(Lost in Space @ Sep 22 2008, 07:49 PM) [snapback]516171[/snapback]
I don't agree with your midfield selection, as I strongly beleive that McGuffie should never pull on a Morton shirt ever again. He came to us with a decent reputation and is not pulling his weight this season, not by a very long distance. His work rate, positioning, tackling and general demeanour on the park is woeful. He looks about 95% fit at best.

Partaluu is dire. He has a total lack of awareness of what he should be doing out there, a big lad whose timing for headers is shocking. He's nowhere near good enough to get us out of this.

Not in your selection, but one of the worst centre halves I've ever seen at Morton, Harding. How much more of a liability can this guy be? Often out of position, with diabolical distribution, and prone to at least one catastrophic error in just about every single game. He cannot be selected any longer.

Finlayson, what's happened to him? Always liked him, a hard worker, and some great pace. His crossing of the ball isn't brilliant, but he CAN skin a left back and create danger. However, he has stopped doing it recently. He came on aganst QoS last week, got the ball at his feet an number of times, and stopped! Has Irons told him to stop trying to beat the man? Somethings amiss there.

As for McAllister, there no point in him sitting on the halfway line, and then expecting him to go on good runs. He needs to be fed the ball about 30 yards from the goal line with one man to beat. I blame the midfield failures for his lack of form recently.

I said this last week, and I stand by it, we're already relegated. Hate to say it, but it's true. We are playing like a releageted team already.

Take it we can't count on you tomorrow night then!
mortonjag 2008-09-22 20:41:08
QUOTE(Ballboy @ Sep 22 2008, 08:05 PM) [snapback]516177[/snapback]
One of the brothers from down under. JM laugh.gif

Good God-JM's been at the dirty threesomes again!
mortonjag 2008-09-22 20:49:10
QUOTE(axeman @ Sep 22 2008, 08:22 PM) [snapback]516200[/snapback]
Looking at things as they stand at the moment & with the squad we currently have the best option, in my opinion, is to go back to the one system that proved successful in the league for Davie Irons & that is 3-5-2.

I feel that the current 4-5-1, or whichever variation we are playing, basically reeks of fear. We are saying to our opponents that we are scared of them, more scared of what they can do to us than confident in what we can do to them. I hate seeing Morton playing stuff like this as it totally goes against the style & confidence I was brought up on. In many ways it reminds me of the season round about 1989 when we went winless for a while at the start of the season & then proceeded to draw a large amount of our remaining games. Not pretty to watch.

Back to the 3-5-2 though & it really becomes a question of personnel. Who plays where, or more accurately who is most comfortable & will be most successful in which position.

There are of course many questions regarding this for instance what are the roles of Paartalu & Masterton ? Are they in the team for their set pieces or do they offer more than that ?

Firstly in Paartalu's case he has become so one-dimensional with his long throws, mostly aimed at Harding for a flick-on. Of course you can only get away with this for so long because surprisingly other teams scout us as well & see us trying the same routine ad nauseum. A bit of variation is most definitely needed there. I would however stick with him in the 3-5-2 as the defensive midfielder allowing the other 2 centre mids to drive on. The role he played when he joined us.

Masterton still has to show more than just free kicks, this isn't American Football after all, we can't just shuttle him on & off for those. Whether his form has been affected by the recent bereavement he suffered or he has just not played well, he is going to have to do far more to warrant a place every week.

The other options for midfield are McGuffie, Jenkins & Weatherson. I would have included The Dominator in there as well, as a replacement defensive midfielder but feel with 3 at the back we will definitely need his qualities there.

Of the three above stated McGuffie has been providing some much needed, mostly Cup though, goals. Jenkins isn't fully fit & there is the enigma that is Peter. If Jenkins was fully fit I've no doubt he would start every week, but we are waiting in hope for that happening. Weatherson I feel could do a job in there as one of the more advanced centre mids, but if I were to choose , fitness allowing it would be McGuffie & Jenkins.

Wing backs would be the routine again & that gives us Finlayson & McAllister. Neither are wingers, nor full backs, but they tick the boxes for having good engines which allow them to get up & down the park. The system also enables Finlayson to be more involved as he tends to be even more indecisive than usual when on the right of a four, constantly turning back with the ball at his feet, or determined to get rid of the ball as soon as possible.

Defensively I would stick with Shimmin & Harding, with the other place currently being a toss-up between Smith & Walker. Personally I think Smith will develop into a more effective defender, so would go with him. Walker can be very injury prone as well, which we seem to have a lot of with Greacen.McGregor & McManus all currently or recently having been out injured.

Keeper I would stick with Cuthbert. Upfront Beany & Wakey.

The basis I think for this system is that we have the players to play it & play it well. It's more open defensively but it will create more chance & make us more dangerous & a bigger threat in front of goal is an absolute necessity in our position.

What I dislike about the modern game is the blind reliance on coaching methods & manuals delivered by the likes of Andy Roxburgh & his like. Far too many times you see 2 managers/coaches all from the same coaching classes, all with the same diplomas having their teams play like a chess match. If he does this I'll counter with that kind of thing. This is where too often we fall down, there is no ingenuity or individualism from the coaches. No spark of genius or a bit of maverick ability that made the game what it is.

Davie Irons if you're reading this go out & be bold, be courageous, let the other team fear us rather than us quivering at the thought of them. If we're going to battle our way out of this or even if we don't manage that then at least send out a team with a bit of guile as that will build confidence both within your team & within the support.

Put the pride back in this club before it's too late.

That Sir, is one of the most sensible things I've seen posted on this forum for ages.

It sickens me every week on here to see our posters with their formations and battle plans, arguing with each other like weans over a rattle.

JEEEEEEEEEEZUZ-how can anybody predict with accuracy the weather conditions, let alone the opposition selection and tactics?

Football's about scoring goals-that's the object of the game and anybody who disagrees is brain damaged! Attack is the best means of defence.

Bring back Hal Stewart! He knew more about selling fags for the Co. than bloody coaching, yet his commonsense approach gave us the most exciting football seen at Scapa in the last 50 years.
mortonjag 2008-09-22 20:53:42
QUOTE(forza ton @ Sep 22 2008, 08:21 PM) [snapback]516196[/snapback]
looks like someone's let aff a banger in her fanny

I thought she was in a bath-I didn't play the children's game mind you.
mortonjag 2008-09-22 20:59:38
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 22 2008, 08:14 PM) [snapback]516186[/snapback]
Economic Left/Right: -7.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.49

Don't worry about it son-you're still not old enough to vote, let alone form experience based opinions like the grown ups.

If my proposal for the new weans' forum kicks off you'll undoubtedly be its Mortonjag. biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-22 21:05:35
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 22 2008, 08:52 PM) [snapback]516219[/snapback]
Gidday MJ,

The thread was started by Alibi.

And I posted the last entry mainly for him.

Do you know if he still intends to stand for the Scottish Parliament ?

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P.S. you have an email as my PM is broken

TY!


I had no idea that Sir Alistair had aspirations in that direction.

Frankly I'd be bitterly, bitterly disappointed if he joined forces with dough balls like Salmond Swinney, Sturgeon etc.

Having said that he could maybe get us planning consent to sell Scapa to a Superstore, just like Bendy did for the midden!
mortonjag 2008-09-22 21:10:13
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 22 2008, 09:00 PM) [snapback]516235[/snapback]
I'll never be as sad and decrepit as you are.

HAHA sonny boy-the common misperception of the Jag. Happy, fit, agile, sexually very active, talented in music and the arts-umpteen degrees and diplomas, and mistaken by most folk for forty!

Those are just a few I mentioned BTW! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-22 21:12:23
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 22 2008, 09:09 PM) [snapback]516250[/snapback]
I think the three years of investment I done would take quite a while to describe on a very basic forum smile.gif

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mortonjag 2008-09-22 21:15:04
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Sep 22 2008, 09:00 PM) [snapback]516234[/snapback]
Is that you Col, with the bunnet, the tache and the disapproving look? biggrin.gif

Yip-and the hands in pockets to hide the mangled hands of the ex prize fighter.
mortonjag 2008-09-22 21:17:41
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 22 2008, 09:15 PM) [snapback]516261[/snapback]
Yet your infantile mind possesses little but thoughts of toy monkeys and a curious, borderline sexual, fixation with Alistair Donald.
Sad really.
I care little for what you have or have not acheived in the past - be sure that if you were a fraction of the person you claim to be I'll be studying you in the History lectures. Somehow I doubt that as you're a complete irrelevance despite your ever increasing delusions of grandeur.

PFFT-only failures study history. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-22 21:25:16
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 22 2008, 09:12 PM) [snapback]516256[/snapback]
If by 'plagiaristic pish' you mean well-established basic financial theory, a subject in which by way of Accounting I have a 'basic' qualification in, then yes of course.
You're a condescending smug prat - more's the pity for those who grow old so disgracefully.

I MEANT plagiaristic pish sonny boy, and one of your 'ins' is redundant!

You may well believe I'm a condescending smug prat. Perhaps you should ask yourself why you-far and above any of your peers on this forum -are the prime target.

You are a jumped up, immature brat, who is only bright enough to be a danger to himself.

I better add a wee smiley-that's what one is meant to do when one is merely jousting-why don't you do the same?

Here-I'll give you two... wub.gif wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-23 07:33:44
QUOTE(dazed @ Sep 23 2008, 06:52 AM) [snapback]516410[/snapback]
I would miss momkey and fing if he were to be banned or moved , also his world renowned charm ,wit and wisdom would be sorely missed! biggrin.gif

I've always perceived you as well balanced, tolerant, perceptive, and able to take a joke.

The Mods will see this thread for what it is-the creation of a very small and narrow minded man.

The 'poll' for what it's worth has come out pretty even in any case! dry.gif

mortonjag 2008-09-23 07:44:41
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Sep 22 2008, 09:58 PM) [snapback]516298[/snapback]
The irony is that the paragraph you selected appeared in the middle of a post that was all about disecting the team's tactics, formation and system.

I agree with axeman's points about the 4-5-1 formation, I hate it. 'reeks of fear' sums it up brilliantly. One of the worst things to happen to football was Greece winning Euro 2004 playing this system because it showed that it was possible to win something with a limited team as long as you got everyone behind the ball, stifled the opposition and hit on the counter. After that tournament everyone starting trying it. I don't think I've ever been so annoyed and almost ashamed by a Morton team as when we defended with everyone behind the ball and one up front at home to Queen Of The South.

One ofthe most depressing things I've ever read footballwise was this Guardian article. In it former Brazil coach Carlos Alberto Parreira predicts the coming of the 4-6-0 formation. Andy Roxburgh is quoted on how he thinks it would work. sad.gif

You clearly misunderstood me.

My comments were made with reference to the highlighted part of Axeman's post, which-for me-says it all.
mortonjag 2008-09-23 07:53:45
QUOTE(ton fan @ Sep 23 2008, 12:01 AM) [snapback]516381[/snapback]
will no doubt get slaughtered for this but here goes,

when reading through threads have noticed quite a few people saying things like-

What exactly IS going on is the question we would all like answers to, my opinion has been formed by what I regard as very reliable individuals informing me, but I would not post this publicly until I am 100% certain of the accuracy and only when they allow me to, but I do not doubt what i have been told.

Cappielow is not a happy ship, and this is not down to the likes of Airdrie away, this is more deep rooted and the silence that eminates from our club is ridiculous at times. Clarity is required as the grumblings of the fans are growing.

DDF cannot ask us as fans to bring along more people to games until he clearly maps out our future and imo the share issue is not relevant at this time. But i will not hold my breath. If he does come out publicly it will have more spin than tanning a bottle of vod in one go would have.

There are still some on here who will not have Our Lord DDF's name taken in vain, we are ENTITLED to ask these questions and the club should have the curteousy to provide CLEAR answers to them.

What happened on Sunday at Cappielow would be one of my first questions.
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Gidday Barbarossa,

I have received 2 emails this week from Ton supporters, apart from MJ.

I don't even think they could identify MJ in a police line up.

However, each email states that Sunday was NOT good.

And that DI's quotes in the Evening Times appear to be just an attempt to paper over the cracks.
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Why Davie because you said so.
public board, entirely up to the individual what and how much they may want to divulge. I have been busy and I have now had 3 seperate people today confirming the same story by phone to me and none of them are connected with one another. Their oonly connection is with their love of Morton and wanting that future to be assured.

I'm sure you will know soon enough
there are more posts like this but i think thats enough to highlight my piont,

i am not trying to say the people who have been told these things are trying to make it out like i know something you dont kind of thing, but if there are serious problems at cappielow and if the sh!ts going to hit the fan sooner or later,

would it not be better to try and do something about it now?, rather than wait till it happens and say to yourself i knew that was going to happen, what can be done to fix it?, we have been down that road before and its not something i want to see happen to morton again,

one of the posts highlighted above ends by saying I'm sure you will know soon enough,

lets just hope soon enough is not to late

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mortonjag 2008-09-23 08:09:57 There are many, many reasons why only a victory tonight will guarantee Mr Rae a 'stay of execution'.

He'll stay in physical terms of course-I'm talking figuratively- but his credibility is at an all time low and in danger of disappearing completely.

The whispers of discontent have evolved to free and open debate. Questions which were fiercely opposed in the past are now asked with impunity several times a day.

It's no longer 'disrespectful' to criticise the Chairman 'because he saved us'.

There is a strong undercurrent of discontent. It will take very little for that to become an unstemmed deluge.

There is no way back for the Raes-the fans will not accept any more excuses-we've had quite enough. We either have to start achieving something or it's time to go Dougie.

I hope for you, and for all true Ton fans that we prevail tonight.



mortonjag 2008-09-23 08:24:30
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 23 2008, 08:17 AM) [snapback]516428[/snapback]
This night isn't make or break night for the chairman, this night means absolutely nothing....it's a bonus. I would like us to win tonight but i really couldnt care less if we do and our chairman won't be judged on us being knocked out a cup by a much better team than us.

The league is all that matters.

I was attempting to throw the Chairman a much needed lifeline. If the league is indeed all that matters, it's already TTGD!
mortonjag 2008-09-23 08:30:57
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 22 2008, 09:27 PM) [snapback]516277[/snapback]
I'm not going to take lessons on intelligence from a poster who can't even use a space bar.

You're gunning for a good pink botty session, and I refuse to give you what you so much want.
mortonjag 2008-09-23 08:39:43
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 22 2008, 09:19 PM) [snapback]516267[/snapback]
Failed the dash test yet again - I assume you failed either English or IT. laugh.gif

'Failed either English or IT'. Is that schoolchild gobbledegook? I failed several Art exams at school-I'm not good at drawing.

QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 22 2008, 09:20 PM) [snapback]516269[/snapback]
That Zoe lassie who posts fails the dash test too...strange that!

Mind your political correctness young man. That Zoe lassie is in fact a 'young woman' and appears somewhat brighter than your good self. Didn't she say she's at a proper university or something to that effect? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-23 08:48:51
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Sep 23 2008, 08:25 AM) [snapback]516432[/snapback]
Beat that established SPL team or you're FINISHED Dougie! mad.gif

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Those may indeed prove to be prophetic words. I didn't feel the need to put it so harshly.
mortonjag 2008-09-23 09:01:25
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 23 2008, 08:46 AM) [snapback]516442[/snapback]
Naw borrow an assault rifle from cooncilor Kalashnikov? unsure.gif

I'd imagine 'buy' would be more appropriate.
mortonjag 2008-09-23 09:07:50
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 23 2008, 08:32 AM) [snapback]516437[/snapback]
Since most of what is quoted is my own words I suppose I should try and answer.

Far from it being an attitude of "I told you so", more so as a lifelong ton fan I am worried about the direction the club is heading and on the face of some very credible information that was a tad worrying to me, I posted my worries and maybe I should not have.

In future I will keep any information to myself and those who I personally know. A public forum seems not to be the place to post such things.
Would it be best if I just said all is rosy at Cappielow?

btw, I am not having a go at you ton fan.

I doubt if there's very much need to hold things back now. The tide has clearly turned. I strongly suspect our concerns will be aired much more publicly in the near future.
mortonjag 2008-09-23 09:45:45
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 23 2008, 09:11 AM) [snapback]516465[/snapback]
Absolute rubbish to say that Mr Rae's future as chairman depends on tonight's result. Get off his back, MJ. Your constant moaning about Mr Rae is becoming extremely boring. If you have the money, you buy the club. Put up or shut up.

Away an' bile yer heid.

I warned you about Mileson two seasons in advance, and you laughed me to scorn.

I warned about McInally two seasons in advance and was laughed to scorn.

I've been warning about Rae for over three seasons, and when the chickens are coming home to roost, there are still fools who can't see reality when it's staring them right between the eyes!

Oh-and stop putting spin on my posts please!

Didn't you READ what I wrote?

Have another try.


He'll stay in physical terms of course-I'm talking figuratively- but his credibility is at an all time low and in danger of disappearing completely.
mortonjag 2008-09-23 10:00:33
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 23 2008, 09:23 AM) [snapback]516472[/snapback]
And under this suggestion you'd still be free to do so. smile.gif



QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 23 2008, 09:26 AM) [snapback]516474[/snapback]
Wow, wow, wow - hang on - yet another one who obviously obviously didn't read or understand the suggestion.

Under this suggestion Mortonjag would NOT be banned and you would NOT miss his 'charm, wit and wisdom'. smile.gif



QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 23 2008, 09:27 AM) [snapback]516478[/snapback]
Under this suggestion Mortonjag would stil be able to make you laugh. smile.gif



So good that 'three hooses' said it thrice! laugh.gif

I see you're no longer the little chappie in pale blue shorts and a toorie bunnet.

Did you tire of his inanely self indulgent puerile bleatings to the Mods?
mortonjag 2008-09-23 10:11:06
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 23 2008, 09:56 AM) [snapback]516492[/snapback]
If it is time for the Chairman to go then I don't think it's because we're going to lose a game in which we are underdogs to an SPL side. Rather it will be the regressive signing policy, lack of a credible youth system, etc. etc.

I agree!

It's funny how apparently intelligent posters (forget Big Doc) have chosen to take from my posting exactly what suits them. That of course is the norm!

All I've done is highlight the indisputable fact that Mr Rae's credibility hangs perilously in the balance.

I've stated that a win tonight will, in those terms, grant a reprieve.

I'm also thinking of the financial situation. I DO believe that tonight's game with the opportunity to progress to a Partick or Queens cup scenario of last season's dimensions is MONSTROUS for the Chairman.

mortonjag 2008-09-23 11:43:39
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 23 2008, 10:39 AM) [snapback]516513[/snapback]
That's some bait you have on your giant hook today good Doctor.

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QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 23 2008, 10:50 AM) [snapback]516521[/snapback]
What everyone seems to forget is that football clubs are (generally) not democracies. You wouldn't dream of calling for change at the top of Golden Casket. Fans (like Newcastle recently) who chant 'sack the board' are somewhat missing the point. Rae will only leave once he gets an offer he can't refuse and everyone has their price.


Correct Peter, and that day is probably being hastened by our dismal performances and a dropping asking price!
QUOTE(centralTON @ Sep 23 2008, 11:09 AM) [snapback]516535[/snapback]
Spot on Jamie, we'd all like a wee run in this cup, or the Scottish cup, but, league survival is paramount. The way things are right now I'd settle for 9th spot, and take our chances in the play-offs.

To the fans-YES!

QUOTE(Greacen2000 @ Sep 23 2008, 11:24 AM) [snapback]516537[/snapback]
in my opinion tonight has no impact on our chairmans future, as its already too late for him. a decent result in the cup will not be enough to save him. his credibility in my eyes is zero and its time for someone else to step in and take over (NOT his son might i add). I have had enough and I for one will not be back at Cappielow until he is out.

Slate me if you want but thats how i feel

I fail to see why anybody should slate you for a reasoned and in my opinion, reasonable viewpoint.
mortonjag 2008-09-23 11:56:03
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Sep 23 2008, 09:57 AM) [snapback]516493[/snapback]
Call me a cynic....a fitba' ref singing a song associated with an OF club? I might have given him the benefit of the doubt until the big red foam hands appear! Knob! dry.gif

or as the wee Sunday School teacher put it-the big red K**B appeared and he foamed.
mortonjag 2008-09-23 12:04:29
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Sep 23 2008, 09:42 AM) [snapback]516487[/snapback]
Yes you do.

Need to stop these barrack room attempts at conning people with less than half a brain into more Braveheart rhetoric Geordie.

You know the score, most sensible people know the score - play nice eh ?

TonInDublin

That will be a first! rip.gif

QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 23 2008, 10:37 AM) [snapback]516511[/snapback]
This really annoys me. No matter how skint you are you can access the internet in you local library. The government has announced today that they're going to give people under 26 free theatre tickets and we had the free heroin suggestion a few weeks ago. I like fillet steak and red wine, can I have some free stuff too or do I have to buy my own and pay for these other mad schemes through my taxes? Ridiculous. Give a man a fish and you'll feed him for a day, teach a man to fish and you'll feed him forever.

True Peter, but what about the ineducable?
mortonjag 2008-09-23 12:09:44
QUOTE(marbellaton @ Sep 22 2008, 10:48 PM) [snapback]516346[/snapback]
So did I. Hillend, he live up the stilts on Belville Street, ginger hair.

Woman at work is called Sue King, but I can't admit to knowing whether she is any good at it!!!

Customer used to call in with the name, Doda Jobe, pbut pronounced it Dodda Jobbie.

Possibly related to Sue K Dick.
mortonjag 2008-09-23 12:13:36
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 23 2008, 10:42 AM) [snapback]516516[/snapback]
Join in the harmless banter. The more the merrier. wink.gif

OK my Dear-here's a piece of harmless banter that got Morton jagged banned by the Mod Superior, and it may come as a huge disappointment...


Lorry man is a POUFFE!
mortonjag 2008-09-23 12:26:53
QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 23 2008, 11:52 AM) [snapback]516556[/snapback]
WTF has Mileson got to do with this? Absolutely nothing. Incidentally, I don't regard the money as history because I think we may well get paid eventually out of Mileson's pocket, or so the liquidator (formerly administrator) tells us. There are legal processes going on at the moment to implement that.

I'm not opining about whether or not Mr Rae is the best chairman we could have - I'm just saying that you appear to have a vendetta against him.

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Which is EXACTLY what you said to me ad nauseam when I slated Mileson while you supported him to the hilt. You repeatedly accused me of 'jealousy'!!! I even remember you arguing vigorously about all the 'knock on benefits' for the community, which, if I recall, included your son. laugh.gif

Why don't you accept once and for all Alibi, that Mortonjag doesn't do 'vendettas'. I call it as I see it, and I've refused to be muffled.

Rae's personality has been dragging the Club downwards for long and weary. In terms of the future of OUR club, he's finally being identified by the majority as 'public enemy number one', and you accuse me of 'having a vendetta'!!

Some may be thinking that like many posters who are too dim to know any better, YOU have a vendetta against Mortonjag! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-23 12:37:15
QUOTE(dazed @ Sep 23 2008, 12:05 PM) [snapback]516563[/snapback]
Fair enough I obviously got the wrong end of the stick although I thought this thread was for a bit of fun and treated it as such smile.gif

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mortonjag 2008-09-23 12:40:30
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 23 2008, 12:22 PM) [snapback]516572[/snapback]
Well, it's a fact so it's hardly a pile of s***e.
I think sorting out tax bands and stopping energy companies from rampant profiteering would be a far better way of solving problems for the low paid rather than creating and nurturing the dependency culture.
Mouse Eat Fish is a great idea. laugh.gif

Mouse eat shark?
mortonjag 2008-09-23 12:44:45
QUOTE(Ghost @ Sep 22 2008, 11:29 PM) [snapback]516371[/snapback]
Millions went missing from Buchanans ph34r.gif



QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 23 2008, 12:24 PM) [snapback]516573[/snapback]
It says on Inverclyde Now that a helicopter was used last night in a search for a missing patient from Inverclyde Royal. I hope it wasn't Abdul "Bertie" Basset. ph34r.gif

Millions AND liquorice allsorts-that's quite a heist!
mortonjag 2008-09-23 12:50:20 In the unlikely event of a defeat, could you play us out with that old Connie Francis favourite of our beloved Chairman-'Who's sorry now?'
mortonjag 2008-09-23 12:53:08
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 23 2008, 12:47 PM) [snapback]516580[/snapback]
Beermonkey - a bloke with his priorities in the right place.

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Baws in a mincer?
mortonjag 2008-09-23 13:57:35
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 23 2008, 01:48 PM) [snapback]516611[/snapback]
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Indeed Weegie-and guess who took it off topic in the first place-Holier than thou Beermonkey. rolleyes.gif

I post serious threads which are repeatedly hi-jacked, and just have to accept that that's how it goes.

Precious little Geordie boy has a bee in his bunnet-he tries to bully the Mods into accepting his utterly hare brained idea, and goes in a big cream puff when he's effectively told to stick it where the sun don't shine.

I have this suspicion that he was once refused entry to the polis for some reason and has had it in for all and sundry ever since!

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mortonjag 2008-09-23 14:10:46
QUOTE(EBu @ Sep 23 2008, 01:51 PM) [snapback]516614[/snapback]
In defence of Cuthbert I dont think its his choice to do the big punt up the park. From where I sit I can see and hear DI and DC and every time, and I mean every time there is a kick out, free kick or throw in they are out telling the player where to put it.

On the occasion that the player does the "wrong" thing he gets a major kick up the you know what.

I'm starting to wonder if DI is too strict in the roles he sets the players and they are too scared to show any imagination that may take them out of their designated roles.

I'm certain there's much in that, and it's a sure sign of an inexperienced Managerial team IMO.
mortonjag 2008-09-23 14:18:01
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Sep 23 2008, 02:04 PM) [snapback]516621[/snapback]
he does have a point though.... the fact that scotland is potentailly missing out on millions of pounds of our OWN money to that shower of twtas down the road is something that should be serious to us all..... I am striggling to comprehend how gordon brown is getting away with what he is... if what the uk govt is doing now to Scotland doesnt convince all Scots that the time is right for independence,then nothing will.. roll on the revolution...

The point is certainly worthy of discussion. I won't get involved because I'm unconvinced by the political spin from both sides.

TiD correctly questioned the rabble rousing techniques regularly employed by 'trois maisons'!
mortonjag 2008-09-23 14:27:00
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 23 2008, 01:40 PM) [snapback]516608[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-09-23 14:40:21
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 23 2008, 02:24 PM) [snapback]516639[/snapback]
Not taking the cream puff at all MJ, far from it.

The fact is though that you're putting a lot of people off from participating on here. That obviously don't bother you in the slightest. Quite the opposite in fact, you seem to revel in it, and that's fair enough.

But I was just trying to find a solution that satisfied everyone, that's all. If the good people of the greenockmorton.org community don't agree with that and think everything's just honkey-dorey the way they are just now, then so be it. At least I tried. smile.gif

And at the end of the day, it's only a messgeboard, not life itself.

Evidence please!

So far as I've been able to determine, every time I post there seems to be a fairly active response.

I'd hate anybody to be put off, contrary to your suggestion that it doesn't bother me.

There will always be folk who don't feel at home in certain environments. In my experience the remedy is in their own hands.

What do you think of the repeated and recently more vicious attacks on certain posters by others who have adopted aliases purely to attack individuals?

Surely THAT's the sort of behaviour that's specifically designed to put genuine posters off.
mortonjag 2008-09-23 14:46:48 Shimmin's wimmin

Dom's poms

Walker's locker

Jenkins 'ere

Masty's pasties

mortonjag 2008-09-23 15:02:28
QUOTE(centralTON @ Sep 23 2008, 02:44 PM) [snapback]516652[/snapback]
MJ, you and I have discussed this topic before, and as said at the time, the chairman may well feel that we would benefit financially, in terms of attendances, if we were top of the 2nd Division rather than being off the pace at the bottom of Div1.
I am sure someone much smarter than me could provide you with crowd averages from last season and the previous one, and almost certainly the crowds will have been bigger in Div 2 because we were going for the title.

However, I would like to think that the chairman's a fan too.

I have not a shadow of doubt that Mr Rae is a Morton fan who hates to see the team lose.

I have been stating for three years that he is the victim of his own personality. Once he has decided what he THINKS will be best, he is unable to accept when it goes wrong, and in the great scheme of things that has been his main downfall.

Another of his personality traits which has done him no favours is the attitude that those who are not openly for him must be perceived as 'the enemy'.

There are more!!

So he IS a Morton fan-but first and foremost he's a Dougie fan and expects everyone else to be the same.
mortonjag 2008-09-23 15:05:22 If the motivation's there, I'd pick them out of a lucky bag and lock DI/DC in hospitality.
mortonjag 2008-09-23 15:15:05
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Sep 23 2008, 03:07 PM) [snapback]516669[/snapback]
Scary!! You sounded like my wife when I asked for permission to attend tonights game... rolleyes.gif "You are self self self.....you and that bloody football team"

You are rather late in jumping on the 'bash the Jag' bandwagon my friend, but do fill yer bits!


What do you think of Mr Rae's stewardship of the club?

Perhaps you are more comfortable posting relatively trivial threads about tonight's line up, when hardly anybody seems to give a f*ck about tonight's game.

That's down to one man!

Don't you agree?

mortonjag 2008-09-23 15:31:40
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Sep 23 2008, 03:12 PM) [snapback]516675[/snapback]
I know of at least one erstwhile frequent and active poster on here who no longer does so because of you. I'm obviously not going to give a name but I'm sure you'll be able to work it out yourself without too much trouble if you were to give it a bit of thought. And of course there are many others like me who continue to contribute even though you've taken a lot of the enjoyment and interest out of doing so. That's just my opinion, shared I know by many others, but equally I accept there are others who'll disagree with me and who may even be in the majority.

But here we go again - this thread was started to try to get opinions and generate a decent discussion on what I thought was an important subject - and it ends up being about you yet again. rolleyes.gif



OH MY GOD-you actually know of ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I take it this innocent soul never dreamed of crossing swords with Mortonjag! dry.gif

That's the problem, isn't it?

If you can't stand the heat CHC, get out of the kitchen. We're all supposed to be big boys remember.

Are you hoping for a sainthood by 'continuing to contribute even though I've taken a lot of the enjoyment and interest out of doing so'. Oh that everybody would follow your rabble rousing leads and dance to your merry little tunes!!!

'It's MY game and you're spoiling it-I'll clype to the Mods-I'll canvass support and sympathy-oh wait, nobody cares-BOO BLOODY HOO!'

GROW UP! crying.gif crying.gif crying.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-24 06:37:46
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Sep 23 2008, 03:17 PM) [snapback]516681[/snapback]
No need to be touchy, I'm not jumping on any bandwagon MJ. I seriously just thought of my wife moaning at me last night when I read that post.....that is all.

laugh.gif I confess to a little paranoia GT. It comes from constantly being under attack. Even people I trust are always talking behind my back. At Cappielow folk stare at me and then look at each other knowingly. The voices are very disturbing too! smile.gif

QUOTE(SramTon @ Sep 23 2008, 04:44 PM) [snapback]516769[/snapback]
I have some sympathy for Rae. He's had bad luck as well as bad judgement.

I have not an ounce of sympathy for him He has made his 'bad luck'. His apparent success making sweeties has been mirrored by abysmal failure as a football club chairman, and that's the chance to progress in the League cup now gone. More 'bad luck'-or just the result of his unwillingness to sign an experienced manager he can't control? I see AD was present again last night. His offer must be going down in value by the week. When will that crazy old fud finally cut and run?

QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 23 2008, 06:20 PM) [snapback]516799[/snapback]
Bad luck, bad judgements, bad decisions but most of all interference. His tenure's failure thus far can only be blamed on one person.

...and he CANNOT change!

QUOTE(vespaton @ Sep 23 2008, 07:21 PM) [snapback]516812[/snapback]
I think DR is a local man who most likely went from rags to riches via his business....man made....no silver spoon.




Moral of the story....do you want a DR (safe and the club won't go under) or Gordon Ramsay type where we may get success but 5 years down the line go into administration.

Regards,

Brian.


Duncan Douglas Faulds Rae, son of relatively well to do local business people, and educated at a fee paying school. Started a career in banking before deciding to go into business.

Give me a GR type right now. According to my fellow posters I'll be deid in 5 years anyway, and the Ton is not a bloody Gretna. It's long past time folk acknowledged our potential.

QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 23 2008, 07:47 PM) [snapback]516816[/snapback]
Give me Dougie Rae over Gordron Ramsay anyday. At least Dougie cares about the club and goes to every game, Ramsay has so many things going on he'd make it to one game a season and not be around the club all year.

Not that Ramsay will ever take over Morton anyway.

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mortonjag 2008-09-24 06:49:47 I heard last night that the real reason for Colin Stewart's current 'injury' is that he was caught....

OOPS.... laugh.gif

mortonjag 2008-09-24 06:51:55
QUOTE(Deego @ Sep 23 2008, 11:40 PM) [snapback]516957[/snapback]
v*****.

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mortonjag 2008-09-24 07:05:36 Cuthbert was MOTM for me.

Shimmin, Smith, Masty, and Wakey also stood out, the latter for his tireless engine like work up front.

Irons totally f***ed up again IMO. The game was still there to be won in NORMAL time if he'd made his subs earlier and properly. WTF was Masterton 'hooked'? After he left to a standing ovation we got f*ck all from set pieces. Pantaloons should have been the one to go off .

Jimbo got his goal, and was more like his old self, but still the final product is pretty dire most of the time, and I'm afraid superkev just ain't very super those days.

Credit to all the boys for effort. We can win come Saturday, but I suspect Mr Irons will be back to his philosophy of 'not leaking goals', which has seen us score 2 in seven league matches! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-24 07:16:44
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 23 2008, 09:40 PM) [snapback]516871[/snapback]
I saw the 90 minutes but had to come home just there as my wee brother isn't well. (He did well to last the 90 minutes, coz he was flagging badly.) We're actually playing quite well when we're not resorting to just punting it up to Wake, who can't deal with that kind of service. MotM so far is Shimmin - an absolute powerhouse. Fantastic, fantastic, fantastic.


Shimmin's beginning to sound almost as good as Jimbo was four years ago! rolleyes.gif

What did you think of Chris Smith last night?
mortonjag 2008-09-24 07:18:59
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Sep 24 2008, 12:13 AM) [snapback]517033[/snapback]
Last time we made the last 8 in the League Cup...

It's a diddy cup! wink.gif

IT IS NOT A DIDDY CUP AND WE'VE LOST AGAIN THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SOME MUCH NEEDED MONEY!
mortonjag 2008-09-24 07:22:52
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Sep 23 2008, 11:47 PM) [snapback]516984[/snapback]
you'd rather get pumped four-nil, would you? Not me - I don't want to see Division Two football at Scapa again and that's where we'll be if we don't grind out a few results to get out of the bottom two spots.

Get real, guys - if we have to win ugly, we have to win ugly; it's the ONLY way we're likely to win just now!

Thank you Mr Irons. You may now go away.

QUOTE(piehutt @ Sep 24 2008, 12:20 AM) [snapback]517053[/snapback]
We have a limited squad and fans have to accept if we are going to get results, in the near future, we have to take them any which way.

Thank you Mr Collins. You may now go away.
mortonjag 2008-09-24 07:25:26
QUOTE(Ghost @ Sep 23 2008, 11:39 PM) [snapback]516953[/snapback]
Im sure there were plenty more than 2032 at the game.

Of course there were Ghostie-confirmed by the half time draw money being well over three hundred quid.

Looks like Rae's been reduced to blatant fiddling to get a few extra bob. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-24 07:29:22
QUOTE(Savo @ Sep 24 2008, 12:40 AM) [snapback]517074[/snapback]
There definitely was a programme, was standing with JonaTon who bought one - and he said that Rae was referring to 'Inverness Caledonia' in his column laugh.gif

It was a £1 'cheapie'. I've not had a chance to read mine yet, but will when I go for a keech, shortly.

I thought we were supposed to make a profit from the programme, and I thought last night's match was a Cup Tie against SPL opposition. Maybe the printers weren't 'up for it'! dry.gif

Sorry, sorry, sorry times behind the scenes at Cappielow.
mortonjag 2008-09-24 07:32:18 Who could possibly predict it-football's such a crazy game.

What I will say is that if we get two half decent wingers and a creative midfielder on loan before Saturday, we'll probably walk it.
mortonjag 2008-09-24 07:49:02
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 23 2008, 06:42 PM) [snapback]516804[/snapback]
Sacked workers in India allegedly beat to death the local chief executive of an Italian company that had laid them off.

Scores of former employees at auto parts maker Graziano Transmissioni attacked chief executive Lalit Kishore Choudhary after a meeting to discuss a long-running labour dispute, Indian newspapers reported.

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http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/world...1935621943.html

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mortonjag 2008-09-24 07:50:13
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 23 2008, 04:34 PM) [snapback]516761[/snapback]
can't they just be friends.

friends never leave their mates behind.

signed Spurtle

QUOTE(RosscoTon @ Sep 23 2008, 06:54 PM) [snapback]516806[/snapback]
Frog would own Monkey.

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mortonjag 2008-09-24 07:55:32
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 23 2008, 04:22 PM) [snapback]516745[/snapback]
He's a pensioner, what do you expect? He's grumpy and has got hee-haw else to do. Reminds me of a certain Mr Rae, hmmmmmmmm.

I am HE!

QUOTE(simple_ton @ Sep 23 2008, 04:29 PM) [snapback]516755[/snapback]
And now........
back to letting the Good Doc drivel...... laugh.gif laugh.gif

Dribble? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-24 07:59:23
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 23 2008, 04:27 PM) [snapback]516751[/snapback]
Or Ghandi. Hitler is recorded as telling the British ambassador how to solve the India problem: shoot Ghandi, then shoot other selected members of the national Congress, and so on until the rule of Britain is restored...

Excellent SPARROT - we have a breakthrough at last! Soon you'll be quoting all your sources and mentioning that your statements are opinions.

Well done! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-24 09:04:34
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 24 2008, 08:09 AM) [snapback]517128[/snapback]
On the way to work this morning, could have sworn I saw some bright yellow thing, with a man dressed in red floating up the Clyde. Na couldn't have been, surely not unsure.gif


BRING A FRIEND-HO HO HO
mortonjag 2008-09-24 09:07:28 Well folks-spit it out!

What did HE say? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-24 09:09:23
QUOTE(Jim McInally @ Sep 24 2008, 07:58 AM) [snapback]517123[/snapback]
does that prove the size of the crowd ?

genuine question.



QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 24 2008, 08:05 AM) [snapback]517126[/snapback]
It always gives a fair indication imo.

It actually gives a fairly reliable indication in my experience.
mortonjag 2008-09-24 09:11:19
QUOTE(Jim McInally @ Sep 24 2008, 07:53 AM) [snapback]517121[/snapback]
Do you think so ?

You've kept that to yourself.

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mortonjag 2008-09-24 09:13:43
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 24 2008, 08:48 AM) [snapback]517155[/snapback]
Couldn't be anything to do with the 'manager' not having a clue and being brought in because he was used to working in a similar environment could it? Just asking because no-one in their right mind would ever have employed Irons. Just a thought.

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His tactics look a bit rusty.
mortonjag 2008-09-24 09:18:20
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 23 2008, 10:41 PM) [snapback]516907[/snapback]
I thought Weatherson was imense tonight.



I think he's lost weight TBH!
mortonjag 2008-09-24 09:33:34
QUOTE(EBu @ Sep 24 2008, 09:22 AM) [snapback]517175[/snapback]
Here's a thought, instead of having one of the best playing surfaces in Scottish football, why not just get a tractor to plow it all up and we'll plant some potatoes in it?

Lets face it, we aint using it to play passing football so why give the opposition the advantage?

Happens every other week.
mortonjag 2008-09-24 09:37:46 He's been criticised pretty roughly by quite a few posters-mainly on the grounds of being 'too wee', and of not commanding his box.

I reckon he put in a faultless performance last night against opponents from a higher league.
mortonjag 2008-09-24 09:40:31
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Sep 24 2008, 09:38 AM) [snapback]517179[/snapback]
Must have played himsefl into contention for a start on saturday against Dunfermline. His attitude was first class when he came on, and if he had replaced Wake rather than Russell last night I feel we may just have got something from that game dry.gif (Take note Mr Irons!)

I believe Peter and Jenks should have been brought on earlier. We could have won last night-it was a repeat of the too late substitutions against Partick.
mortonjag 2008-09-24 10:48:49
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 24 2008, 10:44 AM) [snapback]517203[/snapback]
im talking about the ' them and us ' situation that has risen more than once between the players and fans in the last few years, surely you're not so blind that you haven't noticed it. Its not hearsay, its reality.

You may like him personally, but there has been times where the players wouldnt even celebrate with the fans when we scored, there have been times when players have scored and made gestures at the fans as if to almost say " Get it right up ye " and then there have been times, including this season where players have shouted things at fans. The main culprit is Peter Weatherson and with his influence on the dressing room you would have to be pretty naive to not think that his own feeling of disharmony with the fans hasn't been passed on throughout the team.

And all this from someone who has wore the captains armband this season, along with Mcmanus who was wearing it when he called the fans wankers or whatever. Stuart Greacen has had far more criticism than all of them the last 3 years and handles himself brilliantly at all times, If Weatherson wanted to grow up a bit finally then he'd do well to take some advice from our real captain.


If Greacen's so bloody good and Weatherson's so bloody bad surely their attitudes to the fans should cancel each other out, and the players attitude should be 'normal'!
mortonjag 2008-09-24 10:52:10
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 24 2008, 10:40 AM) [snapback]517200[/snapback]
Still a bit nervy, but improving all the time. His distribution could use some work, but he's hardly alone in that.

Agree, and he tends to get sucked infield too easily. Given his age I reckon he shows enough talent to become a first rate full back.
mortonjag 2008-09-24 10:57:29
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Sep 24 2008, 10:49 AM) [snapback]517206[/snapback]
The Jag bites every hand unsure.gif

Lorry man is a very, very, very nice POUFFE! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-24 10:59:42 Discombobulated.
mortonjag 2008-09-24 11:19:38
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 24 2008, 11:02 AM) [snapback]517217[/snapback]
If Greacen had Weatherson's ability or Weatherson had Greacen's attitude then they'd be playing in the SPL at least.
It is a very small minority of fans who abuse players, why should everyone else have to suffer because of it? the players should realise this, and infact in every club in the country they do...except Morton. Morton fans love to play the victim when it comes to the club, and some players love to play the victim when it comes to the fans. Do you really think Weatherson would be getting the abuse he gets from some if he wasn't wasting his talent that would make him the best player at the club while sitting on his impressive new contract and pay rise?. He's been shortchanging the fans since we got promoted.
over the last three years he definetely has. Until the last few weeks of the season Greacen had been getting it non stop since we were in the second division, and by the time it came to the last few weeks of last season some of it was brutal. All that time he was still club captain and although you could plainly see the abuse he got from fans for his every touch had left his confidence so low that he was afraid to pass back to the goalkeeper or even take a touch, instead choosing to just kick the ball out the park, every interview he gave in newspapers he praised the fans and i remember at least one interview he said we had the best fans in the country, which took a lot of balls in my opinion, considering fans would groan everytime the ball went near him.

Port ton-I've said this before-it's easy to slate players but where is the actual evidence? I don't see You Tube videos of Spoonsy at his 'nonsense'. I've never seen any evidence on here. One poster once commented about having seen him desperate to get into the Bookies before a game but that's about it. I mean something like this might me more convincing than gossip:

'Here is a short clip of Peter leaving the pub very much 'the worse o' the wear' and entering the bookmakers. As you will see from the recorded time he should have been at training. The Club can confirm that he had 'phoned in sick' that morning. The close up clearly shows him placing a £500 bet on Morton's opponents in the forthcoming game-a game in which his performance was described as 'diabolical', scoring, as he did, six own goals.

He is subsequently seen entering the local brothel with a large Chinese carry out and a broad smile'.
mortonjag 2008-09-24 11:24:28
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 24 2008, 11:22 AM) [snapback]517234[/snapback]
Oh yeah, you're a great one to be lecturing anyone about 'lack of evidence', Mr-I-know-something really important-but-won't-say-what.

I know everything there is to know about MY Club Peter, as you very well know.
mortonjag 2008-09-24 11:28:36
QUOTE(big blue eyes @ Sep 24 2008, 11:27 AM) [snapback]517242[/snapback]
I wish you'd stop that. Every time i post anything you're trying to laugh at me.

Maybe you are jealous if you're a woman.

Mrs Ton is ALL woman son! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-24 11:43:53
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 24 2008, 11:25 AM) [snapback]517237[/snapback]
Only one line Douglas? I'm disappointed, I expect more from you.

Will you kindly address me as 'Boss', Peter, as I clearly AM your boss irrespective of what that Irons fellah may say or think, and I'm HIS Boss too, and come to think of it, I'm the Boss of everything and everybody who is remotely connected with Greenock Morton Football Club Ltd. and Golden Casket Ltd. the parent company- which made excellent profits last year and is going from strength to strength on the strength of the current credit crunch which sees folk having their three piece suites and cars re-possessed and buying confectionery as an excellent substitute, talking of which I thought that when the Jenkins boy came on as a substitute last night he showed without the remotest shadow of doubt the value of having two farmers sons in the squad, adding as it does indisputable strength to an already strong side which may currently be sitting at the bottom of the league as a result of an incomprehensible run of ill fortune, but is undoubtedly on the brink of a hitherto unmatched run, which will in all likelihood see us challenging for promotion to the SPL come the end of the year, and of which, of course, I am also the Boss.
mortonjag 2008-09-24 11:48:06
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 24 2008, 11:38 AM) [snapback]517253[/snapback]
I thought Harding did okay defensively until extra time.
No point hollering too much about slack distribution when no-one offers an option.

Nobody in the squad can match the precision of Harding's long diagonal balls! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-24 11:51:36
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 24 2008, 11:47 AM) [snapback]517260[/snapback]
I didn't mention Bookies or Alcohol, its other people that have those problems with him. Mine are based purely on a footballing level for what he could, but ultimately doesn't give to the team due to lack of fitness which short changes fans who pay to see him play well and in an ideal world score the goals that keep us in this division and for helping create a divide on more than one occassion between fans and players.

you don't need a youtube video of his lack of fitness or the more than one occassion he's made gestures/shouted something at the fans, despite it being a small minority of fans who boo or abuse him.

If he refuses to train properly I would smack his big pink botty.
mortonjag 2008-09-24 11:53:30
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 24 2008, 11:48 AM) [snapback]517262[/snapback]
Does babysitting my 11 month old son count for a reason not to attend.?

On the subject of crowd size, whether DDF is on the fiddle or not, get used to decreasing crowds as more people will find better things to do with thier money than pay to watch Morton at present.

Sit at home and watch fitba on the Telly with a big bag of sweeties!
mortonjag 2008-09-24 12:01:21
QUOTE(Honor Todd @ Sep 24 2008, 11:55 AM) [snapback]517272[/snapback]
You can ram it ya wee condescending baw sack.

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mortonjag 2008-09-24 12:09:05
QUOTE(big blue eyes @ Sep 24 2008, 12:05 PM) [snapback]517284[/snapback]
That's not witty.

You are a boring old creep, and it may be rude but i guess you've not had sex in years.

...and that's not remotely convincing. I reckon Mrs T has you spot on. I bet you'd just love to shag somebody like your imaginary Big Blue Eyes. rolleyes.gif

FREAK! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-24 12:16:26
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 24 2008, 12:06 PM) [snapback]517288[/snapback]
I love how people just completely forget him playing the whole of last season up front apart from the first two games, generally not moving from the spot he was standing in, to the point where he was dropped despite having very little in the way of a replacement.

His best season for us was at rightback, because he was under no pressure at all except in the odd game when he'd have a shocker against pacey left wingers. He's been found out up front at this level, and again it is all down to fitness and attitude.

You can't blame him being played out of position for his general pishness, he's played about 5 or 6 league games not upfront in the last season and a quarter.

edit to add: incidentally the first two games he played at right back last season he scored in.


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mortonjag 2008-09-24 12:18:01 Unfortunately it's much more than a 'team' which will be required before we have any chance of moving forward.
mortonjag 2008-09-24 12:22:43
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 24 2008, 12:06 PM) [snapback]517287[/snapback]
Nearly jag, I sat at home 'watching' Radio Scotlands open mic last night with a couple of beers. I stared at that screen for the entire show, I think I have burned the image into my retina. Was quite good patter though.

I could hear the crowd from Cappielow every time I went into my kitchen which didn't make it easier.

I was a little bit knotty last night. As we walked out right in front of Chick the Pr1ck I said in a stage whisper to my brother-'At least the midden got humped too'! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-24 12:27:14
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 24 2008, 11:31 AM) [snapback]517248[/snapback]
Will this be before or after you grasp the subtle difference between an online messageboard and a historical dissertation?

On line message board.
mortonjag 2008-09-24 12:31:49
QUOTE(Kekkoman @ Sep 24 2008, 12:26 PM) [snapback]517311[/snapback]
Did anyone else notice everytime we had a corner or a paartalu long throw, whoever was marking wake had him in a full nelson everytime. There is no way that sexual deviant mccurry didnt see it.

The Rev McCurry is hardly a sexual deviant, though some may see him as a bit of a swinger!


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mortonjag 2008-09-24 12:38:52
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Sep 24 2008, 12:27 PM) [snapback]517314[/snapback]
I thought moronjag was the hilarious one on here !

You don't understand hairy one.

'Hilarious' is his nickname-you know-like beermonkey is your real one.

Bartholomew Beermonkey LL.B.

'Arrested, charged, frightened you'll be caged for life?'

Phone Beermonkey and Partners and ask for beermonkey.

mortonjag 2008-09-24 12:49:01
QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Sep 24 2008, 12:47 PM) [snapback]517345[/snapback]
What!?

Finlayson was hilariously bad last night.
Another player who only played at the end of last season for a contract.

Baws-Kev always does his best.
mortonjag 2008-09-24 12:56:39
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 24 2008, 12:48 PM) [snapback]517348[/snapback]
Play well?
Wake was breathing out his arse after 50 minutes last night - I'd wager Weatherson would do likewise.
I find that unacceptable at this level.

We call that 'Flatus' in the Profession.

Would you prefer that name to SPARROT? smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-24 12:57:45
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 24 2008, 12:46 PM) [snapback]517342[/snapback]
Good smashing pumpkins song that!

Do you get a lunch break or are you wasting MY money?
mortonjag 2008-09-24 12:59:30
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 24 2008, 12:45 PM) [snapback]517341[/snapback]
Is Mj trying to groom VT? There's something quite disturbing about the way he reacts to every post. Or maybe VT is Gillian Donald and old Douglas is getting upset with the amount of time she's on here but can't tell her to get off as it would finally expose MJ? I need a lie down after that.

Who is VT?
mortonjag 2008-09-24 13:00:28
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 24 2008, 12:51 PM) [snapback]517352[/snapback]
As you can see Beermonkey, you are quite clearly wrong. tongue.gif

Beermonkey is always wrong.
mortonjag 2008-09-24 13:03:03
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 24 2008, 01:02 PM) [snapback]517367[/snapback]
i was 2 ph34r.gif

Missed you again last night!
mortonjag 2008-09-24 13:04:29
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 24 2008, 01:03 PM) [snapback]517369[/snapback]
Whatthef***isgoingonintheleaguewhenwecanplaygreatinthecupgames.

No question mark? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-24 13:11:28
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 24 2008, 01:06 PM) [snapback]517378[/snapback]
its a sign of madness rolleyes.gif

ph34r.gif laugh.gif

QUOTE(big blue eyes @ Sep 24 2008, 01:09 PM) [snapback]517387[/snapback]
unsure.gif

You'r crazy.There are loads of pictures of me and my Mum on the web.

Anyway it doesn't really matter. I.m getting fed up with this forum. If i'm not welcome I don't care.

Aye right son-'tits baws oot for the boys then! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-24 13:18:38
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 24 2008, 01:16 PM) [snapback]517399[/snapback]
So in best detective stylee, you are saying the Jag is also Big Blue Jugs? ohmy.gif

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mortonjag 2008-09-24 13:20:15
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 24 2008, 01:14 PM) [snapback]517395[/snapback]
I'd prefer you to do everyone a favour and shut up.
Possibly, Wake has faded badly in the 2nd half of recent games and there has to be a good explanation for it - if Wake is actually fit then woe betide Weatherson playing the same role...

You are not alone Flatus! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-24 13:21:45
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 24 2008, 01:19 PM) [snapback]517403[/snapback]
Please tell me i am wrong? ph34r.gif

Happy to oblige:


'You are wrong!' angel.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-24 13:23:12
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 24 2008, 01:05 PM) [snapback]517375[/snapback]
in the lounges again ph34r.gif

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Are you allowed to drink and drive? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-24 13:24:03
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 24 2008, 01:22 PM) [snapback]517407[/snapback]
you aint wrong

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mortonjag 2008-09-24 13:25:49
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 24 2008, 01:24 PM) [snapback]517414[/snapback]
So the Jag is sitting right now with 2 computers on, pretending to be a female on one of them? huh.gif

WOOD EYE? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-24 13:28:35
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 24 2008, 01:06 PM) [snapback]517379[/snapback]
Your boyfriend Vikington.

How dare you call me Vikington Peter, and I'll have you know I don't go in for boys!
mortonjag 2008-09-24 13:31:38
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Sep 24 2008, 01:30 PM) [snapback]517420[/snapback]
Nope, I was relieved when Russell got subbed. Right decision.

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mortonjag 2008-09-24 13:32:48
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 24 2008, 01:30 PM) [snapback]517422[/snapback]
you dont need 2 computers

Are you good at it?
mortonjag 2008-09-24 13:35:57
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 24 2008, 01:33 PM) [snapback]517428[/snapback]
laugh.gif never tried it but mods are all seeing tongue.gif

FFS-I am VERY embarrassed-never again shall I type with my willie in a glass of orage juice. blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-24 13:39:29
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 24 2008, 01:35 PM) [snapback]517431[/snapback]
Oh he was on a nostalgia trip last night, Hal Stewart, Benny Rooney, Mike Jackson, Big Andy, oh how he went on, and on, and on until a 12 year old St.Midden fan e-mailed in and asked what his registration plate was laugh.gif He was basically told he cannie be a midden fan if he likes Morton so much.

He is the biggest sycophant in Scottish Football, and one ugly Pishley c*nt to boot.
mortonjag 2008-09-24 13:42:26
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 24 2008, 01:21 PM) [snapback]517405[/snapback]
smokers in that area do my nut sleep.gif

laugh.gif

Not TOO close to the bogs!!!
mortonjag 2008-09-24 13:51:33
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Sep 24 2008, 01:45 PM) [snapback]517439[/snapback]
Yeah, totally agree. Kevin was my man of the match last night.

Mine too-my brothers were arguing about outfielders till I mentioned him, and they kinda looked surprised before agreeing with me.
mortonjag 2008-09-24 13:57:43
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 24 2008, 01:51 PM) [snapback]517448[/snapback]
did they still have the Caley Mac advert. I like that biggrin.gif

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mortonjag 2008-09-24 14:02:08
QUOTE(pgmsc @ Sep 24 2008, 01:56 PM) [snapback]517453[/snapback]
McInally got abuse for playing to many wee players in midfield Irons gets abuse for playing to many big guys in the middle of the park will we ever be happy? individual players are abused verbally at games not to say the abuse given to them on here and when anyone responds against the fans ie Jenkins/Weatherson they get even more abuse

Last night the 1st shout of abuse came from a guy beside in the cowshed as the players took the kick off

If only everyone was as perfect as the Morton fans.

Mr Rae seemed to clock that a wee while back.
mortonjag 2008-09-24 14:06:08
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 24 2008, 02:03 PM) [snapback]517465[/snapback]
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Cheer up-I'm away for ten minutes and I'm going to get that programme from the glove compartment. I'll carefully read your words of wisdom along with Mr Rae's words of the opposite.

Any problems while I'm away, and BBE will deal with them! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-24 14:42:24
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 24 2008, 02:29 PM) [snapback]517486[/snapback]
laugh.gif try under the managers bit ph34r.gif

STATS THE WAY I LIKE IT



by ME! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-24 14:49:26
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Sep 24 2008, 02:33 PM) [snapback]517493[/snapback]
Tsk, tsk, splitting your infinitives.......

Repeat after me, boy - "YOU MAY GO AWAY NOW".

Go and stand in the corner, and don't forget to wear the pointy hat.
(Oh I hope I haven't gone too far with the sarcasm there - he'll maybe report me to the Mods and try to get me banned!) dry.gif

Not a chance of that, though you may now feel free to explain your comment, and your misunderstanding of basic grammar. smile.gif

Alternatively you may feel free to do so now.
mortonjag 2008-09-24 14:59:17 I can assure you all that I will not stand for some of the inept performances individuals have shown this season and I will do everything in my power to improve things it's not really my fault at all because I didn't sign the players, and I don't coach the players, and I don't select the teams, and I'm not responsible for man-management and motivation, and really when it all boils down we'd be top of the league if they'd only do what Mr Rae tells them to do. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-24 15:07:37
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Sep 24 2008, 03:05 PM) [snapback]517527[/snapback]
Gone fishing ???

Only for opinions Chrissiboi!
mortonjag 2008-09-24 15:10:27
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Sep 24 2008, 02:51 PM) [snapback]517515[/snapback]
Not a chance of that, though you may now feel free to explain your comment, and your misunderstanding of basic grammar. smile.gif

Alternatively you may feel free to do so now.
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.......don't you mean "to now do so"?? tongue.gif

I mean that either seems fine to me! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-24 15:14:23 It's a question with an obvious answer. Stevenson would ideally fit the current set up-if motivated and on form.
mortonjag 2008-09-24 15:16:25
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Sep 24 2008, 02:42 PM) [snapback]517503[/snapback]
I see they haven't even bothered to spell your name correctly Bryan. Mind you what do you expect from a programme that had a picture of Jon Newby with the caption Jann Newby below it or in which the club's Chairman doesn't even bother to learn the name of the opposition or their manager. Apparently we were playing Inverness Caledonia last night and Hibs are managed by Mixu Paat.

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Could be he's forgotten. He's good at things like that.
mortonjag 2008-09-24 15:25:56
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Sep 24 2008, 03:18 PM) [snapback]517541[/snapback]
the boy aint been given a chance under Irons, if he's that big a motivator then if Irons cant get him going he is in the wrong job. as for form tell me a midfielder in the current team who has form apart from mcallister or motivated for that matter. granted masterton had a good game imo last night but the rest were cack

That's my concern about DI-when he arrived the reports were all coming back positive about how good he was in the motivational and coaching departments, but it's perfectly obvious that there has been some kind of problem, and I believe Davie is unable to accept genuine responsibility-at least in part-for our present plight.
mortonjag 2008-09-24 15:30:47
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Sep 24 2008, 03:25 PM) [snapback]517550[/snapback]
come on mj do you not think this hate campaign has gone long enough, its down to everyone at cappielow at the moment from the top to the bottom everything stinks. I hate going to cappielow just now, the team on the park aint playing, the management team are poor, the board and all about it tell us nothing and should accept some resposability and fix the issues...............what ever way.

If you mean my last comment about the Chairman, that was tongue in cheek.

I don't hate going to Cappielow, but it could be a lot better. I just don't like it when the Manager appears to be attempting to shift all the blame onto his players. Maybe he doesn't mean it to come out that way!
mortonjag 2008-09-24 15:37:35
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Sep 24 2008, 03:17 PM) [snapback]517540[/snapback]
I assume cos they need water to make the pastry and stuff.

DOH!
mortonjag 2008-09-24 15:45:04
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 24 2008, 03:39 PM) [snapback]517569[/snapback]
You having a senior moment Douglas? You were asking who VT was remember? He's Vikington. VIKINGTON. VIKINGTON. Can you hear me ok?

Oh yes Peter, I remember we had many Vikingtons, of whom Erik Sorensen was probably the best - a fine bunch of talented young men who graced the blue and white hoops although he was known as the man in black before I personally brokered the deal which saw him transferred to my son's favourite team for, as I re-call- about two millions.
mortonjag 2008-09-24 15:47:30
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 24 2008, 02:30 PM) [snapback]517489[/snapback]
in all seriousness smoking shouldnt be allowed near disabled toilets.

I'm sure you have a very good reason, and I'd guess I know the answer, but tell me why.
mortonjag 2008-09-24 15:53:31
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Sep 24 2008, 03:37 PM) [snapback]517566[/snapback]
imo they ALL every fickin last one of them from the top down need to put up or shut up, its all pure and utter manyaka on and off the park, get it sorted. all blame hounds from the chairman down.

Ah-I see where you're coming from now.

We're not going to get truth and honesty so long as the status quo exists. I've come to that conclusion. Lying, hypocrisy, and treating the fans like vegetables seems to be the order of the day, and as you correctly suggest, it pervades the club.

HMM! mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-24 16:14:46
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 24 2008, 03:56 PM) [snapback]517581[/snapback]
Can only access the board during my breaks happy.gif

Are you spending my money prudently?
mortonjag 2008-09-24 16:18:06
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 20 2008, 10:48 PM) [snapback]515360[/snapback]
Gidday Bryan,

another month has passed.

any news yet please ?

Bryan's been about today-Newt-maybe he has you 'on ignore'!
mortonjag 2008-09-24 16:24:15
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 24 2008, 04:16 PM) [snapback]517590[/snapback]
I am trying my utmost sir. Of course the first payday was spent on a few things I badly needed ie trainers that don't have holes in them.

After this I will be working on getting out of my overdraft. Then after that saving for Christmas. After that finally learning to drive.

Prudence is a basic characteristic of accounts remember smile.gif

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mortonjag 2008-09-24 16:27:42
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 24 2008, 04:20 PM) [snapback]517596[/snapback]
as you know a fair number of wheelchair users have breathing issue and smoke doesnt help

I agree. How far away do you think the smokers should be to render the air reasonably innocuous?
mortonjag 2008-09-24 18:51:32
QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Sep 24 2008, 04:32 PM) [snapback]517610[/snapback]
I would love to say yay or nay Donga, but i was in Ibiza when we played Hibs, so missed that cracker! Typical that i managed to miss one of our most exciting games in recent years. Mind you, worst places to be than Ibiza!
I also thought Wakey had a good game (not outstanding, but good) last night, can't understand why some on here are slating him for last night.

Frustration and the need to find a scapegoat?
mortonjag 2008-09-24 18:56:56 ]


QUOTE(DongaTon @ Sep 24 2008, 06:52 PM) [snapback]517692[/snapback]
Read on, smartarse.
I think it is relevant to bring him up again at this juncture. We lack creativity and an eye for goal - he has both in abundance. He brought other players into the game - he complemented Temps well, etc.
As said above, he's now older, wiser, bigger, stronger. I think we need to make inroads now to try and make this happen, why not broker the deal now in prep for Jan.

If he's really wiser he won't touch Morton with a bargepole, and that's not to say I wouldn't want him at Cappielow.
mortonjag 2008-09-24 19:17:17
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Sep 24 2008, 06:46 PM) [snapback]517685[/snapback]
unfortunately mortonjag you cant pin this one on dougie, its irons fault, ok it was dougie who employed him but he did come with a track record so i cant see how you can put it down to dougie. Irons has lost the plot completely.

Since you've chosen to bring it up, it is ultimately Rae's fault. HE and only HE signed Irons, and if you have any decency, honesty, and sense of logic you'll admit that they make good bedfellows in the 'losing the plot completely' stakes.

QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 24 2008, 06:52 PM) [snapback]517691[/snapback]
Wouldn't go that far. Still a lot of work to do though.

Though do agree with you that MJ's attempts to pin this all on himself DDFR is laughable (as was his thread 'claiming' that losing to an SPL team would be extremely damaging to his the Chairman's tenure).

Extremely damaging to his tenure! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

I said he would still be in charge. I merely pointed out that losing last night would deprive him of his last chance of a stay of execution in terms of credibility. 'Tonight, however, we have the opportunity to put our league worries behind us' he claimed in the programme.

Well we didn't-did we?

A defeat by Dunfermline on Saturday would add even more heat to the already simmering pot of discontent.

When it finally penetrates the Chairman's skull that HE is actually being blamed for his crass incompetence, expect to see the current management team disappear like snow off a dyke.

Then again, we may have bottomed out, and be about to start climbing the league. We have enough ability within the squad to end up mid-table-I've never thought otherwise. That would enhance Mr Irons currently low standing with the fans.

mortonjag 2008-09-24 19:25:44
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Sep 24 2008, 06:51 PM) [snapback]517687[/snapback]
Either of those two to be honest except I would have Stewart in goals instead of Cuthbert. Once again he was inept at dealing with cross balls as he has been all season. Good at kicking, shot stopping and sweeping up behind the defence, but a keeper who can't deal with a cross inside his six yard box is not much use.

