Arrogance Of The Highest Order.

[Guest Zutons]

Good evening and good-night, this time i'm off, a cold beer is far more appealing at this juncture.

thank f**k for that

 

[Bryan]

 

Wasnt morton given a low intrest loan by golden casket that we (The Fans)are still paying for .. No one put there own money up we were given a loan??

 

there is no interest due at all, or payback date.

[Bryan]

You know as well as I do, but I refer you to Scott Gillans answer.

 

Your paying for it, once again, don't believe the hype.

 

I seriously didn't think people were still as gullable as they once were.

I refer you to my answer

[forza ton]

at least the football forum is getting busy again. the new season is almost upon us so we can all fight in here again rather than general nonsense

[para]

bu**er me I dont check the board for 48hrs and the 3rd world war breaks out over the price and quality of shirts

 

No I dont see any rip of merchants on ebay selling counterfeit shirts

I can get you stippy or hooped shirts any size for half the price

 

As I said somewhere before ask the lady of the house what hoops are and the answer is horizontal stripes

I grew up in an age of Morton where we had thin stripes ,white kit, green kit ,orange kit, blue kit and if they had invented purple we would have had purple

 

As to did Mr Rae become our white knight yes he did. Personally Prof Picket was my hero.

 

I agree that you shouldnt buty and sell players youself thats what the manager is paid for the same as team talks.

Just look what Delia did at Norwich cant remember half-time crowd talk

Its called passion and that whats making us argue on here

 

Yes when my son was offered a trial by our biggest rivals he decided not to persue but if he had i would have supported him and probably the team but if he ever played against the Ton then a 3 all draw with him scoring a hatrick and the rescuing us in the last minute with an og would have been the preferred outcome

 

We are passionate but lets not forget there are 2 sides (or as many sides as there are supporters ) to every arguement

All I am prepaired to say is thank goodness we survived Sc**t

I hope he rots in hell

 

Even that reign is part of history so grow up and move on

Let the season commence then we really have something to whinge about

end of rant

 

[LargsTON]

This is the first thread I've been genuinely interested in for weeks.

 

 

[joebananas]

You didn't listen to the fans when we gave our opinion on the design of the new strip.

 

You want US to attend Firhill to help alleviate costs of the Morecambe/Barrow trip.

Edited as requested.

 

Your website, the official portal for Morton fans from all around the world is slower to update than my father ( who is officially the slowest man on earth)

Are the hierarchy within the realms of Castle Cappielow ever going to listen to us, or does the childs executive box at Ibrox mean much more.?

There is only one constant in this equation.

 

P.S for the record, I think we will win the league this season, but I hope we don't go forward with structure we have, as it stinks of s***.

 

You are not Greenock Morton, you are merely custodians of Greenock Morton, and you would do well to remember that.

Good post, and I agree with you.

 

 

[SpoonTon]

I dont agree with that !!!

 

 

Unfortunatley it's true. We're only the 'wee team' to many people.

[joebananas]

Unfortunatley it's true. We're only the 'wee team' to many people.

Correct. Even though we have an average home gate of around 2400, I would estimate at least 1400 of that lot are fans of either side of the Old Firm, and would rather go sit their arses on a plastic seat whilst watching the bigot brothers in action.

 

 

[TAFKAC]

Good post, and I agree with you.

At last, some other people who see what seems to be going on. A man who's starting to realise that his loophole to avoid his company paying full corporation tax doesn't seem to be reaping any awards.

Pickett was always my hero, not the purchaser at the fire sale who waited to the last minute to drive the price down. Does anyone really think that s***t would have let the club disappear without him getting any money for it? I hope nobody is that naive.

Anyway fair play to Barbarossa for the sentiment, if not the style in putting it across.

[Savo]

Although the 'Save the Ton' campaign led by Professor Pickett et al raised a considerable amount of money it was NOT enough to buy the Club from Hugh Scott. It was only when that FACT became apparent that Mr Rae stepped in to save the Club at the last minute. This was all well documented at the time.

 

 

For the record, it's only fair to point out that you're wrong on a couple of counts there.

 

Firstly, the STT money was raised and chanelled from January 2001 onwards in order to sustain the club during administration. The campaign's purpose was to stave off the very immediate threat during that period: liquidation at the behest of the adminstrator (because the club simply did not have anywhere near enough money to meet its outgoings).

 

So it was never a case of any fact becoming apparent as to STT not being in a position to purchase the club. That wasn't on the agenda - there were bills which had to be met or all of the rest would have been rendered totally academic very quickly indeed, let me assure you.

 

Nor did Mr Rae's entrance to the table come as a result of what you state, but for differerent reasons altogether.

 

Nor was Professor Pickett part of the STT campaign, far less involved in leading it. The professor's - very important and much welcomed - involvement was concerned with chairing talks with a prospective consortium of investors which was separate to STT.

 

Towards the end of our campaign discussions were held between those two parties with a view to expediting the administrator's snail-paced progress and considering what assistance the campaign could offer the consortium.

 

Not on your case here or anything Mabawsa, just felt it was important to clarify those points.

