Maryhill v Morton - Match Thread

[GiGi]

6 minutes ago, DumfriesTon said:

Very impressed with Kris Moore again. Aggressive, quick and reads the game well. 

Agree with this. I think he looks like a great find similar to getting Storer on loan. 

Already looks the part and he'll get better with proper exposure to competitive football. 

[gmfc_craig]

Absolutely robbed of 3 points today. I thought our claim for a pen would have been on the soft side but after seeing them awarded a pen then ours should have been an absolute stonewaller. Ali Crawford and big Shug never stopped running today and Moore looks a really composed player. Big Tomi needs to be sharper and on his toes more. Game died of death after an hour but I thought Partick were very very poor.

Edited August 9 by gmfc_craig

[tondaft1874]

Good point on the road but absolutely robbed of all 3 that penalty decision is absolutely horrendous. Longridge has slid in a bit awkwardly but clearly got the ball which headed in the direction of the corner flag. 

Kris Moore really good again looks like a brilliant find. Delaney, Wilson and Crawford also really good. Think the criticism of Adeloye is a bit over the top didn't win much in the air but did work hard for the most part. Early days will turn good for him and Brophy up top.

[Chicken_Soup]

26 minutes ago, vikingTON said:

It wasn't one. 

Mostly encouraging performance, the degree of threat posed (especially first half) was night and day compared to last week. The turning point for me was not the penalty but rather the two attempts off the woodwork - if we had gone 0-2 up, things could have easily unravelled for them off the back of last week's shocker too.

Crawford showed real quality today though both Wilson and Ballantyne (improved later) were off it by their own standard of consistency. Getting a draw under those conditions is fine. We still need an upgrade in defence though. 

That system is worth running with and greater cohesion/intuitive link ups will come to some degree with game time. It gets more of our best players on the park, with genuinely different options off the bench too if the front two are tiring.  

Are you seven years old?

If not for a baffling penalty decision, that would’ve been our 4th clean sheet in 5 games, with the only team to score past us being premiership Motherwell. We haven’t conceded a legitimate goal against either of our championship opponents playing with this keeper, defence and defensive midfielder. 
 

Anyway, I thought we looked better today and would’ve won if not for the ridiculous penalty given against us. Without getting into the other crazy refereeing decisions and other penalty claims, the two obvious decisions were to have given ours for the push on Adeloye and not given theirs. That would’ve meant three points. Liking the look of Taylor so far, his cross in for Delaney’s headed chance was a beauty. 
 

 

 

[CM48]

Feels like today evens out last week a bit, where we did well to get a point against Dunfermline in the end.

Still tough to take though as the only shot they had on target was the penalty.

He’s looked a little off it last couple of weeks, especially with his distribution, but having Wilson on the pitch still makes us a much better team.

Hopefully Partick continue to be mince, can’t believe that team won all their League Cup games!

[AyrshireTon]

4 hours ago, Drew Busby's Moustache said:

Anyone else experiencing a delay in threads 'loading' on this site?

Never been the same since the hacking incident a few weeks ago.

Yes - absolutely brutal of late. Often fails to load completely.

Anyway, thought we were the better side in the first half and deserved to be ahead at the break, despite the scares at the other end. Felt we sat deeper in the second half and the defence struggled with Letsosa's pace, although the penalty was a ludicrous decision. 

Referee was honking.

[HamCam]

Much the same as last week. A promising first half followed by a flat second half. We deserved to be ahead at half time. After the break PT changed things up and the sub certainly gave them a lift albeit the referee had an even more positive impact for them. I never saw the penalty claim for us but I am always a bit concerned as big Ade does tend to hit the ground a bit too easily. On the other hand the penalty awarded against us looked like a complete clownshow from the referee. I was convinced their lad knew there was no contact and was heading over to put the ball down for a corner. Overall not a bad result but given how poor PT were it really should have been an away win.

