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18 hours ago, The Bewilderedbeast said:
He was found not guilty
*Not proven.
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Throw in a potential, but unlikely play-off campaign which in the best case scenario could stretch to six games that aren’t on the season ticket and then take into consideration that this is the first summer in a generation that a lot of the support are keeping every penny for a trip to a major tournament and I can see the club forced into a bit of an embarrassing climb-down on this.
These things aren’t really my scene now I’m a bit older, and I didn’t attend last year but that event seemed quite popular with a lot of the support- although I seem to recall criticising the price at the time. I saw someone saying the price has doubled this year! If it was a free bar you could maybe understand, but it doesn’t sit easy that a fan-owned club is pricing out the rank-and-file for what should night of mutual appreciation for everyone’s efforts.
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7 minutes ago, The Bewilderedbeast said:
They seem to he happy to deal with non issues, but as we discussed on here a couple of times, they seem to home in on easy targets.
It's almost like they have "to deal with SOMETHING " to justify their existence and the more mundane that something is the better they like it.
Aye, there couldn’t have been enough weans standing at the front of the Sinclair Street end yesterday to keep them busy.
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1 minute ago, The Bewilderedbeast said:
What was their gripe with the flag?
So far as I made out, they hadn’t played with the stewards that the message on it wasn’t offensive and asked permission to display it.
You’ll just about make out from my photo that there’s a skull with a couple of crossed swords, and the badges of Reggiana and Morton. Really nothing to get bothered about in the slightest, whlie they were nowhere to be seen as the pyro was getting set off against Hearts the other week (not that I really object to the young team using that).
It was a mountain out of a molehill. I get that it might appear that I’m probably over-egging the significance of this, but I think it’s important that every minor issue is raised on here, so as to provide an easy reference point of all the security company’s failings and wrong-doings.
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On 1/27/2024 at 8:07 PM, Toby said:There’s been plenty of moans about her for years now, and after every incident that garners a bit of attention, you walk out onto Sinclair Street at full time to see her smiling face wishing you a nice weekend. It’s become a recurring joke between my mates and I that she must’ve had her knuckles rapped for her carry on at the previous home game, before she goes back to arsehole mode a fortnight later.
There was more of this yesterday, and hardly a coincidence that it comes a couple of days after the General Manager admits to having a tense discussion with the security company.
No point in smiling, waving folk off and wishing them a happy weekend when she’ll be behaving like a little Hitler next week because it’s ingrained in her and she can’t help herself. Just own your behaviour and get a job that you’re more suited to- i.e. one that doesn’t involve working with the general public.
That’s the positives though. The negative was their stupid insistence on giving the visiting Reggiana fans who turned up for the first time in a good while a hard time for putting up a flag that was no more than 2x3ft in size up.
Bureaucracy over common sense as usual. You’d think most football clubs would welcome visitors like them with open arms, yet at Cappielow you’ve got guys on radios making a fuss about the most trivial issues when they should in fact be there to make the experience of going to a football match as pleasant as they can for paying customers.
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19 minutes ago, DaftTon74 said:what ever happened to “the cowshed” btw? Do they only turn up for big games?
A lot of boys probably still over in Amsterdam for the Scotland game, in fairness.
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While you do in theory have to provide the same discount for away fans, that’s where multi-game offers are the way forward, and to be fair to the club, they did offer this for the four games from Airdrie until next week’s game against Queen’s Park.
My only criticism of that would be that the Airdrie game came just before the end of the month, when many folk are typically paid, so shelling out £70-odd for a modest discount just before your wages come in isn’t always ideal.
Doing a monthly deal might be an idea- if there are two home games in a month, offer a £40 ticket and if there are three do one for £60.
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6 hours ago, The Bewilderedbeast said:Something similar was suggested, Dale pointed out that if the club offers discounts then the same deal HAS (by law) to be offered to all supporters, home and away throughout the season.
As he said, if they do that then the club would be basically giving money away.
The question of stewarding also came up. Dale said that he and the head of the stewarding company had, what he described as a "tense" meeting on Tuesday and several issues had been raised.