 

[para]

I do believe that Sc**t had lost it big time and he would have taken the loss to unset the real support and shut down the internet LOL

[forza ton]

Correct. Even though we have an average home gate of around 2400, I would estimate at least 1400 of that lot are fans of either side of the Old Firm, and would rather go sit their arses on a plastic seat whilst watching the bigot brothers in action.

know what u mean but i would say we have at least 1500 hardcore ftof fans.

 

at least

[LargsTON]

Correct. Even though we have an average home gate of around 2400, I would estimate at least 1400 of that lot are fans of either side of the Old Firm, and would rather go sit their arses on a plastic seat whilst watching the bigot brothers in action.

 

Davie, if I thought for a moment that figure was anywhere near accurate you'd never see me at Cappielow again. The few cheers there are at h/t infuriate me.

 

I reckon 10% of our core support may have a leaning towards either side of the OF, no more than that.

 

You're doing our support a bit of a dis-service there, mate.

 

 

 

 

[Savo]

Pickett was always my hero, not the purchaser at the fire sale who waited to the last minute to drive the price down.

 

Around 1997, when Wilson was selling up, Rae made an offer to buy Morton. I believe the bid met Wilson's asking price but the two men's antipathy towards one another meant it was rebuffed.

 

Rae ended up having to pay much more for it in 2001 and the club was in a state unrecognisable to what it was in 1997.

 

He did so willingly when everyone else who had been shouting their mouths off in the press had taken flight.

 

He agreed to meet the considerable amount required and he agreed to take on the footballing debt which ran into six figures.

 

That rather undermines your point about waiting for a 'fire sale' which, incidentally, did not occur.

 

 

[AyrAndy]

for 'Glamour' games e.g Ayr may be classed as a 'glamour' game

 

, is that cos with Jerome we have a wee bit of continental flair ???

 

As for the price of the strips, Ayr's 3 tops sell for £34.99 each although there is a 10% discount on the website bringing the price down to £31.50, Kids tops are £29.99 but with discount are £26.99, seems pretty good value.

[Guest midTONs]

He agreed to meet the considerable amount required and he agreed to take on the footballing debt which ran into six figures.

 

That rather undermines your point about waiting for a 'fire sale' which, incidentally, did not occur.

 

 

Savo I maybe wrong here but did the Morton Supporters Trust not agree to pay off a section of debt that was left by Hugh Scott?

[gorkir]

I know I quite often can come onto the board and stir things up at times

but this topic is completely out of order

does the big girls blouse who started this topic actually believe what he has stated - if he does he needs his head looked

I perhaps have had a dig at the board at times and in particular Dougie

but I will never say that the board dont have the morton at heart

 

yes Mr Morton, Alan McGraw, does attend Ibrox as some have stated

and yes have a dig at him as we have never seen him back since the scott years - I believe he went in the huff because his consortium failed

 

but for the people to say that half of us are old firm fans perhaps shows them up as bigots themselves

 

then again they may be right our average attendances are high at the moment

but do they know why

it's because there are old firm fans attending Cappielow brining their kids to Cappielow to avoid the vile and hate that they encounter at ibrox or parkhead good for them because it may mean that those kids will attend Cappielow in a regular basis when they get older and at the end of the day Morton will be the winners

 

this board is terrible at times for calling someone a ****

I would suggest that the board members that get involved in this are bigots

every one is entitled to have an opinion but to lower yourself to this level is no better to what happens in govan or the east end of glasgow

 

as regards the new strip so what, some, maybe even the majority wont like it

but at the end of the day the majority of the fans, who normally buy the strips will buy it or will the tims out there not buy it because it's no longer hoops

 

 

[Savo]

Savo I maybe wrong here but did the Morton Supporters Trust not agree to pay off a section of debt that was left by Hugh Scott?

 

I don't think so midTONs, well not to my knowledge or recollection of events anyway.

 

GMST was able to make a financial contribution towards the purchase of the club, and subsequently received a shareholding in return for its investment.

 

Regionsign (the holding company set up to buy the club) obviously hand all the purchase money in total to Kroll Buchler Phillips, who were then responsible for allocating it to you-know-who, the Inland Revenue and taking their own cut while the non-secured creditors got buttons I think.

 

Thereafter, the only residual debt remaining should have all been footballing-related and would have become the responsibility of Regionsign as the new owners. I'm not aware of any specific agreements put in place as to how those debts were laid off.

 

 

 

[Guest midTONs]

I don't think so midTONs, well not to my knowledge or recollection of events anyway.

 

GMST was able to make a financial contribution towards the purchase of the club, and subsequently received a shareholding in return for its investment.

 

Regionsign (the holding company set up to buy the club) obviously hand all the purchase money in total to Kroll Buchler Phillips, who were then responsible for allocating it to you-know-who, the Inland Revenue and taking their own cut while the non-secured creditors got buttons I think.

 

Thereafter, the only residual debt remaining should have all been footballing-related and would have become the responsibility of Regionsign as the new owners. I'm not aware of any specific agreements put in place as to how those debts were laid off.

 

 

, maybe I wrong and that's the reason I didn't say it in my first post but I actually thought there was an agreement between the trust and the new owners that the trust would pay off the football debt, the thing is I think I was sitting in front of you at that meeting when I heard it so I might have got my wires crossed somewhere, although I remain a trust member I admit I stopped going to the trust meeting a bit after the club was safe, maybe I should start going again.