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6 hours ago, Cet Homme Charmant said:

If we assume that the version of events detailed in the voice note came from Dougie, releasing it is very strange as it's obviously not going to go down well with Raith or their fans. Imagine if we were to be told Dougie's replacement didn't apply for or want the job, and was effectively forced into taking it by a deal concocted up behind his back at Boardroom level. You're hardly going to take that well.

Whoever recorded and released this has done Dougie far more harm than good, I'm afraid.

If he’d gone through official channels and it was a newspaper headline, rather than a voice note that won’t even reach most Raith fans, I’d agree. 
 

As it is I think that’ll blow over, particularly quickly if he gets off to a winning start. 

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7 hours ago, Cet Homme Charmant said:

If we assume that the version of events detailed in the voice note came from Dougie, releasing it is very strange as it's obviously not going to go down well with Raith or their fans. Imagine if we were to be told Dougie's replacement didn't apply for or want the job, and was effectively forced into taking it by a deal concocted up behind his back at Boardroom level. You're hardly going to take that well.

Whoever recorded and released this has done Dougie far more harm than good, I'm afraid.

I’m not sure it will be too damaging tbh - he is there now, and seems happy to be there.  If he makes a good impression and results improve, the fans will be happy.

At the end of the day, nobody forced him to sign a contract with raith - he could have chosen to stay here regardless of what was/wasn’t said  (albeit walking away and taking a 2.5 year contract is an understandable decision especially if all the other stuff is true).
 

 “I wanted to stay at Morton and finish what I had started, but was working in a toxic environment and made to feel unwelcome and then the Raith opportunity came up” isn’t exactly a bad narrative for him to be going in there with.  It’s a lot more convincing than “Raith was the step up from Morton which I’ve been craving” which would clearly be utter BS if he had tried to spin something like that.

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5 minutes ago, Chicken_Soup said:

If he’d gone through official channels and it was a newspaper headline, rather than a voice note that won’t even reach most Raith fans, I’d agree. 
 

As it is I think that’ll blow over, particularly quickly if he gets off to a winning start. 

It's already gone viral, so pretty sure it'll reach Raith and their fans soon, if it hasn't already. If Dougie authorised the release of this, he obviously didn't think through the consequences. Not sure what he thought would be gained by it.

It's just so sad that his tenure at the club has ended this way.

Posted (edited)
11 minutes ago, Greacen2000 said:

 'I wanted to stay at Morton and finish what I had started, but was working in a toxic environment and made to feel unwelcome unwelcome and then the Raith opportunity came up” isn’t exactly a bad narrative for him to be going in there with.   

It isn't.

But 'I didn't apply for the job, didn't want the job, and was forced into it by a deal made behind my back' definitely is.

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2 minutes ago, Cet Homme Charmant said:

It isn't.

But 'I didn't apply for the job, didn't want the job, and was forced into by a deal made behind my back' definitely is.

My point being that nobody actually forced him to accept the deal and if he didn’t want to be there he wouldn’t have agreed to go.

Being put in a situation where he felt his position here was untenable and Raith looked like a better option than us isn’t the same as him straight up not wanting to be at Raith and only being there because he was forced to.  Had he not agreed to join Raith, Imrie would still be the Morton manager today 

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Some fans of any club aren't going to take kindly to the idea that a manager didn't really want the job, but it also doesn't mean he isn't going to give his full commitment to it now he's there.  The voice note by itself isn't going to change anyone's view of him.

Even if he does actually give an interview about what's happened - which we'd need to have any hope of forcing Laird or Robinson and by extension the club to acknowledge this rather than dismissing it as baseless rumours - provided he doesn't explicitly say the words "I didn't even want to go to Raith" then he can still paint a picture of how the board effectively forced him out without burning any bridges with the Raith board or fans, but it's equally understandable if he doesn't want to do that to avoid the risk.

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Posted
34 minutes ago, Ferguson said:

Quite interesting that Raith fans are lapping up Imrie’s decision to go speak to the fans in hospitality before their game tomorrow. Small details that we’ve got accustomed to, and should be looking for in his successor.

it's easy to forget how disconnected the support were from the club & the team on the pitch prior to him joining us.  I can only hope that all his good work on this front is built upon rather than undone.  The situation over the summer was damaging, just as this weeks events have potential to be.

Posted
2 hours ago, Cet Homme Charmant said:

It's already gone viral, so pretty sure it'll reach Raith and their fans soon, if it hasn't already. If Dougie authorised the release of this, he obviously didn't think through the consequences. Not sure what he thought would be gained by it.

It's just so sad that his tenure at the club has ended this way.

It really hasn't 'gone viral' - and why would a Raith fan give a toss about listening to a 7 minute voice note about a different club? 

The site is supposed to be a place for the extended 'family' of Morton supporters - having an affinity with people that you don't know, because you share a love of your local football club. It's not supposed to be about point scoring and showing how 'clever' or 'funny' you are, or just being downright rude and offensive to people you don't know, because you can get away with it. Unfortunately, it seems the classic case of people who have little standing/presence in real life, use this forum as a way of making themselves feel as if they are something. It's sad, and I've said that before..

 

So, having been on Morton forums for about 15 years I guess, I've had enough... well done t*ssers, another Morton supporter driven away. You can all feel happy at how 'clever' you are

Posted
2 hours ago, Cet Homme Charmant said:

It isn't.

But 'I didn't apply for the job, didn't want the job, and was forced into it by a deal made behind my back' definitely is.

No it isn't, because the story was - in my cynical view (but justified by previous evidence of the author's relationship with DI) - purely designed to give Imrie's departure from GMFC the best possible light. It's not about Raith Rovers, and as I said above, their fans won't care. 

You can certainly argue that any such decision was poorly judged or advised - but then so was applying for the Inverness job 0.5 seconds before they inevitably went into financial meltdown. As were the unwise choices made by Strapp or Keay within our own recent player history too. 

I won't be taking anything from that source as credible or not credible - it has no value either way. There are more than enough issues with club mismanagement to be getting on with anyway. 

The site is supposed to be a place for the extended 'family' of Morton supporters - having an affinity with people that you don't know, because you share a love of your local football club. It's not supposed to be about point scoring and showing how 'clever' or 'funny' you are, or just being downright rude and offensive to people you don't know, because you can get away with it. Unfortunately, it seems the classic case of people who have little standing/presence in real life, use this forum as a way of making themselves feel as if they are something. It's sad, and I've said that before..

 

So, having been on Morton forums for about 15 years I guess, I've had enough... well done t*ssers, another Morton supporter driven away. You can all feel happy at how 'clever' you are

Posted
14 hours ago, Toby said:

Who were the sectarian bigots who hounded Jim McInally out of Cappielow for being a Catholic?

Careful now, you don't fall foul of your new boardroom policies. Our resident Petrocelli will be hauling you up at the next MCT AGM.

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Posted (edited)

Just been sent the voice note. Not that we didn’t know already but appears Laird and perhaps Bonar are stepping way out of their “roles”. Sounds like a right toxic atmosphere behind the scenes. 
 

 

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