He confirmed that things, which had previously gone on, would no longer be going on. He didn't elaborate on what these things are or were. Though, I'd imagine that the issue of people being denied entry if they turned up late would be one of them.
He also acknowledged that if someone was approached aggressively then they themselves would become aggressive in return.
The club have purchased a 2 bedroom flat in Dunlop St for the use of players on the basis that a new signing can be offered accommodation as part of their contract (Jordan Davis springs to mind). This means the flat is a club owned asset and there are no outgoing such as rent etc.
All in all I thought it was a fairly positive meeting, and to boot I learned a new word.....Organigram.
Can’t say I’m not disappointed with the club’s lack of a response to my complaint about this.
I’ve not spoken to my mate since the weekend, but to my knowledge he’s not heard anything from the club beyond his refund, which I assume he received.
And given that the complaint came from myself, neither have I since the admin boy, Alistair told me he had passed on my complaint to the General Manager.
I don’t think that just giving a refund with no explanation or apology to my pal, or reassurance to me that an investigation is taking place is enough, to be honest.
I was prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt for not replying immediately because everyone inside the club would have been busy in the lead up to the Hearts game, but hearing nothing two weeks after making a valid complaint, and a week and a half after the big event that consumed their focus is poor.
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Big game for San Marino against St. Kitts and Nevis in Serravalle this evening.
Tonight’s the night.
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Allan Moore takes over as manager of Camelon Juniors.
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14 minutes ago, TONofmemories said:
The fat coonilor is a complete irrelevance anyway.
*Ex-councillor.
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4 hours ago, capitanus said:
I think the 'reporting of numbers' reason for refusing entry is a far fetched one, to be honest. If that is ever given as a reason, it would reek of 'clutching at straws'. Your mate had a valid ticket and he turned up late, the reason for his late arrival is his business and he shouldn't need to justify himself to a fucking football steward. It's not as though opening a gate and letting him in would require a big effort and given the circumstances would have been the decent thing to do. He wouldn't be disrupting the game and would very unlikely be disrupting anyone elses enjoyment of the game.
I often run late when i'm going to a game, and I recall two instances during Douglas Rae's era when I once was late I was let in for half price as I missed most of the first half; and another time I was let in for free as I arrived and we were 3-0 down. A few times I'd arrived and had to go in via the stand and go through the gates to the Sinclair Street end. None were a big deal for the stewarding staff concerned.
All of this seems to be night and day compared to what we're reading about what people are experiencing nowadays. YET the club is FAN owned. It's not owned by an obnoxious cow of a Head Steward.
The only possible justification I can think of (and this is a real stretch) is that the away turnstiles at the WDE were closed, so he had to turn up at the main stand entrance, so as an away fan, would (not really) have needed escorting up the stairs and through an empty corridor to the away end of the main stand, which would have required taking a steward from their position. We are, of course talking about escorting a middle aged man who has paid a not inconsiderable sum of money to be entertained, not a Category A prisoner.
Unfortunately for the head steward though, things come up and now and again you have to juggle your pack. It’s called management, something she’s clearly not capable of, or not prepared to do.
So instead of opening the gate and inconveniencing one or a couple of her team for the best part of three minutes, she’s cost the club his £22 entry fee, upset both him and a regular Morton fan with her conduct, given the club’s admin staff and General Manager a headache to appease said upset fans, and seen the tale dragged onto social media.
I hope it was worth it.
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It’s a bit of a nuisance to quote and reply to everyone on this, but I just can’t accept the point about reporting the ground at a certain percentage of capacity at a certain point after kick off.
We’re well past the stage of folk turning up on the day and handing over £20 and walking through now. Every purchased ticket is recorded and the club know how many people at a maximum will be in the ground at kick off time going by those sales, with stewarding numbers arranged in advance.
I remember Dave MacKinnon telling me of similar instances of people who were knocked back, if turning up late from work, when he made his grovelling apology over his (alleged) drunken blocking me from the club’s Twitter, and telling me they were working on fixing it, yet four years down the line, and under a more efficient management structure, we’re at the same place with the same security firm.
