Nornirontons
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Offered very very little in final 3rd
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If it's a dive he has t book him
...looked a pen all day t me
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Think both sides are hardly setting the world alight here tbh.
Not a great showing from either side.
Hopefully second half brings a bit better from us
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1 hour ago, Alibi said:
Actually I think that's what Raith did - Initially they were offering a one month pass for £20 for IIRC overseas folk, but nearer the time the PPV option appeared. The options offered initially depended on where your computer was logged on.
If they don't have PPV for tonight's game, they're missing a trick.
Given up hope of PPV
... might be IPTV link knocking about somewhere around kick-off. Please share if you know of 1. TY.
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Hoping they make this match PPV
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What a player Power is @ this level. Seems to be loving life in blue and white hoops. Reminds me of several experienced centre mids of the McGraw era who he used to utilise a player of that ilke for a few seasons.
Never looked troubled @ all defensively for 95% of the 90 mins...and so the run continues!!!
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1 hour ago, TRVMP said:
Aiden McAdams signs for Larne, having left Edinburgh City due to their financial crisis. The Larnemen* are reigning champions of the failed statelet league and are in a close battle with Linfield for top spot.
Scott Allan is over there as well, along with, oddly, some Mexican defender on loan from Real Salt Lake. Wonder where the money's coming from.
*sub, check nickname
Larne are owned by local man done good Kenny Bruce the man behind purple bricks estate agents.
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Personally I'm hoping for the rabbit out the hat..,Yes last season was dictated through circumstances in way money came in....but I actually hope Dougie and the club as whole learned from that. Which Im sure almost certainly think they did.
There is most definitely deals to be done with quality free agents at the end of the window and I personally think it would be wise to hold on to a few shillings to sweep em up like we did last year. Maybe a bit if a risk but it did pay off last season...if you don't buy a ticket..as the old saying goes... youll not be in the draw/or words to that effect
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A player I've seen a number of times and indeed scored 2 against Ards my local side who are pretty dreadful at the moment earlier in season and I wouldn't say that's something to be getting overly carried away with.
He is a willing runner, pretty quick and in the mould that Imrie is sure to like and much better than Orsie tbf... but if your not playing in a Glentoran side whos season started off quite well but is now in rapid reverse I think most people are right to be thinking it's questionable tbh.
2 Goals in rather after you fashion in first few mins of this. Didn't really have to work for those tbf.... coulda changed his boots and still had time to score em!! Decent finishes all the same.
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4 hours ago, TRVMP said:
A guy named Aidan Keena had a brief spell at Falkirk, where he was in and out of the team, didn't set the heather alight. He's gone back to Ireland and he's basically their Gerd Muller, top scorer in the league.
Motherwell are pie, sure, but I'd back Morton to beat Sligo or anyone else from that league more often than not.
Edit: Apparently this guy even scored against Motherwell.
Off topic I know
IMHOfor what it's worth shamrock rovers would be comfortably a play-off side. They have a huge budget compared to most at our level and could easily compete.
Both have FAI and IFA have invested heavily in their youth development to help improve the general standard which was pretty dreadful tbf (I have seen first hand with my own son)...and both north and south are starting to see this development come through into the local game which is the best it's been in 20 odd years I've been here.
It's easy to look at a few individuals in isolation and think its mince however there are always players moving to England especially from the southern league and prove more than capable in league 1 or 2...with some also moving to championship and higher.
Blackpool now have a former shamrock rover and a linfield player in their ranks for example who actually played in their countries local game which you wouldn't have said even just a few years ago.
Fleetwood for some reason seems to be a place where alot of Irish players are being picked up. Indeed I have a friend whos son signed a couple of seasons ago as a 16 year old. I've also friend's who have kids @ Liverpool Everton West Ham Crystal Palace and Rangers... Will they be any good?...your guess is as good as mine but that's the issue with guys like kabia who've played little or no senior football before signing with a clubs at a higher level and kids the world over who jump into academies on steroids...no real development other than @ youth level and as was said on another post before....a whole team is generally there for 1 or 2 who are the actual star(s). Yes you may get a few farmed out to see if they can hack it at any level...the old firm do it every season. Does anyone on here actually think Josh McPake will ever kick a ball for Rangers or that other kid who was @ Raith who name escapes me? Somehow I think not.