I've watched Stewart at least half a dozen times and cannot believe how timid he is for such a tall man. He repeatedly stands rooted to the spot on his goal line or starts to come out only to change his mind. I've been singularly unimpressed by that, he appears to be as jittery as a box of jumping beans, and his kicking is keech.

Cuthbert may lack a couple of big banana feet's inches, but last night was a classic example of controlling his box. When he had to punch clear, he did so, and did so effectively.

I normally agree with most of your opinions, and I just can't see where you're coming from on this one! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-24 19:28:18
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Sep 24 2008, 07:10 PM) [snapback]517717[/snapback]
Anyone who honestly thinks that Wake was brilliant last night must also consider Dominic Shimmin as a God among mere mortals, and wholly expect to see him ascend into Heaven on Saturday from the hallowed Cappielow turf in a blaze of blue and white fire, with the tune of 'Live is Life' in the background.

Why?
mortonjag 2008-09-24 19:45:57
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 24 2008, 07:23 PM) [snapback]517734[/snapback]
Are you seriously suggesting that last night's result means that DDFR now has ZERO credibility?

Nice fishing trip, not gonna catch anything here though. laugh.gif

He's had zero credibility with me for at least three seasons. His credibility with the majority of posters now seems extremely low.

You may very well find him credible Naitch.

Indeed I invite you to cite your reasons!
mortonjag 2008-09-24 19:50:17
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Sep 24 2008, 07:41 PM) [snapback]517751[/snapback]
Add me to the list. Similarly, my 'associates' have no issues with the player. I sometimes wonder if Peter thinks that the kangaroo court of Greenockmorton.org (aka weans world) is representative of the fanbase.

Like yourself Forza, I don't believe so.

What is an out of towner supposed to believe? On one hand we have a hard core of posters who repeatedly allude to Spoonsy's Sodom and Gomorrah lifestyle, while others including your good self have 'no issues with him'!

I believe him to be an excellent striker. I just wish he'd get back to striking.
mortonjag 2008-09-25 08:49:53
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 24 2008, 07:59 PM) [snapback]517773[/snapback]
How many Spin Doctors did you have working on that post? rolleyes.gif


Spin, perhaps, Naitch, but not so bad as evading my legitimate question, which I shall repeat for you.

What evidence would you care to cite in support of your suggestion that Mr Rae still has some credibility with the fans? It's possibly a more important question than you appreciate at the moment.


QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Sep 25 2008, 12:16 AM) [snapback]517889[/snapback]
i know your not one for providing genuine proof about things tongue.gif but any chance you could guide me to that poll?


I believe the Rae sycophants have already performed their mass suicide. I understand the ceremonial 'going away kiss' was something to behold- a large and perfectly formed circle of blue woad painted naked bodies with each tongue lovingly caressing the arse in front. Then followed the mass ingestion of strychnine laced Fudgy Wudgys to the muted strains of 'Live is Life'

I expect the sycophant club forgot to send out your invitation! laugh.gif

What evidence would you care to cite in support of your apparent belief that Mr Rae still has any credibility with the fans.

After the Thistle game on 26th April I commented that Rae had a brass neck to join the players on the pitch BECAUSE he had refused to sack McInally, but then was appearing to be taking all the credit as usual.

At the time you wished me 'a slow and painful death'.
Your comment was ignored by the Mods though several posters were surprised at your apparent 'vehemence'.

I don't miss the significance of comments like that Doc, whether they are made by yourself, or Shimmin Ton, or Mabawsa Ritchie, or Russell's Muscles, or any of the others who resent criticism of their paymaster.

Rae's credibility with the fans has gone. It is simply a matter of time till something 'gives'. Crowds at Cappielow are dropping off at an alarming rate, the 'feel good factor' has long disappeared from the shed, folk are posting every day that they can no longer be bothered, season tickets are being offered for sale for buttons, and Big Doc asks Mortonjag for PROOF that Rae has lost credibility.

Is it time to 'out' yourself Doc? Surely you can't just be an ordinary fan who is thick enough to cross swords with Mortonjag. You should really know better. After all, you're not THAT bright, are you? wub.gif

Nope-I reckon you're another insider weasel. Indeed I challenge you to PROVE you are not. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-25 09:32:41
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Sep 25 2008, 08:54 AM) [snapback]517947[/snapback]
Why?

Because they gave up in despair of course! rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 25 2008, 08:57 AM) [snapback]517949[/snapback]
Hmmmm, a post of two halves. Completely agree with the first half but you do shoot yourself in the fudgywudgys in the second by asking for proof that someone is who they say they are whilst hiding behind a false name and making unproven claims about the club and how it's run. I think if he shows you his, you should show him yours. So to speak.


Ah-the ongoing annoyance of those who resent exclusion! Non-publication was the correct decision Peter. All documents are available for inspection as and when Mortonjag and the several others with access deem that appropriate.


You are getting confused with your parallels. Mortonjag merely invited the other Doc to confirm or deny that he is yet another insider weasel. The reason is that his postings bear a striking similarity to standard weasel attacks. Mortonjag's identity is well known and has been posted on this forum on more than one occasion by said weasels!!! laugh.gif

He may simply be one of the few misguided fools who still think Mortonjag's some decrepit old fud dragging a bust catheter bag about a run down and urine sodden Glasgow Nursing Home. I'm sure he'll keep us posted.

At least you know exactly who I am Peter! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-25 09:53:23
QUOTE(Edinton @ Sep 25 2008, 08:38 AM) [snapback]517937[/snapback]
It's there to protect this site as much as anything, to avoid the owner (me technically) or the host (tontastic) being help liable for anything slanderous (for example) being posted about the club, or about anyone (or thing) to be honest.

If it's something that's a matter of opinion then that's fine. If it's something that actually happened and can be corroborated by others then that's different. Whether the club will approve of it being posted is something completely different - I'm sure they love most of the topics that are about them anyway!

If you are unsure about anything being posted and then taken down then feel free to run it past me, Tontastic or Bryan first for approval. Hope that helps?

(I've not been on much recently so if you've PM'd me or reported something to me and I haven't replied then I apologise....work has been absolutely MENTAL and I've been away the last couple of weekends so I haven't had a great deal of time to catch up.)

I don't quite follow that.

Anything which is clearly posted by an individual as AN OPINION, is not actionable in any way. Neither Tontastic or yourself could be successfully sued for the opinions of others. Free speech is a luxury we still have in Scotland-though on this forum I sometimes question that!!! laugh.gif

If something has happened (at, or to the Club) and any poster chooses to publicise on the forum details (of which he has incontrovertible evidence and for which he has first hand corroboration) the Club could attempt to sue Tontastic, yourself, or that poster till it was blue in the face!!!

Publicising information which might be, or might be construed to be 'damaging' to the Club is not against the law-providing it is true.

Gary Glitter, I'm sure, must have bitterly resented many of the truthful statements made about his detrimental behaviour.



BTW Edinton-I'd like to stick my big brown tongue right up your arse to your tonsils, and say you have been sorely missed.

Well I've missed you anyway! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-25 10:02:56
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Sep 25 2008, 09:54 AM) [snapback]517967[/snapback]
It's sad that so much hope, expectation and good will that was generated from our return from the death has so quickly disappeared as one poor manager follows another, players are rewarded for underachievement and the board look more an more out of touch with any form of reality. The fans can do their bit but they are only one piece of the jigsaw.



WOW


What a perfect summary of the status quo!



mortonjag 2008-09-25 11:05:05
QUOTE(Edinton @ Sep 25 2008, 10:34 AM) [snapback]517980[/snapback]
I guess the point I was trying to make was the difference between opinion and fact. It's a fact that 'player x' plays for Morton but it's my opinion that he's not a footballer, for example.

If it's a fact that something happened after that game, and that by posting the details then tontastic, me, the forum, can't be held responsible legally then fair enough. If I don't like it, or perhaps the club was to strongly object to it being made available, then I'd have to look at it and make a decision.

That make sense?

And welcome back indeed, one reply from you = one PM'd complaint rolleyes.gif

Only in the sense that it proves that what is published here is ultimately liable to be censored on the basis of you or Tontastic believing you are doing so to the advantage of our club!

If posters thought that the Club was 'able to interfere' PURELY to avoid legitimate criticism, they might begin to talk of divided loyalties.

Perhaps you'd like to comment on the number of complaints Mortonjag has made in global terms! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-25 11:08:57
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 25 2008, 11:01 AM) [snapback]517997[/snapback]
The idea that one's freedom of speech trumps a board operator's right to run a site as he/she sees fit is a stupid one.

...and the idea that a board operator could continue to run a successful site if posters were repeatedly denied the right to voice opinion is equally stupid-something to which you have indirectly alluded already.
mortonjag 2008-09-25 11:10:36
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 25 2008, 11:07 AM) [snapback]518002[/snapback]
I can only speak for when I ran the site and not what goes on now, but:

I can state honestly that, while obviously the club were unhappy with some stuff that was posted on the site, only on a tiny, tiny handful of occasions did they ask for anything to be removed - I think three times. Once was when Jim McInally was being called "Jim the Tim", and I can't remember the other two. Anything pertaining to DDF or the overall stewardship of the club, they didn't ask me about.

I don't think the club really bothers much with this rag.
mortonjag 2008-09-25 11:15:30
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 25 2008, 11:00 AM) [snapback]517995[/snapback]
You and I understand each perfectly Douglas. wink.gif

Indeed Peter, and as you know I've sloped off for a couple of weeks to my wee hidey hole, just as I did after JM walked. The weather here's not too bad-dry with the sun threatening to break through.

Every cloud has a silver lining.

Yours aye


Douglas.
mortonjag 2008-09-25 11:18:38
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 25 2008, 11:12 AM) [snapback]518008[/snapback]
It's true - the level of censorship on this site is incredible. Sometimes I wonder if I'm on the Morton board or if I've been transported back in time to the German Democratic Republic!

I imagine they are targeting you. Perhaps they feel insecure to have such a well qualified ex Moderator on board. I have had no problem with censorship.
mortonjag 2008-09-25 11:23:36
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Sep 25 2008, 11:02 AM) [snapback]517998[/snapback]
Agreed ! A lot of people who received formal emails or letters from Messr Scott threatening legal action for our expressed opinions on an internet notice board have learned our lessons.

There has been a bucket load of issues that have gone on at Cappielow in the last couple of years that are well known to people - but that info has not been bandied about willy nilly - for two reasons I would guess.

1) The experiences of the past have taught a lot of people a lot of things. Softly softly catchy monkey being one of them.

2) There are no end of people on this board who (through either blind loyalty/blind ignorance/blind hope) don't want to accept any of the bad news or events that are unfolding at the club - stretching back years - and those people do nothing but throw rocks at the info they receive - so most of us have just stopped bothering. What's going on is what's going on. It is what it is. And those who shared info like this over the years continue to do that with people we know and trust who won't come blabbing on to the board or immediatley dismissing the facts out of hand.

When the truth comes out - as it invariably will - on all manner of matters in the last few years - there will be a lot of people both surprised, and I think disappointed at the extent of what's been going on.

For the meantime, feel free to reply with the "you're talking s***e", "only the in crowd know", "you can all f*** off", "it's a load of pish" etc etc.

It is what it is.

TonInDublin

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mortonjag 2008-09-25 11:26:07
QUOTE(nach0king @ Sep 25 2008, 11:19 AM) [snapback]518015[/snapback]
Hypothetically if anyone did have a problem with the censorship it would take them just a few minutes to set up, say, a blogspot account like the one that JonaTon's excellent site is run on.

'Tis the epitome of journalistic excellence.

JonaTon has no official capacity at the Club has he?
mortonjag 2008-09-25 11:32:27
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Sep 25 2008, 11:26 AM) [snapback]518019[/snapback]
dont know where to start on this one, the slow and painful death thing was removed by myself 30 seconds after posting, one of those heat of the moment moments. Since then i have been willing to apologise for the comment now i will sorry
I cant remember the last time i was a 'fan' of dougie, to the extent that the avatar i have is not exactly 'pro' dougie.
My paymaster is hewden crane hire
As for being think and not very bright that all depends how that you would define it, did i go to uni? no. do i hold down a highly responsible technical job ? yes. you decide.
This thing about outing myself, i,m 6' 4", stand at the back of the cowshed just slightly to the sinclair st end of the half way line beside the pow guys. I go to most away games with my 2 kids and anyone who knows me calls me big doc surprisingly enough. My only connection with the club is as a supporter, although i do have good contacts within the club cool.gif and i know what happened on the sunday tongue.gif

I already knew most of that Doc. There isn't much Mortonjag doesn't know, and his contacts and sources are generally very reliable.

You're a good guy who has the future of the club at heart-JUST AS MORTONJAG DOES.

Maybe the time has come as a responsible adult to dissociate yourself from the now pointlessly childish game of 'Jag baiting'. It does not become a man of your maturity. Leave it to the remaining hard core of 'infants' who have clearly no perception of any kind beyond their next meal and the hope that one day they will 'get their hole'.
mortonjag 2008-09-25 12:47:24
QUOTE(EBu @ Sep 25 2008, 11:59 AM) [snapback]518033[/snapback]
Thats all fine by me, however I think people need to make a decision either way. Either keep it to yourself and your trusted friends or come out and say it.

As someone whose main link to finding out about Morton is this board its incredibly frustrating to have snippets of information, followed by 20 posts of nudge nudge wink wink.

As I say I think you are absolutely correct to keep information to yourself if thats your perogative, however dont dangle a carrot then pull it away.

It's neither dangling a carrot, nor was it ever intended that way EBu.

Posters are entirely at liberty to comment on privileged information without breaching confidentiality. That is ENTIRELY DIFFERENT from deliberately spreading unfounded rumours.

As Barbie and others have commented, if you are trusted by others, p.m. them.

This forum is not at any given time populated entirely by people who have the genuine interests of Morton at heart. TiD has alluded to some of the reasons why. We appear to have almost reached the revolution stage regarding the crass incompetence of the secret society at Scapa. This is a time when the remaining Rae satellites will attempt even harder to adulterate our forum with their undercover filth.

'I know something but I'm not telling' (any Tom Dick or Harry) is sometimes the only available course of action.

mortonjag 2008-09-25 12:57:09
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 25 2008, 12:18 PM) [snapback]518040[/snapback]
an option you could have added was chucking away games...

We're getting good at that!

QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Sep 25 2008, 12:44 PM) [snapback]518061[/snapback]
I'll never chuck it I don't think. It's in my blood now. My going to games has so little to do with the football on the park now, it's the connection I have with the club. Hard to put it into words I suppose.

Those are also my feelings. I'm a Morton supporter-not a supporter of players, Managers, or Board members.

As a wee aside, every time there has been criticism of the establishment, the argument has been trotted out that this forum is 'not truly representative of Morton fans'.

If the early poll results are anything to go on, it looks as if the forum members ARE the true Morton fans. The rest prefer to vote with their feet.
mortonjag 2008-09-25 13:02:21
QUOTE(Savo @ Sep 24 2008, 11:21 PM) [snapback]517869[/snapback]
That's a wee bit harsh mj, no one is perfect but I think Chick does actually have a genuine soft spot for Morton and has spoken about it often enough.

During the Save The Ton campaign he went well above and beyond the call of duty for us by turning out for Dukla Pumpherston in the challenge game against supporters before we played the St Mirren fundraiser @ Cappielow.

His son had just died in the motorbike accident but the game had been arranged beforehand, and the guy insisted he still wanted to turn up and help Morton out. I remember sending him a thank-you letter as STT secretary for doing that at such a difficult time.

He also wrote supportive articles on the BBC to highlight the club's plight at the time as well - and I think he is a member of your favourite supporters' organisation, the GMST (well he certainly was at one time anyway). I think he's a decent guy whose heart is in the right place.

Chick is in my opinion a complete and utter fud who is a past master of the art of winning approbation when it suits him.
mortonjag 2008-09-25 13:17:59
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Sep 25 2008, 07:13 AM) [snapback]517928[/snapback]
McGowan IS, or certainly WAS, realistic. Don't be petty. We very nearly had him permanently.

Rae spent the whole of that closed season utterly obsessed with the notion that he only had to sign Gowsa and all would be well with the boys who were 'going to take us forward'.

Even when it became obvious that Celtic were playing 'silly buggers', he pursued his obsessive goal, to rare criticism from Jim McInally.

Many things happened (or perhaps 'didn't happen') during that closed season. Several opportunities were either blown or scorned.

I'd love a player like Gowsa in the squad NOW-we DESPERATELY need a play maker. Chris Millar could be doing the job, if he hadn't been pissed on from on high. Jamie Stevenson's original form at Alloa suggests that he is still capable of fulfilling the role, but he too is a 'persona non grata' midget!

We have fully three months before the transfer window re-opens, and a week is a long time in football. It just seems a bit premature to be discussing this. I'm much more interested in things like who will be our Manager in a month's time, and when will we hear the truth about Alistair Donald, and will Rae finally pack it in before it's too late.
mortonjag 2008-09-25 13:41:47
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Sep 25 2008, 01:09 PM) [snapback]518085[/snapback]
are you the real mj ? how can you say that... that is completely stupid to assume that the REAL fans are the forum members... I canty belive that is really you is it mj... are you on holiday and letting the wife post ?????

Aye it's really me warrior!

All I'm suggesting is that the real FANS tend to use the forum-the crazy mad FANATICS who will keep going to matches even if we're losing every one, because they're FANS.

There are plenty of 'more sensible' Morton supporters I'd imagine. I just prefer to be in the crazy gang, and given that almost everybody can access the internet nowadays I DO believe that this forum is strongly representative of true FANS. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-25 13:59:04
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Sep 25 2008, 01:32 PM) [snapback]518098[/snapback]
Two points......IF chris was pi55ed on from above it certainly wasnt the club...get your facts right, which leads me to point 2..yur sig!!!! the " dont they hate us when we tell the truth.."should be changed to " I really know fck all about fck all, but cannae keep my effin gub shut cause am a cannae auld tosser and am nae satisfied till av moaned ma festerin mooth aff aboot every issue possible...relevant or not!!!! blah blah blah.."
thats better.. rolleyes.gif

What a strange post Vader. Why do I have this terribly uncomfortable feeling that YOU think you know more than me just because you are perhaps party to a little inside information.

The truth is Vader that I know a hell of a lot more than 'f*ck all' about 'goings on' and you, my good chap, resent that. mad.gif

I'd like you to PROVE that Chris was not 'pissed on' since you challenge my opinion which is based on information I received from a reliable source at the time of the original transfer negotiations, and refers to specific aspects of Chris's contract.

Telling me that you are Mr Rae's love child, Donkey Dave's stable boy, Shimmin Ton's apprentice keech shoveller, Mabawsa Ritchie's manuensis, or indeed that you recently shagged some Club employee just won't wash I'm afraid.

Everything I've ever stated I can prove, and will, as and when I deem that either appropriate or necessary.

I object to your type of posting at this stage-it is unhelpful, and will be perceived as exactly what it is-another unwarranted and vicious attack on one poster by another who hates him when he tells the truth. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-25 14:15:25
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Sep 25 2008, 01:05 PM) [snapback]518080[/snapback]
ffs , and I thought you were the knight in shining armour who spoke out in order for the truth to be heard by ALL morton fans, so what now MJ.. are you so satisfied with the numbers on here who agree with you now, that you dont want to upset the apple cart... if YOU know something I would have expected YOU to let us all know, but I am dissapointed in you if in fact you do know and are afraid now to speak out in the open as you have ALWAYS asked others to do previously... I dont know anyone on this board, so tell me then who would trust me ? no one would, but I as a fan would like to know whats going on, if it is as is made out on this thread so bloody big...

It's perfectly simple warrior! I have perhaps been a little outspoken now and again, but all of the information I have is from trusted sources, and not based on personal involvement. For that reason I regard it as proper that I leave the divulging of information to them, as and when they see fit, OR if they authorise me to release it, I certainly will.

QUOTE(EBu @ Sep 25 2008, 01:07 PM) [snapback]518083[/snapback]
I'm really not berating folk for holding onto their info, I think they are doing the right thing. However I just don€™t see the need to divulge that something happened on such and such a date then go silent on the matter. I don€™t feel it is conductive to this board in general.

All thats happened now is that us not in the know are concerned that something highly significant has happened and we have no way of finding out.

As for sending someone a PM, in truth I know no-one on this board personally. I messaged another member and was told to ask someone else and that is fair enough as he doesn't know me from Adam.

End of the day I am just a concerned fan who wants to know whats happening at my club.

Have another read at Tid's original posting.

If this forum merely and genuinely represented all colours of Morton fan opinion-and debate is healthy-much more would be 'out in the open' The fact is that the establishment resents the very existence of our massage board, and it is infiltrated with 'spies' and troublemakers.

Have a look at the Gowsa thread. You will see exactly what I mean! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-25 14:21:41
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Sep 25 2008, 01:50 PM) [snapback]518117[/snapback]
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I guess that means that Dougie has nothing to fear about crowds dropping off then since the board which is almost fully representative of the Morton support says they'll keep going no matter what.

What a bizarre and illogical comment! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-25 14:31:11
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Sep 25 2008, 01:04 PM) [snapback]518076[/snapback]
I am more than willing to prove my hetero credentials with MrsTon wub.gif

Having a ginormous willie and baws like grapefruits proves nothing! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-25 14:33:08
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 24 2008, 04:43 PM) [snapback]517616[/snapback]
the exit gate

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QUOTE(Boozehound @ Sep 25 2008, 01:51 PM) [snapback]518118[/snapback]
Is smoking not bad for you?

Not if you are already dead. Many of the inhabitants of my cellar have been subjected to smoke.
mortonjag 2008-09-25 14:37:25 It's not art but it's damned CRAFTY! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-25 14:39:46
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 24 2008, 05:54 PM) [snapback]517644[/snapback]
No, I was suggesting that Vikington was your boyfriend. You know Vikington? He's the guy you've been sparring with lately. I said SPARRING WITH!! Have you got your hearing aid in? I SAID HAVE YOU GOT YOUR HEARING AID IN??????

EH
mortonjag 2008-09-25 14:46:41
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 25 2008, 11:14 AM) [snapback]518010[/snapback]
ys without derisory pay offers from your employer. It's a big slap in the face to the workers.
ohmy.gif Shocking statement mate. I must inform you that we also have electricity, and central heating wink.gif

....and Mortonjag who once went on strike! FACT.
mortonjag 2008-09-25 14:54:30
QUOTE(ton5saints1 @ Sep 25 2008, 02:40 PM) [snapback]518149[/snapback]
Maybe going off in a tangent a wee bit, but re the 'bring a friend' look at the prices for the Arsenal v Sheffield United cup game the other night - tenner for adults and a fiver for kids.
Maybe some sort of incentive like this, or the Thistle under 16s free entry, would boost the crowd.

Indeed!

It now seems a VERY long time since I heard the argument in support of Rae that 'He's an experienced businessman'.

I see the Trust just chucked him another (albeit small) donation which will be swallowed up as though he has a God given right to it, and of course he has absolutely no interest in a properly set up Youth System, when he'll be pushing up the daisies before it kicks in properly! dry.gif

He's been frightening off his paying customers for far too long. The tide turned some time ago and he still can't see it.

mortonjag 2008-09-25 14:58:19
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Sep 25 2008, 02:36 PM) [snapback]518146[/snapback]
Sent that PM tae the wrong place.. blush.gif

No need to blush-I have a little chamber which will comfortably accommodate your luggage!
mortonjag 2008-09-25 14:59:29 Scrabble-educational and non confrontational (normally!!!).
mortonjag 2008-09-25 15:34:54
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 25 2008, 03:20 PM) [snapback]518174[/snapback]
Details??

I KNEW you'd ask. We withdrew our labour for one day when Medical Examiners at the Benefits Agency hadn't been paid by the new agency bosses. The cheques were in the post within a few hours. They had been 'at it' for two months. dry.gif

Only one pathetic creature refused to 'walk out'. His allocation of 'cases' dwindled away to nothing in a matter of weeks! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-25 15:39:25
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 25 2008, 03:30 PM) [snapback]518176[/snapback]
I have received a few PMs today about 31 August.

At least that is an improvement on people posting that they could not PM me.

However, to those of you who PMed today, I need to apologise, as it seems that I have upset someone/something.

The error returned was:

You are not allowed to use the messenger feature on this board.

ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

sad.gif sad.gif

You ARE using it if you're receiving-it's a glitch with your sending. Is your 'sent messages' box full? Check with Edinton! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-25 15:41:45
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 25 2008, 03:37 PM) [snapback]518179[/snapback]
I tend to play it with the wee coloured discs.
/coat

Wee coloured circular coat?
mortonjag 2008-09-25 15:43:25
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 25 2008, 03:41 PM) [snapback]518182[/snapback]
you have an email - sent 20 minutes ago.

I already said 'No'! I've gone off that kind of thing since I met port ton.
mortonjag 2008-09-25 16:02:21
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 25 2008, 03:49 PM) [snapback]518184[/snapback]
How long ago was this MJ?

Eight years or so. The parent company at the time was a French outfit called SEMA!
mortonjag 2008-09-25 16:09:10
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Sep 25 2008, 03:51 PM) [snapback]518186[/snapback]
I must say young Monkey has been looking very smart lately but he seems to have aged somewhat? mellow.gif

He has simply been unmasked! blush.gif

QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 25 2008, 03:53 PM) [snapback]518188[/snapback]
sad.gif

That's very cruel, mortonjag.

Very, very cruel.

I know that Port Ton is far closer to you than I.
... 10,524 miles closer.


And I cannot even work out when he/she is male and when he/she is female.

How am I supposed to compete ?

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And he/she is probably younger than I as well.

And the Ton have not won a league match all season - woe is I.

sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif


Don't take it personally Newt-I've knocked back Beermonkey eight times and he still pesters me!
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Sep 25 2008, 03:55 PM) [snapback]518189[/snapback]
It's kinda late in Oz to be posting at this time Mr Question mark boy!
I've decided I don't give a f*ck about the wee boys and their story. At the end of the day anyone can say they know something then just sit back until something does happen......and then shout out "I told you so".

I'll continue too turn up at Cappielow with the blinkers on to support my shi**y team...

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mortonjag 2008-09-25 16:10:15
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Sep 25 2008, 04:08 PM) [snapback]518196[/snapback]
laugh.gif soul of course, your PM arrived but I can't get a reply off to you cobber!

Cobbler?
mortonjag 2008-09-25 16:13:32
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Sep 25 2008, 04:12 PM) [snapback]518200[/snapback]
Has he only got one? Do you walk with a limp Newt? happy.gif

I jog with a one legged frog.
mortonjag 2008-09-25 16:23:56
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 25 2008, 04:17 PM) [snapback]518203[/snapback]
Gidday 44 Tonne,

Only after one of my 3 day iyengar yoga retreats in the Hunter Valley.

Last one, there were 14 yogis ... and I was the token male.

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Oh c'mon Newt-yer baws may be half the size they once were and yer willie a mere worm compared to that wondrous phallus of your youth but 'token male'?
You've still got plenty on offer!





































BTW-did you shag all fouteen? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-25 16:29:20
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 25 2008, 04:26 PM) [snapback]518205[/snapback]
Certainly
not !!!

A few of them play for the other team.

Not that there is anything wrong with that.

And I am not into conversions.

At least not since I played rugger at the Academy.

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We played RUGBY at the Grammar! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-25 16:38:36
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 25 2008, 04:36 PM) [snapback]518210[/snapback]
You are just trying to upset me even more.

The thought of you in your Paisley strip.

wub.gif wub.gif

Get off to your hussy.

mad.gif mad.gif
And please answer my email before you leave to see him/her.

8 a.m tomorrow our time-if that's OK! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-25 17:12:47
QUOTE(btb @ Sep 25 2008, 01:53 PM) [snapback]518121[/snapback]
As a neutral outsider cool.gif who likes to keep an eye on Morton & Div. 1 (just in case) I reckoned David Irons was a poor choice as a manager and intial results didn't convince me that I was wrong.

A couple of late season wins against Dunfermline & PT who were safely mid-table by then didn't convince me otherwise. A poor start to the season (in the league anyway) and I see questions are being asked about Irons again.

Your chairman, Rae has a record of being loyal to his managers however after the Dunfermline game Morton have the double header with Ross County to end the first quarter followed by a home game against Clyde. If Morton are still bottom after these games would Morton fans want DI and/or Derek Collins sacked? Would a Challenge Cup Final place give him breathing space in this eventuality?



As a neutral outsider you obviously have failed to grasp the fact that Morton fans would let the Chairman piss in their mouths without batting an eyelid.

David Irons is the best thing since sliced bread. Don't be fooled by the lowly league position-it's a ruse to throw neutral outsiders off the scent. Come February we'll be challenging for promotion, or I have a gangrenous left goolie.
mortonjag 2008-09-25 17:15:06
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 25 2008, 05:00 PM) [snapback]518219[/snapback]
sorted that for you. smile.gif

What age does one have to be to become one of those twats?.
mortonjag 2008-09-25 17:18:13
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 25 2008, 05:16 PM) [snapback]518228[/snapback]
Is that not taught in medical school at proper universities ?

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They never mentioned twats Newt-do they grow in mountains which have conveniently shrunk to molehill proportions?
mortonjag 2008-09-25 17:20:11
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 25 2008, 05:19 PM) [snapback]518233[/snapback]
Australia ?

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Shimmin Ton?
mortonjag 2008-09-25 17:28:58
QUOTE(ShimminTon @ Sep 25 2008, 05:21 PM) [snapback]518235[/snapback]
Why would they know? huh.gif

1. Nach0 isn't a Mod.
2. Edinton has abandoned his duties.

You stick to commenting about Cappielow and leave judgements on the performance of our excellent Moderators to me!

Edinton has NEVER abandoned his duties. I have carefully scanned his contract of employment with himself and assure you you are making a mountain out of a molehill.

Does your contract of employment to Mr Rae oblige you to attempt to defend the Club against the indefensible?
mortonjag 2008-09-25 18:01:34
QUOTE(Whiteman In Govanhill @ Sep 25 2008, 05:31 PM) [snapback]518240[/snapback]
ach ditch this he knows i knows nothing pish...

what did happen on the 31st august anyway? dry.gif

OK-and I take absolutely no responsibility for this.

Davie Irons was really getting on the players tits big style. He was apparently making them work far too hard at training, and blaming them individually for poor performances. Then came the Airdrie game. The story goes that all hell broke loose thereafter. Mr Rae wasn't a happy bunny and made sure everybody knew just exactly what he thought of them.

Davie Irons insisted that they all turn up the next day for a very serious de-briefing-a meeting where everybody expected a rollicking. The squad was instructed to turn up outside Cappielow for 9.00 a.m. on the dot.

They all arrived in plenty of time and when he appeared with Derek Collins, Irons said they would have to go indoors as matters to be discussed were not for public consumption. They were instructed to assemble in the Board Room, and that was when everything went totally topsy turvy.








































Apparently they were stunned to silence by the sight of Mr Rae playing naked table tennis with Gillian Donaldson.

Cappie was reportedly keeping the score though he was fully clothed, while the Club Chaplain was said to be beaming benignly in his dog collar and a corner, as he recited from the book of Psalms-



Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death,
I will fear no evil: For thou art with me;
Thy rod and thy staff, they comfort me
.

When all of a sudden a big mealy puddin' came flyin' through the air

Did he duck, did he f*ck, it hit him fair and square.




THAT'S ALL FOLKS
mortonjag 2008-09-25 18:17:30
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 25 2008, 06:11 PM) [snapback]518264[/snapback]
Corrected for you. (In good jest, of course wink.gif smile.gif )

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mortonjag 2008-09-25 18:20:14
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 25 2008, 12:33 PM) [snapback]518054[/snapback]
When is it ok to use the long ball? we have been discussing it lots on here is it ever ok to use it

I thought they were all spherical.
mortonjag 2008-09-25 18:23:57
QUOTE(MaxTon1874 @ Sep 25 2008, 05:47 PM) [snapback]518254[/snapback]
Not sure about that question and will be interesting to see what the real answer will be come the next four games if we loss them all. To be hounest i don't think it will matter if we had sir alex ferguson as manager, at the end of the day we need more quality in our starting 11 every week and we dont have that stregnth to be a feard club. Every chance we try and bring in a good player they don't come and theres always a problem, its as if no one wants to come to morton.

I think theres a bigger problem than just pointing the finger at Irons but who knows ? the only person who can know is dougie rolleyes.gif .

He's been posting already today-why not send him a p.m?
mortonjag 2008-09-25 18:25:59
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Sep 25 2008, 06:24 PM) [snapback]518274[/snapback]
I they are using it in conjuction with those long afternoons and evenings laugh.gif

How much longer is it than the ordinary ball?
mortonjag 2008-09-25 18:42:58
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 25 2008, 06:32 PM) [snapback]518278[/snapback]
I have a feeling Irons wont be given the time other managers have had, again my feelings are that DDF will sack Irons in an attempt to appease the fans sooner rather than later in an attempt to buy himself some time before the whole support turns on him. TBH I think sacking Irons would be the wrong decision and If DDF wants to help he can start with staying out the dressing room pre-match and allowing Irons to take the pre-match warm up uninterrupted.

You seem to be suggesting that nothing has really changed behind the scenes. One thing I had hoped and believed was that DI would have the baws to make the Management job his and his alone.

That's not really been borne out by Mr. Rae strolling on to the pitch for 'pre-match' chats at away games. It's become very obvious to me at least that DI is VERY edgy right now-possibly he has too much basic sincerity to handle 'piggy in the middle' something which with native cunning JM found 'nae bother'!!!
mortonjag 2008-09-25 19:20:20
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 25 2008, 07:15 PM) [snapback]518305[/snapback]
just use your real name FFS laugh.gif

I'd go for-erm Pinky-of Pinky and Perky fame.
mortonjag 2008-09-25 19:22:19
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Sep 25 2008, 07:16 PM) [snapback]518306[/snapback]
I would hope that Irons is here for a good while I don't think the squad is big enough but we still should be doing better than we are at the moment . If Dougie has still not learned his lesson to stay out the dressing room then it won't matter who sits in that chair if Dougie interfers its he who needs to change .

Rae will NEVER change. Mortonton will confirm that! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-25 19:23:27
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Sep 25 2008, 07:03 PM) [snapback]518300[/snapback]
At one point the other night I thought that some of our players were conducting an experiment to disprove the laws of gravity . unsure.gif

Was Spoonsy fleein'?
mortonjag 2008-09-25 19:52:05
QUOTE(Wonko the Sane @ Sep 25 2008, 07:30 PM) [snapback]518313[/snapback]
Dear MJ
This is to inform you that I have arranged for your admission to Glasgow Royal Infirmary on 1st February 2009 for removal of your left testis. Having thoroughly assessed the treatment options, I am afraid that conservative management via improved results for GMFC looks unlikely to be an option. Also, to save on anaesthetics, you will be shown a video of the Morton - QOS game at Cappielow on 13th September. The procedure will be performed while you are asleep.
Yours, Dr Juan Ghoulie, Consultant Surgeon

Dear Dr Ghoulie,

I am most grateful for you prompt attention. There is but one slight problem-namely that my right testis is the one affected by necrosis, and by Feb 1st 2009 will undoubtedly be gone completely. Do you still wish me to attend for surgery?
mortonjag 2008-09-25 19:53:26
QUOTE(mortonton @ Sep 25 2008, 07:27 PM) [snapback]518312[/snapback]
Well I though it was about time I popped my cherry as it were and no one else was exactly queueing up to spill the beans! biggrin.gif

So using that analagy MJ then maybe pinky is quite apt! tongue.gif

Are you a perky copulator?
mortonjag 2008-09-25 20:07:09
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Sep 25 2008, 07:53 PM) [snapback]518319[/snapback]
If that is all that happened, what a let down. Team are playing crap, some players are not happy, woop de do! rolleyes.gif

That and the naked table tennis Your Majesty-don't forget the naked table tennis. Gillian apparently asked Mr Rae if he was 'up for it', to which he replied 'Yes, but I will bring a friend (that's where the Minister fits in). Poor Cappie just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, though his tail escaped for once. The big mealy puddin' which came flyin' through the air was actually a long ball from Ryan harding, and so far nobody has mentioned the fact that the laundry boy was keeking oot the top of one of his baskets which they'd forgotten to lock in the basement for the weekend beside Jimmy Cowan's boot. There's much more to the story actually, but others are privy to the more juicy bits.
mortonjag 2008-09-25 20:09:58
QUOTE(18-deano-ehm-74 @ Sep 25 2008, 08:00 PM) [snapback]518323[/snapback]
I won't chuck it, but it is getting harder and harder to watch us. I have ran out of ways to justify parting with hard earned cash to see the majority of our players stroll about like they would rather be somewhere else. If the long ball worked for us, and we were getting results, I would not have a problem with it. But, it isn't getting us anywhere. We aren't scoring from it, and we are not watertight at the back yet. Shimmin must be asking himself why he joined.
I don't watch Morton to be entertained. As I have said many times I will take a 4-5-1 formation and a 1-0 Ton win over a 3-4-3 formation and a 3-3 draw. If I want entertaining football I sit on the couch and flick onto Sky Sports or Setanta.
And it's not the defeats that are frustrating me. It is the lack of effort from most players, the lack of fire in the belly. The lack of pride in wearing the blue and white hoops. If we got beaten 4-0, I would be gutted, but if I knew that the 11 men playing for Morton had given 110% for the full 90 minutes, I would proudly clap them off the pitch. I think most fans are the same. To support a team outside the OF, you need to handle defeat. Most of us can handle defeat, what we cannot handle, is a defeatist attitude amonst the players.
Things have to change. I'm not 100% sure exactly what has to change, but if it isn't fixed soon, we will be back down where we struggled to escape from for so long.

You appear to be suggesting that the players are unmotivated.
mortonjag 2008-09-25 20:12:31
QUOTE(forza ton @ Sep 25 2008, 08:07 PM) [snapback]518324[/snapback]
there are certain workers who are exempt. for instance people who provide 24 hour care i.e. someone who has learning difficulties with no family may live in sheltered accommodation. the staff in such establishments are exempt from strike action as the residents would have no cover. fair do's. i work in a day centre for adults with learning difficulties. when i strike it causes disruption (as strikes are meant to do) but there certainly wont be any deaths ya feckin drama queen.

what would you suggest my colleagues and i do to gain a wage rise which is at least in line with inflation? the old"i'm not the union rep" line doesn't wash here. if you can hit us with a guilt trip for trying to improve our conditions then you can at least hit us with an alternative. or is this just a "you say black , i'll say white" argument?

If emergency services are valued so much, you'd imagine they'd be paid well enough never to think about strike action!
mortonjag 2008-09-25 20:21:50
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Sep 25 2008, 08:11 PM) [snapback]518329[/snapback]
That would have been more exciting. Honestly, why all the cloak and dagger stuff, jeez, i thought they actually had some right juicy piece of gossip. rolleyes.gif

There appears to be more than one version of the story. In fairness to the posters who 'knew' I reckon they DID believe that three first team players reacting like that to a Manager only months in his job was indeed pretty serious. I also believe that if any of the posters who knew really 'had it in for the club' the story would have been out long ago.

IMHO there is serious unrest behind closed doors at Cappielow. I think Mr Rae yet again opted for a rookie Manager whom he believed could be manipulated, and I suspect that Mr Irons has sacrificed the respect of his playing staff in an attempt to prove to his Master that he can achieve the unattainable.

One poster is already suggesting that his job may be 'on the line'. I'd imagine a great deal now hangs on Saturday's result.
mortonjag 2008-09-25 20:22:53
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 25 2008, 08:19 PM) [snapback]518334[/snapback]
If that was the extent of it then you lot with your I-know-something-the-rest-of-you-don't pish are way more f***ing mental than I thought you were. And believe me, I've always thought you were REALLY mental. You're now off the scale.
If this is true then excellent; Weatherson is pish, McManus is a complete joke, Jenkins is a good second division player at best and McAllister has flattered to deceive for about four seasons. Great. I'd get rid of the lot of them. None of them are fit to wear the shirt.

You are beginning to sound like me, Peter.
mortonjag 2008-09-25 20:38:33
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 25 2008, 08:34 PM) [snapback]518351[/snapback]
McAllister isn't that good, if he was he'd be well gone by now. He's the best player we have but honestly, that's like being the worlds tallest dwarf.

I sincerely hope we get humped on Saturday, the sooner Irons and Collins are gone the better. Worst managerial appointment by Rae so far, probably worse than McPherson. Then Rae's mind might be focused on the utter horror of his customer base.

I'm sure Jim McInally would come back if we asked him nicely!
mortonjag 2008-09-25 20:43:26
QUOTE(forza ton @ Sep 25 2008, 08:38 PM) [snapback]518354[/snapback]
i don't know anything about the lollipop men striking. the council chiefs themselves could come out of their smart offices and do a stint for them. as for kids getting a hot meal - i'm sure they'll be fine on a packed lunch that day and if not their parents can let their councillor know how unhappy they are with the situation and thus strengthen the strikers position.

They would need someone to carry the lollipop, someone to clean the lollipop, someone to check the writing on the lollipop, plus a time keeper, and personal assistant to take the notes.
mortonjag 2008-09-25 20:45:57
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 25 2008, 08:37 PM) [snapback]518353[/snapback]
mortonton why don't you tell us the real reason Newby went away on loan, I believe it to be linked to that day as well. unsure.gif

Pinky called Perky a POUFFE, and Jon thought it was directed at him.
mortonjag 2008-09-25 21:04:14
QUOTE(Capuan @ Sep 25 2008, 08:47 PM) [snapback]518364[/snapback]
Or perhaps the next 2 results?

How long is a piece of string?

It seems to me there are three 'factions' involved: The Chairman, the Management, and the squad.

In normal circumstances that would be a direct line of delegation, but delegation doesn't happen at Cappielow-THAT IS INDISPUTABLE- so Rae is probably telling Irons what he wants done and exactly how to do it, Irons is telling the players exactly what to do and how to do it, and Rae is telling the players exactly what to do and how to do it behind Davie Irons back, and they probably report back to MR Rae if they're unhappy about something and MR Rae again tells Mr Irons exactly what to do and how he wants it done, though it's not exactly what he wanted done before, because the players didn't do exactly what Mr Irons asked of them, etc., etc., etc.

HMM-that sounds like a load of keech.

Anyway the next few weeks should hopefully see improvement or change of some kind.
mortonjag 2008-09-26 06:47:59
QUOTE(Cawston @ Sep 25 2008, 09:30 PM) [snapback]518382[/snapback]
Christ, you did well to get your retaliation in first TID. Talking s***e indeed.

Don't start with the over the years patter either.

The people who received threats like the ones you've mentioned didn't give a flying fck about having your wee secrets. They went onto the Hippo's site and Andy's board and posted what they heard, their only concern was that the Morton support knew what was happening at our club.

If people didn't like what was posted, and many didn't, then that was their bag. At least they had the info.

The whole "we've had rocks thrown at us before" sketch doesn't wash either. If you want to look at the history of this board over the past couple of years you'll see that the people who get abuse for posting rumours are the ones who did exactly what started this thread. Came on with a nod and wink and gave it the I know something you don't patter.

Remember the whole "ohmyfuggingawd the whole squads handing in transfers request and 3 of them are going to Perth by the end of this week" debacle a couple of years ago? Same story.

Nods and winks from the Morton masonic then when the story eventually gets dragged out it somehow became everyone else's fault that the original poster was talking s***.

Afraid of being sued was the cry from MJ's gimp, unbelievable.

Honestly if this is over 3 players handing in a transfer request then you lot should hang your heads in shame, cowards.



I can only speak for myself Cawstick, and firstly I don't understand the use of the term 'gimp' in that sentence. Do you fully understand the meaning?

I have NEVER started a rumour on this forum, but have been subjected to DAILY and systematic abuse from all sides for stating fairly and unequivocally what I believe, and for discussing issues on the basis of confidential information which I have not been at liberty to publicise. Despite claims ad nauseam that I spout pish, I've been attacked to date by at least five insiders at Cappielow-all using aliases-and you have the cheek to talk about cowards!

If you cannot get your little head round the concept of confidentiality-I remember your pathetic jibes about-'go on publicise' in the past, I guess you are too late to learn.

Seems you have some gripe with TiD

OUT IN THE OPEN MY FRIEND-DID HE SHAG YER BURD?
Don't be a coward now-those things DO happen! laugh.gif

The events of 31st August, coming as they did (I am given to understand) hard on the heels of Rae going 'ABSOLUTELY BALLISTIC' at New Broomfield, and ladling into all and sundry including Crawford, were symptomatic of a VERY SERIOUS CRISIS at Morton.

That, more than for any other reason was why most people stayed quiet.

Are you privy to ANY information which entitles you to trivialise the genuine attempts of genuine posters to in some way help the club waken up and move into the 21st century?

If you are, then put up, or shut up and listen to those who are better informed and better equipped to decide exactly what they say and when they say it.
mortonjag 2008-09-26 07:04:44


QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Sep 25 2008, 10:39 PM) [snapback]518394[/snapback]
Terry Venables, Michael Laudrup, Sir Ben Kingsley and Chico have all thrown their hats in the ring. Mortonjag would have put his name forward but apparently he's going to be in London at the time.

Source?
mortonjag 2008-09-26 07:10:47
QUOTE(Wonko the Sane @ Sep 25 2008, 09:14 PM) [snapback]518377[/snapback]
Dear MJ.
This makes major surgery all the more imperative. Given this development, I suggest refraining from vocal outbursts at Cappielow in future. The high pitched nature of your cries of encouragement, abuse etc could result in serious structural damage to the stand, cowshed, floodlights and Mr Rae's hearing aid.

Then I shall cry louder and harder than ever in the hope that the whole thing falls down. The Mickey Mouse share issue might rapidly evolve into full control from Mr Donald and a fresh start for us all.

Mr Rae never wears a hearing aid-indeed he regards the ears God gave him as mere appendages with no physiological function.
mortonjag 2008-09-26 07:16:42
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 26 2008, 07:07 AM) [snapback]518442[/snapback]
Tomato ?

Or as it's London ... HP ?

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Mary had a little lamb
'Twas weaned on Yorkshire relish
And every time it farted
The smell was something hellish!

I wrote that specially for Satan's Husband, a man celebrated locally for his inimitable expertise in poking the fire.
mortonjag 2008-09-26 07:28:21
QUOTE(foxy @ Sep 25 2008, 11:16 PM) [snapback]518405[/snapback]
The only Gay TV i watch is girl on girl....

How dare you try to blacken my name

FOXY LADY! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-26 07:35:03
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Sep 26 2008, 12:57 AM) [snapback]518431[/snapback]
Brahmanic cultures concerning self denial, celibacy and resisting temptation make as little sense to me as their Christian equivalents. Ghandi was seriously weird, no doubt, but you might be a bit mischievous in drawing comparisons between him and GG. If Ghandi was a nonce, then damn him to hell, but are the stories (gleaned from wikipedia I presume) true or false? If Ghandi did sleep with his 19 year old niece, did he only sleep? Was it self denial, self abuse, or (worse) sexual abuse of another? If it was abuse, maybe he and contemporary consensual opinion didn't consider it to be so, given the prevailing cultural and religious background. On second thoughts, feck that phoney baloney analysis, abuse is abuse, and remember that in places such as Mexico, girls as young as 12 can be 'given' into marriage with the 'blessing' of the church.

............and in a 'natural habitat' (presumably God given!) animals tend to procreate according to natural instinct with no specific upper or lower age limits.
mortonjag 2008-09-26 09:36:04 Mary had a little lamb
A succulent wee chop
She went to see a Morton match
And spewed the f*ckin' lot.
mortonjag 2008-09-26 12:25:03
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Sep 26 2008, 11:36 AM) [snapback]518518[/snapback]
Gretna had a lovely dream,
Flew through the leagues like dancers,
Despite their gold, the f***ers fold,
And sold us all their chancers.

TonInDublin

The helicopter's o'er the graves
The streets are full of sirens
I've heard it said that Rae is dead-
The cops are after Irons
mortonjag 2008-09-26 12:28:32
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Sep 26 2008, 11:42 AM) [snapback]518522[/snapback]
Depends how one defines 'real' and/or 'true' I think. Is a real / true fan one who will:
Support Morton through thick and thin without ever criticizing?
Support Morton through thick and thin but feels a duty to criticise when due?
Support Morton through thick and thin, feels a duty to criticise, but prefers not to do so in public?
My answer would be all three I think, the common denominator being 'Support Morton through thick and thin'. By support I mean, for locals: going to as many games that they are able to; and for exiles: supporting / following the club in the best way that they can.
There are a few on this board who, I suspect, do not, and many more not on this board who do.

No it doesn't Mr Edwards, and of course I say so with due respect.

My post was with reference to the definition of FAN-not of 'true' or 'real'! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-26 12:31:33
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 26 2008, 11:37 AM) [snapback]518519[/snapback]
Oh Dear, Oh dear, look at the situation we are all in. Fighting among ourselves AGAIN. sad.gif

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mortonjag 2008-09-26 12:34:48
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 26 2008, 12:21 PM) [snapback]518531[/snapback]
NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! mad.gif
I'm sick of Morton being a starter club for managers. I want experience!!! I want a leader. I want someone who will kick arses all over the place. I want someone who is not a poodle for Rae.

CORRECT
mortonjag 2008-09-26 12:45:55
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Sep 26 2008, 12:37 PM) [snapback]518537[/snapback]
OK, I sit corrected. Definition of FAN it is then.

noun
1. any device for producing a current of air by the movement of a broad surface or a number of such surfaces
mortonjag 2008-09-26 12:48:25
QUOTE(CJTon @ Sep 26 2008, 12:44 PM) [snapback]518539[/snapback]
It is a pity that we have to be negative about everything at the moment.

My take on tuesday night was that despite not playing to the best of our ability (as we showed against Hibs a few weeks ago) we were still beating an SPL club till fairly late on. Now I have heard it mentioned that ICT were not very good but hang on a minute they are currently mid table in the SPL so maybe they might just have a bit of dig to them to get out of these situations.

It will always be the case that a team losing in the Cup to lower league opposition is going to really take the game to them in the latter stages. I presume that DI expected this, looked at his midfield and saw that certain players were a luxury at that stage of the game and therefore had to make changes. He sees the guys in training and knows who is fit and who is not. Unfortunately at the mo it is maybe that Stevie Masterton can't make a full 90 mins and that is why he was hooked. Yes I and most others probably thought it should have been the gentle giant in midfield who should have come off as apart from his throw ins he was doing nothing and was in danger of getting sent off.

At the end of the day I am just not sure how much of a negative effect the substitutions had on the outcome of the game.

I spoke to ICT's assistant manager after the game and he said we had given them a real fright and that we had a good team out on the park.....so maybe we aren't far from turning the corner. A couple of wins and we are back in the pack in what is a very tight league.

Here's hoping the team surprise everybody and come out fighting (no not amongst themselves) on Saturday and take three very valuable points. It will be hard as Dunfermline are a slightly different proposition to last year but lets get behind the team and maybe just maybe........

So you don't think DI's in any immediate danger?
mortonjag 2008-09-26 13:12:05
QUOTE(CJTon @ Sep 26 2008, 12:53 PM) [snapback]518544[/snapback]
As he is working in a results driven business I would be a fool (and very naive) to think that there is not some risk to his job if league wins do not start to materialise.

Just trying to take a positive outlook.

If we get a good victory tomorrow that would be extremely positive for all concerned.
mortonjag 2008-09-26 13:40:57
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Sep 26 2008, 01:21 PM) [snapback]518557[/snapback]
I'd like experience too, but we all know that Rae's hardly a genius when it comes to appointing managers.

HMM-I tend to disagree with that. I think Mr Rae has very carefully chosen managers whom he did believe could produce, but ultimately whom he thought would be 'tame'.
mortonjag 2008-09-26 13:55:44
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Sep 26 2008, 01:50 PM) [snapback]518586[/snapback]
ah ! shut yer fan laugh.gif

You shut yours matey or you may be joining my avatar in the bowels of my cellar.
mortonjag 2008-09-26 13:57:33
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Sep 26 2008, 01:55 PM) [snapback]518589[/snapback]
But that's not what MJ wants to hear is it? MJ's got his own agenda, and one day he might just make me angry enough that I may just make it public on here. mad.gif

Oh go on Anus-I know you're desperate to tell them our little secret! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-26 14:36:38
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Sep 26 2008, 02:04 PM) [snapback]518598[/snapback]
this is going to sound really dumb.. but I dont care.. what is an 'avatar'.. is it the wee picture under your name ?? and last thing what does this... ph34r.gif mean ?

thanks in advance for all your help smile.gif

It means your name's on Fing's hit list! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-26 14:41:54
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 26 2008, 02:14 PM) [snapback]518600[/snapback]
The problems on the Sunday where imo blew out of proportion. This was a clear the air which did not do as intended. the names differ slightly from the original poster as i was not aware of McAllister wanting out. Nor did I hear Weatherson wanting away. I was merely shocked at the time that players seem to have such a high opinion of themselves.

The beans that have been spilled is not what i am WORRIED about. I am not going to go on and say I know something someone else doesn't but my WORRIES have been going on for 3 years now and it will come to a head sooner or later. More likely sooner.

Quite simply things have got to the stage of 'None so blind as those who will not see'.

Greenock Morton is foundering and the Master of the ship is Rae.

End of story.
mortonjag 2008-09-26 14:45:35
QUOTE(cmdc @ Sep 26 2008, 02:00 PM) [snapback]518594[/snapback]
I'm not sure about that...not all the time anyway. I don't think he could have expected Cormack and Cowboy to be tame...and I think the managers who followed, McPherson and McInally, were as much reactions to what had been before as they were puppets or similar.

Cormack was the popular choice, McPherson just plain silly. Cowboy seemed the sensible choice at the time, and McInally was recommended to him directly by Martin O'Neill, which must have been fairly a persuasive reference. As for Irons, he had a good reputation coming into the job, even taking into account his spell in charge in the SPL. On paper, I can see the logic behind each appointment, with the exception of McPherson, at the time they were appointed. Hindsight of course tells a slightly different story.

I'm assuming that Mr Rae DID interview the candidates. He would not have picked somebody whom he thought he couldn't 'control'.

QUOTE(Malt @ Sep 26 2008, 02:35 PM) [snapback]518609[/snapback]
Lets be honest here, McInally was one of O'neills coaches, do you really think he is going to say to Rae "He is pish, don't appoint him as your manager, far too defensive, no tactical knowledge...." Of course he will give him a good write up.

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mortonjag 2008-09-26 14:50:01
QUOTE(Cawston @ Sep 26 2008, 02:34 PM) [snapback]518608[/snapback]
Genuine frontier gibberish from the Jag.

Despite what you believe the world and this board doesn't revolve around you Jaggie, maybe of you took that on board occasionally you'd realise that my comments weren't directed at you.

Of course the board revolves around me Cawstick! FFS only a couple of days ago some Belgian bloke was wanting the Mods to give me a forum all to myself! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Oh-and you DEFINITELY appeared to have a gripe with TiD-witness his response!
mortonjag 2008-09-26 14:51:02
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Sep 26 2008, 02:43 PM) [snapback]518613[/snapback]
If you see Irons or the big Dougie, fancy asking them what happened on August 31st?

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mortonjag 2008-09-26 14:53:22
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 26 2008, 02:11 PM) [snapback]518599[/snapback]
Not what I expected from a videoclip about Swedish sisters. blush.gif

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That was the trailer. In the real film they strip naked and attack a herd of rampaging bulls.
mortonjag 2008-09-26 15:03:24
QUOTE(Cawston @ Sep 26 2008, 02:53 PM) [snapback]518623[/snapback]
The bit I've highlighted is what annoys me TID, I don't care who knows what. I really don't. What pisses me off is the small group of people on here who love to trumpet the fact that they're in the know but never deliver the goods. FWIW you're certainly not one of them.

I'm not talking about MJ either, for all he's a mad as a bag of cats I do believe that somewhere in the haze of paranoi he must have a point.

As for what MJ knows, to be honest I'm not interested. Believe me I'm surprised at myself being able to make that statement, there was a time I'd have bitten your hand off for that type of info.

Maybe that's because there's a bit of distance between me and Morton at the minute or maybe I'm still a bit drained with what happened in the past.

Either way it's his burden and it won't be mine until he puts the information into the public domain.

Mad as a bag of crazed ferrets indeed Cawstic, but not mad enough to miss the point that Rae has single handedly dragged the club down to where it is-that is the ONLY point that really matters-I've been making it for three seasons, and the truth has finally dawned on the majority.

Do you have any problem with that?
mortonjag 2008-09-26 15:06:43
QUOTE(Cawston @ Sep 26 2008, 02:59 PM) [snapback]518627[/snapback]
You are aware it's possible to have a gripe with someones opinions without having a gripe with the person themselves?

Jaggie?

Yes.
mortonjag 2008-09-26 15:09:04
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 26 2008, 02:59 PM) [snapback]518626[/snapback]
Having personally met the guy I can confirm he is a fud. No doubt he thought the same of me, no love lost as he certainly didn't like the craic about being a Rangers fan before being a Skunk on a plane to Amsterdam.

Don't think its sour grapes because he follows them, Bill Leckie whom i have met on a couple of occasions IS a decent bloke, even if he did steal my story (and admitted it in from of Jimmy Calderwood and Jimmy Bone). you can keep yer Chick.



I bumped into Chick several times when we both lived in Mr Bam land. In real life he's the epitome of fuddery, who just like yours truly will stop at nothing to be the centre of attention! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-26 15:12:48
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 26 2008, 03:08 PM) [snapback]518631[/snapback]
when was the peak then unsure.gif

I reckon the best we achieved was promotion to the Second-and even that took too long. Since then it's been one step forward and two back.
mortonjag 2008-09-26 15:19:38 If all the rumours and rumours of rumours are to be believed, Cappie's kittens are due on Christmas Eve at 7.23 p.m.


I believe we'll win this one because we've got to. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-26 15:25:45
QUOTE(Cawston @ Sep 26 2008, 03:19 PM) [snapback]518639[/snapback]
I'm of the opinion that that's all you want from this board, have been so for some time.
I told you, until you learn to share it's all your problem.

Well you told me wrong Cawstic!

1/ I don't and will never share privileged information until I have consent.

2/ I've never found that a problem in my Profession, and on this wee pubic massage board it's a complete dawdle.

I've been highly amused at the different ways in which my old detractors have backed down. Needless to say I've yet to receive a single apology for some of the completely OTT abuse I've taken from folk who should have known better than the insignificant idiots who didn't and never will.

That's not a problem either-just very amusing! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-26 15:38:29 Nikers.
mortonjag 2008-09-26 15:46:04
QUOTE(Cawston @ Sep 26 2008, 03:40 PM) [snapback]518647[/snapback]
Woops... laugh.gif Thoughts stray to your Aussie toadie there?

I told you two seasons ago that if you keep saying it long enough it'll happen, predicting that managers like McInally will eventually fail and that small clubs will hit hard times isn't as difficult as you're making out.

As for your info, maybe I'm not being clear. I'm not challenging you to reveal it, you've got your strategy for dealing with it and whether or not I agree doesn't matter.

However, please don't expect me to share your concerns when I have no idea what they are.

It's refreshing to hear you explain that you've agreed with me from the word 'go'!

Having said that, I've made my 'concerns' very public on -shall we say- several occasions. If you have no idea what they are, you may be beyond redemption. smile.gif

One final point-I have NEVER regarded Greenock Morton as a 'small' club. Perhaps that is part of your difficulty.
mortonjag 2008-09-26 16:13:55
QUOTE(Cawston @ Sep 26 2008, 04:02 PM) [snapback]518654[/snapback]
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Missing the point altogether Barbarossa.

I don't believe he's missing the point at all. Every time somebody has made a valid point, adding that he has evidence to prove it, you've rubbished the notion.

If somebody passes me some helpful information, I'm reassured when he endorses that with confirmation that he is 'in the know'. I don't expect him to tell me more unless he chooses, and I CERTAINLY don't see that as a problem for him.

I remember very clearly on one occasion when I got a bit upset at the constant 'rubbishing', and commented that the information could do a lot of damage if it were publicised. That was a fact.

Your helpful comment-'Go ahead-publish it-you won't'. That was because you were resentful as Barbie has correctly identified! The information has not been published, but is still as potent as it was back then, despite your attempts to ridicule me.

It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if we begin to see stuff appearing in the newspapers in the near future! ph34r.gif

mortonjag 2008-09-26 16:33:33
QUOTE(Cawston @ Sep 26 2008, 04:23 PM) [snapback]518663[/snapback]
Maybe I just don't have your patience.

I've said my piece, you're welcome to PM me if you want to discuss it further.

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I never wanted to discuss it in the first place, as in my opinion there was nothing to discuss. The facts remain, and facts are chiels than winna ding! smile.gif

I will however, continue to defend my position on each and every occasion that I'm called in question.
mortonjag 2008-09-27 08:12:00
QUOTE(Cawston @ Sep 26 2008, 04:12 PM) [snapback]518658[/snapback]
Symbolic of your struggle with reality more like biggrin.gif

Symbolic of the 'heid up erse' stance of most posters under forty who coincidentally object to the truth 'a la Jag'.

Morton is NOT a small club. Get that right up beside yer heid my good friend.

QUOTE(cornbeef @ Sep 26 2008, 04:29 PM) [snapback]518666[/snapback]
Rivers of P1sh

Away for a swim cloth ears.

QUOTE(Last Boat Home @ Sep 26 2008, 06:29 PM) [snapback]518698[/snapback]
There will be many supporters and posters on here who know a lot more about the goings on at Cappielow than they feel obliged to share on this message board.

Thankfully there are only a few that are so far up their own arses that they feel the need to come on here and brag about it dry.gif

Before they come back with the self righteous pish that is “this type of attack is exactly why we don’t post information on the board” take a good look at yourselves - if you are such shrinking violets why bother mentioning it in the first place?

Yes it is your right but equally it’s everyone else’s right to have a pop as well.

Not come across such misplaced self importance based on "I know something you don’t know nah, nah, nana nah" since P4 at primary school.

When does the “my dads bigger than your dad” thread start? rolleyes.gif

And there will always be the ignorant, self satisfied, and self opinionated arseholes who know nothing and resent other self opinionated arseholes who know a hell of a lot and use the knowledge with discretion.

Self opinionated arseholes with chips on their shoulders are the worst type. dry.gif

QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 26 2008, 06:42 PM) [snapback]518699[/snapback]
Gidday Cawstuck,

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Our toads are mainly in Queensland - brought over from Hawaii.

The cane toad, Bufo marinus to his mates, was introduced to Australia by the sugar cane industry to control two pests of sugar cane, the grey backed cane beetle and the frenchie beetle.

Perhaps MJ would like some for pest control purposes ?

I suspect the pest may be nearer eradication that we imagine.

QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Sep 27 2008, 12:08 AM) [snapback]518822[/snapback]
About 5 of the 7 pages of this thread read:

"You have chosen to ignore blah blah"

Joyful reading. smile.gif
I sincerely hope that players don't read this, and a few years ago I'd have guessed that they did look at this. Thanks to moronjag and co, ironically, I doubt any of the staff can be arsed coming on here now, which is for the best. Some of you lot are pathetic.

The staff should be nowhere near this forum unless they have the wit to handle it responsibly. When you grow up you will hopefully understand things like that.
mortonjag 2008-09-27 08:16:44 It's been a long time indeed. We will win today. There are many reasons why we HAVE to win today. If we DON'T win today I'm having chilli pakora as a starter tonight no matter what my partner thinks.
mortonjag 2008-09-27 08:18:03
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 26 2008, 07:26 PM) [snapback]518714[/snapback]
I like that one. biggrin.gif

Big Blue Eyes loves poetry Mrs T! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-27 08:24:48
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 26 2008, 09:30 PM) [snapback]518772[/snapback]
I'm not going to either of the Dingwall games - I'll still likely attend all other games apart from possibly Almondvale as I'd rather catch ebola than visit that s***hole again.
If I was offered decent work hours on a Saturday I'd jump at the chance though - Morton at the moment simply can't be a block on progress...

What are you building SPARROT?
mortonjag 2008-09-27 08:31:45 I can say without fear of contradiction that I have gone home many a time after a hard days work where I have seen at least half a dozen more attractive women in greater states of undress.

