Morton vs Stenny Scottish Cup

[TRVMP]

There were people who shall remain nameless (Dunning) also saying there was "no way back" for Murray after it.

Dunning: will your humiliating climbdown be now or after we horse big-spending Dougie Imrie's Raith in a fortnight?

[dunning1874]

7 hours ago, TRVMP said:

There were people who shall remain nameless (Dunning) also saying there was "no way back" for Murray after it.

Dunning: will your humiliating climbdown be now or after we horse big-spending Dougie Imrie's Raith in a fortnight?

No I didn't.

On 1/18/2026 at 1:43 AM, dunning1874 said:

That was the kind of performance and result managers don't come back from, I think people are massively understating just how much of an abject disaster today was.

Saying it was the kind of result of some managers don't come back from - in response to people saying it wasn't that bad a result and/or it was nothing to do with Murray - wasn't saying Murray was already done because of it, and elsewhere I said no one should be calling for him to be sacked after one game because that would be stupid.

I thought we had to urgently see a massive improvement in defensive organisation at set-pieces and arguing the goals conceded were all down to individuals and nothing to do with the manager was ridiculous. In the two weeks since we've already seen that improvement in organisation and those individuals looking like better players for it.

Edited February 1 by dunning1874

[Greacen2000]

10 hours ago, vikingTON said:

 

 

Just going to bump this - as is my wont - ludicrous revisionism from a fortnight ago, to cover for the straightforward verdict of a team and management simply being incompetent to handle a single cup game. 

We'll be finishing 7th in the second tier just like in roughly 24 other occasions this century. 

Not sure why you are quoting me in a comment about revisionism?  

You are the one digging up a 2 week old thread & I stand by everything I said at the time.

[TRVMP]

9 hours ago, dunning1874 said:

No I didn't.

Saying it was the kind of result of some managers don't come back from - in response to people saying it wasn't that bad a result and/or it was nothing to do with Murray - wasn't saying Murray was already done because of it, and elsewhere I said no one should be calling for him to be sacked after one game because that would be stupid.

I thought we had to urgently see a massive improvement in defensive organisation at set-pieces and arguing the goals conceded were all down to individuals and nothing to do with the manager was ridiculous. In the two weeks since we've already seen that improvement in organisation and those individuals looking like better players for it.

So that'll be in a fortnight, then?

[vikingTON]

7 hours ago, Greacen2000 said:

Not sure why you are quoting me in a comment about revisionism?  

You are the one digging up a 2 week old thread & I stand by everything I said at the time.

It was about the fifth thread on this moribund forum, so no 'digging' required. 

For you to continue to claim that it is a "monumentally awful" campaign and that our current, completely predictable 7th place position is "a borderline miracle" was drama queen hysteria then, and is patently laughable nonsense now. 

Try as hard as some people like to generate some narrative purpose - and barring some administrative, points deduction enducing failure behind the scenes - this is season is nothing more than an insipid damp squib. It will be filed alongside all our many, many other copies of this one and be forgotten  almost instantly. 

[Greacen2000]

2 hours ago, vikingTON said:

It was about the fifth thread on this moribund forum, so no 'digging' required. 

For you to continue to claim that it is a "monumentally awful" campaign and that our current, completely predictable 7th place position is "a borderline miracle" was drama queen hysteria then, and is patently laughable nonsense now. 
 

This season has been some of the worst football I’ve watched from us in years(both pre & post Imrie leaving), and it is a self evident fact that we are only still clear of the relegation zone and in touch of the promotion playoffs by virtue of the clubs above and below us also having shite seasons.  Not sure which part of that is “patently laughable nonsense”

The fact that we have went on to get 4 from a possible 6 points in the league since then only reinforces my earlier point that all the knicker wetting over the stenny result was a massive over-reaction.

I still don’t see where revisionism comes into it so would you mind having another go at explaining it to me? Please “be very specific, champ”

 

2 hours ago, vikingTON said:

Try as hard as some people like to generate some narrative purpose - and barring some administrative, points deduction enducing failure behind the scenes - this is season is nothing more than an insipid damp squib. It will be filed alongside all our many, many other copies of this one and be forgotten  almost instantly. 

You are going to have to try a bit harder I’m afraid, because your narrative of “covering for the manager and players with ludicrous revisionism” is pretty flimsy, champ.

[vikingTON]

On 2/1/2026 at 8:42 PM, Greacen2000 said:

This season has been some of the worst football I’ve watched from us in years(both pre & post Imrie leaving), and it is a self evident fact that we are only still clear of the relegation zone and in touch of the promotion playoffs by virtue of the clubs above and below us also having shite seasons.  

Not sure which part of that is “patently laughable nonsense”

The bold points above, in which we are massively fortunate to have 6 other teams in a 10 team division are apparently all having 'shite seasons'. Which is somehow different to the 1990s Serie A standard you bizarrely seem to think is the norm at this level. 

Our league campaign in terms of results and indeed performances too is entirely slap bang on track for our usual finish. And indeed where you would have placed the squad at the start of the season too 

"The fact that we have went on to get 4 from a possible 6 points in the league since then only reinforces my earlier point that all the knicker wetting over the stenny result was a massive over-reaction."

Nice try, but the subsequent performances in fact prove precisely why the Stenhousemuir result should be treated with absolute fury.