[vikingTON]

2 minutes ago, Chicken_Soup said:

If not for a baffling penalty decision, that would’ve been our 4th clean sheet in 5 games, with the only team to score past us being premiership Motherwell. We haven’t conceded a legitimate goal against either of our championship opponents playing with this keeper, defence and defensive midfielder. 

You've conveniently airbrushed the Peterhead game out for no valid reason, and your 'legitimate goal' claim is laughable. The defensive line is quite clearly in need of greater coherence and an upgrade in quality. They did pretty well today against Chalmers and Watt, but were exposed to other threats instead. 

[Chicken_Soup]

57 minutes ago, vikingTON said:

You've conveniently airbrushed the Peterhead game out for no valid reason, and your 'legitimate goal' claim is laughable. The defensive line is quite clearly in need of greater coherence and an upgrade in quality. They did pretty well today against Chalmers and Watt, but were exposed to other threats instead. 

There is a valid reason - the required upgrade has already come in to the team since that game in the form of Storer for Murdoch, who was at fault for the goals. It might be “quite clear” to you that the current defensive unit isn’t good enough but the stats don’t back that up.

The goal today was the fault of one person, and he wasn’t wearing a Morton kit. 

Having said that, if a player of exceptional quality becomes available we should consider them, whatever their position. There’s just no evidence we need to prioritise a defender.

[vikingTON]

40 minutes ago, Chicken_Soup said:

There is a valid reason - the required upgrade has already come in to the team since that game in the form of Storer for Murdoch, who was at fault for the goals. It might be “quite clear” to you that the current defensive unit isn’t good enough but the stats don’t back that up.

The goal today was the fault of one person, and he wasn’t wearing a Morton kit. 

Having said that, if a player of exceptional quality becomes available we should consider them, whatever their position. There’s just no evidence we need to prioritise a defender.

As opposed to your highlights based hot take, I was at the Peterhead game and while we clearly deserved to win overall, Peterhead were able to run at our defence on a fairly regular basis and put some balls into the box, particularly in the first half. That goalkeeping errors contributed to the two goals scored does not actually mean the rest of the defence was watertight otherwise - other goalscoring opportunities also occurred but were not taken. While we still clearly deserved to win, the scoreline was a mostly fair reflection of the game - mebbe 1-3 would have been better. 

Meanwhile, back in the real world, the penalty Partick got came as a direct consequence of their attacking sub causing repeated disarray in our defence after half time, which we failed to adjust to until the hour mark. It also came after they hit the post in the first half (quite possibly thanks to an excellent tip from Storer) and couldn't convert the rebound. The actual defending in the build up to the penalty is also being glossed over - a failure (by Wilson) to fully stem a counter attack as we take for granted now, and possibly a (more blameworthy) failure to then track the forward into the box. Longridge should not have been required to tackle on the wrong side of the forward, regardless of the referee's call. 

It's patently obvious that our defensive line is more vulnerable than last season, chiefly through the absence of Baird. The Motherwell and Peterhead games do actually count towards that judgment. A fairer reflection of the first half today would have been 2-1 Morton, so quite why anyone is clutching their pearls over a lost clean sheet for our catenaccio defence is bizarre. The positive is that we were far, far more effective going forward today and that's not a bad change at all on last week's more fortuitous route to getting a point. 

[Chicken_Soup]

1 hour ago, vikingTON said:

As opposed to your highlights based hot take, I was at the Peterhead game and while we clearly deserved to win overall, Peterhead were able to run at our defence on a fairly regular basis and put some balls into the box, particularly in the first half. That goalkeeping errors contributed to the two goals scored does not actually mean the rest of the defence was watertight otherwise - other goalscoring opportunities also occurred but were not taken. While we still clearly deserved to win, the scoreline was a mostly fair reflection of the game - mebbe 1-3 would have been better. 

