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Haven’t bought a strip in years (haven’t liked any of them enough) but will probably get this one although it’ll depend on the material etc. Not too keen on the 1874 thing though, looks a bit tacky.


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Haven’t bought a strip in years (haven’t liked any of them enough) but will probably get this one although it’ll depend on the material etc. Not too keen on the 1874 thing though, looks a bit tacky.

I don't like the way they use the 1874 thing on the tops but like that we use it.

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Haven’t bought a strip in years (haven’t liked any of them enough) but will probably get this one although it’ll depend on the material etc. Not too keen on the 1874 thing though, looks a bit tacky.

I agree. It's pure tat.

 

I wish we would get a proper kit deal and merchandise like other clubs. This has gone on long enough, the novelty has worn off.


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We’ve got two ambulance chasers running our account.

Who is the other one?


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Who is the other one?

Assuming you’ve got Callum down as the first one, Dave MacKinnon.

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Assuming you’ve got Callum down as the first one, Dave MacKinnon.

Maybe a tad harsh, time will tell but you could well be right, something about him doesn't ring true with me.

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Assuming you’ve got Callum down as the first one, Dave MacKinnon.

I thought you two were mates now :lol:


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I thought you two were mates now :lol:

 

I get on okay with him, and he's been good to me with tickets for away games. He does like an NHS logo though.

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I get on okay with him, and he's been good to me with tickets for away games. He does like an NHS logo though.

Fair enough.

 

It could be a whole load worse, check the fucking nick of this:

 

https://ptfc.co.uk/ptfc-news/thistle-thank-nhs-scotland-with-limited-edition-charity-t-shirt/

 

It's not like them to jump on a populist pc-friendly flavour-of-the-month bandwagon, is it?

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Fair enough.

 

It could be a whole load worse, check the fucking nick of this:

 

https://ptfc.co.uk/ptfc-news/thistle-thank-nhs-scotland-with-limited-edition-charity-t-shirt/

 

It's not like them to jump on a populist pc-friendly flavour-of-the-month bandwagon, is it?

Aye, fuck being that lot.

 

Should also note that he’s faced his problems head on since arriving and has always had an open door to supporters, unlike his predecessor who hid behind letters threatening bans to fans that hadn’t even been arrested, let alone convicted of any crimes, took a holiday to coincide with the club’s AGM and phoned in sick the day the shit hit the fan with Johansson and Houston. As well as that, MacKinnon put Scott Gardiner at Inverness firmly in his box.

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Fair enough.

 

It could be a whole load worse, check the fucking nick of this:

 

https://ptfc.co.uk/ptfc-news/thistle-thank-nhs-scotland-with-limited-edition-charity-t-shirt/

 

It's not like them to jump on a populist pc-friendly flavour-of-the-month bandwagon, is it?

 

Unbelievable!!  If they had said that all profits would be donated to the NHS I'd have said fair play to they them but the fact they're making money off this as well is shameless.  I thought their hijacking of the LGBTQ rainbow flag to sell shirts was bad but this is something else!


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Careful not to point out that they're a bunch of ambulance chasers, or you'll be branded homophobic.

 

Rotten club. 


TIME FOR CHANGE!

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Unbelievable!!  If they had said that all profits would be donated to the NHS I'd have said fair play to they them but the fact they're making money off this as well is shameless.  I thought their hijacking of the LGBTQ rainbow flag to sell shirts was bad but this is something else!

The NHS isn't a charity, it is well funded by taxpayers and there are literally hundreds of bona fide charities out there struggling as all these goody-goody types are 'raising funds' for the NHS at the moment.


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The NHS isn't a charity, it is well funded by taxpayers and there are literally hundreds of bona fide charities out there struggling as all these goody-goody types are 'raising funds' for the NHS at the moment.

 

People actually think the money they are donating is going straight to the running of the NHS for things like PPE.

 

It all goes to NHS Charities together and is then distributed around the various Charities within each trust.

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I agree. It's pure tat.

 

I wish we would get a proper kit deal and merchandise like other clubs. This has gone on long enough, the novelty has worn off.

Proper kit manufacturers won't be offering us anything more than a straight from the catalogue shanner of an effort. It's good to have a classic home top instead of the trying way too hard efforts in recent years and if it's the same quality as the Argentina-style retro one then I'll have no complaints.

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The site is supposed to be a place for the extended 'family' of Morton supporters - having an affinity with people that you don't know, because you share a love of your local football club. It's not supposed to be about point scoring and showing how 'clever' or 'funny' you are, or just being downright rude and offensive to people you don't know, because you can get away with it. Unfortunately, it seems the classic case of people who have little standing/presence in real life, use this forum as a way of making themselves feel as if they are something. It's sad, and I've said that before..

 

So, having been on Morton forums for about 15 years I guess, I've had enough... well done t*ssers, another Morton supporter driven away. You can all feel happy at how 'clever' you are

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Proper kit manufacturers won't be offering us anything more than a straight from the catalogue shanner of an effort. It's good to have a classic home top instead of the trying way too hard efforts in recent years and if it's the same quality as the Argentina-style retro one then I'll have no complaints.

