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    Morton Club Together Updates

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    14 hours ago, Toby said:

    As far as I’m aware, Graham Barr, who is a director of Morton, but ludicrously not of MCT anymore, and lost Dean, Gerry and Alan from his comms team whilst on the MCT board because of their dissatisfaction with how things were going is responsible for the social media output.

    In mentioning Barr’s name, I’d say he alluded to Morton’s role in this failing, if perhaps unintentionally.

    I ask because I'm confused about how the club is run and I don't think that has been made clear by the club or MCT. Is MCT running the club on a day to day basis? I had assumed not, hence why there's a CEO and his staff and MCT say community owned not run, but then why is a club director responsible for social media output? Or is he not part of MCT anymore?

    Who does the post-match interviews? And why don't we hear from players anymore? 

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    Morton Club Together Updates

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    9 hours ago, DumfriesTon said:

    Was going to the say the same thing. I've spoken on this thread a few times about social media output - that post match video is an embarrassment.  

    Now been nearly two months since Graham Barr said social media output has to improve on the MCT Q&A. Still no improvements. 

    I'm sure I've heard on here before that Jonathan Mitchell had to buy equipment out of his own pocket - I'm assuming the club are hanging the current social media guy out to dry as well. 

    What do these guys do? Simple stuff that these keeps on being neglected.  

    Is that MCT's fault, or is it the club's? What is the CEO doing? Isn't it his responsibility to run the club on a day-to-day basis, which in turn includes the social media/content output of the club?

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    Morton Club Together Updates

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    5 hours ago, TRVMP said:

    I'm hard to please but I turned it off after three minutes. The main guy introduced it by saying - correctly - they're not going to talk about the running of Greenock Morton itself because community-owned doesn't mean community-run, and there are some things like employee rights and management that are the domain of Greenock Morton FC and not MCT. Fair enough. I think that's quite right.

    Then the second guy says since he joined MCT he's been, quote, "surprised by some of the intricacies that are involved in actually running a football club."

    So you're running the club now? But you still can't talk about it? So we'll hear all about how ace you guys are at running it, except when it comes to things people actually care about - like football - at which point, down come the shutters because MCT doesn't run the club.

    I might go back and listen to it later but if this is the idea of attracting engagement they should get their story straight first.

    Perhaps he meant because he's now involved in MCT - and speaks to MCT/club board members - it's given him an insight into what it takes to run a football club, which is more complicated than he'd imagined? 

    Thread About Ex Player

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    On 9/23/2021 at 10:52 AM, ChampTon said:

    Wonder if he could end up at Celtic in some back up capacity? Seemed to have some links with the new gaffer.

    When he left us he joined Postecoglou's Brisbane Roar and won back-to-back A-League Championships. Also, the Roar were managed on an interim basis in 2019 by Darren Davies (who kept the seat warm for Robbie Fowler).

    Morton Club Together Updates

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    On 9/15/2021 at 9:22 AM, LargsTON said:

    Here Hayfever, why downvote that?  You one of the MCT failures aye?  Makes sense.

    I disagree with your analysis that the scheme is lurching from disaster to disaster because a director resigned. And no I'm not involved with MCT other than being a member.

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    Morton Club Together Updates

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    9 hours ago, TRVMP said:

    Nothing to say on the substantive points about the membership fee and the scope of the project? 

    I think it's a good idea, I hope it works, and I'll continue to support it. I don't have the same concerns as others but that may change in time of course. 

    I think I can help and I've applied to be an Associate Director. 

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    Morton Club Together Updates

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    3 hours ago, TRVMP said:

    I know you're gasping to get a blazer and tie but this starting things off with this huffy "... perhaps" as if you're explaining cows to Dougal McGuire is really off-putting. You've done absolutely nothing with or for MCT to merit anything approaching the amount of condescension you're showing here. Can you approach this discussion with some humility?