Puggs my boy-at times you come over as a tad desperate! laugh.gif

There's an excuse for beermonkey-he's not even been to a two bit tech!
mortonjag 2008-09-27 08:35:25
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 27 2008, 08:27 AM) [snapback]518857[/snapback]
Are you Big Blue Jugs? I hope not. unsure.gif

Well I was being strongly accused of it Mrs T. and when a Moderator does things like that he's either giving away secrets he shouldn't or just being cheeky!!!!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-27 08:46:16
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 27 2008, 08:33 AM) [snapback]518859[/snapback]
I don't think the issue is with people resenting people who know a lot and use it at their discretion. People have a problem because people who know things come on here and say they know things and then refuse to say what it is, rather than them knowing stuff and being happy with that and not mentioning it at all. If people were truelly happy with just knowing stuff and not trying to act more important than others then they would talk about it amongst themselves, the fact they know stuff has no place on a public messageboard.

The people who don't know things love the club just as much as the people who do know things, which puts them at a disadvantage already because theyre being told something is wrong with the club by people who claim to be in the know but refuse to say what it is, but waste no time in telling them that they know something. Some people on here seem to forget that the people in the dark love the club every bit as much as the people in the know, and that they aren't any more important than the average fan.

In which case, may I clarify my position Dear?

I am privy to a significant quantity of data from several sources. Some is documented, while more is based on information provided. I am not AT LIBERTY to throw that information into a public forum-it has been passed in confidence.

What I have been doing for some considerable time is making general points about Morton which are obviously based to some degree on my 'inside' information. I am invariably attacked and challenged by the usual culprits, with 'put up or shut up', or 'prove it', etc., etc. etc.

I am then wont to stating simply and factually that INDEED I can prove it, but am not at liberty to do so.

Does that make any sense? If you say 'Yes' you're on an extra bottle of Merlot tonight.
mortonjag 2008-09-27 09:03:48
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Sep 27 2008, 08:38 AM) [snapback]518861[/snapback]
What was he doing, come on spill it. If it was you, you might have chose a better character. I had her sussed from her/his first post. Some of the guys on here were sniffing around like dogs on heat. rolleyes.gif

I don't believe I've ever suggested, posted, or implied that I'm Big Blue Jugs. I just thought Bryan had got it into his head that I am, and he should be able to check! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-27 09:06:22
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 27 2008, 08:56 AM) [snapback]518865[/snapback]
We don't win, may I sentence you to bread and water for not bringing a friend and loudly supporting the team.

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Are you all set for Ron Number at 2.45 pm ?

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I've been trying to 'phone him! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-27 09:42:39
QUOTE(Dr Zhivago @ Sep 27 2008, 09:19 AM) [snapback]518874[/snapback]
Interesting that 3 people say it's NEVER ok to play a long ball!? Seen plenty of goals scored from a long ball over the top for a pacey forward to run onto. Remember this being particularly effective for Dave McCabe!

What you shouldn't be doing is realying on it as the main method of getting the ball forward, especially when the long bal is aimed at an isolated striker with two guys marking him closely i.e what Morton do with Brian Wake every game

I agree-I haven't bothered voting as I don't think the poll will prove much.

An accurate long ball-particularly a diagonal long ball to a pacey winger - has always been a part of football, and adds to the excitement. Long punts up the middle to a 'hold up' man can be boring and frustrating if he doesn't have effective follow through from midfield, and that's what we've been seeing ad nauseam.
mortonjag 2008-09-27 09:51:30
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Sep 27 2008, 09:09 AM) [snapback]518871[/snapback]
Great post Savo, concisely expressing the sentiments of the faithful and the loyal Morton support. cool.gif

Viz. 'The fans' Mr Edwards! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-27 09:54:27
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 27 2008, 09:07 AM) [snapback]518870[/snapback]
I prefer fantasist!

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QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Sep 27 2008, 09:40 AM) [snapback]518883[/snapback]
Check the ankles lads - minute she gets pupped the first time she'll be piling on the cake and it won't be long before you wouldn't ride it into batttle.

She's got legs that could kick start a jumbo jet, but she looks like a right dirty so she would defo get ot.
One up the bum, no harm done.

TonInDublin

Are you busy tonight Sweetie?
mortonjag 2008-09-27 10:00:53
QUOTE(Last Boat Home @ Sep 27 2008, 09:52 AM) [snapback]518888[/snapback]
Conclusive proof, if ever it was needed, King arsehole has spoken - ladies and gentlemen of the jury I rest my case rolleyes.gif

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King arsehole was simply making the point that King arsehole knows what he's talking about and other arsehole minions of King arsehole get upset and say nasty things about King arsehole which presumably saves them from hitting their wives, kicking the cat oot the window, or having that extra and dangerous drink.

As to 'resting your case', may I point out that Hobby Horses are not permitted in court. As King, I assure you that is correct.

How long do you think Mr Rae will still be Chairman BTW? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-27 10:03:23
QUOTE(Last Boat Home @ Sep 27 2008, 10:01 AM) [snapback]518893[/snapback]
I know things about penguins that would completely change your mind (written evidence, pictures, videos the lot,) in fact so much life changing info you would be dating a penguin within a week laugh.gif

Can't show anyone on here the evidence though - its exclusively for me, MrsTon and PortTon whose love for penguins and ability to handle this information sensibly is clearly superior to the rabble that populate the board.

Mon the penguins biggrin.gif

That doesn't even get up to a scrape pass mark as an attempt at wit/sarcasm.

Are they only the small minded who attack King arsehole?
mortonjag 2008-09-27 10:17:40
SPOONSY WAS, IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE A STRIKER
mortonjag 2008-09-27 10:19:25
QUOTE(jpmil @ Sep 27 2008, 10:08 AM) [snapback]518898[/snapback]
I'm just back from holiday and although I've waded through this thread (quickly) I've not managed to understand what it is all about.
Could someone explain (not necessarily in great detail) "what's going on at Morton?

Rae is killing the club!
mortonjag 2008-09-27 10:23:40
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 27 2008, 10:20 AM) [snapback]518909[/snapback]
Misogyny? You'll be voting Essenpee and turning homophobic next. rolleyes.gif

Are there NO POUFFE SNP supporters-what about Spurtle?
mortonjag 2008-09-27 10:25:28
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Sep 27 2008, 10:23 AM) [snapback]518911[/snapback]
What are the odds that with the revelations of unrest and rumour of jobs being on the line that Irons will throw caution to the wind and go 4-3-3 the day in the desperate search for our first win?

p.s hope so, if so 2-1 Morton if not 1-0 Dunfy

Will the players be 'up for it'?
mortonjag 2008-09-27 11:46:52
QUOTE(Last Boat Home @ Sep 27 2008, 10:27 AM) [snapback]518915[/snapback]
Your majesty,

My point is that you can�€™t have a proper dialogue based on �€œyou have to agree with everything I say because I have information I can�€™t tell you about!�€�

I fully understand the problem you have.

I regularly enjoy forum dialogue and exchange personal messages with intelligent fellow posters who have no problem with my knowing absolutely everything.

Some of them were in the same self destructive warp as your good self until they came to their senses. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-27 11:50:30
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 27 2008, 11:18 AM) [snapback]518935[/snapback]
Sure whynot, but only because i hear Mark Farrell pulled his hamstring cutting the grass on Thursday, otherwise i'd have him upfront.

I heard it was RSI.
mortonjag 2008-09-27 11:52:00
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 27 2008, 10:39 AM) [snapback]518924[/snapback]
I don't deal with the petty cash sir, another on the team is responsible for that!

Do you take the bag to the bank?
mortonjag 2008-09-27 11:53:52
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 27 2008, 11:50 AM) [snapback]518954[/snapback]
You psyched for 2.45pm yet

Is he coming?
mortonjag 2008-09-27 12:00:44
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 27 2008, 11:56 AM) [snapback]518961[/snapback]
I don't deal with the petty cash huh.gif

Look Puggs I'm not talking about insider trading, and it probably wouldn't make you enough for a poke of Mr Rae's best Soor Plooms, especially in those days of 'credit crunch' and rising sugar prices. I meant -are you sent to bank the petty cash?
mortonjag 2008-09-27 12:03:30
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 27 2008, 12:01 PM) [snapback]518969[/snapback]
Might just get us a draw! biggrin.gif

The Ref would probably notice.
mortonjag 2008-09-27 12:04:28
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 27 2008, 12:00 PM) [snapback]518967[/snapback]
Is it high noon yet ?

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Your post was received at that very hour!
mortonjag 2008-09-27 12:06:04
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 27 2008, 12:04 PM) [snapback]518973[/snapback]
Did you get your hole or just a cheeky winch at their door at the end of the night?

Mature men don't 'get their hole'!
mortonjag 2008-09-27 12:25:08
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 27 2008, 12:13 PM) [snapback]518978[/snapback]
Don't worry, puggsy ... MJ ain't no accountant.

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Mortonjag KNOWS the price of Mr Rae's Soor Plooms.
mortonjag 2008-09-27 12:26:52
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 27 2008, 12:11 PM) [snapback]518976[/snapback]
wot a coincidence.

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What I want to know is this. If you are eight or nine hours ahead of me-what was today's score please?
mortonjag 2008-09-27 12:29:05
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Sep 27 2008, 12:11 PM) [snapback]518977[/snapback]
You speak for yourself. laugh.gif

Congratulations Mr Edwards-patience is indeed a virtue!
mortonjag 2008-09-27 12:30:32 I heard a whisper that Kieran McAnespie's budgie is ill.
mortonjag 2008-09-27 12:41:16
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 27 2008, 12:32 PM) [snapback]518992[/snapback]
I am sorry, MJ, but Sugar Rae's ordering system has instructed me to withhold that information.

He is concerned that any early warning may preclude you from bringing a friend.

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I'm taking my brother, The Monkey, and Fing-is that not enough?
mortonjag 2008-09-27 12:43:24
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 27 2008, 12:34 PM) [snapback]518993[/snapback]
That's the cost ... not the price.

cost
–noun
1. the price paid to acquire, produce, accomplish, or maintain anything:
mortonjag 2008-09-27 12:46:19
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 27 2008, 12:35 PM) [snapback]518994[/snapback]
Not even for posting yet another speel of boring pish?

speel
verb (used with object), verb (used without object) Scot. and North England.
to climb; ascend; mount.


spiel
noun
a usually high-flown talk or speech, esp. for the purpose of luring people to a movie, a sale, etc.; pitch.

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mortonjag 2008-09-27 12:49:44
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 27 2008, 12:43 PM) [snapback]518997[/snapback]
Did a little birdie tell you?

Indeed, and apparently the whole squad's as sick as a parrot.
mortonjag 2008-09-27 12:52:24
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 27 2008, 12:47 PM) [snapback]519003[/snapback]
You're almost as witty as Gina Yashere.

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It was more information for you SPARROT-I want you to learn and become clever like me!

Who is this Gina bloke anyway?
mortonjag 2008-09-27 12:54:37
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 27 2008, 12:44 PM) [snapback]518998[/snapback]
Does the lack of follow through frustrate you often?

Every time I see them-I really wish Jenkins was fit/motivated, and would have an upbeat Jamie back in a flash.
mortonjag 2008-09-27 12:56:19
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 27 2008, 12:53 PM) [snapback]519007[/snapback]
Still can't use a space bar - your alleged intelligence can't quite stretch to that advanced level.
Perhaps you should chuck posting until you learn...

Were the three full stops necessary-or were you pre-occupied?
mortonjag 2008-09-27 12:59:24 That's a very cryptic question Barbie. On the face of it you appear to be suggesting that the behaviour of a hard core of trouble makers could jeopardise our future, or is that quite wrong?
mortonjag 2008-09-27 13:02:06
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Sep 27 2008, 12:56 PM) [snapback]519010[/snapback]
Noun 1. roomer

- a tenant in someone's house, boarder, lodger, renter, tenant - someone who pays rent to use land or a building or a car that is owned by someone else.

I thought this thread would be about your renter boy!! rolleyes.gif

You leave my renter boy right out of this Santa, and unless you have anything of importance to contribute to a serious thread about the illness of the pet of a fans' pet, f*ck off and don't come back till Christmas.
mortonjag 2008-09-27 13:02:59
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 27 2008, 12:59 PM) [snapback]519013[/snapback]
Deliberate obtuseness does not work on me I'm afraid. Must try harder.

with
mortonjag 2008-09-27 13:18:20
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 27 2008, 01:03 PM) [snapback]519019[/snapback]
Fail.

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Just getting ready-to head off -for the match-SPARROT - I hope the team passes! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-27 13:19:09
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 27 2008, 01:09 PM) [snapback]519022[/snapback]
Scratch that, im going. DAMN YOU MORTON! mad.gif

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mortonjag 2008-09-27 13:20:31
QUOTE(Wonko the Sane @ Sep 27 2008, 01:06 PM) [snapback]519020[/snapback]
The trouble with 3 at the back is that it forces McAlister into a defensive role. Personally, I'd leave McGuffie out cos I don't rate him but Irons obviously does. So Kev will likely be on the bench again which is a waste IMO

Indeed-his wages should have been spent on a proper right winger! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-27 13:30:07
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 27 2008, 01:22 PM) [snapback]519027[/snapback]
Perhaps you should consider lowering your expectation of a 5th place finish - the pressure is clearly getting to them. rolleyes.gif

....hold on please....right that's my- zip up- and we're ready to go- I have every confidence that we will finish 5th or above-not necessarily with this Manager - - not necessarily with the current ------squad- not necessarily with Soor Plooms as the Headie- but- we will finish 5th or above!

Right- we're - OFF! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-28 06:31:14
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 27 2008, 06:14 PM) [snapback]519179[/snapback]
East Stirlingshire 5 Elgin City 2

If East Stirlingshire can get a big win so can we.

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I believe their manager is more experienced than ours.
mortonjag 2008-09-28 06:34:47
QUOTE(gmfc_stinny_gmfc @ Sep 27 2008, 06:05 PM) [snapback]519167[/snapback]
Exactly, harding is one of the worst defenders ive seen in a professional football team and we need rid of him now!.

I take it you're a newcomer to football and don't get out much!
mortonjag 2008-09-28 06:41:23
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 27 2008, 10:37 PM) [snapback]519319[/snapback]
Gidday capello,

I expect that MJ will give us a complete report in the next hour or so.

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Alistair Donald was indeed sitting beside Mr Rae. Mr Rae left early. Apparently Mr Donald asked him to pop out to the Autoteller for some cash. I believe a take over was imminent, but Mr Rae forgot the PIN and by the time he got back empty handed the Pars had equalised and AD had again changed his mind.
mortonjag 2008-09-28 06:45:53
QUOTE(wanderton @ Sep 27 2008, 11:07 PM) [snapback]519334[/snapback]
I read with interest this forum and also letters in the local paper with a lot of people wanting mr rae to move on which to a extent i can see peoples point.However mr rae has always said that he would sell for his initial stake that he bought the club for and is happy to wipe out the hundered of thousands of his own money he has spent on upgrading cappielow and also the money he has lost on some poor signings.For the folk who are demanding him to move on and sell up i must ask who the hell is going to pay the man what he is looking for and also maintain full time football? I am sure that if someone came along with the club at heart and not wanting to turn cappielow into a housing estate mr rae would speak to them.but until then we should be happy to have a team playing 1st division football with a great support and look around at some clubs in a higher league than us that struggle at times to pay players and staff wages this as far as i know has never been the situation at morton since mr rae took over.


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QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 27 2008, 11:38 PM) [snapback]519344[/snapback]
We already have substantial gate revenue that can largely be guaranteed at a lower level regardless of on the itch success. IIRC a small music festival was planned to take place at Cappielow in May of last year, shame the idea itself folded but not to say others wouldn't. Is the large area of land than constitutes the car park etc not under club ownership?
Time to face reality: clubs like ourselves are selling clubs - at the right price and at the right time. Youth development is an obvious source for such fees but equally so is decent scouting and open-mindedness - look at the signing of Shimmin and what he could earn for the club.
I'm not saying its an easy task, but then again efficient running of a football club is never an easy task and I hardly think it should be outwith our expectations to expect that.

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mortonjag 2008-09-28 06:56:21 My great great grandfather Methuselah Mortonjag invented the long ball. It never caught on because players were too easily fooled by the unnatural bounce on a plastic pitch.
mortonjag 2008-09-28 06:57:24
QUOTE(Ghost @ Sep 28 2008, 04:58 AM) [snapback]519378[/snapback]
Dont worry, no doubt Crawford won it to pay for him and his cronies day out on the golfing

Crawford is a golfer?
mortonjag 2008-09-28 07:06:45
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Sep 27 2008, 06:47 PM) [snapback]519213[/snapback]
What part?

The bit about the left-back that has absolutely no idea where he is meant to be on the pitch, makes poor decisions and so on? Or do we like him now because now and again he covers up his gross incompetence with a slide tackle that could have been avoided by being in the right place initially rather than having to chase back 10/15 yards and dive in? I said on another thread he seems to be a centre-back moved out to the left because he wasn't good enough, but I think now that perhaps that was over-estimating him. What the f*** is going on at Murray Park when they are producing football players that don't even have the slightest sense of positioning, and keepers that can't keep??? I thought McGregor's positioning was bad, but he's Maldini compared to this guy. A waste of space, a desperate signing by a desperate man, which leads in nicely to the next bit...
Is it the bit about the manager that sends out a team that just seems totally uninspired, and unaware of where on the pitch they are meant to be that is questionable? That obviously doesn't do set-pieces in training, as evidenced by our approach to Paartalu's throws? The manager who made yet another change today that influenced the game negatively for us? I'll stop now, because I can't really be arsed going on.
Edit to add: If we're thinking today was actually good, and that a decent team wouldn't have beaten us quite easily, then we are in an even bigger mess than I though. We were average, at best, it's just as well Dunfermline were total gash.

I am more than ever convinced you are David McGregor. Mind you Harper had a field day, getting to the bye line 57 times and those eight killer crosses were a nightmare for Cuthbert. Thank f*ck they only scored from six! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-28 07:21:06
QUOTE(Dr Zhivago @ Sep 27 2008, 06:22 PM) [snapback]519190[/snapback]
Russell's miss was horrendous. He was more culpable than Harding for Morton's failure to take 3 points today.. he was maybe ten yards out with the keeper to beat and acres of space, to fail to even hit the target is shocking -no composure whatsoever - not good enough.

I don't like scapegoat threads, especially when the real culprit was bouncing about like a loonball windmill in the technical area!

IF YOU MUST single players out and use terms about horrendous misses and lack of composure please select prime culprit.

I give you:

JIMBO HIT AND HOPE

His failure to even get his shot on target in the first half was one of the most culpable pieces of panic I've ever witnessed on a football pitch. I see that he's getting accolades again for yesterday's 90 minutes of gung ho pish, and those who awarded him the MOTM clearly were pished. I can't remember the number of times he tracked back well, tackled well and then gave the ball to an opponent! dry.gif

Jimbo has good points-sure-but I believe it's finally time for folk to wake up and smell the coffee. He's not that great really.
mortonjag 2008-09-28 07:27:27
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 27 2008, 05:51 PM) [snapback]519145[/snapback]
1. Greacen is no better than Harding at making stupid, costly defensive errors.
2. Weatherson didn't actually miss any major chances from what i recall.
3. Smith is not of 1st Division standard.

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mortonjag 2008-09-28 07:39:06 Hi Ryan,

I know the players are not supposed to read this daft wee massage board but I've been told they often do.

It's yer Uncle Mortonjag here, and he's slightly concerned by what some folk have been saying about you. Apparently yer 'no that good' son.

I just wanted to comment that nobody was complaining about you when you scored the winner against Hibs, and the press thought you were 'outstanding' against Killie a couple of seasons back, and at least I know you've been denied two great headed goals this season by inspired goalkeeping.

OK son, I know you're going through a bit of a jittery spell, but Rusty can't make McManus captain when he's been a cheeky boy, so I'm afraid it's yours whether you like it or not, and you'll just have to take your mind of the armband and watch the ball.

As far as I'm concerned son, you're one of the most talented footballers at Cappielow-you'll just have to learn to concentrate for 90 minutes, and try to switch off completely to the fog horn in the dugout.

You're a good lad and yer Uncle Mortonjag loves you. wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-28 07:52:48
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Sep 28 2008, 07:34 AM) [snapback]519401[/snapback]
Yip.

YUP![attachment=4599:penis_pump.jpg]
mortonjag 2008-09-28 07:55:09
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Sep 28 2008, 07:43 AM) [snapback]519404[/snapback]
It is a little early to be on the alco-pops MJ !! blink.gif

Don't be silly Gash-I was just sending a note to my nephew from Embra-is this not the Post Office?
mortonjag 2008-09-28 07:56:26
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Sep 28 2008, 07:35 AM) [snapback]519402[/snapback]
I think it is more to do with the fact they where playing Elgin City than experience.

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Maybe he re-discovered his marbles.
mortonjag 2008-09-28 07:59:20
QUOTE(capitanus @ Sep 27 2008, 08:51 PM) [snapback]519297[/snapback]
McGowan is a cracking wee player, nobody would dispute that, and he has certainly got a lot going for him.

However, bigger and better clubs than Morton would want him, why on earth would he want to come to Cappielow?



'Anybody'?
mortonjag 2008-09-28 08:06:42
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 27 2008, 07:43 PM) [snapback]519245[/snapback]
Is there a church service tomorrow ?

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I believe Rev McCurry is the guest preacher, as Rev Rae is off to complete his holiday-well I don't suppose it really matters who's shafting you-anyway the sermon will be based on a reading from God's Holy Book-Job 1: 20-21

Then Job arose, and rent his mantle, and shaved his head, and fell down upon the ground, and worshipped,
And said, Naked came I out of my mother's womb, and naked shall I return thither: the Lord gave, and the Lord hath taken away; blessed be the name of the Lord. ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif

mortonjag 2008-09-28 08:09:02
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Sep 28 2008, 08:06 AM) [snapback]519409[/snapback]
Not sure, did you meander aimlessly through a queuing system even though there was actually no queue ?

I can see big GIRO signs but there's definitely no queue. Have I come to the wrong place?
mortonjag 2008-09-28 08:14:07
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 27 2008, 06:18 PM) [snapback]519184[/snapback]
If his budgie is ill he should take it to one of the governments new poly-clinics. rolleyes.gif

Faw tweetment?
mortonjag 2008-09-28 08:20:19 I think of Paul almost every day, and shall continue to do so for as long as his face still appears on the labels of his excellent Italian Salad Dressing. For years all profits from that concoction (his own recipe) have been donated to charity.

I don't use it because of the charity thing-just because it tastes 'Ace'.

Sorry to lose a fine actor. I hope he went peacefully.
mortonjag 2008-09-28 08:51:58 I enjoyed the game yesterday. One thing spoiled it-the bigger picture-we're even further adrift at the bottom of our division. I thought we played reasonably attractive football for spells of the game and had the Pars in our pocket for most of the second half.

Why were no substitutions made when a second goal would have clinched it? Forget that token chucking of Jenkins on for the last five minutes-well DON'T - without mentioning that his one run through the middle which just failed to pay off, was the most direct attacking move of the whole game.

Dunfermline had already used all of their subs. Iain Russell wasn't getting much change out of their defence, and big Eric had become somewhat redundant. Why not bring on Superkev and Jenks with fifteen minutes left? Freshen things up - keep the Pars guessing -it's not exactly rocket science!

Again it looked to me like Irons froze, fingers crossed, and praying we'd hold on instead of going for a second goal. In that respect he's WORSE than JM! laugh.gif

Again, as at Broadwood, his prayers were not answered.

mortonjag 2008-09-28 08:57:50
QUOTE(AyrshireTon @ Sep 28 2008, 08:19 AM) [snapback]519413[/snapback]
What's Nero?

Try here
mortonjag 2008-09-28 09:00:11
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 28 2008, 07:33 AM) [snapback]519400[/snapback]
Whit ?

Are they ALL poofs ?

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Ghost is wont to giving the willies.
mortonjag 2008-09-28 09:06:07
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 28 2008, 09:04 AM) [snapback]519427[/snapback]
Your post is all very well and good, but as a defender his first job is to defend, all your examples have been of him scoring or nearly scoring apart from one game two years ago.

He doesn't defend well enough throughout 90 minutes to be good enough at this level, and costs us far more goals than he'll score.

I wasn't speaking to you.
mortonjag 2008-09-28 10:20:20
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 28 2008, 09:23 AM) [snapback]519430[/snapback]
Well i am Ryan's spokesman, unfortunately i haven't told him i think he's pish.
thats not true actually, i've always liked him...he's just infuriating and shouldnt be anywhere near the team when he's having one of his wee spells like just now.

I wish there was a secret love child of Greacen and Harding, then in 20 years time we'd have an excellent first division defender...although we'll probably be in the 3rd division with Dougie still hanging on in there.

He'll be 97 years young. Yip-I can just see him shuffling onto the pitch with his Zimmer and getting us all 'up for it'! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-28 10:22:10
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Sep 28 2008, 09:31 AM) [snapback]519434[/snapback]
amen.....now f*** off and and give yourself some anal rimming

I don't understand-is that something you're good at?
mortonjag 2008-09-28 10:24:31
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Sep 28 2008, 09:49 AM) [snapback]519442[/snapback]
But for a club like St. Johnstone one of the major income revenues is the club's conferencing and events facilities - Cappielow doesn't have that potential (in terms of space). We could use space around Cappielow if it is ours, but it would still take considerable money to put together (and would leave it with very little parking space).

St. Midden need to leave love street to move to a craptastic new legoland stadium, but if they want to move forward (and not be crippled by debt) they have to. They got incredibly lucky with the deal they got. It would be difficult for us to manufacture such a deal IMO.

I actually agree that the running of the club could be much better, youth football in particular, but also very general stuff. But the club has come a long way in the past few seasons, and my worry is that it could be much worse.

Examples!
mortonjag 2008-09-28 10:26:24
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 28 2008, 09:41 AM) [snapback]519439[/snapback]
I thought yesterday was by far his best game of the season so far, and that he played pretty good which made the team play well. He dived into tackles, broke up play and passed the ball out wide at every oppertunity.

There were a few gaps in the midfield because him and Masterton sat too deep at times but overall i thought he was good and no coincidence that we played well the day he played well.

I hope he continues to play decent like today because im getting fed up with Morton players giving up once they've earned long term contracts.

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mortonjag 2008-09-28 10:30:29
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Sep 28 2008, 08:59 AM) [snapback]519423[/snapback]
It's not a laughing matter. The poor wee thing is mentally ill. He stands in front of the mirror and argues wae himself then a fight breaks oot and he starts nutting the mirror.... unsure.gif

Thank God he's just a featherweight.
mortonjag 2008-09-28 10:32:58
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 28 2008, 10:30 AM) [snapback]519455[/snapback]
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MJ, perhaps he is a shoddy typist ?

Does he mean anal trimming ?

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I think he's the arse who's always bumming about take offs or something though that could be somebody else. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-28 10:37:17
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 28 2008, 10:27 AM) [snapback]519451[/snapback]
2002/3 - Scottish Third Division

2007/8 - Scottish First Division
That's one example I can think of right away. There are, of course, examples where we haven't 'came a long way' over that time, but that's for another thread I'm sure. smile.gif

That is a perfect illustration of the current malaise at Morton and among many fans.

Five seasons to get out of a crap division full of part timers with part time managers and minimal resources was a bloody farce given our potential.

A fool and his money were indeed easily parted. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-28 10:41:18
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 28 2008, 10:26 AM) [snapback]519450[/snapback]
The team was playing well. Irons must have thought "if it ain't broke don't fix it"

Why make a substitution if there wasn't really a need to. Imagine if he brought on all the subs and we lost 2-1 rolleyes.gif

Things were going reasonably well and we were heading for 3 points, all we had to do was keep things ticking over until the final whistle.
As far as the subs went, for Irons it was damned if you do. damned if you don't



QUOTE(The Naitch @ Sep 28 2008, 10:28 AM) [snapback]519452[/snapback]
Couldn't have put it better myself.

Well gentlemen, he was damned because he didn't, and don't tell me Jenkins wouldn't have pushed them even further back-probably Kev as well.

Irons-I firmly believe- has it in for Jenks right now. I could be wrong. I wonder if any other posters agree with me.
mortonjag 2008-09-28 11:36:42
QUOTE(irnbru @ Sep 28 2008, 11:15 AM) [snapback]519469[/snapback]
I've been asking that all season!!!

Seriously the debate on whether paartalu was good or bad shows that he was involved in the game. I'd much rather that than some chancer who hides for most of it!

As for Chris Smith, i wouldn't got as far as the Dale comparison but he's no better than the likes of Sean Dillon. Flatters to deceive by making last ditch tackles/clearances to make up for his own mistakes. No better than a 3rd division player at best. Hopefully he's just a stop gap as he doesn't add to the team and hasn't got the quality to help see us up the league and indeed challenge over time.

Guess it's all about opinions!

How many mistakes did he make yesterday which put us in any real danger?

He's only 19 and was up against Kevin Harper- a very experienced and tricky winger on his day. The boy incidentally had one superb clearance off the goal line. The way I see it is that he's young and inexperienced, but he reads the game well and early. OK he's a bit guilty of being pulled out of position but that will improve, and his timing of those 'last ditch' tackles is actually pretty damned good if you ask me.

I think he's one for the future.
mortonjag 2008-09-28 11:38:50
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 28 2008, 11:29 AM) [snapback]519472[/snapback]
PM for this pi5h

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What's Ryan's screen name?
mortonjag 2008-09-28 11:40:21
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Sep 28 2008, 11:28 AM) [snapback]519471[/snapback]
I went to the bathroom ten minutes ago done a big keech saluted it named it Barry Lavety and sent it on its way.

So it wasn't named after Keech Wright?
mortonjag 2008-09-28 11:41:58
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 28 2008, 10:55 AM) [snapback]519463[/snapback]
Spurtle Colkitto

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Hugh Janus.
mortonjag 2008-09-28 11:47:37
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 28 2008, 11:46 AM) [snapback]519481[/snapback]
People are forgetting the three or four good crosses Smith put into the box aswell, he didn't seem scared to come forward espescially in the first half and delivered a few good crosses into the box, cant remember the last time a fullback did that for us.

I doubt he'll ever be good enough if we actually want to finish in the top half of this league, but for now he'll do.

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mortonjag 2008-09-28 11:50:49
QUOTE(Last Boat Home @ Sep 28 2008, 11:46 AM) [snapback]519482[/snapback]
MJ you really need to control yourself, if you continue to affirm my postings with self indulgent pish like this my job will be done - give them enough rope and all that laugh.gif

It's very hard to be modest when one is perfect! angel.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-28 11:52:56
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 28 2008, 11:47 AM) [snapback]519484[/snapback]
it was HardingsHamstring until even he realised he was pish and changed it to GreacensGenitals. You know its bad when you're so ashamed of yourself that you have to change your screen name.

I just sent my nice message to Greacen's Genitals and the reply was:

F*ck off you boring old c*nt.
mortonjag 2008-09-28 11:54:41 laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-28 12:05:44
QUOTE(mortonboi @ Sep 28 2008, 12:01 PM) [snapback]519492[/snapback]
jim was exellent today tracked back well and took players on and put in a couple of good crosses harding wis pish as usual and shimmin and smith were exellent so the only playerts that never got past marks were wakey harding and walker

Wakey scored two bloody goals.

WAKEY WAKEY!!! blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-28 12:06:40
QUOTE(MrX @ Sep 28 2008, 12:05 PM) [snapback]519495[/snapback]
No composure, not good enough, headless chicken.

Effort - (quality + composure + ruthlessness) = Russell

signed


Brian Graham.
mortonjag 2008-09-28 12:07:55
QUOTE(Last Boat Home @ Sep 28 2008, 12:04 PM) [snapback]519494[/snapback]
I wanted to call our first born Andrew after the great man himself - unfortunately she was a girl. I did however insist that the wedding (before MJ or NewTon chuck in their tuppence worth the wedding came before the weans,) was colour coordinated blue/white/yellow with a Morton player on the cake.

Actually, now I think about it I’m not sure if I should be bragging about this ph34r.gif

Fairy cake- I take it?
mortonjag 2008-09-28 12:09:54
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 28 2008, 12:07 PM) [snapback]519502[/snapback]
E=MC2

careful Spurtle-that little smartass SPARROT will be pulling you up for not having your '2' in exactly the right place. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-28 12:12:03
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 28 2008, 12:01 PM) [snapback]519493[/snapback]
if your heading over to Cowal, drop in the papers on the way by.

Only over to Milton of Campsie and back I'm afraid!


Toodle pip! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-28 13:11:23
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 28 2008, 01:08 PM) [snapback]519533[/snapback]
I piped the parade of the opening of their gala day/fete a couple of years back.

Fact smile.gif

It is my partner's stamping ground! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-28 13:21:02
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 28 2008, 12:05 PM) [snapback]519496[/snapback]
It's quite cute how much the Jag loves wee Russell even missing an absolutely outstanding change!

What are you babbling about? The change was right in front of me-FOR MY BENEFIT! He wears lovely underpants.

QUOTE(Last Boat Home @ Sep 28 2008, 12:27 PM) [snapback]519509[/snapback]
I thought McAllister had an excellent game and is by far the closest thing to a decent footballer we have!

Russell is never a right midfielder and Wake should have been taken off shortly after he scored with Russell pushed up front and Jenkins replacing him. Big Eric was dead on his feet with twenty minutes to go and should also have been subbed.

On the subject of Jenkins, I looked over at Irons when the Pars scored and he was distraught with his head in his hands - fallout or no fallout I don’t subscribe to the theory that Jenkins is not getting a game because he has had words with Irons. I’m sure DI puts out what he considers to be his best team - his job depends on it!

What Jimbo does well he does very well-that's the problem, and 'closest thing' is apt. If he could just find a finish to those amazing runs he WOULD be amazing. As it stands he's a big disappointment to me.

I was close enough to watch Mr Irons throughout the game. I'm sure he would have subbed anybody to get on that pitch-he just can't give his players a minute's peace, and I'm convinced Jenkins is being 'left out in the cold'.

All stick, and no carrot, he has much to learn if he's ever going to succeed in man management.
mortonjag 2008-09-28 13:27:23
QUOTE(MrX @ Sep 28 2008, 12:46 PM) [snapback]519523[/snapback]
Most of the teams in this league are roughly the same level, fr me its all about taking your chances when they come. We've been unable to do that, whilst other teams have and we've been punished as a result.

Make hay when the sunshines and all that.

Make chances and even average strikers will score and all that.

You're talking utter bollocks. Why should Russell not be allowed to play as a bloody striker-because we've got no wingers and no creative midfielders to MAKE chances-AND in complete madness we let Newby go out on loan.

Who is to blame for that? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-28 13:29:23
QUOTE(Last Boat Home @ Sep 28 2008, 12:34 PM) [snapback]519512[/snapback]
That noose must be getting tight by now unsure.gif

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The 'noose'!

What a joke-you can't hang the immortal.
mortonjag 2008-09-28 13:36:50
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Sep 28 2008, 01:10 PM) [snapback]519534[/snapback]
7 years ago the club had basically nothing. No players, no kit, no Cowshed, no decent playing surface, no commercial side, no relationship with the local media, no crowd.

Cappielow has it's cowshed back, with some seats down the front, it has a new tannoy system, there are now toilets in the cowshed, and better catering facilities. There are new floodlights, the entrance area is much improved. The drainage system for the pitch was repaired, and we've given a good groundsman all he needs to make sure the pitch is always in top condition (from fertiliser to machinery).

We have a new training ground, and arrangements so that we can train all year round.

We got the crowds back. We invested significantly in Alex Williams (to be kicked in the teeth), and this was a sign that the club was back, and was ambitious. The crowds came back in more numbers than for well over a decade. We are now back in the first division.

The club now has a much improved website, has facilities to sell merchandise before games, has hospitality at games.

In many ways improvements have been slow, but they have been made. And we have come a long way in the past 7 years.

The downsides are that progress with the youth system has been very slow, and commercial progress has continually been slow.

But the only real failure (but don't get me wrong, it's a big failure), is to bring in the right coaching staff to take the club forward. Jim McInally was the wrong man, and that cost us. And now it seems that DI is the wrong man.

But that's what happens at football clubs, sometimes things go wrong on the playing side. But I don't feel like our club should be higher than it is at the moment, and I can accept that progress will be slow at times.


I fundamentally disagree with your perception of 'having come a long way'. Money has been frittered away hand over fist on ridiculous appointments which have engendered negative return. The commercial side is a morass, while public relations are non existent. The Youth System was deliberately abandoned. Crowds are dropping and interest has effectively gone.

Following your argument to its logical conclusion we'll have an SPL compliant stadium and be bottom of the Third division.

BINGO!
mortonjag 2008-09-28 13:39:55
QUOTE(Morton_T.I.D @ Sep 28 2008, 01:19 PM) [snapback]519539[/snapback]
Will there be a video clip of the "goal" we scored.

Nope-it's already impounded at Hampden. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-28 13:42:51
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 28 2008, 01:41 PM) [snapback]519550[/snapback]
no logic there, MJ.

With our on field performances, surely the suspension of the Cappielow upgrade is INDEFINITE ! ? ! ?

huh.gif huh.gif huh.gif

Precisely-his argument is entirely illogical.
mortonjag 2008-09-28 13:44:34
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 28 2008, 01:28 PM) [snapback]519543[/snapback]
Your partner still uses stamps ?

She is a snail mail girl ?

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Oops - I apologise for assuming her sex.

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He/she is first class!
mortonjag 2008-09-28 13:56:55
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 28 2008, 01:50 PM) [snapback]519554[/snapback]

Confucius he say-man who ride electric bike in for f*cking shock!
mortonjag 2008-09-28 14:02:00
QUOTE(Malt @ Sep 28 2008, 02:00 PM) [snapback]519557[/snapback]
Success is measured on the park, I would say Rae has been, somewhat, poor when it comes to appointing a manager, investing in youth and providing entertaining football. The things that matter for fans!

We won the 3rd division by a very small margin, took us a lot longer than expected to get back to the first, there is still no real youth setup and we could see another managerial casualty during Willy Wonka's reign as Chairman.

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mortonjag 2008-09-28 14:09:13
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 28 2008, 01:32 PM) [snapback]519547[/snapback]
The cell is immortal.

Alexis Carrel

Alexis Carrel went from being a sceptic of the visions and miracles reported at Lourdes to being a believer after experiencing a healing he could not explain.To the detriment of his career and reputation among his fellow doctors, he steadfastly reiterated his beliefs, and even wrote a book describing his experience.

So that's where Mr Rae's off to!

hee hee
mortonjag 2008-09-28 14:16:43
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 28 2008, 02:03 PM) [snapback]519560[/snapback]
He had chances though huh.gif

If you are talking about yesterday-aye hunners and hunners. The best chance to score that vital telling first goal was utterly scorned by the most over rated player in the squad in the first half. He hadn't even the composure to get his shot on target! A damnable mistake if ever I saw one! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-28 14:31:12
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 28 2008, 02:25 PM) [snapback]519567[/snapback]
Finlayson for Russell was a glaringly obvious sub after 70 minutes: pace and added fitness on the right had side in addition to better defensive cover, as Rasta says. I'm not saying it would have prevented the goal, but I was disappointed that he didn't change it. I guess he wished not to disrupt the rhythym of the side...

rhythm
–noun
1. movement or procedure with uniform or patterned recurrence of a beat, accent, or the like.
mortonjag 2008-09-28 14:33:16
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 28 2008, 02:30 PM) [snapback]519571[/snapback]
McGuffie could come in pace of Paartalu...

Come together?
mortonjag 2008-09-28 14:40:36
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 28 2008, 02:38 PM) [snapback]519577[/snapback]
f*** off, you tedious c***.

Dear, dear, how are the mighty fallen! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-28 17:34:17
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 28 2008, 03:28 PM) [snapback]519594[/snapback]
Is Hot Chocolate an alias for Sugar Rae ?

Are you having thoughts of meltdown?
mortonjag 2008-09-28 17:35:43
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 28 2008, 02:49 PM) [snapback]519583[/snapback]
7. Procedure or routine characterized by regularly recurring elements, activities, or factors:

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mortonjag 2008-09-28 17:41:37
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 28 2008, 02:45 PM) [snapback]519581[/snapback]
No; I just tire of arguing with a sad delusional old man with nothing better to do with his time than create pish aliases in order to soothe his ever-worsening "LOOK AT MEEE!" attention seeking disorder.
You seem to think that by plastering your opinion x thousand times a day across the board that it somehow adds credence to your mix of half-truths, opinion and speculative nonsense. It doesn't. It just makes you a tedious c***.

Thank f*ck-you're a wearisome and self opinionated little arse. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-28 17:49:48
QUOTE(MrX @ Sep 28 2008, 02:41 PM) [snapback]519579[/snapback]
Sorry, you're talking utter bollocks. You talk pish on here all the time and I very much doubt you've ever kicked a ball in your life. Agree about the wingers, but Newby was complete pish too.

You appear to have some desperate desire to down Iain Russell sonny boy. Maybe he's scored with your girlfriend!

When you grow up and start to see the bigger picture, that will be the time for you to understand Mortonjag. For now I suggest you attempt to impress your peers.

mortonjag 2008-09-28 17:51:14
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 28 2008, 04:46 PM) [snapback]519617[/snapback]
Gidday SmithsTON,

It is public, mate.

MJ has already told us that he would love nothing more than a wee visit to Wellington Aotearoa and to watch the Wellington Phoenix with you.

Does he need to pack his wellies ?

It looks like it was pretty sunny yesterday.

Could you please hold MJ's hand at Westpac Stadium.

He's not used to big crowds like 6,729.

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mortonjag 2008-09-28 17:54:42
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Sep 28 2008, 04:33 PM) [snapback]519613[/snapback]
So will Toby and Gerry rolleyes.gif

I think Toby and Gerry and many others would be better prepared than last time. The yellow bellied serpent would be exposed and ceremonially roasted.

CREEP
mortonjag 2008-09-28 18:02:54
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Sep 28 2008, 04:35 PM) [snapback]519614[/snapback]
ARSE.....pm me your details and we will discuss that in person.....

Fed up with all your pish on this board. For a man of your supposive intellect you dont
half come over as a TIT.

Again if you want to discuss in person pm me your details...

Either put up or shut up

Mortonjag does not attack. If you wish to pick arguments choose somebody of your own limited intellect please. rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Sep 28 2008, 05:18 PM) [snapback]519625[/snapback]
I know...i know....

Just think hes a prime candidate for euthanasia

Ill step back....


As I said-your limited intellect lets you down repeatedly.

The highlighted comment is unacceptable.

You and your friend Vader's recent attacks merely represent the death throes of the weasel scumbag insider criticism to which Mortonjag has regularly been subjected.

Mr Rae would be SO proud. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-28 18:08:37
QUOTE(C B @ Sep 28 2008, 05:40 PM) [snapback]519635[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-09-28 18:22:44
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 28 2008, 06:11 PM) [snapback]519650[/snapback]
Ladies and gentlemen of the jury; I give you:
....your witness!

I haven't a clue what you're attempting to prove, Puggs, but your puerile bahaviour often lets you down badly.

It's quite simple-I NEVER attack unless I'm attacked first.

Do you believe that describing somebody as 'a prime candidate for euthanasia' falls into the same category as my deliberately scathing ripostes?

As I've said of you before, you would do better to spend some time on serious comment.

After all, you keep telling us you're 'a bright lad'! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-28 18:25:35
QUOTE(Savo @ Sep 28 2008, 06:23 PM) [snapback]519655[/snapback]
That's a pretty despicable statement there sad.gif

Thanks Savo-I just wish the insiders would give up their bitter and pointless attacks.
mortonjag 2008-09-29 06:39:23
QUOTE(allenton @ Sep 28 2008, 06:31 PM) [snapback]519658[/snapback]
I felt the team did a lot better today. I think if supporters keep talking the club and performances down then we will all need to visit our GP for prozac. Get behind the team and stop all the negative nonsense.

Morton supporters have a history of great loyalty to the 'Club' and the teams.

It's always nice to hear somebody like yourself trying to be positive, but it's the positively atrocious way the Club is being run which has finally seen most lose patience.

As Wonko said, and as I do, he gets behind the lads at every game. This is the place to complain - with a minute caveat since you're a new poster. Whisper you complaints or folk will be offering you euthanasia and hoping you die of cancer.

As I said initially-some have great 'loyalty' to the club.
mortonjag 2008-09-29 06:55:00
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Sep 28 2008, 09:06 PM) [snapback]519685[/snapback]
Much as you get a lot of unfair stick, you are one condescending auld git at times and it's unnecessary.

Thanks for the comment highlighted GG.

I'm feeling a wee bit peed off this morning-sometimes the 'stick' I get is a lot worse than unfair.

What do you make of two Cappielow insiders within a few hours of each other wishing cancer and euthanasia on me? I believe one of the posters has been 'warned'.

Now-let's look at this Mr X situation where you've seen fit to have a wee go!

I don't know the poster at all. So far as I'm aware we've never crossed swords in any way. Out of the blue he starts a post attacking (unfairly I believe) a player who works his baws off, and after I make a non contentious comment in Russell's support he comes away with:


Sorry, you're talking utter bollocks. You talk pish on here all the time and I very much doubt you've ever kicked a ball in your life.

........and you've the cheek to call MY response 'condescending'!!

I'm beginning to realsise GG that folk just read my posts in isolation and never bother about the preamble. mellow.gif


mortonjag 2008-09-29 07:02:25
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Sep 29 2008, 12:38 AM) [snapback]519721[/snapback]
Russell's miss was every bit as bad as Jim's, probably worse.

Two blacks etc!


I'm just thinking that in the 'headless chicken' stakes Jimbo is miles ahead. That's what frustrates me. His play can be compared to getting a letter telling you you've won a million quid till you turn over the page and it says:

'Only joking'. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-29 07:05:03 If we were playing well I doubt if we'd have 'dream' threads about players we can't afford.
mortonjag 2008-09-29 07:09:30
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 28 2008, 09:21 PM) [snapback]519693[/snapback]
I'm bigger than you and allegedly my opinion is not my own but that of various books... rolleyes.gif

Are you very big? unsure.gif

QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Sep 28 2008, 10:27 PM) [snapback]519707[/snapback]
I am still puzzled at this, if the guy annoys you so much, why not put him on ignore? You have to react to anything he says that pisses you off, thats on you! rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 28 2008, 11:58 PM) [snapback]519712[/snapback]
The ignore function is rendered irrelevant by the sheer volume of his posts and the certainty that they'll be quoted.

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mortonjag 2008-09-29 09:27:22
QUOTE(Last Boat Home @ Sep 29 2008, 08:42 AM) [snapback]519736[/snapback]
Is this some sort of confession?

Do you take them regularly?

Do you prescribe them for yourself?

Being a medical practitioner can you not get yourself some help for this peculiar condition huh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-09-29 10:14:01
QUOTE(MrX @ Sep 29 2008, 10:03 AM) [snapback]519747[/snapback]
I'm sorry if these opinions come 'out of the blue', its only because I don't post on here a hundred times a day like some laugh.gif I'm sorry if my opinion of your blue-eyed boy disagrees with your bullet proof view of all things Morton, but its not only you and some other regular posters who are entiltled to an opinion .

And when you make childlike comments like,

"When you grow up and start to see the bigger picture, that will be the time for you to understand Mortonjag. For now I suggest you attempt to impress your peers."

You just come across as an old plonker with an over-inflated opinion of himself.
And as for understanding you Mortonjag, I'm not really overly bothered, you're not that important to me.... sorry.

It had absolutely nothing to do with my opinion about Iain Russell, or yours for that matter, and EVERYTHING to do with your initial comment (BEFORE I'D SAID ANYTHING TO YOU) viz.

Sorry, you're talking utter bollocks. You talk pish on here all the time and I very much doubt you've ever kicked a ball in your life
.


That comment was unwarranted and deliberately provocative, and implied that my opinions were worthless, which makes your current post utterly ludicrous.

Anyway it's nice to know that you're 'not really bothered' and that I'm 'not that important to you'.

The fact that you bothered to post your defensive response suggests otherwise, and the moral of the story is:

'Let sleeping dogs lie'. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-29 10:22:57
QUOTE(Savo @ Sep 29 2008, 10:08 AM) [snapback]519749[/snapback]
How a move from Morton to Falkirk could possibly be construed as a sideways step is beyond me.
They are an established SPL club with players being capped at U-21 and full international level.
The difference between Morton and Falkirk at the present moment is pretty stark and there is no point pretending otherwise.

That is unfortunately so true, and extremely sad, as the potential fan base for Morton is significantly larger than Falkirk's.

I get fed up hearing us described as a 'small' club. The truth is that excluding the seven well established City Clubs, no Scottish side is significantly bigger than the Ton could and should be.

I've believed for some time that a 'Mileson' figure-not a Romanov or Abramovic, but somebody with money and sufficient genuine interest in our club-could make us a profitable SPL outfit in a matter of two or three seasons-perhaps even less dependent on his initial outlay.

That's the main reason for my continuing quest to discover Alistair Donald's real intentions.
mortonjag 2008-09-29 10:27:04
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 29 2008, 10:23 AM) [snapback]519753[/snapback]
Eh, Happy 18th Birthday. blink.gif

Chill out, go and get a few sherberts and pull some bird.

He's already been sent a birthday card from his Uncle Ernie!
mortonjag 2008-09-29 10:35:53
QUOTE(Davie @ Sep 29 2008, 10:33 AM) [snapback]519755[/snapback]
Aye, hilarious. blink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-09-29 11:36:34
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 29 2008, 11:28 AM) [snapback]519760[/snapback]
I bet that will really make his day.

It was sent with every good wish.
mortonjag 2008-09-29 11:39:51
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 29 2008, 11:13 AM) [snapback]519759[/snapback]
He's always been the favourite Ernie in my life, sorry MJ.

No offence taken my Dear. I've always loved Muppet shows and faithfully go to Cappielow.
mortonjag 2008-09-29 12:58:44
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 29 2008, 12:51 PM) [snapback]519770[/snapback]
Yes, I make Port-ton look like a dwarf...
Aw thanks. wub.gif

Don't mention it-and it WAS sincere. I reckon that tall gangly glaicet looking fag o' mine's about six feet two so you must make Puggs look like Toulouse Lautrec! [attachment=4603:th_toulo..._lautrec.jpg]
mortonjag 2008-09-29 13:13:33
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Sep 29 2008, 01:11 PM) [snapback]519777[/snapback]
Ryan Harding is terrible, a honking defender who makes massive mistakes far too often!

Once again he has cost us points, sick of it.

I don't think i've ever hated a Morton player as much as i hate him.

GET YERSELF TAE f*** HARDING!

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mortonjag 2008-09-29 16:14:19
QUOTE(Muz @ Sep 29 2008, 02:46 PM) [snapback]519816[/snapback]
Glad to see someone noticed this on Saturday- everyone's quick to blame Russell for the miss after this, and a shocker it was too.....but he shouldn't have HAD to miss it.

McAlister's "pass" to Wake, behind him when they were running through was horrendous, and resulted in Wake breaking his stride, and then the only option was to play in Russell who blazed it over. If McAlister had played Wake in I'm sure the big man would have put it away.

As for Wake and he shouldnt have been on for last 30, I agree as he was completely knackered. But who to bring on????

Partaalu is completely gash and has baws like a mouse. Doesnt want the ball at all and looks to get rid of it at every opportunity. Should be dropped immediately.

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mortonjag 2008-09-29 16:19:41 I've been reading all the nice comments about my wee Nephew from Embra. Some of you lot would make a witches coven look like a knitting bee! laugh.gif

He's actually a better footballer than McAlister and makes less mistakes. The only difference is in where they play! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-29 16:23:28
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 29 2008, 03:27 PM) [snapback]519837[/snapback]
Morton will remain my team, i could not contemplate anyone else. BUT its f***ing boring, and I mean f***ING boring. I am sick of tossing around at the bottom of what is a very mediocre league.

If the owners cannot take us any further, and there isn't a ready replacement unsure.gif we have nothing, and i mean NOTHING to look forward too.
Its bloody miserable just now.
Fed up, pissed off, scunnered, sickened but most of all bored, extremely bored.

Someone posted that they enjoyed the game on Saturday, I can only assume the second half was dramatically better than the first as you know Savo I bolted to the pub as I could not endure anymore of the bollocks on display.

I posted I have seen worse from Morton in my life, but that was poorly paid, mostly part time players who gave their all despite being rubbish. This lot are well paid, full time pro's who don't seem to care an awful lot as long as the wages are paid. And no amount of crying to their old boss is going to help the situation.

Big Girls Blouses, get your fingers out your arses and start producing the goods.

Twas my good self Barbie!

I now await the abuse for saying something positive! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-29 16:27:12 I just can't believe how illogical you lot can be.

Irons should have substituted Pantaloons and Russell with about twenty minutes to go.

How can you say-substitututions COST us the game. IMO NOT doing the right thing at the right time because HE WAS SH!T scared to change anything, cost us a consolidating second goal. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-29 16:29:45
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 29 2008, 02:57 PM) [snapback]519821[/snapback]
Oh come on MJ. You're a big boy and you can take it as much as you dosh it out.

Who is MJ, Peter?
mortonjag 2008-09-29 16:32:23
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Sep 29 2008, 04:20 PM) [snapback]519888[/snapback]
A defeat on Saturday and it'll probably be ta ta the noo for Irons. But that will depress me even more. Where would we go from there? 5 managers in 7 years ? Something seriously wrong somewhere surely.

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QUOTE(David Edwards @ Sep 29 2008, 04:25 PM) [snapback]519900[/snapback]
biggrin.gif Indeed. A blind man sees and states the obvious.

Would that this had always been so!
mortonjag 2008-09-29 17:19:27
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 29 2008, 04:47 PM) [snapback]519918[/snapback]
It's my pet name for you Douglas.

I dislike pet names Peter. I once had a dog called JM. He bit me and had to be put down.
mortonjag 2008-09-29 17:25:45
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Sep 29 2008, 04:36 PM) [snapback]519908[/snapback]
Shouting, and jumping up and down with flailing arms doesn't necessarily mean that you care more than a less demonstrative individual. And so far, the 'caring demonstrations' haven't had an effect on the results. Right now we look like relegation candidates, I sincerely hope Irons can turn things round, but he will realise himself that he's on borrowed time.

Irons' behaviour in the 'technical' area is becoming more erratic by the week. He bawls instructions from beginning to end, and is constantly calling players over for wee briefings. You can see by the body language that they don't pay the slightest heed. He disputes EVERY decision against us with the ref and linesman, even when it's obviously been a complete 50/50.

I remember watching us beat Gretna at Palmerston when his behaviour was exactly the same. I don't think he can help himself, and I don't think it helps the players at all.
mortonjag 2008-09-29 17:31:40
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 29 2008, 05:27 PM) [snapback]519948[/snapback]
Exactly what he is not, and one of the reasons I don't think he will last. DDF was reduced to talking to Irons on the pitch as he has tried to keep the old yin out the dressing room.

Did nobody tell DI that DDF is the real manager. rolleyes.gif

...and if God believes he can't control DI/players through the dressing room, he will approach the players individually, and the players will then think they can gripe to God behind DI's back. ph34r.gif

It's an old technique called 'divide and rule' of which Mr Rae is a past master, and it's been killing the club he 'saved' for a long, long time.
mortonjag 2008-09-29 17:33:36
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Sep 29 2008, 05:29 PM) [snapback]519952[/snapback]
blink.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif I await your reasoning on that one.

You may wait a long time Ratarse! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-29 17:43:30
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 29 2008, 05:36 PM) [snapback]519956[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-09-29 18:00:46
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 29 2008, 05:52 PM) [snapback]519968[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(big B @ Sep 29 2008, 05:49 PM) [snapback]519965[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Why not people are on here stating he is the problem let him know at the games.
Shhhh, Donkey Dave is on and we all know the duplicity he displays. Damn, too late, he will have already taken note and sent it first class morse code to the old yin.

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mortonjag 2008-09-29 19:16:19
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Sep 29 2008, 06:55 PM) [snapback]520008[/snapback]
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Wise words.

Flagpole snail?
mortonjag 2008-09-29 19:20:41 Would two or three excellent results be enough? Has DI just gone through a spell of incredibly bad luck? Those things DO happen in football. We're not quite a quarter of the way along the journey. Maybe it's too early to 'phone the undertakers.
mortonjag 2008-09-29 19:24:15
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 29 2008, 07:21 PM) [snapback]520014[/snapback]
Is Viagra still free on the NHS?

Nothing is free on the NHS!
mortonjag 2008-09-29 19:26:29
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 29 2008, 07:25 PM) [snapback]520017[/snapback]
Not even the snip?

ESPECIALLY not the snip!!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-29 19:28:11
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 29 2008, 07:26 PM) [snapback]520019[/snapback]
that is not strictly true

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I'm sure you're about to explain! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-29 19:28:57
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 29 2008, 07:27 PM) [snapback]520022[/snapback]
Alcohol.

RU18?
mortonjag 2008-09-29 19:38:24
QUOTE(se65an @ Sep 29 2008, 07:28 PM) [snapback]520025[/snapback]
Of course!
Are you being serious, are people that gullable

Sean-you say you worked in insurance. There's one point I'd like to make and you can comment as an 'expert'.

Folk are saying Kaney will lose his NCB anyway.

Am I correct in stating that under the terms of his insurance argeement he's only obliged to REPORT the accident, giving full details. He can add a wee letter making it very clear that 'This is submitted as a 'no fault' claim'. If his insurance company can have the full cost met by the other party his NCB should be unaffected????

mortonjag 2008-09-29 19:48:30
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 29 2008, 07:46 PM) [snapback]520037[/snapback]
I was not, I was just stating that to some the NHS is 100% free.

Don't start me! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-29 20:18:47
QUOTE(midTONs @ Sep 29 2008, 07:51 PM) [snapback]520040[/snapback]
I was not trying to, just stating that your previous post was not necessarily fact.

What I meant was that SOMEBODY always has to pay! It's not as if wee Nickerless raids Bawheid's secret stash when he's out in the garden shed studying Mein Kampf.
mortonjag 2008-09-29 20:26:41
QUOTE(Jackie @ Sep 29 2008, 07:37 PM) [snapback]520031[/snapback]
I can understand the gullable comment, that's fair enough but what is the point in lying when the truths already on your side? As my teachers were forever telling me "keep it simple, stupid."

Lying will always come back to get you.

I wish it was all so simple Jackie. My experience of life has confirmed to me without a shadow of doubt that-at least in this society- the honest guys rarely win.

I'm sure it all gets sorted out on the day of judgement.

There must be justice somewhere!

mortonjag 2008-09-29 20:27:51
QUOTE(Zutons @ Sep 29 2008, 08:21 PM) [snapback]520052[/snapback]
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Tell Laura I love her.
mortonjag 2008-09-29 20:31:52
QUOTE(Deego @ Sep 29 2008, 08:28 PM) [snapback]520059[/snapback]
ya b*****d. laugh.gif

Who's the p***k with the guitar?
mortonjag 2008-09-29 20:33:31
QUOTE(Zutons @ Sep 29 2008, 08:31 PM) [snapback]520061[/snapback]
Wrong, Each person has two guesses.

It wasn't a guess-it's the name of a HAUNTING OLD CHOON!
mortonjag 2008-09-29 20:36:40
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Sep 29 2008, 08:33 PM) [snapback]520064[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(big B @ Sep 29 2008, 05:24 PM) [snapback]519944[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Or Irons could grow a set of baws and tell him to F-C- off and stay away from thing that don't concern him, Rae may be the owner but the dressingroom and team matters are sacrosanct and he employed the manager let him manage. So Dougie if you do read this rag stay away.

Some Morton fans think it's fine for Rae to get involved in team matters because he owns the club. Halfwits like that are an issue as well.

They know who they are. dry.gif

EXCELLENT POINT-and if the old fud were finally to succeed in doing a Hugh's Cot, they would hold their hands up and protest 'Ah didnae ken' ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-30 06:37:34 Many happy returns to Padre Gamgee and Irn Bru blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-30 06:40:56
QUOTE(jpmil @ Sep 29 2008, 09:44 PM) [snapback]520101[/snapback]
You are completely correct. He is on my ignore list but he is quoted so often in replies that it is totally impossible to avoid his input of verbal diarrhoea. However one can but hope that he finally runs out of steam as it seems impossible to maintain such a volume of postings. The again I may be undestimating the man!

That's one of the kindest things I've ever heard from a 'huff buttoner'. Shame you'll never know you pleased the forum's vital spark! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-30 06:43:32
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Sep 29 2008, 10:20 PM) [snapback]520118[/snapback]
What kind of put down did you give him? " your mangey, you smell when you've been out in the rain...you dont even try to find a job..and dont give me the 'your just a dog' excuse JM!!! rolleyes.gif

I was replying to a fellow poster.
mortonjag 2008-09-30 06:51:44
QUOTE(jpmil @ Sep 29 2008, 09:30 PM) [snapback]520095[/snapback]
There are recurring statements on here about DDFR's interference in the dressing room BUT does anyone have proof of this or is it just the rumour factory working overtime?????

When circumstantial evidence is overwhelming; when Rae engages DI in 15 minute pre match briefings on the pitch at away matches, and openly tells folk at hospitality that 'he helped pick today's side' we still have the 'jpmil's of this world. No wonder Santa Claus is still as popular as shagging.

QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Sep 29 2008, 09:35 PM) [snapback]520098[/snapback]
I think 'was' would be correct word would it not? I can't believe a Doctor put together a sentence like that, but then again ........... laugh.gif laugh.gif

You think wrongly Anus. Why do you needlessly make an arse of yourself? wub.gif


The Subjunctive Mood

A verb is in the subjunctive mood when it expresses a condition which is doubtful or not factual. It is most often found in a clause beginning with the word if. It is also found in clauses following a verb that expresses a doubt, a wish, regret, request, demand, or proposal.

These are verbs typically followed by clauses that take the subjunctive:

ask, demand, determine, insist, move, order, pray, prefer, recommend, regret, request, require, suggest, and wish.

In English there is no difference between the subjunctive and normal, or indicative, form of the verb except for the present tense third person singular and for the verb to be.

The subjunctive for the present tense third person singular drops the -s or -es so that it looks and sounds like the present tense for everything else.

The subjunctive mood of the verb to be is be in the present tense and were in the past tense, regardless of what the subject is.

Incorrect: If I was you, I would run.

Correct: If I were you, I would run.

(The verb follows if and expresses a non-factual condition.)

Incorrect: I wish he was able to type faster.

Correct: I wish he were able to type faster.
(The second verb is in a clause following a verb expressing a wish. It also suggests a non-factual or doubtful condition.)
mortonjag 2008-09-30 07:00:42
QUOTE(Mark_Pickering @ Sep 29 2008, 10:52 PM) [snapback]520125[/snapback]
live is life

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mortonjag 2008-09-30 07:05:40
QUOTE(port-ton @ Sep 30 2008, 03:22 AM) [snapback]520146[/snapback]
We were on top of them the whole game apart from when the wind and rain made it impossible for us to attack in the firs thalf, they never looked like scoring. We should have scored more but our strikers did their job, they gave us the lead which is what they're paid to do, it was the defences job to maintain that lead for us espescially going into the last 5 minutes of a game. Smith was diving into tackles, Shimmin was brilliant as usual and Walker didn't do much wrong, that leaves Harding who continually lost his battles for headers and who s*** out of at least 5 tackles in the game before the one that cost us the goal. He shouldn't even be on the park when he's playing like that nevermind being captain.

Don't get what you mean blame the whole game on mate, we were excellent for 80 odd minutes and yet again Ryan Hardings lack of concentration has cost us, it isn't the first time and unfortunately it won't be the last time.

Ryan Harding is also to blame for the rising cost of living, the credit crunch, this year's bad summer, and my brother's piles.
mortonjag 2008-09-30 07:14:48 I sincerely believe that if Mr Rae had been willing to delegate totally the running of the Club from day one, we could currently be in the SPL and profitable.

That would have taken vision and experience but COULD have been achieved on the strength of Golden Casket's dosh-of that I'm convinced.

It would have required financial vision and experience on the playing side. People with such skills exist. Some may have regarded the re-born Ton as a real challenge.

For me that is the greatest sadness of all.

