Morton vs St Johnstone 25th October

[LargsTON]

32 minutes ago, TONofmemories said:

Whilst MacPherson was crap yesterday, the abuse he was getting at the game and on here is a bit OTT and, IMO, comes from a place of personal dislike to whatever he clicked on Twitter and fuck all to do with his footballing ability. He was written off as being some horrible person before a ball was kicked by certain quarters of our support based on nothing more than what a naive boy did on social media. That's just fuel to fire now and nothing he does will be good enough. Of course, I expect the retort will be to the contrary and that's fine but certain folk having been wanting blood since he arrived, meanwhile waxed lyrical about the likes of BMMMH and that ilk who are genuine wronguns by their actions 

You're spot on.  No doubt some fucking woke lefties who pose a far bigger threat to society today than the supposed far right.

Edited October 26, 2025 by LargsTON

[mcintyre_gmfc]

As soon as that team selection was announced it was obvious we would get pumped. That defence should never be played together again, Storer even looked shaky with that rabble in front of him. Dylan Corr isn’t a championship level defender, positionally naive and doesn’t have the pace or IQ to cover his mistakes. As above, Hart must be scunnered up here on the bench watching this pish. We don’t have one single leader in that squad, years gone by we’ve definitely under appreciated Baird. Ideally we bring in someone in this week. 

Dougie needs to find a balance within this squad quickly or pressure is going to mount up.  

[SpoonTon]

1 hour ago, TONofmemories said:

Whilst MacPherson was crap yesterday, the abuse he was getting at the game and on here is a bit OTT and, IMO, comes from a place of personal dislike to whatever he clicked on Twitter and fuck all to do with his footballing ability. He was written off as being some horrible person before a ball was kicked by certain quarters of our support based on nothing more than what a naive boy did on social media. That's just fuel to fire now and nothing he does will be good enough. Of course, I expect the retort will be to the contrary and that's fine but certain folk having been wanting blood since he arrived, meanwhile waxed lyrical about the likes of BMMMH and that ilk who are genuine wronguns by their actions 

I've not seen any criticism on here which isn't fully justified by his performances over the last couple of weeks. I've not written him off, but if he keeps playing like he thinks he's Pirlo or something then he'll continue to be a disaster. 

[TONofmemories]

1 minute ago, SpoonTon said:

I've not seen any criticism on here which isn't fully justified by his performances over the last couple of weeks. I've not written him off, but if he keeps playing like he thinks he's Pirlo or something then he'll continue to be a disaster. 

Yesterday aside, he hasn't been the worst and the absolute facts are that he's getting extra heat for retweeting something on twitter, be it subconsciously or otherwise. It's absolutely playing a part in the OTT criticism from certain quarters. Sad

[SpoonTon]

1 minute ago, TONofmemories said:

Yesterday aside, he hasn't been the worst and the absolute facts are that he's getting extra heat for retweeting something on twitter, be it subconsciously or otherwise. It's absolutely playing a part in the OTT criticism from certain quarters. Sad

The guys I could see shouting at MacPherson yesterday didn't seem like the type who would be sensitive to the kind of thing he shared. Ali Crawford got similar criticism pretty much as soon as he joined us the first time, and I don't remember anything controversial there. I tend to think that fans are actually most sensitive to new players is when they know weren't at all rated at their last club, because they were reluctant to see them sign and then they see everything they've been warned about (Crawford and MacPherson cane with similar reputations from St Johnstone). As with Crawford, players can turn things around with performances. 

From my own perspective, I'm frustrated by the type of mistakes he's made in the last two weeks. He's the epitome of the type of football I don't think we should be playing right now, typified by giving the ball away in dangerous positions through trying to be better than he is. It's typical of a route Imrie is going down with the team at the moment, and it has me worried. 

[TONofmemories]

2 minutes ago, SpoonTon said:

The guys I could see shouting at MacPherson yesterday didn't seem like the type who would be sensitive to the kind of thing he shared. Ali Crawford got similar criticism pretty much as soon as he joined us the first time, and I don't remember anything controversial there. I tend to think that fans are actually most sensitive to new players is when they know weren't at all rated at their last club, because they were reluctant to see them sign and then they see everything they've been warned about (Crawford and MacPherson cane with similar reputations from St Johnstone). As with Crawford, players can turn things around with performances. 