Ronnie’s point about picking on easy targets strikes a chord here, for me. Like they’re happy to pick on a grandfather and his grandson instead of getting right in the middle of the shed at its most wild, they’ve found an away fan that they think will eventually forget about the issue and move on, not knowing that his mate is in fact a Morton fan who will cling onto this like a dug with a bone.
I’d expect if questioned, the first defence to be that he was drunk. He wasn’t, I met him outside the Norseman at full time, by which point he’d had plenty of unexpected time in the boozer and was completely sober.
Ironically, reading Paul’s post- the guy is a medical professional, who has before found himself in situations similar to what Paul’s painted at games elsewhere, forcing him to turn up later, and been admitted. You wouldn’t know to look at him, though. Not that the head steward did, of course. She denied him admission from the other end of a walkie-talkie, leaving her subordinate to confront him, like the coward she is.
With my pal included in my email trail, we received a reply from Alistair, who asked for his details to process the refund and advising that it had been forwarded to Dale. Given that I addressed the original mail to Dale and asked for his thoughts on the matter, I’m a bit disappointed that having sent it on Wednesday night, I’ve not heard a thing from him. While I feel that addressing the treatment of wronged customers should be a matter that’s treated with the utmost priority, I’m prepared to give the benefit of the doubt for now, given how busy a week this is with the Hearts game coming up, but Morton have got two extremely unhappy paying customers, here. And one of them is a very regular one.
The tail is wagging the dog with this security firm, and Morton really have to be letting them know that their behaviour, and that of certain individual employees, can’t go on as it is.
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21 hours ago, The Bewilderedbeast said:When I complained about said female steward telling me to take my grandson off the barrier with 89 and a half minutes gone, a club employee told me that the ground was "signed over" to the stewarding company until approximately an hour after the game was completed, and that therefore the stewarding were responsible for the stadium and that GMFC were not.
He further stated that this was one of the most frequent scenarios he encountered, people (including ST holders) turning up late, for whatever reason, and being refused entry by stewards. He said he often got phone calls from folk in this situation asking to get in, but given that the stewards were "in charge of the stadium" there was nothing he could do.
TBH I didn't believe him at the time, but this adds a bit of truth to that now.
It's something that I'll be raising at the QandA session with the board later in the month.
I don’t doubt what you’ve said is true, and fair enough if that’s how the contract with the security company works.
But that doesn’t justify their staff being rude and obstructive to paying customers, and their performance as a subcontractor, and the performance of their staff has to come under some form of regular review, even if things are going well. And given the amount of complaints from various different people, the performance of their staff simply isn’t up to scratch.
My mate had bought ten tickets for him and all his pals, so couldn’t be refunded for his individual ticket immediately, but after I emailed the club and included him in the email, they’ve taken his details and will process his refund this week, although he and I are still waiting to hear the thoughts of the General Manager about the issues I raised.
Good enough of the club to refund him for his ticket, but we now have this woman costing the club his £22 because of her attitude. How often do things like this happen? Can Morton afford to just throw money away because someone who is working on the club’s behalf has an attitude problem?
As a club for whom it’s common knowledge that every penny is prisoner, it is negligent in the extreme not to thoroughly investigate the behaviour of someone who is working on their behalf actively driving paying customers away.
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A pal of mine who supports Dundee United was denied entry last night because he was late in turning up at the ground.
Not that it should need explaining, but when in the Norseman he had to deal with a phone call that was a bit of a family emergency, and by the time he got round to leaving to go to the ground, the gates were all locked.
He approached a steward to see if he could gain entry to the ground and the steward radioed his supervisor, who said under no circumstances would he be allowed in, despite having no idea of the circumstances surrounding his late arrival, and the fact that he had bought a valid match ticket.
It will come as no surprise that he described the supervisor on the other end of the radio as female and “very aggressive” in her tone. Said supervisor did not, of course, attend the scene in person to explain why my pal wouldn’t be getting in.
I understand there may be a cut off point to get entry to a game, but to be told that “under no circumstances” will he be permitted entry, is completely unacceptable imho. People encounter issues in their day-to-day lives, being treated like that be someone whose job role is customer service shouldn't happen, and was an embarrassment to me when he told me how my club were treating him.
I doubt it’ll take much joining up of dots to establish who the female supervisor is, and I’m 99.99% sure that it was the same woman who we constantly complain about on here.