Because had we delivered a broadly competent performance as shown more often than not in our league campaign (7 defeats in 23), then we wouldn't have even remotely suffered one of our all time worst results, and would also have an ongoing interest in the season beyond the usual hype casting about promotion/relegation play-offs en route to 7th. That result was the end of our meaningful season. 

[Greacen2000]

16 minutes ago, vikingTON said:

The bold points above, in which we are massively fortunate to have 6 other teams in a 10 team division are apparently all having 'shite seasons'. Which is somehow different to the 1990s Serie A standard you bizarrely seem to think is the norm at this level. 

Our league campaign in terms of results and indeed performances too is entirely slap bang on track for our usual finish. And indeed where you would have placed the squad at the start of the season too 

"The fact that we have went on to get 4 from a possible 6 points in the league since then only reinforces my earlier point that all the knicker wetting over the stenny result was a massive over-reaction."

Nice try, but the subsequent performances in fact prove precisely why the Stenhousemuir result should be treated with absolute fury.

Because had we delivered a broadly competent performance as shown more often than not in our league campaign (7 defeats in 23), then we wouldn't have even remotely suffered one of our all time worst results, and would also have an ongoing interest in the season beyond the usual hype casting about promotion/relegation play-offs en route to 7th. That result was the end of our meaningful season. 

TL:DR - what a fucking yawnfest.  If this forum is as moribund as you claim then this is exactly the sort of content that’s to blame.

Imagine the occasional reader/poster coming on here looking for an update after a big win and just before the transfer deadline, and being faced with this pish.  I’m genuinely surprised that you even bothered responding again to this thread when there are clearly more important matters to discuss (2 weeks worth!).  It’s almost as if you care more about petty points scoring non-arguments than you do about discussing current affairs.  Do better VT.

Edited February 2 by Greacen2000

[vikingTON]

On 2/2/2026 at 10:17 PM, Greacen2000 said:

TL:DR - what a fucking yawnfest.  If this forum is as moribund as you claim then this is exactly the sort of content that’s to blame.

Imagine the occasional reader/poster coming on here looking for an update after a big win and just before the transfer deadline, and being faced with this pish.  I’m genuinely surprised that you even bothered responding again to this thread when there are clearly more important matters to discuss (2 weeks worth!).  It’s almost as if you care more about petty points scoring non-arguments than you do about discussing current affairs.  Do better VT.

A 'big win'? Oh aye, because 7th beating 9th at home in the Championship was such a huge story, that it barely filled a single paragraph in the national papers. 

Meanwhile we've sat out a weekend which will hopefully prove beneficial for Murray in having players recover from injuries and general knocks, but should have GMFC looking ruefully at what could have been won, with a yawningly wide open draw in the quarter finals.

The Scottish Cup is multiple times more important in this and almost every other campaign to GMFC than any league game or a January transfer window, but you continue fooling yourself that we've come out of January with our standing as a club enhanced. The 'occasional' viewer stopped paying any interest after Ochilview for at least another season. 

[Greacen2000]

11 hours ago, vikingTON said:

A 'big win'? Oh aye, because 7th beating 9th at home in the Championship was such a huge story, that it barely filled a single paragraph in the national papers. 

A 6-pointer against a team who are breathing down our necks and have shown a bit of a new manager bounce, yes it was a massive win.

Championship games rarely ever get more than a passing mention in the papers.  How exactly are column inches in the national press even remotely relevant to the importance of any given game for us?

11 hours ago, vikingTON said:

Meanwhile we've sat out a weekend which will hopefully prove beneficial for Murray in having players recover from injuries and general knocks, but should have GMFC looking ruefully at what could have been won, with a yawningly wide open draw in the quarter finals.

Undoubtedly a massive missed opportunity.  What I’ve been saying all along (and still stand by) is that there was an over-reaction to the stenny result (in particular the ridiculous claims that 2 weeks of coaching from Murray was somehow the root cause of our inability to defend corners).  At no point have I claimed that it was anything other than a terrible result.

11 hours ago, vikingTON said:

The Scottish Cup is multiple times more important in this and almost every other campaign to GMFC than any league game or a January transfer window

Ideally we could do both, but if you want to compare the 2 then I think that staying up is multiple times more important than having a run in the Scottish cup.  Happy to agree to disagree on that one.

11 hours ago, vikingTON said:

but you continue fooling yourself that we've come out of January with our standing as a club enhanced.

not sure who said this but it wasn’t me.  If you are intent on proceeding with this ridiculous attempted non-argument then at least try and find some things to disagree with that I have actually said.

11 hours ago, vikingTON said:

The 'occasional' viewer stopped paying any interest after Ochilview for at least another season. 

So you think that the literally thousands of Morton supporters who don’t post on here have stopped following Morton because we got knocked out by Stenny?  You’ve lost me on that one

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I can’t understand why you continue to try and keep this discussion (if it could even be called that) going when there’s clearly nothing to talk about.  Happy for you to red dot me and post another rambling vacuous response in a few days time - I hope it makes you feel better.  I have nothing more to say on the matter and am getting bored by this so knock yourself out and have the last word then let’s let this thread die - it’s fucking embarrassing.

Edited February 9 by Greacen2000