I am glad that we are spared another of Pedrodelawasp's efforts from a kids colouring competition, but there are firms out there who specialise in making kits for SME Football clubs like ourselves and some of the off the peg catalogue efforts would spare us the embarrassment of having EST.1874 instead of a reputable kit manufacturer.


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I am glad that we are spared another of Pedrodelawasp's efforts from a kids colouring competition, but there are firms out there who specialise in making kits for SME Football clubs like ourselves and some of the off the peg catalogue efforts would spare us the embarrassment of having EST.1874 instead of a reputable kit manufacturer.

Think his crayons helped designed it, just without having to kill the dreams of children in the process.

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Think his crayons helped designed it, just without having to kill the dreams of children in the process.

Myself and Gavin were invited to submit concepts last September then got together with the manufacturer, MacKinnon and Keith from Smiths to go through these and combine elements to make up the final design.

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Some guy from Smiths has the final say on what the end product is?

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It’s also been discussed at meetings that this approach is more cost effective in terms of the team wear and merchandise than the previous setup using Puma and Nike catalogue items. Neither of those manufacturers sell directly to clubs outside of their high ticket customers, instead selling licenses to smaller firms to produce their team wear selections. Clubs then choose from the catalogue and pay per item for customisation.

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It’s also been discussed at meetings that this approach is more cost effective in terms of the team wear and merchandise than the previous setup using Puma and Nike catalogue items. Neither of those manufacturers sell directly to clubs outside of their high ticket customers, instead selling licenses to smaller firms to produce their team wear selections. Clubs then choose from the catalogue and pay per item for customisation.

Yet almost every other team in Scotland orders from a team wear company and gets a decent manufacturer.

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Yet almost every other team in Scotland orders from a team wear company and gets a decent manufacturer.

And most have an off the shelf design. If we get our own bespoke kits and the quality is decent I don't see the problem.

 

The design competitions have probably run their course but resulted in increased sales and good fan engagement. If the supplier used is now working closely with the club and there's a decent profit margin then why change for the sake of a brand name being on a top? Its not like fans of other teams will be buying them from a Nike shop or something.

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And most have an off the shelf design. If we get our own bespoke kits and the quality is decent I don't see the problem.

 

The design competitions have probably run their course but resulted in increased sales and good fan engagement. If the supplier used is now working closely with the club and there's a decent profit margin then why change for the sake of a brand name being on a top? Its not like fans of other teams will be buying them from a Nike shop or something.

Aye, pretty much agree with this, and vT’s point about the 95/96 retro top is also valid. No complaints about that at all. I suppose most of us are a bit older and having a Nike swoosh on the kit isn’t that much of an issue- it might be worth asking younger fans their opinions on it though.

 

The Puma gear, whilst off the shelf, was okay, with the exception of the last home kit, which was a bit shit. One of only two Morton tops I haven’t bought in the last 25 years or so. The quality of the Nike gear, and the iron-on badges, was basically a show of the contempt that Donaldson showed for the paying punters. Basically if you stick a Morton badge on something these mugs’ll cough up.

 

The current suppliers Vision, whilst relatively unknown have also been better than Vandanel or Bukta ever were, too. Wasn’t really a fan of the last home shirt, but it was the winner of a fans’ vote, so a bit harsh to hammer them for giving folk what they want.

 

I should mention that MacKinnon said to me when we met after the Twitter fiasco that they’re paying a pound more per unit for the kits now than previously, as Hawke (whom he didn’t mention by name) didn’t see the value in that. His point was that he reckons they’re as well giving us a superior product in the hope that it sells more. Obviously a while has passed since then, and that may no longer be the case, but if it is, I’d hope he’s public about that instead of keeping it between a couple of guys in a private meeting.

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Yet almost every other team in Scotland orders from a team wear company and gets a decent manufacturer.

I’m sure it will suit many teams to go that route. If they can expect a higher volume of sales their outlay on stock will be larger and the unit price reduced (e.g. Aberdeen and Hearts purchasing Adidas kits). Joma and Macron have expanded their client base in Scotland offering standard template kits for the most part, as well as a handful given an element of customisation (Motherwell, Hibs and Ross County spring to mind).

 

Morton’s current approach came about after a Nike catalogue number (and a poor choice of sponsor from the Golden Casket group) was resoundingly turned on by the support. The four subsequent kits have sold in greater numbers than any of the previous offerings for over 15 years (I have to say this is anecdotal, I can’t give any detailed sales figures).

 

I’m thick skinned enough to hear criticism of the designs I’ve been involved with. I’m not the manufacturer so any complaints over the relative quality, finish, etc. aren’t for me to answer or comment on. If anybody believes that fans shouldn’t be involved in the design process (or me as an individual for that matter) then I would encourage them to forward their issues to the club.

 

From my perspective, I’m both a fan of the club and what you could describe as a keen graphic design hobbyist with (very) occasional paid commissions in the field, though not from Morton. I’ve enjoyed contributing and seeing the team and supporters wearing the designs I’ve worked on. The latest away kit didn’t turn out quite how I had hoped, with changes made to simplify and reduce manufacturing cost, though I do like the fit and feel of it, particularly with the introduction of the ribbed collar and cuffs.

 

I really like how this kit looks in the renders and am absolutely behind Gavin’s contributions (plus he’s one of the nicest guys you could ever wish to meet).

 

TLDR? No worries.

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