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4 hours ago, capitanus said:
I think the 'reporting of numbers' reason for refusing entry is a far fetched one, to be honest. If that is ever given as a reason, it would reek of 'clutching at straws'. Your mate had a valid ticket and he turned up late, the reason for his late arrival is his business and he shouldn't need to justify himself to a fucking football steward. It's not as though opening a gate and letting him in would require a big effort and given the circumstances would have been the decent thing to do. He wouldn't be disrupting the game and would very unlikely be disrupting anyone elses enjoyment of the game.
I often run late when i'm going to a game, and I recall two instances during Douglas Rae's era when I once was late I was let in for half price as I missed most of the first half; and another time I was let in for free as I arrived and we were 3-0 down. A few times I'd arrived and had to go in via the stand and go through the gates to the Sinclair Street end. None were a big deal for the stewarding staff concerned.
All of this seems to be night and day compared to what we're reading about what people are experiencing nowadays. YET the club is FAN owned. It's not owned by an obnoxious cow of a Head Steward.
The only possible justification I can think of (and this is a real stretch) is that the away turnstiles at the WDE were closed, so he had to turn up at the main stand entrance, so as an away fan, would (not really) have needed escorting up the stairs and through an empty corridor to the away end of the main stand, which would have required taking a steward from their position. We are, of course talking about escorting a middle aged man who has paid a not inconsiderable sum of money to be entertained, not a Category A prisoner.
Unfortunately for the head steward though, things come up and now and again you have to juggle your pack. It’s called management, something she’s clearly not capable of, or not prepared to do.
So instead of opening the gate and inconveniencing one or a couple of her team for the best part of three minutes, she’s cost the club his £22 entry fee, upset both him and a regular Morton fan with her conduct, given the club’s admin staff and General Manager a headache to appease said upset fans, and seen the tale dragged onto social media.
I hope it was worth it.
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It’s a bit of a nuisance to quote and reply to everyone on this, but I just can’t accept the point about reporting the ground at a certain percentage of capacity at a certain point after kick off.
We’re well past the stage of folk turning up on the day and handing over £20 and walking through now. Every purchased ticket is recorded and the club know how many people at a maximum will be in the ground at kick off time going by those sales, with stewarding numbers arranged in advance.
I remember Dave MacKinnon telling me of similar instances of people who were knocked back, if turning up late from work, when he made his grovelling apology over his (alleged) drunken blocking me from the club’s Twitter, and telling me they were working on fixing it, yet four years down the line, and under a more efficient management structure, we’re at the same place with the same security firm.
Ronnie’s point about picking on easy targets strikes a chord here, for me. Like they’re happy to pick on a grandfather and his grandson instead of getting right in the middle of the shed at its most wild, they’ve found an away fan that they think will eventually forget about the issue and move on, not knowing that his mate is in fact a Morton fan who will cling onto this like a dug with a bone.
I’d expect if questioned, the first defence to be that he was drunk. He wasn’t, I met him outside the Norseman at full time, by which point he’d had plenty of unexpected time in the boozer and was completely sober.
Ironically, reading Paul’s post- the guy is a medical professional, who has before found himself in situations similar to what Paul’s painted at games elsewhere, forcing him to turn up later, and been admitted. You wouldn’t know to look at him, though. Not that the head steward did, of course. She denied him admission from the other end of a walkie-talkie, leaving her subordinate to confront him, like the coward she is.
With my pal included in my email trail, we received a reply from Alistair, who asked for his details to process the refund and advising that it had been forwarded to Dale. Given that I addressed the original mail to Dale and asked for his thoughts on the matter, I’m a bit disappointed that having sent it on Wednesday night, I’ve not heard a thing from him. While I feel that addressing the treatment of wronged customers should be a matter that’s treated with the utmost priority, I’m prepared to give the benefit of the doubt for now, given how busy a week this is with the Hearts game coming up, but Morton have got two extremely unhappy paying customers, here. And one of them is a very regular one.
The tail is wagging the dog with this security firm, and Morton really have to be letting them know that their behaviour, and that of certain individual employees, can’t go on as it is.
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21 hours ago, The Bewilderedbeast said:When I complained about said female steward telling me to take my grandson off the barrier with 89 and a half minutes gone, a club employee told me that the ground was "signed over" to the stewarding company until approximately an hour after the game was completed, and that therefore the stewarding were responsible for the stadium and that GMFC were not.