Rae will NEVER be remembered for saving Morton if he contrives to choke it to death.
mortonjag 2008-09-30 08:05:12
QUOTE(TAFKAC @ Sep 30 2008, 07:20 AM) [snapback]520163[/snapback]
You are right. The thing that annoys me the most, and helps keep me on the left, is the double speak of free-marketeers. We are expected to let the market set the price when things are hunky-dory, but not when the doo-doo is hitting the fan. My mortgage is with the Principality, one of the few mutuals left. Are there any other mutuals left?
Irrespective of who wins the next election. Governments can cope with high unemployment, as shown when that woman was in charge. But they can't cope with the high inflation that your suggested 10% would lead to. The flip of a 10% mortgage rate is similar savings rate. It would be just like printing money and Keynes' theory of Aggregate Demand doesn't really work these days. No Government would survive if they let that happen.







The interest rates have fluctuated wildly over the last 30 years, reaching a massive 17% in Nov 1979 during one of the boom bust cycles of last century
mortonjag 2008-09-30 08:08:32 Losing
Again
Under
Rae's
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mortonjag 2008-09-30 08:44:16
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 30 2008, 08:26 AM) [snapback]520169[/snapback]
No you weren't, you were playing our little game of Dougie and Peter. It's a wee bit like Hamish and Dougal on 'I'm Sorry I Haven't a Clue'.....now there's an irony given that this is a Morton message board. laugh.gif

I'll have you know I am Douglas, Peter - Dougal is a teuchter name and I am not a teuchter.
mortonjag 2008-09-30 08:46:58
QUOTE(forza ton @ Sep 30 2008, 08:38 AM) [snapback]520172[/snapback]
i remember saying on here a year or so ago that the rampant and obscene version of capitalism prevalent in today's world was going to take us all up s*** creek. some agreed some didn't. i suppose it was obvious really but who's gonna carry the can? not the top men anyway - they never do.

i'm no communist but for capitalism to work in anything like a fair manner (if possible at all) governments need to keep a reign on things. it's funny how after all the years of privatising our services and gung ho "investments" we're back to a place where nationalisation is no longer a dirty taboo.

here comes a winter of discontent....



QUOTE(Alibi @ Sep 30 2008, 08:43 AM) [snapback]520173[/snapback]
I think in simple terms, the financial institutions were quite happy to take huge profits and huge bonuses when they could. Now that they are making losses, they want the taxpayer, that's you and me, to bail them out. Some of them even want to continue to get their huge bonuses maintained FFS.

Now call me naive, but if my business doesn't make a profit, I don't eat. If I asked the government to bail me out, they'd tell me where to go. I don't think it should be any different for these overpaid parasites - bankers and their like don't actually do anything that benefits society, they don't produce anything - they just leech of those who do. I think it's fair to say I would have very little sympathy for those obscenely overpaid people who are even now trying to line their own pockets while they throw the people who do all the hard work on the scrapheap.

Oh, and on the matter of Bradford and Bingley - isn't it strange how Northern Rock and B&B got helped by the UK government in the way they did, with billions of pounds of OUR money thrown at them, yet when there is a totally false "crisis" with the Bank of Scotland, Gordon Emotionally Crippled Brown fails to offer any support other than trying to grease a sleazy wee stitch up to get them under control of a London-based organisation, purely for his own political ends. Psychologically flawed indeed although some would just say he's a C U Next Tuesday. Oh and BTW does anyone else think Gordon Brown bears a striking similarity to Mussolini when he speaks - it's the sort of half closing of the eyes and the way he turns his nose up, or something like that, but it looks as if Mussolini was his speech coach.

Anyway to get back on topic, I for one don't feel inclined to pay more taxes to help out these parasitical scum.


Greed is an unpleasant sin when one is on the receiving end.
mortonjag 2008-09-30 09:02:53
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Sep 30 2008, 08:58 AM) [snapback]520181[/snapback]
Like Greacen was, Harding has been coached to stay on his feet and only slide in as a last resort. He had a howler for the goal but what other player did'nt make mistakes? How many chances did Russell Wake and McAlister pass up between them, just as a for example! Not putting away our chances cost us the game far more so than anything Harding did.

If the forwards don't score it puts pressure on the back players not to make mistakes but no one is going to go through 90 minutes without making some - not at our level. Sometimes you get lucky and it does'nt cost us a goal (like some of Smith's errors in the first half until he got the measure of Harper). Unfortunately a central defender's errors are always going to look bad because a high percentage will cost a goal.

Harding is a decent footballer who needs to work on his concentration. He's not perfect but he's better than any fit player we have for now - were you at Airdrie? Greacen might replace him when he's fit but there's not much in it imho.

I agree, and in fairness to the strikers, they WILL score if enough chances are made so we then have to look at an unproductive midfield and our lack of width, which takes us back to Davie Irons!
mortonjag 2008-09-30 10:08:36
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 30 2008, 08:45 AM) [snapback]520176[/snapback]
Do you hang your posters on the skirting?

If he did he'd constantly be tripping over the nipples.
mortonjag 2008-09-30 10:17:52
QUOTE(jpmil @ Sep 30 2008, 09:18 AM) [snapback]520186[/snapback]
Is it common knowledge?
I certainly don't have any proof that this was the situation. Have any of the ex-managers or other ex-employees stated publicly that he interferes? I certainly haven't seen any such statements in the press!

It is common knowledge that Mr Rae is wont to get involved in every aspect of the running of the club.

It is common knowledge that he's told at least one poster that he 'helps to pick the sides'.


It is common knowledge that he distracts the Manager from the warm up briefings with lengthy 'chats'.

It is common knowledge that certain posters will fly in the face of all that, in an attempt to suggest that Mr Rae does not 'interfere with the dressing room'!

Do you think that ex-victims of 'Rae rape' are going to post the sordid details of their traumatic experiences all over the tabloids? unsure.gif



mortonjag 2008-09-30 11:50:13
QUOTE(The Hustler @ Sep 30 2008, 11:43 AM) [snapback]520231[/snapback]
I am always slightly dubious when I hear that assistants are "widely credited " for the success of a team. There have been many instances when the assistant has been highly unsuccessful when taking on the mantle of No 1. (Peter Taylor, Brian Kidd, Archie Knox to name but a few)
The reality is that Irons almost blew an unassailable lead when taking over at Gretna in the 1st Div, got stuffed by McInallys Morton who were struggling at the time, had a very poor record with Morton last season which was camouflaged somewhat by 2 victories versus teams who simply didnt turn up (Pars and Thistle) and has had a horrendous start this year with effectively his own team.
The standard of football is dreadful, selections and formations are inconsistent (downright bizarre at Airdrie with his 3-1-3-3) the crowds are down and he has "lost the dressing room". Who knows why he signed Newby in the first place but by letting him go he has left us with no options up front. Sadly the current team will not score enough goals to keep us in the division. And of course our defending has been poor again helped by the inconsistency of selection and the absence of full backs in competitive games. Why would you play two full backs (Reid & Smith) for the majority of pre season and not sign them albeit Smith has eventually been added? Why would anyone give Greachen a 3 year deal? Or sign a 33 year old centre half and give him a 3 year deal? Now we have 4 centre halves a young boy at left back and a converted right back who is overweight and injury prone? Why give Finlayson a 3 year deal? Or Weatherson? Jenkins is possibly our best midfielder and most probably our highest paid player yet he wont play him because Jenkins thinks he`s an incompetent. McAnespie has been on the bench for how many games yet we want rid of him? What is he doing on the bench exactly? I understand that the wage bill has increased significantly yet the team is poor and riddled with players simply not good enough at this level. By dishing out all of those lengthy contracts he has jeapordised our future by saddling us with average players who no one else will be remotely interested in. As for all his jumping up and down and remonstrating with officials over every decision, quite frankly, I find it embarassing and juvenile. I suggest all of you Irons supporters take a wee look at his performance on the Gretna BBC documentary and you will quickly understand why they nearly blew promotion. The sooner he gets sacked the better for all of us.

Best post on the thread by a country mile.
mortonjag 2008-09-30 11:53:01
QUOTE(McCauley87 @ Sep 30 2008, 11:46 AM) [snapback]520232[/snapback]
He came into the shop I was working in on Friday (I work for Ladbrokes) and he was talking away to the guy I was working with who used to play with Russell at Motherwell and so knows a number of the squad quite well and all Deano was saying was criticising Irons about the Caley Thistle game, even though he admitted he never seen the game.

I always like Deano for his commitment and his energy, and it is something that I reckon our midfield is missing at the moment, but he didn';t ahev a great deal of ability yet he obviously seems to think he does from what was said on Friday and then in the Sun yesterday.

Deano wasn't scared to 'have a go'. It would be nice if some of the current midfield could take a lesson from his book.
mortonjag 2008-09-30 12:06:11
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 30 2008, 12:02 PM) [snapback]520238[/snapback]
Its Dougie deflecting the blame. rolleyes.gif biggrin.gif
1 game to go cool.gif

Rae can spin it whatever way he likes till he's blue in the face. He COULD have signed an experienced manager.

HE DIDN'T mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-30 12:07:38
QUOTE(Ghost @ Sep 30 2008, 11:59 AM) [snapback]520237[/snapback]
Although he is still s***e mind you

Diarrhoea may at times be preferable to constipation Ghostie! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-30 12:08:57
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 30 2008, 12:08 PM) [snapback]520247[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif

Don't lose that oar now or you will be up, ach you know where.

Rae's creek?
mortonjag 2008-09-30 12:11:24
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 30 2008, 12:09 PM) [snapback]520250[/snapback]
I trust my prostitutes implicitly ohmy.gif

Where are your business premises?
mortonjag 2008-09-30 12:12:32
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Sep 30 2008, 12:08 PM) [snapback]520248[/snapback]
Aye, but the economy is a bit s***ty too.
Inflation will recede soon if wage rises are pegged back, but even then there's little money left (in the government sectors especially) for pay rises.

I read that too.
mortonjag 2008-09-30 12:16:13
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 30 2008, 12:13 PM) [snapback]520254[/snapback]
Don't give me that one old yin, your barred after the last visit. sad.gif

50p for a blow job from a donkey was not on.
mortonjag 2008-09-30 12:19:12
QUOTE(The Hustler @ Sep 30 2008, 12:07 PM) [snapback]520244[/snapback]
Interesting that he said positive things about McInally though. I seem to recall this forum going overboard in criticising McInally the day he brought Deano on as a sub at Stirling and then took him off 10 minutes later. Certainly Deano was not happy that day with McInally but still has good stuff to say about him. Says a lot about Mcinallys man management qualities.
Clearly a short time with Irons was enough for Deano to make up his mind that he`s a t***. By all accounts a view shared by many of the players.
Time to go Irons.

It may say much more about DI's lack of them .
mortonjag 2008-09-30 12:20:37
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Sep 30 2008, 12:17 PM) [snapback]520257[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(big B @ Sep 30 2008, 05:57 AM) [snapback]520150[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->That is an outrageous statement that some of the players don't try NAME THEM. What I would say to you is a few of them are short on confidence right now but to say that some of them don't try is ridiculous.
yes , absolute P1sh.

Absolut vodka?
mortonjag 2008-09-30 12:24:07
QUOTE(The Hustler @ Sep 30 2008, 12:19 PM) [snapback]520260[/snapback]
I aint Dougie Barbie, just a long suffering supporter.
I wholeheartedly agree that Rae should keep his nose out of the managers affairs. Then maybe I wouldnt have had to suffer the likes of Templeman who is showing his true colours now as he cant get a game with East Fife.
You employ a manager to manage is my view. There is no doubt it is somewhat embarassing for Rae to be in the dressing room giving his pep talks. Maybe Rae is the reason for our failure to get an experienced manager on the many occasions we have been looking for a new manager. Of course he never wanted McInally to leave, he chose to go because of fan abuse.
As far as I'm concerned its definitely a case of "be careful what you wish for". We have ended up with a truly dreadful manager who will get us relegated unless we get rid.

Possibly true, though I'd guess that if he disappears sooner rather than later, it'll more be because he's at least had the passion to ATTEMPT to stand up to God, even if the same passion sees him losing the dressing room and behaving like a clown in the technical area.[attachment=4612:irons.jpg]
mortonjag 2008-09-30 12:26:33
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 30 2008, 12:18 PM) [snapback]520258[/snapback]
Awe c'mon jag, Dave has been practising hard on old men, i'm sure if you returned he will meet your standards now or your 50p back.

Look Fifi, when I ask for a blow job I don't expect a rough tongue up my arse.
mortonjag 2008-09-30 12:30:31
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 30 2008, 12:21 PM) [snapback]520263[/snapback]
Laura

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mortonjag 2008-09-30 12:33:58
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 30 2008, 12:30 PM) [snapback]520274[/snapback]
And McInally was the answer?

We will forever get young managers who are trying to cut their teeth as they are more susceptible to allowing DDF to influence or 'coach' them, any manager worth his salt would throw him out and face the consequences, but remember Morton usually demand a clause when sacking a manager that he is not allowed to discuss what went on.

If DDF has true ambition for Morton he will leave the current manager alone and if he feels it time for DI to go the next manager needs to be a hard nosed b*****d who will

1. Weed out those in the Morton dressing room who don't deserve to pull on our shirt

2. Tell DDF to f*** right off when he attempts to interfere.

But how is this to be implemented, simple it won't, DDF cannot stay out of it. The only option left is for DDF to take charge and we can see if he is as good a manager as he thinks he is.

Bring it on! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-30 12:48:17
QUOTE(The Hustler @ Sep 30 2008, 12:38 PM) [snapback]520280[/snapback]
A new owner, with money to burn and the interests of Morton at heart would be terrific. However is that likely? No-one was intersted when we were at deaths door so why would anyone be interested now? We are a guaranteed money loser, as are most football clubs to be fair and right now Mr Rae is the only individual who seems to be willing to lose his own money. For that we should be grateful.
Until the knight in the white charger arrives we will just need to hope that he bumps Irons and lands lucky by appointing a good manager, with contacts, who can motivate the current set of players and perhaps add a couple of loanees who have a similar impact than McGowan.
What a shame that Dougie didnt dig far deeper to fund the purchase of wee Paul. In the long run he may well have saved himself a lot of cash!

If Mr Donald is to be believed he fulfils those criteria.
mortonjag 2008-09-30 12:51:43
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 30 2008, 12:38 PM) [snapback]520281[/snapback]
That will be another 50p please.
I pay them the on top rate
Forever on the job, up, down, up, down, up.....
I kept a week lieu time for the perverts
They are charged 'extra' for leaving 'deposits'
They blow as a matter of course, profits can be massive.

And unless they give you pro motion you shaft them for their wages?
mortonjag 2008-09-30 12:57:24
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Sep 30 2008, 12:48 PM) [snapback]520286[/snapback]
Not sure about the last line, but everything that went before it is absolutely on the nail.

His record as a manager on his own is nothing short of appalling - and he had plenty of good players still left at Gretna to pick from. He single handedly almost blew what should have been a stroll to the SPL.

Say what you like about Alexander but he delivered the goods - and if indeed Irons was a key instrument in that success, then by default Rowan must have managed him well, indeed just as he managed Mileson well.
Alexander wanted players, he identified them, he got them - they were good players - he won three back to back leagues - and he made the decisions that mattered, not Irons, not Mileson.

Anyway, I'm starting to ramble. The only point I was making when I started this thread is that the manager's record on his own is nothing short of s***e - with two teams and substantial resources. There are plenty of other managers in the same divisions he came through who have delivered more, and continue to deliver way more with a fraction of his resources but ten times his football nous.




The Rae deal is incidental or would be incidental to any manager worth his salt. Part of being a manager is not being given the choice to manage, it's DEMANDING that your in charge or else why would you be there. Anytime my boss is poking his nose in more than I think he should be, he is met with my bog standard "if you're doing my job and I'm doing my job at least one of us doesn't need to be here. You choose".

Fifteen years later I'm still here - but without complete control of my resources, my budget and my strategies then I would walk in the morning. As would any good manager - football or otherwise.

TonInDublin

Something which puzzles me:

Rae's reputation must surely be well known among the footballing fraternity. Derek Collins surely knew what things were like.

Why did they take the job?
mortonjag 2008-09-30 14:07:30
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Sep 30 2008, 01:38 PM) [snapback]520295[/snapback]
Was Collins not Dougie's inside man in the dressing room afore he decided to be his own inside man?

Not sure what you are suggesting-Irons gets the boot and 'sookie' takes over???
mortonjag 2008-09-30 14:14:40
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 30 2008, 02:03 PM) [snapback]520302[/snapback]
This sounds a bit like I'm defending Rae here but to say we could be in the SPL due to the strength of GC doesn't make sense to me.
No idea what GC turns over but if I had a company that turned over say £6m on a 50% gross margin I would be looking to reinvest in that company and not spend my cash on a loss making part of my 'empire'. Used to be 'local boys made good' that owned football clubs but that's not enough anymore. Only the seriously wealthy can afford to run a loss making enterprise.
The way forward for clubs Mortons size is community buy outs. No idea what Morton FC is worth but let's say £1.5m. A hardcore fanebase of 2,500 buy shares to the value of £600 and there's your £1.5m. Not as daft as it sounds.




That would have taken vision and experience but COULD have been achieved on the strength of Golden Casket's dosh-of that I'm convinced.

Operative words 'on the strength of', Peter-not 'using up'. I'm quite sure that if the correct people had been in place from day one, GC would NEVER have been allowed to be 'the bank', but Mr Rae's indulgence would have started us out on a strong footing and with decent collateral.

Community buyout is a wonderful idea-I'll chuck in my £600 right now if you can make it a 'goer'!
mortonjag 2008-09-30 14:18:55
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Sep 30 2008, 01:53 PM) [snapback]520299[/snapback]
Morton chatter for this dry.gif

(PS, I'll reply to your PM tonight...not had the time yet)

smile.gif Rae's creek
mortonjag 2008-09-30 14:29:11
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Sep 30 2008, 02:15 PM) [snapback]520311[/snapback]
A more positive attitude and support from all.

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Smile though your heart is aching
Smile even though its breaking
When there are clouds in the sky, youll get by
If you smile through your fear and sorrow
Smile and maybe tomorrow
Youll see the sun come shining through for you

Light up your face with gladness
Hide every trace of sadness
Although a tear may be ever so near
Thats the time you must keep on trying
Smile, whats the use of crying?
Youll find that life is still worthwhile
If you just smile



Thats the time you must keep on trying
Smile, whats the use of crying?
Youll find that life is still worthwhile
If you just smile

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mortonjag 2008-09-30 14:47:08
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Sep 30 2008, 02:33 PM) [snapback]520317[/snapback]
Usually after singlehandedly bringing your children up and putting up with years of pish mind you.

I give you Mrs Rae:[attachment=4611:th_36e80811.jpg]
mortonjag 2008-09-30 14:50:08
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Sep 30 2008, 02:36 PM) [snapback]520318[/snapback]
It has to be remembered that Gretna lost Stevie Tosh who was by far their best player just before Alexander was put out on gardening/sick leave. It should also be remembered that there was a lot of uncertainty around Gretna for the entireity of Irons' stint in charge (in terms of Irons' position, what Wadsworth was doing, Alexanders antics and the financial situation).

I actually agree with the majority of your post, but I don't think things were quite and black and white at Gretna as you've portrayed it.
I'd be surprised if there are any professional clubs who didn't have such a clause nowadays.
Because it was better than impending unemployment?

For sure!
mortonjag 2008-09-30 16:13:59
QUOTE(cmdc @ Sep 30 2008, 03:37 PM) [snapback]520341[/snapback]
Irons touchline behaviour is nothing you wouldn't see from guys like Bilic, Scolari or O'Neill who are all absolute lunatics on the touchline, who constantly cajole their players and contest decisions, and who are all, also, very very good managers.

I honestly think it's neither here nor there that Irons behaves that way.
..nor, incidentally, do I think McInally's more passive demeanour said anything at all about his ability to manage or influence his players.

Maybe you're right. The difference is that the others you quoted have been successful, and DI is so far a failure.
mortonjag 2008-09-30 16:18:12
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 30 2008, 03:54 PM) [snapback]520347[/snapback]
What the f blink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-09-30 16:41:48
QUOTE(cmdc @ Sep 30 2008, 04:25 PM) [snapback]520366[/snapback]
I'd maybe qualify that a little. So far, this season it would be hard to say anything other than we are failing, but keeping us up last year was a success. I don't think many people leaving Clyde's 2-1 win at Cappielow, and looking at our run in, would have envisaged us avoiding the play-offs.

We've got a great chance, away to Ross County and home to Clyde, to put some points on the board - and if we can build on some of our recent performances, against Queen of the South and Dunfermline, then we'll be capable of getting them.

Davie Irons wasn't a great favourite until we came good in our last two matches against two 'tired' sides. In particular we blew an absolute cruncher at Broadwood-that was a MUST win and we didn't.

I think DI is a very intelligent man with excellent coaching qualifications but he's utterly 'wet behind the ears' in terms of management/man management, and he's trying to contend with Rae and his little boys at the same time.

If he can pull a rabbit out of the hat, I'll be first to salute the magician, but I fear his days at Morton may be numbered. I also believe that for him it's maybe best to move on.
mortonjag 2008-09-30 16:45:56
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Sep 30 2008, 04:25 PM) [snapback]520367[/snapback]
Is it at all possible that Cappie the Cat can be bagged up in a coal sack and launched into the JWD.

....or delivered to the Jag's cellar!!! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-30 16:52:31
QUOTE(cmdc @ Sep 30 2008, 04:47 PM) [snapback]520376[/snapback]
It was a point away from home which helped to keep us up! And whether the opposition were tired or not, they still had to be beaten, and in order to keep us up they still had to be beaten well; so I'm inclined to say it that that initial part of his job was a success.

Hindsight is wonderful!!!
mortonjag 2008-09-30 16:58:57
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Sep 30 2008, 04:43 PM) [snapback]520374[/snapback]
I am positively convinced that we'll end the quarter with our first league win of the season at Victoria Park on Saturday. I think those of us going will probably create a good atmosphere, and the few hundred Ton fans that are there will be rewarded for making the long journey north to Dingwall.

Is anybody else sure we'll do it, or is it just a case of hope for most?

I was convinced we'd beat Dunfermline on Saturday at home. I'm convinced the Manager 'blew it' by not consolidating our one goal lead when we had the Pars on the back foot. Subs SHOULD have been made with about twenty minutes left but DI's schoolmaster ego made that a non-event.

Ross County have a great home support-they will be well 'up for it'. Maybe some of our squad may see this as a chance to finally get rid of 'bossy boots'.

I'm not in the slightest optimistic TBH! sad.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-30 17:01:21
QUOTE(Zutons @ Sep 30 2008, 04:50 PM) [snapback]520378[/snapback]
Correct

For Dingwall away dressing room at 4.50 p.m. Saturday?
mortonjag 2008-09-30 17:06:19
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Sep 30 2008, 05:00 PM) [snapback]520381[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(big B @ Sep 30 2008, 05:57 AM) [snapback]520150[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->That is an outrageous statement that some of the players don't try NAME THEM. What I would say to you is a few of them are short on confidence right now but to say that some of them don't try is ridiculous.
ok no roblem lets start from the back, mcmanus, woeful, mcguffie and partaluu aint turned up this season, masterton, granted he may have had other things on his mind, played well in the game against calley so that was a start. weaterson................nuff said but i hope that he may be starting to get interested again but for how long. i hate bringing down our players but its plain to see the effort aint been there from some but certainly from others who carry the team.

I'm not one to single out individual players AJC, but what hit me right between the eyes was that our cup performances (when the players have been in the 'shop window') have been as good as our league performances have been bad. I wouldn't say the boys are deliberately trying to 'throw' games, but there is more than one way of skinning a cat.
mortonjag 2008-09-30 17:09:09
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 30 2008, 05:04 PM) [snapback]520383[/snapback]
On the point that people were making about DDFR interfering. I was driving home from Greenock the day of the Partick game. I was listening to Radio Scotland and the featured game from the SFL was us against the plastic whistle. The reporter read out the teams and played a short interview with DI when he said he couldn't believe what he just saw. Apparently DDFR shouted over DI from the other side of the pitch to talk to him, right in the middle of the warm up. The reporter was flabbergasted at this.
Now if an outside reporter with no connections to either club, as far as I could gather, can see how ridiculous this is, why can't DDFR see the same thing. Even other people are commenting on this. Stop meddling Mr Rae mad.gif

I sense it's about time to start a poll on Rae, but by God Weegie, I'm not starting it! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-30 17:19:52
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Sep 30 2008, 05:13 PM) [snapback]520388[/snapback]
laugh.gif Wimp.

Don't be daft Weegie-I just want INDEPENDENT opinion-not a 'vote against the Jag's motion'!

I believe that a simple poll (the results of which would go back to Mr Rae via his on board spies) would clarify how folk really feel.

Something like-'Is it time for Mr Rae to take a sidestep and delegate the running of the club to others'. Yes/No.
mortonjag 2008-09-30 17:31:33
QUOTE(cmdc @ Sep 30 2008, 05:26 PM) [snapback]520393[/snapback]
If you want to send a message back, I think better than a poll would be a thread called 'Ask the Chairman'. Based on a recent suggestion that Rae should do an honest and frank interview in the 'tele, everyone with a reasonable question to ask can add a question to the thread, and after a few days the questions could be collected and emailed directly to the club and/or 'tele, like a petition. If the thread was widely supported, and the questions reasonable enough, it could prove difficult to simply ignore.

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mortonjag 2008-09-30 17:35:12
QUOTE(giz @ Sep 30 2008, 04:17 PM) [snapback]520358[/snapback]
Can anyone post a picture of Joe in his Morton days?
I'm sure I'll find one in old books and can scan it but if anyone does then please send me an email or drop a link on here.

Its for an Italian guy who is setting up a web site devoted to Joe..god knows how he got my name!

http://www.spanglefish.com/joejordan/

http://www.calcioscozzese.it/index.html

Problem is that Joe never really hit it off at Cappielow.
mortonjag 2008-09-30 17:50:29
QUOTE(cmdc @ Sep 30 2008, 05:39 PM) [snapback]520399[/snapback]
All I'm saying is that there are more proactive ways of making opinions directly known to, or asking questions of, the club...particularly if communication one of the things you are looking for.

Fair enough-start the thread!
mortonjag 2008-09-30 17:55:12 Common sense prevails for once in the immigration morass!
mortonjag 2008-09-30 18:15:25
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 30 2008, 06:12 PM) [snapback]520408[/snapback]
Usual Junior doctor fate, works silly hours, studies lots when not working for the next lot of professional exams.

......and tells her Grandchildren about the 'old days' in the NHS?
mortonjag 2008-09-30 18:23:08
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 30 2008, 06:10 PM) [snapback]520407[/snapback]
Bravo, a reasonable call sir. tongue.gif

Excluded on all three counts?


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mortonjag 2008-09-30 18:32:06
QUOTE(NewTon @ Sep 30 2008, 06:26 PM) [snapback]520411[/snapback]
that is much better than

Losing Always under Rae's anachronism

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mortonjag 2008-09-30 18:34:09
QUOTE(leyTON @ Sep 30 2008, 06:28 PM) [snapback]520412[/snapback]
like some mudslinging at the Scottish Govt when it isnt their fault perhaps?
a lot of sympathy for the strikers but if we are looking at schools etc being shut for days at a time then it will erode im afraid

Hmm

Should a workforce be denied the 'right to withdraw its labour'?
mortonjag 2008-09-30 18:52:16
QUOTE(Kaney @ Sep 30 2008, 06:48 PM) [snapback]520419[/snapback]
Thanks for all the feedback folks.
Managed to get all the photos printed in Tesco and wrote up our wee unfortunate series of events.
Im not claiming my insurance atall actually, its actually my other half's own policy on her Motobility car. We were up shopping for her gran, getting the winter gear in for the seniors, know? ph34r.gif

Once again though, thanks for all the comments. I'll be sure to let ye know what that outcome is.

Cheers folks smile.gif

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mortonjag 2008-09-30 19:05:03
QUOTE(Mr Toon @ Sep 30 2008, 06:47 PM) [snapback]520417[/snapback]
Assuming that by 'bossy boots' you mean Davie Irons, have you given up on him completely already? Do you want rid of him?

I don't particularly like his style and think he treats the players like wee boys exemplified by that 'on-pitch' warming up routine which thankfully, in spite of the fact that we were told that sports science showed it gave the team a great advantage, lasted only one week.

I think his constant omission of Jenkins is a big mistake, but on the other hand see Shimmin, Smith and increasingly Masterton as long term assets if we can hold on to them.

At least against Dunfermline we had, for the first time in a while, certainly in a league game, enough good chances to win comfortably if our forwards had shown a bit more composure.

.............and a bit more composure is what we need from the manager, coaching the team during the week rather than trying to do it in the middle of the game; praising the good rather than niggling on about the mistakes and concentrating on his job rather than constantly nipping away at the referee and linesman, whom we all know to be generally of a very poor standard .

He is still learning his trade, and after Gretna, for the first time in the 'real world'. I don't want him to go but to succeed and I remain optimistic that given time, he will. However if that meant going back down to the Second Division that would be too much to take.

So I'm going for a win on Saturday and the start of better things!


I always call it as I see it!

Do I want rid of him?

NO-I want rid of the cancer that's eating away the future of the very life he recreated-RAE.

Only when he's accepted that he's choking 'his' club, will we have the chance to progress.

Davie Irons is just a victim.
mortonjag 2008-09-30 19:08:23
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Sep 30 2008, 07:01 PM) [snapback]520423[/snapback]
Since nearly every thread now is taken up with comments about the current chairman, and since mortonjag hasnt the boz to start a poll here is one for you all.

p.s. its my first time doing one of these so go easy on me unsure.gif

Mortonjag salutes you Sir! wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-30 19:10:41
QUOTE(morethanagame @ Sep 30 2008, 07:08 PM) [snapback]520428[/snapback]
IF the chairman was to go we would be in deep trouble.
Where are you going to find the morton minded, extremely rich, patron, who doesn't "interfere". No ifs, no buts no maybe, where is the replacement? This is real life not some computer game.

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Extract tongue from Rae posterior-NOW! eek.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-30 19:16:27
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Sep 30 2008, 07:14 PM) [snapback]520431[/snapback]
Should that not just be Children? unsure.gif

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mortonjag 2008-09-30 19:21:47
QUOTE(allenton @ Sep 30 2008, 07:19 PM) [snapback]520433[/snapback]
Was at hospitality at ICT game. Dougie came over to the table and was asking how we felt about the start to the season. He came across as a very genuine man who is clearly hurting at the start we have made.

He did say he felt we should worry less about the other team who visit cappielow and concentrate on our own strengths.

I cannot claim to know the man but he spend at least 10 minutes discussing the game and appeared to be struggling like the rest of us with our performances. He was certainly not avoiding answering the questions i asked him.

.........which were?
mortonjag 2008-09-30 19:24:01
QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Sep 30 2008, 07:20 PM) [snapback]520434[/snapback]
I hate the t*** but that's inaccurate. The only thing he does have the "boz" to do is talk about it ON HERE, and start polls ON HERE. When it comes to discussing issues with anyone connected with the club in person, however ... rolleyes.gif

PS I voted for every single option ... not because I don't know what I think, but just to mess up the ridiculous thing. smile.gif

Then you may answer to Big Doc, you foolish child. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-30 19:32:02
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Sep 30 2008, 07:29 PM) [snapback]520438[/snapback]
To answer the first question, yes and no. Voted for both in the poll and that is what I truly believe. It is time for him to go as he has taken us as far as he can. But it is not time for him to go as there is no-one to takeover the club. As soon as someone declares an interest in the club then the answer would be a definate yes, but until then there is not a lot we can do.

The second question is irrelevant at the moment, but if a viable buyer came in and Dougie refused to talk to them then I would consider taking part in vocal and organised protests. Nobody is bigger than the club and if Dougie was standing in the way of progress then I would be a part of proceedings to try to get him removed.

He IS, and I give you Alistair Donald.
mortonjag 2008-09-30 19:33:45
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 30 2008, 07:32 PM) [snapback]520442[/snapback]
We are at the bottom of the league at the moment. That is not directly down to Dougie, perhaps indirectly, simply because he is the chairman of our club.
The players and the management team are responsible for our current predicament, not Dougie.
Dougie Rae has put his faith in Irons & Collins, time will tell if he is right.

Dougie is not perfect, but I'm glad we have a chairman we can trust. After the last chairman I really appreciate someone like Dougie Rae.

To those who wish our chairman to stand down.....BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR !

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mortonjag 2008-09-30 19:44:32
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Sep 30 2008, 07:34 PM) [snapback]520445[/snapback]
Until Donald puts his cards on the table then I will not get behind him. If he comes out and says he wants to buy the club, then I will be totally in favour of that.

Hold on a minute Bishy!

FACTS.

He's worth about ten or a hundred times a 'Rae' depending on what statistics you choose.

He's 'devoted' to Morton.

He's a Director who's been attending almost every match of late.

He's already made an 'offer' which was knocked back by overpricing and the need to retain some control (if reports are to be believed).

There again it's possible that that old fox Rae has conned a man whose business acumen and success leave the wee Fudgy Wudgy maker look like a pauper.

He's certainly conned a few posters! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-30 19:54:42
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 30 2008, 07:40 PM) [snapback]520448[/snapback]
I know you have a great dislike for Dougie MJ. But I see no reason, or have the slightest bit of evidence to doubt what I have stated.

Let me set it straight once and for all Spurtle. I don't know Douglas Rae personally. I have met him once in 'Hospitality' and found him to be a self obsessed and dismissive old man.

Morton is his ego, and his ego is Morton-a sad old fool, who at the age of 77 years is still unfulfilled.

The tragedy is that his final fling is now biting him in the bum. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-30 19:58:43
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Sep 30 2008, 07:51 PM) [snapback]520458[/snapback]
How about a loan deal then?

Surely we are a more attractive proposition now then when he first came to us. In all his interviews he ALWAYS mentions wanting to play competitive first team football - don't underestimate what an enticing carrot that could be to a player like him.

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mortonjag 2008-09-30 20:01:18
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Sep 30 2008, 07:47 PM) [snapback]520456[/snapback]
Don't doubt a lot of what you are saying about his worth and his devotion for Morton. But where is your proof re an offer being made. To my knowledge, Donald has not made an attempt to buy the club yet. If you have proof to the contrary then please provide it.

Would you care to expand on 'your' knowledge before I make any further comment?
mortonjag 2008-09-30 20:10:33
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 30 2008, 08:01 PM) [snapback]520466[/snapback]
That's your opinion of him MJ. Personally when I spoke to him in the hospitality I found him to be the exact opposite of what you regard him to be.

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You are equally impressed by 'Bawheid' Spurtle.

There's a wee psychological trick involved here-and you plainly haven't clocked it-treat everybody as your equal!

I'm sure that if you'd done that, your responses from GOD would have been perceived entirely differently!

There again, I suppose life would not be complete without the sycophants! rip.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-30 20:16:59
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 30 2008, 08:05 PM) [snapback]520469[/snapback]
We know Donald is an extremely rich man MJ. But again we have no substantiated proof that he is interested in buying Morton FC....none at all !

That's absolutely true Spurtle!

Alistair lives in the Home Counties-a very nice part of ENGLAND, I'm told.

Would you believe that he could easily watch half a dozen Engish premiership sides-maybe more- and get home for his lamb bhuna before he does from Cappielow! laugh.gif

mortonjag 2008-09-30 20:30:26 wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-30 20:32:24
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 30 2008, 08:19 PM) [snapback]520478[/snapback]
I just stick to the facts MJ. happy.gif

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mortonjag 2008-09-30 20:38:05
QUOTE(wanderton @ Sep 30 2008, 08:29 PM) [snapback]520480[/snapback]
mortonjag i do not know you or douglas rae but you seem to have a strong dislike for the man.Why do you dislike him so much has your paths crossed in the past?

I do have a strong dislike for a man whose ego is destroying the Club I have supported all my life.

The fact that he still has any minute shred of credibility must surely be down to mass thickness! mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-30 21:18:24
QUOTE(Bryan @ Sep 30 2008, 09:09 PM) [snapback]520493[/snapback]
why would we need either a vocal protest at games or a organised protest currently...

You mean he already KNOWS!!! bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-30 21:22:29
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Sep 30 2008, 09:18 PM) [snapback]520496[/snapback]
The vision of Mortonjag Multiple voting whilst chugging himself senseless , is not a savoury one. thumbdown.gif

Hmm... cloth ears-one can only construe that you too are up Rae's arse.

I knew you weren't very bright but 'c'mon Man! rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-09-30 21:26:06
QUOTE(Tonosaurus @ Sep 30 2008, 08:41 PM) [snapback]520487[/snapback]
A bit rich talking about another person's ego when you regularly refer to yourself in the 3rd person.

How you could assess the fact that he is "unfulfilled" when it is apparent you have rarely (if ever) spoken with him is absurd.

Although your little turn of phrase has not quite registered with some, I met Dougie once too in hospitality and found him to be a pretty decent chap. That's two to one! He did have the air of a man who is sure of himself (almost certainly overly so) and had the charisma of a politician, but I couldn't care less about his character assessment, I am only concerned about his running of the club, which has yet to yield anything particularly unpleasant except lead to the birth of an internet character who is hell-bent on turning an entire forum against Dougie, with very little evidence as to why.

He is an unfulfilled old fud.

Mortonjag hath spoken!
mortonjag 2008-09-30 21:28:18
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Sep 30 2008, 09:15 PM) [snapback]520494[/snapback]
Local authority workers are being offered 2.5% which, with inflation at 4.5 %, effectively means a 2% pay cut. The lower paid workers are right to resist and have my support. The pay offer should be viewed in the context of the recent job evaluation exercise carried out by management consultants (why do those feckers always hire consultants - at cooncil tax payers epense - to do their jobs for them). Proposed salary regradings following the job evaluations generally recommend substantial increases for management grades and actual decreases for some lower grades. Now there's a surprise eh? Managers recommending pay hikes for managers.

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mortonjag 2008-10-01 07:43:47
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Sep 30 2008, 09:32 PM) [snapback]520500[/snapback]
Devoted to Morton? If he was so inclined, where was he when the administrators were ready to shut us down? Too busy making offers to Murray the Hun? Dougie's conned a few posters? I hope Donald isn't conning some more. biggrin.gif

In which sense Mr Edwards-by 'kidding on' he's interested, to make the Club look viable because Rae asked him to, or because he's some latter day Hugh's Cot who plans to asset strip for the sake of a few marbles?

QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Sep 30 2008, 09:55 PM) [snapback]520503[/snapback]
Mr Rae has funded Morton to the extreme but to me this is due to his mismanagement by buying haddies for a 100 grand and giving lumps o wood inflated and extreme contracts, lets do a Clyde, Airdrie, have trials pre season and focus any cash towards development( at least by doing that it will take half a season to learn the scapegoats names)

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QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Sep 30 2008, 10:21 PM) [snapback]520511[/snapback]
Guess that would answer why Mr Donald wouldn't fancy a power share with Mr Rae .

Nobody in his right mind would consider that a viable proposition!

QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Oct 1 2008, 12:02 AM) [snapback]520541[/snapback]
........but it actually feels worse this year due to lack of belief, even going to s***holes like stenhousmuir was more of a buzz than going to cappielow(maybe cause we could get a result)as of late I'm f***ing sick of apathy and most o my mates think it is hardly worth the effort these day.

Very true....very sad.

QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 1 2008, 01:06 AM) [snapback]520551[/snapback]
Sugar Rae has rejected several offers over the past few years, according to articles in the popular press.

I remember that someone posted them here about 18 months ago.

mortonjag ??

I've repeatedly mentioned the Sun article published on the morning of our loss to Raith when we became champions by default.

He mentioned knocking back several 'million pound' offers and claimed that 'as long as there was breath in his body, Greenock Morton was not for sale'.

I've had it from reliable sources that AD is interested in the Club. I fully understand the paranoia after our situation with Scott. Which is the lesser of two evils-taking a gamble on Donald, or heading back to the Third Division with Rae?
mortonjag 2008-10-01 07:46:54 See!



Health Secretary Nicola Sturgeon said: "Delays in carotid surgery are a concern. We want to ensure that patients are benefiting from their surgery and have initiated the Scottish carotid interventions project to look at how outcomes might be improved."


WHOOPY F*CKIN' DOO-more money squandered on pointless exercises when those at the coal face know exactly what's wrong and what's needed to remedy it.

That woman is a bloody liability. mad.gif mad.gif

Oh...and she's one ugly bitch too.

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mortonjag 2008-10-01 08:12:52
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Sep 30 2008, 10:11 PM) [snapback]520509[/snapback]
I would imagine just about every football club internet website in the land has threads dedicated to the "Knight in shinning armour" chairman that's going to come along and rescue the club from the evil chairman that currently rules over the club.

Get real people, ain't gonna happen !

Why does Mr Donald bother his arse trekking to Cappielow, Spurtle?

QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Sep 30 2008, 11:22 PM) [snapback]520529[/snapback]
You don't beleive everything Mr Donald Trump says do you!

I don't give a toss about Mr Trump. If he shows an interest in Greenock Morton, I'll certainly start asking questions. Is Mr Donald a 'bogey man' to you? What is YOUR take on the current situation. You seem entirely complacent about the fact that Rae is destroying the Club he re-built.

QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Sep 30 2008, 11:25 PM) [snapback]520531[/snapback]
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Sep 30 2008, 02:08 PM)
Mr Rae not only saved our club several yrs ago, but he continues to be the saviour. If it was not for his financial support we wouldn't be able to afford these players on supposed high wages.

Aye right!

'He continues to be the saviour'! laugh.gif

Bottom of the third division and owing Golden Casket a bloody arm and a leg is sure not my idea of salvation.

What is your connection with Mr Rae?
mortonjag 2008-10-01 08:30:02 It amuses me to see those percentage figures bandied about. If you're earning f*ck all, why do employers have to quibble about giving you an extra 5% of f*ck all? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-01 08:34:42
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Oct 1 2008, 08:32 AM) [snapback]520566[/snapback]
Eid Mubarik to any board members of an Islamic persuasion. Ramadan's over.

If you're Jewish, happy new year. 5766 in the jewish calendar.

.....and a pinch and a punch to you Mr Bam!
mortonjag 2008-10-01 09:05:39
QUOTE(midTONs @ Oct 1 2008, 08:44 AM) [snapback]520568[/snapback]
The lassie next door to me has a small kid in nursery and works part-time, she earns £5.52 (considerably less than you and the rest of the people striking), now she cannot afford to lose a days wage but will be forced to because it's highly unlikely she will get a baby sitter for the hours when her son would have been in nursery.

Is there any chance instead of having a long lie or getting up to stand in a picket line you could come down to Gourock and watch this young lad for a few hours and let his Mother go to work and do a similar job you do for considerably less money, she tells me she cannot see her she can budget for the week following the strike with a days less wage.

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Citing individual cases of hardship always pulls at the heartstrings. If there was any justice in the world the thousands upon thousands of lowly paid Council workers would give up their strike action to remedy her plight, and I will willingly give her advice on contraception if she wishes to further her career without the encumbrance of yet another sprog. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-01 09:49:17
QUOTE(Alibi @ Oct 1 2008, 09:26 AM) [snapback]520572[/snapback]
You're getting a bit boring now. Look, just accept it - no matter how hard you try, she simply doesn't want to sh4g you....

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She's certainly shafting the voters!
mortonjag 2008-10-01 09:58:37
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Oct 1 2008, 09:42 AM) [snapback]520575[/snapback]
Simply because DDF did not and does not think McInally is pish. He may think DI is pish and after this Saturday depending on the result DDF may weild the axe.

Or to put it slightly differently JM was putty in Rae's hands-Irons deserves some credit for not achieving that! blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-01 10:08:58
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Oct 1 2008, 09:49 AM) [snapback]520577[/snapback]
It's all good points you make there.

I don't know how our wages compare with the rest of the 1st division or what our wages to turnover ratio is......industry average for football clubs is roughly 60%. I was surpirsed when I heard about Greacen, Harding and Weatherson all getting long contracts too......I would have given Harding or Greacen a new contract not both.....but that's my opinion......Irons believed differently.

The bring a friend idea is proving somewhat tiresome now, but a club our size is limited to the extra revenue it can generate. We are never going to get some foreign investor taking over the club, we are always going to be restricted to a "local man makes good scenario"........whom I don't know many of in Inverclyde.

A win changes everything. No one realistically expected anything more than consolidation this year, which I still believe is within our grasp.

You make many statements of opinion sound factual!

'A club our size' is potentially the biggest provincial club in the SPL, where profits are regularly generated. We still don't know of Alistair Donald's intentions. I for one realistically hoped he'd become involved sooner rather than later.

'Consolidation' and 'constipation' are often not dissimilar. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-01 10:15:55
QUOTE(Wee Dublin End @ Oct 1 2008, 09:57 AM) [snapback]520579[/snapback]
If you aren't happy with the money you earn why don't you apply for jobs that pay more ?

There are thousands of caring people in Scotland who LOVE their jobs while hating the pittance they get in return for sterling service.

There are thousands more who HATE their jobs but love their high salaries! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-01 10:18:51
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Oct 1 2008, 09:57 AM) [snapback]520580[/snapback]
Hated it. If I wanted to be shouted at or patronised by posh Edinburgh lawyers I'd become a criminal.

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I thought you already were one, Peter!
mortonjag 2008-10-01 11:11:31
QUOTE(Mr Toon @ Oct 1 2008, 10:26 AM) [snapback]520588[/snapback]
[b]A community buyout is a one-off, £600, but then what?[/b] How do you raise the revenue after that to keep the club afloat and indeed invest further for the future? At that point you are in the same position as the owner, whoever he/she may be who buys the club and either is,or is not financially strong enough to take it to the next level.

I suspect that you are correct that with more shrewd appointments at managerial level we could have built a very strong First Division promotion challenging side by now but we are where we are and something needs to change.

That's exactly what I was asking Peter!



QUOTE(maccaboy @ Oct 1 2008, 10:48 AM) [snapback]520591[/snapback]
Utterly pathetic - unless you're referring to yourself in the third person again!

You're entitled to your opinion I suppose, but I really wish you'd keep it to yourself. It's nothing but prejudice and personal abuse that you're masquerading as fact, when clearly the man is NOT a "sad old fool".

The sad old fool ain't the man who has built a successful business and, as other posters point out, is keeping GMFC afloat - no, he's sitting in front of a monitor spreading rumours, abuse and poison.

Imperfect as he is, Rae has at least done constructive things in his life, rather than spend retirement sniping from the sidelines via a low-circulation messageboard.

Jealousy is an evil, pernicious emotion, Moronjag, and, in more ways than one, you're full of it.

This one message shows you up for what you are - and what you are looks pretty pathetic.

Thank you for your highlighted statement, and I fully intend to keep voicing it.

Mr Rae, at 77 years of age, is by any standards 'old'. I regard him as 'sad' because he cannot see that his ego is destroying his love child. I think he's a 'fool' because in the opinion of the majority on the 'Dougie' poll, and in mine, he continues to make foolish mistakes in the running of OUR club.

Occasionally I weary of personal comparisons, especially when they are apparently evil, pernicious, and coming from anonymous Rae sycophants.

I put it to you that the average Doctor does more 'constructive' work than churning out second rate sweeties. I'm sure you'll rapidly point out the error of that opinion.

Jealousy is indeed an unpleasant emotion. If I were the jealous type, I can think of thousands of people I'd choose to envy before Mr Rae! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-01 11:19:08
QUOTE(Satans Husband @ Oct 1 2008, 10:51 AM) [snapback]520593[/snapback]
They're obviously not that reliable as you say on the Dougie Rae thread, "We still don't know of Alistair Donald's intentions. I for one realistically hoped he'd become involved sooner rather than later."

My sources are entirely reliable and confirmed that AD is indeed interested in gaining control of the Club.

We don't know how or when he intends to do that. He became a Director in July. Given that level of committment my hope that he'd become financially involved sooner rather than later seemed realistic.
mortonjag 2008-10-01 11:32:23
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Oct 1 2008, 11:24 AM) [snapback]520604[/snapback]
here we go with "my sources" again. You silly little pals have already made a tit of theirselves once before...

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You know who they are!

The only 'tits' on this forum are the fools who don't want to accept the truth.

I'd like you to identify those 'silly little pals' GT.

Failure to do so will prove your post to be yet another inaccurate personal attack. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-01 11:47:34
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Oct 1 2008, 11:29 AM) [snapback]520606[/snapback]
Now, you're just stirring it again, and you know it.

Asking that kind of a question would be like asking "would you like an end to war, yes or no", or "is the Internet a good thing, yes or no"....... Anyone can answer a question when the answer is without consequence; an idle click or two of a mouse and then move on. Solves nothing tho; all it does (whatever the answer) is stir the mud at the bottom of the pond a little. The man owns the vast majority of the shares, and I doubt he gives a toss about a wee tinpot question on here that would struggle to get a hundred votes, so all it would do is cause yet more ill-feeling on here.

But then that's all you're really after, so from your perspective it would be "mission accomplished".......

Your mission will not be accomplished! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-01 11:52:05
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Oct 1 2008, 11:32 AM) [snapback]520608[/snapback]
wot, just the once??? laugh.gif

This applies to you also, though you differ from Gourock Ton in that you bear all the trade marks of a Cappielow insider. ph34r.gif




You know who they are!

The only 'tits' on this forum are the fools who don't want to accept the truth.

I'd like you to identify those 'silly little pals' GT.

Failure to do so will prove your post to be yet another inaccurate personal attack.
mortonjag 2008-10-01 12:27:54
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Oct 1 2008, 12:04 PM) [snapback]520621[/snapback]
The point being any Tom, Dick or Harry can come on here and say my sources are reliable. Okay you may have sources, but that doesn't make others like me fools just because we don't and dare to ask questions. All I do, and others I'm sure , is turn up to the game and come on this site for a wee bit of information about their team.

And as for a personal attack....get a life mate!

I've NEVER called a fellow poster a 'fool' for asking questions GT! smile.gif

As for personal attacks, here's what you said.

here we go with "my sources" again. You silly little pals have already made a tit of theirselves once before...

.....followed by

All I do, and others I'm sure , is turn up to the game and come on this site for a wee bit of information about their team.

If that's just 'looking for a wee bit of information', it certainly doesn't come over that way.

Would you care to identify those 'silly little pals who have made tits of themselves'?

This is my second invitation to you to establish your credibility.
mortonjag 2008-10-02 06:42:07 I'm very interested in Bobby Thomson's post -specifically - 'a member of staff has said it's only a matter of time before he takes over the reins'. mellow.gif

I'd imagine that's merely the same kind of reasoned and reasonable observation already made by myself and some others, rather that the product of any privileged information.

Our financial guard dog, THE TRUST has been waiting for months for a reply to a letter asking Mr Donald to 'come clean'. Mr Donald appears a very secretive man.

I believe he WILL take over the reins, and that when he does, the first any of us will know about it will be the press release.
mortonjag 2008-10-02 06:52:30
QUOTE(port-ton @ Oct 1 2008, 05:12 PM) [snapback]520721[/snapback]
it's got to come out sometimes, maybe if i pissed on Russell's face when he was about to shoot he'd completely mis-hit it and it would go in the goal.

There is no end to your gay fantasies.
mortonjag 2008-10-02 07:23:49
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Oct 1 2008, 05:53 PM) [snapback]520734[/snapback]
We should dump McAllister and get someone in his position (a natural left-footer preferably) who doesn't merely run about like a headless chicken. sad.gif

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QUOTE(cornbeef @ Oct 1 2008, 06:10 PM) [snapback]520745[/snapback]
kwolity laugh.gif

Oh aye edit to say........... and it could all be funded by this new (anonymous )chairman who is just gagging to throw his money at us rolleyes.gif


Thomas Cloth Ears!
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Oct 1 2008, 08:22 PM) [snapback]520837[/snapback]
That's that one sorted.

Jamie Stevenson may well be a creative player, but he's workshy and he was one of our worst players last season. He won't be back.

Wingers, yes we need them. Kevin Finlayson, when he's confident enough to take on his man, because he is well capable of skinning a player of he just tries it, will do for one.

Superkev constantly flatters to deceive. He's NEVER a winger, and can't cross or shoot for peanuts, but he does win a lot of shies and the occasional free kick or corner.

QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Oct 1 2008, 10:13 PM) [snapback]520923[/snapback]
PS I was sorry to lose Millar and would have him back tomorrow if I could!

We have nobody in the squad who fills the role vacated by Midge.

QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 1 2008, 11:28 PM) [snapback]520977[/snapback]
Re: the Millar contract.
From March to October Millar barely kicked a ball for us. Only at Hamilton and the infamous "Templemangate" did he come off the bench and impressed enough to merit a start.
That leaves two months between that change in form and squad until December when the story began to be outed as such. I honestly do not think the club needed to be particularly fast or rash enough to sign up a player based on two months work out of the last 8. Personal opinion. The resultant negotiations and "he said, no he said" nonsense points to a more serious problem of bungling, meddling and interference.





Top notch! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-02 07:27:47
QUOTE(cappiecat @ Oct 1 2008, 11:49 PM) [snapback]520981[/snapback]
If its got wine in it,I'm there!!

Mortonjag's cellar boasts many fine wines!
mortonjag 2008-10-02 07:48:42
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Oct 1 2008, 07:11 PM) [snapback]520786[/snapback]
It's not posted to damage the manager I posted it as an introduction to Brian Wake praising the manager as I was pleasantly surprised to read about a player saying something positive about the manager when the rumours are that he had lost the dressing room.

It is what it is. If it was what is perceived to be a good rumour - a potential new signing for example - no one would be moaning.

"we WILL get it on Saturday!" - I'd love us to get a win on Saturday, I'll be there supporting the team but I'm not as optimistic as yourself. Why are you so sure we'll win?



QUOTE(Alibi @ Oct 1 2008, 08:51 PM) [snapback]520858[/snapback]
Lost the dressing room? Jeezo, I thought WDE was bad losing a remote control but a dressing room? Has he looked down the back of the sofa.

Seriously FFS get off Davie Irons' back - he's only been here a matter of a few months and he has to work with the players he inherited plus any he brings in - he signed Shimmin and no-one can say that's a poor signing. Chris Smith - looks ok to me. Masterton was welcomed by everyone as a decent signing. I'm not sure if DI signed Jenkins but possibly he did. He tried to keep Millar but failed, but that wasn't really his fault. Most of the rest he is stuck with including our central defenders who come in for much abuse on here. Could any of you turn the club round in a matter of three or four months, which is all he's had really given the holiday period?

DI isn't the problem.



Much passion on this thread-good to see folk can still get worked up about something.

I decided to get an independent opinion about DI. I asked the league table. I'm certainly not going to be starting any rumours on the strength of what it said.
mortonjag 2008-10-02 08:22:17
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Oct 1 2008, 01:37 PM) [snapback]520650[/snapback]
My knowledge being what is generally known. I don't have the luxury of having any inside sources, so if you wish me to believe that Mr Donald has made a bid for the club then you will have to show me some evidence. Real evidence mind, not just conjecture based upon the fact that he comes up to watch games from England.

I fully support your motion that Rae has to go when we get a viable alternative but until we have hard proof that Donald is interested he is not an alternative.

He is an alternative IF he's interested. What we can or cannot prove is irrelevant in that respect.

I'm a doctor Bishy, not a lawyer. Symptoms, signs and diagnosis, and my diagnosis is that AD wants the Club!

QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Oct 1 2008, 05:58 PM) [snapback]520738[/snapback]
Y'know, that is actually one of the saddest things I've read on here for quite a while, and proves the point that change is desperately needed at Cappielow.

If Morton isn't to be seen as a club on par with the likes of ICT then we've fallen even further than I thought. Yes, they are SPL clubs, but Morton has the potential to at least match those mentioned.

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QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Oct 1 2008, 05:59 PM) [snapback]520741[/snapback]
DDF will most certainly hear about this. Thats a guarantee. wink.gif


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QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 1 2008, 07:09 PM) [snapback]520784[/snapback]
Your guess is as good as mine Dr Mentaljag. I'm not sure at all about Donald's alleged 'devotion' to Morton, given his previous association and his profession.

Is Abramovic 'devoted' to Chelsea?
mortonjag 2008-10-02 08:47:17 When Alan Jenkins begins to show his true form I'd have him as captain.
mortonjag 2008-10-02 08:54:12
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Oct 2 2008, 08:31 AM) [snapback]521016[/snapback]
laugh.gif Second post even better than the first. This guy is gonna be a star. Looking forward to the third already.

He seems to have a lot of inside information about you Peter. Should we trust his sources or are they just 'tits'? blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-02 08:57:05
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 2 2008, 08:36 AM) [snapback]521018[/snapback]
Power, self aggrandisement and control, but not necessarily Chelsea I think. Dougie does the first three as well, but no doubt that he's devoted to Morton. biggrin.gif

Of course he's devoted to himself.
mortonjag 2008-10-02 08:59:08
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Oct 2 2008, 08:50 AM) [snapback]521022[/snapback]
That'll be when we're back in the second division then? dry.gif

If pushed I'd probably go for Cuthbert.

Or as soon as the new Manager arrives? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-02 09:03:26
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Oct 2 2008, 08:57 AM) [snapback]521025[/snapback]
He does know quite a lot about me; I'm a child and my parents are still alive. Yup, he's got my number alright.
Just wait 'til he turns his guns on you!!! Better get that report button ready Douglas...... laugh.gif ohmy.gif

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Do you think he'll say my Daddy shagged my Mummy (his sister) and it's time for beddy baws?

That would make a refreshing change from the decrepit old c*nt routine Peter! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-02 09:09:59
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Oct 1 2008, 07:40 PM) [snapback]520803[/snapback]
Its all DOWNHILL

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I've never been happier. It's daft worrying about your age when you don't know if you'll still be alive in five minutes-that plus the fact that everybody I know absolutely adores me!
mortonjag 2008-10-02 09:22:27
QUOTE(M4RKO @ Oct 1 2008, 07:51 PM) [snapback]520808[/snapback]
anyone know why this is??

Ive been on a bit of a health kick, eating loads of fruit and veg, running or at the gym most days...

...but when i fart it's eye watering. I could only describe as like walking into a wall of sh*te. They're always silent which is small compensation when in mixed company.

Whats the reason? Jag, any idea?


Food as medicine
Flatus
Alternative names
Aerophagia, excessive gas, flatulence or “farts”.
What is flatus?
Flatus (flatulence) is air or gas in the intestine that is released through the rectum. This gas consists mainly of the odourless gas carbon dioxide. Small amounts of other gases are present, such as methane and hydrogen sulphide. The unpleasant smell of intestinal gas is a result of the hydrogen sulphide or other compounds. These other compounds are mostly amines, which are produced when proteins are broken down in the colon. The amines can be particularly offensive.
What causes flatus?


When bacteria begin to break down undigested food in the large intestine or colon, gas is formed. This causes the intestine to distend (swell), which can cause cramping pain. If the intestinal wall is inflamed, it can become more sensitive than usual to normal amounts of flatus.

Even though it can cause discomfort, excessive gas is usually not a serious symptom.

There are many causes of flatus and they may vary depending on your age, gender, and associated complaints. Some of the more common causes include:

* Eating non-digestible foods such as fibre.
* Eating foods that your body cannot tolerate (as in lactose intolerance which occurs when you lack the enzyme which digests lactose or milk sugar).
* Eating beans. There are carbohydrates in beans that cannot be digested by our enzymes so the bacteria in the colon have to break it down. The result is colonic gas.
* Acute pancreatitis.
* Irritable bowel syndrome.
* Malabsorption (which occurs when your intestine is not able to absorb nutrients) often accompanied by diarrhoea.
* Use of antibiotics.

Who gets flatus?
Anyone can get flatus. Fibre is the main cause of flatus and since fibre is necessary in a healthy diet, flatus can be seen as a sign of good health! It has been estimated the average healthy young male passes excess gas thirteen times a day.
How is flatus diagnosed?
If flatus is one of several symptoms, your doctor might need to consider the possibility of illnesses such as inflammatory bowel disease. In this case, your doctor will probably ask questions about your medical history, such as what your eating habits are like and whether you experience any other symptoms, such as diarrhoea, abdominal pain or bloating.


Can flatus be prevented?
Intestinal gas may increase temporarily after starting a high-fibre diet. The condition usually disappears on its own once your body has adjusted to the new diet. Also try the following:

* Do not eat milk products for a week as you might be lactose-intolerant. Avoiding rich foods, fizzy drinks and beer.
* To decrease the presence of foul-smelling amines in the intestine, you could decrease the amount of protein, primarily meat, in your diet. However, it is advisable to see a nutritionist before doing this.
* Avoid foods like navy beans, cabbage, brussel sprouts, cauliflower, broccoli, turnips, cucumbers, radishes, onions, and melons.
* Eat slowly and chew your food thoroughly.
* Increase your intake of chlorophyll. Chlorophyll is found in leafy green vegetables, such as spinach.[attachment=4621:th_fart.gif]
mortonjag 2008-10-02 09:26:45
QUOTE(Alibi @ Oct 1 2008, 03:11 PM) [snapback]520685[/snapback]
Actually I doubt if fruit that is not rotten falls any further from the tree...

Is the phrase not simply "the fruit doesn't fall far from the tree""?

Rotten fruit can't bounce or roll!
mortonjag 2008-10-02 09:50:53
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Oct 2 2008, 08:42 AM) [snapback]521019[/snapback]
Can't wait for your reaction when MJ reveals he is Shergar, Lord Lucan AND Douglas Rae. ohmy.gif

The noble fudgy wudgy maker is indeed taking us for a ride, Peter.
mortonjag 2008-10-02 17:13:33
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Oct 1 2008, 08:36 PM) [snapback]520845[/snapback]
Would you also say that we the fans are victims? In the sense that we are watching something we all love, become riddled with decrepit interefering from something that is out of our reach at present.

For the record...saturday...we should win...I'll go for 2-o the Ton, and the start of our good fortunes...

Surely not a reference to the Chairman?
mortonjag 2008-10-02 17:16:47
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Oct 2 2008, 10:20 AM) [snapback]521045[/snapback]
Dark, clear or poofy pink?

Red, white and rose!-yes-POUFFE pink has been the ideal accompaniment to many a last supper. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-02 17:24:14
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Oct 2 2008, 11:48 AM) [snapback]521075[/snapback]
Rae gets the blame for badmouthing Millar after he signed the contract with St. Johnstone, and it was him who arranged talks with the agent on the 21st of February
Good point.
Well they'd decided to arrange contract talks, so clearly they did think he was worth a new deal, just that they'd handled it terribly, highlighting how badly we do things.
St. Johnstone, a side who were at the other end of the league, still thought he was good enough.
Finlayson's crossing has improved, although it does still leave a lot to be desired, but I would still say he can be a winger if he works on his crossing more, and just has the belief to take on his man.

However there's another point to be made here. All of that in bold describes Jim McAlister perfectly. Why is treated like a hero while Finlayson's constantly criticised? He's far better at taking on players than Finlayson, but nothing ever comes of it anyway because he can't pass a ball.

I agree and have been saying for months we should have got rid of both in the closed season for two half decent wingers. McAlister's only decent games this season have been when he's 'bust a gut' in front of SPL opposition (in the shop window)!
mortonjag 2008-10-02 17:29:50
QUOTE(leyTON @ Oct 2 2008, 11:44 AM) [snapback]521072[/snapback]
I wish people would stop giving jenkins an easy way out. Both him and Irons say he is back to fitness, and yet he has been utter pish since he signs.All these "whjen jenkins finds form" or "when jenkins is back on top form" "or when jenkins is back to full fitness and his best" are going to be very dissapointed.
If no other longer serving player can be find I wouldn't argue wih Dom. I haven't seen him put a foot wrong. Whether he decided to pass it out, skin a striker, look up the wing, or even just hoof, he always looks reassured

In which case why give him the last five minutes last Saturday, during which time he made the most positive and aggressive run at their defence in the whole game and his 'lay off' could have got us a second goal. He was the only stand out in the game against Queens at Palmerston-again he only got fifteen minutes.

I put it to you that IF he is fit-Irons has much to answer for.
mortonjag 2008-10-02 17:37:57
QUOTE(tontastic @ Oct 2 2008, 10:45 AM) [snapback]521053[/snapback]
Here is a forward looking question for you all ... what if Morton were to do well, be promoted to the SPL, and do well in the SPL.

I would presume that this change of circumstance would be brought about by either a better class of player on the pitch or an improvement in the skill level of our players brought on by a capable off pitch staff.

What if a consequence of that success was a jump in ticket prices, compulsory purchase of a season ticket to guarantee a seat and a heaving Cappielow every week? Would this mean that some people would have to give up attending matches because they either couldn't get in, or can't afford the £20/30/40+ ticket prices? Would regular visits by large teams make Cappielow a less safe place for young children due to the crowds?