The main issue with the game over here is any decent players rarely have more than a couple of decent seasons before their snapped up by bigger clubs and any decent kids don't get the chance to play the local game before their off so the general standard proves hard to increase but that's the same at any level of football....and the likes of Gilmore and Doak show it's the same in Scotland.
If I'm honest I don't even feel the standard of the championship itself has moved much over the years for a not dissimilar reason...there's not many players even of the quality of McInnes Lindberg Marko or McArthur and McCarthy to mention just a few....knocking about at mo is there?
The bottom line is Morton won't be signing any decent players from Ireland north or south in my lifetime. Anyone can moan about the standard of football on the island of Ireland all they like but it's really little to do with why Morton are unlikely to see a good Irish player and its very slim pickings should we get 1 @ cappielow on loan as the best are out of reach for the majority of clubs in Scotland due to the ludicrous wages they are being offered for just 3 or 4 years only to be sent home disillusioned with a large majority never kicking a ball again because of it!
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Looks like Low won't be coming according to Twitter....unless there is a huge turn of events...his pal has replied to Vize..not signing... earlier I see.
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Think you'll find it wasn't your ginger friend at all
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Decent signing that....did someone know I was coming over for the game on Saturday
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3 hours ago, vikingTON said:
GMFC has no assets right now - that is precisely the operation what 'any offers' would be taking on from MCT. So quite why you're discussing a hypothetical football club with assets that private investors might see a viable investment opportunity in developing is beyond me.
1 theory I would suggest is the bigger picture which any business savvy investor probably would. I'm aware there is a glass half empty view on this which VT has already posted but let's look at it from a glass half full point of view.
A potential investor in MCT may look at this as a way of getting a foot under the table to be part of a process that could end up MCT in some guise buying the ground at an under market value price. I'm not talking a massive saving but if an investor was to come up with the money it is possible.
So investing what may be pocket money to them in MCT anonymously would in the short term over a few years...possibly look quite attractive if you are looking at a bigger goal on the horizon...investors always do and it would certainly make MCT a more attractive proposition overall.
I remember reading something about MCT and the ground being purchased. I'm sure it was asked and answered at some stage in the process but tbf the details of the reply are a bit vague in my memory tbh.
I bet someone can shed some light on those details and what was said right enough.
This is just a theory but not improbable if you actually do look at potential outcomes....and yes I'm aware it's not just as simple as how I've framed it btw but thought I'd put it out there.
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I had this conversation about what was, what is and what could be a few times.... Under Wilson and McGraw there was a clear plan to stabilise and that was done by selling and finding more...Scott...well let's not go there. Rae saw it as an expensive train set imho. He was paying Tidser 1900 a week!!!...source ex Morton player over here not jenks hahaha ..however the 1 thing that we are not burdened with is the debt he built up which tbf isn't a bad deal for anyone to take on. This is very much crystal ball stuff but whichever way you look at it we need investment....otherwise part time it will be and that's the reality of it. Part time players over here are on more money. Why do you think Jenkins ended up here?....however we were part time and made the premier League in the past....granted much harder to do in this day an age but it without structured investment a full time club we will not be imho. Especially if your paying high end part time wages!
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2 hours ago, TRVMP said:
Looks to be the same tonight. Pepper on the bench, McManus started. It's 0-0 in Belfast with 25 minutes to go.
If Pepper comes in, is this the first time two ex-Morton players have faced each other in the UCL? Maybe in Europe entirely? There can't be that many.
Having been an interested observer McManus is still as hateful as ever. He huffed and puffed, still has the touch of a baby elephant and blew probably their only real guilt edge chance in the game heading straight at the keeper from 10 yards out with no one near him. Now looks like he'll be out for a while after picking up what looked like a hamstring injury late in extra time. How sad.(aye right)
Pepper came off the bench. Had a shaky start but in the whole defended well and was useful fresh legs going forward for the eventual winners.
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Goes back t 80s for me...after getting taught a footballing lesson at cappielow when we beat them 4-2 as we were going for the title (again) this horrible lot decided they were going t line up on the other side of the carriage way, charge across and fight where kids(including myself) were. My father literally picked me up by the armpit t get away.(god rest him)
He then decided t go up to their hole back in the day of the fence where again McNeil and co gave them another red arse...only for Morton supporter's to be subjected to bottles being thrown at them over the fence.