    Because if you can't, you at least need to get your facts right. The initial 240 quid payment - most people splitting it into a tenner a month for two years - is not a donation. Once that payment is made it is a fee for full membership. 240 pounds, then as now, entitles one to MCT membership, meaning voting rights. (At least that was back when they gave mention of voting rights.) Anything above that 240 - or below it in the case that someone donates 230 then decides not to continue for their last month - can be accurately termed a donation (although MCT's own term is the slightly less brass-necked "contributions.")

    Trying to rewrite history to call this a 'donation' - with the 'project' being something that just 'changes', like it's the weather - isn't going to wash. This was never supposed a money-in-the-bucket enterprise where you just shut up and bring a friend. That 240 quid was supposed to be something that gets you a stake in the club and - admittedly at arm's length - a say in the decision-making process at MCT, not just a donation.

    Well, if you think I'm condescending now just you wait until I get my blazer and tie (and, hopefully, pocket square).

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    Morton Club Together Updates

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    5 hours ago, TRVMP said:

    The wording on the membership T&Cs has completely changed. See this sample from November last year:

    Membership – Morton Club Together (archive.org)

    "Monthly payments will run for 24 months, after which no further financial commitment from contributors is required or expected."

    It is absolutely explicit that monthly payments will run for that length of time. It doesn't explicitly say that they will stop, but it's very heavily implied. (It doesn't rule out people staying on to donate more if they wish, of course, but does say that it's not expected.)

    In my opinion it's very sharp practice to continue charging people who signed up under these pledge conditions unless they opt out. For people who sign up today, alright, it's pretty transparent. But people who signed up for a 24-month term should be subject to a 24-month term with any further payment being purely on an opt-in basis.

    ...perhaps because the point of the project has changed so the nature of what the donations are for has changed?

    In terms of the unsigned emails, my assumption has always been it's not signed because there isn't (or doesn't appear to be) someone in a specific leadership role whose name can be attached to official communications, like a Chairperson for example. 

    Based on the 'about' section of the new MCT website there are teams in place but nobody has been appointed to specific roles (or if they have it's not been declared on the website), perhaps that will change/improve when Directors are appointed and specific roles assigned? 

    I can't say that not having an email signed by anyone has given me any cause for concern nor makes me think they are ignoring the fanbase, especially when one of the MCT 'communications team' runs this forum and will be fully aware of the feedback regularly given about this issue.

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    Morton Club Together Updates

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    On 6/28/2021 at 8:00 PM, Cet Homme Charmant said:

    Would it be cheeky to ask what club you have fan ownership experience with, and what your roles are/were?

    I've been in ticketing in various roles since 2006, and was Head of Ticketing & Retail for Exeter City for 3 years until early 2020.

    Majority owned by their supporter trust for the last 20 years or so; they took over after dodgy directors bled the club dry and left them in a financial mess.

    On 6/28/2021 at 9:22 PM, capitanus said:

    ERRA MATCHDAY PROGRAMMES

    :D :thumbup2: :D

    Best goddamn programme seller in the league I was.

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    Morton Club Together Updates

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    On 6/27/2021 at 1:22 AM, capitanus said:

    Maybe your intentions were honourable, I don't doubt that they were, however this doesn't entitle you to be parachuted into a plum job at Morton because you have been been involved in a fan owned club somewhere else.

    Next.

    What about relevant experience that could help MCT address and overcome supporter concerns around ticketing, retail, and how to communicate to and reconnect with its supporter-base?

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    Morton Club Together Updates

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    11 hours ago, capitanus said:

    Whenever there is the changing of guard there is always someone that tries to weasel their way in on the coat tails of others.  Why shouldn't Hayfever try what others would, and succeed?

    What makes you think my intentions are anything other than honourable?

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    Morton Club Together Updates

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    15 hours ago, vikingTON said:

    Or perhaps you can stand for directorship and pitch your talents to the membership who will actually own the club, rather than trying to worm your way straight into the club tie set.

    As someone with the relevant experience they are looking for, and a lack of ties in his wardrobe, I am considering it yes. 

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