From a footballing point of view we would be entertained, we would be winning; we would be climbing the table, but the inevitable consequences would be the demise of the cowshed, a potential stadium move or disruptive stadium work.

The point of my post? Would you put up with the kind of changes that considerable success would bring to enjoy Morton being a real name in footballing terms, or would you settle for something less than that to preserve a little of what you have just now? How would you feel if success priced you out of attending games? Would you be happy to follow Morton from daily tabloids reports?

What is YOUR answer to your own question?

QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Oct 2 2008, 02:54 PM) [snapback]521141[/snapback]
Nah, f*** that, lets all realise that Mortons ambition go no further than a wee tidy squad determined to remain in the first diddyvision as that is after all our natural level.

We could NEVER aspire to match the ambitions of Falkirk, St Mirren, ICT, Hamilton etc or even the level of BIG clubs like St.Johnstone, Dunfermline and QOS in the first division.

Lets contunie to ask 2k+ fans to roll up to Cappielow with no expectation. no desire and no feckin hope.
Lets have no meaningful youth structure, lets have a non SPL compliant stadium.

I am happy to wallow in perpetual mediocraty and self pity for eternity.


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mortonjag 2008-10-02 17:51:35
QUOTE(BishyTON @ Oct 2 2008, 01:49 PM) [snapback]521123[/snapback]
That's like saying that Bill Gates, Warren Buffet or a Dubai Consortium are an alternative if they are interested. We cannot prove or disprove that they are interested either by your standards. Until he makes a bid for the club then he is not a viable alternative.

That statement is IMO entirely illogical. (Forget the fact that he has apparently already made a bid for the club). If he has the available cash and the intention, he is by definition a viable alternative, irrespective of our knowledge on the matter.

QUOTE(maccaboy @ Oct 2 2008, 03:13 PM) [snapback]521147[/snapback]
mmm....... moronjag is obviously NOT a believer in the old adage "better the devil you know than the devil you don't"....... and as other posters have noted, many welcomed Huge Spott with open arms purely because they wanted rid of John Wilson - and we all know what happened there.......

MJ DOES seem very keen on the idea of Mr Donald as a "white knight" riding to the rescue, despite the facts that a) we really don't know that he's interested in doing so right now, and Donald has never made public any strategy or plan for taking the club forward. Being successful in other areas of business is no guarantee of success in football - look at Mike Ashley at Newcastle, Alan Sugar at Spurs, even Al-Fayed at Fulham hasn't done much more than keep them out of relegation trouble.

Which begs the question, precisely why is moronjag so keen on AD???

good god - you don't think....... he couldn't be....... naah, he can't be the man himself, given the volume of rubbish spouted on here - but could mj be on the payroll of Mr Donald perhaps??? ohmy.gif blink.gif dry.gif laugh.gif

Why are YOU so obsessed with Mortonjag?

Fatal fascination? Wannabe doctor? Wrong goollie chopped off? Club insider?

I don't think it's any of those. I think you're just another 'saddo' without the ability to generate original thoughts and opinions. You appear to have the wit of a nit and the vision of a brain dead bat.

QUOTE(Ghost @ Oct 2 2008, 04:02 PM) [snapback]521171[/snapback]
I would say that erse Scott never won me over. Infact, thinking back at one point myself and Scott had a grip of each other in the Sinclair St end one day whilst he mingled with fans when i said to him he would be as well building a new park on a barge in the middle of the Clyde, he took exception to this for some reason, cant remember who was with him tbh, possibly that guy Peden ? who dragged Scott away rolleyes.gif

From the moment I saw that man walk across to the Cowshed with McGraw, I despised him. Every aspect of his body language said 'Del Boy', 'chancer', and blaggard. I said to my brother at the time-'I do not trust that man'.
mortonjag 2008-10-02 17:57:25
QUOTE(Stevie Aitken @ Oct 2 2008, 05:20 PM) [snapback]521203[/snapback]
I don't have any sad.gif No-one wants to be mate's with the ginge.

I will be your friend if you feel lonely. I'm very good company.
mortonjag 2008-10-02 18:09:27
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Oct 2 2008, 10:26 AM) [snapback]521047[/snapback]
I find I get flatulance from certain bananas depending on the type and where I buy them. Is this normal MJ.

Eating bananas causes excessive flatulence in certain subjects. I presume you've been eating them and not sticking them up your arse!
mortonjag 2008-10-02 18:14:53
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 2 2008, 04:38 PM) [snapback]521186[/snapback]
Gidday Davie,
Lord Lucan and Sugar Rae I can accept.

However, Shergar was a lot better looking than MJ.

Don't you agree ?

I object to your posting pictures of my son at his computer.
mortonjag 2008-10-02 18:18:46
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Oct 2 2008, 05:15 PM) [snapback]521198[/snapback]
Hi honey. How are you?

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I see you're into wee boys as well Weegie! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-02 18:29:27
QUOTE(gmfc_stinny_gmfc @ Oct 2 2008, 06:18 PM) [snapback]521229[/snapback]
Jimbo should be given a shot at the captaincy. He gives 100% in all games and shows the rest of the team exactly what they should be doing by putting opposition players under pressure at every available point. I see him trying to get the crowd and his team mates going most games.

I just see him girning his face off and blaming others because he runs into the inevitable brick wall.

If Jimbo were to lead the others by his example, they'd be better removing the goals and installing a running circuit.
mortonjag 2008-10-02 19:40:47
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 2 2008, 07:16 PM) [snapback]521248[/snapback]
do you want to tell the mods ?

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Will they listen?
mortonjag 2008-10-02 19:46:16
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 2 2008, 07:41 PM) [snapback]521255[/snapback]
Good luck to the wee Paisley b*****d and Motherwell too.

As Sean would say, 'I hope the Nancy boys get it right up them tonight'! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-02 20:29:42
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Oct 2 2008, 08:18 PM) [snapback]521259[/snapback]
Who gives a toss who is captain? It won't make a blind bit of difference who it is....

A bit like the SNP Spurtle? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-02 20:59:10
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Oct 2 2008, 08:46 PM) [snapback]521266[/snapback]
Alright, calm down MJ! laugh.gif laugh.gif

Aye very funny Anus-I don't like that young woman-she-like yourself is rather impertinent! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-03 06:26:32 Cop out as usual!


The DPP argues that the law is clear enough. His lawyers say the 1961 Suicide Act makes aiding and abetting suicide a criminal offence punishable by up to 14 years in prison, and the Code for Crown Prosecutors gives adequate guidance on when a prosecution is likely.

mortonjag 2008-10-03 06:51:57
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Oct 2 2008, 06:50 PM) [snapback]521239[/snapback]
> Offensive quoted post removed by mod

This is why I don't see all those sticking by DDFR when you have to ask how long will he continue .

I'm glad you were able to answer my 'offensive' post Chris.

It is a term I've used all my life and is still totally acceptable in the English language to a huge number of people especially those of middle age and older. Used by those people it is neither deemed offensive nor intended to cause offence.

Perhaps the Mod in question would care to comment that the post was removed because he regarded it as POTENTIALLY offensive, or perhaps because HE was offended.

I object to the high handed statement that the post WAS offensive. That is merely the Mod's opinion, though I entirely accept he has jurisdiction.

For puzzled posters I used a time honoured phrase which mentions a non white gentleman, and a pile of wood. I compared the Chairman to that.
mortonjag 2008-10-03 07:04:40
QUOTE(se65an @ Oct 2 2008, 10:30 PM) [snapback]521309[/snapback]
Gillain advised that there was plenty of tickets, 800, if more were needed more would be supplied.

Asked if tickets would be available on the day at Dingwall, 'Should be' was the answer.

Think it best you call Ross County to check unsure.gif
Things looking up then Sean?
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mortonjag 2008-10-03 07:13:47
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Oct 2 2008, 11:51 PM) [snapback]521339[/snapback]
Totally agree.

I think I'm right in saying Jenkins missed most of pre-season training. It was always going to be a big ask for him to catch up with the rest of the squad when we don't even have a reserve side for him to play in. I think some of the criticism he's been getting is harsh because, for me, he's still not fully fit, never mind match sharp.

His substitute appearances against Livingston and Queen Of The South (Challenge Cup) showed that a fully fit Allan Jenkins could be a key player for us.

I'd have said 'would'.

I don't think fitness is the only issue. If he was only fit enough for five minutes on Saturday why use him at all. He got about 15 at Palmerston as you say, and was outstanding.

Get Rae to f*ck out of team matters and let the Manager sort things out his own way. Only when that meddlesome old fud is removed will we EVER know what's truly going on behind the scenes. I feel sorry for DI even if I'm unconvinced about his ability.

It just looks a bloody mess and it's ultimately down to Rae. It's definitely past TTGR for me. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-03 07:21:36
QUOTE(18GMFC74 @ Oct 2 2008, 10:59 PM) [snapback]521323[/snapback]
No, FACT!

If you disagree then you are wrong. Simple.

Lee Robinson will be a fantastic 'keeper at a higher level than the Scottish 1st division.

Aye for the St Peter select v God's eleven in Methuselah's testimonial.
mortonjag 2008-10-03 07:37:34
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Oct 3 2008, 12:38 AM) [snapback]521344[/snapback]
My son Dylan is three and a half now but a couple of months into the pregnancy I threw the name Morton into the hat as a suggestion for a first name. I was mostly joking but with that wee bit of me wanting to see how the mrs would react. To my astonishment she liked it and so did some of her family (all Celtic supporters) and then some of mine. Eventually I had to be the one to veto it - the poor boy would've been bullied for life. You get enough of a slagging being a Morton supporter in school, nevermind being a Morton supporter called Morton.

Not quite as bad as 'Cliftonhill McClumpha'.
mortonjag 2008-10-03 07:45:14
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 3 2008, 06:47 AM) [snapback]521362[/snapback]
You're just a philistine chrissiboi. laugh.gif Never mind the dummy sitting on the bog, what about the dummies that think this is art. Marcel Duchamp knew he was taking the piss, but Emin really believes she's an Artist.

Indeed Mr Edwards, but just because almost everybody believes Mr Rae is a passe old fud doesn't make him one!
mortonjag 2008-10-03 08:02:05
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 3 2008, 07:51 AM) [snapback]521371[/snapback]
If you had purchased £1000 of Northern Rock shares one year ago it would now be worth £4.95.

With HBOS, earlier this week your £1000 would have been worth £16.50.

£1000 invested in XL Leisure would now be worth less than £5, but if you bought £1000 worth of Tennents Lager one year ago, drank it all, then took the empty cans to an aluminium re-cycling plant, you would get £214.
So based on the above statistics the best current investment advice is to drink heavily and re-cycle.

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That sounds like a lot of piss.
mortonjag 2008-10-03 08:12:49
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 3 2008, 07:38 AM) [snapback]521368[/snapback]
His previous association with the Huns ?

His profession as a management insultant ?

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Here's the original press report:




In an exclusive interview with the Telegraph, the 53-year-old businessman revealed he joined the Cappielow board simply because he loves the club.

Donald was co-opted to the Morton board earlier this month and chairman Douglas Rae stated his role within the club structure will be ‘almost exclusively, one of overview.’

The move comes as financial director Iain Brown and director Arthur Montford step up to Honorary vice-president roles.

Donald compiled a successful business CV with internet companies in Europe and America during the 1990s. He is a semi-retired senior partner with technology consultancy giants Accenture.

He said: “I watched the Morton games from the Cowshed in the late 50s with my dad, who’s a sixth generation Greenockian. I’ve always had an affiliation with this club.

“In 1977 I moved south to pursue other opportunities. I started a company, which re-branded as Accenture and floated on the NASDAQ about five years ago. We started off with 100 people and, as of today, I think we have around 125,000 people working with us, with a turnover of around £15 billion. It’s been a great success story.

“I have a passion for two clubs — Morton and Rangers. Half my family are Morton, the other half are Rangers fans.

“Morton is a great community club. I remember when the club went into administration six or seven years ago. The administrators got in touch with me down in England and so I came up to have a look. The place was desolate. It was absolutely heartbreaking. I stood there and thought, ‘this is mission impossible.’

“Thankfully, the Rae family came in at that moment and saved the club from almost certain liquidation.

“How did I get involved this time? Well, I’ve known the Raes all my life. I took hospitality here one day and the chairman asked what I was doing with myself.

“He felt my 30 years of business experience down south could help move the club forward, from where we are today, to the next level.


“My agreeing to join the board is a combination of the Raes being involved, my passion for the club and my family association with it.

“I’ll provide an overview, as the chairman rightly says. I’ll question things, think outside the box, play devil’s advocate if you like.

“Some people get into football as an ego trip. I just prefer to be out of the public eye. I don’t want to take credit for anything I do — I just want to help this club. Douglas Rae has done wonders for this club and he deserves the credit.”

Donald was reported to be personally worth £70 million four years ago.

It was also reported he offered to plough £10 million into Rangers back in 2004. When asked about this, he simply smiled and said: “I have no idea what I’m worth — you’ll have to ask my accountants! At this stage we’re not talking about me putting money into the club.

“It’s all about working with the management team and the chairman — to maybe think differently, to maybe generate more revenue from the business contacts I have.





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mortonjag 2008-10-03 08:40:03 0-0 ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-03 08:49:06
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Oct 3 2008, 08:10 AM) [snapback]521377[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(big B @ Sep 28 2008, 03:27 PM) [snapback]519593[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I think you are being a bit harsh on Newby there, we did not see enough of him to say he was pish.
Pish glad to see the back of him

He's still a Ton player and he's far from 'pish' IMO. He gave us width by regularly drifting left, and got over a fair number of decent crosses-UNLIKE Jimbo!

I'm also convinced Jesus loves him. wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-03 08:55:05
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 3 2008, 08:33 AM) [snapback]521379[/snapback]
Perhaps you should enter a likeness of him for the Turner prize then. Sitting on the throne.

Voila!

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mortonjag 2008-10-03 09:21:30 To dazed'n'confused et al!
mortonjag 2008-10-03 10:59:32
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Oct 3 2008, 09:37 AM) [snapback]521411[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif Don't flatter yourself, auld yin (and what a waste of a statement THAT was!!) - I couldn't care less about you.

However, I DO detest the amount of misinformation, allegedly "informed" statements and thye speculation presented as "factual" that you spew out on here.

In short, even tho it's on a limited-circulation messageboard I think you do the club that I support more harm than good - simple as that.

Give me one piece of evidence please. rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(maccaboy @ Oct 3 2008, 09:38 AM) [snapback]521412[/snapback]
hmmm - your master was very quick in getting that copy to you, wasn't he?? dry.gif

I serve no master, nor do I, like some, cow tow to the old fud who is ruining Greenock Morton and whom over 60% of pollsters want out.

QUOTE(maccaboy @ Oct 3 2008, 09:53 AM) [snapback]521418[/snapback]
I had some experience of S**tt prior to his involvement at Cappielow due to us working in the same industry, and the stories about him in that circle were legend. I really hoped Wilson wouldn't sell to him, and I was worried for the future of the club when he did.

His behaviour on the day of the handover, when he saw a photographer from the "tele" taking his photo at the Tontine and stormed over demanding the film "or the deal's off", was typical of my knowledge of him, and things went downhill rapidly at Morton from then on.

That guy woulda caused a fight in an empty house.

What is your opinion about Alistair Donald?
mortonjag 2008-10-03 11:03:08
QUOTE(EBu @ Oct 3 2008, 10:19 AM) [snapback]521433[/snapback]
I really dont see what a Chinese Lumberjack has to do with DDFR??? wink.gif

Chop Susie?
mortonjag 2008-10-03 11:42:50
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Oct 3 2008, 11:21 AM) [snapback]521459[/snapback]
I remember a guy I worked with spouted about the plans for a new stand with conference facilities , I just said that you can get plans from anywhere by that time I had stopped going as I knew the only thing that would hurt Scott was a total boycott .

At that time there were several 'owners' who were rather dubious Knightley , Brearley , Scott just struck me as part of the cancer at that time .

We've had many owners over the years but Scott was the real 'Bogey Man' and folk are still terrified of something similar. Alistair Donald could 'buy and sell' about 50 wee shyster businessmen like Scott. I understand the caution but I do not see him in the same category at all.

I just wish the Trust could get a better idea of his intentions. Mr Rae, after all only owns 3/4 of the Club. Why should everybody else be in the dark?
mortonjag 2008-10-03 12:08:58
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Oct 3 2008, 12:02 PM) [snapback]521475[/snapback]
Your meant to spead your money around a range of different asset classes are you not?

If you lost money in HBOS or Lloyds, you'd have made a profit on shares in Dominos Pizza and Tesco who haven't faltered. If your stupid enough to put all you money into shares in one company, make it one that is traditionally recession proof!

Funeral Director?
mortonjag 2008-10-03 12:22:55
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Oct 3 2008, 12:10 PM) [snapback]521479[/snapback]
"Rover". "Rex". "Fido". Even "Spot".

All good names for lapdogs.

Times change tho, and I suppose "moronjag" is as good a name as any these days....... laugh.gif

That makes absolutely no sense to me. I asked you a serious question. What is your opinion regarding Alistair Donald's intentions?
mortonjag 2008-10-03 13:03:59
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Oct 3 2008, 12:33 PM) [snapback]521487[/snapback]
I feel that if thee sufferer of whatever ailment whether physical or mental has recieved all possible therapies and don't wish to recieve anymore and te doctors involved with psychiatric evaluation then I see no objection .
We save pets and farm animals from suffering yet are willing to let loved ones linger until pnuemo takes them .

I am pragmatic I don't believe in an after life I also believe that when all medical treatments have been exhausted you are a needless burden and I'd be happy for the doctor to end my existence .

I wonder how many posters have personal experience of seeing a loved one die a long and lingering death at the hands of-for example-Multiple Sclerosis-the subject of the current court case.

My ex wife has now suffered from that condition for some fifteen years, and I have first hand experience of many similar tragedies. I firmly believe that voluntary euthanasia is appropriate in certain situations.

mortonjag 2008-10-03 13:20:42
QUOTE(Bryan @ Oct 3 2008, 01:08 PM) [snapback]521495[/snapback]
the mod was correct to remove the post as it is an offensive word and we are active supporters of the "Show Racism the Red Card" it was removed.

Why is it not automatically edited out? You removed the whole sentence. The expression is still in common usage whether the PC brigade like it or not, and it was not intended to be offensive. As you know the word itself had already been 'edited'.
mortonjag 2008-10-03 13:37:42
QUOTE(Bryan @ Oct 3 2008, 01:22 PM) [snapback]521503[/snapback]
failure with the swear filter which has been fixed, it wasnt edited enough..

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QUOTE(mortonjag @ Oct 3 2008, 10:59 AM) *
Give me one piece of evidence please. rolleyes.gif Oh I really don't think that's necessary - anyone familiar with your output will know the things I mean. Besides which, I really can't be ersed - some of us still have to work for a living.......

I serve no master, nor do I, like some, cow tow to the old fud who is ruining Greenock Morton "Kow-tow", you mean - put on the pointy hat and go and stand in the corner, Knowall! Other than that, that comment is not WORTHY of comment....... and whom over 60% of pollsters want out. As Ebbe Skovdahl memorably said, "Statistics are like mini-skirts - they give you big ideas but they hide the most important things......." tongue.gif That "over 60%" figure you find so significant amounts to a grand total of just 57 votes at present, which I've no doubt includes multiple votes from those who have more than one ID on here. 57 votes. SO WHAT??? laugh.gif

What is your opinion about Alistair Donald? I don't know enough about Alistair Donald, or any intentions that he may have regarding MFC, to HAVE a qualified opinion - I don't work for him, you see! laugh.gif However, I'm open-minded about him and his possible future involvement - I'm neither for him nor agin him till I know more about him.



laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

So you can't back up your accusations, rubbish the opinions of your fellow posters, know f*ck all about AD but still see fit to suggest that Mortonjag is one of his employees!

Here's an easier question then.

Are YOU satisfied with the job Mr Rae is doing at Greenock Morton?

Bear in mind that your fellow posters whom you see fit to ridicule will be curious to hear your answer.
mortonjag 2008-10-03 13:57:04
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Oct 3 2008, 01:34 PM) [snapback]521507[/snapback]
There are 2 letters in the tele. One is from Irnbru, the other asking Rae to "offer an explanation of his plans, and visions for the future".

What does the other letter say?
mortonjag 2008-10-03 14:06:28
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Oct 3 2008, 02:04 PM) [snapback]521522[/snapback]
Dear Mr Rae,
Please excuse my 'friend' from not turning up to games for the next 4 months, as he is allergic to pish.

yours for ever
Mr P.Offed.

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mortonjag 2008-10-03 14:19:45
QUOTE(leyTON @ Oct 3 2008, 02:15 PM) [snapback]521526[/snapback]
Having just met VT in the flesh for the first time, and realised his "debating" style is as bad, if not worse as it is on here.
First impressions are not deceiving, he is the same man in the flesh
Wondered what others thought.

I'm quite surprised. I thought that others who have met him claimed 'he wouldn't say boo to a goose'.

You may have sex with him if you wish! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-03 16:25:56
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Oct 3 2008, 02:34 PM) [snapback]521533[/snapback]
"So you can't back up your accusations, rubbish the opinions of your fellow posters, know f*ck all about AD but still see fit to suggest that Mortonjag is one of his employees!

Here's an easier question then.

Are YOU satisfied with the job Mr Rae is doing at Greenock Morton?

Bear in mind that your fellow posters whom you see fit to ridicule will be curious to hear your answer."

heh heh - typical MJ distortion of the FACTS!! laugh.gif

1. "you can't back up your accusations" - I could easily back up the statement - in fact, your reply above goes a long way towards doing it FOR me - but, as I said before, I haven't the time to trawl through your ramblings just to prove the blindingly obvious. How that transmutes into "CAN'T" only you will know! laugh.gif

2. "rubbish the opinions of your fellow posters" - How, pray tell, have I rubbished the opinions of fellow posters? Nonsense, mj - I rubbished the ineffectual nature of the POLL earlier in the thread, and the NUMBER OF VOTES in the post in question - NOT the opinions of those who voted, and well you know it! MORE distortions from you! laugh.gif

3. "still see fit to suggest that Mortonjag is one of his employees" - Ahh, I see - it's allowable for YOU to suggest that anyone who pulls you up for constantly slagging off the Raes is in their employ, but Heaven help anyone who suggests that YOU work for/are in thrall too/are up the erse of(to use your expression) AD!! Even tho you seem to be toadying to him and pushing for him to take over the club WITHOUT ANYTHING OTHER THAN ONE MONTHS-OLD "TELE" ARTICLE AS AN INDICATION OF HIS (THEN) INTENTIONS! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
You really are a bit of a laughing-stock on here, you know, and this oft-used tactic that you have of distorting the words of others in order to sway opinions against the poster is wearing very thin now!! laugh.gif tongue.gif
As for my opinion of Douglas Rae - I'm a supporter of MORTON, NOT of any one individual, whether it be Chairman, Director, manager or player! If the team is winning and the ground's in good nick, I don't particularly care who's in charge or who owns what - like everyone else, I'm NOT happy with results right now, but who knows - in 10 days from now we may be off the bottom of the League and looking to move higher AND have a Cup Final to look forward to....... hope springs eternal, and that's what being a "supporter" of ANY club is all about!!

Debate over for now, as far as I'm concerned - I've MUCH more important things to do than have a battle of wits with an unarmed man....... dry.gif

I'm pretty certain that most reasonable posters will have concluded by now that you are a Rae sycophant. I'm delighted to hear you will be saying no more on the subject.
mortonjag 2008-10-03 16:28:58
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Oct 3 2008, 03:09 PM) [snapback]521546[/snapback]
Meanwhile back at the ranch .

Letters in the tele asking DDFR for answers they are getting brave !! Is the guy who usually sweeps any contraversy under the carpet off sick with repeditive strain disorder .

Does Mr Rae read the Tilly, or does somebody else read it for him? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-03 16:36:51
QUOTE(theoceanfloor @ Oct 3 2008, 03:49 PM) [snapback]521565[/snapback]
Cheers, Jonaton.

I wonder who wrote the second letter... rolleyes.gif

Both letters address important failings in the way the club is being run.

I'm interested to know if posters think that the real Morton fans (who of course don't use this wee massage board) will now be writing to the Tilly in their droves in support of the Club and everything that's good about it.
Undoubtedly their angry and distressed responses will throw the poll results on Mr Rae into complete chaos, proving him still to be the Darling Sugar Daddy of Cappielow! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-03 17:31:46
QUOTE(maccaboy @ Oct 3 2008, 04:15 PM) [snapback]521575[/snapback]
ohmy.gif .......but he doesn't refer to himself in the third person....... blink.gif

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What do you think of the letter from the lady whose name and address has been withheld?

She seems to re-iterate much of what the forum users have been saying.

Maybe the REAL fans are beginning to wake up to reality! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-03 17:43:58
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Oct 3 2008, 05:26 PM) [snapback]521593[/snapback]
Everyone thinks they know all that they need to at 18. The lad's no different.

And he does a good wind up on P&B.

Good gracious Mr Bam-you've plainly been reading too many of SPARROT'S postings! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-03 18:20:39
QUOTE(Torro @ Oct 3 2008, 05:54 PM) [snapback]521604[/snapback]
Does anyone have an imaginary voice for MJ that rips through there head when reading his posts? a kind of even more nasal james sanderson comes to mind - that same wee voice popped up when reading the wee letter in the tillie ! rolleyes.gif


I have to say I'm flattered Torro-not by the allusion to James Sanderson -but by the suggestion that Mortonjag is the only person willing to question the Rae dynasty. Somebody has had the baws (or otherwise!) to ask legitimate questions. The letter is couched in reasonable English-something Mortonjag commends. There are surely SOME other literate Morton fans!!! dry.gif


QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Oct 3 2008, 06:14 PM) [snapback]521613[/snapback]
What lady would that be? Big Blue Eyes? wink.gif

Why don't you ask her? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-03 18:26:03
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Oct 3 2008, 06:22 PM) [snapback]521619[/snapback]
I just did. happy.gif

What was her response?
mortonjag 2008-10-03 18:35:21
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Oct 3 2008, 06:20 PM) [snapback]521614[/snapback]
Is this a form of Internet bullying Leyton ? No doubt you have a Bebo with pictures of yer homies- in a variety of 50 cent poses, sporting machettes. You might even have that west side gansta TWGP in there . VT should be very afraid. sad.gif

IMHO Cloth Ears, 'Internet Bullying' is a misnomer for the situation in which inadequates who are incapable of coping with clever use of a keyboard are too stupid to stay out of 'the kitchen' and bleat to fellow posters and to Moderators!

VT, deliberately or otherwise, presents himself as an arrogant and self opinionated little boy. If he wants to chuck it out, he has to take it back.

I voted that he should be shagged BTW, as there was no option for tanning little pink botties, and I detest blood and snot on my knuckles! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-03 18:40:05
QUOTE(Tooth & Nail @ Oct 3 2008, 06:13 PM) [snapback]521610[/snapback]
Just wondered if there are any pics from the last 2 games?

Or have u given up now? tongue.gif

I don't think so. Tontastic is an official club photographer.
mortonjag 2008-10-03 18:43:41
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Oct 3 2008, 06:38 PM) [snapback]521632[/snapback]
That's his problem, actually. He needs pumped. Someone fix the boy a wee dirty to pop his cherry.

I'll do it! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-03 18:53:18
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Oct 3 2008, 06:39 PM) [snapback]521633[/snapback]
Apparently I'm to ask you her again. wink.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Bloody hell - Dunning.

Somebody started a thread about a couple of excellent letters in the Tilly, and it's ended up with Mortonjag AGAIN being accused of being some daft wee lassie (or some other daft poster)!

Mortonjag is NOT BBE!

Mortonjag hopes that many others will now write letters to the Tilly. The tide has clearly turned when our local newspaper has had the baws to publish something vaguely critical of the 'Fud of Fort Matilda'.

Long may that continue. blush.gif

mortonjag 2008-10-03 19:35:49
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Oct 3 2008, 07:00 PM) [snapback]521644[/snapback]
Oh I agree with the letter, I think it was excellent, and I also happen to think it was you who wrote it.

I can understand why you might imagine that, but don't forget-as others are frequently wont to remind us-that this wee massage board only represents a very small number of Morton fans.

It's pretty demeaning of your fellow supporters IMO to suggest that none of them is capable of producing that letter.

Full credit to the author, and full credit to the editor for publishing it. I hope more folk will now see fit to question the status quo.
mortonjag 2008-10-03 19:43:36
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Oct 3 2008, 07:31 PM) [snapback]521656[/snapback]
Your sources are getting worse and worse sir

My sources have never let me down. Have you ever heard the expression-'A week's a long time in football'?

Here's what I said almost four weeks ago!

Nope folks-the Tilly wouldn't publish such an overt criticism of Mr Rae.
Not quite time for that yet!


Mortonjag does not make mistakes. smile.gif

mortonjag 2008-10-03 19:48:08
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Oct 3 2008, 07:40 PM) [snapback]521660[/snapback]
Remember the b4st4rd on the big breakfast with his brood , he had owed the club for weeks .
I recall he was in the paper for days after the wreath incident .

Look the days of someone coming in and asset strip the club are gone the council won't grant alternative planning permission unless the owners have a suitable replacement . The only assets are Cappielow and the training ground at Quarriers .

So I think fears about another Huge Spott scenario seems unlikely .

Indeed Chrissiboi, but there are still those who will not venture outdoors without the reassurance of belt, braces, fanny pad, AND jock strap! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-03 19:52:19
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Oct 3 2008, 07:17 PM) [snapback]521649[/snapback]
30 is the new 20 anyway. ph34r.gif

Correct Mrs T., and by the same formula, 60 is the new 40. Are you busy this weekend. I drive a very fine lorry! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-03 19:56:02
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Oct 3 2008, 06:47 PM) [snapback]521639[/snapback]
I thought he was one of your offspring, at one point. He's a smart kid and he'll learn. Whatever happened to you ? tongue.gif

I grew up Cloth Ears!

Yourself?
mortonjag 2008-10-03 19:57:57
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Oct 3 2008, 06:54 PM) [snapback]521642[/snapback]
That'll make him an insider then. Up Dougies Ronson rolleyes.gif

Do you think so? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-03 20:00:37
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Oct 3 2008, 07:57 PM) [snapback]521671[/snapback]
I doubt the Ton will be in the SPL within 4-5 years. ph34r.gif

As things stand-I agree. I believe the tide is turning.
mortonjag 2008-10-03 20:05:33
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 3 2008, 07:54 PM) [snapback]521667[/snapback]
... and your point is, caller ?

huh.gif

unsure.gif

That many still fear smallpox when it has been eradicated worldwide! smile.gif

mortonjag 2008-10-03 20:18:54
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Oct 3 2008, 08:06 PM) [snapback]521678[/snapback]
I think a large number of people on here, going on the way they raise complaints on here, are more than capable of writing a letter to the Greenock Telegraph. I am going to write a response, and am going to be asking questions if it doesn't go in.

Not right now though, stuff to prepare for the trip tomorrow and then bed! smile.gif

smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-03 20:24:59
QUOTE(stuart @ Oct 3 2008, 08:18 PM) [snapback]521682[/snapback]
The tide isn't turning I don't think, price falls are increasing month by month and we still have a bit of catching up to do with England. The banks aren't going to restart their mad lending practices again for a long time either so the housing market won't reach the same levels they were at a year or so ago. All good news though that housing is now becoming more affordable again for the ordinary person without them getting up to their eyeballs in debt for 30 years with massive repayments every month.

I see us following the Japanese housing downturn, prices still haven't recovered some 15-20 years on.

I think the tide is turning at Cappielow!
mortonjag 2008-10-03 20:47:36
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 3 2008, 08:44 PM) [snapback]521691[/snapback]
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mortonjag 2008-10-03 20:59:46
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 3 2008, 08:47 PM) [snapback]521692[/snapback]
I call that Mortonjag will bottle it again. blush.gif

Mortonjag does not 'bottle' anything, SPARROT-not even his victims' urine.

Mortonjag has stated unequivocally that he was not prepared to waste his valuable time listening to THAT self obsessed old fud talk down those who were crazy enough to imagine he would answer their questions.

Please don't insult with the usual tedious and predictable comparison. Mortonjag is a highly intelligent, highly qualified, and vastly experienced professional gentleman. Mortonjag does not manufacture Fudgy Wudgys.

What did you think of those letters to the Tilly? Do you think 'Mr Fudgy Wudgy' will respond quickly? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-03 21:13:29
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 3 2008, 09:01 PM) [snapback]521697[/snapback]
...no..you said you were away in London smile.gif

Are the two mutually exclusive?

Show Mortonjag that post please, and BTW he thought you were going to send him a wee p.m.! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-03 21:16:40
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 3 2008, 09:13 PM) [snapback]521700[/snapback]
I wouldn't waste my time reading that rag of a paper.
I'm sure his response time will hinge on the successes or otherwise that lie ahead, starting tomorrow of course.

smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-03 21:37:45
QUOTE(9 Strathblane Crescent @ Oct 3 2008, 09:21 PM) [snapback]521703[/snapback]
And of course you can guarantee that?

It's less certain, I'll grant you, than the death throes of Rae sycophancy. rip.gif

What is YOUR assessment of Mr Rae's current performance?
mortonjag 2008-10-03 21:46:13
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 3 2008, 09:37 PM) [snapback]521711[/snapback]
Heard Willowman's good at getting plastered
...wait..that's not right is it?

Nope Puggs-just tediously and predictably unfunny.

I'm just about to have supper-fried pigs ovaries on a bed of lambs' lettuce, marinated for twenty four hours in semi solid frogs' keech. Care for a wee nibble?


FAO MidTONs -wise to get a plasterer on personal recommendation Jim. Highly specialised trade (contrary to what many think).
mortonjag 2008-10-04 07:02:40
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 3 2008, 09:55 PM) [snapback]521727[/snapback]
The irony is not lost on you ever is it? wub.gif

That's just a standard variation of your usual 'pot, kettle, black', and incidentally you still haven't produced the promised p.m., which is relevant to that AND to my posting here! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-04 07:11:28
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 3 2008, 10:44 PM) [snapback]521758[/snapback]
Answer was there none.

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If you've ever had pertussis Newt, you'll know the association of real whoops with a chronic and troublesome affliction most commonly demonstrated by immature children.
mortonjag 2008-10-04 07:24:40
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Oct 3 2008, 09:47 PM) [snapback]521718[/snapback]
MJ refers to a fanny pad and it reappears !!

Where have you been ??

I thought you had retired when McInally went ...

There are no guarantees with pretty much anything , worldwide banking crisis , weapons of mass destruction (no reference to anyone in particular .... honest ) , take your pick .

There are no handcuffs on DDFR to renovate the stadia to SPL standards unless we are in danger of playing there .

Just as there are no definites that Crawford would want to takeover the reigns from Pop .

Why would a guy who is semi retired doesn't really know how much he is worth want the club for any other reason than to make good . I have to ask if you have doubts about Mr Donald why is the on the board ?

DDFR commented that he was an expert in business and he expressed the benefits of having someone like that on board .


I sometimes get bizarre lateral thought processes Chrissiboi. 'Fanny' made me think of that funny bit in Chaucer's MILLAR'S TALE-oh no that's Chris -he's Midge-you're PETER-no, he's Spoonsy ....sorry Chrissiboi, I'll off for my 'halcyon' pill.


THERE-I'm ok again and so sorry..........the funny bit in the Miller's tale where the fanny is kissed followed by the astounded comment that 'a woman hath no beard'.

I see we're up to 62% anti fuddery this morning!
mortonjag 2008-10-04 07:42:24
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Oct 3 2008, 09:49 PM) [snapback]521720[/snapback]
Oh yes you are. Idiot. laugh.gif

OH NO, Mortonjag's NOT-Anus. How long will your hero take to repudiate those letters?



repudiate

verb (used with object)
to reject with disapproval or condemnation: to repudiate a new doctrine. wacko.gif



QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 3 2008, 10:18 PM) [snapback]521743[/snapback]
Well you did ask
Seems you were 'out the country'; the defence rests smile.gif

And you'll get your PM sometime Sunday I predict

I did indeed ask as I couldn't be arsed trawling back through hunners of posts. I simply wanted to see how I had worded it. I well remember now deciding to 'go for it' knowing full well that you and the rest of the wee 'f*nnies' would call me a baw bag anyway-damned if I did, and damned if I didn't. The truth is that, had listening to the Fudmeister drone on been more important, I could have cancelled that trip at an hour's notice.

...or to put it differently I've NEVER had a case to answer! laugh.gif


It's not MY p.m. by the way-I did not request one though it will be interesting to hear your comments on what I said to you. Why is it taking so long-is it being ghost written for you by a English scholar? laugh.gif


How soon do you think the old sugar boiler will take to 'knee jerk' in the Tilly?
mortonjag 2008-10-04 07:49:05
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 4 2008, 05:02 AM) [snapback]521803[/snapback]
Or this getting up at 5am so as to get the first train may not be worth it laugh.gif

Didn't you mean 'We had better win'?

Anyway-I'm not going as the weather's pish. My brother and I will take in next Sunday's instead-never planned to do both.

I was predicting a 0-0 draw, but this morning I have a good feeling that we'll get the three points. bouncy.gif eek.gif bouncy.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-04 07:59:52 All this talk of a DDR2 has got me worried sick.
mortonjag 2008-10-04 08:11:15
QUOTE(Gonzo @ Oct 4 2008, 12:24 AM) [snapback]521789[/snapback]
went for the third option, basically because the conversation leads to this every time i meet him ...

also, the conversation resulting in the construction of this poll was truly hilarious :L
i draw the conclusion that VT is a pretentious moron with a messiah complex and an awful sense of direction !

however not a bad guy at all biggrin.gif and yes i got VT confused with another poster however one day his urinal confrontation shall come, even if only due to mjs months of stalking resulting in a prison sentence unsure.gif

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I have merely been attempting to give the child the benefit of my wisdom. A shag in return is cheap in terms of tuition fees.
mortonjag 2008-10-04 08:32:16
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Oct 3 2008, 11:06 PM) [snapback]521774[/snapback]
I can't really blame Emin or Hirst, frauds and cack artists they might be, but they're flexing their egos and exploiting delusions in return for fame and big bucks. I blame the art establishment: the collectors, investors, media mugs, sunday supplement sycophants and fashion followers. That fecking lot of charlatans wouldn't know the difference between the Mona Lisa and a pig's arse.

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mortonjag 2008-10-04 09:12:57
QUOTE(midTONs @ Oct 3 2008, 10:35 PM) [snapback]521748[/snapback]
The birch.

CORRECT

QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 3 2008, 10:44 PM) [snapback]521757[/snapback]
I'm not biting.

Good-that'll save me having to wade through another ten pages of your self indulgent slavering about your heroic exploits in your knife crime rife scheme. mad.gif

Carry a knife-get tanned within an inch of your life-it's about freedom of choice sonny boy!!!

If you want to keep your arse nice and pink for your first gay encounter, don't go out 'tooled up'! mad.gif ph34r.gif dry.gif

PS...and the moment one of your loved ones dies in an unprovoked stabbing, all that fanciful nonsense will flee your cranium like snow off a dyke. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-04 09:37:57
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Oct 4 2008, 09:32 AM) [snapback]521823[/snapback]
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....and if you keep voting it could get even higher rolleyes.gif

I have already used up all 62 votes Cloth Ears. Prepare to see a massive reversal in the Fudmeister's fortunes! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-04 10:14:02
QUOTE(capitanus @ Oct 4 2008, 10:00 AM) [snapback]521826[/snapback]
FWIW I think VikingTon is one of the good guys out there.

I may not always agree with him but he is comes out with some decent, well reasoned contributions to these messageboard most often in a very articulate manner.

Its only a messageboard on t'Internet. Get a grip folks. smile.gif

He fakes articulacy by use of plagiarism. Catch VT 'off guard', and you will find a roughly hewn youth who has barely mastered the arts of reading and writing!

He is, however, a bright child, of whom Mortonjag is somewhat fond.

When he learns to accept Mortonjag's frequent and helpful advice, his life will improve drastically, as will his English prose and grammar!
mortonjag 2008-10-04 13:04:00
QUOTE(The Hustler @ Oct 4 2008, 11:37 AM) [snapback]521848[/snapback]
Clearly a crucial match for us today and especially for the Manager. I see that Michael Gardyne was quoted in the DailyRanger today stating that Morton players are on a "double win bonus" to beat County. Seems to smack of desperation to me if that is the case and it also makes us sound like a bunch of mercenaries. Disappointing as I figure the players owe the club and the fans a turn without getting double money.


HMM-if true, sounds like Rae's making a last ditch effort to save face with his choice of Manager, and of course if it backfires DI will probably be off shortly.
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 4 2008, 12:16 PM) [snapback]521863[/snapback]
The double win bonus was mentioned in some local teuchter press up there - personally I was suprised that the printing press had arrived in backwardland.

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A very civilised and respectable neck o' the woods. Not too many morons running about schemes with chibs VT!
mortonjag 2008-10-04 13:15:22
QUOTE(capitanus @ Oct 4 2008, 10:22 AM) [snapback]521831[/snapback]
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Sometimes you remind me of Julian Danskin.

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QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 4 2008, 11:50 AM) [snapback]521852[/snapback]
Thought you'd have lost your teeth by now. happy.gif

You get SO much wrong my boy! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-04 13:25:11
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 4 2008, 11:53 AM) [snapback]521853[/snapback]
I'd like to think a balance in society ought to be struck between civil liberties and safety. It appears some would welcome the Gestapo if it meant a reduction in such cases. Their valid opinion, but one I'm not willing to share.

If they are solely to deal with knife wielding scumbags, bring them on AND their boss!

QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 4 2008, 12:09 PM) [snapback]521857[/snapback]
There's a certain irony about your post.

No there's nothing ironic about finding your flogging a dead horse utterly tiresome. You've made up your little mind that you 'know better', and listen son-you know f*ck all-so f*ck off on this one.

If you want to tell me about pop choons, PS3, and street cred, I won't argue with YOU! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-04 14:27:43
QUOTE(lazy_ar*e_student @ Oct 4 2008, 01:47 PM) [snapback]521890[/snapback]
Boys. Can your Uncle Ian give you some advice? Rather than go to politics lectures and then post on some internet board about how popular someone is or isn't, can I suggest that you get yourself down the the Union. Do you realise there is cheap alcohol and girls in there and there is so much fun to be had- you ask any of the graduates on this board about how much fun was had in the Union because in 4 years time when you've graduated and your in some call centre or office you're going to look back and say "f***, I wish I had pulled that wee bird rather than have a debate on the internet".

One further piece of advice if you do try and chat a bird up to try and pop your cherry don't do the following: talk about politics, talk about the Morton board and dont ask can she pop your cherry cause you'll get a boot on the baws and you cannae run with sore baws.

Boys it's been a pleasure, but like a Jews foreskin, I'm offski.

Would any adults like to confirm corroborate this please?

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If you mean that freshers are often wee f*nnies-YES!
mortonjag 2008-10-04 16:30:04
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Oct 4 2008, 04:26 PM) [snapback]522033[/snapback]
I don't think he does panic, he just misses chances lke every good striker does. He also continues to get into goal scoring positions.

The manager showing a bit more faith in him will boost his confidence further and his ratio of chances to goals will greatly improve. Dropping him after albeit a crucial miss is shocking man management when you consider others have been putting in below par performances all season and not pulling their weight in the same manner as Russell.

Don't care what anyone says, I've seen how clinical he was with Brechin, he's a natural.

Correct!
mortonjag 2008-10-04 16:31:29
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Oct 4 2008, 04:29 PM) [snapback]522043[/snapback]
1-0 county

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mortonjag 2008-10-04 16:33:15
QUOTE(El gofer @ Oct 4 2008, 04:31 PM) [snapback]522050[/snapback]
You are joking! Is that 2 in a minute?

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mortonjag 2008-10-04 16:38:05
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Oct 4 2008, 04:34 PM) [snapback]522067[/snapback]
Not like you to show up on a match thread. rolleyes.gif

Welcome along.

That's 'cos I'm always at matches Naitch-anyway thanks!


TTGI?
mortonjag 2008-10-04 16:40:42
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Oct 4 2008, 04:36 PM) [snapback]522076[/snapback]
Won't make one iota of difference if Irons goes, maybe only temporarily.

We've a small, imbalanced, crap squad tied up on long contracts with big wages and no money to spend.

Until Rae either sells up or invites inward investment we'll be stuck in this rut. laugh.gif

TTGR?
mortonjag 2008-10-04 16:45:13
QUOTE(Malt @ Oct 4 2008, 04:40 PM) [snapback]522097[/snapback]
Rae has got to take a good, hard look at himself.

He has taken us as far as he can. Don;t think he realises how big a job it is being a chairman of a football club, he likes to play on former glory -

Bring back Hopkin, Bring back Mahood, Hawke, Argy top, Tartan top etc

Not good enough. A clear out is needed.

We will lose any TV deal that BBC alba may create as we will be in 2nd division at this rate.

SORT IT OUT RAE. NOT f***ING ACCEPTABLE!



QUOTE(Malt @ Oct 4 2008, 04:42 PM) [snapback]522109[/snapback]
Rae is taking us backward. Looks like he will be a ppointing his 6th or 7th manager.

Disgraceful. The £180k debt is gonna increase when fans vote with their feet and we are in 2nd division AGAIN.

some 3 year plan he had.

Would prob be better with Willy Wonka as Chairman as apposed to this joke!

mortonjag 2008-10-04 16:50:54
f*** OFF RAE YOU INCOMPETENT OLD FUD

f*** RIGHT OFF YOU F*CKING EMBARRASSMENT OF A MAN

YOUR CREDIBILITY IS THANKFULLY GONE FOREVER-IT WILL NOT RETURN

WHY DID FOLK LAUGH ME TO SCORN THREE YEARS AGO?

YOU HAVE DRAGGED OUR CLUB BACK TO THE GUTTER

WELL F*CKIN' DONE YOU INCOMPETENT OLD FUD


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mortonjag 2008-10-04 17:02:00
QUOTE(Malt @ Oct 4 2008, 04:51 PM) [snapback]522149[/snapback]
If you look back I did not have Irons as my favoured choice when we seen the shortlist. I was for Jim Duffy.

There is a trend that regardless of who the manager is, the same problems occur. The only thing that remains the same is the man at the top.

He is the one who appoints these guys as managers and we aint really seen anyone who has performed above average.

Why the f*** should I lay off Rae? I pay a lot of money to watch morton and getting very little in return. I am sick and tired of the same old rubbish, bring a friend etc Provide us with good football and a clear, achievale plan for the future and we will bring our whole family and their friends.

The problem is at the top. Has been for many a time. Doesn;t matter who the manager is. As long as it is the Dougie Rae show we aint going anywhere!"

EXACTLY-Irons will now be sacrificed. Who signed bloody Irons. Get RAE TO F*CK!

QUOTE(The Naitch @ Oct 4 2008, 04:53 PM) [snapback]522157[/snapback]
You've been listening to Joe Kinnear's press conferences, haven't you? tongue.gif
Still, no point in launching a personal attack against Rae... he is a nice guy. As Morton Chairman though, the time has come for him to 'review' his position and hopefully sell up to someone who has the ability/ambition to move this club forward.

NO HE IS NOT A NICE GUY-HIS EGO IS BIGGER THAN ALL OF US-I WARNED THREE YEARS AGO-I DON'T CARE ANY MORE ABOUT F*CKING NICETIES-FOLK ARE ALREADY WRITING TO THE PAPERS-RAE ANSWERS TO NOBODY-WELL IT'S TIME TO START GIVING SOME ANSWERS WITH HIS BLOODY FEET-SIGN A COMPETENT DIRECTOR OF FOOTBALL NOW AND DISAF*CKING PEAR! ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-04 17:24:23
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Oct 4 2008, 05:11 PM) [snapback]522214[/snapback]
Director of football? Now I know you're kidding... rolleyes.gif
Why don't we just go for Mr Kinnear, he won't be doing anything in a few weeks time...tongue.gif

I am NOT kidding. I've always known Rae could never fully step aside. I suggested a Director of Football three years ago as the only option that MIGHT work while he's still around, but even then I doubt if he could delegate. It actually HURTS me that quite a few still can't see what a bloody menace that man is. Irons will be sacrificed forthwith. Rae has no choice-it will happen-guaranteed, and the old fud will YET AGAIN try to buy some time, while ignoring us completely in preference to the remaining sycophantic weasels who still get high on a mere whiff of his flatus.

RAE-JUST GET TO F*CK PLEASE. rip.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-04 17:38:33
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Oct 4 2008, 05:30 PM) [snapback]522259[/snapback]
The Director of Football post just does not work on these shores. It's not an option IMHO.

EDIT: The bit in bold there... you should tell him that to his face. If only there was some sort of organised get together between the fans and the board. Maybe even a Q&A session.... rolleyes.gif

GROW UP FFS-this is NOT the time for cheap jibes-Rae answers to nobody-his Q & A'S ARE A STAGE MANAGED JOKE.

If you are so bloody clever WHAT IS THE OPTION? Irons like every manager before him is only a pawn on Rae's rickety old chess board, and the old eejit has just been put into 'mate' by his own ego.
mortonjag 2008-10-04 17:45:13
QUOTE(Muz @ Oct 4 2008, 05:01 PM) [snapback]522184[/snapback]
Two common denominators here throughout, and it's not the support so that's one.

I want answers Douglas. Now.

Oh I'm sure you'll be getting them aplenty once Irons has been shown the door. In a week or so he'll be announcing proudly his next f*cking stooge who 'will be with us for a long time to come'.

GET HIM TO F*CK OUT OF OUR LIVES.
mortonjag 2008-10-04 17:52:02
QUOTE(Cawston @ Oct 4 2008, 05:31 PM) [snapback]522265[/snapback]
He's been playing his cards to his chest since arriving at Cappielow, but surely if he has a hand to play now is the time.

He talked about being at the club in an advisory capacity, what advice is he actually providing? Nothing appears to have changed for the better.

Time to out yourself Alistair, "are you up for it"?


What an original question Cawstick-I've a good mind to do you for copyright infringement! laugh.gif
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 4 2008, 05:33 PM) [snapback]522272[/snapback]
The script is about 35 pages of mostly idle conjecture, slurs and little of actual worth, unfortunately. Despite the prevalence of these threads I haven't the foggiest as to what is happening regarding this. I'm sure Mortonjag does...

Correct-you haven't, and until you grow up-stay off serious threads please. Time for your next nappy change.

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Oct 4 2008, 05:36 PM) [snapback]522278[/snapback]
As I have mentioned before, there is no knight in shining armour waiting to take over.
If Dougie wants to stay then he will. At this moment in time Crawford is the only other option.


PROOF?
QUOTE(Youngsa @ Oct 4 2008, 05:46 PM) [snapback]522307[/snapback]
Can we take it that his advice has been one of the following

1. Its not been forthcoming
2. Is s***e
3. Has been ignored
Something has not been right at Cappielow for some time and you get the feeling its about to come to a head.


Indeed Youngsa-something that's 77 years of age, and has the cheek to talk about a results driven game when it's his bloody ba' we have to play with.
mortonjag 2008-10-04 18:06:59 In a few weeks Davie Irons who has undoubtedly done his best, will be a distant memory at Cappielow. The man whom the Chairman promised 'Would be with us for a long time to come' will have been sacrificed amidst the usual platitudes about his 'decency, professionalism, and dedication' and mumblings about ' A results driven business'.

It is indeed a results driven business Mr Rae- a business which you've singularly failed to manage competently from day one. All the spin in the world cannot disguise the true facts that we STRUGGLED our way to division one and are now plummeting back down the leagues. ONLY ONE person is ultimately to blame-the man who swans onto the pitch to give his little pre-match talks-the man who sickened Alan McGraw with his interference in team matters-the man whose programme notes are merely thinly disguised self gratifying drivel. In seven short years Morton's saviour has become Morton's executioner.

So I say to all true Morton fans-it's time to forget our petty squabbles and differences. It's time to stop singling out individual players, or wishing a public hanging on yet another management team.

Only when Rae is MADE to step aside is there any chance of progress. I don't know how that can be accomplished, but so long as he believes he still has a shred of support, it's going to be longer coming round.


TTGR!
mortonjag 2008-10-04 18:24:24
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Oct 4 2008, 06:13 PM) [snapback]522355[/snapback]
Buy the club then. Or start phoning men who could. Maybe you could start a campaign to find a potential buyer, getting Rae out will be our death if we didn't find a suitable buyer. So why don't you actually do something useful and start a positive campaign, instead of a negative one.

I don't want to upset anybody by using emotive language. Instead I'll merely ask you what is in the slightest negative about looking for general agreement on the underlying problem? Until there is acceptance of the disease we can't start effectively looking for a cure. I've just listened to 'Derek from Paisley' on Jim Traynor's 'phone in-saying EXACTLY what I'm saying-and guess what-Traynor was agreeing with him. Without the fansTraynor says, the Chairman has nothing.
mortonjag 2008-10-04 18:35:06
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Oct 4 2008, 06:16 PM) [snapback]522362[/snapback]
MJ, you have failed to give one specific fact about Rae. It's all conjecture. The same as it's conjecture about someone wanting to buy the Club.
If Irons goes then he deserves to go by the results we have had to endure.

I have heard of no player or manager past or present that has had a problem with Dougie interfering in team matters. The only place I have heard it is on these message boards.
When Irons came in and saved us from the drop, we were happy to see him take the helm at Cappielow. He basically made it impossible for Dougie not to hire him as Manager.

I haven't a clue what's gone wrong this season. But I'm not going to solely lay the blame on Dougies door step.
The players and management are in front of Dougie in the blame game.

It is not all conjecture Spurtle. I can't afford to get angry or upset about it-several other posters will confirm that.

QUOTE(cornbeef @ Oct 4 2008, 06:21 PM) [snapback]522365[/snapback]
Just what we needed - another anti Rae thread by Mortonjag. Haven't you made your position clear in the bulk of 25k posts ? yer becoming a bore now.

It is not MY position. It may have been MY position three years ago, but the tide has well and truly turned. Mr Rae deserves everything that's coming to him and more, and I am far from a voice crying in the wilderness now.

Come revolutions, people like yourself and Spoonton tend to become mob fodder-that's just another fact of life.

It's NOT another 'anti Rae thread'- it's an appeal to folk to finally accept reality. We've already had a 60/40 poll saying it's time to go, and 'time to go' it most certainly is.

Either that or we can continue to be treated like rape victims as we slither miserably back to the Third Division and possibly worse.
mortonjag 2008-10-04 18:50:17
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Oct 4 2008, 06:33 PM) [snapback]522388[/snapback]
The fans wanted McInally out, not Rae. Many in the game believe McInally has a bright future in the game as a coach ( I'm not one of them I have to say).
Many of us wanted Irons after he saved the Club going to the 2nd division, same as Dougie.

Dougie is not perfect but he is getting flack from some with the benefit if hindsight.

Which he THOROUGHLY deserves.

QUOTE(cmdc @ Oct 4 2008, 06:35 PM) [snapback]522393[/snapback]
That's well and good, and I agree with the problems you've highlighted...but there is no potential "new regime" to speak of. What's more, unless a potential buyer is cash rich, the credit situation would probably make this about the worst time to go out and look for a buyer.

Except for a man worth almost 100 million sitting right next to Rae in the bloody Directors' box.
NOne so blind!!!!!!!!!!!!!
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Oct 4 2008, 06:38 PM) [snapback]522396[/snapback]
Sorry MJ, until you provide one scintilla of factual evidence then it is conjecture.


Listen Spurtle-I'm not on here for the sake of a clever argument over words. We're heading for guaranteed relegation and it's a serious matter. Along with several other posters 'in the know' I'm genuinely VERY concerned about the future of our club. I've never suggested Rae should be hounded out-he could still take a sidestep and appoint competent people to run the club, but I fear his ego prevents that from ever being a reality.

There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING conjectural about the dossier of information I have. It is, however, confidential. That is an entirely different concept, and the information merely highlights crass incompetence and self indulgence which is in any event becoming daily more obvious to those who want to see the truth.
mortonjag 2008-10-04 18:58:42
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Oct 4 2008, 06:49 PM) [snapback]522414[/snapback]
I've already said today that Rae needs better advice in appointing a new manager. He probably needs to take a step back from the whole process and find some football-minded Morton men to help. Our last 3 appointments have been made by understandable reasons but ultimately were wrong appointements:

Cowboy had a good record at QP and a good record at Dundee. He had shown he knew how to get a team promoted. But in the end he failed to control the team he had brought together.

McInally was brought in because the the old-fashioned manager didn't succeed. Fresh ideas and enthusiasm got McInally the job, but there wasn't enough tactical knowledge or motivation to do the job, and he failed.

Rae believed Irons was the trainer behind Gretna's rise. Irons perhaps was just that, and is perhaps an excellent coach, but a manager he is not.

Rae has made bad decisions for understandable reasons. And now the time has come for him to take a real step back from this process.

Correct-because he will never appoint anyone over whom he cannot maintain full control.

SpoonTon, the man is 77 years of age.


HE CANNOT CHANGE-that is why he has to give way-take a back seat graciously-let Alistair Donald at least MAKE the next lot of appointments and weed out the crap from Cappielow, even if he doesn't want to spend right now.

Rae said he's here in an 'advisory capacity'.

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I reckon AD will make his move soon! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-04 20:29:34
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Oct 4 2008, 07:37 PM) [snapback]522480[/snapback]
MJ, I'm as concerned about our current plight just as much as you are. I have asked for facts, but you say you can't provide that at the moment.
You seem an honourable man, so I won't say I disbelieve you. But you are not going to convince me and perhaps more than a few others by trying to prove your point by having continuous personal attacks on Dougie Rae.
You could prove to me tomorrow that all you say is true and I still would not approve of the way you are going about things.
If you have concerns then lets go about things in an adult way instead of petty personal attacks.

What a beautiful concept. I agree that that is the ideal, but we are attempting to cope with a man who hasn't even a basic grasp of 'listening', and who appears never to have understood the meaning of 'respect'.

The only thing which will ever 'sting' Mr Rae is the realisation, despite all his bluster and talking down of legitimate comment, his refusal to answer pertinent questions, and despite reassurances to the contrary by his carefully selected entourage of satellites and 'spies', several of whom masquerade here as bona fide posters, that he has lost popularity and credibility.

Personal attacks-yes-and thoroughly deserved. Petty-not when that man's utterly self obsessed mismanagement is ruining our club Spurtle.

I am, however, willing to listen to any suggestions you have as to a better way to finally force him to open his eyes.
mortonjag 2008-10-04 20:36:54
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Oct 4 2008, 08:23 PM) [snapback]522505[/snapback]
Good posts.

It'd wouldn't get the support of the majority of fans and indeed it'd probably only get the support of about 20 - 30.

It's ok typing stuff like this from behind a keyboard but folk will find excuses nearer the time not to join in.
Remember this Morton support isn't the united support we had 6 or 7 years ago.

Correct Willy Man. Apathy reigns. Until the fans are totally united against the cancerous growth its effects will still ravage the body of the club we love.
mortonjag 2008-10-04 20:44:59 C'mon folks-the answer is staring us in the face. F*ck figureheads! Rae's been the real manager all along and wasting good money on inexperienced front men.

Two or three weeks of doing the jog on his lonesome would soon sort the meddlesome old fud out. With nobody else to blame, the fans would turn on him lock stock and barrel. It's no less than he deserves. He is the problem-simple.

Why so many still seem so blind is a total mystery to me.

mortonjag 2008-10-04 20:52:21
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Oct 4 2008, 08:34 PM) [snapback]522514[/snapback]
Why are personal attacks, in this instance, 'thoroughly deserved'?

Because one PERSON is ultimately to blame for the mess we're in yet that blame is variably diverted on to managers, the fans, and the players.

When our club is being destroyed-AS IT IS- I believe that any true fan wants to attack the destroyer.

Given that this is the third time today that you have questioned my RIGHT to attack Rae, I'm beginning to sense from you-and not for the first time- a personal attack BECAUSE I criticise him.

I presume you are satisfied with his stewardship. blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-04 20:55:51 All I can say is 'Hurry back guys'. Some fools on here still want to give the arch enemy of progress an easy ride.

I've a funny feeling that when you lot return, the s*** will really hit the fan! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-04 21:03:50
QUOTE(grnklad2006ton @ Oct 4 2008, 06:46 PM) [snapback]522409[/snapback]
If you fellow fans think that sacking Davie Irons is the answer to this situation then you are very much in for a shock, that goes for you too MR RAE. He is quick enough to sack any manager that doesn’t get results but why is this? I have seen what irons can do with the correct backing of a chairman when he took Gretna to the SPL. A chairman must invest heavily in his team to get something back and that’s something he needs to take a look at before he starts sacking people. Alex Ferguson couldn’t even take this pool of players forward if he was under RAE. You need quality players and a hefty some of money to invest in. Our position in the league will not tell lies to us about where Rae is taking our club. Before anyone starts shouting for Iron’s head take a long hard look at Mr Rae.

We wanted McInally sacked and thought a new boss was the key, now we have irons we are looking for someone to blame and its all to easy to blame Irons. Hope you read this board RAE, your not a bad guy in person but you have taken this club as far as you will ever.

Ask your self this folks before you want people to lose there job.

1. Is it Irons fault our strikers are all rank rotten ?
2. Is it Irons fault his chairman does not give him funds to make a real challenge
3. Is Irons on the park and losing us games personally ? Or is it the 11 boys he puts on the park????
4. What happened the last time Irons was backed by a chairman, Gretna?
5. Why does no player that’s half decent never want to come to cappielow? Suppose you blame Irons

BRING A FRIEND MR RAE, Don’t ever insult us morton fan’s like that again with you stupid suggestion’s about our support fading away to nothing. Nearly 5 hours to Dingwall to see that and you ask us to bring a friend. Take a long hard look at why the numbers a fading, your time is up


I don't agree with everything you say but you are correct in principle.

THE BUCK STOPS FAIRLY AND SQUARELY AT RAE

He was willing to accept all the Kudos when we 'won' promotion by losing at Kircaldy. He was quick to join DI on the pitch at Firhill only six short months ago.

So-Mr Rae-WELL done-we all know you mastermind everything. You are now the mastermind of abysmal failure. It IS time to go.
mortonjag 2008-10-05 06:44:43
QUOTE(Malt @ Oct 4 2008, 04:51 PM) [snapback]522149[/snapback]
The problem is at the top. Has been for many a time. Doesn;t matter who the manager is. As long as it is the Dougie Rae show we aint going anywhere!"



QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Oct 4 2008, 04:58 PM) [snapback]522172[/snapback]
That said though, sacking Irons would surely leave Mr Rae's position untenable, it would be te final admission that he has been an abject failure.

Or his last hope of deflecting the blame-Irons will be off-guaranteed.

QUOTE(Ghost @ Oct 4 2008, 04:59 PM) [snapback]522179[/snapback]
The only way that the old geezer will leave is when we all stand our ground as fans

Or when AD doubles his previous offer?

QUOTE(Muz @ Oct 4 2008, 05:05 PM) [snapback]522200[/snapback]
I cant wait to see what happens on Monday with Rae- has the man the audacity to ignore the fans now? Probably yes.

Hmm-probably agree with you! dry.gif

QUOTE(The Naitch @ Oct 4 2008, 05:44 PM) [snapback]522303[/snapback]
Cheap jibes? Give me a break.

What we need is a complete clear out where DDFR is not involved with the club and get someone else in who will hire a manager who can do their job with little/no interference.

NO you don't deserve a break on that one. Rae's Q & A's are a bloody farce. Don't tell me what we 'need' when I've asked how to deal with the current situation. We can all dream of ideals, but so long as Raes big neb has to be in the door, the best we can hope for is at least SOME level of effective delegation! ph34r.gif

QUOTE(vicmaramyton @ Oct 4 2008, 10:13 PM) [snapback]522605[/snapback]
see you .....you t***.....where were you when morton nearly went to the wall????? EXACTLLY so shut the f**k up. It's so easy to throw stones (or bits of jealous vile,like you)at a man who put his money where his mouth was.....YOU couldn,t save us when we needed it so why do you think we either NEED or WANT your "imput"on morton things now?Give the man a break........david

David RAE? wacko.gif

QUOTE(9 Strathblane Crescent @ Oct 4 2008, 11:25 PM) [snapback]522642[/snapback]
So you don't like him then. Your a headbanger!!!

No I don't like him and I even more dislike sycophantic weasels like yourself Mr M. You had a bloody field day two or three years ago when the Jag took constant abuse from 90% for daring to criticise your f*ckin' pin up boy. He sure deserves a bloody gold star, now. He must be SOOOOO proud of his faithful pond life.