Needless to say my regard for this lot has never been above the dregs of society.
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I'm somewhat bemused by this Q&A
Suppose at least they say that there is contingency funds.
Barr really does need to get the community side of things off the ground.
It's all well and good saying we let kids in for free but apart from your regulars there clearly no incentive on their own. Get the finger out!! Were into the second quarter of the season! Get back into the inverclyde schools and go back to giving these free tickets out to the kids and get these Full time players to do something more proactive for the club other than just at kick-off on match day!!
Theres no clear strategy to build a future fan base. It died a death after the McGraw years and the club itself has to stop relying on Mortons community and use the tools they have at there disposal much more proactively and productively imho.
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Jamie McDonut sets up chickenvilles equaliser against Ifa blues...rest easy gents
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On my quick Google it was purely based on ownership.
Which does give you the question if you can get a tax break from it why would MCT have to take it on? To much work for GC? Just another two fingered salute to the fans?
Like a lot of things more questions than answers!!
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As I stated previously through a quick Google...which I'm sure you can do. There are ways of writing off maintenance through tax breaks. There is no way I could see of getting out of paying 5% of the total value of the property when you take ownership. The government want there candy.
I may fumble about but that must be a more pressing issue if MCT are to get ownership...yes? No? Would it not be that significant an outlay? I've no clue tbh
I read you have some idea of the current rates so do you or anyone have some idea of the valuation of the ground that the rates are based on?
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2 hours ago, TRVMP said:
Right, that's it confirmed, you have absolutely no idea about anything in this conversation.
I wouldn't have any clue whatsoever as to what the ground is worth. Perhaps you can enlighten us as....rateable value was the incorrect wording I should have said taxable value tbf
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The operative word in my first post is "could"
Assuming MCT achieve the ownership this for just a start would lead to a 5% stamp duty on any commercial property. What the rateable value of the ground is I have no idea. That's just from a quick google. I doubt the grounds rateable value is 2 million but if it was that's a sizable amount of money that needs to be found to take ownership. Again from a quick google there is all sorts of tax reliefs that are available for maintaining a commercial property. So the costs would be written of much like buy to let but obviously on a larger scale.
Clears very little up tbh
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6 minutes ago, TRVMP said:
Again: what ground expenditures do you think they'd be on the hook for in case of ownership that they're not on the hook for via GC ownership? Bear in mind we know that repairs and general maintenance are MCT's responsibility, and the GC's stated reason (for the half-dozen people on earth who actually believe this horseshit) for taking the ground isn't because they want to maintain it or do anything with it, but to protect the asset from creditors. Why, if this is their stated reason, would they be seeking to upgrade the ground or spend anything on it? That's not what they said they want it for.
If you really are concerned about MCT's part in this you need to take the facts as they are - GC have given no indication, either through statements or action, that they are going to shell out anything for Cappielow after their take it. Their largesse extends to the peppercorn rent situation (jolly decent of them, given that they're getting a stonking great asset for free.)
Your quite the keyboard warrior.
I don't confess to be a matriarchal stat welding, quote throwing poster like yourself. I have a life.
I asked a question that you yourself couldn't answer.
Questions ultimately can be speculated till the bloody cows come home.
The only people with the answers are MCT and clearly they will not post on here to explain their hand at this stage!!! All the same questions will be asked and speculation will not stop!!!
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Re the support.... From what I've seen or heard there has been little movement to try to encourage youngsters and parents along.
I'm well aware tickets for youngsters are @ nominal prices but that on its own is clearly not swelling the crowds on its own.
As has been said we need to get more involved in schools. Back in my day even the likes of Martin Doak, John McNeil and Jim Holmes would even turn up to Cubs and Boys brigade events and they weren't even full time!!
Reaching out to local boys clubs who obviously have an interest in the game is a no brainer as they would provide coaches to watch the youngsters and it would be highly likely to add some parents through the turnstiles.
We have "a good bunch of lads" who were not utilising enough if @ all in the future support. How often is there a first team player or 2 showing up at youngsters prize giving events/sports days nowadays? First team football doesn't end when you walk off the training pitch imho.
I've been beating this drum for a number of years and have seen many other comments along similar lines. Hopefully this time next season we'll see some of this come to fruition