From my own perspective, I'm frustrated by the type of mistakes he's made in the last two weeks. He's the epitome of the type of football I don't think we should be playing right now, typified by giving the ball away in dangerous positions through trying to be better than he is. It's typical of a route Imrie is going down with the team at the moment, and it has me worried. 

Funny, the guys I seen lambasting him from the off are EXACTLY the type that hold a weird grudge for something retweeted on social media. I'm not disputing the fact he was gash yesterday but there's an agenda against him by these folk either Intentionally or subconsciously. The same strange, offended agenda that's currently played out all over in this fucked up world.

[SpoonTon]

5 minutes ago, TONofmemories said:

Funny, the guys I seen lambasting him from the off are EXACTLY the type that hold a weird grudge for something retweeted on social media. I'm not disputing the fact he was gash yesterday but there's an agenda against him by these folk either Intentionally or subconsciously. The same strange, offended agenda that's currently played out all over in this fucked up world.

He was every bit as bad at Ayr last week as well. Imrie certainly did him no favours taking him up the way he did. The last couple of weeks have been the worse two performances of the season, and he's been at the centre of it. Maybe he's just a bit rusty, maybe Imrie is using him wrong, but something needs to change. 

I'm not sure exactly what agendas are being played out here. 

[TONofmemories]

7 minutes ago, SpoonTon said:

He was every bit as bad at Ayr last week as well. Imrie certainly did him no favours taking him up the way he did. The last couple of weeks have been the worse two performances of the season, and he's been at the centre of it. Maybe he's just a bit rusty, maybe Imrie is using him wrong, but something needs to change. 

I'm not sure exactly what agendas are being played out here. 

Ignorance is bliss I suppose. If he's shite, he's shite, but there's folk actively waiting for the first bad pass from him and that comes from a place of having some weird agenda against A. His retweet and B. Signing him after that.

We've had worse play for us who are culpable of genuine, physical actions. 

Weirdos

[HamCam]

Yesterday was depressing and the first half up there as one of the worst 45 minutes I have ever witnessed. It is a struggle to see light at the end of the tunnel. While the players failed on the park, Imrie has rightly taken the blame for the starting eleven. There is however no acknowledgement our 'modern' style of football is not working and we are getting bullied all over the park. Sadly we are stuck with this squad for the foreseeable and unless there is a miraculous turn around we face a relegation battle. The fans were not shy in their reaction and it is not unreasonable to expect some to find other ways to spend their afternoons than following Morton. Once again at a ridiculously early time in the season we are at a crossroads. I just hope Imrie has a plan.

[SpoonTon]

19 minutes ago, TONofmemories said:

Ignorance is bliss I suppose. If he's shite, he's shite, but there's folk actively waiting for the first bad pass from him and that comes from a place of having some weird agenda against A. His retweet and B. Signing him after that.

We've had worse play for us who are culpable of genuine, physical actions. 

Weirdos

As you say, it's certainly wise to be wary of individuals who have convictions for things like stalking, assault, etc. 

[TONofmemories]

5 minutes ago, SpoonTon said:

As you say, it's certainly wise to be wary of individuals who have convictions for things like stalking, assault, etc. 

That's the irony of it all. 

[dunning1874]

I'll absolutely not deny that I don't like MacPherson as a person because of his previous, but I'm also capable of separating my views on a footballer as a person from my views on them as a footballer, rather than deciding they must be shite if the evidence suggests otherwise. People who thought we shouldn't sign Alan Lithgow and were (correctly) saying in December 2021 that he'd been dreadful for us weren't still saying he was dreadful by March 2022, because even if they didn't like him as a person his performances had obviously improved and no one could deny that he was playing well, even if they still didn't like the idea of employing him. It would be understating it to say I think Jai Quitongo is an unpleasant person but I could still acknowledge when he was good and having a positive impact as a Morton player. They're two separate issues.