As for me being a 'head banger'-perhaps Mr. M.-but even a bloody head banger can see right through Rae except for that dense round opacity occupying his terminal colon. 'KEEK' rip.gif

QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Oct 5 2008, 12:38 AM) [snapback]522696[/snapback]
Can't remember the name of the guy but there's a biographer of George Bush who said that there are two common misconceptions about him; he's stupid but a nice guy. The writer says he's neither. I think the same may be said about our leader.

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mortonjag 2008-10-05 06:52:54
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 5 2008, 05:58 AM) [snapback]522804[/snapback]
Good morning MJ,

Has a good night's sleep helped you to feel any better about this fiasco of a season ?

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QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 5 2008, 06:36 AM) [snapback]522806[/snapback]
MJ can't be happy.

He was on here at 6 am and hasn't made a single post.

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Good morning Newt.

Today's weather forecast is excellent-a pleasant change after a very unpredictable and somewhat miserable summer.

I doubt if it's possible to feel 'better' about 'Fiasco at Fortress Cappielow'.

I'm constantly sickened by the blinkered and sycophantic creeps who continue to give Rae credibility.

I just feel like spilling the beans on everything. That would soon put the 'nice man' story to bed! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-05 07:01:36
QUOTE(Cawston @ Oct 4 2008, 10:04 PM) [snapback]522598[/snapback]
This is very sad, even by your low standards.

I have no problem with the content of the letter, what I don't get is why you're denying you wrote the letter? At least Irnbru had a set of nuts. Name and address supplied laugh.gif

Personal attacks like that do no credit to your intelligence Cawstic. You appear to be another sicko who gets a kick from stalking the Jag.

Mortonjag knows EXACTLY what he's doing-- thank you very much. If Mortonjag had written that letter it would have been signed by Mortonjag. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-05 07:09:50
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 5 2008, 06:57 AM) [snapback]522809[/snapback]
Well, MJ, your credibility on here seems to climbing the charts with a bullet.

However, as you and I have posted SO OFTEN ... none are so blind, etc.

MJ, you could post most of what you know, Sugar Rae's minions would still support him.

Sad, but true, IMHO.

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Indeed Sir-you are a wise man. Hitler's weasel sycophants were still praising him to the hilt for some time after the power crazed eejit had put a bullet through his head!


It's Sunday, Newt-the day of prayer and supplication! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-05 07:16:10
QUOTE(Embraton @ Oct 4 2008, 06:58 PM) [snapback]522429[/snapback]
Talk of inward investment (letter to Telegraph and elsewhere) and some alternative sugar daddy is pie-in-the-sky unless some of George Bush's $700Bn comes our way. Poor performance is not helping our gate but the financial squeeze is forcing a drop in gates round the country. Any investor, at the levels we would need for a dramatic change to the team and management structure, has to look at the return and affordability of his or her investment. We are unlikely to get anyone with the lifetime passion that DDFR demonstrates. So let's not kid ourselves that there's likely to be a massive rush to invest in the club. Like it or not we need to be thankful that we have our current sugar daddy. If you don't like that but are passionate about the club then I'm afraid you'll just have to live with it and get behind the club as best you can.

Every time I hear words like 'devotion', and 'passion' attributed to that self obsessed, arrogant, dismissive, niggardly, ego polishing, qauasi literate old fud, I think even LESS of the author than I do of his subject. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-05 07:32:39
QUOTE(Marshall_2oo7 @ Oct 4 2008, 05:47 PM) [snapback]522311[/snapback]
Exactly, terrible situation, "play bad for long enough and you can have two games win bonus for one match".

Wouldn't even surprise me that Rae offered that, this is a football club Rae not the sweetie factory GTF.

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QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Oct 4 2008, 07:10 PM) [snapback]522449[/snapback]
Bob I have to agree it maybe the only way to get a crowd for the Dundee game by giving something back to the fans who have suffered . Although I doubt it are the ARTC still not awaiting their 100 quid from the Annan cup game .

Just one of the 'nice man's nice legacies Chris. I'm sure somebody with genuine passion-John Boag for example, would turn over in his grave if he knew half of what's been going on as a result of Rae's 'devotion'. dry.gif

QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Oct 4 2008, 07:36 PM) [snapback]522478[/snapback]
Rumour now becomes fact - ridiculous. mad.gif

I take it your master personally denied it to you, Anus. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-05 07:37:08
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Oct 4 2008, 05:48 PM) [snapback]522316[/snapback]
Personally, I think you'll 'break' before my pal Douglas does.

....which I find extremely encouraging! smile.gif

QUOTE(capello @ Oct 4 2008, 05:55 PM) [snapback]522335[/snapback]
I Have said this for a while now,how many more managers do we go through before Dougie stands up and takes the blame for his own mistakes,I bet his sweetie business is not run as bad as our club?.
Bottom line is we should be doing better with the squad we have ,ffs even the likes of clyde and airdrie are better than us ,for me the only denominator is dougie rae,he did save the club but at this rate he may well be killing it as well,as for AD he really needs to come out and state any intent he has, as the advisory capacity he claims to be doing is clearly not working,the whole infrastructure of the club is in a total mess from the top down,we deserve better than this pish!
Sort it out now or get someone who at least knows how to run a football club!!!

Indeed!
mortonjag 2008-10-05 07:44:25


QUOTE(9 Strathblane Crescent @ Oct 5 2008, 12:05 AM) [snapback]522668[/snapback]
Hard to disagree, but before we dump him can we find a suitable successor.

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= but I disagree anyway! rip.gif eek.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-05 07:52:04
QUOTE(9 Strathblane Crescent @ Oct 5 2008, 12:10 AM) [snapback]522670[/snapback]
Don't tell me you never went to Dingwall. ohmy.gif

Do I sense an attempt to engage me in civilised conversation?

From YOU! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

No my friend, my brother and I took a look at the weather yesterday morning, and decided against-a very inspired decision as it transpired.

We WILL be at Dingwall a week today. Under the interim management, I fully expect us to progress to the Alba Cup Final.
mortonjag 2008-10-05 08:16:44
QUOTE(LargsTON @ Oct 4 2008, 04:51 PM) [snapback]522146[/snapback]
He's only the tip of the iceberg. The real problem's Rae. Open your eyes, man! dry.gif

It's SO easy to blame Irons, and for sure he must go. I see him a wee bit like the captain of a ship on which everybody speaks a totally different language, there are three or four 'cliques' all vying for power, and the ship owner keeps telegraphing a change of course when it's too late. Maybe it was your iceberg comment!!!

QUOTE(stuart @ Oct 4 2008, 05:22 PM) [snapback]522235[/snapback]
I would agree with those sentiments. He has done a massive amount for our club but it seems that we have peaked under his leadership and are on the way back down. Whether his son takes over or someone totally new comes in I would probably like Mr Rae to step aside now. The last thing I want is for him to turn into some sort of hate figure, Rae should be remembered as a positive influence on Morton's history but, the way things are going, a lot of people's perceptions of him are going to be tainted.

The tragedy for Mr Rae (I personally don't give a f*ck for him and make no secret of it) is that those words Stuart, have a prophetic ring to them. If he passes over power NOW-either by true delegation, or by becoming receptive to AD, he still has time to retain credibility. Human nature is bizarre at times -folk can be extremely forgiving but there is ALWAYS the point of no return. For Rae that is VERY close IMO.

QUOTE(Ghost @ Oct 4 2008, 05:48 PM) [snapback]522314[/snapback]
Why, because players ran to the Chairman when things didnt go their way, seems to me the same thing is happening again. I'd love to go one on one with any of them who shirk a game, and their are quite a few of them

RUN??? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-05 08:41:13
QUOTE(suda @ Oct 4 2008, 09:09 PM) [snapback]522547[/snapback]
It was only a matter of time before your concerted campaign started to look like a well thought out premonition, if there's one thing that's inevitable in football is that somebody's time is up. We were f***ed when he took over and since then we've climbed two leagues, we have progressed year on year sometimes not as quickly as some would of liked but that's life - it's not easy deal with it. You have never given the man even so much as a shred of acknowlegement for that instead you've consistently chipped away at every single thing he has done. It gives the impression of a jealous small man with a chip on his shoulder and too much time on your hands it's like he shat in your shoes. I'm not a sycophant or an insider all I can say is that I'm a fan with the best interests of the club at heart so don't even go down that route as I know you are an eloquent and intelligent master debater. Instead why don't you suggest how to improve our situation? Even better why don't you put up some of your brilliant family's vast wealth and buy the guy out. If the objective now is to replace the chairman then how do you go about it as this board has as much credibilty as a toilet wall, your wasting your time writing on here.

Reading your comment, I see where the 'toilet wall' comment comes from! laugh.gif

I have every right to criticise.

I am not obliged to be grateful.

I am under NO obligation of any kind whatsoever to offer to you ('a fan with the best interests of the club at heart'-PRESUMABLY UNLIKE ME dry.gif ) suggestions on how to improve matters, EVEN though I've regularly done so.

Then PSEUDO- we come to the true thrust of your post-highlighted in vibrant fucshia, and that is where your credibility Sir goes right down the lavvy pan.

The foregoing has been a polite way of saying what I originally intended, namely

AWAY AND F*CK YOURSELF
mortonjag 2008-10-05 08:50:58
QUOTE(suda @ Oct 4 2008, 10:22 PM) [snapback]522609[/snapback]
Yawn!!! Do we really need to devote anymore space to the individual involved here? I can see several pages developing talking about past incidents how they were right/wrong/pissed/true fans/decent guys at heart blah blah blah.

More PSEUDO intelligent pish!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Are you another arrogant fud like me?

It's a bloody fans' forum FFS-not a debate at the Royal Society of f*ckin' Philosophers.

NOTHING ELSE HAPPENED at bloody Dingwall-hadn't you noticed! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

At least this has got folk talking.
mortonjag 2008-10-05 08:54:53
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Oct 5 2008, 08:44 AM) [snapback]522824[/snapback]
Your mutual masturbation session this early on a Sunday is putting me off my slice and tattie scone roll. Please desist.

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Do you envisage an official valedictory service at Cappielow today with prayers for the outgoing management team from Rev Dave?
mortonjag 2008-10-05 09:05:03
QUOTE(TaunTon @ Oct 5 2008, 08:41 AM) [snapback]522823[/snapback]
Who wrote the letter is of no consequence. The fact that letters are being written, Ton fans views are getting air play on the radio etc is all that matters. Q&A sessions organised and managed by the club will elicit nothing from the chairman. Publically questioning his actions in the media will at the very least make things less comfortable for him as his halo begins to look a bit grubby.

Indeed-yesterday was a bad day all round for the club, with Allan Reid sounding off in the Sun-blaming DI for 'shafting him', 'Derek from Paisley' calling our Chairman in question-very articulately too- on Traynor's show, and the Ton consolidating its position as 'The only club in Scotland who have failed to win a single league match'.

Two letters published in Friday's Tilly have to be significant. It's utterly INCONCEIVABLE that they are the first to arrive in the 'Inverclyde Postbox', and their publication suggests a change of position by some in the Editorial department of the Tilly. Rae will NOT like this. His undoubted response will be extremely interesting.

Maybe he'll surprise us all by issuing an open and honest admission that he's totally lost the plot.
mortonjag 2008-10-05 13:15:46
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Oct 5 2008, 11:17 AM) [snapback]522875[/snapback]
I thought Rae had already ran out of all credibility. Make your mind up please. smile.gif

He never HAD any credibility with me, you silly boy.Grow up and pay attention to your grammar and syntax!
mortonjag 2008-10-05 13:34:12
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Oct 5 2008, 09:23 AM) [snapback]522834[/snapback]
We need clarity, we need a public statement, and we need to know what our future holds. The club is dying a slow death, crowds are plummeting, fans disinterested and we are now becoming a laughing stock in many eyes.

EXACTLY!


QUOTE(Last Boat Home @ Oct 5 2008, 10:11 AM) [snapback]522854[/snapback]
There’s not a club in the world that’s not for sale if the right amount of money is waved in the face of the owners

laugh.gif Except where ego means far more than lolly!

QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Oct 5 2008, 10:24 AM) [snapback]522859[/snapback]
I do not know why but DDF choose not to hear what was on offer. Now to me that is just bloody mindedness and shows the contempt he can have for others, in DDF's eyes there is no one who could do as good a job as himself.

Any financial offer would presumably still have to see Rae incorporated somewhere in the executive. THAT'S THE PROBLEM for AD in my view.

QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Oct 5 2008, 10:50 AM) [snapback]522867[/snapback]
I would call upon all trust members to ask their board representative to ask serious questions as to what is going on. As the second biggest shareholder, they have a vested interest in how the club is run. I doubt though the trust will bother and will continue to be as ineffective as they have been so far.

The Trust is an utter waste of space in terms of acting in any financial watchdog capacity. That is a FACT. Questions asked have been fielded, while Jim McColl rubs shoulders with AD at Cappielow. That is plainly a FARCE.

The Trust has recently adopted the habit of playing 'hide and seek' on this forum. Ask a legitimate question, and Bryan pops up to say 'I'll get the answer'. He then scurries off to the high heid yins in the Bunker, and about two months later a carefully constructed answer is returned which says sweet f*ck all. The Trust committee should be ashamed of their comfort zone exclusivity and a seige mentality parallelled only by Raemanov himself.
mortonjag 2008-10-05 13:41:07
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Oct 5 2008, 12:01 PM) [snapback]522901[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif where's that pot kettle black thing when you need it

Probably up your arse with your scrapings of grey matter.
mortonjag 2008-10-05 13:43:43
QUOTE(dunning1874 @ Oct 5 2008, 01:31 PM) [snapback]522987[/snapback]
I well aware that many others could have produced that letter and hold that opinion, but there was something about it, the tone perhaps, that made me think it was you. Anyway, TaunTon's talking sense here:
Maybe it'll make Rae wake up and realising what he's doing. I'm not getting my hopes up.

More probable is the fact that the general standard of prose on this massage board is an indictment of Scottish Education.
mortonjag 2008-10-05 13:51:33
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Oct 5 2008, 11:15 AM) [snapback]522874[/snapback]
Why do you persist on making things personal on here when very few others are? It deflects from your argument, and quite frankly you're better than that.

How many Q&A's have you been to do decide that they're a farce, by the way? tongue.gif

Anyway....your last point there does raise a legitimate question. How long does Rae have before his 'big neb' is out the door?

For as long as posters like yourself continue to instigate the personal attacks my dear. I'd have thought that would be obvious to a man of your massive intellect. blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-05 13:58:31 I reckon Rae will be praying that he resigns. Failing that Rae will sack him to save face. It's just a matter of time. If he's in charge at Dingwall a week today I'll be very surprised.
mortonjag 2008-10-05 14:02:01
QUOTE(9 Strathblane Crescent @ Oct 5 2008, 01:55 PM) [snapback]523014[/snapback]
So the Morton player are unhappy. Well I have some startling news for them. mad.gif

You're supposed to be dead. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-05 14:04:34
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Oct 5 2008, 12:14 PM) [snapback]522916[/snapback]
So much for going up and staying the night before the match. Having the pre-match meal at the normal time.

More like the last supper mad.gif

Hope somebody bought Judas's carry oot.
mortonjag 2008-10-05 14:08:47
QUOTE(9 Strathblane Crescent @ Oct 5 2008, 02:02 PM) [snapback]523027[/snapback]
Couldn't agree more, they should get off their comfortable arses, rally the fans to make a bid for the club and oust Douglas Rae.
If, as MJ says, they did get a carefully constructed answer to their questions, they should tell AD that his answer is s***e and that they want a different one. And if he refuses to give them one they like well they should, they should, they should, they should, what should they do MJ?

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The Trust is an utter waste of space in terms of acting in any financial watchdog capacity. That is a FACT.

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mortonjag 2008-10-05 14:16:51
QUOTE(leyTON @ Oct 4 2008, 05:59 PM) [snapback]522341[/snapback]
What a load of s***e.
Theres a difference between deciding its not woth the money and a staged protest.
I disagree with the chairman but think some people have a millitant anti chairman sentiment left over from *careful, or I'll close down the Internet*. He may be a dick, but we still exist dont we?

On the contrary leyTON, I believe Rae has had more than a superabundance of goodwill over his last seven years of treating less wealthy fellow fans like servile sh*t.

What sticks out a mile for me is a 'fear of the bogeyman' complex-something on which Rae has, till now at least, thrived.

I don't think Douglas Rae is a 'dick', though there is little doubt in my mind that in terms of Greenock Morton, the passe old fud's heid appears to be wedged up his erse, and he's lost all perspective if indeed he ever had any.
mortonjag 2008-10-05 14:21:20
QUOTE(9 Strathblane Crescent @ Oct 5 2008, 01:52 PM) [snapback]523012[/snapback]
Ah right, So that clears it all up then. You are Mentaljag after all. dry.gif

I beg your pardon-if I'm Mentaljag, you're Mick the Miller.


Only one person is entitled to call me Mentaljag, and he's somebody I respect.
mortonjag 2008-10-05 14:29:14
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Oct 5 2008, 11:36 AM) [snapback]522887[/snapback]
If I owned a business and only employed Donkeys my business would fail miserably. If I then told those Donkeys how to do their job without myself having ANY experience of the task at hand do you think they would perform any better?

Rae's about to sack everybody and employ donkeys? I guess it is a slight improvement right enough.

QUOTE(port-ton @ Oct 5 2008, 12:51 PM) [snapback]522947[/snapback]
Make no mistake about it, Morton can survive without Douglas Rae's and his money and will do so in the future, but it can't survive without Morton fans and their money.

.....Rae only owns 3/4 of the Club in any case!

QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Oct 5 2008, 02:18 PM) [snapback]523036[/snapback]
Bump. No reply, MJ.

Have I missed something GG.

Alistair Donald wants the club-is that what I was to say? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-05 14:31:56
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Oct 5 2008, 01:33 PM) [snapback]522990[/snapback]
When all else fails, resort to personal attacks. Have a look at yourself. rolleyes.gif

It's a gloriously sunny day in Glasgow today so I'm off out to enjoy it while it lasts, I politely suggest that you follow suit. Have a nice day. smile.gif

Baw bag! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-05 14:34:59
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 5 2008, 02:23 PM) [snapback]523040[/snapback]
Everyone else has to call you Douglas. sleep.gif

Don't be silly SPARROT-Mortonjag has many names. Mentaljag is a term coined by a respectable fellow poster. I'd hate any plagiarism on this forum. tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-05 14:36:41
QUOTE(9 Strathblane Crescent @ Oct 5 2008, 01:43 PM) [snapback]522998[/snapback]
So, Is it safe to say you don't like him? dry.gif


Entirely.
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Oct 5 2008, 02:27 PM) [snapback]523043[/snapback]
aaww did that biggy doccy lad hit a bit of a raw nerve there laugh.gif

Not in the slightest. It was a serious answer.
mortonjag 2008-10-05 14:47:01
QUOTE(SpoonTon @ Oct 5 2008, 02:34 PM) [snapback]523048[/snapback]
It's not illegal for me to say that because of McGraw's age and time out of the game then it would be the wrong choice for the next Morton manager. If you can name me another manager's McGraw's age, and on top of that one which has been out of the game for as long to come back and be successful, then I'd be very surprised.

But thanks for dismissing my point on account of my age rather than my argument rolleyes.gif

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If we did get McGraw back he'd stand no nonsense from the old fud and might well beat him about the head with one of his sticks. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-05 14:51:26
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Oct 5 2008, 02:35 PM) [snapback]523050[/snapback]
no, you still havn't provided an alternative to the rae's, because there isnt one.

I regard Alistair Donald as an alternative.

QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Oct 5 2008, 02:36 PM) [snapback]523053[/snapback]
I've seen bugger all input from Donald. What if he doesn't want to buy Morton and Rae and his money or his company are no longer there to cover the losses? Debt? Administration?

Without certainty of a better investor we currently have no alternative, unless I've missed something and you can enlighten me.


Another example of total illogicality. WE DO NOT NEED TO KNOW of an alternative for that alternative to exist.
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 5 2008, 02:40 PM) [snapback]523058[/snapback]
Can someone enlighten me as to why Douglas Rae/Golden Casket breaking ties with the club would result in administration, regardless, of any "buyer"? Morton are a profitable prospect if run in the right hands, without the need for outside investment.
Another example of Rae's rule by fear.

I couldn't agree more. I've said several times that on the strength of GC's collateral and with proper delegation from day one, we could be a profitable SPL club NOW.
mortonjag 2008-10-05 14:57:29
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Oct 5 2008, 02:32 PM) [snapback]523047[/snapback]
there is no bottom to your hate of dougie is there ? why bring up John Boag and how the f*** would you know if he was turning in his grave. You are one sick puppy and that is a step too far, arsehole.

That is a step too far?

Perhaps you'd care to explain that comment.

Who is this bloody 'dougie' anyway. Please don't confuse me with affectionate terms for a man who does not seemingly know the meaning of the word 'respect'.

You can think of that in terms of a man like John Boag if you choose-a man who always had my respect.

Several others know exactly where I'm coming from, and if you do too, your defence of your 'dougie' is a bloody disgrace. ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-05 14:59:28
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Oct 5 2008, 02:55 PM) [snapback]523070[/snapback]
If it exists then WHAT IS IT and HOW DO WE USE IT?

That's a question I've been asking too.
mortonjag 2008-10-05 16:18:12
QUOTE(bigdoc1874 @ Oct 5 2008, 03:31 PM) [snapback]523103[/snapback]
who is defending dougie idiot ? your personal attacks are getting more frequent, especially when you are cornered with the question of "what is the alternative?" . There is no answer to that one in your wee secret dossier that you keep is there. You are nothing more than a bitter twisted old man with too much time on your hands. Your main goal in life is to bring down dougie rae, why ? the politics of envy i reckon. As for John Boag, he was a rangers man through and through, the only link he had with morton is as a player, not a fan, but dont let that get in the way of your pointless little arguments. You have been asked on more than one occasion to bring something constructive to the table, but as always you have nothing to back your pathetic ramblings. So keep going, fill your boots with meaningless posts while the rest of us bring change with a positive attitude while you stew in your personal attacks from behind your keyboard. And as i have stated before i am no fan of dougie but if you think i am then thats cool with me, fud.

Not quite wishing me a slow and painful death!

So 'the rest of you are bringing change with your positive attitude'! The evidence of that is overwhelming. laugh.gif Do you have a list of your fellow dumbos?

The truth is Doc that you're not particularly bright. You DO strongly dislike legitimate criticism of Mr Rae.

I'm sure other posters will be asking why that is.
mortonjag 2008-10-05 16:19:56
QUOTE(Bryan @ Oct 5 2008, 03:27 PM) [snapback]523101[/snapback]
feel free to contact us at info@gmst.org.uk for any questions....

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mortonjag 2008-10-05 16:21:47
QUOTE(nach0king @ Oct 5 2008, 04:13 PM) [snapback]523110[/snapback]
I reckon it's going to be Derek Collins, and I am absolutely gutted at the prospect.

Is that just a suspicion?

It makes sense only in money terms and would be extremely short sighted IMO.
mortonjag 2008-10-05 16:27:29
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 5 2008, 09:15 AM) [snapback]522831[/snapback]
I don't wish to speak ill of a man of the cloth.

However, Reverend Dave hasn't really had a flash start to the season.

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Romans 8:31


What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?


Do you think Rev Dave's an impostor Newt? mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-05 16:33:25
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 4 2008, 03:24 PM) [snapback]521938[/snapback]
No - it isn't ironic as you already commented on it. rolleyes.gif
I think you'll find it is most ironic coming from a poster who apears to swallow the Daily Mail for brunch and then proceed to regurgitate it over and over and over again.
How can I flog a dead horse when I make one post on that particular topic?
Your conceit is matched only by your inaccuracies.

You've ridden your hobby horse to death on your anti birching stance in the past. Your pronouncements on your 'knife crime rife scheme' have been repeatedly pointless, coming as they do from a mere child with no real life experience.

In reality SPARROT, Mortonjag is a relatively humble man-perhaps that's true of yourself too! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-05 16:40:33
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 5 2008, 03:57 PM) [snapback]523108[/snapback]
what was the name of that university again ?

apocAlypse, mate.

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apokochips?
mortonjag 2008-10-05 16:46:57
QUOTE(nach0king @ Oct 5 2008, 04:25 PM) [snapback]523114[/snapback]
It's just a suspicion.

I agree entirely, but I think the decision will be made rashly and with money in mind.

DDF does not like sacking managers, I think that's a given. When he does it's normally an emotional affair. Irons will go not because he deems the results unacceptable but because the fans' pressure will be too much. Paying off two members of staff whom he trusts will be seen as too much. So, out goes one, in comes the other - a "real Morton legend."

As I say, these are just suspicions. None of it is set in stone, to my knowledge at least.

It may well happen. I suppose it's even conceivable that DC could succeed where DI has failed.

I can't see that. A new broom is clearly required. If only Mr Rae would for the first time accept a truly experienced manager and allow him freedom to manage, this season is still salvagable. I'm pretty fed up with the constant put downs of our players' ability, though their commitment at present is questionable. A couple of good emergency loan signings, combined with true desire, and we could soon be climbing the league.
mortonjag 2008-10-05 16:50:50
QUOTE(9 Strathblane Crescent @ Oct 5 2008, 04:35 PM) [snapback]523117[/snapback]
Totally agree, so what's the answer to this particular problem?

Specifically which problem?

I understand that AD has already approached Mr Rae and that they were unable to come to an agreement. I believe AD has backed off and is presumably waiting in the wings. Is that contrary to your intelligence?
mortonjag 2008-10-05 17:01:07
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Oct 5 2008, 03:03 PM) [snapback]523079[/snapback]
Do you then agree that realistically Rae should stay until this alternative reveals itself? That may not be this year, or next year. I've said before that Rae's leadership of the club is very flawed but there simply can't be a demonstration to force him out until he can be replaced with somone better at his job.

I have said for several years that as Rae CANNOT step aside totally, he would gain much credibility by becoming Honorary Chairman, with TRUE delegation to a salaried 'main man', who, for want of a better term I've described as a 'Director of Football'.

As and when AD takes over, that-I'd assume, is EXACTLY what will happen.
mortonjag 2008-10-05 17:13:45
QUOTE(9 Strathblane Crescent @ Oct 5 2008, 05:01 PM) [snapback]523133[/snapback]
You understand!!! Sorry, you don't understand that's the problem. You think you know more than you actually do.
If you have evidence to the contrary let's hear it. Everytime your questioned about your sources or your solutions you do nothing but slag off whomever is asking the question. You use your supposed superior intelligence (not my opinion)
to take them to task for daring to question your wisdom. It's a trend that goes through all your posts.

And you talk about Douglas Rae's arrogance. Pot and kettle Doc, pot and kettle. Both you and Rae are tarred with the same arrogant brush.

I'm sorry Peter-may I call you Peter-Paul if you prefer-I thought you had sincerely asked me that question.

Not like old Jaggy boy to fall into another jealous weasel trap! unsure.gif

I don't 'think I know more than I do'. On the contrary I'm extremely careful always to qualify my statements on the basis that they are 'from information received'.

What you and the other not very bright 'smartass' weasels singularly fail to appreciate is that every time you make a Jag attack like that, twenty or thirty of my associates are laughing up their sleeves, as yet another foolish sprat dangles from the Jag's big rod. smile.gif



mortonjag 2008-10-05 17:35:27
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Oct 5 2008, 05:19 PM) [snapback]523140[/snapback]
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Were you in Rouken Glen Park earlier?
mortonjag 2008-10-05 17:40:33
QUOTE(The Hustler @ Oct 5 2008, 05:32 PM) [snapback]523144[/snapback]
Quite frankly I think this thread is somewhat pointless. I believe if there was someone out there with the finances to purchase Morton at an acceptable price to Rae and who could demonstrate that he had Mortons interests at heart then Rae would sell. No doubt. However I dont think he would sell if he thought it was to a *careful, or I'll close down the Internet* clone. Maybe Donald is a prospective buyer but if so he seems to be taking his time.
Irons has been a truly disastrous appointment and Rae is responsible for that but until someone comes along with the dough to take over from Rae then we are stuck with him. Simple as that.

Why do you believe that?

'As long as there is breath in my body, Greenock Morton is not for sale'

'I have rejected several 'million pound' offers for the club'.

AD is undoubtedly taking his time. Why should he hurry when the asking price is dropping by the week?
mortonjag 2008-10-05 17:42:08
QUOTE(axeman @ Oct 5 2008, 05:38 PM) [snapback]523146[/snapback]
Well that was how it was reported at the time, check with the Tele if you don't believe me.

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mortonjag 2008-10-05 17:44:50
QUOTE(forza ton @ Oct 5 2008, 05:09 PM) [snapback]523137[/snapback]
one good thing about today was the hospice getting the £1 entry fee to the docks. must have made a fortune smile.gif

the boat is pish though. just looks like a big calmac boat

Are they still sponsoring a ferry good side?
mortonjag 2008-10-05 17:48:30
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Oct 5 2008, 05:47 PM) [snapback]523153[/snapback]
A nice touch by the Gourock MSC for their patrons . Would be a nice gesture for the club to also do something.

Were you envisaging anything in particular?
mortonjag 2008-10-05 18:00:36
QUOTE(port-ton @ Oct 5 2008, 05:50 PM) [snapback]523158[/snapback]
He might be a joke of a manager, but he is not a joke of a man.

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mortonjag 2008-10-05 18:02:23
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Oct 5 2008, 05:53 PM) [snapback]523162[/snapback]
I'm afraid not, old chap. Had to settle for Tollcross Park this afternoon. smile.gif

Didn't realise you were an Eastender!

There used to be a nursing home inside that park BTW!
mortonjag 2008-10-05 18:06:40
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Oct 5 2008, 06:04 PM) [snapback]523168[/snapback]
me and the boy will be there, brilliant gesture but it should be the club putting on free busses not a travel club, morton should take a leaf out of GMSTC book.

If I dare to comment I shall be attacked from all sides!

Oh-who gives a f*ck.

Rae is as tight as a badger's arse. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-05 18:26:09
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 5 2008, 06:20 PM) [snapback]523186[/snapback]
It's the end of the world man! This is no time for spelling lessons!!!!
(OK I was in Mr_thax's house and his mozilla doesn't have the spell check add-on that mines does wink.gif)

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mortonjag 2008-10-05 18:27:49
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Oct 5 2008, 06:23 PM) [snapback]523188[/snapback]
I think this finally proves the point of it doesn't matter a jot of whether a manager is animated at the side of the park or if he stands against a wall with his arms folded.

Bring back Hal Stewart.
mortonjag 2008-10-05 18:40:50
QUOTE(AJCTON @ Oct 5 2008, 06:32 PM) [snapback]523196[/snapback]
sorry to break this to you mj but hal is dead, sorry you hadn't heard wink.gif

I want Hal! crying.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-05 18:44:18
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 5 2008, 06:40 PM) [snapback]523198[/snapback]
I only get the red line for spelling issues.

I lack the green line for grammar issues.

Shame too, that's my problem.

And you commended me earlier on how I can write naw bad tongue.gif

You must try harder-you will improve with effort unlike SPARROT who thinks he knows everything! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-05 18:47:44
QUOTE(moneton!!! @ Oct 5 2008, 06:32 PM) [snapback]523195[/snapback]
Quite enjoyed today. Went down to Inverkip in the morning and watched it pass then went over to the splash and got some pics. Was surprised how many people were down there, great weather helped right enough.

Pic I put together earlier:

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mortonjag 2008-10-06 06:42:26
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Oct 5 2008, 06:12 PM) [snapback]523177[/snapback]
If that situation where to arise we would never have a credible, experienced manager through Cappielows doors for as long as he was floating around. IF he was to sell up i'd make him pay at the gate like the rest of us.

.....and make him show his bus pass as proof of age and identity-YES!!! bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-06 07:00:04
QUOTE(cornbeef @ Oct 5 2008, 07:36 PM) [snapback]523211[/snapback]
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When you go into that mode you start to sound like 'Ming the Merciless' (or some other panto villain) You are in other words becoming a caricature. Anyone who questions your omnipotence is a 'pathetic fool' or an agent of DDFR/ up his erse/sycophants. Not sure that this helps your campaign.
You apparent hatred of ddfr is a drawback too - makes me think that you have personal issues and that Morton's current plight is a convenient vehicle for your 'revenge'
Very few of us can be happy with the start to the season but to equate this to Dougy 'destroying' our club is ridiculous.
I realise that I am now too, up ddfr's erse - despite the fact that I've never met the man.
and btw , one of your favourite insults is 'sycophant' which implies that we have something to gain from the situation blink.gif What, exactly?
I've said before that I fully respect your right to question, and you make a number of valid points , but I tend to think that you are 'wallowing' in our misfortunes. You are enjoying it just too much.

Rae IS destroying the Club Cloth Ears, and yes-I f*ckin' HATE him for destroying OUR club, and I f*ckin' hate the fools who refuse to see it, and whether you think I have 'issues' or not is of absolutely no consequence to me. Rae is a self obsessed tyrant, who employs classically dictatorial methods to get his way. He's getting his way-nobody else but Rae is to blame for the current mess.

If you can't see that, I won't call you a sycophant-I'll just say it's rather sad for an obviously intelligent fellow.

QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Oct 5 2008, 08:24 PM) [snapback]523234[/snapback]
Is he "short selling" the club by giving his advice designed to see us relegated then buy us for a song? laugh.gif


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QUOTE(9 Strathblane Crescent @ Oct 5 2008, 08:26 PM) [snapback]523235[/snapback]
You can call me Mary if you want, I don't care what you call me. Your personal jibes still don't hide the fact that you know only as much as the ordinary Morton supporter. Ah , so it all comes from "information received" . You don't attend the White Rose Fellowship in the Gamble Halls on Thursday night by any chance. laugh.gif

And can you tell me, of your "twenty or thirty" associates on here, how many are still wearing short trouser.
And when did "twenty or thirty" people agreeing to the same rumour somehow make it true.

As for "not very bright smartass weasel" For a supposed intelligent man you have some very serious issues. ohmy.gif
Difference between you and I is that I know some of your "associates" .


You are a fool-pure and simple. I have DOCUMENTED evidence of Rae's incompetence, in addition to other information from SEVERAL RELIABLE SOURCES WHO POST HERE. We regularly exchange p.m.'s.

As I said Peter, you are simply making a complete arse of yourself arguing that black is white. Why don't you get some photographs of Jaggy shagging a sheep. You'd stand more chance of a 'put down'. bag.gif
QUOTE(9 Strathblane Crescent @ Oct 5 2008, 09:22 PM) [snapback]523272[/snapback]
I think the biggest problem with the Trust is that not enough Morton supporters are members. If they truly represented the fans Dougie would find it difficult to ignore them as he no doubt does, just the same way he ignores everybody else. Why should the Trust be any different.

That's an extremely dangerous thing to do. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-06 07:13:48
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 6 2008, 03:52 AM) [snapback]523361[/snapback]
Was I a wee bit early with this thread ?

Or perhaps I was too late ?

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The timing of your thread matters not a jot or a tittle Mr Newall McArthur Newton, as I don't subscribe to second rate journalism, let alone fan's forum rags, though I'm led to understand from having conversed yesterday evening with another loyal Morton supporter on the telephone, and in confidence, that there was a letter, indeed two letters in that local paper on Friday, in which somebody mentioned the well known fact that I saved Greenock Morton seven years ago, which goes to show beyond the remotest fear of contradiction that I am still held in high esteem in Inverclyde, and probably further afield in those days of pocket calculators and such high technology.

Your Aye,

Douglas
mortonjag 2008-10-06 07:30:26
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Oct 6 2008, 03:42 AM) [snapback]523357[/snapback]
Gone tomorrow, McManus caretaker...

Sounds about right EENY!
mortonjag 2008-10-06 07:37:34
QUOTE(Rasta Ton @ Oct 5 2008, 08:05 PM) [snapback]523227[/snapback]
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(big B @ Oct 5 2008, 11:51 AM) [snapback]522899[/snapback]</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Sad but true

Not exactly - The Shed in Shawlands is their favoured hang out most Saturdays these days.

Such a famous person just round the corner from the boys on a Saturday night, and they don't know! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Oct 5 2008, 08:37 PM) [snapback]523241[/snapback]
Clubs are not allowed loan signings when they already have players out on loan. We have 3 players out on loan and they would have to be recalled first before the SFA/SFL would approve any incoming loans. tongue.gif

Anus, I merely made the point that a couple of good loan signings could make a huge difference. Irons has left us without options.

QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 5 2008, 08:41 PM) [snapback]523244[/snapback]
MJ, would a "truly experienced manager" want the job of trying to avoid relegation with all of the handicaps that DDFR adds to the manager's role ?

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Undoubtedly-NO.

QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Oct 5 2008, 11:38 PM) [snapback]523339[/snapback]
We need an experienced man manager - someone with a track record of getting the best out of his players. Allan Moore maybe? Maitland? I think the new manager has to be well into his forties - old enough not to be one of the boys and still young enough to be vigorous about the job. He also needs to be tactically sound and be able to communicate what he wants to the players.

Sandy Clark could be a shout. Jimmy Nicholl would also be good.

One things for sure, we are not getting the best from our players most of whom could play for other first division clubs no problem.

The only positive thing for us at the moment is that Clyde are as bad as us and the Airdrie bubble appears to have burst. They are both more catchable if we turn things round and the improvement has to come very soon.

All good points-the missing link-get Rae to f*ck and only let him attend matches under escort.

I'm NOT joking BTW. mad.gif

QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Oct 6 2008, 03:52 AM) [snapback]523360[/snapback]
John Robertson, with McManus in the interim.

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mortonjag 2008-10-06 07:40:59
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Oct 6 2008, 02:56 AM) [snapback]523354[/snapback]
If we dig him up can we put someone in his place wink.gif

Had you somebody in mind? laugh.gif

QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Oct 6 2008, 03:48 AM) [snapback]523359[/snapback]
McInally by a mile. He was a bad manager, yes, but also commanded a degree if respect from his players, as well as having obvious qualities as a coach. On top of that, his team was always ridiculosuly fit, had a bit of fight in them, and closed down well.
Irons simply has nothing to offer, in any way. The players don't like him, he can't coach, he can't motivate. There is nothing you can actually offer in his defence.

Interesting points. In terms of 'staying power' JM seems to have had it by a country mile!


TTGI!
mortonjag 2008-10-06 07:43:39 Next for shaving shafting!


I give you the most unproductive and overrated player at Cappielow


JIMBO! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-06 07:46:02
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Oct 6 2008, 07:42 AM) [snapback]523372[/snapback]
Only when it's been swimming in the Labial Ocean. Otherwise it has a strangely attractive whiff of Imperial Leather talc. Or not. Depending on pints taken.

TonInDublin

You put Imperial Leather talc on your dick!

I've always used cheap margarine myself.
mortonjag 2008-10-06 07:49:45 Morton should be upsides Falkirk, Kilmarnock, Midden, Well, etc.

Hamilton (c*nts) are a great example of what can be achieved when the Board has half a brain and a wee bit of vision.

Please get Rae to f*ck .
mortonjag 2008-10-06 07:53:11
QUOTE(NewTon @ Oct 6 2008, 03:59 AM) [snapback]523362[/snapback]
If a few hundred of us invested in the Trust, would it have enough to do a deal with Sugar Rae so that he could:

1. relinqish control ASAP
2. sell down his holding to the Trust over 3 or 4 years
3. reduce our chances of being relegated

for example 500 blokes @ 1,000 pounds = 500,000 pounds

200 blokes @ 2,000 pounds = 400,000 pounds

Surely amounts like that would be sufficient deposit to enable DDFR to abdicate with dignity ?

Bryan, could you answer this please ?

Or do we need to join the Trust first ?

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I've a strange feeling that Mr Rae may have passed on before you get an acceptable answer.
mortonjag 2008-10-06 08:04:41 Irons should be off shortly, making JM's tenure look like something of a marathon.

Scottish football knows about Rae-he's been unable to ban mouths and ears!!! laugh.gif

The next mug who steps up will be heralded as yet another AMAZING signing by the old eejit.

How resistant will he be to the effects of drinking from the poisoned chalice?

Will he outlast Rae-who knows, though it looks like the latter's good for another ten years if not a hundred!

Mortonjag's prediction-anybody with experience AND baws will be back oot the door within six months.

Very, very sad indeed. mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-14 13:03:20
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Oct 14 2008, 12:59 PM) [snapback]527315[/snapback]
Why has Mortonjag went to the trouble of creating three aliases?

Is somebody impersonating Mortonjag my child? mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-14 21:21:05
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 12 2008, 09:39 AM) [snapback]525775[/snapback]
If you had to chose a porn star to f*ck, out of them all, who would it be?
I'll go first.

Brandy Taylore

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mortonjag 2008-10-14 21:23:41
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Oct 14 2008, 07:08 PM) [snapback]527473[/snapback]
What blink.gif they go up in the world?

Indeed-bacteria in a toilet bowl are a rare finding those days-unlike a feegie prawn sandwich.
mortonjag 2008-10-14 21:24:36 laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-15 11:16:08
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Oct 15 2008, 08:22 AM) [snapback]527612[/snapback]
That's your department. happy.gif

Nope-ophthalmology! shutup.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-15 11:20:21
QUOTE(dazed @ Oct 15 2008, 08:54 AM) [snapback]527623[/snapback]
good to see you back MJ! smile.gif

smile.gif

Mortonjag has returned among the good guys. The rest are all wankpots anyway!

Once upon a time there was a little boy called Douglas-his real name was Duncan, but his parents decided to call him Douglas. Douglas was an ambitious little chap................ laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-16 09:58:22
QUOTE(Jackie @ Oct 15 2008, 03:52 PM) [snapback]527843[/snapback]
Was he banned?

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Douglas's parents discovered to their cost that Douglas was very fond of sweeties. He was growing so fat that they banned him from going to watch his local football team which he'd been supporting through thick and thin from the moment of conception.................
mortonjag 2008-10-16 19:26:28
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Oct 16 2008, 06:58 PM) [snapback]528395[/snapback]
Welcome back MJ! rolleyes.gif

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....but Douglas was not one to be defeated easily. He spoke to his dear old friend and fellow Morton Supporter Arthur de Montford, who agreed to punt him over the turnstyles at the next game............
mortonjag 2008-10-16 19:28:20
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Oct 16 2008, 06:59 PM) [snapback]528399[/snapback]
Can't believe theres been no pictures of Lolly Badc*** yet! laugh.gif

Perhaps they're not sfw! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-17 10:21:03
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Oct 17 2008, 09:43 AM) [snapback]528587[/snapback]
Willowman is built for speed you know. ph34r.gif

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Always had him down as a voddy man.
mortonjag 2008-10-17 18:18:46
QUOTE(Bryan @ Oct 17 2008, 02:38 PM) [snapback]528785[/snapback]
no rolleyes.gif

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........Arthur obligingly punted the youthful Douglas over as promised, saying to the honest turnstyle operator with a wink-'I've brought a friend-are you up for it'.........
mortonjag 2008-10-18 09:20:24
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 17 2008, 10:28 PM) [snapback]529097[/snapback]
I wouldn't.

However going out of his way to go to Oz, to come back over and be introduced to me in the pub in a time before Mortonjag even posted here would be downright impressive!

Millport and Oz are indeed poles apart!

I'm just back into the country briefly for this afternoon's game.

I'd imagine the old fud will finally accept my offer after the defeat.


AD
mortonjag 2008-10-18 09:47:17
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Oct 18 2008, 09:21 AM) [snapback]529178[/snapback]
Oh Christ, the humanity - won't somebody think of the children.

I have noo got a horrible picture in my head that is guaranteed to haunt me all day.

Cheers MrsT.

TonInDublin

ps is it just me or would Sinitta defo get it ?

WTF is this sinitta-does it come at Christmas?
mortonjag 2008-10-19 20:20:52
QUOTE(Jackie @ Oct 19 2008, 06:59 PM) [snapback]530085[/snapback]
So he wasn't then?

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Douglas was fascinated by football-it gave him a feeling of power rare in a child of his years. Douglas vowed to Arthur that one day he would have a football club of his very own.........
mortonjag 2008-10-20 06:52:29
QUOTE(dirty dingus @ Oct 19 2008, 09:12 PM) [snapback]530120[/snapback]
POOFS

[attachment=4729:longdongkris3wc.jpg]

AWOOGA

Hosey Quitongo?
mortonjag 2008-10-20 09:01:45
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Oct 20 2008, 08:51 AM) [snapback]530175[/snapback]
That reminds me, i need to get sausages today. ph34r.gif ohmy.gif

Slice?
mortonjag 2008-10-20 09:18:26
QUOTE(Lord Haw haw @ Oct 20 2008, 09:01 AM) [snapback]530177[/snapback]
The best political leader the world has ever seen has to have been Margaret Thatchet. She knew how to rule this great nation. I doubt very much if the SNP would have stood a chance if she was stilll in power today.

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versus



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No contest IMO! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-20 13:08:43
QUOTE(Edinton @ Oct 20 2008, 12:45 PM) [snapback]530245[/snapback]
Hence why he's been chosen! laugh.gif

I love work nights out because of all the shenanigans that go on. When at Uni I went on placement for a year, and managed to pull the Director's PA a couple of times - despite the fact she was in a relationship and she was appalled at the thought of anyone in the office finding out, it was a small company after all.

She had a leaving night about 6 months into my time there and a few of us ended up back at the Director's flat for a further bevvy. It wasn't a big flat but her and I snuck into the bathroom at one point and I attempted to give her a farewell present...we'd only been in for a couple of minutes when someone banged on the door needing the toilet (as you'd expect).

She panicked, and was desperate not to be found in a toilet with me on her leaving night (fair enough) so we took the only step necessary - I hid in the bathroom cupboard. I don't know what we would have done without it, but this bathroom had a full-length cupboard in it with enough room to hide in - while the rest of the party-goers came in and used the facilities. I've never been so still in my life as the Director and head lawyer, amongst others, came in a used the facilities. 15 minutes I was stuck in there!

We're not really in touch anymore.

Closet pouffe? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-20 16:17:54
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Oct 20 2008, 03:24 PM) [snapback]530330[/snapback]
How is it that with the straightest possible story you highlight one bit as being a wee bit pouffe related?

I reckon you have some issues to work through good Doctor...and if not then maybe some rent boys happy.gif

Don't be a silly boy. I was merely enquiring as to the seating arrangements in the said hiding place. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-10-22 08:37:09
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Oct 21 2008, 09:02 AM) [snapback]530607[/snapback]
Shame on you Puggsy! MrsT doesn't have an ocean...just a wee man in a boat!

Wasted on him obviously. Not clitorate I guess.
mortonjag 2008-10-22 08:41:39
QUOTE(shaddypeekey @ Oct 21 2008, 05:01 PM) [snapback]530756[/snapback]
then they made beautiful man love all night long, creating many a stramash to millions with their nocturnal liaisons ddon the battery park.

The young Douglas had never felt a warm willy in his rectum before. 'Arthur', he squeaked in his breaking teenage voice, 'you've made me come to a conclusion..............
mortonjag 2008-12-04 13:28:21
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Nov 30 2008, 12:07 AM) [snapback]544437[/snapback]
...... Discuss

As epitomised by Ton fans! mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-05 19:28:48 all of you!
mortonjag 2008-12-05 19:32:32
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Dec 5 2008, 07:30 PM) [snapback]546497[/snapback]
Hi, Mouton, togib, plookheid, erm... I forgot the other one(s).

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mortonjag 2008-12-05 19:34:20 who is this mouton fella?
mortonjag 2008-12-05 19:41:50
QUOTE(MrsTON @ Dec 5 2008, 07:37 PM) [snapback]546505[/snapback]
I see your back...as yourself. rolleyes.gif Were you finding it hard to keep up with your aliases? unsure.gif Not seen Big Blue Jugs for a while? unsure.gif

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mortonjag 2008-12-05 19:50:37 How do you tell a snowman from a snow woman? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-05 19:52:32
QUOTE(Mortonbug @ Dec 5 2008, 06:20 PM) [snapback]546470[/snapback]
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Mr Rae did say in his programme notes last Tuesday night that he would be happy to address fans with a grievance personally, rather than them venting any frustrations on this messageboard. It's there in print!

Perhaps, instead of just bearing a grudge over something which happened two years ago now, and more importantly, which nobody seems to have aggressively pursued, it would be a little more productive if somebody spoke to someone at Cappielow. After all, we all know that the Club seems to take a vow of silence in it's communications when it suits.

Otherwise the ARTC are going to be left out in the cold if this is still going on in a few years time and Morton are maybe in the SPL!

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mortonjag 2008-12-05 20:50:20
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Dec 5 2008, 08:10 PM) [snapback]546516[/snapback]
Snowballs

TonInDublin

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mortonjag 2008-12-06 08:13:34
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Dec 5 2008, 09:46 PM) [snapback]546545[/snapback]
Do you remember Ben Turpin from the silent movies? There was a classic scene with Stan Laurel and Turpin. Turpin was at his skelly eyed best and Stan didn't know which eye to focus on. Comedy at its best I reckon; laughing at the affliction or person wasn't intended, just the situation. Just like you describe.



I loved those old actors and actresses-who was that dame with the grey skelly eyes?
mortonjag 2008-12-07 07:52:21 mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif

Thoroughly deserved punishment:

Strip the rookies naked in Clyde Square for a public pink botty skelping with a rubber penis.

All the arseholes who have agreed with their stupidity should be forced to do a year's community service mending broken clothes poles for old ladies.

Effin Nazis if you ask me.
mortonjag 2008-12-07 15:04:21
QUOTE(Magic Mathie @ Nov 28 2008, 01:17 PM) [snapback]543858[/snapback]
Can anyone from the trust help me with this? I've not had any confirmation that my original query has been sorted.

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mortonjag 2008-12-07 15:11:29
QUOTE(grnklad2006ton @ Dec 7 2008, 03:00 PM) [snapback]547167[/snapback]
Cheers for all your reply's folks. As someone said i suppose its just a slap on the wrist and i will pay it without any carry on. It was just the way it all happend and the way they were treating me, as if i was going to drive my car into glasgow air port or something.

Someone said something on boy racers, well i am only 28 so i could have been tarred by the same brush but i am in no means a boy racer ohmy.gif they are all about 18 and down the esplanade. My car is 15 months old and a 07 plate, the fog bulbs are turned on when you touch the end of the indicator its touch sensitive. A pain in the erse if you ask me.

But yes i should have noticed by reading my dash and saw that they were on yes. Thanks anyway for your reply's. Ps fellow ton fans watch your sell out there in your car over the xmas period, that we copper said they are pulling anyone on anything over the festive period....... And that was his exact words ohmy.gif ohmy.gif .

Why is there always a nice copper and a bad ass copper mad.gif .........

That's a myth. The polis are all pricks.
mortonjag 2008-12-07 15:19:44 A healthy Old Firm is a contradiction in terms. Scottish football would find its own level without those two monopolistic bigot traps who desperately want into the Premiership anyway.

Good effin riddance!
mortonjag 2008-12-08 06:45:46
QUOTE(Deego @ Dec 6 2008, 10:03 PM) [snapback]547017[/snapback]
I'ts a f***ing gift mty man. I'd love to f*** a pensiorner just to tell my pals.

You have a short memory mon petit choux choux! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-09 06:13:53 Plus ca change gentlemen!

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mortonjag 2008-12-09 06:16:24 Here we go round the mulberry bush.
mortonjag 2008-12-09 07:44:10
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Dec 6 2008, 10:00 PM) [snapback]547015[/snapback]
My wife is 60 on Monday. Is having to sleep with a pensioner grounds for a divorce?

False imprisonment should give you a good shout! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-10 06:47:53 laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Does anybody know who Spot Ton is?

I doubt if Spot Ton is willing to out himself, yet he's very quick to attack Andy M and ANYBODY who dares to criticise his beloved Trust.

If he is not a Trust Committee member (or ex Trust Committee member) he is very closely related to one of those remote and unapproachable creatures.

Mortonjag grew weary of attacking an unarmed man. The Trust is an anachronistic waste of space. Mr Rae pisses on the Trust from an almighty height and they soak it up like blotting paper! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-10 06:52:39
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Dec 9 2008, 06:47 PM) [snapback]548088[/snapback]
Tonight after two week sof calling and hanging on for approx 15mins each time I got through to a CSA.

I then had to go through my spiel again as she didn't have notes on my previous call mad.gif

Well tonight I demanded the meter be removed with no further excuses as I had been putting all my leccy off as an experiment so I had more examples. The latest was from midnight last night till 6pm tonight, taking off the cash it used for my shower this morning, it used a further 50p with every single piece of electrical item, not just switched off but unplugged as well !!!

She then asked me to hold on and low and behold after several minutes I was cut-off !!!

I should just go and visit these barstewards in Cathcart or Bellshill, with my meter under my arm !!!

So does anyone know anyone from Scottish Power who could maybe point me in the right direction or that could check my meter ??

This is now beyond a joke.

I advise all SP Key Meter users to try out similar experiments to me to see if they're unsuspectingly being charged for juice they ain't using.


Pm me Jim-I can probably get you some help.
mortonjag 2008-12-10 11:19:27
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Dec 9 2008, 09:35 AM) [snapback]547896[/snapback]
Driving around all day as I do I have to say it's just a minor irritation when someone has left their fog lights on, no real harm done. Laws like this should be removed from the statute book to prevent little nazis like this getting their jollies. There's 1001 other real crimes that could use the bizzies time more productively. Wankers.

A perfect summation of the situation. It's ludicrous-they will only give a warning for a defective bulb because it could have blown a moment before they arrived on the scene, and they'd throw it out of court, so there are 'one eyed monsters ten a penny on our roads-who know perfectly well they are 'at it' and who are a FAR bigger danger than somebody who makes himself MORE visible with foglights on, and I'd like to add that anybody who claims to be 'blinded' by the rear fog light in front is driving too damned close-something else the Polis NEVER do anything about, and my all time favourite is those who have no lane discipline and never use mirrors-Christ knows how many accidents they cause with folk taking evasive action as the merrily plod on oblivious. Do the Fuzz EVER crack down on that-NO.

In addition to what 44TT says there are hundreds of more serious motoring offences before we even get to crimes, but Strathclyde's Finest will always go for the easy touch.

mortonjag 2008-12-11 07:10:14
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 10 2008, 08:54 PM) [snapback]548676[/snapback]
I agree totally that the trust MUST get more bodies in the organisation but I think it would be a mistake for it to start claiming to be everyone's voice.

But this bunker mentality has gone on for too long. In a way I'm glad that it looks like we're losing our seat on the board because it means that the current approach has been shown to be non-working. It's time for a fresh start, hopefully a more open start, and without having to worry about the image of the club board we can start asking some tougher questions and getting more done. Hopefully.

No chance until Shoogly snuffs it.
mortonjag 2008-12-11 07:14:10 Keech Bum and Toly Fart
Wandered doon the Battery Park
Keech Bum couldnae swim
So two wee Tolies pushed him in.

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Memories of a childhood poem-anybody else heard it or similar?
mortonjag 2008-12-12 11:03:17 The real evil in this country exists at the top end of the income bracket. I do believe in weeding out 'benefit scroungers' but the concept of 'taxing the rich till they squeal' has an eternal appeal! shutup.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-12 11:05:32 I'm really looking forward to winning the third division championship the year the new stand is completed.
mortonjag 2008-12-12 13:18:16
QUOTE(scotia morton @ Dec 12 2008, 12:20 PM) [snapback]549339[/snapback]
NEGATIVE and Childish reply! Was good not having to see your drivel posts on here every day! Why did you have to spoil it?

Time will tell Pops! biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-12 13:23:08
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Dec 12 2008, 12:15 PM) [snapback]549337[/snapback]
Two apologies:
Firstly: I had only 15 mins last night to grab a coffee and reply before leaving the house, I did not give your post aa proper reply.

Secondly, I did misquote you, you did say retarded argument, mea culpa.

To the rest of the post.
We come to the sticking point here. Genesis tells me that God created the Heavens and Earth. I take this to be so.
The heavens and earth came about as a result of the big bang. Before the big bang cosmologis agree that space and time did not exist. Thus God existed before time and thus outwith time.
Fair play about 150, you're not happy ,let me go back to it in my next post.
I said I favoured a decentralised system without central state control along the lines of the Swedish model. The use of the word mandate can and often does imply compulsion. A clear muddying of the waters. Use of the phrase " allow, where the parents wish it, the teaching of religion in schools", would have accurately depicted my position, mandate was a poor word choice.


No problem with that Mr Bam, but I've always wondered who made God.
mortonjag 2008-12-12 15:22:57
QUOTE(Trumpton @ Dec 11 2008, 09:28 PM) [snapback]549208[/snapback]
Whilst I agree, I think Irons might go for physical presence on Saturday.

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Instead of his usual twinkle toed poison dwarves?

Our good run is set to end because we are not ultimately capable of scoring many goals and have as much flexibility as Rigor Mortis! Tomorrow night it'll be 'we did our best but the better side prevailed'. biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-12 15:26:05
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 12 2008, 03:17 PM) [snapback]549431[/snapback]
Like how people are saying this is the club guaranteeing to stay at Scappa for many years to come.

We are buying a stand - on the cheap - from a team who put it in not too long ago and are now moving to a new gruond.

...so don't get ahead of oneselves.

Although it is promising.

I hope you are not suggesting that


MR RAE IS A CHEAPSKATE



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mortonjag 2008-12-12 15:42:46
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Dec 12 2008, 01:31 PM) [snapback]549375[/snapback]
Aww naw, you're having a laugh are you not.



Not at all. I've always understood man's inability to cope with the concept of infinity and puerile need to have a 'starter' for everything, and I can buy into the concept of 'God' as a segment of an eternal wheel.

If, however, the said old bearded gent is to be perceived as a 'creator' I believe he can only be so in terms of creation of the part of the cosmos we understand, and I therefore pose the question-'Who created him'.

Nothing comes from nothing, nothing ever could
So somewhere in my youth or childhood, I must have done something good
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I've also found it incredible that learned men can accept a 'big bang' theory. Why not a gentle rustle? I presume much energy is assumed to have been required. Where did that energy come from? huh.gif


mortonjag 2008-12-12 19:06:38
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 12 2008, 05:41 PM) [snapback]549502[/snapback]
In this case I would go with extremely prudent and smart

cheapskate? laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-12 19:08:14
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Dec 12 2008, 06:52 PM) [snapback]549516[/snapback]
removed by who and why?

Procurator fiscal because the matter is sub judice? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-12 19:11:13
QUOTE(Cet Homme Charmant @ Dec 12 2008, 05:48 PM) [snapback]549504[/snapback]
I agree, and it's specifically for that reason that I make a point of making a c*** of myself all year round.

What a feeble excuse! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-12 19:20:52
QUOTE(HMS Willow @ Dec 2 2008, 09:22 PM) [snapback]545389[/snapback]
I have never cheated on anyone I've been with and never would however like several Msg Boarders I've been in relationships with women that are attached.

Not sure why as I never deliberately looked for an attached female, maybe it was a comfort factor knowing that the only way you could be hurt again was if you fell for a women who'd most likely stay with her man when the push comes to the shove so you knew not to let your emotions overrule you.

Double standards here as I would hate to be cheated on and to the best of my knowledge haven't been.

That's just to stop them floating oot the windae Willy Man! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-12 19:53:46 Live is Life


Shoogly and the May Hughes Wobblers.
mortonjag 2008-12-12 21:33:44
QUOTE(MrX @ Dec 12 2008, 08:49 PM) [snapback]549594[/snapback]
Good to see you back on the board with your usual optimistic perspective.


Then I shall be optimistic.

St Johnstone 0 Morton 1


LEAFY


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mortonjag 2008-12-13 08:38:45
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Dec 12 2008, 09:00 PM) [snapback]549600[/snapback]
Not to mention libelious. sad.gif

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mortonjag 2008-12-13 08:40:17
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Dec 13 2008, 08:29 AM) [snapback]549721[/snapback]
Pardon my ignorance, but have you told the club about your grievances yet?

Some things are beyond pardon. wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-13 08:43:58
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Dec 13 2008, 08:07 AM) [snapback]549717[/snapback]
Have to disagree. Seating the away fans in there will increase the atmosphere, in fact we may have a return to the good old days of the shed belting out songs as we will finally have an away fan base we can hear. The acoustics should be good.

I am quite happy this is in the away end, cheap and cheerful for away fans. I think a purpose built stand at the WDE would be a gamble that would not be worth taking.
Get a small 1k seater in the Sinclair St end as a family stand. Altough I am loathed to say, seat the Cooshed and that is us well on the way to being SPL compliant, at least with ground structure if not with undersoil heating.

The bottom line is we remain at Cappielow and retain the atmosphere, unlike our rivals up the road leaving their atmospheric ground for a ground where the fans will have no central point like they had a Love St to create atmosphere and combined with the lego layout of the new St.Mirren Park which will be woeful for acoustics I know what my preference is.

With league reconstruction high on the agenda at the moment we need to try and be ready for any changes.


Agreed. I am extremely apprehensive, however, about the ultimate cost of this 'mix and match' project. Hopefully all will go according to plan, and by the time it's built the stench of skunk will have dissipated.

You pay your money and you take your chance at car boot sales.
mortonjag 2008-12-13 08:46:23
QUOTE(se65an @ Dec 12 2008, 08:52 PM) [snapback]549595[/snapback]
Selling this due to new car coming next week.

Porsche 911, 08reg, 2 Doors, Manual, Cabriolet, Petrol, 500 miles, Midnight Blue, 19" Carrera S II Alloys,Extended navigation module,Telephone module for PCM,Rear Park assist,BOSE sound,FSH, 1 owner.

Quick sale needed, £1500.
PM me if interested. I can send photo's etc. Only genuine buyers, no tele-sales, no time wasters.

Dinky or Matchbox?
mortonjag 2008-12-13 10:37:34 It would be a wonderful world if the Polis got it right every time. They don't because they are only human like the rest of us. Mind you they seem to have made a huge c*** up here. This guy has been shown without shadow of doubt to have been a latter day Jesus Christ meekly going about doing miracles. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-13 10:57:54 Which forum member would you like to shag and why?

I'd go for my old friend beermonkey-it's well known that dimensionally the penis is inversely proportional to the brain. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-13 11:47:48
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Dec 13 2008, 11:22 AM) [snapback]549772[/snapback]
No, he was an electrician going to help someone who had requested assistance with a problem.
A common man going about his business. No miracles. No latter day Jesus.

Just like you and me really.

TonInDublin

So the cops shot the wrong bloke and electricians sometimes end up electrocuting their customers. Sh*t happens TiD.

How about spinning it that the cops were ordinary blokes (just like you and me), trying to protect the public from potential terrorist threat and it all went sadly wrong? mellow.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-13 11:49:31
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Dec 13 2008, 11:44 AM) [snapback]549787[/snapback]
People who are scared of tubular fruits like the banana and the cucumber have deep-engrained psychological issues, which may or may not include habitual sodomy.

ipse dixit.
mortonjag 2008-12-13 12:01:55
QUOTE(mortonfan @ Dec 13 2008, 11:02 AM) [snapback]549765[/snapback]
Grady's contract is nearly up for the time beening, will he stay?... or would you like a new younger face in??

I Personaly would love him to stay because he has lifted the teams morale since he came to morton and maby even become a coach at cappilow for the -19's and first team one day.

Views welcome

I sincerely believe that had Grady not arrived exactly when he did, Irons would be gone by now. Looking at the big picture, what seems good in the short term may prove otherwise in the fullness of time.
mortonjag 2008-12-13 12:12:07
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Dec 13 2008, 12:03 PM) [snapback]549798[/snapback]
Electricians don't electrocute their customers - don't be so daft.

And IF they did, they don't do it armed with a pile of information suggesting that what they are about to do is completely wrong, and after numerous, indeed countless, attempts over the preceding two days to avoid electrocuting them at all.

If it was just something that went sadly wrong I'd buy that in a heartbeat. Indeed, if it had happened the way they originally lied about it (shady character, vaulted the ticket barriers, ran from police, wires everywhere, tried to wrestle with police etc) then I'd have every sympathy for the police who were forced to make that tough decision.

But thats not the way it happened, they lied on the day, they lied subsequently and they knew they suspected from at least 24 hours before this incident that they had the wrong guy.

So as I said, if half their lies were true, I'd buy the sympathy vote.

But they ain't and I don't. Eight dum dum bullets to the brain of an unarmed innocent man, who was obeying police orders at the time tells its own story.As does their subsequent lies.