Meanwhile, back in the real world, the penalty Partick got came as a direct consequence of their attacking sub causing repeated disarray in our defence after half time, which we failed to adjust to until the hour mark. It also came after they hit the post in the first half (quite possibly thanks to an excellent tip from Storer) and couldn't convert the rebound. The actual defending in the build up to the penalty is also being glossed over - a failure (by Wilson) to fully stem a counter attack as we take for granted now, and possibly a (more blameworthy) failure to then track the forward into the box. Longridge should not have been required to tackle on the wrong side of the forward, regardless of the referee's call. 

It's patently obvious that our defensive line is more vulnerable than last season, chiefly through the absence of Baird. The Motherwell and Peterhead games do actually count towards that judgment. A fairer reflection of the first half today would have been 2-1 Morton, so quite why anyone is clutching their pearls over a lost clean sheet for our catenaccio defence is bizarre. The positive is that we were far, far more effective going forward today and that's not a bad change at all on last week's more fortuitous route to getting a point. 

I think you have unrealistic expectations. If we’re keeping clean sheets, or our keeper is having a quiet day, then the defence is doing its job. If you expect us to go through games without the opposition gaining dangerous territory or having threatening moments, you’re going to be disappointed, regardless of who we sign. 
 

Good night to you sir.

[vikingTON]

22 minutes ago, Chicken_Soup said:

I think you have unrealistic expectations. If we’re keeping clean sheets, or our keeper is having a quiet day, then the defence is doing its job. If you expect us to go through games without the opposition gaining dangerous territory or having threatening moments, you’re going to be disappointed, regardless of who we sign. 
 

Good night to you sir.

You seem to have built yet another, rather large straw man there. At what point did I ever state that this was the required benchmark? Oh that's right: I didn't. 

The test of your entirely cherrypicked, 'ironclad' defence claim will come before this month is out. I'm hopeful that as a team we can now give Aberdeen a tricky game next week - I still expect us to receive at least a mini paddling at Saint Johnstone though. 

[RossMcC1874]

Never a penalty in a million years for their goal absolutely robbed.

Then Adeloye cleared pushed in the first half and ref ignores it inept performance from the officials but nothing unusual there.

Kris Moore again brilliant, Crawford and Wilson both really good. We are a decent side but just need to be a bit more clinical at times. 

Still feel a bit of quality out wide is a priority. 

[The Bewilderedbeast]

Just watched the highlights,  never a penalty. 

We're going to have go two goals ahead to have any chance of winning if the penalty decisions at either end of the pitch continue as they are.

[RossMcC1874]

When you look at the starting 11 and even the bench yesterday we now have good numbers and options to come off the bench with the likes of Gillespie and Shaw still missing. 

Another experienced championship centre half on the left would be good but maybe thats our signings done? Unless somebody goes out on loan or leaves to bring someone else in. 

[IanClinging]

I actually thought Wilson had one of his poorer games yesterday. While he kept running and his energy levels were good, he seemed to lose more than his fair share of 50/50s - one of which led to his booking  - and misplaced a good fee passes - one of which led to Partick counterattacking and hitting the post.

[HamCam]

Watching back the highlights it is clear as day the only penalty that should have been awarded was for the two handed shove on Ade's back. In any other profession there would be repercussions for failing to do the basics but as we all know the useless officials in Scotland simply get rewarded with more games. You hope things even out over a season but looking at the last two seasons no evidence of such balance.

[Cappiecat 1.2]

1 hour ago, HamCam said:

on Ade's back

Please don't ever do that again.

[standman]

Like last week we went through the second half without really looking like scoring, which is a concern.

 

[TRVMP]

6 hours ago, IanClinging said:

I actually thought Wilson had one of his poorer games yesterday. While he kept running and his energy levels were good, he seemed to lose more than his fair share of 50/50s - one of which led to his booking  - and misplaced a good fee passes - one of which led to Partick counterattacking and hitting the post.

Agreed, looked very leggy.