MacPherson made a positive contribution coming off the bench on his debut at Queen's Park, where his willingness to slow things down and take an extra touch in the hope of buying space did help us with getting up the park more in a game where both Wilson and Blues had been far too frantic under pressure and were routinely firing it back at the centre backs on their first touch, which MacPherson didn't do. In a sign of things to come he did also create Queen's Park's best chance of that game with two horrible mistakes in the space of 10 seconds, but as they failed to take it you can't dispute that overall he had a positive impact on our performance in that game, and no one did. We clearly got better with him and Garrity on the park that day and so there were calls for them both to start.

At Arbroath again there was no substantial criticism of him - it was a game that largely passed him by, he wasn't the only midfielder that was the case for and it was neither a good or bad performance really, which is why he got no stick.

He's taken a massive amount of criticism in all three games he's played since because he's been abysmal to the point of being the worst player on the park in all three of them. Against a Ross County team who looked toothless otherwise he gave them their goal by lunging in to concede a stonewall penalty when there was no need to go off his feet. That cost us two points as much as any incorrect refereeing decision did that day and that's bad enough in isolation, but then in the 25 minutes between giving the penalty away and going off injured he gave the ball away in our own half four times, twice by telegraphing a switch which was intercepted about 10 yards short of the full back he was aiming for. It wasn't a coincidence that the considerable second half improvement that day came with MacPherson off the park, because he'd been Ross County's best player.

Ayr was more of the same, giving the ball away in our own half routinely, with the far too short telegraphed switch 30 yards from our own goal once again rearing its head. Luckily it was on the edge of the box rather than inside it but he blundered into a needless foul in a dangerous position once again. Both goals were a farce from the whole team defensively so pinning either on one player alone would be totally unfair, but his attempt at closing the goalscorer down for their first was terrible. It was a day where none of the starting central midfielders played well, but when the quadruple sub was made early in the second half that saw both Blues and Wilson taken off, MacPherson hadn't found a teammate with a pass yet in that half. He was the poorest of the three yet got 90 minutes and Imrie praised his performance as Premier League quality afterwards. When any player is getting protection and held to a far lower standard than the rest of the team by a manager like that it always makes them a target for fans.

I don't need to recount what he did yesterday but anyone suggesting that he wasn't one of the worst two players on the park is at it, with Corr the only contender for being worse. He once again got 90 minutes with the other two central midfielders who hadn't been half as bad being taken off at half-time. It was a ridiculous performance, worse than anything Niall McGinn or Kirk Broadfoot ever offered in a Morton shirt; two players who took no end of abuse themselves without that stick being due to non-footballing reasons, because with them as with MacPherson the abuse was about being a shite footballer who was costing us points.

Disliking him for other reasons might lead to people mixing those non-footballing reasons in with the stick they give him and anyone objecting to that is fair enough, but the reason the criticism is happening in the first place is that he's been Dylan Dykes levels of hopeless and is getting progressively worse with every game while Imrie has a blindspot for him.

[BishopBrennan]

3 hours ago, LargsTON said:

You're spot on.  No doubt some fucking woke lefties who pose a far bigger threat to society today than the supposed far right.

[LargsTON]

2 minutes ago, BishopBrennan said:

So predictable 

[TONofmemories]

59 minutes ago, dunning1874 said:

I'll absolutely not deny that I don't like MacPherson as a person because of his previous, but I'm also capable of separating my views on a footballer as a person from my views on them as a footballer, rather than deciding they must be shite if the evidence suggests otherwise. People who thought we shouldn't sign Alan Lithgow and were (correctly) saying in December 2021 that he'd been dreadful for us weren't still saying he was dreadful by March 2022, because even if they didn't like him as a person his performances had obviously improved and no one could deny that he was playing well, even if they still didn't like the idea of employing him. It would be understating it to say I think Jai Quitongo is an unpleasant person but I could still acknowledge when he was good and having a positive impact as a Morton player. They're two separate issues.