He further stated that this was one of the most frequent scenarios he encountered, people (including ST holders) turning up late, for whatever reason, and being refused entry by stewards. He said he often got phone calls from folk in this situation asking to get in, but given that the stewards were "in charge of the stadium" there was nothing he could do.
TBH I didn't believe him at the time, but this adds a bit of truth to that now.
It's something that I'll be raising at the QandA session with the board later in the month.
I don’t doubt what you’ve said is true, and fair enough if that’s how the contract with the security company works.
But that doesn’t justify their staff being rude and obstructive to paying customers, and their performance as a subcontractor, and the performance of their staff has to come under some form of regular review, even if things are going well. And given the amount of complaints from various different people, the performance of their staff simply isn’t up to scratch.
My mate had bought ten tickets for him and all his pals, so couldn’t be refunded for his individual ticket immediately, but after I emailed the club and included him in the email, they’ve taken his details and will process his refund this week, although he and I are still waiting to hear the thoughts of the General Manager about the issues I raised.
Good enough of the club to refund him for his ticket, but we now have this woman costing the club his £22 because of her attitude. How often do things like this happen? Can Morton afford to just throw money away because someone who is working on the club’s behalf has an attitude problem?
As a club for whom it’s common knowledge that every penny is prisoner, it is negligent in the extreme not to thoroughly investigate the behaviour of someone who is working on their behalf actively driving paying customers away.
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A pal of mine who supports Dundee United was denied entry last night because he was late in turning up at the ground.
Not that it should need explaining, but when in the Norseman he had to deal with a phone call that was a bit of a family emergency, and by the time he got round to leaving to go to the ground, the gates were all locked.
He approached a steward to see if he could gain entry to the ground and the steward radioed his supervisor, who said under no circumstances would he be allowed in, despite having no idea of the circumstances surrounding his late arrival, and the fact that he had bought a valid match ticket.
It will come as no surprise that he described the supervisor on the other end of the radio as female and “very aggressive” in her tone. Said supervisor did not, of course, attend the scene in person to explain why my pal wouldn’t be getting in.
I understand there may be a cut off point to get entry to a game, but to be told that “under no circumstances” will he be permitted entry, is completely unacceptable imho. People encounter issues in their day-to-day lives, being treated like that be someone whose job role is customer service shouldn't happen, and was an embarrassment to me when he told me how my club were treating him.
I doubt it’ll take much joining up of dots to establish who the female supervisor is, and I’m 99.99% sure that it was the same woman who we constantly complain about on here.
It’s about time she lost her job.
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I expect the club will announce a stream later this afternoon, in order to have little impact as possible on the crowd.
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Just give him his red dot and move on. There’s little point engaging with him. With any luck he’ll get bored with the attention seeking and either try to contribute something worthwhile, or better still, chuck it completely.
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42 minutes ago, The Bewilderedbeast said:Anyone know why GBR and Big Chris can no longer show video footage.
Is it an SFA or Club decision?
Hopefully it’s the SPFL clamping down on tadgers like that Blair McNally cashing in on their product without permission.
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9 minutes ago, The Bewilderedbeast said:
What they should then outlaw is the keeper then being allowed to immediately catch, or pick the ball up. He should have to play it with his feet.
They did it with pass backs, too easy for a defender to go down holding his head knowing that his keeper will ultimately be in possession with the ball in hand.
Drop balls are unchallenged now anyway, which is a nonsense imho, so it wouldn’t make a great deal of difference anyway.
With the back pass law introduced in 1992, there isn’t an active goalkeeper who played before its introduction so they’re all comfortable enough anyway.
What I would say is that Inverness spotted a weakness in the referee and played on it. Referees are possibly under a bit more pressure over head knocks just now after one of (not even the latest of) David Munro’s catalogue of 2023-24 monumental fuck ups when he didn’t stop play to allow treatment for Michael Mellon’s head injury in the recent Dundee v St. Johnstone game, when the injury turned out to be serious after hems told the players to get on with it.
That however, doesn’t mean that he shouldn’t have been stronger with them going down constantly to disrupt the flow of the game- as was emphasised in the second half when Samuel went down to receive treatment for a lengthy period only for them to replace his strike partner McKay a couple of minutes later. Had Samuel really been in any discomfort, there’s no way McKay would have been withdrawn.
We were out-shitfested by Inverness, but so too was an incredibly weak official.