It’s about time she lost her job.
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I expect the club will announce a stream later this afternoon, in order to have little impact as possible on the crowd.
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Just give him his red dot and move on. There’s little point engaging with him. With any luck he’ll get bored with the attention seeking and either try to contribute something worthwhile, or better still, chuck it completely.
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42 minutes ago, The Bewilderedbeast said:Anyone know why GBR and Big Chris can no longer show video footage.
Is it an SFA or Club decision?
Hopefully it’s the SPFL clamping down on tadgers like that Blair McNally cashing in on their product without permission.
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9 minutes ago, The Bewilderedbeast said:
What they should then outlaw is the keeper then being allowed to immediately catch, or pick the ball up. He should have to play it with his feet.
They did it with pass backs, too easy for a defender to go down holding his head knowing that his keeper will ultimately be in possession with the ball in hand.
Drop balls are unchallenged now anyway, which is a nonsense imho, so it wouldn’t make a great deal of difference anyway.
With the back pass law introduced in 1992, there isn’t an active goalkeeper who played before its introduction so they’re all comfortable enough anyway.
What I would say is that Inverness spotted a weakness in the referee and played on it. Referees are possibly under a bit more pressure over head knocks just now after one of (not even the latest of) David Munro’s catalogue of 2023-24 monumental fuck ups when he didn’t stop play to allow treatment for Michael Mellon’s head injury in the recent Dundee v St. Johnstone game, when the injury turned out to be serious after hems told the players to get on with it.
That however, doesn’t mean that he shouldn’t have been stronger with them going down constantly to disrupt the flow of the game- as was emphasised in the second half when Samuel went down to receive treatment for a lengthy period only for them to replace his strike partner McKay a couple of minutes later. Had Samuel really been in any discomfort, there’s no way McKay would have been withdrawn.
We were out-shitfested by Inverness, but so too was an incredibly weak official.
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8 hours ago, tonnick said:
To continue the biblical theme Carragher just before HT went down with a head wound apparently severe enough for the ref to halt play. Someone must've said something or had a sly dig and he miraculously springs to his feet sparking a stramache lasting several minutes, headache all gone happily for him. The ref restarts giving possession to ICT when we were attacking. Sums up the game for me.
A drop ball inside the penalty box always goes to the defending team’s goalkeeper. We questioned it at the time but my mate checked up on the rule at half time as he thought that might have been the case.
Much as the referee was extremely weak, lost control of the game early and allowed Danny Devine to referee the game for him, he was correct in this instance.
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4 minutes ago, Madton said:
If that is the case, brilliant. Just remember someone mentioned it after Motherwell game.
Aye, it was me. But Boogs corrected me. Three bookings for a suspension.
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20 hours ago, TONofmemories said:I see on twitter their fans aren't happy about the forums match preview, particularly about them spending big.
Great work all involved.
Rancid wee club who've gotten way above their station of late.
Haha. Aye, I was quite please with that. The boy calling me bitter and unprofessional was a belter- I write for a fans’ website because my pal runs it, not for FourFourTwo.
Perhaps the Raith fans could look a bit closer to home when seeking examples of unprofessional content being published online.
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Aye, Blues was absolutely outstanding yesterday, although I’d say we’re now well beyond the stage of him being a target of any boo boys, unless I’m just fortunate with where I stand at Cappielow.
On another note, probably the last time I can remember Morton’s administrative side being described as incompetent and “typical Morton” was around the time they apparently made an arse of Nadir Çiftçi’s work permit application.
Looking back, if we’d been successful with that, we’d probably never have seen George Oakley at Morton. That’s some silver lining.
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There’s something about that Jack McMillan that I can’t go. Could be the nicest bloke in the world, but he strikes me as a complete helmet.
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I wonder if the unforeseen circumstances surrounding the rescheduling of the AGM were that the notice was provided to shareholders on 19th March, which is less than the required 14 days notice required for a 28th March meeting.
I may be wrong, as my knowledge of company law is somewhat limited, but I believe the new date of the AGM now falls out with the required ten month timescale from the date of the accounts, which would have been 31st May 2023.