TonInDublin



There are two sides to every story except this one then! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-13 12:13:26
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Dec 13 2008, 12:05 PM) [snapback]549799[/snapback]
What away fans? Apart from Thistle, nobody brings more than 250-300 to Cappielow these days, including 'big' teams like Dundee, St Johnstone and Dunfermline.

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Are we not going to be in the SPL within one or two seasons? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-13 12:37:51
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Dec 13 2008, 12:21 PM) [snapback]549803[/snapback]
No, there are two sides to this one as well. One of them is the victim's, the other is the police and authorities.
Only one of them has had any sense of consistency since the start. Only one of them has been riddled with lies since the start. And now we know the truth of both sides. But for sure there are two sides to the story.

No one suggested otherwise.

TonInDublin

ps I didn't even bring up the fact that the Met took a blood sample from the victim after his death having leaked a story to the press that he was a suspect in a rape case - which made headline news and drew attention away from the police exactly as they hoped - they weren't just as quick to report that of course there was no match to any crime.

pps just to put right both sides of that story



The cops made a massive c*ck up in trying to cover up their original massive c*ck up. They got it badly wrong twice.

That does NOT alter the fact that it WAS a c*ck up-made in very extreme circumstances. Had they got it wrong the other way and countless innocents slaughtered I honestly don't think you'd be any happier.
mortonjag 2008-12-14 08:21:37 I'm afraid I see this differently from the previous posters-though I agree with the content of their posts.

David Irons is one of the most negative and defence minded managers we've ever had. In that respect things have come good for him-our defence and midfield are looking very tight (with the exception of our so called right back who should be replaced pronto) but we are hopeless in attack. That is quite simply down to Mr Irons' selection of squad.

The result is that we've been conned into getting excited by displays of defensive and midfield resilience because there is nothing else to excite us.

Don't let's get carried away with yesterday's victory-oops-I nearly forgot we blew it again! rolleyes.gif

Attack is the most effective (and attractive) form of defence.
mortonjag 2008-12-14 08:51:38 Brian turned 21 a few weeks back. He was sent to E.Stirling to gain first team experience and appears to have come on in leaps and bounds.

Those who are still writing him off clearly failed to see his ability. I remember his first half cup performance against Gretna at Palmerston as one example of his tenacity and versatility, and he DOES know the route to goal. For those of us old enough to remember, Joe Jordan was actually less affective than Brian at the point of his departure from Cappielow.
mortonjag 2008-12-14 09:08:00 Here's a serious question.

We play away from home against the league leaders, and Mr Irons has already decided he'll try to nullify them and hopefully grab a lucky winner.

We have on the bench a player who is acknowledged to hit one of the best dead balls in our division, and who has started at right back for previous clubs.

He sits on the bench for 90 minutes while faithful Rae servant DM makes a complete arse of himself, and the few corners and set pieces we have are frittered away.

My question.

Is this what Mr Irons wants, and if so WHY? ph34r.gif

Oh-and another serious question. laugh.gif

Superkev got booked and faded early in the second half. Why not give LEAFY a run on the right-it might have added a semblance of attack to the usual 'haud on for a draw' Irons mentality!!! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-15 07:17:18
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Dec 14 2008, 07:15 PM) [snapback]550404[/snapback]
Not at all. I like nothing better than for us to nick a goal and watch the opposition fling long ball after long ball for Shimmin and Greacen to mop up, ala Dunfermline. They might as well put the whistling song for the Harlem Globetrotters over the tannoy to add to the effect.



Unusually, we actually played some very fast and attractive 'one touch' attacking football at Dunfermline and took the game to them. That caught them on the hop, and they never got out of the rut.
There is no way you could align that with Saturday's 'dig in and cross fingers' approach, which is the hallmark of Irons' tactics away from home.
mortonjag 2008-12-15 07:26:55 There's nothing mysterious about it-the nearer it gets to full time the less threat we pose the opposition as DI commands the boys to play deeper and deeper and prays to more Gods than the warts on Shoogly's bum.

The result-other managers tell their boys to go for broke and as often as not it pays off.
mortonjag 2008-12-15 07:36:24
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Dec 14 2008, 10:29 AM) [snapback]550234[/snapback]
The topic was closed by me.

On Friday myself and Boozie were given a few additional powers around closing topics if wwe needed to or moving them from forum to forum so they end up in the right place etc.

Whilst investigating what these new powers involved I made an arse of myself and pressed a wrong button.

A button it seems, that I cannot unpress.

So the short answer is that I am a fud.

On the upside I'll not be pressing any more buttons so normal service is restored.

It wasn't closed due to content or anything, just down to me being a computer illiterate fanny - which is strangely ironic given my job !!!!

TonInDublin

Just as well you're not a barmaid or you'd end up pulling the wrong kn*b and getting Stout.
mortonjag 2008-12-15 07:46:30
QUOTE(togib @ Dec 14 2008, 04:35 PM) [snapback]550342[/snapback]
the polis have just released a news update
they admit that they got the wrong guy

it was his brother they were after
dennis
de
menezes

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I was just having a wee laugh there when somebody told me that a drunk hit and run driver has just mown down and killed Minnie The Minx.


I DO hope there's a huge public outcry and millions of pounds are spent in an attempt to nail the culprit. Minnie was a well respected British citizen who featured frequently in the newspapers. She will be sadly missed.

Our thoughts are with the Minxes at this sad time.
mortonjag 2008-12-15 09:09:50
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Dec 15 2008, 08:46 AM) [snapback]550476[/snapback]
Dear Dr Jag,
This morning I woke up with quite a swollen Uvulva, probably linked to a mild cold I've got.
The wife said I was snoring like a Rhino last night, I'm unsure how many Rhinos she's slept with!
Have you any advice on what I can take to ease this?
I'm a smoker and a bit of a chanter!
Thanks in advance.
InverAlly

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Uvula Ally! Uvulva is a sheep's fud. laugh.gif

It's a self limiting condition, and as you say normally caused by a viral infection so there's no 'cure' except time. You may gain some relief by gargling with warm salt water (teaspoonful to a half pint is about right). My own favourite is steam inhalation-big bowl of boiling water with a teaspoonful of Vicks stirred in-towel over your head and two over your baws in case you knock the bowl over. Inhale deeply through the mouth and exhale through the nose for about ten minutes. Try not to smoke till it settles down and don't be overusing your voice. Good luck.

Oh and I take no responsibility for advice given and strongly advise you to speak to a real doctor if it's not improving within 24-48 hours!!! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-15 09:15:03
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Dec 15 2008, 09:12 AM) [snapback]550482[/snapback]
The teuchter knows what he means doc...

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mortonjag 2008-12-16 07:07:14
QUOTE(cowshed_warrior @ Dec 15 2008, 11:45 AM) [snapback]550521[/snapback]
for f***s sake you old arsehole.. a guy gets murdered by english police officers, and you think the story can be spun in any way to make it look reasonable... i bet if the officers in question were called ddfr you would want them hung ! theres no excuse for what they did... there was no pressure on them other than the pressure from their bosses to "get somebody"... the whole lot of them from the pm down to the guys who went on that train and murdered this guy should be charged with murder... i hate the excuse that they were protecting US from terrorists ! they just murdered one of "us".. time to get your heads out the sand !



Very true!
mortonjag 2008-12-16 07:10:26
QUOTE(Loveless @ Dec 15 2008, 01:52 PM) [snapback]550576[/snapback]
No one was murdered, no one was "executed".

The police were doing their job and got it badly wrong. It's a tragic situation but as far as I'm concerned if the policemen involved get it right 99% of the time then I'm happy.

As for the cover-up (if there was one), that's an entirely different matter and anyone involved should obviously be disiplined, but as for the incident itself, using words like murder and execution don't help anyone, and they won't bring anyone back.



Such logic is normally the province of the erudite and educated. You're not a doctor perchance?

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mortonjag 2008-12-16 07:15:18
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Dec 15 2008, 10:39 AM) [snapback]550503[/snapback]
Sorry, should have asked Mouton for advice! laugh.gif
Cheers.



mouton is a little ram
whose fleece is black as coal
he kids on he's the jag ewe know
I'll ram one up his hole
mortonjag 2008-12-16 09:21:00
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Dec 16 2008, 09:00 AM) [snapback]550948[/snapback]
Something tells me that Sheridan is good at tickling balls.

Tell him to f*ck off Donga.
mortonjag 2008-12-16 09:22:54
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Dec 15 2008, 03:53 PM) [snapback]550640[/snapback]
You sure that's the right spellling?? laugh.gif

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mortonjag 2008-12-16 09:42:17
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Dec 16 2008, 09:25 AM) [snapback]550959[/snapback]
15 Easy Steps to Poo like a Woman:

1. Under no circumstances use any other toilet than your own, regardless of any stomach pain may be caused whilst waiting to get home.
2. With the toilet-brush, clean any residue left on the pan by your boyfriend / husband. Also wipe his pubic hair off the seat with some toilet paper.
3. Flush the toilet before starting. Then wash your hands.
4. Line the toilet seat with toilet paper (as other people may have sat on the toilet since it was last bleached).
5. Stuff toilet paper inside the pan to prevent splashback.
6. Pull panties down and sit. Some women may still prefer to squat over the seat as opposed to taking the risk of touching it with bare flesh.
7. Release solids, but strain to avoid making any sounds.
8. Rise and quickly flush before direct eye-contact is made with any faeces.
9. Take a length of toilet paper and fold it several times to positively guarantee that no residue will touch bare skin (about five or six applications per roll).
10. Wipe once and throw paper into the pan. Do not look at the paper.
11. Repeat steps 9 and 10 at least thirty times. It may be necessary to yell for your boyfriend/husband to find some more rolls to pass through the door while promising not to open his eyes or pass any comments. It is traditional to do this while he is trying to watch sport.
12. Flush the toilet and replace the lid.
13. Wash hands at least three times with disinfectant soap.
14. Open all windows and spray approximately half-a-can of air freshener.
15. Pick up all reading material left behind by your boyfriend/husband and leave bathroom, closing the door firmly behind you.

15 Easy Steps to Poo like a Man:

1. Select reading material (can be anything except a porn-mag; tried by every man once, but never repeated - see step 4).
2. Tell everyone along the way, "Just going for a dump, okay?" Always tell girlfriend/wife, especially when she has visitors.
3. Pull pants and trousers around ankles, then sit down.
4. Adjust penis and testicles to hang comfortably without touching the toilet rim.
5. Open reading material and relax.
6. Whilst waiting, it is traditional to audibly fart.
7. Sigh loudly as the first one bullets out. It is quite normal to experience a cold jet of water rocket up your anus as a result of the first bomb. This is to be endured if you want to be a real man.
8. Remain sitting and reading until pins-and-needles set in to your legs and buttocks.
9. Rise and look at the poo. Make mental notes of any irregularities to report to friends and girlfriend/wife, e.g. colour, consistency, any visible traces of peanuts, etc. You must tell people about it.
10. Take long length of paper and wipe anus. You must look at the paper before throwing it into the pan.
11. Repeat step 10 until there is no longer any evidence of faeces on the paper.
12. Flush. If there is any residue left on the pan, under no circumstances attempt to clean it off. In due course, it will come away by itself. Or, when your girlfriend/wife next uses the loo.
13. Leave the seat up. Leave the reading material on the floor (you can use it again later).
14. Wash your hands once.
15. Vacate the bathroom, leaving the door open. It is important to a man's self-esteem that other people smell his produce.
_________________

One easy step to crap like an eejit.

Follow Shoogly into the lavvy.
mortonjag 2008-12-16 10:06:47
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 16 2008, 09:43 AM) [snapback]550972[/snapback]
I'm asking for your interpretation.

I offered two different scenarios regarding god's part in creating all life. One: that the process is "on rails" and that it couldn't have happened any differently (and, given what we understand of evolution via natural selection, this would mean that not only animal but also human life MUST be guided, as the slightest change could have resulted in something extremely different.)

The other option is that god merely set down the building blocks - the various raw materials and laws - and what happened afterwards was left to chance.

Which one of these was your interpretation of "god made the birds?"

Note that my own opinions on science haven't come into this at all, except the given that evolution via natural selection explains the variety of life on this planet far better than any competing theory or superstition.

Also your increasingly drunken attempts to discredit me are failing, and I doubt that this has gone unnoticed by the neutral reader biggrin.gif
You boldly proclaimed that because god exists outwith the space-time continuum he cannot be bound by the laws of space and time. This is true. However you went ON to proclaim that the absence of these laws meant that there are no analogues to it, and furthermore you implied that there are no laws at all.

I will put my objection to this argument in one sentence, hoping that you won't ignore it for a third (or perhaps fourth) time: the absence of laws does not logically entail that the opposite of the laws is true.

One of us is angry - well, hungover by now, probably - and it certainly isn't me.



QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 16 2008, 09:44 AM) [snapback]550973[/snapback]
It wasn't sarcastic. You are unlettered on the topic that we are discussing.

That I didn't read one specific text in my intellectual tradition doesn't prove especially much. I haven't read all of Spinoza either but I fancy that I know a bit about him.



QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 16 2008, 09:46 AM) [snapback]550974[/snapback]
It's weird how we've gone from there being "degrees" of libertarianism - as well as the deflection regarding anarcho-syndicalism - to there being, apparently, just the one style: yours.

It's hilarious how you can have that pious sig about the benign state but also ask for the state to aggregate the interests of religious groups. I can scarcely think of a bigger contradiction... but then consistency never was the strength of the credulous.

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mortonjag 2008-12-16 11:50:43
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 16 2008, 10:10 AM) [snapback]550978[/snapback]
Looking for some attention on this grey morning?

Why not offer your thoughts on any of the above, and I'll see what I can do?

'God is dead'

Neitsche


'NEITSCHE IS DEAD'


God
mortonjag 2008-12-16 13:11:55
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Dec 15 2008, 10:03 PM) [snapback]550852[/snapback]
Ah, Kirsty Young...... wub.gif

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mortonjag 2008-12-16 13:24:40
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Dec 16 2008, 01:10 PM) [snapback]551040[/snapback]
Don't bite, look at his profile and check out his posts. Almost Every one a walloper. An attention-seeking little so and so.

Edited to avoid my post being an actual bite itself, i suppose.

If you say so! dry.gif

QUOTE(MrsTON @ Dec 16 2008, 01:12 PM) [snapback]551043[/snapback]
She is probably used to being around musicians, her mum was the singer in Soul to Soul, so i'm pretty sure she was around that type of people. Apparently Stevie Wonder wanted to sign her when she was 12.

Obviously a man of vision.
mortonjag 2008-12-16 13:34:56 If anyone has any questions they would like the Trust to ask the Directors of Morton Football Club during the AGM, please email info@gmst.org.ukThis e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it with full details, only genuine questions and those deemed approriate by the Trust Board will be put forward.

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mortonjag 2008-12-16 13:36:43
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Dec 16 2008, 01:32 PM) [snapback]551047[/snapback]
C'mon Nacho, hurry up. I want to hear about this roll dammit!

Maybe he choked on it! ph34r.gif


(Act of God)
mortonjag 2008-12-16 14:11:14
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Dec 16 2008, 01:52 PM) [snapback]551055[/snapback]
I was once involved in a motorcycle accident where a stone dyke wall had come down during the night on the back roads to Bridge of Wier and when I tried to claim my insurance I was declined.

Reason given. Act of God.

WTF did he do, shove it over during the night. I wish I hade pursued it as being an athiest and never having been marked by any religion I am sure I could have done a Billy Connolly and taken God to court.

Surely a warrant would be issued when he didn't appear after citation.

You'd think in this day and age that insurance companies would have found a more realistic way of labelling their cop outs!

I suppose you could have taken out a civil action against the owner of the dyke.

Dykes have much to answer for.
mortonjag 2008-12-16 14:18:12
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 16 2008, 02:06 PM) [snapback]551065[/snapback]
John's Joint Update #000001
16 Dec 2008, approx. 1100hrs
Slice Roll w/ Onions, Tomato Ketchup; Diet Irn Bru

Boozehound recommended that a perfect way to shake off the demons of a hectic early morning was to enjoy a slice roll from John's Joint. Taking, as I do, all my major life decisions from peoples' messageboard posts, I agreed.

It was a mild enough day on the face of it when I ventured out to my car, but a biting wind, coupled with a relentless drizzle, added a bit of cool to the surroundings - perfect slice roll weather, in other words, as it was not too inclement as to necessitate going inside.

Coming up Regent Street, I turned the car around outside John's Joint so as to make good my escape in plenty of time - something that would later work to my benefit. Parking across the road thus, I made my way to the counter.

As it was past breakfast time but not yet the lunch hour there was just one other person queuing: his rolls (both slice and potato scone) were prepared and given to him within seconds of my arrival. This left me free to order a slice roll with onions and tomato ketchup.

After paying John's assistant I fancied that the time might be right to take a photo of John, who was holding court with a customer on the inside of the Joint:

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Now, here's where things get a bit hairy.

You may notice that in the stack of eggs on the left-hand side of the picture there is a small black object. That is, in fact, a mobile phone. I decided that this required a close-up photo, so that the readers of this page could help me decide whether or not this was simply a convenience matter, or if the phone was employed to "pre-cook" the eggs via its radiation - a time-saving device that would surely revolutionise the quick-service food industry.

So, I took a photo. But not only did it prove to be completely unusable (and thus it isn't shown here - there's a 1mb upload limit that I'd rather use on instructive images) but it also caused the photo flash to go off.

John and his customer both looked for the source of the flash. I, being far too embarassed to admit what I was doing, also turned around to look behind me. But the game was clearly up.

"Sorry - I was trying to send a text and I accidentally hit the camera button," I lied.

"Hah! New phone, is it," enquired John.

"Yes," I said.

Damn! I knew that if he asked to see the phone he'd see that it is in fact well-worn from months of constant usage. I had to think fast.

"Well, new to me, at any rate - it used to be my brothers," I backpedalled.

From there we engaged in some phone/photo related banter until my roll was given to me (with choice of sauce: tomato ketchup), and my Diet Bru procured from the fridge.

Overcome with shame and embarassment I made my way back to the car, where the spoils of my journey were placed on the passenger seat.

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The only thing left for it was to drive a short distance down the street and tear the bag open to create a sort of "plate", allowing me to eat on the move. The fruits of this endeavour are shown here: my "thumbs-up" indicates approval not just with my handiwork but also that of John.

edit: the shoes in the passenger footwell are those that I wear when outside the car. However I find them very uncomfortable and indeed slippery when driving, so I change into trainers that are, when the car is not in use, stored in the same place.

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It's a good roll!

Here's a close-up:

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Now, from this angle it looks like it's laden with onions, but this is just a trick of the image. In fact the amount of onions could be referred to as a "smattering." That, however, is exactly what I was looking for.

The roll, being hot and freshly prepared, created a goodly amount of steam in my car - sadly this wasn't captured by the camera. And there was no time for a third attempt at the photo for no sooner had this final photo been taken than I had eaten the roll. I don't even think I'd made it onto the main road before the final crumbs disappeared down my gullet. The can of diet Bru, though, being impractical for the journey, remains in my glovebox.

Overall this was a shame-ridden, but still very tasty journey to John's Joint.

Artery clogging crap washed down with DIET Bru! tongue.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-16 14:20:08
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 16 2008, 02:18 PM) [snapback]551072[/snapback]
That would be Diet Irn-Bru. The can is clearly marked.

And I prefer diet Bru to the normal stuff. I find the normal stuff too syrupy - the diet one is refreshing and has a good "bite" to it.

With Coke the sugary kind is much tastier, IMO. So if there was a Coke product in the car it would have been classic and not Diet.

Edited and noted that you go for the higher caffeine content! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-16 14:22:49
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 16 2008, 02:21 PM) [snapback]551077[/snapback]
I do tend to drink around a litre of diet Bru a day, on work days at least (of which this is one.)

No doubt there's some kind of medical problem attached to this that I don't give a f*** about out.

Fat basturditis! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-16 15:19:47
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Dec 16 2008, 02:24 PM) [snapback]551084[/snapback]
So... we need to 'stop being so defensive minded' because we lost one game away to the runaway league leaders, when by all accounts we were unfortunate to do so?

Not by my account! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-16 15:25:50
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 16 2008, 02:25 PM) [snapback]551085[/snapback]
With Diet Bru? It's like 2 calories a can or something...

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Damage limitation! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-16 15:28:30 Public spanking is the answer.
mortonjag 2008-12-16 15:29:52
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Dec 16 2008, 03:20 PM) [snapback]551126[/snapback]
Correction: all relevant and balanced accounts. happy.gif

As assessed by an unbalanced toddler!! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-16 15:31:57
QUOTE(Thrax @ Dec 16 2008, 02:59 PM) [snapback]551115[/snapback]
I was disgusted when I saw Asda selling tins of baby peas...

Surely it's a bit too soon.

How do they get them out of the nappies?
mortonjag 2008-12-16 15:52:37
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Dec 16 2008, 03:44 PM) [snapback]551161[/snapback]
Whom?

Well done!

For that I promote you to homo erectus. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-16 15:59:13
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Dec 16 2008, 03:53 PM) [snapback]551173[/snapback]
I've only witnessed this Vickers lass in action a few times and I don't know what the fuss is about. She's bloody awful.

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mortonjag 2008-12-16 16:00:58
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Dec 16 2008, 03:54 PM) [snapback]551174[/snapback]
Can you still keep an 'erectus' or are you beyond that stage? rolleyes.gif

Keep it clean young man-we haven't reached the watershed yet-talking of which, I'm off to hoover the flat or I won't get my hole tonight. rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-16 16:25:38
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Dec 16 2008, 04:03 PM) [snapback]551181[/snapback]
Toad, or otherwise?

Mountain goat.
mortonjag 2008-12-16 16:26:59
QUOTE(Thrax @ Dec 16 2008, 04:09 PM) [snapback]551187[/snapback]
kick them? huh.gif

Like trampling grapes?
mortonjag 2008-12-16 19:20:27
QUOTE(Thrax @ Dec 16 2008, 04:30 PM) [snapback]551211[/snapback]
i dont know...are trampling grapes like baby peas?

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Only on Sundays.
mortonjag 2008-12-16 19:24:37
QUOTE(Spot Ton @ Dec 16 2008, 06:43 PM) [snapback]551278[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif "genuine and appropriate", that screws you up for asking any questions.

Woof bloody woof! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-16 19:41:33 That time of year again to recognise the best, worst, funniest posters/moments of the year. Who has made your year on here worthwhile, and who has made it a living hell.

if you can think of any more categories then say and they can be added to the list.

Best Overall Poster

Mortonjag

Worst Overall Poster

Nach0c*nt

Best Wean (Under 18)

Deego

Worst Wean (Under 18)

Vikingbrat

Best Female Poster

On the piss

Funniest Poster

Port ton

Best Newcomer

Mouton

Worst Newcomer

Too many to mention

Best Poster Who Stopped Posting As Much This Year And Is Sorely Missed

Mortonjag

Poster Who Stopped Posting As Much This Year Who Won't be Missed

Hunners

Best Thread

AD saga

Worst Thread

What are you listening to

Biggest Stud

My kn*b

Hottest Female

Big Blue Eyes

Best Overseas Poster

Newton

Best Mod

They are all complete fuds

Biggest Pisshead

Dongawhere'smymirrorton

Biggest Geek

Prince Philip

Special Contribution Award

Mortonjag


Biggest piece of total unadulterated keech

Ron Number


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mortonjag 2008-12-16 20:46:00
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Dec 16 2008, 08:28 PM) [snapback]551318[/snapback]
Exactly. So don't go knocking the present 'varsities' if that's what you were inferring. After all, it's 'old fellas' from our generation that teach in them. Wait a minute, maybe you're right enough. Maybe the knuckle nappers that used to inhabit the beer bar are now teaching philosophy. laugh.gif

That's the whole problem Mr Edwards. Wouldn't it be lovely if people had the confidence to think for themselves instead of quoting from big books.

Mortonjag has provided more wisdom and insight on this piffling little rag than half of the so called Filly Suppers quoted by the board's ignorant young brats.

THOUGHT FOR THE DAY:


For countless years God has been wondering who the f*ck created man behind his back. sleep.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-16 20:50:20
QUOTE(Tom_McB @ Dec 16 2008, 08:49 PM) [snapback]551324[/snapback]
You are a good poster.

So gonnae naw use Americanisms. rolleyes.gif

Don't talk feces!
mortonjag 2008-12-16 20:52:26
QUOTE(port-ton @ Dec 16 2008, 08:50 PM) [snapback]551326[/snapback]
laugh.gif sorry, its a force of habit. I even spell colour as color. sad.gif

Do you clean your f*nny with blue and white bumph?
mortonjag 2008-12-16 20:59:28
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Dec 16 2008, 08:53 PM) [snapback]551330[/snapback]
I visted his grave on Inchmahome a few years ago. A fascinating man with an equally fascinating life story.

"The problem for Scotland is not the English who are a great and wise people. The problem for Scotland are those Scots born without imagination."

Robert Bontine Cunninghame-Graham 21 June 1930

That's no excuse for tattooing it on yer tadger.
mortonjag 2008-12-16 21:02:26
QUOTE(big blue eyes @ Dec 16 2008, 08:38 PM) [snapback]551320[/snapback]
You would be astonished to discover that I am in fact
BRYAN

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That's a complete fabrication! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-16 21:05:16 ...of all the tawdry cheap and nasty stuff on this web site.

I just wish everybody would grow up, behave maturely, and learn to treat others with respect and dignity.
mortonjag 2008-12-17 10:56:58
QUOTE(midTONs @ Dec 17 2008, 10:22 AM) [snapback]551520[/snapback]
Are you saying the accounts are correct?

and why not post under your usual username when replying to me, ffs it's a message board all about opinions Ive mine you have your, you're telling me to Extract your head and smell the coffee I'm telling you to climb out from behind the couch and keep to the one username. laugh.gif

I was NOT behind the couch-I was cleaning Mr Rae's arse car for him.
mortonjag 2008-12-18 07:33:44
QUOTE(capitanus @ Dec 17 2008, 06:47 PM) [snapback]551729[/snapback]
I would contribute to this thread, but i wont bother since all my posts have to be reviewed by a moderator before they're submitted.

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Let me help you Cap'n!




PUBIC HEALTH WARNING FROM CAPITANUS





RAE ROTS TEETH AND FOOTBALL CLUBS


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mortonjag 2008-12-18 10:40:46
QUOTE(44 Tonne Ton @ Dec 17 2008, 09:37 PM) [snapback]551776[/snapback]
I've been collecting pubes from all the lavatory seats it's been my pleasure to sit on, been doing this for 35 years. I've been wondering whether to re-upholster my settee or create a replica of Donga. Whaddya fink?

I've been collecting dead bodies for many years. The cellar's full of them-in fact I've still not got round to stuffing the last four or five. If you'd like an unusual Christmas gift I could shave off their pubes and mail them to you. wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-18 14:41:20
QUOTE(se65an @ Dec 18 2008, 05:54 AM) [snapback]551845[/snapback]
Jim, hate to be the one to tell you this, but must people get the flu every winter laugh.gif

Anyway, Gateside, your showing yir age there, that was shutdown in the 80's. wink.gif

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mortonjag 2008-12-18 14:47:59
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Dec 18 2008, 01:53 PM) [snapback]551935[/snapback]
The year is 2745 AD and the debate over God continues to rage on the Greenockmorton.org forum.

It has now reached a Guiness Record of 14,998 pages with no conclusion anticipated anytime soon. rolleyes.gif

...and the Tilly reports the finding of a fossilised humanoid form under a pile of fossilised books. Protruding from its mouth is a fossilised slice roll covered in fossilised slevers..
mortonjag 2008-12-18 14:57:11
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Dec 18 2008, 02:18 PM) [snapback]551942[/snapback]
Aspartame RAWKSSSSS! smile.gif

aye
mortonjag 2008-12-18 15:52:02
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Dec 18 2008, 02:50 PM) [snapback]551953[/snapback]
Pish mate, doesn't even rhyme.

Donga is a great big ram
His fleece is black and hairy
He covers it in bramble jam
And dances like a fairy!

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mortonjag 2008-12-18 15:54:31
QUOTE(EanieMeany @ Dec 18 2008, 02:58 PM) [snapback]551961[/snapback]
I realise that in the current climate that a football club isn't exactly going to be the most viable thing going, and that it may be necessary to have external financial input to some extent...
...but that is no excuse for making no effort at all to try and maximise the commercial potential of the club. We're never going to have a self-sustaining club if the people in charge insist on running it like a tuck-shop.

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mortonjag 2008-12-18 16:00:24
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 18 2008, 03:40 PM) [snapback]551985[/snapback]
There's no link between the personal feeling of faith and... well, anything. It is a wholly personal phenomenon. (Or so I am told. Having never experienced it I couldn't say for sure, but this is what I am repeatedly told.)

But faith in an organised religion is almost always (in our society at least) sparked by childhood indoctrination. The actual faith part follows later. The "childhood" part is very important as this is when people are at their most credulous - they are literally defenceless against the stories told to them by authority figures.

Thankfully most people seem able to grow out of it these days but you always get people whose credulity endures for the longer term, sadly sad.gif

In any case the important thing is that the secularisation of the education system takes place sooner rather than later. Of course parents and churches must absolutely have a right to preach and indoctrinate as they see fit - children are not the state's property, after all - but it should be done independently, as it is in many civilised countries with establishment clauses (e.g. the United States.)

I know I come across as arrogant, but I don't especially care.
I really don't think he can, but let's find out!

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mortonjag 2008-12-18 16:14:56
QUOTE(DongaTon @ Dec 18 2008, 04:12 PM) [snapback]552020[/snapback]
What if God was one of us?

Little smegma-oops-nach0 would be God. He is all knowing, all seeing, and eats slice rolls.
mortonjag 2008-12-18 16:18:37 MY heart leaps up when I behold
A rainbow in the sky:
So was it when my life began,
So is it now I am a man,
So be it when I shall grow old
Or let me die!
The child is father of the man:
And I could wish my days to be
Bound each to each by natural piety.
mortonjag 2008-12-18 16:24:24
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 18 2008, 04:20 PM) [snapback]552029[/snapback]
Also, were you drinking when you made post #276? This is starting to bug me now, I just have to know biggrin.gif

I can't quite work out if you were beaten too much or not enough as a child! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-18 16:31:43
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 18 2008, 04:27 PM) [snapback]552042[/snapback]
I really couldn't care less about that. I just don't like being misquoted.

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mortonjag 2008-12-18 18:07:07
QUOTE(nach0king @ Dec 18 2008, 04:33 PM) [snapback]552049[/snapback]
I'd be crying too if I was in your shoes. biggrin.gif

Is that a simple statement of faith, or do you have proof. Do you have bunions-if so I have an excellent cure. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-18 18:14:26
QUOTE(se65an @ Dec 18 2008, 05:35 PM) [snapback]552103[/snapback]
laugh.gif I wonder how MJ gets through his day, he must be about 90 or something

wan king size after another

QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Dec 18 2008, 05:37 PM) [snapback]552104[/snapback]
He gets through his day by creating alter egos such as Big Blue Eyes, which probably turn him on in a strange kind of way. rip.gif


I don't fancy Blue Eyes
McArthur-you're a creep
I thought you hated paedos
And I'd rather shag a sheep
mortonjag 2008-12-18 18:29:32 shutup.gif

I've just realised that this is a serious thread-people are actually getting worked up about an imponderable. If you want a debate where ultimate proof is possible, I put it to you that Shoogly has a black wart under his foreskin. unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-18 18:36:03
QUOTE(ton5saints1 @ Dec 18 2008, 05:11 PM) [snapback]552083[/snapback]
Looking at St Mirren and Thistle, two fairly local teams, if we could average a home support of 3000 regularly that would be great.
To go any higher I think we'd require much better facilities and even summer football, as the likes of Motherwell, Killie and even Dunfermline when they were in the S.P.L. can only muster a loyal home support of around the 4000 mark.
Time and time again we've heard at Cappielow that we require an average home gate of 4000 in order to break which is a long long way off as far as I'm concerned.

IF we were winning every week-top of the 1st, division and scoring three and four regularly, I'd fully expect crowds to average 3,500 or more.
mortonjag 2008-12-18 18:39:11 What an outrageously ridiculous postulation. That mercenary b*stard would be looking for SPL wages.

Not a chance. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-18 18:43:07
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Dec 18 2008, 06:31 PM) [snapback]552122[/snapback]
I glad you're not picking the team. The team will be the same as Saturday except that we will play 4-4-2 so one of the midfield will make way for a striker. I suspect that either Paartalu or Finlayson will be on the bench and either Wake or Russell will partner Grady upfront.

If DM is again played at right back Irons has truly lost the plot or Rae is meddling AGAIN!
mortonjag 2008-12-18 18:50:46
QUOTE(forza ton @ Dec 18 2008, 06:42 PM) [snapback]552130[/snapback]
another good thread ruined sad.gif

No it's NOT another thread ruined-though I'm hardly surprised that you haven't the wit to read between the lines. Stick to criticising folk down at your paltry IQ level sonny boy. mad.gif

God cannot be disproved or proved.


END OF!

Now I suggest that Shoogly's sub-preputial naevus is in fact green and white. Have you an opinion, or are you only capable of cheap jibes? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-18 19:33:23
QUOTE(forza ton @ Dec 18 2008, 06:58 PM) [snapback]552138[/snapback]
don't patronise me you f***ing old freak.

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I wouldn't dream of it!

I merely opined that you ain't very bright-is that OK with you junior? unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-18 19:51:58
QUOTE(se65an @ Dec 18 2008, 06:40 AM) [snapback]551848[/snapback]
Only ever drove it to London and back, though I will admit someone cut the speedo cable on the way back. rolleyes.gif

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Are you sure it wasn't the drum brakes that seized on?
mortonjag 2008-12-19 08:15:34
QUOTE(se65an @ Dec 19 2008, 08:02 AM) [snapback]552319[/snapback]
IMO there is no God.

I hope there is somesort of after life, cos I speak with ma Dad everyday, and if not, it makes me out to be some sort of nutter.(Gld Ravenscraig is shut)

God and religion, IMO are born out of the need to understand things we never will.

Why didn't you just say that to start with-look at all the trouble you've caused! laugh.gif

As I said earlier when I managed to get a word in edgeways between the usual up their own erses intelligentsia posts-God cannot be proven or dis-proven.

I believe in a higher power-I believe that any individual can have his own 'higher power'.

So-in the mortal words of Dave Allen-'May your higher power go with you'! angel.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-19 08:45:01
QUOTE(se65an @ Dec 19 2008, 08:21 AM) [snapback]552321[/snapback]
So what you saying here, you saying am going to win the lottery and buy Cappielow one day? Or is someone going to spike my drink tonight and make me feel like a god. rolleyes.gif

I said that the 'Higher Power' is IMO an individual matter-possibly just an extension of the conscious mind to a different level. In some ways I find that far more tangible than the concept of one omnipotence.
mortonjag 2008-12-19 10:39:44
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 18 2008, 08:24 PM) [snapback]552179[/snapback]
And this is why we can never bring corporal punishment back!



Don't be a wimp-just be a good wee boy and your little pink bum will be entirely safe. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-19 10:50:43
QUOTE(johnston @ Dec 19 2008, 10:44 AM) [snapback]552380[/snapback]
I hope there's not a tone of irritability in the above quote, redolent of others' dismissiveness about your diet.
That's one of the alleged symptoms of too much aspartame. biggrin.gif

This thread has negated a small part of the millions spent by the Scottish Government on health education, and for that, you'll probably receive a knighthood, because that's the way of things.

Yours
Hydrogenatedfatmortonsupportersclub. biggrin.gif

PS. Does John put butter/marg. on both sides of the roll or does he do (the Paisley tight-arse) one side only'?.

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eek!
mortonjag 2008-12-19 10:56:57
QUOTE(se65an @ Dec 19 2008, 08:23 AM) [snapback]552322[/snapback]
You know nothing, its got all round disc brakes. tsst, have I got to educate everyone on here laugh.gif

mortonjag knows everything and a Porsche 911 does not have a speedo cable!

That was my point.

I see there's a new Porsche dealer on Kempock St. at Church's old shop.

Anybody know if he's any good?
mortonjag 2008-12-19 11:19:25
QUOTE(rex manning @ Dec 19 2008, 10:31 AM) [snapback]552365[/snapback]
He's not really exagerating that much, against Airdrie we only made 4 passes that found their men once in the 2nd half. I know because the game was so dire that i bet my brother a £1 we couldnt string 4 together. I also agree with the 2nd point i would like to see some football being played, give me a narrow 5-4 defeat rather than a backs to the walls nil nil bore fest.

Having watched us get pumped off Ross County in October i'd take a draw right now.

I enjoyed the recent away match at Dunfermline-we actually took the game to them particularly in the first half and there was plenty of crisp one touch passing which put the Pars on the back foot. I don't feel there's lack of ability in the squad-just an appalling lack of options in key positions. With no wingers and no overlapping wing backs we must be pretty easy for opposing managers to predict.

I wish the myth about Jimbo and Kev could be blown forever-in terms of end product they're not that great. Davie McGregor has been well out of his depth while Smith (whom I do rate for the future) is too easily sucked away from his man.

Even in terms of being 'hard to beat' we have weaknesses, while our goal scoring options are minimal.

Time will tell. Perhaps DI has been misjudged by many. At the moment I don't rate him any higher than JM in terms of player selection and tactics, though I'm led to believe he's a good coach.
mortonjag 2008-12-19 11:24:21
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 19 2008, 10:56 AM) [snapback]552389[/snapback]
Puggsy always plays it safe smile.gif
However it is interesting the "have them hung" parade have stayed well clear of this thread!

hanged


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mortonjag 2008-12-19 11:27:17
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 19 2008, 11:03 AM) [snapback]552394[/snapback]
I read all of this last night.
...why did I?

And why do I keep coming back for more?!?!

I guess I want to see if Nacho gets struck by lightning anytime soon, that may prove something.

But if he doesn't does that disprove something?

Oooh the problems!

If he does the neighbours will think there's a new 'greasy spoon' round the corner. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-19 11:54:48
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Dec 19 2008, 11:36 AM) [snapback]552410[/snapback]
True. For example, on 4th October 2008: "In a few weeks Davie Irons who has undoubtedly done his best, will be a distant memory at Cappielow. The man whom the Chairman promised 'Would be with us for a long time to come' will have been sacrificed amidst the usual platitudes about his 'decency, professionalism, and dedication' and mumblings about ' A results driven business'.
Wonder who could have written that, eh MJ? laugh.gif

Forget who wrote it and ask why it was written.

Grady-the last ditch attempt to save his neck-ended up being an early Christmas present, and the internal strife was sorted at the 11th hour.

I'm SO glad we're now top of the league and promotion certs! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-19 12:01:20
QUOTE(gourock_ton @ Dec 19 2008, 11:51 AM) [snapback]552417[/snapback]
Perhaps the appointment of Mr Duncan and the exciting stadia plans will stop some people jumping striaght in with there doom and gloom stories as soon as a bit of news is released.

Perhaps the non-arrival of the only non-Rae Director who presumably HAS some clout, indicates yet again that he's just biding his time till Shoogly disappears.

I'm glad you find the 'stadia plans' exciting. I'd rather see some money spent on decent playing staff in the first instance.
mortonjag 2008-12-19 12:14:55
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Dec 19 2008, 12:12 PM) [snapback]552430[/snapback]
It's on Eldon Street. Some cracking cars in it. Believe it or not he seems to be doing not bad trade, my mother stays next to it and she has spoken to him a few times.

I thought he sounded like a local man. He's been advertising for cherished numbers to promote the business. Any idea of his previous history?
mortonjag 2008-12-19 12:23:34
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Dec 19 2008, 12:16 PM) [snapback]552435[/snapback]
Luckily for the majority of posters on this Board, your views on anything Morton-related are worth f*ck all. So you can continue to bleet on and on and on and on ................... laugh.gif

That was extremely funny Anus! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-19 12:29:34
QUOTE(Queen of Sheba @ Dec 19 2008, 12:18 PM) [snapback]552438[/snapback]
He lives in Inverkip, think he sells a lot up in Glasgow. Seems a nice guy, rolled up his sleeves and got tore in while refurbishing the salesroom, even had his wife digging up the garden out front. Not sure if he does a lot of business on the internet. Seems a genuine guy, cracking motors.

TYVM!

Probably an ex Porsche salesman who's decided to go it alone. I've already checked his website and the stuff looks good.
mortonjag 2008-12-19 13:04:25 Just finished doing another kitchen and remembered I promised you a picture of my Mummy in hers!
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mortonjag 2008-12-20 09:34:49 Many thanks for all the kind words, though I haven't a clue what Thrax's message means!

To HT-don't be cheeky-mortonjag thinks of everything-my Mum is blind and her right leg is 1.76324 cms longer than her left, causing her to list as she walks. The kitchen has been designed to make her an upstanding woman for the first time in her life.

Incidentally my brother Frank may read this. He's pathologically argumentative and will no doubt claim that Mummy's left leg is shorter than her right, but as always mortonjag is correct.

Any little DIY tasks needing done gents? biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-20 09:45:03 I presume Morton are not to blame for the regulations, but to call a match off because a tannoy is broken is just typical of modern society. As AT suggests what happened to good old loud hailers. Additionally, how difficult is it to rig up a temporary system. The buskers don't have much bother in the city centres.


HUMBUG
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But wait-is that REALLY the truth or is this just a fiddle. Let's face it, if the match goes ahead but there's no income from hospitality-erm-hmm.............

On second thoughts, the Rae family would never dream of that sort of thing. Sorry I ever mentioned it. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-20 09:53:15 So that's it sorted. Everything will be fine now and it's great to know that we'll have a real live director making regular informative insider comments on this wee massage board, and telling Shoogly to get to f*ck if he dares to complain.

G'on yersel Stuarty boy-ream it up the old fud.

Light is at the end of the tunnel! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-20 10:08:08
QUOTE(ThornTON @ Dec 19 2008, 08:08 PM) [snapback]552695[/snapback]
is the world famous Craig Charleston, whoever the f*** that is?!?!? ph34r.gif

Oh wait having checked, it's Mr. Extra Time from Cappielow last season mad.gif mad.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

He's the bloke who danced down to Scapa last season expecting to call the game off when the pitch was fine!!

Travelling expenses x 2 that day.

Mr Charleston was recently in trouble for allegedly swearing at a Traffic Warden-seems he likes dishing it out but can't take it back! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-20 10:15:25
QUOTE(togib @ Dec 20 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]552959[/snapback]
aye.... can you fix the drains outside t-mobile? unsure.gif unsure.gif

It's not my scene. Would you like the number of my good friend Noah?
mortonjag 2008-12-20 10:25:08
QUOTE(beermonkey @ Dec 19 2008, 09:05 PM) [snapback]552711[/snapback]
Really ?

Oh well, cuppa tea then, tongue.gif

Shouldn't laugh really, i know how infuriating it is getting stuck in s***ty traffic on the way home from work, puts me in a foul mood most of the evening & that in turn pisses the missus off.

Makes for a happy home i can tell ya. rolleyes.gif

Dream on furry glovester! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-20 10:34:28
QUOTE(forza ton @ Dec 20 2008, 12:08 AM) [snapback]552834[/snapback]
just finished the millers and mite crack open a bolla wine. is there any point? youse all going to bed to w**k / pray / hump or even read ya dafties!

i'm feelin festive happy.gif

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mortonjag 2008-12-20 10:39:17
QUOTE(InverAlly @ Dec 20 2008, 10:22 AM) [snapback]552969[/snapback]
Temporary system in place but there'll not be any music I'm afraid, you'll all just need to sing yer hearts out! smile.gif

HA


Tannoy man gets a dose of self induced uvulvitis and persuades his good friend God to flood the stadium!

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mortonjag 2008-12-20 13:29:43
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Dec 20 2008, 10:52 AM) [snapback]552983[/snapback]
You really are a pompous disagreeable t***. A lot of people worked their butts off to get this match on and as you should have been able to glean from my post, the only hospitality suite affected was the small silver lounge which only holds about a dozen people. There were people in Cappielow until midnight last night and then again from early this morning. Susan told me about the tannoy and she's not to know whether a temporary system can be rigged or not. Well it has been and that's excellent.

A wee bit appreciation of the efforts people made to let this game go ahead would not go amiss instead of your usual sneering.

Your bedside manner lets you down Doctor!

Stating the obvious is surely below your intellect numbers man! laugh.gif

QUOTE(Fellow Traveller @ Dec 20 2008, 12:15 PM) [snapback]553036[/snapback]
Good to see the old reliable cynicism back MJ.
I was worried you had become a bit wooly headed lately. smile.gif
................................................FT

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Blessed is he who expecteth nothing for the Raes will produce even less! dry.gif


mortonjag 2008-12-21 09:19:51
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Dec 20 2008, 01:31 PM) [snapback]553056[/snapback]
f*** off Mortonjag, you tedious c***.

Welcome back Uncle Mortonjag-I've missed you so much. My post count will now double.

QUOTE(beermonkey @ Dec 20 2008, 01:40 PM) [snapback]553057[/snapback]
Twice i've agreed with you now ! unsure.gif

Welcome back mortonjag, I'll feel much better soon.


(signed beermonkey's cat)
mortonjag 2008-12-21 09:31:21
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Dec 20 2008, 10:57 AM) [snapback]552984[/snapback]
There were people in Cappielow until nearly midnight last night and then again from early this morning to try to make sure the match today could go ahead. I, for one, would just like to say a big thank you to all concerned. Your efforts were much appreciated by me especially as this is the only game my son who is home from the USA can take in.

For everyone involved, cheers!

BRAVO_BRAVO_BRAVO_BRAVO_BRAVO-chaps, and a special BRAVO to numbers man's son who came all the way from America just so that his Daddy could tell us and ask for a wee tune to be played at Cappielow. It's a shame it wasn't but the lad got a wee mensh. Maybe if the twats who are supposed to maintain our rusting wreck of a stadium were up to their jobs the superhuman efforts of those small town heroes would have been unnecessary.

I believe the maintenance man's called Noah Hope. ph34r.gif


mortonjag 2008-12-21 09:36:52 There was nothing at all jaundiced about Toby's report. The only mistake he made was in admitting to a little personal bias which as always has been pounced on by those who still believe the Chairman is sane.
mortonjag 2008-12-21 09:45:17
QUOTE(centralTON @ Dec 21 2008, 01:32 AM) [snapback]553313[/snapback]
Thorn, look at the post above yours, The 'Shire fans love him, however I'm not convinced he is the answer to our striking problem.

It's wake up and smell the coffee time again Franco!

Of course he's not! We've got strikers already. The answer to our striking problem is to get a bloody manager who believes in attacking football, wingers, through balls, etc.

Bullock didn't have a decent save to make yesterday-it's dire stuff we're having to endure. I'm beginning to wish Grady had never arrived and we'd got that clean start. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-21 09:56:16
QUOTE(C B @ Dec 20 2008, 09:17 PM) [snapback]553222[/snapback]
(already posted on P&B but you know what that lot are like dry.gif )

Anyway, the attendance today at Cappielow confirmed to me what is wrong with Scottish Football. Ross County had less than a bus full at the game and I know its Christmas and its a long way, but in a nutshell, Ross County, Peterhead, Airdrie Utd, Gretna, Annan (think thats the right order) are a big part of the problem.........we should be decreasing teams not increasing teams.

Thats Morton's first home game on a Saturday in two months !!!! No football club can run with that kind of revenue........When i think of teams like Ayr and Raith in Div 2 and I see what Livvy and RC have to offer from a paying at the gate perspective its proof that we should have TWO leagues in Scotland before we all die in the credit crunch !

To add a bit more fuel to the subject, I watched the Motherwell v Hamilton game on Sh1tanta! OMG the SPL is sh1te AND boring !!!!!!!

2 Leagues of 18 should just about cover it - last in first out cool.gif



(and thats fixtures - home/away/home/away etc etc NOT home/away/away/away/home/insert random fixture)




I suppose it's inevitable that a wee country like Scotland can no longer sustain so many 'professional' football clubs. We're going through an evolutionary process and it's really painful for the wee clubs.

Morton should be a big club. Once Rae goes we may move forward.

BTW CB-don't you think your wee piccy is now passe. Irons looks twice as old now! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-21 10:16:20


QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Dec 20 2008, 05:27 PM) [snapback]553154[/snapback]
Just in. Have to say we were outplayed at times by Ross County. Felt as if we were going to lose the equaliser anytime, thankfully didnt though. We need a right back, thought davie defended well but his distribution was poor. Took too long to think what pass to play, and then resulted in a hoof up the park. We created more chances, Wake was unlucky.

Reason for edit: Incase people start callin me a moanin face b*****d laugh.gif

Three points well needed in our conquest for SPL football laugh.gif mon the ton.

Correct-he's always a yard too slow.

QUOTE(vikingTON @ Dec 20 2008, 05:38 PM) [snapback]553156[/snapback]
We need a right back. Ross County were a good passing team but brutal at the back, on another day we could have had six or seven without playing particularly well. Defensive lapses in conentration towards the end nearly cost us.
Relieved just to have got through very tricky opposition, so that we can tank the Nazis next week.

Correct-McGregor is a disaster.




QUOTE(Last Boat Home @ Dec 20 2008, 11:19 PM) [snapback]553258[/snapback]
From what I saw today would make the following comments - thought McGregor did well (f*** you MJ) Smith was poor, Greacen was very good, Wake tried his heart out, Jenkins did well and Russell needs to bulk up a bit!! I also thought the Ref had a nightmare giving pishy decisions against both teams.


Would you really like to f*ck me darling? My Mummy lives in Dunoon and has a lovely big spare bedrooom where we could snuggle up together!

McGregor has been p*sh poor for the last four or five matches. He's far too slow, far too indecisive, and a past master of 'hit and hope' with an unnerving penchant for finding the 'rough'. What upsets me most is that the poor guy's trying his best and clearly thinks he's OK. Time for some honesty in the dressing room-why is he getting a game anyway-it STINKS of Rae interference again? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-21 10:24:32
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Dec 21 2008, 09:37 AM) [snapback]553383[/snapback]
I see your powers of interpretation disappeared during your absence. rolleyes.gif smile.gif

Ram your white stick up yer erse.
mortonjag 2008-12-21 10:29:33
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Dec 21 2008, 09:50 AM) [snapback]553388[/snapback]
Another fishing trip, Dr.? rolleyes.gif

Don't be a stupid child. Of course I'm not fishing. Irons is a bloody disaster of a Manager-and an arrogant dick with it IMO. His ego is going to get him into trouble again shortly unless I'm very much mistaken. I almost wish we'd stuck with JM now. crying.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-21 10:37:36 It is a tight league. It's also an extremely boring league full of defensive minded managers watching their backs and having P45 nightmares.

Airdrie have had a bad spell just as we did-maybe they're back on track. Will DI instruct the boys to go out and beat them? Will he set out his stall to play attacking football?

What do YOU think? 1eye.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-21 10:48:58 It is with great sadness that I report the passing of mouton, who was laid to rest yesterday.

One of our moderators requested that he be put to sleep! I suspect he may be afraid of foot in mouth disease to which moderators are particularly vulnerable at this time of year, and in any case I agree that there are far too many sheep on the forum.

Accordingly mouton was live spit roasted yesterday morning and will be found in several jobbies over the next few days.

His last words were:

It is a far, far better thing that I do, than I have ever done; it is a far, far better rest that I go to, than I have ever known.

mouton RIP.
mortonjag 2008-12-21 18:42:03
QUOTE(MrX @ Dec 21 2008, 01:42 PM) [snapback]553486[/snapback]
I thought you only posted when Morton got beat?

Mortonjag is regularly misjudged my friend! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-21 18:48:38




QUOTE(SramTon @ Dec 21 2008, 03:05 PM) [snapback]553530[/snapback]
There are certain shared personality traits which, allied with the surname and Dunoon link, led me to believe that the answer to my question would likely be positive. smile.gif

I hadn't realised it had previously been confirmed. Cheers Smithston and Ghost.

So is MJ also a short-ar5ed ginge?

Incidentally, I did once post about George Newall on Eddie's old board (I think probably the Rivals Net one) in quite uncomplimentary terms long before I knew MJ existed! ohmy.gif

George has never been involved in any way with any Morton website-official or otherwise. I can only assume your connection with him was at Port High where I hope he gave you a good tanning! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-21 18:59:07
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Dec 21 2008, 06:30 PM) [snapback]553625[/snapback]
Form tables for Division 1 make interesting viewing, but not if you're a QoS fan perhaps. NB - You'll need to navigate to Scottish Division 1 from the drop-down menu.biggrin.gif
http://weekendfootball.co.uk/statistics/form.asp

..............and your point is?

After we get humped by the Nazis it won't look so good.

The 'football' we have to endure under Irons is DIRE. I guess many fans are just hoping we survive this season and he's replaced by a manager.
mortonjag 2008-12-21 19:11:32 mouton was my little lamb
I used to hear him gruntin'
I'd like to get that Iron man
And ram his effin c*nt in smile.gif

mortonjag 2008-12-21 19:19:26
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Dec 21 2008, 02:02 PM) [snapback]553500[/snapback]
Anyone else received this little beauty.

No woman will ever be truly happy,
because no man will ever have
a chocolate penis that
ejaculates money! !

Plenty of rich brown pr*cks around this neck o' the woods Barbie! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-21 19:28:45
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Dec 21 2008, 07:11 PM) [snapback]553634[/snapback]
Thank you for your usual positive and insightful contribution. By the way, I started this thread for genuine Morton fans, not bitter old men with an anti-Rae agenda. laugh.gif laugh.gif

I take it that your definition of a 'genuine' Ton fan is a sweet young man who loves old Shoogly to bits.

Are there many of you around those days, Anus?

Tonsilitis will be raging at you for publishing statistics without his prior consent.

I'm heartened to note that this unprecedented upturn in form at the hands of those two managerial maestri Irons and Collins has coincided with a trebling of gate receipts! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-21 19:38:56
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Dec 21 2008, 04:05 PM) [snapback]553554[/snapback]
Loveless is just a Wemyss Bay resident with the local delusion of grandeur formed by seasonal inbreeding. That's not even a bite, that's just the facts.

Those are the facts SPARROT-and I strongly suspect that they are indeed not such, and that Loveless has a much better grasp of English grammar and syntax than your illiterate little self! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-21 20:34:08
QUOTE(scotia morton @ Dec 21 2008, 08:13 PM) [snapback]553663[/snapback]
I think your a negative idiot!

Perhaps son-but I can spell. Now run along! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-21 20:45:24
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Dec 21 2008, 07:46 PM) [snapback]553653[/snapback]
I think most fair-minded posters on here will appreciate that the downturn in attendances is probably more down to the current economic climate than anything else. Still, don't let the facts get in the way of a good story MJ - you rarely do.

Don't talk sh*te anus-folk still pay to be entertained!

QUOTE(Dunoon_Ton @ Dec 21 2008, 07:54 PM) [snapback]553656[/snapback]
Your really are boring MJ. We get another good win & you spout of nonsense like this and say we are going to humped next week off a team who are marooned by 6 points at the bottom of the league. Your anti-everything Morton stance is absolutely grating. Any chance you could dissappear from the board for another while?

Would that be disappear? dry.gif

QUOTE(vespaton @ Dec 21 2008, 08:00 PM) [snapback]553658[/snapback]
Well done SmithsTON,

I'm glad someone has posted their appreciation of DI and DC. I predict this management team will take us to the SPL, maybe not this season but next, like I predicted they would get us off the bottom and gain control of the players.

Of course this fell on deaf ears on here and I received pelters for siding with the management team.

BP.

I predict you'll never make any money as a fortune teller! laugh.gif

QUOTE(scotia morton @ Dec 21 2008, 08:11 PM) [snapback]553661[/snapback]
Life was so much better when you stayed away from this forum! Get a life who ever you are!

I have a wonderful life. Would you like to hear about it son?

QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Dec 21 2008, 08:14 PM) [snapback]553664[/snapback]
His name is Ernie Newall, a bitter, twisted old man who imagines he was a GP in another life. He's also insanely jealous of DDF Rae for some reason. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Don't be silly Anus-though I do agree that anybody who's jealous of that wittering old fud must surely be insane.

QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Dec 21 2008, 08:29 PM) [snapback]553671[/snapback]
Did McManus not fill in for Shimmin alongside Greacen? Apparently he done what he to do and thats all you can ask for.
MJ nae offence but have you ever been positive after a result we get? We will not get humped off the "nazis" and yes, the football may be dire at times but as someone said i would rather win ugly than lose playin good football. Look at Ross County they played some nice stuff but they lost. At the end of the day its the 3 points that matter not how they are achieved imo. Im sure the Ross County fans would have agreed.

I have indeed my friend. I thought we played very well against Dunfermline recently, and said so. I also believe that Airdrie have turned the corner, and have every chance of beating us UNLESS Irons goes for three points. Perhaps Spoonsy back up front will help. I DO hope we win!


mortonjag 2008-12-21 20:48:58
QUOTE(SramTon @ Dec 21 2008, 08:14 PM) [snapback]553665[/snapback]
Nah, he never gave me a tanning (or much else for that matter). smile.gif

There was a thread years ago (not started by me) along the lines of worst, or least favourite, teachers. I alluded to three (I don't think I actually named them), with GN achieving bronze. To be fair to George, the other two were streets ahead (or should that be behind?) him.

I know some of my peers had plenty of time for George. I didn't, but there you go. sad.gif

Fair enough-he can be quite annoying at times-totally unlike me.

Incidentally you may not know that he has endured a long illness which caused him to retire from teaching some twenty years ago.
mortonjag 2008-12-21 20:50:58
QUOTE(scotia morton @ Dec 21 2008, 08:20 PM) [snapback]553668[/snapback]
Yawn yawn yawn!! have you ever wrote anything positive about being a Morton Supporter? Go away and take your Monkey with you!

Written. mad.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-21 20:54:28
QUOTE(scotia morton @ Dec 21 2008, 08:51 PM) [snapback]553690[/snapback]
I have a wonderful life. Would you like to hear about it son?

Its been over 30 years since I could referred to as son!
Your life is that good that you spend a lot of it writing over 26000 crap posts on this website.

Humble apologies. I'm afraid I'm only able to assess posters on their posts, and yours are certainly infantile! unsure.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-21 20:58:15
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Dec 21 2008, 08:38 PM) [snapback]553679[/snapback]
Yet you still can't space those pesky dashes. rolleyes.gif

Pesky dashes-what are you talking about?
mortonjag 2008-12-21 21:01:58
QUOTE(Joe1874 @ Dec 21 2008, 08:55 PM) [snapback]553695[/snapback]
You trying to tell me Irons does not ever go for the 3 points?
Irons: Right lads we only need the 1 point today so thats all we want to go for.
Airdrie are pish. They looked awful against us at Cappielow, so their chances of beating us are slim to say the least. Spoonsy will not get back up front instantly. Wake has been doing good and alongside Grady that should be our front two imo.

That's right-they were apparently pish yesterday! I'll be delighted if we beat them. I don't understand why so many seem to be taking it for granted that we will, and Irons IS the most negative manager we've had in decades.
mortonjag 2008-12-21 21:05:16

QUOTE(forza ton @ Dec 21 2008, 09:00 PM) [snapback]553703[/snapback]
it's time to ban this c***. i wish he wasn't a morton supporter.

laugh.gif

....and he wishes you had a brain!
mortonjag 2008-12-21 21:09:38
QUOTE(Davie McArthur @ Dec 21 2008, 07:35 PM) [snapback]553647[/snapback]
So, when are you planning to out all the others then?

OK Peter-I confess-I'm Spot Ton, and Ron Number. That'll do for starters! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-21 21:18:31
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Dec 21 2008, 09:02 PM) [snapback]553709[/snapback]
Airdrie haven't won in eight league games and we have won 6 of our last eight league games, but MJ reckons Airdrie have 'turned the corner' and will 'hump' us next Saturday. Does anyone still believe this guy's a Morton fan? :blink:

What a ridiculous question Anus. Mortonjag was supporting the Ton long before you were born. I'm simply being realistic, and you'll have egg all over your Shooglyphilic mug if we succumb to the Nazis!

Anybody with an ounce of perception acknowledges that that is perfectly probable. Maybe it's time for you to grow up and accept that we ain't very good right now.
mortonjag 2008-12-22 09:06:42 Gentlemen I urgently require a reply!

I have just been informed elsewhere that 'if I don't stop takin' the piss, I'll be banned'. huh.gif

It's got me terribly confused. I've been banned briefly for calling somebody a 'pouffe'-fair enough-people don't like being lowered to the level of soft furnishings-I concede that I was WAY out of line there-oh and Tontastic once banned me for being rude to Mrs Manchesterton, but that misunderstanding was cleared up, and we're now good friends!

So my question to you worthy sages is this:


Should 'takin' the piss' on an unofficial footie forum be an offence worthy of a ban?


You'll already have sussed the background story I imagine. wacko.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-23 09:21:29
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Dec 22 2008, 04:04 PM) [snapback]554023[/snapback]
Who has said that to you dear Dr?

f***ing shocking if they ban anyone for taking the pish, sometimes the only thing worth doing on this site is take the piss. This is now turning to a vendetta against you as some quite clearly don't like you and cannot take the piss taking. My advice would be to crank up the piss taking to a level that will have them boiling inside. biggrin.gif

Exactly Barbie-and thanks to you all for some words of sanity. I was informed by the new Mod that I had to stick to one identity so poor wee mouton became a sacrificial lamb at the weekend. Sensing that I was about to lose mouton I had had intercourse with the said Mod and thought he gave me a reasonably easy ride (for a Mod)! Lo and behold, I logged on yesterday to this:



I've had several (justified) complaints about you today. Please follow the forum rules and, to be blunt, stop taking the piss or I'll have to ban you.

GKR.

I attempted further intercourse with the said Mod but he has, to date, failed to respond to my advances. I find that strange after him telling me this previously:


Don't worry about it, any reports of rule breaking / personal abuse will be taken seriously without any biased opinions from now on
.


Well gentlemen, I just happened to mention to him that my brother George's name had been dragged onto the forum in a rather unpleasant context by one of the said vendetta. As Ghost knows, George was a well respected local teacher who had to retire prematurely on account of a chronic debilitating illness. George is a Ton supporter but is not able to attend matches, and has never used any of the forums.

I found that a bit distasteful, but I wouldn't have dreamt of mentioning it except in the context of the fledgling Mod's threat.

I also commented thus to him:


I frankly can't be arsed pestering you, but if this is the way we're going to be playing it I'll be copying and pasting about a dozen posts later today with a specific complaint about each-and that's just from yesterday's mailbox. I can't tell you how to do your job, but it might be a good idea to 'get the feel' of my interactions with others before you do anything heavy handed.



What I find rather strange is that I've had no response to my latter comments, and it leaves me in something of a limbo.

Should I risk a wee piss take some time soon-d'ye think. If I suddenly disappear, you'll all know what has happened. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-23 11:47:55 If it's put together in typical Morton fashion I'd suggest it be called the AULD SHOOGLY stand.

Apologies in advance to anyone who feels I am 'takin' the piss'! oops.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-23 12:24:20 Many many many thanks to Scotia Morton for giving mortonjag some rare and much needed publicity.

As it's the Season of goodwill, I was going to return the compliment but I don't think anybody has a clue who he is.

No matter-merry Christmas to you Scotia and to all my other readers! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-23 12:32:29
QUOTE(Boozehound @ Dec 23 2008, 11:23 AM) [snapback]554362[/snapback]
He was never threatened with a ban from the moderators of this particular forum. Willowman's feeble attempts are nowhere, NOWHERE, near ban worthy in here.

Willy man is a good chap!


(guess that's me banned for life) biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-23 12:35:28
QUOTE(rafa the spic @ Dec 23 2008, 12:28 PM) [snapback]554412[/snapback]
Why cant we afford it, Its scrap and you bought it, 8th in the SPL, new stadium, new training ground under construction, yeah its all going wrong for us blush.gif

yeah forgot to say 9.7 m in the bank, times are tough

Very true, but unlike us your Chairman is a smelly keech.
mortonjag 2008-12-23 12:38:10
QUOTE(Mabawsa Ritchie @ Dec 23 2008, 11:46 AM) [snapback]554382[/snapback]
Well the Club Programme has it as 3032 and they should know I guess. rolleyes.gif

Absolutely.
mortonjag 2008-12-23 12:39:53
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Dec 22 2008, 01:46 PM) [snapback]553948[/snapback]
Morton, and some fans who helped, overcame the problems caused by absolutely torrential rain on a day when the main roads into Greenock were closed by flooding.