MacPherson made a positive contribution coming off the bench on his debut at Queen's Park, where his willingness to slow things down and take an extra touch in the hope of buying space did help us with getting up the park more in a game where both Wilson and Blues had been far too frantic under pressure and were routinely firing it back at the centre backs on their first touch, which MacPherson didn't do. In a sign of things to come he did also create Queen's Park's best chance of that game with two horrible mistakes in the space of 10 seconds, but as they failed to take it you can't dispute that overall he had a positive impact on our performance in that game, and no one did. We clearly got better with him and Garrity on the park that day and so there were calls for them both to start.

At Arbroath again there was no substantial criticism of him - it was a game that largely passed him by, he wasn't the only midfielder that was the case for and it was neither a good or bad performance really, which is why he got no stick.

He's taken a massive amount of criticism in all three games he's played since because he's been abysmal to the point of being the worst player on the park in all three of them. Against a Ross County team who looked toothless otherwise he gave them their goal by lunging in to concede a stonewall penalty when there was no need to go off his feet. That cost us two points as much as any incorrect refereeing decision did that day and that's bad enough in isolation, but then in the 25 minutes between giving the penalty away and going off injured he gave the ball away in our own half four times, twice by telegraphing a switch which was intercepted about 10 yards short of the full back he was aiming for. It wasn't a coincidence that the considerable second half improvement that day came with MacPherson off the park, because he'd been Ross County's best player.

Ayr was more of the same, giving the ball away in our own half routinely, with the far too short telegraphed switch 30 yards from our own goal once again rearing its head. Luckily it was on the edge of the box rather than inside it but he blundered into a needless foul in a dangerous position once again. Both goals were a farce from the whole team defensively so pinning either on one player alone would be totally unfair, but his attempt at closing the goalscorer down for their first was terrible. It was a day where none of the starting central midfielders played well, but when the quadruple sub was made early in the second half that saw both Blues and Wilson taken off, MacPherson hadn't found a teammate with a pass yet in that half. He was the poorest of the three yet got 90 minutes and Imrie praised his performance as Premier League quality afterwards. When any player is getting protection and held to a far lower standard than the rest of the team by a manager like that it always makes them a target for fans.

I don't need to recount what he did yesterday but anyone suggesting that he wasn't one of the worst two players on the park is at it, with Corr the only contender for being worse. He once again got 90 minutes with the other two central midfielders who hadn't been half as bad being taken off at half-time. It was a ridiculous performance, worse than anything Niall McGinn or Kirk Broadfoot ever offered in a Morton shirt; two players who took no end of abuse themselves without that stick being due to non-footballing reasons, because with them as with MacPherson the abuse was about being a shite footballer who was costing us points.

Disliking him for other reasons might lead to people mixing those non-footballing reasons in with the stick they give him and anyone objecting to that is fair enough, but the reason the criticism is happening in the first place is that he's been Dylan Dykes levels of hopeless and is getting progressively worse with every game while Imrie has a blindspot for him.

Woke nonsense. 

[LargsTON]

2 minutes ago, TONofmemories said:

Woke nonsense. 

There's an element of our fanbase that sum up everything I hate about the UK right now.  Better suited to following Celtic, their kind are of a similar ilk.  

[RealTonKid]

Yesterday was the first time under Dougie I decided to leave a game early. If he persists with the baffling team selections and stubborn approach, then fans’ opinions will soon turn.

[dunning1874]

There are definitely people in this thread letting their off-field opinion on MacPherson affect their judgement of him as a footballer, with their minds made up that they can only come to one conclusion on his footballing ability because of their views on what he did.

It's not the people criticising his performances.

[GiGi]

7 hours ago, LargsTON said:

There's an element of our fanbase that sum up everything I hate about the UK right now.  Better suited to following Celtic, their kind are of a similar ilk.  

What element? I can honestly say I've never thought of Morton or any part of it as being suited to Celtic. 

No political banners, protests or general consensus on anything I can think of. We have an extremely diverse set of beliefs and agendas among the support in my experience. 

[GiGi]

I will also admit MacPherson was always going to be hard for me to like posting that nonsense about the refugee kid. But if he's genuinely remorseful about it then he deserves a chance to get his head down and make a go of his career. 

Unfortunately he's been error-prone and disruptive to the kind of football we play and negatively impacting footballing results. I care more about that than which players are right or left leaning.