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8 hours ago, tonnick said:
To continue the biblical theme Carragher just before HT went down with a head wound apparently severe enough for the ref to halt play. Someone must've said something or had a sly dig and he miraculously springs to his feet sparking a stramache lasting several minutes, headache all gone happily for him. The ref restarts giving possession to ICT when we were attacking. Sums up the game for me.
A drop ball inside the penalty box always goes to the defending team’s goalkeeper. We questioned it at the time but my mate checked up on the rule at half time as he thought that might have been the case.
Much as the referee was extremely weak, lost control of the game early and allowed Danny Devine to referee the game for him, he was correct in this instance.
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4 minutes ago, Madton said:
If that is the case, brilliant. Just remember someone mentioned it after Motherwell game.
Aye, it was me. But Boogs corrected me. Three bookings for a suspension.
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20 hours ago, TONofmemories said:I see on twitter their fans aren't happy about the forums match preview, particularly about them spending big.
Great work all involved.
Rancid wee club who've gotten way above their station of late.
Haha. Aye, I was quite please with that. The boy calling me bitter and unprofessional was a belter- I write for a fans’ website because my pal runs it, not for FourFourTwo.
Perhaps the Raith fans could look a bit closer to home when seeking examples of unprofessional content being published online.
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Aye, Blues was absolutely outstanding yesterday, although I’d say we’re now well beyond the stage of him being a target of any boo boys, unless I’m just fortunate with where I stand at Cappielow.
On another note, probably the last time I can remember Morton’s administrative side being described as incompetent and “typical Morton” was around the time they apparently made an arse of Nadir Çiftçi’s work permit application.
Looking back, if we’d been successful with that, we’d probably never have seen George Oakley at Morton. That’s some silver lining.
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There’s something about that Jack McMillan that I can’t go. Could be the nicest bloke in the world, but he strikes me as a complete helmet.
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54 minutes ago, Scott said:
Imagine the outrage from those Fifers if a Morton player made that challenge on one of their own.
Indeed. After their whining over our tactics on the second day of the season, David Munro-show, a game in which Hamilton was lucky to last longer than half an hour, it’s quite a turnaround to see their inbred mob lapping this stuff up.
For all Morton’s faults with social media down the years, I can’t remember a time that the club’s official channels have deliberately gone down the route of antagonising other clubs. Fair enough a website like this doing it, but official accounts should rise above that.
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The latest contribution from Raith’s social media team today…
https://x.com/raithrovers/status/1759147611783569574?s=46&t=mPi-CBP2m1lKxRNMQCkJuA
Dougie’s already hinted that he’s not happy with certain clubs’ behaviour towards us, I suspect they’re top of the list. I doubt he’s allowed me in feeling that way.
Hopefully it blows up on them.
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Ross Forbes scored in Thorniewood’s 3-0 win over Rutherglen Glencairn.
Of course he did.
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How does everyone see this? Funny or unprofessional?
Different if it were to come from an unofficial fans’ site, I certainly wouldn’t want Morton getting involved in shite like this, especially when you see how the Partick fans who were in hospitality go on about what Allan Moore allegedly said 11 years ago.
If Raith fail to win promotion, as I sincerely hope they do, there are going to be a lot of sticks left lying around for fans of other clubs to beat them with.
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It was open and free last time, with entry via the Mount Florida end, although that could have been due to the flooding in Aitkenhead Road.
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George Oakley’s the star man in the SPFL’s team of the week again.
Coming close to reaching Ross Forbes levels of immortality, is there anything this man can’t do?
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Scottish-born Republic of Ireland international Aiden McGeady, whose Ayr United team has collected a quite incredible zero points against Scotland’s form side, dropping six of them before Morton hit their incredible run of form, is the latest to criticise Morton’s all conquering style of play.
Get it right fucking up him.
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22 minutes ago, Hej said:
Do you think they'll give season ticket holders first option for tickets, or a free for all?
Don’t know if they’d be able to do that with Fanbase, but they certainly should do everything they can to make sure that happens.
With capacity reduced the way it was for Motherwell, this is probably the most in-demand game at Cappielow since 1996.
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It also means that our league game at Ayr on 9th March will be re-arranged.
With all the quarter final games televised, I’d be hoping to avoid the Friday night slot, as we play Dundee United at home on Tuesday 5th of March.
I know there’s no real difference in reality between playing Tuesday/Friday and Wednesday/Saturday but I do feel there can be something psychological about playing what could be perceived as two midweek games.
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Don’t want to piss on anyone’s chips, but I haven’t seen it mentioned yet that Strapp will miss the quarter final through suspension.
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