And you come out with this drivel.

What would you have said had the game been postponed due to the water ingress??

Time to go, moronjag. you're embarrassing yourself now.

I'm very sorry to have upset you.
mortonjag 2008-12-24 09:05:34
QUOTE(SramTon @ Dec 23 2008, 09:56 PM) [snapback]554697[/snapback]
Several points:

1. I don't, and never have had a vendetta against you. The only time I have mentioned you to anyone connected with these boards is in the context of open posts on these forums and in the expectation they would be read by you. To my recollection have never said you should be banned. I have in the past mentioned that I find 98% of your posts pointless and repetitive, but not because I have a vendetta against you - simply that 98% of your posts are IMHO pointless and repetitive.

2. I asked the question whether you were related to George because: I was aware of the shared surname, I knew George lived in Dunoon and you very recently mentioned Dunoon, and I noticed some shared traits. I was genuinely interested to know if you were related.

3. It is a fact that about 6-7 years ago I was one of dozens of posters who contributed to a thread on a predecessor of this board about worst teachers, least favourite teachers, or some sort. I recall alluding to three teachers, one of whom was your brother. I made passing mention of this in my recent post, in what was intended to be a jocular manner, when I learned you were indeed related.

4. I was not aware that George had a chronic debilitating illness. I was genuinelly saddened to learn of this and posted to this effect. I apologise if any distress has been caused to George by his name being dragged up. My mental image of George is the man I knew 20-odd years ago when he was perhaps a fairer target. I will be happy to send him a personal email of apology if appropriate.

5. That said, on the basis we agree that it was wrong of me to negatively comment upon your brother on a board which he has no association with, I am not entirely convinced it was necessary for you to make further public mention of the matter (on a separate forum) in order to advance your own point. I understand (and appreciate) the point you are making, but surely it would have been more appropriate in the context to have made it privately?


Don't get yer knickers in a twist-I only cited your trivial peccadillo in the context of the total pettiness of the Mod's cow towing to anonymous creeps, while ignoring the publication of innocent identities with additional comments. I know you've never forgiven me for exposing you as a pseudo lawyer, but it's Christmas and a time for love and jollity, so here's a wee choon to brighten up your day, and if you're into a shag I can fit you in this afternoon!


come along children and join uncle mortonjag

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mortonjag 2008-12-24 09:29:50
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mortonjag 2008-12-24 09:54:40
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Dec 23 2008, 12:00 PM) [snapback]554395[/snapback]
true - he'll never be as successful as Dougie Rae, will he?? laugh.gif

Who is Dougie Rae?

QUOTE(scotia morton @ Dec 23 2008, 02:51 PM) [snapback]554500[/snapback]
I dont hate MJ, just do not like his views and constant negativity of most things Morton. Plus I find it hard to believe that he really is a Morton fan!

So does mortonjag this weather! dry.gif

QUOTE(scotia morton @ Dec 23 2008, 03:02 PM) [snapback]554507[/snapback]
Hi MJ, I do not care if many on here actually know who I am! There are a few and they will know that Ive supported Morton for the last 30+ years. I do not seek praise nor do I seek attention. I am glad that you enjoyed the publicity, it must have brightened up your unfullfilled lifestyle. I mean what else do you actually do apart from writing over 26000 posts on a website?

Anyway point of the original post was just to see how many other posters had similar opinions than me in the fact that your presence on this forum is boring and annoying at times! From the replies it seems that people agree and some dont!

oh! And I dont care if there are speeling mistooks in the above repliy!!

Have a great xmas old man!


I find the odd wee thing to do Scotia-just finished fully refurbishing a friend's flat-that's why I was off the forum for a couple of months!

Here's another piccy of Mummy's new kitchen-everything from ripping out the old one to completion was done by my goodself and my two sons (also pictured).

Have a belter of a Christmas!

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mortonjag 2008-12-24 10:22:39 Would the daft old octogenarian Kraut not be better taking his gripe up with the boss?


He's plainly far too ugly to ever have got his hole from man or beast.

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mortonjag 2008-12-24 13:37:03
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Dec 23 2008, 12:38 PM) [snapback]554419[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif EXCLUSIVE - "Moronjag Admits to being a Smelly Keech".......

....... so nice to get the chance to correct the auld fud on a matter of grammar!! tongue.gif

Wrong as always! dry.gif


Unlike us (we who are associated with Morton and who are not smelly keechs) your Chairman is a smelly keech.

You'll be telling me how to treat your mittelsmerz next.
mortonjag 2008-12-24 13:51:34
QUOTE(Loveless @ Dec 24 2008, 12:59 PM) [snapback]554891[/snapback]
Why is anyone surprised by this?

Both Christian scripture and the Catholic Church openly distain the practice of homosexuality.

The Church teaches us to love the sinner, hate the sin, judge the action but not the person.

I dont think the Pope has launched a personal attack on every homosexual person in the world, far from it. He is concerned that the rise of the aggresive pro gay lobby (along with the pro-choice and anti-marriage types) are ruining the very fabric of our society, and I for one agree with him. I am a Catholic, but to be honest, this has never been a religious issue for me.

There is nothing normal about homosexuality, I don't need my Catholic faith to establish that fact, it comes from natural law. This modern nonsense that everone is different and that consenting adults should be left to do what they please is harmful in my opinion. We are our brother's keeper after all.

I'd suggest that there are FAR more serious issues in that respect. Homosexuality is 'abnormal' just as is left handedness. There is undoubtedly a genetic element in both. Neither is an 'illness' in the accepted sense of the word.

Little children used to be punished for writing with the left hand-ostracised and made to feel abnormal and dirty.

I, for one, am thankful that we have moved on in that respect, though I'd still be happy to tan the living daylight out of every POUFFE in the country for a bowl of Kellogs' Crunchie Nuts.
mortonjag 2008-12-24 14:06:14
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Dec 24 2008, 11:41 AM) [snapback]554864[/snapback]
Merry Xmas to everyone

Did you have to add your personalised card? Your deer wife DOES look ever so much younger than you. laugh.gif

Anyway, a happy Christmas to you. I guess the prosperous New Year's a foregone in the current economic climate. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-24 14:47:24
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Dec 24 2008, 02:15 PM) [snapback]554913[/snapback]
Theree is nothing remotely offensive in his speech to anyone bar those who make a career out of being offended. For example, Stonewall...
IMO, homosexuality should be treated as 'different and equal' rather than the aggressive pro-gay lobby's attempts to make it 'normal and equal'. In biological terms it is a clear 'fault' in genetic hardwiring.

'Genetic hardwiring'! That's a first for me though I see where you're coming from. In reproductive terms, homosexuality may undoubtedly be seen as a 'fault', or, as another poster suggested, perhaps a boon for our overpopulated planet.

Reproduction, of course, is the real issue for the Catholic Church. The concept is that the faithful must f*ck furiously and proliferate abundantly. Anything which mitigates against that is perceived to be 'sinful'. Anyway, I have a sneaking suspicion that many of the Holy Father's associates have left the Vatican singing 'Benny dicked us'.
mortonjag 2008-12-27 08:36:53 Oh well-another Saturday morning breaks grey and cold. I DO hope the game's on today-Airdrie's very high above sea level and there's been overnight frost in Glasgow.

Our recent form has been better, but even over the last six games AWAY we're only mid table. Irons is not attack minded at the best of times and away from home he's a bloody nightmare.

Airdrie had a great result last weekend-in that respect you could say THEY are the form team.

We shall see, but I promise one thing-if the TON win by playing exciting attacking football, I shall post a wee picture of my left testicle on the Jesse Boys forum.

Why not here?

I'd hate to frighten the children. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-27 08:56:16
QUOTE(centralTON @ Dec 22 2008, 07:54 PM) [snapback]554140[/snapback]
Had an excellent cup in Kember and Jones on Byres Road yesterday. tongue.gif

Not exactly sure if this is a dig at me or at Graham?

If me, why again?

But the strangest part for me is that you called me Franco! Most of my mates through here call me Franco, but, no one from the forum has ever called me that. blink.gif

Are you my secret stalker?, I've always wanted one. laugh.gif

Guess the secret's out Franco. I love you big man-you are SO handsome.

Do you like soor plooms perchance? wink.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-27 09:05:10 It all sounds very exciting. It's nice to have something to be excited about. The way things normally go under Rae we could end up with the poshest stadium in the third division. biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-27 09:21:54 This is a game we SHOULD win. That makes me entirely confident Irons will blow it again. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-27 09:44:43


QUOTE(midTONs @ Dec 26 2008, 11:44 AM) [snapback]555443[/snapback]
Chissi, my believes and views on homosexuality don't come solely from my Christian beliefs and upbringing, they are of my own doing, the act disgusts me, simple as that.


You ain't obliged to watch! laugh.gif

mortonjag 2008-12-27 09:59:59
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 27 2008, 09:41 AM) [snapback]555745[/snapback]
Breaking forum rules!!!!

Wait til mortonjag sees what the old mod was up to ohmy.gif

Wait till the new Mod discovers mortonjag is puggsy ton! ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-27 11:46:00 Nothing wrong with the strikers we've got-just that the supply is abysmal, so what difference will another make? dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-27 11:53:47





THE DIAMONDS FACE MORTON THIS AFTERNOON
Date Posted : 27/12/2008
Despite a heavy ground frost, the pitch covers have kept the pitch soft underneath.

We will leave the covers down as late as we can to protect the pitch but we would appreciate your assistance if you can help to lift the covers at around 12.30pm

Many thanks.


Well, I guess we just have to believe that and hope some fanny of a Referee doesn't disagree! ph34r.gif


mortonjag 2008-12-27 11:57:54
QUOTE(Ghost @ Dec 27 2008, 11:54 AM) [snapback]555780[/snapback]
Fixed that for you MJ.

TY-is he one of the new breed of super duper refs?
mortonjag 2008-12-27 12:06:32 Mortonjag is now the proud possessor of a new state of the art wireless keyboard on which he can type three times more quickly. Also a year's supply of Primark incontinence knickers, a pair of new baffies and a bottle of Old Spice after shave.
mortonjag 2008-12-27 13:01:02
QUOTE(Sanityclause @ Dec 27 2008, 12:51 PM) [snapback]555793[/snapback]
Santa was good then

I hear that they are pretty good - and reversible!

Indeed-unlike C & A's knickers which are clearly marked C & A!
mortonjag 2008-12-27 13:06:18
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Dec 27 2008, 12:59 PM) [snapback]555797[/snapback]
I hear you think even Finlayson has delivered more crosses than McAllister this season. People are criticising Smith and MacGregor for lacking going foward but they shouldn't be the main attacking threat .

It's a sad day when you find yourself applauding either superkev or Jimbo for actually managing to get a cross over-no matter where it ends up!!! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-27 13:18:58 Just like everybody else this news has me wetting my incontinence knickers in excitement. Is he not the guy who is so fast that he puts over the crosses for himself, and runs onto his own through balls?

Honestly I can't believe it if it's true. We'll be top of the league by the end of January. It must be the best news since our last unbelievable signing! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-27 13:29:28
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Dec 27 2008, 01:21 PM) [snapback]555803[/snapback]
Did you not have a nice Xmas or sumthin ? dry.gif

laugh.gif

I had a wonderful Christmas, thanks Spurtle-and I hope you had too.

It just seems typical of Dunderheid DI's blinkered approach that he'd sign yet another striker to fire long balls at!

There's nothing wrong with Spoonsy, Wakey, or Leafy, and Brian Graham's waiting in the wings. All of those guys will get goals if they have enough opportunity. It's utterly typical of our excitement starved fans that they start coming in their short pants at the news of ANY OLD signing-I can hardly blame them.

Here's hopin' Spoonsy gets a hat trick today! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-27 13:34:27
QUOTE(puggsy_ton @ Dec 27 2008, 01:27 PM) [snapback]555806[/snapback]
And they find out puggsy ton is greatkingrat ohmy.gif

laugh.gif

And the biggest expose of course that Davie McArthur is actually Professor Piehole! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-28 10:34:30
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Dec 27 2008, 09:01 PM) [snapback]556040[/snapback]
OK, that's three point lost which should have been three points gained -- or at least a point! For the first 20-25 minutes we cut through their defence like a hot knife through butter. We just lacked the killer touch. At this point Weatherson was missing nothing - he won every header and generally held the ball up excellently. If we had a a real striker playing off him we would have scored plenty!

They recovered a bit and Cuthbert had one good and a couple of routine saves. Young Smith who was having one of his best games to that point including overlapping McAllister several times - yes! a Morton full back getting forward!! - then made his howler. Cuthbert exacerbated the problem by getting himself sent off when, as others have said, it would have been better if, having missed the ball, he just let the guy score. The way we were playing we would have scored two at least!

Anyway, in a fit of anger, Irons pulls Smith and put on Stewart which was half right. I don't know how many noticed but Smith got back to the dugout and got absolute fits from Irons. I'm guessing that the boy will never make the same mistake again!

After the break we go to 3-4-2 which was not silly. Airdrie just did not have the firepower to trouble us much although they did use their extra man to get up to the penalty box quite a lot. Their shooting though was woeful and Stewart made one save and watched one other shot go a yard past the post in the entire half. Much credit to McAllister and Finlayson who both worked very hard to be both fullbacks and wingers after the sending off.

Having said all that, our midfield created very little and we persisted the whole half with long high balls. Even that might have worked if Jenkins had been a bit sharper. We had a move used a couple of times where Weatherson headed the long high ball down to Grady who flicked it through for Jenkins running on to it and he could have scored 2/3 times from this move! Generally though, Jenkins was poor today. He is not a ball winner and if he is to be part of the team we need someone like Paartalu or McGuffie on as well. Masterton was also poor although he won more challenges than Jenkins. Those two in the middle together does not work. They are both decent players on the ball but we need a ball winner alongside.

I would add that I was disappointed in Irons today as he had McGuffie on the bench and I thought using him to replace Jenkins or Masterton was the way to go but he did not. Instead we got Wake on for Grady and after that we never looked like scoring!

So, all in all, a very disappointing day and basically a match we should have won. On the plus side, I can't see Airdrie being anything other than relegation fodder but we could and should have climbed the league today.




And so it goes full circle to his post Dundee rants about Newby which appeared to catalyse a dressing room revolt. It's slightly eerie to think that the last time the Nazis humped us in Germany, Irons was within an inch of his P45, McManus, Jenkins, and Weatherson wanted away', and we went into free fall to the bottom of the league.

Grady's eleventh hour arrival provided our 'Manager' with some respite. He bandaged over the chronic sore that is Irons' 'Man Management'. Yesterday the blood and pus started to seep though again! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-28 14:45:56 Credit due to Irons and Collins for the dramatic change in our fortunes relative to this time last year.? Apparently so if you care to listen to the protagonists on the previous thread. Do they know something we don't! wub.gif

Despite extra money to put together his small squad of quality players, I'm afraid that in comparison to the success of JM (at this point last season)--under this marvellous new regime-


WE ARE WORSE OFF


Which begs the question!


Time to go Davie? ph34r.gif




mortonjag 2008-12-29 10:16:25
QUOTE(forza ton @ Dec 29 2008, 01:04 AM) [snapback]556537[/snapback]
our position according to mj is worse than last season. i would say on the whole we are in ruder health than at any time in the last ten years. i think we're making progress (albeit gradual) on and off the park. remember 10 years ago under scott? we may have occupied a higher position in the league (haven't checked but i'm sure i'm right - jonaton or savo might help smile.gif ) but this was due to to pyrrhic victories under journeymen and youths and we all knew where we were heading.

all this negativity pains me guys!!!

so here is an honest, once and for all question to mortonjag - what would you do differently? what are your answers? other than abusing other posters and the current management and board, what would you do?

no pink fonts, no recriminations, no saying "you're not very bright" etc

you've had manifold threads about you and here's another -
as a morton fan what would you do?
edited cos it looked like i was posting on behalf of all other posters.

Here is a genuinely honest response.

Try reading those manifold threads in which mortonjag has made manifold suggestions and recommendations.

Mortonjag can now spot another personal attack more easily than full blown measles.

I hope I've said nothing above which you find insulting or offensive. If indeed I have I suggest you take it up with mortonjag, rather than clyping to the mods.

mortonjag 2008-12-29 10:30:21
QUOTE(SmithsTON @ Dec 28 2008, 03:09 PM) [snapback]556274[/snapback]
After 18 league games last season we had accumulated 21 points, this season we are on 22 points. As usual, the twisted, bitter old fud that is MJ is wrong again. Pathetic really. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

As usual you get the wrong end of the stick Anus.

Here's what mortonjag said:


Credit due to Irons and Collins for the dramatic change in our fortunes relative to this time last year.
?

Now -check Jonaton's excellent blog, and you'll find that we were third bottom. This morning we sit second bottom-and before you start, I'm merely quoting statistics which is exactly what YOU did with the original post.

....and here's a wee memory jog for your goodself, 75% of posters had 'complete confidence' in JM until---well--erm-humph--almost until this time last year! dry.gif

Which begs the question again!


TTG Davie?
mortonjag 2008-12-29 10:41:28
QUOTE(manchesterton @ Dec 29 2008, 10:07 AM) [snapback]556581[/snapback]
Boll*x

WE don't need a new manager!

We need stability amongst the team. We can't go changing the bllody management team every 5 minutes just because the appear out of favour!!!

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We most certainly need a good manager and have not had one under Shoogly.

I agree that changing manager at this time in the season is dodgy-we did it with JM- God tossed him a 40k sweetener in a used Millions bag, and made the catch of the century by beating 50 other clubs for the signatures of DI and DC! Since then it's been up and up and up! blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-29 17:21:54
QUOTE(forza ton @ Dec 29 2008, 10:28 AM) [snapback]556590[/snapback]
shat out of it again rolleyes.gif

i've never spoke to a moderator on here regarding anyone.

Mortonjag did not state that you had my dear chap, nor has mortonjag 'shat out' of anything. You are perfectly entitled to believe that all in the garden is rosy. The fact that it is plainly not so has been evident to many posters for a long time-mainly to posters who appear to have the ability to think clearly. Having an instant solution is not a prerequisite for making valid criticisms, and it's perfectly clear that we'll never advance in real terms on the strength of Golden Casket.

Our current situation is anything but enviable-you and I have previously agreed that Morton are potentially a very successful provincial club, yet we're sitting second bottom of the league and playing boring and negative football under yet another of Rae's rookie managers. I believe we'll do well to get a draw tomorrow night. I'd LOVE us to get three points by playing attractive attacking football!

A defeat, and the knives will be out for DI-mark my words! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-29 17:43:30 I appear to have made some crucial error of judgement. Perhaps somebody will confirm that we ARE second bottom of the league. Perhaps somebody will confirm that Mr Irons was within a whisker of being booted out of Cappielow with the approval of the vast majority of fans. I honestly can't believe the excitement about a bargain basement reject to house three or four away fans in the second division. What's THAT all about? Oh and it's no change in the Director's box I notice-one Trusty goes and his sidekick steps up to be patronised by God!!! Poor Stuart is to 'foster relations with the fans' with that old fud destroying them faster than the weans teeth! HUMBUG.

Nothing has REALLY changed, and nothing will until Shoogly shoots the crow-it's perfectly simple. Again I ask-what is AD playing at?

This thread has produced the usual knee jerking loyalty from the insiders. I guess they are more to be pitied than anything else.

Stunning victory in prospect tomorrow night gentlemen? biggrin.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-29 17:54:19 Morton 4 Thistle 0 bouncy.gif bouncy.gif bouncy.gif dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-29 18:05:57 As mortonjag has now stated several times he was otherwise occupied for a couple of months. Mortonjag is even better at DIY than he is at winding up the innocent-indeed there is virtually nothing mortonjag cannot do and do well.

After we are defeated tomorrow night, you can all toddle homeward to think again.

Meanwhile, here's a wee choon for the faithful


voila!
mortonjag 2008-12-29 18:21:05
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Dec 29 2008, 06:08 PM) [snapback]556735[/snapback]
Top class joiner then doc. laugh.gif



Oh indeed Barbie-I'm as comfy with a chisel as a scalpel.

I'm slightly puzzled mind you-why was this very typical anti-Jag thread not started in General Nonsense?

I thought the idea was that the Jesse Boys understood the concept of 'fun'! ph34r.gif

Of course I could say lots of nasty things in return about the originator-only the eerie feeling that he's posted seriously holds me back.

I've long since refrained from mocking the mentally disadvantaged. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-29 18:50:59
QUOTE(Barbarossa @ Dec 29 2008, 06:06 PM) [snapback]556734[/snapback]
The game. wink.gif

He may well have misjudged the Shooglemeister's longevity. What with his healthy lifestyle and the Rev Dave's ministrations, I can see him lasting another twenty years or more.

Just think, we could be unfurling the new third division championship flag in 2028, as the May Hughes Roly Polys wobble to the strains of 'Live is Life' and Shoogly zooms round the track on his super chipped mobility scooter exhorting the fifty three fans to 'bring a friend'! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-29 19:14:59 Poor Smiffy is getting a really hard time, which is a shame. Let's face it, he's never a full back, even if he's a country mile ahead of McGregor in that respect. The boy does have football in him and I reckon he'll be OK for the future. He made a mistake which proved very costly for a side which can't score goals in the first place, because the Manager doesn't believe in 'attack'. No wonder Mr Irons went totally loopy and pulled the boy off! dry.gif

Sometimes his 'ils ne passeront pas' approach pays off and we score a couple of goals-that was ALL that happened in the recent 'up and up' scenario. The football, however, is DIRE! ph34r.gif

He appears to be a useless man manager, and an even worse tactician. Ultimately he has to carry the can for another defeat. Smith made one crucial error. The 'Manager' has been making them all season.
mortonjag 2008-12-29 19:30:48
QUOTE(irvineTON @ Dec 27 2008, 03:17 PM) [snapback]555830[/snapback]
I heard this rumour a few weeks ago. Would be a good signing imo.

MJ, u need to get a grip & stop bad-mouthing the club in any way possible!! I used to agree with alot of ur posts, but they're gettin ridiculous now!! dry.gif

I only call it as I see it. What would you like me to 'good mouth' the club for, and I promise to try my hardest?

QUOTE(Ghost @ Dec 28 2008, 10:34 PM) [snapback]556482[/snapback]
I heard a wee rumour, McAllister is offski, SPL

That'll be after superkev joins Arsenal! dry.gif

QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Dec 29 2008, 12:57 PM) [snapback]556634[/snapback]
I'd be cautious about approaching Grady on an extended deal, unless of course we plan on searching out another (better) striker.

His impact has certainly been limited past a goal and an assist in his first couple of games.

If it hadn't been for Grady, Irons would be a distant memory. I'd swap the two of them right now-Grady for player Manager and DI to play either wing because he couldn't be worse than the sh*t 'wingers' he fields.
mortonjag 2008-12-29 19:46:20
QUOTE(Deego @ Dec 26 2008, 03:07 AM) [snapback]555367[/snapback]
again.

[youtube]3Ii8m1jgn_M[/youtube]

Discuss.

not according to this guy!
mortonjag 2008-12-30 09:40:29
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Dec 29 2008, 07:44 PM) [snapback]556773[/snapback]
It was - and one of the mods, in their infinite wisdom - moved it to here.

Six and half a dozen to be honest, you're getting enough attention from some of your detractors in both houses it would seem !

You know how to be a big tease at times MJ !

TonInDublin

I disagree!

Remember the incident which spawned the Jesse Boys forum?

Remember the catalyst-a little chap whose regular attempts to have Jaggy banned had failed?

He is one of about half a dozen posters who cannot see that THEIR egos are hugely larger than this humble poster's.

I don't believe the Jesse Boys forum is the place for wanton Jag bashing, and I exhort you to implement your own rules and protect the innocent.



mortonjag is






INNOCENT




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mortonjag 2008-12-30 10:02:02
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Dec 30 2008, 09:38 AM) [snapback]556888[/snapback]
Spurtle.....one of mj's favourite words!!!!

I wonder!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is there no end to wanton Jag attacks?

Mortonjag's Spurtle and good jousting friend is Colkitto-a.k.a Claymore C*ck, Bannock Baws, Haggis Heid and others long since forgotten.

I'm sure our new spurtle will be happy to confirm another flight of fancy. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-30 10:07:15
QUOTE(ayrton @ Dec 30 2008, 10:01 AM) [snapback]556907[/snapback]
Mmmm won't be the first time I have travelled 40 miles to have it called off 15 min before kick off. Fingers crossed. Maybe they had Mortonjag spouting hot air on it overnight which would explain why it's playable.

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Yet another uninvited Jag attack-oh dear!

Anyway it's still -4C up here in the smoke. 'No inspection planned' means just what it says. Unfortunately it guarantees absolutely nothing. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-30 10:21:07
QUOTE(El gofer @ Dec 30 2008, 02:22 AM) [snapback]556854[/snapback]
I have to say MJ, that I must def go to games with a much different mindset to yourself.

Myself and my two pals who I attend the games with, have endless debates about the team, often disagreeing with each other. We both criticise elements of the team and also of the club. We are also able to see good points in players and the club. I have had the line "McAlister is the club's most sellable asset" thrown back at me numerous times from the two of them who dont rate Jim for example. I must say he has not been such an asset this term, but thats by the by.

There are elements of DDFR I could criticise, his attitude to the youth set up for instance. I genuinely believe he is a Morton fan though.

Surely everything cant be as black and white as you suggest MJ?

I was not a major DI fan at the start of the season, but am willing to give him the season. He appears to have the team a bit more organised, and is getting good performances from players we questioned earlier like Greacen and Jenkins. I would say the Kev or "Special K" as a certain "huge fan" of his calls him (PH!!!) has worked his way to being a very valuable squad member.

We need cover/new blood in the full back region. I would love us to be safe with 2 or 3 games left and give the boy from the 19s a wee run. I would also love to see the 17s and 15s teams develop.

There are positives MJ. Wur shuuuurely no totally doooommmddd!!!



What a pleasure to read a post attacking my views without allusions to incontinence, colostomy bags etc. With regard to the latter, I do hope the perpetrator of that latest stupidity hasn't upset anybody afflicted by or related to somebody with bowel cancer. Posters appear on occasion to take flight of their senses in an attempt to hurt this innocent old man.

Of course we're not totally doomed. Alistair Donald is patiently waiting in the wings - watching the current catalogue of catastrophes with a wry smile. I can't help thinking he's flinging the odd bung to baby Rae just to keep up some semblance of improvement, while letting the villain of the piece slowly strangle in his own incompetence.

We're into our eighth year under the Shoogly regime Gofer, and we're second bottom of the league and COULD still be relegated.

THAT'S THE SIZE OF IT! blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-30 10:42:17
QUOTE(I Hate Manpower @ Dec 30 2008, 10:11 AM) [snapback]556915[/snapback]
How on earth can you rate Harding better than Smith this season, what have you been watching this season?? huh.gif
Will i ever get to read a thread without this guy being mentioned, so annoying
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It really is-I agree wholeheartedly, and wish they'd just let the Jag say his bit. It's surely supposed to be about different opinions!

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mortonjag 2008-12-30 10:54:24
QUOTE(scotia morton @ Dec 29 2008, 11:30 PM) [snapback]556821[/snapback]
And as you are a Non Morton Fan, I bet you hope we do lose!



How dare you suggest that mortonjag is not a Ton fan-what RIGHT have you to judge other people's loyalty. If mortonjag did not care so passionately about a club he's supported through thick and thin for over fifty years, why would he bother bestowing his unsurpassed intelligence on this humble massage board-populated as it appears to be, largely by viperous numbskulls.

I'll be there tonight-IF it's on, and I'll be cheering and shouting as loudly as the next man scotia. Nothing would please me more than a convincing victory. That DOESN'T mean I have to join the Happy Clappies and assume it's going to happen.
mortonjag 2008-12-30 11:18:13
QUOTE(TonInDublin @ Dec 30 2008, 10:55 AM) [snapback]556936[/snapback]
There's none of us saying any different though !

And remember, you have parliamentary privilege in here - so you can say what you really like to your detractors.

Indeed, given that the lead in to this thread is "What an asshole" - and it is aimed squarley at you - and it has been deemed OK in here - then I would suggest you could fill your boots with your reply without fear of retribution.

At least thats how it's meant to work.

Don't think anyone has ever been banned from the Jesse. At least I don't know of anyone who has.

TonInDublin

You have made 2008 for me TiD. For 364 days I've been tiptoeing about on eggshells, terrified of retribution from the mighty Mods, and now I can truly let rip and say what I REALLY think!

I tried very hard to get angry at MrX, but he's really a pathetic wee soul who neither knows who he is or where he comes from.

Residents of Peterbrough don't normally speak like this


Hardly saw a single post from Morton Jag during the Ton's recent superb run of results, now they've came to an unfortunate end he's back on his keyboard like a tramp on a poke of chips... what an asshole.


I suspect he means Peterborough, but one must always expect the unexpected!


Is MrX really a yank?
If so he's a yank and a w**k.
I'd boot in his balls
for the garbage he drawls
but I've others more pressing to tank.

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mortonjag 2008-12-30 11:53:42
QUOTE(Spurtle @ Dec 30 2008, 09:30 AM) [snapback]556887[/snapback]
Marks out of 10 for the squad so far this season.

Cuthbert - Has his moments, but still one of the best keepers we have had for a good while. 9/10

AGREED

Stewart - Hasn't impressed since he came to Cappielow. If he has a bad game against Thistle tonight, he will definately be gone come the summer 4/10

AGREED

McGregor - Defensively he's been capable since he came back into the side. But his distribution and willingness to get forward has been poor indeed. In his last season of his contract, but is doing himself no favours in trying to get a new one. 5/10

UTTER BOMBSCARE AND A TORTOISE TO BOOT-GOOD THIRD DIVISION PLAYER THOUGH

Smith - Young lad who has come into the side. Doesn't look like a natural left back. Still has a lot to learn. Jury out if he can make it at this level. 5/10

ONE OF THE FEW WHO SHOWS ANY SENSE OF URGENCY AND WILLINGNESS TO ATTACK-STILL ROUGH AROUND THE EDGES-PLAYING OUT OF POSITION 6/10

Harding - Has all the skill and can read the game well. But his concentration levels are a major problem for him. Very prone to making "gaffs" in defence. 6/10

AGREED AGAIN BUT WOULD BE FAR MORE EFFECTIVE AT RIGHT BACK THAN SHOOGLY'S PET

Shimmin - One of the best players to come to Cappielow for a while also. Excellent defender and can play the ball out of defence calmly. 9/10

OOZES CLASS AND WOULD BE COMFORTABLE IN MIDFIELD TOO. STRANGELY NERVOUS ON SATURDAY AFTER CUTHBERT/SMITH DEPARTED AND DM WENT TO LEFT BACK! 10/10

Greacen - Has shown a great attitude since he has come back from injury. One of the top performers this season. 9/10

AGREED AGAIN-GREAT COMBO WITH SHIMMIN 8/10

McManus - Made a horrendous start to the season, but is starting to show a bit of form. Can't get into the team just now due to the form of others. 6/10

ONE OF THE FORGOTTEN MEN WHOSE RECORD SPEAKS FOR ITSELF-ON GAMES PLAYED 4/10

McAnespie - Made the bench a couple of times this season without getting onto the park. 2/10

NO COMMENT

Walker - Made a dreadful start to the season at right back. Quite rightly dropped. Perhaps he can do a job in midfield but is not better than what we have there at the moment. 4/10

FUNDAMENTALLY DISAGREE-A SOLID AND COMPETENT FOOTBALLER WHO HAS NEVER BEEN ALLOWED TO SETTLE IN ONE POSITION 6/10

McAllister - Not performed to the best of his ability this season. Can still turn it on at times though. 6/10

THE MOST FRUSTRATING AND OVERRATED PLAYER AT CAPPIELOW AND ANOTHER SHOOGLY PET 4/10

McGuffie - For me, he still hasn't shown the ability that got him into the SPL as a player. 6/10

AGREED

Masterton - Has all the skill in the world. Great at set pieces and can deliver a pass from impossible angles, but in the modern game you need more than that. Let's the game pass him by at times. 7/10

AN ENIGMA-WHEN HE DOESN'T PLAY HE'S MISSED BADLY-WHAT HE DOES WELL OFTEN TURNS THE MATCH 8/10

Paartalu - Not shown the best of form this season. Big and strong midfielder really needs to impose himself in the game. 5/10

GREAT AT BREAKING UP PLAY AND PACKS A GOOD SHOT-BALL CONTROL AND FIRST TOUCH OFTEN LET HIM DOWN 5/10

Jenkins - After a slow start to the season he has come on to show the kind of player many thought he was. Great getting forward. Just needs to add consistancy to his game. 8/10

THE ONLY ATTACK MINDED MIDFIELDER IN IRONS SET UP-FAR TOO MUCH EXPECTED OF THIS GUY 9/10

Finlayson - Unsung hero at times. His committment is there for all to see. A real battler. 8/10

A JM REJECT WHO MASQUERADES AS A WINGER-FOR EFFORT THOUGH 12/10

Russell - Hasn't established himself at Cappielow after his £40k transfer from Brechin. Full of effort but struggles to get to grips with the game at times. 7/10

HIS TIME WILL COME-GOOD STRIKERS NEED CHANCES! 7/10

Weatherson - Big and strong, he can hold the ball up to great effect and bring others into the game. Has an eye for goal too. 8/10

BEST FOOTBALLER IN THE SQUAD AND CURRENTLY PLAYING WITH THE RIGHT ATTITUDE 10/10

Wake - Took time to settle at Cappielow. Very much a confidence player who only seems to come to life in a game after he scores. 8/10

BETTER THAN SOME IMAGINED BUT LIMITED IN ABILITY-GREAT BATTLER 7/10

Grady - Came to Cappielow and played like a whirlwind in his first game scoring his only goal for the Club. Very influencial both on and off the field. 8/10


FOR SAVING IRONS' BACON 0/10! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-30 12:08:17 mortonjag extends cordial wishes for a happy and prosperous 2009.


Lang may yer lum reek.
mortonjag 2008-12-30 12:20:09 How big will the budget be?
mortonjag 2008-12-30 12:29:10
QUOTE(hayfever @ Dec 27 2008, 11:41 AM) [snapback]555773[/snapback]
*sigh* always the bridesmaid. Maybe this new username will help. Ya bunch of bawbags!! tongue.gif

Merry Christmas Morton fans, hope it was a good one.

Not one to be sniffed at!

Where have you gone?

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mortonjag 2008-12-30 12:47:40
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Dec 29 2008, 07:53 PM) [snapback]556778[/snapback]
No he does not. He is an awful footballer.

He is NOT an awful footballer-let that be the end of it! ph34r.gif

QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Dec 30 2008, 12:31 PM) [snapback]556996[/snapback]
Are you fishing here Jona??

Cuthbert made at least three great saves before the penalty incident. I applauded him for his efforts he made during the game. I am sure that's the same reason as many others.


I reckon it was a 'sympathy' applause and indeed he had kept us in the game up till then-something those who are blaming Smiffy would do well to acknowledge. How many saves did their goalie make in the WHOLE GAME?

I don't believe Cuthbert TRIED to bring the forward down, and I do believe that particular 'last man' rule is one of the craziest in the book. He's a goalie and he's working on adrenalin and reflexes. He hadn't time to think out the possible consequences, yet some of our wise men seem to think he should have stepped aside saying 'pick yer spot mate'!!!
mortonjag 2008-12-30 13:04:18
QUOTE(WeegieTon @ Dec 30 2008, 12:56 PM) [snapback]557012[/snapback]
The award for the best avater goes to.....
HAYFEVER

Is that Chris Smith at the back of the team bus after Saturday's game?
mortonjag 2008-12-30 13:09:12
QUOTE(Savo @ Dec 30 2008, 01:01 PM) [snapback]557014[/snapback]
The situation at Sinclair Street could cause a problem, I understand that the police are discussing whether the game should go ahead or not. Haven't heard any more as yet.

Is there any chance, d'ye think, that those of us who plan to travel some distance will have a definite 'yes' or 'no' about this bloody game before tea time? huh.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-30 13:34:02
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Dec 30 2008, 01:25 PM) [snapback]557024[/snapback]
It's the day of the re-arranged match - 16 days later - and the club still haven't bothered to reply. Totally unacceptable. sad.gif

The Club only responds to e-mails when it suits. Anything deemed remotely critical is blanked. Nothing has changed.
mortonjag 2008-12-30 13:51:00
QUOTE(Muz @ Dec 30 2008, 01:41 PM) [snapback]557037[/snapback]
Well done Morton for the quick update.

Now MJ- what ye gonnie moan about?

Is the game definitely on then?

Usually when the Club says 'Yes' it means something quite different. Can I get out my thermal underwear, body armour, and typical Greenock numptie lookalike mask, in the safe knowledge that I won't have a wasted journey.

What do you think? Will there be a sudden fall in temperature this afternoon. Has the referee inspected the pitch-after all his decision will be final and we've had late postponements by the score over the past few months?

MUZ-if this game is not on, you will have to answer to the monkey and fing-be well warned. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-30 13:58:06
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Dec 30 2008, 01:48 PM) [snapback]557042[/snapback]
Not at all. I never applaud a player who has just been sent off if I think he deserved it and it was stupid. I honestly don't understand why anyone would. I never clapped Chris Smith as he was substituted as he'd just made a huge mistake and I wouldn't clap Cuthbert after he'd just been daft enough to trip Lynch and put us down to 10 men and give them a penalty which they'd probably score.
There is no last man rule - the red card is for denying an obvious goalscoring opportunity.

I think he did try to bring the forward down because as far as I remember Lynch had already knocked the ball past him a good bit and as he went to move past him Cuthbert tripped him. The fact the ball was already past Cuthbert suggests to me that his sole intention was to bring down the player.



I didn't mention any-are you referring to the words 'last man'-clearly in inverted commas?

IF he knew the ball was past him and deliberately brought the player down I agree with you.
mortonjag 2008-12-30 14:01:37
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Dec 30 2008, 01:55 PM) [snapback]557046[/snapback]
Tosser.

I think 'Referee' is the more appropriate term.
mortonjag 2008-12-30 15:20:16
QUOTE(VaderTON @ Dec 30 2008, 02:04 PM) [snapback]557053[/snapback]
I personally would have said bawbag, but tosser is better laugh.gif

What would you have said impersonally? rolleyes.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-30 15:25:54
QUOTE(JonaTon @ Dec 30 2008, 02:07 PM) [snapback]557055[/snapback]
I was referring to "I do believe that particular 'last man' rule is one of the craziest in the book." If you are saying you didn't mention a a last man rule what did you mean by "the 'last man' rule is the craziest in the book"?

I suppose that is the question - IF he deliberately brought the player down and the only person who will really know that is Kevin. I'm just offering my interpritation of what I saw from my seat in the stand.

The clue is in the inverted commas-there is a common perception that the last man is automatically sent off for bringing down a player with a scoring chance. The way I see it is that the Ref should decide whether or not it's an intentional foul, but most refs seem to red card automatically.
mortonjag 2008-12-30 15:31:35
QUOTE(Ron Number @ Dec 30 2008, 02:03 PM) [snapback]557052[/snapback]
laugh.gif laugh.gif Crapper.

And, incidently, YOU went "clyping to the mods" a few months ago to get me banned, by taking false umbrage at an old joke (no, not you!) I'd recycled and twisting it around in your inimitable way. How quickly you forget, eh? Or is it OldTimer's Disease kicking in? dry.gif

You were legitimately banned for being a naughty boy. Just think yourself lucky mortonjag was unable to get you across his knee or your little pink bum would still be rid raw.
mortonjag 2008-12-30 15:36:17 If we attack them we can win it. I'm hoping we do and I could see 2-0 to us.

Trouble is that if we go ahead Irons will probably try to protect the one goal lead by withdrawing the troops-we've seen it before- then they equalise and get a late winner! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-30 15:38:44
QUOTE(cmonaton @ Dec 30 2008, 03:32 PM) [snapback]557079[/snapback]
ffs don't confuse him.

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mortonjag 2008-12-30 15:48:19
QUOTE(Malt @ Dec 30 2008, 02:49 PM) [snapback]557064[/snapback]
We need a right back as McGregor is not the answer. Nice guy and long servant to the club but we can;t afford to play him due to his reign at club. It is a pity Alex Walker never got an extended run as right back to see what he could do there. Guy has been shifted around so much, and injured, that he has never made one position his own.

Regarding future signings when you look at the number of strikers we have at the club would we not have to move a few on before we brought more in?

Brian Graham - Still on the books and will be back next year
Peter
Russell
Wake
Grady
Newby


All of those guys would be scoring goals if the set up suited them-Graham is and apparently for fun.

I can't understand why we would contemplate signing yet another striker in preference to any one of four (two wingers/two proper wing backs)!

I'm not greatly enamoured of the notion that Jimbo should be shifted to right back, though he'd be a big improvement on McGregor. Alex Walker is perfectly capable of doing a half decent job there.

When will this club EVER sign a balanced squad? ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-30 16:02:06
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Dec 29 2008, 12:01 AM) [snapback]556522[/snapback]
I'm just out of hospital after flu turned into pneumonia so right now I'm well and truly fecked. My present troubles notwithstanding, I'll give this year 10, all down to the birth of my Grandson Dylan.

I'm sure you'll improve rapidly now that you're out of hospital Mr Edwards-those are very dangerous places where people die on a daily basis.

2008 has been everything I could ever have wished for and more-undoubtedly 10/10. Making so many new friends on this massage board has put the icing on the cake. smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-30 17:20:43 He maintained the word pig could be found in the Oxford dictionary and was often used to describe police.

But added he had learned 'that there is nothing at all in common with a pig and an officer'
.




...as pigs have four legs and are reputedly very intelligent?


mortonjag 2008-12-30 17:25:49
QUOTE(Colkitto @ Dec 30 2008, 05:16 PM) [snapback]557134[/snapback]
Why, thankyou Earnie boy laugh.gif

It's a pleasure. BTW you can't have failed to notice that we have a new poster who calls himself 'Spurtle'. I may have to invent a new name for you for 2009. blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-30 22:50:23 Credit where due-not a failure tonight with the possible exception of Stewart. Put the defence under pressure needlessly on several occasions by his indecisiveness, and I honestly can't remember any decent saves-he did smother a half hit shot in the first half. His kicking and general distribution were poor. Thank goodness Cuthbert will be back on Saturday.

Shimmin and Greacen are shaping up as the best central pairing in this league, while our two 'full backs' coped quite well. Alex Walker in particular was always willing to drive forward and made some telling passes. Jimbo and Kev-much of the same -brilliant workhorses but dreadful finishers. Jenks doesn't deserve so much criticism-he did a power of work even if he wasn't very productive, and his midfield mate Stevie M was my MOTM. How this guy can ever be left out of a starting eleven is a mystery to me-two set pieces-two goals-the second an utterly magnificent glancing header from a tireless Spoonsy. We need another striker-AYE RIGHT!!!

Who's left? Grady-always in there, and providing excellent link play particularly with Spoonsy and the midfielders, and very unlucky with a cracking shot off the bar. His influence clearly extends beyond the playing field and he individually 'high fived' every team mate off at the end.

I really enjoyed the game-OK Tuffey didn't actually have any real saves to make, but we were always in command, and for once the goals came nicely for us.

It was pretty obvious that McColl had written his side off by mid way through the second half.


Well done boys!
mortonjag 2008-12-30 23:06:59
QUOTE(scotia morton @ Dec 30 2008, 10:38 PM) [snapback]557353[/snapback]
Despite what MJ thinks the fact that we have now completed the second quarter of the season with 7 wins out of the 9 teams in the league, only Livingston and St Johnstone getting victorys over us by a single goal, proves that we are going in the right direction. Its just a pity that our result against Airdrie went the wrong way or we would have been sitting 4th after tonights game.

Off the field things appear to be going in the right direction too. The purchase of St Midden's old stand for the dublin end and other activity to improve the ground gives me the impression that the club is in safe hands.
On the field its clear we do have to improve to fine tune the squad, fullbacks and a proven 1st division goal scorer being the priority in my opinion.

But overall I am pretty positive about 2009 and can see us finishing in the top 5 rather than fighting off relegation.
No doubt MJ will disagree with my assessment and I would like him to explain why he thinks Irons, Collins and Dougie Rae are not the right men to take the Club forward.

I'm a happy man tonight. One game at a time please! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-30 23:16:46
QUOTE(piehutt @ Dec 30 2008, 06:37 PM) [snapback]557148[/snapback]
Seriously folks I cannot believe people try to engage in discussion with MJ. Totally pointless.

As for signings... if we get Elliot then good. Think he's a bit of a big time charlie hence his drop down from the SPL, but certainly an able player for us and I think it should work out.

As for other signings... Grady. If so - fine, if not, fair enough - only going to get 4/5 months out of him.

If we have that then I think we will comfortably stay in the division, so I guess that is our objective sorted at the moment from where we are today.

Elsewhere... yes, we'd like a full back or two and I'd like a wide player to replace Finlayson.
Centre mid - I think we have to be content with two from four... Jenkins, McGuffie, Masterton and Partaalu, at the moment.

But I guess that wouldn't be a priority and we'd prob have to look at moving on the likes of McManus, Russell, McAnespie (is he still here?) and free up wages for a couple more.

We cannot afford to lose Jimbo and Shimmin - who I'd imagine are the only players people may look at. Perhaps Greacan if anyone has seen him in the last 10 games or so as he's been faultless, and I guess Cuthbert could probably move up a level, if any SPL sides needed a 2nd choice keeper? Dundee Utd?

Also - we clearly need to reassess our objectives next summer? Do we want to challenge... if we do we need a bigger squad... it's all very well putting together decent runs of 6 or 7 games, but clearly we've put out some makeshift teams at times and it costs us. Our midfield at the start of the season was a joke without Jenkins there, likewise our defence with McManus in it.

We need 3 or 4 more guys of this quality... Jenkins, Greacan, McAlister etc who add major depth to the squad. The likes of Finlayson and Wake should only be reserve players, rather than players who feature in nearly every game.


There are many, many well qualified and intellectually gifted posters who regularly do just that Piehole. Perhaps you're just not on the same plane! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-30 23:21:35
QUOTE(scotia morton @ Dec 30 2008, 11:10 PM) [snapback]557381[/snapback]
So does MJ now think things are not as bad as he was writing on the forum earlier this week?

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Listen you-I thoroughly enjoyed that performance tonight, and I'm trying to enjoy a nice cup of strong tea with my monkey and fing.

Maybe I've put on rose tinted specs for once. I'll let you know in the morning! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-30 23:26:04
QUOTE(mortonjag @ Dec 30 2008, 03:36 PM) [snapback]557081[/snapback]
If we attack them we can win it. I'm hoping we do and I could see 2-0 to us.

Trouble is that if we go ahead Irons will probably try to protect the one goal lead by withdrawing the troops-we've seen it before- then they equalise and get a late winner! dry.gif

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mortonjag 2008-12-30 23:37:06
QUOTE(IainMorton @ Dec 30 2008, 11:31 PM) [snapback]557395[/snapback]
Up to 6th now (Dundee have a game in hand mind) and our next 4 games are QOTS at home, Dundee away then St. Johsntone and Livi at home, can see us getting 8 points of that lot. happy.gif

We could get 12! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-30 23:59:00
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Dec 30 2008, 11:51 PM) [snapback]557408[/snapback]
here we go......i actually think a lot of them wished you were there....your name was mentioned a few times...

cant remember if it was w*nker or dickhead you were classified as...Or just boring ..

You choose...................

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Enjoy your beauty sleep-the Jag secretly loves you! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-31 00:03:24
QUOTE(bilco @ Dec 30 2008, 11:53 PM) [snapback]557409[/snapback]
it could easily have been 4-0 if the goal was allowed and the penalty was given.
could have easly been 9-0 if we had an attaking midfield and not a defensive one.
We so need a midfield playmaker who can turn and play a through ball. or spray it our wide when needed.
We are playing with Grady up front who as he proved all his life and against Clyde he plays off the shoulder of defenders. Play the fkn ball through he wants to run at defences.

And dont get me started on Jenkins.......should have been off after 5min..looked knacked

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You're a hard taskmaster Srge!

We DID win! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-31 00:37:25 What a pleasant surprise tonight. Singing and chanting from the shed, and general happiness all round. Long may it continue.

Before I slope off to my bed
I'd like to thank the TON cowshed
For tunes still ringing in my head-
I'd long since thought that they were dead!

So here's tae every cowshed coo
Who gave tonight a hearty Moo
And even though you were hauf fu'
The boys appreciated you

Come back again on Saturday
And bring a friend for Dougie Rae
No matter be you straight or gay
It helps with McAnespie's pay

Sing anything-the Hokey Cokey
Will put more money in the pokey
If you'd prefer the 'Auld Lang Syne'
I've checked and Shoogly says 'That's fine'!




mortonjag 2008-12-31 00:47:04
QUOTE(bilco @ Dec 31 2008, 12:16 AM) [snapback]557430[/snapback]
But doesnt get away from the fact mj that if we had an attacking midfield we could finish alot more games off. Maybe as we all think it isnt the strikers fault but the midfield if we had more adventurous balls played god knows. yes we did win and for that i am happy but could/should have been alot more

Bilco-will you please stop girning? You are beginning to sound like that decrepit old c*nt from Glasgow-you know who I mean! laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-31 00:55:20
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Dec 31 2008, 12:20 AM) [snapback]557432[/snapback]
That will put the kybosh on a poor performance although that ginger hair unforgivable .

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Wait and see-with our luck the ginger one will play a blinder.

I was 'chatted up' at half time by a lady who commented that she'd really liked that 'ex Rangers boy'. I thought she maybe meant Chris Smith (RIP) or Alex Walker. 'No' she rejoined, 'the wee ginger goalie'. I asked her what in particular had impressed her, and she seemed a bit stuck for words! wub.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-31 01:09:34
QUOTE(Flight Ton @ Dec 31 2008, 12:05 AM) [snapback]557424[/snapback]
aye...his wanking chariot...and thats where im off too....

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QUOTE(se65an @ Dec 31 2008, 12:09 AM) [snapback]557427[/snapback]
Would like to say enjoy, but erm like please at least use a sock, f*** (crude I know) making a mess of the bed.
Night night

Flights of fancy-aka 'I could hump that Gillian one to a band playin'! blink.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-31 08:58:46
QUOTE(scotia morton @ Dec 30 2008, 11:10 PM) [snapback]557381[/snapback]
So does MJ now think things are not as bad as he was writing on the forum earlier this week?


No doubt MJ will disagree with my assessment and I would like him to explain why he thinks Irons, Collins and Dougie Rae are not the right men to take the Club forward
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Good morning Scotia. I'm sitting with yet another cup of strong tea having come down to earth after last night's excitement, and asking myself why it seemed like we'd just won the Scottish Cup against Cellic or Rangers.


Maybe that answers your questions, or do I have to expand? blush.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-31 09:03:43
QUOTE(forza ton @ Dec 31 2008, 01:27 AM) [snapback]557451[/snapback]
stop trying tae sook in with the shed fannybaws. the votes are in. you have no f***ing shame laugh.gif .

Don't be ridiculous-I haven't even a clue who he is. I'm a standman, just like yourself!
mortonjag 2008-12-31 09:08:46
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Dec 31 2008, 09:05 AM) [snapback]557508[/snapback]
The shed v The Standman !!

Is that a PPV Wrestling event ?

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Penis Pump v Gravity! smile.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-31 09:19:13
QUOTE(Gashlad @ Dec 31 2008, 09:13 AM) [snapback]557513[/snapback]
I know about that first. I will bow down to your superior knowledge of the latter but I do have a question surrounding it.

Is the fact your ass and baws sag so much due to gravity tugging on them at 9.8 mps or just because your old ? rolleyes.gif

YES!
mortonjag 2008-12-31 09:22:43 Do any of you remember this wee chap?

[attachment=4976:th_smiffy.gif]


Whatever happened to him?
mortonjag 2008-12-31 09:34:33
QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Dec 31 2008, 02:22 AM) [snapback]557469[/snapback]
Who's all going where for it this year?

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Those of us who are fortunate enough have the option of welcoming the New Year in the comfort of our own homes!

mortonjag 2008-12-31 11:10:09
QUOTE(Tonsilitis @ Dec 31 2008, 10:24 AM) [snapback]557532[/snapback]
Irons seems to have a rule that if you make a major c*ck up in a game you are out the next game and have to fight for your place back. If the players know that's the rule and that it will be fairly applied then that would seem acceptable.

As it happens, Walker had a decent game albeit that Thistle did not offer much opposition and so Smith might be out for a bit or at least until Alex has a stinker!

On the same basis, I would'nt be surprised if Jenkins is warming the bench on Saturday!

I'd suggest that there is plenty of evidence to question that. Smith made one very serious error for which he has plainly been punished severely by the schoolmaster.

Newby APPARENTLY did the same at Dundee, though the schoolmaster was perhaps a wee bit harsh, and it sure bit him in the bum!!

I don't want to start bad mouthing individual players on the morning after an excellent victory, but there are others in the squad who regularly make serious blunders in EVERY game, and whose arses have not warmed the bench yet!

Mr Irons sure likes to have a scapegoat available. dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-31 11:18:19 Stewart was not really tested last night. I can't recall those wonderful saves he's supposed to have made. He got down late to his right to smother a half hit shot before half time. His kicking was woefully unsuccessful finding a Thistle player as often as one of ours and he flapped about the six yard box looking very nervous. On more than one occasion he put the central defence under pressure with his hallmark failing-staying glued to his line.

I know it's all about opinions. In mine, he's a bloody bombscare.
mortonjag 2008-12-31 11:21:27
QUOTE(The Naitch @ Dec 31 2008, 11:08 AM) [snapback]557571[/snapback]
Were you a politician in a previous life? smile.gif

Nope!
mortonjag 2008-12-31 11:28:31
QUOTE(Mr.Blue @ Dec 31 2008, 10:54 AM) [snapback]557550[/snapback]
The one aspect of our game that is non existent and has been for a long time is our ability to get down the line and put crosses into the box. Can think of one occasion this was done last night and Grady should've scored in the first half. We definitely need a couple of decent wingers, although give DI and Dc their dues as it seems that they recognize that this is not a strong part of our game and focus on other parts of the team. Maybe the transfer window will bring a winger or 2?

As for Peter, if he continues to put in performances like last night, he'll soon be in the good books again (for most). He just needs to be consistently good and we have one of the best forwards in the division.
roll on 2009

It seems-if rumours are to be believed-that we're about to sign yet another striker. If that is true it merely confirms that DI is utterly clueless!
mortonjag 2008-12-31 11:44:05
QUOTE(midTONs @ Dec 31 2008, 11:17 AM) [snapback]557586[/snapback]
I'll count myself out of this one if it's ok with you guys. Not that I'm not into to helping folk but I pay my house/contents insurance every month in case anything like this ever happens to me, if these people are insured then they will be fine, I know the risks of not having insurance and so should others.
That doesn't mean I don't have any sympathy for them as I do, some will have lost more than can ever be replaced but to give them hand outs because they are not insured sends out the signals for me.
**midtons crawls behind the couch to take cover**

There are FAR more serious disasters close to home on a daily basis. Sure-it's a nice gesture, but it's not going to help the Club in any way-at least half of them are probably not even TON supporters, and we desperately need the money. I suggest a bucket collection to buy a can of oil for the turnstyles-there's a start!
mortonjag 2008-12-31 16:49:11 It's very clear to me that Walker should be at right back and Smith restored to the left back position. DM did have a reasonable game last night, but he simply can't cope with wingers. I've said before, and don't mean it unkindly, that he's a complete footballer but not at First Division level.
mortonjag 2008-12-31 17:03:32
QUOTE(scotia morton @ Dec 31 2008, 01:27 PM) [snapback]557706[/snapback]
Glad to hear it MJ. Happy New Year

....and I wish you a Happy New Year too Scotia.

After last night's performance one could be excused for expecting us to beat the Doonhamers on Saturday.

Gordon Chisholm's side have gone through a horrendous spell of bad form, not helped by injuries and suspensions, but they are still potentially a dangerous side. We have to stay on the offensive.

As long as Spoonsy, and Grady continue to link well we've always the chance of some goals, but our options are still very limited.

We're looking very solid in central defence and our midfield is flexible enough to cope with any other club in the division. Irons seems to have got that right. If he accepts that it's the supply to our existing strikers that's our Achilles heel, we COULD become a promotion chasing outfit.

We need at least one half decent winger, with a competent overlapping full back on the other flank. That alone would make a HUGE difference IMO.

If we blow more money on this Elliot guy, it will merely confirm that Mr Irons is tactically clueless.
mortonjag 2008-12-31 17:10:48 Sounds like the ideal opportunity for Smiffy to prove his doubters wrong on Saturday-though I suspect he'll still be left in the corner with the dunce's cap on! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-31 17:14:01
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Dec 31 2008, 02:49 PM) [snapback]557757[/snapback]
Hes the fitness sport therapist guy whose been with us since last month .

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We'd be cheaper hiring a witch doctor and probably twice as effective. ph34r.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-31 17:31:27
QUOTE(Mr Toon @ Dec 31 2008, 12:13 PM) [snapback]557649[/snapback]
Yes, I've been watching Morton since the early '60s and apart from Andy I can't remember anyone who has posed the same threat. I'm sure one or other of the posters who are great on statistics will be looking at it already but Masterton's strike rate compared to Ritchie's will be interesting to follow over the seasons.




If big Andy was playing now, he'd create absolute mayhem. What he could achieve back in those days with a far less sophisticated football was nothing short of magic.

To quote Sir Alexander gum chower:


'Andy Ritchie was the bane of my life when I was at Aberdeen. He would continually score free kicks against us. So much so that we spent a whole week in training trying ways to defend....etc...


...we tried everything but two goalkeepers which unfortunately the rules did not allow'.

George Anderson remembers scoring nine or ten goals in one season-all headers off Andy's corners. He says that at long as he timed his run properly there was only one possible result.

So-back to the original post. Stevie undoubtedly gets more out of a dead ball situation than anyone we've seen at Cappielow for many years, but Ritchie was IMHO light years ahead of that nukimari guy. laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-31 17:48:47
QUOTE(simplyton @ Dec 31 2008, 10:26 AM) [snapback]557534[/snapback]
His goal was a perfect example of what can be achieved if we get a quality delivery into the box

PRECISELY!



What should he, DC and DDFR be doing to improve things then?

Signing players who will increase our options-that means NOT another bloody striker. dry.gif

QUOTE(GreacensGenitals @ Dec 31 2008, 01:19 PM) [snapback]557698[/snapback]
Very strongly disagree with that. I think we're desperately in need of another striker, as Wake and Russell are not high enough standard to progress in this league, IMO.

Even Grady, who has been showered with praise for lifting the team, seems to do very little when on the park, though service to him is admittedly poor.

We do need a new striker of similar quality to Weatherson.

We could do with one for sure, but it's about priorities. I'm brassed off with constant criticism of 'our strikers'. FFS man, the best gun in the world is useless without bloody bullets. LEAFY and WAKEY would knock in their fair share if chances were being created. Even last night Tuffey did not have one decent save to make. What does that tell you?

QUOTE(Colkitto @ Dec 31 2008, 01:50 PM) [snapback]557734[/snapback]
Most managers would die for a player like Weatherson (ref. McColls comments) and you would like to see him leave ! blink.gif

He is one of the best strikers in the league, I couldn't care what he did in the past. He is doing it on the pitch at present. That's good enough for me.

Where do we get a player of Weatherson's ability if he did leave ? And if he did leave as you suggest. I sure as fek wouldn't like to be playing against the team he is playing in.



Correct Sir, and if I require drastic life saving surgery and there's only one man capable of doing the op, I'm damned sure I'm not going to ask him what he does in his spare time.
mortonjag 2008-12-31 18:02:20
QUOTE(chrissiboi @ Dec 31 2008, 12:39 PM) [snapback]557670[/snapback]
Cuthbert in a straight choice but since Irons seems to say one thing and do another in the case of Smith by dropping him right out last night it will depend on how much blame Irons apportions to Cuthberts red card against the Nazi's whether Stewart keeps his place .

Having said that what a difference a year makes when we had 2 keepers who had the support divided as no one could decipher who was worse .

laugh.gif laugh.gif Very true, though I've heard he'll be back on Saturday provided he completes his hundred lines of


'I must not attempt to stop folk scoring goals'. dry.gif

QUOTE(ThornTON @ Dec 31 2008, 04:58 PM) [snapback]557809[/snapback]
Cuthbert, by a long way. The clean sheet doesn't tell the whole story, it was hearts in mouths time any time the ball went near Stewart last night.

I agree and am astonished that that was not obvious to all. He looked as nervous as a puppy on bonfire night.

QUOTE(piehutt @ Dec 31 2008, 05:43 PM) [snapback]557845[/snapback]
to be fair to Stewart he had the defense and central midfield pairing on top of him any time we were under a bit of pressure, and I suspect even Buffon would be rooted to his line for much of the game were this the case.

I think Stewart proved himself worthy of competing with Cuthbert for the no1 jersey - but I'd prob give it back to Cuthbert when available.

The only reviews I ever got of Colin Stewart were from a few Thistle fan's who hated him because Dick Campbell played him ahead of Kenny Arthur. Stewart was clearly under pressure from the fans and didn't play well.

A clear example of why players should always get full support when the manager picks them.



That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever Piehole. He's supposed to COMMAND his bloody box. I take it Big Stu and Dom were telling him to stay on his line with comments like 'don't you effin dare to come into our space'! laugh.gif laugh.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-31 18:08:50 Maybe Corky was really trying to say:



SPOONSY WAS, IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE A STRIKER!



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mortonjag 2008-12-31 18:28:30
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Dec 31 2008, 06:14 PM) [snapback]557881[/snapback]
They're not given cash or vouchers, they are taken on supervised shops to Tesco and the like. Some received as much as £500 worth of goods and kids were taken to funworld for the day. Good for the deserving, too bad it's abused by some.

I have, in my lifetime met perhaps half a dozen Social Workers who called it as it was. As a department Social Work is a bloody scourge on hard working taxpayers-a festering and self perpetuating carbuncle on the arse of decency and respectability.

Now-that's got f*ck all to do with me not feeling sympathy for the victims of that fire-I do-but it sounds like many of them must think they've 'won a watch'.

I hate politicians more than Social Workers-not a lot-but I definitely do! dry.gif
mortonjag 2008-12-31 18:36:18 I have never made a New Year's Resolution before. This time around it's going to be different. I've resolved to be much more assertive and not let others bully me. I have also decided to be much more tolerant of the illiterate, and to be less pompous and self satisfied, because it upsets those who can never attain my standards..
mortonjag 2008-12-31 18:52:52
QUOTE(vikingTON @ Dec 31 2008, 06:40 PM) [snapback]557901[/snapback]
I suggest you start by grasping the concepts of punctuation. blush.gif

Thank you-I promise to try very, very hard.
mortonjag 2008-12-31 19:02:04
QUOTE(David Edwards @ Dec 31 2008, 06:32 PM) [snapback]557895[/snapback]
Are they worse than Quacks then? laugh.gif

One can only fairly compare like with like Mr Edwards. As I already stated, I have met but a few Social Workers who admitted that 90% of the time they were dealing with scum. They still performed their duties in accordance with their contracts. For that I respected them.

Most Quacks are somewhat full of their own importance-perhaps the public should carry some blame for making them believe they do a worthwhile job.
mortonjag 2008-12-31 19:12:41 As usual in such situations we'll have the liberated brigade claiming that it doesn't matter what he wears provided he does a good job.

Teaching children involves setting standards for the young and impressionable. A teacher who deliberately flouts his employer's authority sets a bad example.

I wouldn't sack the misguided sod-a public pink botty caning at assembly would serve the general good far more effectively.
mortonjag 2008-12-31 19:27:57
QUOTE(capitanus @ Dec 31 2008, 07:22 PM) [snapback]557919[/snapback]
Now if it were a muslim woman wearing the hijab she'd given her job back or have got a good few grand to cushion the blow of being sacked.

I'd imagine so. I don't want to become embroiled in a heated debate, but Glasgow Polis with turbans look utterly ridiculous to me, and I believe, to most Glaswegians.
mortonjag 2008-12-31 19:38:47 He added: "We know Morton play a certain way and good luck to them, but I am very angry that they did us from two set-plays. We had four or five good chances and, on another night, it could have been different. We warned them about giving away daft fouls and it has cost us.


What McCall's saying is what every 1st Division manager must be saying too. Last night it came good for us but that hasn't always happened. We DESPERATELY need more options.